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Sam1337Somebody told me that Ubuntu means "can't install Debian" is this true?00:00
Dr_willisSam1337,  its african for Friends I think.. check ubuntu.org for  the real info00:00
Sam1337I've been pronouncing Ubuntu wrong for ages and I've only just found out how to pronounce it lol00:01
jdongSam1337: wrongly ;-)00:02
Dr_willisLike all the ways people in the stores Pronounce 'linux'00:02
jdongSam1337: and lol @ that explanation of Ubuntu :)00:02
BluesKajshaffy, ubuntu uses the gnome desktop , kubuntu uses the kde desktop , but both have the same name feisty or gutsy or whatever release and use the same 'kernel"00:02
Sam1337I pronounce Linux as lye nucks is that right?00:03
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Dr_willisLinux is all about 'Layers and legos' :)00:03
Dr_willisLayers of legos even..00:03
jdongSam1337: Linus himself pronounces it with a soft i, linn-ux00:03
Dr_williswhere lego = bits of software00:03
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shaffyBluesKaj: thanks for the clarification.00:03
Dr_willisLynn-uxx00:03
Dr_willis :)00:03
BluesKajSam1337, no it's like lynn -ucks00:03
shaffyso can i install openoffice2.3 from adept-manager?00:03
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Dr_willis!info open-office00:04
ubotuPackage open-office does not exist in gutsy00:04
ardchoilleshaffy: Are you on Gutsy?00:04
Sam1337Why do so many people call it lynn -icks?00:04
Dr_willisLinix ? :)00:04
purpleposeidonI got 403 forbidden errors when I tried to update! :O00:04
BluesKajyeah, heard that too00:05
Sam1337Because they are stupid I think.00:05
Daisuke-Idoa step below Minix?00:05
jdongSam1337: because it rhymes with Unix and Minix better00:05
Daisuke-Idopurpleposeidon: so did the rest of us, calm down.00:05
* purpleposeidon calms down00:05
ardchoillepurpleposeidon: Lots of folks are getting the same error00:05
jdong!sambabug00:05
ubotuA defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.00:05
managerhi00:05
* Daisuke-Ido hands purpleposeidon a cup of tea00:05
shaffyardchoille: i'm not sure how i find out if i am on Gutsy00:05
ardchoilleshaffy: lsb_release -a | grep Release00:06
purpleposeidonHmmm, but I can't upgrade the rest of the stuff. :/00:06
paulti didn't get 403 error, but some message about failed dependencies00:06
shaffyardchoille: it just says release 7.0400:06
PriceChild!sambabug | pault00:06
ubotupault: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.00:06
shaffyand that no LSB modules are available00:06
Daisuke-Idoshaffy: then you're on feisty00:07
purpleposeidonSo, uhm, why don't the devs just hide the updates?00:07
ardchoilleshaffy: 7.10 or 7.04?00:07
jeremepurpleposeidon: add --fix-missing to your upgrade as the error suggests00:07
shaffy7.0400:07
jeremepurpleposeidon: that will make it ignore the offending packages00:07
ardchoilleshaffy: Given the size of OO.o, if you want 2.3, I'd recommend upgrading to Gutsy. But, it's your call.00:08
purpleposeidonbah, --ignore-missing would be a better option name! :P00:08
* Dr_willis pokes Minataku00:08
jeremepurpleposeidon: well aren't you just a picky one today00:08
ardchoilleshaffy: However, do not attempt to use gutsy sources in Feisty, that is dangerous00:08
shaffyardchoille: what's the advantage to Gutsy?00:08
jeremeshaffy: updated packages00:09
ardchoilleshaffy: I haven't seen any yet00:09
jeremeardchoille: new file browser00:09
Dr_willisGutsy is da latest and greatest. :)00:09
ardchoillewell, other than newer versions of apps00:09
Sam1337Gutsy has compiz fusion :D00:09
Dr_willisnew kernel, new drivers, new porn,, err.. scratch that...00:09
ardchoilleSam1337: I wouldn't call that an "advantage"00:09
Sam1337Gutsy supports drive encryption :D00:09
ardchoilleDr_willis: hahaha00:09
jeremethe addition of the Dolphin file browser is a big difference00:09
purpleposeidonjereme: No, I'm being practical. "--fix-missing" sounds like it would do something else00:10
Dr_willisjereme,  and its easy to FIX that :)00:10
jeremecompiz runs like dog crap with KDE.... last I tried00:10
Dr_willis!dolphin00:10
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.00:10
Dr_willisI have no real issues with compiz. (a few little bugs)00:10
jeremeDr_willis: I don't need to fix it.. I like dolphin better00:10
* Dr_willis writes a perscription for jereme's head injury.00:10
Dr_willis:)00:10
paultpurpleposeidon: i agree, but do you really want to help the user? :)00:10
ardchoillehahaha00:10
shaffycan someone tell me how to upgrade to Gutsy then?00:10
shaffy!info Gutsy00:10
ardchoille!upgrade00:11
Greenerymy X keep oepning vesa driver although xorg.conf was set to driver nvidia. Any idea?00:11
Dr_willisGreenery,  how do you know its using the vesa driver?00:11
ubotuPackage gutsy does not exist in gutsy00:11
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes00:11
jeremeGreenery: get an nvidia card ;)00:11
Sam1337!dstats gutsy00:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dstats gutsy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:11
jereme!vista00:11
ubotuvista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org00:11
Greenerywell support from nvidia said so00:12
Sam1337Lol Vista has capatalism written all over it.00:12
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jereme!capitalism00:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about capitalism - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:13
Dr_willisAnarchyLinux00:13
jeremehaha00:13
jereme!communism00:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about communism - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:13
Sam1337Jereme please pm the bot instead of spamming up the chat.00:13
jeremeSam1337: my apologies00:14
jeremejust feeling a little loopy late on a friday00:14
Sam1337It's Saturday.00:14
jeremethat's debatable00:14
Sam1337It's been Saturday for nearly 15 minutes now.00:14
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Greeneryi was trying to use the proprietery beta driver from nvidia for my 8800GT but X won't load dues to GLX error00:14
jeremeand it will be saturday in 7 hours and 45 minutes00:14
jeremeGMT man00:15
shaffyso is Gutsy officially released for kubuntu?00:15
jeremeshaffy: yup.. has been for a bit now00:15
Sam1337Why anybody would use any timezone other than gmt on a public irc channel is beyond my understanding.00:15
shaffyjereme: it's just weird that my system didn't ask me to upgrade to00:15
shaffy*to it00:16
jeremeSam1337: well the simple fact is that the sun isnt' down, and I don't work nights or weekends, and therefor it is not saturday morning for me00:16
jeremeshaffy: see the upgrade link in the topic00:17
BluesKajSam1337, most ppl like their time locally :)00:17
jeremeSam1337: though it would satisfy you if I used GMT, the other some odd thousand people in my life wouldn't so much appreciate the sudden change00:17
jeremeso forgive me if I don't adjust for a channel full of people I don't know00:18
jeremeand... scene.00:19
MilitantPotatobravo.00:19
* jereme bows00:19
Greeneryanyone with Kubuntu and 8800GT here can use the latest beta driver from nvidia without any problem?00:20
Dr_willisI got an 8800 - but dont use the latest beta. :)  sorry00:20
Greeneryu got the GT?00:21
Dr_willisi got a gtsxxx :)00:21
Dr_willisand yes its called a XXX :P00:21
Greeneryheh okies00:21
shaffyjereme: thanks.  i'm on my way.00:21
Dr_willisI think.. it may be a gtxxx00:21
GreeneryXFX card eh?00:22
Dr_willisOf course theres the new 8800's comming oyut soon.00:22
Sam1337The 8800gt looks well good. I hope that nvidia makes a new driver compatable with it and while its at it they should open the source of their driver to.00:22
Dr_willisyep. they had the best reviews at the time.00:22
Dr_willisI wouldent hold your breath for the OpenSource part. :P00:22
Greenerythey've just released the beta driver for the 8800GT card, but seems like my X won't load after installing it00:22
Sam1337Is the fglrx driver open sourced yet?00:23
Dr_willisSam1337,  not that i am aware of.00:23
jeremeopen sores00:23
Dr_willisi thought they were working on some licensing changes.. but i did not think they were going opensourced.00:24
Dr_willisBut it will take a LOT of changes befor i ever buy an ati card again.00:24
Rukusi have two xorg processes.  any suggestions?00:24
jeremesupposedly the newest ATI card is a big change00:24
MilitantPotatoRukus: using the new ATI drivers I take it?00:24
Rukusno00:24
Rukususing propritary with fglrx00:24
MilitantPotatobuilt from the ati source drivers?00:25
Sam1337Ati cards are slower, noisier and hotter.00:25
MilitantPotato8.43.2?00:25
Dr_willisIt will take more then just a few changes to get ATI back into my good graces. heh00:25
Rukusbuilt with the drivers that came with gutsy00:25
MilitantPotatoAh, no idea then.00:25
Rukus8.43.2 are suppsoed to be better are they not?00:25
Rukusto fix my xorg problem i heard00:25
Rukusbut, i dont wanna get into something from one small thread00:26
Rukusand of 512mb of ram, ubuntu uses it all00:27
BluesKajSam1337, the restricted ati driver in gutsy works better on the low -end onboards , the 8.43 driver works best on higher end ati seperate graphics cards00:27
Rukusis that normal?00:27
Sam1337BluesKaj so the 8.43 is open source then?00:28
JavaManHi All - anyone seen problems with update -  like won't complete?00:28
Greeneryyup wait for the next update to fix that issue i guess00:30
JavaMansounds like catch-2200:31
vigilhola00:32
Daisuke_Laptopoi00:33
Daisuke_Laptop!sambabug | JavaMan00:33
ubotuJavaMan: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.00:33
MinatakuDr_willis: :D00:37
JavaManThanks !00:37
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BluesKajSam1337, nothe 8.43 is the ATI proprietary linux driver00:40
KnoogleI have a issue with Dolphin I was hoping someone could help me with....   When Mapping a Drive to a SMB share in Dolphin I can't create files on the Share...     But When using the Same Credentials on Konqueror it works just fine...00:45
Daisuke_Laptop!d3lphin00:47
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.00:47
Daisuke_Laptopi recommend following that00:47
Daisuke_Laptopbecause d3lphin is horrible.00:47
Daisuke_Laptopmind you, once kde4 drops, you can use dolphin, which is a much much nicer experience00:47
KnoogleWell it seems to be a Bug in Dolphin..  That I can't copy files to a SMB share..  Of course I haven't tried doing the same to sftp00:48
Daisuke_Laptopagain, it isn't dolphin00:50
Daisuke_Laptopdolphin works00:50
Daisuke_Laptopd3lphin has actually been abandoned for some time, as i understand it00:50
Dr_willisMinataku,  did ya get the package?00:50
Dr_willisKnoogle,  ive had all sorts of issues with the dolphin manager.00:50
KnoogleAhhh, Now I get it...  The Backport sucks00:51
Dr_willisKnoogle,  for samba shares. You may want to try out that samba-fuse tool. it jiust seems to work better for me then the built in samba browser features of these filemanagers00:51
KnoogleWill do..  I was just wondering if I was doing something screwed...00:52
MilitantPotatoHow do I get the small volume control icon back in system tray?00:52
Dr_willisrun kmixer (i think)00:53
Dr_williskmix :)00:53
KnoogleGo To the Launcher --> Under Multimedia there is kmix Also00:54
MilitantPotatoawsome, thanks.00:54
MilitantPotatot00:55
ForeverZeroIs there any way to play Chess with someone using Windows?00:55
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MilitantPotatonow to figure out why my volume keys stopped working00:55
Dr_willisForeverZero,  theres several free chess programs out. :) but i dont use any.00:55
Daisuke_LaptopForeverZero: get out a chess set and sit down to play a game00:55
GEBluesKaj, if by ATI driver, you mean fglrx, I'm not even past the live cd phase, and 'ati' doesn't work00:55
ForeverZeroI want to use the "MSN gaming zone", but it only likes iexplore.exe , maybe I can run that on wine?00:55
BluesKajno GE , in xorg it's called ati , not fglrx00:56
Dr_willisForeverZero,  i belive theres places other then MSN's lameing zone. :)00:56
GEyeah, tired that already00:56
GE*tried00:56
GEerror is "No devices detected"00:57
GEI'm trying to make the kubuntu livecd start, I have a radeon FireGL V5200 (X1600) and X kinda starts, then crashes, when I try to just type 'startx' It load up so I get a mouse, can move the mouse around, then crashes back to the terminal.  Nothing in the logs.  Any ideas?01:00
gon!easyeclipse01:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easyeclipse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:05
kak[ZzZ]ok01:05
kak[ZzZ]i have a question01:05
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[ka]killerwhy the hell does my gamma keep getting screwed up01:06
MinatakuDr_Willis: I did01:06
MinatakuHowever, both A500s seem to be broken01:06
[ka]killerwhen i lock the computer, adn come back, the gamma on my monitor is all screwed up01:07
Dr_williswell i had one working befor i boxed it up01:07
[ka]killerits way to hi and everythign is much brighter then it should be01:08
Dr_willisIts possible its just a power supply issue.01:08
MinatakuWhere is the A1200?01:08
Dr_willisits still looking for a decent box. the UPS store dident want me to use the other box i had. They got some  stricter rules now.01:08
MinatakuHeh01:08
Dr_willisand i got 3 box's of disks.01:08
MinatakuCoo01:08
Dr_willisaparently paperwrapped box's is not a good thing to them.01:08
MinatakuHeh01:08
Dr_willisBut i DO rember one of those 500's working. I even played some game on it for about 10 min in the garrage befor i packed it up01:09
BluesKajpaper fibers cause minute scratches on discs01:09
MinatakuHm01:09
MinatakuWell, when I tried them, neither were01:10
MinatakuAnd I've stripped one for parts01:10
Dr_willisbummer. Its hard to tell if the PS's are good either. since they got no fans.01:10
MinatakuSince it was a total mess01:10
Dr_willisYep. :) that was the parts machine.01:10
MinatakuBingo01:10
Dr_willisI got a CD32 also i need to pack up01:10
MinatakuIt's keyboard was nice, though01:10
MinatakuIn fact, I swapped the keyboard out of the messy one into the good one01:10
Dr_willisIts just sad that C= never really did use normal PC keybsards..  Actually the CD32 CAN use a PS2 keyboard.01:11
Dr_willisand Mouse I think.01:11
MinatakuIt was in pretty nice condition, unlike the rest of the parts machine XD01:11
BluesKajwell, gonna watch some tv for a while ...BBL01:11
MinatakuBut I do have an ultrawide DIP-64 68000 in my collection now :D01:11
Dr_willisBut the CD32 is missing its PS. but it does have a CD and with a parnet cable you can get the other amigas to use the cd.01:11
MinatakuCoo01:12
Dr_willisBeen doing the rounds at work looking for another nice cardbord box.01:12
MinatakuHeehee, thx ^^01:12
Dr_willisIt sat here boxed up for like 3 weeks.. then one day i tripped over it as i was going to the  grocery store. :)01:13
MilitantPotatowhere do I modify media keys?01:14
MilitantPotatoon the keyboard01:14
ibrahimhi everyone01:14
ibrahimı want to ask sth.01:14
ibrahimis there anyone who use groovy & grails01:15
Dr_williswhat the heck is Grovy and Grails?01:15
ibrahimit is agile web development tool01:16
ibrahimi think no one knows :(01:20
MinatakuIt sounds like one of those lousy Web 2.0 dev things like "Ruby on Rails"01:21
MinatakuThey're extremely poor01:21
ibrahimrealy ?01:21
ibrahimwhy ?01:21
MinatakuI would suggest not using them at all unless your project will only be used by a small amount of users01:21
MinatakuRuby on Rails in particular doesn't scale well at all01:21
ibrahimgroovy & grails is design for java platform and seems like ruby on rails01:22
ibrahimdid you use any of them minataku ?01:22
MinatakuNo, but I know of a project that basically collapsed because of Ruby on Rails' poor scalability01:23
MinatakuTwas called "Danbooru"01:23
MinatakuEventually the whole thing had to be rewritten from scratch without using Ruby at all01:23
ibrahimhımm thanks alot minakatu01:24
MinatakuThe number of people using the app caused the server, a quad-core monsterbox to flail like a PC/XT01:24
Minatakulol01:24
Minatakunp01:25
MinatakuThat said, I know nothing about the one you mentioned01:25
MinatakuIt may be good, but Java isn't known for being incredibly fast, especially in web applets01:25
ibrahimfor the grails framework the developers develop a new language wihich's syntax is similar to01:27
ibrahimjava01:27
maduserwhen i upgrade, everything will upgrade except something with samabia if i try to upgrade it i get an error01:27
ibrahimand its called01:27
ibrahimgroovy01:27
ibrahimits like ruby01:27
madusereverything will upgrade except sambia01:27
MinatakuPython is better01:27
Minataku!sambabug | maduser01:27
ubotumaduser: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.01:27
maduserthanks01:27
Minatakunp01:27
ibrahimyou use python ?01:28
inversekinetixwhat sets kubuntu apart from ubuntu?01:28
Minatakuinversekinetix: KDE instead of GNOME01:28
inversekinetixbasically nothing other than the gui01:29
Minatakuibrahim: No, but I've seen things done in both, and Python is a lot better01:29
Minatakuinversekinetix: Yep01:29
bazhanginversekinetix: superior apps, better integration, better looking, more customizable, no brown :}01:29
inversekinetixwhy do some apps fail to run on on other desktops?01:30
Minatakubazhang: No GNOME is as far as one needs to go01:30
MinatakuThat's the dealmaker right there01:30
Minatakulol01:30
inversekinetixcan i use compiz with it?01:30
bazhangMinataku: some would disagree, but I am agnostic :}01:30
Minatakulol01:31
bazhangI like em both01:31
bazhangjust installed ubuntu on my other machine01:31
MinatakuI hate GNOME01:31
MinatakuI'm also extremely displeased with GTK01:31
soberonGood evening... please: Amarok do not play radio streams; says no-decoders How can I fix it?01:31
inversekinetixget decoders01:31
bazhangsoberon: what streams are you trying to play mms?01:32
soberonsomafm01:32
inversekinetixsynpatic >>> ubuntu-restricted-extras01:32
bazhangadept in this case01:32
soberonadept?... what i must look for?01:33
bazhangkubuntu-restricted-extras soberon01:34
bazhangalso available from the command line sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras01:34
bazhangtry installing those soberon01:35
soberonThanks a lot... so restricted extras will install decoders OK?01:35
bazhangsoberon: likely will do; if not you can get the medibuntu repositories as well01:36
bazhangtry it and see soberon01:36
soberonall right!! Thanks again an see you01:36
bazhangsoberon:  no worries :}01:37
soberongood look bazhang01:37
ibrahimthanks alot minataku01:37
ibrahimsee you cav01:37
[ka]killerok i have 6 files to update and it keeps failing01:43
bazhang!sambabug | [ka]killer01:44
ubotu[ka]killer: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.01:44
[ka]killerk01:44
[ka]killertx01:44
[ka]killerty*01:44
bazhangnp01:45
bazhangshould be fixed in short order01:45
[ka]killerk01:45
tuxwulfHow to fix the "error committing changes" situation when updating with adept?01:49
tuxwulfMmmm... CLI rules, stilll...01:51
CPrompt^i'm running Feisty and there's an update to Samba.  But when I download it, there's errors and it quits.  Says 403 Forbidden.  Any ideas?01:51
tuxwulfCPrompt^: See a few lines up ...01:51
tuxwulf!sambabug | CPrompt^01:52
ubotuCPrompt^: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.01:52
CPrompt^tuxwulf : just came in and I don't have anything  except you saying "CLI rules"01:52
CPrompt^ah....good stuff.  Thanks!  ubotu comes to the rescue  LOL01:52
CPrompt^thanks again01:52
jmichaelxanyone else getting '403 forbidden' when trying to upgrade packages from the security.ubuntu.com repos?01:53
tuxwulfCPrompt^: ....YOu do not get some history lines when you come in...? Oh I guess that is optonal then...01:53
tuxwulf!sambabug | jmichaelx01:53
ubotujmichaelx: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.01:53
tuxwulfSpread the word....01:53
jmichaelxtuxwulf: ty much, kind sir01:54
NightBirdso I take it this was a pretty serious defect then, eh?01:54
Daisuke-Idocould we get an op to put it in the topic?01:54
tuxwulfI guess it must be ....01:54
Daisuke-Idoor...  an on-join notice?01:54
NightBirdDaisuke-Ido: on join notice == spam for the most part, and people rarely read the topic :-/01:55
jmichaelxi hope they're not too bad, because i have those upgrades installed on my lappy....01:55
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jmichaelxi upgraded that machine early this morning01:55
NightBirdhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/163042 << this may be the bug01:57
jmichaelxdoes compiz still kill superkaraba widgets in KDE?01:57
jmichaelxsuperkaramba01:57
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Daisuke-IdoNightBird: you're right :\01:57
Daisuke-Idobut spamming the bot message right now is just as bad01:58
NightBirdhm... but this says it's the dapper repos01:58
jmichaelxdapper and edgy01:58
NightBirdoh, no, feisty and gutsy are also affected01:58
jmichaelxit says feisty and gutsy are ok01:58
NightBird"Turns out that upstream's fix for CVE-2007-4572 was incomplete and Feisty and Gutsy are also affected. As such, feisty and gutsy packages have been disabled. I have also linked to the upstream bug report. Updated packages without this patch will be provided for all releases. CVE-2007-4572 is a DoS but believed to not be exploitable."01:59
NightBirdfrom the comment section01:59
jmichaelxahh01:59
jmichaelxdoes anyone know if compiz/compiz-fusion still kills superkaramba widgets in KDE?02:00
NightBirdjmichaelx: does it appear to be doing so?02:00
jmichaelxNightBird: i do not have it installed..... but beryl did in feisty. maybe my question should have been more specific02:01
HarahuHi all02:02
NightBirdjmichaelx: I don't know... you could always install compiz and find out :P02:03
NightBirdhi Harahu02:03
jmichaelxwell i just upgraded the video card on my very out-of-date box to a PCI GeForce 6200, thank God for envy02:03
jmichaelxNightBird: that might be what i do to find out :-D02:04
HarahuHello Night Bird. What is the most recent stable Kubuntu OS (mean out of testing and such)?02:04
NightBird7.10 is the current version of Kubuntu02:04
jmichaelx7.10 Gutsy Gibbon02:04
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HarahuSo it is stable now,  I thought it was still in beta, I must have mis read something.02:06
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NightBirdHarahu: 7.10 has been out of beta since october02:06
HarahuThen I did misread something.02:07
NightBird(the way the numbers go is the year.month of release.  so 7.10 means it got released in October of 2007)02:07
HarahuI see, I was confused 'cause on the site it said the the release before it was 4.sometime, well that explains it.02:08
sfearshello02:17
HarahuAre any of Y'all developers?02:22
Harahu(Just wondering.)02:22
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NickPrestaHarahu, developers of what? Kubuntu?02:29
HarahuYes.02:30
Jucatothere might be some lurking around. but this is mostly the user channel02:30
HarahuI see.02:31
sherwinhey, guys. Just did a clean installation on a friends computer. He had Suse 10.2. I preserved his home directory. Everything works fine except when a cd or any external medium is put in, he gets a double pop up asking what he wants to do. How do i make this behave normally?02:32
Daisuke_Laptophow many times have you asked that now?02:32
Daisuke_Laptopsherwin: have you sprinkled the chicken blood on the installation media?02:32
sherwinummm.. no02:33
sherwintrying to quit :)02:33
Daisuke_Laptophmm02:33
Daisuke_Laptophave you danced around naked with a stick clenched in your teeth?02:33
sammy-afkso kde4-beta 3 packages were available the day kde4-beta3 was announced. kde4-beta4 was announced before halloween, are there no plans to release packages for beta4? can't seem to find any forum posts with answers other than 'compile it', which I guess is an option.02:33
sherwini think there is something left over from the suse home partition that is messing with things,. just need to know what to delete.. Anyone got a real answer?02:33
Daisuke_Laptopi was just making sure you weren't trying to run windows02:34
Daisuke_Laptoplemme think for a second02:34
Daisuke_Laptopah02:34
Daisuke_Laptopis the disc reading at two mount points?02:34
Daisuke_Laptopthat could possibly explain it02:34
sherwinhang on, let me check the fstab02:34
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sherwinno. Example: i put in a thumb drive, i get two windows asking what i want to do with it.02:35
Daisuke_Laptoptwo copies of the same window, i'm assuming02:35
sherwinyes, except one has a (2) in the titlebar02:35
Daisuke_Laptopright02:36
Daisuke_Laptophmm02:36
Daisuke_Laptopi should probably use kde more than i do02:36
Daisuke_Laptopi would be more useful in this02:36
sammysherwin: when you say preserved, how exactly did you go about that? did the user log into kde before you copied over ~/.kde, or was it in place before he logged in the first time?02:36
Daisuke_Laptopbut, not knowing what suse puts in its home partition...02:36
sammyare there any other users on the machine that you can login and try to duplicate the behavior? that'll at least narrow it down to his personal settings.02:37
sherwini left the /home partition intactr, formatted the root partition, performed a clean install and mounted the old home partition, using the same username02:37
sammyand the kde versions were identical?02:37
sherwinprobably not... everything else works fine, though. I assume there is one config file i need to delete and let kde rebuild it on next boot02:37
sammythat's really weird. maybe try grepping everything in ~/.kde for things like mount or whatever the device name is, like cdrom or sda102:38
sherwinsammy: can you help me with formatting? not usre how to use grep02:39
sammycheck ~/.kde/config/medianotifierrc02:42
sammythat seems like the place to start. btw grep is "grep string file" so "grep mount *" or "grep mount * */* */*/*" etc. there's probably a better way of searching recursively, using 'for each' or some such02:43
Kalamarenkukonversation won't allow me connect to other servers! Why ? anybody knows how to correct that?02:43
sammyoh. grep -r checks recursively.02:44
* sammy pets the manpage02:44
JucatoKalamarenku: how are you trying to connect to other servers?02:44
Kalamarenkuby using the command /server eu.undernet.org02:44
* Jucato throws an -i at sammy too02:44
JucatoKalamarenku: I don't think that really is a command that Konversation recognizes. Have you tried File -> Quick Connect?02:45
Kalamarenkuit works with mIRC in windows.. ssame system ... it should work on konversation too02:45
Kalamarenkujucato yes02:45
Jucatooops sorry bout that02:46
BluesKajKalamarenku, konversation requires manual server setup02:48
Kalamarenkuok did that02:48
Kalamarenkuand yes it recognizes the command02:48
Kalamarenkuit works fine for freenode02:49
* Jucato can connect to other servers, but not with the /server command02:49
BluesKajfreenode is the default konversation server02:49
Kalamarenkui know02:50
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FroggyTheGreatI've got some install questions, if anyone can help...02:55
MilitantPotatoMy volume keys still won't work, I can't even get them to bind now :(02:56
MilitantPotatoif i hit the volume up key my curser flashes when it's in a text window02:56
flodinei really like kde02:56
MilitantPotatoit's registering a keypress but it's obviously confused as to which02:56
FroggyTheGreatgparted made my new partition ext2, but my data partition is already ext3.  Is there a difference I'd notice?02:56
MilitantPotato!ex302:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ex3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:57
MilitantPotato!ext302:57
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org02:57
FroggyTheGreat!ext202:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:57
MilitantPotatotry googling EXT3 vs EXT202:57
FroggyTheGreatGot it.  ext3 is ext2 with journaling.02:59
FroggyTheGreatConsidering how often I hit that bad memory sector and freeze, I want ext3.02:59
