[00:00] <Daisuke-Ido> DaSkreech: he said work, not annoy
[00:00] <Minataku> NeXT... barf
[00:00] <fignew> OMG YUO USE TEH WINDOZE
[00:00] <Dragnslcr> jmichaelx- I would think that a generic USB adapter would work with the included drivers
[00:00] <DaSkreech> fignew: I think that he's past that OS
[00:00] <oriongaby> hello
[00:00] <Minataku> He's not
[00:00] <Minataku> He turned it into Mac OSX
[00:00] <oriongaby> anybody klnnows were to get Aquamarine?
[00:00] <DaSkreech> Yeah but you don't see him trying to sell neXT do you?
[00:00] <Minataku> I do
[00:00] <Minataku> It's called "Mac OSX" now
[00:00] <Daisuke-Ido> when i say past ubuntu, i mean past the handholding, past the everything precompiled to defaults, etc
[00:00] <Daisuke-Ido> gentoo :D
[00:01] <fignew> Daisuke-Ido: and what does that allow you to do?
[00:01] <Minataku> DaSkreech: Even the calls in OSX are still prefixed "ns_"
[00:01] <Daisuke-Ido> NeXT with a mach kernel and BSD userspace tools?
[00:01] <Minataku> NeXT always had a Mach kernel
[00:01] <Daisuke-Ido> fignew: optimize, optimize, optimize.
[00:01] <Daisuke-Ido> ah
[00:01] <oriongaby> anybody klnnows were to get Aquamarine?
[00:01] <jmichaelx> Dragnslcr: actually i have no idea what would qualify as a generic usb adapter.... i have an rt2500 based usb adaptor (which is hard to get working in gutsy) and am rt73? usn adaptor that would probably only work with ndiswrapper
[00:02] <Daisuke-Ido> !aquamarine
[00:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aquamarine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:02] <jmichaelx> usb*
[00:02] <Minataku> It had it's own userspace tools, either that or they were stolen from 4.3BSD
[00:02] <Daisuke-Ido> !info aquamarine
[00:02] <ubotu> Package aquamarine does not exist in gutsy
[00:02] <Minataku> Now they're stolen from FreeBSD instead
[00:02] <DaSkreech> oriongaby: What do you mean?
[00:02] <fignew> Daisuke-Ido: what's to gain?
[00:02] <Daisuke-Ido> oriongaby: no.
[00:02] <Minataku> And the UI is iglier and even more useless
[00:02] <Daisuke-Ido> fignew: speed, for onw
[00:02] <Daisuke-Ido> one*
[00:02] <Minataku> I've used NeXTSTEP. It's horrible.
[00:02] <oriongaby> aquamarine theme manager
[00:02] <fignew> lol!
[00:02] <Daisuke-Ido> !info compiz-kde-decorator
[00:02] <ubotu> Package compiz-kde-decorator does not exist in gutsy
[00:03] <stdin> oriongaby: it was used for beryl, but the compiz-kde package places it
[00:03] <Minataku> I've used it on a SPARC, no less
[00:03] <Daisuke-Ido> there we go
[00:03] <hcbox_> Hi all, got a little problem that just happend, was transfering datas on a ntfs disk ... got a freeze on my computer ... and lost the whole target directory .. i can see it with konsole  but i can access it
[00:03] <oriongaby> kk
[00:03] <Minataku> Not some lame PC version
[00:03] <oriongaby> thx
[00:03] <Minataku> hcbox_: Perhaps see if Windows can fix it?
[00:03] <Minataku> Probably not, though
[00:04] <Minataku> I'm sure Windows probably would have wrecked it in the first place anyway
[00:04] <Daisuke-Ido> i am so tempted to make a comment about using ntfs in linux to begin with...
[00:04] <Daisuke-Ido> oh, i just did
[00:04] <hcbox_> i pluged my harddrive on windows
[00:04] <Minataku> "I'm Windows, I'm better than Linux, I'll ruin YOUR WHOLE DISK INSTEAD OF JUST ONE DIRECTORY LIKE LINUX DOES! SEE? BETTER!"
[00:04] <Dragnslcr> jmichaelx- I've never actually tried using a USB adapter, but I would think a store-brand one would work. Something from Netgear or Linksys probably would too
[00:04] <Minataku> :P
[00:04] <Minataku> Sorry. I've become bored.
[00:04] <Minataku> lol
[00:04] <fignew> Minataku: please.
[00:04] <jmichaelx> drag
[00:04] <jmichaelx> oops
[00:05] <stdin> Minataku: please behave in here
[00:05] <hcbox_> Minataku: i'm on linux but its and extern hard drive and i dont choose what system my friends uses and windows have crappy compatibility with hdd
[00:05] <DaSkreech> !tab | jmichaelx
[00:05] <ubotu> jmichaelx: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[00:05] <jmichaelx> Dragnslcr: getting wireless, particularly usb wireless, is way more problematic in linux than you may be aware
[00:05] <DaSkreech> hcbox_: install ntfs tools and run a scan on it?
[00:05] <Minataku> Oh, suddenly the crap I say every night is "misbehaving" because I got mad at a rule
[00:05] <Daisuke-Ido> jmichaelx: xbox 360 wireless adapter
[00:05] <DaSkreech> Yeah hardware working perfectly is still a linux hurdle
[00:06] <hcbox_> DaSkreech: gonna try it
[00:06] <jmichaelx> DaSkreech: i know about tab, but i hit reurn instaed of tab accidentally :-P
[00:06] <Daisuke-Ido> YOUR wired connection to its access point, which then goes to wireless :)
[00:06] <Dragnslcr> jmichaelx- I'm not talking about a USB wireless adapter. I meant a USB wired adapter
[00:06] <sailor> does anyone know how i can get adept-manager to stop crashing when i "fetch updates" ?
[00:06] <DaSkreech> one of the last three realms of Linux suckiness
[00:06] <Daisuke-Ido> DaSkreech: what are the others?
[00:06] <DaSkreech> jmichaelx: I knwo I was messing with ya :)
[00:06] <Daisuke-Ido> i imagine cohesiveness
[00:06] <DaSkreech> Games and subcultures
[00:06] <jmichaelx> Dragnslcr: ahh, i misunderstood you! i had not thought of that
[00:06] <DaSkreech> Or corner markets
[00:06] <hcbox_> DaSkreech: somtething like package nftsprogs
[00:06] <DaSkreech> which ever you want to see it as
[00:07] <DaSkreech> hcbox_: Right I think tthat's it
[00:07] <DaSkreech> sailor: fix your repos list ?
[00:07] <Daisuke-Ido> i should go try and get the remote working in geexbox
[00:07] <sailor> DaSkreech: I have removed my repos list and created a new one, still the same problem :/
[00:07] <Daisuke-Ido> working in the livecd
[00:07] <DaSkreech> hmm
[00:08] <Daisuke-Ido> so i just have to copy the lircd.conf over
[00:08] <DaSkreech> does apt-get update work on teh command line?
[00:08] <jmichaelx> it's funny, i bought a pcmcia ethernet adapter today at best buy for $5.99 on clearance hoping it would work under linux, but it doesn't
[00:08] <Daisuke-Ido> DaSkreech: yeah
[00:08] <DaSkreech> !hardware | jmichaelx
[00:08] <ubotu> jmichaelx: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[00:08] <sailor> DaSkreech: yeah no problems
[00:09] <fignew> jmichaelx: what does lspcmcia say?
[00:09] <jmichaelx> i also bought a pcmcia wireless adapter today at be$tbuy.... for $6.99, and it turned out to be atheros, which is awesome
[00:09] <jmichaelx> fignew: actually, i just used lspci.... no wnder it did not show up
[00:09] <fignew> :)
[00:10] <sailor> DaSkreech: My sources.list file: http://pastebin.com/d6d64860d
[00:10] <jmichaelx> fignew: ok, lemme reboot and see what lspcmcia tells me.... i do know that the lights did not come on...  i tried to use it with mepis antix, and with the debian netinstall cd
[00:10] <Minataku> Sorry all for getting a bit out of hand
[00:11] <Daisuke-Ido> jmichaelx: getting a good deal on working hardware is hardly a reason to use the dollar sign in the store's name.  it's petty and childish, and almost as annoying as when people do the same for microsoft
[00:11] <fignew> ok
[00:11] <jmichaelx> Daisuke-Ido: i have had issues with bestbuy, sorry for the offense
[00:11] <DaSkreech> sailor: run adept from the command line and see if it thrws a message when it crashes
[00:12] <fignew> Daisuke-Ido: He can write however he pleases
[00:12] <Daisuke-Ido> i'm not personally offended, but if you've had issues, why did you go back anyway?
[00:12] <fignew> perhaps it's the only tech store in his area?
[00:12] <jmichaelx> Daisuke-Ido: lack of choices, partly, and to see what clearance stuff they had
[00:12] <Daisuke-Ido> partly
[00:12] <hcbox_> DaSkreech: ntfsfix doesnt solve anything, my directory is still missing another idea ?
[00:12] <stdin> Daisuke-Ido, fignew: please keep on topic
[00:13] <jmichaelx> anyways , it's be$tbuy to me....
[00:13] <jmichaelx> brb
[00:13] <fignew> stdin: I was keeping on the topic that Daisuke-Ido started ;)
[00:13] <DaSkreech> hcbox_: were you moving it or copying?
[00:14] <stdin> we have a whole channel for general chat, but no one ever uses it :p
[00:14] <DaSkreech> really? what is this mythical channel stdin ?
[00:14] <hcbox_> copying some files in the directory, and the whole directory disapear not only the files being copied
[00:15] <sailor> DaSkreech: from command line: http://pastebin.com/m443452ba
[00:15] <jmichaelx> stdin: you know what, i have been scolded for discussing OT topics twice in #ubuntu-offtopic , or whatever it is called lol
[00:15] <stdin> DaSkreech: it's #ubuntu+kde-gnome-offtopic :)
[00:15] <ben_> im gutted my pc is dieing
[00:15] <ben_> can anyone help?
[00:15] <ben_> please
[00:15] <DaSkreech> !anyone | ben_
[00:15] <ubotu> ben_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[00:16] <ben_> well its a swear word in here but i dual boot use linux mostly but windows for games my windows says its missing hall.dll
[00:16] <ben_> is this terminal?
[00:17] <DaSkreech> ben_: So Windows is dying?
[00:17] <stdin> that's a windows issue, so it's best to ask that in ##windows as more people know about windows in there than do in here
[00:17] <ben_> ok thanks
[00:18] <carelesslies> dying would be a an exageration, but declining . . .
[00:18] <ben_> well it wont boot
[00:18] <ben_> so at the min id say that was pretty terminal
[00:18] <DaSkreech> That;s normal for me
[00:21] <DaSkreech> stdin: does the pastebin for adept make any sense to you?
[00:21] <stdin> DaSkreech: it just says it's crashing, but doesn't give an indication why
[00:22] <DaSkreech> stdin: what's the warning beside kdecore ?
[00:22] <stdin> DaSkreech: that just says it's connecting to a pty device (normal behaviour for adept)
[00:23] <jmichaelx> ok, i ran lspcmcia on this machine, and the only output i got was [yenta_cardbus]etc,etc... it does not appear to see the ethernet adaptor
[00:23] <DaSkreech> sailor: try purge adept and reinstall?
[00:26] <munk_> i have an aspire 5610 and im trying to make my  $ and euro sign buttons work and i have it all working except the startup script which instead of running the script opens the file with Kate...HELP?
[00:27] <DaSkreech> munk_: is it executable?
[00:27] <munk_> DaSkreech how do i find that ?!
[00:28] <DaSkreech> munk_: right click and look at permissions. If executable is un checked then check it
[00:28] <Dragnslcr> munk_- and does it have an interpreter line at the top of the file (e.g. #!/bin/bash)
[00:29] <munk_> Dragnslcr yes it does
[00:29] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, make sure it's executable then
[00:29] <munk_> DaSkreech no its not how do i activate that i cant edit that
[00:31] <DaSkreech> munk_: who owns it?
[00:31] <munk_> DaSkreech, root
[00:32] <hcbox_> DaSkreech: FUSE mount point creation failed > its worse :)
[00:32] <DaSkreech> hcbox_: have a Windows box?
[00:32] <hcbox_> DaSkreech: yeah just plug it on windows
[00:33] <munk_> DaSkreech, how do i make it executable?!
[00:33] <moofoo> are there beta4 or even more recent snapshot builds of kde4 for gutsy?
[00:33] <DaSkreech> munk_: kdesu dolphin and do the premissions check again
[00:33] <hcbox_> DaSkreech: i plugged it, reboot, disconnect safely and i got FUSE mount point creation failed back on ubuntu
[00:34] <DaSkreech> hcbox_: ntfstools can set the drive to force a check next time Windows sees it  make it do that
[00:34] <stdin> moofoo: I'm checking if they build in gutsy now, (kdelibs 91%)
[00:34] <Dragnslcr> moofoo- topic
[00:34] <hcbox_> its with netfix, i tried but nothing happend on windows box when rebooting
[00:35] <moofoo> Dragnslcr: slap me :P
[00:35] <stdin> hopefully we'll have 3.96.0 in a few days...
[00:35] <munk_> DaSkreech, it doesnt work:-<
[00:36] <Dragnslcr> moofoo- heh, I wouldn't have noticed if your asking hadn't reminded me that I wanted to see if beta4 was packaged yet
[00:37] <DaSkreech> munk_: afraid of the command line?
[00:38] <munk_> DaSkreech, no..
[00:38] <DaSkreech> munk_: sudo chmod + x /path/to/file
[00:39] <moofoo> will this be the beta4 or a more recent snapshot? (like some krash-weekends-later ;-)
[00:39] <munk_> DaSkreech, done...
[00:39] <DaSkreech> moofoo: probably the release after Beta4
[00:40] <DaSkreech> munk_: executable now ?
[00:40] <moofoo> nice
[00:40] <munk_> DaSkreech, yes, so everytime i want to add something to Autostart i have to do chmod +x?
[00:40] <DaSkreech> munk_: that would be correct
[00:41] <DaSkreech> if it is not executable then it cannot execute!
[00:41] <munk_> DaSkreech, thank you very much ill probably be back because im trying to get my system in close to perfect condition
[00:41] <munk_> thanks thats good to know...i owe u again..:p
[00:42] <DaSkreech> munk_: anytime. come on back you hear?
[00:47] <hcbox_> DaSkreech: made a chkdsk on windows and have the same problem Fuse mount point failed //
[00:47] <DaSkreech> wat
[00:47] <DaSkreech>  Windows says Fuse failed?
[00:47] <hcbox_> nop, when i connect it on ubuntu
[00:48] <DaSkreech> ah
[00:48] <hcbox_> on windows my directory is always here ... but in ubuntu the mount point disapear and i cant mount my disk
[00:48] <DaSkreech> windows sees the disk fine?
[00:48] <hcbox_> sure
[00:48] <INIT_6> This is just wired, using kubuntu 7.1 Have geforce 2 ultra 128mb I enabled the Restricted drivers. It worked perfect. I even rebooted a couple times for other things. now it's broken. I looked through the LOG file no errors. I switch the driver in the xorg.conf file back to nv. and loads. I don't know what changed only thing was a few updates. any help?
[00:48] <DaSkreech> Just not the dir?
[00:49] <hcbox_> in fact my mount point was HD and the rep was HD_DVD ...
[00:49] <hcbox_> now the problem is not the HD_DVD directory but the HD mount point
[00:49] <hcbox_> annot remove `HD': Is a directory
[00:49] <hcbox_> hcbox@hcbox-desktop:/media$ sudo rmdir HD
[00:49] <hcbox_> rmdir: HD: Device or resource busy
[00:50] <Admiral_Chicago> hcbox_: its mounted and being read
[00:50] <DaSkreech> lsof it
[00:52] <hcbox_> Admiral_Chicago: u were right, and its the solution i umount the HD point and it appear in dolphin ...i can now mount my HDD with the fully directory DVD_HD
[00:52] <hcbox_> works fine thanks to DaSkreech & Admiral_Chicago... my breathe is now normal =) very happy
[00:53] <Admiral_Chicago> you're welcome
[00:53] <Admiral_Chicago> hiya DaSkreech :D
[00:53] <DaSkreech> hcbox_: I was confuzzled as to the problem sorry for taking so long :)
[00:53] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: !! :)
[00:54] <stdin> ...
[00:54] <stdin> !away > blendtux-away
[00:54] <hcbox_> No problem guys i learned a new trick today, ntfsfix & umount a point ;) everyday learning with linux ;)
[00:54] <DaSkreech> hcbox_: Oh yeah always unmount points when you are done before removing the mount point
[00:55] <blendtux-away> i just changed my nick stdin
[00:55] <DaSkreech> The system will be confused if you want to remove the mount point or everything on the file system that was mounted
[00:55] <blendtux-away> if i changed it to blool nobody would say anything stdin
[00:56] <stdin> blendtux-away: changing nick on away or  to show you're away is against the ubuntu-irc policy, that's why I got ubotu to pm you
[01:02] <ctk> what program do I use to make a DVD of pictures? for playback on a standalone DVD player
[01:03] <DaSkreech> k3b?
[01:03] <DaSkreech> I would guess
[01:03] <ctk> just a data cd, I guess? will it play?
[01:04] <DaSkreech> dunno never tried
[01:05] <ctk> Well like to set transition time and stuff. I guess I could just make a screencast of a powerpoint and burn it as a video cd or somethi8ng...
[01:06] <ctk> k, thanks
[01:07] <Beowulf> !kcc
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kcc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <Beowulf> !info kcc
[01:07] <ubotu> kcc: Kanji code filter. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3-12 (gutsy), package size 15 kB, installed size 88 kB
[01:08] <Beowulf> hmm
[01:08] <Beowulf> What do you need to compile stuff in kde?
[01:09] <Beowulf> ???
[01:10] <stdin> to compile kde apps or general stuff?
[01:10] <Beowulf> yea
[01:10] <stdin> install build-essential and kde-devel
[01:11] <DaSkreech> !b-e | Beowulf
[01:11] <ubotu> Beowulf: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:11] <sailor> :( ive even tried uninstalling / re-installing adept-manager and its deps, but it still crash's when i "fetch updates" any other suggestions guys?
[01:12] <Beowulf> are the sources for the updates right?
[01:12] <DaSkreech> sailor: you purged?
[01:12] <sailor> sudo apt-get autoclean ?
[01:12] <sailor> yep
[01:12] <DaSkreech> sailor: huh? no
[01:12] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get remove adept -- purge
[01:12] <sailor> oh right
[01:12] <sailor> hang on
[01:12] <sailor> ill do it now
[01:14] <sailor> DaSkreech: yeah i purged, then installed again and still the same :(
[01:15] <sailor> DaSkreech: i just removed sources.list file so adept-manager would use absolute minimum and it still does it.
[01:15] <DaSkreech> sailor: You removed the sources list?
[01:15] <Beowulf> this install is gonna take a while isnt it?
[01:15] <sailor> damn driving me nuts! all i want to do is click "fetch updates" so then i can do the dist upgrade.
[01:16] <sailor> DaSkreech: yeah i can put it back again, or create a new one, which i have already tried.
[01:16] <DaSkreech> !easysource
[01:16] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:16] <DaSkreech> try that ^^
[01:16] <DaSkreech>  but I think the issue is adept
[01:16] <sailor> DaSkreech:  ok
[01:16] <sailor> DaSkreech: yeah :/
[01:21] <medion> hello
[01:21] <tekteen> hi
[01:21] <sailor> DaSkreech: ok ive done that and still no dice :( what else can i try?
[01:21] <tekteen> sFEARs: do u have a question?
[01:22] <sFEARs> when i try to get a web page in konqueror i get
[01:22] <sFEARs> An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com:
[01:22] <sFEARs> Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/.
[01:22] <sn00zer> when installing window$ in virtualbox do you still need to activate? i still dual boot with this copy and don't want to screw up the actual install
[01:22] <tekteen> u do not have internet?
[01:22] <sFEARs> worked for a little while... then i lost my wireless connection for a minute.. tried to load google.. got that error, connection came back on but i still have that error in konqueror
[01:23] <tekteen> sFEARs: try to restart
[01:23] <sFEARs> i'm connected right now but get that error in konqueror.. firefox works fine
[01:23] <sFEARs> tried that
[01:23] <tekteen> ok
[01:23] <tekteen> have u checked proxy settings
[01:23] <sFEARs> and that's any web page.. not just google
[01:23] <sFEARs> yeah.. no proxies set
[01:24] <Beowulf> hmmm
[01:24] <Beowulf> !start
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <Beowulf> !info start
[01:24] <ubotu> Package start does not exist in gutsy
[01:24] <sFEARs> i even apt-get remove konquror and reinstalled.. didn't help
[01:24] <tekteen> ok
[01:24] <sFEARs> i havn't tried logging in as another user
[01:24] <Beowulf> Anyone know of a fun package whose source i can get?
[01:24] <sFEARs> that's would exactally help my current situation though
[01:25] <tekteen> I do not know the problem.
[01:25] <tekteen> sorry
[01:25] <sFEARs> i can't connect by IP either
[01:25] <sFEARs> lame
[01:26] <tekteen> sFEARs: does it matter?
[01:26] <sFEARs> i'd like to have it working
[01:26] <tekteen> sFEARs: u can use firefox
[01:26] <tekteen> ok
[01:26] <tekteen> sorry
[01:26] <sFEARs> firefox doesn't browse the filesystem right
[01:26] <sFEARs> i like to jump back and forth
[01:26] <tekteen> ok
[01:26] <Beowulf> tekteen: know of a random good package whose source I could download?
[01:27] <tekteen> beowulf: java6
[01:27] <Beowulf> nah
[01:27] <tekteen> why
[01:27] <Beowulf> something more fun
[01:27] <tekteen> why
[01:27] <Beowulf> Wanna test my compiling thing
[01:27] <Beowulf> I just fixed it
[01:27] <Beowulf> I think
[01:27] <tekteen> firefox?
[01:28] <Beowulf> got it already
[01:28] <tekteen> wine?
[01:28] <Beowulf> got it
[01:28] <tekteen> compiz?
[01:28] <Beowulf> hmm
[01:28] <Beowulf> ok
[01:29] <Beowulf> Where do i get it?
[01:29] <tekteen> hold on
[01:29] <tekteen> sudo apt-get source compiz
[01:30] <tekteen> this will get the ubuntu source package
[01:33] <Beowulf> !paste
[01:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:34] <Beowulf> tekteen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45180/
[01:34] <Beowulf> !paste Beowulf
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste beowulf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <Beowulf> ...
[01:34] <tekteen> !paste| Beowulf
[01:34] <ubotu> Beowulf: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:35] <Beowulf> I see
[01:35] <Beowulf> tekteen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45180/
[01:35] <Beowulf> !paste| Beowulf
[01:35] <Beowulf> help?
[01:36] <tekteen> u r missing dependencies.
[01:36] <Beowulf> which are?
[01:36] <tekteen> one sec
[01:37] <tekteen> currently u r only missing the package "libstartup-notification0"
[01:37] <tekteen> but it will ask for u to install more
[01:37] <Beowulf> oh joy
[01:37] <tekteen> try something else like clam
[01:38] <Beowulf> libstartup-notification0 is already the newest version.
[01:38] <tekteen> u can get it from there site
[01:38] <tekteen> their*
[01:38] <NickPresta> Beowulf, what seems to be your problem?
[01:38] <sanzanric> help! recently i made a new user account and i moved over my documents and music from my old account but now i can only read the folders,  i can't write to them. How can i fix this?
[01:38] <Beowulf> trying out my source compiling
[01:38] <Beowulf> just fixed it a minute ago
[01:38] <Beowulf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45180/
[01:38] <NickPresta> sanzanric, chmod/chgrp the files to your username
[01:38] <Beowulf> then it gave me that while trying to install compiz
[01:39] <NickPresta> Beowulf, have you installed libstatup-notification-1.0?
[01:39] <Beowulf> HMMM
[01:39] <sanzanric> NickPresta, how would i do that exactly?
[01:39] <NickPresta> Beowulf, you need the -dev package. libstartup-notification0-dev
[01:39] <tekteen> sanzanric: open up a konsole
[01:39] <Beowulf> E: Couldn't find package libstartup-notification-1.0
[01:40] <ardchoille> !info libstartup-notification-1.0
[01:40] <ubotu> Package libstartup-notification-1.0 does not exist in gutsy
[01:40] <sanzanric> tekteen, right
[01:40] <NickPresta> sanzanric, I believe something like: `sudo chgrp USERNAME /home/USERNAME` where USERNAME is your username. Replace chgrp with chmod and you're done. That should do it.
[01:40] <tekteen> sanzanric: then type "chown -R USER.GROUP FILE"
[01:40] <Beowulf> !info libstartup-notification0
[01:40] <ubotu> libstartup-notification0: library for program launch feedback (shared library). In component main, is optional. Version 0.9-1 (gutsy), package size 20 kB, installed size 92 kB
[01:40] <NickPresta> !find libstartup-notification-1.0
[01:41] <Beowulf> nvm
[01:41] <Beowulf> I got it
[01:41] <tekteen> or folder
[01:41] <sFEARs> anyone know how to install multiple distrobutions
[01:41] <ubotu> Package/file libstartup-notification-1.0 does not exist in gutsy
[01:41] <sFEARs> i have all the files copied over to a separate partition, but i'm not sure how to do the whole kernel thing
[01:41] <Beowulf> it's compiling again
[01:41] <sFEARs> so that it boots correctally
[01:41] <tekteen> sFEARs: it is in grub
[01:42] <NickPresta> sFEARs, which files have been copied? /home?
[01:42] <sFEARs> i've edited the boot/grub/menu.lst file
[01:42] <tekteen> sFEARs: does you comp. still boot?
[01:42] <Beowulf> oh boy
[01:42] <NickPresta> Beowulf, ?
[01:42] <Beowulf> more missing dependencies...
[01:42] <Beowulf> installing gconf now
[01:42] <sanzanric> Nick, the program stated: chgrp: invalid group 'myusername'
[01:43] <NickPresta> Beowulf, which are they? This is what happens when you decide to compile software. You must install the dependencies yourself :)
[01:43] <sFEARs> i can get into windows & kubuntu fine, and i have the /bin /usr/ sbin /lib.. all the folders copied
[01:43] <Beowulf> nick: I know that, I just hate doing it
[01:43] <sFEARs> but i'm not sure how to get grub to poing to that distrobution
[01:43] <NickPresta> sanzanric, what is your new username?
[01:43] <sFEARs> i think i might have to compile a kernel... any ideas?
[01:43] <NickPresta> Beowulf, what's wrong with the version of Compiz in the repos?
[01:44] <Beowulf> I wanted to compile
[01:44] <tekteen> Beowulf: do a easier project like clamav <http://clamav.net>
[01:44] <Beowulf> I just wanted to make sure my source compiling works
[01:44] <Beowulf> last time it said i lacked the neccessary kde components
[01:44] <tekteen> sFEARs: Paste your menu.lst file
[01:44] <sanzanric> Nick, its my name
[01:44] <sFEARs> in grub my kubuntu boot option has the 2.6.15 kernel or whatever listed in there.. so i copied that kernel over to the /lib/modules folder where i thought it needed to be, but it still didn't work
[01:44] <NickPresta> sanzanric, then you replace USERNAME with sanzanric
[01:45] <Beowulf> !info clamav
[01:45] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.91.2-3ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 856 kB, installed size 1284 kB
[01:45] <sanzanric> yes that is what i did.
[01:45] <tekteen> !paste | sFEARs
[01:45] <ubotu> sFEARs: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:45] <tekteen> sFEARs: paste the file
[01:45] <Beowulf> nick: said it couldnt find gconf-2.0
[01:46] <Beowulf> needs gconf2?
[01:46] <Beowulf> !info gconf2
[01:46] <ubotu> gconf2: GNOME configuration database system (support tools). In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 134 kB, installed size 284 kB
[01:46] <NickPresta> Beowulf, you need the -dev packages
[01:46] <sFEARs> are there some distros that can only use lilo to boot?
[01:46] <Beowulf> damnit
[01:46] <tekteen> sFEARs: paste your menu.list file
[01:47] <tekteen> sFEARs: u can not be helped till we see it
[01:47] <sFEARs> hold on
[01:47] <sFEARs> i'm working on it
[01:48] <shaffy> can anyone tell me of an audio-cd ripping program?  i want to make mp3s from a cd.
[01:48] <tekteen> shaffy: in a konsole type "sudo apt-get install lame"
[01:48] <Beowulf> Nick: it says there is no gconf-dev
[01:49] <NickPresta> shaffy, I like `abcde`
[01:49] <Beowulf> And it still says I'm missing gconf-2.0
[01:49] <Beowulf> Nick: ^
[01:49] <NickPresta> Beowulf, libgconf2-dev
[01:50] <Beowulf> oh
[01:50] <tekteen> shaffy: Then open up konqueror and go to the url <audiocd:/>
[01:50] <tekteen> then copy the "MP3" folder to another folder
[01:50] <init6> does anyone know why my kubuntu in adept manager says I can upgrade to 7.1 when I am already on 7.1 I installed it off a CD.
[01:50] <tekteen> it will auto rip and convert to mp3
[01:51] <NickPresta> !upgradebug
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about upgradebug - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <NickPresta> init6, I believe it's a known bug. I would just ignore it
[01:51] <init6> I would but I think it's making it so I can't update my other packages or get the correct list of packages to upgrade
[01:51] <tekteen> shaffy: u still there?
[01:51] <shaffy> thanks tekteen and NickPresta.  appreciate the input.
[01:51] <init6> I will try http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <tekteen> np
[01:52] <sFEARs> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45181/
[01:53] <tekteen> sFEARs: looking at it (give me a sec)
[01:53] <sFEARs> thanks
[01:53] <Beowulf> yay!
[01:54] <Beowulf> It's making stuff
[01:54] <tekteen> sFears: what distro is it?
[01:54] <Beowulf> Is it possible at all to win at Thirteen?'
[01:55] <shaffy> tekteen: yo,i am still here.  but quick question.  your option that you said, does it read from CDDB as well before ripping to keep filenames and such?
[01:55] <sFEARs> any
[01:55] <sFEARs> redhat
[01:55] <kjnfkjnkjfgkjfgk> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[01:55] <tekteen> shaffy: yes
[01:55] <sFEARs> do the distro files need to be loaded in the root filesystem?
[01:55] <shaffy> tekteen: sweet.  thanks dude.
[01:56] <sFEARs> does it matter that they're on a logical partition?
[01:56] <tekteen> sFEARs: yes
[01:56] <Beowulf> Nick: /usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'
[01:56] <Beowulf> Nick: then it got 2 errors and terminated
[01:56] <tekteen> sFEARs: it should be in a primary partition
[01:56] <sFEARs> i tried to set up the root filesystem onto the logical partition and wanted grub to point to it
[01:57] <tekteen> sFEARs: don't know how
[01:58] <sFEARs> just like windows points to hd0,0 and kubuntu points to hd0,1 i want it to point to hd0,6.. just so happens that's a logical partition, has all the files i need on it, just not sure which kernel to use.. i think
[01:58] <Beowulf> tekteen: /usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'
[01:58] <tekteen> sFEARs: use /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic
[01:59] <sFEARs> will try
[01:59] <tekteen> hold on
[01:59] <sFEARs> that's not specifically for kubuntu?
