[01:06] <JanC> PriceChild: at least Ubuntu adds  » alias rm='rm -i --preserve-root' «  to .bashrc by default now, so the classic version for that "joke" would hopefully cause no harm to newbies...
[01:08] <gnomefreak> rm -rf doesnt obey that alias iirc
[01:08] <gnomefreak> and to remove root dir you need -rf and sudo
[01:08] <PriceChild> JanC, people were caught out
[01:11] <JanC> it only works for "/", so if they say to do that on /home that guard wouldn't work indeed
[01:11]  * Hobbsee didn't know about -i --preserve-root
[01:12] <JanC> -i = interactive
[01:12] <JanC> --preserve-root forbids rm -rf on "/"
[01:13] <JanC> it's invented because of the common / path/to/ error I guess
[01:14] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[01:14] <Hobbsee> yeah
[01:16] <mneptok> werd
[01:16] <PriceChild> waddup mneptok 
[01:17] <Hobbsee> oh noes, i'ts mneptok!
[01:21] <mneptok> si /me!!one!!
[01:21] <mneptok> back from All Hands nad a family visit
[01:22] <mneptok> and ready to stab customers in the "it works in Windows!" gland
[01:24] <Hobbsee> haha
[01:24] <Hobbsee> mneptok: did you like all hands?
[01:25] <mneptok> Hobbsee: of course! i got to scare the crap outta a whole buncha fresh meat!
[01:26] <mneptok> and now i'm back and loving our new HDTV and PS3. soon Ubuntu will reign supreme on the entertainment center.
[01:26] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:27] <mneptok> they pass the woowoo test. i'm safe.
[01:28] <Hobbsee> before she kills you, anyway.
[01:36] <jrib> LjL: the bots are yours?
[01:37] <LjL> jrib: yes, ##ljl
[01:59] <mneptok> I'm gonna give her a message, here's what I'm gonna say: "It's all over." She might get out a nightstick
[01:59] <mneptok> and hurt me a real, real bad. By the roadside in a ditch. It's got me under pressure.
[02:55] <LjL> i have BADKITTY on highlight, and indeed he looks like a troll... was giving "real but useless" answers and now, out of the blue, "what's the best media player?"
[02:56] <LjL> [03:55:57] <_ebirtaid> ljl whats with the floddbots
[02:56] <LjL> [03:56:07] [Whois] _ebirtaid is i=ebirtaid@this.is.a.d0ma1n.name (diat)
[02:56] <LjL> weird that someone with such a hostname would ask that, especially with an unregistered nickname
[03:42] <bigfuzzyjesus> when my ban be lifted
[03:42] <bigfuzzyjesus> will
[03:45] <mneptok> bigfuzzyjesus: judging by the fact that it's hardly your first offense, i'd guess it would be quite some time.
[03:46] <bigfuzzyjesus> mneptok, well that is what i have heard, and i keep waiting
[03:46] <bigfuzzyjesus> then i ask
[03:46] <bigfuzzyjesus> occasionally to see what happens
[03:46] <mneptok> bigfuzzyjesus: interesting strategy
[03:47] <bigfuzzyjesus> mneptok, yep
[03:47] <Hobbsee> doesnt' work, though
[03:47] <bigfuzzyjesus> not very successful either :-|
[03:47] <bigfuzzyjesus> exactly
[03:48] <bigfuzzyjesus> http://seifnet.no-ip.org:8080/screensecks.jpg
[03:48] <bigfuzzyjesus> shoot
[03:48] <bigfuzzyjesus> wrong channel
[03:48] <bigfuzzyjesus> sorry
[03:51] <mneptok> http://seifnet.no-ip.org:8080/del/numbers.txt
[03:51]  * mneptok sighs
[03:51] <mneptok> someday my generation will retire, and the entire Internet will become filk, World Of Warcraft ogre sex, and "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE."
[03:51] <Hobbsee> going to call them?
[04:03] <elkbuntu> mneptok, i dare you to call some of those numbers :Þ
[04:04] <mneptok> and scream "MMMMM88&&&&&& 'MMM88&&&," into the phone?
[04:05] <elkbuntu> mneptok, that interspersed with manic mutterings about a big fuzzy jesus
[04:05] <tonyyarusso> how does one scream an &?
