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Daisuke-IdoDaSkreech: he said work, not annoy00:00
MinatakuNeXT... barf00:00
fignewOMG YUO USE TEH WINDOZE00:00
Dragnslcrjmichaelx- I would think that a generic USB adapter would work with the included drivers00:00
DaSkreechfignew: I think that he's past that OS00:00
oriongabyhello00:00
MinatakuHe's not00:00
MinatakuHe turned it into Mac OSX00:00
oriongabyanybody klnnows were to get Aquamarine?00:00
DaSkreechYeah but you don't see him trying to sell neXT do you?00:00
MinatakuI do00:00
MinatakuIt's called "Mac OSX" now00:00
Daisuke-Idowhen i say past ubuntu, i mean past the handholding, past the everything precompiled to defaults, etc00:00
Daisuke-Idogentoo :D00:00
fignewDaisuke-Ido: and what does that allow you to do?00:01
MinatakuDaSkreech: Even the calls in OSX are still prefixed "ns_"00:01
Daisuke-IdoNeXT with a mach kernel and BSD userspace tools?00:01
MinatakuNeXT always had a Mach kernel00:01
Daisuke-Idofignew: optimize, optimize, optimize.00:01
Daisuke-Idoah00:01
oriongabyanybody klnnows were to get Aquamarine?00:01
jmichaelxDragnslcr: actually i have no idea what would qualify as a generic usb adapter.... i have an rt2500 based usb adaptor (which is hard to get working in gutsy) and am rt73? usn adaptor that would probably only work with ndiswrapper00:01
Daisuke-Ido!aquamarine00:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aquamarine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:02
jmichaelxusb*00:02
MinatakuIt had it's own userspace tools, either that or they were stolen from 4.3BSD00:02
Daisuke-Ido!info aquamarine00:02
ubotuPackage aquamarine does not exist in gutsy00:02
MinatakuNow they're stolen from FreeBSD instead00:02
DaSkreechoriongaby: What do you mean?00:02
fignewDaisuke-Ido: what's to gain?00:02
Daisuke-Idooriongaby: no.00:02
MinatakuAnd the UI is iglier and even more useless00:02
Daisuke-Idofignew: speed, for onw00:02
Daisuke-Idoone*00:02
MinatakuI've used NeXTSTEP. It's horrible.00:02
oriongabyaquamarine theme manager00:02
fignewlol!00:02
Daisuke-Ido!info compiz-kde-decorator00:02
ubotuPackage compiz-kde-decorator does not exist in gutsy00:02
stdinoriongaby: it was used for beryl, but the compiz-kde package places it00:03
MinatakuI've used it on a SPARC, no less00:03
Daisuke-Idothere we go00:03
hcbox_Hi all, got a little problem that just happend, was transfering datas on a ntfs disk ... got a freeze on my computer ... and lost the whole target directory .. i can see it with konsole  but i can access it00:03
oriongabykk00:03
MinatakuNot some lame PC version00:03
oriongabythx00:03
Minatakuhcbox_: Perhaps see if Windows can fix it?00:03
MinatakuProbably not, though00:03
MinatakuI'm sure Windows probably would have wrecked it in the first place anyway00:04
Daisuke-Idoi am so tempted to make a comment about using ntfs in linux to begin with...00:04
Daisuke-Idooh, i just did00:04
hcbox_i pluged my harddrive on windows00:04
Minataku"I'm Windows, I'm better than Linux, I'll ruin YOUR WHOLE DISK INSTEAD OF JUST ONE DIRECTORY LIKE LINUX DOES! SEE? BETTER!"00:04
Dragnslcrjmichaelx- I've never actually tried using a USB adapter, but I would think a store-brand one would work. Something from Netgear or Linksys probably would too00:04
Minataku:P00:04
MinatakuSorry. I've become bored.00:04
Minatakulol00:04
fignewMinataku: please.00:04
jmichaelxdrag00:04
jmichaelxoops00:04
stdinMinataku: please behave in here00:05
hcbox_Minataku: i'm on linux but its and extern hard drive and i dont choose what system my friends uses and windows have crappy compatibility with hdd00:05
DaSkreech!tab | jmichaelx00:05
ubotujmichaelx: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.00:05
jmichaelxDragnslcr: getting wireless, particularly usb wireless, is way more problematic in linux than you may be aware00:05
DaSkreechhcbox_: install ntfs tools and run a scan on it?00:05
MinatakuOh, suddenly the crap I say every night is "misbehaving" because I got mad at a rule00:05
Daisuke-Idojmichaelx: xbox 360 wireless adapter00:05
DaSkreechYeah hardware working perfectly is still a linux hurdle00:05
hcbox_DaSkreech: gonna try it00:06
jmichaelxDaSkreech: i know about tab, but i hit reurn instaed of tab accidentally :-P00:06
Daisuke-IdoYOUR wired connection to its access point, which then goes to wireless :)00:06
Dragnslcrjmichaelx- I'm not talking about a USB wireless adapter. I meant a USB wired adapter00:06
sailordoes anyone know how i can get adept-manager to stop crashing when i "fetch updates" ?00:06
DaSkreechone of the last three realms of Linux suckiness00:06
Daisuke-IdoDaSkreech: what are the others?00:06
DaSkreechjmichaelx: I knwo I was messing with ya :)00:06
Daisuke-Idoi imagine cohesiveness00:06
DaSkreechGames and subcultures00:06
jmichaelxDragnslcr: ahh, i misunderstood you! i had not thought of that00:06
DaSkreechOr corner markets00:06
hcbox_DaSkreech: somtething like package nftsprogs00:06
DaSkreechwhich ever you want to see it as00:06
DaSkreechhcbox_: Right I think tthat's it00:07
DaSkreechsailor: fix your repos list ?00:07
Daisuke-Idoi should go try and get the remote working in geexbox00:07
sailorDaSkreech: I have removed my repos list and created a new one, still the same problem :/00:07
Daisuke-Idoworking in the livecd00:07
DaSkreechhmm00:07
Daisuke-Idoso i just have to copy the lircd.conf over00:08
DaSkreechdoes apt-get update work on teh command line?00:08
jmichaelxit's funny, i bought a pcmcia ethernet adapter today at best buy for $5.99 on clearance hoping it would work under linux, but it doesn't00:08
Daisuke-IdoDaSkreech: yeah00:08
DaSkreech!hardware | jmichaelx00:08
ubotujmichaelx: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport00:08
sailorDaSkreech: yeah no problems00:08
fignewjmichaelx: what does lspcmcia say?00:09
jmichaelxi also bought a pcmcia wireless adapter today at be$tbuy.... for $6.99, and it turned out to be atheros, which is awesome00:09
jmichaelxfignew: actually, i just used lspci.... no wnder it did not show up00:09
fignew:)00:09
sailorDaSkreech: My sources.list file: http://pastebin.com/d6d64860d00:10
jmichaelxfignew: ok, lemme reboot and see what lspcmcia tells me.... i do know that the lights did not come on...  i tried to use it with mepis antix, and with the debian netinstall cd00:10
MinatakuSorry all for getting a bit out of hand00:10
Daisuke-Idojmichaelx: getting a good deal on working hardware is hardly a reason to use the dollar sign in the store's name.  it's petty and childish, and almost as annoying as when people do the same for microsoft00:11
fignewok00:11
jmichaelxDaisuke-Ido: i have had issues with bestbuy, sorry for the offense00:11
DaSkreechsailor: run adept from the command line and see if it thrws a message when it crashes00:11
fignewDaisuke-Ido: He can write however he pleases00:12
Daisuke-Idoi'm not personally offended, but if you've had issues, why did you go back anyway?00:12
fignewperhaps it's the only tech store in his area?00:12
jmichaelxDaisuke-Ido: lack of choices, partly, and to see what clearance stuff they had00:12
Daisuke-Idopartly00:12
hcbox_DaSkreech: ntfsfix doesnt solve anything, my directory is still missing another idea ?00:12
stdinDaisuke-Ido, fignew: please keep on topic00:12
jmichaelxanyways , it's be$tbuy to me....00:13
jmichaelxbrb00:13
fignewstdin: I was keeping on the topic that Daisuke-Ido started ;)00:13
DaSkreechhcbox_: were you moving it or copying?00:13
stdinwe have a whole channel for general chat, but no one ever uses it :p00:14
DaSkreechreally? what is this mythical channel stdin ?00:14
hcbox_copying some files in the directory, and the whole directory disapear not only the files being copied00:14
sailorDaSkreech: from command line: http://pastebin.com/m443452ba00:15
jmichaelxstdin: you know what, i have been scolded for discussing OT topics twice in #ubuntu-offtopic , or whatever it is called lol00:15
stdinDaSkreech: it's #ubuntu+kde-gnome-offtopic :)00:15
ben_im gutted my pc is dieing00:15
ben_can anyone help?00:15
ben_please00:15
DaSkreech!anyone | ben_00:15
ubotuben_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?00:15
ben_well its a swear word in here but i dual boot use linux mostly but windows for games my windows says its missing hall.dll00:16
ben_is this terminal?00:16
DaSkreechben_: So Windows is dying?00:17
stdinthat's a windows issue, so it's best to ask that in ##windows as more people know about windows in there than do in here00:17
ben_ok thanks00:17
carelessliesdying would be a an exageration, but declining . . .00:18
ben_well it wont boot00:18
ben_so at the min id say that was pretty terminal00:18
DaSkreechThat;s normal for me00:18
DaSkreechstdin: does the pastebin for adept make any sense to you?00:21
stdinDaSkreech: it just says it's crashing, but doesn't give an indication why00:21
DaSkreechstdin: what's the warning beside kdecore ?00:22
stdinDaSkreech: that just says it's connecting to a pty device (normal behaviour for adept)00:22
jmichaelxok, i ran lspcmcia on this machine, and the only output i got was [yenta_cardbus]etc,etc... it does not appear to see the ethernet adaptor00:23
DaSkreechsailor: try purge adept and reinstall?00:23
munk_i have an aspire 5610 and im trying to make my  $ and euro sign buttons work and i have it all working except the startup script which instead of running the script opens the file with Kate...HELP?00:26
DaSkreechmunk_: is it executable?00:27
munk_DaSkreech how do i find that ?!00:27
DaSkreechmunk_: right click and look at permissions. If executable is un checked then check it00:28
Dragnslcrmunk_- and does it have an interpreter line at the top of the file (e.g. #!/bin/bash)00:28
munk_Dragnslcr yes it does00:29
DragnslcrYeah, make sure it's executable then00:29
munk_DaSkreech no its not how do i activate that i cant edit that00:29
DaSkreechmunk_: who owns it?00:31
munk_DaSkreech, root00:31
hcbox_DaSkreech: FUSE mount point creation failed > its worse :)00:32
DaSkreechhcbox_: have a Windows box?00:32
hcbox_DaSkreech: yeah just plug it on windows00:32
munk_DaSkreech, how do i make it executable?!00:33
moofooare there beta4 or even more recent snapshot builds of kde4 for gutsy?00:33
DaSkreechmunk_: kdesu dolphin and do the premissions check again00:33
hcbox_DaSkreech: i plugged it, reboot, disconnect safely and i got FUSE mount point creation failed back on ubuntu00:33
DaSkreechhcbox_: ntfstools can set the drive to force a check next time Windows sees it  make it do that00:34
stdinmoofoo: I'm checking if they build in gutsy now, (kdelibs 91%)00:34
Dragnslcrmoofoo- topic00:34
hcbox_its with netfix, i tried but nothing happend on windows box when rebooting00:34
moofooDragnslcr: slap me :P00:35
stdinhopefully we'll have 3.96.0 in a few days...00:35
munk_DaSkreech, it doesnt work:-<00:35
Dragnslcrmoofoo- heh, I wouldn't have noticed if your asking hadn't reminded me that I wanted to see if beta4 was packaged yet00:36
DaSkreechmunk_: afraid of the command line?00:37
munk_DaSkreech, no..00:38
DaSkreechmunk_: sudo chmod + x /path/to/file00:38
moofoowill this be the beta4 or a more recent snapshot? (like some krash-weekends-later ;-)00:39
munk_DaSkreech, done...00:39
DaSkreechmoofoo: probably the release after Beta400:39
DaSkreechmunk_: executable now ?00:40
moofoonice00:40
munk_DaSkreech, yes, so everytime i want to add something to Autostart i have to do chmod +x?00:40
DaSkreechmunk_: that would be correct00:40
DaSkreechif it is not executable then it cannot execute!00:41
munk_DaSkreech, thank you very much ill probably be back because im trying to get my system in close to perfect condition00:41
munk_thanks thats good to know...i owe u again..:p00:41
DaSkreechmunk_: anytime. come on back you hear?00:42
hcbox_DaSkreech: made a chkdsk on windows and have the same problem Fuse mount point failed //00:47
DaSkreechwat00:47
DaSkreech Windows says Fuse failed?00:47
hcbox_nop, when i connect it on ubuntu00:47
DaSkreechah00:48
hcbox_on windows my directory is always here ... but in ubuntu the mount point disapear and i cant mount my disk00:48
DaSkreechwindows sees the disk fine?00:48
hcbox_sure00:48
INIT_6This is just wired, using kubuntu 7.1 Have geforce 2 ultra 128mb I enabled the Restricted drivers. It worked perfect. I even rebooted a couple times for other things. now it's broken. I looked through the LOG file no errors. I switch the driver in the xorg.conf file back to nv. and loads. I don't know what changed only thing was a few updates. any help?00:48
DaSkreechJust not the dir?00:48
hcbox_in fact my mount point was HD and the rep was HD_DVD ...00:49
hcbox_now the problem is not the HD_DVD directory but the HD mount point00:49
hcbox_annot remove `HD': Is a directory00:49
hcbox_hcbox@hcbox-desktop:/media$ sudo rmdir HD00:49
hcbox_rmdir: HD: Device or resource busy00:49
Admiral_Chicagohcbox_: its mounted and being read00:50
DaSkreechlsof it00:50
hcbox_Admiral_Chicago: u were right, and its the solution i umount the HD point and it appear in dolphin ...i can now mount my HDD with the fully directory DVD_HD00:52
hcbox_works fine thanks to DaSkreech & Admiral_Chicago... my breathe is now normal =) very happy00:52
Admiral_Chicagoyou're welcome00:53
Admiral_Chicagohiya DaSkreech :D00:53
DaSkreechhcbox_: I was confuzzled as to the problem sorry for taking so long :)00:53
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: !! :)00:53
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stdin...00:54
stdin!away > blendtux-away00:54
hcbox_No problem guys i learned a new trick today, ntfsfix & umount a point ;) everyday learning with linux ;)00:54
DaSkreechhcbox_: Oh yeah always unmount points when you are done before removing the mount point00:54
blendtux-awayi just changed my nick stdin00:55
DaSkreechThe system will be confused if you want to remove the mount point or everything on the file system that was mounted00:55
blendtux-awayif i changed it to blool nobody would say anything stdin00:55
stdinblendtux-away: changing nick on away or  to show you're away is against the ubuntu-irc policy, that's why I got ubotu to pm you00:56
ctkwhat program do I use to make a DVD of pictures? for playback on a standalone DVD player01:02
DaSkreechk3b?01:03
DaSkreechI would guess01:03
ctkjust a data cd, I guess? will it play?01:03
DaSkreechdunno never tried01:04
ctkWell like to set transition time and stuff. I guess I could just make a screencast of a powerpoint and burn it as a video cd or somethi8ng...01:05
ctkk, thanks01:06
Beowulf!kcc01:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kcc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:07
Beowulf!info kcc01:07
ubotukcc: Kanji code filter. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3-12 (gutsy), package size 15 kB, installed size 88 kB01:07
Beowulfhmm01:08
BeowulfWhat do you need to compile stuff in kde?01:08
Beowulf???01:09
stdinto compile kde apps or general stuff?01:10
Beowulfyea01:10
stdininstall build-essential and kde-devel01:10
DaSkreech!b-e | Beowulf01:11
ubotuBeowulf: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:11
sailor:( ive even tried uninstalling / re-installing adept-manager and its deps, but it still crash's when i "fetch updates" any other suggestions guys?01:11
Beowulfare the sources for the updates right?01:12
DaSkreechsailor: you purged?01:12
sailorsudo apt-get autoclean ?01:12
sailoryep01:12
DaSkreechsailor: huh? no01:12
DaSkreechsudo apt-get remove adept -- purge01:12
sailoroh right01:12
sailorhang on01:12
sailorill do it now01:12
sailorDaSkreech: yeah i purged, then installed again and still the same :(01:14
sailorDaSkreech: i just removed sources.list file so adept-manager would use absolute minimum and it still does it.01:15
DaSkreechsailor: You removed the sources list?01:15
Beowulfthis install is gonna take a while isnt it?01:15
sailordamn driving me nuts! all i want to do is click "fetch updates" so then i can do the dist upgrade.01:15
sailorDaSkreech: yeah i can put it back again, or create a new one, which i have already tried.01:16
DaSkreech!easysource01:16
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:16
DaSkreechtry that ^^01:16
DaSkreech but I think the issue is adept01:16
sailorDaSkreech:  ok01:16
sailorDaSkreech: yeah :/01:16
medionhello01:21
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tekteenhi01:21
sailorDaSkreech: ok ive done that and still no dice :( what else can i try?01:21
tekteensFEARs: do u have a question?01:21
sFEARswhen i try to get a web page in konqueror i get01:22
sFEARsAn error occurred while loading http://www.google.com:01:22
sFEARsCould not connect to host http://www.google.com/.01:22
sn00zerwhen installing window$ in virtualbox do you still need to activate? i still dual boot with this copy and don't want to screw up the actual install01:22
tekteenu do not have internet?01:22
sFEARsworked for a little while... then i lost my wireless connection for a minute.. tried to load google.. got that error, connection came back on but i still have that error in konqueror01:22
tekteensFEARs: try to restart01:23
sFEARsi'm connected right now but get that error in konqueror.. firefox works fine01:23
sFEARstried that01:23
tekteenok01:23
tekteenhave u checked proxy settings01:23
sFEARsand that's any web page.. not just google01:23
sFEARsyeah.. no proxies set01:23
Beowulfhmmm01:24
Beowulf!start01:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about start - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:24
Beowulf!info start01:24
ubotuPackage start does not exist in gutsy01:24
sFEARsi even apt-get remove konquror and reinstalled.. didn't help01:24
tekteenok01:24
sFEARsi havn't tried logging in as another user01:24
BeowulfAnyone know of a fun package whose source i can get?01:24
sFEARsthat's would exactally help my current situation though01:24
tekteenI do not know the problem.01:25
tekteensorry01:25
sFEARsi can't connect by IP either01:25
sFEARslame01:25
tekteensFEARs: does it matter?01:26
sFEARsi'd like to have it working01:26
tekteensFEARs: u can use firefox01:26
tekteenok01:26
tekteensorry01:26
sFEARsfirefox doesn't browse the filesystem right01:26
sFEARsi like to jump back and forth01:26
tekteenok01:26
Beowulftekteen: know of a random good package whose source I could download?01:26
tekteenbeowulf: java601:27
Beowulfnah01:27
tekteenwhy01:27
Beowulfsomething more fun01:27
tekteenwhy01:27
BeowulfWanna test my compiling thing01:27
BeowulfI just fixed it01:27
BeowulfI think01:27
tekteenfirefox?01:27
Beowulfgot it already01:28
tekteenwine?01:28
Beowulfgot it01:28
tekteencompiz?01:28
Beowulfhmm01:28
Beowulfok01:28
BeowulfWhere do i get it?01:29
tekteenhold on01:29
tekteensudo apt-get source compiz01:29
tekteenthis will get the ubuntu source package01:30
Beowulf!paste01:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:33
Beowulftekteen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45180/01:34
Beowulf!paste Beowulf01:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paste beowulf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:34
Beowulf...01:34
tekteen!paste| Beowulf01:34
ubotuBeowulf: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:34
BeowulfI see01:35
Beowulftekteen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45180/01:35
Beowulf!paste| Beowulf01:35
Beowulfhelp?01:35
tekteenu r missing dependencies.01:36
Beowulfwhich are?01:36
tekteenone sec01:36
tekteencurrently u r only missing the package "libstartup-notification0"01:37
tekteenbut it will ask for u to install more01:37
Beowulfoh joy01:37
tekteentry something else like clam01:37
Beowulflibstartup-notification0 is already the newest version.01:38
tekteenu can get it from there site01:38
tekteentheir*01:38
NickPrestaBeowulf, what seems to be your problem?01:38
sanzanrichelp! recently i made a new user account and i moved over my documents and music from my old account but now i can only read the folders,  i can't write to them. How can i fix this?01:38
Beowulftrying out my source compiling01:38
Beowulfjust fixed it a minute ago01:38
Beowulfhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45180/01:38
NickPrestasanzanric, chmod/chgrp the files to your username01:38
Beowulfthen it gave me that while trying to install compiz01:38
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NickPrestaBeowulf, have you installed libstatup-notification-1.0?01:39
BeowulfHMMM01:39
sanzanricNickPresta, how would i do that exactly?01:39
NickPrestaBeowulf, you need the -dev package. libstartup-notification0-dev01:39
tekteensanzanric: open up a konsole01:39
BeowulfE: Couldn't find package libstartup-notification-1.001:39
ardchoille!info libstartup-notification-1.001:40
ubotuPackage libstartup-notification-1.0 does not exist in gutsy01:40
sanzanrictekteen, right01:40
NickPrestasanzanric, I believe something like: `sudo chgrp USERNAME /home/USERNAME` where USERNAME is your username. Replace chgrp with chmod and you're done. That should do it.01:40
tekteensanzanric: then type "chown -R USER.GROUP FILE"01:40
Beowulf!info libstartup-notification001:40
ubotulibstartup-notification0: library for program launch feedback (shared library). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9-1 (gutsy), package size 20 kB, installed size 92 kB01:40
NickPresta!find libstartup-notification-1.001:40
Beowulfnvm01:41
BeowulfI got it01:41
tekteenor folder01:41
sFEARsanyone know how to install multiple distrobutions01:41
ubotuPackage/file libstartup-notification-1.0 does not exist in gutsy01:41
sFEARsi have all the files copied over to a separate partition, but i'm not sure how to do the whole kernel thing01:41
Beowulfit's compiling again01:41
sFEARsso that it boots correctally01:41
tekteensFEARs: it is in grub01:41
NickPrestasFEARs, which files have been copied? /home?01:42
sFEARsi've edited the boot/grub/menu.lst file01:42
tekteensFEARs: does you comp. still boot?01:42
Beowulfoh boy01:42
NickPrestaBeowulf, ?01:42
Beowulfmore missing dependencies...01:42
Beowulfinstalling gconf now01:42
sanzanricNick, the program stated: chgrp: invalid group 'myusername'01:42
NickPrestaBeowulf, which are they? This is what happens when you decide to compile software. You must install the dependencies yourself :)01:43
sFEARsi can get into windows & kubuntu fine, and i have the /bin /usr/ sbin /lib.. all the folders copied01:43
Beowulfnick: I know that, I just hate doing it01:43
sFEARsbut i'm not sure how to get grub to poing to that distrobution01:43
NickPrestasanzanric, what is your new username?01:43
sFEARsi think i might have to compile a kernel... any ideas?01:43
NickPrestaBeowulf, what's wrong with the version of Compiz in the repos?01:43
BeowulfI wanted to compile01:44
tekteenBeowulf: do a easier project like clamav <http://clamav.net>01:44
BeowulfI just wanted to make sure my source compiling works01:44
Beowulflast time it said i lacked the neccessary kde components01:44
tekteensFEARs: Paste your menu.lst file01:44
sanzanricNick, its my name01:44
sFEARsin grub my kubuntu boot option has the 2.6.15 kernel or whatever listed in there.. so i copied that kernel over to the /lib/modules folder where i thought it needed to be, but it still didn't work01:44
NickPrestasanzanric, then you replace USERNAME with sanzanric01:44
Beowulf!info clamav01:45
ubotuclamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.91.2-3ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 856 kB, installed size 1284 kB01:45
sanzanricyes that is what i did.01:45
tekteen!paste | sFEARs01:45
ubotusFEARs: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:45
tekteensFEARs: paste the file01:45
Beowulfnick: said it couldnt find gconf-2.001:45
Beowulfneeds gconf2?01:46
Beowulf!info gconf201:46
ubotugconf2: GNOME configuration database system (support tools). In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 134 kB, installed size 284 kB01:46
NickPrestaBeowulf, you need the -dev packages01:46
sFEARsare there some distros that can only use lilo to boot?01:46
Beowulfdamnit01:46
tekteensFEARs: paste your menu.list file01:46
tekteensFEARs: u can not be helped till we see it01:47
sFEARshold on01:47
sFEARsi'm working on it01:47
shaffycan anyone tell me of an audio-cd ripping program?  i want to make mp3s from a cd.01:48
tekteenshaffy: in a konsole type "sudo apt-get install lame"01:48
BeowulfNick: it says there is no gconf-dev01:48
NickPrestashaffy, I like `abcde`01:49
BeowulfAnd it still says I'm missing gconf-2.001:49
BeowulfNick: ^01:49
NickPrestaBeowulf, libgconf2-dev01:49
Beowulfoh01:50
tekteenshaffy: Then open up konqueror and go to the url <audiocd:/>01:50
tekteenthen copy the "MP3" folder to another folder01:50
init6does anyone know why my kubuntu in adept manager says I can upgrade to 7.1 when I am already on 7.1 I installed it off a CD.01:50
tekteenit will auto rip and convert to mp301:50
NickPresta!upgradebug01:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about upgradebug - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:51
NickPrestainit6, I believe it's a known bug. I would just ignore it01:51
init6I would but I think it's making it so I can't update my other packages or get the correct list of packages to upgrade01:51
tekteenshaffy: u still there?01:51
shaffythanks tekteen and NickPresta.  appreciate the input.01:51
init6I will try http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:51
tekteennp01:52
sFEARshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45181/01:52
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tekteensFEARs: looking at it (give me a sec)01:53
sFEARsthanks01:53
Beowulfyay!01:53
BeowulfIt's making stuff01:54
tekteensFears: what distro is it?01:54
BeowulfIs it possible at all to win at Thirteen?'01:54
shaffytekteen: yo,i am still here.  but quick question.  your option that you said, does it read from CDDB as well before ripping to keep filenames and such?01:55
sFEARsany01:55
sFEARsredhat01:55
kjnfkjnkjfgkjfgkDCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 001:55
tekteenshaffy: yes01:55
sFEARsdo the distro files need to be loaded in the root filesystem?01:55
shaffytekteen: sweet.  thanks dude.01:55
sFEARsdoes it matter that they're on a logical partition?01:56
tekteensFEARs: yes01:56
BeowulfNick: /usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'01:56
BeowulfNick: then it got 2 errors and terminated01:56
tekteensFEARs: it should be in a primary partition01:56
sFEARsi tried to set up the root filesystem onto the logical partition and wanted grub to point to it01:56
tekteensFEARs: don't know how01:57
sFEARsjust like windows points to hd0,0 and kubuntu points to hd0,1 i want it to point to hd0,6.. just so happens that's a logical partition, has all the files i need on it, just not sure which kernel to use.. i think01:58
Beowulftekteen: /usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'01:58
tekteensFEARs: use /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic01:58
sFEARswill try01:59
tekteenhold on01:59
sFEARsthat's not specifically for kubuntu?01:59
tekteennm01:59
tekteenone sec01:59
wastedfluidhello.. i have a problem i've never experienced before.  When I am using Amarok to play mp3s, xorg's cpu usage goes to 55-75%.. and just owns my laptop.  If I close Amarok, it dies down and goes to normal.. however, if I just stop the mp3 - it still stays high..02:00
tekteensFEARs: use "/vmlinuz"02:00
tekteenthat is a symlink to the newest kernel02:00
ubuntuValaki magyarul tude ?02:01
Beowulftekteen: a little assistance?02:01
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* tekteen is helping too much02:01
tekteenwhat do u need Beowulf02:01
Beowulftekteen: /usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'02:02
Beowulftekteen: It tells me that then it terminates02:02
tekteenBeowulf: No clue. Sorry02:02
Beowulfdamn02:02
Beowulfoh well02:02
tekteentry clamav02:02
tekteenit is EASY02:02
tekteengood for first time02:03
tekteenBeowulf: http://freshmeat.net/redir/clamav/29355/url_tgz/clamav-0.91.2.tar.gz02:04
stdin!clamav02:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about clamav - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:04
stdin!info clamav02:04
ubotuclamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.91.2-3ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 856 kB, installed size 1284 kB02:04
tekteenstdin: he is trying to compile from source. :-)02:05
stdinexactly02:05
stdinwhy do it when it's packaged?02:05
NickPrestaCompiling something from source for the sake of compiling something from sources seems rather, odd, to say the least.02:05
NickPrestaThere are smaller, unpackages applications, which can be compiled from source if you really, really want to compile something02:06
tekteenstdin: he is learning to compiling from source02:06
NickPrestas/unpackages/unpackaged02:06
daftmandoes anyone have problem with eclipse on kubuntu?02:06
stdintekteen: there's a guide for that02:06
stdin!compile02:06
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:06
tekteencool02:06
tekteenty02:06
daftmaneclipse keep crashing on me02:07
stdinalso help in #ubuntu-motu02:07
daftmanonly on ubuntu02:07