[01:59] <tekteen> nm
[01:59] <tekteen> one sec
[02:00] <wastedfluid> hello.. i have a problem i've never experienced before.  When I am using Amarok to play mp3s, xorg's cpu usage goes to 55-75%.. and just owns my laptop.  If I close Amarok, it dies down and goes to normal.. however, if I just stop the mp3 - it still stays high..
[02:00] <tekteen> sFEARs: use "/vmlinuz"
[02:00] <tekteen> that is a symlink to the newest kernel
[02:01] <ubuntu> Valaki magyarul tude ?
[02:01] <Beowulf> tekteen: a little assistance?
[02:01]  * tekteen is helping too much
[02:01] <tekteen> what do u need Beowulf
[02:02] <Beowulf> tekteen: /usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'
[02:02] <Beowulf> tekteen: It tells me that then it terminates
[02:02] <tekteen> Beowulf: No clue. Sorry
[02:02] <Beowulf> damn
[02:02] <Beowulf> oh well
[02:02] <tekteen> try clamav
[02:02] <tekteen> it is EASY
[02:03] <tekteen> good for first time
[02:04] <tekteen> Beowulf: http://freshmeat.net/redir/clamav/29355/url_tgz/clamav-0.91.2.tar.gz
[02:04] <stdin> !clamav
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clamav - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <stdin> !info clamav
[02:04] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.91.2-3ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 856 kB, installed size 1284 kB
[02:05] <tekteen> stdin: he is trying to compile from source. :-)
[02:05] <stdin> exactly
[02:05] <stdin> why do it when it's packaged?
[02:05] <NickPresta> Compiling something from source for the sake of compiling something from sources seems rather, odd, to say the least.
[02:06] <NickPresta> There are smaller, unpackages applications, which can be compiled from source if you really, really want to compile something
[02:06] <tekteen> stdin: he is learning to compiling from source
[02:06] <NickPresta> s/unpackages/unpackaged
[02:06] <daftman> does anyone have problem with eclipse on kubuntu?
[02:06] <stdin> tekteen: there's a guide for that
[02:06] <stdin> !compile
[02:06] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:06] <tekteen> cool
[02:06] <tekteen> ty
[02:07] <daftman> eclipse keep crashing on me
[02:07] <stdin> also help in #ubuntu-motu
[02:07] <daftman> only on ubuntu
[02:09] <NickPresta> daftman, it is only a ubuntu problem?
[02:10] <shaffy> does anyone know how to get an updated irc server list in konversation?  like somehow using the mIRC server.ini file?
[02:11] <daftman> NickPresta: yes i don't have the problem if I download europa from eclipse website
[02:11] <daftman> NickPresta: only when I get eclipse through the repo, things start to go wrong
[02:11] <daftman> NickPresta: like the splash screen doesn't stay
[02:11] <daftman> *dissappear
[02:11] <daftman> *crash often
[02:14] <init6> I thought I would share what I just learned. in kubuntu 7.1. if apt-manager thinks it can update to 7.1 you have to go into a terminal and run: apt-get update then apt-get upgrade fixes the issue.
[02:14] <tekteen> init6: nice to know
[02:19] <hagabaka> is there a program that configures the side buttons with presets in common programs?
[02:19] <hagabaka> side buttons on mice
[02:22] <hellhound> does anyone know a scan program in kde that can scan to pdf?
[02:26] <BluesKaj> hellhound, I've used the kooka scan app, but for my setup it doesn't do nearly as wellas windows on photos as the windows apps do, dunno about pdf files , maybe they might be ok , not sure.
[02:27] <BluesKaj> oops repeating myself again
[02:27] <stdin> just scan to an image then print to pdf
[02:32] <jarmes> is there a utility for modifying power management?
[02:34] <jarmes> when I leave my desktop idle for about 2 hours, it shuts down, and I'm wondering if this could be a power management issue
[02:37] <jake_> I've had an issue for a while. I have an older machine (eMachines W4885) that will not boot *Ubuntu - alt disk or regular disk. It simply reads the CD during bootup but then goes on to boot from the hard disk. I believe I have everything set up correctly in the bios, as some distros (Mandriva, SUSE, Puppy) boot fine.
[02:38] <hellhound> BluesKaj: do you happen to know how to scan to full size.  For some reason it keeps reducing the image
[02:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> uh?
[02:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> it scans at a certain dpi value
[02:41] <dsmith_> Daisuke_Laptop: who did you say makes he best laptops?
[02:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> makes the best?  i dunno
[02:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> i like my dell though :)
[02:42] <dsmith_> heh
[02:42] <dsmith_> someone told me fujistu or toshiba
[02:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> hellhound: a 4x6 image scanned at 100 dpi is "actual size" at 400x600 pixels
[02:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> a 4x6 image scanned at 1200 dpi is "actual size" at 4800 x 7200 pixels
[02:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> actual size is relative.
[02:44] <hellhound> Daisuke_Laptop: I am trying to scan a letter and print it to pdf.  When i do this the document is small
[02:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> logical followthrough of the last couple things i said: if you want it LARGER, increase the DPI
[02:46] <hellhound> Daisuke_Laptop: i guess what I am asking is what dpi i should have it at if the scanned image i 8.5x11 and I want it to print to pdf at 8.5x11
[02:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> scan at, say, 300-600 dpi
[02:47] <hellhound> Daisuke_Laptop: Thank you.
[02:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's not all, give me a moment :)
[02:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> trying to give you the right options here :)
[02:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> i wouldn't print from kooka
[02:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> gwenview an option?
[02:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> should be
[02:49] <hellhound> Daisuke_Laptop: yes I have that program... what is wrong with kooka though
[02:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> because i don't have it right here in front of me - this should apply though, i think it's a default print dialog for both
[02:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> there should be a scaling option somewhere when you choose to print to pdf
[02:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> fit to page.
[02:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay, in kooka, you'll have to hit the options button, then it's under image printing
[02:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> scale image to fit page
[02:52] <rafa> hi!!
[02:53] <hellhound> Daisuke_Laptop: i do not see an options button in kooka
[02:54] <wastedfluid> hello.. i have a problem i've never experienced before.  When I am using Amarok to play mp3s, xorg's cpu usage goes to 55-75%.. and just owns my laptop.  If I close Amarok, it dies down and goes to normal.. however, if I just stop the mp3 - it still stays high..
[02:54] <level1> hi, amarok crashed and now it just won't run again
[02:54] <level1> I ran it from the command line, and I get nothing, it just hangs and never produces any output
[02:54] <level1> wastedfluid: have you tried other media formats?
[02:55] <wastedfluid> Not necessarily.
[02:55] <wastedfluid> i played a dvd and it didn't get this hot.. it didn't even jack up the cpu like that
[02:55] <level1> wastedfluid: have you or haven't you?
[02:55] <level1> wastedfluid: in amarok I mean
[02:56] <wastedfluid> no, I haven't.. lettme try.
[02:56] <hellhound> Daisuke_Laptop: nevermind i found it
[02:57] <hellhound> Daisuke_Laptop: awesome it works perfectly.. Thank you
[02:57] <wastedfluid> level1: sigh, I went to open it.. and it did again; xorg at 85%.. I can't even really open it and to try.
[03:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> back
[03:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> was fiddling with GB
[03:08] <medion_> having trouble getting konqueor to connect to web pages.. need some help
[03:08] <cpk1> wastedfluid: what if you use a different app to play mp3's?
[03:18] <fignew> medion_ what's up?
[03:20] <Aresilek> hey does anyone know of a flv player for kubuntu?
[03:22] <AmyRose> Aresilek: Yes, Kaffeine plays them
[03:22] <BluesKaj> VLC
[03:22] <AmyRose> Aresilek: You need to install libxine1-ffmpeg
[03:23] <Aresilek> BluesKaj: VLC? not working for me :-(
[03:23] <Aresilek> AmyRose: how do i do that?
[03:23] <AmyRose> Aresilek: If you install libxine1-ffmpeg in Adept/Synaptic/Aptitude/whatever (with the Universe and Multiverse enabled) you can play FLV's in Kaffeine
[03:25] <Aresilek> AmyRose: found it :-D thanks :-)
[03:26] <AmyRose> Aresilek: You're welcome
[03:26] <AmyRose> BluesKaj: I can't get VLC working for most of what I try playing with it
[03:27] <AmyRose> People keep saying it's the greatest player ever, but I cannot get the stupid player to work
[03:27] <Aresilek> AmyRose: i think it is the best player ever, and was shocked that it wouldn't play flv, i'm sure i've played flv in vlc in windows
[03:28] <BluesKaj> it'll run most formats that i know of including media iso files
[03:28] <dthacker> !ipod
[03:28] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[03:28] <Aresilek> it works! :-D
[03:29] <AmyRose> !rockbox
[03:29] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[03:29] <MilitantPotato> I love VLC, but here recently the sound either skips, doesn't play or the video fails to load completely
[03:29] <BluesKaj> !songbird
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about songbird - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <MilitantPotato> I've started using kaffeen
[03:30] <sn00zer> i prefer amarok for audio and mplayer for video
[03:30] <BluesKaj> dthacker, I've heard good things about songbird for ipods on linux
[03:30] <AmyRose> I hate iPods with a passion
[03:31] <biovore> yay..
[03:31] <BluesKaj> hehe, yeah ppl either luv 'em or hate 'em
[03:31] <biovore> propritary crap...
[03:31] <biovore> then again.. you can put rockbox on them :-)
[03:31] <dthacker> I installed Kubuntu on one of my son's friends computers.  Now he wants to use a brand new ipod on it and I now there were issues with them.
[03:32] <dthacker> s/now/know
[03:32] <dthacker> so I'm looking for the package or patch if one is available
[03:32] <BluesKaj> could care less about "disposable music" ...mp3 in other words, casual listening maybe
[03:32] <medion> where in system settings can you configure what happens when you close the laptop screen??
[03:32] <AmyRose> medion: The battery monitor
[03:33] <medion> thank you
[03:33] <AmyRose> medion: in the system tray. That's what controls it
[03:34] <BluesKaj> well sacktime for me ...nite all
[03:34] <hydrogen> dthacker: you need to compile Amarok against libgpod 0.6.0.. but it can handle them now
[03:35] <Beowulf> I get this weird error while compiling compiz
[03:35] <Beowulf> can anyone help with that?
[03:36] <dthacker> hydrogen: do you use a Kubuntu source package to compile?  Will that keep package management clean?
[03:36] <Beowulf> /usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'
[03:36] <Beowulf> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[03:36] <hydrogen> dthacker: you need to do a bit of working around to get it right :/
[03:36] <dthacker> hydrogen: ok, got a link,  I'll try a test box first.
[03:37] <dthacker> I mean got a link?
[03:37] <hydrogen> dthacker: hmm.. trying to think of the easiest way for you to do it and keep package management clean
[03:37] <hydrogen> perhaps just build your own .deb...
[03:37] <hydrogen> or use checkinstall
[03:37]  * dthacker takes notes
[03:38] <Beowulf> hydrogen: you seem knowledgeable, could you help me?
[03:38] <hydrogen> !checkinstall
[03:38] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[03:38] <hydrogen> yea, thats what you should use dthacker :)
[03:39] <dthacker> hydrogen: thanks!  this looks like something cool to play with. :)
[03:39] <Beowulf> hydrogen: I get this weird error while compiling compiz
[03:39] <Beowulf> /usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'
[03:39] <Beowulf> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[03:40] <hydrogen> why are you compiling compiz?
[03:40] <Beowulf> I wanted to test my compiling
[03:40] <Beowulf> it wasnt working and i thought i fixed it
[03:41] <Beowulf> I'm just missing something else
[03:41] <Beowulf> I'm on the "make" stage
[03:43] <Beowulf> ...
[03:44] <blmm> Most, but not all, of my toolbars icons in Kontact were one day replaced by ugly-looking (default?) ones. What could have happened?
[03:44] <Beowulf> blmm: go to a konsole and type in kcontrol
[03:44] <smax> what is the apache directory to store an index.html ?
[03:44] <blmm> Yes...
[03:45] <Beowulf> did you do that?
[03:45] <blmm> yep
[03:45] <Beowulf> go to ummm'
[03:45] <Beowulf> hang on
[03:45] <blmm> Icons?
[03:45] <blmm> I have Crystal SVG selected.
[03:46] <Beowulf> switch yuor icon set
[03:46] <Beowulf> then switch it back
[03:46] <Beowulf> A program you got might have modified it
[03:46] <blmm> Switching to Crystal Clear...
[03:47] <blmm> The icons did not change in Kontact. They did change elsewhere.
[03:48] <Beowulf> hmmm
[03:48] <blmm> I still have a mix of Crystal SVG (I assume) and the ugly ones in Kontact.
[03:48] <Beowulf> the icons might be corrupted
[03:48] <blmm> None of them are Crystal Clear, so Kontact didn't register the change at all.
[03:48] <Beowulf> oh
[03:48] <Beowulf> hmm
[03:49] <blmm> I did restart Kontact.
[03:49] <Beowulf> lemme open it
[03:49] <blmm> Tried switching to Monocrome; no effect in Kontact.
[03:50] <Beowulf> hmmm
[03:50] <smax> 24.229.180.251/funny.jpg
[03:51] <Beowulf> smax: wtf...
[03:52] <Beowulf> blmm: sorry, I don't know
[03:52] <Beowulf> one thing you might try though
[03:52] <blmm> ok
[03:53] <Beowulf> If you really care about icons and its that important to you
[03:53] <Beowulf> remove kontact
[03:53] <Beowulf> then reinstall
[03:53] <blmm> Makes sense. Purge it?
[03:53] <Beowulf> pretty much
[03:55] <ardchoille> I don't think that icons in kontact change with the icon theme.
[03:56] <ardchoille> At least they never have here and I have used it over the past couple years
[03:56] <blmm> Is there a Kontact-specific setting then?
[03:56] <ardchoille> I've never found one
[03:56] <Beowulf> I looked, i didnt find it
[03:56] <ardchoille> I think the are hard-coded
[03:57] <Beowulf> remove kontact
[03:57] <Beowulf> sudo apt-get purge kontact
[03:57] <Beowulf> ardchoille: could you help me?
[03:57] <blmm> I was in the process, but that wants to remove "kde" and therefore all packages that were auto-installed with it.
[03:58] <Beowulf> um
[03:58] <ardchoille> Beowulf: With what?
[03:58] <Beowulf> it shouldnt do that
[03:58] <Beowulf> nevermind then
[03:58] <Beowulf> hmmm
[03:58] <blmm> I tried starting Kontact as another user though, and there it looks OK. So something in my user settings.
[03:58] <Beowulf> actually
[03:58] <Beowulf> oh
[03:58] <Beowulf> ok
[03:58] <Beowulf> hang on
[03:58] <Beowulf> ardchoille: my compiz wont compile
[03:59] <ardchoille> Beowulf: I don't use compiz or beryl and never will.
[03:59] <Beowulf> oh
[03:59] <Beowulf> ardchoille: it's unrelated to using it
[04:00] <Beowulf> /usr/lib/libxml2.so: undefined reference to `gzopen64'
[04:00] <Beowulf> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[04:00] <ardchoille> Beowulf: I don't kow anything about compiling. I only use apps that are in the official repos
[04:00] <Beowulf> oh
[04:00] <blmm> Look at that: [Icons] Theme=Locolor in kontactrc...
[04:00] <purpleposeidon> Beowulf: Who are you?
[04:01] <blmm> I wonder how that got there...
[04:01] <ardchoille> blmm: haha
[04:01] <Beowulf> purpleposeidon: who are you?
[04:01] <Beowulf> ardchoille: know how to install apache?
[04:01] <purpleposeidon> I AM PURPLEPOSEDION! And you?
[04:02] <modjo> hi every body!
[04:02] <ardchoille> blmm: blmm That isn't in my kontactrc at all
[04:02] <blmm> OK. That worked. It even respected my current setting of "Monochrome" icons.
[04:02] <ardchoille> Beowulf: No, sorry
[04:02] <Beowulf> I!
[04:02] <modjo> is it posible con access KEXI tables using JAVA?
[04:02] <Beowulf> AM!
[04:02] <Beowulf> BEOWULF!
[04:02] <blmm> Missing icons are pulled from Crystal SVG.
[04:02] <purpleposeidon> !shout
[04:03] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:03] <ardchoille> blmm: Where did you add that ?
[04:03] <blmm> ardchollie: So then the icons in Kontact should really change for you if you change the icon settings.
[04:03] <ardchoille> blmm: There are no icon settings in my kontactrc
[04:03] <Beowulf> !shout| purpleposeidon
[04:03] <ubotu> purpleposeidon: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:03] <Beowulf> :D
[04:03] <blmm> I added nothing intentionally. Something added that setting. I now removed it.
[04:03] <Beowulf> !happy
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about happy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <purpleposeidon> Now now now, don't abuse ubotu too much. :P
[04:04] <Beowulf> !ubotu
[04:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:04] <Beowulf> ?
[04:04] <modjo> is it posible con access KEXI tables using JAVA?...anyone?
[04:04] <Beowulf> !lol
[04:04] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[04:04] <modjo> !kexi
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kexi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:04] <Beowulf> !info kexi
[04:04] <ubotu> kexi: integrated database environment for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.3-0ubuntu5.1 (gutsy), package size 3548 kB, installed size 11032 kB
[04:05] <ardchoille> blmm: When I add that line, it gets removed as soon as kontact closes.. ie, it's not supposed to be there.
[04:05] <Beowulf> !info kexi
[04:05] <Beowulf> !info kexi| modjo
[04:05] <ubotu> modjo: please see above
[04:05] <modjo> yes im seeing
[04:05] <modjo> i got a question
[04:05] <Beowulf> k?
[04:05] <modjo> i KNOW what kexi is
[04:05] <modjo> but i wanna know how to access it using java
[04:05] <modjo> how do i ask that on this channel? or even in google?
[04:06] <blmm> ardchiolle: If you want to edit the file you should probably do it while Kontact is not running, or I would expect that your changes do indeed get overwritten.
[04:06] <Beowulf> !howdy
[04:06] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <Beowulf> ...
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <hydrogen> !bot abuse
[04:06] <ubotu> Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot
[04:06] <Beowulf> !hello
[04:06] <ardchoille> blmm: I did it while kontact wasn't running. Then I opened kontact and closed it and that line got removed.
[04:06] <Beowulf> yay
[04:06] <Beowulf> he's back!
[04:06] <hydrogen> stop spamming.
[04:06] <Beowulf> hydrogen: help me now?
[04:06] <hydrogen> no.
[04:07] <modjo> is it posible con access KEXI tables using JAVA?...anyone?
[04:07] <Beowulf> please
[04:07] <biovore> lol
[04:07] <blmm> Oh. It is supposed to be two lines... See the syntax in the rest of the file.
[04:07] <ardchoille> Beowulf: You'll get kicked out of the channel for that if you make the ops mad
[04:07] <Beowulf> I asked you before and you didn't answer
[04:07] <ardchoille> Who me?
[04:07] <blmm> I just wrote it like that here not to flood the channel.
[04:07] <Beowulf> no
[04:07] <Beowulf> hydrogen
[04:08] <blmm> A wasted effort, apparently ;-)
[04:08] <modjo> is it posible con access KEXI tables using JAVA?...anyone?
[04:08] <ardchoille> blmm: But, kudos to you for digging thru the *r file when you couldn't find an answer, that shows initiative :)
[04:08] <ardchoille> *rc file
[04:09] <blmm> archoille: Well, it was my question to begin with.
[04:10] <Beowulf> !google| modjo
[04:10] <ubotu> modjo: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[04:10] <modjo> how do i ask that on this channel? or even in google?
[04:10] <Beowulf> KEXI tables in JAVA
[04:10] <modjo> :\
[04:10] <Beowulf> ...
[04:12] <ardchoille> Speaking of java.. coffee time
[04:21] <rfmonk> anyone know why alt-tab doesn't change window focus like it did before I installed k
[04:22] <biovore> It dose here..
[04:22] <rfmonk> hmm
[04:22] <moparisthebest> kde you mean rfmonk ?
[04:22] <biovore> compiz?
[04:22] <rfmonk> kubuntu yes kde
[04:22] <moparisthebest> its a setting someplace, not very helpful to you though :/
[04:24] <rfmonk> you'd think it would be in this 'kcontrol' but I haven't found it yet
[04:25] <rfmonk> there is a lot of people in this room.
[04:26] <biovore> Kinda low atm
[04:27] <rfmonk> biovore, were you refering to my conversation when you said compiz?
[04:30] <biovore> nope
[04:39] <ubunturos> !update
[04:39] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:43] <Solifugus> Is there a program for video/voice recording from my webcam?
[04:43] <Solifugus> It works with Skype, but I don't know of any other application to record myself with.
[04:44] <MyNameIsURL> hey all
[04:44] <MyNameIsURL> just installed Feisty
[04:44] <ardchoille> Ok, a friend of mine just plugge her computer into my router. Is it possible to mount her C: drive on kubuntu? I think it's NTFS. Don't want to write anything, just want to mount.
[04:44] <MyNameIsURL> works like a charm
[04:46] <MyNameIsURL> are you using Konqueror as a file manager?
[04:46] <usamahashimi> Hello Everyone!
[04:46] <usamahashimi> How can I install Gtk+ in kubuntu Gusty?
[04:46] <ardchoille> MyNameIsURL: You talking to me?
[04:47] <ardchoille> You gotta be kidding me
[04:47] <ardchoille> I typed smb:/192.168.0.2 into konq and it let me browse. That was easy
[04:48] <MyNameIsURL> how many machines are on your network?
[04:48] <ardchoille> 4
[04:48] <MyNameIsURL> so you can see all her storage devices now?
[04:49] <Solifugus> ardchoille: in konqueror, it's smb://192.168.0.2/....... whatever your share is called..
[04:50] <ardchoille> MyNameIsURL: yes
[04:50] <ardchoille> Solifugus: Yeah, thank you :)
[04:50] <ardchoille> Does that mean I have samba installed and running?
[04:51] <ardchoille> I don't remember installing samba
[04:51] <Solifugus> or.. cifs, not necessarilly samba...
[04:51] <Solifugus> but kde came with what it needed.
[04:51] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[04:51] <ardchoille> Indeed it did
[04:53] <ubunturos> Solifugus: windows (ntfs / vfat) partition are usually accessed samba, isn't it?
[04:53] <ardchoille> Well, it'll browse C:, but it won't let me go into any folders.. keeps asking me for a username/password
[04:54] <Solifugus> ubunturos: samba is for sharing with windows over a tcp/ip network...
[04:54] <ubunturos> Solifugus: ok
[04:54] <Solifugus> ubunturos: ntfs/vfat are filesystems, you can define in your /etc/fstab file..
[04:54] <Solifugus> to mount a partition
[04:55] <ardchoille> It won't let me read any files or open any folders
[04:55] <ubunturos> Solifugus: ok
[04:55] <ardchoille> Could it be because it's NTFS ?
[04:56] <Solifugus> it shouldn't matter, if it's a share over the network...
[04:56] <ubunturos> ardchoille: may be. You probably need to enable write permissions
[04:56] <Solifugus> for writing, yes.. that would matter
[04:56] <ardchoille> ubunturos: It won't let me copy any files over to my kubuntu either
[04:57] <ardchoille> I don't want to write to the Windows share, I just wanted to know if I could read or copy files
[04:57] <ubunturos> ardchoille: you should be able to copy
[04:58] <ardchoille> konq says it can't read any of the files
[04:58] <Solifugus> ardchoille: but it lists them
[04:58] <Solifugus> ?
[04:58] <ardchoille> yes
[04:59] <ardchoille> I can see the files/folders, just can't copy or read anything or cd into folders
[05:00] <ubunturos> ardchoille: hmm, I had the same problem. I allowed write permissions, and then I could copy to and from the folder to my Kubuntu desktop
[05:00] <ubunturos> ardchoille: though, that sounds odd, because, we aren't writing anything, it worked. May be samba is trying to write some temporary file in the background
[05:01] <ardchoille> I remember being able to mount a Windows C: disk on ubuntu Dapper. How is that done?
[05:02] <neville> Don't you need
[05:02] <neville> NTFS-3g
[05:02] <neville> ?
[05:02] <ardchoille> Something like: sudo mount -t ntfs 192.168.0.2:C /mnt/windows
[05:02] <biovore> to read the disk no..
[05:02] <ardchoille> neville: If you're going to write to the windows disk, yes
[05:02] <ubunturos> neville: I didn't have to install ntfs-3g to write files over samba
[05:02] <biovore> mount -t ntfs /dev/<device> /media/<somedir>
[05:02] <neville> Ahh, okay, nevermind then >.>;
[05:03] <ardchoille> biovore: But what is the /dev/<device> ?
[05:03] <ardchoille> biovore: It's thru the router
[05:03] <hydrogen> well
[05:03] <hydrogen> samba is a different beast all together
[05:03] <biovore> you mean samba then.. window share..
[05:04] <ubunturos> hydrogen: hmm, possibly, it hides the file system behind its own "way" of sharing
[05:04] <biovore> apt-get install smbfs
[05:04] <ardchoille> Well, ntfs-3g is installed and I didn't install it. Does Gutsy ship with it?
[05:04] <hydrogen> ubunturos: no, it provides a network filesystem, it has nothing to do with ntfs
[05:05] <ubunturos> hydrogen: hmm, ok
[05:05] <hydrogen> with the small exception that it can write to ntfs
[05:05] <biovore> smbmount //computername/sharename /mount/point/dir -o username=someuser,password=mypassword
[05:05] <ubunturos> hydrogen: ah, ok
[05:13] <ardchoille> I guess this is what I get for not using Windows in 7 years, I don't know how to work it, lol
[05:13] <ubunturos> ardchoille: did enabling write permissions, not work?
[05:14] <ardchoille> I don't even know how to do that
[05:14] <ardchoille> It's not important, I was just curious to see if I could mount/browse
[05:14] <ubunturos> ardchoille: how did you enable sharnig for a folder? (right click, Sharing and Security?)
[05:14] <ardchoille> No idea
[05:14] <ubunturos> (in that windows machine)
[05:15] <ardchoille> It was already done I guess
[05:15] <ardchoille> Oh, she did that.
[05:15] <ubunturos> hmm, ardchoille, it may not have.
[05:15] <ubunturos> ardchoille: windows, might have enabled sharing, by default
[05:15] <ardchoille> That's not smart, IMHO
[05:15]  * ardchoille thinks he's getting ot
[05:16] <ubunturos> ardchoille: hmm, anyway, you can right click on a folder foo and then click on Sharing. There's an option to (a link) to enable file sharing which will give you an option to "just enable file sharing"
[05:19] <ardchoille> ubunturos: That was it, sorted. Thank you very much :)
[05:19] <ubunturos> ardchoille: welcome. /me gets thinking about that mysterious write permission ;)
[05:20] <A2t3can0v3r10rd> can someone tell ubuntu channel reps to see this link as i cant and am banned for life lol___http://madderhatters.blogspot.com/?
[05:22] <ardchoille> ubunturos: Apparently, Gutsy installs ntfs-3g during the initial install because I have it installed but I didn't install it.. this is just the first time I've used it.
[05:22] <kelvie> anyone know how to fix that kopete crashing problem?
[05:22] <kelvie> basically everyone I know that has gutsy has it :/
[05:22] <ardchoille> kelvie: When connecting to msn?
[05:22] <kelvie> ardchoille: yep
[05:22] <kelvie> I sent one of them the deb link
[05:22] <kelvie> for kdelibs
[05:22] <kelvie> and it says a newer version is installed :/
[05:22] <ardchoille> kelvie: sudo apt-get upgrade  (that bug was fixed)
[05:23] <ubunturos> ardchoille: hmm, ok
[05:23] <kelvie> mmm I'll look into it :P
[05:26] <NightBird> hm... whenever I try to get my laptop to go to sleep or hibernate, it fails to fully go into the target state, and just locks up the system
[05:26] <biovore> probably buggy bios with ACPI
[05:27] <NightBird> the linux boot does report a BIOS Bug #81 being found
[05:27] <biovore> probably the problem..
[05:27] <NightBird> I've managed to get it to work before, even when it was reporting it, but since I've done a wipe, I lost whatever modifications they were that worked around the problem
[05:29] <surgy> hello
[05:29] <NightBird> hi
[05:29] <ardchoille> hi surgy
[05:29] <NightBird> biovore: do you know where the scripts are that handle the switching to sleep/hybernate mode?
[05:29] <NightBird> or where to look for it?
[05:30] <NightBird> n/m, found them
[05:31] <surgy> im using a gamemon gamepad converter to convert my playstation controller to usb, so that i can play pSX with the proper gamepad, my problem is that kubuntu recognizes my gamepad as having too few buttons and sets the digital direction pad as an axis, therefore i cant map the digital d-pad as macroes in the emulator, can someone help me please?
[05:33] <ardchoille> surgy: I can't begin to describe how "over my head" that is, lol
[05:33] <surgy> lol
[05:33] <evil-rhino> anyone have an idea how wrap a textfile to 80 characters per line nicely using one wizardish shell command?
[05:34] <surgy> Jucato: i think you might be the one to ask for on my problem, if your available
[05:34] <surgy> evil-rhino: why do you need to do this?
[05:34] <ardchoille> me thinks he's asleep
[05:34] <NightBird> ugh... booting also takes a long time
[05:35] <surgy> ?
[05:35] <surgy> can anyone help me?
[05:36] <biovore> !ask
[05:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:36] <surgy> biovore: i allready did " im using a gamemon gamepad converter to convert my playstation controller to usb, so that i can play pSX with the proper gamepad, my problem is that kubuntu recognizes my gamepad as having too few buttons and sets the digital direction pad as an axis, therefore i cant map the digital d-pad as macroes in the emulator, can someone help me please?
[05:36] <biovore> no clue here.. I don't do that kind of stuff..
[05:37] <ardchoille> surgy must be a die-hard gamer
[05:37] <surgy> lol
[05:37] <ardchoille> If he understands that stuff
[05:37] <surgy> only the old ones that im still adicted to, that no one plays anymore
[05:37] <ardchoille> The older games were great
[05:38] <surgy> well its not hard, there has to be another driver or a config file im missing somewhere
[05:38] <surgy> it should be similar if not the same as configuring a force feedback joystick
[05:39] <ardchoille> surgy: If no one answers here, try thr forums. Lots of folks there too
[05:39] <MilitantPotato> What does Flushed IO / Cached IO do when mounting a partiton?
[05:40] <surgy> ardchoille: how new are you? no ofense but ive been around, thnx for the help though
[05:41] <ardchoille> surgy: I've been using Linux since 2001, ubuntu since 2004. But I don't install anything unless it's in the repos. I've never had any big problems in Linux and that may be why I don't knowhow to fix very much.
[05:41] <Taheton> Hi
[05:41] <daffytheduck> hi there Ive got a problem with tor and privoxy Im using Vidalia to start tor and Im getting the following message despite having everything properly configured "Could not bind to 127.0.0.1:9050: Cannot assign requested address"
[05:41] <ardchoille> hi Taheton
[05:41] <daffytheduck> can anyone help thnx
[05:44] <dthacker> daffytheduck: is there another service running on 9050?
[05:45] <daffytheduck> thats what i was thinking
[05:45] <daffytheduck> i dont know
[05:45] <daffytheduck> ive just updated my wireless network drivers
[05:46] <daffytheduck> and im thinking there could be something goiong on there
[05:46] <dthacker> daffytheduck: did it work *before* you updated the wireless drivers?
