[00:15] <jamesh> thumper: ping?
[00:15] <thumper> jamesh: pong
[00:17] <jamesh> thumper: I'm getting timeouts trying to access Launchpad at the moment.  I was wondering if it is just my connection or something further upstream
[00:17] <thumper> jamesh: edge?
[00:17] <jamesh> yeah
[00:17] <thumper> seems ok to me
[00:18] <thumper> what sort of things are you doing?
[00:18] <thumper> I just went to the bzr overview and code page
[00:18] <thumper> no problems
[00:18] <jamesh> I'm also timing out on the Canonical IRC server
[00:20] <thumper> jamesh: I think it is just you
[00:20] <thumper> or your connection to the UK
[00:20] <jamesh> thumper: thanks.  I guess I'll check with my ISP
[00:20] <thumper> jamesh: ok
[02:18] <aleka> What is the average lag time between requesting a translation .po file and receiving it via email on LP?
[02:35] <Hobbsee> sabdfl: :D  thanks!
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #163968 in malone "Problems with drop down list on incorrect team name" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163968
[03:38] <sabdfl> sure Hobbsee
[03:42]  * Hobbsee throws more stuff at ppa
[05:38]  * Hobbsee pokes launchpad
[05:39] <Hobbsee> error ID  OOPS-689EA15
[05:39] <Hobbsee> mpt: do you want a bug for a broken URL, or do you want to just fix it?
[05:40] <Hobbsee> +editemail != +contactaddress
[05:41] <Hobbsee> bwah?
[05:41] <Hobbsee> it appears these are 2 separate sections now.
[05:41] <mpt> Hobbsee, I can use grep :-)
[05:41] <Hobbsee> what happened to the old manage email addresses page, where you could select the default?
[05:41] <Hobbsee> and why do we have this duplication?
[05:42] <Hobbsee> mpt: https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-members/+editemail is a 404, but apparently shouldn't point to https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/+contactaddress
[05:42] <Hobbsee> because the dialog is different
[05:43]  * Hobbsee wonders how one is supposed to set the default email address now.
[05:43] <Hobbsee> or remove them.
[05:45]  * Fujitsu guesses it's due to the new mailinglist crack.
[05:45] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: would be odd...
[05:46] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: you used to be able to manage addresses for people and teams, and set the default
[05:46] <Hobbsee> but i like this "notify the email, or notify everyone on the team" bit.
[05:47] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: It's like that on production too, so it's not a particularly new thing.
[05:47] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: how weird!
[05:48]  * Fujitsu wonders how the upgrade can manage to take 3.5 hours.
[05:48] <Hobbsee> mpt: i think i'll file a bug on this - because they're not the same dialog
[05:48] <Fujitsu> Some translation schema changes, I guess...
[05:48] <Hobbsee> and hey, one of my bugs got fixed in a day, so maybe it's worth reporting them :P
[05:49] <Fujitsu> Nice.
[05:49] <Hobbsee> was a soyuz regression bug, but still :)
[05:50] <mpt> Hobbsee, yeah, it's a mistake that has its own typo
[05:50] <Hobbsee> mpt: ah, goody :)
[05:50] <Hobbsee> mpt: can i ask why we have 2 dialogs for essentially the same thing?
[05:50] <mpt> Because barry needs more coffee
[05:51] <Hobbsee> a logical enough reason, i guess :)
[05:51] <stdin> do ppa's look in ${release}-backports ?
[05:51] <mpt> It should be one page that shows different stuff depending on whether it's yourself or a team you're dealing with
[05:52] <mpt> not two pages with one of them hidden by a typo
[05:52] <Hobbsee> mpt: got it :)
[05:52] <stdin> or can they?
[05:52] <mpt> thanks Hobbsee 
[05:52] <Fujitsu> stdin: They do not.
[05:52] <Hobbsee> mpt: you're welcome, thanks for fixing it.
[05:59]  * thumper checks for reviewer meeting
[06:00]  * thumper notices it isn't on just yet, and heads back to the BBQ
[06:00]  * Hobbsee heads off to work
[06:02]  * thumper wishes he had a little program to send an SMS when pinged...
[06:02] <jamesh> I think it is time for the review meeting
[06:02] <jamesh> who is here?
