[00:02] and another update today :) it's patch week :D [00:05] i cant get updates for samba [00:59] hmm haven't used speakers on this computer in decades and nothing is coming out any ideas how to fix? [01:01] hi [01:01] Have you tried turning up the volume on the application, in the mixer, and on the speaker? [01:01] gerro, ^^ - are they plugged in? [01:01] yep its plugged in tried every hole and didn't work so I plugged it back into color coded grey spot [01:02] power light is on speakers and volume turned to max on everything [01:02] I thought it was green [01:02] eh its faded but I'm sure the colors match [01:02] kind of dim in here too [01:02] anyone know any oss business planner app? [01:02] Did you turn up the mixer? [01:02] umarzuki: homebank [01:02] i'll try that [01:03] thx [01:03] sommerville32: I've tried that pcm, master ,master mono, pc speaker all max [01:03] gerro, What application? [01:03] All apps? [01:03] sommerville32: could pc speaker be muted on alsamixer? [01:03] yeah all apps [01:03] it shows the bar on alsamixer for all them [01:04] Creative Labs [SB Live! Value] EMU10k1X is my sound card [01:05] gerro: what i'm looking for is an alternative for Business Plan Pro [01:05] can't afford $99 [01:06] that's kinda the main reason i'm using linux anyway :) [01:07] :) [01:07] umarzuki, Have you searched the repository? :] [01:07] yep [01:07] type 'business planner' [01:08] nothing came out [01:08] Where do you type that? [01:08] i'm planning to make a business plan to apply for loan [01:09] add remove apps [01:10] Kugar for KDE [01:11] bulmages [01:16] kugar seemed won't work n i can't find bulmages in repo [01:16] You might have to enable KDE services [01:17] how's that? [01:19] It isn't a good idea to run KDE apps in Xfce anyhow. [01:20] hm.. [01:20] guess i'll have to install kde [01:20] :S [01:20] thx [01:20] Try searching the web for an alternative first. [01:20] KDE is heavy [01:20] Anyhow, I need to go shower [01:20] ttyl [01:22] synaptic............... [01:23] somervill! [01:23] somerville: my friend is about to go to my place in 20 mins [01:29] hello: is there a wireless network monitor widget for xfce? [01:32] does anyone know anything about compiz? [01:35] how can i change the sound card priorities? [01:38] is truecrypt available from a repository? [01:47] how else can I find the local IP address besides using the command ifconfig? [01:47] Super_BQ: whats wrong with ifconfig? [01:47] the command `ip a` [01:48] ok it's working [01:48] how can i change the sound card priorities?..........nobody? [01:49] cp2: asoundconf [01:49] cp2: namely, the set-default-card option, which requires a parameter. [01:50] a ha [01:51] im trying [01:51] but...what's the parameter? [01:54] found it [01:54] thnx a lot! [02:23] Anybody know of a packer/unpacker with GUI that can unpack multiple files (not belonging to the same archive)?Like Winrar in windows. [02:25] Gnome mouse tracking sucks, is there a way I can transfer my xfce settings to gnome as well? [02:29] somerville32: wake up :) [03:49] yo [03:49] my limewire will not work when i downlaod it? i mean i download it it is fine.. then i launch it and when i do it appears black white page that never loads [03:50] big whit page* [03:50] any ideas? or should i jsut get a new p2p server? if so which one? [03:52] no1 has an idea? [03:53] I seem to be getting aa 403 forbidden error when trying to access the samba updates, I browsed the security site and I can see the packages there. [03:53] through the updater applet. [03:54] 0.os... well im a linux newb [03:54] snerfu: see the topic in #ubuntu [03:54] thanks. [03:58] 0.o [04:06] if i simply run xfce with gdm rather then gnome will i get better performance [04:23] Any news on a patch for that thrashing issue? [04:24] Anybody awake out there? [05:27] somverville! [05:27] you there? [05:29] my Ubuntu box is back online but I noticed Firestarter got nuked and no PostFix [10:41] Anyone have any idea about why my xubuntu hang with the wpa security enabled? Could it be the nic? What could i do? Other than use wep... [10:44] Hi, I can't see anything about it online, but either xfce4 or firefox is pissing me off, every time I open a link firefox is moving to the active desktop :/ Anyone else having the same problem / know of a fix? [10:51] moodog: yes, let me find you a link [10:51] TheSheep: Thanks, it would appear my google-fu is weak :( [10:51] moodog: http://sheep.art.pl/2007-09-08_Firefox_jumping_between_workspaces_in_XFCE [10:52] moodog: it's not google-able [10:52] moodog: it's in the xfce docs on your computer [10:53] Ah, of course. [10:53] Thanks :D [10:55] i lost my menu on xubuntu... [10:55] anyone know how to get it back? :) [10:56] sugardrunk: alt+f2 and type xfce4-panel [10:56] TheSheep, Panel is there...only menu is gone [10:56] sugardrunk: dapper? [10:57] TheSheep, Gutsy [10:57] sugardrunk: it just disappeared like that? [10:58] TheSheep, Not really, after i changed back from FVWM-Crystal [10:59] sugardrunk: the menu is empty? [11:00] TheSheep, it is not there anymore [11:00] in where? [11:00] TheSheep, in the panel [11:00] then add it [11:00] TheSheep, Dont know how [11:00] right click on the panel, select 'add new item', scroll down and select 'xfce menu' [11:01] Anyone have any idea about why my xubuntu hang with the wpa security enabled? Could it be the nic? What could i do? Other than use wep... Especially when rebooting or shutting down it hangs. "Stopping wpa_supplicant interfaces ..." [11:01] TheSheep, ok... i guess the panel is messed up because i could not find that... but, i have to check, again [11:12] hi, i just played around File Manager and now my User folder disappeared from the desktop. How come? How can i fix it? [11:15] kwhk: right click anywhere on the desktop - choose create launcher then browse to your folder and select [11:15] kwhk: desktop settings -> behavior -> show iocns for -> home [11:19] TheSheep: i tried. but now on the desktop there are: Trash, Home, File System, plus a folder for my wife. my folder as the user is missing. [11:21] kwhk: the Home folder is yours... [11:22] TheSheep: but previously, on the desktop, there's a folder at the top showing my name. the folder was in blue color. [11:23] TheSheep: it wasn't a short cut. [11:23] kwhk: you can try to go to home/Desktop and see if it's there [11:23] kwhk: if not, check trash or other folders, maybe you mved it somewhere [11:23] TheSheep: yes, it is there. [11:23] kwhk: ok, check permissions [11:25] they look normal. [11:26] TheSheep: in your case, on the desktop, there is a folder in your name, in blue color, right? [11:26] kwhk: no [11:27] kwhk: but I don't have standard settings since dapper [11:27] kwhk: unless you mean the home folder [11:29] I have that icon for my home folder on the desktop - what did you do when "playing around File Manager"? [11:29] TheSheep: ok, thanks, though i dont mean the holder folder. [11:30] ere4si: i also got the "Home" folder on my desktop. what i'm trying to say is there was another folder, say "KWHK", on my desktop. [11:31] and where is that folder - /home? [11:31] ere4si: on the desktop [11:32] I'm a long way away here :) - is it a folder you put there? [11:33] how did you remove it - what did you do? [11:34] ere4si: no. you don't have such a folder on your desktop as well? TheSheep said no. maybe i remember it wrongly and there haven't been such a folder on my desktop? [11:35] forget it, folks, and thanks. i got a question on the shutdown process. [11:35] kwhk: each user will have their /home folder showing on the desktop - don't know which folder you are talking about :) [11:38] after i click shutdown, i will see the "xubuntu" page, with the progress bar. the bar runs a little bit at the right end. after it finished, it stuck there and won't go away. i have to push the power button of my laptop to