NickPrestadaftman, it is only a ubuntu problem?02:09
shaffydoes anyone know how to get an updated irc server list in konversation?  like somehow using the mIRC server.ini file?02:10
daftmanNickPresta: yes i don't have the problem if I download europa from eclipse website02:11
daftmanNickPresta: only when I get eclipse through the repo, things start to go wrong02:11
daftmanNickPresta: like the splash screen doesn't stay02:11
daftman*dissappear02:11
daftman*crash often02:11
init6I thought I would share what I just learned. in kubuntu 7.1. if apt-manager thinks it can update to 7.1 you have to go into a terminal and run: apt-get update then apt-get upgrade fixes the issue.02:14
tekteeninit6: nice to know02:14
hagabakais there a program that configures the side buttons with presets in common programs?02:19
hagabakaside buttons on mice02:19
hellhounddoes anyone know a scan program in kde that can scan to pdf?02:22
BluesKajhellhound, I've used the kooka scan app, but for my setup it doesn't do nearly as wellas windows on photos as the windows apps do, dunno about pdf files , maybe they might be ok , not sure.02:26
BluesKajoops repeating myself again02:27
stdinjust scan to an image then print to pdf02:27
jarmesis there a utility for modifying power management?02:32
jarmeswhen I leave my desktop idle for about 2 hours, it shuts down, and I'm wondering if this could be a power management issue02:34
jake_I've had an issue for a while. I have an older machine (eMachines W4885) that will not boot *Ubuntu - alt disk or regular disk. It simply reads the CD during bootup but then goes on to boot from the hard disk. I believe I have everything set up correctly in the bios, as some distros (Mandriva, SUSE, Puppy) boot fine.02:37
hellhoundBluesKaj: do you happen to know how to scan to full size.  For some reason it keeps reducing the image02:38
Daisuke_Laptopuh?02:41
Daisuke_Laptopit scans at a certain dpi value02:41
dsmith_Daisuke_Laptop: who did you say makes he best laptops?02:41
Daisuke_Laptopmakes the best?  i dunno02:41
Daisuke_Laptopi like my dell though :)02:41
dsmith_heh02:42
dsmith_someone told me fujistu or toshiba02:42
Daisuke_Laptophellhound: a 4x6 image scanned at 100 dpi is "actual size" at 400x600 pixels02:42
Daisuke_Laptopa 4x6 image scanned at 1200 dpi is "actual size" at 4800 x 7200 pixels02:43
Daisuke_Laptopactual size is relative.02:43
hellhoundDaisuke_Laptop: I am trying to scan a letter and print it to pdf.  When i do this the document is small02:44
Daisuke_Laptoplogical followthrough of the last couple things i said: if you want it LARGER, increase the DPI02:45
hellhoundDaisuke_Laptop: i guess what I am asking is what dpi i should have it at if the scanned image i 8.5x11 and I want it to print to pdf at 8.5x1102:46
Daisuke_Laptopscan at, say, 300-600 dpi02:46
hellhoundDaisuke_Laptop: Thank you.02:47
Daisuke_Laptopthat's not all, give me a moment :)02:47
Daisuke_Laptoptrying to give you the right options here :)02:47
Daisuke_Laptopi wouldn't print from kooka02:48
Daisuke_Laptopgwenview an option?02:48
Daisuke_Laptopshould be02:49
hellhoundDaisuke_Laptop: yes I have that program... what is wrong with kooka though02:49
Daisuke_Laptopbecause i don't have it right here in front of me - this should apply though, i think it's a default print dialog for both02:49
Daisuke_Laptopthere should be a scaling option somewhere when you choose to print to pdf02:49
Daisuke_Laptopfit to page.02:49
Daisuke_Laptopokay, in kooka, you'll have to hit the options button, then it's under image printing02:51
Daisuke_Laptopscale image to fit page02:51
rafahi!!02:52
hellhoundDaisuke_Laptop: i do not see an options button in kooka02:53
wastedfluidhello.. i have a problem i've never experienced before.  When I am using Amarok to play mp3s, xorg's cpu usage goes to 55-75%.. and just owns my laptop.  If I close Amarok, it dies down and goes to normal.. however, if I just stop the mp3 - it still stays high..02:54
level1hi, amarok crashed and now it just won't run again02:54
level1I ran it from the command line, and I get nothing, it just hangs and never produces any output02:54
level1wastedfluid: have you tried other media formats?02:54
wastedfluidNot necessarily.02:55
wastedfluidi played a dvd and it didn't get this hot.. it didn't even jack up the cpu like that02:55
level1wastedfluid: have you or haven't you?02:55
level1wastedfluid: in amarok I mean02:55
wastedfluidno, I haven't.. lettme try.02:56
hellhoundDaisuke_Laptop: nevermind i found it02:56
hellhoundDaisuke_Laptop: awesome it works perfectly.. Thank you02:57
wastedfluidlevel1: sigh, I went to open it.. and it did again; xorg at 85%.. I can't even really open it and to try.02:57
Daisuke_Laptopback03:02
Daisuke_Laptopwas fiddling with GB03:02
medion_having trouble getting konqueor to connect to web pages.. need some help03:08
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cpk1wastedfluid: what if you use a different app to play mp3's?03:08
fignewmedion_ what's up?03:18
Aresilekhey does anyone know of a flv player for kubuntu?03:20
AmyRoseAresilek: Yes, Kaffeine plays them03:22
BluesKajVLC03:22
AmyRoseAresilek: You need to install libxine1-ffmpeg03:22
AresilekBluesKaj: VLC? not working for me :-(03:23
AresilekAmyRose: how do i do that?03:23
AmyRoseAresilek: If you install libxine1-ffmpeg in Adept/Synaptic/Aptitude/whatever (with the Universe and Multiverse enabled) you can play FLV's in Kaffeine03:23
AresilekAmyRose: found it :-D thanks :-)03:25
AmyRoseAresilek: You're welcome03:26
AmyRoseBluesKaj: I can't get VLC working for most of what I try playing with it03:26
AmyRosePeople keep saying it's the greatest player ever, but I cannot get the stupid player to work03:27
AresilekAmyRose: i think it is the best player ever, and was shocked that it wouldn't play flv, i'm sure i've played flv in vlc in windows03:27
BluesKajit'll run most formats that i know of including media iso files03:28
dthacker!ipod03:28
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod03:28
Aresilekit works! :-D03:28
AmyRose!rockbox03:29
uboturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!03:29
MilitantPotatoI love VLC, but here recently the sound either skips, doesn't play or the video fails to load completely03:29
BluesKaj!songbird03:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about songbird - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:29
MilitantPotatoI've started using kaffeen03:29
sn00zeri prefer amarok for audio and mplayer for video03:30
BluesKajdthacker, I've heard good things about songbird for ipods on linux03:30
AmyRoseI hate iPods with a passion03:30
biovoreyay..03:31
BluesKajhehe, yeah ppl either luv 'em or hate 'em03:31
biovorepropritary crap...03:31
biovorethen again.. you can put rockbox on them :-)03:31
dthackerI installed Kubuntu on one of my son's friends computers.  Now he wants to use a brand new ipod on it and I now there were issues with them.03:31
dthackers/now/know03:32
dthackerso I'm looking for the package or patch if one is available03:32
BluesKajcould care less about "disposable music" ...mp3 in other words, casual listening maybe03:32
medionwhere in system settings can you configure what happens when you close the laptop screen??03:32
AmyRosemedion: The battery monitor03:32
medionthank you03:33
AmyRosemedion: in the system tray. That's what controls it03:33
BluesKajwell sacktime for me ...nite all03:34
hydrogendthacker: you need to compile Amarok against libgpod 0.6.0.. but it can handle them now03:34
BeowulfI get this weird error while compiling compiz03:35
Beowulfcan anyone help with that?03:35
dthackerhydrogen: do you use a Kubuntu source package to compile?  Will that keep package management clean?03:36
Beowulf/usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'03:36
Beowulfcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status03:36
hydrogendthacker: you need to do a bit of working around to get it right :/03:36
dthackerhydrogen: ok, got a link,  I'll try a test box first.03:36
dthackerI mean got a link?03:37
hydrogendthacker: hmm.. trying to think of the easiest way for you to do it and keep package management clean03:37
hydrogenperhaps just build your own .deb...03:37
hydrogenor use checkinstall03:37
* dthacker takes notes03:37
Beowulfhydrogen: you seem knowledgeable, could you help me?03:38
hydrogen!checkinstall03:38
ubotucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!03:38
hydrogenyea, thats what you should use dthacker :)03:38
dthackerhydrogen: thanks!  this looks like something cool to play with. :)03:39
Beowulfhydrogen: I get this weird error while compiling compiz03:39
Beowulf/usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'03:39
Beowulfcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status03:39
hydrogenwhy are you compiling compiz?03:40
BeowulfI wanted to test my compiling03:40
Beowulfit wasnt working and i thought i fixed it03:40
BeowulfI'm just missing something else03:41
BeowulfI'm on the "make" stage03:41
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Beowulf...03:43
blmmMost, but not all, of my toolbars icons in Kontact were one day replaced by ugly-looking (default?) ones. What could have happened?03:44
Beowulfblmm: go to a konsole and type in kcontrol03:44
smaxwhat is the apache directory to store an index.html ?03:44
blmmYes...03:44
Beowulfdid you do that?03:45
blmmyep03:45
Beowulfgo to ummm'03:45
Beowulfhang on03:45
blmmIcons?03:45
blmmI have Crystal SVG selected.03:45
Beowulfswitch yuor icon set03:46
Beowulfthen switch it back03:46
BeowulfA program you got might have modified it03:46
blmmSwitching to Crystal Clear...03:46
blmmThe icons did not change in Kontact. They did change elsewhere.03:47
Beowulfhmmm03:48
blmmI still have a mix of Crystal SVG (I assume) and the ugly ones in Kontact.03:48
Beowulfthe icons might be corrupted03:48
blmmNone of them are Crystal Clear, so Kontact didn't register the change at all.03:48
Beowulfoh03:48
Beowulfhmm03:48
blmmI did restart Kontact.03:49
Beowulflemme open it03:49
blmmTried switching to Monocrome; no effect in Kontact.03:49
Beowulfhmmm03:50
smax24.229.180.251/funny.jpg03:50
Beowulfsmax: wtf...03:51
Beowulfblmm: sorry, I don't know03:52
Beowulfone thing you might try though03:52
blmmok03:52
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BeowulfIf you really care about icons and its that important to you03:53
Beowulfremove kontact03:53
Beowulfthen reinstall03:53
blmmMakes sense. Purge it?03:53
Beowulfpretty much03:53
ardchoilleI don't think that icons in kontact change with the icon theme.03:55
ardchoilleAt least they never have here and I have used it over the past couple years03:56
blmmIs there a Kontact-specific setting then?03:56
ardchoilleI've never found one03:56
BeowulfI looked, i didnt find it03:56
ardchoilleI think the are hard-coded03:56
Beowulfremove kontact03:57
Beowulfsudo apt-get purge kontact03:57
Beowulfardchoille: could you help me?03:57
blmmI was in the process, but that wants to remove "kde" and therefore all packages that were auto-installed with it.03:57
Beowulfum03:58
ardchoilleBeowulf: With what?03:58
Beowulfit shouldnt do that03:58
Beowulfnevermind then03:58
Beowulfhmmm03:58
blmmI tried starting Kontact as another user though, and there it looks OK. So something in my user settings.03:58
Beowulfactually03:58
Beowulfoh03:58
Beowulfok03:58
Beowulfhang on03:58
Beowulfardchoille: my compiz wont compile03:58
ardchoilleBeowulf: I don't use compiz or beryl and never will.03:59
Beowulfoh03:59
Beowulfardchoille: it's unrelated to using it03:59
Beowulf/usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'04:00
Beowulfcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status04:00
ardchoilleBeowulf: I don't kow anything about compiling. I only use apps that are in the official repos04:00
Beowulfoh04:00
blmmLook at that: [Icons] Theme=Locolor in kontactrc...04:00
purpleposeidonBeowulf: Who are you?04:00
blmmI wonder how that got there...04:01
ardchoilleblmm: haha04:01
Beowulfpurpleposeidon: who are you?04:01
Beowulfardchoille: know how to install apache?04:01
purpleposeidonI AM PURPLEPOSEDION! And you?04:01
modjohi every body!04:02
ardchoilleblmm: blmm That isn't in my kontactrc at all04:02
blmmOK. That worked. It even respected my current setting of "Monochrome" icons.04:02
ardchoilleBeowulf: No, sorry04:02
BeowulfI!04:02
modjois it posible con access KEXI tables using JAVA?04:02
BeowulfAM!04:02
BeowulfBEOWULF!04:02
blmmMissing icons are pulled from Crystal SVG.04:02
purpleposeidon!shout04:02
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.04:03
ardchoilleblmm: Where did you add that ?04:03
blmmardchollie: So then the icons in Kontact should really change for you if you change the icon settings.04:03
ardchoilleblmm: There are no icon settings in my kontactrc04:03
Beowulf!shout| purpleposeidon04:03
ubotupurpleposeidon: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.04:03
Beowulf:D04:03
blmmI added nothing intentionally. Something added that setting. I now removed it.04:03
Beowulf!happy04:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about happy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:03
purpleposeidonNow now now, don't abuse ubotu too much. :P04:04
Beowulf!ubotu04:04
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots04:04
Beowulf?04:04
modjois it posible con access KEXI tables using JAVA?...anyone?04:04
Beowulf!lol04:04
ubotuPlease don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.04:04
modjo!kexi04:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kexi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:04
Beowulf!info kexi04:04
ubotukexi: integrated database environment for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.3-0ubuntu5.1 (gutsy), package size 3548 kB, installed size 11032 kB04:04
ardchoilleblmm: When I add that line, it gets removed as soon as kontact closes.. ie, it's not supposed to be there.04:05
Beowulf!info kexi04:05
Beowulf!info kexi| modjo04:05
ubotumodjo: please see above04:05
modjoyes im seeing04:05
modjoi got a question04:05
Beowulfk?04:05
modjoi KNOW what kexi is04:05
modjobut i wanna know how to access it using java04:05
modjohow do i ask that on this channel? or even in google?04:05
blmmardchiolle: If you want to edit the file you should probably do it while Kontact is not running, or I would expect that your changes do indeed get overwritten.04:06
Beowulf!howdy04:06
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:06
Beowulf!hello04:06
Beowulf...04:06
Beowulf!hello04:06
Beowulf!hello04:06
Beowulf!hello04:06
Beowulf!hello04:06
Beowulf!hello04:06
Beowulf!hello04:06
Beowulf!hello04:06
hydrogen!bot abuse04:06
ubotuPlease don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot04:06
Beowulf!hello04:06
ardchoilleblmm: I did it while kontact wasn't running. Then I opened kontact and closed it and that line got removed.04:06
Beowulfyay04:06
Beowulfhe's back!04:06
hydrogenstop spamming.04:06
Beowulfhydrogen: help me now?04:06
hydrogenno.04:06
modjois it posible con access KEXI tables using JAVA?...anyone?04:07
Beowulfplease04:07
biovorelol04:07
blmmOh. It is supposed to be two lines... See the syntax in the rest of the file.04:07
ardchoilleBeowulf: You'll get kicked out of the channel for that if you make the ops mad04:07
BeowulfI asked you before and you didn't answer04:07
ardchoilleWho me?04:07
blmmI just wrote it like that here not to flood the channel.04:07
Beowulfno04:07
Beowulfhydrogen04:07
blmmA wasted effort, apparently ;-)04:08
modjois it posible con access KEXI tables using JAVA?...anyone?04:08
ardchoilleblmm: But, kudos to you for digging thru the *r file when you couldn't find an answer, that shows initiative :)04:08
ardchoille*rc file04:08
blmmarchoille: Well, it was my question to begin with.04:09
Beowulf!google| modjo04:10
ubotumodjo: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux04:10
modjohow do i ask that on this channel? or even in google?04:10
BeowulfKEXI tables in JAVA04:10
modjo:\04:10
Beowulf...04:10
ardchoilleSpeaking of java.. coffee time04:12
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rfmonkanyone know why alt-tab doesn't change window focus like it did before I installed k04:21
biovoreIt dose here..04:22
rfmonkhmm04:22
moparisthebestkde you mean rfmonk ?04:22
biovorecompiz?04:22
rfmonkkubuntu yes kde04:22
moparisthebestits a setting someplace, not very helpful to you though :/04:22
rfmonkyou'd think it would be in this 'kcontrol' but I haven't found it yet04:24
rfmonkthere is a lot of people in this room.04:25
biovoreKinda low atm04:26
rfmonkbiovore, were you refering to my conversation when you said compiz?04:27
biovorenope04:30
ubunturos!update04:39
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes04:39
SolifugusIs there a program for video/voice recording from my webcam?04:43
SolifugusIt works with Skype, but I don't know of any other application to record myself with.04:43
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MyNameIsURLhey all04:44
MyNameIsURLjust installed Feisty04:44
ardchoilleOk, a friend of mine just plugge her computer into my router. Is it possible to mount her C: drive on kubuntu? I think it's NTFS. Don't want to write anything, just want to mount.04:44
MyNameIsURLworks like a charm04:44
MyNameIsURLare you using Konqueror as a file manager?04:46
usamahashimiHello Everyone!04:46
usamahashimiHow can I install Gtk+ in kubuntu Gusty?04:46
ardchoilleMyNameIsURL: You talking to me?04:46
ardchoilleYou gotta be kidding me04:47
ardchoilleI typed smb:/192.168.0.2 into konq and it let me browse. That was easy04:47
MyNameIsURLhow many machines are on your network?04:48
ardchoille404:48
MyNameIsURLso you can see all her storage devices now?04:48
Solifugusardchoille: in konqueror, it's smb://192.168.0.2/....... whatever your share is called..04:49
ardchoilleMyNameIsURL: yes04:50
ardchoilleSolifugus: Yeah, thank you :)04:50
ardchoilleDoes that mean I have samba installed and running?04:50
ardchoilleI don't remember installing samba04:51
Solifugusor.. cifs, not necessarilly samba...04:51
Solifugusbut kde came with what it needed.04:51
ardchoilleAh, ok04:51
ardchoilleIndeed it did04:51
ubunturosSolifugus: windows (ntfs / vfat) partition are usually accessed samba, isn't it?04:53
ardchoilleWell, it'll browse C:, but it won't let me go into any folders.. keeps asking me for a username/password04:53
Solifugusubunturos: samba is for sharing with windows over a tcp/ip network...04:54
ubunturosSolifugus: ok04:54
Solifugusubunturos: ntfs/vfat are filesystems, you can define in your /etc/fstab file..04:54
Solifugusto mount a partition04:54
ardchoilleIt won't let me read any files or open any folders04:55
ubunturosSolifugus: ok04:55
ardchoilleCould it be because it's NTFS ?04:55
Solifugusit shouldn't matter, if it's a share over the network...04:56
ubunturosardchoille: may be. You probably need to enable write permissions04:56
Solifugusfor writing, yes.. that would matter04:56
ardchoilleubunturos: It won't let me copy any files over to my kubuntu either04:56
ardchoilleI don't want to write to the Windows share, I just wanted to know if I could read or copy files04:57
ubunturosardchoille: you should be able to copy04:57
ardchoillekonq says it can't read any of the files04:58
Solifugusardchoille: but it lists them04:58
Solifugus?04:58
ardchoilleyes04:58
ardchoilleI can see the files/folders, just can't copy or read anything or cd into folders04:59
ubunturosardchoille: hmm, I had the same problem. I allowed write permissions, and then I could copy to and from the folder to my Kubuntu desktop05:00
ubunturosardchoille: though, that sounds odd, because, we aren't writing anything, it worked. May be samba is trying to write some temporary file in the background05:00
ardchoilleI remember being able to mount a Windows C: disk on ubuntu Dapper. How is that done?05:01
nevilleDon't you need05:02
nevilleNTFS-3g05:02
neville?05:02
ardchoilleSomething like: sudo mount -t ntfs 192.168.0.2:C /mnt/windows05:02
biovoreto read the disk no..05:02
ardchoilleneville: If you're going to write to the windows disk, yes05:02
ubunturosneville: I didn't have to install ntfs-3g to write files over samba05:02
biovoremount -t ntfs /dev/<device> /media/<somedir>05:02
nevilleAhh, okay, nevermind then >.>;05:02
ardchoillebiovore: But what is the /dev/<device> ?05:03
ardchoillebiovore: It's thru the router05:03
hydrogenwell05:03
hydrogensamba is a different beast all together05:03
biovoreyou mean samba then.. window share..05:03
ubunturoshydrogen: hmm, possibly, it hides the file system behind its own "way" of sharing05:04
biovoreapt-get install smbfs05:04
ardchoilleWell, ntfs-3g is installed and I didn't install it. Does Gutsy ship with it?05:04
hydrogenubunturos: no, it provides a network filesystem, it has nothing to do with ntfs05:04
ubunturoshydrogen: hmm, ok05:05
hydrogenwith the small exception that it can write to ntfs05:05
biovoresmbmount //computername/sharename /mount/point/dir -o username=someuser,password=mypassword05:05
ubunturoshydrogen: ah, ok05:05
ardchoilleI guess this is what I get for not using Windows in 7 years, I don't know how to work it, lol05:13
ubunturosardchoille: did enabling write permissions, not work?05:13
ardchoilleI don't even know how to do that05:14
ardchoilleIt's not important, I was just curious to see if I could mount/browse05:14
ubunturosardchoille: how did you enable sharnig for a folder? (right click, Sharing and Security?)05:14
ardchoilleNo idea05:14
ubunturos(in that windows machine)05:14
ardchoilleIt was already done I guess05:15
ardchoilleOh, she did that.05:15
ubunturoshmm, ardchoille, it may not have.05:15
ubunturosardchoille: windows, might have enabled sharing, by default05:15
ardchoilleThat's not smart, IMHO05:15
* ardchoille thinks he's getting ot05:15
ubunturosardchoille: hmm, anyway, you can right click on a folder foo and then click on Sharing. There's an option to (a link) to enable file sharing which will give you an option to "just enable file sharing"05:16
ardchoilleubunturos: That was it, sorted. Thank you very much :)05:19
ubunturosardchoille: welcome. /me gets thinking about that mysterious write permission ;)05:19
A2t3can0v3r10rdcan someone tell ubuntu channel reps to see this link as i cant and am banned for life lol___http://madderhatters.blogspot.com/?05:20
ardchoilleubunturos: Apparently, Gutsy installs ntfs-3g during the initial install because I have it installed but I didn't install it.. this is just the first time I've used it.05:22
kelvieanyone know how to fix that kopete crashing problem?05:22
kelviebasically everyone I know that has gutsy has it :/05:22
ardchoillekelvie: When connecting to msn?05:22
kelvieardchoille: yep05:22
kelvieI sent one of them the deb link05:22
kelviefor kdelibs05:22
kelvieand it says a newer version is installed :/05:22
ardchoillekelvie: sudo apt-get upgrade  (that bug was fixed)05:22
ubunturosardchoille: hmm, ok05:23
kelviemmm I'll look into it :P05:23
NightBirdhm... whenever I try to get my laptop to go to sleep or hibernate, it fails to fully go into the target state, and just locks up the system05:26
biovoreprobably buggy bios with ACPI05:26
NightBirdthe linux boot does report a BIOS Bug #81 being found05:27
biovoreprobably the problem..05:27
NightBirdI've managed to get it to work before, even when it was reporting it, but since I've done a wipe, I lost whatever modifications they were that worked around the problem05:27
surgyhello05:29
NightBirdhi05:29
ardchoillehi surgy05:29
NightBirdbiovore: do you know where the scripts are that handle the switching to sleep/hybernate mode?05:29
NightBirdor where to look for it?05:29
NightBirdn/m, found them05:30
surgyim using a gamemon gamepad converter to convert my playstation controller to usb, so that i can play pSX with the proper gamepad, my problem is that kubuntu recognizes my gamepad as having too few buttons and sets the digital direction pad as an axis, therefore i cant map the digital d-pad as macroes in the emulator, can someone help me please?05:31
ardchoillesurgy: I can't begin to describe how "over my head" that is, lol05:33
surgylol05:33
evil-rhinoanyone have an idea how wrap a textfile to 80 characters per line nicely using one wizardish shell command?05:33
surgyJucato: i think you might be the one to ask for on my problem, if your available05:34
surgyevil-rhino: why do you need to do this?05:34
ardchoilleme thinks he's asleep05:34
NightBirdugh... booting also takes a long time05:34
surgy?05:35
surgycan anyone help me?05:35
biovore!ask05:36
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:36
surgybiovore: i allready did " im using a gamemon gamepad converter to convert my playstation controller to usb, so that i can play pSX with the proper gamepad, my problem is that kubuntu recognizes my gamepad as having too few buttons and sets the digital direction pad as an axis, therefore i cant map the digital d-pad as macroes in the emulator, can someone help me please?05:36
biovoreno clue here.. I don't do that kind of stuff..05:36
ardchoillesurgy must be a die-hard gamer05:37
surgylol05:37
ardchoilleIf he understands that stuff05:37
surgyonly the old ones that im still adicted to, that no one plays anymore05:37
ardchoilleThe older games were great05:37
surgywell its not hard, there has to be another driver or a config file im missing somewhere05:38
surgyit should be similar if not the same as configuring a force feedback joystick05:38
ardchoillesurgy: If no one answers here, try thr forums. Lots of folks there too05:39
MilitantPotatoWhat does Flushed IO / Cached IO do when mounting a partiton?05:39
surgyardchoille: how new are you? no ofense but ive been around, thnx for the help though05:40
ardchoillesurgy: I've been using Linux since 2001, ubuntu since 2004. But I don't install anything unless it's in the repos. I've never had any big problems in Linux and that may be why I don't knowhow to fix very much.05:41
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TahetonHi05:41
daffytheduckhi there Ive got a problem with tor and privoxy Im using Vidalia to start tor and Im getting the following message despite having everything properly configured "Could not bind to 127.0.0.1:9050: Cannot assign requested address"05:41
ardchoillehi Taheton05:41
daffytheduckcan anyone help thnx05:41
dthackerdaffytheduck: is there another service running on 9050?05:44
daffytheduckthats what i was thinking05:45
daffytheducki dont know05:45
daffytheduckive just updated my wireless network drivers05:45
daffytheduckand im thinking there could be something goiong on there05:46
dthackerdaffytheduck: did it work *before* you updated the wireless drivers?05:46
daffytheduckyes05:46
daffytheduckbut i was having the same problem at times b4 I updated05:46
daffytheducki but most of the time it was ok05:46
daffytheducknow i rebooted twice and its the same thing05:47
daffytheduckim thinking of changing the default port in torrc05:47
dthackerdaffytheduck: is *any* traffic going through the wireless device(s)?05:47
ardchoilledaffytheduck: Could it be the fault of the new wireless drivers? Bad drivers?05:47
daffytheduckyes05:47
daffytheduckim tlaking to u now through it05:48
ardchoilleok05:48
daffytheduckso its working fine with greater strength than b405:48
surgy im using a gamemon gamepad converter to convert my playstation controller to usb, so that i can play pSX with the proper gamepad, my problem is that kubuntu recognizes my gamepad as having too few buttons and sets the digital direction pad as an axis, therefore i cant map the digital d-pad as macroes in the emulator, can someone help me please?05:48
dthackerdaffytheduck: so the network device works, but the specific port doesn't.  Are you behind a firewall?05:49
daffytheduckill try to change the port in torrc   I didnt want to do it b4 because id have to change privoxy config as well05:49
daffytheduckno im not05:49
daffytheducki dont have firestarter installed05:49
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NightBirdhow would I find out what is causing my laptop to take so long to start up?05:50
dthackerdaffytheduck: there is no router or firewall between you and the internet?05:50
dthackerNightBird: please define "long"?05:50
NightBirdlast message I see on screen one is "kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot..." and then it waits05:50
NightBirddthacker: about a minute to two minutes05:51
daffytheduckthere is a router but ive got it set up DMZ05:51
NightBirdI can time it next time I restart(which will probably be pretty soon) if you want05:51
daffytheducki tried using port 9051 same thing05:52
daffytheduckI might tru to purge reinstall tor and see how it goes05:52
daffytheducktry05:52
ardchoilleNightBird: I get that same message (kinit..) but the wait is about 10 seconds05:52
arun_Hello people. I'd like to know if I can rescue files from a Windows system using the Kubuntu Live CD. I plan on backing up the files from the Windows drive to an external hard disk05:52