[04:05] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, AMPERSAND AMPERSAND AMPERSAND
[04:06] <tonyyarusso> sounds like a lot of work
[04:06] <elkbuntu> it'd be worth it
[04:11] <mneptok> i picture it more as "MATE MATE MATE AND AND AND MATE MATE AND AND AND AND MATE MATE MATE"
[04:12] <mneptok> you know, the internal monologue of every 18 year old
[04:30] <Tm_T> aww
[04:58] <Myrtti> groo
[04:58] <Myrtti> gmorron
[05:15] <Tm_T> !touchpad is <alias> synaptics
[05:15] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Tm_T
[05:20] <Myrtti> Seveas: thank you
[05:23] <JanC> eh, many touchpads aren't synaptics  ;)
[05:24] <Tm_T> JanC: I know but as long as there's no other factoid made for it, it's better than nothing
[05:25] <JanC> actually, I have never seen one from synaptics
[05:25] <JanC> which is 0/3 touchpads used  ;)
[07:38] <Seek_Therapy> can i set up a proxy for irc konversation?
[07:38] <Myrtti> say, what?
[07:39] <Seek_Therapy> I'm new...sorry
[07:39] <Tm_T> Seek_Therapy: topic
[07:39] <Myrtti> proxy? konversation?
[07:40] <Seek_Therapy> is this illegal?
[07:40] <nalioth> Seek_Therapy: this is not a support channel   :)
[07:40] <Seek_Therapy> i know...but you guys would know this for sure
[07:41] <Tm_T> no, that doesn't mean we will give support here
[07:41] <Myrtti> /me sometimes hates the kde developers for their naming schemes
[07:41] <Tm_T> Myrtti: but it's Kool!
[07:41] <Myrtti> *hrmph*
[07:42] <Tm_T> Seek_Therapy: feel free to leave, and join some support channel ;)
[07:43] <Seek_Therapy> I hate that its so hard to learn programming....I have truely hand it to you guys...good job
[07:43] <Myrtti> hrmmm?
[07:43] <Myrtti> I'm confused
[07:43] <Seek_Therapy> I'm being serious
[07:43] <nalioth> Seek_Therapy: join #konversation (it should be more helpful for you)
[07:44] <Tm_T> Seek_Therapy: we don't code, we just sit on irc
[07:44] <Tm_T> (well some of us anyway)
[07:44] <Seek_Therapy> I was just noticing that you were chatting about it sorta
[07:44] <nalioth> Seek_Therapy: you've joined the administrative channel for #ubuntu
[07:44] <Seek_Therapy> I was just giving a compliment
[07:45] <Seek_Therapy> ok..I am leaving
[07:45] <Seek_Therapy> you would think a compliment every now and then , is deserved
[07:46] <Tm_T> it is, but we are not the right target ;)
[07:46] <Seek_Therapy> anyway, ok...bye
[09:46] <ubotu> magnetron called the ops in #ubuntu (shelly0815_11313)
[09:47] <Myrtti> should I take joins parts and quits off the ignore again...
[11:00] <Tm_T> Myrtti: never ignore
[11:03] <Myrtti> but the traffic is HUmongous
[11:03] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[11:03] <Tm_T> I know
[11:03] <Tm_T> but still
[11:03] <Tm_T> I even have double of traffic
[11:04] <Tm_T> 1022 -!- Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-ops
[11:04] <Tm_T> 1022 -!- Fujitsu is "William Grant"
[11:04] <Tm_T> etc
[11:06] <Tm_T> but I think I have been in IRC enough for today so see you some day later ->
[11:18] <ubotu> WaltzingAlong called the ops in #kubuntu (user_)
 is spamming #ubuntu
[11:52] <ikonia> not any more
[11:57] <Gary> no, he left in the end
[13:03] <no0tic> news on CC?
[13:03] <Pici> news? did something happen?
[13:04] <no0tic> Pici, no, I would like to know if there's an appointment
[13:04] <Mez> appointment to the CC?
[13:05] <no0tic> next meeting
[13:05] <Pici> Should be on the Fridge
[13:06] <no0tic> Pici, ok, so there isn't one yet 
[13:06] <no0tic> Pici, I'll control fridge rss time to time 
[14:00] <ubotu> gordonjcp called the ops in #ubuntu (peppeniello)
[14:17] <no0tic> on -it we had a stupid attack from bots
[14:17] <no0tic> could anyone do anything?
[14:18] <Pici> Notify a staff member?
[14:19] <elkbuntu> there's actually someone listed with /stats p for once
[14:19] <Pici> wow
[14:19] <Pici> .
[14:20] <no0tic> Pici, notified :)
[14:20] <no0tic> Gannef
[14:20] <no0tic> elkbuntu, yes, very strange
[14:21] <no0tic> if you want.. http://pastebin.com/m529ee4e3
[14:21] <no0tic> those are their quits
[14:28] <elkbuntu> set a ban on *!570479d4@* for a start, it'll stop most of them if they try return
[14:30] <no0tic> +J 3,5 ?
