[00:00] <somerville32> ah, it has
[00:00] <crimsun> retour: likely not.
[00:04] <retour> crimsun: was working fine yesterday
[00:04] <somerville32> lol
[00:04] <somerville32> Now the server didn't come back up
[00:04] <somerville32> I'm screwed, lol
[00:04] <somerville32> oh
[00:04] <somerville32> :D
[00:04] <somerville32> Back up
[00:08] <somerville32> Thanks crimsun
[00:08] <somerville32> How do I use Xnest?
[00:27] <TheSheep> somerville32: like any other x server, only you need to run it from x
[00:28] <squirrelpimp> hi
[00:28] <squirrelpimp> is dsniff broken in gutsy?
[00:29] <squirrelpimp> it doesn't work. outputs nothing to stdout where it should
[00:29] <squirrelpimp> any ideas?
[00:31] <nikolam> Maybe I could test it here at me if you tell me what you are trying to do?
[00:32] <nikolam> Just to make shure is it gutsy or your install
[00:32] <nikolam> squirrelpimp,
[00:33] <squirrelpimp> actually i was just playing with it for a paper i have to write for university
[00:33] <nikolam> what command were you using and you think it does not work?
[00:33] <squirrelpimp> i ran several variations of "dsniff -n -i eth0" and then issued http requests
[00:33] <nikolam> Maybe I can try it here
[00:33] <squirrelpimp> containing user/pass authentication information
[00:34] <nikolam> let me try
[00:34] <squirrelpimp> i'm not sure if this is supposed to work, thanks for your effort so far,
[00:34] <squirrelpimp> i'm booting into bt2 in a vmware right now to see what i get there
[00:36] <nikolam> just a sec, it seems that 80% of my logins are https :)
[00:36] <nikolam> looking for http one :)
[00:36] <squirrelpimp> :)
[00:37] <nikolam> And where should I get output from dsniff?
[00:37] <squirrelpimp> i just tried the same commands on bt2 where they worked
[00:37] <nikolam> On console or on some file?
[00:37] <squirrelpimp> right on the console
[00:37] <nikolam> I get nothing on console with http password entering
[00:38] <nikolam> I get nothing on console with http password entering
[00:38] <squirrelpimp> ok
[00:38] <nikolam> with sudo dsniff -n -i ppp0
[00:38] <squirrelpimp> my x just crashed
[00:38] <nikolam> ?
[00:38] <squirrelpimp> ok,so that seems to be a bug then
[00:38] <nikolam> Inside vmware?
[00:39] <squirrelpimp> my xserver just crashed... no the real one
[00:39] <squirrelpimp> crap
[00:39] <squirrelpimp> i hit the wrong keys
[00:39] <squirrelpimp> :)
[00:39] <nikolam> You could report if you think it`s a bug, to launchpad.
[00:39] <nikolam> I dodn`t used to use dsniff before btw
[00:41] <squirrelpimp> theres a bug already, i also mentioned my confirmation earlier but as i need that for university i just asked here and i might mention there, that another xubuntu-user saw that too
[00:43] <nikolam> ok :)
[00:43] <nikolam> I just hope that we are using the right command for dsniff
[00:44] <squirrelpimp> yes, it worked instantly on bt2
[00:44] <squirrelpimp> btw... there was that tool to resize and move windows in a script?
[00:45] <squirrelpimp> i'd like to distribute autostarted applications at login time automagically
[00:45] <squirrelpimp> :)
[00:45] <nikolam> I dont know. Anyone?
[00:45] <nikolam> btw, what is ct2>
[00:45] <nikolam> bt2
[00:46] <squirrelpimp> backtrack, a security tools distribution
[00:46] <nikolam> oh :)
[00:47] <nikolam> Ok, thank you for reporting or confirm that bug anyway ;)
[00:49] <squirrelpimp> it's called devilspie
[00:49] <squirrelpimp> i just found it
[00:49] <squirrelpimp> :)
[01:00] <nikolam> squirrelpimp, Nicee, I will give it a try myself :)
[01:13] <tuga3d> hi all
[01:14] <tuga3d> how can i make a deb package from a scons build?
[01:14] <nikolam> hi
[01:14] <tuga3d> :)
[01:14] <nikolam> I just compiled myself iceape yesterday.