dthackerdaffytheduck: verify that you really are DMZ, or put it behind the router and port forward.05:53
arun_is it possible? and if so, then is it really slow to back up files using a live cd?05:53
NightBirdardchoille: yeah, I'm guessing it's looking for a suspend image, and when it doesn't find it, it just does a normal boot05:53
dthackerNightBird: How much RAM?05:53
ardchoilleNightBird: That's what I thought too05:53
daffytheduckits definately DMZ ive got it set up for this internal IP05:53
posingaspopulararun_: im pretty sure it is possible, but i haven't tried windows in a while05:53
posingaspopularIm almost 100 percent sure though.05:53
posingaspopularduno about speed05:53
NightBirddthacker: I think it has 256 megs of ram, but 32 megs are shared with the graphics05:54
arun_posingaspopular: alright, thanks. i havent used windows in a long time too, one of my friends has this problem, so i said i'd try to rescue his files05:54
dthackerNightBird: that will cost you time on boot.  I have a 384 mb laptop that takes a minute, but my 512mb one is less than a minute.05:55
daffytheduckyeah i just checked im totally open to the internett05:55
ardchoilleNightBird: Sounds like the amount of ram might make a diff. I have 2Gib ram05:55
NightBirddthacker: yes, but it normally booted much faster before gutsy, and even in gutsy beta it was booting faster05:55
MilitantPotatoWhat's the advantages/disadvantages to using Flushed IO over Cached IO05:56
dthackerdaffytheduck: hmmm,   you're going to have to figure out what is stopping you.  Or reverse that driver update.  I think those are your choices.05:56
CreationistI don't suppose there's a way to totally remove the ubuntu-desktop dependencies, is there?  I regret my decision to install Gnome.05:56
daffytheduckk05:57
daffytheduckthnx05:57
ardchoille!purekde | Creationist05:57
ubotuCreationist: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »05:57
daffytheduckIm trying to reinstall tor now05:57
posingaspopulararun_: okay good luck05:57
dthackerooo, cool.  It's like a utility for buyer's remorse!05:57
Creationistardchoille: Although, wouldn't that remove any software I've installed?05:57
ardchoilleCreationist: Have you installed kde (kubuntu-desktop)?05:58
Creationistardchoille: I installed Kubuntu 7.10.05:58
Creationistardchoille: From the ISO05:58
ardchoilleCreationist: According to that factoid, it only removes gnome stuff05:58
Creationistardchoille: I don't care about pure KDE or pure Gnome (they both have applications I like and use).05:59
ardchoilleCreationist: Are you on Gutsy? And installed ubuntu-desktop?05:59
CreationistEh well... I guess it's not a HUGE deal except that now my menus are cluttered with applications that do the exact same thing but for different desktops.05:59
Creationistardchoille: Correct.05:59
ardchoilleCreationist: as of Edgy, apt-get has a new option, it's "--auto-remove" and it removes dependencies that are no longer needed. So, I assume "sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove ubuntu-desktop" would take out ubuntu-desktop and all its deps.06:00
Zombocomhello06:00
ZombocomI need to add video modes because I know my card can support them06:01
Zombocomand the drivers can as well06:01
ZombocomI know I'm supposed to add it to the xorg.conf06:01
Creationistardchoille: --autoremove removes dependencies that aren't being used... but now that all the applications are installed, they're all being used ;)06:01
Zombocombut06:01
Zombocomis it06:01
nevillesudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:01
neville?06:01
arun_does the k/ubuntu feisty live cd automatically mount the windows drives?06:02
ardchoilleCreationist: But if you remove ubuntu-desktop, then its deps are no longer being used06:02
Creationisttrue06:02
ardchoilleCreationist: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package, it's empty. All it does is serve to "pull in" the gnome desktop and all its deps.06:03
ardchoilleCreationist: You can try it, it'l remove a lot of stuff but will ask for confirmatio before it removes anything06:04
MyNameIsURLhey, is Beryl included in Feisty Fawn?06:05
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ardchoilleMyNameIsURL: In Ubuntu, yes. In Kubuntu, no06:05
ardchoille!beryl06:05
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz06:05
NightBirdI was wrong, my laptop is operating off of.... 478mb of ram....06:05
MyNameIsURLaaaah. OK thx06:06
MyNameIsURLI want to install Compiz then06:06
ardchoilleMyNameIsURL: Wait, you said Feisty? I'm wrong, my info was about Gutsy06:06
arun_anyone?06:06
CreationistHmm.. in Compiz, what is the middle mouse button (in terms of setting mouse events)?06:06
NightBird(that's with the ram for video is taken out)06:06
ardchoille!compiz | MyNameIsURL06:06
ubotuMyNameIsURL: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion06:06
MyNameIsURLok thankys06:06
ardchoille'It can get confusing having 4 releases being supported at the same time06:08
surgy im using a gamemon gamepad converter to convert my playstation controller to usb, so that i can play pSX with the proper gamepad, my problem is that kubuntu recognizes my gamepad as having too few buttons and sets the digital direction pad as an axis, therefore i cant map the digital d-pad as macroes in the emulator, can someone help me please?06:08
Rukusanyone know how to stop my monitor from shutting off on my laptop after 10 minutes? i cant change it in the normal monitor settings. i think its an xorg / fglrx problem06:10
Rukusits kind of annoying when watching movies06:10
ardchoilleRukus: You already check "Monitor & Display" in kde control centre?06:11
Rukusyah, it doesnt work06:11
ardchoilleok06:11
kelviexset -dpms; xset s off06:11
kelviewill make sure it's off06:11
Rukusyah its off06:11
NightBirdboot time is: 3 minutes, 49 seconds...06:11
Rukusso now what do i do06:12
ardchoilleNightBird: not to offend or anything, but why reboot? Linux doesn't need to be rebooted unless you're doing kernel work.06:12
Rukusany ideas?06:14
ardchoilleI suppose one could install kubuntu and run the computer without rebooting until the nest kubuntu release provided there's no kernel upgrade06:14
NightBirdardchoille: or when acpi stuff doesn't work06:14
ardchoilleok06:14
NightBirdand I'm trying to get that to either work, or have to shutdown my computer when not in use06:14
ardchoilleAh, ok06:15
NightBirdwell... I just disabled the splash screen and the boot speed is fixed..06:20
MyNameIsURLthanks for the help06:20
MyNameIsURLI'm outs. Need some sleep06:20
blmmWhere can I change the "open with..." file bindings for "unknown" files? There is an entry in there that I would like to remove. If I click the little wrench icon for such a file, the dialog that pops up has the title "application/x-kdeuser1". This dialog lists no actions. I suspect there might be an "application/x-kdeuser" (without the '1') but that is not in the file types settings.06:22
Rukus:(06:23
NightBirdhow do I tell ubuntu to not scan my windows drive on startup?06:25
emilsedghblmm: Konqueror Settings06:26
emilsedghblmm: Konqueror->Settings->configure Konqueror->File Associations06:26
blmmYes, but I can't find the appropriate file type.06:26
blmmI just did though.06:27
blmmIt is application/octet-stream.06:27
blmmThough there is no hint when right-clicking on the file that it is classified as such.06:27
blmmThe setting is in /.kde/share/applnk/.hidden06:28
* NightBird found it... and now I go to bed06:29
blmmThanks anyway! I must have right-clicked on some file and said I wanted it opened by kwrite, that got associated to octet-stream and there was no hint what happened. And you can only search by file extension in the GUI.06:31
Zombocomyo06:42
Zombocomhow do I reconfigure xorg?06:42
Zombocomyou all = gay if you don't answer my question06:43
Zombocombecause it's so damn simple06:43
Zombocomcome on06:43
ZombocomI serously need help06:43
nevilleI thought I told you before06:43
nevillesudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:43
ardchoilleZombocom: Please be respectful of people here, your attitude will dictate whether or not anyone answers :)06:43
nevilleManners please06:43
Jucato!patience | Zombocom06:44
ubotuZombocom: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:44
ardchoilleI was going to answer but changed my mind after that "gay" comment06:44
bazhangsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:44
bazhangZombocom: see above06:44
neville-_-v06:45
Jucatoneville: don' you mean -_-;06:45
nevilleNo06:45
ardchoilleJucato: Thought you'd be asleep about now06:45
nevilleI personally reckon v looks better than ;06:45
Jucato2:45pm :)06:45
ardchoilled'oh!06:45
ardchoilleI hate time zones06:46
Zombocomoh thanks neville06:47
ZombocomI had to restart my computer06:47
Zombocomit went psycho on me because I stopped the process06:47
Zombocomhow do I resume a stopped process?06:47
Zombocom(the other thing was a dare06:47
Dragonathsomething's messed up with my thunderbird - after update to gutsy (was feisty before) some mails show up in the list but give an error when you try to open them - is this common?06:48
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sailorstill having problems with "fetch updates" in feisty. Does anyone else have any ideas on why it keeps crashing? I have replaced sources.list file, uninstalled and purged adept-manager and re-installed it again. Nothing seems to work :/07:04
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ardchoillesailor: Does it work if you use apt-get?07:10
snowdonkeyHi.  I'm trying to access a windows partition on a remote machine using SSH but I can't write to the directories.  What do I need to do?07:11
sailorardchoille: yeah apt-get is fine update and upgrade are ok - system is fully up to date. I want to be able to do a dist upgrade using the button in Adept-Manager.07:11
apparlehow to install helix player with the .bin file07:11
sailorardchoille: whenever i click "fetch updates" which is supposed to give me that option, adept-manager dies.07:11
ardchoillesailor: Oh, ok. I don't know, I never use adept_* I just wanted to make sure your APT was working07:11
apparleany body knows how t play rmvb files07:17
bazhangreal player07:17
apparlebazhang : and how t install it07:19
bazhang!real07:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:19
apparlebazhang: I got te bin file and used ./filename.bin07:20
bazhanggo to real com and then follow their instructions--will have to use command line07:20
apparlebazhang : I get "No such file or directory"07:21
bazhangapparle: where are you running the command from? you need to be in the same folder07:21
apparlebazhang: I am  in te folder and can execte other commands like renaming the file07:22
bazhangapparle: the commands are case sensitive--REALPLAYER10 etc07:23
apparlebazhang: I have taken care of te case07:23
bazhangapparle: and you followed the instructions on the real home page?07:24
apparlebazhang: Isn't there a .deb file for gutsy or a plugin for kaffiene07:25
bazhangapparle: not sure there--ubuntuforums.org might have the answer to that--bin file compiled fine here.07:26
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sailoreveryone; i found a solution. I had to copy MIT cookie and merge it to user root. Then i could (as root "su -i") run adept_manager --version-upgrade07:30
sailorseems the problem is that the script couldnt connect to DISPALY=0:007:30
jussi01apparle: this page has instructions for realplayer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealPlayerInstallationMethods07:30
surgyfixed my gamepad :)07:30
ardchoillesurgy: Yay!07:31
surgyguess how?07:31
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surgyi unplugged it went to mcdonald's and came back and plugged it into a different usb :) now its perfect07:31
ardchoillehahaha07:31
surgylol07:31
surgywas racking my brain there for a min07:31
ardchoillesurgy: Sounds like you may have a defective usb port07:32
surgynow its time for some tomb raider 1 :)07:32
surgynah07:32
bazhangMcgamepad!07:32
ardchoillesurgy: That's my favourite game!07:32
surgyi think the driver just needed to be reset, or the adress changed or something07:32
sn00zermy ~ char looks the same as my - to me, is this a font issue?07:34
surgyyerp07:35
surgya font issue07:35
apparlehow to install ati drivers on gutsy07:35
surgywhat kind of monitor do you have?07:36
surgy!ati apparle07:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ati apparle - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:36
surgy!ati07:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:36
sn00zersurgy: how do i find out what font is missing?07:36
apparlewhat is te diffrence between real player adn helix player07:37
newguysshi, is there any program I can use to change image format?07:40
apparlesurgy: i don't have net at my computer so tell me which packages to download  for ATI drivers07:41
jussi01newguyss: just install gimp07:44
apparlei don't have net at my computer so tell me which packages to download for ATI drivers07:45
jussi01!repeat > apparle07:45
fontanedoes anyone know a keystroke recording program?07:46
se7en_newguyss: have a look at this www.acetoneteam.org/ works fine for me07:51
jussi01fontane: why would you need one?07:53
newguyssthanks guys07:53
newguyss:)07:53
fontanejussi01: for nefarious reasons i may not bespeak07:53
bazhango4o07:54
ardchoillefontane: This is not the place to ask about things like that.07:54
fontaneardchoille: security reasons actually07:54
jussi01!o4o | fontane07:54
ubotufontane: Some things are inappropriate for #kubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.07:54
smaxhttp://24.229.180.251/funny.jpg07:56
ibertIs there a HowTo for installing Skype in gutsy (32bit)?07:57
apparleis there an offline dictionary07:57
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apparleis there any dictionary like wordweb fo linux08:00
jussi01apparle: wht is word web?08:00
[FG]TNThi08:02
apparlejussi01: It is a dictionary for windows and is superb08:02
[FG]TNTPL?08:02
jussi01!pl08:02
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl08:02
[FG]TNTjest ktoś z polski?08:02
[FG]TNTmam pytanie08:02
jussi01[FG]TNT: only english here08:02
jussi01[FG]TNT: go to #ubuntu-pl08:02
jussi01apparle: have a look in add/remove - there are lots of dictionries...08:03
apparlejussi01: i don't have net at my pc so can't get them08:05
jussi01apparle: is there no way you can ge net to it? at least for setting stuff up its quite important...08:05
apparlejussi01: No08:06
ardchoilleapparle: Without a internet connection, even if you downloaded an app, you'll likely run into dependency problems. Rarely do you need just one package for something of moderate feature set.08:06
apparleardchoille: Don't you remember you solved that problem for me by helping me make a list of all installed dependencies08:08
apparleanyway: Tell me the name of sme poplar dictionaries08:08
ardchoilleI don't know of any off-line dictionaries08:08
bazhangwebsters08:09
ardchoilleOk, now I know one, lol08:09
bazhangreally offline :}08:09
apparlebazhang: is it available for linux08:09
ardchoilleapparle: It's a paperback book08:10
bazhangapparle: I would guess so, though there are online dictionaries that are not os-specific08:10
apparlewhere to get it08:10
bazhangapparle: the digital one?08:10
apparleyes08:11
bazhangapparle: to install, or view on the web?08:12
apparlebazhang: obviously to install as I donot have net at home08:13
bazhangapparle: I'm not sure how you can install it without net access--what did you have in mind for this dictionary?08:14
bazhangie translation, etc.08:14
apparlebazhang: I will download the .deb file and dependencies. I want it to lookup difficult words in end while reading ebooks. I want eng to eng dict.08:16
bazhangapparle: for translation stardict is nice--though again without net access not sure how you plan on installing it--doing it a usb key and transferring it over would mean severe risk of dependency probs08:16
ibertI'm having a problem with Nvidia Geforce FX 5200. With gutsy, there are no VT's (worked fine with dapper). Neither with the binary driver nor with the nv driver. Another Problem is at Startup that the login Screen doesn't appear alone. I have to press "Ctrl-Alt-Delete" and then XServer restarts and the graphic-logon appears. Does anybody have an idea?08:17
bazhangapparle: you can look at packages.ubuntu.com08:17
ActionParsnipibert: you could use login convenience in System Settings ;)08:18
ardchoilleapparle: The problem is how do you know what the deps are? And, once you get the app to a diff computer, will you be lissing things on that box that you already had on the downloading box?08:18
apparlebazhang: i donot want to translate. i want English meanings of difficult english word and I will take care of dependencies. Don't worry about it08:19
bazhangapparle: ok--again, I would heed ardchoille's words on dependencies--a pandora's box waiting to happen there.08:19
ardchoilleRight. Suppose appA needs depA1 and depA2. But the box you're downloading it on has depA1 and depA2, but the box at home (without internet) doesn't have those deps. You'll get home and realise you have to go back. How many apps are you going to have to do that for?08:21
ardchoilleI suppose you could download all possible deps for every app you want and then take it all home on a dvd, but you could end up talking about hundreds of packages. That will consume a lot of time.08:23
apparleardchoille: At home i make a list of dependencies on my home in  a text file. next i go to site and check which dep i have and which I donot have. By the way you only solved my problem by telling the command to make a list of installed packages on a PC08:24
ardchoilleAh, ok. That'll work if you're willing to go that route.08:25
ardchoilleapparle: Also, is the download box yours?08:26
stdinapparle: at home do "apt-get --print-uris install <package>" to get a list of all the packages you need to download and what to save them as, then take that somewhere with net access and save, then move to /var/cache/apt/archives/ and "apt-get install <package>" at home08:26
apparleNo it is a public box with Windows XP08:27
ardchoilleapparle: If so, it'd be a whole lot easier and faster to just install all the apps you want on the download box, use PartImage to make an image of the root partition (takes about 10 minutes), burn that image to a dvd, take it home and install the image on the home box (takes about 10 minutes) so both boxes are identical.08:28
ardchoilleok08:28
ardchoilleI use that method to make all 11 of my machines identical.08:28
tv_I'm trying to run BZFlag in kubuntu and get the error listed here.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45202/  Anyone with any help would be appriciated.08:28
bazhangnice08:28
ardchoilleThat way I only have to install and setup Kubuntu on the first box.08:29
bazhangnicer08:29
ardchoilleTrust me, if there's a way to make things easier (and me lazier) I'll find it, lol08:30
ayakohi08:30
bazhanghehe08:30
ayakoneed serious help08:30
apparleboth of you please tell me about the dictionary name and I will see the rest. By the way the download box is a college box with windows XP08:30
ayakoin the add/remove programs08:31
ayakoi get this message08:31
ayakoaptitude or apt-get in use by another program, close that first,08:32
apparleayako : Are you running adept08:32
ayakothen when i try to i need a higher superlevel username08:32
JackWinterhiya, anyone know how to give jackd rt privs, starting it from qjackctl?08:32
ayakoyes08:32
ayakoi was using it to download programs for software development08:33
bazhangapparle: the only dictionary name I can see in apt-cache search is ydpdict--which is an interface for collins dictionaries08:33
ardchoilleayako: You can only run one package manager at a time. Close all others and try again.08:33
bazhangie not translation08:33
stdinayako: you can only have one package management application open at once08:33
ayakobut did not complete and closed it08:33
apparleayako: As stdin said08:33
ayakosince then i get that message08:34
ardchoille!fixadept08:34
stdin!aptfix | ayako, use this command in konsole08:34
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »08:34
ubotuayako, use this command in konsole: please see above08:34
apparlebazhang: ydpdict is surely offline???08:34
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ayakohow can i do a dpkg --configure -a08:34
ardchoilleayako: in a terminal08:35
stdinayako: just copy and paste everything between '«' and '»'08:35
ayakothank you08:35
ayakoyou people are the best08:36
ayakoi tried to ask my uni IT technician he said not uni computer cannot do anything08:36
ayakoi need to go for now just woke up08:37
ayakoplus theres something i got do08:37
ayakoi will let you guys know what happens08:37
ayakosee you later08:37
JackWinteranyone know where i can get some help for qjackctl & jackd running under kubuntu?08:37
apparleany one can help me about ati drivers08:39
bazhangapparle: wordnet seems to be what you are looking for; check this thread--http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59828208:39
ardchoille!ati | apparle08:40
ubotuapparle: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:40
JackWinteri have linux-rt installed, but when i try to start jackd from qjackctl with rt support i get the following msg: cannot use real-time scheduling (FIFO at priority 10) [for thread -1210336576, from thread -1210336576] (1: Operation not permitted)08:41
arashJackWinter, Im not experienced , but at the sounds of 'Operation not permitted' it sounds like if you have to be root or something08:42
JackWinteri suppose it means that i need root privileges to gain access to the kernel?08:42
apparleardchoille: You know my problem (no internet) tell me what to do for ati drivers08:42
JackWinterarash: i get the same feeling.08:42
arashJackWinter: so gksu doesn't work :p?08:43
ardchoilleapparle: I don't know what to tell you about that, dude, you really need internet access.08:43
ibertI'm having a problem with Nvidia Geforce FX 5200. With gutsy, there are no VT's (worked fine with dapper). Neither with the binary driver nor with the nv driver. Another Problem is at Startup that the login Screen doesn't appear alone. I have to press "Ctrl-Alt-Delete" and then XServer restarts and the graphic-logon appears. Does anybody have an idea?08:44
JackWinterdon't know what it is.  used to run freebsd some years ago, but a lot has changed since then.  i'll go experiment with gksu ;-)08:44
arashJackWinter: you type 'gksu <application-name>'  and then the application will run with root privileges, gksu can be replaced with gksudo, But I'm a noob really :), dont expect it to work hehe, well I gotta go to school now08:45
apparleardchoille: I managed to get it done on feisty. How to do it on gutsy08:45
se7en__ibert: that08:45
se7en__strange i have the same card08:45
JackWintergksu seems not to be in my path, nor do i find a man entry for it?  please excuse i installed kubuntu for the first time last night. alot to learn...08:46
JackWinterthanks arash08:46
apparlehow to get kaffiene play diffrent video formats on gutsy08:46
arashJackWinter: did it work :D ?08:46
bazhangapparle: with or without net access?08:47
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apparlebazhang: Isn't it obvious without net tell mewhich.deb08:48
bazhangapparle: care to join me in #kubuntu-offtopic?08:49
arashJackWinter: Either way I really hope it did :p since I have to be at school in ten minutes XD08:49
JackWinterarash: installing as we chat ;-)08:49
JackWinterthanks alot arash08:50
arashJackWinter: ok, REALLY leaving now :)08:50
ibertse7en__: and you don't have these problems?08:51
apparlebazhang: how to ? I don't know how to use IRC network08:51
bazhangapparle type /join #kubuntu-offtopic08:51
ibertse7en__: could you paste your kernel arguments?08:52
se7en__ibert: how do i do that?08:52
ibertcat /boot/grub/menu.lst|grep kernel08:54
ibertthen you see the kernel lines of your boot proces. mark and copy the first line08:54
ibertand paste it in http://pastebin.com/08:55
se7en__ibert: http://pastebin.com/m695347908:57
ibertse7en__: thanx08:57
ibertse7en__: you don't have these problems I have?08:58
se7en__ibert: no problems here works out of the box with nv and nvidia install is no problem09:00
ibertse7en__: DVI or VGA?09:00
apparlehow to install latest ATI drivers from ati.amd.com on gutsy.  there is nothing here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI09:01
JackWinterhow do i  run this command with gksu: gksu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P50 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18gksu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P50 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o1809:01
JackWintersomething is wrong with my syntax?09:01
bazhangin kubuntu is gksu?09:03
bazhangI thought it was kdesu09:03
JackWinteri was told to get gksu?  should i try kdesu?  i thin there is something wrong with my syntax, maybe a parameter or quotes  missing09:05
bazhanggksu is for ubuntu I believe (gnome)09:06
stdinand you pasted the command twice09:06
bazhangas far as the rest, I'd wait for an expert opinion09:06
JackWinterthanks, will try kdesu09:07
JackWinteryes twice, but it's the second line i'm trying to exec09:07
JackWintergksu /usr/bin etc.09:07
stdinJackWinter: it'd be "gksu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P50 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o1" not "gksu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P50 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o1gksu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P50 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o1"09:08
spirooSorry I ask again on this channel, but I think the problem is grub/kubuntu. When I restart my computer monitor sometimes blinks directly and sometimes it starts to blink when grub shall start. It always happens when rebooting and if I then shut power off and wait awhile it works. I am not sure if it is power supply, monitor, graphics or software.09:08
stdinadd an 8 on the end actually :p09:08
aasiwhere is the keymap for ubuntu found?09:09
aasiin /etc somewhere?09:09
JackWinterstdin: that's what i tried wo the quotes.  my keyboard is very sensitive.  still have to set that up it seems.09:10
spirooI want to know if I shall remove Kubuntu or buy some piece of hardware09:10
aasiwould anyone be able to tell me right quick?09:11
aasi!keymap09:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about keymap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:11
aasi!keyboard09:11
ubotuTo switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts09:11
spirooWhen I come to operative system there is no problem, except that sometimes picture freeze on monitor when I watch video in Kaffeine09:11
spirooThis problem when monitor blinks happen most repeatedly after I installed Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy.09:13
JackWinterok got it. "kdesu -c "/usr/bin/jackd -R -P0 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18" "  thanks alot for the help09:14
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spirooWould appreciate if someone know anything :)09:15
spirooThere is around 300 persons here, does not anyone know?09:19
JackWinteris there a way to run kdesu -c wo using quotes around the command? the problem is that i use an app called qjackctl, to start jackd, and i don't seem to be able to get the last quote parsed in.  means that kdesu will pick up arguments of jackd as its own..09:19
apparle!codec09:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:21
stdinJackWinter: just take off the -c09:21
bazhangspiroo: have you checked at ubuntuforums.org? while someone may not know at the moment, that is a good place to start09:22
JackWinterif i  try "kdesu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P0 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18 " then kdesu  will complain about an invalid argument -R09:23
stdinJackWinter: you can also try: kdesu -- command --with -args09:23
spiroobazhang, Do you have to be a member there?09:24
bazhangspiroo: to post yes; to browse no--very easy and free to join though09:26
bazhangspiroo: 90% of problems I have I get them fixed there--the remaining ones I come here for--very informative site09:27
JackWinterif i  try "kdesu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P0 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18 " then kdesu  will complain about an invalid argument -R09:31
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JackWinterdisregard above please.09:31
JackWinterI guess i have to go and study ;-)  is there a root account in ubuntu?09:32
waylandbill!root09:32
ubotuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo09:32
Navi00Woooo! Go Kubuntu! Yeah!09:32
waylandbillthe answer is yes. There is a root account. There pretty much has to be. That doesn't mean it's use is necessarily needed.09:33