[05:46] <daffytheduck> yes
[05:46] <daffytheduck> but i was having the same problem at times b4 I updated
[05:46] <daffytheduck> i but most of the time it was ok
[05:47] <daffytheduck> now i rebooted twice and its the same thing
[05:47] <daffytheduck> im thinking of changing the default port in torrc
[05:47] <dthacker> daffytheduck: is *any* traffic going through the wireless device(s)?
[05:47] <ardchoille> daffytheduck: Could it be the fault of the new wireless drivers? Bad drivers?
[05:47] <daffytheduck> yes
[05:48] <daffytheduck> im tlaking to u now through it
[05:48] <ardchoille> ok
[05:48] <daffytheduck> so its working fine with greater strength than b4
[05:48] <surgy>  im using a gamemon gamepad converter to convert my playstation controller to usb, so that i can play pSX with the proper gamepad, my problem is that kubuntu recognizes my gamepad as having too few buttons and sets the digital direction pad as an axis, therefore i cant map the digital d-pad as macroes in the emulator, can someone help me please?
[05:49] <dthacker> daffytheduck: so the network device works, but the specific port doesn't.  Are you behind a firewall?
[05:49] <daffytheduck> ill try to change the port in torrc   I didnt want to do it b4 because id have to change privoxy config as well
[05:49] <daffytheduck> no im not
[05:49] <daffytheduck> i dont have firestarter installed
[05:50] <NightBird> how would I find out what is causing my laptop to take so long to start up?
[05:50] <dthacker> daffytheduck: there is no router or firewall between you and the internet?
[05:50] <dthacker> NightBird: please define "long"?
[05:50] <NightBird> last message I see on screen one is "kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot..." and then it waits
[05:51] <NightBird> dthacker: about a minute to two minutes
[05:51] <daffytheduck> there is a router but ive got it set up DMZ
[05:51] <NightBird> I can time it next time I restart(which will probably be pretty soon) if you want
[05:52] <daffytheduck> i tried using port 9051 same thing
[05:52] <daffytheduck> I might tru to purge reinstall tor and see how it goes
[05:52] <daffytheduck> try
[05:52] <ardchoille> NightBird: I get that same message (kinit..) but the wait is about 10 seconds
[05:52] <arun_> Hello people. I'd like to know if I can rescue files from a Windows system using the Kubuntu Live CD. I plan on backing up the files from the Windows drive to an external hard disk
[05:53] <dthacker> daffytheduck: verify that you really are DMZ, or put it behind the router and port forward.
[05:53] <arun_> is it possible? and if so, then is it really slow to back up files using a live cd?
[05:53] <NightBird> ardchoille: yeah, I'm guessing it's looking for a suspend image, and when it doesn't find it, it just does a normal boot
[05:53] <dthacker> NightBird: How much RAM?
[05:53] <ardchoille> NightBird: That's what I thought too
[05:53] <daffytheduck> its definately DMZ ive got it set up for this internal IP
[05:53] <posingaspopular> arun_: im pretty sure it is possible, but i haven't tried windows in a while
[05:53] <posingaspopular> Im almost 100 percent sure though.
[05:53] <posingaspopular> duno about speed
[05:54] <NightBird> dthacker: I think it has 256 megs of ram, but 32 megs are shared with the graphics
[05:54] <arun_> posingaspopular: alright, thanks. i havent used windows in a long time too, one of my friends has this problem, so i said i'd try to rescue his files
[05:55] <dthacker> NightBird: that will cost you time on boot.  I have a 384 mb laptop that takes a minute, but my 512mb one is less than a minute.
[05:55] <daffytheduck> yeah i just checked im totally open to the internett
[05:55] <ardchoille> NightBird: Sounds like the amount of ram might make a diff. I have 2Gib ram
[05:55] <NightBird> dthacker: yes, but it normally booted much faster before gutsy, and even in gutsy beta it was booting faster
[05:56] <MilitantPotato> What's the advantages/disadvantages to using Flushed IO over Cached IO
[05:56] <dthacker> daffytheduck: hmmm,   you're going to have to figure out what is stopping you.  Or reverse that driver update.  I think those are your choices.
[05:56] <Creationist> I don't suppose there's a way to totally remove the ubuntu-desktop dependencies, is there?  I regret my decision to install Gnome.
[05:57] <daffytheduck> k
[05:57] <daffytheduck> thnx
[05:57] <ardchoille> !purekde | Creationist
[05:57] <ubotu> Creationist: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[05:57] <daffytheduck> Im trying to reinstall tor now
[05:57] <posingaspopular> arun_: okay good luck
[05:57] <dthacker> ooo, cool.  It's like a utility for buyer's remorse!
[05:57] <Creationist> ardchoille: Although, wouldn't that remove any software I've installed?
[05:58] <ardchoille> Creationist: Have you installed kde (kubuntu-desktop)?
[05:58] <Creationist> ardchoille: I installed Kubuntu 7.10.
[05:58] <Creationist> ardchoille: From the ISO
[05:58] <ardchoille> Creationist: According to that factoid, it only removes gnome stuff
[05:59] <Creationist> ardchoille: I don't care about pure KDE or pure Gnome (they both have applications I like and use).
[05:59] <ardchoille> Creationist: Are you on Gutsy? And installed ubuntu-desktop?
[05:59] <Creationist> Eh well... I guess it's not a HUGE deal except that now my menus are cluttered with applications that do the exact same thing but for different desktops.
[05:59] <Creationist> ardchoille: Correct.
[06:00] <ardchoille> Creationist: as of Edgy, apt-get has a new option, it's "--auto-remove" and it removes dependencies that are no longer needed. So, I assume "sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove ubuntu-desktop" would take out ubuntu-desktop and all its deps.
[06:00] <Zombocom> hello
[06:01] <Zombocom> I need to add video modes because I know my card can support them
[06:01] <Zombocom> and the drivers can as well
[06:01] <Zombocom> I know I'm supposed to add it to the xorg.conf
[06:01] <Creationist> ardchoille: --autoremove removes dependencies that aren't being used... but now that all the applications are installed, they're all being used ;)
[06:01] <Zombocom> but
[06:01] <Zombocom> is it
[06:01] <neville> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:01] <neville> ?
[06:02] <arun_> does the k/ubuntu feisty live cd automatically mount the windows drives?
[06:02] <ardchoille> Creationist: But if you remove ubuntu-desktop, then its deps are no longer being used
[06:02] <Creationist> true
[06:03] <ardchoille> Creationist: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package, it's empty. All it does is serve to "pull in" the gnome desktop and all its deps.
[06:04] <ardchoille> Creationist: You can try it, it'l remove a lot of stuff but will ask for confirmatio before it removes anything
[06:05] <MyNameIsURL> hey, is Beryl included in Feisty Fawn?
[06:05] <ardchoille> MyNameIsURL: In Ubuntu, yes. In Kubuntu, no
[06:05] <ardchoille> !beryl
[06:05] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[06:05] <NightBird> I was wrong, my laptop is operating off of.... 478mb of ram....
[06:06] <MyNameIsURL> aaaah. OK thx
[06:06] <MyNameIsURL> I want to install Compiz then
[06:06] <ardchoille> MyNameIsURL: Wait, you said Feisty? I'm wrong, my info was about Gutsy
[06:06] <arun_> anyone?
[06:06] <Creationist> Hmm.. in Compiz, what is the middle mouse button (in terms of setting mouse events)?
[06:06] <NightBird> (that's with the ram for video is taken out)
[06:06] <ardchoille> !compiz | MyNameIsURL
[06:06] <ubotu> MyNameIsURL: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:06] <MyNameIsURL> ok thankys
[06:08] <ardchoille> 'It can get confusing having 4 releases being supported at the same time
[06:08] <surgy>  im using a gamemon gamepad converter to convert my playstation controller to usb, so that i can play pSX with the proper gamepad, my problem is that kubuntu recognizes my gamepad as having too few buttons and sets the digital direction pad as an axis, therefore i cant map the digital d-pad as macroes in the emulator, can someone help me please?
[06:10] <Rukus> anyone know how to stop my monitor from shutting off on my laptop after 10 minutes? i cant change it in the normal monitor settings. i think its an xorg / fglrx problem
[06:10] <Rukus> its kind of annoying when watching movies
[06:11] <ardchoille> Rukus: You already check "Monitor & Display" in kde control centre?
[06:11] <Rukus> yah, it doesnt work
[06:11] <ardchoille> ok
[06:11] <kelvie> xset -dpms; xset s off
[06:11] <kelvie> will make sure it's off
[06:11] <Rukus> yah its off
[06:11] <NightBird> boot time is: 3 minutes, 49 seconds...
[06:12] <Rukus> so now what do i do
[06:12] <ardchoille> NightBird: not to offend or anything, but why reboot? Linux doesn't need to be rebooted unless you're doing kernel work.
[06:14] <Rukus> any ideas?
[06:14] <ardchoille> I suppose one could install kubuntu and run the computer without rebooting until the nest kubuntu release provided there's no kernel upgrade
[06:14] <NightBird> ardchoille: or when acpi stuff doesn't work
[06:14] <ardchoille> ok
[06:14] <NightBird> and I'm trying to get that to either work, or have to shutdown my computer when not in use
[06:15] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[06:20] <NightBird> well... I just disabled the splash screen and the boot speed is fixed..
[06:20] <MyNameIsURL> thanks for the help
[06:20] <MyNameIsURL> I'm outs. Need some sleep
[06:22] <blmm> Where can I change the "open with..." file bindings for "unknown" files? There is an entry in there that I would like to remove. If I click the little wrench icon for such a file, the dialog that pops up has the title "application/x-kdeuser1". This dialog lists no actions. I suspect there might be an "application/x-kdeuser" (without the '1') but that is not in the file types settings.
[06:23] <Rukus> :(
[06:25] <NightBird> how do I tell ubuntu to not scan my windows drive on startup?
[06:26] <emilsedgh> blmm: Konqueror Settings
[06:26] <emilsedgh> blmm: Konqueror->Settings->configure Konqueror->File Associations
[06:26] <blmm> Yes, but I can't find the appropriate file type.
[06:27] <blmm> I just did though.
[06:27] <blmm> It is application/octet-stream.
[06:27] <blmm> Though there is no hint when right-clicking on the file that it is classified as such.
[06:28] <blmm> The setting is in /.kde/share/applnk/.hidden
[06:29]  * NightBird found it... and now I go to bed
[06:31] <blmm> Thanks anyway! I must have right-clicked on some file and said I wanted it opened by kwrite, that got associated to octet-stream and there was no hint what happened. And you can only search by file extension in the GUI.
[06:42] <Zombocom> yo
[06:42] <Zombocom> how do I reconfigure xorg?
[06:43] <Zombocom> you all = gay if you don't answer my question
[06:43] <Zombocom> because it's so damn simple
[06:43] <Zombocom> come on
[06:43] <Zombocom> I serously need help
[06:43] <neville> I thought I told you before
[06:43] <neville> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:43] <ardchoille> Zombocom: Please be respectful of people here, your attitude will dictate whether or not anyone answers :)
[06:43] <neville> Manners please
[06:44] <Jucato> !patience | Zombocom
[06:44] <ubotu> Zombocom: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:44] <ardchoille> I was going to answer but changed my mind after that "gay" comment
[06:44] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:44] <bazhang> Zombocom: see above
[06:45] <neville> -_-v
[06:45] <Jucato> neville: don' you mean -_-;
[06:45] <neville> No
[06:45] <ardchoille> Jucato: Thought you'd be asleep about now
[06:45] <neville> I personally reckon v looks better than ;
[06:45] <Jucato> 2:45pm :)
[06:45] <ardchoille> d'oh!
[06:46] <ardchoille> I hate time zones
[06:47] <Zombocom> oh thanks neville
[06:47] <Zombocom> I had to restart my computer
[06:47] <Zombocom> it went psycho on me because I stopped the process
[06:47] <Zombocom> how do I resume a stopped process?
[06:47] <Zombocom> (the other thing was a dare
[06:48] <Dragonath> something's messed up with my thunderbird - after update to gutsy (was feisty before) some mails show up in the list but give an error when you try to open them - is this common?
[07:04] <sailor> still having problems with "fetch updates" in feisty. Does anyone else have any ideas on why it keeps crashing? I have replaced sources.list file, uninstalled and purged adept-manager and re-installed it again. Nothing seems to work :/
[07:10] <ardchoille> sailor: Does it work if you use apt-get?
[07:11] <snowdonkey> Hi.  I'm trying to access a windows partition on a remote machine using SSH but I can't write to the directories.  What do I need to do?
[07:11] <sailor> ardchoille: yeah apt-get is fine update and upgrade are ok - system is fully up to date. I want to be able to do a dist upgrade using the button in Adept-Manager.
[07:11] <apparle> how to install helix player with the .bin file
[07:11] <sailor> ardchoille: whenever i click "fetch updates" which is supposed to give me that option, adept-manager dies.
[07:11] <ardchoille> sailor: Oh, ok. I don't know, I never use adept_* I just wanted to make sure your APT was working
[07:17] <apparle> any body knows how t play rmvb files
[07:17] <bazhang> real player
[07:19] <apparle> bazhang : and how t install it
[07:19] <bazhang> !real
[07:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:20] <apparle> bazhang: I got te bin file and used ./filename.bin
[07:20] <bazhang> go to real com and then follow their instructions--will have to use command line
[07:21] <apparle> bazhang : I get "No such file or directory"
[07:21] <bazhang> apparle: where are you running the command from? you need to be in the same folder
[07:22] <apparle> bazhang: I am  in te folder and can execte other commands like renaming the file
[07:23] <bazhang> apparle: the commands are case sensitive--REALPLAYER10 etc
[07:23] <apparle> bazhang: I have taken care of te case
[07:24] <bazhang> apparle: and you followed the instructions on the real home page?
[07:25] <apparle> bazhang: Isn't there a .deb file for gutsy or a plugin for kaffiene
[07:26] <bazhang> apparle: not sure there--ubuntuforums.org might have the answer to that--bin file compiled fine here.
[07:30] <sailor> everyone; i found a solution. I had to copy MIT cookie and merge it to user root. Then i could (as root "su -i") run adept_manager --version-upgrade
[07:30] <sailor> seems the problem is that the script couldnt connect to DISPALY=0:0
[07:30] <jussi01> apparle: this page has instructions for realplayer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealPlayerInstallationMethods
[07:30] <surgy> fixed my gamepad :)
[07:31] <ardchoille> surgy: Yay!
[07:31] <surgy> guess how?
[07:31] <surgy> i unplugged it went to mcdonald's and came back and plugged it into a different usb :) now its perfect
[07:31] <ardchoille> hahaha
[07:31] <surgy> lol
[07:31] <surgy> was racking my brain there for a min
[07:32] <ardchoille> surgy: Sounds like you may have a defective usb port
[07:32] <surgy> now its time for some tomb raider 1 :)
[07:32] <surgy> nah
[07:32] <bazhang> Mcgamepad!
[07:32] <ardchoille> surgy: That's my favourite game!
[07:32] <surgy> i think the driver just needed to be reset, or the adress changed or something
[07:34] <sn00zer> my ~ char looks the same as my - to me, is this a font issue?
[07:35] <surgy> yerp
[07:35] <surgy> a font issue
[07:35] <apparle> how to install ati drivers on gutsy
[07:36] <surgy> what kind of monitor do you have?
[07:36] <surgy> !ati apparle
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati apparle - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <surgy> !ati
[07:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:36] <sn00zer> surgy: how do i find out what font is missing?
[07:37] <apparle> what is te diffrence between real player adn helix player
[07:40] <newguyss> hi, is there any program I can use to change image format?
[07:41] <apparle> surgy: i don't have net at my computer so tell me which packages to download  for ATI drivers
[07:44] <jussi01> newguyss: just install gimp
[07:45] <apparle> i don't have net at my computer so tell me which packages to download for ATI drivers
[07:45] <jussi01> !repeat > apparle
[07:46] <fontane> does anyone know a keystroke recording program?
[07:51] <se7en_> newguyss: have a look at this www.acetoneteam.org/ works fine for me
[07:53] <jussi01> fontane: why would you need one?
[07:53] <newguyss> thanks guys
[07:53] <newguyss> :)
[07:53] <fontane> jussi01: for nefarious reasons i may not bespeak
[07:54] <bazhang> o4o
[07:54] <ardchoille> fontane: This is not the place to ask about things like that.
[07:54] <fontane> ardchoille: security reasons actually
[07:54] <jussi01> !o4o | fontane
[07:54] <ubotu> fontane: Some things are inappropriate for #kubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[07:56] <smax> http://24.229.180.251/funny.jpg
[07:57] <ibert> Is there a HowTo for installing Skype in gutsy (32bit)?
[07:57] <apparle> is there an offline dictionary
[08:00] <apparle> is there any dictionary like wordweb fo linux
[08:00] <jussi01> apparle: wht is word web?
[08:02] <[FG]TNT> hi
[08:02] <apparle> jussi01: It is a dictionary for windows and is superb
[08:02] <[FG]TNT> PL?
[08:02] <jussi01> !pl
[08:02] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:02] <[FG]TNT> jest ktoś z polski?
[08:02] <[FG]TNT> mam pytanie
[08:02] <jussi01> [FG]TNT: only english here
[08:02] <jussi01> [FG]TNT: go to #ubuntu-pl
[08:03] <jussi01> apparle: have a look in add/remove - there are lots of dictionries...
[08:05] <apparle> jussi01: i don't have net at my pc so can't get them
[08:05] <jussi01> apparle: is there no way you can ge net to it? at least for setting stuff up its quite important...
[08:06] <apparle> jussi01: No
[08:06] <ardchoille> apparle: Without a internet connection, even if you downloaded an app, you'll likely run into dependency problems. Rarely do you need just one package for something of moderate feature set.
[08:08] <apparle> ardchoille: Don't you remember you solved that problem for me by helping me make a list of all installed dependencies
[08:08] <apparle> anyway: Tell me the name of sme poplar dictionaries
[08:08] <ardchoille> I don't know of any off-line dictionaries
[08:09] <bazhang> websters
[08:09] <ardchoille> Ok, now I know one, lol
[08:09] <bazhang> really offline :}
[08:09] <apparle> bazhang: is it available for linux
[08:10] <ardchoille> apparle: It's a paperback book
[08:10] <bazhang> apparle: I would guess so, though there are online dictionaries that are not os-specific
[08:10] <apparle> where to get it
[08:10] <bazhang> apparle: the digital one?
[08:11] <apparle> yes
[08:12] <bazhang> apparle: to install, or view on the web?
[08:13] <apparle> bazhang: obviously to install as I donot have net at home
[08:14] <bazhang> apparle: I'm not sure how you can install it without net access--what did you have in mind for this dictionary?
[08:14] <bazhang> ie translation, etc.
[08:16] <apparle> bazhang: I will download the .deb file and dependencies. I want it to lookup difficult words in end while reading ebooks. I want eng to eng dict.
[08:16] <bazhang> apparle: for translation stardict is nice--though again without net access not sure how you plan on installing it--doing it a usb key and transferring it over would mean severe risk of dependency probs
[08:17] <ibert> I'm having a problem with Nvidia Geforce FX 5200. With gutsy, there are no VT's (worked fine with dapper). Neither with the binary driver nor with the nv driver. Another Problem is at Startup that the login Screen doesn't appear alone. I have to press "Ctrl-Alt-Delete" and then XServer restarts and the graphic-logon appears. Does anybody have an idea?
[08:17] <bazhang> apparle: you can look at packages.ubuntu.com
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> ibert: you could use login convenience in System Settings ;)
[08:18] <ardchoille> apparle: The problem is how do you know what the deps are? And, once you get the app to a diff computer, will you be lissing things on that box that you already had on the downloading box?
[08:19] <apparle> bazhang: i donot want to translate. i want English meanings of difficult english word and I will take care of dependencies. Don't worry about it
[08:19] <bazhang> apparle: ok--again, I would heed ardchoille's words on dependencies--a pandora's box waiting to happen there.
[08:21] <ardchoille> Right. Suppose appA needs depA1 and depA2. But the box you're downloading it on has depA1 and depA2, but the box at home (without internet) doesn't have those deps. You'll get home and realise you have to go back. How many apps are you going to have to do that for?
[08:23] <ardchoille> I suppose you could download all possible deps for every app you want and then take it all home on a dvd, but you could end up talking about hundreds of packages. That will consume a lot of time.
[08:24] <apparle> ardchoille: At home i make a list of dependencies on my home in  a text file. next i go to site and check which dep i have and which I donot have. By the way you only solved my problem by telling the command to make a list of installed packages on a PC
[08:25] <ardchoille> Ah, ok. That'll work if you're willing to go that route.
[08:26] <ardchoille> apparle: Also, is the download box yours?
[08:26] <stdin> apparle: at home do "apt-get --print-uris install <package>" to get a list of all the packages you need to download and what to save them as, then take that somewhere with net access and save, then move to /var/cache/apt/archives/ and "apt-get install <package>" at home
[08:27] <apparle> No it is a public box with Windows XP
[08:28] <ardchoille> apparle: If so, it'd be a whole lot easier and faster to just install all the apps you want on the download box, use PartImage to make an image of the root partition (takes about 10 minutes), burn that image to a dvd, take it home and install the image on the home box (takes about 10 minutes) so both boxes are identical.
[08:28] <ardchoille> ok
[08:28] <ardchoille> I use that method to make all 11 of my machines identical.
[08:28] <tv_> I'm trying to run BZFlag in kubuntu and get the error listed here.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45202/  Anyone with any help would be appriciated.
[08:28] <bazhang> nice
[08:29] <ardchoille> That way I only have to install and setup Kubuntu on the first box.
[08:29] <bazhang> nicer
[08:30] <ardchoille> Trust me, if there's a way to make things easier (and me lazier) I'll find it, lol
[08:30] <ayako> hi
[08:30] <bazhang> hehe
[08:30] <ayako> need serious help
[08:30] <apparle> both of you please tell me about the dictionary name and I will see the rest. By the way the download box is a college box with windows XP
[08:31] <ayako> in the add/remove programs
[08:31] <ayako> i get this message
[08:32] <ayako> aptitude or apt-get in use by another program, close that first,
[08:32] <apparle> ayako : Are you running adept
[08:32] <ayako> then when i try to i need a higher superlevel username
[08:32] <JackWinter> hiya, anyone know how to give jackd rt privs, starting it from qjackctl?
[08:32] <ayako> yes
[08:33] <ayako> i was using it to download programs for software development
[08:33] <bazhang> apparle: the only dictionary name I can see in apt-cache search is ydpdict--which is an interface for collins dictionaries
[08:33] <ardchoille> ayako: You can only run one package manager at a time. Close all others and try again.
[08:33] <bazhang> ie not translation
[08:33] <stdin> ayako: you can only have one package management application open at once
[08:33] <ayako> but did not complete and closed it
[08:33] <apparle> ayako: As stdin said
[08:34] <ayako> since then i get that message
[08:34] <ardchoille> !fixadept
[08:34] <stdin> !aptfix | ayako, use this command in konsole
[08:34] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[08:34] <ubotu> ayako, use this command in konsole: please see above
[08:34] <apparle> bazhang: ydpdict is surely offline???
[08:34] <ayako> how can i do a dpkg --configure -a
[08:35] <ardchoille> ayako: in a terminal
[08:35] <stdin> ayako: just copy and paste everything between '«' and '»'
[08:35] <ayako> thank you
[08:36] <ayako> you people are the best
[08:36] <ayako> i tried to ask my uni IT technician he said not uni computer cannot do anything
[08:37] <ayako> i need to go for now just woke up
[08:37] <ayako> plus theres something i got do
[08:37] <ayako> i will let you guys know what happens
[08:37] <ayako> see you later
[08:37] <JackWinter> anyone know where i can get some help for qjackctl & jackd running under kubuntu?
[08:39] <apparle> any one can help me about ati drivers
[08:39] <bazhang> apparle: wordnet seems to be what you are looking for; check this thread--http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=598282
[08:40] <ardchoille> !ati | apparle
[08:40] <ubotu> apparle: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:41] <JackWinter> i have linux-rt installed, but when i try to start jackd from qjackctl with rt support i get the following msg: cannot use real-time scheduling (FIFO at priority 10) [for thread -1210336576, from thread -1210336576] (1: Operation not permitted)
[08:42] <arash> JackWinter, Im not experienced , but at the sounds of 'Operation not permitted' it sounds like if you have to be root or something
[08:42] <JackWinter> i suppose it means that i need root privileges to gain access to the kernel?
[08:42] <apparle> ardchoille: You know my problem (no internet) tell me what to do for ati drivers
[08:42] <JackWinter> arash: i get the same feeling.
[08:43] <arash> JackWinter: so gksu doesn't work :p?
[08:43] <ardchoille> apparle: I don't know what to tell you about that, dude, you really need internet access.
[08:44] <ibert> I'm having a problem with Nvidia Geforce FX 5200. With gutsy, there are no VT's (worked fine with dapper). Neither with the binary driver nor with the nv driver. Another Problem is at Startup that the login Screen doesn't appear alone. I have to press "Ctrl-Alt-Delete" and then XServer restarts and the graphic-logon appears. Does anybody have an idea?
[08:44] <JackWinter> don't know what it is.  used to run freebsd some years ago, but a lot has changed since then.  i'll go experiment with gksu ;-)
[08:45] <arash> JackWinter: you type 'gksu <application-name>'  and then the application will run with root privileges, gksu can be replaced with gksudo, But I'm a noob really :), dont expect it to work hehe, well I gotta go to school now
[08:45] <apparle> ardchoille: I managed to get it done on feisty. How to do it on gutsy
[08:45] <se7en__> ibert: that
[08:45] <se7en__> strange i have the same card
[08:46] <JackWinter> gksu seems not to be in my path, nor do i find a man entry for it?  please excuse i installed kubuntu for the first time last night. alot to learn...
[08:46] <JackWinter> thanks arash
[08:46] <apparle> how to get kaffiene play diffrent video formats on gutsy
[08:46] <arash> JackWinter: did it work :D ?
[08:47] <bazhang> apparle: with or without net access?
[08:48] <apparle> bazhang: Isn't it obvious without net tell mewhich.deb
[08:49] <bazhang> apparle: care to join me in #kubuntu-offtopic?
[08:49] <arash> JackWinter: Either way I really hope it did :p since I have to be at school in ten minutes XD
[08:49] <JackWinter> arash: installing as we chat ;-)
[08:50] <JackWinter> thanks alot arash
[08:50] <arash> JackWinter: ok, REALLY leaving now :)
[08:51] <ibert> se7en__: and you don't have these problems?
[08:51] <apparle> bazhang: how to ? I don't know how to use IRC network
[08:51] <bazhang> apparle type /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:52] <ibert> se7en__: could you paste your kernel arguments?
[08:52] <se7en__> ibert: how do i do that?
[08:54] <ibert> cat /boot/grub/menu.lst|grep kernel
[08:54] <ibert> then you see the kernel lines of your boot proces. mark and copy the first line
[08:55] <ibert> and paste it in http://pastebin.com/
[08:57] <se7en__> ibert: http://pastebin.com/m6953479
[08:57] <ibert> se7en__: thanx
[08:58] <ibert> se7en__: you don't have these problems I have?
[09:00] <se7en__> ibert: no problems here works out of the box with nv and nvidia install is no problem
[09:00] <ibert> se7en__: DVI or VGA?
[09:01] <apparle> how to install latest ATI drivers from ati.amd.com on gutsy.  there is nothing here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:01] <JackWinter> how do i  run this command with gksu: gksu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P50 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18gksu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P50 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18
[09:01] <JackWinter> something is wrong with my syntax?
[09:03] <bazhang> in kubuntu is gksu?
[09:03] <bazhang> I thought it was kdesu
[09:05] <JackWinter> i was told to get gksu?  should i try kdesu?  i thin there is something wrong with my syntax, maybe a parameter or quotes  missing
[09:06] <bazhang> gksu is for ubuntu I believe (gnome)
[09:06] <stdin> and you pasted the command twice
[09:06] <bazhang> as far as the rest, I'd wait for an expert opinion
[09:07] <JackWinter> thanks, will try kdesu
[09:07] <JackWinter> yes twice, but it's the second line i'm trying to exec
[09:07] <JackWinter> gksu /usr/bin etc.
[09:08] <stdin> JackWinter: it'd be "gksu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P50 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o1" not "gksu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P50 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o1gksu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P50 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o1"
[09:08] <spiroo> Sorry I ask again on this channel, but I think the problem is grub/kubuntu. When I restart my computer monitor sometimes blinks directly and sometimes it starts to blink when grub shall start. It always happens when rebooting and if I then shut power off and wait awhile it works. I am not sure if it is power supply, monitor, graphics or software.
[09:08] <stdin> add an 8 on the end actually :p
[09:09] <aasi> where is the keymap for ubuntu found?
[09:09] <aasi> in /etc somewhere?
[09:10] <JackWinter> stdin: that's what i tried wo the quotes.  my keyboard is very sensitive.  still have to set that up it seems.
[09:10] <spiroo> I want to know if I shall remove Kubuntu or buy some piece of hardware
[09:11] <aasi> would anyone be able to tell me right quick?
[09:11] <aasi> !keymap
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keymap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <aasi> !keyboard
[09:11] <ubotu> To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[09:11] <spiroo> When I come to operative system there is no problem, except that sometimes picture freeze on monitor when I watch video in Kaffeine
[09:13] <spiroo> This problem when monitor blinks happen most repeatedly after I installed Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy.
[09:14] <JackWinter> ok got it. "kdesu -c "/usr/bin/jackd -R -P0 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18" "  thanks alot for the help
[09:15] <spiroo> Would appreciate if someone know anything :)
[09:19] <spiroo> There is around 300 persons here, does not anyone know?
[09:19] <JackWinter> is there a way to run kdesu -c wo using quotes around the command? the problem is that i use an app called qjackctl, to start jackd, and i don't seem to be able to get the last quote parsed in.  means that kdesu will pick up arguments of jackd as its own..
[09:21] <apparle> !codec
[09:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:21] <stdin> JackWinter: just take off the -c
[09:22] <bazhang> spiroo: have you checked at ubuntuforums.org? while someone may not know at the moment, that is a good place to start
[09:23] <JackWinter> if i  try "kdesu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P0 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18 " then kdesu  will complain about an invalid argument -R
[09:23] <stdin> JackWinter: you can also try: kdesu -- command --with -args
[09:24] <spiroo> bazhang, Do you have to be a member there?
[09:26] <bazhang> spiroo: to post yes; to browse no--very easy and free to join though
[09:27] <bazhang> spiroo: 90% of problems I have I get them fixed there--the remaining ones I come here for--very informative site
[09:31] <JackWinter> if i  try "kdesu /usr/bin/jackd -R -P0 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18 " then kdesu  will complain about an invalid argument -R
[09:31] <JackWinter> disregard above please.
[09:32] <JackWinter> I guess i have to go and study ;-)  is there a root account in ubuntu?
[09:32] <waylandbill> !root
[09:32] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:32] <Navi00> Woooo! Go Kubuntu! Yeah!
[09:33] <waylandbill> the answer is yes. There is a root account. There pretty much has to be. That doesn't mean it's use is necessarily needed.
[09:34] <WaltzingAlong> JackWinter: otherwise kdesu "/usr/bin/jackd -R -P0 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18"
[09:34] <WaltzingAlong> its*
[09:37] <skurakai> hi. i'am beginner with kubuntu. can you help me?
