[00:03] <jdong> 19:00 < Sam1337> Somebody told me that Ubuntu means "can't install Debian" is  this true?
[00:03] <jdong> *giggle*
[00:03] <PriceChild> jdong, where's that?
[00:03] <jdong> #kubuntu
[00:05] <mneptok> jdong: that's a Mark Pilgrimism
[00:06] <jdong> mneptok: why am I not surprised :D
[00:07] <mneptok> http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/06/26/essentials-2006
[00:09] <mc44> mneptok: it's been around longer than that
[00:12]  * Seeker` has also heard it means "can't compile gentoo"
[00:13] <nalioth> and can't cook a pudding, either
[00:13] <PriceChild> how about just "can't"
[00:55] <PriceChild> *smiles at -offtopic's topic*
[00:56] <Madpilot> driveby ops ftw
[00:56] <PriceChild> :)
[01:26] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, desertc said: !nohelp is If you are having trouble getting your question answered here, then you might consider posting on the Ubuntu Forums, in the support section.  Also, check out your Ubuntu Local Community team mailing lists, so you can get support and help support your community
[01:27] <desertc> Isn't this snazzy.  The man behind the curtain.
[01:44] <Hobbsee> pleia2: ping
[03:35] <vorian> lol
[03:35] <vorian> porc
[04:07] <jdong> https://edge.launchpad.net/~gaylapdancer/
[04:07] <jdong> looks like gaylapdancer is on LP too
[04:07] <Tm_T> :-P
[04:07] <jdong> and asking for backports
[04:07] <Madpilot> ...
[04:08] <jdong> (wow those two together sound so.... *shudder*)
[04:08] <jdong> ok now I'm gonna have nightmares
[04:08] <Madpilot> jdong, sick puppy
[04:08] <Tm_T> umm, his wikipage doesn't exist :(
[04:09] <jdong> Tm_T: I know, I was deeply disappointed too
[04:09] <Madpilot> s/"deeply disappointed"/relieved
[04:09] <Jucato> lol
[04:09] <Tm_T> lol?
[04:10] <Jucato> er.. is lol banned here too?
[04:10] <Tm_T> not (yet)
[04:10] <Madpilot> merely discouraged
[04:10] <Jucato> ok...
[04:10] <Tm_T> also I wondered what would be "lol" in this
[04:10] <Jucato> nvm
[04:10] <Tm_T> maybe I'm just bit tired
[04:11]  * Jucato shrugs
[04:11] <Tm_T> "look, I have tires now!"
[04:12] <Madpilot> I have non-sobriety now
[05:33] <elkbuntu> jdong, i'm rather amused at what he wants backported ;)
[05:35] <Jucato> :)
[05:35] <Jucato> oh wait.. is a single ':)' also disallowed/discouraged?
[05:35] <elkbuntu> no?
[05:36] <Jucato> ok :)
[05:37] <stdin> it's just the 'lol's and 'zomg's that are horrible ;P
[05:37] <Jucato> so I've been told
[05:39] <elkbuntu> the odd one is forgivable, but in -offtopic when 10 people lol, it's a little ridiculous
[08:34] <persia> Do I need to make any special arrangements for a transcript of a session in #ubuntu-classroom?
[09:10] <popey> persia: i happen to be logging this place if that's any good to you
[09:10] <popey> persia: http://popey.com/~alan/%23ubuntu-classroom.log
[09:11] <persia> popey: Actually, since realise that my prep research was insufficient: the logs are on irclogs.ubuntu.com.  Thanks though.  I just thought I might need to poke a bot (but I don't).
[09:11] <persia> Err, "I since realise..."
[09:13] <popey> !nohelp
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nohelp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <elkbuntu> hmm.. cypherdelic is either high, borderline or both
[14:53] <cypherdelic> was I too sarcastic inside #ubuntu-offtopic, or why have I been banned? Excuse me please, I will stop that.
