[01:13] oh nose [01:13] Talking with choudesh who just applied to ubuntu-irc - never heard of him. [01:15] heh [01:16] logs say different [01:16] hmm tis odd [01:18] Wants to be in the team, but not be an op [01:18] why do4es he want to be in the team then [01:19] it'll cost him 500 quid [01:19] per month [01:19] Seeker``, the team could use it... [01:19] *explains more explicitly what the team is* [01:20] Seeker``: because the team has cool people in it [01:21] He seems like an ok guy. [01:24] All sorted. [01:24] what are the guidelines/qualifications/responsibilities entailed for applying to ~ubuntu-irc? [01:25] jdong, https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc [01:25] jdong: 500 quid a month [01:25] * nalioth runs [01:25] ah, ok, thanks PriceChild [01:27] nalioth: how much is that in real money? [01:27] *ducks* [01:27] jdong, haha :) [01:27] I'm gonna be hurt for that one ;-) [01:27] jdong, I didn't think you were british? [01:27] jdong: What do you count as "real" money? [01:28] Seeker``, dollars judging by his nationality [01:28] Seeker``: the money of the wonderful nation that is protector of the free world and defenders of freedom and democracy [01:28] YEAH RUMSFIELD!!! [01:28] ;-) [01:28] jdong: Not the US or UK then? [01:28] rumsfield?!?! where? [01:28] Seeker``: ;-) [01:29] jdong, basically important to note that being an op in an ubuntu channel... and being in ubuntu-irc are two very different things. [01:29] PriceChild: yeah, it appears clear in the LP description of the team [01:29] one gives you power to abuse, the other says you belong to a launchpad group? [01:30] erm.....? [01:30] Seeker``: hey there has to be a materialistic trophy for everything that one does ;-) [01:30] otherwise, what's the point of doing it? [01:30] ahe [01:30] mm [01:30] * ajmitch is in the LP team, but is hardly an op in an ubuntu channel [01:30] PriceChild: try with words [01:31] PriceChild: By "power to abuse" I mean "Kick Gary" [01:31] * jdong is totally into Ubuntu for the money [01:31] ajmitch, lucky those are requirements for new applicants then :) [01:32] Pelo is always helping in #ubuntu, he's been around so long... [01:32] * Seeker`` cries [01:32] mean Hobbsee [01:33] ajmitch someone who wishes to remain anonymous is poking me to poke you to review motu applications 8-) [01:33] good. just checking. [01:33] ah yes, you being in hte council and all [01:33] PriceChild: pelo was the one applying? [01:33] PriceChild: I wonder who [01:33] * ajmitch finds his big DENIED stamp [01:33] LjL, nope.... was just a random observation of me [01:34] LjL, choudesh was the one applying [01:34] ajmitch: I think all the ink is dried from the backports triage today ;-) [01:34] ajmitch, and your red ink! [01:34] PriceChild: I prefer to use the applicant's blood [01:34] * Hobbsee steals the stamp, and stamps it on ajmitch's forehead. [01:34] more dramatic [01:34] we only have the Accept Green color in stock today :) [01:34] someone control Hobbsee, please :P [01:35] Hobbsee: look over there, getdeb packages! [01:35] PriceChild: help?! [01:35] *toys with ubuntuirccouncil and /cs access* [01:35] ow! [01:35] PriceChild: dont make me drop you first. [01:35] Hobbsee, :D [01:35] PriceChild: umm... those prepositional objects probably aren't splitting how you're intending them to... [01:36] jdong, I speak english [01:36] *mouths the word english* [01:36] PriceChild: careful where you put the and. it might be interpreted differently :) [01:37] jdong, is this something that belongs in that "other" channel? [01:37] because i'm still not getting it... [01:37] PriceChild: that's... that's what she said! [01:37] !crack [01:37] Sorry, I don't know anything about crack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:37] !jdong is crack [01:37] But jdong already means something else! [01:37] haha [01:37] !crack is jdong [01:37] I'll remember that, Hobbsee [01:37] damn, wrong way [01:37] !crack [01:37] jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK! [01:42] pwned [01:43] In #ubuntu, danbhfive said: uBOTu, i think ubotu is a bot [01:44] ubotu, i think danbhfive wants a ban [01:56] @lart Hobbsee [01:57] hi Mez [01:58] you