[09:38] <bazhang> skurakai: what's your question?
[09:38] <skurakai> i try change default OS in grub but it send me some error code
[09:38] <JackWinter> ok, guess i'm still confused from my freebsd days, where i was root occasionally.  i can live with sudo ;-)
[09:38] <skurakai> help.ubuntu.com/community/grubhowto/changedefaultos
[09:39] <skurakai> this manual doesn't work :(
[09:39] <ardchoille> JackWinter: There is a root account, but it's disabled. Because of the sudo model, logging into the root account is really not necessary
[09:41] <skurakai> can you help me?
[09:41] <skurakai> terminal wrote me: cp: cannot stat `/boot/grub/menu.1st': No such file or directory
[09:41] <skurakai> i try backup menu.1st
[09:41] <Jucato> skurakai: it's menu.lst not menu.1st
[09:41] <JackWinter> tried the following: "sudo /usr/bin/jackd -R -P0 -dalsa -dhw:0,0 -r44100 -p4096 -n2 -i18 -o18", the result was: "cannot use real-time scheduling (FIFO at priority 0) [for thread -1237984368, from thread -1237984368] (22: Invalid argument)" i'm pretty sure the cmaand is correct for jackd.  since sudo did not complain i'm pretty sure it was executed as superuser.  any ideas?
[09:42] <Jucato> skurakai: that's a small letter L
[09:42] <skurakai> oh my god :D
[09:42] <skurakai> i'am lamer
[09:42] <ardchoille> lol
[09:46] <WaltzingAlong> menu list not menu first
[09:46] <sjck> anyone got ut3? :P
[09:47] <bazhang> sjck: the game?
[09:47] <sjck> yea
[09:47] <bazhang> problems with wine?
[09:48] <sjck> nah, I dont even got it.. but a friend said you cant change controls in menu wonder if thats true
[09:48] <sjck> google helps shit :/
[09:48] <skurakai> thanks all - i try update my grub :)
[09:49] <JackWinter> any idea where to go for help with qjackctl, jackd & linux-rt in kubuntu?
[09:49] <bazhang> please watch the language sjck
[09:49] <sjck> that was too foul? :<
[09:49] <bazhang> JackWinter: perhaps in #linuxhelp?
[09:50] <bazhang> yep
[09:50] <JackWinter> what server?
[09:50] <bazhang> !irc
[09:50] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[09:51] <bazhang> not sure there JackWinter but likely this one
[09:51] <smorg> Hi, I'm running gentoo with kde and am trying to get sudo set up so that it works with similar behavior as it does with ubuntu. Is there a place to find those sudoers config files? or how ubuntu generates them?
[09:51] <newguyss> hi, is there any tool I can use to georeference images?
[09:52] <bazhang> smorg: have you asked in #gentoo?
[09:52] <JackWinter> thanks bazhang!
[09:52] <bazhang> no problem :}
[09:52] <se7en_> JackWinter: i think in mediaubuntu or studio 64 jackd is enabled by default
[09:52] <smorg> no, I checked all the gentoo wikis and sudo documentation. I guess I could just learn the sudo config syntax. (sounds like fun!)
[09:52] <bazhang> newguyss: what do you mean by geo reference images?
[09:53] <Jucato> smorg: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disable_root_password_and_gain_su_sudo_with_no_password
[09:53] <Jucato> the bottom instructins
[09:53] <bazhang> smorg: it's not too hard--believe me :}
[09:53] <smorg> sweet :D
[09:53] <JackWinter> se7en: i just installed kubuntu, am not gonna give up that easy ;-)
[09:54] <Jucato> smorg: you also have to setup kdesu to use sudo instead of su
[09:54] <bazhang> JackWinter: ubuntu studio might have it all by default as well
[09:55] <newguyss> bazhang: to use the image as map it needs to be geo referenced.
[09:55] <bazhang> newguyss: ok--so like google earth?
[09:56] <newguyss> not exactly, but similar, I have image and when I gdlainfo the image i done get geo referencing
[09:56] <newguyss> the geo referenced images returns something like that
[09:56] <newguyss> Corner Coordinates:
[09:56] <newguyss> Upper Left  ( -79.0000000,  25.0000000) ( 79d 0'0.00"W, 25d 0'0.00"N)
[09:56] <newguyss> Lower Left  ( -79.0000000,  23.0000000) ( 79d 0'0.00"W, 23d 0'0.00"N)
[09:58] <ayako> hi
[10:00] <apparle> anybody has foxconn motherboard here
[10:01] <Lamartin> hi all. Can anybody help me with a replication issue with (k) ubuntu ?
[10:03] <WaltzingAlong> Lamartin: which is
[10:03] <ayako> anyone know where i can download clisp and freemind and emacs for kubuntu
[10:03] <WaltzingAlong> ayako: freemind from freemind.sf.net
[10:03] <Jucato> !info freemind
[10:03] <WaltzingAlong> !find emacs
[10:04] <ubotu> Package freemind does not exist in gutsy
[10:04] <ubotu> Found: emacs-goodies-el, emacsen-common, acl2-emacs, aleph-emacs, cxref-emacs (and 53 others)
[10:04] <Jucato> oh I see
[10:04] <Lamartin> WaltzingAlong: i have an Ubuntu model machine. I am used to rsync that model machines on many identical target machines (using rsync)
[10:04] <Lamartin> WaltzingAlong: it worked fine with debian
[10:04] <ayako> where do type !find freemind and !find emacs
[10:04] <Lamartin> WaltzingAlong: now, with (k)ubuntu, the boot process stops at "Starting kernel log daemon"
[10:05] <WaltzingAlong> ayako: right here. just put them at the front of the lines. HOWEVER use /msg ubotu !find freemind
[10:05] <ardchoille> ayako: In your irc client
[10:05] <WaltzingAlong> !msgthebot | ayako
[10:05] <ubotu> ayako: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[10:05] <Lamartin> WaltzingAlong: (i changed the UUID settings in /etc/fstab)
[10:05] <apparle> anybody good at handling sound problems
[10:06] <Lamartin> WaltzingAlong: can u help me ?
[10:06] <WaltzingAlong> Lamartin: if you think the issue is the uuid, you could run blkid to get the uuid numbers or just revert back to /dev/sda1 and the like
[10:07] <Lamartin> WaltzingAlong: no, i am 100% sure it's not an UUID issue
[10:08] <ayako> i have problem listening to music with headphones
[10:08] <Lamartin> WaltzingAlong: if i skip that step (exit 0 in the init.d/klogd file), next process would result in the same "freeze" (boot process, not machine)
[10:09] <WaltzingAlong> Lamartin: i do not know
[10:09] <Lamartin> WaltzingAlong: ok, thanks anyway
[10:10] <ayako> the laptop speaker is being used can not hear anything with headphones
[10:13] <ayako> guys
[10:14] <ayako> anybody there
[10:14] <bazhang> hi
[10:14] <ayako> i know anyone is busy
[10:15] <ayako> but im new to kubuntu
[10:15] <apparle> how to install modem
[10:15] <bazhang> ayako: try launching alsamixer from Konsole
[10:15] <ayako> how
[10:15] <ayako> what is the code
[10:15] <apparle> ayako: alsamixer
[10:15] <bazhang> ayako: open the Konsole and type alsamixer
[10:16] <ayako> got it
[10:16] <ayako> now what\
[10:16] <bazhang> ayako: what is your sound card?
[10:16] <apparle> how to install an internal modem
[10:16] <ayako> VIA 8237
[10:17] <bazhang> apparle: hardware?
[10:17] <apparle> HSP70
[10:17] <bazhang> ayako: is that onboard or pci
[10:17] <ayako> chip is Realtek ALC655 rev 0
[10:17] <bazhang> pci then
[10:17] <bazhang> apparle: hardware or software?
[10:17] <ayako> on board
[10:18] <bazhang> oops
[10:18] <bazhang> ayako: what does aplay -l say?
[10:19] <ayako> nothing
[10:19] <apparle> bazhang: my friend installed gutsy yesterday. We opened KPPP and in 'modem panel' when we 'query modem' msg "unable to open modem"
[10:19] <ayako> just '' > ''
[10:21] <JackWinter> any idea which channel is for supporting jack under ubuntu>
[10:22] <apparle> bazhang: my friend installed gutsy yesterday. We opened KPPP and in 'modem panel'. When we 'query modem' msg "unable to open modem"
[10:22] <bazhang> ayako: so card is not recognized--just a moment, finding the proper link
[10:22] <ayako> is there anything i can do
[10:22] <ayako> thank you very very much
[10:22] <bazhang> apparle: without net access again?
[10:24] <apparle> bazhang: first> this is my friend's problem not mine, second> trying to get net access by installing modem
[10:25] <stdin> apparle: seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto ?
[10:26] <se7en_> JackWinter: #ubuntustudio, #ubuntustudio-es and #ubuntustudio-fr on irc.freenode.net
[10:27] <stdin> you are on irc.freenode.net
[10:27] <neville> Hey, I have a winmodem
[10:28] <neville> Not the same type as yours
[10:28] <neville> But
[10:28] <neville> I used this tool
[10:28] <ayako> bazhang: you know alot about ubuntu/kubuntu
[10:28] <omnag> Bonjour à tous !
[10:28] <stdin> !fr
[10:28] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:29] <bazhang> ayako: not really--just know how to search ubuntuforums.org and google :} 90% of problems solved there
[10:29] <omnag> thanks ;)
[10:30] <ayako> still you need to be able to use the right search terms/phrases
[10:30] <ayako> to get any kind of result
[10:30] <neville> http://132.68.73.235/linmodems/index.html#scanModem
[10:30] <omnag> can someone help me please ?
[10:30] <stdin> omnag: you have to ask a question first
[10:31] <bazhang> ayako: they seem to be eluding me for the moment--will check for a bit longer--so excuse my absence :}
[10:31] <omnag> ok
[10:31] <Chimplato> hi
[10:31] <ayako> no thank you for helping and the hardwork and effort your putting in
[10:31] <ayako> this is something i should resolve myself but
[10:31] <omnag> I have installed linux on laptop and it s great but iiii want to put my drivers
[10:32] <ayako> i dont know how thats why i asked for help
[10:32] <omnag> but they will be installed only with xp
[10:32] <stdin> omnag: drivers for what?
[10:32] <omnag> i have a cd driver for the hardware
[10:32] <omnag> wifi etc
[10:32] <stdin> does the wifi work ?
[10:32] <omnag> but it only work with xp
[10:33] <omnag> i dont test
[10:33] <stdin> linux normally has drivers with it, no need for a cd
[10:33] <stdin> test it and see
[10:33] <omnag> ahhh ok
[10:33] <stdin> also...
[10:33] <stdin> !wifi
[10:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:33] <omnag> so i dont need to install drivers ?
[10:34] <omnag> for anything ? because when i reboot xp i must install drivers with the cd
[10:34] <stdin> omnag: windows drivers don't work with linux, but most things have drivers included. for things that don't there are guides like the link above
[10:34] <omnag> ok
[10:34] <stdin> linux works with most thing from starting, no need to setup after install
[10:36] <omnag> thak you much =very
[10:36] <omnag> very much
[10:36] <stdin> :)
[10:40] <apparle> I have ATI IXP SB450 . no sound mixer
[10:44] <dm> Hello. I use Konqueror for file browsing. When opening a new Konqueror window in an NFS nounted directory I can not see all files there immediately. I must do a manual reload. How can I avoid this behaviour?
[10:46] <apparle> stdin: I can hear sound only when I install OSS drivers but ALSA drivers donot work for me
[10:46] <apparle> why
[10:47] <stdin> I don't know, my sound has always just worked
[10:47] <stdin> (probably because the official intel drivers are open-source)
[10:47] <apparle>  I can hear sound only when I install OSS drivers but ALSA drivers donot work for me. Anybody knows why
[10:48] <apparle> stdin: I have ATI IXP SB450 card
[10:50] <bazhang> ayako: this is the link--http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[10:50] <ayako> what do i do with that
[10:51] <bazhang> ayako: read it?
[10:51] <apparle> bye everybody
[10:51] <bazhang> bye
[10:51] <apparle> thanks bazhang and stdin
[10:51] <stdin> bye
[10:52] <bazhang> apparle: see you later :}
[10:56] <frojnd> where can I see log file from ubuntu reboot ? because I get some note that network sensors fail ?? so what's the name of that kinda log, when ubuntu is starting before it gets to login screen ??
[10:58] <stdin> frojnd: /var/log/dmesg /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kernlog are the best ones to look at
[10:59] <frojnd> stdin, than
[10:59] <frojnd> x
[11:02] <frojnd> stdin, that's weired
[11:02] <frojnd> I haven't found anything abiut sensors or fail in bouth 3
[11:02] <frojnd> all 3*
[11:03] <stdin> you can always try the all-powerful grep, something like: grep -R "a string I'm looking for" /var/log 2>/dev/null
[11:03] <stdin> that'll search all files in /var/log for "a string I'm looking for"
[11:04] <stdin> (and the 2>/dev/null redirects all error messages to /dev/null, so they don't show)
[11:09] <frojnd> what does 2>/dev/null means
[11:09] <luigi> aiuto nn mi apre hotmail
[11:09] <frojnd> oh..
[11:09] <frojnd> u allready said it :)
[11:09] <luigi> aiuto nn mi apre hotmail
[11:10] <frojnd> luigi #ubuntu.it #ubuntu-it
[11:10] <luigi> aiuto nn mi apre hotmail
[11:10] <frojnd> or is it spam
[11:15] <frojnd> stdin, /dev/null is some temporarly directory?
[11:15] <stdin> frojnd: no, it's "null",
[11:15] <frojnd> nothing
[11:15] <frojnd> zero
[11:15] <stdin> think of it like a black-hole
[11:15] <frojnd> ?
[11:15] <frojnd> oh..
[11:15] <frojnd> ok
[11:15] <stdin> anything can go in, nothing can come out
[11:16] <frojnd> that's more good fo an explanation :)
[11:16] <frojnd> kewl :D
[11:16] <frojnd> so maybe we could put in all the bad code :D
[11:16] <stdin> send all complaints to /dev/null :)
[11:16] <dm> Hello. I use Konqueror for file browsing. When opening a new Konqueror window in an NFS nounted directory I can not see all files there immediately. I must do a manual reload. How can I avoid this behaviour?
[11:17] <frojnd> yes but does this solves the problem stdin, will the next time be my boot time faster and without those fail messages?
[11:18] <stdin> frojnd: depends on the messages, you use grep to find the log with info about it to fix it
[11:18] <frojnd> stdin, I get message like *sensors                               [fail]
[11:18] <frojnd> ndiswrappere load                                                                 [ok]
[11:18] <frojnd> ...
[11:18] <frojnd> and like this
[11:18] <stdin> ahh, that's a service
[11:18] <frojnd> yeah
[11:19] <stdin> that won't really effect boot time, maybe by a few milliseconds
[11:19] <frojnd> but why it doesn't load sensors
[11:20] <frojnd> cause I have one biger problem than this, and this is maye connected with it
[11:20] <frojnd> after I type in my user name and password in gnome login menu
[11:20] <frojnd> it needs like 3-5mins to load all the icons...
[11:20] <stdin> probably because your hardware needs some special driver to read the sensor data
[11:20] <stdin> that wouldn't be related to sensors
[11:20] <frojnd> stdin, where can I check for this
[11:20] <frojnd> oh :(
[11:21] <stdin> sensors read mostly just the temperature and fan speed
[11:22] <frojnd> stdin, well that's ok, since I have laptop and at high work of my bad code T can ARISE :D
[11:22] <ayako> hi
[11:22] <stdin> with good acpi support you don't need the sensors service to reed CPU temp
[11:22] <ayako> i am getting the following error message
[11:23] <frojnd> stdin, what is acpi ?
[11:23] <ayako> sub-process /usr/bin/dpke error code 1
[11:23] <ayako> cannot find build essential
[11:23] <frojnd> ayako: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:23] <ayako> usr/bin/dpke reconfigure: alsa-source not installed
[11:23] <ayako> yes
[11:24] <stdin> frojnd: acpi is a standard way for the operating system to interface with the power and configuration hardware (for example suspend/resume)
[11:24] <ayako> for the problem with using headphones
[11:25] <ayako> the ubuntu forum help advice failed
[11:26] <ayako> could not complete because of the above error messages
[11:26] <bazhang> ayako: tried installing alsa source?
[11:26] <ayako> yes that fails
[11:26] <bazhang> what is the error message with that?
[11:27] <ayako> get message asla-source not installed error code 1
[11:27] <stdin> and use pastebin
[11:27] <ayako> can you confirm the code for installing the alsa-source
[11:27] <ayako> just in case i did it wrong
[11:28] <oupa> !kde4
[11:28] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[11:29] <stdin> !alsa-source | ayako
[11:29] <ayako> bazhang i used this code: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) module-assistant alsa-source
[11:29] <ayako> !alsa-source
[11:29] <ayako> where
[11:29] <ubotu> ayako: Want to use alsa 0.11? Grab and install http://archive.progeny.com/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.11-2_all.deb, install linux-headers-$(uname -r) module-assistant and build-essential and run sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source
[11:31] <ayako> build fails
[11:31] <ayako> tried that
[11:31] <ayako> installation fails too
[11:33] <waylandbill> ayako: what error does it give when it fails?
[11:34] <ayako> sound base not installed
[11:37] <ayako> sub-process usr/bin/dpkg error code 1
[11:37] <waylandbill> ayako: did the packages ubotu shows to install actually install or did they fail too?
[11:37] <ayako> also failed
[11:38] <waylandbill> ayako: did you try installing just one at a time, like just the linux headers?
[11:38] <ayako> how
[11:39] <ayako> what code
[11:40] <ayako> aplay -l picks up sound card
[11:40] <ayako> and sub-devices
[11:42] <waylandbill> ayako: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:42] <fryguy101> Okay, here's a fun one... Adept prompted me that Gutsy was out, and that I could upgrade... so I did, and now KDE doesn't work (It boots to command line, and startkde fails).
[11:42] <fryguy101> Any ideas?
[11:43] <waylandbill> fryguy101: there should be an error in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. It may give you a better idea of what has happened.
[11:44] <fryguy101> Thanks. I'll see what I can figure out... (Using live CD, only way I can get internet...)
[11:45] <waylandbill> fryguy101: you could always reconfigure the xserver to use vesa fallback driver until you have more info
[11:47] <ayako> returns error code 1
[11:48] <waylandbill> ayako: can you paste bin the output so there's some context and not just the return value?
[11:49] <ayako> how
[11:50] <waylandbill> ayako: copy it out of the terminal window and use a pastebin service
[11:50] <waylandbill> !paste
[11:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:50] <ayako> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:51] <WaltzingAlong> sudo aptitude -f install         or          sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:51] <stdin> ayako: post the whole of the output to pastebin, otherwise we can't really see what's happening
[11:53] <ayako> i am talking from another computer
[11:53] <ayako> kubuntu is on different computer
[11:53] <WaltzingAlong> ssh into it then you can copy/paste
[11:56] <WaltzingAlong> !info linux-backports-modules
[11:56] <ubotu> linux-backports-modules: Generic Linux backported drivers.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB
[11:57] <fryguy0101> Okay... so the problem is definately not X. Nothing in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to suggest it. typing 'X' started a sucessful X session, but without KDE it was rather... pointless.
[11:57] <ayako> here is it
[11:57] <ayako> tsukimori@tsukimori-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:57] <ayako> Password:
[11:57] <ayako> Reading package lists... Done
[11:57] <ayako> Building dependency tree
[11:57] <ayako> Reading state information... Done
[11:57] <ayako> linux-headers-2.6.17-12-generic is already the newest version.
[11:57] <ayako> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:57] <ayako> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[11:57] <ayako> Need to get 0B of archives.
[11:58] <ayako> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[11:58] <ayako> Setting up graphviz-cairo (2.8-2) ...
[11:58] <ayako> /var/lib/dpkg/info/graphviz-cairo.postinst: 11: dot: not found
[11:58] <ayako> dpkg: error processing graphviz-cairo (--configure):
[11:58] <ayako>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[11:58] <ayako> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:58] <ayako>  graphviz-cairo
[11:58] <ayako> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:58] <ayako> tsukimori@tsukimori-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:58] <ayako> Reading package lists... Done
[11:58] <ayako> Building dependency tree
[11:58] <ayako> Reading state information... Done
[11:58] <ayako> linux-headers-2.6.17-12-generic is already the newest version.
[11:58] <ayako> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:58] <ayako> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[11:58] <ayako> Need to get 0B of archives.
[11:58] <ayako> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[11:58] <ayako> Setting up graphviz-cairo (2.8-2) ...
[11:58] <ayako> /var/lib/dpkg/info/graphviz-cairo.postinst: 11: dot: not found
[11:58] <WaltzingAlong> ayako: for that you should use pastebin
[11:58] <ayako> dpkg: error processing graphviz-cairo (--configure):
[11:58] <bazhang> pastebin
[11:58] <ayako>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[11:58] <ayako> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:58] <ayako>  graphviz-cairo
[11:58] <ayako> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:58] <ayako> tsukimori@tsukimori-laptop:~$
[11:58] <ayako> url - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45218/plain/
[11:59] <WaltzingAlong> ayako: sudo dpkg -r graphviz-cairo
[12:00] <ayako> message:  errors encountered while processing graphviz-cairo
[12:01] <fryguy0101> Hrm... should I just download the alternate install CD iso, and run it in rescue?
[12:02] <WaltzingAlong> fryguy0101: what was the issue?
[12:02] <fryguy0101> KDE won't start. No login screen, nothing.
[12:02] <WaltzingAlong> fryguy0101: always? recently? can you get into a terminal?
[12:02] <fryguy0101> X will happily start, but with no desktop environment it's not too helpful
[12:02] <fryguy0101> After the recent dist-upgrade
[12:03] <fryguy0101> it boots to terminal
[12:03] <WaltzingAlong> then does launching startkde give you the k desktop environment?
[12:03] <waylandbill> fryguy0101: did /var/log/Xorg.0.log show anything helpful?
[12:03] <fryguy0101> Nope, it fails
[12:03] <fryguy0101> Nope. Showed everything going fine.
[12:04] <waylandbill> ayako: I don't know how you got graphviz-cairo without dot. I'm sure it's a dependency.
[12:04] <ayako> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45219/
[12:05] <ayako> new url
[12:05] <waylandbill> fryguy0101: it didn't have stuff about not finding any screens?
[12:05] <ayako> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45219/
[12:05] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[12:05] <fryguy0101> Nope.
[12:06] <rysiek|pl> will I get *any* help whatsoever with sopme strange compiz artifacts here? or should I got to *#compiz-fusion, etc?
[12:06] <WaltzingAlong> waylandbill: apparently X loads, just not kde
[12:06] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | rysiek|pl i would think elsewhere, like the channel and wiki for compiz
[12:07] <rysiek|pl> ok, thx
[12:07] <waylandbill> WaltzingAlong: oh ok. I thought it was just getting the VT login and nothing else.
[12:07] <ayako> do anything else i can try
[12:09] <WaltzingAlong> ayako: there are ways to force the issue
[12:09] <bazhang> heh
[12:12] <ayako> i got it work
[12:12] <ayako> just some changes in mixer
[12:13] <ayako> happend accidentally
[12:18] <luigi> hi all!
[12:19] <luigi> when i upgdate adept i have an error: another process is using the packaging system database....
[12:19] <luigi> what can i do?
[12:19] <stdin> !aptfix
[12:19] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[12:19] <WaltzingAlong> luigi: or close the other program using the db
[12:20] <JohnFlux> i wish someone would just fix apt
[12:21] <JohnFlux> several people a day have that problem
[12:21] <WaltzingAlong> JohnFlux: what is wrong with apt?
[12:21] <JohnFlux> WaltzingAlong: see ubotu's message
[12:22] <luigi> WaltzingAlong how can i close it using database?
[12:22] <JohnFlux> when a lock is made, the pid of the process should be recorded.  apt should then check if the database is locked, and if so check whether the process is still running
[12:22] <student_> siema
[12:22] <JohnFlux> luigi: read what ubotu said
[12:22] <F3000> Hello there. I've faced such a fancy problem with my Kubuntu, that adept manager stopped huge-scale updating while around 50% was updated because an error. Now I'm unable to continue the updating process, and the whole system seems to be (partially) screwed.
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> yeah that seems like one way so
[12:22] <student_> co robicie cipki?
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> F3000: open konsole. sudo aptitude -f install            what are the results?
[12:23] <flaccid> !xvid
[12:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:23] <student_> szpary brzydkie
[12:24] <student_> adriana  godzinami lizalbym ci stopy
[12:24] <F3000> 0 updates, 0 new installs, 0 removable and 0 updated. (raw translation)
[12:24] <WaltzingAlong> JohnFlux: though in some ways that should not really be apt's task, should it be
[12:24] <Prorok> hello
[12:24] <WaltzingAlong> F3000: ok how about sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:25] <JohnFlux> WaltzingAlong: sure it should be apt's task
[12:25] <F3000> I've done that.
[12:25] <KUPA> halooo
[12:25] <JohnFlux> WaltzingAlong: well, possibly dpkg's task
[12:25] <JohnFlux> WaltzingAlong: but either dpkg or apt
[12:25] <WaltzingAlong> JohnFlux: ;D
[12:25] <F3000> actually, it does nothing, when redone.
[12:25] <WaltzingAlong> F3000: ok and now adept manager does not open?
[12:25] <KUPA> prorok
[12:25] <KUPA> lalalala
[12:25] <Prorok> nom\?
[12:26] <ayako> thank you to Hazhang and WaltzingAlong
[12:26] <KUPA> znów kolacji nie bedzie tralalalalala
[12:26] <Prorok> hahha
[12:26] <ayako> for all the time and help you gave me
[12:26] <KUPA> cisniemy w cs'a
[12:26] <F3000> It does open.
[12:26] <KUPA> ?
[12:26] <flaccid> how do i get xvid codec on gutsy?
[12:26] <Prorok> tylko sie to wylaczy gówno ;P
[12:26] <KUPA> hehe
[12:26] <Jucato> KUPA, Prorok:  English only
[12:26] <ayako> sorry to have bothered to so much
[12:26] <WaltzingAlong> F3000: ok but you want to resume the upgrade from feisty to gutsy?
[12:26] <ayako> bye
[12:26] <WaltzingAlong> ayako: take care!
[12:26] <KUPA> oka sorry
[12:26] <ayako> you to
[12:27] <Prorok> OK, So Kupka can we play CS now ? ;p
[12:27] <F3000> It's not update from earlier version  to newer. It's more of "update after installing".
[12:27] <KUPA> I think we can
[12:27] <Jucato> not in here
[12:27] <F3000> I didn't have that PC connected to net while I made the install.
[12:27] <Prorok> c'mon lets do this :D
[12:27] <KUPA> o yeeeahh
[12:28] <KUPA> Prorok, Kiełbasa is whore
[12:28] <Prorok> How  edit color numbers in Linux Konsole?
[12:28] <F3000> Plus, I wanted to have finnish packages installed.
[12:28] <Jucato> !language | KUPA
[12:28] <ubotu> KUPA: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[12:28] <luigi> ubotu it krash again..
[12:29] <Jucato> luigi: ubotu is just a bot. it won't respond to you
[12:29] <Prorok> Do you know what "KUPA" means in polish?
[12:29] <Prorok> offensive name ^^
[12:29] <luigi> ohu.
[12:29] <F3000> everything went smooth with the update, until error. I got that error fixed with sudo dpkg --configure -a , but I can't continue the updating process that was aborted.
[12:29] <WaltzingAlong> F3000: ok then it should be able to grab the updates to the list and upgrade the packages. in konsole, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade        would do these two things
[12:30] <KUPA> 'KUPA' is 'kaka'
[12:30] <WaltzingAlong> !info language-support-fi | F3000 for finnish language support
[12:31] <ubotu> f3000 for finnish language support: language-support-fi: metapackage for Finnish language support. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.04+20070209 (gutsy), package size 2 kB, installed size 40 kB
[12:31] <luigi> someone here have a DELL INSPIRON 9400 with nvidia geforce go 7900 gs?
[12:32] <Prorok> i have only GForce 6600 GT ;/
[12:32] <luigi> i cannot put driver nvidia...
[12:32] <Prorok> hmm...
[12:32] <KUPA> i have GF 8500GT
[12:33] <F3000> WaltzingAlong: W: the upgrade command is deprecated; use "safe-upgrade" instead.
[12:33] <Prorok> o.O
[12:33] <F3000> Said console.
[12:33] <WaltzingAlong> F3000: (yes, thanks. aptitude with gutsy reports so - ok)
[12:34] <luigi> or better, i put driver, seem that it cath driver, but on rebooting it gon
[12:34] <luigi> it goes in safe mode..
[12:35] <luigi> how can i put nvidia driver?
[12:35] <dm> Hello. I use Konqueror for file browsing. When opening a new Konqueror window in an NFS nounted directory I can not see all files there immediately. I must do a manual reload. How can I avoid this behaviour?
[12:35] <WaltzingAlong> F3000: so that should install any upgrades to packages currently installed. you should be able to do the same from adept manager
[12:35] <WaltzingAlong> !nvidia | luigi. kmenu/system settings/advanced/restricted drivers  would be the easy way
[12:35] <ubotu> luigi. kmenu/system settings/advanced/restricted drivers  would be the easy way: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:36] <luigi> i'm not appy with restricted driver..
[12:36] <luigi> i want the latest by nvidia..
[12:37] <luigi> i wish...
[12:39] <WaltzingAlong> luigi: ok then the weblink i sent should describe how to do that as well
[12:39] <luigi> WaltzingAlong tanksssss
[12:41] <luigi> WaltzingAlong i already hawe it...
[12:41] <luigi> on 64 bit!
[12:42] <WaltzingAlong> luigi: ah 64bit :p ok. open konsole. wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run; bash NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9755-pkg2.run;
[12:43] <luigi> WaltzingAlong wath's difference between restricted and latest driver by nvidia?
[12:43] <capagira> Hi there
[12:44] <capagira> is anybody experiencing problems with the tzdata update ?
[12:44] <luigi> WaltzingAlong bash is the command that i do in konsole?
[12:44] <WaltzingAlong> some are packaged nicely by ubuntu ie restricted; the others are packaged by nvidia and are more recent but slightly more difficult to install
[12:44] <WaltzingAlong> luigi: ok
[12:44] <luigi> i want the second one!
[12:45] <luigi> i want to try compiz!
[12:45] <luigi> :-))
[12:45] <F3000> WaltzingAlong: thanks for the help, altho I'm going to reinstall whole thing... *sigh*
[12:45] <WaltzingAlong> luigi: the first should enable compiz too
[12:45] <WaltzingAlong> F3000: but what upgrade is there that you cannot continue? you have gutsy already and aptitude -f install reported no problems
[12:45] <luigi> but with this i cannot use neither tetris!!
[12:46] <WaltzingAlong> F3000: the apt-get -f install you ran or dpkg-configure -a would have taken care of any pieces left over from an upgrade interrupted
[12:47] <capagira> is anybody experiencing problems with the tzdata update ?
[12:47] <KUPA> fuck the police
[12:47] <F3000> WaltzingAlong: there's few things that complain missing pieces, and shutdown seems to take forever (2 errors so far)
[12:47] <stdin> KUPA: watch the language and content
[12:48] <KUPA> suck my dick you whore
[12:48] <stdin> well, that was fun ;)
[12:48] <Ford_Prefect> Wow.