[14:54] <elkbuntu> cypherdelic, you were being offensive with all the nazi and fuhrer references
[14:54] <cypherdelic> elkbuntu: i live in germany, I own against those facist, I am left-side oriented, i just wa smaking fun
[14:55] <cypherdelic> elkbuntu: can you please remove the bann, i am going to stop with that
[14:56] <cypherdelic> please
[14:57] <cypherdelic> elkbuntu: may i receive a different treatment then being banned from offtopic?
[14:57] <elkbuntu> cypherdelic, i dont care where you are from. your ban will stay for at least a day
[14:59] <cypherdelic> elkbuntu: you are right, i will take the time to read the Wiki, can you please post the mentioned point at the topic of #ubuntu-offtopic to this channel, since i cannot enter anymore?
[15:00] <cypherdelic> elkbuntu: about rules about what is allowed to say and what is not?
[15:02] <elkbuntu> !o4o | cypherdelic
[15:02] <ubotu> cypherdelic: Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-ops. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[15:03] <ompaul> cypherdelic, rule one) you bring your common sense rule two) see rule one 
[15:03] <ompaul> !CoC
[15:03] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[15:03] <ompaul> !guideline
[15:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guideline - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:03] <ompaul> !guidelines
[15:03] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[15:03] <cypherdelic> i immanentisize that, that means no offense except software lecensing in offtopic
[15:04] <ompaul> have a read of those - it will give you something to do with your time
[15:04] <Gary> immanentisize - is that a word?
[15:05] <cypherdelic> i read fast ;)
[15:05] <Tm_T> mm
[15:05] <ompaul> there is no s or i
[15:05] <cypherdelic> Gary: i don't know ;) maybe a creation of a word :D
[15:06] <cypherdelic> immantize?
[15:06] <cypherdelic> immanentize
[15:06] <ompaul> More recently, it has been used by conservatives as pejorative against what they perceive as utopian schemes, such as socialism, communism, etc. It is also being used by libertarians to criticise George W. Bush and the neo-conservative movement [1]. In this context it means "trying to make that which belongs to the afterlife happen here and now (on Earth)" or "trying to create heaven here on Earth."
[15:06] <Tm_T> ompaul: hi
[15:07] <ompaul> Tm_T, I was looking for you - I had some questions ;)
[15:07] <ompaul> pm
[15:07] <cypherdelic> i mean "understand" with that word but you are quite conspirative
[15:07] <cypherdelic> funny
[15:07] <ompaul> na wikipedia is 
[15:07] <Tm_T> meh
[15:07] <ompaul> I just grabbed what I could
[15:07] <LjL> wikipedia is conspirative?!
[15:07] <elkbuntu> cypherdelic, i know ompaul well enough to know he wouldn have bothered to type it out like that
[15:08] <Gary> copy n paste ftw
[15:08] <cypherdelic> yes maybe, anybody could post his conspirative impressions into a wikipedia thread, this one looks like for me
[15:10] <cypherdelic> do you think it is wrong to make earth a better place, instead of reaching for new planets?
[15:11] <cypherdelic> do you believe in afterlife, i think, this is not conspirative but of a personal matter, and it belongs to offtopic, i beeter stfu
[15:11] <ompaul> do think you are trolling
[15:11] <ompaul> yes
[15:11] <elkbuntu> i think i made the right call
[15:11] <ompaul> concur
[15:13] <PriceChild> !forget sambabug
[15:13] <ubotu> I'll forget that, PriceChild
[15:14] <Jucato> fixed now?
[15:15] <Tm_T> yup
[15:17] <ompaul> cypherdelic, is there anything else we may help you with?
[15:26] <LjL> what's !sambabug?
[15:26] <PriceChild> !unforget sambabug
[15:26] <ubotu> I suddenly remember sambabug again, PriceChild
[15:26] <PriceChild> !sambabug
[15:26] <ubotu> A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[15:26] <PriceChild> !forget sambabug
[15:26] <ubotu> I'll forget that, PriceChild
[15:27] <LjL> cypherdelic, please leave this channel now and come back later, and we'll review your ban again
[15:27] <ompaul> later being +24 hours or so
[15:30] <crdlb> did you mean to leave LiquidHelium +q'd?
