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Dante123Hi All, I have a Pentium 3 at 450 mhz and 192 mb ram.....should I go with the regular cd or the alternate install?  Thanks in advance for the advice.01:37
TheSheepalternate01:37
TheSheepit's always faster01:37
TheSheepwell, almost always01:37
Dante123ok...thanks I was leaning that way.  I just saw I had enough to do the regular in terms of ram.01:38
TheSheepDante123: well, that's kind of minimum...01:41
Dante123yeah, well this computer is for my kids to run audacity in and record.  Do you have another distro you suggest for this machine (that won't require me helping them more than necessary)?01:42
TheSheepDante123: no, xubuntu is optimized for 'works out of the box'01:49
R[a]ndomI have it installed on a similar system.  Its slow, but tolerable.01:51
R[a]ndomor so I remember. dont use it much01:51
R[a]ndomits mostly a backup server01:51
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Posty2k3Quick question for you guys if anyone's around... On this old laptop I have, I've managed to boot an old 7.04 disc (stops working when it's near the desktop because the disc is scratched, but at least shows the GUI starting up, etc). However, on trying to boot up 7.1, it shows a blank screen after going through the boot screen... It won't even start to go into the desktop envronment05:24
Posty2k3environment*05:24
Posty2k3Any ideas on what's wrong?05:24
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sugardrunkkthe applications don't seem to dock to panel anymore07:43
sugardrunkkaynone else experienced this?07:43
kwhkaugardrunkk: u don't see the panels on top and bottom?07:45
sugardrunkkkwhk, i do07:47
sugardrunkkkwhk, yeasterday, the menu disappearent from the up panel and now, the apps won't dock to it when minimized07:48
sugardrunkkWhat is is called where the applications dock?07:55
ere4siin the panel? system tray07:57
sugardrunkkere4si, yes, thanks :D08:06
ere4sik08:06
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maristoHello, can Xfburn record unicode filenames? Is here some problems?10:05
linuxkidhello10:50
linuxkid is there a way to make the windows allways open in maximized?10:51
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WalterBEHi, I have just gone over from ubuntu to xubuntu and am now trying to get everthing working again. Currently I have problems with google earth. I can not get it to work. I keeps stopping on the splach screen. I have a ATI radeon 9200 PRO grafic chip. I have found on the website of ATI proprietary software for that cart. Does anybody knows of those work for the current version of xubuntu? there are more then a year old.15:13
WalterBEhttp://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon-prer200.html15:13
TheSheepWalterBE: if it works in gnome, it should work in xfce15:15
TheSheepWalterBE: both ubuntu and xubuntu use the same kernels and kernel modules and x drivers15:15
WalterBEit used to work in gnome, sloow, very sloow, but it worked.15:16
jmolek28hi15:36
jmolek28i screwed up my xubuntu by trying to use compiz and it wouldnt let me do anything to windows, so i deleted the packages and now i dont have any frames around windows, how could i get them back?15:37
jmolek28i had to use compiz --replace to install it in the first place15:38
Tony_wait, you cant have compiz?!15:39
jmolek28i downloaded the package15:39
TheSheepjoakim_: xfwm415:39
jmolek28well, does anyone know the --replace command to use to reverse it15:41
TheSheepjoakim_: sorry :)15:42
TheSheepjmolek28: xfwm415:42
jmolek28okay.. so in the terminal type xfwm4 --replace?15:43
TheSheepjmolek28: no15:43
TheSheepjmolek28: type 'xfwm4;15:43
jmolek28thats it?15:43
TheSheeps/;/'15:43
TheSheepsorry15:43
jmolek28okay.. brb15:44
TheSheepwithout the quotes15:44
jmolek28wait... so "s/xfwn4/"15:44
TheSheepxfwm415:44
jmolek28okay15:44
jmolek28just that15:44
