[01:19] <MythbuntuGuest53> did anybody else's mythvideo got broke by the trunk build?
[01:49] <Aval0n> guys what's the command to make mplayer play dvds in the player settings?
[01:59] <Toxicity999> anyone know if the mythplugins suite are being generated in the weekly unstable builds anytime soon? Still old mythplugins in the repo, so tons of version mismatch error calls.
[02:04] <rhpot1991> which plugins are you having a problem with?
[02:05] <rhpot1991> versions should be the same, 0.20.2 I think
[02:06] <dattas> I updated to the newest trunk version of mythbuntu and now i cannot get into mythvideos... can anybody help?
[02:06] <Toxicity999> rhpot1991 Like I said, unstable weekly builds,
[02:07] <Toxicity999> dattas Unstable too?
[02:07] <dattas> yes
[02:07] <dattas> crashed once or twice
[02:07] <dattas> weirdest thing ever
[02:07] <Toxicity999> Same, the plugins aren't uploaded yet for unstable.
[02:07] <dattas> i don't think mythtv has ever crashed since
[02:07] <dattas> er before that
[02:07] <Toxicity999> if you look at the output in a terminal you'll see the plugins all fail to load
[02:07] <Toxicity999> and some things will pop up a version inconsistancy warning in myth
[02:08] <dattas> i have seen that version inconsistancy as well
[02:08] <dattas> oh wow yeah, unable to initialize plugin... and all of them are there...
[02:09] <Toxicity999> Yea, then it's nothing to fear... when whoever maintains the unstable repo updates the plugin packages it'll work fine again.
[02:09] <Toxicity999> you just can basically only watch Tv 'till then =/
[02:09] <dattas> is there an eta?
[02:09] <Toxicity999> No clue
[02:09] <Toxicity999> I was just asking
[02:09] <dattas> dang...
[02:09] <dattas> wanted to watch some survive and some totally rad show
[02:10] <Toxicity999> the rest of the packages were updated... last night I think it might have been. And plugins isn't a complex build, so I don't know if it just was forgotten or something's going on.
[02:11] <dattas> it is not anything with the mythplugins... i re-compliled them all and i still get the same error
[02:11] <dattas> it must be the main package
[02:11] <Toxicity999> well
[02:11] <Toxicity999> you're compiling against the old mythlib still
[02:11] <Toxicity999> the versions need to match perfectly, or it doesn't run it.
[02:11] <dattas> oh? i thought it said it was updating libmyth...
[02:12] <Toxicity999> mines up to date... eh... *shrug*
[02:12] <Toxicity999> plus you probably installed to /usr/local (the default)
[02:12] <Toxicity999> where the packages float in /usr
[02:13] <Toxicity999> best to just wait it out, compiling over it will just possibly make more inconsistencies.
[02:14] <Toxicity999> On the site it calls it automated... so with this long of a gapping.. I think there must be a problem no ones seen yet.
[02:14] <dattas> i think i might just svn it and see if i can get it to work... i don't like to wait and if i screw it up, i can always just redownload the new trunk build from the automation
[02:14] <dattas> i hate waiting... lol
[02:15] <Toxicity999> Likewise, I'd do the same if kde-devel weren't broken in ubuntu hardy
[02:15] <Toxicity999> I used to do that anyway
[02:15] <Toxicity999> I just got lazy.
[02:16] <Toxicity999> well there's a section of the bugboards for svn trunk builds.
[02:16] <dattas> why you not using gutsy?
[02:17] <Toxicity999> I always test for ubuntu.
[02:17] <dattas> ah
[02:20] <Toxicity999> Alright wrote up a quick report.
[02:20] <dattas> where should mythtv be installed to for ubuntu?
[02:20] <Toxicity999> well the packages install to /usr but by default compiling installs to /usr/local
[02:20] <dattas> ah
[02:21] <Toxicity999> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu-trunk/+bug/163264
[02:23] <Toxicity999> Someone should see that soon through alerts and such.
