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RdPBi try using dmraid00:00
BluesKajkeith, it should be in the k-menu00:00
RdPBbut...00:00
BluesKajif it's motherboard then it's BIOS00:00
keithBluesKaj it is not showing up in the k-menu00:00
JohnFluxRdPB: in windows, did you have to do anything special to get it to work?00:01
BluesKajkeith, not in utililties00:01
JohnFluxRdPB: I'm trying to work out if it is software raid or hardware raid00:01
RdPBwhen i install windows i press f10 and pass the driver of the motherboard00:02
JohnFluxhmmm00:02
JohnFluxRdPB: what motherboard?00:02
RdPBMSI P965 platinum00:02
keithnope not in the utilities Blueskaj00:02
RdPBwith fedora 8 and suse 10.3 its plays00:02
JohnFluxRdPB: if I google for that, I bet I find it is fake raid :(00:02
BluesKajkeith , try launching from the Konsole00:02
keithI tried vmware and got a bash error that so no such command.00:03
urbmenjust incase I'm doing this wrong as for everything I have tried installing this eveing since installing Kubuntu has said it is missing some file or somthing have I missed anything out00:03
keithBluesKaj I am not certain that I have it installed correctly.00:03
BluesKajright keith , i suspect that may be the case00:03
JohnFluxRdPB: it doesn't show up in ubuntu though?00:03
keithCan you help me get it installed correctly then blueskaj00:04
RdPBno00:04
RdPBwhen i run dmraid activate the raid00:04
RdPBwhen i see with fdisk -l i see the disk and with raid and without00:04
RdPBand when i try to install then its see many partions that are mapped00:05
urbmenas at the moment I am trying to install that w32 thing and it is saying libstdc++5 is missing so it can not install tat, so I get it, its an rpm file I type rpm -ivh (the file name) thats then needs a load of files00:05
JohnFluxRdPB: do you have a /dev/md0  ?00:05
WaltzingAlongurbmen: sudo aptitude install w32codecs ?00:05
rayluurbmen, are you still trying to install winamp?00:05
BluesKajkeith , it's been a while and I had help to install it too, but found it rather frustrating to use , so i removed it ..I won't be much help I'm afraid00:05
sn00zerhowdy all, i'm having aptitude issues, i typically use apt-get but when i go into aptitude it wants to remove alot of packages because they are unused, but they aren't unused, amarok shows up on the list and its open at the time00:06
BluesKaj!VMWare00:06
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers00:06
RdPBJohnFlux: i see /dev/sda00:06
raylusn00zer, what operation do you want apt to actually do?00:07
WaltzingAlongsn00zer: if you have not been using aptitude all of the time then it does not know which items you installed elsewhere; it keeps track of that; sudo aptitude then find (main) ones it wants to remove, instruct aptitude to keep (add/install) it00:07
JohnFluxRdPB: is that sda  the raid system?  or just one of the hard disks?00:07
WaltzingAlongurbmen: add the medibuntu repositories then sudo aptitude update and then sudo aptitude install w32codecs00:07
JohnFluxRdPB: do you have a    /dev/sda1 ?00:08
sn00zeri'm not trying to do anything in particular right now, but a few days ago i noticed it and want to fix it00:08
keithBluesKaj I am just trying to run XP so that I can use Quicken and Quickbooks, but virtualbox doesn't want to work well with screen resolutions.00:08
WaltzingAlongsn00zer: and my comments let you know how00:08
RdPBJohnFlux:  can i post you to see it?00:08
JohnFluxRdPB: okay00:08
WaltzingAlong!wine | keith00:08
ubotukeith: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.00:08
raylukeith, i think those will work with wine00:09
rayluwhat he said =\00:09
keithWine does not work well with bank downloads.00:09
raylubank downloads = ?00:09
keithWine does not work well at all.00:09
JohnFluxRdPB: do:  ls /dev/sd*    and post me the results of that00:09
urbmenI was about to give up then and go to bed as my brain feels like mush, but that seems to be working thank you00:09
rayluwine works for WoW; i'd be surprised if it couldn't handle a banking operation00:09
ardchoilleurbmen: Give up? Welcome to the addiction :)00:10
sn00zerthanks waltzingalong00:10
BluesKajwill Open Office handle Quicken and Quickbook files and apps00:10
WaltzingAlongah what?00:10
raylui don't think so00:10
JohnFluxRdPB: are you trying to /msg  me?00:10
WaltzingAlong!info kmymoney2 | keith00:11
ubotukeith: kmymoney2: personal finance manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.7-2 (gutsy), package size 7078 kB, installed size 14424 kB00:11
urbmenlol, I've always wanted to learn Linux00:11
WaltzingAlong!info gnucash | keith00:11
ubotukeith: gnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.1-1ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 1746 kB, installed size 5360 kB00:11
RdPByes00:11
RdPBJohnFlux: yes00:11
JohnFluxRdPB: you aren't idenitified00:11
JohnFluxyou can't message anyone00:11
WaltzingAlongurbmen: using kubuntu you never *need* to learn Linux00:11
urbmenwhys that then00:11
keithThanks WaltzingAlong but they both suck as far as keeping track of tax situations.00:11
JohnFluxRdPB: join #johnflux  :)00:11
WaltzingAlongkeith: then may i interest you in seamless rdp with your virtual machine00:12
keithWhat is seamless rdp?00:12
WaltzingAlongurbmen: just because to use a system one not need to know how the pieces of it work00:13
keithWaltzingAlong I can't get a virtual machine running properly that is the problem.00:13
urbmenI dont have to reboot or anything do I for it to work00:13
WaltzingAlongkeith: because of not getting virtualbox into fullscreen?00:13
WaltzingAlongkeith: http://www.cendio.com/seamlessrdp/00:14
i00nsuwell i cant edit startmenu... i cant start bootup manager, I cant open configuration manager, .... what is happening? the programs do not start... :/00:14
keithI have been unable to virtualbox into seamless windows mode to get a decent screen size.00:14
urbmenI want to learn it thought so I can support it00:14
WaltzingAlongkeith: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36364900:15
raylui00nsu, can you run a konsole?00:15
i00nsuyes00:15
MinatakuOne should learn Linux, IMO00:15
MinatakuIf you're going to use something, you should at least learn a little about it00:15
raylui00nsu, run whatever's not working from the konsole, then.00:15
rayluand what are "startmenu," "bootup manager," and "configuration manager?"00:16
i00nsuor... no ... i have closed the other and now the kansole is not working too00:16
i00nsuthats wierd00:16
i00nsuyes00:16
i00nsuin the configuration manager00:16
raylukcontrol?00:17
keithWaltzingalong will this get seamless windows to work in virtualbox?00:17
BluesKajok,you SVN Experts : I think I've got kde4 65% installed (using SVN) , I'm at the ~/kde/build/KDE/kdebase$ prompt , but the previous line looks like an error , but I'm not sure what it means :[ 65%] Built target krandrtray/ make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/kaj/kde/build/KDE/kdebase'/make: *** [all] Error 2.00:18
i00nsunothing raylu00:18
stdinBluesKaj: it means something failed to compile somewhere earlier on00:18
* WaltzingAlong has not used virtualbox (just vmware server); keith perhaps check too in #virtualbox00:19
keithWalzingAlong Virtualbox is the closed I have come to getting XP on my box, but I can't get the seamless stuff to work00:19
keithWaltzingAlong I have tried to install vmware server but have botched it.  I can't seem to get it running.00:19
i00nsuif i do here /exec konsole or sudo sometiog says [DCOP] Error00:19
WaltzingAlongkeith: on gutsy?00:20
keithyes WaltzingAlong on gutsy00:20
BluesKajstdin, i remember something about xine-video-widget, but i couldn't find it in the pkg managers00:20
raylui00nsu, i had that issue earlier too; I rebooted00:20
i00nsucan't find script 'sudo' or 'konsole'00:20
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i00nsuok, lets see :P00:21
stdinBluesKaj: try running make again, it should skip right to the error and repost it00:21
urbmenI'm still getting - No suitable demux plugin, do I have to restart my machine or anything?00:22
BluesKajstdin, make or cmake00:22
BluesKaj?00:22
stdinBluesKaj: make00:22
BluesKajok00:23
rayluurbmen, no00:23
rayluurbmen, what are you trying to do anyway?00:23
urbmenstream internet radio00:23
FroggyTheGreatOo, newly graded to Gutsy00:23
FroggyTheGreatCould someone please remind me where I can find the updated drivers for an Intel 845 graphics card?00:24
stdinjust use the "intel" driver00:25
urbmenon a different note, what does this command line mean? sudo aptitude install00:25
FroggyTheGreatSpecifically, I've got a 1680x1050 LCD monitor and the upgrade to Gutsy lost the config.00:25
stdinurbmen: aptitude is like apt-get00:26
stdin!aptitude00:26
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide00:26
FroggyTheGreat!drivers00:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:26
urbmenoright kool00:26
* FroggyTheGreat sighs00:26
BluesKaj!intel00:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:28
urbmenYYYYYYYYYYYYYYeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssss00:28
BluesKaj!intel graphics00:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel graphics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:28
Tm_Turbmen: erm00:28
urbmenI'd for got to install the libxine1-ffmpeg00:28
urbmenits working00:29
urbmenthank you for your help00:29
stdinFroggyTheGreat: try the 915resolution tool00:31
BluesKajstdin, make[1]: *** [workspace/kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kcm_keyboard_layout.dir/all] Error 2. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/kaj/kde/build/KDE/kdebase' make: *** [all] Error 200:31
stdinBluesKaj: anything before that?00:31
stdintry "make &>makelog.log"  then post the file to pastebin00:32
BluesKajstdin, home/kaj/kde/src/KDE/kdebase/workspace/kcontrol/kxkb/x11helper.cpp:37:37: error: X11/extensions/XKBrules.h: No such file or directory.make[2]: *** [workspace/kcontrol/kxkb/CMakeFiles/kcm_keyboard_layout.dir/x11helper.o] Error 100:33
stdinahh00:33
yanhi! problem : kubuntu (gutsy) +inspiron 9400 + wifi 3945. all work on windows... in linux, nothing work and the green led stay close even if i do fn+f2. thanx00:34
FroggyTheGreatstdin - what is the 915 resolution tool?00:34
stdinBluesKaj: that seem to be in the libxkbfile-dev package, try installing it00:34
yanlspci | grep -i network correctly identify the card00:35
BluesKajright on stdin , thx ..will do that00:35
stdinFroggyTheGreat: it lets you set the native resolution for your GPU00:35
FroggyTheGreatI mean, where does one find it?00:35
FroggyTheGreatOr launch it?00:35
stdinFroggyTheGreat: you need to edit /etc/default/915resolution to have the settings you want, then it starts at boot00:36
stdinFroggyTheGreat: or you can start it manually with "sudo /etc/init.d/915resolution restart"00:37
FroggyTheGreatLet's try that then00:37
FroggyTheGreatOk, not installed.  Lovely.00:38
FroggyTheGreatknow offhand the apt-get package name?00:38
stdin"915resolution" ;)00:38
FroggyTheGreatwooga00:38
yani don't want to spam but anyone read my problem?00:38
stdinyan: if you have gutsy, setup a wired connection then go to system settings > advanced > restricted drivers00:39
WaltzingAlongyan: and you need a module that correctly interfaces with it00:39
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yan"need to install the  package linux-restricted-modules for this to work"00:41
yani uninstalled it cuz i have to install nvidia driver and they say to do that..00:41
stdinyou should use the packaged driver too00:42
stdinand you are going to need the restricted packages to get the wireless working00:42
stdin(i'm thinking it's a broadcom)00:42
yanwill installing that package will disturb my nvidia driver installed with envy?00:42
stdineww, envy, BAD00:43
WaltzingAlong!envy | yan00:43
ubotuyan: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »00:43
stdinjust use the restricted manager an prey envy hasn't broken anything00:43
yanwell.. it solved a lot of problem00:43
WaltzingAlongpray*00:44
stdinheh, thanks WaltzingAlong00:44
WaltzingAlongusually it steals from peter to pay paul00:44
i00nsu__something strange here... i edit last boot rc.local with this line> sh /home/user/scripts/mount.user and the boot up stoped... now i am on live cd mode, started qtparted and i have two swap partitions... ":> what was wrong with the rc.local comand, and can i delete one of the swap partiions >?00:44
WaltzingAlonglooks like something works, it does even, but several other things are broken that show up later00:44
ubuntu__i love kde xD00:44
yanso i need to reinstall kubuntu ?00:45
WaltzingAlongi00nsu__: maybe you wanted & at the end of that?00:45
BluesKajstdin, ok , make looks like it finished with no errors , but should I run cmake again since it finished at 65% during the previous step ?00:45
FroggyTheGreatOookay, 915reesolution is not finding 1680x1050, which is my LCD's intended resolution.00:45
WaltzingAlongyan: perhaps not.00:45
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stdinBluesKaj: cmake is like the running "./configure" you should only need to run it once. but running it again will do no harm00:46
yani should install restricted driver with apt-get or aptitude?00:46
WaltzingAlongyan: either or00:46
WaltzingAlongyan: but you can use the restricted manager to do it for you00:47
BluesKajstdin, /usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_progress_report /home/kaj/kde/build/KDE/kdebase/CMakeFiles  10000:47
BluesKaj[100%] Built target krootimage00:47
DreadKnighttest00:47
stdinDreadKnight: faild00:47
FroggyTheGreatSo 915resolution isn't finding the right resolution mode - it's not on the list.  Any ideas?00:48
DreadKnightomg >_<00:48
i00nsu__well... so kubuntu can run with two swap partions... and is nothing wrong with that? ok... and the end of rc.local file have this line> exit:0 ... this should be the probl?00:48
stdinBluesKaj: ok, seems it's all good then :)00:48
DreadKnightis there a desktop recording software using qt ... something similar to recordmydesktop_gtk ?00:49
BluesKajstdin, coolness :) thx00:49
WaltzingAlongi00nsu__: perhaps take a look at one of the other rc scripts to get a feel for what they contain00:49
WaltzingAlong!find recordmydesktop00:49
ubotuFound: gtk-recordmydesktop, krecordmydesktop, recordmydesktop00:49
WaltzingAlongnot as nifty but yes00:49
WaltzingAlong!info krecordmydesktop DreadKnight00:49
ubotukrecordmydesktop: kde frontend to recordmydesktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1~alpha1+debian-1 (gutsy), package size 75 kB, installed size 300 kB00:49
DreadKnightWaltzingAlong: thanks :)00:49
yanok restricted driver r install00:50
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yanmy card is checked and status : in use00:50
stdin!away > Aresilek|Away00:50
WaltzingAlongDreadKnight: through launching it from konsole with 'recordmydesktop' is not so tough (and the krecordmydesktop seems to be missing lots of the options)00:50
yani still dont see the green led and kwifimanager dont detect it00:50
WaltzingAlongyan: and now in konsole any wifi extensions with   iwconfig  ?00:51
yansame00:51
yannothign found00:51
yando i have to reboot?00:51
DreadKnight:)00:51
DreadKnightkinda bad most application start or use "K" xD00:52
DreadKnight~s00:52
yanok im rebooting00:52
WaltzingAlongok yan you know where to find us00:53
i00nsu__something very very wrong here... none of the drives here is qtparted is the old drive instalation, so i cannot redit rc.local to delete the line...00:55
WaltzingAlongi00nsu__: booted from the livecd? then you may wish to mount your local hd00:56
i00nsu__yes00:56
i00nsu__hm00:56
i00nsu__i have mounted all partiotion and none of them is the real00:57
WaltzingAlongi00nsu__: otherwise in the 'livecd' the hd that appears there is not your computer's hd00:57
i00nsu__thats right00:57
i00nsu__so _00:57
yanback00:57
yanthe reboot helped00:57
yanled is flashing00:57
yaniwconfig detect00:57
yannow i have to set wpa.. going to google for it.. thanks again guys00:58
WaltzingAlonggreat glad you got it going yan00:58
yani just hope nothing break cuz of envy00:59
yani need official nvidia driver, else i could not do dual screen...00:59
WaltzingAlongi00nsu__: so figure out which device that should be. qtparted should show it. then which partition, mount it        sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/otherdrive -o defaults,rw       something like that00:59
yanand the normal instal break xserver00:59
yanonly envy worked..00:59
WaltzingAlongyan, ok. or manual; and now restricted manager takes care of it00:59
m_tadeuhi...does anyone knows if kaffeine supports .sub files?01:00
i00nsu__but WaltzingAlong if i try to startup normaly i can go sleep and to boot is stoped in  execution rc.local ..01:00
FroggyTheGreatOkay, 915resolution doesn't seem to find the right graphics mode I want - there aren't any widescreen modes listed.01:00
DreadKnightm_tadeu: yes it does :)01:01
WaltzingAlongi00nsu__: yeah sorry i do not know enough about manually editing scripts there. look at some of the existing ones, follow that pattern; in the livecd you could mount the partition on the hard drive inside your computer (i just sent that command). then you could edit the files as needed through /media/otherdrive/etc/ and so on01:01
FroggyTheGreatI've got the xserver-xorg-video-i810 and xserver-xorg-video-intel packages installed -would they be conflicting?01:02
i00nsu__the real is not here. WaltzingAlong it is not! sould i try mount /dev/ghost ?01:02
m_tadeuDreadKnight: well I'm trying to play an avi with a .sub that has the same name. it shows in the subtitles combo box, but no text on screen01:02
WaltzingAlongi00nsu__: that is a trick in itself01:03
FroggyTheGreatAnyone know which driver I need to be using for my Intel 845 graphics card?01:03
FroggyTheGreatThis worked before I upgraded to Gutsy, and I know it's a simple fix...01:03
WaltzingAlongFroggyTheGreat:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto  ?01:04
WaltzingAlongFroggyTheGreat: or restricted manager takes care of it?01:04
FroggyTheGreatRestricted manager is what?01:04
WaltzingAlongkmenu/system settings/advanced/restricted manager; ease the management of installing the restricted modules/drivers01:05
FroggyTheGreatthanks.01:06
FroggyTheGreatSays my hardware doesn't need restricted drivers.01:06
BluesKajoh well, I tried ..gonna take a break from the kde4 pursuit ..still on 3.58 so I dunno where to go from here, altho kde4 appeared to install , I see no evidence of it in the login01:07
FroggyTheGreatNevertheless, it's either I get 1600x1200 and it's squished to fit into 16680x1050, or I get 1680x1050, but with a moveable 1024x768 viewport.01:08
FroggyTheGreatDoes the fact that I have two xserver-xorg-video packages installed hurt me?01:09
MilitantPotatoFroggyTheGreat: resolution is rarely a video driver problem...01:09
FroggyTheGreatOk.01:09
MilitantPotatoatleast from what I've seen.01:09
FroggyTheGreatAny ideas, then?01:09
FroggyTheGreatI've done all the software and config-file things I know to do.01:09
WaltzingAlong!info xserver-xorg-video-intel | FroggyTheGreat01:09
ubotufroggythegreat: xserver-xorg-video-intel: X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 2:2.1.1-0ubuntu9 (gutsy), package size 173 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 lpia m68k mips mipsel netbsd-i386 powerpc)01:09
i00nsu__ok ... i think this is nonsense... i will reinstall kubuntu01:10
FroggyTheGreatOk, that's a lot of information, but it's gibberish.  I think.01:10
* BluesKaj wonders where KDE4 hides out after installation 01:10
WaltzingAlongBluesKaj:  /usr/lib/kde4 ?01:10
yanback, wifi wpa up and running...01:11
WaltzingAlongFroggyTheGreat: so in feisty and gutsy xserver-xorg-video-intel replaces i8xx and i9xx (you reported having 845)01:11
yani would like to thanks you guys for you're help01:11
FroggyTheGreatOk, so I uninstall i810 then.01:11
FroggyTheGreatright?01:12
BluesKajWaltzingAlong, nope :(01:12
MilitantPotatoFroggyTheGreat: install xserver-xorg-video-intel01:13
WaltzingAlongFroggyTheGreat: and no problem having more packages installed; could install xserver-xorg-video-all; pick which you want in         sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh           (intel)01:13
FroggyTheGreatxserver-xorg-video-all makes the others redundant then?01:14
WaltzingAlongjust a meta package to grab all of them01:15
MilitantPotatoit will check them all for you if I recall correctly.01:15
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MilitantPotato!offtopic > militantpotato01:16
FroggyTheGreatHunh.  I wonder why the system administration app won't let me change the video drivers through the gui.01:16
inaetyhow can i have the alt+f2 open to swiftfox instead of konqueror when i enter a web address?01:17
WaltzingAlonginaety: change default browser01:17
inaetyWaltzingAlong: under what?01:17
inaetyis there something in kcontrol01:17
rayluinaety, search for keyboard shortcuts in kcontrol01:18
MilitantPotatoFroggyTheGreat: you can edit your xorg.conf to load the intel drivers, or reconfigure xserver01:18
WaltzingAlonginaety: yes search default applications01:18
rayluoh, wait, you want default applications01:18
MilitantPotatoThe GUI bit doesn't work for me either.01:18
inaetyWaltzingAlong: ah i just found it.  that was too easy, sorry to waste your time01:18
WaltzingAlonginaety: ha ha ;)01:19
rayluwhy doesn't firefox's "check now" for default browser work in gutsy and01:19
rayluis 2.0.0.9 in backports?01:19
m_tadeuanyone? my kaffeine is not playing .sub files01:20
raylusub files are subtitles, aren't they?01:20
m_tadeuyup01:20
rayluoh, you mean read them?01:20
inaetym_tadeu: you right click in the video, go to subtitles, and choose them, i thought?01:20
WaltzingAlongare the 2.x.x.x firefox releases anything other than fixes for when on ms windows?01:21
m_tadeuI do...the subtitles are selected but don't apear on screen01:21
WaltzingAlongm_tadeu: not sure. in vlc i need to load subtitles by selecting from a menu01:21
FroggyTheGreatIT WORKED!01:21
FroggyTheGreatThank you, all who helped me.01:21
BluesKajWonder what's wrong: ssh -X kde-devel@localhost     ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused01:22
m_tadeuBluesKaj: I think you can't ssh to localhost....as far as I know01:23
m_tadeuBluesKaj: my mistake...you can :)01:23
BluesKajwell , the instructions : You can now run KDE 4 programs (e.g. kwrite) by typing: ssh -X kde-devel@localhost01:24
m_tadeudo you have openssh-server installed?01:25
FroggyTheGreatOo, here's an offhand semiflamebait question - Anyone succeeded in getting Amarok to administer a Zune?01:25
WaltzingAlongopenssh-server installed and allowusers set to allow kde-devel (or the new user you created)01:25
FroggyTheGreat...not bloody likely, I'm thinking.01:25
WaltzingAlongFroggyTheGreat: not sure. try a search or check in kde or amarok channels: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=370812001:26
ignoramusNeed help with permissions...01:26
WaltzingAlongFroggyTheGreat: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+question/1637301:26
raylu!permissions01:27
ubotuAn explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview01:27
WaltzingAlongignoramus: you _may_ ask your questions here :) those kinds of permissions?01:27
raylulol01:27
FroggyTheGreatWhoah, there's an answer for that.01:27
rayluo.001:27
WaltzingAlong!anything | FroggyTheGreat, almost anything ;D01:27
ubotuFroggyTheGreat, almost anything ;D: So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.01:27
ignoramusi copied a bunch of music from another computer to dvd, and transferred the files to a folder in dolphin... (more coming)01:27
FroggyTheGreatHeh01:27
FroggyTheGreatSo now the question is - do I have partition space I want to dump into a Win2K vmware?01:28
ignoramusa few didn't take (they are reading as "0kb"), so now when i try to overwrite them with a "good" version of the file, permission is denied01:28
WaltzingAlongignoramus: sudo chown ignoramus:ignoramus /home/ignoramus/ -R              should reset them                  or you could check the permissions of them01:28
ignoramusi can copy them to another foler, and *then* overwrite, but not from disc. what gives?01:28
ignoramuswaltzingalong: i'll try that... brb01:29
WaltzingAlongFroggyTheGreat: you could use a file to store the virtual hd used in vmware01:29
m_tadeuignoramus: since you copied from a cd/dvd permissions might be as read only01:29
BluesKajheh , kde-devel@localhost is asking for a password , it never asked me to create one :)01:30
FroggyTheGreatYeah, but it's more a matter of do I feel like bothering, or do I e-bay this Zune off for more than I paid for it?01:30
ignoramusm_tadeu: even though i enabled read/write permissions for all users with this particular folder?01:30
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: "sudo passwd kde-devel"01:31
staceyis there a good dvd copying program that anyone can reccomend?  one that backs up movie dvds and compresses them when necessary?01:31
m_tadeuignoramus: try checking the permissions of that specific file01:31
WaltzingAlong!info k9copy | stacey01:31
ubotustacey: k9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1409 kB, installed size 2748 kB01:31
raylustacey, that's not dvd copying...01:31
ignoramusm_tadeu: it seems to be all the files in my "Music" folder01:31
staceyright i'm looking for something thats similar to dvd xcopy in windows01:32
rayluignoramus, but what are the permissions?01:32
staceycompress and copy for dvd movies01:32
WaltzingAlongignoramus: m_tadeu: yes my reply was typed when you mentioned about dolphin and ... well liked mentioned, may be other issues than just kdesu issues01:32
ignoramusraylu: for the folder?01:32
WaltzingAlong!info k9copy | stacey, this is it01:32
ubotustacey, this is it: k9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1409 kB, installed size 2748 kB01:32
WaltzingAlong!backups | stacey01:32
ubotustacey: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning01:32
rayluignoramus, the permissions for whatever you're getting denied for01:32
staceyok great thanks!01:32
WaltzingAlong!dvd | stacey01:32
ubotustacey: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:32
rayluignoramus, ls -l filenamhere; paste that output here01:32
ignoramusraylu: hang on... copying a couple gigs into another folder- system is dragging01:33
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ignoramusraylu: if i run dolphin or konqueror as superuser, i can overwrite all files, but not if i just pop in a disc and try to overwrite the files in a folder01:34
BluesKajnosrednaekim, pls explain , never seen sudo and password in the same command01:34
rayluok...so what are the permissions ignoramus01:34
rayluBluesKaj, you're running the passwd command with su privilages01:34
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: "sudo passwd kde-devel" sets the password for kde-devel01:34
rayluthe passwd command takes an argument for username01:34
ignoramusraylu: will post... disc is almost done copying to different folder...01:35
m_tadeuignoramus: try "sudo chown +r *" in the folder01:35
m_tadeuignoramus: sorry "sudo chmod +r *"01:36
rayluit'd still help to know what it was before01:36
rayluif this is from a cd, his fstab might be messed uip01:37
raylu*up01:37
ignoramusm_tadeu: i have to "cd" to that folder in konsole, right?01:37
draikHow do I download a DEB from the repos?01:37
draikI want aptoncd.DEB01:37
rayluignoramus, yes, or chmod +r dir1/dir2/dir3/*01:37
WaltzingAlongdraik: aptitude download package01:37
nosrednaekimdraik: you can navigate the repositories..01:37
draikWaltzingAlong: Thank you01:37
draiknosrednaekim: How? Using what?01:37
raylua web browser01:38
nosrednaekimdraik: web browser/01:38
m_tadeuraylu: most probably, since files are RO in the dvd, they are copyed with those permissions01:38
ignoramusraylu: chmod: missing operand after `+r*'01:38
BluesKajnosrednaekim, afraid that's not working for me ..says kde-devel is an unknown user01:38
WaltzingAlongdraik: or browse to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ and so forth01:38
rayluignoramus, there's a space after the r01:38
ignoramusaha01:38
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: did you creat the kde-devel user?01:38
BluesKajwhen01:38
rayluBluesKaj, then it looks like that ssh login will never pass01:38
BluesKajit asked me for a pw before i had a chance to create one01:39
m_tadeuBluesKaj: didn't you create the user?01:39
rayluBluesKaj, sudo cat /etc/passwd | grep kde-devel01:40
ignoramusm_tadeu | raylu: the chmod +r *  doesn't help01:40
BluesKajit never asked for a user01:40
nosrednaekimBluesKaj:  ok :D run the command "sudo adduser kde-devel" you may also want to install the ssh server if you don't have in installed01:40
rayluignoramus, what did it do/say?01:40
staceyI installed a program (facturalux) but it isnt in the K menu....it wont start with katapult either.  Can anyone tell me how I would go about starting it?01:41
ignoramusraylu: it didn't say anything - just went to next command prompt01:42
m_tadeustacey: sometimes, running "kbuildsyscoca" helps01:42
FroggyTheGreatDoes anyone know of any problems using Amaroq with a Creative Labs Zen Touch(tm)?01:42
staceyrunning it how?....sorry...noobish still01:42
[ka]killeronly problem ive had with mp3 players is my zune =(01:42
m_tadeuignoramus: but, is it still denying the overwrite?01:42
ignoramusi'm wondering if you are supposed to be allowed to overwrite files on HDD from disc01:42
nosrednaekimFroggyTheGreat: from what i;ve heard, zens work well.01:43
flaccidanyone have azureus working with sun java on gutsy?01:43
FroggyTheGreatCool.01:43
ignoramusm_tadeu: yes01:43
rayluignoramus, the problem is when you copied them. you could modify the permissions on the HDD, but it'd be better to fix the disc01:43
ignoramusraylu: i know :/01:43
rayluignoramus; and the fact that it didn't say anything when you chmodded the directory means that there was nothing there, so you probably don't have r to the directory01:43
rayluand/or you didn't sudo the command01:44
m_tadeuignoramus: can you type this under the folder "ls -la | grep damn_filename"? and paste the result here?01:44
BluesKajbah! , kde-devel is 3.5.8 ,not 4.0 :(01:44
raylum_tadeu, you can actually ls a single file01:44
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: eh? did you compile/install kde4?01:45
m_tadeuraylu: :D you're right...bad habit01:45
ignoramus!pastebin01:45
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rayluBluesKaj, wtf? did you compile the wrong version of kde?01:45
[ka]killerim just waiting for the release of KDE401:45
[ka]killerbetas and me dont mix well >.>01:45
ignoramusm_tadeu: for some reason, it's telling me that file doesn't exist.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44674/01:46
BluesKajyeah nosrednaekim Iran the svn version install, but guess it din't install properly :( ...everything seemed ok after cmake and make ...had a few glitches that stdin helped me with bit it seemed fine01:46
ice9__trying to upgrade adept wizard saying close adept and use the upgrade tool where is the upgrade tool ?01:47
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: oh... you need to make a kdm session entry.01:47
rayluice9__, adept wizard?01:47
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: just a sec.//01:47
stdinice9__: just click the button, it'll run automatically01:47
rayluignoramus, when you use spaces, it thinks it's a new argument01:47
ice9__I did click finish and nothing happened01:48
raylueither way, you don't need to grep the file, you can just ls the filename. and, because you don't have r to the directory, you'll need to sudo it01:48
ice9__it verified the upgrade tool but still nothing01:48
ice9__can't find it01:48
ice9__can I do it by command line01:48
ignoramusraylu: but i can't if the filename has spaces?01:48
m_tadeuignoramus: it's because of the spaces...put the filename between "...ls -la | grep "Aerosmith - - Dream On.mp3"01:48
rayluignoramus, you can by using  quotations or "\ "01:48