[15:31] <ompaul> not overly
[16:23] <ubotu> rambo3 called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[16:25] <cypherdelic> Ljl ok thanks for audience
[16:25] <TheSheep> cm
[16:25] <TheSheep> oops, soryr
[16:25] <cypherdelic> im sorry for idling
[18:04] <juano__> hello all
[18:04] <PriceChild> *waves*
[18:04] <PriceChild> Did you ever go in #ubuntu-effects?
[18:04] <juano__> has anyone considered a multi-room irc support for ubuntu ?
[18:04] <PriceChild> We have yes
[18:05] <juano__> hehe cool
[18:05] <PriceChild> Did you ever go in #ubuntu-effects?
[18:05] <juano__> nope
[18:05] <PriceChild> ok well that's going to be my backing for this discussion
[18:05] <Tm_T> multi-room irc support for ubuntu ?
[18:05] <juano__> im fowarded to compiz-fusion
[18:06] <PriceChild> basically, it was extremely easy so direct people with compiz problems to -effects... annoying them
[18:06] <PriceChild> However directing helpers there wasn't easy at all.
[18:06] <Tm_T> yes
[18:06] <PriceChild> and most people never got answers
[18:06] <juano__> i see
[18:06] <Tm_T> loco channels are enough I believe
[18:07] <PriceChild> juano__, I agree there's a problem with #ubuntu...
[18:08] <juano__> PriceChild: it would be cool to redirect #ubuntu to #ubuntu-01  , ubuntu-02 , etc or somethin like that when i single room is to crowded
[18:08] <juano__> and keep track of how many helpers per room or somethin
[18:09] <PriceChild> juano__, keep track of helpers?!
[18:09] <PriceChild> what happens if we decide there aren't enough?
[18:09] <PriceChild> helpers don't want to be in 5 channels at the same time... its just diluting things
[18:09] <PriceChild> and why on earth would they want to move channels upon request? :/
[18:10] <juano__> PriceChild: nope, theyll be in just one
[18:10] <juano__> PriceChild: that is if there were sufficient helpers
[18:11] <PriceChild> but if it turns out there's people asking questions in room 3, but no-one answering.... what happens?
[18:12] <juano__> PriceChild: yep, thats a problem.
[18:12] <juano__> PriceChild: or maybe list out on ubuntu the different ubuntu channel types
[18:12] <juano__> ubuntu-harddrives , ubuntu-effects , ubuntu-network , ubuntu-...
[18:13] <Tm_T> 2006 <+Tm_T> loco channels are enough I believe
[18:13] <Tm_T> splitting it more just wont work
[18:13] <PriceChild> juano__, same problem as effects
[18:13] <Tm_T> !irc
[18:13] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[18:14] <juano__> yea
[18:14] <Tm_T> we just have to get more people to be also in loco channels
[18:30] <nealmcb> Seems to me that the #ubuntu topic should now read in the past tense:  "Samba upgrade was broken with 403 errors, see: http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/163116
[18:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 163116 in samba "libsmbclient: upgrade fails with error 403" [Undecided,Fix released] 
[18:31] <Tm_T> nealmcb: agreed there
[18:33] <nealmcb> PriceChild: folks are still getting the errors as noted in that bug, so I think leaving the bug in the topic until all the mirrors are upgraded and perhaps even until folks get their updates done (once a day?) may help
[18:39] <gnomefreak> was it released to archives?
