[00:08] <yuriy> nixternal: you gotta use the button tha appears on the top left when you hover
[00:19] <nixternal> ahh, that is kind of annoying
[00:40] <poetaa> Hola alguien habla castellano?
[01:43] <CPrgmSwR2> nixternal: any status on getting kde4-beta4 working?
[02:02] <nixternal> CPrgmSwR2: what do you mean?
[02:03] <CPrgmSwR2> as in getting kde4 to compile
[02:03] <CPrgmSwR2> and how will you know when the system is fixed to allow kde4 to compile
[02:03] <nixternal> I won't know...I am guessing they will let Riddell know
[02:08] <Tonio_> jdong: got a fix for the issue ?
[02:08] <Tonio_> jdong: feel free to ping me if you fix this one
[02:09] <Tonio_> jdong: otherwise I'll rty to fix it myseld...
[02:16] <jdong> Tonio_: bug #163426 ready to sponsor :)
[02:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 163426 in ktorrent "KTorrent 2.2.3 crasher" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163426
[03:55] <nixternal_> booyahkah
[04:10] <jdong> Tonio_: hey, did you get my last message about the LP# for the KT fix?
[06:02] <TiMiDo> anyone in here?
[06:08] <Hobbsee> no
[09:50] <mhb> morning
[10:21] <fifoo> all, I've got trouble building kdelibs because of soprano. I've built it and installed it from svn (kdesupport) but cmake is still trying to access the /usr/include/soprano where I would like it to point to my local copy (in the kdedev user's dir). I feel like I should modify FindSoprano.cmake but not too sure what. Any idea?
[10:21] <Tm_T> fifoo: #kde4-devel ?
[10:24] <fifoo> Ta. Will try there
[11:30] <_StefanS_> brightness up/down works with latest nvidia beta drivers from kde-power-manager and through /proc/acpi/video
[11:31] <mhb> it still doesn't work here, though
[11:32] <_StefanS_> mhb: which method?
[11:33] <_StefanS_> mhb: echo 30 | sudo tee /proc/acpi/video/VID1/LCD0/brightness works here, as well as the kde-power-manager sliders.
[11:33] <_StefanS_> mhb: I havent tried on batteries
[11:34] <mhb> well I mean the brightness up/down keys
[11:34] <mhb> otherwise it works via g-p-m
[11:34] <_StefanS_> mhb: yep, same here then.
[11:34] <_StefanS_> mhb: I was just wonder how the triggering of the brightness works.. is it kmilo?
[11:36] <_StefanS_> mhb: I mean what is triggered from acpi_fakekey .. ?
[11:36] <mhb> yes, it is kmilo... Lure was playing with it, I don't know much about it, and debugging it is also nigh to impossible
[11:37] <mhb> because it somehow integrates into kded, cannot be launched standalone, and cannot be forced on the foreground, always detaches
[11:37] <_StefanS_> uhm great..
[11:40] <_StefanS_> Lure: you there?
[12:12] <jpatrick> apachelogger: ping
[12:12] <apachelogger> jpatrick: pong
[12:12] <jpatrick> apachelogger: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~jpatrick/inject.rb
[12:17] <apachelogger> jpatrick: what are you trying to do?
[12:17] <jpatrick> apachelogger: I was bored, and needed something to do :)
[12:18] <apachelogger> jpatrick: I don't get the functionallity :P
[12:32] <mhb> jpatrick: help me fix Dolphin then :o)
[12:32] <mhb> err, D3lphin
[12:33] <jpatrick> mhb: I'll more likely break it more
[12:33] <Lure> _StefanS_: hi
[12:34] <mhb> jpatrick: hehe :o) it has got plenty of untriaged bugs, too
[12:34] <_StefanS_> Lure: hep.. I was wondering how those brightness up/down are triggered.. wasn't it through kmilo ? Thing is that nvidia drivers work now with hal and /proc/acpi
[12:34] <_StefanS_> Lure: atleast on my quadro fx 570m
[12:35] <Lure> _StefanS_: kernel maps key to keycode, then we map keycode to xkeysym and kmilo generic set KGlobalAccel for xkeysym
[12:35] <_StefanS_> ah yes
[12:35] <Lure> _StefanS_: the problem is that what works for other keys it does not for brightness :-(
[12:36] <_StefanS_> remember that whole thing now..