have no idea how hard those bans were to resolve [01:59] sheesh, sorry. yeah, i went out. [01:59] mind not doing the join/part spam, though? :) [02:00] guess you owuld have needed a staffer [02:00] uh... Mez i banned you too, why were they hard to get around? [02:00] LjL: because very few people have ops in the places that i banned him [02:00] LjL cause I was banned twice ;) and dont have ops in -devel and -motu [02:00] ah [02:01] Mez: yeah - ban evasion. [02:01] lol [02:01] pfff [02:01] kline! [02:01] i'm not quite sure how you were evading them, either. [02:01] and the reason I got spammed out was cause my home PC and Work PC were both connecting at the same time [02:01] yeah, we thought so. and you didnt seem to be there, so we figured we'd ban till you fixed it. [02:01] Mez: but you excess flooded [02:01] Hobbsee, one was set on my real host, when I rejoined, it had that for a while, tehn I identified and it set my hostmask, allowing me to rejoin with the cloacked nick [02:01] yup [02:02] I excess flooded as I was joining feckloads of channels,a nd both my home clients and work clients were sending the "rejoin this channel cause I got disconnected" commands [02:02] which was what was causing the excess flood [02:02] then the bans would actually have helped :) [02:02] LjL: xchat does that. (excess floods) [02:03] oh, yeah... I know - I've no problemw ith the bans... they were just a pain to get rid of [02:03] nalioth: yeah... there must be a reason why i don't disconnect on CTCP attacks, while some other 200 users do :) [02:04] hehe, I was also sending double CTCP replies [02:04] (one from each client) [02:05] * ajmitch thinks that he should just be left banned :) [02:05] ajmitch, hmm ... that's your opinion [02:05] of course [02:05] I think nalioth did consider it though [02:05] but it's fun to let you untangle the bans [02:06] * ajmitch will probably get banned soon anyway [02:06] how're things anyways ajmitch - haven't really seen you around much [02:06] alright [02:06] good to hear ;) [02:06] still around, in a sense [02:06] btw - whatever happened about your laptop at UBZ - was it insured ? (lol - bit of a late question I know!) [02:07] way back then, 2 years ago? [02:07] yeah, for part of the value, iirc [02:07] * ajmitch got a new one anyway [02:07] which I've managed to keep for a bit longer :) [02:07] was it only two years ago? [02:07] seems longer [02:07] yes, 2 years [02:09] * ajmitch has been around for awhile now [02:10] so have I apparently [02:10] * ajmitch was at UDU before that [02:13] I know - wish I'd been able to go to that [02:14] it was a little closer for me [02:14] just a little [02:15] I'm still pissed I didn't have a chance to go to UDS even though it was right in my back yard [02:15] jdong, how come/ [02:15] because he was slacking [02:15] forget back yard... it was in your house almost [02:15] it literally couldn't have been closer [02:15] PriceChild: managed to get two failing test grades and a paper due date in the same week [02:15] :( [02:15] PriceChild: was kinda overwhelmed with patching things up so I remain on campus and not in a dump [04:14] hey - any chance somebody could check out -offtopic [04:14] Snuxoll called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (tim) [04:37] given the comments by tim in +1, i'm surprised he didnt find -women [09:52] ikonia called the ops in #ubuntu () [09:52] Morningsickness offensive racist command and bad langauge [09:53] Yay GNAA attacks [09:53] Expect more [09:54] ta [09:54] GGNA ? [09:55] google it, i don't want to say the name :P [09:57] no problem [10:50] moin [10:51] hiya Tm_T [10:51] alert alert crozar is in #ubuntu and just being a little pain [10:51] :/ [10:52] danger will robinson danger [11:00] off again -> [12:38] whoa [12:38] that was a quick split [12:46] That was a ridiculously huge one... [12:46] * Pici fights off urge to twss... [12:48] lol [12:49] woooo well done jdong!!! [12:50] sorry PriceChild, was distracted looking for jobs to apply for [12:50] elkbuntu, ? [12:50] PriceChild, i noticed joni but then went afw [12:50] pfft I'm sure we'll live ;) [12:51] *runs to lecture* === crdlb_ is now known as crdlb === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [15:33] jdong: please ignore your email for a while [15:34] o_O [15:39] * Pici ignores jdong for a while [15:42] hes gonna be pissed :9 [15:49] Pici: i wouldnt spend any time on ket... [15:50] gnomefreak: I'll let jrib spend the time then :p [15:50] i removed him a little while ago for caps but i think he is more troll than anything [15:55] * gnomefreak keeps getting closer to him being a troll [18:16] sidlet: im running gentoo on all my servers, but ubuntu just seems a lot more sensible on a workstation [18:16] Does anyone else see something wrong with that? [18:20] I wouldnt run a system where I had to compile everything on a server, but thats just me. [18:22] PriceChild: hahaha [18:22] PriceChild: I don't know if he's a skilled gentoo admin though :) [18:23] definitely competent BSD-style sysadmins can get Gentoo to work great on a server [18:23] jdong: +1 [18:24] I can't help but wonder why someone who is using gentoo on two servers has to come to #ubuntu to ask questions about their Ubuntu install. [18:24] and it doesn't seem unreasonable at all to me, my webserver and mailserver ran gentoo for a few years (managed by my brilliant husband, who went the gentoo route when I went Debian) [18:24] pleia2: BSD ports based servers are some of the most solid on the 'net, and Gentoo is nothing more than a Linux clone of the BSD Ports model [18:24] jdong: yup [18:25] pleia2: sadly the gentoo stereotype + server = doom though ;-) [18:25] of course [18:26] pleia2: I used Gentoo for almost a year before Ubuntu came along... it was the lognest I've stayed in a single distro up to that point [18:27] I left because I started having less free time -- Gentoo is fairly high-maintenance [18:27] yeah, that's why I stopped using it too [18:28] * pleia2 went red hat > debian > gentoo > debian > ubuntu [18:28] who knows how to work this pos [18:28] since 2001 [18:28] good day gnomefreak :P [18:28] good day pleia2 ;) [18:28] i cant work weechat [18:28] locate cant find weechat [18:28] which weechat? [18:29] the one in repos [18:29] no. `which weechat` [18:29] gnomefreak: weechat-curses [18:29] gnomefreak: 'sudo updatdb' [18:29] or that [18:29] gnomefreak: I think.... [18:29] yes [18:29] the weechat binary is not weechat :D [18:29] weechat-curses is installed with weechat [18:29] dpkg -s weechat [18:29] gnomefreak: the name of the binary is weechat-curses [18:30] ah ok so i run that [18:30] gnomefreak: yeah. Though it'll work better if you type irssi instead. [18:30] *ducks* [18:30] that worksed damn i feel stupid [18:32] * nalioth tickles thunderstruck in the weechat [18:32] hmmmmmmm thats odd [18:34] ok damn /win # dont work i really need to find guide for this [18:36] gnomefreak: IIRC /buffer = /win in irssi [18:36] gnomefreak: lemme know if you can get the server window to be less retarded [18:36] hmm [18:36] that is right [18:36] gnomefreak: i.e. /ban should output banlist to the CURRENT window not the main server window [18:36] cant find server window [18:37] yep /ban worked [18:37] is this try weechat day or something? :D [18:40] for me it is [18:40] i finished all packaging and now i just wait for upload (hopfully while they are still latest version) [18:41] pk that is odd client [18:41] thunderstruck: is the silly banlist-outputs-to-other-window thing changeable? [18:41] s/pk/ok [18:41] jdong: /ban outputs in channel window [18:42] gnomefreak: really? [18:42] *opens up weechat* [18:42] yes [18:43] yeah, you are right [18:44] then what was I thinking of.... [18:44] oh no! now theres two of them! [18:45] ROAR :P [18:45] they use meta-1 for buffer1 [18:45] two of who? [18:45] hmmmm [18:45] Gary: of whom. [18:45] meta2-15~ = "/buffer -1" [18:45] * Gary hides from jdong [18:45] how would you have -1 window [18:45] WHOO! it crashed with bus error /sigabort! [18:46] ok that's enough weechat for one day :) [18:47] meta key looks important in weechat [18:51] it also seems scripts need to be fudged with to make them work in weechat [18:53] that seems simple enough [19:34] why is AntiSpamMeta in #ubuntu? O_o [19:34] crdlb: to watch for maleficos [19:34] what is AntiSpamMeta? [19:34] [19:35] it's a bot that watches for connections from open proxies [19:35] should I check my lastlog? was this alerady explained? [19:35] it gives warnings [19:35] Ah, okay. [19:35] it's been on freenode for a long time now [19:35] but it's not a freenode bot [19:35] ah, I thought it was just #wikipedia's spam kicker bot [19:35] no, it has nothing to do with spam [19:36] join ##asb-nexus to watch it work [19:55] * jussio1 sighs at #ubuntu+1 [19:58] jussio1, s/ by running hardy so early - run it virtualised maybe...