[ka]killerlol01:48
rayluagain, ls -l Aero*01:49
rayluwould probably be easier01:49
stdinice9__: if you install "update-manager-core" you can do "sudo do-release-upgrade"01:49
ice9__k01:49
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: http://nosrednaekim.wordpress.com/2007/11/10/kde4-or-bust-building-kde4/01:49
rayluoh, that upgrade wizard.01:49
ignoramusraylu: here, i changed a filename so no spaces.  Output = -r-xr-xr-x 1 user user 9274601 2006-12-05 12:40 Music.mp301:50
ice9__File "/usr/bin/do-release-upgrade", line 5, in <module>01:50
ice9__    import apt01:50
mike-kubuntuhey guys, quake4 wont run for me on amd6401:52
m_tadeuignoramus: :D my mistake again "chmod +w *" and not +r01:52
mike-kubuntufails at opening libgl through sdl01:52
ignoramusm_tadeu: :) lemme try again01:52
rayluwhy are they owned by "user"?01:52
rayluoh...that's your username01:52
ignoramusraylu: u got it01:52
rayluthat's a ...lame username =\01:53
ice9__where is apt located01:53
rayluice9__, apt the binary or it's configuration files?01:53
ignoramusraylu: that's just what I put to post here ;)01:53
ice9__./var/lib/apt01:53
ice9__I dunno just says apt01:53
rayluignoramus, oh.01:53
rayluice01:53
rayluwhat says apt?01:53
rayluif you're looking for "apt," you're doing something wrong01:53
ice9__python error01:54
ice9__import error01:54
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rayluok...mind pasting the output?01:54
ice9__apt-get works just fine01:54
nosrednaekimice9__: apt in that case is a python module01:54
[ka]killeroyasuminasai01:55
ignoramusm_tadeu: crap! the "sudo chmod +w *" works!01:55
nosrednaekimice9__: you many want to get the package "python-apt"01:55
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nosrednaekimignoramus: how... is... that.... crap?01:55
m_tadeuignoramus:  :)01:55
ignoramusas in "oh crap! yes!"01:55
ice9__already have it01:55
nosrednaekim:D01:55
ice9__I could do an export but where is the apt located01:55
ignoramuscan i do that to my home directory, or is that not advised?01:55
raylunot advised01:56
rayluthat allows anyone to write to your home directory01:56
ignoramusraylu: i ask because i am the only user01:56
ice9__is it var/lib/apt01:56
raylustill not a good idea.01:56
ice9__or usr/lib/apt01:56
ignoramusraylu: gotcha... i mess enough stuff up01:56
nosrednaekimice9__: no, neither ofthose places, and there isnot export command in python ;)01:57
rayluthough it's unlikely that anything will harm a single-user system anyway. so...have you modified your fstab, ignoramus?01:57
ignoramusraylu: to what?01:57
ice9__yes there is  export PYTHONPATH={$PYTHONPATH}:01:58
nosrednaekimoh... that. well, I doubt that is your problem, but to test, try this... run "python" and then type in "import apt"01:59
m_tadeuraylu: I think all files within the /home/user folder are writable....I see no problem on doing it01:59
ignoramusm_tadeu: i did it anyway ;) ... i like fixing stuff (with a little help, of course)01:59
raylum_tadeu, it would set it for o01:59
rayluand nevermind about fstab02:00
ignoramusraylu: yeah, my drive works fine for now, so i dont plan on messing with the settings (its set to exec)02:00
draikI did a fresh install of Kubuntu Gutsy on my friend's computer.02:00
draikWhy his DVD drive won't work is beyond me.02:01
draikAlso, his computer fails to go online when I hook it up to my network.02:01
ice9__ nope don't have apt02:01
ice9__wierd02:01
nosrednaekimdraik: did you install with the same dvd drive?02:01
draikThe gateway doesn't stick02:01
ice9__I do have python-apt02:01
ice9__though02:01
ignoramusthanks all- time to get drinks now!  Cheers!02:01
Aresilekif a dvd doesn't auto-mount, is there a way to force it to?02:01
draiknosrednaekim: The DVD didn't change. Besides, it didn't work with Feisty. This is a fresh install. I nuked the HDD and paved it with Gutsy.02:02
m_tadeuice9__: my system says apt can be found under sun-jave5-sdk....02:02
nosrednaekimAresilek: try "sudo mount /dev/cdrom"02:02
Aresilekthx nosrednaekim02:02
ice9__apt is in java02:02
ice9__really02:02
nosrednaekimAresilek: actually its.. "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt"... sorry02:02
nosrednaekimdraik: is it a SATA dvd drive?02:03
m_tadeuice9__: kinda weird, but...it's what it shows up here02:03
draiknosrednaekim: Nope. IDE.02:03
Aresileknosrednaekim: and if i already did teh first one then what?02:03
nosrednaekimdraik: weird02:03
draiknosrednaekim: But it wants to go to /dev/scd102:03
draikI'm about ready to do a new install02:04
m_tadeuThe program 'apt' can be found in the following packages:02:04
m_tadeu * sun-java5-jdk02:04
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Aresilekhmmm, nvm mind it worked02:04
nosrednaekimAresilek: if the first one didn't return any errors,that works too :D02:04
nosrednaekimm_tadeu: the "apt" we are talking aout is not exactly a program02:04
Aresileknosrednaekim: it worked thanks02:04
nosrednaekimXD02:04
draiknosrednaekim: trying to mount the DVD drive results in "wrong fs type..." it's set to Automatic02:05
m_tadeunosrednaekim: oh, sorry then :P02:05
Aresileknosrednaekim: and to unmount what do i do? 'sudo umount /dev/cdrom'?02:05
nosrednaekimdraik: try "eject /dev/scd1"02:05
draikAresilek: Yes02:05
draiknosrednaekim: sudo?02:06
BluesKajnosrednaekim, the kwrite export KDEHOME=~/.kde4, can't be saved02:06
nosrednaekimdraik: maybe..02:06
Aresilekdraik: thx02:06
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: oh... did you run it with kdesudo?02:06
draiknosrednaekim: Nope. Wasn't needed. It ejected the DVD in the DVD drive02:06
nosrednaekimdraik: it means it detects the hardware..02:07
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: oh.... Never mind... just a second02:07
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: saves for me here...02:08
BluesKajI'm using the run command ,02:09
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: oh... no, run that command from within the ssh terminal.02:09
draiknosrednaekim: What do you suggest now?02:09
nosrednaekimdraik: what type of dvd did you put in?02:09
nosrednaekimdraik: data or a movie?02:10
draiknosrednaekim: Data; APTonCD results.02:10
BluesKajnosrednaekim, nope, can't save it ..."not possible to write to the file"02:10
BluesKajeither way02:10
nosrednaekimhuh..... did kwrite look any different?02:11
nosrednaekimlike did it look kde4ish?02:11
BluesKajdunno, looked the same to me ...din't see any diff02:12
ice9__python-apt is located at /usr/share/python-apt02:12
ice9__does that seem right02:12
carbon_monoxidehello, what is the preferred foreign input method?02:12
ice9__but I export pythonpath for /usr/share/python-apt02:12
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: wait.... if you dont' want to log in as yourself.... you can skip that step, thats only neccesary if you aren't using the kde-devel user.02:12
BluesKaji used kde-devel instead of kde-test02:12
carbon_monoxideI have some trouble on using skim02:13
nosrednaekimice9__: thats not where it is kept..02:13
ice9__where is it kept then02:13
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: right.02:13
ice9__cause I can't find it02:13
nosrednaekimice9__: I shall check02:13
ice9__thanks02:13
draiknosrednaekim: When I insert the DVD it doesn't load the queue for an action.02:13
nosrednaekimdraik: hmmm, try another dvd..02:14
draiknosrednaekim: DVD or data?02:14
nosrednaekimdraik: either.02:15
nosrednaekimice9__: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/apt02:15
ice9__all I have is AptSources02:15
ice9__hmm02:15
nosrednaekimice9__: and/or /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/apt02:15
draiknosrednaekim: DVD is closest.02:15
ice9__and that is python-apt correct02:16
BluesKajhmm .. cd .kde4/share/apps: No such file or directory02:16
ice9__or is it something different02:16
draiknosrednaekim: Well, it loaded the prompt for action, but when I try Kaffeine, I am told insufficient rights02:16
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: you can skip all of those steps since you aren't loging in as yourself, but as a separate user02:16
nosrednaekimdraik: ah.. good.!02:17
nosrednaekimdraik: now try a data cd.02:17
nosrednaekim*dvd02:17
draiknosrednaekim: Hmmm? DVD or data?02:17
nosrednaekimdata DVD02:17
nosrednaekim:D02:18
ice9__man I just don't have that dir02:21
ice9__how can I install it02:21
nosrednaekimice9__: "apt-get install python-apt"02:21
ice9__or can you just send it to me via email ?02:21
ice9__I did02:21
nosrednaekimnah.02:21
nosrednaekimand it says its installed?02:21
ice9__but its not there02:21
ice9__yep02:21
ice9__can you make me a copy and send it to my email02:21
draiknosrednaekim: Nothing. No prompt for action02:22
ice9__Reading package lists... Done02:22
ice9__Building dependency tree02:22
ice9__Reading state information... Done02:22
nosrednaekimice9__: try removing that package and reinstalling it02:22
ice9__k02:23
nosrednaekimdraik: thats odd, since it seems to be working.02:23
nosrednaekimdraik: check you fstab and see what permissions ou gave your cd drive02:23
MilitantPotatoWhere do I change what programs are opened after login? it keeps opening my messanger, amarok, and a virtual keyboard02:23
* nosrednaekim isn't good with the fstab though02:23
BluesKajheh, kde-devel didn't pick up any of my settings ... what a PITA :(02:24
ice9__got it sweet02:24
ice9__wired I trid that before02:24
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: of course it didn't... its a new directory02:24
nosrednaekim*user02:25
BluesKajgonna dump it if possible , not going thru setting everything up again02:25
draiknosrednaekim: How do I check the fstab?02:25
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: just cpy your currect /home over02:25
ice9__what the package you need for do-release-upgradde02:25
ice9__what the package you need for do-release-upgrade02:25
nosrednaekimsudo cp -R /home/Blueskaj /home/kde-devel02:26
nosrednaekimice9__: no clue02:26
nosrednaekim!fstab02:26
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions02:26
MilitantPotatoI can't get Adept or Synaptic to run from the K menu, I have to run them from terminal, any ideas?02:26
nosrednaekimMilitantPotato: pribably a kdesu/kdesudo problem.02:27
MilitantPotatonosrednaekim: how would I sort out what exactly, and how to fix it?02:27
nosrednaekimMilitantPotato: first, your first question... go to system settings-> advanced-> session manager02:29
MilitantPotatonosrednaekim: thanks, I disabled restore prev. session.02:31
MilitantPotatoAny idea about the adept and synaptic deal?02:33
nosrednaekimMilitantPotato: no... not really, I've just noticed it.02:34
MilitantPotatohmm02:34
MilitantPotatokate, gedit, what's another editor?02:34
nosrednaekimkwrite02:35
nosrednaekimvim02:35
nosrednaekimemacs02:35
MilitantPotatokdesu right?02:35
nosrednaekimkdesu is not an editor02:35
MilitantPotatoSorry, for envoking root02:35
nosrednaekimyeah02:36
nosrednaekimwell, in gutsy its kdesudo02:36
MilitantPotato!pastebin02:36
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draiknosrednaekim: Ok. I did some editing of fstab. RELAX, I did a backup :)02:37
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MilitantPotatohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44676/02:38
MilitantPotatohm...02:38
MilitantPotatoi CAN do sudo gedit path02:38
MilitantPotatohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44677/02:39
MilitantPotatothat's trying to open synaptic02:39
MilitantPotatoweird that sudo works but kdesu/do doesn't02:40
nosrednaekimkdesudo isn't working? odd..02:40
nosrednaekimtry "gksu"02:41
BluesKajit wasn't working for me either kdesu or sudo worked but not kdesudo02:41
MilitantPotatogksu(do) works fine aswell.02:43
Aresileki think i may have asked this before, but is there any way to disable the scroll thingys on the intergrated track pad?02:44
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Zombocomhey02:44
draiknosrednaekim: rebooted and still get XINE plugin errors Kaffeine cannot play DVD02:45
nosrednaekim<_<02:45
draiknosrednaekim: Putting in a data DVD does nothing. Not even mount.02:45
nosrednaekimhmph.... I really don't have an idea02:45
nosrednaekimmaybe look at the output of dmesg02:46
Zombocomwait02:46
BluesKajdraik, install libdvdcss202:46
MilitantPotatoBluesKaj: did you manage to kdesudo working?02:46
draikBluesKaj: It is.02:46
Zombocomare you sure the drive is dvd compatible?02:46
draikZombocom: Yes. It's a DVD Burner. I would hope so :)02:46
Zombocomkk02:46
BluesKajMilitantPotato, I'm not too concerned ...use sudo in the shell and kdesu in the run command02:46
Zombocomsorry02:46
draikZombocom: It's all good. You didn't know.02:47
MilitantPotatoso my K menu for administrative stuff is going to remain broken?02:47
DragnslcrAresilek- if so, it should be in ksynaptics02:47
ZombocomI have a question: I would like to use my screensaver as a desktop background, and I've found plenty of information on how to do it with nautilus, but not with kde.  is there any way to do it in KDE?02:48
heinkel_112Hello02:48
DRtuxthepenguinwhy is strigi weak02:49
Zombocomanyone have a solution?02:49
ice9__007-11-15 20:47:49,665 ERROR pre-requists item 'http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/release-upgrader-dpkg/release-upgrader-dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu11.2_i386.udeb' is NOT trusted02:50
ice9__wtf02:50
heinkel_112i have finally got a download of gutsy. I am pondering upgrade tactics. Wipe clean and new install or using the upgrade wizard this time? got some recommended reading?02:50
ZombocomDrtux: strigi pisses me off to no end02:50
ice9__not trusted02:50
MilitantPotatomissing a key :)02:50
ice9__happens everytime I try to upgrade02:50
ice9__what key am I missing02:51
BluesKajI don't understand strigi ...itdoesn't do anything for me ...I prefer to use  locate: in the konq addressbar02:51
Zombocomlocate: is still there?02:51
Zombocomsweet02:51
ardchoilleZombocom: there is a way to do that with a screensaver, something about the option "-root" to draw it on the root window (desktop) but I forgot how02:51
Zombocomardchoille: where can I find that out?02:52
Zombocomardchoille: I tried google but I didn't come up with anything other than the nautilus instructions02:53
ardchoilleZombocom: I found it, tested and it works :)02:53
ardchoilleZombocom: Open kcontrol and I'll guide you trhu it02:53
Zombocomk02:54
ardchoilleZombocom: Go to Desktop > Behavior02:54
Zombocomalright?02:54
ardchoilleZombocom: second checkbox "Allow programs in desktop window" check it02:54
Zombocomapply?02:55
ardchoilleyes02:55
MilitantPotatowell for somereason the wacom device in xorg was uncommented, removed those, now to sort out why kdesudo doesn't work.02:55
ardchoilleZombocom: ls /usr/lib/xscreensaver   <-- choose a screensaver and launch it with: /usr/lib/xscreensaver/galaxy -root  (replace "galaxy" with a scr of your choice)02:56
Zombocomardchoille: what next02:56
ardchoilleZombocom: You should then see the screensaver as your desktop wallpaper02:56
ardchoilleZombocom: Keep in mind that some of the screensavers will eat up a lot of your CPU02:57
draikWhat can I do to get the DVD player to see my data DVD? I want to get some apps installed02:57
Zombocomardchoille: I don't have a directory called /usr/lib/xscreensaver02:58
ardchoilleZombocom: Holf on..02:59
ardchoilleZombocom: I'm not sure which package I installed provides it, maybe kdeartwork03:00
mrtimbodoes anyone else have a problem with the tap to click settings being saved03:00
ardchoilleZombocom: That's not it, still looking for it..03:01
Zombocomardchoille: thank you03:01
mrtimbodoes anyone else have a problem with the tap to click settings being saved03:03
FroggyTheGreatHmm.  What's an easy way to uninstall GNOME?03:04
ardchoilleZombocom: I don't remember which package provides is, but you can onstall xscreensaver and xscreensaver-data and get all the screensavers03:04
Zombocomardchoille: I think it's just in /usr/bin03:05
Zombocomardchoille: because I checked the kscreensaver thing and it said that03:06
mrtimbodoes anyone else in here use ksynaptics?03:06
ardchoilleZombocom: That may be the binaryitself, but testing here with "/usr/lib/xscreensaver/galaxy -root" works great03:06
ToddEDMany of you guys notice that since installing Ubuntu on a laptop, that the screen is not as bright as it was in XP?03:07
ToddEDMkububuntu03:07
BluesKajno joy..kde4 won't start ...some error reverts back to 3.5.8 ...dunno what kde-devel is supposed to do but i seems like a seperate desktop altogether ...anyway , now I'm stuck with 2 extra destops that don't work , it seems03:07
ardchoilleZombocom: Try: find /usr -name xscreensaver03:07
FroggyTheGreatAny pointers on completely uninstalling Gnome?03:07
mrtimbomy kubuntu is just as bright as vista i just had to turn the brightness up with keyboard shortcuts03:08
ToddEDMhmmmmm03:08
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ToddEDMwhats the keyboard shortcut.. just Fn ->03:09
mrtimboFn+ the brightness key, mine are blue keys03:09
mrtimbolooks like a sun03:09
ToddEDMyeah, you on an acer laptop?03:09
mrtimboyes03:09
ToddEDMme too03:09
mrtimboaspire 5610z03:09
sn00zerwhen i run aptitude it wants to uninstall all my kde programs but i still use them, how do i fix this?03:09
mrtimbohold down the fn key and brightness key at the same time03:10
sn00zerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44678/03:10
FroggyTheGreatSo if I were to select all GNOME packages in Adept and "Request Purging", is that a bad idea?03:10
ToddEDMyeah i have it as high as it goes03:10
mrtimbohuh, do you have it on powersave?03:10
mrtimboor a dark theme?03:10
RandMC_Gutsy Gibbon install had some errors halfway, and then tried again and gutsy doesn't recognize my wifi card. (i am currently on a windows machine) decided to install Dapper Drake, but it can't recognize my wifi card, waiting to see if Feisty Fawn CD is found and install that.03:10
ToddEDMno, theme is not dark03:10
ToddEDMpowersave.. dunno03:11
mrtimbowhat model do you have?03:11
ToddEDM9300-502403:11
MilitantPotatowhen I try to run kdesu(do) i get the following: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server, Xlib: No protocol specified, kate: cannot connect to X server :0.003:12
sn00zerany ideas on my aptitude problem?03:13
draikardchoille: Hello. How are you?03:14
ardchoilleHi draik :)03:15
Zombocomardchoille: what is it that the command does03:17
ardchoilleZombocom: that command runs the selected screensaver in the root window03:17
Zombocomohkay03:18
Zombocomso If I knew where the screensaver was03:18
ZombocomI could modify the command?03:18
ardchoilleZombocom: Try: find /usr -name xscreensaver03:18
Zombocomit doesn't return anything03:18
ardchoilleZombocom: Yes, the galaxy screensaver even has a man page03:18
Zombocomlocate: xscreensaver03:18
ardchoilleZombocom: Did you update the slocate database before using locate?03:19
MilitantPotatoI fixed it, :) xhost +local:<username>03:19
Zombocomlocate: returns stuff03:19
Zombocomfind doesn't03:19
MilitantPotatoBluesKaj: xhost +local:username worked for me.03:19
ardchoilleZombocom: ok, use the path/screensaver with the -root option03:20
Zombocomok03:22
ice9__damn never going to be able to upgrade to gusty03:25
ice9__lol03:25
ice9__now getting source not trusted03:25
ice9__wth03:25
MilitantPotatoice9 are you on feisty?03:25
ice9__yes03:25
MilitantPotato!repositories03:26
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:26
ice9__should I add those03:26
MilitantPotatonah03:26
MilitantPotatowas reading it :)03:26
ice9__k03:27
MilitantPotatogreat time for ubuntu wiki to be down :)03:28
MilitantPotatooh wait there's a command03:28
ardchoilleMilitantPotato: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/  works here03:28
MilitantPotatohttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty03:29
MilitantPotatodoes that?03:29
ice9__I don't get that manage-repos window to pop up either03:29
ice9__and yes I do have software-properties-kde installed03:29
MilitantPotatothere's a command to re-install the default repos03:30
ardchoilleMilitantPotato: Oh, I thought you meant *the* ubuntu wiki03:30
MilitantPotatoi just can't remember it.03:30
ardchoille!easysource03:30
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:30
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Zombocomardchoille: I've found the screensavers03:31
Zombocomthey end with .desktop03:31
MilitantPotatoice9__: go to the place ardchoille posted03:32
MilitantPotatothat should get your sources/keys sorted, hopefully.03:32
ardchoilleZombocom: Those are .desktop files, not the screensavers themselves. you can open a .desktop file in kate and look at the "Exec" command to see what the .desktop file actually launches03:33
BluesKajardchoille, I've decided against trying to use kde4 since it's broken ..and I'd like to free the space it uses on the hdd ...got any advice how to uninstall it ?03:34
ardchoilleBluesKaj: Sorry, no.03:35
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MilitantPotatoinstall something that conflicts with it and pray? :)03:35
ardchoilleI don't use beta apps unless they come installed with the system.. learned my lesson before.03:35
BluesKajstdin, you still around ?03:35
stdintired, but still here03:35
BluesKajyeah, my kde4 install is broken and i domn't feel much like fighting to make it work... what's the uninstall procedure03:36
ice9__nope same untrusted error03:37
stdinBluesKaj: it's just "rm -rf /place/I/installed/kde4/to"03:37
ice9__is it pulling it from another sources.list maybe03:37
BluesKajhehe stdin03:37
Zombocomardchoille: am I looking for the file that the kss file actually executes?03:37
ZombocomI mean03:37
Zombocom.desktop file launches a .kss file03:37
ardchoilleDoes that work on the desktop?03:39
chino_hi, I need some help03:39
Zombocomwait03:39
Zombocomso I run the command -root?03:39
ice9__there is a prerequists-sources.list03:39
ice9__in sources.list.d03:39
chino_i try to install flash player 9 in koqueror03:39
ice9__can I change the name03:40
ardchoilleZombocom: No, you run: /path/screensaver --root03:40
ice9__you think that might work better03:40
ardchoilleZombocom: No, you run: /path/screensaver -root03:40
Zombocomso I type in /path/screensaver -root as in the path to the file containing the screensaver?03:41
ardchoilleZombocom: That should work03:42
Zombocomk03:42
ice9__can you delete sources.list.d ?03:42
ardchoilleice9__: Why would you want to do that?03:43
ice9__cause thats were the prerequists for the repos are03:43
ice9__and thats the error I  am getting when upgrading to gusty03:44
ardchoilleice9__: My /etc/apt/sources.list.d is empty, most of your sources are in the /etc/apt/sources.list file03:44
ice9__no trusted sources03:44
posingaspopularhow to get LaTek?03:46
ZombocomI ran it03:46
ice9__apt-cache search latek03:46
Zombocomand it appears that the screensaver isn't running03:46
ice9__then apt-get install <packagename>03:47
ice9__Getting upgrade prerequisites failed03:47
ice9__The system was unable to get the prerequisites for the upgrade. The upgrade will abort now and restore the original system state.03:47
ardchoilleZombocom: I don't know what to tell you, it works here03:47
ice9__thats the error I am getting03:47
chino_how can i get flash player in konqueror?03:47
ardchoille!flash03:48
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash03:48
Zombocomoh sweet03:48
ZombocomI did it03:48
Zombocomeuphoria is running in the background03:48
ardchoille:)03:48
Zombocomthanks ardchoille03:49
ardchoilleyw03:49
ice9__http://paste.lisp.org/display/50923.03:50
ice9__thats up upgrade error03:50
ice9__everytime03:50
ice9__can anyone check that out for me03:56
spykedtomatohi all - since my upgrade to gutsy my keyboard isn't working like it should - I've tried 2 different keyboards but the special keys (Alt Gr) don't work... any ideas?03:56
chino_i follow the steps in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash but it don't works04:04
chino_:(04:04
chino_I install the flashplugin-nonfre then in konqueror i go to Settings → Configure Konqueror -Plugins- Scan for new plugins then i restart the browser, but i don't get flash player04:09
heinkel_111i have a multiboot installation with two kubuntu partitions. How do I set from which one my machine will find grub at boot-up?04:10
heinkel_111(i also have a WinXP partition...)04:10
heinkel_111maybe i should call that two kubuntu installations04:10
heinkel_111they share a third /home partition but have separate /boot directories04:11
mot_what's the easiest way to get s-video out working on kubuntu so i can stream stuff to my tc?04:12
mot_tv*04:12
heinkel_111now i have upgraded my 64 bit installation to gutsy but grub only starts the feisty version, because it is on the 32 bit installation, and the upgrade process did not fix that04:12
heinkel_111i seem to be running gutsy with the feisty kernel right now04:12
heinkel_111...04:12
heinkel_111anyone?04:15
Zombocomhello04:15
heinkel_111!dualboot04:15
ubotuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot04:15
heinkel_111!multiboot04:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about multiboot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:15
billydHi yas Zombo04:15
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juanmahola04:29
juanmacomo funciona esto04:30
boblenyHi! Could some one help me please? I was messing around with some settings in Konqueror, trying to get it to open images in Kview. Apparently in my meddling, I screwed something up. Now the entire system is incapable of displaying thumbnail images of PNG and JPG files. The only two things I messed with, go figure... Anyways, my question is this, how do I reset the thumbnail preview thingy?04:34
nite613__Is there a fusion-icon package hiding somewhere in my apt tree? Or an equivalent handy tool for switching wms and decorators?04:37
MarcChow do I delete root's trash?04:37
DeadJonesheyas04:38
DeadJonesive got some kicker issues04:38
SudoKingCan you install internet explorer in kubuntu?04:39
DeadJonesas in .. its not coming up. and when i alt+f2 and type kicker, kicker comes up but task area on the right is garbled04:39
MarcCSudoKing: sure, just run ies4linux04:39
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\dEADwhy would you want to put IE on kubuntu?04:39
SudoKingno no just kidding04:39
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ubuntu_Can someone tell me why this stupid live cd wont let me unmount my partitions? I need to mess with them.04:39
\dEADlive cd is just a taste04:39
SudoKingI just wonderhed how biased M$ was..04:39
ubuntu_qtparted wont even let me resize one04:39
Tm_Tubuntu_: and the error is...04:39
jagcorvairhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44680/04:39
\dEADyou 'probably' could put IE on but its a waste of time and resource04:40
ubuntu_Tm_T: No error. it just doesnt have an option in qtparted to unmount04:40
Tm_TSudoKing: don't troll04:40
jagcorvairCan someone please take a look at the error messages I received from trying to watch a DVD with Kaffeine04:40
jagcorvairhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44680/04:40
Tm_Tubuntu_: then umount in konsole04:40
SudoKingI didn't know wthat was trolling...04:40
ubuntu_Tm_T: It doesnt show on mount -l04:40
ubuntu_Tm_T: Or maybe i just dont know how04:40
MarcCjagcorvair: does it work if you start kaffeine with "kdesu kaffeine"?04:41
Tm_Tubuntu_: mount alone should list enough04:41
Tm_Tubuntu_: if not, it's not mounted04:41
ubuntu_Tm_T: It only lists proc, tmpfs, devpts, udev and varrun04:41
Tm_Tubuntu_: then no mounted04:41
* BluesKaj wonders what fascination ppl have with IE , never understood that :)04:41
ubuntu_Tm_T: Then how come qt part ed won't allow me to resize one of my partitions?04:41
Tm_Tubuntu_: no idea04:41
ubuntu_*sigh*04:42
ubuntu_wow, this is ridiculous04:42
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ubuntu_if i apt-get on a live, where does it save to?04:42
* ubunturos wonders if apt-get on live, makes sense?04:42
HirvinenWell, there are valid motivations(besides questions of preference) to install IE under Linux such as website testing or sites that are built to work only with it...04:42
ubuntu_because gparted > qtparted04:43
Hirvinenubunturos: Yes, e.g. for testing an application not included on the cd or having a need for a newer version.04:43
heinkel_111is it standard practice in gutsy that my root partition is not visible in /etc/mtab?04:43
heinkel_111or do i have some kind of problem with the installation?04:44
Tm_Theinkel_111: latter04:44
heinkel_111yes04:44
heinkel_111it appeared rather strange04:44
BluesKajHirvinen, konq can be set to act like IE04:44
ubuntu_This is bad. QTParted won't let me resize my old linux partition.....04:44
jagcorvairMarcC: No. It actually crashed after I got the same error message.04:44
Tm_TBluesKaj: doesn't render like IE though04:44
Tm_Tbut this IE discussion is offtopic04:44
HirvinenBluesKaj: To report itself as IE, yes. To behave like it, no.04:45
HirvinenYup.04:45
BluesKajubuntu_ , try gparted live cd ..DL and burn it , it's very effective and easy to use04:45
heinkel_111ubuntu_ is you old linux partition possible to resize then? you can only grow the partition if there is free space04:45
heinkel_111right next to it04:45
ubuntu_heinkel_111: I know04:45
MarcCjagcorvair: and it doesn't play in other media players like VLC?04:45
ubuntu_*sigh* now QTParted wont even load... cya guys04:46
BluesKajanyway it's sacktime here04:46
BluesKajnite folks04:46
Hirvinenubuntu_: Try gparted, I hear it's better than Qtparted.04:46
MarcCahhh, tried 1394 video capture on the dell ubuntu laptop today, first time....worked a charm04:47
jagcorvairMarcC: This is a new install. I have covered the basics, but I will keep trying. "sudo apt-get install vlc' right?04:47
lisa_myraiskool@hotmail.com04:48
MarcCjagcorvair: jep, proabably04:48
MarcC0_o04:48
lisa_??04:48
lisa_who r u??04:48
MarcC!offtopic04:48
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:48
rocketsHey guys04:50
rocketsHow can I make Konversation use a tree-style sidebar for channels, rather then tabs04:50
jagcorvairMarcC: mount: block device /dev/scd1 is write-protected, mounting read-only04:50
rocketsah found it.04:50
rocketsalso, how do I enable desktop effects?04:50
MarcCjagcorvair: I would think that's normal with a DVD :-/04:50
jagcorvairMarcC: Ok. But why can't it play at all?04:51
MarcCjagcorvair: did you do the CSS magic?04:51
jagcorvairMarcC: CSS magic?04:51
jagcorvairMarcC: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss204:52
jagcorvairMarcC: Is that it?04:52
MarcCjagcorvair: I did it through automatix...I don't recall the libdvdcss2 thing doing it for me04:52
jagcorvairMarcC: Do tell......04:52
jagcorvairMarcC: What is automatix?04:53
MarcCjagcorvair: http://getautomatix.com04:53
rocketsAutomatix is a fantastic way to break upgrades.04:53
MarcCjust a quick setup utility for common stuff...but some say it's not kosher04:53
MarcCanyway, if you just want DVD support and are willing to really suck it up on your next dist-upgrade, give it a try :D04:54
jagcorvairMarcC: What do you mean? What does automatix do?04:54
posingaspopularsomeone say it's actively dangerous to the stability of the operating system. matthew made the case here: http://mjg59.livejournal.com/ i you read the third blog down04:55
posingaspopularsome would say*04:55
posingaspopularif you read*04:55
MarcCjagcorvair: just read their FAQ...I think it breaks down most of the issues04:55
MarcCI think you can also remove whatever it installs through the same interface, but I haven't tried that04:55
MarcCI'm not sure how current most of the complaints/problems are04:56
posingaspopular^^ complaints on matthew's blog04:56
rocketsOk, I'm having an actual "big deal" issue. When I log in to kubuntu with Xgl enabled, its slow as hell. With xgl disasbled its fine.04:57
rocketsThere's no problem at all with Xgl under gnome.04:57
MarcCposingaspopular: yeah, I read that before, but I'm not sure if they haven't addressed those issues since...august04:58