[02:23] <dattas> yup
[02:23] <dattas> in the meantime i am compliling it to /usr :D
[02:25] <dattas> now i just gotta decide if i wanna play GH3 or AC :D
[02:27] <Toxicity999> Lol.
[02:28] <Toxicity999> Firing up miro to kill some time myself *yawn*
[02:31] <dattas> lol i would be doing that except mine is compliling
[03:42] <MythbuntuGuest43> Anyone ever seen the following when trying to watch TV: RemoteEncoder::0penControlSocket(): Connection timed out.
[04:17] <rsriverrat> hello people
[04:18] <rsriverrat> anyone up tonight that might beable to help me out for a sec?
[04:21] <rsriverrat> >	can anyone provide the ./configure settings for an svn build i need to do please?
[04:53] <rsriverrat> can anyone provide the ./configure settings for an svn build i need to do please?
[05:20] <rhpot1991> anyone have any idea if transcoding works on backends when the files are located on another backend, my systems seem to fail when that is the case
[05:26] <MythbuntuGuest85> hello... anyone here care to answer an install question about display configurations?
[05:33] <Wy|laptop> Sure, what sort?
[05:38] <MythbuntuGuest85> ok, cool... here's my issue.
[05:40] <MythbuntuGuest85> i have an nvidia gforce4, with s-video out.  i've enabled the proprietary driver that comes with mythbuntu.  i would like a mirror display setting so that i can always plug in a monitor to change settings, etc.  but i also want the main display to be my s-video-attached TV.  there seems to be no way to do this.  what do you recommend instead?
[05:55] <Aval0n> what's the best app for playing dvd's from mythtv?
[05:56] <Aval0n> the internal player gets the languages wrong all the time, and mplayer doesn't have dvd menus...
[06:04] <toorima> xine is popular
[06:04] <Aval0n> excellent
[06:04] <Aval0n> do you happen to know the package name?
[06:05] <toorima> gxine i think
[06:05] <toorima> sudo apt-get install gxine
[06:05] <Aval0n> cool thanks
[06:06] <toorima> np
[06:06] <Aval0n> I guess that means more lircrc stuff to setup
[06:06] <Aval0n> *sigh*
[06:06] <toorima> xine is normaly in the lircrc already
[06:07] <Wy|laptop> Mythbuntu-guest: use the nvidia display utility
[06:07] <Wy|laptop> Avalon: I just use mplayer.. it does too have dvd menus
[06:08] <Wy|laptop> Also, you should be able to activate xine in mythbuntu from a single button-press
[06:08] <Wy|laptop> in mythcontrolcenter
[06:11] <rsriverrat> hey since there are some people talking now i have a ?
[06:12] <Aval0n> mythcontrolcenter?
[06:12] <Aval0n> never heard of it
[06:12] <Wy|laptop> Aval0n: Are you using Mythbuntu?
[06:12] <Aval0n> no
[06:12] <Aval0n> feisty
[06:12] <Wy|laptop> :P
[06:12]  * Wy|laptop points at /topic
[06:12] <Aval0n> :)
[06:12] <Aval0n> heheeh sorry
[06:12] <rsriverrat> does anyone know the proper ./configure settings for mythbuntu when compiling from svn
[06:13] <Wy|laptop> er .. what part of mythbuntu are you compiling, rsriverrat?
[06:13] <rsriverrat> mythtv trunk
[06:13] <rsriverrat> and/or.20- fixes
[06:14] <Wy|laptop> Aval0n: check out mythbuntu, then. it's a gutsy based myth-centric distro
[06:14] <Wy|laptop> rsriverrat: not sure. Shouldn't it be system specific?
[06:14] <Wy|laptop> I mean, specific to your system settings
[06:14] <rsriverrat> well what i actually need is the install prefix, for example knoppmyth is /usr
[06:15] <Wy|laptop> why aren't you making debs?
