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johnyIIforget it00:02
johnyIII guess I'll just have to go back to windows00:02
johnyII:(00:02
BurgundaviajohnyII: webcams suck, trust me00:12
johnnyyou prolly should post to a related list00:12
corrosionei boot to the ubuntu cd and it gives me errors...it then proceeds to load to the cd...once there i cant make out the text...but i click install anyway..next, next, next, starting up partioner...i cant make out the text except for resize partition...but i have another os on my hd and i have two partions..is there a safe way to tell it to install on the partition with no os..without being able to read the text02:33
corrosionecan anyone help me with this02:33
kgoetzi woudnt install on an unreadable system.02:34
corrosionewhy would it be unreadable02:34
ograthere are different VGA options in the boot menu of the CD, try another one02:34
johnnyhmm.. no scott today..02:34
corrosionewell thing is02:34
* johnny wonders what else to try02:34
corrosionehow do i chose them this is my first time doing a live install like this02:35
corrosionei have only messed with linux a few times..im trying to learn it..02:35
corrosionei mean you say chose other vga option like it gives me a choice02:36
corrosionemeaning it asks me..does it have display settings like windows?02:36
corrosioneor is it a command line thing02:36
ograoh, you are using the ubuntu liveCd ...02:37
ograthere is an option in the menu02:37
corrosionek ill retry it02:37
ograsytem-preferences->screen resolution or so ...02:37
corrosioneo and by the way02:37
corrosioneif it is giving me errors at boot02:38
ograyou can adjust it on the runing desktop02:38
corrosionebefore getting to cd02:38
corrosionei am assuming that is bad02:38
ograno idea02:38
corrosionek thx02:38
ograyou would have to show the errors02:38
corrosionedoesnt give me that long02:38
corrosionecan you do screen shot from boot?02:38
corrosione£aughing Out £oud02:38
ograif you install in a virtual machine you can .. but if there is really an error that will be depending on your HW so virtual machines wont help ... you can take photos though02:39
ograanyway, off to bed02:40
kgoetzlater mate02:40
=== LaserJock is now known as LaserRock_70s
geoerWhen I try to play a dvd in totem i get a message saying Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handel it. Do any of you know how to fix that / where is the plug in?07:44
=== LaserRock_70s is now known as LaserRock
=== RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd
LaserRockmorning RichEd09:37
RichEdhi LaserRock ? your jock become a rock ?09:41
LaserRockRichEd: see Planet09:41
LaserRockI'm heading to bed09:41
LaserRockgiving presentation at noon09:41
LaserRockstupid PhD09:41
LaserRock:-)09:41
RichEdLaserRock: saw the planet post ... also one from a stranger calling himself pete savage09:45
tsurcon a default edubuntu gutsy install what ports need to be open from the client to the server. just ssh?09:47
tsurcreason i ask is because I'm working on installing squid dansguardian transparent proxy on the server, I have it working but my iptable rule that forwards all users to the proxy seams to prevent anyone logging in09:49
=== meduxa is now known as toscalix
tsurceverything quiet on the Preston front?11:26
Baueri fail to delete de deskbar applet, or any other items on the top panel in sabayon. when i press delete, it exits11:39
BauerGot fatal error: sabayon-session exited with a FATAL ERROR (exit code 1)11:40
rafaelcardososkype works with ltsp?12:07
effie_jayxRichEd,  ping12:20
RichEdhi effie_jayx12:20
effie_jayxRichEd, hey :D. any news ?12:21
RichEdeffie_jayx: I'll be contacting Intel today ... will keep you in the loop12:21
effie_jayxRichEd,  great... I met with the teaching giving feedback12:21
effie_jayxwe are working into new features.12:22
effie_jayxlike having the school rules somewhere in the app12:22
effie_jayxand even lab rules12:22
effie_jayxand a comprehensive list od deadlines for the schoolyear12:22
RichEdand ? great ... if you could show that "given a test device, you could get them to actively test and comment and make suggestions for improvement" that would be a winning argument in my opinion12:22
effie_jayxRichEd, in my request?12:23