MilitantPotatothis is frustraiting03:01
MilitantPotatoi can bind all the other media keys to volume up and down, just not the ones that worked earlier today03:02
FroggyTheGreatNothing quite like that moment of terror when you hit "install" and wonder "I did pick the right partition to format, right?"03:04
nosrednaekimheh03:04
FroggyTheGreat...even though I double-checked.03:05
MilitantPotatoyea03:06
MilitantPotatoI whiped about 4 years of pictures e-books and random stuff I'd gathered doing htat03:07
nosrednaekimyech.03:07
nosrednaekimalways make backups..03:07
FroggyTheGreatBackups, by and large, are made.03:08
MilitantPotatowell03:16
MilitantPotatowith xev it's registering a keypress03:16
MilitantPotatoKDE is just ignoring it, lovely.03:17
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MilitantPotatomeh.03:32
MilitantPotatoAnyone have an idea why xev registers my volume up and down, but I can't bind them in Kmix03:33
MilitantPotatomute works fine though.03:33
BigIron#singles03:35
BigIron#singles03:35
kijutsuMy motherboard (a8v deluxe) has a built in sound card.  In the BIOS it's disabled, it seems that Kubuntu is ignoring BIOS settings and re-enabling the onboard card (VIA 8237), however I also have a SBLive! card installed.  I want to use the SBLive! as my main card and disable the Via 8237 entirely.  How would I go about doing this?  I have no sound output at all from the SBlive!.03:41
ignoramusHelp! I can't update --> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.03:42
MilitantPotato !xmodmap03:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xmodmap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:44
MilitantPotato!xmod03:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xmod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:44
ignoramusGot this in Konsole:Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?03:47
ignoramusneither option fixes the problem03:48
Daisuke-Idooi03:49
Daisuke-Ido!sambabug | ignoramus03:49
ubotuignoramus: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.03:49
Daisuke-Idoi should just hotkey that03:49
ignoramusdaisuke-ido: so i should just ignore this?03:50
Daisuke-Idoignoramus: for now03:50
ignoramusdaisuke-ido: thank you.  at least i know it wasn't something i screwed up, then XD03:51
ignoramusgnite all03:51
MilitantPotato:(03:53
MilitantPotato    174         0x1008ff11 (XF86AudioLowerVolume)03:54
MilitantPotato    176         0x1008ff13 (XF86AudioRaiseVolume)03:54
MilitantPotatoyet they don't work, I don't get it.03:54
MilitantPotatoIs anyone willing to help?03:56
sheldoncany chance we'll see newer version of libsoprano in the repos/04:02
sheldonc?04:02
Dr_willisproberly not.04:03
Dr_willisperhaps in backports. :) but normally ubuntu does updates every 6 mo.04:03
MilitantPotato:(04:10
MilitantPotatowillis any idea why KDE would ignore a keypress?04:11
Dr_willisNever noticed. :) it may be more of an X issue then KDE.04:12
Tm_TMilitantPotato: what you mean by ignore04:12
MilitantPotatoit's being detected with xev04:12
Dr_willisBut i do seem to recall my laptop/media keys doing that XF86 Raise/Lower stuff.. and they worked.04:12
MilitantPotatoWell, I can't bind them to volume up and down04:12
Tm_Troger04:12
Dr_willisI got a knob on my speakers. :) so  i dont mess with the stuff much04:13
Dr_willisi wonder if the thing would work properly with gnome.04:13
MilitantPotatoI can check.04:13
Tm_Tyuck04:13
darksider415Same here.. Although I wish my play/pause, etc.. buttons on the notebook would work under Gutsy, like they did under Feisty and Gutsy until Tribe 4...04:13
MilitantPotatostate 0x10, keycode 174 (keysym 0x1008ff11, XF86AudioLowerVolume)      174         0x1008ff11 (XF86AudioLowerVolume)04:14
MilitantPotatopressing the keys causes the text curser to flicker04:16
ubuntu!info compizconfig-settings-manager04:17
ubotucompizconfig-settings-manager: Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 498 kB, installed size 3268 kB04:17
ubuntu!info compizconfig-settings-manager feisty04:17
ubotuPackage compizconfig-settings-manager does not exist in feisty04:17
ubuntuhmm04:17
altghie all04:17
* ubuntu sips a coffee04:17
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geniiHi gang :)04:19
MilitantPotatobrb ill see if it works in gnome04:19
Kalamarenkuare you guys able to connect to other servers?04:20
Kalamarenkucan you connect to undernet?04:20
Jucatogive me a server addy and I'll try04:20
Kalamarenkutype /server SantaAna.CA.US.Undernet.org04:20
Kalamarenkuor type /server eu.Undernet.org04:21
MilitantPotatoit works perfectly in Gnome04:21
altgim french, recently under linux, and only under kubuntu for 6 months04:21
JucatoKalamarenku: yes, but again, not using /server04:21
KalamarenkuXCHAT?04:22
Jucatokonversation04:22
KalamarenkuJucato: I have tried everything...04:22
altgwhy does he speak of gnone in this kubuntu chan ??04:22
Jucatooh I've tried using /server eu.undernet.org now04:22
KalamarenkuJucato: I have added it with quick connect with config...is not working04:22
MilitantPotatobecause it was mentioned my problem might be caused by Xserver04:22
KalamarenkuKonversation , XCHAT can be installed in Kubuntu ...04:23
JucatoKalamarenku: [12:22] [Welcome] Welcome to the UnderNet IRC Network, Jucato04:23
Kalamarenkualtg after all it is Linux, and is Ubuntu....04:23
MilitantPotatoAnyone have any idea why KDE is ignoring my X86 keypresses?04:23
Jucato!keyboard04:23
ubotuTo switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts04:23
Jucatohm...  no not that04:24
Kalamarenku!IRC04:24
Jucato!shortcuts04:24
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines04:24
altgWorking server eu.undernet.org04:24
ubotukeyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts04:24
JucatoMilitantPotato: ^^^04:24
MilitantPotatoyeabeen there done that :)04:24
altgjust test, and it works04:24
Kalamarenkuyeah04:24
JucatoKalamarenku: it might be a problem on your end/connection04:24
KalamarenkuI did that it does not work04:24
Kalamarenkunext thing I will contact my ISP ..04:24
Jucatoit works for 2 of us04:24
MilitantPotatoJucato: they worked earlier today04:24
Kalamarenkuand see what is going on04:24
Kalamarenkuyeah04:24
JucatoKalamarenku: tried using some other IRC client?04:24
KalamarenkuI was connecting in Kubuntu from work in Pidgin and konversation04:25
Jucatodoes it also not work?04:25
Kalamarenkuyes04:25
Kalamarenkuall of em04:25
Kalamarenkunope04:25
Kalamarenkuthey do not04:25
Kalamarenkubut !04:25
KalamarenkuI am chatting in Kubuntu !04:25
Jucatothen it's not an app problem :)04:25
Kalamarenkuyes...04:25
Kalamarenkuit is veeery strange though04:25
Jucatovery :/04:26
Tanndoes anyone know how to make kubuntu start without starting the Xserver04:26
altgyes that's strange04:26
simon__removing kdm?04:27
Tannno, just not starting xserver04:27
Jucatonah, that'd be too much :)04:27
stdinTann: permanently or temperately?04:27
crimsunTann: just remove the executable bits on /etc/init.d/kdm04:27
Jucato"temporarily"04:27
stdinyeah :p04:27
Jucatocrimsun: is that even recommended?04:27
crimsunJucato: <dev hat>no</dev hat>04:28
stdinupdate-rc.d is the recommended way04:28
Tannwell, i mean so that i can start it manually. I guess i do the  /etc/init.d/kdm04:28
Jucatocrimsun: oooh where did you buy that hat? or does it come w/ shipit? :)04:28
crimsunstdin: update-rc.d will cause the reinstallation of that file on upgrades.  You likely /don't/ want those semantics.04:28
stdinTann: sudo update-rc.d kdm remove04:28
stdincrimsun: removing the +x will be undone on upgrades too04:29
Tannstdin: may i ask what exactally that does?04:29
stdinTann: removed the links that run the script at startup (and shutdown)04:29
stdins/removed/removes/04:30
crimsunstdin: not in my experience.04:30
Tannstdin: thanks a bunch04:30
stdinie: the ones in /etc/rc.?/?kdm04:30
Jucato(silly upstart!)04:30
sfearsi use dhclient to grab an ipaddress when i boot up, when i right click on my knetwork manager it doesn't show any available wireless networks, any idea why it wouldn't be displaying anything?04:31
Kalamarenkucan you check which ports are blocked in Ubuntu ?04:32
sfearsi also tried to remove an applet from the panel and accidentallly clicked on something (not sure what) and all my open applications disapeared from the panel. does anyone know how to get them back?  I added window list manager and it works but it's not the same thing04:32
stdinno ports are blocked by default04:33
Kalamarenkudamn it04:33
Kalamarenkuthen it is my freakin ISP04:33
sfearsports are usually blocked by the router04:33
sfearsyou need to configure port forwarding04:33
JucatoKalamarenku: have you tried connecting to a specific port when you connect to other IRC servers? by default I think Kubuntu uses 800104:33
MilitantPotatoJucato: thank you.04:33
JucatoMilitantPotato: did the link help?04:34
MilitantPotatoyep, I'm at a loss why the volume controls broke but the rest didn't04:34
Jucato:)04:34
KalamarenkuJucato: undernet uses ports 6667-700004:34
JucatoKalamarenku: try connecting w/ port 666704:34
Kalamarenkudid that also04:35
Jucatothat would be a possible cause :)04:35
Kalamarenkuand 6668-6669-700004:35
Kalamarenkuyes, I am almost sure it is the ISP has the ports blocked04:35
ubunturosif there's just 2 MB of RAM available, will newer apps start slower, than they actually do? (from #kde)04:37
crimsunnot necessarily.04:37
Jucatonot noticeablly slower, unless you're running out of swap too04:37
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crimsun(and we're missing detail whether there's a considerable amount that's freeable, e.g., dcache)04:38
ubunturoshmm, well, they appear to do so for me..04:38
Tanngrr, sory to ask this again04:38
Tannbut what was the comand that i was told04:38
crimsunMem:          1509        840        669   <-- does not imply that I can only start an app with a footprint smaller than 669 MB.04:38
stdinTann: sudo update-rc.d kdm remove04:38
Tannthx04:38
crimsun-/+ buffers/cache:        251       1258  <-- it's more realistically closer to 1258 MB04:39
ubunturoshmm, does Konqueror has a "Window" menu in the menu bar?04:39
ubunturoshave*04:40
stdinnot that I can see04:40
JucatoKonqueror has. but Kubuntu's Konqueror doesn't :)04:40
ubunturosJucato: ah, ok.04:41
Jucatoa.k.a. vanilla Konqueror has04:41
stdinso that's a "yesno"04:41
ubunturoshmm04:41
Jucato"okcancel"04:41
Jucatoubunturos: most of the entries under the Window menu can be reached via right-click on the status bar04:41
* ubunturos was going through the KDE QUickstart guide (for tips) and found that Konqueror should have Window-Show terminal emulator04:41
Jucatoubunturos: press F804:42
ubunturosJucato: F8 works, right click doesn't :-?04:42
Jucatohm?04:42
JucatoF8 = Show terminal emulator (embedded terminal)04:42
ubunturosJucato: right click only offers, split views04:42
Jucatoright-click on status bar = split views04:43
Jucatoyes, I did say "most" entries in the Window menu, not *all*04:43
ubunturosJucato: oops, sorry.04:43
DRtuxthepenguin!dolphin04:45
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.04:45
Jucatoubunturos: well, basically the Window has 3-4 sets of entries. The first set is for splitting views, which can be reaches via right-click on the status bar or keyboard shortcuts (my favorite)04:45
ubunturosJucato: hmm, thanks.04:45
DRtuxthepenguin!Konqueror04:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:45
ubunturos:-o04:45
Jucatoubunturos: 2nd and 3rd sets are for tab management04:45
Jucato4th set is for Terminal Emulator (F8) and Navigation Panel (F9)04:45
ubunturosJucato: hmm, ok.04:46
GannondorfNeed help with compiling error04:56
Gannondorfchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!04:57
Jucato!xincludes | Gannondorf04:58
ubotuGannondorf: When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev04:58
Gannondorfchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!05:00
Gannondorfoops05:00
GannondorfE: Package xlibs-dev has no installation candidate05:00
crimsunuse libx11-dev and the others05:00
crimsunxorg-dev should pull in the basic ones05:00
Gannondorfthanks05:01
ubunturossmbclient and samba-common failed upgrades yesterday - how do I fix the05:02
ubunturosthem*05:02
Gannondorfchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!05:08
* Jucato wonders what Gannondorf is trying to compile...05:09
Gannondorfktorrent05:09
ubunturosoh,05:09
Jucatoyou need Qt 3 hearders (libqt3-mt-dev)05:09
\dEADi got a kicker problem05:09
JucatoGannondorf: it's installed by default05:09
Gannondorfnot for me05:09
* ubunturos tried to configure ktorrent and it failed for something else05:09
Jucatoor you mean a new version?05:09
JucatoGannondorf: it's in K Menu -> Interenet -> KTorrent05:09
Jucato!info ktorrent05:10
\dEADwhere the volume control should be, its all garbled. can see the network, Xchat and trashbin, clock.  just not the audio control05:10
ubotuktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 2698 kB, installed size 9932 kB05:10
Jucatoand you can install it from the repositories05:10
ubunturosJucato: he, probably is trying a to compile a new verison05:10
Jucatoubunturos: he said "not for me", perhaps it isn't installed05:10
Gannondorfyea05:10
Gannondorfit wasnt05:10
Jucato\dEAD: run K Menu -> Multimedia -> KMix05:10
* ubunturos goes afk to wash his face :)05:10
JucatoGannondorf: just install it from the repositories (using Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager)05:11
\dEADjucato, thanks much. works now.  any idea what causes that?05:11
Jucatodunn :)05:11
Jucatodunno :)(05:12
ubunturosI get this error while compiling the latest version " libmse_la.all_cpp.lo "05:12
ubunturosof Ktorrent05:12
NickPrestaIs there a reason I'm getting a 403 Forbidden error from the gutsy/security main repo (samba related packages)?05:19
crimsunyes.05:20
crimsunsee the topic of #ubuntu05:20
NickPrestacrimsun, thanks05:20
Jucato!sambaupdate05:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sambaupdate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:21
Jucatobah05:21
Jucato!sambabug | NickPresta05:21
ubotuNickPresta: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.05:21
NickPrestathanks Jucato. I assume apt-get -m dist-upgrade will continue without the samba upgrades?05:22
* Jucato doesn't know05:22
NickPrestawell, apparently it's working so :)05:22
Daisuke_LaptopJucato: there's got to be a better way of getting that info out to users...05:23
Jucatoyeah... but the /topic is too overcrowded :)05:23
Daisuke_Laptopagreed05:23
Jucato(and does anyone *really* read the topic anyway?)05:23
Daisuke_Laptopand as someone pointed out earlier, an onjoin could be considered spam05:24
NickPrestaChanging the topic doesn't help users who are already in the channel and idle :)05:24
Daisuke_Laptopnor does an onjoin05:24
NickPrestaexactly05:24
* Jucato nods05:24
NickPrestaoh well. I guess that factoid will get some use for the next day or two05:25
Daisuke_Laptopbut if you've been idling, it's been mentioned at least 20 times in the past couple hours :)05:25
Jucatoso given all that, the best way is to use !sambabug :)05:25
Daisuke_Laptopi take that back, it hasn't been used much lately05:25
* Daisuke_Laptop binds it to a key-combo05:25
vsudilovanyone know what my adept always crashes when I try to update or install with it?05:27
vasilisaHow come the latest updates of gutsy are "forbidden"?05:30
vasilisalibsmbclient samba-common smbclient all give error 403 when i sudo aptitude install05:31
NickPresta!sambabug | vasilisa05:32
ubotuvasilisa: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.05:32
vasilisa^-^ yay thanks05:32
ectospasmdoes anyone know why adept has decided to ignore my chosen KDE color theme... on two different machines?  I updated each over the past week or so, and now adept looks like it's using the default color theme, which doesn't match what I use at all...05:40
josueen español05:41
josuehola05:41
NickPresta!es | josue05:41
ubotujosue: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.05:41
josuegracias05:41
Jucatoectospasm: Adept, and any app that you run with sudo/kdesu (root) uses a different theme from normal users. it just so happens that it's configured to use the same initial theme as the default initial theme for all users. once you change a user's theme, Adept won't automatically adjust unless you change it yourself05:43
ectospasmJucato:  it did exhibit proper behavior before, but somehow it switched...05:43
matt__hello I am trying to install kubuntu-desktop with apt-get and it keeps telling me to insert cdrom..  I am wired to the internet05:44
ectospasmSo it's a kdesu thing05:44
matt__any ideas?05:44
Jucatoyes. "stay around long enough for the answer." :/05:44
matt__hello I am trying to install kubuntu-desktop with apt-get and it keeps telling me to insert cdrom..  I am wired to the internet  Any ideas?05:44
ectospasmmatt__:  try inserting the install CD05:44
ectospasmor are you not physically near the machine?05:45
NickPrestamatt__, your sources.list most likely contains cdrom lines05:45
matt__i know that will work but why can't it select source form the internet05:45
NickPrestayou may want to comment those out05:45
Dr_willismatt__,  you have the cd as a 'source' in your  sources.list05:45
matt__ok so i can take that out..05:45
matt__thaks for the advice05:45
Dr_willisdisable the  cd in the package manager is aniother way05:45
matt__on another note.. has anyone  experienced a failed binariy upgrade to the new 7.10.. mine failes on libsmbclient and friends.05:46
NickPresta!sambabug | matt__05:46
ubotumatt__: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.05:46
Dr_willisknown bug.. wait a few days :)05:46
matt__;-)05:46
NickPrestaalternately, use the -m option to ignore it05:46
NickPrestaalthough waiting is probably best05:46
matt__ah thanks.05:46
josuemnm05:46
matt__sorry I'm new to ubuntu.. mainly solaris and oracle linux at work.. have ubuntu on laptop and  havinga hard time keeping up with all these different oss... work takes precedence.. Thanks for the tip on the cdrom.05:47
ectospasmJucato wasn't helpful.  He identified the problem but not a solution... how do I get adept (or any kdesu program) to choose my user theme?05:49
* Jucato was just pointing out that it's not really a "problem". but fine....05:49
Dr_willisyou need to set the theme as the root user. use kdesu to run the kde theme selection tool.05:49
Dr_willisits not a problem. :) the root user has his own settings.05:50
Jucatopeople nowadays...05:50
Dr_willisI perfer my root user to have a BRIGHT RED theme. :) so i know what programs are getting ran as root.05:50
NickPrestaits actually a feature and a benefit to running a multiuser system :)05:50
Jucato"kdesu systemsettings" and get done with it.05:50
* Jucato is done here as well05:50
Dr_willisonec ya get used to the idea of  a actual multiuser system. and the linux fundamentals. :P05:51
matt__like windows 98 ?05:51
Dr_willislike DOS! :)05:51
Nylehmm05:51
NickPrestalol05:51
matt__Windows 98 was pretty sweet05:52
Nylexp is good05:53
Nylexp pro 6405:53
Nylenever crashes man05:53
NickPresta!windows05:53
ubotuFor discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents05:53
matt__heh05:55
matt__windows 98 + AD client is pretty sweet05:56
ectospasmThanks guys... that worked (and gave me a good idea)05:56
shaffycould someone please tell me the command to find out which release i have? (gutsy, feisty, etc)05:56
matt__so i can just apt-get -m upgrade05:57
NickPrestamatt__, sudo apt-get -m dist-upgrade05:57
NickPrestashaffy, `lsb_release -a`05:57
rdvonHey, I'm having trouble Compiling a program from source, it's the gimp normal map plugin.. Here's the error I get http://pastebin.com/m67f8e20b05:57
rdvonIn fact, I haven't gotten one program to compile correctly. it bothers me :\05:57
ubuntucan someone help me install kubuntu to my comp please05:58
NickPrestardvon, do you have "build-essential" installed?05:58
NickPrestaubuntu, what seems to be the problem?05:58
rdvonNickpresta, one sec. I'll try it.05:58
shaffyNickPresta: thanks bro.05:58
ubuntuits asking for some host file at the install05:58
ubuntuim new at linux05:58
rdvonHaha, I didn't thanks!05:58
rdvonSo much better to get help here than at #ubuntu >.>05:59
NickPrestaubuntu, specific error messages are helpful. Screenshots too, if they will help explain your problem in greater detail. What exactly is the problem? What stage of the install does the installer ask you?05:59
rdvonI'm still getting the same error it seems.05:59
ubuntucan i PM u?05:59
NickPrestaubuntu, sure05:59
rdvonYeah.. nick, that Didn't work, same error. :(06:00
NickPrestardvon, gimme one sec06:01
ubuntusorry nick but it said it blocked from private messages06:01
rdvonoK.06:01
rdvonthanks.06:01
excitatorywhere would i find the md5sum of the kubuntu desktop cd iso?06:01
NickPrestaubuntu, you need to have a registered nickname, I believe06:01
ubuntuok06:01
NickPrestaubuntu, you can type up your question and such in a pastebin and post it here. We will read it06:01
NickPresta!pastebin | ubuntu06:01
ubotuubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:01
matt__NickPresta will that perform version upgrade?  The manual leads me to believe it is just an upgrade of the current packages06:02
rdvonWhat problem is he having? the kubuntu install is pretty straight forward..06:02
NickPrestamatt__, oh, you are upgrading to gutsy? I would wait a couple days then.06:02
matt__k06:03
matt__tip of the spear u know06:03
matt__chases -rHEAD06:03
ubuntuat install , its at a partition stage, its says " no root system is defined'....'please correct this from the partitioning menu06:03
rdvonAre you trying a dual boot?06:04
ubuntuyea06:04
rdvonOh.06:04
rdvonWell, you might need to resize your windows (ntfs) partition.. is that the problem?06:04
rdvonto give space for kubuntu.06:04
ubuntuim doing it to an external drive.....06:05
matt__or delete it :-/06:05
matt__ah06:05
rdvonit should ask you which hard drive to install too.06:05
ubuntuyea it did06:05
ubuntui selected the drive06:05
rdvonOh.06:05
rdvonNothing on it?06:06
ubuntuand i select te type and mounting and all of that06:06
ubuntuand then i get that error06:06
ubuntuno06:06
rdvonHmm..06:06
rdvonAsk nick ;)06:06
ubuntuyea06:06
ubuntunick??06:06
rdvonNickpresta06:06
rdvonWhere'd he go anyways...06:07
rdvonI'm still having problems compiling ;(06:07
ubuntubeats me...06:07
rdvonWell.06:07
rdvonWhat was the host file?06:07
rdvonName?06:07
ubuntume?06:07
rdvonYeah.. whatever that error was..06:07
rdvon:P06:07
ubuntuit says " no root file system defined"06:08
ubuntui dont know what it wants06:08
rdvonOne sec.06:08
ubuntuok06:08
ectospasmubuntu:  did you set a  / mount point?06:08
ubuntuyea06:08
NickPrestardvon, according to INSTALL, you need to have the -dev packages for glib2, gtk+ and gimp. Do you have those? (libglib2.0-dev, libgtk1.2-dev,libgimp2.0-dev)06:08
ectospasmubuntu:  did you set a filesystem type?06:09
NickPrestaubuntu, you should have created a root partition (of what ever size). You should have formatted it as ext3 or the filesystem of your choice. You should then, on the next screen, set that partition (sda4, for example) to /06:09
ubuntuyea06:09
rdvonI was just about to say that ;)06:10
ubuntuit didnt go to a next screen06:10
ubuntui got the error06:10
rdvonThe mount it to / part..06:10
ubuntuyea06:10
matt__Have a great night.06:10
ectospasmubuntu:  are you marking it bootable?06:10
Dr_willisif he had fdisked  the disk and changed the partitions about. Ive had to 'reboot' some machines. other wise the kernel sees the older partiotion layout.06:10
ubuntuwhere?06:10
rdvonIf this is relevant at all... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41615406:11
rdvonSeems to do the trick for most people.06:11
ectospasmDr_willis:  I've seen that too, come to think of it06:11
rdvonNow... My compiling woes :(06:12
inversekinetixanyone know alien arena well?06:12
rdvoninversekinetix: it's *ok* try urban terror though.06:12
rdvonor sauerbraten :)06:12
inversekinetixrdvon how do you update the game?06:13
NickPrestardvon, according to INSTALL, you need to have the -dev packages for glib2, gtk+ and gimp. Do you have those? (libglib2.0-dev, libgtk1.2-dev,libgimp2.0-dev)06:13
ubuntuim still lost here06:13
Dr_willisTremulus is fun.. but makes me puke. :)06:13
ectospasmubuntu:  did you take Dr_willis' advice and reboot the system after the repartitioning?06:14
Dr_willisubuntu,  its possible you need to reboot.. and restart the installer and tell it where to put /06:14
rdvonSay *NO* to tremulous :P06:14
ubuntuits already partitioned06:14
Dr_willisI normally just leave a large part of the hd Unallocated.06:14
ubuntui just select the partition06:14
inversekinetixno?06:14
rdvonurT ftw!06:14
rdvonNickPresta: I think that should make it work..06:14
Dr_willisubuntu,  IF youjust changed the partitionlayouts. the kernel MAY be confused. reboot to be doubly sure its ok withthe disk layout.06:14
ubuntui have been rebooting a couple of times...06:15
Dr_willisOf course it may be you are just not setting the partitions/mount point propery then.06:15
jetsaredimsome failed updates seem to be blocking any further invocation of any installation commands - how do I clear this?06:15
ubuntui looked at snapshots online...and it look right06:15
ubuntui dunno :(06:15
Dr_willisjetsaredim,  wait a day or 2 and try again.06:15
Jucatowhat failed updates?06:15
Jucato!sambabug06:15
ubotuA defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.06:16
rdvonnickpresta: same error :(06:16
jetsaredimJucato: adept crashed during an update06:16
Jucato!adeptcrashfix06:16
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »06:16
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Art_Unable to get CUPS working on Kubuntu 7.10.  Any ideas?06:18
inversekinetixuse windows06:18
Dr_willisor be a little more clear as to whats not working.06:19
Art_Dr_willis, It doesn't seem to find the printer.06:19
Dr_willisArt_,  and whats the printer?06:19
sebrhow can i get dolphin to stop generating thumbnail previews of documents like pdfs06:20
Art_Dr_willis, Epson Stylus Color 600.06:20
Dr_willischeck the cups.org site to see how well its supported for a start. I guess.06:20
Art_Dr_willis, Works fine in 7.04.06:20
Dr_williscould check the forums also - see if others have issues.06:20
rdvonCompiling woes still :(06:20
Art_Dr_willis, It seems to find the correct driver.06:21
Dr_willisi converted my printer to a networked printer. So i rarely have issues now a days.06:21
Art_This is a local printer.06:21
polo2I can see the follow problem when I try to install the last 3 actualisations:06:22
polo2http://pastebin.ca/77751306:22
polo2And I have swiched de mirror and is de same06:23
polo2and my english is more or less very basic06:23
Jucato!sambabug06:24
ubotuA defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.06:24
Dr_willisThers a bug going on at this time polo2  with that packages.. wait a day or 2 for the fixes to get made.06:24
rdvonNickPresta: help? :(06:25
crazypoultryi'm getting ready to do a new install on a laptop i just got,  iwould like to have to partitions setup so that i wont lose data if i have to reinstall kubuntu(it's gonna be for my wife something is bound to get screwed up) i'm looking at 53406MB of free space(it's dual booted) any sggestions on how i should set these up06:26
Dr_willisive heard around 10gb or so for / and  as much for /home as you can spare.06:28
Dr_willis+ some for a swap partition.06:29
polo2sorry I'm trying to understad english. You say, the 403 forbidden will be fix. And easily I would wait, and nothing more because other people will be fix the bug?06:29
Dr_willispolo2,  the package has a security problem. Wait a day or 2 and it will get fixed.06:30
Nylehm06:30
Nylesecurity is important06:30
crazypoultrythat was what i was thinking 10gig for / a gig for swap and the rest /home(which is all personal data right?, sorry still new to linux)06:30
Dr_williscrazypoultry,  thats about right.06:30
Nylecrazypoultry: that sounds great06:30
Dr_willisUnless you know you need more for /06:30
Dr_willisof course ya could always do some tweaking later.06:30
Nyle10gb ought to be good enough06:30
polo20k. Only I will wait and all will be 0k.06:31