[14:30] <elkbuntu> dunno, i dont speak +J
[14:30] <no0tic> (I think it's a good mean of normal user joins)
[14:30] <Seeker`> 5 users in 15 seconds?
[14:30] <no0tic> Seeker`, uhm.. I misunderstood :P
[14:31] <no0tic> Seeker`, but yes something similar :) we are not so crowded
[14:31] <Seeker`> I thought +J x.y allowed roughly y users in x*y seconds
[14:31] <Seeker`> !modes
[14:31] <ubotu> There are many different channel and user modes on Freenode (see !freenode). Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[14:32] <no0tic> Seeker`, yes, it is
[15:38] <snake> its too many time that i am banned tu ubuntu for a word i said and elkbuntu said to me the ban will be removed for 24 hours
[15:38] <snake> can someone please unban me
[15:38] <snake> thank you
[15:40] <PriceChild> snake, I'll take a look.
[15:40] <snake> PriceChild: thank you
[15:41] <ubotu> dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu (aluno)
[15:44] <PriceChild> snake, have you read the ubuntu irc guidelines?
[15:44] <LjL> PriceChild: hold on a second
[15:44] <PriceChild> LjL, hmm?
[15:45] <snake> PriceChild: i know what i have done
[15:45] <snake> it was my fault 
[15:45] <snake> i said that before
[15:45] <PriceChild> snake, ok then please go and read the guidelines
[15:45] <PriceChild> !guidelines
[15:45] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[15:45] <snake> but this doesnt mean i have to stay banned for life
[15:47] <PriceChild> I never said, nor implied any such thing.
[15:48] <snake> PriceChild: ok i read the guideline
[15:49] <snake> i have always past good times to ubuntu so what i mean is that 
[15:49] <PriceChild> snake, are there other users with access to your machine?
[15:49] <snake> PriceChild: no
[15:49] <snake> only me
[15:50] <LjL> snake, it would have been easier, at least for me, if you had joined with the "asaup" nickname
[15:50] <LjL> now you've made me wonder who i was looking at
[15:51] <Pici> I'm confused.
[15:51] <LjL> snake, yesterday i told you the following:
[15:51] <LjL> [Tue Nov 13 2007] [18:53:21] <LjL>      hm, asaup, you realize that responding to insults with insults is worse than insulting in the first place? channels have trolls. they're idiots. making you reach their level is what they want.
[15:51] <Pici> But dont mind me, I'm always confused.
[15:51] <LjL> [Tue Nov 13 2007] [18:57:36] <LjL>      also, asaup, changing your nickname and all the various identifying information doesn't testify in your favor - at all
[15:51] <LjL> then you went away
[15:52] <snake> LjL: sorry 
[15:52] <snake> that is my registered
[15:52] <snake> nick
[15:52] <snake> i use this nick not here
[15:52] <snake> but konversation has remembered my nick
[15:52] <snake> its always me 
[15:53] <LjL> snake, when banned people change their identifying information, we usually suspect (and with good reason) that they're trying to dodge the ban.
[15:53] <LjL> i'll make an exception and assume you aren't doing that
[15:53] <LjL> just please make sure you abide by the guidelines and everything in « /msg ubotu etiquette »
[15:54] <snake> LjL: no 
[15:55] <snake> i do not want that
[15:55] <snake> plese take 
[15:55] <snake> as much time 
[15:55] <snake> as you want
[15:55] <LjL> want what?
[15:55] <snake> to consider if i am doing
[15:55] <snake> something wrong
[15:55] <snake> what i mean is that
[15:55] <snake> i will never 
[15:56] <snake> wanted to do something out the rules
[15:56] <LjL> snake, i've considered, and i've decided that time will tell us if you deserve other bans. right now though, you are free to join.
[15:56] <snake> sorry for that
[15:56] <snake> you can see other logs if you want so please see any log with snake or asaup
[15:56] <snake> they are mine
[15:57] <snake> you will see that this is the first time
[15:57] <LjL> snake: remember, trolls should not be fed. if someone is trolling heavily, come here and tell us - don't insult them back
[15:57] <snake> from the beggining
[15:57] <LjL> snake: yup, i can see that. i'm confident it will be the only time too
[15:57] <LjL> so, join and enojy
[15:57] <snake> LjL: thanks
[15:57] <snake> :)
[15:57] <snake> thank you 
[15:57] <snake> i really mean that 
[15:58] <snake> because i have always passed a fantastic time 
[15:58] <snake> here
[15:58] <snake> and never get out without someone helping me
[15:58] <LjL> another thing... =) it doesn't really matter very much here, but in #ubuntu, remember:
[15:58] <LjL> !enter
[15:58] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:58] <snake> yes 
[15:59] <snake> thanks and if its a problem i can part from here
[15:59] <snake> do i have to do so ?? or i can stay here without problems
[15:59] <snake> he
[16:00] <Pici> We'd like if people who didnt have any business here didn't idle.