[12:48] <capagira> tzdata update anyone ??
[12:49] <Ford_Prefect> That was an interesting experience for someone who came to #kubuntu for the first time
[12:49] <Ford_Prefect> :)
[12:49] <BluesKaj> some 11 yr old finally got on his mom's pc
[12:50] <stephan> Hey, just discovered konversation.  New here, just wanted to ask, who are you people?
[12:50] <stdin> to tell you the truth, I knew that was going to happen, so I had the kick ready
[12:50] <WaltzingAlong> stephan: same as you i suppose
[12:51] <stdin> stephan: well, you can see the topic when you joined. this is the official kubuntu support channel
[12:51] <smorg> thats good news
[12:51] <smorg> even a 10 year old can install kubuntu
[12:51] <stephan> Oh!, cool I was looking for something like that.
[12:51] <capagira> pls anybody knows how to circumvent the problem with the tzdata update ?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> stephan, we're kubuntu santa's lil helpers :)
[12:53] <stdin> capagira: what problem is that?
[12:53] <capagira> since I tried to update it this morning
[12:53] <BluesKaj> time zone
[12:53] <capagira> I'm having problem with the locales
[12:53] <capagira> the update failed
[12:54] <capagira> do you know if the package is broken ?
[12:54] <stdin> installed fine here
[12:54] <capagira> the configuration fails here
[12:54] <stdin> post it to pastebin and we'll have a look
[12:55] <Daisuke-Ido> why do i always miss the fun ones?
[12:55] <capagira> it fails to set some LC vars
[12:56] <BluesKaj> stdin, this is becoming a problem lately , 3rd or 4th complaint about Time Zone in as many days
[12:56] <stdin> well there was an update today to gutsy-backports
[12:56] <capagira> stdin. I'm sorry post it whereto?
[12:56] <stdin> !paste
[12:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:58] <capagira> I copied and pasted the errors
[12:58] <capagira> now what?
[12:59] <stdin> post the url here
[12:59] <WaltzingAlong> capagira: submitting it gives a new URL which you share with us
[12:59] <capagira> yup
[12:59] <capagira> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45225/
[12:59] <WaltzingAlong> exactly
[12:59] <capagira> thanks
[13:01] <WaltzingAlong> is        sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales         needed?
[13:01] <eljefe__> I am getting AC3 encoding errors on KMediaFactory.  Does anyone know if this is an FFMPEG issue?
[13:01] <capagira> it was needed after I tried to reinstall tzdata
[13:02] <WaltzingAlong> capagira: but tzdata still fails ? i had a similar issue but only inside a chroot environment
[13:03] <capagira> yep it fails
[13:03] <poison--> mornin guys
[13:07] <BluesKaj> hey poison-- , what's yer poison ? :)
[13:07] <hcbox_> is it possible to virtualize leopard on ubuntu gusty using kvm + qemu ?
[13:09] <ubuntu> hello again....
[13:09] <ubuntu> here i am, for some questions
[13:10] <BluesKaj> ask away
[13:10] <ubuntu> ok
[13:11] <ubuntu> i was not sure if somebody is there
[13:11] <ubuntu> fine
[13:11] <hcbox_> :)
[13:11] <ubuntu> what is the system requirement of ubuntu...
[13:11] <hcbox_> lol :)
[13:11] <ubuntu> ...but don't tell me what is there written
[13:12] <hcbox_> depends of your needs
[13:12] <tomaz> you can install in a 333mhz with no problems,
[13:12] <hcbox_> yes
[13:12] <tomaz> and a 10gb hd.
[13:12] <hcbox_> yes
[13:12] <ubuntu> i have a vm and like to configuarate it
[13:12] <hcbox_> i used for months 10gb for system + home
[13:12] <tomaz> i run it flawessly in a 500mhz in a 2ogb hd.
[13:13] <tomaz> the full system is about 3gb
[13:13] <ubuntu> what is about ram??
[13:13] <ubuntu> how much cost it
[13:13] <tomaz> 64 of ram is enought. but if you have more is a plus.
[13:13] <BluesKaj> 256 minimum
[13:13] <ubuntu> there is a mini of 256
[13:14] <tomaz> with 64 things will be a little ... slow.
[13:14] <BluesKaj> even 128 is slow
[13:14] <tomaz> maybe this will change with kde4.
[13:14] <tomaz> i run with 128 without problems
[13:14] <tomaz> (and without any fancy stuff on the graphics side, of course)
[13:14] <ubuntu> but....what need it to run with full speed
[13:14] <BluesKaj> don't hold your breath about kde4 being faster
[13:15] <poison--> <BluesKaj, for the last two days i leave my computer on all night long, and when i arrive, its freezed
[13:15] <poison--> any ideas
[13:16] <hcbox_> lol  me too, but iit cam from opengl screenssaver
[13:16] <BluesKaj> that's a pretty broad question poison-- , memory leaks or too many processed which amounts to the same thing
[13:17] <BluesKaj> err processes
[13:17] <poison--> well, only thing i leave running is virtualbox running XP and FlashFXP leeching
[13:17] <poison--> weird :(
[13:18] <BluesKaj> poison--, are you running any auto programs on overnight
[13:18] <ubuntu> how much ram i need to run kubuntu 6.10 with fast speed??
[13:18] <posingaspopular> 512 or so I would say ubuntu
[13:19] <posingaspopular> depends on how much you're using the system. if you're doing web browing, music and chat, then i would day 512 is good
[13:19] <posingaspopular> but it really depends on how much applications are open
[13:20] <BluesKaj> poison--, why would you have VB running overnight ?
[13:20] <ubuntu> @posingaspopular    i have a virtuel machine an like to configurate it the right way
[13:21] <ubuntu> @posingaspopular    but i dont want to give to much ram
[13:22] <posingaspopular> ahh im not sure about the requriments for a VM, but i used to run kubuntu 6.10 on my old computer with 512 ram just fine.
[13:22] <ubuntu> @posingaspopular    ok, that sounds fine.
[13:22] <BluesKaj> ubuntu , virtuals love to use up RAM cuz you're running 2 OS's simultaneously
[13:23] <hcbox_> is it possible to virtualize leopard on ubuntu gusty using kvm + qemu ?
[13:23] <baudthief> any way to find out what packages were recently installed? For some reason installing spamassassin broke my compiz-fusion install :\
[13:23] <poison--> <BluesKaj, cause i use FlashFXP alot, and i couldnt make it work with wine
[13:24] <BluesKaj> !patience | hcbox_ we saw your question the first time...perhaps you might ask in #ubuntu
[13:24] <ubotu> hcbox_ we saw your question the first time...perhaps you might ask in #ubuntu: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[13:25] <gnomefreak> hcbox_: if it is a ppc/mac box yes if not theres alot of hacking you have to do and it is not supported at all
[13:27] <BluesKaj> sorry poison-- dunno anything about FlashFXP :(
[13:27] <gnomefreak> baudthief: there is a log in /var/log/dpkg.log
[13:28] <Downix> hcbox_:  heck, getting a Mac DVD to mount is a challenge enough.  I can't even get my Mac to mount my OS X CD to upgrade OS 9 to OS X.
[13:28] <gnomefreak> baudthief: you might want to look in dpkg.log.1 and or .2 as well
[13:28] <gnomefreak> baudthief: dpkg.log is latest
[13:31] <gnomefreak> poison--: more than likely i would say no it will not work in wine, please see #winehq for more info on it to see if they got it running and how much hacking they had to do but likely is no it wont work
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Downix, I heard that's a very difficult issue upgrading from 9 to OSX
[13:32] <drarem> ack!  how do I enable preview of jpg's, bmp's, png's, etc..
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> lo all
[13:32]  * ActionParsnip waves
[13:33] <gnomefreak> poison--: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351841&page=7 for a deb of it
[13:33] <Downix> BluesKaj: I even tried to get Linux here to mount it, and NFS'ing it, but no go
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> drarem: do you use dolphin / konqueror?
[13:33] <drarem> yea yea i went to kcontrol/file manager/behavior or something and enabled system protocol and media protocal local
[13:33] <drarem> konqueror
[13:34] <drarem> also tried nautilus :/
[13:34] <drarem> don't have dolphin i think
[13:34] <drarem> 7.10
[13:34] <poison--> ty gnomefreak
[13:34] <baudthief> My install somehow screwed up, I'm guessing I have to resolve items listed as "half-configured":  http://pastebin.com/m6e0e49f4 (machine crashed out during an update... I think)
[13:34] <gnomefreak> poison--: here you go but not sure how much help these links will be http://www.google.com/search?q=flashfxp+on+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[13:34] <baudthief> any idea how I can fix that?
[13:35] <stdin> drarem: tried  view -> previews -> images ?
[13:35] <gnomefreak> baudthief: run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:35] <gnomefreak> baudthief: if that doesnt help run dist-upgrade again
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> drarem: looks like its in system config
[13:35] <drarem> everything except sound files is checked
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> drarem: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kcontrol/filemanager/index.html
[13:35] <drarem> btw these are remote files..
[13:36] <drarem> in a network
[13:36] <drarem> going thru smb://
[13:36] <stdin> drarem: Settings > Configure Konqueror -> Previews & Metadata    you have to enable it for the network type
[13:36] <drarem> daaohh
[13:37] <baudthief> gnomefreak: Do I need to reboot / restart X afterwards?
[13:37] <gnomefreak> baudthief: depedns on updates it will tell you if you have to or not
[13:37] <gnomefreak> depends*
[13:38] <gnomefreak> baudthief: if you see X updates hal hald kernel than yes maybe even dbus (cant remember if its hal or dbus that needs it
[13:38] <drarem> what do i enable for that
[13:39] <gnomefreak> drarem: go to Settings >Configure Konq> Previews and enable it
[13:39] <gnomefreak> previews & metadata
[13:39] <baudthief> gnomefreak: thanks!
[13:39] <gnomefreak> atleast that is what stdin meant
[13:39] <gnomefreak> baudthief: ;)
[13:39] <drarem> had to enable smb
[13:40] <stdin> yep
[13:40] <drarem> thanks much
[13:40] <gnomefreak> im not on kde atm so i cant look to see if its right but i trust stdin
[13:40] <stdin> heh :)
[13:43] <tung> Does anyone know how to type vietnamese
[13:45] <emilsedgh> tung: go to systemSettings->Reginal & Language->Keyboard Layout
[13:47] <baudthief> Ok, that didn't work. Help please! Compiz-fusion stopped working after installing a package (spamassassin), on closer inspection 'glxinfo | grep -i direct' returns this: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[13:48] <baudthief> xorg.conf shows the driver in use is indeed nvidia and not nv
[13:48] <Downix> baudthief: do you have MESA installed?
[13:49] <stdin> baudthief: and you have "Load    "glx"" in "Section "Module"" ?
[13:49] <baudthief> stdin: yes, as far as I can tell, xorg.conf wasn't modified
[13:50] <baudthief> Downix: I don't know what that is
[13:51] <Downix> baudthief: It's the 3D interface for the system.
[13:51] <tung> how can I make firefox the default web browser in kubuntu
[13:51] <baudthief> Downix: If it's a necessity, It must've been installed - I havent removed anything matching that, so maybe it broke somehow?
[13:53] <stdin> !default
[13:53] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[13:53] <Downix> I've had it "forget" to install before, but that was during feisty.
[13:53] <stdin> tung: System Settings > Default Applications
[13:54] <tung> thanks
[13:54] <baudthief> Downix: libgl1-mesa-dev, libgl1-mesa-dri, libgl1-mesa-glx, libglu1-mesa... among others appear to be installed
[13:54] <BluesKaj> tung, in the konsole type: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser , choose the number of the browser..also you should also change or make sure FF is the default in system settings
[13:55] <Downix> ok, that was my main guess
[13:56] <baudthief> Would reinstalling nvidia's driver help?
[13:57] <WaltzingAlong> baudthief: start with the x log /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:58] <gnomefreak> baudthief: use restricted-manager to set up drivers if you have to remove nvidia-glx-* what ever one you need for cvard
[13:58] <gnomefreak> card*
[13:58] <gnomefreak> it will automagicly set up and add lines to xorg.conf as needed
[13:59] <baudthief> WaltzingAlong: Checked the log file specified, does indeed contain warnings about failing to init GLX and suggests a reinstallation of the driver
[14:00] <WaltzingAlong> baudthief: see gnomefreak's comment ^^
[14:00]  * genii sips on a large black coffee
[14:00] <baudthief> gnomefreak: restricted-manager only shows me a tickbox (or rather, a crossbox) next to the NVIDIA accelerated ... driver, am I just unticking, reboot, then reticking?
[14:01] <baudthief> couldn't see any other configurable options
[14:01]  * WaltzingAlong just finished his double mocha, ;) thought you might like to know genii
[14:01] <WaltzingAlong> baudthief: sure
[14:01] <baudthief> alright, i'll give it a shot
[14:01] <baudthief> if this breaks, you're all going to hell :P{
[14:01] <genii> WaltzingAlong: :)
[14:02] <WaltzingAlong> baudthief: :D ok
[14:02] <tung> when kubuntu start, there is no splash screen (loading screen)
[14:03] <tung> I has reinstalled many times but the same issue happens
[14:04] <gnomefreak> tung: usplash?
[14:04] <tung> I tried it too
[14:04] <gnomefreak> the one that just says kubuntu after you choose kernel in grub?
[14:04] <gnomefreak> or the one after you log in to kdm?
[14:04] <tung> the second
[14:05] <gnomefreak> tung: did you go into settings and set one? does it work than?
[14:06]  * gnomefreak cant think of menu item atm but i think its "settings"
[14:06] <genii> sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[14:06] <tung> can you show me
[14:06] <genii> ^tung
[14:06] <gnomefreak> genii: its not usplash
[14:07] <gnomefreak> genii: its the splash screen after kdm
[14:07] <genii> gnomefreak: Ah, my bad then :)
[14:07] <gnomefreak> tung: click on the Kmenu and choose settings or configuration cant think of it but it should be a top level menu item
[14:08] <tung> the splash screen after i choose kubuntu in grub doesn't load
[14:08] <genii> I'm having a caffeine deficiency this morning
[14:08] <gnomefreak> tung: so its before you log in at kdm?
[14:09] <Arelis> what's a good IRC client for KDE?
[14:09]  * WaltzingAlong passes genii a keg of black coffee
[14:09] <WaltzingAlong> !info konversation | Arelis
[14:09] <ubotu> arelis: konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 5034 kB, installed size 12988 kB
[14:09]  * genii gulps some down
[14:09] <gnomefreak> 09:04 <      gnomefreak > the one that just says kubuntu after you choose  kernel in grub?
[14:09] <gnomefreak> 09:04 <      gnomefreak > or the one after you log in to kdm?
[14:09] <gnomefreak> 09:04 <            tung > the second
[14:09] <gnomefreak> is it first or second?
[14:09] <tung> the one after i choose kubuntu in grub
[14:10] <gnomefreak> tung: see genii command above and please post output
[14:10] <tung> this problem not happen in feisty
[14:10] <gnomefreak> genii: you were right but you see with my paste why i thought it was other
[14:11] <genii> gnomefreak: Yup :)
[14:11] <gnomefreak> tung: your not using feisty anymore
[14:11] <tung> i am using gusty
[14:11] <gnomefreak> tung: i know and you cant compare the 2 of them work with what you have only
[14:11] <gnomefreak> tung: please post output from the update-alrternatives command
[14:11] <gnomefreak> alternatives
[14:12] <gnomefreak> tung: also please pastebin the contents in /etc/usplash.conf
[14:13] <tung> There is only 1 program which provides usplash-artwork.so
[14:13] <tung> (/usr/lib/usplash/usplash-theme-kubuntu.so). Nothing to configure.
[14:13] <gnomefreak> ok
[14:14] <gnomefreak> tung: does kdm finally load?
[14:14] <tung> yes
[14:14] <gnomefreak> than most likely its the res you have set in /etc/usplash.conf
[14:15] <genii> bah work. AFK
[14:15] <gnomefreak> tung: does it have same settings as # Usplash configuration file
[14:15] <gnomefreak> xres=1024
[14:15] <gnomefreak> yres=768
[14:15] <gnomefreak> and does your card/monitor support that res?
[14:16] <tung> wait a minute
[14:16] <gnomefreak> genii: eh this is easy work
[14:16] <tung> # Usplash configuration file
[14:16] <tung> xres=1280
[14:16] <tung> yres=1024
[14:17] <JackWinter> hiya, how do i get konqueror to play music on myspace? i've got flash installed, and working on youtube
[14:17] <gnomefreak> tung: please change it to use same as mine. you will need sudo or kdesu to edit it
[14:18] <gnomefreak> tung: than restart after saving changes and let me know if it worked (it should)
[14:18] <tung> can you explain why i have to change the resolution
[14:18] <tung> gnomefreak
[14:19] <baudthief> ok, you're all going to hell. X/KDM will no longer start, and I'm forced to IRC via bitchX :P
[14:19] <gnomefreak> tung: its not your screen res you are changing its the usplash res you are changing, its due to new colors that they are using with usplash
[14:19] <tung> thanks
[14:19] <gnomefreak> baudthief: what video card? and what drivers do you have installed?
[14:20] <baudthief> gnomefreak: nVidia 7600GS, installed as suggested using restricted manager. Disabling was fine, I reboot, and re-enabled the driver as suggested. It installed, I reboot, then BAM! no more X
[14:20] <gnomefreak> baudthief: please pastebin your /var/log/xorg.0.log
[14:20] <genii> back
[14:20] <gnomefreak> baudthief: there has to be errors and im not so sure 7600 is bug free yet
[14:20] <baudthief> I have no idea how to do that without a desktop lol - I dont know if I should even attempt it using lynx
[14:21] <bw__> hello where can i deactivate that my vsftpd server doesnt start anymore when i start my system?
[14:21] <gnomefreak> ok baudthief cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log and tell me wha tthe errors are they will be the ones with the E next to them
[14:21] <baudthief> gnomefreak: It was working before lol. Now I have no desktop effects, no spamfilter and worse yet... NO DESKTOP!
[14:22] <baudthief> alright, 1 sec, thanks for helping out
[14:22] <gnomefreak> baudthief: easy enough to fix for now until we get it working ;)
[14:22]  * gnomefreak has this strange feeling you are using or have used the nvidia drivers from their website
[14:22] <gnomefreak> or used envy
[14:23] <bw__>  hello where can i deactivate that my vsftpd server doesnt start anymore when i start my system?
[14:23] <genii> bw__: Is there an entry in /etc/default  which says vsftpd?
[14:23] <gnomefreak> but still 7600 wasnt ever well known for working all that great
[14:23] <bw__> one minute
[14:23] <bw__> seems that the file is empty
[14:24] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[14:24] <bw__> no its a directory no ther is no vsftpd file
[14:25] <genii> bw__: does /etc/default/vsftpd  exist, rather
[14:25] <bw__> no
[14:25] <bw__>  doesnt exist
[14:25] <genii> bw__: You don't want to uninstall it, just to make it not run?
[14:26] <baudthief> gnomefreak: I did use those drivers before heh, since the drivers from the repositry crashed and burned a bit like now. I couldnt get much useful information from that logfile you requested, so I uploaded it via ftp here: http://www.horizons-edge.com.au/Xorg.0.txt
[14:26] <bw__> but it exists in /etc/init.d
[14:26] <genii> bw__: Yes, you can make the startup file there non-executable and then it won't run.
[14:26] <bw__> na i just want to start and stop it by myself and not during system start
[14:26] <baudthief> gnomefreak: Using the shell this much reminds me of days when you'd spend all night on the internet and only get to see two women :P
[14:27] <bw__> but when i want to start it i have to make it exec again?
[14:27] <genii> bw__: That would be the fastest/dirty way, yes
[14:28] <bw__> but thats circuitous
[14:29] <bw__> is it because all files in etc/init.d are executed during system start?
[14:30] <genii> bw__: It may have an atry in kmenu..system settings..Advanced tab..System Services
[14:30] <genii> *entry
[14:30] <JackWinter> where do i go for konqueror help in kubuntu?
[14:30] <genii> bw__: Yes, all the entries in /etc/init.d are to  normally be executed when system starts up
[14:31] <bw__> yes there is an entry i just deactivate it thx
[14:33] <gnomefreak> baudthief: i have a feeling about something (with nvidia drivers from envy/nvidia.com you have to rebuild for ever kernel update
[14:34] <gnomefreak> baudthief: from what i see nvidia drivers are not installed at all
[14:34] <baudthief> well... I just tried installing nvidia drivers from the website, it just did the same thing as its doing now... It recompiled also
[14:34] <genii> can swap nvidia to nv for the moment
[14:35] <genii> (to get operational)
[14:36] <gnomefreak> baudthief: make sure xorg.conf is ok you might want to edit that file and set drivers to vesa for now so you get gui
[14:36] <BaudThiefX> gnomefreak: One step ahead heh, I replaced all "nvidia" with "nv", and am now in X
[14:36] <gnomefreak> BaudThiefX: that works too
[14:36] <BaudThiefX> keeping my other nick on BitchX in shell just in case ;p
[14:37] <BaudThiefX> Any idea how i'd fix this mess?
[14:37] <gnomefreak> use that for now i will sign in from windows when i get a chance to help more, start with using the uninstall option from nvidia script
[14:37] <bw__> does someone know how to see on a vsftpd server e.g how many people are on it and e.g. how much bandwith they use and a few other things??
[14:37] <gnomefreak> i have a few ideas ;)
[14:37] <gnomefreak> but im in middle of cooking atm
[14:37] <BaudThiefX> haha alright - it's 1.30am here, so I'm sort of in the middle of sleeping ;p
[14:39] <jthomas> Anyone able to egt KMediaFactory to function with a slideshow?  I always get errors at 99% when encoding to audio to ac3
[14:39] <genii> JackWinter: Inside konqueror there is a simple tutorial/help. Go to Help..Konqueror introduction (on top menu selections) then in the Konqueror pane there is a link called "An Introduction to Konqueror" which you can click. it gioves an pverview and some tips, etc
[14:39] <genii> Bleh typos
[14:40] <bw__> does someone know how to see on a vsftpd server e.g how many people are on it and e.g. how much bandwith they use and a few other things??
[14:43] <VulcanRidr> One of the minor irritants about Kubuntu (I've been running it since Feisty) is that KDE doesn't seem to remember whats running or which desktop it was running on. In Debian, I can shut down X, and when I restart, it will put my terminal windows on desktop 1, my browser on desktop 2, and so forth. Kubuntu doesn't do this, and in fact, half the time doesn't seem to remember all of what I had running in the last session. Is there a fix for this?
[14:44] <JackWinter> genii: i know konqueror pretty well, have been using it for a while as my main browser.  have a problem with the flashplayer in myspace though?
[14:46] <genii> JackWinter: Ah, OK :) About that issue i have no immediate ideas
[14:47] <genii> bw__: There seems to be a (fedora-centric) post about monitoring vsftpd here: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-88255.html
[14:47] <genii> bw__: At the last post is a workable method
[14:47] <JackWinter> genii: it works fine in firefox, but i really like konqueror & would like to use it for everything.  normally i wouldn't frequent myspace, but since i'm a musician ;-)
[14:48] <genii> JackWinter: At this time i'm not sure there is a flash plugin for konq
[14:48] <Arelis> how do i get kickoff in kubuntu? or is there another KDE menu replacement?
[14:48] <genii> Perhaps gnash is kio compliant, but i do not know
[14:48] <bazhang> kbfx is nice Arelis
[14:49] <JackWinter> genii: i installed konqueror-nsplugins and the flashplayer.  works in youtube.  don't think it is a ubuntu problem because i had the same on opensuse
[14:50] <genii> JackWinter: Perhaps try: sudo apt-get install konqueror-plugin-gnash
[14:51] <JackWinter> genii: maybe i'll try that.
[14:53] <genii> It could be a user-agent thing, especially as it's myspace (MS)
[14:53] <hydrogen> !kickoff
[14:53] <WaltzingAlong> !info squid
[14:54] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[14:54] <ubotu> squid: Internet object cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.14-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 627 kB, installed size 1580 kB
[14:57] <genii> JackWinter: Maybe for kicks change the Browser Identification to Firefox 1.5.x or MS IE 5.x
[14:58] <Norgur> Hi
[14:59] <jthomas> anyone have issues with FFMPEG in Gutsy?  Every program which depends on it seems to be broken.
[15:02] <bazhang> jthomas: what problems you having?
[15:03] <jthomas> KMediaFactory and QDVDAuthor both crash when using FFMPEG for audio, even if I don't have audio in the project
[15:03] <jthomas> KDEnlive doesn't export properly
[15:04] <jthomas> top of my head, thats all I've got.
[15:06] <WM15121957> hi all
[15:07] <hydrogen> xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/kde-devel/.Xauthority <-- wut?
[15:11] <bazhang> jthomas: lots of issues with kmediafactory and ffmpeg/imagemagick reported linux wide, some workarounds apparently at ubuntuforums.org
[15:11] <jthomas> hmmm
[15:11] <jthomas> ok thanks
[15:11] <bazhang> not sure about qdvd though--will look a bit more
[15:12] <WM15121957> hallo, ich möchte meine kubuntu dvd die ich auf die platte kopiert habe, als paaketquelle anmelden, sodass ich bei änderungen nicht immer die dvd einlegen muss, bin für jede hilfe dankbar!
[15:12] <jthomas> i'll dig more for them then.  i wish they'd just release fixed packages and newer packages/releases for *buntu rather than the updates-only like we have now.  Thanks.
[15:12] <bazhang> cheers
[15:12] <jthomas> bazhang: i have to leave for a while, don't sweat it too much unless you're bored.  thanks again.  i'll be back in a few hours probably.
[15:13] <bazhang> jthomas: I want to know too--those look like way cool apps I didn't know about--thanks!
[15:13] <jthomas> ;)
[15:14] <DaSkreech> Wait I missed cool? What happened?
[15:14] <bazhang> haha
[15:14] <bazhang> kmediafactory and qdvdauthor and ffmpeg screwing up--that's all
[15:15] <DaSkreech> !info qdvdauthor
[15:15] <ubotu> qdvdauthor: GUI frontend for dvdauthor and other related tools. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.0~rc1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3694 kB, installed size 7620 kB
[15:15] <DaSkreech> Duh :)
[15:15] <DaSkreech> !dvdauthor
[15:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdauthor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:15]  * DaSkreech laughs
[15:15] <DaSkreech> !info dvdauthor
[15:15] <ubotu> dvdauthor: create DVD-Video file system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.14-1build1 (gutsy), package size 155 kB, installed size 392 kB
[15:16] <WM15121957> danke,  nicht alle auf einmal, einer hätte gereicht
[15:16] <DaSkreech> !de
[15:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:16] <DaSkreech> Wait
[15:19]  * genii hands BluesKaj a large coffee
[15:19] <BluesKaj> hiya genii, thx :)
[15:20] <genii> BluesKaj: :)
[15:20] <WaltzingAlong> !info devede
[15:20] <ubotu> devede: program to create video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.13-0.0 (gutsy), package size 741 kB, installed size 1700 kB
[15:21]  * DaSkreech tops up genii with some of that high grade stuff
[15:21] <genii> DaSkreech: Thanks, I need it today
[15:21] <genii> jet fuel
[15:23] <tobi_> hi
[15:23] <tobi_> kann mir jemand bei einem Wlan Stick Problem helfen??
[15:24] <TheTobi> huhu
[15:24] <BluesKaj> hmm, tried installing the recommended ati driver following the wiki guide at :http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_8.42.3_Driver_Manually   ..however fglrxinfo now gives me this error : fglrxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ... there's a subset instruction guide for 64bit users (which i used)  how to fix this ?
[15:25] <TheTobi> is this an English Channel??
[15:25] <BluesKaj> I hope so :)
[15:26] <TheTobi> i don't know
[15:26] <BluesKaj> !se | TheTobi
[15:26] <ubotu> TheTobi: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[15:27] <BluesKaj> dansk, svensk , norsk  ?
[15:27] <DaSkreech> that's Swedish ?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> no don't think so
[15:27] <genii> BluesKaj: I had similar error, I just made a symlink to the mesa libGL in same dir (I think name is libGL.so)
[15:27] <BluesKaj> could be dutch
[15:28] <genii> german
[15:28] <icewaterman> how can i make gcc 4.2 the default compiler?
[15:28] <genii> !de
[15:28] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:28] <JackWinter> genii: i tried changing the identification, didn't help.  gonna go to #kde & see if they can help. thanks for your time
[15:29] <genii> JackWinter: OK. Sorry not to have resolved the issue
[15:31] <DaSkreech> genii: It's german?
[15:32] <genii> DaSkreech: Sure looks like it to me helfen=help kan=can    etc
[15:34] <RurouniJones> aye, it is german
[15:34] <icewaterman> genii: it is german
[15:34] <RurouniJones> Dutch has iemand, not jemand
[15:34] <icewaterman> RurouniJones: also i do not speak dutch :)
[15:34] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[15:34] <DaSkreech> Might want to pipe it to him then
[15:34] <DaSkreech> assuming that it is a him
[15:35] <icewaterman> hm, seems he already left for #kubuntu-de
[15:35] <genii> DaSkreech: Yes, he changed nicks then took off already
[15:38] <icewaterman> what the heck does gcc need localization support for?
[15:39] <DaSkreech> Error messages?
[15:42] <abcd> Hello, after clicking on a folder "Can't find MIME type application/octet-stream" error appears. When I click OK folder is opened with Konqueror. I think it happened after I added a new file association in Konqueror settings, then i removed this association, but the error still appears. Anyone could help?
[15:44] <robin_> is Strigi safe to use?
[15:45] <bazhang> Arelis: sure
[15:46] <mikelima> as long as you do not use konqueror...
[15:46] <Arelis> bazhang: is it as good as tracker?
[15:46] <bazhang> Arelis: tracker? not sure what you mean
[15:46] <Arelis> the search utility used in GNOME, in ubuntu
[15:46] <Arelis> GNOME tracker
[15:47] <Arelis> a little like beagle
[15:47]  * Jucato is not sure he would recommend strigi in kde3..
[15:47] <DaSkreech> abcd: Maybe put back the setting you deleted?
[15:49] <Arelis> Jucato: why not?
[15:49] <Jucato> Arelis: there have been reports of strigi eating CPU and battery at times
[15:50] <Jucato> and afaik, it's not as polished as the version of strigi actively developed on KDE4
[15:53] <Arelis> how do i set Dolphin to be the default file manager?
[15:53] <Arelis> Jucato: and okay, guess i will not install it, then
[15:53] <abcd> DaSkreech: The error appeared even before deleting the setting. It started when I created new file association.
[15:53] <Jucato> !d3lphin | Arelis
[15:53] <ubotu> Arelis: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[15:53] <Jucato> Arelis: just do it in reverse
[15:53] <DaSkreech> abcd: Which file association ?
[15:55] <arash_> Hi, I thought I want to permanently (re)install Kubuntu on a computer, on it I would like to have a virtual machine of windows XP (I don't intend to use it alone), what should I think on before installing anything?, what guides are there?, what important keywords should I know about?
[15:56] <bbeck> Does anyone know how to get rid of the drop shadow for kicker when running compiz?
[15:57] <scheater5_> arash_: that process should be relatively simple.