[06:15] <rsriverrat> to be honest, all ive ever done is compile from svn and then a make and make install, ive obly used fedora and knoppmyth
[06:16] <rsriverrat> new to mythbuntu
[06:16] <Wy|laptop> Ah, that's why.
[06:16] <Wy|laptop> The 'debian' way is to make a package, then install the package
[06:16] <rsriverrat> ohhhh k.... is that hard?
[06:16] <Wy|laptop> instead of compiling from source and make install
[06:16] <Wy|laptop> nope.
[06:17] <rsriverrat> i can use my patched source to make the .deb?
[06:17] <Wy|laptop> read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[06:18] <rsriverrat> i will have a read of that tomorrow, thanks
[06:19] <Wy|laptop> Yeah, that way if you upgrade your package in the future, it doesn't leave crap all over the place
[06:19] <rsriverrat> i noticed when i tried compiling and installing svn tonight that mythbackend was never upgraded, even after reboot, so something is awry
[06:19] <Wy|laptop> =)
[06:20] <rsriverrat> i am sure making debs will still require a location to install too
[06:20] <rsriverrat> or will it not?
[06:22] <Wy|laptop> iirc, it should use the same parameters as the package you're building from
[06:22] <Aval0n> xine -pfhq --no-splash dvd:/
[06:22] <Aval0n> is that right?
[06:22] <Aval0n> cause it's not launching my dvd
[06:23] <Wy|laptop> Why are you fscing with the svn packages, anyways, rs?
[06:23] <Wy|laptop> Avalon: dvd:// ?
[06:23] <Wy|laptop> oops, my bad
[06:24] <Wy|laptop> Avalon: do you have libdvdcss2?
[06:24] <rsriverrat> there are certain patches i have to apply to allow true dvb sat scanning
[06:24] <rsriverrat> 5 diffs changing about 10 files total
[06:24] <Wy|laptop> rsriverrat: and you're sure they're not in myth already?
[06:24] <rsriverrat> i know for a fact
[06:24] <Aval0n> yeah I do
[06:25] <Aval0n> i've been playing dvd's with mplayer and mythtv internal
[06:25] <Wy|laptop> aval0n: what happens if you just launch xine and then select dvd manually? does it work?
[06:25] <Wy|laptop> rs: did you submit the bug into launchpad as well?
[06:25] <Wy|laptop> for the future, I mean
[06:26] <rsriverrat> i have the procedure down to a science, ive even made a script to automate it
[06:26] <rsriverrat> well its not a bug i have really
[06:26] <Wy|laptop> sure, but woulnd't it be better to move it into the base package so that you can stop needing to do that?
[06:26] <Wy|laptop> and help out others?
[06:26] <Aval0n> I don't have kb/mouse hooked up to this thing
[06:26] <Aval0n> so it's hard to test stuff like that
[06:27] <Wy|laptop> aval0n: heh, I have a little usb keyboard for just that reason
[06:27] <toorima> m2
[06:27] <rsriverrat> well what i am doing isnt exactly 100% legal, it is but it isnt, its kinda a gray area
[06:27] <toorima> Aval0n: vnc?
[06:28] <Wy|laptop> rs: *grin* and libdvdcss2 is?
[06:28] <rsriverrat> i want to watch nasa on a dish net satellite, its a free channel, however myth doesnt scan north american sats unless it has these patches
[06:29] <rsriverrat> well ok point well taken
[06:29] <Wy|laptop> rs: *laugh* I know I'm being silly, but you'd think that for nasaTV, it'd be easier to point mythstream to the nasa webpage
[06:30] <rsriverrat> technically the patches are legal, its the *other* software that makes it illegal
[06:30] <Wy|laptop> eh?
[06:30] <Aval0n> now I have this big grey box playing over the DVD
[06:31] <Aval0n> xine settings
[06:31] <Aval0n> lol
[06:31] <Aval0n> does that always pop up?
