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asacgnomefreak: for this issue you don't need to test a full rebuild00:00
]reed[asac: hey, I just filed LP #16299300:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 162993 in ia32-libs "ia32-libs missing 32-bit gnome libraries needed for gtk stock icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16299300:00
asacjust build sources ...like what you upload and verify that it done right00:00
gnomefreakits still building the tar.gx00:00
asacbug 16299300:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 162993 in ia32-libs "ia32-libs missing 32-bit gnome libraries needed for gtk stock icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16299300:00
]reed[what's the best way to get somebody to look at it?00:00
gnomefreaknot building diff00:00
gnomefreakdpkg-source: building lightning-sunbird in lightning-sunbird_0.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu1.tar.gz00:01
gnomefreakdpkg-source: building lightning-sunbird in lightning-sunbird_0.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu1.dsc00:01
gnomefreakwhy the fuck is it building ubuntu1.tar.gz00:01
Ubuletterename the dir00:02
gnomefreakto what?00:02
Ubulettemv lightning-sunbird_0.7+nobinonly lightning-sunbird-0.7+nobinonly00:02
gnomefreaklightning-sunbird_0.7+nobinonly00:02
asac]reed[: usually you should try to ping the last uploader and usually subscribe him to that bug00:02
Ubulettetar cvzf lightning-sunbird_0.7+nobinonly.orig.tar.gz  lightning-sunbird-0.7+nobinonly/*.tar.bz200:02
gnomefreakit should be - not _00:02
gnomefreakwhy would dir be - when tarball is _00:03
Ubulettethe name of the tarball is right, the dir in it is not00:03
asac]reed[: but given the low bug count on that package it will probably get attention on its own. so maybe wait a few days00:03
Ubulettegnomefreak, look before the nobinonly:00:03
Ubuletteix:~/bzr/tarballs$ tar ztvf lightning-sunbird_0.7.orig.tar.gz00:03
Ubulettedrwxr-xr-x fta/fta           0 2007-10-28 19:19 lightning-sunbird-0.7/00:03
Ubulette-rw-r--r-- fta/fta    37292115 2007-10-28 19:18 lightning-sunbird-0.7/lightning-sunbird-0.7-source.tar.bz200:03
Ubuletteso just reproduce with s/0.7/0.7+nobinonly/00:04
Ubulettetake extra care about "_" and "-"00:04
Ubuletteyou have to create APP_VERSION.orig.tar.gz containing APP-VERSION/something.tar.bz200:05
gnomefreakwhy would dir matter in that instance since tarball is _ figured dir should be aas well00:06
Ubulettewhere APP is lightning-sunbird and VERSION is 0.7+nobinonly00:06
asac]reed[: i think a lot of kde users will complain if you pull in all those gnome libs00:06
Ubulettegnomefreak, try it00:06
gnomefreaki am but i dont get why it matters00:06
gnomefreakbut you answere that00:06
Ubuletteit's how dpkg-sources works00:06
]reed[asac: well, we're requiring them for Firefox 3 on Linux00:07
]reed[for now, at least00:07
asac]reed[: i doubt that all those libs are needed for gtk stock icons00:07
]reed[we're open to help!00:08
]reed[help us! :)00:08
]reed[see mozilla bug 40274200:08
ubotuMozilla bug 402742 in ImageLib "nightlies on Ubuntu 7.10 x64 do not show stock icons" [Major,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40274200:08
asac]reed[: what kind of api do you use for stock icons?00:08
]reed[see comment #2900:08
]reed[in that moz bug00:09
gnomefreakUbulette: how can i run lintian and/or linda on this now?00:09
gnomefreaksave me from uploading to find out errors00:09
asacUbulette: do we see those stock icons?00:09
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Ubulettein the file list ? yes00:10
asacwithout gnome-support?00:11
UbuletteI have gnome support00:11
gnomefreakthe bule globe with or without00:11
gnomefreakasac: iirc it doesnt matter its blue globe either way00:11
Ubuletteoh, mine are orange, not yellow00:11
gnomefreakyellow?00:12
asacUbulette: yeah its probably from your theme :)00:12
asacUbulette: can you try to uninstall xul-gnome-support and see if they go away as well?00:12
asaci only have a8 build here on this system00:12
gnomefreaki see the same icons as the mozilla bug has as attachments00:12
Ubulettei'm with b2pre00:12
gnomefreakthis is on a900:12
gnomefreaka9pre00:12
asacUbulette: right ... please try :-D00:13
asacUbulette: bug was filed 06-11 ... so b2pre should be fine i guess00:13
[reed]the new Linux theme just landed last night00:13
[reed]that makes the main icons use stock icons00:13
gnomefreakmine looks like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=28756300:13
gnomefreakin help about00:14
Ubulettehold on, i'm gonna upgrade to 1.9~b2~cvs20071115t143900:17
gnomefreakasac: lintian == no errors linda == waiting on it to install00:19
gnomefreakgrrrrrrr00:19
gnomefreakif i remove debhelper from control linda complains if i add it linda complains00:20
gnomefreakwonder if its linda00:20
Ubulettegasp, without gnome support, it's broken00:20
gnomefreakbut native is gone00:20
gnomefreaknot here00:21