[01:15] <nikolam> First install source : make some dir ane apt-get source scons
[01:15] <nikolam> (as user-you)
[01:15] <tuga3d> i've compiled some aplications with scons, but i can do an deb package for distribution. do you know how i can do it?
[01:16] <nikolam> And apt-get build-dep <package>
[01:18] <nikolam> I used to go to debian dir in source
[01:18] <nikolam> and use README.source
[01:18] <nikolam> it is saying: dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -rfakeroot
[01:19] <tuga3d> oh, iĺl try that
[01:19] <tuga3d> do that work with scons?
[01:20] <nikolam> I dont know. Maybe you should read what instructions are in ./debian/README.source for every package?
[01:20] <tuga3d> yep, but that package isn't on the repositories.
[01:21] <mcsnakes> eej allemaal
[01:22] <mcsnakes> hi
[01:25] <nikolam> hello
[01:25] <mcsnakes> hello
[01:26] <mcsnakes> what if you have removed your startbalk?
[02:04] <barbender> hi folks, i am having a problem with seg fault in mplayer on gutsy install any ideas ?
[02:05] <tuga3d> good night! time to bed
[03:16] <mikubuntu> help... my friend just plugged an eth0 card into this old desktop but i can't get connection... when i run the connection mgr, it doesn't offer the choice including broadband, auto dchp connection, etc...
[03:28] <iateshaggy> han anyone help?
[03:28] <iateshaggy> *can
[03:30] <iateshaggy> anybody?
[03:31] <iateshaggy> i've had an instal go horribly wrong
[03:45] <mikubuntu> iateshaggy, what happened
[03:47] <mikubuntu> help... my friend just plugged an eth0 card into this old desktop but i can't get connection... when i run the connection mgr, it doesn't offer the choice including broadband, auto dchp connection, etc...
[03:47] <mikubuntu> just has choices for modem...
[03:53] <mikubuntu> iateshaggy, what happened maybe i can help.
[03:58] <iateshaggy> it fails to install when installing programs
[03:58] <iateshaggy> pool/main/l/lcms/liblcms1_1.16-5ubuntu3_i386.deb or my disk is corrupt
[03:59] <iateshaggy> message i get when scanning instal disk for errors
[04:02] <mikubuntu> ok, i'm no expert.  are you installing from the live cd, or from the alt installer cd?  alternate installer cd is more reliable during install.
[04:08] <mikubuntu> just has choices for modem...
[04:08] <mikubuntu> help... my friend just plugged an eth0 card into this old desktop but i can't get connection... when i run the connection mgr, it doesn't offer the choice including broadband, auto dchp connection, etc...
[04:18] <iateshaggy> alt instal
[06:14] <gerro> anyone know where I can find all information related to xfce applications menu?
[06:14] <gerro> I wish to do some editing of it
[06:15] <gerro> some themes for it might be nice
[07:45] <jmdc> My monitor goes into standby a couple of seconds into the installation boot. I can still hear the cd spinning though.
[11:54] <cherva> can someone help me fix my sound ? I have Yamaha DS-XG sound card. Xubuntu 7.04 didn't recognized it, so my sister installed alsa from source now this pc has sound but there is a static noise too how to fix that noise ?
[11:54] <gerro> hello
[11:55] <gerro> cherva: did you just install 7.04? latest xubuntu version is 7.10
[11:55] <gerro> cherva: I don't know what to say seeing as you compiled alsa yourself, hmm perhaps a cord is plugged in wrong or there is a short
[11:57] <cherva> gerro i tryed with headphones the noise is still there and it starts when xubuntu is loading so there must be something to do with the drivers
[11:57] <cherva> tried*
[11:57] <gerro> are you sure your plugged into the headphone jack?
[11:57] <cherva> :) yes
[11:57] <gerro> mine has several and some work but sound odd
[11:58] <gerro> cherva: is your computer a custom one or does it have a model code?
[11:59] <cherva> you mean  description: Low Profile Desktop Computer
[11:59] <cherva>     product: OptiPlex G1 350L+
[11:59] <cherva>     vendor: Dell Computer Corporation
[11:59] <cherva>     serial: 3LQDE
[11:59] <gerro> yeah optiplex something sounds like that's it
[11:59] <cherva> but the sound isn't integrated  its on PCI
[12:01] <gerro> sounds like most computers
[12:01] <cherva> lshw comes out with this http://pastebin.com/m47c8da7f  for multimedia
[12:01] <gerro> damn everything I google on this thing isn't in english
[12:02] <cherva> i know :)
[12:02] <gerro> thought I had wrong setting language in cookies or something :/
[12:02] <cherva> when i give up to search something in goole i come here :)
[12:02] <cherva> google*
[12:02] <gerro> might want to try ubuntu pastebin it a bit more legible and speedy
[12:03] <cherva> k
[12:04] <gerro> what does it say under lspci?