[06:05] <thumper> me
[06:05] <thumper> sort of
[06:05] <thumper> BBQ is cooking dinner
[06:05] <thumper> :)
[06:05] <jamesh> spiv, lifeless: ping for review meeting?
[06:05] <jamesh> I guess jml and jtv won't be available
[06:06] <thumper> nah, jml won't be making it today
[06:06]  * thumper smells good food, garlic mushrooms I think...
[06:07] <thumper> jamesh: it might just be you and me
[06:07] <jamesh> I don't think there is much to discuss, so it'll be short
[06:08] <thumper> there seems to be quite a few branches that didn't make it all the way through the review process for 1.1.11
[06:08] <jamesh> any problem holding next weeks meeting at the same time?
[06:08] <thumper> but the current queue is short
[06:08] <thumper> same time is fine for me
[06:09] <jamesh> I wonder how many of those branches were submitted for merge?
[06:09] <thumper> I'm going to propose that they decide in the US/EU meeting that we implement the slots
[06:09] <thumper> and suggest people no longer use the general queue
[06:09] <thumper> not sure about the number submitted
[06:09] <jamesh> given that there aren't many people here it is probably best to do the review process discussion on list
[06:09] <thumper> it seems that quite a few got stuck in needs-reply
[06:09] <thumper> jamesh: fair enough
[06:10] <thumper> I think that almost everyone agrees anyway
[06:10]  * thumper smells burning
[06:11] <thumper> jamesh: I don't have anything else particular to bring up
[06:11] <thumper> jamesh: do you?
[06:11] <jamesh> nope.
[06:11] <thumper> ok, it looks like we're done then
[06:11] <thumper> thanks jamesh
[06:11]  * thumper heads back to food and the BBQ
[06:15] <lifeless> thanks jamesh; 
[06:16] <lifeless> I started at 5am; finished earlier and was awol at the meeting time.
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #163991 in malone "Attachments for initial comment are not displayed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163991
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #163997 in soyuz "Subject of Soyuz binaryful acceptance emails, emails, emails, emails, emails, emails stutter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163997
[07:24] <carlos> morning
[07:24] <Fujitsu> Morning carlos.
[09:36] <mrevell> morning
[09:39] <Fujitsu> Hmm... Am I missing something, or are security uploads no longer being announced to *-changes?
[09:39] <Fujitsu> That seems to be a fairly nasty regression.
[09:42] <slytherin> Hi. Has anyone else noticed this. Changing the ownership of a bzr branch doesn't change the url in branch/bound i.e. target branch
[09:43] <Fujitsu> Right, there have been no security uploads announced to -changes since they day before 1.1.10.
[09:43]  * Fujitsu files a bug.
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #164027 in soyuz "As of 1.1.10, security uploads no longer generate announcements to <distroseries>-changes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164027
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #164029 in launchpad-bazaar "Changing owner of a branch does not change target url in branch/bound" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164029
[10:11] <Fujitsu> slytherin: Erm, how is Launchpad going to modify your local branch?
[10:12] <slytherin> Fujitsu: no. this is not about modifying local branch. I synced/pulled from launchpad from scratch.
[10:12] <Fujitsu> slytherin: Which URL did you pull from?
[10:13] <slytherin> Fujitsu: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apt-offline/apt-offline/dev
[10:14] <Fujitsu> slytherin: Works fine for me.
[10:14] <Fujitsu> It would be the local bzr setting that URL, anyway.
[10:15] <slytherin> Fujitsu: works fine as in? what did you try?
[10:15] <Fujitsu> slytherin: I bzr got it.
[10:16] <Fujitsu> Then bzr upped and bzr infoed it.
[10:17] <slytherin> let me try pull from scratch once again
[10:18] <Fujitsu> I suspect you were using an old branch (accidentally or otherwise), as I don't see where it could get that URL otherwise.
[10:50] <slytherin> Fujitsu: hmm. looks like it is not a bug. my bad. I will try a few things first and then close it as invalid
[11:40]  * Hobbsee waves
[12:09] <stdin> hmm, is there a limit (quota) for ppa's?
[12:10] <Hobbsee> stdin: 1gb, but not yet
[12:10] <Hobbsee> not until you can remove packages
[12:10] <stdin> Hobbsee: good, because apparently I'm using 4.4GB
[12:14] <mrevell> The 1gb quote will almost certainly be negotiable
[12:14] <mrevell> s/quote/quota
[12:15]  * