/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/11/16/#ubuntu-ops.txt

JanCPriceChild: at least Ubuntu adds  » alias rm='rm -i --preserve-root' «  to .bashrc by default now, so the classic version for that "joke" would hopefully cause no harm to newbies...01:06
gnomefreakrm -rf doesnt obey that alias iirc01:08
gnomefreakand to remove root dir you need -rf and sudo01:08
PriceChildJanC, people were caught out01:08
JanCit only works for "/", so if they say to do that on /home that guard wouldn't work indeed01:11
* Hobbsee didn't know about -i --preserve-root01:11
JanC-i = interactive01:12
JanC--preserve-root forbids rm -rf on "/"01:12
JanCit's invented because of the common / path/to/ error I guess01:13
Hobbseeahhh01:14
Hobbseeyeah01:14
mneptokwerd01:16
PriceChildwaddup mneptok 01:16
Hobbseeoh noes, i'ts mneptok!01:17
mneptoksi /me!!one!!01:21
mneptokback from All Hands nad a family visit01:21
mneptokand ready to stab customers in the "it works in Windows!" gland01:22
Hobbseehaha01:24
Hobbseemneptok: did you like all hands?01:24
mneptokHobbsee: of course! i got to scare the crap outta a whole buncha fresh meat!01:25
mneptokand now i'm back and loving our new HDTV and PS3. soon Ubuntu will reign supreme on the entertainment center.01:26
Hobbseehehe01:26
mneptokthey pass the woowoo test. i'm safe.01:27
Hobbseebefore she kills you, anyway.01:28
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jribLjL: the bots are yours?01:36
LjLjrib: yes, ##ljl01:37
mneptokI'm gonna give her a message, here's what I'm gonna say: "It's all over." She might get out a nightstick01:59
mneptokand hurt me a real, real bad. By the roadside in a ditch. It's got me under pressure.01:59
LjLi have BADKITTY on highlight, and indeed he looks like a troll... was giving "real but useless" answers and now, out of the blue, "what's the best media player?"02:55
LjL[03:55:57] <_ebirtaid> ljl whats with the floddbots02:56
LjL[03:56:07] [Whois] _ebirtaid is i=ebirtaid@this.is.a.d0ma1n.name (diat)02:56
LjLweird that someone with such a hostname would ask that, especially with an unregistered nickname02:56
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bigfuzzyjesuswhen my ban be lifted03:42
bigfuzzyjesuswill03:42
mneptokbigfuzzyjesus: judging by the fact that it's hardly your first offense, i'd guess it would be quite some time.03:45
bigfuzzyjesusmneptok, well that is what i have heard, and i keep waiting03:46
bigfuzzyjesusthen i ask03:46
bigfuzzyjesusoccasionally to see what happens03:46
mneptokbigfuzzyjesus: interesting strategy03:46
bigfuzzyjesusmneptok, yep03:47
Hobbseedoesnt' work, though03:47
bigfuzzyjesusnot very successful either :-|03:47
bigfuzzyjesusexactly03:47
bigfuzzyjesushttp://seifnet.no-ip.org:8080/screensecks.jpg03:48
bigfuzzyjesusshoot03:48
bigfuzzyjesuswrong channel03:48
bigfuzzyjesussorry03:48
mneptokhttp://seifnet.no-ip.org:8080/del/numbers.txt03:51
* mneptok sighs03:51
mneptoksomeday my generation will retire, and the entire Internet will become filk, World Of Warcraft ogre sex, and "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE."03:51
Hobbseegoing to call them?03:51
elkbuntumneptok, i dare you to call some of those numbers :Þ04:03
mneptokand scream "MMMMM88&&&&&& 'MMM88&&&," into the phone?04:04
elkbuntumneptok, that interspersed with manic mutterings about a big fuzzy jesus04:05
tonyyarussohow does one scream an &?04:05
elkbuntutonyyarusso, AMPERSAND AMPERSAND AMPERSAND04:05
tonyyarussosounds like a lot of work04:06
elkbuntuit'd be worth it04:06
mneptoki picture it more as "MATE MATE MATE AND AND AND MATE MATE AND AND AND AND MATE MATE MATE"04:11
mneptokyou know, the internal monologue of every 18 year old04:12
Tm_Taww04:30
Myrttigroo04:58
Myrttigmorron04:58
Tm_T!touchpad is <alias> synaptics05:15
ubotuI'll remember that, Tm_T05:15