[18:40] <gnomefreak> if not than dont change it
[18:40] <gnomefreak> 13:40 -!- Topic for #ubuntu-devel: Archive: OPEN | samba security update is  broken and deliberately 403 
[18:40] <gnomefreak> it still says it in -devel
[18:41] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: fix was in main mirror already
[18:41] <Tm_T> so it's "outdated"
[18:41] <gnomefreak> ok
[18:41] <gnomefreak> people set fixreleased when its pushed to NEW
[18:41] <gnomefreak> some people *
[18:43] <gnomefreak> person who fixed it should have added LP: #bugnumber in changelog so its closed when released not pushed
[18:47] <nealmcb>  Seems to me that the #ubuntu and #ubuntu-devel  topics should now read in the past tense:  "Samba upgrade was broken with 403 errors, see: http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/163116
[18:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 163116 in samba "libsmbclient: upgrade fails with error 403" [Undecided,Fix released] 
[18:48] <nealmcb> since folks are still experiencing problems and asking about them
[18:48] <gnomefreak> nealmcb: the topic wont help in that
[18:48] <gnomefreak> noone reads them
[18:48] <nealmcb> gnomefreak: it is released and working for many
[18:48] <nealmcb> gnomefreak: not everyone does, but it is good to train them to do so
[18:48] <gnomefreak> nealmcb: just tell them to wait or use a diff mirror
[18:49] <ompaul> gnomefreak, my computer pulled down the update and did the upgrade
[18:49] <ompaul> today
[18:49] <ompaul> it did not do it yesterday ;-)
[18:49] <gnomefreak> nealmcb: feel free to try but we have always tried to train people
[18:49] <gnomefreak> i never said it wasnt fixed but adding it was fixed to topic isnt needed IMHO
[18:51] <nealmcb> anyway - thanks all!
[19:38] <ubotu> soundray called the ops in #ubuntu (cole^broderick spamming)
[19:39] <jdong> lol did I just see 3 ops on top of each other on that call?
[19:39] <LjL> guys, are you ready?
[19:39] <LjL> 3
[19:39] <gnomefreak> i was going to but i was too late
[19:39] <LjL> 2
[19:40] <LjL> 1
[19:40]  * gnomefreak always ready
[19:40] <LjL> die!
[19:40] <PriceChild> notjdong, liar
[19:40] <notjdong> lol my timing was off
[19:40] <LjL> ah wait you didn't dodge my kick, since chanserv hadn't opped me yet anyway
[19:40] <gnomefreak> lol
[19:41] <jdong> would've worked better if done as a trigger on mode +o
[19:43] <PriceChild> *reads back and realises what was just happenning*
[19:44] <gnomefreak> can someone on gutsy try something quick for me
[19:44]  * jdong laughs at reports that Hushmail sent PGP private keys to the NSA...
[19:44]  * gnomefreak not sure if its mkdir(whateversourceis) is borked or not
[19:44] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: um?
[19:45] <gnomefreak> builtin i think
[19:45] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: mkdir #fun
[19:45] <gnomefreak> mkdir #whatever you want
[19:45] <gnomefreak> mkdir fails to make it in hardy
[19:45] <PriceChild> jdong, hushmail?
[19:45] <Tm_T> just mkdir ?
[19:45] <jdong> PriceChild: hushmail is a PGP webmail service that prides on security
[19:46] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: yes make sure you start the dir name with a #
[19:46] <PriceChild> jdong, they create the pgp keys at their end etc. ?
[19:46] <PriceChild> jdong, and they gave them all away?
[19:46] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: mkdir \#foo
[19:46] <jdong> [jdong@jdong:/tmp]$ mkdir \#foo 
[19:46] <Tm_T> success
[19:46] <gnomefreak> oh you have tro use \
[19:46] <jdong> # will be inhaled by bash unless escaped.
[19:46] <gnomefreak> ah
[19:47] <jdong> PriceChild: right, they creat PGP keys on their end, store them, and use java applets to interface with you
[19:47]  * Tm_T slaps gnomefreak 
[19:47] <jdong> PriceChild: and now reports surface they gave *3 CD's worth* of keys to the feds just because they asked.
[19:47] <jdong> I'm pretty sure 3 CD's is pretty much their entire customer base
[19:48] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: i didnt think bash would choke on #
[19:48] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: come on, you didn't even try otherwise?
