[02:09] <free1> you know what is weird
[02:10] <free1> when prompted to select my remote control, it has the manufacturer listed
[02:10] <free1> but it appears it cannot interface with the card
[02:10] <free1> even though the drivers appear loaded
[02:10] <free1> Phillips chipset
[02:11] <free1> on a Chronos pcmicia card
[02:13] <free1> ya mean
[02:23] <mavric> wassup
[02:24] <mavric> downloading the mythbuntu iso now
[02:25] <MythbuntuGuest02> Anybody know why my channel names aren't getting fetched?
[02:25] <MythbuntuGuest02> information is there, just no names on most. For some reason HBO and Cspan show up fine
[02:25] <free1> guest02-- what tuner card are you using?
[02:26] <mavric> wintvgo
[02:29] <free1> oh, so... desktop
[02:29] <free1> ?
[02:29] <mavric> ya
[02:30] <free1> seems like haupauge is the way to go.
[02:31] <mavric> this will be my first attempt at mythtv
[02:31] <mavric> maybe its a myth haha
[02:32] <free1> true, true. ha
[02:33] <MythbuntuGuest02> whoops I got distracted, Hauppauge PVR-150
[02:34] <free1> 02-  wow, and I thought the haupage pvr-150 was problem free...
[02:35] <free1> ... I'm guessing that it's a channel feeder issue
[02:35] <free1> and not neccessarily that of mythtv
[02:36] <MythbuntuGuest02> aw man, that's no fun
[02:36] <free1> yeah, at least it's not mythtv
[02:37] <MythbuntuGuest02> I think I actually saw the same issue posted somewhere, but I can't remember what the answer was and find it again
[02:37] <MythbuntuGuest02> I had an old mythtv installation I hadn't used in months, figured I could use a fresh reinstall and that maybe it would work
[02:38] <MythbuntuGuest02> but looks like I've hit the same problem
[02:40] <MythbuntuGuest02> ooh maybe I found it again
[02:42] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest02, where do you get your channel data from?
[02:51] <free1> good question.
[02:51] <free1> some sources are notorious for taking down the electronic availability of their feeds
[02:51] <free1> as has happened in my neck of the woods
[03:02] <Toxicity999> Anyone else on trunk builds noting freezes? >.>
[03:02] <Toxicity999> just started after todays uploads
[03:02]  * Toxicity999 attempts to ssh the box
[03:02] <Toxicity999> Locked solid.
[03:03] <Toxicity999> Probably upstream anyway, trunk does that occasionally.
[03:13] <MythbuntuGuest24> alright this the guy who was getting no channel names
[03:13] <MythbuntuGuest24> turns out if I delete all the channel info and fetch from the source WITHOUT scanning I get the info
[03:13] <MythbuntuGuest24> BUT
[03:13] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest24, where do you get your channel data from?
[03:13] <MythbuntuGuest24> the info is 2 channels off
[03:14] <tgm4883_laptop> where do you live?
[03:14] <MythbuntuGuest24> Connecticut
[03:14] <MythbuntuGuest24> and schedulesdirect
[03:15] <tgm4883_laptop> interesting
[03:16] <MythbuntuGuest24> also using PVR-150 if that's relevant
[03:32] <rsriverrat_>  /msg nickserv link rsriverrat boozer70
[03:39] <superm1> foxbuntu___, ?
[05:01] <Mirage> has anyone done an upgrade to the latest release? I'm not seeing anything in the documentation  about it.
[05:02] <superm1> latest release of mythbuntu?
[05:02] <Mirage> yeah
[05:03] <Mirage> i don't want to just blindly do a dist-upgrade and wind up with the full gnome/kde, etc for an htpc
[05:03] <Mirage> granted it can all be stripped back off
[05:05] <superm1> what'd you start with?
[05:06] <Mirage> i'm running the previous release atm.  i've updated mythtv itself independently (following trunk)
[05:06] <superm1> well what od you mean previous
[05:07] <superm1> like alpha1 previous?
[05:07] <superm1> or like release candidate
[05:07] <Mirage> worse case i can just dump the db, backup all the .confs and do a fresh install..
[05:07] <Mirage> alpha
[05:10] <superm1> alpha...