[15:57] <stdin> bbeck: it's a compiz bug, nothing you can do
[15:57] <abcd> DaSkretch: .rmvb  - I created this file association. The problem seems to be similar to this one:  http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=38318&pid=288076&mode=threaded&start=#entry288076
[15:57] <arash_> scheater5_: heh :), sounds good, but I still got many questions unanswered, like must I install Windows XP seperately first?
[15:58] <scheater5_> Arash_; all you need to be sure of is that a) your computer can handle running a virtual machine.  It's more or less running two computers concurrently and can be RAM and processor intensive
[15:58] <scheater5_> arash_: and b) that you have a large enough harddrive for a virtual disk.  Most virtual machines default way of doing things is to create a file which will simulate a drive.
[15:59] <arash_> scheater5_: 512MB, 3GHz, Is that good/bad, maybe I should consider having Windows 2000 instead if it is lighter?
[15:59] <scheater5_> arash_: while you can run Windows from a separate partition or harddrive in a virtual machine, it is not necessary to have an addition install.  All will take place on your (k)ubuntu partition
[15:59] <abcd> DaSkretch: I've paste a bit odd link. This one is more useful: http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=38318&pid=288034&mode=threaded&start=#entry288034
[16:00] <WaltzingAlong> arash_: once you get xp in a vm just turn off the pokey gui effects like fade
[16:00] <stdin> you just install kubuntu, then in there you can install one of the virtualization software products (like VMWare or VirtualBox) then install windows inside that software
[16:00] <scheater5_> arash_: nice processor, but you might want to consider a ram upgrade for virtualization - half a gig may not cut it, and upgrades are cheap
[16:01] <stdin> windows eats ram like a hungry hungry hippo
[16:02] <WaltzingAlong> right going from 512mb ram to a gig or two would help a lot more than going from a 1ghz cpu to 2 or 3
[16:02] <scheater5_> arash_: I would somewhat unofficially recommend this: install kubuntu as you normally do.  Make sure there are at least 4 GB of free space on the drive after installation.
[16:02] <arash_> scheater5_: yea, I'll consider it :), also tahnks stdin and waltzingALong, so I can concern about installing a virtual machine after I finished my installation of Kubuntu, but should I have NTFS partitions avaible or anything?
[16:02] <DaSkreech> !tab | abcd
[16:02] <ubotu> abcd: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[16:03] <scheater5_> arash_: then install Virtualbox (or VMware if you're so inclined) via apt-get or synaptic, and it should be relatively self-evident how to proceed from there
[16:03] <arash_> I have 160 GB space, I guess I can have at least 100 GB for media, right?
[16:03] <stdin> arash_: no, just do a normal install, the software will make a file on the disk which will act as a virtual harddrive (which then gets formatted)
[16:03] <WaltzingAlong> arash_: no need. it is virtual. for example vmware will put a file on your ext3/reiserfs filesystem which vmware treats as the hd for windows. in that file windows uses it as ntfs
[16:04] <arash_> VMWare or Virtualbox, is anyone of them better integreted in KDE?
[16:05] <hydrogen> wilton22
[16:05] <hydrogen> tT
[16:05] <scheater5_> arash_: neither one are particularly well integrated - but both of them are decently so.  As I understand it, Vmware is gratis, but not libre - so I am inclined towards VirtualBox
[16:05] <WaltzingAlong> arash_: virtualbox has a free/opensource edition
[16:05] <stdin> arash_: well virtual box will be, vmware uses the GTK interface (that's gnome's) but VirtualBox uses Qt (that's KDE's)
[16:06] <DaSkreech> Is there an association for octet-stream ?
[16:06] <WaltzingAlong> !info qemu
[16:06] <ubotu> qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0-2ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 4013 kB, installed size 10792 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm armeb armel s390 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[16:06] <arash_> Well, seems like VirtualBox is the way to go :)
[16:06] <Jucato> virtualbox's open source edition has less feaatures of course :)
[16:06] <abcd> DaSkretch: Solution from the mandriva forum helped, but thanks for interest.
[16:06] <arash_> Ok, I check their websites
[16:06] <scheater5_> I dunno that I'd recommend qemu to someone who's never done a virtual machine before - last time I used it, there was no gui I could find to create the virtual drive.
[16:07] <DaSkreech> abcd: What was it?
[16:07] <Jucato> !info qtemu | scheater5_
[16:07] <ubotu> scheater5_: qtemu: graphical user interface for QEMU. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1 (gutsy), package size 568 kB, installed size 960 kB
[16:08] <risto> hi
[16:08] <abcd> DaSkretch: I removed octet-stream.desktop file from "/home/abcd/.kde/share/mimelnk/application" directory.
[16:08] <scheater5_> Jucato: ah, I see.  Is it installed be default when you apt-get or aptitude qemu?  Because if it's not, looking for a front end is not exactly user friendly.
[16:09] <WaltzingAlong> scheater5_: qtemu is not a dependency of qemu
[16:09] <Jucato> scheater5_: you install it separately
[16:09] <Jucato> but vice versa
[16:09] <stdin> scheater5_: you can find it by typing in "qemu" into adept...
[16:09] <WaltzingAlong> scheater5_: so installing qtemu would install qemu as well
[16:10] <scheater5_> I'm not saying I would find it beyond me - but just that it is perhaps not as friendly to someone who has never used virtualization than VirtualBox...but I suppose that's neither here nor there
[16:11] <stdin> qemu is from the age before "virtualization" was a common word
[16:12] <scheater5_> I see.
[16:12] <arash_> Ok, So I just have to get a normal XP CD and I'm on my way?
[16:13] <stdin> arash_: yep, just install windows as normal (but in a virtual machine)
[16:13] <scheater5_> arash_:  yup yup.  After installing your virtualization program of choice, you'll see options to create a new virtual machine (which is, I believe, the exact words VirtualBox uses)
[16:13] <Jucato> (although qemu isn't technically a virtualization app afaik)
[16:13] <arash_> Thanks alot :)
[16:13] <lietu_> any ideas why initially my dualhead setup works fine(in KDM login screen), but when I log in, the other screen dies? this is on kubuntu 7.10, radeon x300, oss "ati" driver and xrandr
[16:14] <risto> what program is used for opening rar files ?
[16:14] <WaltzingAlong> !rar | risto
[16:14] <ubotu> risto: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[16:16] <DaSkreech> What is qemu?
[16:16] <TimS> !dolphin
[16:16] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[16:16] <TimS> DaSkreech: Its a emulator for running different operating systems in linux
[16:16] <TimS> !dolphinfix
[16:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dolphinfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:17] <Arelis> Is it safe to install KDE 4 to test it out, and then remove it, without causing any trouble in KDE 3 or my system?
[16:17] <TimS> Arelis: I doubt it, you could use the KDE4 LIve CD though
[16:17] <stdin> Arelis: the kde4 package do not interfere with kde3
[16:17] <stdin> it's 150% safe
[16:18] <scheater5_> I'd like to know how that works as well - after installing kde4, how do you log into it?  Is it integrated into the KDM like choosing between Gnome and KDE?
[16:18] <stdin> *cough*
[16:18] <DaSkreech> TimS: How is an emulator different from a virtual machine?
[16:18] <stdin> !kde4
[16:18] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[16:18] <Arelis> stdin: does it interfere with any other part of the system?
[16:18] <risto> any help with installing java jdk, if i use package manager then it breaks the install and i don't know why ?
[16:19] <DaSkreech> Arelis: Yes the KDE4 packages are seperate from the KDE3
[16:19] <stdin> Arelis: nope, not at all
[16:19] <DaSkreech> Arelis: though wait a few days for the new ones to come ouot they are much nicer
[16:19] <Arelis> stdin: it won't break -ANYTHING-?
[16:19] <stdin> Arelis: no a thing
[16:19] <TimS> DaSkreech: Its the same thing really
[16:19] <Arelis> DaSkreech: new ones?
[16:19] <DaSkreech> TimS: Ah ok Jucato just said it's not really a virtual machine. Just wanted to see waht it was classified as
[16:20] <stdin> Arelis: it installs to /usr/lib/kde4 way out of the way of the normal kde install in /usr
[16:20] <DaSkreech> Arelis: They have new snapshots of KDE4 every two weeks leading up to the release
[16:20] <stephan> Hi, I'm having some problems with my cdrom drive.  I installed kubuntu 7.10 today, and it worked fine, but now it doesn't detect my CD's.
[16:21] <Arelis> stdin: and, can i remove it easily once installed via Synaptic?
[16:21] <Arelis> or should i do it via aptitude?
[16:21] <stdin> Arelis: synaptic or adept or apt-get or aptitude, any
[16:21] <Arelis> stdin: kde4base?
[16:22] <Arelis> !info kde4
[16:22] <ubotu> Package kde4 does not exist in gutsy
[16:22] <Arelis> !info kde4base
[16:22] <stdin> you can wget the debs and dpkg -i them if you want
[16:22] <ubotu> kde4base: core applications for KDE 4 testing. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.94.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 38384 kB, installed size 110060 kB
[16:22] <Arelis> stdin: kde4base?
[16:22] <Arelis> should i install that one?
[16:22] <scheater5_> Speaking of which, not to confuse the convo, but why exactly is it that apt-get seems to be the standard, when aptitude seems more powerful?  Is there some danger in aptitude?
[16:22] <stdin> Arelis: best practice is to "sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev kdebase-workspace" that gets all the packages, also read http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[16:22] <WaltzingAlong> scheater5_: follow the instructions for installing kde4beta3, make the files needed for full desktop session www.kubuntu.org
[16:23]  * WaltzingAlong is building kde4svn just now
[16:23] <Arelis> stdin: -dev packages are libraries, right?
[16:23] <trappist> Arelis: headers and libraries, mostly
[16:24] <Arelis> trappist: used to compile?
[16:24] <trappist> Arelis: mostly :)
[16:24] <stdin> Arelis: well in the betas it's not quite, you really do need them to run kde4
[16:24] <Arelis> installing
[16:24] <waylandbill> anyone know if you use a gpl library in a gpl program you develop, do all libraries you might want to use have to be gpl'd as well?
[16:24] <Arelis> hmm, no, takes too long, and don't want to ruin my install
[16:25] <DaSkreech> scheater5_: dpkg is the standard just hat apt-get is older
[16:25] <Arelis> another question: I installed kde-core instead of kubuntu-desktop (which means, only the base of KDE). What apps should i get with it?
[16:25] <trappist> waylandbill: if you want to link to the libraries, I believe the answer is yes
[16:25] <trappist> waylandbill: unless you do your linking at runtime (I think)
[16:26] <waylandbill> trappist: okay
[16:26] <wathek> hello all I've a problem I've a Cups Shared Printer on my Server and when I try to install it on my computer when I try to print a test page I get this error printer "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed"
[16:28] <Arelis> stdin: Another question: I installed kde-core instead of kubuntu-desktop (which means, only the base of KDE). What apps should i get with it?
[16:29] <DaSkreech> Arelis: the apps that come with KDE
[16:29] <Xacarith> any one know anything about this      socket.gaierror: (-5, 'No address associated with hostname')
[16:29] <Arelis> DaSkreech: yeah, but i installed kde-core so that's no applications
[16:29] <DaSkreech> ah kde-core Yeah I was thinking kde
[16:29] <WaltzingAlong> Arelis: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core
[16:30] <stephan> Hey, can someone help me please?  I just installed kubuntu 7.10, and everything went well, but now my CD rom drive doesn't detect my cd's anymore.  Is there some patch I could download for this?
[16:30] <Arelis> WaltzingAlong: Yes but my question was what apps i should install after that
[16:30] <WaltzingAlong> Arelis: the ones you want
[16:31] <Arelis> WaltzingAlong: where can i find a list?
[16:31] <WaltzingAlong> Arelis: adept manager
[16:31] <Arelis> WaltzingAlong: i have synaptic
[16:31] <WaltzingAlong> Arelis: synaptic
[16:32] <Arelis> what should i do in synaptic
[16:32] <Arelis> ?
[16:32] <DaSkreech> Adept is better for that stuff
[16:32] <Arelis> DaSkreech: it certainly is not. i have lots of problems with adept
[16:32] <DaSkreech>  you can just grab the debtags for KDE and filter out all none KDE apps
[16:32] <DaSkreech> I don't know how you do that easily with Synaptic
[16:32] <Arelis> DaSkreech: you select "KDE applications" in the list that's in front of your nose :P
[16:33] <DaSkreech> Ok :)
[16:33] <DaSkreech> well then use synaptic then :)
[16:33] <DaSkreech> Does it have XFCE as well?
[16:34] <Xacarith> ah well
[16:39] <stdin> Arelis: kde-core is just the core of kde, not much there
[16:40] <trappist> I would just sudo aptitude install kde
[16:41] <trappist> apt-cache depends kde to see what that'll grab (it's a bunch of other metapackages)
[16:41] <TimS> stdin: Do you use dolphin?
[16:42] <stdin> TimS: no, I use yakuake
[16:42] <DaSkreech> trappist: is there a way to see waht packages depend on this package?
[16:42] <DaSkreech> rdepends or something ?
[16:42] <WaltzingAlong> !info kde | all of kde; http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core see here for more on kde/kubuntu-desktop/kde-core
[16:42] <TimS> :P no file manager at all
[16:42] <ubotu> all of kde; http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core see here for more on kde/kubuntu-desktop/kde-core: kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (gutsy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[16:42] <icata> any bulgarians in here?
[16:43] <stdin> TimS: yeah, yakuake + bash or zsh is my file manager
[16:43] <TimS> pah
[16:44] <TimS> I keeep getting the unable to save bookmarks error
[16:44] <stdin> you ran dolphin with kdesu
[16:45] <stdin> TimS: "sudo chown -R $(whoami): ~/.kde" is the fix
[16:45] <TimS> Ah =]
[16:45] <TimS> That should be a factoid, me thinks
[16:46] <DaSkreech> !dolphfix
[16:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dolphfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:46] <stdin> well it's a bug with kdesudo
[16:46] <DaSkreech> drat :)
[16:46] <stdin> sorta
[16:46] <stdin> it's actually a bug with sudo, or the implementation with kdesudo, but now I'm confusing myself
[16:46] <trappist> DaSkreech: yes, rdepends
[16:47] <DaSkreech> Ha ha good guess
[16:47] <trappist> :)
[16:47] <Arelis> what is a good program for taking notes in KDE somewhat like tomboy? (and please, no basket, it's development is going very badly)
[16:47] <DaSkreech> !bg
[16:47] <ubotu> опитайте #ubuntu-bg за български потребители . try #ubuntu-bg for bulgarian users, and please idle there patiently
[16:47] <DaSkreech> !bg | io_io_87
[16:47] <ubotu> io_io_87: please see above
[16:48] <trappist> wee, I can see all those bulgarian characters with my shiny new utf-8 support :)
[16:48] <X314> DaSkreech: ironicly "please see above" is in english.
[16:49] <DaSkreech> X314: Well the person asked in English I think they can sort it out :)
[16:49] <X314> DaSkreech: true, but still ;)
[16:49] <DaSkreech> X314: Otherwise I would have redirected it to them
[16:51] <X314> DaSkreech: and they would probably have noticed if something was written in their language. :P
[16:52] <BluesKaj> heh, ok followed the install ATI 8.42 driver tutorial , fglrx gears renders 50 % more fps than the prvious driver (impressive) , but now Google Earth catches signal 11 = crash on launch ... I'm searching the forums for a fix but if anyone has a suggestion pls post it here
[16:53] <DaSkreech> X314: not always. When you come in for support you are probably frantically trying to fix a prblem
[16:53] <DaSkreech> X314: you tend to look away a lot unless someone pings you
[16:53] <Arelis> what is a good program for taking notes in KDE somewhat like tomboy? (and please, no basket, it's development is going very badly)
[16:53] <trappist> Arelis: basket!
[16:54] <trappist> Arelis: I never heard of tomboy, but... have a look at basket
[16:54] <Dr_willis> Arelis,  you could just run tomboy.
[16:54] <stdin> knotes (1)           - Sticky notes application for KDE
[16:54] <trappist> even has kontact integration
[16:54] <DaSkreech> Arelis: How is it going badly?
[16:54] <X314> DaSkreech: that is also true.. ah well, there are always solutions. so its not really a problem :)
[16:54] <Arelis> DaSkreech: read the site
[16:54] <DaSkreech> Arelis: I have a new team has taken over
[16:55] <trappist> Arelis: oops sorry, I got so stoked about basked I didn't even read the end of your question
[16:55] <DaSkreech> That should be I have.
[16:55] <DaSkreech> period A new team has taken over
[16:55] <trappist> *basket
[16:55] <DaSkreech>  they are silent on the website but read the Dev forums and there are rumblings there
[16:55] <TimS> Whats wrong with Basket, I love it
[16:55] <Dr_willis> !info basket
[16:55] <ubotu> basket: a multi-purpose note-taking application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2build2.1 (gutsy), package size 4854 kB, installed size 7540 kB
[16:55] <TimS>  #basket-devel exists :P
[16:56] <trappist> TimS: Arelis is concerned because the original author has left the project
[16:56] <TimS> He has :o
[16:56] <trappist> yep
[16:56] <TimS> Its one of the best KDE programs]
[16:56] <Arelis> Also because it won't be ported to KDE 4 - i think. It says that on the site
[16:56] <trappist> it's pretty dang nice
[16:56] <TimS> Damn
[16:56] <Dr_willis> I imagine theres a lot of things that wont get ported to kde4
[16:57] <trappist> Arelis: the author won't be porting it, but it's open source and popular.  it'll likely be ported.
[16:57] <arash_> a question about the virtual machine, should I have a firewall on it? or will it not be granted internet access at all? I thought of using VirtualBox
[16:57] <DaSkreech> Arelis: Power of poen source :)
[16:57] <Arelis> trappist: speaking about that: can you still run KDE 3 apps in kde 4?
[16:57] <stdin> arash_: just because it's running in software doesn't mean the OS will be more secure, just that it won't harm your "real" OS
[16:57] <TimS> Yeah
[16:58] <TimS> Corse Arelis :P
[16:58] <trappist> Arelis: don't know, I only ran kde4 for about 5 minutes :)
[16:58] <TimS> You can, you can run GNOME apps in KDE, why wouldnt you beable to run KDE3 ones
[16:58] <arash_> stdin: I was more thinking of that if I have a not 100 procent legal OS, I dont want it to have internet access.
[16:59] <trappist> TimS: you can't run kde2 apps in kde3 afaik
[16:59] <DaSkreech> arash_: just disable the network cards
[16:59] <TimS> trappist: If the right libraries are installed you can
[16:59] <trappist> unless you can figure out how to run multiple versions of qt
[16:59] <trappist> and make all that stuff work
[16:59] <TimS> qt is backwards compatible isnt it?
[17:00] <DaSkreech> kde2 apps sucked anyway :)
[17:00] <stdin> arash_: if you have a license then it's legal, nothing in the MS EULA about not running in a VM (not in the XP EULA).   (you will probably have a license on your PC, so it's technically legal to have a CD for it, but that's off topic for here)
[17:01] <JohnFlux> stdin: didn't they change the EULA license in the latest service pack for XP  something
[17:01] <JohnFlux> or something
[17:01] <trappist> DaSkreech: you wouldn't have said that back in the day, when kde3 was brand new and not all your favorite kde2 apps had been ported
[17:02] <stdin> JohnFlux: they did for vista, but too late for XP (and you'd have to install that service pack to agree to it ;)
[17:02] <TimS> From #KDE:
[17:02] <TimS> [17:00] <TimS> Can you run KDE3 apps, like basKet in KDE4?
[17:02] <TimS> [17:02] <smileaf> TimS: Yes
[17:02] <DaSkreech> I just don't have fond memories of KDE2 I guess
[17:03] <stdin> KDE2 was ok for it's time
[17:03] <stdin> better than gnome anyway
[17:03] <TimS> [17:02] <smileaf> TimS: Likewise you can run terminal apps, gnome apps, etc.. in KDE3 or KDE4, and you can run kde3 or kde4 apps in gnome and any other windowing manager.
[17:03] <TimS> =]
[17:03] <stdin> TimS: as long as you have the libs installed, you can run anything
[17:04] <TimS> Thats what I thought ::P
[17:04] <DaSkreech> stdin: you could say that about KDE*
[17:04] <TimS> :P
[17:04] <combinio> can't change my user avathar while loggin' cuz admin denied that. how can i change it? ...i'm the admin :D
[17:05] <trappist> combinio: that's a lame and long-standing bug.  I forget the solution :)
[17:05] <combinio> have u had any similar problems with that ??
[17:05] <combinio> trappist: crap :/
[17:05] <combinio> trappist: but did u change ? ;>
[17:05] <trappist> combinio: look it up on launchpad, I'm sure it's been reported and someone has probably mentioned a workaround
[17:05] <trappist> combinio: a long time ago, yeah
[17:06] <combinio> trappist: ok, will try to find the solution. thx ;)
[17:06] <WaltzingAlong> its*
[17:07] <DaSkreech> Users have avatars?
[17:07] <DaSkreech> Where?
[17:07] <WaltzingAlong> combinio: kmenu/system settings/advanced/login manager/users and change the user image source
[17:07] <TimS> DaSkreech: Its on the login page if you are in 7.10 or have a user list selected
[17:07] <DaSkreech> oh that
[17:07] <WaltzingAlong> DaSkreech: ^^ or each can set one in the 'about me' in systemsettings
[17:07] <DaSkreech> yeah I changed mine and forgot
[17:08] <DaSkreech> Not nearly as fun when you never login
[17:08] <combinio> WaltzingAlong: trying that.... wait a sec...
[17:08] <TimS> :P
[17:08] <DaSkreech> !ca
[17:08] <ubotu> Canadian Ubuntu users can be found in #ubuntu-ca
[17:08] <DaSkreech> ha ha:)
[17:09] <genii> DaSkreech: Forget it. it's always empty, thats why i hang out here
[17:09] <DaSkreech> You hang out here cause we give you coffee :)
[17:09] <combinio> WaltzingAlong: haha! it looks it works! :D:D
[17:10] <combinio> WaltzingAlong: thaaaaanks a lot, bro! ;)
[17:10] <WaltzingAlong> combinio: cheers
[17:10] <WaltzingAlong> perhaps the default setting there for new installs could be switched to admin,user or user,admin rather than admin only
[17:10] <WaltzingAlong> !us
[17:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about us - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:11] <WaltzingAlong> hm no channel for some of those other americans? ;D
[17:11] <stdin> !loco
[17:11] <ubotu> Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[17:13] <floyd> hey all.
[17:13] <ScorpKing> hy floyd
[17:14] <floyd> does anyone know, if there will be official KDE 4 RC1 packages?
[17:14] <WaltzingAlong> floyd: greetings
[17:14] <stdin> there will
[17:14] <floyd> k
[17:14] <floyd> so i`ve to wait ^^
[17:14] <floyd> thx
[17:15] <stdin> you want it more if you have to wait, that's why we make you :p
[17:16] <floyd> lol
[17:21] <DaSkreech> !za
[17:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about za - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:21] <DaSkreech> Heh
[17:22] <grul> !se
[17:22] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[17:22] <charlesg3> I"m having trouble getting desktop effects / compiz working in gutsy - I have an nvidia card and it's using the nvidia drivers
[17:23] <Tm_T> charlesg3: try #compiz-fusion
[17:23] <kalle> hey guys what should I do when my adept managers database is locked? It says also that another process is using the packaging system database...
[17:24] <WaltzingAlong> !aptfix | kalle
[17:24] <ubotu> kalle: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:24] <WaltzingAlong> its*
[17:24] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | charlesg3; check the channel and wiki
[17:25] <WaltzingAlong> when inserting removable usb media no longer does kde pop up the window that something has been inserted although lsusb shows the device.
[17:26] <WaltzingAlong> !alsa
[17:26] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[17:31] <cap601> If I have a CD in the drive on startup it is automatically mounted by root and so must be unmounted similarly.  Can I stop this happening?
[17:34] <mmschnei> cap601: sure you can, as to how, I am not sure. Does it automount as root if you put it in the drive after you are booted up and logged in?
[17:35] <cap601> It doesn't
[17:35] <mmschnei> ok
[17:35] <mmschnei> well lets try this
[17:35] <mmschnei> well
[17:35] <mmschnei> how well versed in linux are you?
[17:35] <cap601> Not that good
[17:36] <cap601> I've been using it for a month or two now
[17:36] <risto> how to installl java jdk ?
[17:36] <mmschnei> ok, thats fine we can still see what can do
[17:36] <stdin> !java | risto
[17:36] <ubotu> risto: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[17:39] <mmschnei> cap601: still there?
[17:40] <cap601> Yep
[17:40] <mmschnei> ok, well lets give something a try here. And I'll warn you right off that I am not an expert in Ubuntu at all, I have just changed to itmself, but I have used linux for years.
[17:41] <mmschnei> Each distro does somethings differently so I might be a little bit off here, but I should be able to help you out.
[17:41] <mmschnei> And what I am trying will not break your system, but there is a small chance that I might disable automounting all together.
[17:41] <risto> how to installl java jdk ?
[17:41] <mmschnei> which will be fixable, but just thought I'd warn you upfront
[17:41] <cap601> That shouldn't be a problem
[17:41] <mmschnei> risto: is not in synaptic?
[17:42] <mmschnei> cap601: well then lets see what we can do. =)
[17:42] <mmschnei> cap601: do you know what pressing ctrl+alt+f1 does?
[17:42] <mmschnei> dont hit it yet
[17:42] <mmschnei> !
[17:43] <risto> cant install with synaptic
[17:43] <ivan_> hi, pipla
[17:44] <mmschnei> risto: can you find a .deb file for it online?
[17:44] <DaSkreech> !java | risto
[17:44] <ubotu> risto: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[17:44] <risto> hm k ill go look there
[17:46] <cap601> @mmschnei - I'm back
[17:47] <Hoax> Hola !!
[17:48] <mmschnei> cap601: k,
[17:48] <mmschnei> Do you know what pressing ctrl+alt+f1 does? (don't do it yet!)
[17:49] <risto> where i can paste my stuff ?
[17:49] <FunnyLookinHat> TTY1   : P
[17:49] <rytis> login
[17:49] <rytis> hello
[17:49] <mmschnei> FunnyLookinHat:  DING DING DING That is correct!
[17:49] <FunnyLookinHat> hooray...  i get a prize.   lol
[17:49] <FunnyLookinHat> Can my prize be...   KDE4??!
[17:50] <mmschnei> FunnyLookinHat: its a cookie, but you can call it KDE4 if you want.
[17:50] <mmschnei> FunnyLookinHat: KDE4 comes out next month or was slated to, we're all waiting patiently...
[17:50] <cap601> @mmschnei - Not entirely sure
[17:50] <murphy_> who is speaking?
[17:50] <Tm_T> cap601: what isn't sure?
[17:51] <DaSkreech> FunnyLookinHat: You get A CLI KDE4 !! to run on tty1
[17:51] <murphy_> sorry, it is my first time to use this irc!
[17:51] <mmschnei> cap601: ok, well its called TTY1, ctrl+alt+f2 = TTY2, up through F6
[17:51] <DaSkreech> murphy_: Right now you are :)
[17:51] <DaSkreech> !paste | risto
[17:51] <ubotu> risto: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:51] <cap601> OK
[17:51] <FunnyLookinHat> DaSkreech, LOL
[17:52] <FunnyLookinHat> CLI KDE4 FTW!
[17:52] <mmschnei> cap601: your current GUI, X, runs on TTY7, with linux you can run multiples on the same machine, logging in with different users and/or different environmetns (kde vs. gnome....)
[17:52] <DaSkreech> Really all I want is a CLI IM and I"m ok
[17:52] <FunnyLookinHat> I don't know about you guys, but I've been waiting since this time last year....
[17:52] <DaSkreech> (with webcam support) :)
[17:52] <cap601> Yep
[17:52] <murphy_> ~~
[17:52] <mmschnei> FunnyLookinHat: I've been waiting far longer than that.
[17:53] <BluesKaj> this error prolly indicates a symlink is required , but i'm not vwery well versed in setting them up : /usr/lib32/googleearth/googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:53]  * DaSkreech is waiting for KDE6.1 The Vista Edition
[17:53] <risto> got this kind of error when try to install java http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45276/
[17:53] <mmschnei> cap601: ok well what I am going to have you do is log in as yoru user on TTY1, and then "kill" your X environment to log you off there as well as stop the things it is running....
[17:54] <mmschnei> wait
[17:54] <BluesKaj> MS-Linux , gawd
[17:54] <mmschnei> cap601: sorry, thats a dumb idea, let me rethink this through... sorry, you said it does mount properly as your user when you insert it after boot?
[17:54] <cap601> Yes
[17:55] <mmschnei> hrmm, ok.
[17:55] <mmschnei> what sort of media are you talking about, a CD?
[17:56] <cap601> Yes
[17:56] <mmschnei> is it currently mounted as root?
[17:56] <cap601> Yes
[17:57] <mmschnei> ok, one second, let me pop one in here to see how its handled on my machine
[17:57] <DaSkreech> risto: That's circular
[17:58] <risto> hm how i get more info ?
[17:59] <mmschnei> cap601: odd mines not automounting, one second, sorry about the delay.
[18:00] <DaSkreech> risto: 64 bit? or 32 Bit install?
[18:01] <FunnyLookinHat> So does anyone else here think that Kubuntu is a conspiracy to make KDE look bad?  It gets so much less dev time than Ubuntu that it's just sad...
[18:01] <SSJ_GZ> FunnyLookinHat: A conspiracy by whom?
[18:01] <FunnyLookinHat> Canonical!
[18:01] <FunnyLookinHat> ;)
[18:02] <risto> 32 bit
[18:02] <SSJ_GZ> FunnyLookinHat: No, otherwise they wouldn't have hired any KDE developers at all.
[18:02] <risto> i don't really know whats wrong, why i can't install java
[18:02] <FunnyLookinHat> It wouldn't be a conspiracy unless they made it at least look like an effort sillies...  Don't you ever watch the X-Files?   : )
[18:02] <mmschnei> FunnyLookinHat: nah, Gnome is just "easier" to use the first time around and its more for those who just need things to work out of the box. Hence why its the default DE.
[18:02] <FunnyLookinHat> But seriously, I hope KDE4 brings a ton of developers to Kubuntu  : )
[18:03] <DaSkreech> FunnyLookinHat: How would that work?
[18:03] <FunnyLookinHat> mmschnei, I guess... except that KDE resembles windows a heck of a lot more so it's easier to transition users to from that environment.
[18:03] <mmschnei> FunnyLookinHat: I carefuly avoided the windows analogy and you went there anyways =P
[18:04] <FunnyLookinHat> DaSkreech, the entire world of linux users is waiting for KDE4 to see if they will switch to it from Gnome...  when they do (and when some of those are dev people) they will inevitably want to help dev Kubuntu
[18:04] <FunnyLookinHat> mmschnei, well it makes sense   : )
[18:04] <mmschnei> cap601: didn't forget about you, still working here =)
[18:04] <FunnyLookinHat> Sorry, this is horribly off topic.
[18:04] <Tm_T> erm
[18:04] <DaSkreech> FunnyLookinHat: Even though openSUSE has a better reputation of support KDE?
[18:04] <mmschnei> FunnyLookinHat: key is for first time users, not just from windows, but to the PC in general.
[18:05] <FunnyLookinHat> mmschnei, Ahhh I see what you are saying.  And yes, studies have been done and found that Gnome is inextricably easy for new computer users.  Which is definitely cool.   : )
[18:05] <DaSkreech> risto: You want the JDK right?