[19:48]  * Tm_T is disappointed
[19:48] <jdong> gnomefreak: I think # is used for some sort of matching/sub
[19:48] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: who would have thought you needed a \
[19:48] <PriceChild> jdong, what i'm reading says 12 cds
[19:49] <jdong> PriceChild: even worse
[19:49] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: me atleast, and jdong 
[19:49] <gnomefreak> jdong: that makes sense but i didnt see anything in ~/.bashrc on it
[19:50] <PriceChild> jdong, this seems to mainly be for users who don't use the java option?
[19:50] <jdong> gnomefreak: actually, bash treats # as a comment regardless where it is
[19:51] <jdong> gnomefreak: nope, only after a space
[19:51] <gnomefreak> ah damn
[19:51] <gnomefreak> thats right
[19:51] <jdong> if you put # after a space everything is ignored
[19:51] <jdong> if you do foo#bar, bash will take it literally
[19:52] <gnomefreak> jdong: yeah that works, im testing dolphin since it cant open file#bleh or any other file with # in it
[19:52] <gnomefreak> unless you right click and open with dolphin
[19:52] <jdong> gnomefreak: that's... not a good sign that it's not escaping properly
[19:52] <gnomefreak> nautilus has no issue with it
[19:52] <Tm_T> nor Konqueror
[19:53] <jdong> gnomefreak: does opening file;rm -rf / cause anything to happen?
[19:53] <gnomefreak> jdong: mhb is working on it
[19:53] <jdong> (don't test on valuable system)
[19:53] <jdong> gnomefreak: are there security implications of this?
[19:53]  * gnomefreak scared or rm -rf in any context
[19:53] <gnomefreak> jdong: not sure i was just in testing it
[19:54] <jdong> gnomefreak: try file;touch foo then
[19:54] <jdong> and see if foo exists
[19:54]  * jdong installs dolphin
[19:55] <gnomefreak> asking mhb about securoty implications atm
[19:55] <jdong> hmm seems fine so far
[19:56] <gnomefreak> jdong: try to open a file with # in dolphin
[19:56] <gnomefreak> with a # in name
[19:56] <jdong> gnomefreak: yeah playing with it now....
[19:56] <jdong> seems like everything after # is stripped
[19:56] <gnomefreak> yep
[19:58] <jdong> it is a "security problem" that clicking on foo#bar opens foo
[19:59] <jdong> if foo existed as a malicious file and the user is tricked into clicking foo#bar
[19:59] <jdong> but that's a stretch -- not a big deal IMO
[19:59] <gnomefreak> hes pushing it as security relkease
[20:00] <jdong> gnomefreak: found a related regression
[20:00] <jdong> gnomefreak: test#foo is expanded as the URL test%23foo
[20:01] <jdong> a la HTML
[20:01] <jdong> gnomefreak: however, if I create a directory test%23foo, it goes to test#foo
[20:01] <gnomefreak> yeah i saw
[20:01] <gnomefreak> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/138374 is the bug on it
[20:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 138374 in dolphin "dolphin breaks when you try to open a directory with a # sign in it. " [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[20:01] <gnomefreak> jdong: that is what fdoving just said in #kubuntu-devel ;)
[20:02] <jdong> lol
[20:34] <GrahamA> I was banned from #kubuntu like... months ago... when does that end?
[20:34] <PriceChild> GrahamA, one moment please
[20:34] <GrahamA> It's still you.
[20:34] <PriceChild> pardon?
[20:34] <GrahamA> In the other channel.
[20:35] <PriceChild> ah yes
[20:35] <PriceChild> freaky
[20:36] <PriceChild> Aha I remember this one.
[20:36] <GrahamA> I remember you.
[20:37] <PriceChild> again, freaky
[20:37] <PriceChild> GrahamA, Why do you want to go back into #kubuntu btw?
[20:37] <GrahamA> Because I like... use Kubuntu...
[20:37] <PriceChild> and you just wanna talk about that?
[20:37] <GrahamA> And I'd like help with 1 or 2 problems I have.
[20:37] <PriceChild> aha you want help...
