[01:06] PriceChild: at least Ubuntu adds » alias rm='rm -i --preserve-root' « to .bashrc by default now, so the classic version for that "joke" would hopefully cause no harm to newbies... [01:08] rm -rf doesnt obey that alias iirc [01:08] and to remove root dir you need -rf and sudo [01:08] JanC, people were caught out [01:11] it only works for "/", so if they say to do that on /home that guard wouldn't work indeed [01:11] * Hobbsee didn't know about -i --preserve-root [01:12] -i = interactive [01:12] --preserve-root forbids rm -rf on "/" [01:13] it's invented because of the common / path/to/ error I guess [01:14] ahhh [01:14] yeah [01:16] werd [01:16] waddup mneptok [01:17] oh noes, i'ts mneptok! [01:21] si /me!!one!! [01:21] back from All Hands nad a family visit [01:22] and ready to stab customers in the "it works in Windows!" gland [01:24] haha [01:24] mneptok: did you like all hands? [01:25] Hobbsee: of course! i got to scare the crap outta a whole buncha fresh meat! [01:26] and now i'm back and loving our new HDTV and PS3. soon Ubuntu will reign supreme on the entertainment center. [01:26] hehe [01:27] they pass the woowoo test. i'm safe. [01:28] before she kills you, anyway. === tritium_ is now known as tritium [01:36] LjL: the bots are yours? [01:37] jrib: yes, ##ljl [01:59] I'm gonna give her a message, here's what I'm gonna say: "It's all over." She might get out a nightstick [01:59] and hurt me a real, real bad. By the roadside in a ditch. It's got me under pressure. [02:55] i have BADKITTY on highlight, and indeed he looks like a troll... was giving "real but useless" answers and now, out of the blue, "what's the best media player?" [02:56] [03:55:57] <_ebirtaid> ljl whats with the floddbots [02:56] [03:56:07] [Whois] _ebirtaid is i=ebirtaid@this.is.a.d0ma1n.name (diat) [02:56] weird that someone with such a hostname would ask that, especially with an unregistered nickname === rob1 is now known as rob [03:42] when my ban be lifted [03:42] will [03:45] bigfuzzyjesus: judging by the fact that it's hardly your first offense, i'd guess it would be quite some time. [03:46] mneptok, well that is what i have heard, and i keep waiting [03:46] then i ask [03:46] occasionally to see what happens [03:46] bigfuzzyjesus: interesting strategy [03:47] mneptok, yep [03:47] doesnt' work, though [03:47] not very successful either :-| [03:47] exactly [03:48] http://seifnet.no-ip.org:8080/screensecks.jpg [03:48] shoot [03:48] wrong channel [03:48] sorry [03:51] http://seifnet.no-ip.org:8080/del/numbers.txt [03:51] * mneptok sighs [03:51] someday my generation will retire, and the entire Internet will become filk, World Of Warcraft ogre sex, and "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE." [03:51] going to call them? [04:03] mneptok, i dare you to call some of those numbers :Þ [04:04] and scream "MMMMM88&&&&&& 'MMM88&&&," into the phone? [04:05] mneptok, that interspersed with manic mutterings about a big fuzzy jesus [04:05] how does one scream an &? [04:05] tonyyarusso, AMPERSAND AMPERSAND AMPERSAND [04:06] sounds like a lot of work [04:06] it'd be worth it [04:11] i picture it more as "MATE MATE MATE AND AND AND MATE MATE AND AND AND AND MATE MATE MATE" [04:12] you know, the internal monologue of every 18 year old [04:30] aww [04:58] groo [04:58] gmorron [05:15] !touchpad is synaptics [05:15] I'll remember that, Tm_T [05:20] Seveas: thank you [05:23] eh, many touchpads aren't synaptics ;) [05:24] JanC: I know but as long as there's no other factoid made for it, it's better than nothing [05:25] actually, I have never seen one from synaptics [05:25] which is 0/3 touchpads used ;) [07:38] can i set up a proxy for irc konversation? [07:38] say, what? [07:39] I'm new...sorry [07:39] Seek_Therapy: topic [07:39] proxy? konversation? [07:40] is this illegal? [07:40] Seek_Therapy: this is not a support channel :) [07:40] i know...but you guys would know this for sure [07:41] no, that doesn't mean we will give support here [07:41] /me sometimes hates the kde developers for their naming schemes [07:41] Myrtti: but it's Kool! [07:41] *hrmph* [07:42] Seek_Therapy: feel free to leave, and join some support channel ;) [07:43] I hate that its so hard to learn programming....I have truely hand it to you guys...good job [07:43] hrmmm? [07:43] I'm confused [07:43] I'm being serious [07:43] Seek_Therapy: join #konversation (it should be more