[00:02] forget it [00:02] I guess I'll just have to go back to windows [00:02] :( [00:12] johnyII: webcams suck, trust me [00:12] you prolly should post to a related list [02:33] i boot to the ubuntu cd and it gives me errors...it then proceeds to load to the cd...once there i cant make out the text...but i click install anyway..next, next, next, starting up partioner...i cant make out the text except for resize partition...but i have another os on my hd and i have two partions..is there a safe way to tell it to install on the partition with no os..without being able to read the text [02:33] can anyone help me with this [02:34] i woudnt install on an unreadable system. [02:34] why would it be unreadable [02:34] there are different VGA options in the boot menu of the CD, try another one [02:34] hmm.. no scott today.. [02:34] well thing is [02:34] * johnny wonders what else to try [02:35] how do i chose them this is my first time doing a live install like this [02:35] i have only messed with linux a few times..im trying to learn it.. [02:36] i mean you say chose other vga option like it gives me a choice [02:36] meaning it asks me..does it have display settings like windows? [02:36] or is it a command line thing [02:37] oh, you are using the ubuntu liveCd ... [02:37] there is an option in the menu [02:37] k ill retry it [02:37] sytem-preferences->screen resolution or so ... [02:37] o and by the way [02:38] if it is giving me errors at boot [02:38] you can adjust it on the runing desktop [02:38] before getting to cd [02:38] i am assuming that is bad [02:38] no idea [02:38] k thx [02:38] you would have to show the errors [02:38] doesnt give me that long [02:38] can you do screen shot from boot? [02:38] £aughing Out £oud [02:39] if you install in a virtual machine you can .. but if there is really an error that will be depending on your HW so virtual machines wont help ... you can take photos though [02:40] anyway, off to bed [02:40] later mate === LaserJock is now known as LaserRock_70s [07:44] When I try to play a dvd in totem i get a message saying Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handel it. Do any of you know how to fix that / where is the plug in? === LaserRock_70s is now known as LaserRock === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd [09:37] morning RichEd [09:41] hi LaserRock ? your jock become a rock ? [09:41] RichEd: see Planet [09:41] I'm heading to bed [09:41] giving presentation at noon [09:41] stupid PhD [09:41] :-) [09:45] LaserRock: saw the planet post ... also one from a stranger calling himself pete savage [09:47] on a default edubuntu gutsy install what ports need to be open from the client to the server. just ssh? [09:49] reason i ask is because I'm working on installing squid dansguardian transparent proxy on the server, I have it working but my iptable rule that forwards all users to the proxy seams to prevent anyone logging in === meduxa is now known as toscalix [11:26] everything quiet on the Preston front? [11:39] i fail to delete de deskbar applet, or any other items on the top panel in sabayon. when i press delete, it exits [11:40] Got fatal error: sabayon-session exited with a FATAL ERROR (exit code 1) [12:07] skype works with ltsp? [12:20] RichEd, ping [12:20] hi effie_jayx [12:21] RichEd, hey :D. any news ? [12:21] effie_jayx: I'll be contacting Intel today ... will keep you in the loop [12:21] RichEd, great... I met with the teaching giving feedback [12:22] we are working into new features. [12:22] like having the school rules somewhere in the app [12:22] and even lab rules [12:22] and a comprehensive list od deadlines for the schoolyear [12:22] and ? great ... if you could show that "given a test device, you could get them to actively test and comment and make suggestions for improvement" that would be a winning argument in my opinion [12:23] RichEd, in my request? [12:24] do you have that "argument" in the wiki pages yet ? i'll do a final read ... and comment if i think you need to make any changes [12:26] to skype work, server must have a sound card? [12:27] sound card in the client should be enough.. sound works nice here [12:33] here too but skype fails [12:34] call failed problem with audio playback [13:00] weird, sounds like a problem with the sound setup in skype [13:06] maybe [13:07] I can´t change devices, but shows me default device [14:58] Morning all [15:04] sco sco sco scottieeeee [15:05] aww ... [15:05] evil abbreviation [15:06] * RichEd waves to sbalneav from sunny south africa ... 21C or 69.8F [15:08] you are lucky :), it's like -2°C here :) [15:09] * ogra has +6°C to offer here [15:13] hi all, I have one installation of edubuntu works fine with ltsp, have one or two troubles, but a big question is, I can make an script to login directly in dosemu? [15:18] * RichEd sees your paltry temperatures and raises you a 6:46 sunset time [15:27] ogra@laptop:~$ scp gutsy-server-i386.iso ogra@people.ubuntu.com:/home/ogra [15:27] gutsy-server-i386.iso 100% 693MB 231.2KB/s 51:11 [15:27] * ogra hugs his new line [15:29] :) [15:29] that's the reason why I like being at school and using their bandwidth, that's really really useful for huge upload :) [15:29] not so sunny here today. [15:30] 2x1Gb/s fiber so 100Mb/s symetrical for me :) [15:30] not having to drive 300km to reach my server physically is a huge improvement ;) [15:30] indeed :) [15:31] * ogra is just setting up his 19" cabinet in the basement ... building a little datacenter [15:53] ogra: i thought you said decanter [15:53] a drinks cabinet [16:01] we have decanters already ... and a wine cellar :) [16:04] how run dosemu over ltsp [16:05] rafaelcardoso, create an ~/.xsession script that starts an xterm with dosemu would be one option [16:05] (but there are tons f others) [16:06] great thanks [16:06] ldm will