[20:37] <Myrtti> someone might need tlc at -offtopic
[20:37] <GrahamA> It's not like I do nothing...
[20:38] <PriceChild> and you go to #kubuntu... because its a support channel?
[20:38] <PriceChild> Myrtti, hmm?
[20:38] <PriceChild> GrahamA, agreed?
[20:38] <GrahamA> Like... IRL some of my friends have #kubuntu I helped them get it set up.
[20:38] <GrahamA> PriceChild: I'm not going to spam crap if that's what you mean?
[20:38] <PriceChild> GrahamA, no no... i'm just getting to the reason for the original ban.
[20:39] <PriceChild> GrahamA, so we're agreed that you want help in #kubuntu, *because its a support channel* ?
[20:39] <GrahamA> Yes... :/
[20:39] <PriceChild> GrahamA, ok.... which would make a channel like #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic for what?
[20:40] <GrahamA> Quiz time!... answer... A OFF TOPIC DISCUSSION!
[20:40] <GrahamA> Do I win a cookie?
[20:40] <PriceChild> We have a winner! :D
[20:40] <PriceChild> *awards GrahamA 10 brownie points*
[20:40] <GrahamA> I like brownies.
[20:40] <LjL> and what is the word "fuck" and its colleages, with respect to the Ubuntu channels?
[20:40] <Pumpernickel> mmm, brownies
[20:41] <PriceChild> GrahamA, so... if you're trying to get some help in there... and there's a few people constantly chatting offtopic... stifling your conversation, meaning people don't see your pleas for help.... you wouldn't like that would you?
[20:41] <PriceChild> LjL, pardon?
[20:41] <GrahamA> No mister.
[20:41] <LjL> PriceChild: just noticing he's been !ohmyed and kicked because of that and other related words more than a couple of times.
[20:41] <PriceChild> GrahamA, so we are agreed you won't be persistently offtopic in #kubuntu again?
[20:42] <PriceChild> LjL, GrahamA?
[20:42] <PriceChild> (I only ran up the ban so far)
[20:42] <LjL> PriceChild: can't tell for sure, someone with the same ident at least, it's hard to follow
[20:42] <PriceChild> ok
[20:43] <GrahamA> I hereby swear that I shall not talk offtopic or use profanity on any channel with *buntu* in it's name
[20:43] <PriceChild> GrahamA, have you read the channel guidelines?
[20:43] <PriceChild> !guidelines
[20:43] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:43] <GrahamA> Yes.... yes I have...
[20:43] <PriceChild> sure?
[20:43] <GrahamA> Yes.
[20:44] <LjL> GrahamA: make very sure you follow them from now on.
[20:45] <PriceChild> GrahamA, you may rejoin #kubuntu.
[20:45] <GrahamA> I don't mean offense.
[20:45] <PriceChild> No problem.
[20:45] <GrahamA> I will avoid it in future.
[20:45] <GrahamA> Sorry to of bothered you.
[20:46] <PriceChild> GrahamA, out of interest, why did you go to #ubuntu-irc originally?
[20:47] <LjL> probably looked at the channel list on the wiki, it makes somewhat sense if you need to be unbanned from somewhere
[20:49] <PriceChild> LjL, I'll edit it to put -ops above -irc
[20:50] <LjL> PriceChild, it isn't? i thought i put -irc as the last in the teams list
[20:50] <PriceChild> LjL, -ops isn't listed there is it?