TheSheep5 characters15:44
jmolek28brb15:44
Tony_just xfwm415:44
TheSheepI sure can confuse things :)15:45
jmolek28AMAZING.. thank you so much15:45
jmolek28i had a minor flip out when i screwed it up earlier15:45
eNiNjAhello all....16:55
vinzeHey eNiNjA16:55
eNiNjAhas anyone ever seen the xfce-terminal crashing xorg?16:56
eNiNjAas soon as i start the terminal, xorg crashes and takes me to the login screen16:57
eNiNjAxfce4-terminal ......my bad17:00
eNiNjAwill do the same thing if i ctrl+alt+F1 to bring up the console when xfce4 is up and running17:00
TheSheepeNiNjA: yes, it happened in Gutsy with i810 and SiS graphics cards17:01
eNiNjAah17:01
eNiNjAi have the i81017:01
TheSheepeNiNjA: setting DefaultDepth to 16 helps17:01
eNiNjAok cool17:01
TheSheepeNiNjA: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf17:01
eNiNjAyea17:01
greencookiehelp17:08
maristoF117:08
greencookiehuh17:08
vinze!ask | greencookie17:10
ubotugreencookie: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)17:10
greencookie lol thnx vinze17:10
greencookieI'm totally new to xfce, I come primarily from gnome background.17:10
greencookieI messed up my taskbars in xfce17:11
greencookiehow do I reset everything?17:11
scizzo-hello, I was wondering isn't there suppose to be a xubuntu-restricted-extras in the repo?17:11
vinzescizzo-, there is in 7.10, just not via Add/Remove... (I've already filed a bug)17:11
greencookiescizzo-: yes there is17:11
vinzegreencookie, the panel's configuration is in ~/.config/xfce4/panel17:12
scizzo-strange...its not in my repo...even though I am using all available17:12
vinzegreencookie, but I suppose that'll only enable you to delete everything and re-create it again17:12
sauI messed up the panels how can I reset them? Do I have to add remove a user everytime?17:14
vinzesau, you too?17:15
vinzesau, in any case, you could copy a new user's configuration from ~/.config/xfce4/panel to your own home directory17:15
sauvinze this is greencookie. I got dc before I could read your answers.17:15
sauvinze thanks!17:15
vinze:)17:16
eNiNjAhello all19:43
eNiNjAi just wanted to say thankyou to whoever it was that helped me with the xfce4-terminal xorg crash problem earlier19:47
eNiNjAmy net went down, and i couldnt come to give my gratitude =)19:47
nicolahwhere can I find the vnc server configuration in xubuntu 7.10 ? thanks20:23
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retouranybody experienced xfce and alsa mixer problems? locked setting of capture!?23:13
crimsunthat happens if you use pulseaudio23:13
crimsun(and your driver only exposes one playback/capture mixer element)23:14
retourcrimsun: what does it mean pulseaudio?23:14
crimsunretour: something likely irrelevant in this situation (otherwise you'd know :)23:15
retouror simply how to cure it! It was OK yesterday and died today23:15
crimsunany apps hanging on to the mixer?23:15
crimsun`sudo lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/mixer* /dev/audio* /dev/snd/*`23:16
retourI dont think so rebooted many times played with alsamixergui and alsamixer under console23:16
retourCOMMAND    PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE  NODE NAME23:18
retourxfce-mcs- 6718 sylwek    5u   CHR 116,12      13536 /dev/snd/controlC023:18
retourxfce4-mix 6739 sylwek   14u   CHR 116,12      13536 /dev/snd/controlC023:18
crimsunexpand $COLUMNS23:19
retourCOMMAND         PID        USER        FD        TYPE      DEVICE SIZE       NODE NAME23:22
retourxfce-mcs-          6718      sylwek      5u        CHR        116,12              13536 /dev/snd/controlC023:22
retourxfce4-mix          6739      sylwek      14u       CHR        116,12             13536 /dev/snd/controlC023:22
retourI put more spaces but it sti;; ;ooks same23:23
retourwhere should I use your expand columns here or in console?23:23
crimsunhmm23:25
crimsunexport COLUMNS=20023:25
crimsunthen rerun it23:25