MyrttiSeveas: thank you05:20
JanCeh, many touchpads aren't synaptics  ;)05:23
Tm_TJanC: I know but as long as there's no other factoid made for it, it's better than nothing05:24
JanCactually, I have never seen one from synaptics05:25
JanCwhich is 0/3 touchpads used  ;)05:25
Seek_Therapycan i set up a proxy for irc konversation?07:38
Myrttisay, what?07:38
Seek_TherapyI'm new...sorry07:39
Tm_TSeek_Therapy: topic07:39
Myrttiproxy? konversation?07:39
Seek_Therapyis this illegal?07:40
naliothSeek_Therapy: this is not a support channel   :)07:40
Seek_Therapyi know...but you guys would know this for sure07:40
Tm_Tno, that doesn't mean we will give support here07:41
Myrtti/me sometimes hates the kde developers for their naming schemes07:41
Tm_TMyrtti: but it's Kool!07:41
Myrtti*hrmph*07:41
Tm_TSeek_Therapy: feel free to leave, and join some support channel ;)07:42
Seek_TherapyI hate that its so hard to learn programming....I have truely hand it to you guys...good job07:43
Myrttihrmmm?07:43
MyrttiI'm confused07:43
Seek_TherapyI'm being serious07:43
naliothSeek_Therapy: join #konversation (it should be more helpful for you)07:43
Tm_TSeek_Therapy: we don't code, we just sit on irc07:44
Tm_T(well some of us anyway)07:44
Seek_TherapyI was just noticing that you were chatting about it sorta07:44
naliothSeek_Therapy: you've joined the administrative channel for #ubuntu07:44
Seek_TherapyI was just giving a compliment07:44
Seek_Therapyok..I am leaving07:45
Seek_Therapyyou would think a compliment every now and then , is deserved07:45
Tm_Tit is, but we are not the right target ;)07:46
Seek_Therapyanyway, ok...bye07:46
ubotumagnetron called the ops in #ubuntu (shelly0815_11313)09:46
Myrttishould I take joins parts and quits off the ignore again...09:47
Tm_TMyrtti: never ignore11:00
Myrttibut the traffic is HUmongous11:03
Myrtti*sigh*11:03
Tm_TI know11:03
Tm_Tbut still11:03
Tm_TI even have double of traffic11:03
Tm_T1022 -!- Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-ops11:04
Tm_T1022 -!- Fujitsu is "William Grant"11:04
Tm_Tetc11:04
Tm_Tbut I think I have been in IRC enough for today so see you some day later ->11:06
ubotuWaltzingAlong called the ops in #kubuntu (user_)11:18
Gary<USHTARI_GV> is spamming #ubuntu11:25
ikonianot any more11:52
Garyno, he left in the end11:57
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no0ticnews on CC?13:03
Picinews? did something happen?13:03
no0ticPici, no, I would like to know if there's an appointment13:04
Mezappointment to the CC?13:04
no0ticnext meeting13:05
PiciShould be on the Fridge13:05
no0ticPici, ok, so there isn't one yet 13:06
no0ticPici, I'll control fridge rss time to time 13:06
ubotugordonjcp called the ops in #ubuntu (peppeniello)14:00
no0ticon -it we had a stupid attack from bots14:17
no0ticcould anyone do anything?14:17
PiciNotify a staff member?14:18
elkbuntuthere's actually someone listed with /stats p for once14:19
Piciwow14:19
Pici.14:19
no0ticPici, notified :)14:20
no0ticGannef14:20
no0ticelkbuntu, yes, very strange14:20
no0ticif you want.. http://pastebin.com/m529ee4e314:21
no0ticthose are their quits14:21
elkbuntuset a ban on *!570479d4@* for a start, it'll stop most of them if they try return14:28
no0tic+J 3,5 ?14:30
elkbuntudunno, i dont speak +J14:30
no0tic(I think it's a good mean of normal user joins)14:30
Seeker`5 users in 15 seconds?14:30
no0ticSeeker`, uhm.. I misunderstood :P14:30
no0ticSeeker`, but yes something similar :) we are not so crowded14:31
Seeker`I thought +J x.y allowed roughly y users in x*y seconds14:31
Seeker`!modes14:31
ubotuThere are many different channel and user modes on Freenode (see !freenode). Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml14:31
no0ticSeeker`, yes, it is14:32