WaltzingAlongJackWinter: otherwise kdesu "/usr/bin/jackd -R -P0 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18"09:34
WaltzingAlongits*09:34
skurakaihi. i'am beginner with kubuntu. can you help me?09:37
bazhangskurakai: what's your question?09:38
skurakaii try change default OS in grub but it send me some error code09:38
JackWinterok, guess i'm still confused from my freebsd days, where i was root occasionally.  i can live with sudo ;-)09:38
skurakaihelp.ubuntu.com/community/grubhowto/changedefaultos09:38
skurakaithis manual doesn't work :(09:39
ardchoilleJackWinter: There is a root account, but it's disabled. Because of the sudo model, logging into the root account is really not necessary09:39
skurakaican you help me?09:41
skurakaiterminal wrote me: cp: cannot stat `/boot/grub/menu.1st': No such file or directory09:41
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skurakaii try backup menu.1st09:41
Jucatoskurakai: it's menu.lst not menu.1st09:41
JackWintertried the following: "sudo /usr/bin/jackd -R -P0 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18", the result was: "cannot use real-time scheduling (FIFO at priority 0) [for thread -1237984368, from thread -1237984368] (22: Invalid argument)" i'm pretty sure the cmaand is correct for jackd.  since sudo did not complain i'm pretty sure it was executed as superuser.  any ideas?09:41
Jucatoskurakai: that's a small letter L09:42
skurakaioh my god :D09:42
skurakaii'am lamer09:42
ardchoillelol09:42
WaltzingAlongmenu list not menu first09:46
sjckanyone got ut3? :P09:46
bazhangsjck: the game?09:47
sjckyea09:47
bazhangproblems with wine?09:47
sjcknah, I dont even got it.. but a friend said you cant change controls in menu wonder if thats true09:48
sjckgoogle helps shit :/09:48
skurakaithanks all - i try update my grub :)09:48
JackWinterany idea where to go for help with qjackctl, jackd & linux-rt in kubuntu?09:49
bazhangplease watch the language sjck09:49
sjckthat was too foul? :<09:49
bazhangJackWinter: perhaps in #linuxhelp?09:49
bazhangyep09:50
JackWinterwhat server?09:50
bazhang!irc09:50
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines09:50
bazhangnot sure there JackWinter but likely this one09:51
smorgHi, I'm running gentoo with kde and am trying to get sudo set up so that it works with similar behavior as it does with ubuntu. Is there a place to find those sudoers config files? or how ubuntu generates them?09:51
newguysshi, is there any tool I can use to georeference images?09:51
bazhangsmorg: have you asked in #gentoo?09:52
JackWinterthanks bazhang!09:52
bazhangno problem :}09:52
se7en_JackWinter: i think in mediaubuntu or studio 64 jackd is enabled by default09:52
smorgno, I checked all the gentoo wikis and sudo documentation. I guess I could just learn the sudo config syntax. (sounds like fun!)09:52
bazhangnewguyss: what do you mean by geo reference images?09:52
Jucatosmorg: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disable_root_password_and_gain_su_sudo_with_no_password09:53
Jucatothe bottom instructins09:53
bazhangsmorg: it's not too hard--believe me :}09:53
smorgsweet :D09:53
JackWinterse7en: i just installed kubuntu, am not gonna give up that easy ;-)09:53
Jucatosmorg: you also have to setup kdesu to use sudo instead of su09:54
bazhangJackWinter: ubuntu studio might have it all by default as well09:54
newguyssbazhang: to use the image as map it needs to be geo referenced.09:55
bazhangnewguyss: ok--so like google earth?09:55
newguyssnot exactly, but similar, I have image and when I gdlainfo the image i done get geo referencing09:56
newguyssthe geo referenced images returns something like that09:56
newguyssCorner Coordinates:09:56
newguyssUpper Left  ( -79.0000000,  25.0000000) ( 79d 0'0.00"W, 25d 0'0.00"N)09:56
newguyssLower Left  ( -79.0000000,  23.0000000) ( 79d 0'0.00"W, 23d 0'0.00"N)09:56
ayakohi09:58
apparleanybody has foxconn motherboard here10:00
Lamartinhi all. Can anybody help me with a replication issue with (k) ubuntu ?10:01
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WaltzingAlongLamartin: which is10:03
ayakoanyone know where i can download clisp and freemind and emacs for kubuntu10:03
WaltzingAlongayako: freemind from freemind.sf.net10:03
Jucato!info freemind10:03
WaltzingAlong!find emacs10:03
ubotuPackage freemind does not exist in gutsy10:04
ubotuFound: emacs-goodies-el, emacsen-common, acl2-emacs, aleph-emacs, cxref-emacs (and 53 others)10:04
Jucatooh I see10:04
LamartinWaltzingAlong: i have an Ubuntu model machine. I am used to rsync that model machines on many identical target machines (using rsync)10:04
LamartinWaltzingAlong: it worked fine with debian10:04
ayakowhere do type !find freemind and !find emacs10:04
LamartinWaltzingAlong: now, with (k)ubuntu, the boot process stops at "Starting kernel log daemon"10:04
WaltzingAlongayako: right here. just put them at the front of the lines. HOWEVER use /msg ubotu !find freemind10:05
ardchoilleayako: In your irc client10:05
WaltzingAlong!msgthebot | ayako10:05
ubotuayako: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.10:05
LamartinWaltzingAlong: (i changed the UUID settings in /etc/fstab)10:05
apparleanybody good at handling sound problems10:05
LamartinWaltzingAlong: can u help me ?10:06
WaltzingAlongLamartin: if you think the issue is the uuid, you could run blkid to get the uuid numbers or just revert back to /dev/sda1 and the like10:06
LamartinWaltzingAlong: no, i am 100% sure it's not an UUID issue10:07
ayakoi have problem listening to music with headphones10:08
LamartinWaltzingAlong: if i skip that step (exit 0 in the init.d/klogd file), next process would result in the same "freeze" (boot process, not machine)10:08
WaltzingAlongLamartin: i do not know10:09
LamartinWaltzingAlong: ok, thanks anyway10:09
ayakothe laptop speaker is being used can not hear anything with headphones10:10
ayakoguys10:13
ayakoanybody there10:14
bazhanghi10:14
ayakoi know anyone is busy10:14
ayakobut im new to kubuntu10:15
apparlehow to install modem10:15
bazhangayako: try launching alsamixer from Konsole10:15
ayakohow10:15
ayakowhat is the code10:15
apparleayako: alsamixer10:15
bazhangayako: open the Konsole and type alsamixer10:15
ayakogot it10:16
ayakonow what\10:16
bazhangayako: what is your sound card?10:16
apparlehow to install an internal modem10:16
ayakoVIA 823710:16
bazhangapparle: hardware?10:17
apparleHSP7010:17
bazhangayako: is that onboard or pci10:17
ayakochip is Realtek ALC655 rev 010:17
bazhangpci then10:17
bazhangapparle: hardware or software?10:17
ayakoon board10:17
bazhangoops10:18
bazhangayako: what does aplay -l say?10:18
ayakonothing10:19
apparlebazhang: my friend installed gutsy yesterday. We opened KPPP and in 'modem panel' when we 'query modem' msg "unable to open modem"10:19
ayakojust '' > ''10:19
JackWinterany idea which channel is for supporting jack under ubuntu>10:21
apparlebazhang: my friend installed gutsy yesterday. We opened KPPP and in 'modem panel'. When we 'query modem' msg "unable to open modem"10:22
bazhangayako: so card is not recognized--just a moment, finding the proper link10:22
ayakois there anything i can do10:22
ayakothank you very very much10:22
bazhangapparle: without net access again?10:22
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apparlebazhang: first> this is my friend's problem not mine, second> trying to get net access by installing modem10:24
stdinapparle: seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto ?10:25
se7en_JackWinter: #ubuntustudio, #ubuntustudio-es and #ubuntustudio-fr on irc.freenode.net10:26
stdinyou are on irc.freenode.net10:27
nevilleHey, I have a winmodem10:27
nevilleNot the same type as yours10:28
nevilleBut10:28
nevilleI used this tool10:28
ayakobazhang: you know alot about ubuntu/kubuntu10:28
omnagBonjour à tous !10:28
stdin!fr10:28
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:28
bazhangayako: not really--just know how to search ubuntuforums.org and google :} 90% of problems solved there10:29
omnagthanks ;)10:29
ayakostill you need to be able to use the right search terms/phrases10:30
ayakoto get any kind of result10:30
nevillehttp://132.68.73.235/linmodems/index.html#scanModem10:30
omnagcan someone help me please ?10:30
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stdinomnag: you have to ask a question first10:30
bazhangayako: they seem to be eluding me for the moment--will check for a bit longer--so excuse my absence :}10:31
omnagok10:31
Chimplatohi10:31
ayakono thank you for helping and the hardwork and effort your putting in10:31
ayakothis is something i should resolve myself but10:31
omnagI have installed linux on laptop and it s great but iiii want to put my drivers10:31
ayakoi dont know how thats why i asked for help10:32
omnagbut they will be installed only with xp10:32
stdinomnag: drivers for what?10:32
omnagi have a cd driver for the hardware10:32
omnagwifi etc10:32
stdindoes the wifi work ?10:32
omnagbut it only work with xp10:32
omnagi dont test10:33
stdinlinux normally has drivers with it, no need for a cd10:33
stdintest it and see10:33
omnagahhh ok10:33
stdinalso...10:33
stdin!wifi10:33
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:33
omnagso i dont need to install drivers ?10:33
omnagfor anything ? because when i reboot xp i must install drivers with the cd10:34
stdinomnag: windows drivers don't work with linux, but most things have drivers included. for things that don't there are guides like the link above10:34
omnagok10:34
stdinlinux works with most thing from starting, no need to setup after install10:34
omnagthak you much =very10:36
omnagvery much10:36
stdin:)10:36
apparleI have ATI IXP SB450 . no sound mixer10:40
dmHello. I use Konqueror for file browsing. When opening a new Konqueror window in an NFS nounted directory I can not see all files there immediately. I must do a manual reload. How can I avoid this behaviour?10:44
apparlestdin: I can hear sound only when I install OSS drivers but ALSA drivers donot work for me10:46
apparlewhy10:46
stdinI don't know, my sound has always just worked10:47
stdin(probably because the official intel drivers are open-source)10:47
apparle I can hear sound only when I install OSS drivers but ALSA drivers donot work for me. Anybody knows why10:47
apparlestdin: I have ATI IXP SB450 card10:48
bazhangayako: this is the link--http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20544910:50
ayakowhat do i do with that10:50
bazhangayako: read it?10:51
apparlebye everybody10:51
bazhangbye10:51
apparlethanks bazhang and stdin10:51
stdinbye10:51
bazhangapparle: see you later :}10:52
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frojndwhere can I see log file from ubuntu reboot ? because I get some note that network sensors fail ?? so what's the name of that kinda log, when ubuntu is starting before it gets to login screen ??10:56
stdinfrojnd: /var/log/dmesg /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kernlog are the best ones to look at10:58
frojndstdin, than10:59
frojndx10:59
frojndstdin, that's weired11:02
frojndI haven't found anything abiut sensors or fail in bouth 311:02
frojndall 3*11:02
stdinyou can always try the all-powerful grep, something like: grep -R "a string I'm looking for" /var/log 2>/dev/null11:03
stdinthat'll search all files in /var/log for "a string I'm looking for"11:03
stdin(and the 2>/dev/null redirects all error messages to /dev/null, so they don't show)11:04
frojndwhat does 2>/dev/null means11:09
luigiaiuto nn mi apre hotmail11:09
frojndoh..11:09
frojndu allready said it :)11:09
luigiaiuto nn mi apre hotmail11:09
frojndluigi #ubuntu.it #ubuntu-it11:10
luigiaiuto nn mi apre hotmail11:10
frojndor is it spam11:10
frojndstdin, /dev/null is some temporarly directory?11:15
stdinfrojnd: no, it's "null",11:15
frojndnothing11:15
frojndzero11:15
stdinthink of it like a black-hole11:15
frojnd?11:15
frojndoh..11:15
frojndok11:15
stdinanything can go in, nothing can come out11:15
frojndthat's more good fo an explanation :)11:16
frojndkewl :D11:16
frojndso maybe we could put in all the bad code :D11:16
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stdinsend all complaints to /dev/null :)11:16
dmHello. I use Konqueror for file browsing. When opening a new Konqueror window in an NFS nounted directory I can not see all files there immediately. I must do a manual reload. How can I avoid this behaviour?11:16
frojndyes but does this solves the problem stdin, will the next time be my boot time faster and without those fail messages?11:17
stdinfrojnd: depends on the messages, you use grep to find the log with info about it to fix it11:18
frojndstdin, I get message like *sensors                               [fail]11:18
frojndndiswrappere load                                                                 [ok]11:18
frojnd...11:18
frojndand like this11:18
stdinahh, that's a service11:18
frojndyeah11:18
stdinthat won't really effect boot time, maybe by a few milliseconds11:19
frojndbut why it doesn't load sensors11:19
frojndcause I have one biger problem than this, and this is maye connected with it11:20
frojndafter I type in my user name and password in gnome login menu11:20
frojndit needs like 3-5mins to load all the icons...11:20
stdinprobably because your hardware needs some special driver to read the sensor data11:20
stdinthat wouldn't be related to sensors11:20
frojndstdin, where can I check for this11:20
frojndoh :(11:20
stdinsensors read mostly just the temperature and fan speed11:21
frojndstdin, well that's ok, since I have laptop and at high work of my bad code T can ARISE :D11:22
ayakohi11:22
stdinwith good acpi support you don't need the sensors service to reed CPU temp11:22
ayakoi am getting the following error message11:22
frojndstdin, what is acpi ?11:23
ayakosub-process /usr/bin/dpke error code 111:23
ayakocannot find build essential11:23
frojndayako: sudo apt-get install build-essential11:23
ayakousr/bin/dpke reconfigure: alsa-source not installed11:23
ayakoyes11:23
stdinfrojnd: acpi is a standard way for the operating system to interface with the power and configuration hardware (for example suspend/resume)11:24
ayakofor the problem with using headphones11:24
ayakothe ubuntu forum help advice failed11:25
ayakocould not complete because of the above error messages11:26
bazhangayako: tried installing alsa source?11:26
ayakoyes that fails11:26
bazhangwhat is the error message with that?11:26
ayakoget message asla-source not installed error code 111:27
stdinand use pastebin11:27
ayakocan you confirm the code for installing the alsa-source11:27
ayakojust in case i did it wrong11:27
oupa!kde411:28
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php11:28
stdin!alsa-source | ayako11:29
ayakobazhang i used this code: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) module-assistant alsa-source11:29
ayako!alsa-source11:29
ayakowhere11:29
ubotuayako: Want to use alsa 0.11? Grab and install http://archive.progeny.com/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.11-2_all.deb, install linux-headers-$(uname -r) module-assistant and build-essential and run sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source11:29
ayakobuild fails11:31
ayakotried that11:31
ayakoinstallation fails too11:31
waylandbillayako: what error does it give when it fails?11:33
ayakosound base not installed11:34
ayakosub-process usr/bin/dpkg error code 111:37
waylandbillayako: did the packages ubotu shows to install actually install or did they fail too?11:37
ayakoalso failed11:37
waylandbillayako: did you try installing just one at a time, like just the linux headers?11:38
ayakohow11:38
ayakowhat code11:39
ayakoaplay -l picks up sound card11:40
ayakoand sub-devices11:40
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waylandbillayako: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:42
fryguy101Okay, here's a fun one... Adept prompted me that Gutsy was out, and that I could upgrade... so I did, and now KDE doesn't work (It boots to command line, and startkde fails).11:42
fryguy101Any ideas?11:42
waylandbillfryguy101: there should be an error in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. It may give you a better idea of what has happened.11:43
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fryguy101Thanks. I'll see what I can figure out... (Using live CD, only way I can get internet...)11:44
waylandbillfryguy101: you could always reconfigure the xserver to use vesa fallback driver until you have more info11:45
ayakoreturns error code 111:47
waylandbillayako: can you paste bin the output so there's some context and not just the return value?11:48
ayakohow11:49
waylandbillayako: copy it out of the terminal window and use a pastebin service11:50
waylandbill!paste11:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:50
ayakoE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)11:50
WaltzingAlongsudo aptitude -f install         or          sudo dpkg --configure -a11:51
stdinayako: post the whole of the output to pastebin, otherwise we can't really see what's happening11:51
ayakoi am talking from another computer11:53
ayakokubuntu is on different computer11:53
WaltzingAlongssh into it then you can copy/paste11:53
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WaltzingAlong!info linux-backports-modules11:56
ubotulinux-backports-modules: Generic Linux backported drivers.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB11:56
fryguy0101Okay... so the problem is definately not X. Nothing in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to suggest it. typing 'X' started a sucessful X session, but without KDE it was rather... pointless.11:57
ayakohere is it11:57
ayakotsukimori@tsukimori-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:57
ayakoPassword:11:57
ayakoReading package lists... Done11:57
ayakoBuilding dependency tree11:57
ayakoReading state information... Done11:57
ayakolinux-headers-2.6.17-12-generic is already the newest version.11:57
ayako0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.11:57
ayako1 not fully installed or removed.11:57
ayakoNeed to get 0B of archives.11:57
ayakoAfter unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.11:58
ayakoSetting up graphviz-cairo (2.8-2) ...11:58
ayako/var/lib/dpkg/info/graphviz-cairo.postinst: 11: dot: not found11:58
ayakodpkg: error processing graphviz-cairo (--configure):11:58
ayako subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 12711:58
ayakoErrors were encountered while processing:11:58
ayako graphviz-cairo11:58
ayakoE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)11:58
ayakotsukimori@tsukimori-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:58
ayakoReading package lists... Done11:58
ayakoBuilding dependency tree11:58
ayakoReading state information... Done11:58
ayakolinux-headers-2.6.17-12-generic is already the newest version.11:58
ayako0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.11:58
ayako1 not fully installed or removed.11:58
ayakoNeed to get 0B of archives.11:58
ayakoAfter unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.11:58
ayakoSetting up graphviz-cairo (2.8-2) ...11:58
ayako/var/lib/dpkg/info/graphviz-cairo.postinst: 11: dot: not found11:58
WaltzingAlongayako: for that you should use pastebin11:58
ayakodpkg: error processing graphviz-cairo (--configure):11:58
bazhangpastebin11:58
ayako subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 12711:58
ayakoErrors were encountered while processing:11:58
ayako graphviz-cairo11:58
ayakoE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)11:58
ayakotsukimori@tsukimori-laptop:~$11:58
ayakourl - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45218/plain/11:58
WaltzingAlongayako: sudo dpkg -r graphviz-cairo11:59
ayakomessage:  errors encountered while processing graphviz-cairo12:00
fryguy0101Hrm... should I just download the alternate install CD iso, and run it in rescue?12:01
WaltzingAlongfryguy0101: what was the issue?12:02
fryguy0101KDE won't start. No login screen, nothing.12:02
WaltzingAlongfryguy0101: always? recently? can you get into a terminal?12:02
fryguy0101X will happily start, but with no desktop environment it's not too helpful12:02
fryguy0101After the recent dist-upgrade12:02
fryguy0101it boots to terminal12:03
WaltzingAlongthen does launching startkde give you the k desktop environment?12:03
waylandbillfryguy0101: did /var/log/Xorg.0.log show anything helpful?12:03
fryguy0101Nope, it fails12:03
fryguy0101Nope. Showed everything going fine.12:03
waylandbillayako: I don't know how you got graphviz-cairo without dot. I'm sure it's a dependency.12:04
ayakohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45219/12:04
ayakonew url12:05
waylandbillfryguy0101: it didn't have stuff about not finding any screens?12:05
ayakohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45219/12:05
rysiek|plhi guys12:05
fryguy0101Nope.12:05
rysiek|plwill I get *any* help whatsoever with sopme strange compiz artifacts here? or should I got to *#compiz-fusion, etc?12:06
WaltzingAlongwaylandbill: apparently X loads, just not kde12:06
WaltzingAlongKubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | rysiek|pl i would think elsewhere, like the channel and wiki for compiz12:06
rysiek|plok, thx12:07
waylandbillWaltzingAlong: oh ok. I thought it was just getting the VT login and nothing else.12:07
ayakodo anything else i can try12:07
WaltzingAlongayako: there are ways to force the issue12:09
bazhangheh12:09
ayakoi got it work12:12
ayakojust some changes in mixer12:12
ayakohappend accidentally12:13
luigihi all!12:18
luigiwhen i upgdate adept i have an error: another process is using the packaging system database....12:19
luigiwhat can i do?12:19
stdin!aptfix12:19
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:19
WaltzingAlongluigi: or close the other program using the db12:19
JohnFluxi wish someone would just fix apt12:20
JohnFluxseveral people a day have that problem12:21
WaltzingAlongJohnFlux: what is wrong with apt?12:21
JohnFluxWaltzingAlong: see ubotu's message12:21
luigiWaltzingAlong how can i close it using database?12:22
JohnFluxwhen a lock is made, the pid of the process should be recorded.  apt should then check if the database is locked, and if so check whether the process is still running12:22
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student_siema12:22
JohnFluxluigi: read what ubotu said12:22
F3000Hello there. I've faced such a fancy problem with my Kubuntu, that adept manager stopped huge-scale updating while around 50% was updated because an error. Now I'm unable to continue the updating process, and the whole system seems to be (partially) screwed.12:22
WaltzingAlongyeah that seems like one way so12:22
student_co robicie cipki?12:22
WaltzingAlongF3000: open konsole. sudo aptitude -f install            what are the results?12:22
flaccid!xvid12:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:23
student_szpary brzydkie12:23
student_adriana  godzinami lizalbym ci stopy12:24
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F30000 updates, 0 new installs, 0 removable and 0 updated. (raw translation)12:24
WaltzingAlongJohnFlux: though in some ways that should not really be apt's task, should it be12:24
Prorokhello12:24
WaltzingAlongF3000: ok how about sudo dpkg --configure -a12:24
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JohnFluxWaltzingAlong: sure it should be apt's task12:25
F3000I've done that.12:25
KUPAhalooo12:25
JohnFluxWaltzingAlong: well, possibly dpkg's task12:25
JohnFluxWaltzingAlong: but either dpkg or apt12:25
WaltzingAlongJohnFlux: ;D12:25
F3000actually, it does nothing, when redone.12:25
WaltzingAlongF3000: ok and now adept manager does not open?12:25
KUPAprorok12:25
KUPAlalalala12:25
Proroknom\?12:25
ayakothank you to Hazhang and WaltzingAlong12:26
KUPAznów kolacji nie bedzie tralalalalala12:26
Prorokhahha12:26
ayakofor all the time and help you gave me12:26
KUPAcisniemy w cs'a12:26
F3000It does open.12:26
KUPA?12:26
flaccidhow do i get xvid codec on gutsy?12:26
Proroktylko sie to wylaczy gówno ;P12:26
KUPAhehe12:26
JucatoKUPA, Prorok:  English only12:26
ayakosorry to have bothered to so much12:26
WaltzingAlongF3000: ok but you want to resume the upgrade from feisty to gutsy?12:26
ayakobye12:26
WaltzingAlongayako: take care!12:26
KUPAoka sorry12:26
ayakoyou to12:26
ProrokOK, So Kupka can we play CS now ? ;p12:27
F3000It's not update from earlier version  to newer. It's more of "update after installing".12:27
KUPAI think we can12:27
Jucatonot in here12:27
F3000I didn't have that PC connected to net while I made the install.12:27
Prorokc'mon lets do this :D12:27
KUPAo yeeeahh12:27
KUPAProrok, Kiełbasa is whore12:28
ProrokHow  edit color numbers in Linux Konsole?12:28
F3000Plus, I wanted to have finnish packages installed.12:28
Jucato!language | KUPA12:28
ubotuKUPA: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.12:28
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luigiubotu it krash again..12:28
Jucatoluigi: ubotu is just a bot. it won't respond to you12:29
ProrokDo you know what "KUPA" means in polish?12:29
Prorokoffensive name ^^12:29
luigiohu.12:29
F3000everything went smooth with the update, until error. I got that error fixed with sudo dpkg --configure -a , but I can't continue the updating process that was aborted.12:29
WaltzingAlongF3000: ok then it should be able to grab the updates to the list and upgrade the packages. in konsole, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade        would do these two things12:29
KUPA'KUPA' is 'kaka'12:30
WaltzingAlong!info language-support-fi | F3000 for finnish language support12:30
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ubotuf3000 for finnish language support: language-support-fi: metapackage for Finnish language support. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.04+20070209 (gutsy), package size 2 kB, installed size 40 kB12:31
luigisomeone here have a DELL INSPIRON 9400 with nvidia geforce go 7900 gs?12:31
Proroki have only GForce 6600 GT ;/12:32
luigii cannot put driver nvidia...12:32
Prorokhmm...12:32
KUPAi have GF 8500GT12:32
F3000WaltzingAlong: W: the upgrade command is deprecated; use "safe-upgrade" instead.12:33
Proroko.O12:33
F3000Said console.12:33
WaltzingAlongF3000: (yes, thanks. aptitude with gutsy reports so - ok)12:33
luigior better, i put driver, seem that it cath driver, but on rebooting it gon12:34
luigiit goes in safe mode..12:34
luigihow can i put nvidia driver?12:35
dmHello. I use Konqueror for file browsing. When opening a new Konqueror window in an NFS nounted directory I can not see all files there immediately. I must do a manual reload. How can I avoid this behaviour?12:35
WaltzingAlongF3000: so that should install any upgrades to packages currently installed. you should be able to do the same from adept manager12:35
WaltzingAlong!nvidia | luigi. kmenu/system settings/advanced/restricted drivers  would be the easy way12:35
ubotuluigi. kmenu/system settings/advanced/restricted drivers  would be the easy way: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:35
luigii'm not appy with restricted driver..12:36
luigii want the latest by nvidia..12:36
luigii wish...12:37
WaltzingAlongluigi: ok then the weblink i sent should describe how to do that as well12:39
luigiWaltzingAlong tanksssss12:39
luigiWaltzingAlong i already hawe it...12:41
luigion 64 bit!12:41
WaltzingAlongluigi: ah 64bit :p ok. open konsole. wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run; bash NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run;12:42
luigiWaltzingAlong wath's difference between restricted and latest driver by nvidia?12:43
capagiraHi there12:43
capagirais anybody experiencing problems with the tzdata update ?12:44
luigiWaltzingAlong bash is the command that i do in konsole?12:44
WaltzingAlongsome are packaged nicely by ubuntu ie restricted; the others are packaged by nvidia and are more recent but slightly more difficult to install12:44
WaltzingAlongluigi: ok12:44
luigii want the second one!12:44
luigii want to try compiz!12:45
luigi:-))12:45
F3000WaltzingAlong: thanks for the help, altho I'm going to reinstall whole thing... *sigh*12:45
WaltzingAlongluigi: the first should enable compiz too12:45
WaltzingAlongF3000: but what upgrade is there that you cannot continue? you have gutsy already and aptitude -f install reported no problems12:45
luigibut with this i cannot use neither tetris!!12:45
WaltzingAlongF3000: the apt-get -f install you ran or dpkg-configure -a would have taken care of any pieces left over from an upgrade interrupted12:46
capagirais anybody experiencing problems with the tzdata update ?12:47
KUPAfuck the police12:47
F3000WaltzingAlong: there's few things that complain missing pieces, and shutdown seems to take forever (2 errors so far)12:47
stdinKUPA: watch the language and content12:47
KUPAsuck my dick you whore12:48
stdinwell, that was fun ;)12:48
Ford_PrefectWow.12:48
capagiratzdata update anyone ??12:48
Ford_PrefectThat was an interesting experience for someone who came to #kubuntu for the first time12:49
Ford_Prefect:)12:49
