[00:00] <rbrevoort> unable to play dvd on an ibm thinkpad using totem on ubuntu 7.10
[00:00] <colourAgga> and to be honest i really don't know what a cartesian-plane thingy is :p
[00:00] <ader10> colourAgga: Any other programs?
[00:00] <rbrevoort> unable to play dvd on an ibm thinkpad using totem on ubuntu 7.10
[00:00] <soundray> ader10: are you trying to create an X-Y scatterplot?
[00:00] <rbrevoort> unable to play dvd on an ibm thinkpad using totem on ubuntu 7.10
[00:00] <ader10> colourAgga: not a scatter plot, a regular "graphing calculator style" thing
[00:01] <rbrevoort> unable to play dvd on an ibm thinkpad using totem on ubuntu 7.10
[00:01] <Paddy_EIRE> rbrevoort, did you read !dvd
[00:01] <Oli```> How do I edit the protocol handlers? It currently thinks ftp:// should be handled by firefox and I'd really rather nautilus did it
[00:01] <rbrevoort> yeah sort of
[00:01] <Paddy_EIRE> read it
[00:01] <rbrevoort> unable to play dvd on an ibm thinkpad using totem on ubuntu 7.10
[00:01] <PriitM> Hi! I got external HDD what reports 2gb free room while using ubuntu and 100gb free room on windows system. Folder .trash is 64kb. What could be the problem?
[00:01] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | rbrevoort
[00:01] <ubotu> rbrevoort: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:01] <soundray> ader10: you can do that in oocalc
[00:01] <nifty> soundray:
[00:01] <rbrevoort> unable to play dvd on an ibm thinkpad using totem on ubuntu 7.10
[00:01] <nareshov> rbrevoort, try something else, like ogle
[00:02] <nifty> soundray: i typed the rebuil xorg.cong file command in terminal now what do i do
[00:02] <rbrevoort> nah
[00:02] <digitori__> ader10 this link may be wirth a look http://groups.google.com/group/alt.math/browse_thread/thread/a5dc535d64607660/90613e2d6be93c70
[00:02] <nareshov> mplayer?
[00:02] <ader10> soundray: I have open office calc
[00:02] <colourAgga> ader10: you could try rlplot
[00:02] <rbrevoort> can't install it
[00:02] <jrib> !dvd > rbrevoort (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:02] <ader10> soundray: I can't figure out how to make a graph though
[00:02] <colourAgga> but i really wouldn't know :)
[00:02] <nareshov> apt-get install mplayer
[00:02] <rbrevoort> can't read
[00:02] <nifty> soundray: it says "Package `xserver.xorg' is not installed and no info is available.
[00:02] <nifty> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[00:02] <nifty> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[00:02] <nifty> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver.xorg is not installed"
[00:02] <nckslln> does somebody have an idea why I can't get to the ubuntu login screen? thanks
[00:02] <rbrevoort> unable to play dvd on an ibm thinkpad using totem on ubuntu 7.10
[00:02] <jrib> rbrevoort: can't read?
[00:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Mez, rbrevoort is being intentionally annoying
[00:02] <kode> rbrevoort: type sudo apt-get install mplayer in a terminal
[00:02] <rbrevoort> not really
[00:02] <soundray> nifty: you typed it wrong
[00:02] <jburd> So when will RealTek 3189D ethernet cards be supported by Ubuntu/Linux?
[00:02] <PriitM> Hi! I got external HDD what reports 2gb free room while using ubuntu and 100gb free room on windows system. Folder .trash is 64kb. What could be the problem?
[00:03] <jrib> nifty: - not .
[00:03] <pike_> BlueRider: hmm.. sudo pkill gdm; sudo pkill Xorg perhaps. or mayebe 'ps -A | grep X | awk {"print $ 1"}| sudo xargs -i kill -9 {}'  :-)
[00:03] <Mez> Paddy_EIRE, and you tell ME why?
[00:03] <Mez> oh
[00:03] <nifty> soundray: what is it
[00:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Mez, lol
[00:03] <golemz> I've got a script pharerouge.sh that starts the java pharerouge hl client.  i tried creating a new  menu item, choosing terminal application, and choosing the pharerouge.sh file as the command, but it just flashes the terminal w/out running the program. any advice?
[00:03] <presto101> i wanted to see if anyone has heard of an issue while installing the live cd where you get a input output error
[00:03] <soundray> ader10: I'll guide you
[00:03] <pgan> Hi - my eth0 connection does not come up when I start; I have to run dhclient manually.  According to /var/log/syslog, NetowrkManager disables it: http://pastebin.com/m65148fa0  What can I do?
[00:03] <Reng> hey guys i accidently removed all the "dev" packages. will this cause a major issue?
[00:03] <nifty> soundray : what do i type
[00:03] <jrib> Reng: shouldn't
[00:03] <nareshov> preaction_, yeah, the hard disk cable was loose
[00:03] <preaction_> Reng, no. the *-dev packages are only needed to compile things
[00:03] <ader10> soundray: That would be awesoem-o-rific
[00:04] <NightDragon> ok, it said that it failed
[00:04] <rbrevoort> unable to play dvd on an ibm thinkpad using totem on ubuntu 7.10
[00:04] <pike_> Reng: well you can no longer call yourself a devoloper.
[00:04] <NightDragon> i ran envy
[00:04] <Reng> thnz guy
[00:04] <preaction_> nareshov, kay, thanks
[00:04] <rbrevoort> unable to play dvd on an ibm thinkpad using totem on ubuntu 7.10
[00:04] <jrib> rbrevoort: go read the page, you've been given the answer, stop repeating your question
[00:04] <soundray> ader10: you need your X and Y numbers in a pair of columns. Have you got that?
[00:04] <preaction_> !dvd > rbrevoort (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:04] <ader10> soundray: hold on 1 moment
[00:05] <nareshov> SATA cables are notorious, they're stiff and you move them around a bit and things get loose
[00:05] <steel_lady> Hi! I recently installed sometging to run IE ON WINE but I do not remember the name and how to run it. help please!
[00:05] <rbrevoort> which plugin do i choose?
[00:05] <rbrevoort> unable to play dvd on an ibm thinkpad using totem on ubuntu 7.10
[00:05] <Paddy_EIRE> rbrevoort, if you are unwilling to read then there is no help for you here!
[00:05] <rbrevoort> just read it
[00:05] <colourAgga> rbrevoort: destroy your timer
[00:05] <nckslln> if someone could point to where a log file would be for the start up bit till just before where I would type my name in that would be useful, then I can have a look and try and work it out.... I'm pretty frustrated with it, it's been working fine up till now and it's going up to an exhibition tomorrow!
[00:05] <rbrevoort> ok
[00:05] <FluxD> !w32codecs | rbrevoort
[00:05] <ubotu> rbrevoort: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[00:05] <nifty> soundray: i typed it correct this time
[00:06] <pike_> steel_lady: ie4linux if you ran that script you now have a ~/bin directory in your home so just cd ~/bin and ./ie
[00:06] <rbrevoort> what's that?
[00:06] <golemz> !Codecs
[00:06] <jburd> steel_lady: ie4linux
[00:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:06] <pike_> steel_lady: there is also a link in your menu or should be
[00:06] <ader10> soundray: What chart type?
[00:06] <Paddy_EIRE> !dvd | rbrevoort
[00:06] <preaction_> nckslln, /var/log/boot.log or 'dmesg | less'
[00:06] <ubotu> rbrevoort: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[00:06] <digitori__> steel lady open a terminal window and type wine iexplore
[00:06] <nckslln> preaction: ok thanks I'll have a look....
[00:06] <digitori__> hit enter
[00:06] <soundray> ader10: are you on gutsy or feisty?
[00:06] <steel_lady> pike there is no link in the menu
[00:06] <ader10> gutsy
[00:07] <soundray> ader10: try "Line"
[00:07] <digitori__> steel lady open a terminal window and type wine iexplore then hit enter
[00:07] <jimmygoon> I admit this is a hardware problem, but I would like to know what y'all think: when I turn my screen (the hinge on the laptop/lcd fold) the screen "glitches" and goes loopy and cuts in and out.... I JUST had the system board replaced at the factory... loose cable?
[00:07] <nifty> Ho do you take screen shot in ubuntu
[00:07] <presto101> im trying to install 7.10 and im getting a input output error 7.04 works ok and other distros do as well does anyone know about this issue
[00:07] <ader10> soundray: Data range?
[00:07] <jimmygoon> nifty, press the screenshot button
[00:07] <soundray> nifty: Applications-Accessories-Screenshot
[00:07] <jimmygoon> nifty, or run "gnome-screenshot"
[00:07] <colourAgga> jimmygoon: cable problem
[00:07] <rbrevoort> is there an issue with 7.10??
[00:07] <Palintheus> jimmygoon: yes, cable problem
[00:07] <jimmygoon> colourAgga, ugh! I guess the warranty did just run out so I can open it up and have at it
[00:07] <Reng> how do you guys respond the the person with red lettering?
[00:08] <soundray> ader10: select your data columns with the mouse
[00:08] <preaction_> !who | Reng
[00:08] <ubotu> Reng: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[00:08] <jrib> Reng: use thir nick in your response
[00:08] <pike_> jimmygoon: nope if they introduced it id make em fix it
[00:08] <rbrevoort> is there an issue with 7.10?
[00:08] <colourAgga> jimmygoon: yes you could but opening a laptop is a hell and they use proprietary cables
[00:08] <nonix4> Grr... install-css.sh => install-css.sh
[00:08] <Palintheus> rbrevoort: what kind of issue?
[00:08] <jrib> rbrevoort: if you don't stop being annoying, you're going to be banned
[00:08] <colourAgga> you can't just solder it, it's all really small and tidy
[00:08] <rbrevoort> don't is there one?
[00:08] <rbrevoort> know
[00:08] <nonix4> I meant, checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[00:08] <jimmygoon> colourAgga, I've been through everything. I ripped apart two laptops last christmas ALL the way 100% and built picture frames out of them... so I'm not worried about that
[00:09] <colourAgga> i know, i used to have a client who repairs these stuff
[00:09] <golemz> i've just connected to an smb share, opened rhythmbox, and dragged a folder to the playlist.  Nothing :(
[00:09] <rbrevoort> why?
[00:09] <pike_> rbrevoort: there are several but that is true of every os in every version
[00:09] <preaction_> there are a couple known issues with 7.10, none related to DVD playback
[00:09] <jburd> nonix4: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[00:09] <ader10> soundray: I'm having the hardest time figuring out what you mean
[00:09] <ader10> soundray: Let's start from the beginning
[00:09] <colourAgga> jimmygoon: the problem is you can't repair the cable and  you almost never can buy a loose cable
[00:09] <jrib> rbrevoort: because people have given you answers but you refuse to accept them
[00:09] <elusive> u guys on ubuntu using mirc?
[00:09] <nonix4> jburd: yeah thought I had it but guess missed it in upgrades on this 'puter
[00:09] <colourAgga> so you have to hope it's just loose
[00:09] <jimmygoon> pike_ I just went through hell and back to get them to fix the AC adapter .... I shipped it to them and they replaced the system board and didn't fix my AC cord.... They conceded to just mail me a new adapter but I was told that it was the "last business toshiba would do with me on this computer" :P
[00:09] <rbrevoort> is 7.04 more stable?
[00:09] <colourAgga> elusive: no, bitchx
[00:09] <Palintheus> elusive: I use irssi
[00:09] <soundray> ader10: you have to have some numbers from which to create a chart.
[00:09] <jimmygoon> colourAgga, :S
[00:09] <pike_> elusive: xchat or konversation or pidgin or irssi in terminal
[00:09] <jimmygoon> ugh
[00:10] <colourAgga> those cables are melted together or something, it's a hell
[00:10] <jimmygoon> (maybe I'll just ignore it hum)
[00:10] <Paddy_EIRE> rbrevoort, we have already provided you with several plain english guides on how to play dvds but you have been unwilling to read them... I am now putting you on /ignore I'd assume many others will do the same!
[00:10] <colourAgga> but that's the way they make money
[00:10] <Paddy_EIRE> !attitude | rbrevoort
[00:10] <ubotu> rbrevoort: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[00:10] <rbrevoort> it's not about the dvd
[00:10] <jrib> rbrevoort: so what issue are you having?
[00:10] <queeneli> kuti             khala
[00:10] <rbrevoort> which is better 7.04 or 7.10
[00:10] <rbrevoort> jrib'
[00:10] <Paddy_EIRE> !offtopic | rbrevoort
[00:10] <ubotu> rbrevoort: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:11] <jrib> rbrevoort: whichever one is better for *you*
[00:11] <pike_> jimmygoon: have your lawer call em. im not litigious but i wouldnt put up with that at all
[00:11] <rbrevoort> unable to add/remove software
[00:11] <nareshov> 7.04 was released in April? and 7.10 last month - you choose
[00:11] <colourAgga> mmm this is strange, my screen notifies me of activity in screen 2, i switch, and nothing is there
[00:11] <colourAgga> :X
[00:11] <ader10> soundray: :D Thanks, I figured it out from that last statement
[00:11] <ader10> soundray: Thanks again!
[00:11] <golemz> how can i play mp3 files that are avail via a smb share, not on the local system?
[00:11] <elusive> can someone message me to answer questions about ubuntu?
[00:11] <Fragmatic> Good evening :)
[00:11] <jrib> !pm | elusive
[00:11] <ubotu> elusive: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[00:11] <mneptok> elusive: please just ask on-channel
[00:11] <colourAgga> elusive: you could also ask here
[00:11] <dosnubbie> AmQx81
[00:11] <BlueRider> pike_:  heh, kill gdm did work, but it brought me in the text mode window you get by pressing alt ctr backspace, and from there i didn't know what to do.
[00:11] <Fragmatic> (or morning, considering its past midnight)
[00:11] <jimmygoon> pike_ mmmm... I guess. Maybe I just being a pushover since I got a free 3 year warranty based off a class action lawsuit that was for something with the speakers or something
[00:12] <Slash> hi mens
[00:12] <soundray> ader10: glad you worked it out
[00:12] <elusive> o ok
[00:12] <DUSURP> can someone help me with some vb code?
[00:12] <DUSURP> it should be easy
[00:12] <Fragmatic> Sorry to bug you guys, but I have a question - I just got me an ASUS eeepc and I'd like to install ubuntu, but alas, I don't have a USB CD Drive, is there any way to install it from a pendrive?
[00:12] <rbrevoort> dunno
[00:12] <Slash> the kxdocker work in ubuntu or only in kubuntu... :s
[00:12] <rbrevoort> dusurb
[00:12] <jrib> DUSURP: not here, look for a vb channel or try ##programming maybe
[00:12] <Paddy_EIRE> DUSURP, this is a ubuntu support channel
[00:13] <pike_> BlueRider: i dont know what youre are doing i was just trying to kill x :)  what are you trying to do?
[00:13] <rbrevoort> think so
[00:13] <Palintheus> !enter | rbrevoort
[00:13] <ubotu> rbrevoort: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:13] <golemz> yeah, so, can anybody see this text? just checking, not being sarcastic
[00:13] <NightDragon> hello?
[00:13] <NightDragon> i ran envy
[00:13] <elusive> i have a ati x1600 video card where can i get drivers for it for ubunutu
[00:13] <NightDragon> and it didnt work
[00:13] <Palintheus> golemz: yes
[00:13] <Paddy_EIRE> DUSURP, you could also ask in ##windows perhaps they know of a specific channel for VB.
[00:13] <golemz> ok thanks ;-P
[00:13] <arghh2d2> ten four golemz
[00:13] <colourAgga> elusive: you could use the proprietary drivers or the OSS
[00:13] <soundray> NightDragon: congratulations, you have probably wrecked your system now
[00:14] <Luigi> Is there a more... lively programming channel than ##programming? Anyone know?
[00:14] <elusive> but my movies look messed up
[00:14] <mechung> anyone here ever used quanta plus with apache?
[00:14] <jrib> Luigi: the channel for your language
[00:14] <presto101> im trying to install 7.10 and im getting a input output error 7.04 works ok and other distros do as well does anyone know about this issue
[00:14] <NightDragon> lol
[00:14] <pike_> jimmygoon: unless you have a spare lappy for parts i wouldnt be optimistic about fixing it. i guess something may just be loose but unless you are exp working on laptops im not sure i would
[00:14] <Paddy_EIRE> !envy | NightDragon
[00:14] <preaction_> Luigi, there are channels for just about every language
[00:14] <ubotu> NightDragon: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[00:14] <colourAgga> elusive: what do you mean 'messed up' :)
[00:14] <Luigi> jrib: I'm looking for a language ;-)
[00:14] <BlueRider> i want to install nvidia drivers but when i do it, i get that message. i don't really have an idea how i was supposed to install them with no visual context running, but ..
[00:14] <NightDragon> no it just says its not supported
[00:14] <Slash> the kxdocker work in ubuntu or only in kubuntu... :s
[00:14] <rbrevoort> dunno 7.10 is better presto
[00:14] <pike_> Luigi: there are language specific channels
[00:14] <jrib> Luigi: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:14] <elusive> like the color of the character in the movie skin is blue
[00:14] <elusive> n leaves are white
[00:14] <Luigi> OK
[00:15] <colourAgga> elusive: i think it's a codec issue or else all colors would be messy
[00:15] <pike_> Luigi: what lang?
[00:15] <rbrevoort> i'm having problems with 7.10 as well
[00:15] <NightDragon> who talked to me before?
[00:15] <elusive> o ok u guys are all on ubuntu right now?
[00:15] <NightDragon> someone was helping me
[00:15] <NightDragon> lol
[00:15] <colourAgga> elusive: i am
[00:15] <NightDragon> but no envy just gave an error
[00:15] <Luigi> pike_ : I'm trying to choose between C, C++ and Python.
[00:15] <soundray> NightDragon: I warned you, but you chose to ignore me
[00:15] <NightDragon> what do i do now?
[00:15] <soundray> NightDragon: reinstall
[00:15] <colourAgga> Luigi: pick python
[00:15] <jrib> Luigi: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[00:15] <elusive> wat irc client can i use for ubuntu
[00:15] <pike_> Luigi: yeah /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:15] <kode> elusive: xchat
[00:15] <Luigi> pike_ : Each has advantages, each is quite popular.
[00:16] <NightDragon> reinstall ubuntu
[00:16] <RedBand> does anyone know how to get foxytunes working with amarok?
[00:16] <NightDragon> ?
[00:16] <soundray> NightDragon: yes
[00:16] <elusive> thnx  im going to download it n instal ubunutu again
[00:16] <elusive> thnx guys
[00:16] <Fragmatic> nevermind, found it :)
[00:16] <Fragmatic> Time to play with the eee :D
[00:16] <NightDragon> why? thats dumb... it didnt actually *do* anything to my system
[00:16] <NightDragon> ENVY ERROR: Envy does not recognise your card as compatible with any version of the driver.this might happen because either your card is not supported by the driver or Envy's hardwaredetection failed. You can try the manual installation at your risk.
[00:16] <NightDragon> thats the error
[00:16] <jrib> !envy | NightDragon
[00:16] <ubotu> NightDragon: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[00:17] <elusive> question again can u use limewire on ubuntu?
[00:17] <Paddy_EIRE> so NightDragon whats the problem...
[00:17] <jimmygoon> pike_ hm, ok, well thanks for your advice :)
[00:17] <rbrevoort> can't install vlc??
[00:17] <colourAgga> elusive: no but you have alternatives which use the same network
[00:17] <elusive> like?
[00:17] <soundray> NightDragon: maybe you've been lucky then
[00:17] <colourAgga> amule
[00:17] <Paddy_EIRE> NightDragon, we wont support you using envy
[00:17] <NightDragon> but the problem is my ati drivers arent listed in restricted manager
[00:17] <colourAgga> amongst others
[00:17] <jrib> rbrevoort: have you enabled the universe repository?
[00:17] <rbrevoort> what?
[00:17] <jrib> !who | rbrevoort
[00:17] <ubotu> rbrevoort: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[00:17] <elusive> what can i use on ubuntu to download music besides limewire
[00:18] <jrib> rbrevoort: go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources  and ensure that you have enabled Universe
[00:18] <colourAgga> elusive: torrents, peer to peer, newsgroups, ftp?
[00:18] <colourAgga> all
[00:18] <Paddy_EIRE> !piracy | elusive
[00:18] <ubotu> elusive: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[00:18] <NightDragon> sorry guys
[00:18] <jrib> !universe > rbevoort (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:18] <golemz> doh, i forgot to add any gstreamer multimedia plugins
[00:18] <NightDragon> doing like 5 things at once
[00:18] <elusive> thnx
[00:18] <colourAgga> There are a lot off downloading tools.
[00:18] <elusive> cya
[00:18] <nckslln> preaction: (or anyone else) I had a look through my log files the boot log files hadn't been modifyed for ages, but in the /var/log/auth.log I find a line saying "pam_nologin(gdm:auth): cannot determine username" from just about the time it started not getting to the login screen... it doesn't appear before there and appears plenty of times after with loads of lines saying "last message repeated 52 times" etc. any idea?
[00:18] <Slash> work the kxdock in ubuntu...? can any say me this please? (sorry about my english)
[00:18] <NightDragon> but yeah... i dont see any ATI drivers in restricted drivers manager
[00:18] <Paddy_EIRE> colourAgga, try not to discuss illegal activities in here
[00:18] <Quinthomas> Odd that frost wire does not seem to load with ubuntu
[00:18] <jrib> !ati > NightDragon (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Quinthomas, have you installed the Java Runtime
[00:19] <NightDragon> thanks, jrib
[00:19] <RabidWeezle> how do I get a root terminal up?
[00:19] <colourAgga> Paddy_EIRE: p2p, torrents and newsgroups don't need to be used for illegal activities and in my country it is legal to download any music/movie but i can see where you are going ;)
[00:19] <jrib> !sudo > rabidweezle (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:19] <Quinthomas> No, I have not...
[00:19] <Quinthomas> Thank you though.
[00:19] <colourAgga> RabidWeezle: in a terminal do "sudo bash"
[00:19] <colourAgga> or something like that.
[00:19] <RabidWeezle> thanks
[00:19] <NightDragon> hey guys
[00:19] <mechung> anyone here ever used quanta plus?
[00:19] <preaction_> why do "sudo bash" when you can do "sudo -i"?
[00:19] <NightDragon> my video cared is "M7"
[00:20] <RabidWeezle> wasn't looking to sudo every command hehe
[00:20] <NightDragon> just to let you know
[00:20] <soundray> RabidWeezle: that's not recommended -- sudo -i is better
[00:20] <jrib> colourAgga, RabidWeezle: sudo -i  is preferred if you really need it
[00:20] <nareshov> sudo -s
[00:20] <Quinthomas> -idle to install runtime..
[00:20] <RabidWeezle> I do according to this wiki
[00:20] <soundray> colourAgga: with sudo bash, you get mixed environment variables. Please don't recommend it.
[00:20] <RabidWeezle> setting up internet connection sharing and it says NOT SUDO use a root terminal
[00:20] <preaction_> nareshov, sudo -s doesn't load root's profile (it's the difference between sudo su and sudo su -)
[00:21] <colourAgga> okay didn't know that, i always use su -
[00:21] <Intelligitimate> My evolution mail is messed up.
[00:21] <Intelligitimate> It won't display properly.
[00:21] <Paddy_EIRE> Intelligitimate, explain?
[00:21] <RabidWeezle> forgot about su, thanks
[00:21] <DRtuxthepenguin> !guidelines
[00:21] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[00:21] <NightDragon> oops... m6 i meant
[00:22] <Dirtbag> Hi all, whats the best wireless software to use in 7.10? gnome network manager is very inconsistent. i have an internal intel
[00:22] <Intelligitimate> Paddy_EIRE, you can't see anything. It's like frozen or something.
[00:22] <digitori__> Slash: look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566794
[00:22] <Paddy_EIRE> Intelligitimate, 1 sec
[00:24] <Netham45> !ubuntu
[00:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[00:24] <BlueRider> pike_: what was that first command again, please? (to stop X server, not kill)
[00:24] <BlueRider> i'll write it down now :P
[00:24] <retour> how to pass parameters to kernel for the type of boot I need. My old BIOS has old ACPI so I have to  set it ACPI=FORCE
[00:24] <golemz> i love how the volume keys on my ancient apple pro keyboard just work :)
[00:25] <stefg> !boot | retour
[00:25] <ubotu> retour: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[00:26] <bill> hello.   could somebody help me with the installiation of 'aMSN'?  i have installed aMSN, just now when i press signin it tells me to get TLS ? how do i install that ?
[00:26] <Intelligitimate> Paddy_EIRE, would reinstalling via Synaptic require me to put in all my settings again and/or erase my messages?
[00:27] <underwatercow> Is there a reason that my numpad randomly stops working until I re-login? Didn't ever do this in Feisty...
[00:27] <retour> stefg: thank you!
[00:28] <bill> ?
[00:28] <rbrevoort> when i installed ubuntu it comes up with a message about security update?
[00:28] <arghh2d2> Question: My cd burner reads but doesnt write...is there maybe a way to update the driver?
[00:28] <queeneli> am i wasting bandwidth by joining too many channels especially big ones because texts takes up KB. over night 2 2 -  7 days can add up to GB of bandwidth which easily could be avoided if closed most channels
[00:29] <Nemes> Is it true that I could configure my own hotkeys (Ctrl + Alt + <letter>)? If it's so, how?
[00:29] <IMORB> yes u can do it
[00:29] <soundray> Nemes: System-Preferences-Keyboard shortcuts
[00:29] <rbrevoort> why am i getting a message during installation?
[00:29] <Nemes> soundray, thanks
[00:30] <arghh2d2> where are my carkeys?
[00:30] <bill> i took them
[00:30] <stefg> Nemes: http://www.nongnu.org/xhotkeys/ is the most simple solution imho
[00:30] <IdleOne> arghh2d2: locate keys should find them
[00:30] <arghh2d2> heheh
[00:30] <jrib> rbrevoort: tell us the message you get and what you are installing.  Use paste.ubuntu-nl.org.  Do not paste in the channel
[00:31] <rbrevoort> jrib: just a security message and i shuold look into it
[00:31] <Nemes> stefg, thanks!
[00:31] <digitori__> rbrevoort where in the install are you getting this message?
[00:31] <digitori__> whats the message
[00:31] <Slokunshialgo> Does anybody know why Eclipse (with CDT plugin) can't recognize ncurses functions?
[00:31] <bill> could anybody help me with the installation of aMSN >?
[00:31] <rbrevoort> digitori_: around 80% installled
[00:31] <digitori__> whats the message say?
[00:32] <queeneli> am i wasting bandwidth by joining too many channels especially big ones because texts takes up KB. over night 2 2 -  7 days can add up to GB of bandwidth which easily could be avoided if closed most channels
[00:32] <rbrevoort> digitori_: i shuold look into updates of security or something
[00:32] <IdleOne> bill: sudo apt-get install amsn
[00:32] <arghh2d2> Ok, next question, should i assume my cd burner is faulty because it doesnt write, even tho it reads?  or should i try a new driver or tweak it somehow?
[00:32] <jrib> queeneli: you are using bandwidth of course, whether they are a waste or not depends on you
[00:33] <IdleOne> queeneli: do you have a limit?
[00:33] <rbrevoort> queeneli: lol
[00:33] <digitori__> well once you have installed you immediately get the chance to install update and security updates
[00:33] <Sulo_Seppa> Is there a Finnish channel for ubuntu?
[00:33] <stefg> !fi
[00:33] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
 yes only 60 gb
[00:33] <Paddy_EIRE_> queeneli, lots
[00:33] <rbrevoort> digitori_: i'm unable to update my system
[00:33] <IdleOne> queeneli: then it is up to you what you want to keep open I guess
[00:33] <apo`_> Anybody here who has a Jabber IM with OTR capabilities? I wanna do a quick test before going to bed
[00:34] <Paddy_EIRE_> queeneli, I would not worry about irc text lol
[00:34] <stefg> although the unofficial finnish channel is #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:34] <jimjam> Anyone know why my wireless connection will disable my ethernet connection? Specifically, eth0 disables when I plug my computer back in to the wall port.
[00:34] <IMORB> what does it say rbrevroot
[00:34] <rbrevoort> imorb: i shuold look into updating my system once it installed
[00:34] <Paddy_EIRE_> queeneli, is that 60gb per month?? and just how many channels do you have open?
[00:35] <queeneli> Paddy_EIRE how much bandwidth do you think i waste if i leave channel open like #ubuntu over 2 days?
[00:35] <Paddy_EIRE_> queeneli, I wouldnt worry about it
[00:35] <stefg> !logs
[00:35] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[00:35] <NightDragon> Ok... so is it a little less hectic in here? :)
[00:35] <queeneli> Paddy_EIRE 5 channels
[00:35] <digitori__> rbrevoort: have you tried opening a terminal and typing "sudo apt-get update"
[00:35] <NightDragon> When someone has time to help, I need help enabling 3d acceleration on my Raedon M6 LY.
[00:36] <IdleOne> queeneli: I have 17 channels on 3 networks
[00:36] <Paddy_EIRE_> queeneli, clear your mind of worry...lol
[00:36] <rbrevoort> digitori_: ok will do
[00:36] <clay__> how do i make apps e.g. epiphany use dmix instead of trying to directly access the sound card?
[00:36] <pike_> BlueRider: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[00:36] <clay__> my asound config file already says that it is the default.
[00:36] <BlueRider> thanks
[00:37] <BlueRider> i found the open drivers, they seem to work at changing refresh rate :)
[00:37] <rbrevoort> digitori_: just done that
[00:37] <digitori__> rbrevoort: i take it youve tried You can also star GUI tool by Clicking System > Administration > Update Manager
[00:37] <rbrevoort> yes
[00:37] <queeneli> Paddy_EIRE ok i'll do that, do i still waste fat bandwidth and computer electro power (green) for the ping pong?
[00:38] <rbrevoort> digitori_: my comp have just been installed
[00:38] <kurisutofuaa> Does anyone know if a Palm Pilot T|X handheld works with 7.10?
[00:38] <digitori__> well if you are not getting the gui popping up to check your system or nothing is updating when you are using the commandline, looks like youll need to re-install....im puzzled.
[00:39] <fribuntu> Hi all
[00:39] <Paddy_EIRE_> rbrevoort, have you tried using mplayer?
[00:39] <rbrevoort> digitori_: shuold i reinstall with an internet connection on or off?
[00:39] <Paddy_EIRE_> nevermind
[00:39] <digitori__> rbrevoort: the pdate manager should work imeddiately
[00:39] <buttercups> NightDragon, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246746, fglrx is unsupported with that card
[00:39] <digitori__> update manager
[00:40] <fribuntu> I have a question about ubuntu 7.10 on a thinkpad laptop. When I set the brightness with the up/down keys, it seems to work fine.
[00:40] <NightDragon> whats fglrx
[00:40] <Dirtbag> Anyone using a wireless connections?
[00:40] <fribuntu> But after a minute or so, it resets to full brightness.
[00:40] <Paddy_EIRE_> !anyone | Dirtbag
[00:40] <ubotu> Dirtbag: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[00:40] <rbrevoort> digitori_: it's weird aye for some reason this comp doesn't update itself?
[00:40] <fribuntu> Can anyone tell me where to set brightness in a more permanent way?
[00:41] <digitori__> if its only been installed within the past couple days you should still have been asked if you want to update by the comp
[00:41] <Paddy_EIRE_> !who | digitori__
[00:41] <ubotu> digitori__: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[00:41] <rbrevoort> digitori_: yeah i know ubuntu got an auto update feature as well right?
[00:42] <digitori__> rbrevoort: yes
[00:42] <stefg> !update
[00:42] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[00:42] <stefg> bah
[00:42] <digitori__> rbrevoort: what distro of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:42] <buttercups> NightDragon, Thats why envy didn't work for you, fglrx is the ATI proprietary driver
[00:42] <rbrevoort> digitori: 7.10
[00:42] <rbrevoort> gutsy i think
[00:42] <digitori__> rbrevoort: ah ok the latest
[00:43] <rbrevoort> yes
[00:43] <digitori__> rbrevoort: when you run the update manager do you get the update manager gui popping up
[00:43] <rbrevoort> digitori: hold on i'll try it right now
[00:44] <niuq> how can i modify my touchpad properties?
[00:44] <NightDragon> buttercups: Aaah. Same driver your going to find gonig through amd.com (ATI website)?
[00:44] <buttercups> NightDragon, yes
[00:44] <Paddy_EIRE> !synaptics | niuq
[00:44] <ubotu> niuq: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[00:44] <Intelligitimate> Evolution is broke.
[00:45] <rbrevoort> digitori_: it's coming up with a gui pop up now
[00:45] <Paddy_EIRE> Intelligitimate, did you do what I told you?
[00:45] <rbrevoort> digitori_: this happened after i enabled universe
[00:45] <digitori__> rbrevoort: you should see a button on there to check system...click it
[00:45] <NightDragon> good, i missed that landmine. So what should i do to get 3d accell (and homefully beryl/compiz-fusion) running on my machine, buttercups?
[00:45] <Intelligitimate> I didn't see what yoiu told me to do.
[00:45] <rbrevoort> digitori_: it says that i don't have any update? is this correct?
[00:45] <gordboy> quick plug. gutsy .deb & source tarball of xspect spectral analyzer for ALSA sound under Linux - http://sourceforge.net/projects/xspect/
[00:46] <gordboy> anyone wants to get involved in development pm me. thanks
[00:46] <digitori__> rbrevoort: thats correct no updates are needed for your system at this time.
[00:46] <t0dk0n> is there any other visual effect engines for rhythmbox/totem besides Goom and Monoscope?
[00:46] <Intelligitimate> Paddy_EIRE, I don't see where you told me to do anything.
[00:46] <rbrevoort> digitori_: now i'm trying to install vlc but i have a conflict what do i do?
[00:47] <Paddy_EIRE> Intelligitimate, open a terminal and type 'killall evolution' then type evolution and notify me of any errors that come up...
[00:47] <digitori__> rbrevoort: if you wish  to run the update manager regular it will tell you when updates are ready. Although the system should notify you auto.
[00:47] <Paddy_EIRE> Intelligitimate, I did already you must not have been paying attention
[00:47] <rbrevoort> digitori_: by default it's auto?
[00:47] <arang2> guys fast what do i install to be able to open rar, zip 7z files with file roller?
[00:47] <stefg> !rar
[00:47] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[00:48] <digitori__> rbrevoort: yes it should be auto by default
[00:48] <Intelligitimate> (evolution-2.6:6153): evolution-mail-WARNING **: ignored this junk plugin: not enabled or we have already loaded one
[00:48] <digitori__> rbrevoort: vlc one momnet
[00:48] <rabidweezle> woot, I got internet connection sharing working ahaha
[00:48] <Intelligitimate> (evolution-2.6:6153): e-utils-WARNING **: Plugin 'Bogofilter junk plugin' failed to load hook 'org.gnome.evolution.mail.junk:1.0'
[00:48] <t0dk0n> !info unrar-free
[00:48] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20070515-1 (gutsy), package size 40 kB, installed size 124 kB
[00:48] <Intelligitimate> (evolution-2.6:6153): camel-WARNING **: camel_exception_get_id called with NULL parameter.
[00:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Intelligitimate, what is evolution itself doing... has it crashed
[00:48] <Intelligitimate> It just hangs, doesn't display anything.
[00:48] <digitori__> rbrevoort: whats your conflict when installing vlc?
[00:48] <t0dk0n> !info visualization
[00:48] <ubotu> Package visualization does not exist in gutsy
[00:48] <buttercups> NightDragon, follow that link I gave you, its specific for your card to get 3D Acceleration working, I am not sure about compiz
[00:49] <rabidweezle> ok, what's that command to set video modes x uses? it was like dpkg reconfigure <something>
[00:49] <rbrevoort> digitori_: ok will try again and tell you soon one minute
[00:49] <Paddy_EIRE> what had you been doing before this started happening Intelligitimate
[00:49] <Intelligitimate> Nothing.
[00:49] <stefg> !fixres | rabidweezle
[00:49] <ubotu> rabidweezle: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[00:49] <digitori__> rbrevoort: are you installing via comman line or via synaptic?
[00:49] <fribuntu> Rabiddog: check in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. It says in the comments at the top.
[00:50] <NightDragon> buttercups: okay, i'm reading... but i have feisty, and it gives instructions specifically for edgy and dapper. should i still follow it? (Link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246746)
[00:50] <fribuntu> rabidweezle:  check in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. It says in the comments at the top.
[00:50] <fribuntu> Rabiddog: sorry, wrong "tab" extension :)
[00:50] <rbrevoort> digitori_: i'm not sure
[00:50] <rbrevoort> digitori_: can't understand you sorry
[00:51] <Intelligitimate> How do I backup email from evolution? I'll just compile the newest release.
[00:51] <digitori__> rbrevoort: run synaptic package manager
[00:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Intelligitimate, 1 sec
[00:51] <robert_> how do I run x apps in a 32-bit chroot?
[00:51] <rbrevoort> digitori: don't know that but here is the msg: Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict.
[00:52] <digitori__> rbrevoort: ok youl find synaptic under system
[00:52] <rbrevoort> digitori_: where is synaptic
[00:53] <rbrevoort> digitori_: found the manager .. now what?
[00:53] <buttercups> NightDragon, yes, If you run into any problems you can always reconfigure your xserver, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:53] <digitori__> rbrevoort open the synaptic manager
[00:53] <rbrevoort> done that
[00:54] <jimmygoon> Operation Laptop-LCD repair was a success :) pike_ it was just a loose cable in the back yay!
[00:54] <digitori__> rbrevoort: once manager is running click search button type in vlc into pop up window
[00:54] <rbrevoort> digitori_: ok brb
[00:54] <eko_hermiyanto> hi
[00:55] <eko_hermiyanto> good morning guys... I have a little problem with .sit file
[00:55] <eko_hermiyanto> how to open it in ubuntu?
[00:55] <eko_hermiyanto> I have tried to search the web and only able to find proprietary software to open it
[00:55] <rbrevoort> digitori_: done that
[00:55] <kelvie> what's the name of hte package that holds the proprietary nvidia drivers?
[00:55] <eko_hermiyanto> is there one from repository which able to open the file?
[00:55] <mike503> is there any way to stop "update-grub" from changing my root= line to a UUID every time?
[00:55] <digitori__> rbrevoort: ok hit search button on pop up
[00:55] <jimmygoon> eko_hermiyanto, what is the file type? like... what is a "sit" file?
[00:55] <eko_hermiyanto> xarchive and file-roller seems do not capable to open the file
[00:56] <crdlb> kelvie: nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-new, or nvidia-glx-legacy
[00:56] <crdlb> depending on which card you have
[00:56] <eko_hermiyanto> jimmygoon, it's just an archive file, just like tar but different
[00:56] <mike503> oops. i think i figured it out
[00:56] <rbrevoort> digitori_: just finished searching for vlc
[00:56] <digitori__> rbrevoort: you will now see a list of everything containing vlc scrol down to vlc
[00:56] <rbrevoort> digitori_: ok
[00:57] <digitori__> rbrevoort: click the box next to vlc to select it
[00:57] <jburd> eko_hermiyanto: Get the file into a Mac, convert it to another format like zip or tar.gz or tar.bz2 and get it back on your linux machine.
[00:57] <m_tadeu> hi everyone
[00:57] <harry_> I'd like to watch bionic woman online at nbc.com but the current movie player will not allow a full screen view like the bill gates revenge system does....  Any Ideas on what I can use to watch full screen
[00:57] <jburd> AFAIK, SIT is a proprietary format.
[00:57] <jburd> And only stupid Mac users use it.
[00:57] <rbrevoort> digitori_: now do i tick vlc?
[00:57] <harry_> kubuntu'
[00:57] <m_tadeu> is there a similar program to ksubtitleripper?
[00:57] <eko_hermiyanto> jburd, then, there is no other way to do that in ubuntu?
[00:57] <digitori__> rbrevoort click the box beside it and then click mark for installationon the pop up click
[00:58] <jburd> eko_hermiyanto: There might not be.  You may need to do it on Windows or OS X.
[00:58] <_ebirtaid> digitori: you are very patient ;p
[00:58] <eko_hermiyanto> jburd, ohh ok. thanks dude
[00:58] <jburd> eko_hermiyanto: Avoid using .sit files.
[00:58] <rbrevoort> digitori_: can't mark all files
[00:58] <digitori__> rbrevoort: now click the button called mark
[00:59] <eko_hermiyanto> jburd, well, I actually get the file from my friend. it's the first time I know that kind of file
[00:59] <martii> anyone using pure-ftpd with TLS enabled?
[00:59] <jburd> eko_hermiyanto: Macs can easily produce zip files.  Ask your friend to send you a zip file instead.
[00:59] <digitori__> _erbitaid: patience was taught to me.
[00:59] <rbrevoort> digitori_: vlc:
[00:59] <rbrevoort>  Depends: vlc-nox but it is not going to be installed
[00:59] <rbrevoort>  Depends: libsdl-image1.2 (>=1.2.5) but it is not installable
[00:59] <rbrevoort>  Depends: ttf-dejavu  but it is not installable
[01:00] <_ebirtaid> rbrevoort: do you have all reporotories enabled?
[01:00] <Gin> I tried to install gimpshop, but the interface is nothing like photoshop and instead it's the same as  before
[01:00] <_ebirtaid> except spelled right
[01:00] <choudesh> Hello all.
[01:00] <Gin> just like gimp
[01:00] <rbrevoort> _ebirtaid: dunno what's that?
[01:00] <kode> hello choudesh
[01:00] <digitori__> _ebirtaid: i forgot about those repos
[01:00] <_ebirtaid> gin: did you run gimp or gimpshop?
[01:00] <Gin> _ebirtaid, the command gimpshop does not exist
[01:00] <taz> hello to alll
[01:00] <Phydoux> How would I mount a thumb drive?
[01:00] <rbrevoort> sup?
[01:00] <choudesh> Tough question - even stumps myself; what is a good program to monitor hard drive usage? (Non-graphical, CLI only)
[01:01] <harry_> can someone recomend a player that will allow me to watch online tv episodes in FULL screen
[01:01] <_ebirtaid> rbrevoort:  you need to go to edit then repostories I thuink?  enable universe and you should be cool
[01:01] <_ebirtaid> maybe multiverse also
[01:01] <digitori__> _erbitaid: do you wanna show rbrevoort how to install the repos or shall I?
[01:01] <_ebirtaid> digi:  I am kind of drunk you may be better equipped
[01:01] <jimjam> Anyone know how I can edit the Places menu? I have a few folders that I'd like easy access to.
[01:01] <taz> do u know about remote assistance do it have ???
[01:01] <_ebirtaid> ;)
[01:01] <digitori__> lol
[01:01] <rbrevoort> _ebirtaid: what do i do?? or digitori_: what do i do??
[01:02] <digitori__> rbrevoort: go to settings on synaptic...top of program gui
[01:02] <rbrevoort> ok
[01:02] <digitori__> rbrevoort: click it then click repositories
[01:02] <kode> tough one if not graphical choudesh
[01:03] <jburd> jimjam: Drag and drop directories to the panel below your places panel in Nautilus or add bookmarks.
[01:03] <Phydoux> Can someone tell me how to mount a thumb drive? For some reason I have to do a manual mount as root.
[01:03] <choudesh> kode: I know. Think a dev would know some tricks - but I am all out of tools. ;-)
[01:03] <rbrevoort> digitori_: ok .. what should i do now?
[01:03] <digitori__> rbrevoort on first tab youll see five boxes make sure first four are selected
[01:03] <_ebirtaid> phydoux:  mount -t auto /dev/whatever /mountpoint
[01:03] <taz> i try to find where is remote assistance and how it work ? please any one know about ???
[01:04] <_ebirtaid> taz what is remote assistance
[01:04] <Phydoux> Thats what I need the "whatever" part...
[01:04] <jburd> taz: System > Preferences > Remote Desktop
[01:04] <_ebirtaid> phydoux: after you plug it in type dmesg it will tell you what the device name is
[01:04] <broken> Got a question, for "ubuntu studio" is it possible I can grab it in CD image size as opposed to DVDs?
[01:04] <taz> i can enter to other computer..
[01:04] <jburd> taz: If you'd like to connect to another computer that is running the server, use Applications > Internet > Terminal Server Client.
[01:04] <blahblahx> Okay so I've remastered Ubuntu Gutsy (started with the minimal install, built up on it using gnome-core and other apps). The livecd works great, has all the programs I want on it.
[01:04] <blahblahx> When I fire up ubiquity, it can go through the install steps perfectly, but when I click the big ol install button, it starts installing things I didn't have on my livecd like openoffice, language packs, etc...
[01:04] <cake4567> can I transfer my firefox passwords from vista to ubuntu's firefox?
[01:04] <blahblahx> Why is ubiquity doing this? Shouldn't it just copy over the contents of my livecd onto the HD?
[01:04] <blahblahx> If I need to edit some files to make ubiquity only install the apps on my hd, then where do I find those? Is there a script I can use to let ubiquity know to only install the apps on my cd?
[01:05] <rbrevoort> digitori_: it's installing now :)
[01:05] <digitori__> rbrevoort: click the next tab "Third Party Software"
[01:05] <digitori__> rbrevoort:cool
[01:05] <jimjam> jburd: Took me a while to figure out what you meant, but it worked!
[01:05] <taz> jburd yes that one
[01:05] <jburd> jimjam: It's easier than Windows.  :-)
[01:05] <ryanakca> How can I connect to a SSL NNTP server with the 'tin' newsreader?
[01:05] <rbrevoort> digitori_: wil tell you how i go brb
[01:06] <cake4567> can I transfer my firefox passwords from vista to ubuntu's firefox?
[01:06] <jimjam> jburd: Honestly! Now do you know how I can edit the icon?
[01:06] <RagingBull> i had to pass a few thing to the kernel when i installed 7.04 how do i edit those settings now that the system is already installed
[01:06] <jburd> Do you mean Emblem?
[01:06] <digitori__> rbrevoort: its worthwhile going back to the rpositories and installing "partner" and "free none free from the Third Party Software tab
[01:06] <blahblahx> Okay so I've remastered Ubuntu Gutsy (started with the minimal install, built up on it using gnome-core and other apps). The livecd works great, has all the programs I want on it.
[01:06] <blahblahx> When I fire up ubiquity, it can go through the install steps perfectly, but when I click the big ol install button, it starts installing things I didn't have on my livecd like openoffice, language packs, etc...
[01:06] <blahblahx> Why is ubiquity doing this? Shouldn't it just copy over the contents of my livecd onto the HD?
[01:06] <blahblahx> If I need to edit some files to make ubiquity only install the apps on my hd, then where do I find those? Is there a script I can use to let ubiquity know to only install the apps on my cd?
[01:06] <jimjam> jburd: No, not the emblem. If you go to the properties page, you can change the actual icon
[01:06] <digitori__> rbrevoort dont tick the source boxes at this time
[01:06] <jimjam> !tab I just want it to be a drive, not a folder icon
[01:07] <digitori__> rbrevoort: enjoy vlc
[01:07] <jimjam> jburd:  I just want it to be a drive, not a folder icon
[01:07] <taz> jburd  please explain it me how it work
[01:07] <Mo9a7i> Hello guyz
[01:07] <broken> If have an Core 2 Duo do I grab the amd64 cd?
[01:07] <clay__> anyone know how to get europea (eclipse) for ubuntu?
[01:07] <jburd> Ah, I'm afraid you couldn't do that for individual directories like on Windows.
[01:07] <cake4567> if I hit alt f2....how do I end a prog?
[01:07] <oxeimon> anyone know how to do a condition macro in a makefile?
[01:07] <jburd> You'll need to use an emblem.
[01:07] <_ebirtaid> broken: believe so
[01:07] <lix> broken: intel core2?
[01:07] <jburd> Just add an emblem if one doesn't exist to satisfy your needs.  :-)
[01:08] <_ebirtaid> lix is there another kind? :D
[01:08] <jimjam> Does anyone know where the icons for folders/drives/etc. are stored?
[01:08] <broken> lix: yessir
[01:08] <Chris33> broken, how much ram u have?
[01:08] <Mo9a7i> i'm a new ubuntu user , what's the way that i can switch between workplaces with that cubic view in the commercials ?
[01:08] <broken> 2GB
[01:08] <docenergy> does cdrecord need options can i cdrecord /file /dev/device?
[01:08] <Gin> how can I remove the gimp package without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[01:08] <Chris33> yer better of 32 bit. less hassle.
[01:08] <lix> broken: i've got intel core2 as well. i used xte ix86 CD
[01:08] <Phydoux> It sees it as a SCSI device? "scsi 3:0:0:0: Direct-Access     KINGSTON DATA TRAVELER    1.11 PQ: 0 ANSI: 1 CCS"
[01:08] <kode> Mo9a7i: That's compiz
[01:08] <jburd> taz: Someone else running a VNC server can let you connect to their machine.  However, you need a client to connect to them.  Terminal Server Client lets you do exactly that.  Just type in their IP address, choose the protocol of their server, add authentication information if necessarry and click Connect.
[01:08] <broken> Why should ram have anything to do witht he matter.
[01:09] <Mo9a7i> how do i get it kode
[01:09] <Gin> how can I remove the gimp package without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[01:09] <_ebirtaid> phydoux:  most hdd's are viewed as dsx for some reason\
[01:09] <_ebirtaid> sdx*
[01:09] <rbrevoort> digitori_: thanks a lot for that you're a god !!! now i can add and remove software !!! :)
[01:09] <lix> broken: amd64 is for AMD-64 bit processors not for intel coreX
[01:09] <Chris33> if u have more than 4GB, 64bit makes more sense. At 2GB, it doesn't matter
[01:09] <jburd> Gin:  Why do you want to remove the GIMP package?  ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, removing it does no harm.
[01:09] <pipegeek> Mo9a7i: you already have it installed, but to configure it, you need to install the control panel for it (by default, you can only turn on and off a few things)
[01:09] <lix> broken: RAM>no matter
[01:09] <Gin> jburd, because I want gimpshop
[01:09] <oxeimon> does anyone know how to write conditional macro's in a makefile?
[01:10] <kode> Mo9a7i: first you need to enable the desktop effects
[01:10] <pipegeek> Mo9a7i: install compizconfig-settings-manager from synaptic
[01:10] <blahblahx> Okay so I've remastered Ubuntu Gutsy (started with the minimal install, built up on it using gnome-core and other apps). The livecd works great, has all the programs I want on it.
[01:10] <blahblahx> When I fire up ubiquity, it can go through the install steps perfectly, but when I click the big ol install button, it starts installing things I didn't have on my livecd like openoffice, language packs, etc...
[01:10] <blahblahx> Why is ubiquity doing this? Shouldn't it just copy over the contents of my livecd onto the HD?
[01:10] <RagingBull> i had to pass a few thing to the kernel when i installed 7.04 how do i edit those settings now that the system is already installed
[01:10] <blahblahx> If I need to edit some files to make ubiquity only install the apps on my hd, then where do I find those? Is there a script I can use to let ubiquity know to only install the apps on my cd?
[01:10] <jburd> Gin: Why do you want GIMPSHOP?  Do you know it's not being maintained?
[01:10] <pipegeek> Mo9a7i: then configure compiz through the "appearance" control panel.
[01:10] <blahblahx> anyone here actually know something about ubuntu?
[01:10] <kode> and then do like pipegeek said
[01:10] <thedefender> how do i access the ATI control panel
[01:10] <Chris33> 32 bit doesn't support more than 4GB, so 64 bit is an advantage if you have 4 or more
[01:10] <digitori__> clay__: did you get an answer for eclips?
[01:10] <Gin> jburd, I like its interface better
[01:10] <greencookie> Hey quick question peeps. If I wanna install oracle database 10g, would it be best to download it or install it via termina using apt-get. I need this to practice my SQL is there any alternative? thanks in advance.
[01:10] <Mo9a7i> mmmm ok i'll check it out ,, thanx kode & pipegeek
[01:10] <lix> blahblahx: some of us ;)
[01:10] <pipegeek> np
[01:10] <pipegeek> ^.^
[01:10] <_ebirtaid> blahblahx: your request is kind of esoteric we all know SOMETHING about ubuntu ;p
[01:10] <jburd> Gin: Probably because you are an ex-Photoshop user?
[01:10] <kode> you're welcome
[01:10] <lix> blahblahx: what do u wanna know?
[01:10] <blahblahx> lix:
[01:10] <blahblahx> Okay so I've remastered Ubuntu Gutsy (started with the minimal install, built up on it using gnome-core and other apps). The livecd works great, has all the programs I want on it.
[01:11] <blahblahx> When I fire up ubiquity, it can go through the install steps perfectly, but when I click the big ol install button, it starts installing things I didn't have on my livecd like openoffice, language packs, etc...
[01:11] <blahblahx> Why is ubiquity doing this? Shouldn't it just copy over the contents of my livecd onto the HD?
[01:11] <blahblahx> If I need to edit some files to make ubiquity only install the apps on my hd, then where do I find those? Is there a script I can use to let ubiquity know to only install the apps on my cd?
[01:11] <broken> lix: the ix86 is for 32 bit archietectures no?
[01:11] <jburd> Gin: I'd suggest getting accustomed to the GIMP user interface instead.  Gimpshop will lack a lot of functionality.
[01:11] <_ebirtaid> broken yes
[01:11] <Gin> jburd, nope, I just don't like gimp having so many small windows around the  screen
[01:11] <greencookie> Hey quick question peeps. If I wanna install oracle database 10g, would it be best to download it or install it via termina using apt-get. I need this to practice my SQL is there any alternative? thanks in advance.
[01:11] <lix> broken: afaik
[01:11] <greencookie> Gin: Maybe you need a bigger screen?:)
[01:11] <jburd> Gin, heh,  I used to hate that too, but you know what?  It's not that bad at all once you get used to it.
[01:11] <blahblahx> lix:
[01:11] <thedefender> how do i access the ATI control panel
[01:11] <blahblahx> Okay so I've remastered Ubuntu Gutsy (started with the minimal install, built up on it using gnome-core and other apps). The livecd works great, has all the programs I want on it.
[01:11] <blahblahx> When I fire up ubiquity, it can go through the install steps perfectly, but when I click the big ol install button, it starts installing things I didn't have on my livecd like openoffice, language packs, etc...
[01:11] <blahblahx> Why is ubiquity doing this? Shouldn't it just copy over the contents of my livecd onto the HD?
[01:11] <blahblahx> If I need to edit some files to make ubiquity only install the apps on my hd, then where do I find those? Is there a script I can use to let ubiquity know to only install the apps on my cd?
[01:11] <_ebirtaid> jesus
[01:11] <jrib> blahblahx: do not do that
[01:12] <digitori__> Gin: you can arrange the gimp windows in a manner similar to photoshop
[01:12] <taz> 2038
[01:12] <blahblahx> sorry i messed up only mean to paste it once
[01:12] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib, I already told him twice
[01:12] <broken> lix: yes, so if you want to use your 64bit processor o the full potential you have to use the amd64 cd
[01:12] <greencookie> someone please advice me how to install oracle 10g
[01:12] <jrib> blahblahx: shorten your question to a single line, or summarize it and pastebin the details
[01:12] <riotkittie> gah.
[01:12] <digitori__> Gin: only main difference is photoshops gui border
[01:12] <taz> opps ever mind that number
[01:12] <jburd> Gin, besides using GNOME you can keep all the tool windows in GIMP on top on its own workspace too.
[01:12] <broken> lix: well, thats not true I clicked on the link for 64bit processors and it brough me to an amd64 download.
[01:12] <brian1san00b> I have a total noob question.  When I minimize my programs they are just kinda "gone" and I dont know how to get them back.  Is there some kind of task bar that I closed that shows what programs are open?  I swear I have 50 firefoxes open right now... please help.
[01:12] <thedefender> !ati control panel
[01:12] <Gin> digitori__, I want all the small windows in one single big window
[01:12] <lix> broken: you told me you got intel core2
[01:12] <jburd> Gin: That helps a lot if you want to see everything.
[01:12] <blahblahx> its a simple question: why does ubiquity install stuff that isnt on my custom livecd and if i need to, what files do i edit to change it jrib
[01:13] <Pici> !away > RAVTUX-AWAY (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[01:13] <jrib> blahblahx: I don't know anything about it
[01:13] <greencookie> brian1san00b: you need to right click on taskbar then add to panel then add workspace switcher.
[01:13] <_ebirtaid> fn'brian1san00b: right click panel add applet task list
[01:13] <broken> lix: intel core 2 duo
[01:13] <twiztr> Is there virtual machine software for Ubuntu?
[01:13] <digitori__> Gin: think outta the box, your gui is that windowyour
[01:13] <brian1san00b> okay I will try that
[01:13] <thedefender> anyone know how to access the ati control
[01:13] <broken> lix: the only one that has core 2 in the name is the duo, the other one is core duo
[01:13] <blahblahx> of course no one does here
[01:13] <thedefender> panel
[01:13] <_ebirtaid> twiztr: vmware or virtualbox or qemu
[01:13] <jrib> !virtualizers > twiztr (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:13] <Paddy_EIRE> !attitude | blahblahx
[01:13] <ubotu> blahblahx: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:13] <blahblahx> youd think there would be one person that knew something other than the pretty GUI
[01:13] <lix> broken: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=579707
[01:13] <boontoo> Does anyone know how i can change the GRUB boot menu so that when i select say "Ubuntu English" it boots into ubuntu with the default language as english however if i select "ubuntu japanese" ubuntu boots with japanese as the default language? anyone
[01:13] <jrib> !support > blahblahx (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:14] <blahblahx> and of course no one answers on the forums either :)
[01:14] <riotkittie> you'd think that someone who would have the gall to get so.... <shuts up and leaves lest she find herself banned>
[01:14] <avgeneral> How do I enable mod_rewrite in apache2?]\
[01:14] <avgeneral> ?
[01:14] <avgeneral> "
[01:14] <yadayada> what are some steps i could take to make ubuntu 100% secure for a webserver
[01:14] <digitori__> blahblahx: there are people here with a wealth of knowlegde, we can only focus on one thing and person at a time
[01:14] <blahblahx> digitori__: everyone but me huh?
[01:15] <jburd> blahblahx: Patience.
[01:15] <mEck0> I use wallpapoz to make it possible to have different wallpapers on each workspace, but it is annoying that it is a delay when switching desktop before the "right" wallpaper is loaded. Can this be fixed in some way?
[01:15] <digitori__> blahblahx: we all started where you are, keep that in mind
[01:15] <twiztr> Thanks! I'm out. :D
[01:15] <marcioapf> i have a (idiot) doubt: why some of my video icons change to one of its frames, and other don't?
[01:15] <Paddy_EIRE> blahblahx, so far I dont see why anyone would want to help you ;)
[01:15] <desertc> jburd: hehe
[01:15] <riotkittie> blahblahx: perhaps people were here before you.
[01:15] <Jenkem> Hi
[01:15] <kode> blahblahx: people also need to want to help you, and that atitude isn't helping
[01:15] <broken> lix: yep, i have an amd64 using the 64bit version of gentoo on it everything seems to working fine, actually flash is running more troubleless on the 64bit computer lol
[01:16] <_ebirtaid> ha kode
[01:16] <lix> broken: yes. there are less maintained deb packages for amd64
[01:16] <digitori__> digitori started at the beginning but dived right in and the "water" is lovely
[01:16] <jburd> Gutsy is the most enjoyable distribution I have used.
[01:16] <avgeneral> How do I enable Mod_Rewrite in my Apache2?
[01:16] <jburd> Good work.
[01:16] <Paddy_EIRE> He's gone... and really non-deserving of any help anyway
[01:16] <Jenkem> how's everyone
[01:16] <_ebirtaid> jburd: arch is good
[01:16] <_ebirtaid> also fedora
[01:16] <broken> jburd: yes perhaps I will put ubuntu on my family computer as opposed to open suse
[01:16] <_ebirtaid> suse sucks though ;p
[01:16] <broken> oh yea
[01:16] <blahblahx> sorry i got logged off did anyone answer my question?
[01:17] <broken> tell me about it, it was soo fine and dandy at the beginning now its all this crap that doesn't work.
[01:17] <digitori__> Paddy_EIRE: such a shame about blah's attitude
[01:17] <_ebirtaid> I believe it
[01:17] <riotkittie> i did but i lost my buffer and cant be bothered to type it all out again.
[01:17] <jburd> _ebirtaid: I haven't given arch a try, but fedora?  No way.  I've lost faith in RPM based distros.
[01:17] <marcioapf> i have a (idiot) doubt: why some of my video icons change to one of its frames, and other don't?
[01:17] <_ebirtaid> rpm sucks but fedora served its purpose in having my wireless work better than ubuntu
[01:17] <_ebirtaid> plus its default ui is nice
[01:18] <blahblahx> jeez im pissed of
[01:18] <jburd> Ah.
[01:18] <_ebirtaid> but arch is +fav nnow
 and <greencookie>:  Thank you, it worked.
[01:18] <avgeneral> [problem] I can't get apache2 to work with mod_rewrite
[01:18] <digitori__> blahblahx: whats up dude?
[01:18] <_ebirtaid> brian: coolness
[01:18] <jburd> I'm trying out Sabayon on a box at the moment.  Mandriva was a PITA.
[01:18] <munk_> anyone here work with KDevelop?
[01:18] <_ebirtaid> never tried either, I have heard nice things about sabayon though
[01:18] <nonix4> is playback of css dvds on amd64 w/ gutsy possible w/out resorting to medibuntu/other-more-questionable-sources-for-w64codecs?
[01:18] <digitori__> munk: I have but not been doing so for very long
[01:19] <marcioapf> why some of my video icons change to one of its frames, and other don't?
[01:19] <yadayada> what are some steps i could take to make ubuntu 100% secure for a webserver
[01:19] <yadayada> ?
[01:19] <MilitantPotato> !factoids
[01:19] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:19] <digitori__> yadayda: unplug it from the net!
[01:19] <Styrbjorn> hmm do www.sidvicious.se work for you?
[01:19] <jburd> I helped someone install Gutsy over the phone today.  She was thrilled that it took only 7 page tabs to install Ubuntu.  "Oh my God!  All done in FIVE MINUTES?!"
[01:19] <Styrbjorn> http
[01:19] <cake4567> hey....how do I transfer saved firefox pwrods from vista to ubuntu?
[01:20] <MilitantPotato> !security | yadayada
[01:20] <ubotu> yadayada: If you feel the need to adopt security measures for your system, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server
[01:20] <yadayada> alright fine.. 99.9% secure
[01:20] <crdlb> marcioapf: generally that means that totem couldn't read it when it tried to make a thumbnail
[01:20] <_ebirtaid> jburd: haha yea, ubuntu is prolly the easiest install I have evr had
[01:20] <munk_> digitori__: how do I get it so that I can include xlib.h, it says it not found (I am used to ide's coming with common libraries)
[01:20] <jburd> "That's the fastest and least painful installation I have ever done.  Thank you soooooo much"
[01:20] <jimcooncat> yadayada: have a separate box for it, virtualize, host it somewhere else ...
[01:20] <broken> munk_: rofl
[01:20] <broken> you
[01:20] <broken> are here
[01:20] <jburd> Now, that speaks for itself coming from someone who has NEVER used Linux.
[01:20] <_ebirtaid> exactly
[01:20] <marcioapf> crdlb: oh ok.
[01:20] <digitori__> yadayada: Im glad you understood....I wish i  could help you...im not too up on apache security at present
[01:20] <greencookie> brian1san00b: You're welcomee
[01:20] <twiztr> Has anyone came out with a fix for why flash files in Firefox just stopped playing sound, when I updated a few weeks ago?
[01:21] <broken> what channel am i on... why is crdlb here?
[01:21] <broken> and why is munk_  here?
[01:21]  * broken is going insane
[01:21] <crdlb> :o
[01:21] <arghh2d2> cuz glitchie gibbon upgrade blows
[01:21] <twiztr>  broken: they are stalking you.
[01:21] <yadayada> jimcooncat, could you elaborate please?
[01:21] <munk_> broken: why not?
[01:21] <broken> crdlb: the same crdlb off compiz-fusion / gentoo channels?
[01:21] <broken> munk_: john? is that you
[01:21] <arang2> guys can i ask something kind of offtopic?
[01:21] <crdlb> broken: indeed
[01:21] <jimcooncat> yadayada: I suppose it all depends on what you mean secure is. What are you securing against?
[01:21]  * digitori__ wonders why people upgraded and not fresh installed gutsy
[01:21] <munk_> broken: nope
[01:22] <_ebirtaid> arang: no
[01:22] <twiztr> So was that a no they haven't fixed it yet, then?
[01:22] <broken> well munk_ is a friend of mine he goes by that alias
[01:22] <broken> and he is using ubuntu
[01:22] <yadayada> jimcooncat, anything, making sure my database cannot be altered, deleted, etc
[01:22] <broken> Just kinda weird, you don'tr eally see that name twice.
[01:22] <munk_> broken: there are a number of munk's in this channel
[01:22] <broken> yea i see that now.
[01:22]  * broken goes to buy dvd's
[01:22]  * digitori__ thinks this might be a monastery?
[01:22] <broken> be back later. cheers.
[01:23] <jared> Okay I just fixed up ndiswapper on my laptop, and it's on livecd. It says I need to reboot, but I can't. What do I do?
[01:23] <digitori__> jared: why cant you reboot?
[01:23] <jimcooncat> yadayada: then you need to make sure anything that can alter that database is locked down. Not just an apache problem, right?
[01:23] <jared> digitori__, i'm in a live cd
[01:24] <jburd> Someone told me Mandriva is better than Ubuntu and you should go try it out.  I downloaded it, tried installing on a box and poof.  The installer sucks, and it doesn't even list India in the country list.  What kind of stupid distro misses a big country like that and has Myanmar and Tuvalu?  Not to mention, they don't even have a 64-bit version on offering.
[01:24] <yadayada> jimcooncat; correct
[01:24] <cake4567> jburd: whys that important?
[01:24] <_ebirtaid> jburd: nice
[01:24] <digitori__> jared: good point....youll lose settings if you reboot yes!
[01:24] <fstpierre> Hi
[01:24] <jimcooncat> yadayada: you using php? perl? something else to process the requests?
[01:24] <jared> what can I do?
[01:24] <yadayada> jimcooncat; php
[01:24] <jared> !ndiswrapper
[01:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:24] <jburd> cake4567: Why isn't it?
[01:25] <cake4567> cuz this is ubuntu chat lol
[01:25] <yadayada> jimcooncat: php and php only
[01:25] <jburd> cake4567: Ah, well.   I'm praising Ubuntu for its goodness.  :-)
[01:25] <cake4567> if ubuntu didnt it would be a problem
[01:25] <jimcooncat> yadayada: you write the php code or using someone else's?
[01:25] <cake4567> alright yay ubuntu
[01:26] <yadayada> jimcooncat: i have but i have spent so much time protecting it from sql injection and other hacks, that is why i want to make sure i take my time with this server so i dont find myself getting hacked
[01:26] <fstpierre> i have a Question about cron jobs
[01:27] <_ebirtaid> yadayada: set you root pass to password, that is a good start
[01:27] <_ebirtaid> then open all ports
[01:27]  * digitori__ says what?
[01:28] <_ebirtaid> joke ;p
[01:28] <fstpierre> if i add 00 03 0 0 0 /etc/init.d/courier-imap restart it should restart courier-imap at 3 oclock everyday correct?
[01:28] <digitori__> lol
[01:28] <desertc> jburd: everyone thinks their distribution is the best... but it comes down to support and who stands behind the product
[01:28] <digitori__> _ebirtaid: im glad somebody has a sense of humour
[01:28] <fstpierre> if i add 00 03 0 0 0 /etc/init.d/courier-imap restart to the crontab it should restart courier-imap at 3 oclock everyday correct?
[01:28] <_ebirtaid> desertc: also depends on what your goals are for the OS
[01:28] <jimcooncat> yadayada: so your server only does your webhosting, right?
[01:28] <MrSmurfing> join #cisco
[01:28] <_ebirtaid> I do wgat I can digi
[01:28]  * digitori__ says support it yourself is best line
[01:28] <MrSmurfing> oops
[01:29] <yadayada> jimcooncat: well idk, its the only server i have, so its gotta do it all, but that should be it, right?
[01:29] <desertc> _ebirtaid: hardest thing about open source is not putting features onto a disk, it's getting the bugs fixed.
[01:29] <_ebirtaid> very true
[01:30] <yadayada> jimcooncat: pm?
[01:30] <greencookie> hey guys how do I know if i have compiz enabled?
[01:30] <jimcooncat> yadayada: sure, pm me
[01:30] <fstpierre> if i add 00 03 0 0 0 /etc/init.d/courier-imap restart to the crontab it should restart courier-imap at 3 oclock AM everyday correct?
[01:30] <_ebirtaid> greencookie: cube is a good indicator
[01:30] <greencookie> um how do I get the cube?:)
[01:31] <_ebirtaid> super+mouse click should let you drag
[01:31] <_ebirtaid> or ctrl alt left/right should rotate it
[01:31] <greencookie> _ebirtaid: super?
[01:31] <_ebirtaid> windows key
[01:31] <digitori__> windows key arrg
[01:31] <_ebirtaid> thats why I said super ;)
[01:31] <greencookie> _ebirtaid: lol. ok i get a beeping sound.
[01:31] <digitori__> mines gonna be a penguin soon
[01:31] <greencookie> when i change workspace. no cube.
[01:32] <_ebirtaid> greencookoe: from a terminal try compiz --enable
[01:32] <kode> you just get an arrow?
[01:32] <greencookie> yep
[01:33] <_ebirtaid> digi I hardly look at mine so its not relevant
[01:33] <digitori__> greencookie: install compiz manager from synaptic too then go to your settings menu and run advanced desktop effects settings
[01:33] <_ebirtaid> I guess I could get a sticker or something
[01:33] <greencookie> ok digitori__will try that
[01:34] <Intelligitimate> Evolution is broke.
[01:34] <digitori__> greencookie: you will then get access to loads of nice effect settings
[01:34] <m_tadeu> is there a program similar to ksubtitleripper?
[01:35] <Paddy_EIRE> m_tadeu, tried searching the repos for 'subtitle'
[01:35] <greencookie> ok digitori__ thanks, I'll try that
[01:35] <Jenkem>  
[01:35] <greencookie> also digitori__ I just installed oracle db 10g but I cant get to database homepage, anything u know bout that?
[01:35] <digitori__> greencookie: the program is compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:36] <greencookie> ok i guess i can apt-get that
[01:36] <golemz> having a merry old time, installed awn, some fun themes - but i can't find where to set the number of workspaces anymore
[01:36] <golemz> my cube isn't a cube, it's a nasty polygon
[01:36] <fstpierre> anyone good with cronjob
[01:36] <digitori__> greencookie: I was going to have a look into oracle 10g but havent it yet so cant help you there sorry
[01:36] <fetenfetenn> hello, i'm having problems with gnome-appearance-properties
[01:36] <greencookie> digi its ok
[01:36] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib, whats the FloodBot's all about :/
[01:36] <fetenfetenn> anyone can help?
[01:37] <digitori__> greencookie: i use mysql
[01:37] <jrib> Paddy_EIRE: look at the n=
[01:37] <Paddy_EIRE> ahh
[01:37] <greencookie> digitori__: I just need it to run some sql scripts for homework. you think i should get mysql?
[01:37] <jmslouie> hi all, i need help about my newly installed gutsy. i am using feisty before and everything works fine but when i installed gutsy there's been a problem
[01:37] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | fetenfetenn
[01:37] <ubotu> fetenfetenn: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:38] <jmslouie> need help
[01:38] <Jenkem> always a problem
[01:38] <greencookie> I'm going to reboot.
[01:38] <digitori__> greencookie: mysql is already in the ubuntu repos, you can install via synaptic
[01:38] <Jenkem> I sell jenkem; who wants some?
[01:38] <greencookie> ok digitori__ thanks
[01:38] <fetenfetenn> ubotu: oh ok, well the programs just freezes, thats it
[01:39] <Paddy_EIRE> fetenfetenn, ubotu is a bot... and your question is extremely vague :/
[01:39] <digitori__afk> back shortly
[01:39] <_ebirtaid> h4r
[01:39] <Jenkem> well this is cool I guess; Ubuntu channel is getting bigger and bigger
[01:39] <_ebirtaid> byes digi
[01:39] <hansin> I have done a minimal Ubuntu install, and am building up package by package.  Does anyone know what package I need to get the Firefox spell-checking to work?  Thanks.
[01:39] <Jenkem> nearly 1200
[01:39] <fstpierre> anyone good with cronjobs?
[01:40] <Paddy_EIRE> jenda_, I've seen it eclipse 1500+
[01:40] <Pelo> fstpierre,  what is your question ?
[01:40] <fetenfetenn> Paddy, i dont know what to add, i just launch the program, and it freezes, cpu goes up to 100% and i can only push te close button, nothing else
[01:40] <_ebirtaid> paddy I am unimpressed! ;p
[01:40] <fstpierre> 00 03 0 0 0 /etc/init.d/courier-imap restart will that restart courier-imap every morning at 3
[01:40] <mechung> question.... i use quanta plus with apache and when i save the quanta files i save them in /var/www/  and i was under the assumption that once that was done it would show up...ie  i put in localhost and see nothing but the apache folder open it and all it says is " Its Working!" what am i doing wrong???
[01:41] <Thor> is there a program that manages like bootsplash, GDM, and all that kind of stuff?
[01:41] <munk_> anyone here work with KDevelop?
[01:41] <Paddy_EIRE> fetenfetenn, the name of the program would be a good start ;)
[01:41] <Jenkem> Paddy_EIRE: I'm not jenda_
[01:41] <_ebirtaid> thor: what?
[01:41] <Pelo> fstpierre, it should, but I suggest you try it out by giving it a restart time a few minutes away
[01:41] <fetenfetenn> Paddy: well, it was in my first line: gnome-appearance-properties
[01:41] <Paddy_EIRE> _ebirtaid, unimpressed by what?? :/
[01:41] <jmslouie> why does the sound after showing the login window repeat continuously?
[01:41] <_ebirtaid> 1500 users
[01:41] <_ebirtaid> thank you for killing ym joke :(
[01:41] <Pelo> fstpierre, actualy,  try the /usr/bin/courier-imap line instead
[01:41] <SiegeX> 0 3 * * *  <--- every day at 3AM
[01:42] <Paddy_EIRE> _ebirtaid, oh.. lol
[01:42] <Styrbjorn> hmm can someone try to surf http://www.sidvicious.se
[01:42] <Styrbjorn> connectable?
[01:42] <Pelo> fstpierre, SiegeX  is right about the time,  my mistake
[01:42] <Jenkem> _ebirtaid: what joke?
[01:42] <Thor> _ebirtaid: i had this program before i upgraded to gutsy that managed stuff like bootsplashes, gdm's, GTK stuff
[01:42] <Styrbjorn> or do you get a timeout?
[01:43] <fstpierre> ok 46 20 * * * /etc/init.d/courier-imap restart
[01:43] <Pelo> xghyu
[01:43] <_ebirtaid> thor: not sure, gnome-theme-manager comes to mind but I doubt thats what you mean
[01:43] <fstpierre> 8:46
[01:43] <Pelo> Styrbjorn, it opens for me
[01:43] <SiegeX> yes
[01:43] <SiegeX> PM
[01:43] <Thor> it was something i found in the repo's but i cant remember the name of it
[01:43] <_ebirtaid> but you should be able to change gdm gtk etc through gnome-control-center
[01:43] <unikon> hello does anyone get beeping sounds while typing using 7.10 gutsy
[01:43] <Styrbjorn> Pelo: ahh great thanks :)
[01:43] <Pelo> fstpierre, 45 * * * * would have done as well for a test
[01:43] <Styrbjorn> now it's time for bed
[01:43] <Styrbjorn> bbl
[01:44] <stgmavrick> i see it alot in enlightenment screenshots, but what app(s) do the computer information on the desktop?
[01:44] <_ebirtaid> fn'stgmavrick: conky?
[01:44] <renee_> how do i create /dev/video1
[01:44] <_ebirtaid> or gdesklets or screenlets?
[01:45] <falconer> what is a good svn gui for a newbie?
[01:45] <stgmavrick> which is a fav of everyone?
[01:45] <Pelo> stgmavrick,  gdesklets, screelets or another wone gtkrll or some such
[01:45] <_ebirtaid> I like conky, shrug
[01:45] <fstpierre> how do i check the stas
[01:45] <mechung> i use quanta plus with apache and when i save the quanta files i save them in /var/www/  and i was under the assumption that once that was done it would show up...ie  i put in localhost and see nothing but the apache folder open it and all it says is " Its Working!" what am i doing wrong???
[01:45] <fstpierre> how do i check the status
[01:45] <Pelo> stgmavrick, gdesklets if you run gnome,  screenlets if you have compiz enabled
[01:45] <renee_> how do i create /dev/video1
[01:45] <Jenkem> channel #ubuntu is 6th biggest channel on IRC according to this site http://searchirc.com/top100.php
[01:46] <stgmavrick> Pelo:  yeah i have compiz enabled
[01:46] <_ebirtaid> pelo: you can use screenlets with xcompmgr also
[01:46] <jimcooncat> mechung: you'd need to check your apache conf
[01:46] <Pelo> fstpierre, top , look for the process and check the start time , or try with  system monitor
[01:46] <_ebirtaid> any compositor
[01:46] <mechung> jimcooncat: check it for what?
[01:46] <stgmavrick> i just see some of these desktops and dont even begin to wonder how to get mine like that
[01:46] <Pelo> stgmavrick, you can get screenlets from their website , google for it
[01:47] <_ebirtaid> fn'stgmavrick: google linux eyecandy ;)
[01:47] <Pelo> stgmavrick, give us a screenshot of what you want andwe can maybe tell you where to start
[01:47] <_ebirtaid> yes porobably
[01:47] <stgmavrick> http://www.step.polymtl.ca/~coyote/linux_desktops.html
[01:47] <renee_> how do i create /dev/video1
[01:47] <Pelo> renee_, modprob I think
[01:47] <_ebirtaid> which one of these?
[01:47] <stgmavrick> i've been running gnome for about 2 years and so far all i can do is just change some menus around
[01:47] <_ebirtaid> stg
[01:48] <jimcooncat> mechung: if it's standard, maybe you got an index file in /var/www/ and it's showing that.
[01:48] <orcamage> hi!!!!!!!1
[01:48] <_ebirtaid> hi
[01:48] <orcamage> asl pls??
[01:49] <Pelo> stgmavrick, which of those desktop do you like that you want us to give you advise on ?
[01:49] <mechung> jimcooncat: i do should i delete that index file??
[01:49] <Pelo> orcamage, more details
[01:49] <renee_> how do i create /dev/video1
[01:49] <domor> hELLO HELLo
[01:49] <m1k3> I need help, I can't log into root so how the hell can I change the permissions of a folder/location ?
[01:49] <Pelo> renee_, try asking in ##linux or check in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:49] <jimcooncat> mechung: rename it or move it, and try again. you should see a list of the other files you stuck in there
[01:49] <domor> Who had problems wiht the nividia driver
[01:49] <Pelo> m1k3,   with sudo
[01:49] <_ebirtaid> m1k3:  if it is not in your home directory you cant
[01:49] <Ktron> m1k3, sudo chmod
[01:50] <_ebirtaid> without root access
[01:50] <mechung> mik3: sudo -l i think
[01:50] <Ktron> m1k3, and sudo chown
[01:50] <Ktron> m1k3, or sudo su
[01:50] <desertc> domor: Someone doesn't have problems with the nvidia driver?
[01:50] <Pelo> _ebirtaid, sudo gives you admin priviledges
[01:50] <sahaj> hi need help on compiz
[01:50] <_ebirtaid> yes I know
[01:50] <m1k3> I know about sudo
[01:50] <Pelo> sahaj, ask in #compiz-fusion
[01:50] <mechung> jimcooncat: thanks ill try
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> m1k3: gksudo for gnome gui    kdesu for kde gui   as root
[01:50] <orcamage> eloww!!!!!!!!
[01:50] <_ebirtaid> I read he cant log in as root as he doesnt have root access at all
[01:50] <sahaj> k thnx Pelo
[01:50] <domor> i insallted it and couldn;t boot
[01:50] <jrib> m1k3: that is how you do it, you use sudo
[01:50] <m1k3> How can I actually create files and shit without being denied access
[01:50] <Pelo> orcamage, we need more details , you didn,t ask any question
[01:51] <jrib> m1k3: you use sudo.  Tell us what happens when you try
[01:51] <m1k3> How can I change permissions of a folder in the terminal
[01:51] <_ebirtaid> orcamage wants some booty I think
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> m1k3: gksudo nautilus  or gksudo gedit or ...
[01:51] <BlueRider> Same problem. Can anyone explain me (even in private) how am I supposed to shut down the X server AND be able to do an install (write command line instructions) afterwards?
[01:51] <stgmavrick> Pelo:  i guess i like a good majority of the "enlightenment" desktops ppl customize
[01:51] <m1k3> No, no I wanna be able to create folders without terminal but it's saying I don't have the right permissions..
[01:51] <m1k3> ok
[01:51] <Pelo> BlueRider, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:51] <BlueRider> it doesn't do anything, pelo
[01:52] <Pelo> stgmavrick, pick one
[01:52] <BlueRider> it says it stops it, but it doesn't do anything
[01:52] <jrib> m1k3: what folders are you creating?
[01:52] <stgmavrick> Pelo:  i like my desktop to look "3dish" similar to how OS X pulls it off
[01:52] <m1k3> I installed an apche server
[01:52] <domor> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=612587
[01:52] <m1k3> And I'm trying to make html files
[01:52] <Pelo> BlueRider,  do it when you are in the desktop
[01:52] <sahaj> !compiz | stgmavrick
[01:52] <ubotu> stgmavrick: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[01:52] <stgmavrick> Pelo:  lol thats like telling a kid to pick one at a candystore
[01:52] <stgmavrick> sahaj:  compiz is enabled
[01:53] <fstpierre> thx pelo and SiegeX
[01:53] <jrib> m1k3: setup a group for web development and give it access to /var/www
[01:53] <_ebirtaid> they are all kind of ugly though ;p
[01:53] <BlueRider> the installer still says an X server is running. should i hit ctr alt back after i give that command?
[01:53] <m1k3> gksudo nautilus worked thank you
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:53] <_ebirtaid> blue yes
[01:53] <Pelo> stgmavrick,  I have no idea what 3dish means and I have never used osx,  start with  www.gnome-look.org you might find that easier to start
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> m1k3: use sparingly
[01:53]  * Pelo goes back to watching his show 
[01:53] <BlueRider> well if i do that, then i will be transported to a text window where i don't receive a prompt
[01:54] <BlueRider> i can write stuff on the screen but i can't write commands
[01:54] <_ebirtaid> hit ctrl alt f1 and it should bring you to a prompt
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> m1k3: It is a huge app ...  I would like to suggest thunar  if you want to do that very often... it is lighter and less likely to mess up something
[01:54] <Pelo>  ,
[01:54] <Pelo>  .j
[01:54] <BlueRider> i don't have F1 working on this keyboard :((
[01:54] <Pelo>  ,¸
[01:54] <_ebirtaid> ...
[01:54] <Pelo> BlueRider,  what is it you are trying to do ?
[01:54] <_ebirtaid> then f2 ;p
[01:54] <asn> Anyone who knows stuff about IP cameras?
[01:54] <_ebirtaid> f1-f6 will work
[01:54] <domor> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=612587
[01:54] <_ebirtaid> f7 will bring you back to your gui
[01:55] <BlueRider> oh
[01:55] <BlueRider> ok i'll give it a shot
[01:55] <Pelo> domor,  this channel is too busy for us to click random links without knowing what the issue is,  just tive us the basics
[01:55] <digitori__> asn: whats an IP camera?
[01:55] <bastid_raZor> if i have an iso mounted how might i force it to unmount?
[01:55] <SiegeX> internet accessable camera
[01:55] <SiegeX> im assuming
[01:55] <LordKow> BlueRider, try alt+f keys _ebirtaid mentioned too before giving up. I read a couple howtos last week that told me to do alt+f7 to pop-up gdm
[01:55] <SiegeX> you know, for like web porn and stuff
[01:55] <_ebirtaid> ip is a funny acronym for that
[01:55] <Pelo> bastid_raZor, sudo umount /mountpoint
[01:56] <bastid_raZor> thanks Pelo
[01:56] <digitori__> All: like webcam
[01:56] <domor> pelo: ok im haing problems wiht video driver
[01:56] <BlueRider>  * Stopping GNOME Display Manager...                                     [ OK ]
[01:56] <domor> pelo: some people have allreayd tryed helping me but i havn;t fixed it
[01:56] <Pelo> domor,  bit more details
[01:56] <BlueRider> now i hit alt ctrl back, right?
[01:56] <ltkun> Can I delete files in hfs+ partition under Ubuntu?
[01:56] <bastid_raZor> Pelo, i get device is busy which i don't care.. i want to unmount it anyway.
[01:56] <_ebirtaid> if you want to get to a tty hit ctrl alt f2 now blue
[01:56] <_ebirtaid> if you want to kill x server hit ctrl alt bksp
[01:56] <domor> ok well i installed driver in restricted drivers then restarted computer and screen just switches off
[01:56] <digitori__> asn: are you having driver problems for your webcam?
[01:56] <Pelo> bastid_raZor,  man umount, look for the option to force it , I dont, know it by heart
[01:57] <bastid_raZor> Pelo, okay, thanks
[01:57] <domor> Pelo: some guy helped me so that i could boot back in but the driver isn't running
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> domor: at the blank screen.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:57] <Pelo> domor,  boot recovery ,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   , review the info or select the vesa driver
[01:57] <munk_> !emacs
[01:57] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[01:57] <digitori__> asn: you have ten seconds to reply then i move on...you have driver problems?
[01:57] <bastid_raZor> Pelo, -f .. what should of been a given. ;)
[01:57] <broken> munk_: ! :P
[01:58] <bastid_raZor> what == that
[01:58] <_ebirtaid> should've also bastid ;)
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> domor: Just as often as the video card config I find people have not setup their monitor correctly in xorg.
[01:58] <Pelo> bastid_raZor, but not always
[01:58] <BlueRider> it didn't work. after i hit alt ctrl back, the visual interface kicked in again
[01:58] <stgmavrick> http://www.tuxmachines.org/images/blfsp3/desktop01.jpg  the information in the top right hand corner is something that i'd like
[01:58] <domor> Pelo: someguy helped me and now i don;t have a xorg.conf file please vist my forum
[01:58] <_ebirtaid> bluerider: go to a tty and use killall gdm
[01:58] <Oli```> Does cron run as the user who writes the entry?
[01:58] <_ebirtaid> and kill any processes using xorg
[01:58] <digitori__> domor: always back up anything your working on
[01:59] <_ebirtaid> oli: I think
[01:59] <bastid_raZor> digitori__, your == you're
[01:59] <central> hello
[01:59] <Pelo> domor, if you are using X you have xorg.conf , you cannot avoid it, if you don'T have an xorg.conf file that would explain why you are not getting any screen action
[01:59] <central> may i ask for some help
[01:59] <asn> Greetings. I was planning on installing Ubuntu to a friends PC tomorrow (He knows nothing about computers in general, and he is willing to learn so it's an ideal chance), but I just remembered that he has no Internet connection (He will get one in a month or so), and Ubuntu doesn't come with mp3 support by default.
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> domor: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/Desktop/xorg.conf.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)          is a way to make a copy.. for next time...
[01:59] <digitori__> bastid_raZor: that shoulda been your
[01:59] <_ebirtaid> central: of course not
[02:00] <bastid_raZor> digitori__, true, my mistake
[02:00] <domor> i didn have xorg file but some guy was telling me all these command to try and fix it vist http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=612587 i got a pic of files in etc/X11
[02:00] <digitori__> hhe
[02:00] <Pelo> Oli```,  you can have cron for the user by editing with just crontab, if you want to run a cronjob as root  edit with  sudo crontab
[02:00] <domor> jack_sparrow: visit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=612587
[02:00] <SlizeKalfer> there sure are updates a lot
[02:00] <bass1231234> Hey, i know this is a very simple question, i can get most things to work... But for some reason there is just nowhere to change my icons, on the forums and interent it says go here i do it and its not there.... so i dont know??????????????????????
[02:00] <digitori__> domor: you would have had an xorg config file as soon as you installed the system
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> asn: If you have a mp3 working on your system.. copy var/cache/apt/archives folder to a cd...  use it as source for his update
[02:01] <central> i need to change a config and to add a line in to it , so i use terminal and log as root then i go to the right directory where in that config file  then what in the commande to edit that config txt file
[02:01] <Pelo> bass1231234,  change the icon theme or just a specific icon ?
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> domor: run that command I posted and see what happens
[02:01] <domor> digitior_: i did but some guy helped me before and he made me change the names and that
[02:01] <bass1231234> icon theme
[02:01] <domor> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=612587
[02:01] <mEck0> is it possible to use my fingerprint reader on my laptop to log in to ubuntu?
[02:01] <domor> visit that for screen shot http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=612587
[02:01] <Pelo> bass1231234, goto  menu > system > prefs> appearance
[02:01] <sfears> hello
[02:01] <digitori__> domor: see Jack_sparrows comments
[02:01] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid:  looking at screenlets is nice, but i was hoping to have something more textual like in this guys top right hand corner http://www.tuxmachines.org/images/blfsp3/desktop01.jpg
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> mEck0: No..
[02:01] <bastid_raZor> domor, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will give you a new xorg.conf
[02:01] <BlueRider> ok thanks it worked, i pressed ctrl alt F3 and i got a prompt
[02:01] <sfears> so i
[02:02] <sfears> wooops
[02:02] <bass1231234> k im in it
[02:02] <domor> jack_sparrow: the sudo dpkg.................. command
[02:02] <_ebirtaid> fn'stgmavrick: that is conky
[02:02] <Pelo> bass1231234, then select the theme tab,  at the bottom click the personnalised button,  and then the icon tab
[02:02] <BlueRider> then after i finished i ran the command again with start and it worked
[02:02] <_ebirtaid> use sudo apt-get install conky
[02:02] <desertc> Is the guy who was asking about changing the GNOME splash screen still around?
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> domor: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/Desktop/xorg.conf.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)
[02:02] <digitori__> All: Xorg does my head in my wife deals with that
[02:02] <mEck0> Jack_Sparrow, okay, do you know if there is any distro which it does work in?
[02:02] <sfears> i'm in the middle of distro upgrade, it finished fetching the upgrades, it has an arrow beside installing the upgrades but i think it's stuck, is there a way to see if it's working
[02:02] <bass1231234> ahh!!
[02:02] <jimcooncat> stgmavrick: that's pretty, I think I'll get conky if it can do that
[02:02] <bass1231234> thanckyou so much
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> domor: that will copy your xorg.. if it exists to your desktop
[02:02] <wease|> hello folks
[02:02] <_ebirtaid> conky is tight :D
[02:02] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid:  noob to eye candy, not linux ;)
[02:02] <bass1231234> on the internet they were all saying go somewhere else haha
[02:02] <sfears> it's still at 0% and i don't see anything moving
[02:03] <_ebirtaid> ah :D
[02:03] <Pelo> sfears,it will fetch more files if they are needed , be very patient if you are upgrading online
[02:03] <_ebirtaid> well yea conky is the name, iots in repos, configs can be found in the forums if you search thread titles fopr beautiful conky
[02:03] <Pelo> bass1231234,  depends on the release you are running
[02:03] <sfears> it finished fetching.. now it's stuck at installing
[02:03] <Reng> when you guy use wine to install program like steam. how do you remove steam from your computer? i do not see any uninstaller?
[02:03] <digitori__> sfears: you could kill that program and try again
[02:03] <sfears> alright
[02:03] <desertc> bass1231234: be sure to update the website to help the next guy
[02:03] <_ebirtaid> it is a very good monitoring app
[02:03] <bass1231234> k
[02:03] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid:  thanks, it looks like it is
[02:03] <Pelo> sfears, like I said, once it has fetched, it might need some more files,  be very patient
[02:04] <central> what is the commande to edit a txt file in the terminal please ?
[02:04] <Pelo> central, nano
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> central: sudo nano
[02:04] <digitori__> sfears:Pelo is correct give it some more time
[02:04] <_ebirtaid> if you google conky variables it will also give you a list of all available options for it to monitor
[02:04] <lockd> does anyone know of a good MIDI to "raster" audio format converter?
[02:04] <domor> jack_sparrow: cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[02:04] <_ebirtaid> which can cinlude temp mpd/xmms staus
[02:04] <_ebirtaid> its really neat :D
[02:04] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid:  rgr
[02:04] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid:  i use banshee
[02:04] <lockd> anyone who has used timidity can surely see the 50Meg files generated from 20kb sources
[02:04] <Pelo> lockd,  try soundconverter , it might be able to do it
[02:04] <_ebirtaid> hmmm dont think banshee is supported
[02:05] <buttercups> domor, Jack_Sparrow command will not work, you need to rename one of those 3 xorg files to xorg.conf or reconfigure like suggested
[02:05] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid:  i wasnt a fan of xmms, i used it when i ran gnome on gentoo and just wasnt all that happy with it
[02:05] <domor> ive got xorg files but not called xorg.conf they have other stuff after them screenshot of files here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=612587
[02:05] <central> what is the command to edit a txt file in the terminal please ?
[02:05] <lockd> Pelo: thanks
[02:05] <domor> buttercups how do i rename and delet the other ones
[02:05] <Pelo> domor,  just rename one xorg.conf
[02:05] <stgmavrick> central, which one?
[02:05] <domor> pelo: how
[02:05] <_ebirtaid> nano central
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> domor: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:05] <bastid_raZor> Pelo, heh, i'm brain numb.. i was in /media/iso and that is why it would not umount..
[02:05] <stgmavrick> central:  i use nano, but thats just me
[02:05] <_ebirtaid> it is the best
[02:05] <_ebirtaid> :D
[02:05] <central> i need to edit a config file in terminal
[02:06] <Pelo> domor,  cp whateverthefilenameis xorg.conf
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> central: and we told you how to do it
[02:06] <_ebirtaid> laffo
[02:06] <Pelo> domor,  in your case  cp source destination
[02:06] <Pelo> domor,  with sudo
[02:06] <bass1231234> How do i put the icon themes ive downloaded into the icons things
[02:06] <bass1231234> thing
[02:06] <Pelo> central,  which file ?
[02:06] <domor> pelo: im newbie sorry what you mean
[02:06] <_ebirtaid> bass: extarct the file to ~/.icons
[02:06] <stgmavrick> bass1231234:  install theme
[02:06] <_ebirtaid> that also
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> bass1231234: drop the tar onto the theme manager
[02:06] <Godscape> Can someone help me convert proprietary video (MPEG, Apple Quicktime) to open source formats (Ogg Theora) please?
[02:06] <digitori__> central cd to folder of your file type vi in the terminal then name of your file
[02:06] <Pelo> bass1231234,  just drag drop the tar.gz file onteh manager
[02:07] <Pelo> domor, give me the name of a file you want to rename
[02:07] <bass1231234> k thancks
[02:07] <_ebirtaid> godscape: try pacpl? I think it does video
[02:07] <bastid_raZor> Godscape, goodle handbrake..
[02:07] <stgmavrick> Pelo:  thats one thing i do enjoy about gnome, themes are easymode
[02:07] <bastid_raZor> Godscape, google rather..
[02:07] <Reng> when you guy use wine to install program like steam. how do you remove steam from your computer? i do not see any uninstaller?
[02:07] <Godscape> blastid_razor, what's handbrake?  _ebirtaid, what's pacpl?
[02:07] <_ebirtaid> wineuninst I think?
[02:07] <_ebirtaid> they are stored in ~/.wine
[02:07] <domor> palo "xorg.conf_old"
[02:07] <kantlivelong> hey all
[02:07] <central> the privoxy config as far i need to be as root i want to edit this file
[02:07] <_ebirtaid> just delete the folder
[02:08] <bastid_raZor> Godscape, a conversion app for convertng videos
[02:08] <kantlivelong> im having odd lag w/ nvidia on gutsy
[02:08] <Pelo> domor,  use  the command   sudo cp xorg.conf_old  xorg.conf
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> central: sudo nano
[02:08] <central> ok
[02:08] <Pelo> stgmavrick, this one guy , was so surprised after I told him he thought I was puttnig him on
[02:08] <domor> pelo: done! now what
[02:08] <fluffman> any recommendations for a good torrent client in gnome?
[02:08] <digitori__> Reng: try wine uninstaller in terminal
[02:08] <Godscape> Developers, why is there no more music previews when you hover the mouse over an Ogg Vorbis file?  That was a neat feature!
[02:08] <FluxD> fluffman: deluge
[02:08] <Pelo> domor, now you have a file called xorg.conf do to it what ever you need to do
[02:09] <_ebirtaid> fluffman: transmission all the way
[02:09] <Pelo> fluffman,  utorrent running on wine
[02:09] <domor> pelo: i don;t kow what to do i ca't boot that my problem screen turns off
[02:09] <bastid_raZor> fluffman, actually i use kTorrent for kde in gnome.. but i've heard transmission is very good as well. even deluge is nice
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> central: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst          as an example
[02:09] <desertc> fluffman: What's wrong with the default?
[02:09] <Godscape> Gusty removed the beautiful splash and Ogg Vorbis previews.
[02:09] <fluffman> I'm used to ktorrent, but the fam can't figure out kde...it's too difficult
[02:09] <_ebirtaid> ...
[02:09] <bastid_raZor> Pelo, get out of town. ktorrent kicks utorrent in the head with a steel toe boot
[02:09] <_ebirtaid> you can run ktorrent in gnome
[02:09] <Pelo> domor, try booting now,  now that you have a xorg.conf file something should happen , if not , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:10] <stgmavrick> Pelo:  lol, i actually found it out by accident like the 2nd day i had gnome installed
[02:10] <Reng> digitori_, you want my to uninstall wine?
[02:10] <pgan> Hi - my eth0 connection does not come up when I start; I have to run dhclient manually.  According to /var/log/syslog, NetowrkManager disables it: http://pastebin.com/m65148fa0  What can I do?
[02:10] <fluffman> desertc: what's the default
[02:10] <domor> pelo: it won;t work
[02:10] <desertc> fluffman: The default bt app in GNOME works well.
[02:10] <Pelo> domor, try it
[02:10] <mike32> hello, what is the difference of ubuntu dvd.iso vs. desktop cd.iso? does the dvd contain all the extra package
[02:10] <fluffman> .torrents don't open in FF
[02:10] <domor> pelo: thats th reason why i changed the names and all that so i could get back in
[02:10] <Godscape> Totem makes this girl sound like a guy!
[02:10] <Pelo> domor,  consider a clean install
[02:10] <Godscape> And it skips!
[02:10] <digitori__> Reng: no, open terminal window and type wine uninstaller
[02:11] <domor> pelo: hat if it doesn;t work i have no idea what to do
[02:11] <Godscape> Skippy!
[02:11] <mike32>  hello, what is the difference of ubuntu dvd.iso vs. desktop cd.iso? does the dvd contain all the extra packa
[02:11] <bastid_raZor> fluffman, as they shouldn't.. .torrents open in the torrent program
[02:11] <digitori__> Reng: this will give you the application to uninstall apps you have installed via wine
[02:11] <_ebirtaid> mike not all but more
[02:11] <domor> pelo: everyone keeps saysing in the xorf.cong you have th cnage the type of driver or osmething like that
[02:11] <Reng> digitori__: thnx
[02:11] <desertc> fluffman: gnome-btdownload
[02:11] <digitori__> Reng: your welcome
[02:11] <lockd> okay, soundconverter fails miserably at converting from MIDI to anything
[02:11] <smultron> do new PC laptops (like Vaios) come with a Windows restore CD?
[02:12] <Pelo> domor,  a clean install will get you back to square one,  from there you can do it right , currently you are probably so messed up that it would be impossible to get you back to where you need to be
[02:12] <sfears> how do i upgrade thru konsole
[02:12] <lockd> I can PLAY it in timidity.. but it's godawfully huge
[02:12] <broken> smultron: yea
[02:12] <sfears> apt-get install ubuntu-gutsy
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> domor: we have told you repeatedly how to do it
[02:12] <mike32> ebitaid: so if i will download the dvd version. the add/remove will not connect to the internet anymore?
[02:12] <bastid_raZor> sfears, sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:12] <Rubixhacker> can anyone help me with an apple laptop?
[02:12] <lockd> and export choices are dreadfully lacking
[02:12] <IdleOne> smultron: no you have to make them yourself. ##windows can help you with that
[02:12] <lockd> anyone?
[02:12] <desertc> fluffman: use gconf-editor to increase the maxport by 5-6 for more download streams
[02:12] <digitori__> sfears: what version you on now?
[02:12] <sfears> how can i tell?
[02:12] <smultron> IdleOne: alright, thanks
[02:12] <domor> jack_sparrow: i now have a xorg.conf file what did you say before to change in it if im having booting problems with driver
[02:12] <IdleOne> np
[02:12] <_ebirtaid> mike: it still will depending on what you want to install
[02:13] <Pelo> domor,  you can change the driver in xorg.conf but if you don't know what you are doing you are better off doing  dpkg-reconfigre with will change your xorg.conf file for you properly
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> domor: Paste your xorg to the pastebin and post the link in here so we can help you
[02:13] <_ebirtaid> sfears: cat /etc/issue
[02:13] <domor> pelo: thanks
[02:13] <m1k3> How would I run nautilus as root?
[02:13] <sfears> 7.04
[02:13] <domor> jack_sparrow: how do i do that
[02:13] <digitori__> __ebirtaid:..thanx
[02:13]  * Pelo grabs the gratitud and runs with it 
[02:13] <mike32> ebirtaid: so it does not have all the packages in it, though some?
[02:13] <_ebirtaid> np
[02:13] <_ebirtaid> yes
[02:13] <IMORB> i am having trouble with videos
[02:13] <_ebirtaid> there are like 20k packages available for ubuntu
[02:13]  * IdleOne hands Pelo the e .. you forgot it 
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> domor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:14] <Pelo> m1k3,  gksu nautilus
[02:14] <m1k3> Thank you
[02:14] <m1k3> Now I remember the command
[02:14] <Pelo> IdleOne,  I was just so excited
[02:14] <IMORB> when i play them my laptop shutsdown
[02:14] <m1k3> I used gksudo nautilus..
[02:14] <mike32>  ebirtaid: so it does not have all the packages in it, though some?
[02:14] <IdleOne> Pelo: figured :)
[02:14] <digitori__> sfears: I hope your at least running dapper if your gonna upgrade...I may be wrong but I hope.
[02:14] <central> ok thx i can edit do my changes but how to save it ?
[02:14] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid:  is there a howto on conky? i cant seem to find the app in my menu
[02:14] <_ebirtaid> some yes mike
[02:14] <Pelo> IdleOne,  running compiz ?
[02:14] <sfears> it says 7.04
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> m1k3: Check out thunar for a lighter file manager.
[02:14] <mike32> ok thanks dude
[02:14] <sfears> it's that feisty?
[02:14] <IdleOne> Pelo: nope cant on this machine
[02:14] <digitori__> sfears thats ok go ahead n upgrade
[02:15] <Pelo> sfears, 7.04 is feisty yes
[02:15] <domor> jack_sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44675/
[02:15] <_ebirtaid> fn'stgmavrick: go to the forums and search beautiful conky, all you need to do is edit your ~/.conkyrc file
[02:15] <sfears> apt-get install ubuntu-gutsy
[02:15] <sfears> what's the syntax
[02:15] <_ebirtaid> and then run conky from a terminal
[02:15] <mike32> i like fiesty than the latest one
[02:15] <sfears> or the line command
[02:15] <_ebirtaid> sfears
[02:15] <sfears> or whatever you call it
[02:15] <Pelo> IdleOne,  what player are you using , and is it all videos or just the one or just one format ?
[02:15] <sfears> ??
[02:15] <_ebirtaid> update-manager -c 0d
[02:15] <_ebirtaid> -c -d rather
[02:15] <Pelo> !enter | sfears
[02:15] <ubotu> sfears: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:15] <IMORB> it is any player
[02:16] <sfears> sorry bout that.. bad habbit
[02:16] <xcl> hi all ,who have installed vmware sgx server in 7.10 ????
[02:16] <digitori__> sfears: apply all updates first
[02:16] <Pelo> IMORB,  is this a new problem or as it always been like this ?
[02:16] <sfears> alright
[02:16] <lockd> anyone at all?
[02:16] <IdleOne> Pelo: I use a mix of xmms, listen, muine, totem, I have no favorites i like to install as many as possible and see what I can get used to most
[02:16] <IMORB> new
[02:16] <jwbbccp> got a major noob question that could be easily answered hopefully...
[02:16] <digitori__> sfears: look here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[02:16] <Pelo> lockd,  check in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:16] <IMORB> i have seen this just in the last few days
[02:16] <Pelo> jwbbccp, jsut ask
[02:16] <gogeta> IdleOne xmms ownez you
[02:16] <sfears> will check it out
[02:16] <domor> jack_sparrow: you get that
[02:16] <_ebirtaid> xmms sucks ;)
[02:16] <jwbbccp> can i install ubuntu on an external drive partition and then boot from the external?
[02:16] <gogeta> :-(
[02:17] <Pelo> IMORB, i'm stumpped
[02:17] <_ebirtaid> jwbbccp: yes
[02:17] <_ebirtaid> just move your usb hdd to the top in bios
[02:17] <desertc> jwbbccp: sure, go nuts
[02:17] <stgmavrick> jwbbccp:  does your bios have the support for it?
[02:17] <IdleOne> Pelo: and rhythmbox
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> domor: Looking now.. sorry .. but trying to do too many things atm
[02:17] <w0rm> hello why doesn't desktop effect load my compiz settings at startup?
[02:17] <digitori__> sfears:let me know how you get on
[02:17] <jwbbccp> dunno... major noob...
[02:17] <jwbbccp> mac mini intel core 2 duo
[02:17] <IMORB> Pelo, i am sorry this never happened in feisty but happened three times in gutsy
[02:17] <lockd> Pelo: i've dug and scoured, and I accept even solutions from other Unices.. so I've searched everywhere
[02:17] <Pelo> jwbbccp,  yes you can, I recommend you install grub on the external drive as well, try setting the external as boot partition in the bios while you run the install
[02:17] <Pelo> !install | jwbbccp
[02:17] <ubotu> jwbbccp: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[02:18] <lockd> Pelo: a way to force mencoder to use NO VIDEO would be acceptable
[02:18] <m1k3> :S gksu works but gksu nautilus doesn't make the nautilus window popup..
[02:18] <desertc> jwbbccp: _ebirtaid: he should put the GRUB partition on an internal drive
[02:18] <mneptok> IMORB: have you used anything like Automatix? if so, that may well be contributing to the problem.
[02:18] <_ebirtaid> if he does that it will have to boot from the primary drive in bios
[02:18] <sfears> my computer shut down in the middle of installing upgrades last night, now it hangs when i try to download & upgrade.  Is there a way i can flush everything out and start over?
[02:18] <gogeta>  lockd use vid=null
[02:18] <_ebirtaid> not usb
[02:18] <Pelo> IMORB, check in appearance, see if you have compiz enabled , there are 3 levels I beleive make sure you are completely disabled
[02:18] <gogeta> no video
[02:18] <IMORB> mneptok: no I have not used any of those packages
[02:18] <desertc> Pelo: I like that - put grub in both places.  clever
[02:19] <IMORB> Pelo I will try that
[02:19] <sfears> wait.. looks like it's movinbg
[02:19] <sfears> moving*
[02:19] <mneptok> IMORB: invoke Totem from the command line and see what errors it spews.
[02:19] <desertc> _ebirtaid: I like what pelo said, put it both places
[02:19] <_ebirtaid> that would work also
[02:19] <Pelo> desertc, actualy I mean just put grub on the external,  ie the same hdd you have ubuntu on , that way when you remove the hdd the boot process is not affected
[02:20] <_ebirtaid> pelo: yes :D
[02:20] <IMORB> mneptok: it says jackd not found
[02:20] <desertc> Pelo: Putting it in both places would be more resilient.
[02:20]  * Pelo has two hdd one with windows and one with ubuntu and he can remove either,  the other way , he can't remove any 
[02:20] <sfears> that's not the first time my computer has shut down in the middle of upgrades.  I think linux should have some kind of resume, windows works pretty well
[02:20] <gogeta> desertc agreeed removing a hd and having grub on a non removable = truble
[02:20] <cappicard> this is getting extremely annoying. In KDE, everytime i accidentally hit control-backspace, it kills KDE and I'm left with a beige background with just my cursor.  anyone have this happen?
[02:20] <IdleOne> desertc: then wich grub boots wich hdd?
[02:21] <desertc> IdleOne; whichever is configured in BIOS
[02:21] <gogeta> its ctrl alt backspace
[02:21] <mneptok> IMORB: "totem /path/to/video.mpg"
[02:21] <domor> jack_sparrow: Cheers, there is alsot going on on here cheers thought a much appreciated
[02:21] <gogeta> cappicard its ctrl alt backspace kills x
[02:21] <cappicard> gogeta: I know
[02:21] <Pelo> desertc, not realy,  grub is in two parts,  phase one on the boot sector of the bios boot hdd, phase 2 on which ever partiton ubuntu is located,   if  phase one can'T find phase two you are screwed which is why it is better to have both on the same hdd
[02:21] <cappicard> X is still running,but KDE is dead.
[02:21] <Godscape> Can someone help me convert proprietary video (MPEG, Apple Quicktime) to open source formats (Ogg Theora) please?
[02:22] <dahitokiri> do you guys know of a free library designed for accessing multiple archive formats (7z, rar, zip, tar, gz, bzip2)?
[02:22] <IdleOne> desertc: then he would have to set bios everytime he removes the drive. leaving it on the external and setting bios to boot for usb and then from hdd makes more sense I would think
[02:22] <John_R> what are the advantages of using kde over gnome?
[02:22] <jwbbccp> i'm going to check out those sites the bot sent me to... thx for the help, i'll be back if i have more questions...
[02:22] <cappicard> i have to kill X with ctrl-alt-bksp
[02:22] <gogeta> cappicard you mean gdm is starting back up its supposed to
[02:22] <golem_> fascinating.  desktop cube, emerald, os-x-like theme, awm all working great.. then i click on the workspace switcher in the dock, and the dock loses all icons, the top menu disappears, and no windows are display.  alt-f2 works, though.  does this ring a bell w/ anyone? using restricted ati driver and xgl
[02:22] <digitori__> sfears: did you apply the upgrades first?
[02:22] <pgan> Hi - my eth0 connection does not come up automatically; I have to run dhclient when I log in.  /var/log/syslog says NetowrkManager disables it: http://pastebin.com/m65148fa0  What can I do?
[02:22] <IMORB> mneptok: video plays but still says jackd not found
[02:22] <Pelo> Godscape,  google or search the forum for  mov2avi
[02:22] <digitori__> sfears: sorry the updates
[02:22] <desertc> Pelo: Phase two happens when you select a kernel, so you just don't select the kernel when the drive is removed.  ?
[02:22] <mneptok> IMORB: no shutdown?
[02:22] <Pelo> Godscape, or some such
[02:22] <cappicard> gogeta: after i kill the X server, yes.
[02:22] <domor> jack_sparrow: what you think?
[02:22] <_ebirtaid> jhon_r: kde is more like windows
[02:22] <_ebirtaid> and sucks
[02:22] <IMORB> mneptok: i am having this problem once in 3-4 days
[02:22] <Godscape> Pelo: ffmpeg2theora?
[02:22] <_ebirtaid> ;)
[02:22] <cappicard> but i keep hitting control-backspace
[02:23] <computer_01> hi, id like to have dual boot, windows vista and ubuntu. which one should i install first or it does not matter?
[02:23] <desertc> IdleOne: Your BIOS doesn't let you set a boot order?
[02:23] <cabldevil> i am formating a 2 drive 800 gig lvm what is the best file system to use ext3 or ext2 or something else?
[02:23] <gogeta> cappicard oh its not killing gdm
[02:23] <cappicard> leaving me with a useless session until i restart X
[02:23] <cappicard> no
[02:23] <IMORB> mneptok: no shutdown
[02:23] <sfears> no.. i didn't, i went straight to distro upgrade
[02:23] <mneptok> IMORB: that's somewhat reassuring
[02:23] <cappicard> gdm returns to the login sreen
[02:23] <sfears> i figured they'd all be packaged in there with it
[02:23] <cappicard> screen
[02:23] <Pelo> desertc, phase two is the grub menu.lst file wich is located in the ubuntu partiton under /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:23] <Oli```> cd #sh
[02:23] <Oli```> doh >_<
[02:23] <mneptok> IMORB: and it plays despite the error?
[02:23] <gogeta> cappicard its supposed to
[02:23] <digitori__> right whos gonna merge the best of gnome with best of kde
[02:23] <desertc> Pelo: Oooohh...
[02:23] <pgan> computer_01: I would guess you have to install Vista first, Ubuntu second
[02:23] <IMORB> mneptok: i know i wanted to know is this coz of the hd issues
[02:23] <IMORB> mneptok: yes it does play
[02:24] <gogeta> cappicard what you whant it to do crash to text?
[02:24] <pgan> Previous versions of Windows would wipe out the disk when they installed
[02:24] <mneptok> IMORB: what HD issues?
[02:24] <computer_01> pgan, thanks. can any1 confirm this? :)
[02:24] <domor> hmmm
[02:24] <digitori__> ah gotta go folks
[02:24] <kode> computer_01: yes windows first
[02:24] <desertc> Pelo: Well, just copy that file to both drives.  That's not too bad.
[02:24] <domor> just out of interest anyone had any rpoblesm with "restricted vido drivers" and booting
[02:24] <IMORB> mneptok: I was reading on launchpad about hd spinning too much
[02:24] <computer_01> ok thnx
[02:24] <Pelo> desertc, phase one only points to one files on one partition
[02:24] <mneptok> IMORB: you own a laptop?
[02:25] <kode> you're welcome computer_01
[02:25] <pgan> computer_01, ... but why would you even want to have WIndows weigh you down??
[02:25] <IMORB> mneptok: yes i do wn a laptop
[02:25] <desertc> Pelo: So you have two disks, two boot loaders, and two /boot partitions....
[02:25] <IMORB> mneptok: it is a toshiba
[02:25] <mneptok> IMORB: and it's not plugged into the wall?
[02:25] <cappicard> gogeta: no. i want KDE to stop crashing when i hit ctrl-backspace.
[02:25] <computer_01> pgan, its for a customer :\
[02:25] <desertc> Pelo: Depending on which disk the BIOS chooses, will be set up to boot and select either disk
[02:25] <gogeta> cappicard dont hit ctrl backspace
[02:25] <gogeta> lol
[02:25] <IMORB> mneptok: it is and I have my battery out
[02:25] <mneptok> IMORB: then the issue does not affect you
[02:25] <IdleOne> odd key combo ctrl-backspace
[02:25] <cappicard> gogeta: i keep hitting it accidentally when i type fast.
[02:25] <computer_01> i tried telling them to only use ubuntu but you know....
[02:26] <cappicard> IdleOne: it should not cause kde to die
[02:26] <gogeta> cappicard well thats a x-kill command
[02:26] <IMORB> mneptok: oh ok then it must be my heatsink
[02:26] <computer_01> so i have to slit the HD and have a dual boot
[02:26] <IMORB> mneptok: not my laptop then
[02:26] <Pelo> desertc, I guess you can have an internal hdd with it's own phase one , pointing to phase two on that same internal hdd, with a menu.lst file on that hdd that has an entry poiting to a kernel on the external hdd and vice versa on the external hdd,  if you like things complicated
[02:27] <gogeta> cappicard get a penny or some tape and a pice a paper marked no lol
[02:27] <IMORB> mneptok: thanks a lot
[02:27]  * Pelo doesnt, realy want to talk to desertc  anymore he just makes simple things realy complicated 
[02:27] <IMORB> Pelo: thanks, I think it is my hardware issue
[02:27] <mneptok> IMORB: the jackd error is safely ignored.
[02:27] <pgan> cappicard:, is it KDE or X which crashes?
[02:27] <Pelo> IMORB, I didn'T help much but I'm a sucker for gratitude  so I'll take it
[02:27] <cappicard> KDE
[02:27] <gogeta> pgan: hes hitting the kill command
[02:28] <Godscape> How can I make VLC the default application for DVDs and videos?
[02:28] <cappicard> X is still running.
[02:28] <IMORB> mneptok: yes it is safely accepted
[02:28] <IMORB> mneptok: what is jackd
[02:28] <pgan> then I dunno, sorry
[02:28] <cappicard> i have no choice but to restart X at that point
[02:28] <Pelo> Godscape, menu > sytem> prefs > removable media
[02:28] <klos> hm is there a xchat totem now playing plugin ??? :)
[02:28] <desertc> Pelo: The added complexity is to accommodate whether the external drive is booting or not, and when it is removed, the computer isn't disabled.  It's not any more complex than setting up a bootable USB stick.
[02:28] <gogeta> cappicard i would check your keybord maybe the alt key is stuck down
[02:28] <gogeta> ctrl backspace shouldent kill it
[02:29] <gogeta> alt needs to be pressed
[02:29] <scguy318> the combination is Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, yes
[02:29] <Pelo> desertc, what you need to consider is , what do you ahve on the internal hdd ? jsut windows ? then forget about putting grub on that , it won'T need it , just put grub on the external and boot from the external when you have to
[02:29] <Pelo> afk
[02:31] <crazyman> hello :)
[02:31] <Godscape> Thanks, Pelo!
[02:31] <pgan> cappicard: try using the DontZap option for your keyboard.  See "man xorg"
[02:31] <gogeta> pgan but wouldent that disable killing from keybord
[02:31] <crazyman> i have a question. when I try to mount the windows partition from gnome it says it can't and gives me an error msg that if i want to mount it i could force mount it ... any ideas?
[02:32] <pgan> Hi - my eth0 connection does not come up automatically; I have to run dhclient when I log in.  /var/log/syslog says NetowrkManager disables it: http://pastebin.com/m65148fa0  What can I do?
[02:32] <gogeta> pgan you need that sometimes
[02:32] <scguy318> crazyman: are you dual-booting? make sure you cleanly shutdown Windows
[02:32] <gogeta> pgan cant he just change the hot keys from that combo to another maybe ctrl alt delete
[02:32] <stgmavrick> lol so used to /join #gentoo, took me a minute to realize where i was
[02:33] <domor> Jack_Sparrow: If you can help me please email me, little_lethal@hotmail.com
[02:33] <gogeta> oh wait
[02:33] <pgan> gogeta: yes, I was guesing that the key combo was killing X
[02:33] <domor> im off
[02:33] <gogeta> pgan ctrl alt home
[02:33] <domor> bye
[02:33] <crazyman> scguy318, yea maybe thats the issue im going to double check thanks!
[02:33] <gogeta> pgan cant he remap it
[02:33] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid:  its funny, that guide says most users cant get conky to work properly but i dont see whats so difficult about it
[02:34] <pgan> gogeta and cappicard: I good idea, I don't know KDE.  cappicard - check for that
[02:35] <fluffman> ok, so I realized my torrenting problem...I imported my old firefox settings from Kubuntu, and it was listing Ktorrent.  I removed those settings, and my torrents opened in the default BitTorrent client, but they aren't downloading.  Where are the options for BitTorrent so I can enter my forwarded ports from my router?