[05:10] <superm1> which one
[05:10] <superm1> i'm asking so specifically to let you know which is the easier route
[05:11] <superm1> there was a ton of changes between some of the earlier ones
[05:11] <Mirage> i don't know for sure..i'd have to dig the disc. i already nuked the iso when i got the latest release
[05:11] <Mirage> mine has a different window manager, doesn't seem to include MCC, etc
[05:13] <free1> are phillips chipset ok to use?
[05:13] <superm1> yeah you're using one of the much earlier ones then
[05:13] <superm1> probably alpha 2 or 3
[05:13] <superm1> alpha4 would have been a pretty smooth upgrade, but i'll expect some complications with alpha3
[05:14] <Mirage> so apt-get dist-upgrade isn't an option and i'd probably just be better off to back up all the custom configs and db, install fresh, and import it all back in
[05:19] <Mirage> free1: for..?
[05:19] <superm1> Mirage, well
[05:20] <superm1> here's what i say you do
[05:20] <superm1> back up the db, the custom stuff and ~
[05:20] <free1> mirage: for mythtv
[05:20] <superm1> Mirage, and give it a shot
[05:20] <superm1> Mirage, the upgrade
[05:20] <free1> mirage- sorry I didn't know that was for me.
[05:20] <superm1> Mirage, after the upgrade finishes, make sure mythbuntu-desktop is installed
[05:20] <Mirage> free1: tuner chipset or which?
[05:20] <superm1> Mirage, and make sure that your log in session is the "Mythbuntu" session
[05:20] <free1> tuner/recoder chipset
[05:21] <superm1> Mirage, and if you have ubuntu-mythtv-frontend installed, remove it
[05:21] <superm1> Mirage, with any luck that should cover your cases
[05:21] <Mirage> superm1: np. after the holiday i'll just back it all up and do fresh.  should be easier than when i migrated from knoppmyth before
[05:22] <Mirage> free1: check http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Supported_hardware
[05:22] <superm1> Mirage, and moving from stable release to stable release with us should be sane
[05:22] <superm1> its just that we had so many big big development type changes during the alphas
[05:22] <superm1> that couldn't be represented nicely in packages
[05:23] <Mirage> yeah, mine's running openbox for the wdm
[05:24] <Mirage> not sure which alpha that was, but it's definitely an older one.
[05:24] <free1> mirage- thank you for that...
[05:25] <Mirage> Via the mythbuntu repositories will it be possible in later released to upgrade with apt, or will it be an option on the live cd?
[05:25] <free1> but these hardware run similar chipsets
[05:25] <superm1> Mirage, well the mythbuntu repositories aren't used in the final release
[05:25] <superm1> Mirage, everything is in the archive
[05:25] <superm1> except for one theme
[05:26] <Mirage> free1: as a general rule, hardware encoders are supported.  Software ones are a bit trickier and can be problematic
[05:26] <superm1> Mirage, you can upgrade using upgrade-manager to 8.04 when its ready
[05:26] <free1> mirage- right.  therein lies the damn thing
[05:26] <Mirage> any idea when 2.6.23 will be available?
[05:27] <superm1> Mirage, 2.6.23 won't be in ubuntu
[05:27] <superm1> Mirage, 2.6.22 for gutsy and 2.6.24 for hardy
[05:28] <Mirage> free1: i tried 2-3 different software driven boards with little, they all had odd problems. Scratchy audio, artifacting picture, audio for the channel continuing when not viewing the 'stream'..
[05:29] <free1> mirage- throw me a bone-- do you know of a tuner/recorder that definitely works with myth, no problems
[05:29] <superm1> free1, any of the hauppauge pvr-xxx tuners
[05:29] <superm1> frank23, they are really the way to go if you want guaranteed problem free
[05:29] <superm1> free1, that is
[05:29] <Mirage> hrm..may have to build it manually then.  supposedly the r8169 problems are fixed in 2.6.23
[05:30] <Mirage> my 500mce works great, and i haven't had any issues with my HDHomerun either if you want to go digital
[05:32] <free1> superm- but some hauppauge pvrxxx are know not to work
[05:32] <superm1> Mirage, r8169?