MarcCnot to defend them or anything :(04:58
spykedtomatohi there - dumb lille konqueror question - I made some modifications a long time ago using the instructions here: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden%20configuration - but I want to turn everything to defaults again - any ideas how?04:59
posingaspopularyea i dont think he's blogged much since then04:59
rocketsApparently nobody likes me in this channel.05:01
rocketsHow do I enable font anti-aliasing in KDE?05:01
MarcCcontrol panel05:02
MarcCappearance -> fonts I think05:02
rocketsfound it05:02
hydrogenheh05:02
hydrogenthe funny thing is05:02
hydrogenautomatix is going to be integrated with ubuntu proper in hardy05:03
rocketsHmm . . .05:03
rocketsNo KDE sounds seem to be playing05:03
rocketsarts is running05:03
rocketssound works in gnome05:03
spykedtomatohydrogen: where do you have that info from?05:04
hydrogenthe blueprints05:04
hydrogenfor hardy05:04
spykedtomato... i thought automatix and ubuntu hated each other? or is that old news?05:04
rocketsthey dont *hate* eachother.05:05
rocketsubuntu just thinks automatix breaks ubuntu.05:05
rocketsand it does.05:05
jarihi05:11
Tm_Tmoi05:12
jaridoes any one know how to setup the laptops touch pad? it works otherwise but needs tuning05:12
jarimoi Tm_T :)05:12
hydrogenuhh05:13
hydrogentheres a factoid about it05:13
hydrogen!touchpad05:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:13
Tm_T!synaptics05:13
ubotuFor a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad05:13
hydrogenyea05:13
hydrogenthats it05:13
hydrogenI knew I was gonna type in the ubuntu package manager instead05:13
hydrogenbecause they have way too similar names05:14
Tm_T!touchpad | hydrogen05:15
ubotuhydrogen: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad05:15
hydrogen!yay | tm_t05:15
ubotutm_t: Glad you made it! :-)05:15
Tm_Term05:15
hydrogenwow, that actually worked05:15
hydrogenand even what ubotu said made sense in context05:15
hydrogenthat never happens for me05:16
jarithanks!05:20
jagcorvairI cannot manage to make any media player play the DVD. I keep getting "missing plugins" and "insufficient rights" errors05:22
betomedinhola? alguien habla español?05:23
keith-okay is there a way to make my toolbars in kopete not return after i restart kopete?05:23
keith-the main toolbar and the quick search are the ones i'm having issues with05:23
Tm_T!es | betomedin05:24
ubotubetomedin: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.05:24
betomedingracias :D05:24
jagcorvairHow do I just install everything that is DVD and DVD-plugin related?05:26
hydrogen!dvd | jagcorvair05:29
ubotujagcorvair: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs05:29
jagcorvairhydrogen: I've tried all of that. Nothing seems to work :(05:36
rocketsWhat's the metapackage for kde4 again>?05:36
kristjan_hey my adept lost the ability to use KDE's user style, colors and font size recently - is it temporally so or what has happened to kdesudo?05:43
keith-it's because there is no theme set for root05:44
kristjan_keith-: there doesn't have to be05:45
kristjan_keith-: that's the point of kdesudo in gutsy05:45
keith-i've never had it use my theme or font even with kdesudo...05:45
kristjan_keith-: adept should adapt the user kde preferences of look&feel05:45
kristjan_keith-: it did for me after, but now it doesn't after the last system update05:46
kristjan_keith-: err, scratch that extra "after"05:46
keith-hmm odd... check bugreports?05:47
keith-it could definitely be that i haven't noticed it working because i rarely use adept05:47
Dr_Willis!freenx06:01
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX06:01
Rukushi06:09
RukusI cant get my ATI card to use fglrx06:09
Dr_Willishiddy hooo06:09
Rukusit defaults to Mesa06:09
Rukuswhy?06:09
Dr_Williswhat card is this?06:09
Rukusthis is resulting in a super slow pc06:09
Rukusi have a laptop with the xpress200m chipset06:10
Dr_Willis I got a x200m laptop also.. :) dont expect it to do much 3d wise...06:10
Rukusi dont expect it to, i just expect it to atleast run the driver06:10
Dr_WillisNot sure if its using mesa or not. it is using the fglrx driver.06:10
Rukustry fglrxinfo on yours06:11
Rukustell me if yours works06:11
Dr_WillisThe laptop is not handy. :) let me go plug it in  downstairs.06:11
Rukusoh ok06:11
Rukusthanks for that too!06:11
m4st3rplz invite me the python channel06:12
Rukusi wonder if i need to enable the restricted driver??? that doesnt sound right06:12
Dr_willis_And here i am in the basement.. :)06:13
Dr_willis_all i did for my laptop was run the restircted-manmager tool and checked to let it install the fglrx drivers06:13
Rukusneatoo06:13
Rukusreally06:13
Rukuswhats that tool06:13
Dr_willis_Its in the menus somewhere.06:13
Rukushmm06:13
Dr_willis_or try runnin sudo restricted-manager06:13
Dr_willis_actually I though the first time ya booted up - it asked even. :)06:14
Rukusso i should run restricted driversS??/06:14
Rukusi should reboot06:15
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Dr_willis_All the restricted-manager tool does - Is install the actual ATI fglrx drivers and others your system may need06:15
Rukusso06:15
Dr_willis_lets see what the wiki says06:15
Dr_willis_!ati06:15
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:15
bless09msg nickserv set email dandelion1773@hanmail.net06:15
Rukususe status screenf or that06:16
Rukusfor06:16
Rukusnever issue nickerv/chanserv commands in a chat06:16
bazhangbless09: you need to /msg06:17
Dr_willis_sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager-kde06:17
Dr_willis_Open the restricted drivers manager from KMenu → System Settings → Advanced → Restricted Drivers and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver". This will hopefully enable fglrx in a painless way06:17
bless09bazhang: ok i did06:17
Rukusok06:17
Rukusall i need to do now is reboot06:18
Rukusthanks for the help, i'll be back to let u know how it went06:18
rocketsAnybody have any KDE 3.5 theme reccomednations06:19
rocketsSomething nice and clean.06:19
Dr_willis_I tend to just use the Plastik or whatever themes are in the repos.06:19
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Dr_willis_polyester is nice and clean also. :) easy on the eyes..06:21
Dr_willis_Of course if you start using compiz.. well that opens up other posibilites06:21
rocketsDr_willis I cant use compiz06:22
Dr_willis_thats proberly a good thing. :)06:22
rocketsDr_willis I have ATI, so I need to use Xgl, and Xgl works FINE in gnome, but makes KDE slow as hel06:23
rocketsfor some reason.06:23
rocketsIn gnome i have compiz with crazy effects all fine06:23
Dr_willis_the newer ati drivers i hear - remove the need for xgl.. but I dont use them.. so cant tell ya anything more.06:24
rocketsDr_willis_: I know that, those drivers segfault on my machine.06:24
barkahhi06:26
barkahi need help06:26
barkahi am using kubuntu now06:26
barkahi try mount hardisk with windows partition (FAT32) and success06:26
pacmanhey dr_willis, can you PM me?06:26
barkahbut i cannot edit the files on it06:26
barkahit become read only file06:27
barkahi cannot edit my files on windows patition06:27
MilitantPotatorockets: you can use the new ATI drivers, they don't need XGL06:27
barkahanyone can help me?06:27
MilitantPotatorockets: but they're a little buggy.06:27
Dr_willis_pacman,  whatever for?06:28
MilitantPotatobarkah: use chown06:28
barkahwhat is chown?06:28
MilitantPotatotype man chown into console to learn how to use it :)06:28
MilitantPotatoit changes file permissions06:28
Dr_willis_When mounting a vfat partition you MUST use the proper options to set the permissions.06:28
MilitantPotatoah that too06:28
Dr_willis_you dont 'chown' vfat mount points, or files on a fat partition06:28
MilitantPotatoyou don't?06:29
barkahok, i'll try06:29
Dr_willis_the umask=0002 is a common optiuon when mounting them06:29
MilitantPotatoAh sorry, thanks for correcting me.06:29
Dr_willis_MilitantPotato,  you can try.. :) it wont do anything.06:29
pacmanI got a few questions, and I don't want to ass up the main chat06:29
Dr_willis_BRB06:29
barkahi mount from system administration06:29
MilitantPotatoUUID=469E-6D26 /media/hda5 vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 106:30
barkahand disks and file systems06:30
MilitantPotatothat's the entry in my fstab for my vfat06:30
rocketsI installed all the KDE4 stuff, how can I tell which things in the menu are KDE4 and which are KDE 3.5?06:30
MilitantPotatowb06:31
MilitantPotato!factoids06:32
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:32
sonoftheclayrHow do I change the resolution of the terminal (tty1-6)? I have vga=791 appended to the boot options in grub's menu.lst but it is still 800x60006:33
Dr_willis_Hmm.. that advant-window-navagiator thing.. looks nice.. but cant get it to show up on the Correct Monitor.. heh heh..06:34
MilitantPotato!umask06:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:35
Dr_willis_!ntfs06:35
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE06:36
Dr_willis_the ntfs/vfat guides show examples of using the umask optuon in the fstab file06:36
rocketsAnybody have any reccomendations for making Kopete less ugly?06:36
MilitantPotatothanks willis06:36
rocketsHmm I can't seem to find a KDE cpu frequency monitoring applet06:38
MilitantPotatohave you logged out and back in after installing it?06:39
bazhangrockets: what's wrong with kopete? you could ask in #kopete06:39
rocketsbazhang: its ugly as hell.06:39
MilitantPotatorockets: get emerald :)06:39
raylueh?06:40
bazhangrockets: not really a support channel issue--I like the way it looks06:40
raylui hate how pidgin looks. kopete is awesome06:40
rocketsII hate how kopete looks, pidgin is awesome.06:40
rockets;-P06:40
Rukusmy composite manager failed now06:40
raylulol06:40
rayluif you like gtk, use ubuntu06:40
rocketsI do, usually.06:40
rocketsI can't stand the way Qt looks, its so cluttered. I just like fooling with KDE sometimes.06:41
Daisuke-Idoraylu: i like firefox, should i stop using kubuntu?06:41
Tm_Trockets: have you looked configurations?06:41
rocketswhat does "looked configurations" mean06:41
rayluDaisuke-Ido, eh? it's neither qt nor gtk, right?06:41
Tm_Traylu: Firefox is GTK06:42
Rukushttp://pastebin.com/m404f64c006:42
Tm_Trockets: look settings, twice06:42
Rukuswhats that mean06:42
rayluo.006:42
rockets"look settings"?06:42
rocketsI'm going to guess that english is not your first language and that you're asking me to look AT configurations.06:42
MilitantPotatoRukus: what driver and card?06:43
rayluo.0, he's a kde dev06:43
RukusATI xpress200m fglrx. just rebooted into restricted drivers06:43
Rukusand enabled fglrx driver06:43
rocketsraylu: it uses gtk06:44
rocketsGTK + XUL06:44
MilitantPotatoRukus: unless you installed the drivers from the ATI website, your drivers don't support AIGLX, so you'll need to run XGL to get things like compiz and the fancier window decorations to work.06:44
raylui see06:44
rocketsWhere is the Kubuntu gui for enabling effects btw06:44
raylurockets, there is none :D06:44
MilitantPotatoRukus: on gutsy it should run XGL without any configuration, on feisty it requires some scripts.06:44
Rukusohhhh06:45
Rukusso al li need to do i install xgl-server to correct this?06:45
MilitantPotatoyep06:45
Rukusok thanks man06:45
MilitantPotatohopefully.06:45
Rukus:)06:45
bazhangraylu: not quite so; none by default--but easily installed06:45
rayluright06:46
raylubut there's no gui for enabling them :D06:46
MilitantPotatoit does mention enabling composite, but I seem to remember composite made compiz stop working for me on the old ATI drivers.06:46
rocketsraylu: oh. great.06:46
Rukusxserver-xgl rather06:47
Rukuswell we'll see06:47
Rukusi'm not running compix at the moment, i'm done with botching my ssystem for now06:47
Rukusi just want it to work now06:47
MilitantPotatocompiz to work?06:48
Rukusno my video card06:48
Rukusi just got it back to normal res from 640x48006:48
Rukusok bbl06:48
Rukusrestarting X-server06:48
gorlaki know you can install a fresh copy of kubuntu from the CD, and you can use the web to upgrade the os, but can you use the CD to upgrade so you dont lose your settings /files ?06:50
Rukusok everything seems to work now06:51
Rukusaltho a lil slow06:51
bazhanggorlak: you mean to have a backup of everything you have ever installed?06:51
bazhang!info aptoncd06:52
ubotuaptoncd: Installation disc creator for packages downloaded via APT. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.97-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 135 kB, installed size 1024 kB06:52
gorlakupgrading the os to gutsy. kinda like how windows does its "upgrade" feature.06:53
gorlaknot just the applications, being kept when it upgrades but everything in my home dir too06:54
bazhanggorlak: not sure about windows--never touch the stuff :} back up your home folder, then use aptoncd for the rest06:54
Dr_willis_I find its often much cleaner to just backup your home dir. (or keep it on its own partition) and do clean reinstalls06:55
gorlakbacking up the home dir would be precautionary right? does it actually intentionally go through and wipe out those dirs or just in case?06:56
MilitantPotatogorlak: you can upgrade from the CD, but a fresh install is the best way to go.06:56
gorlaki see06:56
bazhangDr_willis_: excellent point--but I always forget to do that--will remember next time :}06:56
Tm_TMilitantPotato: it's best way to go by who?06:56
Tm_Tgorlak: try upgrading if you have nothing to lose06:57
MilitantPotatoTm_T: people who don't mind the extra bit of time it takes, or don't want to worry if something breaks I'd reccon06:57
gorlaktried doing it using the CD, but i couldnt figure out how to get it to use the CD for the upgrade is all06:57
gorlaki already have my homedir backed up, in a way.06:57
vbgunzwhat does rip dvd video in k3b do? I know it sounds straightforward, but seriously... what does it do? how do you work it?06:58
MilitantPotatothe manual might tell you?06:59
bazhangvbgunz: it copies the dvd06:59
vbgunzI checked under toold 'rip dvd...' its not there06:59
MilitantPotatoTm_T: I guess I shouldn't of made it sound as definitive.07:00
gorlakill have to look through it again, thanks :)07:00
Tm_TMilitantPotato: aye07:00
vbgunzI think I got it... I just double clicked a file and it ended up down stairs07:00
vbgunzhmm... I thought I could convert a dvd to avi through k3b. isn't this possible?07:07
barkahi cannot edit the files on my vfat (windows) hardisk partition. please help me07:12
Tm_T!dvd | vbgunz07:13
ubotuvbgunz: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs07:13
mot_welp07:13
vbgunzheh, am looking for libdvdcss3... not finding it in deb form though I have a single decss file...07:13
mot_i've officially seen the worst thing on the internet.07:13
barkahhello07:14
mot_there is simply nothing worse than this in existance, i guarantee it.07:14
mot_ho-lee-shit.07:14
bazhang!ohmy | mot_07:14
ubotumot_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.07:14
barkahanyone can help me?07:15
mot_are you serious?07:15
mot_why is everybody in this country so politically correct.07:15
mot_oh man, the "s" word guys.07:15
Tm_Tmot_: we aren't in your country07:16
bazhang!ot | mot_07:16
ubotumot_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:16
barkahyea07:16
mot_Tm_T, where are you?07:16
barkahubotu can help me?07:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about can help me? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:16
Tm_Tmot_: elsewhere07:16
barkahcan you help me?07:16
mot_ahh you're finnish.07:16
mot_right. well, europeans are less prude than americans so i don't see where you're coming from.07:17
barkahubotu?07:17
mot_nevermind.07:17
Tm_Tmot_: well point is, this channel have to be suitable for all ages07:17
mot_Tm_T, right.07:18
mot_alright then, let's take careful observation of, let's say the US as a good microism of study.07:18
Tm_Tmot_: you are free to disagree, but that brings me some freedoms with it07:18
Tm_Tmot_: no, that's offtopic07:18
mot_it's acceptable to show blood, guts, gore and violence during mainstream prime-time television, but nudity and "coarse language" are oh-so lament-worthy? really now?07:18
Tm_TI know, but that's offtopic07:19
mot_you're right.07:19
mot_i'll just go to bed07:19
Tm_Tplease do07:19
MilitantPotato!mouse07:21
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto07:21
Rukuslets say i wanted to install gutsy on my machine, got any tips on doing so?07:21
Rukuserrr07:22
Rukuswaot07:22
Rukuswow07:22
Rukusi messed that up07:22
Rukuslets say i wanted to install compiz on my gutsy machine, got any tips on doing so?07:22
Tm_T!compiz | Rukus07:22
ubotuRukus: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion07:22
Tm_Tyes I got ;)07:22
Rukuslol07:22
Rukusniiice07:22
Rukusthanks07:22
Rukusi've never got ot to work yet. i dont think i've done it correctly07:23
Rukusi will try again07:24
MilitantPotatoman my xorg is messed up :(07:24
Rukusmine used to be07:25
Rukusthen i ran this command:07:25
Rukusone sec07:25
Rukussudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg07:25
Rukusif you know what ie means, great07:26
Rukusit*07:26
Rukusalso07:26
Rukuslol07:26
MilitantPotatowell for some reason everything was changed to fail safe07:26
Rukuswow07:27
Rukuscompiz works07:27
MilitantPotatois running dolphin via kdesudo a bad idea?07:27
Rukusno07:28
Rukusnot from what i understand07:28
Rukuswait07:28
Rukusi dunno07:28
NyleI just uploaded a video to youtube07:28
Nylehehe07:28
MilitantPotatowish me luck.07:29
Rukusoh man07:29
Rukusi alwasy miss steps07:29
Rukusaughh07:29
Rukusoh wasnt a big deal07:30
Rukuso brb07:30
MilitantPotatosweet.07:31
vbgunzis xvid in any repos?07:31
MilitantPotatomedibuntu i think07:31
vbgunzI enabled medibuntu. I have a few hits but nothing stands out :/07:32
vbgunzno xvid, libxvid...07:32
MilitantPotato!codecs07:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:33
vbgunzxvid not found on any of those pages...07:34
vbgunzthanks though07:34
MilitantPotatoyea that wound up being usless07:35
vbgunzI see xvid4conf in the repos but not sure if thats what I need07:36
Rukusok, i usually let my taskbar be covered by programs, and then touch the top of the screen to show it07:37
Rukusnow that i run compiz, i can no longer do that07:37
MilitantPotatolibxvidcore407:38
Rukuskkkkk?07:39
Rukuserr07:39
Rukus?07:39
MilitantPotato@ vbgunz07:39
vbgunzyes07:39
vbgunzI think that is it. was looking through debian repos and that is the only one that links back to xvid.org :)07:40
vbgunz"libxvidcore4 is already the newest version."07:40
vbgunzheh07:40
Rukusman compiz is sweet07:40
Rukusnow i just need the patience to configure it07:41
vbgunzthanks MilitantPotato!07:41
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HarahuHello I am on the site (wiki.kubuntu.org/) and was wondering where I can find a full list of the programs in Kubuntu 7.10 - Gutsy Gibbon, as well as if it is compatible with the Internet service provider "Wild Blue". I hope I am not interupting any thingI am new to Linuk-based OSs and am unfilimar with such thing (being new to computers and all). Ia terrible sorry if I am out of line in...07:42
Harahu...anyway and can what for the answers to the aforementioned question. (sorry for any syntax or spelling errors, and real or perceived. |\|00|3ishness)07:42
Tm_THarahu: full list? urm, that would be long one07:43
Harahu*or if this is an improper place to ask such questions.07:43
Tm_Tno this is fine07:44
HarahuI was wonder about a site with such a thing.07:44
Tm_THarahu: one kind of, packages.ubuntu.com07:45
HarahuSo there are are costomible downlaods?07:46
Harahu*costomizeble07:46
Tm_Twell, when you have installed Kubuntu, you can install ~whatever you like in it from package repositories07:46
Rukuswow07:46
Rukusthis is so awesome07:46
Harahucool.07:46
* Harahu is 17% into a Kubuntu DL07:47
HarahuDoes anyone here know if the ISP wildblue works with Kubuntu?07:49
Harahuor more accurately if their modems do?07:50
Daisuke-Idois it a cable modem?  dsl modem?07:52
Daisuke-Idoyou need to be more specific07:52
Daisuke-Idohow does it connect to the pc?  is the modem internal?  is the modem external?  is it a modem/router combo?07:53
HarahuExernal.07:53
Daisuke-Idocable?  dsl?07:53
HarahuSatalite07:54
Daisuke-Idohmm07:54
Daisuke-Idothen i have no clue07:54
Harahuoh and I had a router connected to it as well.07:54
HarahuI live in the middle of nowhere, so I am such with it.07:56
Harahu*stuck07:56
fignewif you have a router07:56
fignewthen you should be OK07:57
HarahuI see, I am connected to the router by Ethernet cable.07:58
HarahuThank you both.07:59
Rukusoh man i wish i had a faster graphis ard08:00
Rukusso ool08:00
Rukuskoool08:00
HarahuI read a bit on a forum and it work with ubuntu.08:00
Harahu*works08:01
bazhangHarahu: good luck! come back if you need help08:01
HarahuCan I stay?08:01
bazhanghehe08:02
bazhangof course--I thought you were off to install--sorry! :}08:02
* Harahu has been wanting to join another chatroom.08:02
bazhang#kubuntu-offtopic is nice08:03
HarahuI have somewhat strange question.08:03
HarahuCan you (in the universal sense) program the "startbar"-like thing (I have no idea what it is called) on Kubuntu the open like a folder?08:05
bazhangkmenu--like in os x?08:06
HarahuSo I can pick more then one program at a time.08:06
killermikeHarahu: What I do is to create a launchbar and place it at the side of the screen. I then drop my most comonly used applications onto that.08:07
HarahuI see.08:08
MilitantPotatoDoes anyone have a fix for Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server08:09
killermikeHarahu: That gives some of the benifits of what you are sugesting.08:09
Harahuyes.08:09
MilitantPotatoI'm having to run <sudo xhost +local:usrname> after every login but it keeps breaking my xorg.conf08:09
MilitantPotatoI can't run kdesudo untill I've run that command, but gksudo works fine.08:11
MilitantPotatoanyone?08:15
MilitantPotatobrb08:16
AddyKHmm, it's strange that kubuntu be so quiet...08:16
HarahuDoes Kubuntu have good tablet PC support. (my current PC is a non-tablet laptop. but I want to get one.)08:17
ActionParsnipyo yo yo08:23
HarahuHello.08:24
krautmoin08:24
ActionParsnipdoes anyone know how big is the basic install of kubuntu is?08:25
vgeas big as large xp install would imho08:26
bazhangless than 4GB iirc08:27
se7enon the desktop installer it says minimum2gb recomended 4gb ActionParsnip08:27
ActionParsnipse7en: dave?08:28
se7enActionParsnip: dave?08:28
ActionParsnipse7en: does the name shadoweater mean anything to you, maybe on yahoo?08:28
vgehmm, someone knows program to list last edited files in kde?08:28
MilitantPotatoI keep getting Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server when I try to use kdesudo, running sudo xhost +local:jason makes it so I can run kdesudo.   But I have to do this every login, and it seems to also be breaking my display (whatever the issue is) because it keeps putting me in fail safe grafics mode.08:28
se7enActionParsnip: nop sorry08:29
ActionParsnipse7en: I had an old mate who had the same/similar screen name to yours08:29
ActionParsnipse7en: oh well08:29
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ActionParsnipIs there a way to choose apps to install / not install?08:30
ActionParsnipi can uninstall when it is in but figured it'd be more graceful08:31
bazhangnot at this point in time08:31
bazhangunless you do the minimal install08:31
ActionParsnipbazhang: does minimal give me X?08:32
bazhangif you want it :}08:32
ActionParsnipok cool08:32
ActionParsnipjust trying to maximise storage as the system is to be a NAS08:33
Harahuoh by the way this is the thing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Beta/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=color.png I was talking about.08:46
ActionParsnipHarahu: which bit?08:47
ActionParsnipHarahu: do you mean Adept?08:47
HarahuHarahu>Can you (in the universal sense) program the "startbar"-like thing (I have no idea what it is called) on Kubuntu the open like a folder? | the thing clicked.08:48
Harahu"Adept", I am unfamiliar with this term.08:49
ActionParsnipHarahu: so you want the startbar to give a folder view of the apps under each section08:49
ActionParsnipHarahu: so you can click "system" and folder with Adept, Dolphin, kbluetooth etc pops up?08:51
Harahuyes, so I can pick more then one app at a time without it closing first, or does it not do that, like windows startbar button does?08:52
mikedomohi eyi have trouble with 3 D  cube08:52
mikedomoi cant zoom out it08:52
ActionParsnipHarahu: if you right click the menubar does it say open? I'm at work on an XP lappy at the moment so I cant investigate08:53
HarahuI am weird and I become annoyed when it closes in windows.08:53
Harahuoh my, I never in my life new you could do that.08:54
ActionParsnipHarahu: did it work?08:55
Harahuyes, but not all my programs where in it.08:55
ActionParsnipmikedomo: not sure. let me google08:55
Harahu(note I am still run WinXP, the Kubuntu is not Dled yet)08:56
ActionParsnipHarahu: can you add to what you now see?08:57
se7enhow do i cd to a samba (xp) box from the terminal08:57
mikedomook08:57
ActionParsnipmikedomo: you could restart beryl :)08:58
mikedomowell i use compizfusion08:58
HarahuOh I just cliked open allusers and everything was there, hmm weird.08:58
mikedomonot beryl08:58
ActionParsnipse7en: http://cri.ch/linux/docs/sk0001.html08:59
ActionParsnipHarahu: oh you are wanting help in XP. This is KUbuntu chat09:00
HarahuNo, I was using that as a way to ask a Kubuntu question.09:00
ActionParsnipHarahu: ok I know what you mean. could run it from konsole09:01
HarahuI dislike window, hence the Kubuntu download.09:01
ActionParsnipHarahu: e.g. $ firefox; kate09:02
[ifr0g]!pdf09:02
ubotupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)09:02
HarahuAP: Oh, what does that do?09:02
mikedomoi will like watch 3 d cube far in the center of screen09:04
ActionParsnipmikedomo: change your zoom level in beryl-config09:05
mikedomoi use compiz fusion09:05
mikedomowhere is that option09:06
ActionParsnipmikedomo: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Plugins/Ezoom09:06
mikedomothanks09:06
ActionParsnipmikedomo: np :D09:06
mikedomonot work09:10
[ifr0g]Quick, whats the pdf creation program called ?09:10
mikedomoi will like rotate the 3 D cube far09:10
mikedomozoom out09:11
daffytheduckhi im after some repo's for vmware can anyone help thnx09:11
mikedomoi dont know help me09:11
daffytheduckwhats your problem09:11
mikedomowell09:12
mikedomoifews hours i intalled compizfusion09:12
mikedomoand i  make great effects09:12
mikedomobut the 3 D cube i cant make it because i cant zoom out09:13
mikedomofor watch it completly09:13
pacmanis the new version of kubuntu available via apt-get install?09:13
daffytheduckdid u try ctrl +alt and the move the mouse on the desktop09:14
mikedomommm09:14
daffytheduckctrl+alt and drag the mouse accross the Desktop09:15
daffytheducksudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:15
daffytheduckor b4 u do that upgrade09:15
mikedomoyeah works only09:15
mikedomoi have a problme09:15
mikedomoi am in the cube09:16
daffytheduckok09:16
daffytheduckyour view is from inside the cube09:16
mikedomoi will like to staye out09:16
mikedomoyes09:16
daffytheduckok09:16
daffytheduckthere are settings there for that09:16
daffytheduckbut youll have to hunt them down09:16
xanax`hello09:16
daffytheducki dont have compiz here at the moment so i cant really help09:17
daffytheduckbut i know what your talking about and Ive done it from the settings09:17
mikedomowell i think use beryl09:17
daffytheduckberyl is old09:17
pacmanE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)09:17
pacmanE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?09:17
daffytheduckanyway I need some repos for vmware can anyone help09:18
ActionParsnippacman you need sudo for that09:18
xanax`I installed vmware player 2 and I run kubuntu 7.10 as guest OS (I found the appliance here : http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/ ) but I don't know what is the root password. Can someone help me find it out ?09:18
ActionParsnipdaffytheduck: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-from-canonical-commercial-repository-in-ubuntu-feisty.html09:19
daffytheduckthnx :))))09:19
pacmanstill getting the same error, action....the first time I did that was under sudo bash09:19
ActionParsnipdaffytheduck: has the repo deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main09:19
ActionParsnippacman: what command are you running?09:19
pacmanapt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:20
daffytheduckyeah i noticed should i replace feisty with gutsy09:21
daffytheducksee if it updates ok09:21
ActionParsnippacman: you will need to do sudo for that command09:21
pacmanas sudo bash?09:21
ActionParsnipdaffytheduck: try it :D09:21
ActionParsnippacman: run konsole as user then sudo the command09:21
pacmanstill same error09:22
ActionParsnippacman: I would advise never running any app as root like that09:22
ActionParsnippacman: do you have adept open?09:22
daffytheducknope09:22
daffytheduck:(09:22
pacmanI did, and it says I have the newest version09:22
pacmanhowever, I'm on 7.0409:23
ActionParsnipdaffytheduck: http://igordevlog.blogspot.com/2007/07/vmware-in-ubuntu-gutsy-kernel-2622.html09:23
ActionParsnippacman: so are you trying to upgrade to gutsy??09:23
pacmanyes09:23
mikedomottahanks y resolve that09:23
ActionParsnippacman: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading has a link for upgrading KUbuntu as well09:25
pacmancan you PM me, action?09:26
schistepacman reinstall everything09:27
xanax`Can someone help me find out what is the root password for these (k)ubuntu vmware appliances ?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Player09:27
schisteIt's the only flawless method09:27
ActionParsnippacman: if you follow that walkthrough you should be ok09:28
pacmanwell, it won't let me talk back to you, action09:28
Lynourexanax`: probably still no root, just sudo. I don't know, but I'd try  kubuntu  first09:28
ActionParsnippacman: weird, anyway that walkthrough seems ok. You could download the CD and wang it in your CD drive and upgrade that way09:29
pacmanyeah, I put a new HD in, and only have 7.04 on disk09:30
pacmanmight as well upgrade since I have to set everything up anyhow09:31
ActionParsnippacman: try the site I sent. Should be ok09:32
pacmanit's working now09:32
ActionParsnippacman: or google for upgrade to gutsy09:32
ActionParsnippacman: awesome :D09:32
pacmanis wlassistant not available anymore?09:33
pacmanor do I need to enable other repositories09:33
ActionParsnippacman: not sure man. just wait and see what you get after the update and go from there09:37
pacmanit's done?09:37
pacmanthat's it?09:37
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ActionParsnippacman: yeah pretty much09:38
pacmanthat was fast09:39
pacmanthought it was gonna take an hour09:39
ActionParsnippacman: depends what apps you have installed09:40
pacmanI didn't have anything09:40
pacmanI literally just hooked up my new HD and installed 7.06 onto it09:41
pacmanthen installed everything in that link09:41
ActionParsnippacman: then you have very little to update09:41
pacmanhmm09:42
ActionParsnippacman: try a system reboot to test09:45
pacmanokay, brb09:45
serishemai'm wondering why my battery life on my ibook g4 is so short under kubuntu as compared to under mac os x. With kpowermanager set to "power save" I only get about 2 hours, compared to 4 under mac os x.09:46
MilitantPotato.Xauthority should be owned by me right?09:49
timriMilitantPotato: yes09:49
MilitantPotatoAwsome.09:49
MilitantPotatoThat was a huge headache.09:49
MilitantPotatosomehow it was owned by root, so kdesudo aswell as the majority of the things in the K menu wouldn't load.09:50
MilitantPotatoi had to use sudo and gksudo to open them09:50
timriMilitantPotato: NEVER use sudo and gui apps.09:50
ActionParsnipMilitantPotato: sudo chown should help :)09:50