[02:35] <gogeta> pgan well having dontzap can be bad swence if x does lock he whont be able to force kill it easly
[02:35] <_ebirtaid> fn'stgmavrick: it is pretty straight forward
[02:35] <gogeta> pgan well i guess sudo killall x would work
[02:35] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid:  since i have my top bar enabled, i want to edit # Gap between borders of screen and text
[02:35] <stgmavrick> gap_x 10
[02:35] <stgmavrick> gap_y 10
[02:35] <stgmavrick>  correct?
[02:35] <stgmavrick> sorry about that!
[02:36] <_ebirtaid> yep
[02:36] <pgan> gogeta, cappicard: alright, check if you can change the KDE bindings first
[02:36] <_ebirtaid> depending which axis you want it to be different on
[02:36] <pgan> He can also use Alt+F1 to get to a console, then killall X
[02:36] <gogeta> yea i said that
[02:37] <desertc> fluffman: use gconf-editor to increase the maxport by 5-6 for more download streams
[02:37] <pgan> Sorry, Control+Alt+F1
[02:37] <gogeta> but i have had some nasty locks befor not even that worked
[02:37] <Dethlok> how can i make my gdesklets icon show in my taskbar?
[02:37] <gogeta> couldent get to text
[02:37] <gogeta> but in most cases yea killall works
[02:38] <pgan> My eth0 connection does not come up automatically; I have to run dhclient when I log in.  /var/log/syslog says NetowrkManager disables it: http://pastebin.com/m65148fa0  Ideas anyone?
[02:38] <s00p> hi
[02:38] <untung> hello
[02:38] <Dethlok> how can i make my gdesklets icon show in my taskbar?
[02:39] <untung> i have ubuntu 7.04 loaded into my virtual machine using vmware
[02:39] <gogeta> Dethlok just add em
[02:39] <s00p> vm's are for wimps! :P
[02:39] <Pelo> Dethlok, it usualy doesn't and when it does ppl ask how to make it go away , why do you want it ?
[02:39] <_ebirtaid> thats good untung
[02:39] <untung> how can i upgrade to unbuntu 7.1? should i use download or use the cd?
[02:39] <Dethlok> its easier to turn it off with that little icon =)
[02:39] <_ebirtaid> download is easier
[02:39] <gogeta> lol
[02:40] <cappicard> ok... it's shift-backspace that is killing kde
[02:40] <Dethlok> i just did the update and it worked great for me
[02:40] <Pelo> untung,  I recommend you get the alt cd or the dvd and upgrade from that , it's actualy a bit quicker
[02:40] <gogeta> Pelo people ask on how to make windows go away to hehe
[02:40] <Pelo> gogeta, linux is the only AV i found that gets rid of windows
[02:41] <gogeta> Pelo hehehe
[02:41] <cappicard> oh wait... xgl has shift-backspace mapped. wtf
[02:41]  * Pelo just needs to convince his brother
[02:41] <untung> pelo: in my case should i reinstall using the cd?
[02:41] <Home-User_> Hello
[02:41] <Home-User_> I've got an Xsession error
[02:41] <_ebirtaid> why reinstall?
[02:41] <umarzuki> haha..untung=luck
[02:41] <gogeta> Pelo man thers a markting sceme there conserder it stolen
[02:41] <Pelo> untung, no you can upgrade using the cd , but you can clean install to if you want
[02:41] <Home-User_> its quite a long read so could someone take a look at it please?
[02:42] <gogeta> Pelo linux antivires effectly gets rid of the windows virise
[02:43] <boontoo> i want grub to be able to let me choose which default language to boot into anyone kno how?
[02:43] <Pelo> gogeta, the slogan : " Mcaffe coudln't to it , Symantec couldn'T do it , Avast couldn't do it, only linux can cure your computer of Windows"
[02:43] <cappicard> ok... wtf decided to assign shift-backspace to restart xgl needs to be shot
[02:43] <gogeta> Pelo hehe
[02:43] <Pelo> boontoo,  your best bet would be to ask in #grub, but I donT, think it is possible , you can choose the default language from the ubuntu login screen however
[02:43] <gogeta> Pelo 2008 edtion now removes the vista trojen
[02:44] <cappicard> there we go. if i assign a default layout to my keyboard, it effectively disables that key sequence.
[02:44] <cappicard> is that in the FAQ?
[02:44] <boontoo> Pelo: ok wel is there a way that i can use a different language automatically depending on who is logged in? eg for me its english but when my gf logs in its japanese
[02:44] <Pelo> gogeta, I got a coworker to try gutsy,  I 'm gonna have news about it tomorrow,  he was gonna format his hdd anyway , he had a bunch fo viris the couldn'T get rid of
[02:45] <gogeta> Pelo hehe bet that worked out great
[02:45] <gogeta> Pelo all dead in 1 swoop
[02:45] <Pelo> boontoo,  I think that is default,  meaning  language is part of the user's prefs
[02:45] <boontoo> Pelo ok
[02:46] <Pelo> gogeta, the coworker in question is fairly green,  I hope he can manage it on his own,  but since he's clean installing anyway and using he whole hdd it shouldn'T be too bad
[02:46] <BADKITTY> Hello maytees
[02:47] <_ebirtaid> pelo: is he computer literate at all?
[02:47] <Jeruvy> I moved my hard disk from one system to another.  Everything seems to be working ok, but I'd like to drop the res of the screen to 1024x768, but it doesn't respond.  If I edit the xorg.conf and remove the not wanted display setting and restart X would that fix it?
[02:47] <gogeta> Pelo thats all auto partating then
[02:47] <gogeta> Pelo 1 click
[02:47] <Home-User_> (process:5301): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not a supported use of GTK+. You must create a helper program instead. For further details, see: http://www.gtk.org/setuid.html
[02:47] <Home-User_> Refusing to initialize GTK+. (process:5305): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not a supported use of GTK+. You must create a helper program instead. For further details, see: http://www.gtk.org/setuid.html Refusing to initialize GTK+.
[02:47] <pgan> Hi - my eth0 connection does not come up automatically; I have to run dhclient when I log in.  /var/log/syslog says NetowrkManager disables it: http://pastebin.com/m65148fa0  Ideas anyone?
[02:47] <Home-User_> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission denied
[02:47] <Home-User_> Sorry to spam that
[02:47] <Pelo> gogeta, pretty much,  the only quesiton is , did he have the guts to try
[02:47] <Home-User_> But that's the error I'm getting
[02:47] <LjL> !paste > Home-User_    (Home-User_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:47] <BADKITTY> Jeruvy: maybe if you reconfigure X??
[02:47] <munk_> where is the list of programs that start with Ubuntu?
[02:47] <munk_> I wanna add one
[02:48] <LjL> !startup > munk_    (munk_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:48] <munk_> thanks
[02:48] <tgelter> hey all. does anyone know of a command-line torrent client that supports selecting portions of a torrent to download?
[02:48] <Pelo> Home-User_, is this a fresh install ?
[02:48] <Home-User_> No
[02:48] <BADKITTY> munk_: that start with ubuntu? You mean like load when ubuntu starts?
[02:48] <Home-User_> Its an upgrade
[02:48] <Home-User_> Fiesty Fawn -> Gutsy Gibbon
[02:48] <Jeruvy> BADKITTY: I can try that thx
[02:48] <aib> i have my own apt repository, and upon installing Gusty Gibbon, when you add my repository, you get the following message: please insert the disc labeled 'Kubuntu 7.10 _Gusty Gibbon_ - Release i386' in the drive  '/cdrom/' and press enter
[02:48] <gogeta> Pelo everytime you install vista god kills a kitten everytime you install linux a kitten lives
[02:48] <Home-User_> Pelo, send a PM to me
[02:48] <_ebirtaid> tgelter: transmission or deluge
[02:48] <aib> what does the ubuntu disc have to do with my repository?
[02:48] <Home-User_> And i'll show you the error
[02:48] <munk_> BADKITTY: Yup, LjL got it
[02:48] <Pelo> Home-User_,  upgrades are not 100% reliable ,  if you get a ms like this I would suggest you back up your data and clean install
[02:49] <Pelo> Home-User_,  I don'T do pm , sorry
[02:49] <tgelter> _ebirtaid: those are GUI apps..unless they can be run on the command line as well...
[02:49] <Home-User_> damn.
[02:49] <|neon|> i'm having a strange issue i can use my computer for hours almost an entire day as i do sometimes and it works  great, if i leave it on for some reason it will reboot after a while  is there is anything i can do?
[02:49] <Home-User_> This is the 2nd time the PC had to be reinstalled.
[02:49] <druggist> question about netowrking
[02:49] <Home-User_> So there's no solution to it eh?
[02:49] <druggist> i need to uninstall madwifi drivers
[02:49] <_ebirtaid> you didnt specify cli ;p
[02:49] <druggist> how do i do it
[02:49] <BADKITTY> |neon|: Perhaps your cpu is overheating is it an older tower or a laptop?
[02:50] <tgelter> _ebirtaid: I did...reread..
[02:50] <druggist> i typed .madwifi-unload.bash but it says wlan_scan+sta is in use
[02:50] <BADKITTY> druggist: did you look in synaptic?
[02:50] <_ebirtaid> ahhh my bad
[02:50] <ihope_> Is ulimit -Hu 20 supposed to set the current terminal's hard process limit to 20? It gives the message "bash: ulimit: max user processes: cannot modify limit: Invalid argument" and does nothing.
[02:50] <BADKITTY> druggist: eh nm
[02:50] <tgelter> so does anyone know of a cli torrent client that supports selecting parts of a torrent to download?
[02:50] <rockets> Anybody know where plugins go for firefox 3 (NOT extensions, plugins)
[02:51] <druggist> do what?
[02:51] <pgan> neon: have you seen it reboot?
[02:51] <|neon|> BADKITTY: water cooled rig
[02:51] <Pelo> rockets, probablay in ~/.mozilla/...
[02:51] <rockets> Pelo, Yes, I looked there.
[02:51] <|neon|> besides it works great while i am using it no matter how long
[02:52] <BADKITTY> |neon|: OIC well that shouldn't be the problem then ... how is the hard drive?? New / old .. good condition?
[02:52] <gogeta> |neon| lol water cooled no wonder why its a overclocked unstable
[02:52] <|neon|> sunday i was on it for almost 9 hours without a hitch , i lefted unattended for about an hour and it rebooted
[02:53] <BADKITTY> druggist: I think Im on crack.. the drivers wouldn't be showing in synaptic would they?
[02:53] <gogeta> |neon| well i told ya why when you overclock you lose stabilty and have heat isues
[02:53] <gogeta> |neon| and reduce your prossers life by a larg amount
[02:54] <gogeta> |neon| next time dont be so cheap just buy a faster prosser
[02:54] <progvb> who does know about CSS??
[02:54] <BADKITTY> What is the best media player for ubuntu?
[02:54] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid: is it not possible to desktop items over top of conky?
[02:54] <|neon|> you aremissing my point it was an overheating issue it will do it while i use it like i mentioned sunday for 9 hhhrs straight it reboots when i am not using the computer within a few minutes of not using it
[02:54] <LjL> !best > BADKITTY    (BADKITTY, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:54] <gogeta> |neon| well your prossers overclock i whont be suprised if it dies soon
[02:55] <BADKITTY> LjL: alright well popular then...
[02:55] <RiM> HELP ANYONE HELP  I suddenly lost my gnome desktop, when I boot up I get an xfe desktop. The last thing I did to the system was update it.
[02:55] <_ebirtaid> fn'stgmavrick: what do you mean?
[02:55] <LjL> BADKITTY: popular as in "hey, you 1156 people in this channel, tell me all what you're using for a media player"?
[02:55] <phaedra> RiM, Check the default in the login...
[02:55] <gogeta> RiM just go to session on your login screen and sitch it back to gnome
[02:55] <progvb> who does know about CSS??
[02:55] <|neon|> gogeta: you keep refering to my cpu been oveclcok but have not adress my question, my temps are well within limits trust me on that one
[02:55] <_ebirtaid> ljl whats with the floddbots
[02:55] <BADKITTY> LjL: sure .. are y ou trying to make my day more miserable then it already was?
[02:56] <LjL> _ebirtaid: they're fine. they're a test.
[02:56] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid:  i have a file on my desktop i tried to drag over top of my conky read out...the file went behind conky and i wasnt able to see the file anymore
[02:56] <gogeta> |neon| ill repeate your cpu is now unstabl
[02:56] <DRtuxthepenguin> !i686
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i686 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <DRtuxthepenguin> !386
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 386 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <DRtuxthepenguin> !686
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 686 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <DRtuxthepenguin> !pentium3
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pentium3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <Pelo> DRtuxthepenguin, what do you need to know ?
[02:56] <jrib> !msgthebot | DRtuxthepenguin
[02:56] <ubotu> DRtuxthepenguin: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[02:56] <gogeta> |neon| you get all kinds of weardness when you mess with them
[02:56] <_ebirtaid> fn'stgmavrick: ah, yea conky uses pseudo transparency so it will do that
[02:57] <gogeta> |neon| isue = hardware
[02:57] <_ebirtaid> you may want to try messing with own window settings it may help
[02:57] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid:  bummer
[02:57] <DRtuxthepenguin> Pelo: is ubuntu optimized for pentium 3
[02:57] <ridge> i'm looking for a good editor for Python....i don't like IDLE....
[02:57] <Pelo> DRtuxthepenguin, usg the i386 version
[02:57] <Pelo> use
[02:57] <DRtuxthepenguin> ok
[02:57] <pgan> Hi - my eth0 connection does not come up automatically; I have to run dhclient when I log in.  /var/log/syslog says NetowrkManager disables it: http://pastebin.com/m65148fa0  Ideas anyone?
[02:57] <Pelo> ridge,  ask in #python for their opinion
[02:57] <fajar2> !mp3
[02:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <BADKITTY> LjL: I'm looking for something like Amarok but less KDEish
[02:58] <ridge> Pelo: i don't know how to join #python.....irc is saying that i need to be identified, or something like that
[02:58] <phaedra> pgan, Run network-manager and re-enable it.
[02:58] <LjL> !info exaile > BADKITTY
[02:58] <_ebirtaid> badkitty: exaile
[02:58] <Pelo> pgan,  you might be able to chagne the default in menu > sytem >admin > network
[02:58] <_ebirtaid> ha beat you
[02:58] <|neon|> i agree oc'ing the cpu can create issues if i used the computer for 9 hrs withouit a hicup and then when i do not touch the keyboard for any number of minutes it reboots itself and this can be replicated as i found out the computer had rebooted today then i used it for about 2 hrs nothing happened , then i went away for about 1/2 hr to when i returned the computer had rebooted since then almost 3
[02:58] <LjL> _ebirtaid: not on my screen.
[02:58] <BADKITTY> ebirtaid: exaile vs . rhythmbox is it??
[02:59] <|neon|> hrs
[02:59] <_ebirtaid> wack ljl
[02:59] <Pelo> ridge, type  /nickserv help register for info on registering, then you will be able to join
[02:59] <JeffD> since my notebook went on battery power, my external drives are mounted with umask 077; how to fix?
[02:59] <_ebirtaid> badkitty how do you mean
[02:59] <ridge> Pelo, thank you :)
[02:59] <gogeta> |neon| thats called being unstable wile idle
[02:59] <JeffD> one of these drives is my mail store, so now Thunderbird won't work
[02:59] <BADKITTY> _ebirtaid: what are the differences? and I was asking if that was the name of one .. rhythmbox?
[03:00] <gogeta> |neon| overclocking weardness can be anywhere
[03:00] <pgan> phaedra: re-run it once?  Is that supposed to make it connect by default?
[03:00] <tatterdemalian> Hi!
[03:00] <_ebirtaid> rythmbox is a gnome media player, yes; exaile is also just more amarok-ish
[03:00] <_ebirtaid> I dont use either personally
[03:00] <pgan> pelo: the default is now roaming mode.  What should it be?
[03:00] <Pelo> JeffD,  changing power source shold not affect your fstab settings,  see if you have a backup of yoru fstab file and try restoring it
[03:00] <BADKITTY> _ebirtaid: what do you use?
[03:00] <_ebirtaid> mpd
[03:01] <Pelo> pgan, I'm not an expert but try jsut setting it to eth1 which is the one you want I beleive
[03:01] <BADKITTY> _ebirtaid: any reason?
[03:01] <_ebirtaid> when I log out of x it still plays
[03:01] <gogeta> |neon| i would look up your prosser spechs on all the weardness you get wile overclocking
[03:01] <gogeta> |neon| thats where you will find a fix
[03:01] <RiM> I tried switching users, and I tried logging out and relogging on. I did not see any option to switch back to gnome, or for that matter any option at all pertaining to logins
[03:01] <pipegeek> hmm
[03:01] <pipegeek> the noscript plugin package in gutsy depends on iceweasel, rather than firefox, and so won't install.
[03:01] <Pelo> pgan,  is this an upgrade to gutsy ?  I know I had to redo my network config because it ddint, import properly , you might want to consider doing that if you upgraded
[03:02] <pipegeek> that seems silly.
[03:02] <RiM> Is there a command to switch from a terminal?
[03:02] <aib> why does Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon have a line in /etc/apt/sources.list that causes it to look for packages in the installation CD by default?!
[03:02] <pgan> Pelo: thanks.  Perhaps you can compare with yours.
[03:02] <BADKITTY> _ebirtaid: ahh I see.. is that the main reason? I can't see myself spending so much time on this box outside of X
[03:02] <JeffD> Pelo: apparently it's hotplug rather than fstab-related - any ideas? fstab has nothing about the external drives
[03:02] <Pelo> pgan, I jsut have a basic dsl connection, nothing you can realy compare with
[03:02] <|neon|> gogeta: i will do this again tonight , i will boot into windows and run prime 95 on all 4 cores and i guarantee you tomorrow morning when i get up the computer will have not rebooted then i will let it sit all day at idle while on windows and again it will not reboot , now i am not saying windows is better i am jsut saying that maybe i am missing something
[03:02] <phaedra> pgan, No, you run it to set eth0 back up.  System>Administration>Network
[03:02] <tatterdemalian> Why does avahi keep stealing my IPv4 protocol? For that matter, HOW does it keep stealing it?
[03:02] <ToddEDM> hey, any of you guys notice that since installing Ubuntu on a laptop, that the screen is not as bright as it was in XP?
[03:02] <_ebirtaid> badkitty:  it also has an mpd extension and command line controls which is nice for me
[03:02] <r00723r0> how do i set a download speed limit in rtorrent?
[03:02] <_ebirtaid> I dont need a gui for my music player its just preference
[03:02] <adorablepuppy> !dvd
[03:02] <pgan> Pelo, me too.
[03:02] <Pelo> JeffD, sorry I don't know , maybe change the drive owner ?
[03:02] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:02] <gogeta> |neon| unstable wile idel
[03:03] <JeffD> Pelo: how?
[03:03] <gogeta> |neon| if you keep it busy it whont reboot
[03:03] <_ebirtaid> errr conky extension
[03:03] <ToddEDM> !universe
[03:03] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:03] <|neon|> gogeta: i been doing this for a while trust me is not hardware related
[03:03] <gogeta> |neon| windows normaly always has something taxing it a bit
[03:03] <Pelo> pgan,  I though you were wifi ? just redo your  pppoecomf then and reenter your data
[03:03] <adorablepuppy> :) That bot is useful.
[03:03] <pgan> Pelo and phaedra: Under the Network Settings dialog, I have a wired connection and a modem connection...
[03:03] <Pelo> JeffD,  sudo chown /dev/whatever  user:user I think
[03:04] <JeffD> Pelo: oh, yeah. (*thwack*). Let me check
[03:04] <xyyzzz> How do I zip something from the command line?
[03:04] <gogeta> |neon| its in the power managment i would assume
[03:04] <Pelo> pgan,  should be in wired, if you donT' have a wifi just uncheck the roaming setting you don'T need it
[03:04] <BADKITTY> _ebirtaid: do you know if exaile requires mysql?
[03:04] <phaedra> pgan, It's the wired...
[03:04] <pgan> Pelo, I tried that, but NetworkManager still starts up
[03:04] <gogeta> |neon| trys to shutdown the prosser to save power sence its doing knothing and couses it to mess up
[03:04] <|neon|> gogeta: i unistalled the powernowd already
[03:05] <ToddEDM> any of you guys notice that since installing Ubuntu on a laptop, that the screen is not as bright as it was in XP?
[03:05] <gogeta> |neon| turn same feature on windows bet it will rebooot
[03:05] <JeffD> Pelo: currently set uid root and gid plugdev; is that what it should be?
[03:05] <Pelo> pgan,  network manager must start,  it's jsut starting wrong
[03:05] <ToddEDM> !brightness
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brightness - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <gogeta> |neon| linux uses more then powernow
[03:05] <gogeta> |neon| it also uses acpi
[03:05] <pgan> phaedra: under the Wired properties, I have roaming mode enabled
[03:05] <gogeta> |neon| and apm
[03:05] <Pelo> JeffD, that's a bit over my head
[03:05] <|neon|> gogeta: now we are getting to my question
[03:05] <_ebirtaid> badkitty: dunno
[03:05] <|neon|> how can i turn those off
[03:06] <phaedra> pgan, Do you have the wireless icon in the top right of the screen?
[03:06] <gogeta> |neon| boot commands
[03:06] <JeffD> whoever was asking about brightness - yes, it did that for me the first time, too; use your Fn keys to adjust and it should stay adjusted after you reboot
[03:06] <gogeta> |neon| acpi=off apm=off noapic
[03:06] <pgan> phaedra: no, I don't have a wireless card either
[03:06] <JeffD> thanks anyway, all.....
[03:06] <gogeta> linux will have no power mangment
[03:06] <xyyzzz> What command do you use to zip something from the command line? Which man page should I be reading?
[03:06] <Pelo> xyyzzz, man tar
[03:07] <xyyzzz> Pelo, thanks, will read that now =+)
[03:07] <|neon|> gogeta: will try that once i do some reading on them and see i will 1st try regular speeds on the cpu+memory before i go turning off stuff
[03:07] <gogeta> |neon| just add em to grub
[03:07] <Pelo> xyyzzz,  there is also a man zip
[03:07] <fiveiron> anyone know why modprobe would say a module isnt found even after i successfully do a "insmod" on it, and lsmod shows that it is loaded?
[03:07] <pgan> Pelo: when I disable roaming mode, it NetworkManager still starts and disables eth0.
[03:07] <phaedra> pgan, Okay...  Can you bring up the network settings manager and select the wired connection then click on properties?
[03:07] <Pelo> fiveiron, spelling mistake ?
[03:08] <fiveiron> Pelo, nope
[03:08] <gogeta> |neon| well it seems your overclock cant go idel without crashing
[03:08] <fiveiron> I can screenshot the entire process for you
[03:08] <tatterdemalian> Can anyone help me? I tried asking on #avahi, and they just told me "Ubuntu sucks, use FreeBSD instead"
[03:08] <fiveiron> if you'd like
[03:08] <RiM> HELP I lost my gnome screen, do not know how. IN response to a prior questio n I tried to get it back by switching users but it did not work, neither did logging out/backin and neither did a reboot. Does anyone know the terminal command to start up gnome? I know there was one in redhat, don't remember it and don't know it it exists in ubuntu
[03:08] <gogeta> |neon| probly stable at normel modes
[03:08] <pgan> phaedra: OK, Network Settingss manager is up, selected "wired connection" and Properties button
[03:09] <|neon|> gogeta: it is a possibility that's why i will try running nnormal speeds for a while and see how it behaves
[03:09] <Pelo> RiM, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start ?
[03:09] <BADKITTY> What is the package that allows ubuntu to access stuff on NTFS partitions
[03:09] <Pelo> BADKITTY, ntfs-3g
[03:09] <phaedra> pgan, Deselect the Enable roaming mode
[03:09] <BADKITTY> Pelo: Does Gutsy come packaged with it already?
[03:09] <pgan> Deselected
[03:09] <LjL> !ntfs-3g > BADKITTY    (BADKITTY, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:10] <pgan> then selecting Configuration: Automatic (DHCP)
[03:10] <aib> why does Gibbon keep have `cdrom' as a source of packages after installation? how many people keep the CD in after installation?
[03:10] <BADKITTY> thanks LjL
[03:10] <Pelo> BADKITTY, gutsy is suppose to read/write ntfs by default out of the box, but I upgraded so I can'T verify
[03:10] <desertc> aib: people in poor countries
[03:10] <phaedra> pgan, Under connection properties use the pulldown to select dhcp.
[03:10] <tatterdemalian> Is Gutsy suffering from the same avahi bug Edgy had? If so, why can't I remove it without making my system crash?
[03:10] <tonytt> has anyone encountered a problum installing ubuntu with a particualar ati video card ?
[03:10] <stgmavrick> _ebirtaid:  hey what does it mean if i want "conky to be forked in the background"?
[03:11] <gogeta> |neon| linux behaves drffrently in windows so just couse overclocking is stable in windows dosent mean it will be in linux
[03:11] <Pelo> aib, I keep the dvd in, it saves on bandwith when I install progs I don'T never tried before
[03:11] <tatterdemalian> Pelo: Mine did OTB
[03:11] <gogeta> |neon| nature of the trade
[03:11] <Pelo> tatterdemalian, thanks for comfirming
[03:11] <gnychis> can somebody help me with a problem pertaining to a apt-get install -f error? http://rafb.net/p/6YQCeK50.html ... i would greatly appreciate it, as it is blocking the installation of any packages
[03:11] <aib> where do I complain about this behavior?
[03:12] <softoninox> howto repair file mail.log?
[03:12] <phaedra> pgan, connection settings rather...
[03:12] <|neon|> gogeta: since i am new to linux i will take that to face value :) and run the system at stock speeds for a while instead of oc'ed
[03:12] <techie> .net 6667
[03:12] <RiM_> HELP Again I lost my gnome interface I tried starting it via the terminal, received a message telling me it was stsrting up, then nothing. Even lost my irc connection and had to reconnect
[03:12] <tatterdemalian> It did fine transferring files from a Vista partition, which is the latest NTFS version
[03:12] <NightDragon> Hello, i am trying to enable 3d Acceleration (and more importanlty, compiz-fusion) on ubuntu gutsy, and i went through the tutorial on how to do it , did all the steps, still doesnt work. I own an Radeon mobility M6 LY, and my machine is a Sony Vaio PCG-Z1VA. any help? :)
[03:12] <ToddEDM> any of you guys notice that since installing Ubuntu on a laptop, that the screen is not as bright as it was in XP?
[03:12] <Pelo> aib, what behavior ? if you donT' like the cd used as a source jsut remove it from the source list,  menu > sytem < admin> sofware sources, uncheck it on the first tab
[03:13] <gogeta> |neon| but the 3 commands i gave you for for adding to grub kills the power managment meaning the prosser will run at full power at al times
[03:13] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: What is it doing / not doing?
[03:13] <Pelo> g'night folks
[03:13] <BADKITTY> Pelo: night.. thanks
[03:13] <gogeta> |neon| linux acully will clock down a prosser via softwhere to save power
[03:13] <softoninox> Hello, howto repair file mail.log?
[03:13] <sfears> i had problems on my gateway laptop after i installed ubuntu.. it would shut down becuase it was too hot
[03:13] <gogeta> |neon| i bet that overclock doesent like that at all
[03:13] <tatterdemalian> ToddEDM: Not really, but I came in from Vista... screen seems mighty bright to me, maybe it's an acpi problem?
[03:14] <NightDragon> badkitty: it wont enable "extra visual effects"
[03:14] <scguy318> sfears: is it actually really hot or is it misreading the temperature sensor(s)?
[03:14] <ToddEDM> hmmmmm
[03:14] <pgan> hitting OK and closing
[03:14] <sfears> really hot
[03:14] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: Did you install the package already?
[03:14] <sfears> burn my leg hot
[03:14] <ToddEDM> lol
[03:14] <scguy318> sfears: ah, probably some fans aren't getting turned on or ze daemons
[03:14] <NightDragon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246746
[03:14] <BADKITTY> Hey sfears :-P
[03:14] <scguy318> or CPU scalin
[03:14] <|neon|> gogeta: thx for the great info i will do some reading and try a few of the things you suggested
[03:14] <sfears> hello BADKITTY
[03:14] <NightDragon> i followed what was in that tutorial on the advice of you guys.
[03:14] <tatterdemalian> My laptop does do some funny things, like not dim the screen on battery power when I tell it to...
[03:15] <NightDragon> when i try to hit the "extra" radio button on visual effects, the following error occurs:
[03:15] <NightDragon> "Desktop effects could not be enabled"
[03:15] <tatterdemalian> And, of course, randomly disconnects me from the internet when avahi steals my IPv4 protocol, and nobody believes me when I tell them about it
[03:16] <YouKnowMe> I can't get any sound to play from kmid, other sounds work, but not kmid even though it says it is playing. Help?
[03:16] <BADKITTY> NightDragon .. did you ever do this: sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:16] <gogeta> |neon| well if i rember overclock its a incrase in power cpu scaling is probly gonna conflict
[03:17] <tatterdemalian> NightDragon: That happens if you can't use 3d hardware acceleration... I had that problem until I installed the restricted nVidia drivers
[03:17] <sn00zer> anyone know how to tell aptitude that packages are not unused and stop trying to remove them?
[03:17] <pgan> phaedra: After I disanled roaming mode, my connection died.  I had to run dhclient to re-connect.  The /var/log/syslog output is at http://pastebin.com/m635c6071
[03:17] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: Have you tested to see if your 3d acceleration is wkg?
[03:17] <NightDragon> works fine on windows
[03:17] <NightDragon> (dual boot)
[03:17] <amjad> why can not i configure my network in gutsy gibibon, even though i am root
[03:18] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: I'm guessing it's something to do with not having the restricted drivers...
[03:18] <amjad> it says HAL initlization failed
[03:18] <ebirtaid> amjad: error?
[03:18] <ebirtaid> errr
[03:18] <desertc> YouKnowMe: Talk with the kmid people yet?
[03:18] <ebirtaid> is hal enabled?
[03:18] <tatterdemalian> amjad: I don't know much yet, but that sounds bad
[03:18] <NightDragon> what kind of restricted drivers?
[03:18] <casio1374633> /par/
[03:18] <BADKITTY> The restricted drivers for your video card
[03:18] <NightDragon> yeah ususally any error with "HAL" in it is realyl bad
[03:19] <NightDragon> dont know where to get them
[03:19] <tatterdemalian> HAL is the interface to the hardware... if that goes down, odds are you can't use critical parts of your machine
[03:19] <phaedra> pgan, Yes...  you'll need to also set the connection properties to dhcp too.  If you do that you can restart the net with 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[03:19] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: What kind of card do you have? ATI?
[03:19] <|neon|> gogeta: i am running a Q6600 2.4 stock at 3.9 memory also oc'ed just slightly the entire rig is water cooled , while that does not guarantee anything i regularly rn stress test to make sure components are not degrading hard to really tell but at least doing so gives me an indication now i am quite familiar with the windows works but not so familiar with linux tho i am learning
[03:20] <NightDragon> yeah
[03:20] <NightDragon> ati mobility M6
[03:20] <NightDragon> LY
[03:20] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: System-Administration-Restricted Drivers Management
[03:20] <markjames> how do I burn an ISO DVD via the command line?
[03:21] <tatterdemalian> Restricted drivers are drivers that aren't open-source... usually hacked or reverse-engineered Windows drivers
[03:21] <orland> how to change thunar font in fluxbox ?
[03:21] <gogeta> |neon| well its probly in the linux power managment unfortanly its just not all that great disabling it should allow the overclock to avoideing cloiiding with the cpu scaling
[03:21] <perrako> Anyone know what packages to use for DVD- Audio playback in linux?
[03:21] <pgan> phaedra: isnt' the /etc/init.d script supposed to be run automatically when I start up?
[03:21] <BADKITTY> tatterdemalian: What kind of nvidia card do you have? I never had problems getting mine to work right
[03:21] <gogeta> |neon| at normal sppeds there shoudent be a issue
[03:21] <NightDragon> theres nothing that is realted into the display driver in there
[03:21] <tatterdemalian> BADKITTY: Geforce Go 6100
[03:21] <|neon|> brb wanna try something
[03:22] <bulio> how do I burn an ISO DVD via the command line?
[03:22] <BADKITTY> tatterdemalian: hmm strange.. there has always been good nvidia support ... wonder if it is just the go series that wasn't included
[03:22] <phaedra> pgan, This script is the network startup and yes it does, but when you change these settings you need to restart the net for the settings to take hold.  You don't need to reboot ala-windows.
[03:22] <pgan> phaedra: now that roaming is disabled and dhcp selected, I'll restart and see if the connection comes up automatically.  Right?
[03:23] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: Do a google search for something like ubuntu ATI restricted driver
[03:23] <phaedra> pgan, No...  just use the networking script...
[03:23] <tatterdemalian> BADKITTY: Oh, the restricted driver works fine, I just had to tell Ubuntu to install and use it first... it doesn't, out of the box, due to the licensing issues
[03:23] <phaedra> pgan, Or you can reboot to test...
[03:23] <pgan> phaedra: my initial problem was that the connection does not come up automatically when I start up.  That's the problem I want to solve
[03:23] <orland> how to change thunar font in fluxbox ?
[03:23] <desertc> !patience
[03:23] <phaedra> pgan, Okay...  Go ahead and reboot then.
[03:23] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:23] <BADKITTY> tatterdemalian: Oh yeah ok of course!
[03:24] <tatterdemalian> NightDragon: There may not be one, if it's a brand shiny new card. Hacking and reverse enginnering takes time, and obviously ATI isn't going to lift a finger to help
[03:26] <orland> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines/list
[03:26] <mavi-> actually amd/ati released their specs and are collaborating on a driver or two iirc
[03:26] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: try glxgears in a terminal
[03:26] <carl_> hey guys, hello, I want to install ubuntu on hp desktop computer, I was conected through USB conection, so, will ubuntu conect to internet automaticaly , my computer doesn't have a ethernet conection.
[03:26] <desertc> mavi-: correct.  the 2d driver is already out
[03:26] <NightDragon> guys my machine is from 2003
[03:26] <tatterdemalian> mavi-: Cool... wonder if that includes NightDragon's card?
[03:26] <NightDragon> and its a popular card, if a whole forum tut was written on it
[03:27] <desertc> carl_: I believe so.
[03:27] <NightDragon> i just am total linux noobishness
[03:27] <phaedra> carl_, Is there a usb networking card on the usb port?
[03:27] <tatterdemalian> NightDragon: Okay, didn't know that... I don't keep up on graphics card news like I used to
[03:27] <BADKITTY> carl_: yeah i think it should depending on the card ... do you have the iso downloaded?
[03:27] <NightDragon> lol
[03:27] <NightDragon> its all good...
[03:27] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: try typing glxgears in a terminal and tell me if it runs
[03:28] <tatterdemalian> I grabbed the reins after going a thousand dollars into debt buying six cards in the space of about a month
[03:28] <carl_> phaedra, there is not, mi modem is a device outside, and it is conected throght USB only
[03:28] <tatterdemalian> Back when Voodoo was still around
[03:28] <Vovk> hey, is there a way that I can set an alarm on my computer to wake me up at 6:40 by playing a song? assuming the computer is on and logged in to my account
[03:28] <NightDragon> glx gears = displays some gears
[03:28] <desertc> vovk: cron
[03:29] <Vovk> desertc: please explain? :)
[03:29] <carl_> phaedra, conection will be detected automaticaly or I have to do something ?
[03:29] <desertc> vovk: please google.  :)
[03:29] <NightDragon> lol tatter... poor 3dfx.. voodoo wasnt half bad back in the day
[03:29] <scguy318> Vovk: yep, add something to your cron :P
[03:29] <jmolek28> i was trying to install ubuntu today and my cd drive stopped working.. has this happened to anyone else?
[03:29] <Vovk> desertc: fair enough :)
[03:29] <jmolek28> the drive worked fine until the live cd
[03:29] <BADKITTY> NightDragon: Ok hold on I gotta see how to output info into a window to test how well its wkg
[03:29] <tatterdemalian> BADKITTY: Uh, it might just run... but at about one frame every ten seconds, and bring the system to its knees in the process
[03:30] <desertc> jmolek28: did you check the integrity?
[03:30] <phaedra> carl_, Okay...  that might pose a problem.  Your best bet is to check to see if the usb modem is supported or just boot the livecd to see if it is recognized.
[03:30] <BADKITTY> tatterdemalian: Yeah thats why i wanna see the specs
[03:30] <Vovk> ok
[03:30] <phaedra> carl_, Boot the cd and try lsusb from a terminal after you login.
[03:30] <Cryoniq> Anyone been able to access a shared folder with bluetooth from a mobile phone? Like.. I connect from my mobile phone, get a directory in it from my computer where I can choose files to download from it?
[03:31] <tatterdemalian> I found that out too, since the first thing I did was play with the screensavers... OpenGL is more willing to do software rendering than I am to wait for it
[03:31] <carl_> phaedra, I was reading a paper, in wich I think it is needed to load any module :(
[03:31] <Vovk> new question... is there a GUI for cron? I just need to do it tonight and I would prefer not taking an hour or so to learn how to do it... (although I will if need be)
[03:31] <phaedra> carl_, What brand of modem is this?
[03:31] <billenium> i want to copy and paste soemthing to lib, how do i do this?
[03:31] <Cryoniq> All features I found out so far is to send from phone, send to phone or browse phones memory from computer.. but not browse a specified directory ON my computer from my mobile phone over bluetooth...
[03:32] <carl_> phaedra: 2WIRE INFINITUM telmex,
[03:32] <Cryoniq> If anyone know if this is possible and if there is a solution it would be great..
[03:33] <tatterdemalian> I thought I had crashed the system when I first previewed Solarwinds
[03:33] <desertc> vovk: no
[03:33] <carl_> phaedra, it has two conection, one for ethernet conection (this I ocupy for my laptop) and one USB for my desktop computer from windows
[03:33] <BADKITTY> tatterdemalien: haha
[03:33] <desertc> vovk: it's not complex -- you should learn it
[03:34] <phaedra> carl_, I found a link but it's in spanish...  You want it?
[03:34] <BADKITTY> I have a second HD that isn't auto mounting, and I don't know if I am seeing it at all in linux .. any help?
[03:34] <Vovk> desertc: ok then :)
[03:34] <carl_> phaedra, I speak spanish :D
[03:35] <carl_> phaedra, could you give it to me ?
[03:35] <sizzam> how do i control the resolution that is displayed when i go into CTRL+ALT+F1?  Im on a widescreen laptop and the screen is cut off when i go into that terminal screen
[03:35] <tatterdemalian> BADKITTY: Have you looked in the Hardware Informatin for it?
[03:35] <nightdragon_> hey
[03:35] <nightdragon_> its me again
[03:35] <shirish> hi guys, does anybody know of some good project management systems/PMS they can tell me?
[03:35] <tatterdemalian> nightdragon_: I knew it was gonna crash
[03:35] <BADKITTY> nightdragon: THis time let gears run and tell me how many fps you are seeing
[03:35] <nightdragon_> badkitty: sorry, i tried to enable desktop effects and it crashed, lol
[03:35] <phaedra> carl_ Okay ;)  Si esta aqui...  http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/67596
[03:35] <carl_> phaedra, ok thanks man.
[03:36] <jmolek28> is there a way to install ubuntu from a usb drive?
[03:36] <phaedra> carl_,  np...
[03:36] <desertc> jmolek28: yes
[03:36] <desertc> jmolek28: sorry, *from* a usb drive.  I'm not sure, never heard of that
[03:36] <tatterdemalian> jmolek: Wow. Maybe if your BIOS will let you boot from USB
[03:36] <Vovk> you're right, it's not very hard at all.   I see how to set it to run on a single day in a week, but how can I get it to run every day except for the weekends (without writing all the stuff over 5 times?)
[03:36] <BADKITTY> tatterdemalian: looking ... dont see it .. its a new 500 gig drive...
[03:37] <AR_se> hi
[03:37] <tatterdemalian> BADKITTY: If you don't see it, Ubuntu isn't recognizing it... dunno what else to say
[03:37] <pgan> phaedra: My eth0 network still did not come up after I rebooted.  Roaming mode is still disabled and DHCP is enabled in Network Settings.  The messages in /var/log/syslog are at http://pastebin.com/d45d5c2b9
[03:38] <Vovk> one more question about cron, does the week start on monday or sunday for the day of the week setting?
[03:38] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: do you see any related messages when you type 'dmesg' ?
[03:38] <nightdragon_> is there seriously 1135 users in this channel? jeez
[03:38] <pgan> What seems strange to me is the message "NetworkManager: <information>^IDeactivating device eth0."
[03:40] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: also (and I'm sorry if you already answered this), but do you have another OS installed that can see the disk (i.e. Windows)?  Do you know if it works at all?
[03:41] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: This is a whole bunch of output: I didn't see any msg... I do have a xp installation that can see the drive fine
[03:41] <BADKITTY> nightdragon: How many fps are you getting in glxgears?
[03:41] <phaedra> pgan, check /etc/network/interfaces for the card...  I see it's a xircom.  I have a Thinkpad too but I use wireless only now.
[03:41] <jimjam> Is there a way to mount NTFS partitions in fstab such that I have continual RW permissions?
[03:41] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: is it connected via USB, by SATA, or IDE?
[03:42] <nichos> can anyone tell me where the config file is for grdesktop?
[03:42] <sars> where can I find example for conforming of  apache2.2.6+tomcat6.0.14 ?
[03:42] <nichos> its not in the documentation
[03:43] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: I have both the installation drive and the second drive using Sata: I also have two USB drives that do show up (when they are plugged in) and a third SATA that is sitting doing nothing cause my board only has 2 sata ports
[03:43] <sars> who can  give me the url for my need
[03:43] <pgan> phaedra: Yes, it's a xircom.  /etc/network/interfaces includes the lines "iface eth0 inet dhcp" and "auto eth0"
[03:43] <nightdragon_> badkitty: like 800 or so
[03:43] <dfcarney> and both the SATA drives are on the same controller?  hmmm...
[03:43] <Vovk> ok... some questions about crontab
[03:43] <nightdragon_> nope... 197
[03:44] <Vovk> Do I have to run sudo in front of crontab -e? what day of the week does it start on? do I have to do anything besides edit the file?
[03:44] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: type something like "dmesg | grep sd" and browse the output to see if the second drive shows up in the messages
[03:44] <BADKITTY> nightdragon - yeah I doubt you have the correct drivers ..mine is outputting atleast 2000 - 3500
[03:44] <pgan> phaedra: I have a Thinkpad A21m which does not have a network card, and I can't find a PCMCIA one that works with Linux.  But that's another issue.
[03:44] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: you should see entries for sda, sdb, etc... for each disk (if they're detected)
[03:45] <tatterdemalian> How many letters are allowed in freenode quit messages?
[03:45] <scguy318> pgan: if that PCMCIA card doesn't have a native Linux driver try ndiswrapper
[03:45] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: I think I see it as sdb, its the only one with 500 gigs ...
[03:46] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: so the kernel sees it
[03:46] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: that's good.  is it listed in /proc/scsi/scsi?
[03:46] <nightdragon_> badkitty: how to fix?
[03:46] <sfears> i wish linksys would just get with it and have linux drivers... bastards
[03:47] <broken> haha
[03:47] <BADKITTY> nightdragon: hang on bud..
[03:47] <broken> Is it like possible that software won't work after building a computer.
[03:47] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: if so, type 'cat /proc/partitions' to see if the partition table on the disk is recognized
[03:47] <sfears> what about internal wireless network, i have it on my laptop, but i have no idea how to work it, anyone know where i should start?
[03:47] <broken> It seems eveyrthing is just dieing
[03:48] <pgan> scguy318: it doesn't work too well with ndiswrapper either.
[03:48] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: I think it is in there, how do I use cat?
[03:48] <jordan> is it possible to use compiz in gutsy with ATI drivers (fglrx)?
[03:48] <BADKITTY> oh I mistyped no wonder
[03:49] <pgan> scguy318: I wish I could just buy something that has Linux drivers :-/
[03:49] <sfears> what does the cat command stand for?
[03:49] <BADKITTY>    8    16  488386584 sdb
[03:49] <BADKITTY>    8    17  488384001 sdb1
[03:49] <BADKITTY>    8    16  488386584 sdb
[03:49] <BADKITTY>    8    17  488384001 sdb1
[03:49] <dfcarney> sfears: concatenate
[03:49] <sfears> wtf?
[03:49] <BADKITTY> Sorry for that
[03:49] <pgan> sfears: open a terminal and type "man cat"
[03:49] <tomd123> does anyone know of a utility for linux so i can transfer mp3's into my ipod?
[03:49] <phaedra> pgan, there are plenty of pcmcia cards that work in linux...  I use a trendnet on my thinkpad with 7.04...  the interfaces file is fine.  I think it might be the xircom...  dmesg reports that 'xircom_cb' doesn't support carrier detection.
[03:49] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: (don't paste output to the forum).  anyhow, looks like the partition is there
[03:50] <sfears> if this was scrabble i'd make you look that word up
[03:50] <scguy318> sfears: concatenate
[03:50] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: I know thats why i siad sorry.. i figure 2 lines max is ok
[03:50] <phaedra> pgan, It looks like it's the driver...
[03:50] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: you'll want to try something like "sudo mount -t <filesystem type> /dev/sdb1 /media/disk"
[03:50] <duvnell> ubuntu doesn't use sysv init.. what do you call what it does use?  I wanted to read up on it
[03:50] <BADKITTY> tomd123: cli or graphical?
[03:50] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: make sure that "/media/disk" exists and isn't used by something else
[03:51] <scguy318> duvnell: Upstart I think
[03:51] <tatterdemalian> How do I get avahi to leave mt wlan0 interface alone?
[03:51] <duvnell> thx
[03:51] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: it can be any directory -- you just need a mount point
[03:51] <pgan> phaedra: I saw that message... so the driver does not support it, eh?  But can't I stop NetworkManager from disabling the connection?
[03:51] <tomd123> badkitty: graphical
[03:51] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: is it ntfs?
[03:51] <pgan> phaedra: and supposedly your xircom card worked as expected  - connection was up when you boot?
[03:52] <pgan> phaedra: perhaps if I upgrade to gutsy?
[03:52] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: Yeah it should be.. thats how I remember formatting it
[03:52] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: so you'll want to use "sudo mount -t ntfs ..."
[03:52] <cubedsi> if anyone is using X.org to disply multi screens or devices on ubuntu could you pastebin me your xorg.conf
[03:52] <BADKITTY> tomd123: Umm doesn't rhythmbox have ipod ability?
[03:52] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: that'll give you read-only access.  for read-write, you'll want to read up on ntfs-3g
[03:52] <cubedsi> i mean multi-x or dual head display
[03:53] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: it didn't work it said no such file ... FUSE mount point creation failed
[03:53] <BADKITTY> cubedsi: sure.. can you gimme a minute
[03:53] <tomd123> badkitty: will it let me transfer files to my ipod?
[03:53] <tjs> G'day, I'm running the latest release, I've installed xfonts-jmk to get the 'neep' font for my terminal, I've run sudo fc-cache -f -v  to update the cache, its still not available as a font to gnome-terminal, nor is it appearing in fonts:/// from nautilus
[03:53] <cubedsi> yeah, YES TY!
[03:53] <Evanlec> anyone here got hackintosh running? ;p
[03:53] <Jupp2> Evanlec, yes
[03:53] <sfears> nope.. but i saw the video yesterday, looks cool
[03:53] <Evanlec> Jupp2, yea?
[03:53] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: so create the directory first with "sudo mkdir /media/disk"
[03:54] <BADKITTY> tomd123: I really think so.. google rhythmbox ubuntu and read the abilities. its either that one or  ....
[03:54] <Evanlec> Jupp2, i just got a Leopard disc
[03:54] <kuta> how to update kubuntu manaually
[03:54] <Jupp2> Evanlec, retail?
[03:54] <Evanlec> Jupp2, i pop it in my drive and it comes up as "bootcamp"
[03:54] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: Oh did I not pay attention when you said it had to exist already?
[03:54] <Evanlec> Jupp2, not sure, my stepmother got it from apple in the mail...
[03:54] <phaedra> pgan, My eth0 always worked it's just the modem section that always gave me trouble.  7.10 might be better...  The drivers are all up to date.
[03:54] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: hehe, no, you didn't pay attention :)
[03:54] <cubedsi> what is hackint0sh?
[03:54] <sfears> i guess it wasn't a video.. and at the end it said you have to leave the cd in the drive to boot everytime. is that true?
[03:54] <Jupp2> Evanlec, you have to modify it in order to install in a PC
[03:54] <Evanlec> Jupp2, right, im aware
[03:55] <Evanlec> Jupp2, but how do u extract the contents off the disc?
[03:55] <Evanlec> Jupp2, it seems to be hiding the guts from me, all it shows is this bootcamp stuff
[03:55] <Evanlec> cubedsi, its a patch for mac os 10.5 that lets it run on pc hardware
[03:55] <pgan> phaedra: Thanks.  I am kinda afraid to upgrade to Gutsy, don't know what will break :-/
[03:55] <Jupp2> Evanlec, you really can't modify it in Linux afaik
[03:56] <Evanlec> Jupp2, what?!?
[03:56] <Evanlec> Jupp2, what can u modify it in then? windows? lol
[03:56] <cubedsi> oh nifty hackintosh
[03:56] <multidex> hello all
[03:56] <owlin> Hello. I'm having a problem with Ubuntu. Recently, and I'm not sure why, all the window frames disappeared. Could anyone help me with this?
[03:56] <Jupp2> Evanlec,  all the guides I found to modify the disk assumed you had Tiger installed so they explained how to do it under osx
[03:57] <Evanlec> Jupp2, i see, well she has leopard installed already, can i do it from there/
[03:57] <desertc> owlin did you search online yet?
[03:57] <phaedra> pgan, I'm running 7.04 on mine...  Haven't gone to 7.10 yet.  You'll probably need to use no acpi to boot it...
[03:57] <owlin> No. But, I more or less want to know if this is a simple bug. Or something serious.
[03:58] <desertc> pgan: got space on your driver for another partition?
[03:58] <pgan> phaedra: why not acpi?  acpi=force works fine up to 7.04
[03:58] <Crozar> whattt issssssss Trac!!!!
[03:58] <BADKITTY> cubedsi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44679/
[03:58] <Crozar> my head will explode going deep into linux~!
[03:58] <ice9__> http://paste.lisp.org/display/50923.
[03:58] <Jupp2> Evanlec,  if you have leopard already installed then you can follow this guide: http://forum.osx86scene.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2008
[03:58] <Jimmytakeover> I am unable to play mkv files with mplayer. how come?
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> owlin: curious, have you used any scripts to install things...  automatix or others like it..?
[03:58] <ice9__> getting upgrade error
[03:58] <Jimmytakeover> its saying cannot connect to socket.
[03:58] <owlin> No.
[03:58] <Crozar> im so deep that im lost help me what is Trac and what is many other things like evpoint
[03:58] <ice9__> from update-manager
[03:58] <owlin> I only use synaptic or the terminal to install things.
[03:58] <multidex> i messed up my graphic card / monitor settings - I need to boot in low graphics mode, but I set grub to skip the menu of choices, it says hit ESC for menu, but ESC doesn't make it give the menu
[03:58] <Jimmytakeover> although i don't see how. plays fine with vlc/movie player
[03:59] <owlin> And I haven't installed anything recently.
[03:59] <pgan> desertc: thanks, I plan to try with another laptop dirve
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> owlin: HAve you changed repos or added things from outside the repos
[03:59] <owlin> No. I didn't do anything out of the normal listening to music, talking to friends using Pidgin, and using Firefox.
[03:59] <wintubuntu> hello everybody...i'm a new to ubuntu...i have a query...could someone please help me out?
[03:59] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: cool I got it to mount ... now will it auto mount for me if I were to reboot?
[04:00] <owlin> I just started my computer up one day, and saw the window frames missing.
[04:00] <Jupp2> wintubuntu, what's your problem?
[04:00] <Evanlec> Jupp2, thx
[04:00] <desertc> pgan: many people have said they had no trouble.  as for me, I recommend backing up your data
[04:00] <BADKITTY> cubedsi: Did you find it?
[04:00] <wintubuntu> i have 2 hard drives a scsi and an ide 1. ubuntu is installed on the scsi 1 along with dual boot xp
[04:00] <tatterdemalian> Is there any way I can tell all avahi-related daemons to never ever screw with my wlan0 interface?
[04:00] <Evanlec> ahhh, what processors support sse3?
[04:01] <Jupp2> Evanlec, I recommend that you get some of the iso floating around since modifying is not an easy task
[04:01] <phaedra> pgan, I just didn't want to force it...  Here's a link to check out.  http://www.nabble.com/IBM-Thinkpad-t4677243.html     there are some others on that site too.
[04:01] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: no.  for that, you need to install it in /etc/fstab
[04:01] <Evanlec> Jupp2, really? i was gonna grab a torrent, but 6gb is a longgg download
[04:01] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: i just wanted to make sure it would mount
[04:01] <wintubuntu> in ubuntu, only the first partition of ide hdd is displayed. if i do a fdisk -l, the other partitions are displayed but not mounted. how do i get ubuntu to mount these automatically?
[04:01] <Evanlec> Jupp2, n since i knew she was gettin this today, i thot this would be easier
[04:01] <ice9__> http://paste.lisp.org/display/50923.
[04:01] <ice9__> from update-manager
[04:02] <Jupp2> Evanlec, don't get that!! look for the ToH release
[04:02] <MidnighToker> wintubuntu: stop using the return key as punctuation, you dont type fast enough
[04:02] <Evanlec> Jupp2, on bittorrent?
[04:02] <phaedra> pgan, BTW I don't use the no acpi anymore.  7.04 does handle it fine...
[04:02] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: you may want to google for "mounting ntfs in ubuntu" or "mounting windows partition in linux" for a good set of instructions
[04:02] <ice9__> using the command do-release-upgrade
[04:02] <Jupp2> Evanlec, ues
[04:02] <dfcarney> or, you could type "man fstab" and delve into the technical mumbo jumbo
[04:02] <Jupp2> Evanlec, yes
[04:02] <Evanlec> Jupp2, k
[04:02] <MidnighToker> wintubuntu: you want to add them into /etc/fstab to auto-mount them on boot
[04:02] <Jupp2> Evanlec, it fits on a single layer dvd
[04:02] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: or, you could type "man fstab" and delve into the technical mumbo jumbo
[04:03] <Jupp2> is SSE2 and SSE3 compatible
[04:03] <multidex> How do I force Grub to offer the list of systems to boot, it says "hit ESC for menu" but ESC doesn't work
[04:03] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: Ok I got the basics:  eg ~ man mount ... but yes I would like to figure out how to auto mount it everytime and have write access to it as well
[04:03] <Evanlec> Jupp2, i found one 4.22gb , 0 seeders tho :(
[04:03] <MidnighToker> Jupp2: compatible with what?
[04:03] <Jupp2> iEvanlec, iss SSE2 and SSE3 compatible
[04:03] <nightdragon_> hello?
[04:03] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: then read up on fstab and ntfs-3g
[04:03] <nightdragon_> anybody still around?
[04:03] <wintubuntu> is there anywhere where i can get a step by step tut 4 this?
[04:03] <Jupp2> Evanlec, iss SSE2 and SSE3 compatible
[04:03] <BADKITTY> nightdragon: nah
[04:03] <pgan> tjs: Is neep better than freetype fonts?
[04:03] <Evanlec> Jupp2, okay
[04:03] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: in fact, if you install ntfs-3g then it may run you through an installer that will set things up for you
[04:03] <MidnighToker> wintubuntu: if you look in /etc/fstab its pretty slef explanitory, or man /etc/fstab
[04:03] <Evanlec> Jupp2, i found the ToH release on isohunt but 0 seeders
[04:04] <Jupp2> Evanlec, I tried modifying my own DVD which I bough on the store and it was a major headache
[04:04] <desertc> !ask nightdragon_
[04:04] <tatterdemalian> nightdragon_: Sort of, what up?
[04:04] <Jupp2> I downloaded mine a couple of days ago, and it works fine
[04:04] <Evanlec> Jupp2, alright, well thanks for the tip, i kinda just wanted to fool around with it anyway, glad u save me that trouble
[04:04] <oj> what plugin do i need in order to watch full screen videos on spikedhumor.com ?
[04:04] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: the trick with setting it up in /etc/fstab is that you have to set the mount permissions properly so that you can actually read/write to it
[04:04] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: I have gutsy though, it came with it
[04:04] <nightdragon_> i'm still having problems getting 3d accelleration to work
[04:04] <wintubuntu> thanks every1
[04:04] <Evanlec> Jupp2, can u point me to a good torrent link?
[04:04] <pgan> phaedra: I have used acpi=force for 6.10 and 7.04 and I get hybernation, but with some problems.  APM never worked for me
[04:05] <MidnighToker> Jupp2: Evanlec not wanting to have a go, but a quick pointer about not talking warez in the channel?
[04:05] <dfcarney> BADKITTY: well, typing "dpkg-reconfigure ntfs-3g" may kick-start it (though I'm not certain)
[04:05] <BADKITTY> nightdragon: I have no experience with the ati drivers, id like to help more
[04:05] <Evanlec> MidnighToker, its not warez...
[04:05] <owlin> Nevermind. I've fixed it. Strangely it was with the "extra" setting I was using with the more attractive visuals. I hope the bug is fixed soon. Thanks anyone for helping.
[04:05] <MidnighToker> Evanlec: its against the EULA for OSX, unless you own a copy, and its still illigal unless you're using your own media. its hardly kosher
[04:05] <SudoKing> hello?
[04:06] <Evanlec> MidnighToker, i own a copy and it is my own media
[04:06] <lou_> caroline says
[04:06] <Evanlec> MidnighToker, im looking at it
[04:06] <aaron> hi!
[04:06] <phaedra> pgan, Okay...  I just searched 7.10 and the xircom is in linux-restricted-modules  check to see if it's in 7.04 - It should be.
[04:06] <menko> hi, is it possible to upgrade using the live cd?
[04:06] <Evanlec> MidnighToker, its shiny and black and purple with a big X
[04:06] <BADKITTY> dfcarney: Well it did something, everything was undercover though so, well see.. atleast I have the basic idea
[04:06] <tatterdemalian> nightdragon_: Do a google search for your card and Ubuntu / GNOME / Debian, I really can't tell you anything else
[04:06] <cubedsi> thanks badkitty
[04:06] <SudoKing> where can I find the ubuntu login sound? Want to replace KDE login sound with Ubuntu sound...?
[04:06] <MidnighToker> Evanlec: lucky you, my apologies -but the torrent?
[04:06] <menko> SudoKing: try /usr/share/sounds
[04:06] <pgan> phaedra: thanks, will check
[04:07] <Evanlec> MidnighToker, the torrent is to download a patched version of the OS
[04:07] <multidex> How do I boot Gutsy in command-line only?
[04:07] <SudoKing> menko: I don't have Ubuntu
[04:07] <BADKITTY> cubedsi: did that work for you  Basically the added line with twinview was almost the only addition I had to make
[04:07] <SudoKing> I just want the Ubuntu login sound
[04:07] <adp10390> multidex: there should be an option for that in your GRUB menu
[04:07] <scguy318> multidex: boot in recovery mode
[04:07] <menko> do you have the cd?
[04:07] <cubedsi> haven't tried yet i am bz for a few
[04:07] <SudoKing> No...
[04:07] <phaedra> pgan,  you have to search under ltmodem
[04:07] <SudoKing> =-(
[04:07] <multidex> yes, it doesn't give me the menu, it says hit esc for menu, but that doesn't work
[04:08] <menko> hi, is it possible to upgrade using the live cd?
[04:08] <BADKITTY> Anyone else have twinview enabled with compiz-fusion??
[04:08] <multidex> is there another way to get the menu?
[04:08] <menko> from 7.04 to 7.10
[04:08] <adp10390> multidex: use your install cd to reinstall grub
[04:08] <SudoKing> Can't I find a copy of the original Ubuntu login sound online?
[04:08] <BADKITTY> menko: I think you must have the alternative cd
[04:08] <oj> hey how do i fix it so i can maximize videos on spikedhumor.com ?
[04:08] <TwoD> I'm trying to run svnserve from xinetd, but it refuses to listen on the port..
[04:08] <adp10390> multidex: or check your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[04:08] <menko> I don't have the time or bandwidth to get the alternative, there must be some way to use the live cd
[04:08] <pgan> phaedra: funnily enough, when I go to System -> Admin -> Restricted drivers manager, I get a message: "your system does not need any restricted drivers"
[04:09] <multidex> adp10390: thank you
[04:09] <BADKITTY> menko: alright well I really don't think so
[04:09] <menko> well that's really silly if you ask me
[04:09] <BADKITTY> menko: I didn't make the rules, but yah, kinda silly
[04:10] <phaedra> pgan, Hmmm...  It's probably using the 'free' drivers...
[04:10] <phaedra> pgan, you can open synaptic and search for ltmodem.
[04:11] <tatterdemalian> Sudoking: Looking for it now
[04:11] <Pir8> What player in ubuntu can play rm files ?
[04:11] <Pir8> I do not want to install real player
[04:11] <s00p> real player is evil
[04:11] <Pir8> agreed
[04:11] <SudoKing> thanks tatterdemalian
[04:11] <s00p> RelPain
[04:11] <pgan> with the 7.04 repos, ltmodem does not come up
[04:11] <JairunCaloth> screen = pwn :)
[04:12] <tatterdemalian> Would be nice if there was a directory that told us which directory these things were stored under...
[04:12] <phaedra> pgan,  brb-afk
[04:13] <IanLiu> is there a GUI to make GTK applications?
[04:13] <dfcarney> tatterdemalian: for what are you searching?
[04:13] <SudoKing> tatterdemalian: lol
[04:13] <tatterdemalian> dfcarney: The directory Ubuntu system sounds are stored in
[04:14] <dfcarney> tatterdemalian: /usr/share/sounds, i'm willing to bet
[04:14] <JairunCaloth> quit
[04:14] <JairunCaloth> -.-
[04:14] <dfcarney> tatterdemalian: if you know part of the filename, you can use "locate" to find it
[04:14] <mcgrew> having some trouble getting an external hard drive to work, it was working before, but now ubuntu doesnt seem to realize its plugged in.
[04:15] <dfcarney> mcgrew: type 'dmesg' after plugging it in to see if there are any status/error messages
[04:15] <IanLiu> is there a graphical user interface to make GTK layouts?
[04:15] <drulux> Sup.
[04:15] <tatterdemalian> dfcarney: Thanks, that was it
[04:16] <SudoKing> :P
[04:16] <dfcarney> tatterdemalian: no problem
[04:16] <Ademan> whee, i gave out 5 cds in 10 minutes
[04:16] <mcgrew> ddfcarney: alright, I did that, what am I looking for to see if somethings amiss?
[04:16] <pgan> phaedra: sorry, ltmodem is in the 7.04 repos, but xircom is not listed
[04:17] <broken> Can someone explain to me why ubuntu has set its display on 1280x1024 when this should be 1400x900?
[04:17] <SudoKing> tatterdemalian: how do i accept?
[04:17] <dfcarney> mcgrew: there's no easy answer to that :)  basically, error messages about a SCSI drive or disk (most likely)
[04:17] <nickrud> I'm trying to use networkmanager in automatic mode, along with named nameservers, any pointers?
[04:17] <dfcarney> mcgrew: if you plug something in to a USB port then the kernel should detect it and try to deal with it
[04:17] <Kalamarenku> CAn I connect to a Windows Xp computer with Ubuntu's RDP?
[04:17] <tatterdemalian> Sudoking: Uh... your client doesn't show you an accept button?
[04:17] <scguy318> Kalamarenku: sure
[04:18] <dfcarney> mcgrew: messages about that kind of thing can generally be seen by typing 'dmesg'
[04:18] <broken> ?
[04:18] <drulux> Does X-Chat allow standard mIRC commands?
[04:18] <drulux> Like /server -m etc.
[04:18] <SudoKing> I have Konversation...and it said [23:16] [DCC] tatterdemalian offers to send you "startup.wav" (1.3 MB)...
[04:18] <drulux> I'm new to this thing.
[04:18] <Kalamarenku> scguy318: just by entering the account name and IP address?
[04:18] <mcgrew> I dont see any error messages. I get a bunch of info, but nothing that appears to be an error.
[04:18] <Kalamarenku> Nevermind, I will do my Homework :)
[04:18] <nickrud> drulux: no
[04:18] <drulux> Alright.
[04:19] <drulux> How do I connect to multiple servers?
[04:19] <tatterdemalian> Sudoking: Danged if I know... never used Konversation
[04:19] <tatterdemalian> That worked
[04:19] <SudoKing> ah, tatterdemalain: it finally opened! yay! thank you so much
[04:19] <tatterdemalian> Sudoking: No prob, it's not compressed tho
[04:20] <tatterdemalian> Sudoking: Might want to run it through mp3enc
[04:20] <robert_> UGH
[04:20] <robert_> (gens:11195): Pango-WARNING **: /usr/lib/pango/1.6.0/modules/pango-basic-fc.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[04:20] <SudoKing> Danged if I know where I put it
[04:20] <robert_> help?
[04:20] <robert_> what did I do wrong?
[04:20] <robert_> I can't get my 32-bit arch support working agin
[04:20] <robert_> again*
[04:20] <ikon> i need some good tutorials about bash on ubuntu
[04:21] <broken> bash is universal
[04:21] <tatterdemalian> robert_: You need to re-roll your elf, nobody will believe you rolled 20s eight times in a row
[04:21] <billenium> how do i upgrade to ubuntu 7.10?
[04:21] <tatterdemalian> Sorry, I couldn't resist that one
[04:21] <BADKITTY> ikon: You might look for a .pdf of bash
[04:21] <Vovk> I've got a few questions about cron. I'd like it to run the shell script "alarm" that i've written and placed into my "~/Music/alarm" directory
[04:21] <ikon> i need some good tutorials about bash on ubuntu
[04:21]  * robert_ brutally murders tatterdemalian for being an idiot
[04:21] <BADKITTY> ikon: or some other e-book
[04:22] <broken> rofl
[04:22] <Vovk> I've done this command to test it tonight at 11:20    20 23 * * * /home/mykola/Music/alarm/alarm
[04:22] <mcgrew> so I dont see a error message with dmesg, so is there anything else I can do to try and get this external hd to work?
[04:22] <Vovk> it didn't work
[04:22] <nickrud> !upgrade | billenium
[04:22] <ubotu> billenium: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:22] <Vovk> what am I doing wrong?
[04:22] <ikon> badkitty: yes
[04:22] <Vovk> I know that the shell script works, i've run it just fine before
[04:22] <BADKITTY> !mouse
[04:22] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:22] <waan_> Can anyone help me get ubuntu installed, it fails after loading the linux kernel when I boot from the CD, leaving a whole bunch of errors like this -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44629/
[04:23] <nickrud> mcgrew: try tail -f /var/log/syslog in a terminal, and watch for any output when you plug it in
[04:23] <jimjam> Ack! When playing NWN, the sound stutters. Is there a way to fix that?
[04:23] <jimjam> Is it a problem with sound synching?
[04:23] <desertc> waan_: bad disk
[04:23] <Vovk> yes jimjam, it's on the NWN linux forums under stuttering sound
[04:23] <broken> waan_: yea bad disk
[04:23] <dfcarney> mcgrew: in short, yes...but it's hard to debug hardware issues remotely.  basically, look through dmesg and try to figure out the disk (sda, sdb, etc...)  Then, look up the partition you wish to mount in the /proc/partitions file.  After that, you'll want to mount it with "mount".  To get it to mount automatically, you'll want to google for that info.
[04:23] <jimjam> Vovk: Nice. Thanks.
[04:24] <ikon> badkitty: where can i find it?
[04:24] <BADKITTY> ikon: look on suprnova or isohunt
[04:24] <Vovk> jimjam: iirc, the first solution on the forums doesn't work. the second one should
[04:25] <weltschmerz> i can't share my music with another user on this machine, even though everything in my music directory is chmod to 750, and the group is users, and the user in question is in users.
[04:25] <weltschmerz> any help appreciated.
[04:26] <nickrud> Vovk: you used crontab -e to edit the crontab, right?
[04:27] <mcgrew> Dfcarney: the partions file doesnt display anything. it seems blank to me
[04:27] <Vovk> nickrud: yes, crontab -e .  then I set it to 20 23 * * * and then the command (which i copy/pasted out of my terminal after testing to see that it worked)
[04:27] <nickrud> weltschmerz: did you log out the other user, and log him back in? (group adds don't take effect until a logout)
[04:27] <Vovk> nickrud: it should have gone off at 11:20 right?
[04:28] <Crozar> this is insane
[04:28] <Crozar> how can i study more linux
[04:28] <pgan> weltschmerz: do you have openafs installed by any chance?
[04:28] <broken> hows ubuntu and broadcom wireless adapaters doing?
[04:28] <nickrud> Vovk: should
[04:28] <dfcarney> mcgrew: blank?  does typing 'cat /proc/partitions' on the command-line yield any output?
[04:29] <IanLiu> !gtk
[04:29] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[04:29] <pgan> broken: see the networking and wireless section of the forums
[04:29] <broken> bah..
[04:29] <Vovk> nickrud: is there anything else I have to do? close the crontab file or whatever? right now it looks like this - # m h  dom mon dow   command
[04:29] <Vovk> 20 23 * * * /home/mykola/Music/alarm/alarm
[04:29] <pgan> broken: there is a link to a page listing which cards are suppprted and to which extent
[04:29] <nickrud> Vovk: yes, you have to close & save :)
[04:29] <mEck0> I can't play music from the internetradio-station http://sc10.radioseven.se:80 or with www.radioseven.se/128.pls. I have downloaded the file but it doesn't happen anything if I open it with Banshee or Exaile. Though it works with VLC, so I assume I miss some codecs, think it is a mp3- stream ("usual" mp3's are working for me). Know how to fix?
[04:30] <Vovk> nickrud: lol... i did that as well
[04:30] <nickrud> Vovk: try installing gnome-schedule, and building it that way
[04:30] <Vovk> ok
[04:30] <tatterdemalian> I thought GTK was a Gnu graphics library needed for multiple applications?
[04:31] <nickrud> started for the gimp, adopted by many iirc
[04:31] <Vovk> hmm
[04:31] <Vovk> just got schedule, it seems to be in there
[04:32] <Vovk> we'll see, i just set it for 23:32
[04:32] <tatterdemalian> nickrud: Oh, okay... never used it for anything but GIMP myself, heh
[04:32] <Vovk> now it is that time, the script has not executed (it has permissions)
[04:32] <nickrud> tatterdemalian: gtk is what draws the stuff inside the windows borders
[04:32] <Vovk> permission*
[04:32] <Crozar> guys i have been studying many stuff in linux i found out im not only learning them im in a path where then i can understand and build my own stuff ..
[04:33] <Crozar> i dont want to build stuff , i want to use the built stuff from people but what makes it easier? nothing!!! all the stuff is built are for the other geeks who can deal with them and use them but not for the world
[04:33] <desertc> Crozar: outstanding!  (send some of your learning materials to vovk.... :(  )
[04:33] <nickrud> Vovk: I usually use   touch /home/rich/testfile  for testing my cron stuff, isolates script errors as such
[04:34] <Crozar> the world want to use such stuff , i dont blame the builders but i blame UbuntU and linux the big boys who doesnt make such app or tunnel for just accepting the build ones into the right prespectives , example pidgin plugin = easy put by put and install... ect..
[04:34] <mcgrew> I followed the steps on the ubuntu forums for mounting my external, but when I try it I get this message: mount: can't find sdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab    note that I've not told it anything about /ect/fstab or /ect/mtab, so I'm not sure what those have to do with anything.
[04:34] <desertc> Crozar: I like to say Windows was built by marketing for managers.  Linux built by engineers for engineers.
[04:34] <Crozar> why !!!!!1
[04:34] <tatterdemalian> Crozar: Fortunately we geeks couldn't care less what the world wants
[04:34] <fous> thats funny
[04:34] <nickrud> ah, tatterdemalian has nailed it :)
[04:35] <hexibot43> Can anyone help me?  I am trying to do a "Make Config for v4l-dvb" and it is telling me a do not have the full kernel sources installed - for kernel 2.6.22 any ideas or can you point me in the right direction. thanks
[04:35] <Vovk> nickrud: i've already tried this script from a terminal though. it works, but it's not working with cron
[04:35] <broken> yea i have the WMP54G2 pgan, i believe it should work.
[04:35] <Crozar> but if linux want to win beleive me the first one who will do a excellent work , like mac example , will win $$millions
[04:35] <broken> I had to actually cut the firmware on my gentoo installation.
[04:35] <pgan> Crozar: it is not easy to make it easy to use, but people are trying
[04:35] <broken> But I hope that it will work out of the box with feisty.
[04:35] <fous> I have a question I need help with my wireless drivers for ubuntu
[04:35] <Crozar> i am trying my best until i realized that im working for to become a geek (W TF )
[04:35] <desertc> crozar: I recommend you read "The UNIX Philosophy"
[04:35] <pgan> broken: OK, and have you tried it?
[04:36] <nickrud> Vovk: try bash <script> in the crontab, but I'd do the touch thing
[04:36] <Crozar> i stopped instantly because i cant waste my time here my major is not IT!
[04:36] <tatterdemalian> Crozar: Win what? The right to be as overwhelmingly stupid as Microsoft has been? I don't even want to be a part of that contest
[04:36] <ikon> desert: i need some documentation about bash on ubuntu
[04:36] <drulux> Could someone tell me how to connect to multiple servers as well as how to clear the sever and channel list in X-Chat
[04:36] <drulux> server even
[04:36] <desertc> ikon: man bash
[04:36] <drulux> I am stumped.
[04:36] <nickrud> ikon: abs-guide , install that (advanced bash scripting) also, look at tldp.org
[04:36] <pgan> Crozar: one way to make it easier is to talk to people who are builting it and make suggestions
[04:36] <Crozar> win the world ,the next generation system , if linux wants to be back as the father it must act like one instead of being underground tatterdemalian
[04:36] <tatterdemalian> Crozar: If you're looking for a warrior to overthrow the mighty Windoze, keep looking
[04:37] <desertc> Crozar: Get involved: write documentation, file bug reports, build supporting websites
[04:37] <Campfire1> whats the easist way to get ubuntu running side by side xp
[04:37] <Vovk> Campfire1: do you mean a virtual machine or dual boot?
[04:37] <Crozar> no not the people who build them , the people build them but the pipe lines for the built program must take place and the builders dont have authority to make it do the things which also needs permission act , ubuntu and linux Distro must work on thiS!!! pgan
[04:37] <tatterdemalian> Hate just doesn't motivate people any more, thank gawd
[04:37] <desertc> Campfire1: The installation program will help you get a dual boot configuration by repartitioning your Windows partition
[04:37] <nickrud> drulux: it's kinda awkward (or not) but you can use xchat->network list and select an additional server.
[04:38] <central> hello Please I use ubuntu 7.10 and i want to know how to start as root user ?
[04:38] <nickrud> !sudo | central (and sudo -i will give you a root shell)
[04:38] <ubotu> central (and sudo -i will give you a root shell): sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:38] <drulux> nickrud: Ya I noticed. Isn't there a command though?
[04:39] <nickrud> drulux: probably, but I'm (still) irc illiterate
[04:39] <Campfire1> ty desert
[04:39] <drulux> Haha okay.
[04:39] <central> ok thanks
[04:39] <drulux> Well thanks.
[04:39] <pgan> Crozar: Ubuntu only has a small workforce.  And, yes it is talking to the developers of gnome apps for example.  But it's better if you yourself talk to them on mailing lists and submit bug reports
[04:39] <Vovk> central: you will not need to actually log in as the root user, instead use the command sudo in front of textual things that you need root permissions for and gksudo in front of GUI commands you need root permissions for
[04:39] <tatterdemalian> If Linux ever replaced Windows, it would become just as "evil," anyhow... mostly because Microsoft isn't evil, just incompetant, as all large organizations must become
[04:39] <dwiel> anyone know a command that I can type while a script is running so that it flashes when it is done?
[04:39] <dwiel> like gaim does when you get an IM
[04:39] <fous> I have a dell wireless card and I used the windows drivers with the app wireless network driver utility but my issue is how to make it run at start up
[04:39] <desertc> nickrud: I think there's a reason why root login is difficult to obtain ... maybe not a  good idea to tell people how to bypass sudo
[04:40] <Crozar> i never knew i would find such a system and with all my life windows is just crap compared to linux and mac , im involved waay much into using the internet , using very important accesories , im a guy who want my printer to work , mouse keyboard touch screen cd r drive and have important app's like paltalk realplayer ect..
[04:40] <nickrud> desertc: that's not bypassing sudo, that's a feature that sudo has
[04:40] <cerealkiller> hey how can dual linus OS my pc, i mean installing 2 linux distro
[04:40] <desertc> cerealkiller: just set it up in grub
[04:40] <nickrud> desertc: useful when doing multiple commands in /var/www for example
[04:40] <cerealkiller> how
[04:41] <desertc> nickrud: Oh, I see.  Sorry!
[04:41] <drulux> Sweet.
[04:41] <Crozar> pgan, desertc i am very much involved i submit'ed to bugs from my 11 i have found , i cant blame it to be bugs but it might be a conflict or just a hair stuck on my lens . i am hopeing myself to write a book of needs and wants from the world to linux but i dont think they will read such lo
[04:41] <nickrud> I don't think windows is evil or corrupt or incompetent, they just have this incredibly diverse user base they have to satisfy, with ancient/cutting edge hardware. I hate how they hide the metal from me, though
[04:42] <tatterdemalian> Heck, Linux isn't even particularly competant either, even at 5% of Windows' size... my wlan card won't run right
[04:42] <desertc> Crozar: You might consider talking about this in #ubuntu-offtopic - better reception
[04:42] <djmeltdown_> hi everyone
[04:42] <desertc> hi
[04:42] <desertc> !hi
[04:42] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:42]  * nickrud just spend 20 minutes figuring out why his net stopped working
[04:42] <djmeltdown_> just finished my ubuntu uprgade to 7.1
[04:42] <djmeltdown_> love it
[04:42] <tatterdemalian> And nobody seems to know why
[04:42] <desertc> 7.10
[04:42] <cerealkiller> how can i install a widget in ubuntu
[04:42] <desertc> 7 is year, 10 is month
[04:42] <djmeltdown_> oh, learned something new today
[04:43] <Crozar> hehe nickrud i understand , but peep's who are professional with windows understand every thing in windows , by even calculating such .dll files those people can consider windows th best , they run at 8 processes all the time imagine that 8 processes from the world who runs windows with 30 + processes~!
[04:43] <Crozar> desertc, its a st0ners house theyr
[04:43] <djmeltdown_> question tho...
[04:43] <Crozar> desertc, nobody talks
[04:43] <djmeltdown_> i installed samba, but im having trouble seeing other MS windows workstations in my workgroup
[04:43] <djmeltdown_> i made sure they were all set to MSHOME
[04:43] <desertc> It'd pretty active, usually -- and this channel is for support
[04:44] <cerealkiller> how can i install a widget in ubuntu
[04:44] <nickrud> Crozar: good point, but I can't rip out 80% of windows and still have a functioning machine, I could with ubuntu
[04:44] <desertc> !patience > cerealkiller
[04:44] <thenewguy1216> anyone out there who could help me change the boot order in the boot loader?
[04:44] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, watch the youtube guide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad17kma8rNM
[04:44] <desertc> thenewguy1216: google grub settings
[04:44] <thenewguy1216> thx
[04:44] <pgan> thenewguy1216, what boot loader are you using?
[04:44] <sethk> djmeltdown_, sometimes you need to override the user name and password with one that exists on the windows side.  I think enabling guest on the windows side is another alternative.
[04:44] <nickrud> thenewguy1216: you'd do it by renumbering in /etc/rc2.d, but you really shouldn't, many of them start in parallel
[04:44] <djmeltdown_> crozar - will do, is there a guide to compiz-fusion too, i can get to the settings, but i dont know the keyboard shortcuts to make anything function
[04:44] <TwoD> nickrud: hehe, true, but functioning =/= useful ;)
[04:44] <tatterdemalian> nickrud: I could... all it really needs is DOS and HIMEM64
[04:44] <Jupp2> djmeltdown_, did you turn the samba service on?
[04:45] <Crozar> cerealkiller, widgets you can use screenlets and have it attached with compiz manager or just get gDesklets
[04:45] <sethk> thenewguy1216, you just edit the file and move the lines
[04:45] <cerealkiller> thanks
[04:45] <nickrud> TwoD: who needs more than mutt, elm, elinks, and g++ ?:)
[04:45] <TwoD> haha
[04:45] <sethk> thenewguy1216, assuming you know which file and which lines, of course  :)
[04:45] <bluefox83> drwxr-xr-x  2 bluefox bluefox   4096 2007-07-30 14:17 tmp  <---what does the number 4096 represent?
[04:45] <thenewguy1216> grub, as far as I know
[04:45] <sethk> bluefox83, size of the file
[04:45] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, you just got ubuntu fresh install out of the box? wat is it gnome or kde?
[04:45] <mcgrew> dfcarney: cat  /proc/partitions gave me a list. it seems the external is both sdb and sdb1
[04:46] <tatterdemalian> Heck, I used to code DLLs using EDLIN
[04:46] <nickrud> tatterdemalian: but what would you run? (I'm getting way off topic, so I'll leave the last word)
[04:46] <thenewguy1216> yah, I'm poking around in menu.lst
[04:46] <bluefox83> sethk, there's no way, i have dozens of none-related files that all say 4096
[04:46] <thenewguy1216> hopefully this works out
[04:46] <sethk> bluefox83, directories always show as 4096
[04:46] <mcgrew> so what command do I need to feed it to make it mount?
[04:46] <cerealkiller> i cant uninstall wine
[04:46] <djmeltdown_> crozar - i upgraded, but i did a complete install... gnome i believe
[04:46]  * TwoD ponders if he should go to bed... 5:45am here and I finally got my svn-server up!
[04:46] <djmeltdown_> way i can check?
[04:46] <sethk> bluefox83, in unix, a directory is really another type of file, and it has a fixed initial size of 4096
[04:46] <tatterdemalian> EDLIN had an integrated disassembler, not many people know that
[04:46] <desertc> tatterdemalian: EDLIN... lol  -- what - couldn't handle DEBUG ?
[04:47] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, last question to my basis , when you  upgraded from feisty did you had compiz installed at feisty before upgradeing?
[04:47] <djmeltdown_> nope
[04:47] <bluefox83> sethk, any reason why whenever i move a file over to my nfs server, it gets the user group number of 1000?
[04:47] <bluefox83> and why my nfs mount is listen as 1000?
[04:47] <bluefox83> it was 1001
[04:47] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, good , you have saved 20 minutes of my time :D
[04:47] <djmeltdown_> glad i could help
[04:47] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, you need !ccsm
[04:47] <xidox> .cl
[04:47] <Crozar> !ccsm
[04:47] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[04:47] <djmeltdown_> i already sudo apt-got ccsm
[04:48] <djmeltdown_> its installed
[04:48] <tatterdemalian> desertc: I knew people who could... I never got that far though, because MASM came out
[04:48] <djmeltdown_> !ccsm
[04:48] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, then you can press system > prefrences > advanced compiz setin
[04:48] <desertc> tatterdemalian: I barely touched either one, except to run patches.
[04:48] <Crozar> i mean advanced desktop effect settings djmeltdown_
[04:48] <ztomic> woo-hoo! Feisty works so much betta on older machines.
[04:48] <flypp3r> Is there a reason that my Google Browser Sync for Firefox makes the browser go extremely slow?  I'm on amd64 7.10
[04:48] <martman> anyone running JeOS in a vmware? i cant seem to get my fresh install to finish booting
[04:49] <martman> not sure what could be wrong
[04:49] <djmeltdown_> crozar - ok, i went in a tooled with it today, and set up the cube settings, but how do use it??  when i press alt+tab, i still get a scroll with my open windows instead of a cube
[04:49] <bluefox83> sethk, when i rsync a file over to my fileserver, or just plain move it on nfs, the files get the group owner 100or 1000
[04:49] <tatterdemalian> MASM was awesome... I wrote an entire 3d engine in it, that interfaced with DirectX 9
[04:49] <Crozar> ztomic, what do you mean >? gutsy is very good aswell , its maybe you have the known issues and its already solved like resoloution , graphics , and network failure
[04:49] <Crozar> oh
[04:49] <Crozar> try Ctrl + ALT + right arrow
[04:49] <GeekChick|> How do you configure the grub boot loader graphically? Everytime I update ubuntu in anyway it just steals the top position in the boot order and I want Windows XP to always be first. In fact, this time it deleted Windows XP so it could be at the top. I'd like to prevent this from ever occurring again.
[04:50] <djmeltdown_> crozar - ctrl+alt+right arrow shifts me to the next desktop
[04:50] <ztomic> Crozar:  Main problem is that Daphne wont run on fresh install.
[04:50] <nickrud> GeekChick|: move the windows stanza above the line that has BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNEL CONFIG (or some such)
[04:50] <broken> omg
[04:50] <nickrud> GeekChick|: it'll stay at the top permanently
[04:50] <Midtronic> GeekChick|: check /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:50] <broken> ubuntu doesn't see that i have 1400x900
[04:51] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, you can configure your bindings in many ways by going in the cube or forexample any plugin and clickong on the action tab you will see bindings , click on the arrow
[04:51] <GeekChick|> nickrud, it has not staid at the top for the last 3 times and i moved the windows stanza to the top last itme
[04:51] <nickrud> GeekChick|: above that line, and it'll stay untouched.
[04:51] <tatterdemalian> I should put "girl" in my name somewhere... people would be falling all over themselves to help me then
[04:51] <djmeltdown_> crozar , so in short i can set my own shortcut keys
[04:51] <kolinab> can I ask someone a question about installing a program from a tarball?
[04:51] <Midtronic> tatterdemalian: I know, right?
[04:51] <Crozar> ztomic, im not a fan of Daphne what good does it do :p teach me so i can be a part of your world brother
[04:51] <ztomic> yeah i know it's silly but ...
[04:51] <rj__> does any one know the beryl project?
[04:51] <Midtronic> I try to be gender neutral and only answer things I know how to do :-P
[04:51] <Crozar> yes djmeltdown_ example how many windows y ou ahve running now?
[04:52] <GeekChick|> tatterdemalian, lol
[04:52] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, clikc the windows icon the one that is in your keyboard between Ctrl and ALT , click on that icon hold it and click TAB]
[04:52] <GeekChick|> tatterdemalian, you're more likely to get A/S/L Cam/Pic
[04:52] <nickrud> tatterdemalian: ah, I take good care of poor kids, too :)
[04:52] <tatterdemalian> Midtronic: Me too, that's why I'm sitting here reminiscing about assemblers instead of helping
[04:52] <james296> does anyone know if its possible to install the 32 bit version of Ubuntu over the 64 bit version without having to reformat the HD?
[04:52] <Midtronic> haha
[04:53] <Midtronic> tatterdemalian: well, maybe you can help this... if I update /etc/hosts.allow or hosts.deny, can I push those changes to my kernel without rebooting?
[04:53] <thenewguy1216> how do I access /boot/grub/menu.lst with the necessary permissions to save the file?
[04:53] <nickrud> james296: yes, just tell the installer to wipe that partition
[04:53] <Crozar> desktop cube > action tab > general click on the arrow , you will see the bindings which you want to reconfigure djmeltdown_
[04:53] <Midtronic> since I updated to gutsy I can't ssh into this box via wan
[04:53] <nickrud> thenewguy1216: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:54] <tatterdemalian> Midtronic: Nope, sorry... I may be god of machine code, but I'm still a Linux n00b
[04:54] <james296> Im sorry, I meant the entire HD including Ubuntu itself..
[04:54] <Crozar> can any1 help me make touch screen work? i installed ezpoint and nothing worked yet
[04:54] <thenewguy1216> nickrud: how do I start that up
[04:54] <james296> I dont wanna lose the way I have all the settings set at and I cant use Opera since Im running the 64 bit version :-(
[04:54] <rj__> how do i get a pic behind the cube while transparent beryl
[04:54] <Midtronic> tatterdemalian: wish I'd had you when I was taking a systems class ;-)
[04:55] <nickrud> thenewguy1216: apps->accessories->terminal, type it there. The terminal is where you do any system level work.
[04:55] <thenewguy1216> thanks
[04:55] <Midtronic> james296: there's a fix/hack/thing to get such things as java and flash working on 64-bit machines
[04:55] <Midtronic> but it's mozilla-based, not opera
[04:56] <Nutubuntu> I'm running 32bit Feisty on my A64 X2 desktop box and figuring to upgrade to Gutsy. What should I be concerned about? And what should I expect to need to reconfigure after the upgrade? Java? Sound stuff? Nvidia stuff? How has it gone for people?
[04:56] <GeekChick|> nickrud, thank you. that worked (until next time)
[04:56] <james296> but I want Opera...lol, without having to lose everything on my Ubuntu partition, is this possible or not?
[04:56] <Midtronic> Nutubuntu: I dist-upgraded on the same proc., but I'm 64-bit linux
[04:56] <Midtronic> I had no issues
[04:56] <nickrud> GeekChick|: try sudo update-grub, and reboot. That's the command that the kernel upgrade uses to rebuild grub. See if it survives
[04:56] <tatterdemalian> Midtronic: No you don't... it's like having the King of Slide Rules in your class: fun the first time you see him work his magic, but by the end of the day you're about to make him wish his slipstick really was that slippery
[04:56] <bluefox83> i seem to be having trouble mv'ing files from one directory to another in terminal, isn't it simply mv foo/ bar/
[04:57] <djmeltdown_> ok - i figured out how to rotate the screen, but it seems like my cube is a square, its only 2D, has front and back, no top and bottom
[04:57] <Crozar> many people keep saying i dont want to learn about linux i want the programs insatlled like in windows , ( well here is an answer . before compiz , when it was manual , the geeks had them first and was ok , then made a video , the noobs was i want that , then said comon make it easy install wtf is this ,.. here goes life ) if the people dont learn linux then by days and times new stuff will come created by the community the fan lovers the ge
[04:57] <Crozar> eks , and they will not put tutorials but speak by 2 - 4 sentences geek understanding and they will be the only ones to have them , the wants who undersatnd linux , but the noobs will suffer unless they buy support or learn themselves ... or wait for help on a cry prayer
[04:57] <desertc> Nutubuntu: nice nick... I'm running 64b -- no worries
[04:57] <ikon> desertc: are you geek?
[04:57] <james296> whats everyones opinion on the Aerora theme engine?
[04:58] <Nutubuntu> Midtronic,  desertc, thanks both. 64bit working well for you? I am guessing I ought to stay with 32bit since I'm running it now and don't want to do a full reinstall
[04:58] <nickrud> Nutubuntu: I always update in place, make sure you have no third party repos enabled, and if you used automatix, all bets are off
[04:58] <shinygiftson> hi all
[04:58] <tatterdemalian> Yay, I spent 20 years learning how to write assembler programs with hex editors, and what is that skill good for today? Jack squit.
[04:58] <desertc> !hi
[04:58] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:58] <jturek> hey, how do i get my virtual consoles working in Gutsy,  when i hit ALT-F1 or whatever, usually it drops me to a shell,  but now it just goes to a blank screen
[04:58] <desertc> tatterdemalian: embedded processing is the new plastics
[04:59] <nickrud> jturek: ati chip?
[04:59] <Midtronic> Nutubuntu: it works well for me.. I've only had a few issues.  It took me a while to get flash working.. the only thing that's really pissed me off has been that there's some texmaker bug so that it won't run on 64-bit systems... which really sucked when I had to do a research paper
[04:59] <Nutubuntu> Thanks nickrud - no automatix, but I do have some additional repos enabled ... I'll go turn those off first...
[04:59] <Midtronic> I wrote it inside a 32-bit ubuntu virtual machine
[04:59] <jturek> nickrud: intel
[04:59] <shinygiftson> while i'm trying to upgrade my ubuntu to the latest one, i'm getting  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:59] <pgan> Crozar: While things are experimental, they are not always stable, easy to use and documented
[04:59] <nickrud> jturek: then I don't know, I have an ati and had problems when using fglrx
[04:59] <jturek> nickrud: 82915G
[05:00] <Nutubuntu> Midtronic,  latex is a big deal for me right now ... in fact, back in Dapper, I think, I had to backport it to get pdftex working ...
[05:00] <shinygiftson> wht should i do to debugg
[05:00] <shinygiftson> ?
[05:00] <jturek> nickrud: i thought maybe it was my resolution or something,  so i did VGA=792
[05:00] <jturek> and it still doesn't work
[05:00] <Midtronic> yeah.  LaTeX works just fine.. it's just texmaker that doesn't
[05:00] <tatterdemalian> pgan: Too bad nothing in Linux ever moves past the "experimental" phase
[05:00] <nickrud> shinygiftson: could you put the complete run of apt-get -f install on a pastebin (if that doesn't fix it)
[05:00] <Midtronic> I should have written it in vim :P
[05:00] <Crozar> i have a wacom touch screen while its not working out of th ebox :/ is it a conflict?
[05:00] <bluefox83> tatterdemalian, everything does
[05:00] <Nutubuntu> Um ... yah ... sure ... ::backs away slowly::
[05:00] <FireHazrd> Hello, Im having an issue with add/remove in 7.10 fresh install. The list of applications is not available... I am connected to the internet using a wireless connection.
[05:01] <shinygiftson> nickrud: i tried tht also
[05:01]  * nickrud wonders about tex , experimental?
[05:01] <vladuz976> i need info on font.conf file, and what I can do with it. I can't find good resources. can anybody point me to information?
[05:01] <Evanlec> Crozar, try apt-get install wacom-tools
[05:01] <BADKITTY> after I install virtualbox, is there any other packages I need to install for it to work?
[05:01] <tatterdemalian> bluefox83: Only if it has to, like your customers are threatening lawsuits. No customers, no lawsuits, no progress
[05:01] <Crozar> Evanlec, you have a touchscreen/
[05:01] <tatterdemalian> Hell, even grep is still in beta
[05:01] <Evanlec> Crozar, no i just have a regular wacom tablet
[05:02] <Midtronic> vladuz976: read the manpage? (man 5 fonts-conf)
[05:02] <nickrud> vladuz976: http://fontconfig.org/fontconfig-user.html
[05:02] <Crozar> Evanlec, btw wacom is hp? or compaq?
[05:02] <pgan> tatterdemalian: I agree a lot of things should be easier to use.  I make long lists of those and post them as bug reports, describe how things should work
[05:02] <Evanlec> Crozar, i dno, i thot wacom was wacom
[05:02] <Crozar> oh
[05:02] <Crozar> my laptop is not wacom
[05:02] <bluefox83> tatterdemalian, they keep the projects open so they can continue to develop things and make them better, it's a lot more than can be said of anything done in windows
[05:02] <Crozar> its hp
[05:02] <Evanlec> Crozar, yea...but wacom made the touchscreen
[05:02] <Midtronic> tatterdemalian: I dunno if experimental/beta are the right words.. how about feature-rich and under development?
[05:02] <Midtronic> euphemisms :-)
[05:02] <Crozar> Evanlec, :D
[05:02] <Nutubuntu> So ... dist-upgrade would go like (1) make sure ubuntu-desktop's installed, (2) disable third party repositories, (3) run the upgrade tool, (4) smile and pour a cool refreshing beverage ... more or less ... ?
[05:03] <Evanlec> Crozar, cuz thats what they make ;)
[05:03] <shinygiftson> nickrud: even i tried to fix broken packages using synoptic manager
[05:03] <FireHazrd> Is anyone else having issues with add/remove - 7.10?
[05:03] <shinygiftson> but i couldn't
[05:03] <Crozar> Evanlec, then i need wacom-tools
[05:03] <tatterdemalian> bluefox: Yeah, in Windows they finish one project before going to the next... sometimes
[05:03] <shinygiftson> mono-xsp and mono-xsp2 r broken
[05:03] <Evanlec> Crozar, it might help, i never heard of touch-screen + ubuntu tho, it might be unsupported
[05:03] <nickrud> shinygiftson: then the pastebin would be helpful, the real problems will be mentioned before that error message you spoke of
[05:03] <Crozar> :(
[05:03] <bluefox83> or in the case of windows itself, they release it broken, and leave millions upon millions of filed bugs unfixed
[05:03] <Midtronic> I'd rather have a project that works where there's still stuff to do than a broken unfinished project.  Plus the nature of open source is sort of.. buggy
[05:04] <bluefox83> where-as in linux, the community goes out of it's way to fix bugs
[05:04] <nickrud> mmm, bugzilla, good
[05:04] <Evanlec> Crozar, esp if its really new, and a little exotic
[05:04] <desertc> tatterdemalian: why do you say grep is in beta?
[05:04] <bruenig> grep in beta?
[05:04] <Crozar> Evanlec, many people like touchscreen for private purposes
[05:04] <bluefox83> grep is no-where near beta
[05:04] <Crozar> Evanlec, example , presentation
[05:04] <nickrud> ok, this is a bit over the top, grep vs compiz
[05:05] <tatterdemalian> Midtronic: In that case, I'm an experienced youngish cuddly male who is good with his hand
[05:05] <bluefox83> grep is used in production servers, and has been for a long time now
[05:05] <Midtronic> tatterdemalian: you should get a touchscreen... for private purposes.
[05:05] <tatterdemalian> Instead of a fat old geek with a sticky keyboard
[05:05] <Midtronic> I'm a moderately experienced young geek, I suppose.
[05:06] <bruenig> grep > compiz
[05:06] <nickrud> grep >> most tools
[05:06] <djmeltdown_> anyone know why my compiz cube is 2d only
[05:06] <bruenig> two >'s?
[05:06] <djmeltdown_> ?
[05:06]  * bluefox83 24, my body isn't exactly a runner's body, but it's not fat, and my keyboard is far from sticky
[05:06] <nickrud> much greater than
[05:06] <bruenig> sed > grep
[05:06] <Frogzoo> djmeltdown_: cos compiz isn't running
[05:06] <desertc> grep: Do one thing, and do it well.
[05:06] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, you need to add more windows to make it a CUBE :)
[05:06] <bruenig> grep does a lot of things actually
[05:07] <bluefox83> djmeltdown_, add more work desktops/work spaces to it
[05:07] <Nutubuntu> grep 'grep' beta
[05:07] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, you mean 2 D as 1 paper double side
[05:07] <stephans> did the Gonme Screensaver applet get simplified?!
[05:07] <rabidweezle> Trying to upgrade using update manager to gutsy from feisty
[05:07] <nickrud> stephans: it's lobotomized
[05:07] <kolinab> I downloaded a program as a tarball (http://sourceforge.net/projects/golly/) and just extracted it to the desktop. It runs except crashes if I open the preferences or help menu. Do I need to compile it or something? Or install it in some better fashion?
[05:07] <Frogzoo> stephans: sadly yes
[05:07] <djmeltdown_> crozar - i have 4 desktops, but only 1 has active programs running, for some reason it wont let me send a window to another desktop
[05:07] <Crozar> yes djmeltdown_
[05:07] <rabidweezle> get an error: Failed to fetch http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu/dists/feisty/motu/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found and Failed to fetch http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/dists/feisty/a/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found
[05:07] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, do you have expo plugin enabled?
[05:07] <stephans> How can I edit the individual screensavers now?
[05:08] <nickrud> rabidweezle: you should disable all 3d party repos while upgrading
[05:08] <Midtronic> comment out those servers in your sources.list
[05:08] <rabidweezle> k
[05:08] <djmeltdown_> again, not sure, where would i check
[05:08] <tatterdemalian> stephans: You don't, I've tried
[05:08] <ikon> desertc: are you a geek?
[05:08] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, Expo go in that and click actions  , its  in ccsm
[05:08] <stephans> damn!
[05:08] <stephans> that sucks!
[05:08] <nickrud> I wonder if xscreensaver still works in place of the gnome one
[05:09] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, the place where you did your own bindings
[05:09] <Midtronic> ikon: I'm going to go ahead and say that you can assume that if someone is on IRC, he's probably a geek
[05:09] <stephans> I like GLSlideshow...  and I want to tell it to use my own pictures.
[05:09] <tatterdemalian> I think they took out all the options the screensavers used to support... I managed to change the command line and environment variables, but they had no effect at all
[05:09] <djmeltdown_> i just enabled it
[05:09] <riotkittie> Midtronic: wrong.
[05:09] <ikon> why Midtronic?
[05:09] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, i want you to bind expo ( the current bidnings is Super + E , leave that but beside it is None ok right unders screen edge double click it and tick on TopLeft and press ok
[05:10] <Midtronic> maybe it's just me.  Mostly because the only people I've ever known who ever use IRC are geeks
[05:10] <riotkittie> i've been on irc since 94, and i'm so not a geek.
[05:10] <tatterdemalian> Midtronic: I dunno, AOL and mIRC have lowered the bar
[05:10] <Nutubuntu> Midtronic may be wrong, but it's a fair bet that if someone's in debian.gr he's a greek
[05:10] <Midtronic> tatterdemalian: true.. mIRC at least has a functional, decently powerful scripting language.  It gave me the foundations of programming, back in the day
[05:10] <nickrud> riotkittie: you made a ralink work, you're tagged, for better or worse
[05:10] <tatterdemalian> I've known some really ignorant rednecks on IRC... never in the programming channels though
[05:11] <tarelerulz> Is there any way to clone a hard drive with XP and Ubuntu on it?
[05:11] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, now put your mouse pointer to the edge of topleft and tell me how many desktops you see
[05:11] <riotkittie> nickrud: i used ndiswrapper and windows drivers.
[05:11] <shinygiftson> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44681/
[05:11] <shinygiftson> this is the full track of the error
[05:11] <hhp2k> Hey everyone.. just installed a fresh Gutsy and wanting to configure compiz, but the config tool isn't installed (odd.) Tried command-line "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-setting-manager" but it couldn
[05:11] <Midtronic> tarelerulz: clone?
[05:11] <hhp2k> *couldn't find it. All repo's enabled in Synaptic.
[05:11] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, compiz has wonders :D , you must see the shiftswitcher aswell ( windows icon button + TAB )
[05:11] <tatterdemalian> They're the guys that spam you with ten million A/S/L messages whenever you enter #freemp3s
[05:11] <BADKITTY> Crozar: dusion rocks hu?
[05:12]  * rabidweezle kills all the 3rd party repos and starts the upgrade
[05:12] <Midtronic> tatterdemalian: touche.
[05:12] <BADKITTY> Crozar: Compiz-Fusion**
[05:12] <rabidweezle> thanks for the info :)
[05:12] <tarelerulz> Midtronic , an exact copy of the information on the hard drive .
[05:12] <Crozar> btw djmeltdown_ if want to add more work space , dont do it through ubuntu coz now compiz is incharge  , so go in ccsm click on General options then DesktopSize tab add it from theyr and check it out
[05:12] <nickrud> shinygiftson: If we're really lucky,   sudo invoke-rc.d mono-xsp start  will fix that
[05:12] <Crozar> BADKITTY, yes girl
[05:12] <djmeltdown_> crozar - ok, now i'm able to send windows to different desktops, but i still only have a 2d sheet of paper
[05:12] <Midtronic> tarelerulz: dd will do a bit-for-bit copy
[05:13] <rabidweezle> crud
[05:13] <domor> Hello
[05:13] <rabidweezle> need to free up some disk space :o
[05:13] <rabidweezle> man, one of those days I NEED to get an ide controller...
[05:13] <shinygiftson> i'm getting  * Sorry, there is already a xsp running, stop it first nickrud
[05:13] <ikon> where are you from Midtronic?
[05:14] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, when you add more workspace it will become a box , more you go th emore it becomes better , btw if you will want to make it a cube i want you to enable cube reflection so the cube looks slick :)
[05:14] <Midtronic> US, east coast.  Originally near Philly
[05:14] <tarelerulz> Midtronic , Thanks for the help . I did not know that. I was going to get norton ghost program to do it ,but if I don't have to then that would be better
[05:14] <domor> How can't boot into ubuntu my screen turns off when starting up, this started happening after installing "restricted driver"for video card
[05:14] <nickrud> shinygiftson: does mono-xsp have a command front end? like mono-xsp stop?
[05:14] <riotkittie> although i did get it to work with the serial monkey drivers under feisty. hmm.
[05:14] <nickrud> lol
[05:14] <tomd> tarelerulz: you can do this with norton ghost. i don't know of a free software alternative but I'm sure there is one. just look on the net, youll need to use a livecd and put both hard drives in one machine, if you're on a laptop, thats a bit more complicated
[05:14] <scguy318> domor: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in Recovery Mode
[05:15] <domor> O Ok
[05:15] <shinygiftson> no
[05:15] <shinygiftson> nickrud: no
[05:15] <Crozar> BADKITTY, how bad are you?
[05:15] <tarelerulz> Well, tomd I am on laptop  .  I will look into it
[05:16] <rockets> can somebody help me with my sound issue? Sound only works in Gnome-apss
[05:16] <rockets> apps*
[05:16] <Crozar> BADKITTY, i mean my first question is how is you great or fat
[05:16] <nickrud> shinygiftson: ok, then could you put the contents of the file /var/lib/dpkg/info/mono-xsp.prerm on a pastebin
[05:16] <broken> Anyone use the X1950Pro ATi card with ubuntu succesfully?
[05:16] <Midtronic> tarelerulz: on the upside, norton ghost is probably more user-friendly
[05:16] <rockets> e.g. if i use pidgin in kde i get sound
[05:16] <domor> scguy318: what happens when you put that command in" im a newbie
[05:16] <rockets> but not if i use kopete
[05:16] <tomd> tarelerulz. your problem is that of sending the drive image somewhere, you can use ethernet, serial, a usb hard drive
[05:16] <Midtronic> rockets: check what your sound output plugin is in gnome
[05:16] <Nutubuntu> So ... dist-upgrade would go like (1) make sure ubuntu-desktop's installed, (2) disable third party repositories -- including archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial? -- (3) run the upgrade tool, (4) smile and pour a cool refreshing beverage ... more or less ... ?
[05:16] <Midtronic> kopete/etc. are probably trying to use a different one
[05:16] <shinygiftson> nickrud: ok
[05:16] <riotkittie> ew. this is getting creepy.
[05:16] <nickrud> !upgrade | Nutubuntu (but that's essentially it)
[05:16] <ubotu> Nutubuntu (but that's essentially it): For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:16] <rockets> Midtronic: huh. . . . I'm talking about getting sound in KDE apps, RUNNING inside KDE.
[05:18] <ikon> i need a basic e-book about terminal on ubuntu
[05:20] <BADKITTY> sweet .. getting virtualbox up and running
[05:20] <robert_> how do I launch X apps from a 32bit chroot'ed environment?
[05:20] <Midtronic> rockets: right.  You might need to configure KDE to use a different sound output plugin
[05:20] <Nutubuntu> t/y nickrud  (and my buddy ubotu too) :)
[05:20] <djmeltdown_> crozar - YAY! i finally got it
[05:20] <osxdude> Anyone know where the sounds for Pidgin are located?
[05:20] <tomd> tarelerulz: i've also seen devices that allow you to plug laptop hd's into desktops.. you can probably just back it up to an external drive, or, maybe use ethernet or serial.. it depends on what software you use... actually, i think you can just do this with the dd command..
[05:20] <djmeltdown_> not sure how, but i think it had to do with the virutal vertical size or something
[05:20] <shinygiftson> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44682/
[05:20] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, ya its a bug they will fix it soon
[05:20] <Crozar> i mean conflict djmeltdown_
[05:20] <djmeltdown_> this is going to take alot of tinkering to learn
[05:20] <tomd> tarelerulz: with caution, and enough space on your drive, you can probably back it up with dd if=/dev/yourharddrive (like hda, sda) of=./backupfile
[05:20] <djmeltdown_> well its working now
[05:20] <djmeltdown_> hehe
[05:20] <Crozar> good to hear that djmeltdown_
[05:20] <riotkittie> djmeltdown_: virtual horizontal size
[05:20] <BADKITTY> I'm thinking since I have dual monitors and twinview + compiz-fusion, I'll have a linux desktop on one monitor, and winxp on the other (of course with compuz cube enabled)
[05:20] <djmeltdown_> im starting to think learning PHP is easier...lol
[05:20] <rockets> Midtronic: ok
[05:20] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, i failed my course just to learn how to run compiz in feisty and many other stuff like my laptopscreen
[05:20] <brettmr> Hey, So i recently got a DELL 20" widescreen flat panel, and i have not been able to get it working with my laptop yet, as Extended Desktop. I have an intel video card
[05:20] <djmeltdown_> failed course on what PHP?
[05:20] <brettmr> i have been playing around with Xrandr, but so far no luck
[05:20] <Evanlec> tomd, is he trying to backup his whole filesystem?
[05:20] <tomd> evanlec: his entire drive with xp/ubuntu
[05:20] <Midtronic> Evanlec: whole hdd
[05:20] <Evanlec> oh i c
[05:20] <nickrud> shinygiftson: ok, on line two in that file, put    exit 0
[05:20] <Evanlec> back it up to where tho
[05:20] <scguy318> !bash | ikon
[05:20] <ubotu> ikon: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:20] <Midtronic> bedtime.  'night all
[05:20] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, and i dont want anybody who is in trouble to not be solved because everybody hashes own life , and we are all brothers in the end and put aside the ego system and life with media and politics
[05:20] <scguy318> ikon: google Linux terminal and the first hit should help you out
[05:20] <nickrud> shinygiftson: then run the apt-get -f install again. If mono-xsp is running, it'll stay running, you can kill it afterwards with sudo killall mono-xsp
[05:20] <Nutubuntu> Be well, Midtronic
[05:20] <rockets> Midtronic: the test sound plays fine. in kcontrol
[05:21] <BADKITTY> ikon: did you look on isohunt or suprnova?
[05:21] <Midtronic> ikon: http://pizza.unbsj.ca/content/help/tutorials/crash.html looks decent
[05:21] <djmeltdown_> i hear that crozar
[05:21] <Evanlec> ikon, http://www.linuxcommand.org
[05:21] <Crozar> scguy318, how can i run wacom touchscreen tablet on an hp laptop? i downloaded ezpoint
[05:21] <riotkittie> http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/linux/cmd/ is good, as well... albeit not an ebook
[05:21] <nickrud> ikon: you can find good bash manuals at tldp.org as well
[05:21] <djmeltdown_> just greatful that other peeps are willing to helpout, i pitch in when i can
[05:21] <vontux> lets say I have formated a usb drive with gparted, how can I change the hard drive over from root permissions so that I can write to it w/ lower than root level permissions?
[05:21] <rockets> Midtronic: I'm setting everything to use ALSA
[05:22] <Midtronic> rockets: sounds like a plan.. I'd love to stick around and get it working with you, but I've got work tomorrow and had a loooong day
[05:22] <Midtronic> so good luck :)
[05:22] <Evanlec> Crozar, amen
[05:22] <rockets> Midtronic: heh, thanks for your help.
[05:22] <nickrud> vontux: mount the usb drive, then use either chown or chmod to taste on it's mount point
[05:22] <rockets> im pretty sure its solved
[05:22] <djmeltdown_> crozar - how do i use the desktop zoom, i see the controls talk about <super>?
[05:22] <djmeltdown_> whats super?
[05:22] <scguy318> Crozar: no clue, sorry
[05:22] <bruenig> super is the windows logo
[05:22] <djmeltdown_> oh, thanks
[05:22] <vontux> nickrud: thank you sir
[05:23] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, super is thewindows key ( its the key on your keyboard that is between Control and ALT )
[05:23] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, its windows button  logo
[05:23] <cake4567> hey
[05:23] <cake4567> I need help finding the location of my firefox profile info
[05:23] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, hold super and use your mousewheel
[05:23] <Crozar> cake4567, everything in yourhomefolder
[05:23] <xcl> hi all
[05:23] <cake4567> I'm in my home folder
[05:23] <cake4567> cake4567/home
[05:23] <desertc> !enter
[05:24] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:24] <Crozar> cake4567, press Control +H to show hidden files then click .mozilla or search firefox , somthin liek that you will find
[05:24] <vontux> nickrud: I tried to do the same thing earlier w/ no luck, I must have mistyped the command I think I did chmod ugo + r w or something
[05:24] <nickrud> cake4567: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/
[05:24] <vontux> the space screwed me up :(
[05:24] <shinygiftson> thx nickrud :)
[05:24] <nickrud> vontux: yup, no spaces
[05:24] <shinygiftson> its updated
[05:24] <ikon> thanks
[05:24] <cake4567> if .mozilla isn't in the home folder what do I do then nick?
[05:24] <nickrud> shinygiftson: yw
[05:24] <shinygiftson> is it make any problem to run mono nickrud?
[05:24] <xcl> I installed  vmware workstation 6 in my ubuntu 7.10 ,then installed gentoo in vmware ,but gentoo can't fond eth0 and eth1 ,why ???
[05:25] <riotkittie> cake4567: are you viewing hidden files? CTRL +H in nautilus  ... ls -a in a term
[05:25] <nickrud> cake4567: then you don't have a firefox profile
[05:25] <Evanlec> cake4567, .mozilla not in homefolder? well that just won't do!
[05:25] <nickrud> cake4567: try ls -a ~/.* :)
[05:25] <xcl> anyone can help me ?
[05:26] <Nutubuntu> !ask | xcl
[05:26] <ubotu> xcl: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:26] <nickrud> shinygiftson: no freaking clue, I know nothing about mono.
[05:26] <desertc> xcl: VMware isn't a good topic for this channel
[05:26] <Evanlec> Nutubuntu, he did ask a question above
[05:26] <cake4567> it has my passwords memorized so I must have a profile?
[05:26] <Crozar> i downloaded evtouch , its a touchscreen driver ,and it still doesnt work , must i get wacom-tools aswell >?>? to work tablet touchscreen?
[05:26] <Nutubuntu> Sorry xcl, Evanlec ... I think my coffee quotient is finally too low for intelligent survival
[05:26] <Evanlec> xcl, besides vmware, gentoo is a whole nother level of complication
[05:26] <brettmr> Hey, So i recently got a DELL 20" widescreen flat panel, and i have not been able to get it working with my laptop yet, as Extended Desktop. I have an intel video card
[05:26] <nickrud> xcl: the gentoo people would know much more about how it acts inside a vmware machine
[05:26] <brettmr> i have been playing around with Xrandr, but so far no luck
[05:26] <scguy318> xcl: ask the #gentoo people
[05:26] <Evanlec> Nutubuntu, lol
[05:27] <brettmr> Any ideas?
[05:27] <BADKITTY> xcl: You should try out virtualbox anyway
[05:27] <cake4567> that terminal code didnt list the profile folder
[05:27] <eazyass> when i try to compile something and get
[05:27] <eazyass> test1.c:(.text+0x1f4): undefined reference to `ga_chromosome_char_to_staticstring'
[05:27] <eazyass> /usr/local/lib/libgaul.so: undefined reference to `random_unit_gaussian'
[05:27] <eazyass> what does that mean i have to do
[05:28] <eazyass> i installed it with the standard ./configure;make;make install
[05:28] <djmeltdown_> crozar - ok, now im getting a grasp on this, what are some cool things to do..
[05:28] <cake4567> stupid me...hidden folder!
[05:28] <BADKITTY> djmeltdown: for what?
[05:28] <xcl> I have two operation system in my notebook,one XP ,one ubuntu,i think i can't use my xp vmware hard disk in ubuntu ,so use vmware,not use virtuabox
[05:28] <djmeltdown_> compiz - bad kitty
[05:28] <Evanlec> hmm, cool things to do on linux....well u could recompile your kernel!
[05:28] <Evanlec> lol
[05:29] <djmeltdown_> evan : lol thanks
[05:29] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, test :D
[05:29] <Evanlec> thats always fun :)
[05:29] <djmeltdown_> has anyone gotten a chance to use gOS yet?
[05:29] <nickrud> Evanlec: don't say that, I'm considering recompiling a kernel for the first time in years to get fglrx suspend to work :(
[05:29] <BADKITTY> xcl: I'm not sure if that made sense at all.. I have dualboot ubuntu and XP and I am installing XP in virtualbox in ubuntu right now
[05:30] <kolinab> OK, I think I might understand why this program I have extracted from a tarball keeps crashing - it seems all the files (including preferences files) are all read only for some reason - think that's why it's crashing on me?
[05:30] <BADKITTY> djmeltdown: Oh, yah Did you turn on all the effects?
[05:30] <Evanlec> nickrud, heh, i recently have been doing kernel compiles, i had done it before 8 years ago
[05:30] <Evanlec> nickrud, but doing them just for fun / performance / tweak / learning
[05:30] <kenkenshin>    	 	 	 	 	 	   hi a lot of my windows buttons have diapered the minimize and maximize buttons are not on my windows to get out of them i am using the 7.10 ubuntu desktop
[05:30] <kenkenshin> and my terminal is not working ether it just i a white box what can i do about this what will fix it
[05:30] <kenkenshin> i just install 7.10 and it was working before it started when I installed wine
[05:30] <nickrud> Evanlec: I gave it up when they stopped releasing stable versions, around 2.6.2 or 3 or so
[05:30] <Crozar> djmeltdown_, my best is shiftswitcher , rain , expo , reflection cube , and do some random animation like vacuum for closeing stuff :D get kiba-dock to make it look like a next generation system
[05:31] <Evanlec> nickrud, ive heard ppl say that before....but um, im running 2.6.23.1 and its prety darn stable
[05:31] <Evanlec> nickrud, i wouldnt bother trying to install 2.6.24-rc2 tho
[05:31] <BADKITTY> crozar: I like expo alot and the shrink to show displays .. super+E on mine
[05:31] <nickrud> Evanlec: I wouldn't call switching out fundamental stuff like slab & slub maintaining a stable kernel tree :)
[05:32] <Shadows> werd
[05:32] <Evanlec> nickrud, well since i dont really know what those do, it doesnt seem to bother me
[05:32] <djmeltdown_> badkitty : i tried to enable them, but it seems like everything is greyed out now??
[05:32] <BADKITTY> Crozar: Do you have twinview?
[05:32] <ikon> djmeltdown: what are you talking about?
[05:32] <djmeltdown_> ikon : compiz effects
[05:32] <Crozar> BADKITTY, no its a tablet laptop
[05:32] <BADKITTY> djmeltdown: some of the plugins seem to turn others off so you gotta pay attention to that
[05:32] <cake4567> how do I move my vista firefox profile to ubuntu
[05:33] <cake4567> copying and pasting the profile folder didn't wrok
[05:33] <Crozar> cake4567, youmean bookmarks?
[05:33] <robert_> yay
[05:33] <cake4567> saved passwords etc
[05:33] <robert_> firefox32 segfaults
[05:33] <BADKITTY> Crozar: Oh ok, my cube turned into a hexagon and I have no idea why, I have it set to 4 desktops
[05:33] <robert_> for no reason
[05:33] <nickrud> Evanlec: just an example, it used to be that even point releases just got bug fixes, not major new features which broke stuff. But I can't complain, really, the kernels in debian/ubuntu are really polished, it's not the kernel guys fault that ati drivers suck
[05:33] <Crozar> cake4567, save it from the firefox menu of vista  , by clicking bookmarks manage then export , save it put it in a floppy then login ubuntu go to manage bookmarks import then import from floppy finish.
[05:34] <Nutubuntu> robert_,  only on odd-numbered or even-numbered dates
[05:34] <Evanlec> nickrud, the kernels in debian/ubuntu are designed with "enable everything even if they dont need it" philosophy
[05:34] <Shadows> ok so i've been fighting with the blankscreen ever since 5.4 and until now useing the Vesa driver has worked fine but now Ubuntu is on my main machine. The Problem is that with vesa my comp boots to blank still
[05:34] <djmeltdown_> badkitty, crozar : hmmm, it seems like ALL my options are greyed out
[05:34] <robert_> Nutubuntu, no, it segfaults under gutsy64.