Dr_willisI keep a lot of vmware images - so my / is a bit bigger then that..06:31
polo2Thanks06:31
crazypoultrythanks for the help, guess i'll try it and worse case i gotta burn off the stuff i need to save and redo it :)06:32
rdvonCompiling errors. :(06:45
TheWozA!aptfix06:53
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »06:53
sfearsis the program that resizes the partition on the live cd installed in kubuntu?06:57
TheWozAhey guys i got updates that wont install it collects headers and everything when it comes to installing it says "there was an error commiting changes, possibly there was a problem downloading packages or the commit would break packages"06:58
TheWozAanyone else having this prob?06:59
Tm_TTheWozA: known, wait a day or two07:00
TheWozAgah07:00
TheWozAbrb change video driver07:00
soberonHi... Please Somebody knows about the zd1211-firmware?07:01
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TheWozAhmmm whats going on i installed restricted package and still i have no flash player in konquer and i scanned for the plugin07:20
JucatoTheWozA: double check that you have flashplugin-nonfree installed07:21
TheWozAit usually comes with the restricted package does it not>07:21
TheWozA?07:21
Jucatoit should. but then again, it should have worked already. there might have been something wrong.07:22
Jucatohence double check :)07:22
TheWozAim installing it manual07:23
Jucatoso it wasn't installed?07:23
TheWozAno but apt was is giving me trouble since them updates wont download07:24
Jucatosamba updated bug maybe07:25
TheWozAheh least manual install works07:27
Jucato:)07:27
diswHi room07:37
TheWozAhallo disw07:38
diswAnyone awake ?07:38
diswhi07:38
diswhello07:38
emilsedgh!hi | disw07:38
ubotudisw: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!07:38
diswhi good to see some people still on computers07:38
diswi want to just mention07:39
diswthat i found a virus on Abiword word processor software07:40
diswin one of the example files07:40
surgyhi07:40
diswscanned it using Norton AV using windows07:40
diswcan anyone check to see if it's still there?07:41
surgywhen i try to upgrade my packages using "sudo apt-get upgrade" i get several errors like this "07:41
surgyErr http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main smbclient 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.107:41
surgy  403 Forbidden07:41
surgyseams as though i cant upgrade samba?07:41
Jucato!sambabug | surgy07:41
ubotusurgy: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.07:41
surgyJucato: thank you, so i just need to wait a few days and it should update just fine?07:42
Jucatoyeah07:42
surgykewl07:42
krasHi07:42
krasI have a webcam but don't work?07:43
krashelp07:43
mwilliamHi, good morning07:43
* mwilliam Nikio07:43
krasMy webcam is IBM PC cam 16807:44
krasIs enyone can help07:44
diswhi ubotu07:44
diswCan anyone verify if abiword software has a virus?07:46
diswmaybe it's just a false alarm, i think07:48
diswi have to believe 7.10 software is completely free from virus, nomatter which server it's from07:50
mwilliamhi kras. If commandline ''lspci'' shows 0x0c45:0x613c then you're lucky. yo can see your webcam on http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html07:50
diswdid anyone have similar problems with i had with abiword?07:56
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Jucatodisw: considering that this is #kubuntu, where most people would presumably either be using KOffice (KWord) or OpenOffice, I think the chances of finding a fellow abiword user here is very slim07:59
Jucatodisw: I recommend asking in #ubuntu or #gnome07:59
diswyeah i guess you're right08:00
Ahmuckin konq, you can sftp?08:01
JucatoAhmuck: yes08:01
Jucatosftp://08:02
luca_b7joi08:02
Ahmucki forget, there is some other commapnd for ssh?08:04
rdvonHow do i add programs to my pkg_config?08:04
rdvonIt says this: Package gtkglext-1.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.08:05
rdvonPerhaps you should add the directory containing `gtkglext-1.0.pc'08:05
rdvonto the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable08:05
rdvonwhat does it mean?08:05
combinioif i have an archive RAR and in windows i packed it with password how can unpack it using that pass? cuz there is only option to extract08:29
combinioi know pass but don't know where to type it ? ;]08:29
vzduchw/ what program are you trying to unpack it?08:30
Jucatocombinio: try doing it from Konsole instead of in Ark. in konsole, type: unrar -x filename.rar08:30
combinioand where pass? :)08:30
Jucatoer...08:30
Jucatounrar x filename.rar08:31
vzduchJucato: I guess, if using unrar, the x option is rather superfluous..08:31
combiniovzduch: ark :)08:31
Jucatoit would prompt you for the password I tihink08:31
combinioJucato: oka, lets's see08:31
vzduchon the cmdline it does.. at least w/ the non-free rar08:31
Jucatovzduch: no. x is not an option/flag, but a command.08:31
Jucato(could also be unrar e I think08:32
combinioWOOOOOOOOKS :d:d08:32
combiniothx Jucato ;))08:32
combiniogot that :P08:32
Jucatosure08:32
pacmanis anyone familar with mplayer?08:43
jjonesProblem with security repository.. anyone know of a contact?  http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/ files with "last modified" date of 16-Nov-2007 permissions are set wrong. Feisty can't upgrade Samba08:48
tecumsehGutsy can't either08:48
jjonestecumseh .. I was just told on another irc channel that it's intentional as per this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/16311608:57
Jucato!sambabug | jjones08:57
ubotujjones: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.08:57
jjonesyeah.. it's a pain, I was hoping to start an upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy overnight. Maybe tommorrow night.08:58
waylandbillI installed a brand knew fresh copy of gutsy. When I enabled the universe, restricted and multiverse repositories, adept offered a version upgrade. How does that differ from fetching updates and applying upgrades?09:21
vzduch'brand knew'..  o009:28
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waylandbillvzduch: yeah. brand knew is a pre-coffee kind of statement. lol09:36
vzduchwhat did the brand know? *gg*09:36
sindberghi everybody, when i try to install something or apply update i get There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.09:44
sindbergwhat gives?09:44
sindbergits a fresh install09:45
SSJ_GZsindberg: This? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/16311609:45
WaltzingAlongsindberg: with qt3? run it from konsole, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -f install09:47
sindbergWaltzingAlong: did it, but what did i do?09:51
ubuntulost in space09:53
vzduch?09:53
ubuntui'm having install problems for the umpteenth time09:53
waylandbillsindberg: you told it to make sure that it had the newest package lists and then you told it to install while attempting to fix broken dependencies.09:54
WaltzingAlongsindberg: first one just ran the update to update the available packages. the second asked to fix (-f) the ... ^^09:54
WaltzingAlongas far as i know the first part is possible through adept but not the second09:54
sindbergWaltzingAlong: waylandbill okay thx alot09:54
waylandbillsindberg: specifically the aptitude man page says that -f does this: Try hard to fix the dependencies of broken packages, even if it means ignoring the actions requested on the command line.09:55
ubuntui think i'm having some hardware compatibility problems09:55
vzduchyou could cross-check that w/ another distro09:56
ubuntuwell msoft :( sort of works ok09:56
vzduchor try the alternate install CD, which offers more options for the install process09:57
ubuntui think my router maybe doesn't help09:57
vzduchubuntu: I was thinking about plain Debian, or Fedora..09:57
vzduchnot M$ *urgh*09:57
ubuntucan't find a workaround09:57
vzduchwhat's the exact problem?09:57
ubuntui'm well over my download limit already - don't really need another big download09:58
waylandbillubuntu: could be a bios incompatibility. I had an HP that ubuntu didn't work, but debian did.09:58
ubuntui sorta had my system working on feisty09:58
vzduchdownload limit.. omfg, why do people still use volume rates?09:59
ubuntugutsy has netwrk access problems i think but i suspect thats because of my router09:59
ubuntucost vzduch10:00
ubuntuhaven't got bottomless pockets10:00
darkHi eveeryon10:00
darkeveryone*10:00
ubuntuello dark10:00
darkHello10:00
ubuntuplease don't ask me i'm a nerd10:01
darkcan someone help me?10:01
ubuntuproblems of my own10:01
ubuntubut good luck10:01
vzduchin most cases you should be able to get a (slow) flatrate including phoneline from EUR 30 upwards10:01
ubuntui can download 5gb a month10:01
ubuntui've topped that already10:02
vzduchway too little for a Linux user10:02
ubuntuits not speed its volume10:02
vzduchthat's why I said it10:02
ubuntui can't afford more vzduch10:02
vzduchthe cheap flatrates are 2 Mbit ore something10:02
ubuntunot in uk10:03
vzduchI have a 6 Mbit flatrate for EUR 40 a month plus phone charges10:03
ubuntuthats probably what i call expensive10:03
vzduchmy sister and her husband have 25 Mbit cable access flatrate for like EUR 70 a month10:03
vzduchEUR 40 = (roughly) GBP 2510:04
ubuntuits 56k for 10 pounds in te uk10:04
ubuntubroadband starts around 18 ponds10:05
Tm_T!offtopic10:05
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:05
ubuntutho i have a contract deal at 14 pounda10:05
vzduchI think you're saving on the wrong end, then..10:06
ubuntulol - on topic how do i sort out my gutsy install10:06
vzduchGBP 25-30 should be in for a decent Internet uplink10:06
ubuntuinstall fedora cinstead?10:06
ubuntuman...10:06
ubuntudlink router may be giving me problems but theres one or two ther issues10:07
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ubuntui'm looking for a possible workaround10:07
ubuntuvduch theres no 6 pound internet in the uk10:08
rysiek|plhi all10:09
ubuntuat the moment my gutsy install cannot access security updates10:09
rysiek|plguys, is there a way to set an external program (i.e. Stellarium) a a screensaver?10:10
vzduchthere are some cheapo flatrates in Germany for EUR <10.. but all of these require you to have a phone line w/ Deutsche Telekom for at least EUR 17...10:10
WaltzingAlongkwebdesktop10:10
* Tm_T slaps MetaMorfoziS 10:10
maurihi. sameone knows samething like incd for windows10:10
ubuntus i shpuld give up on gutsy for now?10:10
* MetaMorfoziS slaps Tm_T10:10
WaltzingAlongubuntu: want help installing gutsy?10:10
Tm_TMetaMorfoziS: I see awaynick, httt10:10
Tm_Thrrrr even10:10
ubuntuplz waltzing10:11
rysiek|plmauri: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/image.iso10:11
NiceGuyUKOk, this is gonna sound like an unrelated question, but bear with me...I'm on a Vista box with a Kubuntu Gutsy ISO image and I have no idea how to burn the image.  Windows doesn't give this option like our favourite OS.  anyone know of a free (as in beer at this point) tool to do this?10:11
rysiek|plmauri: oops, sorry10:11
ubuntuwaltzing i think i have a few issues - one is my router possibly10:11
rysiek|plmauri: nope, that's not it.10:11
WaltzingAlongNiceGuyUK: cdrtools front end10:12
jpatrick!burn10:12
ubotuCD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto10:12
WaltzingAlongNiceGuyUK: infrarecorder10:12
waylandbillI think mauri wants packet writing capability for cd-rw's, not burning in general.10:12
vzduchjpatrick: no help for someone on Vista, I guess..10:12
NiceGuyUKWaltzingAlong: will google that one, cheers10:12
ubuntuwaltzing i did have fiesty installed reasonably successfully10:12
jpatrickvzduch: is in the help page10:13
vzduchNiceGuyUK: you could try whether CDBurnerXP will run on Vista10:13
* NiceGuyUK only on pre-installed Vista, removing it shortly ;-)10:13
NiceGuyUKthanks for the tips guys10:13
rysiek|plNiceGuyUK: I don't know the whole problem descr, but maybe simply boot-up a live-cd and... k3b? :)10:13
mauriwaylandbill: yes, i would like to use a cd as a removable storage (cut and paste  using dolphin for example10:13
ubuntuwaltzing i have done forum searches and attempted to solve this problem already10:13
WaltzingAlongrysiek|pl: issue is burning the first iso to have the livecd10:14
NiceGuyUKrysiek|pl: its burning that live cd int he first place I'm struggling with ')10:14
rysiek|ploh10:14
NiceGuyUKWaltzingAlong: infra recorder looks like just the thing, thanks for the heads up10:14
vzduchNiceGuyUK: look at that howto, it seems to be exactly what you need10:14
rysiek|plI *knew* I would make a dumbass out of myself ;)10:14
jpatrickvzduch: ;)10:14
waylandbillmauri: source forge has a project called "packet-cd". I have never used it, but it looks like a good place to start your search.10:14
NiceGuyUKhttps://help.ubuntu.10:15
vzduchjpatrick: I didn't know that it also hints at burning in Vista.. and I never used Vista & probably never will :)10:15
WaltzingAlongrysiek|pl: the fear of failure is the real disgrace :D10:15
rysiek|plmauri: *allways* ask Wikipedia... http://www.g-loaded.eu/2005/11/10/packet-writing-on-cdrw-and-dvdrw-media/ :)10:15
jpatrickvzduch: yep, same as me10:15
ubuntuwaltzing  can you get my pm?10:15
rysiek|plWaltzingAlong: well said10:15
jpatrickubuntu: unregistered users cannot pm10:15
ubuntui'm a noob please explain10:15
rysiek|plubuntu, WaltzingAlong: you could always use a new channel - like #ubuwaltz ;) almost like a PM10:16
ubuntui have received a pm - i can not answer?10:16
jpatrickubuntu: nop10:16
rysiek|plubuntu: you have not registered with Freenode10:16
vzduchubuntu: change your nick to something decent and register10:16
ubuntuman this is mid install - how?10:17
rysiek|plubuntu: it really would be easier to just go to #ubuwaltz with WaltzingAlong ;)10:17
ubuntuhow pleasw rysiekjpl10:18
rysiek|plwhat a nice guy, that guy from uk...10:18
jpatrickrysiek|pl: hey! I'm from the UK :(10:18
WaltzingAlongubuntu:  waiting in ^^ #ubuwaltz10:18
rysiek|plubuntu: /join #ubuwaltz10:18
ubuntulol10:18
ubunturys from this window?10:18
rysiek|plubuntu: just type the above in the chat input10:18
WaltzingAlongubuntu:  yes either click the #ubuwaltz or type /join #ubuwaltz10:18
ubunturys ok ty10:19
waylandbill!register10:19
ubotuBy default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration10:19
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Yoshi∕j "tt10:22
WaltzingAlongomg is not acceptable but wanna is? :D10:24
rysiek|pllol! I wanna use omg!!10:24
* rysiek|pl ducks10:24
* rysiek|pl notices nothing happens10:24
* rysiek|pl brb10:24
WaltzingAlong:D10:25
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maurikubuntu does not recognize my webcam, someone are able to help me10:29
Tm_T!webcam | mauri10:30
ubotumauri: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras10:30
mauriTm_T: sorry i dont understand10:31
Tm_Tmauri: look those links10:31
mauriTm_T: sorry where are stored the file for repositories10:37
Tm_Tmauri: you mean sources.list ?10:38
mauriTm_T: yes10:38
Tm_T /etc/apt/sources.list10:39
mauriTm_T: oh thanks......i've have some memory problems :-)10:40
newguyssHi, I use kubuntu, I need to create a site similar to google maps, but with maps I have, any idea where to start, or is there any applications in ubuntu I should look at, I know its not ubuntu question, but iam sure that there is something I can use10:40
noam_hello there, can kopete send SMS messages over ICQ?10:41
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Tm_Tnoam_: sms over ICQ? that sounds, erm, weird10:42
cpk1!sound10:43
jussi01!compiz10:43
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:43
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion10:43
newguyssnoam_: you cannot send sms's over icq, it was working some 4 years ago, but I dont think its working any more10:44
korexрусские есть?10:59
Tm_T!ru | korex10:59
ubotukorex: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke10:59
bobishhhi there11:07
bobishheveryone11:07
bobishhwtf?11:10
bobishhi can't see anything11:10
pagbobishh, what do you mean by not seeing anything?11:10
bobishhwell now I can see =) i though i have a connection problems or smth11:11
bobishhand excuse me for my english11:12
bobishh=)11:12
bobishhi'm from rusiia11:12
bobishhrussia11:12
bobishh=)11:12
pagbobishh, there's #ubuntu-ru for Russian discussion ;)11:13
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bobishhX) thnx11:13
flaccidlinux rules heh11:14
vzduchplus, being from a non-English-speaking country is _not_ an excuse for not speaking proper English :D11:14
WaltzingAlongplus being from an english peaking nation is _not_ an excuse for not using proper english11:15
vzduchWaltzingAlong: indeed11:15
flaccid!indeed11:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about indeed - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:15
vzducho011:15
* Tm_T announces: Today is KDE4-Krushdays, anyone interested to help to fix bugs in KDE4 etc etc, feel free to join #kde4-krush11:19
sammy-afkTm_T: kubuntu only has packages for kde4 beta 3, unless that's changed in the last few hours. will it be a problem that, unless everything is compiled from scratch, that kubuntu testers will be a version behind?11:20
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Tm_T!away > sammy11:20
Tm_Tsammy: I know11:20
Tm_Tsammy: unfortunate, but perhaps we can still help a bit11:21
shampoohi guys11:26
shampoogot a little problem11:26
shampooi want to burn a audio cd with k3b11:26
shampoofrim existing mp3s..11:26
jpatrickinstall libk3b2-mp3 or something like that11:27
shampoothx11:27
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shampooperfekt works, thx again jpatrick11:29
jpatrickshampoo: es ist nichts11:30
shampooöööh11:31
shampoois das n deutscher kanal?11:31
shampoono its not :D11:32
jpatrick!de11:32
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:32
jpatrickshampoo: aber ich kann deutsch ;)11:32
shampooyour name doesnt sound german11:35
jpatrickshampoo: nop, I'm from London11:37
TheWozAhow can i check if my direct render is on?11:37
shampooim sorry @ jpatrick G*11:37
jpatrickit's nothing :)11:37
shampooso there are some english guys which can speak german11:37
shampooi have to tell this to by english stepfather.. he wont believe that :D11:38
shampoos/by/my11:38
shampooglxinfo  @ TheWozA11:38
shampootype glxinfo in the console11:39
TheWozAthx11:39
shampoonp11:40
jpatrick!packaging > Ganon11:40
shampoothe bad guy from legend of zelda?11:41
WaltzingAlongTheWozA: glxinfo | grep -i direct11:42
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Aoyagi_Ritsukaright11:53
Aoyagi_Ritsukatwylight11:53
Aoyagi_Ritsukais now known as Aoyagi_Ritsuka11:53
Aoyagi_Ritsukabecause I'm just that awesome11:53
Aoyagi_Ritsukathat is all11:53
titanix88hi11:58
gan|y|medgood morning11:58
titanix88hi ppl :)11:58
ubunturos!hi | titanix8812:00
ubotutitanix88: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:00
yulachola12:00
titanix88:S12:00
titanix88:s12:00
yulacalguien sabe como configurar matlab para q salga el simbolo ^ ?12:00
ubunturos!gnuoctave12:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnuoctave - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:01
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ubuntuhi can someone help me with something, im kinda a noob12:28
pag!ask | ubuntu12:29
ubotuubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:29
shomikgo ahead12:29
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vit_mmm?12:29
shomikreally12:29
Chickentikkaok, im trying to mount my HD, but its not working12:29
vit_alguien me puede ayudar?12:29
shomiksay more12:30
vit_esto no es compatible con messenger?12:30
pag!es | vit_12:30
ubotuvit_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.12:30
shomikwhat message do yuo get. i presume u are using kubumtu12:30
Chickentikkakubuntu yes,12:31
shomikok which version12:31
Chickentikka:S how do i check?12:31
shomikdo u have internet12:32
Chickentikkayup12:32
shomikof course u do12:32
Chickentikkaotherwise i guess i wont be talking to you12:32
shomikright right12:32
Chickentikkalol ok12:32
vit_jaja12:32
shomikgoogle it then12:32
pagChickentikka, open Konsole, and type lsb_release -a12:32
shomikbecause if it is a recent release then you dont need to mount it12:32
vit_please somebody help me!!!!!!!!!!!12:32
vit_help, help!!!!12:33
pagvit_, with what... you haven't asked your question (in English at least)12:33
Chickentikka 12:33
ChickentikkaDistributor ID: Ubuntu12:33
ChickentikkaDescription:    Ubuntu 7.0412:33
ChickentikkaRelease:        7.0412:33
ChickentikkaCodename:       feisty12:33
shomikif you have a different hard disk scsi or ortherwise it will be found in /media12:33
shomikfine check your explorer go to /media12:34
vit_ok, Im new I want to unload the messenger12:34
Chickentikkaonly the DVD12:34
shomikwhich messenger12:34
vit_but I cant12:34
shomikhmm thats strange12:34
Chickentikkano HD's12:34
shomikwhat hard disk is it external12:35
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Chickentikkano12:35
shomikit is a secondary hard disk?12:35
Chickentikkai have two HDs with windows installed on each12:36
vit_HOTMAIL12:36
vit_live messenger12:36
shomikso let me get this you have two hard disks12:36
shomikone has windows and linux12:36
patricioanyone else experiencing problems with knetworkmanager lately? I can only manually configure the interfaces. it doesn't "see"(hotplug?) when I stick in the ethernet cable and it doesn't list the available wireless-networks nearby. Thank you for your help.12:36
pagvit_, windows applications don't generally work in Kubuntu... Kopete supports MSNM just fine, so why not use it?12:37
shomikand the other has just windows12:37
vit_I dont know12:37
Chickentikkano12:37
patricioI am using gutsy gibbon12:38
Chickentikkatwo HD's12:38
Chickentikkaboth windiws12:38
Chickentikkaand using live CD for kubuntu12:38
shomikwhere is your linus installed12:38
ChickentikkaLive CD12:38
shomiksorry u have to install it12:38
Chickentikkay?12:38
vit_How can I know that?12:39
shomiklive cd wont give you the option12:39
Chickentikkawhats that option, the mount/unmount thing?12:39
shomiksorry wont work with live cd12:39
shomikthere is no support12:39
vit_ohh12:40
Chickentikkaok12:40
Chickentikkaill come back when i install it12:40
shomikok12:40
Greeneryis there any app that works like Japanese IME in windows? I want to be able to type in Japanese12:44
patricioHi there. Anyone else experiencing problems with knetworkmanager lately? I can only manually configure the interfaces. it doesn't "see"(hotplug?) when I stick in the ethernet cable and it doesn't list the available wireless-networks nearby. Thank you for your help. Or else: In which channel would this question be posted better?12:44
gorlakgot a question, about kcron jobs, i am trying to setup a kcron job through the gui, and i think im setting it up right, the trial command i was trying to get kcron to run was /usr/bin/touch sample , but it doesnt seem to be executing. is that the wrong command to place into kcron or would i need something diffrent?12:46
waylandbillgorlak: you should be able to use touch in there.12:48
arash_Greenery - Is Skim what you are looking for?12:49
TheWozAhey guys whats the command to unmount a cdrom and how do i do it as root?12:49
Greeneryi did try Skim but seems like its not working12:49
Greeneryany detail documentation for skim?12:50
gorlakwell i set the cron job and it doesnt create the test file, is there a place i can look for error msges? that would give me a clue on why its not running12:50
gorlakit appears to be running (appears) the other cron jobs that the system made just fine12:50
waylandbillgorlak: maybe try the test file with an absolute path to a directory you can write to?12:51
flaccidsystem or root cron?12:51
flaccidi mean root or user12:51
gorlaktried that too, used this /usr/bin/touch /home/gorlak/sample     that should work in kcron correct?12:52
waylandbillgorlak: yeah. That should work12:52
flaccidi dont see why not12:52
gorlakuser cron12:53
gorlakcron messages can be found in the syslog right?12:54
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flaccidin /var/log/syslog12:55
flaccidyeah12:55
waylandbillshould say that it attempted to run it12:55
flaccidoutput is up to to the cron entry/script to redirect/log the output of stderr/stdout12:56
waylandbillI imagine stdout/stderr could be sent to an email if cron can use sendmail12:56
gorlaki dont see anything in the syslog that outright says error,12:56
bob__waltzingalong you around?12:56
gorlakif it attempted to run the command, should it give the command? like i should see a line in the file somewhere that says /usr/bin/touch...etc12:57
gorlak?12:57
TheWozAhey guys how do i sort this and unmount my cd so i can eject it13:00
TheWozAonly rout can unmount /dev/hdc from media/cdrom013:00
flacciduse something like: /usr/bin/touch /home/gorlak/sample &> /home/gorlak/sample.log13:00
gorlakill put that in and try it, curious what does the &>/home/gorlak/sample.log do? make an output logfile or something for this cron job?13:01
flaccidyep13:01
flaccidhttp://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html13:01
flaccid!bash13:02
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal13:02
waylandbillit's a bash thing to redirect output to a file.13:02
flaccidmake sure the cron entry is using bash for shell13:02
patricioHi there. Anyone else experiencing problems with knetworkmanager lately? I can only manually configure the interfaces. it doesn't "see"(dbus/hal?) when I stick in the ethernet cable and it doesn't list the available wireless-networks nearby, I can only "configure manually", I am using the latest gutsy gibbon. Thank you for your help. I would also like to give debug-output, just tell me where to get it.13:04
gorlakhm, interesting since changing it to use the absolute dir, it seems to be creating the sample file. the only difference from before was i was changing the system time to come to that time period over and over again when it failed to make the file. i didnt think it would keep the cron job from not working.13:05
gorlakthanks13:06
patricionetwork-manager problem: the systray icon doesn't list my wireless accesspoints nearby anymore and does not automatically detect the ethernet cable(and uses dhcp) to connect... I can only go for manual configuration, what is wrong there?13:14
shomikdoes anybody know of a good mp3 player in kubuntu13:19
flaccidamarok or kaffeine13:20
patricioOk, I found some maybe related bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/13740413:20
shomikamarok doesnt support mp313:21
TheWozAanyone help me with cd /tmp; /bin/rm -rf $tmpdir; exit $res: bad trap13:21
shomikkaffeine is too primitive13:21
shomikand what kind of a name is flaccid??13:22
flaccidthere are kind of names?13:22
stone[no]shomik: Well, isn't the mp3 format closed source and subject to restriction? Does any linux player support this as default?13:24
gorlakyou can add in mp3 support to amarok13:24
shomikgorlak: pls tell me how?13:25
gorlakhm, been a while, if you google amarok and mp3 support there are alot of articles, i believe it requires some additional files,13:26
gorlakit was pretty easy to get working actually so you shouldnt have a problem13:26
gorlaki use my amarok for mp3s13:27
emilsedghinstall libxine-ffmpeg1 i think13:27
shomikok t u13:27
gorlakyea its something like that, there is a bunch of pages on how to do it13:28
Tm_T!mp3 | shomik13:29
ubotushomik: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats13:29
shomikk. t u. wll chk it out13:30
Tm_Tshomik: can you use whole words? that is bit hard to read13:30
shomikok. thank you. will keep it in mind13:32
lvjiabinHi,13:35
lvjiabinCan somebody can help me?13:36
Tm_T!helpme13:36
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)13:36
lvjiabinThank you !13:36
lvjiabina ,why the systerm  always slow13:36
dhqi have an ipod nano 8gb how do i get it to work kubuntu13:37
lvjiabinJust i  cant  resist13:37
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Tm_T!ipod | dhq13:37
lvjiabin有中国人不阿?13:37
ubotudhq: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod13:37
Tm_Tlvjiabin: sorry, what is your native language?13:39
lvjiabinChinese13:39
Tm_Toki13:40
Tm_T!ch13:40
lvjiabinSorry13:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:40
Tm_Thmm13:40
Tm_Tlvjiabin: no need to be sorry13:40
lvjiabinyou?where13:40
lvjiabinAh,I know,13:40
dhqTm_T i am on a windows pc can you tell me what all packages i i need for banshee so that it works i need to take it on my flash drive13:40
Tm_Tdhq: no idea13:41
Greenery!cn13:41
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk13:41
Tm_TGreenery: thanks13:41
Greenery^^13:41
lvjiabinHi,the bot is so   clear13:42
lvjiabinah13:42
lvjiabinIs anybody  here13:45
emilsedgh!ask | lvjiabin13:46
ubotulvjiabin: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)13:47
Tm_TBluesKaj: howdy13:54
BluesKajMorning All  :)13:54
BluesKajhi Tm_T13:54
DreskenAnyone knows of a way to install windows on my other HDD after having Kubuntu installed without messing up GRUB?13:57
Tm_TDresken: detach Ubuntu HDD ?13:57
DreskenThat'll work?13:58
kallewhat should i do if my package manager says that the database is blocked?13:58
shampoomh u used sudo @ kalle?13:58
BluesKaj!adeptfix | kalle13:59
ubotukalle: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »13:59
shampoonever mind s*13:59
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kalleit responds:" dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"...14:01
kallethen?14:01
Podrehow are you?14:02
BluesKajkalle, close adept , synaptic or apt14:02
kalleit is closed...14:03
kalle-_-14:03
BluesKajkalle, did you see the message above?14:03
kalleyes14:03
BluesKajalso the adeptfix message ?14:04
TimSI have a freshly installed system from the CD but it gives me an error when updating with tzdata14:05
kalleoh i didn't see it... :D thanks its working now14:06
TimSI have a weird problem, I have a version upgrade button avalibe in a new install of 7.1014:09
TimSlemme restart14:09
WaltzingAlongTimS: that is a known issue14:10
WaltzingAlongadept asking to upgrade to gutsy but your system is gutsy already? it is a known issue. you can grab the fix for it by adding the gutsy-proposed repository, then updating/upgrading (in adept, manage repositories, on the updates tab, select pre-release updates) or just ignore it for now | TimS14:10
BluesKajTimS, http://packages.debian.org/etch/tzdata/all/download14:11
Tm_TBluesKaj: ?14:11
BluesKajnewer debugged sources14:12
BluesKajTimS, some ppl are changing their time zones to Europe/Berlin in order to get the updated package installed....https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/11619314:17
walterhi!14:17
waltercan anybody help me?14:18
BluesKajI guess one can always change the time zone back to their real locale as soon as the pkg is installed14:18
BluesKaj!ask | walter14:18
ubotuwalter: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)14:18
shomikwhats the difference between fiesty fawn and gutsy gibbon14:20
ehird`shomik: gutsy is a newer version14:20
shomikhow do i upgrade to gg from ff14:21
BluesKajshomik, read the Topic above14:21
Jucatoshomik: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade14:22
GoodgameHi is there someone french here?14:22
BluesKaj!fr14:22
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.14:22
shomikk so gg is 7.10 and ff is 7.04??14:22
BluesKajyes14:22
shomikso how do install the gg repository14:24
begerthey, anyone know what the little window is called that shows info when you hover over an application in the panel?14:25
Jucatoshomik: just follow the instructions in the link I gave. all the instructions are there14:25
Jucatobegert: icon mouseover effects14:25
begertsounds good :(14:26
begertheh, I meant :)14:26
Jucatobegert: you're looking for a way to turn those big balloons off?14:26
begertno, i want to see if a bug is reported...I get leftover baloon garbage14:27
Jucatooh..14:27
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m_tadeuhi...I'm having a problem with kaffeine...it's not displaying any subtitles, when using a .sub file14:30
jaymi just changed over from ubuntu and gnome to kubuntu how do i remove gnome completely14:31
jpatrick!purekde | jaym14:31
ubotujaym: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »14:31
jpatrickm_tadeu:14:31
jpatrickhave you enabled the .sub file?14:31
knulfineHI... Can somebody give me the link to a german channel?14:32
m_tadeujpatrick: yup...it's selected and set in the subtitles combo box14:32
jpatrickodd14:32
jpatrick!de | knulfine14:32
ubotuknulfine: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de14:32
knulfinethanks jpatrick14:32
WaltzingAlongdanke14:33
m_tadeujpatrick: it's the first time I try .sub files...srt is working like a charm14:33
jaymcool thanks14:33
jaymhow do i make a shortcut to my home directory on my task bar?14:33
m_tadeujaym: open a konqueror and drag'n'drop the home folder into the taskbar14:34
jaymdidnt think was that easy14:34
jaymk14:34
Jucatojaym: there's one on the panel by default already14:34
Jucatothe System Menu applet (beside the K Menu)14:35
m_tadeuBTW, is that applet editable?14:36
mphAnyone experience same thing? A recent update this week made my system settings applets unable to administer as "ROOT"  I have the actual errors...etc.14:37
tiltanyone can explain me how to instal a .tar.gz?14:37
mphtilt: install? I'm assuming it is all source?14:38
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tiltmph:  i do not know... i  download  this link... http://www.poweriso.com/download.htm    and i'm not able with sudo apt....14:39
mphtilt: let me grab it and take a look14:40
tiltit is the first time that i need to install a prog wich is not in the adept installer14:40
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patricionetwork-manager(kde) does not list my available wireless accesspoints, iwlist ath0 scan DOES, however!syslog output: NM: 11/17/2007 03:13:47 PM padi-laptop NetworkManager<info>  Updating allowed wireless network lists. <WARN>  nm_dbus_get_networks_cb(): error received: org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks - org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks.and later on: dhclient: wifi0: unknown hardware address type 80114:44
BluesKaj!compile | tilt14:44
ubotutilt: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)14:44
m_tadeuanyone else about the kaffeine and the .sub files?14:44
TimSI have a new install of Kubuntu from the live cd that was sent in the post, I have a few adept updates that dont work such as kdelibs and there is a version upgrade button on adept. even though I am running 7.10, what is happening14:45
mphtilt: the tar.gz contains a binary; simply download it; extract it and you can run the poweriso directly14:45
mphtilt: to extract the tar.gz from the command line use:  tar xzf <<filename>>14:46
mphtilt: i'd suggest in your home location you create a 'bin' folder, and put the single file there, then edit your .bashrc and enable the .bin as a folder to which you wish to run binaries directly from any place (bash will lookup in bin)14:47
BluesKajmph, pls let him read the posted UR before telling him how easy it is , cuz compiling can be confusing for ppl new to linux14:47
BluesKajerr URL14:48
mphBluesKaj: there was no compiling necessary14:48
mphBluesKaj: that .tar.gz contained a binary which ran without any libs needed to be installed on my kubuntu desktop14:48
BluesKajmph, pretend yer newbie for a minute and read your previous post above pls14:49
BluesKajI realize that .bin files are easier but ....14:49
WaltzingAlongadept asking to upgrade to gutsy but your system is gutsy already? it is a known issue. you can grab the fix for it by adding the gutsy-proposed repository, then updating/upgrading (in adept, manage repositories, on the updates tab, select pre-release updates) or just ignore it for now | TimS14:50
TimSThanks WaltzingAlong14:50
TimS!adeptfix14:51
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »14:51
tiltmph:  what do you means with a bin folder?14:53
tiltmph:   sorry i crashed.. have you answer my question wet?15:01
DreskenI disabled my Nvidia graphis adapter and restarted, now I'm stuck at command line and when I try startx it shows me "Fatal server error: no screen found"15:04
DreskenAny idea how to resolve this?15:04
ubuntu_any german channel15:04
BluesKajtilt, look in your System Menu/ Home Folder for the file you want to install15:04
BluesKaj!de15:04
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de15:04
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DreskenAnyone? o_o15:05
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BluesKajDresken, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , choose the vesa driver just get back to X15:06
DreskenI'll try that, thanks15:06
mphAnyone experience same thing? A recent update this week made my system settings applets unable to administer as "ROOT"  I have the actual errors...etc.15:06
tiltBluesKaj: at the momment that i open it i crash...15:07
BluesKajtilt, open what ?15:08
mphtilt: did you get my messages?15:09
tiltnop15:09
tiltmph:  no....15:09
tiltBluesKaj:  i extract the files of the .tar.gz i open it and i crash..15:09
tilt[10:09] [DCC] Establishing DCC Chat connection to mph (76.20.242.136:1026)...15:09
tilt[10:09] [Error] Connection broken, error code 10.15:09
mphtilt: I think we are both wondering "what crashed", what is the output, etc.15:10
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tiltthe keyboard the mouse the screen .... i'm obligated to reboot with the button...15:12
mphtilt: I cannot promise the software you are playing with (poweriso) will not crash your machine15:12
tilti think that is wine that make it crash15:12
mphhuh?15:13
WaltzingAlong!iso15:13
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.15:13
mphtilt: why are you using wine?15:13
tilti'm not using it.. but when i open the extrated files wine start... and after it freeze15:14
mphtilt: I am gathering from WaltzingAlong that you are trying to mount an iso?15:14
BluesKajtilt, try kiso or acetoneiso ...poweriso is a windows app : hence, unstable in linux15:16
tiltit is an .aad15:16
tiltso  k3b do not open it...15:17
Daisuke-Idonope15:17
Daisuke-Idoand .daa are poweriso archived things15:17
tiltand kiso i'm not able to instal it i got always an error...15:18
Daisuke-Idoyour only real option is to use poweriso in wine or virtualized15:18
tiltpoweriso got an linux version...15:18
Daisuke-Idowow, it would appear there is15:19
WaltzingAlongPowerISO for Linux -- This is a free utility for linux which can extract, list, and convert image files              - then there should be no need of wine15:19
tilt...15:20
BluesKajok, din't know that. trial version tho15:20
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tiltjust by opening wine i always crash...15:21
BluesKajdon't open wine15:22
BluesKajuninstall wine , relogin ,reinstall wine15:22
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DreskenWell fixed that issue, thanks for the help15:23
tiltcrash again opening wine...15:24
BluesKajDresken , what graphics again ?15:24
tiltso wath i should do...15:25
BluesKajuninstall wine15:25
BluesKajmost apps in windows have "linux equivalents" most users can get along without wine15:26
mphtilt: what do you want to do?15:26
dresken__BluesKaj: Nvidia15:27
dresken__brb restarting15:27
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ardchoilleBluesKaj: Indeed.15:28
tiltok it got uninstalled15:28
ardchoilleI have been using Linux since 2001 and haven't touched Windows apps, or Windows itself, since then.15:29
jasonagoI enabled the nvidia-glx-new drivers in my kubuntu gutsy but the problem is that it doesnt preserve my screen resolution when I restart...It always reverts to 43hz with a distorted monitor view...I always need to run nvidia-settings before it will load again my settings...what will I do???15:29
tiltardchoille:  have you extract a .daa with linux?15:30
mphanyone else sharing issues with systemsettings not kicking into admin mode?15:30
ardchoilletilt: No, I've never heard of a .daa file15:30
dthackermph: kind of a meta question. got a specific setting in mind?15:30
tiltardchoille:  it is like an .iso ..15:31
jasonagomph: I have experience some of that in gutsy but never in feisty...I always see feisty as better than gutsy...15:31
dthackermph: wait, I misread that. sorry15:31
BluesKajwow, ardchoille ...I need windows for document and photo scanning ...unfortunately kooka isn't up to the task yet. But that really the only reason i still have a small windows partition.15:31
dthackermph: so you press admin mode button, enter pw and it hangs?15:31
mphdthacker: doesn't hang, i get error msgs like this:  kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!15:32
BluesKajmph, run, sudo dpkg --configure -a ..then logout and back in again15:33
mphBluesKaj: done....be back....15:33
dthackerBluesKaj: that looks like a handy little widget of a command.  Do you think a database is corrupted?15:34
mphdthacker: hold that thought...i wanted to understand the problem :)15:34
mphbrb...15:34
dthackerok:)15:34
BluesKajmph dthacker then run , sudo updatedb15:34
WaltzingAlongjasonago: it could be that the driver cannot handle more at that resolution. in konsole, xrandr15:35
liamhi15:35
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BluesKaj!hi | liam__15:37
ubotuliam__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!15:37
TheGentlemanOpening AdeptManager I get an error message saying "Another process is using the packaging system database"   Checked using KSysGuard, but I can't find anything running with adept or apt in its name.  What could I do?15:37
tilthow instal the extracted file?15:37
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BluesKaj!compile | tilt15:38
ubotutilt: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)15:38
WaltzingAlong!aptfix | adept aptitude apt-get dpkg any of those?15:39
ubotuadept aptitude apt-get dpkg any of those?: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:39
BluesKaj!adeptfix | TheGentleman15:39
ubotuTheGentleman: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:39
mphsame ... it did not resolve the issue.  I wish I knew what pkg it was.15:39
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JohnFluxTheGentleman: you could do:  lsof  | grep dpkg      to see if that shows the process15:39
vandal2anyone know how ti make characters appear one at a time in a bas script?15:39
vandal2**bash15:40
JohnFluxvandal2: bas?15:40
JohnFluxoh15:40
WaltzingAlongvandal2: #bash ?15:40
vandal2sorry, cant spell15:40
vandal2tis bash15:40
WaltzingAlongsure but maybe check in that channel rather than in #kubuntu support15:40
TheGentlemanwell, I have lots of info to work on now BluesKaj , ubotu  and JohnFlux !!!   See you later15:40
JohnFluxvandal2: for f in   h e l l o ; do echo -n $f; sleep 1; done15:40
linas_huh, mine fn(i`m using laptop) keys aren`t working on kubuntu :/15:40
vandal2cheers :)15:40
BluesKajmph, another trick might work , synaptic /edit/fix broken pkgs /apply ...sometimes it works or generates errors that we can take a look at15:41
mphBluesKaj: ok....I think it has something to do with a file or there lackof in /etc/qt3/15:42
dthackermph: also googling generates this scenario http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15119315:43
tiltBluesKaj:  it always said E: Couldn't find package poweriso15:43
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BluesKajtilt, where did you download the pkg to ?15:44
WaltzingAlongtilt: poweriso is not available in the ubuntu repos. you would need to download it directly from poweriso's website as the tar.gz15:44
tiltWaltzingAlong:  i got it..15:44
wolf8中文支持测试15:44
tiltWaltzingAlong:  i got it extracted....15:44
mphdthacker: i will try updating the owners and perms on .kde also15:45
tiltWaltzingAlong: and now i don't know what to do with the extracted file15:45
ardchoilleThere are samba updates in security.. I hope this fixes the recent 403 bug15:45
crimsunardchoille: they are the updated ones, yes.15:45
dthackermph: good luck.15:45
ardchoillecrimsun: :)15:45
crimsun     samba | 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.2 | gutsy-security | source, amd64, i386, powerpc15:45
jasonagowhy does kubuntu doesn't include some kde games and gimp by default in the CD installer? Does KDE really bigger than gnome?15:46
ardchoillejasonago: gimp is not a kde app15:46
WaltzingAlongjasonago: cd is only so big you know15:46
dthackerjasonago: the goal is to get you a working desktop with the most populare apps15:46
jasonagouhm...ok...15:47
ardchoillejasonago: And you can only fit so much data on a cd iso.. but you can installthem from the repos just as easily15:47
wolf8how to config arts? the v ersion of my os is 7.1015:47
WaltzingAlongtilt: ok so you downloaded http://www.poweriso.com/poweriso-1.1.tar.gz to /home/tilt/Desktop for example. then in konsole extracted the files  with tar xfvz poweriso-1.1.tar.gz        which should have just one new file 'poweriso'        so then run it with ./poweriso in konsole15:47
jasonagook ok thanks...15:47
dthackerjason: installing the gimp and games is usually quick and easy.15:47
jasonagoyes from adept...15:47
TheGentleman!adeptfix15:47
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:47
BluesKaj!arts | wolf815:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about arts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:47
wolf8thanks15:48
wolf8this is a wonderful world~~15:49
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wolf8:)15:49
DreskenAny idea why I can't create an ntfs partition on another HDD using GParted?15:49
ksalhi15:49
tiltWaltzingAlong:15:49
tiltPowerISO   Copyright(C) 2004-2006 PowerISO Computing, Inc15:49
tilt            Type poweriso -? for help15:49
ksalwhen new kubuntu will be available?15:50
tiltand it all15:50
Daisuke_Idoyeah, because it's ntfs15:50
Daisuke_Idoksal: in 5-6 months, one was just released15:50
Jucatoksal: April 200815:50
DreskenOk let me rephrase the question, is there  a way to create an ntfs partition under linux?15:50
ksalugh15:50
ksalthank15:50
denzukohi all15:50
Daisuke_Idowhat's the ugh for?15:50
ksalDresken, ntfs is fully supported by kernel15:50
ksalDaisuke_Ido, nevermind15:51
Daisuke_Idoksal: since when?15:51
JucatoDresken, Daisuke_Ido: afaik, GParted should be able to do that15:51
WaltzingAlongtilt: exactly. ./poweriso -?             shows you how to use it15:51
ksalsince long time15:51
dthackerhello denzuko15:51
Daisuke_Idoreally...15:51
ksalntfs-3g15:51
denzukohi dt15:51
tiltnice  it got no graphical interface... ok thx i understand now15:51
DreskenJucato: Well the option to create an ntfs partition is grayed out on GParted..15:51
JucatoDresken, Daisuke_Ido: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php15:51
Daisuke_Idoso it's not natively supported by the kernel15:51
TheGentlemanBluesKaj, still about adeptfix: I did what suggested. Now Adept manager opens WITHOUT asking for password. When trying to update a package it says there was an error with the package.15:52
Daisuke_Idoneat15:52
Daisuke_Idohowever, why ntfs?15:52
Daisuke_Ido!ext315:52
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org15:52
ksalDaisuke_Ido, it's just not compiled into kernel15:52
WaltzingAlongTheGentleman: jump to konsole so you see adequate output. sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -f install            (update and fix any dependency errors)15:53
WaltzingAlong!ntfs-3g15:53
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions15:53
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FSHeroHi all: I'm using Amarok with a MySQL database. Where is the database file(s) actually located?15:53
TheGentlemanthanks WaltzingAlong15:53
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WaltzingAlongFSHero: in the mysql db. /var/lib/mysql/ perhaps15:55
FSHeroo i c15:55
BluesKajTheGentleman, there's a 10 min time perios after entering one PW that opening pkg managers etc is allowed without re-entering it.15:55
dthackerFSHero: likely in /var/lib/mysql/mysql15:55
FSHeroWaltzingAlong: thanks, yes, they're all here :)15:55
TimSWaltzingAlong: How do I install nVidia drivers (glx-new) in gutsy?15:55
BluesKajused to be 10 mins , not sure what the default is in gutsy15:56
dthacker!nvidia | TimS15:56
ubotuTimS: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto15:56
WaltzingAlongTimS: using the restricted drivers manager. kmenu/system settings/advanced/restricted manager15:56
wolf8how to choose the chanel in this tool?15:56
WaltzingAlongwolf8: /join #nameofchannel15:56
dresken_Thanks, that link solved my issue =P15:56
wolf8thanks  ,~~15:57
wolf8WaltzingAlong ~~this is the first time to use it15:57
TheGentlemanBluesKaj, and WaltzingAlong  Thanks a lot!  I could solve my problem.15:58
WaltzingAlongTheGentleman: congrats15:58
WaltzingAlongwolf8: otherwise you could click the name #ubuntu should work in konversation15:58
dthackerbbl15:59
dutuhiho16:00
wolf8thank you ~~this is a free space, i like it , english talking is to hard to me ~~16:00
wolf8its bad16:01
WaltzingAlongwolf8: which channel would you like (language)? :D16:01
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dutusomeone who can help me wit a question to xdcc16:01
dutuim seaching a linux tool like xdcc catcher16:01
FroggyTheGreatIs there a HDD-checker program on the Kubuntu 7.10 livecd?  I can't immediately find one in the UI, and I don't know what the commandline would be.16:02
dutui found xdcc fetch but im to stupid to install it16:02
WaltzingAlongFroggyTheGreat: smart tools?16:02
ubuntuthere is any channel in another language, i.e. spanish or italian?16:02
WaltzingAlong!find smart | FroggyTheGreat16:02
ubotufroggythegreat: Found: libgdome2-cpp-smart-dev, libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a, smartdimmer, smartmontools, xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin (and 16 others)16:02
WaltzingAlong!es | ubotu16:02
ubotuubotu: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.16:02
WaltzingAlong!it | ubuntu16:02
ubotuubuntu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!16:02
ubuntuThanks a lot! Muchas Gracias!  Molto Grazie!16:03
ardchoilledutu: What does xdcc do?16:03
WaltzingAlongubuntu: :D16:03
TimSWaltzingAlong: What package do I need to install to change the login screen again?16:03
ardchoillekdmtheme16:04
TimSAh, thanks16:04
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ardchoilleyw16:04
FroggyTheGreatSo I'd do a n apt-get install smartmontools.16:04
wolf8chinese ,but i want to exchanges with others in different national16:05
TimSsudo apt-get install smartmontools16:05
ubuntuThis is the first time that i use the IRC channels. Now I understand why people talks so good about them! See you Soon16:05
ubuntuOne last question, please.. How can I change my nickname. I am using Konversation from Kubuntu Gutsy live cd16:06
Daisuke_Idoubuntu: type /nick newname16:06
Daisuke_Idowhatever you want your name to ne :)16:06
wolf8i need a english guide16:06
ardchoilleDoes konv allow "/nick new_nick" ?16:06
Daisuke_Idowithin reason, of course16:06
wolf8~_~16:06
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Sierra-Xit certainly does :)16:07
ardchoilleSierra-X: ok16:07
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ubuntuthank you Daisuke_ldo!!16:07
Daisuke_Idoyou're welcome16:07
TimSTime to restart16:07
TimSbrb16:07
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ubuntu_hello16:08
dututest 1234 :-)16:08
Gizgizfilled.inbox@gmail.com16:08
wolf8WaltzingAlong thanks~~16:09
WaltzingAlong!chinese | wolf816:09
ubotuwolf8: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk16:09
wolf8please tell me the mean of " !chinese | wolf8"                  answer|asker?16:11
wolf8ubuntu thanks16:12
wolf8~~16:12
TimSwolf8: It tells the bot to tell you about chinese help16:12
FroggyTheGreatAnyone know the direct link to plain-html gmail so that Konqueror will load it?16:13
mphsame problem with systemsettings....the broken pkgs did not resolve the issue, nor did the chown on .kde16:13
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wolf8~_~16:13
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wolf8ubotu thankyou~~16:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thankyou~~ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:13
mphwhere can i better understand how .kde functions with regards to .kde/systemsettings and i imagine kio? i can google it too, but someone knows a good ref?16:14
O5K4|2thanks everybody! I leave the channel!! XD16:14
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FroggyTheGreat!smartmontools16:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smartmontools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:19
FroggyTheGreatAnyone know how to launch smartmontools once I've installed it?16:19
FroggyTheGreat!smart16:19
ubotusmart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager16:19
emilsedghkpackage (at least in kde4) uses smart16:21
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TimSUsing the nVidia drivers freezes my PC. It happens at random intervals and I think its a problem with my Graphics card, But I am not sure. Is there a way to check? It freezes my PC on Kubuntu but it did on Fedora aswell16:24
WaltzingAlongTimS: check applicable logs; different versions of the same module/driver; use 'nv' or 'vesa' when you desire no lockups   !nvidia16:25
khumba-yomoin16:27
arianehi. i'm trying to emulate games with mupen64. i downloaded roms and unzipped them but when i try to run them with mupen64, nothing happens. could someone help me fix that please?16:27
khumba-yobye @ll16:31
BluesKajariane, which version did you install , the command line or the gui ?16:31
arianeBluesKaj: of mupen64 ? i have the 0.5.1-116:32
arianeBluesKaj: my version of kamefu is the 0.1.116:33
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BluesKajariane, type mupen64 in the konsole16:39
Daisuke_Idobazhang: too many "i think i know everything" morons over there.  can't see how you can stand it16:39
Jucatoemilsedgh: kpackages is maintained again? O.o16:40
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: hehe--just a change of pace :} still looking for a fix for your sound issue--do you get any specific messages--like no device found ,etc?16:40
BluesKajDaisuke_Ido, helpful types eh ..."i got linux chops and you don't so too bad "16:40
Daisuke_Idoamarok's giving me "Audio output unavailable; the device is busy.  xine parameters:"16:42
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: ok, will continue to look.16:42
BluesKajDaisuke_Ido, that message usually means the libxine1-ffmpeg app isn't installed16:43
Daisuke_IdoBluesKaj: i can assure you it is :)16:43
Daisuke_Idoit's been working fine for months16:43
Daisuke_Idoi get no sound in ANY app16:43
BluesKajuhoh16:44
Daisuke_Idoeven vlc, which is odd16:44
Daisuke_Idobut i have my startup sounds16:44
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: initial indications are that several items are trying to share the card--numerous bug reports filed with that card (from Feisty onwards)--will see if there is a fix16:45
arianeBluesKaj: ooh. tells me i've got a couple of plugins uninstalled16:46
Daisuke_Idolet's see what could be locking the sound system16:47
BluesKajyeah launch amarok from the shell16:47
Daisuke_Idoi can launch amarok fine, i just can't play anything :)16:48
pacmanI'm trying to set up my torrents so I don't actually save the torrent, it automatically opens in KTorrent and begins downloading16:49
pacmanhow do I set that up?16:49
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: is this onboard or pci?16:49
Daisuke_Idoonboard16:49
Daisuke_IdoQString::arg(): Argument missing: <p>Audio output unavailable; the device is busy.<p>xine parameters: <i></i>, file:///media/Music/A/Air/Talkie Walkie/02 - Cherry blossom girl.mp316:49
BluesKajhate to statre the obvious but have you checked soundsystem settings and the kmix16:49
Daisuke_Idoyes and yes16:49
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: have you checked the bios--it might be disabled there16:50
BluesKajok, try a diff tune :)16:50
Timmy|awayI have installed the nVidia driver, but it doesnt work, I am now in recovery mode, whats the command to change drivesr, is something like dpkg-reconfigure16:50
Daisuke_Idobazhang: how can it be disabled in the bios if i haven't rebooted and it worked yesterday?16:50
Daisuke_IdoBluesKaj: everything has the same result16:51
bazhangsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg Timmy|away16:51
BluesKajwav files too ?16:52
Daisuke_Idoyup16:52
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: just trying a step by step of the comprensive sound card guide on ubuntuforums--sorry if some of this stuff is obvious or wrong--just trying to nail down the problem :}16:52
Daisuke_Idowav, ogg, mp316:52
Daisuke_Idobazhang: no worries16:52
martintHi, how can I extract a zip file keeping its former permissions16:53
martint?16:53
martintthanks16:53
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: what does aplay -l say in the terminal?16:53
emilsedghJucato: i think...16:53
Jucatoemilsedgh: that would be a surprising (maybe even good) news to me... although all eyes seem to be on PackageKit these days16:54
emilsedghJucato: it now depends on Smart16:54
Jucatooh.. Smart.... :/16:54
Daisuke_Idobazhang: http://pastebin.ca/77849316:54
Timmy|awaythanks bazhang I dont think its what I used last time, there were loads of options this time, before it was just the driver options, not mouse and keyboard16:54
emilsedghJucato: Adept... :P16:54
Jucatoemilsedgh: at least it's not fully python... :P16:55
emilsedghhehe16:55
emilsedghJucato: i have no problem with being python, the UI!16:55
Jucatoemilsedgh: all of smart is python afaik. backend (non-UI) and UI16:56
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: does that list sound cards? --can't access that page for some reason16:56
Daisuke_Idoyeah, playback devices16:56
bazhangok16:56
martintHi, how can I extract a zip file keeping its former permissions (if possible at all)16:57
emilsedghJucato: is there any plan for updating the Adept's UI?16:57
jpatrickemilsedgh: yep16:57
emilsedghjpatrick: just tell me 'when'!16:57
Jucatojpatrick, emilsedgh: that largely depends on Ubuntu-dom switching over to PackageKit... so we're in a sort of standstill16:58
Daisuke_Idohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44902/16:58
emilsedghJucato: ubuntu wants to switch on packagekit?16:58
jpatrickemilsedgh: you didn't ask for that :)16:58
Jucatoemilsedgh: not reading FOSSCamp news are you? :P16:58
Jucatoemilsedgh: not really "wants to" but "looking into it"16:58
emilsedghJucato: no im not, i read osnews and kdeDot :D16:59
Jucatoos..what?16:59
Jucatobah nvm :P16:59
emilsedghhehe16:59
Timmy|awayJucato: How do i replace one file with another?16:59
emilsedghJucato: what about Debian?16:59
Timmy|awayOn the comand line16:59
emilsedghJucato: the want to go to packagekit too?16:59
emilsedghthey*16:59
Jucatoemilsedgh: I dunno16:59
Jucatono news from them so far17:00
Jucatos/news/rumor/17:00
JucatoTimmy|away: what do you mean?17:00
Timmy|awayI want to delete one file and replace it with another on the command line17:00
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Jucatojust delete it and create a new file?17:00
Timmy|awayThe new file already exists, its a back up, I want to restor it17:01
Timmy|awayIm in recovery mode17:01
Jucatomv oldname newname17:01
Jucatothat "renames" a file17:01
Timmy|awayThanks, that should do17:01
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: have you launched alsamixer in Konsole, then made sure it works with each reboot --code: sudo alsactl store 017:02
ubuzztuinstalled kubuntu dualboot with xp on T60p working like a charm17:03
vbgunzubuzztu: you have a lenovo T60 thinkpad?17:03
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ubuzztuyes17:03
BluesKajwhat's the best app to record analog audio on line-in ?17:03
vbgunzubuzztu: do you use the little external mouse with that notebook?17:03
Daisuke_Idolaunching it made no difference whatsoever17:04
ubuzztuvbgunz: no17:04
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: audacity17:04
BluesKajyeah , audacity is ok , but I just need something simpler17:04
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: what engine do have enabled with amarok?17:04
vbgunzubuzztu: damn... I have the same notebook, with the external mouse. the mouse has a bug where in Windows and Linux it just takes off by itself... sucks hard core when playing games like Portal... it spins out... worse mouse ever17:04
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: Krecord17:04
adamHello, need some help17:05
ubuzztuvbgunz: bummer...17:05
ubuzztustepping out... later..17:05
Daisuke_Idoxine17:05
Jotiwhat do you think on that new dolphin file manager?17:05
* BluesKaj checks out krecord17:05
nosrednaekim!info krecord17:05
ubotukrecord: KDE sound recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.16-3 (gutsy), package size 66 kB, installed size 308 kB17:05
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: have you tried any others--or is that the only option17:06
Daisuke_Idoxine engine, autodetect output plugin17:06
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: I may be thinking of krec, one of them is an arts soud recorder and doesn't work too well.17:06
Daisuke_Idothat's the only option - even after installing amarok-engines17:06
vbgunzJoti: imho, all the time spent on reinventing the wheel could have gone into fixing, enahcing and crushing bugs in Konqueror :(17:06
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: have you tried installing alsa-oss?17:06
Daisuke_Idovbgunz: dolphin isn't reinventing the wheel17:07
bazhangmore like breaking it17:07
Daisuke_Idodolphin and konqueror serve two completely different purposes17:07
vbgunzDaisuke_Ido: it is a file manager no?17:07
adamcan anyone help with a failed upddate, left me with blank screen flashing cursor17:07
nosrednaekimadam: ctrl+alt+f2 do anything?17:07
Daisuke_Idovbgunz: it's not a browser, and it's not as fine grained as konqueror17:07
bazhangadam: from feisty to gutsy?17:07
adamdont like dolphin17:07
Daisuke_Idoadam: what you don't like is d3lphin17:07
vbgunzDaisuke_Ido: yeah Dolphin is for those who should be on Gnome and Konqueror is for those who like KDE :)17:07
adamyes, Ican get to tty17:07
Jotivbgunz exactly thats what17:08
Timmy|awayI have a problem. I cannot start x at all. I installed the latest nVidia drivers, it worked, I restarted, nothing happend. I sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and tried the nv and vesa drivers, what should I do? Can I make it automaticly redetect xorg.conf? It worked when i first installed Kubuntu17:08
adamcannot boot to GUI17:08
bazhangadam: have you tried to continue update?17:08
Gannondorfneed help installing kdm-theme-manager17:08
nick_Hey everyone, I'm doing a manual backup and I wanted to know if there is a way I can get the command line to display all the files created after a certain day17:08
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: does amarok engines include alsa-oss?17:09
Jotii especially hate that there is now decent adress bar anymore but that gnome adress-click-o-bar-straight-frome-the-stoneage17:09
Daisuke_Idovbgunz: no, and your attitude toward other DEs is despicable to say the least.  wait for kde4 before passing judgement on dolphin, because what's in the repos right now?  it sucks, and sucks hard.  the actual dolphin is quite nice17:09
vbgunzTimmy|away: what do you when it comes to X? a blinking cursor or something?17:09
WaltzingAlongTimmy|away: restore your backup. otherwise check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out why X failed.17:09
Gannondorfchecking for KDE... configure: error:17:09
Gannondorfin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.17:09
GannondorfSo, check this please and use another prefix!17:09
Daisuke_IdoJoti: it's a little more advanced than gnome's17:09
Timmy|awayWaltzingAlong: The backup doesnt work, Ill try again.17:09
Timmy|awayvbgunz: I dont even get a cursor, just a black screen17:09
WaltzingAlongTimmy|away: check the log          less /var/log/Xorg.0.log17:09
emilsedghJucato: i never want ubuntu goes to packagekit if debian doesnt17:10
Timmy|awayOk WaltzingAlong17:10
Gannondorf!paste17:10
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: just trying to help--alsa-oss installed?17:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:10
Daisuke_Idobazhang: was reaming someone else :)17:10
Daisuke_Idochecking17:10
Jotidaisuke_ido: yes it may be, but it still dont like it. first thing that gets off my machine on any install17:10
bazhanghehe17:10
Jucatoemilsedgh: hm?17:11
Gannondorfcan someone help me out?17:11
Daisuke_Idoit is installed, yes17:11
emilsedghJucato: i only want ubuntu uses packagekit, if debian goes too packagekit too17:11
vbgunzDaisuke_Ido: the reason I switched to KDE was because of how much greater it really is. I say that after a year on Gnome and less than a year on KDE. I aint just dissing Gnome. truth is, Dolpin is so simple, that is the first impression I get from it. it doesn't belong in KDE. even if it had more options than Konqueror, what is the point in 2 file managers? why not 3 or 4 or 5? I think 1 is enough right now :)17:11
Daisuke_Idovbgunz: have you used dolphin yet?17:11
Gannondorfhelp with compiling errors17:12
Gannondorfhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44903/17:12
Daisuke_Idoand linux = choice.  more than one filemanager?  sure!  pick your favorite!17:12
adamTried dpkg --configure -a it finished installing packages and killed my boot into old kernel17:12
Jucatoemilsedgh: PackageKit isn't a replacement for .deb/APT17:12
vbgunzI used it for a little bit when setting up new accounts. I don't even switch it out for Konqueror becasue konqueror is my preference. the new accoutns I've set up I let stand and don't even mention konqueror.17:12
emilsedghJucato: i know17:12
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: what about grep 'audio' /etc/group17:12
Daisuke_Idoaudio:x:29:sierra-x,writerone17:13
bazhangok17:13
Jotimy first impression was: worst of osx (finder "click through multiple panels") , windows (strange usability), gnome (that adressbar) together in one thing...17:13
Daisuke_Idovbgunz: so you've installed the latest kde4 beta and used DOLPHIN, rather than d3lphin17:13
Gannondorfsomeone help me with kdm theme manager error17:13
Jotikonqueror is lovely17:13
emilsedghJucato: Ubuntu = Debian For Desktop (to me)17:13
Daisuke_Idowhat's default on gutsy is, AGAIN, not dolphin17:13
Jotijust like kde17:13
nick_Hey everyone, I'm doing a manual backup and I wanted to know if there is a way I can get the command line to display all the files created on or after a certain day17:14
Gannondorfsomeone help me with kdm theme manager error17:14
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vbgunzDaisuke_Ido: no KDE4. I am speaking about 3.5.8 Dolphin.17:14
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ardchoillevbgunz: If you used it in kde3.5.8, then what you used was d3lphin, a fork of dolphin. I'm told the real dolphin is much better17:14
Daisuke_Idovbgunz: then i share your feelings, it's crap17:14
Jotikde4 preview looks lovely too17:14
Daisuke_Idothe real dolphin *is* much better17:14
Gannondorfsomeone help me with kdm theme manager error17:14
Timmy|awayIs it possible to make a list of all packages installed and then use it install thoes packages on a fresh install?17:14
emilsedghDolphin in 3.5.8 is real dolphin! just an older version...17:14
Gannondorf!kdm-theme-manager17:14
Daisuke_Ido!patience | Gannondorf, stop repeating yourself and read this:17:15
ubotuGannondorf, stop repeating yourself and read this:: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines17:15
BluesKajDaisuke_Ido, maybe your soundcard is out of the mix  cat /proc/asound/cards17:15
WaltzingAlongthe kde4 dolphin is "a much better" dolphin than the kde358 dolphin (but still dolphin, not konqueror for those who liked that)17:15
Jotidaisuke_ido then i'm really intrested how the real dolphin may look...17:15
WaltzingAlongi just finished building kde4beta4 here from svn.17:15
Daisuke_Idoit has a much cleaner kde-like interface, for one17:15
emilsedghWaltzingAlong: then thats not Beta4! thats svn :P17:16
Daisuke_Ido 0 [CK804          ]: NFORCE - NVidia CK80417:16
Daisuke_Ido                      NVidia CK804 with ALC850 at irq 1717:16
* Joti thinks that d3lphin may ruin the reputation of the real dolphin in advanc17:16
vbgunzDaisuke_Ido: yeah maybe it was a bad move on Kubuntus part. I just see no point in introducing a new app that does the same thing and when compared is inferior to the latter17:16
WaltzingAlongbut of course emilsedgh17:16
emilsedghWaltzingAlong: so what do you think?17:16
Daisuke_Idovbgunz: d3lphin is most definitely inferior to konqueror.  dolphin is - depending on what you do.17:16
Daisuke_Idoit's not a browser17:16
WaltzingAlongemilsedgh: just trying out an app here and there ... coming along nicely it seems17:16
Daisuke_Idoit doesn't need to be, though, it's *just* a file manager17:16
GannondorfNeed help with compiling error with kdm theme manager17:17
Daisuke_IdoGannondorf: is listening too difficult for you?17:17
Gannondorfyes17:17
emilsedghWaltzingAlong: most of the apps except Konqueror, Kopete and 1-2 others are in a very good shape17:17
MinatakuGannondorf: What's the error?17:17
Gannondorfhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44903/17:17
ardchoilleTimmy|away: It's something like: dpkg --get-selections > packages.txt && sudo dpkg --set-selections << packages.txt  Check out man dpkg (--get-selectins and --set-selections)17:17
MinatakuOh17:17
Daisuke_Idoso install kde theme manager from the repos17:18
MinatakuYou're lacking the pieces of KDE needed to compile it17:18
Gannondorfwhich are?17:18
Daisuke_Ido!kdetheme17:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdetheme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:18
MinatakuI'm not sure17:18
Daisuke_Ido!info kdetheme17:18
ubotuPackage kdetheme does not exist in gutsy17:18
Daisuke_IdoBAH17:18
Minataku!kde-libs-dev17:18
Jucato!info kdmtheme | Gannondorf17:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde-libs-dev - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:18
ardchoille!kdmtheme17:18
ubotugannondorf: kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 47 kB, installed size 200 kB17:18
MinatakuHm17:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdmtheme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:18
Jotidoes anyone know if there is a nice alternative to gimp - maybe for kde?17:18
Daisuke_Idokdmtheme :D17:18
MinatakuYou could also just install the binary package17:18
Daisuke_Idothank you ardchoille17:18
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: perhaps a purge and reinstall of the sound items: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils17:18
Jotigimp's interface is just plain horrible17:18
Gannondorfminataku: there's a binary?17:18
MinatakuWhich will be a lot easier, unless there's a specific reason you need to compile it17:18
MinatakuYes17:19
Daisuke_IdoJoti: write one that's better17:19
GannondorfI was un aware17:19
MinatakuIt's kdmtheme17:19
Minataku!repos17:19
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu17:19
Jucatokdm theme manager is not the same as kde theme manager17:19
ehird`Joti: yes, there is. I do forget the name.17:19
MinatakuMake sure you have all the repositories enabled17:19
Jotipossibly not my language17:19
JucatoMinataku: that's basically no longer necessary, since universe and multiverse are enabled by default :)17:19
Minatakukdmtheme is in universe17:19
Gannondorfyeah...17:19
MinatakuJucato: He may be on an older version17:19
Jotithat would be cool. i don't need that much features but a faster ui17:19
Gannondorfthere it goes17:20
Gannondorfthanks17:20
Minatakunp17:20
Jotilike paint.net vs. photoshop17:20
JucatoMinataku: dapper and older would be the only ones. but yeah17:20
Daisuke_IdoJoti: krita might be for you17:20
WaltzingAlongemilsedgh: what was the replacement for kdrc?17:20
adamFeisty, I think the kernel update hosed me and I  am not sure how to recover.17:20
Jotii'll try that17:21
emilsedghWaltzingAlong: krdc? no replacment, its just improved, thats in kdenetwork try it17:21
Daisuke_Idoi'm about to pull some hair out here...17:22
ardchoillelol17:22
ardchoilleDaisuke_Ido: Don't do it!17:22
WaltzingAlongemilsedgh: (yes not beta4, but from svn, though application/help/about kde reports beta4)17:22
Daisuke_Idoespecially if i find out that this thing i've been checking every 10 minutes or so is the source of my problems :\17:23
emilsedghWaltzingAlong: yes thats marked as beta417:23
Daisuke_Idobecause the sound issues correspond with starting that...17:23
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: then a reinstall via: sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils17:23
Daisuke_IdoWoW downloader.17:23
Daisuke_Idowine17:23
Daisuke_Idoprobably screwing my sound17:23
* Daisuke_Ido takes a small bow17:23
Daisuke_Idothank you folks, i'm an idiot.17:23
Daisuke_Idoi'm going to hold off on the whole purge and reinstall until that finishes17:24
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: if that still doesn't work, then perhaps--sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source (assuming you have the build-essentials installed).17:24
MinatakuHm17:24
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: ok. let me know if I can help out any further.17:25
Daisuke_IdoMinataku: not a word from you :P  some friends at work talked me into checking out the free trial :D17:25
Level15hey... i need a hand getting my bt headset to work... anyone with any experience on this?17:25
MinatakuHuh?17:26
MinatakuOh, no, I was just making noises17:27
Jotidaisuke_ide thanks i suppose krita was just the right suggestion :)17:27
Daisuke_Idok17:27
MinatakuI'm trying to get an alternate input method working17:27
Daisuke_Idokrita's nice17:27
MinatakuSo I can type in Japanese17:27
Daisuke_Idoah17:27
patricioSyslog writes: <WARN>  nm_dbus_get_networks_cb(): error received: org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks - org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks. When I try to get a list of the available networks (wireless ap's and ethernet cable plugged) using networkmanager-kde succeder of knetworkmanager (but inherited the name obviously). So my list is not being generated. What I found strange too: wpa_supplicant was not running. I 17:29
patricio /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf to get my wireless running17:29
andresjhello, anybody know how to write the ux in esperanto? it's the u with a diactrical mark similar to a flattened u, or a backwards ^.17:29
patricioBut this is old school, the automated way using knetworkmanager and they kdewallet for the keys etc. was great, why did this stop working?17:29
andresjit's name is u-breve.17:30
GuyFromHellAnyone know of something i could use that can manage my vpn connection, specifically automatically run 'vpnc' when i have wireless to a specific ssid. I've tried network-manager-vpnc and kvpnc but neither work, just 'vpnc' in console works fine though.17:31
GuyFromHellcan it just be done at some shell script level maybe?17:31
Jotido i have to do any additional stuff to get network-manager working with pptp other than installing network-manager-pptp?17:32
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darrylHi Guys, I am using NX Client on my Windows Laptop to connect to my Ubuntu desktop PC.  NX Client starts a new KDE session, so here is what I am wondering.  WIth my new KDE sesstion started, is there a way to bring the running applications from Desktop:0 into this new one that NX Client started?17:38
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heinkel_111!envy17:39
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »17:39
FroggyTheGreatAi yi ti.17:39
FroggyTheGreatyi, rather.17:39
darrylanyone know?17:39
nosrednaekimdarryl: I don't think so.17:39
nosrednaekimdarryl: without restarting them.17:40
darrylI though there would be a way to switch them since they are running under the same user account?17:40
WaltzingAlongdarryl: you could use x11vnc to vnc to a running x session17:40
FroggyTheGreatAnyone had a problem with a corrupted 7.10 livecd install disk?17:40
heinkel_111does the 8600 GT nvidia cards work with the standard supplied drivers ?17:40
FroggyTheGreatI've got one, and I'm trying to figure out if it's the iso or the cd.17:40
darrylWaltzingAlong: I did that but its SOOOOO super slow, NX Client is fast17:40
WaltzingAlongdarryl: nxclient to nxserver or nxclient to a vnc server?17:41
heinkel_111i reaad some place that 8600 needed newer drivers than those supplied by ubuntu?17:41
darrylnxclient to vnc17:41
MinatakuHm17:41
nosrednaekimheinkel_111: I believe it works with nvidia-glx-new17:41
seezerheinkel_111: restricted-manager should handle that for you17:41
heinkel_111thanks, i will try it17:42
seezerheinkel_111: otherwise install nvidia-glx-new manually17:42
darrylWaltzingAlong: blah, i mean VNC Viewer to X11vnc is slow17:42
darrylWaltzingAlong: so I use nxclient to nxserver and its fast17:42
Minatakutest17:42
FroggyTheGreatIs it possible to do a net-install of Kubuntu if you only have the regular livecd?17:42
MinatakuNope :P17:42
darrylWaltzingAlong: but I want to be able to access the running applicatons on the Desktop 017:42
heinkel_111seezer: is that sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new (i already have a customized xorg.conf files which i reapply manually)17:43
WaltzingAlongdarryl: ok so nxclient to nxserver then in that connections launch x11vnc to grab the :0 then vncviewer from inside the nxclient's connection17:43
coxanyone know how i bridge my wifi connection the ethernet card to share the internet connection17:43
nosrednaekim!iptables17:44
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).17:44
darrylWaltzingAlong: heh - thats one heck of a process, let me try it - you think it will be fast?17:44
nosrednaekim!bridging17:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bridging - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:44
WaltzingAlongdarryl: has been for me17:44
seezerheinkel_111: for example yes. you could also try the gui "adept manager"17:44
nosrednaekimcox: all I know is that it is possible:D17:44
coxnosrednaekim: haha cheers17:45
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heinkel_111seezer, thanks, but no thanks, i enjoy learning stuff about apt :-)17:45
llutzcox: all you need is to activate ip-forwarding at your internet-connected device17:45
heinkel_111so i may try it manually17:45
coxllutz: would that be under sys/admin/network?17:46
* genii sips a coffee17:46
llutzcox: i don't know, but that are  just 2 lines in a terminal17:46
BluesKajhmmm both krecoed and audacity crash and fail to record ...gutsy isn't ready good audio recording17:46
coxllutz: ok cheers, i shall do some googling17:47
heinkel_111BluesKaj: have kubuntu ever sone a decent job with sound recording?17:47
heinkel_111done a decent job17:48
BluesKajheinkel_111, I used audacity in edgy with some of my vinyl stuff that then successfully put on cd , so it did work well in earlier releases17:49
heinkel_111good to hear, i always had problems but I have just bought some more recording equipment to fumble around with17:50
BluesKajaudacity is really buggy in gutsy Im afraidd17:50
heinkel_111BluesKaj: tried manually recompiling an older version of audacity?å17:50
BluesKajheinkel_111, I'm using the audio feed from a sat receiver which has some decent audio only channels17:51
heinkel_111BluesKaj: i sometimes find that kubuntu is too far in front on versions17:51
BluesKajare you heinkel_111 , pls let me know how it works out17:51
darrylWaltzingAlong: Ok i have done that - but its still really really slow17:52
heinkel_111BluesKaj: i haven't tried it yet,  but if the new version is unstable, the older one may be preferable, although this may also be a problem with hardware support on your machine I guess17:53
ronacinHi, who connect to Brazil channel??17:53
heinkel_111remember ubuntu gets it's stuff from the unstable part of the debian tree....17:53
heinkel_111!Brazil17:54
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.17:54
BluesKajheinkel_111, I wonder if the edgy version will work on 64bit ...previously i was running the 32bit versions of kubuntu :http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=audacity17:54
ronacinvaleu!!! tks!!17:54
ronacin#ubuntu-br17:55
BluesKajheinkel_111, yeah, my pc isn't exactly hiend audio wise ..realtek :)17:55
heinkel_111BluesKaj i don't think the binary package will work out of the box, i think you must compile17:55
heinkel_111i also have a realtek + a cheap audigy card, but on edgy (with an older version of same motherboard) nothing worked as far as sound recording, i switched to (insert name of alternative OS here) for that after much trouble17:57
Daisuke_Idoog course17:57
Daisuke_Idonow sound works fine17:57
WaltzingAlongdarryl: you could also ssh into the machine, launch tightvncserver, then vnc into that later, leaving it running (like nxserver can leave a session for later)17:57
Daisuke_Idoit was wine, i am an idiot, and bazhang, sorry for wasting your time :P17:57
semistud2354hey guys...i need some linux magic.....i have a websight here that i cannot use unless i have internet explorer 5....is there ANY way i can trick this websight into thinking that firefox is internet explorer....im using gutsy 6417:57
bazhangDaisuke_Ido: no waste here--you're not happy-we're not happy :}17:58
seezerheinkel_111: but the audigy drivers aren't that bad on linux. haven't had any recording issues since.. years..17:58
heinkel_111here is a question: when i now run sudo apt-get somepackage, the output always comes with "17:58
heinkel_111Processing triggers for libc6 ...17:58
heinkel_111ldconfig deferred processing now taking place17:58
heinkel_111at the end17:58
heinkel_111i cannot remember that from previous versions. what does it mean?17:59
seezerheinkel_111: that's a _good_ feature ;)17:59
seezerinstead of running ldconfig after each package, packages trigger a single ldconfig run at the end of apt/aptitude etc.17:59
heinkel_111seezer: I know, (concerning the audigy drivers), i assumed they were not the problem17:59
heinkel_111seezer: in other words, it just report that it is doing the final set up?18:00
seezerso if you run apt-get upgrade or something you save 2*10²³ ldconfig runs which equals time which equals money ;)18:00
DRtuxthepenguinhow can i use kde418:00
heinkel_111seezer: remember that it also relates to space, as there is no real distinction between time and space18:01
heinkel_111...18:01
seezer:)18:01
WaltzingAlongDRtuxthepenguin: follow the instructions at kubuntu.org for installing kde4beta318:01
DRtuxthepenguinis there a way for kde beta 418:01
WaltzingAlong!info audacity18:01
ubotuaudacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.3-1build1 (gutsy), package size 2321 kB, installed size 6832 kB18:01
WaltzingAlongDRtuxthepenguin: the packages for kubuntu are not available so you could build it from svn then you have something even more recent than beta418:02
DRtuxthepenguin!svn18:02
ubotusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/18:02
DRtuxthepenguinwill compiling take forever18:02
hdevalenceyeah18:02
WaltzingAlongless than forever18:02
* heinkel_111 is out for an X restart18:02
hdevalencebut otoh, the newer versions are probably more stable18:03
DRtuxthepenguinhow long usually18:03
seezerheinkel_111: yeah. it's somehow "final setup". ld links libraries to executables and uses a cache for that. so before the "trigger" thingy, ldconfig rebuilt the linker cache for every single installed package reporting "i bring new libs!"18:03
seezersomething like this..18:03
WaltzingAlongcouple hours? depends on your system of course. DRtuxthepenguin; and no need  to recompile each day18:03
hdevalenceDRtuxthepenguin: it depends on your hardware18:03
hdevalencein addition to the time it takes to actually compile, you also have to download18:04
DRtuxthepenguin933Mhz18:04
hdevalenceprobably several (>6?) hours, i don't relly know18:05
zero_hi18:05
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DRtuxthepenguini will just wait till kubuntu people make kde4 beta 4 or when kde4 is out18:05
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DRtuxthepenguin!hardy18:06
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu18:06
DRtuxthepenguin!kde418:07
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php18:07
zero_hi18:07
DRtuxthepenguinhi18:07
zero_your can help my18:07
CPrgmSwR2ubotu: how about KDE 4 RC1?18:07
geniiIs there a svn or cvs of Hardy yet?18:07
zero_help in my computer (kubuntu)18:08
Tm_Tgenii: err what?18:08
CPrgmSwR2ubotu: delete yourself18:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about delete yourself - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:08
darrylWaltzingAlong: Yea, I just find VNC as a whole is extreemly slow over my LAN, only the NX Client / Server seems to be fast18:08
DRtuxthepenguingenii: hardy alpha1 is not even out yet18:08
Tm_TCPrgmSwR2: don't play with bot18:08
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geniiDRtuxthepenguin: Ok thx18:08
Tm_Tgenii: repositories are open18:08
DRtuxthepenguingenii:read this18:09
DRtuxthepenguingenii:18:09
hdevalenceisn't beta4 already out?18:09
DRtuxthepenguingenii:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule18:09
WaltzingAlongdarryl: even on your lan. interesting and yes nxclient/nxserver seems fast too18:09
jpatrickhdevalence: topic18:09
geniitm_t: I usually d/l iso files as they come out for my own archiving etc18:09
hdevalenceoh i c18:09
zero_aaaau  im in russia please help my in my computer (cubuntu). yur can help my18:09
darrylWaltzingAlong: yep, no matter what i do with VNC it crawls along, only NX client is extreemly fast and nice refresh speeds18:09
pag!ru | zero_18:09
ubotuzero_: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke18:09
DRtuxthepenguinpag: how do you make the verticle line18:10
Tm_Tgenii: so that's "no" then18:10
geniiSo Dec 20th is soonest, looks like then :)18:10
zero_join ru people = zero18:10
pagDRtuxthepenguin, alt gr + the button left from Z on Finnish layout ;)18:11
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pagDRtuxthepenguin, I have no ide about other layouts, sorry :)18:11
heinkel_111that was a bummer, when i installed the nvidia driver it killed my audio :(18:12
geniiWell, time to go to the computer store :) Laters18:12
heinkel_111probably by diverting the audo to the realtek sound insteaad of the audigy18:13
DRtuxthepenguinok thanks18:16
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semistud2354hey guys...i need some linux magic.....i have a websight here that i cannot use unless i have internet explorer 5....is there ANY way i can trick this websight into thinking that firefox is internet explorer....im using gutsy 6418:17
Chousuke... website, you mean?18:18
semistud2354its like this websight that i have a class on18:18
jpatricksemistud2354: Tools -> Change Browers ID...18:18
jpatrick(for Konqueror)18:19
Chousukeanyway, yes, there is a way; there's a Firefox extension that you can change the user agent string with and fool the site.18:19
nshsemistuf2354 (lord help us) - http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2004/04/24/changinguseragent.html18:19
heinkel_111semistud2354: if you use konqueror, you can set it up to identify as any other browser, including IE, but that does not autmoatically mean that konqueror will work well with the website. The website may be coded poorly (non standard-compliant) so that it has a lot of errors and standards that only works with IE and fails other browsers18:19
heinkel_111.. fatally18:19
Daisuke_Idoif it uses activex, you're pretty much SOL18:19
nshor lucky18:20
semistud2354i see18:20
Chousukechanging the user agent string throught about:config isn't probably the best solution :/18:20
semistud2354but what if it just redirects me to a flash video18:20
Chousuke-t18:20
semistud2354cuz i mean its just an online class18:20
semistud2354then i "might be able to pull it off?"18:20
Daisuke_Idobah, stoopid wow, stoopid wine18:20
Daisuke_Idosemistud2354: then you're probably okay18:21
semistud2354iight well thanx for your help guys18:21
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ardchoilleHow do I get documents that are opened in kate to appear in Recent Documents (~/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments)?18:23
newsense07!ie4linux18:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ie4linux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:23
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blekoshello, if from the lilo choose smg like "repair" mode then i am entered to the command prompt, that means theat18:28
blekosanybody having physical access to my pc can mess it up [by accident]18:29
DRtuxthepenguinwhats the difference bewteen kdesu and sudo18:29
blekoscan i have a pawwd there?18:30
Tm_T!kdesu > DRtuxthepenguin18:30
DRtuxthepenguinmy brother wants to know is it possible to use nautilus in kde18:32
Tm_Tyes18:32
DRtuxthepenguinok18:33
blekoscould you tell me how i can install the xfce window manager?18:33
ardchoilleDRtuxthepenguin: sudo is for cli apps, kdesudo is for gui apps (kdesudo sets up the environment better)18:33
DRtuxthepenguinis kdesu like gksu18:33
pagDRtuxthepenguin, I guess it's a good idea to launch nautilus with --no-desktop option18:33
ardchoille!info xfce-desktop18:33
ubotuPackage xfce-desktop does not exist in gutsy18:33
ardchoille!info xubuntu-desktop18:33
ubotuxubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.50 (gutsy), package size 13 kB, installed size 40 kB18:33
ardchoilleblekos: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop18:34
Minataku懇意痴話!18:34
blekosis it possible to be only 40k?18:34
Tm_Tblekos: + dependencies18:35
blekoswill xiubuntu-desktop install the dependecies as well?18:35
Tm_Tshould18:36
heinkel_111is this website down: http://www.alsa-project.org ?18:36
Goodgamehi, qhat's the best between kde and gnome for the new ubuntu version?18:36
ardchoilleblekos: That's one of the benefits of using a package manager18:36
ardchoilleGoodgame: "best" is relative. The "best" thing you can do is try them both and see which works "best" for you18:37
GoodgameI'd like to know if Kate and Amarok work perfectly on GNOME because I'm really attached to them18:38
Tm_TGoodgame: should18:38
Tm_TGoodgame: you can try18:38
ardchoilleGoodgame: kde apps should run well in gnome, and vica-versa18:38
heinkel_111can you see the alsa website? http://www.alsa-project.org18:39
ardchoilleheinkel_111: Timed out18:39
Goodgamethx18:39
heinkel_111thanks ardchoille18:40
ardchoilleyw18:40
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Tm_THeinkel|afk: noooo18:43
zerojioin #russian18:51
Mr_Sonomaanyone know the package for the lacie light scribe labeler software, cant seem to hit the right synaptic search.......18:54
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Tm_T!away > heinkel_11119:00
azizdoes somebody know what I can do, so that I can press more keys simultaneously than only 2 to 3. for example: i can press arrow up, arrow right and any letter key, but I can't press arrow up, arrow left and a third key at the same time. I have a noteboook... is it a hardware limitation?19:01
Tm_Taziz: prolly yes19:04
Tm_Theinkel_111: got msg from ubotu?19:05
heinkel_111yes, but that is not priority at the moment, will fix later19:05
Tm_Troger19:05
heinkel_111by the way, i recommend everyone to turn off nick change reporting by default (hi konversation developers!)19:06
heinkel_111i didn't even think of it as a problem cause i don't show nick change and connects/disconnects19:06
Tm_Tagreed19:07
Tm_Theinkel_111: I'm not really blaming you about anything, just like to notify this issue19:08
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ignoramusWhy is there no icon for executive files?  How do i fix this?  Screenshot---> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=8g3qm8l&s=119:12
snego_i just uninstalled zlibc ...19:12
jpatricksnego_: well done19:12
snego_and with it, almost everything else :]19:12
ignoramus*i mean "executable files"19:13
jpatrickignoramus: that icon theme does not have an image for it?19:13
ignoramusjpatrick: no, it definitely did... i installed the theme about a week ago, and just today i noticed there's no icon19:14
snego_the question is... adept claimed zlibc isnt installed, i installed it and then decided to dump it. result -> half a distro gone :/19:14
ignoramusjpatrick: should i try a default icon set?19:14
jpatrickignoramus: or any other19:14
_abbenormalhello all19:15
_abbenormalcan i get a daily iso and where can it be found19:16
ignoramusjpatrick: just tried Crystal SVG (came as default) - no dice :(19:16
jpatrickignoramus: odd, no idea then :(19:16
_abbenormali just d/l from main site and iso has bad mds checksum wont burn19:16
ignoramus_abbenormal: are you a bNer?  If not, disregard :)19:17
Tm_Tignoramus: erm?19:19
Tm_Tsnego_: always check changes before applying them19:20
ignoramusTm_T: Fixed it!19:20
Tm_Tignoramus: 2117 < ignoramus> _abbenormal: are you a bNer?  If not, disregard :)19:20
ignoramusTm_T: oh, i just recognized the name from an online forum- could be anyone, though:)19:21
Tm_Tok19:21
snego_Tm_T: How? The thing is I use Adept not Add/Remove Programs. Because the latter is veryyyyy slow for me. I have no idea why.19:21
blekoshi i've just installed xubuntu [have kubuntu]19:21
_abbenormaltypical linux guys doesnt matter heads up if there is a problem with the iso you all know now thanks19:21
Tm_Tsnego_: both are adept19:22
snego_yes, i noticed. but add/remove is horribly slow19:22
blekosis there any benchmark so i can compare the speed of the two managers?19:22
snego_and it has check changes :>19:22
Tm_Tsnego_: both should have19:22
Tm_Tblekos: what managers?19:22
DreskenHad to re-install Kubuntu, when I try to mount an external NTFS HDD I get an error saying "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"19:22
DreskenAny idea how to fix this?19:23
Tm_TDresken: have you updated it?19:23
DreskenNot yet lol :x19:23
Mr_Sonoma!light scribe19:23
Tm_TDresken: exactly19:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about light scribe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:23
blekoswindow managers xfce & kde19:23
* Dresken stabs self19:23
Tm_Tblekos: no, there's no benchmark for that purpose, nor there would be much point in that19:24
blekosy not?19:24
snego_Tm_T: i m sorry, but for some reason i cant find it... I have apply changes and safe update19:24
snego_Tm_T: i dont see check changes option19:24
blekosis it so unlikely that someoney will want to check what's best for its computer?19:24
Tm_Tsnego_: interesting, should be, though I don't use those apps19:25
blekosi can see the xfce is faster, but thre is allways the well know user illusion19:25
Tm_Tblekos: no, problem is, there's no easy way to benchmark19:25
blekoshmm19:25
snego_Tm_T: what do you use for package management then?19:25
Tm_Tblekos: for example, KDE has high variety in configurations, so you can make huge difference in speed etc etc19:26
blekosmaybe there is a benchmark for checking my pc speed etc, so if i do that for each manager then i could see if there is any difference19:26
Tm_Tsnego_: apt-get19:26
Tm_Tblekos: umm, with default settings?19:26
snego_Tm_T: fair enough :> but what happens if u dont know the exact name of the package you need? : )19:26
Tm_Tsnego_: I have search19:26
blekosgood question19:27
Mr_Sonomaif i remember right under fiesty there was a package for the lacie lightscribe labeler but i cant seem to find it in the gutsy repos. am i missing a repository, maybe a 3rd party repo or something, i cant remember loading any other 3rd party repos for this.19:27
Tm_Tblekos: I prolly can make my KDE faster than your XFCE19:27
Tm_Tjust matter of settings19:27
blekoshow is that?19:27
Tm_TKDE isn't "fast and light" by default, but there's lots of things you can drop or turn off19:28
blekoslike19:28
snego_Tm_T: How do you search repositories using apt-get?19:28
snego_or do you mean Google? : >19:28
blekosto be honest i dont have any speed problem19:28
Tm_Tsnego_: apt-cache search foofoo19:28
blendtux! compiz19:28
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion19:28
snego_Tm_T: oh, thanks19:28
Tm_Tblekos: me neither, and I do have heavy KDE19:29
blekosthe thing is that i have laptop and I'm thinking if i'm on a trip maybe xfce is less battery consuming19:29
Tm_Tblekos: you might like to see "kpersonalizer"19:29
Mr_Sonomawhy not fluxbox for simplicity and lightweight??19:29
Tm_TMr_Sonoma: it's not DE19:30
Tm_Tnor really light19:30
Search4Lanceranyone know how to remove or drastically reduce the size of the sidebar in amarok?19:30
Tm_TSearch4Lancer: click sidebartab19:30
benpicco_Hi, I just got 3 kernel panics right after dialing into the internet - how may i find out what´s wrong?19:31
blekosunfortunately the "laptop module" is unstable and "dangerous"19:31
blekoswhat is kpersonilizer19:31
snego_Tm_T: kubuntu installation finished! <3 livecd. thanks for your help19:32
Tm_Tblekos: fast tool to change KDE settings, bit warning though, it might change stuff you don't inted to first, but don't worry systemsettings is there19:32
blekosso i just install kpersonilizer?19:32
benpicco_any ideas which logfile i should look for?19:33
Tm_Tblekos: you should have it already I believe19:33
Tm_Tbenpicco_: something kernel related that is, dunno more19:33
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ezra_kubuntu won't recognize my external harddrive, how do I fix that?19:41
benpicco_is it an usb drive?19:41
nosrednaekimezra_: is it NTFS?19:42
benpicco_what is dmesg telling you?19:42
ezra_dmesg?19:42
ezra_sorry I just installed linux19:42
Tm_Tblekos: wup?19:42
benpicco_ezra_: type it in the terminal19:43
FroggyTheGreatDoes this work for Gutsy?  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-drive.html19:43
benpicco_ezra_: paste dmesg | tail19:43
benpicco_!paste19:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:43
ezra_!compiz19:44
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion19:44
FroggyTheGreat!grub19:44
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto19:44
ezra_!dmesg19:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:44
benpicco_ezra_: try man dmesg ;)19:45
ezra_it sees it...19:45
GimletN'Abend!19:46
benpicco_moin Gimlet19:46
benpicco_ezra_: what exactly does it tell you?19:46
newsense07im running kubuntu gutsy and have always seen my windows drive in storage media but all of a sudden its not showing up19:46
FroggyTheGreatTo install Grub, can I just copy the /boot dir off the livecd and then modify the menu.lst accordingly?19:47
muskogeerabbitAnyone here running Kontact and having problems. Mine takes a loooong time to start up, periodically goes into a "won't do anything mode" and sometimes just crashes. Is this typical?19:47
nosrednaekimmuskogeerabbit: what do you use kontact for?19:47
benpicco_FroggyTheGreat: grub needs to be wrirtten in the mbr19:47
nosrednaekimnewsense07: try the disks and filesystems manager19:47
ezra_it says device scan complete among other stuff19:47
benpicco_ezra_: just copy the other stuff in the pastebin ;)19:48
newsense07nosrednaekim: will give it a try19:48
muskogeerabbitI use it as the summary page for kmail etc.19:48
FroggyTheGreatUsing the livecd, is there an easy way to install grub then?19:48
FroggyTheGreatMy livecd is corrupted and I'm trying a different way of doing this.19:48
benpicco_FroggyTheGreat: you can do it with grub-install19:49
nosrednaekimnewsense07: system settings-> advanced-> disks and filesystems19:49
ezra_where is the paste bin?19:49
benpicco_!paste19:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:49
nosrednaekimmuskogeerabbit: if you just use it for kmail, you can run kmail standalone19:49
ezra_!paste19:49
ezra_ok19:49
ezra_!paste19:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:50
ezra_usb 5-6: USB disconnect, address 419:50
ezra_[  420.796000] usb 5-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 519:50
ezra_[  420.928000] usb 5-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice19:50
ezra_[  420.928000] scsi4 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices19:50
ezra_[  420.928000] usb-storage: device found at 519:50
ezra_[  420.928000] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning19:50
ezra_[  425.928000] usb-storage: device scan complete19:50
ezra_[  425.928000] scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access     WD       1600BEVExternal  1.02 PQ: 0 ANSI: 019:50
newsense07nosrednaekim: cool thanks looks like that partition was disabled for some reason im gonna try reenabling it19:50
Tm_Tezra_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:50
Tm_Tezra_: read that, twice19:51
muskogeerabbitIf I didn't want the summary page of Mail, Contacts, ToDo list, Journal, and notes, I would have stayed with Evolution.19:51
benpicco_ezra_: there is nothing beneath? (pastebin is ment to be used to copy text to it)19:52
ezra_can i start over?19:52
ezra_there is so much stuff i don't know what to paste19:53
benpicco_ezra_: then yust paste everything ;)19:53
benpicco_BUT NOT HERE!19:53
ezra_ok19:53
nosrednaekimmuskogeerabbit: ah well, evolution has that.... right?19:53
ezra_ok i posted it19:54
benpicco_then you need to tell us the url19:54
ezra_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44934/19:54
muskogeerabbitNo, Evolution does not have a summary page.19:55
BenjaminDi have added a smbfs mount to my fstab, and mount -a to rc.local so my network drive mounts on startup. it mounts to /media/server..   however no icon shows on the desktop.. how can i make this happen?19:55
nosrednaekimmuskogeerabbit: ah.... well kontact ALWAYS freezes?19:56
nosrednaekimstart it from a konsole and see what it says.19:56
Tm_Tmuskogeerabbit: install kdepim-dbg first19:56
Tm_Tthen run from konsole19:56
benpicco_ezra_: can you already acces it at /media/sdc19:56
benpicco_?19:57
ezra_whats that?19:57
benpicco_ezra_: a folder19:57
nosrednaekimBenjaminD: configure desktop-> icons19:58
ezra_no19:58
BenjaminDyes19:58
benpicco_ezra_: if you use konqueror or dolphin and navigate to /media, is the external drive already there?19:58
muskogeerabbitI assume that is a debug package?19:58
nosrednaekimdid you mark all desktop icons enabled?19:58
BenjaminDa link for it pops up when i insert a cd (along with the cd icon), but that link (remote share) doesnt allow me to view the contents(permissions denied)19:58
ezra_konqueror19:58
BenjaminDhowever i can cmd prompt to the folder19:59
benpicco_ezra_: just choose what you like most19:59
benpicco_ezra_: anyway, is there some kind of sdc in /media?19:59
nosrednaekimBenjaminD: you need to mount it with users permissions.19:59
nosrednaekim!mount19:59
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter19:59
ezra_i see cdrom and sda120:00
Tm_Tmuskogeerabbit: yes20:00
benpicco_ezra_: ok, is there already a filesystem on the drive?20:00
ezra_on sda1?20:00
Tm_Tyes20:00
benpicco_ezra_: no, on the external drive20:01
ezra_i don't even see the external drive20:01
benpicco_ezra_: no, i mean if you used it before or just bought it20:01
ezra_o, i've used it before20:02
ezra_i store pics and stuff on it20:02
benpicco_ezra_: ok, than try the following:20:02
benpicco_craete a new directory in /media using sudo mkdir /media/sdc20:02
benpicco_*craete20:02
benpicco_*create20:02
blekoshow do i run kpersonilizer20:03
benpicco_ezra_: then mount it using sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc20:03
nosrednaekimblekos: "kpersonalizer"20:03
ezra_how do i even create one?20:03
benpicco_ezra_: a directory?20:04
Tm_Tbenpicco_: hit alt+f220:04
ezra_ya20:04
blekosi get command not found20:04
Tm_Tblekos: I mean20:04
Tm_Tblekos: then install it?20:04
benpicco_ezra_: by mkdir20:04
nosrednaekimblekos: you installed it?20:04
blekoslol20:04
blekosdoing it right now :)20:04
benpicco_ezra_: you need to do this as root becaurse only root can create stuff in /media20:04
Tm_Tyay20:04
ezra_ok20:05
benpicco_ezra_: this you do by sudo (do something as superuser= root)20:05
el_tacohow can I setup apt to use a socks proxy20:05
ezra_so i type "sudo then what? i'm pretty lost20:06
benpicco_ezra_: sudo mkdir /media/sdc to create a dir in /media called sdc20:06
ardchoilleezra_: What are you trying to do? What command?20:06
ardchoilleAh, ok20:07
benpicco_ezra_: but you can call it however you want20:07
ezra_ok20:07
ardchoilleezra_: that directory "/media/sdc" will be your mount point.. you'll use that to mount the device20:08
ezra_ok20:08
benpicco_ezra_: to mount the first partition on sdc (which is represented by /dev/sdc1) you can type sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc now20:09
ezra_every time i type stuff in the command slot and push run it just goes away20:10
ardchoilleezra_: You're typing all of this into a terminal right?20:10
ezra_no20:11
ardchoilleYou should be20:11
ezra_i'll do that then20:11
benpicco_ezra_: but you can't read the messages of the commads when you're not using a terminal20:11
ezra_ok, i tried sudo mkdir /media/sdc and it won't let me type my password20:12
benpicco_ezra_: where have you typed it?20:12
ezra_in the terminal, it says "password for ezra:" and it wont let me type20:13
ardchoilleezra_: it accepts the password, it just doesn't print it out. That's a safety feature to defaet someone who may be looking over your shoulder20:13
ardchoilleThe devs should replace that with asterisks so people aren't confused.20:13
benpicco_ardchoille: but then someone could get out the length of the password ;)20:14
Tm_Tyup20:14
ardchoillebenpicco_: not if you do 2 asterisks on every other letter20:14
Tm_Tardchoille: that just confuse more I afraid :-P20:15
ardchoillebenpicco_: my password is 16 chars, good luck figuring that out :)20:15
ardchoilleTm_T: At least a new user would think it's actually working20:15
ezra_ok i think i created it20:16
Tm_Tardchoille: randomly color changing cursor!20:16
* Tm_T hides20:16
ardchoillehehe20:16
benpicco_ezra_: you mean you´ve mounted it?20:16
benpicco_Tm_T: i want a 3d shell, like in hackers ^^20:16
ardchoilleezra_: you can test that with:  ls /media/sdc20:16
ezra_no, what was the command again o mount it?20:16
Tm_Tbenpicco_: then code one20:16
* Tm_T goes ->20:16
benpicco_Tm_T: using aalib?20:17
benpicco_ezra_: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc20:17
ezra_it says sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc20:17
ezra_sorry20:18
ezra_you must specify the filesystem type20:18
ardchoilleezra_: Do you know the file system?20:18
benpicco_ezra_: oh, what happens when you type to /dev/sdc and then press tab?20:18
ardchoilleIs this a Windows drive/device? vfat? ntfs?20:18
benpicco_ezra_: what is ls /dev/sdc* telling you?20:19
ezra_ls /dev/sdc*20:19
ezra_nothin20:20
ezra_its a WD passport20:20
pulaskihello, I'm want to set up the java6 SDK/eclipse on my new kubuntu gutsy.  I found a comprehensive ubuntu forum article on the process for edgy that uses the Sun third party sdk-6u3-i386.bin.  Adept shows the only java package installed is java-common.  Can anyone suggest a comprehensive howto or other forum for gutsy or some other resource that doesn't use third party software but limits the java environment to kubuntu packages?20:20
benpicco_erm, you typed it in the terminal, right?20:20
ezra_typed what command?20:21
ardchoillebenpicco_: It wasn't mounted because he didn't specify the file system20:21
benpicco_ardchoille: normaly mount should find it out on it´s own20:21
ardchoillebenpicco_: Doesn't always work that way20:21
BenjaminDok. Have added smbfs mount to my fstab. Mounts to /media/server. Icon shows up on desktop but does not show the contents of my servers folder. However going directly to /media/server does...20:22
BenjaminDWhen i tried to use SYSTEM SETTINGS-ADVANCED-Disk Management. When i selected Windows Network, and press SCAN, it crashes every time20:22
BenjaminDim sure its a bug20:22
ezra_i think i'm gonna give up, i appreciate your help though20:23
BenjaminDso i can access smb mount point going to /media/server. but i can not access when i go to STORAGE MEDIA.20:24
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* genii sips a coffee20:28
ardchoillehi genii20:31
BenjaminDcan someone tell me why i can access my smb share via /media/server, but not when i click on the Desktop icon, or go through dolphin-Storage Media. (permission errors).. I can not setup the share via KDE Advanced Disk mounting. (crashes when press SCAN on windows file sharing)20:31
geniiardchoille: Heya :)20:32
batusaihola mundo20:32
jussi01does anyone know how to make konversation start minimised(in systray)?20:32
jussi01BenjaminD: o update, samba has issues20:32
jussi01!sambabug20:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sambabug - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:33
BenjaminDsudo apt-get update?20:33
jussi01BenjaminD: yeah, or through adept20:33
ardchoilleAnyone looking for a themable clock for kicker (to perhaps replace the default clock applet), check out styleclock. It's in the repos.20:33
acelerjussi01: try #kde :)20:33
jussi01aceler: hahahahahah20:33
acelerOK. try bugs.kde.org20:34
geniiThere is a way to start apps minimised but offhand I dunno the way.20:34
acelergenii: of course you can setup it with kwin20:35
BenjaminDcan anyone else try DISK & FILESYSTEMS,  ADMIN MODE, NEW, TYPE = Windows File Sharing, THEN SCAN ?20:36
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jmichaelxdoes anyone know what the OOo channel is called?20:45
GrahamAWould anybody know why Adept Manager is wanting me to do a version upgrade on Gutsy?20:46
LjLthere was a little bug about that, but i thought it'd have been fixed by now20:46
GrahamAI'll update.20:47
jmichaelxGrahamA: some upgrades require that, it's no big deal, just do it20:47
GrahamANo it's just I've got like... 3 problems off the top of my head.20:47
GimletOk, linux gurus, I've the following problem, perhaps you've a clue: I upgraded to kubuntu 7.10 and now none of my hds will mount except the partition the os is on.20:47
Gimlet I tried to look up "Disk & Filesystem" in the system settings, but it tells me, that this module cannot be found.20:47
GrahamAGimlet: I'm assuming you've tried mount on the command line?20:49
jmichaelxGimlet: i had that issue on the PC i am using right now. i wound of doing a fresh install because of that problem. i had not done a frsh install on this machine since breezy20:49
markux#sexo20:49
GimletGrahamA: I did20:49
markuxHELLO PEOPLE20:49
BenjaminDDisk & Filesystem and then try to add a Windows File Share through that. I think its  abug20:49
Gimletjmichaelx: :-(20:49
jmichaelxGimlet: had you used automatix?20:50
GrahamAGimlet: Do you have any other OSes on the PC?20:50
GimletGrahamA: Yes, Win2k20:50
GrahamAThat works?20:50
GrahamAThey haven't been renamed by accident have they?20:51
Gimletjmichaelx: I used the build-in version updater of kubuntu20:51
GrahamAOnce, I think Feisty, though my harddrives were sda instead of hda20:51
markuxalguien espñol20:51
markux?20:51
markux¿?20:51
GimletThey're all "sdx", but fstab uses the UUID20:52
BenjaminDIf i can access my mounted server through /media/server, how come i can not access through Dolpihin - Storage Media ?  (permission error)20:53
GrahamAGimlet: You can mount them with /dev/sdx20:53
GrahamAGimlet: What it might be, to get the module for control center, have you got kubuntu-desktop installed?20:54
GrahamABrb fire20:54
GimletGrahamA: kubuntu-desktop is installed20:56
GrahamAHaven't the foggiest20:56
GrahamAHave you trried fdisk?20:56
GimletGrahamA: Yes20:57
GrahamAI don't think I can help you much, sorry.20:57
GimletGrahamA: Thank you for trying20:57
nosrednaekimGimlet: whats the problem?20:57
Gimletnosrednaekim: After upgrading to kubuntu 7.10, I cannot mount my disks20:58
nosrednaekimGimlet: any of them? what format type..20:59
Gimletnosrednaekim: Most of them FAT3220:59
nosrednaekimGimlet: can you mount them from the command line?21:00
Gimletnosrednaekim: Nope, it says, they're already mounted21:00
nosrednaekimGimlet: do a "mount"21:00
Gimletnosrednaekim: I did21:00
nosrednaekimand see where it says they are mounted21:00
Gimletnosrednaekim: But they aren't mounted21:01
nosrednaekimGimlet: odd....21:01
GrahamAProblem number 2: Kopete crashes when I try to sign into my MSN account...21:01
nosrednaekimGrahamA: run all system updates21:02
ardchoilleGrahamA: That kopete bug was fixed21:02
GrahamASeems to answer everything... I hope...21:02
GrahamAAh ha! Great success!21:03
nosrednaekimGimlet: take a look in systemsettings->advanced->disks and partitions.21:03
Gimletnosrednaekim: Odd indeed; when I try to get in the Disk & Filesystems module in the system settings, it says, that the module cannot be found!21:03
nosrednaekimGrahamA: that was a problem with the kde libs in the liveCD21:03
GrahamAWe're doing good! 2 problems fixed.21:04
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mrtimboI installed kernel 2.6.23.1 how to i uninstall it?21:05
nosrednaekimGimlet: ouch.... did you run all system updates?21:05
ubuzztuso i just in stalled kubuntu and would like to install kdevelop, but i don't see it in add/remove programs21:05
mrtimboso i only have the old one21:05
GrahamAubuzztu: Use Adept Manager, it's in ther21:06
GrahamAthere*21:06
nosrednaekimubuzztu: use adept_manager21:06
ubuzztui don't see it...21:06
GrahamAI think there's a 4th but I can't remember, either way 3rd is, unless the update fixed it too... sound seems to blip... sort of like skipping... sounds like every now and then a small peddble hits the cone... but it seems to just be with Xine and some of my games. Mplayer never had that problem unless it was a problem with everything except mplayer.21:06
Gimletnosrednaekim: I think so. I there a way to repeat the whole updating process?21:07
nosrednaekimGimlet: run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"21:07
mrtimboany ideas?21:07
nosrednaekimmrtimbo: how did you install it?21:08
GrahamAIt's bugged me since I got this motherbaord that according to lspci has a built in "Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)"21:08
debianKubuntu killed windows. How to fix?21:08
nosrednaekimGrahamA: make the sound buffer higher.21:08
nosrednaekimdebian: how did it kill windows.21:08
mrtimboi compiled a new kernel via make xconfig21:08
nosrednaekimmrtimbo: oh... umm you can remove the entry from the /boot/grub.menu.lst21:09
debianwhen windows boots it says unmountabole boot voulme or something21:09
Gimletnosrednaekim: It just says, that everything is up-to-date21:09
mrtimboi didnt compile right or something cause i cant open my mmc cards or webcam with new kernel21:09
nosrednaekimGimlet: run "kdesudo mountconfig"21:10
mrtimboor external hard drives21:10
BenjaminDFIXED my STORAGE MEDIA problem. Changed fstab to cifs instead of smbfs21:11
BenjaminD:)21:11
nosrednaekimBenjaminD: cool21:11
debianHow do I make sure a partition is unomnted?21:11
nosrednaekimrun "mount:21:12
nosrednaekim"mount"21:12
debianfuck its mounted21:12
nosrednaekimdebian: for windows problems, go to #windows21:12
nosrednaekim!ohmy21:12
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.21:12
debianHow to unmount?21:12
nosrednaekim"sudo mount<where it is mounted>"21:12
nosrednaekimooops21:12
Gimletnosrednaekim: It doesn't work, it gives only exceptions and errors back21:13
nosrednaekim"sudo umount <where it is mounted>"21:13
debiandebian is not in the sudoers file21:13
nosrednaekimGimlet: yech21:13
mrtimbohas anyone else compiled a kernel in here before that can give me some pointers21:13
nosrednaekimdebian: log into your original account.21:13
debianIt is it21:13
crimsunmrtimbo: well, what do you need in a newer kernel than what gutsy ships?21:13
bobishhman mount21:13
bobishhreading is good21:13
mrtimbonothing, just wanted a faster system, but now since its not right i just want to unistall what i did21:14
nosrednaekimdebian: then you must have really messed up your system if you aren't in the sudoers file.21:14
mrtimbohttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158 is what i did21:14
debianNo, kinda doesnt have kubuntu but debian with kde. but that is pretty much the same21:14
nosrednaekimGimlet: sounds like you may have a messed up upgrade21:15
nosrednaekimdebian: kinda, but there are some fundamental differences, #debain might be able to help you better21:15
nosrednaekim#debian21:15
GrahamAGimlet: Do you have a Gutsy liveCD?21:15
Gimletnosrednaekim: I think you're right and I really do not like it21:15
GimletGrahamA: No, I haven't21:16
bobishhmathcore is great21:16
GrahamADownload one, see if it can see your hard drives.21:16
GimletGrahamA: This could be a problem, since I have no cd drive21:17
nosrednaekimGrahamA: do you have a usbstick?21:19
nosrednaekimGimlet: ^^21:19
ardchoilleOMG! I just discovered "Presentation moce" (ctrl+shift+p) in kpdf21:19
ardchoilles/moce/mode/21:20
nosrednaekim:D21:20
Gimletnosrednaekim: I've an iPod nano21:20
blendtux!compiz21:21
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion21:21
Gimletnosrednaekim: I can borrow an usb stick, if the iPod doesn't do the trick21:22
nosrednaekimGimlet: lol... err, lets not try that :D21:22
Gimletnosrednaekim: Why not? The iPod runs linux very well :-)21:22
nosrednaekimGimlet: you have linux running on ti?21:23
Gimletnosrednaekim: Yeah, I don't like the original firmware21:23
Gimletnosrednaekim: Got it from ipodlinux.org, doesn't work on every iPod though21:24
nosrednaekimGimlet: haha, well, still thats not getting us anywhere unless you make a partition on it and boot the livecd from that.21:24
Gimletnosrednaekim: Borrowing an usb stick won't be any problem, but I'm not sure, whether my bios will allow booting from an usb stick21:25
Gimletnosrednaekim: But it's worth a try21:26
nosrednaekimGimlet: you can check.21:26
nosrednaekimGimlet: if you have windows on there, you can do a Wubi install as well.21:26
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Gimletnosrednaekim: What's Wubi? I've a windows partition (Win2k)21:27
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NickPresta!wubi | Gimlet21:29
ubotuGimlet: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html21:29
nosrednaekim!wubi21:29
GimletNickPresta, nosrednaekim: Ah, I see, thank you21:30
XerossI need help21:30
nosrednaekimXeross: ask away21:30
Gimletnosrednaekim: I'll try that21:30
nosrednaekimGimlet: needs a good 5 gigs though21:30
Xerossgrub wont work21:30
Xerossit points to correct hdd and partition21:30
ubuzztuanyways i found kevelop , why does it want the cd to install it?21:30
nosrednaekim!grub21:30
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:30
Xerosssais it cant mount21:30
nosrednaekimubuzztu: get rid of the cdrom from the repository list21:31
ubuzztuok21:31
Gimletnosrednaekim: 5 GB shouldn't be the problem. If it doesn't work, I'll be back!21:32
nosrednaekimGimlet: i'll probably not be around.21:33
gubaEHLO всем21:33
ardchoille!ru21:33
ubotuПожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke21:33
Gimletnosrednaekim: Hehe, you can't be around all the time, but I'll probably find some good soul willing to help me.21:33
gubathnx21:34
ardchoilleyw21:34
nosrednaekimGimlet: :D21:34
boblenyHi! I have a question real quick... I created a file called “foo” in my /home/bob/ directory. I then used chmod to remove user privileges. The output of ls -l "/home/bob/foo/”, is this: ---------- 1 root root 5368709120 2007-04-22 17:52 /home/bob/. Now, if I have no privileges to this file, why is it that I can still delete it?21:34
Gimletnosrednaekim: Bye and thanks!21:34
nosrednaekimbobleny: you can delete it as a normal user?21:34
boblenyYeah.21:34
nosrednaekimhmmm21:35
ardchoillebobleny: root can do anything21:35
Dr_willis rm foo21:35
Dr_willisrm: remove write-protected regular empty file `foo'?21:35
ardchoilleDr_willis: look at the owner, I think he created it as root21:35
Dr_willisin my case foo was owned by me.. right. :)21:35
Dr_willisa user shouldent be able to do anything to a file owned by root21:36
gubaare you shure you try to delete it as normal user?21:36
Dr_willisHmm.. I can delete it as a normal user also.21:36
mehmetkubuntu7.10 bed21:36
gubahmm21:36
crimsunDr_willis: well, you should be able to execute it ;)21:36
Xerosswell21:37
Dr_willis-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-11-17 16:36 foo   rm: remove write-protected regular empty file `foo'? y21:37
Dr_willis 21:37
gubaone minute, i want to try )21:37
Xerossstil waitin for answer21:37
nosrednaekim!grub | Xeross21:37
ubotuXeross: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:37
Xerossk21:37
ardchoilleThat's messed up21:37
ardchoillesudo touch testfile  and I can delete it without sudo21:38
boblenyYeah!21:38
boblenyWhy?21:38
ardchoillebobleny: No idea, it's weird21:38
Dr_willisPerhaps because its an empty file?21:38
gubano21:38
Dr_willisand in the users home dir?21:38
nosrednaekimmaybe because you own that directory?21:39
gubait's not a reason21:39
Mr_Sonomabut the file should be owned by root at that point21:39
[ka]killerok im having a big problem here21:39
[ka]killerwell not really the computer is working but im stuck in 640x48021:39
Dr_willis sudo echo FOOOOOOOOOOOO > foo222 , makes a file owned by a user.. Hmm21:39
nosrednaekimbobleny: very interesting problem!21:39
ardchoilleDr_willis: works with "echo "hi" | sudo tee -a testfile" too21:39
[ka]killer;_; everything is to big!21:39
Xerossanswer isnt there21:39
nosrednaekim[ka]killer:" sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"21:40
[ka]killero hell no21:40
[ka]killero hell fing no21:40
[ka]killerlast time i did that21:40
ardchoilleDr_willis: redirection with sudo shouldn't work that way21:40
[ka]killerX died completly21:40
nosrednaekim[ka]killer: erm.... try system settings->monitor?21:40
[ka]killertried that T_T21:40
nosrednaekimXeross: it can't mount the root FS?21:40
boblenyYeah, I don't get it, I can't do anything to the file, except rename it and delete it.21:41
nosrednaekimhave o go all!21:41
ardchoillelol21:41
ardchoillebobleny: Does that work in your home dir as well as the rest of the system? I'm hoping not21:41
ezra_when I use the mount command what's the -t <type> for fat32?21:41
boblenyNope, I can move it too...21:41
Dr_willis-t vfat21:41
ardchoilleezra_: vfat21:41
Xerossit just says21:42
ezra_thanks ardchoille21:42
Xerosserror 1721:42
Xerosscannot mount selected partition21:42
ezra_woa21:43
ezra_ardchoille21:43
NortyI just did a long-overdue update to a 6.06 system. Now the printer doesn't work, and cups won't let me reinstall it. Help, please?21:43
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bkyhow does one start the C/C++ part of eclipse? i installed it but it only is giving me java21:43
ezra_wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc21:43
crimsunbky: did you install eclipse-cdt?21:43
ezra_missing codepage or helper program, or other error21:43
bkyyes21:43
Dr_willisezra_,  wjats the complete command you are using.21:43
ezra_In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try21:43
crimsunbky: so just create a new C/C++ project, and go from there21:43
Dr_willis a hard drive will be like sdc1 not sdc21:44
ezra_sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc /media/sdc21:44
ardchoilleDr_willis: sudo echo FOOOOOOOOOOOO > foo222 <-- that worked because you own your home dir, sudo doesn't handle ">" redirection. performing that command on a system dir would fail because you don't have write perms to the system dir.21:44
Dr_willisardchoille,  oh. :) I knew that... well... sort of.. :)21:44
kaminixHow do I make KWord count words?21:45
Nortyezra, I think you need to put in "sdc1", not just "sdc"21:45
bkyal i figured it out. thanks. :P21:45
Nortywhere "1" is the partition number21:45
ezra_norty: will try21:45
ardchoilleezra_: /dev/sdc is the device, /dev/sdc1 is the file system on that device. You don't mount devices, you mount file systems.. no file system, and the mount will fail.21:45
[ka]killerwell i reconfigured xserv21:45
[ka]killerwish me luck T_T21:46
NickPrestakaminix, it's somewhere in the file menu. Page properties or something similar21:46
ezra_Norty: it worked thank you21:46
Nortyawesome21:46
ardchoilleezra_: Or, more accurately, /dev/sdc1 is the first partition on /dev/sdc21:46
ezra_ardchoille: it's the only partition on /dev/sdc21:47
ardchoilleok21:48
NortyI just updated a 6.06 machine, and now cups doesn't work. How do I fix it?21:48
boblenyardchoille, what does the "d" mean in the permissions? I have d--------21:48
Dr_willisdirectory?21:48
NortyI can't reinstall the printer -- usb isn't shown as an option21:49
ardchoillebobleny: directory21:49
boblenyardchoille, can I remove it as a permission?21:49
ardchoillebobleny: You can't remove the "d", no21:50
ardchoillebobleny: But, if you remove the "x" from a dir, the you won't be able to ls it21:51
Mr_Sonomaanyone know of a package name for a lightscribe labeler program, like lacie? i could have sworn that lacie lightscribe labeler was in fiesty's repo but cant seem to find it with apt-cache or synaptic in gutsy. am i missing a repository entry or am i just forced to use alien to convert the rpms?21:51
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boblenyardchoille, No need to do that is there?21:51
ardchoilleThis is why "chmod -R u-x" is a bad thing21:51
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[ka]killerwell21:51
[ka]killeri told you reconfiguring xserv was going to f it up21:52
[ka]killeri tried reverting to a backed up xorg and it still does not work21:52
boblenyardchoille, what is -R? in that command?21:52
[ka]killerkinit: NO resume image, doing normal boot...21:52
helfrezrecursive21:52
ardchoillebobleny: recursive21:52
[ka]killerwtf is up with my xserv21:53
wols_what videocard, what driver?21:53
ardchoillebobleny: Some folks try that to remove execute  from scripts in a dir and then find they can no longer enter the dir, and that's why21:53
[ka]killernvidia driver, nvidia geforce4 GO 32m21:53
wols_check your Xorg logs21:54
boblenyardchoille, so, chmod -R u-x is different from chmod u-x?21:54
[ka]killerwols_, its been working fine, just after i went over a friends to work on a project, i came home turned it on and it was stuck in 640x48021:54
ardchoillebobleny: yes, because chmod -R performs the action on all directories too21:54
[ka]killerwhere are the logs... its been a while21:54
martijn81what is the best dvd-rip software of the moment for qt?21:54
ardchoille[ka]killer: /var/log21:54
boblenyardchoille, like sub directorys?21:55
ardchoillebobleny: yes21:55
[ka]killerand which one do i want to look at21:55
boblenyardchoille, but only current directorys?21:55
ardchoille[ka]killer: /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?21:55
[ka]killerwhats the comand to read it ... ive only viewed logs when x was working before21:55
* [ka]killer is not used to the text interface21:56
ardchoillebobleny: no, chmod -R performs the action on the directory you are in as well as all subs21:56
ardchoille[ka]killer: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?21:56
ekrengeldoes anyone have 8.42.3 installed on fiesty?21:56
ardchoilleekrengel: And that is the version of what?21:56
[ka]killerwhat am i looking for in here21:57
wols_ardchoille: fglrx. he thinks you're psychic21:57
ekrengelardchoille: the newest ati driver21:57
ardchoillewols_: lol21:57
ekrengelwols_: : )21:57
wols_[ka]killer: all of it. you paste it so people who do understand what they see can look at it21:57
[ka]killerum... how the hell am i suposed to do that21:57
martijn81what is the best dvd-rip software of the moment for Qt? (aka is there even one??)21:58
[ka]killerits not on this computer >_<21:58
ardchoillemartijn81: k9copy has worked great for me21:58
wols_[ka]killer: does the computer in question have internet access?21:58
[ka]killerit should21:58
boblenyardchoille, OK, thank you very much, I cannot delete foo from the /home/ directorry.   I only want to do this for a truecrypt volume anyways. In theroy, since I am not writting to the directory, even though I have no privleges I can still use it....21:58
wols_[ka]killer: then why are you asking?21:58
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martijn81ardchoille: does it do ogm?21:58
[ka]killerum.... i tinnk i foudn the error21:59
ardchoillemartijn81: Never tried, don't know what .ogm is21:59
[ka]killer"fatal server error: no screens found"21:59
martijn81ardchoille: ogg media21:59
wols_[ka]killer: wrong21:59
squirreli was trying to install KVM. I used synaptic package manager. Installation completed but I could not find where it installed and how should I run it. Second, I seem to have lost sound configuration now. How should I get the sound back?21:59
[ka]killerim going to try reconfiguring xserver one more time21:59
wols_squirrel: dpkg -L <package> and you will know22:00
wols_as for the sound: more data needed22:00
squirrelwhat data would you need?22:00
wols_more information22:01
NortyHelp, please. My add printer wizard doesn't show USB as an option.22:01
wols_google "smart questions"22:01
squirrelsound card is there but seems like library got mixed up or something by kvm22:01
Nortysquirrel: check mixer settings. That's what I check first.22:02
jean-philippeHello22:02
[ka]killergot it22:02
[ka]killeri/ll be back22:02
Nortysquirell: look for something that's muted or slider at the bottom.22:02
squirrelI get this error: No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found22:02
Nortysquirrel: uh... got me... try putting GStreamer into your package manager?22:03
squirrelI don't know what kvm installed with it22:03
[ka]killerok22:04
squirrelbut I had allowed it to install dependencies22:04
[ka]killernow i have somethign else thats been bothering me but not really a problem22:04
squirrelhow do put GStreamer?22:04
wols_squirrel:  /var/log/dpkg.log*22:04
[ka]killerwith the system tray it varies from being 2 lines to being 1 line22:04
[ka]killerhow can i set it so there are always 2 lines of icons?22:05
[ka]killerok... if no one knows about that, what about xine?22:06
Nortysquirrel: K- menu -> system -> adept. you follow?22:07
Nortywait, nevermind.22:08
squirrelok let me try. looking at dpkg.log. I don't seem to notice any log closely related to sound22:08
squirrelor I don't know by the name of applications22:08
Nortysquirrel: look for "ALSA"22:09
ubuntubuenas22:09
squirrelI opened adept but it says I con't modify anything without running as root22:09
[ka]killeri guess no one else is having problems with xine?22:09
squirreli see alsa-base installed22:10
squirreland alsa-utils also is installed22:10
Nortysquirrel: that's good. I hope.22:10
squirrelbut there are many other alsa packages not installed22:10
squirrelin console, whey I hit backspace too much. it beeps but can't seem get sound work in desktop22:11
Nortysquirrel: mine works fine with few installed. Do you see GStreamer0.<whateve>-alsa installed?22:11
RoeyHI22:12
[ka]killercan anyone help me with xine?22:12
Roeyhow can I find out which app is blaring that stupid rap song?  I wnat to find its PID.  I tried fuser -v /dev/dsp but it doesn't list anything22:12
squirrelgstreamer0.10-alsa is installed22:12
[ka]killerroey: mute it/22:12
[ka]killer?22:12
Roeymute what22:12
[ka]killertrhe volume22:12
RoeyI want to play something else22:12
[ka]killero22:12
[ka]killeris amarok running?22:12
Roeyyes22:13
Nortysquirrel: how about libasound2 and linux-sound-base (i'm just working down my own list)22:13
[ka]killerhave you checked that?22:13
pacmanI downloaded sysinfo, and was wondering what the "L2 cache" means22:13
Roey[ka]killer:  yes, I just closed it and it keeps going22:13
Roeyer22:13
[ka]killerer22:13
[ka]killertry closing it not minimizing it to tray?22:13
Roey"I closed Amarok just now, yet the music keeps playing"22:13
squirrellibasound2 is installed22:13
Roeyright, I did that.22:13
[ka]killerok22:13
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[ka]killerwhat do you have running?22:13
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squirrellinux-sound-base also is installed22:14
dusanall: I have problem, how to "manually fix the package"?22:14
Aresilekis there a way to disable the scroll thing on the trackpad?22:14
Roey[ka]killer:  konqueror windows.22:14
[ka]killerhum22:14
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RoeyGah, I keep hearing Kanye West's "Stronger" looping around and around, I'm going nuts22:14
[ka]killerim not sure22:15
Roeyok22:15
[ka]killerwhat sites do youhave open?22:15
Roeynothing that play music22:15
Roey*no sites which play music22:15
Roeyer22:15
[ka]killeryou sure?22:15
RoeyFacebook22:15
Roeywould that play stupid music, ya think?22:15
[ka]killeryes22:15
dusanall: I have problem, how to "manually fix the package"?22:15
Nortyproblem: my cups server seems broken after an update. Ideas?22:16
Nortydusan: what package?22:16
Roey[ka]killer:  ok, it was Facebook22:16
Roeywoof :(22:16
[ka]killerNorty, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade?22:16
[ka]killerxD22:16
[ka]killeralways check that first22:16
Roey[ka]killer:  thanks :)22:16
[ka]killer=P normall when i do that i forgot to hit stop before minimizing the amarok window22:17
Norty[ka]killer: sudo aptitude -- did it "manually" on a 6.0622:17
[ka]killeri never do it manually, i break things to often =/22:17
Norty[ka]killer:  it updated cups, and now cups is broke.22:17
[ka]killerhumm22:17
MinceRhay22:18
[ka]killerwhy not upgrade from 6.06?22:18
wols_cause it'S LTS22:18
MinceRi'm upgrading from feisty to gutsy and it keeps failing22:18
Norty[ka]killer: prefer LTS, yeah.22:18
MinceR"subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Segmentation fault), core dumped"22:18
[ka]killero22:18
[ka]killerminceR mine did that22:18
MinceRthe Report bug button pretends it's trying to start konqueror but nothing happens22:18
[ka]killeri just ended up burning a disk22:18
NortyMinceR: if you can, clean install.22:18
MinceRit told me x11-common isn't going to be installed22:18
MinceRwhy, is it really that hard to get dist-upgrade actually work?22:19
wols_MinceR: post inst script for what?22:19
MinceRdunno22:19
MinceRcan't copy from those dialogs22:19
wols_and what else gives it out, cause this is not the causing error22:19
MinceRonly the message i've pasted already22:19
MinceRshow terminal shows an empty panel22:19
dusanaptitude: I wasn't able to locate file for kdevelop package.This might mean you might need to manually fix the package.(due to missing arch)22:20
NortyMinceR: can you get it to install x11-common?22:20
dusanthat is what I get from aptitude22:20
MinceRi'll try after the upgrade finishes or dies22:20
[ka]killerwhy do i get "loading player part 'xinepart' failed all video drivers failed to initialize!"22:21
Nortydusan: do you know how to download the package manually? I could help with that.22:21
MinceRmaybe Show terminal froze something in there because it stopped doing things22:21
dusanNorty: I will try?22:22
dusandpkg?22:22
dusanapt-get?22:22
Nortydusan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/22:22
dusanNorty: Already there.22:22
Nortydusan: find your package, and download it. Then command line to the file, and dpkg -i <file>22:23
dusanok22:24
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[ka]killerdoes anyone have experience with xine22:25
ezra_hey22:26
ezra_I can't run any aptitude programs22:26
ezra_it says there's something running using it22:26
[ka]killerthen there is22:26
ezra_but I checked the precess table and there's nothing with the name apt22:26
Nortyezra_: try to find that program and tell it to quit nicely22:26
ezra_or aptitude22:26
ezra_or anything22:26
ezra_related22:26
[ka]killertry running apt-get it should tell you what is using it22:27
ezra_k, thanks22:27
[ka]killernormally it yells at me to dpkg something when that happens22:27
[ka]killerand back to my problem anyone have experience with xine22:27
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Nortyezra_: I usually give up and do a soft-reboot then. I never took the time to track it down.22:28
ezra_I reebooted22:28
Nortybut that's just me.22:29
ezra_and it still was there22:29
ubuzztuhow do i go about mounting an ftp url?22:29
ezra_I restarted22:29
MinceRcan i restart distribution upgrade if it freezes or will i have to restore my backup?22:29
ardchoilleubuzztu: You can just open konqueror and do:  ftp://url22:29
ezra_it says that dpkg was interrupted and that I must manually run something to correct the problem22:29
ezra_which I am now doing22:29
TimSIs it possible to list all commands that start with the letters vnc22:30
ubuzztui want to mount the directory so i can view the directory in kdevelop22:30
Dr_willisvnc<tab><tab>  :)22:31
TimSAh, thanks!!22:31
Dr_willisThats bash command completion at work22:31
TimS=]22:32
zorglu_suggestion: for the next version, support cut/paste22:32
Dr_willissuggestion: be more clear on the suggestions...22:32
Dr_willis;)22:32
* Dr_willis cuts and pastes all the time22:33
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MinceReven after closing the window i can't kill the remaining processes even with kill -922:34
Nortyzorglu_: for comand line, did you use <shift>+<insert> for <ctrl>+V  ?22:34
TimSKlipper is very irritating, it drops whatever you copy, but you can manualy select it22:34
* Dr_willis cuts/pastes a URL of the Channel Old timers dancing --> http://www.collegehumor.com/video:177891122:34
[ka]killerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44950/22:35
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TimSDr_willis: How do I stop the dolphin error about bookmarks? Apart from by using Konqueror :P22:37
Dr_willisI dont use dolphin. I stuff dolphin into little cans marked 'tuna'22:38
Dr_willis:)22:38
jpatrickDr_willis: that's not very nice...22:38
Dr_willisIve yet to see any thing that dolphin does for me that i cant do with Konqueror better/faster/stronger/quicker. :)22:38
nareshovIs there a KDE/Qt IRC client that supports HTTP proxy (including proxy support for xdcc)?22:38
TimSTrue22:38
zorglu_Dr_willis: X got 2 cut/paste stuff. and so kde/gnome apps poorly interact due to that22:38
Dr_willisof course KDE4 may make it better.22:38
Dr_williszorglu_,  thers settings to sync the cut selection buffer with the cut/paste buffer.22:39
TimSDr_willis: How do I search apt from the cli?22:39
MinceRadept says the database is locked. i've deleted /var/cache/apt/archives/lock as a webpage said and adept still says it's locked22:39
zorglu_Dr_willis: any keyword or url to help me fix this ?22:39
Dr_willisapt-cache search whatever22:39
Dr_williszorglu_,  i think klipper has that feature22:39
MinceRhow can i make adept work again?22:39
Dr_willisI sort of perfer the 2 buffers. :)22:39
Dr_willisOf couse im used to the 'old fashined selection buffer/middle click' method22:40
zorglu_i would prefere to be able to cut/paste :)22:40
Dr_willisctrl-c and ctrl-v works for me in most cases.. cant say that ive ever had an issue with cut/pasteing22:40
zorglu_currently to cut/past from firefox to console, i need to do firefox->eclipse->konsole22:40
TimSAnd anyone else here having problems with the latest nVidia and 7300?22:40
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Dr_willisfirefox does have a plugin to 'auto copy to clipboard' any selections made on a web page22:41
Dr_willisThats handy at times22:41
zorglu_Dr_willis: ok this was my suggestion :) to get cut/paste to work by default :)22:41
Dr_willisI just select text in firefox, right click -> copy, then click in konqueror -> right click paste.22:42
zorglu_Dr_willis: if plugin are required to support cut/paste to have them by default22:42
Dr_willisits working here by default for me.22:42
Dr_willisNot sure what you are doing thats so weird.22:42
zorglu_i guess im unlucky then22:42
Dr_willistechnically firefox is not included in Kubuntu by default. :)22:42
Dr_willisI can select text in firefox, and middle click to paste the selection in Konsole also.22:44
MinceRi guess i'll see if "sudo dpkg --configure -a" fixes things.22:44
zorglu_Dr_willis: it is ok i will keep going thru eclipse22:45
NortyOk, so how do I undo an update?22:48