MilitantPotatoActionParsnip: that's exactly what I did, worked like a charm09:51
MilitantPotatotimri: yea, never do, not sure why I mentioned sudo09:51
timriMilitantPotato: Anyway, you should probably also sudo chown 0600 .Xauthority09:51
pacmanActionParsnip: I'm back09:51
MilitantPotatoinstead of chown jason:jason ?09:51
timriMilitantPotato: No, that also09:51
MilitantPotatowill do.09:51
ActionParsnippacman: all good?09:52
ActionParsniptimri: why not use sudo for gui apps?09:52
pacmanI guess...how do I tell which version I'm on?09:52
MilitantPotatoSomething about GUI aps needing access to the X server09:52
timriActionParsnip: It can mess up the ownership of some of your configfiles09:53
MilitantPotatohow would I make sure all the files in my home directory are properly owned by me?09:53
MilitantPotatoI ran sudo chown -hR jason:jason /home/jason09:54
MilitantPotatois that enough?09:54
ActionParsnippacman: cat /etc/issue09:54
ActionParsnippacman: ?09:54
timriMilitantPotato: Thats a very bad idea09:54
pacmanhmm, still 7.0409:54
MilitantPotatoArgh.09:54
MilitantPotatotimri: bad enough I should re-install?09:55
timriMilitantPotato: Nah, but you might run into minor security problems. Like adept_managerrc  should be root.root09:56
timriMilitantPotato: That one is in ~/.kde/share/config btw09:56
ActionParsnippacman: googling...sec09:56
MilitantPotatoI don't have that file09:57
MilitantPotato have adept_installerrc09:57
timriMilitantPotato: Well, of course not, or you would not have been able to take ownership :)09:57
ActionParsnippacman $ kdesu update-manager -c09:57
timriMilitantPotato: Thought of that just a little too late :)09:58
sFEARshello09:58
MilitantPotatotimri: any other files I should de-own?09:59
timriOne sec.09:59
WaltzingAlongsome programs will work fine with sudo GUIapp; some will not; rather than make a list, remembering each, follow the general rule: kdesu/kdesudo GUIapp    but    sudo CLIapp       regardless of where it is started (alt+f2 or konsole)09:59
MilitantPotatoWhat does CLI stand for?10:00
pacmanI just sprayed my g/f's ass with a can of compressed air10:01
WaltzingAlongMilitantPotato: command line interface10:02
niels_ubotu: !adept fix10:02
MilitantPotatopacman: i gave my wife a scar from compressed air, frost bit her.10:02
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »10:02
MilitantPotatoNeedless to say I never play with compressed air around her :(10:03
timriprocessing...10:03
jamesarthurHelp! i just installed kubuntu 7.10 and am stuck at 640x480,,,, how do i change to 1024x768?10:03
MilitantPotatotimri: I hope my request wasn't to much of a pain10:04
BenjaminDhello, i am new to linux. i have install kubuntu. I would like to get compiz or beryl running. I have an old laptop with ATI graphics card.. Is there a way i can find out if i have a composite manager running or installed alredy?10:04
pacmanit does warn against frostbite10:04
timriMilitantPotato: not at all, just found out I had mounted some samba shares under ~, so grep takes a while :)10:04
WaltzingAlongjamesarthur: it may help to provide /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf    to !pastebin10:05
timriMilitantPotato: Anyway, it looks like I exaggerated when I said "very bad idea", sorry lead you on a wild goose chase :)10:05
WaltzingAlongKubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | BenjaminD, follow this10:05
MilitantPotatoWarning labels, bah10:05
MilitantPotatoBenjaminD: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg10:05
WaltzingAlongjamesarthur: you could run, in konsole,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh             to reconfigure X10:05
MilitantPotatowhoa wrong guy10:06
jamesarthurWaltzingAlong: thanks i hope :)10:06
MilitantPotatoBenjaminD: With an ATI card you'll need XGL, or the latest ATI drivers from www.ati.com but that requires building from source and a hand full of xorg.conf modifications10:07
MilitantPotatoBenjaminD: xserver-xgl is the package you'd need.10:07
WaltzingAlongtimri: MilitantPotato     yes for some programs "sudo GUIapp" will use the 'wrong' permissions/rights/account when writing files which later results in the normal user not being able to write to files in /home/user          though some GUIapps will flatout not launch when called from sudo rather than10:07
BenjaminDi had it working on ubuntu with ATI fglrx10:07
WaltzingAlongMilitantPotato: that is true only for the fglrx module before this latest release10:07
BenjaminDbut when i installed xserver-xgl my kubuntu redraw ran VERY slow10:08
WaltzingAlongfglrx ati howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide (for 3d support on older radeon cards, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver for data) | BenjaminD, MilitantPotato10:08
BenjaminD?10:08
ActionParsnipis there a way to make GUI apps not run if executed via sudo?10:08
timriWaltzingAlong: iirc kate has that refusal to run under sudo built-in10:08
MilitantPotatoBenjaminD: you could attempt the new ATI drivers, and see how that works.10:08
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: yes with xserver-xgl especially with compiz not running, X can run very slowly10:08
BenjaminDis there an alternative?10:09
BenjaminDor better way?10:09
timriMilitantPotato: Ok, after the mother of all lousy greps, I conclude you did NOT mess up your system :)10:09
BenjaminDbefore i install compiz now?10:09
MilitantPotatotimri: thank god, I havn't done a backup lately :D10:09
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: if you can use fglrx yes then you can grab the version from the link i sent to you, which is the first fglrx release to work with AIGLX  (so xserver-xgl is not needed)10:09
* timri will never ever try recursive grepping a samba share again :)10:09
ActionParsnipBenjaminD: to run compiz you need 3d acceleration which vesa wont give you10:09
BenjaminDaiglx is an alternative to xgl?10:09
MilitantPotatoXGL allows cards that don't support AIGLX to work10:10
MilitantPotato*drivers10:10
MilitantPotatothe new ATI drivers are far from perfect.10:10
BenjaminDapt-get install compiz wants to install all the gnome librarys??10:11
WaltzingAlongaiglx is accelerate indirect glx10:11
BenjaminDwas trying to avoid that10:11
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WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: compiz was created with gnome in mind. kde has had a composite manager already and kde4 will include its own with similar effects to that of compiz10:11
BenjaminDso am i better to not worry about compiz then?10:12
BenjaminDlaptop is oldish..10:12
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: as you like really10:12
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: which video card?10:12
BenjaminDati x30010:12
BenjaminD64mb10:12
MilitantPotatoping10:15
BenjaminDso kde4 is coming soon?10:15
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: december. you would need to use the open source 'radeon' module/driver for 3d accel with that card             https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver10:15
BenjaminDfglrx ?10:16
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: fglrx is for newer ATI/amd cards10:16
BenjaminDi had compiz working on ubuntu before with fglrx10:17
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: yes fglrx will not work with your card anyway10:17
daffytheduckcan i get compiz working with the nv driver10:17
daffytheduckor do i need nvidia10:18
timriBenjaminD: Re: your question about "kde4 coming soon", you might want to ask that in #kde (better don an asbestos coat though)10:18
daffytheducklol10:18
WaltzingAlongdaffytheduck: you need 3d accel which nv does not provide as far as i know10:18
daffytheduckok10:19
daffytheducki thought so10:19
daffytheduckcan i install nvidia from the repos or do i have to get it from nvidia10:19
WaltzingAlong!nvidia | daffytheduck, either or10:20
ubotudaffytheduck, either or: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:20
daffytheduckthnx10:20
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: as far as i know 'radeon' works with your video card, not 'fglrx'; using 'ati' should call the radeon module for supported devices. check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for data about how that went10:21
BenjaminDthanks, i dont want to change drivers just this minute. im meant to be studying. i will follow that tutorial you sent before a little later10:22
BenjaminDradeon should work better than fglrx yes?10:22
MilitantPotatoI got this in terminal while running kate: DCOP Cleaning up dead connections.  kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 1110:22
daffytheduckcan i get a sources.list with fast mirrors all i seem to be getting is everything at 11kbps :((10:23
MilitantPotatoBenjaminD: stick with the radeon drivers :)10:24
sFEARsi upgraded to 7.10 and have multiple options in my boot menu... RT, Generic, & Low Latency... Generic & Low Latench boot fine but when i pick RT which i think is Real Time it hangs on the very end of the boot process.  Any ideas?10:24
daffytheduck!compiz10:28
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion10:28
se7enwhat is the different between system;/ and /media/ and how can i get to system:/ from the terminal10:32
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emilsedghse7en: media:/ is just storage media, like hard disc and dvd/cd and...10:33
WaltzingAlongdaffytheduck: build your own using the list at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors10:33
emilsedghse7en: system:/ contains applications:/, media:/, settings:/ and....10:33
emilsedghse7en: and they are just accessible by KDE, not terminal and even Gnome apps10:33
WaltzingAlongse7en: and as far as i know it is a kio slave which is accessible through kde10:34
se7enok how to i get to system;/ from the terminal10:34
WaltzingAlongse7en: in konsole, konqueror system:/         :D10:35
se7enhmmmmm ok10:35
WaltzingAlongse7en: otherwise the short answer is you do not10:35
se7enWaltzingAlong: :P10:36
TrAndyKubuntu Gutzy freezes randomly and continuously after first on-line default update. Before update it works  OK indefinitively. Any solution?10:36
WaltzingAlongTrAndy: actual hardware issue? which kernel? which video module?10:37
se7enWaltzingAlong: i have smbmounted a xp share on /media/xp and would like to set a link from system;/ so /media/xp/10:38
WaltzingAlongse7en: to show up in system:/ ? that i do not know how to do.10:40
TrAndyFeisty (v7.04) worked fine for months. Gutsy is a fresh install, not an upgrade from v7.04. Kernel is the default 2.6.22-14. I've tested it with the precedent 2.6.20.xx from v.7.04 but it freezes anyway. No hw changes.10:41
se7enWaltzingAlong: thanks anyway10:41
Harahuone more minute.10:43
WaltzingAlongTrAndy: so the trick is to find out which module, which piece of hardware; check the logs for any relevant errors10:44
HarahuIt is done. yeah10:45
conaticHi all10:46
TrAndyWaltzingAlong:ok, I'll look at the logs. The strange thing is it works ok if no update is made. I don't see any module/kernel related updates in this updates.10:47
WaltzingAlongTrAndy: yes strange though not enough for me to know what is the cause or remedy;10:47
Zombocomhelp10:48
ZombocomI need to upgrade10:48
WaltzingAlongZombocom: with?10:48
TrAndyWaltzingAlong:will turn back after examining the logs and the updates content. Thanks!10:49
Zombocommy system went to hell so I tried reinstalling linux but I only had the 7.04 cd10:49
WaltzingAlongTrAndy: thanks to you10:49
ZombocomI want to upgrade to 7.1010:49
Zombocomhow do I do so10:49
WaltzingAlongZombocom: from 7.04 to 7.10? follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade10:49
Zombocomthank you waltzing10:51
Zombocomhow do I uninstall strigi?10:53
MilitantPotatoThanks again for the help guys10:54
zhenyahi10:58
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zhenyaКто здесь из России???10:59
Tm_T!ru | zhenya10:59
ubotuzhenya: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke10:59
HarahuSo how do I run in as a live CD?11:03
Harahu(Are people in here speaking Russian?)11:03
GuHHHhey, about mail listing services... whats the most simple to configure, mailman or majordomo?11:05
B4S3Mi got a problem ... when kubuntu boots it keep fillin this blue bar ... after filling it shows me the bar again and stop there11:15
B4S3Mhaaalllo11:17
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WaltzingAlongB4S3M: remove 'splash' and 'quiet' in the grub list so you can see what is going on. otherwise try the recovery entry; how: restart, after bios grub will be presented. press esc to see the menu. find the entry you are using (likely first one in the list); press e for edit; arrow to the right of the line, then remove splash and quiet (if they exist); press enter; press b to boot11:17
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WaltzingAlong!ops | user_11:18
ubotuuser_: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!11:18
HarahuI cannot run Kubuntu, please help.11:20
BenjaminDI changed from flgrx to open source radeon and i seem to have more features in KDE (transparency etc). glrx tells me i am using SGI. But my 3d Open GL screen savers run very slow11:23
BenjaminD?11:23
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B4S3MWaltzingAlong .... how can i run the KDM again ?11:26
WaltzingAlongB4S3M: what do you mean? where are you? sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart        ?11:26
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: check the X log /var/log/Xorg.0.log for relevant data11:26
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: in konsole, glxinfo | grep -i direct                  yes or no?11:27
kak[ZzZ]ohayou gozaimasu11:28
B4S3MWaltzingAlong .... i need to run Kubuntu with interfacing not in command line11:29
HarahuWhat do I click on to run it as a live CD?11:29
HarahuDo I have to restart first?11:29
WaltzingAlongHarahu: just put the desktop/live cd in the drive, start the computer. should boot from the cd (if bios is set accordingly) then so forth11:30
WaltzingAlongB4S3M: yes but you were telling me that the loading process was not getting that far11:30
Harahuwhat is the file name?11:30
WaltzingAlongHarahu: the file name of what; what are you attempting to do?11:31
BenjaminDno11:31
BenjaminDno direct rendering?11:31
WaltzingAlong!pastebin | BenjaminD, paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log contents here11:31
Harahurun iot as a live cd.11:31
ubotuBenjaminD, paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log contents here: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:31
WaltzingAlongHarahu: download the desktop cd image. burn the iso as a cd. restart the computer. if bios is set to attempt to boot from the cd, then the livecd should start.11:32
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: direct rendering is 3d accel in hardware11:32
HarahuI have no burner. (I am sorry I know little of computers.)11:33
BenjaminDhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44715/11:33
WaltzingAlongHarahu: without a burner. ok then you should ask a friend to burn one for you or order a free one from shipit11:34
HarahuMy parent have a burner.11:35
HarahuI shall do it on there computer.11:35
HarahuI was going to network to there computer and make backup any way.11:36
Harahuoh does a DVD have to be a "special" DVD to burn data to it?11:37
Harahu(other then writable that is)11:37
WaltzingAlongHarahu: the dvd version can be both 'run live' and installed without running live. it also contains more packages11:37
B4S3MWaltzingAlong .... i have now a command line ... hence the problem is with KDE .... how can i fix or even how can i know it ?11:38
WaltzingAlongB4S3M: it may be kde or it may be X, among other possibilities. check the X log first; less /var/log/Xorg.0.log          scroll looking for lines starting with (EE) which mark errors11:39
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: mind pasting the /etc/X11/xorg.conf as well11:39
HarahuNo, I mean a DVD, not the DVD version of Kubuntu.I wanted burn Kubuntu to one DVD and all the data on my computer to another for a back-up.11:40
BenjaminDhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44716/11:40
B4S3MWaltzingAlong ok 2 error .... failed to load module fglrx and No drivers available11:42
WaltzingAlongB4S3M: ok. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh                         then in the list of drivers pick either          ATI             or              vesa11:43
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: the log shows that dri would be disabled; check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44717/ to add the modules to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. you could do the same through sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh11:43
Harahu(I know my DVD answer now. sorry for asking.)11:43
BenjaminDwhich models am i adding sorry?11:45
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: the modules section, you could enable all, but mostly dri and glx11:46
BenjaminDsection modules up top11:46
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BenjaminDgot it11:46
BenjaminDwill try now11:46
MidMarkI have a process that take 100%, but top doesn't show it, how can I do?11:47
ActionParsniphi all11:47
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BenjaminDrestarting..11:47
WaltzingAlongMidMark: ksysguard or htop or ps aux | grep -i nameofapprunningat100percent11:49
ljahdasdWaltzingAlong ... it gives me warning .... overwriting  possiby-customised configuration file backup in /location....11:50
MidMarkksysguard is the same as top, doesn't show the process11:51
JohnFluxMidMark: in top, what does it say your load it?11:51
JohnFluxthe top right 3 numbers11:51
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B4S3MWaltzingAlong ... it gives me warning .... overwriting  possiby-customised configuration file backup in /location....11:52
MidMarkjhutchins: sorry top shows it... say xorg 76%11:52
JohnFluxheh11:52
WaltzingAlongB4S3M: ok, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart           to restart kdm11:52
MidMarkbut the question is: the abnormal cpu started before evenb starts kdm11:53
MidMarkat very beginning of the kernel loading11:53
sirjoshimushi there, i just install the metapackage ubuntustudio-audio11:53
MidMarkso why xorg?11:53
sirjoshimusbut just to check it out11:53
sirjoshimusand now that i want it gone, it wont get rid of everything it installed11:53
blenbbis there a guide for notebooks how to activate powersaving stuff?11:53
sirjoshimussuch as sudo apt-get remove ubuntustudio-audio11:53
BenjaminDWaltzingAlong got your prv-msg, still no direct rendering..11:53
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sirjoshimusit leaves everything it installed, which is a plethora of odd packages11:54
BenjaminDWaltzingAlong: after adding modules to xorg, i lost transluceny... :S11:54
contrast83blenbb: "sudo apt-get install kpowersave" might be a good start... What exactly are you trying to do?11:54
WaltzingAlongsirjoshimus: perhaps through autoremove in apt-get11:54
B4S3Mthx WaltzingAlong ... owe u :)11:54
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: how about the new log to pastebin11:55
WaltzingAlongB4S3M: which module did you pick? ati or vesa?              if you are on gutsy and want fglrx  you could install it through the restricted manager11:55
BenjaminDcmd again?11:55
sirjoshimusWaltzingAlong: it still leaves all the metapackage contents11:56
sirjoshimusits very annoying, its sloppy work11:56
WaltzingAlongsirjoshimus: i typically use aptitude11:56
WaltzingAlong!aptitude | sirjoshimus11:56
sirjoshimusWaltzingAlong: whats the difference?11:56
ubotusirjoshimus: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide11:56
blenbbcontrast83: I would like to save battery :)11:56
B4S3MWaltzingAlong i didnt pick any ... :S lol11:57
magicalmooseHey, I have a problem. I'm currently trying to install a game with a tar.gz extension.11:57
magicalmooseand i can't get past the ./configure part11:58
MidMarkJohnFlux: shut down xorg doesn't help in fact11:58
contrast83blenbb: kpowersave :-)11:58
MidMarknow 1% us, 2 sys11:58
BenjaminDWaltzingAlong: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44720/11:58
MidMarkbut fan and cpu are @ 100%11:59
JohnFluxMidMark: fun11:59
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: perhaps you need to set the AGPGART in according to the radeon page i have sent11:59
JohnFluxMidMark: reboot ? :-)11:59
contrast83That'll let you set up a custom profile for when you're running on battery.11:59
* contrast83 loathes the kde-guidance-powermanager applet.11:59
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B4S3Many idea how to have a Verilogger on kubuntu ?12:00
MidMarkJohnFlux: yeah, but sometimes the problem reappears12:00
blenbbhmm my laptop has 1024 mb ram, but free shows only: 905216. Kubuntu has highmem support i hope!12:00
WaltzingAlongblenbb: is your video card using some of that?12:01
contrast83Doesn't the video card only use system memory if you specifically set it up that way in your xorg.conf?12:01
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD:  also in konsole, LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo                     then pastebin those results12:02
BenjaminDif i add Virtual, do i put "1026x768" in quotes or     1024 768   like instructions?12:02
WaltzingAlongcontrast83: i was thinking of the intergrated video interfaces that have no dedicated RAM but use only main system RAM12:02
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: like in the instructions12:03
contrast83WaltzingAlong: Right, that's what I'm referring to.12:03
WaltzingAlongcontrast83: and in that case i do not know if xorg.conf allows one to manage the system ram available to the video interface12:03
contrast83It does. :-)12:04
contrast83Under the Device section, you just put in a line like VideoRAM "65536"12:04
WaltzingAlongcontrast83: ok to minimize it but not possible to put it to 012:05
contrast83I'm pretty sure it defaults to 0, i.e., if you don't have a line like that there.12:05
JohnFluxMidMark: kill the programs one by one until the cpu drops?12:06
contrast83On my old laptop that had an integrated Intel, I couldn't even play 640x480 videos until I put that line in, so I'm pretty sure it just wasn't using any system RAM.12:06
JohnFluxMidMark: then you can find out which is the program12:06
WaltzingAlongcontrast83: oh, i see, interesting12:08
WaltzingAlongthanks for the update12:08
contrast83np12:08
contrast83Does anyone here play Frets on Fire? It performs *horribly* on Gutsy for me, played fine in Feisty on the same machine. :-\12:08
renzosi12:09
WaltzingAlongvideoRAM: This optional entry specifies the amount of video ram that is installed on the graphics board. This is measured in kBytes. In most cases this is not required because the Xorg server probes the graphics board to determine this quantity. The driver-specific documentation should indicate when it might be needed.        so seems in your case it may have been using some already just not enough?12:11
contrast83maybe12:13
BenjaminDWaltzingAlong: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44723/12:13
BenjaminDadded GART12:13
BenjaminDand virtual desktop12:13
BenjaminDtransparency still gone12:14
BenjaminD:S12:14
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: now that one shows direct rendering yes12:14
BenjaminDshit it did too12:15
BenjaminDjust looking now12:15
BenjaminDwhat abou tlibGL warinigns?12:15
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: what was giving transparency before? system settings/window behavior/translucency?12:15
BenjaminDyeah12:16
BenjaminDmy opengl screen savers work better now12:16
BenjaminD:)12:16
BenjaminDid really love to get a window manager similar to beryl/compiz12:16
BenjaminDbut continue with kde12:17
nick_Hey everyone, I have a dual boot question.  I installed windows after linux and it overrode my boot loader.  So, went back in Linux and re-overrode the bootloader so now it boots into Linux, but I want to make it a dual boot machine.  I nanoed into menu.lst but I didn't see Windows on the list  What should I do?12:18
WaltzingAlongnick_: if your system still has ms windows recovery may be as easy as adding a few lines, a new entry, to menu.lst12:18
nick_WaltzingAlong: Ok, I have this information so far...or at least I thougth I was looking for this, "Title of operating syste (new line) rootnoverify (hd0,0) (new line) make active (new line) chainloader +1"12:20
nick_But I didn't know if I was supposed to add that or find it12:20
WaltzingAlongnick_: is windows sitting on hd0,0? sda1 or hda1 ? sure you could manually add to that file12:20
BenjaminDNo diversion `any diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1', none removed12:20
nick_WaltzingAlong: I have forgotten the find command...where should I put that in to find that information?12:22
WaltzingAlong/boot/grub/menu.lst12:22
nick_It says I have 3 Ubuntu installations, generic, recovery and memtest+8612:24
WaltzingAlong!grub | nick_, may be helpful to start here12:24
ubotunick_, may be helpful to start here: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:24
BenjaminDWaltzingAlong: that worked!12:25
BenjaminDWaltzingAlong: thank you very much12:25
nick_WaltzingAlong: all of them are are hd0,112:25
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: cheers!12:25
WaltzingAlongnick_: check the grub manual, there is a section on booting to dos/windows         http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/DOS_002fWindows.html#DOS_002fWindows12:26
nick_WaltzingAlong: So there's this one other small problem, I can't display webpages in Linux, for some reason my isp will only display webpages on Windows...it's been a long find and I still don't have the answer12:26
nick_WaltzingAlong: That's why I installed Windows again12:26
nick_fight not find*12:26
WaltzingAlongnick_: interesting; so you need at least to know which drive and partition contains ms windows12:28
nick_WaltzingAlong: Ok, wait, I got it to load in conquerer...lucky, this was the page that I was working from earlier12:29
WaltzingAlongyeah first guess on that is misconfigured proxy settings, nick_12:29
nick_WaltzingAlong: That seems to be the best bet, my guess is a transparent proxy because sometimes it will work, and then without touching any other settings it will stop, and all other internet services work, and my roommate has a mac and the same problems, but all my flatmates have windows and no problems12:30
nick_WaltzingAlong: Ok, I'm not understanding what's going on, I'm typing gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and nothign is happening, it is just returning me to the prompt12:32
WaltzingAlongkdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst ?12:33
nick_That did it12:33
nick_Same thing I was looking at when I nanoed into it, still no windows on the list12:34
nick_Can we use process of elimination to tell where Windows is?  or is there another way to find it?12:34
WaltzingAlongnick_: you need to add the entry for ms windows to the list. sure qtparted could show you details about the disks/partitions/filesystems12:36
BenjaminDWaltzingAlong: would i be silly to install xglserver now i have my ati drivers working fine?12:38
nick_WaltzingAlong: So, I just need to know what the number after hd is (like in the example on the webpage hd0,0) plug in the lines and reboot?12:38
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: :D now you have the opensource 3d drivers for some ati cards working ... if it were my system, i would keep that part as it is (skipping on xserver-xgl)12:38
BenjaminDi was thinking that12:39
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: but you could investigate how to get transparency/translucency back12:39
BenjaminDno no, my transparency is back12:39
BenjaminDand opengl works12:39
WaltzingAlongoh!12:39
BenjaminDeverything is running sweet12:39
nick_Found it, "01 /dev/sda1 ntfs"12:40
BenjaminDi would like to get beryl/compiz though.. can i use with the setup i have now (AIGLX is it?) ?12:40
BenjaminDim happy not to12:40
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: aiglx currently, yes. try it out (compiz-fusion)12:40
BenjaminDthanks12:40
BenjaminDthat will still install all the gnome files yes?12:41
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: yes12:41
BenjaminDi think ill pass12:41
WaltzingAlongKubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | BenjaminD, instructions here12:42
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: :D ok12:42
BenjaminDis there an alternative app?12:42
BenjaminDor is installing the gnome stuff not that bad?12:42
WaltzingAlongBenjaminD: try it out. install it through aptitude    (sudo aptitude install <package> ) so you can easily remove it should you wish12:43
BenjaminDthanks again12:43
obiajfhm12:45
nick_WaltzingAlong: So, I add those lines under the three ubuntu entries yes?12:46
WaltzingAlongnick_: yes12:46
nick_WaltzingAlong: Awesome, thank you so much for the help12:46
WaltzingAlongnick_: well we will see how well that works ;)12:46
nick_If I'm back in 15 minutes you'll know :)12:47
MarcoPauhello, where do I disable automount?12:58
timriWaltzingAlong: "<nick_> If I'm back in 15 minutes you'll know :)" uh oh.... :)13:02
WaltzingAlongtimri: maybe he was rounding?13:09
timriWaltzingAlong: :)13:09
WaltzingAlongor made it back in 5 minutes so decided not to let me know13:09
toshi1updates packet13:13
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thylioHow can i get my soundcard working?  Kubuntu doesent seem to find it.13:19
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OldtokerFinally I seem to have gotten a good download of kubuntu..13:20
Oldtokerwow. took long enough :)13:21
MidMarkthylio: which one?13:21
WaltzingAlong!sound | thylio13:21
ubotuthylio: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP313:21
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Oldtoker!libdecss |Oldtoker13:24
Oldtokerhummm :(13:24
ScorpKingOldtoker: !bla > you13:25
Oldtokeryea he didn't know anything about it13:25
Oldtoker:)13:25
Oldtoker!playingdvds |Oldtoker13:25
ScorpKingwhat do you want to know?13:26
Oldtokerdoesn't seem to know anything about that either.13:26
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Oldtokerjust where to get libdecss for kubuntu13:26
ScorpKingcodecs?13:26
Oldtokerthe library that lets you watch commerical dvd's in linux..13:27
Oldtokerit de-scrambles the css protection scheme13:27
ScorpKingah i see.13:27
llutzOldtoker: libdvdcss213:27
WaltzingAlong!info libdvdcss213:27
ubotuPackage libdvdcss2 does not exist in gutsy13:27
thylioWaltzingAlong: Have allready done that. When i try to play mp3 files in xmms, it states that maybe another program is blocking the sound card (or somthing like that13:28
WaltzingAlong!medibuntu | Oldtoker13:28
ubotuOldtoker: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org13:28
ScorpKingOldtoker: sudo aptitude search dvd | grep lib13:28
thylioandreas@laptop:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards            --- no soundcard ---13:28
WaltzingAlongthylio: and that may be the case. in konsole, aplay -l         shows your sound card?                 set kde to use alsa       system settings/sound system/hardware then select device alsa13:29
OldtokerWaltzingAlong: thanks for the info13:29
Oldtoker:)13:29
ScorpKingOldtoker: that will show you the available lib packages for dvd ;)13:29
Oldtokeras soon as I'm done installing here.. I will check it out ;)13:29
WaltzingAlong!pastebin | thylio, paste the results of        lspci          (or lsusb if the sound card is usb)13:29
ubotuthylio, paste the results of        lspci          (or lsusb if the sound card is usb): pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)13:29
thylioWaltzingAlong: alsa is selected.13:30
WaltzingAlongthylio: but if aplay -l       shows no cards, a module/driver supporting the soundcard has not been loaded13:31