[05:32] <Mirage> get the cards, not the usb
[05:32] <superm1> free1, which ones?
[05:32] <Mirage> superm1: realtek 8169.
[05:32] <superm1> Mirage, why not just grab the new 8169 source and build that then?
[05:32] <superm1> rather than the whole new kernel
[05:33] <free1> superm1- VR1500/1600
[05:33] <superm1> free1, notice i only gave 3 x's :)
[05:33] <Mirage> didn't fix it..also using a compatible one from realtek didn't work either.  other people i've seen post on it have said the same, and that upgrading to .23 fixed it.
[05:34] <superm1> Mirage, well that's pretty unfortunate
[05:34] <free1> superm1- ;). so you're telling me that all wintv pvr pcmcia are a go??
[05:34] <superm1> free1, hehe
[05:35] <superm1> free1, okay here's some exact numbers that i know work well
[05:35] <superm1> 150,250,350,500
[05:35] <superm1> k :)
[05:35] <free1> superm1- you the boss
[05:36] <free1> not to look a gift horse in the mouth, by no means...
[05:36] <free1> superm1- are these digital or analog?
[05:36] <superm1> all analog
[05:36] <superm1> if you want digital, like Mirage said, hdhomerun
[05:36] <superm1> is the way to go
[05:36] <superm1> i've got one myself, and i love it
[05:36] <free1> sorry for the noob question
[05:36] <free1> is that a model, or a manufacturer?
[05:37] <Mirage> http://www.silicondust.com/
[05:37] <Mirage> I think I got mine for $169 and free shipping
[05:37] <free1> uhhh, no dice
[05:37] <free1> I'm looking at maximum bulk of a pcmcia
[05:38] <superm1> you mean size?
[05:38] <Mirage> what are you using for the box? mini-itx?
[05:38] <free1> yes
[05:38] <free1> I am a firm free-speech fundamentalish
[05:39] <Mirage> hdhomerun is external networked (100base)
[05:39] <superm1> well its external
[05:39] <superm1> so you can plug it anywhere in your network
[05:39] <free1> fundamentalist
[05:39] <free1> not free beer
[05:39] <free1> but that 169,
[05:39] <free1> dang
[05:39] <superm1> 2 tuners
[05:39] <free1> no pcmcia card that is also digital that works fine out there?
[05:40] <Mirage> and you can watch tv from it on any box connected to the network via VLC
[05:40] <superm1> free1, you mean PCI
[05:40]  * Mirage isn't familiar with any
[05:40] <superm1> or you actually talking pcmcia
[05:41] <free1> I'm talking the credit card sized one that fits in the laptop
[05:42] <superm1> oh that's quite a different story
[05:42] <free1> I see
[05:42] <superm1> i can't tell you any analog or digital pcmcia tuners that for sure will be working
[05:42] <superm1> at least none that i'm familiar with
[05:42] <superm1> the best way to determine if one you have in mind will work is to refer to www.linuxtv.org
[05:48] <Mirage> free1: are you planning to run front/backend on the same box? what processor will ytou be running?
[05:48] <free1> yes, celeron
[05:48] <free1> I'll be doing light recording
[05:48] <Mirage> speed?
[05:49] <Mirage> hopefully at least a 1.4 to be front/backend
[05:49] <free1> umm, good question... one sec
[05:50] <free1> I think so
[05:50] <free1> it's a toshiba  satellite l35
[05:50] <free1> I've got the front and back end installed and up
[05:51] <free1> the tuner card looked like it was golden
[05:51] <Mirage> so a laptop?
[05:51] <free1> then at the channal scan
[05:51] <free1> darkness
[05:51] <free1> yes. by all means- a laptop\
[05:52] <Mirage> oh, i thought you said it was a mini-itx box when i asked earlier.