gnomefreakUbulette: i dont have gnome-support for firefox-3.0a9pre and i get the fuse on the globe00:21
gnomefreakassuming that is the correct icon00:21
gnomefreakusing defaul gnome icons here00:22
[reed]no, you need to look at ftp listings00:22
[reed]go to ftp://ftp.mozilla.org00:22
[reed]do you see icons?00:22
gnomefreakthe folders and files yes00:22
gnomefreakugly as hell but yes00:23
[reed]download ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/tinderbox-builds/fx-linux-tbox-trunk/firefox-3.0b2pre.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz200:23
[reed]unpack it and run it00:23
Ubulettehttp://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/Minefield-without-gnome.png00:23
[reed]Ubulette: yes, that's what people are reporting :000:23
[reed]we'd like to fix it00:24
gnomefreakok it looks right here ill let you know when download is done what b2 looks like00:24
Ubulettereadding gnome support does not change anything, it's still broken00:24
[reed]Ubulette: does that include libgnomeui ?00:25
Ubulettewhat ?00:26
gnomefreakftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/tinderbox-builds/fx-linux-tbox-trunk/firefox-3.0b2pre.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz200:26
gnomefreakshit00:26
gnomefreakhttp://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=81twl7d&s=100:26
asac[reed]: ok ... the idea is to just use gtk_icon_theme_lookup_icon and guess the name from mime-type00:26
gnomefreakthat is a9pre00:26
asacis that good enough?00:26
gnomefreakwaiting for b200:26
[reed]asac: hmm, can you comment in the bug?00:27
asacyes00:27
Ubulettehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/2016/00:28
Ubulettewell, that's with gnome-support but it looks like without00:28
Ubulettemaybe a chrome reg00:29
Ubulettedamn, it's borked00:29
Ubulettei can't stay like that00:29
asacUbulette: he?00:30
Ubulettelook at my screenshot00:30
Ubulettei'm like that now00:30
Ubulettei've downgraded to b1 rc3, it's back in shape.. aaaahh, i feel better00:34
gnomefreaktesting upstream build waiting for it to open00:35
gnomefreaki see icons00:36
gnomefreakits using ubuntu themes00:36
gnomefreaktheme00:36
Ubulettei've upgraded again but this time with gnome support, i see the icons but my bmtoolbar is missing00:36
gnomefreakpost screenshot in a moment00:37
gnomefreakUbulette: i dont have -gnome-support for 3.0 installed00:37
gnomefreakwould it be using 2.0 gnome-support?00:37
gnomefreaki wouldnt think so00:37
Ubulettehttp://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/Minefield-with-gnome.png00:37
Ubulettegnomefreak, no, firefox-3.0-gnome-support & xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support00:38
[reed]Ubulette: yeah, I think the bookmark toolbar issue is mozilla bug 40374300:38
ubotuMozilla bug 403743 in Toolbars "Bookmark toolbar items don't show up even though they are accessible in the Bookmark Toolbar Folder" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40374300:38
gnomefreaki dont have neither00:38
UbuletteError: uncaught exception: [Exception... "'[JavaScript Error: "this._result is null" {file: "chrome://browser/content/places/toolbar.xml" line: 357}]' when calling method: [nsIController::isCommandEnabled]"  nsresult: "0x80570021 (NS_ERROR_XPC_JAVASCRIPT_ERROR_WITH_DETAILS)"  location: "JS frame :: chrome://browser/content/places/controller.js :: updatePlacesCommand :: line 1644"  data: yes]00:39
Ubuletteok, it's mozilla bug 40385400:40
ubotuMozilla bug 403854 in Search "Removing searchbar or location bar breaks many things" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40385400:41
[reed]yeah, so that should be reviewed and landed for tomorrow's nightliews00:41
[reed]-w00:41
Ubulettei don't like the new icons at all00:42
Ubulettethe two arrows look weird when you hover them00:42
Ubuletteis it really supposed to look native ???00:43
[reed]the tab scrolling arrows?00:43
[reed]or what?00:43
[reed]what arrows?00:44
[reed]back/forward?00:44
Ubuletteb/f00:44
[reed]what's the proper way of doing things?00:45
[reed]you should file bugs :)00:45
Ubulettei can't take a screenshot showing that hovering thing00:47
Ubulettethe border of the arrow when hovered is complete, the one of the smaller arrow on the right (for history) has only 3 sides00:48
Ubulettethat looks weird to me00:48
[reed]can you not use "Take Screenshot" and set a delay?00:49
Ubulettethe close button of tabs disappear when hovered00:49
Ubuletteeven with delay, the hovering is not visible00:49
Ubulettei've tried twice00:50
[reed]lame00:50
Ubulettesorry00:50
[reed]so, you should file all these issues in bugzilla00:50
[reed]so we can fix them :)00:50
Ubuletteclose button doesn't seem vertically centered: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/tabs.png00:52
gnomefreakfirefox hates me00:53
[reed]Ubulette: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org :)00:53
[reed]please file00:53
Ubulettewell, i have enough bugs opened everywhere. i usually don't care much about color/theme. Here, i was just used to the previous ones00:53
[reed]well, people really want it native00:54
[reed]so, that's what we're doing00:54
[reed]with new Tango icons making up stuff that gtk stock icons doesn't have00:54
[reed]http://tango.freedesktop.org/Firefox00:54
Ubuletteno offense intended. i know it's important for end users. i'm just not representative of the mass ;)00:55
gnomefreakhttp://i9.tinypic.com/7xui9w5.png00:55
gnomefreakthat is with b2 upstream00:55
gnomefreakubuntu doesnt use tango by default00:55
gnomefreakatleast not yet00:56
Ubulettegnomefreak, yep, i see the same now. i fixed my toolbar by adding a search bar00:56
gnomefreaktoolbar wont fix your icons though00:56
gnomefreakdefault ubuntu themes firefox 3.0* shows icons fine00:57
gnomefreakflash is working on pissing me off something awfulol00:57
Ubulettehttp://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/FF3-Unresponsive-script.png00:58
Ubulettethis is weird too00:58
gnomefreakits not 3.0 thats stuck its 2.0 here00:58
gnomefreakcant do shit00:58
gnomefreaktinypic is freezing me up00:58
gnomefreakcant open term to kill ff00:58
Ubulettelol00:58
[reed]Ubulette: yeah, we've had some people complaining that the unresponsive script thing comes up at odd times00:59
Ubulettei'm talking about the icons01:00
Ubulettestop is green and continue red ?01:00
Ubulettecounter intuitive01:00
[reed]Ubulette: oh, lol01:02
[reed]I didn't notice that01:02
gnomefreakok asac sunbird is fixed firefox broken sb fixed :(01:03
Ubuletteasac, I've patched xulrunner and seamonkey to ifdef that part01:45
Ubulettei've created mozilla bug 40399401:54
ubotuMozilla bug 403994 in Build Config "Don't install nss headers when sysytem-nss is used" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40399401:54
Ubuletteoops, sysytem01:55
Ubulettemozilla bug 40399401:55
ubotuMozilla bug 403994 in Build Config "Don't install nss headers when system-nss is used" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40399401:55
Ubulettebetter01:56
[reed]oh02:28
[reed]that's you02:28
[reed]:p02:28
Ubulette?02:29
[reed]Ubulette: so, you need to request review02:29
Hobbseeerm...how do i run firefox-3.0?  i'm getting an error02:29
HobbseeCould not find compatible GRE between version 1.9a8 and 1.9a8.02:29
Hobbsee(hardy)02:29
Ubuletteyou probably have a bad xul install02:30
Hobbseehow would i go about fixing that?02:30
Ubulettewhich version of xulrunner-1.9 do you have ?02:31
Ubulette(dpkg -l xulrunner-1.9)02:31
HobbseeSetting up xulrunner-1.9 (1.9~b1~rc3+nobinonly-0ubuntu1) ...02:31
Ubuletteoh02:31
Hobbseenot up to date?02:31
Ubuletteit's just that firefox-3.0 b1 rc3 has not been built02:32
Ubuletteit's still stuck in the merge flood02:32
Hobbsee  Installed: 3.0~alpha8+nobinonly-0ubuntu102:32
Ubuletteyep02:32
Hobbseeoh, crumbs you're right02:32
Ubulettethat's why02:32
Hobbseeok, will try to shove.  i want buildd admin powers dammit.02:32
Ubulettehttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+builds?build_text=firefox-3.0&build_state=all02:32
Hobbseedamn edge.  stop timing out on me!02:33
Ubulette[reed], i never know which knob to select so i usually wait forever :p02:34
Hobbseehehe02:34
* Hobbsee is too familiar with edge :(02:34
Ubulettebut as i merge my patches directly here, it doesn't matter much02:34
UbuletteHobbsee ??02:34
Hobbseeit often times out on me.02:35
[reed]Ubulette: it matters to us02:35
HobbseeUbulette: right, problem solved.02:35
HobbseeUbulette: btw, you had a dpkg patch ages ago.  iwj told me some stuff about it, but i've no idea what it was - about why some parts werent wise.02:36
Hobbseeyou may want to ask him02:36
UbuletteHobbsee, i have tons of patches everywhere, most of them are beeing ignored02:36
Hobbseeare the sponsorship teams subscribed to them?02:37
Ubulettei have no idea02:37
Hobbseeif not, that's why.02:37
Ubuletteas i run my patches anyway02:37
Ubulettei have my own builder02:37
Hobbsee(ubuntu-universe-sponsors, ubuntu-main-sponsors, as the package requires)02:37
Hobbseehardly helpful for anyone else, though.02:38
Ubulettewell, i file bugs and post patches, that should be enough. if maintainers don't care to even have a look, why should i ?02:39
Ubuletteall my patches are public02:39
Hobbseeubuntu doesnt have maintainers.  i thought you'd been around enough to know this.02:39
Hobbseethat's *why* we have a sponship queue02:39
Ubulettei'm running linux since 1991 so I know02:40
Hobbseeat last count, i think everyone in ~ubuntu-dev (and not all are active), have around 800 packages each.02:40
Ubuletteand debian since 199602:40
Hobbseeoddly enough, they probably don't see all of them.02:40
Hobbseei'm surprised you don't file to debian, as they do actually have maintainers.02:40
Ubulettei'm no longer interested by debian.02:41
Ubulettei'm still running it on a dozen servers but no more on desktops02:42