// [19:59] PriceChild: hehe... true [20:01] can I be tested? I changed ports [20:01] pipelineaudio: looks to be good, hold on a minute [20:02] do I have to set up dccallow? [20:03] pipelineaudio, nope... just change the port [20:03] keegan, hey, how can we help? [20:03] why is the ubuntu channel so paranoid? [20:03] its kind of weird [20:04] pipelineaudio: you can now rejoin #ubuntu. [20:04] thanks [20:05] hi i got a laptop and when i place it on my lap i get kind of a tingly feeling. i feel its tiny sparks passing between the laptop and my body. i got a charger thats 2 pin. so i have connected it to a spike thats 3 pin. when i remove my power cord the sparks stop, is there a solution ? [20:05] keegan: This isnt a support channel. [20:05] PriceChild: my question is kind of out of place. but i dont know where else to look for help [20:05] standby for trouble in #ubuntu [20:05] keegan: try ##hardware [20:05] someone calling ops "nut jobs" for being kicked [20:06] ikonia: that person is still in this channel. [20:06] ahh [20:06] pipelineaudio, nut jobs? [20:06] thanks [20:07] always talking about "for your safety" [20:07] pipelineaudio, well let me help you a little [20:07] if 100 people leave a channel due to some weakness with their router [20:07] it is disruptive [20:07] if you log out of irc at the time that occurs [20:08] you will be assumed to be part of those who have been exploited [20:08] and therefore removed [20:08] when you are shown to be clear you can go back to the channel [20:08] and as for calling people nut jobs I think that was not just unfair but an insult [20:09] but that is just my opinion [20:09] ompaul: do our heuristics check that the part reason is connection reset by peer? [20:09] I dont know when people are constantly on about "for your safety" and "they this and they that" its probably on the mark [20:09] we got that number down from a 100 [20:11] jdong, well lets work it out, people see you leave [20:11] you have something in your quit message that is not like a normal quit message [20:11] it is as good as it gets [20:12] jdong, there are those and also 104s [20:13] PriceChild: thanks, ompaul just clarified with me, no more silly questions from me at this moment :) [20:14] pipelineaudio, we try to maintain a usable channel, which means defending against attacks causing hundreds of lines of scroll. Is there anything else we can help you with? [20:15] yeah, what do I have to do to keep from getting kicked? so even with the port changesd, if something on my node goes I go right? [20:16] Your node? [20:16] is there some other setting I can do to not be part of the problem? [20:16] or my whatever [20:16] If you are on port 8001... you can not be affected by this exploit and are so not part of the problem. [20:17] Simple as that... you need never worry about us again. [20:34] PriceChild: do our chat client default configs use 8001 yet? [20:41] m1ke (n=mike@c-67-186-85-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has left #ubuntu (requested by ompaul: "nickspam" --- just now [20:41] jdong: some do [20:41] changed nick after I sent him the nickspam thing for two changes in a min or so [20:42] nalioth: are there still ones in the repos that don't? would be nice to fix for a LTS [20:43] jdong: i don't make a habit of using each client :( [20:43] jdong, what about the people who want to use default ports [20:43] jdong, my hardware works :) [20:43] ompaul: is there something wrong with 8001 though? [20:43] jdong, it does not work on all networks [20:43] ompaul: yeah I know your hardware works ;-) so does mine [20:43] it is freenode specific [20:44] ompaul: for our predefined Ubuntu/freenode ones we can set that though, right? [20:44] we could [20:44] ompaul: the settings in the client(s) are freenode only (not default for the client) [20:44] does it pass dcc? [20:44] nalioth, ya [20:44] I know htat [20:44] that even ;-) [20:44] ompaul: it's a pretty direct connection, I'd be surprised if it doesn't pass something [20:45] minus killing ;-) [21:04] heads up for a Tester@110-118-62-200.enitel.net.ni - he kept spamming the #kubuntu-es channel today [21:22] In #ubuntu-offtopic, MartinW said: !Delary is ♪De la Rey, De la Rey, sal jy die boere kom lei?