[18:05] <FunnyLookinHat> DaSkreech, yes, but everyone and their kids hate Suse's package management system (when compared to the debian standard)
[18:05] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[18:06] <risto> hm i found a link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/122325
[18:06] <risto> i have same problem
[18:06] <DaSkreech> !info sun-java6-jdk
[18:06] <ubotu> sun-java6-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-03-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 9286 kB, installed size 31304 kB
[18:06] <mmschnei> FunnyLookinHat: It reallly is nice, I used it for a few years, but in the end, it does what it does really well, but if I want to do something beyond its scope its very rigid, won't allow me to do things differetnly, KDE can be overwhelming in that regard bc you can configure it thousands of different ways. Its really great once you get the hang of thigns and learn how you want to do thigns your way instead of just the way that it
[18:06] <mmschnei> operates right out of the box.
[18:07] <mmschnei> ok folks, trying to helpsomeone else out here and I've broken something in the process.  =\
[18:07] <mmschnei> I changed something, not sure what, and now when I insert a CD its not being automounted
[18:08] <mmschnei> I think it was when I inserted a blank CD KDE prompted me what I wanted to do, as usual, and I chose do nothing (and set it as the default action). I assumed this was for blank CD's, ever since then non-blank discs are not automounting.
[18:08] <FunnyLookinHat> mmschnei,  That's the kind of thing we need more devs for  :)
[18:08] <mmschnei> FunnyLookinHat: for what?
[18:11] <jjj543k3> I experimented with another distrobution on my system. My original kubuntu partitions are exactly where they were hoewver the new distrobution wrote over grub. I have a kubuntu live cd. Is there and easy way to restore the grub in my kubuntu root partition to the mbr ?
[18:12] <DaSkreech> !grub
[18:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:12] <DaSkreech> jjj543k3: grub is grub btw
[18:12] <mmschnei> jjj543k3: yes, but I don't know how off hand, google should be able to help you out, sorry trying to help others out right now too.
[18:12] <DaSkreech> jjj543k3: You can have it point at both so you choose at start up
[18:12] <DaSkreech> I'm surprised the other Distro didn't set that up
[18:13] <jjj543k3> it was fedore
[18:13] <jjj543k3> which uses grub, but it doesn't have a normal editable menu .list, any way ille go some googling thanks
[18:13] <mmschnei> cap601: still waiting on me?
[18:14] <lg188> how to make a phyton install ???
[18:14] <mmschnei> jjj543k3: the link posted above titled "lost grub after a windows install" or something should take care of you
[18:14] <lg188> python*
[18:15] <zarath> Hi. When I minimize all active windows by clicking on the Desktop icon on the menu bar and then I launch a single new program, all the windows taht were hidden become active at once again. Is there anyway to prevent this from happening? (i.e. I would like to run a single program and keep all other windows minimized). Using Kubuntu Dapper 6.10.
[18:16] <lg188> zarath:  i don't know that problem ...
[18:17] <mmschnei> zarath: not sure how to do it, but that is the expected behavior, the idea being that if you want access to an icon on your desktop you can click that one button to get there instead of minimizing lots of windows
[18:17] <zarath> lg188, say, I have three windows open. Then I minimize them all at the same time by clicking on the Desktop icon. Then I press alt-space to launch katapult, but at this point all three windows have become active (i.e. maximized) again.
[18:17] <lg188> WaltzingAlong how to install phyton i have the files but i don't know to install them ...
[18:17] <Tm_T> mmmmh, should I compile KDE4 or not
[18:17] <mmschnei> btw, what does katapult do?
[18:17] <mmschnei> Tm_T: go for it!
[18:17] <zarath> mmschnei, I see. Is there no way to keep the windows minimized after I have clicked on that icon?
[18:17] <Tm_T> mmschnei: erm?
[18:18] <lg188> zarath:  i use also dapper 6.10 mby take a other desktop ..
[18:18] <mmschnei> Tm_T: have you compiled KDE before?
[18:18] <zarath> mmschnei, katapult lets you launch programs by typing their name.
[18:18] <lg188> maybe*
[18:18] <Tm_T> mmschnei: not many times
[18:18] <mmschnei> zarath: does it run in the background or is it just a one time deal like pressing alt+f2?
[18:19] <mmschnei> Tm_T: well then go for it, just wanted to make sure you had some idea what you were getting into time wise before you starte
[18:19] <mmschnei> d
[18:19] <zarath> mmschnei, more like a one time deal. e.g. alt+f2, or even unzipping a file that i had saved on the desktop.
[18:19] <Tm_T> mmschnei: why should I go for it? :-P
[18:20] <mmschnei> Tm_T: b/c I would love to hear user impressions of it, so far I have only read impressions from devs (well mainly)
[18:20] <amnesiac_> hello folks
[18:20] <Tm_T> mmschnei: erm, and you thought you would get user impression from me?
[18:20] <mmschnei> Tm_T: and at this point in time its ready for user input on it. There are some bugs that devs'll never find, they don't always do the same thing that users do.
[18:21] <mmschnei> Tm_T: at least somewhat =P
[18:21] <Tm_T> mmschnei: whois me ;)
[18:21] <mmschnei> whois Tm_T
[18:21] <mmschnei> err wrong win
[18:21] <Tm_T> meh
[18:21] <mmschnei> lol
[18:22] <mmschnei> yeah, lol, point taken
[18:22] <mmschnei> =P
[18:22] <mmschnei> Isn't the beta out soon? I haven't read up on it in a while.
[18:23] <lg188> hello don't get off-topic
[18:23] <Tm_T> lg188: meh
[18:24] <lg188> Tm_T: can you help me ...
[18:25] <Tm_T> lg188: what your problem is?
[18:25] <genii> !info phyton
[18:25] <ubotu> Package phyton does not exist in gutsy
[18:25] <genii> hmm
[18:25] <lg188> Tm_T: i need python i have the file
[18:25] <WaltzingAlong> !info python
[18:25] <icewaterman> did anyone try compiling i386 code on amd64 ubuntu with the normal x86_64 gcc?
[18:25] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 137 kB, installed size 600 kB
[18:25] <genii> Ah, python
[18:25] <lg188> files *
[18:25] <Tm_T> lg188: sudo apt-get install python
[18:26] <WaltzingAlong> !info python (dapper)
[18:26] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 532 kB
[18:26] <lg188> i dont have internet conection with that computer
[18:26] <Tm_T> lg188: ok, then, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb
[18:26] <lg188> i will trie with that...
[18:36] <manoria> #colmar
[18:37] <risto> http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=263789#263789
[18:39] <Azzco> Amarok sound lags a bit for me.. What could it be?
[18:39]  * genii sips a coffee
[18:40] <ardchoille> hi genii
[18:40] <genii> Hiya ardchoille
[18:40] <BluesKaj> genii, usr/lib32/googleearth/googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:41] <genii> BluesKaj: did you makea symlink to libGL.so in the dir it is in? (I think something like /usr/lib)
[18:42] <BluesKaj> oops , that's the error when trying to run google-earth from the shell
[18:42] <genii> eg: ln -s /usr/lib/libGL.so /usr/lib/libGL.so.1
[18:43] <genii> BluesKaj: ls there first, it may be the file you need to link to is libGL.so.1.2 or similar instead of just mesa libGL.so
[18:44] <BluesKaj> genii, is that the cmnd you just posted above for a symlink ?
[18:45] <Rukus> anyone know how to enable ATI Control in Gutsy Gibbons for a xpress 200m?
[18:46] <Dr_willis> hmm.. cant say that ive tried that Rukus  the 200m just 'barely' works for me under linux. :) it works..but i just get the basics.
[18:46] <Dr_willis> !find ati
[18:46] <ubotu> Found: binutils-static, foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, foomatic-db-gutenprint, foomatic-db-hpijs (and 147 others)
[18:46] <Dr_willis> of course it aint much of a video card. It does play video and does doom/quake ok.
[18:48] <Dr_willis> whats the name of the ati control program? I just see aticonfig
[18:49] <genii> bluesk     bleh no wonder tab completion doesn't work, he left now
[18:49] <Azzco> So no one has any idea why sound in Amarok could lag?
[18:49] <lg188>  no it not work...
[18:52] <Dr_willis> How can you tell its lagging?
[18:53] <Dr_willis> or you mean the sound is lagging in relation to the video?
[18:53] <WaltzingAlong> or that the sound cuts out now and again
[18:53] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: Amarok doesn't play video
[18:53] <Dr_willis> Tm_T,  thats why im confused. :)
[18:54] <Azzco> Dr_willis: The music stops playing for about 1 millie seconds or so sometimes..
[18:55] <Dr_willis> i would check hdparm to be sure dma is enabled on the hd. for a start
[19:01] <lg188>  no it's not working...
[19:13] <lg188> "sudo chmod +x ./thefile" is it right ? ??
[19:14] <ubunturos> ok, so I have to give sun-java5-jdk, jre to my friend as .deb files. Packages.ubuntu.com list dependencies, so shall I download it too and that won't cause problems, right?
[19:15] <ubunturos> however, each package has its own set of dependencies, so, do I download those as well?
[19:16] <stdin> ubunturos: it's better to get them to do "sudo apt-get --print-uris install sun-java5-jdk" to print a list of all the deps they need, then get those on a storage media for them
[19:17] <TimS> Adept has crashed, I dont have permision to kill its proces, what can I do?
[19:17] <stdin> use sudo
[19:17] <ubunturos> stdin: the biggest problem, is I'm on Windows now. Is there some other way on windows?
[19:18] <TimS> what the command to kill a process?
[19:18] <stdin> !aptfix
[19:18] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[19:18] <TimS> Its process 10095
[19:18] <lg188> ???? wtf it is ubuntu & kubuntu
[19:18] <ardchoille> lg188: Read the topic
[19:18] <ubunturos> stdin: and sudo apt-get -d (download) sun-java5-jdk wouldn't work?
[19:18] <TimS> ah
[19:18] <stdin> ubunturos: when they do that command it just prints the list of URLs to get, so they can put that on a floppy or something
[19:19] <ubunturos> stdin: hmm
[19:19] <stdin> ubunturos: the --print-uris option also tells you what to save the file as (as apt will look for certain file names that aren't always the same as the download file names
[19:19] <stdin> *)
[19:19] <lg188> ardchoille: i know but some are talking about windows .. and i hate almost ...
[19:20] <ubunturos> lg188: I'll log off soon
[19:20] <stdin> lg188: they aren't asking for windows support, they want to know how to get some debs for Kubuntu, ergo Kubuntu support
[19:20] <Tm_T> !wtf | lg188
[19:21] <ubotu> lg188: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:21] <lg188> how to install python  ??? on Kubuntu
[19:21] <lg188> Tm_T: i dint say any hurting words to anybody
[19:22] <Tm_T> lg188: you did say "wtf" and that is not appropriate
[19:22] <jpatrick> lg188: it already is
[19:22] <stdin> lg188: acronyms like "wtf" are just as bad, and python is already installed
[19:22] <Tm_T> stdin: thank you :)
[19:22] <ubunturos> stdin: one final question, I need to get those packages for feisty fawn and I use dapper drake
[19:23] <stdin> ubunturos: as long as you get the output from the command ran from their computer it will be ok
[19:23] <lg188> okk i get it ...i forgotten taht i said that i'm sorry ..(i have a light version of Alzheimer )
[19:24] <genii> stdin: Also can use an alternate sources.list for feisty, d/l only into a temp /var/cache/apt/archives then transfer it
[19:26] <jhutchins> !easysources
[19:26] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[19:26] <stdin> ubunturos: I guess you can do "sudo apt-get clean" then make a feisty sources.list (say /etc/apt/sources.list.d/feisty.list) and then apt-get -d the package, then copy /var/cache/apt/archives over, but I'm not sure if that will work (never tried), it may do
[19:26] <jhutchins> Also can go directly to the repository and download it.
[19:27] <lg188> but a python editor ....
[19:27] <stdin> just make sure you remove the sources after and run apt-get update again before you use apt/adept
[19:27] <stdin> lg188: kate does python highlighting
[19:28] <lg188> stdin: ohw dint know that
[19:28] <stdin> kate does everything
[19:29] <lg188> ?? kubuntu is at all  platforms the best :)
[19:29] <stdin> highlights C, C++, python, perl, C#, java, .sh ...etc
[19:29] <lg188> stdin: looks a multi one
[19:30] <Chousuke> I don't understand one thing about kate though
[19:30] <stdin> K Advanced Text Editor == KATE
[19:30] <cee> will there be packages available for kde4-rc1 in gutsy?
[19:30] <stdin> cee: there will be, in gutsy-backports
[19:30] <Chousuke> if you have multiple files open, the file viewer colours them completely randomly :P
[19:30] <Chousuke> Does anyone know why?
[19:30] <cee> are there packages in hurdy now?
[19:30] <lg188> i will try to use it ... i wil be back if i don get started
[19:30] <stdin> not randomly, depends on what order you opened them and edit them
[19:31] <Chousuke> well, it looks random
[19:31] <Chousuke> I haven't figured out what the purpose is, so if it's a usability feature, it fails at being obvious. :/
[19:31] <ardchoille> Chousuke: It colours them according to use, the more you view a file, the brighter the colour. You can turn that off, tho
[19:32] <Chousuke> I see.
[19:34] <genii> eg:sudo mkdir /tmp/apt-tmp;sudo mount --bind /tmp/apt-tmp /var/cache/apt/archives;sudo apt-get -c=/etc/feisty.list -d install <somename>;sudo umount /var/cache/apt/archives;cp /tmp/apt-tmp <somewhere>
[19:34] <genii> where feisty.list is alternate sources.list for feisty
[19:34] <genii> Sorry for lag, work called me away
[19:35] <ardchoille> genii: wow, that's pretty cool
[19:35] <kopyto> Je tu někdo česky mluvící?
[19:35] <stdin> !cz
[19:35] <ubotu> České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.
[19:35] <genii> ardchoille: thanks, i had to figure it out for myself :)
[19:36] <kopyto> děkuji
[19:39] <ardchoille> What is the "s" in drwxrwsr-x  ?
[19:40] <ScorpKing> sticky bit
[19:40] <ScorpKing> !permissions
[19:40] <ardchoille> Ah, so I can write files but only delete files I have written?
[19:40] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[19:40] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: ty
[19:41] <ScorpKing> yw
[19:43] <stdin> ardchoille: actually that's sguid, not sticky bit
[19:44] <ScorpKing> ah. i see. ty stdin
[19:44] <DM|> hmm Kubuntu cd works off of 128 mb of ram lol nice
[19:46] <ardchoille> stdin: /var/mail is set to drwxrwsr-x  2 root mail  is this normal?
[19:46] <genii> DM|: Well, at least 192 would be preferable since 128 makes it run like a dog
[19:46] <genii> bah, work calls. AFK
[19:47] <DM|> im just testing some stuff in this old machine
[19:47] <waylandbill> ardchoille: looks reasonable
[19:47] <stdin> ardchoille: well I have it as drwxrwxrwt, but that's because I added the o+w
[19:47] <stdin> ardchoille: and the sticky
[19:47] <ardchoille> ok
[19:47] <slow-motion> hi
[19:48] <stdin> ardchoille: ahh, the default is drwxrwsr-t
[19:48] <stdin> at lease I think :p
[19:48] <waylandbill> I'm not sure I'd set o+w, but that's just me. stdin knows what to do. :)
[19:48] <rami> problems installing tar.gz file.
[19:49] <stdin> waylandbill: it's needed for "Unix Movemail"
[19:49] <stdin> so mail apps can read mail to root@mybox
[19:49] <stdin> like from cron
[19:49] <waylandbill> stdin: I was sure there was a reasoning.
[19:50] <stdin> the +t makes it safer than just o+w
[19:50] <rami> everytime i try ./configure in terminal bash says "file or folder does not exist" what should i do?
[19:50] <stdin> where items inside the directory can be renamed or deleted only by the item's owner, the directory's owner, or the superuser
[19:51] <waylandbill> stdin: right. making it follow the creator. I understand.
[19:51] <stdin> rami: what are you trying to install?
[19:51] <rami> kfreeflight
[19:51] <waylandbill> rami: usually source packages have an INSTALL or README file. did they help any?
[19:51] <ardchoille> stdin: Ok, well I haven't mess with perms on that dir. I added myself to the mail group so I could get system mail using kmail but sometimes kmail can't lock it.
[19:52] <rami> never tried the INSTALL file. hold on....
[19:52] <stdin> ardchoille: that's what my permissions are for, 1777 (i think is the octal)
[19:52] <ardchoille> ok, thank you stdin
[19:52] <trpr> im sure the instructions are in INSTALL ;)
[19:53]  * trpr eyes kfreeflight. Is this in repos? this looks awesome
[19:53] <waylandbill> if it doesn't have configure, INSTALL will probably mention running automake and/or autoconf
[19:53] <vbgunz> does this crash X or restart it for any reason (found in /var/log/messages)? Nov 20 07:37:10 box syslogd 1.4.1#21ubuntu3: restart.
[19:53] <ardchoille> trpr: I looked in the repos, didn't see it
[19:53] <ardchoille> trpr: apt-cache search freeflight
[19:54] <stdin> vbgunz: them messages says that syslog was restarted, nothing else
[19:54] <stdin> happens at reboot or an upgrade (of syslog)
[19:54] <vbgunz> stdin: you sure, cause at that exact time, I am logged out of X :(
[19:55] <vbgunz> X is crashing or something on me. I think it has something to do with VirtualBox but nothing in the VirtualBox logs are helping :(
[19:56] <lg188> ok it works but the problem i don't know a thing about python scripts ...
[19:56] <chaka> need some help to let hostap run with WPA
[19:56] <chaka> any help
[19:56] <stdin> vbgunz: I have "Nov 20 07:38:49 goku syslogd 1.4.1#21ubuntu3: restart." in my messages, my X has been running for 9 days
[19:57] <gandalf> hi does anybody know if there will be kubuntu packages for kde4 rc1?
[19:57] <stdin> yep
[19:58] <rami> this it what happened when i ran configure (too big to paste, but it didnt work)
[19:58] <vbgunz> stdin: my X restarted/crashed just 1 hour ago. I see nothing in messages about it except for the syslogd line. I searched for syslogd and its confusing. no definitive answer on it...
[19:59] <stdin> vbgunz: the X log will be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[19:59] <rami>  so now i dont know what to do....
[19:59] <dev_noob> How do I change desktop resolution in Kubuntu 7.10?
[19:59] <trpr> hm. some packages i fetched w/ apt-get can't be authenticated. what's this mean? the authentication server can't be reached, the packages don't match, which?
[20:00] <adi_> .
[20:00] <adi_> hello everybody
[20:00] <ardchoille> !fixres | dev_noob
[20:00] <ubotu> dev_noob: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:00] <stdin> topic Official Kubuntu support channel | Download Gutsy http://kubuntu.org/download.php | Upgrade instructions: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please | KDE 4.0 RC1 packages will be available in Gutsy | Want to help? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingKubuntu
[20:00] <gandalf> hi does anybody know if there will be kubuntu packages for kde4 rc1?
[20:00] <stephan> Sorry, just wondering, how does one open the restricted driver managment window?
[20:00] <adi_> could anybody help me with a web video player that knows mms and/or rtsp please?
[20:01] <ardchoille> trpr: It's possible you haven't added the appropriate keys. Which repo?
[20:01] <rami> it just wont work.
[20:01] <trpr> ardchoille: official mirror. its only a few packages that can't auth
[20:01] <stdin> stephan: system settings > advanced > restricted drivers
[20:01] <JohnFlux> adi_: mplayer ?
[20:01] <ardchoille> trpr: Ah, ok
[20:01] <adi_> JohnFlux: does not work
[20:02] <trpr> ardchoille: i tried apt-get install flightgear .. but it doesn't look like i can proceed without oking the suspect packages :\
[20:03] <stdin> trpr: it happens sometimes, usually apt-get update fixes it
[20:03] <kelmezzino> now?
[20:04] <gandalf> adi_: do you know where i could get an mms example file for a test?
[20:04] <trpr> stdin: indeed. an apt-get update resolved it :)
[20:04] <rami> configure shows up a bunch of noäs
[20:04] <rami> no's*
[20:04] <ardchoille> Would there be an problem in adding "sudo apt-get update" to a daily cronjob?
[20:05] <fdoving> ardchoille: it's already there. in /etc/cron.daily/apt
[20:05] <ardchoille> fdoving: Ah, ok
[20:05] <ardchoille> rami: Have you installed build-essential ?
[20:06] <stdin> rami: and if it's a kde app, you'll probably need kde-devel or at least kdelibs4-dev
[20:07] <rami> its trying to install flightgear instead
[20:08] <trpr> you need flightgear. kfreeflight is just a frontend
[20:08] <rami> damn it!
[20:10] <lg188> bey
[20:11] <vbgunz> is there a really cool log manager application or something? X keeps crashing on me and I believe it is due to VirtualBox **but** i cannot pinpoint it... if any kind of hints are showing up in the logs, I have no idea where it is :(
[20:12] <Yorokobi> vbgunz, have you looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[20:12] <stdin> ksystemlog displays some of them
[20:13] <stdin> KMenu > System -> KSystemLog
[20:13] <vbgunz> 11/20/2007 01:17:01 PM	box	/USR/SBIN/CRON[7206]	(root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[20:13] <vbgunz> 11/20/2007 01:32:16 PM	box	kdm[5073]	X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly
[20:14] <vbgunz> this is the exact time X crashes on me... I think it has something to do with VirtualBox as the virtualbox log timestamp is exactly 01:17 ... could that crash X or restart it?
[20:15] <vbgunz> i swear if the reason X is crashing is found in xorg.log I don't see anything at all about it in there :(
[20:15] <vbgunz> very frustrating :(
[20:15] <aceler> vbgunz: are you starts kubuntu from virtualbox?
[20:15] <stdin> theoretically any app that used X can crash it
[20:16] <vbgunz> aceler: the host is Kubuntu 7.10 and the guest is Windows XP
[20:16] <aceler> Aha.
[20:17] <aceler> And why do you think that it is a VirtualBox problem?
[20:17] <vbgunz> I first noticed this problem occurred on Feisty... something about VirtualBox I strongly believe is crashing or restarting X... I just cannot prove it.
[20:17] <aceler> Well, I use VB for a long time
[20:17] <aceler> No problems
[20:17] <vbgunz> aceler: this never happens ever... It only happens if I have VirtualBox running
[20:18] <aceler> Ah!
[20:18] <aceler> Maybe it overheat your processor?
[20:18] <aceler> Or a vidoecard?
[20:19] <vbgunz> aceler: maybe, but how do I find out? it happens randomly and looking through logs i do not see anything that says "hey here is a clue as to why X is crashing/restarting"... I really don't see anything that helps me here :(
[20:19] <aceler> Of course not, because X Server is crashing, not shutting down.
[20:20] <aceler> And X Server will not able to write down something due a crash... :)_
[20:20] <vbgunz> it is a mystery why X is goes crazy but I do notice it only happens with VirtualBox... anyhow, in #vbox, I had an actual developer looking through the VirtualBox log and messages. he did not find anything that stuck out either :*(
[20:20] <aceler> I have an idea
[20:20] <aceler> Check your ulimit
[20:20] <aceler> Maybe X Server eats a lot of memory
[20:20] <vbgunz> how do I check ulimit?
[20:20] <aceler> ulimit -a
[20:21] <aceler> :)
[20:21] <vbgunz> anything in there I should look at specifically?
[20:21] <vbgunz> :)
[20:21] <vbgunz> I see a lot of unlimiteds
[20:21] <aceler> ulimit -v and maybe ulimit -t
[20:22] <vbgunz> both are unlimited
[20:22] <aceler> -l and -m?
[20:22] <vbgunz> l = 32 and m is unlimited
[20:22] <aceler> well.
[20:22] <aceler> the idea was wrong :)
[20:23] <vbgunz> I can paste it?
[20:23] <vbgunz> on a pastebin of couse
[20:23] <aceler> no, you don't need it
[20:23] <aceler> BTW, what videocard do you have?
[20:24] <vbgunz> nvidia geforce 5600
[20:24] <aceler> no idea
[20:26] <vbgunz> :(
[20:28] <vbgunz> I see this in xorg.log but not in xorg.conf 	warning	The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
[20:28] <vbgunz> how can I fix that?
[20:29] <aceler> you don't need to fix that
[20:29] <aceler> It's only a warning.
[20:29] <vbgunz> yes a warning
[20:30] <vbgunz> I only see warnings in X11 logs
[20:30] <vbgunz> I mean nothing more serious
[20:30] <genii> No worries. although if you want cyrillic fonts for some reason, sudo apt-get install xfonts-cyrillic
[20:31] <jack111> hi
[20:32] <ardchoille> hi jack111
[20:32] <jack111> on gutsy gibbon i got the porblem that opera if i install it via the static deb download from the opera site or via ap-get..it doenst work, it runs only with 100%cpu load in top, but no opera browser window appears
[20:33] <jack111> thats a sentence sorry
[20:33] <ardchoille> jack111: Are you on Gutsy?
[20:34] <jack111> yes ardchoille
[20:34] <ardchoille> jack111: Are you using the "partner" repo to install opera?
[20:35] <jack111> i used the one from the default settings...i check, didnt change anything,
[20:36] <ardchoille> jack111: afaik, opera isn't in the official repos other than the partner repo. I think you or someone had to change the sources to get opera.
[20:36] <ardchoille> Anyway, I installed it from the partner repo and it works great. You can enable the partner repo
[20:36] <vbgunz> genii: what are cyrillic fonts ?
[20:37] <ardchoille> !ru
[20:37] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[20:37] <ardchoille> vbgunz: ^^ Those
[20:37] <vbgunz> heh
[20:37] <vbgunz> I can see them just fine
[20:37] <jack111> ardchoille: what do i have to fill in to enable that?
[20:37] <vbgunz> should I install the ones you said? will that fix the warning?
[20:37] <genii> vbgunz: If you don't know you're not likely to ever need them LOL
[20:38] <vbgunz> heh, just trying to address some warnings I guess :)
[20:38] <ardchoille> jack111: the partner repo is already in the gutsy sources, it's just commended out. you can open the sources.list file in a text editor with "kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and uncomment the partner repo there. But, make sure you run "sudo apt-get update" to update your sources
[20:39] <genii> vbgunz: It's not essential to install them for X to work properly. It is only giving a mild warning about them. But installing that package should eliminate even that.
[20:39] <Beowulf> need help booting up
[20:39] <vbgunz> genii: ok one last thing then. will those fonts show up in my fonts list?
[20:40] <Beowulf> Got huge problem, comp wont boot up.
[20:40] <genii> vbgunz: Yup
[20:40] <ardchoille> Beowulf: You need to be more specific. Errors? If so, what are they? What does the system do? Black screen?
[20:41] <Gannondorf> ardchoille: It says this: "init: rc-default main process (4105) terminated with status 127
[20:41] <Gannondorf> !status
[20:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about status - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:41] <vbgunz> well am going to restart X. brb
[20:42] <jack111> ardchoille: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m2777ae61 that is what i get when i do opera& in the konsole, the opera browser window wont open, but i get 100% cpu load
[20:42] <Gannondorf> I need to uninstall compiz
[20:43] <Gannondorf> from a grub terminal
[20:44] <aceler> KDE 4.0 RC1 is out
[20:44] <Tm_T> aceler: yes, platform
[20:45] <ardchoille> jack111: I'm afraid that doesn't help me much. Do you know which repo provided the opera package? Or how you installed it?
[20:47] <jack111> ardchoille:  i tried via apt-get and also via the static deb download from the opera site
[20:49] <Minataku> KDE 4.0-RC1 is out despite the fact that it's clearly alpha quality, as heard from opinions of users of this channel
[20:49] <Minataku> They're really trying to make KDE seem like Windows, aren't they?
[20:49] <Tm_T> Minataku: erm
[20:49] <Minataku> They've even adopted the shoddy programming and releasing of not-ready products :P
[20:49] <Tm_T> releasing?
[20:49] <Tm_T> RC != release
[20:50] <sonic__> Minataku: release early release often.  They are a project not a business.
[20:50] <jack111> ardchoille: what do you mean by partner? universe? where exactly uncomment?
[20:51] <ardchoille> jack111: Can you pastebin your sources.list file? I'll try and help you with it.
[20:51] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[20:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:53] <sonic__> Minataku: Microsoft demands money, KDE merely asks for input and contribution/bug fixes if possible. Thus pre-alpha releases better invove the community with the process. makes it more transparent.
[20:53] <Minataku> Tm_T: Analog Microsoft product quality, where first releases are betas
[20:53]  * Tm_T slaps Minataku 
[20:53] <Minataku> RC is the final step before the final release
[20:53] <Minataku> It stands for "Release Candidate"
[20:54] <Tecumseh> good evening
[20:54] <sonic__> Minataku: again. KDE is not a product. your understanding of how community software is created is severly lacking...
[20:54] <Tm_T> Minataku: it's RC of platform, not apps
[20:54] <Tm_T> Minataku: apps are still beta
[20:54] <aceler> Warning! Holy war detected!
[20:54] <Minataku> Ah!
[20:54] <Gannondorf> It says this: "init: rc-default main process (4105) terminated with status 127"
[20:54] <Tm_T> aceler: untrue
[20:55] <Minataku> Tm_T: That clears things up, then
[20:55] <Tecumseh> can someone help me set the mixer to the correct item? Currently the panel applet for the mixer does the volume control for the headphone's. It'd like to have it manage the master volume...
[20:55] <Tm_T> Minataku: aye
[20:55] <Minataku> You must admit, it's a tad confusing
[20:55] <Minataku> My apologies
[20:55] <Minataku> sonic__: If they're using a professional-style release system, it should be fairly well complete to that version by RC
[20:56] <Minataku> But the clarification I recieved indicates that only part of KDE is at RC-level
[20:56] <Gannondorf> Are you guys going to argue or help people?!
[20:56] <Minataku> Typically a whole project is advanced at once
[20:56] <Minataku> Argue.
[20:56] <Minataku> j/k
[20:56] <Op3r> how can you make kubuntu run faster?
[20:56] <Gannondorf> then help me
[20:56] <Minataku> What says that, Gannondorf?
[20:57] <Gannondorf> The booting process
[20:57] <Minataku> Well, nevermind, obviously it's init
[20:57] <Gannondorf> I try and boot and it says that
[20:57] <Gannondorf> then it stops
[20:57] <Minataku> Hm
[20:57] <Minataku> Did you do anything recently that may have caused this?
[20:57] <Gannondorf> It always says a random number
[20:57] <Gannondorf> the last thing I did was try and compile compiz
[20:57] <Minataku> Yeah, the PID of rc-default will be different every time
[20:58] <Minataku> Did it compile and install?
[20:58] <jack111> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m18eb01c0 ardchoille
[20:58] <Gannondorf> no
[20:58] <Gannondorf> the farthest I got was the make part
[20:58] <Minataku> What did you do before that, then?
[20:58] <Gannondorf> The only things I have access to are the things in Grub
[20:58] <Gannondorf> hmmm
[20:58] <Gannondorf> Nothing harmful
[20:58] <Minataku> Sounds like neither of those SHOULD give init a fit
[20:58] <Gannondorf> installed a wifi radar program
[20:59] <ardchoille> jack111: I see the problem
[20:59] <Minataku> Did anything you installed recently set itself to start with the machine?
