=== claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [02:09] you know what is weird [02:10] when prompted to select my remote control, it has the manufacturer listed [02:10] but it appears it cannot interface with the card [02:10] even though the drivers appear loaded [02:10] Phillips chipset [02:11] on a Chronos pcmicia card [02:13] ya mean === MythbuntuGuest87 is now known as mavric [02:23] wassup [02:24] downloading the mythbuntu iso now [02:25] Anybody know why my channel names aren't getting fetched? [02:25] information is there, just no names on most. For some reason HBO and Cspan show up fine [02:25] guest02-- what tuner card are you using? [02:26] wintvgo [02:29] oh, so... desktop [02:29] ? [02:29] ya [02:30] seems like haupauge is the way to go. [02:31] this will be my first attempt at mythtv [02:31] maybe its a myth haha [02:32] true, true. ha [02:33] whoops I got distracted, Hauppauge PVR-150 [02:34] 02- wow, and I thought the haupage pvr-150 was problem free... [02:35] ... I'm guessing that it's a channel feeder issue [02:35] and not neccessarily that of mythtv [02:36] aw man, that's no fun [02:36] yeah, at least it's not mythtv [02:37] I think I actually saw the same issue posted somewhere, but I can't remember what the answer was and find it again [02:37] I had an old mythtv installation I hadn't used in months, figured I could use a fresh reinstall and that maybe it would work [02:38] but looks like I've hit the same problem [02:40] ooh maybe I found it again [02:42] MythbuntuGuest02, where do you get your channel data from? [02:51] good question. [02:51] some sources are notorious for taking down the electronic availability of their feeds [02:51] as has happened in my neck of the woods [03:02] Anyone else on trunk builds noting freezes? >.> [03:02] just started after todays uploads [03:02] * Toxicity999 attempts to ssh the box [03:02] Locked solid. [03:03] Probably upstream anyway, trunk does that occasionally. [03:13] alright this the guy who was getting no channel names [03:13] turns out if I delete all the channel info and fetch from the source WITHOUT scanning I get the info [03:13] BUT [03:13] MythbuntuGuest24, where do you get your channel data from? [03:13] the info is 2 channels off [03:14] where do you live? [03:14] Connecticut [03:14] and schedulesdirect [03:15] interesting [03:16] also using PVR-150 if that's relevant === rsriverrat is now known as rsriverrat_ [03:32] /msg nickserv link rsriverrat boozer70 === rsriverrat is now known as rsriverrat_ === rsriverrat_ is now known as rsriverrat [03:39] foxbuntu___, ? === Tar1 is now known as Tari|zzz === foxbuntu___ is now known as foxbuntu [05:01] has anyone done an upgrade to the latest release? I'm not seeing anything in the documentation about it. [05:02] latest release of mythbuntu? [05:02] yeah [05:03] i don't want to just blindly do a dist-upgrade and wind up with the full gnome/kde, etc for an htpc [05:03] granted it can all be stripped back off [05:05] what'd you start with? [05:06] i'm running the previous release atm. i've updated mythtv itself independently (following trunk) [05:06] well what od you mean previous [05:07] like alpha1 previous? [05:07] or like release candidate [05:07] worse case i can just dump the db, backup all the .confs and do a fresh install.. [05:07] alpha [05:10] alpha... [05:10] which one [05:10] i'm asking so specifically to let you know which is the easier route [05:11] there was a ton of changes between some of the earlier ones [05:11] i don't know for sure..i'd have to dig the disc. i already nuked the iso when i got the latest release [05:11] mine has a different window manager, doesn't seem to include MCC, etc [05:13] are phillips chipset ok to use? [05:13] yeah you're using one of the much earlier ones then [05:13] probably alpha 2 or 3 [05:13] alpha4 would have been a pretty smooth upgrade, but i'll expect some complications with alpha3 [05:14] so apt-get dist-upgrade isn't an option and i'd probably just be better off to back up all the custom configs and db, install fresh, and import it all back in [05:19] free1: for..? [05:19] Mirage, well [05:20] here's what i say you do [05:20] back up the db, the custom stuff and ~ [05:20] mirage: for mythtv [05:20] Mirage, and give it a shot [05:20] Mirage, the upgrade [05:20] mirage- sorry I didn't know that was for me. [05:20] Mirage, after the upgrade finishes, make sure mythbuntu-desktop is installed [05:20] free1: tuner chipset or which? [05:20] Mirage, and make sure that your log in session is the "Mythbuntu" session [05:20] tuner/recoder chipset [05:21] Mirage, and if you have ubuntu-mythtv-frontend installed, remove it [05:21] Mirage, with any luck that should cover your cases [05:21] superm1: np. after the holiday i'll just back it all up and do fresh. should be easier than when i migrated from knoppmyth before [05:22] free1: check http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Supported_hardware [05:22] Mirage, and moving from stable release to stable release with us should be sane [05:22] its just that we had so many big big development type changes during the alphas [05:22] that couldn't be represented nicely in packages [05:23] yeah, mine's running openbox for the wdm [05:24] not sure which alpha that was, but it's definitely an older one. [05:24] mirage- thank you for that... [05:25] Via the mythbuntu repositories will it be possible in later released to upgrade with apt, or will it be an option on the live cd? [05:25] but these hardware run similar chipsets [05:25] Mirage, well the mythbuntu repositories aren't used in the final release [05:25] Mirage, everything is in the archive [05:25] except for one theme [05:26] free1: as a general rule, hardware encoders are supported. Software ones are a bit trickier and can be problematic [05:26] Mirage, you can upgrade using upgrade-manager to 8.04 when its ready [05:26] mirage- right. therein lies the damn thing [05:26] any idea when 2.6.23 will be available? [05:27] Mirage, 2.6.23 won't be in ubuntu [05:27] Mirage, 2.6.22 for gutsy and 2.6.24 for hardy [05:28] free1: i tried 2-3 different software driven boards with little, they all had odd problems. Scratchy audio, artifacting picture, audio for the channel continuing when not viewing the 'stream'.. [05:29] mirage- throw me a bone-- do you know of a tuner/recorder that definitely works with myth, no problems [05:29] free1, any of the hauppauge pvr-xxx tuners [05:29] frank23, they are really the way to go if you want guaranteed problem free [05:29] free1, that is [05:29] hrm..may have to build it manually then. supposedly the r8169 problems are fixed in 2.6.23 [05:30] my 500mce works great, and i haven't had any issues with my HDHomerun either if you want to go digital [05:32] superm- but some hauppauge pvrxxx are know not to work [05:32] Mirage, r8169? [05:32] get the cards, not the usb [05:32] free1, which ones? [05:32] superm1: realtek 8169. [05:32] Mirage, why not just grab the new 8169 source and build that then? [05:32] rather than the whole new kernel [05:33] superm1- VR1500/1600 [05:33] free1, notice i only gave 3 x's :) [05:33] didn't fix it..also using a compatible one from realtek didn't work either. other people i've seen post on it have said the same, and that upgrading to .23 fixed it. === rsriverrat is now known as rsriverrat_ [05:34] Mirage, well that's pretty unfortunate [05:34] superm1- ;). so you're telling me that all wintv pvr pcmcia are a go?? [05:34] free1, hehe [05:35] free1, okay here's some exact numbers that i know work well [05:35] 150,250,350,500 [05:35] k :) [05:35] superm1- you the boss [05:36] not to look a gift horse in the mouth, by no means... [05:36] superm1- are these digital or analog? [05:36] all analog === rsriverrat_ is now known as rsriverrat [05:36] if you want digital, like Mirage said, hdhomerun [05:36] is the way to go [05:36] i've got one myself, and i love it [05:36] sorry for the noob question [05:36] is that a model, or a manufacturer? [05:37] http://www.silicondust.com/ [05:37] I think I got mine for $169 and free shipping [05:37] uhhh, no dice [05:37] I'm looking at maximum bulk of a pcmcia [05:38] you mean size? [05:38] what are you using for the box? mini-itx? [05:38] yes [05:38] I am a firm free-speech fundamentalish [05:39] hdhomerun is external networked (100base) [05:39] well its external [05:39] so you can plug it anywhere in your network [05:39] fundamentalist [05:39] not free beer [05:39] but that 169, [05:39] dang [05:39] 2 tuners [05:39] no pcmcia card that is also digital that works fine out there? [05:40] and you can watch tv from it on any box connected to the network via VLC [05:40] free1, you mean PCI [05:40] * Mirage isn't familiar with any [05:40] or you actually talking pcmcia [05:41] I'm talking the credit card sized one that fits in the laptop [05:42] oh that's quite a different story [05:42] I see [05:42] i can't tell you any analog or digital pcmcia tuners that for sure will be working [05:42] at least none that i'm familiar with [05:42] the best way to determine if one you have in mind will work is to refer to www.linuxtv.org [05:48] free1: are you planning to run front/backend on the same box? what processor will ytou be running? [05:48] yes, celeron [05:48] I'll be doing light recording [05:48] speed? [05:49] hopefully at least a 