[05:52] <free1> no. must be someone else
[05:52] <free1> laptop or bust
[05:57] <Mirage> i think i'm gonna have to say good luck on that then.  better to get an older desktop and set it up as a dedicated backend, then just used the live cd as a frontend
[05:57] <Mirage> on the laptop
[05:58] <superm1> or even do a frontend install on the laptop
[05:58] <superm1> that's the reason for the different options :)
[05:59] <Mirage> yeah, it's a pretty light install
[06:13] <free1> good luck to me.  I'm out
[06:50]  * Solar_ squatts down and poops on his laptop
[07:41] <Solar_> Im running out of ideas here..  Im using the ATi drivers on my Dell Latitude C610 Laptop..  Myth frontend runs just fine until I play a video and then I get the blue screen, sound works though..  so its playing the video sound only..  I changed the bit to 16 and that should have helped, but didn't..  I added the overlay to xorg.conf still no good
[07:48] <superm1> HD?
[07:51] <Solar_> Hiya superm1 not hd
[07:52] <superm1> Solarbaby, oh its you.  I need you to comment on that pvr-350 bug
[07:52] <superm1> Solarbaby, its been a long time trying to get it through
[07:52] <superm1> so i need someone who its worked for to comment on it still
[07:52] <superm1> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/158562/
[07:52] <Solarbaby> absolutely..  sorry I've not spoken up much lately
[07:53] <superm1> i've been missing too
[07:53] <superm1> i've got a lot going on
[07:53] <Solarbaby> superm1: I'd prolly start a new drug addiction if I were in your shoes
[07:55] <superm1> haha
[07:56] <superm1> well so about your current issue, fglrx or open source?
[07:57] <Solarbaby> superm1: what should I say..  I ran the patch and my Hauppauge 350 finally works!
[07:57] <superm1> Solarbaby, say that you used the package from the PPA and that it works yeah
[07:57] <Solarbaby> Thanks..  Im writing it now
[07:59] <Solarbaby> finally done..  Okay Im using opensource drivers..  Ati
[07:59] <superm1> can you use fglrx by chance?
[07:59] <Solarbaby> with the Ati driver I even get TV out working which is a must!  everything works great, cept when I play a video in mythtv
[07:59] <Solarbaby> I can try, but I wouldn't know how to get tv out working with that
[08:01] <superm1> you can get tv out with the open source driver?
[08:01] <superm1> what video card model is that?
[08:01] <Solarbaby> Im using the ati driver
[08:01] <Solarbaby> as far as I know its open source
[08:01] <Solarbaby> its the default driver
[08:02] <Solarbaby> tv out worked when I apt-get install ativideoout
[08:02] <Solarbaby> sorry atitvout
[08:02] <superm1> right what model video card though
[08:02] <superm1> do you know?
[08:02] <Solarbaby> then i rad atitvout -f t and it displayed through the svideo like it should
[08:03] <Solarbaby> im not really sure
[08:03] <Solarbaby> its a laptop
[08:03] <Solarbaby> Dell Latitude C610
[08:03] <superm1> well check out lspci
[08:03] <Solarbaby> ok
[08:03] <Solarbaby> thanks for the command, you know I never remember those
[08:04] <Solarbaby> It registers as a Ati Radeon Mobility M6 Ly
[08:05] <superm1> okay then you are stuck with the open source ones then
[08:05] <superm1> oh you are using tv out... that's right
[08:05] <superm1> can you change the screen the overlay shows up on?
[08:06] <Solarbaby> I can change resolution
[08:06] <Solarbaby> and I changed depth to 16
[08:06] <superm1> you should be able to change overlay too somehow
[08:06] <superm1> i dont know how to offhand for that card
[08:07] <Solarbaby> a whole installation ago I used the Radeon driver instead of the Ati, put the depth at 16 and video played..  couldn't duplicate that this time though
[08:07] <superm1> its likely the tv out doing it
[08:07] <superm1> because the overlay is on the wrong monitor
[08:07] <Solarbaby> course with the radeon driver I couldn't make tv out work
[08:09] <Solarbaby> I only have it setup to use 1 monitor
[08:09] <Solarbaby> when I turn on tv out, laptop screen goes blank
[08:10] <superm1> but before you turn on tv out, the laptop screen should show the picture fine right?
[08:10] <Solarbaby> anyways video files dont play on either the lcd screen or the tv
[08:10] <Solarbaby> nope..  never plays videos.. just gives blue screen.. but I can hear the video audio playing just fine
[08:11] <superm1> what resolution is the laptop running at?
[08:11] <Solarbaby> 1024x768@60
[08:13] <superm1> can you try lowering it?