[06:31] <rsriverrat> in either case i have to rebuild mythtv and install my new patched version of mythtv
[06:31] <Aval0n> is svn a lot better than .20.2?
[06:32] <rsriverrat> Wy: are u familiar with dvb sat cards at all
[06:32] <Wy|laptop> rs: not really
[06:32] <rsriverrat> ok, well u can get dish programming with *other* software
[06:32] <Wy|laptop> avalon: odd. what are you using for vid drivers? Like I said, we'r emostly on mythbuntu here
[06:33] <Wy|laptop> and xine / mplayer are a LOT better on mythbuntu vs feisty
[06:33] <rsriverrat> the patched mythtv just allows u to scan dish network sats is all
[06:34] <rsriverrat> in the past with either fedora or knoppmyth after i patched myth i would run
[06:34] <rsriverrat> sudo ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-dvb --enable-xvmc --enable-proc-opt --enable-xvmc
[06:34] <Aval0n> nvidia drivers
[06:34] <Wy|laptop> open source or nvidia ones?
[06:34] <Aval0n> you have enable xvmc twice :)
[06:34] <Aval0n> the glx drivers
[06:34] <rsriverrat> scratch the sudo part, thats from my current script
[06:35] <Aval0n> it's gone now after i've rebooted myth
[06:35] <Aval0n> I see the mouse cursor for a second or two though lol
[06:35] <Wy|laptop> aval0n: odd. does it work now?
[06:35] <Aval0n> yes
[06:36] <Aval0n> but oddly it looks interlaced
[06:36] <Wy|laptop> hrm. you're doing video-out?
[06:36] <Wy|laptop> I output to a projector, so ...
[06:36] <Aval0n> hdmi out
[06:36] <Wy|laptop> =)
[06:36] <Wy|laptop> Aval0n: nice. dvi > hdmi adapter?
[06:37] <Aval0n> no just hdmi
[06:37] <Aval0n> and it carries my audio to the TV
[06:37] <Wy|laptop> nice.
[06:37] <Aval0n> :)
[06:37] <Wy|laptop> what card?
[06:37] <Aval0n> 7300gs
[06:37] <Wy|laptop> heh. I have one in mine right now, didn't know that it had a HDMI out version
[06:37] <Aval0n> wow xine is like doign english and not french!
[06:37] <Aval0n> lol
[06:37] <Aval0n> mti makes the one with hdmi out
[06:38] <Wy|laptop> I have a HD2400 that isn't in that machine that does hdmi
[06:38] <Aval0n> does xine have a skip to root menu option?
[06:38] <Aval0n> cool
[06:38] <Wy|laptop> avalon: no, but you can hit fast forward a few times
[06:38] <Wy|laptop> iirc
[06:38] <Aval0n> hmm ok
[06:38] <Aval0n> the interlacing is weirding me out
[06:40] <Wy|laptop> hrm.
[06:40] <Wy|laptop> try using the deinterlacing flag
[06:42] <rsriverrat> i just did a sudo apt-get source mythtv, and i think i found what i was looking for
[06:42] <Wy|laptop> rs: *grin*
[06:42] <rsriverrat> settings.pro says the install prefix is /usr/local
[06:42] <rsriverrat> instead of /usr
[06:43] <Aval0n> hmmm so mplayer does dvd menus?
[06:43] <Aval0n> it wasn't for me
[06:43] <Wy|laptop> Aval0n: yeah, I'm using the default one here
[06:43] <Wy|laptop> rs: makes sense.
[06:43] <Wy|laptop> too lazy to change things if it works
[06:43] <rsriverrat> by doing that last command that got me the mythbuntu mythtv source correct?
[06:44] <Wy|laptop> I used to use xine, though,b ecause mplayer didn't when I was using gentoo for my myth box
[06:44] <Wy|laptop> rs: yeah
[06:44] <Aval0n> what is your command string for mplayer wy?