[12:36] <_StefanS_> neverming then
[12:36] <Lure> _StefanS_: we did not come far as it is not clear where the problem is: xev reports proper xkeysym, dcop to powermanager works too (for battery key for example), so it is something with KGlobalAccel
[12:37] <_StefanS_> ok, I wont have time to look at it anyways, just couldn't remember how it worked
[12:39] <Lure> _StefanS_: test packages for kdebase/kdeutils are in my ppa, but they do not work
[12:40] <Lure> _StefanS_: debdiff is here: http://muse.19inch.net/~lure/gutsy/kdebase.debdiff
[12:40] <_StefanS_> Lure: lets just leave it for now, maybe we find out something in the future..
[12:40] <Lure> _StefanS_: http://muse.19inch.net/~lure/gutsy/kdeutils.debdiff
[12:40] <_StefanS_> Lure: volume up/down still doesn't work either
[12:41] <_StefanS_> Lure: worked on my t60p , but not t61p.
[12:41] <_StefanS_> wierd..
[12:45] <Tonio_> jdong: no I didn't get that one
[12:45] <Tonio_> jdong: can you email it to me ?
[12:45] <Tonio_> jdong: ah ! gotcha
[12:46] <Tonio_> jdong: I'll upload today
[12:49] <_StefanS_> hey Tonio_
[13:24] <Tonio__> _StefanS_: hi ;)
[13:33] <nixternal> mornin' from the wonderful city of chicago, where politics and wind go together! :)
[13:47] <mhb> hi Tonio__
[13:47] <mhb> you've got another security issue with kdesudo
[14:22] <Tonio__> mhb: which one ?
[14:23] <mhb> bug 163417
[14:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 163417 in kdesudo "kdesudo+dolphin leads to command execution vulnerability" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163417
[14:32] <Tonio__> mhb: , hum true that, I'l fix that one
[14:40] <ryanakca> mhb: how goes the new icon?
[14:41] <begert> hey folks, i wrote bug 163457 last night and was wondering if I could get some help triaging it?
[14:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 163457 in kdebase "Mouseover effects leave junk on Desktop." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163457
[14:45] <mhb> ryanakca: http://mhb.ath.cx/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/updater-icon1.png
[14:49] <mhb> ryanakca: I'm no good as an artist, and I have been influenced by yestreday's discussion with the folks here, so I'm back at coding
[14:49] <mhb> bug triage, to be exact
[15:12] <ryanakca> mhb: ah :)
[15:13]  * mhb wonders if ryanakca read yesterday's talk
[15:13]  * ryanakca wishes one could learn C++ in a day...
[15:13] <ryanakca> nope
[15:14] <mhb> ryanakca: if you know OOP and C, it's possible
[15:14] <ryanakca> mhb: I know OOP and python :)
[15:29] <apachelogger> jpatrick: to get a package from debian in, ASAP, I have to file a sync request, right?
[15:36] <ryanakca> jpatrick: Hey... know if there's a french translation of the leaflet or if I should start translating?
[15:36] <jpatrick> ryanakca: I could send you the svg
[15:37] <jpatrick> apachelogger: "requestsync --help" :)
[15:38]  * apachelogger presses the enter key :D
[15:38] <jpatrick> ..if you have ubuntu-dev-tools installed
[15:38] <ryanakca> jpatrick: please...
[15:38] <apachelogger> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/82028
[15:38] <apachelogger> so not good
[15:38] <ryanakca> <-@kubuntu.org
[15:39]  * ryanakca wonders if there's a way of importing SVGs into rosetta for translation
[15:41] <jpatrick> ryanakca: sent
[15:41] <jpatrick> ryanakca: you will need the ttf-ubuntu-title in hardy for accents
[15:42] <jpatrick> apachelogger: weird..
[15:42] <apachelogger> requestsync -n -s libprojectm hardy
[15:42] <jpatrick> you missed the version at the end
[15:44] <apachelogger> jpatrick: [basever] - the square brackets make it appear optional to me
[15:45] <jpatrick> well I'm stuffed
[15:45]  * apachelogger starts crying
[15:46] <jpatrick> I think since it's NEW in Debian it will do it automagically..