BluesKajsome 11 yr old finally got on his mom's pc12:49
stephanHey, just discovered konversation.  New here, just wanted to ask, who are you people?12:50
stdinto tell you the truth, I knew that was going to happen, so I had the kick ready12:50
WaltzingAlongstephan: same as you i suppose12:50
stdinstephan: well, you can see the topic when you joined. this is the official kubuntu support channel12:51
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smorgthats good news12:51
smorgeven a 10 year old can install kubuntu12:51
stephanOh!, cool I was looking for something like that.12:51
capagirapls anybody knows how to circumvent the problem with the tzdata update ?12:51
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BluesKajstephan, we're kubuntu santa's lil helpers :)12:53
stdincapagira: what problem is that?12:53
capagirasince I tried to update it this morning12:53
BluesKajtime zone12:53
capagiraI'm having problem with the locales12:53
capagirathe update failed12:53
capagirado you know if the package is broken ?12:54
stdininstalled fine here12:54
capagirathe configuration fails here12:54
stdinpost it to pastebin and we'll have a look12:54
Daisuke-Idowhy do i always miss the fun ones?12:55
capagirait fails to set some LC vars12:55
BluesKajstdin, this is becoming a problem lately , 3rd or 4th complaint about Time Zone in as many days12:56
stdinwell there was an update today to gutsy-backports12:56
capagirastdin. I'm sorry post it whereto?12:56
stdin!paste12:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:56
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capagiraI copied and pasted the errors12:58
capagiranow what?12:58
stdinpost the url here12:59
WaltzingAlongcapagira: submitting it gives a new URL which you share with us12:59
capagirayup12:59
capagirahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45225/12:59
WaltzingAlongexactly12:59
capagirathanks12:59
WaltzingAlongis        sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales         needed?13:01
eljefe__I am getting AC3 encoding errors on KMediaFactory.  Does anyone know if this is an FFMPEG issue?13:01
capagirait was needed after I tried to reinstall tzdata13:01
WaltzingAlongcapagira: but tzdata still fails ? i had a similar issue but only inside a chroot environment13:02
capagirayep it fails13:03
poison--mornin guys13:03
BluesKajhey poison-- , what's yer poison ? :)13:07
hcbox_is it possible to virtualize leopard on ubuntu gusty using kvm + qemu ?13:07
ubuntuhello again....13:09
ubuntuhere i am, for some questions13:09
BluesKajask away13:10
ubuntuok13:10
ubuntui was not sure if somebody is there13:11
ubuntufine13:11
hcbox_:)13:11
ubuntuwhat is the system requirement of ubuntu...13:11
hcbox_lol :)13:11
ubuntu...but don't tell me what is there written13:11
hcbox_depends of your needs13:12
tomazyou can install in a 333mhz with no problems,13:12
hcbox_yes13:12
tomazand a 10gb hd.13:12
hcbox_yes13:12
ubuntui have a vm and like to configuarate it13:12
hcbox_i used for months 10gb for system + home13:12
tomazi run it flawessly in a 500mhz in a 2ogb hd.13:12
tomazthe full system is about 3gb13:13
ubuntuwhat is about ram??13:13
ubuntuhow much cost it13:13
tomaz64 of ram is enought. but if you have more is a plus.13:13
BluesKaj256 minimum13:13
ubuntuthere is a mini of 25613:13
tomazwith 64 things will be a little ... slow.13:14
BluesKajeven 128 is slow13:14
tomazmaybe this will change with kde4.13:14
tomazi run with 128 without problems13:14
tomaz(and without any fancy stuff on the graphics side, of course)13:14
ubuntubut....what need it to run with full speed13:14
BluesKajdon't hold your breath about kde4 being faster13:14
poison--<BluesKaj, for the last two days i leave my computer on all night long, and when i arrive, its freezed13:15
poison--any ideas13:15
hcbox_lol  me too, but iit cam from opengl screenssaver13:16
BluesKajthat's a pretty broad question poison-- , memory leaks or too many processed which amounts to the same thing13:16
BluesKajerr processes13:17
poison--well, only thing i leave running is virtualbox running XP and FlashFXP leeching13:17
poison--weird :(13:17
BluesKajpoison--, are you running any auto programs on overnight13:18
ubuntuhow much ram i need to run kubuntu 6.10 with fast speed??13:18
posingaspopular512 or so I would say ubuntu13:18
posingaspopulardepends on how much you're using the system. if you're doing web browing, music and chat, then i would day 512 is good13:19
posingaspopularbut it really depends on how much applications are open13:19
BluesKajpoison--, why would you have VB running overnight ?13:20
ubuntu@posingaspopular    i have a virtuel machine an like to configurate it the right way13:20
ubuntu@posingaspopular    but i dont want to give to much ram13:21
posingaspopularahh im not sure about the requriments for a VM, but i used to run kubuntu 6.10 on my old computer with 512 ram just fine.13:22
ubuntu@posingaspopular    ok, that sounds fine.13:22
BluesKajubuntu , virtuals love to use up RAM cuz you're running 2 OS's simultaneously13:22
hcbox_is it possible to virtualize leopard on ubuntu gusty using kvm + qemu ?13:23
baudthiefany way to find out what packages were recently installed? For some reason installing spamassassin broke my compiz-fusion install :\13:23
poison--<BluesKaj, cause i use FlashFXP alot, and i couldnt make it work with wine13:23
BluesKaj!patience | hcbox_ we saw your question the first time...perhaps you might ask in #ubuntu13:24
ubotuhcbox_ we saw your question the first time...perhaps you might ask in #ubuntu: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines13:24
gnomefreakhcbox_: if it is a ppc/mac box yes if not theres alot of hacking you have to do and it is not supported at all13:25
BluesKajsorry poison-- dunno anything about FlashFXP :(13:27
gnomefreakbaudthief: there is a log in /var/log/dpkg.log13:27
Downixhcbox_:  heck, getting a Mac DVD to mount is a challenge enough.  I can't even get my Mac to mount my OS X CD to upgrade OS 9 to OS X.13:28
gnomefreakbaudthief: you might want to look in dpkg.log.1 and or .2 as well13:28
gnomefreakbaudthief: dpkg.log is latest13:28
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gnomefreakpoison--: more than likely i would say no it will not work in wine, please see #winehq for more info on it to see if they got it running and how much hacking they had to do but likely is no it wont work13:31
BluesKajDownix, I heard that's a very difficult issue upgrading from 9 to OSX13:31
draremack!  how do I enable preview of jpg's, bmp's, png's, etc..13:32
ActionParsniplo all13:32
* ActionParsnip waves13:32
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gnomefreakpoison--: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351841&page=7 for a deb of it13:33
DownixBluesKaj: I even tried to get Linux here to mount it, and NFS'ing it, but no go13:33
ActionParsnipdrarem: do you use dolphin / konqueror?13:33
draremyea yea i went to kcontrol/file manager/behavior or something and enabled system protocol and media protocal local13:33
draremkonqueror13:33
draremalso tried nautilus :/13:34
draremdon't have dolphin i think13:34
drarem7.1013:34
poison--ty gnomefreak13:34
baudthiefMy install somehow screwed up, I'm guessing I have to resolve items listed as "half-configured":  http://pastebin.com/m6e0e49f4 (machine crashed out during an update... I think)13:34
gnomefreakpoison--: here you go but not sure how much help these links will be http://www.google.com/search?q=flashfxp+on+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a13:34
baudthiefany idea how I can fix that?13:34
stdindrarem: tried  view -> previews -> images ?13:35
gnomefreakbaudthief: run sudo dpkg --configure -a13:35
gnomefreakbaudthief: if that doesnt help run dist-upgrade again13:35
ActionParsnipdrarem: looks like its in system config13:35
draremeverything except sound files is checked13:35
ActionParsnipdrarem: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kcontrol/filemanager/index.html13:35
drarembtw these are remote files..13:35
draremin a network13:36
draremgoing thru smb://13:36
stdindrarem: Settings > Configure Konqueror -> Previews & Metadata    you have to enable it for the network type13:36
draremdaaohh13:36
baudthiefgnomefreak: Do I need to reboot / restart X afterwards?13:37
gnomefreakbaudthief: depedns on updates it will tell you if you have to or not13:37
gnomefreakdepends*13:37
gnomefreakbaudthief: if you see X updates hal hald kernel than yes maybe even dbus (cant remember if its hal or dbus that needs it13:38
draremwhat do i enable for that13:38
gnomefreakdrarem: go to Settings >Configure Konq> Previews and enable it13:39
gnomefreakpreviews & metadata13:39
baudthiefgnomefreak: thanks!13:39
gnomefreakatleast that is what stdin meant13:39
gnomefreakbaudthief: ;)13:39
draremhad to enable smb13:39
stdinyep13:40
draremthanks much13:40
gnomefreakim not on kde atm so i cant look to see if its right but i trust stdin13:40
stdinheh :)13:40
tungDoes anyone know how to type vietnamese13:43
emilsedghtung: go to systemSettings->Reginal & Language->Keyboard Layout13:45
baudthiefOk, that didn't work. Help please! Compiz-fusion stopped working after installing a package (spamassassin), on closer inspection 'glxinfo | grep -i direct' returns this: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"13:47
baudthiefxorg.conf shows the driver in use is indeed nvidia and not nv13:48
Downixbaudthief: do you have MESA installed?13:48
stdinbaudthief: and you have "Load    "glx"" in "Section "Module"" ?13:49
baudthiefstdin: yes, as far as I can tell, xorg.conf wasn't modified13:49
baudthiefDownix: I don't know what that is13:50
Downixbaudthief: It's the 3D interface for the system.13:51
tunghow can I make firefox the default web browser in kubuntu13:51
baudthiefDownix: If it's a necessity, It must've been installed - I havent removed anything matching that, so maybe it broke somehow?13:51
stdin!default13:53
ubotuTo change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"13:53
DownixI've had it "forget" to install before, but that was during feisty.13:53
stdintung: System Settings > Default Applications13:53
tungthanks13:54
baudthiefDownix: libgl1-mesa-dev, libgl1-mesa-dri, libgl1-mesa-glx, libglu1-mesa... among others appear to be installed13:54
BluesKajtung, in the konsole type: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser , choose the number of the browser..also you should also change or make sure FF is the default in system settings13:54
Downixok, that was my main guess13:55
baudthiefWould reinstalling nvidia's driver help?13:56
WaltzingAlongbaudthief: start with the x log /var/log/Xorg.0.log13:57
gnomefreakbaudthief: use restricted-manager to set up drivers if you have to remove nvidia-glx-* what ever one you need for cvard13:58
gnomefreakcard*13:58
gnomefreakit will automagicly set up and add lines to xorg.conf as needed13:58
baudthiefWaltzingAlong: Checked the log file specified, does indeed contain warnings about failing to init GLX and suggests a reinstallation of the driver13:59
WaltzingAlongbaudthief: see gnomefreak's comment ^^14:00
* genii sips on a large black coffee14:00
baudthiefgnomefreak: restricted-manager only shows me a tickbox (or rather, a crossbox) next to the NVIDIA accelerated ... driver, am I just unticking, reboot, then reticking?14:00
baudthiefcouldn't see any other configurable options14:01
* WaltzingAlong just finished his double mocha, ;) thought you might like to know genii14:01
WaltzingAlongbaudthief: sure14:01
baudthiefalright, i'll give it a shot14:01
baudthiefif this breaks, you're all going to hell :P{14:01
geniiWaltzingAlong: :)14:01
WaltzingAlongbaudthief: :D ok14:02
tungwhen kubuntu start, there is no splash screen (loading screen)14:02
tungI has reinstalled many times but the same issue happens14:03
gnomefreaktung: usplash?14:04
tungI tried it too14:04
gnomefreakthe one that just says kubuntu after you choose kernel in grub?14:04
gnomefreakor the one after you log in to kdm?14:04
tungthe second14:04
gnomefreaktung: did you go into settings and set one? does it work than?14:05
* gnomefreak cant think of menu item atm but i think its "settings"14:06
geniisudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so14:06
tungcan you show me14:06
genii^tung14:06
gnomefreakgenii: its not usplash14:06
gnomefreakgenii: its the splash screen after kdm14:07
geniignomefreak: Ah, my bad then :)14:07
gnomefreaktung: click on the Kmenu and choose settings or configuration cant think of it but it should be a top level menu item14:07
tungthe splash screen after i choose kubuntu in grub doesn't load14:08
geniiI'm having a caffeine deficiency this morning14:08
gnomefreaktung: so its before you log in at kdm?14:08
Areliswhat's a good IRC client for KDE?14:09
* WaltzingAlong passes genii a keg of black coffee14:09
WaltzingAlong!info konversation | Arelis14:09
ubotuarelis: konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 5034 kB, installed size 12988 kB14:09
* genii gulps some down14:09
gnomefreak09:04 <      gnomefreak > the one that just says kubuntu after you choose  kernel in grub?14:09
gnomefreak09:04 <      gnomefreak > or the one after you log in to kdm?14:09
gnomefreak09:04 <            tung > the second14:09
gnomefreakis it first or second?14:09
tungthe one after i choose kubuntu in grub14:09
gnomefreaktung: see genii command above and please post output14:10
tungthis problem not happen in feisty14:10
gnomefreakgenii: you were right but you see with my paste why i thought it was other14:10
geniignomefreak: Yup :)14:11
gnomefreaktung: your not using feisty anymore14:11
tungi am using gusty14:11
gnomefreaktung: i know and you cant compare the 2 of them work with what you have only14:11
gnomefreaktung: please post output from the update-alrternatives command14:11
gnomefreakalternatives14:11
gnomefreaktung: also please pastebin the contents in /etc/usplash.conf14:12
tungThere is only 1 program which provides usplash-artwork.so14:13
tung(/usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so). Nothing to configure.14:13
gnomefreakok14:13
gnomefreaktung: does kdm finally load?14:14
tungyes14:14
gnomefreakthan most likely its the res you have set in /etc/usplash.conf14:14
geniibah work. AFK14:15
gnomefreaktung: does it have same settings as # Usplash configuration file14:15
gnomefreakxres=102414:15
gnomefreakyres=76814:15
gnomefreakand does your card/monitor support that res?14:15
tungwait a minute14:16
gnomefreakgenii: eh this is easy work14:16
tung# Usplash configuration file14:16
tungxres=128014:16
tungyres=102414:16
JackWinterhiya, how do i get konqueror to play music on myspace? i've got flash installed, and working on youtube14:17
gnomefreaktung: please change it to use same as mine. you will need sudo or kdesu to edit it14:17
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gnomefreaktung: than restart after saving changes and let me know if it worked (it should)14:18
tungcan you explain why i have to change the resolution14:18
tunggnomefreak14:18
baudthiefok, you're all going to hell. X/KDM will no longer start, and I'm forced to IRC via bitchX :P14:19
gnomefreaktung: its not your screen res you are changing its the usplash res you are changing, its due to new colors that they are using with usplash14:19
tungthanks14:19
gnomefreakbaudthief: what video card? and what drivers do you have installed?14:19
baudthiefgnomefreak: nVidia 7600GS, installed as suggested using restricted manager. Disabling was fine, I reboot, and re-enabled the driver as suggested. It installed, I reboot, then BAM! no more X14:20
gnomefreakbaudthief: please pastebin your /var/log/xorg.0.log14:20
geniiback14:20
gnomefreakbaudthief: there has to be errors and im not so sure 7600 is bug free yet14:20
baudthiefI have no idea how to do that without a desktop lol - I dont know if I should even attempt it using lynx14:20
bw__hello where can i deactivate that my vsftpd server doesnt start anymore when i start my system?14:21
gnomefreakok baudthief cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log and tell me wha tthe errors are they will be the ones with the E next to them14:21
baudthiefgnomefreak: It was working before lol. Now I have no desktop effects, no spamfilter and worse yet... NO DESKTOP!14:21
baudthiefalright, 1 sec, thanks for helping out14:22
gnomefreakbaudthief: easy enough to fix for now until we get it working ;)14:22
* gnomefreak has this strange feeling you are using or have used the nvidia drivers from their website14:22
gnomefreakor used envy14:22
bw__ hello where can i deactivate that my vsftpd server doesnt start anymore when i start my system?14:23
geniibw__: Is there an entry in /etc/default  which says vsftpd?14:23
gnomefreakbut still 7600 wasnt ever well known for working all that great14:23
bw__one minute14:23
bw__seems that the file is empty14:23
gnomefreakbrb smoke14:24
bw__no its a directory no ther is no vsftpd file14:24
geniibw__: does /etc/default/vsftpd  exist, rather14:25
bw__no14:25
bw__ doesnt exist14:25
geniibw__: You don't want to uninstall it, just to make it not run?14:25
baudthiefgnomefreak: I did use those drivers before heh, since the drivers from the repositry crashed and burned a bit like now. I couldnt get much useful information from that logfile you requested, so I uploaded it via ftp here: http://www.horizons-edge.com.au/Xorg.0.txt14:26
bw__but it exists in /etc/init.d14:26
geniibw__: Yes, you can make the startup file there non-executable and then it won't run.14:26
bw__na i just want to start and stop it by myself and not during system start14:26
baudthiefgnomefreak: Using the shell this much reminds me of days when you'd spend all night on the internet and only get to see two women :P14:26
bw__but when i want to start it i have to make it exec again?14:27
geniibw__: That would be the fastest/dirty way, yes14:27
bw__but thats circuitous14:28
bw__is it because all files in etc/init.d are executed during system start?14:29
geniibw__: It may have an atry in kmenu..system settings..Advanced tab..System Services14:30
genii*entry14:30
JackWinterwhere do i go for konqueror help in kubuntu?14:30
geniibw__: Yes, all the entries in /etc/init.d are to  normally be executed when system starts up14:30
bw__yes there is an entry i just deactivate it thx14:31
gnomefreakbaudthief: i have a feeling about something (with nvidia drivers from envy/nvidia.com you have to rebuild for ever kernel update14:33
gnomefreakbaudthief: from what i see nvidia drivers are not installed at all14:34
baudthiefwell... I just tried installing nvidia drivers from the website, it just did the same thing as its doing now... It recompiled also14:34
geniican swap nvidia to nv for the moment14:34
genii(to get operational)14:35
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gnomefreakbaudthief: make sure xorg.conf is ok you might want to edit that file and set drivers to vesa for now so you get gui14:36
BaudThiefXgnomefreak: One step ahead heh, I replaced all "nvidia" with "nv", and am now in X14:36
gnomefreakBaudThiefX: that works too14:36
BaudThiefXkeeping my other nick on BitchX in shell just in case ;p14:36
BaudThiefXAny idea how i'd fix this mess?14:37
gnomefreakuse that for now i will sign in from windows when i get a chance to help more, start with using the uninstall option from nvidia script14:37
bw__does someone know how to see on a vsftpd server e.g how many people are on it and e.g. how much bandwith they use and a few other things??14:37
gnomefreaki have a few ideas ;)14:37
gnomefreakbut im in middle of cooking atm14:37
BaudThiefXhaha alright - it's 1.30am here, so I'm sort of in the middle of sleeping ;p14:37
jthomasAnyone able to egt KMediaFactory to function with a slideshow?  I always get errors at 99% when encoding to audio to ac314:39
geniiJackWinter: Inside konqueror there is a simple tutorial/help. Go to Help..Konqueror introduction (on top menu selections) then in the Konqueror pane there is a link called "An Introduction to Konqueror" which you can click. it gioves an pverview and some tips, etc14:39
geniiBleh typos14:39
bw__does someone know how to see on a vsftpd server e.g how many people are on it and e.g. how much bandwith they use and a few other things??14:40
VulcanRidrOne of the minor irritants about Kubuntu (I've been running it since Feisty) is that KDE doesn't seem to remember whats running or which desktop it was running on. In Debian, I can shut down X, and when I restart, it will put my terminal windows on desktop 1, my browser on desktop 2, and so forth. Kubuntu doesn't do this, and in fact, half the time doesn't seem to remember all of what I had running in the last session. Is there a fix for this?14:43
JackWintergenii: i know konqueror pretty well, have been using it for a while as my main browser.  have a problem with the flashplayer in myspace though?14:44
geniiJackWinter: Ah, OK :) About that issue i have no immediate ideas14:46
geniibw__: There seems to be a (fedora-centric) post about monitoring vsftpd here: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-88255.html14:47
geniibw__: At the last post is a workable method14:47
JackWintergenii: it works fine in firefox, but i really like konqueror & would like to use it for everything.  normally i wouldn't frequent myspace, but since i'm a musician ;-)14:47
geniiJackWinter: At this time i'm not sure there is a flash plugin for konq14:48
Arelishow do i get kickoff in kubuntu? or is there another KDE menu replacement?14:48
geniiPerhaps gnash is kio compliant, but i do not know14:48
bazhangkbfx is nice Arelis14:48
JackWintergenii: i installed konqueror-nsplugins and the flashplayer.  works in youtube.  don't think it is a ubuntu problem because i had the same on opensuse14:49
geniiJackWinter: Perhaps try: sudo apt-get install konqueror-plugin-gnash14:50
JackWintergenii: maybe i'll try that.14:51
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geniiIt could be a user-agent thing, especially as it's myspace (MS)14:53
hydrogen!kickoff14:53
WaltzingAlong!info squid14:53
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233114:54
ubotusquid: Internet object cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.14-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 627 kB, installed size 1580 kB14:54
geniiJackWinter: Maybe for kicks change the Browser Identification to Firefox 1.5.x or MS IE 5.x14:57
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NorgurHi14:58
jthomasanyone have issues with FFMPEG in Gutsy?  Every program which depends on it seems to be broken.14:59
bazhangjthomas: what problems you having?15:02
jthomasKMediaFactory and QDVDAuthor both crash when using FFMPEG for audio, even if I don't have audio in the project15:03
jthomasKDEnlive doesn't export properly15:03
jthomastop of my head, thats all I've got.15:04
WM15121957hi all15:06
hydrogenxauth:  error in locking authority file /home/kde-devel/.Xauthority <-- wut?15:07
bazhangjthomas: lots of issues with kmediafactory and ffmpeg/imagemagick reported linux wide, some workarounds apparently at ubuntuforums.org15:11
jthomashmmm15:11
jthomasok thanks15:11
bazhangnot sure about qdvd though--will look a bit more15:11
WM15121957hallo, ich möchte meine kubuntu dvd die ich auf die platte kopiert habe, als paaketquelle anmelden, sodass ich bei änderungen nicht immer die dvd einlegen muss, bin für jede hilfe dankbar!15:12
jthomasi'll dig more for them then.  i wish they'd just release fixed packages and newer packages/releases for *buntu rather than the updates-only like we have now.  Thanks.15:12
bazhangcheers15:12
jthomasbazhang: i have to leave for a while, don't sweat it too much unless you're bored.  thanks again.  i'll be back in a few hours probably.15:12
bazhangjthomas: I want to know too--those look like way cool apps I didn't know about--thanks!15:13
jthomas;)15:13
DaSkreechWait I missed cool? What happened?15:14
bazhanghaha15:14
bazhangkmediafactory and qdvdauthor and ffmpeg screwing up--that's all15:14
DaSkreech!info qdvdauthor15:15
ubotuqdvdauthor: GUI frontend for dvdauthor and other related tools. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.0~rc1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3694 kB, installed size 7620 kB15:15
DaSkreechDuh :)15:15
DaSkreech!dvdauthor15:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvdauthor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:15
* DaSkreech laughs15:15
DaSkreech!info dvdauthor15:15
ubotudvdauthor: create DVD-Video file system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.14-1build1 (gutsy), package size 155 kB, installed size 392 kB15:15
WM15121957danke,  nicht alle auf einmal, einer hätte gereicht15:16
DaSkreech!de15:16
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de15:16
DaSkreechWait15:16
* genii hands BluesKaj a large coffee15:19
BluesKajhiya genii, thx :)15:19
geniiBluesKaj: :)15:20
WaltzingAlong!info devede15:20
ubotudevede: program to create video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.13-0.0 (gutsy), package size 741 kB, installed size 1700 kB15:20
* DaSkreech tops up genii with some of that high grade stuff15:21
geniiDaSkreech: Thanks, I need it today15:21
geniijet fuel15:21
tobi_hi15:23
tobi_kann mir jemand bei einem Wlan Stick Problem helfen??15:23
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TheTobihuhu15:24
BluesKajhmm, tried installing the recommended ati driver following the wiki guide at :http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_8.42.3_Driver_Manually   ..however fglrxinfo now gives me this error : fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ... there's a subset instruction guide for 64bit users (which i used)  how to fix this ?15:24
TheTobiis this an English Channel??15:25
BluesKajI hope so :)15:25
TheTobii don't know15:26
BluesKaj!se | TheTobi15:26
ubotuTheTobi: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se15:26
BluesKajdansk, svensk , norsk  ?15:27
DaSkreechthat's Swedish ?15:27
BluesKajno don't think so15:27
geniiBluesKaj: I had similar error, I just made a symlink to the mesa libGL in same dir (I think name is libGL.so)15:27
BluesKajcould be dutch15:27
geniigerman15:28
icewatermanhow can i make gcc 4.2 the default compiler?15:28
genii!de15:28
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de15:28
JackWintergenii: i tried changing the identification, didn't help.  gonna go to #kde & see if they can help. thanks for your time15:28
geniiJackWinter: OK. Sorry not to have resolved the issue15:29
DaSkreechgenii: It's german?15:31
geniiDaSkreech: Sure looks like it to me helfen=help kan=can    etc15:32
RurouniJonesaye, it is german15:34
icewatermangenii: it is german15:34
RurouniJonesDutch has iemand, not jemand15:34
icewatermanRurouniJones: also i do not speak dutch :)15:34
DaSkreechHa ha :)15:34
DaSkreechMight want to pipe it to him then15:34
DaSkreechassuming that it is a him15:34
icewatermanhm, seems he already left for #kubuntu-de15:35
geniiDaSkreech: Yes, he changed nicks then took off already15:35
icewatermanwhat the heck does gcc need localization support for?15:38
DaSkreechError messages?15:39
abcdHello, after clicking on a folder "Can't find MIME type application/octet-stream" error appears. When I click OK folder is opened with Konqueror. I think it happened after I added a new file association in Konqueror settings, then i removed this association, but the error still appears. Anyone could help?15:42
robin_is Strigi safe to use?15:44
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bazhangArelis: sure15:45
mikelimaas long as you do not use konqueror...15:46
Arelisbazhang: is it as good as tracker?15:46
bazhangArelis: tracker? not sure what you mean15:46
Arelisthe search utility used in GNOME, in ubuntu15:46
ArelisGNOME tracker15:46
Arelisa little like beagle15:47
* Jucato is not sure he would recommend strigi in kde3..15:47
DaSkreechabcd: Maybe put back the setting you deleted?15:47
ArelisJucato: why not?15:49
JucatoArelis: there have been reports of strigi eating CPU and battery at times15:49
Jucatoand afaik, it's not as polished as the version of strigi actively developed on KDE415:50
Arelishow do i set Dolphin to be the default file manager?15:53
ArelisJucato: and okay, guess i will not install it, then15:53
abcdDaSkreech: The error appeared even before deleting the setting. It started when I created new file association.15:53
Jucato!d3lphin | Arelis15:53
ubotuArelis: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.15:53
JucatoArelis: just do it in reverse15:53
DaSkreechabcd: Which file association ?15:53
arash_Hi, I thought I want to permanently (re)install Kubuntu on a computer, on it I would like to have a virtual machine of windows XP (I don't intend to use it alone), what should I think on before installing anything?, what guides are there?, what important keywords should I know about?15:55
bbeckDoes anyone know how to get rid of the drop shadow for kicker when running compiz?15:56
scheater5_arash_: that process should be relatively simple.15:57