thylioWaltzingAlong: Here is the paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44729/13:32
WaltzingAlong!intehda13:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intehda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:32
WaltzingAlong!intelhda13:32
ubotuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto13:32
WaltzingAlong!intelhda | thylio, follow this guide13:33
ubotuthylio, follow this guide: please see above13:33
thylioWaltzingAlong: As always, thanks for the help13:33
WaltzingAlongthylio: you probably could skip the part on building the latest alsa, instead skipping to setting the module parameters13:34
thylioWaltzingAlong: Okay;D13:35
MidMarkthylio: install also linux-backports-modules package13:36
MidMarkit's needed because has a newer driver for your soundcard13:36
thylioMidMark:  Will do:)13:36
MidMarkthen you just need to add the model in the file as explained in that link13:37
MidMarkusually acer or toshiba should work13:37
thylio"cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec"   No sutch file or directory13:38
MidMarkthylio: yeah first install the package I said, then reboot13:38
MidMarkthen do the other things13:39
thylioMidMark. Aah Okay;D13:39
MidMarkyour card now doesn't exist so the command is useless13:39
MidMarktill you install properly drivers13:39
thylioMidMark: aah. I see13:40
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thylioWaltzingAlong: Can  u give me the link for the guide again?13:45
WaltzingAlong!intelhda | thylio13:46
ubotuthylio: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto13:46
thyliothx13:46
WaltzingAlongthylio: cat /proc/asound/card0/co         then tab to see the rest; mine was cat /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-013:47
* genii guzzles a coffee13:48
WaltzingAlongthylio: or with cat /proc/asound/card0/codec*/*13:48
* WaltzingAlong has thus far skipped on the mocha for today13:48
genii:)13:49
WaltzingAlonggenii: perhaps coming later!13:49
geniiWaltzingAlong: Need hot beverages here today, it's begun to snow (lightly but it's still snow)13:50
WaltzingAlonggenii: about 2 inches here i think; yeah a bit cold too ;13:50
thylioWaltzingAlong:13:51
thylioandreas@laptop:~$ sudo cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec13:51
thylioCodec: SigmaTel STAC920513:51
thylioCodec: Conexant ID 2c0613:51
geniiHmm problemmatic Conexant stuff again13:51
thylioI can only find the Conexant codec in alsa doc13:52
MidMarkthylio: really13:52
MidMarkuse acer or toshiba will work13:52
MidMarkas model, I had the same problem with another notebook and same ich8 chip13:52
MidMarktry it :)13:52
thylioMidMarc: Hmm. Where do i find the acer/tochiba models then?13:53
MidMarkput options snd-hda-intel model=acer in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base13:53
MidMarkif it doesn't work try with options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba13:53
MidMarkunderstood?13:54
thylioMidMark: Yeah, i'll try it;D13:54
MidMarkyou need to reboot every time AFAIK13:54
thylioAFAIK?13:55
MidMarkAs Far As I Know13:56
timriMidMark: You mean: As Far As I Know IIRC :)13:56
timrithylio: "If I Recall Correctly"13:56
* timri is surprised at the short compile time for konversation13:58
thyliothx ppl, got to  go to bed now, big party tonight :D13:58
MidMarkthylio: at least say us if it have worked!14:01
BluesKajHowdy all :>)14:03
ScorpKinghi BluesKaj14:03
WaltzingAlongrebooting is not necessary but likely much easier than manually unloading then loading the modules14:03
BluesKajhey ScorpKing ...gave up on svn and kde4 ...broken beyond repair ...unbelievable  considering how easily it actually installed14:04
ScorpKinghehe.14:05
BluesKajdefinitely not ready for 64bit gutsy14:05
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Oldtokerhi all14:11
OldtokerI added this to my adept..14:11
Oldtokerbut still can't seem to find the libdcss214:11
Oldtokersudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list14:11
sharkpHi14:11
sharkpI've to compile amarok14:11
sharkpbut configure asked to me kde headers14:12
sharkpwhat shall I do?14:12
BluesKajOldtoker, libdvdcss214:12
sharkpanyone?14:13
OldtokerBluesKaj, doesn't show up..14:13
Oldtokerand I do see the repositories for media sources. loaded... but something is wrong.. I keep geting messages about some packages failing.14:13
Oldtokereither due to bad download or it will break something.14:14
sharkpchecking for KDE... configure: error:14:14
sharkpin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.14:14
sharkpSo, check this please and use another prefix!14:14
sharkpwhat means??14:14
timrisharkp: you need at least  kdebase-dev14:14
sharkpok,I'll try14:14
timrisharkp: But simpler is to just install kde-devel14:15
Oldtokeris there a way I can make it purge it's repositories.. and redownload?14:15
OldtokerIn mandriva it's possible.. Sorry new Convert here :)14:15
sharkptimri, which are the differences?14:15
timrisharkp: That will also pull in the arts dev packages (often necessary)14:16
WaltzingAlongOldtoker: first sudo aptitude update; then        sudo aptitude -f install              shows what?14:16
sharkptimri, now I'm trying with kdebase-dv14:16
timrisharkp: dev14:16
timrisharkp: not dv14:16
OldtokerWaltzingAlong, working.....14:16
sharkptimri, yes yes14:16
sharkpI know...14:16
timri:)14:17
BluesKajsource-o-matic | Oldtoker14:17
BluesKaj!source-o-matic | Oldtoker14:17
ubotuOldtoker: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic14:17
sharkptimri, I want to use new libgpod 6.014:17
sharkpi've installed it14:17
sharkpHave I to do anything with amarok?14:17
timrisharkp: sharkp: I have no idea what libgpod does, nor do I have amarok installed :)14:18
WaltzingAlong!ipod + sharkp14:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ipod + sharkp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:18
WaltzingAlong!ipod | sharkp14:18
ubotusharkp: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod14:18
sharkpoh, ok :)14:18
sharkpWaltzingAlong, is it updated?14:18
sharkp'couse I've a 3rd gen Ipod14:18
OldtokerWaltzingAlong,   ---> http://pastebin.com/d3bbd2f8a14:18
WaltzingAlongOldtoker: adept aptitude apt-get dpkg and so on, only one can have an exclusive lock on the DB at one time; any of those others running? otherwise check !aptfix14:19
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WaltzingAlongsharkp: do not know14:19
timrisharkp: Tip: if you feel more comfortable developing in a IDE (I do), try kdevelop. You can then import other peoples' projects.14:20
KisРусские есть!?14:20
Oldtokerand the output from the other command you wanted me to run14:20
Oldtokerhttp://pastebin.com/m29d3ce7c14:20
timri!ru14:20
ubotuПожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke14:20
OldtokerWaltzingAlong, ok now the error about the DB went away14:21
WaltzingAlongOldtoker: sure need to do those commands when no other application is using the db; ok14:21
OldtokerWaltzingAlong, new info for ya http://pastebin.com/m6618068414:22
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WaltzingAlongOldtoker: default is N but i usually pick Y or I unless i know i modified the file14:23
OldtokerThis is a completely new install14:23
psychoholichello is any one getting weard errors with ap-get14:23
OldtokerJust finished about 10 minsa go14:23
WaltzingAlongOldtoker: give it a Y then14:23
WaltzingAlongpsychoholic: which14:23
psychoholicUnable to save bookmarks in /home/psychoholic/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.14:24
OldtokerWaltzingAlong, http://pastebin.com/m2b9daf1314:24
psychoholicsorry thats the dolfin one i'm getting14:24
Oldtokerso that will have fixed the errors I have now?14:24
timripsychoholic: let me guess, bookmarks.xml does not exist ?14:24
psychoholicyes14:24
timripsychoholic: another guess: You recently ran some GUI app with sudo?14:25
psychoholicbut sp -get is geting one too14:25
psychoholicummm yep14:25
WaltzingAlongOldtoker: ok and now     sudo aptitude install libdvdcss2           , that is the package you wanted from medibuntu right14:25
timripsychoholic: Never EVER use sudo with a gui app. Use kdesu if you must :)14:25
psychoholichmm how14:25
timripsychoholic: ...to solve it ?14:26
jpatricktimri, psychoholic: kdesudo ;)14:26
psychoholicwell i'll google kdesu14:26
ScorpKingkdesudo <app>14:26
timrijpatrick: that's a link to kdesu isn't it?14:26
psychoholicok14:26
WaltzingAlongpsychoholic: so reset the permissions. in konsole, sudo chown psychoholic:psychoholic /home/psychoholic -R14:26
* Oldtoker Bows humbly at the feet of the kubuntu master "WaltzingAlong"14:26
OldtokerLOL14:26
WaltzingAlongOldtoker: haha14:26
timriWaltzingAlong: Heh! It was my turn... grumble :)14:26
* WaltzingAlong passes the torch to timri; ok ok how about teaching him to use sudo CLIapp but kdesu/kdesudo GUIapp ? ;)14:27
psychoholicnow let me see what that ap get error is brb14:27
timriWaltzingAlong: That was NOT a good thing to suggest, though. Some files (even in ~) should remain root.root owned !14:27
OldtokerWaltzingAlong, I just hope I don't become too much of a pest.. being's as I have PTSD and a few other slight problems.. mostly stemming from war.. I tend to get things slower than the average person.. so I'd like to take the opportunity to apologize in advance.14:28
WaltzingAlongtimri: such as? . and .. ? :D14:28
jpatricktimri: yeah, but kdesudo should cause less confusion with new users14:28
timriWaltzingAlong: :)14:28
Oldtokerbut thank you for all your help thus far.14:28
WaltzingAlongOldtoker: for what? are there more questions to come! ah glad to help14:28
ajmoulenactually kdesu is linked to kdesudo on ubuntu not the other way around14:28
timriWaltzingAlong: I think adept wants to store some credentials stuff in ~ sometimes14:28
ajmoulenbut the same still holds I guess14:29
timriajmoulen: Thanks, I took the 50% change I guessed right :)14:29
psychoholicthis is the other error14:29
timriajmoulen: And failed...14:29
psychoholicThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.14:29
WaltzingAlongpsychoholic: in konsole, sudo aptitude -f install              shows what?14:29
ajmoulentimri: it is Friday at least here, so that is okay ;-)14:29
psychoholicevery time i update and install new apps14:30
timriTsk, tsk what will big blue say ...14:30
psychoholicAdept14:30
psychoholicany update or install14:30
ajmoulentimri: if that was too me, they would say get back to work you slouch14:30
timripsychoholic: Adept spits out that generic warning for any number of reasons. Close adept, and try to run sudo aptitude from a konsole window14:31
timriajmoulen: :)14:31
OldtokerOH!!! WaltzingAlong, I had a wierd message about my nvidia driver.. it was trying to do some stuff.. "Restricted Driver manager" or something along those lines.. was trying to do something while the system was updating.. so I don't know if this is using the nvidia driver.. any way I can re-run the restricted driver thingy again?14:31
Oldtokerand yes BTW thingy is a very technical term.. :)14:32
NightBirdquestion... I have a fresh install of fesity kubuntu, but when I pull up the package manager and update the list, it claims that there is a new version available.  If I click on that button, it starts the version upgrade tool, but then it notices that I'm already running Feisty and closes.  How do I fix this?14:32
timripsychoholic: Start konsole with alt+2, then konsole14:32
timripsychoholic: ehh... make that alt+F214:32
psychoholicwell is did some thing14:32
WaltzingAlongOldtoker: sure it is in kmenu/system settings/advanced/restricted drivers14:32
NightBirdI've also tried an apt-get dist-upgrade, and that doesn't do anything14:33
ubuntuPlease help me! I'm using kubuntu live cd, but the partitioner wont resize one partition, what should I do? The partition I want to resize is ntfs.14:33
psychoholici'm in konsol14:33
DaSkreechtimri: The big blue E ?14:33
psychoholicright now and i used the sudo command14:33
timriDaSkreech: No some former typewriter manufacturer ... :)14:33
ajmoulenHEY!14:33
WaltzingAlongNightBird: feisty is 7.04 and gutsy is 7.10, so yes there is a dist upgrade for feisty to gutsy14:33
timripsychoholic: ok, run sudo aptitude and tell me what it says14:33
DaSkreechtimri: oh THE big blue14:33
timriajmoulen: hehe :)14:33
NightBirdWaltzingAlong: er... right, I'm running gutsy....14:34
Oldtokerunder k menu / system... that's as far as I get.. the settings is missing?14:34
DaSkreechajmoulen: You take offence to typewriters?14:34
WaltzingAlongtimri: sudo aptitude will run the ncurses interface14:34
psychoholicbunch of stuff and this14:34
Oldtokerif that's possible14:34
psychoholic     D     : show the differences between the versions14:34
psychoholic      Z     : background this process to examine the situation14:34
psychoholic The default action is to keep your current version.14:34
psychoholic*** qt_plugins_3.3rc (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?14:34
ubuntuPlease help me! I'm using kubuntu live cd, but the partitioner wont resize one partition, what should I do? The partition I want to resize is ntfs. Please help!14:34
ajmoulenubuntu: you may need to consider another partitioning tool14:34
psychoholicwhat sould i type14:34
psychoholicn14:34
WaltzingAlongNightBird: that is a known issue. fixed within updates so you should grab the updates, upgrade to them14:34
DaSkreechubuntu: try gparted14:34
WaltzingAlongpsychoholic: Y or I14:34
ubuntuajmoulen: I'll try the qtparted14:34
timripsychoholic: Ah, that one. Press Y14:34
psychoholicI will go I14:34
ajmoulenubuntu: what error do you get?14:34
ajmoulenit is likely you have data at the end of the drive it can't move14:35
BluesKajubuntu, download and burn GParted Live CD partition editor. It's a bootable live cd which will edit your partitons and it's easy to use14:35
ubuntuno error, the resizing just stucks in 0%14:35
NightBirdWaltzingAlong: what do you mean I should grab the updates?  is there a new cd I need to download or something?14:35
* timri already harrassed ridell about that qt3 package thingy.14:35
ubuntuBluesKaj: can I burn it on dvd?14:35
ajmoulenubuntu: I would suggest uing BluesKaj suggestion14:35
ubuntubut can I burn it on dvd? I'm out of cds14:35
ajmoulenDaSkreech: nothing against typewriters14:36
BluesKajubuntu, data dvd should work yes14:36
WaltzingAlongNightBird: no i just meant through adept manager, update sources list, install any upgrades; or from konsole, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade14:36
psychoholicok umm does this install a few programs or just the one you said kdesu14:36
ubuntuokay14:36
DaSkreechajmoulen: Ok Just checking on the Hey response :)14:36
ubuntuBluesKaj: I'll do that14:36
BluesKajcool:)14:36
psychoholicit is done14:36
DaSkreechgenii: Coffee?14:36
ubuntugparted live cd14:36
ubuntubrb14:36
timripsychoholic: This does not install anything. This was just an update that got stuck some days ago.14:36
psychoholicahhh i c14:36
ajmoulenDaSkreech: oh I still say hey about the comment that they are just former typewriter makers, but I guess it is true14:37
OldtokerWaltzingAlong, NVM... I found it now..14:37
timripsychoholic: When aptitude has finished you should again be able to use adept if you want14:37
Oldtokerit's working.14:37
Oldtokerthanks again14:37
psychoholiccool so now i can use adept14:37
WaltzingAlongOldtoker: sure thing!14:37
DaSkreechajmoulen: My Mom has a IBM typewriter14:37
psychoholiccool thanks14:37
* genii hands DaSkreech a large mug of coffee14:37
ajmoulenDaSkreech: cool14:37
* timri Fell in love with the p75 (with plasma screen)14:37
OldtokerWell it's time for bed for me.. I'm tired.. just got home from work..14:37
* DaSkreech does his usual tricks to get himself to stomach coffee and takes a sip14:37
Oldtoker:)14:37
psychoholici might just idle here awhile14:38
OldtokerTTYL14:38
geniiDaSkreech: :014:38
psychoholicThanks To Every One!!!!!!!!!!!14:38
timripsychoholic: you could also run "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" to update your system now :)14:38
psychoholichmm ok i can do that....14:39
NightBirdit still thinks there is a version upgrade available14:39
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cucohi, i need some help with compiz. for some reason my "cude" has only 2 sides and not "4"14:39
psychoholicdo i need to do that often or will it work in adept?14:40
timripsychoholic: The updater from adept will do it automatically for you14:40
ajmoulencuco: in the configuration window you need to add more desktops14:41
psychoholicwell i ran that last one you sent me do i need to restart14:41
timripsychoholic: You see it after you logon: the green round thing next to the clock.14:41
psychoholicor just run adept14:41
WaltzingAlongKubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | cuco, check the wiki for the CUBE how to - or in the compiz channel14:41
cucoajmoulen: i did that. in general serrings.14:41
timripsychoholic: No need to restart, you're ready and done :)14:41
psychoholicsweet thanks14:41
ajmoulencuco: so under the k menu, go to settings, then Advanced Desktop Effects Settings14:41
ajmoulenthen in General Options14:42
cucoajmoulen: i am running that application.14:42
ajmoulenDesktop Size14:42
cucoajmoulen: and I horizontal size to 2, vertical 2, and number of desktop 414:42
ajmoulenHorizontal Size 4, Vertical Size 1, Number of Desktops 114:42
ajmoulenwill make a normal cube14:42
ajmoulenthe way you have it now you need to go up not just over14:43
ajmoulenyour cube is 2 sided14:43
ajmoulenbut 2 high14:43
timriFor those young ones that have never seen an IBM  p75 before: http://www.starekompy.pl/p70.html14:43
ehird_anyone know where kde stores its sessions? mine crashes when restoring it so i want to rm it14:44
* timri will now move to #kubuntu-offtopic14:44
TheGateKeeper!irssi14:44
ubotuIrssi is a terminal based IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help.14:44
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ehird_:| it's pretty important.14:44
ajmoulenehird_: you could just delete .kde all together14:44
psychoholicman i am glad i took the time to learn IRC it helps lots installing linux and such14:44
cucoajmoulen: ok, thanks. i see what went wrong. but still, i try to setup 4/1/1 and when i close that that and enter back it gets 2/2/114:45
ajmoulenehird_: or just copy .kde out of the way then you can copy back your settings14:45
ehird_ajmoulen: yeah but i've already done that yesterday! i'm going to go in and disable the saving, but i want to keep my settings14:45
ehird_ajmoulen: so i'd rather know where in .kde it is14:45
ScorpKingthere is also bitchx for cli irc14:45
ajmoulen~/.kde/share/config/sessions14:45
ehird_thanks14:46
ehird_Just rm -rf that, right, ajmoulen?14:46
ajmoulenI think so14:46
ehird_OK. Thanks.14:46
DaSkreechor you know ... mv it incase bad thigns happen14:47
* ScorpKing nods14:47
jpatrickDaSkreech: too late, mate!14:47
DaSkreechjpatrick: I know but .. for future refrence14:48
ajmoulenDaSkreech: for him bad things already happened, he can't log in14:48
ScorpKingi hope he does not have mail in kmail14:48
jpatrickajmoulen: and now he may have trashed his ~ dir if he didn't know what he was doing14:48
ajmoulensession doesn't keep track of email14:48
BluesKajoops , I looks like GParted requires cd media , K3B won't burn it to a dvd+rw14:48
ajmoulenthat is in the kmail configuration14:48
ScorpKingoh ya.14:48
ajmoulensessions only stores what applications were running when you shutdown, the location and size of those applications14:49
ScorpKingi thought he'd rm .kde/14:49
ajmoulenand if you are running kwin restores them to the appropriate location and size, under compiz just to the size14:49
ajmoulenScorpKing: nope he asked which directory stored sessions, so I said ~/.kde/share/config/sessions14:50
ScorpKingi see now.14:50
* ScorpKing hides..14:50
WaltzingAlongshould be able to burn the cd iso to dvdr14:50
ajmoulenScorpKing: same thing as I said to timri - It's Friday ;-)14:51
* BluesKaj waits for ..."It didn't work!"14:51
VSpike!backup14:51
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning14:51
timriScorpKing: it is the session directory (omit the s )14:51
ScorpKingtrue.14:51
BluesKajWaltzingAlong, wellK3B wants a cd to burn it14:51
ajmoulentimri: my typing is horrible14:52
ajmoulenI definitely need to copy and paste14:52
timriajmoulen: If he tries to remove that one, he'll still have his problem.14:52
timrihe or she14:52
ajmoulentimri: you know it will be my fault14:53
timriajmoulen: :)14:53
DaSkreech!cloning14:53
ubotuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate14:53
DaSkreechSweet14:53
TheGateKeeperhow do you tell irssi what nick you want to use?14:53
LynoureTheGateKeeper: /nick newnicknamehere14:54
ajmoulenoh that is cool14:54
LynoureTheGateKeeper: or permanently?  then type  /save  after that to save config14:54
caolihello14:54
caoliany one can hear me?14:55
Lynourecaoli: yes.14:55
WaltzingAlongcaoli: no but i can read what you have typed14:55
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caolihaha14:55
ehird_whoever-it-was-that-helped-me-last-time14:55
ehird_didn't work.14:55
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ehird_it still started 'em.14:56
timriajmoulen: :)14:56
ehird_ah yes, ajmoulen.14:56
ajmoulenI know my fault14:56
ajmoulendid you fix my typo?14:56
DaSkreech!nick14:56
ehird_so, where exactly in system settings is the setting to disable it?14:56
ubotuBy default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration14:56
timriehird_: rm ~/.kde/share/config/session/*14:56
ehird_(or in ~/.kde/config)14:56
ehird_ajmoulen: yes, i did14:56
timripfff14:56
ehird_ajmoulen: (fix your typo)14:56
ajmoulenit is ~/.kde/share/config/session not sessions14:56
ehird_yes14:56
ehird_i know14:56
ehird_i tab-completed it14:56
ajmoulenand you still couldn't log in?14:57
ehird_however it still did it, just the window positions/sizes weren't remembered14:57
ajmoulendid you get any errors?14:57
ehird_so, where in ~/.kde/config is the RestoreItAtStartupThing option?14:57
timriehird_: system settings - settings manager 'always start with a new session'14:57
ehird_and no14:57
ehird_it just froze.14:57
BluesKajis there a way to burn a cd image to a dvd+rw ?14:57
ehird_timri: that'd be good if i could get into system settings.14:57
ajmoulenehird_: good question14:57
timriehird_: rm ~/.kde/share/config/session/*14:57
ehird_i did that14:57
ehird_i already said that.14:57
stdinBluesKaj: yep, just do it like it's a dvd image (ie: select "burn DVD image")14:58
timriehird_: sudo adduser newuser14:58
TheGateKeeperok thanks Lynoure let me try that14:58
uhlivecan someone help me with a bootsplash14:58
ehird_timri i am aware i could just remove my .kde however i do not wish to lose all of it14:58
timriehird_: I understand, but using a new account will let you keep your old, while at the same time giving (perhaps) useful debug info14:58
ehird_timri; i've moved .kde to .kdeold14:59
uhliveanyone?14:59
ehird_so i'm in a 'green' kde right now14:59
BluesKajcool stdin .... seems to be working :)14:59
ScorpKinguhlive: what is wrong with it?14:59
ajmoulenksmserverrc14:59
stdinBluesKaj: I've had to do it a few times when I couldn't find a CD, so I know it works fine15:00
ehird_ajmoulen: how obvious15:00
ehird_:D15:00
uhlivescorpking well see my computer boots and then goes to the grub menu it says press esc to enter menu etc etc.. well then after that the computer screeen goes blank and i can't see anything until my login screen comes up..15:00
ajmoulenehird_: of course it is ;-)15:00
ajmoulenksmserver -> KDE Session Management Server15:01
uhlivescorpking i would at least like to see all the text and stuff15:01
ScorpKinguhlive: make the resolution lower in /etc/usplash.conf15:01
ajmoulenmakes perfect sense ;-), of course that is if you can find the silly thing via a search15:01
BluesKajright on stdin...looks like it worked15:01
ScorpKinguhlive: you don't have to reboot to test it15:01
WaltzingAlonguhlive: remove 'splash' from the boot menu entries; perhaps 'quiet' as well15:02
uhlivescorpking it is set to 1024 768.. shouldn't that be ok?15:02
uhlivewaltzingalong what file would i edit?15:02
ScorpKinguhlive: press control+alt+f1 and login. run sudo usplash -c . to get back press control+alt+f7.15:02
ScorpKinguhlive: maybe 800x600 wil work.15:03
uhlivescorpking ok.. but should i set that conf file to 800 60015:03
uhliveah ok.. hang on let me try taht15:03
ScorpKingyes15:03
WaltzingAlonguhlive: /boot/grub/menu.lst       find # defoptions=         then change it accordingly; save the file and update grub;  update-grub15:04
uhlivek i'm gonna try all that.. thanks guys15:05
ScorpKinguhlive: after all that go back to tty1 and see if there are any errors.15:05
ScorpKinguhlive: don't go15:05
uhlivetty1?15:05
uhlivei'm not leaving15:05
ScorpKingok15:05
ScorpKingany errors?15:05
uhlivejust giving thanks lol15:05
borishh15:05
ScorpKing!usplash15:05
ubotuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork15:05
uhlivewhen i hit ctl alt f1 the screen changes but the text is HUGE i can't really read anything15:06
ScorpKingah ok. WaltzingAlong's advice might help as well.15:07
uhlivek let me do that first15:07
ScorpKingi'll go look for the vga options15:07
^kaminixWhat's new in the Koffice update? :o It's not a new version is it?15:08
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uhlivescorpking i think i found the problem with the huge text15:09
ScorpKinguhlive: ok. and? ;)15:09
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ehird__YEARRRGHHH!!!!!15:09
ehird__I lost all my goddamn settings.15:09
ehird__For no reason.15:09
ehird__Stupid, STUPID KDE.15:10
uhlivegonna test it..15:10
ajmoulenby deleting the ksmserverrc?15:10
ehird__no.15:10
ScorpKingfor the mv .kde .kdeold15:10
ehird__no.15:10
ehird__I fixed the ksmserverrc's session info,15:10
uhlivei think i can handle it from here.. i'll have to do some rebooting15:10
ehird__did a "mv .kde2 .kde"15:10
ehird__and then hard-rebooted so kde couldn't mess it up15:10
ehird__evidently, kde watches ~/.kde like a hawk and synchs it15:10
ajmoulenapparently kde doesn't love you today15:10
ScorpKinguhlive: http://wiki.arklinux.org/index.php/Changing_the_bootup_splash_screen15:10
ajmoulenah yes15:10
ehird__now i'm wondering how i tell kde to start being a lazy ass15:10
uhlivethanks for all the help15:11
ajmoulenit loads a fair amount of information into memory15:11
ScorpKinguhlive: save that link.15:11
ajmoulenthen writes it out on session close15:11
ScorpKinguhlive: you're welcome15:11
ehird__ajmoulen: yeah, but i pressed the reset button on my computer!15:11
ehird__how could it have a chance? it literally had its power cut15:11
ajmoulenwell you don't, what you do is make sure you are not in an X session when you modify the kde files15:11
ehird__yeah15:11
ehird__well. :|15:11
WaltzingAlongehird__: and the journaling filesystem restored to when?15:11
ehird__too late now15:11
ehird__all my settings: gone15:11
ehird__waltzingalong: it didn't, actually15:12
ehird__waltzingalong: fsck checked it and it was OK15:12
ehird__now, WHERE do I disable setting saving so I can stop this happening ever again15:12
timriehird__: Perhaps Iam missing something, but where did the kde2 dir come from ? You didnt mention creating that one iirc15:12
ajmoulenwhat happens is that the files were open when you tried to copy under them, even though they looked right, you couldn't have changed them15:12
ehird__timri: I typo'd, when I said kdeold I really meant kde2.15:13
ehird__ajmoulen: I rm -rf'd .kde beforehand.15:13
timriehird__: ok15:13
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ajmoulenehird__: if the file is open Linux will not really delete it15:13
ajmoulenit will just remove the reference you see15:13
ehird__ah, i see15:13
timriehird__: So no "Stupid, STUPID KDE" :)15:13
ehird__Implementation details affecting outcome = fun fun fun15:13
timriehird__: but I understand your frustration15:13
Guest51592!list15:14
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots15:14
ajmoulenwhat you do is you log out of kde and go to a terminal window to do this stuff15:14
ehird__timtri: indeed, settings spree time15:14
ehird__ajmoulen: yeah, but i was already in kde so i was lazy :P15:14
timriehird__: :(15:14
ajmoulenehird__: understood, but for future reference15:14
ajmoulenas to not saving the session there is a setting to either save the session or to allow you to save a session15:14
ajmoulenthis will allow you to save a default good session and always start with that15:14
Guest51592!list15:15
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots15:15
timriGuest51592: Adding a factoid ?15:16
ehird__ajmoulen: No True Good Session fallacy: it does this every time I boot up. :)15:16
ajmoulenehird__: no no, you have to save a session you know is good15:16
ajmoulenyou know with like konsoles and other minor things15:16
ehird__ajmoulen: EVERY session does this, you see15:16
ehird__ajmoulen: even just a konsole15:16
ajmoulenumm...15:16
ajmoulenthen something else is wrong15:16
ajmoulenbut if you want it to not do it at all you can go into kde15:17
ajmoulengo to system settings for kde15:17
ajmoulenunder advanced, Session Manager15:17
ajmoulenchoose Start with an empty session under On Login15:17
jasonagowhy do kubuntu gutsy still do not know how to play vcd??? It can't detect VCDs! And I think Feisty is better than gutsy...Gutsy even corrupted my usb drive! Font installer is also having problems when I browse files inside the media:/ protocol but when I browse inside /media/ (which is the same), it works...15:18
ajmoulenjasonago: so how do you really feel about Gutsy?15:19
WaltzingAlongjasonago: which program had you used with feisty to play the media?15:19
ajmoulenjasonago: what application can't do VCD?15:19
timrijasonago: Well, I think it does. Try kvdr with the vcd plugin15:20
jasonagowhy do kubuntu gutsy still do not know how to play vcd??? It can't detect VCDs! And I think Feisty is better than gutsy...Gutsy even corrupted my usb drive! Font installer is also having problems when I browse files inside the media:/ protocol but when I browse inside /media/ (which is the same), it works...15:20
VSpikebah - keep sucks15:21
timrijasonago: I already answered that it DOES.15:21
timriVSpike: rdiff-backup15:21
jasonagokaffeine can't play vcd...it crashes since feisty and now with gutsy...15:21
tungi can't start kdeinit15:21
WaltzingAlong!codecs | jasonago15:21
timrijasonago: sudo aptitude install kvdr vdr-plugin-vcd15:21
ubotujasonago: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats15:21
ajmoulenjasonago: are you using compiz?15:22
WaltzingAlong!info vdr-plugin-vcd15:22
ubotuvdr-plugin-vcd: VDR Plugin for playing (S)VCD's. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7-31 (gutsy), package size 48 kB, installed size 160 kB15:22
ajmoulenwith an ATI graphics card15:22
tungi use compiz-fusion15:22
ajmoulencompiz will cause xv to crash X15:22
ajmoulenif using XGL15:22
jasonagobut there are reports since feisty of the same problem and I think there's really a problem...if kaffeine can't play, then there's a problem...15:22
SpoZenhi why does the manual come up when i try to mount an iso file?15:23
SpoZensudo mkdir /media/iso15:23
SpoZensudo mount -t iso9660 filename.iso /media/iso -o loop15:23
SpoZenls -la /media/iso15:23
timrijasonago: If you wont at least try my suggestion, so be it. :)15:23
tungi install kde in ubuntu but can't start kdeinit15:23
ajmoulentung: kdeinit?15:24
ajmoulenwhat is that supposed to do?15:24
tungto start kde15:24
timriajmoulen: it is the process in KDE that start all the others15:24
ScorpKing!iso15:24
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.15:24
timriajmoulen: it's a bit of a hack to improve performance15:24
ajmoulentimri: ah, too lazy to improve performance ;-)15:24
SpoZenthanks but isnt that the command i just showed ya?15:25
ScorpKingtry is15:25
ScorpKingit*15:25
timriajmoulen: No, those issues are beyond the control of KDE15:26
