[00:00] oh they are, I'll look for way to add it in then [00:02] man, idk how to get my heatsink off [00:03] unless it is a crappy one there should be a tab on one side or the other to stick a screwdriver in [00:03] push down and out [00:03] that would depend on how it got on... Some evil manfuacturers attach the heatsink to the cpu with thermal glue [00:04] yeah that sucks too [00:04] dell is notorious for it [00:04] as is compaq and hp on their p4 systems [00:05] dude, this thing has melted white stuff on it [00:05] so do you think the cpu is fried? [00:06] thats the thermal paste [00:07] you'll want to wipe that stuff off of the proc and heatsink and apply new [00:07] i dont need it, its got the metal clasp for it [00:07] you DO need it [00:08] inspect the proc too for discoloration and obvious burn marks [00:08] what is it needed for? [00:08] that provides a medium for the heat to go through [00:08] it is needed because the heatsink and cpu is not perfectly flat, and the heatsink compound fills the air-gap [00:08] otherwise the heatsink is pretty much useless [00:09] air is horrible as heat conductor [00:09] yup yup [00:10] lol, well i guess i'm f*cked cuz i dont have any of it [00:11] you can usually get some at the local hardware store for like a couple dollars.. [00:11] well i shouldnt have wiped it off lol, i cant get to a hardware store or a pc shop atm [00:13] is this a desktop computer? [00:13] lol [00:13] yes [00:13] yeah a messed up one [00:14] you dont have any around the house? thermal paste i mean [00:14] get a plastic storage container and use some vegetable oil then ^^ [00:15] nope. no thermal paste [00:15] lol [00:16] :| the search 'improvised thermal compound' comes up with a lot of information about bombs... I think the dhs is coming after me... [00:16] if you could figure out how that would work... maybe... is vegatable oil conductive? [00:18] evil_tech: no vegetable oil is not conductive, and its used in foods to evenly cook things because it disperses heat [00:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ8L1Prl6tk [00:18] :/ but how, its not thick enough and i dont have anyway of keeping it there [00:19] you stick the whole internal system in it [00:19] i know that its a good conductor of heat [00:19] kinda hard for me lol [00:20] ***contemplates vegetable cooling his FX53 [00:20] heavenlyblade101: just don't stick the power supply in there think that will cause problems [00:20] lol [00:20] i dont plan on doing that [00:21] you could take the board out of the case and put it in a tub and have everything else octopused off it [00:21] okay [00:21] nah, i'd rather get it working first lol [00:22] heavenlyblade101: just get the thermal lube :P [00:22] theres some left on the heatsink, i wonder if its enough [00:23] is it still wet and liquidy? [00:24] heavenlyblade101: and whatever you do don't inhale, ingest, or touch it very deadly [00:24] use a paste of petroleum jelly and talcum powder [00:24] zoredache: how exactly does that work? [00:24] it isn't great, but he might have it in his house... [00:25] heavenlyblade101: I'm just kidding kay should be okay to touch it.. [00:25] the talc will keep the petrolum jelly from running when it gets hot... the petrolum jelly will transfer the heat [00:25] yes after all these years its still liquidy slightly [00:25] ronnie: or at least this web site says... [00:25] zoredache: petroleum jelly hmm would that be like vaseline? [00:26] i think vaseline is similar but adds stuff [00:29] vaseline is petroleum jelly... [00:29] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmPm-YV9vdA&feature=related [00:30] i dont think Vaseline is just plain ole petroleum jelly though. [00:31] The Vaseline company does have one product that is pure petroem jelly... they have other products that include lotions and other stuff [00:35] ah ok [00:35] but as a temporary hack he could probably get away with whatever he has in his cupboard... [00:36] meh [00:39] i have so many p3 i could give you...lol shop full of em [00:40] too bad ur so far away [00:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8shVDvMdo4&feature=related << i think youd have to remove the fans [00:43] nevermind [00:43] they said exactly that [00:44] y remove the fans tho? [00:45] they cant turn through something that viscous [00:45] so theyll end up burning out and could cause a fire [00:45] thats my guees [00:45] guess* [00:47] i suppose, so i wonder if theres enough thermal paste on my heatsink [00:48] well worse case scenario you fry it [00:51] yeah i guess, its already pretty bad anyway [00:56] holy crap it booted! [00:56] lol [00:56] *keeps fingers crossed [00:57] yay newegg's shipped my ram [00:58] hello anyone [00:58] hello single person [00:58] heh.. [00:58] I deserved that :D [00:59] may I ask a technical question? [00:59] !ask [00:59] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [00:59] :P [00:59] ok, I have a niggle with XMMS and Xubuntu... [01:00] I tried Fluxbuntu and XMMS keeps all the path in memory... [01:00] but with Xubuntu it only stores about 4 or 5 levels [01:00] any ideas how to change this? [01:01] cos I store my MP3s on a network drive and it's a real pita to have to go from root all the time [01:03] you mean like a command history buffer? [01:03] maybe I should have prefixed with "I just moved from Windows"..... [01:03] so "Wha'?" [01:04] here's the deal... [01:04] I have my remote drives in mnt... [01:05] are you playing songs one at a time? [01:05] so the path owuld be home/name/mnt///my documents/mp3/spoken workd/comedy/.mp3....... [01:06] BUT, when I go to put in another file I have to fo from my documents... [01:06] mhh, no screenshotplugin for FF in linux :( [01:06] may I cry ? [01:06] it doesn't seem to keep any more [01:06] MayBoy: yes [01:06] FoulOleRon: why not add all of them to the playlist? [01:06] FoulOleRon: just a though, why not create a symlink in your documents folder? [01:06] Spud: cos I change my mind all the time... [01:06] ache.... how would I do that? [01:07] evil_tech, in you lap ? [01:07] *your [01:07] ... but Fluxbuntu DID keep them in the path.... [01:07] no it must stay contained to a bubble 1 foot radius of your person [01:07] so if you wanted a link to your mp3s in your home ~/ the start a terminal and type cd [01:07] what does Xfs do different to Fluxbox? [01:07] xfs? [01:07] err... [01:08] from there do an 'ln -s /mnt/blah.here/there.whatever/mp3s mp3_folder' [01:08] thought fluxbuntu used Rox Filer [01:08] forgot what Xubuntu uses [01:08] Thunar [01:08] as file manager [01:08] XMMS acts different between flux and x [01:09] of course you could also use something like vlc, which includes then xfce open dialog box. [01:09] I'm determined to find a version of Linux that does what I want it to!!! [01:09] on the xfce open dialog box you can create shortcuts to folders [01:09] i love vlc.. wanna marry it [01:09] zoredache: yeah.... VLC keeps the full path [01:10] awww.... Tits :( [01:11] I can drag and drop from Thunar from a mounted drive, but it's still a pain with XMMS [01:11] FoulOleRon: use bmp [01:11] FoulOleRon: or audacious [01:11] hmmmm [01:11] I just like the way XMMS works.. [01:11] FoulOleRon: they are identical to xmms except for fixed file open dialog [01:11] I've been a Gates-Slave too long :( [01:12] ahhh... [01:12] soooooo... [01:12] a possibility [01:12] FoulOleRon: you used to use Winamp in windows huh? [01:12] gates slave lol [01:12] ^^ [01:12] no, I abandoned Winamp ages ago... [01:12] in Windows (i.e. THIS machine) I use QCD [01:12] do you smile like this ^_^ or this? :) [01:12] :) [01:12] QCD? whats that. I like media player classic when im in windows [01:13] QCD is Quintessential [01:13] I use VLC and QCD for Windows... [01:14] heavenlyblade101: any luck with that computer? [01:18] well, it hasent crashed yet [01:18] so..... [01:18] idk [01:19] :/ went to open the terminal and the os rebooted [01:21] hmm [01:21] goes to the text base then the log in [01:23] then reboots? [01:24] just back to the log in [01:24] so X is crashing [01:25] ?? [01:26] xserver might be crashing. if the computer isnt rebooting and you just go back to the login screen then the xserver might be crashing [01:26] you could login on a different tty and reconfigure x to see if that fixes it [01:27] i have no idea what you said lol im a total n00b [01:27] ok you at the login screen [01:27] ? [01:28] no hold on [01:29] k [01:29] at the graphical login? [01:29] yeah [01:30] ok now you can press CTRL + ALT + F3 should get you to a text login [01:30] or F4 through F6 for that matter [01:31] got it [01:31] logged in? [01:31] *runs to login [01:31] k [01:32] once logged in type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [01:32] k [01:33] wht now? [01:34] if its crashing *after* you go from the graphical login trying to enter the desktop its most likely you have the wrong session setup [01:34] perhaps its set for a session that doesn't exist anymore [01:35] its crashing after i log in and i can run ff but when i run terminal it crashes [01:35] hmm [01:35] your using xfce and when you run terminal it crashes... [01:35] where are you running this "terminal" thing from? [01:36] the applications menu [01:36] lol [01:36] probably Applications -> Accessories ->Terminal [01:36] exactly [01:36] try alt f2 then xfce4-terminal [01:36] does that give different result? [01:37] wait. i'm at the text based login and reconfiguring xserver. [01:37] or better yet enter "xterm" for a terminal through the xserver [01:37] evil_tech: could he have really screwed up xfce terminal configurations? [01:37] seems that way [01:38] like set it for undefined color or enormous scrollback... something to make the x server die [01:38] dont know how though the system hasnt worked very well [01:38] I know maybe he has terminal transparency that his gfx card doesn't support! [01:39] but isnt transparency set system wide and not per application [01:39] though we have suspected his onboard vid to e bad [01:39] could there be memory errors with the dedicated video ram? [01:39] dude, i'm running it as it was installed. [01:40] heavenlyblade101: kk [01:40] how do i get to graphical login from text [01:40] heavenlyblade101: ctrl alt f7 [01:40] that is if there is current graphical session [01:40] k got it [01:41] i'll try terminal agian [01:41] try xterm instead I doubt it will fail [01:41] nope [01:41] perhaps then you can diagnose it easier [01:41] back to login? [01:41] how do i try xterm [01:41] alt f2 then type xterm [01:41] while your on your desktop [01:41] k [01:42] k now what? [01:42] dmesg list anything odd? [01:42] whats the difference between xterm and terminal other than one is black with white text and the other is the inverse [01:42] nothings listed. [01:42] evil_tech: you can change colors for both, difference is xterm runs at different application layer built into x server as a default terminal. (because of such you can't copy or paste and it has certain display limitations) [01:43] ah i see [01:43] so i use this instead of terminal? [01:44] evil_tech: how about he evokes xfce4-terminal from xterm and pipes its error messages to separate file, how would he word such command? [01:44] hmm let me try it [01:44] think its "xfce4-terminal >> error.txt" [01:45] what html editor was just so good for Linux ? I forgot the name [01:45] heavenlyblade101: yeah you can use that, but its odd your having glitch with other terminal [01:45] well xterm wont let me run xfce-terminal [01:45] :/ [01:45] says the command isnt found [01:45] MatBoy: dunno I use kompozer [01:45] MatBoy: and no its not kde based [01:46] ronnie, that is the one :) [01:46] how do i create /dev/video1 [01:46] MatBoy: think eclipse has html support and if you want something lite there is Scite [01:46] ronnie, I knew it was somehing with "making it" in the name [01:46] so i guess i'm stuck using xterm? [01:46] yeah until someone can come up with why terminal is hosed [01:46] k thanks for the help guys [01:46] ronnie, but compozer is better I thought ? [01:47] and how to fix it without a terminal lol [01:47] heavenlyblade101: yeah trying to recall how to export application errors to a text file [01:47] got to route stderr to a txt file [01:47] i think [01:47] >> right? [01:47] really not liking not having my linux bible [01:48] heavenlyblade101: try what I said earlier see if it creates an error.txt file with some output [01:48] k.. [01:48] how do i create /dev/video1 [01:49] cd /dev && touch video1 [01:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal/+bug/114124 [01:49] I suppose...? [01:49] Launchpad bug 114124 in xfce4-terminal "Xubuntu 7.04 xserver crashes when launching terminal (dup-of: 91849)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [01:49] Launchpad bug 91849 in xfce "i810 + xorg = xfce crashes when opening terminal" [Unknown,Confirmed] [01:49] take a look at that [01:49] crashed it again [01:50] I had an i810 card before but it seemed to work until I did something then I had similar problem [01:50] whats an i810? [01:50] I gave up on it though and put blackbox on there because only had 64mb ram [01:50] chipset [01:51] ive had this problem with 6.10 and 7.04 now that i recall [01:51] i810 is an intel integrated card driver [01:51] hmmm [01:51] but i fixed it by reconfiguring x and setting color depth to 16 (was a bunch of Thinkpad 770's) [01:51] I think one of my friends uses that with ubuntu [01:52] evil_tech: I always set mine to 16 guess that's why I wasn't whining about that issue on forums lol [01:52] ever since then on older machines i set the depth to 16, most people cant tell the difference any way [01:53] evil_tech: the human eye doesn't support that many colors yet bottlenecks with the few brainsquishies :) [01:53] can u set colour depth without exiting the graphical desktop? [01:53] dunno [01:54] you could edit xorg.conf and set it that way [01:54] heavenlyblade101: mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf change 24 to 16 then ctrl alt backspace to restart x server only (like rebooting only graphical portion of system) [01:54] heavenlyblade101: does it take a long while to boot? [01:55] that mousepad thing a command for xterm? [01:55] no its a text editor [01:55] lol k [01:55] you need to start it with root privledges [01:56] hey, that command earlyer made an error.txd [01:57] heavenlyblade101: what does it say? [01:57] nothing :/ [01:57] wow gksu is really really slow [01:57] yeah I probably worded it wrong or it crashed too fast [01:57] what did i miss [01:58] netham45 joined and flicked you off evil_tech [01:58] that's all [01:58] netham45: :D [01:58] oh so not much :D [01:58] has he successfully edited xorg.conf? [01:58] by he i mean heavenlyblade101 [02:00] no i didnt suceed, couldnt write to file [02:00] cause you werent root [02:01] how do i become root? [02:01] open up xterm [02:01] sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [02:02] or you can do ALT + F2 then gksu mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf [02:02] k in xterm === [1]Netham45 is now known as Netham45 [02:04] sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [02:04] wow its 6pm already [02:05] got to go pick up the girlfriend [02:05] k ttyl [02:05] good luck heavenlyblade101. worse case you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again and itll ask you for color depth. set it to 16 then restart x [02:05] k [02:05] ttfn [02:06] how do i reboot xserve again lol [02:06] ctrl alt backspace? [02:06] yes [02:07] k, now lets see if it fixed terminal [02:07] evil_tech: dude just change the config file value for xorg lol [02:07] yep, and evil tech is gon [02:07] ah that ass always leaving when I say something to him rofl [02:08] it worked, thanks guys. i guess maybe tommarrow i'll try to get beryl going [02:08] rofl [02:08] heavenlyblade101: compiz you mean, beryl merged with latest compiz [02:08] brb [02:09] back [02:10] so whats different about it now? [02:10] seems more stable I guess [02:10] do you run emule? or amule? [02:11] nah I usually use frostwire [02:11] whats that? torrent or p2p? [02:12] p2p, usually on deluge for torrenting [02:12] it wont read edk2 links tho :/ thats what i need emule for [02:13] might want to check www.sourceforge.net see if you can find a certain client you like then [02:14] i guess emule cant run on linux [02:15] if you don't want it to, don't know why though. Is it rather buggy usually? [02:15] heavenlyblade101: could try gnutella think its in ubuntu repositories see if it can read those links [02:16] ubuntu repositories? [02:16] yeah applications > system > synaptic [02:16] lot of programs there you can install [02:16] use the search function [02:17] nothing came up [02:17] try reload then and check your sources [02:17] perhaps you don't have all the repositories marked [02:17] reload? [02:18] k nvm [02:19] it worked? [02:20] no [02:20] :/ [02:20] eh I'm on amule right now [02:20] how do u get it? [02:21] application> system>software sources check the boxes there then pull up synaptic and hit reload then search amule [02:21] mark to install and click apply then your done [02:22] k thanks, reloading [02:23] i wonder whats up with this comp, it occasionally gets a bios, and now once i get it booted its good [02:24] but its getting it booted. i think its the mobo but i cant afford a new one [02:24] reloading doesn't mean reboot xD [02:24] no i know, just kinda wondering aloud [02:24] lol [02:25] what do you mean by mobo? [02:25] ohh motherboard [02:25] lol [02:25] have you tried linuxbiox yet? [02:25] linuxbios I mean [02:26] no, never heard of it [02:31] is there anyway to install xubuntu if there is no cd drive? [02:35] network boot [02:35] idk how tho [02:36] hmm okay.. i was trying to install 7.10 tonight and the cd drive stopped working after i found out that i only have 128mb ram on the comp so it didnt work [02:36] usb possible? [02:37] somehow while playing around with wireless stuff I accidently got two nm-applets starting up. Do you know where I might look to fix that? [02:37] nope [02:38] hi guys [02:39] hi [02:39] how do i format a NTFS drive via Xubuntu? [02:39] gparted? [02:39] tried that? [02:39] xnyone got prob with xfmedia when playing video? [02:40] Don't know that you can heavenlyblade101, what are you trying to accomplish? [02:40] mine can't play videos; tried .avi ang .ogm [02:40] it hanged [02:40] even .pls [02:42] anyone know y? [02:42] snerfu: trying to make a 10 gb drive usable without rebooting, long story as to why i cant reboot [02:43] heavenlyblade101, it needs to be visible from windows? [02:43] no, i want to remove windows [02:44] windows is on the drive i want to format [02:45] heavenlyblade101, what partition is it on, the whole drive? [02:45] the whole drive [02:45] i have a 6 gb running linux adn a 10 gb running windows [02:45] sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/something1 [02:46] usb drive? [02:46] what do u mean? [02:46] you can do it point and click with gparted tho [02:46] is it an internal drive? [02:46] yeah its internal [02:47] is it ide or sata? [02:47] idk.. lol its a maxtor [02:48] type "mount" and tell me what your partition says for / [02:48] true umarzuki, but this might be a good learning experience for him for the future. [02:49] agreed [02:49] sorry lol i dont think it gives me info on the drive. but i feel like a MAJOR n00 [02:49] b [02:50]