[08:13] <superm1> to maybe 800x600 and see if it persists?
[08:14] <Solarbaby> when I lower it to 800x600 and load the mythtv frontend, it loads, i can't see any of the menu commands but they are all there.. so knowing that, I press enter until I get into play video
[08:14] <Solarbaby> and I get a blue screen and audio
[08:15] <Solarbaby> nothing crashes so thats kinda good i guess
[08:15] <Solarbaby> if I could see the video i'd be set..  but its just boring blue
[08:16] <superm1> hm
[08:16] <superm1> do other media playback apps do this too?
[08:16] <superm1> can you try like mplayer or xine etc
[08:16] <Solarbaby> im trying every resolution I have currently..  although if i run 640x480 that could crash the system
[08:17] <Solarbaby> yeah..  i'll copy a video  file over to the local hard drive and give it a shot
[08:26] <Solarbaby> vlc has the same problem
[08:27] <superm1> well i'm gonna have to hit the hay right now
[08:27] <superm1> i'll have to toy with more on it this week
[08:27] <Solarbaby> alright..  I'll most likely need you on this one
[08:27] <Solarbaby> sure thing..  have a good night buddy
[08:27] <superm1> post to the forums though
[08:28] <superm1> there are a lot of other bright people showing up now
[08:28] <Solarbaby> alright will do
[08:28] <superm1> and helping out
[08:28] <Solarbaby> not too many compare to you
[08:28] <Solarbaby> besides I like you
[08:28] <Solarbaby> *Wink*
[08:28] <superm1> well thanks. but i eat, sleep, and breathe this development stuff :)
[08:29] <superm1> okay nn
[08:29] <Solarbaby> Night!
[13:05] <camelreef> hello all
[13:09] <camelreef> I have questions about the weekly builds
[13:46] <camelreef> how big of a risk to the WAF is using -trunk if the main thing you want are Storage groups?
[13:47] <camelreef> the box is a combined back+front system - http://www.youplala.net/linux/home-theater-pc
[19:04] <MythbuntuGuest01> he ho.
[19:06] <samson--> greetings
[19:09] <tgm4883_laptop> oanszwoa, did you have a question?
[19:09] <oanszwoa>  what could be my problem, if can´t change the channels the known way?
[19:10] <oanszwoa> xawtv can handle my 2 analog PCI TV-cards.
[19:10] <oanszwoa> had to create /etc/modprobe.d/bttv with -> options bttv card=54 tuner=5
[19:11] <oanszwoa> for the second card - the first one was detected right.
[19:12] <oanszwoa> ..and, it´s seems to lag often - don´t think, that´s some time-shifting things..
[19:13] <oanszwoa> tgm4883_laptop, do you have an answer? :)
[19:13] <oanszwoa> ..or any somment? ;)
[19:13] <oanszwoa> sorry - comment..
[19:16] <oanszwoa> switching the channels in the EPG also lags terrible.
[19:17] <oanszwoa> i was sure to run into trouble with the hardware - but that it would be a problem to change the channels..... - no.
[19:19] <oanszwoa> is it possible, that i also have problems with the drivers of my video card?
[19:29] <oanszwoa> are there aby other Mythbuntu irc channels out there?
[19:36] <samson--> i think this is the official one
[19:36] <samson--> it is just awfully quiet today
[19:42] <beavis> tgm4883, you're working on a trayicon for mythtv?
[19:42] <beavis> tgm4883, I've done some initial work here
[19:42] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[19:43] <tgm4883_laptop> a backend notifier
[19:43] <beavis> tgm4883, it already shows when it's recording something
[19:43] <beavis> tgm4883, a red icon for recording and a black one for idle
[19:43] <tgm4883_laptop> interesting
[19:43] <tgm4883_laptop> thats half of what im working on
[19:43] <beavis> tgm4883, it's in python, what's your solution?
[19:43] <tgm4883_laptop> well currently i only have a gui
[19:43] <tgm4883_laptop> no backend to that yet
[19:45] <tgm4883_laptop> currently it's just a gui built in glade-3, with a python coding yet to be started
[19:46] <beavis> tgm4883, my "backend part" is quite simple, but it already shows something
[19:46] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet are you polling the status port?