1.4 to be front/backend [05:49] umm, good question... one sec [05:50] I think so [05:50] it's a toshiba satellite l35 [05:50] I've got the front and back end installed and up [05:51] the tuner card looked like it was golden [05:51] so a laptop? [05:51] then at the channal scan [05:51] darkness [05:51] yes. by all means- a laptop\ [05:52] oh, i thought you said it was a mini-itx box when i asked earlier. [05:52] no. must be someone else [05:52] laptop or bust [05:57] i think i'm gonna have to say good luck on that then. better to get an older desktop and set it up as a dedicated backend, then just used the live cd as a frontend [05:57] on the laptop [05:58] or even do a frontend install on the laptop [05:58] that's the reason for the different options :) [05:59] yeah, it's a pretty light install [06:13] good luck to me. I'm out [06:50] * Solar_ squatts down and poops on his laptop [07:41] Im running out of ideas here.. Im using the ATi drivers on my Dell Latitude C610 Laptop.. Myth frontend runs just fine until I play a video and then I get the blue screen, sound works though.. so its playing the video sound only.. I changed the bit to 16 and that should have helped, but didn't.. I added the overlay to xorg.conf still no good [07:48] HD? [07:51] Hiya superm1 not hd === Solar_ is now known as Solarbaby [07:52] Solarbaby, oh its you. I need you to comment on that pvr-350 bug [07:52] Solarbaby, its been a long time trying to get it through [07:52] so i need someone who its worked for to comment on it still [07:52] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/158562/ [07:52] absolutely.. sorry I've not spoken up much lately [07:53] i've been missing too [07:53] i've got a lot going on [07:53] superm1: I'd prolly start a new drug addiction if I were in your shoes [07:55] haha [07:56] well so about your current issue, fglrx or open source? [07:57] superm1: what should I say.. I ran the patch and my Hauppauge 350 finally works! [07:57] Solarbaby, say that you used the package from the PPA and that it works yeah [07:57] Thanks.. Im writing it now [07:59] finally done.. Okay Im using opensource drivers.. Ati [07:59] can you use fglrx by chance? [07:59] with the Ati driver I even get TV out working which is a must! everything works great, cept when I play a video in mythtv [07:59] I can try, but I wouldn't know how to get tv out working with that [08:01] you can get tv out with the open source driver? [08:01] what video card model is that? [08:01] Im using the ati driver [08:01] as far as I know its open source [08:01] its the default driver [08:02] tv out worked when I apt-get install ativideoout [08:02] sorry atitvout [08:02] right what model video card though [08:02] do you know? [08:02] then i rad atitvout -f t and it displayed through the svideo like it should [08:03] im not really sure [08:03] its a laptop [08:03] Dell Latitude C610 [08:03] well check out lspci [08:03] ok [08:03] thanks for the command, you know I never remember those [08:04] It registers as a Ati Radeon Mobility M6 Ly [08:05] okay then you are stuck with the open source ones then [08:05] oh you are using tv out... that's right [08:05] can you change the screen the overlay shows up on? [08:06] I can change resolution [08:06] and I changed depth to 16 [08:06] you should be able to change overlay too somehow [08:06] i dont know how to offhand for that card [08:07] a whole installation ago I used the Radeon driver instead of the Ati, put the depth at 16 and video played.. couldn't duplicate that this time though [08:07] its likely the tv out doing it [08:07] because the overlay is on the wrong monitor [08:07] course with the radeon driver I couldn't make tv out work [08:09] I only have it setup to use 1 monitor [08:09] when I turn on tv out, laptop screen goes blank [08:10] but before you turn on tv out, the laptop screen should show the picture fine right? [08:10] anyways video files dont play on either the lcd screen or the tv [08:10] nope.. never plays videos.. just gives blue screen.. but I can hear the video audio playing just fine [08:11] what resolution is the laptop running at? [08:11] 1024x768@60 [08:13] can you try lowering it? [08:13] to maybe 800x600 and see if it persists? [08:14] when I lower it to 800x600 and load the mythtv frontend, it loads, i can't see any of the menu commands but they are all there.. so knowing that, I press enter until I get into play video [08:14] and I get a blue screen and audio [08:15] nothing crashes so thats kinda good i guess [08:15] if I could see the video i'd be set.. but its just boring blue [08:16] hm [08:16] do other media playback apps do this too? [08:16] can you try like mplayer