* Hobbsee wonders just how many patches there are which arent on the sponsorship queue.02:42
Ubuletteno idea02:43
Hobbsee1425, apparently.02:43
Hobbseemodulo dupes, and not-real-patches.02:43
Ubulettegood, ff3 is building now. did you do something or is it just happening now ?02:44
Hobbseeyes, i poked the relevant people02:44
Hobbseeit wasn't going to happen for ages, otherwise.02:45
Ubuletteexcellent02:45
Ubulettethx02:45
Hobbseeno problem.  things work well, when done in effective ways02:46
Ubulettefortunately, ff3 is fast to build now02:50
Ubulette3 or 4 minutes instead of 1 hour02:50
Hobbseewow, 8 mins.02:51
Ubulettethat's mostly the chroot upgrade + builddeps install02:51
UbuletteI build locally in 1 minute02:51
Hobbseeyup02:51
* Hobbsee ponders. wait for the binaries to become available, or nuke the debs.02:52
[reed]you build a clobber build in 1 minute?02:53
[reed]oh, huh02:55
Ubuletteff with libxul02:55
Ubulettexul still takes 1h though ;)02:55
[reed]k, thought so :p02:56
Ubuletteok, pushing seamonkey2 to my ppa, and going to bed, it's 4am here02:58
[reed]   [ Alexander Sack ]03:00
[reed]   * Use granparadiso branding for alpha and beta builds and official branding03:00
[reed]     for final builds:03:00
[reed]     - update debian/rules03:00
[reed]asac: er?03:00
[reed]why Gran Paradiso branding on beta?03:00
[reed]official builds will be official branding03:01
[reed]for betas03:01
Ubulettethat's what I've said too03:01
Ubulettebut it's b1 rc3, so asac prefered to revert my change03:01
[reed]well, it's just going to make you all look odd!03:02
[reed]:p03:02
Ubuletteb1 final will automatically have the official branding03:02
[reed]ah03:02
[reed]and how will rc3 be different from final?03:02
Ubulettewe don't know. we'll see when the tarball will be available03:03
Ubulettehere, I just fetched the rc3 tag from cvs03:03
Ubuletteproblem is, there's no official tarballs for xulrunner03:04
Hobbseeooh, shiny :)03:06
Ubulettedoes it work ?03:06
Hobbseeyeah03:08
Hobbseethemes and such arent updated, though03:08
Ubulettemost are just not compatible so they are there but disabled03:08
Hobbseei wonder if it can be fooled with the nightly tester tools, as 2.x was03:09
Ubuletteyou can fool that with a key03:09
Hobbseehaha, nice.03:10
Hobbseenew about:config window warning.03:10
HobbseeUbulette: presumably extensions.lastAppVersion?03:11
Hobbseenope, that didn't work03:12
Hobbseewhich key do i want?03:12
Ubulettei don't remember and the about:config is broken in minefield. cpu over the roof03:19
Hobbseehm.03:19
* Hobbsee assumes that the current minefield is quite far aawy from the beta, then.03:19
[reed]?03:19
[reed]not reall03:19
[reed]really03:19
[reed]Ubulette: about:config wfm03:19
[reed]Minefield doesn't have many problems03:20
Ubuletteit's the 1st time is doesn't work03:20
Hobbseewoot!  extensions!03:20
Hobbseeswitftabs, how i love thee!  :D03:20
Ubulette[reed], cpu rockets for a while, then the popup asks me if I want to continue or kill the script03:21
[reed]strange03:21
[reed]any extensions?03:21
Ubulettenot much, mostly tabmix+ and adblock+03:22
Hobbseeerk, tabmix+03:22
[reed]adblockplus is compatible with Minefield03:23
* Hobbsee had that crashing even on 2.003:23
[reed]is tabmix+ ?03:23
Ubulettethe dev one is in sync with trunk usually03:23
Hobbseeuh oh, apparently using history tab complete is a bad idea.03:32
Ubulettetabs look weird in trunk... or at least, different. maybe it's tabmix+ fault. i'm daily building firefox so i'll see if it improves :)03:32
Ubulettebed time for me. 'night guys03:33
PoofDaddyIs this a chan to ask questions on Thunderbird?04:52
tonyyarussoPoofDaddy: it's mostly development-related, actually, but given that nobody's having real discussions right now, I guess you could try.  (#ubuntu-offtopic, oddly enough, is often successful for TB stuff too)05:02
PoofDaddyI'll give it try.05:03
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bluekujaUbulette, are you around?11:31
UbuletteHI11:50
Ubulettebluekuja, ping11:50
bluekujaUbulette, heya11:51
bluekujacan you please test something for me?11:51
bluekujait's a 5 min work11:51
bluekujaso I can finally move to sm11:51
Ubulettetell me11:53
bluekujadownload http://incoming.ibluepaper.com/diff-ext_0.2.3-2_i386.deb11:53
bluekujathen11:53
bluekujainstall it11:53
bluekujathen do11:53
bluekujakillall nautilus11:53
bluekujaand then right click on a folder/file11:53
bluekujadoes it crash or works fine?11:53
bluekuja:)11:53
Ubulettedoes is matter if i run nautilus HEAD ?11:54
bluekujaI guess no11:54
Ubulettei'm far ahead of hardy for most of gnome11:54
Ubuletteok, give me 5 min, i was on something.11:54
bluekujaok11:55
Ubulettedone12:03
Ubuletteno crash12:03
Ubulettebut it does nothing.12:03
Ubulettei right click on a file, select "Compare later"12:04
Ubuletteright click another file, select "Compare to my1stfile..."12:04
Ubulettenothing happens12:05
Ubulettebluekuja, ^^12:05
bluekujayes, it's ok12:05