effectively shut the box down. is it normal? [11:39] kwhk: no, apparently xubuntu can't access the acpi functions to shut down the laptop [11:39] kwhk: is it an old laptop? [11:40] TheSheep: yes, it is. PII, 300Mhz. [11:40] TheSheep: Thinkpad, 600E. [11:40] kwhk: check the top of 'dmesg | less' [11:41] TheSheep: sorry, i'm too new to understand. how to? [11:41] kwhk: open a terminal and type 'dmesg | less', without the quotes [11:42] kwhk: does it say something about acpi and a cutoff? [11:45] TheSheep: http://www.pastebin.ca/778183 [11:46] kwhk: lower? [11:47] TheSheep: sorry, seems i haven't pasted the whole stuff. [11:47] kwhk: just search for a message about the bios being too old and disabling acpi support [11:48] TheSheep: how about this: IBM Thinkpad 600 Series 2645 detected: force use of acpi=noirq [11:50] no, I think this is ok [11:50] ok, so it's not what I thought [11:50] kwhk: you might want to check the thinkwiki or the ubuntu forums [11:50] most older laptops benefit from additions to a line in /boot/grub/menu.lst - scroll down to where it says "end default options" and at the line that starts "kernel" and ends with "quiet splash" type a space then noapic nolapic [11:51] ere4si: that's no a benefit [11:51] excuse me? [11:52] ere4si: do you know what these options do? [11:52] TheSheep: i remember the statement u quoted. i saw it when booting the machine, be4 i changed to this new network card (wired). [11:53] enable older laptops to boot and shut down properly when the standard options aren't working - read the forums [11:53] TheSheep: i mean, when i used another wired network card previously, i saw that statement, but now i no longer see it at boot. [11:53] kwhk: you might try adding 'acpi=force' to the boot options and see if it helps [11:54] read the forums about older laptops [11:54] ere4si: no, it disables advanced irq support, leaving oly the basic one and impairing performance -- it's a workaround for laptops that have broken apic [11:55] ere4si: it's a workaround, and you should use it when you have trouble with apic, not just like that, otherwise it would be enabled by default [11:55] !boot | kwhk [11:55] kwhk: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto [11:56] TheSheep: The first time I saw that option was from an article from klaus knopper [11:56] TheSheep: am using acpi=off [11:56] kwhk: look at the bottom of that page, at the 'permanent changes' section [11:57] kwhk: ah, if you have scpi=off then acpi won't work, obviously, so ubuntu can't powerdown your laptop [11:58] ere4si: it's needed for some computers, because apic/lapic won't work on them, better to use simple pic than to not have anything at all, right? [11:58] ere4si: but disabling it just because "you've heard that it's sometimes adviced' is a bad idea [11:58] TheSheep: so, should i use acpi=force? [11:58] kwhk: so, it didn't boot with acpi enabled? [11:59] kwhk: or were there some trouble at boot so that you put it? [11:59] was started as the thing most laptops neede to run 01/07 [11:59] *stated [11:59] TheSheep: it worked. maybe changed to "off" at some point when dealing with the sound problem [11:59] ere4si: kwhk will end up enabling it anyways probably :) [12:00] kwhk: then just remove that [12:00] kwhk: don't add force, just remove the acpi=off [12:00] lol [12:01] kwhk: if the sound problem reappears, try what ere4si said :) [12:02] folks, thanks, will try it, after having dinner now:) [13:04] the automount-feature of me pretty new xubuntu-installation is broken [13:04] where can i start debugging? which part of the system mounts usbdisks? [13:05] it used to be pmount if i'm right, however it's not installed [13:30] hi, TheSheep, ere4si: tried. i changed it to acpi=force. the shutdown works now. it beeps a few seconds after i click "shutdown", then i see a black screen for a short while, then the "ubuntu" page, then the bar progresses a bit on the right and finishes, then