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free1you know what is weird02:09
free1when prompted to select my remote control, it has the manufacturer listed02:10
free1but it appears it cannot interface with the card02:10
free1even though the drivers appear loaded02:10
free1Phillips chipset02:10
free1on a Chronos pcmicia card02:11
free1ya mean02:13
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mavricwassup02:23
mavricdownloading the mythbuntu iso now02:24
MythbuntuGuest02Anybody know why my channel names aren't getting fetched?02:25
MythbuntuGuest02information is there, just no names on most. For some reason HBO and Cspan show up fine02:25
free1guest02-- what tuner card are you using?02:25
mavricwintvgo02:26
free1oh, so... desktop02:29
free1?02:29
mavricya02:29
free1seems like haupauge is the way to go.02:30
mavricthis will be my first attempt at mythtv02:31
mavricmaybe its a myth haha02:31
free1true, true. ha02:32
MythbuntuGuest02whoops I got distracted, Hauppauge PVR-15002:33
free102-  wow, and I thought the haupage pvr-150 was problem free...02:34
free1... I'm guessing that it's a channel feeder issue02:35
free1and not neccessarily that of mythtv02:35
MythbuntuGuest02aw man, that's no fun02:36
free1yeah, at least it's not mythtv02:36
MythbuntuGuest02I think I actually saw the same issue posted somewhere, but I can't remember what the answer was and find it again02:37
MythbuntuGuest02I had an old mythtv installation I hadn't used in months, figured I could use a fresh reinstall and that maybe it would work02:37
MythbuntuGuest02but looks like I've hit the same problem02:38
MythbuntuGuest02ooh maybe I found it again02:40
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest02, where do you get your channel data from?02:42
free1good question.02:51
free1some sources are notorious for taking down the electronic availability of their feeds02:51
free1as has happened in my neck of the woods02:51
Toxicity999Anyone else on trunk builds noting freezes? >.>03:02
Toxicity999just started after todays uploads03:02
* Toxicity999 attempts to ssh the box03:02
Toxicity999Locked solid.03:02
Toxicity999Probably upstream anyway, trunk does that occasionally.03:03
MythbuntuGuest24alright this the guy who was getting no channel names03:13
MythbuntuGuest24turns out if I delete all the channel info and fetch from the source WITHOUT scanning I get the info03:13
MythbuntuGuest24BUT03:13
tgm4883_laptopMythbuntuGuest24, where do you get your channel data from?03:13
MythbuntuGuest24the info is 2 channels off03:13
tgm4883_laptopwhere do you live?03:14
MythbuntuGuest24Connecticut03:14
MythbuntuGuest24and schedulesdirect03:14
tgm4883_laptopinteresting03:15
MythbuntuGuest24also using PVR-150 if that's relevant03:16
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superm1foxbuntu___, ?03:39
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Miragehas anyone done an upgrade to the latest release? I'm not seeing anything in the documentation  about it.05:01
superm1latest release of mythbuntu?05:02
Mirageyeah05:02
Miragei don't want to just blindly do a dist-upgrade and wind up with the full gnome/kde, etc for an htpc05:03
Miragegranted it can all be stripped back off05:03
superm1what'd you start with?05:05
Miragei'm running the previous release atm.  i've updated mythtv itself independently (following trunk)05:06
superm1well what od you mean previous05:06
superm1like alpha1 previous?05:07
superm1or like release candidate05:07
Mirageworse case i can just dump the db, backup all the .confs and do a fresh install..05:07
Miragealpha05:07
superm1alpha...05:10
superm1which one05:10
superm1i'm asking so specifically to let you know which is the easier route05:10
superm1there was a ton of changes between some of the earlier ones05:11
Miragei don't know for sure..i'd have to dig the disc. i already nuked the iso when i got the latest release05:11
Miragemine has a different window manager, doesn't seem to include MCC, etc05:11
free1are phillips chipset ok to use?05:13
superm1yeah you're using one of the much earlier ones then05:13
superm1probably alpha 2 or 305:13
superm1alpha4 would have been a pretty smooth upgrade, but i'll expect some complications with alpha305:13