[16:01] <snake> Pici: ok than thank you and sorry for what happened. bye
[17:45] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, Inuyasha32246 said: ubotu | what is the answer to life, the universe, and everything
[17:46] <Pici> taken care of.
[17:46] <Pici> Hopefully.
[19:01] <jdong> everyone's aware of the 403 on Samba updates, right?
[19:01] <jdong> in case people come into support channels asking
[19:01] <Pici> Yes.
[19:01] <jdong> good. all is well. :)
[19:07] <nalioth> 403 ?
[19:08] <Pici> Topic changed in #ubuntu
[19:08] <Pici> nalioth: The samba upgrade is broken, so they changed the permissions on the deb so that people wouldnt download it
[19:09] <jdong> nalioth: bug #163042
[19:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 163042 in samba "nmbd crashes after routine Dapper upgrade" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163042
[19:09] <nalioth> jdong: i see
[19:10] <nalioth> as it doesn't break the system, i have to wonder why we are making such a deal on it (this is not the first time a package has been held in such a manner)
[19:10] <jdong> nalioth: that's a relative term. If my system is a Samba server then it breaks everything about it
[19:11] <Pici> I've seen a large number of people with production systems not doing adequate upgrade testing.  
[19:12] <nalioth> jdong: if i'm not mistaken, folks running a server shouldn't be affected until they reboot.  do samba server users think like windows users and reboot with each upgrade?
[19:13] <jdong> nalioth: AFAIK it's affected as soon as the Samba server is restarted
[19:13] <jdong> and Samba server admins better be doing whatever is necessary to effect a security update, when it is applied
[19:13] <Pici> Dont most packages restart their daemons as soon in the post-install steps?
[19:13] <jdong> yes
[19:14] <jdong> I don't have a Dapper box to test this out on (my Dapper server is actually a Samba PDC)
[19:14] <nalioth> jdong: so if it didn't install, there should be no postinstall script?
[19:14] <jdong> and if I applied this update, my home network will be completely knocked out
[19:14] <jdong> nalioth: assuming the user didn't get the faulty update, they are unaffected
[19:46] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, soundray said: ubotu, nickrud is a competent and helpful support volunteers on #ubuntu
[19:47] <jdong> !java
[19:47] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[19:47] <jdong> we should s/interpreter/runtime
[19:47] <jdong> and that factoid needs to be updated
[19:47] <Pici> !java =~ s/compiler/runtime/
[19:47] <ubotu> I'll remember that Pici
[19:47] <Pici> Hows that?
[19:47] <jdong> icedtea-java7-jre, sun-java6-jre for Gutsy, Feisty
[19:48] <jdong> java5 is old, and I don't think anyone comes here for Edgy support anymore either
[19:49] <jdong> idn how exactly to word it
[20:01] <ubotu> In ubotu, recon said: !recon is <reply> It's short for reconnect. not for reconnaissance, or a misspelling of "reckon".
[20:05] <PriceChild> Since when?
[20:05] <PriceChild> And haha at latest xkcd.... tis a good end :)
[20:11] <Gary> PriceChild, linky?
[20:11] <PriceChild> Gary, xkcd.org
[20:12] <Mez> xkcd RULES
[20:12] <Mez> how can you not have heard of it Mr. Kearley ?
[20:13] <Gary> I have, but I am eating dinner and was being very very lazy
[20:13] <Gary> :p
[20:14] <Pici> too lazy to type 8 characters?
[20:14] <Gary> and open safari, etc
[20:14] <Gary> :p
[20:14] <Gary> I typed pr{tab}linky?  that was easier :p
[20:14] <Gary> thanks PriceChild 
[20:15] <PriceChild> Gary, wait... i hope you read the entire 5 part series?
[20:15] <PriceChild> Gary, not just the front page?
[20:15] <Gary> oops
[20:15] <PriceChild> gah
[20:15] <Seeker`> you can just type "xkcd" into firefox's address bar and it takes you to tghe front page
[20:18] <ompaul> Tm_T, you about?