♫ [21:23] can someone translate? [21:43] jdong, ask a -nl person or .za [21:43] I'm guessing it's some lyrics from a song [21:43] [21:45] hehe yep:) [21:45] nalioth: transmission [21:45] nalioth: transmission 0.93 (2007/11/12): [21:45] - Fix "router death" bug that impaired internet connectivity [21:46] nalioth: I'm going to look at what exactly they did to fix that, and see if I can't steal it for ktorrent too ;-) [21:46] jdong: don't forget the kittenz [21:46] :) [21:51] nalioth: looks like trivial choking of (1) rate at which new connections are opened (2) total number of new connections (3) max # connections total to 50 (4) max upload spots to 10 [22:20] nalioth: whenever you feel bored, would you be so kind as to test transmission 0.93 gutsy debs at http://jdong.mit.edu/~jdong/tranny/ to see if it solves your router knockout problems? [22:21] jdong, you couldn't resist.... [22:21] PriceChild: you dirty little boy. [22:22] jdong: I shall test them :) [22:22] PriceChild: yes I did smile inside when mkdir'ing them :) [22:26] PriceChild, jdong: http://www.tranny.org/ [22:26] tonyyarusso: do I dare? [22:26] jdong: yes. [22:26] Work safe [22:27] jdong, mhmm [22:27] very [22:27] tonyyarusso: that's an april fools joke right? [22:27] jdong: Nope. A lot of my friends went there. [22:27] jdong: those debs work fine here [22:27] tonyyarusso: interesting [22:27] I AM AMONG YOU! BEHOLD, AND DESPAIR! [22:27] oh ... and HI! [22:27] mc44: awesome. I wanted to get nalioth's input too because he specifically had the router-dies-when-running-transmission bug [22:27] * Gary despairs [22:27] hey sexy voiced one [22:27] jdong: ah, sorry :) [22:28] jdong: Their annual festival is called "Tranny Fest". [22:28] jdong: well, it hasn't knocked out my router yet :) [22:28] mc44: of course EVERY tester saves me embarassment of giving some crap-packaged thing to Debian ;-) [22:28] MilitantPotato called the ops in #kubuntu (tester) [22:28] and the team is the Tranny Tigers [22:28] mneptok, noted [22:28] haha [22:29] jpatrick, has he changed ip? [22:29] jdong: wow it even started a torrent which has been sitting there for a few months refusing to work :D [22:30] PriceChild: no, he was doing #kubuntu-es all day until I banned him, must be moving on to others [22:30] jpatrick, aha i see you warning us above! :D [22:33] Gary: surely you don't mean me? [22:33] http://krazydomain.com/images/kermithump.gif [22:33] mneptok, you sir, are crazy :p [22:34] i'll be your fluffy bunny, froggyman ... [22:35] mneptok, you are nsfw [22:35] hehe [22:36] * Gary saves that gif, for upload to the companies webserver for when I /quit [22:41] * ajmitch decides not to look at that picture [22:41] mc44: lol I did nothing, it's all upstream :) [22:42] jdong: I give you all the credit. have a mneptok on me [22:42] o_O [22:42] ajmitch, you are well advised [22:42] ompaul: I've met mneptok [22:43] ajmitch, did he buy beer? [22:43] he didn't buy me one [22:43] he spoke to me on the phone, he was trying to chat me up [22:43] at times he even seemed on the verge of sanity, though [22:43] this mneptok sure gets about a bit eh [22:44] ajmitch, hmmmmm no beer tut tut :) [22:44] it was at UDS, too [22:44] right night all, it's past my bedtime :p [22:45] ajmitch, ack [22:45] * ajmitch is thirsty now [22:49] man, i could do with a long cold one [22:50] jussio1: well I can't have them at all for a few years so shaddup :P [22:50] jdong: how old are you o.O [22:50] jussio1: 19 [22:52] jdong just doesn't get invited to the right parties [22:52] jdong: come to the UK! You can drink over here! [22:53] Seeker`, haha [22:53]