[12:05] <gerro> do you get any errors when you do "/etc/init.d/alsa restart"
[12:05] <cherva> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d1f987d36 nothing interesting
[12:05] <gerro> ah rev 03 just like some people have on forum
[12:06] <cherva> OMG how does my sister have sound on alsa restart i get bash: alsa: command not found
[12:07] <gerro> perhaps your not using alsa
[12:07] <cherva> alsamixer finds my card
[12:07] <cherva> oss has the same problem i tried it
[12:08] <gerro> hmm on gutsy that doesn't work either
[12:08] <gerro> guess its only older ubuntu
[12:08] <gerro> if you can restart the sound daemon in terminal though you could pinpoint any flaws
[12:08] <gerro> oh also check dmesg see if it has any listings about your sound card
[12:09] <cherva> sec
[12:10] <lightwise> hello, i got a question, i just installed xubuntu and im tired of my monitor shutting off after 15 minutes, and i can't find the power management settings to turn this off, any suggestions plz?
[12:12] <cherva> Apps-> Settings -> screensaver preferences -> in display modes look for blank after and in advanced look for display power managment
[12:12] <gerro> lightwise: you  mean the screensaver? does it have any power management options in the bios?
[12:13] <lightwise> i went to the screensaver menu, and there is no advanced.
[12:13] <gerro> yeah no advanced here either
[12:13] <lightwise> ive been searching for a while now.
[12:14] <gerro> is this a desktop computer?
[12:14] <lightwise> ya
[12:14] <gerro> try turning off acpi
[12:14] <lightwise> i am in xfce and they are telling me there isn't any powermanagment window
[12:14] <lightwise> what kind of bullshit is that?
[12:14] <gerro> if fans cut off or it does anything odd turn it back on
[12:15] <lightwise> i mean this looks like a sweet desktop
[12:15] <gerro> just some handle it internally without software
[12:15] <lightwise> but i dont wanna have to giggle my mouse after 15 minutes to keep from my monitor shutting off
[12:15] <lightwise> dude
[12:15] <lightwise> nothing is wrong with my bios
[12:15] <gerro> it sounds like your describing a screen saver.....
[12:15] <lightwise> its the damn desktop software
[12:16] <gerro> what sort of monitor are you using though?
[12:16] <lightwise> im in the screensaver menu now.
[12:16] <lightwise> there is nothing to turn off the power management.
[12:17] <gerro> uncheck activate screen saver when computer is idle
[12:17] <lightwise> i did
[12:17] <lightwise> no screensaver activates.
[12:17] <lightwise> it just turns the monitor off
[12:17] <lightwise> i dunno how to make this any clearer.
[12:17] <squirrelpimp> the computer stopped doing that here, after i unchecked that box
[12:18] <squirrelpimp> lightwise: maybe you  have some powersaving-features configures in your bios?
[12:18] <lightwise> no
[12:18] <gerro> does the monitor do that with other systems?
[12:18] <lightwise> no
[12:18] <lightwise> i think its pretty lame there isn't a menu for this shit.
[12:18] <gerro> for what?
[12:18] <squirrelpimp> lightwise: ever thought of using windows? it has a menu for that
[12:19] <squirrelpimp> :)
[12:19] <lightwise> im not asking too much here.
[12:19] <cherva> gerro there is nothing in dmesg but i still can't find what deamon is responable for my sound
[12:19] <lightwise> pal
[12:19] <gerro> lightwise: so your computer is idle 15 minutes and the monitor cuts off, isn't that a positive feature?
[12:20] <lightwise> ya its real positive when im trying to watch a movie.
[12:20] <lightwise> heh
[12:20] <gerro> I would be surprised if it isn't built into your hardware
[12:20] <squirrelpimp> lightwise: did you check your X-config?