[05:34] <nickrud> Evanlec: shades of microsoft :)
[05:34] <cake4567> but i'm more worried about the pword
[05:34] <Crozar> BADKITTY, go to general options , DesktopSize , and Horizantal virtual size increase that to 2 or 4
[05:34] <Evanlec> nickrud, exactly
[05:34] <robert_> and yes- I got the reference
[05:35] <Crozar> cake4567, your passwords >?
[05:35] <Evanlec> nickrud, i mean the buntu kernel is good, its hardware compatibility is definitely great, i just wanted to see if i could get a faster kernel with some more bleeding edge features ;)
[05:35] <Crozar> write the passwords down cake4567
[05:35] <Nutubuntu> robert_, all the time ... does it in Feisty 32 too, I think it's been doing this back into Dapper
[05:35] <Shadows> so what I'm trying to say is HELP :(
[05:35] <djmeltdown_> well everyone, its my bedtime, i'll play more with compiz tomorrow at work, thanks for all your help!
[05:35] <kolinab> cake4567: to my knowledge you should be able to do the same with your entire profile folder. you should be able to transplant its contents into your ubuntu profile from vista. You know how to find your profile in vista?
[05:36] <Evanlec> nickrud, are u saying that the newer vanilla kernels dont have slab?
[05:36] <Crozar> from windows firefox click edit menu > prefrences > security > Show passwords
[05:36] <nickrud> Evanlec: I'm thinking about going whole hog paring it down to my hardware, or just swap back to the old memory allocator.
[05:36] <Crozar> cake4567, then you can see the usernames and passwords for which sites , write them down.
[05:36] <BADKITTY> Crozar: it is at 4
[05:36] <nickrud> Evanlec: they switch to slub, http://lwn.net/Articles/229984/ for a quick description
[05:36] <Crozar> BADKITTY, and the last 2 are 1's?
[05:36] <Evanlec> nickrud, thx, what do u mean swap back to the old memory allocator?
[05:37] <kolinab> shouldn't he be able to transplant the profile folder into ubuntu? that's what I do with thinderbird and it keeps my extensions and everything
[05:37] <cake4567> ya I just tried copying it over
[05:37] <tomd> cake4567, What directory did you copy it to?
[05:37] <Crozar> then  from the desktop workspaces of your ubuntu change that , that requires attention because they conflict with compiz , you must appropirate them both for such numbers to get you wants , BADKITTY
[05:37] <BADKITTY> Crozar: Ok sweet I had both at 2 and that fixed it.. although is there a setting to make both monitors move as one large cube as there was with beryl?
[05:37] <cake4567> slightly different  folder setup
[05:37] <cake4567> home/.mozilla
[05:37] <nickrud> Evanlec: the old code is there, I can switch back in kconfig really easily. But I need a day when I don't really need the machine :(
[05:37] <tomd> put it on ~/.mozilla/firefox
[05:37] <Crozar> BADKITTY, large cube?
[05:38] <brettmr> You know, i don't know what to do, i've been using Ubuntu for like 2 years now on my laptop. I just got this new screen and can't get extended desktop to work.  I am considering downgrading back to feisty, but i like much of the new packages of Gutsy, not to mention that it took me like a month to set up dual head mode in feisty, and even then it wasn't True extended desktops. So i am considering firing up windows again, but i don'
[05:38] <Crozar> BADKITTY, you mean 1 paper double side?
[05:38] <cake4567> ya thats what I did
[05:38] <tomd> cake4587, try creating a profile then dumping all the files from the profile into the new profile
[05:38] <Crozar> brettmr, you dont need to downgrade
[05:38] <desertc> brettmr: Have you looked on the forums?
[05:38] <Evanlec> nickrud, so ur gonna make a super-lean kernel with only the hardware support you need, but use SLAB instead of SLUB ?
[05:38] <brettmr> yeah
[05:38] <BADKITTY> Crozar: cube with two monitors. cube goes accross both monitors instead of cubes in each individual monitor
[05:38] <brettmr> i have played around with xrandr but no luck
[05:38] <desertc> brettmr; Have you posted on the forums?
[05:39] <tomd> cake4567, that way ffox will definitely know about the profile
[05:39] <desertc> brettmr: You aren't the first person with a monitor and a laptop
[05:39] <brettmr> i think my monitor is actually too big to work well
[05:39] <kolinab> cake4567, the way I do it is, save the entire profile folder from vista. Then DELETE the information in the new ubuntu profile folder, but keep the ubuntu profile name and everything alone, then just transplant the contents from your vista profile into your ubuntu one. does that make sense?
[05:39] <CyberAgeVoodoo> hi, 2 quick questions. anyone know where the screensavers are kept in linux (directory) also... can windows screensavers be converted for linux
[05:39] <desertc> brettmr: that is an extremely common monitor
[05:39] <brettmr> from what i have read xrandr has a max virtual size
[05:39] <kenkenshin>   hi  my windows buttons have diapered the minimize and maximize buttons are not on my windows to get out of them i am using the 7.10 ubuntu desktop and my terminal is not working ether it just i a white box what can i do about this what will fix it i just install 7.10 and it was working before. it started when I installed wine a few days ago
[05:39] <nickrud> Evanlec: one or the other. I have the weekend where I won't need the laptop for work, I'm probably gonna do the replacement (and look over the config, haven't in a long time) and then decide about doing a custom one.
[05:39] <cake4567> kolinab...just tried it...no go
[05:39] <Crozar> brettmr, it runs great its just a known issue in gutsy and must do couple of things for some of the screens out theyr , but overrall people run great with gutsy only the unlucky ones have such problems , read more about xorg.conf files and fix for screen TV or crt or DFS laptop screen have an options for it like option dps true somethin like that if you need more info i might ge tyou the link
[05:40] <desertc> brettmr: I've got two and they work fine with xrandr
[05:40] <BADKITTY> Crozar: crap no it didn't fix it, it gave me a cube but only 2 desktops
[05:40] <Crozar> BADKITTY, youmust add more workspaces it shouldbe 4 to be a cube
[05:40] <Crozar> make horzinal to 4 then BADKITTY
[05:40] <kolinab> cake4567: I'm thinking. hmm
[05:40] <Evanlec> nickrud, yeah...i even tried to compile a 2.6.23 with -mm1 patch...didnt wanna behave properly tho, wasnt suprised
[05:40] <Crozar> BADKITTY, yes im using 2 desktops :p thatsmy options lo
[05:40] <nickrud> Evanlec: the restricted modules would either require manual replacement or recompile, etc. Not sure of the ramifications
[05:40] <tomd> cake4567, someone in #firefox will probably know why this is
[05:40] <cake4567> you need to mess with xorg.conf ...that graphics control panel just wont do it...my 24" isn't work yet
[05:40] <BADKITTY> Crozar: it is set to 4 but it gives me a hex instead
[05:40] <Crozar> BADKITTY, who wants more desktops lol , btw you can through the same method just addmore. increase
[05:41] <cake4567> thanks kolin...I can always just run firefox in wine
[05:41] <riotkittie> kenkenshin: as a quick fix for win decorations, ALT + F2 and type metacity --replace [or compiz --replace or emerald --replace]. if youre using compiz-fusion check the decorations plugin, assuming you have !ccsm installed
[05:41] <Evanlec> nickrud, all i had to do was use the nvidia binary drivers from nvidia.com instead of the restricted drivers
[05:41] <Evanlec> nickrud, tho that wasnt exactly painless
[05:41] <brettmr> desertc: did you set a virtual size in xorg.conf?
[05:41] <Crozar> hmm BADKITTY then right click workspaces prefrences , and change that aswell , fidle around with the ubuntu workspace prefrences and compiz desktop tab where i appiointed you.
[05:41] <kolinab> cake4567: there really is a way to do it. you just need to properly 'trick' firefox, that's all. Make sure firefox is closed when you do the file xfer, that could screw things up perhaps?
[05:41] <desertc> brettmr: I'm not using xrandr now
[05:42] <nickrud> Evanlec: yeah, I'll have the ati ones, and that's actually pretty easy now, with the ubuntu packaging code in the package from ati
[05:42] <shinygiftson> thx nickrud
[05:42] <cake4567> I've been closing it
[05:42] <BADKITTY> Crozar: I have been I can't get them to align properly.. this is nuts
[05:42] <nickrud> shinygiftson: all good then?
[05:42] <cake4567> I'll just play around some more
[05:42] <tomd> cake4567: don't give up and do that! thats fugly
[05:42] <shinygiftson> ys :)
[05:42] <kolinab> cake: k, good luck!
[05:42] <Crozar> just fiddle more to be a good girl BADKITTY  :P
[05:42] <Evanlec> nickrud, ati has a ubuntu package? lol
[05:42] <shinygiftson> but xsp server making problem as tht script is not working
[05:42] <shinygiftson> i've to do something else to debugg it
[05:42] <nickrud> Evanlec: the option --buildpkg Ubuntu/7.10 :)
[05:42] <open_lad> how do i see if my laptop is 32 bit or 64bit.???
[05:43] <Crozar> ok work completed for today , guys il be here tommorow at 4:30 ... cya's.
[05:43] <cake4567> its 32
[05:43] <nickrud> Evanlec: creates a driver deb, and kernel module source deb. REALLY nice
[05:43] <multiverse> How do I recompile BIGMEM into Ubuntu 7.10 Desktop
[05:43] <Nutubuntu> Okay ... g'night all ... off to dist-upgrade to Gutsy (wish me luck)
[05:43] <Evanlec> nickrud, really...but u can only do that with ati?
[05:44] <nickrud> Evanlec: I don't know if nvidia has it or not
[05:44] <Evanlec> multiverse, u will need to recompile your kernel
[05:44] <Evanlec> nickrud, well if they did im guessing i woulda heard about it somewhere
[05:44] <nickrud> Evanlec: it's part of the ati-driver-installer*.run ati distributes
[05:44] <multiverse> Yeah, I know.  The question is how?
[05:44] <nickrud> !kernel
[05:44] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[05:45] <Evanlec> nickrud, nvidia's is a .run script too i believe, but never saw any debs
[05:45] <Evanlec> is bigmem available in the buntu kernel?
[05:45] <multiverse> yes, the server edition has it by default
[05:45] <Evanlec> nickrud, why not just use 64-bit?
[05:46] <Evanlec> :)
[05:46] <multiverse> Hey ubotu, I reviewed that documentation, but it references Debian stuff.
[05:46] <broken> ...
[05:46] <broken> lol
[05:46] <scguy318> !bot | multiverse
[05:46] <ubotu> multiverse: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:46] <nickrud> Evanlec: I'm lazy
[05:46] <Evanlec> multiverse, ubotu is just a bot...don talk to it
[05:47] <broken> he seriously just spoke to a bot
[05:47] <multiverse> I love you ubotu.
[05:47] <broken> i am petrified
[05:47] <drulux> Is there any way to make Ubuntu more organized by somehow dumping the content of the root into a /sys/ subfolder or something
[05:47] <nickrud> multiverse: ubuntu is closely tied to debian, uses the same tools
[05:47] <Evanlec> nickrud, o well believe me if i could download nvidia-drivers.deb from their site i would in a heartbeat
[05:47] <multiverse> Those tools were not present.
[05:47] <kolinab> Can I ask someone to indulge me and install http://sourceforge.net/projects/golly/ to see if it works for them? The program runs OK for me but crashes on the preferences screen, and I'm not sure I'm installing it right.
[05:47] <nickrud> multiverse: one word: kernel-package
[05:47] <multiverse> Despite following the instructions in that article.
[05:47] <duvnell> okay, I've read some about upstart, but I don't see any reference to configuration files/tasks/etc except for /etc/events.d .. now my events.d directory doesn't have just a whole lot in it.. where is the rest of the config?
[05:48] <kolinab> it's the golly-1.2-gtk version I'm trying to run
[05:48] <multiverse> multiverse@multiverse-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install kernel-package
[05:48] <multiverse> [sudo] password for multiverse:
[05:48] <multiverse> Reading package lists... Done
[05:48] <multiverse> Building dependency tree
[05:48] <multiverse> Reading state information... Done
[05:48] <multiverse> kernel-package is already the newest version.
[05:48] <multiverse> kernel-package set to manual installed.
[05:48] <multiverse> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:48] <Evanlec> multi dont paste in here
[05:48] <multiverse> sorry@!
[05:48] <duvnell> still mostly done by rc#.d scripts?
[05:48] <rubydiamond> do anybody know good svn client for ubuntu
[05:49] <Evanlec> !pastebin | multiverse
[05:49] <duvnell> rubydiamond: I like the cmd line
[05:49] <ubotu> multiverse: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:49] <usser> !subversion
[05:49] <multiverse> Thank you ubotu.
[05:49] <usser> !subversion
[05:49] <nickrud> duvnell: that's it. It doesn't need any more, most of the configs are from the individual packages
[05:49] <usser> !svn
[05:49] <Evanlec> multiverse, u will probly want kernel-source as well
[05:49] <ubotu> subversion is an open source application used for revision control. It is sometimes abbreviated to svn in reference to the name of its command line interface. Look here for a Subversion How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[05:49] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[05:49] <Evanlec> multiverse, and build-essential
[05:49] <duvnell> nickrud: so it looks like everything is still pretty much started from rc#.d scripts?
[05:50] <nickrud> rubydiamond: I like svn-workbench , it has nearly everything
[05:50] <multiverse> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44683/
[05:50] <nickrud> duvnell: exactly, it's just a drop in replacement for inittab (with fancier parallelism as I understand it)
[05:51] <Shadows> what is a good chan for xserver issues
[05:51] <scguy318> Shadows: here is good
[05:51] <duvnell> nickrud: hmm.. yeah.. but from the way it sounded, it would be very different.. perhaps it's all still in transition
[05:51] <Shadows> oh heya scguy
[05:51] <scguy318> Shadows: hello
[05:51] <duvnell> I know they wanted to maintain backwards compatability
[05:51] <duvnell> anyway
[05:51] <rubydiamond> duvnell: how can I know from the root folder of app from command line that...some file is conflicted
[05:51] <duvnell> svn status -q
[05:51] <Evanlec> nickrud, why do they need all this repo systems, cvs, svn, git ... what else am i missing? lol
[05:51] <nickrud> duvnell: I'd think so, there's a lot of work done on those rc scripts :)
[05:51] <Shadows> I did what you sudgested with the text install so I could reconfigure xserver but I still get the blankscreen of doom
[05:52] <scguy318> Shadows: mm, reconfigure but specify vesa this time
[05:52] <nickrud> Evanlec: so you can roll back mistakes, track multiple releases, work nicely together, I usually require the first often
[05:52] <Sephiroth> Ubuntu recently rebooted and had to start up in safe graphics mode, and I reinstalled the restricted drivers and got Ubuntu to not boot in safe graphics mode. However, while in safe graphics mode, I was able to choose what graphics driver I wanted to use. How would I bring that window back up again?
[05:52] <multiverse> See, this command fails:  debian/rules updateconfigs
[05:52] <multiverse> Following instructions here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[05:52] <Shadows> I's did
[05:52] <Evanlec> nickrud, yes but why so many different ones, why dont everyone just use cvs?
[05:52] <scguy318> Sephiroth: SYstem -> Admin -> Screens and Graphics I think
[05:53] <duvnell> rubydiamond: or perhaps svn status | grep ^C
[05:53] <k90xk> How do I change my external hard drive from being in read only mode?
[05:53] <scguy318> Evanlec: because they each have their own advantages
[05:53] <Evanlec> nickrud, o i c
[05:53] <nickrud> Evanlec: hm, different needs, different tools. CVS doesn't track multiple releases easily, for one
[05:53] <bazhang> k90xk: ntfs drive?
[05:54] <Evanlec> nickrud, i never tried any of em, only would use em to get the latest version, tho im temped to install git:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide
[05:54] <k90xk> yes
[05:54] <multiverse> I use locate to find updateconfigs, but it isn't found.
[05:54] <Shadows> scguy318: it woked fine on 5.4 but 7.10 not so much
[05:54] <rubydiamond> duvnell: what is meant by ^C
[05:54] <Sephiroth> scguy318: Thanks.
[05:54] <primary> Hello. Whenever I play many different songs in Ubuntu, eventually Ubuntu "hiccups" or something and loses its record of file associations. I'll double click on an icon and it'll turn into a piece of paper ,and properties will describe it as a "program" no matter what the file actually is. I have to reboot in order to fix this, which is annoying. What is going on, and how can I fix it?
[05:54] <nickrud> Evanlec: overkill for me, I just need something that tracks my boo boos on my web stuff.
[05:54] <bazhang> !ntfs-3g
[05:54] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:54] <Evanlec> nickrud, im not a programmer so i spose that doesnt effect me much
[05:54] <scguy318> Shadows: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, pick vesa this time
[05:54] <scguy318> Shadows: that will get you back definitely
[05:54] <Shadows> i did
[05:54] <Shadows> still nope
[05:55] <scguy318> Shadows: mm
[05:55] <nickrud> Evanlec: I last did real programming in the 80's and believe you me, I wish I had had them then
[05:55] <tatterdemalian> primary: Playing them at the same time?
[05:55] <Evanlec> nickrud, ur web stuff? is it a community project?
[05:55] <bazhang> k90xk: see the link (6 lines up)
[05:55] <scguy318> Shadows: pastebin your xorg.conf, any way you desire
[05:55] <k90xk> thank you bazhang!
[05:55] <primary> tatterdemalian: No. For instance, I'll play one song, it'll finish, and then I'll double click on another song to begin playing that one. If I do this too many times, my file associations disappear temporarily
[05:55] <bazhang> k90xk: no worries :}
[05:55] <kolinab> nobody know how to install software from a tarball? I just don't know if I'm missing a step or what, all the files get extracted but are read only. I think that has something to do with my problem
[05:55] <duvnell> rubydiamond: a grep takes a regular expression (aka regex) and you're looking for lines in "svn status"'s output start start with the letter C.. in regex you can place a ^ symbol infront of the pattern to make it match only if that pattern is at the beginning of a line.. therefor | grep ^C makes it find lines that start with a 'C'
[05:56] <Shadows> sorry but paste my what?
[05:56] <scguy318> !make | kolinab
[05:56] <ubotu> kolinab: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:56] <scguy318> Shadows: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:56] <duvnell> rubydiamond: svn status shows conflicted files with a 'C' infront of them
[05:56] <kolinab> scguy, k reading about !make, thx.
[05:57] <duvnell> rubydiamond: run svn status -q (q for quiet.. meaning don't show files that aren't versioned) without the grep first.. then you'll see what the grep does
[05:57] <duvnell> rubydiamond: you can always do svn --help or svn <command> --help
[05:57] <tatterdemalian> primary: That's weird... I'm under the impression that Ubuntu disassociates files if it attempts to run a file with the associated application but fails. So, basically after starting enough files from the manager, something is making your player crash, and Ubuntu reacts by removing the association.
[05:57] <tatterdemalian> Or does it disassociate all file types?
[05:58] <primary> tatterdemalian: Except it seems to remove every file association. I can't open text files, music, pictures, documents...anything
[05:58] <Haemoth> I'm trying to run deluge but it is not working. It usually works after a reboot but how do I get around there? It shows this under the processes but it's not going away.... wotanist  6214  0.1  1.7 103116 36560 ?        Sl   06:26   0:03 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/deluge
[05:58] <tatterdemalian> Wow, never heard of that before. Ubuntu does some pretty weird stuff to my file associations too, nothing that extreme yet. Not sure how to fix it.
[05:58] <bruenig> Haemoth, kill it
[05:59] <multiverse> hi all
[05:59] <bruenig> Haemoth, just kill python since that is what is really running
[05:59] <Haemoth> bruenig: How? I tried kill 6214 but it's still there
[05:59] <multiverse> Anyone got time to help trouble shoot how to compile BIGMEM into 7.10 Desktop
[05:59] <bruenig> deluge is getting really buggy
[05:59] <primary> tatterdemalian: It isn't a big thing, since I can still open programs and have them open the files...Still, just something I was curious about
[06:00] <kolinab> it seems there is no ./configure file - does that mean I don't really need to compile?
[06:00] <Haemoth> bruenig: How do I kill python?
[06:01] <bruenig> Haemoth, killall python
[06:01] <broken> why would you want to?
[06:01] <Haemoth> bruenig: Says no process killed.
[06:01] <rubydiamond> duvnell: could u give me list of svn commands... like u gave above.. which are essential and mostly used
[06:01] <bruenig> hmm
[06:01] <kirika> does anyone know if i can copy my desktop settings from my root account to my user account because my borders are gone and now i cant get them back
[06:01] <shishio> use a knife ti kill that phyton, joke
[06:01] <tatterdemalian> primary: It sounds like a glitch in Ubuntu's routines, but it could also be your player taking over all its associations and dropping them, out of the blue. I can't really tell you much more than that, sorry.
[06:01] <Evanlec> duvnell, is there any reason to use svn if you're not a developer?
[06:02] <duvnell> rubydiamond: again, svn --help will list them.. but I mostly use svn update, commit, diff, status
[06:02] <broken> kirika: why did you store your settings in root to begin with?
[06:02] <tatterdemalian> Obviously Ubuntu can recover from it, though, if rebooting fixes it
[06:02] <ianmcorvidae> kolinab: Look in the folder and see if there is a README or INSTALL file and read those. They'll typically tell you the installation procedure.
[06:02] <duvnell> Evanlec: you can use it to version anything.. and by version I mean that you want to create a file, and modify it from time to time but always be able to get back to any revision in the past
[06:03] <Evanlec> duvnell, oh ok, so u could just use it for personal use?
[06:03] <duvnell> Evanlec: you obviously have to 'commit' the current state of the file so that you can get back to any commited version
[06:03] <duvnell> Evanlec: sure
[06:03] <nickrud> Evanlec: a good use is to track changes to /etc , I used rcs for that in debian
[06:03] <Evanlec> duvnell, if u were developing like even a webpage for example?
[06:04] <duvnell> Evanlec: definately
[06:04] <Evanlec> duvnell, track changes to files u edited in your /etc folder?
[06:04] <kolinab> ianmcorvidae: there is a readme file, all it says that seems relevant is that I can install the program wherever I like. So I just extracted the tarball to the desktop. Then it says I can run it by double clicking the icon, which runs the program OK until I try to open the preferences screen. Then it just closes, and I thought maybe I didn't install it right. Like it didn't have read permission to alter the prefs file or something.
[06:04] <duvnell> Evanlec: plus you can use it for collaberative development.. i.e. multiple people editing the same web site and being able to undo other people's chagnes or whatever
[06:04] <Evanlec> duvnell, sorta like a rollback safety feature?
[06:04] <duvnell> Evanlec: yep
[06:05] <kirika> broken, well what happened was i usually use my normal user account but somehow my borders on all my apps are gone and i cant minimize anything so i can only run 1 app at a time then i have to file then quit it to do something else
[06:05] <kirika> so i wonder if i can take the other settings and maybe transfer them and then restart
[06:05] <Evanlec> duvnell, yea i knew it was used for big projects with multiple ppl working on it, didnt realize it had any use for an individual
[06:06] <Evanlec> duvnell, i mean, u could just incrementally save your file with a date in the filename instead i spose ya?
[06:06] <duvnell> you could skim a couple of the key chapters of the book (http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.4/svn-book.html) and know pretty quick what it could be used for (chaps 1 and 2 perhaps)
[06:06] <duvnell> just ignore the stuff specific to software development
[06:07] <sfears> i'm trying to configure ndiswrapper and i'm having trouble with the header files.  They are not there and i use the command "ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build" but there is no such file or directory and i'm not sure how to create it because i don't know what the uname directory is
[06:07] <duvnell> Evanlec: that's one way.. but having it checked into a repository would be a bit cleaner as you wouldn't have tons of files lying around
[06:07] <Evanlec> duvnell, alright cool, thx, one more question, would it be better to use svn, cvs, or git? for personal projects?
[06:07] <duvnell> Evanlec: plus it's more efficient with space
[06:07] <Haemoth> Someone please tell me how to kill python.
[06:07] <duvnell> Haemoth: with a hoe?
[06:07] <Evanlec> LOL
[06:07] <usser> lol
[06:08] <Haemoth> ...
[06:08] <duvnell> Haemoth: killall python
[06:08] <Haemoth> I did that already.
[06:08] <Haemoth> It's not going away
[06:08] <Evanlec> i actually laughed quite loudly at that
[06:08] <duvnell> Haemoth: killall -9 pythong ?
[06:08] <Haemoth> Tried that too
[06:08] <duvnell> yeah thonh..
[06:08] <duvnell> thong*
[06:08] <kirika> Haemoth, dude just open sys monitor and look for the process number and open terminal and type "kill ***" where ** is number
[06:08] <Haemoth> I did that too
[06:08] <Haemoth> Sigh
[06:08] <Evanlec> try HTOP! :)
[06:08] <Haemoth> htop?
[06:09] <Evanlec> yea, apt-get it
[06:09] <duvnell> well I'm off to bed
[06:09] <Haemoth> okay.
[06:09] <duvnell> (or just top)
[06:09] <bullgard4> [Gnome about box] English help wanted. What is meant by Synaptic's description: "Informative little about thing that lets us brag to our friends as our name
[06:09] <Evanlec> duvnell
[06:09] <duvnell> yes?
[06:09] <kirika> Haemoth, try it again
[06:09] <Evanlec> duvnell, just one more question
[06:09] <duvnell> k
[06:09] <Sephiroth> Okay, for some reason, Ubuntu loses the title bars when I enable Desktop Effects now, when they worked before. O_o
[06:09] <Evanlec> duvnell, for personal projects: svn, cvs, git ? or another?
[06:09] <duvnell> Evanlec: svn for sure
[06:09] <Evanlec> duvnell, why does many projects use cvs?
[06:09] <bullgard4> [Gnome about box] English help wanted. What is meant by Synaptic's description: "Informative little about thing that lets us brag to our friends as our name  scrolls by, and lets users click to load the GNOME home pages"?
[06:09] <Haemoth> kirika, been trying it from the past half n hour.
[06:10] <kirika> Haemoth, try a resart yet
[06:10] <kirika> restart
[06:10] <Evanlec> duvnell, ok nvm, u dont hafta explain that to me, u answered my question
[06:10] <Haemoth> kirika, well that is my question. How do I do it without restarting? This happens to be everyday.
[06:10] <kirika> does anyone know if i can copy my desktop settings from my root account to my user account because
[06:10] <nickrud> bullgard4: lol, system->about gnome
[06:10] <Haemoth> My friend has the same problem.
[06:11] <duvnell> Evanlec: git is for distributed development and cvs is dinosaur treats files one by one.. svn tracks all commits as a single change .. so if you commit 10 files it's not 10 checkins in the logs and such.. so if you want to go back to a previous change, it's sure to revert all files affected since that change to that point. etc etc..
[06:11] <newguy> hey there, why does sound stop working in 7.10 after like 5 mins after booting up?
[06:11] <eko_hermiyanto> hi
[06:11] <duvnell> git would just be overkill
[06:11] <eko_hermiyanto> I have wine on my ubuntu
[06:11] <duvnell> IMO
[06:11] <newguy> ive tried looking at all the resources and troubleshooting for sound
[06:11] <desertc> newguy: Did you check alsa settings?
[06:11] <kirika> Haemoth, the only way i know how to do it is with the terminal using the process number
[06:11] <newguy> but nothing works
[06:11] <eko_hermiyanto> I want to install a software which is windows software
[06:11] <newguy> alsa settings?
[06:11] <eko_hermiyanto> but it require ie5.0.1
[06:11] <Evanlec> duvnell, really, interesting
[06:11] <eko_hermiyanto> I have installed the IE
[06:11] <desertc> newguy: oooh -- probably something taking over your sound
[06:11] <newguy> like "test" in the sound preferences
[06:11] <Evanlec> duvnell, so why i see mostly projects using cvs?
[06:11] <eko_hermiyanto> but why it still could not be installed
[06:11] <duvnell> Evanlec: definately at least skip chap 1 and 2 of http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.4/svn-book.html
[06:11] <desertc> newguy: did you restart alsa?
[06:11] <newguy> because when i try to "test" my sound, it doesnt work
[06:12] <usser> eko_hermiyanto: what software is that?
[06:12] <newguy> it gives some error message
[06:12] <bullgard4> nickrud: It is nice that you laugh out loud. Your statement is not helpful.
[06:12] <eko_hermiyanto> it still display message internet explorer 5.0.1 is not in your system
[06:12] <newguy> sorry how do i restart alsa?
[06:12]  * syc_ slaps eko_hermiyanto
[06:12] <eko_hermiyanto> usser, I want to install TRITON
[06:12] <usser> eko_hermiyanto: installing ie wouldnt help wine uses its own html engine gecko
[06:12] <duvnell> Evanlec: because svn has become stable in maybe the last 3 years.. any projects before that wouldn't have used it.. but a lot are switching.. it's a pain to switch tho
[06:12] <desertc> newguy: more troubleshooting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:12] <usser> eko_hermiyanto: which should work for most apps
[06:12] <syc_> eko_hermiyanto the servant
[06:12] <Evanlec> duvnell, oh i see
[06:12] <usser> eko_hermiyanto: except really retarde ones
[06:12] <newguy> desertc how do i restart alsa btw?
[06:12] <usser> eko_hermiyanto: did u check winehq appdb?
[06:13] <duvnell> ok zzzzzzz
[06:13] <Evanlec> duvnell, cool man, never realized these things were so nifty ;p
[06:13] <eko_hermiyanto> usser, I think Triton is not in the appdb
[06:13] <eko_hermiyanto> because it's not a widely used software
[06:13] <usser> eko_hermiyanto: yea its not
[06:13] <nickrud> bullgard4: I showed you where to see what that description was about. And I laughed a the  "lets us brag to our friends as our name  scrolls by". I enjoy self depreciating humor
[06:13] <Evanlec> duvnell, nickrud, u using svn for making webpages n stuff?
[06:13] <eko_hermiyanto> syc_, hei bro.. you are here too :D
[06:14] <nickrud> Evanlec: yes, there's some php in there and I've altered a few drupal modules, it's good for seeing what I've done
[06:14] <kirika> newguy, try "alsa restart" in terminal
[06:14] <eko_hermiyanto> even actually I have various version of Internet Explorer on my Ubuntu system
[06:14] <eko_hermiyanto> my beloved Gutsy
[06:14] <cake4567> hey can someone help me setup dual monitors on my 12" laptop/24" external...I need to use twinview and edit xorg.config but getting lost
[06:15] <bullgard4> nickrud: The Gnome main menu System does not contain a menu item 'about gnome'.
[06:15] <newguy> kirika bash: alsa: command not found
[06:15] <Evanlec> nickrud, yea well duvnell just explained in brief to me about svn, i'd like to start using it for my html/css and perhaps some of my very young bash scripts
[06:15] <nickrud> bullgard4: on mine, it's right above about gnome
[06:15] <kirika> newguy, so do you have alsa installed
[06:15] <newguy> kirika yes
[06:15] <nickrud> bullgard4: er, above about ubuntu that is
[06:15] <newguy> kirika im looking at the volume control right now
[06:15] <newguy> kirika alsamixer works in the terminal
[06:16] <newguy> kirika but nothing is muted
[06:16] <kirika> newguy, ill check hold on
[06:16] <weltschmerz> i can't share my music with another user on this machine, even though everything in my music directory is chmod to 750, and the group is users, and the user in question is in users.
[06:16] <desertc> newguy Please look at the link I provided you.
[06:16] <cake4567> anyone familiar with twinview?
[06:17] <nickrud> Evanlec: you really should, and svn-workbench is a good front end for examining/committing stuff. You have to create the repo on the command line, and the redbook is very good
[06:17] <Evanlec> cake4567, mm, a little
[06:17] <Evanlec> nickrud, the redbook? :p
[06:17] <cake4567> evan..i edited it a lilttle...lemme see If I got it working...if not I'll b back in 10
[06:17] <nickrud> Evanlec: yeah, you were getting good advice from someone who obviously used it more seriously than I :)
[06:18] <bullgard4> nickrud: Using your remark, I have found the menu item 'about gnome'.
[06:18] <eko_hermiyanto> is it any way to install .Net with wine to make my Triton program works in Ubuntu?
[06:18] <Evanlec> nickrud, yeah...but what is the redbook?
[06:18] <kirika> newguy, try /usr/bin/alsamixer restart
[06:19] <kirika> or cd to usr/bin
[06:19] <kirika> newguy, and try alsamixer restart
[06:20] <cake4567> didnt work...I adjusted the 2nd monitor in screens and graphics and it really messed up the resolution of the other
[06:20] <newguy> kirika that gets alsa restarted, but still no sound
[06:20] <nickrud> Evanlec: unless I've mixed it up, it's slang for the svn manual
[06:20] <cake4567> that screens and graphics config just doesnt wrok
[06:20] <Evanlec> nickrud, he told me to skip chapters 1 and 2? lol, i think the introduction is where i'll start
[06:20] <kirika> newguy, well i dont really know what your initial problem was i was just try to help sorry im not sure
[06:21] <newguy> kk np
[06:21] <nickrud> Evanlec: I think that was a typo, skim is more likely
[06:21] <newguy> well this is driving me nuts, all the troubleshooting does nothing
[06:21] <Evanlec> nickrud, yea i think ur right
[06:21] <kirika> newguy, what was the problem
[06:21] <newguy> desertc that page you gave me did not help much
[06:21] <newguy> well when i boot my pc up right, after like 5 minutes i cant listen to music or any sound at all
[06:21] <brettmr> Hmmm, So i managed to get this "extended desktop" working with xrandr, although apparently they have to be one on top and one below it, because of the older intel chip limitations.
[06:22] <desertc> newguy: you hadn't even tried restarting alsa, so I don't know how much troubleshooting you did... :P
[06:22] <brettmr> anyways it behaves really strangely, i am guessing it is gnome that is being weird
[06:22] <newguy> so when i go preferences->sound and try "test" it gives me: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Resource busy or not available.
[06:22] <newguy> i have no idea what the hell that message means
[06:22] <newguy> scarely it reminds me of the windows days too
[06:22] <Evanlec> i feel sorry for anyone using an intel video chip
[06:22] <newguy> desertc i did restart alsa
[06:22] <cake4567> nvidia blows
[06:23] <kirika> newguy, that used to happen alot to me i would just resart my system and it would fix it
[06:23] <cake4567> damn you dual support
[06:23] <desertc> resource is busy
[06:23] <newguy> desertc still not helping the sound problem
[06:23] <Evanlec> cake4567, i suggest u try the nvidia-settings app
[06:23] <newguy> kirika yeah but this means i have to restart my computer every 5 mins just to hear sound
[06:23] <newguy> kirika duno bout you, but that soon gets a bit tirring
[06:24] <brettmr> One issue i read  about is that randr makes the VGA the primary monitor and puts the panels there, this does happen, but when i switch workspaces, it switches workspaces for both monitors, and if i put an icon on one screen, it will stay there even if the display is turned off through xrandr
[06:24] <cake4567> nvidia-settings: invalid option: "app"
[06:24] <kirika> newguy, yea i get it, but i wonder what else is using it
[06:24] <Evanlec> newguy, this might be a shot in the dark, but that sounds like an IRQ problem, perhaps try disabling APCI on boot?
[06:24] <newguy> ok, in BIOS disable onboard sound chip you mean?
[06:24] <kirika> oh yea thats a good idea
[06:24] <Evanlec> cake4567, type '
[06:25] <Evanlec> cake4567, 'sudo nvidia-settings'
[06:25] <newguy> ok, ill try that, brb
[06:25] <desertc> He's not even checked his devices or anything.  People just come in here complaining and demanding help.
[06:26] <Evanlec> desertc, it does happen a lot i agree
[06:26] <kirika> so does anyone know if i can copy my desktop settings to use on my normal user account because i cant seem to fix my issue
[06:26] <cake4567> in the nvidia app but there is nothing I can change?!!?
[06:26] <Evanlec> desertc, but i'll admit ive jumped into here asking a question once or twice when i probly coulda found it on google....
[06:26] <desertc> I missed the end of my show because I was getting brow-beat by him over him not getting to hear him MP3
[06:26] <desertc> *his
[06:27] <Evanlec> desertc, lol
[06:27] <desertc> sigh - and that's when I know it's time to depart from #ubuntu for the night.  Good luck all with resolving your issues.
[06:27] <nickrud> damn, desertc that's dedication!!
[06:27] <Evanlec> desertc, good night, keep up the good work :)
[06:28] <nickrud> kirika: what's the issue?
[06:28] <Evanlec> i feel very satisfied with the ubuntu community, i installed it 3 months ago and got lots of help, now here i am helping others, if only everyone did that...we'd be all set
[06:28] <cake4567> thanks evan..... I dont see any changed I can make in sudo nvidia-settings though?
[06:29] <kirika> nickrud, oh sorry its just my borders on my apps in my normal user settings are gone and i cant seem to get them back so i wonder if i can maybe copy settings from another user say root and use those settings to fix it
[06:29] <Evanlec> in fact, i think the primary reason i dont switch to Arch or another more "technical" distro is because of the ubuntu community
[06:29] <cake4567> unless I have a EDID file
[06:29] <rbil> cake4567: what are u trying to do?
[06:29] <ggoogi> how do i start keyring daemon?
[06:29] <cake4567> dual monitors
[06:29] <nickrud> kirika: in compiz?
[06:29] <rbil> and what's the prob?
[06:29] <cake4567> nvidia laptop grpahics card
[06:29] <newguy> well i turned off the onboard sound card in the BIOS i have no sound now lol
[06:29] <jimjam> Does anyone know why, on a reboot, my desktop is completely black? When I go into Appearances to change my desktop image, it changes back to my normal image, but my icons are gone. Anyone know why?
[06:30] <Evanlec> cake4567, 2nd menu item: X server display configuration
[06:30] <newguy> as i dont have a soundcard in a PCI slot, the only soundcard i do have is the onboard one
[06:30] <newguy> well going to reboot now
[06:31] <cake4567> Failed to set MetaMode (1) 'CRT-0: nvidia-auto-select @1920x1200 +0+0, DFP-0: 800x600@60 @800x600 +1920+0' (Mode 2720x1200, id: 52) on X screen 0.
[06:31] <jimjam> I can't access Nautilus, either?
[06:31] <nickrud> jimjam: I've been seeing problems with other things, but it may be related. I log into alt-f1, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, killall gconfd-2, and then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:31] <gotenks> question about apt-get
[06:31] <cake4567> errr Failed to set MetaMode (1) 'CRT-0: nvidia-auto-select @1920x1200 +0+0, DFP-0: nvidia-auto-select @1280x800 +1920+0' (Mode 3200x1200, id: 53) on X screen 0.
[06:31] <jimjam> sure thing
[06:31] <nickrud> kirika: try alt-f2 metacity --replace
[06:31] <sfears> is there a way other than ndiswrapper to configure wireless
[06:31] <rbil> cake4567: u using twinview?
[06:31] <gotenks> how do i know what version the application is?
[06:32] <Evanlec> cake4567, can ur monitor do 3200x1200? cuz mine can't ;p
[06:32] <jimjam> nickrud: Do I need to log out first?
[06:32] <cake4567> hahah no
[06:32] <nickrud> jimjam: you could, but I never have anything running that matters at that point :)
[06:32] <jimjam> alright
[06:32] <cake4567> thats not what it says on the display though.. I want 1920 x 1200 by 1280 x 800
[06:33] <rbil> what does your Screen ... Option show for metamodes in your xorg.conf?
[06:33] <ads001> heh
[06:33] <brettmr> cake4567: are you trying to get extended desktop working with Nvidia card?
[06:33] <Evanlec> cake4567, yes but that error u just posted says (Mode 3200x1200, id: 53)
[06:33] <Evanlec> brettmr, yes he is
[06:33] <cake4567> the layout gives the correct resolutions
[06:34] <ads001> can someone do me a favour and /whois adante and get the ip for me -- i'm trying to find my own ip but this retarded client won't let me
[06:34] <kirika> nickrud, im using xfce
[06:34] <gotenks> can anyone help me?
[06:34] <scguy318> ads001: adante is n=adante@124-171-164-125.dyn.iinet.net.au * Kagehisa Anotsu
[06:34] <brettmr> just a thought i am preseltly reading this thread, and it seems to apply somewhat
[06:34] <brettmr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582739&highlight=Gnome+Xrandr&page=3
[06:34] <ads001> thanks scguy318
[06:34] <levander> Is anyone else trying to use a Keyword Search in Firefox for the Ubuntu Forums?
[06:34] <rbil> ads001: go here to get your ip addy ... http://w-3productions.com/myaddress.mv
[06:34] <Evanlec> cake4567, you might want to try using a default xorg.conf and just try getting things working usng only the nvidia-settings panel
[06:35] <nickrud> kirika: ah, nm then. Yes, you could pull in your config from root if it's working, do chown -R kirika:kirika ~/ afterwards to set the files to yourself
[06:35] <ads001> rbil: yeah unfortunately my computer is at home and i am not :)
[06:35] <cake4567> how do I default the xrog again
[06:35] <cake4567> ?
[06:35] <cake4567> I already have  a backup of it
[06:35] <Evanlec> cake4567, replace with backup i'd say
[06:35] <jd_> can anyone help i want to view networked computers in xubuntu dapper drake its not like ubuntu no network folder
[06:35] <Evanlec> cake4567, oh, um
[06:35] <Evanlec> cake4567, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:35] <levander> I keep having to delete and recreate my Keyword Search in Firefox for the Ubuntu Forums.  Does that happen to everyone who's doing that?
[06:36] <jimjam> hmm... a "killall gconfd-2" didn't kill anything
[06:36] <nickrud> cake4567: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg
[06:36] <kirika> nickrud, hmm wierd i didnt think of that thanks i will try
[06:36] <Evanlec> cake4567, yea nickrud's is better :)
[06:36] <brettmr> I thought it was -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:36] <rbil> cake4567: I can show you my xorg.conf and you can develop yours from it. I have dual monitors with 2 LCDs and nvidia card
[06:36] <bazhang> levander: sounds like an issue for Mozilla channel
[06:36] <nickrud> jimjam: I have problems with no nautilus and no panel, that works for me
[06:36] <ezzieyguywuf> anytime i try to run xine or totem-xine, i get the splash screen then it shuts down immidietley. any help?
[06:36] <jd_> does anyone know what i sould do or where i can find help with this
[06:36] <Evanlec> nickrud, i really gotta start keeping a list of these useful commands, always forget the -pcritical part
[06:36] <nickrud> brettmr: -pcritical asks no questions at all
[06:36] <jimjam> thanks anyways nickrud
[06:36] <rbil> !postbin
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about postbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <brettmr> Ah i see
[06:37] <rbil> !postebin
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about postebin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <rbil> anyone give me a postbin addy?
[06:37] <Evanlec> nickrud, it asks no questions at all? what does it do then? lol
[06:37] <bazhang> rbil pastebin
[06:37] <rbil> ah so
[06:37] <rbil> !pastebin
[06:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:37] <cake4567> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[06:37] <cake4567>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071116013710
[06:37] <nickrud> Evanlec: there are so many, and they change, you might want to put it in revision control :P
[06:37] <Evanlec> nickrud, LOL
[06:37] <jd_> i need some help please
[06:38] <nickrud> cake4567: normal, it made a fresh backup for you
[06:38] <kirika> jd_, whats the prob
[06:38] <ezzieyguywuf> can someone help me with totem crashing every time i start it up?
[06:38] <jimjam> How can I see which users are logged in? I've logged in twice and I want to kill my other profile.
[06:38] <Evanlec> nickrud, pcritical asks no questions? so it just uses some base defaults like vesa and pc101 kbd?
[06:38] <cake4567> alright nick
[06:38] <rbil> cake4567: here's relevant part of my xorg.conf ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44684/
[06:38] <kirika> ezzieyguywuf, use vlc totem crashes alot for me as well
[06:38] <cake4567> now do I go back to the nvidia thing/
[06:38] <nickrud> Evanlec: it tries to probe for the right stuff, it's essentially what a fresh install does
[06:39] <nickrud> jimjam: who in a terminal
[06:39] <Evanlec> nickrud, ohh ok, coolness
[06:39] <ezzieyguywuf> vlc has a lot of pops and whatnot with the sound. any help with that?
[06:39] <jimjam> nickrud: any way to force log out?
[06:39] <brettmr> Does anyone know why/about any issues with extended desktop using XrandR and gnome, like why the when you switch worskspaces it switches on both monitors
[06:39] <kirika> ezzieyguywuf, hmm never had that problem are you on a slow computer
[06:40] <Evanlec> ezzieyguywuf, probly a codec problem, try playing different a different media type and see if it occurs
[06:40] <jimjam> mike     tty1         2007-11-15 22:34
[06:40] <jimjam> mike     tty9         2007-11-15 22:35 (:0)
[06:40] <jimjam> mike     pts/0        2007-11-15 22:39 (:0.0)
[06:40] <ezzieyguywuf> kirka: ok. my comp is not slow :-D
[06:40] <jd_> kirika i cant view my networked computers on xubuntu dapper drake.
[06:40] <Evanlec> jimjam, be careful pls, no pasting over 3 lines is the general rule...
[06:40] <kirika> jd_, are they connected
[06:40] <nickrud> jimjam: I'm sure there is, but I run single user machines, never had to look for it.
[06:41] <jd_> yes they are
[06:41] <jimjam> Anyone else know how I can force a user to log out?
[06:41] <jd_> there is no network folder like regular ubuntu
[06:41] <ezzieyguywuf> kirika: ok, with an .ogg file there are no pops, but when i play a dvd it pops left and right
[06:41] <jd_> you have to set it up with fusesmb
[06:41] <kirika> ezzieyguywuf, may be a codec problem
[06:41] <Evanlec> jimjam, /kick ;p
[06:41] <jd_> i did in xubuntu gusty but my wireless card does not work in gusty
[06:42] <jimjam> Evanlec: So many stories with that command :P
[06:42] <Evanlec> ezzieyguywuf, yea that confirms that its a codec issue
[06:42] <multiverse> How do I compile BIGMEM into 7.10 kernel?
[06:42] <ezzieyguywuf> kirika: any help? :-D
[06:42] <jd_> so i went to dapper and i cant get this to work
[06:42] <Evanlec> jimjam, heh
[06:42] <ezzieyguywuf> evanlec: any help?
[06:42] <Evanlec> ezzieyguywuf, u grab the codecs from medibuntu repository?
[06:42] <ezzieyguywuf> yea
[06:42] <Evanlec> !dvd | ezzieyguywuf
[06:42] <ubotu> ezzieyguywuf: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:42] <ezzieyguywuf> how can i set the default soundcard in VLC?
[06:42] <Evanlec> ezzieyguywuf, i know others have had issues with dvd playback as welll, but im not sure of solutions, i would search ubuntuforums.org
[06:43] <randomcommando> connect irc.hackthissite.org
[06:43] <kirika> ezzieyguywuf, it should auto detect sound card
[06:43] <kirika> randomcommando, why
[06:43] <ezzieyguywuf> kirika: i have an external 5.1 i want to use
[06:43] <ezzieyguywuf> evanclec: i been in the forums for days now :-) haha
[06:44] <kirika> ezzieyguywuf, oh, well im not sure how to do that
[06:44] <jd_> well im lost
[06:44] <kirika> ezzieyguywuf, i have an old pc with the most basic stuff
[06:44] <jd_> nobody awake in xubuntu
[06:44] <ezzieyguywuf> ok
[06:44] <kirika> jd_, sorry man did you google at least
[06:44] <jd_> is there like irc for dapper
[06:45] <jd_> yes i did
[06:45] <jimjam> Hmm... killing X didn't do it. I don't want to have to restart this thing.
[06:45] <jd_> i cant find anything but what i have found for the gusty
[06:45] <jimjam> Is is normal to have three responses from "who" for a simple graphical log in?
[06:46] <jd_> the gusty one worked well set it up in five minutes
[06:46] <jd_> but my wireless card locks up in gusty with ndiswrapper
[06:46] <nareshov> jimjam, yeah, if you have terminals open
[06:46] <makaveli> how do i install a .tar.gz file?
[06:46] <jd_> never did in fiesty though
[06:46] <bruenig> makaveli, what is it
[06:46] <nareshov> jd_, is there no native driver now?
[06:46] <cake4567> still giving me the stupid Failed to set MetaMode (1) 'CRT-0: nvidia-auto-select @1920x800 +0+0, DFP-0: nvidia-auto-select @1280x800 +1920+0' (Mode 3200x800, id: 52) on X screen 0. ....nick didnt your code reset my xorg config?
[06:46] <jd_> makaveli i have a good doc for this
[06:46] <jd_> no
[06:46] <rbil> jimjam: I think this will kill a user .... skill -STOP -u <username> .... start with sudo
[06:47] <makaveli> bruenig, hydra-5.4-src.tar.gz
[06:47] <bruenig> makaveli, a .tar.gz file is a gzipped tape archive, it is like asking how do I install a .zip or something in windows. It doesn't have any inherent thing to do with it, it is just an archive.
[06:47] <jimjam> rbil: I'll give it a try. Can't do any real damage.
[06:47] <jd_> i though he meant compile
[06:47] <bruenig> makaveli, that looks like a programs source code, so you want to extract it, and read the documentation on how to install it
[06:47] <makaveli> ok gotcha
[06:47] <rbil> or this one jimjam ... skill -KILL -u <username>
[06:48] <jd_> makaveli
[06:48] <bruenig> !compile
[06:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:48] <jd_> http://www.aboutdebian.com/compile.htm
[06:49] <makaveli> jd_, yes
[06:49] <jd_> http://www.aboutdebian.com/compile.htm
[06:49] <makaveli> jd_ i gotcha thanks
[06:49] <jd_> this is a very user friendly guide
[06:49] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hi all
[06:49] <rbil> jimjam: do ... man skill  ... to learn more
[06:49] <jd_> np
[06:52] <jd_> i think ill just go back to fiesty i like how well xubuntu runs
[06:53] <jd_> does anyone know what might have changed for ndiswrapper to make my computer lock up
[06:53] <jd_> form fiesty to gusty
[06:54] <eko_hermiyanto> wow... i can install windows program on ubuntu which need .net
[06:54] <eko_hermiyanto> :D
[06:54] <eko_hermiyanto> amazing
[06:54] <rbil> jd_: possibly gutsy handles your wireless nic without need for ndiswrapper?
[06:54] <eko_hermiyanto> wine-doors is really amazing
[06:54] <jimjam> rbil: It totally worked
[06:54] <rbil> jimjam: good to know
[06:54] <jd_> then how whould i check this
[06:54] <jimjam> rbil: I was concerned because I was also logged in. A blank screen for a few seconds also races the heart a bit
[06:55] <jimjam> rbil: But everything's good
[06:55] <jimjam> rbil: Thanks
[06:56] <dwf_starband> if I just installed ubuntu on a computer, is there a way to use the updates and packages from my main ubuntu desktop, without downloading them off the internet?
[06:57] <cake4567> hey whats that command again to get into the nvidia X control panel?
[06:57] <usser> nvidia-settings
[06:57] <dwf_starband> nvidia-settings
[06:57] <rbil> cake4567: sudo nvidia-settings ?
[06:57] <cake4567> yesh!
[06:58] <eko_hermiyanto> is it possible to setting an odbc in ubuntu?
[06:58] <corevette> help edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Mobile_and_Embedded_Edition
[06:58] <eko_hermiyanto> odbc into mysql server?
[06:58] <bazhang> dwf_starband: stuff you have already downloaded not in the installer cd?
[06:58] <dwf_starband> yes
[06:59] <bazhang> dwf_starband: aptoncd
[07:00] <msingh> mad props to you ubuntu guys .. for the first time suspend actually works right on my laptop
[07:00] <cake4567> thanks
[07:00] <bruenig> msingh, no one in here had anything to do with nor did anyone with ubuntu have anything to do
[07:01] <cake4567> now my stupid awn bar is off centered :9
[07:01] <bruenig> msingh, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[07:01] <bmt2> hello to all
[07:01] <msingh> bruenig, im sure if i used fedora or some shit it wouldnt suspend
[07:01] <bruenig> msingh, kernel...
[07:01] <bazhang> msingh: language..
[07:01] <msingh> bruenig, no, this is the work of someone who went the extra mile to make a great user experience
[07:02] <bruenig> maybe this is why ubuntu gets so much praise, the users don't know enough to understand why their stuff actually works
[07:02] <bruenig> they think, this is happening when I install ubuntu, therefore ubuntu did it
[07:02] <msingh> i know that the silly linux kernel has supported suspend forever, but it never worked for me until now
[07:02] <bruenig> I guess that makes sense
[07:02] <bmt2> i just tried to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10, and got an error that stated : Faild to fetch http://www.debian-multimedia.org/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[07:02] <bmt2> can anyone help ?
[07:03] <msingh> i just have a question.. is there a way to get ubuntu to run /etc/init.d/networking restart when the machine wakes up?
[07:03] <shishio> bmt2: whts ur internet speed?
[07:03] <bruenig> wait you mean ubuntu didn't add that when they programmed it into the kernel as you think they have done?
[07:03] <bmt2> shishio: i am using cable internet
[07:04] <Evanlec> cake4567, i usually run sudo nvidia-settings because otherwise it wont save changes to your xorg.conf
[07:04] <whabo> THANK YOU UBUNTU 7.10 for making my LIFE a little bit easier .. and FOR ALL OF YOU GUYS WORKING TO PERFECTION IT.. THANK YOU
[07:04] <msingh> bruenig, i dont think you know what you're talking about
[07:04] <bruenig> !caps | whabo
[07:04] <ubotu> whabo: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:04] <bruenig> !ot | whabo
[07:04] <ubotu> whabo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:04] <bazhang> bmt2: someone else had a similar problem last night--may be a server issue
[07:04] <shishio> bmt2: is ur internet connection Ok? somethimes it fails to fetch when internet connection is slow
[07:04] <bruenig> msingh, I bet I do
[07:04] <ginita> hi
[07:05] <bmt2> shishio: my internet connection is working properly
[07:05] <cake4567> thanks...my monitors are working a lot better
[07:05] <bmt2> bazhang: think i should try later ?
[07:05] <ginita> anyone using macbook pro? i just install ubuntu on my macbook pro (intel with ati video card)
[07:05] <jdlizard> ok i have another ?
[07:05] <bruenig> !anyone | ginita
[07:05] <ubotu> ginita: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:05] <bazhang> bmt2: certainly :}
[07:05] <ginita> i wonder how can i make my wifi works in ubuntu? with macbook pro?
[07:05] <Evanlec> nickrud, this svn thing has got me almost motivated to start doing css again, but what i really want is a way to get an instant preview of any changes i make (for example changing width of x from 124px to 128px) gotta see the results to know what ur doing ya know
[07:05] <cake4567> why would you put linux on a mac laptop?!!!?!?1
[07:05] <bruenig> !madwifi | ginita
[07:05] <ubotu> ginita: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:05] <ginita> ii just did cake
[07:06] <Evanlec> cake4567, because linux is more fun
[07:06] <bruenig> ginita, look for madwifi
[07:06] <jdlizard> doe anyone know when u upgrade from feisty to gusty does the kernel change
[07:06] <nickrud> Evanlec: install firebug in firefox, you can alter the page live
[07:06] <bruenig> jdlizard, it does
[07:06] <Evanlec> jdlizard, yes, gutsy kernl is 2.6.22-14
[07:06] <bazhang> ginita: you may also want to check ubuntu-tutorials .com
[07:06] <greencookie> For some reason, my gnome xchat gui does not have any maximize or minimize buttons. It occupies whole screen and I dont have my panels. please help!
[07:06] <ginita> thanks
[07:07] <bruenig> bazhang, try not to spam
[07:07] <Evanlec> nickrud, yea someone suggested that to me before, it does what i asked but, i wanna be working on the actual file and be able to save it very frequently, last time i used firebug i opened another page and all my work was gone
[07:07] <Big-E> greencookie _ same thing happened to me on my gutsy update - restart and that will remedy it.
[07:07] <bazhang> bruenig: that isn't
[07:07] <jdlizard> ok evanlec my wireless card works in gusty on my desktop computer fine in gusty this was after a upgrade from feisty
[07:07] <bruenig> jdlizard, what card
[07:07] <jdlizard> but my laptop was a fresh install could u explain any of this if posible
[07:07] <Evanlec> jdlizard, cool
[07:08] <jdlizard> it is a webstell usb
[07:08] <nickrud> Evanlec: try running apache on your local machine, I do that for development. I have /home/www owned by me
[07:08] <jdlizard> uses prism2
[07:08] <jdlizard> i have used ndiswrapper for this since efty
[07:09] <bruenig> jdlizard, ok do that again then
[07:09] <Evanlec> nickrud, yea i had that setup before too, so i would save the css file, reload the page in f-fox...but...i know this sounds picky...i really got tired of pressing ctrl+f, click on ffox, ctrl+r
[07:09] <jdlizard> but thats what im doing right now as we chat
[07:09] <Mago> hi all
[07:09] <Evanlec> nickrud, wanted a way so that whenever i saved the page would refresh automatically
[07:09] <jdlizard> lol
[07:09] <cubedsi> hey riotkittie, that twinview didn't work i think its because of my SLI
[07:09] <jdlizard> this will be a long night
[07:09] <cubedsi> i have 2 devices each with 1 screen
[07:10] <bruenig> jdlizard, all I see in the kernel is prism54, so yeah
[07:10] <Evanlec> nickrud, but if u work like me, u would understand, i probably hit ctrl+s and ctrl+r about 100 times in half an hour
[07:10] <Mago> --->lol<----
[07:10] <bruenig> jdlizard, try resetting up the whole thing
[07:10] <rbil> jdlizard:  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb
[07:10] <jdlizard> im just curious about why this works this way, by the way im using this card right now to make sure it does not crash and it doesnt
[07:11] <ajv> hi all, I deleted my ubuntu partition and now grub is screwed. How do I fix it  ?
[07:11] <UDZGuru> hi there
[07:11] <UDZGuru> anyone here who can help me?
[07:11] <riaal> I'm running a local ftp server with vsftp'd, Anyone know where the root folder for an anonymous login is? :S
[07:11] <jdlizard> i ahve done everything from compileing ndiswrappers lattest version and nothing only in gusty would it crash
[07:11] <jdlizard> but right now im using gusty with the card and it works fine
[07:11] <nickrud> Evanlec: yeah, too bad firefox seems to have lost the -remote() command
[07:12] <ajv> on the remaining partition I have winxp install
[07:12] <jdlizard> so im installing feisty and then i will set up ndiswrapper then upgrade to xubuntu gusty
[07:12] <Evanlec> nickrud, it has? someone suggested that to me too, but it seemed it would always reload in a new tab...but now thats completely out?
[07:12] <Nutubuntu> Hi - was upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy; the download finished; the installation was in progress, and Firefox segfaulted and it looks like everything stopped. What should I do to restart this process?
[07:12] <jdlizard> i hope this works
[07:12] <jdlizard> i been up late for three nights tryin to get this to work
[07:12] <ajv> I need to fix the MBR so that it will run xp again. I am in the command line of ubuntu 7.04. what do I need to run to fix my mbr?
[07:13] <jdlizard> grub
[07:13] <rbil> ajv: if ubuntu partition is gone, grub is gone
[07:13] <cake4567> its easy with a windows install disk
[07:13] <cake4567> fdisk /mbr
[07:13] <Evanlec> jdlizard, if ur using gutsy and the card works fine, what is the problem?
[07:14] <ajv> cake4567: I try running the winxp cd and it tell me can't find the harddisk
[07:14] <jdlizard> well this is it this is my desktop that i upgraded to gusty, my laptop i did a fresh install and it would crash
[07:14] <Evanlec> !mbr | ajv
[07:14] <ubotu> ajv: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:14] <Nutubuntu> Hi - was upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy; the download finished; the installation was in progress, and Firefox segfaulted and it looks like everything stopped. What should I do to restart this process? I'm not sure Update Manager will run ... doesn't seem to :/
[07:14] <nickrud> Evanlec: I haven't tried in a while, I'm parroting what I've heard
[07:14] <Nyle> hmm
[07:15] <Nyle> i plug in my usb and it shows up in konqueror
[07:15] <Nyle> wow
[07:15] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade
[07:15] <Evanlec> jdlizard, okay but thats a desktop and a laptop...hardware is all different, can't say it was because u upgraded or clean-installed
[07:15] <Nyle> i don't have to go mount anything
[07:15] <jdlizard> now usb is usb
[07:15] <Nyle> this is what plug and play is all about... go kubuntu
[07:15] <jdlizard> no
[07:15] <Nyle> what?
[07:15] <Nutubuntu> scguy318,  thanks - will that try the download over again? is it possible to save that hour or two ?
[07:16] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: the download should be cached I think
[07:16] <jdlizard> not u sorry
[07:16] <Nyle> on
[07:16] <Nutubuntu> thanks again, scguy318 ... I'll keep my fingers crossed
[07:16] <Nyle> not me?
[07:16] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: so hopefully it shouldn't re-d/l again
[07:16] <Nyle> !ping
[07:16] <ubotu> pong
[07:16] <rockets> Grr, I can't get the pidgin music-tracker plugin to work.
[07:16] <jdlizard> im lost
[07:16] <jdlizard> lol
[07:17] <Evanlec> nickrud, can u see how something like that would be useful for web development tho?
[07:17] <Nutubuntu> Running sudo dpkg --configure -a ... ...
[07:17] <mrbister> What's the easiest what to change default O/S to load in grub?
[07:17] <nickrud> Evanlec: yup
[07:17] <Evanlec> nickrud, i dont know why there isnt any easy solution to this
[07:18] <cubedsi>  what is the super key?
[07:18] <Evanlec> nickrud, i really hate using wyswyg editors, but even those didnt do what i wanted exactly
[07:18] <Evanlec> cubedsi, its the key with the windows logo
[07:18] <scguy318> cubedsi: the Windows key
[07:19] <rbil> mrbister: change default <n> in menu.lst to reflect what u want to load by default ... note: start counting from 0
[07:19] <Evanlec> ya know, the one u always ABHORED in windows ;p
[07:19] <Flynsarmy> Do updates downloaded/installed with the update manager get stored in the apt folder and therefore be saved with aptOnCD?
[07:19]  * nickrud wonders what Evanlec would have thought of using sidekick and windriver as a development environment
[07:19] <scguy318> Flynsarmy: yes
[07:19] <cubedsi> what is the super key? i know i just asked but i accidently left the room
[07:19]  * Evanlec wonders what sidekick and windriver are
[07:19] <scguy318> cubedsi: the Windows key
[07:19] <hdevalence> kinda offtopic, but i'm looking for a bleeding-dge distro to run in a vm so I can test new stuff. What's a good one?
[07:19] <cubedsi> ty
[07:19] <nickrud> Evanlec: lol, dos 2.11 times
[07:20] <Evanlec> its that key that drove me to pry off when i used windows
[07:20] <nickrud> hdevalence: gentoo
[07:20] <scguy318> Evanlec: scrap it off and stamp Tux :P
[07:20] <fdd__> it should be replaced with Tux
[07:20] <Evanlec> nickrud, yea i figured u were being facetious
[07:21] <rbil> hdevalence: what's more bleeding edge then gutsy?
[07:21] <Evanlec> god need to think of something funny to say to that
[07:21] <bazhang> hdevalence: hardy
[07:21] <Evanlec> but i cant
[07:21] <raynix> hello everybody!
[07:21] <scguy318> hello
[07:21] <Nutubuntu> scguy318,  dpkg --configure gives me "errors were encountered while processing" then lists half a dozen pkgs: compiz, gnome-panel, gnome-control-center, volumeid, libdataserverui1.2-8, gnome-applets, gnome-power-manager, and initramfs-tools.
[07:21] <nickrud> Evanlec: yeah, sidekick was a text editor with only one paste buffer, and wind river was a c compiler. You tied it together with batch files. Sucky
[07:21] <beduin> hello
[07:22] <hdevalence> bazhang: afaik, there have not been any hardy alpha releases
[07:22] <jdlizard> well i guess i might have to stay here to let u guys know how this works out
[07:22] <Evanlec> nickrud, yuck, and on DOS? yes that sounds like a nightmare
[07:22] <nickrud> Evanlec: state of the art
[07:22] <Evanlec> nickrud, lol
[07:22] <hdevalence> bazhang: also, afaik, since it's an LTS, they're not using kde4
[07:22] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: can you pastebin all the errors?
[07:22] <pradalvr> can i setup a proxy with konversation?
[07:22] <bazhang> hdevalence: in a couple of weeks should be--for now go with what nickrud said
[07:22] <Nutubuntu> scguy318,  that was the only one I saw
[07:23] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: well, can you pastebin all the text?
[07:23] <Evanlec> actually
[07:23] <jdlizard> if this works i will be happy but still confuzed on how it did
[07:23] <nickrud> hdevalence: hardy will be broken badly and often probably until January
[07:23] <Evanlec> hdevalence, Arch Linux is designed for bleeding edge
[07:23] <Evanlec> hdevalence, and ive read great reviews for it
[07:23] <dahitokiri> would anyone happen to know of an image viewing program that displays all images in a folder recursively?
[07:24] <Evanlec> dahitokiri, oh like it would open them all inside the app?
[07:24] <dahitokiri> Evanlec, yeah
[07:24] <Nutubuntu> scguy318,  would it work to re-run dpgk --configure -a and redirect the output to a file? Or would that cause a problem? I'm not sure my terminal will scroll back through all of it. I'm guessing that some dependencies aren't satisfied but it's a guess
[07:24] <hdevalence> yeah, if i'm trying gentoo, i've actually got a long weekend to play with it, so it should be good. their install page reminds me of the bash.org "It only takes three commands to install gentoo...."
[07:24] <scguy318> dahitokiri: gthumb
[07:24] <dahitokiri> Evanlec, open them sequentially
[07:24] <Evanlec> all images in X folder and all images underneath
[07:24] <dahitokiri> Evanlec, yeah, one at a time
[07:24] <Evanlec> how would it know what order to put them in?
[07:24] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: that should be fine, the top is probably the important stuff
[07:25] <dahitokiri> Evanlec, it wouldn't matter
[07:25] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: make sure you redirect standard error
[07:25] <Nutubuntu> kthx scguy318 :)
[07:25] <Evanlec> i wonder if u could do some sort of symlinking magic to do that
[07:26] <dahitokiri> fuck. if it doesn't exist, i should make it. it's not that hard...
[07:26] <bazhang> !ohmy | dahitokiri
[07:26] <ubotu> dahitokiri: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:26] <dahitokiri> ah, sorry
[07:26] <dahitokiri> heh, nice trigger
[07:26] <dahitokiri> very 1950s
[07:27] <Tachy_> moin
[07:27] <hdevalence> ideally I'm looking for something to play with kde4 in; I tried openSUSE but i'm having problems with it; and I found a debian kde4 live cd, but it doesn't have the option to install. Also it's an opportunity to try new distros.
[07:27] <dahitokiri> is kde4 even out yet?
[07:27] <FallenHitokiri> dahitokiri: no
[07:27] <hdevalence> no
[07:27] <dahitokiri> doesn't it have a month for a release?
[07:27] <bazhang> beta4
[07:27] <rbil> night folks
[07:27] <FallenHitokiri> dahitokiri: they _plan_ to release in december
[07:28] <hdevalence> but they've been having problems
[07:28] <Evanlec> hdevalence, a distro like Gentoo or Arch gives u complete control, such that, u install a base operating system, and then install whatever desktop u want (gnome, kde4, etc)
[07:28] <dahitokiri> it won't be useful to general users till 4.1 anyway
[07:28] <dahitokiri> especially because of QT's redesign
[07:28] <e|64> how to change the console screen resolution ?
[07:28] <Nutubuntu> scguy318 - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44689/
[07:28] <hdevalence> I hear they have some nice APIs
[07:28] <FallenHitokiri> hdevalence: I know that there are packages for archlinux,...
[07:29] <Evanlec> ah, an arch user speaks
[07:29] <hdevalence> Anyways, I need to go to bed in 2 hours ago, so goodnight.
[07:29] <cerealkiller> guys
[07:29] <cerealkiller> need help
[07:30] <cerealkiller> how to install new icon themes
[07:30] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: that is all?
[07:30] <Nutubuntu> scguy318,  yes, I think so ... should there be more?
[07:30] <cerealkiller> how to install new icon themes
[07:30] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: i suppose you could try either explicitly installing the dependencies the errors mention or
[07:30] <Evanlec> cerealkiller, download em from gnome-look.org
[07:30] <corevette> http://digg.com/linux_unix/HERE_WE_GO_AGAIN_DIGG_CENSORING_ANTI_FOX_NEWS_WEBSITE
[07:30] <FallenHitokiri> cerealkiller: drag & drop in system -> settings -> look (or whatever it is caled in english)
[07:30] <corevette> http://politics.reddit.com/info/60osv/comments/
[07:30] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: try doing sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[07:31] <Nutubuntu> oktanouc, will do, thanks scguy318
[07:31] <raynix> yes, gnome-look.org
[07:31] <cerealkiller> and then where can i put the downloaded file
[07:31] <Evanlec> cerealkiller, then install them in the appearance window
[07:31] <Evanlec> cerealkiller, put it in ur home folder
[07:31] <Evanlec> cerealkiller, but dont extract them
[07:31] <qcode> hi
[07:32] <kirika> nickrud, hey sorry i asked this earlier but i seemed to have got all the settings from another account on my normal user but do you now which file or where its located to use the desktop settings of say root
[07:32] <Evanlec> cerealkiller, just leave the .gz file siting there, then go to system>preferences>appearance, click install, browse to your .gz file
[07:32] <tony_> trying to get steam to install. downloaded steam.msi. doesnt read.
[07:32] <Nutubuntu> scguy318,  aptitude wants to remove compiz, compiz-gnome, desktop-effects, libwnck18 and ubuntu-desktop???
[07:32] <nickrud> kirika: root's settings are in /root
[07:33] <Evanlec> tony_, ur using wine ya?
[07:33] <qcode> The package aircrack sounds interesting
[07:33] <Evanlec> tony_, try #winehq first pls
[07:33] <tony_> na
[07:33] <Extravert> Where can I find Linux example source files of C programming?
[07:33] <rockets> ah man
[07:33] <tony_> k
[07:34] <kirika> nickrud, sorry, i figured, but basically i need the windows settings as in how each window looks if that makes sense
[07:34] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: mm
[07:34] <Evanlec> Extravert, probably all over your system...?
[07:34] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: say no
[07:34] <Extravert> Evanlec: ??
[07:34] <Evanlec> Extravert, or download any tarball
[07:34] <qcode> Extravert: Try www.freshmeat.net
[07:34] <Extravert> qcode: thanks
[07:34] <Evanlec> Extravert, open it up and look for .c files
[07:34] <kirika> i have all the regular settings changed like in the menus but i still have no borders on my screen
[07:34] <nickrud> kirika: where xfce keeps that, I'm not sure. I'd look for files in .xfce*
[07:35] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra libcompizconfig0
[07:35] <kirika> nickrud, ok i will check that thanks
[07:35] <Nutubuntu> scguy318,  now it offers to install libcompizconfig-backend-gconf and libcompizconfig0
[07:35] <Evanlec> kirika, we get about 1300 people with that problem in here each day
[07:35] <cerealkiller> in kdesu konqueror in kde whats in ubuntu
[07:35] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: go ahead
[07:35] <Nutubuntu> scguy318,  that's before the apt-get install you just mentioned -
[07:35] <WGGMk> Question about SSH. My server is running SSH and im able to access it locally. but no where else.. its not running thru a router because it is its own DHCP and DNS. on a cable provider using DynDNS.com to update automatically. I was able to log in once accross WAN but not anymore
[07:36] <Evanlec> nickrud, would u mind if i asked what your workflow is for web dev?
[07:36] <kirika> nickrud, sorry most of my problem i can solve myself but this one stumped me
[07:36] <Flynsarmy> I'm using samba to connect to a windows drive through a network. I found a file on the drives top level called nautilus-debug-log.txt containing around 2900 lines of "0x8177800 2007/11/01 02:56:29.3725 (USER): debug log dumped due to signal 11". Is that normal?
[07:36] <bullgard4> Is there a tutorial how to access hard disk files using the Ubuntu life CD?
[07:36] <nickrud> kirika: I've not really used xfce, I started with gnome years ago and never really left
[07:36] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: proceed with aptitude if you wish
[07:36] <Nutubuntu> okay ... it's busily downloading things ... the linux-image ...
[07:36] <rubydiamond> how to install eclipse on ubuntu
[07:36] <e|64> How to change the console resolution
[07:36] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: cool cool I suppose :)
[07:37]  * Nutubuntu crosses fingers
[07:37] <nickrud> Evanlec: code, look, debug, look, debug, look, debug, revision. Rinse and repeat
[07:37] <kirika> nickrud, me too but i switched for a faster console because my computer is old and slow
[07:37] <Evanlec> bullgard4, probably no tutorial needed, just hit places > computer and open the disks up
[07:37] <Evanlec> nickrud, lol, okay, but maybe a little more specific, what apps?
[07:37] <Flynsarmy> rubydiamond: Add/Remove programs. It should be in the list
[07:38] <nickrud> Evanlec: I pretty much use eclipse, it handles mixed php css xhtml very gracefully, and has a decent task tracker and svn plugin
[07:38] <Evanlec> nickrud, it has an svn plug-in?? ooh now that sounds INTERESTING
[07:39] <Nutubuntu> scguy318,  when aptitude finishes this, should I also get the pkgs you mentioned earlier (compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra libcompizconfig0)?
[07:39] <WGGMk> Question about SSH. My server is running SSH and im able to access it locally. but no where else.. its not running thru a router because it is its own DHCP and DNS. on a cable provider using DynDNS.com to update automatically. I was able to log in once accross WAN but not anymore
[07:39] <nickrud> Evanlec, it has plugins for a kitchen sink :)
[07:39] <Evanlec> nickrud, im sold
[07:40] <Evanlec> nickrud, tho of course, my lovely vim may just come back to me
[07:40] <pablasso> stupid question, i made some users with useradd, but the prompt for them looks horrible, it looks like 'sh-3.1$', even though i copied the same .bashrc to their home that im using on the root account with a beauty prompt, what could it be?
[07:40] <Evanlec> nickrud, holy lord, apt-get eclipse: im guessing around 40 packages totalling 114mb asking to be installed
[07:40] <nickrud> Evanlec: get the one from eclipse, not the one from ubuntu. I used to use vim for simple stuff, emacs for bigger. Now eclipse for bigger & emacs for the rest
[07:40] <bullgard4> Evanlec: Thank you for commenting.
[07:40] <rubydiamond> how to install eclipse with aptana on ubuntu
[07:41] <rubydiamond> simplest and best way I want
[07:41] <nickrud> Evanlec: Yeah, eclipse is written in java, you will need a fairly strong machine
[07:41] <Evanlec> bullgard4, is that sarcasm? if so i probly deserve it ;p
[07:41] <Evanlec> nickrud, Java? (shudders)
[07:42] <Evanlec> nickrud, im on x86_64...
[07:42] <greencookie> This is wierd.
[07:42] <bullgard4> Evanlec: Yes. There is more about this than only the one procedure which you described.
[07:42] <greencookie> My gnome xchat doesnt have any minimize or maximize buttons
[07:42] <nickrud> Evanlec: I run a 1.6 gig dual 64, works just fine
[07:42] <Evanlec> bullgard4, okay well that was my understanding of your question
[07:42] <greencookie> I have compiz enabled and this happened.
[07:43] <greencookie> Has anyone gotten a similar problem?
[07:43] <Evanlec> nickrud, but java and 64 ? i cant imagine this working nicely
[07:43] <Nutubuntu> considerable updating and replacing going on ... scguy318, when this is done, is there a way to check that it's happily complete ?
[07:43] <nickrud> Evanlec: ah, probably a problem. Maybe you can learn about chroots :)
[07:43] <Shadix> !pastebin
[07:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:44] <scguy318> Nutubuntu: not sure, I would guess a simple sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:44] <Nutubuntu> Makes sense ... thanks again, scguy318
[07:44] <Evanlec> nickrud, i'd much rather not, how did u manage it
[07:44] <greencookie> Hi can someone tell me how to get my minimize and maximize and close buttons back in gnome xchat?
[07:45] <greencookie> its eating the entire desktop.. kinda like eclipsed the whole things.
[07:45] <nickrud> Evanlec: I run the 32 bit version, I don't do heavy number crunching or video processing, the apps I use aren't optimized for 64bit
[07:45] <kevin> is the problem with "no minimize buttons" only occuring with the chat window?
[07:45] <kevin> i had that happen to me, but it was every window
[07:46] <Evanlec> nickrud, u just said u run a 1.6gig dual 64
[07:46] <nickrud> greencookie: maybe the window is just bigger than the screen, try alt-click the window and dragging it down to the left
[07:46] <nickrud> Evanlec: chip, yes, os, no
[07:46] <Evanlec> nickrud, oh, boooo
[07:46] <computer_000> hi i have 2 laptops both with ubuntu, one of the laptops dont have wireless access. how do i share a wired connect between both laptops?
[07:47] <turtlethere> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44692/
[07:47] <greencookie> nickrud: nopes there is no you know the thing at top of all windows. the horzontal bar which contain the max min and close buttons? that is not there.
[07:47] <computer_000> hi i have 2 laptops both with ubuntu, one of the laptops dont have wireless access. how do i share internet with a wired connection between both laptops?
[07:47] <nickrud> greencookie: try alt-f2 emerald --replace
[07:47] <kevin> hey greencookie are you using compiz?
[07:47] <Evanlec> nickrud, how many times have u dealt with the no window borders problem in here? lol
[07:47] <greencookie> kevin yes
[07:47] <nareshov> !repeat | computer_000
[07:47] <ubotu> computer_000: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:47] <kevin> that happened to me after i upgraded to gutsy
[07:48] <nickrud> Evanlec: several times myself
[07:48] <kevin> i assume it was because i had altered my xorg.conf by hand and during the upgrade it wasn't updated automatically
[07:48] <bazhang> computer_000: on a home network?
[07:48] <Evanlec> nickrud, i usually see about 20 or 30 ppl with that problem on a typical day in here
[07:48] <computer_000> yeah, i have both laptops with me
[07:48] <nickrud> kevin: no, it's probably because your window manager didn't get started, that's emerald
[07:48] <ianloic_> hey, I think the most recent gutsy kernel broke my sound
[07:49] <kevin> make sure you're using 24 bit color
[07:49] <ianloic_> is there an apt repo I can point at with old version?
[07:49] <bazhang> computer_000: and you have a router with wired and wireless capability?
[07:49] <computer_000> i try to share my wireless laptop with another laptop but wired
[07:49] <computer_000> no router
[07:49] <ianloic_> I remember debian had some special repo with everything that was ever built but I can't find that
[07:49] <ianloic_> and launchpad confuses me
[07:49] <Evanlec> ianloic_, you dont wanna do that
[07:49] <bazhang> computer_000: adsl/cable?
[07:49] <nickrud> Evanlec: I switch back & forth with alt-f2 compiz --replace emerald --replace  & metacity --replace , never have got it working automatically myself
[07:49] <computer_000> cable
[07:49] <greencookie> I dunno what ure talking about nickrud and kevin whats emerald? i just got compiz on my machine
[07:49] <Evanlec> ianloic_, many ppl have had some issues with gutsy and sound, it is fixable tho, search ubuntuforums.org
[07:49] <SlimG2> What command unloads a module temporarily uintil next boot, what command entirely removes a module from the system, and what command blacklists modules on a system?
[07:49] <nareshov> !hda-intel | ianloic_
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hda-intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <ianloic_> Evanlec: whynot? It used to work and now it doesn't - I'd like to be able to narrow it down
[07:50] <nickrud> greencookie: emerald is the app that draws the window borders (and title bar)
[07:50] <greencookie> and now this gigantous xchat screen is hogging my desktop, panels, everything:)
[07:50] <newguy> hey there how do i get iptables to log events under System-->Administrator-->System logs ?
[07:50] <computer_000> this pc is wireless and i can go to the net, but the other the wireless dont work
[07:50] <greencookie> nickrud: Ah ok. I sense emerald is being lazy and not doing its job on poor gnome xchat. how do I fix him?
[07:50] <Evanlec> ianloic_, going back to an older kernel would be more of a headache i think
[07:50] <WGGMk> Question about SSH. My server is running SSH and im able to access it locally. but no where else.. its not running thru a router because it is its own DHCP and DNS. on a cable provider using DynDNS.com to update automatically. I was able to log in once accross WAN but not anymore
[07:50] <ianloic_> Evanlec: yes, but I don't feel like manually installing things - that sucks for maintainance
[07:50] <bazhang> computer_000: adsl/cable?
[07:50] <nickrud> greencookie: hit alt-f2, you should get a dialog box. type emerald --replace in it
[07:50] <computer_000> cable
[07:50] <ianloic_> Evanlec: it shouldn't be - there was an older gutsy one
[07:51] <Evanlec> ianloic_, manually installing a kernel probably sucks for maintainence i imagine
[07:51] <greencookie> emerald --replace
[07:51] <bazhang> greencookie: try the command emerald --replace in the alt +f2 window
[07:51] <ianloic_> Evanlec: is there nowhere to to get older kernels?
[07:51] <Flynsarmy> I'm using samba to connect to a windows drive through a network. I found a file on the drives top level called nautilus-debug-log.txt containing around 2900 lines of "0x8177800 2007/11/01 02:56:29.3725 (USER): debug log dumped due to signal 11". Is that normal?
[07:51] <Evanlec> ianloic_, its probably not even the kernel
[07:51] <greencookie> bazhang: nickrud there is nothing popping up when I hit alt+f2
[07:51] <nareshov> greencookie, your wm is down?
[07:51] <Evanlec> ianloic_, trust me, many ppl had this problem with gutsy, search the forums, the solution is not to downgrade kernel
[07:51] <nickrud> greencookie: hm, you have bigger problems then. No panel at all
[07:52] <nareshov> fire up a terminal from the menu
[07:52] <kevin> greencookie: if you disable the visual effects, the titlebar should come back
[07:52] <bazhang> computer_000: any reason you can't connect wired and wirelessly?
[07:52] <pipelineaudio> can someone help me with this quote? "sometimes utility shows error (you dont have a permissons). The easiest way to solve it, is to boot from Linux livecd (ubuntu or gentoo), and type in terminal 'sudo cfdisk'. Then you should create Darwin UFS partition (A8). Now you can boot to OS X installer again and skip work with partition manager"
[07:52] <pipelineaudio> I did that but it still said no permissions
[07:52] <ianloic_> Evanlec: I just want to restore my machine to its previous, working state
[07:52] <ianloic_> anyhoo
[07:52] <ianloic_> I'll look elsewhere
[07:52] <Evanlec> ianloic_, then clean install feisty
[07:53] <computer_000> i want my other laptop to connect to the net through this laptop
[07:53] <bazhang> pipelineaudio: sounds like an Apple issue
[07:53] <Evanlec> if ur gonna be that stubborn about it
[07:53] <pipelineaudio> well with the ubuntu cfdisk, I got it to say UFC partition I think
[07:53] <bazhang> computer_000: what wireless card
[07:53] <nareshov> bazhang, that's the osx-x86 issue :P
[07:53] <pipelineaudio> but it doesnt let me format still
[07:53] <Evanlec> install dapper and never upgrade anything again lol
[07:53] <sahaj> hey bazhang this is greencookie.
[07:53] <pipelineaudio> is there a way to format to hfs in linux somehow?
[07:54] <sahaj> bazhang. my xserver is not responding. I have to use irssi:(
[07:54] <computer_000> broadcom or something
[07:54] <nickrud> breezy was my last troublefree ubuntu
[07:54] <Evanlec> pipelineaudio, hfs is mac filesystem right?
[07:54] <pipelineaudio> yeah
[07:54] <nickrud> my only trouble free os, ever
[07:54] <nareshov> pipelineaudio, you need to create a hfs type partition, fdisk can do that
[07:54] <sahaj> nickrud: this is greencookie using irssi. cuz my xserver crashed apparently
[07:54] <Evanlec> pipelineaudio, i would suggest the gparted live cd , google for it
[07:54] <nareshov> just relabel a newly created partition
[07:54] <computer_000> my other laptop dont have wireless, just wired
[07:54] <bazhang> computer_000: could you be more precise--can't give precise help without it :}
[07:54] <pipelineaudio> I have gparted it doesnt make hfs
[07:54] <sahaj> when i hit crtl alt f7 i get blank screen
[07:54] <computer_000> i want my other laptop to connect to the net through this laptop
[07:54] <levander> Has anyone seen a list of graphics cards that have Linux hardware acceleration support?  Are there alternatives to ATI and nVidia?
[07:55] <computer_000> get it?
[07:55] <Evanlec> nickrud, eh, it doesnt feel like linux to me if there isnt just a few problems
[07:55] <psyche> how i can hack ubuntu locally?
[07:55] <nareshov> !hcl | levander
[07:55] <bazhang> pipelineaudio: I'm guessing no hfs through linux
[07:55] <ubotu> levander: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:55] <nickrud> sahaj: hm, what did you do, just before it crashed (if anything, that is)
[07:55] <psyche> my friend lost his passwords and im trying to fix it
[07:55] <pipelineaudio> bazhang: do you understand how to use cfdisk? I think I did it wrong
[07:55] <psyche> cant reinstall it because he has his files in there
[07:55] <sahaj> nickrud: you told me alt+f2 when it didnt work i hit ctrl alt f1 to get into terminal to type emerald --reset
[07:55] <Evanlec> levander, there are no good alternatives to ati or nvidia
[07:55] <bazhang> pipelineaudio: this is for dual booting on a mac?
[07:55] <psyche> so i need some good advice how i can bypass login
[07:55] <nareshov> pipelineaudio, use fdisk, press t and select partition to relabel
[07:56] <nickrud> sahaj: ah, alt-f7 to get back to X
[07:56] <pipelineaudio> quad booting
[07:56] <sahaj> and when i tried to go back to ctrl alt f7 it shows blank screen
[07:56] <sahaj> brb
[07:56] <pipelineaudio> nareshov: fdsik from windows?
[07:56] <nickrud> sahaj: try alt-f8 and alt-f9
[07:56] <nareshov> linux livecd
[07:56] <Evanlec> levander, i'd say in order of linux support it goes Nvidia > ATI > Intel > anything obscure
[07:56] <SlimG2> What command unloads a module temporarily uintil next boot, what command entirely removes a module from the system, and what command blacklists modules on a system?
[07:56] <pipelineaudio> instead of cfdisk?
[07:56] <nareshov> Intel > ATI
[07:56] <greencookie> wow
[07:56] <greencookie> alt f9 worked
[07:56] <greencookie> brb
[07:56] <bazhang> computer_000: yes I get it--sorry no idea
[07:56] <Evanlec> nareshov, i beg to differ
[07:56] <nareshov> hmm
[07:57] <bazhang> pipelineaudio: using boot camp?
[07:57] <Evanlec> esp now with the new drivers coming out for ati
[07:57] <pipelineaudio> no
[07:57] <nareshov> ah
[07:57] <levander> Evanlec: What's wrong with Intel, haven't they opened up the source for their drivers?
[07:57] <pipelineaudio> using ubuntu grub eventually
[07:57] <nickrud> SlimG2: rmmod removes it, and adding it to a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ (using blacklist there as a template) will blacklist it. Don't remove it from the system
[07:57] <pipelineaudio> I dont have it on except live right now though
[07:57] <pipelineaudio> gotta finish the osx install
[07:58] <Evanlec> levander, mm, not that i know of, the other problem is that they make onboard video cards, which ive always avoided like the plague
[07:58] <bazhang> nareshov: you called it
[07:58] <pipelineaudio> gparted shows the partition as fat32, cfdisk and mac show it as unix
[07:58] <nareshov> :D
[07:58] <rockets> Anybody reccomend a good icon editor?
[07:58] <pipelineaudio> sudo cfdisk
[07:58] <nickrud> rockets: inkscape
[07:58] <Evanlec> pipelineaudio, i suggest gparted live cd because it has support for a lot more filesystems, including hfs, than regular gparted
[07:58] <rockets> nickrud, oh yeah, guess I could use Xara xtreme too.
[07:58] <pipelineaudio> I followed the instructions in that quote, but it didnt say what to do, like write it or what
[07:59] <pipelineaudio> I have the gparted live cd
[07:59] <nickrud> rockets: svg icons are the way to go
[07:59] <pipelineaudio> gparted live is showing the partition as fat32
[07:59] <rockets> nickrud, xara does svg.
[07:59] <nickrud> rockets: wasn't disagreeing, more agreeing
[07:59] <rockets> ah
[07:59] <Evanlec> rockets, yes i agree with nickrud, i'd never used inkscape before and i made a snazzy icon in about half hour
[07:59] <rockets> haha
[07:59] <rockets> cool
[07:59] <D-Elite> drunk
[07:59] <D-Elite> sleepy time nows
[07:59] <nareshov> pipelineaudio, the installer you're using needs to see a hfs type partition which it selects and formats+installs onto
[07:59] <D-Elite> pce
[08:00] <pipelineaudio> right
[08:00] <arooni-mobile> hey folks!  is there a way to make thunderbird cache my online network calendars?
[08:00] <nareshov> so use fdisk to relabel a newly created partition
[08:00] <pipelineaudio> so according to that quote, you can use cfdisk in ubuntu to set up that partition which osx will then format
[08:00] <pipelineaudio> but Im not sure how to use cfdisk correctly
[08:00] <Evanlec> reLABEL ? i think that is not what u mean
[08:00] <nareshov> he needs to relabel it, the osx installed will format+install
[08:00] <Evanlec> disk labels are used by Solaris I think
[08:01] <nickrud> pipelineaudio: cfdisk is pretty simple, your options are at the bottom.
[08:01] <greencookie> nickrud: why isnt ctrl alt f7 not working while alt f9 is??:(
[08:01] <nareshov> relabel as in, call it a hfs TYPE partition
[08:01] <pipelineaudio> so, gparted klive shows the partition as fat 32, cfdisk is showing it as Darwin UFS
[08:01] <Evanlec> perhaps u mean format it
[08:01] <rockets> ah i cant use xara xtreme, minimum size is too big
[08:01] <greencookie> also do i  type emerald --remove?
[08:01] <Evanlec> format as hfs ya
[08:01] <gdubzguru> is there an installation guide for Beryl that works with the new Gutsy Gibbon release?
[08:01] <zapakitul> hey guys
[08:01] <zapakitul> any ideea how to install wow dvd with wine?
[08:01] <nareshov> gdubzguru, compiz-fusion
[08:01] <zapakitul> its on dvd and i cannot find the install.exe
[08:02] <zapakitul> i just bought the game
[08:02] <nickrud> greencookie: because your X is running on vc9, not vc7 like it should be. Happened to me a couple of times on gutsy, I went to vc1 and restarted gdm (sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop , sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start)
[08:02] <pipelineaudio> should I delete it from gparted then run cfdisk? maybe thats why its still fat32
[08:02] <rockets> nickrud, where is the damn pencil icon
[08:02] <Zaiden> Has anyone Successfully installed Ubuntu onto a Flash Drive?
[08:02] <gdubzguru> i'll check it out. thanks
[08:03] <nareshov> pipelineaudio, listen to me carefully
[08:03] <greencookie> ok nickrud if i do "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop/start i can get it back in vc7 im guessing
[08:03] <nickrud> rockets: locate pencil
[08:03] <nareshov> you know the partition number you created?
[08:03] <rockets> huh
[08:03] <pipelineaudio> yeah
[08:03] <rockets> what do you mean locate pencil
[08:03] <rockets> how do i "locate" it
[08:03] <nareshov> good, now is your hard disk /dev/sda or /dev/hda ?
[08:04] <nickrud> greencookie: ah, yes, that's what I meant :) And it cleared up other problems at the same time.
[08:04] <nickrud> rockets: in a terminal, type locate pencil
[08:04] <rockets> nickrud, i meant in Inkscape.
[08:04] <pipelineaudio>  its /dev/sda3
[08:04] <rockets> nickrud, how do i use a regular pencil style brush
[08:04] <nickrud> rockets: ah, lol
[08:04] <nareshov> pipelineaudio, do sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[08:04] <nareshov> you'll get the fdisk prompt
[08:04] <nareshov> type "t"
[08:05] <nareshov> hit enter, type 3, hit enter
[08:05] <sahaj> nickrud: awesome. but you know what nick? I'm beginning to like irssi:) hahaha as crazy as that sounds.
[08:05] <detectiveinspekt> Hi, I installed the nvidia drivers but I always need to install the to startx after a restart. What is the solution?
[08:05] <nareshov> now type a8 hit enter, then type w and hit enter
[08:05] <nickrud> sahaj: a lot of people run it in a terminal in X
[08:05] <nareshov> and then get back to your installation
[08:05] <rockets> nickrud, I realize that its SVG but I'd liek to do "pixel by pixel" drawring
[08:05] <nickrud> rockets: it's on the right vertial menu bar
[08:05] <rockets> yeah the freehand drawing tool sucks though
[08:05] <rockets> it makes my lines squiggly for no reason
[08:06] <nickrud> rockets: ah, that's why I use inkscape, I hate pixel by pixel. Vector drawing doesn't include it
[08:06] <greencookie> nickrud: I run it in vc1. quick question what does vc stand for? virtual console.
[08:06] <rockets> nickrud, so how DO you draw
[08:06] <pipelineaudio> yeah thats what I did last time nareshov
[08:06] <rockets> on that small of a level nickrud
[08:06] <greencookie> nickrud: how well do you know irssi?:)
[08:06] <nareshov> and what happened?
[08:06] <nickrud> greencookie: virtual console
[08:06] <nickrud> greencookie: I use xchat :)
[08:06] <pipelineaudio> gparted still shows fat32 while fdisk shows darwin ufs
[08:06] <nareshov> what did the installed say?
[08:07] <nareshov> osx installer
[08:07] <nickrud> rockets: for the stuff I did, I created patterns and overlayed them
[08:07] <pipelineaudio> and osx still says I cant format it and doesnt recognize it as an installable partition
[08:07] <nareshov> is it a primary partition?
[08:07] <nareshov> of course
[08:07] <greencookie> nickrud: brb
[08:07] <nareshov> sda3
[08:07] <pipelineaudio> yeah
[08:07] <nareshov> why don't you use the disk utility in the osx installer itself, worked for me
[08:08] <pipelineaudio> errr
[08:08] <Evanlec> rockets, if u want to draw raster graphics, use gimp
[08:08] <pipelineaudio> because it says "you dont have the necessary permissions"
[08:08] <pipelineaudio> hold on lemme type the quote again
[08:08] <rockets> Evanlec, yeah its a favicon so it wont be resized which means raster is fine
[08:08] <pipelineaudio> can someone help me with this quote? "sometimes utility shows error (you dont have a permissons). The easiest way to solve it, is to boot from Linux livecd (ubuntu or gentoo), and type in terminal 'sudo cfdisk'. Then you should create Darwin UFS partition (A8). Now you can boot to OS X installer again and skip work with partition manager"
[08:08] <Evanlec> rockets, oh ok
[08:08] <nickrud> rockets: it didn't matter what size I did the drawing in, it's vectorized. When I exported to bitmap, then I chose the size
[08:09] <inversekinetix> i just tried xfce by accident, why isnt it the default for ubuntu?
[08:09] <rockets> im going to try baby gimp
[08:09] <Evanlec> rockets, tho personally i'd like a vector image just as a "master" incase i needed to change it
[08:09] <bazhang> pipelineaudio: macbook?
[08:09] <pipelineaudio> whats that?
[08:09] <nareshov> :D
[08:09] <nickrud> inversekinetix: because it sucks ;)
[08:09] <bazhang> uh never mind
[08:10] <marybuntu> anybody familiar with asterisk?  i *think* i downloaded it from synaptic, but it doesn't appear in any of my menus...
[08:10] <inversekinetix> nickrud: no it doesnt
[08:10] <pipelineaudio> restarting ubuntu live
[08:10] <nareshov> pipelineaudio, whatever that quote wants you to do with cfdisk is equivalent to what I told you to do in fdisk, I'm surprised it doesn't work >_>
[08:10] <pipelineaudio> lemme see what it says now
[08:10] <pipelineaudio> I think I better delete the fat32 partition in gparted
[08:10] <inversekinetix> nickrud: I can imagine it is so much easier for people switching from windows to adjust to
[08:10] <nickrud> inversekinetix: really, the reason ubuntu chose gnome (I think, anyway) is it requires less from the user to create a usable config
[08:10] <pipelineaudio> I dont know why gparted still says fat32
[08:11] <nareshov> inversekinetix, some think KDE does the job better
[08:11] <Gmac> Good morning
[08:11] <greencookie> my xchat is MESSED up:(
[08:11] <nareshov> pipelineaudio, can you do the fdisk procedure and check once more?
[08:11] <inversekinetix> nickrud: III agree with that, if xfce had a couple of default congifs it would be perfect for a newcomer
[08:11] <pipelineaudio> yup
[08:11] <Gmac> quick question, ive got flashplugin-nonfree installed through the package manager, but Firefox still won't display flash (7.10)
[08:11] <nareshov> and make sure you write the changes
[08:11] <inversekinetix> ive yet to try kde
[08:11] <pipelineaudio> shouldnt i delete it in gparted first?
[08:11] <nareshov> "w" not "q"
[08:11] <SlimG2> nickrud: Does rmmod and modprobe -r do the same thing?
[08:12] <nareshov> doesn't matter
[08:12] <pipelineaudio> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[08:12] <pipelineaudio> bummer
[08:12] <greencookie> nickrud: How do I shut down vc7? its still on:)
[08:12] <pipelineaudio> it does hfs but not hfs+
[08:12] <nickrud> greencookie: close xchat, and try rm -r ~/.xchat2
[08:12] <Gmac> do I have to do anything within FireFox to get Flash working?    (fresh 7.10 32bit install)
[08:12] <nickrud> SlimG2: yes
[08:12] <greencookie> nickrud: i've already deleted the .xchat2 folder in my home directory. no use.
[08:12] <rockets> Evanlec, but i dont get how to draw on such a small scale without doing it pixel by pixel.
[08:13] <nickrud> greencookie: did you install xchat-gnome or xchat?
[08:13] <Evanlec> Gmac, just go to flash.com or do 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:13] <greencookie> nickrud: gnome
[08:13] <greencookie> nickrud: xchat-gnome.
[08:13] <Gmac> Evanlec: its already installed
[08:13] <Evanlec> rockets, scale is...irrelevant, since vectors can be scaled infinitely
[08:13] <rockets> Evanlec, mm.
[08:13] <Evanlec> Gmac, then ur all set, go to youtube
[08:14] <nickrud> greencookie: close xchat, and try gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/xchat-gnome , and removing the .xchat2 dir again
[08:14] <Evanlec> rockets, only proportion is relevant, relevant to other objects in your drawing
[08:14] <Gmac> Evanlec: YouTube doesn't work :)
[08:14] <greencookie> nickrud: wow hold up..how do u copy paste in irssi?:)
[08:14] <pipelineaudio> ok booting up now
[08:14] <bazhang> Gmac: did you have firefox running when you installed flash?
[08:15] <Gmac> Evanlec: ive not done anything out of the book, just downloaded the flash plugin and its never appeared to work for some reason.
[08:15] <turtlethere> Gmac: you need additional drivers to play flv
[08:15] <pipelineaudio> gparted is still showing fat32
[08:15] <Gmac> Evanlec: Im sure I closed it when I did, but possibly?
[08:15] <Evanlec> Gmac, k wel try flash.com
[08:15] <nickrud> greencookie: if you're running it in a terminal in X , just high light the text, move to another terminal, and press the middle button
[08:15] <riaal> can winrar unpack .tar? :S
[08:15] <e|64> hi I've tried the vga=773 oprtion in menu.lst but I still get a blank screen till the x starts while booting
[08:15] <Avelon> riaal: Yep.
[08:15] <turtlethere> i.e. flash video
[08:15] <greencookie> nickrud: unfortunately im running it in vc1:(
[08:15] <nickrud> greencookie: if you're doing this in two vc's, install gpm and do the highlight and paste
[08:15] <pipelineaudio> nareshov
[08:16] <pipelineaudio> fdisk shows darwin ufs
[08:16] <pipelineaudio> gparted shows fat32
[08:16] <Gmac> Evanlec: Flash is certainly not loading
[08:16] <nareshov> 'kay
[08:16] <nareshov> trust fdisk and try the osx installer once
[08:16] <pipelineaudio> Im gonna delete the partition in gparted then try it again
[08:16] <turtlethere> I was not able to watch flv until Tomcat asked me to install drivers for QT.
[08:16] <Avelon> Question... I've heard good things about Ubuntu...is it Microsoft-newb friendly?
[08:16] <greencookie> nickrud: quick question how do i exit out of 'vi' editor on my vc2?:)
[08:16] <Gmac> Evanlec: Should I try a full uninstall/reinstall making sure FF is closed at the time
[08:16] <pipelineaudio> is there anything bad of deleting it with gparted?
[08:16] <bazhang> Avelon: yes very much so
[08:16] <nickrud> greencookie: <esc>:q
[08:16] <eko_hermiyanto> hi, is there any manual on how to setup odbc connection in microsoft sql in ubuntu?
[08:17] <Draco_> Hello everyone, can anyone recommend a good program for me to write an .ISO image to a DVD ?
[08:17] <Evanlec> nickrud, if u go to flash.com what does it say? does it say ur missing flash?
[08:17] <Evanlec> nickrud, oops not to u sorry
[08:17] <greencookie> nickrud: thnx..phew..vi sucks.. well for now:) i couldnt type anything lol:)
[08:17] <Evanlec> Gmac,  if u go to flash.com what does it say? does it say ur missing flash?
[08:17] <tony_> can i use dramweaver? or what is the linux equivalent?
[08:17] <greencookie> nickrud: I'm gonna restart my xserver hold on.
[08:17] <Gmac> Evanlec: No, nothing appears at all where I assume it should
[08:17] <eko_hermiyanto> greencookie, well, you use gnu emacs :D
[08:18] <bazhang> Draco_: gnomebaker, k3b are two
[08:18] <Evanlec> tony_, dreamweaver is windows app, i would suggest Kompozer or Screem
[08:18] <nickrud> greencookie: nano is a decent editor for the console, simple stuff
[08:18] <Gmac> Evanlec: white screen, (same as YouTube for where the flash player should appear
[08:18] <greencookie> eko_hermiyanto: what in the world is that:) hehe
[08:18] <Draco_> thanks bazhang
[08:18] <Avelon> bazhang: Thanks. I've been thinking of setting up my new rig (finally getting a modern machine - I'm on 700MHz >_<) with a dual boot. Would you say Ubuntu is my best bet for getting into the -ix scene?
[08:18] <bazhang> no problem
[08:18] <Evanlec> Gmac, okay, sounds like ur install got borked
[08:18] <nickrud> greencookie: and emacs is great, but overkill for this :)
[08:18] <tony_> where i do get kompozer?
[08:18] <bazhang> Avelon: without parallel :}
[08:18] <greencookie> nickrud: mind giving me command to restart gdm?
[08:18] <eko_hermiyanto> GNU Emacs is superb, I love it very much :D
[08:18] <Gmac> Evanlec: Ive just done an full unintall/reinstall -- about to try again with some luck
[08:18] <Evanlec> Gmac, i would do sudo apt-get remove -purge flashplugin-nonfree
[08:19] <Gmac> right will do
[08:19] <hamm_sand> Can anyone help me with a Beryl install on Ubuntu 7.1 AMD 64
[08:19] <Nutubuntu> Seems to be done, scguy318 -- I'm going to reboot, wish me luck, and thanks
[08:19] <nickrud> greencookie: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop && sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[08:19] <marybuntu> anybody familiar with asterisk?  i *think* i downloaded it from synaptic, but it doesn't appear in any of my menus...
[08:19] <Avelon> bazhang: Okay! Thanks. I'll do some more reading.
[08:19] <greencookie> nickrud: you know, I think I like vcs:) I might go x-less for a couple of days.
[08:19] <Evanlec> hamm_sand, Beryl is deprecated, compiz-fusion is its replacement
[08:19] <Gmac> Evanlec: Purge is unknown command
[08:19] <nickrud> greencookie: great learning experience. You might enjoy linux from scratch. I learned a lot from it
[08:19] <dgjones> !nvu | tony_
[08:19] <ubotu> tony_: kompozer is WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project. It is available in !Universe on !Gutsy, !Backports on !Feisty, and from  « deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu edgy universe » for Edgy.  (Dapper still pending)
[08:19] <Gmac> Evanlec: one sec, my fault
[08:20] <Evanlec> greencookie, vcs?
[08:20] <pipelineaudio> should it be bootable?
[08:20] <greencookie> Evanlec: Virtual consoles:) hehe. I'm on ctrl alt f1 irssi:)
[08:20] <greencookie> brb
[08:21] <Evanlec> !gpm
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <hamm_sand> LF Help installing Beryl on Ubuntu 7.1 nvidia 8500GT
[08:21] <Evanlec> greencookie, oh the tty's
[08:21] <Gmac> Evanlec: comes up with Command Line option 'p' [from -purge] is not known
[08:21] <Evanlec> !info gpm
[08:21] <ubotu> gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-25 (gutsy), package size 372 kB, installed size 708 kB
[08:22] <Evanlec> Gmac, yea my syntax is not correct, 1 sec
[08:22] <gdubzguru> For the guy that wanted to install World of Warcraft... here's the instructions: http://russellthedigitalninja.com/wordpress/?p=9
[08:22] <Extravert> can someone recommend me a good C programming tutorial?
[08:22] <Gmac> Google
[08:22] <Extravert> ehh full of em
[08:22] <MilitantPotato> I keep getting Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server when I try to use kdesudo, running sudo xhost +local:jason makes it so I can run kdesudo.   But I have to do this every login, and it seems to also be breaking my display (whatever the issue is) because it keeps putting me in fail safe grafics mode.
[08:22] <Evanlec> Gmac, i guess its just apt-get purge <package>
[08:23] <Gmac> Evanlec: will try
[08:23] <pipelineaudio> can I somehow become root at the bootup options?
[08:23] <pipelineaudio> for osx?
[08:23] <pipelineaudio> like get to terminal or something?
[08:23] <marybuntu> anybody familiar with asterisk?  i *think* i downloaded it from synaptic, but it doesn't appear in any of my menus...
[08:23] <eko_hermiyanto> anybody know how to create odbc microsoft sql server connection from ubuntu?
[08:23] <Evanlec> pipelineaudio, for OSX? i think this channel is for Ubuntu Linux
[08:23] <greencookie> Evanlec: Ok whats tty now?
[08:23] <greencookie> tele type ?
[08:23] <pipelineaudio> yeah but you guys are about 450 times smarter by volume than the mactards
[08:23] <eko_hermiyanto> I need it badly, but, I could found no one information from the net
[08:24] <nickrud> marybuntu: it's not a graphical app, the instructions should be at /usr/share/doc/asterisk
[08:24] <Evanlec> greencookie, i think its just another way of saying a shell session, not positive on that tho, someone correct me?
[08:24] <greencookie> nickrud: yeah I'm loving this brute feel of the tty. I might just use irssi, lynx and nano:)
[08:24] <Gmac> Evanlec: sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree worked great
[08:24] <Evanlec> nickrud, what does tty mean?
[08:24] <marybuntu> nickrud: what a bummer. no gui?
[08:24] <greencookie> Evanlec: ah ok thanks
[08:24] <hamm_sand> Oh nevermind all thank you Evanlec for updating my brain **
[08:24] <incorrect> i don't know if i am just mistaken, but the fonts on my screen seem huge
[08:24] <nickrud> greencookie: yeah, try elinks, links, links2, and then you have mutt for mail
[08:24] <kraut> moin
[08:24] <Gmac> Evanlec: should i now just reinstall through the package manager?
[08:24] <incorrect> the dpi is set to 96
[08:24] <nickrud> Evanlec: teletype terminal
[08:25] <Evanlec> hamm_sand, np :0
[08:25] <nickrud> marybuntu: no, it's a server app
[08:25] <greencookie> nickrud: you think its possible to give up the worldy comforts of the Ubuntu gui and live the life of a VC monk for a month?
[08:25] <marybuntu> nickrud: how do i navigate to that file? search with thunar?
[08:25] <nickrud> greencookie: I did for months on end, while I was compiling linux from scratch. Ate my own dogfood while I was learning
[08:25] <Evanlec> nickrud, and why do they call it that? its the same as a virtual terminal accessed by ctrl+alt+f(x)
[08:26] <Evanlec> ?
[08:26] <Gmac> Evanlec: should I then just reinstall through package manager :)
[08:26] <nickrud> marybuntu: yes, you navigate to it
[08:26] <Evanlec> Gmac, this time u mght try installing it thru firefox
[08:26] <nickrud> Evanlec: from the days when a terminal was a keyboard and a printer
[08:26] <greencookie> nickrud: haha! I will try to do this for a week, since i've only had ubuntu for about a month and I'm new to the entire "linux" thingie.
[08:26] <Gmac> Evanlec: right, sorry for the step by step questions - how do I do that?
[08:26] <marybuntu> nickrud: i mean, HOW do i navigate to it?  me not so smart.
[08:27] <Evanlec> nickrud, lol, ohh, like a true terminal
[08:27] <greencookie> nickrud: is there anything the GUI can do that the terminal cant? apart from obvious things like games.
[08:27] <nickrud> marybuntu: ah, I don't use thunar, but I would expect it to act similar to explorer
[08:28] <Evanlec> greencookie, not that i can think of off my head, only dealbreaker for me was web browsing...lynx is nice but...its not very practical
[08:28] <brownie17> why won't graveman accept any audio for burning to an audio CD except WAV's?
[08:28] <brownie17> that doesn't really seem like a useful function
[08:28] <rugortino> #ubuntu-it
[08:28] <greencookie> Evanlec: I understand. esp if i wanna browse facebook.com:)
[08:28] <MilitantPotato> I keep getting Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server when I try to use kdesudo, running sudo xhost +local:jason makes it so I can run kdesudo.   But I have to do this every login, and it seems to also be breaking my display (whatever the issue is) because it keeps putting me in fail safe grafics mode.
[08:28] <pipelineaudio> probably cant distro lame with it
[08:28] <Evanlec> brownie17, sounds like a highly application specific error, i would search on their website
[08:28] <nickrud> greencookie: graphics in general, although you can get an app zgv to view them
[08:28] <greencookie> !gpm
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <brownie17> Evanlec, k thanks
[08:28] <nickrud> !info gpm | greencookie
[08:29] <ubotu> greencookie: gpm: General Purpose Mouse Interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.19.6-25 (gutsy), package size 372 kB, installed size 708 kB
[08:29] <Evanlec> greencookie, yea, or pornotube.com ;)
[08:29] <Gmac> Evanlec: do I just do it through Firefox Extensions ?
[08:29] <jdlizard> well evaniec still going through the long process
[08:29] <greencookie> Evanlec: LMFAO. Thats what television is for:)
[08:29] <Tarkus_> anyone know how to install affinity in gutsy?
[08:29] <Evanlec> Gmac, no just go to any flash page, and the firefox thing will pop up saying this page requires additonal plugins, just click that
[08:29] <nickrud> MilitantPotato: you might try asking on #kubuntu, they know kde better over there in the ghetto :)
[08:29] <jdlizard> does anyone know about the you tube thing
[08:30] <Evanlec> greencookie, well i duno about u but i dont get free porn on my tv
[08:30] <inversekinetix> how do you set cpu affinity in ubuntu
[08:30] <greencookie> Evanlec: nickrud: what if i wanna write a paper using just terminal. is there something like microsoft word for tty?:)
[08:30] <Evanlec> inversekinetix, affinity? like use this cpu over that? or priority?
[08:30] <MilitantPotato> nickrud: I am, I believe it has something to do with X user permissions, so I had hoped i'd get some help here
[08:30] <Gmac> Evanlec: FireFox doesn't seem to want to know (no addon popup)
[08:30] <greencookie> Evanlec: lol. ok.
[08:30] <nickrud> greencookie: emacs
[08:31] <nickrud> MilitantPotato: ah, does gksudo work properly?
[08:31] <greencookie> nickrud: thnx I was typing 'emac' not 'emacs'
[08:31] <Evanlec> Gmac, hmm, that suggests the problem lies within firefox, check firefox plug-ins see if anythings in there
[08:31] <Evanlec> greencookie, VIM!
[08:31] <soboy> hi,all
[08:31] <greencookie> Evanlec: you mean 'vi' ?
[08:31] <john__> hey guys so I have a dell imspiron 5150 running ubuntu gutsy...basically the screen freezes and i have to restart my whole laptop...i have a restricted nvidia driver installed
[08:31] <inversekinetix> Evanlec: which cpu to use
[08:31] <NeoTubNinja> there is vim also
[08:31] <Evanlec> greencookie, yes, vim is just vi enhanced
[08:31] <NeoTubNinja> not just vi
[08:32] <greencookie> Evanlec: I didn't even know how to exit that thing.
[08:32] <greencookie> Evanlec: ok once I finding apt-getting emacs:)
[08:32] <bullgard4> English help wanted. The normal Ubuntu 7.10 disk has a menu option "Start in Safe Graphics mode" or similar. What is its precise English name?
[08:32] <MilitantPotato> nickrud: yes.
[08:32] <NeoTubNinja> jedit anybody?
[08:32] <Evanlec> inversekinetix, i heard someone say that was possible, but not so simple as like windows task manager style
[08:32] <nickrud> MilitantPotato: then it seems to be a kde issue, not X
[08:32] <Evanlec> inversekinetix, otherwise i dont know sorry
[08:32] <MilitantPotato> nickrud: ok, thanks :)
[08:33] <Evanlec> greencookie, emacs is not that easy either
[08:33] <pipelineaudio> nareshov: its saying its not mounted
[08:33] <inversekinetix> Evanlec: np, i thought it should be easy in linux, i wanna use all my cores at once, not just max one out
[08:33] <marybuntu> nickrud: found it; can't make heads or tails of it... lol ... do you know of any open source pbx that comes with graphical interface?
[08:33] <Evanlec> greencookie, i know, i was frustrated with vi too when i stated, but once i started learning it, just fell in love
[08:33] <nareshov> pipelineaudio, mount it
[08:33] <pipelineaudio> how?
[08:33] <pipelineaudio> I click the mount button and no go
[08:33] <greencookie> brb
[08:33] <nareshov> bah
[08:34] <pipelineaudio> in the osx installer I mean
[08:34] <Evanlec> inversekinetix, recent linux kernels will do symmetrical multi-processing automatically
[08:34] <nickrud> marybuntu: no, I don't know of any. asterisk is the only pbx I know of, but it's not something I know much about
[08:34] <inversekinetix> Evanlec: Im running supre PI  and it only uses one cpu, the calculation time is slow
[08:34] <Evanlec> nickrud, why did u just convert him to emacs?! WHY?? :(
[08:35] <marybuntu> nickrud: k, thanks for your help.  i'll search around...
[08:35] <greencookie> Evanlec: I will try both. also, I will try lynx
[08:35] <Evanlec> inversekinetix, im not familiar with that program...what is it?
[08:35] <inversekinetix> Evanlec: its a program that figuires out PI to millions of decimal places
[08:35] <Evanlec> greencookie, oh, well lynx might be crap, its just the one i tried to use in a pinch to change router config, the others might be better
[08:36] <sfears> i saw a video of a person who could recite pi to millions of decemial places
[08:36] <Evanlec> greencookie, but I am stubbornly in support of Vi over emacs
[08:36] <Zombie> Anyone run OpenVPN on Ubuntu?
[08:36] <sfears> i was impressed
[08:36] <Evanlec> inversekinetix, ooh, that sounds like good stress tester ;)
[08:36] <greencookie> Evanlec: I will definitely consider it since emacs is taking so darn long to apt-get:) lol
[08:36] <Evanlec> inversekinetix, can i apt-get it?
[08:36] <nickrud> marybuntu: and I stand corrected, there's a gui in development, I found http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/asterisk_gui.html
[08:36] <greencookie> Evanlec: lynx looks like a pretty "cool" browser:) hehe
[08:36] <sfears> what's the apt-get uninstall command?
[08:36] <sfears> apt-get install remove
[08:37] <nickrud> sfears: apt-get remove
[08:37] <greencookie> Evanlec: as for Irssi, i'm already finding it irreplaceable.
[08:37] <sfears> ahhh
[08:37] <Evanlec> greencookie, thats because emacs is huge and bloated, and installs all sorts of helper apps and what not, it tries to integrate itself into every bowel of your system
[08:37] <inversekinetix> Evanlec no
[08:37] <nickrud> Evanlec: heresy. It is the bowel of your system
[08:37] <Evanlec> inversekinetix, can u point me to it? it could just be that app...i can test on my system
[08:37] <inversekinetix> Evanlec: http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=36
[08:37] <Evanlec> nickrud, well, i'll agree with that
[08:37] <incorrect> for some strange reason ubuntu can't find my audio hardware
[08:38] <nickrud> ouch. I walked into that one
[08:38] <Evanlec> nickrud, lol
[08:38] <Evanlec> nickrud, are u an emacs user?
[08:38] <greencookie> Evanlec: (gasp) virus?:)
[08:38] <inversekinetix> Evanlec: you might get a kick out of this too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eSwf5LxGAM
[08:38] <brownie17> ugh. i REALLY need a faster computer. even converting a couple of tracks to burn to CD takes half an hour
[08:38] <carl_> hi guys, I am trying to install a ubuntu 7.1 on my hp desktop computer (128 mb, 533 Mhz, celeron), but, when the instalation starts, this pass through indicator bar, and then try to load desktop of ubuntu, I can see the arrow, and backgroudnd, but never load gnome, how can I do ?
[08:39] <greencookie> nickrud: do you think lynx would be a good browser for a beginner like me?
[08:39] <nareshov> carl_, try fluxbuntu
[08:39] <nickrud> Evanlec: I used vim for years, and switched to emacs when I first started getting my feet wet on programming again, before moving to eclipse. vim is now replaced by nano
[08:39] <Evanlec> greencookie, ?
[08:39] <pipelineaudio> holy crap its installing
[08:39] <brownie17> nareshov, what is that?
[08:39] <nickrud> greencookie: sure, and try links, and elinks, and links2
[08:39] <nareshov> nickrud, emacs eh?
[08:39] <eko_hermiyanto> is there any driver for odbc for microsoft sql in ubuntu?
[08:39] <nareshov> fluxbox desktop
[08:39] <greencookie> Evanlec: yes?
[08:39] <Evanlec> nickrud, nano? isnt nano like the dumbed down version of all text editors?
[08:40] <carl_> nareshov, it is more slight I can think
[08:40] <Evanlec> nickrud, and why switch from vi to emacs for programming?
[08:40] <MongooseWA> moblock is blocking irc servers and gmail. how can i add stuff to its whitelist?
[08:40] <nickrud> nareshov: yeah, but I wasn't happy with it's handling of mixed html & php
[08:40] <rapid> emacs is a good os
[08:40] <brownie17> nareshov, what what is fluxbox?
[08:40] <rapid> :)
[08:40] <greencookie> nickrud: umm wow so many options. I plan to use eclipse eventually:)
[08:40] <nareshov> emacs is nice when you're debugging C/C++
[08:40] <greencookie> Evanlec: sometimes small is beautiful
[08:40] <nareshov> (which I haven't done)
[08:40] <bnqnq> anyone knows about WiFi not starting on 7.10?
[08:40] <nareshov> brownie17, fluxbox is a barebone window manager
[08:40] <greencookie> rapid: emacs is an OS??