Mirageso apt-get dist-upgrade isn't an option and i'd probably just be better off to back up all the custom configs and db, install fresh, and import it all back in05:14
Miragefree1: for..?05:19
superm1Mirage, well05:19
superm1here's what i say you do05:20
superm1back up the db, the custom stuff and ~05:20
free1mirage: for mythtv05:20
superm1Mirage, and give it a shot05:20
superm1Mirage, the upgrade05:20
free1mirage- sorry I didn't know that was for me.05:20
superm1Mirage, after the upgrade finishes, make sure mythbuntu-desktop is installed05:20
Miragefree1: tuner chipset or which?05:20
superm1Mirage, and make sure that your log in session is the "Mythbuntu" session05:20
free1tuner/recoder chipset05:20
superm1Mirage, and if you have ubuntu-mythtv-frontend installed, remove it05:21
superm1Mirage, with any luck that should cover your cases05:21
Miragesuperm1: np. after the holiday i'll just back it all up and do fresh.  should be easier than when i migrated from knoppmyth before05:21
Miragefree1: check http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Supported_hardware05:22
superm1Mirage, and moving from stable release to stable release with us should be sane05:22
superm1its just that we had so many big big development type changes during the alphas05:22
superm1that couldn't be represented nicely in packages05:22
Mirageyeah, mine's running openbox for the wdm05:23
Miragenot sure which alpha that was, but it's definitely an older one.05:24
free1mirage- thank you for that...05:24
MirageVia the mythbuntu repositories will it be possible in later released to upgrade with apt, or will it be an option on the live cd?05:25
free1but these hardware run similar chipsets05:25
superm1Mirage, well the mythbuntu repositories aren't used in the final release05:25
superm1Mirage, everything is in the archive05:25
superm1except for one theme05:25
Miragefree1: as a general rule, hardware encoders are supported.  Software ones are a bit trickier and can be problematic05:26
superm1Mirage, you can upgrade using upgrade-manager to 8.04 when its ready05:26
free1mirage- right.  therein lies the damn thing05:26
Mirageany idea when 2.6.23 will be available?05:26
superm1Mirage, 2.6.23 won't be in ubuntu05:27
superm1Mirage, 2.6.22 for gutsy and 2.6.24 for hardy05:27
Miragefree1: i tried 2-3 different software driven boards with little, they all had odd problems. Scratchy audio, artifacting picture, audio for the channel continuing when not viewing the 'stream'..05:28
free1mirage- throw me a bone-- do you know of a tuner/recorder that definitely works with myth, no problems05:29
superm1free1, any of the hauppauge pvr-xxx tuners05:29
superm1frank23, they are really the way to go if you want guaranteed problem free05:29
superm1free1, that is05:29
Miragehrm..may have to build it manually then.  supposedly the r8169 problems are fixed in 2.6.2305:29
Miragemy 500mce works great, and i haven't had any issues with my HDHomerun either if you want to go digital05:30
free1superm- but some hauppauge pvrxxx are know not to work05:32
superm1Mirage, r8169?05:32
Mirageget the cards, not the usb05:32
superm1free1, which ones?05:32
Miragesuperm1: realtek 8169.05:32
superm1Mirage, why not just grab the new 8169 source and build that then?05:32
superm1rather than the whole new kernel05:32
free1superm1- VR1500/160005:33
superm1free1, notice i only gave 3 x's :)05:33
Miragedidn't fix it..also using a compatible one from realtek didn't work either.  other people i've seen post on it have said the same, and that upgrading to .23 fixed it.05:33
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superm1Mirage, well that's pretty unfortunate05:34
free1superm1- ;). so you're telling me that all wintv pvr pcmcia are a go??05:34
superm1free1, hehe05:34
superm1free1, okay here's some exact numbers that i know work well05:35
superm1150,250,350,50005:35
superm1k :)05:35
free1superm1- you the boss05:35
free1not to look a gift horse in the mouth, by no means...05:36
free1superm1- are these digital or analog?05:36
superm1all analog05:36
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superm1if you want digital, like Mirage said, hdhomerun05:36
superm1is the way to go05:36
superm1i've got one myself, and i love it05:36
