[00:11] <Ubulette> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll2kajMH2u0
[00:12] <asac> lol
[00:21] <Ubulette> asac, sending the patches upstream is independent
[00:21] <Ubulette> not to mention they are yours ;)
[00:22] <asac_> really :)
[00:22] <asac_> yes its independent ... didn't know where to note that
[00:23] <Ubulette> prism is done too. i really like it now.
[00:27] <asac_> where can i get it? does it work with beta?
[00:28] <Ubulette> yes
[00:28] <Ubulette> any xul 1.9
[00:33] <Ubulette> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tarballs/prism_0.8+svn20071115r8030.orig.tar.gz
[00:33] <Ubulette> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/prism/prism
[00:33] <Ubulette> asac_ ^^
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[00:37] <Ubulette> asac, ^^
[00:41] <asac> no manpage?
[00:42] <Ubulette> yes, there is, i made one
[00:43] <Ubulette> but, well, it's a web/desktop thing, why would anyone want a man page ?
[00:45] <asac> Ubulette: why do you tar/untar the apps?
[00:45] <asac> what benefit over copy do you have?
[00:46] <Ubulette> do i ? i just unzip the logo
[00:46] <asac> ( cd install/profiles; tar cf - . ) | ( cd debian/tmp$(DEB_MOZ_DATA)/apps ; tar xvf - )
[00:46] <Ubulette> that's a copy
[00:46] <asac> yes ... but why not us cp ?
[00:46] <asac> use
[00:47] <Ubulette> i'm old school, cp -ar is not portable for me ;)
[00:47] <Ubulette> does it matter ?
[00:47] <asac> no
[00:47] <asac> just wondered why you stick to it
[00:48] <Ubulette> i've worked with sunos and solaris where /bin/sh is really dumb
[00:48] <Ubulette> that was a long time ago but habits stay
[00:49] <asac> prism depends on dom-inspector?
[00:49] <Ubulette> (you don't teach new tricks to an old dog)
[00:49] <Ubulette> yes
[00:49] <asac> why?
[00:49] <Ubulette> because it's still young ? it's shipped upstream on win and mac too
[00:50] <asac> yes, but what happens if you make a recommends out of it? does it break?
[00:50] <asac> or suggest
[00:50] <Ubulette> in previous versions, it broke
[00:51] <Ubulette> i haven't tried as i don't think it matters much
[00:52] <asac> its damned that every application creates a top level applicatio nentry ... but maybe i just need to get used to :)
[00:52] <asac> but clicking on prism should definitly prsent the user with buttons to start applications :)
[00:52] <asac> (or url)
[00:54] <Ubulette> ? eh
[00:54] <Ubulette> when you start prism, you get a ui to create a desktop file just by entering a name and an url
[00:55] <asac> yes
[00:55] <Ubulette> you get the default icon but you can change it afterwards
[00:55] <asac> this should also have a list of deployed webapps imo
[00:55] <asac> e.g. a starter panel
[00:55] <Ubulette> why ? it's supposed to be integrated in the desktop
[00:55] <Ubulette> so you can put your entries in the menu
[00:56] <Ubulette> or in the panel
[00:56] <Ubulette> or on the desktop
[00:56] <Ubulette> or a mix
[00:56] <asac> hmm ... then prism main program should go and a mime-type should be registered that invokes prism
[00:56] <Ubulette> it's supposed to
[00:56] <asac> can you install webapps by running prism + url on cmd line?
[00:57] <Ubulette> prism foo.webapp
[00:57] <Ubulette> it's my script
[00:58] <Ubulette> or run prism-whatever directly
[00:58] <asac> hmm
[00:58] <asac> i though opening a webapp by url would be remembered somehow
[00:58] <asac> but probably to early for that
[00:58] <Ubulette> it does
[00:59] <Ubulette> you have something created in ~/.prism/*default/webapps/
[01:00] <asac> clicking on .webapp doesn't work :(
[01:00] <asac> in nautilus
[01:01] <Ubulette> hmm, it did before
[01:01] <asac> need to restart anything?