[12:20] <gerro> check the monitors menu
[12:20] <squirrelpimp> i was able to deactivate that in screensavers settings with the above mentioned checkbox
[12:21] <gerro> lightwise: also check your movie players settings most have anti screensaver/idle things to prevent screen from blanking
[12:21] <squirrelpimp> it'd be helpful to have a screenshot of you power-related bios-settings as wel
[12:21] <squirrelpimp> :)
[12:21] <lightwise> im almost sorry i came in here asking for help
[12:21] <lightwise> its like calling comcast.
[12:21] <lightwise> for tech support
[12:22] <lightwise> nothing is in my bio shutting shit off morons
[12:22] <squirrelpimp> what's wrong? we told you where to look
[12:22] <squirrelpimp> now go do that
[12:22] <PriceChild> !ohmy | lightwise
[12:22] <ubotu> lightwise: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[12:22] <lightwise> its xfce, and they deemed it nesessary NOT to put a power management menu in to shut this bullshit off, which is beyond me.
[12:22] <lightwise> k
[12:22] <lightwise> im jus frustrated
[12:22] <squirrelpimp> or open up ssh root accounts and maybe one will look for you
[12:22] <squirrelpimp> lightwise: xfce is a window manager
[12:23] <squirrelpimp> it manages your windows, not your monitor
[12:23] <lightwise> you haven't told me anything i haven't already done squirrel.
[12:23] <gerro> actually xfwm is window manager xfce is desktop environment
[12:23] <squirrelpimp> you can install the gnome-settings-stuff and see, if you find something there
[12:23] <squirrelpimp> sometimes xfce lacks features already implemented in gnome
[12:24] <squirrelpimp> gerro: yes, of coure
[12:24] <squirrelpimp> s
[12:24] <gerro> squirrelpimp: helps to know incase you kill xfwm messing with compiz ^^
[12:24] <lightwise> ive even killed the screensaver process
[12:24] <lightwise> and it still shuts off
[12:25] <gerro> lightwise: can you please just list what model monitor your using
[12:25] <lightwise> why? do you really think my monitor is shutting off itself when in kde and gnome it doesnt?
[12:25] <lightwise> heh
[12:26] <gerro> I don't know really what to think you haven't given any information
[12:26] <lightwise> ya its ok, im about down with xubuntu.
[12:26] <lightwise> done too
[12:49] <xdaniel> hi, how can i know which version of xubuntu i'm using?
[12:52] <xdaniel> hi. Want to upgrade to xubuntu7.10. How can i know which version i'm using now?
[12:54] <predaeus> xdaniel, READ ALL OF THIS: I don't remember the command you are looking for, but you can hit ctrl-alt-F1 to switch to the terminal and read the version and hit ctrl-alt-F7 to get back to X.
[13:00] <xdaniel> it says "Ubuntu 6.10". It doen't make sense...
[13:01] <xdaniel> i'm sure i have installed xubuntu 7.04
[13:06] <shinobi> hey everyone. does anyone have any idea why my xubuntu box would refuse to mount an external fat32 drive partition? it mount a ext3 partition on the same drive.
[13:06] <shinobi> even shows up all four partitions on the desktop on connect, but will not mount the fat32 ones
[13:07] <shinobi> i just upgraded to gutsy an then did some trimming
[13:22] <xdaniel> which error it gives?
[15:03] <kksm19820117> Greetings all.
[15:05] <kksm19820117> I'm  am considering installing Xubuntu - a command line install - from an alternate CD and was wondering if I install xfce later using synaptic, will it automatically install thunar and xfburn, etc...? Is there a way I can find out?
[15:39] <gnomefreak> kksm19820117: you can install xubuntu-desktop i fyou like after server install and it will bring in everything for you that a standard xubuntu install would
[15:40] <kksm19820117> gnomefreak: That's what I'm trying to avoid. I want xfce, but not thunar and mousepad, etc...
[15:41] <gnomefreak> kksm19820117: you can install eerything separate than
[15:42] <gnomefreak> use apt-cache search xfce   sinc eyou will be in text only and install what you think you will need but its gonna be hard to not get thunar if you install any xfce gui apps
[15:42] <kksm19820117> gnomefreak: I can't figure the doifference between xfce and xfwm. If xfwm is only the window manager, that should do the trick, yes?
[15:43] <gnomefreak> kksm19820117: try it i have never installed it separate
[15:43] <kksm19820117> Ah, you mean apps like xfburn use thunar, do they?