stdinbbeck: it's a compiz bug, nothing you can do15:57
abcdDaSkretch: .rmvb  - I created this file association. The problem seems to be similar to this one:  http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=38318&pid=288076&mode=threaded&start=#entry28807615:57
arash_scheater5_: heh :), sounds good, but I still got many questions unanswered, like must I install Windows XP seperately first?15:57
scheater5_Arash_; all you need to be sure of is that a) your computer can handle running a virtual machine.  It's more or less running two computers concurrently and can be RAM and processor intensive15:58
scheater5_arash_: and b) that you have a large enough harddrive for a virtual disk.  Most virtual machines default way of doing things is to create a file which will simulate a drive.15:58
arash_scheater5_: 512MB, 3GHz, Is that good/bad, maybe I should consider having Windows 2000 instead if it is lighter?15:59
scheater5_arash_: while you can run Windows from a separate partition or harddrive in a virtual machine, it is not necessary to have an addition install.  All will take place on your (k)ubuntu partition15:59
abcdDaSkretch: I've paste a bit odd link. This one is more useful: http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=38318&pid=288034&mode=threaded&start=#entry28803415:59
WaltzingAlongarash_: once you get xp in a vm just turn off the pokey gui effects like fade16:00
stdinyou just install kubuntu, then in there you can install one of the virtualization software products (like VMWare or VirtualBox) then install windows inside that software16:00
scheater5_arash_: nice processor, but you might want to consider a ram upgrade for virtualization - half a gig may not cut it, and upgrades are cheap16:00
stdinwindows eats ram like a hungry hungry hippo16:01
WaltzingAlongright going from 512mb ram to a gig or two would help a lot more than going from a 1ghz cpu to 2 or 316:02
scheater5_arash_: I would somewhat unofficially recommend this: install kubuntu as you normally do.  Make sure there are at least 4 GB of free space on the drive after installation.16:02
arash_scheater5_: yea, I'll consider it :), also tahnks stdin and waltzingALong, so I can concern about installing a virtual machine after I finished my installation of Kubuntu, but should I have NTFS partitions avaible or anything?16:02
DaSkreech!tab | abcd16:02
ubotuabcd: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.16:02
scheater5_arash_: then install Virtualbox (or VMware if you're so inclined) via apt-get or synaptic, and it should be relatively self-evident how to proceed from there16:03
arash_I have 160 GB space, I guess I can have at least 100 GB for media, right?16:03
stdinarash_: no, just do a normal install, the software will make a file on the disk which will act as a virtual harddrive (which then gets formatted)16:03
WaltzingAlongarash_: no need. it is virtual. for example vmware will put a file on your ext3/reiserfs filesystem which vmware treats as the hd for windows. in that file windows uses it as ntfs16:03
arash_VMWare or Virtualbox, is anyone of them better integreted in KDE?16:04
hydrogenwilton2216:05
hydrogentT16:05
scheater5_arash_: neither one are particularly well integrated - but both of them are decently so.  As I understand it, Vmware is gratis, but not libre - so I am inclined towards VirtualBox16:05
WaltzingAlongarash_: virtualbox has a free/opensource edition16:05
stdinarash_: well virtual box will be, vmware uses the GTK interface (that's gnome's) but VirtualBox uses Qt (that's KDE's)16:05
DaSkreechIs there an association for octet-stream ?16:06
WaltzingAlong!info qemu16:06
ubotuqemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0-2ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 4013 kB, installed size 10792 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm armeb armel s390 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)16:06
arash_Well, seems like VirtualBox is the way to go :)16:06
Jucatovirtualbox's open source edition has less feaatures of course :)16:06
abcdDaSkretch: Solution from the mandriva forum helped, but thanks for interest.16:06
arash_Ok, I check their websites16:06
scheater5_I dunno that I'd recommend qemu to someone who's never done a virtual machine before - last time I used it, there was no gui I could find to create the virtual drive.16:06
DaSkreechabcd: What was it?16:07
Jucato!info qtemu | scheater5_16:07
ubotuscheater5_: qtemu: graphical user interface for QEMU. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1 (gutsy), package size 568 kB, installed size 960 kB16:07
ristohi16:08
abcdDaSkretch: I removed octet-stream.desktop file from "/home/abcd/.kde/share/mimelnk/application" directory.16:08
scheater5_Jucato: ah, I see.  Is it installed be default when you apt-get or aptitude qemu?  Because if it's not, looking for a front end is not exactly user friendly.16:08
WaltzingAlongscheater5_: qtemu is not a dependency of qemu16:09
Jucatoscheater5_: you install it separately16:09
Jucatobut vice versa16:09
stdinscheater5_: you can find it by typing in "qemu" into adept...16:09
WaltzingAlongscheater5_: so installing qtemu would install qemu as well16:09
scheater5_I'm not saying I would find it beyond me - but just that it is perhaps not as friendly to someone who has never used virtualization than VirtualBox...but I suppose that's neither here nor there16:10
stdinqemu is from the age before "virtualization" was a common word16:11
scheater5_I see.16:12
arash_Ok, So I just have to get a normal XP CD and I'm on my way?16:12
stdinarash_: yep, just install windows as normal (but in a virtual machine)16:13
scheater5_arash_:  yup yup.  After installing your virtualization program of choice, you'll see options to create a new virtual machine (which is, I believe, the exact words VirtualBox uses)16:13
Jucato(although qemu isn't technically a virtualization app afaik)16:13
arash_Thanks alot :)16:13
lietu_any ideas why initially my dualhead setup works fine(in KDM login screen), but when I log in, the other screen dies? this is on kubuntu 7.10, radeon x300, oss "ati" driver and xrandr16:13
ristowhat program is used for opening rar files ?16:14
WaltzingAlong!rar | risto16:14
uboturisto: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free16:14
DaSkreechWhat is qemu?16:16
TimS!dolphin16:16
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.16:16
TimSDaSkreech: Its a emulator for running different operating systems in linux16:16
TimS!dolphinfix16:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dolphinfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:16
ArelisIs it safe to install KDE 4 to test it out, and then remove it, without causing any trouble in KDE 3 or my system?16:17
TimSArelis: I doubt it, you could use the KDE4 LIve CD though16:17
stdinArelis: the kde4 package do not interfere with kde316:17
stdinit's 150% safe16:17
scheater5_I'd like to know how that works as well - after installing kde4, how do you log into it?  Is it integrated into the KDM like choosing between Gnome and KDE?16:18
stdin*cough*16:18
DaSkreechTimS: How is an emulator different from a virtual machine?16:18
stdin!kde416:18
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php16:18
Arelisstdin: does it interfere with any other part of the system?16:18
ristoany help with installing java jdk, if i use package manager then it breaks the install and i don't know why ?16:18
DaSkreechArelis: Yes the KDE4 packages are seperate from the KDE316:19
stdinArelis: nope, not at all16:19
DaSkreechArelis: though wait a few days for the new ones to come ouot they are much nicer16:19
Arelisstdin: it won't break -ANYTHING-?16:19
stdinArelis: no a thing16:19
TimSDaSkreech: Its the same thing really16:19
ArelisDaSkreech: new ones?16:19
DaSkreechTimS: Ah ok Jucato just said it's not really a virtual machine. Just wanted to see waht it was classified as16:19
stdinArelis: it installs to /usr/lib/kde4 way out of the way of the normal kde install in /usr16:20
DaSkreechArelis: They have new snapshots of KDE4 every two weeks leading up to the release16:20
stephanHi, I'm having some problems with my cdrom drive.  I installed kubuntu 7.10 today, and it worked fine, but now it doesn't detect my CD's.16:20
Arelisstdin: and, can i remove it easily once installed via Synaptic?16:21
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Arelisor should i do it via aptitude?16:21
stdinArelis: synaptic or adept or apt-get or aptitude, any16:21
Arelisstdin: kde4base?16:21
Arelis!info kde416:22
ubotuPackage kde4 does not exist in gutsy16:22
Arelis!info kde4base16:22
stdinyou can wget the debs and dpkg -i them if you want16:22
ubotukde4base: core applications for KDE 4 testing. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.94.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 38384 kB, installed size 110060 kB16:22
Arelisstdin: kde4base?16:22
Arelisshould i install that one?16:22
scheater5_Speaking of which, not to confuse the convo, but why exactly is it that apt-get seems to be the standard, when aptitude seems more powerful?  Is there some danger in aptitude?16:22
stdinArelis: best practice is to "sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev kdebase-workspace" that gets all the packages, also read http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php16:22
WaltzingAlongscheater5_: follow the instructions for installing kde4beta3, make the files needed for full desktop session www.kubuntu.org16:22
* WaltzingAlong is building kde4svn just now16:23
Arelisstdin: -dev packages are libraries, right?16:23
trappistArelis: headers and libraries, mostly16:23
Arelistrappist: used to compile?16:24
trappistArelis: mostly :)16:24
stdinArelis: well in the betas it's not quite, you really do need them to run kde416:24
Arelisinstalling16:24
waylandbillanyone know if you use a gpl library in a gpl program you develop, do all libraries you might want to use have to be gpl'd as well?16:24
Arelishmm, no, takes too long, and don't want to ruin my install16:24
DaSkreechscheater5_: dpkg is the standard just hat apt-get is older16:25
Arelisanother question: I installed kde-core instead of kubuntu-desktop (which means, only the base of KDE). What apps should i get with it?16:25
trappistwaylandbill: if you want to link to the libraries, I believe the answer is yes16:25
trappistwaylandbill: unless you do your linking at runtime (I think)16:25
waylandbilltrappist: okay16:26
wathekhello all I've a problem I've a Cups Shared Printer on my Server and when I try to install it on my computer when I try to print a test page I get this error printer "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed"16:26
Arelisstdin: Another question: I installed kde-core instead of kubuntu-desktop (which means, only the base of KDE). What apps should i get with it?16:28
DaSkreechArelis: the apps that come with KDE16:29
Xacarithany one know anything about this      socket.gaierror: (-5, 'No address associated with hostname')16:29
ArelisDaSkreech: yeah, but i installed kde-core so that's no applications16:29
DaSkreechah kde-core Yeah I was thinking kde16:29
WaltzingAlongArelis: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core16:29
stephanHey, can someone help me please?  I just installed kubuntu 7.10, and everything went well, but now my CD rom drive doesn't detect my cd's anymore.  Is there some patch I could download for this?16:30
ArelisWaltzingAlong: Yes but my question was what apps i should install after that16:30
WaltzingAlongArelis: the ones you want16:30
ArelisWaltzingAlong: where can i find a list?16:31
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WaltzingAlongArelis: adept manager16:31
ArelisWaltzingAlong: i have synaptic16:31
WaltzingAlongArelis: synaptic16:31
Areliswhat should i do in synaptic16:32
Arelis?16:32
DaSkreechAdept is better for that stuff16:32
ArelisDaSkreech: it certainly is not. i have lots of problems with adept16:32
DaSkreech you can just grab the debtags for KDE and filter out all none KDE apps16:32
DaSkreechI don't know how you do that easily with Synaptic16:32
ArelisDaSkreech: you select "KDE applications" in the list that's in front of your nose :P16:32
DaSkreechOk :)16:33
DaSkreechwell then use synaptic then :)16:33
DaSkreechDoes it have XFCE as well?16:33
Xacarithah well16:34
stdinArelis: kde-core is just the core of kde, not much there16:39
trappistI would just sudo aptitude install kde16:40
trappistapt-cache depends kde to see what that'll grab (it's a bunch of other metapackages)16:41
TimSstdin: Do you use dolphin?16:41
stdinTimS: no, I use yakuake16:42
DaSkreechtrappist: is there a way to see waht packages depend on this package?16:42
DaSkreechrdepends or something ?16:42
WaltzingAlong!info kde | all of kde; http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core see here for more on kde/kubuntu-desktop/kde-core16:42
TimS:P no file manager at all16:42
ubotuall of kde; http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core see here for more on kde/kubuntu-desktop/kde-core: kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (gutsy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB16:42
icataany bulgarians in here?16:42
stdinTimS: yeah, yakuake + bash or zsh is my file manager16:43
TimSpah16:43
TimSI keeep getting the unable to save bookmarks error16:44
stdinyou ran dolphin with kdesu16:44
stdinTimS: "sudo chown -R $(whoami): ~/.kde" is the fix16:45
TimSAh =]16:45
TimSThat should be a factoid, me thinks16:45
DaSkreech!dolphfix16:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dolphfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:46
stdinwell it's a bug with kdesudo16:46
DaSkreechdrat :)16:46
stdinsorta16:46
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stdinit's actually a bug with sudo, or the implementation with kdesudo, but now I'm confusing myself16:46
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trappistDaSkreech: yes, rdepends16:46
DaSkreechHa ha good guess16:47
trappist:)16:47
Areliswhat is a good program for taking notes in KDE somewhat like tomboy? (and please, no basket, it's development is going very badly)16:47
DaSkreech!bg16:47
ubotuопитайте #ubuntu-bg за български потребители . try #ubuntu-bg for bulgarian users, and please idle there patiently16:47
DaSkreech!bg | io_io_8716:47
ubotuio_io_87: please see above16:47
trappistwee, I can see all those bulgarian characters with my shiny new utf-8 support :)16:48
X314DaSkreech: ironicly "please see above" is in english.16:48
DaSkreechX314: Well the person asked in English I think they can sort it out :)16:49
X314DaSkreech: true, but still ;)16:49
DaSkreechX314: Otherwise I would have redirected it to them16:49
X314DaSkreech: and they would probably have noticed if something was written in their language. :P16:51
BluesKajheh, ok followed the install ATI 8.42 driver tutorial , fglrx gears renders 50 % more fps than the prvious driver (impressive) , but now Google Earth catches signal 11 = crash on launch ... I'm searching the forums for a fix but if anyone has a suggestion pls post it here16:52
DaSkreechX314: not always. When you come in for support you are probably frantically trying to fix a prblem16:53
DaSkreechX314: you tend to look away a lot unless someone pings you16:53
Areliswhat is a good program for taking notes in KDE somewhat like tomboy? (and please, no basket, it's development is going very badly)16:53
trappistArelis: basket!16:53
trappistArelis: I never heard of tomboy, but... have a look at basket16:54
Dr_willisArelis,  you could just run tomboy.16:54
stdinknotes (1)           - Sticky notes application for KDE16:54
trappisteven has kontact integration16:54
DaSkreechArelis: How is it going badly?16:54
X314DaSkreech: that is also true.. ah well, there are always solutions. so its not really a problem :)16:54
ArelisDaSkreech: read the site16:54
DaSkreechArelis: I have a new team has taken over16:54
trappistArelis: oops sorry, I got so stoked about basked I didn't even read the end of your question16:55
DaSkreechThat should be I have.16:55
DaSkreechperiod A new team has taken over16:55
trappist*basket16:55
DaSkreech they are silent on the website but read the Dev forums and there are rumblings there16:55
TimSWhats wrong with Basket, I love it16:55
Dr_willis!info basket16:55
ubotubasket: a multi-purpose note-taking application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2build2.1 (gutsy), package size 4854 kB, installed size 7540 kB16:55
TimS #basket-devel exists :P16:55
trappistTimS: Arelis is concerned because the original author has left the project16:56
TimSHe has :o16:56
trappistyep16:56
TimSIts one of the best KDE programs]16:56
ArelisAlso because it won't be ported to KDE 4 - i think. It says that on the site16:56
trappistit's pretty dang nice16:56
TimSDamn16:56
Dr_willisI imagine theres a lot of things that wont get ported to kde416:56
trappistArelis: the author won't be porting it, but it's open source and popular.  it'll likely be ported.16:57
arash_a question about the virtual machine, should I have a firewall on it? or will it not be granted internet access at all? I thought of using VirtualBox16:57
DaSkreechArelis: Power of poen source :)16:57
Arelistrappist: speaking about that: can you still run KDE 3 apps in kde 4?16:57
stdinarash_: just because it's running in software doesn't mean the OS will be more secure, just that it won't harm your "real" OS16:57
TimSYeah16:57
TimSCorse Arelis :P16:58
trappistArelis: don't know, I only ran kde4 for about 5 minutes :)16:58
TimSYou can, you can run GNOME apps in KDE, why wouldnt you beable to run KDE3 ones16:58
arash_stdin: I was more thinking of that if I have a not 100 procent legal OS, I dont want it to have internet access.16:58
trappistTimS: you can't run kde2 apps in kde3 afaik16:59
DaSkreecharash_: just disable the network cards16:59
TimStrappist: If the right libraries are installed you can16:59
trappistunless you can figure out how to run multiple versions of qt16:59
trappistand make all that stuff work16:59
TimSqt is backwards compatible isnt it?16:59
DaSkreechkde2 apps sucked anyway :)17:00
stdinarash_: if you have a license then it's legal, nothing in the MS EULA about not running in a VM (not in the XP EULA).   (you will probably have a license on your PC, so it's technically legal to have a CD for it, but that's off topic for here)17:00
JohnFluxstdin: didn't they change the EULA license in the latest service pack for XP  something17:01
JohnFluxor something17:01
trappistDaSkreech: you wouldn't have said that back in the day, when kde3 was brand new and not all your favorite kde2 apps had been ported17:01
stdinJohnFlux: they did for vista, but too late for XP (and you'd have to install that service pack to agree to it ;)17:02
TimSFrom #KDE:17:02
TimS[17:00] <TimS> Can you run KDE3 apps, like basKet in KDE4?17:02
TimS[17:02] <smileaf> TimS: Yes17:02
DaSkreechI just don't have fond memories of KDE2 I guess17:02
stdinKDE2 was ok for it's time17:03
stdinbetter than gnome anyway17:03
TimS[17:02] <smileaf> TimS: Likewise you can run terminal apps, gnome apps, etc.. in KDE3 or KDE4, and you can run kde3 or kde4 apps in gnome and any other windowing manager.17:03
TimS=]17:03
stdinTimS: as long as you have the libs installed, you can run anything17:03
TimSThats what I thought ::P17:04
DaSkreechstdin: you could say that about KDE*17:04
TimS:P17:04
combiniocan't change my user avathar while loggin' cuz admin denied that. how can i change it? ...i'm the admin :D17:04
trappistcombinio: that's a lame and long-standing bug.  I forget the solution :)17:05
combiniohave u had any similar problems with that ??17:05
combiniotrappist: crap :/17:05
combiniotrappist: but did u change ? ;>17:05
trappistcombinio: look it up on launchpad, I'm sure it's been reported and someone has probably mentioned a workaround17:05
trappistcombinio: a long time ago, yeah17:05
combiniotrappist: ok, will try to find the solution. thx ;)17:06
WaltzingAlongits*17:06
DaSkreechUsers have avatars?17:07
DaSkreechWhere?17:07
WaltzingAlongcombinio: kmenu/system settings/advanced/login manager/users and change the user image source17:07
TimSDaSkreech: Its on the login page if you are in 7.10 or have a user list selected17:07
DaSkreechoh that17:07
WaltzingAlongDaSkreech: ^^ or each can set one in the 'about me' in systemsettings17:07
DaSkreechyeah I changed mine and forgot17:07
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DaSkreechNot nearly as fun when you never login17:08
combinioWaltzingAlong: trying that.... wait a sec...17:08
TimS:P17:08
DaSkreech!ca17:08
ubotuCanadian Ubuntu users can be found in #ubuntu-ca17:08
DaSkreechha ha:)17:08
geniiDaSkreech: Forget it. it's always empty, thats why i hang out here17:09
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DaSkreechYou hang out here cause we give you coffee :)17:09
combinioWaltzingAlong: haha! it looks it works! :D:D17:09
combinioWaltzingAlong: thaaaaanks a lot, bro! ;)17:10
WaltzingAlongcombinio: cheers17:10
WaltzingAlongperhaps the default setting there for new installs could be switched to admin,user or user,admin rather than admin only17:10
WaltzingAlong!us17:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about us - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:10
WaltzingAlonghm no channel for some of those other americans? ;D17:11
stdin!loco17:11
ubotuInformation on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams17:11
floydhey all.17:13
ScorpKinghy floyd17:13
floyddoes anyone know, if there will be official KDE 4 RC1 packages?17:14
WaltzingAlongfloyd: greetings17:14
stdinthere will17:14
floydk17:14
floydso i`ve to wait ^^17:14
floydthx17:14
stdinyou want it more if you have to wait, that's why we make you :p17:15
floydlol17:16
DaSkreech!za17:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about za - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:21
DaSkreechHeh17:21
grul!se17:22
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se17:22
charlesg3I"m having trouble getting desktop effects / compiz working in gutsy - I have an nvidia card and it's using the nvidia drivers17:22
Tm_Tcharlesg3: try #compiz-fusion17:23
kallehey guys what should I do when my adept managers database is locked? It says also that another process is using the packaging system database...17:23
WaltzingAlong!aptfix | kalle17:24
ubotukalle: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »17:24
WaltzingAlongits*17:24
WaltzingAlongKubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | charlesg3; check the channel and wiki17:24
WaltzingAlongwhen inserting removable usb media no longer does kde pop up the window that something has been inserted although lsusb shows the device.17:25
WaltzingAlong!alsa17:26
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP317:26
cap601If I have a CD in the drive on startup it is automatically mounted by root and so must be unmounted similarly.  Can I stop this happening?17:31
mmschneicap601: sure you can, as to how, I am not sure. Does it automount as root if you put it in the drive after you are booted up and logged in?17:34
cap601It doesn't17:35
mmschneiok17:35
mmschneiwell lets try this17:35
mmschneiwell17:35
mmschneihow well versed in linux are you?17:35
cap601Not that good17:35
cap601I've been using it for a month or two now17:36
ristohow to installl java jdk ?17:36
mmschneiok, thats fine we can still see what can do17:36
stdin!java | risto17:36
uboturisto: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.17:36
mmschneicap601: still there?17:39
cap601Yep17:40
mmschneiok, well lets give something a try here. And I'll warn you right off that I am not an expert in Ubuntu at all, I have just changed to itmself, but I have used linux for years.17:40
mmschneiEach distro does somethings differently so I might be a little bit off here, but I should be able to help you out.17:41
mmschneiAnd what I am trying will not break your system, but there is a small chance that I might disable automounting all together.17:41
ristohow to installl java jdk ?17:41
mmschneiwhich will be fixable, but just thought I'd warn you upfront17:41
cap601That shouldn't be a problem17:41
mmschneiristo: is not in synaptic?17:41
mmschneicap601: well then lets see what we can do. =)17:42
mmschneicap601: do you know what pressing ctrl+alt+f1 does?17:42
mmschneidont hit it yet17:42
mmschnei!17:42
ristocant install with synaptic17:43
ivan_hi, pipla17:43
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mmschneiristo: can you find a .deb file for it online?17:44
DaSkreech!java | risto17:44
uboturisto: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.17:44
ristohm k ill go look there17:44
cap601@mmschnei - I'm back17:46
HoaxHola !!17:47
mmschneicap601: k,17:48
mmschneiDo you know what pressing ctrl+alt+f1 does? (don't do it yet!)17:48
ristowhere i can paste my stuff ?17:49
FunnyLookinHatTTY1   : P17:49
rytislogin17:49
rytishello17:49
mmschneiFunnyLookinHat:  DING DING DING That is correct!17:49
FunnyLookinHathooray...  i get a prize.   lol17:49
FunnyLookinHatCan my prize be...   KDE4??!17:49
mmschneiFunnyLookinHat: its a cookie, but you can call it KDE4 if you want.17:50
mmschneiFunnyLookinHat: KDE4 comes out next month or was slated to, we're all waiting patiently...17:50
cap601@mmschnei - Not entirely sure17:50
murphy_who is speaking?17:50
Tm_Tcap601: what isn't sure?17:50
DaSkreechFunnyLookinHat: You get A CLI KDE4 !! to run on tty117:51
murphy_sorry, it is my first time to use this irc!17:51
mmschneicap601: ok, well its called TTY1, ctrl+alt+f2 = TTY2, up through F617:51
DaSkreechmurphy_: Right now you are :)17:51
DaSkreech!paste | risto17:51
uboturisto: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:51
cap601OK17:51
FunnyLookinHatDaSkreech, LOL17:51
FunnyLookinHatCLI KDE4 FTW!17:52
mmschneicap601: your current GUI, X, runs on TTY7, with linux you can run multiples on the same machine, logging in with different users and/or different environmetns (kde vs. gnome....)17:52
DaSkreechReally all I want is a CLI IM and I"m ok17:52
FunnyLookinHatI don't know about you guys, but I've been waiting since this time last year....17:52
DaSkreech(with webcam support) :)17:52
cap601Yep17:52
murphy_~~17:52
mmschneiFunnyLookinHat: I've been waiting far longer than that.17:52
BluesKajthis error prolly indicates a symlink is required , but i'm not vwery well versed in setting them up : /usr/lib32/googleearth/googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory17:53
* DaSkreech is waiting for KDE6.1 The Vista Edition17:53
ristogot this kind of error when try to install java http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45276/17:53
mmschneicap601: ok well what I am going to have you do is log in as yoru user on TTY1, and then "kill" your X environment to log you off there as well as stop the things it is running....17:53
mmschneiwait17:54
BluesKajMS-Linux , gawd17:54
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mmschneicap601: sorry, thats a dumb idea, let me rethink this through... sorry, you said it does mount properly as your user when you insert it after boot?17:54
cap601Yes17:54
mmschneihrmm, ok.17:55
mmschneiwhat sort of media are you talking about, a CD?17:55
cap601Yes17:56
mmschneiis it currently mounted as root?17:56
cap601Yes17:56
mmschneiok, one second, let me pop one in here to see how its handled on my machine17:57
DaSkreechristo: That's circular17:57
ristohm how i get more info ?17:58
mmschneicap601: odd mines not automounting, one second, sorry about the delay.17:59
DaSkreechristo: 64 bit? or 32 Bit install?18:00
FunnyLookinHatSo does anyone else here think that Kubuntu is a conspiracy to make KDE look bad?  It gets so much less dev time than Ubuntu that it's just sad...18:01
SSJ_GZFunnyLookinHat: A conspiracy by whom?18:01
FunnyLookinHatCanonical!18:01
FunnyLookinHat;)18:01
risto32 bit18:02
SSJ_GZFunnyLookinHat: No, otherwise they wouldn't have hired any KDE developers at all.18:02
ristoi don't really know whats wrong, why i can't install java18:02
FunnyLookinHatIt wouldn't be a conspiracy unless they made it at least look like an effort sillies...  Don't you ever watch the X-Files?   : )18:02
mmschneiFunnyLookinHat: nah, Gnome is just "easier" to use the first time around and its more for those who just need things to work out of the box. Hence why its the default DE.18:02
FunnyLookinHatBut seriously, I hope KDE4 brings a ton of developers to Kubuntu  : )18:02
DaSkreechFunnyLookinHat: How would that work?18:03
FunnyLookinHatmmschnei, I guess... except that KDE resembles windows a heck of a lot more so it's easier to transition users to from that environment.18:03
mmschneiFunnyLookinHat: I carefuly avoided the windows analogy and you went there anyways =P18:03
FunnyLookinHatDaSkreech, the entire world of linux users is waiting for KDE4 to see if they will switch to it from Gnome...  when they do (and when some of those are dev people) they will inevitably want to help dev Kubuntu18:04
FunnyLookinHatmmschnei, well it makes sense   : )18:04