[20:50] <LjL> uhm probably not
[20:50] <PriceChild> :P
[20:51] <PriceChild> only at the very bottom wrt cloaks
[20:51]  * ompaul is wondering what #ubuntu-irc is there for
[20:51]  * ompaul goes on a trip
[20:51] <ompaul> ahh
[20:52] <Myrtti> just a question
[20:53] <ompaul> Myrtti, don't ask to ask 
[20:53] <Myrtti> I'd like to know where my patience, compassion and positivity has gone, has anyone seen it? about ye small . no one in -offtopic has seen it
[20:53] <ompaul> Myrtti, it was snooked away and put in a photo with the small furry ones look on one and smile ;-)
[20:53] <PriceChild> Myrtti, chocolate heals all
[20:54] <Myrtti> i feel so short-tempered these days
[20:54]  * ompaul disabuses PriceChild
[20:54] <PriceChild> ompaul? :O
[20:54] <Myrtti> I've left ALL my irc channels
[20:54] <Myrtti> me, who not so long ago had 25
[20:55] <ompaul> PriceChild, ehh chocolate is something that I can't eat 
[20:55] <PriceChild> ompaul, awww how mean :(
[20:55] <PriceChild> Myrtti, whatcha mean?
[20:55] <Myrtti> I dunno
[20:55] <PriceChild> I would go on about how everyone should be able to enjoy the wonder that is chocolate on demand but that'd be rubbing it in.
[20:55] <ompaul> Myrtti I took up reading novels when I felt so fed up
[20:56] <Myrtti> I just feel like either the whole world is filled with idiots
[20:56] <Myrtti> or rhen it's just me
[20:57] <PriceChild> :/
[20:57] <Myrtti> i'd like it to be just me
[20:58] <Myrtti> because one person being an idiot is far less discouraging than the whole population of the world
[20:59] <Myrtti> which results in me leaving all my irc channels so I don't snap at people
[21:00] <gnomefreak> Myrtti+> I just feel like either the whole world is filled  with idiots  <<< it is, more each day
[21:02] <PriceChild> Myrtti, you're thinking this in general, or on irc?
[21:02] <Myrtti> hmmmmm
[21:03] <Myrtti> good question
[21:03] <PriceChild> if you have to think about this at all...
[21:03] <PriceChild> i suggest you logoff
[21:03] <PriceChild> and go out with some friends
[21:03] <ompaul> after a warm cup of tea
[21:04] <nalioth> it's been a long time since i had a good cup of tea
[21:04] <Myrtti> I was planning amelie
[21:04] <Myrtti> I'm on babysitting duty
[21:04] <PriceChild> and try and find hat dream cuddly geek
[21:04] <Myrtti> with 11y runescapist
[21:04] <PriceChild> *that
[21:05] <Myrtti> cuddly geek :-P~~~~
[21:06] <PriceChild> :)
[21:09] <Myrtti> I actually have met someone who doesn't treat me like some sort of a pink invisible unicorn
[21:09] <Myrtti> but it remains to be seen where it goes
[21:10] <Myrtti> it's nice to be able to talk shop face to face without people looking down on you
[21:11] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[21:12] <PriceChild> talk shop?
[21:12] <Myrtti> linux, floss
[21:12] <PriceChild> aha
[21:14] <PriceChild> one day
[21:15] <Seeker`> my girlfriend doesn't get computers
[21:16] <TheSheep> Seeker`: seh has to buy them herself?
[21:16] <Seeker`> TheSheep: WEll, yes, but she doesn't understand them either
[21:17] <TheSheep> aah
[21:17] <TheSheep> Seeker`: you mean grok :P
[21:18]  * TheSheep <-- learned English in the bad part of the Internet ;)
[21:18] <Seeker`> isn't the bad part of the internet just "The Internet"?
[21:19] <TheSheep> Seeker`: www != Internet :P
[21:20] <Seeker`> I never said it was
[21:20] <TheSheep> Seeker`: some parts are worse than others
[21:20] <Seeker`> but that doesn't mean that any of it is good :P
[21:21] <TheSheep> Seeker`: I never said it was
[23:16] <OldPink> Any news on my offtopic ban?
[23:17]  * SudoKing never hears of anything...
[23:18]  * OldPink doesn't either, unfortunately 
[23:23] <Seveas> OldPink, every time you ask it'll be extenden...
[23:23] <Seveas> SudoKing, and your ban will last a long time afaik, so there's no real use for you being in here
[23:26] <SudoKing> huh, banned from what?
[23:32] <Seveas> hmm, I thought sudoking was banned from #ubuntu, but apparently not