[08:41] <rapid> hehe
[08:41] <rapid> just about
[08:41] <nareshov> ideal for less-powerful machines such as carl_ 's
[08:41] <nickrud> nareshov: I got annoyed with the modes. For system files it was fine, but I grew up using sidekick & other single mode editors, when I need a lot of text I don't like switching
[08:41] <greencookie> bnqnq: what wireless card is it?
[08:41] <raynix> any thinkpad users here?
[08:41] <brownie17> nareshov, oh okay. and it is compatible with all programs that gnome is?
[08:41] <carl_> nareshov, thanks man I am goint to see
[08:41] <Bambang_arjuna> hallo
[08:41] <nareshov> what do you mean compatible?
[08:41] <bnqnq> greencookie: dunno, but it worked with EE
[08:41] <Evanlec> greencookie, emacs behaves like an os
[08:41] <visik7> hi
[08:41] <Bambang_arjuna> need help on installing internal modem please
[08:41] <greencookie> rapid: I don't understand the joke, but I find it funny. cuz its still downloading for me:)
[08:41] <greencookie> Evanlec: no wonder its so big:)
[08:42] <rapid> :)
[08:42] <greencookie> bnqnq: and whats EE?
[08:42] <Evanlec> greencookie, yea, u said soething about virus?
[08:42] <bnqnq> greencookie: Ubuntu 7.04
[08:42] <Bambang_arjuna>  need help on installing internal modem please ..............
[08:42] <nareshov> oh
[08:42] <Pie-rat2> anyone else here have a problem with a blank or distorted splash screen on ubuntu startup? i just figured out how to fix it and wanted to share my knowledge. i'll probably add a wiki entry somewhere in the community support site
[08:42] <greencookie> Evanlec: lol is tehre any virus in linux?:) hehe
[08:42] <sfears> my splash doesn't work
[08:42] <greencookie> bnqnq: you mean FF
[08:42] <visik7> anyone use vmware-server 1.0.4 on feisty ? apt want continuoisly upgrade vmwareserver 1.0.4-1feisty1 with 1.0.4-1feisty1 yes the same version and every time I run the upgrade it ask me for another upgrade
[08:42] <sfears> says can't be found
[08:42] <nickrud> greencookie: you can use emacs for mail and web browsing as well. Some people never leave emacs except for graphics
[08:42] <bnqnq> greencookie: yes
[08:42] <brownie17> nareshov, i mean does it affect the usability of any repo programs?
[08:42] <greencookie> nickrud: ok im getting
[08:43] <nareshov> greencookie, even IRC :D
[08:43] <Evanlec> greencookie, there is virtually none
[08:43] <Gmac> Evanlec: got it working thanks! it was because I must of accidentally copied a couple of files over when transferring bookmarks.
[08:43] <sfears> i'd like to hear what worked for you pie-rat
[08:43] <greencookie> Evanlec: wow.
[08:43] <Pie-rat2> visik7: there's a bug with apt. there's no way to fix that problem, the same thing happens with compiz. you just have to ignore it
[08:43] <Evanlec> Gmac, great, how did u fix it?
[08:43] <MongooseWA> moblock is blocking irc servers and gmail. how can i add stuff to its whitelist?
[08:43] <greencookie> nareshov: nothing can replace irssi for me:)
[08:43] <nareshov> brownie17, I still don't get you, can you give me a specific case?
[08:43] <visik7> Pie-rat2:  :(
[08:43] <sfears> oohh yeah.. i'll ignore you
[08:43] <magnetron> !virus | greencookie
[08:43] <ubotu> greencookie: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:43] <greencookie> nareshov: unless xchat starts working again
[08:43] <Evanlec> greencookie, http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:43] <visik7> Pie-rat2: have you a link into launchpad ?
[08:43] <greencookie> ok how do I click that?
[08:43] <nareshov> knock of ~/.xchat and startover
[08:43] <Pie-rat2> visik7: you can pin the version in synaptic so it doesn't bug you with an icon
[08:44] <Pie-rat2> visik7: no, i don't.
[08:44] <greencookie> from irssi in tty1
[08:44] <Bambang_arjuna>  need help on installing internal modem please ..............
[08:44] <greencookie> brb
[08:44] <visik7> Pie-rat2: any reference ?
[08:44] <brownie17> nareshov, does firefox still work as normal? does rhythmbox still work as normal? or does the window manager not affect that at all?
[08:44] <nickrud> !dialup | Bambang_arjuna
[08:44] <ubotu> Bambang_arjuna: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[08:44] <Pie-rat2> visik7: but i was told by the compiz repo maintainer that it was a bug with apt, not with their repo
[08:45] <Gmac> Evanlec: Well before I copied over my old FireFox files I had made a back up of the fresh installed .mozilla directory. So I rolled back to that one, then re-copied over bookmarks back ontop.
[08:45] <Bambang_arjuna> yes, my internal modem not detected, i have compiling the slmodemd and wingrabmodem, but with no luck
[08:45] <visik7> Pie-rat2: ok I start to digg on google
[08:45] <nareshov> brownie17, in your fluxbox startup script add "exec /usr/bin/gnome-settings-daemon"
[08:45] <nickrud> Bambang_arjuna: that's about all I know about internal modems, sorry.
[08:45] <Evanlec> Gmac, ah i c
[08:45] <Gmac> Evanlec: I think I must have accidentally picked up the extensions file by mistake at the time.
[08:45] <brownie17> nareshov, okay thankyou
[08:45] <Evanlec> Gmac, yea
[08:45] <bullgard4> English help wanted. The normal Ubuntu 7.10 CD has a menu option "Start in Safe Graphics mode" or similar. What is its precise English name?
[08:45] <Pie-rat2> dialup in ubuntu seems kind of silly. you shouldn't have to download drivers to get a connection working. i had the same problem on a friends computer, i expected it to just work like most other things and it didn't.
[08:46] <Gmac> Evanlec: one other question if I could? (not FF related)
[08:46]  * Evanlec wants a core 2 quad
[08:46] <Evanlec> Gmac, sure
[08:46] <magnetron> i just installed gutsy. after the first boot, compiz worked without problem. however, after rebooting, i loose window borders. how can i get the window borders back?
[08:46] <rubydiamond> what is best mysq gui client in ubuntu?
[08:46] <Pie-rat2> magnetron: nvidia?
[08:46] <magnetron> Pie-rat2: yes
[08:46] <linxuz3r> hey guys
[08:46] <nareshov> rubydiamond, phpmyadmin :P
[08:46] <Pie-rat2> magnetron: proprietary drivers?
[08:46] <nickrud> rubydiamond: I use mysql-admin and mysql-query-browser
[08:47] <magnetron> Pie-rat2: yes
[08:47] <Gmac> Evanlec: I installed Wine backalong, uninstalled it as the application I wanted to run didn't work, and my Gnome Menu has been left with a load of shortcuts to nothing in the Other folder.
[08:47] <MongooseWA> moblock is blocking irc servers and gmail. how can i add stuff to its whitelist?
[08:47] <Pie-rat2> magnetron: sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals i think
[08:47] <Tarkus_> is LAMP installed/setup by default in gutsy? if not. where is the proper installation documentation for setting up LAMP on gutsy?
[08:47] <Gmac> Evanlec: I can't delete them through the Gnome Menu Manager
[08:47] <nickrud> rubydiamond: a lot of people swear by phpmyadmin, it's a web browser based version
[08:47] <nareshov> kmysqladmin if you're on KDE?
[08:47] <greencookie> whoa @ emacs
[08:47] <nickrud> !lamp | Tarkus_
[08:47] <ubotu> Tarkus_: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:48]  * nickrud makes a note to look at kmysqladmin
[08:48] <Evanlec> Gmac, hmm, well there is a way u can get into the config files for the menus, but thats a little rough
[08:48] <Evanlec> Gmac, my suggestion is to just apt-get install wine and see if u get actual menu items, then try uninstalling if u so desire
[08:48] <Gmac> Evanlec: it seems strange that its left a load of rubbish
[08:49] <Evanlec> Gmac, it happened to me too
[08:49] <Gmac> Evanlec: so reinstall wine, then try and de-install?
[08:49] <Evanlec> Gmac, wine's not so great at making menu entries
[08:49] <Bambang_arjuna> interl modem, wvdial no carrier "" problem
[08:49] <Gmac> Evanlec: problem is it was for a game, so I will need to reinstall the game :) ok thanks - will give it ago.
[08:49] <Evanlec> Gmac, yea, actually, dont apt-get, download the deb from winehq.com
[08:49] <greencookie> Evanlec: nickrud: ok I think it might take me some time (maybe a couple of years will do) to learn emacs. In the meanwhile is there any command based mp3 players? if such a thing exists lol!
[08:49] <Gmac> Evanlec: will do,
[08:49] <Evanlec> Gmac, i think thats what i did, and my menu items work nicely now
[08:49] <Tarkus_> nickrud, there is nothing in there for 7.10, do i just follow to 7.04 one?
[08:50] <pipelineaudio> am I more likely to encounter college twerps with suse or ubuntu?
[08:50] <sfears> what command brings konsole back to prompt?
[08:50] <nickrud> Tarkus_: yes, that hasn't changed
[08:50] <pipelineaudio> trying to decide which to put on my laptop
[08:50] <greencookie> pipelineaudio: ubuntu I think
[08:50] <Evanlec> greencookie, save urself the trouble and learn vim :) just type vimtutor at the cmd line
[08:50] <Pie-rat2> how can i get an ubotu factoid added or edited?
[08:50] <greencookie> pipelineaudio: I'd vote for ubuntu.
[08:50] <pipelineaudio> ok
[08:50] <Gmac> Evanlec: Right, thank you for the help!    Got to go
[08:50] <Evanlec> Gmac, you're very welcome
[08:50] <Bambang_arjuna> me too
[08:50] <greencookie> Evanlec: ok I think ill go with you for now and when I get my degree in IT ill switch to emacs:)
[08:50] <pipelineaudio> the jacklab guys will kick my but for installing ubuntu but ubuntu has synaptic
[08:51] <pipelineaudio> its almost possible for me to figure it out almost sort of
[08:51] <Tarkus_> nickrud, so for me to get a LAMP server install, etc.. i just run "sudo tasksel install lamp-server"?
[08:51] <pipelineaudio> suse scares me
[08:51] <Bambang_arjuna> if suse scre u, try gentoo
[08:51] <greencookie> nickrud: hehe. How do I exit emacs:)
[08:51] <nickrud> Tarkus_: yup
[08:51] <pipelineaudio> whats gentoo?
[08:51] <nickrud> greencookie: ctl-f c
[08:51] <greencookie> nickrud: nvm ctrl+c
[08:52] <pipelineaudio> man I wish all you linux guys would just get along lol
[08:52] <greencookie> nickrud: got it.
[08:52] <Bambang_arjuna> another distro, but u have to compile everything
[08:52] <nickrud> nah, linux from scratch, no automated builds :)
[08:52] <greencookie> pipelineaudio: go for ubuntu
[08:52] <nickwashere> Just updated and my ndiswrapper doesnt seem to be working anymore.  Anyone here help me out.  Cant live without wifi ;o)
[08:53] <greencookie> nickrud: are you a professor in Caltech?:)
[08:53] <nickrud> greencookie: lol, no, I'm just a putz who's been playing around for a while
[08:53] <nucc1> hi, I don't have dri enabled on my ati x1600 anymore, anyone kjnow why?
[08:53] <nickrud> greencookie: and on the scale of skill here, I maybe rate a 6
[08:53] <pipelineaudio> greencookie: Im following this guide (with relevant updates of course) so since its written for ubuntu, that should be a plus
[08:53] <pipelineaudio> http://www.davehayes.org/2007/04/27/howto-reaper-on-ubuntu-linux-with-wineasio/
[08:54] <pipelineaudio> only trouble I had with last install of ubuntu was getting the wireless working
[08:54] <gregorovius> I just tried to boot the realtime kernel, and after booting my computer becomes unresponsive, what can it be?
[08:54] <greencookie> nickrud: 6/10? wow. I must be a -15000e579 out of 10 lol
[08:54] <Evanlec> greencookie, type play at the cmd line, it will tell u what package to grab
[08:54] <greencookie> pipelineaudio: im a complete newbie and ubuntu is working great for me.
[08:54] <gregorovius> I can switch ttys, and type my login name, but it doesn't even ask me for a password, and there's no HD activity at all
[08:54] <Tarkus_> nickrud, hmm.. i got an error "tasksel: aptitude failed (100)"
[08:55] <Evanlec> greencookie, sudo apt-get install sox
[08:55] <greencookie> Evanlec: i'm running vimtutor on tty2:)
[08:55] <nickrud> greencookie: I was feeling kinda big when I wrote that, it's probably less. One always sees oneself from the wrong side of the telescope
[08:55] <gregorovius> heh, pipelineaudio is one of REAPER's greatest evangelists :)
[08:55] <nucc1> hey, dri help please, anyone
[08:55] <Evanlec> greencookie, sweet, next u can start using screen to be really l33t
[08:55] <greencookie> nickrud: wise words, wisely spoken:)
[08:55] <pipelineaudio> thats me :)
[08:55] <nickrud> Tarkus_: I used sudo aptitude install apache2 mysql-server-5.0 php5
[08:55] <john__> I HAvE one quiblle with UBUNTU my computer keeps freezing up
[08:55] <pipelineaudio> and I am going to spread the reaper madness even unto the linux world
[08:55] <greencookie> Evanlec: lol whats screen and whats l33t?
[08:55] <Tarkus_> nickrud, do i have to setup anything after installing the 3 packages though? or is that it?
[08:55] <greencookie> brb
[08:55] <pipelineaudio> at least the ones that arent already online
[08:56] <pipelineaudio> the college guys are the ones Im after at the moment
[08:56] <gregorovius> i'm using reaper on linux already ^^
[08:56] <pipelineaudio> awesome!
[08:56] <pipelineaudio> gregorovius: are you on ubuntu?
[08:56] <gregorovius> yeah
[08:56] <Tarkus_> whats the difference between "apt-get install" and "aptitude install"?
[08:56] <pipelineaudio> should I grab libjack 0.5? or 0.1 or what?
[08:56] <Evanlec> greencookie, screen allows u to have multiple "windows" inside one terminal, effectively having many terminals inside one
[08:56] <gregorovius> to install wineasio, pipelineaudio?
[08:56] <pipelineaudio> I think so
[08:57] <nucc1> hello everyone, dri suddenly stopped working on why laptop... can someone help me out?
[08:57] <pipelineaudio> Im just following dave's guide and grabbing whatever is newest
[08:57] <nickwashere> ndiswrapper not working after update.  Anyone with knowledge have a sec to help me get it back up?
[08:57] <gregorovius> 0.5, I think, use the newest
[08:57] <jimcooncat> Tarkus_: aptitude keeps track of dependencies better for when it's time to remove your app
[08:57] <pipelineaudio> cool
[08:57] <pipelineaudio> what soundcard are you using?
[08:57] <jimcooncat> Tarkus_: I don't know why it's not the default
[08:57] <nickrud> Tarkus_: you shouldn't, but if your php doesn't seem to be working, do sudo a2enmod php5
[08:57] <nucc1> ;(
[08:57] <Evanlec> nickrud, i just did sudo apt-get install apache2   that sql php stuff guess i'll have to install that later, only need php for doing <? php include ?> right now
[08:57] <greencookie> Evanlec: screen sounds l33t! hehe first lemme get sox
[08:58] <Evanlec> greencookie, ;)
[08:58] <nickrud> Tarkus_: and your web root is at /var/www
[08:58] <pipelineaudio> can I just install regular windows asio drivers with wineasio? or am I SOL if theres not a linux driver for my card?
[08:58] <jimcooncat> greencookie: screen is very powerful stuff
[08:58] <greencookie> Evanlec: I'm running out of ttys already. lol imi on tty5 by now. hehe
[08:58] <gregorovius> pipelineaudio, you have to use linux native drivers for the sound card, which one do you have?
[08:59] <nickrud> ooohhh, screen. greencookie you will be a geek very soon
[08:59] <greencookie> jimcooncat: I think I might need that pretty soon.
[08:59] <Tarkus_> nickrud, hmm, since its not in /home then do i need to do everything as root when im working in /var/www?
[08:59]  * greencookie grows a pair of geek glasses.
[08:59] <Evanlec> greencookie, yea, thats where screen is nice, its especially nice if ur using SSH or somewhere u have only ONE terminal ;p
[08:59] <pipelineaudio> the one thats on the laptop I use for demoing reaper is some sigmatel garbage, all it needs to do is play back, but I have this really cool line6 kb37 thing that I like to take with me
[08:59] <jimcooncat> greencookie: takes a little while to get used to. Ctrl-A ? is your friend
[08:59] <greencookie> Evanlec: ok and whats sox again
[08:59] <nickrud> Tarkus_: yes. a useful mode is sudo -i , that will give you root privs without having to type sudo each line, type exit to quit
[08:59] <pipelineaudio> but I can take a motu 8pre or 896 or traveller if need be
[09:00] <Evanlec> greencookie, command line audio player
[09:00] <Evanlec> greencookie, just type play <file>
[09:00] <greencookie> jimcooncat: I will keep that in mind.
[09:00] <greencookie> Evanlec: ok thanks. No chance of something with playlist eh? lol music library must be a dream:)
[09:01] <nickrud> hah. I don't have to go to work tomorrow. Just realized it. Gotta get some sleep so I can play. See you all about
[09:01] <gregorovius> pipelineaudio, don't know which ones are supported, I think the motus shoudl be
[09:01] <NotPullin> uh, so, if I installed a new kernel only having the linux-headers for it, what is the "right" way to build a new module from the source tree that wasn't included?
[09:01] <Tarkus_> nickrud, alright, thanks.
[09:01] <greencookie> jimcooncat: tho I think ill get screen once I learn irssi and lynx first
[09:01] <gregorovius> I don't record and output through spdif, so my soundcard doesn't matter
[09:01] <Evanlec> greencookie, well, u said command line...i gave u about the simplest cmd line music player there is
[09:01] <pipelineaudio> I saw some project for making the podproxt work Ill try warping it to my kb37 heh
[09:02] <Evanlec> nickrud, lucky u, laters
[09:02] <greencookie> Evanlec: hehe ok. I'll try it out for sure.
[09:02] <greencookie> brb
[09:02] <sfears> is there a way to rebuild menu icons, a lot of my K menu icons disapeard, the program still seem to work but graphics are blank
[09:02] <Evanlec> greencookie, me personally, i use folders as my library
[09:02] <Evanlec> greencookie, never cared for playlists and all that jazz
[09:04] <greencookie> Evanlec: brb work:(
[09:04] <Evanlec> greencookie, k
[09:05] <mel> bleh why doers nautilus go liek greyish color n freeze all the time when I tell it to delete a few files
[09:05] <brobostigon> hi
[09:05] <mel> hi brobostigon
[09:06] <greencookie> Evanlec: back:) I work call centre so at times I get angry cussing customers:) heh
[09:06] <kahrytan> ?Can someone help me set up ubuntu to work with a 1680x1050 widescreen monitor?
[09:06] <nucc1> nobody has dri working on an ati card?
[09:06] <greencookie> Evanlec: folders work for me:) heh
[09:06] <nucc1> kahrytan: what video card?
[09:06] <rapid> nucc1: i did, but it was mega suckie
[09:06] <kahrytan> nucc1,  nivida, builtin
[09:07] <legolas-San> Why doesn't Ubuntu have a "boot-only" CD version like FreeBSD does? Seems stupid like hell to waste bandwidth to download a 600 MB ISO and burn it when you could just get a few-MB installer which fetches all necessary (and UPDATED) files via FTP.
[09:07] <nucc1> kahrytan: use the 'screen and graphics' tool in the admin menu
[09:07] <kahrytan> nucc1,  nope
[09:07] <nucc1> legolas-San: if you were complaining of insufficient speed to grab the image, your case would have been stronger
[09:08] <nucc1> kahrytan: I mean, use that tool to configure the monitor
[09:08] <kahrytan> nucc1,  but it doesnt work
[09:08] <nucc1> you enable the "widescreen" check?
[09:09] <nucc1> kahrytan: because I am using 1680x1050 atm, only gripe I got is no dri on my ati card
[09:09] <kahrytan> nucc1,  It doesnt detect the monitor.
[09:09] <nucc1> use 'generic'
[09:09] <magnetron> i just installed gutsy. after the first boot, compiz worked without problem. however, after rebooting, i loose window borders. i use nvidia restricted driver. how can i get the window borders back?
[09:09] <legolas-San> nucc1: What?
[09:09] <nucc1> kahrytan: and choose the correct resolution
[09:10] <nucc1> legolas-San: I'm saying that your suggestion is a good one
[09:10] <hamm_sand> anyone here can help me with Emerald Theme-manageR?
[09:10] <greencookie> wow navigating lynx is a skill in itself.
[09:10] <tomd> legolas-San: debian has that.. i think it would create confusion to most new ubuntu users.. ill bet 5 bucks thats why if thats really so
[09:10] <kahrytan> nucc1,  Now it wont let me choose generic
[09:10] <nucc1> legolas-San: but given that the cost of getting those 600MB is mostly negligible these days, I won't consider it worth the trouble
[09:11] <d34dh4ck> its not bad after awhile, (i used linux when i set up a lfs box once, for the whole time i had that box running, never put x on it...lol
[09:11] <naicha> ddfx
[09:11] <kahrytan> geeze  Ubuntu cant support widescreen monitors  cant it
[09:11] <nucc1> kahrytan: you can't choose screen model 'generic'? and then get the correct resolution?
[09:11] <d34dh4ck> lol...lynx not linux
[09:11] <nucc1> kahrytan: I am using a widescreen monitor at 1680x1050 right now
[09:11] <kahrytan> nucc1,  cI cant get it to work
[09:11] <nucc1> kahrytan: and I had no trouble configuring it.
[09:11] <blink> hi all
[09:11] <greencookie> d34dh4ck: yep:)
[09:12] <kahrytan> nucc1,  Right now. model says 1680x1050 and resolution menu is blank
[09:12] <brobostigon> i use the alternate install cd, becuse i just think the live cd is daft an d idiotic, the live cd s for me just have never run properly,and are extremly slow.
[09:12] <nucc1> kahrytan: enable the 'widescreen' check
[09:12] <tomd> nucc1... true, doesn't ubuntu just mail you the cd for free?
[09:12] <greencookie> is there a multiplayer game for ttys?
[09:12] <greencookie> brb
[09:12] <tomd> i think I remember receiving a  few of those :-X
[09:13] <kahrytan> nucc1, I did but it doesnt keep when I press ok
[09:13] <proqesi`> where can I get a list of new graphics cards supported by ubuntu?
[09:13] <nucc1> kahrytan: you selected the right resolution and all?
[09:13] <NotPullin> man kernels are complicated
[09:13] <nucc1> kahrytan: but it doesn't apply whe you click ok?
[09:13] <blink> anybody know how to change mac addres of a ethernet card during startup of ubuntu, becouse i have two network cards with the same mac address
[09:13] <tomd> legolas-san: you don't have to download the 600mb, you can have ubuntu mail you some free cds!
[09:13] <kahrytan> nucc1, There is no apply and I choose LCD 1680x1050
[09:13] <humblerodent> proqesi`: AFAIK you can't go wrong with NVidia, and with ATI most cards should probably work as well, but NVidia is generally better for Linux
[09:14] <nucc1> kahrytan: click all the ok buttons you see
[09:14] <TheSB> Hi I am want to buy laptop (Dell Latitude 520) and the ‎GPU is "Intel® 950GML"  does any one knows if it is supported by ubuntu?
[09:14] <nucc1> kahrytan: 'ok'
[09:14] <brobostigon> they dont mail powerpc cds, so if you use a macintosh, forget it.
[09:14] <jimcooncat> blink: that's very strange, they're all supposed to be unique
[09:14] <kahrytan> nucc1,  IT DOESNT WORK
[09:14] <sidlet> Does anyone have a copy/link/mirror to the Banshee iPod Playlist plugin? I've been searching forever with no results :-|
[09:14] <nucc1> kahrytan: what drivers did you chose in the 'graphics card' tab?
[09:15] <biotrox> please help, i'm building a bash script to scan a lot of devices to check if they have a snmp capabilities or not... but my script error can anyone help me..? http://pastebin.com/m5d624142
[09:15] <kahrytan> nucc1, I cant push OK to save graphics prefs.
[09:15] <proqesi`> humblerodent: yeah my ATI card doesn't have 3d support so I'll probably try nvidia now
[09:15] <humblerodent> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[09:15] <blink> jimcooncat: i know but i changed it once permanently on my 3com and now i cant reverse it
[09:15] <nucc1> kahrytan: check that you are using the correct driver
[09:15] <jimcooncat> blink: I would think one of them has to be changeable, maybe it presents a way to set it when you first boot?
[09:15] <sidlet> TheSB, It'll work. Probably wont have any kind of 3d accelleration but it will work ;)
[09:15] <nucc1> what video card do you have?
[09:15] <humblerodent> ^ there is a list, proqesi`, but from what I can tell, at least looking at the NVidia list, it is incomplete.
[09:15] <nucc1> kahrytan: chck the 'graphics card' tab
[09:15] <kahrytan> nucc1, Nvida
[09:15] <tomd> brobostigon, you can use the airport extreme to download it and invisible skateboarders will shred up cyberspace bringing you back your iso at the speed of light
[09:15] <nucc1> kahrytan: use 'nv' in the driver place
[09:15] <tomd> :-x
[09:15] <humblerodent> proqesi`: also, you DID install the 3D accelerated driver right?  Ubuntu doesn't come with complete accelerated drivers out of the box.
[09:16] <misc--> hello, I've been using ubuntu then a few updates were done and my power went off and now my X craps itself saying it can't load the nvidia driver. Am using the nvidia driver through restricted driver manager, should I just run nvidia-installer --update to let it download another driver to install?
[09:16] <TheSB> sidlet:  thanks - so I will not be able to us compiz - right ?
[09:16] <biotrox> please help, i'm building a bash script to scan a lot of devices to check if they have a snmp capabilities or not... but my script error can anyone help me..? http://pastebin.com/m5d624142
[09:16] <kahrytan> nucc1, I prefer Nvida drivers.
[09:16] <nucc1> misc--: my dri suddenly disappeared after yesterdays update... it feels annoying.
[09:16] <misc--> nucc1: oh good I'm glad I'm not the only one =)
[09:16] <sidlet> TheSB, Thats the theory. it uses GL extensions pretty heavy.
[09:16] <nucc1> kahrytan: what model specifically is your card?
[09:17] <kahrytan> nucc1,  I always go with mfg drivers over OSS drivers
[09:17] <kahrytan> nucc1, It's not a card
[09:17] <kahrytan> nucc1,  Nvidia Geforce 6150SE
[09:17] <blink> jimcooncat: need to know where to disable it during reboot , not to load the forcedeth module which is used by nvidia ethernet card
[09:17] <nucc1> kahrytan: you are using the proprietary drivers. not a problem, is that what is currently set as your driver?
[09:17] <Xim> identigy xim
[09:17] <Xim> identify xim
[09:18] <hamm_sand> anyone know how to change skydomes in ubuntu 7.1 with compiz-fusion (emerald-theme-manager)?
[09:18] <biotrox> please help, i'm building a bash script to scan a lot of devices to check if they have a snmp capabilities or not... but my script error can anyone help me..? http://pastebin.com/m5d624142
[09:18] <kahrytan> nucc1,  What?
[09:18] <magnetron> i just installed gutsy. after the first boot, compiz worked without problem. however, after rebooting, i loose window borders. i use nvidia restricted driver. i already tried sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals, no difference.  how can i get the window borders back?
[09:19] <proqesi`> humblerodent: no, I didn't
[09:19] <rapid> biotrox: #bash
[09:19] <magnetron> hamm_sand: use ccsm
[09:19] <misc--> is there a way to reinstall the restricted nvidia driver?
[09:19] <TheSB> sidlet: thanks again - now I am new to ubuntu (currently using mandriva and centos ) , any pitfalls which I should know about beside the fact that root does not exists?
[09:20] <magnetron> misc--: reinstalling doesn't change anything in linux
[09:20] <glance> Hello.
[09:20] <sidlet> Uhm... depends on what your doing ;) I've been using *nix since 95 and its almost 100% different from what I remember. I'm 3 months back into using linux and Ubuntu hasn't given me any "pitfalls" so far. Just a learning curve.
[09:20] <glance> I am wondering if anyone seen any regression in the latest samba-update?
[09:20] <kahrytan> nucc1,  Okay. I got it set ti 1680x1050 but the resolution sucks. Text is messed up
[09:20] <magnetron> misc--: see if "restricted drivers manager" will help you
[09:20] <sidlet> glance, define "regression"
[09:20] <kahrytan> nucc1,  parts of letters would be erased.
[09:21] <magnetron> kahrytan: enable subpixel hinting
[09:21] <glance> on my sambaserver the nmbd SIGABRT's when it tries to become master ower a workgroup.
[09:21] <DaBonBon> the "compiz" package in ubuntu main repo includes stuff from both compiz and compiz-fusion ?
[09:21] <GreenNun> test
[09:21] <Tarkus_> nickrud, hmm. apache works fine.. but php isnt.. when i try to open the test .php file i made firefox tried to download the file, (i guess because its unable to read it).. any ideas?
[09:21] <kahrytan> magnetron,  where
[09:21] <glance> this is in dapper.
[09:21] <misc--> magnetron: mine did that too when I used beryl with the standard theme (emerald). I switched to another theme and it works (however I always have to restart beryl window manager upon login of X)
[09:21] <sidlet> Tarkus_, you need to enable the PHP extensions in apache.
[09:22] <greencookie> can someone tell me where to download mp3 using lynx:)
[09:22] <magnetron> misc--: i don't use beryl
[09:22] <misc--> magnetron: I tried that, all thats in there is the nvidia driver. I guess I could try disabling then enabling it again... it's currently set to dsiabled
[09:22] <misc--> err I mean enabled
[09:22] <greencookie> how do I page up in tty?
[09:22] <kahrytan> magnetron,  where or how?
[09:22] <Evanlec> Tarkus_, i think nickrud went to bed ;p
[09:22] <Evanlec> greencookie, shift+pgtup
[09:22] <misc--> magnetron: ok. Not sure then sorry. Never had a problem with just compiz
[09:22] <Tarkus_> sidlet, alright. so im trying to setup LAMP.. so all i did so far was "sudo aptitude install apache2 mysql-server-5.0 php5"
[09:23] <clarezoe> is anyone using compaq presario B1800
[09:23] <Tarkus_> Evanlec, ah, kk
[09:23] <DaBonBon> the "compiz" package in ubuntu main repo includes stuff from both compiz and compiz-fusion ? i mean, if i do apt-get install compiz, i don't need to do anything extra to get compiz-fusion ?
[09:23] <greencookie> Evanlec: shift+pgup doesnt work for me
[09:23] <Evanlec> Tarkus_, probly requires some more configuration than that
[09:23] <nucc1> kahrytan: restart your x server
[09:23] <sidlet> Tarkus_, I havent set up a LAMP server in forever. but I know that your problem is with apache's config. Its not setup to feed your php code to the PHP engine.
[09:23] <nucc1> kahrytan: or log out, and then back in
[09:23] <greencookie> Evanlec: does sox do streaming?
[09:23] <DaBonBon> i really don't understand what's the stuff with compiz compiz-fusion compiz-fusion-plugins-foo .. what is the difference between all these !
[09:24] <Tarkus_> !lamp
[09:24] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:24] <Evanlec> greencookie, streaming from or to?
[09:24] <nucc1> misc--:  is your dri working? mine's not, and I don't have any clues
[09:24] <Evanlec> greencookie, it might, check 'man play'
[09:25] <greencookie> Evanlec: Since I don't have any mp3's on this newly ubuntued laptop I was wondering if I could play my last.fm radio from terminal hehe
[09:25] <greencookie> ok Evanlec ok will do
[09:25] <nucc1> brb
[09:25] <misc--> nucc1: my whole X isn't working, let alone dri... all because of the nvidia module failing to load
[09:25] <kahrytan> nucc1,  It didnt help, text is still broken.
[09:25] <TheSB> sidlet:  :-) . I am using perl alot - mandriva support perl very well so a lot of modules comes out of the box (GD for example) - I also use kde - but now I see that gnome is much more usable. so I will have to learn to operate those issues  - what else should I learn? do you run virtual machin on your ubuntu ?
[09:25] <magnetron> greencookie: why from terminal?
[09:26] <Evanlec> magnetron, cuz he likes terminal ;p
[09:26] <greencookie> magnetron: I'm trying to turn into a geek:)
[09:26] <kahrytan> Can someone please help me setup ubuntu to work with 1680x1050?
[09:26] <rapid> !resolution
[09:26] <greencookie> magnetron: I was wondering if its possible to just "LIVE" in the terminal alone for about a month:)
[09:26] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:26] <sidlet> TheSB, Nah. wine takes care of everything I dont use OSS for.
[09:26] <rapid> kahrytan: ^^
[09:26] <magnetron> greencookie: then stop listening to last.fm ;) (irony)
[09:27] <kahrytan> rapid,  lol try again
[09:27] <Evanlec> TheSB, for virtualization, i recommend virtualbox
[09:27] <rapid> !resolution > kahrytan
[09:27] <greencookie> magnetron: I guess I'll have to;).
[09:27] <xanax`> hello
[09:27] <xanax`> Can someone help me find out what is the root password for these (k)ubuntu vmware appliances ?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Player
[09:27] <rapid> !resolution
[09:27] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:28] <amirf> can i run crontab manualy by ? "/etc/crontab" ?
[09:28] <kahrytan> rapid,  again, try harder again
[09:28] <magnetron> kahrytan: subpixel hinting is in the font preferences
[09:28] <fonk> hi - is it known or can anyone confirm that samba in lts is broken after the last update and nmbd crashed, or is it just my setup?
[09:28] <greencookie> !hello|nickrud
[09:28] <ubotu> nickrud: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:28] <magnetron> !root | xanax`
[09:28] <ubotu> xanax`: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:28] <rapid> amirf: ? man crontab
[09:28] <sidlet> Has anybody here built Banshee from source using their instructions? I've got a ? for you if you have.
[09:28] <xanax`> ubotu, sudo asks me to type a password...
[09:28] <greencookie> Lmfao@ubotu
[09:28] <xanax`> hmm
[09:28] <greencookie> ROFL@xanas
[09:29] <greencookie> xanax*
[09:29] <glance> when i downgrade to the old samba version it works.
[09:29] <kahrytan> magnetron,  does it need x restart?
[09:29] <magnetron> xanax`: type your OWN password
[09:29] <glance> something in the security fix broke the nmbd
[09:29] <bullgard4> English help wanted. The normal Ubuntu 7.10 CD has a menu option "Start in Safe Graphics mode" or similar. What is its precise English name?
[09:29] <magnetron> kahrytan: try it
[09:29] <kahrytan> magnetron,  yes or no.
[09:29] <sidlet> glance, I run a simple 3 machine setup. and samba isnt broken in my instance. Wish I could help.
[09:30] <kahrytan> magnetron,  yes or no.
[09:30] <Evanlec> bullgard4, use option if having error
[09:30] <TheSB> sidlet:  WOW - i never figured out how to install wine on my machines - it was broken after the compilation each time i tried. but I am using the virtual machines to test thing on linux machines so I can roll back to the last successful snapshot. (I am too lazy to reinstall )
[09:30] <magnetron> !attitude > kahrytan
[09:31] <sidlet> TheSB, I use ubuntu packages for wine :)
[09:31] <kahrytan> magnetron,  I cant see windows in xchat due to ubuntu's inability to display widescreen
[09:32] <_trine> do the madwifi drivers in Ubuntu still need to be patched to allow injection using the Atheros chipset ?
[09:32] <timewriter> what is libunixprintplugin.so ?
[09:32] <greencookie> brb smoke break!
[09:32] <greencookie> I'm seeing too much ascii
[09:32] <kahrytan> magnetron,  so just answer my question. does it require x restart to use subpixel?
[09:32] <sidlet> timewriter, its a binary plugin for printing under linux for whatever application you are using.
[09:32] <Clouse> Hello all,
[09:33] <glance> sidlet: have you upgraded to the latest security fix as of this morning?
[09:33] <bullgard4> Evanlec: I do not believe that your answer is correct. What I am looking for is the name of a menu option. I do not think that "option if having error" is the name of a menu option.
[09:33] <timewriter> its in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[09:33] <timewriter> do i need it ?
[09:33] <Clouse> I just installed 7.10 and I can't get a web page.
[09:33] <blizzkid> lo all, How would one get an n with a tilde? I see in /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/fr that it's AC09, but have no idea how to type it. My kb layout is French
[09:33] <sidlet> glance, oh. this morning? no. I was thinking of the update last week or so.
[09:33] <Evanlec> bullgard4, the menu option means....to start Xserver with default driver
[09:33] <sidlet> glance, fiesty or edgy?
[09:33] <nucco> can anyone help me get dri back?
[09:33] <Evanlec> bullgard4, failsafe mode
[09:33] <magnetron> kahrytan: no
[09:34] <ThcMan> !sources
[09:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:34] <glance> sidlet: USN-544-1 dapper.
[09:34] <sidlet> timewriter, Do you plan on printing?
[09:34] <glance> sidlet: the bulletin whent out last night.
[09:34] <sidlet> glance, i'm on fiesty.
[09:34] <kahrytan> then magnetron, changing the font setting doesnt work.
[09:34] <timewriter> i dont have printer
[09:34] <sidlet> glance, i'm assuming that would make a difference?
[09:34] <glance> sidlet: that security announcement is covering feisty allso
[09:34] <Clouse> I can ping ok and I can get to web sites fine with the IP but not with the URL.
[09:35] <sidlet> timewriter, you could always rename it and restart firefox to see if it breaks ;) if it doesnt, then theoretically no you dont need it.
[09:35] <glance> sidlet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/163042
[09:35] <timewriter> ok :)
[09:35] <magnetron> Clouse: yoe have a DNS server problem
[09:35] <sidlet> glance, have a link for me? I might want to break my samba install too :P
[09:35] <timewriter> it doesnt bother me if its there
[09:35] <Clouse> Is the DNS screwed up in 7.10 out of the box?
[09:36] <misc--> I fixed my nvidia problem. Just had to disable the restricted graphics driver then re-enable blah blah...
[09:36] <misc--> goodo now my windows go on fire before they close!
[09:36] <glance> sidlet: thats the link to the launchpad bug.
[09:36] <ThcMan> hey, where's that site that generates a sources.list?
[09:36] <sidlet> Clouse, try adding 207.217.120.83 to your /etc/resolv.conf
[09:36] <glance> sidlet: or do you want any other link?
[09:36] <ThcMan> !sources.list
[09:36] <nucco> misc--: hmmm, mine's fglrx, but lemme try that too
[09:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:36] <Clouse> Is this a known bug or is it just me
[09:36] <ThcMan> :x
[09:36] <Clouse> Ok sidlet thanks
[09:36] <misc--> nucco: why are you using that driver? Hmmm, I think fglrx is for ATI
[09:36] <DarkMageZ> Clouse, dns works fine on 7.10... something with your setup or isp.
[09:37] <sidlet> glance, nah. that link should do. afk reading.
[09:37] <glance> sidlet: just poke me if you find anything
[09:37] <sidlet> Clouse, thats an earthlink public DNS server. It should fix your resolution issue
[09:37] <Clouse> OK thanks DarkMageZ
[09:38] <bullgard4> Evanlec: I am sorry that you did not give me the correct answer.
[09:38] <nucco> misc--:  I've got an x1600
[09:38] <sidlet> Clouse, and i beleive you need to add nameserver before that ip... let me check real quick.
[09:38] <Clouse> OK thanks again sildlet
[09:38] <Evanlec> bullgard4, im sorry too, i dont know what you want me to tell you
[09:39] <sidlet> yeah, prefix that with nameserver. it should look like this. "nameserver 207.217.120.83" - minus the quotes. ymmv
[09:39] <bullgard4> Evanlec: Thank you for your effort, anyway.
[09:39] <kahrytan> nucco,  I fixed the problem
[09:39] <SlyerFox> hello this is my first time on here wondering if any of you may be able to help me out
[09:39] <nucco> kahrytan: how?
[09:39] <kahrytan> nucco,  Nvidia driver works better then nv
[09:39] <Clouse> Cheers, I will reboot into Ubuntu and try, thanks again
[09:40] <blizzkid> lo all, How would one get an n with a tilde? I see in /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/fr that it's AC09, but have no idea how to type it. My kb layout is French
[09:40] <sidlet> TheSB, heh.. i dont want to break my samba install tho :(
[09:40] <nucco> kahrytan: good for you... I still don't have DRI :(
[09:40] <ThcMan> !wireless
[09:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:40] <kahrytan> nucco,  dri?
[09:40] <ThcMan> !sound
[09:40] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:41] <SlyerFox> i installed ubuntu then had to format windows as it had a problem (dual boot) reinstalled the grub menu with a bit of effort all seemed wel but when i go into ubuntu it wont let me access any of the drives an does not see its own partition  says unable to mount volume on every drive help plz ???
[09:41] <nucco> kahrytan: I've got an ati card. dri enables OpenGL acceleration. Its not working for me, that means 3d stuff is slow
[09:41] <pipelineaudio> shit the osx install wiped the disk again :(
[09:41] <pipelineaudio> ok Im at gparted
[09:41] <pipelineaudio> says set disklabel
[09:41] <kahrytan> nucco, I am on my parents computer in hawaii. It has vista. I cant stand it
[09:41] <pipelineaudio> should I just use msdos?
[09:41] <kahrytan> nucco,  are you in -offtopic?
[09:42] <pipelineaudio> kahrytan where you at?
[09:42] <nucco> kahrytan: what is -offtopic?
[09:42] <pipelineaudio> Im from oahu
[09:42] <shelly0815_11313> hello?
[09:42] <shelly0815_11313> #macosx
[09:42] <kahrytan> pipelineaudio,  Waianae
[09:43] <shelly0815_11313> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9800812
[09:43] <pipelineaudio> cooool
[09:43] <mm2000> yo dudes! how can i install php5 apache-proxy module?
[09:43] <NotPullin> damnit, git checked out the wrong version of this kernel
[09:43] <shelly0815_11313> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9800812
[09:43] <pipelineaudio> when i lived there, if you didnt live waianae, you NEVAH go waianae :)
[09:44] <captbaritone> I have a strange problem where my server crashes and the keyboard can't type, but I can still switch terminals. Any ideas?
[09:44] <kahrytan> pipelineaudio,  it's not so bad here
[09:44] <shelly0815_11313> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9800812
[09:45] <pipelineaudio> I know, its all getting mellow
[09:45] <magnetron> how do i enable frequency scaling in gutsy?
[09:45] <shelly0815_11313> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9800812
[09:46] <shelly0815_11313> http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9800812
[09:46] <magnetron> !ops | shelly0815_11313
[09:46] <ubotu> shelly0815_11313: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[09:46] <sidlet> Does IRC have spam bots now? or is shelly0815_11313  looking for help by spamming a url?
[09:47] <sidlet> I guess that answered my question heh.
[09:47] <greencookie> guys quick question: If I ever wanna view a picture (jpeg file) through a tty, is it even possible?
[09:47] <kahrytan> pipelineaudio,  This is offtopic conversation join me in #kahrytan
[09:47] <gordonjcp> greencookie: yes
[09:48] <sidlet> greencookie, sure is if you have frame-buffer support enabled.
[09:48] <gordonjcp> greencookie: well, depends what you mean by tty
[09:48] <greencookie> gordonjcp: teach me that and I'll appreciate it:)
[09:48] <greencookie> frame-buffer sidlet meaning apt-get frame-buffer
[09:48] <sidlet> nope
[09:48] <greencookie> gordonjcp: I am trying to stay away from GUI part of ubuntu and strictly adhere to tty's:)
[09:48] <magnetron> how do i enable CPU frequency scaling in gutsy? i have a pentium 4
[09:48] <half_drunk> logged in as a different user, what command do i need to use to install with root access?
[09:48] <sidlet> when you load ubuntu do you see the frilly splash screen with the loader-bar?
[09:48] <gordonjcp> greencookie: ... oh-kaaay....
[09:49] <greencookie> sidlet: yes:)
[09:49] <gordonjcp> greencookie: each to their own I suppose
[09:49] <greencookie> gordonjcp: hehe I know crazy idea but I'm digging it so far:) so just wanted to know what my options are:)
[09:49] <gordonjcp> greencookie: and now that you're not running X, you can't get at your pr0n, is that right?
[09:49] <gordonjcp> ;-)
[09:49] <greencookie> gordonjcp: I've already stopped gdm:)
[09:49] <greencookie> gordonjcp: its not always about pr0n unfortunately
[09:49] <gordonjcp> greencookie: google for something like "linux framebuffer image viewer"
[09:49] <greencookie> ok gordonjcp here goes my lynx:)
[09:50] <gordonjcp> greencookie: links or elinks is better
[09:50] <gordonjcp> iirc elinks supports images on the framebuffer
[09:50] <greencookie> thnx
[09:50] <sidlet> greencookie, thenk you have fb support ;)
[09:50] <greencookie> sidlet: fb?:)
[09:51] <sidlet> fb = framebuffer
[09:51] <greencookie> sidlet: awesome:)
[09:51] <bullgard4> What are the properties of the 'safe graphics mode' of the Ubuntu Desktop CD?
[09:52] <tomd> gordonjcp: you can watch pr0n with svga you don
[09:52] <tomd> t need X
[09:52] <jimcooncat> greencookie: save this url for when you're ready for screen
[09:52] <tomd> use -vo svga on mplayer compiled with svga support.
[09:52] <jimcooncat> greencookie: http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/09/27/a-guide-to-gnu-screen/
[09:52] <tomd> although this is racy for #ubuntu
[09:52] <Moniker42> anyone know of a good app for gutsy that does ER diagramming?
[09:53] <tomd> and I'm not even talking ASCII, i mean full resolution
[09:53] <jimcooncat> greencookie: it's got a good setup for you, see the .screenrc list near the end of the article
[09:53] <tomd> although, ascII can be arousing
[09:55] <gordonjcp> tomd: I know
[09:55] <tomd> from experience :-X
[09:55] <gordonjcp> tomd: I can watch pretty much anything over a serial console, if I want
[09:55] <gordonjcp> tomd: it doesn't work so well on an DEC LA-36 though
[09:56] <tomd> well, thats when you resort to ascii.. although I can't say ive used a computer like that
[09:56] <sFEARs> when i use the sudo command logged in as a different user i don't get root access.  Anyone know how i can?
[09:56] <ZAKhan> dvd is not playing on my 7.10 .. wat should i do?
[09:57] <gordonjcp> tomd: I use computers that have no framebuffer device and indeed no concept of framebuffer every day
[09:57] <greencookie> jimcooncat: silly question:) how do I select that link out of irssi im runnin in tty1:)
[09:57] <Evanlec> alright i got a question: I want to save my current session (all apps open, window locations, files open, etc), but i want to be able to save it to a file or a list, so i can load it anytime...is this possible?
[09:58] <bullgard4> ZAKhan Check if you are a member of the group 'audio'
[09:58] <jimcooncat> greencookie: if you had screen you'd be able to copy it, lol
[09:58] <jimcooncat> greencookie: I'll shorten the url for you
[09:58] <greencookie> jimcooncat: appreciate it man:)O
[09:59] <greencookie> meanwhile lemme apt-get install screen on tty5
[09:59] <jimcooncat> greencookie: http://shortify.com/5556
[09:59] <Beastage> hi
[10:00] <mIrcDavCk> ciao
[10:00] <ZAKhan> bullgard4, there is no group as audio
[10:00] <greencookie> jimcooncat: thats a really helpful website:) shortify.com
[10:00] <Beastage> I have some issues with pixelized movie watching in 7.10
[10:00] <greencookie> btw it seems I already have screen, now to use it:)
[10:01] <buttercups> sFEARs, You need to give that user  Administer the system privileges,System >Admin>Users and Groups
[10:01] <jimcooncat> greencookie: I use it all the time to send urls by email
[10:01] <Beastage> anything I can do to improve movie and video quality in ubuntu?
[10:01] <greencookie> jimcooncat: are u using ttys and irssi as well?
[10:02] <bullgard4> ZAKhan: If you want to play audio from your DVD you need to be a member of the audio group. If you are not, join it.
[10:02] <greencookie> jimcooncat: does lynx have (gasp) tabbed browsing?:)
[10:02] <jimcooncat> greencookie: haven't used irssi; been a while since I really used screen, but I think I'll get back into it now
[10:02] <Evanlec> ahhhh, sessions control panel seems lacking some features........
[10:03] <greencookie> jimcooncat: yay! you have my full encouragement.
[10:03] <jimcooncat> greencookie: One of them does I think: lynx, links, elinks, don't remember
[10:04] <sidlet> lynx = moot. Try links or elinks
[10:04] <Beastage> I have problem with unsmooth and pixelized videos, anything I can do?
[10:04] <bullgard4> Beastage: Yes. Read a lot in the Ubuntu forums about 'Multimedia'
[10:04] <greencookie> jimcooncat: I hope its lynx, I don't wanna learn how to pilot a new webbrowser:)
[10:04] <ZAKhan> bullgard4, i cannot play video dvds .. totem gives an error "cannot read from resource" where is the same dvd works on my dvd player
[10:04] <greencookie> sidlet: explain what you mean by moot:)
[10:04] <Lenko> Hello
[10:04] <Evanlec> hah! shortify.com that is very clever
[10:05] <greencookie> sidlet: I'm also using vi as my microsoft word, is there something better? not emacs, thats wild for me:)
[10:05] <greencookie> Evanlec:  it is ..lol
[10:05] <sidlet> greencookie, use links or elinks and you'll see why i use the term "moot" ... (this is a family oriented channel :) I try to keep it PG)
[10:05] <Beastage> bullgard4: hmm, in general is it easy to fix? o
[10:05] <Evanlec> !dvd | ZAKhan
[10:05] <sidlet> greencookie, vim > *
[10:05] <ubotu> ZAKhan: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:05] <ThcMan> checking for gcc... gcc
[10:05] <ThcMan> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:05] <bullgard4> ZAKhan: Yes. You need to check if you are a member of the Unix group 'audio'.
[10:05] <ThcMan> what's wrong with my C compiler? :x
[10:05] <greencookie> sidlet: lol ok..
[10:05] <greencookie> haha vim > * Evanlec you dig?:)
[10:06] <sugus_asyik> ddd
[10:06] <greencookie> brb
[10:06] <Evanlec> no actually i dont get it, if thats a linux joke
[10:06] <Evanlec> lol
[10:06] <ThcMan> no one? any one?
[10:06] <nanonyme> greencookie, did you mean: /dev/null? ;)
[10:06] <Evanlec> okay i get it
[10:06] <Evanlec> lol
[10:07] <_trine> do the madwifi drivers in Ubuntu still need to be patched to allow injection using the Atheros chipset ?
[10:07] <Ubuntu_Noob> hey can someone help me compile dazuko in 7.10
[10:07] <Evanlec> ThcMan, sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[10:07] <ThcMan> cheers
[10:07] <Evanlec> *essential
[10:07] <bullgard4> Beastage: No, in general, not. But it will be easier for you if you know a lot about Multimedia in Ubuntu.
[10:08] <greencookie> nanonyme: what /dev/null?
[10:08] <Evanlec> bullgard4, what language?
[10:08] <greencookie> Evanlec: doh! even I get it lolol. * = wildcard character for everything
[10:08] <Evanlec> yea ;p
[10:08] <greencookie> but I dont get nanonyme's joke
[10:08] <Evanlec> took me a second too
[10:08] <nanonyme> greencookie, meh, missed the joke :P /dev/null instead of *
[10:08] <greencookie> still got a lot to learn
[10:08] <Ubuntu_Noob> anyone knows how to compile dazuko in 7.10....without teh errors...
[10:09] <bullgard4> Evanlec: In English there is the most documentation available.
[10:09] <_trine> do the madwifi drivers in Ubuntu still need to be patched to allow injection using the Atheros chipset ?
[10:09] <sidlet> greencookie, everyone has to start somewhere. I started in console too ;)
[10:09] <greencookie> ah lol@nanonyme
[10:09] <sidlet> greencookie, i'm just beyond the point of wanting a console. I'd rather have my bells and whistles.
[10:09] <guyvdb_> I am trying to set up a SOCKS proxy with command: ssh -nNT -D 10xxx user@domain.com -p SSHD_PORT but i get bind: Address already in use. Where though? Workstation side or server side? What am i doing wrong?
[10:09] <greencookie> sidlet: I started at GUI and dropped to console cuz things were so much simpler down under.
[10:09] <SpeeFak> hello
[10:09] <greencookie> sidlet: bells and whistles = good entertainment.
[10:09] <greencookie> sidlet: consoles = good work:)
[10:10] <greencookie> for me at least... so far;)
[10:10] <Lenko> I'm trying to update from 7.04 to 7.10 but the updater freezes after advise me that many packets not been supported by canonical and deleted after the actualization
[10:10] <sidlet> greencookie, Been there done that. I live by the theory "If you have to use a mouse to administer your machine, ship it to me and i'll pick up the S&H :))
[10:10] <SpeeFak> can some give me some tipps where i can find a channel which discusses unattendend installations for windows ?
[10:10] <sidlet> "
[10:10] <greencookie> sidlet: lmfao!
[10:10] <Lenko> (excuse my english :-) )
[10:10] <Evanlec> console is definitely a good thing to learn
[10:10] <magnetron> !windows | SpeeFak
[10:10] <ubotu> SpeeFak: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:10] <Evanlec> there are many things much easier to accomplish on a terminal than a gui
[10:10] <greencookie> Speefak #windows
[10:10] <ThcMan> agreed ^^
[10:10] <SpeeFak>  @ work i have 2 use MS
[10:10] <greencookie> Evanlec: and its interesting.
[10:11] <guyvdb_> Does anyone have a SOCKS proxy via ssh working?
[10:11] <Lenko> can I update the system from the iso?
[10:11] <SpeeFak> k i try greencookie
[10:11] <Evanlec> but there are also some things much easier to accomplish with a gui than a terminal, so it equals out, depending on your needs
[10:11] <greencookie> SpeeFak: whats ure native language?
[10:11] <tomd> guyvdb_: are you doing that as root? maybe the port # is reserved
[10:11] <Evanlec> greencookie, yea, u know how to do tab completion right?
[10:11] <greencookie> Evanlec: yep, the right tool at the right time = win.
[10:12] <Pie-rat2> how do i find out how much RAM my ATI integrated graphics card is allowed to use?
[10:12] <sidlet> heh... prepping a build environment for banshee... this reminds me of that other distro that uses portage *cough*
[10:12] <greencookie> Evanlec:  you mean type 'evan' then press tab key to let it fill ure name?
[10:12] <NotPullin> sweet jesus why is it so impossible to get the "right" kernel source
[10:12] <guyvdb_> tomd: I am not as root and have tried 10000 10001 which should be accessable by non priv user
[10:12] <ThcMan> i do almost everything with a terminal nowadays, except xchat and firefox and mousepad ("text editor")
[10:12] <Evanlec> greencookie, yea, and that works in the terminal to when ur typing filenames
[10:12] <ThcMan> i still don't get vim, and nano's ugly <_<
[10:12] <greencookie> ThcMan: i switched to vim :P
[10:12] <sidlet> ThcMan, put the joint down and read a book :P
[10:12] <tomd> guyvdb_ weird that bind() would complain about what you're doing
[10:13] <Evanlec> "vim isnt just a text editor, it's a way of life."
[10:13] <huji> Hi all. How can I change the URLs for apt-get downloads? (the regional xx.archive.ubuntu.com is not working well today, so I want to connet to another server)
[10:13] <greencookie> Evanlec: yep! I noticed, and boy does it save u time typing all those dots/dashes/underscores/numbers:)
[10:13] <greencookie> Evanlec:lol!
[10:13] <Evanlec> greencookie, yea, and of course u know the up and down arrow keys to recall cmds
[10:13] <guyvdb_> tomd: ssh asks me for password, i assume it authenticates with other side and then i get error message
[10:13] <sidlet> greencookie, i bet tab completion saves me about a billion keystrokes a year... and people wonder why I dont have stress injuries :D
[10:13] <greencookie> Evanlec: I learnt that the hard way.
[10:13] <TheFlyingfool> how do i find my cpu clockspeed
[10:14] <d34dh4ck> it has to be, lol...i cant use it, i allways for get the commands and stuff....nano is so much easier....
[10:14] <sidlet> ThcMan, btw that was just a joke :P
[10:14] <greencookie> lol
[10:14] <guyvdb_> tomd: is the command correct ssh -nNT -g -D 10001 user@domain.com -p 1234
[10:14] <Evanlec> TheFlyingfool, cat /proc/cpuinfo
 ThcMan, put the joint down and read a book :P <=- lol
[10:14] <jimcooncat> greencookie: elinks supports tabbed browsing!
[10:14] <greencookie> nano....hmm whats all this hype about nano:) maybe me should try it.
[10:14] <TheFlyingfool> Evanlec: thanks
[10:14] <guyvdb_> tomd: where remote sshd is running on port 1234
[10:14] <sidlet> greencookie, its similar to pico, and dos EDIT
[10:14] <Evanlec> nano is a dumbed down editor in my opinion
[10:14] <greencookie> ooo jim!! superb. thanks! now i just have to install that and a delicious plugin for elinks;)
[10:15] <Evanlec> Vi is much more powerful
[10:15] <sidlet> a stripped out emacs with zero bloat
[10:15] <d34dh4ck> i agree
[10:15] <d34dh4ck> but
[10:15] <huji> any idea?
[10:15] <d34dh4ck> it does what i need lol
[10:15] <greencookie> sidlet: emacs=gigantous.
[10:15] <d34dh4ck> emacs is an os disguiesed as a text editor....lol...
[10:15] <d34dh4ck> i love that quote...
[10:15] <sidlet> exactly!
[10:15] <sidlet> d34dh4ck, you nailed that one :
[10:15] <sidlet> :)
[10:15] <Evanlec> yea, well i understand the overwhelming number of commands in Vi
[10:16] <tomd> guyvdb_ yes you're right
[10:16] <sidlet> the emacs vs vi war is so timeless
[10:16] <sidlet> but really it belongs in #troll not in #ubuntu :D
[10:16] <greencookie> rofl d34dh4ck
[10:16] <Evanlec> but, if ur gonna learn a text edtior, might as well start with one that has room to grow as you grow
[10:16] <tomd> guyvdb_ the socket ssh is trying to name doesn't exist so bind returns the address in use error
[10:16] <Evanlec> sidlet, yea, but, no ones really awake right now ;p
[10:16] <Beastage> dammit...
[10:16] <tomd> guyvdb_ whatever the problem is is on the other end, because you're failing to connect
[10:16] <Beastage> too many threads
[10:17] <tomd> guyvdb_ I *think*
[10:17] <sidlet> we are, whats that say about us evan?
[10:17] <Beastage> when's the next ubuntu release?!
[10:17] <greencookie> well i've just used emac and vi for about 10 minutes each.
[10:17] <greencookie> and so far I like vimtutorial:)
[10:17] <_trine> do the madwifi drivers in Ubuntu still need to be patched to allow injection using the Atheros chipset ?
[10:17] <Evanlec> it says that i have a really f*cked up sleep schedule
[10:17] <guyvdb_> tomd: it prompts for password then nothing... if i simply do ssh user@domain -p port i connect fine
[10:17] <_trine> come guys
[10:17] <Evanlec> and that linux hacking keeps me awake ... far too often
[10:17] <_trine> its only yes or no
[10:17] <greencookie> I'm workin sidlet Evanlec :)
[10:17] <sidlet> greencookie, do a touch ~/.vimrc    then hit up dotfiles.org and look for some vimrc ideas to put in yours.
[10:17] <Evanlec> _trine, i dont think anyone knows the answer to your question, theres not that many of us here..
[10:18] <_trine> ok
[10:18] <_trine> tnx
[10:18] <Evanlec> greencookie, doing what? lol
[10:18] <greencookie> sidlet: o.0 customizing vim?:)
[10:18] <sidlet> greencookie, you have much to learn o padewan
[10:18] <Evanlec> sidlet, thats a very l33t idea
[10:18] <greencookie> Evanlec: lol good question. I'm working in customer service for an airline company.
[10:18] <nikin_> guyvdb_: can you tell the problem again? when does it not connect?
[10:18] <nubae> I'm trying to install php4 on Gutsy... is this still possible?
[10:18] <Evanlec> greencookie, oh sweet, i'd love to hack linux while getting paid
[10:18] <greencookie> sidlet: hehe, yep yep. im ready for the journey:)
[10:19] <sidlet> get to it
[10:19] <nubae> An application I require will work only with php4 and not php5
[10:19] <greencookie> Evanlec: lol.
[10:19] <nubae> I'd like to install php4 along side it really
[10:19] <guyvdb_> nikin_: when i do ssh -nNT -g -D 10001 user@domain.com -p 1234 i get password prompt then bind:Address already in use
[10:19] <Evanlec> nubae, perhaps try the backports, or find a .deb
[10:19] <greencookie> ok so I just started getting comfortable with lynx and now to get links? :-(
[10:19] <nubae> think I have backports in my repos
[10:19] <sidlet> Evanlec, are the packages from getdeb.org pretty trustworthy?
[10:20] <magnetron> guyvdb_: use another poert after yhe -D switch
[10:20] <sidlet> Evanlec, I'm re-thinking this whole compiling banshee from source bit. I really dont want all this bloat
[10:20] <Evanlec> greencookie, apparently elinks is the better terminal browser
[10:20] <guyvdb_> nikin_: i have tried a few ports after D
[10:20] <Merijn> how do I give write access to a folder for a certain user?
[10:20] <Beastage> gawd this is depressing
[10:20] <nubae> ah no I dont...
[10:20] <Evanlec> sidlet, i'd say so yea
[10:20] <sidlet> Beastage, what is buddy?
[10:20] <greencookie> Evanlec: ah.. make up your mind. lol ..k im getting elinks:)
[10:20] <Evanlec> !info banshee
[10:20] <ubotu> banshee: Audio Management and Playback application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13.1+dfsg-3 (gutsy), package size 2150 kB, installed size 6432 kB
[10:20] <Beastage> reading the forums video and mutlimedia threads
[10:21] <sidlet> feisty only has 0.12.1
[10:21] <greencookie> Evanlec: I used to like amarok.
[10:21] <greencookie> *USED*
[10:21] <Evanlec> yea, amarok is good, there's several ones that are great
[10:21] <sidlet> Amarok is a KDE app. I'm a gnome sloot. :P
[10:21]  * greencookie loves sox now ;)
[10:21] <Evanlec> right now im happy with plain ol' rhythmbox
[10:21] <sidlet> but for tty i used mpg123
[10:21] <Merijn> can someone help me please?
[10:21] <d34dh4ck> XMMS FTW....lol
[10:21] <Merijn> how do I give write access to a folder for a certain user?
[10:21] <Evanlec> seems to be lacking an EQUALIZER tho...lord
[10:21] <pelny> na.pl
[10:21] <guyvdb_> magnetron: is the port on the workstation or the remote (server) side. netstat shows port not in use on both sides?
[10:21] <ThcMan> raise your hand if you know where i can get a driver for "VIA VT6102 PCI 10/100Mb Ethernet Controller"
[10:21] <Evanlec> umm, isnt XMMS deprecated?
[10:21] <sidlet> Beastage, theres alot of issues with multimedia home-fry. I feel your pain.
[10:22] <magnetron> guyvdb_: local
[10:22] <ThcMan> 2.6.20-15-generic <=- meh kernel
[10:22] <jimcooncat> greencookie: in elinks, use F9 to activate the menu. All should be easy from there
[10:22] <sidlet> Audacious is the revived xmms
[10:22] <greencookie> sidlet: mpg123 does it have library or playlist?
[10:22] <nubae> Package libapache2-mod-php4 is not available, but is referred to by another package
[10:22] <tomd> guyvdb_ have you tried specifying different bind addresses for -D
[10:22] <greencookie> jimcooncat: ok ill get elinks.. sec
[10:22] <sidlet> greencookie, nope just a standalone player.
[10:22] <nubae> thast with backports enabled
[10:22] <ThcMan> Evanlec: Audacious is a fork of xmms that's actually developed nowadays iirc
[10:22] <greencookie> sidlet: ok
[10:22] <guyvdb_> tomd: no
[10:22] <Evanlec> yea, audacious is its replacement
[10:22] <sidlet> oh my i'm so pimp
[10:22] <sidlet> i mentioned audacious first
[10:22] <Beastage> exaile aint bad
[10:22]  * sidlet is almost l33t at 4:30 in the morning
[10:22] <d34dh4ck> prolly, i use it for streams...
[10:23] <ThcMan> sidlet: i was prolly more concerned with my lack of wireless card drivers :x
[10:23] <greencookie> jimcooncat: was it elinks that had tabbed browse?
[10:23] <d34dh4ck> lol...i didn't know that....i will start using that then...
[10:23] <nubae> all I see is php4-interbase in the repos
[10:23] <tomd> guyvdb_ -D [bind_address:]port  .... * means all, if localhost is specified only the local machine can connect, etc.
[10:23] <guyvdb_> magnetron:, tomd: just tried 50000, 50001, 60000, 60001 all same response
[10:23] <greencookie> guys which command line player allows listening to radio streams?
[10:23] <ThcMan> !drivers
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <ThcMan> !@#$
[10:23] <ThcMan> !botsnack
[10:23] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[10:23] <nubae> !php4
[10:23] <d34dh4ck> hmmm...does the xmms plugins for stuff work with it? like gkrellm?
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about php4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <nikin_> guyvdb_: -D needs a hostname... i think you need -b ... look man page
[10:23] <ThcMan> mplayer is the only cli player i've ever even used
[10:24] <Evanlec> nubae, check getdeb.org
[10:24] <d34dh4ck> same here thcman
[10:24] <greencookie> ThcMan: whats cli
[10:24] <d34dh4ck> command line
[10:24] <greencookie> ThcMan: thnx.
[10:24] <jimcooncat> greencookie: yes, elinks
[10:24] <nubae> so its no longar supported through ubuntu channels?
[10:24] <Evanlec> nubae, it would appear not
[10:24] <greencookie> jimcooncat: ok so i used links, it looks like the evolution of browsers. first lynx, now that looks crude in front of links lol.
[10:24] <Evanlec> !info php4
[10:24] <ubotu> Package php4 does not exist in gutsy
[10:25] <greencookie> jimcooncat: now aptgetting elinks
[10:25] <guyvdb_> nikin_: hmm.. don't i need -D for the local end of the proxy?
[10:25] <nubae> getdeb.org takes me to a domain for sale site
[10:25] <magnetron> nubae: it is if you use 6.06 LTS IIRC
[10:25]  * greencookie puts on his thinking cap.
[10:25] <Evanlec> does anyone know whats up with Saving sessions? am i just missing something?
[10:25] <Evanlec> how do i dooo it??
[10:25] <tomd> guyvdb try it with -D *:10001
[10:25] <nubae> magnetron, I'm running edubuntu Gutsy LTSP so thats not an option
[10:25] <tomd> use the wildcard
[10:26] <magnetron> nubae: there is no gutsy LTS
[10:26] <nubae> LTS_P_
[10:26] <NotPullin> uh, is is possible to build a module for my kernel having only the linux-headers for it, and not the actual source?
[10:26] <Haemoth> I enabled subpixel smoothing but it looks strange and not easy on the eyes. Is that because of my screen resolution (1920 x 1200)? Is subpixel smoothing intended only for low resolution screens?
[10:26] <nubae> linux terminal server project
[10:27] <ghost_> #ubuntu-au
[10:27] <Evanlec> NotPullin, i believe it is, but i've never been succesful :)
[10:27] <menko> hi, is it possible to upgrade using the live cd?
[10:27] <menko> from 7.04 to 7.10
[10:27] <greencookie> Ok its official, I think elinks is IT for me:)
[10:27] <bullgard4> !envy
[10:27] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[10:27] <nanonyme> i can see why not
[10:27] <Evanlec> what nanonyme ?
[10:28] <nanonyme> the menko's question
[10:28] <magnetron> menko: no, only if you use the alternate cd
[10:28] <Evanlec> oh
[10:28] <nanonyme> just edit /etc/apt/sources.list to have the cd as a repository
[10:28] <Evanlec> how do i save my current session!@!@!
[10:28] <mr_gne> my ubuntu don't see the integrated webcam, on a asus v1s, driver not supported, can you help me, i'm new...
[10:28] <greencookie> Evanlec: hibernate?:)
[10:28] <carl_> ls
[10:29] <nanonyme> magnetron, erm, are you sure livecd doesn't work as a repository?
[10:29] <Evanlec> noooo, i wanna save it in a box and have it for later!
[10:29] <greencookie> brb
[10:29] <nubae> its getdeb.net, not getdeb.org btw...
[10:29] <Evanlec> thx
[10:29] <Aintaer> Okay after 4 hours of attempted setup, I give up.  How do I get MythTV to display the composite in on my generic philips 7134 card?
[10:29] <lix> mr_gne: a german howto: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/127919/
[10:29] <Evanlec> i have my web development layout setup here, got all the apps, websites, files i need....if i could have it all come back again that would be MARVELOUS!
[10:30] <nanonyme> since if it does, you could just change /etc/apt/sources.list to have gutsy instead of feisty and use the cd as the first repository
[10:30] <nanonyme> then after updating apt, you can upgrade to gutsy using the cd
[10:30] <anthony> you know when you download something from the internet it saves in cache how do i delete cache to gain more hdd space
[10:30] <sidlet> bbiaf
[10:31] <greencookie> back
[10:31] <magnetron> anthony: you web browser has a menu for clearing cache
[10:32] <greencookie> Evanlec: you need something like norton ghost maybe?
[10:32] <Evanlec> greencookie, no thats different, all i want is it to remember what apps i have open
[10:32] <Zombie> Aintaer: I have one of those.
[10:32] <Evanlec> greencookie, and it will do that sorta, but i need to have that info saved so i can call it up whenever
[10:32] <Zombie> But don't use it for output, only inpuyr.
[10:32] <Zombie> But don't use it for output, only input.
[10:33] <greencookie> Evanlec: hmmm. I wish I could help you. but I have little knowledge:)
[10:33] <Evanlec> greencookie, how long u been using *nix ?
[10:33] <greencookie> Evanlec: needless to say, you've googled rite?
[10:33] <bullgard4> What are the properties of the 'safe graphics mode' which you can choose as a menu option and operating mode of the Ubuntu desktop CD?
[10:33] <greencookie> Evanlec: about 2 months straight now.
[10:33] <Evanlec> greencookie, im searchin the forums
[10:33] <greencookie> I started using *nix after quitting World of Warcraft. hehe. this is my WoW rebound i guess;)
[10:33] <Evanlec> greencookie, this is ur first foray into the CLI?
[10:34] <greencookie> jimcooncat: I looooooooooove the f9 key:)
[10:34] <Evanlec> greencookie, well atleast when ur doing this it looks like ur doing something important rather htan just playing a game
[10:34] <greencookie> Evanlec: rest assured it is. adventurous times for me:)
[10:34] <Zombie> Anyone here use OpenVPN?
[10:34] <jimcooncat> greencookie: I'm enjoying it too, you may have brought me back to the console!
[10:34] <magnetron> please join me in #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support stuff
[10:34] <nubae> jeez, so php4 is nowhere to be found... this is a pretty stupid decision
[10:34] <nubae> it still has a release coming in december
[10:35] <greencookie> jimcooncat: woohoo. what a way to utilize the 256 dedicated ram on my ati radeon card:)
[10:35] <Evanlec> nubae, i dont know much about it honestly
[10:35] <nubae> there must be thousands of devs with code that doesnt work on php5 yet
[10:35] <nubae> now they cant use their apps anymore
[10:35] <nubae> wonderful
[10:36] <buttercups> Evanlec, enable automatically remember running applications when logging out?
[10:36] <greencookie> jimcooncat: if only tty had sort of a growl notification system or something lol. But i guess we shudn't be too greedy:)
[10:36] <magnetron> nubae: they can, using old operating systems
[10:36] <greencookie> is there a msn messenger clone for cli?
[10:36] <Evanlec> buttercups, okay, but thats just going to remember them if they're running when i log out and restore them when i log back in...
[10:37] <Evanlec> buttercups, i want to be able to pull up a saved session at any time
[10:37] <guyvdb_> How do i set up a socks proxy with open ssh ?
[10:37] <nubae> magnetron, as I explained before, I cannot use an older system, for example, because I require ltsp 5.0
[10:37] <nubae> thats only in edubuntu gutsy
[10:37] <nubae> its a stupid decision
[10:37] <nubae> why take php4 out without putting it in backports or at least multiverse
[10:38] <Evanlec> nubae, if backports said it referred to php4, i would look a little harder
[10:38] <ghost_> Someone able to assist with a resolution problem in 7.10(Eventually wanting twinview)
[10:38] <nubae> its not backports evanlec, its apt that refers to it
[10:38] <detectiveinspekt> Hello what is a good music player for ubuntu, mp3 in particular?
[10:38] <nubae> doing a apt-cache search reveals only interbase-php4 in there
[10:39] <Evanlec> yes but usually when i get that message, it means the package is somewhere just different name
[10:39] <magnetron> !mp3 | detectiveinspekt
[10:39] <ubotu> detectiveinspekt: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:39] <whyking_> I have an existing, bootable windows install on my hd, whats the best way to start that from linux? qemu, vmware...?
[10:39] <nubae> evanlec, maybe some other repository u mean?
[10:40] <Evanlec> whyking_, choose to boot into it when u start ur computer ... no virtualization stuff for that
[10:40] <Evanlec> nubae, yea maybe
[10:40] <greencookie> Wow! elinks even got a password manager. rofl! awesomeness.
[10:41] <nubae> well all I see on a php4 gutsy apt-get search is many many angry web pages of people that are having the same problem as me
[10:41] <Evanlec> oh
[10:41] <conatic> hi, i d like to test kde4 how could I do ?
[10:41] <Evanlec> well the worst may be reality
[10:41] <whyking_> Evanlec, sure, thats what I have.. but I want to have it start under linux
[10:41] <Evanlec> conatic, subscribe to their cvs repo
[10:42] <Evanlec> whyking_, well, i had the same question, apparently it is possible, but highly not recommended
[10:42] <mneisen> Hi, I just installed amavis on a fresh Ubuntu Gutsy. When I start amavis using the init-script, I get the following error:
[10:42] <mneisen> Nov 16 11:39:01 neu amavis[24473]: Net::Server: Accept failed with 29 tries left.
[10:42] <Evanlec> you are better off just installing a new windows vm, then copying ur data from your old windows partition
[10:42] <mneisen> Nov 16 11:39:01 neu amavis[24473]: Net::Server: Accept failed with 28 tries left.
[10:43] <mneisen> And so on, until the number of tries left reaches 0.
[10:43] <mneisen> Then:
[10:43] <mneisen> Nov 16 11:39:01 neu amavis[24472]: Net::Server: Ran out of accept retries!
[10:43] <mneisen> And the whole thing starts a-new.
[10:43] <whyking_> Evanlec, hm.. there are so many solutions.. qemu should work jsut fine
[10:43] <Evanlec> mneisen, okay, stop spamming please
[10:43] <mneisen> Does anybody know what I did do wrong?
[10:43] <mneisen> Evanlec: sorry, but i cannot see where this is spamming.
[10:43] <ghost_> Hi, Trying to get my resolution to 1440x900 but keeps dropping back to 800x600, any ideas? (Gutsy)
[10:44] <Evanlec> mneisen, u just put out 9 lines in a row
[10:44] <Evanlec> its called trolling/spamming/pasting what have you
[10:44] <Evanlec> its frowned upon here
[10:44] <mneisen> No, I think spamming is when I paste a huge file into IRC.
[10:45] <mneisen> I just posted three lines of output and asked a question.
[10:45] <Evanlec> im not gonna argue with you about it
[10:45] <Evanlec> but u didnt make a great entrance
[10:45] <mneisen> Evanlec: OK, I will try to behave in the future.
[10:45] <Evanlec> well, dont do it for me, do it for yourself if u want someone to help you
[10:45] <mneisen> Evanlec: Will do.
[10:46] <Evanlec> i have no idea what amavis is so i cant
[10:46] <mneisen> Evanlec: Could you please tell me how I could have handled this any better?
[10:46] <Evanlec> u couldve just said, I'm having trouble amavis, anyone help me?
[10:46] <Evanlec> *with
[10:47] <Evanlec> then if someone offers, u could paste ur output and what not
[10:47] <mneisen> Evanlec: OK, I just read in some article about netiquette that you should give more specific details when asking a question. Sorry to have done it wrong here.
[10:47] <Evanlec> well generally yes thats a good idea, but this is a very busy channel
[10:47] <Evanlec> its not right now because of the time
[10:48] <Evanlec> but it is usually a madhouse in here
[10:48] <Myrtti> heyheyhey
[10:48] <mr_gne> help me if u can... integrated laptop webcam not supported
[10:48] <Myrtti> what's going on here
[10:48] <Evanlec> and people printing more than 3 successive lines are usually kicked out
[10:48] <sidlet> greencookie: Having fun customizing vim yet?
[10:48] <ghost_> Evanlec. what time does it generally pick up?
[10:48] <Evanlec> shouldnt be long now when the UK ppl get on
[10:49] <sidlet> Evanlec: you using irssi?
[10:49] <Evanlec> nah, xchat ;p
[10:49] <mneisen> I'm having trouble amavis, anyone help me?
[10:49] <Evanlec> i like irssi but...theres some things xchat just makes easier
[10:49] <rishabh_> Hi all! Jack refuses to connect: loading driver ..   apparent rate = 44100     creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit     control device hw:0     the playback device "hw:0" is already in use. Please stop the application using it and run JACK again   cannot load driver module alsa    no message buffer overruns
[10:50] <sirbijan> hey room
[10:50] <Evanlec> mneisen, lol, u dont have to quote my typos verbatim
[10:50] <sirbijan> got a stupid easy question, care to answer?!
[10:50] <Evanlec> shoot
[10:50] <sirbijan> quoting verbatim's cool!
[10:50] <mneisen> Evanlec: Just tried to learn from the master :-D
[10:50] <sirbijan> i like a clean desktop
[10:50] <buttercups> Evanlec, create multiple users, save sessions, switch back and forth, good question =)
[10:50] <rishabh_> When I play audio files, I get proper sound. Sound in Firefox doesn't work at all.
[10:51] <Evanlec> mneisen, mm hm
[10:51] <sirbijan> but ubuntu puts my partition names (hda1, ....) on the desktop and I can't just delete'em
[10:51] <sirbijan> any remedy?!
[10:51] <Evanlec> buttercups, that sounds like a less than elegant solution...but im glad ur thinking!
[10:51] <rishabh_> sirbijan: Press Alt+F2, type "gconf-editor"
[10:52] <sirbijan> ok
[10:52] <Evanlec> buttercups, can u see how it would be useful tho? for example, if i wanna do web development, there's a bunch of apps, windows, files/folders, and websites/info that i need open, it would be nice to just be able to have it all open for me with 1 click
[10:52] <sirbijan> then? going to desktop and then...
[10:52] <rishabh_> sirbijan: navigate to "apps" and to "nautilus"
[10:52] <wiseleo> Good evening :)
[10:53] <rishabh_> sirbijan: uncheck "volumes visible"
[10:53] <sirbijan> wow, then volums_visible
[10:53] <sirbijan> :D
[10:53] <sirbijan> cool man
[10:53] <sirbijan> thank
[10:53] <sirbijan> s
[10:53] <rishabh_> welcome
[10:53] <Evanlec> wiseleo, good morning
[10:53] <dooglus> I want to use a webcam with gutsy.  do I need to be careful which one I buy?  do they all work?  is there anything to look out for?
[10:54] <ToMaK> how to uninstall ubuntu 7.04
[10:54] <buttercups> Evanlec, i agree
[10:54] <Evanlec> buttercups, u see my point?
[10:54] <nucco> any one so kind as to help me resolve my DRI issues??? :(
[10:54] <wiseleo> So far failed to install gforge with.. gutsy, fiesty... now going back to dapper...
[10:54] <greencookie> sidlet: lol no. sorry for late reply, was with customer. I havent even finished vim tutorials yet:)
[10:54] <dooglus> !webcam
[10:54] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:54] <rishabh_> Can anyone help with my sound drivers? ?
[10:54] <buttercups> Evanlec, yes now its bothering me not knowing how =)
[10:54] <greencookie> sidlet: <3 elinks tho:)
[10:54] <Evanlec> buttercups, there must be a way to do it, the functionality is already there, i just need to be able to save sessions persisently
[10:55] <sidlet> greencookie: Thats good :)
[10:55] <sirbijan> one more question, where are my desktop trash files stored?
[10:55] <sirbijan> oddly there are some files in the trash I can't delete
[10:55] <nucco> hey, is anyone using an ati x1600 in here?
[10:55] <sirbijan> i need to go to the directory manually and delete'em by root i guess
[10:55] <Slart> sirbijan: there are .trash or perhaps .Trash directories in lots of places
[10:55] <Evanlec> greencookie, u dont need to do the entire vimtutor in one session, just do like the first 5 lessons, then practice it a bit outside
[10:55] <ToMaK> i want to uninstall ubuntu7.04 on my lapetop.anyone know the best way to uninstall it
[10:56] <Slart> sirbijan: check your home directory
[10:56] <Evanlec> ToMaK, delete the partition...
[10:56] <Evanlec> lol
[10:56] <greencookie> Evanlec: loving 'h''j''k''l';)
[10:56] <sirbijan> wow, i got it, i looked for .trash, but the true name is .Trash!
[10:56] <sirbijan> thanks Slart
[10:56] <ToMaK> evanlec - i had already done that
[10:56] <Evanlec> greencookie, yea its great,
[10:56] <Slart> sirbijan: yes.. that one got me a few times too.. nasty case sensitive os =)
[10:56] <Evanlec> ToMaK, then it should be gone, use a windows disc to overwrite your MBR
[10:57] <penguincentral> hi.  I have a plantronics usb headset, and I want the audio that is played in firefox to come out of my headset instead of my speakers.  how can i do this?
[10:57] <sirbijan> ;)
[10:57] <rishabh_> Hey! How do I find out if any process is using "hw:0"? Jack control says it's blocked!
[10:57] <ToMaK> evanlec - owh icic thx for the tips
[10:57] <buttercups> Evanlec, have you heard of Xnest?
[10:58] <Evanlec> buttercups, no, please enlighten me :)
[10:58] <sirbijan> hey guys, this question doesn't relate to ubuntu, but now that i can feel the cacoon of friendship here, i shoot, don't get mad at me!
[10:58] <ToMaK> what is the diffreances of ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu?
[10:58] <dooglus> ToMaK: different default packages is all
[10:58] <wiseleo> different flavors... same thing
[10:58] <sirbijan> what cell phone do you personally suggest me to buy?! I wana know your ideas
[10:58] <buttercups> Evanlec, me either just ran across it , http://lifehacker.com/software/notag/run-multiple-sessions-at-the-same-time-with-xnest-268745.php
[10:58] <ToMaK> and wich oone is better?
[10:58] <wiseleo> sir - Windows Mobile 6.0 device :)
[10:59] <sirbijan> i have some money i wana get a cell, i'm just too picky!
[10:59] <dooglus> ToMaK: they're all the same quality
[10:59] <wiseleo> <- "slightly" biased...
[10:59] <sirbijan> wiseleo: ;)
[10:59] <ToMaK> dooglus - ooo icic
[10:59] <dooglus> ToMaK: since they're the same thing, just with different initial package lists
[10:59] <buttercups> Evanlec, not sure about saving them though for later
[10:59] <wiseleo> sirbij - they are the best... I have ssh on mine :)
[10:59] <Slart> ToMaK: ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses KDE, xubuntu uses xfce.. they look different.. behave a little different and xfce differs by being a little lighter on system resources
[11:00] <Evanlec> buttercups, yea....
[11:00] <dooglus> ToMaK: ubuntu can use xfce or kde, kubuntu can use gnome or xfce, etc.
[11:00] <Slart> ToMaK: and by uses I mean, it uses by default.. you can still run KDE on ubuntu if you want to
[11:00] <dooglus> ToMaK: I'm currently running xfce in ubuntu, for instance
[11:00] <wiseleo> sirbij - but full disclosure... I work with Palm on promoting WM6 and with Microsoft's Windows Mobile team as a presenter... as I said "slightly" biased.
[11:00] <ToMaK> owh
[11:01] <Evanlec> buttercups, think i may be on to something: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/GNOME.html
[11:01] <dooglus> ToMaK: you can install all 3 at once if you like, and have a choice of which desktop environment to run each time you log in
[11:01] <ToMaK> what is a KDE and XFCE(i'm still a noob)
[11:01] <ghost_> Hey, trying to get my resolution to 1440x900 but keeps dropping back to 800x600, anyone got any ideas?
[11:02] <dooglus> ToMaK: KDE and XFCE and GNOME are three different desktop environments
[11:02] <wiseleo> Tomak - it really doesn't matter for you at this stage yet.
[11:02] <wiseleo> Learn the system, then look into customizing it. Far less headaches
[11:02] <ToMaK> dooglus, wiseleo - oooo....icic....thx guyz for the tips
[11:02] <ponte> hello, i have problem with installation fluxbuntu 7.10, i've download image and burn cd with k3b but when i boot computer it hasn't started from cd. I remember to change boot sequance in bios, so it must be sth diffrent. Have You got any idea?
[11:03] <Slart> ToMaK: why not download and burn the 3 live CD's for the different distros.. then you can try them out and see how they behave and which you like
[11:03] <wiseleo> ponte - test the CD image in vmware. If you can boot from it in VM, then it's computer-specific problem
[11:04] <ToMaK> slart - i try download the kubuntu and xubuntu
[11:04] <ToMaK> after i install my ubuntu it messup my bios now it can't detec my cdrom
[11:04] <dooglus> ToMaK: don't worry about it too much - any program with run in any desktop environment
[11:04] <ToMaK> dooglus - OK
[11:04] <Evanlec> there is no way that ubuntu could have messed up your BIOS
[11:04] <dooglus> ToMaK: kubuntu and xubuntu will have the same problem almost certainly
[11:04] <wiseleo> Coincidence. We don't mess with BIOS
[11:04] <Slart> ToMaK: ubuntu ate your bios?? never heard of that before.. is it even possible??
[11:04] <greencookie> how do I suspend from cli?
[11:05] <Slart> greencookie: perhaps "shutdown" with some sleepy, suspendy parameter? just a guess
[11:05] <ToMaK> i don't know
[11:05] <wiseleo> So, who else uses dapper :)
[11:05] <ToMaK> i'm using fetsy
[11:05] <GuHHH> hey, about mail listing services... whats the most simple to configure, mailman or majordomo?
[11:06] <wiseleo> guhh - apt-get install mailman - try that ;-)
[11:06] <Evanlec> greencookie, dont ask me how i pulled this so fast, but i had just seen it:    /usr/sbin/pmi action suspend
[11:06] <Evanlec> greencookie, might need a sudo
[11:07] <ToMaK> wich one got better effect Feisty Fawn or Gutsy Gibbon or Dapper Drake?
[11:07] <Evanlec> ToMaK, gutsy
[11:07] <wiseleo> Tomak - define "effect"
[11:08] <wiseleo> Visuals? Always the latest distribution
[11:08] <nucco> I can't believe no one has an x1k series ati card in here
[11:08] <Evanlec> think he means desktop effects, compiz
[11:08] <tarelerulz> I don't know if it is just be ,but the ubuntu irc server are down a lot and I can't get on for seem like days at a time
[11:08] <ToMaK> wiseleo - hemmm...maby the texture
[11:08] <wiseleo> nucco - nope, just an old 9600aiw
[11:08] <joe_> i had a x1300 at work that wouldnt boot ubuntu
[11:08] <Evanlec> tarelerulz, its just you...i never seen them down
[11:08] <Nom-> Howdy... I've got fakeraid running on my drive, and the system is running extremely slow while transferring files around.  Even Windows Vista is able to maintain responsiveness under similar conditions, so is there some settings I can play with to improve the system load?
[11:08] <nucco> wiseleo: I've got an x1600, no dri. was working with fresh install
[11:09] <ToMaK> last night i try to use compiz effect i messup my cube effect...-.-'
[11:09] <greencookie> joe_: I have x1300 that I just CANT get to run right. are you in a similar problem?
[11:09] <tarelerulz> Evanlec, What could I be doing to make it so I could not get on Ubuntu's irc servers?
[11:09] <icanic> can someone help me with the compiz rain effect?
[11:09] <wiseleo> nom- by default, drives are in write-through mode. Write-back cache improves performance
[11:10] <Nom-> wiseleo: Is there a guide somewhere I can find instructions on how to set that up ?
[11:10] <ToMaK> wiseleo - what is the diffrencs of XP and ubuntu????beside the ubuntu effect?
[11:10] <wiseleo> Nom- don't know, I'll be looking for it
[11:11] <Evanlec> tarelerulz, hard to say, check firewalls, ports open, proxies (irc dont like open proxies), try changing the port u connecting to to 8001, check for things like peerguardian, check basic connectivity (dns, ping, etc)
[11:11] <wiseleo> Tomak - uh... you really don't want to ask me that question (I know Windows too well)... short answer - nothing in common
[11:11] <Nom-> Also, i've just noticed with SLI turned on that i'm getting a flickering when switching between virtual desktops... it only seems to happen on terminal screens (so far)
[11:11] <tarelerulz> Evanlec,  thanks .
[11:11] <Nom-> Any ideas on that one? :)
[11:12] <ToMaK> wiseleo - hahahaha....
[11:12] <Evanlec> tarelerulz, of course, try different irc clients too
[11:12] <Gin> hi
[11:12] <wiseleo> Tomak - seriously. I am a Microsoft MVP nominee... lol
[11:12] <Gin> when using a smaller monitor, my ubuntu system feels faster, why is that?
[11:12] <alceste> hi
[11:12] <wiseleo> Gin - resolution is different.
[11:12] <ToMaK> wiseleo - LOL....-.-'...OMG(i'm shocker)
[11:12] <ToMaK> shock*
[11:13] <tarelerulz> I use pidgin for irc and yahoo so maybe that is it
[11:13] <alceste> quick question: does ubuntu SPARC server edition support sparc32 ?
[11:13] <Gin> wiseleo, what does resolution have to do with performance
[11:13] <nucco> Gin: maybe your display card is not so fast
[11:13] <bullgard4> !envy/lastlog bullgard4
[11:13] <wiseleo> Gin - X performance? Screen redraws happen faster at lower resolution in suboptimal configuration
[11:14] <Gin> I have to say that I got an onboard inte video card
[11:14] <ToMaK> hey thanks guyz for helping me
[11:14] <ToMaK> gtg now
[11:14] <nucco> Gin: if you're using the right drivers, performance difference shouldn't be noticeable
[11:14] <nucco> Gin: btw, what resolution is the bigger monitor?
[11:14] <wiseleo> Gin - using an optimized X server for your card will make that difference go away...
[11:14] <ToMaK> maybe i will use my laptop onlu for ubuntu...HAHAHAHAHAHA
[11:15] <bullgard4> What are the properties of the 'safe graphics mode' which you can choose as a menu option and operating mode of the Ubuntu desktop CD?
[11:15] <mavi-> Gin: happens to me to, its just they way it works, with more pixels to draw it takes more time to calculate them
[11:15] <tarelerulz> I was having problems with  adobe flash player and amarok not use my usb sound ,but I set the usb sound card as my default sound card ,but when I use windows media player with Wine it uses my other sound card any ideas how to change that
[11:15] <Gin> it is 1280x1024 17" lcd monitor
[11:16] <Evanlec> buttercups, figure anythin out? u know what a gtkRC script is?
[11:16] <Ogre-Eater> Is there a fix for the trackerd service from consuming large amounts of memory on an AMD64 install
[11:16] <wiseleo> Install optimized X drivers and watch night and day performance difference
[11:16] <Evanlec> Ogre-Eater, yea, kill it
[11:16] <Gin> wiseleo, what do u mean optimized X server driver?
[11:16] <Ogre-Eater> Evanlec, Yeah thats what Im doing at the moment + disabling indexing. Other than searching should it cause any problems though?
[11:17] <Gin> how can I get it?
[11:17] <Evanlec> Ogre-Eater, none whatsoever, it is only for the deskbar search applet
[11:17] <wiseleo> Gin - look at documentation that has to do with optimizing Xorg perforamnce
[11:17] <buttercups> Evanlec, no, don't think devilspie can either, I'm out of ideas
[11:17] <wiseleo> Gin - I don't know ubuntu-specific steps
[11:17] <Ogre-Eater> Evanlec, thank you I dont use search anyway :D
[11:17] <Evanlec> buttercups, well, i know it can be done, did u see that link i sent u?
[11:17] <krisbo9000> hey, how do i find out where my azuereus is installed
[11:17] <wiseleo> run 'which azureus'
[11:18] <Evanlec> Ogre-Eater, yea, i was hoping more from it...i was dissapointed with it, i only use locate on the cli now
[11:18] <stefano> i have copied a lot of files (about 100GiB), now i have to chown them all. how do i chown recursively?
[11:18] <slatka_gv> @CHAT.COM
[11:18] <Ogre-Eater> Evanlec, lol
[11:18] <wiseleo> chown -R
[11:18] <slatka_gv> ABE CISH BON
[11:18] <Ogre-Eater> Evanlec, A fix is comitted though and it seems to be on the high list
[11:18] <krisbo9000> thx
[11:18] <Evanlec> Ogre-Eater, and of course the ol' nautilus search, which kinda blows
[11:18] <slatka_gv> MIR SE VJEN
[11:18] <slatka_gv> UNE JOM ELMEDINI
[11:18] <stefano> i dont want to break anything, but i'll try thx wiseleo
[11:18] <kritzstapf> hi, everytime i boot my pc, gnome fails loading some settings and theres a error message and the windowcontents look like those in windows 95 :P, after restarting gdm one or two times it works fine, whats wrong?
[11:18] <slatka_gv> KURSE KY OSHT LIRIMI
[11:19] <wiseleo> krisbo - that assumes your azureus is in your search path, which it likely will be
[11:19] <buttercups> Evanlec, yes, did not see anything that caught my eye.  My brother would know, I'll bug him later =)
[11:19] <Evanlec> Ogre-Eater, actually of all the lameness of vista, one thing i really liked about it was its search feature, it was pretty slick and would pull up just about anything, not just filenames
[11:19] <greencookie> Evanlec: could you tell me the command to start gmd?:)
[11:19] <stefano> okay, the system seem quite busy. hope it works
[11:19] <sidlet> G'night greencookie, Evanlec
[11:19] <wiseleo> stefano I am assuming this is for web? chown -R www-group:www-group ./*
[11:19] <Evanlec> buttercups, alright, that'd be awesome, if u get any leads drop me a line: evanlec@gmail
[11:19] <Evanlec> sidlet, nite
[11:19] <greencookie> sidlet: goodnight:) cya later.
[11:20] <Evanlec> greencookie, /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:20] <theelbermungster> hi, i'm new to ubuntu, and i have a few questions.
[11:20] <mollek> hi
[11:20] <ecox> hi
[11:20] <Ogre-Eater> theelbermungster, Ask them :D
[11:20] <ecox> :P
[11:20] <stefano> wiseleo: not it is for a new server i just set up in my local network. i have a user called stefano and a bunch of files and folders all in the directory 'unsorted'. i want all of them to belong to 'stefano' i did this: 'sudo chown -R stefano unsorted/' is this right?
[11:21] <greencookie> Evanlec: also can you tell me how to shut down tty7?
[11:21] <wiseleo> stefano - yeah, you won't hurt anything
[11:21] <theelbermungster> well, first i am a very up to date person on software.
[11:21] <wiseleo> theelber - ask your question please.
[11:21] <greencookie> Evanlec: nvm:) i got gdm on tty9
[11:21] <theelbermungster> and i can't update my packages.
[11:22] <theelbermungster> how can you update them?
[11:22] <Evanlec> greencookie, yea..usually just type exit to log out of a tty
[11:22] <krisbo9000> how do i give permission to write to one of my harddrives
[11:22] <Merijn> firestarter keeps closing for no apparent reason, is there a way to find out what's wrong with it?
[11:23] <Evanlec> krisbo9000, check if its hardware or software locked first, try writing to it with sudo
[11:23] <Ogre-Eater> theelbermungster, I think sudo apt-get update should try to update . Unless you havent told us about an error you get when you do that
[11:23] <krisbo9000> ok
[11:23] <stefano> wiseleo: thank you very much, worked perfectly. now i'll set up ftp and such.. bye
[11:23] <krisbo9000> once i work out how to do that as well i will ...
[11:23] <dibbalamin> hi every one
[11:23] <lirim> hello
[11:24] <Mortice> Ogre-Eater: apt-get update only updates the list of available packages. apt-get upgrade actually 'updates'(upgrades) your packages.
[11:24] <theelbermungster> oh, and another thing, i'm not keen on terminal commands either.
[11:24] <lirim> hllo
[11:24] <krisbo9000> i really just want to have permission to do anything -it is after all, my computer
[11:24] <Ogre-Eater> Mortice, woops that too =x
[11:24] <USHTARI_GV> AMI STO PRAJS
[11:24] <USHTARI_GV> NE
[11:24] <Evanlec> theelbermungster, well, start learning them, it'll really help
[11:24] <gordonjcp> krisbo9000: that's a fairly bad idea
[11:24] <lirim> hello
[11:24] <USHTARI_GV>  ODAM BO WC
[11:24] <Mortice> theelbermungster: assuming you're running gnome (ubuntu standard), a tray icon will tell you if there are available updates. You can install them from there.
[11:24] <theelbermungster> ok.
[11:25] <krisbo9000> im just trying to save a file to my harddrive
[11:25] <USHTARI_GV> OK
[11:25] <USHTARI_GV> ?
[11:25] <USHTARI_GV> DA
[11:25] <lirim> hello
[11:25] <USHTARI_GV> TI KAKO SE VIKAS
[11:25] <wiseleo> kris -  missed your question
[11:25] <lirim> wats ap
[11:25] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[11:25] <gordonjcp> krisbo9000: generally by the time you're proficient enough to know *why* it's a bad idea to have full access to everything all the time, you're skilled enough to get away with having full access to everything all the time
[11:25] <gordonjcp> krisbo9000: now, what exactly are you trying to do?
[11:25] <USHTARI_GV> LALALL
[11:25] <krisbo9000> wiseleo, i'm trying to write files to my hard-drive sdb1.
[11:26] <USHTARI_GV> O LIRIM
[11:26] <raddy> My mouse stops working after resuming from suspend
[11:26] <theelbermungster> another problem is, how can i kill a service?
[11:26] <Gary> USHTARI_GV, stop that
[11:26] <raddy> can anybody help?
[11:26] <krisbo9000> i dont permission however
[11:26] <Evanlec> gordonjcp, thats a good little anecdote on security
[11:26] <wiseleo> krisbo - so create a directory and give yourself permissions
[11:26] <gordonjcp> Evanlec: born of experience, I'm afraid
[11:26] <Evanlec> gordonjcp, :)
[11:27] <lirim> hi
[11:27] <lirim> hi
[11:27] <krisbo9000> a new directory somewhere else?
[11:27] <wiseleo> Windows' "I'll let you mess me up" attitude costs my clients over $2000/mo... thankfully Unix is more sane
[11:27] <gordonjcp> Evanlec: "hey look, I can just run as root!  Oh bum, what happened there?"
[11:27] <Evanlec> gordonjcp, u wouldnt know how to save a gnome/xsession permanently (for later use) would u?
[11:27] <USHTARI_GV> MA HONKSH KARIN
[11:27] <lirim> zdravgiooooo
[11:27] <wiseleo> krisbo - why not...
[11:27] <USHTARI_GV> UNE JOM BOS
[11:27] <USHTARI_GV> UNE JOM
[11:27] <wiseleo> mkdir ~/sdb
[11:27] <gordonjcp> Evanlec: I think there's an explicit "Save session" thing in a menu
[11:27] <krisbo9000> because that is my storage drive - i dont have room fomr stuff anywhere else
[11:27] <USHTARI_GV> UNE JOM  PI MRSS
[11:27] <USHTARI_GV> QA
[11:27] <wiseleo> mount /dev/sdb1 ~/sdb
[11:27] <gordonjcp> krisbo9000: what kind of drive is it?
[11:28] <gordonjcp> krisbo9000: like, what filesystem?
[11:28] <Evanlec> gordonjcp, yea but all that does is save it for the next logon, i wanna be able to open that session anytime i want
[11:28] <wiseleo> You can expand your file system capacity nearly infinitely transparently
[11:28] <krisbo9000> its an external sata 500gb drive, formatted ext3
[11:28] <raddy> can anybody help me on thatttttt
[11:28] <gordonjcp> Evanlec: hm, good question
[11:28] <gordonjcp> Evanlec: I must admit that while I admire the problem, I don't really have a solution
[11:28] <Evanlec> gordonjcp, like rite now i have all the apps/windows/files/websites/etc. layed out for doing web development...i'd like to save this, for when i wanna do web dev again
[11:29] <gordonjcp> Evanlec: yeah
[11:29] <Evanlec> gordonjcp, would be such a timesaver
[11:29] <gordonjcp> Evanlec: suggest it to a dev...
[11:30] <Evanlec> gordonjcp, aww it can't be that hard
[11:30] <gordonjcp> Evanlec: presumably not
[11:30] <Evanlec> gordonjcp, there are xsession files stored somewhere, just not sure where
[11:30] <gordonjcp> Evanlec: figure out what saves the session
[11:30] <gordonjcp> Evanlec: find . | grep xsession ?
[11:30] <carl_> why windowmaker has no upgrade, :(, it is the best :(
[11:30] <prologic> hey all, I have compiz running with compiz --replace but I can't seem to get it to do anything - none of the hotkeys work and no compiz plugin or feature seems to be working (I do have everything installed and there are no visible errors)
[11:30] <wiseleo> carl - you are welcome to work on it ;-)
[11:30] <Evanlec> gordonjcp, whats the . for
[11:31] <gordonjcp> "this directory"
[11:31] <wiseleo> . - current directory
[11:31] <Big-E> Have you managed your advanced desktop effects settings, prologic?
[11:31] <crdlb> prologic: installed how?
[11:31] <gordonjcp> Evanlec: assumes you're somewhere sensible for starting to look for xsession files
[11:31] <Evanlec> gordonjcp, oh, well i wanna seearch a little broader than that
[11:31] <Evanlec> gordonjcp, mm, sensible, yes ;p
[11:31] <gordonjcp> Evanlec: find will rattle through the directory and any subdirs
[11:32] <Evanlec> gordonjcp, yea
[11:32] <Evanlec> gordonjcp, how often does find update its database? and how does it compare with locate?
[11:33] <wiseleo> actually you want find -name :)
[11:33] <rubydiamond_> what is best gui svn client for ubuntu
[11:33] <crdlb> find doesn't use a database
[11:33] <nantax> can i play divx movies in xubuntu?
[11:33] <rubydiamond_> and also what is best gui mysql client for ubuntu
[11:33] <rubydiamond_> nantax: ofcourse
[11:34] <wiseleo> ruby - web apps tend to be most advanced
[11:34] <rubydiamond_> gordonjcp: do u know any mysql and svn gui client for ubuntu
[11:34] <rubydiamond_> and which is best
[11:34]  * Big-E likes when people ask questions and you help them, then they leave.
[11:35] <nantax> lol
[11:35] <wiseleo> LOL...
[11:35] <nantax> how do i go about installing the divx codec?
[11:35] <crdlb> Big-E: lovely indeed
[11:35] <wiseleo> There are what... maybe 10 clients?
[11:35] <nantax> i just switched to xubuntu the other day
[11:35] <Evanlec> wiseleo, find -name ?
[11:36] <Big-E> Sure is, crdlb.
[11:36] <ezquerro> hi to everybody
[11:36] <ezquerro> since couple days ago i'm having some problems with compiz
[11:36] <wiseleo> evan - yeah... works better "find . -name whatever*
[11:36] <ezquerro> the title bar disappear in all the windows
[11:37] <ezquerro> and i have to exit the session to restore them
[11:37] <ezquerro> it's a little annoying
[11:37] <ezquerro> anyone knows why is this happening and if there's a solution?
[11:38] <ezquerro> i'm using gutsy
[11:38] <Jimmytakeover> Hi, i am getting this error message saying 'hdd is not ready for command'.
[11:38] <Jimmytakeover> should I use hdparm to reset the drive?
[11:38] <Evanlec> ezquerro, it hapens to everyone, just do somethin like emerald --replace, or metacity --replace
[11:39] <Jimmytakeover> and funnily enough, this happens everytime i use k3b to create a disc image.
[11:39] <Evanlec> its quite literally the MOST common problem in this channel
[11:39] <crdlb> ezquerro: you *never* get titlebars in compiz now?
[11:39] <wiseleo> One more reason why I don't install GUI :)
[11:39] <ezquerro> crdlb, i get the titlebars, but sometimes they disapear
[11:39] <dreamkeeper> hi there...is some1 here that actually knows ubuntu and he has 3 min to help me on something plz?
[11:39] <benpicco> Hi, when i plug in my usb stick, i get an message saying "mount refused" - only whan i mount it manually using sudo it works - but then there are right issues+
[11:39] <Big-E> GUI's are pretty, and just like pretty girls, they are fun to look at - wiseleo. ;)
[11:40] <crdlb> ezquerro: are you using emerald?
[11:40] <bajusm> nnnmu
[11:40] <bajusm> kengur
[11:40] <ezquerro> crdlb, yes
[11:40] <Evanlec> wiseleo, how does it work better than find . | grep ?
[11:40] <bajusm> ok
[11:40] <crdlb> ezquerro: emerald is very buggy,  so it crashes sometimes
[11:40] <wiseleo> Big-e - yeah I know I just get annoyed at linux guis. I just answer "server"
[11:40] <benpicco> should i past the last lines of dmesg output?
[11:40] <whyking_> how can I install vmware server? Its not in automatix
[11:40] <wiseleo> Evan - find is a very flexible command on its own. No grep necessary
[11:41] <wiseleo> whyking - 32bit or 64bit?
[11:41] <Big-E> wiseleo - True, when I get back to my house (currently else where playing rugby) I plan on setting up some boxes and running ubuntu server with no GUI and really learn some linux. ^^
[11:41] <stefano> i'm behind a NAT Firewall. how can i retrieve my outside ip-adress without flooding anyones server? (e.g. via google.com)
[11:41] <ezquerro> crdlb, is there any window decorator more stable and nice?
[11:41] <wiseleo> stefano - whatismyip.com
[11:41] <Evanlec> wiseleo, oh i c
[11:42] <zaharazod> whois yourself?
[11:42] <Evanlec> whyking_, get it from their website
[11:42] <wiseleo> trying gforge on yet another distro.. Dapper this time lol
[11:42] <Big-E> stefano - http://whatismyip.com/
[11:42] <crdlb> ezquerro: the default gtk-window-decorator is extremely stable
[11:42] <Evanlec> whyking_, or getdeb.org
[11:42] <Big-E> Opps, already mentioned.
[11:42] <ezquerro> crdlb, metacity?
[11:42] <Evanlec> whyking_, or perhaps apt-get
[11:42] <greencookie> isnt there a way I can keep different wallpapers for different desktops? I'm using Gnome.
[11:43] <crdlb> ezquerro: it uses your metacity theme, but it isn't metacity
[11:43] <benpicco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44718/
[11:43] <stefano> wiseleo: i dont want to get a file, cut it here and there and then save it. besides those sites dont like it when you retrieve your ip continously. isnt there a more clean way where i can use somebodys server who has way enough bandwith like google?
[11:43] <stefano> oh i should say i want to make it a cronjob
[11:43] <ezquerro> crdlb, thanks a lot
[11:43] <ezquerro> i'll remove emerald
[11:44] <crdlb> ezquerro: if you want to use it, then uninstall emerald
[11:44] <Evanlec> greencookie, actually if there is a way, i think its much more than simple
[11:44] <wiseleo> stefano - hmm you can always abuse google analytics
[11:44] <Big-E> stefano - use something like dyndns.com
[11:45] <wiseleo> it's dyndns.org
[11:45] <stefano> wiseleo: if i type traceroute www.google.com it tells me my ip in the fifth like, i want to use that,  it doesnt generate much traffic i suppose and neither google nor my provider will complain
[11:45] <wiseleo> stefano ah, you want your first upstream? Just use dyndns and forget it
[11:45] <stefano> Big-E, i dont want a dynamic dns, i just want my server to know its ip.
[11:46] <Big-E> wiseleo - dyndns.org redirects to dyndns.com ;)
[11:46] <wiseleo> good :)
[11:46] <stefano> there has to be a way to cut the output of traceroute www.google.com down to just the ip, in a nice and clean way
[11:47] <Big-E> stefano - check http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/556/12.html#topic7
[11:47] <Evanlec> can anyone suggest a relatively easy command line avi to dvd converter?
[11:48] <gdubzguru> i've spent the evening installing and configuring ubuntu after a friend turned me onto this. screw ms vista. thx so much for this os
[11:49] <stefano> Big-E, that looks quite complicated :(
[11:49] <Evanlec> gdubzguru, welcome to the club ;)
[11:49] <Big-E> Um, well set up your nat as a DMZ.
[11:49] <blenbb> is there a repository with virtualbox in it?
[11:49] <stefano> that will probably not work with my router i suppose
[11:49] <benpicco> is there some way to tell the ntp client to use a proxy?
[11:50] <stefano> i could grep the ip adress from the output of tracerout with a regular expression, coudnt i?
[11:50] <Evanlec> blenbb, should be on universe
[11:50] <Evanlec> blenbb, or grab the deb from vbox website
[11:51] <kuta> is there a adobe illustrator for ubuntu? or equivalent
[11:51] <mel> hi, how to find which version libtorrent i have
[11:51] <Evanlec> kuta, inkscape!
[11:51] <glassface> hi! where can I get all 3rd party codecs for totem?
[11:51] <ikonia> mel: dpkg -l- | grep libtorrent
[11:51] <Mortice> !RestrictedFormats | glassface
[11:51] <ubotu> glassface: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:52] <Evanlec> !media | glassface
[11:52] <ubotu> glassface: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[11:52] <Traveler4> helo ppl
[11:52] <glassface> thanks.
[11:52] <Traveler4> hi
[11:52] <mel> ikonia, that doesnt seem to work :-S
[11:53] <ikonia> mel: show me what it says
[11:53] <mel> dpkg: unknown option --
[11:53] <mel> etc etc
[11:53] <mel> so i delete 1 -
[11:53] <mel> and now it does nothing
[11:53] <ikonia> mel: dpkg -l
[11:53] <mel> yah i figure that :P
[11:53] <mel> it just goes to new line
[11:53] <stefano> wiseleo, Big-E: i will just write a little php script and put it on my co-location server. then i'll get the output with wget. that ought to work
[11:54] <mel> bash prompt
[11:54] <ikonia> mel is libtorrent a package or a libvary
[11:54] <ikonia> library
[11:54] <benpicco> can someone help me with an usb device issue?
[11:54] <greencookie> Evanlec: lol so i can't have different wallpapers for the different desktops on gnome?:) that sucks, kde lets u do that rite?
[11:54] <ikonia> benpicco: maybe if you tell us the issue
[11:54] <benpicco> when i plug it inm, i get "mount refused"
[11:54] <mel> ikonia, i think library \
[11:54] <Big-E> Alright, if I think of anything easier ill let ya know.
[11:54] <Big-E> I am usually floating around here.
[11:54] <greencookie> benpicco: is it an ipod?
[11:54] <ikonia> mel: ok - so you need to find tha pcakge name its contained in or just ls -la on the library and look atht eversion
[11:55] <benpicco> no, a normal usb sd card reader - dmesg tells me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44718/
[11:55] <ikonia> benpicco: whats the problem ?
[11:55] <benpicco> greencookie, i can mount it using sudo manually, but then only root has acces to it
[11:56] <mel> ook ikonia thanks
[11:56] <benpicco> ikonia, it's not mounted by HAL
[11:56]  * greencookie scratches his head while looking at Evanlec .
[11:56] <Evanlec> greencookie, im not if any of them do....i could be wrong tho
[11:56] <ikonia> benpicco yes, because of the "usefree" option
[11:56] <greencookie> Man I still have to figure out how to access weblinks from irssi tty
[11:56] <benpicco> ikonia, how got this option there?/how to disable it?
[11:56] <ikonia> benpicco:  you need to change the hal rules/options for that device, but i've not got an ubuntu box to hand to check the default
[11:56] <Evanlec> weblinks?
[11:57] <Evanlec> oh u mean urls?
[11:57] <ikonia> benpicco: it will be somehing like /etc/hal.d/hal.conf
[11:57] <greencookie> Evanlec: yep.
[11:57] <Evanlec> easiest way i think is install gpm and use the mousey ;)
[11:58] <Myrtti> greencookie: where are you running irssi in
[11:58] <Myrtti> greencookie: vty or a terminal app?
[11:58] <benpicco> ikonia, there is a /etc/hal/fdi
[11:58] <ikonia> benpicco don't know fdi ?
[11:58] <greencookie> Myrtti: tty
[11:59] <Myrtti> urgh :-(
[11:59] <greencookie> Myrtti: ive heard VC (virtual console) tty(tele tyle) whats vty:) hehe
[11:59] <Mortice> greencookie: the openurl plugin should work. It uses w3m to open pages by default, iirc.
[11:59] <greencookie> Myrtti: im reading the man tho:)
[12:00] <greencookie> Mortice: erm. I'm just using irssi, so isnt it built in?
[12:00] <Mortice> greencookie: nope.
[12:00] <Mortice> greencookie: at least, not as far as i know
[12:00] <Evanlec> can anyone suggest a relatively easy command line avi to dvd converter?
[12:00] <Esteth> Hey all. Every time i open nautilus, it crashes. I then force-quit it, but it just opens again and isn't crashed. But once i start using it, it crashes again. Any idea what's wrong, and how to downgrade nautilus if possible?
[12:00] <greencookie> Mortice: ok.
[12:00] <greencookie> Evanlec: lol cli FTW!
[12:00] <Evanlec> greencookie, heh ;p
[12:00] <Evanlec> greencookie, yea!
[12:01] <wiseleo> it's possible to downgrade
[12:01] <greencookie> brb
[12:02] <Ogre-Eater> I can play wma files one Ubuntu if I wanted by using installing the w64codecs correct?
[12:02] <Ogre-Eater> on*
[12:02] <Myrtti> 64codecs?
[12:02] <soundray> Esteth: I suspect that your nautilus is okay on a system level, and that the problem is in your user configuration. You could run nautilus as another user to test if that's true.
[12:03] <kaola> 64codecs??
[12:03] <ipang> hl
[12:03] <Evanlec> 64codecs?
[12:03] <Ogre-Eater> =S I thought i saw it called somethign like that somewhere
[12:04] <Evanlec> lol
[12:04] <Evanlec> yea u'll be all set
[12:04] <Esteth> soundray: You appear to be right
[12:04] <greencookie> 128codecs?
[12:05] <Ogre-Eater> Im sorry but there is a w64codec right?
[12:05] <ricanelite> when i take out songs from my ipod using the Music Player and I click on my ipod icon on my desktop the songs are still there
[12:05] <Evanlec> Ogre-Eater, theres lots of 64 codecs
[12:05] <greencookie> O.k I guess irssi does not have built in support to use links.
[12:05]  * greencookie looks for a workaround.
[12:05] <wiseleo> here we go again... I am tempted to go visit gforge, llc witha  shotgun tomorrow
[12:05] <Mortice> greencookie: openurl is very good.
[12:05] <Evanlec> greencookie, use the mousey
[12:05] <Meskit> tplop
[12:05] <greencookie> Mortice: does it work with irssi?
[12:06] <RoyK> I just installed this old laptop with an 802.11g pcmcia card, and networking works, for a while, but after starting ubuntu update, it downloads for 20-30 seconds and so on and then networking dies until I reboot. a ping running in the background works until this happens, then pauses, and then fails with 'sendmsg: No buffer space available'. Same happens with two different cards (d-link and CNet). Any ideas what might cause this?
[12:06] <soundray> Esteth: have you laboriously customized your nautilus?
[12:06] <Mortice> greencookie: it's an irssi plugin, so yea :)
[12:06] <greencookie> Evanlec: lol, my mousie's been MIA for about 8 hours now.
[12:06] <Evanlec> greencookie, oo
[12:06] <Mortice> greencookie: http://irssi.org/scripts/scripts/openurl.pl
[12:06] <greencookie> Mortice: oh lol, didnt know. so apt-get install openurl?
[12:06] <greencookie> Mortice: sad part is i can only gawk at that url from my tty1
[12:06] <greencookie> lol
[12:06] <Mortice> greencookie: download that file into $HOME/.irssi/scripts/autorun
[12:06] <wiseleo> aptitude is a neat little tool
[12:06] <Esteth> soundray: Not as far as i know. I upgraded from feisty to gutsy, but the problem appeared a few weeks after. If it helps, my emblems are really really small, but that's not something i set myself.
[12:07] <greencookie> mortice ok hold on
[12:07] <Pici> greencookie: no, if you have the irssi package installed, its already in /usr/share/irssi/scripts/ probably.
[12:07] <Mortice> pici: good point, it probably is
[12:07] <MarcoPau> gutsy is automatically finding my nikon digital camera but I can't find where it's mounted. can anybody help^
[12:07] <MarcoPau> ?
[12:08] <soundray> Esteth: if you don't mind resetting your nautilus configurations, log out, choose a failsafe terminal session, log in and do 'rm -r ~/.nautilus .gconf/apps/nautilus', then log out and test within a normal session.
[12:08] <Evanlec> greencookie, http://shortify.com/SD4
[12:09] <Evanlec> greencookie, i shortiffied it...but a little too late
[12:09] <soundray> Esteth: correction
[12:09] <soundray> Esteth: 'rm -rf ~/.nautilus ~/.gconf/apps/nautilus' (doesn't actually matter unless you cd away from your home directory)
[12:10] <Esteth> soundray: Ok, thanks. I have to reboot to get failsafe terminal?
[12:10] <greencookie> Evanlec: you just love shortifying dont ya:)
[12:10] <Evanlec> greencookie, its pretty nifty
[12:11] <greencookie> Evanlec: it says firefox is already running, but I dont see it. Its invisible. is there a way I can kill something that I cannot see?
[12:11] <greencookie> Pici: so openurl should already be working rite? how do i goto a link from irssi?
[12:11] <Evanlec> greencookie, yes my son, you must feel your enemy with your fingertips, not with your eyes
[12:11] <Mortice> greencookie: you need to load it first with /script load
[12:11] <anzan> Evanlec pkill firefox
[12:11] <Evanlec> shh
[12:12] <greencookie> brb
[12:12] <Mortice> greencookie: and once that's done, every time someone posts a url, openurl will echo "Openurl (a number)" to the screen
[12:12] <Evanlec> greencookie, then u must give the ultimate blow kill -9 firefox !
[12:12] <imduffy> how do i dual boot windows xp and ubuntu using  NTLDR
[12:12] <nikolam> hello
[12:12] <Mortice> greencookie: then you just type /openurl (that number) to open the link
[12:12] <wiseleo> For a good time as root... "kill -1"
[12:12] <nikolam> Does anyone use UDF CDRW or DVDRW disks?