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snakeits too many time that i am banned tu ubuntu for a word i said and elkbuntu said to me the ban will be removed for 24 hours15:38
snakecan someone please unban me15:38
snakethank you15:38
PriceChildsnake, I'll take a look.15:40
snakePriceChild: thank you15:40
ubotudgjones called the ops in #ubuntu (aluno)15:41
PriceChildsnake, have you read the ubuntu irc guidelines?15:44
LjLPriceChild: hold on a second15:44
PriceChildLjL, hmm?15:44
snakePriceChild: i know what i have done15:45
snakeit was my fault 15:45
snakei said that before15:45
PriceChildsnake, ok then please go and read the guidelines15:45
PriceChild!guidelines15:45
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines15:45
snakebut this doesnt mean i have to stay banned for life15:45
PriceChildI never said, nor implied any such thing.15:47
snakePriceChild: ok i read the guideline15:48
snakei have always past good times to ubuntu so what i mean is that 15:49
PriceChildsnake, are there other users with access to your machine?15:49
snakePriceChild: no15:49
snakeonly me15:49
LjLsnake, it would have been easier, at least for me, if you had joined with the "asaup" nickname15:50
LjLnow you've made me wonder who i was looking at15:50
PiciI'm confused.15:51
LjLsnake, yesterday i told you the following:15:51
LjL[Tue Nov 13 2007] [18:53:21] <LjL>      hm, asaup, you realize that responding to insults with insults is worse than insulting in the first place? channels have trolls. they're idiots. making you reach their level is what they want.15:51
PiciBut dont mind me, I'm always confused.15:51
LjL[Tue Nov 13 2007] [18:57:36] <LjL>      also, asaup, changing your nickname and all the various identifying information doesn't testify in your favor - at all15:51
LjLthen you went away15:51
snakeLjL: sorry 15:52
snakethat is my registered15:52
snakenick15:52
snakei use this nick not here15:52
snakebut konversation has remembered my nick15:52
snakeits always me 15:52
LjLsnake, when banned people change their identifying information, we usually suspect (and with good reason) that they're trying to dodge the ban.15:53
LjLi'll make an exception and assume you aren't doing that15:53
LjLjust please make sure you abide by the guidelines and everything in « /msg ubotu etiquette »15:53
snakeLjL: no 15:54
snakei do not want that15:55
snakeplese take 15:55
snakeas much time 15:55
snakeas you want15:55
LjLwant what?15:55
snaketo consider if i am doing15:55
snakesomething wrong15:55
snakewhat i mean is that15:55
snakei will never 15:55
snakewanted to do something out the rules15:56
LjLsnake, i've considered, and i've decided that time will tell us if you deserve other bans. right now though, you are free to join.15:56
snakesorry for that15:56
snakeyou can see other logs if you want so please see any log with snake or asaup15:56
snakethey are mine15:56
snakeyou will see that this is the first time15:57
LjLsnake: remember, trolls should not be fed. if someone is trolling heavily, come here and tell us - don't insult them back15:57
snakefrom the beggining15:57
LjLsnake: yup, i can see that. i'm confident it will be the only time too15:57
LjLso, join and enojy15:57
snakeLjL: thanks15:57
snake:)15:57
snakethank you 15:57
snakei really mean that 15:57
snakebecause i have always passed a fantastic time 15:58
snakehere15:58
snakeand never get out without someone helping me15:58
LjLanother thing... =) it doesn't really matter very much here, but in #ubuntu, remember:15:58
LjL!enter15:58
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!15:58
snakeyes 15:58
snakethanks and if its a problem i can part from here15:59
snakedo i have to do so ?? or i can stay here without problems15:59
snakehe15:59
PiciWe'd like if people who didnt have any business here didn't idle.16:00
snakePici: ok than thank you and sorry for what happened. bye16:01