[19:46] <beavis> tgm4883, I was just looking for an idea which colors to take for what
[19:47] <beavis> It's actually the xml part of the status port I'm talkting to
[19:47] <tgm4883_laptop> right
[19:47] <beavis> I use sax to parse it
[19:48] <beavis> do you know which colors MS uses for their media center tray icon?
[19:48] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[19:48] <tgm4883_laptop> although I could check
[19:48] <tgm4883_laptop> later
[19:49] <tgm4883_laptop> at work we have a few systems with MCE
[19:49] <beavis> I guess it's red for recording
[19:49] <tgm4883_laptop> probably
[19:49] <tgm4883_laptop> i would think though
[19:49] <beavis> but what could be yellow/green be used for?
[19:49] <tgm4883_laptop> that yellow be used for recording
[19:49] <tgm4883_laptop> red for not available (ie offline)
[19:49] <tgm4883_laptop> and green for free
[19:50] <tgm4883_laptop> so your looking at the xml status port on the master backend right?
[19:52] <tgm4883_laptop> beavis, would it be possible to see this in action?
[19:52] <beavis> yes, we of course can share the code
[19:52] <beavis> I'll put it on google code
[19:52] <beavis> best
[19:52] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[19:52] <tgm4883_laptop> thanks
[19:53] <tgm4883_laptop> have you seen the blueprint that I am working on?
[19:53] <beavis> nope
[19:54] <tgm4883_laptop> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec/mythbackend-notifier
[19:54] <tgm4883_laptop> it's pretty much exactly what you have, with the addition of some error resolving
[19:54] <tgm4883_laptop> i think*
[19:59] <beavis> yes, great
[20:01] <beavis> I don't have a gui for the prefs yet, everything's hard coded at the moment...
[20:04] <tgm4883_laptop> I think the important part is getting something that works, then adding features.  Sounds like yours is working?
[20:04] <beavis> yes, there's always a black icon if the BE is idle and a red one if it's recording
[20:05] <tgm4883_laptop> how often do you check the xml port?
[20:06] <beavis> it works for just one backend and one tv card so far, but it should be easy to add some more features since it's all in the xml file
[20:06] <beavis> 		duration = 15 # seconds
[20:06] <tgm4883_laptop> ok
[20:06] <tgm4883_laptop> have you experienced any backend crashing?
[20:07] <tgm4883_laptop> there was some talk of the backend crashing if the xml port gets hit too often
[20:07] <agruman> heya, i have a dvb-c adapter and everything seems ok in dmesg, scan finds channels, and czap locks, but im unable to get any video, from what i understand im supposed to be able to do "cat /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 > file.mpeg". Is that correct? That file always becomes 0 bytes, and mplayer and klear prduces no video as well.
[20:08] <chuk_barn> how does the XMLTVID field in mythconverg.channel get populated?
[20:09] <chuk_barn> other than manually
[20:09] <tgm4883_laptop> doesn't it get populated by mythfilldatabase?
[20:09] <chuk> thats what I figured, but is it just based on channel number?
[20:10] <tgm4883_laptop> channel number and location I believe
[20:10] <tgm4883_laptop> maybe callsign too
[20:10] <chuk> and is it a one time thing, or will it overwrite it?
[20:10] <chuk> I have some channels that have matching records in my schedulesdirect subscription
[20:11] <chuk> but they aren't getting an XMLTVID
[20:11] <tgm4883_laptop> not sure on that, i know there is an update option when scanning, but idk about mythfilldatabase
[20:11] <chuk> I can manually assign it
[20:11] <chuk> but thats a pain
[20:11] <tgm4883_laptop> beavis, off to lunch, can you email me a link to that google code when it gets up?
[20:12] <beavis> tgm4883, I just have to put my kids to bed... talk to you later
[20:12] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[20:18] <oanszwoa> i´m sure that i checked the box for XMLTV support on installation.
[20:19] <oanszwoa> but i can´t select something like that in the backend settings.
[20:19] <oanszwoa> where can i activate this later ?
[20:33] <Mirage> setting up the program guide pull is in the backend config (mythtv-setup)
[20:36] <oanszwoa> what i can start over the configuration center - THE backend configuration menu?