tungwhen I start KDE in Ubuntu, it says "Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation". What should I do?15:26
ajmoulentimri: no I am too lazy to improve performance on my machine, so i don't pay attention to these things15:26
timritung: You installed the meta package "kubuntu-desktop" ?15:27
ajmoulentung: did you install kde under ubuntu?15:27
SpoZenthanks15:27
tungYes15:27
ajmoulentimri: looks like we are going to the same place15:27
timriajmoulen: Ah, ok :)15:27
timri:)15:27
ajmoulentung: so you installed kubuntu-desktop not just a pile of kde packages15:27
ajmoulenfrom a command line, try sudo apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade15:28
Daisuke_Laptoptung: are you trying to launch kde from inside gnome?15:28
timriajmoulen: it is called safe-upgrade nowadays, "upgrade" is the new dist-upgrade I think15:29
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tungI can use KDE app inside GNOME15:29
jasonagoalso just a little prob, when creating numbered list or bulleted list in OpenOffice.org writer, it has this "field color" that wasn't present in earlier versions...I can't turn it off even in the configuration...now it looks like the page numbers with "field color" around them....15:29
ajmoulentimri: why do they break things like this, whose smart idea was that?15:29
tungbut I can't start KDE session under Ubuntu15:29
* timri shares ajmoulens sentiment15:30
ajmoulentimri: I left gentoo for crap like that15:30
ajmoulenheck through the years, I have left several distributions for stuff like that ;-)15:30
ScorpKingtung: you have to start a kde session from gdm/kdm15:31
timriajmoulen: Yeah, the disregard for backwards compatibility is astounding15:31
ajmoulentung: so when you are at the gdm login page you change your session to kde and while it is trying to start you get an error ?15:31
tungI start KDE session from gdm15:31
jasonagokonqueror is also not functioning even in feisty unless I disable the cache although it is still very very slow and unbearable...Firefox do function without any glitches...I'm using a linuxant driver (free) and a dialup15:31
ScorpKingjasonago: it is a problem with knetworkmanager15:32
tungyes, I can't start KDE session15:32
ajmoulenjasonago: are you trying to carry forward old configuation files?15:32
timrijasonago: Try posing your statements more like specific questions, we can help you better that way.15:32
ajmoulentung: you may need to reinstall the kde packages, I have seen that happen on a bad install before but not otherwise15:32
ScorpKingjasonago: klose knetworkmanager and it will work. because you use dailup and only have ppp0 and not eth* it thinks there is no default route so a lot of kde apps have no internet.15:33
ScorpKingclose*15:33
ajmoulentung: also did you have an old .kde directory you tried to move forward?15:33
tungI have installed kubuntu-desktop15:33
ajmoulentung: unfortunately just removing and reinstalling that will not remove kde15:34
ajmoulentry running a kde app from within a terminal in gnome15:34
ajmoulenthen check if kdeinit is started15:34
tungI see. The only thing I should do is to reinstall KDE. Right15:34
ajmoulenit may give you some ideas, also you could try startkde from within gnome and see what shows up in the terminal15:35
ajmoulenwell I think you may need to figure out what is causing the failure and there should be some error message15:35
tungI can't use sudo apt-get install to install kdeinit15:35
ajmoulenso running startkde from a gnome terminal may give you some information that we may be able to help you with15:35
ajmoulenkdeinit isn't a package by itself15:36
ajmoulenat least I don't think it is15:36
ajmoulenwhat happens when you try typing kdeinit from a gnome terminal?15:36
kutahow to updates kubuntu?15:36
VSpiketimri: looks like keep uses rdiff-backup in the background15:37
stdinkuta: see the topic15:37
tungI start KDE from GNOME terminal and the same error happens15:37
timriVSpike: Oops, didnt know that.15:37
VSpikeme either :)15:38
ajmoulenbut is that the only error?15:38
VSpiketimri: as a UI, it sucks however.. so that's useful info as I'll try to just script rdiff-backup directly instead15:38
ajmoulentung: that was toward you sorry15:38
snakehello15:39
tungwhen I type kdeinit in terminal, it says:15:39
VSpiketimri: If I use rdiff-backup to an ntfs partition I'll lose ownerships and permissions, right?15:39
tungkdeinit: Shutting down running client.15:39
B4S3Mi want to setup  HP 1020 printer on kubuntu15:39
tung---------------------------------15:39
tungIt looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure15:39
tungthat it is not already running, remove /home/tung/.DCOPserver_tung-desktop__115:39
tungand start dcopserver again.15:39
tung---------------------------------15:39
tungKDE Daemon (kded) already running.15:39
tungkbuildsycoca running...15:39
tungReusing existing ksycoca15:39
timriVSpike: I have NO idee15:39
stdin!paste | tung15:39
ubotutung: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)15:39
snakei have a problem. i opened a shell in kde but now everytime i restart the pc the shell reopens automatically. can anyone tell me how to remove it please ?15:39
timriVSpike: idea15:39
timri!pastebin | tung15:40
VSpiketimri: heh thought you just lapsed into french for a moment15:40
stdinsnake: exit the shell before you logout15:40
snakestdin: i tried15:40
Nitzguys15:40
timriVSpike: No, just icy hands15:40
snakei exit it anytime15:40
snakeat the beggining15:40
Nitzkubuntu is very dificult for begining15:40
ajmoulenunder the kde menu, do you have an option "save session"?15:40
VSpiketimri: I can't see how it will preserve them ... tar could i guess but if it's just mirroring files it can't unless it tries to store all that stuff as metadata somewhere15:40
Nitzso how can i help to improve it and suggest bugs?15:41
stdinsnake: manual way is system setting > advanced > session manager     set it to start an empty session15:41
timriVSpike: one sec15:41
snakestdin: thank you15:41
snakegoing to try now15:41
timriVSpike: ok, Iam back.15:41
VSpiketimri: oh actually it does.. "rdiff-backup records file metadata in a separate file so that all information is preserved even if the destination file system is missing features."15:42
timriVSpike: Even if it preserves your permissions (I could think of some kludge using ACls for that) you will have problems with some filenames15:42
downix_I hate printer makers that supply Linux drivers that only work in 1 distro.....15:43
timriVSpike: I have some files with * ? etc in them15:43
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VSpikeyeah i need to reformat this external hdd to ext3 :)15:43
B4S3Mhow can i install  HP lasrjet 1020 printer ?15:43
DownixDoes anyone know how to extract a printer driver out of an .rpm so that I can manually install it?15:43
timriDownix: rms ?15:44
VSpikeDownix: alien?15:44
VSpikeB4S3M: did you check the database at http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting15:44
tungajmoulen: how can I set up knetworkmanager to run at startup15:44
timriVSpike: That's what I do.15:44
Downixdon't know rms, and alien just tried to install it like a .deb, which doesn't add it to the driver list for cups.15:44
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timriDownix: ignore me pls.15:45
ajmoulentung: wouldn't it make sense to first get kde to start before worrying about knetworkmanager?15:45
mdoshello all15:45
Downixtimri:  but you're so nice and helpful!  8)15:45
timriDownix: :)15:45
tungajmoulen: because i can use KDE app inside Ubuntu15:45
DownixMy thought was, could I un-archive the rpm to get at the driver file underneath, and install it through the "have driver" button of cups?15:45
VSpiketung: put a link into ~/.kde/Autostart15:46
ajmoulentung: use gnome's network manager rather than kde's15:46
ajmoulenit is more complete anyway15:46
VSpikeB4S3M: http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_102015:47
kutahi, after fectching updates in adept Manager, how to update my kubuntu to the latest patches?15:47
ajmoulentung: if you haven't invested a lot into your system already, backup your home directory and reinstall kubuntu15:47
ajmoulenkuta: did you just fetch them? rather than install?15:47
tungajmoulen: I think wicd is better than gnome network manager, but when I install kubuntu-desktop it force me to uninstall wicd15:47
kutaajmoulen: fetch updates15:48
timriVSpike: To elaborate: my external backup drive also has a pristine kubuntu dapper install on it (separate partition), so that in case of disaster I can boot from it.15:48
ajmoulenkuta: on the bottom of the screen it should have install option15:48
VSpiketimri: good idea15:48
mdosI have a little prb with amarok and wikipedia fr15:48
mdosIf I use the fr locale the progress bar loops15:49
mdosand no info appears15:49
mdosit's work with other ( en , es ... )15:49
mdossomebody has already see that ?15:50
ajmoulenmdos: did you try in kubuntu.fr ?15:51
timri!fr15:51
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.15:51
ajmoulenerr -fr, I always get that wrong15:51
ajmoulenI think I need to stop helping ;-)15:51
mdoseverybody sleeping on kubuntu-fr :)15:52
timrimdos: Ask _4strO, he/she is from (around) strasbourg15:52
mdosoki15:52
_4strOmdos: exact15:53
mdosit's strange because it worked before15:53
timrimdos: You have to repeat your problem: _4strO just joined the channel, so he couldn't have heard you :)15:54
_4strOright !15:54
mdosI have a little prb with amarok and wikipedia fr15:54
mdosIf I use the fr locale the progress bar loops and no infos appears15:54
ajmoulentimri: I picture you with a google map with the names of people pinned to it ;-)15:54
VSpikehehe15:55
VSpikeand a white cat15:55
mdoscan you test it 4strO ?15:55
VSpikewow, writing to usb hard drive is cpu intensive :/15:55
NetersLandreauhow would one get kate's fish to work with a knock firewall?15:55
mdosI use amarok ver 1.4.515:56
timriajmoulen: Nope, I see the join/leave messages in konversation. Like me, _4strO is a wandoo/orange client, and they  include the some geographical info in the reverse dnsname (or whatever it is called ;))15:56
mdossomeone can try to change the locale to fr and say me if the problem occurs ?15:56
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_4strOmdos: i'm under 1.4.715:57
_4strObut i will try15:57
mdosok thx15:57
mdosI want to know if the problem come from me or if it's more general15:57
timriNetersLandreau: good question... :) I have no clue15:58
timriNetersLandreau: I doubt the fish kioslave supports knocking, though15:59
_4strOmdos: you speak fr ?15:59
mdosyes :)15:59
NetersLandreauthx timri15:59
* timri if going. Bye everyone.16:02
rafethello16:11
rafethow to install flash plugins?16:11
raulhla16:13
raulhola16:13
rauluna cosa16:13
raulsaveis cual es el programa16:13
raulde texto16:13
raulpara kubuntu16:13
rauluno como el bloq de notas16:13
raulcomo el de window16:13
raulpara pdoer modificar archivos php16:13
rauly demas16:13
_4strO!es16:14
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.16:14
ajmoulenrafet: install flashplugin-nonfree16:15
_4strOrafet: where do you want trhe plugin ...16:15
rafetadobe flash player 916:17
rafethow to install kubuntu 7.1016:17
Jucatorafet: install "flashplugin-nonfree"16:17
rafetalt +f2 and run this command?16:19
Jucatorafet: no16:19
rafethelp me please i am new on linux16:19
JucatoGo to K Menu -> Add/Remove Programs16:19
rafetyes16:20
Jucatothen search for Flash there. mark the checkbox, and click on Apply Changes16:20
rafeti find16:21
ajmoulenit will be under the other category on the left16:21
invite_ubuntu16:22
invite_kubuntu16:22
invite_+++16:22
rafetthanks16:23
invite_you're welcome16:23
rafetnow adept batch bussy for ubdate16:23
rafetwhen finished this time try it16:23
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rafet#girne16:25
invite_KDE is cool16:27
invite_but MAc is cooler16:28
Jucatohmm16:28
invite_==> KDE sucks16:28
hydrogenthats logical.16:28
hydrogennothing like a MAc16:28
invite_compared to mac16:28
Jucatoinvite_: please stay on topic16:28
RoeyKMac16:28
invite_ok guys16:28
hydrogenwhat he said.16:28
invite_don't want to get kicked16:29
hydrogenthens tay on topi16:29
hydrogenc16:29
invite_:)16:29
invite_just wanted to stimulate some of yours16:29
invite_and the best way to do that16:29
Daisuke-Idois to troll?16:29
invite_is to attack kubuntu :)16:29
Daisuke-Idolike i said16:29
Jucatoyes, you have successfully stimulated my kicking scripts16:30
invite_lol16:30
hydrogenooh16:30
hydrogenyou have aroused jucato16:30
hydrogenthats never good16:30
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invite_So should I prepare myself to get Into The launchpad?16:31
invite_whixh by the way is awfull also16:31
invite_Im ready16:31
invite_now16:31
Daisuke-Idoinvite_: you're not exactly inviting goodwill right now.16:32
invite_Nothing ...16:33
hydrogenso invite_... do you actually have a problem or are you looking for one16:33
invite_a little bit bored16:33
invite_since i have installed kubuntu16:33
invite_no more problems with my Pc16:33
invite_so the only thing that i have to do16:34
invite_is making problems16:34
invite_...16:34
invite_Kubuntu made my life look like hell16:34
invite_no more joy16:35
* hydrogen doesn't see this continueing for much longer16:35
hydrogenstay on topic, or leave16:35
jhutchinshydrogen: It's not like he's drowning out essential conversations.16:36
hydrogenjhutchins: that doesn't excuse it16:36
hydrogenthe topic is the topic reguardless of what else is occuring16:36
Jucatorules are rules...16:37
invite_understood16:37
Jucatojhutchins: I've heard that argument a hundred times, and I can refute it a hundred times as well :)16:37
jhutchinsYes, but doing so is off topic.16:38
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hydrogenwhat is it about people that feel the need to sound smart and in doing so only make themselves sound less intelligent..16:38
invite_So maybe that i can find a problem finally16:39
invite_It's not really a big problem16:39
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invite_but when i launch a module16:40
kristjan_can someone confirm that adept no longer adapts the user's KDE style, colors and fonts?16:40
invite_Configuration module of KDE16:40
invite_like for example system services16:40
Jucatokristjan_: it should, unless you changed the users's theme16:40
invite_or monitor16:41
invite_& dispmlay16:41
kristjan_Jucato: something happened after recent update - adept no longer integrates into my desktop, uses kubuntu's default look16:41
Jucatokristjan_: apps that run as root (with sudo/kdesu) use a separate theme (the root user's theme). but it's configured to use the same default theme as the default users16:41
invite_the windows is always too small and the Administrator mode button along with the Cancel and ok16:42
invite_ones are always hidden16:42
invite_How can i change this behavior16:43
invite_even if I maxmize the windows then close them16:44
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invite_the next time i open them they remain as described16:44
kristjan_Jucato: I think this is related to "libqt3-mt" - after the update there was an error and I had to "sudo dpkg --configure -a" http://hashbin.com/1627e.html16:44
Jucatokristjan_: I think I answerd Y (install package manager's version)16:45
invite_This is only happenig with Kde control Modules windows16:45
kristjan_Jucato: I answered N (default)16:45
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kristjan_Jucato: can I rerun it and answer Y (to see if this caused adept strange behaviour)16:46
kristjan_invite_: run "kcontrol" - this version won't resize strangely16:46
Jucatokristjan_: I don't think so. but perhaps it works now. it might have not finished installing16:46
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invite_So is this a common problem16:47
invite_?16:47
invite_already listed in launchpad or kde bug tracking system...16:48
kristjan_invite_: not sure I understood your problem - do you mean this kind of resize? http://i14.tinypic.com/8bsem86.png16:50
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Thylio90How do i accses my ntfs extern hdd?16:52
nick_I'm having major issues with Adept Updater. It won't update, sayin that there are broken packages.16:55
invite_I mean that kind of reseize : http://i17.tinypic.com/86sgc53.png16:55
nick_can anyone suggest anything?16:55
nick_I've tried16:56
nick_sudo dpkg --clear-avail16:56
nick_sudo apt-get update16:56
nick_but it doesn't work16:56
kristjan_nick_: sudo dpkg --configure -a16:57
adam_has anyone managed to or knows how to get the new creative zen player working under amarok?16:57
kristjan_invite_: heh, that looks broken, what style is it? qtcurve?16:57
invite_yes Qtcurve16:57
kristjan_invite_: does it happen with e.g. plastik or polyester style?16:57
Thylio90need some help. i cant mount my ntfs usb hdd16:57
invite_It's worst with plastik16:58
invite_the button are totally hidden16:58
kristjan_invite_: never happened to me, you should definitely file a bug report16:58
jhutchinsadam_: There's an amarok specific channel, but be nice, the devs there are good people: #amarok16:59
adam_has anyone managed to or knows how to get the new creative zen player working under amarok?16:59
adam_oops ignore that >.>16:59
invite_Another thing that is strange is the power saving. If I enable it , keep using the computer and then17:00
invite_it's not working anymore17:00
invite_the screen doesn't turn black17:01
kristjan_invite_: define "not working"17:01
invite_iWhen i check the Power saving option i find it desactivated17:01
invite_The check box is not checked anymore17:01
invite_and the power saving by the way17:02
kristjan_invite_: really strange - works here17:02
invite_it's randomly happening17:02
invite_somtimes it last a day17:02
invite_sometimes 217:02
invite_sometimes not even a hour17:03
invite_Last day i was doing a projection at school17:03
kristjan_invite_: can you post the output of "xset -q" in hashbin.com?17:03
invite_it was a movie i have disabled it17:03
invite_but the screen turned black after about 2 minutes17:03
invite_I have checked the power saving option and found it uncked17:04
invite_unchecked17:04
invite_when i switched to my gnome session17:05
invite_it worked fine17:05
invite_it was really disappointing17:05
invite_DPMS (Energy Star):  Standby: 60    Suspend: 60    Off: 60  DPMS is Enabled  Monitor is On17:06
TheGateKeeperok on irssi I did /nick newnickname then did /save then restarted irssi and it restarted with the original user name, so how do I fix this?17:07
jhutchinsinvite_: Sometimes the settings in your BIOS will override the settings in Linux.17:07
invite_but it was working perfectly17:08
invite_with feisty17:08
jhutchinsTheGateKeeper: Dunno, I run Konversation.  I suspect there's a manual, and probably a support channel where you can be told to read it.17:08
invite_and dapper17:08
invite_this issue happened when i upgraded to gusty17:08
JucatoTheGateKeeper: ~/.irssi/config file17:08
xultzHello guys. I have a original DVD and I wanto to make a backup copy, but K3B says that he could not get the CSS keys and failed to break the DVD protection. Is there anything I can do to make that copy?17:09
Thylio90when i try to mount my extern hdd i get "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"  !?17:09
invite_and i think it will be hard to track as it is happening "randomly" even if I know that ther is certainly some reason17:10
yanhello all, problem : i have kubuntu (gutsy) and the language is set to canada (french), i have some document (actually .java) on a usb key and there is many é,è,à in the comments there, but they appear in kate and netbeans as ?(kate)  or square (netbeans), both r in utf8 and i tryed to change to every encoding in kate but this is not helping. thanks17:11
timriThylio90: Page 4 and 5 on: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47351117:11
Thylio90timri: thx17:13
TheGateKeeperthanks Jucato :)17:13
timrixultz: dd if=/dev/hdc of=mybackupcopy.iso17:13
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xultzthank you timri, I will try it17:14
timrixultz: Note: you may need to use sudo, and your cdrom/dvd could be on another device than /dev/hdc17:15
i00nsu_this kubuntu is dificult to understand that slackware 3.0 jesus... joke ... why i cant make any software installation? every time I try ... ERROR :/ something wrong with the srver?17:16
timrii00nsu_: We need the exact error, please.17:17
yanhello all, problem : i have kubuntu (gutsy) and the language is set to canada (french), i have some document (actually .java) on a usb key and there is many é,è,à in the comments there, but they appear in kate and netbeans as ?(kate)  or square (netbeans), both r in utf8 and i tryed to change to every encoding in kate but this is not helping. thanks17:17
i00nsu_timi .. I will try to translate17:17
BluesKaji00nsu_, http://kubuntu.org/download.php17:18
i00nsu_Amarok can't read mp3 :o17:18
yanyou need a plug in17:19
yandidnt amarok asked you to download one?17:19
BluesKaji00nsu_, sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg17:19
invite_i00nsu_:you have to install the proper codecs first17:19
timriyan: May be a problem with the mount. Please post the output of: cat /etc/mtab | grep media17:19
i00nsu_yan eyes .. but give me and error17:20
yanoutput : /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096 0 017:20
hydrogentimri: eww17:20
hydrogengrep media /etc/mtab17:20
hydrogenmuch nicer!17:20
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timrii00nsu_: sudo aptitude libxine1-ffmpeg17:20
timrihydrogen: It's a matter of taste. I like the consistency of the pipe'd one.17:21
BluesKajsudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpeg17:21
hydrogentimri: consistancy? whats consistant about using two commands over one17:21
timriBluesKaj: I SO pown you :)17:21
hydrogenwith the exception of overcomplicating it..17:22
timrihydrogen: I can use the same syntax with data not from a file, eg ps aux | grep yada17:22
yantimri : /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096 0 017:22
hydrogentimri: right, thats because ps aux isn't a file17:22
BluesKajtimri, ??17:22
hydrogenyou can grep stdout or you can grep a file17:23
timrihydrogen: Well duh :)17:23
hydrogenit makes more sense to grep the file17:23
hydrogenthen to put the file in stdout and grep that17:23
timriBluesKaj: I typed the exact same thing some seconds before you17:23
timriyan: Ah, there's a utf missing!17:23
BluesKajerr, you forgot "install"17:23
timrihydrogen: Whatever.17:23
timriBluesKaj: *blush*17:23
BluesKajppl copy and paste :)17:24
yanhow i add it?17:24
timriBluesKaj: copy and paste from where :)17:24
BluesKajfrom the channel text17:24
BluesKajat least i do :)17:25
timriAnyone can help yan with the correction of his automount? It's not using utf and I have to go NOW!17:25
timriyan: sorry, something just came up :(17:25
yanautomount + utf on gogole will dop it :)17:25
yanthanx17:25
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excitatoryalrigh, so i have a radeon 9600 with dual heads (VGA & DVI).  I want to add a second monitor to the dvi port and have a spanning or extra wide desktop.  someone told me not to use xinerama anymore and to look into randr 1.2.  i've searched around and everything i find is a bit confusing.. is there a coherent guide for setting this up?17:33
i00nsu_excitatory: i have an 9600 but never put it on, alot of errors and my secound monitor never works...17:39
i00nsu_be sure u have an non-old monitor :)17:40
yani have 2 monitor , but i have a nvidia , and i use them with xinerama..17:41
yanbut its configured by my official nvidia driver..17:41
i00nsu_well is not ati17:42
i00nsu_lots of ppl says well good about nvidia cards17:42
yani heard ati didnt have good linux support... *im not an official source*17:43
i00nsu_well maby you right .. cause the installation drive present itself as an wrong drive17:44
i00nsu_for other distros work but is instable17:45
i00nsu_maby in two three years linux will be more compatible for win games an so on17:47
i00nsu_alien-arena have good playig hehe17:48
Downixi00nsu_: The irony is that Linux with Cedega can get more games running than Windows Vista can.17:48
Downixin my experience17:48
Downixadmittedly, they're majority older games17:48
i00nsu_Cedega?17:49
i00nsu_hmmm never did heard about17:49
yani think its a non free wine like app17:49
DownixIt's a port of Wine with heavy focus on DirectX games.  $5 a month17:49
i00nsu_non free?17:49
Downixworth the $15 I've paid for it.17:49
i00nsu_:/17:49
DownixIt can be free if you compile it yourself from the CVS tree17:49
alunosHow are you?17:49
emilsedghaah, that should be merged be wine :(17:50
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i00nsu_$5 for month ?17:50
i00nsu_boas juninho17:50
Downixright, pre-pay for 3 months.17:50
DownixI pay for 3 months once a year to keep up to date and thats about it17:50
i00nsu_there is no way to pay for life tiime? :)17:50
lordofthepigsHello! I'm trying to mount an ISO with "sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 myiso.iso /media/iso", but for some reason I can't get it to work17:51
DownixWine runs quite a few, but they're not as fast to update specific game crashes.17:51
i00nsu_well but u can run lineage2 for exemple?17:51
yangoogle lineage2 + cedega.. i think ull find something17:52
yani never used wine or cedega to play game since i only play on xbox360 :P17:52
i00nsu_yes, wine crash with most software17:52
i00nsu_lol yanb17:52
lordofthepigsthe iso mounts fine with deamon tools on windows17:52
yanlord, i don't think anyone here is skilled enought to help you :(17:53
lordofthepigsdmesg has the following message "Unable to identify CD-ROM format"17:53
yanim new to linux so i can't.. sry17:53
DownixI run City of Heroes on Cedega.  It runs under Wine, but less stable17:55
i00nsu_but some software everyone can run with wine .. i have tryd Fruity Loops 7.0 and just a few samples wouldn't installed .. but is ok..17:55
i00nsu_hmmm.. good references... now I will google it17:56
Downixlordofthepigs: What format is the disk in?17:56
lordofthepigswell, iso9660, I suppose17:57
lordofthepigshow can I find out for sure?17:57
Downixhex view the file?17:57
lordofthepigser... and how is that going to tell me which format it is in?17:58
lordofthepigsI read somewhere to use the file command17:58
lordofthepigsand it returns myiso.iso: data17:58
Downixwell, if you know what the different file format headers are, you'll know that way18:00
jim88can someone point me in the right direction concerning getting floppies to read ... getting an error when I click on the desktop icon ... The desktop entry file /home/me/Desktop/Floppy Device is of type FSDevice but has no DEV=... entry18:03
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mallizecan anyone help me w/ gutsy?  i upgraded today and i can't get a windows decorator to work w/ compiz18:06
mallize.. i used to have beryl18:06
clemenmlcan anyone help me w/ gutsy?  i upgraded today and i can't get a windows decorator to work w/ compiz18:07
mkzI'd like to buy a USB bluetooth transceiver.  Can anyone recommend a good source to identify a product that is linux-compatible?18:09
mkzwow... never seen this channel so dead.18:10
geniidlink worked for me... I think model is blt122 or so18:10
mkzdlink?  ok, thanks18:11
geniidbt-12218:12
jim88can someone point me in the right direction concerning getting floppies to read ... getting an error when I click on the desktop icon ... The desktop entry file /home/me/Desktop/Floppy Device is of type FSDevice but has no DEV=... entry18:12
genii(had to go check :)  )18:12
pablo__hi18:14
jim88hi18:14
ajmoulenjim88: don't know the last time I had a floppy drive on a computer, but does the floppy drive show up in the kde devices list?18:17
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XerossHey18:19
Xerossi need help with grub18:19
Xerossi installed fresh18:19
jim88ajmoulen under what list18:19
Xerossgrub points to correct hdd and partition18:19
Xerossbut cannot mount it18:19
ajmoulenkde system settings, advanced, disks or something like that18:19
GerritHello. How do I tell my wireless card (Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG) to use 802.11b (11 mbit) rather than 802.11g (54 mbit)? If we change the mode in the router, I can no longer connect, but if we change it back, I can. Do I configure it with iwconfig or something like that?18:20
ajmoulenI think floppy drives should appear there18:20
jim88what's the command line entry lol18:20
grim_reaper2001is there a way in irssi to get different people to show up in different colours?18:20
ajmoulenjim88: under the kde menu, system settings, no idea what the command line is for it18:20
jim88one sec18:21
GerritI am using the ipw2200 network driver.18:21
ajmoulenGerrit: if your router is set to B you should automatically connect to it without changing anything18:21
ajmoulenGerrit: you shouldn't need to tell the system you want B rather than G unless you router continues to advertise G when it refuses to negotiate G18:22
lordofthepigshow can I find out the FS type of an iso?18:22
lordofthepigswell, a CD image, since I'm not sure it actually is an iso9660 image18:22
jim88ajmoulen I dont see it but have mounted it and it the light comes on but cannot access it ... I did check and have permission18:22
ajmoulencheck under /media18:23
ajmoulenyou may find the mounted folder there18:23
jim88it's listed as fd018:23
Gerritajmoulen: If it's set to B, it won't connect. If it's set to G, it will.18:23
ajmoulenGerrit: let me ask the obvious question, why would you force your router to B?18:24
seezerlordofthepigs: try `file /path/to/fiilename`18:24
Gerritajmoulen: Because 10 other wireless routers are using G in a range of 20m.18:24
Gerritor perhaps a range of 40m18:24
ajmoulenjim88: not sure I understand the problem18:24
Gerritajmoulen: There is a lot of interference when we use G18:24
jim88I cannot access the contents of the floppy18:24
ajmoulenB and G use the same frequency18:24
lordofthepigsAh, I just found it using a windows tool...18:25
ajmoulenA is what you would want if you want to use a different frequency18:25
GerritMy neighbours claim that the internet works better with B.18:25
lordofthepigsit seems the filesystem type is Joliet18:25
ajmoulenthey may just have a devices that is better at dropping crosstalk18:25
GerritIs it possible that we have less packet loss with B than with G?18:25
lordofthepigsso how can I mount that? mount -t joliet?18:25
seezerlordofthepigs: iso9660 should work if joilet support is in the kernel18:26
ajmoulenGerrit: not sure18:26
lordofthepigsseezer: and is it by default?18:26
ajmoulenGerrit: you could try manually setting the channel to something other than 1118:26
lordofthepigsI don't remember installing that explicitely18:26
seezeryes should be18:27
lordofthepigsseezer: Well for some reason, it still doesnt want to mount18:27
nagyvHello! How can I find out if my ethernet card is wrong or just the config/modules/sw? I've a Compaq Presario 700 with a built-in ehternet card, according to lspci it's a Realtek 8139. But still I have no net over it18:27
seezerperhaps its a "freak" format of alcohol120% or whatever products exist out there18:27
Gerritajmoulen: ok18:28
lordofthepigs sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 myiso.iso /media/iso doesn't work18:28
lordofthepigsthis yields an "Unable to identify CD-ROM format" in the syslog18:28
ajmoulenGerrit: the only thing that may make sense is that G is a little more sensitive then B, but once you connect it shouldn't matter anymore18:29
ajmoulenlordofthepigs: are you sure the image is good?18:29
Gerritajmoulen: Then perhaps my neighbours are mistaken.18:29
lordofthepigsajmoulen: It mounts in windows with poweriso18:29
GerritI will discuss it with them.18:29
ajmoulenlordofthepigs: are you trying to mount a file off a fat32 partition or something like that in Linux?18:30
lordofthepigsnope, it's on a ext3 partition18:30