bluekuja:)12:05
bluekujabut no crashes?12:05
bluekujaright?12:05
bluekujayou need to setup everything12:07
bluekujato have it working12:07
Ubulette? it's not automatic ?12:08
bluekujanope12:10
bluekujayou have to select a file comparison tool12:10
bluekujafrom the configuration program12:11
Ubulettehow am i supposed to know ?12:11
bluekujaby reading docs12:11
bluekuja^^12:11
Ubuletteyou should provide a default conf that does something12:12
Ubulettehere, it's just confusing12:12
bluekujaI gonna add a README then12:12
Ubulettedo you know many users who read docs ? I don't12:12
bluekujathey should12:12
Ubulettelol12:12
bluekujalol12:12
Ubulettei started the setup tool (difficult to find), clicked on about, I can't close the about dialog12:13
bluekujait's a known bug12:13
bluekujawill be fixed12:13
bluekuja:)12:13
Ubulettesetting /usr/bin/diff didn't work. should it be a gui ?12:16
bluekujayes12:16
Ubuletteso i'm doomed12:16
bluekujalol12:16
bluekujait have to be a gui12:17
bluekujayou can use meld12:17
bluekujait works fine12:17
bluekujabrb -- lunch12:17
bluekujabak12:27
bluekuja*back12:27
bluekujaUbulette, anyway the docs are inside12:27
bluekujaand usually an user is supposed to read them12:27
bluekujabefore using an application12:27
bluekujaif not why ppl include them?12:27
bluekuja;)12:28
Ubuletteas you want, i just think that it should work by default12:29
bluekujaactually I cannot say an user what's the best diff comparison tool to use12:29
bluekujaand plus it should depends on tons of packages12:30
bluekujaso avoid ppl to search them12:30
bluekujabut it's just a 2 steps work12:31
bluekuja1) configure12:31
bluekuja2) compare12:31
bluekujanot really hard12:31
Ubulettenot much, it's a an for nautilus which is already heavy on deps. so just dep on meld | diff-gui, let meld have a diversion to diff-gui and just pre configure diff-gui as default diff for your extension. any other differ could implement the same diversion12:32
Ubulettes/a an/an ext/12:33
bluekujathat's true as well12:33
bluekujaI should ack upstream files12:33
bluekujato get a default configuration12:33
bluekujaI'll talk with the main developer12:33
bluekujato see what he thinks about that12:33
Ubuletteit's a packaging decision. upstream should not be concerned/impacted much12:34
bluekujayes, but having a default configuration12:34
bluekujashould concern modifing upstream files12:34
Ubulettewe do that for everything12:34
bluekujayep12:34
bluekujaUbulette, do you have a debian unstable machine as well?12:35
Ubulettenot anymore12:35
Ubulettejust servers12:35
bluekujaah damn12:36
Ubulettemy own desktops were debian unstable for 10 years12:36
bluekujareally?12:36
Ubuletteyes12:36
UbuletteI never had to reinstall the system. just regular upgrades12:38
bluekujaamazing12:38
bluekuja:)12:38
Ubulettesometimes dirty ones but i always managed12:38
Ubulettesame for ubuntu. I've jumped on the dev ones the day they opened12:40
Ubuletteanyway, no crash with your stuff12:41
bluekujaperfect12:41
bluekujanow I need an unstable test12:41
bluekujaand It can be uploaded12:41
Ubulettedamn, another lang pack flood in the ppa12:45
bluekujaaww12:45
Ubulette~500 debs12:48
bluekuja0_012:48
Ubulettenot debs but packages12:48
Ubulette[reed], i've tried to ask for review for my nss patch from yesterday. not sure i did it right12:59
Ubulettedamn, seamonkey2 i386 is stuck in the flood in ppa.13:00
Ubuletterhelmer, do you have any idea if there's an ETA for prism 0.9 ?13:02
Ubuletterhelmer, I want to have a release for ubuntu hardy as cvs is not welcome13:03
Ubuletteasac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61464714:31
Ubulettebluekuja, any progress with sm1 ?14:38
bluekujaUbulette, for this evening14:39
bluekujayes14:39
Ubuletteok14:39
asacUbulette: ffox 3 is built14:43
asacyou probably already noticed ;)14:43
Ubulettei know14:43
UbuletteHobbsee wanted it yesterday so he pulled the right string14:44
asacHobbsee == she14:44
asacshe is buildd admin as well from what i know14:45
Ubuletteshe ? really ? excellent14:45
asacyeah14:45
asacsarah hobbs14:45
asacUbulette: i think we should make libxul*pc Require: mozilla-nss and then create a link mozilla-nss.pc => nss.pc in case we use system-nss/nspr14:56
asacotherwise the headers are missing in epiphy14:57
Ubuletteso you want to hack the pc files using debian/rules ?14:58
asacnot sure ... i think in that way we can contribute it upstream14:58
asacor patch the .pc.in files14:58
asacincluding xul headers without nspr usually means build failure ... so having it without that Requires is just good luck that in some cases the nspr/nss headers are shipped in the same directory14:59
Ubulettethat kind of things is distro specific, i don't see how upstream could accept that15:00
asacUbulette: its not really upstream specific... its just out of luck that they ship the headers in the same directory15:06
Ubulettemaybe that could be changed15:07