[01:01] <Ubulette> nautilus
[01:01] <Ubulette> killall
[01:01] <asac> in firefox neither
[01:01] <Ubulette> same, kill it, and you need a web site sending the correct mime type
[01:02] <asac> noper
[01:02] <asac> didn't heop
[01:03] <asac> it should use the one used by gnome  i guess
[01:03] <asac> but gnome doesn't work as well
[01:03] <asac> restarted vfs as well
[01:03] <asac> lets restart session
[01:05] <Ubulette> if i visit /usr/share/prism/apps in nautilus and click on anything in there, it popups the expected webapp
[01:07] <asac> interseting
[01:07] <Ubulette> same with file:///usr/share/prism/apps/ in ff3
[01:07] <asac> in that folder the files have different icons
[01:08] <Ubulette> yes, maybe something is missing but at least, it works
[01:08] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/screenshots/Screenshot-apps.png
[01:08] <asac> doesn't work for me in any case
[01:09] <asac> i have prism_*deb and prism-*deb installed :)
[01:09] <Ubulette> what do you have if you double click one of those ?
[01:10] <asac> for both types i get "xyz cannot be opened
[01:10] <asac> "
[01:10] <asac> no application is known for this kind of file
[01:10] <Ubulette> hmm, it works here
[01:12] <asac> in /usr/lib/mime/packages/prism it looks wierd
[01:12] <asac> application/vnd.mozilla.webapp ext: webapp
[01:12] <asac> the other files look definitly different :)
[01:15] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 403593
[01:15] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 403593 in Prism "prism on ubuntu should be in menu, have icons, file associations, etc." [Enhancement,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=403593
[01:16] <asac> well running prism from command line with .webapp doesn't work either :(
[01:16] <asac> it just opens the url dialog
[01:17] <Ubulette> hm, maybe my fault. I changed a couple of things in the last commit
[01:17] <asac> oh
[01:17] <asac> i have now:
[01:18] <Ubulette> i don't use prism like that, that's why
[01:18] <asac> /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/gnome-app-install --mime-type=application/vnd.mozilla.webapp file:///usr/share/prism/apps/google-groups.webapp /usr/share/prism/apps/google-groups.webapp
[01:18] <asac> and 2 more of those
[01:18] <asac> whats going on?
[01:19] <Ubulette> ?
[01:19] <asac> k wanna fix it?
[01:20] <asac> i mean the "open with url/file" thing?
[01:23] <Ubulette> yep
[01:26] <Ubulette> damn, i have greader registered as the default app for webapps
[01:35] <Ubulette> asac, i've fixed the script when it's called either like that:
[01:35] <Ubulette> prism file:///usr/share/prism/apps/google-mail.webapp
[01:35] <Ubulette> or like that:
[01:35] <Ubulette> prism /usr/share/prism/apps/google-mail.webapp
[01:36] <Ubulette> it works in nautilus when I right click and select run with prism
[01:36] <Ubulette> but by default, the action is run with google reader for me
[01:37] <asac> pull now?
[01:37] <Ubulette> not yet, i document
[01:38] <asac> welll i think file:/usr/... is also legal
[01:39] <asac> and file:some/relativ/path as well :)
[01:39] <Ubulette> i don't think it is
[01:39] <Ubulette> nautilus never does that
[01:40] <asac> but firefox for instance
[01:40] <asac> really i think those are valid :)
[01:40] <asac> though not that important now .)
[01:40] <asac> why not just pass the argument to prism?
[01:41] <asac> e.g. -webapp file:relative/thing/webapp.webapp
[01:42] <Ubulette> i does not support urls (iirc)
[01:42] <Ubulette> it
[01:42] <Ubulette> pushed
[01:43] <Ubulette> I just don't know what's wrong with the mimetype
[01:44] <asac> but http works?
[01:44] <asac> how?
[01:45] <asac> ah its downloaded first i guess
[01:45] <asac> ok
[01:52] <asac> yeah ... still broken
[01:52] <asac> the mime type
[01:53] <Ubulette> right click in nautilus doesn't work ?