RichEddo you have that "argument" in the wiki pages yet ? i'll do a final read ... and comment if i think you need to make any changes12:24
rafaelcardosoto skype work, server must have a sound card?12:26
Bauersound card in the client should be enough.. sound works nice here12:27
rafaelcardosohere too but skype fails12:33
rafaelcardosocall failed problem with audio playback12:34
Bauerweird, sounds like a problem with the sound setup in skype13:00
rafaelcardosomaybe13:06
rafaelcardosoI can´t change devices, but shows me default device13:07
sbalneavMorning all14:58
RichEdsco sco sco scottieeeee15:04
ograaww ...15:05
ograevil abbreviation15:05
* RichEd waves to sbalneav from sunny south africa ... 21C or 69.8F15:06
stgraberyou are lucky :), it's like -2°C here :)15:08
* ogra has +6°C to offer here15:09
rafaelcardosohi all, I have one installation of edubuntu works fine with ltsp, have one or two troubles, but a big question is, I can make an script to login directly in dosemu?15:13
* RichEd sees your paltry temperatures and raises you a 6:46 sunset time15:18
ograogra@laptop:~$ scp gutsy-server-i386.iso ogra@people.ubuntu.com:/home/ogra15:27
ogragutsy-server-i386.iso        100%  693MB 231.2KB/s   51:1115:27
* ogra hugs his new line15:27
sbalneav:)15:29
stgraberthat's the reason why I like being at school and using their bandwidth, that's really really useful for huge upload :)15:29
sbalneavnot so sunny here today.15:29
stgraber2x1Gb/s fiber so 100Mb/s symetrical for me :)15:30
ogranot having to drive 300km to reach my server physically is a huge improvement ;)15:30
stgraberindeed :)15:30
* ogra is just setting up his 19" cabinet in the basement ... building a little datacenter15:31
RichEdogra: i thought you said decanter15:53
RichEda drinks cabinet15:53
ograwe have decanters already ... and a wine cellar :)16:01
rafaelcardosohow run dosemu over ltsp16:04
ograrafaelcardoso, create an ~/.xsession script that starts an xterm with dosemu would be one option16:05
ogra(but there are tons f others)16:05
rafaelcardosogreat thanks16:06
ograldm will only attempt to execute /etc/X11/Xsession ...16:06
ograthats what a normal ubuntu or debian does as well, so any documentation for X session management will apply to ltsp settings as well, if you find a xsession script for dosemu that runs on a normal debian/ubuntu you will be able to use it16:08
rafaelcardosohave a little trouble when i change lts.conf, put screen_01 = rdesktop for example, don't boot16:09
rafaelcardosousing config by mac address like examples on site16:10
ograthats because rdesktop isnt instaled16:10
rafaelcardosochroot and install?16:11
ograright16:11
rafaelcardosogood thanks16:11
johnnyhi16:20
johnnysbalneav, i ssh -X as you suggested for testing my autologin issue, that worked fine16:24
rafaelcardosowhi skype push sound configuration for my server16:31
rafaelcardososound on thin client works fine16:31
johnnyskype is evil..16:32
rafaelcardosocool16:32
ograskype would have to use alsa for sound ...16:32
ograand there is no capturing device setup on thin clients atm ...16:33
ograso you need to fiddle with that manually16:33
bddebianHeya16:40
sbalneavjohnny: ok, well, it's something else then.17:16
johnnythere are more comments on the bug with similiar experiences now17:17
sbalneavYep, I've seen.17:18
sbalneavAny indication of error in /var/log/ldm.log on the thin client itself?17:18
johnnyno17:18
johnnyit just stops17:18
johnnyno ctrl + alt + f117:19
sbalneavThat indicates X has hung17:19
johnnylast thing i see on the console when doing export LDM_USERNAME + LDM_PASSWORD  and then starting ldm manually is the word hostname17:19
johnnyappearing right after the command17:19
johnnyand also "in get_userid"17:20
sbalneavIs "in get_userid" the last message in ldm.log?17:20
johnnyyes17:22
johnnyoh. no i don't think that is logged17:22
johnnyit just shows up in the console17:22
johnnyafter doing ldm vt7 :017:22
johnnymanually17:22
sbalneavSo, after that, the thin client hangs, and doesn't respond to keyboard events?17:24
johnnycorrect, but the mouse moves17:27
sbalneavcan you hit control-alt-backspace?17:28
johnnyaha.. forgot to try that17:28
=== LaserRock is now known as LaserJock