[15:43] <gnomefreak> apt-cache show xfwm to see what the depends are
[15:43] <gnomefreak> kksm19820117: they might/sure they do depend on it
[15:44] <gnomefreak> when you use show look at the depends those are what WILL be installed with the app
[15:46] <kksm19820117> Looks like I could avoid thunar. Not bad.
[15:56] <jarnos> Have you got any success with offline IMs when using Pidgin?
[15:58] <jarnos> I continue conversation in #pidgin.
[17:29] <shadebug> can I assume this is a place for me to engage in some unfettered newbtardedness? If so, I was wondering if anybody could suggest some sort of comprehensive wireless networking tools which would allow me to scan for available networks and connect to them and the such
[17:33] <TheSheep> !wifi | shadebug
[17:33] <ubotu> shadebug: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:33] <TheSheep> shadebug: for start
[17:33] <shadebug> thank you kindly
[18:44] <freereign> hi
[19:49] <aladinsane> i just changed the filesystem on one of my drive from nfts to ext3 with Gparted, and now i want to be able to use this drive in Xubuntu but Thunar says i do not have the permissions to write to it, how do i change these permissions?
[19:49] <aladinsane> I can see it in Thunar and in Nautilus..
[19:49] <aladinsane> And this is a drive that wil forever be in the system, NOT just a temorary mount.
[19:55] <xue2zhe3> I need to make cheap international calls from America to China. I want to use an SIP client like Ekiga or Wengo. Does anyone have any experience or opinions to share?
[19:59] <aladinsane> I use Wengo for my Voip calls, it works perfectly with Voipstunt, which makes it free..
[20:00] <aladinsane> just install Wengo, and use sip.voipstunt.com as servers when they ask. Create an account on voipstunt.com first..
[20:01] <xue2zhe3> Ok I have 2 votes for Wengo. If I don´t get another vote then Wengo it is.
[20:02] <TheSheep> xue2zhe3: there is also gosspi
[20:02] <TheSheep> xue2zhe3: sorry
[20:03] <TheSheep> xue2zhe3: argh, I forgot the name
[20:03] <TheSheep> xue2zhe3: ah, gizmo
[20:05] <xue2zhe3> Yea I heard about Gizmo, but it is propriatary.
[20:05] <TheSheep> ah, right
[20:06] <aladinsane> I tried about 15 different voip thingies for xubuntu last week cause i wanted to use my voipstunt account, not one exept Wengo worked out good
[20:07] <evil_tech> blarg!! automounting isn't working again
[20:15] <xue2zhe3> Wengo wins! I´l use sip.voipstunt.com as well thanks.
[20:24] <aladinsane> xue2zhe3: i wish i had someone like me i week ago :)
[20:39] <Asbanol> hello @all
[20:40] <Asbanol> Does know how to get the ADI1988 codec to run? - I'm using Xubuntu 7.04
[21:01] <methods> how do i install xubuntu on kubuntu so it comes setup just like xubuntu woul?
[21:08] <zoredache> to install all the packages do an 'apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'
[21:09] <zoredache> After that you would probably want to remove kdm, and any other kde packages you don't want
[21:15] <Maenad> i have xubuntu 7.04 cd, can i install it and upgrade easily to 7.10?
[21:20] <methods> but how do i make it look like it was a xubuntu install ?
[21:36] <zoredache> Maenad: if you put the disk in the drive you can use apt-cdrom to add your cdrom as a source for packages...  then start a terminal and try running the command gksu "update-manager -c"
[21:37] <zoredache> methods: what do you mean 'look like'
[21:39] <Maenad> thanks
[21:50] <methods> i want it to act like i just installed xubuntu and have no kubuntu computer control
[21:50] <methods> but i still want to keep kubutnu installed too
[21:53] <zoredache> methods: that doesn't make sense to me...
[21:53] <methods> imagine you got a shiny new xubuntu cd and installed it
[21:53] <methods> i want it to look like that
[21:54] <zoredache> did you install the xubuntu-desktop package?
[21:54] <zoredache> if so, then that is what you should have
[22:02] <Maenad> is there a GUI tool for configuring netatalk in (x)ubuntu
[22:10] <methods> i dont even have any menu bars and stuff its not a default xfce desktop it looks like a half ass one
[22:42] <flyingfree> hello
[22:42] <flyingfree> If ubuntu is still showing during boot-up but I get the xubuntu login screen did I do something wrong in converting from ubuntu to xubuntu?