[15:48] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[15:48]  * apachelogger starts hoping
[15:50] <ryanakca> jpatrick: in hardy... where...?
[15:50] <jpatrick> universe
[15:50] <ryanakca> apachelogger: no need to request syncs untill way down the road... like... January-ish...
[15:50] <ryanakca> !schedule
[15:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[15:51] <apachelogger> ryanakca: ok
[15:52] <jpatrick> ryanakca: hmm, I requested one yesterday for k3b-i18n
[15:52] <jpatrick> time for tea
[15:53] <ryanakca> apachelogger, jpatrick: don't need to untill December 13th, iirc. Until then, it's automatic
[16:05] <fifoo> hey guys, anything I could help with? Just compiled all the libs. Ready to go :)!
[16:06] <apachelogger> jpatrick: what's the problem with ksquirrel?
[16:06] <jpatrick> apachelogger: you got it to package?
[16:06] <apachelogger> nah, I'm at it right now
[16:06] <apachelogger> -libs is running through pbuilder
[16:07] <jpatrick> well it was some time ago, but the header files had some problems
[16:07] <begert__> hey fifoo
[16:08] <apachelogger> jpatrick: well, crappy buildsystem
[16:08] <apachelogger> would need a COPYING.LIBS anyway
[16:08] <apachelogger> for the admin dir
[16:09] <fifoo> hey begert__
[16:09] <ryanakca> fifoo: ummm... you could attempt merges? or have fun bug triaging...
[16:10] <begert__> could help me triage my bug :P
[16:11] <ryanakca> begert__: seriously? Sure... Have you read the documentation / bug triage HOWTO?
[16:12] <begert__> i think i has
[16:12] <begert__> Bug #163457
[16:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 163457 in kdebase "Mouseover effects leave junk on Desktop." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163457
[16:12] <fifoo> bug triaging? does taht involve fixing the bug eventually :)? I'm up for a bit of coding
[16:12] <ryanakca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
[16:12] <ryanakca> fifoo: only if you want to fix it... otherwise you just get all the information required out of the reporter so that someone else can fix it...
[16:13] <apachelogger> jpatrick: somehow I think that app is not worth the work -.-
[16:13] <ryanakca> apachelogger: ksquirrel... isn't that some image app?
[16:13] <apachelogger> KSquirrel is an image viewer for KDE with disk navigator, file tree, multiple directory view, thumbnails, extended thumbnails, dynamic format support, DCOP interface, KEXIF and KIPI plugins support.
[16:13] <jpatrick> apachelogger: I told ya :)
[16:14] <ryanakca> apachelogger: hehe... I had attempted packaging it a while back...e
[16:14] <apachelogger> jpatrick: well, not from the trouble point of view, but from the I have to create a god damn lib package point of view :P
[16:14] <ryanakca> want what I had so far? iirc, someone also filed a ITP for it a year or so ago
[16:14] <apachelogger> ryanakca: yeah, please apachelogger@ubuntu.com
[16:17] <ryanakca> apachelogger: hmm... looks like all I have is the libs half
[16:17] <ryanakca> apachelogger: hmm... mind if I just dput it to REVU?
[16:17] <apachelogger> ryanakca: no
[16:17] <ryanakca> (and then you can dget it)
[16:17]  * apachelogger loves dget :D
[16:18]  * ryanakca too :D
[16:18] <ryanakca> uploaded
[16:19] <ryanakca> should show up on the main page within the next 5 minutes...
[16:23] <apachelogger> ryanakca: thanks
[16:23] <ryanakca> jpatrick: did  you do a direct tranlation,  or did you update it a bit for Hardy/etc?
[16:25] <jpatrick> ryanakca: updated and changes a few things (eg. Linux => GNU/Linux
[16:27]  * ryanakca nods :)
[16:28] <jpatrick> and the links to de and es were wrong
[16:30]  * jpatrick should file a bug about it
[16:37] <ryanakca> jpatrick: mind creating a branch under kubuntu-members for the leaflets/other promo material?
[16:37] <jpatrick> I don't see why not :)
[16:38] <ryanakca> poke me when it's created, and I'll commit to it when I'm done :)
[16:46] <emonkey> good evening, I've tryed to compiel KDE 4 but when I try to compile kdelibs it says that soprano is too low. But I've soprano 1.97 :
[16:46] <emonkey> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/82372
[16:47] <jpatrick> emonkey: it's being worked on
[16:47] <jpatrick> ryanakca: uploading now..