asacits not the default for them, but it semantically makes sense ... they ship mozilla-nss.pc ... and -nspr.pc so why not express the dependency properly15:07
Ubulettethey ship mozilla-nss.pc ? you sure ?15:08
asacwell .. its not invented by us ... we just run make install and have it, right?15:08
Ubulettehmm, no anymore15:21
Ubulettehttp://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsview2.cgi?diff_mode=context&whitespace_mode=show&file=Makefile.in&branch=&root=/cvsroot&subdir=/mozilla/build/unix&command=DIFF_FRAMESET&rev1=1.29&rev2=1.3015:21
Ubuletteasac, this is mozilla bug 38967315:21
ubotuMozilla bug 389673 in Build Config "Fix "make install" to copy from dist/ rather than recursive makefile traversal" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38967315:21
Ubulettes/no/not/15:22
Ubulette(i really need a new keyboard and a new mouse)15:22
Ubuletteand new hands too to come with those ;)15:22
asachehe15:23
asacUbulette: when was that checkin?15:24
asacUbulette: i mean i still have that .pc files installed from what i know15:24
Ubulette2007-08-03 07:4615:24
asaci think that patch is just to remove the manual make install thing15:24
Ubulettei still see xulrunner-1.9-1.9~b2~cvs20071115t1159+nobinonly/mozilla/xulrunner/installer/mozilla-nss.pc.in but it's no longer installed/used15:25
Ubulettewell, maybe it is, but not with system nss15:25
asacyes ... but for that case its like i proposed :)15:26
asaccreate link to real system one ... and always Requires: mozilla-nss15:26
asac$ dpkg -L xulrunner-1.9-dev | grep mozilla-nss15:28
asac/usr/lib/pkgconfig/mozilla-nss-1.9.pc15:28
asacthats for the a8 in gutsy15:28
asacmaybe it would be better to produce the proper path in system-nss/nspr case though15:29
asace.g. ship a good mozilla-nss in all cases15:30
Ubulettedo we ever want to be able to install two sdk at once ?15:32
asaci doubt that15:33
asacwhy?15:33
asacthe .pc files would conflict anyway15:33
Ubulettethat's why i ask15:33
Ubuletteupstream allows to install as many sdk as you want15:34
asacyeah ... i see the .pc files the single point of stableness developers need to figure out build paths et al15:34
asachow does upstream do that? i mean its not us that install those .pc files in /usr/lib/pkgconfig/ .. its the upstream behaviour15:34
Ubulettewe're close to allow one xulrunner per branch, but only one sdk15:35
asacyes .. but i am sure thats the same for upstream ... one sdk per major bracnh15:35
asace.g. 1.8 sdk + 1.9 sdk is good15:35
asacand since they don't even have the version in pc files its just one sdk at once for them15:35
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Ubulettegood. seamonkey2 has finally been built in my ppa.17:18
asacgreat :)17:19
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Ubuletteasac, what's your status with python/xul1.9 ? jamino bloged about it17:35
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gnomefreaki was just thinking why do we keep xpcom, afaik its cross-platform components and we dont build cross platform unless it is used for 32 64 ppc since we dont build for windows17:37
gnomefreakasac: also you can grab sunbird from http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=663 and push its all good and been tested here17:39
gnomefreakoh and for some damn reason firefox isnt remembering the settings for the pop up warnings about encryped pages ect.17:40
gnomefreakyay 60 updates17:41
gnomefreakmake that 7317:43
Ubulette_sm2hmm.. chatzilla in seamonkey2 has an empty user list17:43
gnomefreaksuprise you?17:44
Ubulette_sm2and the issue with localization of wallet is still there17:44
gnomefreakwallet is still giving issues?17:44
Ubulette_sm2it's obsolete, supposed to be removed17:45
Ubulette_sm2firefox did it a while ago17:45
gnomefreakalready?17:45
gnomefreakfirefox had wallet?17:45
Ubulette_sm2up to ff2, yes17:45
* gnomefreak is now confused17:45
gnomefreakwhat does it use now?17:46
* gnomefreak thinking wallet is what saved info/passwords ect..17:46
Ubulette_sm2indeed17:47
gnomefreakwhat took its place?17:47
gnomefreaki know 3.0 offers to save passwords in a dialog at top of page but not sure what its called17:47
Ubulette_sm2satchel17:48
gnomefreakhmmm17:48
Ubulette_sm2mozilla bug 39002517:49
ubotuMozilla bug 390025 in XP Apps "Move to LoginManager and remove wallet from SeaMonkey" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39002517:49
Ubulette_sm2here it is17:49
Ubulette_sm2not very active :(17:50
gnomefreakcan we remove it atleast until upstream does? or we would have to remove it and provide something in place17:50
Ubulette_sm2there's an issue with localization of wallet so it's too bad it's not moving17:50
gnomefreakthis isnt good17:53
gnomefreakUbulette: did you see bug 162723 (i ask since i know you worked ass off on xulrunner-1.9)18:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 162723 in xulrunner-1.9 "xulrunner-1.9 build leaves orphaned find processes, hangs buildds" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16272318:00
