[00:02] <johnyII> forget it
[00:02] <johnyII> I guess I'll just have to go back to windows
[00:02] <johnyII> :(
[00:12] <Burgundavia> johnyII: webcams suck, trust me
[00:12] <johnny> you prolly should post to a related list
[02:33] <corrosione> i boot to the ubuntu cd and it gives me errors...it then proceeds to load to the cd...once there i cant make out the text...but i click install anyway..next, next, next, starting up partioner...i cant make out the text except for resize partition...but i have another os on my hd and i have two partions..is there a safe way to tell it to install on the partition with no os..without being able to read the text
[02:33] <corrosione> can anyone help me with this
[02:34] <kgoetz> i woudnt install on an unreadable system.
[02:34] <corrosione> why would it be unreadable
[02:34] <ogra> there are different VGA options in the boot menu of the CD, try another one
[02:34] <johnny> hmm.. no scott today..
[02:34] <corrosione> well thing is
[02:34]  * johnny wonders what else to try
[02:35] <corrosione> how do i chose them this is my first time doing a live install like this
[02:35] <corrosione> i have only messed with linux a few times..im trying to learn it..
[02:36] <corrosione> i mean you say chose other vga option like it gives me a choice
[02:36] <corrosione> meaning it asks me..does it have display settings like windows?
[02:36] <corrosione> or is it a command line thing
[02:37] <ogra> oh, you are using the ubuntu liveCd ...
[02:37] <ogra> there is an option in the menu
[02:37] <corrosione> k ill retry it
[02:37] <ogra> sytem-preferences->screen resolution or so ...
[02:37] <corrosione> o and by the way
[02:38] <corrosione> if it is giving me errors at boot
[02:38] <ogra> you can adjust it on the runing desktop
[02:38] <corrosione> before getting to cd
[02:38] <corrosione> i am assuming that is bad
[02:38] <ogra> no idea
[02:38] <corrosione> k thx
[02:38] <ogra> you would have to show the errors
[02:38] <corrosione> doesnt give me that long
[02:38] <corrosione> can you do screen shot from boot?
[02:38] <corrosione> £aughing Out £oud
[02:39] <ogra> if you install in a virtual machine you can .. but if there is really an error that will be depending on your HW so virtual machines wont help ... you can take photos though
[02:40] <ogra> anyway, off to bed
[02:40] <kgoetz> later mate
[07:44] <geoer> When I try to play a dvd in totem i get a message saying Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handel it. Do any of you know how to fix that / where is the plug in?
[09:37] <LaserRock> morning RichEd
[09:41] <RichEd> hi LaserRock ? your jock become a rock ?
[09:41] <LaserRock> RichEd: see Planet
[09:41] <LaserRock> I'm heading to bed
[09:41] <LaserRock> giving presentation at noon
[09:41] <LaserRock> stupid PhD
[09:41] <LaserRock> :-)
[09:45] <RichEd> LaserRock: saw the planet post ... also one from a stranger calling himself pete savage
[09:47] <tsurc> on a default edubuntu gutsy install what ports need to be open from the client to the server. just ssh?
[09:49] <tsurc> reason i ask is because I'm working on installing squid dansguardian transparent proxy on the server, I have it working but my iptable rule that forwards all users to the proxy seams to prevent anyone logging in
[11:26] <tsurc> everything quiet on the Preston front?
[11:39] <Bauer> i fail to delete de deskbar applet, or any other items on the top panel in sabayon. when i press delete, it exits
[11:40] <Bauer> Got fatal error: sabayon-session exited with a FATAL ERROR (exit code 1)
[12:07] <rafaelcardoso> skype works with ltsp?
[12:20] <effie_jayx> RichEd,  ping
[12:20] <RichEd> hi effie_jayx
[12:21] <effie_jayx> RichEd, hey :D. any news ?
[12:21] <RichEd> effie_jayx: I'll be contacting Intel today ... will keep you in the loop
[12:21] <effie_jayx> RichEd,  great... I met with the teaching giving feedback
[12:22] <effie_jayx> we are working into new features.
[12:22] <effie_jayx> like having the school rules somewhere in the app
[12:22] <effie_jayx> and even lab rules
[12:22] <effie_jayx> and a comprehensive list od deadlines for the schoolyear
[12:22] <RichEd> and ? great ... if you could show that "given a test device, you could get them to actively test and comment and make suggestions for improvement" that would be a winning argument in my opinion
[12:23] <effie_jayx> RichEd, in my request?
[12:24] <RichEd> do you have that "argument" in the wiki pages yet ? i'll do a final read ... and comment if i think you need to make any changes
[12:26] <rafaelcardoso> to skype work, server must have a sound card?