[16:47] <emonkey> jpatrick, ok thank you I'll wait :)
[16:49] <jpatrick> ryanakca: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-promo
[16:52] <ryanakca> jpatrick: Merci :)
[17:09] <jpatrick> ryanakca: now, if only I could get svg's on that merry-christmas thing
[17:25] <jdong> Tonio__: *grr* overnight KTorrent upstream has come up with an alternate fix for the crasher; I'm testing it right now and if it looks good I'll need your help to upload that too :)
[17:32] <jdong> can anyone enlighten me as to why moc in a pbuilder always stalls with Session management error: Could not open network socket
[17:33] <jpatrick> I think it's just making the files
[17:38] <jdong> jpatrick: well the thing is these messages cause like 5 second stalls per file.... KTorrent's compile in pbuilder takes nearly 4x the  time on my fast CPU than a debuild outside chroot
[17:38] <jpatrick> same with me :>
[17:39] <jdong> I'm just curious (1) what it's trying to open a socket to (2) How to stop that
[17:41] <ryanakca> jpatrick: merry christmas thing?
[17:42] <jpatrick> ryanakca: http://ubuntuusers.de/ikhaya/799/
[17:47]  * jdong takes deep breath and tests if ktorrent patch works
[17:51] <jdong> whoooo!
[17:51] <jdong> so... anyone up to sponsor a ktorrent package? *grin*
[17:52] <jdong> http://jdong.mit.edu/~jdong/motu/ktorrent_2.2.3-0ubuntu3.dsc
[17:53] <jpatrick> I would but I'm not core-dev :(
[17:53] <jdong> ryanakca: you talked within the past 10 minutes, so I think that's volunteering :)
[17:53] <jdong> hehe
[17:54] <jdong> (before long, all channels will go silent as soon as I join)
[17:56] <jdong> hey Tonio_ , you about? :)
[18:18] <eljefe_> is there a website where I can see the reasons for package updates?
[18:23] <jdong> eljefe_: packages.ubuntu.com search for your package and you'll be able to find changelog links
[18:23] <jdong> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/packagename should also provide similar info
[18:23] <eljefe_> by date, do you know, jdong?
[18:24] <jdong> updates by date?
[18:24] <eljefe_> yeah
[18:24] <jdong> then you want the gutsy-changes mailing list archive
[18:24] <jdong> lists.ubuntu.com
[18:24] <eljefe_> ps page not found for that link
[18:24] <jdong> find the -changes corresponding to the distro you're looking for
[18:24] <eljefe_> thats exactly what i want, thanks!
[18:24] <jdong> eljefe_: replace packagename with the actual name of the package :D
[18:24] <jdong> eljefe_: I think seveas also maintains RSS feeds of the -changes archives
[18:25] <eljefe_> even better, thank you
[18:25] <jpatrick> eljefe_: http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/rss/hardy.xml
[18:33] <Tonio_> jdong: feel free to send me the debdiff by email
[18:33] <Tonio_> I will not be in front of the computer toonight
[18:33] <jdong> Tonio_: I've got the dsc @
[18:33] <jdong> Tonio_: I've got the dsc @ http://jdong.mit.edu/~jdong/motu/ktorrent_2.2.3-0ubuntu3.dsc
[18:33] <jdong> it's ready to upload, build tested here in pbuilder
[18:34] <Tonio_> jdong: nothing to do with the dsc :)
[18:34] <Tonio_> I need the diff.gz or a debdiff
[18:34] <jdong> pfft you and imbrandon need to standardize on the format you want from me!
[18:34] <jdong> *generates a debdiff :D*
[18:35] <Tonio_> jdong: super, thanks ;)
[18:35] <jdong> Tonio_: voila http://jdong.mit.edu/~jdong/motu/ktorrent_2.2.3-0ubuntu3.debdiff
[18:36] <Tonio_> jdong: merci beaucoup
[18:37] <Tonio_> jdong: will upload toonight
[18:38] <jdong> thanks
[20:17] <mhb> hmm, no heated discussions today?