kingmantoho un problema con hard disc esterno18:30
jim88ajmoulen:I cannot access the contents of the floppy18:30
ajmoulendid you try just mount -o loop myiso.iso /media/iso18:30
ajmoulenjim88: from /media/fd0 or from that KDE link?18:31
lordofthepigs[13:28] <lordofthepigs> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 myiso.iso /media/iso doesn't work18:31
kingmantolo vedo ma non riesco ad aprire accesso negato18:31
jim88ajmoulen: from the KDE link18:31
ajmoulenlordofthepigs: notice the lack of -t iso966018:31
lordofthepigsajmoulen: If I don't use the -t iso9660 option, I get an "you need to specify the filesystem type" error18:31
ajmoulenlordofthepigs: it isn't recognizing the file type18:31
jim88ajmoulen:  media/fd0 does exist18:32
ajmoulenlordofthepigs: I mount iso files all the time, and never put a -t iso966018:32
lordofthepigsajmoulen: any idea what I can do?18:32
ajmoulenwell if it works in windows burn it to CD would be my best suggestion18:32
ajmoulenjim88: if it is just the KDE link, then I would suggest just going direct to that directory from dolphin or whatever app you choose and forget the icon18:33
lordofthepigsbah, I'm trying to extract an ISO from my mounted image :)18:33
lordofthepigswe'll see what I get to with that...18:33
jim88ajmoulen:  I understand but there is nothing there and I know there is something on the disk18:34
ajmoulenjim88: from the command prompt when you do ls /media/fd0 you get nothing?18:36
jim88ajmoulen:  yes18:36
ajmoulenthen you don't really have it mounted18:37
lordofthepigsajmoulen: heh, it seems that my extracting the mounted image into another iso worked properly18:37
jim88ajmoulen:  I did mount -a18:38
jim88ajmoulen:  and got no errors18:38
ajmoulentype mount (do not paste it all here) do you see something specifically mounted to /media/fd0?18:38
jim88ajmoulen:  ok it gave me an error mddosfs18:39
jim88ajmoulen:  I changed fstab to auto and it gave no errors18:41
jim88ajmoulen:  now it works18:42
jim88ajmoulen:  thank you18:44
ajmoulenjim88: if anything I did was helpful you are welcome, sounds like you solved it on your own18:45
chxhi. Kopete can't connect to MSN. amsn can. I was able to connect to ICQ/AOL. Do not know whether it's related but this often (not always) happens after hybernation, ktorrent also seems to have problems. i did a /etc/init.d/networking restart.  is there any KDE specific networking service i need to restart? I run Gutsy.18:46
patriciowhat could be the reason, why knetworkmanager suddenly stops looking for active interfaces? seems like hotplug is down18:51
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patriciobut when I restart, nothing changes: No w-lan accesspoints show up, and if i plug in the ethernet cable, there is no automatic dhclient'ing18:52
patricioI can only go for manual network configuration in knetworkmanager18:52
patriciothis all started when I first killed knetworkmanager and set ifconfig eth0 192.168.123.111 just because I only needed point to point there for accessing a newly bought router (so no dhcp there)18:53
patricioactually I think, this is knetworkmanager, clicking on "manual configure" doesn't let pop up any window ... :I18:55
patriciokNetworkManager 0.218:55
jim88ajmoulen:  no, you helped ... just thankful you guys are here18:58
patricioknetworkmanager seems blind, it doesn't even detect, that I'm in here (ethernet, dhcp)18:58
patriciohelp :)18:58
patriciowhat input do you need, to better help me?19:00
dthacker-workpatricio, why not use System-->Settings?19:04
pacmanis there any particular reason why Kubuntu keeps freezing on me?19:04
dthacker-workpacman: you will need to provide more information than that.19:05
pacmanit does it especially after I've been trying to add stuff in Adept19:05
pacmanit'll just freeze, and I'll have to restart19:06
patricio....... hmpf19:06
dthacker-workpacman: not sure, I am also having a19:07
dthacker-workAdept issues19:07
yanpacman, if u use aptitude is it freezing?19:08
yanor do you use the adept_manager? (GUI)19:08
pacmanyou mean sudo apt-get?19:08
yanthere sudo apt-get and sudo aptitude19:09
pacmanI use both....been using adept since I'm just setting up my new HD19:09
yandoes sudo apt-get freeze kde?19:09
pacmanno, it doesn't19:09
yanso only the gui does right?19:09
pacmanyeah19:10
yanwell i have some issu with the adept_manager (gui) 2.. so i started to use sudo apt-get19:10
yani look in adept_manager for the package i want19:10
yanthen download/install them trought apt-get19:10
yanif u absolutely need a GUI to do that then type in console sudo apt-get install synaptic19:11
pacmanI guess I'll start doing that19:11
yanwhen it's installed, type synaptic19:11
yanits another package manager19:11
pacmansynaptic is the Gnome version of adept, right?19:11
yanewww i just started to use linux so i cant tell u19:12
ardchoillepacman: yes, but a lot of folks think synaptic is much better19:12
pacmanI've never tried it, though my g/f has ubuntu on her box19:12
yanyou could try it19:12
ardchoillepacman: I hate GTK apps, but I use synaptic when I need a gui for package management.19:13
pacmanopening it now19:13
ardchoilleKinda says a lot19:13
ardchoillepacman: Synaptic?19:14
pacmanyes19:14
ardchoillepacman: I'd like to make one suggestion wrt synaptic19:14
pacmanokay19:15
ardchoilleWhen it opens, click on Settings > Preferences and make sure the option "Show package properties in the main window" is checked.19:15
ardchoilleThat will get you a nice "package explanation" in the main window19:15
yeniklasorrWho got worked Ati radeon x1600 successfully? I have problems with beryl and tv capture card. Can you help me?19:19
dthacker-workI think I found the offending packages.  libsmclient, samba-common, and smbclient refuse to update via adept.  Everything else is applied.19:22
pacmanokay, now I'm having an audio issue19:28
pacmanhmm...vlc issue...works fine in mplayer19:30
_Angelus_use amarok ;p19:30
ubuntuPlease help me :D I'm on kubuntu 7.10 live cd at the partitioning phase, I chose manual. How can I set the swap space?19:32
_Angelus_ubuntu simple19:33
ubuntuHow?19:33
_Angelus_create a partition double the size of you're ram and choose to use as swap19:33
_Angelus_:)19:33
ubuntuallright19:33
ubuntu204819:33
_Angelus_yeah19:33
ubuntubut how do I choose it as swap?19:33
_Angelus_and select to use as swap19:33
ubuntuhow to select?19:34
ubuntuthere comes some box19:34
_Angelus_from were you select the size19:34
ubuntuok19:34
_Angelus_yeah19:34
_Angelus_you have an option in that box19:34
ubuntudo I write "swap" in it or?19:34
_Angelus_use as:19:34
_Angelus_no19:34
ubuntuok19:34
_Angelus_it's a drop down box19:34
ubuntuumm19:34
ubuntuext3?19:34
_Angelus_you can select the filesystem type19:34
_Angelus_no19:34
_Angelus_swap19:34
_Angelus_not ext319:34
ubuntuoooooooohhhkdjglkdjgldkfgj19:34
ubuntulol :D19:34
_Angelus_you have a choice called swap19:34
ubuntuthanks alot!19:34
_Angelus_hehe19:34
_Angelus_xD19:34
ubuntuunderstood :D19:34
_Angelus_then make a partition and use it as /19:35
ubuntuI made the ext3 and / now19:35
ubuntuthen swap19:35
_Angelus_i recommand making another to partitions, one as /boot and the other as /home19:35
_Angelus_*two19:35
ubuntuWell I'll make: windows, media, swap and a kubuntu19:35
_Angelus_oh19:35
The_Machinei have an xvid i'm trying to watch with Kaffeine and the video is all weird19:36
_Angelus_why would you do media on a separate partition?19:36
ubuntuwell when windows crashes, then I can reinstall it without problems19:36
ubuntuby media I mean videos etc19:36
The_Machinei'm not sure how to troubleshoot it w/ linux19:36
_Angelus_oh19:36
The_Machineit's obviously a codec problem19:36
The_Machinebut i've played other divx files on here just fine.19:36
_Angelus_ubuntu then why don't you make /home as a separate partition and save you're media in you're /home/user so if you format youre computer you won't loose you're programs settings and you won;t loose you're media :)19:37
ubuntuummm19:37
ubuntuthen I cant read it from windows19:37
ubuntuwell I just want to make partition for media, isn't it ok? :P19:38
ubuntu"no root file system is defined"19:38
ubuntuhow do I define it?19:38
The_Machineyou have to basiclaly put it somewhere19:38
The_Machinehow about /19:38
The_Machineit can't be blank19:39
ubuntuit worked! :D ty19:39
ubuntuyea19:39
ubuntufigured it out19:39
The_Machine:)19:39
jamesarthurhi, anybody get cryptsetup luksformat to work? i can't..........     :(19:39
The_Machinebut wait19:39
The_Machinebefore you do that19:39
The_Machinei don't know if you want to do what you're doing19:39
The_Machinei know what you want to do19:39
The_Machineshared 'media' space19:39
The_Machinebetween both operating systems19:39
ubuntuI already did19:39
ubuntuyea19:39
_Angelus_ubuntu you must choose a partition with mount point /19:39
The_Machinebut why are you putting it at root?  (/)19:39
ubuntuyeye19:39
The_Machinenm19:40
The_Machineyou're high or something.19:40
ubuntuThe_Machine: I haven't created the media partition yet19:40
The_Machineoh, then you're just installing it19:40
ubuntuI'm trying to create it afterwards19:40
ubuntuyea19:40
The_Machineand then you'll make your media partition later19:40
The_Machineokay :)19:40
The_Machineheh19:40
ubuntuthanks for trying to help! :)19:40
The_Machinethanks fine then :)19:40
The_Machinelol19:40
ubuntuI appreciate it19:40
ubuntuFormatting19:40
_Angelus_ubuntu listen , create swap , create the root file system and use it as / , then creat the media partition and mount it at /media/data for example and choose ntfs as partition for it ;019:40
ubuntui love the live cd <3 irc and formatting in a same window!19:40
The_Machine:)19:41
The_Machineyeah, tha'ts awesome19:41
ubuntu_Angelus_: I'll create the media afterwards19:41
_Angelus_well you can create it afterwards too19:41
_Angelus_just leave enough space19:41
sfire_ubuntu type /nick and you can get a nickname also :)19:41
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Eiccaoh ty :D19:42
_Angelus_btw ubuntu i would recomand installing windows first, and instaling kubuntu after, because windows re-writes the boot manager so you will have to boot into the livecd again and re-install grub after installing windows19:42
Eicca_Angelus_: thats what I've done19:42
_Angelus_oh19:42
_Angelus_ok19:42
_Angelus_:p19:42
Eicca:)19:42
EiccaI'm just trying to figure out how to create media partition, put the media from windows partition to media partition, and then resize the windows partition19:43
Eiccaseems like a hard task, since partition magic 8 wasn't able to do it :/19:43
BluDog_Anchoriteany idea why i am getting a 403-forbidden when trying to run updates today ?19:43
BluDog_Anchoriteall the updates for samba today for dapper are getting 403'ed19:44
Eiccathis Konversation seems like cool :P19:44
Eiccaand the whole kde19:44
jamesarthurSysinfo for 'jamespc': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon64X2DualCore5200+ at 1000 MHz (2005 bogomips), , RAM: 527/1772MB, 138 proc's, 25.41min up19:44
EiccaSysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R)Core2CPU6300@1.86GHz at 1600 MHz (3726 bogomips), , RAM: 997/1010MB, 134 proc's, 3.53h up19:45
nosrednaekimwow... thats a low freq X2... how old it is19:45
Eiccapwnt joo :D19:45
nosrednaekimumm how did you get that?19:45
EiccaI wrote /sysinfo19:45
nosrednaekimi'll pwn everyone..19:46
Eicca:P19:46
nosrednaekimSysinfo for 'geebee': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-50 at 800 MHz (1601 bogomips), HD: 38/84GB, RAM: 868/877MB, 127 proc's, 2.17h up19:46
BluDog_Anchoritefailed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbfs_3.0.22-1ubuntu3.4_i386.deb  403 Forbidden19:46
Rukusmy xorg process is running twice19:47
* freqmod_nx too19:47
Rukusis there a reason19:47
nosrednaekimBluDog_Anchorite: try switching mirrors19:47
Eiccaomg "Installing system: 82%"!19:47
BluDog_Anchoritenosrednaekim: while I appreciate the suggestion, I could have done that on my own.  I am asking why, or if anyone else is having a similar issue with that mirror19:47
Rukusi have two xorg processes.  why?19:47
sfire_BluDog_Anchorite: yes.. same here... but you probably already knew that19:48
nosrednaekimBluDog_Anchorite: for some general info on 403 errors ...http://www.checkupdown.com/status/E403.html19:49
ardchoilleBluDog_Anchorite: I just did "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" and didn't get any errors.19:50
BluDog_Anchoriteok, well I just didn't want to have to re-do mirror lists on all my servers19:50
BluDog_Anchoritei'll try that19:50
BluDog_Anchoritebrb19:50
nosrednaekimBluDog_Anchorite: you should run a local apt mirror if you have more than two or three computers.19:50
ardchoillenosrednaekim: Any tutorial on that? I have 11 computers in my home19:51
sfire_in your home :o19:51
nosrednaekimardchoille: yeah.. just a sec19:51
sfire_o.O19:51
nosrednaekimsfire_: 13 here:D19:52
sfire_here I thought I was a nerd19:52
ardchoillelol19:52
nosrednaekimhttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.howtoforge.com%2Flocal_debian_ubuntu_mirror%3Ftopic%3D306349&ei=4PQ9R6qICoeSpwTMy_TACg&usg=AFQjCNHVE8_eg7akGtAO1KPhSuXxWjgQpA&sig2=62yPc8DUdOldCrb85x1yLg19:52
sfire_nothing compared to you guys... I only have 4.. and I consider that to be a few too many19:52
nosrednaekimpardon the google redirect ;)19:52
sfire_I could easily virualize a few19:52
ardchoillenosrednaekim: ty19:52
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jeroenvrpsamba19:57
* BluesKaj wonders if ardchoille has 8 siblings :)19:58
jeroenvrpon the windows-site people must fill in username/password, but samba is set to anonymous; what can be wrong!?19:58
jeroenvrpon commandline at localhost works19:59
jeroenvrpfirewall is open19:59
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: I have 4 if that makes the abundance any better :D19:59
* BluesKaj feels deprived , we only have 2 :)20:00
BluesKajdid have 3 , but donated one to the seniors dropin center20:01
nosrednaekimlol20:01
ardchoilleBluesKaj: No, 11 coputers.. controlling various aspects of the house functions :)20:01
* genii gets ardchoille a complete X10 home automation system for his birthday20:02
ardchoillegenii: That's what we already use :)20:02
ardchoilleNot many people know about those20:02
ardchoillePerl scripts ftw20:02
BluesKajbeleiev it or not there was an old about 75 , who immediately loaded debian sarge on it ..an old electronics guy , who used to have a repair business and had been into computers since around 1975 or so20:03
geniiheh20:03
geniiBluesKaj: Those old electronics guys know stuff. scary stuff like how to get your ham radio working inside a Faraday cage, etc20:04
ardchoillelol20:04
BluesKajhehe yeah , genii :)20:04
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Eiccahello20:05
nosrednaekimhello20:05
Eiccasuccesfully installed <320:05
BluesKajcomputers running house functions ardchoille ...sounds like avery hi tech house20:05
nosrednaekimEicca: kubuntu?20:05
EiccaKopete just wont work20:05
Eiccayea20:05
Eicca7.10 :)20:05
nosrednaekimEicca: whats wrong with it..20:06
Eiccadamn those "debian" texts20:06
Eiccalooks like lesbian20:06
BluesKajgenii, lotsa old houses were faraday cages , plaster lath with the embedded chicken wire in the walls...try running wireless in one of those :)20:07
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: its possible20:07
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: slow though :D20:07
Eiccanosrednaekim: http://i.servut.us/i/kopete_error.png20:08
BluesKajwired works for me , cat5 thru the snake channels I built under the floors for other media , years ago20:08
Eiccaeven the screenshot taking is made so easy in kubuntu ^20:09
Eicca^^20:09
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: yeah, but my dad doesn't like drilling hole everywhere for13 cimputers :D20:09
nosrednaekimEicca: that doens't really help, what were you trying to do with kopete?20:10
BluesKajwe fished lines20:10
zblachhey all20:11
nosrednaekimhey zblach20:11
zblachanyone have samba working as a gobetween with ubuntu and vmware?20:11
Eiccanosrednaekim: while connecting to msn20:11
nosrednaekimEicca: ah... run allof your system updates.20:11
nosrednaekim*all of20:11
Eiccanosrednaekim: ok20:12
Eiccajust running20:12
nosrednaekimEicca: it was a bug in the release version of kdelibs20:12
Eicca"Upgrading Kubuntu to version 7.10" <- lol?20:12
Eiccanosrednaekim: ok20:13
MilitantPotato!kdepim20:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdepim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:14
ardchoilleMilitantPotato: What do you need to know about kdepim, I use it and may be able tohelp20:15
MilitantPotatoI'm curious what it is :)20:15
ardchoilleMilitantPotato: I assume it is Kontact20:15
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nosrednaekimMilitantPotato: it is called "Kontact"20:15
MilitantPotatoah, I marked akregator for removal and it said kdepim needed to be removed aswell20:16
ardchoilleMilitantPotato: akregator is a module of kontact20:16
ardchoilleMilitantPotato: Have you used kontact?20:16
MilitantPotatono.20:16
MilitantPotatoI've just opened it though20:16
ardchoilleIt's quite nice20:17
MilitantPotatokdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.20:17
MilitantPotatois that a common error when running it?20:17
MilitantPotatovery cool application20:18
Eiccahmm20:21
Eicca403 forbidden20:22
nosrednaekimEicca: mirror problems?20:22
Eiccahow can I change it?20:22
Eiccayea20:22
nosrednaekimEicca: try switching mirrors20:22
nosrednaekimuse columbia20:22
Eiccahow?20:22
polo2I have the same error with the lasts 3 news actualisations and my native language is spanish20:23
polo2403 forbidden20:23
nosrednaekimEicca: Adept->adept->manage repositories20:23
nosrednaekimuhh oh...i'm seeing something coming here...20:23
Eiccato what do i change these :P20:24
nosrednaekimEicca: leave all the check marks.. marked as they were.20:24
BluesKajzblach, try  typing smb:/ in konq , doen't work in FF and I dunno about IE in VMWare20:24
Eiccaok, I changed to "Main Server"20:24
zblachit works fine in konq20:24
nosrednaekimEicca: try using columbia as I KNOW that works.20:24
zblachi'm just having trouble accessing my samba shares from vmware20:25
Eiccanosrednaekim: I'll try the main first20:25
nosrednaekimok20:25
BluesKajyeah , vmware does that20:25
zblachit does20:25
zblachwell, it should20:25
zblachshared on my vmachine shows only itself20:26
BluesKajzblach, you may have to run the network wizard in windows/vmware20:27
EiccaI'm creating a Guest account, what privileges should I give to it?20:28
EiccaI don't want it to be able to log as root20:28
Eiccaor change settings20:28
nosrednaekimEicca: then just leave the settings as default20:28
Eiccaokay20:29
Eiccacool20:29
zblachBluesKaj: it's an issue of vmware being unable contact the outside network20:29
polo2What can I do with 403 forbbiden error?20:30
nosrednaekimEicca: did switching mirrors help your 403?20:30
BluesKajyes, i had the same problem ... trying to configure networking  vmware is harder than doing it in linux20:30
Eiccayea :)20:30
Eiccathanks20:31
nosrednaekimpolo2: switch mirrors20:31
EiccaMain server still works20:31
EiccaOr atleast if you use English as language20:31
nosrednaekim:D20:31
BluesKajzblach, what's the issue that you need to use vmware to connec to the net20:31
Eiccalol "could not commit updates"20:31
Eiccastill succesfully completed20:32
Eiccaumm20:32
Eiccawhat ever20:32
Eiccakopete goes20:32
nosrednaekimweird20:32
Eiccayea20:32
nosrednaekimdoes kopete work now?20:32
EiccaI think that the 3 last updates wasnt so important20:32
Eiccatesting20:32
polo2mirrors 0k. My native language is spanish but I understanded. Thanks.20:32
Eiccayea works20:32
Eiccathanks again :D20:32
Eiccapolo2 I ment if you can download spanish language packets from the Main Server20:33
Eiccawhat ever20:33
Eiccawhere can I check if my gfx card drivers are installed or not?20:35
nosrednaekimEicca: "restricted-manager-kde20:35
nosrednaekimor systemsettings->advanced->restrictedmanager20:35
Eiccaok20:37
Eiccadownloading20:37
Eicca:)20:37
Eiccanext stop: Wine20:37
Eiccaneeds computer restart20:37
Eiccabrb20:37
ardchoilleEicca: Wait20:38
ardchoilleEicca: Did you just install graphics drivers?20:38
Eiccayea20:38
ardchoilleDon't need to reboot for that20:38
Eicca?20:38
Eiccaoh20:38
Eiccathen what? =)20:38
ardchoilleJust need to restart xorg:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart20:39
Eiccaok20:39
Eiccaty20:39
nosrednaekimEicca: save anything you have open before you run that;)20:39
ardchoilleEicca: Rarely do you need to reboot Linux20:39
Eiccaokay20:39
Eiccacool20:39
Eiccathe kubuntu booting is kinda slow20:39
ardchoillenosrednaekim: Glad you caught that, I'll make sure to say that in the future20:40
nosrednaekimEicca: that was probably just the first boot20:40
nosrednaekimi'm down to 45 seconds here20:40
Eiccaok20:40
Eiccaoh yea20:40
Eiccathe first boot must be slower20:40
ardchoilleNaturally20:40
nosrednaekimthats 45 seconds to a usable desktop... about 30 seconds to KDM20:40
ubuntuHi guys, I'm in the Live CD (7.04), and its because my system got ruined, I can't start up normall anymore. At the time that the Graphical login window appears, only thing that happens is that the kubuntu startup bar appears, it's empty and it isn't moving, when I press the power button on my computer then the bar starts to get to decrease and the computer shuts off20:40
nosrednaekimubuntu: you can go "ctrl+alt+f1" and see the boot up logs and have the ability to log in from the command line20:41
mastermanx2005is thier a way to get some one ip with kubuntu20:41
nosrednaekimmastermanx2005: what do you mean?20:42
Eiccanosrednaekim: whats the partition tool for kubuntu?20:42
nosrednaekim!partitions20:42
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter20:42
mastermanx2005like getting some one ip adress20:42
mastermanx2005cuz i know cmd netstat -n u can do20:42
nosrednaekimmastermanx2005: check out "whois"20:42
ubuntunosrednaekim , whats the point in logging in from command line, i somehow managed to do that, but I can't even imagine what that would do to solve the booting problem20:43
nosrednaekimubuntu: its probably X..20:43
ubuntunosrednaekim , Ok, is it possible to fix X :)?20:43
ardchoilleubuntu: There's a wealth of things you can do with that, like cat file, sudo apt-get install/remove, top, screen, etc20:43
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nosrednaekimubuntu: you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and then "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"20:44
nosrednaekimand if it fails,it will tell you why20:44
ubuntunosrednaekim , is there any way to do that without leaving the LIve CD :) ?20:44
icheynehi all. I am trying to "apt-get upgrade", but I am getting "403 - Forbidden" errors from http://security.ubuntu.com. What is going on?20:44
nosrednaekimubuntu: no20:45
nosrednaekimicheyne: switch to the main us mirror20:45
icheynenosrednaekim: do you know why it's broken?20:45
ubuntunosrednaekim , those commands are spelled right right?, I'll writte em down and try20:45
ardchoillenosrednaekim: Can't he use mount and nano to fix his xorg.conf?20:46
urbmenI am having trouble installing Unreal tournament 2004 on Kubuntu can any one tell me how to do it20:46
nosrednaekimubuntu: yeah, they are right.20:47
nosrednaekimardchoille: IDK what the [problem is... easier to do a dpkg-reconfigure20:47
ardchoilletrue20:47
ubuntunosrednaekim , Thanks alot, I'll try that, so I press ctrl+alt+f1 after I get stuck?20:47
nosrednaekimyeah.20:47
nosrednaekimmaybe ctrl+alt +f2 it sometimes depends20:48
urbmenits got the linux installer on disk one but I have no idea how to install it20:48
ubuntucya soon :)20:48
icheynenosrednaekim: I am using http://security.ubuntu.com - isn't that the main mirror?20:48
nosrednaekimicheyne: yes, and its broken, try the main us one, or anything else.20:49
urbmen!.sh20:49
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal20:49
eiccawhy do I need to use "Automatic Image Adjustion" on my view sonics VA903b every time the kde starts?20:50
eiccaand that command didnt work20:50
eiccahad to reboot20:50
nosrednaekimeicca: it probably got messed up by the boot splash20:50
alucardromeroAnybody have any experience with Atheros wireless cards?  They give me mad loads of diarrhea.20:51
eiccanosrednaekim: yea, but it gets every time I open it20:51
nosrednaekimalucardromero: yalp.. got one.20:51
eiccacan I change the resolution of the splash?20:51
alucardromeroHow did you get yours to work?20:51
urbmendoes anybody play unrela tournament 200420:52
nosrednaekimalucardromero: default driver ussually works, when it doesn't I use ndiswrapper20:52
urbmenunreal*20:52
nosrednaekimalucardromero: what chipset have you got?20:52
icheynethanks nosrednaekim20:52
alucardromeroCeleron 53020:52
nosrednaekimalucardromero: no... I mean which atherso chipset?20:53
nosrednaekimalucardromero: "lspci"20:53
puzzudhey guys, what's up with the "Forbidden" message when I try to download http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/libsmbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb20:54
alucardromeroOh... um, ...20:54
alucardromero06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)20:54
nosrednaekimeww.... 500620:54
alucardromeroYeah.20:54
nosrednaekimalucardromero: use ndiswrapper :D20:54
alucardromeroDo I blacklist the restricted driver?20:54
eiccanosrednaekim: can I change the resolution of the splash screen to 1280x1024?20:54
nosrednaekimeicca: hrm...not sure.... you can change its res, but i'm not sure how high.20:55
eiccak20:56
dthacker-workpuzzud: don't know, I'm getting it too.20:56
dthacker-workI must have forgot to register ;)20:56
puzzudyea, and I was really happy to do a online upgrade20:56
arashnosrednaekim , Yay, that commando worked, I was ubuntu recently20:57
nosrednaekimarash: ok.. sweert20:57
puzzudhttp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/libsmbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb and similar files are all dated for today20:57
* dthacker-work left his coffee in the break room.....20:57
puzzudcreated/uploaded20:58
puzzudis it possible someone didn't set the correct group access rights on them?20:58
arashnosrednaekim: well, one thing for both of us, maybe you shouldnt tell newbies to type \ sudo dpkg/reconfigure xserver/xorg . non of what said there maid sense20:58
eiccanosrednaekim: is there a virtual machine available on kubuntu? some that could run windows xp20:58
nosrednaekimeicca: virtualbox20:58
nosrednaekimarash: well, if you go with the defaults,you are good :D20:59
arashbut restarting x worked, but not my keyboard layout is changed , and also, I wonder if my ATI drivers is uninstalled now, can I upgrade to 7.1020:59
arashnosrednaekim , I just pressed esc out of scareness >D20:59
eiccanosrednaekim: is it good?20:59
nosrednaekimarash: your ati drivers are probably still installed, but not being used21:00
nosrednaekimeicca: excellent21:00
nosrednaekimeicca: youneed over a gig of ram though..21:00
eiccanosrednaekim: I like the sound of that :P21:00
eiccaWell I have 1 gig21:00
eiccain windows the microsoft virtual machine worked fine21:00
nosrednaekimok... you should be good then21:00
nosrednaekimok21:00
nosrednaekimeicca: you will have to reinstall WindowsXP into it21:01
eiccanosrednaekim: I know21:02
nosrednaekimeicca: you aren't going to be playing any games in it though.21:07
eiccaI know that too ;)21:08
nosrednaekimeicca: this your first time using linux?21:08
eiccaumm no21:08
arashnosrednaekim , why can't you play games in a virtual machine?21:08
nosrednaekimI ask...cause I want to stop assuming that you know nothing..21:08
nosrednaekimok.. good XD21:08
eiccaI know just very little :P21:09
eiccaarash you'd need a very fast computer21:09
nosrednaekimarash: no 3d acceleration21:09
eiccaat all?21:09
eiccawhat about for example java games21:09
eiccathat has a little 3d21:09
arashnosrednaekim: can I  play 10/13 year old games if I got a very good graphics card :p?21:09
nosrednaekimeicca: only what can be done on your CPU21:10
eiccaumm ok21:10
Dr_WillisI play games in 'virtual' machines all the time.21:10
eiccaFor example runescape?21:10
draremok so i have glade and anjuta, now what...21:11
nosrednaekimarash: actually, anything more than 5-6 years old will play decently21:11
eiccaI want to run macro on it21:11
puzzudis anyone here a kubuntu dev?21:11
Dr_WillisC64, amiga, Dosbox,  ect..  and all the mame games.. :021:11
draremon glade, the menu shows up in the middle of the window maximized, like any button or image control I add to it21:11
draremit's confusing21:11
nosrednaekimeicca: don't know what that is.21:11
arashnosrednaekim: sounds interesting, I'll keep the name of it in mind :)21:11
eiccanosrednaekim: www.runescape.com21:11
slow-motionre21:11
eiccabut yea21:12
eiccaI have to go to sleep21:12
nosrednaekimpuzzud: they hang out over at #kubuntu-devel21:12
eiccathanks alot guys and see you!21:12
puzzudnosrednaekim: thx21:12
nosrednaekimdrarem: wrong channel for glade.21:12
draremheh, don't have channel operator access to #glade21:12
nosrednaekimdrarem: try #ubuntu-motu21:13
draremthanks :)21:14
nosrednaekimor #ubunt-devel21:14
nosrednaekimor #gnome21:14
draremcool21:14
BluDog_Anchoritewell, aparently the 403 errors are a known issue.  Looks like i will have to wait until they fix the updates.21:26
KDEusrsynaptic transaction set check failed21:40
KDEusranyone know why?21:40
Dr_Willischeck is in the mail?21:41
Dr_Willis:)21:41
ardchoillehahaha21:42
Henkiehi, my kdm doesnt recognize my default kde21:43
Henkiewhere is the setting responsible?21:44
Henkieit always start gnome21:44
Henkiestarts21:44
jpatrickHenkie: in session menu press kde21:44
Henkiejpatrick, yeah, but it doesnt remember21:44
jpatrickhmm21:45
ardchoilleI thought kdm rememberd the last session and set it to default21:45
Henkiesame here, but it doesnt21:45
Dr_Willisthe users have a .dmrc file (i think) that it saves it in.21:45
Dr_Willissome times that file gets the wrong permissions and cant be saved21:46
Henkieah, sounds about right21:46
ardchoilleDr_Willis: my ~/.dmrc file says:  Session=default21:46
sn00zerHenkie: check this forum: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/27155-making-kde-default-session.html21:46
Henkiei moved my home dir to another uid because of winbind21:46
Dr_Willisardchoille change it to kde then. :) or just delete the file21:47
Dr_Willisit will remake it next time you liogin21:47
ardchoilleAh, ok21:47
Henkiealright, i'll try it at work tomorrow21:48
arashHi, I try to upgrade to Gutsy, but I get this error after a short while http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44807/21:48
WaltzingAlongarash: should comment out those anyway since they are for feisty and you are on gutsy now21:50
arashWaltzingAlong: huh? Im on 7.04 now, I want to upgrade to 7.10, and during that installatioon with adept it hangs and says that those 3 lines are the problem21:52
ardchoillearash: What he meant was that if you are upgrading *to* Gutsy, you shouldn't have any Feisty repos enabled21:53
arashardchoille: ah OK :), what acction should be taken21:53
arash?21:53
ardchoillearash: as WaltzingAlong mentioned, comment out all the Fesity repos21:54
arashardchoille: /etc/sources ?21:54
ardchoillearash: But, there's a better way to upgrade21:54
ardchoille!upgrade | arash21:54
ubotuarash: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes21:54
Henkiehow do i get rid of dash?21:54
Henkiebecause it kinda annoys me21:55
ardchoille!info dash21:55
ubotudash: The Debian Almquist Shell. In component main, is required. Version 0.5.4-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 85 kB, installed size 208 kB21:55
ardchoilleWell, that description helped a lot21:55
arashardchoille: huh?, not through the KDE applications?21:55
Henkie:)21:55
Henkiei kinda said i couldnt  :P21:55
Henkiei -> it21:55
BluesKajarash, upgrading from launchpad ?21:55
ardchoillearash: I was under the impression that the gui upgrader took care of that for you21:55