free1sorry for the noob question05:36
free1is that a model, or a manufacturer?05:36
Miragehttp://www.silicondust.com/05:37
MirageI think I got mine for $169 and free shipping05:37
free1uhhh, no dice05:37
free1I'm looking at maximum bulk of a pcmcia05:37
superm1you mean size?05:38
Miragewhat are you using for the box? mini-itx?05:38
free1yes05:38
free1I am a firm free-speech fundamentalish05:38
Miragehdhomerun is external networked (100base)05:39
superm1well its external05:39
superm1so you can plug it anywhere in your network05:39
free1fundamentalist05:39
free1not free beer05:39
free1but that 169,05:39
free1dang05:39
superm12 tuners05:39
free1no pcmcia card that is also digital that works fine out there?05:39
Mirageand you can watch tv from it on any box connected to the network via VLC05:40
superm1free1, you mean PCI05:40
* Mirage isn't familiar with any05:40
superm1or you actually talking pcmcia05:40
free1I'm talking the credit card sized one that fits in the laptop05:41
superm1oh that's quite a different story05:42
free1I see05:42
superm1i can't tell you any analog or digital pcmcia tuners that for sure will be working05:42
superm1at least none that i'm familiar with05:42
superm1the best way to determine if one you have in mind will work is to refer to www.linuxtv.org05:42
Miragefree1: are you planning to run front/backend on the same box? what processor will ytou be running?05:48
free1yes, celeron05:48
free1I'll be doing light recording05:48
Miragespeed?05:48
Miragehopefully at least a 1.4 to be front/backend05:49
free1umm, good question... one sec05:49
free1I think so05:50
free1it's a toshiba  satellite l3505:50
free1I've got the front and back end installed and up05:50
free1the tuner card looked like it was golden05:51
Mirageso a laptop?05:51
free1then at the channal scan05:51
free1darkness05:51
free1yes. by all means- a laptop\05:51
Mirageoh, i thought you said it was a mini-itx box when i asked earlier.05:52
free1no. must be someone else05:52
free1laptop or bust05:52
Miragei think i'm gonna have to say good luck on that then.  better to get an older desktop and set it up as a dedicated backend, then just used the live cd as a frontend05:57
Mirageon the laptop05:57
superm1or even do a frontend install on the laptop05:58
superm1that's the reason for the different options :)05:58
Mirageyeah, it's a pretty light install05:59
free1good luck to me.  I'm out06:13
* Solar_ squatts down and poops on his laptop06:50
Solar_Im running out of ideas here..  Im using the ATi drivers on my Dell Latitude C610 Laptop..  Myth frontend runs just fine until I play a video and then I get the blue screen, sound works though..  so its playing the video sound only..  I changed the bit to 16 and that should have helped, but didn't..  I added the overlay to xorg.conf still no good07:41
superm1HD?07:48
Solar_Hiya superm1 not hd07:51
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superm1Solarbaby, oh its you.  I need you to comment on that pvr-350 bug07:52
superm1Solarbaby, its been a long time trying to get it through07:52
superm1so i need someone who its worked for to comment on it still07:52
superm1https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/158562/07:52
Solarbabyabsolutely..  sorry I've not spoken up much lately07:52
superm1i've been missing too07:53
superm1i've got a lot going on07:53
Solarbabysuperm1: I'd prolly start a new drug addiction if I were in your shoes07:53
superm1haha07:55
superm1well so about your current issue, fglrx or open source?07:56
Solarbabysuperm1: what should I say..  I ran the patch and my Hauppauge 350 finally works!07:57
superm1Solarbaby, say that you used the package from the PPA and that it works yeah07:57
SolarbabyThanks..  Im writing it now07:57
Solarbabyfinally done..  Okay Im using opensource drivers..  Ati07:59
superm1can you use fglrx by chance?07:59
Solarbabywith the Ati driver I even get TV out working which is a must!  everything works great, cept when I play a video in mythtv07:59
SolarbabyI can try, but I wouldn't know how to get tv out working with that07:59
superm1you can get tv out with the open source driver?08:01
superm1what video card model is that?08:01
SolarbabyIm using the ati driver08:01