helpful for you) [07:44] Seek_Therapy: we don't code, we just sit on irc [07:44] (well some of us anyway) [07:44] I was just noticing that you were chatting about it sorta [07:44] Seek_Therapy: you've joined the administrative channel for #ubuntu [07:44] I was just giving a compliment [07:45] ok..I am leaving [07:45] you would think a compliment every now and then , is deserved [07:46] it is, but we are not the right target ;) [07:46] anyway, ok...bye [09:46] magnetron called the ops in #ubuntu (shelly0815_11313) [09:47] should I take joins parts and quits off the ignore again... [11:00] Myrtti: never ignore [11:03] but the traffic is HUmongous [11:03] *sigh* [11:03] I know [11:03] but still [11:03] I even have double of traffic [11:04] 1022 -!- Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-ops [11:04] 1022 -!- Fujitsu is "William Grant" [11:04] etc [11:06] but I think I have been in IRC enough for today so see you some day later -> [11:18] WaltzingAlong called the ops in #kubuntu (user_) [11:25] is spamming #ubuntu [11:52] not any more [11:57] no, he left in the end === effie_jayx is now known as man === man is now known as effie_jayx [13:03] news on CC? [13:03] news? did something happen? [13:04] Pici, no, I would like to know if there's an appointment [13:04] appointment to the CC? [13:05] next meeting [13:05] Should be on the Fridge [13:06] Pici, ok, so there isn't one yet [13:06] Pici, I'll control fridge rss time to time [14:00] gordonjcp called the ops in #ubuntu (peppeniello) [14:17] on -it we had a stupid attack from bots [14:17] could anyone do anything? [14:18] Notify a staff member? [14:19] there's actually someone listed with /stats p for once [14:19] wow [14:19] . [14:20] Pici, notified :) [14:20] Gannef [14:20] elkbuntu, yes, very strange [14:21] if you want.. http://pastebin.com/m529ee4e3 [14:21] those are their quits [14:28] set a ban on *!570479d4@* for a start, it'll stop most of them if they try return [14:30] +J 3,5 ? [14:30] dunno, i dont speak +J [14:30] (I think it's a good mean of normal user joins) [14:30] 5 users in 15 seconds? [14:30] Seeker`, uhm.. I misunderstood :P [14:31] Seeker`, but yes something similar :) we are not so crowded [14:31] I thought +J x.y allowed roughly y users in x*y seconds [14:31] !modes [14:31] There are many different channel and user modes on Freenode (see !freenode). Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml [14:32] Seeker`, yes, it is === elkbuntu_ is now known as elkbuntu [15:38] its too many time that i am banned tu ubuntu for a word i said and elkbuntu said to me the ban will be removed for 24 hours [15:38] can someone please unban me [15:38] thank you [15:40] snake, I'll take a look. [15:40] PriceChild: thank you [15:41] dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu (aluno) [15:44] snake, have you read the ubuntu irc guidelines? [15:44] PriceChild: hold on a second [15:44] LjL, hmm? [15:45] PriceChild: i know what i have done [15:45] it was my fault [15:45] i said that before [15:45] snake, ok then please go and read the guidelines [15:45] !guidelines [15:45] The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [15:45] but this doesnt mean i have to stay banned for life [15:47] I never said, nor implied any such thing. [15:48] PriceChild: ok i read the guideline [15:49] i have always past good times to ubuntu so what i mean is that [15:49] snake, are there other users with access to your machine? [15:49] PriceChild: no [15:49] only me [15:50] snake, it would have been easier, at least for me, if you had joined with the "asaup" nickname [15:50] now you've made me wonder who i was looking at [15:51] I'm confused. [15:51] snake, yesterday i told you the following: [15:51] [Tue Nov 13 2007] [18:53:21] hm, asaup, you realize that responding to insults with insults is worse than insulting in the first place? channels have trolls. they're idiots. making you reach their level is what they want. [15:51] But dont mind me, I'm always confused. [15:51] [Tue Nov 13 2007] [18:57:36] also, asaup, changing your nickname and all the various identifying information doesn't testify in your favor - at all [15:51] then you went away [15:52] LjL: sorry [15:52] that is my registered [15:52] nick [15:52] i use this nick not here [15:52] but konversation has remembered my nick [15:52] its always me [15:53] snake, when banned people change their identifying