[12:12] <wiseleo> !grub
[12:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:12] <soundray> Esteth: no, just log out and choose it from the session options at the login window
[12:12] <soundray> MarcoPau: a 'mount', entered in a terminal by itself, should tell you. Look at the last line.
[12:12] <soundray> MarcoPau: if it's not mounted, then gutsy communicates with your camera via a special protocol. PPTP I think it's called.
[12:13] <chimaera> hello, is there a way to prevent gdm from restarzing after X crashes?
[12:13] <MarcoPau> soundray: how can I normally mount it?
[12:13] <MarcoPau> soundray: there's no record for it under mount
[12:14] <soundray> MarcoPau: you have to change a setting in your camera setup to enable USB mass storage support.
[12:14] <MarcoPau> soundray: dmesg says scsi6 when I connect it to the usb, but I don't know which device to mount
[12:14] <soundray> MarcoPau: not in Ubuntu
[12:14] <MarcoPau> alright
[12:15] <Evanlec> greencookie, hvin some issues with elinks, cant even get to my router config page, must be lacking cookies, or someting
[12:15] <soundray> imduffy: there are instructions on the web, but they are "inofficial". Why don't you want to use grub?
[12:15] <MarcoPau> soundray: it's already mass storage
[12:15] <ThcMan> can someone tell me what this error means when i try to make alsa-utils? http://rafb.net/p/aSyTRk29.html
  because i format my windows xp alot and its annoying having to install grub each time
[12:16] <soundray> MarcoPau: hm.  Run tail -f /var/log/syslog while you plug your camera. It might be more informative than dmesg
[12:16] <Evanlec> soundray, because hes a damn foo
[12:17] <soundray> Evanlec: please, that's unnecessary
[12:17] <Mortice> ThcMan: It means there's a mv command in the makefile which tries to move t-ja.gmo, but it can't find that file.
[12:17] <Evanlec> sory, it was a joke ;p
[12:17] <NeanT> what version of java should I install on Gutsy x64 cuz Azureus keeps crashing with IcedTea 1.7..
[12:17] <Evanlec> i think i need to get some rest
[12:17] <ThcMan> Mortice, that's a weird error for something as big as alsa innit? :(
[12:17] <soundray> imduffy: I haven't tried this, but have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208951
[12:17] <ThcMan> they ought to know better :x
[12:18] <imduffy> thanks <soundray>
[12:18] <Mortice> ThcMan: what version is it? development? Release?
[12:18] <edson> t
[12:18] <MarcoPau> soundray: says sdb, but with no number. mount /dev/sdb /media/camera won't work
[12:18] <ThcMan> Mortice, Stable Release 1.0.15
[12:18] <MarcoPau> ehm... mount /dev/sdb1 I meant
[12:19] <Mortice> ThcMan: interesting. You haven't messed with the source directories at all?
[12:19] <soundray> MarcoPau: what does 'mount | grep sdb1' say?
[12:19] <MarcoPau> soundray: there's nothing like that
[12:20] <meezfoghi> hi alll
[12:20] <MarcoPau> soundray: not even with sbd only
[12:20] <soundray> MarcoPau: I mean enter that in the terminal and tell me what the output is
[12:20] <ThcMan> Mortice, i'm following http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-via82xx#Quick_installation ; the alsa-driver and alsa-lib parts worked fine.
[12:20] <MarcoPau> soundray: no output, that's what I meant
[12:20] <kuta> any macromedia flash equivalent?
 yeah i did all that earlyer but when i select to boot into ubuntu it just turns to a black screen with grub on it and then reboots my computer
[12:20] <meezfoghi> how to open/extract file .r00
[12:20] <MarcoPau> soundray: with either sdb1 or sdb
[12:20] <ThcMan> Mortice, alsa-utils complained of no ncurses when i first tried it, so i installed some curses libs, and now i get my current problem
[12:20] <meezfoghi> anyone please
[12:21] <ThcMan> (this is a pretty fresh install of Ubuntu Feisty)
[12:21] <soundray> !rar | meezfoghi
[12:21] <ubotu> meezfoghi: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:21] <daedric> rarsoft?
[12:21] <ThcMan> as opposed to Rare Soft?
[12:21] <ThcMan> :o
[12:21] <meezfoghi> thank
[12:22] <daedric> i could bet it was rarlabs
[12:22] <nikolam> !udf
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <Mortice> ThcMan: Sorry, I'm not sure what would cause that. You could try getting in touch with the alsa people or googling for that filename...
[12:22] <soundray> MarcoPau: that's unusual...
[12:22] <ThcMan> Mortice, cheers :x
[12:22] <Mortice> ThcMan: good luck!
[12:22] <ThcMan> i'll need it :p
[12:22] <sameer> hey guys
[12:22] <soundray> MarcoPau: do you have a card reader for your camera medium?
[12:23] <sameer> i m trying to change my mac address on gutsy
[12:23] <sameer> but i can do it mannually
[12:23] <greencookie> back!
[12:23] <greencookie> ok Mortice thanks for the tip.
[12:23] <sameer> but with /etc/network/interfaces
[12:23] <greencookie> Evanlec: I killed the fox!
[12:23] <greencookie> heh
[12:23] <sameer> i get error
[12:23] <sameer> so i cann't do it on reboot
[12:23] <sameer> :(
[12:23] <soundray> !enter | sameer
[12:23] <ubotu> sameer: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:24] <MarcoPau> soundray: no
[12:24] <sameer> ok  ok sorry
[12:24] <sameer> hwaddress ether 00:61:...... doesnt work with gutsy any know know why ?
[12:25] <October> please,End compile the kernel, not the start screen, boot black screen, directly into GDM, the other not, I would like to ask you how do?
[12:26] <soundray> MarcoPau: does /dev/sdb1 show up when you run 'sudo fdisk -l'?
[12:26] <MarcoPau> soundray: nope
[12:27] <soundray> MarcoPau: what's your /dev/sda -- hard disk?
[12:28] <greencookie> geez *nix is all bout permissions innit? i cant even drag and drop files around:)
[12:28] <Tomcat_> greencookie: If you don't have the perms, it's usually a good idea that you can't move them around. ;P
[12:28] <greencookie> sudo mv ~/Desktop/openurl.pl /usr/share/irssi/scripts/ ?? should that work?
[12:28] <Evanlec> greencookie, the fox?
[12:29] <Mortice> greencookie: stick it in your own irssi directory, which lives in $HOME/.irssi
[12:29] <greencookie> hehe Tomcat_ thats prolly true. Once upon a time in windoze I deleted a bunch of files that i shudnt have. and well...:)
[12:29] <Mortice> greencookie: the exact path it should go into is $HOME/.irssi/scripts/autorun
[12:29] <greencookie> Mortice: oh ok. i thought it was /usr/share/irssi/scripts/
[12:29] <Mortice> greencookie: and you may have to create the autorun directory
[12:29] <greencookie> Mortice: thanks
[12:30] <Mortice> greencookie: that directory is for shared scripts, so you can put it in there if you want
[12:30] <ThcMan> where would alsa's config file be?
[12:30] <greencookie> Evanlec: I killed the fox, elinks replaced it temporarily:)
[12:30] <Mortice> greencookie: but you need root access for that
[12:30] <greencookie> Mortice: I dont share my comp with anyone:) i am root:)
[12:30] <Mortice> greencookie: and it won't autorun when you start irssi if you do it that way.
[12:30] <greencookie> brb
[12:31] <Fish-Face> Hi all. I'm trying to use a CD Drive as a SATA drive under Ubuntu, using an IDE -> SATA adaptor. The adaptor seems to work; the drive is detected by the bios correctly. However, ubuntu doesn't create a device for it.
[12:32] <graham> hi
[12:32] <greencookie> back
[12:32] <Evanlec> greencookie, lol, wow
[12:33] <greencookie> :)
[12:33] <greencookie> lots of flights getting canceled, hence high call volumes:)
[12:33] <Fish-Face> I get "ata3: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)" in dmesg but still no device is created for the drive.
[12:34] <RoyK> I just installed this old laptop with an 802.11g pcmcia card, and networking works, for a while, but after starting ubuntu update, it downloads for 20-30 seconds and so on and then networking dies until I reboot. a ping running in the background works until this happens, then pauses, and then fails with 'sendmsg: No buffer space available'. Same happens with two different cards (d-link and CNet). Any ideas what might cause this?
[12:34] <bullgard4> What are the properties of the 'safe graphics mode' which you can choose as a menu option and operating mode of the Ubuntu desktop CD?
[12:34] <October> please,please,End compile the kernel, not the start screen, boot black screen, directly into GDM, the other not, I would like to ask you how do?
[12:34] <gidna> who has mathematica wolfram 6?
[12:34] <soundray> RoyK: no idea, but I've had a similar issue and it got a lot better after I disabled ipv6
[12:35] <soundray> !ipv6 | RoyK
[12:35] <ubotu> RoyK: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[12:36] <greencookie> oooh ooh. looks like openurl loaded. !
[12:37] <greencookie> wow, guess a lot of people decided to call it a night.
[12:38] <RoyK> soundray: thanks. trying....
[12:39] <theflyingfool> updates are evil...
[12:39] <theflyingfool> well they are good but they take way to long
[12:40] <greencookie> on dialup.
[12:40] <MarcoPau> soundray: sorry was afk. yes, sda is my hard disk
[12:40] <nucco> anybody know what password this printer configuration tool keeps asking me for?
[12:41] <djm62> excuse me, my friend has burned me the gutsy alternative CD and I'm trying to upgrade but the cdromupgrade script on the CD doesn't work (references a nonexistent directory)
[12:41] <gordonjcp> nucco: probably your normal password
[12:41] <gordonjcp> nucco: what exactly does it say?
[12:41] <nucco> gordonjcp: which i've typed over and over
[12:41] <djm62> I've never upgraded via CD before, what's supposed to happen?
[12:41] <IdleOne> nucco: tried leaving it blank?
[12:42] <nucco> gordonjcp: it says password for fanucci on localhost
[12:42] <RoyK> nucco: are you an admin?
[12:42] <greencookie> how do I not display quit/join messages in irssi?
[12:42] <nucco> gordonjcp: i'm trying to add a wondows-shared printer
[12:42] <nucco> yes, i'm admin
[12:42] <Mortice> greencookie: google for irssi levels. Be warned, it's pretty complicated
[12:42] <nucco> and i have created a samba login with the same name and password as my account
[12:42] <H-Town> what's the easiest way to format my harddrive and delete everything under ubuntu?
[12:43] <nucco> RoyK: i'm an admin
[12:43] <Mortice> greencookie: e.g. http://wouter.coekaerts.be/site/irssi/wclf
[12:43] <H-Town> i mean completely wipe clean my hard drive
[12:43] <nucco> IdleOne: yes, i left it blank, didn't work
[12:43] <soundray> MarcoPau: have you looked at the settings under System-Preferences-Removable drives ?
[12:44] <nucco> i've even restarted samba, changed my workgroup ...
[12:44] <H-Town> i've already tried putting in my vista cd but it seems that ubuntu has a firm grip on things
[12:44] <RoyK> soundray: nope. didn't help. but then - it's not _slowing_down_ the network part, it's breaking it
[12:44] <soundray> H-Town: boot from a live CD and do it with gparted
[12:44] <soundray> RoyK: I know, it was like that here
[12:44] <nucco> H-Town: if your vista bootable cd doesn't work, it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:45] <nmditka> H-Town:  what happens when you put in your vista cd?
[12:45] <H-Town> i have to return this laptop and get it replaced, so i'm putting the original OS on it and i'm putting ubuntu back on the new laptop, fyi
[12:45] <soundray> RoyK: I just tried the ipv6 thing as a general speed measure and it seemed to help with that, too. Too bad it doesn't work for you. What chipset do you have?
[12:45] <RoyK> soundray: but it still fails. if leaving a ping running, it fails after downloading ~16MB of data
[12:45] <H-Town> well, it goes through the motions to format the harddrive, but the last step errors
[12:45] <MarcoPau> soundray: what am I supposed to check?=
[12:45] <nmditka> what is the error?
[12:45] <nucco> wait, how do i find out which usernames can logon to samba shares?
[12:46] <H-Town> i can't remember, it's been a few days
[12:46] <greencookie> Mortice: wow, trippy:) I'm not going to try that.
[12:46] <soundray> MarcoPau: what it's set to do when a camera is connected
[12:46] <H-Town> i was hoping there would be some sort of terminal command I can enter and my harddrive procedes to wipe itself clean
[12:46] <MarcoPau> soundray: usually I do open in digikam
[12:46] <greencookie> Mortice: Cant I make elinks default browser for irssi? and get it opened in new tty?:) heh
[12:47] <soundray> MarcoPau: just to play around a bit - disable all automatic thingies, maybe then the manual mount will work
[12:47] <MarcoPau> soundray: but even if I say "open in a new window" it'll open it, I will see the first two directory levels but when I get to the pictures it won't open them
[12:47] <soundray> H-Town: what's the problem with booting a live CD?
[12:47] <MarcoPau> soundray: yes that's what I wanted to do. Thus I said "do nothing" but I don't know how to mount it then...
[12:47] <soundray> MarcoPau: 'sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt'
[12:48] <MarcoPau> soundray: won't work
[12:48] <soundray> MarcoPau: what does it say?
[12:48] <H-Town> the vista cd won't format my harddrive.. i'm trying to remember what happens... shit i can't!... i'll try it again i guess and i'll come back here to report what happened
[12:48] <EtteSB> anyone else have problems with the linux of Skype?
[12:48] <MarcoPau> soundray: specify the filesystem
[12:48] <soundray> !language | H-Town
[12:48] <ubotu> H-Town: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[12:48] <nucco> oh my... i'm still typing password after password.
[12:48] <theelbermungster> does anyone here have Tor and Privoxy?
[12:48] <soundray> MarcoPau: 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt'
[12:48] <H-Town> oh sorry
[12:48] <nmditka> H-Town:  can you boot into the LiveCD though?
[12:48] <H-Town> yea
[12:49] <nmditka> ok
[12:49] <MarcoPau> soundray: did that also, won't work
[12:49] <soundray> H-Town: so why don't you follow my suggestion?
[12:49] <H-Town> gparted?
[12:49] <soundray> MarcoPau: you need to say what the error is
[12:49] <nmditka> there is also a command for that but my memory is buggy
[12:49] <MarcoPau> soundray: hold on let me try to disable a few thing
[12:49] <MarcoPau> s
[12:49] <nmditka> i'm looking up the man pages
[12:50] <MsK`> hi
[12:50] <H-Town> i'm not sure what you mean by do it with gparted, i'm at their website checking it out though
[12:50] <meezfoghi> hahahhahahahahaha
[12:50] <MsK`> I have a problem with xmame, I don't have any sound, the only error I get is : "no mixer plugin available"
[12:50] <nmditka> gparted is a program that should be on your LiveCD
[12:50] <soundray> H-Town: open a terminal on the live system and run 'gksudo gparted'
[12:51] <graham> just a quickie - i hope! - my mysql.err log is always empty and i need to see what's going on - setting up replication
[12:51] <MarcoPau> soundray: cause even if I say "do nothing" I will see it mounted
[12:51] <MarcoPau> soundray: thus that thing won't actually disable the automount
[12:51] <soundray> MarcoPau: close digikam in case it interferes
[12:51] <H-Town> ok what's that going to do?
[12:51] <aladinsane> i have added a few icons on my panel and i wonder how i can re-arrange them (without removing them and adding them again in a new order), anybody know?
[12:51] <ThcMan> hey, what are the odds that upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy will fix my sound? :x
[12:52] <MarcoPau> soundray: well yes that's already closed... it's ubuntu that mounts it automatically
[12:52] <IdleOne> aladinsane: right click and move
[12:52] <H-Town> i still have to back up a few movie files before I format my harddrive
[12:52] <EtteSB> anyone else have problems with the linux Client of Skype?
[12:52] <H-Town> but i wrote that down
[12:52] <H-Town> for later
[12:52] <soundray> H-Town: it's a front-end for a partitioner. You can simple delete all partitions with it
[12:52] <aladinsane> IdleOne: so simple...thnx!
[12:52] <MarcoPau> soundray: do you know whare to disable automount from?
[12:52] <H-Town> is it a graphical application or is it done through terminal?
[12:52] <nmditka> H-Town you can also format the partitions to NTFS with it
[12:52] <IdleOne> aladinsane: np
[12:52] <nmditka> it's a graphical app
[12:53] <soundray> MarcoPau: use the same dialog, maybe on a different tab
[12:53] <soundray> H-Town: graphical
[12:53] <__machine> how do i disable port 111 sunrpc?
[12:53] <H-Town> ok, so gparted should wipe my harddrive clean and the partititions so that i can boot with the vista live cd afterwards and install windows?
[12:53] <gordonjcp> nucco: probably some sort of password for that machine then
[12:53] <nmditka> unless there's a problem with your harddrive
[12:53] <soundray> H-Town: it will give you the option to do so
[12:53] <TehDave> H-Town: Why would you ever want to install Vista? -_-
[12:54] <H-Town> i have to
[12:54] <nmditka> he borrowed the laptop
[12:54] <TehDave> ahh...nvm then
[12:54] <H-Town> i'm returning my laptop to be replaced, the sound card was defective
[12:54] <nucco> gordonjcp: i did this same procedure on another machine, didn't ask for a password.
[12:54] <soundray> TehDave: please don't start this kind of discussion here
[12:54] <greencookie> H-Town: get peatnuts, or knoppix, or suse:) or..UBUNTU:)
[12:54] <gordonjcp> nucco: hm, no idea then
[12:54] <TehDave> sorry 'bout that
[12:54] <graham> anyone help me with my blank mysql.err log?
[12:54] <MarcoPau> soundray: I don't have any other tabs
[12:54]  * greencookie is almost done with work.
[12:54] <gordonjcp> graham: have you enabled logging in my.cnf
[12:54] <nucco> gordonjcp: i give up. first, no DRI, now i can't print. hmmm
[12:54] <H-Town> i'm installing ubuntu on the replacement laptop, cross my heart and hope to die :-)
[12:55] <graham> #Enter a name for the error log file. Otherwise a default name will be used.
[12:55] <graham> log-error=/var/log/mysql.err
[12:55] <soundray> MarcoPau: System-Preferences-Removable drives has multiple tabs
[12:55] <greencookie> gluck H-Town :)
[12:55] <gordonjcp> graham: sounds about riught
[12:55] <greencookie> I need to figure out how to make wireless work on my desktop as well:)
[12:55] <greencookie> and ATI drivers:D
[12:55] <raphael_> join
[12:56] <raphael_> now i work on ubuntu feisty and connected by wireless
[12:56] <theelbermungster> \
[12:56] <MarcoPau> soundray: I guess we're not talking about the same window.. where do you load that from?
[12:56] <TehDave> greencookie: I almost dropped Ubuntu 'cause of my wireless drivers (Broadcom 4318)
[12:56] <soundray> MarcoPau: are you in KDE or gnome?
[12:56] <MarcoPau> soundray: kde
[12:56] <greencookie> TehDave: is that for laptop? dell b130? cuz I think i need the bcm43xx drivers for this lappy as well:)
[12:57] <soundray> MarcoPau: never mind then.
[12:57] <TehDave> greencookie: nope, desktop...Linksys WRT54GS
[12:57] <graham> maybe i could run mysqld manually to get a log?
[12:57] <soundray> MarcoPau: perhaps you should describe your problem to the people in #kubuntu
[12:57] <TehDave> but the router's upstairs, and I can't run a wire
[12:57] <greencookie> my laptop works perfect now, its just my desktop with netgear wg111v2 usb adapter thats giving me BIG problems.
[12:58] <graham> i'm lost :
[12:58] <greencookie> TehDave: ndiswrapper destroyed my system:)
[12:58] <graham> :(
[12:58] <TehDave> ahhh
[12:58] <greencookie> lol @ TehDave. Same situation, router in living room, PC in room:)
[12:58] <TehDave> I ended up finding the restricted drivers under administration
[12:58] <greencookie> TehDave: lucky you.
[12:59] <graham> i've set up a MASTER and a SLAVE for mysql replication - i do START SLAVE an it wont connect 2 master
[12:59] <TehDave> Yeah...lucky I still had my old wired card lying around XD
[12:59] <greencookie> TehDave: lol
[12:59]  * nucco wonders why he's constantly inclined to go back to ubuntu dapper
[13:00]  * greencookie wonders along with nucco.
[13:00]  * soundray joins in the wondering
[13:00] <greencookie> how do u post a link copied from the GUI?
[13:00]  * greencookie thinks its a wonderful world.
[13:00] <TehDave> dunno...first time seriously using a linux OS personally
[13:00] <greencookie> TehDave: welcome to the club:)
[13:00] <graham> s'ok guys i'll keep racking my brain - have a nice day
[13:01] <TehDave> some years ago I tried out some random distro of Linux and was confused as hell
[13:01] <soundray> graham: consider joining #mysql
[13:01] <graham> good thinkin
[13:01] <graham> ta
[13:01] <graham> :)
[13:01] <nucco> every upgrade since i left dapper has left me frustrated in one way or the other... :(
[13:01] <greencookie> TehDave: that random distro was mandrake 10 for me:)
[13:02] <TehDave> greencookie: I have _NO_ idea what it was
[13:02] <greencookie> TehDave: rofl.
[13:02] <Pici> !away > Gorgory-Out (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[13:02]  * greencookie is finally done with work!
[13:02] <greencookie> ok guys. I'm out
[13:02] <magnetron> !offtopic
[13:02] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:02] <greencookie> bye Evanlec , TehDave
[13:02] <TehDave> peace
[13:02] <soundray> nucco: it's a good idea to dual boot between dapper and a fresh install of the latest
[13:03] <greencookie> !bye | magnetron
[13:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bye - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:03] <magnetron> /join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:03] <nucco> soundray: dapper happens to not support most of my hardware. but it works fine if i chose to work with a cripled system
[13:03] <TehDave> What's better about Dapper vs. Gutsy?
[13:04] <theelbermungster> can someone tell me how to uninstall Tor and Privoxy?
[13:04] <soundray> nucco: does gutsy run well off the live CD, or is that frustrating, too?
[13:05] <nucco> soundray: the lack of persistence on the livecd isn't so useful
[13:05] <magnetron> theelbermungster: use if you used synaptic to install, use synaptic for uninstall
[13:05] <xeer> hi everyone. i'm having a horrible experience upgrading from fiesty to 7.10
[13:05] <soundray> nucco: I'm asking because I was going to suggest a fresh install
[13:05] <xeer> first of all, it crashed during the update
[13:05] <nucco> soundray: my install is about a week old. i haven't used software from outside official repositories
[13:05] <xeer> i restarted, typed 'dpkg --configure -a' and let it finish
[13:06] <mewt> Im trying to isntall libflashsupport for pulseaudio but the script says that i need pulseaudio 0.9.7 - anyone know of a repo for pulseaudio that has the latest packages ?
[13:06] <mewt> the one in the repos is 0.9.6
[13:06] <xeer> restarted again, and now i can't even login.. gdm seems to crash when trying to get to the desktop
[13:06] <doviende> anyone know about suspend-to-ram and resume problems?  i can suspend-to-disk and resume with no problem, but i can't resume from suspend-to-ram.  I know it worked previously, but i can't do it now
[13:06] <doviende> i'm trying all sorts of options with s2ram
[13:06] <nucco> soundray: yesterday, i applied the available updates, today i realised i no longer had DRI
[13:06] <doviende> is there anything else i should try?
[13:07] <theelbermungster> gusty is da bomb
[13:07] <nucco> soundray: i would've downgraded, but compiz works much better after the updates... leaves me in a fix.
[13:08] <nucco> why not disable compiz? switching workspaces is *much* easier in compiz. and expo is useful. that's my only reason for sticking
[13:08] <xeer> anyone know what could be the cause of my issue? the only session i'm able to login to is the failsafe terminal
[13:08] <nucco> xeer: what error message?
[13:08] <theelbermungster> thx, magnetron.
[13:08] <garyuu> do we have any R experts around?
[13:09] <Pici> garyuu: have you tried #R ?
[13:09] <xeer> nucco, no error message. gdm just restarts back to the login screen
[13:09] <garyuu> Pici: I'm in there right now, but can't figure out what's wrong and that guy is on a mac/OSX machine
[13:09] <nucco> xeer: try creating a new user in a terminal with 'adduser'
[13:09] <nucco> xeer: then login with that user
[13:09] <theelbermungster> sorry, i meant to say that on offtopic.
[13:10] <garyuu> Pici: got an installation issue...
[13:10] <Pici> garyuu: ah.
[13:10] <xeer> nucco, as in it loops.. it never reaches the desktop
[13:11] <xeer> nucco, what about my other users that i have?
[13:11] <nucco> xeer: try that first... then we can assume its a corruption in their home directory
[13:11] <nucco> xeer: that is, if a new user works.
[13:11] <xeer> alright, brb i guess =/
[13:11] <theelbermungster> i got a problem in compiz. the close/minimize bar doesn't show up when i enable compiz.
[13:12] <bullgard4> What are the properties of the 'safe graphics mode' which you can choose as a menu option and operating mode of the Ubuntu desktop CD?
[13:14] <e|64> hi I have problems with wifi
[13:15] <nmditka> what are your problems with it?
[13:15] <e|64> I cannot connect to a accesspoint with wpa sec.
[13:15] <nucco> e|64: using network-manager?
[13:16] <e|64> yes
[13:16] <xeer> back, i tried a new user.. i had the same restart problem with gdm
[13:16] <nucco> e|64: is dhcp available on the network?
[13:16] <e|64> yes
[13:16] <TehDave> so...has anyone gotten Hellgate: London to run on Gutsy?
[13:16] <e|64> on windows it works fine
[13:16] <nucco> e|64: what wireless card?
[13:16] <xeer> nucco, that should rule out corruption.. right?
[13:16] <e|64> pcmcia
[13:16] <nucco> xeer: i had that issue once, can't remember what exactly it was that fixed it...
[13:17] <e|64> but it works on other (non secured) nets
[13:17] <nucco> xeer: check your xorg configuration...
[13:17] <k3ito> my sound has suddenly stopped!!!!  the volume cotrol now has a no entrey oogo over it and if i click it it returns this error no volume control gstreamer plugin and/or devices. after running lshw this is the outcome for my sound device http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44725/ HELP!!!!
[13:17] <nucco> e|64: i mean which manufacturer
[13:17] <nmditka> e|64:  are you sure you're using the right encryption?
[13:17] <e|64> t-sinus 154
[13:18] <chazco> Hi... done suppose anyone can help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=608760 ?
[13:18] <bauer> my irc in ubuntu starts quanta up when i click on links. How do i change that to firefox ?
[13:18] <e|64> in the system it is isl3890 prism sth like
[13:18] <sluimers> Hi, I'd like my alarm notifier to launch a program in a terminal, can that be done?
[13:18] <rahmen> Hi! I'm having some trouble with my wireless connection. "lshw -C network" gives me "*-network DISABLED".. how do I enable it? this is the same problem as I get: http://www.nabble.com/getting-wireless-card-to-work-t4339881.html
[13:18] <e|64> yes it is wpa personal
[13:19] <infuzzer> hi, need help with bluetooth dongle
[13:19] <infuzzer> can someone help me?
[13:19] <nmditka> wpa what?  64-bit?  128-bit?
[13:19] <e|64> ha
[13:20] <e|64> but I cannot choose that here in ubuntu
[13:21] <MtJB> oh, my brothers, hear my plea, cuz my g/f, she can't see me!
[13:21] <MtJB> not on my macbookpro running 7.10, that is
[13:21] <MtJB> anyway to make that built-in ivideo cam work under Ubuntu?
[13:21] <nmditka> oops i screwed up WPA and WEP nm
[13:21] <infuzzer> somebody can help me with bluetooth>
[13:21] <nucco> infuzzer: you should have asked the question straight away
[13:21] <infuzzer> ?
[13:21] <Pici> !ask
[13:21] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:21] <infuzzer> I cant connect my Nokia
[13:21] <infuzzer> It;s all
[13:21] <MtJB> luckily, apple airport is immune to fuzzing
[13:21] <nucco> infuzzer: connect to what?
[13:22] <infuzzer> nucco, usb dongle
[13:22] <nucco> infuzzer: as in connect to which program?
[13:22] <rahmen> I have this problem: http://www.nabble.com/getting-wireless-card-to-work-t4339881.html and I'm using gusty gibbon and the "Networking" option in system -> admin doesn't exist
[13:22] <nucco> infuzzer: is the device detected and made discoverable?
[13:22] <infuzzer> nucco, yes
[13:22] <nucco> infuzzer: which program to connect to? or you just want to send files?
[13:22] <infuzzer> nucco, i have problems with passkey
[13:22] <infuzzer> nucco, i want to spare them
[13:23] <raphael_> #quit
[13:23] <bulmer> rahmen-> at which point does it fail?
[13:23] <nucco> infuzzer: see /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf
[13:23] <infuzzer> sec
[13:23] <infuzzer> nucco, it's all ok
[13:24] <infuzzer> nucco, where i can get bluez-passkey-gnome ?
[13:24] <nucco> infuzzer: i think there's a place to specify default passkey in there
[13:24] <infuzzer> nucco, Ubuntu 7.10
[13:24] <infuzzer> nucco, i need bluez-passkey-gnome
[13:24] <Andycasss> what happens when i log out in middle of update?
[13:24] <Andycasss> Cos i just accidently did
[13:24] <Shaoran-sama> MtJB: Perhaps this one helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225621
[13:25] <Pici> Andycasss: Was it downloading or installing?
[13:25] <Andycasss> installing
[13:25] <nucco> infuzzer: i doubt if there's a gui for that... on ubuntu at least
[13:25] <nucco> infuzzer: never got it to work anyway.
[13:25] <Pici> Andycasss: Thats probably 'A Bad Thing'
[13:25] <k3ito> my sound has suddenly stopped!!!!  the volume cotrol now has a no entrey oogo over it and if i click it it returns this error no volume control gstreamer plugin and/or devices. after running lshw this is the outcome for my sound device http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44725/ HELP!!!!
[13:25] <infuzzer> Is there bluez-passkey-gnome for Gutsy x32?
[13:26] <infuzzer> Synaptic can't find it.
[13:26] <joar> I need some special characters like f.example lambda , does anybody know how to get those in ubuntu ?
[13:26] <twisties> Quick question. Can I set my LiveCD as a software source and do a Gutsy update through the update manager?
[13:26] <twisties> instead of A] downloading it or B] reformatting with a LiveCD install
[13:27] <Pici> twisties: Unfortunately, no.  Upgrades can only be done with the AlternateCD.
[13:27] <joar> I'm using 'character map' from accessories (gnome, ubuntu) but can't find lambda nor any other special chars
[13:27] <twisties> oh damn
[13:27] <twisties> just received my LiveCD in the mail too
[13:27] <twisties> I guess i'll hold off till I go to a big lan soon. I'll grab the Alternate ISO there
[13:28] <twisties> can't justify downloading a CD iso at the moment
[13:28] <Pici> joar: Change the script type on the left
[13:28] <nmditka> k3ito it detects your sound card fine so maybe gstreamer is conflicting with another program
[13:28] <nucco> infuzzer: for edgy i found this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/gnome/bluez-passkey-gnome
[13:28] <infuzzer> nucco, i'm under Gutsy
[13:29] <k3ito> nmditka it says UNCLAIMED though. is that right?!
[13:29] <Eicca> What are the kubuntu alternate installs username and password?
[13:29] <Myrtti> Eicca: the ones you gave to it
[13:29] <Myrtti> same as in desktop installation
[13:29] <joar> Pici: thnx, I tried, but none of them seem to have lambda... I think I've found both lambda and other special characters in there before ... is there some packages I can install supporting more characters ?
[13:29] <nucco> infuzzer: if you just want to change the pin, perhaps you just change the default in that hcid.conf file
[13:30] <infuzzer> nucco, that's the point, it doesn't work
[13:30] <nucco> i can't find the package in gutsy myself
[13:30] <nucco> the default pin isn't accepted?
[13:30] <Eicca> Myrtti: I didn't give anything yet, login screen appeared and asked for username and password..
[13:31] <Pici> joar: If I go to script type Greek, I see the lambda there.  Not every font has unicode extensions.
[13:31] <nmditka> K3ito i'm not the best at linux hardware.  i didnt want your problem to go ignored though
[13:31] <nmditka> i do often find that restarting helps but im a noob
[13:31] <k3ito> no worries ;)  I'm just stumped.  it was working fine a second ago
[13:32] <Myrtti> Eicca: fun
[13:32] <Eicca> Myrtti: what is?
[13:32] <nmditka> i think its some conflict.  are you running kde on that system
[13:32] <joar> Pici: you're right, found it, cheers :)
[13:32] <Eicca> nmditka: I took alternate install and just pressed http://r.servut.us/kubuntu that button
[13:32] <Pici> joar: the search tool works too, just make sure you check the 'search in character details' box
[13:33] <joar> Pici: yep, search tool made it a lot easier :9
[13:34] <nmditka> K3ito:  so you do have KDE on that system.  are you running in it right now?  I ask because when I had KDE on my system a whole lot of stuff would clash and not work.  Gnome properties would hang, audio would stop running in KDE.  i ended up just picking Gnome and everything works fine.
[13:35] <Eicca> nmditka: was that supposed to come to me?
[13:35] <nmditka> oh wow..  i mixed up usernames really badly
[13:36] <Eicca> :D
[13:36] <PriitM> Hi! I got external HDD what reports 2gb free room while using ubuntu and 100gb free room on windows system. Folder .trash is 64kb. What could be the problem?
[13:36] <Eicca> I don't have anything on my system, just windows xp
[13:36] <Eicca> I am installing it right now
[13:36] <Eicca> kubuntu
[13:36] <k3ito> nmditka: yes, but it has worked fine before
[13:36] <Eicca> kde + ubuntu
[13:37] <Pici> PriitM: can you pastebin the output of df -h ?
[13:37] <Pici> !paste | PriitM
[13:37] <ubotu> PriitM: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:37] <nmditka> K3ito: a software conflict is the only idea i have.  but i don't know much.
[13:38] <PriitM> Pici, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44730/
[13:38] <PriitM> it's /media/Elements drive
[13:39] <k3ito> nmditka: i tried updating some software and it hung then i hard reset adnd noticed it.  don't know 100%that was the cause but it's possible
[13:39] <barbagrossa> hi
[13:39] <nmditka> do you know what file it hung on?
[13:39] <MarcoPau> soundray: disabled automount and mounted sdb1 manually. all regular
[13:39] <Pici> PriitM: Hm.  I'd try using the Graphical Disk Map on it from Gnome, I believe its in Applications>Accessories, just point it at the mountpoint.
[13:39] <k3ito> !xorg
[13:39] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[13:39] <__machine> how can i get a list of all packages installed by apt-get?
[13:40] <jrib> __machine: aptitude search '~i'
[13:40] <bullgard4> What are the properties of the 'safe graphics mode' which you can choose as a menu option and operating mode of the Ubuntu desktop CD?
[13:40] <Pici> __machine: dpkg -l will list all your installed packages, apt-getted or not.
[13:40] <PriitM> Pici, I'll check it out, thanks
[13:40] <nmditka> K3ito: well i would think that would mess more with your graphics than your sound, but it might have something to do with it
[13:41] <nmditka> did you finish the update?
[13:42] <PriitM> Seems that Disk Usage Analyzer is displaying hard drive size wrong - it appears as 203Gb drive, but df -h shows it as 370Gb drive
[13:43] <IdleOne> PriitM: what's 160gigs between friends :)
[13:43] <PriitM> Right.. too bad, this harddrive isn't big friend of mine :<
[13:48]  * genii gulps a coffee
[13:49] <simp_lg> Hi! I have a question. How lead out string with necessary number in Bash from STDOUT? I have used next construction: first: STDOUT>list.txt, second: cat -n list.txt | grep -m 1 $number_of_string | cut -f 2. But is very hard :\. Exist simple comands or other constructions? Help me please.
[13:50] <jrib> simp_lg: can you give an example?
[13:50] <jrib> simp_lg: do you just want to get a certain line?
[13:50] <simp_lg> yes
[13:51] <jrib> simp_lg: sed -n 'Np'     where N is the line number you want
[13:51] <k3ito> aplay -l
[13:51] <k3ito> aplay: device_list:222: no soundcards found...
[13:51] <k3ito> nmditka: ^^
[13:52] <nmditka> welp then im completely dead wrong
[13:52] <simp_lg> jrib: thank you!
[13:52] <k3ito> gonna restart and check that it is seated in the pci slot correctly
[13:52] <chanibal> hi, could someone help me with iptables rules? i need to ban outgoing ports except 80 and 443, i have two interfaces eth0 - internet, eth1 - local (nat works)
[13:54] <grindcore> can someone help me with couple question about install ubuntu 7.10 ??? thx a lot
[13:54] <xeer> is it just me or is gutsy sluggish?
[13:54] <chanibal> i tried: iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --sport 80 -j ACCEPT; iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -j DROP    but that closes all my traffic
[13:54] <IdleOne> !ask | grindcore
[13:54] <ubotu> grindcore: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:55] <grindcore> ok. how I must make partiotions ?
[13:55] <IdleOne> let the installer do it
[13:55] <grindcore> how many a sizes i mean
[13:55] <IdleOne> grindcore: minimum 10gigs for Ubuntu is recommended
[13:56] <smyclops> i also use ubuntu 7.10 the problem is that if i copy files from another machine windows the file will appear with a lock onj it so i can delete it ,so can someone help me on this
[13:56] <rubydiamond> what is the best svn gui client for ubuntu?
[13:56] <grindcore> so if I put 20giig for ubuntu and 1 gig for boot, thats all ?
[13:56] <KIAaze> smartsvn?
[13:56] <huji> Can we assign keyboard shortcuts like Super+K?
[13:56] <KIAaze> but svn is easy compared to cvs
[13:56] <huji> I mean, can Super key be used in combination with other keys?
[13:57] <IdleOne> smyclops: right click , properties, unlock it
[13:57] <smyclops> thats where the problem is, it fails to unlock it
[13:57] <tantradnya> -ChanServ-: do u copy files from windows to Linux or from another machine to linux?
[13:57] <rubydiamond> what is the best svn gui client for ubuntu?
[13:58] <IdleOne> smyclops: hit alt+f2 then type gksu nautilus navigate to your files and unlock them
[13:58] <knoppix> si, io ci ho provato, ma quando digito i comandi mi dice. COMANDO SCONOSCIUTO!
[13:58] <smyclops> under permissions i try to unlock it but nothing happens there
[13:58] <void^> chanibal: as far as i can see, you're allowing source ports there - those are usually random
[13:59] <IdleOne> knoppix: wrong channel try #ubuntu-it
[13:59] <jrib> rubydiamond: try them all and use what you like best.  KIAaze made a suggestion earlier.  There is also rapidsvn
[13:59] <tantradnya> smyclops: do u copy files from windows to Linux or from another machine to linux?
[13:59] <smyclops> from windows to linus
[13:59] <peppeniello> ••• Sîåø •••
[14:00] <peppeniello> ••• Sîåø •••
[14:00] <peppeniello> »—› smyclops ‹—« ••• Sîåø •••
[14:00] <tantradnya> smyclops: did u try "gksudo nautilus"
[14:00] <peppeniello> »—› shoot^ ‹—« ••• Sîåø •••
[14:00] <jrib> peppeniello: stop
[14:00] <peppeniello> cosa stop
[14:00] <gordonjcp> !ops | peppeniello
[14:00] <ubotu> peppeniello: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[14:01] <peppeniello> my italian
[14:01] <gordonjcp> !it | peppeniello
[14:01] <ubotu> peppeniello: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:01] <smyclops> let me try that
[14:01] <rubydiamond> !svn gui client
[14:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svn gui client - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:01] <rubydiamond> !svn
[14:01] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[14:01] <peppeniello> :(-øk-):
[14:01] <rubydiamond> !svn ubuntu
[14:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svn ubuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:01] <gordonjcp> rubydiamond: probably you're looking for tortoisesvn
[14:01] <gordonjcp> rubydiamond: What exactly are you trying to do?
[14:01] <rubydiamond> !tortoisesvn
[14:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tortoisesvn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:02] <peppeniello> but here not yes discharge '
[14:02] <rubydiamond> !tortoisesvn
[14:02] <huji> !super
[14:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about super - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:02] <jrib> rubydiamond: stop guessing factoids, we've told you two gui's to try
[14:02] <ebirtaid> ;p
[14:02] <rubydiamond> jrib, what are they?
[14:02] <Pici> !msgthebot | rubydiamond
[14:02] <ubotu> rubydiamond: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[14:02] <huji> rubydiamond:  can you suggest a graphical SVN client for Ubuntu as well
[14:03] <jrib> rubydiamond: I suggested rapidsvn and KIAaze suggeste smartsvn I believe
[14:03] <smyclops> when it asks run program as root wat do i type there
[14:03] <huji> jrib what is the difference?
[14:03] <tantradnya> smyclops: enter ur root password
[14:03] <KIAaze> yes, smartsvn, it works in windows too since it's java-based
[14:03] <jrib> huji: try them, I have only tried rapidsvn
[14:03] <Pici> !sudo | smyclops
[14:03] <ubotu> smyclops: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[14:04] <chi11y> smyclops, that may also just be your user password
[14:04] <ackdesha> huji: There is a svn plugin for Eclipse IDE that works well (also java)
[14:04] <smyclops> ok i see now
[14:04] <huji> ackdesha: I have nothing (including Eclipse) installed other than what comes with Feisty
[14:04] <peppeniello> I do not only understand inglese.volevo to say not yes discharge here
[14:04] <peppeniello> film, musìx
[14:04] <gsuveg> re
[14:05] <peppeniello> I speak little
[14:05] <aimtrainer> hi! I cant start google-earth.. it hangs on the start window.. I googled a bit but wasnt really successful. can anyone help me pleaseß
[14:05] <peppeniello> hour the stò speaking from the translator
[14:05] <aimtrainer> *?
[14:05] <peppeniello> hour the stò speaking from the translator
[14:05] <Esteth> After deleting ~/.gconf/apps/nautilus and ~/.nautilus, i'm having problems with lots of things. The sound mixer applet in the gnome-panel won't launch with an error, i get no desktop background and cannot right click the desktop, and nautilus file manager won't open. What should i do?
[14:05] <smyclops> thanks guys sudo now works for deleting the files ,so how do use it to unlock the file
[14:05] <dgjones> !it | peppeniello
[14:05] <ubotu> peppeniello: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:05] <smyclops> wat command should i write?
[14:06] <peppeniello> si :(-øk-):
[14:06] <peppeniello> yes ok
[14:06] <peppeniello> yes
[14:06] <ubstud_> I recently installed wine
[14:06] <jrib> smyclops: what are you unlocking exactly?
[14:06] <tantradnya> smyclops: how do u copy files from windows to linux?
[14:06] <ubstud_> but whenever I try it run it..it locks up my computer forcing me to restart
[14:07] <smyclops> i just specify the ip address of the machine then it connect me to shared files
[14:07] <tantradnya> ubstud_:which program did u try to run using wine?
[14:07] <arghh2d2> Hello, good morning, or evening wherever you are...  I just set up a dual boot ubuntu/fedora install and i want to revert to my ubuntu version of grub, how do i do that?
[14:07] <smyclops> so when i copy them they will have a lock on the file
[14:08] <HunterKiller> I'm having graphical glitches, like lines showing up on my screen but they go away if I move my mouse over them
[14:08] <ubstud_> tantradnya, wine just came under applications and I tried to open it from there
[14:08] <HunterKiller> is that a setting glitch or a driver glitch do you guys think?
[14:08] <Whitor> Hi, I'd like to Have Gnome running on Virtual terminal F7, and KDE running on Virtual Terminal F8. Is this possible? and can you reccomend a guid on how to do this?
[14:08] <tantradnya> smyclops: oh, then when u open nautilus using gksudo command, right click on file and set permissions as u do it in windows
[14:08] <ubstud_> tantradnya, I'm trying to run winefile
[14:09] <Whitor> guide*
[14:09] <fous> how do I set up permissions on samba n also writing to my hard drive?
[14:09] <tantradnya> ubstud_: see wine can be used to run windows applications under linux (not all, but many)
[14:09] <brett_> hey, has anyone had a problem playing dvd's with w32codecs and libdvdcss2 installed?
[14:09] <thomas_> Hi Guys
[14:09] <ankit> what's difference between java and c++
[14:10] <arghh2d2> whitor, i think kde start menu has that option but it sends the second vt to f9 by default
[14:10] <ankit> hi thomas
[14:10] <HunterKiller> it's a different language
[14:10] <brett_> ankit they're two completely different programming languages
[14:10] <ubstud_> tantradyna, I know i've used wine before...but when I installed it on the new ubuntu it won't work at all..it just jams up my computer
[14:10] <jrib> ankit: that's offtopic here, please ask in a programming channel or #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:10] <ubstud_> I can't even open winefile to RUN an windows app
[14:10] <Whitor> arghh2d2: really? I don't care what Terminal it send it to really ... I'll check that out. Thanks !
[14:10] <tantradnya> ubstud_: oh ok
[14:10] <ankit> ok
[14:11] <tantradnya> ubstud_: oh ok, i dont have problem currently
[14:11] <thomas_> i have a huge problem: i installed the nvidia*.run driver and had the nvidia-glx-new packet installed... know the xserver wont start properly... :/
[14:11] <smyclops> its giving mi this error : (nautilus:9101): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[14:11] <smyclops> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[14:11] <HunterKiller> anyone know if white lines on my screen that go away if I mouse over them is a compiz settings problem or a driver problem?
[14:11] <Whitor> arghh2d2: if its possible in KDE... it must be possible from Gnome too ...
[14:11] <Whitor> arghh2d2: thaks, its a help knowing that its possible
[14:11] <jrib> HunterKiller: I would turn off compiz and see if it happens
[14:11] <ubstud_> anyone here using xchat?
[14:12] <ubstud_> how can I change the port what it uses to connect to freenode?
[14:13] <HunterKiller> jrib, it still happens if I go to my appearance settings and select 'none'
[14:13] <thomas_> Better: How can I deinstall a [nvidiadriver].run installation?
[14:13] <arghh2d2> Whitor, possible sure, but alot easier to just login with kde first and start gnome second.  i dont think you can have the same user login in simultaneously tho.
[14:13] <jrib> HunterKiller: then it can't be a compiz problem
[14:13] <rubydiamond>  best GUI client for mysql on Ubuntu?
[14:13] <HunterKiller> so, most likely a driver thing
[14:13] <w0nder> how do I set the root password in ubuntu?
[14:13] <dgjones> ubstud_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[14:13] <HunterKiller> ?
[14:13] <Pici> !sudo | w0nder
[14:13] <ubotu> w0nder: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[14:14] <Whitor> arghh2d2: true, I'll see how KDE does it first, and see if I can apply the same procedure in gnome .
[14:14] <arghh2d2> Question, Fedora wiped out my Ubuntu grub, how do i restore it?
[14:14] <pipelineaudio> is there a "yast" in ubuntu?
[14:15] <pipelineaudio> or do I find some way to edit the grum menu by hand?
[14:15] <ankit> can i installed yahoo voice messanger on linex
[14:15] <Pici> !grub > arghh2d2 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:15] <aladinsane> can i somehow change the settings for windows so the don't snap to the left of my screen when i open them, maybe even so they open in the same place as the last time the were open?
[14:15] <martin_____> hey, i've got a tft monitor connected to the vga port on my laptop, and it's refusing to accept any other resolution than 800x600, whether i set it in the screen and graphics applet or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, any ideas?
[14:15] <pipelineaudio> !grub
[14:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:15] <doviende> ok, solved my suspend problem on gutsy:  there seems to be a problem with the 2.6.22-14-generic kernel that makes my suspend-to-ram not work.  if i go back to using 2.6.20-16-generic then i can suspend-to-ram just fine
[14:16] <thomas_> How can i deinstall a .run package?
[14:16] <jrib> thomas_: what are you trying to install?
[14:16] <elkbuntu> doviende, excellent make sure you check launchpad to see if there's a bug for it :)
[14:16] <Tomcat_> thomas_: Manually... find the files, remove them. It's bad practice to install .run files... sorry. :-\
[14:17] <thomas_> jrib: i tried to install a nvidia driver... :////
[14:17] <doviende> elkbuntu: ok will do
[14:17] <ubstud_> guys how can I change the port# on xchat?
[14:17] <jrib> !nvidia > thomas_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:17] <Tomcat_> ubstud_: In the network settings, there is a server tab, there you can change it.
[14:18] <ubstud_> tomcat..I don't even see network settings
[14:18] <ubstud_> I see network setup under preferences
[14:18] <ubstud_> but I don't want to enable a proxy I just want to connect to freenode using another port
[14:18] <Tomcat_> ubstud_: Well, I can't give you exact names, having a German version here.
[14:19] <Tomcat_> ubstud_: Oh wait... xchat or xchat-gnome?
[14:19] <fous> I have an error writing to disks how do I setup my hard drives to write to them?
[14:19] <minus198> Can someone help me get my Logitech ClickSmart 310 webcam to work? When I try to start camorama, it complains about: "Could not connect video device (/dev/video0). When I check for the /dev/video0, there is no such thing. What should I do?
[14:19] <ubstud_> tomcat, I have both
[14:19] <Tomcat_> ubstud_: I can only help you with xchat-gnome.
[14:19] <Pici> ubstud_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit under heading "Fix 1: Change port" details how to change the port for many different clients.
[14:19] <Tomcat_> ubstud_: The settings dialog should have a network list, and there you can change the servers.
[14:20] <thomas_> jrib, : The problem is i installed accidentaly the *.run driver... know every time i reboot xserver says cant find my graficcard :(
[14:20] <ubstud_> tomcat, okay I have xchat-gnome open I can change the servers but there is no box to change the port
[14:20] <HunterKiller> I have a "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950" graphics card using the "Intel 945GM" chipset and ubuntu has me using the intel i810 driver. It seems to work but I think it is the reason for the ghost lines on my screen. Is there anything I can do about it?
[14:20] <jrib> !xconfig > thomas_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:21] <Tomcat_> ubstud_: The servers are always given in "servername/port" notation... so irc.freenode.net/1234 will work.
[14:21] <jrib> thomas_: reconfigure and fall back to the 'nv' driver, then uninstall what you installed, then use the instrucions ubotu first gave you to install them properly
[14:21] <zaharazod> minus198:  try running dmesg in a terminal after you plug in the camera; it may tell you what video device was created
[14:21] <komputes> thomas: Hi
[14:21] <minus198> zaharazod, [ 5170.638261] /build/buildd/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-2.6.22/debian/build/build-generic/media/gspcav1/gspca_core.c: USB SPCA5XX camera found.(SPCA500+unknown CCD)
[14:22] <Whitor> Is there any way to change from Gnome to KDE mid session?
[14:22] <zaharazod> minus198:  if it created something other than video0, you may have to give camorama a device option (-d or -c, iirc)
[14:22] <komputes> darn, Does anyone know what in Ubuntu takes care of the brightness?
[14:22] <zaharazod> minus198:  does it mention creating anything under /dev ?
[14:22] <komputes> what file is responsible for brightness buttons?
[14:23] <minus198> zaharazod, Nope.. Doesn't say anything...
[14:23] <Whitor> komputes: I have the same issue... But I have a woorkaround
[14:23] <doviende> HunterKiller: i've got a 945GM on my laptop and i'm using the "i810" driver with no problem
[14:23] <komputes> Whitor: whats your workarround, gotta link?
[14:23] <minus198> zaharazod, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2024/
[14:23] <minus198> Thats what it gives me
[14:23] <ubstud_> that's messed up. Whenever I try to add /8001 after it it just automatically goes away
[14:23] <Whitor> komputes: switch to a virtual terminal ... use your control keys to bring up your brightness, then switch back to ctrl-alt-f7
[14:24] <fous> really what kind of labtop u use?
[14:24] <minus198> zaharazod, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2025/ thats the lsusb output
[14:24] <ubstud_> k got it
[14:24] <Tomcat_> ubstud_: Mh. Try :8001?
[14:24] <ubstud> finally
[14:24] <kpearce> hi. I'm having a problem launching an external application (java web start) from Galeon on Ubuntu. It correctly detects the MIME type, and lists Web Start as one of the handlers for it, but when I try to open it I just get the web-start cache, which would seem to imply that the filename argument isn't getting passed in. Any ideas?
[14:24] <Whitor> komputes: what window manager are oyu using ?
[14:24] <HunterKiller> doviende, what model of laptop? I have an hp dv5167cl
[14:24] <ubstud> alright now could someone help me out with wine?
[14:24] <HunterKiller> my laptop's spec sheet: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00620024&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=1843738&rule=42259&lang=en
[14:24] <bill_> hello... i'm having a problem with an ext2 fs not recovering space from my deleted files... presumably something has something open(), but lsof and fuser deny that...  but my space is not being recovered and umount says it is busy...
[14:24] <doviende> HunterKiller: Toshiba satellite a100
[14:25] <Whitor> ubstud: whats your question?
[14:25] <zaharazod> minus198:  hmm.. don't know about that camera specifically.. its possible you might have to give some options to the module
[14:25] <minus198> zaharazod, maybe so..
[14:25] <ubstud> I install wine from synaptic..after finishing installing wine comes under the "applications" tab and I go to that and try to run wine
[14:25] <doviende> HunterKiller: you could try using the vesa driver, but that would turn off accelleration
[14:25] <ubstud> but it just jams up my computer
[14:25] <HunterKiller> If it's not compiz and it's not my graphics card, why would I be getting glitchy lines on my screen that go away if I mouse over them?
[14:25] <zaharazod> minus198:  are there any files under /dev/video/, perhaps?
[14:26] <Whitor> ubstud: Not saying I can help.... just suggesting you might want to put that out there...
[14:26] <minus198> zaharazod, no /dev/video exists...
[14:26] <zaharazod> i'm not sure how udev under ubuntu labels those things by default
[14:26] <Whitor> ubstud: how does it jam up your compiuter?
[14:26] <minus198> zaharazod, It just isn't there..
[14:26] <ubstud> Whitor, I can't do anything can't move my mouse all of a sudden it freezes
[14:26] <Bitu> Hi folks. I have an old scanner (microtek scanmaker 3740) that works fine on 7.04. I'm trying to make it works on 7.10 64 bit, but gets "Faild to open device 'sm3840:libusb:004:002': Access to resource has been denied". What to do?
[14:26] <Whitor> ubstud: can you switch to a virtual terminal?
[14:26] <HunterKiller> well, not really mouse over them... they go away if I do a selection box over that part of the screen, so I think the dimming effect of the selection box is fixing the glitches temporarily... it could be related to another bug I'm having
[14:26] <zaharazod> minus198:  lsmod output?
[14:26] <Pici> ubstud: What are you trying to run with Wine? Its not a windows emulator.
[14:27] <ubstud> Whitor, virtual terminal?
[14:27] <ubstud> Pici, I know I'm just trying to run a game but I can't even open up wine to run it
[14:27] <Whitor> ubstud: Pici's Q
[14:27] <minus198> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2026/
[14:27] <minus198> zaharazod,
[14:27] <Whitor> you don't open wine...
[14:27] <HunterKiller> you know when the password prompt comes up on the screen and everything else dims? That dimming effect seems to be incorrectly calculating my resolution because it doesn't fill the whole screen. I think that's likely because I use an external monitor for my laptop because my laptop's LCD is broken
[14:27] <Pici> ubstud: You dont open Wine to run games, you need to run something like `wine game.exe`
[14:27] <Whitor> wine opens programs
[14:27] <ubstud> Pici, I've always used winefile to run apps
[14:28] <ubstud> yeah I like the winefile method..that way
[14:28] <Bitu> Hi folks. I have an old scanner (microtek scanmaker 3740) that works fine on 7.04. I'm trying to make it works on 7.10 64 bit, but gets "Faild to open device 'sm3840:libusb:004:002': Access to resource has been denied".
[14:28] <ubstud> that way* I don't have to type in a bunch of stuff into terminal
[14:29] <ubstud> I'm still here that other ubstud_ was when I was using a java irc..couldn't get xchat working
[14:29] <thomas_> Me again. dpkg doenst find a working graphic card... Xserver still says "Running in low graficmode, please select your display manually"
[14:29] <komputes> Whitor: Virtual Terminal? My Fn+F5 or F6 don't work, and those control brightness, how do I troubleshoot?
[14:30] <Bitu> Hi folks. I have an old scanner (microtek scanmaker 3740) that works fine on 7.04. I'm trying to make it works on 7.10 64 bit, but gets "Faild to open device 'sm3840:libusb:004:002': Access to resource has been denied".
[14:31] <HunterKiller> also, anyone know why my screen temporarily blacks out every time I open the screen and graphics dialog or I open the Totem Movie Player?
[14:32] <Bitu> Hi folks. I have an old scanner (microtek scanmaker 3740) that works fine on 7.04. I'm trying to make it works on 7.10 64 bit, but gets "Faild to open device 'sm3840:libusb:004:002': Access to resource has been denied".
[14:32] <dgjones> !repeat | Bitu
[14:32] <ubotu> Bitu: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[14:32] <sh> i have a question about running windows live writer under wine on ubuntu - can anyone help me out?
[14:33] <ubstud> no one else is experiencing the same problem?
[14:33] <HunterKiller> It's extremely easy to feel ignored here because no one acknowledges what you say for the most part. There's 1200 people in here and about 90 percent of my questions go completely unanswered
[14:33] <Bitu> dgjones: I'm feeling ignored. I'm just assuming that people comes and goes here very often. If now nobody knows the answer, in a few minutes there is a chance some one else will
[14:34] <djm62> when trying to upgrade using the alternative CD from Feisty->Gutsy I get "Could not calculate the upgrade" error.  How can I track it down?
[14:34] <aricz> Hi, anyone know a *good* .XM/.MOD/S3M player for linux?
[14:34] <_Al3x> okay very confuddled here, phoronix reckon they got an x1950 running with full support with the fglrx drivers, although i cant get them to wrok at all, the drivers section on the ATI site says fuck all about the x1950... seriously cofused, any takers?
[14:34] <Pici> !language | _Al3x
[14:34] <ubotu> _Al3x: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:34] <komputes> Whitor: Gnome (X Windows)
[14:35] <dgjones> Bitu, they don't change that quick, I'd suggest trying again in half an hour or so, you get a reasonable changeover or users in the channel then
[14:35] <googl1> hi@all
[14:35] <Bitu> dgjones: Thanks.
[14:36] <HunterKiller> they don't change that quick? Since this whole 'don't repeat yourself' thing started I've seen a dozen parts and joins
[14:36] <nucco> anyone used the gnome-voice-control thingy?
[14:37] <dgjones> HunterKiller, but when there's 1200 in the channel, a dozen isn't that many, I'd have said that 100 joins/parts would be more likely to make a difference
[14:38] <HunterKiller> a dozen joins in a couple minutes is a high turnover
[14:38] <zeroflag> is there any way to get frameless window emulation in gnome/ubuntu?
[14:38] <zeroflag> **windows emulation
[14:39] <jrib> zeroflag: what is that?
[14:39] <aleksi> jljlöjöllöjlök
[14:39] <zeroflag> a little more concrete: is there any way to get frameless windows emulation in gnome/ubuntu? I'd like to open a windows program (visualstudio = C++/CLI = incompatible with wine and mono) but have it's windows managed by gnome/compiz.
[14:39] <HunterKiller> zeroflag: you mean like a windows app running inside a virtual machine without having to see that virtual machine's desktop and whatnot
[14:40] <zeroflag> HunterKiller: pretty much, yeah.
[14:40] <HunterKiller> zeroflag: do a google search of something like 'cohesion linux windows'
[14:40] <HunterKiller> zeroflag: There's a lot of tutorials on how to get a cohesion-like effect in linux. I tried it and it works ok
[14:41] <zaharazod> minus198:  hmm.. i would expect to see videodev
[14:41] <minus198> :/
[14:41] <zaharazod> minus198:  it could be built-in on your kernel though.. can you try modprobe'ing it?
[14:41] <zaharazod> (ie. modprobe videodev)
[14:41] <minus198> yeah..
[14:41] <minus198> done
[14:41] <HunterKiller> zeroflag: I'll find you a specific link if you give me a few minutes.
[14:42] <broken_> What do you guys recommend , aptitude or apt-get to install from terminal? And what is the default?
[14:42] <zaharazod> did dmesg output anything?
[14:42] <minus198> zaharazod, not a thing..
[14:42] <xeer> hi everyone. my gnome panel and desktop wont load. i can't alt+F2 either. what could be wrong?
[14:42] <jrib> broken_: aptitude handles dependency tracking better imo.  There is no default
[14:43] <minus198> xeer, something is wrong with nautilus maybe
[14:43] <zaharazod> minus198:  does it show up in lsmod?
[14:43] <maul^> I started my ubuntu, now it asks me for my username&password via GUI. when  ubuntu is in that state, I cannot connect it via VNC. what should I do?
[14:43] <xeer> other applications are acting weird as well, such as firefox crashing unexpectidly
[14:43] <broken_> jrib: thansk.
[14:43] <minus198> zaharazod, video                  18060  0
[14:43] <minus198> is that what you wanted?
[14:44] <jrib> zeroflag: there were some instructions on a wiki page about qemu about that, but I can't find them right now
[14:44] <minus198> zaharazod, gspca                 608336  0
[14:44] <minus198> videodev               29312  1 gspca
[14:44] <minus198> v4l2_common            18432  1 videodev
[14:44] <minus198> v4l1_compat            15364  1 videodev
[14:44] <jrib> !paste | minus198
[14:44] <ubotu> minus198: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:44] <Pici> !paste | minus198
[14:44] <nucco> hey, is it just me, or does xgl consume more memory than the regular xorg?
[14:44] <xeer> i just installed gutsy. i have to login with failsafe gnome just to pass the login screen
[14:44] <genii> broken_: I personally prefer apt-get but mainly for the stupid reason that the other commands I use a lot all begin with same sort of command-name and it is easier to remember etc  eg: apt-cache apt-get apt-proxy apt-mirror
[14:45] <Pici> xeer: You've been running this whole time in the failsafe session?
[14:45] <jrib> zeroflag: here we go https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization
[14:45] <xeer> Pici, yes
[14:45] <Pici> xeer: What video card do you have? Have you attempted to install restricted drivers?
[14:45] <dwees> anyone know anything about mtlm_auth version 3.0.25 or greater?
[14:45] <xeer> i have an ati radeon X1600, i have the restricted drivers enabled
[14:46] <xeer> fglrxinfo reports ati
[14:46] <HunterKiller> zeroflag: Still there?
[14:46] <Pici> xeer: and you've never been able to start the regular gnome session?
[14:46] <genii> Whats with these floodbots? I first noticed them day before yesterday
[14:46] <xeer> not since i've updated to gutsy
[14:46] <jrib> genii: tests, ignore them
[14:46] <genii> jrib: Ah, OK
[14:46] <dwees> I'm trying to get wine to work, and it seems to be requesting that application
[14:47] <HunterKiller> zeroflag: http://lifehacker.com/software/linux-tip/run-windows-and-linux-apps-side+by+side-274907.php
[14:47] <Sharpie> is there a good program I can use to backup my system? (i mean, regular backups of specific files/folders)
[14:47] <jaym> where do i go to adjust my lcd its way to dim
[14:47] <xeer> also with failsafe it takes about 3-4 times longer to login
[14:47] <jrib> !backup > sharpie (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:47] <HunterKiller> Sharpie: There's a clone of Mac's Time Machine if you want something like that
[14:48] <nucco> pls, how do i disable xserver-xgl without uninstalling it?
[14:48] <Nutubuntu> Is there a how-to on reconfiguring xorg.conf after upgrading from Feisty? For some reason my monitor and mouse settings don't seem to be detected, so I'm back at 800x600 with a generic mouse   :/    do not want
[14:48] <dgjones> Sharpie, There's an application called Unison which seems quite useful for backing up
[14:48] <Sharpie> HunterKiller: yeah i remember reading about it in slashdot
[14:48] <Pici> xeer: Did you install xserver-xgl?
[14:48] <mip> bash
[14:48] <xeer> Pici, i reinstalled it and reconfigured
[14:48] <Andycasss> Is there a way to remotely control the whole system (including console) ?
[14:49] <Andycasss> I think i heard something about ssh
[14:49] <Sharpie> Andycasss: you can use vncviewer
[14:49] <xeer> Pici, oh wait.. xgl.. not that i'm aware of. something else could have installed it
[14:49] <Andycasss> Sharpie, I cant control the console with it
[14:49] <Andycasss> it just locks
[14:49] <jaym> where do i go to adjust my lcd its way to dim
[14:49] <xeer> Pici, yes it's installed
[14:50] <Sharpie> Andycasss: hm, never tried that so i dunno, i'm no help then =[
[14:50] <Andycasss> (ctrl alt f1)
[14:50] <naut-lk> what's the console command for deinstallation?
[14:50] <NMajik> Where does aircrack-ng output the results of the WEP key resolution if none is specified? (I'm only testing my network; I can't enable WPA because some of the computers who connect wirelessly don't seem to like it)
[14:50] <deadlock> im trying to do an install but the auto partioner stales at 0%when scanning the partition table, are there scans or something I should do to, clean up my currenttables/system to make it easier for another install.
[14:50] <Pici> xeer: If you create a new user, can they login sucessfully?
[14:50] <xeer> Pici, i tried creating a guest account. it suffered the same issues.
[14:51] <genii> naut-lk: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>               optionally with --purge to remove old conf files and so on
[14:51] <Sharpie> oh, another thing - earlier i needed to unlock a folder that contained a few image files and it was a root folder, so i opened nautilus as root and then went over all the files and set their owner as my user. is there a better way to do it? (cause the way i did it was really slow)
[14:52] <naut-lk> genii: thanks --purge to remove old config? will they stay on the hd if i don't purge ?
[14:52] <genii> naut-lk: If you don't use the --purge next time you install same app it will use the old configs
[14:52] <xeer> Pici, is there a way to restart the gutsy update process? it was installing the packages and froze midway. I had to resume it after i restarted, i'm sure something got screwed up
[14:52] <eZtaR> Is there a way of doing an 'advanced filesearch' in ubuntu?
[14:52] <naut-lk> genii: ok, thanks
[14:52] <genii> naut-lk: Yes, they remain otherwise in (usually) /etc
[14:53] <eZtaR> i need to search by date added/changed
[14:53] <Andycasss> Pici: do you know, does ssh enable control of the console (alt ctrl f1)
[14:53] <Pici> xeer: If your sources.list contains gutsy lines, you can just do an `apt-get update` apt-get dist-upgrade`
[14:54] <carl_> hey, do happen nothig after tiping enter, for xubuntu instalation ¡¡ what can I do ? :(
[14:54] <Pici> Andycasss: Can you rephrase that, I'm not sure what you're asking.
[14:54] <henry_> MOI
[14:54] <genii> Pici: He wants to know if you ssh in can you switch consoles on remote box usual way
[14:55] <genii> Andycasss: No, you can't
[14:55] <tomasso> anyone know a cron gui in ubuntu?
[14:55] <Pici> Andycasss: if you mean what genii, said, then no.  you need to use something like screen if you want to use that.
[14:55] <Sharpie> earlier i needed to unlock a folder that contained a few images in it and it was a root folder, so i opened nautilus as root and went over all the files and set their owner as my user. is there a better (and faster) way to do it?
[14:55] <systemd0wn> Anyone know of a app i can use to monitor some http servers uptime?  Somthing simple. GUI.
[14:56] <jaym> how can i fix the brightness on my lcd. can barely see it
[14:56] <Thecks> Sharpie, use the console? :p
[14:56] <Andycasss> Pici: Yeah, thats what I meant. Its a pity since I dont have anything else connected to my linuxbox than a power cable and an eth cable
[14:56] <xeer> Pici, it says my dist-upgrade is already complete. how can i force it?
[14:56] <Sharpie> Thecks: and do what? :\
[14:56] <Ballena> is the maximum size of an FAT32 partition 32 GB?
[14:56] <Thecks> Sharpie: Or even just select all the files? (Control+A)
[14:56] <systemd0wn> jaym, Laptop? you try the function keys on the keyboard? Try the gnome brightness applet?
[14:56] <Sharpie> Thecks: can't
[14:57] <Pici> !screen | Andycasss
[14:57] <uhlive> hey guys can anyone of you help me get a boot splash working
[14:57] <ubotu> Andycasss: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[14:57] <HunterKiller> the dimming effect when a password prompt appears is apparently detecting my resolution wrong because the dimming effect only fills the top left two-thirds of my screen. How can I fix this?
[14:57] <Sharpie> Thecks: i mean, then it doesn't have the permissions tab
[14:57] <Thecks> Sharpie: sudo chown username *
[14:57] <jaym> the applet says cannot get laptop brightness applet
[14:57] <Sharpie> Thecks: * means all the files?
[14:57] <jaym> the applet says cannot get laptop panel brightness
[14:57] <Pici> xeer: Does it give you errors, or just says that there are 0 files to upgrade?
[14:57] <Sharpie> Thecks: (so i have to cd to that directory?)
[14:57] <jaym> function keys dont work either
[14:57] <Thecks> * means all files and folders in the current directory :)
[14:57] <Gandalf84> i'm using pacpl but i don't understand where to download and install MAC, http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/mac-port/ no more exist
[14:57] <genii> systemd0wn: There is webalizer, but it keeps more stats than just that, etc
[14:57] <chrisbuddy> i am trying to execute a program from an .sh file but it says that gine does not give permission.  is there any way to work around this?
[14:57] <xeer> Pici, says 0 files to upgrade
[14:57] <genii> !info webalizer
[14:58] <ubotu> webalizer: web server log analysis program. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.01.10-32 (gutsy), package size 334 kB, installed size 1516 kB
[14:58] <systemd0wn> genii, thanks! :)
[14:58] <Thecks> Sharpie: Yes or use /home/username/* if you don't want to CD
[14:58] <Pici> xeer: Sounds to me that the upgrade is done.
[14:58] <genii> systemd0wn: np
[14:58] <systemd0wn> jaym, hrm.  When did it dim?
[14:58] <djm62> quick question, before I break my system: if I run the cdromupgrade script, and select the default Yes about downloading updates from the net, will it preferentially take updates from the CD to save me money downloading, or will I have no luck there?
[14:58] <jaym> i just loaded it and it came up dim
[14:58] <xeer> Pici, yes because i finished it after the crash. i'd like to redo it if possible
[14:58] <jaym> works fine on xp should i reboot?
[14:58] <Sharpie> Thecks: ok, so let's say the folder's called A, i do sudo chown user ~/myfolder and then sudo chown user ~/myfolder/*. correct?
[14:58] <Moduliz0r__> !info linpopup
[14:58] <ubotu> linpopup: X Window System port of Winpopup, running over Samba. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-8.2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 78 kB, installed size 344 kB
[14:59] <systemd0wn> jaym, ya give that a shot. come back if its not OK.
[14:59] <Sharpie> Thecks: ok i just realised i'm retarded. ignore the A
[14:59] <jaym> k
[14:59] <Inuyasha32246> hi all
[14:59] <Pici> xeer: You cant 'redo' an upgrade if its done. It just doesnt work like that.
[14:59] <Thecks> Sharpie for all files in myfolder then yes :)
[14:59] <Inuyasha32246> finally got my radeon 9200se working
[14:59] <Thecks> *. won't do all files
[14:59] <Thecks> Not all files have extensions
[14:59] <xeer> Pici, so if files got corrupted when it froze, i'm pretty much screwed on my dist?
[14:59] <djm62> it's asking me "Do you want to start the upgrade?" and giving me dire warnings about downloading 1253M.  I can't afford to download that, which is why I had the CD sent to me.
[14:59] <erUSUL> djm62: it will take the things that have not been updated from the cd
[14:59] <Sharpie> Thecks: i meant . as the end of the sentence
[14:59] <Inuyasha32246> DON"T UPGRADE YET
[14:59] <genii> Sharpie: Wouldn't sudo chown username -R ~/foldername           be more efficient?
[15:00] <Inuyasha32246> JEZUS, I LEARNED MY LESSON THE HARD WAY
[15:00] <Pici> !caps | Inuyasha32246
[15:00] <Sharpie> genii: i really haven't ever used chown. i'm kidna new to linux
[15:00] <djm62> erUSUL: so that should be at most a couple of hundred meg?
[15:00] <LjL> !caps
[15:00] <erUSUL> !caps | Inuyasha32246
[15:00] <Inuyasha32246> i knpo
[15:00] <Inuyasha32246> i kno
[15:00] <ubotu> Inuyasha32246: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[15:00] <Bitu> Hi folks. I have an old scanner (microtek scanmaker 3740) that works fine on 7.04. I'm trying to make it works on 7.10 64 bit, but gets "Faild to open device 'sm3840:libusb:004:002': Access to resource has been denied".
[15:00] <Pici> Inuyasha32246: If you know, then why are you doing it?
[15:00] <Inuyasha32246> chill homie
[15:00] <Thecks> Was about to say you can use recursive if you want to do all files and folders no matter how deep
[15:00] <erUSUL> djm62: it depends on what you have installed on your machine
[15:00] <Sharpie> genii: so i'm guessing -R means the dir and everything in it?
[15:00] <LjL> djm62: if it's going to *download* 1253M (download, or *install*?), then a CD will save you about half of that, but no more
[15:00] <systemd0wn> genii, you use webalizer before?
[15:01] <broken_> Whenever I turn on my computer (19 inch widescreen) my monitor goes blank until the login page says something about out of sync 90hz / 60 refresh
[15:01] <genii> Sharpie: Yes, Recursivley
[15:01] <broken_> How can I fix this?
[15:01] <Thecks> Sharpie: -R is recursive, so it will do all files and folders in that directory even the files 10 folders deep
[15:01] <genii> bleh typos
[15:01] <hussam> ahh good ol ubuntu
[15:01] <Sharpie> genii: ok, thanks =o
[15:01] <Pici> xeer: If anything didn't install or configure properly, then it would have said so and prompted you to fix it.
[15:01] <jmagder> Has anyone had a problem where they restart their computer, and it resumes from a hibernate file, even though they "restarted" and didn't hibernate?
[15:01] <systemd0wn> genii, Its a log analyzer?  I was looking to monitor a remove server
[15:01] <Inuyasha32246> so suddenly firefox font zoom is fuked up
[15:01] <hussam> hrmm
[15:01] <hussam> jmagder: statee it
[15:01] <Inuyasha32246> and no i didnt accidentally ctrl+
[15:01] <genii> systemd0wn: Since the web logs also contain the uptime of the webserver it is there too
[15:01] <jmagder> hussam: Sorry, not sure what you mean. :)
[15:02] <hussam> jmagder: did u reboot it from the system or did u force one?
[15:02] <Inuyasha32246> any ideas?
[15:02] <jaym> now its fine and bright
[15:02] <jatt> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbfs_3.0.22-1ubuntu3.4_i386.deb
[15:02] <jatt> 403 Forbidden
[15:02] <djm62> LjL: at this stage I'm confused.  it's reporting that it's going to download 1253M, but I'm running it off the cdrom and presumably most of that should be on the CD.  I can't imagine that I have the default install plus a gigabyte plus of random extras.  if I do, I can afford to remove them, but I can't download that much
[15:02] <jatt> ?
[15:02] <systemd0wn> genii, right but if the server is down i wont know right now. i will know when i have access to the logs again :)
[15:02] <Sharpie> i'll be more specific this time, let's say i want to backup my firefox profile folder (~/.mozilla/..) every day. which program would be best suited for the task?
[15:02] <jmagder> hussam: I think I just restarted from the shutdown menu.  I had hibernated a reboot before that.
[15:02] <jatt> trying to update dapper
[15:02] <hussam> hrmm
[15:02] <Inuyasha32246> simplebackup
[15:02] <hussam> are u sure this is a linuX problem
[15:03] <hussam> this happens in Xp quite a few times
[15:03] <Thecks> Sharpie: A cron job
[15:03] <hussam> ooo wait
[15:03] <hussam> logg the session off
[15:03] <LjL> djm62, try changing the sources.list manually to gutsy (keep a backup!), and doesn't an apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade, but WITHOUT saying "Yes"... just look at what it says it's going to download.  just to make sure it's not just update manager going mad
[15:03] <Inuyasha32246> sudo apt-get install sbackup
[15:03] <jmagder> hussam: Yes, its a linux problem.  Unfortunately it corrupted my HD.  I rebooted and so many inodes were then linked together.
[15:03] <LjL> djm62: then restore the backup sources.list
[15:03] <Inuyasha32246> for sharpie
[15:03] <genii> systemd0wn: A simple thing you could do is write a shell script that does a ps |grep apache         then if not true emails you a note the webserver is not running
[15:04] <LjL> djm62: and when i said "and doesn't", i meant "and do".
[15:04] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: try to start the sentence with "Sharpie:", that way it's highlighted
[15:04] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: anyway, i'll try it, thanks
[15:04] <Inuyasha32246> kk
[15:04] <djm62> LjL: Good Call, and exactly the sort of advice I was looking for
[15:04] <hussam> jmagder: hrmmm...... force an unpected reboot like directly from the cpu
[15:04] <jmagder> hussam: you mean using sudo reboot?
[15:05] <Inuyasha32246> so any ideas why my firefox fonts suddenly changed in size?
[15:05] <dimeotane> is there a way to edit the xubuntu menu?  I want the kids account not to show accessories or system tools
[15:05] <hussam> nope
[15:05] <hussam> cutt the supple of power
[15:05] <hussam> then plug it back it
[15:05] <genii> systemd0wn: As far as some gui app which you can monitor the webserver...consider, if the server is down and the app runs there, you will be in a catch-22 of not being able to access it and so know the server is down etc
[15:05] <broken_> Whenever I turn on my computer (19 inch widescreen) my monitor goes blank until the login page says something about out of sync 90hz / 60 refresh :/
[15:05] <dimeotane> Inuyasha32246: you can change fonts with mouse scroll button and alt +
[15:05] <Pici> dimeotane: I suggest asking in #xubuntu, most of us here use Gnome not xfce.
[15:05] <Inuyasha32246> ok
[15:06] <Inuyasha32246> thats nice and all, but should I worry that they changed on their own?
[15:06] <dimeotane> how do I configure the gnome menu then
[15:06] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: um, is there a GUI in this app? :\
[15:06] <Inuyasha32246> yeah
[15:06] <Sharpie> uh, where
[15:06] <jatt> is security.ubuntu.com down?
[15:06] <clockbiscuit> ctrl + mouse scroll does fonts
[15:06] <Pici> dimeotane: right click the menu title and go to edit.
[15:06] <Inuyasha32246> system-administration-simple backup config
[15:06] <erUSUL> !fixres | broken_
[15:06] <ubotu> broken_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[15:06] <HunterKiller> I have few graphical bugs... I get visual artifacts in the form of lines across my screen until I do something like drag a selection box over the area or move a window over the area and the dimming effect when I'm asked for a password when I open the package manager doesn't fill my whole screen.
[15:06] <systemd0wn> genii, Well its shared hosting so thats not going to work. :)  I suppose i could write something for nmap, have it Ping the remote webserver then have it check to see if port 80 is open.  Ya im looking to run something on my laptop to check if the remote webserver is functioning.  Something to give me a basic uptime graph.
[15:06] <akincer> broken: your refresh settings are not right for your monitor as configured for x.org it sounds like
[15:06] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: thx =o
[15:06] <gunashekar> jatt: looks like it is down
[15:06] <Inuyasha32246> kk
[15:06] <Inuyasha32246> np
[15:06] <Gun_Smoke> Has there been any thought into spliting the Ubuntu channel?  Not as in +1 or -offtopic, or the like.  But to limit traffic?  I've been visiting this channel for some time now.. I remember when there would only be around ~400 in the channel an it was much easier to follow along with what was going on.
[15:07] <jatt> gunashekar: ok thanks
[15:07] <strk_> since upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy I get this: ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/cairo/_cairo.so: undefined symbol: cairo_clip_extents
[15:07] <strk_> any idea how to fix it ?
[15:07] <broken_> akincer: how can i fix this?  I remembered something about dpkg-reconfigure-xorg-server
[15:07] <Inuyasha32246> Gun_Smoke \ thats a good idea
[15:07] <gunashekar> jatt: it is working now
[15:07] <genii> systemd0wn: Or just have a dummy file that you wget and report if success or no
[15:08] <Pici> Gun_Smoke: Yes, its been discussed many times. The decision is always not to do it.  Short answer, we'd end up with so much traffic sending people to other channels that its not even worth it.
[15:08] <akincer> broken: First find the settings for your monitor. Most new monitors have the settings on the sticker on the back
[15:08] <systemd0wn> genii, ya that could work :)
[15:08] <Inuyasha32246> yeah thats true enough
[15:08] <Symmetria> urgh can someone tell me how to configure ip addresses on interfaces in ubuntu in cli, which files do i edit
[15:08]  * Symmetria has used bsd for far 2 long
[15:08] <Inuyasha32246> hehe
[15:08] <systemd0wn> genii, ah :( but i wanted pretty graphs and stuff... eh' oh well i guess i will have to take functionality over form this time
[15:08] <Nutubuntu> After upgrading from Feisty my monitor and mouse settings don't seem to be detected, so I'm back at 800x600 with a generic mouse, how do I reconfigure to get my old settings back?
[15:08] <Inuyasha32246> sudo apt-get install xorg-edit
[15:09] <genii> Symmetria: /etc/network/interfaces  normally. Do man interfaces for help
[15:09] <Symmetria> thanks gentii
[15:09] <Symmetria> genii I mean
[15:09] <akincer> broken: Then you can do one of two things -- 1) Use the screens and graphics utility under System > Administration > Screens and Graphics OR 2) Hand edit your xorg.conf file
[15:09] <Inuyasha32246> Sorry Nutubuntu
[15:09] <Inuyasha32246> that was to you
[15:09] <genii> Symmetria: np
[15:09] <broken_> akincer: this monitor supports up to 76hz refresh rate supposedly, but right now i can only use 60hz
[15:09] <Inuyasha32246> whats wrong with 60hz
[15:09] <broken_> akincer:  can I not reconfigure xorg?
[15:09] <Nutubuntu> Thanks Inuyasha32246 ... I saw "xorg" and figured that it must be :)
[15:09] <akincer> broken: I actually recommend editing xorg.conf by hand in cases where things don't seem right
[15:09] <Inuyasha32246> of course you can
[15:09] <brobostigon> hi
[15:09] <freak124> I have deinstalled ubuntu and now I'm trying to reinstall it, thoug there is something strange going on: nautilus can see my other partitions and so can windows, but the installer and gparted can't, so I can't install ubuntu again. I could try the alternate cd to install, but that wouldn't solve the problems. I hope someone can help, I've been asking this for about 3 months now...
[15:09] <akincer> broken: Sure, you can do that if you prefer
[15:10] <broken_> Alright.. one of my concerns is I can actually see the background twitching the pixels or I don't know what it is..
[15:10] <Inuyasha32246> during install list option no acpi
[15:10] <strk_> FYI: I found it was due to a cairo package manually installed, uninstallign the manual installation fixed it
[15:10] <broken_> I'm not sure what attributes to that.
[15:10] <Inuyasha32246> freak124
[15:11] <Symmetria> hrm thats odd, in /etc/network/interfaces I have a definition that looks right but it doesnt start on boot
[15:11] <djm62> LjL: that's weird, dist-upgrade says it needs to get 1616M, as opposed to 1253M which would imply that  only 363 MB of packages would come off the CD.  is that sane?
[15:11] <akincer> broken: You need to make sure both your horizontal and vertical refresh rates are in line with specs
[15:11] <Inuyasha32246> I dont know why but that worked for me and I had the same problem
[15:11] <broken_> ok..
[15:11] <Gun_Smoke> At the moment I can only keep about ~30 sec of posts in the window, with larger post such as freak124's its even less.  Perhaps the topic should be revisited.
[15:11] <Nutubuntu> Inuyasha3224 - do I need to enable some non-default repos for xorg-edit? can't find it in aptitude
[15:11] <freak124> Inuyasha32246, where is that?
[15:11] <Inuyasha32246> h/o freak
[15:11] <freak124> ok
[15:11] <Inuyasha32246> nutu, yes
[15:11] <xeer> i'm so confused. when i login my gdm will blank the screen brown and then do nothing. eventually it restarts back to the login.
[15:11] <broken_> akincer: on the back of my monitor it says "50/60Hz" im not sure what the first number is, but the second is refresh?
[15:12] <akincer> broken: Newer monitors often will alert you when your settings aren't optimal with a little box that says something like "For best performance, use . . . ."
[15:12] <Inuyasha32246> you need to open a web browser, type in google.com, and search for xorg-edit
[15:12] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: i'm in sbackup but the destination dialog doesn't let me choose a different partition (or even browse to the /media dir)
[15:12] <LjL> djm62, no, it doesn't sound very sane to me... try giving me a pastebin of your sources.list
[15:12] <snowniak_> help!
[15:12] <akincer> broken: When in doubt, go to the manufacturers website
[15:12] <Inuyasha32246> why would you want to backup a media drive
[15:12] <Inuyasha32246> ?
[15:12] <snowniak_> does anybody knows how to set the ulimit's on linux??
[15:12] <Inuyasha32246> thats temp storage
[15:13] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: i wanna backup from sda to sdb
[15:13] <Inuyasha32246> ah
[15:13] <ikonia> snowniak_: ulimt is the command
[15:13] <snowniak_> like stacksize?
[15:13] <Inuyasha32246> no shiz
[15:13] <Inuyasha32246> ok
[15:13] <zeroflag> is there any way to get frame-/seamless windows emulation in gnome/ubuntu? I'd like to open a windows program (visualstudio = C++/CLI = incompatible with wine and mono) but have it's windows managed by gnome/compiz. the seamless solution on the wiki 1) doesn't work 2) for me.
[15:13] <snowniak_> but ulimit only shows
[15:13] <Symmetria> hrm what is the name of the graphical network config app in ubuntu btw?
[15:13] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: so is there no way to do it with sbackup? :\
[15:13] <ikonia> snowniak_: no you can use ulimit to set
[15:13] <Symmetria> if I wanted to start it manually with a command
[15:13] <Inuyasha32246> ok real quick, any one who i am helping, plz comment now
[15:13] <Inuyasha32246> i forgot
[15:13] <pshr> sbackup sucks, just do a tar backup of the things u want backed up
[15:14] <jrib> zeroflag: "doesn't work"?  You need to provide more details
[15:14] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: is there no way to choose another partition in sbackup?
[15:14] <DavidVector> I'm having a strange php error on restarting apache -- Ubuntu Gutsy -- http://pastebin.com/m2ad5aed.  Ideas anyone
[15:14] <djm62> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44741/ there it is
[15:14] <Inuyasha32246> yesyes there is
[15:14] <Sharpie> how? :\
[15:14] <ikonia> DavidVector: you've messed with your php.ini
[15:14] <Inuyasha32246> you obviously figured out the using custom part
[15:15] <zeroflag> jrib: 1) it's kinda bitchy in what it likes to launch and what it doesn't and 2) I need my target application to spawn new windows and even processes (it's an IDE with debugger after all) which won't work with the proposed solution.
[15:15] <Inuyasha32246> under include
[15:15] <Inuyasha32246> add directory
[15:15] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: yes, i chose the dir i wanted
[15:15] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: but the destination is the problem
[15:15] <djm62> LjL: the new version was just that with s/feisty/gutsy/g
[15:15] <kalpik> DavidVector, maybe there is a file included round about near that line.. so the problem could be in another file..
[15:16] <h1voltage> I need to blacklist a kernel module before booting to the Gutsy livecd.  Anyone know the boot parameter for that?
[15:16] <Inuyasha32246> im not getting your drife
[15:16] <Inuyasha32246> you want to backup TO a partition
[15:16] <broken_> akincer: in my xorg.conf there is no area that talks about refresh rates, and / or syncs
[15:16] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: i want to set /media/sdb as my destination
[15:16] <ikonia> DavidVector: you did use the php and apache versions out of the official ubuntu repo's didn't you ?
[15:16] <Inuyasha32246> not your primary i suppose?
[15:16] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: nope
[15:16] <ikonia> DavidVector: did you change anything in your php.ini
[15:16] <Symmetria> hrm other than sticking an interface definition in /etc/network/interfaces is there anything else I need to do to make it process that definition on boot
[15:16] <marckie> !usplash
[15:16] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[15:16] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: but the dialog only shows root and home
[15:16] <akincer> broken: What do you see under Section "Monitor"
[15:16] <Ax-Ax> if I want windows on a partition, should I install Windows first?
[15:17] <DavidVector> ikonia: yes I did.  I changed a few settings in the php.ini file, but nothing big.
[15:17] <pshr> Ax-Ax: yes
[15:17] <Ax-Ax> ok
[15:17] <ikonia> DavidVector ok so its going to be sometehing silly like a comment being uncommented or a line not ending with ;
[15:17] <Inuyasha32246> use custom local backup directory
[15:17] <Inuyasha32246> other
[15:17] <DavidVector> ikonia: Here is the php.ini: http://pastebin.com/d335351e5
[15:17] <soundray> Ax-Ax: yes
[15:17] <Symmetria> actually stuff it will do this from home :)
[15:17] <broken_> akincer: just my monitor name, default depth (24) and the modes (1440x1100)
[15:17] <bazhang> Ax-Ax: either way will work--installing windows first is just a bit easier
[15:17] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: but it only shows root and home =\
[15:17] <Inuyasha32246> navigate backwards to sda1
[15:17] <Inuyasha32246> in /media/
[15:18] <Inuyasha32246> ok
[15:18] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: oh there it is :D
[15:18] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: lol i'm an idiot
[15:18] <Inuyasha32246> look CAREFULLY
[15:18] <akincer> broken: what make and model is your monitor?
[15:18] <DavidVector> ikonia:  I thought so too, but could not find anything interesting near the line.  Also, I get this error if I delete php.ini altogether (!)
[15:18] <LjL> djm62: it's a bit of a mess with repeated repositories, but that shouldn't really affect anything... but there IS one thing, i would NOT keep the proposed repositories enabled, ever, and especially when upgrading. i don't know if that might account for such a huge difference in downloaded size... but try removing them and seeing
[15:18] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: i'm not really used to gnome :P
[15:18] <Inuyasha32246> next to home
[15:18] <Inuyasha32246> itsk
[15:18] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: yeah
[15:18] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: that button is so thin >_<
[15:18] <ikonia> DavidVector: do you want my php.ini files to diff against ?
[15:18] <Nutubuntu> Later all -- be well
[15:18] <Inuyasha32246> you gettin it now?
[15:18] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: yeah
[15:18] <DavidVector> ikonia: YES, thanks!
[15:18] <Sharpie> Inuyasha32246: thx
[15:18] <broken_> akincer: LG 194WTX
[15:18] <Inuyasha32246> np
[15:18] <Inuyasha32246> lol
[15:18] <Inuyasha32246> ok
[15:18] <ikonia> DavidVector: what ubuntu version ?
[15:18] <Inuyasha32246> next!!
[15:18] <DavidVector> Gusty
[15:19] <Inuyasha32246> nutubuntu
[15:19] <ikonia> DavidVector: 2 minutes
[15:19] <Inuyasha32246> youre
[15:19] <DavidVector> Gutsy, I mean :-)
[15:19] <Pici> !enter
[15:19] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:19] <Inuyasha32246> gone...
[15:19] <aricz> \:D/
[15:19] <broken_> akincer: (speaking of which my dvi-d connection gives me no video at all, but maybe this is due to the computer I just built it yesterday)
[15:19] <DavidVector> ikonia:  Thanks, I'll do the comparison, but how could I get such an error with a line number if there is no php.ini file (when I delete it)?
[15:20] <ikonia> DavidVector so you've deleted the php.ini file and its still complaining
[15:20] <Inuyasha32246> broken_, once the silicon settles in it'll all work just fine
[15:20] <DavidVector> ikonia:  Yes, I can move it out of the directory and it still complains about line 269!
[15:20] <Inuyasha32246> so who is having xorg woes?
[15:21] <h1voltage> How do you disable a kernel module in LiveCD? Anyone?
[15:21] <ikonia> DavidVector: and it still complains about /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[15:21] <soundray> Inuyasha32246: unless the bit rot has started by then
[15:21] <ikonia> DavidVector: the path didn't change
[15:21] <Inuyasha32246> ive gotten pretty good at fixing the fuker
[15:21] <Inuyasha32246> hehe, nice.
[15:21] <Pici> !language | Inuyasha32246
[15:21] <ubotu> Inuyasha32246: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[15:21] <DavidVector> ikonia:  Yes.  No, the path didn't change, it's the same error . . . one moment and I'll reconfirm.
[15:21] <erUSUL> h1voltage: rmmod it when it is running
[15:21] <graulich> after any time I watch/hear anything on youtube, xine can't play anything on amarok anymore. any way to release xine afterwards, or better yet stop this from happening?
[15:21] <ikonia> DavidVector: thats odd
[15:21] <Inuyasha32246> that word means "to fluff"
[15:22] <h1voltage> erUSUL: im trying to disable ata_piix before it loads at boot so that ahci module catches my harddrives
[15:22] <Inuyasha32246> graulich: man, im sorry i just had this happen
[15:22] <freak124> Inuyasha32246: I don't see the option no acpi anywhere?
[15:22] <broken_> Inuyasha32246: really? Thats an issue?
[15:22] <Inuyasha32246> heres what you do, under sounf in system-pref, turn off esd
[15:22] <Inuyasha32246> um
[15:23] <Inuyasha32246> freak124: you have to type it in
[15:23] <DavidVector> ikonia: Just tried it again, error: PHP:  Error parsing /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini on line 269
[15:23] <freak124> Inuyasha32246: when starting the live cd?
[15:23] <Inuyasha32246> YES
[15:23] <akincer> broken: Are you located in the US or another country?
[15:23] <freak124> ok ty
[15:24] <ikonia> DavidVector: thats super odd. DavidVector it doesn't mean line 269 on the apache.conf that is referencing it does it
[15:24] <broken_> akincer: Canada
[15:24] <Inuyasha32246> press 6 at the first screen
[15:24] <Inuyasha32246> and add no -acpi
[15:24] <akincer> thought so. that helps
[15:25] <graulich> Inuyasha32246, could you be more specific? I can't find the ESD option, maybe I'm not looking in the right place
[15:25] <JordiGH> Hm, Kubuntu has been giving me issues. Why won't it mount the Windows partition?
[15:25] <Inuyasha32246> its in the second tab
[15:25] <JordiGH> Also, the fstab has this weird UID thing. UUID=hexcrapcrapcrap
[15:25] <DavidVector> ikonia:  I looked at apache2.conf, that line is comments.  php.conf is just a few lines, no ref to the ini file.  I also de-installed and re-installed php5 . . .
[15:25] <Eicca> I tried to run gparted live cd, but after "Activating Device-Mapping RAID(s)" and like 5 minutes, nothing happens. Then it just gives errors
[15:25] <JordiGH> Why does it have that instead of /dev/sdawhatever ?
[15:25] <Eicca> and finally it gives this "Invalid boot location /gparted.dat"
[15:25] <akincer> broken: Add these lines to your xorg.conf under the Section "Monitor"
[15:26] <ikonia> DavidVector very unusual
[15:26] <erUSUL> h1voltage: why don't you enable ahci in bios (if that's possible)
[15:26] <soundray> !uuid | JordiGH
[15:26] <broken_> akincer:  ok.
[15:26] <ubotu> JordiGH: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[15:26] <DavidVector> ikonia: yup.
[15:26] <Inuyasha32246> oh ish, i forgot broken_, sorry man
[15:26] <akincer> Horizsync       30.0-83.0
[15:26] <graulich> Inuyasha32246, second tab where?
[15:26] <Ax-Ax> Does the Windows-installer destroy my partitions?
[15:26] <Inuyasha32246> oh jezus
[15:26] <akincer> Vertrefresh     56.0-75.0
[15:26] <ikonia> DavidVector: isn't there a command line option for php that will print config , eg: php --info and you can see where it wants to look for the config file, it prints the ssame as "phpinfo();"
[15:26] <Pici> Ax-Ax: Only if you tell it to.  Otherwise it just overwrites the mbr(grub)
[15:26] <Eicca> and finally it gives this "Invalid loop location /gparted.dat"
[15:26] <Inuyasha32246> which version are you on?
[15:27] <djm62> LjL: after that change it still claims that I have to download 1143M, so it had an effect
[15:27] <broken_> akincer: ok got that, Horizsync 30-83 Vertrefresh 56-75
[15:27] <graulich> Inuyasha32246, I'm on Gutsy running xubuntu-desktop (but I have all the gnome stuff from before I put on xubuntu-desktop)
[15:27] <JordiGH> soundray: I ask because it looks like I'll have to manually add an entry to fstab for the NTFS partition. Do I have to do it with that UUID thing?
[15:27] <HunterKiller> I have few graphical bugs... I get visual artifacts in the form of lines across my screen until I do something like drag a selection box over the area or move a window over the area and the dimming effect when I'm asked for a password when I open the package manager doesn't fill my whole screen.
[15:27] <akincer> broken: Yep, one per line
[15:27] <HunterKiller> can someone help me?
[15:27] <Inuyasha32246> ok
[15:27] <broken_> akincer: and this all goes under section monitor?
[15:27] <akincer> yes
[15:28] <Inuyasha32246> im in full gnome, so I'm not sure if you even have the same sound properties window as i do
[15:28] <Eicca> can someone help me?
[15:28] <akincer> broken: then restart X
[15:28] <soundray> JordiGH: no, you can use old-style device names and UUIDs interchangeably. Your NTFS partition does have a UUID though -- find out with blkid
[15:28] <Inuyasha32246> can i get a verify on the following terminal command to help graulich
[15:28] <Inuyasha32246> rm mod esd
[15:28] <DavidVector> ikonia: phpinfo shows that it is looking for the .ini file in /etc/php5/apache2
[15:29] <Inuyasha32246> eicca
[15:29] <broken_> ok akincer one sec
[15:29] <soundray> Inuyasha32246: no, that's wrong
[15:29] <djm62> LjL: crazy-ish idea.  if I transfer the files from the CD to /var/cache/apt/archives would that fool it into believing that I already have them?
[15:29] <Inuyasha32246> were getting to you
[15:29] <gunashekar> Eicca: just type your request fully. i am sure someone will have an answer
[15:29] <Inuyasha32246> Eicca: were getting to you
[15:29] <ikonia> DavidVector: that is very odd
[15:29] <Inuyasha32246> it is
[15:29] <DavidVector> ikonia: It also gives a series of other files that are being parsed . . . perhaps I'll need to track them down.
[15:29] <Inuyasha32246> ty sound tray
[15:29] <JordiGH> soundray: So is this UUID a level of generality I need not concern myself with?
[15:29] <graulich> Inuyasha32246, "no such directory"
[15:29] <broken_> akincer: xserver fatal error
[15:29] <ikonia> DavidVector possible, I've not seen that behaviour before
[15:29] <soundray> JordiGH: please look at the links that ubotu sent.
[15:30] <ganeshhegde> how to run cpp file
[15:30] <akincer> broken: That's the right setting for you monitor. Something else is wrong
[15:30] <JordiGH> soundray: There's a bunch of acronyms there I have no idea what they are. Should I look them all up in Wikipedia?
[15:30] <Inuyasha32246> ok basically you want to figure out how to remove esd from the startup modules
[15:30] <soundray> JordiGH: I personally would use a UUID whenever possible
[15:30] <akincer> http://ca.lge.com/en/products/model/detail/lcdmonitors_l194wtx.jhtml
[15:30] <ganeshhegde> how to compile c++ program
[15:30] <broken_> akincer: let me look at out[put
[15:30] <Inuyasha32246> you wont have that happy go lucky startup noise any more
[15:30] <ikonia> ganeshhegde if you have to ask, you shouldn't be doing it
[15:31] <Tomcat_> ganeshhegde: g++ myprog.cpp
[15:31] <Inuyasha32246> but it should fix the problem of breaking xine after playing sounds in a web browser
[15:31] <JordiGH> Btw, the ubot factoid is wrong. blkid doesn't need sudo.
[15:31] <soundray> JordiGH: what's the problem you're trying to solve? Just mounting an NTFS partition through fstab?
[15:31] <broken_> "Horizsync" is not a valid keyword in this section akincer
[15:31] <Inuyasha32246> ganeshhegde: get geany
[15:31] <broken_> akincer: if memory serves me right its "HorizSync" ?
[15:31] <DavidVector> ikonia:  I put this into launchpad early this morning as #17967 -- if you think of anything, pls post there.  Perhaps there's a debug troface of some kind that can show every step of PHP initialization?
[15:31] <ikonia> broken_ HorizSync
[15:31] <Inuyasha32246> sudo apt-get install geany
[15:31] <JordiGH> soundray: Yep. I'm running afoul of some KDE bug where such automounting isn't happening automatically.
[15:31] <broken_> yea..
[15:31] <broken_> ok
[15:31] <ikonia> DavidVector: I will, I'm just running a test on a 7.04 box as my 7.10 box is not turned on
[15:31] <graulich> Inuyasha32246, I have access to all the gnome setting panels; where would I find this option?
[15:31] <akincer> on mine, it's Horizsync
[15:31] <sanguisdex> so a song just ended on banchee and now no more song will play and when I try any thing else that uses the sound card it play w/o sound (and yes I have checked my volume leves) what do I have to restart?
[15:32] <ikonia> akincer maybe I'm wrong
[15:32] <Inuyasha32246> system>preferances-sound
[15:32] <JordiGH> And how does ntfs-3g work? Does it go under fs type instead of plain ntfs?
[15:32] <graulich> happen to know the command to that Inuyasha32246?
[15:32] <soundray> !ntfs-3g | JordiGH
[15:32] <ubotu> JordiGH: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[15:32] <DavidVector> ikonia: you are a prince.  I'll sign out now, but contact me via the launchpad note if you find anything.  Thkx much!
[15:33] <ikonia> DavidVector I wll
[15:33] <akincer> looks like x.org has it as HorizSync
[15:33] <JordiGH> And is it really stable? I've heard horror stories.
[15:33] <ikonia> will
[15:33] <akincer> I'm not certain it's case sensitive
[15:33] <Inuyasha32246> one sec grau
[15:33] <broken_> akincer: yep, its case sensitive however I cannot get back to the xorg.conf
[15:33] <broken_> to edit it.. :/ lol
[15:33] <sanguisdex> Inuyasha3224: ok when I test the sound events I get "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open resource for writing."
[15:33] <Inuyasha32246> gnome-sound-properties
[15:33] <akincer> haha. safe boot
[15:34] <Inuyasha32246> oh my jezus
[15:34] <broken_> akincer:  how do you propose i do that?
[15:34] <ganeshhegde> Tomcat_:i have gcc instaled
[15:34] <akincer> interesting that my computer doesn't complain with the S lower case
[15:34] <Inuyasha32246> i cant handle this
[15:34] <Inuyasha32246> ok
[15:34] <akincer> Reboot and go into grub boot options
[15:34] <JordiGH> Are aptitude and apt-get interchangeable in Ubuntu? Under Debian, they heavily disagree on what to install, with aptitude being smarter. Does apt-get in Ubuntu install recommends by default?
[15:34] <broken_> yes akincer  but remmeber i don't have a display :)
[15:34] <Inuyasha32246> anyone who i am helping IM me at surfjdh on aim yahoo msn or icq
[15:34] <akincer> that won't matter on boot
[15:34] <graulich> thx Inuyasha32246 :)
[15:34] <techjim> any1 have a problem where the mouse cursor leaves behind sticky frames?  videos also have low fps on gutsy.  worked fine on feisty
[15:34] <grindcore> can someone give me couple of answers about install ubuntu 7.10 on private chat?
[15:34] <akincer> If your monitor isn't showing boot screens, you've got a broken monitor
[15:35] <broken_> rofl
[15:35] <broken_> Its not displaying it because of sync issues
[15:35] <broken_> Oh oops, I missed that.
[15:35] <akincer> broken: X isn't running at boot
[15:35] <Inuyasha32246> akincer: If your monitor isn't showing boot screens, you've got a broken monitor"      what?
[15:35] <soundray> JordiGH: use my nick so I don't miss your replies. Yes, ntfs-3g is stable
[15:35] <Inuyasha32246> no x at boot man
[15:35] <soundray> JordiGH: the usual wisdom about backups applies
[15:35] <akincer> You know, ram checks, Dell/HP/whatever splash screens
[15:36] <akincer> I'm not sure what's so difficult to understand about that
[15:36] <godzirra> howdy folks.  How come ubuntu doesn't execute .bashrc or .bash_profile if I'm using bash as my shell?
[15:36] <WinterWeaver> I cannot connect to the router on my network. the Page just keeps loading, but nothing shows. Please help
[15:36] <broken_> akincer: in either case i got in, I changed the spelling to "HorizSync" and it outputs the same error "HorizSync" is not a valid keyword fo this section.
[15:37] <Inuyasha32246> i am no longer trying to help people in this chaos
[15:37] <akincer> Hmmm.
[15:37] <MattJ> godzirra: I think it does for me...
[15:37] <broken_> This is under monitor.l
[15:37] <Inuyasha32246> if you need help with gnome, xorg, or ati
[15:37] <MattJ> godzirra: I use it to set a colour prompt
[15:37] <Inuyasha32246> give me an external
[15:37] <akincer> Under root heading Section "Monitor"
[15:37] <JordiGH> soundray: I'm not always replying to you. Sometimes I simply ask in general. :-)
[15:37] <godzirra> MattJ: Well crud.  it doesnt for me.
[15:37] <kuta> how to keep my kubuntu updated ?
[15:37] <godzirra>  MattJ and I've no idae why :/
[15:37] <soundray> JordiGH: fine, your loss
[15:38] <broken_> akincer: sorry I must be on something this morning.. probably lack of sleep, I was typing it in screen >.<
[15:38] <akincer> broken: it will be the very first time Section "Monitor" appears
[15:38] <MattJ> godzirra: I use .bashrc, don't know about _profile
[15:38] <ganeshhegde> I hav gcc installed how to compile a c++ program?
[15:38] <grindcore> can someone give me couple of answers about install ubuntu 7.10 on private chat?
[15:38] <erUSUL> !pm
[15:38] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[15:38] <JordiGH> ganeshhegde: Is this a programe you wrote yourself?
[15:39] <godzirra> hrm.
[15:39] <WinterWeaver> I cannot connect to the router on my network. the Page just keeps loading, but nothing shows. Please help
[15:39] <JordiGH> ganeshhegde: In general, for C++ you'll need the g++ package which, technically, yes, is part of gcc.
[15:39] <MattJ> godzirra: Maybe an error in the script?
[15:39] <MattJ> godzirra: Permissions not right?
[15:39] <akincer> broken: did that fix it?
[15:40] <broken_> akincer: startx, and it worked fine, shoudl I be worried that I do have the otpion for higher then 60hz in the screen resolution options?
[15:40] <ganeshhegde>  JordiGH:ok...i wrote it in turbo c....need to compile in linux platform
[15:40] <broken_> akincer: but other then that it worked.
[15:40] <broken_> I haveto reboot to see if I get a load up screen.
[15:40] <JordiGH> ganeshhegde: Did you use standard C++?
[15:40] <akincer> broken: I always trust the documentation and not what options I'm given in the OS
[15:40] <JordiGH> ganeshhegde: E.g. none of this #include <conio.h> crap? :-)
[15:40] <aluno> d[
[15:41] <aluno> hshjkjf;klf;siufiuf bfufũf9]] 8]0w980  u ew
[15:41] <aluno>  fuyfew ar7t yer JHF
[15:41] <aluno> NFK;HI]IU98LLLÇUFW
[15:41] <Pici> aluno: stop
[15:41] <aluno> IUSD~WS9809QOW 0IFD SOEI
[15:41] <kuta> any syn program like in Mac OSX syn?
[15:41] <aluno> KJULIOŚOE
[15:41] <aluno> OLA
[15:41] <aluno> JHCADJ
[15:41] <dgjones> !ops | aluno
[15:41] <ubotu> aluno: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[15:42] <broken_> akincer: no, analog out of range ....
[15:42]  * broken_ sighs
[15:42] <JordiGH> kuta: What is syn? What does it do?
[15:42] <kuta> is there a sync program for me to connect my motorola V3 to backup contact?
[15:42] <brobostigon> svn
[15:43] <broken_> akincer: would you know why that is occuring still?
[15:43] <broken_> I will try my dvi-d cable now see if that changes.
[15:43] <kuta> how to backup handphone contact using a usb cable?
[15:44] <JordiGH> Great, ntfs-config isn't actually doing anything and my ntfs partition still isn't mounted. :-/
[15:44] <ganeshhegde> JordiGH:I used it...#include<conio.h>
[15:45] <akincer> broken: Under monitor, do you have any modeline settings? For example
[15:45] <JordiGH> ganeshhegde: That's not standard C++. It won't compile under a GNU system.
[15:45] <akincer> modeline  "1024x768@75" 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
[15:45] <Inuyasha32246> if you need help with gnome, xorg, or ati give me an external, aim=surfjdh
[15:45] <kuta> is there a iSybc like in OSX for ubuntu?
[15:45] <ganeshhegde> JordiGH:then what should i do?how co compile?
[15:45] <JordiGH> ganeshhegde: If your code is short, paste it somewhere. I can help you figure out what parts of your code aren't standard C++ and thus won't compile.
[15:46] <JordiGH> ganeshhegde: You'll have to modify your code.
[15:46] <broken_> akincer: no
[15:46] <soundray> kuta: search in synaptic for "motorola phone" and you'll see a few relevant packages
[15:46] <ganeshhegde> ya i ll pestbin it
[15:46] <akincer> broken: I think that might be part of your issue. What res are you wanting to operate at?
[15:46] <Inuyasha32246> ok josh is trying to fix his sound
[15:46] <Inuyasha32246> im back beyatches
[15:46] <broken_> 75 hz if it is possible akincer
[15:47] <akincer> broken: No, I mean 1024x768 ...
[15:47] <ushaba> is it possible to alter the desktop menus in gnome the way one can in kde?
[15:47] <broken_> Ugh i'm so irritated, I plug in this dvi-d cable and it gives me no signal either.
[15:47] <broken_> akincer: 1400x900
[15:47] <ushaba> basically making middle-click the desktop menu and right click an applications menu?
[15:48] <JordiGH> Ah, ntfs-config worked now. But it wouldn't let me mount wherever I wanted.
[15:49] <akincer> broken: I'm trying to figure out how to construct that modeline for you
[15:49] <ganeshhegde> JordiGH: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44745/
[15:49] <broken_> akincer: much appreciated
[15:49] <kuta> any opensource for ubuntu to create flash?
[15:50] <ushaba> any gnome gurus here?
[15:50] <saul1> ola
[15:50] <JordiGH> kuta: Flash isn't open source, so no.
[15:50] <o00w> what does "install: missing destination file operand after " mean?
[15:50] <JordiGH> kuta: The format itself, I mean.
[15:50] <Inuyasha32246> right here ushaba
[15:50] <ushaba> ok, inuyasha
[15:50] <kuta> thanks
[15:50] <mavi-> there is opensource flash players
[15:50] <JordiGH> ganeshhegde: Wow, you're using some very pre-standard C++. #include <iostream.h> is waaaay deprecated.
[15:50] <mavi-> but no creators
[15:50] <ushaba> i just have a question about editing the desktop menu
[15:50] <Inuyasha32246> ok
[15:51] <kuta> but I need to create flash
[15:51] <ushaba> i want to make the right click raise an applications menu
[15:51] <JordiGH> kuta: Then perhpas you'd like to help the people who are reverse engineering flash.
[15:51] <ushaba> and the middle be the original desktop menu if possible
[15:51] <Inuyasha32246> hrm
[15:51] <Inuyasha32246> lets see
[15:51] <ushaba> is this a nautilus script problem?
[15:51] <ushaba> or is there an easier way to accomplish this?
[15:51] <kuta> jordiGH: what u mean?
[15:51] <Inuyasha32246> oh theres an easier way
[15:52] <ushaba> i basically want it to work like fluxbox or even kde does
[15:52] <JordiGH> kuta: Reverse engineer flash. Help us write a flash creator. For this, we have to first figure out how flash works, since Adobe won't tell us.
[15:52] <broken_> On a side note, is there a way to monitor cpu temps with ubuntu? A nice gui progrm
[15:52] <Paddy_EIRE>       kuta there is no alternative to flash professional on linux
[15:52] <ushaba> inuyasha?
[15:53] <Aw0L> anyone know how to install a package with support for something specific?  like nmap with or without X support?
[15:53] <soundray> ushaba: gnome isn't very customization-friendly like that.
[15:53] <soundray> broken_: use mbmon. You can run it from a script and use zenity to create GUI output.
[15:53] <ushaba> soundray: i've noticed
[15:54] <mavi-> JordiGH: there is open source flash programs
[15:54] <ushaba> this is the only big problem i have with gnome though
[15:54] <Pici> Aw0L: nmap doesnt have X support...
[15:54] <Paddy_EIRE> ushaba, perhaps you should try xfce?
[15:54] <JordiGH> mavi-: Which are not yet complete.
[15:54] <ushaba> everything else is decent and reliable, and chinese works fine
[15:54] <JordiGH> mavi-: And like you said, only players.
[15:54] <ushaba> last time i used xfce, applications would mysteriously die constnatly and had to be killed from the terminal
[15:54] <ushaba> that was last year, maybe it's better now
[15:54] <ganeshhegde> JordiGH:then which is d standard 1?can u help in compiling this?
[15:54]  * Rabiddog bbl, gotta goto work
[15:54] <mavi-> JordiGH: there is several projects developing IDEs for creating them to
[15:54] <mavi-> no need to reverse-engineer anything
[15:55] <Aw0L> Pici, no nmap gui in ubuntu huh?  Well, what I really want is rsync with acl support...how can you specify this is ubuntu/debian?
[15:55] <JordiGH> mavi-: Flash isn't completely reverse engineered yet, is it?
[15:55] <Paddy_EIRE> no its not JordiGH
[15:55] <JordiGH> mavi-: I thought the Gnash people still had issues figuring out parts of Flash 9.
[15:55] <soundray> ushaba: is using the logo keys an option?
[15:55] <ushaba> logo keys?
[15:55] <JordiGH> kuta: Btw, you may want to take a look at Processing. It isn't exactly flash, but it's close.
[15:55] <ushaba> the so-called windows keys?
[15:55] <akincer> broken: modeline  "1440x900" 105.75 1440 1488 1520 1600 900 903 909 931 +HSync -Vsync
[15:55] <Pici> Aw0L: if thats not how the rsync package was compiled, then you'll have to compile it from source.
[15:56] <akincer> broken: try that. I'm not convinced it will work
[15:56] <soundray> ushaba: between Ctrl and Alt in my case, and there's one showing a menu pictogram on the right as well
[15:56] <JordiGH> kuta: Processing is based on Java which isn't free yet, but it's a lot closer to being free than Flash is.
[15:56] <ushaba> yeah, it's a think pad
[15:56] <ushaba> haha
[15:57] <Aw0L> Pici, ok, thanks
[15:57] <Isolder> i have just installed ubuntu server for the first time and i am totally unsure what's up
[15:57] <JordiGH> ganeshhegde: I'm not sure if it's worth it. Basically, you should be doing #include <iostream> instead of #include <iostream.h> and #include <cstdlib> instead of #include<stdlib.h>
[15:57] <Pici> JordiGH: Saying that processing is close to flash is a bit of a stretch imo.
[15:57] <ushaba> there must be some text file somewhere in gnome where i can tell it to listen to me
[15:57] <ushaba> it can launch the debian menu for all i care
[15:57] <Isolder> Am I supposed to have sudo access with the initial user I set up during server install?
[15:57] <JordiGH> Pici: It's for writing interactive web apps. ;-)
[15:57] <Inuyasha32246> yeah
[15:58] <Pici> JordiGH: Yes, I've made a few things in processing.
[15:58] <akincer> broken: Did that work?
[15:58] <Inuyasha32246> well, I tried a script bind, but gnomes all mighty main menu kicked itd arse
[15:58] <Inuyasha32246> sorry
[15:58] <JordiGH> ganeshhegde: Then you'll need some namespace declarations.
[15:58] <ushaba> hmm
[15:58] <xeer> hi. when i startx i get the X and the tiled background, that's it though. what could cause it to not load all the way?
[15:59] <Inuyasha32246> sorry all I fail, Ill be back on later, ushaba I am actually interested in trying this now, so im me at surfjdh=AIM
[15:59] <JordiGH> xeer: Your .xsession, perhaps?
[15:59] <ushaba> surfjdh?
[15:59] <Inuyasha32246> im stepping out for a smoke
[15:59] <Inuyasha32246> thats my screen name
[16:00] <Isolder> What would cause me to not have sudo access on a fresh server install? that can't be default.. otherwise I'd be unable to do anything?
[16:00] <soundray> Isolder: is your user member of the admin group?
[16:00] <xeer> JordiGH, i don't receive an error or any kind of prompt
[16:01] <Isolder> I don't know.. I think the server install said the user would not have administrative privileges
[16:01] <Isolder> I'm confused how I could set up anything ifi'm not admin though
[16:01] <JordiGH> xeer: Do you have Gnome/KDE/Xfce installed?
[16:01] <WinterWeaver> I cannot connect to the router on my network. the Page just keeps loading, but nothing shows. Please help
[16:01] <soundray> Isolder: let's just verify that: run 'groups' and see if 'admin' is listed
[16:01] <xeer> JordiGH, yes i have Gnome installed
[16:01] <Isolder> I tried reading the documentation.. but I guess I can't find where it says anything about a server install. everything seems gui
[16:01] <Isolder> k
[16:01] <Isolder> brb
[16:02] <ganeshhegde> JordiGH:which r those?
[16:02] <azizi> meknes
[16:02] <JordiGH> ganeshhegde: I'm not sure about ctype.h What does that do?
[16:02] <Isolder> no, I am not in the admin group
[16:02] <idefix_> how can you invite search bots to your site?
[16:02] <JordiGH> ganeshhegde: I recommend you move this discussion to ##c++ They'll be able to tell you more about how to make your code standard and thus compilable on a GNU system or, theoretically, on any system.
[16:03] <soundray> Isolder: to fix this, you can reboot in recovery mode (grub menu option) and run 'adduser username admin'
[16:03] <ganeshhegde> JordiGH:ya ....thank u wery much....
[16:03] <soundray> Isolder: did you only create the one user during install?
[16:03] <sacul> HOLA, hay alguien que habla español ????????????????????
[16:03] <idefix_> soundray, you can find my FT-report on my site
[16:03] <broken_> akincer: got my dvi-d working and its fine now, it doesn't have teh sync issues just nothing to see for about 10 seconds until ubuntu loads.
[16:03] <soundray> !es | sacul
[16:03] <ubotu> sacul: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[16:03] <Isolder> Yeah I only created the one user during install. that's all the option it gave me
[16:03] <xeer> JordiGH, is it that X is in a deadlock? is there a log i can view?
[16:03] <hypa7ia> i'm having some trouble with i think compiz, getting multiple keypress events being recieved when there should be only one
[16:04] <Isolder> Is that the only way to get server up and running every time? reboot and go through the recovery process?
[16:04] <JordiGH> xeer: Have you logged in from gdm already?
[16:04] <soundray> Isolder: no, once will fix it.
[16:04] <Isolder> yeah, but do you always have to do it once on a fresh install?
[16:04] <akincer> broken: that's great! did any of those settings prove fruitful?
[16:04] <soundray> Isolder: after that, you'll be able to use sudo
[16:04] <Isolder> seems odd
[16:04] <broken_> akincer: i believe so
[16:04] <broken_> thanks :)
[16:04] <xeer> JordiGH, yes i've logged in through gdm and it seems to just stall
[16:05] <soundray> Isolder: no, somehow you've created a non-default install in that respect.