[20:38] <oanszwoa> after loading new video drivers, it seems to lag less than before.
[20:42] <oanszwoa> mirage, can´t find it - got tomatoes on my eyes...
[20:43] <MythbuntuGuest72> hi
[20:44] <MythbuntuGuest72> my son put mythbuntu over ubuntu bay mistake can we change back ..?
[20:45] <MythbuntuGuest72> you guys suck
[20:46] <Solarbaby> superm1: I had the Dell C610 Video working with playing videos at 24 bit depth..  but its incredibly unstable
[20:46] <JThundley> hahahaha
[20:46] <Solarbaby> superm1: the ATi driver sucks
[21:35] <vwmoab> How can I do an on demand (one touch) record and stop it from starting a new file every half an hour? I am still fairly new to mythtv and i find myself getting lost in the menus....anyone?
[21:40] <oanszwoa> vwmoah, only bots in here... sorry. :(
[21:40] <oanszwoa> bye bye..
[21:41] <tgm4883_laptop> ?
[21:41] <tgm4883_laptop> vwmoab, so you want a single file that records indefinetly?
[21:43] <vwmoab> tgm4883_laptop:i want to initiate the record using the 'R' key and i want it to record to a single file until i tell it to stop
[21:43] <tgm4883_laptop> ok, and currently it chops it into 30 minute chunks?
[21:45] <vwmoab> tgm4883:yeah...i did an on demand record of a flick  and when i went to rename it and move it to my repository i found that i had a bunh of half hour chunks
[21:47] <tgm4883_laptop> vwmoab, ok, i'll think about it.  Time to go home. Back in about 20 min
[22:04] <directhex> vwmoab, you don't have a program guide set up?
[22:05] <JThundley> he's recording from ondemand
[22:05] <JThundley> I.e. no schedule
[22:06] <directhex> myth's not designed to be a vcr, it's designed to be a pvr
[22:06] <JThundley> vwmoab: you could bypass mythtv altogether if you wanted
[22:06] <JThundley> cat /dev/video0 > bababooey.mpg
[22:07] <JThundley> I would look into filesystem limitations too, although I think all linux filesystems allow for ginormous files
[22:10] <vwmoab> sorry guys...i stepped away for a minute...no i dont have a program guide setup....i am working with dishtv....basically what i am trying to do is offload the content from the dish pvr by simply watching it and recording it ondemand with myth
[22:10] <directhex> myth's not designed to be a vcr, it's designed to be a pvr
[22:11] <directhex> i think you can configure somewhere how long it considers an unknown program to be, but i couldn't say where precisely
[22:13] <vwmoab> directhex:yeah i got that the first time....i am thinking that JThundley's suggestion might bear fruit...i like the simplicity...
[22:13] <JThundley> just don't forget to kill it ;)
[22:13] <directhex> vwmoab, his suggestion is "myth's not designed to be a vcr, it's designed to be a pvr" so not using it at all
[22:14] <vwmoab> directhex:i got that too
[22:14] <JThundley> you can do a manual schedule in mythtv
[22:14] <JThundley> it's just like you would do with a VCR I think
[22:15] <JThundley> you set a start time, stop time and channel
[22:15] <JThundley> I've never used it
[22:18] <vwmoab> JThundley:yeah thats what i was preparing to do....I just want to get the content off...i dont necessarily need to use myth to do it...it just seemed like i could....i like the cat /dev/video0 > filename.mpg...the thing i wonder about that method is what will its default bitrate be...i'd like it to be around a gig an hour which as i understand it is around 2200
[22:19] <JThundley> hmmmm, with cat you wouldn't be able to control stuff like that
[22:19] <JThundley> I don't know what the default is
[22:19] <JThundley> if you're handy with mencoder I bet you could make it work
[22:20] <vwmoab> JThundley:yeah...well i will run a few tests and see what i come up with...thanks to you and the others for your suggestions
[22:20] <JThundley> sure thing
[22:59] <tgm4883_laptop> man, my 20 minutes aways turns into an hour
[23:00] <williammanda> if you could just get your bank to do that :)
[23:01] <directhex> williammanda, do what? make you queue for 3 times longer? mine does it already!