[12:27] <Bauer> sound card in the client should be enough.. sound works nice here
[12:33] <rafaelcardoso> here too but skype fails
[12:34] <rafaelcardoso> call failed problem with audio playback
[13:00] <Bauer> weird, sounds like a problem with the sound setup in skype
[13:06] <rafaelcardoso> maybe
[13:07] <rafaelcardoso> I can´t change devices, but shows me default device
[14:58] <sbalneav> Morning all
[15:04] <RichEd> sco sco sco scottieeeee
[15:05] <ogra> aww ...
[15:05] <ogra> evil abbreviation
[15:06]  * RichEd waves to sbalneav from sunny south africa ... 21C or 69.8F
[15:08] <stgraber> you are lucky :), it's like -2°C here :)
[15:09]  * ogra has +6°C to offer here
[15:13] <rafaelcardoso> hi all, I have one installation of edubuntu works fine with ltsp, have one or two troubles, but a big question is, I can make an script to login directly in dosemu?
[15:18]  * RichEd sees your paltry temperatures and raises you a 6:46 sunset time
[15:27] <ogra> ogra@laptop:~$ scp gutsy-server-i386.iso ogra@people.ubuntu.com:/home/ogra
[15:27] <ogra> gutsy-server-i386.iso        100%  693MB 231.2KB/s   51:11
[15:27]  * ogra hugs his new line
[15:29] <sbalneav> :)
[15:29] <stgraber> that's the reason why I like being at school and using their bandwidth, that's really really useful for huge upload :)
[15:29] <sbalneav> not so sunny here today.
[15:30] <stgraber> 2x1Gb/s fiber so 100Mb/s symetrical for me :)
[15:30] <ogra> not having to drive 300km to reach my server physically is a huge improvement ;)
[15:30] <stgraber> indeed :)
[15:31]  * ogra is just setting up his 19" cabinet in the basement ... building a little datacenter
[15:53] <RichEd> ogra: i thought you said decanter
[15:53] <RichEd> a drinks cabinet
[16:01] <ogra> we have decanters already ... and a wine cellar :)
[16:04] <rafaelcardoso> how run dosemu over ltsp
[16:05] <ogra> rafaelcardoso, create an ~/.xsession script that starts an xterm with dosemu would be one option
[16:05] <ogra> (but there are tons f others)
[16:06] <rafaelcardoso> great thanks
[16:06] <ogra> ldm will only attempt to execute /etc/X11/Xsession ...
[16:08] <ogra> thats what a normal ubuntu or debian does as well, so any documentation for X session management will apply to ltsp settings as well, if you find a xsession script for dosemu that runs on a normal debian/ubuntu you will be able to use it
[16:09] <rafaelcardoso> have a little trouble when i change lts.conf, put screen_01 = rdesktop for example, don't boot
[16:10] <rafaelcardoso> using config by mac address like examples on site
[16:10] <ogra> thats because rdesktop isnt instaled
[16:11] <rafaelcardoso> chroot and install?
[16:11] <ogra> right
[16:11] <rafaelcardoso> good thanks
[16:20] <johnny> hi
[16:24] <johnny> sbalneav, i ssh -X as you suggested for testing my autologin issue, that worked fine
[16:31] <rafaelcardoso> whi skype push sound configuration for my server
[16:31] <rafaelcardoso> sound on thin client works fine
[16:32] <johnny> skype is evil..
[16:32] <rafaelcardoso> cool
[16:32] <ogra> skype would have to use alsa for sound ...
[16:33] <ogra> and there is no capturing device setup on thin clients atm ...
[16:33] <ogra> so you need to fiddle with that manually
[16:40] <bddebian> Heya
[17:16] <sbalneav> johnny: ok, well, it's something else then.
[17:17] <johnny> there are more comments on the bug with similiar experiences now
[17:18] <sbalneav> Yep, I've seen.
[17:18] <sbalneav> Any indication of error in /var/log/ldm.log on the thin client itself?
[17:18] <johnny> no
[17:18] <johnny> it just stops
[17:19] <johnny> no ctrl + alt + f1
[17:19] <sbalneav> That indicates X has hung
[17:19] <johnny> last thing i see on the console when doing export LDM_USERNAME + LDM_PASSWORD  and then starting ldm manually is the word hostname
[17:19] <johnny> appearing right after the command
[17:20] <johnny> and also "in get_userid"
[17:20] <sbalneav> Is "in get_userid" the last message in ldm.log?
[17:22] <johnny> yes
[17:22] <johnny> oh. no i don't think that is logged
[17:22] <johnny> it just shows up in the console
[17:22] <johnny> after doing ldm vt7 :0
[17:22] <johnny> manually
[17:24] <sbalneav> So, after that, the thin client hangs, and doesn't respond to keyboard events?
[17:27] <johnny> correct, but the mouse moves
[17:28] <sbalneav> can you hit control-alt-backspace?
[17:28] <johnny> aha.. forgot to try that
[19:07] <johnny_> sbalneav, i'm testing the backspace thing now, finally got a hold of a computer
[19:08] <highvoltage> goodnight edubunteros
[19:13] <johnny_> are the thin clients supposed to have a splash screen?