[16:05] <akincer> broken: no problem. just spread the love. pay it forward
[16:05] <JordiGH> xeer: See if there are any clues in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, near the bottom.
[16:05] <broken_> heh )
[16:05] <Isolder> that's odd.. i did everything it said step by step in the installation
[16:05] <Ax-Ax> If I have a Ubuntu install and a FAT32 partition, can I install Windows 98SE on it without killing my other partitions?
[16:05] <Isolder> i think i'll rerun the install to see if it somehow skipped the admin user..
[16:05] <soundray> Isolder: odder things have been known to happen.
[16:06] <hypa7ia> Ax-Ax: the windows install would kill your mbr, but you can just re-fix that with a livecd
[16:06] <Isolder> So does it initially set up an admin pass and a non admin user?
[16:06] <Isolder> if it goes right, i mean
[16:06] <Paddy_EIRE> Ax-Ax, 1 sec.. I'll get you a guide
[16:06] <soundray> Ax-Ax: remember, we're not Windows experts here. Most of us, at least.
[16:06] <Ax-Ax> hypa7ia, Does it touch my ubuntu partitions?
[16:06] <hypa7ia> Ax-Ax: it shouldn't
[16:07] <Isolder> you should have a really good reason to install 98se.. in the first place
[16:07] <hypa7ia> Isolder: lol, true
[16:07] <soundray> Isolder: no, normally it sets up one user and adds that to the admin group automatically
[16:07] <Isolder> i see... very odd..  i am pretty sure it specificallys said the user wouldn't be admin.. oh well. i'll run the install again and see what happens
[16:07] <Isolder> thanks for your help
[16:08] <Paddy_EIRE> Ax-Ax, just adapt this guide to 98se http://apcmag.com/5459/dualboot_ubuntu_and_windows_xp
[16:08] <Ax-Ax> Isolder, 98 is the best version of windows
[16:08] <Paddy_EIRE> 2000 imo
[16:09] <Ax-Ax> Paddy_EIRE, Does the 98 installer work the same way?
[16:09] <soundray> emacs22 always shows the welcome screen first instead of the file I open -- annoying. Is there an easy way to turn that off?
[16:09] <Isolder> 98 is the best version of windows?
[16:09] <Isolder> you haven't used windows in 10 years?
[16:09] <hypa7ia> Ax-Ax: if by "very best" you mean "completely unsupported and not security-patched in 5 years
[16:10] <Paddy_EIRE> Ax-Ax, there should really only be a few subtle differences.. otherwise come back here if you have any trouble
[16:10] <Isolder> seriously.. 98 is not even close to a good version anymore
[16:10] <Paddy_EIRE> Isolder, best version of windows is the version that you dont run
[16:10] <Paddy_EIRE> ;)
[16:10] <hypa7ia> Ax-Ax: lots of software won't even run on it anymore
[16:10] <hypa7ia> Paddy_EIRE: true!
[16:10] <Paddy_EIRE> Isolder, or 2000 pro at a push
[16:11] <souped> any advice on setting up an xp/ubuntu dual boot?
[16:11] <Ax-Ax> hypa7ia, Isolder, I only want to run some programs, that doesn't even work on XP.
[16:11] <Isolder> ax.. like what?
[16:11] <Paddy_EIRE> souped, http://apcmag.com/node/5162/
[16:11] <soundray> !dualboot > souped, please read ubotu's private message
[16:11] <Isolder> yo'ure putting the internet at risk by running 98se. and that's the truth ^_^
[16:11] <Ax-Ax> Isolder, reeeal old games
[16:11] <soundray> souped: if you already have XP, it's easy. Just let the installer resize the XP partition.
[16:12] <aricz> Ax-Ax, like? you have w9x-"emu" in winxp
[16:12] <Isolder> you'd be better off running vmware
[16:12] <Isolder> and indeed, xp can run most any 98 apps in compatibility with no trouble
[16:12] <aricz> yups
[16:12] <fifafrazer> I have a very odd issue with a network printer. The printer is an old Minolta CF910 color laser printer/copier with a Fiery X2 printer server. I can easily print to using WinXP, but I have some problems using CUPS. I've tried with Samba, IPP and LPD protocols. LPD 'almost' works. I can send documents to the printer, and in the printer's web spooler application, I notice some action in the RIP queue, but the document is never send
[16:12] <fifafrazer>  to the print queue, and nothing happens... I'm using the CUPS daemon.
[16:12] <Ax-Ax> aricz, isolder: I WANT 98 anyway :(
[16:12] <aricz> tsss.. you stubborn you.. ;) good luck
[16:13] <Isolder> well
[16:14] <dmi3on> hi, i have shared folder in windows vista and i can't makelink of this folder
[16:14] <Isolder> don't user the net on that 98 install then.. it's a bad idea and a security risk that affects others than just you
[16:14] <aricz> affects others?
[16:14] <souped> so comments on ubuntu vs kubuntu vs xubuntu for dual boot for web development?
[16:15] <dmi3on> if i try to move to desktop its just copy folder
[16:15] <Isolder> yes, affects others
[16:15] <soundray> souped: install ubuntu, then add the kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop packages. Then you can compare them all side-by-side
[16:15] <hypa7ia> Ax-Ax: if they are that old, have you looked at dosbox? i've found really old games often run better on that
[16:15] <aricz> do I really have to add a "how?"
[16:15] <Ax-Ax> Isolder: If i get viruses, only Windows users get them from me
[16:15] <aricz> :]
[16:15] <Isolder> a 98 machine could easily be compromised and used to perform malicious actions against other networks
[16:16] <soundray> Ax-Ax: what about spam?
[16:16] <Isolder> those networks could also be running linux boxes
[16:16] <Isolder> so it won't just affect windows users
[16:16] <fifafrazer> souped, ubuntu vs kubuntu vs xubuntu depends on what desktop environment you prefer
[16:16] <soundray> Isolder: is Windows MR any better in that respect?
[16:16] <Ax-Ax> soundray, what about not using mail?
[16:16] <Isolder> Me, you mean?
[16:16] <souped> fifafrazer: i guess kde for development
[16:16] <soundray> Ax-Ax: doesn't help, if your machine is subsumed into a botnet
[16:17] <fifafrazer> souped, Then it must be kubuntu :)
[16:17] <souped> fifafrazer: and gnome for home
[16:17] <fifafrazer> I prefer xfce4 for both
[16:17] <soundray> Isolder: indeed, I mean ME ;)
[16:17] <PHuber> hey there -  i just upgraded to gutsy and have a question to compiz: ( i dont know how the effect is called .. when u move the cursor to the right upper corner and all opend windows are "fly" next to each other an u can pick one to work with )  ... how is this called and how can i deactivate this or change the corner .. its VERY annoying because its very close to the close buttons..
[16:17] <Isolder> you put a 98 machine on an open network, and chances are it will be ruined by the end of the day.. unless you're very lucky
[16:17] <nibsa1242> Hi, I have a problem on my laptop. If I don't use it for a while, (and I have suspend & hibernate turned off) my keyboard stops responding. This seems to happen more often (or only) if I close the screen and its idle long enough for the screensaver to come on, but it still happens if I turn screensaver off. My mouse/touchpad still works when this occurs. Any help?
[16:17] <Isolder> and yeah i'd say ME is just as bad
[16:18] <souped> fifafrazer: what about xubuntu, would it take up less space on a dual boot situation?
[16:18] <Paddy_EIRE> PHuber, err.. move the close button
[16:18] <Paddy_EIRE> PHuber, the effect is called 'Scale' by the way
[16:18] <Ax-Ax> Isolder: I'm on a little LAN with some safety
[16:18] <soundray> Isolder: okay, I'll keep it in mind (got an old ME laptop that I sometimes use for serial devices)
[16:19] <Isolder> soundray: installing the server again and i dont think it's going to give me admin privileges, this isn uts
[16:19] <zechs> Hi all--is there something like 'gnome-dock' that is both available and working?
[16:19] <soundray> Isolder: what's your install source? Ubuntu Server CD?
[16:19] <PHuber> Paddy_EIRE .. hmm, dont what about " move the close corner"... but thx, ich will serch for this effect
[16:19] <Paddy_EIRE> zechs, gnome-dock is both available and working
[16:19] <Ax-Ax> Isolder: there is viruses for Linux too
[16:19] <fifafrazer> souped, I think it would use less space, but I'm not sure... You could pick the alternative disk and do a minimum install. That would use less space :)
[16:19] <Isolder> yeah.. i downloaded the 7.10  server image yesterday
[16:19] <nibsa1242> soundray: you can get a usb-> to serial adapter if you want to use those devices with XP... and possibly Linux
[16:19] <soundray> Ax-Ax: yeah, in laboratories
[16:19] <souped> ok kubuntu it is
[16:20] <fifafrazer> I prefer xfce over gnome, because it has almost the same functionality, but is faster. I dont like the KDE look and feel, but I dont know for what reason :P
[16:20] <nibsa1242> I need help with fixing an issue where my keyboard doesn't respond to any key presses if I leave my laptop idle for >2hrs or so.
[16:20] <soundray> nibsa1242: I know -- but a Thinkpad 240 is a really nice machine. The Asus Eee may be the first real competitor ;)
[16:20] <Paddy_EIRE> PHuber, err lol.. I did not say to move the corner... move the button.. you do know you can put it anywhere
[16:21] <souped> fifafrazer: kde has the kio that seems to integrate with the file manager...
[16:21] <soundray> Isolder: I'll quickly check launchpad for reports...
[16:21] <dmi3on> when i try to make "link here' the shared folder which is in windows, its says "error unsupported operation"
[16:21] <dmi3on> can any one help plz
[16:21] <narothepharoh> how do i open a 7zr package?
[16:21] <Paddy_EIRE> PHuber, also you can use System> Preferences > appearance to access the compiz-fusion control center... from there you can change which corner scale works on
[16:22] <nibsa1242> soundray: don't know about that particular model, but every Thinkpad I've ever used has been a nice solid machine... haven't used one in a few years though
[16:22] <souped> fifafrazer: so i can open up an ftp site from kdevelop
[16:22] <Tomcat_> dmi3on: Windows partitions don't support links.
[16:22] <jimjam> What do I use to run an M3U playlist?
[16:22] <Isolder> ax-ax: a little lan or no little lan it's irresponsible to so blatantly disregard better security practices
[16:22] <Tomcat_> jimjam: Most music players can read it... rhythmbox, amarok, xmms, bmp
[16:22] <aricz> Ax-Ax , install w98se and surf pr0n for 1 hour.. you'll understand.. \:D/
[16:22] <jimjam> Tomcat_ Good to know. Thanks
[16:22] <souped> so looking at the iso... what is alternate vs desktop
[16:23] <Tomcat_> souped: Alternate is a text-only installer-only disc
[16:23] <dmi3on> Tomcat_: i have to make in linux folder and shere it with other com. ?
[16:23] <PHuber> Paddy_EIRE thx, it worked. just changed the corner -> now it should be fine
[16:23] <Tomcat_> souped: desktop is a LiveCD with GUI installer.
[16:23] <narothepharoh> how do i open a 7-zip archive?
[16:23] <PHuber> bye+
[16:23] <Tomcat_> dmi3on: No idea what you want to do, sorry.
[16:23] <soundray> Isolder: it's been reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/158952  -- could you please add a comment confirming it?
[16:23] <souped> thanks
[16:23] <jimjam> Tomcat_ Do you know if there's any way to import iTunes playlists?
[16:24] <Tomcat_> jimjam: No idea.
[16:24] <Isolder> sure, i'll get an account made and do that soundray
[16:24] <Isolder> thanks for looking for me
[16:24] <jimjam> Tomcat_ Darn. Thanks anyways.
[16:24] <Tomcat_> jimjam: But from experience I'd say both rhythmbox as well as amarok support it.
[16:24] <dmi3on> Tomcat_: i what share files betwwen win and ubuntu, and have this folder on ubuntu desktop
[16:24] <soundray> Isolder: great, thank you
[16:24] <Tomcat_> dmi3on: Go on.
[16:25] <Tomcat_> dmi3on: Need to go though... but I guess somebody else can help you if you tell more.
[16:25] <soundray> Isolder: did you test the workaround I suggested?
[16:25] <soundray> Isolder: the report mentions fixing /etc/sudoers, which shouldn't be necessary IMO
[16:25] <jatt> updating dapper fails with
[16:25] <jatt> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbfs_3.0.22-1ubuntu3.4_i386.deb 403 Forbidden
[16:26] <Isolder> i haven't tested the workaround yet, install is still finishing up
[16:26] <Isolder> i'm sur eit will work though
[16:26] <dmi3on> Tomcat_: if i can make link  windows shared folder on desktop, then i can make on desktop folder in ubuntu and share it with windows  ?
[16:26] <Isolder> and yeah.. it's a ridiculous step
[16:26] <Varka> !envy
[16:26] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[16:26] <soundray> jatt: what a pain. Please report a bug.
[16:26] <Andycasss> Is there a command to view all wireless networks?
[16:27] <fifafrazer> The alternate disc provides more install options, doesn't it? Like a minimum install option?
[16:27] <jakelfenix> hello to all
[16:27] <harveyd> is there a way for cp to just create a directory if im trying to copy into one that doesnt exist
[16:27] <harveyd> i tried -f but it didnt work
[16:27] <soundray> Andycasss: 'iwlist wlan0 scan' or 'iwlist wlan0 ap' (substitute wlan0 with your wifi devicename)
[16:28] <jakelfenix> some to install cell sdk on ubuntu?
[16:28] <soundray> Andycasss: interface name, rather
[16:28] <dmi3on> Tomcat_: if i cant make link with windows shared folder on desktop, then can i make on desktop folder in ubuntu and share it with windows  ?
[16:28] <Andycasss> soundray: Thanks!!
[16:28] <soundray> Andycasss: you may need to use sudo
[16:29] <jatt> is that a bug?
[16:29] <_delirium> something keeps consuming all my hard disk space - i think it might be trackerd - where does trackerd keep its index files?
[16:29] <jatt> the server is not working
[16:29] <jatt> sort of
[16:30] <soundray> jatt: it certainly is -- the parent directory opens fine
[16:30] <Isolder> check somewhere in /var/log
[16:30] <jakelfenix> help please!
[16:30] <Isolder> that might have the trackerd stuff
[16:31] <nibsa1242> My keyboard seems to stop responding after a variable amount of time of leaving Ubuntu idle. Anyone have any ideas how to fix? Only thing that seems to work is to use mouse to restart.
[16:31] <nibsa1242> /var/log can fill up if you have something that likes to report errors constantly, had an issue with that and a buggy sd card reader... computer refused to boot
[16:32] <rishabh> Anyone know anything about "UMAX Astra 4100" scanner drivers?
[16:32] <soundray> !who | nibsa1242
[16:32] <ubotu> nibsa1242: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[16:32] <graulich> Inuyasha32246, the gnome sound thingo didn't really disable esd... it says it did but the problem is the same and there's still a tartup sound.
[16:32] <Isolder> i once was running a copy of webdna that was supposed to store sent mails.. and i mistakingly removed the permissions from the folder for that that would keep the sent mail
[16:32] <Isolder> it started resending the mail every second to try and get the emails through.. resulted in many spammed users
[16:32] <Isolder> sad day.. it was..
[16:33] <soundray> rishabh: first thing to check is the compatibility list on http://www.sane-project.org/
[16:33] <dmi3on> can any one help me how can i share folder between ubuntu and windows and have this folder on desktop in ubuntu
[16:33] <dmi3on> plz
[16:33] <rishabh> soundray: it's "unsupported"
[16:33] <soundray> rishabh: that's bad news I'm afraid
[16:34] <TomFar_> hey you are all doooooods???
[16:34] <rishabh> soundray: There's no other place where you can get drivers?
[16:34] <mrmonday> Is there likely to be an update in pidgin to fix the security vulnerability in the repos?
[16:34] <soundray> dmi3on: in Windows, install ext2fsd -- then you can mount and use your entire Ubuntu partition
[16:35] <dmi3on> ok
[16:35] <soundray> rishabh: not that I know of. People who write free scanner drivers tend to contribute their code to the SANE project
[16:35] <arthur_kalm> does _anyone_ know how to get the bloody D-Link DWL-G122 Rev: A2 to work in Gutsy. It's a nightmare :(
[16:35] <narothepharoh> how do i open a 7-zip archive?
[16:35] <nibsa1242> dmi3on: soundray: and then when window's crashes you'll have to fsck your entire ubuntu partition
[16:36] <soundray> !7zip | narothepharoh
[16:36] <ubotu> narothepharoh: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[16:36] <soundray> nibsa1242: yes -- dmi3on, best to mount the Ubuntu partition when needed, and unmount it afterwards.
[16:36] <stefg> arthur_kalm: if it worked in feisty you might consider going back to it.... gutsy has some bad regressions
[16:37] <nibsa1242> Any one have any idea what log file to look in (and what to search for) to try to figure out why my keyboard stops responding after my laptop sits idle for about two hours or so.
[16:37] <arthur_kalm> stefg, hrm, yeah it did work in Feisty. And Gutsy did indeed screw several things up. I'll go look for the Feisty ISO then...
[16:38] <arthur_kalm> stefg, thanks
[16:38] <desertc> Anyone looked at or own the Walmart gOS machine?  I wonder what they are doing for support.
[16:38] <RemoteViewer> jatt: samba dapper security update is broken, so this is intentional
[16:38] <RemoteViewer> jatt: https://launchpad.net/bugs/163042
[16:38] <franz1789> does xfce use gconf?
[16:38] <stefg> arthur_kalm: wise decision. if you want compiz fusion i think amaranth has backports for it
[16:38] <_delirium> no worries - its ~/.cache/tracker
[16:38] <megasquid> i'm installing a binary version of software, where's the best location to install the software?
[16:39] <arthur_kalm> stefg, naw, it's my bosses computer. I don't think he has anything except an onboard video card
[16:39] <arthur_kalm> megasquid, is it a deb?
[16:39] <jatt> RemoteViewer: oh I see so it was blocked. Thanks! I will try to upgrade the non-samba related packages then
[16:40] <franz1789> sure xfce does not use gconf?
[16:40] <narothepharoh> ubotu thank you
[16:40] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[16:40] <megasquid> arthur_kalm, its a tar file with a binary
[16:40] <megasquid> its not a package
[16:40] <arthur_kalm> megasquid, well the choice is really yours but I believe the standard is into /usr/local/bin
[16:40] <soundray> megasquid: I tend to put stuff like that under /usr/local. FHS also suggests /opt
[16:41] <bloony> anyone know about any good program to fix id3 tags on mp3 files?
[16:41] <arthur_kalm> megasquid, if it needs to be compiled, then it'll install where it needs to
[16:41] <soundray> !info exfalso | bloony
[16:41] <ubotu> bloony: exfalso: audio tag editor for GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 516 kB, installed size 2152 kB
[16:41] <megasquid> arthur_kalm, its already compiled
[16:41] <arthur_kalm> megasquid, so /usr/local/bin :P
[16:41] <soundray> bloony: that's just my choice -- there are several tag editors
[16:41] <bloony> soundray: thx
[16:41] <bloony> soundray: is it with a gui or is it terminal based?
[16:41] <megasquid> arthur_kalm, what about the supporting files?
[16:42] <soundray> bloony: gui
[16:42] <bloony> k
[16:42] <bloony> sweet
[16:42] <rishabh> soundray: I downloaded the CVS, which seems to have a little bit of driver code. But it
[16:42] <aoupi_> my sound worked last week, but now I've played around with sound settings everywhere and it's not working, how can I reset all sound preferences?
[16:42] <rishabh> soundray: it's not making properly
[16:42] <desertc> aoupi_: It's probably muted.
[16:42] <arthur_kalm> megasquid, oh it has supporting files? hrm. Well in that case do as soundray said. I usually make a new directory in /usr/local and shove everything in there
[16:42] <soundray> rishabh: I take it you've installed the build-essential package?
[16:43] <rishabh> soundray: certainly
[16:43] <jimjam> Ack! I think aMule is being firewalled. How can I get downloads working?
[16:43] <desertc> aoupi_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/156930
[16:43] <megasquid> arthur_kalm, ok thanks
[16:43] <arthur_kalm> megasquid, you can then make a link to the programs executable in /usr/local/bin so it'll be in your PATH, or just add it to your PATH
[16:43] <arthur_kalm> megasquid, no problem
[16:43] <harveyd> samson, sorry to be annoying, but can that command be easily changed to not cd
[16:43] <desertc> jimjam: don't use emule?
[16:43] <soundray> rishabh: I don't know then, but the developers might be interested in your feedback
[16:43] <jimjam> desertc: It happens with bt too.
[16:43] <arthur_kalm> megasquid, but really, it's up to you. As long as you put it in your PATH, it makes no difference
[16:43] <soundray> rishabh: they usually put an email address in the README file
[16:43] <rishabh> soundray: epkowa.desc: Warning: Backend `epkowa': 8 USB devices without :usbid      viceo.desc: Warning: Backend `viceo': 1 USB devices without :usbid    brother2.desc: Warning: Backend `brother2': 10 USB devices without :usbid
[16:44] <deejoe> Err http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main smbclient 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.4 403 Forbidden
[16:44] <deejoe> wft?
[16:44] <aoupi_> desertc: no, I've checked that, it's more screwed up than that :)
[16:44] <deejoe> also, wtf? ;-)
[16:44] <soundray> rishabh: this doesn't tell me anything, and you shouldn't paste here anyway
[16:44] <gambakufu> hi
[16:45] <bloony> anyone know about a torrent program where you can set a time where it should start download.. or where you can set it to change to a different max speed at a certain time? I got a cap'ed connection and got offpeak period at night, but I normaly go tobed befor that starts
[16:45] <gambakufu> where can the name of the wireless device in my computer? (company/product/version) and so on...
[16:45] <SmarK> hi there :)
[16:45] <brobostigon> lspci/lsusb
[16:45] <rishabh> soundray: There's some new feature in the "bullet proof X" that allows you to install graphics drivers on Ubuntu using the Windows driver CD. Apparently it extracts meaningful data from the .INF file. Shouldn't that be possible for a scanner, too?
[16:45] <desertc> aoupi_: What's aplay -l  tell you?
[16:45] <soundray> deejoe: have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/163042  (and please don't use that abbreviation in here :)
[16:46] <aoupi_> desertc: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44751/
[16:46] <brobostigon> gambakufu: lspci/lsusb
[16:46] <desertc> aoupi_: I bet it's muted.
[16:46] <deejoe> soundray: thanks
[16:47] <aoupi_> desertc: it's not muted
[16:47] <desertc> aoupi_: That's what everyone says.
[16:47] <gambakufu> hmm
[16:47] <desertc> aoupi_: Just before they say it's muted.
[16:47] <stefg> bloony: imho azureus can do that, or has a plugin for that. another option would be a combination of a cli torrent program like rttorrent with cron
[16:47] <gambakufu> I can't see anything that qualifies as wireless...
[16:47] <soundray> rishabh: in principle, why not? It's just that Windows graphics drivers interface with TWAIN, which I believe is proprietary. So it might be an uphill battle developing a wrapper.
[16:47] <brobostigon> ganbakufu: ifconfig/ iwconfig
[16:48] <Isolder> soundray: i'm now trying to recover and i think i may have been wrong
[16:48] <desertc> aoupi_: Your device is fine, and ALSA sees it, so the problem is between the Linux device and, well, you.
[16:48] <Isolder> soundray: i'm reading the group file and it shows adm: redone
[16:48] <Isolder> i had initially been looking for the admin group
[16:48] <Isolder> but adm is actaully admin isn't it?
[16:48] <brobostigon> gambakufu: try dmesg
[16:48] <soundray> Isolder: no, adm != admin
[16:48] <Isolder> I didn't think so but this help page is showing it is.. anyhow.. ok
[16:49] <Isolder> in the group file there is *no* admin group at al
[16:49] <damip> hello,
[16:49] <damip> I have an USB <-> serial adapter and I'm not able to read data from it.
[16:49] <damip> My program is running as root and uses open("/dev/ttyUSB0") as read/write and then read(), asynchronously
[16:49] <damip> open() works, parameter settings too
[16:49] <damip> but read returns -1 with errno to EAGAIN.
[16:49] <damip> can you give a piece of advice please ?
[16:49] <gambakufu> brobostigon: that shows me the wireless connection, but no info on the device
[16:49] <deejoe> oh, haha.
[16:49] <deejoe> I did an aptitude forget-new to see if I could get the bad samba stuff out of my package list
[16:49] <aoupi_> desertc: it's not muted thou http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44754/
[16:49] <soundray> rishabh: also, it's always worth ringing up the manufacturer's support hotline and asking for a Linux driver. They probably won't give you one, but it's a good thing if they know that there is demand.
[16:50] <desertc> aoupi_: Turn everything up like my link said
[16:50] <desertc> aoupi_: Follow my instructions and let me know how it goes
[16:50] <aoupi_> desertc: I tried that, but I don't wanna go deaf once it starts working :)
[16:50] <brobostigon> gambakufu, have you tried hardware info in system/prefs
[16:50] <deejoe> I guess it's easier to 403 those than to remove them from the list. and by easier, I guess I mean faster.
[16:50] <desertc> aoupi_: The ringing in your ears is a reminder I was right.
[16:50] <bloony> stefg: hmm.. ok
[16:50] <desertc> aoupi_: :-D
[16:51] <aoupi_> desertc: hehe :)
[16:51] <akincer> aoupi: are these external speakers?
[16:51] <stefg> bloony: but don't use the azureus package from the repos, that's broken
[16:51] <bloony> stefg: but I have a problem with azureus.. it just crash 2 seconds after I start it
[16:51] <bloony> aah
[16:51] <stefg> bloony: but don't use the azureus package from the repos, that's broken
[16:51] <bloony> hehe yeah
[16:51] <Isolder> it would seem that the admin group itself isn't even being created
[16:51] <bloony> stefg: where do I find another version?
[16:51] <rishabh> soundray: Actually, a lot of companies, like HP, have drivers for their "MFD's" . My UMAX is pretty old and not so popular, so that's probably why no one has bothered to develop it much
[16:52] <stefg> bloony: http://azureus.sf.net
[16:52] <bloony> k
[16:52] <gambakufu> brobostigon: yes. couldn't see it there either.
[16:52] <gambakufu> http://rafb.net/p/ld0D5F39.html  perhaps I'm missing something?
[16:52] <soundray> rishabh: other UMAX scanners are supported, though. I guess they use different chipsets in different products ("OEM")
[16:53] <brobostigon> i dont know then gambakufu, iam sorry.
[16:53] <Andycasss> Why cant i use my wireless?? Ive set the options under networking administration, but when i iwconfig it says no essid and AP invalid
[16:53] <soundray> rishabh: HP is quite a good citizen, overall
[16:53] <stefg> !wifi | Andycasss
[16:53] <ubotu> Andycasss: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:54] <akincer> aoupi: Might I suggest booting with a liveCD to see if sound works in a stock environment?
[16:54] <rishabh> soundray: I should think it would be easier to just build on a standardised chipset, wouldn't it?
[16:54] <aoupi_> akincer: I'l give it a try
[16:54] <aoupi_> akincer: using headphones btw
[16:54] <rishabh> soundray: Anyway, thanks a lot for your help! I've got to leave now.
[16:54] <soundray> rishabh: I don't know, I'm not an OEM ;)
[16:55] <akincer> aoupi: Also make sure your speakers (assuming it is speakers) are actually plugged in. I beat my head against a wall troubleshooting sound for a week once only to discover that somehow, they had become unplugged
[16:55] <desertc> aoupi_: Did you turn everything up yet??
[16:55] <akincer> headphones
[16:55] <soundray> rishabh: okay, see you
[16:55] <rishabh> soundray: bye!
[16:55] <akincer> ahh
[16:55] <desertc> We need FULL POWER.
[16:55] <aoupi_> desertc: yea, up to 100%, didn't work, set everything back to 50%
[16:55] <akincer> aoupi: try the liveCD to make sure you don't have a hardware failure
[16:56] <Andycasss> how to change systems language?
[16:56] <Jimme1> I have tried enabling the mic in my SB Audigy SE, but I have absolutely no idea what to do. The options I see in the volume control include Digital Source, and Shared Mic/Line in. When recording sound I can record from inputs AUX, Phone, Microphone and Line in. I don't know what any of these is. I just want to go on Teamspeak :-P Can anyone help me?
[16:56] <desertc> 50% is okay, but you had most of your channels set to 3%, which was NOT helping.
[16:56] <aoupi_> akincer: ok, booting into livecd now, bbiaw
[16:56] <jsschmid1> hi folks
[16:56] <desertc> Jimmel: It's probably muted.
[16:56] <jsschmid1> is the current kernel version 2.6.20-16-generic
[16:56] <jsschmid1> ?
[16:56] <desertc> Jimmel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/156930
[16:56] <stefg> aoupi_: intel HD audio ?
[16:56] <Jimme1> desertc, I've unmuted everything that looks soundcapture related.
[16:57] <desertc> Jimmel: Everything means everything
[16:57] <soundray> jsschmid1: for feisty, yes
[16:57] <desertc> Jimmel: You just said you don't know what to do, so why are you choosing which channels are appropriate?
[16:57] <dmi3on> how to share folder betwwen windows and ubuntu
[16:57] <Jimme1> desertc, I can get sound from the card
[16:57] <akincer> How handy would it be to have a command that simply unmutes everything audio related?
[16:58] <stefg> !samba > dmi3on
[16:58] <Jimme1> desertc, if all of them are unmuted, then it would probably work, was my philosophy at the time
[16:58] <akincer> assuming one doesn't exist
[16:58] <soundray> dmi3on: what was wrong with my suggestion earlier?
[16:58] <desertc> Jimmel: Let's see if it works first.
[16:59] <dmi3on> soundray: nothink i will try
[16:59] <dmi3on> soundray: thnks
[16:59] <SmarK> Anyone can help? had problems during upgrade to gutsy, and my compiz it's all messed up. I tryed uninstalling compiz and reinstalling compiz fusion but i cannot make it function properly
[16:59] <soundray> dmi3on: did you mean sharing across a network?
[16:59] <Jimme1> desertc, what input should I record from? Aux, phone, mic, or line i n?
[16:59] <Andycasss> how to change systems language?
[16:59] <Roudi> Hey folks!  Question: I'm considering Ubuntu for a fresh machine I'm about to purchase.  How can I determine if the new machine's hardware is supported by Ubuntu before I buy it?
[16:59] <stefg> !compiz | SmarK
[16:59] <ubotu> SmarK: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[16:59] <Pici> !locale | Andycasss
[16:59] <ubotu> Andycasss: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[16:59] <freak124> http://users.telenet.be/rsspro/Screenshot.png -->can anyone help me on this? I don't want to make a new partition table, cause I would loose my old partitions
[17:00] <soundray> Andycasss: System-Administration-Language Support
[17:00] <akincer> Roudi: Get the list of hardware and search around on Google
[17:00] <akincer> Roudi: It won't take as long as you think
[17:00] <stefg> !info testdisk  | freak124
[17:00] <ubotu> freak124: testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.6-1 (gutsy), package size 668 kB, installed size 2624 kB
[17:00] <flithm> hey everyone... I found an ubuntu wiki page that says all you need to do to install phpmyadmin is apt-get install it, restart apache and point your browser to an url.  This doesn't work for me... anyone know what might be going wrong here?
[17:01] <merovingian> hi guys, i just installed Ubuntu but somehow it installed LILO also. I have Grub installed as well.how do i get rid of LILO?
[17:01] <akincer> Roudi: If it is a machine in a store that you can pop a CD in and boot, take a liveCD with you. Just ask permission first
[17:01] <Roudi> I'll try that.  If I have any further questions, I'll pop back in.  Thanks.
[17:01] <stefg> !software > merovingian
[17:01] <freak124> ty stefg
[17:01] <merovingian> stefg: thanksssss
[17:02] <simpaan> någon svensk? :)
[17:02] <stefg> !se | simpaan
[17:02] <jsschmid1> soundray: thanks, I was looking for the include directory but I couldnt find it. How can I obtain those files? In the directory of the previous kernel (I upgraded a couple of days ago) the /build/include directory is present
[17:02] <ubotu> simpaan: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[17:02] <fattony> hi does somebody know about bugs in regnum online with vdso (core dumped)
[17:02] <merovingian> !software
[17:02] <gsuveg> me crash many of gnome-panel applest, like the weather, system apps, mixer.
[17:02] <ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[17:03] <soundray> !headers | jsschmid1
[17:03] <ubotu> jsschmid1: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[17:03] <stefg> merovingian: you have that factoid as a pm from ubotu. no need to torture the overstressed bot again :-)
[17:03] <kuta> what ftp program for ubuntu?
[17:03] <Pici> !ftp | kuta
[17:03] <ubotu> kuta: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[17:03] <akincer> kuta: I like FileZilla personally
[17:03] <merovingian> stefg: lol sorrry still a noob :p
[17:04] <kidbuntu> why does gutsy doesnt work properly on a laptop acer aspire 4520
[17:04] <Andycasss> I still cant make my wireless work
[17:04] <jsschmid1> ubotu: when I do that it says: Package linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[17:04] <jsschmid1> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[17:04] <jsschmid1> is only available from another source
[17:04] <akincer> kidbuntu: That's an extremely vague question. How doesn't it work properly?
[17:05] <simpaan> why will me steam not work with ubuntu?
[17:05] <Andycasss> Ive set the options in network-admin but iwconfig tells me that there are no options set??!
[17:05] <Andycasss> Ive activated the device too
[17:05] <aoupi_> akincer: just got back from the livecd, sound didn't work there either
[17:05] <kidbuntu> akincer: i don't know myself. its not my laptop.. its my friends. he said something about after installing it. the gutsy doesnt boot anymore
[17:05] <desertc> aoupi_: Are the speakers plugged in?
[17:05] <aoupi_> akincer: tried 2 pair of headphones but nothing
[17:05] <stefg> jsschmid1: try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic , that should pull the right headers as dependency.
[17:05] <aoupi_> desertc: yea
[17:05] <akincer> aoupi: There's a chance you have a hardware problem especially if sound used to work
[17:05] <aoupi_> akincer: bummer
[17:06] <akincer> aoupi: As long as there are no physical switches that would mute the sound
[17:06] <Pici> simpaan: Steam is a windows program, and must be run with wine.  Please join #winehq for specific program help once you get wine installed.
[17:06] <santh_> plz tell the terminal command for installing gstreamer plugings and unrar files
[17:06] <aoupi_> akincer: hm, too bad. well, I'll have to get me a new soundcard then
[17:06]  * soundray ponders that yes, indeed, there is such a thing as a stupid question
[17:06] <santh_> plz tell the terminal command for installing gstreamer plugings and unrar files
[17:06] <stefg> jsschmid1: it might be that your sources.list is screwed. get afresh one at !easysource then , and sudo apt.get update afterwards
[17:06] <desertc> aoupi_: I don't know how people can instantly respond that their speakers are all plugged in, without failing to check.
[17:06] <Andycasss> how to reinitialize network?
[17:07] <Andycasss> Similar to windows "repair" command?
[17:07] <wirechief1> kidbuntu well maybe he has a bad burn
[17:07] <akincer> kidbuntu: Short of Googling and seeing if anyone else had a similar problem, there's little chance anyone here can divine an answer on a problem someone you know is having of which not even you know exactly what the nature of the problem is
[17:07] <aoupi_> desertc: I've checked more than 100times, taking 'em out putting them in :)
[17:07] <cake4568> I need to hold down the power button to turn my xps1210 laptop off when I try to use hibernate/suspend
[17:07] <Jimme1> Does anyone know how I can record sound with a SB Audigy SE?
[17:07] <stefg> Andycasss: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:07] <jsschmid1> stefg: than it says: linux-headers-generic is already the newest version. ... I mean the headers are present in the directory of my old kernel, but in the new one they are not
[17:08] <desertc> aoupi_: The CD-ROM elimated all the software, so look at your hardware, sir.
[17:08] <desertc> Jimmel: Did you follow the instructions that I just sent to you in a link?
[17:08] <aoupi_> desertc: yea... :(
[17:08] <zeptin> is there a list anywhere of motherboards that Ubuntu has support for?
[17:08] <cake4568> any settings I can change to fix suspend?
[17:08] <soyo> iae pessoar
[17:08] <santh_> plz tell the terminal command for installing gstreamer plugings and unrar files
[17:08] <Blinkiz> Hello. I would like to get a beautiful desktop I will see every day. The November 2007 desktops thread at ubuntuforums.org makes me go WOW. So how can I get these beautiful GUIs? I really like this one http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=48708&d=1193933424
[17:09] <kidbuntu> wirechief1: i'm not my sure myself though.. but i know he's aware of the bad burn stuff. let me just try it again.. since i just got the ubuntu CD from shipment. i'll give him one.
[17:09] <stefg> jsschmid1: look in /usr/src . is there a linux-headers-2.6.20-16 dir ?
[17:10] <soundray> kidbuntu: there is a forum thread about this laptop: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510352
[17:10]  * tbf wonders if the stuff in linux-source-2.6.22 really contains the code for linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic
[17:10] <kidbuntu> soundray: thanks let me check
[17:10] <cake4568> blinkiz they are using AWN probably...(its the cool launch bar right?)
[17:10] <stefg> !hardware > zeptin
[17:10] <wirechief1> kidbuntu best to be sure do the media check before a install or trying to figure out any problems
[17:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[17:10] <damip> hi
[17:10] <jsschmid1> stefg: : no, just two for the previous kernel (normal / generic )
[17:10] <Inuyasha32246> hi milhouse
[17:10] <santh_> plz tell the terminal command for installing gstreamer plugings and unrar files
[17:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Is it possible to remove the session lock after hibernate/standby?
[17:10] <MilhousePunkRock> If so, how? ;)
[17:11] <Blinkiz> cake4568: Yeah. I think everything that is used is written in the screenshot. But I dont know what to download
[17:11] <tbf> when booting the stuff built from linux-source-2.6.22, my machine just hangs
[17:11] <stefg> !easysource |  jsschmid1
[17:11] <ubotu> jsschmid1: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[17:11] <Inuyasha32246> sudo apt-get install gstreamer-plugins?
[17:11] <MilhousePunkRock> tbf: Using restricted-modules?
[17:11] <newguy> Well, after using ubuntu for about 5 months im ready to delete my windowsxp partition, before i do was wondering, should i use gparted for this or the live cd?
[17:11] <Inuyasha32246> just look up both of those in synaptic
[17:11] <Inuyasha32246> LIVE CD
[17:11] <desertc> newguy: Congratulations!
[17:11] <newguy> kk
[17:12] <newguy> ty :-)
[17:12] <Inuyasha32246> oh and congrats
[17:12] <desertc> Welcome to the New.
[17:12] <Inuyasha32246> welcome to the community
[17:12] <newguy> anyway, ive been using ubuntu so long i forgot my winxp password anyway lmao
[17:12] <Inuyasha32246> lol
[17:12] <cake4568> does anyone know how to fix hibernate/suspend problems?
[17:12] <stefg> newguy: if you don't need to resize you can just kill it with a short console commnd
[17:12] <MilhousePunkRock> I still have my XP partition... But the activation expired after playing with vmware... :D
[17:12] <akincer> Welcome to freedom newguy.
[17:12] <soundray> newguy: use gparted from the live CD
[17:12] <Inuyasha32246> :D
[17:12] <Inuyasha32246> that'll work too
[17:12] <tbf> MilhousePunkRock: IPW3945, well - but that kernel doesn't even manage to find the root partition
[17:13] <newguy> w00t, gona reboot with live CD, ty for advice c u all soon :)
[17:13] <Inuyasha32246> ttyl
[17:13] <Inuyasha32246> good luck
[17:13] <MilhousePunkRock> tbf: Maybe it's something with your menu.lst?
[17:13] <Blinkiz> So, how do I get more fancy themes for my gnome?
[17:13] <cake4568> use AWN
[17:13] <damip> I have a serial mouse     and       a laptop with only USB ports,I also have an USB - SERIAL adapter cable, but when I put all together... nothing happens, the mouse is simply ignored... (I dont wanna buy a new mouse :p)
[17:13] <damip> Can you help me please ?
[17:13] <stefg> !themes | Blinkiz
[17:13] <ubotu> Blinkiz: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[17:13] <DShepherd> gnome-look.org?
[17:13] <bnovc> is it possible to restart a computer via x forwarding? i.e. what setuid command is run to restart the computer via kde/gnome?
[17:13] <Blinkiz> oh, nice links
[17:13] <Blinkiz> AWN you say...
[17:14] <tbf> MilhousePunkRock: menu.lst entries are identical, expect for the kernel image name
[17:14] <wirechief1> kidbuntu 64bit can be bad in any distro best to only use 32bit and if Ubuntu 7.10 doesnt work there are other options.
[17:14] <tbf> MilhousePunkRock: but i've got an idea!
[17:14] <kidbuntu> wirechief1: as far as i know he used a 32bit
[17:14] <tbf> MilhousePunkRock: update-initramfs ! ;-)
[17:14] <Jimmey> desertc, that link seems to be about playing sound - I have no trouble playing sound, only recording it
[17:14] <Blinkiz> AWN can be found at https://launchpad.net/awn
[17:15] <soundray> damip: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto should help
[17:15] <wirechief1> kidbuntu: did it pass the media check ?
[17:15] <cake4568> !awn
[17:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:15] <damip> soundtray :  thx
[17:16] <kidbuntu> wirechief1: i didnt know if he did a check.. the link soundray gave me has the same hardware specs and same problem my friend had
[17:17] <nox-Hand> Since upgrading to gutsy, I can't use a projector over 640x480? :|
[17:17] <cake4568> my computer dies when I try to suspend/hibernate...does anyone know of a solution?
[17:17] <stefg> cake4568: yeah.... don't suspend/hibernate
[17:17] <Blinkiz> I have lost my keyboard layout. Where do I change keyboard layout in ubuntu?
[17:18] <cake4568> thanks stefg!!! its a laptop though so its sorta useful
[17:18] <adac2> can someone help me? I'm not able to get my 3com wireless usb to work
[17:18] <soundray> cake4568: have a look at the things you can set in /etc/default/acpi-support
[17:18] <albec1> cake4568: its a known problem
[17:18] <maj> when i add new hardware to the box (NIC in my case) how do i initialize it to the system?
[17:18] <maj> in 6.06
[17:18] <kaqp> .
[17:18] <scipio> Blinkiz, system-preferences-keyboard
[17:19] <tyler_> I'm trying to get my 3d cube to work with compiz fusion and i can only  get two workplaces that i can switch between
[17:19] <santh_> sudo apt-get install unrar
[17:19] <santh_> Reading package lists... Done
[17:19] <santh_> Building dependency tree
[17:19] <santh_> Reading state information... Done
[17:19] <santh_> Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[17:19] <santh_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[17:19] <santh_> is only available from another source
[17:19] <santh_> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[17:19] <bloony> how do I give write access to an external disk to a user? all folders and subfolders
[17:19] <stefg> cake4568: usually its some driver which spoils it. For example the nvidia-glx has a bug and will never come back after suspend. you have to track down the offending piece of hardware and adapt the suspned script o unload that driver before suspend, and loading it back after
[17:20] <tyler_> My 3d "cube" only has 2 sides how can i fix it
[17:20] <cake4568> so its probably my graphics card? Nvidia 7400?
[17:20] <soundray> cake4568: sometimes it helps to debug the ACPI DSDT, but that can be involved.
[17:20] <stefg> cake4568: yeah
[17:20] <santh_> sudo apt-get install unrar
[17:20] <santh_> Reading package lists... Done
[17:20] <santh_> Building dependency tree
[17:20] <santh_> Reading state information... Done
[17:20] <santh_> Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[17:20] <santh_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[17:20] <santh_> is only available from another source
[17:20] <santh_> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[17:20] <soundray> santh_: do not paste here!
[17:21] <stefg> !paste | santh_:
[17:21] <ubotu> santh_:: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[17:21] <cake4568> can you provide any info on how to do that driver trick stefg?
[17:21] <scipio> tyler_, http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/8/29/How-to-set-up-Compiz-Fusion
[17:21] <scipio> santh_, you probably need to enable all the repos
[17:21] <estratford> santh_: do you have the multiverse repos enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[17:22] <Blinkiz> How do I remove all these joins and quits from this channel? Am using pidgin.
[17:22] <santh_> how to enable repos
[17:22] <punzada> anyone know why my wifi would work with my newer 54mbps linksys router and not my older dell truemobile 11mbps one? I can connect but it won't correctly route when connecting to the outside world, it works fine right now booted into windows
[17:22] <stefg> cake4568: googling for 'ubuntu nvidia suspend' yields http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79295 for instance
[17:22] <maj> when i add new hardware to the box (NIC in my case) how do i initialize it to the system in 6.06
[17:22] <soundray> cake4568: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ACPIBattery explains how to fix the DSDT
[17:22] <scipio> santh_, system-admin-software sources. check everything
[17:22] <cake4568> thanks I'll look into it
[17:23] <soundray> cake4568: first stop is /etc/default/acpi-support though
[17:23] <jsschmid1> how can I upgrade from feisty to gutsy, I tried "update-manager" but this says I am already up to date...
[17:23] <apo`> upgrade-manager -c -d
[17:24] <soundray> apo`: no such file or directory :)
[17:24] <aoupi_> desertc: I got it working pluging the headphones into the back instead of the front, I guess it's just the front jack that's broken
[17:24] <soundray> !upgrade > jsschmid1, please read the private message from ubotu
[17:24] <stefg> jsschmid1: think twice if you really want to upgrade. I'm quite suspicious you broke your conf already by use of automatix or some other 'helper'-script, so you have a pretty high chance to hose your install in the process. And IMHO gutsy is quite pointless for the majority of users
[17:25] <MilhousePunkRock> stefg: I just solved that yesterday... Try Option "NvAGP" "1"
[17:25] <jsschmid1> apo`: d is just for developement versions, right? as it is already released i wouldn't need that one, right?
[17:25] <Ubuntupwns> stefg, 'pointless' is an understatement ;)
[17:25]  * stefg deflects MilhousePunkRock 's answer to cake4568
[17:26] <soundray> jsschmid1: that's right, gksudo update-manager -c should be all you need. Do read the page that ubotu tells you about, though
[17:26] <jsschmid1> stefg: the only thing is that i included some source repos
[17:26] <desertc> aoupi_: Oh, that's strange.  At least you got it figured out.  Thanks for the update.
[17:26] <newguy> deleting winxp partition in progress :D
[17:26] <Andycasss> where can i see a list or running processes?
[17:26] <Inuyasha32246> yayzaurs newguy
[17:26] <jsschmid1> stefg: but  didnt use automatix or something like
[17:26] <soundray> Andycasss: gnome-system-monitor
[17:26] <Inuyasha32246> gnome-system-monitor
[17:26] <MilhousePunkRock> stefg: Yeah, I just read up and realized you were not the asker...
[17:26] <brobostigon> toooooooooooooooop will show you the running processes
[17:26] <brobostigon> top
[17:27] <MilhousePunkRock> cake4568: Look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaLaptopBinaryDriverSuspend
[17:27] <stefg> jsschmid1: so did you regenerate your sources.list and apt-get update 'd ?
[17:27] <maj> when i add new hardware to the box (NIC in my case) how do i initialize it to the system in 6.06
[17:27] <MilhousePunkRock> cake4568: "Works for me"
[17:27] <MilhousePunkRock> maj: Not much to do for yourself, other than adjusting the network configuration to make use of the new interface
[17:27] <Inuyasha32246> so who's down for some insurance fraud?
[17:27] <stefg> jsschmid1: but take my word. you're going to regret the upgrade, so make a backup first
[17:28] <minus198> Is it possible to hack a passphrase to a file that has been encrypted with gpg?
[17:28] <maj> MilhousePunkRock, so modifying interfaces file would be enuf?
[17:28] <Davao> hello how to install .exe file in ubuntu 7.04?im trying to install chikka txt messenger www.chikka.com...thanks.. =)
[17:28] <newguy> wine?
[17:28] <holycow> is the default shell in gutsy dash?
[17:28] <Davao> the file is chikka.exe
[17:28] <santh_> how to enable multiverse repos estratford
[17:28] <cake4568> windows?
[17:28] <Inuyasha32246> wine
[17:28] <MilhousePunkRock> maj: Most likely... You can probably do it via GUI if you don't dare... Everything on the low level should be done by the kernel itself
[17:28] <soundray> holycow: yes.
[17:29] <Davao> how to install wine?
[17:29] <Inuyasha32246> so no one is down for some crazy insurance fraud?
[17:29] <soundray> holycow: change with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash'
[17:29] <jsschmid1> stefg: lsb_release says anyway that I am already gutsy
[17:29] <Inuyasha32246> sudo apt-get install wine
[17:29] <MilhousePunkRock> maj: I just put a new soundcard in one of boxes yesterday, it was really boring, nothing to do manually... ;)
[17:29] <holycow> danke
[17:29] <stefg> jsschmid1: huh ?
[17:29] <newguy> sudo apt-get moo
[17:29] <Pici> holycow: /bin/bash->bash /bin/sh->dash
[17:29] <devilsreject> what up all
[17:29] <JebJoya> hey, very quick one, i can't seem to write to CDs atm, comes up immediately with an error saying something along the lines of "an error occurred while writing".  Drive is a Sony DRU-700A.  It used to work on my old Feisty install.  Any suggestions?
[17:29] <soundray> holycow: immer gern
[17:29] <Inuyasha32246> neine
[17:29] <Inuyasha32246> hi devilsreject
[17:29] <Inuyasha32246> got a problem
[17:30] <dmi3on> soundray: i am very new in linux what you give me is to complex
[17:30] <Inuyasha32246> you wanna fight about it
[17:30] <dmi3on> there is any other way to share foder ?
[17:30] <devilsreject> im havin problems gettin the vid card driver installed im runnin 7.10 and i have an ati radeon 8500 i have the 50 meg .run file dl from ait's site for linux but i dont know how to install it im on the how to but the command isn't working
[17:30] <Inuyasha32246> sudo apt-get install samba dmi3on
[17:30] <jsschmid1> stefg: is my kernel 2.6.20-16-generic the current kernel for gutsy?
[17:30] <dmi3on> ok
[17:30] <Davao> ok i will try wine
[17:30] <MilhousePunkRock> dmi3on: Share to what?
[17:30] <Inuyasha32246> 22
[17:30] <excitatory> alrigh, so i have a radeon 9600 with dual heads (VGA & DVI).  I want to add a second monitor to the dvi port and have a spanning or extra wide desktop.  someone told me not to use xinerama anymore and to look into randr 1.2.  i've searched around and everything i find is a bit confusing.. is there a coherent guide for setting this up?
[17:30] <devilsreject> sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run is the cmomand but i cant get it to run
[17:30] <minus198> devilsreject, don't use the driver from ATI.. Install the one from the repository
[17:31] <santh_> when i tried to install gstreamer E:  Couldn't find package gstreamer what to do
[17:31] <MilhousePunkRock> dmi3on: If you are sharing among linux boxes only, NFS is a better choice
[17:31] <dmi3on> \MilhousePunkRock: share between win and ubuntu
[17:31] <soundray> dmi3on: just to check: have you got one Windows and one Ubuntu machine, or both systems on one dual-boot machine?
[17:31] <Inuyasha32246> excitatory
[17:31] <Inuyasha32246> yt
[17:31] <stefg> jsschmid1: no, that's the feisty kernel. and using the feisty kernel with gutsy results in quite a couple of issues
[17:31] <dmi3on> and to have folde on desktop in ubuntu
[17:31] <wirechief1> excitatory: yes there is a wiki for using randr
[17:31] <santh_> soundray help me
[17:31] <minus198> devilsreject, use the driver from System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers
[17:31] <Inuyasha32246> excitatory yt?
[17:31] <dmi3on> i have 2 machines
[17:32] <MilhousePunkRock> dmi3on: In that case samba is your choice..
[17:32] <kahrytan> !codecs
[17:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:32] <soundray> dmi3on: did you get the message about samba?
[17:32] <Inuyasha32246> duh, samba rules
[17:32] <MilhousePunkRock> !samba | dmi3on
[17:32] <ubotu> dmi3on: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[17:32] <dmi3on> yes
[17:32] <devilsreject> minus198 -- i think thats the one i origonaly had and WARSOW still said i needed some sort of driver to play
[17:32] <dmi3on> thnks very much
[17:32] <excitatory> Inuyasha32246: what is yt?
[17:32] <devilsreject> WARSOW is a linux package
[17:32] <Inuyasha32246> you there
[17:32] <minus198> devilsreject, ok.. :/
[17:32] <Inuyasha32246> welcome to the internet
[17:32] <bloony> how do I check free space on a partition?
[17:33] <stefg> bloony: df -h
[17:33] <minus198> devilsreject, well..do this: "chmod 777 file.run"
[17:33] <minus198> devilsreject, and then do "./file.run"
[17:33] <excitatory> bloony: for a nice graphical representation, install filelight
[17:33] <devilsreject> k
[17:33] <devilsreject> just at any terminal???
[17:33] <Inuyasha32246> ok so who had the ati problem?
[17:33] <bloony> k
[17:33] <bloony> th
[17:33] <bloony> x
[17:33] <jsschmid1> stefg:  so how could this happen and how can I fix it?
[17:33] <minus198> devilsreject, yes
[17:34] <andreas> hi, annyone know where to download a driver for Nvidia GeForce Go 7300 (the ubuntu reposit one dosen't work)
[17:34] <Davao> newguy: done downloading wine..but when i double click chikka.exe it says "Cannot open /home/eversun/Desktop/chikkasetupv4.exe: No application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file."
[17:34] <minus198> Inuyasha32246, devilsreject has that problem
[17:34] <Inuyasha32246> bloony, dont punctuate with enters
[17:34] <excitatory> Inuyasha32246: that was i..
[17:34] <bkline> I'm installing Ubuntu 7.10 and I've been looking at "Checking for packages to remove ..." for about an hour now; how long is this supposed to take?
[17:34] <o00w> is anyone familiar with Suse Novell Client 2.0 also known as Netware I can't seem to install on Ubuntu 7.04 using the script provided get an error "install: missing destination file operand after `./ncl_install
[17:34] <wirechief1> excitatory: yes there is a wiki for using randr http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
[17:34] <Inuyasha32246> ok, well there are multiple guides to enable the tv out on radeon cards
[17:34] <devilsreject> devilsreject@DevilsReject:~$ chmod 777 file.run
[17:34] <devilsreject> chmod: cannot access `file.run': No such file or directory
[17:34] <devilsreject> devilsreject@DevilsReject:~$
[17:34] <newguy> Davao is there a wine icon under the "applications" menu?
[17:34] <kahrytan> bkline,  It shouldnt take but few minutes. how fast is your system?
[17:35] <ganymede> this channel is funnier than TV
[17:35] <devilsreject> or was i supposed to put the name of the file in there
[17:35] <genii> !gatos
[17:35] <greencookie> Hello there.
[17:35] <excitatory> wirechief1: well, that was the howto that was confusing and not working.. but i'll give it another try if that's the best resource..
[17:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:35] <Paddy_EIRE> ganymede, anything is funnier than tv
[17:35] <ganymede> Paddy_EIRE: this channel is funnier than most comedies
[17:35] <genii> Hmmm itinerant bot
[17:35] <stefg> jsschmid1: i don't know what you did, so i can't tell what happened. My suggestion would be to make a backup and do clean reinstall of feisty (prolly a netinstall with the minimal .iso), so you don't need to upgrade after install, but have immediatly all the latest (feisty-)packages installed
[17:35] <Gerrit> Hello, the wireless router changed from 802.11g to 802.11b, and now I cannot connect anymore
[17:36] <Gerrit> !802.11b
[17:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 802.11b - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:36] <Inuyasha32246> but they mostly fail, you have to add this under your devices in xorg.conf = Option		"UseFBDev"		"true"
[17:36] <bkline> kahrtyan: can't get cat /proc/cpuinfo to respond, but it's a reasonably fast AMD64 (tho this is the 32-bit version I'm installing)
[17:36] <Inuyasha32246> and then get the ati tv out patch
[17:36] <Inuyasha32246> compile and install it
[17:37] <ushaba> i've got a problem with swap that is not solved by simple swapon
[17:37] <Inuyasha32246> how bad is it
[17:37] <ushaba> well, top lists swap as being cached
[17:37] <ushaba> but it is not usable
[17:38] <ushaba> (i never use this laptop, so it's full of problems)
[17:38] <Inuyasha32246> hooray for bad page filing
[17:38]  * genii sips a coffee and ponders swap partition types, mkswap and swapon
[17:38] <ushaba> Mem:    774960k total,   739304k used,    35656k free,    96400k buffers
[17:38] <ushaba> Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,   432932k cached
[17:38] <ushaba> looks pretty representative to me
[17:38]  * greencookie pours genii another cup.
[17:38] <ushaba> the swap is there, it's just not able to be activated
[17:38] <JimmyDee> guys I'm having a bit of a problem, how do you get it to recognize a library? i.e. libami.so.1 no such file. bleh
[17:38] <Inuyasha32246> but no successfull fb referancing
[17:38] <dmi3on> sudo mkdir /media/mountname what that means ?
[17:38] <genii> greencookie: Thanks :)
[17:39] <greencookie> genii: anytime.
[17:39] <Inuyasha32246> failed swaps(bane of thine existance)
[17:39] <ganymede> that should be an error message
[17:39] <ushaba> i'm thinking it is because of how the swap was initially created
[17:39] <ushaba> i'm pretty sure there's a tiny 10 MB partition before the swap within the extended partition
[17:39] <greencookie> anyone know why ctrl+alt+f1 (or f2,3-9) isnt working for my gutsy?
[17:40] <genii> ushaba: The partition type descriptor must be of linux swap type.
[17:40] <ganymede> someone is swallowing the key combinations, or it is disableed in xorg.conf
[17:40] <Inuyasha32246> sounds like a space crush
[17:40] <Inuyasha32246> clash
[17:40] <Inuyasha32246> ...
[17:40] <greencookie> !ot | FloodBot4
[17:40] <ubotu> FloodBot4: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:40] <genii> (hex 82)
[17:40] <Davao> newguy: thanks.i saw it.but  i will try to download again the chikka.it was corrupt hehe.
[17:40] <stefg> ushaba: sudo mkswap /dev/<foo> , then 'sudo blkid' to gett the UUID of the newly created swap space. edit /etc/fstab to reflect that UUID, then sudo sudo swapon -a
[17:40] <Inuyasha32246> something like that, you know improper initialization of swap file allocatting
[17:40] <Pici> greencookie: ?
[17:40] <newguy> Davao np
[17:41] <Pici> greencookie: those are bots we're using for testing, please ignore :)
[17:41] <rahmen> Hi! I'm having some trouble with my wifi connection. "sudo lshw -C network" gives me "*-network DISABLED". How do I enable it?
[17:41] <Inuyasha32246> !swap file
[17:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swap file - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:41] <Inuyasha32246> !swap crash
[17:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swap crash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:41] <greencookie> oh Pici lol! I thought someone was fooling around with mIrc flood bots:)
[17:41] <kazim59> !fusion
[17:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:41] <kazim59> !compiz-fusion
[17:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[17:42] <stefg> !msgthebot | Inuyasha32246
[17:42] <ubotu> Inuyasha32246: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[17:42] <ushaba> i'm checking out gparted again
[17:42] <dajhorn> greencookie: The CTRL+ALT+F consoles are called virtual terminals.  They are defined in the /etc/inittab file.
[17:42] <ushaba> i'll let you know the situation
[17:42] <Inuyasha32246> ubotu | sorry
[17:42] <ubotu> It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[17:42] <merovingian> hi guys, i uninstalled LILO thru Synaptics Manager , it says it has uninstalled it , but when i restart my UBUNTU, it still starts up with LILO
[17:42] <Nyle> i have some mp4 files I got from a camera phone I recorded with.  I need to edit the videos, how can I do this? what video editor should I use. one with a basic easy interface?
[17:42] <ganymede> *sigh* kids these days
[17:42] <greencookie> dajhorn: how would i go about enabling them?
[17:42] <dmi3on> here "//servername/sharename  /media/mountname  smbfs  guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0"
[17:42] <Inuyasha32246> ubotu | can I have a hug?
[17:43] <ushaba> is ubotu a person or a bot?
[17:43] <dmi3on> what i have to write //servername/sharename
[17:43] <dmi3on> ?
[17:43] <Inuyasha32246> bot
[17:43] <ganymede> person
[17:43] <ushaba> why does it apologize?
[17:43] <Inuyasha32246> im talking to a robot
[17:43] <ushaba> that's weird behavior
[17:43] <genii> ushaba: a bot
[17:43] <Inuyasha32246> it didn't, I did
[17:43] <ushaba> actually, it must be a bot
[17:43] <ushaba> ah, i see
[17:43] <greencookie> berson
[17:43] <bkline> Installer for 7.10 seems to be stuck on "checking for packages to remove..."; how do I find a console where I can see more granular progress messages?
[17:43] <dajhorn> greencookie: Look at the /etc/inittab file and ensure that the section "getty invocations for the runlevels" looks okay.
[17:43] <Pici> ushaba: uBOTu
[17:43] <Davao> how to filter downloads of my workstation?
[17:43] <Nyle> anyone help?
[17:43] <ushaba> a person would never have manners
[17:43] <Inuyasha32246> ubotu | do you love me
[17:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about do you love me - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:43] <genii> greencookie: Heh :)
[17:43] <Nyle> i have some mp4 files I got from a camera phone I recorded with.  I need to edit the videos, how can I do this? what video editor should I use. one with a basic easy interface?
[17:44] <ushaba> can someone remind me how to list all partitions from the terminal?
[17:44] <dmi3on> here "//servername/sharename  /media/mountname  smbfs  guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0"
[17:44] <ushaba> gparted is hiccuping
[17:44] <dmi3on> what i have to write //servername/sharename
[17:44] <greencookie> dajhorn: ok. But i dont know what you mean by 'looks ok' :D
[17:44] <stefg> merovingian: that's because you uninstalled the userland part of lilo. it's still in the MBR of your harddisk. run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub' to overwrite lilo in the MBR with grub
[17:44] <wirechief1> fdisk -l
[17:44] <ganymede> ushaba: ls /dev/hd*
[17:44] <dajhorn> greencookie: It should look like this: http://pastebin.com/m790dc71f
[17:44] <pucko_> merovingian, and you want grub back? you need to tell grub to write a new mbr. sudo update-grub should probably do it.
[17:44] <genii> wirechief1: sudo with that
[17:44] <devilsreject> hey all
[17:44] <dajhorn> greencookie: This stanza is also where you can add, remove, or change the behavior of CTRL+ALT+F bindings.
[17:45] <devilsreject> thi sis the error i get when i try to run WARSOW
[17:45] <ushaba> the swap partition claims to be just over 1 Gig
[17:45] <ganymede> ushaba: or sd* if you're on SATA/SCSI/external USB
[17:45] <ushaba> type 82
[17:45] <Andycasss> Umm any idea why I cant access net with my ubuntu? Ive set the options correctly, I can ping from outside but not from inside
[17:45] <Inuyasha32246> ubotu | what is the answer to life, the universe, and everything
[17:45] <ushaba> /dev/sda5            4198        4328     1052226   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[17:45] <wirechief1> genii ha keep forgetting ubuntu needs that.
[17:45] <Pici> !botabuse | Inuyasha32246
[17:45] <ubotu> Inuyasha32246: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[17:45] <ushaba> so why doesn't it activate with swapon?
[17:45] <bkline> Is this the wrong channel for asking questions about a stuck installer?
[17:46] <Inuyasha32246> meanie PMs
[17:46] <devilsreject> You're OpenGL installation dosn't support direct rendering.  If you have an NVIDIA or an ATI card you'll probably need to install the propritary driver.
[17:46] <devilsreject> thats the error im gettin
[17:46] <merovingian> stefg: THANKSSSS :) will try it now
[17:46] <devilsreject> can i install direct rendering or change it so it does have it
[17:46] <merovingian> pucko_: yeah i want to do that.... :)
[17:46] <ushaba> devilsreject
[17:46] <jsschmid1> stefg:  what I did is installing via USB stick and netinstall, because my laptop hasn't got a CDROM. After that I updated because of the more comfortable Bluetooth support. I didn't find an option to install gutsy directly with the netinstall
[17:46] <Yasumoto> bkline: no, but sometimes no one really knows enough about the issue to help too much :/
[17:46] <abadtooth> Hey everyone,I got a new Acer AL2223W and I want to display 1680x1050, I have a Nvidia Geforce7950GT and all very high end specs, I an only display 1400x1050. does anyone know how to get it to display 1680x1050 WITHOUT editing the xorg config file?
[17:46] <Inuyasha32246> no
[17:46] <Yasumoto> bkline: do you think it could be a bad CD burn?
[17:46] <devilsreject> ushaba - whats up
[17:46] <jsschmid1> stefg: is it possible to upgrade the kernel on it's own?
[17:46] <ushaba> you could always try vesa...
[17:46] <ushaba> as the driver for the card temporarily
[17:47] <ushaba> it'll be guaranteed to install
[17:47] <bkline> Yasumoto: verify came out clean.
[17:47] <dmi3on> were i can read my  //servername/sharename
[17:47] <vispi> k
[17:47] <dmi3on> ???
[17:47] <Yasumoto> abadtooth: do you know what driver you're using?
[17:47] <ushaba> and you can get the proprietary driver after
[17:47] <devilsreject> im usin the restricted driver
[17:47] <Yasumoto> bkline: hm, that's interesting
[17:47] <devilsreject> now and it works
[17:47] <abadtooth> Yasumoto: 1 sec
[17:47] <devilsreject> im just tryin to get this game workin
[17:47] <ganymede> dmi3on: mount.cifs //server/sharename /some/directory && cd /some/directory
[17:47] <vispi> ciao a tt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:47] <ushaba> which kind of card is it again?
[17:47] <ushaba> it's all going so fast!
[17:47] <Pici> !it | vispi
[17:47] <ubotu> vispi: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:47] <Inuyasha32246> right
[17:47] <greencookie> wow i cant find /etc/innitab folder
[17:47] <abadtooth> Yasumoto:  100.14.19
[17:47] <devilsreject> WARSOW its a linux package its not a winblows game
[17:47] <Pici> !upstart | greencookie
[17:47] <ubotu> greencookie: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[17:47] <Yasumoto> bkline: hm, where are you running into problems?
[17:48] <vispi> pici!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[17:48] <ushaba> ah, i know warsox
[17:48] <ushaba> warsow
[17:48] <genii> ushaba: good. 1/4 the way there. Next is: sudo mkswap /dev/sda5      then: blkid  to find the uuid of it. then make an entry in /etc/fstab with the uuid and specify sawp as fstype. then to do the sudo swapon -a
[17:48] <Yasumoto> abadtooth: is that the restricted driver?
[17:48] <abadtooth> Yasumoto:  yessir
[17:48] <dajhorn> greencookie: /etc/inittab is a file.
[17:48] <ganymede> this is what happens when computer manufactured start pre-installing ubuntu
[17:48] <stefg> jsschmid1: so you did a gutsy netinstall with a feisty installer... hmmm, i wonder that it worked at all. Man, don't screw around with that unclean state. Start over with a clean gutsy installation medium
[17:48] <genii> bah typos
[17:48] <devilsreject> ushaba -- any idea on how to get this direct rendering started up with the restricted driver
[17:48] <Inuyasha32246> !fglrx | devilsreject
[17:48] <ubotu> devilsreject: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:48] <ushaba> what is blkid?
[17:48] <bkline> Where do I go to find out more details about what the installer is doing?
[17:49] <rahmen> I have some trouble with my "nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller". Do I need to download drivers or something to make this work?
[17:49] <Yasumoto> abadtooth: hm, that's obnoxious. I had that issue with 7.04, then I reinstalled, and it worked in 1680
[17:49] <Pici> dajhorn: Ubuntu doesnt use init anymore, we use upstart.
[17:49] <genii> ushaba: A command to find the uuid of a drive
[17:49] <greencookie> dajhorn: I dont see any inittab file I see iftab file.
[17:49] <Inuyasha32246> devils reject | I can help
[17:49] <abadtooth> Yasumoto:  I'm using 7.10
[17:49] <dajhorn> Pici: Is upstart the default for Gutsy installs?
[17:49] <genii> "BLocK ID"
[17:49] <Yasumoto> abadtooth: yeah, that's why it should work
[17:49] <LjL-Temp> ushaba: "man commandname" to know what a command does
[17:49] <xt600e> Hi! I just installed ubuntu 7.10 in a vmware player and I wanted to install epiphany-browser. I get "package epiphany-browser has no installation candidate". What to put into sources.list?
[17:49] <tehlam3> is there a way of installing a debian package including all dependencies cause everytime i try and install a patched dillo version it says unable to install due to dependencies and install -f just removes the patched package ...
[17:49] <Pici> dajhorn: Its been the default since at least feisty, perhaps earlier.
[17:49] <greencookie> thanks for link Pici now to see if my /openurl option works.
[17:49] <ushaba> i just do blkid /dev/sda5
[17:49] <ushaba> ?
[17:50] <LjL-Temp> !info epiphany-browser | xt600e
[17:50] <brobostigon> does it use upstart on powerpc too, the boor manager is yaboot??
[17:50] <ubotu> xt600e: epiphany-browser: Intuitive GNOME web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3527 kB, installed size 14412 kB
[17:50] <devilsreject> already did that
[17:50] <greencookie> xt600e: i think you need firefox
[17:50] <Kenzumi> hello
[17:50] <ushaba> i was just surprised i've never even heard of it
[17:50] <ushaba> wasn't sure if it was a command or not
[17:50] <abadtooth> Yasumoto:  I like 1400x1050 but I think it's squashing a little..
[17:50] <Kenzumi> some problem to update samba
[17:50] <stefg> tehlam3: no way. you need to build from source or you will get caught in dependency hell
[17:50] <devilsreject> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI <--- did everything there the drivers working fine i only need DIRECT RENDERING working
[17:50] <LjL-Temp> xt600e: nothing. it should be there. check your sources.list - if you didn't have networking during installation, some repositories (all) will have been commented out.
[17:50] <greencookie> xt600e: to install epiphany i think u need firefox as well.
[17:50] <desertc> tehlam3: did you check in Synaptic for it?
[17:50] <Inuyasha32246> ok
[17:50] <Kenzumi> error 403
[17:50] <rahmen> Anyone who knows if nVidia eth controllers tend not to work using ubuntu? I just installed ubuntu and my wireless doesn't work
[17:50] <LjL-Temp> xt600e: re-enable them from Synaptic.
[17:50] <abadtooth> Yasumoto:  I mean the 1050..
[17:50] <Pici> greencookie: negative.
[17:50] <Inuyasha32246> devilsreject | I CAN HELP YOU
[17:50] <Inuyasha32246> send pm
[17:50] <greencookie> Pici: ah. ok. always thought they had a similar feel:)
[17:50] <xt600e> I have firefox
[17:51] <desertc> tehlam3: Talk with the MOTU team about adding the package to the Ubuntu repository.
[17:51] <Inuyasha32246> i have herpes
[17:51] <Kenzumi> it seems that the debs are not in the server
[17:51] <Inuyasha32246> your point
[17:51] <genii> ushaba: Yes, blkid /dev/devicename
[17:51] <Pici> greencookie: actually.. I lied.
[17:51] <devilsreject> Inuyasha32246 -- swet thanx what i got to do
[17:51] <adac2> do i need ndiswrapper for 3com 3CRUSB20075 ?
[17:51] <Kenzumi> hope it will come up soon
[17:51] <Inuyasha32246> open a pm
[17:51] <Yasumoto> abadtooth: if you ever accidentally screw over your x server configuration, man xorg.conf is your friend
[17:51] <xt600e> synaptic  gives me an error message aswell
[17:52] <Kenzumi> i know
[17:52] <abadtooth> Yasumoto:  I've always screwed them up whenever I messed with them..
[17:52] <bkline> What do I do to get the installer to tell me more about what it's doing when it's spending an inordinate amount of time on one step?
[17:52] <Kenzumi> the debs in question are not in the server in fact
[17:52] <gamed|ph> hi, anybody knows how to see the i/o load of my harddisk? the load of my system is high and i think the hdd is the bottle-neck...
[17:53] <Inuyasha32246> devilsreject?
[17:53] <Inuyasha32246> i sent a pm
[17:53] <brobostigon> use the alternate install cd, and press alt/f4, and that will show you all the messages during installaltion
[17:53] <rahmen> Is there any known trouble with the new ubuntu version? Like that wireless doesn't work?
[17:53] <greencookie> can someone help me fix up the ctrl+alt+f1-f9 keys on my ubuntu?
[17:53] <desertc> rahmen: There are thousands of open bugs.
[17:54] <genii> gamed|ph: Try dbench
[17:54] <Inuyasha32246> is he afk?
[17:54] <desertc> Helping to triage and close bugs is greatly appreciated!
[17:54] <desertc> !bugs
[17:54] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[17:54] <ganymede> greencookie: are they disabled in xorg.conf? i think ubuntu started disabled them because doze users pressed them and died
[17:54] <bkline> brobostigon: thx
[17:54] <rahmen> desertc: You know if there's any trouble with nVidia ethernet controllers? Do I need any drivers for it?
[17:54] <Pici> Inuyasha32246: You need to be registered and identified to send pm's.
[17:54] <Pici> !register > Inuyasha32246 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[17:54] <xt600e> LjL-Temp: What should I check for in sources.list - I have checked but I don't know what to enter in order to get epiphany-browser...
[17:54] <greencookie> ganymede: that might be how can I check?
[17:54] <stefg> gamed|ph: sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/<yourdrive> will give you a bogus benchmark on hd performance. If you need better benchmarks then 'apt-cache search benchmark' and look for bonnie or some other i/o profiler
[17:54] <brobostigon> welcome bkline
[17:54] <Inuyasha32246> devilsreject
[17:55] <devilsreject> yep
[17:55] <Inuyasha32246> my AIM is surfjdh
[17:55] <LjL> xt600e, put it into the pastebin and i'll uncomment the needed stuff for you.
[17:55] <Inuyasha32246> IM me
[17:55] <genii> !info epiphany
[17:55] <ubotu> epiphany: clone of Boulder Dash game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-4 (gutsy), package size 63 kB, installed size 236 kB
[17:55] <devilsreject> k
[17:55] <JimmyDee> guys I could really use a hand here, it wont recognize a library I need, a little help?
[17:55] <Pici> genii: epiphany-browser
[17:55] <genii> !info epiphany-browser
[17:55] <ubotu> epiphany-browser: Intuitive GNOME web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3527 kB, installed size 14412 kB
[17:55] <genii> pici: LOL yes i realised
[17:55] <ushaba> i'm gonna need some help with this fstab file
[17:55] <ganymede> greencookie: grep -i dontzap /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:56] <devilsreject> k
[17:56] <Yasumoto> abadtooth: there's a command using dpkg that will allow you to change your xorg settings
[17:56] <ushaba> i've got a listing for /dev/sda5 which claims it is swap
[17:56] <mtinoco> i used mplayer -dumpstream to get a single vob file from a dvd, and now I'm looking for a good graphical tool to compress it down, any ideas?
[17:56] <Yasumoto> (it's not actually a gui, but sorta like that)
[17:56] <ushaba> and now i've got the UUID from blkid
[17:56] <genii> ushaba: a line like: UUID=8534898e-024d-4c49-95c2-aa6280b1e9c5 none            swap    sw              0       0
[17:56] <abadtooth> Is there a way to Display 1680x1050 on my new Acer AL2223W I have Gutsy and a Geforce 7950GT with the Nvidia restricted drivers installed the driver version is 100.14.19, the max resolution I can seem to display is 1440x1050
[17:56] <harushimo> how do I download codecs like xvid, mp3, ogg media
[17:56] <genii> ushaba: except use your uuid and not mine
[17:56] <abadtooth> Yasumoto:  with a text editor?
[17:56] <ushaba> what about the previous line for /dev/sda5 ?
[17:56] <ganymede> !codecs
[17:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:56] <ushaba> is that to be deleted or commented out?
[17:56] <aladinsane> it took me 2 weeks but now im finished configuring and installing everything i need in Xubuntu and it works perfectly, my question is: is there anyway i can save the whole shebang in case something happens so i can just revert to this super state?
[17:57] <genii> ushaba: comment out the old line
[17:57] <stefg> !backup | aladinsane
[17:57] <ganymede> aladinsane: dd the partition elsewhere
[17:57] <ubotu> aladinsane: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[17:57] <Switch> Hi guys; I'm having trouble installing UT2K4 on my Ubuntu 7.10; It keeps saying my key is invlid
[17:57] <Pici> JimmyDee: What are you looking for?
[17:57] <dmi3on> i dont understan what i should type //servername/sharename  /media/mountname  smbfs  guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[17:57] <dmi3on> ?
[17:57] <ganymede> Switch: contact your vendor?
[17:57] <aladinsane> ok, thnx guys!
[17:57] <genii> Work, AFK a minute or 2
[17:57] <Yasumoto> abadtooth: hm, I'm looking up the command
[17:57] <JimmyDee> looking for the command that will link a library to an executeable, i.e. the asterisk manager to libami.so.1
[17:58] <Yasumoto> abadtooth: it's a 'gui' (kinda) but in the terminal
[17:58] <abadtooth> Yasumoto:  Okay, thanks ;)
[17:58] <ushaba> it works!
[17:58] <sethk> JimmyDee, that happens at compile time
[17:58] <ushaba> thanks all
[17:58] <Switch> ganymede: I bought it some time ago, so I cannot return it
[17:58] <Yasumoto> sorta like how the alternate installer looks like/works
[17:58] <ushaba> thanks genii
[17:58] <JimmyDee> sethk, that would be what time it is RIGHT NOW
[17:58] <Pici> dmi3on: I've always had to specify the IP address of the server when making my fstab lines, not the name.
[17:58] <abadtooth> Yasumoto:  yeah I think I used that once
[17:58] <sethk> JimmyDee, ok, that helps; can you be more specific?
[17:58] <Switch> does anyone know how to install UT2K4 manually? without the installer script?
[17:58] <greencookie> ganymede: whats dontzap supposed to do? I'm ganymede ok I got my Xorg.conf open in front of me
[17:59] <sfears> hello
[17:59] <follia> hello everyone. here is the scenario i have if someone can help
[17:59] <ganymede> greencookie: dontzap disabled the ctrl+alt+backspace combination, don't remember if it disables the other ones, too
[17:59] <JimmyDee> I know its a ./configure --with-ami-lib=/usr/local/lib but that doesnt seem to work
[17:59] <brobostigon> the time it takes to boot the live cd, it takes the same time to install entirly from alternate cd.
[17:59] <bts3685> hey, does anyone know off the top of their head where i can find the Code of Ethics? is it on the wiki, on ubuntu.com?
[17:59] <abadtooth> Switch: You should contact the games help service..
[17:59] <ushaba> i think there is an installer description on the ubuntuforums for ut2k4
[17:59] <greencookie> ganymede: ctrl+alt+bkspc already worked:) its just the others that didnt.
[17:59] <ushaba> at least for the demo
[17:59] <follia> I have a beautiful laptop that has its USB not working and with no cd rom
[17:59] <dmi3on> can any tell my how to set up network between win and ubuntu i install SMBFS, i can see in windows ubuntu com. but cant access asking for pass
[18:00] <Switch> thx guys!
[18:00] <sethk> JimmyDee, what are you building?
[18:00] <follia> I took off the hdd and installed ubuntu on that hard drive on another machine
[18:00] <JimmyDee> asterisk gui manager
[18:00] <stefg> !install | follia
[18:00] <ubotu> follia: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[18:00] <sfears> i'm trying to apt-get something and it tells me i need to have the 6.10 CD.. i have no such cd.  How do i procede?
[18:00] <follia> now i need to make that hard drive bootable?
[18:00] <jsschmid1> stefg: i did a feity install with a feisty installer (netinstall) and upgraded to gutsy. So usally it should work... Where can I find the gutsy netisntaller? on the .ISO? Because I have to build a bootable USB key 'cause I dont have a CDROM...
[18:00] <JimmyDee> sethk, and the asterisk people are snoozin
[18:00] <greencookie> sfears: checked ure repo list? maybe update them?
[18:00] <bts3685> ushaba: who was asking about UT2K4?
[18:00] <Yasumoto> sfears: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:00] <sfears> alright
[18:01] <dmi3on> can any tell my how to set up network between win and ubuntu i install SMBFS, i can see in windows ubuntu com. but cant access asking for pass
[18:01] <follia> ubotu, you are right, and I know that, but I don't have other ways at the moment, not through network
[18:01] <brobostigon> samba
[18:01] <sethk> JimmyDee, try using the full path to the library, rather than just /usr/local/lib
[18:01] <Yasumoto> and comment out the thing in the beginning line about using a cd as your archive
[18:01] <sethk> JimmyDee, /usr/local/lib is the default, so that argument isn't going to change anything  :)
[18:01] <Yasumoto> sfears: ^
[18:01] <stefg> jsschmid1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation has some tricks for you
[18:01] <JimmyDee> sethk, thats the directory the lib is installed in, I can see the dern thing, but it cant
[18:01] <adac2> i wanna install ubuntu on a lvm where also a fedora system is on there. Is tihis possible?
[18:01] <sethk> JimmyDee, is it telling you it can't find the library?
[18:02] <ganymede> dmi3on: -o username=someusername,password=somepassword
[18:02] <JimmyDee> sethk, ama: error while loading shared libraries: libami.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:02] <sethk> JimmyDee, I know that the library is there, I'm just saying that, since it's the default location, providing the directory to ./configure can't fix the problem.
[18:02] <sethk> JimmyDee, you mean when you are trying to run it?
[18:02] <JimmyDee> sethk, good point
[18:02] <greencookie> should I dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[18:02] <JimmyDee> sethk, yes at execution time
[18:02] <greencookie> to reset keyboard layout.
[18:03] <dmi3on> how to set up network between win and ubuntu i install SMBFS (and need help), i can see in windows ubuntu com. but cant access asking for pass, in ubuntu i can access foder which is in windows but cant link  it on desk to
[18:03] <dmi3on> plz help
[18:03] <sethk> JimmyDee, try        export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[18:03] <Yasumoto> abadtooth: sweet, the command's located in xorg.conf (/etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[18:03] <Yasumoto> abadtooth:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[18:03] <abadtooth> Yasumoto:  okay lemme check
[18:03] <Roudi> Hey folks!  Purchasing a new machine with the intention of installing Ubuntu on it, and checking out hardware compatability.  I've been Googling every piece of hardware and everything seems supported except for the graphics card.  It's an  Nvidia GeForce 8500 GT 256 MB.  Most I can find on Google is that some people do have driver issues, and Envy might solve them, but I've found no definitive help.
[18:03] <sethk> JimmyDee, first do    echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH    see what the current value of it is
[18:03] <dajhorn> adac2: Yes, but be very careful.
[18:03] <Yasumoto> abadtooth: it's at the very end of the comments
[18:03] <abadtooth> Yasumoto:  okay, lemme try it, thanks!
[18:04] <follia> ubotu, I have been there and 1- i don't have a running installation on the same machine, the OS it was running is damaged 2- i don't have cdrom 3- i dont' have a working usb
[18:04] <Roudi> Can anyone confirm that there is, indeed, a method of getting a GeForce 8500 running under Ubuntu?
[18:04] <kladius> I need help with dvd playback can some one help me?
[18:04] <Gerrit> How do I tell my WLAN-card to connect using 802.11b rather than 802.11g? It is a Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection.
[18:04] <JimmyDee> sethk, thank you kindly sir, its on like donkey kong now
[18:04] <follia> can Iplug the hdd as a usb and make it bootable?
[18:04] <sethk> JimmyDee, excellent  :)
[18:04] <Gerrit> It seems to try to connect using 802.11g to a wireless router which is configured to use 802.11b; hence, it fails (at 28%, according to knetworkmanager)
[18:04] <dajhorn> kladius: Start here: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[18:05] <sfears> alright.. that kinda worked, guess that package was only avail on the 6.10 cd
[18:05] <Yasumoto> abadtooth: you have to use spacebar to select things, I believe. make sure that you have 1680 highlighted
[18:05] <sethk> Roudi, In general, yes.  sometimes there are less general problems; does 3d work, does DRI work, that sort of thing, but in general it certainly works.
[18:05] <santh_> what is gnome how to install it
[18:05] <Yasumoto> abadtooth: and if it breaks, go to a console and redo the command back to 1400
[18:05] <sethk> Roudi, I don't run that particular nvidia card, but I run four other nvidia cards without significant issues.
[18:05] <dajhorn> kladius: Ubuntu is not bundled with the libdvdcss2 package, which is what you need to play movies on DVD media.
[18:05] <sethk> Roudi, if you are a gamer, though, my opinion is worthless
[18:05] <Pici> santh_: Gnome is the default desktop environment for Ubuntu.
[18:05] <golem1> so i'm going to set up ubuntu on a pc that'll sit under a TV and play xvid/dvd files.  choice of geforce 4000mx or radeon 9200.. which would you suggest?
[18:05] <lwl> hehe
[18:05] <abadtooth> Yasumoto:  what would I type for that?
[18:06] <santh_> kde means
[18:06] <Roudi> sethk - I wouldn't say I'm a gamer, but I definitely intend to try running The Orange Box on this new machine (using Wine to run Steam and the games).
[18:06] <jadrus>  /m irc.supernut.de:7000
[18:06] <santh_> is it possible to chat personal matter here
[18:06] <bts3685> whoever was asking about Unreal Tournament 2004: check out the list of channels here and the howto- http://pastebin.ca/777291
[18:06] <sethk> Roudi, then you probably need to find someone who at least runs wine with that particular card
[18:07] <abadtooth> Yasumoto:  I'll need to restart x wont I?
[18:07] <dajhorn> golem1: Go with the nvidia card.
[18:07] <dmi3on> i dotn understand this #
[18:07] <dmi3on> he name of the share is sharename.
[18:07] <dmi3on> #
[18:07] <dmi3on> You want to mount the share in a folder mountname
[18:07] <bts3685> Roudi: i have a 7950 GT, let me know how it goes!
[18:07] <kladius> dajhorn I am new to linux how do i install libdvdcss2?
[18:07] <ron__> is there a trick to get tftp-hpa running on ubuntu
[18:07] <Yasumoto> abadtooth: yeah, ctrl+alt+delete
[18:08] <Roudi> That could be tough, sethk ;) Awfully specific combination.  I'll hit Google again and see if I find any more specific answers.  At least I know the machine itself will run with the card.  Thanks!
[18:08] <Yasumoto> wait, ctrl+alt+backspace
[18:08] <dmi3on> what it means The name of the share is sharename.
[18:08] <dmi3on> ?
[18:08] <Yasumoto> that restarts the x server
[18:08] <abadtooth> Yasumoto:  whats the revert command in case it's broken?
[18:08] <bts3685> Roudi: also, ask in #gametome
[18:08] <dajhorn> kladius: Click it and read it:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[18:08] <bts3685> and ##opengl
[18:08] <bts3685> and #linux-gamers.net
[18:09] <Yasumoto> abadtooth: that same dpkg one
[18:09] <genii> back
[18:09] <thesource> i just install ubuntu and my wirelee card dont wokr
[18:09] <Yasumoto> abadtooth: check out xorg.conf to see it again
[18:09] <golem1> dajhorn, thanks for the advice
[18:09] <thesource> i have bradcom wierless card
[18:10] <jarnos> Hi, anybody know in which package gnome-sound-recorder is?
[18:10] <Roudi> Thanks, bts3685
[18:11] <thesource> i need driver for my wireless card
[18:11] <dajhorn> jarnos:  gnome-media and gnome-media-common
[18:11] <bts3685> thesource: last i checked, you need to use ndis-wrapper and the firmware cutter. but that was way back with feisty...
[18:11] <thesource> what what im using
[18:11] <dmi3on> can any one help me with network plz
[18:11] <dmi3on> i have win. com and ubuntu com.
[18:12] <dmi3on> and what share folder
[18:12] <dmi3on> i am very new
[18:12] <dmi3on> here
[18:12] <abadtooth> Yasumoto:  thanks man! worked like a charm :D
[18:12] <desertc> !enter
[18:12] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:12] <desertc> I saw you here last night, dmi3on
[18:12] <hExDj> I am using the LiveCD to try out Ubuntu
[18:13] <hExDj> how can I find out what fonts are installed?
[18:13] <desertc> hExDj: Glad to hear it!
[18:13] <dmi3on> desertc: i am here all the time from now
[18:13] <Paddy_EIRE> !samba | dmi3on
[18:13] <ubotu> dmi3on: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[18:13] <dmi3on> Paddy_EIRE: i dont understan every think there
[18:13] <magnetron> how do i change which keyboard gutsy should use? it have to be available pre-login
[18:14] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I turn off the need to enter the password when waking up from hibernate/suspend?
[18:14] <dmi3on> Paddy_EIRE: like #
[18:14] <dmi3on> The name of the share is sharename.
[18:14] <dmi3on> #
[18:14] <dmi3on> You want to mount the share in a folder mountname.
[18:14] <hExDj> how can I find out what fonts are installed whe using the LiveCD
[18:14] <dmi3on> ups sorry
[18:14] <MilhousePunkRock> !paste | dmi3on
[18:14] <Paddy_EIRE> dmi3on, its very straight forward just take your time and read through it :)
[18:14] <ubotu> dmi3on: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:14] <jarnos> dajhorn: thanks, I might use it in Xubuntu.
[18:14] <thesource> how od i updat to to gusty
[18:14] <magnetron> !upgrade | thesource
[18:14] <ubotu> thesource: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[18:14] <abadtooth> Yasumoto:  thanks again for your help ;)
[18:15] <dmi3on> Paddy_EIRE: i understand i read it like 2 hours and still can't get it plz give me some tips :)
[18:15] <bloony> Im trying to install speed shaper, a plugin for azureus,but I get error saying no suitable parser found.. whats wrong?
[18:15] <sfears> i managed to get my linksys wireless card working, now i'm trying to tackle the internal 802.11b, i found the chip set Prism 2.5, but can't seem to find drivers for it, i copied over my working windows drivers but it said installation may be incomplete
[18:16] <Paddy_EIRE> dmi3on, all that I can say is that I followed that factoid and viola!.. works
[18:16] <core64> are there currently security problems w/ the samba packages? I cannot install them?
[18:16] <grindcore> who can spend 20 minutes to give me some answers about install ubuntu 7.10 ? pls
[18:16] <Paddy_EIRE> dmi3on, !ask
[18:16] <hExDj> how can I find out what fonts are installed whe using the LiveCD
[18:16] <Paddy_EIRE> oop
[18:16] <PiterDeVries> hi, I'm trying to install kubuntu 6.1 and I have some hard time trying to: 1. Start it from the CD, 2. Running the system after installing in text mode. Any tips on where can I find some additional info on instalation? I couldn't find anything relevant on ubuntu.com :/
[18:16] <void^> hExDj: open nautilus and go to fonts://
[18:16] <core64> grindcore: ask your questions, and someone will try and reply
[18:16] <ganymede> grindcore: just ask
[18:17] <dmi3on> Paddy_EIRE:  The name of the share is sharename. what is means
[18:17] <Paddy_EIRE> huh...
[18:17] <sfears> Piter: it might be some kind of bios setting.. sometimes the cdrom is set to auto and doesn't auto detect correctally
[18:17] <thesource> will dping this update set my wireless ?
[18:18] <sfears> i think it's  primary master.. set it to cd-rom instead of auto
[18:18] <grindcore> what i need to do before boot ubuntu for install ? i tried and was there plenty of files which wasnt loaded - i need to make all partitions without ntfs - put together to unpartitioned space,.. something more ???
[18:18] <PiterDeVries> sfears: I don't think so. I was able to install the system in text mode...
[18:19] <minus198> I have this weird thing with videos. If I play them, they look like this: http://dump.myskul.net/files/compizplusvlcsux.png But if I take a snapshot while playing them, they look like this(perfectly fine..): http://dump.myskul.net/files/vlcsnap-6990050.png
[18:19] <minus198> wth is causing that?
[18:19] <minus198> I use compiz, and thats probably the thing that fails
[18:19] <Lunar_Lamp> !samba
[18:19] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[18:19] <Lunar_Lamp> Is there a known issue with the samba updates not being able to be downloaded at the moment?
[18:19] <pucko_> peterdevries, so you have installed it? it just doesn't run as you expect?
[18:19] <sfears> PiterDeVries: where does it hang now that you have it installed with text mode
[18:20] <PiterDeVries> sfears: the problem seems to appear after the initial system load. The LCD turns into "unsupported mode" and everything stops... I don't even know where to look for the source of the problem
[18:20] <grindcore> what i need to do before boot ubuntu for install ? i tried and was there plenty of files which wasnt loaded - i need to make all partitions without ntfs - put together to unpartitioned space,.. and something more ???
[18:20] <core64> Lunar_Lamp: I'm having the same problem, and asked the same question
[18:20] <sulan> what causes lshal to report "power_management.can_suspend_to_ram = false  (bool)"? What would make it 'true'?
[18:20] <sethk> minus198, if the frame buffer feature (in X) is on, turn it off.
[18:20] <minus198> sethk, How do I do that then?
[18:20] <Lunar_Lamp> core64, any response? ;-)
[18:20] <minus198> sethk, something I can edit in xorg.conf?
[18:20] <PiterDeVries> sfears: I get the kubutu logo with the blue line and when it finishes it stops
[18:20] <core64> Lunar_Lamp: none yet. waiting patiently....
[18:20] <musashi> i'm still looking for an easy tool to recode an .iso or .avi (or other format) to a smaller size for playing on a psp, etc. I've tried k9copy, devede, and vlc. none seem to offer a simple way to select a target resolution and shrink. note this is not encrypted video.
[18:21] <minus198> musashi, ffmpg..
[18:21] <sethk> minus198, yes, but first look in the X log and see if it is actually on.  Look for fbdev or fbmod (frame buffer device or frame buffer module) or something similar.
[18:21] <agreif> hi
[18:21] <gordonjcp> musashi: ffmpeg or mencoder
[18:21] <sfears> PiterDeVries: ohh, i had that problem after my 7.10 upgrade. if i used my real time kernel i got the same thing. i used the generic kernel and didn't have a problem
[18:21] <musashi> minus198: yeah, actually tried ffmpeg but it wasn't overly "simple" didn
[18:21] <dajhorn> minus198: Use "SystemPreferences -> Appearance -> Effects " and set it to none, and try it again.
[18:21] <musashi> 't try mencoder
[18:21] <sethk> grindcore, the installer can do its own partitioning.  You only have to worry about partitions if you are keeping an existing installation and want to dual boot
[18:21] <agreif> which python version is in feisty?
[18:22] <minus198> dajhorn, already done.. And it didn't help.. I need to restart X to get it to work
[18:22] <sfears> PiterDeVries: i'm gonna need some more help on this one, but if you edit your boot/grub/menu.lst file and point to a different kernel (not sure how to figure out which one) a generic kernel it will proally fix you up
[18:22] <dajhorn> minus198: Okay, per mushashi, you probably have a framebuffer or a driver glitch.
[18:22] <grindcore> i have winxp with 2 partiotions and I want to put down everything what is there - make a clean install of ubuntu
[18:22] <musashi> gordonjcp: is mencoder command line? i was hoping to find a simple gui. i'm trying to impress hs students with the variety of cool tools available
[18:22] <dajhorn> s/mushashi/musashi/  (oops)
[18:23] <sethk> grindcore, if you want to destroy what's already on the disk, just tell the installer to use the entire disk
[18:23] <sfears> actually you might not have a boot/grub/menu.lst file yet, so you might have to make one
[18:23] <Ubuntupwns> agreif, just look in the synaptic package manger for "Python" and  it will show what version is installed or not
[18:23] <PiterDeVries> sfears: I'll try playing with CD boot options
[18:23] <minus198> musashi, Non of those fbmod fbdev was found in Xorg.0.log
[18:23] <grindcore> but i cannot start properly the boot of ubuntu - start loading - lot of tasks are good - and then is plenty unloaded files for install
[18:24] <sethk> minus198, probably not the issue, then.
[18:24] <musashi> minus198: sorry, i don't get the reference to xorg
[18:24] <grindcore> cannot start properly install, sorry, my mistake
[18:24] <sethk> grindcore, what happens, exactly?
[18:24] <sethk> musashi, he was responding to my comment and got the nicks mixed.  :)
[18:24] <core64> Lunar_Lamp: I did a search for samba_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_amd64.deb (I'm on 64bit) on google, and I found this website. It explains some... http://secunia.com/advisories/27679/
[18:24] <musashi> ah
[18:24] <minus198> musashi, I meant sethk... I saw your lines and accidentally tabbed your name :P
[18:24] <jsschmid1> I am running GUTSY with kernel 2.6.20-16-generic, obviously something went wrong during the UPDATE... is it possible to update my kernel or will it even worse as before?
[18:25] <musashi> no worries
[18:25] <sethk> jsschmid1, we can't know if it will make it worse unless you tell us how bad it already is  :)
[18:25] <core64> jsschmid1: what went wrong? why do you think you need to update kernel?
[18:25] <Poul|Raider> Every time i boot up, and logged on, it prompt me to ask if i want to keep gnome settings or use x(keyboard). if i press keep gnome the keybord is configured right, but if i say use x its useing wronge settings, but if i check my xorg.conf then it is set to the right setup pc105 and dk etc
[18:26] <minus198> sethk, So you are out of ideas?
[18:26] <grindcore> after boot - i select the install, then was quick loading of parts of install or whatever and then some type of files - just changing the code number- was slowly trying to load- but wasnt successfull
[18:26] <jsschmid1> core64: because it is not the current Kernel of Gutsy but of Feisty, so I think there are some issues. One of it beeing missing header files for my 2.6.20-16-generic Kernel
[18:26] <sethk> minus198, yes, unfortunately, that's the only thing I've seen that causes that problem.  Not saying there aren't other reasons, just that I don't know about them.
[18:26] <scottj> How do I search for the largest files on / (and not include other partitions mounted like /home)?
[18:27] <Reng> can you use "hddtemp" to detect external drive temperature?
[18:27] <sfears> PiterDeVries: what version are you installing?
[18:27] <jsschmid1> sethk because it is not the current Kernel of Gutsy but of Feisty, so I think there are some issues. One of it beeing missing header files for my 2.6.20-16-generic Kernel
[18:27] <bts3685> Reng: i wouldn't see why not
[18:27] <PiterDeVries> sfears: 6.1
[18:27] <minus198> sethk, ok.. But where can I dissable it then? I can give it a shot eventhough it isn't in the logs...
[18:27] <core64> is synaptic or aptitude recommending a kernel upgrade?
[18:27] <sfears> you should download a new live cd and see what happens
[18:27] <PiterDeVries> sfears: any idea how to get deatails what the heck is going on instead o blue progress bar with kubuntu logo?
[18:28] <dajhorn> scottj:  $ find / -xdev -size +100M (or somesuch)
[18:28] <Reng> how can you manual setup "hddtemp" to detect external drive temperature?
[18:28] <sethk> minus198, you can look in xorg.conf, for a module that has anything relevant to frame buffer.  I don't think you'll find it, though, because it would be reflected in the log.
[18:28] <sfears> mabey alt+ctrl+f1
[18:28] <sfears> i don't know if that works at boot or not
[18:28] <PiterDeVries> tried that :/ without success
[18:28] <sethk> jsschmid1, that's not really a problem; the headers are not installed automatically but it is easy to install them.
[18:28] <sfears> ummm
[18:28] <sfears> i'm posotive there's a way to do that
[18:28] <Yasumoto> Poul|Raider: I have that issue too. I know there's a fix, but I haven't had time to find it yet
[18:28] <PiterDeVries> did show something but lost it very fast
[18:28] <Yasumoto> Poul|Raider: lemme google it really quick
[18:28] <bruenig> PiterDeVries, sed -e 'si/qu\ietiig' -e 'sisplashiig' -i /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:29] <Poul|Raider> oki Yasumoto
[18:29] <jsschmid1> sethk: should be easy, but it doesnt work with get-apt ...
[18:29] <sfears> i think there's an extra slash in there
[18:29] <sethk> jsschmid1, what happens?
[18:29] <dajhorn> scottj:  Try also "Applications -> Accessories -> Disk Usage Analyzer"
[18:29] <sfears> piter i think your solution lies in that boot/grub/menu.lst file
[18:29] <minus198> sethk, didn't find anything, as you predicted..
[18:30] <bruenig> PiterDeVries, first command was off my fault typo, here it is: sed -e 'siqu\ietiig' -e 'sisplashiig' -i /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:30] <Poul|Raider> Anyone know if i am able to make any use of my remote control(from a creative-xfi front). If there is any way to use the inputs sent by the remote to execute things?
[18:30] <PiterDeVries> where should I enter these? I can't get any console or any other input
[18:31] <PiterDeVries> the only thing I'm left with are boot options of installer DVD
[18:31] <sfears> you have a command line there
[18:31] <sfears> i think it's f6
[18:31] <PiterDeVries> ok, thx :) I'll check that
[18:31] <powhatanBob> how can i find where java is installed on my machine?  Specifically i need to set the javapath variable in a makefile to compile
[18:31] <bruenig> PiterDeVries, oh you don't actually have it installed yet?
[18:31] <PiterDeVries> I did, but it's unable to load :/
[18:32] <sfears> Pieter.. press c at the boot menu
[18:32] <void^> powhatanBob: 'which java', 'update-alternatives --list java'
[18:32] <PiterDeVries> actually Esc helped
[18:32] <sfears> wait.. crap, you have the live cd boot menu or a grub boot menu.. if it's grub it will say loading grub, then show a menu
[18:33] <PiterDeVries> Live CD boot menu
[18:33] <PiterDeVries> now I've got "boot:"
[18:33] <sfears> hold
[18:34] <powhatanBob> TYVM void
[18:34] <regis_> bonsoir tt le monde
[18:35] <PiterDeVries> so I'm more or less in the point: "boot options" :/
[18:35] <sfears> let's see if this works, at boot hit f6, should bring up a command line, type sudo gedit boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:35] <bruenig> gksudo gedit
[18:35] <sfears> i don't think it will work
[18:35] <PiterDeVries> ok, just a sec
[18:35] <sfears> yeah yeah gksudo gedit
[18:35] <bruenig> wait, no, not gedit at all
[18:35] <regis_> do you speak french???
[18:35] <bruenig> gedit is graphical, you will need to use vim or nano or joe or any of those
[18:36] <sfears> no gedit?
[18:36] <sfears> ohh yeah
[18:36] <sfears> vi?
[18:36] <PiterDeVries> .... nope. I'm back in live CD menu :/
[18:36] <bruenig> vi too if you want to use that
[18:36] <PiterDeVries> F6 gives me boot options
[18:36] <sfears> yeah
[18:36] <sfears> backspace all the way
[18:36] <Coolio> kalispera
[18:36] <Peaker> http://security.ubuntu.com is returning 403 forbidden errors?
[18:37] <Coolio> good evening
[18:37] <PiterDeVries> I'm not sure if the commandline is available here anyway
[18:37] <sfears> those boot options are a command line
[18:37] <gavi_> sorry i was disconnected. could anyone give me some info on starting a webhosting service...
[18:37] <brobostigon> evening
[18:37] <BlueDevil> Peaker: i'm getting the same 403 forbidden
[18:37] <Peaker> BlueDevil: any idea why?
[18:37] <BlueDevil> Peaker: nope :(
[18:37] <PiterDeVries> but when I tried to play with them it got me to the point that it expects me to point a kernel to load
[18:37] <Hilikus> does anyone have an idea on this?
[18:37] <Hilikus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3765837
[18:38] <Pici> BlueDevil, Peaker: I think its a routing issue, I'm not having an issue here.
[18:38] <PiterDeVries> so, ok it's a command line but definatelly not a shell ;)
[18:38] <gavi_> im using ubuntu 7, i installed apache, php mysql and zpanel.. all the plugins for zpanel arent working yet, but im not even sure if i should continue because this is a regular desktop pc
[18:38] <BlueDevil> Pici: can you install samba?
[18:39] <sethk> Hilikus, probably need to add some udev configuration
[18:39] <PiterDeVries> ok, I managed to get startup details from boot options =]
[18:39] <sfears> anyone know a bash text editor that would be on 6.1?
[18:39] <Pici> BlueDevil: Could I?
[18:39] <sethk> gavi_, as opposed to what?
[18:40] <Roudi> Probably a dumb question,  but from the Desktop CD, is it possible to install Ubuntu on a machine with no previous OS?
[18:40] <sfears> yes
[18:40] <sethk> sfears, vim, nano, gedit,
[18:40] <sfears> gedit is graphical
[18:40] <Kl4m> Yes
[18:40] <Kl4m> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba-common_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb = 403 Forbidden ???
[18:40] <Roudi> Good to know.
[18:40] <gavi_> sethk well im using a desktop computer which i freshly installed ubuntu
[18:40] <sfears> tries to load hardware or something.. doesn't work from boot
[18:40] <BlueDevil> Kl4m: apparently so
[18:40] <sfears> i'll try vim
[18:40] <sethk> sfears, yes, it is still run from the shell.  If you mean console, say console.
[18:40] <sfears> nope.. not console
[18:40] <sfears> boot menu
[18:41] <sfears> live cd boot menu
[18:41] <gavi_> what is required of me to make this a lugit hosting server, or do i need something else?
[18:41] <sethk> gavi_, I'm not clear about what you are asking.
[18:41] <charsetdisaster> hi
[18:41] <charsetdisaster> guya
[18:41] <sethk> sfears, you are in the grub shell there
[18:41] <charsetdisaster> sorry guys
[18:41] <PiterDeVries> ok, can I hold the booting sequence a bit? Tried the Ctrl+I but nothing happened and I'm back in the same spot... without shell
[18:41] <jsschmid1> sethk: now it works, there were some deactivated repos, I think that was why it wasn't working ... but I am still with my feisty Kernel using gutsy
[18:41] <sfears> vim & gedit give me all kinds of errors
[18:41] <sethk> jsschmid1, that's not, in general, a problem
[18:41] <charsetdisaster> sorry how can i see character enciding windows-iso in linux?
[18:42] <gavi_> sethk, i want to make a profitable web hosting "server"
[18:42] <sethk> sfears, start with vim, it's simpler, and give us the first error
[18:42] <charsetdisaster> in order to see subtitles
[18:42] <gavi_> i want to offer webhosting to people whom need it
[18:42] <joevac>  
[18:42] <gavi_> at prices i choost, and not reselling another web hosting company
[18:42] <jsschmid1> sethk: ...wait ... I installed and apt-get did something, but I cant find the headerfiles anyway
[18:42] <sfears> nano give invalid compressed format system halted
[18:42] <charsetdisaster> i came to windows dual boot
[18:42] <sethk> gavi_, the only real difference between a server and a workstation is whether you run the GUI on the machine.  Any machine can act as a server.
[18:42] <Kl4m> sfears, sethk: the GRUB shell doesn't have access to programs, Linux isn't loaded yet
[18:42] <charsetdisaster> with ubuntu
[18:43] <arthur_kalm> Hi everyone, I'm using a D-Link DWL-G122 revision A2 USB wireless adapter. Every time the computer boots up it connects perfectly to the wireless network. However, when I try to access the internet, the connection magically disappears. The strangest part is that behaviour is happening on one account but not another.
[18:43] <gavi_> sethk, this i know, but i dont know any legal issues
[18:43] <sethk> Kl4m, indeed, so he is not really in the boot menu, but I don't exactly know where he is.
[18:43] <golem1> for a few small-load sites an average desktop pc will do just fine, however i highly suggest you have at least a second 'identical' testbed server, for trying things without hosing your production box
[18:43] <charsetdisaster> and i can't see the files writen in notepad like srt (subtitles)
[18:43] <gavi_> sethk, what about client backups?
[18:43] <Kl4m> sethk a recovery console?
[18:43] <gavi_> contracts,?
[18:43] <n4p1> hello, a questioin to imwheel: is it possible to configure a mousekey, which gets the function of pressing three keys (from the keyboard). for example Alt_L|Control_L|Right.
[18:43] <arthur_kalm> I've tried removing and reading the troublesome account but that has not helped. I can't see how it would make a difference based on the account.
[18:43] <arthur_kalm> *readding
[18:43] <sethk> gavi_, I don't see what any of that has to do with the hardware.
[18:44] <openexplorer> hi all, anybody here to solve a problem with an ati graphic card x1300/1550 series please? the issue: after ubuntu's splash screen and before login, the screen becomes black. unfortunately i said yes to proprietary drivers install... i red all the suitable posts and the question is: reconfigure xserver-xorg through the command line?
[18:44] <sfears> he has no boot menu & boot up fails before gnome is loaded.. how do you get in to edit files?
[18:44] <sethk> openexplorer, sure, you have nothing to lose by trying it.
[18:44] <Kl4m> openexplorer: press ctrl+alt+f1 to get a command line, then
[18:44] <jsschmid1> sethk: there is no /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/build/include
[18:44] <Kl4m> openexplorer: login and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:44] <charsetdisaster> ctrl + F1
[18:45] <gavi_> sethk, i dont believe big hosting companies are using desktops like myn, they have these big computers which look like refridgerators which i assume auto mirror the entire webserver to other locations daily
[18:45] <jsschmid1> what is the current gutsy kernel version?
[18:45] <charsetdisaster> yes ctrl alt f1
[18:45] <Reng> how cant setup "hddtemp" to detect 2 raid external drive?
[18:45] <bruenig> !info linux-image gutsy
[18:45] <ubotu> linux-image: Generic Linux kernel image.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB
[18:45] <Ax-Ax> My Ctrl-Alt-F1  doesn't work :(
[18:45] <arthur_kalm> openexplorer, or you could edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restore it back to the generic driver
[18:45] <golem1> are you trying to compete with dreamhost or bluehost or something gavi? ;-)
[18:45] <bruenig> jsschmid1, just one point release behind
[18:45] <nivekc1> anyone have any tips on how to make bit torrent more efficient on ubuntu?
[18:45] <charsetdisaster> but  please tell me how do make linux recognize windows  character encoding????????????//
[18:46] <bruenig> nivekc1, forward your ports on your router
[18:46] <bruenig> get on torrents that have seeders and so forth
[18:46] <Nyle> !usb
[18:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:46] <Nyle> how do you mount usb key
[18:46] <core64> nivekc1: don't use comcast as your ISP
[18:46] <bruenig> nivekc1, anything which makes bittorrent efficient on any other OS
[18:46] <frank_> Some files in http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/ are not marked readable. I can't access an update.
[18:46] <Nyle> !flash
[18:46] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:46] <Nyle> nope
[18:46] <arthur_kalm> charsetdisaster, what do you mean?
[18:46] <przemek_> !pl
[18:46] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[18:46] <Nyle> !mount usb
[18:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mount usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:46] <openexplorer> Kl4m:thanks, and what do you think about 8.42.3 proprietary driver? can it be safe to try a new install?
[18:46] <charsetdisaster> E please tell me how do make linux recognize windows  character encoding?
[18:47] <nivekc1> thats what i thought i did port forwarding
[18:47] <nivekc1> thanks
[18:47] <Nyle> !mount
[18:47] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[18:47] <openexplorer> sethk: thanks... :)
[18:47] <frank_> who can change permissions on the security.ubuntu.com server?
[18:47] <charsetdisaster> E please tell me how do make linux recognize windows  character encoding?
[18:47] <sfears> nyle is your usb drive plugged in
[18:47] <JordiGH> How do I disable that annoying bash thing for when I type the wrong command.
[18:47] <JordiGH> ?
[18:47] <BlueDevil> frank_: we don't know. we're having the same issue :)
[18:48] <tbic> I have a exchange account in evolution how do I get tracker to index it
[18:48] <tbic> ?
[18:48] <charsetdisaster> i searched everywhere but nothing!!!
[18:48] <gavi_> sethk, maybe i should refrase my question, is creating a webserver from a ubuntu desktop machine recommended?
[18:48] <frank_> Jordigh, the thing that says install this command
[18:48] <charsetdisaster> E please tell me how do make linux recognize windows  character encoding?
[18:48] <JordiGH> frank_: Yes.
[18:48] <BlueDevil> charsetdisaster: what do you mean by "windows character encoding" ?
[18:48] <Kl4m> openexplorer: I don't like installing low-level stuff such as drivers when there is no Ubuntu package
[18:48] <frank_> I think it is something with the command 'set'
[18:48] <minus198> Does anyone know what do do with this: http://dump.myskul.net/files/compizplusvlcsux.png
[18:48] <minus198> All files are like that
[18:48] <minus198> video*
[18:48] <nivekc1> is there anyway to access advanced settings in the bit torrent client that comes with gusty??
[18:49] <openexplorer> arthur_kalm:well i am a newbie and i'd prefer not to fix manually.  ;)
[18:49] <frank_> command_not_found_handle ()
[18:49] <frank_> {
[18:49] <frank_>     /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/command-not-found -- $1;
[18:49] <frank_>     return $?
[18:49] <frank_> }
[18:49] <kahrytan> !gryb
[18:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gryb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:49] <kahrytan> !grub
[18:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:49] <frank_> JordiGH, it is a function set with 'set'
[18:49] <sfears> clueless minus
[18:49] <charsetdisaster> tBluedevil i mean that every file i have that is encoded in ansi or windows-iso*** in linux looks like a shit
[18:49] <sfears> looks like a divx driver problem
[18:49] <arthur_kalm> openexplorer, ah.. hrm. Did anyone else answer your question yet?
[18:50] <JordiGH> frank_: Wow. I see. I'm grepping through it now.
[18:50] <Yasumoto> Poul|Raider: I haven't found anything yet, but I'll post something in the forums
[18:50] <charsetdisaster> so please Bluedevil do ypu understand e?
[18:50] <Niteye> how can i make it so a user cannot su to another user anymore
[18:50] <gavi_> is creating a webserver from a ubuntu desktop machine recommended?
[18:50] <openexplorer> Kl4m:I see, well hopefully ati should give good packages because we all have paid for their stuff... don't u agree?  :)
[18:50] <frank_> type 'unset command_not_found_handle'
[18:50] <JordiGH> frank_: Is there a package I can remove?
[18:51] <dajhorn> JordiGH:  # apt-get remove --purge command-not-found
[18:51] <frank_> I think it is just defined in a config file
[18:51] <JordiGH> dajhorn: Thanks. I want this thing GONE. :-)
[18:51] <openexplorer> arthur_kalm:yes, Art i got the suggestion of reconfigure xserver...
[18:51] <arthur_kalm> openexplorer, OK good :)
[18:52] <BlueDevil> charsetdisaster: are you talking about movie subtitles?
[18:52] <openexplorer> arthur_kalm: :)
[18:52] <charsetdisaster> yes
[18:52] <JordiGH> I admit it's a clever hack, though. I don't want it, unfortunately.
[18:52] <charsetdisaster>  yes Bluedevil yes
[18:52] <whabo> hey guys ... i would like to check my computer's motherboard temp. how can i do that? its a laptop
[18:52] <BlueDevil> charsetdisaster: what player are you using?
[18:52] <golem1> whabo: i use mbmon
[18:53] <whabo> mbmon > you find it from teh package manager?
[18:54] <golem1> yeah. and there should be an xmbmon or something if you want a gui
[18:54] <openexplorer> Kl4m:bye... i am going to start the reconfig show!  ;)
[18:54] <whabo> okay thank you
[18:54] <Kl4m> openexplorer: do you have a flat screen ?
[18:54] <cake4568> hi
[18:54] <Dextorion> hi
[18:54] <kazim59> is there any command in linux that I can know the filename given its inode? (opposite of stat)
[18:54] <Kl4m> openexplorer: I mean LCD?
[18:54] <openexplorer> Kl4m:yes, 1280*1024 LCD.  ;)
[18:55] <Reng> anyone know how to get Im-sensors to work with the dell e520?
[18:55] <dajhorn> kazim59: $ find -inum 12345
[18:55] <Kl4m> openexplorer: OK then don't bother with the monitor frequencies questions, just put defaults
[18:55] <whabo> goleml: one more thing .. what is teh normal CPU temperature? coz i have no idea what to expect.. thank you.
[18:55] <kazim59> dajhorn: thanks
[18:55] <golem1> depends on your cpu!
[18:56] <golem1> my amd3500 runs at a whopping 57 deg C, with the crappy stock heatsink/fan
[18:56] <wedgehoe> how do I monitor packets?
[18:56] <whabo> its a celeron 2.4 GHZ
[18:56] <openexplorer> Kl4m:do u mean 60hz?
[18:56] <whabo> owww okay thx
[18:56] <wiseleo> whabo - tomshardware lists benchmark cpu temps
[18:56] <Kl4m> openexplorer: probably 60hz
[18:56] <cake4568> whats the best alternative to pidgin...its giving me problems
[18:56] <ntoxin> Hi gang could someone help me get my sound chip running in ubuntu???
[18:56] <desertc> !sound | ntoxin
[18:57] <ubotu> ntoxin: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[18:57] <dmi3on> that what i needed http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/share-ubuntu-home-directories-using-samba/
[18:57] <cake4568> !ubotu
[18:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:57] <dmi3on> lol
[18:57] <dmi3on> thnx all
[18:57] <desertc> ntoxin: Almost always, some sound channel is muted.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/156930
[18:57] <openexplorer> Kl4m:have a nice day and thanks again.
[18:57] <whabo> goleml: i just installed xmbmon where can i find the program. thx
[18:58] <charsetdisaster> enybody tell me a good character converter? because linux display windows text badly unreadable
[18:58] <kazim59> dajhorn: find searches the disks... I think the kernel never searches once it knows the inode?
[18:58] <H-Town> i'm trying to completely format my hard drive, and someone earlier thismorning in this room told me to use gparted
[18:59] <charsetdisaster> I have Ubuntu feisty with all updates on
[18:59] <H-Town> i opened the terminal and typed 'gksudo gparted' like he said and then it asked for my password and nothing happene
[18:59] <whabo> goleml: i just installed xmbmon where can i find the program. thx
[18:59] <golem1> whabo, in a terminal type 'sudo xmbmon'
[18:59] <whabo> oww thx
[18:59] <dajhorn> kazim59: If the file is already open and has a kernel handle, then use a utility like `lsof` or `fuser` instead of `find`.
[18:59] <cake4568> my buddy list keeps disapearing on AWN and I can only see my IM window...any help?
[18:59] <frank_> do you have one hard drive, H-town
[18:59] <charsetdisaster> how can i make linux display the windows character encondig in texts?????????????????
[18:59] <H-Town> yes
[19:00] <charsetdisaster> e anybody there knows anybidy
[19:00] <frank_> burn gparted onto a cd
[19:00] <charsetdisaster> HELLO
[19:00] <frank_> just a sec h-town
[19:00] <H-Town> k
[19:00] <Pici> !patience | charsetdisaster
[19:00] <ubotu> charsetdisaster: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[19:00] <cake4568> !yell
[19:00] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[19:00] <frank_> http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/  h-town
[19:00] <merovingian> hi guys. I cant install my downloaded ATI Drivers while following the steps on UBUNTU website.
[19:00] <charsetdisaster> ok UBUTU i will go take a look at there thanks
[19:00] <cake4568> !ATI
[19:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:01] <frank_> you can't format the drive while gparted is on it, h-town
[19:01] <FireHazrd> Has anyone got Photoshop CS3 working on Ubuntu?
[19:01] <wiseleo> Why not boot from an Ubuntu CD in rescue mode? :)
[19:01] <josh____> TEST
[19:01] <golem1> FireHazrd, in vmware or something?