[23:02] <williammanda> sorry meant bank account......grow
[23:03] <williammanda> what is the next ubuntu release?
[23:09] <williammanda> who has a firewire-enabled cable or satellite tuner?
[23:13] <tgm4883_laptop> i use firewire to stream my motorola 6200
[23:13] <williammanda> is that a cable modem?
[23:13] <tgm4883_laptop> no STB
[23:14] <williammanda> do you get HDTV from it?
[23:14] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[23:14] <williammanda> can you do the same with satellite?
[23:15] <tgm4883_laptop> afaik, unfortunatly not.  The laws that apply to cable companies do not apply to satellite transmissions.  IE, i don't think they are required to give you a working firewire port
[23:16] <williammanda> ok
[23:16] <williammanda> what is UPNP?
[23:16] <tgm4883_laptop> Universal Plug And Play
[23:16] <williammanda> I have been reading the mythbuntu site :)
[23:16] <tgm4883_laptop> link?
[23:16] <williammanda> yes link
[23:17] <williammanda> how would you use UPNP?
[23:17] <tgm4883_laptop> err, can i get a link to what your reading so I can better explain?
[23:18] <williammanda> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[23:19] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[23:19] <beavis> tgm4883_laptop, I just moved  from SAX to DOM, So the script is broken at the moment
[23:19] <tgm4883_laptop> k
[23:20] <beavis> tgm4883_laptop, I'll put it online when it'll work again
[23:20] <tgm4883_laptop> williammanda, there are certain media devices that are made by some companies that connect to UPNP media servers
[23:20] <tgm4883_laptop> UPNP is a protocol allowing this connectivity
[23:21] <tgm4883_laptop> for instance, here is a review and picture of one
[23:21] <tgm4883_laptop> http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=3217
[23:23] <foxxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, what is the cmd to kill another irc instance (my main id thinks its online still)
[23:23] <directhex> if the nick is registered with nickserv, try identifying
[23:23] <tgm4883_laptop> are you looking to kick it?
[23:23] <foxxbuntu> tgm4883 yes
[23:24] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[23:24] <tgm4883_laptop> yea try identifing
[23:24] <directhex> /msg nickserv ghost registeredNickName NicknamePassword
[23:24] <tgm4883_laptop> cause you sould be able to overpower the other one
[23:24] <tgm4883_laptop> providing it is not actually online right now
[23:25] <foxbuntu> YAY
[23:25] <foxbuntu> thanks directhex
[23:25] <foxbuntu> much better
[23:25]  * directhex knows all, /me sees all
[23:25] <directhex> thankfully, /me does not smell all
[23:25]  * foxbuntu is all
[23:51] <williammanda> what is going to be the next linux kernel in ubuntu?
[23:51]  * tgm4883_laptop shrugs
[23:51] <williammanda> or where can I go to find it
[23:51] <tgm4883_laptop> #ubuntu
[23:51] <williammanda> alright sorry
[23:51] <tgm4883_laptop> maybe the ubuntu launchpad page
[23:52] <tgm4883_laptop> or maybe the UCS boston page
[23:52] <tgm4883_laptop> or maybe superm1 knows
[23:52] <williammanda> the reason I ask is .....one of my tuners is added to the future kernel
[23:52] <tgm4883_laptop> which one?
[23:53] <williammanda> hold on
[23:53] <tgm4883_laptop> looks like 2.6.24 will be in hardy
[23:55] <williammanda> PCIe DViCO FusionHDTV5 Express
[23:55] <williammanda> I have had this thing for over a year and can't use it
[23:56] <williammanda> i bought it right before I switched to linux
[23:56] <williammanda> worked great in windows
[23:56] <williammanda> works in 2.6.24 kernel
[23:57] <tgm4883_laptop> well according to the launchpad page thats the kernel for hardy
[23:57] <williammanda> ok ty
[23:57] <williammanda> i wasn't trying to be off topic
[23:57] <tgm4883_laptop> is the express version different than the regular version?  I was under the impression that it worked
[23:58] <tgm4883_laptop> you weren't too OT, but I was just saying that I didn't know off the top of my head
[23:58] <williammanda> I couldn't tell the difference between the two