mmschneicap601: didn't forget about you, still working here =)18:04
FunnyLookinHatSorry, this is horribly off topic.18:04
Tm_Term18:04
DaSkreechFunnyLookinHat: Even though openSUSE has a better reputation of support KDE?18:04
mmschneiFunnyLookinHat: key is for first time users, not just from windows, but to the PC in general.18:04
FunnyLookinHatmmschnei, Ahhh I see what you are saying.  And yes, studies have been done and found that Gnome is inextricably easy for new computer users.  Which is definitely cool.   : )18:05
DaSkreechristo: You want the JDK right?18:05
FunnyLookinHatDaSkreech, yes, but everyone and their kids hate Suse's package management system (when compared to the debian standard)18:05
DaSkreechHa ha :)18:05
ristohm i found a link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/12232518:06
ristoi have same problem18:06
DaSkreech!info sun-java6-jdk18:06
ubotusun-java6-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-03-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 9286 kB, installed size 31304 kB18:06
mmschneiFunnyLookinHat: It reallly is nice, I used it for a few years, but in the end, it does what it does really well, but if I want to do something beyond its scope its very rigid, won't allow me to do things differetnly, KDE can be overwhelming in that regard bc you can configure it thousands of different ways. Its really great once you get the hang of thigns and learn how you want to do thigns your way instead of just the way that it18:06
mmschneioperates right out of the box.18:06
mmschneiok folks, trying to helpsomeone else out here and I've broken something in the process.  =\18:07
mmschneiI changed something, not sure what, and now when I insert a CD its not being automounted18:07
mmschneiI think it was when I inserted a blank CD KDE prompted me what I wanted to do, as usual, and I chose do nothing (and set it as the default action). I assumed this was for blank CD's, ever since then non-blank discs are not automounting.18:08
FunnyLookinHatmmschnei,  That's the kind of thing we need more devs for  :)18:08
mmschneiFunnyLookinHat: for what?18:08
jjj543k3I experimented with another distrobution on my system. My original kubuntu partitions are exactly where they were hoewver the new distrobution wrote over grub. I have a kubuntu live cd. Is there and easy way to restore the grub in my kubuntu root partition to the mbr ?18:11
DaSkreech!grub18:12
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto18:12
DaSkreechjjj543k3: grub is grub btw18:12
mmschneijjj543k3: yes, but I don't know how off hand, google should be able to help you out, sorry trying to help others out right now too.18:12
DaSkreechjjj543k3: You can have it point at both so you choose at start up18:12
DaSkreechI'm surprised the other Distro didn't set that up18:12
jjj543k3it was fedore18:13
jjj543k3which uses grub, but it doesn't have a normal editable menu .list, any way ille go some googling thanks18:13
mmschneicap601: still waiting on me?18:13
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lg188how to make a phyton install ???18:14
mmschneijjj543k3: the link posted above titled "lost grub after a windows install" or something should take care of you18:14
lg188python*18:14
zarathHi. When I minimize all active windows by clicking on the Desktop icon on the menu bar and then I launch a single new program, all the windows taht were hidden become active at once again. Is there anyway to prevent this from happening? (i.e. I would like to run a single program and keep all other windows minimized). Using Kubuntu Dapper 6.10.18:15
lg188zarath:  i don't know that problem ...18:16
mmschneizarath: not sure how to do it, but that is the expected behavior, the idea being that if you want access to an icon on your desktop you can click that one button to get there instead of minimizing lots of windows18:17
zarathlg188, say, I have three windows open. Then I minimize them all at the same time by clicking on the Desktop icon. Then I press alt-space to launch katapult, but at this point all three windows have become active (i.e. maximized) again.18:17
lg188WaltzingAlong how to install phyton i have the files but i don't know to install them ...18:17
Tm_Tmmmmh, should I compile KDE4 or not18:17
mmschneibtw, what does katapult do?18:17
mmschneiTm_T: go for it!18:17
zarathmmschnei, I see. Is there no way to keep the windows minimized after I have clicked on that icon?18:17
Tm_Tmmschnei: erm?18:17
lg188zarath:  i use also dapper 6.10 mby take a other desktop ..18:18
mmschneiTm_T: have you compiled KDE before?18:18
zarathmmschnei, katapult lets you launch programs by typing their name.18:18
lg188maybe*18:18
Tm_Tmmschnei: not many times18:18
mmschneizarath: does it run in the background or is it just a one time deal like pressing alt+f2?18:18
mmschneiTm_T: well then go for it, just wanted to make sure you had some idea what you were getting into time wise before you starte18:19
mmschneid18:19
zarathmmschnei, more like a one time deal. e.g. alt+f2, or even unzipping a file that i had saved on the desktop.18:19
Tm_Tmmschnei: why should I go for it? :-P18:19
mmschneiTm_T: b/c I would love to hear user impressions of it, so far I have only read impressions from devs (well mainly)18:20
amnesiac_hello folks18:20
Tm_Tmmschnei: erm, and you thought you would get user impression from me?18:20
mmschneiTm_T: and at this point in time its ready for user input on it. There are some bugs that devs'll never find, they don't always do the same thing that users do.18:20
mmschneiTm_T: at least somewhat =P18:21
Tm_Tmmschnei: whois me ;)18:21
mmschneiwhois Tm_T18:21
mmschneierr wrong win18:21
Tm_Tmeh18:21
mmschneilol18:21
mmschneiyeah, lol, point taken18:22
mmschnei=P18:22
mmschneiIsn't the beta out soon? I haven't read up on it in a while.18:22
lg188hello don't get off-topic18:23
Tm_Tlg188: meh18:23
lg188Tm_T: can you help me ...18:24
Tm_Tlg188: what your problem is?18:25
genii!info phyton18:25
ubotuPackage phyton does not exist in gutsy18:25
geniihmm18:25
lg188Tm_T: i need python i have the file18:25
WaltzingAlong!info python18:25
icewatermandid anyone try compiling i386 code on amd64 ubuntu with the normal x86_64 gcc?18:25
ubotupython: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 137 kB, installed size 600 kB18:25
geniiAh, python18:25
lg188files *18:25
Tm_Tlg188: sudo apt-get install python18:25
WaltzingAlong!info python (dapper)18:26
ubotupython: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 532 kB18:26
lg188i dont have internet conection with that computer18:26
Tm_Tlg188: ok, then, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb18:26
lg188i will trie with that...18:26
manoria#colmar18:36
ristohttp://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=263789#26378918:37
AzzcoAmarok sound lags a bit for me.. What could it be?18:39
* genii sips a coffee18:39
ardchoillehi genii18:40
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geniiHiya ardchoille18:40
BluesKajgenii, usr/lib32/googleearth/googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory18:40
geniiBluesKaj: did you makea symlink to libGL.so in the dir it is in? (I think something like /usr/lib)18:41
BluesKajoops , that's the error when trying to run google-earth from the shell18:42
geniieg: ln -s /usr/lib/libGL.so /usr/lib/libGL.so.118:42
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geniiBluesKaj: ls there first, it may be the file you need to link to is libGL.so.1.2 or similar instead of just mesa libGL.so18:43
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BluesKajgenii, is that the cmnd you just posted above for a symlink ?18:44
Rukusanyone know how to enable ATI Control in Gutsy Gibbons for a xpress 200m?18:45
Dr_willishmm.. cant say that ive tried that Rukus  the 200m just 'barely' works for me under linux. :) it works..but i just get the basics.18:46
Dr_willis!find ati18:46
ubotuFound: binutils-static, foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, foomatic-db-gutenprint, foomatic-db-hpijs (and 147 others)18:46
Dr_willisof course it aint much of a video card. It does play video and does doom/quake ok.18:46
Dr_williswhats the name of the ati control program? I just see aticonfig18:48
geniibluesk     bleh no wonder tab completion doesn't work, he left now18:49
AzzcoSo no one has any idea why sound in Amarok could lag?18:49
lg188 no it not work...18:49
Dr_willisHow can you tell its lagging?18:52
Dr_willisor you mean the sound is lagging in relation to the video?18:53
WaltzingAlongor that the sound cuts out now and again18:53
Tm_TDr_willis: Amarok doesn't play video18:53
Dr_willisTm_T,  thats why im confused. :)18:53
AzzcoDr_willis: The music stops playing for about 1 millie seconds or so sometimes..18:54
Dr_willisi would check hdparm to be sure dma is enabled on the hd. for a start18:55
lg188 no it's not working...19:01
lg188"sudo chmod +x ./thefile" is it right ? ??19:13
ubunturosok, so I have to give sun-java5-jdk, jre to my friend as .deb files. Packages.ubuntu.com list dependencies, so shall I download it too and that won't cause problems, right?19:14
ubunturoshowever, each package has its own set of dependencies, so, do I download those as well?19:15
stdinubunturos: it's better to get them to do "sudo apt-get --print-uris install sun-java5-jdk" to print a list of all the deps they need, then get those on a storage media for them19:16
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TimSAdept has crashed, I dont have permision to kill its proces, what can I do?19:17
stdinuse sudo19:17
ubunturosstdin: the biggest problem, is I'm on Windows now. Is there some other way on windows?19:17
TimSwhat the command to kill a process?19:18
stdin!aptfix19:18
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »19:18
TimSIts process 1009519:18
lg188???? wtf it is ubuntu & kubuntu19:18
ardchoillelg188: Read the topic19:18
ubunturosstdin: and sudo apt-get -d (download) sun-java5-jdk wouldn't work?19:18
TimSah19:18
stdinubunturos: when they do that command it just prints the list of URLs to get, so they can put that on a floppy or something19:18
ubunturosstdin: hmm19:19
stdinubunturos: the --print-uris option also tells you what to save the file as (as apt will look for certain file names that aren't always the same as the download file names19:19
stdin*)19:19
lg188ardchoille: i know but some are talking about windows .. and i hate almost ...19:19
ubunturoslg188: I'll log off soon19:20
stdinlg188: they aren't asking for windows support, they want to know how to get some debs for Kubuntu, ergo Kubuntu support19:20
Tm_T!wtf | lg18819:20
ubotulg188: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.19:21
lg188how to install python  ??? on Kubuntu19:21
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lg188Tm_T: i dint say any hurting words to anybody19:21
Tm_Tlg188: you did say "wtf" and that is not appropriate19:22
jpatricklg188: it already is19:22
stdinlg188: acronyms like "wtf" are just as bad, and python is already installed19:22
Tm_Tstdin: thank you :)19:22
ubunturosstdin: one final question, I need to get those packages for feisty fawn and I use dapper drake19:22
stdinubunturos: as long as you get the output from the command ran from their computer it will be ok19:23
lg188okk i get it ...i forgotten taht i said that i'm sorry ..(i have a light version of Alzheimer )19:23
geniistdin: Also can use an alternate sources.list for feisty, d/l only into a temp /var/cache/apt/archives then transfer it19:24
jhutchins!easysources19:26
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic19:26
stdinubunturos: I guess you can do "sudo apt-get clean" then make a feisty sources.list (say /etc/apt/sources.list.d/feisty.list) and then apt-get -d the package, then copy /var/cache/apt/archives over, but I'm not sure if that will work (never tried), it may do19:26
jhutchinsAlso can go directly to the repository and download it.19:26
lg188but a python editor ....19:27
stdinjust make sure you remove the sources after and run apt-get update again before you use apt/adept19:27
stdinlg188: kate does python highlighting19:27
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lg188stdin: ohw dint know that19:28
stdinkate does everything19:28
lg188?? kubuntu is at all  platforms the best :)19:29
stdinhighlights C, C++, python, perl, C#, java, .sh ...etc19:29
lg188stdin: looks a multi one19:29
ChousukeI don't understand one thing about kate though19:30
stdinK Advanced Text Editor == KATE19:30
ceewill there be packages available for kde4-rc1 in gutsy?19:30
stdincee: there will be, in gutsy-backports19:30
Chousukeif you have multiple files open, the file viewer colours them completely randomly :P19:30
ChousukeDoes anyone know why?19:30
ceeare there packages in hurdy now?19:30
lg188i will try to use it ... i wil be back if i don get started19:30
stdinnot randomly, depends on what order you opened them and edit them19:30
Chousukewell, it looks random19:31
ChousukeI haven't figured out what the purpose is, so if it's a usability feature, it fails at being obvious. :/19:31
ardchoilleChousuke: It colours them according to use, the more you view a file, the brighter the colour. You can turn that off, tho19:31
ChousukeI see.19:32
geniieg:sudo mkdir /tmp/apt-tmp;sudo mount --bind /tmp/apt-tmp /var/cache/apt/archives;sudo apt-get -c=/etc/feisty.list -d install <somename>;sudo umount /var/cache/apt/archives;cp /tmp/apt-tmp <somewhere>19:34
geniiwhere feisty.list is alternate sources.list for feisty19:34
geniiSorry for lag, work called me away19:34
ardchoillegenii: wow, that's pretty cool19:35
kopytoJe tu někdo česky mluvící?19:35
stdin!cz19:35
ubotuČeské uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.19:35
geniiardchoille: thanks, i had to figure it out for myself :)19:35
kopytoděkuji19:36
ardchoilleWhat is the "s" in drwxrwsr-x  ?19:39
ScorpKingsticky bit19:40
ScorpKing!permissions19:40
ardchoilleAh, so I can write files but only delete files I have written?19:40
ubotuAn explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview19:40
ardchoilleScorpKing: ty19:40
ScorpKingyw19:41
stdinardchoille: actually that's sguid, not sticky bit19:43
ScorpKingah. i see. ty stdin19:44
DM|hmm Kubuntu cd works off of 128 mb of ram lol nice19:44
ardchoillestdin: /var/mail is set to drwxrwsr-x  2 root mail  is this normal?19:46
geniiDM|: Well, at least 192 would be preferable since 128 makes it run like a dog19:46
geniibah, work calls. AFK19:46
DM|im just testing some stuff in this old machine19:47
waylandbillardchoille: looks reasonable19:47
stdinardchoille: well I have it as drwxrwxrwt, but that's because I added the o+w19:47
stdinardchoille: and the sticky19:47
ardchoilleok19:47
slow-motionhi19:47
stdinardchoille: ahh, the default is drwxrwsr-t19:48
stdinat lease I think :p19:48
waylandbillI'm not sure I'd set o+w, but that's just me. stdin knows what to do. :)19:48
ramiproblems installing tar.gz file.19:48
stdinwaylandbill: it's needed for "Unix Movemail"19:49
stdinso mail apps can read mail to root@mybox19:49
stdinlike from cron19:49
waylandbillstdin: I was sure there was a reasoning.19:49
stdinthe +t makes it safer than just o+w19:50
ramieverytime i try ./configure in terminal bash says "file or folder does not exist" what should i do?19:50
stdinwhere items inside the directory can be renamed or deleted only by the item's owner, the directory's owner, or the superuser19:50
waylandbillstdin: right. making it follow the creator. I understand.19:51
stdinrami: what are you trying to install?19:51
ramikfreeflight19:51
waylandbillrami: usually source packages have an INSTALL or README file. did they help any?19:51
ardchoillestdin: Ok, well I haven't mess with perms on that dir. I added myself to the mail group so I could get system mail using kmail but sometimes kmail can't lock it.19:51
raminever tried the INSTALL file. hold on....19:52
stdinardchoille: that's what my permissions are for, 1777 (i think is the octal)19:52
ardchoilleok, thank you stdin19:52
trprim sure the instructions are in INSTALL ;)19:52
* trpr eyes kfreeflight. Is this in repos? this looks awesome19:53
waylandbillif it doesn't have configure, INSTALL will probably mention running automake and/or autoconf19:53
vbgunzdoes this crash X or restart it for any reason (found in /var/log/messages)? Nov 20 07:37:10 box syslogd 1.4.1#21ubuntu3: restart.19:53
ardchoilletrpr: I looked in the repos, didn't see it19:53
ardchoilletrpr: apt-cache search freeflight19:53
stdinvbgunz: them messages says that syslog was restarted, nothing else19:54
stdinhappens at reboot or an upgrade (of syslog)19:54
vbgunzstdin: you sure, cause at that exact time, I am logged out of X :(19:54
vbgunzX is crashing or something on me. I think it has something to do with VirtualBox but nothing in the VirtualBox logs are helping :(19:55
lg188ok it works but the problem i don't know a thing about python scripts ...19:56
chakaneed some help to let hostap run with WPA19:56
chakaany help19:56
stdinvbgunz: I have "Nov 20 07:38:49 goku syslogd 1.4.1#21ubuntu3: restart." in my messages, my X has been running for 9 days19:56
gandalfhi does anybody know if there will be kubuntu packages for kde4 rc1?19:57
stdinyep19:57
ramithis it what happened when i ran configure (too big to paste, but it didnt work)19:58
vbgunzstdin: my X restarted/crashed just 1 hour ago. I see nothing in messages about it except for the syslogd line. I searched for syslogd and its confusing. no definitive answer on it...19:58
stdinvbgunz: the X log will be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old19:59
rami so now i dont know what to do....19:59
dev_noobHow do I change desktop resolution in Kubuntu 7.10?19:59
trprhm. some packages i fetched w/ apt-get can't be authenticated. what's this mean? the authentication server can't be reached, the packages don't match, which?19:59
adi_.20:00
adi_hello everybody20:00
ardchoille!fixres | dev_noob20:00
ubotudev_noob: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto20:00
stdintopic Official Kubuntu support channel | Download Gutsy http://kubuntu.org/download.php | Upgrade instructions: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please | KDE 4.0 RC1 packages will be available in Gutsy | Want to help? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingKubuntu20:00
=== stdin changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support channel | Download Gutsy http://kubuntu.org/download.php | Upgrade instructions: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please | KDE 4.0 RC1 packages will be available in Gutsy | Want to help? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingKubuntu
gandalfhi does anybody know if there will be kubuntu packages for kde4 rc1?20:00
stephanSorry, just wondering, how does one open the restricted driver managment window?20:00
adi_could anybody help me with a web video player that knows mms and/or rtsp please?20:00
ardchoilletrpr: It's possible you haven't added the appropriate keys. Which repo?20:01
ramiit just wont work.20:01
trprardchoille: official mirror. its only a few packages that can't auth20:01
stdinstephan: system settings > advanced > restricted drivers20:01
JohnFluxadi_: mplayer ?20:01
ardchoilletrpr: Ah, ok20:01
adi_JohnFlux: does not work20:01
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trprardchoille: i tried apt-get install flightgear .. but it doesn't look like i can proceed without oking the suspect packages :\20:02
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stdintrpr: it happens sometimes, usually apt-get update fixes it20:03
kelmezzinonow?20:03
gandalfadi_: do you know where i could get an mms example file for a test?20:04
trprstdin: indeed. an apt-get update resolved it :)20:04
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ramiconfigure shows up a bunch of noäs20:04
ramino's*20:04
ardchoilleWould there be an problem in adding "sudo apt-get update" to a daily cronjob?20:04
fdovingardchoille: it's already there. in /etc/cron.daily/apt20:05
ardchoillefdoving: Ah, ok20:05
ardchoillerami: Have you installed build-essential ?20:05
stdinrami: and if it's a kde app, you'll probably need kde-devel or at least kdelibs4-dev20:06
ramiits trying to install flightgear instead20:07
trpryou need flightgear. kfreeflight is just a frontend20:08
ramidamn it!20:08
lg188bey20:10
vbgunzis there a really cool log manager application or something? X keeps crashing on me and I believe it is due to VirtualBox **but** i cannot pinpoint it... if any kind of hints are showing up in the logs, I have no idea where it is :(20:11
Yorokobivbgunz, have you looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log?20:12
stdinksystemlog displays some of them20:12
stdinKMenu > System -> KSystemLog20:13
vbgunz11/20/2007 01:17:01 PMbox/USR/SBIN/CRON[7206](root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)20:13
vbgunz11/20/2007 01:32:16 PMboxkdm[5073]X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly20:13
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vbgunzthis is the exact time X crashes on me... I think it has something to do with VirtualBox as the virtualbox log timestamp is exactly 01:17 ... could that crash X or restart it?20:14
vbgunzi swear if the reason X is crashing is found in xorg.log I don't see anything at all about it in there :(20:15
vbgunzvery frustrating :(20:15
acelervbgunz: are you starts kubuntu from virtualbox?20:15
stdintheoretically any app that used X can crash it20:15
vbgunzaceler: the host is Kubuntu 7.10 and the guest is Windows XP20:16
acelerAha.20:16
acelerAnd why do you think that it is a VirtualBox problem?20:17
vbgunzI first noticed this problem occurred on Feisty... something about VirtualBox I strongly believe is crashing or restarting X... I just cannot prove it.20:17
acelerWell, I use VB for a long time20:17
acelerNo problems20:17
vbgunzaceler: this never happens ever... It only happens if I have VirtualBox running20:17
acelerAh!20:18
acelerMaybe it overheat your processor?20:18
acelerOr a vidoecard?20:18
vbgunzaceler: maybe, but how do I find out? it happens randomly and looking through logs i do not see anything that says "hey here is a clue as to why X is crashing/restarting"... I really don't see anything that helps me here :(20:19
acelerOf course not, because X Server is crashing, not shutting down.20:19
acelerAnd X Server will not able to write down something due a crash... :)_20:20
vbgunzit is a mystery why X is goes crazy but I do notice it only happens with VirtualBox... anyhow, in #vbox, I had an actual developer looking through the VirtualBox log and messages. he did not find anything that stuck out either :*(20:20
acelerI have an idea20:20
acelerCheck your ulimit20:20
acelerMaybe X Server eats a lot of memory20:20
vbgunzhow do I check ulimit?20:20
acelerulimit -a20:20
aceler:)20:21
vbgunzanything in there I should look at specifically?20:21
vbgunz:)20:21
vbgunzI see a lot of unlimiteds20:21
acelerulimit -v and maybe ulimit -t20:21
vbgunzboth are unlimited20:22
aceler-l and -m?20:22
vbgunzl = 32 and m is unlimited20:22
acelerwell.20:22
acelerthe idea was wrong :)20:22
vbgunzI can paste it?20:23
vbgunzon a pastebin of couse20:23
acelerno, you don't need it20:23
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acelerBTW, what videocard do you have?20:23
vbgunznvidia geforce 560020:24
acelerno idea20:24
vbgunz:(20:26
vbgunzI see this in xorg.log but not in xorg.conf warningThe directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.20:28
vbgunzhow can I fix that?20:28
aceleryou don't need to fix that20:29
acelerIt's only a warning.20:29
vbgunzyes a warning20:29
vbgunzI only see warnings in X11 logs20:30
vbgunzI mean nothing more serious20:30
geniiNo worries. although if you want cyrillic fonts for some reason, sudo apt-get install xfonts-cyrillic20:30
jack111hi20:31
ardchoillehi jack11120:32
jack111on gutsy gibbon i got the porblem that opera if i install it via the static deb download from the opera site or via ap-get..it doenst work, it runs only with 100%cpu load in top, but no opera browser window appears20:32
jack111thats a sentence sorry20:33
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ardchoillejack111: Are you on Gutsy?20:33
jack111yes ardchoille20:34
ardchoillejack111: Are you using the "partner" repo to install opera?20:34
jack111i used the one from the default settings...i check, didnt change anything,20:35
ardchoillejack111: afaik, opera isn't in the official repos other than the partner repo. I think you or someone had to change the sources to get opera.20:36
ardchoilleAnyway, I installed it from the partner repo and it works great. You can enable the partner repo20:36
vbgunzgenii: what are cyrillic fonts ?20:36
ardchoille!ru20:37
ubotuПожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke20:37
ardchoillevbgunz: ^^ Those20:37
vbgunzheh20:37
vbgunzI can see them just fine20:37
jack111ardchoille: what do i have to fill in to enable that?20:37
vbgunzshould I install the ones you said? will that fix the warning?20:37
geniivbgunz: If you don't know you're not likely to ever need them LOL20:37
vbgunzheh, just trying to address some warnings I guess :)20:38
ardchoillejack111: the partner repo is already in the gutsy sources, it's just commended out. you can open the sources.list file in a text editor with "kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and uncomment the partner repo there. But, make sure you run "sudo apt-get update" to update your sources20:38
geniivbgunz: It's not essential to install them for X to work properly. It is only giving a mild warning about them. But installing that package should eliminate even that.20:39
Beowulfneed help booting up20:39
vbgunzgenii: ok one last thing then. will those fonts show up in my fonts list?20:39
BeowulfGot huge problem, comp wont boot up.20:40
geniivbgunz: Yup20:40
ardchoilleBeowulf: You need to be more specific. Errors? If so, what are they? What does the system do? Black screen?20:40
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Gannondorfardchoille: It says this: "init: rc-default main process (4105) terminated with status 12720:41
Gannondorf!status20:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about status - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:41
vbgunzwell am going to restart X. brb20:41
jack111ardchoille: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m2777ae61 that is what i get when i do opera& in the konsole, the opera browser window wont open, but i get 100% cpu load20:42
GannondorfI need to uninstall compiz20:42
Gannondorffrom a grub terminal20:43
acelerKDE 4.0 RC1 is out20:44
Tm_Taceler: yes, platform20:44
ardchoillejack111: I'm afraid that doesn't help me much. Do you know which repo provided the opera package? Or how you installed it?20:45
jack111ardchoille:  i tried via apt-get and also via the static deb download from the opera site20:47
MinatakuKDE 4.0-RC1 is out despite the fact that it's clearly alpha quality, as heard from opinions of users of this channel20:49
MinatakuThey're really trying to make KDE seem like Windows, aren't they?20:49
Tm_TMinataku: erm20:49
MinatakuThey've even adopted the shoddy programming and releasing of not-ready products :P20:49
Tm_Treleasing?20:49
Tm_TRC != release20:49
sonic__Minataku: release early release often.  They are a project not a business.20:50
jack111ardchoille: what do you mean by partner? universe? where exactly uncomment?20:50
ardchoillejack111: Can you pastebin your sources.list file? I'll try and help you with it.20:51
ardchoille!pastebin20:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:51
sonic__Minataku: Microsoft demands money, KDE merely asks for input and contribution/bug fixes if possible. Thus pre-alpha releases better invove the community with the process. makes it more transparent.20:53
MinatakuTm_T: Analog Microsoft product quality, where first releases are betas20:53
* Tm_T slaps Minataku 20:53
MinatakuRC is the final step before the final release20:53
MinatakuIt stands for "Release Candidate"20:53
Tecumsehgood evening20:54
sonic__Minataku: again. KDE is not a product. your understanding of how community software is created is severly lacking...20:54
Tm_TMinataku: it's RC of platform, not apps20:54
Tm_TMinataku: apps are still beta20:54
acelerWarning! Holy war detected!20:54
MinatakuAh!20:54
GannondorfIt says this: "init: rc-default main process (4105) terminated with status 127"20:54
Tm_Taceler: untrue20:54
MinatakuTm_T: That clears things up, then20:55
Tecumsehcan someone help me set the mixer to the correct item? Currently the panel applet for the mixer does the volume control for the headphone's. It'd like to have it manage the master volume...20:55
Tm_TMinataku: aye20:55
MinatakuYou must admit, it's a tad confusing20:55
MinatakuMy apologies20:55
Minatakusonic__: If they're using a professional-style release system, it should be fairly well complete to that version by RC20:55
MinatakuBut the clarification I recieved indicates that only part of KDE is at RC-level20:56