only attempt to execute /etc/X11/Xsession ... [16:08] thats what a normal ubuntu or debian does as well, so any documentation for X session management will apply to ltsp settings as well, if you find a xsession script for dosemu that runs on a normal debian/ubuntu you will be able to use it [16:09] have a little trouble when i change lts.conf, put screen_01 = rdesktop for example, don't boot [16:10] using config by mac address like examples on site [16:10] thats because rdesktop isnt instaled [16:11] chroot and install? [16:11] right [16:11] good thanks [16:20] hi [16:24] sbalneav, i ssh -X as you suggested for testing my autologin issue, that worked fine [16:31] whi skype push sound configuration for my server [16:31] sound on thin client works fine [16:32] skype is evil.. [16:32] cool [16:32] skype would have to use alsa for sound ... [16:33] and there is no capturing device setup on thin clients atm ... [16:33] so you need to fiddle with that manually [16:40] Heya [17:16] johnny: ok, well, it's something else then. [17:17] there are more comments on the bug with similiar experiences now [17:18] Yep, I've seen. [17:18] Any indication of error in /var/log/ldm.log on the thin client itself? [17:18] no [17:18] it just stops [17:19] no ctrl + alt + f1 [17:19] That indicates X has hung [17:19] last thing i see on the console when doing export LDM_USERNAME + LDM_PASSWORD and then starting ldm manually is the word hostname [17:19] appearing right after the command [17:20] and also "in get_userid" [17:20] Is "in get_userid" the last message in ldm.log? [17:22] yes [17:22] oh. no i don't think that is logged [17:22] it just shows up in the console [17:22] after doing ldm vt7 :0 [17:22] manually [17:24] So, after that, the thin client hangs, and doesn't respond to keyboard events? [17:27] correct, but the mouse moves [17:28] can you hit control-alt-backspace? [17:28] aha.. forgot to try that === LaserRock is now known as LaserJock [19:07] sbalneav, i'm testing the backspace thing now, finally got a hold of a computer [19:08] goodnight edubunteros [19:13] are the thin clients supposed to have a splash screen? [19:13] sbalneav, no, ctrl + alt + backspace doesn't work [19:27] johnny_: ok, thanks [19:27] so, something's latched up. [19:29] anything else you want me to try while i got a free computer === Ikiliki[God] is now known as Ilikekeke [19:31] I can't think of anything right at the moment, and I'm at work, and trying to catch up from being away for 10 days, so right at the moment, no :) [19:31] There is no op here? [19:32] oh, i thought you'd been back for awhile [19:32] brb [19:32] ESCAPE??! [19:33] johnny_: I have, about a week and a bit. [19:35] i wish i understood more C stuff [19:35] Quick way to fix that. [19:36] i wish, i have enough duties at our worker owned coffeehouse already :) [19:37] still need to patch up our scheduling application ,and add a new feature to our point of sale [19:38] yeah, well, I have my regular job, plus Edubuntu, plus upstream for LTSP, plus hang out in the channel and help anyone in the world with a problem. Plus wife, two kids, etc. :) [19:39] regular job? [19:39] what do you do? [19:39] yeah i do the same thing for my open source project.. [19:39] I'm the sysadmin for Legal Aid Manitoba. [19:39] And the manager of the systems department. [19:39] so do use ltsp there? [19:40] is there a way to run the old python ldm still? [19:40] at least i can hack that one :) [19:43] Yup, I use LTSP here [19:47] at least i could fix that one [19:48] The python one didn't support autologon anyway [19:49] yes it did [19:49] i was using it [19:50] with the LDM_USERNAME="hostname|" [19:50] you helped me set it up :) [19:50] That was an unofficial mod [19:50] aha.. i forgot [19:50] i was using it so long [19:50] it worked great [19:51] Well, this one works too. At least at home it does :) [19:51] why it's not working for you I don't know [19:51] prolly something minior [19:51] minor* [19:51] and for all the people on the list who have the same problem [19:51] err bug list [19:52] Well, we'll figure it out eventually. [19:54] that guy who posted to the ML, i'd like to get back together with him to work on it, but he hasn't reappeared since :) [19:56] who, gadi? [20:03] no [20:03] francis [20:03] he was helping me initially with debugging with ldm2 [20:03] that user he mentioned in the ML post was me [20:39] sbalneav: how much of a machine would be needed to run ltsp on a machine that say, at a max, 50 computers would connect to at any given time? [20:47] nixternal: Well, you'd want something on the order of a dual xenon [20:48] prolly at least 4-6 gigs of ram. === moquist_ is now known as moquist [21:20] ogra1: you around? [21:36] LaserJock, yup, with half an eye [21:37] ogra1: I figured out our gcompris translation problem [21:37] ogra1: and will fix it for Hardy when I do the merge [21:37] hey, thanks [21:38] but you can also leave that to me [21:38] ogra1: and am going to send carlos a Gutsy .pot so that we can reinsert the translations into the lang pack updates [21:38] the new structure leaves me not much develpment time on other but edu apps [21:38] ogra1: I'll fix this one, it's my fault in the first place I believe [21:39] so as soon as CD and ltsp upstream are sorted i'll turn into a plain edu maintainer === ogra1 is now known as ogra [21:40] ogra: great [21:40] there are quite a few bugs out there to get fixed up [21:40] yeah [21:40] well, i fear to get bored after some time [21:41] but lets see ... being bored one release might also not e bad :) [21:41] *be [21:49] well, we might have a better chance of doing some need polishing [21:49] *needed [21:51] i doubt that for hardy though [21:51] to much new stuff [21:51] and to much odl stuff for me to sort out [21:51] *old [21:52] I'm sure there will be enough to do