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Ubulettei meant to say; hmm no18:01
Ubuletteok, i'll handle that18:05
Ubulettei'm trying to do some ajax in xul, that's giving me headaches18:09
* gnomefreak will be back later18:19
Ubulette_http://www.cnet.com/surveillance-state/8301-13739_1-9813407-46.html18:27
Ubulette_http://shaver.off.net/diary/2007/11/16/correction-mozilla-stopbadware-and-google/18:28
Ubulette_http://ascher.ca/blog/2007/11/16/open-source-peer-to-peer-transportation-systems/18:38
Ubulette_that's what I'm using to commute everyday18:38
asacUbulette_: bug 16272318:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 162723 in xulrunner-1.9 "xulrunner-1.9 build leaves orphaned find processes, hangs buildds" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16272318:47
asac??18:47
Ubulette_maybe the redirection you've added18:49
Ubulette_never been an issue for my bot18:49
Ubulette_it monitors orphaned processes too18:49
asacUbulette_: well ... i did nothing like that before upload18:49
Ubulette_i don't know it's new18:50
Ubulette_i don't think it's new18:50
Ubulette_(my hands are typing things that my brain never ordered)18:50
asachehe18:51
Ubulette_btw, i've trying to ping elmo to discuss that bug, no answer so far18:52
asacUbulette_: he has stated that its clear to him :)18:53
Ubulette_tried18:53
asacgood luck in pinging elmo18:53
Ubulette_god, what's happening to me ?18:53
Ubulette_why ?18:53
asacUbulette_: nevermind ... he often had high latency in the past:)18:54
asacwhy the hell would they orphan? ... i had something like that yesterday on my system before I had to reboot ... e.g. lots of those finds dangling around18:55
asaci thought i had killed the make with -KILL18:55
asacUbulette_: i get18:57
asactest -d mozilla/_tests && rm -rf mozilla/_tests ; \ test -d mozilla/staticlib && rm -rf mozilla/staticlib ; \ find mozilla -type f -name \*.pyc -exec rm {} \; &> /dev/null; \ find mozilla -type l -exec rm {} \; &> /dev/null18:57
asacrm -f debian/xulrunner-1.9.postinst debian/xulrunner-1.9.prerm18:57
asacwhen running just debian/rules clean18:57
asacasac@ubun:/tmp/xulrunner-1.9-1.9~a8$ semop(1): encountered an error: Invalid argument18:57
asacsemop(2): encountered an error: Invalid argument18:57
Ubulette_my bot:18:58
Ubulette_rm -f debian/stamp-autotools-files18:58
Ubulette_test -d mozilla/_tests && rm -rf mozilla/_tests ; \18:58
Ubulette_test -d mozilla/staticlib && rm -rf mozilla/staticlib ; \18:58
Ubulette_find mozilla -type f -name \*.pyc -exec rm {} \; &> /dev/null; \18:58
Ubulette_find mozilla -type l -exec rm {} \; &> /dev/null18:58
Ubulette_ dpkg-source -b xulrunner-1.9-1.9~b2~cvs20071116t0151+bbot18:58
Ubulette_semop(1): encountered an error: Invalid argument18:58
Ubulette_semop(1): encountered an error: Invalid argument18:58
Ubulette_dpkg-source: building xulrunner-1.9 using existing xulrunner-1.9_1.9~b2~cvs20071116t0151+bbot.orig.tar.gz18:58
asacyeah ... what are those semop things?18:58
asacmaybe > is used for seomthing in make?18:58
Ubulette_let me check when it started19:00
asacok apparently its really &>19:01
Ubulette_cvs20070925t025119:02
asacwe need to use > /dev/null 2>&119:02
asacthat works here without semop19:02
Ubulette_cvs20070924t0733 was ok19:02
Ubulette_yep, i told you that. in pure sh, &> is not supported19:02
asac        find $(DEB_SRCDIR) -type f -name \*.pyc -exec rm {} \; > /dev/null 2>&1 ;\19:02
asac        find $(DEB_SRCDIR) -type l -exec rm {} \; > /dev/null 2>&119:03
asack19:03
asacbut is this the problem?19:03
asacmost likely i guess19:03
Ubulette_that's at best a bashism, for me it's in fact csh syntax19:03
Ubulette_well, no csh/tcsh use >& and |&19:04
asacwell in dash it works19:04
asacecho hallo &> /dev/null19:04
asacdoesn't give me semop19:04
Ubulette_try that when invoked as /bin/sh19:04
Ubulette_and nohup19:05
asacok its really backgrounded19:05
asacok ... wanna add that fix?19:05
Ubulette_i can do it19:05
asaclike above?19:05
asacthanks19:05
Ubulette_ok19:05
asacset it to fix committed and add the .dev branch to the bug then.19:06
Ubulette_btw, i've created a xul.head branch yesterday19:06
Ubulette_i need that to fix, hmm, xul head :)19:06
Ubulette_needed19:06
Ubulette_i'm merge in dev later19:06
Ubulette_i'll19:07
Ubulette_gasp19:07
asacafter b1 i guess19:07
Ubulette_yes19:07
asacwe could have greated a b1 branch and keep main dev on .dev19:07
asacs/gr/cr/19:07
Ubulette_that's what I wanted to do with the non dev branch but you complained19:09
Ubulette_asac, pushed to xul.dev : http://paste.ubuntu.com/2034/19:14
Ubulette_if you want to push, feel free19:15
Ubulette_well, i've committed assuming you'll sponsor it immediately19:16
Ubulette_asac, ok, elmo seems happy19:24
Ubulette_asac, about prism, any objection to push a cvs release ? we'll get a real release before hardy is out for sure. problems with this one (0.7) are 1/ real source tarball is not available and 2/ it has been released for win only, then weeks later for linux/mac.. so it's not the same sources.19:32