[20:19] <Gary> PriceChild, ahhh, thats better
[20:19] <Gary> very funny
[20:19] <PriceChild> :)
[20:19] <PriceChild> now it all makes sense
[20:19] <Gary> yay
[21:37] <no0tic> searching ubotu via 'search locale' gives me two results but no one is a factoid, I'm missing something? 
[21:37] <no0tic> whatis # factoid works with ubotu?
[21:41] <PriceChild> are you mistaking search with find?
[21:42] <no0tic> no, I found :) it works in query as in a channel
[21:42] <no0tic> PriceChild, thanks
[22:04] <jussi01> can someone explain this to me? [23:46] *** The channel topic is "This is the Official blackhole of Ubuntu chatter || Be nice when playing with the bots! || :inca::porc::love::dito: || Please respect the CoC"
[22:04] <PriceChild> haha
[22:04] <PriceChild> ping jdong 
[22:04] <jdong> oui?
[22:04] <jussi01> jdong: ^
[22:04] <PriceChild> jdong, look up 4 lines
[22:04] <jdong> I didn't do it!
[22:04] <gnomefreak> what channel?
[22:04] <jdong> 17:04 -!- Topic set by vorian [] [Tue Nov 13 20:56:21 2007]
[22:04] <PriceChild> jussi01, which bit?
[22:05] <PriceChild> jdong, yeah but he's away
[22:05] <jdong> idn, vorian was having fun I guess :)
[22:05] <jussi01> :inca::porc::love::dito:
[22:05] <jussi01> that bit PriceChild
[22:07] <jdong> *shrugs* I guess I'm to memes what I am to urban slang, and pop culture....
[22:08] <PriceChild> jussi01, we had a spammer some time ago....
[22:11] <jussi01> PriceChild: ahhh..
[22:27] <ubotu> bruenig called the ops in #ubuntu (us-robotics)
[22:53] <PriceChild> Really don't like the look of GNine
[22:54] <jdong> me neither
[22:54] <jdong> he's not the worst, but tends to feel the most flaky as far as spontaneously becoming a troll is concerned
[22:55] <PriceChild> jdong, see his comments about being banned in -offtopic etc. earlier/
[22:55] <jdong> PriceChild: and the identical comments from 2 weeks ago, and identical ones from a month ago when he joined this channel for the first time?
[22:55] <jdong> yeah :)
[22:55] <PriceChild> haha
[22:58] <ubotu> In ubotu, erUSUL said: sambabug is A problem was found on updates packages of some samba programs. That packages are for now on hold. Please be patient and wait until the problem is sorted out. As a workaraund you can disable security updates. See also this bug report
[22:59] <ubotu> In ubotu, erUSUL said: sambabug is A problem was found on updates packages of some samba programs. That packages are for now on hold. Please be patient and wait until the problem is sorted out. As a workaraund you can disable security updates. See also this bug report http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/163116
[22:59] <jdong> err... no thanks?
[22:59] <jdong> "As a workaraund you can disable security updates."
[23:00] <ubotu> In ubotu, erUSUL said: sambabug is A problem was found on the updated packages of some samba programs. That packages are for now on hold. Please be patient and wait until the problem is sorted out. As a workaraund you can disable security updates. See also this bug report http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/163116
[23:00] <PriceChild> I'm messaging him
[23:00] <mc44> yeah should be "As a permanent fix disable security updates" silly
[23:01] <jdong> A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[23:01] <jdong> wow, that's not any shorter
[23:01] <jdong> well I give up.
[23:02] <jpatrick> PriceChild: he's a tough guy
[23:03] <PriceChild> jpatrick, hmm?
[23:03] <jpatrick> he's well known in #ubuntu-es
[23:03] <PriceChild> ah yes
[23:04] <PriceChild> Have there been many people in #ubuntu asking about this?
[23:04] <crdlb> only every 30 seconds or so
[23:05] <PriceChild> !sambabug is <reply> A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[23:05] <ubotu> I'll remember that, PriceChild
[23:05] <PriceChild> crdlb, ^
[23:05] <PriceChild> jdong, grr just lastlog'ed "samba" in #ubuntu and the result seemed to imply someone was suggesting to one user to turn off security updates...
[23:06] <PriceChild> wow first time i've used wget in ages... and its not measuring speed in Kb/s
[23:06] <jdong> PriceChild: I pounced on a similar statement on the forums.
[23:06] <PriceChild> *smiles inside*
[23:18] <Mez> man making a whole CMS from scratch is tiring
[23:49] <PriceChild> People never cease to amaze...
[23:49] <PriceChild> that fool of a snuxoll in -offtopic just now