Solarbabyas far as I know its open source08:01
Solarbabyits the default driver08:01
Solarbabytv out worked when I apt-get install ativideoout08:02
Solarbabysorry atitvout08:02
superm1right what model video card though08:02
superm1do you know?08:02
Solarbabythen i rad atitvout -f t and it displayed through the svideo like it should08:02
Solarbabyim not really sure08:03
Solarbabyits a laptop08:03
SolarbabyDell Latitude C61008:03
superm1well check out lspci08:03
Solarbabyok08:03
Solarbabythanks for the command, you know I never remember those08:03
SolarbabyIt registers as a Ati Radeon Mobility M6 Ly08:04
superm1okay then you are stuck with the open source ones then08:05
superm1oh you are using tv out... that's right08:05
superm1can you change the screen the overlay shows up on?08:05
SolarbabyI can change resolution08:06
Solarbabyand I changed depth to 1608:06
superm1you should be able to change overlay too somehow08:06
superm1i dont know how to offhand for that card08:06
Solarbabya whole installation ago I used the Radeon driver instead of the Ati, put the depth at 16 and video played..  couldn't duplicate that this time though08:07
superm1its likely the tv out doing it08:07
superm1because the overlay is on the wrong monitor08:07
Solarbabycourse with the radeon driver I couldn't make tv out work08:07
SolarbabyI only have it setup to use 1 monitor08:09
Solarbabywhen I turn on tv out, laptop screen goes blank08:09
superm1but before you turn on tv out, the laptop screen should show the picture fine right?08:10
Solarbabyanyways video files dont play on either the lcd screen or the tv08:10
Solarbabynope..  never plays videos.. just gives blue screen.. but I can hear the video audio playing just fine08:10
superm1what resolution is the laptop running at?08:11
Solarbaby1024x768@6008:11
superm1can you try lowering it?08:13
superm1to maybe 800x600 and see if it persists?08:13
Solarbabywhen I lower it to 800x600 and load the mythtv frontend, it loads, i can't see any of the menu commands but they are all there.. so knowing that, I press enter until I get into play video08:14
Solarbabyand I get a blue screen and audio08:14
Solarbabynothing crashes so thats kinda good i guess08:15
Solarbabyif I could see the video i'd be set..  but its just boring blue08:15
superm1hm08:16
superm1do other media playback apps do this too?08:16
superm1can you try like mplayer or xine etc08:16
Solarbabyim trying every resolution I have currently..  although if i run 640x480 that could crash the system08:16
Solarbabyyeah..  i'll copy a video  file over to the local hard drive and give it a shot08:17
Solarbabyvlc has the same problem08:26
superm1well i'm gonna have to hit the hay right now08:27
superm1i'll have to toy with more on it this week08:27
Solarbabyalright..  I'll most likely need you on this one08:27
Solarbabysure thing..  have a good night buddy08:27
superm1post to the forums though08:27
superm1there are a lot of other bright people showing up now08:28
Solarbabyalright will do08:28
superm1and helping out08:28
Solarbabynot too many compare to you08:28
Solarbabybesides I like you08:28
Solarbaby*Wink*08:28
superm1well thanks. but i eat, sleep, and breathe this development stuff :)08:28
superm1okay nn08:29
SolarbabyNight!08:29
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camelreefhello all13:05
camelreefI have questions about the weekly builds13:09
camelreefhow big of a risk to the WAF is using -trunk if the main thing you want are Storage groups?13:46
camelreefthe box is a combined back+front system - http://www.youplala.net/linux/home-theater-pc13:47
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MythbuntuGuest01he ho.19:04
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samson--greetings19:06
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tgm4883_laptopoanszwoa, did you have a question?19:09
oanszwoa what could be my problem, if can´t change the channels the known way?19:09
oanszwoaxawtv can handle my 2 analog PCI TV-cards.19:10
oanszwoahad to create /etc/modprobe.d/bttv with -> options bttv card=54 tuner=519:10
oanszwoafor the second card - the first one was detected right.19:11
oanszwoa..and, it´s seems to lag often - don´t think, that´s some time-shifting things..19:12