information, we usually suspect (and with good reason) that they're trying to dodge the ban. [15:53] i'll make an exception and assume you aren't doing that [15:53] just please make sure you abide by the guidelines and everything in « /msg ubotu etiquette » [15:54] LjL: no [15:55] i do not want that [15:55] plese take [15:55] as much time [15:55] as you want [15:55] want what? [15:55] to consider if i am doing [15:55] something wrong [15:55] what i mean is that [15:55] i will never [15:56] wanted to do something out the rules [15:56] snake, i've considered, and i've decided that time will tell us if you deserve other bans. right now though, you are free to join. [15:56] sorry for that [15:56] you can see other logs if you want so please see any log with snake or asaup [15:56] they are mine [15:57] you will see that this is the first time [15:57] snake: remember, trolls should not be fed. if someone is trolling heavily, come here and tell us - don't insult them back [15:57] from the beggining [15:57] snake: yup, i can see that. i'm confident it will be the only time too [15:57] so, join and enojy [15:57] LjL: thanks [15:57] :) [15:57] thank you [15:57] i really mean that [15:58] because i have always passed a fantastic time [15:58] here [15:58] and never get out without someone helping me [15:58] another thing... =) it doesn't really matter very much here, but in #ubuntu, remember: [15:58] !enter [15:58] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [15:58] yes [15:59] thanks and if its a problem i can part from here [15:59] do i have to do so ?? or i can stay here without problems [15:59] he [16:00] We'd like if people who didnt have any business here didn't idle. [16:01] Pici: ok than thank you and sorry for what happened. bye [17:45] In #ubuntu, Inuyasha32246 said: ubotu | what is the answer to life, the universe, and everything [17:46] taken care of. [17:46] Hopefully. === TheSheep_ is now known as TheSheep [19:01] everyone's aware of the 403 on Samba updates, right? [19:01] in case people come into support channels asking [19:01] Yes. [19:01] good. all is well. :) [19:07] 403 ? [19:08] Topic changed in #ubuntu [19:08] nalioth: The samba upgrade is broken, so they changed the permissions on the deb so that people wouldnt download it [19:09] nalioth: bug #163042 [19:09] Launchpad bug 163042 in samba "nmbd crashes after routine Dapper upgrade" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163042 [19:09] jdong: i see [19:10] as it doesn't break the system, i have to wonder why we are making such a deal on it (this is not the first time a package has been held in such a manner) [19:10] nalioth: that's a relative term. If my system is a Samba server then it breaks everything about it [19:11] I've seen a large number of people with production systems not doing adequate upgrade testing. [19:12] jdong: if i'm not mistaken, folks running a server shouldn't be affected until they reboot. do samba server users think like windows users and reboot with each upgrade? [19:13] nalioth: AFAIK it's affected as soon as the Samba server is restarted [19:13] and Samba server admins better be doing whatever is necessary to effect a security update, when it is applied [19:13] Dont most packages restart their daemons as soon in the post-install steps? [19:13] yes [19:14] I don't have a Dapper box to test this out on (my Dapper server is actually a Samba PDC) [19:14] jdong: so if it didn't install, there should be no postinstall script? [19:14] and if I applied this update, my home network will be completely knocked out [19:14] nalioth: assuming the user didn't get the faulty update, they are unaffected === GazzaK is now known as Gary [19:46] In #ubuntu, soundray said: ubotu, nickrud is a competent and helpful support volunteers on #ubuntu [19:47] !java [19:47] To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre [19:47] we should s/interpreter/runtime [19:47] and that factoid needs to be updated [19:47] !java =~ s/compiler/runtime/ [19:47] I'll remember that Pici [19:47] Hows that? [19:47] icedtea-java7-jre, sun-java6-jre for Gutsy, Feisty [19:48] java5 is old, and I don't think anyone comes here for Edgy support anymore either [19:49] idn how exactly to word it === jpatrick_ is now known as jpatrick [20:01] In ubotu, recon said: !recon is It's short for reconnect. not for reconnaissance, or a misspelling of "reckon". [20:05] Since