[20:17] <mhb> too bad
[20:18] <coreymon77> lol
[20:28]  * apachelogger thinks we should remove all autohell from upstream and use cmake instead
[20:28] <mhb> apachelogger: Qt is better than GTK (technically), why don't we remove all GTKhell from upstream and use Qt only?
[20:29] <mhb> oh wait, we cannot do that :o)
[20:29] <apachelogger> we cant????
[20:29] <mhb> apachelogger: what I'm trying to say is, except in mathematics, there's always a wrong decision being made and we have to deal with it
[20:30] <apachelogger> everyone in favor of remove *hell with the technical better solution, say "aye", everyone against it say "nay"
[20:30] <mhb> apachelogger: even if you could mathematically prove your suggestion is correct, people would ignore you
[20:30] <apachelogger> because they are all too tired to discuss today :P
[20:31] <mhb> that's how humans work, stubborn, self-centred and stuff
[20:31]  * apachelogger is watching ksquirrel compile
[20:31] <fdoving> once they understand cmake they will all move there .)
[20:31]  * emonkey wants to watch kdelibs compiling but it still dont want to
[20:31] <apachelogger> if autohell would be any slower I might get enough sleep, by using the produced non-productive time
[20:31] <fdoving> hah :)
[20:32] <apachelogger> emonkey: ye probably could just remove the soprano package
[20:32] <fdoving> bbl. tv.
[20:32] <apachelogger> so you only have one soprano version installed
[20:32] <emonkey> apachelogger, if y type soprano --version it shows 1.97 should be the right version already
[20:32] <emonkey> s/y/i/
[20:33] <apachelogger> so you br0ke your build environment
[20:33] <apachelogger> omg!
[20:33] <apachelogger> ksquirrel went wocka -.-
[20:34] <emonkey> apachelogger, I didn't broke it, it's the first time on this machine.... real virgin... ;)
[20:34] <apachelogger> omg
[20:34] <apachelogger> so ye forgot something
[20:36] <emonkey> apachelogger, maybe it's anyway if I try it on my laptop, then I'll have a new KDE compile on it at our speech at linuxday next saturday
[20:36] <emonkey> anyway better
[20:37] <apachelogger> that even will suck big time
[20:37] <apachelogger> s/even/event
[20:38] <emonkey> but we'll see us again and we will get one ot two beer together ... :)
[20:39] <apachelogger> beer ftw!
[20:40] <emonkey> isn't that enough solace?
[20:40] <emonkey> only a cold comfort?
[20:41] <emonkey> come on my brother vom the east coast ... :P
[20:41] <emonkey> s/vom/from/
[20:41] <apachelogger> east coast ftw!
[20:42]  * apachelogger is wondering what packman did to the ksquirrel tarball
[20:42] <jpatrick> apachelogger: you could translate the kubuntu-leaflet to German :D
[20:42] <apachelogger> 4588 line diff
[20:42] <apachelogger> jpatrick: kubuntu-de@lists.ubuntu.com
[20:42]  * apachelogger only speaks austrian :P
[20:43]  * emonkey only speaks swiss-german *hide*
[20:43] <jpatrick> ha
[20:45] <apachelogger> /usr/share/qt3/bin/uic -L /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer -nounload /tmp/buildd/ksquirrel-0.7.5/./ksquirrel/imageedit/sq_imagebcg.ui | /usr/bin/perl -pi -e "s,public QWizard,public KWizard,g; s,#include <qwizard.h>,#include <kwizard.h>,g" >> sq_imagebcg.h ;
[20:45]  * apachelogger is wondering why stupid autohell can't find the file
[20:45] <apachelogger> ...probably because it's an outta source build...
[20:45] <apachelogger> -.-
[20:50] <apachelogger> jpatrick: I assume sorting copyrighs and licenses is going to be fun for ksquirrel
[20:51] <jpatrick> yep :>
[20:51]  * apachelogger really thinks jpatrick could do that :P
[20:52]  * jpatrick thinks he has enough studying for next weeks exam :>
[20:52] <apachelogger> well, I should do that as well
[20:52] <apachelogger> still I'm to tired anyway
[20:52] <mhb> jpatrick: next week?