[01:54] <Ubulette> add "echo $0 $@ >> /tmp/prism.log" at the beginning of /usr/bin/prism
[01:54] <Ubulette> click and see what you get
[01:55] <asac> Ubulette: its not invoked
[01:56] <asac> gnome doesn't know anything about prism and .webapp
[01:56] <asac> same for firefox
[01:58] <Ubulette> why does it for me ?
[02:01] <Ubulette> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/nautilus.png
[02:02] <Ubulette> obviously, the default is wrong but still, prism is there (below)
[02:02] <Ubulette> if you can pinpoint the bug, you're welcome
[02:11] <asac> tomorrow ...maybe restarting gnome completely helps.
[02:11] <asac> but will go to bed now
[02:11] <Ubulette> me too
[02:11] <Ubulette> 'night
[02:12] <asac> bye
[14:57] <gnomefreak> asac: did you get chance to look and push iceape and sunbird? im seeing bug reports in sunbird i would like to say test with 0.7 atm
[15:32] <gnomefreak> asac: the version of firefox-webdeveloper built with firefox is 1.0.2+0-2ubuntu1 and bug 163652 wants to upgrade it I dont think it can be upgraded in Gutsy since it was minor bug fixes no security fixes please comment on bug on what you will do with it.
[15:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 163652 in webdeveloper "Upgrade from 1.0.2 to 1.1.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163652
[17:02] <Ubulette_> hi
[17:03] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, does it support ff3 now ?
[18:23] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: i believ eit does
[18:24] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: no not yet
[18:24] <gnomefreak> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/60 just through 2.0.0.*
[18:24] <Ubulette> ok
[18:24] <gnomefreak> why the hell wont weechat run
[18:26] <gnomefreak> brb
[18:32] <thunderstruck> what channel is this?
[18:36] <Ubulette> mt
[18:46] <gnomefreak> yeah i figured that out was playing with weechat and didnt know how  to change channels
[19:00] <Ubulette> asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/nautilus-prism.png
[20:49] <Ubulette> asac, gnomefreak, could you try prism ? i think i've fixed the icons / mime-types for both firefox and nautilus. At least it works for me.
[20:59] <Ubulette> bluekuja, ping sm1 ?
[21:01] <Ubulette> Admiral_Chicago, what's wrong with the miro image you blogged about ?
[21:47] <gnomefreak> whats the diference between prism and prism-launchpad?
[21:51] <Ubulette> prism-launchpad was an attempt to make a webapp for LP. forget it
[21:51] <Ubulette> prims is the main package
[21:51] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, ^^
[21:51] <gnomefreak> ok
[21:51] <Ubulette> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tarballs/prism_0.8+svn20071115r8030.orig.tar.gz
[21:52] <Ubulette> i've also built it in my ppa
[22:02] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, once you have prism and a couple of webapps installed, please visit /usr/share/prism/apps with nautilus, right click on a .webapp file and tell me which apps are proposed (or screenshot the menu).
[22:03] <gnomefreak> k
[22:05] <gnomefreak> you just want list of whats in /usr/share/prism/apps
[22:05] <gnomefreak> everything i installed is in there
[22:05] <gnomefreak> they all have .webapp name
[22:06] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: ^^
[22:08] <Ubulette> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/nautilus-prism.png
[22:08] <Ubulette> ?
[22:08] <Ubulette> do you see something like that ?
[22:08] <gnomefreak> not the pretty icons
[22:08] <Ubulette> hmm
[22:08] <gnomefreak> but yes i see them just paper icons
[22:08] <Ubulette> not good then
[22:09] <gnomefreak> im assuming it depends what theme your using?
[22:09] <Ubulette> no
[22:09] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[22:09] <gnomefreak> give me a minute ill upload screenshot
[22:10] <Ubulette> do you have /usr/share/icons/gnome/48x48/mimetypes/gnome-mime-application-vnd.mozilla.webapp.png ?