[19:01] <H-Town> so make a live cd and boot with it in my drive and it should wipe my harddrive clean?
[19:01] <BlueDevil> guys, aparently the samba 403 - forbidden errors are intentional to prevent people from getting broken packages
[19:01] <frank_> what are you trying to do, charset?
[19:02] <frank_> yep, samba is broken for now.
[19:02] <FireHazrd> golem1: Vmware or wine, anyway... i want to get off of windows all together
[19:02] <merovingian> I followed the Binary Driver How To steps exactly and it still doesnt work, the package driver installs itself and I cant disable my restricted drivers
[19:02] <charsetdisaster> i am trying to make subtitles readable in linux!!
[19:02] <H-Town> ok i'll give it a shot, thanks frank!
[19:02] <godzirra> Is there any sort of tool to tell if a file is binary or not?
[19:02] <RagingBull> under gutsy 64bit i cant seem to get all dvd's to copy even after following the directions here. I can watch all dvd and burn some dvd's , but on some k3b still wont get all the css keys. Anyone know what the problem could br
[19:02] <zeeeee> is there a vnc client that supports clipboard (copy/paste)? also, is there a program that can send clipboard text as keys input to whatever window has focus?
[19:02] <godzirra> "is a binary" or not.
[19:02] <akincer> BlueDevil: Are you referring to the broken smbfs in the latest versions? Jeremy Allison just announced 3.0.27a to be out on Monday
[19:02] <frank_> yep, h-town
[19:02] <dajhorn> kazim59: You probably want something like `lsof -Fi [...]`.
[19:03] <golem1> oh wow, the ability to hold alt/option and click _anywhere_ on a window to move it is excellent
[19:03] <BlueDevil> zeeeee: look at autocutsel
[19:03] <pipegeek> Just for the record, for those of you who use yakuake....
[19:03] <RagingBull> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[19:03] <frank_> subtitles on a video, charset?
[19:03] <godzirra> Anyone know if there's a tool to check if a file is a binary or not?
[19:03] <charsetdisaster> frank i want somehow to make my linux os to display correct dubtitles and whatever is in windows encoding
[19:03] <frank_> file
[19:03] <dajhorn> godzirra: Use the `file` program to identify a file.
[19:03] <pipegeek> I've finally tracked down a weird issue that was causing x to crash while compiz-fusion was running and the system was under load.  Turns out there's a strange interaction specifically between yakuake and compiz fusion, such that if you run anything cpu-intensive from yakuake while c-f is running, x will likely die in a few minutes (or seconds!)
[19:04] <godzirra> dajhorn: thanks.
[19:04] <dajhorn> godzirra: Rather, `/usr/bin/file` is a hepful program.
[19:04] <godzirra> that was what I needed.  i'll go read.
[19:04] <pipegeek> It's existed since feisty, apparently, and also has turned up in gentoo.  But #126732 on launchpad.
[19:04] <grindcore> local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [168.866054 and another files with different numbers] bcm43xx error: microcode ''bcm43xx_microcode5fw'' is not available or load failed ??? who can help, please
[19:04] <alages> Anyone having trouble when upgrading samba (403 forbidden)?
[19:04] <charsetdisaster> frank any idea?
[19:04] <dajhorn> alages: The samba upgrade was removed because it is broken.
[19:04] <Pici> alages: yes: http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/163116
[19:05] <alages> Ok, thanks.
[19:05] <thesource> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/libsmbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden
[19:05] <thesource> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden
[19:05] <thesource> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba-common_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden
[19:05] <Pici> !Paste | thesource
[19:05] <ubotu> thesource: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:05] <frank_> what are you using for the video, charset?  xawtv?
[19:06] <grindcore> local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [168.866054 and another files with different numbers] bcm43xx error: microcode ''bcm43xx_microcode5fw'' is not available or load failed ??? who can help, please
[19:06] <zeeeee> BlueDevil, thanks for the pointer. it doesn't seem to do what i need, though. (correct me if i'm mistaken)
[19:06] <golem1> this is a petty complaint but.. can't i change the key-bindings in rhythm box so that spacebar toggles pause/play instead of starting a song over?
[19:07] <BlueDevil> zeeeee: it worked in my case; i use x11vnc as vnc server and realvnc as client
[19:07] <Switch> hey everyone; when trying to run celtx it gives me this message: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5 what should I do about this? I'm a total noob...
[19:07] <frank_> there are many listings for your problem, grindcore
[19:07] <BlueDevil> zeeeee: before using autocutsel clipboard copy/paste would work only one way
[19:08] <grindcore> frank_  i just trying to install ubuntu and i cannot ,...
[19:08] <charsetdisaster> frank is windows utf-8 with signature and line endings (CR +LF)
[19:08] <charsetdisaster> and frak those can't be displayed in linux
[19:09] <cron> Hey, im compiling a custom kernel to enable more serial ports. When I install all pre-req packages ala kernel-source. Run the compile then make-kpkg and install my kernel im loosing my ethernet driver (note with the generic kernel the driver its an e1000_ich9) but on my custom its unconfigured. Am I missing custom patches or something for the 2.6.x kernel)
[19:09] <charsetdisaster> sorry frank for typing frak
[19:09] <grindcore> local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [168.866054 and another files with different numbers] bcm43xx error: microcode ''bcm43xx_microcode5fw'' is not available or load failed ??? who can help, please
[19:09] <frank_> no problem about the name, charset?
[19:09] <snkmad> can i remove evolution from ubuntu? i only use gmail webmail here
[19:09] <dajhorn> snkmad: Yes, the Evolution package is safe to remove.
[19:09] <Switch> libstdc++.so.5 where can I get this? anyone?
[19:10] <snkmad> dajhorn thx
[19:10] <charsetdisaster> ok frank
[19:10] <sfears> i've installed compiz but can't seem to find it anywhere
[19:10] <frank_> here''s a start grindcore http://www.mail-archive.com/rlug@lists.lug.ro/msg10859.html
[19:10] <sfears> how can i tell if my graphics card is working properly
[19:10] <snkmad> dajhorn should i do it on synaptic package manager or apt-get remove evolution ??
[19:10] <charsetdisaster> do you know how to make text readable
[19:10] <Bill_Gates> Hello
[19:10] <Kl4m> charsetdisaster, frank_ :  I think gedit reads Windows line breaks ok, but I don't know which editor can save with those. Maybe kate
[19:10] <RagingBull> k3b isnt loading all css to decrypt dvd for some dvds, but works fie with others?
[19:10] <taz_> hi guys
[19:10] <charsetdisaster> i mean it is encoded under windows
[19:10] <RagingBull> what is the problem ?
[19:10] <sfears> hello
[19:10] <dajhorn> snkmad: I removed it with apt, but use whatever is comfortable.
[19:11] <charsetdisaster> so linux can't display correct
[19:11] <Bill_Gates> ??????????????????
[19:11] <snkmad> dajhorn id rather apt too, thx
[19:11] <sfears> ??
[19:11] <Kl4m> charsetdisaster: is it file contents or file names?
[19:11] <PiterDeVries> any idea how to stop kubuntu 6.1 boot at the login point? without running X? Add. info: I don't have shell so I can't edit any cinfig files
[19:11] <Bill_Gates> Microsoft exelent
[19:11] <sfears> piter.. you do have shell
[19:11] <sfears> just have to figure out how to get to it
[19:11] <charsetdisaster> it is text file it is a *.txt or a *.srt file
[19:11] <frank_> charset, I find the program 'subtitles' to display subtitles in 'xawtv', but I am not sure what you want.
[19:11] <PiterDeVries> hmm, ok yes :)
[19:12] <charsetdisaster> it is encoded under windows
[19:12] <sfears> you said that you see the kubuntu splash screen and the blue bar working it's way to the right? it almost finishes but never does?
[19:12] <charsetdisaster> and linux media player
[19:12] <sd32> help, when i get the recent updates it tell me that some packages cannot be retrieved from the server,and then it gives a error message, how do i fix this problem?
[19:12] <taz_> update manger  it said 3 update but it an error occured
[19:12] <charsetdisaster> cannot display correct
[19:12] <frank_> oh you want subtitles from a file displayed on a video.
[19:12] <taz_> why it cant download ??
[19:12] <grindcore> frank - i had torn on my wireless card - u think thats can be a problem ?
[19:12] <charsetdisaster> frank yes
[19:13] <minus198> Does anyone know what do do with this: http://dump.myskul.net/files/compizplusvlcsux.png
[19:13] <PiterDeVries> at the boot I switch to text mode, receive few msgs and just after showing the login: it tries to switch to X and everything halts... any idea how to avoid that?
[19:13] <snkmad> is it safe to install the latest nvidia-glx-new update? its been sitting here for more than 3 days, im just afraid something will go wrong
[19:13] <charsetdisaster> tell me
[19:13] <BlueDevil> PiterDeVries: boot to single user
[19:13] <taz_> it said W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb
[19:13] <taz_>   403 Forbidden
[19:13] <wiseleo> Piter - ctrl-alt-f2 will give you a terminal if you need it. Alt-f7 to get back to X
[19:13] <frank_> samba's broken, taz_
[19:13] <BlueDevil> taz_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/163116
[19:14] <Pici> taz_: see topic
[19:14] <charsetdisaster> can you give me a link Frank?
[19:14] <PiterDeVries> wiseloo: tried that, not working :/
[19:14] <grindcore> frank_  can be a problem because my wireless card was turned on ?
[19:14] <frank_> I also found this http://dominia.org/djao/dvdsub.ver3-3.html  charset
[19:14] <sd32> is samba going to be fixed any time soon?
[19:14] <frank_> I don't think so grindcore
[19:14] <charsetdisaster> thanks i will take a look at
[19:14] <wiseleo> Piter - if ctrl-alt-fX does not work... ouch. What caused this for you?
[19:15] <PiterDeVries> BlueDevil: how can I do that without being able to edit anything
[19:15] <frank_> the page is about adding subtitles from a file to a video, charset
[19:15] <sfears> piter: ctrl+alt+f1 shows you verbose boot
[19:15] <grindcore> frank_ i have a laptop with this broadcom card, so what i need to do ?
[19:15] <sd32> !samba
[19:15] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[19:15] <charsetdisaster> thanks i will see
[19:15] <frank_> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/subosd.html charset
[19:15] <PiterDeVries> I know :) and switching to text console works till a certain point
[19:15] <frank_> these are the formats of subtitles that mplayer can use charset
[19:15] <golem1> ooh nice link, mounting windows shares permanently
[19:15] <ntoxin> Does someone know how i can dual monitor through the s-video port of my ATI card?
[19:16] <sfears> what happens when it stops? it doesn't give you a command prompt?
[19:16] <PiterDeVries> as I stated earlier - I get to the point where a login text shows up and apparently system continues to load X, but every console crashes
[19:16] <BlueDevil> PiterDeVries: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-into-single-user-mode/
[19:16] <charsetdisaster> ok i will take a look
[19:16] <frank_> grindcore can you use ubuntu right now or are you still in install?
[19:16] <PiterDeVries> nope, nothing happens.
[19:16] <sd32> can samba be uninstalled?
[19:16] <PiterDeVries> BD: thanks. I'll try that
[19:16] <wiseleo> Piter - what was the last thing you did on a working system that led to this?
[19:17] <stefano> sfears, i dont know what you mean but when i logon to my server at the machine itself the please login message gets overwritten with kernel broadcasts
[19:17] <charsetdisaster> but i use vlc media player because mplayer always crash and i don;t know why?
[19:17] <PiterDeVries> I installed it. It never worked. Also a live CD does the same, graphic install kernel etc.
[19:17] <frank_> what card do you have grindcore?
[19:17] <PiterDeVries> I managed to install the system using text installer and that's it
[19:17] <frank_> vlc player? just a sec
[19:17] <wiseleo> Piter - can be disk drive, video, keyboard...
[19:17] <sd32> man, im striking out today
[19:17] <charsetdisaster> mplayer crash immidiateley and pop-up a message that says can't open!!!!!!!!!!1
[19:17] <grindcore> frank_ i have just one laptop with me and i cannot install ubuntu, this is why i'm here, i have enough of windows, i can do lot of with computers but linux is absolutely new for me, never tried before,...
[19:18] <wiseleo> Piter - does your keyboard have an F-lock key by chance?
[19:18] <zkjellberg> Hello, simple question: Is there a way to force .txt files to open with Text Editor instead of having the prompt to choose?
[19:18] <stedy> hello. i have a Niveus Media remote controller. UR88A whit a USB RF transponder CM21A. I think this is the same devices as in Nvidia Remote. Is there any way to get this device to work in ubuntu?
[19:18] <yeniklasorr> Who got worked Ati radeon x1600 successfully? I have problems with beryl and tv capture card. Can you help me?
[19:18] <PiterDeVries> wiselo: F-lock? I don't think so. It's a logitech slim - regular keyboard
[19:18] <charsetdisaster> Frank i want to avoid reencoding the subtitles in windows so they can fit on linux
[19:18] <BlueDevil> charsetdisaster: can you send me a subtitle file that doesn't work?
[19:18] <stefano> zkjellberg, this should be in the nautilus preferences
[19:18] <frank_> charset, when you said the subtitles were in windows format what do you mean?
[19:19] <zkjellberg> stefano: How would I access such?
[19:19] <grindcore> frank_ i have a broadcom 802.11 abg
[19:19] <wiseleo> Piter - the reason why I asked is because some keyboards have their F-keys disabled until you hit F-lock
[19:19] <grindcore> frank_ my laptop is HP 6715b
[19:19] <stefano> zkjellberg, open up nautilus and go to "edit" -> "preferences" (or something like that) i cant tell you exactly where the setting is, because i have a localized version
[19:19] <charsetdisaster> Frank i mean that in windows by default whatever is saved in notepad is unreadable in linux
[19:19] <cake4568> I'm having trouble with my dual monitors...first I cant move windows between the two monitors...also on my laptop monitor I'm unable to grab/move windows at all. any ideas?
[19:19] <ntoxin> Anybody manage to get dual monitor running?
[19:20] <charsetdisaster> bluedevil how can i sent you the file?
[19:20] <cake4568> I have em ntoxin
[19:20] <RagingBull> i keep getting access denied when doing file transfer with kopete or any other IM prog
[19:20] <yeniklasorr> charsetdisaster : Use "kate"
[19:20] <BlueDevil> charsetdisaster: what irc client are you using?
[19:20] <charsetdisaster> do you wantto upload it to some server and give the link???
[19:20] <RagingBull> what is restricting the sending of a file?
[19:20] <PiterDeVries> BlueDevil: I don't think I can do the single-user. I can't get to "grub screen" it simply boots ubuntu. The instalation was a bit weird (I didn't even had a chance to pick packages)...
[19:20] <snkmad> i just rebooted, and the update manager still wants to update some evolution packages, although i have removed evolution here
[19:21] <BlueDevil> PiterDeVries: you don't get a chance to pick packages during the initial install
[19:21] <charsetdisaster> blue devil i amusing a java applet is not exactly mirc
[19:21] <BlueDevil> PiterDeVries: AFAIK
[19:21] <zkjellberg> stefano: That worked, thankyou.
[19:21] <stefano> zkjellberg, it's under nautilus > edit > preferences > behaviour > executable text files > view executalbe text files when they are opened
[19:21] <stefano> oh great :D
[19:21] <BlueDevil> PiterDeVries: you need to press "Esc" to get the grub menu
[19:21] <stefano> youre welcome
[19:21] <SMFS_Usagi> I tried booting with the CD and after the in itial screens all I get is gibberish, blinking colors
[19:21] <yeniklasorr> Who got worked Ati radeon x1600 successfully? I have problems with beryl and tv capture card. Can you help me?
[19:22] <charsetdisaster> frank any idea
[19:22] <wiseleo> Piter - what I do is build from a netinstall CD... you may have CD issues
[19:22] <PiterDeVries> yay :) finally some progress :)
[19:22] <stefano> yeniklasorr, i havent got an ati graphics card but have you tried to find a solution and the ubuntu wiki?
[19:22] <stefano> maybe theres an howto
[19:22] <sd32> samba isnt even installed on my system ant it still is giving me errors
[19:22] <PiterDeVries> wiselo: I tested the DVD and it seemed ok. I'll try with single-user
[19:23] <frank_> I am looking for program to re-encode the file using linux
[19:23]  * PiterDeVries got a grub command line and is so pround of it :D
[19:23] <yeniklasorr> stefano : I tried and couldn't find a solution :(
[19:23] <sfears> nice!
[19:23] <charsetdisaster> With VLC i am able to use any file i want so i boot to windows i re-encode but then boot again
[19:23] <sfears> using escape Piter?
[19:23] <charsetdisaster> Frank thanks for your patience
[19:23] <jsschmid1> hi! how can i get the firmware.agent?
[19:23] <charsetdisaster> thanks a lot
[19:23] <sd32> strike 3, im outa here
[19:23] <stefano> yeniklasorr, sorry i dont have one either, i know that there is one on the german ubuntu support site, but you dont speak german do you?
[19:24] <sfears> google translates stefano
[19:24] <SMFS_Usagi> can someone please help me?
[19:24] <yeniklasorr> stefano : no but maybe translate.google.com can help
[19:24] <charsetdisaster> YES FRANK THA WOULD BE GRATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:24] <jsschmid1> jsschmid1: please dont say apt-get
[19:24] <sfears> help you with what SMFS
[19:25] <SMFS_Usagi> I tried running from the CD and at first I got graphics
[19:25] <SMFS_Usagi> then I got blinking colors
[19:25] <PiterDeVries> sfears: yes. And I've found the proper boot option and now I've got shell. Finally :D
[19:25] <stefano> yeniklasorr, those are the links, http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ATI-Grafikkarten and http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ATI-Grafikkarten/AIW hope that helps
[19:25] <BlueDevil> PiterDeVries: what video card are you using?
[19:25] <yeniklasorr> stefano : thanks I'm looking
[19:25] <PiterDeVries> ATI Radeon 9600
[19:26] <bloony> Im trying to remove all the id3 tags with ex falso.. but on some tags I get a pad lock icon on some of the files.. I tried to do "chmod a+w /folder" but its still there.. its a external ntfs drive
[19:26] <sfears> alright Piter.. now you need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file, and make sure your pointer to a generic kernel
[19:26] <ericvw> Has anyone been able to download the latest Samba updates for Gutsy?
[19:26] <BlueDevil> PiterDeVries: change the video driver to "vesa" in xorg.conf
[19:26] <ericvw> I get the forbidden 403 Error
[19:26] <Nikster> anyone know of an alternative to XCompMgr? i can't get XGL to run on my old Nvidia geforce 2
[19:26] <dgjones> ericvw, see /topic
[19:26] <BlueDevil> PiterDeVries: you compiled a custom kernel?
[19:26] <Nikster> and xcompmgr crashes if i use shadows and fades
[19:27] <PiterDeVries> BlueDevil: live CD seemed to try to boot with vesa but with same result as regular boot
[19:27] <ericvw> dgjones, thanks...I probably should of read that first
[19:27] <PiterDeVries> BlueDevil: not now. Now I'm using live DVD kernels
[19:27] <\prybar> I need help installing Hamachi.. any takers?
[19:27] <sfears> Piter: ls -a /lib/modules, that will list all of you current kernels
[19:27] <BlueDevil> PiterDeVries: what video driver do you have not in xorg.conf?
[19:27] <PiterDeVries> sfears: what should I do with /boot/grup/menu.lst?
[19:27] <newguy> ok ive just deleted my winxp partition on my HD, now full time ubuntu user, one last thing though, how do i remove the "windows xp" entry from the grub menu list?
[19:27] <grindcore> frank_ can u help me ?
[19:27] <sfears> let's find out what kernels you have first Piter
[19:28] <sfears> ls -a /lib/modules
[19:28] <PiterDeVries> got only one kernel - 2.6.17-10-generic ...
[19:28] <sfears> ahhh crap
[19:28] <BlueDevil> PiterDeVries: uname -a
[19:28] <davidlondon> i am trying to set up a 2 inteface lan at work but all the docs only mention one connection to the net- any ideas, i am a bit lost
[19:28] <BlueDevil> or uname -r
[19:29] <PiterDeVries> ok, that's the kernel I've posted earlier
[19:29] <PiterDeVries> 2.6.17-10-generic
[19:29] <Nikster> \prybar: what's your problem?
[19:29] <sfears> there's no recovery in there?
[19:29] <BlueDevil> PiterDeVries: what ubuntu release are you running?
[19:29] <PiterDeVries> kubuntu 6.1
[19:29] <BlueDevil> ouch
[19:29] <davidlondon> is there a ubuntu server forum
[19:29] <BlueDevil> any reason not to use the latest?
[19:30] <sfears> are you connected? mabey you could try a distro upgrade?
[19:30] <stefano> davidlondon, the ubuntu server installation is really reasy
[19:30] <PiterDeVries> didn't have any other :/ and with crappy inet connection downloading a new iso is not an option
[19:30] <Pici> davidlondon: #ubuntu-server
[19:30] <stefano> you can try it in virtual box first
[19:30] <sfears> IC
[19:30] <davidlondon> if it was easy i would have it working
[19:30] <PiterDeVries> I thought more of upgrading it after installing with smaller packages
[19:30] <sfears> when your boot freezes, do you still have the progress bar on the screen?
[19:30] <Ktron> Are the permissions wrong or something on http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb ?
[19:30] <Pici> Ktron: see topic
[19:31] <BlueDevil> PiterDeVries: you would have to do several upgrades
[19:31] <Ktron> Pici, got it
[19:31] <BlueDevil> PiterDeVries: you're better off with installing the latest from the start rather than upgrading
[19:31] <PiterDeVries> sfears: nope. LCD turns into "unsupported mode", then get's back into balck screen and nothing more
[19:31]  * Ktron apologizes
[19:31] <amonkey> i installed the murrine engine package, how do i "enable" it now?
[19:32] <sfears> ohh.. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you could try that
[19:32] <sfears> see if you can set the display to 600x800 or vesa or something or other
[19:32] <PiterDeVries> BD: I'll probably do that i the download is complete at the night, but I wanted to get this pc running today. My wife is mad at me for taking control over both pcs ;)
[19:32] <LiMaO> !ping
[19:32] <ubotu> pong
[19:32] <LuitvD> hi
[19:32] <BlueDevil> PiterDeVries: try what sfears said
[19:32] <stefano> apt-get remove her temporarily :)
[19:33] <LuitvD> how do I use Synaptic to install software on a different installation then my current one?
[19:33] <PiterDeVries> I'll try that. :)
[19:33] <BlueDevil> PiterDeVries: [21:33] <sfears> see if you can set the display to 600x800 or vesa or something or other
[19:33] <Ktron> How about monodevelop, is monodevelop broken right now too?
[19:33] <Pici> Ktron: I think there are some bugs logged for monodevelop, I know I had issues installing it a few weeks ago.
[19:33] <BlueDevil> LuitvD: use the synaptic on the different installation than your current one :)
[19:34] <FireHazrd> botsnack
[19:34] <LuitvD> BlueDevil: from a live session
[19:34] <Ktron> Sorry, /quit'd instead of /part'd a side channel-- anyone else notice if monodevelop is broken?
[19:34] <the_master7> !ping
[19:34] <ubotu> pong
[19:34] <LiMaO> [17:33:39] <Pici> Ktron: I think there are some bugs logged for monodevelop, I know I had issues installing it a few weeks ago.
[19:34] <magicrobotmonkey> how can i play a realmedia file in gutsy?
[19:34] <Pici> Ktron: I dont have specific bug numbers in front of me though.
[19:35] <somnambulist> magicrobotmonkey, realplayer, i'd imagine
[19:35] <roerich> or helixplayer
[19:35] <magicrobotmonkey> whoa didnt know there was a linux version
[19:35] <Pici> !real > magicrobotmonkey (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:35] <Ubuntupwns> Is there an RSS link for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ ?
[19:35] <somnambulist> yeah go with helix player
[19:36] <sfears> a geeforce nvdia graphics card would be a voodoo chipset correct?
[19:36] <Ktron> Pici, I think I just missed your first comment when I was briefly dc from the channel
[19:36] <somnambulist> sfears, no
[19:36] <whabo> hello does anyone know where i can find ATI 340M drivers?? thank you
[19:36] <BlueDevil> sfears: huh? :)
[19:36] <SMFS_Usagi> My video card is Nvidia GeForce4 TI 4200 w/ AGP 8X  -- I cannot get graphuics to work, I get a screen with blinking color squares
[19:36] <sfears> mabey not
[19:36] <nickrud> sfears: no, voodoo defunct these days, although nvidia bought it
[19:36] <Ktron> LiMaO, I had it working until today's batch of updates
[19:36] <sfears> IC
[19:36] <sfears> i don't know which chipset to set in the xorg
[19:37] <charsetdisaster> i saw that http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html but did not actually help
[19:37] <nickrud> sfears: tdfx for voodoo
[19:37] <sfears> i have a geforce
[19:37] <sfears> geeforce?
[19:37] <BlueDevil> sfears: use "nv"
[19:37] <sfears> at least that what the box says
[19:37] <sfears> ohh yeah.. duh
[19:37] <charsetdisaster> I am looking for program to re-encode windows-enconding under UBUNTU
[19:37] <LiMaO> Ktron: i don't know anything about it, just copied that msg, because as you disconnected you didn't read it =)
[19:37] <BlueDevil> BlueDevil: you'll get prompted to install the restricted drivers afterwards
[19:38] <charsetdisaster> ofcourse in utf-8
[19:38] <hunger__> hey all
[19:38] <the_master7> hey hunger__
[19:38] <charsetdisaster> hey hunger
[19:38] <Ktron> LiMaO, Pici, oh, got it, thanks LiMaO, Pici
[19:38] <martino> hi
[19:38] <martino> i have a problem
[19:38] <whabo> does anyone know where to find ATI 340M drivers??? THX
[19:38] <hunger__> anyone notice that oo2.3 is crashing when trying to access any menu items?  I googled around and as far as I have read its only been when trying to sort records
[19:38] <hunger__> hey master, charset
[19:38] <martino> when i change dir in nautilus
[19:38] <LuitvD> whabo: the new ATi bèta drivers perhaps?
[19:39] <martino> it crash
[19:39] <martino> whi??
[19:39] <malianx> what's a good eyecandy alternative to gdesklets?
[19:39] <malianx> for system monitoring
[19:39] <charsetdisaster> Hey  hunger thanks for that "master" haha
[19:39] <martino> 0x8187480 2007/11/16 20:18:06.4146 (USER): finished loading window 0x81f6138: file:///home/martino
[19:39] <martino> 0x8187480 2007/11/16 20:18:06.4709 (GLog): file nautilus-navigation-window.c: line 834 (activate_nth_short_list_item): assertion failed: (index < g_list_length (window->details->short_list_viewers))
[19:39] <martino> 0x8187480 2007/11/16 20:18:06.4709 (USER): debug log dumped due to signal 6
[19:39] <hunger__> there's adesklets too
[19:39] <martino> this is the log
[19:39] <hunger__> charset LOL
[19:39] <LuitvD> malianx: gkrellm?
[19:39] <charsetdisaster> lol lol
[19:39] <hunger__> charset suppose I should've used a ; instead of a , LOL
[19:39] <the_master7> that is not funny
[19:39] <wiseleo> Wow... a week later... I have a functioning Gforge site... Holy [censored]
[19:39]  * the_master7 giggles
[19:40] <whabo> luitvD: nope i mean for old ATI cards 340M :( is there a site i can findout about ATI drivers?
[19:40] <snkmad> i just removed evolution, but the update manager wants to update evolution-data-server, its the same program?
[19:40] <martino> no one??
[19:40] <LuitvD> whabo: hmm, not sure...
[19:40] <davidlondon> i have no idea what the ubuntu server people do with their server maybe they just install it and look at it
[19:40] <charsetdisaster> hunger i need a program to re-encode windows -encoding in linux
[19:40] <whabo> thx anyway
[19:40] <Hexagram> hello! I recently installed dancer-ircd and dancer-services and configured them both according to a tutorial I found, but dancer-services doesn't seem to be working, can somebody help?
[19:40] <BlueDevil> snkmad: not the same program
[19:40] <charsetdisaster> do know anything about
[19:40] <nickrud> snkmad: sorta, that's a back end that evolution and some other apps can use to read your evo phone book and the like
[19:40] <BlueDevil> snkmad: try apt-get autoremove
[19:41] <snkmad> BlueDevil nickrud so its safe to remove that one too?
[19:41] <kasansweat> I've got a burner "pretending" to burn cds, that is, i burn the iso, it goes through the motions, but when the disc is reinserted, it acts as if it is blank. Physical inspection of the CD makes me think it is still blank. Any help?
[19:41] <nickrud> snkmad: yes
[19:41] <BlueDevil> snkmad: yes
[19:41] <snkmad> BlueDevil autoremove did nothing
[19:41] <davidlondon> kasansweat: what you using to burn it
[19:41] <martino> no rensponse
[19:42] <BlueDevil> kasansweat: make sure you deselect "test mode" in the program you use to burn the cd
[19:42] <snkmad> gonna try apt-get remove evolution-data-server
[19:42] <martino> .. thanks by
[19:42] <LuitvD> how can I get something like a list of installed packages (not necessarily versions and all) and use that on another installation of ubuntu?
[19:42] <soundray> !clone | luitvd
[19:42] <Pici> !aptoncd | LuitvD
[19:42] <ubotu> luitvd: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[19:42] <flOaTing_fRee> ..
[19:42] <ubotu> LuitvD: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[19:42] <nickrud> LuitvD: dpkg --get-selections > mypackagelist
[19:42] <kasansweat> (tried brasero and the 'internal one' - I do believe i disabled "test" in brasero
[19:42] <nickrud> LuitvD: on the other machine, dpkg --set-selections < mypackagelist && apt-get dselect-upgrade
[19:43] <kasansweat> (internal = nautilus)
[19:43] <LuitvD> thanks soundray, Pici, nickrud ;)
[19:43] <BlueDevil> LuitvD: http://www.glatzor.de/blog/blog-details/select_category/1/article/list-of-software-changes/?tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=4&cHash=def44f7917
[19:43] <nickrud> ah, a factoid
[19:43] <LuitvD> BlueDevil: thnx
[19:43] <Hexagram> hey guys where should I go for dancer-ircd support?
[19:44] <BlueDevil> who maintains ubotu?
[19:44] <kasansweat> Yes, "simulate the burning" was deselected when I "burned it" within Brasero
[19:44] <davidlondon> kasansweat: maybe try a proper gui like gnome baker-but k3b is the best and works ok for me
[19:44] <clay__> i can a set my asoundrc so that oss apps will see a dummy device that is really dmix?
[19:44] <snkmad> packages marked with a star on synaptic are the installed ones?
[19:44] <Pici> BlueDevil: The ubuntu-ops have priveleges to edit the factoids.
[19:44]  * nickrud misses open access to ubotu, it was such fun ;)
[19:45] <soundray> BlueDevil: I think it's mainly cafuego
[19:45] <BlueDevil> i suggest replacing the factoid for "clone" with http://www.glatzor.de/blog/blog-details/select_category/1/article/list-of-software-changes/?tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=4&cHash=def44f7917
[19:45] <kasansweat> davidlondon: yes, I seem to find myself drifting more towards kde-land lately
[19:45] <Hexagram> hey guys where do I go for dancer-ircd support
[19:45] <davidlondon> kasansweat: it also depends if you actually did make the iso properly and what you are trying to do-is it data or video
[19:46] <soundray> ubotu, nickrud is a competent and helpful support volunteers on #ubuntu
[19:46] <e|64> hi how could I install java in ubuntu
[19:46] <BlueDevil> !java
[19:46] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[19:46] <Pici> BlueDevil: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots on how to suggest the factoids yourself.
[19:47] <e|64> how to enable these backports
[19:47] <kasansweat> davidlondon: Downloaded iso - (damn small linux actually) seems like it should be fine. burning w/ k3b now.
[19:48] <Hexagram> hey guys, where should I go for dancer-ircd support?
[19:48] <mediabuntu> hi guys im having to reinstall the nvidia drivers every time i start X.
[19:49] <jsschmid1> How can i optain firmware.agent?
[19:49] <mediabuntu> every time i reboot sorry
[19:49] <BlueDevil> Pici: thx
[19:49] <mediabuntu> i get a blue screen with asking to to s some log. and that gdm has been stopped.
[19:50] <nickrud> mediabuntu: so read the log, you might see the cause
[19:50] <kasansweat> davidlondon: bizarre- same outcome. k3b reports success, and when disk is reinserted, it's coming up blank
[19:50] <mediabuntu> =-Oi did. i didnt see any thing unusual
[19:50] <LuitvD> if I 'chroot' into a mounted root filesystem, can I simply `apt-get update` and `dpkg --get-selections` and get the package list I'm after?
[19:51] <BlueDevil> kasansweat: did you insert the disc upside down? :))
[19:51] <nickrud> LuitvD: yes, it will use the list from the chrooted root
[19:51] <minus198> Can someone tell me what do to with this: http://dump.myskul.net/files/compizplusvlcsux.png All videofiles are like this till I reboot X, and then I can play a couple of videos till it goes back to that.
[19:51] <gherk> hi i've checked all over the forum and google and i can't seem to resolve this problem. i had a microSD with an adaptor, and I switched off the physical lock on the adapter (there isnt one on the little microSD), and i even fiddled with /etc/fstab to mount it with rw option. but as soon as its inserted, its automounted ro
[19:51] <LuitvD> nickrud: cool, thanks
[19:51] <gherk> and if i try to mount it manually i get: block device /dev/mmcblk0p1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[19:51] <nickrud> mediabuntu: save a copy of the log file, get your X running, and post the error log to a pastebin, someone may see something
[19:51] <kasansweat> BlueDevil: Ha no-- not only that, I've tried multiple disks. This is so bizarre. I've burned successfully with it before.
[19:51] <mediabuntu> any one.
[19:52] <unbeatabl> hi, if i have just one IP, can i add SSL on it?  and still be able to virtual host other users on that IP?
[19:52] <narothepharoh> how to open a .uif file?
[19:52] <mediabuntu> never mind ...... i give up. sick of it all
[19:52] <jsschmid1> How can i optain firmware.agent?
[19:52] <Tsarin> does anyone run a tumblelog?
[19:52] <skyhook> when you add/remove a program does it remove everything, including config files and etc.?
[19:53] <Tsarin> I'm looking to run one and want to chat about what works on Debian/Ubuntu
[19:53] <charsetdisaster> bye bye all thanks a little
[19:53] <nickrud> skyhook: remove leaves config, remove --purge (or remove completely in synaptic) will remove configs
[19:53] <charsetdisaster> bye bye
[19:53] <SMFS_Usagi> Is there a way to change the video driver that the liveCD uses
[19:53] <charsetdisaster> character conversion = none;
[19:53] <kasansweat> and I was able to mount the iso on its own successfully, so I dont think it's that
[19:53] <kasansweat> very odd
[19:53] <skyhook> nickrud: thanks
[19:54] <charsetdisaster> end.
[19:54] <daedra> !irssi
[19:54] <ubotu> Irssi is a terminal based IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help.
[19:54] <daedra> !info irssi
[19:54] <ubotu> irssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.11-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1027 kB, installed size 2796 kB
[19:54] <charsetdisaster> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I am angry you did not help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:54] <mark___> hello, i added myself to the group sudo, relogged, and i set %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL in /etc/sudoers, why do i still need to password to use sudo?
[19:54] <daedra> should be installed be default really
[19:54] <minus198> charsetdisaster, No need to shout :3
[19:54] <narothepharoh> how to open a .uif file?
[19:55] <charsetdisaster> character conversion = NO HELP AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:55] <minus198> Can someone tell me what do to with this: http://dump.myskul.net/files/compizplusvlcsux.png All videofiles are like this till I reboot X, and then I can play a couple of videos till it goes back to that.
[19:55] <mark___> sed 's/to/a/'
[19:55] <BlueDevil> charsetdisaster: http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[19:55] <nickrud> mark___: try changing %sudo to your user name
[19:55] <BlueDevil> !gr
[19:55] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[19:55] <Tsarin> [[
[19:55] <daedra> #sudo su
[19:55] <nickrud> daedra: sudo -i is more elegant
[19:55] <mark___> nickrud: hmm ok, but i actually want it for a couple of users
[19:56] <LuitvD> I did dpkg --set-selections < ./packglist but it didn't really install anything... what should I do?
[19:56] <nickrud> mark___: then add lines for them
[19:56] <rajman> anyone know what to do with the sd card issue ?
[19:56] <nickrud> LuitvD: you missed the last part, sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[19:56] <LuitvD> ah
[19:56] <LuitvD> thanks
[19:56] <mark___> nickrud: ok i changed to my name, logged in on tty2, and i still need a password
[19:56] <LuitvD> nickrud: doesn't do anything...
[19:57] <drewzf> What is Ubuntu JeOS?
[19:57] <mark___> nickrud: sorry i wrote to /etc/sudoers.tmp
[19:57] <nickrud> LuitvD: I've done it several times, are you sure you have the right package list?
[19:57] <DanaG> Is there a way to get a list of all Avahi hosts Ubuntu knows about?
[19:57] <LuitvD> nickrud: not sure
[19:57] <nickrud> mark___: you did use visudo to edit by the way?
[19:57] <Hexagram> hey guys where would I go for dancer-ircd support?
[19:58] <kazol2> Can I install XP Media Center, run GParted to resize the NTFS partition to 50%, and then install Ubuntu?
[19:58] <mark___> nickrud: yes, i changed it using visudo, the line now has my name instead of sudo, and it still prompt for the password, im in wheel, sudo, etc
[19:58] <LuitvD> nickrud: apt-get update won't work after chroot
[19:58] <DanaG> I'd like an equivalent of /etc/hosts, but with all hosts listed.
[19:58] <TehUni> kazol2: i guess, but why not just install winmce to a partition that's 50% of the drive?
[19:58] <jsschmid1> Where can I get the FIRMWARE.AGENT ... anyone ?? PLEASE!!
[19:59] <mark___> LuitvD: have you bound dev and proc on the chroot env?
[19:59] <rajman> hi i've checked all over the forum and google and i can't seem to resolve this problem. i had a microSD with an adaptor, and I switched off the physical lock on the adapter (there isnt one on the little microSD), and i even fiddled with /etc/fstab to mount it with rw option. but as soon as its inserted, its automounted ro, and if i try to mount it manually i get: block device /dev/mmcblk0p1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[19:59] <LuitvD> mark___: I'm not sure what you mean, so I guess I haven't
[19:59] <aek> can i install winxp on the master disk, ubuntu on the slave?
[19:59] <mark___> LuitvD: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/chroot/dev
[19:59] <Pici> jsschmid1: What firmware.agent, I dont think anyone knows what you are talking about.
[19:59] <kazol2> TehUni: The stupid OEM install disk is meant for the average computer user. I even find Ubuntu's installation to be extremely simple.
[19:59] <mark___> LuitvD: mount -t proc none /mnt/chroot/proc/
[20:00] <mark___> LuitvD: then chroot, then apt-get update
[20:00] <jsschmid1> Pici: it schould be located in /etc/hotplug
[20:00] <Aqwis> "Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main smbclient 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 403 Forbidden" - anyone?
[20:00] <drewzf> can someone give me an example use of the JeOS releases?
[20:00] <LuitvD> hmm..., thanks mark___, I'll try :P
[20:00] <mark___> Aqwis: i got the same :S, think they set their permissions wrong
[20:00] <mark___> LuitvD: np
[20:00] <Aqwis> =/
[20:00] <dgjones> Aqwis, see topic, its mentioned there
[20:00] <jsschmid1> Pici: as far as I know it is used to load firmwares in eproms
[20:00] <Aqwis> ah
[20:00] <H-Town> i'm starting to feel like ubuntu is programed in a way so that it's very difficult to uninstall ubuntu, format my harddrive and reinstall vista :-P
[20:00] <BlueDevil> rajman: check dmesg
[20:01] <Menacie> can anyone help me re-size my screen please?
[20:01] <Hexagram> H-Town: just put the vista disk in and install it
[20:01] <grimboy> Hmm, seems I can't have libumfpack4 and libsuitesparse installed because the both contain the files /usr/lib/libamd.so.1 and /usr/lib/libumfpack.a . Can anyone give me some sort of workaround?
[20:01] <H-Town> it doesn't work
[20:01] <Aqwis> kind of makes it impossible to upgrade right now, or is there a workaround?
[20:01] <drewzf> H-Town: Quite the opposit
[20:01] <H-Town> when I press install vista says it can't read ntfs
[20:01] <Hexagram> lol
[20:01] <dajhorn> Menacie: Click "System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution"
[20:01] <Hexagram> you need to hit advanced
[20:01] <Hexagram> and delete the partition
[20:01] <Hexagram> then make a new one
[20:02] <john83> 하이~
[20:02] <drewzf> Ubuntu is configured in a way to allow you to isntall to a seperate partition from your Vista machine, and easily dual boot, or simply take your grub partition out of the primary boot in bios ;)
[20:02] <Menacie> sorted, now beryl?
[20:02] <drewzf> And revert
[20:02] <Hexagram> drewzf: it's more him not knowing how to use the vista installer to hit advanced and delete the ext3 partition to make a new ntfs one
[20:02] <H-Town> you're probably right
[20:02] <Hexagram> I know I'm right
[20:02] <drewzf> Hexagram: But that's not necessary if properly configured
[20:03] <Hexagram> drewzf: to install vista? on top of ubuntu? yes, it is.
[20:03] <minus198> Can someone tell me what do to with this: http://dump.myskul.net/files/compizplusvlcsux.png All videofiles are like this till I reboot X, and then I can play a couple of videos till it goes back to that.
[20:03] <drewzf> Oh install vista on top
[20:03] <H-Town> how do i know your right? which is why i say you are probably right
[20:03] <drewzf> Why would you do that?
[20:03] <Menacie> i have 7600gs graphics card
[20:03] <BlueDevil> minus198: open a bug report please
[20:03] <mark___> vista sucks balls
[20:03] <Hexagram> H-Town: because I fixed the same problem about 25 minutes ago fora f riend
[20:03] <drewzf> You install Ubuntu on top of Vista, that way Grub picks both up
[20:03] <BlueDevil> mark___: most of us know :)
[20:03] <drewzf> mark___: My thoughts exactly why the hell use it
[20:03] <Hexagram> drewzf: he doesn't want that
[20:03] <mark___> :)
[20:03] <rajman> hi i've checked all over the forum and google and i can't seem to resolve this problem. i had a microSD with an adaptor, and I switched off the physical lock on the adapter (there isnt one on the little microSD), and i even fiddled with /etc/fstab to mount it with rw option. but as soon as its inserted, its automounted ro, and if i try to mount it manually i get: block device /dev/mmcblk0p1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[20:03] <H-Town> do you know of a place I can look online that can teach me how to do what you said?
[20:03] <LuitvD> mark___: still doens't work...
[20:04] <LuitvD> :(
[20:04] <mark___> LuitvD: well what error msg does it give?
[20:04] <H-Town> i have to replace my laptop and i got to put vista back on it before they will take it in
[20:04] <drewzf> H-Town: Read your vista user manual regarding partitioning?
[20:04] <BlueDevil> rajman: did you check dmesg output?
[20:04] <unbeatabl> http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-13215.html
[20:04] <LuitvD> mark___: still doesn't update...
[20:04] <mark___> H-Town: Just format and install...
[20:04] <Hexagram> H-Town: here, it's really easy write this down: do the whole setup as normally planned, then when you choose which disk to install it on hit advanced options, select the partition, hit delete, then ok, then hit new, and make it the full size of the disk, hit ok, then continue with installation
[20:04] <unbeatabl> so it IS possible to have more than one domains on single ip to share SSL
[20:04] <sfire_> unbeatabl: no
[20:04] <Menacie> anybody?
[20:04] <rajman> BlueDevil: yes it shows that its been mounted ro
[20:04] <LuitvD> mark___: fails to fetch apt sources
[20:04] <H-Town> ok thanks, i'll give it a shot
[20:04] <drewzf> Hexagram++ - Step by step
[20:05] <Hexagram> what?
[20:05] <rajman> BlueDevil: regardless of what i do
[20:05] <Lacrymology> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3_i386.deb  403 Forbidden
[20:05] <nickrud> LuitvD: you don't really need to update, since you only want a list of packages that are already there.
[20:05] <Hexagram> drewzf: what's that?
[20:05] <PiterDeVries> yay :D Got X started :) VESA, 800x600 and 16bit colors, but.... it seems that my configuration was overriden anyway :/ Got 1280x1024 and 24bit color. Not that I'm complaining, but It's a bit weird. I'll try with restart :)
[20:05] <drewzf> Hexagram: I increased your karma, that was a great step by step dumbed down answer :)
[20:05] <BlueDevil> rajman: did you try to flip the switch back and forth a couple of times?
[20:05] <Hexagram> oh, haha thanks, is there actually a karma system here?
[20:05] <drewzf> No
[20:05] <mark___> LuitvD: are you sure they are set right in /etc/apt/sources.list, and are you sure that server is up?
[20:05] <drewzf> I miss peelSA :(
[20:05] <LuitvD> nickrud: I want to install them now...
[20:06] <aek> i am trying to compile ktorrent-2.2.2 and when ./configure is done, it tells "KTorrent requires gmp (http://www.swox.com/gmp)" any idea?
[20:06] <rajman> BlueDevil: yes, i've tried both up and down, and did it a few times
[20:06] <nickrud> LuitvD: in the chroot?
[20:06] <LuitvD> mark___: I copied the sources.list file from the other chroot
[20:06] <LuitvD> nickrud: yes
[20:06] <BlueDevil> rajman: does it work with a different OS?
[20:06] <sfire_> rajman: can you write to it as root?
[20:06] <LuitvD> mark___: and the servers are the archive.ubuntu.com servers
[20:06] <Menacie> sudo apt-get install beryl=0.1.99.2~0beryl1 beryl-core=0.1.99.2~0beryl1 beryl-manager=0.1.99.2~0beryl1 beryl-plugins=0.1.99.2~0beryl1 beryl-plugins-data=0.1.99.2~0beryl1 beryl-settings=0.1.99.2~0beryl1 beryl-settings-bindings=0.1.99.2~0beryl1 emerald=0.1.99.2~0beryl1 libberyldecoration0=0.1.99.2~0beryl1 libberylsettings0=0.1.99.2~0beryl1 libemeraldengine0=0.1.99.2~0beryl1
[20:06] <BlueDevil> sfire_: he can't, since it's mounted as ro
[20:06] <rajman> BlueDevil: i dont know all i have is linux.
[20:07] <Menacie> E: Couldn't find package beryl
[20:07] <Pici> !beryl | Menacie
[20:07] <ubotu> Menacie: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[20:07] <rajman> sfire; i cant write regardless of what user i am
[20:07] <Menacie> !compiz
[20:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[20:07] <mark___> LuitvD: and you have internet running in the chroot? e.g. you can ping, for example, www.google.com
[20:07] <zeroflag> how do I get emerald themes applied with gnome/compiz?
[20:07] <BlueDevil> rajman: paste your fstab
[20:07] <kasansweat> Well folks, for what its worth - gnomebaker succeded where brasero, k3b and nautilus-cd-burner failed
[20:07] <Pici> aek: try doing `sudo apt-get build-dep ktorrent` that will get the build dependencies for the version of ktorrent thats in the repos, which are probably the same packages you need for your version.
[20:07] <LuitvD> mark___: I'm chatting here, aren't I?
[20:07] <ajmannen> Hi, how do i make a folder called /boot/grub/splash as boot? (running ubuntu 7.10)
[20:08] <rajman> BlueDevil: cat /etc/fstab                                                                                   [15:07 pts/2]
[20:08] <rajman> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[20:08] <rajman> #
[20:08] <rajman> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[20:08] <rajman> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[20:08] <rajman> # /dev/sda4
[20:08] <rajman> UUID=98bc248b-5170-4f3f-89a2-843b41ac59b6 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[20:08] <rajman> # /dev/sda1
[20:08] <mark___> LuitvD: maybe not fromt he console in the chroot? i dont know your setup
[20:08] <Hexagram> !pastebin
[20:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:08] <rajman> UUID=30d1c50e-57c1-42f3-9c3e-179b7ded934b /boot           ext2    defaults        0       2
[20:08] <rajman> # /dev/sda3
[20:08] <unbeatabl> anoyne have any idea what this could mean? http://www.geotrust.com/products/ssl_certificates/georoot.asp  ?  does that mean i can run my own verisign.com with this ?
[20:08] <BlueDevil> !pastebin | rajman
[20:08] <ubotu> rajman: please see above
[20:08] <LuitvD> mark___: it's the same computer AFAIK :P
[20:08] <Pici> !bot paste rajman
[20:08] <Pici> !paste > rajman (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[20:08] <ajmannen>  how do i make a folder called /boot/grub/splash as boot? (running ubuntu 7.10)? plz answer...
[20:08] <nickrud> LuitvD: what was the error? you need both dev and proc mounted for that, i believe
[20:08] <LuitvD> mark___: if that's the answer to your question...
[20:09] <Pici> rajman: dont do that again. understand? use the pastebin.
[20:09] <LuitvD> nickrud: I just did that... but it won't work... I'll doublecheck now...
[20:09] <Menacie> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[20:09] <Menacie> 404'd
[20:09] <Menacie> :(
[20:09] <rajman> BlueDevil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44781/
[20:09] <mark___> LuitvD: that doesnt matter, if i, for example, am building a gentoo system in a chroot, i can have internet on the running system, but not in the chroot, because proc wouldnt be bound or whatever
[20:09] <Pici> Menacie: Did you read ubotu's message?
[20:09] <Menacie> so beryl isn't supposed no more?
[20:09] <LuitvD> mark___: bah, so I need to initialize the internet connection there ?
[20:10] <mark___> LuitvD: we are talking about the same chroot right? like chroot /mnt/chroot ?
[20:10] <mark___> LuitvD: you need to bind proc, as i have told you, mount -t proc none /mnt/chroot/proc/
[20:10] <Pici> Menacie: Is there a particular reason you want to use Beryl over Compiz-fusion?
[20:10] <LuitvD> mark___: it's /mnt/sda1, and I've mounted ./dev and ./proc accordingly
[20:11] <LuitvD> none on /mnt/sda1/proc type proc (rw)
[20:11] <nickrud> unbeatabl: if you have $5m in assets, and a few other things, yes
[20:11] <mark___> so you mounted the filesyste in a dir, bound dev and proc on that filesystem, then chrooted, then tried pinging/updating?
[20:12] <JayCY> i'm having trouble with wine. it's telling me i have broken packges during install.  #winehq told me it's an ubuntu issue
[20:12] <kbrooks> LuitvD, you need to copy /etc/resolv.conf
[20:12] <LuitvD> right, I'll try
[20:12] <mark___> LuitvD: yes that too, the dns
[20:12] <JayCY> they said it's bad that ubuntu has a dependency on binfmt-misc
[20:12] <dajhorn> Do any of the SSL certificate vendors give referral kickbacks to Debian or Ubuntu?  (I need to buy one soon.)
[20:13] <rajman> BlueDevil: i'm using the sdricoh_cs module if that helps
[20:13] <nivekc1> anyone know how i get the xvid codec for ubuntu?
[20:13] <nickrud> !xvid
[20:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:13] <noob69> hello everyone
[20:13] <Profanephobia> JayCY, are you trying to compile wine from source?
[20:13] <Pici> !compiz > Menacie (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[20:13] <mark___> avifile-xvid-plugin
[20:14] <BlueDevil> rajman: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_SD_and_MMC_card_readers
[20:14] <LuitvD> YES, it works, thanks mark___, kbrooks and nickrud
[20:14] <noob69> anyone having getting the 3 security update using their server
[20:14] <LuitvD> apt-get update works now
[20:14] <mark___> ^^
[20:14] <noob69> i get this error message
[20:14] <LuitvD> =)
[20:14] <BlueDevil> rajman: "At the moment the driver is reported to function read-only with both SD and MMC cards. For the write capabilities, you'll need to modprobe with the appropriate module option and experiment."
[20:14] <nickrud> kudos to kbrooks for looking thru the chaff ;)
[20:14] <noob69> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb
[20:14] <noob69>   403 Forbidden
[20:14] <JayCY> Profane,phobiai'm following the instructions on their website, by adding adding repository key and the repository to the list of apt sources
[20:14] <Anisotropo> hi
[20:14] <Pici> noob69: see topic
[20:14] <BlueDevil> noob69: see topic
[20:14] <Profanephobia> !paste > noob69
[20:14] <kbrooks> nickrud, np
[20:15] <JayCY> and then i apt-get update and try to install. but then that's where i run into issues
[20:15] <Profanephobia> JayCY, whats the error
[20:15] <LuitvD> nickrud: indeed, though I realized DNS was the defunct part just before he said I needed resolv.conf
[20:15] <LuitvD> :P
[20:15] <rajman> BlueDevil: thanks so much ! i knew i missed gentoo for some reason....but stupid compiling from source i have no patience for it doesnt optimize anything noticeable on my old laptop haha
[20:15] <LuitvD> kudos indeed :P
[20:16] <nivekc1> i dont see anything there for xvid
[20:16] <BlueDevil> rajman: np
[20:16] <BlueDevil> rajman: gentoo has an excellent wiki
[20:16] <JayCY> The following packages have unmet dependencies: wine: Depends: infmt-support (>= 1.1.2) but it is not installable. E: Broken packages
[20:16] <JayCY> binfmt*
[20:16] <nickrud> nivekc1: the codecs part, that has xvid stuff in it
[20:16] <noob69> what does 'regression' in Ubuntu's support team mean
[20:16] <shavex> where can i go to get help with VNC viewing/ remote desktop control
[20:17] <nickrud> noob69: means something that worked doesn't anymore
[20:17] <noob69> how vague lol
[20:17] <JayCY> Some packages could not be instlaled. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming
[20:17] <dgjones> !info infmt-support
[20:17] <ubotu> Package infmt-support does not exist in gutsy
[20:17] <noob69> thanks for the info.
[20:17] <wiseleo> regression testing - test something on current and prior releases.
[20:17] <mark___> i wonder what the ubuntu guys did to poor sudo to make it misbehave in such way...
[20:17] <newbe21000> I need to install the moveit.dll can some 1 help me ?
[20:17] <nickrud> noob69: it carries a subtext of damn, we screwed up :)
[20:17] <LuitvD> yay, 900MB's of packages coming in :D
[20:17] <JayCY> i meant binfmt-support
[20:18] <dgjones> !info binfmt-support
[20:18] <ubotu> binfmt-support: Support for extra binary formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.10 (gutsy), package size 20 kB, installed size 148 kB
[20:18] <Profanephobia> JayCY, try sudo dpkg --reconfigure binfmt-support
[20:18] <suppaman> hello
[20:19] <suppaman> is there a oneliner for ati closed source hardware acceleration ?
[20:20] <JayCY> it's telling me --reconfigure is an unknown option
[20:20] <wiseleo> jaycy - it's --configure
[20:20] <soundray> wiseleo: no
[20:20] <somnambulist> how do i list all dependencies of a package?
[20:20] <sfire_> suppaman: in one line... ATI sucks and all equipment should be destoryed
[20:20] <Profanephobia> sry its --configure JayCY
[20:20] <newbe21000> can any 1 help me ?
[20:20] <soundray> JayCY: dpkg-reconfigure -- it's a command, not dpkg plus an option
[20:21] <JayCY> it's alright.
[20:21] <suppaman> sfire_: it's not a computer of mine, anyway you have to cope with existing hardware
[20:21] <Profanephobia> geesh ill get it right in a sec lol JayCY
[20:21] <wiseleo> sound - yep that too. I think one calls the other anyway
[20:21] <LuitvD> I want ubuntu on my mobile phone :P
[20:21] <soundray> oops, I take it all back, wiseleo.
[20:21] <sfire_> suppaman: there are lots of guides but no 1 line fixes
[20:21] <nickrud> somnambulist: apt-rdpepends
[20:21] <Profanephobia> JayCY, also do a sudo apt-get clean
[20:22] <suppaman> sfire_ it's not for me, it's for a friend that's not physically here
[20:22] <sfire_> suppaman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[20:22] <suppaman> sfire_: I remember there were oneliner on debian, so I tried asking here
[20:22] <suppaman> thanks
[20:22] <Ktron> Jesus, what happened to my system after these updates? aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv now core dumps....
[20:22] <wiseleo> apt-get clean just erases the cache..
[20:23] <somnambulist> nickrud, i don't seem to have an apt-rdepends in my new install. where can i get it?
[20:23] <newbe21000> does any 1 knows how to install a dll on wine?
[20:23] <wiseleo> newbe - is regsvr32.exe implemented on it?
[20:23] <JayCY> i don't think i have a binfmt-support, or i'm doing something terribly wrong
[20:23] <wiseleo> Jaycy - have you tried using Aptitude?
[20:23] <nickrud> somnambulist: sudo apt-get install apt-rdepends , or use synaptic
[20:23] <JayCY> i have not
[20:24] <\prybar> Could someone help me with remote desktop to XP?
[20:24] <wiseleo> Aptitude makes resolving deps much easier. Give it a try :)
[20:24] <newbe21000> wiseleo were can i find it?
[20:24] <Profanephobia> \prybar, sure whats the problem
[20:24] <wiseleo> newbe - don't know, but I use regsvr32 to manually register DLLs on actual windows
[20:24] <nickrud> newbe21000: I would think it would go into ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32
[20:25] <newbe21000> yes i found it
[20:25] <wiseleo> newbe regsvr32 'path to dll' then
[20:26] <wiseleo> regsvr32 /u 'path to dll' to uninstall a DLL
[20:26] <newbe21000> on the terminal?
[20:26] <Profanephobia> JayCY, did aptitude work
[20:26] <databuddy> anyone else having trouble updating samba?
[20:26] <databuddy> getting a 403 forbidden
[20:26] <databuddy> You don't have permission to access /ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb on this server.
[20:26] <nickrud> databuddy: I didn't, but the topic says it's broken
[20:26] <unbeatabl> anyone know what cacert.org do?  if you use them,  can you get ssl site without that SSL error popup warning message?
[20:26] <databuddy> nickrud ok good thanx
[20:26] <marty_> Yep trouble updating samba for sure
[20:26] <databuddy> TopRamen
[20:26] <databuddy> er
[20:27] <LiENUS> is there a solution to do a server install of ubuntu 7.10 from a usb drive?
[20:27] <newbe21000> wiseleo were to regsvr32 /u 'path to dll' to uninstall a DLL
[20:27] <databuddy> LiENUS
[20:27] <merovingian> hi guys, just updated my UBUNTU, it had SAMBA updates, previously my hsemates MAC can view my shared files, now after updates, cant see my files. I followed video on youtube again abt sharing files thru windows network, still no luck. Anyway to rollback update?
[20:27] <databuddy> usb flash or usb hdd
[20:27] <databuddy> and from or to
[20:27] <Menacie> how do i check the ip on my network?
[20:27] <LiENUS> from usb hdd
[20:27] <databuddy> and also from usb dvd/cd drive?
[20:27] <Aqwis> jesus, it's been 6 hours and they still haven't fixed an error which makes it *impossible* to upgrade
[20:27] <LiENUS> no cd or dvd drive
[20:27] <LiENUS> is there a solution to do a server install of ubuntu 7.10\ from a usb drive?
[20:27] <databuddy> Menacie open terminal : ifconfig
[20:28] <databuddy> LiENUS are you in windows atm?
[20:28] <Menacie> thanks
[20:28] <wiseleo> newbe - yeah
[20:28] <databuddy> Menacie np
[20:28] <LiENUS> the computer has no os on it
[20:28] <wiseleo> Aqwis - hmm call your support line on your support contract and complain? :)
[20:28] <Aqwis> don't be sarcastic please
[20:28] <databuddy> LiENUS ok
[20:28] <databuddy> what is currently on the hdd?
[20:29] <databuddy> and how do you plan to put something on it?
[20:29] <LiENUS> nothing
[20:29] <nickrud> Aqwis: put samba on hold, upgrade the rest
[20:29] <LiENUS> i plan to install from a usb hard drive
[20:29] <powhatanBob> How can i upgrade from 6.06 to the current version?
 is there a solution to do a server install of ubuntu 7.10 from a usb drive?
[20:29] <databuddy> LiENUS listen carefully
[20:29] <merovingian> anyway to rollback updates? after updating, i cant view computers on my home network
[20:29] <Aqwis> nickrud, how, exactly?
[20:29] <Aqwis> can't find anything in man apt-get
[20:29]  * mhnoyes wonders if anyone is aware of the smb file permission issues in the 7.04 upgrade repository.
[20:29] <databuddy> you have compy with hdd in it and no cdrom
[20:29] <databuddy> you have external hdd with nothing on it
[20:29] <LiENUS> yes
[20:29] <databuddy> right
[20:29] <nickrud> powhatanBob: you'd need to go thru edgy & fiesty first, makes more sense to reinstall
[20:29] <LiENUS> forget it you're just asking me the same things over and over
[20:30] <databuddy> now how do you plan to put something on the external hdd so that you can install to that computer
[20:30] <LiENUS> forget it you're just asking me the same things over and over
[20:30] <databuddy> do you have another computer that you can hook it up to?
[20:30] <wiseleo> po - are you sure you want to? apt-get dist-upgrade will get you to 6.10 and then you can install from backports as well
[20:30] <powhatanBob> yuk
 forget it you're just asking me the same things over and over
[20:30] <Azzmodan> Having a computer that only has a hd isn't that wierd, nor is the want to put the installed on an usb stick
[20:30] <\prybar> Could anyone help me with Getting Terminal Server Client to work with hamachi to access a WinXP machine?
[20:30] <Jonty> ach. Can GParted actually move partitions yet?
[20:30] <nickrud> Aqwis: sudo aptitude hold
[20:30] <databuddy> your asking a nonsense question - its not evolution it wont just spontaniusly put something on that external drive
[20:30] <powhatanBob> how come it didn't automatically upgrad to 6.10, then 7.04 etc when they came out?
[20:30] <databuddy> now answer the question.
[20:30] <LiENUS> databuddy, i answered your questions
[20:30] <nickrud> Aqwis: with package names after hold
[20:30] <LiENUS> you ignored my answer
[20:30] <Aqwis> thanks
[20:30] <LiENUS> no
[20:30] <LiENUS> i am not answering anything else for you
[20:31] <Azzmodan> \prybar, what is there to help with? Enable Remote Desktop, connect hamaci, connect?
[20:31] <databuddy> no you didnt answer the last question
[20:31] <LiENUS> either go back and reread
[20:31] <databuddy> then go throwup on yourself
[20:31] <LiENUS> or dont try to help when you dont understand
[20:31] <databuddy> ^_^
[20:31] <databuddy> ok ok thats a bit much
[20:31] <Profanephobia> !o4o
[20:31] <ubotu> Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[20:31] <nickrud> powhatanBob: not sure, I don't use the automatic upgrade stuff
[20:31] <databuddy> but with a compy with nothing on the hdd and an empty hdd your presenting an impossible situation
[20:31] <databuddy> one MUST have an os to put information on either of these
[20:31] <LiENUS> databuddy, quit trolling
[20:31] <powhatanBob> right on, any idea how i could get java 1.6... instead of the 1.5... i have now?
[20:31] <LiENUS> if basic logic fails you then get off the internet
[20:32] <databuddy> so either you have another computer somewhere with an os to put onto the external hdd or you cannnot install anything.
[20:32] <databuddy> now if you had a flash drive with even 1GB space i could show you -
[20:32] <LiENUS> can someone who understands english give me a hand?
[20:32] <wiseleo> po apt-get install java-6-sun
[20:32] <sfire_> why do people get so upset with free help... you ungrateful twits
[20:32] <sahil> hey, i just got xfce4 from synaptic and was wondering how to set it up as the default instead of gnome?
[20:32] <databuddy> Profanephobia while i'm with you look at what he's asking.
[20:32] <databuddy> he's the troll :P
[20:32] <wiseleo> po - should be in backports. edit /etc/apt/sources.list to enable that
[20:32] <LiENUS> databuddy, read my question
[20:32] <merovingian> after updating Ubuntu, which had Samba updates, now i cant view/see shared folders over my home network..help?
 <LiENUS> is there a solution to do a server install of ubuntu 7.10 from a usb drive?
[20:32] <databuddy> yes
[20:33] <LiENUS> now what part do you not understand?
[20:33] <\prybar> Azzmodan did you get that msg?
[20:33] <nickrud> !install | LiENUS (this has usb stick install I believe in it somewhere)
[20:33] <databuddy> and it requires that you hook that drive up to another computer that HAS AN OS
[20:33] <ubotu> LiENUS (this has usb stick install I believe in it somewhere): Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[20:33] <powhatanBob> yeah i just found that on the website for ubuntu, lemee see if i can get backports working
[20:33] <LiENUS> nickrud, it does not explain how to do a server install
[20:33] <Azzmodan> \prybar, no?
[20:33] <databuddy> nickrud dont bother he doesnt want that one
[20:33] <lastelement0> does anyone have experience with ubuntu in Virtualbox?
[20:33] <tom__> hi, how can i make NetworkManager use a different mtu, i.e., change the mtu when my wireless connection is brought up
[20:33] <wiseleo> Lienus - what specific question do you have about server install
[20:33] <nickrud> LiENUS: a server install is no different, just use the server image
[20:33] <databuddy> lastelement0 what cha need
[20:33] <LiENUS> databuddy, actually as i said before that is EXACTLY what i want to do except that that does not present me with the option to do a server install
[20:33] <Profanephobia> lastelement0, yes whats the problem
[20:33] <databuddy> LiENUS get the alternate cd
[20:34] <databuddy> install cli/text system
[20:34] <stonki> hello, I am trying to update but receiving 403 error forbidden on http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3_i386.deb
[20:34] <LiENUS> databuddy, did you not read what i said?
[20:34] <databuddy> yup
[20:34] <wiseleo> I am actually using mini-iso for server installs. Less stuff to delete :)
[20:34] <nickrud> stonki: see topic
[20:34] <databuddy> but you need that iso
[20:34] <Markon1> hi Iknonia
[20:34] <LiENUS> seriously if you're not going to read quit trolling
[20:34] <stonki> ups
[20:34] <Azzmodan> I like to use the mini image for everything
[20:34] <databuddy> LiENUS look
[20:34] <lastelement0> i am trying to modify my xconf to add my screen resolution however it is not working
[20:34] <databuddy> !ops LiENUS trolling hard
[20:34] <ompaul> !install | LiENUS read that page and it will tell you your options - if it is not there you need to do some serious hacking
[20:34] <databuddy> !op LiENUS trolling hard
[20:34] <ubotu> LiENUS read that page and it will tell you your options - if it is not there you need to do some serious hacking: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[20:34] <LiENUS> solution found
[20:34] <databuddy> mm
[20:34] <Shoka> Stonki see link at the top of the page
[20:34] <LiENUS> databuddy*!*@* added to ignore list
[20:34] <databuddy> o good
[20:34] <stonki> Shoka & others: sorry
[20:35] <databuddy> thats one list i'm proud to be on
[20:35] <LiENUS> ompaul, i want to do a server install from a usb disk
[20:35] <nickrud> databuddy: you can be my buddy ;)
[20:35] <tom__> anyone?
[20:35] <databuddy> hi ompaul
[20:35] <Profanephobia> lastelement0, so youre trying to edit the ubuntu's resolution on a virtualbox?
[20:35]  * databuddy pats nickrud helped u the other day anyway
[20:35] <wiseleo> Can't we all just get along...
[20:35] <\prybar> Azzmodan how do I msg you?
[20:35] <LiENUS> the alternate install cd presents you with the option to do a server install with isolinux
[20:35] <ompaul> LiENUS, read what I said - that is the list of ways to install - read it
[20:35] <databuddy> wiseleo we try....
[20:35] <LiENUS> however the usb memory stick install doesnt use isolinux
[20:35]  * nickrud has never had an answer here ;(
[20:35] <Profanephobia> \prybar, /msg <nick>
[20:35] <lastelement0> yes. i was able to do so on my fedora which is also on virtualbox
[20:35] <merovingian> i did latest update containing Samba updates, now cant view network computers and files; vice versa.
[20:35] <databuddy> ompaul explain to him to do the pendrive solution with the alternate cd
[20:35] <isforinsects> Any idea when a simcity/micropolis package will be available?
[20:36] <Profanephobia> lastelement0, ok so you have youre xorg.conf file open?
[20:36] <LiENUS> it use to use the isolinux configs converted to syslinux however the new method does not
[20:36] <e|64> when I try to run netbeans6 install I get /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:42: error: lexical error or unexpected token, expected valid token
[20:36] <databuddy> its just a manner of booting a live image more or less and will work either wya
[20:36] <ompaul> databuddy, it is documented on that web page afik
[20:36] <databuddy> way
[20:36] <\prybar> hmm.. that is what I did and my msg did go through
[20:36] <DShepherd> nickrud, maybe your just too smart
[20:36] <\prybar> did not go through
[20:36] <Azzmodan> ./msg <nick> <message> should work
[20:36] <lastelement0> Profanephobia, yes i do
[20:36] <Azzmodan> What client are you using?
[20:36] <LiENUS> ompaul, where on the webpage is it documented?
[20:36] <askand> Does anyone know of a tool to put several jpgpics into a short movie? :)
[20:36] <Profanephobia> lastelement0, ok paste it into a pastebin if you could
[20:37] <\prybar> ./msg Azzmodan test
[20:37] <LiENUS> the only link on that webpage to usb stick explains how to do it with 6.06
[20:37] <Azzmodan> Without the dot :)
[20:37] <Profanephobia> \prybar, no .
[20:37] <LiENUS> https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html tells how to do it with 7.04 and up
[20:37] <lastelement0> Profanephobia can u link me to pastebin?
[20:37] <LiENUS> but does not explain how to do a server install
[20:37] <databuddy> askand check out the tovid thread on the forums
[20:37] <databuddy> or um makedvd?
[20:37] <nickrud> DShepherd: nah, I love google
[20:37]  * sfire_ shakes head @ LiENUS :(
[20:37] <Profanephobia> lastelement0, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[20:37] <wiseleo> type cli for server install?
[20:37] <askand> databuddy: thanks
[20:37] <semnome> server irc.lleida.net
[20:37] <\prybar> it doesn't seem like they are going trhough..
[20:37] <DShepherd> nickrud, nah, google loves you
[20:37] <databuddy> it basically makes the jpg's into an mpeg
[20:37] <LiENUS> wiseleo, when where?
[20:37] <databuddy> iirc
[20:37] <LiENUS> it never presents me with an option to type cli for the server install
[20:37] <LiENUS> as it does not use isolinux
[20:37] <Profanephobia> lastelement0, then just send me the link when youre finished
[20:38] <Azzmodan> LiENUS, "The installer will look for an Ubuntu ISO image on the stick as its source for additional data needed for the installation. So your next step is to copy an Ubuntu ISO image" pick the mini iso
[20:38] <LiENUS> the option for server install is in isolinux
[20:38] <nickrud> DShepherd: I stay a month or so behind the curve, Worked For Me™ letting others do the dirty stuff
[20:38] <ompaul> !repeat | LiENUS
[20:38] <ubotu> LiENUS: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:38] <LiENUS> ompaul, when did i repeat myself?
[20:38] <wiseleo> Lienus - ah.. fun
[20:38] <DShepherd> nickrud, heheh.. see you are smart!
[20:38] <starscalling> LiENUS
[20:38] <starscalling> Adding an ISO image
[20:38] <weisswurst> how to create a 150 mb file with zeros with dd?
[20:38] <starscalling> that means ANY iso image
[20:38] <starscalling> including the one thats a server install == alternate
[20:39] <isforinsects> EA released their SimCity to the OLPC project.  The GPL version is called Micropolis.  Is the Micropolis package going to make it into the 'buntu sources any time soon?  And where could I check on something like that's progress?
[20:39] <Azzmodan> Isn't lincity better then simcity by now anyways? :)
[20:39] <wiseleo> isfor - is there a dep or rpm for it? use alien
[20:39] <databuddy> http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2007/05/using-dd-to-create-4gb-file.html
[20:39] <Profanephobia> isforinsects, best bet is to google it
[20:39] <databuddy> there u go weisswurst
[20:40] <databuddy> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dd+create+file+of+0&btnG=Google+Search  <<--
[20:40] <\prybar> OK Azzmodan here is my problem:  I''m trying to Remote Desktop form Ubuntu to WinXP using Hamachi.  I'm using the Terminal Server Client, but i'm getting a connection error
[20:40] <Azzmodan> \prybar, can you ping the XP machine?
[20:40] <rorra> hello, when I try to access http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb I got a permission error, where can I report this error?
[20:40] <dgjones> isforinsects, its unlikely to make it into the Gutsy repo's because once its released its just bug fixes etc, it may appear in future versions, but you'd probably need to look on their website or in the ubuntu forums
[20:40] <dgjones> rorra, see topic
[20:40] <\prybar> Azzmodan, through Hamachi I can browser all the shared folders, so I have a good connection
[20:40] <nickrud> rorra: see the topic
[20:40] <Profanephobia> \prybar, is this from outside or inside the network
[20:41] <Azzmodan> \prybar, and you're sure you have remote desktop enabled?
[20:41] <Profanephobia> nm
[20:41]  * nickrud considers making an auto replace for that
[20:41] <Azzmodan> hamachi creates a vpn like situation
[20:41] <wiseleo> Pry - XP has too many useless firewalls. Can you reach it form another XP?
[20:41] <lastelement0> Profanephobia,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44787/
[20:41] <Clearze1> When I try to update samba related components I'm getting a 403 forbidden error. Is this happening to anyone else?
[20:41] <dgjones> Clearze1, see topic
[20:41] <rorra> ok thank you :D
[20:41] <\prybar> Do I have to enable remote desktop in Ubuntu if I'm going from Ubuntu to windows?
[20:41] <Azzmodan> \prybar, no just on the xp machine
[20:41] <nickrud> rorra: welcome to the queue ;)
[20:42] <Profanephobia> lastelement0, what res do you want
[20:42] <Clearze1> oh, thanks
[20:42] <Menacie> how come my azureus closes straight away?
[20:42] <wiseleo> Your call is important to us... if you feel otherwise, press 1...
[20:42] <\prybar> Azz, YesI have UltraVNC server installed and tested with another XP machine
[20:42] <icangoogleit> congrats \prybar
[20:42] <sfire_> \prybar: works perfect using rdesktop ... thats how I access the windows machines.. I use RDP though
[20:42] <lastelement0> Profanephobia, 1280x800
[20:42] <wiseleo> Pry - so are you using VNC or RDP?
[20:42] <Profanephobia> Menacie, start is from terminal using -v
[20:42]  * nickrud got samba updated, wonders why others have issues
[20:42] <icangoogleit> btw x11vnc does the same functionality in that you can join a live X session iirc
[20:42] <Profanephobia> Menacie, azureus -v
[20:43] <icangoogleit> but you have to say the session like: ip.ip.ip.ip:0
[20:43] <icangoogleit> so that would join X session on 0:0
[20:43] <Azzmodan> \prybar, try "telnet <ip of xp machine> 3389"
[20:44] <\prybar> 192.168.1.107
[20:44] <Azzmodan> \prybar, Also the test you did from the other xp machine, was that through hamachi as well or just lan?
[20:44] <\prybar> Trying 5.60.152.81...
[20:44] <\prybar> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[20:44] <adz> adz342@hotmail.co.uk
[20:44] <Lunar_Lamp> nickrud, I think the ubuntu team have blocked samba updates as the packages were broken,.
[20:44] <PinkFloyd> Oh so that's what it is
[20:44] <PinkFloyd> I just came in here to ask that
[20:44] <\prybar> I tested the XP machine through Hamachi using XP and Vista
[20:44] <PinkFloyd> lol
[20:44] <Profanephobia> lastelement0, back up your existing xorg.conf then try this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44789/
[20:44] <wiseleo> pry - make sure Remote Desktop is enabled.
[20:45] <wiseleo> it listens on port 3389
[20:45] <PinkFloyd> Lunar_Lamp, I just got the 403 Forbidden when trying to upgrade and came here to ask. :p
[20:45] <\prybar> Remote Desktop is Enabled on the XP machine using UltraVNC Server
[20:45] <mhnoye1> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.24-2ubuntu1.3_i386.deb
[20:45] <ManuP> is there a possibility to link from a nfs dir to another dir on the server, so that the linked dir is accessable via nfs? i tried ln -s but it hadnt the wished effect.
[20:45] <wiseleo> Prybar - Sorry, you are confused. XP remote desktop is NOT provided by VNC
[20:45] <Lunar_Lamp> PinkFloyd, same here - from what I can tell the samba updates have been blocked as the packages are broken.
[20:45] <Profanephobia> mhnoye1, see topic
[20:45] <PinkFloyd> Lunar_Lamp that's not good
[20:46] <Shoka> mhnoye1 see header, known fault with samba update
[20:46] <Lunar_Lamp> PinkFloyd, don't quote me on that - that's just a guess really.
[20:46] <mhnoye1> Profanephobia: Thanks.
[20:46] <Profanephobia> \prybar, right click my computer then turn on remote access from there
[20:46] <wiseleo> Prybar - if you wish to enable native XP remote desktop (a Pro-only feature), right click on my computer, choose properties, click remote, click the "allow remote control" or whatever it's called.
[20:46] <\prybar> I do not want to use the XP remote desktop
[20:46] <Markon1> lhi all
[20:47] <\prybar> that is why I have UltraVNC installed and working correctly
[20:47] <aragoja> How can I import a Microsoft Windows theme into Ubuntu_
[20:47] <Lunar_Lamp> PinkFloyd, according to the link in the topic the packages hae been stopped awaiting a fix of the patch they applied etc etc.  2hours ago they said it would be fixed soon.
[20:47] <icangoogleit> aragoja you need something called gnome-art
[20:47] <PinkFloyd> Lunar_Lamp ok
[20:47] <wiseleo> prybar - are you connecting to XP through a VNC client or through an RDP client? On what port is your UltraVNC server on XP?
[20:47] <icangoogleit> then grab the wallpapers
[20:47] <icangoogleit> and find a compatable theme from gnome art
[20:47] <icangoogleit> there are several
[20:47] <icangoogleit> ^_^
[20:47] <aragoja> Thank you icangoogleit.
[20:47] <icangoogleit> or if you want it more exact - you need kde + guide
[20:47] <icangoogleit> np aragoja
[20:47] <beviss> ciao
[20:48] <\prybar> I'm trying to access the XP machine from Ubuntu using the Terminal Server Client
[20:48] <Profanephobia> thats remote desktop /pry
[20:48] <Profanephobia> bar
[20:48] <PinkFloyd> \prybar type vncviewer
[20:48] <wiseleo> prybar - to minimize confusion, please refrain from referring to VNC as remote desktop. They avery different
[20:48] <icangoogleit> http://ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/KDE-XP
[20:48] <icangoogleit> look at that one aragoja
[20:48] <wiseleo> Terminal services client does not speak VNC
[20:48] <Azzmodan> \prybar, is there any setting in hamachi that might be blocking the 3389 port? Or maybe the windows firewall has the port limited to a specific subnet
[20:48] <icangoogleit> http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=kde+windows+xp+theme&btnG=Search   <<--- search terms
[20:49] <aragoja> icangoogleit: , when I click at Download on art.gnome.org I find myself redirected to downloads of Gnome itself... I thought Gnome Art would be an application for importing various themes including MSWindows ones?
[20:49] <wiseleo> Azz - he's confused. Trying to use wrong software to connect to a VNC
[20:49] <\prybar> that worked pink
[20:49] <Markon1> Does anyone know how to get the Ubuntu 7.10 Visual effects (compiz/beryal combo) options to work in ubuntu 7.10 with a VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2)
[20:49] <Markon1>  (old dell dimension 8100)  . I had it working great on ubuntu 7.10 using the nv11 driver set, i tried it and the restricted drivers , both dont work when i try to enable the visual effect at any level
[20:49] <\prybar> why does not work through the terminal server client?
[20:49] <icangoogleit> aragoja install gnome-art package from synaptic or apt
[20:49] <nickrud> Lunar_Lamp: I have the latest one in the pool installed ...
[20:49] <icangoogleit> sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[20:49] <PinkFloyd> \prybar that's actually RealVNC but it'll work
[20:49] <icangoogleit> ;)
[20:49] <Profanephobia> \prybar, VNC is not RDP
[20:49] <PinkFloyd> \prybar terminal service doesnt work because it acts like SSH
[20:49] <Markon1> oops type i meant to say i had it working on 7.04
[20:49] <aragoja> Is there a Google Talk client for Ubuntu?
[20:49] <wiseleo> prybar - terminal services client operates over RDP protocol. VNC has nothing in common with it.
[20:50] <aragoja> Thank you icangoogleit.
[20:50] <\prybar> ah ok
[20:50] <icangoogleit> then its in the system > preeferences > art manager
[20:50] <icangoogleit> ^_~
[20:50] <Lunar_Lamp> nickrud, you want to downgrade?
[20:50] <icangoogleit> convienient front end
[20:50] <icangoogleit> has lots of goodies
[20:50] <Profanephobia> aragoja, pidgin has google talk client
[20:50] <\prybar> well thanks alot for the help everyone
[20:50] <icangoogleit> and indexes gnome-art iirc
[20:50] <nickrud> Lunar_Lamp: security.ubuntu.com pool
[20:50] <aragoja> Thanks Profanephobia.
[20:51] <Profanephobia> aragoja, welcome
[20:51] <Azzmodan>  \prybar, Terminal Server Client is specifically for accessing through the Remote Desktop option, it's quite a bit speedier then vnc too
[20:51] <nickrud> Lunar_Lamp: but, since I don't samba except from nautilus, and I'm not going to be using it till next week at work, I'm cool
[20:51]  * wiseleo *loves* RDP :-)
[20:52] <Profanephobia> lastelement0, let me know if it works.. im curious :)
[20:52] <Markon1>  (old dell dimension 8100)  . I had it working great on ubuntu 7.04using the nv11 driver set, i tried it and the restricted drivers , both dont work when i try to enable the visual effect at any level
[20:52] <Markon1> Does anyone know how to get the Ubuntu 7.10 Visual effects (compiz/beryal combo) options to work in ubuntu 7.10 with a VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2)?
[20:52] <ruthbuzzard> do I need something else to make the cube windows in gutsy? is there a difference between compiz and compiz fusion?
[20:53] <wiseleo> GF2 MX is quite old. I wouldn't be surprised if it were not fully supported for effects.
[20:53] <Profanephobia> !csmmccsm
[20:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about csmmccsm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:53] <Profanephobia> oops
[20:53] <MasterOne> anybody present, who has experience with setting up encrypted partitions with luks? please have a look at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3784270 because I am experiencing a very weird problem when trying to add another passphrase or keyfile
[20:53] <icangoogleit> ruthbuzzard yes there is a diff b/t compiz and compiz-fusion
[20:53] <icangoogleit> but lets back up a bit and get you going ok?
[20:53] <Profanephobia> !ccsm ruthbuzzard
[20:53] <icangoogleit> 1. what hardware do you have?
[20:53] <icangoogleit> [cpu / ram / vid card]
[20:53] <icangoogleit> also install that ccsm Profanephobia had bot link u to
[20:53] <nickrud> lol, icangoogleit you can be funny
[20:54] <ruthbuzzard> ubuntu classroom icangoogleit
[20:54] <drarem> what's a decent gtk/gtkmm editor with visual form editing?
[20:54] <ruthbuzzard> ?
[20:54] <Markon1> wiseleo i was curious if it was dropped because i  worked fine in 7.04 on the same machine
[20:54] <Profanephobia> ruthbuzzard, sudo apt-get install ccsm
[20:54] <wiseleo> Markon - sorry can't help with this.
[20:54] <ruthbuzzard> too busy in here having a hard time following it
[20:55] <Markon1> thank you anyway
[20:56] <Profanephobia> ruthbuzzard, if you do sudo apt-get install ccsm you can enable the cube
[20:56] <sayanriju> how do i change my mouse to a left-handed config W/O using the GUI?
[20:56] <icangoogleit> ruthbuzzard ubuntu classroom?
[20:56] <ruthbuzzard> ok
[20:56] <icangoogleit> nickrud thanx lol
[20:56] <Shoka> Merovingian see the link in the header, known issue with samba
[20:56] <TD-Linux> aieeeeeek 403 forbidden?
[20:56] <icangoogleit> ruthbuzzard install it how Profanephobia said for ccsm - thats what lets you adjust the settings - and plugins
[20:56] <wiseleo> Hmm.. Merovingian.. is that name from Mxo by any chance?
[20:57] <TD-Linux> has something gone terribly wrong?
[20:57] <nickrud> TD-Linux: yes, see topic
[20:57] <Shoka> TD-Linux see header - yes
[20:57] <Profanephobia> TD-Linux, what are you trying to access
[20:57] <TD-Linux> aah
[20:57] <TD-Linux> that's it
[20:57] <Profanephobia> oh that again
[20:57] <TD-Linux> I usually read topics
[20:57] <nickrud> ubotu should auto reply to 403 forbidden for a while :)
[20:57] <TD-Linux> but when they start with a bunch of links.... tl;dr
[20:58] <drarem> No!  No!  glade is the answer, ok?   glade
[20:58] <frague> hi all
[20:58] <alwiap> hi ^_^
[20:58] <ruthbuzzard> icangoogleit
[20:59] <ruthbuzzard> it is another channel I am alreasy in
[20:59] <frague> there is a right problem on the server
[20:59] <frague> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb
[20:59] <Profanephobia> frague, look at topic
[20:59] <Shoka> frague - see header, known issue with samba
[20:59] <ruthbuzzard> Reading state information... Done
[20:59] <ruthbuzzard> E: Couldn't find package ccsm
[20:59] <Sharpie> nearly every time i restart my pc, the icons on my panels get mixed up (in order). any idea why/how to fix this?
[21:00] <ruthbuzzard> icangoogleit /join #ubuntu-classroom
[21:00] <frague> synaptic is unable to download this file, 403 error (permission denied on the server)
[21:00] <crackintosh> Is there any way I can add two ip addresses (internal/external) to my known_hosts file, I want two hosts to share the same IP.
[21:00] <Profanephobia> sry
[21:00] <williamwade> i now you must get this alot. but, how do i solve azureus crashing straight after loading?
[21:00] <crackintosh> I want two hosts to share the same key I mean.
[21:00] <Sharpie> williamwade: don't install 2.5.0.0
[21:00] <nickrud> sayanriju: add the line Option "ButtonMapping" "3 2 1" to your mouse section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:00] <Shoka> frague see header known issue with samba
[21:00] <williamwade> i changed my java to gcj
[21:00] <Profanephobia> ruthbuzzard, sry its sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:00] <DrCortex> will having two bash windows open at once cause nay problems
[21:00] <crackintosh> williamwade: why'd you do that
[21:00] <DrCortex> * any
[21:01] <williamwade> crack:i read some people had solved it that way
[21:01] <Sharpie> williamwade: azureus 2.5.0.0 from the repo doesn't work, get 2.5.0.4 or 3
[21:01] <williamwade> how can i downgrade below 2.5.0.0
[21:01] <mdickinson> crackintosh: 1.2.3.4 host1 host2
[21:01] <mdickinson> should work
[21:02] <Sharpie> williamwade: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=84122
[21:02] <Sharpie> williamwade: you can get the 2.5.0.4 jar and replace it with the 2.5.0.0 one and it'll work
[21:02] <crackintosh> williamwade: I think gcj is depreciated in recent ubuntu releases and the community in general, but i might be wrong.
[21:02] <frague> ok, I've seen
[21:02] <williamwade> can i do that with the 3.0 jar?
[21:02] <frague> sory and good night !
[21:02] <ruthbuzzard> Profanephobia: I have no installed anything else but nvidia driver, I only have what is installed by default
[21:02] <sayanriju> nickrud: is this how the GUI tools do it in the backend?
[21:02] <Sharpie> williamwade: i guess, but i prefer 2.5.0.4 over 3
[21:03] <wiseleo> java-6-sun might be a good idea...
[21:03] <nickrud> sayanriju: I'm not sure how the gui tools do it, I'd venture a guess they use xmodmap
[21:03] <DrCortex> wine looks like 'whine' like ur 'whining' you cant use you're windows programs so you get wine
[21:03] <DrCortex> lol
[21:03] <DrCortex> LOL
[21:03] <Sharpie> williamwade: and, make sure you have sun-java6-jre
[21:04] <sayanriju> nickrud: yeh...it shld do it 'live', i.e wo restarting X
[21:04] <frague> about torrent grabbers, I use foxtorrent, it's realy a good client
[21:04] <sayanriju> nickrud: thanx all the same. I'l check xmodmap
[21:04] <webmaren> i'm receiving a 403 error when trying to make samba update
[21:04] <nickrud> sayanriju: true, but you'd have to do it each time you started X, xmodmap is transient
[21:04] <webmaren> nvm just read title
[21:04] <icangoogleit> um
[21:04] <icangoogleit> would you like some api with that wine DrCortex ? ~_^
[21:04] <sayanriju> sayanriju: hmm...is there any standalone GUI which I can use with my fluxbox
[21:05] <sayanriju> i don't need all those gnome deps!
[21:05] <DrCortex> lol
[21:05] <nickrud> sayanriju: if you go the xmodmap route, and use gnome, add the xmodmap command to ~/.gnomerc (create it if necessary)
[21:05] <DrCortex> lol, I installed wine with bash
[21:05] <frague> bye all
[21:05] <DrCortex> it's kool installing programs with bash
[21:05] <DrCortex> that's how they did it in the 90's
[21:06] <nickrud> DrCortex: o.O , I feel so old now
[21:06] <newbe2100> I need help from a pro, any 1?
[21:06] <Menacie> i still cant get azureus to run
[21:06] <williamwade> whats the path for the azureus files?
[21:06] <riotkittie> sigh.
[21:06] <Menacie> i installed it, yet it closes straight away
[21:06] <nickrud> Menacie: try running it from the command line, see what kind of errors you get
[21:06] <sidlet_> nickrud: dont feel bad. I'm only 24 and that statement makes ME feel old :P
[21:07] <riotkittie> it shouldn't.
[21:07] <Menacie> ozzy@ozzy-desktop:~$ azureus
[21:07] <Menacie> #
[21:07] <Menacie> # An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment:
[21:07] <Menacie> #
[21:07] <Menacie> #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb44d874b, pid=16065, tid=3084118928
[21:07] <Menacie> #
[21:07] <Menacie> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.6.0_03-b05 mixed mode, sharing)
[21:07] <nickrud> sidlet_: lol, you're a CHILD :)
[21:07] <Menacie> # Problematic frame:
[21:07] <Menacie> # C  [libglibjni-0.4.so+0xb74b]
[21:07] <Menacie> #
[21:07] <Sharpie> williamwade: sudo cp ~/..whereever/Azureus2.jar /usr/share/java
[21:07] <Menacie> # An error report file with more information is saved as hs_err_pid16065.log
[21:07] <Menacie> #
[21:07] <Menacie> # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
[21:07] <Menacie> #   http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport/crash.jsp
[21:07] <sidlet_> nickrud: in some ways :)
[21:07] <Menacie> #
[21:07] <Menacie> Aborted (core dumped)
[21:07] <Sharpie> Menacie USE THE FUCKING PASTEBIN
[21:07] <Menacie> ozzy@ozzy-desktop:~$
[21:07] <LuitvD> I'm getting an error while updating smb support
[21:07] <Menacie> sorry
[21:07] <newbe2100> I managed to install icq6 but i can't run the app.
[21:07] <LuitvD> from security.ubuntu.com servers
[21:07] <LuitvD> Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main smbclient 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1
[21:07] <LuitvD>   403 Forbidden
[21:07] <nickrud> LuitvD: see topic
[21:08] <LuitvD> nickrud: where?
[21:08] <wiseleo> lui /topic
[21:08] <Shoka> LuitvD see forum header - known issue with samba
[21:08] <LuitvD> ah, i see
[21:08] <woooosh> simple q: when there are updates to ubuntu, is there a published list of what is being updated, what day and why?
[21:08] <DrCortex> and why do I have to defragment every time before I turn off windows to be able to use the files from drv3_vol1 from ubuntu
[21:08] <DrCortex> -.-
[21:09] <erUSUL> !paste | Menacie
[21:09] <ubotu> Menacie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:09] <LuitvD> right, gone again
[21:09] <Sharpie> !paste > Menacie
[21:09] <Sharpie> just so he won't miss it :P
[21:09] <nickrud> woooosh: not that I've seen, but the changelogs are available in synaptic and aptitude
[21:09] <newbe2100> ppl can any 1 help me with a icq installation on wine ?
[21:10] <erUSUL> !im | newbe2100
[21:10] <ubotu> newbe2100: The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !kopete
[21:10] <woooosh> aha, ok - i guess thats kind of understandable - thanks :)
[21:10] <wiseleo> hit C in aptitude for a changelog...
[21:10] <woooosh> ok
[21:10] <Lifeisfunny> what is samba?
[21:10] <nvidiadude> hey. is it possible to quad-boot xp x32, ubuntu 7.10 i386, vista x64, and mac osx?
[21:10] <newbe2100> ubotu but the oner of this comp. want's icq6
[21:10] <akincer> newbe2100: As someone has pointed out, Pidgin will handle your ICQ account for you without any unwanted stuff the closed source program has (if any)
[21:10] <nickrud> woooosh: or aptitude changelog <package>
[21:11] <apple-gunkies> I rebooted gutsy and all of a sudden sound doesn't work at all... can anyone help?
[21:11] <Lifeisfunny> I got some updates for samba but they don't install
[21:11] <LiENUS> nvidiadude, as long as you have a mac yes
[21:11] <nvidiadude> cool.
[21:11] <LiENUS> http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/bootcamp.html
[21:11] <woooosh> all good, thanks again everyone
[21:11] <nvidiadude> thank you my man
[21:11] <akincer> newbe: There isn't much to it to give WINE a shot, but I wouldn't hold your breath that it will work
[21:11] <nvidiadude> ive always loved ubuntu cause of this channel
[21:11] <nickrud> Lifeisfunny: see topic
[21:11] <newbe2100> but the pidgin does not have all the flash and games as the windows ver
[21:11] <wiseleo> nvidia - I had 10 OSs on my 286 once... an exercise in masochism :)
[21:12] <Lifeisfunny> nickrud, ok
[21:12] <LiENUS> i'd skip the vista if i were you though
[21:12] <nvidiadude> hehe
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> newbe2100 one mans flash is another mans "useless bloat'
[21:12] <newbe2100> I managed to install it
[21:12] <akincer> newbe: Are you sure Ubuntu is the right fit for this person?
[21:12] <LiENUS> vista networking is hell
[21:12] <nickrud> Lifeisfunny: but with aptitude interactive, you can fix the dependency problems
[21:12] <newbe2100> after installing some dll's but it won't run
[21:12] <Flare183> Is there a such thing as a pie graph for a flash drive in kde?
[21:12] <LiENUS> btw you probably need to install windows xp and vista first
[21:12] <Menacie> how do i restore panels?
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> Flare183 you want a pie-chart of the free space of a drive?
[21:13] <riotkittie> Menacie: right click on an existing panel > new panel
[21:13] <akincer> newbe: Grab the latest version and give it a shot
[21:13] <newbe2100> the error is:err:ole:marshal_object object doesn't expose interface {0000000c-0000-0000-c000-000000000046}, failing with error 0x80004002
[21:13] <Flare183> dr_willis:> yeah something like that
[21:13] <ctx144k_> hello all, someone uses ubuntu7.10 with xen?
[21:13] <Lifeisfunny> nickrud, could you give me some info like what is samba?
[21:13] <nickrud> Menacie: sudo killall gnome-panel should restart them, if they are running but not giveable
[21:13] <akincer> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[21:13] <nickrud> !samba | Lifeisfunny
[21:13] <ubotu> Lifeisfunny: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[21:13] <ctx144k_> a friend get the follow error while starting xen:
[21:13] <TNDT> hey, im having problems manipulating wii iso files
[21:13] <nickrud> Lifeisfunny: basically a way to see windows shares
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> Flare183 thers several 'disk space' graphical tools out. Some are for KDE. they should work for a flash drive as well.
[21:13] <TNDT> aside from not being able to move around files larger than 4gb
[21:13] <ctx144k_> Error: Device 0 (vif) could not be connected. Hotplug scripts not working.
[21:14] <ctx144k_> vif = [ 'type=ioemu, bridge=xenbr0' ]
[21:14] <TNDT> i cant even open the iso files, although windows seems to do it fine
[21:14] <Flare183> dr_willis:> can you give me any examples?
[21:14] <ubuntu> &uit
[21:14] <TNDT> any ideas on either issue?
[21:14] <as3> rus
[21:14] <akincer> newbe: I saw a similar error on an application. It might be a regression. There have been some in the most recent versions
[21:14] <newbe2100> any ideas ?
[21:14] <KOJV> How can I create Windows File shares in Ubuntu? I.e. share my hard drive so a Windows box on the network can read it.
[21:14] <Lifeisfunny> nickrud, ok thanks.  I don't need it actually since I don't have a windows os
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> Flare183 not really - i havent used tehm in ages. fire up the package manager and look for 'disk space' or similer search terms
[21:14] <Flare183> k
[21:14] <erUSUL> !samba | KOJV
[21:14] <ubotu> KOJV: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[21:15] <KOJV> Thank you erUSUL!
[21:15] <nickrud> Lifeisfunny: ah, you are intellectually advanced, then
[21:15] <akincer> newbe: Try the very latest version (0.9.49), download Crossover and give it shot or try to download and compile an older version
[21:15] <ricanelite> is Envy a good way to install Nvidia Drives on my new Geforce 6800GS?
[21:15] <nickrud> Flare183: try apps->accessories->disk space analyzer
[21:15] <erUSUL> !envy | ricanelite
[21:15] <ubotu> ricanelite: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> ricanelite avoide envy.
[21:15] <newbe2100> it's the latest version
[21:15] <akincer> newbe: what version?
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> ricanelite the 'restricted-manager' tool installed the needed drivers for my 6800 just fine.
[21:15] <Lifeisfunny> nickrud, hahaha, not really just want to get away from what seems to be a permanent drain in the wallet.
[21:16] <erUSUL> ricanelite: same for my 7300gt
[21:16] <ricanelite> okay, and I really mean
[21:16] <ricanelite> the 6400GS
[21:16] <ricanelite> sorry
[21:16] <newbe2100> when I tried an early version the istallation creashed ubuntu
[21:16] <KOJV> How would my bank's applications run in Wine?
[21:16] <newbe2100> when I tried an early version the installation crashed ubuntu
[21:16] <akincer> newbe: Did you grab the latest that is provided via Ubuntu repositories or the latest via these instructioins: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[21:16] <undauntedspirit> Anyone know of a cumulative bandwidth logger?  (That keeps stats after a reboot?)
[21:16] <akincer> The two are NOT one in the same
[21:17] <ntoxin> :P
[21:17] <ricanelite> well the reason what im having is when I get into to the login screen the resoultion is high but then when I hit the desktop the screen resolution goes into normal resoultion
[21:17] <erUSUL> !fixres | ricanelite
[21:17] <ubotu> ricanelite: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:17] <nickrud> ricanelite: try system->prefs->screen resolution, if the X is working, that should be also
[21:17] <newbe2100> I install the latest wine from wineHD its .49
[21:18] <KOJV> Is Wine generally a good idea for running those Win32 applications a converted user just can't go without?
[21:18] <erUSUL> ricanelite: System>Admin>screen and graphics solved those kind of problems for me also you can try nvidia-settings
[21:18] <JordiGH> In Debian, it's generally a bad idea to switch betwen aptitude and apt-get. Is the same true here?
[21:18] <akincer> newbe: Then there's not much more you can do short of contacting the WINE list and seeing if they know more
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> KOJV if it can run them and do a good job of it.. why not.
[21:18] <Menacie> fuck i cant restore the panels bacl
[21:18] <kazol2> What's a good amount of swap for 2GiB of RAM?
[21:18] <TNDT> anybody know how i can move files larger than 4gb or how i can open a wii iso (i can open other isos without a problem)?
[21:18] <akincer> try the latest versions. I expect another one will come out in a week or so
[21:18] <bruenig> kazol2, 300 mb
[21:18] <JordiGH> kazol: 500 megs, probably less.
[21:19] <kazol2> ok
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> kazol2  this a laptop? You going to use hibernate or suspend?  i always do 512 at least.
[21:19] <fett2k> anyone, i cant find the patch for my wifi card Intel 4965 AGN, so i cant re-inject packets to the network... anyone knows where can i find the patch?
[21:19] <levander> No one knows how to copy and paste from a PDF document do they?
[21:19] <JordiGH> levander: Most PDF readers can do it.
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> levander i thouhg ive just selected the text, and cut/pasted befor.
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> unless of course the PDF doc is just a lot of jpgs :)
[21:20] <JordiGH> I'm not sure if the default Gnome PDF reader, but kpdf certainly can.
[21:20] <newbe2100> I was very glad that i managed to install the icq6, I didn't think it would not run
[21:20] <JordiGH> Dr_Willis: Even in that case, some pdf readers do OCR.
[21:20] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: or is protected
[21:20] <xivanari> hello folks
[21:20] <xivanari> i have a problem i need some help with
[21:20] <DrCortex> I added a windows program to wine but it wont show up in the menu for it
[21:20] <akincer> newbe: WINE is still being developed. They have occasional regressions that take a while to sort out (like now)
[21:21] <DrCortex> what
[21:21] <akincer> DrCortex: Give winefix a try
[21:21] <DrCortex> ...
[21:21] <bruenig> fett2k, I assume you are using iwlwifi?
[21:21] <DrCortex> does linux have to be this complicated
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> DrCortex wine is not linux. :)
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> DrCortex wine is  a very complex tool.
[21:21] <fett2k> bruenig how can i see that?
[21:21] <DrCortex> kurt@ubuntu:~$ winefix
[21:21] <DrCortex> bash: winefix: command not found
[21:22] <akincer> DrCortex: I could argue that point a thousand different ways with Windows, so relax
[21:22] <nivekc1> how can i extract an .rar in  ubuntu
[21:22] <sn00zer> imo linux isn't complicated, just unfamiliar
[21:22] <bruenig> DrCortex, the wine menu is a very new thing, it is completely artificial
[21:22] <akincer> DrCorex: Try Google
[21:22] <newbe2100> I'm trieng to "sell" ubuntu to this owner but he demands ICQ and OFFICE
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> DrCortex the fact it dident make an icon.. well.. you could always go make an icon for it. Or a script that launches whtever it is you want. Its also possible that your menus just need to get refreshed.
[21:22] <bruenig> DrCortex, wine only runs exes actually
[21:22] <akincer> hang on . . .
[21:22] <nickrud> newbe2100: if he requires office, give him microsoft, it's the only way
[21:22] <akincer> DrCortex: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/Winefix-31532.shtml
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> newbe2100 then you can charge extra for the anti-virus and other things. :)
[21:23] <erUSUL> newbe2100: pidgin claims to support icq
[21:23] <nickrud> lol, Dr_Willis must be a consultant
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> nickrud im just sick of being everyones free tech support at work.. so now i have a pricelist. :P
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> nickrud i did make $20 salvaging some Pictures off a dead hd. :)
[21:24] <newbe2100> but does pidgin run the flash games ?
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> "Funny looks are still Free"
[21:24] <sidlet_> Hmm.. Bibble = crud
[21:24] <nickrud> Dr_Willis: heh. Sadly, I am the windows guy in the office, and I totally skipped from 98 to vista. Sucks
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> newbe2100 no its not a web browser. its an IM client.
[21:24] <erUSUL> newbe2100: do not think so...
[21:24] <nickrud> newbe2100: and shockwave doesn't run on linux either
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> newbe2100 if your client wants  ICQ just for the games.. id say RUN the other way...
[21:24] <nivekc1> how do i extract an .rar in gusty
[21:25] <newbe2100> in ICQ6 their is flash games !!
[21:25] <erUSUL> !info unrar | nivekc1
[21:25] <ubotu> nivekc1: unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1.1 (gutsy), package size 94 kB, installed size 232 kB
[21:25] <nickrud> !rar | nivekc1
[21:25] <xivanari> is anyone here?
[21:25] <xivanari> whew has 12s lag!
[21:25] <xivanari> or my network just died.
[21:25] <ubotu> nivekc1: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[21:25] <akincer> newbie: If someone wants flash games, I don't think ICQ is the best place for that. But I'm not familiar with ICQ
[21:25] <ivan_> hey.. anybody know how to setup tomcat on ubuntu? or a link to a GOOD howto that isn't outdated?
[21:25] <frojnd> does anyone know for the name of GUI torrent client, it's something like pedgu or smth..?
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> newbe2100 so!!  :)  they got some browser/parts built into the client now.. :)
[21:25] <ivan_> trying to setup centriccrm.. but don't have any exp. with java stuff =(
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> I have been able to get a lot of PopCap Games working with Wine. :)
[21:26] <akincer> Me too. Bookworm Deluxe works
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> akincer Yep. :) and been doing Peggle
[21:26] <nickrud> Wine is kinda cool, but I don't think I'd depend on it for productive work
[21:26] <sn00zer> frojnd i use azureus for torrents
[21:26] <DrCortex> how do I give a specific program permission to do things
[21:26] <fett2k> anyone knows where can i find the patch for Intel 4965 AGN (wifi card) so i can re-inject packets?
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> DrCortex what 'things' ?
[21:26] <nickrud> DrCortex: it'd depend on the app and what
[21:27] <DrCortex> im using wine to install a program to /home/documents
[21:27] <ivan_> hm....
[21:27] <DrCortex> and it just says it doesnt have permission or soemthing
[21:27] <somnambulist_> what is the ubuntu way of loading modules automatically at boot time? should i edit /etc/modules? i come from gentoo
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> wine normally installs things to the .wine/drive_c/ directory
[21:27] <akincer> DrCortex: WINE has its own way of installing stuff. Try not to fight it
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> wine keeps a 'fake' windows install in .wine
[21:27] <godzirra> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong here:  http://pastebin.com/d7eec4543  I keep getting an error saying  unreported exception java.io.FileNotFoundException; on lines 5 and 6.
[21:27] <TNDT> anybody know how i can move files larger than 4gb or how i can open a wii iso (i can open other isos without a problem)?
[21:27] <godzirra> Wrong channel.
[21:27] <nickrud> somnambulist_: that's the canonical spot, yes, if the kernel doesn't autoload them
[21:27] <akincer> That's why I pointed you to winefix--it will put menu items in the Applications menu
[21:28] <erUSUL> TNDT: where are those files located? ntfs or fat partition? maybe that's the problem
[21:28] <jshriver> greetings
[21:28] <Kl4m> godzirra: ##java
[21:28] <somnambulist_> nickrud, i had to build this module manually, it's got a BSD license, not included in the linux source
[21:28] <TNDT> theyr starting out on a ext3 partition and im trying to move them to a fat32
[21:28] <nickrud> somnambulist_: yes, add it to /etc/modules on it's own line
[21:29] <jshriver> I just rebooted my machine now X seems to freeze on starting. I get the gdm login then it goes to the screen that normally has the "loading x, y, z" and stopping there
[21:29] <somnambulist_> nickrud, is that all i need to do then? and of course i'll modprobe it manually
[21:29] <jshriver> running Gutsy
[21:29] <nickrud> somnambulist_: those modules get loaded at boot
[21:29] <jshriver> tried /etc/init.d/gdm stop then start
[21:29] <jshriver> no help
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> fat32 has a 4gb file size limit? i forget...
[21:29] <void^> TNDT: you can't store files larger than 4gb on a fat32 partition.
[21:29] <somnambulist_> nickrud, ok thx
[21:29] <fett2k> anyone knows where can i find the patch for Intel 4965 AGN (wifi card) so i can re-inject packets?
[21:29] <bamsamba> Hi, i can see the files I share on a windows machine from Ubuntu, but not the other way around. heck, i can't see the files i've shared on my ubuntu box from nautilus either. Well, i can see them, just can't execute/open folders. here's the conf file: http://rafb.net/p/APzRD377.html
[21:30] <Henkie> previous version(s) of ubuntu used evms as default, why the change?
[21:30] <TNDT> thanks
[21:30] <frojnd> sn00zer, no not azureus it's something liter... the name is like pedgu or smth ..
[21:30] <zerokool> lol kool now i have mirc on ubuntu with wine
[21:30] <erUSUL> somnambulist_: yes edit /etc/modules
[21:30] <Menacie> i cant restore panels, can anyone help?
[21:30] <DrCortex> bbl
[21:30] <DrCortex> actually lol I'm already on with mirc
[21:30] <godzirra> Kl4m: hence me saying its teh wrong channel :)  I meant to paste it to ##java :)
[21:30] <jshriver> zerokool: just use xchat
[21:31] <zerokool> xchat sucks
[21:31] <zerokool> -.-
[21:31] <akincer> I use Pidgin for IRC
[21:31] <bamsamba> !samba
[21:31] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[21:31] <jshriver> ok whatever you like best :)
[21:31]  * jshriver is using irssi
[21:31] <zerokool> you canl't write scripts for xchat
[21:31] <jshriver> since X is broken!
[21:31] <zerokool> !wine
[21:31] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[21:31] <jshriver> Can someone help me out?
[21:31] <nickrud> Menacie: if alt-f2 killall gnome-panel didn't work, try alt-f2 gnome-panel
[21:31] <fett2k> !drivers
[21:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:31] <erUSUL> jshriver: cheers
[21:31] <zerokool> !C:\
[21:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c:\ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:31] <zerokool> !/root
[21:31] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:31] <ata4ix> hi there, anybody knows  how to complitely disable ipv6 in ubuntu?
[21:31] <neumind> in testphp is some useful information for hackers?
[21:32] <erUSUL> !botabuse | zerokool
[21:32] <ubotu> zerokool: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[21:32] <Kl4m> Of course X-chat has scripting
[21:32] <nickrud> !ip6
[21:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip6 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:32] <erUSUL> nickrud: ipv6
[21:32] <zerokool> well there's more for mirc
[21:32] <jshriver> Ok I changed the session and was able to load blackbox
[21:32] <Kl4m> zerokool: You mean, existing scripts, then yes
[21:32] <nickrud> erUSUL: I'd claim typo, but that would be lying ;)
[21:32] <fett2k> !ipw
[21:32] <jshriver> so guessing Gnome is what's screwed up
[21:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:32] <jshriver> any tips?
[21:32] <nickrud> !ipv6
[21:32] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[21:32] <zerokool> and mirc doesnt make a beeping noise come out of my harddrive when i press backspace when there's no text behind the cursor
[21:32] <erUSUL> nickrud: ;) lol
[21:33] <jshriver> X works and blackbox will work if I change session, but gnome wont load
[21:33] <Flare183> ok
[21:33] <sn00zer> frojnd: have you tried uTorrent?
[21:33] <erUSUL> jshriver: have you tried a clean user? )not yours)
[21:33] <Kl4m> zerokool: Hehe I never realized that. Yes I agree it's annoying
[21:33] <jshriver> hrm let me try...
[21:33] <jshriver> brb
[21:34] <ntoxin> Anybody get Guild wars running with wine???
[21:35] <frojnd> sn00zer, is it for linux already? I don't install programs with wine..
[21:35] <erUSUL> !appdb | ntoxin
[21:35] <ubotu> ntoxin: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[21:35] <frojnd> sn00zer, is it for linux already? I don't install programs with wine..
[21:35] <sn00zer> frojnd: there's also deluge, don't know anything about it tho
[21:35] <frojnd> sn00zer, is it for linux already? I don't install programs with wine.. sorry my network is in ***
[21:35] <ntoxin> thanks!
[21:35] <ata4ix> nickrud> 10x
[21:35] <jshriver> still doesnt work
[21:35] <fett2k> !iwlwifi
[21:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iwlwifi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:35] <jshriver> adduser test, then tried logging in as test
[21:35] <erUSUL> frojnd: deluge is a nice client
[21:36] <jshriver> still have that light brown/tan color background
[21:36] <jshriver> almost like gnome isn't even loading
[21:36] <frojnd> erUSUL: thanx I was looking for deluge, just couldn't remember the n  ame :)
[21:36] <jshriver> also how do you turn off the firewall?
[21:36] <erUSUL> frojnd: there's also transmission
[21:36] <jshriver> usually use firestarter but can't since X is borked
[21:36] <ata4ix> my hp kaserjet 1020 dont work under kubuntu 7.10 :( dirvers are installed and there is ok, but not print pages :(
[21:36] <Polygon89> hello, are the repos misbehaving for anyone else here? i keep getting 403 forbidden errors and i cant install something cuase apt is yelling about it....
[21:36] <akincer> jshriver: Why would you want to do that?
[21:36] <ata4ix> anybody can help?
[21:37] <frojnd> erUSUL: I'll stick with deluge
[21:37] <Core2QUAD> i have an .avi file that i need to make into a video CD and it looks as though K3B will only do mpeg files is there something else i can use?
[21:37] <jshriver> akincer: just want it down while I dd some things over a ssh tunnel
[21:37] <jshriver> dont feel like poking a hole for a machine that will only be on my switch a couple hours
[21:37] <hanasaki> what do I need to change in exim as it ships so that I can send outgoing mail after authenticating?  it is saying "relay denied" but does allow me to send to my own domain
[21:37] <jshriver> Is it possible to completely remove gnome and reinstall it fresh?
[21:38] <jsschmid1> how can I obtain the source files in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/SOURCE ? is there a way with apt-get
[21:38] <jsschmid1> ??
[21:38] <hanasaki> jsschmid1:  check the kernel source packagers
[21:38] <jshriver> nvm /etc/init.d/firestarter stop :)
[21:38] <jshriver> now to get X working
[21:39] <jsschmid1> hanasaki: ? check, what do you mean by check?
[21:39] <fett2k> anyone knows where can i find the patch for Intel 4965 AGN (wifi card) so i can re-inject packets?
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> !kernel
[21:39] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[21:39] <ata4ix> how to change console resolution on boot? from 80x25 to more
[21:39] <ata4ix> ?
[21:39] <Core2QUAD> i have an .avi file that i need to make into a video CD and it looks as though K3B will only do mpeg files is there something else i can use?
[21:39] <jsschmid1> ubotu: thanks :-)
[21:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks :-) - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> ata4ix the grub menu.lst has a vga= option that can change that, or on the fly i think you can use the fbset command (install it if you need it)
[21:40] <jsschmid1> Dr_Willis: thanks...!
[21:40] <ata4ix> wow
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> Core2QUAD convert it to mpeg then use k3b?
[21:40] <ata4ix> Dr_Willis, :)
[21:40] <newbe2100> how do i change group permission ?
[21:40] <ata4ix> Dr_Willis, i can change this from os, without rebooting?
[21:40] <Core2QUAD> i may lose video quality?
[21:40] <jshriver> hrm I just tried failsafe gnome, still doesnt load
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> actually a .avi could be a mpg codec.
[21:40] <jsschmid1> Dr_Willis: where can I find a list of the commands for ubotu?
[21:40] <jshriver> .avi is just a container could have anything pushed into it
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> ata4ix on the fly - use the fbset command
[21:40] <erUSUL> newbe2100: right click on the file select properties then the permissions tab
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> !ubotu
[21:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:41] <jshriver> checkout mplayer
[21:41] <nickrud> jshriver: you tried creating a new user, and gnome didn't work there either?
[21:41] <jshriver> nickrud: aye
[21:41] <jsschmid1> Dr_Willis:  great, thanks!
[21:41] <andy_js> !
[21:41] <Core2QUAD> so the easiest thing to do would be make it insto an mpg??\
[21:41] <jshriver> just goes to that startup screen after the gdm login Doesnt even show the progress window. Just shows the background screen
[21:41] <Core2QUAD> i dont want to lose any audio or video quality
[21:41] <ata4ix> Dr_Willis, 10x you very mach!
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> Core2QUAD theres other tools out for making dvd vbideo. But i never mess with converting things to dvd. So i dont know how well they work
[21:42] <newbe2100> erUSUL it says that i'm not the owner !
[21:42] <jshriver> Core2QUAD: try mencoder and transcode it into whatever you want
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> Core2QUAD a lot depend on the quality of the initial video
[21:42] <Core2QUAD> the quality is superb
[21:42] <rpereira> Hey Guys do you know a list of update releases from Ubuntu Dapper LTS?
[21:43] <Core2QUAD> is there a linux program similar to sonic dvd creator?
[21:43] <erUSUL> newbe2100: it's that true, are you the owner of the file?
[21:43] <jshriver> How can I kill my gnome settings and just have it default to the original settings?
[21:43] <ata4ix> really cool chanell!
[21:43] <erUSUL> !burn
[21:43] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[21:43] <newbe2100> erUSUL  I think I have to do it from sodo
[21:43] <newbe2100> the owner is root
[21:43] <erUSUL> newbe2100: then use chmod
[21:44] <jshriver> Nero for linux is very nice.
[21:44] <erUSUL> newbe2100: sudo chmod g+[rwx] file
[21:44] <jshriver> and cheap
[21:44] <jsschmid1> !kernel
[21:44] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> Core2QUAD i imagine most in here have no idea what 'sonic dvd creater' even is. :) othe rthen by guessing from its name.  -  Making a dvd under linux is normally not a 'click' and its done task.
[21:44] <nickrud> jshriver: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde has a section on removing gnome completely, be warned that the end of the line installs kubuntu-desktop, you'll want to edit it to ubuntu-desktop
[21:44] <ata4ix> fbset -s
[21:44] <ata4ix> open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
[21:44] <JordiGH> jshriver: And non-free and unnecessary since k3b does everything.
[21:44] <icangoogleit> jshriver so is k3b
[21:44] <torpedo|dog> How do I set output to the USB sound card? I've selected it in the Gnome sound preferences window, but the sound still plays through my laptop's internal speakers
[21:44] <ata4ix> what does it mean?
[21:44] <icangoogleit> the nero is easy to find serial for
[21:44] <icangoogleit> er scratch that
[21:44] <meheren> is there a way to add to a finalized cd-r?
[21:44] <icangoogleit> >_>
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> ata4ix looks like you may not have the framebuffer enabled.
[21:45] <jshriver> JordiGH: doesnt k3b require you to premaster iso's with mkisofs beforehand?  I like nero because it build the iso fs as it's burning. Can make a DVD in about 15 minutes
[21:45] <icangoogleit> meheren never tried
[21:45] <icangoogleit> but i believe probably so
[21:45] <ata4ix> Dr_Willis, how i can enable them?
[21:45] <icangoogleit> google is your friend.
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> ata4ix i always disable the framebuffer anyway. I hate it. :)
[21:45] <JordiGH> jshriver: No, it doesn't need you to do that.
[21:45] <ata4ix> why ^)
[21:45] <DaveRM> I am having a problem with google earth servers for the last 2 days. I'm using 7.10/64bit. Any one else with the problem?
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> ata4ix  i thoght i was enabled by default. It may depend on your video card.
[21:45] <jshriver> last I checked k3b would make the iso's for you,but it still used mkisofs to generate the image in /tmp first
[21:45] <ata4ix> hm
[21:46] <JordiGH> jshriver: You want to burn some files with k3b, you select (click and drag), you click the burning disc icon, and that's all.
[21:46] <ata4ix> ati x1600
[21:46] <jshriver> so you had to have k3d master the iso first, then burn it. instead of burn on the fly
[21:46] <jshriver> and buffer protection support sucked
[21:46] <jshriver> hrm nifty
[21:46] <Menacie> can anyone show me a pic of their desktop please
[21:46] <jsschmid1> !git
[21:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about git - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:46] <jshriver> well I haven't used k3b or tested it in 2 years so I'll give it some slack, prob a lot better now :)
[21:46] <JordiGH> jshriver: Try it out. It roxx0rz. No need to recommend non-free software at least in this area.