or xine etc [08:16] im trying every resolution I have currently.. although if i run 640x480 that could crash the system [08:17] yeah.. i'll copy a video file over to the local hard drive and give it a shot [08:26] vlc has the same problem [08:27] well i'm gonna have to hit the hay right now [08:27] i'll have to toy with more on it this week [08:27] alright.. I'll most likely need you on this one [08:27] sure thing.. have a good night buddy [08:27] post to the forums though [08:28] there are a lot of other bright people showing up now [08:28] alright will do [08:28] and helping out [08:28] not too many compare to you [08:28] besides I like you [08:28] *Wink* [08:28] well thanks. but i eat, sleep, and breathe this development stuff :) [08:29] okay nn [08:29] Night! === nico_ is now known as camelreef [13:05] hello all [13:09] I have questions about the weekly builds [13:46] how big of a risk to the WAF is using -trunk if the main thing you want are Storage groups? [13:47] the box is a combined back+front system - http://www.youplala.net/linux/home-theater-pc === d33p__ is now known as luisbg [19:04] he ho. === MythbuntuGuest01 is now known as ultra [19:06] greetings === ultra is now known as trouble === trouble is now known as oanszwoa [19:09] oanszwoa, did you have a question? [19:09] what could be my problem, if can´t change the channels the known way? [19:10] xawtv can handle my 2 analog PCI TV-cards. [19:10] had to create /etc/modprobe.d/bttv with -> options bttv card=54 tuner=5 [19:11] for the second card - the first one was detected right. [19:12] ..and, it´s seems to lag often - don´t think, that´s some time-shifting things.. [19:13] tgm4883_laptop, do you have an answer? :) [19:13] ..or any somment? ;) [19:13] sorry - comment.. [19:16] switching the channels in the EPG also lags terrible. [19:17] i was sure to run into trouble with the hardware - but that it would be a problem to change the channels..... - no. [19:19] is it possible, that i also have problems with the drivers of my video card? [19:29] are there aby other Mythbuntu irc channels out there? [19:36] i think this is the official one [19:36] it is just awfully quiet today [19:42] tgm4883, you're working on a trayicon for mythtv? [19:42] tgm4883, I've done some initial work here [19:42] yes [19:43] a backend notifier [19:43] tgm4883, it already shows when it's recording something [19:43] tgm4883, a red icon for recording and a black one for idle [19:43] interesting [19:43] thats half of what im working on [19:43] tgm4883, it's in python, what's your solution? [19:43] well currently i only have a gui [19:43] no backend to that yet [19:45] currently it's just a gui built in glade-3, with a python coding yet to be started [19:46] tgm4883, my "backend part" is quite simple, but it already shows something [19:46] sweet are you polling the status port? [19:46] tgm4883, I was just looking for an idea which colors to take for what [19:47] It's actually the xml part of the status port I'm talkting to [19:47] right [19:47] I use sax to parse it [19:48] do you know which colors MS uses for their media center tray icon? [19:48] no [19:48] although I could check [19:48] later [19:49] at work we have a few systems with MCE [19:49] I guess it's red for recording [19:49] probably [19:49] i would think though [19:49] but what could be yellow/green be used for? [19:49] that yellow be used for recording [19:49] red for not available (ie offline) [19:49] and green for free [19:50] so your looking at the xml status port on the master backend right? [19:52] beavis, would it be possible to see this in action? [19:52] yes, we of course can share the code [19:52] I'll put it on google code [19:52] best [19:52] ok [19:52] thanks [19:53] have you seen the blueprint that I am working on? [19:53] nope [19:54] https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec/mythbackend-notifier [19:54] it's pretty much exactly what you have, with the addition of some error resolving [19:54] i think* [19:59] yes, great [20:01] I don't have a gui for the prefs yet, everything's hard coded at the moment... [20:04] I think the important part is getting something that works, then adding features. Sounds like yours is working? [20:04] yes, there's always a black icon if the BE is idle and a red one if it's recording [20:05] how often do you check the xml port? [20:06] it works for just one backend and one tv card so far, but it should be easy to add some more features since it's all in the xml file [20:06] duration = 15 # seconds [20:06] ok [20:06] have you experienced any backend crashing? [20:07] there was some talk of the backend crashing if the xml port gets hit