[22:11] <gnomefreak> gnome-mime-application-vnd.mozilla.webapp.png
[22:11] <Ubulette> please show me right click menu
[22:11] <gnomefreak> gnome-mime-application-x-drivel.png
[22:11] <Ubulette> killall nautilus
[22:12] <gnomefreak> http://profile.imageshack.us/user/gnomefreak/images/detail/#511/screenshotwx3.png <<< before killall
[22:13] <Ubulette> ok
[22:13] <gnomefreak> after kill all its the same
[22:13] <Ubulette> hm
[22:14] <gnomefreak> it seems you cant take screenshot when context menu is open
[22:14] <Ubulette> add a delay
[22:14] <gnomefreak> dont know how ot screenshot from term
[22:14] <Ubulette> use the ui
[22:15] <Ubulette> applications / accessories / take screenshot
[22:18] <gnomefreak> uploading
[22:19] <gnomefreak> http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotso1.png
[22:20] <Ubulette> not the right link
[22:21] <gnomefreak> hmmm
[22:22] <gnomefreak> http://profile.imageshack.us/user/gnomefreak/images/detail/#86/screenshotso1.png
[22:22] <gnomefreak> try that
[22:22] <gnomefreak> wtf
[22:22] <gnomefreak> dont click on it paste link into browset
[22:22] <gnomefreak> browser
[22:23] <gnomefreak> atleast i cant click it here, it only uses half the link if i do
[22:23] <Ubulette> hmm. you sure you pulled my branch before building ?
[22:23] <gnomefreak> i didnt build it
[22:23] <gnomefreak> i used your .debs
[22:23] <Ubulette> ?
[22:23] <Ubulette> oh
[22:23] <Ubulette> fta4 ?
[22:23] <gnomefreak> saves me timeyes
[22:23] <Ubulette> hmm
[22:23] <gnomefreak> saves me time   and yes
[22:24] <gnomefreak> are you sure it doesnt go on theme?
[22:24] <Ubulette> yes
[22:25] <Ubulette> and in firefox ?
[22:28] <gnomefreak> what about firefox
[22:29] <Ubulette> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/firefox-prism.png
[22:29] <Ubulette> try file:///usr/share/prism/apps/
[22:30] <gnomefreak> same
[22:31] <Ubulette> as in nothing ?
[22:31] <Ubulette> or same as me ?
[22:31] <gnomefreak> posting screenshot
[22:31] <gnomefreak> same as in nautilud for me
[22:31] <gnomefreak> -d +s
[22:32] <gnomefreak> http://profile.imageshack.us/user/gnomefreak/images/detail/#98/firefoxprismha3.png
[22:32] <gnomefreak> i have to run out for ~ 1 hr should i build it or just keep it as is to test?
[22:33] <Ubulette> i'm out of ideas. it works on my side
[22:34] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: amuse me and try human icon theme
[22:36] <gnomefreak> bbs
[22:36] <Ubulette> that's what i'm using
[22:37] <Ubulette> i still see the prisms whatever the theme, industrialtango, high contrast inverse, ...
[23:07] <Ubulette> hmm, i think i got it
[23:13] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, please retry using my branch. it's tiny/fast
[23:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Ubulette: it had a copyright picture license agreeement but the program is GPL so the images should be copyleft
[23:28] <Ubulette> Admiral_Chicago, oh, i read the picture was GPL too
[23:30] <Admiral_Chicago> nope
[23:30] <Admiral_Chicago> so can someone explain to me what  prism is
[23:30] <Admiral_Chicago> i just saw something about that branch today in my email
[23:31] <Ubulette> http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/
[23:31] <Admiral_Chicago> looking
[23:31] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[23:32] <Ubulette> or more generally http://wiki.mozilla.org/Prism
[23:32] <Ubulette> I think i'm done packaging it
[23:33] <Admiral_Chicago> very interesting idea
[23:42] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: you have tarball handy or does mozclient make one (or should i use one from PPA?
[23:43] <Ubulette> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tarballs/prism_0.8+svn20071115r8030.orig.tar.gz
[23:43] <Ubulette> (as always)
[23:43] <gnomefreak> ah
[23:49] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, so ? you're done ? (it builds in 5 sec for me)
[23:49] <gnomefreak> no im reading something ill build it after im done
[23:54] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: you built this for gutsy or hardy?
[23:54] <Ubulette> in my ppa, both
[23:55] <gnomefreak> ok
[23:55] <gnomefreak> just checking
[23:55] <Ubulette> that's the only thing i'm still building for gutsy in my ppa, i'm out of space