retourgot disconnected: cromsun what was the last part youve got from me?23:28
crimsun18:25 < crimsun> export COLUMNS=20023:28
crimsun18:25 < crimsun> then rerun it23:28
retourno difference! I put it as a 1-st command and than your ls and no difference23:32
crimsunhmm, probably sudo wiping the env23:33
crimsuntry without the sudo23:33
retourCOMMAND    PID   USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE  NODE NAME23:33
retourxfce-mcs- 6718 sylwek    5u   CHR 116,12      13536 /dev/snd/controlC023:33
retourxfce4-mix 6739 sylwek   14u   CHR 116,12      13536 /dev/snd/controlC023:33
crimsunsigh23:34
crimsunok, `ps 6718 ; ps 6739`23:34
retourwhat I can retype to make it easier?23:34
retourroot@X-BOX:/home/sylwek# ps 6718 ; ps 673923:35
retour  PID TTY      STAT   TIME COMMAND23:35
retour 6718 ?        Ss     0:00 xfce-mcs-manager23:35
retour  PID TTY      STAT   TIME COMMAND23:35
retour 6739 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/xfce4-mixer/xfce4/panel-plugins/xfce4-mixer-23:35
retourI can use the paste link if can help anyhow23:36
crimsunok, is this behaviour reproducible after you've logged out of Xfce and into the terminal (tty/0 or vc/0)?23:37
crimsuni.e., don't use gdm, use a tty23:38
retourwhat behaviour?23:38
crimsun"locked setting of capture"23:38
retourhmmm let me try alsamixer under console23:39
smacintyreanyone know how to get my ensoniq (audio pci) to work with xubuntu?23:40
retourcrimsun: after alsamixer under console I dont even see slider named Capture!?23:41
crimsunretour: did you press F4?23:41
retourayyy sorry!!! Man U know everything23:41
crimsunsmacintyre: what do you mean that it doesn't work?23:42
smacintyreI have no sound23:42
crimsunsmacintyre: does `asoundconf list` in a Terminal list it?23:42
smacintyreok23:42
smacintyreNames of available sound cards:23:43
smacintyreAudioPCI23:43
smacintyreNames of available sound cards:23:43
smacintyreAudioPCI23:43
retourcrimsun: OK under console/root/alsamixer everything works! (visually). But under gui xfce-mixer my Capture slider is on the rubber. I pull it up and it drops back down23:44
crimsunsmacintyre: it looks like it's detected just fine.  Have you checked the mixer levels?23:44
crimsunretour: probably an xfce4-mixer bug23:44
smacintyremixer settings show everything as checked. how do you adjust levels?23:45
crimsunsmacintyre: pastebin `amixer` output23:46
smacintyreSimple mixer control 'Master',023:48
smacintyre  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch23:48
smacintyre  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right23:48
smacintyre  Limits: Playback 0 - 3123:48
smacintyre  Mono:23:48
crimsunplease let him know about http://pastebin.ca when he returns23:48
crimsunI'm out for a few minutes23:48
somerville32Why would I get this?23:50
somerville32[19:36] <somerville32> The court would simply order you to produce it23:50
somerville32[19:36] <somerville32> Or the attorney can issue a subpoena23:50
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somerville32[19:40] <JackQW> god dammit23:51
somerville32ermm...23:51
somerville32eth1: error fetching interface information: Device not found23:51
retourany way to cure this bug? How about totally removing and reinstalling the whole sound system?23:57
crimsunsomerville32: well, I'm not sure what evil you did to be subpoenaed... ;p23:58
crimsunsomerville32: probably an iface rename issue.  Check `ip a`.23:58
TheSheepand /etc/iftab23:58
crimsunsomerville32: namely, my eth1 stopped being renamed from wlan0_rename23:59
somerville32eth0 mac 00:08:54:d1:98:4e23:59
somerville32eth1 mac 00:c0:4f:6f:88:4423:59
crimsun(Then again, I know the reason on my machine.  I removed the scripts.)23:59
somerville32But I can't access eth123:59
somerville32and eth2 comes up23:59
somerville32Maybe the mac address changed?23:59

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