oanszwoatgm4883_laptop, do you have an answer? :)19:13
oanszwoa..or any somment? ;)19:13
oanszwoasorry - comment..19:13
oanszwoaswitching the channels in the EPG also lags terrible.19:16
oanszwoai was sure to run into trouble with the hardware - but that it would be a problem to change the channels..... - no.19:17
oanszwoais it possible, that i also have problems with the drivers of my video card?19:19
oanszwoaare there aby other Mythbuntu irc channels out there?19:29
samson--i think this is the official one19:36
samson--it is just awfully quiet today19:36
beavistgm4883, you're working on a trayicon for mythtv?19:42
beavistgm4883, I've done some initial work here19:42
tgm4883_laptopyes19:42
tgm4883_laptopa backend notifier19:43
beavistgm4883, it already shows when it's recording something19:43
beavistgm4883, a red icon for recording and a black one for idle19:43
tgm4883_laptopinteresting19:43
tgm4883_laptopthats half of what im working on19:43
beavistgm4883, it's in python, what's your solution?19:43
tgm4883_laptopwell currently i only have a gui19:43
tgm4883_laptopno backend to that yet19:43
tgm4883_laptopcurrently it's just a gui built in glade-3, with a python coding yet to be started19:45
beavistgm4883, my "backend part" is quite simple, but it already shows something19:46
tgm4883_laptopsweet are you polling the status port?19:46
beavistgm4883, I was just looking for an idea which colors to take for what19:46
beavisIt's actually the xml part of the status port I'm talkting to19:47
tgm4883_laptopright19:47
beavisI use sax to parse it19:47
beavisdo you know which colors MS uses for their media center tray icon?19:48
tgm4883_laptopno19:48
tgm4883_laptopalthough I could check19:48
tgm4883_laptoplater19:48
tgm4883_laptopat work we have a few systems with MCE19:49
beavisI guess it's red for recording19:49
tgm4883_laptopprobably19:49
tgm4883_laptopi would think though19:49
beavisbut what could be yellow/green be used for?19:49
tgm4883_laptopthat yellow be used for recording19:49
tgm4883_laptopred for not available (ie offline)19:49
tgm4883_laptopand green for free19:49
tgm4883_laptopso your looking at the xml status port on the master backend right?19:50
tgm4883_laptopbeavis, would it be possible to see this in action?19:52
beavisyes, we of course can share the code19:52
beavisI'll put it on google code19:52
beavisbest19:52
tgm4883_laptopok19:52
tgm4883_laptopthanks19:52
tgm4883_laptophave you seen the blueprint that I am working on?19:53
beavisnope19:53
tgm4883_laptophttps://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec/mythbackend-notifier19:54
tgm4883_laptopit's pretty much exactly what you have, with the addition of some error resolving19:54
tgm4883_laptopi think*19:54
beavisyes, great19:59
beavisI don't have a gui for the prefs yet, everything's hard coded at the moment...20:01
tgm4883_laptopI think the important part is getting something that works, then adding features.  Sounds like yours is working?20:04
beavisyes, there's always a black icon if the BE is idle and a red one if it's recording20:04
tgm4883_laptophow often do you check the xml port?20:05
beavisit works for just one backend and one tv card so far, but it should be easy to add some more features since it's all in the xml file20:06
beavisduration = 15 # seconds20:06
tgm4883_laptopok20:06
tgm4883_laptophave you experienced any backend crashing?20:06
tgm4883_laptopthere was some talk of the backend crashing if the xml port gets hit too often20:07
agrumanheya, i have a dvb-c adapter and everything seems ok in dmesg, scan finds channels, and czap locks, but im unable to get any video, from what i understand im supposed to be able to do "cat /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 > file.mpeg". Is that correct? That file always becomes 0 bytes, and mplayer and klear prduces no video as well.20:07
chuk_barnhow does the XMLTVID field in mythconverg.channel get populated?20:08
chuk_barnother than manually20:09
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tgm4883_laptopdoesn't it get populated by mythfilldatabase?20:09
chukthats what I figured, but is it just based on channel number?20:09
tgm4883_laptopchannel number and location I believe20:10