nick__Hey everyone, I was wondering if someone could help me refine a command for the command line.  I want to copy files to a usb drive "cp *.mp3 /media/MCUSB" but all the files I want to copy are scattered in a variety of sub folders, but those sub folders are all contained within one partent folder.  Is it possible?22:48
MinceRbye22:48
LazarusHello there, whats the difference between apt-get and aptitude?22:48
knightzquestion if i stop the upgrade do i have to start it from the beginning all over again....?22:48
knightzI'm upgrading to 7.10?22:48
Dr_willisaptitude has a 'console gui' and it supposed to be a bit smarter in ways.. but i rarely use it.22:48
Nortyknightz: you would more likely get a broken system.22:49
Lazarusknightz: if you stop the upgrade, you could mess up your system22:49
blekoshi, if a create a new user without administrative permission, on the same pc will he be able to access my home directory?22:49
Lazarusknightz: it happened to me22:49
Lazarusso be weary22:49
blekoseg user1, user222:49
LazarusDr_willis: what do you use?22:49
blekoswill be user2 able to se user's1 files?22:49
knightzso I have to wait for the dam thing to finish upgrading?22:49
Dr_willisI just apt-get install stuff.22:49
Nortyblekos: I don't think so.22:49
Lazarusknightz: yeah, that would be the smart choice22:50
knightzhm.........22:50
knightz11 hour 38min left22:50
Nortyblekos: not unless you specifially allow it, I think.22:50
LazarusDr_willis: the only reason i ask is because i used apt-get to install ubuntustudio-audio, just to check it out22:50
Lazarusthen when i tried to get rid of it, it left all the packages22:50
Dr_willisLazarus,  yep. apttitude will supposebly be a little smarter at removing things.22:51
Dr_willisBut i rarely remove things.. :P22:51
Lazarus!mythtv22:51
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV22:51
Dr_willisive also had aptitude decide to remove 300+ packages.. then it decided to reinstall them22:51
knightzso i can't shut down my system till it's over?22:51
Lazarusknightz: whats your hurry?22:51
Lazarusknightz: it would be unwise22:52
Nortyall: can I get aptitude to undo some upgrades?22:52
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knightzyes I'm using the wireless in the mall22:54
knightzand when the mall close i have to leave!22:54
Dr_willisHide out in the Store! :)22:54
knightzfunny22:54
Dr_willisNo starbucks close eh? :)22:55
Nortyknightz: ok, if it's just downloading, you're ok to power down. Install: bad idea.22:55
knightz9 out of 1068 packages22:55
knightzit's just downloading22:55
Dr_willisactually if its done downloading.. the install can run without network connection22:55
knightzhow long the install takes?22:58
Dr_willisfor 1000+ packages...  id say.. hr or so.22:58
knightzi have a 2.1gig with 512m ram22:58
Dr_willisits almost faster to do a Clean Reinstall  then   upgrade. :)22:58
knightzhm..........22:59
Dr_willisbig speed limit will be the HD speeds.22:59
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knightzth last version was 7.08? then right?22:59
NickPresta7.0422:59
knightzok.......... i thought the new version was 8.10?22:59
NickPresta8.10 implies 2008, month 1023:00
Dr_willisthe LAST version was  7.04 - the latest is 8.10 :)23:00
knightzhm.......... long wait23:00
Nortycorrection: 7.10 -- it isn't 2008 yet.23:00
ardchoillethe LAST version was  7.04 - the latest is 7.1023:00
LazarusDr_willis: 8.10 is out already?23:00
NickPresta:)23:01
Dr_willistypo :)23:01
LazarusDr_willis: what exactly do they have planned for it23:01
ardchoilleLazarus: he's using libtimetravel23:01
ardchoille;P23:01
knightzok if i shut down then it would just start back where i stopped right?23:01
pacman_hey Dr_willis23:01
Dr_willis!ubuntu+123:01
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu23:01
pacman_when I rebuilt this box, I installed 2GB of RAM...in my BIOS, it only shows 512MB23:02
Lazaruswhat is mythtv good for23:02
Lazarusi keep hearing about it23:02
knightzif i knew this i ould of done it at home23:02
knightzif i knew this i would of done it at home23:02
NickPresta!mythtv > Lazarus23:02
pjeideIs there any difference between the Kubuntu dist and the regular Ubuntu dist aside from +KDE -gnome?23:02
knightzyes is there?23:03
Dr_willisLazarus,  i have a mythtv box in the basement recording tv shows :)23:03
LazarusDr_willis: yeah, thats interesting23:03
ardchoillepjeide: It's the same base distro, just a different desktop environment23:03
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Lazaruswikipedia compared it to free tivo23:03
pjeideardchoille: thank you23:03
knightzi love how kubuntu handles memory cards23:03
Dr_willisYep. basicially is TIVO for those that hate Comercials. :)23:03
Dr_willisit can auto-remove comercials.23:04
LazarusDr_willis: how do you have it set up23:04
pjeide!mythtv > pjeide23:04
Lazarusim trying to think of how this can related to my actual television23:04
Dr_willisLazarus,  just the normal defaults for the most part. I just knew where to click to 'enable auto comercial skip' :)23:05
Dr_willisamd64 2 ghz box, nvidia 6800 card. and Loads of HD space.23:05
LazarusDr_willis: no, i mean how would you set it up for your living room23:05
Lazarusrather than computer23:05
Dr_willisI installed the 'mythbuntu'  disrto.23:05
Dr_willisset it up?  the pc just sits below the tv. :)23:05
Dr_willisit auto boots to MythTV23:06
LazarusDr_willis: very interesting23:06
Lazarusi don't know thatd id waste good hardware for something akin to tivo though23:06
Dr_willisactually in the basemnt i got it hooked to a Monior and the TV. i get a normal Desktop on the PC moniotr. I got a MythTV client for the living room23:07
Lazarusi have an old crappy box laying around23:07
Dr_willisI have several. :)23:07
pjeideI've mulled over the idea of turning this box into a media center/file server when finished with it.. something like MythTV might be a good push in the right direction..23:07
LazarusDr_willis: how do you stop/start and such from a remote control23:07
Dr_willisit has support for my remote. :) i just hit play/move the arrows around and so forth.23:08
LazarusDr_willis: ah, i see23:08
Lazaruswhat model23:08
spencerare the repostitories down?  I can't update gutsy.23:08
Lazarusjeez, i love this stuff23:08
Lazarusa full work around of shitty commercial products23:08
Dr_willisi do perfer a full wireless keyboard. - that way i can  Play Frozenbubble on the tv. :)23:08
Lazarusid never buy tivo in a million years23:09
Lazarusim cheap23:09
Dr_willisI got a tivo gave to me. Its in the closet.23:09
Lazarusheh, a huge wireless keyboard would be a little bulky23:09
Lazarusi try to keep tv/media separate from my computer23:10
Lazarusotherwise id have no reason to leave my room23:10
Dr_willisThey got little ones also. :)23:10
Dr_willisOr ya could always just use a wireless gamepad.23:10
Lazarusvery very intriguing23:10
Dr_willisor ya just run some ps2 cables under the floor to the couch.23:10
LazarusDr_willis: you have enlightened me somewhat more to the capabilities of the hardware i have laying around23:10
Dr_willisIm waiting for those USB-Wireless hubs to get common. then i canhave all theusb things done wirelessly. :)23:11
LazarusDr_willis: how would you get a gamepad to work23:11
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Dr_willisplug it in.. it works. :)23:11
pjeideI am rather pleased that I happened across the conversation at this juncture as well.23:11
Dr_willisyou may need to define all the buttons in a config.23:11
spencerany one having trouble updating?23:11
Lazarusi dont have a ps2 actually23:11
Dr_willis#ubuntu-mythtv is a good place to check for info also.23:12
shane_Keyboard shortcut for increasing/decreasing master volume not showing on OSD...Is there a fix for this?23:12
Lazarusbut id buy a custom remote, or even a wireless keyboard i guess23:12
Dr_willisI found the remote a bit laggy.. and i had a wireless keybord handy. :)23:12
Dr_willisid like to find a mini keyboard with a little trackball.23:13
Dr_williswireless.23:13
pjeideI'd like one of those for an in-car rig.23:13
LazarusDr_willis: id need a mouse as well23:13
Lazarusjeez, the possibilities are endless23:13
Lazarusi dont really watch much tv, but id do stuff anyway just for the hell of it23:14
Dr_willisthen you can also have MythTV client box's around the house so others can watch what the main backend has recorded23:14
Dr_willisI tend to record shows. burn them to dvd. or convert->copy to laptop to watch23:14
pjeidethat sounds like a pretty nice feature23:14
Dr_willisits gotten where i cant stand to watch normal tv. I want pause-at-any-time, and no comercials. :P23:14
LazarusDr_willis: indeed23:15
Dr_willisplus the mythtv box can play about any video format you can toss at it.23:15
shane_I'd rather watch my netflix movies :) tv just doesn'23:15
Lazarusi was at my aunts house last night and was amazed at the possibilities23:15
shane_t entertain me much23:15
Lazarusshe has tivo23:15
Lazarusshane_: me either23:15
Dr_willisim the opposite - i hate movies23:15
Lazarusi like movies over shows23:16
Lazarusmost shows nowadays are somewhat crappy23:16
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Lazarusbut history channel specials and whatnot i always want to record23:16
shane_I enjoy south park, but that's about it on tv23:16
Lazarussouth park and such23:16
shane_ha yeah23:16
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andreas_why cant i play the whole .flv movie? In Firefor and Konqueror.23:16
blekoshi, although i've chosen for the mounted drives to appear on the desktop that's not the case anybody having the same "problem" [i'm running 7.10 dual boot]23:17
knightzoff the wall question where can i get software to unlock the sony ericsson w880i phones?23:18
_novocaine_Hi. Does anyone know if there's a way to extend windows all the way to the right of the screen so the scrollbar touches the edge?23:18
shane_blekos, are the drives accessible at all?23:18
shane_or just not on the desktop23:18
NeoFaxI am having a problem with the following:  "weird, boot cpu (#15) not listed by BIOS"23:18
_novocaine_I hate missing it and resizing the window by accident23:18
robotphooddoes anyone here know how to add konqueror service menus to dolphin?23:18
weswh-does anyone know of a good program that will let a linux system and a windows system send/receive files. would use google chat, but it won't work with my friend on windows23:19
andreas_why cant i play the whole .flv movie? In Firefor and Konqueror.23:19
weswh-so i am just looking for a small application that could do that for both platforms23:19
shane_weswh, how bout pidgin?23:19
blekosyes 100% accessible and r-w/able23:19
vit____hello23:19
bbm4nguys how can i revert changes in kubuntu?23:19
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LazarusDr_willis: what do you plug the coaxial into23:20
LazarusDr_willis: im trying to make a diagram of what i would need to do23:20
weswh-shane...yeah, I am using pidgin. see if I can talk him into it.23:21
weswh-i didn't consider that pidgin to pidgin would work23:21
LazarusDr_willis: how do you have av i/o set up23:21
yendorI cannot see the drives in the media directory in dolphin23:22
sourcemakeris this the right channel for nvidia problems in gusty?23:22
NeoFaxI am having a problem with the following:  "weird, boot cpu (#15) not listed by BIOS"23:22
shane_weswh, pidgin transfers files..if you have problems, be sure your ip address is correct in your preferences and that you're opening the right port in your firewall23:22
weswh-yeah, just when he's done it through google talk, it says my client doesn't support it.23:23
yendorlag?23:23
shane_weswh, interesting..I thought for sure I've sent files to people using google talk before23:23
nareshovdoesn't kopete work?23:23
sourcemakermy nvidia geforce3 is not working anymore in gusty... in feisty everythink was working wel... any solutions?23:23
shane_nareshov, kopete does transfer as well23:24
shane_sourcemaker, what's the problem?23:24
nareshovtoo bad kopete doesn't have http proxy support :\23:24
nareshovand neither does konversation23:25
yendora minute ago I could see the partitions in storage media but now I cannot, it happens at time and Im forced to reboot to solve it...can you help me please?23:25
shane_nareshov, I think kopete falls short on many features, but that's just my opinion...pidgin probably isn't any better. We sure could use a google talk type program for linux23:25
NeoFaxshane_: Ever try psi?23:26
nareshovyep. I'm currently using psi on KDE23:26
shane_NeoFax, yes I have..I do like some of the features, but I wasn't too impressed with the UI. I'm probably being too picky23:26
Dr_willisLazarus,  the tv tuner card has  the inputs for the tv.23:27
Dr_willisLazarus,  then video card out goes to the TV itself.23:28
yendormedia:/ protocol is failing in my kubuntu..can you help me pls?23:28
LazarusDr_willis: ah, i see23:28
sourcemakerwhen starting the xserver... the xserver crashs with the error message api missmatch kernel module 9631 nvidia version 963923:29
sourcemakerusing geforce323:30
shane_sourcemaker: How did you install this driver?23:30
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sourcemakerfirst... i tried the new registry driver module from systems settings (kde) gusty... is was not workingthen i used apt23:30
yendorarent you capabl of helping me?! :(23:31
sourcemakerrestricted driver i mean23:31
shane_sourcemaker: Well, you have the wrong restricted modules installed. Find the ones that match your Nvidia version23:31
Dr_willisapt and the 'restricted-manager' tool install the same packages.23:31
Dr_willisunless you mean you used 'dkpg -i SOMTHINGYouDownloadeed.deb'23:32
Dr_willisinstead of apt-get install nvidia-glx23:32
sourcemakerI used apt-get install nvidia-glx23:32
sourcemakerI n feisty... everythink was working well23:33
yendormedia:/ protocol is failing in my kubuntu..can you help me pls?23:33
shane_sourcemaker: Did you upgrade from feisty?23:33
sourcemakernever touch a running system.... yes... I have23:33
shane_sourcemaker: Have you heard of the program called Envy?23:34
sourcemakerNo i am sorry... I have not head this programm yet23:34
Dr_willisdont even mess with envy, :) heh heh...23:34
Dr_williswell i guess ya can if you are brave/foolhardy23:34
shane_not a fan Dr_willis?23:34
shane_haha23:34
sourcemakeris it stable?23:34
Dr_willisi see a large # of people in here a week with "i used envy, and now its not working"23:35
shane_Hmm..maybe you're right then...23:35
Dr_willisIn fact IF you use envy. and then theres a kernel upgrade.. you must reinstall the nvidia drivers with envey again manually23:35
ardchoilleDr_willis: I didn't think envy and automatix were even necessary anymore23:35
Dr_willisardchoille,  as far as im concerned they are not.. then again.. they never were necessary. :)23:36
ardchoilleTrue23:36
sourcemakerI am not interessed in beeing your alpha-tester of Envy23:36
sourcemaker;-)23:36
shane_I think they can help people who may have a hard time installing things on their own, but that could turn into a big debate, ha23:36
Lazarusyeah, envy is a short term fix23:36
yendormedia:/ protocol is failing in my kubuntu..can you help me pls?23:36
shane_haha23:36
Dr_willisI would rate envy  better then AUtomatix. :)23:36
Lazarusits given me problems before23:36
shane_I haven't had any problems, but maybe I've been lucky23:36
Lazarusautomatix is the devil23:36
Dr_willisshane_,  very lucky23:36
NeoFaxI wouldn't so much as blame envy as I would blame the nvidia installer program23:37
sourcemakerI had no problems with drapper or feisty.23:37
Dr_willisi normally just use restricted-manager tool and never have problems. :)23:37
NeoFaxAll envy is a script nothing more.23:37
shane_I hear ya Dr_willis23:37
shane_I do the same23:37
shane_But how do you suggest sourcemaker gets out of this without knowing how to mess with his modules to fix his nvidia card?23:38
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shane_I mean I could remote into his machine or something (not!)23:38
sourcemakerI have also used gentoo 4 years... and my nvidia driver was always working...23:38
NeoFaxIt is better to use the apt program to handle 99% of your system as it is great.  Using scripts that do the same as apt is just asking for trouble.23:38
ardchoilleI just do "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and the nividia drivers are installed. Takes jus a few minutes and you don't have to open a gui for it :)23:38
excitatorywhere would i find the md5sum of the kubuntu desktop cd iso?23:38
sourcemaker "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable => did not work for m23:39
Dr_willisIf the kernel verison and nvidia versjions differ. they wont work.  You may need to figure out why they are differeing.23:39
NeoFaxsourcemaker: After doing that, what exactly was the eroor you received in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?23:39
Dr_willisan apt-get update, and upgrade, THEN try reinstalling the nvidia drivers.. may be the best route.23:39
ardchoillesourcemaker: Then you have a weird system, that has worked for me on over 200 machines.23:39
Dr_willishas the nvidia stuff ever worked? when did it break? :)23:40
ardchoillelol23:40
NeoFaxDr_willis: Try ATI23:40
Dr_willisYou dont want to know what i do to ATI.23:40
Dr_willis:P23:40
ardchoillehehe23:40
Dr_willisactually the one ATI box i have.. restricted-manager handles it also.23:41
shane_ha..maybe these open drivers that are going to come out for ATI (someday) will change things23:41
yendorI found a workaround thanks for not helping me23:41
zibrah3edno problem23:41
Dr_willisyou are welcomed.23:41
shane_yendor: sorry we didn't know what was wrong with your storage media23:41
Dr_willisshame on us for not knowing every obscoure bug I guess.23:41
ardchoilleyendor: Not everyone in here knows everything there is to know about Linux.23:41
NeoFaxAnyone know how to fic this:  "weird, boot cpu (#15) not listed by BIOS"23:42
zibrah3edThey don't?23:42
shane_ardchoille: I do..haha yeah right23:42
ardchoillelol23:42
NeoFaxMy pc worked fine until I rebooted a while ago23:42
shane_my knowledge = /dev/null23:42
sourcemaker(II) Setting vga for screen 0.(**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32(==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888(==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor(==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "NoLogo" "True"(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "NvAGP" "1"(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "RenderAccel" "true"(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "1"(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"(**) NVIDIA(0): Enabl23:42
sourcemakerA internal AGP requested(II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is(II) NVIDIA(0):     enabled.(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! Please ensure(EE) NVIDIA(0):     that there is a supported NVIDIA GPU in this system, and(EE) NVIDIA(0):     that the NVIDIA device files have been created properly.(EE) NVIDIA(0):     Please consult the NVIDIA README for details.(EE) NVIDIA(0):  **23:42
sourcemakerdModule: "fb"(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.23:42
NeoFaxsourcemaker: Please use pastebin23:42
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Lazaruswhats the difference between ext3 and reiserFS filesystems23:43
yendorit apparent that it is quite a very common bug in Kubuntu 7.10 guys23:43
Dr_willissourcemaker,  that looks like your monitor settings are incorrect. Not the nvidia card settings.23:43
NeoFaxLazarus: Support23:43
yendorat least t should draqw some attention23:43
ardchoilleyendor: What was the rpboelm?23:43
shane_Lazarus: reiserfs was created by a murderer23:43
zibrah3edgd typed it b4 me23:43
Lazarusshane_: ha, you have to explain that23:43
yendorfor an unknown reason media:/ was not showing any content23:44
NeoFaxsourcemaker: Try doing sudo modprobe nvidia23:44
yendornothing although the mounts are ok23:44
Dr_willis!reiserfs23:44
ubotureiserfs is a journalling file system, which outperforms many others on I/O operations, but has drawbacks (such as increasing likelihood of data loss, and introducing latency unsuitable for gaming or real-time audio). Using !ext3, the default on Ubuntu, is *highly* recommended. A read-only Windows driver is available at http://p-nand-q.com/download/rfstool.html23:44
sourcemakerOn the console... I get the message: API missmatch the kernel version is 1.0-9631 the x server module is 963023:44
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NeoFaxshane_: Innocent until proven guilty23:44
ardchoilleyendor: Ah, ok. Well, I use bash as a file manager, so I don't use "media:/".23:44
shane_Lazarus: The guy who created it was accused of murdering his girlfriend..yeah, I was joshing NeoFax haha23:44
Dr_willissourcemaker,  So has this nvidia card ever worked?23:45
Lazarushmm, ive been using reiserfs for a long time on many systems23:45
Lazarusnever had too much trouble23:45
Lazarusi guess you all use ext3?23:45
shane_I do23:45
Dr_willisI lost a few 100gb on a reiserfs once.. so now  i use ext323:45
zibrah3edOnly on opensuse machines23:45
* nareshov has been using reiserfs for two years now23:45
sourcemakeryes... on festy bevore doing the upgrade23:45
Dr_willisreally i have little to gain from reiserfs.23:45
NeoFaxLazarus: Will it work a year from now without support?  SuSE maintains only bugs now23:45
shane_opensuse uses ext3 by default now23:45
zibrah3edyes they did at 10.323:46
* ardchoille has never used anyting other than ext323:46
NeoFaxThe company Hans Reiser started is working on Reiser 3 and has no intention to support Reiser223:46
Dr_willissourcemaker,  Upgrades ahh.. Well it could be the kernel has not been upgraded yet. or the drivers havent.  I never use upgrades so not sure of the proper way to be sure everything upgraded23:46
LazarusEw, reiserfs came out of suse?23:46
Lazarusi despise suse23:46
zibrah3edno23:46
sourcemakeri used the dist-upgrade command---23:46
sourcemakereverythink was fine23:46
sourcemakerexcept the nvidia card23:46
Dr_willissourcemaker,  id try it again to be sure, then do a sudo apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade again...23:47
ardchoillesourcemaker: You upgraded to Gytsy with "dist-upgrade"?23:47
NeoFaxsourcemaker: How was it setup in feisty?  with restricted modules or using the NVIDIA installer?23:47
nareshovShould he try the module-assistant method? sudo m-a a-i nvidia ?23:47
NeoFaxLazarus: No, Reiser was designed by Hans Reiser who lives near San Francisco and SuSE only championed it back when Linus Torvalds would not include it straight in the kernel.23:48
sourcemakerNeoFax : on feisty... i used the restricted modules: I was a fresh clean install... without upgrading from drapper...Yes... all update are installed....23:48
ubuzztuwhere can i find the latest java sdk/jvm? sources?23:48
LazarusNeoFax: interesting23:48
shane_Why doesn't the OSD work with keyboard shortcuts controlling my master volume23:48
sourcemakerI switched from gentoo distro to kubuntu... so i was doing a fresh install...23:48
zibrah3edhow can you not setup a video card if you used gentoo?23:49
sourcemakerafter I have read the release notes of gusty... I have done the upgrade... based on the upgrade guide23:49
nareshovyeah :P23:49
Dr_willissounds to me like the kernel, or the drivers didient upgrade properly23:49
sourcemakerwell... on gentoo... I compile the kernel and drivers myself...23:49
zibrah3edyou still can23:49
sourcemakerbut i won't do that in kubuntu23:49
NeoFaxsourcemaker: Try booting into a differnet kernel and then apt-getting the restricted modules for that kernel and reinstalling nvidia-glx to see if it is a symlink problem23:50
blekoshi, in my work we have a win 2003 server with active directory etc. Is it possible a terminal running linux to23:50
blekosmap an ntfs drive?23:50
zibrah3edbiekos: rdesktop can connect to windows terminal server23:50
NeoFaxblekos: yes with samba23:50
sourcemakerNeoFax : "sourcemaker: Try booting into a differnet kernel and then apt-getting the restricted modules for that kernel and reinstalling nvidia-glx to see if it is a symlink problem" => i have already tryed this ;;-)23:51
blekosso i have to install samba on the linux terminal?23:51
Dr_willisactually just to get TO the  windows machine. i dont think you need to install samba.. but  i may be wrong.23:52
Dr_willis the kde file manager has a samba:/ feature23:52
NeoFaxOpen nvidia-glx in like kpackage and see what symlinks it installs and see if your system matches those symlinks.  Also, try sudo updatedb then locate nvidia.ko23:52
sourcemakermaybe it is better to use gentoo... and doing all the stuff myself...  everythink was working well23:52
Dr_willis smb://mshome/    :) in my case23:52
blekosand how to i do that?23:52
ubuzztuwhere can i find the latest java sdk/jvm? sources?23:52
NeoFaxThis will tell you where the nvidia kernel driver is located.23:52
Dr_willissourcemaker,  problkems like  yours are the reasin i never upgrade.  I keep /home seperate and do clean installs. :(23:53
blekosi just plug in the kubuntu terminal? (i guess i'm looking for an option equivelant "map network drive"23:53
NeoFaxsourcemaker: Different strokes for different folks.  If Gentoo worked well, I would have stuck with it.  I used to use it until it became a burden maintaining my machine23:53
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Dr_willisblekos,  system:/remote   shows icons to get to the smb, and other network servers23:54
sourcemakerNeoFax: I used to use it until it became a burden maintaining my machine => That's the reason... why I will kubuntu a try23:54
NeoFaxblekos: Go to samba.org and they have tutorials there for exactly what u are asking23:54
Dr_willisor couse if the old ubuntu worked.. :)  why upgrade at all.23:55
Dr_willisFor the WIGGLY WINDOWS! :) thats why23:55
Lazarusjeez, why can you just watch tv through a lan cable23:55
NeoFaxLazarus: Try joost23:55
Lazarus!joost23:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about joost - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:55
Dr_willisI watch tv throgh my lan cable. :)23:55
LazarusDr_willis: what, thats crazy23:55
sourcemakerDr_willis: Is the problem of all software developers... the always want to have the newest version available23:55
ExcelsiorTry XTV23:55
[ka]killer=O23:55
Excelsior*XDTV23:55
Dr_willisit is running a mythtv client on one end.. and mythtv server on the other.23:56
NeoFaxI can using my Xbox360 and Vista's Media Center23:56
Dr_willisactually Im not sure i can watch livetv.. or just the recorded shows..23:56
LazarusDr_willis: what do you use to watch it through lan?23:56
NeoFaxI wish Myth would come out with a MCE capable backend23:56
Dr_willisLazarus,  MythTV23:56
Dr_willisI just fired it up. i can watch live tv on the mythtv server23:56
LazarusDr_willis: Ah, then whats this 'joost' that NeoFax just mentioned23:57
NeoFaxDoes anyone know how to fix my boot BIOS problem?23:57
ExcelsiorQuery, good sirs! I recently dled and did a fresh install of Gutsy, and wouldn't you know it? My wifi doesn't work! (WPA) It lists eth0 for my device, but it also says there is "No active device" and it also lists a false IP address (169.XXX.XXX.XX) Any suggestions so I can get my wifi working? Much appreciated.23:57
NeoFaxJoost is a IPTV system.  It allows you to connect to free and payperview shows thru the internet23:58
LazarusNeoFax: i dont see where it runs on linux23:58
zibrah3edWhat wireless adapter you have would be a start23:58
NeoFaxGo to the ubuntuforums and there is a tutorial on how to install it under wine23:58
sourcemakerwelll... fuck up the shit... I will buy a new nvidia card... so everything will working fine... without have always problems with the old legacy cards23:59
NeoFaxsourcemaker: What video card do you actually have?23:59
ardchoille!ohmy | sourcemaker23:59
Excelsiorzibrah3ed:: Are you talking to me?23:59
ubotusourcemaker: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.23:59
Lazarussourcemaker: legacy cards are lame to get working23:59
zibrah3edExcelsior: Yes23:59
sourcemakera very old geforce323:59

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