[20:52] <mhb> jpatrick: you're no good student
[20:53] <mhb> good students like me learn 2 hours before the exam
[20:53] <jpatrick> mhb: next week = this week
[20:54] <apachelogger> mhb seems to be very confident :P
[20:54] <mhb> I'm confident, self-centered and stubborn, like the rest of the people in free software
[20:54] <mhb> :o)
[20:54]  * apachelogger is not
[20:54] <mhb> we take bad decisions and never take them back, even if we see a better solution
[20:55]  * apachelogger always does that
[20:55] <apachelogger> then again I do a lot of them :P
[20:55] <emonkey> apachelogger4president
[20:55] <emonkey> ahm no... world domination of course ;)
[20:57] <apachelogger> universe domination!
[20:57] <Riddell> apachelogger: why?
[20:58] <apachelogger> Riddell: the bad decisions, no world domination, or the universe domination?
[20:58] <Riddell> apachelogger: sorting ksquirrel copyright
[20:59] <apachelogger> Riddell: ksquirrel is having some kind of wrapper libs -> a lot of code ... plus the main app itself also looks like a lot of work
[20:59] <apachelogger> also it's at least missing the LGPL for admin/
[21:05] <apachelogger> jpatrick: I assume I now can run for MOTU?
[21:05] <apachelogger> dpkg-deb: building package `ksquirrel' in `../ksquirrel_0.7.5-0ubuntu1_i386.deb'.
[21:05] <jpatrick> apachelogger: yay
[21:06] <mhb> ooh, Riddell's here!
[21:06] <mhb> Riddell: I've poked you ~ 1000 times yesterday, hope you don't mind
[21:06] <apachelogger> lol
[21:08] <apachelogger> mhb: /usr/share/apps/dolphin/servicemenus/dolphksquirrel-dir.desktop is that going to work?
[21:09] <apachelogger> or do I have to move it to d3lphin?
[21:09] <mhb> not sure, I'm not one with servicemenus yet
[21:09] <mhb> especially not the 3rd party ones
[21:10] <apachelogger> well, gotta try then
[21:17] <jpatrick> apachelogger: but run for MOTU and we'll support you :)
[21:17] <apachelogger> ok :)
[21:17] <apachelogger> but first ksquirrel
[21:23] <ryanakca> jdong: I can't sponsor anything... at least not package wise...
[21:23]  * ryanakca != MOTU
[21:24] <jdong> ryanakca: ah, ok :) I've already got someone committed, thanks
[21:25] <ryanakca> jpatrick: that's a saweet marketting thing... Give someone the gift of freedom... :D
[21:27] <jpatrick> ryanakca: yep :)
[21:34] <jjesse> afternoon
[21:44] <apachelogger> jpatrick: copyright file for ksquirrel: 114 lines
[21:44] <apachelogger> not that bad
[21:44] <apachelogger> still the libs are to be checked :|
[21:44] <jpatrick> evin apachelogger
[21:44] <jpatrick> jjesse*
[21:46] <jjesse> hello jpatrick
[21:54] <ryanakca> jpatrick: hmm... do we want to have ubuntulinux.org at the bottom as link to Kubuntu, or www.kubuntu.org?
[21:55] <jpatrick> ryanakca: that's what was in the orig
[21:55] <ryanakca> hmmm...
[21:55] <jpatrick> and we have kubuntu.org above it in bigger text anyway :)
[21:55] <ryanakca> okies :)
[21:59]  * ryanakca grumbles at french not having one word for the two english frees... instead we have one for beer and then one for speech...
[22:00] <jpatrick> ryanakca: same in spanish and catalan :(
[22:21] <Riddell> ryanakca: that's a good thing
[22:22] <ryanakca> Riddell: yeah, except when you're translating from english and have to guess which one the original author intended, since the context works for both.
[22:22] <Riddell> mhb: you poked?
[22:22] <Riddell> ryanakca: sounds like the bug is in English
[22:23] <jpatrick> Riddell: so did I :) could you reject/approve semantik, new upstream release out
[22:23]  * claydoh wishes he learned catalan, lived on Menorca for 18 months back around 1981
[22:24] <ryanakca> Riddell: one of the times we were poking to see if you could use your super powers to poke the Canonical people for Drupal...
[22:25] <Riddell> ryanakca: meh, I've been doing that periodically, I'll continue to do so
[22:25] <ryanakca> Riddell: thanks :D
[22:29]  * ryanakca curses at accidently hitting ctrl-alt-backspace
[22:30] <coreymon77> ryanakca: accidentally?