[19:13] <johnny_> sbalneav, no, ctrl + alt + backspace doesn't work
[19:27] <sbalneav> johnny_: ok, thanks
[19:27] <sbalneav> so, something's latched up.
[19:29] <johnny_> anything else you want me to try while i got a free computer
[19:31] <sbalneav> I can't think of anything right at the moment, and I'm at work, and trying to catch up from being away for 10 days, so right at the moment, no :)
[19:31] <Ilikekeke> There is no op here?
[19:32] <johnny_> oh, i thought you'd been back for awhile
[19:32] <Ilikekeke> brb
[19:32] <EhPrettyEasy> ESCAPE??!
[19:33] <sbalneav> johnny_: I have, about a week and a bit.
[19:35] <johnny_> i wish i understood more C stuff
[19:35] <sbalneav> Quick way to fix that.
[19:36] <johnny_> i wish, i have enough duties at our worker owned coffeehouse already :)
[19:37] <johnny_> still need to  patch up our scheduling application ,and add a new feature to our point of sale
[19:38] <sbalneav> yeah, well, I have my regular job, plus Edubuntu, plus upstream for LTSP, plus hang out in the channel and help anyone in the world with a problem.  Plus wife, two kids, etc.  :)
[19:39] <johnny_> regular job?
[19:39] <johnny_> what do you do?
[19:39] <johnny_> yeah i do the same thing for my open source project..
[19:39] <sbalneav> I'm the sysadmin for Legal Aid Manitoba.
[19:39] <sbalneav> And the manager of the systems department.
[19:39] <johnny_> so do use ltsp there?
[19:40] <johnny_> is there a way to run the old python ldm still?
[19:40] <johnny_> at least i can hack that one :)
[19:43] <sbalneav> Yup, I use LTSP here
[19:47] <johnny_> at least i could fix that one
[19:48] <sbalneav> The python one didn't support autologon anyway
[19:49] <johnny_> yes it did
[19:49] <johnny_> i was using it
[19:50] <johnny_> with the LDM_USERNAME="hostname|"
[19:50] <johnny_> you helped me set it up :)
[19:50] <sbalneav> That was an unofficial mod
[19:50] <johnny_> aha.. i forgot
[19:50] <johnny_> i was using it so long
[19:50] <johnny_> it worked great
[19:51] <sbalneav> Well, this one works too.  At least at home it does :)
[19:51] <sbalneav> why it's not working for you I don't know
[19:51] <johnny_> prolly something minior
[19:51] <johnny_> minor*
[19:51] <johnny_> and for all the people on the list who have the same problem
[19:51] <johnny_> err bug list
[19:52] <sbalneav> Well, we'll figure it out eventually.
[19:54] <johnny_> that guy who posted to the ML, i'd like to get back together with him to work on it, but he hasn't reappeared since :)
[19:56] <sbalneav> who, gadi?
[20:03] <johnny_> no
[20:03] <johnny_> francis
[20:03] <johnny_> he was helping me initially with debugging with ldm2
[20:03] <johnny_> that user he mentioned in the ML post was me
[20:39] <nixternal> sbalneav: how much of a machine would be needed to run ltsp on a machine that say, at a max, 50 computers would connect to at any given time?
[20:47] <sbalneav> nixternal: Well, you'd want something on the order of a dual xenon
[20:48] <sbalneav> prolly at least 4-6 gigs of ram.
[21:20] <LaserJock> ogra1: you around?
[21:36] <ogra1> LaserJock, yup, with half an eye
[21:37] <LaserJock> ogra1: I figured out our gcompris translation problem
[21:37] <LaserJock> ogra1: and will fix it for Hardy when I do the merge
[21:37] <ogra1> hey, thanks
[21:38] <ogra1> but you can also leave that to me
[21:38] <LaserJock> ogra1: and am going to send carlos a Gutsy .pot so that we can reinsert the translations into the lang pack updates
[21:38] <ogra1> the new structure leaves me not much develpment time on other but edu apps
[21:38] <LaserJock> ogra1: I'll fix this one, it's my fault in the first place I believe
[21:39] <ogra1> so as soon as CD and ltsp upstream are sorted i'll turn into a plain edu maintainer
[21:40] <LaserJock> ogra: great
[21:40] <LaserJock> there are quite a few bugs out there to get fixed up
[21:40] <ogra> yeah
[21:40] <ogra> well, i fear to get bored after some time
[21:41] <ogra> but lets see ... being bored one release might also not e bad :)
[21:41] <ogra> *be
[21:49] <LaserJock> well, we might have a better chance of doing some need polishing
[21:49] <LaserJock> *needed
[21:51] <ogra> i doubt that for hardy though
[21:51] <ogra> to much new stuff
[21:51] <ogra> and to much odl stuff for me to sort out
[21:51] <ogra> *old
[21:52] <LaserJock> I'm sure there will be enough to do