too often [20:07] heya, i have a dvb-c adapter and everything seems ok in dmesg, scan finds channels, and czap locks, but im unable to get any video, from what i understand im supposed to be able to do "cat /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 > file.mpeg". Is that correct? That file always becomes 0 bytes, and mplayer and klear prduces no video as well. [20:08] how does the XMLTVID field in mythconverg.channel get populated? [20:09] other than manually === chuk_barn is now known as chuk [20:09] doesn't it get populated by mythfilldatabase? [20:09] thats what I figured, but is it just based on channel number? [20:10] channel number and location I believe [20:10] maybe callsign too [20:10] and is it a one time thing, or will it overwrite it? [20:10] I have some channels that have matching records in my schedulesdirect subscription [20:11] but they aren't getting an XMLTVID [20:11] not sure on that, i know there is an update option when scanning, but idk about mythfilldatabase [20:11] I can manually assign it [20:11] but thats a pain [20:11] beavis, off to lunch, can you email me a link to that google code when it gets up? [20:12] tgm4883, I just have to put my kids to bed... talk to you later [20:12] k [20:18] i´m sure that i checked the box for XMLTV support on installation. [20:19] but i can´t select something like that in the backend settings. [20:19] where can i activate this later ? === croppa_ is now known as croppa [20:33] setting up the program guide pull is in the backend config (mythtv-setup) [20:36] what i can start over the configuration center - THE backend configuration menu? [20:38] after loading new video drivers, it seems to lag less than before. [20:42] mirage, can´t find it - got tomatoes on my eyes... [20:43] hi [20:44] my son put mythbuntu over ubuntu bay mistake can we change back ..? [20:45] you guys suck [20:46] superm1: I had the Dell C610 Video working with playing videos at 24 bit depth.. but its incredibly unstable [20:46] hahahaha [20:46] superm1: the ATi driver sucks [21:35] How can I do an on demand (one touch) record and stop it from starting a new file every half an hour? I am still fairly new to mythtv and i find myself getting lost in the menus....anyone? [21:40] vwmoah, only bots in here... sorry. :( [21:40] bye bye.. [21:41] ? [21:41] vwmoab, so you want a single file that records indefinetly? [21:43] tgm4883_laptop:i want to initiate the record using the 'R' key and i want it to record to a single file until i tell it to stop [21:43] ok, and currently it chops it into 30 minute chunks? [21:45] tgm4883:yeah...i did an on demand record of a flick and when i went to rename it and move it to my repository i found that i had a bunh of half hour chunks [21:47] vwmoab, ok, i'll think about it. Time to go home. Back in about 20 min [22:04] vwmoab, you don't have a program guide set up? [22:05] he's recording from ondemand [22:05] I.e. no schedule [22:06] myth's not designed to be a vcr, it's designed to be a pvr [22:06] vwmoab: you could bypass mythtv altogether if you wanted [22:06] cat /dev/video0 > bababooey.mpg [22:07] I would look into filesystem limitations too, although I think all linux filesystems allow for ginormous files [22:10] sorry guys...i stepped away for a minute...no i dont have a program guide setup....i am working with dishtv....basically what i am trying to do is offload the content from the dish pvr by simply watching it and recording it ondemand with myth [22:10] myth's not designed to be a vcr, it's designed to be a pvr [22:11] i think you can configure somewhere how long it considers an unknown program to be, but i couldn't say where precisely [22:13] directhex:yeah i got that the first time....i am thinking that JThundley's suggestion might bear fruit...i like the simplicity... [22:13] just don't forget to kill it ;) [22:13] vwmoab, his suggestion is "myth's not designed to be a vcr, it's designed to be a pvr" so not using it at all [22:14] directhex:i got that too [22:14] you can do a manual schedule in mythtv [22:14] it's just like you would do with a VCR I think [22:15] you set a start time, stop time and channel [22:15] I've never used it [22:18] JThundley:yeah thats what i was preparing to do....I just want to get the content off...i dont necessarily need to use myth to do it...it just seemed like i could....i like the cat /dev/video0 > filename.mpg...the thing i wonder about that method is what will its default bitrate be...i'd like it to be around a gig an hour which as i understand it is around 2200 [22:19] hmmmm, with cat you wouldn't be able to control stuff like that [22:19] I don't know what the default is [22:19]