[06:44] <rsriverrat> ok cool i'll give it a shot, will you be on tomorrow night? if so i'll let you know how it goes
[06:45] <Wy|laptop> avalon: I'd have to go downstairs to check the htpc
[06:45] <Wy|laptop> but remember I am using a newer version of mplayer
[06:45] <Wy|laptop> rs: someone will be.
[06:46] <Wy|laptop> Odds are I will be on, but idle :P
[06:50] <rsriverrat> Wyl: thanks for the tips, if i can get this to build and install correctly i will give making debs a go, i love linux but sometimes old school works too
[06:53] <rsriverrat> now if i can get the mythmusic deps figured out i'll be good to go
[06:53] <rsriverrat> libmad and libid3tag are required, of which i have both
[06:55] <MythbuntuGuest55> can anyone tell me what I should have my dvd rom listed under in /media?  Trying to add a dvd post-installation...
[07:07] <Sjors> hi, i'm having trouble connecting from a new frontend system to an existing system (FE+BE). I can connect with mysql (mysql -u mythtv -h 192.168.2.11 -p mythtv, where 192.168.2.11 is the IP address of my backend system). The problem is that mythfrontend says it cannot connect to the master backend, which is set to 192.168.2.11. Any ideas where to look?
[16:57] <williammanda> hey guys
[16:58] <williammanda> I did an update and restarted my computer....
[16:58] <williammanda> I'm getting a different desktop....
[16:58] <williammanda> weird
[16:59] <williammanda> i have a panel with a star
[18:12] <williammanda> hey guys
[18:12] <williammanda> After an update....I have the Xfce desktop
[18:13] <williammanda> can anyone help me to get back to gnome?
[18:13] <troy_s> williammanda: What is your logon manager?
[18:15] <williammanda> I auto login....not sure
[18:18] <williammanda> anyone else?
[19:10] <Aval0n> anyone know where the deinterlacing options are in trunk?
[19:13] <rakker> setup -> tv -> playback ?
[19:13] <Aval0n> nope
[19:13] <Aval0n> used to be there
[19:13] <Aval0n> not anymore
[19:14] <rakker> o
[19:14] <rakker> then i dont know :)
[19:14] <Aval0n> hehe thnx anyway
[20:26] <beavis_> Aval0n, they're where you see something like CPU++
[20:27] <beavis_> Aval0n, for every resolution you can now provide different deinterlacers
[20:29] <CanadianMan> after installing mythbuntu i'm getting a error 22 after i reboot
[20:29] <CanadianMan> after it says loading grub. . . .
[21:26] <williammanda> hey gugs
[21:26] <williammanda> what do i need to install mythtv on 64 bit?
[21:27] <williammanda> mythtv control center does'n't work
[21:32] <tgm4883_laptop> williammanda, sec
[21:32] <tgm4883_laptop> this is on a desktop install?
[21:33] <williammanda> yes
[21:33] <tgm4883_laptop> williammanda, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590475
[21:33] <tgm4883_laptop> theres a small bug in MCC for 64-bit that is fixed here
[21:36] <williammanda> ty
[21:37] <tgm4883_laptop> np
[21:54] <MythbuntuGuest90> hello
[21:55] <MythbuntuGuest90> anybody around?