GannondorfAre you guys going to argue or help people?!20:56
MinatakuTypically a whole project is advanced at once20:56
MinatakuArgue.20:56
Minatakuj/k20:56
Op3rhow can you make kubuntu run faster?20:56
Gannondorfthen help me20:56
MinatakuWhat says that, Gannondorf?20:56
GannondorfThe booting process20:57
MinatakuWell, nevermind, obviously it's init20:57
GannondorfI try and boot and it says that20:57
Gannondorfthen it stops20:57
MinatakuHm20:57
MinatakuDid you do anything recently that may have caused this?20:57
GannondorfIt always says a random number20:57
Gannondorfthe last thing I did was try and compile compiz20:57
MinatakuYeah, the PID of rc-default will be different every time20:57
MinatakuDid it compile and install?20:58
jack111http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m18eb01c0 ardchoille20:58
Gannondorfno20:58
Gannondorfthe farthest I got was the make part20:58
MinatakuWhat did you do before that, then?20:58
GannondorfThe only things I have access to are the things in Grub20:58
Gannondorfhmmm20:58
GannondorfNothing harmful20:58
MinatakuSounds like neither of those SHOULD give init a fit20:58
Gannondorfinstalled a wifi radar program20:58
ardchoillejack111: I see the problem20:59
MinatakuDid anything you installed recently set itself to start with the machine?20:59
GannondorfIt always stops at either network interface setup or keymap setup20:59
MinatakuHrm20:59
Gannondorfwifi radar program did20:59
Gannondorfactually20:59
Gannondorfno20:59
Gannondorfit didnt20:59
MinatakuHm20:59
Gannondorfyup20:59
MinatakuBecause if it did, that's your problem20:59
Gannondorfstopepd at configuring network interfaces20:59
ardchoillejack111: You've used automatix. The best thing I can recommend to you now is to back up your personal files and re-install kubuntu.. and never touch automatix again21:00
Gannondorf!21:00
ardchoille!automatix | jack11121:00
ubotujack111: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »21:00
GannondorfLast thing i installed was apache221:00
Gannondorfand it's dependencies21:00
MinatakuThat, I believe, definitely starts pieces of itself with the system21:00
GannondorfSo, how do I remove apache2 in the Grub terminal?21:00
Gannondorf!info apache221:01
MinatakuYou can't21:01
Gannondorfthen what do I do?21:01
MinatakuYou'll have to boot into a LiveCD in rescue mode or somesuch21:01
ubotuapache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.4-3build1 (gutsy), package size 40 kB, installed size 92 kB21:01
MinatakuHm21:01
Minataku!init21:01
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto21:01
MinatakuNot quite21:01
jack111ardchoille: i have automatix, but it doesnt show opera-....21:02
MinatakuAre the network cards removeable?21:02
GannondorfIs there a way to disable apache2 from starting?21:02
Gannondorfyes21:02
GannondorfI removed it21:02
ardchoillejack111: That doesn't matter, automatix is known to cause problems which are difficult to track down and solve. IMHO, you're just going to have more and more problems due to automatix.21:02
MinatakuTry rebooting again now21:02
jack111ardchoille: or you mean automatix messed my sources.lst up?21:02
Gannondorfit's a simple linksys card21:02
MinatakuWith the card removed21:03
GannondorfI removed it a while ago21:03
MinatakuHm21:03
MinatakuIs that when booting stopped working?21:03
jack111ardchoille: ok, so should i mark the automatix line and try again?21:03
Gannondorfno21:03
MinatakuOr was this before that?21:03
MinatakuHrm21:03
ardchoillejack111: I mean automatix mess up your system. And, your sources.list has Edgy repos, not a good thing to mix repos like that.21:03
GannondorfI tried it once with the card21:03
ardchoillejack111: The damage done by automatix is already done, if it were me, I wouldn't trust the system any longer.. I'd reinstall.21:04
MinatakuSorry, I'm kinda stumped... Apache MAY be causing it, but it doesn't seem likely since it crashes out at the network configuration21:04
Gannondorfhmmm21:04
jack111hmm..i just did the upgrade via the aptitude, so where would i get a clean thing?21:04
GannondorfI've been wanting to upgrade to Gutsy anyway21:04
jack111i cannot cos of work21:04
Minatakujack111: Your current installation is bad.21:04
MinatakuYour only viable option is backup and reinstall.21:05
GannondorfHow do i backup?21:05
Minataku!backup21:05
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning21:05
GannondorfI actually want to use gutsy21:05
Gannondorfwould the backups work with that?21:05
MinatakuEr, though you'll have to boot a LiveCD and mount the fs, Gannondorf21:05
Gannondorfnevermind21:05
Gannondorfthere's nothing important on there21:05
MinatakuI was talking to jack111 when I said what his options were21:05
Gannondorfoh21:06
MinatakuHe used one of two "tools" that completely f*ck up *buntu installations21:06
MinatakuAutomatix and Envy << DO NOT USE EITHER OF THESE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES21:06
MurielGodoiHi, I just install pidgin, but I got no event sounds, all others applications sounds works fine. Any ida?21:06
MinatakuMurielGodoi: Check the application configuration21:07
MurielGodoiMinataku: sounds are enabled there. But when I click Test, I can't hear the sound21:07
armandohola21:07
armandohi21:07
MinatakuHm. That's weird.21:07
Gannondorfminataku: what is the fastest mirror for downloading kubuntu 7.10?21:08
MinatakuIs there any other sound configuration besides enabling it?21:08
armandoi have a problem21:08
MurielGodoi!ask21:08
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)21:08
MinatakuGannondorf: Even if I had an answer, it'd be different for you anyway21:08
GannondorfI found it21:08
GannondorfGeorgia tech21:08
armandowhow play mp3 in kubuntu?21:08
MinatakuI usually choose either the main site, or one in Japan21:08
Minataku!mp321:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:08
Gannondorfarmando: amarok if you don't have it, and codecs21:09
Gannondorf!codecs| armando21:09
ubotuarmando: please see above21:09
MinatakuIgnore the crap about using free formats until you're MAKING multimedia21:09
MinatakuIf you're just playing multimedia, you don't have a choice21:09
Minatakus/multimedia/multimedia\ files/g21:10
jhutchinsMinataku: Well, if you're ripping or transcoding it applies.21:10
MinatakuI said that21:10
MinatakuMAKING multimedia files21:10
armandoalgien que able español?21:10
Minataku:P21:10
Minataku!es | armando21:10
ubotuarmando: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.21:10
armandook gracias21:11
MurielGodoiMinataku: I just tried to set a specific sound to Buddy logs on, but however when I click in test I can hear nothing21:11
MinatakuDoes it provide an option for what sound driver to use?21:11
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MurielGodoiMinataku: nope, at least I couldn't find it in preferences21:15
MinatakuHm21:16
MinatakuSorry, I'm out of ideas then :(21:16
MurielGodoiMinataku: Can pidgin trying to use any specific gnome resource?21:17
MinatakuNo idea21:18
MurielGodoiPidgin sounds works for you in kubuntu?21:18
MinatakuI use neither21:21
MinatakuWhich is why I'm out of ideas21:21
Minatakulol21:21
MinatakuSorry X321:21
loguser1can any one tell a good network moniterying app. that thats my the downloading and uploading speed .. (over all of all apps)21:22
loguser1?21:25
blizzzekbye21:25
jhutchins!paste21:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:26
MurielGodoiMinataku: that is okay,  thanks anyway21:26
jhutchinsloguser1: Hang on a sec...21:26
loguser1ok21:26
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Drekkypoyubl ka yû yüoal do ?21:27
tekteenhi all21:27
Drekkypoyubl ka yû yüoal do ?21:28
marcreichelthi there21:28
jhutchinsloguser1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45300/21:28
jhutchins85 lines of bash21:28
marcreicheltis an update for Kubuntu 7.10 available that is not damaged (meaning software updates)?21:28
Drekkypoyubl ka yû yüoal do ?21:29
ardchoilleDrekky: Which language?21:29
inteliwaspdoes anyone know about efi partition tables?21:30
Drekkyno langauge, just my sister21:30
BluesKajhe's in france , ardchoille21:30
ardchoilleAh, ok21:30
BluesKajbut that ain't french21:30
ardchoilleI was gonna say that21:30
jhutchinsNo, that's troll.21:30
BluesKajcroatian or something21:31
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* BluesKaj attempts to install google earth to run in wine21:33
stdindoesn't google earth run native?21:33
inteliwaspit does21:33
* tekteen wonders why BluesKaj does not use the linux version21:33
tekteenIt is in the medibuntu repo21:34
BluesKajthe linux vers won't run on 64bit with the new ati driver21:34
tekteenok21:34
trappistBluesKaj: tried a 32bit chroot?21:35
BluesKajnot my setup at least ..the libgl.so is misplaced21:35
trappistBluesKaj: I had trouble even in the chroot with nvidia drivers, until I installed the nvidia drivers inside the chroot21:35
BluesKajtrappist, how is that done21:35
trappistBluesKaj: there's a debian howto somewhere that works fine for ubuntu, but I haven't done it in a while, and I don't plan to do it again - 32bit for me until I can do 64bit without a chroot21:36
tekteen!32bitchroot21:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 32bitchroot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:36
tekteen!chroot21:36
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box21:36
BluesKajthe drivers are ok fgl_glxgears is great21:36
tekteenBluesKaj: this it what u need21:37
trappistBluesKaj: yeah but fgl_glxgears is prolly 64bit21:37
trappistit probably just needs a 32bit gl lib to link to21:38
acemois the bug that made kde4 beta4 unable to get packaged causing the same for kde4 rc1?21:40
stdinread the topic21:40
jpatrickacemo: nop, rc1 packages in progress21:40
trappistBluesKaj: hey have you tried installing ia32-libs? it seems to install some 32bit gl goodies21:40
acemojpatrick: great \o/21:41
trappistI know the 64bit nvidia driver installer prompts you to install 32bit libs... maybe the ati driver just doesn't ship with those21:42
vit_gracias internet21:43
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ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.21:43
MurielGodoiFor the people who tried 64bit version,  Which are the main difficulties that you found?21:44
trappistMurielGodoi: to use flash and java plugins, wine, certain codecs, etc., you need a 32bit chroot.  I wouldn't recommend it for a desktop machine.21:45
trappistthere are other solutions, but they mostly suck too.21:45
BluesKajtrappist, yeah ia32-libs is installed21:46
intRandomhey, does anyone know if we can expect to see KDE RC1 packages?21:46
stdinintRandom: /topic21:46
MurielGodoitrappist: okay thanks,  about about performance? any difference?21:46
MurielGodois/about about/and about21:47
trappistMurielGodoi: I can't give you a 1:1 comparison.  I haven't tried 64bit and 32bit on the same machine yet.  but my *impression* is that if I'm getting any boost at all from 64bit, it's not worth the hassle.21:47
trappistMurielGodoi: also, quite a few packages have 64bit-specific bugs, that I've spent a lot of time working through21:48
trappistkmail, Eterm, mrxvt, and trac for example21:48
MurielGodoigood.. so i will keep my 32bits version until i have a lot of free time to fight in that issues :) thanks21:49
trappistkmail can't do ntlm auth, Eterm has all kinds of problems, mrxvt won't go transparent, and trac is busted due to a 64bit bug in ... somethingsilver, I forget the package name21:49
BluesKajtrappist, what's the cmnd to use with schroot to install a bin pkg ?21:50
tekteenDoes anyone know how to copy all the files in a VirtualBox image to a directory?21:50
trappistBluesKaj: first you enter the chroot (chroot into it), then it's the same as anything else... sudo apt-get install ...21:50
BluesKajit's abinary21:51
trappistapparently I'm not understanding your question21:53
trappisttekteen: never worked with virtualbox, but with vmware it's possible (with some work) to mount the image similarly to an iso21:53
trappisttekteen: maybe google for "mount virtualbox image" or so21:54
tekteenthanks21:54
tekteenI am giving a talk where I will need to switch between 4 different images and chroot might be better then virtualbox21:55
BluesKajtrappist the app is a .bin file ...all thats required is the ./ "pkgname " where does schroot come in ?21:55
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niko__hi guys21:56
niko__it's a lot of time that i don't came here21:57
bbm4nguys my a friend of mine is having problems installing kubuntu 7.1021:57
niko__kubuntu italian?21:57
tekteenbbm4n: what is the problem?21:57
stdin!it21:57
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!21:57
niko__thnx21:57
bbm4n<tekteen>:his system freezes in fisrt screen21:58
bbm4n<tekteen>: where you must choose installation21:58
bbm4n<tekteen>: mem test e.t.c.21:58
tekteenok21:58
bbm4n<tekteen>: how is that possible?21:59
tekteenthe boot loader21:59
trappistBluesKaj: first you have to set up the chroot, which is basically installing an OS in it.  once that's all done, you'd copy the .bin into the chroot, chroot into it, then probably chmod +x it and ./ it.21:59
tekteenis the keyboard working21:59
tekteen?21:59
bbm4n<tekteen>: wait i'll ask him21:59
bbm4n<tekteen>: yes22:00
* trappist &22:00
tekteenwhat does he mean that it freezes?22:00
bbm4n<tekteen>: when he presses the options nothing happens22:00
tekteenthe disk could have a defect22:01
bbm4n<tekteen>: the cd-rom?22:01
tekteenyep22:01
tekteencan u test it on another machine22:02
bbm4n<tekteen>: i'll ask him22:02
gambixis there some news about the release of kde4 rc1 on kubuntu...?*22:02
ardchoillegambix: An rss feed reader is a great way to get up-to-date news daily: http://dot.kde.org/1195581531/22:04
root_hey, I have a binary that was compiled 32 using Qt.22:04
root_can I run on a machine with kubuntu 64bit?22:04
root_if yes, how?22:04
tekteenroot_: yes22:04
jpatrickroot_: why are you on irc as root??22:04
root_jpatrick: don't bitch me for my security policies :)22:05
tekteenroot_: download the 64 bit version of kubuntu22:05
jpatricksuit yourself22:05
root_tekteen: what do you mean22:05
* tekteen names the root account god on his system22:05
ardchoilleroot_: If you're going to irc as root, many folks won't even bother helping you since it appears you care nothing about your own system.22:05
gambixardchoille: it's not the answer to my ask...22:05
root_# linux32 ./qusbview22:05
root_./qusbview: error while loading shared libraries: libQtGui.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory22:05
tekteenroot_: hold on22:05
root_tekteen: I already have kubuntu6422:06
NeoFaxI am having a problem connecting with a FE to my BE.  MySQL errors saying hostname.local not allowed.  However, I have the BE setup to allow from any host using the % in the privileges.22:06
ardchoillegambix: But, with an rss feed reader, you get the news directly from Ubuntu :)22:06
tekteenok22:06
tekteenroot: I know of a way22:06
tekteen!chroot | root_22:07
uboturoot_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box22:07
root_ok so I nedd a chroot. mh. ok thanks tekteen22:07
root_bye :)22:07
root_thank you very much22:08
tekteenbye22:08
DrakeJustice_props to tekteen22:09
* tekteen thanks his fans :-)22:09
venikOverall performance under 7.10 is definiteeely more sluggish than it used to be, especially while using a browser.  Do other people have the same experience?22:09
venikOverall performance under 7.10 is definiteeely more sluggish than it used to be under 7.04, especially while using a browser.  Do other people have the same experience?22:10
NeoFaxAny MySQL experts?22:10
juacom99i'm not an expert22:11
juacom99but i know mysql22:11
tekteenI only know the basics22:11
juacom99what's thwe problem NeoFax22:11
BluesKajvenik, try disabling IPv6 in your browser22:11
NeoFaxI am having a problem connecting to my server from another PC22:11
juacom99ok22:11
venikI have tried disabling ipv6, but it did not make any difference22:11
juacom99do you use a firewall??22:11
NeoFaxIt states hostname.local not allowed.  However, in the privileges I have allowed %, which manys any host22:12
NeoFaxYes, but this is all behind the firewall22:12
juacom99if you are in other PC is not behind the firewall22:12
bbm4n<tekteen>: my friend says it works on another pc22:13
tekteenok22:13
NeoFaxI am trying to connect 192,168.1.x to 192.168.1.y.  However, DNS automatically changes it to the hostname+.local.22:13
juacom99try addin an exeption for mysql in the firewall22:13
bbm4n<tekteen>: so it is the cd drives problem?22:13
venikI wonder whether they have "upgraded" the network card driver..22:13
tekteenwhat type of keyboard is it?22:13
tekteenit should work22:13
tekteenhave u tested the cdrom22:13
bbm4n<tekteen>: me?22:14
tekteenyep22:14
tekteenu22:14
bbm4n<tekteen>: yes22:14
bbm4n<tekteen>: he says it runs on another pc22:14
tekteenbbm4n: sorry, the cdrom drive22:14
NeoFaxjuacom99: OK, changed the firewall to allow traffic over 3306.  Still same problem.22:15
bbm4n<tekteen>: he asks about the minimum memory this is like 256 for kde is it not?22:15
juacom99mm let me think...22:15
dorkfaceHi all.  Where can I see what drivers I am using for my wired interface?  I've tried using "lspci -vvv" but I could not find anything about them..22:15
tekteenbbm4n: that would not effect this stage of the boot but on a machine like that I would use the alternate install cd22:16
NeoFaxdorkface: Use dmesg | less Then look for the eth0 statement22:17
tekteenbtw it does require that22:17
venikthis is Dell Dimension 4550, with a 1 gb RAM, with an ATI video card and driver22:17
bbm4n<tekteen>: ok22:17
bbm4n<tekteen>: thanks22:18
bbm4n<tekteen>: one point for tekteen!22:18
hlopezHi22:18
BluesKaj!chroot22:18
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box22:18
hlopezAnyone knows how to config eth0 in Mandriva?22:18
* tekteen welcomes the applause22:18
loguser1i just installed trickler , an app. but i cant see it in any menu. how do i run it?22:18
tekteenfrom his fans22:19
NeoFaxhlopez: Do they use NetworkManager?22:19
hlopezNo22:19
loguser1trickle*22:19
NeoFaxOK, then sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces.  Change the settings in this file.22:20
hlopezI just download the last dist, and i Can´t open pppoeconf (like in Kubuntu)22:20
NeoFaxWhat does ifconfig say?22:20
tekteenloguser1: open up the konsole22:21
tekteenloguser1: then see if "trickle" is a command22:21
hlopezufff, i can tell, i'm in Kubuntu right now22:21
loguser1tekteen:  oook22:21
loguser1yes got it. but it doesnt shows me the network usage.22:22
loguser1Usage: trickle [-hvVs] [-d <rate>] [-u <rate>] [-w <length>] [-t <seconds>]22:22
loguser1               [-l <length>] [-n <path>] command ...22:22
loguser1        -h           Help (this)22:22
loguser1        -v           Increase verbosity level22:22
hlopezOk22:22
loguser1        -V           Print trickle version22:22
tekteendoes it a graphical interface22:22
loguser1        -s           Run trickle in standalone mode independent of trickled22:22
loguser1        -d <rate>    Set maximum cumulative download rate to <rate> KB/s22:23
hlopezyes22:23
loguser1        -u <rate>    Set maximum cumulative upload rate to <rate> KB/s22:23
loguser1        -w <length>  Set window length to <length> KB22:23
loguser1        -t <seconds> Set default smoothing time to <seconds> s22:23
loguser1        -l <length>  Set default smoothing length to <length> KB22:23
loguser1        -n <path>    Use trickled socket name <path>22:23
loguser1        -L <ms>      Set latency to <ms> milliseconds22:23
loguser1thats what iam looking for22:23
tekteen!paste | loguser122:23
ubotuloguser1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)22:23
hlopezOk i'll go for it, thanks22:23
loguser1i want an app that shows me the speed of my internet...................22:23
hlopezI have to shutdown mi PC first22:23
NeoFaxjuacom99: Anything?22:23
hlopezbye22:23
tekteenis it a graphical interface22:24
tekteen?22:24
juacom99no :S22:24
hlopezthanks for everything22:24
juacom99i'm lost22:24
juacom99it should let you connect to the other machine :S22:24
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hlopezBye bye Loguser122:24
tekteenI think it is command line only, loguser1:22:25
juacom99are you ion windows or ion linux??22:25
NeoFaxjuacom99: That is what I thought as well.  I will have to try in the MySQL forums or IRC.  Thanks!22:25
NeoFaxI am in windows.  Connecting from Debian to Ubuntu.22:25
juacom99you lost me22:26
juacom99are you in windows or in debian??22:26
loguser1i need a graphical stat shower of my internet speed. and trafic.22:27
tekteenkSysGuard22:27
tekteenloguser1: goto kmenu > system > kSysGuard22:28
loguser1k22:28
tekteenit does not have it22:28
loguser1oh no. thats sys speed. iam talking abt internet spped22:29
tekteensorry, thought it did22:29
loguser1ok22:29
tekteenone sec22:29
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NeoFaxjuacom99: I am in debian22:29
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juacom99ok Mysql is in..??22:30
NeoFaxloguser1: Try Gkrellm, superkaramba(KDE), Gdesklet(GNOME)22:30
NeoFaxOr my favorite conky22:30
tekteenloguser1: I think the cli command ntop does it22:30
MilitantHippieHi, could anyone help me getting my wireless network card working?22:30
tekteenloguser1: I am testing it22:30
loguser1i need graphical22:30
NeoFaxjuacom99: It is on the Kubuntu machine.22:30
loguser1NeoFax:  ok22:30
juacom99ok22:31
NeoFaxloguser1: You will need to go to kde-look.org for superkaramba themes if you choose that one.22:31
juacom99so you alowd mysql port on kubuntu machine??22:31
NeoFaxYes22:32
NeoFaxMy router routes traffic to 192.168.1.y:330622:32
juacom99is relly rear22:32
juacom99*rare22:32
loguser1any other22:34
loguser1?22:34
tekteenloguser: ksysguard does do it22:35
loguser1how22:35
tekteenU need to select it to be viewed22:35
loguser1from where22:35
NeoFaxknemo does as well22:35
tekteengo with Neo Fax's Idea22:36
loguser1k22:37
juacom99NeoFax: tencnicaly the lan connection should be alowd in your router anyway22:37
NeoFaxTrue, but it never hurts22:37
juacom99NeoFax: lol22:38
juacom99why the hell is your pc :S22:38
juacom99doing that :S22:38
loguser1ya.         .  knemo looks good. going to install22:38
NeoFaxNever know.  Could be like /etc/hosts not changing the name correctly.  i.e. comes across the lan as hostname, but translates to hostname+.local at the other end22:39
loguser1NeoFax:  is there a good way to know on which menu is a newly install app present.........................22:41
loguser1i installed knemo . now where to run it. i can find it any where in any menu22:41
NeoFaxloguser1: just run knemo from the CLI22:41
loguser1cli?22:41
NeoFaxIt should be in kcontrol22:41
stdin!cli22:41
loguser1comand line22:42
stdinno ubotu :p22:42
ardchoilleWho broke the bot?22:42
stdinardchoille: netsplit22:42
tekteen!ubotu22:42
ardchoilleah22:42
NeoFaxloguser1: cli=command line interface22:42
tekteenubotu left22:42
stdinseems on or two servers split, and ubotu just would be on one. he's unlucky like they22:43
loguser1loguser1@loguser1-pc1dtop1:~$ knemo22:43
loguser1bash: knemo: command not found22:43
loguser1what now22:44
ardchoilleloguser1: sudo apt-get install knemo22:46
loguser1its already installed22:46
ardchoilleType this in cli: which knemo22:46
ardchoilleloguser1: Ah, it's a kicker applet, you need to add it to kicker to use it22:46
loguser1loguser1@loguser1-pc1dtop1:~$ which knemo22:47
loguser1loguser1@loguser1-pc1dtop1:~$22:47
loguser1ardchoille:  how22:47
loguser1ardchoille:  how22:49
master_ciao22:49
ardchoilleloguser1: Right click the panel, choose Add applet to panel, search for the applet and add it to the panel22:49
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lolsalut22:51
lolje suis nouveau sous kubuntu22:51
neofax99loguser1: Try this:  http://s242.photobucket.com/albums/ff46/neofax/?action=view&current=knemo.png22:51
loguser1well. the applet is not in the list..22:52
neofax99To get there do in KDE Alt+F2.  In the run command type kcontrol.22:52
lollol22:52
neofax99You may need to logout of KDE for it to take22:52
ardchoilleloguser1: type this in cli: apt-cache policy knemo | grep Installed22:53
lolMy name is LOL22:53
ardchoillelol: I cannot begin to tell you how many times you will get hilighted22:54
loguser1k22:54
tekteenlol22:54
ardchoilleloguser1: Did it tell you which version was installed?22:56
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joseihola a todos23:03
joseisoy novato en esto23:03
joseihay mas canales?23:03
stdin!es23:04
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.23:04
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MilitantPotatoHey23:08
MilitantPotatomy wife's PC can see my samba shares aswell as her own, but I can't see our workgroup23:08
ardchoillehi MilitantPotato23:08
fyrmedicWhat is the best way to synchronize my laptop with my desktop?23:09
fyrmedicrsync or something else?23:09
MilitantPotatovia the web?23:10
BluesKajMilitantPotato, depending on yout lans speed and wifes pc speed , it can sometimes take up to 15 secs for the workgroup to show up on konq using smb:/23:10
fyrmedicno local23:10
MilitantPotatoBluesKaj: it's saying Unable to find any workgroups on your local network.  A firewall could be blocking it.23:11
MilitantPotatoWhen I attempt to browse the samba network23:11
eljefe__Anyone read Linux Journal?  There was an article some time ago about making DVDs and it mentioned a good program used to encode video to be DVD-compliant... what was it??23:11
vbgunzanybody play foolbillard in Gutsy? it worked beautifully in Feisty *but* relaunching it for the first time in Gutsy, something is wrong with the display :(23:12
BluesKajwhat are you browsing with, MilitantPotato ?23:12
vbgunzI mean, the graphics shimmer, glitter, vibrate, not sure how to explain it :(23:12
MilitantPotatoDolphin23:13
MilitantPotatoweird, i think it's just not saving the config I entered in KControl23:13
eljefe__or, how can I create a DVD with an mpeg slideshor from Digikam?23:14
BluesKajhmm, never tried dolphin , konq always works with smb23:15
MilitantPotatooops stopped networking :D23:16
* BluesKaj has to study up on chroot , but it seems like a heck of alot of trouble just to get google earth to work on amd64 gutsy23:16
stdinBluesKaj: that was the only way to do flash/java not too long ago23:17
BluesKaj<---- naturally lazy and not too inclined to do it tonite :)23:18
BluesKajstdin, the proprietary 8.42 ATI driver is quite fast vs the old restricted on fgl_ glxgears ...over 50% more fps23:20
stdinI have an intel GPU, it's more than enough for compiz and 3d accelerated stuff and has open drivers </gloat>23:21
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SlimGDoes anyone have links to screenshots etc. for the KDE4 RC1 ?23:23
DragnslcrHeh, that's one of the main reasons I got a Dellbuntu laptop for my girlfriend23:23
BluesKajyeah , I know I should quit griping and get a decent grphx card :)23:23
Dragnslcrkubuntu.org says KDE4 RC1 packages are available23:25
Dragnslcr(in case anyone wants to change the topic)23:25
DragnslcrI saw that and thought "wow, RC1? The final release isn't supposed to be until December"23:26
DragnslcrThen I realized that it's already late November23:26
MilitantPotato.23:27
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MilitantPotato:(23:30
bmk789__do bluetooth headphones work in KDE?23:31
stdin!bluetooth23:31
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup23:31
stdinmaybe23:31
MilitantPotatotest23:33
DragnslcrMilitantPotato- fail23:33
MilitantPotato:(23:33
ardchoillelol23:34
bicareloaded-linHay actividad aqui???23:34
DragnslcrWill the new KDE4 packages eventually (before 8.04) get moved over to the standard repositories, or will the 7.10 packages always be in a special repository that you have to add manually?23:36
acemois it bad if i didnt remove the kdelibs5 before trying to install kde4 rc1?23:40
acemoi cant remove the kdelibs5 now, but cant install kde4 rc1 either..23:41
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acemois it bad if i didnt remove the kdelibs5 before trying to install kde4 rc1?23:53
acemoi cant remove the kdelibs5 now, but cant install kde4 rc1 either..23:53
stdinacemo: re recommend removing ALL previous packages23:54
stdin*we23:54
stdinunless you know how to use dpkg well23:54
acemostdin: what i did was just update and upgrade after adding the repository23:55
stdinnot a good idea23:55
stdinfiles and packages have changed23:55
acemoi noticed23:55
stdinyou really should purge all the old packages then install the new ones23:55
stdinjust updating won't even install all the packages, even if it did install it would be incomplete23:56
acemostdin: yeah i noticed23:56
stdinand you'll also notice a new version of konversation in there too, but that's just my fault there :P23:57
acemostdin: heres the output of trying to remove kdelibs5 now... http://pastebin.com/m20c48d8423:59

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