[21:47] <jshriver> alrighty :)
[21:47] <Kl4m> About the scripts in /etc/rc?.d/, are they executer in "alphabetical" order?
[21:47] <jshriver> what was that package again gnome-desktop?
[21:47] <Kl4m> executed
[21:47] <nickrud> Kl4m: alphanumeric, yes
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> k3b does keep getting better and better.. of course it has more tools then i need.. :) but people seem to think that cd-burnign tools now a days need to have instant avi->dvd buttons.
[21:48] <fett2k> anyone knows where i can find patch for Intel 4965 AGN (wifi card) so i can re-inject packets?
[21:48] <nickrud> Kl4m: S?? in that order on run level start, K?? in that order on runlevel stop
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> Kl4m numerical order. :)
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> S01   then S02.. ect...
[21:48] <Kl4m> ok,
[21:48] <jshriver> Dr_Willis: Linux does need a good DVD authoring program. I have yet to successfully make a video DVD. I created the mpeg2 stream using mencdoer and followed every doc out there, used dvdauth.. nothing ever worked.
[21:48] <riotkittie> numbetical.
[21:48] <friedrich> Hi. How can I disable precompiled driver during the load?
[21:48] <Henkie> jshriver, qtdvdauthor
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> jshriver i just cheat and use mythtvs feature that can do that. :) but i just record tv shows.
[21:49] <jsschmid1> !feisty
[21:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) was the sixth release of Ubuntu.  Upgrading to Fesity: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[21:49] <nickrud> friedrich: blacklist it in a file in /etc/modprobe.d , see blacklist in that file for the syntax
[21:49] <jsschmid1> !gutsy
[21:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> I saw that nero8 was out in the stores now.  :)
[21:49] <erUSUL> !blacklist | friedrich
[21:49] <ubotu> friedrich: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[21:49] <the_mug> is anyone else getting 403s when doing an update? http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbfs_3.0.22-1ubuntu4.3_i386.deb
[21:50] <bic> YEAH
[21:50] <riotkittie> someone needs to spellcheck those factoids :x  fesity. heh.
[21:50] <bic> i get a 403
[21:50] <bic> libsmbclient, samba-common, smclient for these packages
[21:50] <icangoogleit> jshriver there is a great thread in the forums on tovid
[21:50] <friedrich> nickrud, it doesn't work
[21:50] <bic> whats wrong?
[21:50] <jsschmid1> which is the current KERNEL of Gutsy again?
[21:50] <icangoogleit> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183936
[21:50] <friedrich> it's built-in module, does it matter?
[21:50] <icangoogleit> os[Linux 2.6.22-14-generic - Debian lenny/sid - Ubuntu DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu ( http://www.ubuntu.com )] | up[1 hours, 50 minutes] | cpu[Genuine Intel(R) CPU            2160  @ 1.80GHz SMP (2 processors), 1800.000 MHz (7196.09 bogomips)] | chipset[Intel Corporation 82946GZ/PL/GL Memory Controller Hub (rev 02)] | video[Intel Corporation 82946GZ/GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) at 1800x1440 (32 bits)] | opengl[Mesa DRI Intel(R) 946GZ 4.1.3
[21:50] <icangoogleit> 002 x86/MMX/SSE2 powered by Tungsten Graphics, Inc with driver 1.4 Mesa 7.0.1] | xchat[Version: 2.8.4] | [sysinfo-dg 1.1-DocTrax_1.46]
[21:50] <the_mug> someone needs to chmod those 11/16/2007 files
[21:50] <erUSUL> the_mug: someone on #ubuntu-es is
[21:50] <icangoogleit> 2.6.22-14
[21:50] <nickrud> erUSUL: I've wondered about that factoid, doesn't a modprobe update overwrite that, or miss out on a needed change if it's been edited?
[21:50] <fever84> hey
[21:51] <nickrud> friedrich: is it listed in /etc/modules ?
[21:51] <fever84> how do u multiply 2 variables ?
[21:51] <wedgehoe> is there a way to monitor pings?
[21:51] <erUSUL> nickrud: maybe you are right i do not use blaclist myself...
[21:51] <friedrich> nickrud, no
[21:51] <Henkie> fever84, ?
[21:51] <Henkie> bc can do it :)
[21:51] <Henkie> or bash
[21:51] <Henkie> echo $((2 * 2 ))
[21:51] <erUSUL> icangoogleit: please do not spam the channel like that ;)
[21:52] <friedrich> nickrud, it's an skge network driver which I want to replace with marvell's one
[21:52] <fever84> i am learning shell scripting in linux and i am trying to multiply X and y
[21:52] <Henkie> fever84, bash?
[21:52] <erUSUL> jsschmid1: 2.6.22
[21:52] <nickrud> friedrich: that's worked for me, for example I added blacklist-bcm43xx to that dir, with blacklist bcm43xx as the only line in it, Worked For Me™
[21:52] <fever84> yea bash
[21:52] <icangoogleit> erUSUL two lines isnt spam
[21:52] <Henkie> fever84, echo $((2 * 2))
[21:52] <Henkie> there you go
[21:52] <friedrich> but it still load together with new sk98lin despite being blacklisted in modprobe.conf
[21:52] <jsschmid1> erUSUL:  thanks!
[21:53] <icangoogleit> and fyi lines are defined by <enter> or [pagebreak]
[21:53] <fever84> thanks henkie
[21:53] <erUSUL> icangoogleit: 7 lines on my screen
[21:53] <Henkie> np
[21:53] <icangoogleit> 4+ lines == spam
[21:53] <Henkie> "expr" also does it
[21:53] <icangoogleit> erUSUL thats not how many lines it is. thats how many lines to display it
[21:53] <icangoogleit> notice
[21:53] <icangoogleit> that
[21:53] <icangoogleit> each time i push enter
[21:53] <icangoogleit> you see my name?
[21:53] <icangoogleit> those are "lines" that we define the spam by.
[21:53] <nickrud> icangoogleit: hair picker ;P
[21:53]  * erUSUL gives up
[21:53] <icangoogleit> nickrud no thats ter rules
[21:54]  * icangoogleit pats erUSUL 
[21:54] <DaveRM> is anyone having problems with google earth servers>>
[21:54] <ruz322> Ubuntu sucks you nerds
[21:54] <DrCortex> 0000001e (D) C:\mirc\mirc.exe
[21:54] <DrCortex>         00000020    0
[21:54] <DrCortex>         0000001f    0 <==
[21:54] <DrCortex> 0000000a
[21:54] <DrCortex>         0000000c    0
[21:54]  * Dr_Willis feels the love.
[21:54] <DrCortex>         0000000b    0
[21:54] <buttercups> !offtopic | icangoogleit
[21:54] <ubotu> icangoogleit: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:54] <DrCortex> is that somehting bad?
[21:54] <nickrud> !enter | icangoogleit (you earned that one)
[21:54] <ubotu> icangoogleit (you earned that one): Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:54] <icangoogleit> ruz322 most people who say it sux dont know how to configure it.
[21:54] <erUSUL> !paste | DrCortex
[21:54] <Intelligitimate> I love Ubuntu.
[21:54] <ubotu> DrCortex: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:54] <icangoogleit> buttercups actually i'm on topic giving guidelines for the channel
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> DrCortex theres no need to paste 'windows app crashed under wine' error messages. :)
[21:55] <DrCortex> it's 6 lines im not wasting my time with pastebinm
[21:55] <icangoogleit> nickrud had the correct one, though i was making a point
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> DrCortex I suggest you dont use mirc and wine. :)
[21:55] <icangoogleit> DrCortex as per earlier guidlines, 4+ is considered spam
[21:55] <icangoogleit> !flood
[21:55] <fever84> henkie can i pm you ?
[21:55] <DrCortex> well xchat can;t use kool scripts
[21:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> But i do know a lot of people are running mirc and wine.
[21:55] <noob69> ? if i have a wireless router and my server ip is 192.168.1.3 can computer outside (e.g. internet) can connect to my server
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> xchat has more powerfull scripting then mirc.. but it does take more to learn how to script it.
[21:55] <icangoogleit> Dr_Willis yeah it can be done but with a lot of channels its not very nice. how many networks/ channels do you do?
[21:55] <Henkie> fever84, sure
[21:55] <icangoogleit> you might want to check out konversation instead
[21:56] <icangoogleit> it does do tileing
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> icangoogleit I use Xchat under windows and linux normally. :)
[21:56] <bic> xchat
[21:56] <bic> mmm
[21:56] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: on a 1000 user channel 6 lines is way too much. i do not have time to waste on your probs either :)
[21:56] <Kaur> Hi! I remember that i messed with a file to disable the sytem loging, Now as you can probably understand /var/log/messages contains almost no information? Which could be the file I messed with? If i am correct, there was only 1 line in it.
[21:56] <icangoogleit> noob69 sure it can, you need to open / forward a port
[21:56] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: sorry not for you
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> erUSUL  :)
[21:56] <icangoogleit> Dr_Willis as do i sir
[21:56] <chazco> Hi... is there a version of ffmpeg available with MP3 (encoding as an output, lame iirc) available on any of the feeds?
[21:56] <erUSUL> DrCortex: on a 1000 user channel 6 lines is way too much. i do not have time to waste on your probs either :)
[21:56] <chazco> !ffmpeg
[21:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> icangoogleit been testing out 'jircii' lately however. :)
[21:56]  * nickrud feels the love as well
[21:57] <DrCortex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44811/ ya wtf is this about
[21:57] <ubernewhacks> How hard is triple booting ubuntu 7.10, vista x64, and windows xp x32
[21:57] <DrCortex> this stuff keeps coming up in bash
[21:57] <DrCortex> by itself
[21:57] <icangoogleit> Dr_Willis o?
[21:57] <icangoogleit> ubernewhacks very easy
[21:57] <eido> does anyone know of a good GUI FTP program...I was using FlashFXP on windows
[21:58] <icangoogleit> eido gftp / filezilla
[21:58] <DrCortex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44811/ ya wtf is this about
[21:58] <wiseleo> I wonder if I am the only one who keeps getting hared crashes in VM on gutsy...
[21:58] <DrCortex> this stuff keeps coming up in bash
[21:58] <DrCortex> by itself
[21:58] <nickrud> eido: gftp or fireftp in firefox work well, gftp supports many protocols
[21:58] <icangoogleit> DrCortex try #winehq
[21:58] <icangoogleit> sounds like you might be missing a few things
[21:58] <friedrich> nickrud, I did exactly as you said... Both are loaded, skge is used inetead of sk98lin. I need to reload it manually. May be precompiled drivers should be disabled in other way?
[21:58] <icangoogleit> and try their website as to instructions - there might be some special stuff
[21:58] <chazco> eido: The native file manager in Ubuntu can do FTP (Places -> connect to server) or I quite like gFtp
[21:58] <icangoogleit> and you might not be able to have platinum level install on latest mirc
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> DrCortex the wine sites have some info onusing it and mirc ---> http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/10/mirc-63-on-linux-with-wine.html
[21:58] <erUSUL> eido: filezilla
[21:59] <nickrud> friedrich: if there's another way, I'm not aware of it. I'm not familiar with those modules, either
[21:59] <wiseleo> eido - filezilla should be available perhaps?
[21:59] <Deathchant> Guys, I have a question about printing. It seems that the bottom of the page is cut.
[21:59] <icangoogleit> friedrich what cha trying to do
[21:59] <rdpb> hi to all
[21:59] <Violet> hi
[21:59] <rdpb> did someone have a kubuntu install in raid 0 sata disks? or to stop trying..?
[21:59] <friedrich> icangoogleit, I need to disable kernel driver during the boot. Blacklist isn't working
[22:00] <eido> thank you I am downloading gftp.
[22:00] <erUSUL> !raid | rdpb
[22:00] <ubotu> rdpb: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[22:00] <erUSUL> !hi | Vinc1
[22:00] <ubotu> Vinc1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[22:00] <friedrich> And I really don't want to recompile the kernel
[22:00] <icangoogleit> friedrich what driver
[22:00] <friedrich> icangoogleit, skge
[22:00] <nexact> Hello all, how can I read .hlp files ?
[22:01] <friedrich> icangoogleit, I have sk98lin instead
[22:01] <HPd2300> Guys, I have a question about printing. It seems that the bottom of the page is cut.
[22:01] <ubernewhacks> so what is the name of the program or method for vista xp ubuntu
[22:01] <icangoogleit> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=disable+skge+kernel+driver+gutsy&btnG=Google+Search
[22:01]  * nickrud remembers deleting kernel modules to prevent their use back in his slash and burn days
[22:01] <wiseleo> nexact - linux doesn't use them... why?
[22:01] <rdpb> ubotu i have seen it but im wondering if someone can manage to do it
[22:01] <cellofellow> nickrud: why not blacklist?
[22:01] <kazol2> Should I use bcm43xx-fwcutter for a Broadcom chipset BCM4306 wifi card (Belkin) or is there a better driver?
[22:01] <rdpb> i suppose that im not very good on this i cant make it working
[22:02] <friedrich> rdpb, it really depends if it's hardware or software raid. Some of them aren't supported. You should use linux software raid instead
[22:02] <nexact> wiseleo: I have a file from windows .. I need to read it
[22:02] <eido> thanks gftp looks to be exactly what I need in terms of layout
[22:02] <nickrud> cellofellow: because blacklist didn't exist then
[22:02] <cafuego> kazol2: the cutter should work. if not, i have a package that does.
[22:02] <cellofellow> Ok, how do I create an ad-hoc wireless network. I can't find anything about it in the forums. Just want(ed) to use the Avahi IP addresses and Samba networking.
[22:02] <jordan> Hello, I have a question about general hardware (pertaining to an ubuntu machine).  Should I ask here?
[22:02] <stroyan> HPd2300: Perhaps you are using A4 formatting with 8.5"x11" paper.  With that paper you should use "letter" format.
[22:02] <cellofellow> nickrud: gotcha
[22:02] <friedrich> nickrud, I can't delete it, it's in kernel
[22:02] <cafuego> kazol2: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/gutsy-cafuego/bcm43xx/
[22:02] <ubernewhacks> so what is the name of the program or method for vista xp ubuntu
[22:02] <friedrich> If I could I haven't asked you :)
[22:03] <nickrud> friedrich: in the kernel, or a module that's loaded by the kernel?
[22:03] <Henkie> rdpb, try using dodmraid on the kernel boot promtp
[22:03] <kazol2> cafuego: I need something that will support WPA-I installed the same card on another system a while ago, I was expecting an updated version.
[22:03] <cafuego> ubernewhacks: dual booting
[22:03] <friedrich> nickrud in the kernel
[22:03] <nickrud> friedrich: blacklist only works on modules, not stuff compiled into the kernel
[22:03] <cafuego> kazol2: Yep, it does that just fine.
[22:03] <rdpb> i have 2 sata disks on raid 0 via bios and i want to have in the same raid disk vista and kubuntu
[22:03] <Henkie> not sure if you want to install on it, but it's great to read from it
[22:03] <ubernewhacks> and how would would I go about that?
[22:03] <rdpb> for now i have manage to do it only with fedora 8
[22:03] <Whisperkiller> using nano, how do i save changes to a config file im working on>?
[22:04] <rdpb> with very easy installation but i dont like to have fedora i want the kubuntu
[22:04] <friedrich> nickrud, I can unload it with rmmod. Is it possible for kernel drivers?
[22:04] <cellofellow> Whisperkiller: CTRL+o CTRL+x to exit
[22:04] <nickrud> friedrich: ok, that
[22:04] <Henkie> rdpb, dont install on it, unless it's really hw raid
[22:04] <cellofellow> Whisperkiller: ^ = ctrl, on the bottom of nano.
[22:04] <nickrud> is a module, do locate skge.ko , that's the file that gets loaded into the kernel
[22:04] <kazol2> cafuego: So I should just open the .deb file and it should automatically install?
[22:04] <Whisperkiller> it says i dont have permission
[22:04] <friedrich> nickrud, there is no skge.ko
[22:05] <Whisperkiller> should i have opened with sudo?
[22:05] <cellofellow> Whisperkiller: did you use sudo?
[22:05] <cafuego> kazol2: Double-click it it it should take care of itself.
[22:05] <Whisperkiller> no lol
[22:05] <cellofellow> Whisperkiller: try sudoedit thefile
[22:05] <violet> :)
[22:05] <Triplee23> what command can I run to see all services/daemons that are running?
[22:05] <nickrud> friedrich: it's /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/net/skge.ko on my machine.
[22:05] <rdpb> im comfuse about this hw raid or sf raid
[22:05] <cellofellow> Whisperkiller: uses a temp file to run nano as user, then copies the temp file to the edited file
[22:05] <Henkie> Triplee23, ps axu
[22:05] <Dethlok> how do i configure my firewall?  i think its blocking me from uploading images to myspace
[22:05] <kazol2> Whisperkiller: Remember, whenever you run a cmd that is potentially damaging to the system, always include "sudo."
[22:05] <erUSUL> Triplee23: ps ax | less
[22:05] <HPd2300> Stroyan OK thanks, I'll try that
[22:05] <erUSUL> Triplee23: htop
[22:05] <javaJake> Dethlok, which firewall? The one on your computer?
[22:06] <erUSUL> !firewall | Dethlok
[22:06] <ubotu> Dethlok: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[22:06] <rdpb> i have a motherboard that can do raid 0,5,10 with a menu from bios. is this hd or sf?
[22:06] <Whisperkiller> yes im a bit rusty....been in winblows hell for quite some time and recently moved back to linux
[22:06] <erUSUL> Dethlok: no firewall is enabled by default in ubuntu
[22:06] <friedrich> nickrud, I use xen kernel
[22:06] <Dethlok> oh ok i wasnt sure
[22:06] <nikosapi> hello, I'm trying to download today's security updates and I encountered this error: E: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbfs_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb: 403 Forbidden
[22:06] <nickrud> friedrich: ah, I have no experience with xen kernels, so I think I'll just have to shut up. Sorry
[22:06] <erUSUL> rdpb: sf it is known as fake raid
[22:06] <Henkie> rdpb, hmm, really depends on the make, normally the sw raid is capable of raid 0 or raid 1
[22:07] <Triplee23> Thanx, how do I enable a service starting during boot?
[22:07] <friedrich> Hmm
[22:07] <nickrud> nikosapi: see the topic
[22:07] <friedrich> Thanks :)
[22:07] <Henkie> not sure if software raid from bios can also engage in raid5
[22:07] <cafuego> nikosapi: Yeah, so has everyone else. it'll get fixed eventually, I'm sure.
[22:07] <cellofellow> any knowledge of "ad hoc" wireless networks here?
[22:07] <stroyan> Triplee23: If you are into using a GUI, there is also the "system->administration->services" menu that runs services-admin.
[22:07] <nikosapi> nickrud: heh, damn irssi putting the topic at the top of the nick list :P
[22:08] <nikosapi> thanks btw
[22:08] <rdpb> and again if it is hd raid why cant install kubuntu?
[22:08] <nickrud> nikosapi: ah, you terminal junkies, why isn't the gui good enough for everyone?
[22:08] <rdpb> i try so far 8 times
[22:08] <riotkittie> the mind. it boggles.
[22:08] <friedrich> Henkie, rdpb, new nforces and ICH8R can do Raid5
[22:08] <Intangir> got a question: on windows when find some files to play on winamp, and then open winamp, i can click and drag the files from explorer (without explorer poping up on top) to the winamp window(which is still ontop of explorer) so i  can drag and drop files into winamp real easuy
[22:08] <friedrich> but it;s software
[22:08] <Triplee23> stroyan: I want to run netatalk during startup but it is not visible i services-admin (GUI)
[22:08] <rdpb> ICH8R i have
[22:08] <erUSUL> rdpb: for fake raid you need to enable the dmraid module/driver
[22:08] <cafuego> Henkie: Eww.
[22:09] <erUSUL> !dmraid
[22:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmraid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:09] <Xklark> can anyone help? I can't install samba through apt-get - the package is getting a 404 error
[22:09] <Intangir> ALSO i can click and drag it to the taskbar dock, till winamp ppops up, then drag it to winamp
[22:09] <Henkie> rdpb, linux normally bypasses the bios
[22:09] <Intangir> how can i do that on gnome/nautilus
[22:09] <cafuego> Bios raid sucks, but bios raid5 would be - ewww.
[22:09] <nikosapi> nickrud: because I can ssh into a screen session from school/work and chat :)
[22:09] <Xklark> Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main samba 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 403 Forbidden
[22:09] <Henkie> friedrich, ah tnx, didnt know that
[22:09] <friedrich> rdpb, you can try
[22:09] <cafuego> Xlark: Yeah, so has everyone else. it'll get fixed eventually, I'm sure.
[22:09] <jordan> Hello - I have a machine running an ubuntu / mythtv media center, and I wanted to put my older Ati x850xt in there.  I did so, and plugged my HDTV in (HDMI - DVI cable).  Now the TV doesnt show any picture, just flashes of text on bootup (POST, not UBUNTU).  The VGA port works fine, however.  What can I do/try?
[22:09] <nickrud> nikosapi: oh, you even ssh, you junkie ;)
[22:09] <friedrich> If you don't worry to lose your data
[22:10] <cafuego> If you can at all manage, do not use bios raid. Linux sw raid is a far better idea.
[22:10] <Xklark> cafuego: how can i set it up without apt-get?
[22:10] <Xklark> do i have to compile the source myself?
[22:10] <erUSUL> rdpb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto
[22:10] <riotkittie> egads.
[22:10] <w0rm> why is that i have to run compiz thru command line for it to work? shouldn;t it load automatically at startup?
[22:10] <cafuego> Xklark: You could find a non-broken mirror I suppose.
[22:10] <SMFS_Usagi> can someone please help with a nvidia graphics problem ?
[22:10] <kode> Intangir:  : you can do that exactly as in windows, it's standad
[22:10] <kode> *standard
[22:10] <Xklark> ill try
[22:10] <Xklark> cafuego: thanks
[22:10] <friedrich> cafuego, best raid is raid which is presented for OS as a large drive
[22:10] <Jakes> Hi - Anyone aware of a decent PPTP VPN Client GUI for 7.10? Is pptpconfig the only reaon option?
[22:11] <friedrich> And doing all tasks himself
[22:11] <nickrud> Xklark: you gan get it from mirrors.kernel.org, but you have to fix the dependency errors by hand
[22:11] <Xklark> k
[22:11] <TD-Linux> jordan, sounds like you have the wrong display set up
[22:11] <w0rm> why is that i have to run compiz thru command line for it to work? shouldn't it load automatically at startup?
[22:11] <rdpb> i hv read it all of this
[22:11] <cafuego> friedrich: No, the best raid is *expensive* hardware raid with a large battery backed cache. bios raid is worse than sw raid in pretty much all cases.
[22:11] <TD-Linux> configure the driver to use the other port as primary
[22:11] <TD-Linux> google how to do that
[22:11] <jordan> TD-Linux I understand this and tried to fix it, but it will not even show a POST screen on the television, my 7900 GS did show the post screen
[22:11] <deadlylife> How can I make Emerald do a gaussian blur on transparent decorations?
[22:12] <dooglus> does anyone know how I can get a logitech pro 9000 webcam working in gutsy?
[22:12] <jordan> TD-Linux it seems as though the TV is getting signal, but it is merely a black screen being displayed
[22:12] <dooglus> !webcam doesn't help
[22:12] <TD-Linux> wiggle the mouse?
[22:12] <TD-Linux> besides that
[22:12] <dooglus> ubotu: I know you're not intelligent
[22:12] <Henkie> wiggle it good!
[22:12] <us-robotics> where to join free chat channel
[22:12] <Intangir> kode: oops, ya it seems dragging and waiting over the taskbar window DOES work now, i dont recall it working before..
[22:12] <rdpb> so i think that i cant have me kubuntu on my machine
[22:12] <dooglus> us-robotics: this one's free
[22:12] <jordan> TD-Linux this is on boot up, wiggling does not work
[22:13] <TD-Linux> hmmmm
[22:13] <w0rm> why is that i have to run compiz thru command line for it to work? shouldn't it load automatically at startup?
[22:13] <dooglus> !offtopic
[22:13] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:13] <TD-Linux> do any of the ports output video?
[22:13] <rdpb> to bad that ubuntu not have a installer that can manage this like gentoo and fedora
[22:13] <jordan> TD-Linux yes the VGA port works to a separate monitor
[22:13] <deadlylife> What is the Compiz channel?
[22:13] <deadlylife> ?
[22:13] <cafuego> friedrich: Thing is, with bios raid, you're depending on an underpowered controller running proprietary software (the bios raid controller) for your data security.
[22:13] <dooglus> !compiz
[22:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[22:13] <TD-Linux> yeah ubuntu's installer is still lacking
[22:13] <deadlylife> join #compiz-fusion
[22:13] <TD-Linux> in comparision to even fc3, for example
[22:13] <jordan> TD-Linux but the DVI port going to TV does not work.. I should try the DVI to a computer mon brb
[22:13] <deadlylife> oops
[22:13] <TD-Linux> err
[22:13] <stroyan> Triplee23: I have never experimented with netatalk.  I see that the package includes a /etc/init.d/netatalk script that should be configured to start and stop the service.
[22:14] <TD-Linux> someone should change !compiz
[22:14] <Beryllium> Has anyone here been having problems with the Nautilus process going haywire on multiuser systems, using 100% of the CPU?
[22:14] <TD-Linux> nobody uses XGL anymore
[22:14] <SMFS_Usagi> can anyone please help with a nvidia graphics card problem ?
[22:14] <Xklark> nickrud: I can't find the samba package on that mirror site you gave me - what would it be under?
[22:14] <schokomuffin> good morning boys and girls
[22:14] <cafuego> friedrich: Linux md raid (swraid) is handled in-kernel, has no such bottleneck and is likely to be 1) far faster and 2) can be moved to any other machine without needing an identical bios raid chip.
[22:14] <rdpb> so i have to decite if i will be with kubuntu and windows without raid or only with windows and raid
[22:15] <friedrich> cafuego, If I have server I'd prefer hardware solution.
[22:15] <nickrud> Xklark: a sec
[22:15] <schokomuffin> join #wikipedia-de
[22:15] <cafuego> friedrich: Sure, but bios raid != hardware :-)
[22:15] <friedrich> Which will rebuild automatically
[22:15] <TD-Linux> rdpb, did you try the alternate installer?
[22:15] <xivanari> heya folks
[22:15] <jimjam> How can I add NWN to the Games menu? Or rather, how can I add two commands to a launcher?
[22:15] <kazol2> cafuego: When I installed the driver, the system worked erratically and I got an error msg at startup saying it can't start the settings daemon for the GUI.
[22:16] <DigitalNinja> does gutsy gibbon server have a LAMP option?
[22:16] <cafuego> I'd prefere a $4000 raid card too, but with that kind of cost I wouldn't be abl to afford any disks to plug into it <heh>
[22:16] <friedrich> cafuego, ok, but hardware raid = bios raid :-P
[22:16] <xivanari> i am having a pretty bad problem with my ubuntu
[22:16] <xivanari> all the titlebar fonts are ridiculous
[22:16] <xivanari> huge
[22:16] <rdpb> TD-Linux: not i havnt try the alternate
[22:16] <nsteeves> is anyone else getting "403 forbidden" errors when trying to update http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb ?
[22:16] <Xklark> nsteeves: yes
[22:16] <cafuego> friedrich: No, hardware raid = raid with a *dedicated* *hardware* controller.
[22:16] <Xklark> i just asked about that
[22:16] <Flummoxed`> yes, nsteeves
[22:16] <cafuego> nsteeves: Yeah, so has everyone else. it'll get fixed eventually, I'm sure.
[22:16] <friedrich> cafuego, with it's own BIOS? :)
[22:17] <nickrud> it's there, under the name samba. you would change your /etc/apt/sources.list to use mirrors.kernel.com rather than archives.ubuntu.com
[22:17] <cafuego> friedrich: Yup, which does the initialisation, NOT all processing.
[22:17] <friedrich> and, possibly, management console
[22:17] <kazol2> cafuego: ?
[22:17] <rdpb> my mb is msi p965 platinum
[22:17] <rdpb> is this a fakeraid ?
[22:17] <Core2QUAD> anyone know how to use mencoder??
[22:17] <friedrich> rdpb, sure
[22:17] <nickrud> Xklark: s/kernel.com/kernel.org/
[22:17] <TD-Linux> Core2QUAD, google
[22:17] <cafuego> friedrich:   http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html#fakeraid is a good read in that regard.
[22:17] <TD-Linux> it's kind of difficult
[22:17] <nsteeves> glad to hear it's not just my ISP doing something weird.  (service has been spotty this week)
[22:17] <TD-Linux> not too bad once you figure it out
[22:17] <Henkie> rdpb, yes  :)
[22:17] <Triplee23> How can I see if samba is running or not?
[22:17] <Xklark> nickrud: thanks
[22:17] <tenex> ugh, fakeraid/pseudoraid is evil
[22:17] <cafuego> kazol2: The bcm43xx-firmware made you *X* break?
[22:17] <Core2QUAD> i have the commands i cant figure out all the stuff about frame rates and what not
[22:18] <jimjam> Triplee23: You could check the process list.
[22:18] <Core2QUAD> all i want to do is make an avi into an mpeg
[22:18] <rdpb> why is fakeraid
[22:18] <nickrud> Xklark: same with security.ubuntu.com, that's mirrors.kernel.org as well
[22:18] <xivanari> heya does anyone know how to figure out how to fix the ginormous fonts problem?
[22:18] <deadlylife> !emerald
[22:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:18] <rdpb> i dont understand the difference
[22:18] <tenex> Core2QUAD: outstanding, then google will work well for you
[22:18] <deadlylife> !Emerald
[22:18] <nsteeves> nickrud: kernel.org tends to be really fast.  thanks for the tip, I didn't know that there was a kernel.org mirror
[22:18] <kazol2> cafuego: It did not break X, but it made the keyboard unresponsive and hanged when the system turned off. When it booted it could not load GUI settings for my profile but still did show GUI (though it lacked effects).
[22:18] <TD-Linux> xivanari, you can change the dpi of your monitor
[22:18] <jimjam> Triplee23: System > Administration > System Monitor. Then the Processes tab
[22:18] <cafuego> rdpb: fakeraid = raid via closed source software in raid bios.
[22:19] <xivanari> what do i change it to TD-Linux
[22:19] <Henkie> rdpb, real raid is done in hardware with expensive hardware
[22:19] <nickrud> nsteeves: yw (I knew I should have kept it to myself :)
[22:19] <xivanari> and how do i change it
[22:19] <cafuego> kazol2: Do you have ndiswrapper enabled or something?
[22:19] <TD-Linux> xivanari, lower it
[22:19] <`m0> hello can we install tcl in the system?
[22:19] <xivanari> i am a major linux newb
[22:19] <TD-Linux> windows always assumes 72 dpi
[22:19] <Core2QUAD> i have been on google for an our trying to figure it out
[22:19] <friedrich> nickrud, something tells me that new driver presented as both skge and sk98lin, if it's possible
[22:19] <rdpb> hw = controller card with its own cpu about raid on  it?
[22:19] <TD-Linux> I dunno where the config for that is :(
[22:19] <jsschmid1> how do I get the KERNEL MAKEFILE ... while trying to make I get the error "Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source/"
[22:19] <Triplee23> jimjam: I don't have the GUI
[22:19] <xivanari> so it should be 72dpi?
[22:19] <NatureTM> hey, I'm on a core 2 processor trying to decide which distro (32/64) to install.  I figured 64 would be correct, but looking at the download page i'm not so sure anymore.  which is the one for me?
[22:19] <kazol2> cafuego: I just installed the x64 version of Ubuntu.
[22:19] <cafuego> rdpb: Yes.
[22:19] <TD-Linux> or you can just change the font sizes
[22:19] <bruenig> NatureTM, pick 32
[22:19] <nickrud> friedrich: no clue, but it's not impossible I guess
[22:19] <Henkie> rdpb, yes, and onboard ram
[22:20] <bruenig> you won't regret it
[22:20] <TD-Linux> System -> Preferences -> Fonts maybe?
[22:20] <rdpb> and can i do something to install without to be a linux guru?
[22:20] <Arko> hi
[22:20] <xivanari> no its not there
[22:20] <bruenig> !english | rpereira
[22:20] <nsteeves> nickrud: ;-)
[22:20] <ubotu> rpereira: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[22:20] <bruenig> !hi | Arko
[22:20] <ubotu> Arko: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[22:20] <TD-Linux> that's random guessing
[22:20] <xivanari> i think its under the appearance that the fonts is
[22:20] <friedrich> NatureTM, if you don't want to work with Xen you should use 64-bit version
[22:20] <TD-Linux> I don't have ubuntu running atm
[22:20] <Arko> After upgrade, no sound
[22:20] <cafuego> kazol2: Hmmm. I've not ever tested a 4306 on amd64, only on i386 and powerpc. I don't know how that behaves.
[22:20] <xivanari> ahh okay
[22:20] <jimjam> Triplee23: Then try the "top" command
[22:20] <Arko> any help?
[22:20] <bruenig> !sound | Arko
[22:20] <ubotu> Arko: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:20] <Beryllium> !nautilus
[22:20] <rdpb> i dont want to give up and stay only in windows :(
[22:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:20] <kazol2> cafuego: What should I install then?
[22:20] <TD-Linux> xivanari, just poke around
[22:20] <cafuego> kazol2: But if it stops behaving after instalkling that firmware, I suippose best bet is to remove it.
[22:20] <dooglus> does anyone know how I can get a logitech pro 9000 webcam working in gutsy?
[22:20] <Henkie> rdpb, it will take some reading, and understanding
[22:20] <TD-Linux> dpi might be in display settings
[22:21] <xivanari> TD-Linux:  i have pmed you
[22:21] <xivanari> did you get it?
[22:21] <TD-Linux> no
[22:21] <xivanari> damnit
[22:21] <kazol2> cafuego: What driver should I install? It doesn't have an internet connection at all.
[22:21] <cafuego> kazol2: Well, you *somehow* need firmware to work with that chip.
[22:21] <xivanari> how do i do that register thing on here?
[22:21] <TD-Linux> you have to be registered on Freenode I think
[22:21] <Henkie> rdpb, those motherboards are kinda faking it
[22:21] <kazol2> cafuego: Are there any other drivers?
[22:21] <rpereira> ubotu && bruenig: sorry. Wrong tab.
[22:21] <Henkie> all in the drivers
[22:21] <rpereira> :-)
[22:21] <NatureTM> so 64 distro should work fine, asside from a few compatability issues with software?
[22:21] <Arko> there is no "volume control" to double click
[22:21] <TD-Linux> /msg NickServ HELP
[22:21] <nickrud> dooglus: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/mandriva-30/logitech-quickcam-pro-9000-uvc-driver-596901/ talks sensibly about that, since it's kernel it shouldn't matter that they're on mandriva
[22:21] <bruenig> rpereira, I meant that for rdpb actually so my fault
[22:22] <xivanari> okay
[22:22] <xivanari> i just changed the dpi
[22:22] <cafuego> rdpb: if you have windows in "raid" already, then using fakeraid in Linux is your only option. It's not ideal, but it *WILL* work.
[22:22] <xivanari> it changes the size of all of my fonts
[22:22] <schmick> anyone know anything about linux based cell phones?
[22:22] <rdpb> yestarday i try to do it and i find a good guide on this article but when i came to the part tha mount /target and do chroot i stoped because i couldnt do cp in the /target
[22:22] <jimjam> Anyone know how I can add NWN to the Games menu? As in, how can I add two commands to a launcher?
[22:22] <xivanari> but not the size of the titlebar ones.
[22:22] <xivanari> they are still the exact same ridiculous hugeness
[22:22] <xivanari> any ideas anyone?
[22:22] <rdpb> sorry for my bad english
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> jimjam make a script that runs the commands - then add a launcher for that script
[22:23] <bruenig> jimjam, /usr/share/applications, write a .desktop drop in there
[22:23] <Henkie> rdpb, i am not sure about ubuntu but i dont think there is a easy
[22:23] <jimjam> Dr_Willis> I'd hoped it wouldn't have to come to that.
[22:23] <Henkie> +way
[22:23] <nickrud> xivanari: system->prefs->appearance ->fonts tab, window title font doesn't affect it/
[22:23] <KOJV> Can I get Pidgin for Ubuntu with apt-get?
[22:23] <rdpb> i see the guide from http;//wiki.eyermonkey.com/   a good guide
[22:23] <friedrich> NatureTM, usually you will not see difference
[22:23] <nickrud> ? that is
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> jimjam in the time it took ya to reply. You proberly could of done it. :)
9/11 was an inside job!</rant>
[22:24] <rdpb> Henkie: you mean with other distribution?
[22:24] <Fyda> Hey, something's wrong with the nautilus-share package in the repos: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb 403 Forbidden
[22:24] <rdpb> i did a installation with fedora 8 and suse 10.3 and workinig
[22:24] <kazol2> cafuego: Are there alternate drivers? What should I do?
[22:24] <rdpb> full auto from installer
[22:24] <nickrud> Fyda: see the topic
[22:24] <friedrich> Fyda, I see the same
[22:24] <Fyda> nickrud: Gah, sorry
[22:24] <cafuego> kazol2: bcm43xx and ndiswrapper or driverloader are your only options afaik.
[22:24] <friedrich> They will fix it
[22:25] <jimjam> Dr_Willis: Oh, irony
[22:25] <Henkie> rdpb, dont know about them, but i would recommend againt using the motherboard-raid
[22:25] <friedrich> Have somebody seen today's kernel game?
[22:25] <cafuego> kazol2: driverloader costs actual money, ndiswrapper pmay or may not work on amd64.
[22:25] <nickrud> Fyda: np, so many problems, such a short topic, why would you expect it there ;)
[22:25] <friedrich> They had 7 releases during two hours
[22:25] <jsschmid1> how do I get the KERNEL MAKEFILE ... while trying to make I get the error "Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source/"
[22:25] <nickrud> lol, and this is a *stable* tree
[22:25] <zetheroo> I am trying to install the Ubuntu updates... but I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44814/
[22:26] <cafuego> So we avoid .23 then? :-)
[22:26] <rdpb> Henkie: you mean do take out the raid?
[22:26] <rdpb> to take out the raid?
[22:26] <patrickneville> hey whats a good anti-virus software for ubuntu, i have some windows one that keeps sending messages via pidgin to people, with windows commands haha
[22:26] <zetheroo> anyone?
[22:26] <friedrich> They said there are too many patches of different groups
[22:26] <jimjam> bruenig: Can I add more than one exec to a .desktop file?
[22:26] <kazol2> cafuego: I'll look for driverloader on ThePirateBay or something.
[22:26] <tenex> patrickneville: you aren't vulnerable to those viruses, anyway
[22:26] <bruenig> jimjam, nope
[22:26] <us-robotics> where to join free chat channel
[22:26] <Henkie> rdpb, yes, at least from your bios's perspective, and using the sw-raid from linux itself
[22:26] <us-robotics> what channel for channel i
[22:26] <friedrich> zaharazod, topic
[22:27] <weirdbro> I'm getting a download error on the latest security update
[22:27] <friedrich> sorry. zetheroo
[22:27] <Henkie> but that's just my opinion
[22:27] <cafuego> kazol2: Thank you for not warezing on an official support channel.
[22:27] <aguitel> patrickneville: is neccesary at less 4 antivirus in ubuntu
[22:27] <patrickneville> tenex: i know this, but i dont like pidgin sending out these texts
[22:27] <maxb> weirdbro: see /topic
[22:27] <bruenig> jimjam, the Exec is what runs when you click on it in the menu, so yeah you can see where that would be practically impossible
[22:27] <Ax3> hey guys, im using pidgin, and the background is black, and everyone typing are using black color fonts, so i can't see anything... how do i adjust the irc colors?
[22:27] <zetheroo> friedrich: thanks... ha
[22:27] <us-robotics> where to join free chat channel
[22:27] <us-robotics> where to join free chat channel
[22:27] <us-robotics> where to join free chat channel
[22:27] <us-robotics> where to join free chat channel
[22:27] <bruenig> !ops | us-robotics
[22:27] <ubotu> us-robotics: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[22:27] <zetheroo> anyone?
[22:27] <ubernewhacks> In what order do i install the os's to get xp 32 vista 64 and ubuntu 7.10?
[22:27] <nickrud> us-robotics: this is free chat
[22:27] <friedrich> Ax3, may be you're goth? :)
[22:28] <rdpb> Henkie: and what about windows?
[22:28]  * nickrud thinks that might have been overkill
[22:28] <wiseleo> Well. I did it! Gforge runs on 7.10 now. Will write up the steps in the Wiki
[22:28] <jimjam> bruenig: I see.
[22:28] <Ax3> friedrich: i can see you typing because you said my name heh, can't see anyone else
[22:28] <Ax3> brb
[22:28] <tommax1083> how i can connect to ##java channel?
[22:28] <zetheroo> please help with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44814/
[22:28] <wiseleo> That only took some 40 hours of work... lol
[22:28] <nickrud> tommax1083:  type /join ##java
[22:28] <eido> sorry I don't see settings in gftp for ssl does it support it?
[22:29] <friedrich> zetheroo, topic-topic-topic
[22:29] <Henkie> rdpb, dont know enough about windows, but the raid is still done from software
[22:29] <Sonderblade> im getting 403 forbidden from security.ubuntu.com when running apt-get upgrade??
[22:29] <zetheroo> friedrich: huh?
[22:29] <maxb> Re the disabled samba security update - wouldn't it be better to remove it from Packages, so that it didn't break apt for getting other security updates?
[22:29] <maxb> Sonderblade: /topic
[22:29] <Triplee23> How do I prevent samba from starting during boot? Anyone?
[22:29] <friedrich> zetheroo, Sonderblade it's broken
[22:29] <Sonderblade> thanks
[22:30] <Pyrobyte> hello, i was wondering if there were any sort of service startup logs, and if so where to find them
[22:30] <Sonderblade> what is samba doing in ubuntu-desktop anyway?
[22:30] <rdpb> Henkie: i mean that if do linux raid sw then i cant have access from windows right?
[22:30] <zetheroo> friedrich: whats broken?
[22:30] <Ax3> restarted pigdin, problem solved i guess
[22:30] <Triplee23> I have the server version
[22:30] <Henkie> rdpb, sorry, yes  :)  (you cant access it)
[22:30] <nsteeves> ahhh. /topic is how one views the whole topic.  since switching it irssi years ago, I've always wondered, but never knew (and perhaps was lazy in not bothering to look it up or experiment)
[22:30] <Cyde> Anyone know what's up with this error message?
[22:30] <Cyde> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/libsmbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb  403 Forbidden
[22:31] <kazol2> cafuego: What to do....I'll install x32 then.
[22:31] <nickrud> Sonderblade: it's there for sharing (many use it) removing /etc/rc2.d/S20samba will disable startup
[22:31] <Sir_Sid> Cyde,  its a known bug
[22:31] <cafuego> kazol2: it's probably worth a try anyway, yes.
[22:31] <Sir_Sid> Cyde, Look at the topic of the channel
[22:31] <zetheroo> Cyde: I am getting the same nonsense
[22:31] <grimboy> Hmm, seems I can't have libumfpack4 and libsuitesparse installed because the both contain the files /usr/lib/libamd.so.1 and /usr/lib/libumfpack.a . Can anyone give me some sort of workaround?
[22:31] <Sonderblade> nickrud: for sharing my disk with windows users?
[22:31] <Cyde> Someone mess up file permissions I suppose?
[22:31] <Cyde> Glad to know I'm not the only one ..
[22:31] <Kl4m> Could anybody explain me why this script wouldn't run on startup if it's in /etc/rc5.d and 777? http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/777620
[22:31] <ubernewhacks> In what order do i install the os's to get xp 32 vista 64 and ubuntu 7.10?
[22:32] <Sir_Sid> Cyde,  no idea lol, but its a known bug and im sure it will be fixed soon
[22:32] <jsschmid1> how do I get the KERNEL MAKEFILE ... while trying to make I get the error "Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source/"
[22:32] <friedrich> Triplee23, update-rc.d samba remove
[22:32] <Kl4m> Xp, then Vista, then Ubuntu
[22:32] <nickrud> Sonderblade: for whatever, I use it for accessing shares at work, and sharing a bit
[22:32] <Cyde> Sir_Sid: My guess is file permissions are set wrong on the package on the server.
[22:32] <zetheroo> Cyde: nobody has touched my machine... but when I came this morning and wanted to perform the usual updates I got those same errors
[22:32] <rmaj> how to download a   http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=1234 something to hard drive (as a file to play offline)?
[22:32] <Triplee23> How do I know which runlevel I am in?
[22:33] <Cyde> zetheroo: No no no, I mean file permissions on the update server, not on your local computer.
[22:33] <Xklark> XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
[22:33] <Xklark> Location: chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/unknownContentType.xul
[22:33] <Xklark> Line Number 1, Column 7:
[22:33] <nsteeves> speaking of file permissions:  if mirrors.kernel.org rsyncs with archive.ubuntu.com, won't the over-restrictive permissions be preserved?
[22:33] <nickrud> zetheroo: it's a problem at their end, not yours. Read the topic
[22:33] <Xklark> why do i get that error when trying to downlaod something?
[22:33] <nsteeves> (in the mirror)
[22:33] <mneptok> !paste | Xklark
[22:33] <ubotu> Xklark: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[22:33] <Morrowyn> hi, i have a question, when i open /etc/fstab, i see this #/dev/hda1 UUID, doesnt the # mean that that line is commented out, yet the system mounts /dev/hda1 to / any idea why this is or do i need to configure the mounting of other harddisks somewhere else in ubuntu?
[22:33] <zetheroo> Cyde: yes, it would have to be on their end
[22:33] <ubernewhacks> kl4m: ok, after I install vista I'll come back and get someone to help me with learning how to get ubuntu also. that sound good?
[22:33] <zetheroo> nickrud: what topic?
[22:33] <friedrich> Morrowyn, it just uses uuids instead of names
[22:34] <nickrud> !uuid | Morrowyn (new naming scheme, for libata compatibility)
[22:34] <ubotu> Morrowyn (new naming scheme, for libata compatibility): To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[22:34] <kazol2> cafuego: So it depends on the OS, not the actual CPU architecture?
[22:34] <nsteeves> :-D  I guess over-restrictive permissions weren't preserved.
[22:34] <jsschmid1> how do I get the KERNEL MAKEFILE ... while trying to make I get the error "Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source/"
[22:34] <friedrich> somebody kill zetheroo
[22:34] <nickrud> zetheroo: the channel topic, if you're in xchat it's the window at the top; you can see it by typing /topic
[22:34] <Morrowyn> so, i just add my new harddisk to /etc/fstab, but using this new naming schema right?
[22:34] <Kl4m> ubernewhacks: you should keep some space for the other os(es) partitions(s) on every install
[22:34] <nickrud> Morrowyn: yes, and blkid will tell you the uuid
[22:35] <zetheroo> nickrud: oh ok.... I had to double click on it to see it
[22:35] <friedrich> Morrowyn, you can use old schema
[22:35] <Morrowyn> okies
[22:35] <rdpb> funny think happens ok
[22:35] <Kl4m> I think gparted can help with adding disks
[22:35] <box1> Hello
[22:35] <larson15> can anyone tell me what i am doing wrong when i try to use my ubuntu live cd?
[22:35] <Morrowyn> yeah, /dev/sda1 means more to me, than, UUID=and-lot-of-numbers
[22:35] <rdpb> in ubuntu i manage to start installation with dmraid support
[22:36] <rdpb> in kubuntu is more difficult
[22:36] <xivanari> heya ill ask again, does anyone here know a way i could fix the problem with the huge titlebar fonts?
[22:36] <nickrud> Morrowyn: be aware though, that the dev/<id> can change out from under you some day
[22:36] <friedrich> larson15, in what way do you use it?
[22:36] <box1> I'm trying to do basic updates on a fresh gutsy install however I get the error: "Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main libsmbclient 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1
[22:36] <box1>   403 Forbidden
[22:36] <box1> "  Will someone please guide me?
[22:36] <mneptok> box1: /topic
[22:36] <rdpb> i know that i will have problem next with grun installation :( in raid. if i can manage to go so far
[22:36] <Morrowyn> nickrud, good point there
[22:36] <erUSUL> box1: see the topic
[22:36] <larson15> i have a laptop and all i need is to run a slideshow but the computer does not have a hard drive
[22:36] <friedrich> rdpb, why not install ubuntu and kubuntu after that?
[22:37] <jsschmid1> how do I get the KERNEL MAKEFILE ... while trying to make I get the error "Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source/"
[22:37] <rdpb> friedrich: i didnt realize that it will more easy in ubuntu from kubuntu and i dont know the why
[22:37] <nickrud> jsschmid1: have you installed linux-source ?
[22:37] <rdpb> i dont like gnome and that why i didnt use it at all the ubuntu
[22:38] <box1> Ok, so I wanted to remove all samba related packages, and uninstalled ubuntu-desktop, however upon reinstall of ubuntu-desktop, it wants to install samba again, hence my problems.  Is this a system reinstall?
[22:38] <Triplee23> How do I know which runlevel is active? I don't have GUI?
 did you see my post
[22:38] <nickrud> Triplee23: runlevel in a terminal
[22:38] <eracc> http://www.channelinsider.com/print_article/Do+Your+Customers+Hate+Vista+Rip+and+Replace+with+a+Twist/218994.aspx
[22:38] <Arthanix> now what did ubuntu do.... can't update anything.... just because of the samba...
[22:38] <stroyan> Triplee23: netatalk should have been configured to run when you installed the ubuntu package.  You can check if it is failing on start by running "sudo /etc/init.d/netatalk restart" and studying the resulting output.
[22:38] <erUSUL> box1: just wait untill the issue is resolved... (maybe as a workaraund you can disable security updates tempor...)
[22:38] <friedrich> larson15, only about of livecd using way :)
[22:39] <stroyan> Triplee23: You can also try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure netatalk" to see if it reinstalls better than the first time.
[22:39] <box1> mneptok erUSUL: I removed ubuntu-desktop
[22:39] <larson15> i have a laptop and all i need is to run a slideshow but the computer does not have a hard drive
[22:39] <Xklark> i downloaded the packages from a mirror site, yet when i try to install it - it still keeps trying to download the other 2 files from ubuntu
[22:39] <nsteeves> oh my...
 i have a laptop and all i need is to run a slideshow but the computer does not have a hard drive
[22:39] <nsteeves> Turns out there were more problems with the patch and all releases have been disabled. Updated packages for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty and Gutsy will be provided soon.
[22:39] <nickrud> Arthanix: yeah, someone did a booboo for sure
[22:39] <Xklark> and getting the 403 error
[22:39] <friedrich> box1, try to disable security updates
[22:39] <stroyan> Triplee23: You can see the current runlevel with "who -r"
[22:39] <Xklark> i have all the files its triyng to download..
[22:40] <nsteeves> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/163116/comments/3
[22:40] <box1> erUSUL: If I disable security, can I reinstall ubuntu-destkop with no samba?
[22:40]  * box1 tries
[22:40] <nsteeves> I shouldn't have switched mirrors
[22:40] <erUSUL> box1: it will use the version aviable on the other repos afaics
[22:40] <nickrud> Xklark: you have an ubuntu source listed somewhere ... and I think you should read what nsteeves just posted if you need samba functionality now
 i have a laptop and all i need is to run a slideshow but the computer does not have a hard drive, can anyone contact me in a private chat or msn messenger
[22:41] <Xklark> so my best bet is just to wait?
[22:41] <Xklark> till they fix it?
[22:41] <larson15> or aol chat
[22:41] <friedrich> box1, yes
[22:41] <box1> erUSUL: trying now...
[22:41] <box1> thanks
[22:41] <friedrich> It must be update concerning recent CIFS hole
[22:41] <Arthanix> grrr.. I was installing my brand new mythtv box... now I can't finnish it because of this samba crap
[22:41] <Triplee23> Thanx nickrun and stroyan!
[22:41] <pipegeek> arrrrgh
[22:41] <Pelo> !install | larson15
[22:41] <ubotu> larson15: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[22:41] <friedrich> Arthanix, you too
[22:41] <pipegeek> both tilda and yakuake in gutsy are broken
[22:41] <maxb> It's very irritating. Surely it would be better to just have removed the samba update from the Packages file
[22:42] <Xklark> nickrud: should i just wait till they fix it? then try it later?
[22:42] <box1> erUSUL: friedrich: It's downloading samba now, thanks for your help
[22:42] <erUSUL> box1: no problem
[22:42] <Xklark> wait, box1 how did you do it?
[22:42] <friedrich> Xklark, disable security updates
[22:42] <erUSUL> box1: enable security again asap
[22:42] <Triplee23> I update the value in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/igmp_max_memberships from 1 to 2 but every time I boot, the value is reset to 1. Anyone who knows how I can prevent this?
[22:42] <blah569> I want to install Ubuntu, but before I do, most of the stuff I do is Windows related, but, I need Ubuntu for some C++, but, since the most of the stuff I do is Windows only, I can't quiet think of any reason to actually boot up into Ubuntu constatly, can anyone give my some conviceing reasons to actually use Ubuntu constasntly?
[22:42] <Xklark> ok thanks
[22:42] <nickrud> Xklark: I'd wait till it was fixed; you could also take erUSUL 's advice and comment out security for now
[22:42] <box1> erUSUL: Righto
[22:43] <Pelo> blah569,  just try the live cd , see if you like it
[22:43] <box1> Xklark: Got it?
[22:43] <Xklark> uhm
[22:43] <Kl4m> Could anybody explain me why this script wouldn't run on startup if it's in /etc/rc5.d and 777? http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/777620
[22:43] <blah569> I've tried the Live CD, countless of times before.
[22:43] <nickrud> blah569: run ubuntu, and windows in a vm.
[22:43] <jalguy> blah, was in the same shoes a few months ago, I found work arounds and am enjoying linux very much
[22:43] <Xklark> explain again box1 - sorry im new :(
[22:43] <blah569> I have.
[22:43] <jsschmid1> !kernel
[22:43] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[22:43] <Pelo> Kl4m, permission maybe ?
[22:44] <blah569> I have emulated Ubuntu a lot, as well.
[22:44] <Xklark> i have the update settings opened
[22:44] <box1> Hey, any idea how soon the samba package will be fixed?
[22:44] <blah569> I've been messing with Ubuntu at like the beginning of 2006.
[22:44] <friedrich> erUSUL, you was first. Sorry, haven't seen your advice :)
[22:44] <mynyml> if i installed an app with make install, is there usually a way to uninstall it? what would the file be called?
[22:44] <box1> Xklark: I just edited my sources.list file but you should probably use synaptic
[22:44] <friedrich> mynyml, make uninstall
[22:44] <ubernewhacks> so can anyone give me a link to a tut for xp vista ubuntu before i start formatting my harddrive?
[22:44] <friedrich> if it supports.
[22:44] <jsschmid1> nickrud: I did the following: sudo apt-get build-dep linux-source-2.6.22                       apt-get source linux-source-2.6.22
[22:44] <nickrud> mynyml: if the developer was kind, make uninstall
[22:44] <tommax1083> i cant connect to ##java channel... when i try system reply that username are not registred...how i can connect to ##java channel?
[22:45] <box1> nickrud:-)
[22:45] <erUSUL> friedrich: bad bad bad :P trying to steal my patented fix-o-matic for ubuntu XD
[22:45] <friedrich> tommax1083, /ns register help
[22:45] <Pelo> blah569,  if messing with ubuntu since 2006 has not given you sufficent reasons to use it as your main os, there is little we can say to change it
[22:45] <stroyan> Triplee23: Set the net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships value in /etc/sysctl.conf so it will be set at boot time.
[22:45] <friedrich> erUSUL, :`(
[22:45] <friedrich> Will you sue me?
[22:45] <nickrud> jsschmid1: not sure then, I haven't done a kernel compile in a couple of years
[22:46] <Xklark> box1: i still get the 403 error when installing from synaptic
[22:46] <erUSUL> friedrich: for a trillion $'s no less XD
[22:46] <Triplee23> stroyan: thanx
[22:46] <friedrich> erUSUL, damned
[22:46] <box1> Xklark: Ok, I will help you stand by
[22:46] <nickrud> Xklark: you need to do update (reload?) first
[22:47] <blah569> I need Ubuntu to do some C and C++ stuff, however.  I just wonder if I should buy another laptop, and install Ubuntu on that, because I can't quiet thing of any reason I wouldn't constantly boot into Ubuntu unless I'm doing some C or C++ work.
[22:47] <Xklark> nickrud: what? sorry im new to ubuntu :(
[22:47] <box1> Is this the same chan on freenode as the ubuntu servers?
[22:47] <rapid> blah569: you should look at virtualization if you'd like to save some money
[22:47] <rmaj> blah569: hmm?
[22:47] <rmaj> blah569: you can obviusly devleop c++ in ubuntu
[22:48] <box1> nickrud: I'll help him in a sec,can you answer my question? ^^^
[22:48] <blah569> I know.
[22:48] <friedrich> blah569, xen rules!
[22:48] <dejai> Just install wine
[22:48] <nickrud> Xklark: the reload button will update your sources, removing the security sources.
[22:48] <nickrud> box1: which one?
[22:48] <box1> Is this the same chan on freenode as the ubuntu servers?
[22:48] <rapid> Ahuh
[22:48] <Nadhr_> will  AutoCAD run on wine?
[22:48] <dejai> With Ubuntu with a bit of configuring you should be able to do, a lot more than you can on any other non unix like operating system
[22:49] <Pelo> box1,  the ubuntu server is on freenode
[22:49] <Pelo> Nadhr_, not realy , r14 works but is clucky
[22:49] <nickrud> box1: I do believe so, this is the 'official' channel
[22:49] <Xklark> nickrud: i have no idea what reload button your talking about
[22:49] <Xklark> sorry for being slow
[22:49] <dejai> It should allow the application of programs such as that but its at you personal discretion to try that.
[22:49] <nickrud> Xklark: on synaptic, left button below the menu bar
[22:49] <Xklark> Oh
[22:49] <danny> i need help getting a mac like theme for ubuntu 7.10
[22:49] <friedrich> Nadhr_, if you have enough money for Autocad you should have enough for WinXP Home
[22:49] <rmaj> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
[22:49] <Nadhr_> is it better to run it under virtual box
[22:49] <rmaj> omg
[22:49] <rmaj> \o/
[22:50] <Pelo> danny,  just drag drop the tar.gz file on the theme manager
[22:50] <dejai> Hmm, a mac like theme for Ubnuntu
[22:50] <dejai> Do you also wish to get a mac dock?
[22:50] <Xklark> ok, now what nickrud ?
[22:50] <danny> yes
[22:50] <dejai> Ok
[22:50] <Pelo> rmaj, just ask a question,  stuff like this will get  you booted
[22:50] <Nadhr_> am trying to let my company go for linux
[22:50] <dejai> Give me 20 seconds I will pull some stuff up for you :D
[22:50] <nickrud> Xklark: mark all upgrades, then apply
[22:50] <danny> ok
[22:50] <friedrich> Nadhr_, windows on xen just for autocad
[22:50] <danny> =)
[22:50] <rmaj> anyone can download to hdd and play offline following: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9208418729889410819 ?
[22:50] <rmaj> Pelo: ^
[22:50] <box1> nickrud: Ahh, but my nick is only registered with freenode, thanks :0
[22:51] <FluxD> I am getting this error "You don't have permission to access /ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba-common_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb on this server."
[22:51] <dejai> http://www.gnome-look.org/
[22:51] <gogeta> :)
[22:51] <nickrud> box1: what domain are you logged onto, I only know of the irc.freenode.net getting me here
[22:51] <FluxD> is the file not there anyomore?
[22:51] <dejai> That is the most likely resource to find a mac theme (http://www.gnome-look.org/_
[22:51] <Nadhr_> i've tried virtualbox but xen
[22:51] <Pelo> rmaj,  look play it in the browser and then ( without closing the browser) , check in /tmp
[22:51] <Xklark> nickrud: i did that, still getting the same error
[22:51] <gogeta> Nadhr_ depends on the pc
[22:51] <nickrud> FluxD: it's broke, wait a while.
[22:51] <danny> thanks
[22:52] <rmaj> Pelo: /tmp O_o ?
[22:52] <dejai> As for the Ubuntu/ Mac Doc (http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Mac_Dock_on_Ubuntu_Howto)
[22:52] <box1> nickrud: Doesn't matter, are you helping Xklark?
[22:52] <Nadhr_> is xen faster than virtualbox
[22:52] <gogeta> Nadhr_if they have hardware vitulation then using kqemu would be ast
[22:52] <Pelo> rmaj,  the /tmp folder on your hdd
[22:52] <FluxD> nickrud: thx
[22:52] <Xklark> nickrud ill leave you alone - i can ask box1 if you want
[22:52] <gogeta> Nadhr_ otherwise vmware is gonna preform the best
[22:52] <Xklark> box1, query?
[22:52] <SliMM> is there an equivalent of ctrl+alt+del from windows in ubuntu (gnome)
[22:52] <scottdkoder> Xklark: Check your pm, I am box1
[22:52] <SliMM> ?
[22:53] <friedrich> Nadhr_, really, if it works - son't touch it
[22:53] <dejai> May I ask if anyone has found a functional IDE with a friendly interface ?
[22:53] <Xklark> ok
[22:53] <nickrud> Xklark: then you haven't disabled the security source yet, settings->repositories, updates tab, uncheck important security updates
[22:53] <icanic> hi
[22:53] <gogeta> SliMM yea ctrl alt delete
[22:53] <gogeta> lol
[22:53] <Xklark> OH
[22:53] <erUSUL> dejai: emacs XD lol
[22:53] <friedrich> Linux just for linux... You'll spend more money and time to make it work
[22:53] <gogeta> SliMM or do you mean the prosses manager
[22:53] <icanic> can someone help me with ubuntu on imac :-)
[22:53] <nickrud> Xklark: then reload, mark for upgrades, and apply
[22:53] <SliMM> dejai: i like gedit, but geany is quite good
[22:53] <dejai> Thanks.
[22:53] <SliMM> gogeta: what does ctrl alt del do?
[22:54] <gogeta> SliMM reboots system
[22:54]  * nickrud thinks a joke just whiffed
[22:54] <gogeta> SliMM ctrl alt backspace reboots x
[22:54] <kode> SliMM: reboots system if in console
[22:54]  * scottDkoDer thinks #ubuntu should be divided into specific topic sections
[22:54] <ticnailer69> how can I change my settings from 16 bit color to 32 bit color?
[22:54] <Nadhr_> what do u mean?
[22:54] <SliMM> yeah, well a process manager with a high nice value would be great
[22:54] <Vladimir32tl> hi! can anyone help: ive got a c: and d: (empty) drive and wish to install ubuntu on d: if i rub the live cd will ubuntu give me a chance to install on d: and still get dual boot with xp (which is on c:) without having to do any partitions?
[22:54]  * Pelo pats nickrud  on the shoulder: it happens 
[22:55] <gogeta> SliMM in a term use ps -A
[22:55]  * nickrud preens, cuz it wasn't his :)
[22:55] <gogeta> shows everything running
[22:55] <Juerd> My screen keeps blanking after a while
[22:55] <danny> at www.gnome-look.com is it gdm themes?
[22:55] <ticnailer69> I'm trying to run a game and it says that a window cannot be created without using 32 bit color setting
[22:55] <friedrich> Nadhr_, think twice before moving your office to linux
[22:55] <Kalamarencu> hello
[22:55] <Nadhr_> why?
[22:55] <Juerd> I've disabled the screen saver, set the time to "never" in the energy options, even did "xset s off", but the damn thing keeps blanking after a while. Even during video playback!
[22:55] <gogeta> SliMM you can eyther use the number to kill like kill 7564 or kallall appname
[22:55] <Juerd> Any hints?
[22:55] <SliMM> gogeta: this is my scenario: i'm in a game on my not-so-good computer, and it freezes, what do i do?
[22:55] <Pelo> Vladimir32tl, yes pretty much,  but I suggest you set your bios to boot from d before installing, that way grub will install completely to d and leave c alone,  you'll be able to remove either hdd with no issue
[22:55] <smallfields> hi, i have a fresh installation of ubuntu 7.10, i have done some updates, but i cant do others, i get an error "W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb
[22:55] <smallfields>   403 Forbidden"
[22:56] <nickrud> And hello, Pelo
[22:56] <Kalamarencu> !setup RDP
[22:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about setup rdp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:56] <erUSUL> smallfields: see the topic please
[22:56] <Arko> i got this error: "Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution". Which package should I install?
[22:56] <gogeta> SliMM ps-A find game in list killall game
[22:56] <ticnailer69> Nadhr_, That is just what they require. I don't know why to be honest.
[22:56] <smallfields> ups
[22:56] <Pelo> smallfields,  don'T worry to much about it , the server might be having some issues,  try again later
[22:56] <Triplee23> stroyan: I added this to /etc/sysctl.conf  "net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships=2" but unfortunately it was reset to 1 after boot. Any ideas?
[22:56] <gogeta> SliMM if using dedega then its always killall wine
[22:56] <Kalamarencu> anyone knows how to set up RDP to connect to a windows xp machine?
[22:56] <friedrich> Nadhr_, it's an excellent system but you should decide why exactly do you need it. If it's just a wish "I don't like Windows"... it's not good idea
[22:56] <smallfields> ok, thank you very much
[22:56] <gogeta> SliMM ctrol alt f1 to get to a text term
[22:56] <SliMM> gogeta: good, how do i open the terminal if i am in the game?
[22:57] <gogeta> SliMM if x is frozen
[22:57]  * ifco is desparate
[22:57] <SliMM> oh
[22:57] <SliMM> gogeta: thanks
[22:57] <Kalamarencu> anyone knows how to set up RDP to connect to a windows xp machine?
[22:57] <Pelo> ifco,  needs to state his problem
[22:57] <ifco> hey quys
[22:57] <gogeta> SliMM ctrl alt f7 to return to x
[22:57] <jjfourtwenty> hey
[22:57] <stroyan> Triplee23: Does "sysctl net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships" report 1?
[22:57] <ifco> yeah, my problem is big
[22:57] <pike_> Kalamarencu: i normally just use rdesktop   like rdesktop ipaddress
[22:57] <Vladimir32tl> Pelo: what happens if i dont go into bios to change anything, will i still get dual boot option even if its not grub?
[22:57] <Pelo> !enter | ifco
[22:57] <ubotu> ifco: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[22:58] <ifco> currently on livecd, my win or lin wont boot :(
[22:58] <sutabi> Anyone know of any graphics cards that just work well on ubuntu? Right now I have a radeon 9600 but there is no 3d acceleration, plus its getting outdated so I want to buy a new one anyways
[22:58] <pike_> Kalamarencu: imo its alot better than the windows tool i prefer it anyway as a client
[22:58] <ata4ix> hmm... grab 1.5 is allows to edit the line of the boot cmd, but not save them after restart :(
[22:58] <Triplee23> stroyan: I reports 2 now but I set it to 2 manually after boot.
[22:58] <ata4ix> what need to do?
[22:58] <RichW> ifco: bootloader?
[22:58] <Pelo> Vladimir32tl,  you wil have grub phase one on one hdd and phase two on the other, wich means that you will always need both hdd in the comp to use either, my way you can remove either and still have a working comp
[22:58] <ifco> yeah bootloader
[22:58] <friedrich> sutabi, modern nvidia and amd-ati cards both work good
[22:59] <Arko> hmmm
[22:59] <Kalamarencu> pike_,I do not use the command line, It is the one with gui
[22:59] <nickrud> ata4ix: if you mean grub, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to make those changes permanent
[22:59] <RichW> ifco: lots of guides on fixing grub, its not hard
[22:59] <ata4ix> oh!
[22:59] <ifco> am quite a newbie to linux, have been searchin for help in forums and everywhere, nothing helped
[22:59] <friedrich> sutabi, even Radeon 9600 with propietary drivers will be excelent card
[22:59] <Vladimir32tl> Pelo: i only have one hdd but with 2 partitions on it already (c: is used by xp and d is empty)
[22:59] <jjfourtwenty> i use supergrub for all gurb probs
[22:59] <jjfourtwenty> its easy
[22:59] <pike_> Kalamarencu: try grdesktop
[22:59] <Kalamarencu> pike_, are we talking about the same thing? If I connect to a Windows XP machine do I need to create a user?
[22:59] <Pelo> Vladimir32tl,  ignore everything I said then, just install ubuntu to your d partition and be happy
[23:00] <Kalamarencu> pike_, will Do :)
[23:00] <ifco> i have just burnt it on other pc but even the super grub wont boot from cd!!
[23:00] <gogeta> Kalamarencu can use your reg xp user name if connecting to xp
[23:00] <stroyan> Triplee23: Does "sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships=4" set it to 4? Does "sudo sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf" get back to the setting you want?
[23:00] <ifco> everything else boots from cds, dunno why is that
[23:00] <ata4ix> thanks! ^)
[23:00] <Vladimir32tl> Pelo: thanks! im a first time linux user. and by the way, if i decide to uninstall ubutnu on d:, is it possible?
[23:00] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl very
[23:01] <Pelo> Vladimir32tl,  you'll just hve to restore the windows mbr to get rid of grub
[23:01] <sutabi> friedrich: I am running ati's propietary driver the most recent and right now it just throws me to the config to detect my card and display
[23:01] <Vladimir32tl> Pelo: how do i restore windows mbr?
[23:01] <Cpudan80> Getting rid of GRUB is a simple procedure
[23:01] <gogeta> Pelo no he whont if installing again it will replace grub
[23:01] <Pelo> Vladimir32tl, google
[23:01] <ifco> my problem is that i installed ubuntu on a partition on an external hdd, i guess it messed up my mbr or whatever
[23:01] <ata4ix> and how to set the screen resolution in text mode for grub? at high i have only 80x60 vga=6... but how to set 120x80 and other custom resultions?
[23:01] <Cpudan80> Vladimir32tl: cross that bridge when you come to it
[23:01] <Cpudan80> if you come to it
[23:01] <ata4ix> grub
[23:01] <Cpudan80> Vladimir32tl: ##windows
[23:02] <Pelo> gogeta, I think he meant to just remove ubuntu and still have is windows install working properly
[23:02] <ata4ix> Vladimir fdisk /mbr
[23:02] <Juerd> Found the solution for the screen blanking.
[23:02] <pike_> thats one reason i think ubuntu should setup a sep /boot partition
[23:02] <SliMM> gogeta: well, X failed to resume
[23:02] <Vladimir32tl> i hope things work well. im getting tired on windows (especially the new vista version(s)<-- 6 versions or something?) i think linux is much better because of its open source advantage
[23:03] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl use xp install cd and push the buttion for recovery console login with your admin account type fixmbr
[23:03] <ata4ix> Juerd?
[23:03] <lakin> Argh.  No sound in enemy-territory and I've followed all of the instructions I can find in the forums
[23:03] <Cpudan80> Vladimir32tl: MS is hemorrhaging customers because of Vista
[23:03] <ata4ix> agree with gogeta
[23:03] <ifco> pike_ so what, should i set another boot partition or ..
[23:03] <Kopfgeldjaeger> n8
[23:03] <Juerd> ata4ix: I asked a question 8 minutes ago, and found the solution myself.
[23:03] <Cpudan80> Many are either staying with XP or switching to *nix
[23:03] <gogeta> SliMM well you can ctrl alt backspace to reboot x
[23:03] <Pelo> later folks
[23:03] <gogeta> SliMM when game frezzes
[23:04] <Cpudan80> Vista's sales figures are only propped up by the OEMs
[23:04] <Whisperkiller> how do i change user to root in terminal?
[23:04] <hubuntu> anyone knows how to redirect a page to another page in moin moin (ubuntu wiki)?
[23:04] <Vladimir32tl> gogeta: but since ill have dual boot in grub, cant i enter xp and delete all files on d: drive -- or will that not work?
[23:04] <Cpudan80> Whisperkiller: sudo -i
[23:04] <pike_> ifco: well you dont need to i just like to have my mbr and /boot intact if i decide to wipe a partition or whatever
[23:04] <ata4ix> Jured where is you found this? :) please tell me
[23:04] <ata4ix> the same quaestion? not
[23:04] <SliMM> gogeta: yes, i know that, but i would rather stop the game and continue my work
[23:04] <Juerd> ata4ix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341617 the post by Juantao
[23:04] <erUSUL> !root | Whisperkiller
[23:04] <ubotu> Whisperkiller: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:04] <hubuntu> or is there a channel for ubuntu wiki?
[23:04] <erUSUL> Whisperkiller: you can get a "root shell" via 'sudo -i'
[23:05] <hubuntu> !moin moin
[23:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moin moin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:05] <ata4ix> gracias!
[23:05] <hubuntu> !ubuntu wiki
[23:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu wiki - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:05] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl no you have to reformat d to a windoes format
[23:05] <hubuntu> !ubuntuwiki
[23:05] <Some_Person> Is there an error in security.ubuntu.com?
[23:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuwiki - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:05] <ifco> pike_ right thats u but i dont have it so my grub just stops with the error 21 everytime..
[23:05] <Whisperkiller> thats what i wanted to know
[23:05] <RichW> what is ubuntu going to do about #ubuntu as it gets more popular, wont it get overcrowded?
[23:05] <nickrud> Some_Person: see the topic
[23:05] <Some_Person> !wiki | hubuntu
[23:05] <ubotu> hubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[23:05] <Whisperkiller> how do i close the root shell?
[23:05] <SliMM> gogeta: is it because i have just 100 MB of swap why i can't resume X?
[23:05] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl and if you do that befor fixing the mbr your system whont boot when you do couse grub will crash
[23:05] <erUSUL> Whisperkiller: exit
[23:05] <Some_Person> thanks, nickrud
[23:05] <nickrud> RichW: lol, it's gone from 200 or so to 1200 now, I don't think so
[23:05] <Whisperkiller> thanks so much
[23:05] <andi5> is there something like a "floating topic line"? ;-)
[23:05] <lounge-about> i need some help removing a stubborn package
[23:06] <gogeta> SliMM no idea might be a video card issue
[23:06] <bruenig> RichW, the combined stupidity of such a room will reach infinity causing the universe to implode I think
[23:06] <gogeta> SliMM aris can be flaky
[23:06] <ifco> #ubuntu-cz
[23:06] <gogeta> atis
[23:06] <Vladimir32tl> gogeta: makes sense... so what would be the easiest wall to reformat d: to ntfs?
[23:06] <ifco> fok
[23:06] <eugman> I want to make some simple econimc diagrams, anyone know of a good program to make cartesian graphs?
[23:06] <RichW> nice reply :)
[23:06] <Vladimir32tl> *way
[23:06] <humbolto> Why does the Xen kernel not support CPU frequency scaling? Does not make much sense considering that some people want to use Xen for running Windows and Linux side by side on their laptops.
[23:07] <Ax-Ax> i cant get into bios, but i guess this isn't is the right chanel
[23:07] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl  you can use the linux installer cd to format it to vfat i beleve
[23:07] <danny> i need help im at www.gnome-look.org and i have ubuntu 7.10 i want a mac os x theme and i dont know what tap i chose GDM theme GTK 2.x or GTK 1.x
[23:07] <danny> ?
[23:07] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl then use windows to make it ntfs
[23:07] <nickrud> lounge-about: could you put the output of apt-get -f install on a pastebin?
[23:07] <andi5> danny: GTK 2.x
[23:07] <nanonyme> i'm getting 403 forbidden for http://security.ubuntu.com
[23:07] <danny> thanks
[23:07] <jonte> Hey people.. Any ideas on how I can create an EXPANDING truecrypt volume? I don't want it to allocate space directly when created.
[23:07] <crdlb> !sambabug | nanonyme
[23:07] <ubotu> nanonyme: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[23:07] <dx9s_home> anybody have an expected timeframe on fixing the permissions issue on *samba* 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1 stuff?
[23:07] <nanonyme> ahm
[23:07] <Vladimir32tl> thanks gogeta
[23:07] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl or partation magic for windows
[23:07] <lounge-about> nickrud: possibly?
[23:08] <PriceChild> dx9s_home, will be done when its done
[23:08] <Some_Person> nonoyme: look at the topic
[23:08] <PriceChild> dx9s_home, please just be patient
[23:08] <nickrud> lounge-about: that will show the errors, probably fixable ;)
[23:08] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl oor evein the xp installer cd
[23:08] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl or even plain old fdisk
[23:08] <lounge-about> nickrud: i have the error already, i just dont know what to do
[23:08] <Triplee23> stroyan: Yes, what did I do?
[23:08] <dx9s_home> PriceChild, TY ... just curious seems like it is a simple permissions thing thing ... perhaps there is more ;)
[23:08] <dwees> anyone know when the samba upgrade will be 'unbroken'?
[23:08] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl plenty of ways
[23:08] <nickrud> lounge-about: so show it already
[23:08] <Ely> Hello everyone
[23:08] <eugman> Anyone know a program I can draw graphs with?
[23:09] <Vladimir32tl> gogeta: i dont have xp installer cd, i bought the pc without one, instead i have a "recovery disk" but all that does is restore the pc to when i first bought the pc
[23:09] <dwees> eugman: what kind of graph?
[23:09] <dwees> eugman: function type?
[23:09] <crdlb> dx9s_home: they changed the permissions because the package is broken (to prevent people from downloading it)
[23:09] <erUSUL> eugman: a spreadsheet ??
[23:09] <dwees> eugman: Geogebra
[23:09] <RichW> !grub
[23:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:09] <dx9s_home> crdlb, I figured as much
[23:09] <dx9s_home> crdlb, TY
[23:09] <RichW> that might be useful to someone here
[23:09] <nickrud> xplot?
[23:09] <Some_Person> Is there a Windows Media Center-type thingybob for Ubutnu?
[23:09] <PriceChild> dx9s_home, permissions have been changed on the files so you can't download them
[23:09] <lounge-about> nickrud:
[23:09] <lounge-about> Removing opendchub ...
[23:09] <erUSUL> Some_Person: mythtv
[23:09] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl ack
[23:09] <lounge-about> Stopping Open DC Hub: opendchubTerminated
[23:09] <nickrud> lounge-about: stop
[23:10] <lounge-about> invoke-rc.d: initscript opendchub, action "stop" failed.
[23:10] <lounge-about> dpkg: error processing opendchub (--remove):
[23:10] <lounge-about>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 143
[23:10] <lounge-about> Starting Open DC Hub: opendchub already running.
[23:10] <lounge-about> Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:10] <lounge-about>  opendchub
[23:10] <RichW> !mythtv
[23:10] <Arko> I typed cd /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ubuntu/media/ and it says that there is no such file or directory. Did I miss any package during installation?
[23:10] <RichW> hmm
[23:10] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[23:10] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl then you need to use the grub live cd to restore the mbr
[23:10] <ljpp> hi ppl, what is the Pidgin settings directory in ubuntu?
[23:10] <Amon_Re> Hey peeps
[23:10] <RichW> Some_Person: See what ubotu said.
[23:10] <dwees> eugman: www.geogebra.org
[23:10] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl thers a gpartationd cd to
[23:10] <Amon_Re> Does anyone have any links on information on how to make .deb files?
[23:10] <Some_Person> erUSUL, RichW: MythTV only does the TV stuff
[23:10] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl you can use to restore the drive to a windows format
[23:10] <eugman> dwees: just like a f(x) kind of graph
[23:10] <ljpp> I want to create an ln to my windows pidgin settings but cant find them in Ubuntu
[23:10] <Vladimir32tl> anyways, i dont see how windows will stay up: the fact is linux is a much better os and its free - hopefully thanks to ubuntu microsoft will slowly dwindle to nothing
[23:11] <nickrud> lounge-about: run apt-get -f install , copy and paste the whole thing to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[23:11] <riotkittie> sigh.
[23:11] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl then why remove it
[23:11] <RichW> Some_Person: I use it for everything, music, movies the works
[23:11] <dwees> eugman: yeah see www.geogebra.org, it's a Java based program
[23:11] <eugman> erUSUL: No, more like simple lines or curves on a grid to show a point
[23:11] <eugman> dwees: ohhh
[23:11] <lounge-about> nickrud: is that another channel?
[23:11] <nickrud> riotkittie: a bad day?
[23:11] <andi5> ljpp: ~/.purple?
[23:11] <erUSUL> eugman: gnuplot, scigraphica
[23:11] <riotkittie> nickrud: no :x
[23:11] <eugman> thanks guys
[23:11] <nickrud> lounge-about: no, it's a web site you can paste text to for all to see
[23:11] <fox32> i need help with WIFI and debian
[23:12] <bruenig> fox32, ask
[23:12] <Vladimir32tl> gogeta: well i realize no os is perfect, so its just a matter of understanding the process in case anything happens
[23:12] <gogeta> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
[23:12] <gogeta> the partationer
[23:12] <ata4ix> how i can autostart some programs with logon under X for concretical user?
[23:12] <erUSUL> fox32: /join #debian
[23:12] <Vladimir32tl> ...or to completely remove windows from c if it comes to that
[23:12] <PriceChild> !startup | ata4ix
[23:12] <ubotu> ata4ix: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[23:12] <fox32> erUSUL: they arent helping much
[23:12] <ata4ix> KDE?
[23:12] <ata4ix> for
[23:13] <Vladimir32tl> i really like ubuntu (used live cd and wubi before) but it seems it still lacks the "simplicity" factor. but again every os has problems and hopefully ubuntu will get better (although its already easy to use)
[23:13] <desertc> How could it be more simple?
[23:13] <dx9s_home> heh
[23:14] <nickrud> rflol
[23:14] <gogeta> !grub
[23:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:14] <ata4ix> how to setup xorg for DVI?
[23:14] <raranp> echo desertc
[23:14] <dwees> there's tonnes of information on the web to help out ubuntu users
[23:14] <dwees> as a new ubuntu user myself I can verify that it has helped me get up to speed quickly on the basics
[23:14] <Some_Person> Vladimir32tl: What do you mean by "simplicity factor'?
[23:14] <RichW> Where does LIRC put its error logs? As it crashed.
[23:14] <Vladimir32tl> well.. i gues those who have been using windows have this sort of "bridge" to cross over - many gui things are different -- it just takes time to get used to
[23:14] <desertc> Really - if there were ways to make it simpler, then I think Ubuntu would like to move in that direction.
[23:15] <Lattyware> That's not simplicity, that's 'being exactly like windows'
[23:15] <Lattyware> which is not the aim
[23:15] <Gorgory> nem desisto de config o fluxbox aff
[23:15] <gogeta> http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[23:15] <raranp> I believe windows would be harder to learn from scratch
[23:15] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[23:15] <andi5> raranp: seconded
[23:15] <Lattyware> raranp: indeed
[23:16] <kevin> does anyone know why cd burning fails for me with gutsy?
[23:16] <desertc> Windows is harder to learn -- they've done some human factor studies on it.
[23:16] <nickrud> I kinda like the philosophy of writing stuff to scratch itches, luckily many of my itchy places match coder's
[23:16] <andi5> kevin: are you using the file browser (nautilus)?
[23:16] <Vladimir32tl> although ubuntu is great, nonetheless its different... but again if everyone used linux at first then making a switch to windows would be difficult--its just a perspective
[23:16] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl using those 2 live cds you can reformat d and restore your mbr
[23:16] <dx9s_home> desertc, pre vista study ?
[23:16] <kevin> i've tried nautilus, k3b, and brasero
[23:16] <desertc> Don't use Windows first?
[23:16] <dwees> interesting fact
[23:16] <jburd> kevin: Have you tried using slower burning speeds?
[23:16] <eugman> dwees: looks nearly perfect, is it possible to makesomething like a parabola?
[23:16] <andi5> kevin: what do you mean by "fails"?
[23:16] <dwees> here in Thailand I can buy a laptop without windows
[23:17] <Vladimir32tl> gogeta: thanks for the tip
[23:17] <ljpp> where are the Pidgin settings located in Gutsy?
[23:17] <kevin> yes
[23:17] <dwees> eugman: type y = x^2 into the input line and press enter
[23:17] <kevin> but the lowest choice was 16 x
[23:17] <andi5> ljpp: so have you tried ~/.purple?
[23:17] <jburd> ljpp: ~/.pidgin I suppose?
[23:17] <dwees> and it costs 2/3 of a laptop with windows
[23:17] <jburd> or .purple yes
[23:17] <raranp> dwees is a lucky person
[23:17] <eugman> dwees: awesome. Thanks a lot.
[23:17] <RichW> kevin: Try playing with BIOS settings regading your hard drive/ide/sata configuration
[23:17] <kevin> i heard it was something to do with the kernel
[23:17] <desertc> dwees: But is it a supported solution?
[23:17] <pal_> g
[23:17] <lounge-about> nickrud: ok i pasted it there
[23:17] <Cpudan80> What media player do you guys recommend?
[23:18] <Cpudan80> Ie. iTunes
[23:18] <PriceChild> Cpudan80, rhythmbox
[23:18] <raranp> probably the same laptop you would get here without the branding
[23:18] <PriceChild> Cpudan80, comes installed by deafult
[23:18] <dwees> well it comes with linux instead, so I just install the version of linux I like
[23:18] <erUSUL> !players
[23:18] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[23:18] <Vladimir32tl> btw vista is auwful! so slow on my machine i had to use xp for now -- but want to switch to linux completely... hopefully more commercial areas will be more linux oriented
[23:18] <kevin> i can successfully burn in windows though
[23:18] <dwees> they have themed it so it looks a lot like Windows
[23:18] <Cpudan80> I kinda like banshee
[23:18] <nickrud> lounge-about: ok, now you need to give me the link so I can find it :)
[23:18] <xivanari> how do i restart a process like gtk-window-decorator
[23:18] <dwees> I think they are trying to rip people off, which is funny because that's a common thread here
[23:18] <Cpudan80> I was just lookin for some opinions
[23:18] <gogeta> Vladimir32tl i  dont think it can format ntfs but it can fat32 so you can then use xp to makeit ntfs again
[23:18] <desertc> kevin: I'd like to burn Windows, too.
[23:18] <ljpp> andi5: .purple it seems...wtf is .purple..
[23:18] <Ely> Hello guys how can I make the text under my desktop icons on Ubunto Bold? and is it possible to change its color too?
[23:18] <kevin> lol
[23:18] <xivanari> more specifically, how do i restart the process gtk-window-decorator
[23:19] <Cpudan80> LjL: Pidgin
[23:19] <Cpudan80> oops
[23:19] <lounge-about> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44818/
[23:19] <kevin> i've also tried burning as root
[23:19] <jburd> How does one setup dual-booting Linux installations?   Can I share /boot?  And, if I use LVM per distro, does it cause any problems?
[23:19] <Cpudan80> ljpp: pidgin
[23:19] <dx9s_home> Vladimir32tl, heh you got that right... DRM up the arse! Vista users have been declared enemy combatants and all the DRM is huge... 400MB is memory used on a fresh installed/booted Vista machine? F! that sucks
[23:19] <dwees> my students all have Vista on their laptops and they hate it
[23:19] <dwees> and they know NOTHING about computers
[23:19] <Cpudan80> Good
[23:19] <gogeta> dx9s_home vistas pretty mutch the enmy of any pc
[23:20] <Cpudan80> The more people who hate vista the better
[23:20] <lounge-about> this package is keeping me from completely upgrading because it always fails =/
[23:20] <xivanari> i hate vista.
[23:20] <Cpudan80> MS needs to learn from this colossal mistake
[23:20] <kevin> i don't plan to ever use vista
[23:20] <Cpudan80> They should have learned it back with ME
[23:20] <Cpudan80> Apparently they didnt
[23:20] <xivanari> okay so how do i get permissions to edit a .conf file
[23:20] <gogeta> 6 years delys and its still garbage
[23:20] <nickrud> lounge-about: now, post /var/lib/dpkg/info/opendchup , since I don't have it installed. We'll probably make a small change there to allow you to uninstall
[23:20] <xivanari> apparently i cannot save after i edit it
[23:20] <xristian> ehlo sckrz, any fckn idea how to convert a wav file to mp3
[23:20] <xivanari> because i dont have the permissions.
[23:20] <dx9s_home> I am sure most have read parts of this: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html (cost of vista)
[23:20] <desertc> I don't like talking about Windows.  It's boring.  Can we get back to the discussion of Ubuntu?
[23:20] <xivanari> but i am the sole user of this computer, why wouldnt i have permissions
[23:21] <Arko> which package has snd_hda_intel module?
[23:21] <gogeta> !windows\
[23:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windows\ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:21] <nickrud> lounge-about: erm,  /var/lib/dpkg/info/opendchup.prerm that is
[23:21] <gogeta> !windows
[23:21] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[23:21] <dx9s_home> good night time reading .. puts you to sleep or gets you sooo heated... you can't sleep!
[23:21] <xivanari> god sometimes ubuntu can be really freakin stupid though lol
[23:21] <kevin> there was an episode of security now where they talked about all the DRM in it, and that was enough to keep me away
[23:21] <Vladimir32tl> dwees: exactly! the only reason people use windows is because they dont know everything, now im the same but i want to learn about linux and get away from the fake perceptions that ms is giving the public - lets face it, how can windows defeat linux in the long run?
[23:21] <buttercups> Ely, change your desktop font to bold, font settings
[23:21] <xivanari> i mean i have to jump through so many hoops to fix the dozens and dozens of bugs and errors.
[23:21] <xivanari> i dont even know what is going on
[23:21] <xivanari> and all my friends who said they would help me have disappeared
[23:21] <xristian> winholez
[23:21] <nickrud> Vladimir32tl: easily, laurels don't always go to the best
[23:22] <Blank_> hate to annoy anyone, but has anyone else been receiving 403 errors on the security repository?
[23:22] <jburd> xivanari: They did the right thing(tm).  :P
[23:22] <jburd> xivanari: That's how you learn.  :P
[23:22] <Ely> buttercups, yes but where?
[23:22] <desertc> !support
[23:22] <ubotu> the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[23:22] <nickrud> !sambabug| Blank_
[23:22] <ubotu> Blank_: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[23:22] <danny> how do i install an con package on ubuntu 7.10?
[23:22] <dx9s_home> Blank_, yes.... those debs are down to fix a problem
[23:22] <danny> ico*
[23:22] <danny> icon*
[23:22] <Blank_> o =/
[23:22] <dwees> vladimir32tl: I noticed that new computers are more often than not having Firefox and Internet Explorer installed
[23:22] <desertc> xivanari: Consider purchasing a system with Ubuntu installed where they also support it.
[23:22] <Blank_> thanks
[23:22] <gogeta> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz2FqikcuSM
[23:22] <dx9s_home> Blank_, (pure guess) but I suspect it will be fixed well within 24 hours ;)
[23:23] <buttercups> Ely, System>Preferences>Appearance, font tab
[23:23] <dwees> cool
[23:23] <Blank_> oh ok
[23:23] <xivanari> desertc: no can do, am off to thailand technology free in 11 months
[23:23] <Ely> oh man yeah I just got it
[23:23] <Blank_> yeah, i was hoping the problem wasnt anything more serious
[23:23] <Ely> thanks!
[23:23]  * dx9s_home taunts winholes .. try THAT for turn around time ;)
[23:23] <Vladimir32tl> internet explorer is a joke! version 6 was slow and 7 is even worse - i use firefox always...
[23:23] <dwees> I need to upgrade my version of winbind...
[23:23] <ariane> hi. i'm trying to emulate N64 games with mupen64 and kamefu but neither of them is working. i downloaded roms, unzipped them in a folder and kamefu doesn't even see the files.  mupen64 sees the files but does nothing with them. could someone help me work this out please ?
[23:23] <xivanari> i am attempting to edit the file gdm.conf
[23:23] <xristian> let me tell u somethin. acer is selling nice laptops with linpus precharged
[23:23] <AceOne> jimmy the krack korn and i don't care
[23:23] <lounge-about> nickrud: the file is empty
[23:23] <xivanari> and it will let me edit it fine
[23:23] <xivanari> but it refuses to allow me to save it.
[23:23] <mariocesar_bo> Hello, I just install Ubuntu Server just few seconds ago ... I am getting Fatal Errors when I try to use sudo. like $sudo ls, outputs: sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf no such file or directory
[23:23] <ata4ix> how to change the resolution of console 80x25 to something like a 120x60 or something else, in process of loading of the system? after grub processing
[23:24] <andi5> xivanari: open it as root  (from the commandline: gksudo gedit the_file_name
[23:24] <mariocesar_bo> I am getting so much problems, anyone could helpme with this
[23:24] <toresn> how can i change the dpi settings in Ubuntu? I tried doing it by editing xorg.conf, but the lines seems to be ignored...
[23:24] <TD-Linux> ariane, a lot of emulators are designed to load the .zips
[23:24] <nickrud> lounge-about: damn, if you saw my correction, it was wrong also. This is the correct one: /var/lib/dpkg/info/opendchub.prerm , I had a p in place of the b
[23:24] <TD-Linux> and decompress them on the fly
[23:24] <xivanari> andi5:  how do i open it as root
[23:24] <ariane> is mupen64 one of them ?
[23:24] <xivanari> i dont understand command line in ubuntu
[23:24] <simplechat> gksudo gedit /
[23:24] <toresn> the default font size is just too big...
[23:24] <gogeta> isnt that a nice video
[23:24] <simplechat> xivanari, what don't you get?
[23:24] <danny> how do i install an icon package on ubuntu 7.10?
[23:25] <xivanari> a lot of things simplechat
[23:25] <nickrud> danny: open system->prefs->appearance, drag the icon package onto the window
[23:25] <desertc> xivanari: Why are you configuring gdm.conf?
[23:25] <xristian> any audio pro here this room? need to c0nvert wav to mp3.. that too difficult ?
[23:25] <xivanari> ok so i should put gksudo gedit gdm.conf?
[23:25] <andi5> ata4ix: do you mean the resolution of you consoles?  you could specify vesa numbers in your grub configuration (e.g. vga=791 choose 1024x768, iirc)
[23:25] <simplechat> xivanari, whats the first thing? is it just lack of experience or what?
[23:25] <lounge-about> nickrud: actually that file doesnt exist?
[23:25] <ariane> TD-Linux: anyway, mupen64 sees the files but it just doesn't do anything with them
[23:25] <danny> says file format is invalid
[23:25] <xivanari> i am configuring it because my font size is way off
[23:25] <xivanari> and i need to change the dpi stated within that file.
[23:26] <desertc> xivanari: You're complaining about it being too complicated, while you are trying to do super complicated and unnecessary actions.
[23:26] <xivanari> my title font size is bugged to fuck
[23:26] <Vladimir32tl> does ubuntu have some sort of ctrl-alt-del feature?
[23:26] <andi5> Vladimir32tl: feature?
[23:26] <tyler_> My Intel GMA 950 video card is running on a lower res than it's native res, how can i fix it?
[23:26] <xivanari> desertc:  it isnt unnecessarily complicated
[23:26] <xivanari> there is no other fix i have found for this
[23:26] <ata4ix> andi5, yes of console in text mode when system is starting the services...
[23:26] <xivanari> and ive been reading threads in forums on the subject for close to 3 hours now.
[23:26] <Vladimir32tl> well will it ever freeze to the point where i cant get out?
[23:26] <ata4ix> ou
[23:27] <desertc> xivanari: How did your fonts get all screwed up?
[23:27] <andi5> Vladimir32tl: the feature is that the system keeps quite reponsive even in loaded situations
[23:27] <ata4ix> and how to set 1280x1024?
[23:27] <xristian> acer is selling linux precharged on laptops
[23:27] <nickrud> lounge-about: it has to be, do ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/opendchub*
[23:27] <dx9s_home> Vladimir32tl, yes... which one are you interested in.. (and it's not an ubuntu exclusive) .. control-alt-backspace restart's X ... control-alt-F1 to text mode console then control+alt+del will reboot machine
[23:27] <andi5> ata4ix: choose your number from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions
[23:27] <kevin> i'm very happy with the "ehnahced zoom" plugin in compiz, its great
[23:27] <xivanari> desertc: it is a bug inherent in ubuntu gutsy that randomly appears on peoples machines for no (yet) identifyable reason
[23:27] <tyler_> My Intel GMA 950 video card is running on a lower res than it's native res, how can i fix it?
[23:27] <ata4ix> andi5, arigoto!
[23:28] <xivanari> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/141001
[23:28] <xivanari> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575978&highlight=huge+fonts+login
[23:28] <Vladimir32tl> dx9s_home: thanks
[23:28] <xivanari> http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=592123
[23:28] <xivanari> the list of links could go on
[23:28] <erUSUL> !fixres | tyler_
[23:28] <ubotu> tyler_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[23:28] <desertc> xivanari: Uninstall Compiz
[23:28] <erUSUL> tyler_: System>Admin>Screen and...
[23:28] <desertc> xivanari: Easy fix, right?
[23:28] <tyler_> !fixres gives me "event not found"
[23:29] <andi5> *g*
[23:29] <nickgoeshere> What distro should I use for a Torrent + UseNET server?  I have an old P3 800Mhz 256Mb of ram... I am new to linux and would like something with a GUI, I figured go Ubuntu, but will it be too much for my old system?
[23:29] <lounge-about> nickrud: ok ya, now it shows up...odd, i scrolled all the way to the top and it wasnt there...oh well now what
[23:29] <erUSUL> tyler_: see the msg from ubotu directed at you
[23:29] <nickrud> lounge-about: ok, put a copy of it on the pastebin, so I can read it.
[23:29] <dx9s_home> I think one thing that surprised me is the older (pre fusion) compiz work on an older dell (5150 w/ GeForce FX mobile) and upgrading to 7.10 + Compiz Fusion .. nada!
[23:30] <xristian> ever heard about how to convert wav to mp3 under ubuntu ?
[23:30] <xivanari> what is compiz and what does it do.
[23:30] <xivanari> will uninstalling it negatively effect my system?
[23:30] <lounge-about> k
[23:30] <tyler_> yeah read that thread but i can't find out what my refresh rates are
[23:30] <tyler_> suppsed to be
[23:30] <dx9s_home> xivanari, just less/no eye candy
[23:30] <desertc> xivanari: Just change the Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects
[23:31] <dx9s_home> *should* be able to remove compiz via something from command line like: "sudo apt-get remove compiz*"
[23:31] <lounge-about> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44819/
[23:31] <michom> hello, how do i extract a .bin file (it's a cd image but i need to extract it)
[23:31] <LiMaO> michom: convert it to ISO then mount it
[23:31] <grigora> I keep getting a 403 Forbidden error from  http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main libsmbclient 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1. Anyone knows what's up?
[23:32] <michom> LiMaO: just renaming?
[23:32] <LiMaO> michom: nope. you need a bin to iso converter
[23:32] <_hopex> does anyone have a BroadCom WiFi card? I'm using Ubuntu and can't make it work, with or without the restrictive driver. Can you help or write a link please?
[23:32] <dx9s_home> grigora, not exactly .. just they disabled access in order to fix something
[23:32] <nickrud> lounge-about: ok, sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/opendchub.prerm , replace set -e with exit 0 , save , and you're good to go
[23:33] <xivanari_> desertc: sounds like an easy fix, but what does compiz do?
[23:33] <xivanari_> i dont want to uninstall something that is an essential program on my machine
[23:33] <lns> WHO here uses iced-tea java (from the new DOKO repository) for Ubuntu Gutsy AMD64 and can verify it's stable?
[23:33] <dx9s_home> xivanari, should search YouTube for videos
[23:33] <lounge-about> nickrud: is nano a text editor?
[23:33] <danny> can somebody give me a nice mac os x icon theme for ubuntu 7.10
[23:33] <Blank_> sure is lounge-about
[23:34] <nickrud> lounge-about: yes, a good quick one
[23:34]  * dx9s_home laughs... yes nano is a text editor.. but still prefers good old vi
[23:34] <danny> !find mac icon
[23:34] <ubotu> Found: emacs-goodies-el, emacsen-common, gij, gij-4.2, libapache2-mod-macro (and 98 others)
[23:34] <nickrud> dx9s_home: erm, vim is evil, emacs is good, nano is always there ;)
[23:34] <LiMaO> am i the only one who likes pico over anything else?
[23:35] <dx9s_home> yeah.. well I actually prefer elvis over vim
[23:35] <nickrud> LiMaO: ooh, you still use that non free thing?
[23:35] <andi5> LiMaO: yes
[23:35] <kevin> does anyone know of a simple program to record video from a tv card to theora?
[23:35] <LiMaO> nickrud: never knew it isn't free hehe
[23:35] <lounge-about> nickrud: ok changed, lets see if it works
[23:36] <erUSUL> tyler_: and in System>Admin>Screen and...graphics?? (my system is spanish so maybe i got the name wrong)
[23:36] <LiMaO> actually nano looks exactly the same as pico
[23:36] <andi5> emacs users might like jed
[23:36] <hello_there> hi
[23:36] <nickrud> LiMaO: yeah, it was designed that way, even named for it
[23:36] <tyler_> yeah thats right
[23:36] <LiMaO> to say the truth, when i run 'pico' it says 'gnu nano' on top of the terminal
[23:36] <hello_there>  can someone show me a sample of /proc/kmsg
[23:37] <lounge-about> woot i think its working
[23:37] <dx9s_home> LiMaO, yes... pico and nano are same bin
[23:37] <raranp> been in vi too long to change, or want to
[23:37] <lounge-about> *high fives nickrud
[23:37] <LiMaO> dx9s_home: oh ok
[23:37] <tyler_> erUSL then what?
[23:37] <nickrud> lounge-about: yw, it's my speciality here :)
[23:37] <dx9s_home> /usr/bin/pico -> /bin/nano  as well as /usr/bin/nano -> /bin/nano
[23:37] <mosibfu> hi, i have a problem with gnome, gnome-failsafe session works fine, but normal session doesnt (it just stays orange after the login sound, no bars, nothing works..) anyone know how i can fix this?
[23:38] <lounge-about> nickrud: so why was that giving me the error? i like to understand why things dont work ;)
[23:38] <nickrud> dx9s_home: yeah, like I said, nano is always there
[23:38] <andi5> dx9s_home: the actual behavior might differ though, as it is with sh vs. bash ($0 is interpreted)
[23:38] <kevin> theora
[23:38] <Triplee23> stroyan: I am still having problems with net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships, any ideas?
[23:38] <nickrud> lounge-about: there was some issue with your dchub server, it wasn't reacting properly
[23:38] <dx9s_home> nickrud,  and with a "sudo apt-get install elvis" ... the king is back!
[23:38] <dx9s_home> heh
[23:38] <desertc> mosibfu: play around with your graphic modes
[23:38] <hello_there>  can someone show me a sample of /proc/kmsg ?
[23:38] <erUSUL> tyler_: set the desired resolution and refresh rate
[23:39] <lounge-about> nickrud: i mean, what did "set -e" break?
[23:39] <hello_there> nobody ?
[23:39] <nickrud> dx9s_home: one day when I was trying to be really slick ( /usr on it's own partition) having nano in /bin saved my machine. Pre live cd's, and I didn't have a toms around
[23:39] <fever84> hey... is there any faq on displaying text files from a bash script
[23:39] <stroyan> Triplee23: If the sysctl -p did set the value as you want, then perhaps it is not being run from /etc/init.d/procps.sh at startup.
[23:39] <pwnt-> how to setup firefox so it view any broadcast streaming with VLC in the browser. I want to make that a default. anybody know?
[23:39] <andi5> hello_there: why that?
[23:40] <mosibfu> desertc: graphic modes? everything worked fine till about 16 mins ago.. err wtf SLI is disabled and i didnt do a thing
[23:40] <hello_there> andi5 just curious
[23:40] <andi5> hello_there: sounds desastrous to me :-D
[23:40] <hello_there> why
[23:41] <mosibfu> desertc: omg that just might be it, sli is on (says nvidia-settings) but it also says second card has NV driver instead of nvidia
[23:41] <dx9s_home> nickrud, yeah... well personal history .. been using slackware (as well as recently ubuntu) since 0.99rXX days .. and it came with elvis...vim is enough different to make me prefer the older one (elvis) over vim ;)
[23:41] <fever84> when bash scripting how do i display text from a file ?
[23:41] <Triplee23> stroyan: I have added this line to sysctl.conf "net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships=4", but the value i reset to 1 every time I reboot.  What is procps.sh?
[23:41] <andi5> fever84: cat
[23:41] <pwnt-> hello. anybody know? :o
[23:41] <nickrud> dx9s_home: haven't really used elvis, I probably should at least become familiar with it. Never know what twisted person's machine I might be on ;p
[23:42] <dx9s_home> nickrud, elvis aims at a *classic* replacement for vi ... vim is (as it stands for) an improved version of vi. minor differences yes. personal preferences :P
[23:42] <pike_> fever84: what are you wanting to display? the whole file?
[23:43] <tenex> elvis was part of the minix project and is tiny for simplicity
[23:43] <tenex> not usability
[23:43] <dosnubbie> Hey I'm running auto updates right now and I keep getting a 403 error on all updates pertaining to Samba. Any Ideas?
[23:43] <pwnt-> how can I setup VLC to be the default player for my browser(firefox) as in if i click on a feed or streaming it opens it up with VLC
[23:43] <Triplee23> stroyan: when I run /etc/init.d/procps.sh the value is set correct. Any ideas?
[23:43] <lounge-about> omg dosnubbie so am i
[23:43] <fever84> pike_ yes a text file
[23:43] <heguru> dosnubbie: read the topic
[23:44] <nickrud> !sambabug | dosnubbie
[23:44] <ubotu> dosnubbie: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[23:44] <dosnubbie> lol
[23:44] <dx9s_home> dosnubbie, they took the files down while the folks are fixing an issue check back in within 24 hours
[23:44] <danny> i need help
[23:44] <pwnt-> danny: me too
[23:44] <dosnubbie> Okay thanks
[23:44] <stroyan> Triplee23: /etc/init.d/procps.sh is linked to /etc/rcS.d/S17procps.sh.  It is supposed to run at boot time.  It invokes sysctl -p to use the sysctl.conf settings.
[23:44] <lounge-about> woot, ok, ill update l8r, im off to get an XL Garbage Burrito from Rosa Maria's!!!
[23:44] <andi5> uh oh
[23:44] <digitalangel> I'm having an issue dual booting x64 and ubuntu.  For some reason when I boo tinto windows and reboot it overwrites grub, any ides on how to fix this?
[23:44] <pike_> fever84: say you had a servername in a log file and you wanted that line because the user asked for that names activity. you could MYVARIABLE=$(grep someservername /var/log/mahlog)   then later on youd echo server activity: $MYVARIABLE  <-- or someth'n
[23:45] <digitalangel> x64 = Windows XP x64
[23:45] <danny> i tryed using compiz on my desktop and its says The Composite extension is not available
[23:45] <lounge-about> nickrud: thx again, l8r
[23:45] <pike_> fever84: thats a really simple example
[23:45] <dx9s_home> digitalangel, sounds like windows being a pig and thinking it owns the entire machine ;) -- I really don't know ...
[23:45] <nickrud> pwnt-: install mozilla-plugin-vlc , and remove totem-mozilla
[23:45] <stroyan> Triplee23: It seems that either the procps.sh script is not run or the setting is being changed again after that runs.
[23:45] <pwnt-> nickrud: thanks! <3
[23:46] <Triplee23> stroyan: is S17procps.sh run at all runlevels. I use RL 2?
[23:46] <sushko> hello, I installed opensuse and now Ubuntu is not in Grub menu how to bring it back
[23:46] <fever84> pike i just put "cat $filename"
[23:46] <fever84> and that worked
[23:46] <pike_> lol ok
[23:46] <pwnt-> nickrud: i'm on add-ons TAB now. there is no plugin "totem-mozilla"
[23:46] <fever84> whats cat stand for ?
[23:46] <danny> i need help when i try to enable desktop effects it says this The Composite extension is not available
[23:46] <andi5> fever84: that is a command (/bin/cat)
[23:46] <andi5> fever84: conCATenate (files)
[23:46] <dx9s_home> conCATenate
[23:46] <nickrud> pwnt-: both of those are packages you install/uninstall in synaptic
[23:46] <dx9s_home> heh
[23:47] <pwnt-> nickrud: awesome
[23:47] <dx9s_home> andi5, :P
[23:47] <andi5> *g*
[23:47] <fever84> ah thats confusing to display a file
[23:47] <andi5> fever84: no, it is pretty handy
[23:47] <digitalangel> dx9s_home: I'm just so confused I have looked all over the place, I would guess there is something ont he windows side that is trying to take over, unfortunatly I don't have the faintest of that that might be.  Mind you I do not have a problem like this on the x86 version
[23:47] <dx9s_home> fever84, also can use "less"  as less is more than "more" ...
[23:47] <andi5> fever84: what do you try to achieve, btw?
[23:47] <stroyan> Triplee23: All of the links in /etc/rcS.d are supposed to be run at boot time.  It doesn't depend on the run level.
[23:48] <pwnt-> nickrud: I just saw that both of them were installed. mozilla-plugin-vlc and mozilla-totem
[23:48] <sushko> hello how to add ubuntu entry to grub menu in opensuse
[23:48] <pwnt-> I removed mozilla-totem
[23:48] <pwnt-> but now how do I tell firefo to use vlc instead
[23:48] <fever84> andi5: working on a small script to display a text file when i run it and then be able to edit it
[23:48] <nickrud> pwnt-: try about:plugins in mozilla, it should see them automatically
[23:48] <andi5> pwnt-: install mozilla-plugin-vlc?
[23:49] <nickrud> pwnt-: erm, firefox that is :)
[23:49] <pwnt-> andi5: I did, but it doesn't run the videos now.
[23:49] <pike_> pwnt-: you remove the totem plugin and install the vlc one
[23:49] <buttercups> danny, are you using the ATI proprietary driver, fglrx?
[23:49] <blueeyesmike> hi, when I updated the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic encounters a segfault and can't finish installing so every time I install something now I get a message about it. Any way to fix this?
[23:49] <dx9s_home> digitalangel, there might be something on getting grub to work with Windows (XP/Vista) x64 -- however I would of thunk both 32 and 64 dual booting (with grub boot manger or perhaps using NT boot manager to boot a linux os) would be the same (reguardless of 32/64)
[23:49] <pike_> pwnt-: or the mplayer one
[23:49] <pwnt-> pike_: I did. but doesn't run the streaming videos for me now
[23:49] <andi5> pwnt-: and you restarted firefox and checked the url "about:plugins"?
[23:49] <digitalangel> dx9s_home: it boots, just seems windows overwrites it
[23:49] <andi5> (that url contains a smilie, eek)
[23:49] <stevenrushing_> fresh instal of 7.10... got java running, all extra codecs and such, but no new apps... trying to get it to run on my nvidia 5500 with 256M, anyone mind walking me through it?  (i installed the nvidia drivers, not legacy and not new, but regular, and can't make it work)
[23:49] <dx9s_home> digitalangel, over writes what?
[23:49]  * nickrud feels an echo around here :)
[23:50] <dx9s_home> digitalangel, the MBR?
[23:50] <digitalangel> dx9s_home: Yup
[23:50] <digitalangel> dx9s_home: which takes out GRUB
[23:50] <pwnt-> andi5: yeah I did.
[23:50] <wolfprint> Question: I have Ubuntu v.7.10 w/gutsy and was wondering where if I have the file .conkyrc and if I dont have such file can you steer me in the right direction for modifing my desktop thanks (newvie)
[23:50] <stevenrushing_> master boot record  =)
[23:50] <digitalangel> sushko: how did you install SuSE?
[23:51] <dx9s_home> digitalangel, do you know if x64 Windows (vista or XP) is classic MBR or that new partition format (that Intel Macs also use, forgot the name)
[23:51] <sushko> digitalangel: from DVD
[23:51] <pwnt-> it all uses MPlayer looks like
[23:51] <andi5> fever84: you want to show a file F and be able to edit it? ... that is less, please go read "man less" and see the key "v" :-)
[23:51] <digitalangel> sushko: From everything I have understood it is the same,
[23:51] <nickrud> pwnt-: ok, remove mozilla-mplayer as well
[23:51] <fever84> thanks andi5 :)
[23:51] <stroyan> Triplee23: You could experiment with changing some other harmless setting in /etc/sysctl.conf and seeing if the new value is used.  That would point to the other value that you care about being overwritten somehow.  But I don't know where you would hunt for that happening.
[23:51] <digitalangel> sushko: did you do a full install like formatting and what not on a seperate drive
[23:51] <mosibfu> well that didnt work, how can i reset the "sessions" and startup scripts?
[23:51] <andi5> pwnt-: i am sorry, i did not follow the discussion, so i will shut up now :-)
[23:51] <digitalangel> dx9s_home: it uses the same thing
[23:51] <dx9s_home> gpt
[23:52] <pike_> wolfprint: open a terminal and type ls -a  you are in your home dir when you first open the terminal and that is where all the 'hidden' config files are. these are your profile config files and each user has em
[23:52] <sushko> digitalangel: no its on the same drive
[23:52] <nickrud> andi5: you chimed in at the right time, actually
[23:52] <digitalangel> sushko: diffrent partition?
[23:52] <Vladimir32tl> can you install compiz-fusion with add/remove programs or synaptic package manager
[23:52] <pike_> wolfprint: of show hidden in file manager
[23:52] <mosibfu> problem: i played with sessions, and can only get into failsafe gnome now.. how do i fix/reset it?
[23:52] <sushko> I used the ubuntu CD to reinstall grub however the opensuse grub menu got reinstalled
[23:52] <pike_> wolfprint: or
[23:52] <dx9s_home> digitalangel, I wish I knew .. I try to avoid dual booting ;)
[23:52] <dx9s_home> well
[23:52] <desertc> !grub
[23:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:52] <dx9s_home> digitalangel, try to have windows on any machine for that manner
[23:53] <dx9s_home> ;)
[23:53] <mosibfu> !sessions
[23:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sessions - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:53] <sparkydog> im having trouble getting online with my ubuntu
[23:53] <desertc> !network
[23:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:53] <sparkydog> its not wireless, its just a standard plug in ethernet cord
[23:54] <digitalangel> sushko: alright here is what I am going to suggest Sushko, open up a terminal and cd bak to /
[23:54] <ganjist> !Seen ara-fat32
[23:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen ara-fat32 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:54] <sushko> yes
[23:54] <andi5> sparkydog: does a dhcp server serve your network?
[23:54] <pwnt-> andi5: can I send to you a screenshot?
[23:54] <ganjist> is eierless something god?
[23:54] <kazol2> cafuego: Are you there?
[23:55] <andi5> pwnt-: of course
[23:55] <pwnt-> nickrud: also you, can I send to you a screenshot?
[23:55] <digitalangel> sushko: then enter your boot directory, and you shoudl see the kernels
[23:55] <menko> hi, can someone confirm for me if there is an unofficial way to use the live cd to ugrade from 7.04 to 7.10?
[23:55] <sparkydog> i dont know... how do i find out?
[23:55] <cafuego> kazol2: Kinda, in the middle of work.
[23:55] <kazol2> cafuego: It still doesn't work in x32.
[23:55] <mosibfu> problem: gnome doesnt load past the orange screen+sound (after login) no bars nothing is show, mouse works, failsafe gnome works fine.
[23:55] <dxdt> Anyone know of a program that would be an open source version of melodyne uno.  A friend has challenged me to find one.
[23:56] <isforinsects_> I need help setting up backuppc, I can't seem to log in as admin, when I log in I don't have admin control.
[23:56] <digitalangel> sushko: now do you have 7 or 9 files in that directory?
[23:56] <isforinsects_> anyone know the program that can help?
[23:56] <Vladimir32tl> is it possible to install compiz-fusion from add/remove programs?
[23:56] <menko> dxdt: move your ~/.gnome* to a backup location
[23:56] <dxdt> menko: not for me, you mean someone else
[23:56] <jedix> can someone help me with a samsung ml-1210 printer?
[23:56] <nickrud> pwnt-: take your browser to http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger/test.html test some codecs
[23:56] <jedix> it refuses to print
[23:56] <jdhore> My gutsy install is freezin at 90% (Detecting Hardware), how can i fix this?
[23:56] <menko> mosibfu: move your ~/.gnome* to a backup location
[23:56] <andi5> pwnt-: does vlc start up the stream if you start it from the command line with the url as parameter?
[23:56] <pwnt-> you see, this is a live stream, after 30mins there will be an online live stream for me there, a Match will be play in this video. but I don't like this kind of video. with this I can only see it this size. or see it as a full screen.
[23:56] <jdhore> *freezing
[23:56] <jedix> jdhore: try disabling acpi during boot
[23:57] <Tailsfan> Do you guys still help with Breezy Users?
[23:57] <jdhore> jedix, how would i go about doing that?
[23:57] <pwnt-> andi5: no vlc doesn't start
[23:57] <mosibfu> menko: ty, will do
[23:57] <blueeyesmike> problem: when I updated the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic encounters a segfault and can't finish installing so every time I install something now I get a message about it. Any way to fix this?
[23:57] <Tailsfan> Because Breezy is teh only system I can use on my Compaq Deskpro
[23:57] <sushko> digitalangel: yes there are a couple
[23:57] <jedix> jdhore: during boot specify acpi=off
[23:57] <andi5> pwnt-: vlc does not start at all? ;-) .. it should really print _something_
[23:57] <nickrud> pwnt-: video in browsers is problematic sometimes... and maybe andi5 knows more about it than I
[23:58] <digitalangel> sushko: I need to know how many files, as to give you some privacy to how many kernels you have on yoru system is the number 7
[23:58] <pike_> pwnt-: can you run firefox from a terminal and watch messages there ?
[23:58] <jdhore> jedix, thanks, thought it was something like that
[23:58] <raranp> tailsfan, you really running breezy?
[23:58] <roks> where are acc
[23:58] <andi5> pwnt-: or check ~/.xsession-errors
[23:58] <roks> :P
[23:58] <roks> loolz
[23:58] <roks> :)
[23:58] <pwnt-> nickrud: your website I clicked it. and when i clicked "Quicktime" Old codec. it shows the same as my screenshot, the (No video) in the middle like that
[23:58] <kazol2> Can someone help me with bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[23:58] <Tailsfan> Yeah rar
[23:58] <jedix> jdhore: not sure it it will help, but it si something to try
[23:58] <Tailsfan> It's the ONLY Ubuntu that runs good on my Deskpro
[23:58] <kelvie> How does ubuntu make sudo/pam return immediately on a SIGINT?
[23:59] <sushko> digitalangel: I cannot identify the kernels from the other things...
[23:59] <kelvie> a custom patch? or a setting somewhere?
[23:59] <zeno> hey, trying to install ubuntu over an older install of fedora core 3; have 3 hard drives... one ATA, two SATA. My BIOS is set to boot from the first SATA drive (the newer kernels call it sdb), but I *think* the Ubuntu installer is changing the boot record of the PATA drive (now called sda, used to be hdg)
[23:59] <jedix> can someone help me with a samsung ml-1210 printer?  I've added it in kde but it doesn't print :(
[23:59] <digitalangel> sushko: hence why I asked you for the number of files
[23:59] <kelvie> or is that question too advanced for this channel? :/
[23:59] <zeno> when I boot I just get a grub prompt and it can't find my /boot/menu.lst
[23:59] <pwnt-> andi5: I'll be back in 15mins, will you be here?
[23:59] <zeno> er, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:59] <andi5> pwnt-: yep
[23:59] <pwnt-> ok brb
[23:59] <sushko> 30
[23:59] <kazol2> Can someone help me with bcm43xx-fwcutter? My system freezes after configuring it.
[23:59] <pike_> zeno: well, what did you do to it?