arashBluesKaj: I followed the steps that were mentioned in the channels topic21:56
arashin the link in the channels topic *21:56
ardchoilleamaranth.. I recognise that word from somewhere21:56
MaTiAzNightwish?21:57
arashardchoille: hmm, maybe I should comment em out manually?21:57
ardchoillearash: I would. /etc/apt/sources.list21:58
Henkiekde printing seems not to work, but printing from a gnome app does work21:59
Henkiewhat can be the problem?22:00
ardchoillearash: Where did you get those sources from anyway (amaranth)?22:00
arashardchoille: dunno, :p, probably some manual told me too :)22:01
arashardchoille: u know where they are from?22:01
ardchoillearash: Ok, the only reason I asked is because those sources are missing the "component"22:02
sn00zeri'm using beryl (i know its outdated) but aquamarine crashed and now all the window decorators disappeared from the list except gtk\22:02
sn00zerany clue as to what happened?22:02
arashardchoille: u use 7.10 ?22:02
ardchoillearash: Yes22:02
arashardchoille: hehe, Im gonna be enjoying KDE 3.5.8 anytime now :D22:03
ardchoilleIt's nice. I had my doubts about upgrading, but I'm glad I did. Kubuntu ROCKS!22:03
arashardchoille: hehe, well, cya , it tells me to close down all programs,22:04
ardchoilleok22:04
sn00zeranyone?22:04
MilitantPotatomy wife keeps getting 403 forbidden messages trying to upgrade samba via synaptic or adept, anyone else having this problem?22:04
ardchoille!beryl | sn00zer22:05
ubotusn00zer: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz22:05
ardchoilleMilitantPotato: Might be a problem with the repos.. althought it isn't often, it's known to happen22:05
sn00zeri know know.... upgrade...22:05
Daisuke-IdoMilitantPotato: about everyone's having the problem22:05
MilitantPotatoOk, atleast it's not a local issue :)22:06
Daisuke-Idoardchoille: right now it seems very widespread22:06
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ardchoilleDaisuke-Ido: Ah, ok22:06
Daisuke-Idobut i have faith it will be restored to glory shortly22:06
sn00zeris the compiz in the fiesty repos the same as compiz-fusion?22:07
MilitantPotatoare you using amaranth's repo?22:07
sn00zertalking to me MilitantPotato?22:08
MilitantPotatoyea22:08
sn00zeri doubt it, i'm using the default repos22:08
MilitantPotatois compiz included in the feisty repos now?22:08
BluesKajhmm, seems to me only certain countries are having repository/install-update probs , but not all. I haven't seen it in .ca repos ...but the prob could be package dependent22:08
ardchoille!info compiz22:08
ubotucompiz: OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1.1 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 64 kB22:08
ardchoilleBluesKaj: No problems here (http://archive.ubuntu.com/blah)22:09
sn00zerwell there's compiz, compiz-core, compiz-dev, compiz-extra, compiz-gnome, compiz-gtk, compiz-kde, and compiz-plugins under aptitude but could that be the old compiz?22:10
arashdang22:10
arashsame problem, but new sources22:10
arashhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44813/22:11
ardchoillearash: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ? I'll have a look22:11
arashany ideas?22:11
ardchoillearash: That looks like the same issue others are having right now22:11
arashoh, so theres nothing to do about it :< ?22:12
ardchoilleNot at the moment22:13
tiltI'm a new user of Kubuntu and it's the first time that i wanna install a prog wich isn't on Add/Rem prog. How i'm supposed to do that?22:13
arashardchoille , then Im gonna be an Vista user until the CD's arrive :(22:14
ehird`tilt: First you must flip the magnetic quantum flux of your soul.22:14
arashtilt , have you tried adept-manager?22:14
ehird`tilt: Then, you must reinforce the portal to exemplify its positive/negative output points.22:14
tiltyes... the prog is not in..22:14
ehird`tilt: Then, you must start konsole and type "sudo apt-get install PACKAGENAME".22:14
ehird`Actually you only have to do the last bit.22:14
tiltnice thx i take this in note22:14
ardchoilleehird`: That's not helping22:15
ehird`ardchoille: Hey! I did help. ... eventually22:15
ardchoillehehe22:15
myrdosHow can I tell what the dungeon I'm in is called?22:16
myrdosLike "gnomish mines" or "sokoban"22:16
myrdosIs there a way?22:16
Daisuke-Idohuh?22:17
arashwell, thanks anyway :)22:17
BluesKajardchoille, this one is ok, http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/22:17
ardchoilleBluesKaj: Ah, thanks22:18
tiltE: Couldn't find package poweriso.tar.gz22:18
tiltwhere the package should be?22:18
ehird`tilt: don't install from a tar.22:19
ehird`tilt: try 'sudo apt-get install poweriso', failing that google for ubuntu packages22:19
BluesKajtar files are normally not listed in repositories that adept and synaptic use22:19
ehird`failing that, get dirty with the command line and compile it yourself with that tar22:20
BluesKajnot impressed with the latest version of poweriso22:20
tilthave  you another prog that read .daa?22:21
BluesKajit's hacked from the windows app22:21
ehird`BluesKaj: does it use WINE? :|22:21
ehird`if so i wish they didn't say it supports Linux. Ive seen loads of things saying 'Supports linux too, with WINE!' and I just think 'no. just no.'22:21
BluesKajdunno , ehird` ..using kiso or k3b22:22
tiltk3b do not open it22:22
BluesKajthe older vesions of acetoneiso were good22:22
BluesKajbut not the newer ones22:23
Greeneryi cant update samba from the current update, something about commiting22:24
BluesKajehird`, tilt , I used poweriso in windows and it was clunky22:24
Dr_Willisive herad of some others with similer issues Greenery - i think there may be a bug in the updates22:24
Dr_WillisGreenery may want to try again in a day or so22:24
Greeneryokies22:25
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rayluis it just me or is http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/libsmbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb giving a 403?22:26
rayluas is all architectures of that one file, but nothing else22:26
ardchoilleraylu: At the moment, several users have reported that problem.22:26
rayluok, thanks22:27
slow-motionn822:27
MilitantPotatoGnome is currently my login manager, how do I set KDE to handle it?22:30
ardchoilleMilitantPotato: /etc/X11/default-display-manager  ?22:31
MilitantPotato/usr/sbin/gdm22:32
MilitantPotatochange it to /usr/sbin/kdm ?22:32
BluesKajMilitantPotato, system settings/user management/admin mode22:32
ardchoilleMine has  /usr/bin/kdm  and I use kdm22:32
* ardchoille likes BluesKaj's idea better22:32
ardchoilleBluesKaj: But, without a gui, would that be the correct file to edit?22:33
fairesHello22:34
MilitantPotatoBluesKaj: what am I modifying in here?22:34
fairesHow can I convert files to 3gp on Kubuntu?22:34
BluesKajardchoille, dunno , I normally use the gui ...it's easier for us old windows users :)22:34
ardchoille:)22:34
fairesI tried ffmpeg, but it doesn't have a 3gp support when downloading through Adept22:35
ardchoilleI always like to know the cli way of doing things in case a gui breaks. But, I've never had a gui break.22:35
faires(at least it's accusing it)22:35
fairesubotu: 3gp22:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:35
tiltroot@CPE00112f54d8de-CM00111adeaa42:~# tar zxvf poweriso.tar.gz                        in wich folder it needed to be?22:35
fairesubotu: viedo22:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about viedo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:35
fairesubotu: video22:35
ubotuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications22:35
BluesKajMilitantPotato, the users and groups , there should be listings for gnome and kde users22:36
leo_rockwhello everyone22:36
leo_rockwcan someone help me set up kpf?22:36
ardchoilletilt: Are you logged into the root account? You can use sudo for tar22:37
MilitantPotatoBluesKaj: yea, it lists me, but I'm not seeing an option to change the login windows manager..?  It's using the GDM login screen and options, instead of KDE's22:37
tiltardchoille:  i have use sudo su - and i enter my password before i write down this command..22:37
ubuntuI am just about at wits end here with these STUPID partitioning programs on the live cds!!!!22:38
ubuntuwhy is my drive status "busy" when nothing's mounted?!!22:38
fairesHow can I convert files to 3gp on Kubuntu? I tried ffmpeg, but it doesn't have a 3gp support when downloading through Adept (or at least it say so)22:38
MilitantPotatowhen I first installed KDE on my Ubuntu install it asked if I wanted to use GDM or KDM as a login manager, I chose GDM because I wanted to try KDE first.  Turns out I prefer it and want KDE to handle the login screen.22:39
leo_rockwubuntu: if the program is so "stupid" then program your own, otherwise don't complain22:39
hydrogenleo_rockw: thats a stupid way to look at it.22:39
ubuntuim not getting mnuch help here22:39
ubuntuthis is day 222:39
ubuntui tried to gparted live cd, and it just crashes22:39
leo_rockwhydrogen: you can't say something is stupid when someone put a lot of effort into it22:39
hydrogenleo_rockw: one can complain about how bad a program is without having a better alternative22:39
ardchoilletilt: Ok, just for future reference, there is hardly a need to use su, using sudo can do most everything. I've been using ubuntu since 2004 and never have needed to be in a root shell22:40
hydrogenleo_rockw: sure you can.. we say it about windows all the time22:40
leo_rockwhydrogen: then program one yourself22:40
MilitantPotatoubuntu Serial or ATA?22:40
hydrogenleo_rockw: why?22:40
hydrogenleo_rockw: I can call it stupid without doing so22:40
leo_rockwhydrogen: why not?22:40
ubuntuMilitantPotato: ATA22:40
leo_rockwhydrogen: that's being ungrateful22:40
hydrogenleo_rockw: because programming my own doesn't automatically make the other more or less stupid22:40
MilitantPotatoubuntu do you have the jumpers set correctly?22:40
ubuntuIt claims my old swap drive from the partition im trying to erase is mounted22:40
leo_rockwhydrogen: the source is there, if you want to make it better, then make it better22:40
hydrogenleo_rockw: right, but even if I don't make it better it doesn't stop it from being stupid22:40
ubuntuMilitantPotato: its been working fine.22:41
leo_rockwhydrogen: if you don't make it better, then don't complain22:41
hydrogenlogic is good.22:41
hydrogenleo_rockw: No, I'm free to complain about it.22:41
leo_rockwhydrogen: the program is not stupid if it works for others22:41
hydrogenleo_rockw: if I choose to22:41
hydrogenleo_rockw: err, let me bring up windows again?22:41
tiltardchoille:  ok... and you said that i can install a .tar.gz with sudo? the guys before you just said   that it was impossible22:41
leo_rockwhydrogen: i never called windows stupid22:41
hydrogenleo_rockw: nope, but we all think it22:41
ubuntuI did.22:41
leo_rockwhydrogen: so your logic ends there22:41
leo_rockwhydrogen: this is OT anyway22:41
leo_rockwhydrogen: i don't22:41
hydrogenleo_rockw: at least my logic started somewhere.22:41
hydrogenanyways22:41
hydrogenoff topic22:41
hydrogenlets move on22:41
ardchoilletilt: tar packs and unpacks files, you can do that with sudo, it's not impossible. Someone gave you bad info.22:42
leo_rockwhydrogen: mine too: you don't like the program, don't use it, but don't complain22:42
ubuntuI thought windows is stupid was a statement... not like, a question or an opinion.22:42
MilitantPotatoi did sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm and chose KDM, lets see if that works :)22:42
hydrogenones free to have an opinion without 1000000 LOC to back it up.22:42
hydrogenand ones free to express that opinion22:42
leo_rockwhydrogen: not when you're complaining about someone's hard work22:42
MilitantPotatotilt: I'd think you'd need to build it if it's a source file22:42
leo_rockwif you complain to make things better, fine. if not, your complain is useless22:42
ubuntuSooooo why is my drive considered "busy" by qtparted?22:42
hlopezHi, anyone knows how to install Xmule?22:43
hydrogenleo_rockw: even if its useless (in your opinion) its still my (or whoevers) opinion22:43
jpatrickubuntu: cos it's mounted?22:43
tiltMilitantPotato:  ok and how i do that?22:43
MilitantPotatoubuntu chances are it's mounted22:43
leo_rockwhydrogen: then say "it doesn't work for me"22:43
ubuntuMilitantPotato: I tried umount -a22:43
leo_rockwhydrogen: that doesn't make the program stupid22:43
MilitantPotato!source22:43
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html22:43
hydrogenleo_rockw: no, programs can be stupid and still work for me22:43
MilitantPotatohmm22:43
ubuntuMilitantPotato: nor do i see it when i do 'mount'22:43
hydrogenprograms stupidity (how they are designed) is orthagonal to their functionality22:44
Agrekenhello all22:44
ubuntuim on a live disc, trying to erase my old linux partition so i can make a new one22:44
leo_rockwhydrogen: the program works for everyone except for ubuntu22:44
hlopezThanks!22:44
hydrogenleo_rockw: I highly doubt that as well.22:44
ubuntui dont doubt it, that happens a lot22:44
MilitantPotato!build22:44
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)22:44
leo_rockwhydrogen: i haven't heard any other reasonable complain other than ubuntu's "this program is stupid"22:44
Agrekencan someone help a noob connect to his external usb drive?22:44
MilitantPotatotilt: read that link22:44
leo_rockwif your complain is something like "the program is not working well because of so and so" that's a complain22:45
tilti'm reading it22:45
leo_rockwotherwise you're just trolling22:45
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ubuntuyadda yadda. When am i going to get this stupid thing installed...22:45
leo_rockwubuntu: welcome to my ignore list22:46
ubuntuHow about QTParted should have an 'unmount' option, and it should handle ext3 like gparted? Or how about, we should have gparted on the live cd instead of this old thing?22:46
MilitantPotatoubuntu: try swapoff -a22:46
ubuntuhmm22:46
ubuntuok lets see22:46
tiltE: Unable to find a source package for poweriso.tar.gz22:47
Agrekencan someone help a noob connect to his external usb drive?22:47
hydrogenerrr22:47
hydrogenplug it in22:47
hydrogenand then22:47
MilitantPotatotilt: did you change the directory to your folder?22:47
hydrogenturn it on22:47
ubuntuBINGO22:47
hydrogenand watch the magic happen22:47
Agrekenlol22:47
ubuntuMilitantPotato: You saved my life22:47
MilitantPotatoubuntu: google works wonders :)(22:47
AgrekenI got that far :)22:47
tiltMilitantPotato: it is in desktop22:47
Agrekenbut no magic22:48
ubuntuMilitantPotato: what did you look up? lol!22:48
MilitantPotatohttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Unmount+SWAP+partition&btnG=Search22:48
MilitantPotatofirst hit had that command22:48
MilitantPotatotilt22:48
ubuntuslick22:48
MilitantPotatocd /home/username/Desktop22:48
MilitantPotatoinsert your username where the username bit is22:48
jjoneswho do I report problems to http://security.ubuntu.com to?  File permissions aren't set for files modified today.. can't upgrade!22:49
MilitantPotato!bug22:49
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots22:49
tiltMilitantPotato:  E: Unable to find a source package for poweriso.tar.gz22:50
jjonesit's not a bug.. just an administration problem for the file server.22:50
wpkhttp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba-common_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb22:51
wpkI'm gettin 40322:51
tiltMilitantPotato:  tilt@CPE00112f54d8de-CM00111adeaa42:~/Desktop$ apt-get source poweriso-1.122:51
jjonesgo to http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/ and try to access any file changed today22:51
nick_Hey everyone, I have been in and out of this chatroom a lot in the past week asking for help to all kinds of things.  I just got kbuntu 3 weeks ago (only windows previously) and it has been a great experience, especially because you were all so friendly and helpful.  Especially you ScorpKing, if you are here, you have been a great consistent help for almost every question I've asked and I fixed that internet problem I was having with a bit of a workaround.22:51
nick_So, thanks again everyone22:51
ardchoilleThat is why I love this community ^^22:53
leo_rockwnick_: the community needs more people like you22:54
Agrekendo i have to configure anything special to access my external usb drive?22:54
jjonesAgreken, no, it should be recognized when you plug it in... a dialog should pop up with options22:55
Agrekenany suggestions if it doesn't?22:57
jjoneshmm.. well, if it doesn't for me it usually means I plugged the sd card in upside down in my reader ;)22:57
jjonesbut I think I had an issue otherwise a while ago..22:57
MilitantPotatotilt: no idea man, It's not working for me either.22:58
smallfieldshelp, my kubuntu doesnt pass the login window, it always says my password is wrong, im sure its right...22:58
jjonesAgreken, are you familiar with dmesg in the terminal?22:59
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FroggyTheGreatSo...How much space does 7.10 need?23:00
BluesKajFroggyTheGreat, which install are using ?23:01
BluesKajyou23:01
FroggyTheGreatThe standard Kubuntu 7.10 livecd.23:01
jjonesAgreken, if you type dmesg at a terminal window right after you plug in the sd card it should give you some hints as to what is happening.23:01
BluesKajFroggyTheGreat, and what kinds of apps do you intend to use23:01
Agrekenok, let me check that23:01
FroggyTheGreatJust general office and puttering-around stuff - no huge games or anything.23:02
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lounge-aboutanyone really familiar with dpkg?23:03
BluesKajI'd give kubuntu , if you're into media and photos, mp3s etc at least a 20G partition...30Gwould be better if you intend to burn movies etc23:03
BluesKaj!dpkg23:03
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.23:03
lounge-aboutim having a problem removing a package23:03
FroggyTheGreatI've got a 108gb drive.  I'm going to mount /home on the partitiion left from whatever the system gets.23:04
lounge-aboutwould it be ok if i pasted a small terminal output?23:04
Agrekenjjones: it looks like everything is loading correctly. how do I navigate to it?23:04
BluesKajFroggyTheGreat, you got lots then: :)23:04
FroggyTheGreatBasically, I can't find the "Minimum System Requirements" page and I'm looking around.23:04
Daisuke_Laptoplounge-about: general rule of thumb is: one or two lines is fine, more than that you should pastebin it23:05
FroggyTheGreatLooks like a 30gb system partition should be plenty then?23:05
jjonesAgreken, it should be in /media/disk/   the dmesg might tell you where it was mounted otherwise.. /media/camera etc23:05
Daisuke_LaptopBluesKaj: 30gb for multimedia?  i would have to delete about 400gb of stuff >_>23:05
FroggyTheGreatBasically, anything that I don't want destroyed if I have to wipe and reinstall is going on the non-system partition.23:06
BluesKajDaisuke_Laptop, wasn't alking about storage , just a 'working' type partition...was assuming he was gonna dual boot with windows23:07
jjonesAreken,  dmesg just shows which device I guess..  sda sdb etc.. typing  mount  will sho you if it was mounted.23:07
faires!convert23:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:07
Agrekenjjones, it doesn't look like it ever mounts. it sees it, but no mount messages23:07
jjonesAgreken, does /dev/sdb ( or whatever dmesg said it was) show up when you type mount?23:07
Agrekenjjones, no, only /dev/sda123:08
BluesKajfaires, convert what ?23:08
fairesBluesKaj: an mpeg-avi to 3gp23:08
faires(The cell phone format)23:08
fairesI found ffmpeg23:09
jjonesAgreken, dmesg showed the usb drive as sdb correct?23:09
fairesBut the adept install doesn't recognize .3gp support23:09
fairesThe adept install of ffmpeg, I mean23:09
jjonesAgreken, if you type    sudo pmount /dev/sdb1 /media/disk     what happens?23:09
Agrekenjjones, however, i see one that says "proc on /proc type proc" which is what the drive shows up as in System Settings23:09
jjonesAgreken, hmm.. proc is another thing entirely ( you can see system process info there)23:10
jjonesis there a udev on /dev line ?23:11
Agreken"pmount: command not found"23:11
jjonesdid you do sudo pmount?23:11
Agrekenyes23:11
BluesKajfaires, 3X 3GP Video Converter at http://www.3gp.com/23:11
Agreken"udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)23:11
BluesKajfaires, prolly have to run it in wine23:12
fairesDoesn't have a free version?23:13
BluesKajdunno23:13
jjonesteh udev line is correct. udev is what should be mounting the usb key for you.23:13
faires:(23:13
fairesThanks a lot, anyway23:13
BluesKajdo a google23:13
jjonestry    sudo apt-get install pmount23:13
jjonesI need to go soon..23:13
Agrekenjjones installing now23:14
jeremeare the missing samba packages a common topic today for 7.10?23:14
jjonesthen try the pmount command again23:14
jjonesbrb23:15
Agrekenjjones, Error: device /dev/sdb1 is not removable23:15
Agrekenmount23:15
Agrekenmt23:15
jjonesahh.. what did dmesg say23:15
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jjonessdb: Write Protect is off23:16
jjones[63192.372000] sdb: Mode Sense: 23 00 00 0023:16
jjones[63192.372000] sdb: assuming drive cache: write through23:16
jjones[63192.372000]  sdb: sdb123:16
jjones[63192.376000] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdb23:16
Agrekenkeeps saying something about it being SCSI, which it isnt23:16
Agrekensdc?23:16
DreskenWhen I try to run the synaptic package manager I  get an error saying "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "23:16
DreskenAny idea how to resolve this issue?23:16
jjonesit is a scsi device in this case..23:17
jjonesor at least it uses the scsi driver or something..23:17
jjonesdo you get a line like this: sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdb23:17
arianehi. i'm trying to emulate N64 games with mupen64 and kamefu but neither of them is working. i downloaded roms, unzipped them in a folder and kamefu doesn't even see the files.  mupen64 sees the files but does nothing with them. could someone help me work this out please ?23:18
cpk1Dresken: run 'dpkg --configure -a' ?23:18
Agrekenno, I see usb 3-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 1223:19
compilerwriterOk folks I am having trouble getting printer sharing set up with an XP machine.  I have tried to follow a thing I found online but kde must be a bit different.  Anyone able to walk me through it quickly?23:19
Agrekenand usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice23:19
Dreskencpk1: I did, but it didn't do anything23:19
Agrekenand23:19
Agrekenusb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice23:19
Agreken[11041.624000] scsi12 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices23:19
jjonesAgreken, are you using a hub?23:19
Agrekenno, laptop tho, if that matters23:20
cpk1Dresken: didnt give you any output just line returned?23:20
arianehi. i'm trying to emulate N64 games with mupen64 and kamefu but neither of them is working. i downloaded roms, unzipped them in a folder and kamefu doesn't even see the files.  mupen64 sees the files but does nothing with them. could someone help me work this out please ?23:21
cpk1compilerwriter: iirc kde has a very easy wizard to set it up...23:22
BluesKajcompilerwriter,to which OS is the printer connected /23:22
DreskenNevermind, fixed it, thanks anyway cpk1 :)23:22
jjonesAgreken,  nothing more after the "emulation for USB Mass Stor.." line?23:22
compilerwriterBluesKaj and cpk1 the printer is currently connected to Kubuntu.23:22
compilerwriterI need to share it with XP machines.  I had it connected to an XP machine and then shared it with my Kubuntu box but that XP machine took a crap on me and now I have it working for Kubuntu but need to share it with the wifes lappy.23:23
jjonesAgreken, if you type lsmod | grep usb-storage    wht do you get?23:23
jjonesAgreken,  sorry.. lsmod | grep usb_storage23:24
jjoneswith an underscore.. not dash23:24
HeiKuhi there, anyone can help me with some problem updating the samba packages? 403 forbidden message23:25
HeiKuright in the middle of the upgrade to gutsy23:25
BluesKajcompilerwriter, it's best to setup printer sharing from the windows machine so it can search for it on the network23:25
jjonesHi HeiKu .. I came on here for the same reason.. someone made a mistake and the files aren't accessable.. we might just have to wait until someone with permissions to change them finds out.23:25
Agrekenjjones, 5 lines of stuff23:26
cpk1compilerwriter: go to the kmenu then system settings then printers and then in the pulldown menu "print server" then share printer on local network i think23:26
jjonesaccessible.. argh..  anything listed as changed today here: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/23:26
Agrekenusb_storage            73024  023:26
Agrekenscsi_mod              147084  6 sbp2,sr_mod,sg,sd_mod,usb_storage,libata23:26
jjonesAgreken, that's good.. at least the kernel module is loaded then.23:26
Agrekenscsi_mod              147084  6 sbp2,sr_mod,sg,sd_mod,usb_storage,libata\23:27
compilerwritercpk1 now that I have told it to share with the network how do I go about finding it on the XP box?23:27
arianehi. i'm trying to emulate N64 games with mupen64 and kamefu but neither of them is working. i downloaded roms, unzipped them in a folder and kamefu doesn't even see the files.  mupen64 sees the files but does nothing with them. could someone help me work this out please ?23:28
BluesKajcpk1, has a good point ...my setup is that both kubuntubox and windows both share a router and the printer is USB connected to the windows box . Since Kubuntu easily recognizes HP printers , it's a breeze to setup even a network printer from the kubuntubox.23:30
BluesKaj!patience | ariane23:30
ubotuariane: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines23:30
jjonesAgreken,  try running udevmonitor and then plug in the memory card.23:31
Oldtokerhi all I need some help.. if possible.. to install the new beta of skype?23:32
Agrekenjjones, ok, printed a lot of stuff to the screen23:32
begerthey, anyone know what the little window is called the shows info when you hover over an application in the panel?23:32
AgrekenUDEV  [1195255920.191430] add      /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/host13/target13:0:0/13:0:0:0 (scsi)23:32
jjonesAgreken, what's the last line it printed?23:33
AgrekenUDEV  [1195255920.289791] add      /block/sdc/sdc1 (block)23:33
BluesKajcompilerwriter, controlpanel / printers/ ...on the left hand column there should be an option "network printers" ..click on it and the wizard should pop up.23:33
jjonestry sudo pmount /dev/sdc1 /media/disk23:33
compilerwriterBluesKaj now I have to enter a url or something.23:34
Agrekenok, no error message23:34
jjonesAgreken, now try ls /media/disk23:34
BluesKajdoes windows wizaerd see the network printer?23:34
jjonesanything there?23:34
Agrekenpermission denied23:35
jjonesAgreken, try sudo ls /media/disk23:35
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Agrekenjjones, that worked!23:36
jjonescool, type sudo pumount /dev/sdc123:36
xristianyesterday i installed ubuntu studio on my lap. works really nice. right now ive just edited a track with Audacity which is a very respectable audio editor. the point here is .. how the fck can i convert a wav to mp3. any idea ?23:36
Agrekendone23:36
jjonesthen do the pmount without the sudo.. then you can get at it normally.23:36
jjonesI'm not sure why it isn't mounting automatically for you.. but at least you can get at it now.23:37
Oldtokerwhat kind of libraries do I need to install to run 32 bit software on the 64 bit23:37
jjonesAgreken, make sure you do the unmount ( ie  pumount ) before removing the device so that you don't lose any information.23:37
BluesKajcompilerwriter, did you addprinter ?23:37
Agrekenjjones, cool! Thank you VERY much!23:38
jjonesAgreken,  I hope that works well enough for you now.. I need to go.23:38
swampDwellerxristian: i think ´lame x.wav x.mp3´ or some such should do it23:38
Agrekenjjones, is there a reason it doesnt show up in Dolphin?23:38
Agrekenjjones, cool, thanks a lot!!23:38
jjonesI'm not familiar with Dolphin..23:38
jjonesbut you might just need to refresh it?23:39
jjonesit's a graphical dir browser I assume? it does ring a bell..23:39
xristianok i ll try23:39
Agrekennew gui file browser in KDE23:39
Agrekendefault browser witn 7.10 install23:40
BluesKajcompilerwriter, this may help, http://www.le.ac.uk/cc/dsss/docs/print-con.shtml23:40
jjonesAgreken,   that's the bell it rang I guess. It should show up in there when you browse to /media/disk ...23:40
GEI'm trying to install kubuntu gutsy, but X isn't starting for me, can drop into a command line and try to manually start X, but it still fails w/ an error about AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable23:40
GEand I've tried just about everything I can think of, and it just is not starting23:40
jjonesAgreken,  ok, gotta move.. good luck... and don't forget to unmount befre you pull out the key if you've written to it at all.23:40
shaffycan someone tell me how to completely (purge) my OpenOffice installation?  i want to completely remove any trace of it and then reinstall it b/c i am having problems with it.23:41
Agrekenjjones, will do, thanks man23:41
GEnothing in the log files either, I've tried disabling AIGLX and Compositing, still nothing, I'm running an ATI gfx card23:41
jjonespumount /dev/sdc1 or   pumount /media/disk  will both work.   adios23:41
Sam1337For some strange reason my /var has started to get filled up by logs as large as 250mb... I deleted a couple of them but my /var is getting filled up again now.23:42
BluesKajGE, are you at the TTY prompt ?23:42
GEyes23:42
GEI have gotten kubuntu/ubuntu working on my laptop before, but I usually have to go and get the alternate install cd, and then also install the proprietary ATI drivers, and then X will start, but I don't have high-speed internet avaliable to me, so I'm trying to make the livecd work23:43
faires!mp423:44
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:44
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BluesKajGE, I suggest reconfiging xorg using the generic vesa driver for X , at least that should help load X and kubuntu:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg23:44
shaffycan someone tell me how to completely remove (purge) my OpenOffice installation?  i want to completely remove any trace of it and then reinstall it b/c i am having problems with it.23:44
faires!avi23:44
GEBluesKaj, already done that23:44
faires!avi23:44
GEBluesKaj, already wiped out the xorg, and had dpkg create a new one, still won't start23:45
BluesKajbummer GE , how about, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart23:45
mockushello, i was installing kubuntu, and got fatal error when installing grub (i`m using asus z96s)23:45
GEBluesKaj, works for a sec, then nothing23:46
GEBluesKaj, I see X start, see the screen, can move the mouse around, then crashes back to the terminal23:46
OldtokerWaltzingAlong, may I PM you?23:46
BluesKajGE , perhaps you can edit Xorg , sudo cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf23:48
GEBluesKaj, I don't think I want to cat it to edit it ;), but add what?23:49
GEbrb, dinner23:49
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BluesKajtry the ati driver23:49
shaffydo anyone have any objections to install openoffice 2.3 on a kubuntu desktop?23:56
hydrogenits already installed..23:57
hydrogenby defautl..23:57
shaffy2.3 is?23:57
Sam1337My open office takes about 5 seconds to start up is this normal?23:57
mockushem, i`m having problem installing kubuntu on laptop.. grub installer can see my hhd23:57
mockushdd*23:57
ardchoilleshaffy: 2.3 is installed on gutsy23:57
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shaffygutsy... i'm running ubuntu.. isn't that feisty?23:58
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shaffy*kubuntu23:58
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