johnny_sbalneav, i'm testing the backspace thing now, finally got a hold of a computer19:07
highvoltagegoodnight edubunteros19:08
johnny_are the thin clients supposed to have a splash screen?19:13
johnny_sbalneav, no, ctrl + alt + backspace doesn't work19:13
sbalneavjohnny_: ok, thanks19:27
sbalneavso, something's latched up.19:27
johnny_anything else you want me to try while i got a free computer19:29
=== Ikiliki[God] is now known as Ilikekeke
sbalneavI can't think of anything right at the moment, and I'm at work, and trying to catch up from being away for 10 days, so right at the moment, no :)19:31
IlikekekeThere is no op here?19:31
johnny_oh, i thought you'd been back for awhile19:32
Ilikekekebrb19:32
EhPrettyEasyESCAPE??!19:32
sbalneavjohnny_: I have, about a week and a bit.19:33
johnny_i wish i understood more C stuff19:35
sbalneavQuick way to fix that.19:35
johnny_i wish, i have enough duties at our worker owned coffeehouse already :)19:36
johnny_still need to  patch up our scheduling application ,and add a new feature to our point of sale19:37
sbalneavyeah, well, I have my regular job, plus Edubuntu, plus upstream for LTSP, plus hang out in the channel and help anyone in the world with a problem.  Plus wife, two kids, etc.  :)19:38
johnny_regular job?19:39
johnny_what do you do?19:39
johnny_yeah i do the same thing for my open source project..19:39
sbalneavI'm the sysadmin for Legal Aid Manitoba.19:39
sbalneavAnd the manager of the systems department.19:39
johnny_so do use ltsp there?19:39
johnny_is there a way to run the old python ldm still?19:40
johnny_at least i can hack that one :)19:40
sbalneavYup, I use LTSP here19:43
johnny_at least i could fix that one19:47
sbalneavThe python one didn't support autologon anyway19:48
johnny_yes it did19:49
johnny_i was using it19:49
johnny_with the LDM_USERNAME="hostname|"19:50
johnny_you helped me set it up :)19:50
sbalneavThat was an unofficial mod19:50
johnny_aha.. i forgot19:50
johnny_i was using it so long19:50
johnny_it worked great19:50
sbalneavWell, this one works too.  At least at home it does :)19:51
sbalneavwhy it's not working for you I don't know19:51
johnny_prolly something minior19:51
johnny_minor*19:51
johnny_and for all the people on the list who have the same problem19:51
johnny_err bug list19:51
sbalneavWell, we'll figure it out eventually.19:52
johnny_that guy who posted to the ML, i'd like to get back together with him to work on it, but he hasn't reappeared since :)19:54
sbalneavwho, gadi?19:56
johnny_no20:03
johnny_francis20:03
johnny_he was helping me initially with debugging with ldm220:03
johnny_that user he mentioned in the ML post was me20:03
nixternalsbalneav: how much of a machine would be needed to run ltsp on a machine that say, at a max, 50 computers would connect to at any given time?20:39
sbalneavnixternal: Well, you'd want something on the order of a dual xenon20:47
sbalneavprolly at least 4-6 gigs of ram.20:48
=== moquist_ is now known as moquist
LaserJockogra1: you around?21:20
ogra1LaserJock, yup, with half an eye21:36
LaserJockogra1: I figured out our gcompris translation problem21:37
LaserJockogra1: and will fix it for Hardy when I do the merge21:37
ogra1hey, thanks21:37
ogra1but you can also leave that to me21:38
LaserJockogra1: and am going to send carlos a Gutsy .pot so that we can reinsert the translations into the lang pack updates21:38
ogra1the new structure leaves me not much develpment time on other but edu apps21:38
LaserJockogra1: I'll fix this one, it's my fault in the first place I believe21:38
ogra1so as soon as CD and ltsp upstream are sorted i'll turn into a plain edu maintainer21:39
=== ogra1 is now known as ogra
LaserJockogra: great21:40
LaserJockthere are quite a few bugs out there to get fixed up21:40
ograyeah21:40
ograwell, i fear to get bored after some time21:40
ograbut lets see ... being bored one release might also not e bad :)21:41
ogra*be21:41
LaserJockwell, we might have a better chance of doing some need polishing21:49
LaserJock*needed21:49
ograi doubt that for hardy though21:51
ograto much new stuff21:51
ograand to much odl stuff for me to sort out21:51
ogra*old21:51
LaserJockI'm sure there will be enough to do21:52

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