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asaci have to hand this computer over to my gf for a few19:47
rhelmerUbulette: i'll find out about 0.919:57
Ubuletterhelmer, cool, thx19:57
rhelmerUbulette: there's a #prism channel on irc, i'll see if anyone has plans yet19:57
rhelmeron irc.mozilla.org that is19:58
Ubuletteasac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/2035/20:03
Ubulettexul failed20:03
Ubuletteseems fixed20:07
Ubulettehmm, nope20:08
asacUbulette: unless something else pops up i would rather wait till beta is out21:25
asacUbulette: about prism: yeah ... we can get this up21:25
asacUbulette: maybe try to get the package sponsored the ubuntu way though ... of course, only if you are interested to become a motu at some point21:26
asacso you have me + bluekuja + whoever that can vouch for you before the council21:27
Ubuletteif it means doing more politics than packaging, i'm not sure.21:27
asacUbulette: he?21:27
asacUbulette: no its just the easiest way to get people to vouch for you ... its not about policits, just multiple persons that can confirm your technical supremacy21:28
asacso did xul fail now?21:29
asacor did this resolve on its own?21:29
Ubulettei'm discussing with the owner of the patch21:31
gnomefreakgzip: stdin: not in gzip format21:39
gnomefreakdpkg-source: failure: gzip gave error exit status 121:39
gnomefreakbzr: ERROR: The build failed.21:39
gnomefreakthat has got to suck21:39
gnomefreakah i found it21:41
Ubulettemotu seems to just be about doing merges or/and learning about how to do debs21:49
Ubulettei think i already know how to do both21:49
gnomefreakasac: sunbird is done iceape is in the works for gutsy21:53
Ubulettei don't see anything related to what i'm doing in the motu/todo list21:55
gnomefreakUbulette: sort of yes that is about it but becoming motu give you access to upload to universe/multiverse21:55
asacUbulette: you do new packages :)22:00
asacUbulette: thats revu22:00
asacthen you maintain them22:00
asacbut indeed ... maybe you should rather become a debian NM :)22:01
Ubuletteno, thanks. i have enough already.22:03
gnomefreakdpkg-source sucks big time :(22:08
gnomefreakit cant overwrite folders nor can it name it something else22:09
gnomefreakseems i fixed it22:10
gnomefreakyep i fixed it, ill be back later to check on it, building bins before pushing22:12
Ubulettexulrunner 1.8.1.4-2ubuntu5 1.8.1.9-1 1.8.1.4-222:24
Ubulettethat one i can merge :)22:24
asacUbulette: yeah ... go ahead22:24
asacread merge-o-matic instructions ... and just do it :)22:25
Ubulettemaybe not, i'll not be able to resist cleaning it22:25
asacthen ask on motu for someone to sponsor :)22:25
asacUbulette: one virtue is to stick to things that suck :)22:25
asacUbulette: but we should really do it .. i already see motus that have no idea wiping the alternative change we made22:25
asacor even worse things like resurrecting the old python patch ... or whatever :)22:26
asacUbulette: who is listed as mergeee?22:26
asacis it me?22:26
Ubuletteyou22:26
asacok if you want go ahead :)22:26
asacusually one should ping the last uploader because otherwise they will complain ... like \sh did for seamonkey ;)22:27
asacaeh kaze22:27
asacUbulette: if there are things you want to clean up ... post a bug to mike :)22:28
Ubulette-  * debian/patches/99configure.dpatch: Updated and added nsprpub/configure.in22:38
Ubulette+  * debian/patches/99_configure.dpatch: Updated and added nsprpub/configure.in22:38
Ubuletteeverywhere22:38
Ubulettethat's considered cosmetic22:38
UbuletteI guess we have to accept that22:39
asacout getting cigarrettes22:40
Ubulettewe build-depend on ecj, not debian23:04
asacUbulette: hmm ... maybewe build java xpcom?23:25
Ubuletteam i only supposed to look at the conflicts ?23:26
Ubulettebasically, control and 99_configure23:26
Ubulettei solved that23:26
Ubuletteand i've dropped a patch23:26
Ubulette  - drop debian/patches/68_python25_api_breakage.dpatch adopted by Debian as23:27
Ubulette    debian/patches/35_python_2.5.dpatch23:27
Ubulette  - update 00list23:27
Ubulette  - update debian/patches/99_configure.dpatch23:27
Ubuletteeverything else has been done by the script23:27
Ubulettewell, that's no good. that f*g script reverted our stuff23:29
Ubulettehmm maybe not23:31
Ubuletteasac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/2041/23:48
Ubuletteoh, and maintainer23:48
UbuletteMaintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>, why not mt ?23:49
asacwell its not really something we want to be responsible for ... do we?23:51
Ubuletteno23:52
asackeeing MOTU means that motus will take a look at bugs and all :)23:52
asacotherwise it will end up on our plate ;)23:52
Ubulettei'm done, i'll build it completely23:54

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