the page goes out. thanks you both. [13:31] best of luck :) [13:31] yup. [13:31] but i feel that it takes a bit longer than be4 when booting up the machine into the desktop. [13:33] is this any to do with the change? [13:41] good morning [13:41] !hi [13:41] Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [13:41] new to linux and have some quiestions [13:42] downloaded xubuntu and burn the disk but have no sound in the live cd [13:42] this means no sound in the installer [13:42] ???? [13:43] !sound [13:43] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [13:44] some hardware needs some effort to get working - what's the sound card? [13:45] i really dont know [13:45] think is maestro or something like that [13:45] on the top of the desktop has no volume selector ... [13:47] i was using the live cd ... my fear is that if i install will have no sound also [13:48] ess maestro [13:49] in the menu you will find an entry for terminal - click that and when it opens type lsmod | grep snd that will show what sound card driver was found - | is the key above enter when you press shift [13:51] thanks will try that i will load the live cd again wish me luck [13:51] lol [14:27] hello again [14:28] using live cd now... have no sound [14:32] what did lsmod | grep snd say? === maristo is now known as blankpugulo [14:43] Anyone have any idea about why my xubuntu hang with the wpa security enabled? Could it be the nic? What could i do? Other than use wep... Especially when rebooting or shutting down it hangs. "Stopping wpa_supplicant interfaces ..." [14:45] the ismode didnt work [14:46] command not found [14:52] You typo'd the command. [15:00] Hello :) [15:01] I'm trying to install xubuntu on an old Pentium MMX 200Mhz with 128Mo of RAM. [15:01] For office purpose? [15:02] But the boot install option seems to loop. Just after the selection it's written "No DMI bios year, acpi=force is required to enable ACPI" [15:02] ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wait the screens appears after ages :) [15:02] Maybe I will be able to install xubuntu. [15:02] blankpugulo yes Office purpose [15:03] Internet, chat, wordprocessing, etc. [15:03] OpenOffice? I doubt it will work on 200Mhz [15:03] we will see. [15:03] In God we trust ^^ [15:05] Downgrade forever:) [15:05] I like old hardware [15:07] On Win 98, all were ok. But I hated to see my girlfriend on this unprotected OS so I would like to try xubuntu. But Ms office was running on it, emule, msn, internet explorer, firefox, mirc, etc. [15:07] What version of Xfce is in Xubuntu 7.10? [15:07] Xubuntu uses more ressources than win 98 ? [15:08] 128MB of RAM is sufficient quantity of memory, i think... for xubuntu [15:08] I tried win2k. It was ok until I install SP4 and all the upgrades :s [15:09] after that: very slow [15:09] don't use SP's :)... are they necessary? [15:10] for all the upgrades yes. And I prefere to install all fixes even if they come from MS ;) [15:11] Some MS fixes is more dangerous than viruses, I heard. [15:12] how to install this xubuntu damn.... I clicked on the Install Icon [15:12] and now all is so slow... [15:13] mouse moves and I'm wondering if the install process will start. [15:13] I think it's slow because Live CD eats a lot of RAM... After installation system will work quickly :) [15:14] even after 11 minutes ? [15:14] nothing seems to start the install process after the double click on the Install Icon. [15:16] does it come from this message before the loading of the kernel:"No DMI bios year, acpi=force is required to enable ACPI" ? [15:16] After activation of shadows my systems begin work slowly... Can I fix it by instaling of nVidia-drivers? [15:17] You need the alternate install cd if you're installing on a system with 128MB of RAM. === blankpugulo is now known as maristo [15:19] ahhh [15:19] I try to see on the xubuntu webpage ty Pumpernickel [15:21] PC (Intel x86) alternate install CD [15:21] For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if you are at all unsure. [15:21] this one ? [15:22] Yup. [15:22] ty Pumpernickel :) [15:23] is it a problem the "No DMI bios year, acpi=force is required to enable ACPI" message ? [15:24] No, it's just that you need at least 192MB of RAM for the live system and the installer to run at the same time. [15:24] That message is a separate issue. [15:25] Can I use non-grafical installer to install Xubuntu?... hm... text-mode [15:26] maristo: That's how the alternate install cd works. [15:26] clear [15:27] It's only difference of altarenate CD ? [15:28] Yeah. The installed system will be identical. [15:28] nice :) [15:29] it's good [15:29] I clicked too fast yesterday. Should take that version [15:44] hi [15:44] can anyone tell me the default install size of xubuntu? === maristo is now known as blankpugulo === blankpugulo is now known as DoG === DoG is now known as blankpugulo === blankpugulo is now known as maristo [16:18] relapse: ~1.5GB, not including swap. [16:32] thanks Pumpernickel === bftd is now known as The-Kernel [17:51] whois random [17:51] lol [17:51] well done. well done [17:52] not even the right nick [19:17] Hello! [19:17] Hi maristo [19:18] What pakage I must to add, to use video? (mpg, wmv)... My old pakages don't work. I use Xubuntu 7.04 [19:18] (excuse me for grammar) [19:19] maristo, for use with Gxine? [19:19] yes [19:20] I can't to find w32codecs pakage... [19:20] maristo, I *think* you can use libxine-ffmpeg [19:20] sudo apt-get install w32codecs don't work [19:20] Ehm, make that libxine1-ffmpeg [19:20] thank you, I'll try... [19:26] vinze: Thank you! It works! [19:26] :) [19:26] maristo, cool :) [19:35] I also have prblems with Xfburn, I can't ti write CD's and erase CDRW's :(... But in Ubuntu I can. [19:35] maristo, in Ubuntu using Xfburn? [19:35] no [19:35] maristo, ah, Xfburn is very buggy, that's why it was replaced with Brasero in 7.10 [19:36] I've alredy use Brasero, but... same problem [19:36] maristo, and which application do you use in Ubuntu? Gnomebaker? [19:37] Probably, Standard application... [19:37] maristo, perhaps you could try using the same application in Xubuntu? [19:38] scsidev: '/dev/sr0' [19:38] devname: '/dev/sr0' [19:38] scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 [19:38] Error trying to open /dev/sr0 exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. [19:44] oh, I have dismount CD and recording become possible... [22:11] hello! can anyone help me with my wifi [22:14] !anyone [22:14] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [22:16] anyone have any advice getting the wavebuddy pcmcia card working? [22:24] Hi folks. [22:25] hi [22:28] I have a question about firefox and focus stealing, more precise workspace changing. The idea is, I had firefox not changing workspace, some monthes ago, whenever I clicked in a link within a mail. Now whenever I click a link in a mail in workspace 2, firefox leaves workspace1 and moves to workspace 2 to open the link requested. Is that the normal behaviour now? [22:30] maximilian1st: http://sheep.art.pl/2007-09-08_Firefox_jumping_between_workspaces_in_XFCE [22:33] TheSheep, , TheKing :-) [22:34] maximilian1st: Elvis? [22:34] I'm bad because I'm helping out the Xfce team for the translations supervision. [22:34] No, Elvis is dead, you should know by now. [22:34] ;-p [22:34] Elvis=Maxamillion? [22:35] Is Xfce translated to Esperanto? [22:35] There are some parts translated yes. [22:36] if you wanna have XFCE in Esperanto, why don't you help translate it? [22:36] But if you think you could lend a hand and review what remains to be done, feel free to join the i18n.xfce.org mailing list. [22:36] I'll look :) [22:47] Network browsing in xubuntu: fusesmb or smbnetfs? Who uses one of these? I am using pyneighborhood sst the moment. [23:25] any experiences positive or negative with laptops with intel gma 950? [23:47] Hi :)