[22:18] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest90, ask your question
[22:23] <MythbuntuGuest90> whoops, started shopping around and didn't notice you responded
[22:24] <MythbuntuGuest90> anyway, I've got tiny fonts. DPI is 38x46. Don't know how to enlarge them
[22:24] <MythbuntuGuest90> tried using the mythbuntu settings, those that I could read
[22:24] <MythbuntuGuest90> tried editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and addint Option "DPI" "96x96"
[22:25] <MythbuntuGuest90> restarted the xserver and saw no change
[22:28] <JThundley> my fonts were too small too, I changed them all through the gui though
[22:29] <JThundley> mythtv fonts in mythtv's setup menus and application fonts in xfce control center dealie
[22:32] <MythbuntuGuest90> yeah, the setup menu didn't seem to work, although maybe I just couldn't see what I was changing
[22:32] <MythbuntuGuest90> xfce control center I couldn't see anything at all
[22:32] <MythbuntuGuest90> I'll try hooking up another monitor, maybe that will help
[22:32] <JThundley> it's in there, poke around
[22:32] <JThundley> definately hook up a monitor so you can read the text :)
[22:33] <JThundley> I'm running a 1024x768 resolution on a normal TV and I have everything readable
[22:40] <Aval0n> torg you around?
[23:25] <Lazarus> hi there, im trying to make a little diagram of what id need to setup a mythtv box
[23:25] <Lazarus> how exactly did some of you do it
[23:26] <Lazarus> did you need a coaxial/usb converter?
[23:26] <NeoFax> Lazarus: What hardware do u currently have?
[23:27] <Lazarus> well, i have a pinnacle coaxial/usb converter
[23:27] <Lazarus> and an old box
[23:27] <Lazarus> from year 2000 or so
[23:27] <Lazarus> like 400 mhz processor
[23:27] <Lazarus> 128 mb ram
[23:27] <NeoFax> Do u have a TV Card?  Also, what r u planning to do with it?
[23:28] <Lazarus> probably 16-32 mb video card
[23:28] <NeoFax> With those specs, I don't think Myth will work for u
[23:28] <Lazarus> NeoFax: just implement a cop out of tivo
[23:28] <NeoFax> Not a video card, but a TV card
[23:29] <NeoFax> OK, for Myth to work you will ned a TV card.  I recommend a Hauppauge PVR-500 as it has a mpeg decoder built on the board
[23:29] <Lazarus> NeoFax: what do you mean by tv card
[23:29] <NeoFax> U will also need at least a 800Mhz CPU, 1GB of RAM and 80GB of Hard Drive space
[23:30] <Lazarus> NeoFax: ah, i see
[23:30] <Lazarus> NeoFax: thats the bare minimum?
[23:30] <NeoFax> A TV Card is exactly that.  It turns a TV signal into 1's and 0s
[23:30] <NeoFax> No, but that is a fairly decent system for a PVR-500 system.  Unless you want to use it as dual purpose like I do
[23:31] <Lazarus> NeoFax: im very cheap, i wouldnt waste good hardware
[23:32] <Lazarus> i have a coaxial to usb
[23:32] <Lazarus> so i guess thats what youre referring to
[23:32] <NeoFax> That hardware you have is designed for hooking a camcorder to a computer and downloading the video from it.  With a 400Mhz system you will get choppy video as it will have to drop frames to keep up with the camcorder.
[23:33] <Lazarus> NeoFax: no, its not
[23:33] <Lazarus> its for watching cable tv on your computer
[23:33] <Lazarus> i got it from my dad
[23:33] <NeoFax> The best bet for that 400Mhz system would be to install IPCop on it and turn it into a firewall or install a server type linux system on it and turn it into a media server/file server
[23:33] <Lazarus> comes with a little remote
[23:33] <Lazarus> NeoFax: would Mythbuntu run?
[23:34] <NeoFax> Yes, just slow
[23:34] <NeoFax> only in the TV part
[23:34] <NeoFax> As that is where the CPU is being taxed
[23:34] <Lazarus> NeoFax: yeah
[23:35] <Lazarus> NeoFax: i could probably get away with using something even lighter than xfce like icewm or fluxbox
[23:36] <NeoFax> XFCE is fine and light enough.  However, if that Pinnacle does not have a built-in decoder/encoder the CPU will have to do this.  Go to Mythtv.org to see the min specs they recommend
[23:37] <Lazarus> NeoFax: alright