tgm4883_laptopmaybe callsign too20:10
chukand is it a one time thing, or will it overwrite it?20:10
chukI have some channels that have matching records in my schedulesdirect subscription20:10
chukbut they aren't getting an XMLTVID20:11
tgm4883_laptopnot sure on that, i know there is an update option when scanning, but idk about mythfilldatabase20:11
chukI can manually assign it20:11
chukbut thats a pain20:11
tgm4883_laptopbeavis, off to lunch, can you email me a link to that google code when it gets up?20:11
beavistgm4883, I just have to put my kids to bed... talk to you later20:12
tgm4883_laptopk20:12
oanszwoai´m sure that i checked the box for XMLTV support on installation.20:18
oanszwoabut i can´t select something like that in the backend settings.20:19
oanszwoawhere can i activate this later ?20:19
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Miragesetting up the program guide pull is in the backend config (mythtv-setup)20:33
oanszwoawhat i can start over the configuration center - THE backend configuration menu?20:36
oanszwoaafter loading new video drivers, it seems to lag less than before.20:38
oanszwoamirage, can´t find it - got tomatoes on my eyes...20:42
MythbuntuGuest72hi20:43
MythbuntuGuest72my son put mythbuntu over ubuntu bay mistake can we change back ..?20:44
MythbuntuGuest72you guys suck20:45
Solarbabysuperm1: I had the Dell C610 Video working with playing videos at 24 bit depth..  but its incredibly unstable20:46
JThundleyhahahaha20:46
Solarbabysuperm1: the ATi driver sucks20:46
vwmoabHow can I do an on demand (one touch) record and stop it from starting a new file every half an hour? I am still fairly new to mythtv and i find myself getting lost in the menus....anyone?21:35
oanszwoavwmoah, only bots in here... sorry. :(21:40
oanszwoabye bye..21:40
tgm4883_laptop?21:41
tgm4883_laptopvwmoab, so you want a single file that records indefinetly?21:41
vwmoabtgm4883_laptop:i want to initiate the record using the 'R' key and i want it to record to a single file until i tell it to stop21:43
tgm4883_laptopok, and currently it chops it into 30 minute chunks?21:43
vwmoabtgm4883:yeah...i did an on demand record of a flick  and when i went to rename it and move it to my repository i found that i had a bunh of half hour chunks21:45
tgm4883_laptopvwmoab, ok, i'll think about it.  Time to go home. Back in about 20 min21:47
directhexvwmoab, you don't have a program guide set up?22:04
JThundleyhe's recording from ondemand22:05
JThundleyI.e. no schedule22:05
directhexmyth's not designed to be a vcr, it's designed to be a pvr22:06
JThundleyvwmoab: you could bypass mythtv altogether if you wanted22:06
JThundleycat /dev/video0 > bababooey.mpg22:06
JThundleyI would look into filesystem limitations too, although I think all linux filesystems allow for ginormous files22:07
vwmoabsorry guys...i stepped away for a minute...no i dont have a program guide setup....i am working with dishtv....basically what i am trying to do is offload the content from the dish pvr by simply watching it and recording it ondemand with myth22:10
directhexmyth's not designed to be a vcr, it's designed to be a pvr22:10
directhexi think you can configure somewhere how long it considers an unknown program to be, but i couldn't say where precisely22:11
vwmoabdirecthex:yeah i got that the first time....i am thinking that JThundley's suggestion might bear fruit...i like the simplicity...22:13
JThundleyjust don't forget to kill it ;)22:13
directhexvwmoab, his suggestion is "myth's not designed to be a vcr, it's designed to be a pvr" so not using it at all22:13
vwmoabdirecthex:i got that too22:14
JThundleyyou can do a manual schedule in mythtv22:14
JThundleyit's just like you would do with a VCR I think22:14
JThundleyyou set a start time, stop time and channel22:15
JThundleyI've never used it22:15
vwmoabJThundley:yeah thats what i was preparing to do....I just want to get the content off...i dont necessarily need to use myth to do it...it just seemed like i could....i like the cat /dev/video0 > filename.mpg...the thing i wonder about that method is what will its default bitrate be...i'd like it to be around a gig an hour which as i understand it is around 220022:18