when? [20:05] And haha at latest xkcd.... tis a good end :) [20:11] PriceChild, linky? [20:11] Gary, xkcd.org [20:12] xkcd RULES [20:12] how can you not have heard of it Mr. Kearley ? [20:13] I have, but I am eating dinner and was being very very lazy [20:13] :p [20:14] too lazy to type 8 characters? [20:14] and open safari, etc [20:14] :p [20:14] I typed pr{tab}linky? that was easier :p [20:14] thanks PriceChild [20:15] Gary, wait... i hope you read the entire 5 part series? [20:15] Gary, not just the front page? [20:15] oops [20:15] gah [20:15] you can just type "xkcd" into firefox's address bar and it takes you to tghe front page [20:18] Tm_T, you about? [20:19] PriceChild, ahhh, thats better [20:19] very funny [20:19] :) [20:19] now it all makes sense [20:19] yay [21:37] searching ubotu via 'search locale' gives me two results but no one is a factoid, I'm missing something? [21:37] whatis # factoid works with ubotu? [21:41] are you mistaking search with find? [21:42] no, I found :) it works in query as in a channel [21:42] PriceChild, thanks [22:04] can someone explain this to me? [23:46] *** The channel topic is "This is the Official blackhole of Ubuntu chatter || Be nice when playing with the bots! || :inca::porc::love::dito: || Please respect the CoC" [22:04] haha [22:04] ping jdong [22:04] oui? [22:04] jdong: ^ [22:04] jdong, look up 4 lines [22:04] I didn't do it! [22:04] what channel? [22:04] 17:04 -!- Topic set by vorian [] [Tue Nov 13 20:56:21 2007] [22:04] jussi01, which bit? [22:05] jdong, yeah but he's away [22:05] idn, vorian was having fun I guess :) [22:05] :inca::porc::love::dito: [22:05] that bit PriceChild [22:07] *shrugs* I guess I'm to memes what I am to urban slang, and pop culture.... [22:08] jussi01, we had a spammer some time ago.... [22:11] PriceChild: ahhh.. [22:27] bruenig called the ops in #ubuntu (us-robotics) [22:53] Really don't like the look of GNine [22:54] me neither [22:54] he's not the worst, but tends to feel the most flaky as far as spontaneously becoming a troll is concerned [22:55] jdong, see his comments about being banned in -offtopic etc. earlier/ [22:55] PriceChild: and the identical comments from 2 weeks ago, and identical ones from a month ago when he joined this channel for the first time? [22:55] yeah :) [22:55] haha [22:58] In ubotu, erUSUL said: sambabug is A problem was found on updates packages of some samba programs. That packages are for now on hold. Please be patient and wait until the problem is sorted out. As a workaraund you can disable security updates. See also this bug report [22:59] In ubotu, erUSUL said: sambabug is A problem was found on updates packages of some samba programs. That packages are for now on hold. Please be patient and wait until the problem is sorted out. As a workaraund you can disable security updates. See also this bug report http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/163116 [22:59] err... no thanks? [22:59] "As a workaraund you can disable security updates." [23:00] In ubotu, erUSUL said: sambabug is A problem was found on the updated packages of some samba programs. That packages are for now on hold. Please be patient and wait until the problem is sorted out. As a workaraund you can disable security updates. See also this bug report http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/163116 [23:00] I'm messaging him [23:00] yeah should be "As a permanent fix disable security updates" silly [23:01] A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved. [23:01] wow, that's not any shorter [23:01] well I give up. [23:02] PriceChild: he's a tough guy [23:03] jpatrick, hmm? [23:03] he's well known in #ubuntu-es [23:03] ah yes [23:04] Have there been many people in #ubuntu asking about this? [23:04] only every 30 seconds or so [23:05] !sambabug is A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved. [23:05] I'll remember that, PriceChild [23:05] crdlb, ^ [23:05] jdong, grr just lastlog'ed "samba" in #ubuntu and the result seemed to imply someone was suggesting to one user to turn off security updates... [23:06] wow first time i've used wget in ages... and its not measuring speed in Kb/s [23:06] PriceChild: I pounced on a similar statement on the forums. [23:06] *smiles inside* [23:18] man making a whole CMS from scratch is tiring [23:49] People never cease to amaze... [23:49] that fool of a snuxoll in -offtopic just now