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alesanhey, a question, do you think "pulseaudio" will be used for hardy?00:10
Toma-seems so00:11
alesanthanks00:15
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shirishhi guys, does anybody know of some good project management systems/PMS they can tell me ?03:10
bardyrshirish, i dont think any have been uploaded to hardy yet03:28
shirishbardyr: any which were in gutsy? I wanna know if ubuntu has had any good PMS tools ever03:29
bardyrshirish, i dont know i dont use them, but there should be a couple good ones03:29
bardyrshirish,  but this channel is for Hardy Development talk, general linux/ubuntu is in #ubuntu03:30
bardyr:)03:30
shirishbardyr: I'm using Hardy, I was just asking if somebody knew, but you're right, that question should be for #ubuntu03:31
bardyrshirish, im probably to anal i just got the same response thrown in my head to many times03:32
shirishbardyr: btw see if you can comment something on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3780327#post378032703:33
bardyrshirish, whats the problem?03:34
shirishbroken packages if I try to do a full-upgrade, the only issue they have held back for about a week now. It normally doesn't take that much time.03:35
Hobbseedepends.  it can take much longer03:35
Hobbseebut really, you should know how to resolve them by now, as you like continuously running dev versions.03:36
bardyr!info xmms03:36
ubotuxmms: Versatile X audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20070601-1 (gutsy), package size 2101 kB, installed size 6292 kB03:36
Hobbseeparticualrly with something like xfwm4, which doesnt have any paid devs on it anyway03:37
Hobbseethat needs a merge.03:37
shirishHobbsee: you are right, I should, but don't so any help would be appreciable.03:37
Hobbseeso yeah, will probably take a while.03:37
Hobbseeseeing as there are ~500 things to merge in universe alone, last i checked.03:37
shirishphew, /me whistles03:38
Hobbseeand why *are* you running medibuntu stuff on a hardy system?03:39
Hobbseemost of that will likely break, and you can fix it yourself.03:39
Hobbseeor, go to medibuntu for support.03:39
bardyrHobbsee, do you got any idea when we can expect a kernel update?03:40
Hobbseebardyr: before the first lot of cds.03:40
bardyrkk03:40
bardyrso any day now :)03:40
Hobbseenot really03:40
Hobbseeother stuff needs merging first03:40
Hobbseebut they're working on it03:41
bardyrfirst alpha is out 29th03:41
bardyrany day == ~10days03:41
Hobbseewow, thought it must be soonish, yeah.03:41
* Hobbsee ponders attempting to upgrade xorg again03:47
bardyrHobbsee, xorg have been working for some time now?03:51
Hobbseebardyr: not on intel cards - driver is very chuggy03:52
bardyrHobbsee, oh then get the intel 2.2.0 release :)03:52
Hobbseerequires the drm stuff in hte kernel.03:53
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Laser87Hi!07:15
Xemanth^Laser87: hi07:29
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IdleOnewhy is FF3.0 being placed in Applications > Other instead of Internet?13:22
Balaams_MiracleIdleOne: probably because FF3 is still alpha software13:24
Pici*beta, but its all the same.13:24
IdleOnemakes sense13:24
Balaams_MiracleOh wait, this is Hardy (forgot which room i was in). Haven't been playing with Hardy yet, so it's quite possible that there is a beta in the Hardy repo's. I was looking at the Gutsy repos which contains 3.0 ~ alpha 813:27
IdleOneBalaams_Miracle: your answer still applies :)13:28
Pici!info firefox-3.013:29
Balaams_Miracle:-)13:29
ubotufirefox-3.0: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla (Development Version). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0~alpha8+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1130 kB, installed size 3832 kB13:29
Pici!info firefox-3.0 hardy13:29
ubotufirefox-3.0: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla (Development Version). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0~alpha8+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 1130 kB, installed size 3832 kB13:29
Picioh well.13:29
IdleOnelightweight is sorta not exactly the truth13:29
Balaams_MiracleNot anymore :-)13:30
IdleOneI guess if you compare it to IE it is13:30
IdleOnebut even then ...13:30
Balaams_MiracleIf people want lightweight, they should use Lynx :-)13:30
IdleOne!info lynx13:31
ubotulynx: Text-mode WWW Browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.6-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1138 kB, installed size 4860 kB13:31
IdleOneyeah I would like a real lightweight GUI browser that doesnt lock up my pc13:31
IdleOnethat actualy works and is still being maintained13:32
* Balaams_Miracle uses Opera...13:32
IdleOneEpiphany seems the closest I can get. havent tried opera yet13:33
IdleOnewowndering if having 5 different browsers installed would affect performance13:34
IdleOneI dont see why it would though not like I run all 5 at same time13:34
IdleOneis Opera packaged?13:35
Balaams_MiracleIt shouldn't affect your perf, but as you say, it would if you ran them all simultaneously13:35
Balaams_MiracleIt used to be, but i prefer to use the opera repo mysepf (deb.opera.com)13:36
Balaams_Miraclemysepf = myself13:36
avatar_IdleOne: #deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu     gutsy   partner main13:37
IdleOneavatar_: I run hardy13:37
avatar_IdleOne: i think that one wil work for hardy also13:38
Balaams_MiracleTime to "upgrade" my Gutsy VM to Hardy...13:39
IdleOneI hate this .....computer13:40
IdleOneonly good thing about it is that it is consistantly a piece of crap13:41
IdleOneBalaams_Miracle: what repo do I need to use? sid?13:45
Balaams_MiracleI always use sarge, but i don't know if that's the best one for Ubuntu users13:50
IdleOneOpera is nice. Have a good day folks14:07
pvandewyngaerdecan i install   latex-xcolor  from the hardy repo ?   i need 2.11 ,  with 2.09 nothing compiles anymore14:30
Tomcat_pvandewyngaerde: If it works out for the deps, sure...14:32
pvandewyngaerdeand do you know how ??  i have 64 bit ?14:33
Tomcat_pvandewyngaerde: Download the package from packages.ubuntu.com, install it. :o15:09
Tomcat_pvandewyngaerde: If you don't know the specifics, I guess it's best if you don't try it... might mess up.15:09
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nanonymehmm, which do you think will break my system more: using a self-compiled kernel or trying out hardy? :P17:55
* nanonyme bets for hardy and proceeds with the compiling17:55
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icangoogleitping ompaul20:44
icangoogleitompaul ping20:44
icangoogleitompaul20:44
icangoogleitompaul20:50
icangoogleitdid it work now?20:50
icangoogleit^_^20:50
ompaulna20:58
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icangoogleitompaul21:00
ompaulgot that21:01
ompaulnot the signal21:01
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ouellettesrwhat repositories do I use23:00
ouellettesrhaha23:00
humboltoWhy does the Xen kernel not support CPU frequency scaling? Does not make much sense considering that some people want to use Xen for running Windows and Linux side by side on their laptops.23:06

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