JThundleyhmmmm, with cat you wouldn't be able to control stuff like that22:19
JThundleyI don't know what the default is22:19
JThundleyif you're handy with mencoder I bet you could make it work22:19
vwmoabJThundley:yeah...well i will run a few tests and see what i come up with...thanks to you and the others for your suggestions22:20
JThundleysure thing22:20
tgm4883_laptopman, my 20 minutes aways turns into an hour22:59
williammandaif you could just get your bank to do that :)23:00
directhexwilliammanda, do what? make you queue for 3 times longer? mine does it already!23:01
williammandasorry meant bank account......grow23:02
williammandawhat is the next ubuntu release?23:03
williammandawho has a firewire-enabled cable or satellite tuner?23:09
tgm4883_laptopi use firewire to stream my motorola 620023:13
williammandais that a cable modem?23:13
tgm4883_laptopno STB23:13
williammandado you get HDTV from it?23:14
tgm4883_laptopyes23:14
williammandacan you do the same with satellite?23:14
tgm4883_laptopafaik, unfortunatly not.  The laws that apply to cable companies do not apply to satellite transmissions.  IE, i don't think they are required to give you a working firewire port23:15
williammandaok23:16
williammandawhat is UPNP?23:16
tgm4883_laptopUniversal Plug And Play23:16
williammandaI have been reading the mythbuntu site :)23:16
tgm4883_laptoplink?23:16
williammandayes link23:16
williammandahow would you use UPNP?23:17
tgm4883_laptoperr, can i get a link to what your reading so I can better explain?23:17
williammandahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV23:18
tgm4883_laptopah23:19
beavistgm4883_laptop, I just moved  from SAX to DOM, So the script is broken at the moment23:19
tgm4883_laptopk23:19
beavistgm4883_laptop, I'll put it online when it'll work again23:20
tgm4883_laptopwilliammanda, there are certain media devices that are made by some companies that connect to UPNP media servers23:20
tgm4883_laptopUPNP is a protocol allowing this connectivity23:20
tgm4883_laptopfor instance, here is a review and picture of one23:21
tgm4883_laptophttp://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=321723:21
foxxbuntutgm4883_laptop, what is the cmd to kill another irc instance (my main id thinks its online still)23:23
directhexif the nick is registered with nickserv, try identifying23:23
tgm4883_laptopare you looking to kick it?23:23
foxxbuntutgm4883 yes23:23
tgm4883_laptophmm23:24
tgm4883_laptopyea try identifing23:24
directhex/msg nickserv ghost registeredNickName NicknamePassword23:24
tgm4883_laptopcause you sould be able to overpower the other one23:24
tgm4883_laptopproviding it is not actually online right now23:24
=== foxxbuntu is now known as foxbuntu
foxbuntuYAY23:25
foxbuntuthanks directhex23:25
foxbuntumuch better23:25
* directhex knows all, /me sees all23:25
directhexthankfully, /me does not smell all23:25
* foxbuntu is all23:25
=== Sphagnum is now known as Tari
williammandawhat is going to be the next linux kernel in ubuntu?23:51
* tgm4883_laptop shrugs23:51
williammandaor where can I go to find it23:51
tgm4883_laptop#ubuntu23:51
williammandaalright sorry23:51
tgm4883_laptopmaybe the ubuntu launchpad page23:51
tgm4883_laptopor maybe the UCS boston page23:52
tgm4883_laptopor maybe superm1 knows23:52
williammandathe reason I ask is .....one of my tuners is added to the future kernel23:52
tgm4883_laptopwhich one?23:52
williammandahold on23:53
tgm4883_laptoplooks like 2.6.24 will be in hardy23:53
williammandaPCIe DViCO FusionHDTV5 Express23:55
williammandaI have had this thing for over a year and can't use it23:55
williammandai bought it right before I switched to linux23:56
williammandaworked great in windows23:56
williammandaworks in 2.6.24 kernel23:56
tgm4883_laptopwell according to the launchpad page thats the kernel for hardy23:57
williammandaok ty23:57
williammandai wasn't trying to be off topic23:57
tgm4883_laptopis the express version different than the regular version?  I was under the impression that it worked23:57
tgm4883_laptopyou weren't too OT, but I was just saying that I didn't know off the top of my head23:58
williammandaI couldn't tell the difference between the two23:58

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