ubotuIn #ubuntu, Inuyasha32246 said: ubotu | what is the answer to life, the universe, and everything17:45
Picitaken care of.17:46
PiciHopefully.17:46
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jdongeveryone's aware of the 403 on Samba updates, right?19:01
jdongin case people come into support channels asking19:01
PiciYes.19:01
jdonggood. all is well. :)19:01
nalioth403 ?19:07
PiciTopic changed in #ubuntu19:08
Picinalioth: The samba upgrade is broken, so they changed the permissions on the deb so that people wouldnt download it19:08
jdongnalioth: bug #16304219:09
ubotuLaunchpad bug 163042 in samba "nmbd crashes after routine Dapper upgrade" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16304219:09
naliothjdong: i see19:09
naliothas it doesn't break the system, i have to wonder why we are making such a deal on it (this is not the first time a package has been held in such a manner)19:10
jdongnalioth: that's a relative term. If my system is a Samba server then it breaks everything about it19:10
PiciI've seen a large number of people with production systems not doing adequate upgrade testing.  19:11
naliothjdong: if i'm not mistaken, folks running a server shouldn't be affected until they reboot.  do samba server users think like windows users and reboot with each upgrade?19:12
jdongnalioth: AFAIK it's affected as soon as the Samba server is restarted19:13
jdongand Samba server admins better be doing whatever is necessary to effect a security update, when it is applied19:13
PiciDont most packages restart their daemons as soon in the post-install steps?19:13
jdongyes19:13
jdongI don't have a Dapper box to test this out on (my Dapper server is actually a Samba PDC)19:14
naliothjdong: so if it didn't install, there should be no postinstall script?19:14
jdongand if I applied this update, my home network will be completely knocked out19:14
jdongnalioth: assuming the user didn't get the faulty update, they are unaffected19:14
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ubotuIn #ubuntu, soundray said: ubotu, nickrud is a competent and helpful support volunteers on #ubuntu19:46
jdong!java19:47
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre19:47
jdongwe should s/interpreter/runtime19:47
jdongand that factoid needs to be updated19:47
Pici!java =~ s/compiler/runtime/19:47
ubotuI'll remember that Pici19:47
PiciHows that?19:47
jdongicedtea-java7-jre, sun-java6-jre for Gutsy, Feisty19:47
jdongjava5 is old, and I don't think anyone comes here for Edgy support anymore either19:48
jdongidn how exactly to word it19:49
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ubotuIn ubotu, recon said: !recon is <reply> It's short for reconnect. not for reconnaissance, or a misspelling of "reckon".20:01
PriceChildSince when?20:05
PriceChildAnd haha at latest xkcd.... tis a good end :)20:05
GaryPriceChild, linky?20:11
PriceChildGary, xkcd.org20:11
Mezxkcd RULES20:12
Mezhow can you not have heard of it Mr. Kearley ?20:12
GaryI have, but I am eating dinner and was being very very lazy20:13
Gary:p20:13
Picitoo lazy to type 8 characters?20:14
Garyand open safari, etc20:14
Gary:p20:14
GaryI typed pr{tab}linky?  that was easier :p20:14
Garythanks PriceChild 20:14
PriceChildGary, wait... i hope you read the entire 5 part series?20:15
PriceChildGary, not just the front page?20:15
Garyoops20:15
PriceChildgah20:15
Seeker`you can just type "xkcd" into firefox's address bar and it takes you to tghe front page20:15
ompaulTm_T, you about?20:18
GaryPriceChild, ahhh, thats better20:19
Garyvery funny20:19
PriceChild:)20:19
PriceChildnow it all makes sense20:19
Garyyay20:19
no0ticsearching ubotu via 'search locale' gives me two results but no one is a factoid, I'm missing something? 21:37