[20:59] <Gannondorf> It always stops at either network interface setup or keymap setup
[20:59] <Minataku> Hrm
[20:59] <Gannondorf> wifi radar program did
[20:59] <Gannondorf> actually
[20:59] <Gannondorf> no
[20:59] <Gannondorf> it didnt
[20:59] <Minataku> Hm
[20:59] <Gannondorf> yup
[20:59] <Minataku> Because if it did, that's your problem
[20:59] <Gannondorf> stopepd at configuring network interfaces
[21:00] <ardchoille> jack111: You've used automatix. The best thing I can recommend to you now is to back up your personal files and re-install kubuntu.. and never touch automatix again
[21:00] <Gannondorf> !
[21:00] <ardchoille> !automatix | jack111
[21:00] <ubotu> jack111: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[21:00] <Gannondorf> Last thing i installed was apache2
[21:00] <Gannondorf> and it's dependencies
[21:00] <Minataku> That, I believe, definitely starts pieces of itself with the system
[21:00] <Gannondorf> So, how do I remove apache2 in the Grub terminal?
[21:01] <Gannondorf> !info apache2
[21:01] <Minataku> You can't
[21:01] <Gannondorf> then what do I do?
[21:01] <Minataku> You'll have to boot into a LiveCD in rescue mode or somesuch
[21:01] <ubotu> apache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.4-3build1 (gutsy), package size 40 kB, installed size 92 kB
[21:01] <Minataku> Hm
[21:01] <Minataku> !init
[21:01] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[21:01] <Minataku> Not quite
[21:02] <jack111> ardchoille: i have automatix, but it doesnt show opera-....
[21:02] <Minataku> Are the network cards removeable?
[21:02] <Gannondorf> Is there a way to disable apache2 from starting?
[21:02] <Gannondorf> yes
[21:02] <Gannondorf> I removed it
[21:02] <ardchoille> jack111: That doesn't matter, automatix is known to cause problems which are difficult to track down and solve. IMHO, you're just going to have more and more problems due to automatix.
[21:02] <Minataku> Try rebooting again now
[21:02] <jack111> ardchoille: or you mean automatix messed my sources.lst up?
[21:02] <Gannondorf> it's a simple linksys card
[21:03] <Minataku> With the card removed
[21:03] <Gannondorf> I removed it a while ago
[21:03] <Minataku> Hm
[21:03] <Minataku> Is that when booting stopped working?
[21:03] <jack111> ardchoille: ok, so should i mark the automatix line and try again?
[21:03] <Gannondorf> no
[21:03] <Minataku> Or was this before that?
[21:03] <Minataku> Hrm
[21:03] <ardchoille> jack111: I mean automatix mess up your system. And, your sources.list has Edgy repos, not a good thing to mix repos like that.
[21:03] <Gannondorf> I tried it once with the card
[21:04] <ardchoille> jack111: The damage done by automatix is already done, if it were me, I wouldn't trust the system any longer.. I'd reinstall.
[21:04] <Minataku> Sorry, I'm kinda stumped... Apache MAY be causing it, but it doesn't seem likely since it crashes out at the network configuration
[21:04] <Gannondorf> hmmm
[21:04] <jack111> hmm..i just did the upgrade via the aptitude, so where would i get a clean thing?
[21:04] <Gannondorf> I've been wanting to upgrade to Gutsy anyway
[21:04] <jack111> i cannot cos of work
[21:04] <Minataku> jack111: Your current installation is bad.
[21:05] <Minataku> Your only viable option is backup and reinstall.
[21:05] <Gannondorf> How do i backup?
[21:05] <Minataku> !backup
[21:05] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[21:05] <Gannondorf> I actually want to use gutsy
[21:05] <Gannondorf> would the backups work with that?
[21:05] <Minataku> Er, though you'll have to boot a LiveCD and mount the fs, Gannondorf
[21:05] <Gannondorf> nevermind
[21:05] <Gannondorf> there's nothing important on there
[21:05] <Minataku> I was talking to jack111 when I said what his options were
[21:06] <Gannondorf> oh
[21:06] <Minataku> He used one of two "tools" that completely f*ck up *buntu installations
[21:06] <Minataku> Automatix and Envy << DO NOT USE EITHER OF THESE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
[21:06] <MurielGodoi> Hi, I just install pidgin, but I got no event sounds, all others applications sounds works fine. Any ida?
[21:07] <Minataku> MurielGodoi: Check the application configuration
[21:07] <MurielGodoi> Minataku: sounds are enabled there. But when I click Test, I can't hear the sound
[21:07] <armando> hola
[21:07] <armando> hi
[21:07] <Minataku> Hm. That's weird.
[21:08] <Gannondorf> minataku: what is the fastest mirror for downloading kubuntu 7.10?
[21:08] <Minataku> Is there any other sound configuration besides enabling it?
[21:08] <armando> i have a problem
[21:08] <MurielGodoi> !ask
[21:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:08] <Minataku> Gannondorf: Even if I had an answer, it'd be different for you anyway
[21:08] <Gannondorf> I found it
[21:08] <Gannondorf> Georgia tech
[21:08] <armando> whow play mp3 in kubuntu?
[21:08] <Minataku> I usually choose either the main site, or one in Japan
[21:08] <Minataku> !mp3
[21:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:09] <Gannondorf> armando: amarok if you don't have it, and codecs
[21:09] <Gannondorf> !codecs| armando
[21:09] <ubotu> armando: please see above
[21:09] <Minataku> Ignore the crap about using free formats until you're MAKING multimedia
[21:09] <Minataku> If you're just playing multimedia, you don't have a choice
[21:10] <Minataku> s/multimedia/multimedia\ files/g
[21:10] <jhutchins> Minataku: Well, if you're ripping or transcoding it applies.
[21:10] <Minataku> I said that
[21:10] <Minataku> MAKING multimedia files
[21:10] <armando> algien que able español?
[21:10] <Minataku> :P
[21:10] <Minataku> !es | armando
[21:10] <ubotu> armando: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[21:11] <armando> ok gracias
[21:11] <MurielGodoi> Minataku: I just tried to set a specific sound to Buddy logs on, but however when I click in test I can hear nothing
[21:11] <Minataku> Does it provide an option for what sound driver to use?
[21:15] <MurielGodoi> Minataku: nope, at least I couldn't find it in preferences
[21:16] <Minataku> Hm
[21:16] <Minataku> Sorry, I'm out of ideas then :(
[21:17] <MurielGodoi> Minataku: Can pidgin trying to use any specific gnome resource?
[21:18] <Minataku> No idea
[21:18] <MurielGodoi> Pidgin sounds works for you in kubuntu?
[21:21] <Minataku> I use neither
[21:21] <Minataku> Which is why I'm out of ideas
[21:21] <Minataku> lol
[21:21] <Minataku> Sorry X3
[21:22] <loguser1> can any one tell a good network moniterying app. that thats my the downloading and uploading speed .. (over all of all apps)
[21:25] <loguser1> ?
[21:25] <blizzzek> bye
[21:26] <jhutchins> !paste
[21:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:26] <MurielGodoi> Minataku: that is okay,  thanks anyway
[21:26] <jhutchins> loguser1: Hang on a sec...
[21:26] <loguser1> ok
[21:26] <Drekky> swoyûk
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[21:27] <Drekky> zubbb
[21:27] <Drekky> huj
[21:27] <Drekky> poyubl ka yû yüoal do ?
[21:27] <tekteen> hi all
[21:28] <Drekky> poyubl ka yû yüoal do ?
[21:28] <marcreichelt> hi there
[21:28] <jhutchins> loguser1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45300/
[21:28] <jhutchins> 85 lines of bash
[21:28] <marcreichelt> is an update for Kubuntu 7.10 available that is not damaged (meaning software updates)?
[21:29] <Drekky> poyubl ka yû yüoal do ?
[21:29] <ardchoille> Drekky: Which language?
[21:30] <inteliwasp> does anyone know about efi partition tables?
[21:30] <Drekky> no langauge, just my sister
[21:30] <BluesKaj> he's in france , ardchoille
[21:30] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[21:30] <BluesKaj> but that ain't french
[21:30] <ardchoille> I was gonna say that
[21:30] <jhutchins> No, that's troll.
[21:31] <BluesKaj> croatian or something
[21:33]  * BluesKaj attempts to install google earth to run in wine
[21:33] <stdin> doesn't google earth run native?
[21:33] <inteliwasp> it does
[21:33]  * tekteen wonders why BluesKaj does not use the linux version
[21:34] <tekteen> It is in the medibuntu repo
[21:34] <BluesKaj> the linux vers won't run on 64bit with the new ati driver
[21:34] <tekteen> ok
[21:35] <trappist> BluesKaj: tried a 32bit chroot?
[21:35] <BluesKaj> not my setup at least ..the libgl.so is misplaced
[21:35] <trappist> BluesKaj: I had trouble even in the chroot with nvidia drivers, until I installed the nvidia drivers inside the chroot
[21:35] <BluesKaj> trappist, how is that done
[21:36] <trappist> BluesKaj: there's a debian howto somewhere that works fine for ubuntu, but I haven't done it in a while, and I don't plan to do it again - 32bit for me until I can do 64bit without a chroot
[21:36] <tekteen> !32bitchroot
[21:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 32bitchroot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:36] <tekteen> !chroot
[21:36] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[21:36] <BluesKaj> the drivers are ok fgl_glxgears is great
[21:37] <tekteen> BluesKaj: this it what u need
[21:37] <trappist> BluesKaj: yeah but fgl_glxgears is prolly 64bit
[21:38] <trappist> it probably just needs a 32bit gl lib to link to
[21:40] <acemo> is the bug that made kde4 beta4 unable to get packaged causing the same for kde4 rc1?
[21:40] <stdin> read the topic
[21:40] <jpatrick> acemo: nop, rc1 packages in progress
[21:40] <trappist> BluesKaj: hey have you tried installing ia32-libs? it seems to install some 32bit gl goodies
[21:41] <acemo> jpatrick: great \o/
[21:42] <trappist> I know the 64bit nvidia driver installer prompts you to install 32bit libs... maybe the ati driver just doesn't ship with those
[21:43] <vit_> gracias internet
[21:43] <vit_> ¨¨¨
[21:43] <vit_> _l_
[21:43] <jpatrick> !es
[21:43] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[21:44] <MurielGodoi> For the people who tried 64bit version,  Which are the main difficulties that you found?
[21:45] <trappist> MurielGodoi: to use flash and java plugins, wine, certain codecs, etc., you need a 32bit chroot.  I wouldn't recommend it for a desktop machine.
[21:45] <trappist> there are other solutions, but they mostly suck too.
[21:46] <BluesKaj> trappist, yeah ia32-libs is installed
[21:46] <intRandom> hey, does anyone know if we can expect to see KDE RC1 packages?
[21:46] <stdin> intRandom: /topic
[21:46] <MurielGodoi> trappist: okay thanks,  about about performance? any difference?
[21:47] <MurielGodoi> s/about about/and about
[21:47] <trappist> MurielGodoi: I can't give you a 1:1 comparison.  I haven't tried 64bit and 32bit on the same machine yet.  but my *impression* is that if I'm getting any boost at all from 64bit, it's not worth the hassle.
[21:48] <trappist> MurielGodoi: also, quite a few packages have 64bit-specific bugs, that I've spent a lot of time working through
[21:48] <trappist> kmail, Eterm, mrxvt, and trac for example
[21:49] <MurielGodoi> good.. so i will keep my 32bits version until i have a lot of free time to fight in that issues :) thanks
[21:49] <trappist> kmail can't do ntlm auth, Eterm has all kinds of problems, mrxvt won't go transparent, and trac is busted due to a 64bit bug in ... somethingsilver, I forget the package name
[21:50] <BluesKaj> trappist, what's the cmnd to use with schroot to install a bin pkg ?
[21:50] <tekteen> Does anyone know how to copy all the files in a VirtualBox image to a directory?
[21:50] <trappist> BluesKaj: first you enter the chroot (chroot into it), then it's the same as anything else... sudo apt-get install ...
[21:51] <BluesKaj> it's abinary
[21:53] <trappist> apparently I'm not understanding your question
[21:53] <trappist> tekteen: never worked with virtualbox, but with vmware it's possible (with some work) to mount the image similarly to an iso
[21:54] <trappist> tekteen: maybe google for "mount virtualbox image" or so
[21:54] <tekteen> thanks
[21:55] <tekteen> I am giving a talk where I will need to switch between 4 different images and chroot might be better then virtualbox
[21:55] <BluesKaj> trappist the app is a .bin file ...all thats required is the ./ "pkgname " where does schroot come in ?
[21:56] <niko__> hi guys
[21:57] <niko__> it's a lot of time that i don't came here
[21:57] <bbm4n> guys my a friend of mine is having problems installing kubuntu 7.10
[21:57] <niko__> kubuntu italian?
[21:57] <tekteen> bbm4n: what is the problem?
[21:57] <stdin> !it
[21:57] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:57] <niko__> thnx
his system freezes in fisrt screen
 where you must choose installation
 mem test e.t.c.
[21:58] <tekteen> ok
 how is that possible?
[21:59] <tekteen> the boot loader
[21:59] <trappist> BluesKaj: first you have to set up the chroot, which is basically installing an OS in it.  once that's all done, you'd copy the .bin into the chroot, chroot into it, then probably chmod +x it and ./ it.
[21:59] <tekteen> is the keyboard working
[21:59] <tekteen> ?
 wait i'll ask him
 yes
[22:00]  * trappist &
[22:00] <tekteen> what does he mean that it freezes?
 when he presses the options nothing happens
[22:01] <tekteen> the disk could have a defect
 the cd-rom?
[22:01] <tekteen> yep
[22:02] <tekteen> can u test it on another machine
 i'll ask him
[22:02] <gambix> is there some news about the release of kde4 rc1 on kubuntu...?*
[22:04] <ardchoille> gambix: An rss feed reader is a great way to get up-to-date news daily: http://dot.kde.org/1195581531/
[22:04] <root_> hey, I have a binary that was compiled 32 using Qt.
[22:04] <root_> can I run on a machine with kubuntu 64bit?
[22:04] <root_> if yes, how?
[22:04] <tekteen> root_: yes
[22:04] <jpatrick> root_: why are you on irc as root??
[22:05] <root_> jpatrick: don't bitch me for my security policies :)
[22:05] <tekteen> root_: download the 64 bit version of kubuntu
[22:05] <jpatrick> suit yourself
[22:05] <root_> tekteen: what do you mean
[22:05]  * tekteen names the root account god on his system
[22:05] <ardchoille> root_: If you're going to irc as root, many folks won't even bother helping you since it appears you care nothing about your own system.
[22:05] <gambix> ardchoille: it's not the answer to my ask...
[22:05] <root_> # linux32 ./qusbview
[22:05] <root_> ./qusbview: error while loading shared libraries: libQtGui.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:05] <tekteen> root_: hold on
[22:06] <root_> tekteen: I already have kubuntu64
[22:06] <NeoFax> I am having a problem connecting with a FE to my BE.  MySQL errors saying hostname.local not allowed.  However, I have the BE setup to allow from any host using the % in the privileges.
[22:06] <ardchoille> gambix: But, with an rss feed reader, you get the news directly from Ubuntu :)
[22:06] <tekteen> ok
[22:06] <tekteen> root: I know of a way
[22:07] <tekteen> !chroot | root_
[22:07] <ubotu> root_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[22:07] <root_> ok so I nedd a chroot. mh. ok thanks tekteen
[22:07] <root_> bye :)
[22:08] <root_> thank you very much
[22:08] <tekteen> bye
[22:09] <DrakeJustice_> props to tekteen
[22:09]  * tekteen thanks his fans :-)
[22:09] <venik> Overall performance under 7.10 is definiteeely more sluggish than it used to be, especially while using a browser.  Do other people have the same experience?
[22:10] <venik> Overall performance under 7.10 is definiteeely more sluggish than it used to be under 7.04, especially while using a browser.  Do other people have the same experience?
[22:10] <NeoFax> Any MySQL experts?
[22:11] <juacom99> i'm not an expert
[22:11] <juacom99> but i know mysql
[22:11] <tekteen> I only know the basics
[22:11] <juacom99> what's thwe problem NeoFax
[22:11] <BluesKaj> venik, try disabling IPv6 in your browser
[22:11] <NeoFax> I am having a problem connecting to my server from another PC
[22:11] <juacom99> ok
[22:11] <venik> I have tried disabling ipv6, but it did not make any difference
[22:11] <juacom99> do you use a firewall??
[22:12] <NeoFax> It states hostname.local not allowed.  However, in the privileges I have allowed %, which manys any host
[22:12] <NeoFax> Yes, but this is all behind the firewall
[22:12] <juacom99> if you are in other PC is not behind the firewall
 my friend says it works on another pc
[22:13] <tekteen> ok
[22:13] <NeoFax> I am trying to connect 192,168.1.x to 192.168.1.y.  However, DNS automatically changes it to the hostname+.local.
[22:13] <juacom99> try addin an exeption for mysql in the firewall
 so it is the cd drives problem?
[22:13] <venik> I wonder whether they have "upgraded" the network card driver..
[22:13] <tekteen> what type of keyboard is it?
[22:13] <tekteen> it should work
[22:13] <tekteen> have u tested the cdrom
 me?
[22:14] <tekteen> yep
[22:14] <tekteen> u
 yes
 he says it runs on another pc
[22:14] <tekteen> bbm4n: sorry, the cdrom drive
[22:15] <NeoFax> juacom99: OK, changed the firewall to allow traffic over 3306.  Still same problem.
 he asks about the minimum memory this is like 256 for kde is it not?
[22:15] <juacom99> mm let me think...
[22:15] <dorkface> Hi all.  Where can I see what drivers I am using for my wired interface?  I've tried using "lspci -vvv" but I could not find anything about them..
[22:16] <tekteen> bbm4n: that would not effect this stage of the boot but on a machine like that I would use the alternate install cd
[22:17] <NeoFax> dorkface: Use dmesg | less Then look for the eth0 statement
[22:17] <tekteen> btw it does require that
[22:17] <venik> this is Dell Dimension 4550, with a 1 gb RAM, with an ATI video card and driver
 ok
 thanks
 one point for tekteen!
[22:18] <hlopez> Hi
[22:18] <BluesKaj> !chroot
[22:18] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[22:18] <hlopez> Anyone knows how to config eth0 in Mandriva?
[22:18]  * tekteen welcomes the applause
[22:18] <loguser1> i just installed trickler , an app. but i cant see it in any menu. how do i run it?
[22:19] <tekteen> from his fans
[22:19] <NeoFax> hlopez: Do they use NetworkManager?
[22:19] <hlopez> No
[22:19] <loguser1> trickle*
[22:20] <NeoFax> OK, then sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces.  Change the settings in this file.
[22:20] <hlopez> I just download the last dist, and i Can´t open pppoeconf (like in Kubuntu)
[22:20] <NeoFax> What does ifconfig say?
[22:21] <tekteen> loguser1: open up the konsole
[22:21] <tekteen> loguser1: then see if "trickle" is a command
[22:21] <hlopez> ufff, i can tell, i'm in Kubuntu right now
[22:21] <loguser1> tekteen:  oook
[22:22] <loguser1> yes got it. but it doesnt shows me the network usage.
[22:22] <loguser1> Usage: trickle [-hvVs] [-d <rate>] [-u <rate>] [-w <length>] [-t <seconds>]
[22:22] <loguser1>                [-l <length>] [-n <path>] command ...
[22:22] <loguser1>         -h           Help (this)
[22:22] <loguser1>         -v           Increase verbosity level
[22:22] <hlopez> Ok
[22:22] <loguser1>         -V           Print trickle version
[22:22] <tekteen> does it a graphical interface
[22:22] <loguser1>         -s           Run trickle in standalone mode independent of trickled
[22:23] <loguser1>         -d <rate>    Set maximum cumulative download rate to <rate> KB/s
[22:23] <hlopez> yes
[22:23] <loguser1>         -u <rate>    Set maximum cumulative upload rate to <rate> KB/s
[22:23] <loguser1>         -w <length>  Set window length to <length> KB
[22:23] <loguser1>         -t <seconds> Set default smoothing time to <seconds> s
[22:23] <loguser1>         -l <length>  Set default smoothing length to <length> KB
[22:23] <loguser1>         -n <path>    Use trickled socket name <path>
[22:23] <loguser1>         -L <ms>      Set latency to <ms> milliseconds
[22:23] <loguser1> thats what iam looking for
[22:23] <tekteen> !paste | loguser1
[22:23] <ubotu> loguser1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:23] <hlopez> Ok i'll go for it, thanks
[22:23] <loguser1> i want an app that shows me the speed of my internet...................
[22:23] <hlopez> I have to shutdown mi PC first
[22:23] <NeoFax> juacom99: Anything?
[22:23] <hlopez> bye
[22:24] <tekteen> is it a graphical interface
[22:24] <tekteen> ?
[22:24] <juacom99> no :S
[22:24] <hlopez> thanks for everything
[22:24] <juacom99> i'm lost
[22:24] <juacom99> it should let you connect to the other machine :S
[22:24] <hlopez> Bye bye Loguser1
[22:25] <tekteen> I think it is command line only, loguser1:
[22:25] <juacom99> are you ion windows or ion linux??
[22:25] <NeoFax> juacom99: That is what I thought as well.  I will have to try in the MySQL forums or IRC.  Thanks!
[22:25] <NeoFax> I am in windows.  Connecting from Debian to Ubuntu.
[22:26] <juacom99> you lost me
[22:26] <juacom99> are you in windows or in debian??
[22:27] <loguser1> i need a graphical stat shower of my internet speed. and trafic.
[22:27] <tekteen> kSysGuard
[22:28] <tekteen> loguser1: goto kmenu > system > kSysGuard
[22:28] <loguser1> k
[22:28] <tekteen> it does not have it
[22:29] <loguser1> oh no. thats sys speed. iam talking abt internet spped
[22:29] <tekteen> sorry, thought it did
[22:29] <loguser1> ok
[22:29] <tekteen> one sec
[22:29] <loguser1> k
[22:29] <NeoFax> juacom99: I am in debian
[22:30] <juacom99> ok Mysql is in..??
[22:30] <NeoFax> loguser1: Try Gkrellm, superkaramba(KDE), Gdesklet(GNOME)
[22:30] <NeoFax> Or my favorite conky
[22:30] <tekteen> loguser1: I think the cli command ntop does it
[22:30] <MilitantHippie> Hi, could anyone help me getting my wireless network card working?
[22:30] <tekteen> loguser1: I am testing it
[22:30] <loguser1> i need graphical
[22:30] <NeoFax> juacom99: It is on the Kubuntu machine.
[22:30] <loguser1> NeoFax:  ok
[22:31] <juacom99> ok
[22:31] <NeoFax> loguser1: You will need to go to kde-look.org for superkaramba themes if you choose that one.
[22:31] <juacom99> so you alowd mysql port on kubuntu machine??
[22:32] <NeoFax> Yes
[22:32] <NeoFax> My router routes traffic to 192.168.1.y:3306
[22:32] <juacom99> is relly rear
[22:32] <juacom99> *rare
[22:34] <loguser1> any other
[22:34] <loguser1> ?
[22:35] <tekteen> loguser: ksysguard does do it
[22:35] <loguser1> how
[22:35] <tekteen> U need to select it to be viewed
[22:35] <loguser1> from where
[22:35] <NeoFax> knemo does as well
[22:36] <tekteen> go with Neo Fax's Idea
[22:37] <loguser1> k
[22:37] <juacom99> NeoFax: tencnicaly the lan connection should be alowd in your router anyway
[22:37] <NeoFax> True, but it never hurts
[22:38] <juacom99> NeoFax: lol
[22:38] <juacom99> why the hell is your pc :S
[22:38] <juacom99> doing that :S
[22:38] <loguser1> ya.         .  knemo looks good. going to install
[22:39] <NeoFax> Never know.  Could be like /etc/hosts not changing the name correctly.  i.e. comes across the lan as hostname, but translates to hostname+.local at the other end
[22:41] <loguser1> NeoFax:  is there a good way to know on which menu is a newly install app present.........................
[22:41] <loguser1> i installed knemo . now where to run it. i can find it any where in any menu
[22:41] <NeoFax> loguser1: just run knemo from the CLI
[22:41] <loguser1> cli?
[22:41] <NeoFax> It should be in kcontrol
[22:41] <stdin> !cli
[22:42] <loguser1> comand line
[22:42] <stdin> no ubotu :p
[22:42] <ardchoille> Who broke the bot?
[22:42] <stdin> ardchoille: netsplit
[22:42] <tekteen> !ubotu
[22:42] <ardchoille> ah
[22:42] <NeoFax> loguser1: cli=command line interface
[22:42] <tekteen> ubotu left
[22:43] <stdin> seems on or two servers split, and ubotu just would be on one. he's unlucky like they
[22:43] <loguser1> loguser1@loguser1-pc1dtop1:~$ knemo
[22:43] <loguser1> bash: knemo: command not found
[22:44] <loguser1> what now
[22:46] <ardchoille> loguser1: sudo apt-get install knemo
[22:46] <loguser1> its already installed
[22:46] <ardchoille> Type this in cli: which knemo
[22:46] <ardchoille> loguser1: Ah, it's a kicker applet, you need to add it to kicker to use it
[22:47] <loguser1> loguser1@loguser1-pc1dtop1:~$ which knemo
[22:47] <loguser1> loguser1@loguser1-pc1dtop1:~$
[22:47] <loguser1> ardchoille:  how
[22:49] <loguser1> ardchoille:  how
[22:49] <master_> ciao
[22:49] <ardchoille> loguser1: Right click the panel, choose Add applet to panel, search for the applet and add it to the panel
[22:51] <lol> salut
[22:51] <lol> je suis nouveau sous kubuntu
[22:51] <neofax99> loguser1: Try this:  http://s242.photobucket.com/albums/ff46/neofax/?action=view&current=knemo.png
[22:52] <loguser1> well. the applet is not in the list..
[22:52] <neofax99> To get there do in KDE Alt+F2.  In the run command type kcontrol.
[22:52] <lol> lol
[22:52] <neofax99> You may need to logout of KDE for it to take
[22:53] <ardchoille> loguser1: type this in cli: apt-cache policy knemo | grep Installed
[22:53] <lol> My name is LOL
[22:54] <ardchoille> lol: I cannot begin to tell you how many times you will get hilighted
[22:54] <loguser1> k
[22:54] <tekteen> lol
[22:56] <ardchoille> loguser1: Did it tell you which version was installed?
[23:03] <josei> hola a todos
[23:03] <josei> soy novato en esto
[23:03] <josei> hay mas canales?
[23:04] <stdin> !es
[23:04] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:08] <MilitantPotato> Hey
[23:08] <MilitantPotato> my wife's PC can see my samba shares aswell as her own, but I can't see our workgroup
[23:08] <ardchoille> hi MilitantPotato
[23:09] <fyrmedic> What is the best way to synchronize my laptop with my desktop?
[23:09] <fyrmedic> rsync or something else?
[23:10] <MilitantPotato> via the web?
[23:10] <BluesKaj> MilitantPotato, depending on yout lans speed and wifes pc speed , it can sometimes take up to 15 secs for the workgroup to show up on konq using smb:/
[23:10] <fyrmedic> no local
[23:11] <MilitantPotato> BluesKaj: it's saying Unable to find any workgroups on your local network.  A firewall could be blocking it.
[23:11] <MilitantPotato> When I attempt to browse the samba network
[23:11] <eljefe__> Anyone read Linux Journal?  There was an article some time ago about making DVDs and it mentioned a good program used to encode video to be DVD-compliant... what was it??
[23:12] <vbgunz> anybody play foolbillard in Gutsy? it worked beautifully in Feisty *but* relaunching it for the first time in Gutsy, something is wrong with the display :(
[23:12] <BluesKaj> what are you browsing with, MilitantPotato ?
[23:12] <vbgunz> I mean, the graphics shimmer, glitter, vibrate, not sure how to explain it :(
[23:13] <MilitantPotato> Dolphin
[23:13] <MilitantPotato> weird, i think it's just not saving the config I entered in KControl
[23:14] <eljefe__> or, how can I create a DVD with an mpeg slideshor from Digikam?
[23:15] <BluesKaj> hmm, never tried dolphin , konq always works with smb
[23:16] <MilitantPotato> oops stopped networking :D
[23:16]  * BluesKaj has to study up on chroot , but it seems like a heck of alot of trouble just to get google earth to work on amd64 gutsy
[23:17] <stdin> BluesKaj: that was the only way to do flash/java not too long ago
[23:18] <BluesKaj> <---- naturally lazy and not too inclined to do it tonite :)
[23:20] <BluesKaj> stdin, the proprietary 8.42 ATI driver is quite fast vs the old restricted on fgl_ glxgears ...over 50% more fps
[23:21] <stdin> I have an intel GPU, it's more than enough for compiz and 3d accelerated stuff and has open drivers </gloat>
[23:23] <SlimG> Does anyone have links to screenshots etc. for the KDE4 RC1 ?
[23:23] <Dragnslcr> Heh, that's one of the main reasons I got a Dellbuntu laptop for my girlfriend
[23:23] <BluesKaj> yeah , I know I should quit griping and get a decent grphx card :)
[23:25] <Dragnslcr> kubuntu.org says KDE4 RC1 packages are available
[23:25] <Dragnslcr> (in case anyone wants to change the topic)
[23:26] <Dragnslcr> I saw that and thought "wow, RC1? The final release isn't supposed to be until December"
[23:26] <Dragnslcr> Then I realized that it's already late November
[23:27] <MilitantPotato> .
[23:30] <MilitantPotato> :(
[23:31] <bmk789__> do bluetooth headphones work in KDE?
[23:31] <stdin> !bluetooth
[23:31] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[23:31] <stdin> maybe
[23:33] <MilitantPotato> test
[23:33] <Dragnslcr> MilitantPotato- fail
[23:33] <MilitantPotato> :(
[23:34] <ardchoille> lol
[23:34] <bicareloaded-lin> Hay actividad aqui???
[23:36] <Dragnslcr> Will the new KDE4 packages eventually (before 8.04) get moved over to the standard repositories, or will the 7.10 packages always be in a special repository that you have to add manually?
[23:40] <acemo> is it bad if i didnt remove the kdelibs5 before trying to install kde4 rc1?
[23:41] <acemo> i cant remove the kdelibs5 now, but cant install kde4 rc1 either..
[23:53] <acemo> is it bad if i didnt remove the kdelibs5 before trying to install kde4 rc1?
[23:53] <acemo> i cant remove the kdelibs5 now, but cant install kde4 rc1 either..
[23:54] <stdin> acemo: re recommend removing ALL previous packages
[23:54] <stdin> *we
[23:54] <stdin> unless you know how to use dpkg well
[23:55] <acemo> stdin: what i did was just update and upgrade after adding the repository
[23:55] <stdin> not a good idea
[23:55] <stdin> files and packages have changed
[23:55] <acemo> i noticed
[23:55] <stdin> you really should purge all the old packages then install the new ones
[23:56] <stdin> just updating won't even install all the packages, even if it did install it would be incomplete
[23:56] <acemo> stdin: yeah i noticed
[23:57] <stdin> and you'll also notice a new version of konversation in there too, but that's just my fault there :P
[23:59] <acemo> stdin: heres the output of trying to remove kdelibs5 now... http://pastebin.com/m20c48d84