[22:43] <zoredache> no
[22:44] <zoredache> you just may want to change the splash screens...
[22:44] <flyingfree> when I converted my dapper from ubuntu to xubuntu it changed the bootup screen to xubntu logo and colors though
[22:45] <flyingfree> then when I upgraded to fiesty and tried the convert I kept the ubuntu logo and colours on the bootup screen
[22:45] <flyingfree> ohhh okay by boot-up screen I mean the little progress bar eh.
[22:46] <zoredache> sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[22:46] <zoredache> or at least that is what google suggests
[22:46] <flyingfree> is there a way to install screenlets in the xfce environ?
[22:46] <flyingfree> I have seen lots of gnome based discussion on it but little for xfce
[22:47] <flyingfree> how do you word these google requests to ge such good answers and ae you doing it at the main google web search?
[22:47] <zoredache> my spearch was 'ubuntu splash xubuntu'
[22:48] <flyingfree> in the web search area?
[22:48] <zoredache> and I know nothing about screenlets...
[22:48] <flyingfree> bugger
[22:48] <zoredache> yes, the web search
[22:48] <flyingfree> okay
[22:48] <flyingfree> thanks
[22:48] <flyingfree> anyone else with experience with screenlets in xubuntu?
[22:58] <feliciano> hi there... I'm trying to make xubuntu faster.. and I red to disable some services... But there is some that I dont Know... like avahi-daemon is sure disable it??
[23:00] <evil_tech> you could always google what they do
[23:01] <flyingfree> !screenlets
[23:01] <ubotu> Screenlets are little widgets for your !desktop. Note you must have !Compiz Fusion, !Beryl, xcompmgr, or KWin to run them. You can get them at http://www.screenlets.org/
[23:01] <feliciano> I dont found answer
[23:02] <flyingfree> !compiz
[23:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[23:03] <Pumpernickel> Avahi is a Zeroconf network service detection daemon.
[23:04] <feliciano> Pumpernickel.. Ok, I understand that... but I dont know what thats mean... Is usefull for me??
[23:10] <flyingfree> hello
[23:10] <flyingfree> wondering if compiz will work in xfce?
[23:10] <flyingfree> trying to get screenlets in my xfce desktop
[23:11] <flyingfree> running xubuntu fiesty
[23:11] <flyingfree> dshepherd are you from jamaica?
[23:11] <DShepherd> si
[23:11] <flyingfree> ccol
[23:11] <flyingfree> I knew the Mr. Jamaica body builder beck in the early 90's
[23:12] <DShepherd> k
[23:12] <flyingfree> not much traffic here
[23:14] <Maenad> hi i installed netatalk from synaptic package manager. can someone tell me how i would add a user who can connect to it?
[23:24] <tuga3d> hi all
[23:26] <tuga3d> how can i know the shared libs a file uses?
[23:26] <evil_tech> does google earth not work when you use compiz?
[23:31] <tuga3d> anyone
[23:32] <tuga3d> i'm compiling a software and i need to know the dependencies
[23:38] <Pumpernickel> tuga3d: `apt-get build-dep packagename`
[23:38] <Pumpernickel> If it hasn't been packaged for Ubuntu, you'll have to check the project documentation.
[23:39] <tuga3d> it hasn't been :( isn't there some command that tells me what libraries the executable needs?
[23:40] <Pumpernickel> Not if it hasn't been already prepared, no.
[23:41] <tuga3d> ok thanks!
[23:41] <Pumpernickel> flyingfree: Yes, compiz will work.  You'll probably want Emerald, too.
[23:45] <flyingfree> pumpernickel any ideas on how
[23:45] <flyingfree> I am in the compiz channell trying to figure it out
[23:45] <flyingfree> !emerald
[23:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:45] <Pumpernickel> !info emerald
[23:45] <ubotu> emerald: Decorator for compiz-fusion. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3~git20070717-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 198 kB, installed size 956 kB
[23:50] <flyingfree> okay installed
[23:50] <flyingfree> but I am getting a double buffer error when I try to compiz --replace in a terminal
[23:52] <flyingfree> !info cahnge to ubuntu
[23:52] <ubotu> Package cahnge does not exist in gutsy