no0ticwhatis # factoid works with ubotu?21:37
PriceChildare you mistaking search with find?21:41
no0ticno, I found :) it works in query as in a channel21:42
no0ticPriceChild, thanks21:42
jussi01can someone explain this to me? [23:46] *** The channel topic is "This is the Official blackhole of Ubuntu chatter || Be nice when playing with the bots! || :inca::porc::love::dito: || Please respect the CoC"22:04
PriceChildhaha22:04
PriceChildping jdong 22:04
jdongoui?22:04
jussi01jdong: ^22:04
PriceChildjdong, look up 4 lines22:04
jdongI didn't do it!22:04
gnomefreakwhat channel?22:04
jdong17:04 -!- Topic set by vorian [] [Tue Nov 13 20:56:21 2007]22:04
PriceChildjussi01, which bit?22:04
PriceChildjdong, yeah but he's away22:05
jdongidn, vorian was having fun I guess :)22:05
jussi01:inca::porc::love::dito:22:05
jussi01that bit PriceChild22:05
jdong*shrugs* I guess I'm to memes what I am to urban slang, and pop culture....22:07
PriceChildjussi01, we had a spammer some time ago....22:08
jussi01PriceChild: ahhh..22:11
ubotubruenig called the ops in #ubuntu (us-robotics)22:27
PriceChildReally don't like the look of GNine22:53
jdongme neither22:54
jdonghe's not the worst, but tends to feel the most flaky as far as spontaneously becoming a troll is concerned22:54
PriceChildjdong, see his comments about being banned in -offtopic etc. earlier/22:55
jdongPriceChild: and the identical comments from 2 weeks ago, and identical ones from a month ago when he joined this channel for the first time?22:55
jdongyeah :)22:55
PriceChildhaha22:55
ubotuIn ubotu, erUSUL said: sambabug is A problem was found on updates packages of some samba programs. That packages are for now on hold. Please be patient and wait until the problem is sorted out. As a workaraund you can disable security updates. See also this bug report22:58
ubotuIn ubotu, erUSUL said: sambabug is A problem was found on updates packages of some samba programs. That packages are for now on hold. Please be patient and wait until the problem is sorted out. As a workaraund you can disable security updates. See also this bug report http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/16311622:59
jdongerr... no thanks?22:59
jdong"As a workaraund you can disable security updates."22:59
ubotuIn ubotu, erUSUL said: sambabug is A problem was found on the updated packages of some samba programs. That packages are for now on hold. Please be patient and wait until the problem is sorted out. As a workaraund you can disable security updates. See also this bug report http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/16311623:00
PriceChildI'm messaging him23:00
mc44yeah should be "As a permanent fix disable security updates" silly23:00
jdongA defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.23:01
jdongwow, that's not any shorter23:01
jdongwell I give up.23:01
jpatrickPriceChild: he's a tough guy23:02
PriceChildjpatrick, hmm?23:03
jpatrickhe's well known in #ubuntu-es23:03
PriceChildah yes23:03
PriceChildHave there been many people in #ubuntu asking about this?23:04
crdlbonly every 30 seconds or so23:04
PriceChild!sambabug is <reply> A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.23:05
ubotuI'll remember that, PriceChild23:05
PriceChildcrdlb, ^23:05
PriceChildjdong, grr just lastlog'ed "samba" in #ubuntu and the result seemed to imply someone was suggesting to one user to turn off security updates...23:05
PriceChildwow first time i've used wget in ages... and its not measuring speed in Kb/s23:06
jdongPriceChild: I pounced on a similar statement on the forums.23:06
PriceChild*smiles inside*23:06
Mezman making a whole CMS from scratch is tiring23:18
PriceChildPeople never cease to amaze...23:49
PriceChildthat fool of a snuxoll in -offtopic just now23:49

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