[22:30] <coreymon77> ryanakca: kinda hard to do that, the keys are not that close together
[22:31] <ryanakca> hehe... well, stupidly.
[22:31] <jdong> it's very close to ctrl+bksp, which is a cool way to just press bksp :)
[22:31] <ryanakca> I was trying to remember what the backspace thing was for erasing a word at a time...
[22:31] <ryanakca> so there I was going ctrl-backspace... ctrl-shift-backspace... ctrl-alt-backspace... Boom!
[22:32] <ryanakca> the dangers of randomly pressing buttons :D
[22:36] <jdong> ryanakca: haha :D
[22:47] <apachelogger> jpatrick: I hope you finished studing for today...... it's revu time :-P
[22:48]  * jpatrick puts now dramtic theme music
[22:49] <apachelogger> ah
[22:49] <apachelogger> f**k
[22:50] <apachelogger> forgot to check the diff.gz -.-
[22:50] <jpatrick> hmm, didn't I +1 qgrubeditor?
[22:50] <Riddell> jpatrick: about semantik, it doesn't build-dep on kde 4 but it says kde 4 is required in this version
[22:52] <coreymon77> any idea when kde4 konversation will be released, because as good as the qt3 version works on x11.app, its still got many bugs and annoyances
[22:52] <jpatrick> Riddell: odd, so I should just remove kdelibs5-dev?
[22:53] <apachelogger> *redput*
[22:53] <apachelogger> jpatrick: can't remember at least
[22:53] <Riddell> jpatrick: oh, there it is
[22:53] <Riddell> jpatrick: does this compile and run?
[22:53] <jpatrick> Riddell: can't test run (not on hardy), but it did compile
[22:53] <jpatrick> apachelogger: it is now
[22:54] <Riddell> surprising
[22:54] <jpatrick> Riddell: too bad the code's in Hungarian :)
[22:55] <apachelogger> jpatrick: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=ksquirrel-libs can you please nuke that one, for some reason I renamed the source tar to libksquirrel
[22:55] <jpatrick> apachelogger: I can archive
[22:56] <apachelogger> Riddell: can you nuke something on revu?
[22:56] <Riddell> apachelogger: nope
[22:56] <jpatrick> apachelogger: you'll have to fish an admin in #-motu
[22:56] <apachelogger> again -.-
[22:56] <Riddell> jpatrick: semantik accepted
[22:57] <jpatrick> I'll prepare the new version now, thanks
[22:57] <apachelogger> Riddell: can you take a look at squash?
[22:57] <jpatrick> Riddell: I never upload anything I haven't pbuilt :)
[22:58]  * ryanakca debates on convivialité vs utilisabilité
[22:58] <ryanakca> marseillai: any opinion on the choice of words?
[22:59] <jpatrick> Riddell: err, why did it go into main?
[22:59]  * ryanakca is guessing that the average french person would only know the latter... 
[23:00] <Riddell> apachelogger: "Homepage: http://squeeze.googlecode.com" that URL doesn't work
[23:00] <Riddell> jpatrick: meh, fooey
[23:00] <apachelogger> -.-
[23:00] <jpatrick> Riddell: that's new policy
[23:01] <apachelogger> Riddell: can you change it or shall I reupload to revu again?
[23:01] <apachelogger> squash.googlecode.com
[23:01] <jpatrick> oh, wrong address
[23:01] <apachelogger> sebr renamed the app due to conflict with a xfce thingy
[23:01] <apachelogger> forgot to change the url
[23:01] <jpatrick> apachelogger: I'll dget and reupload
[23:01] <Riddell> jpatrick: fixed, thanks
[23:01] <Riddell> apachelogger: I can't change it
[23:02] <apachelogger> jpatrick: ok, thanks
[23:03] <apachelogger> jpatrick: here we go, ksquirrel part #1: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=libksquirrel
[23:04] <jpatrick> apachelogger: I'll look at it tomorrow, it's past bed time already
[23:04] <apachelogger> fair enough
[23:04]  * apachelogger should also go to bed
[23:05] <jpatrick> Riddell: can I reupload squash?
[23:05] <jpatrick> or will it just overwrite?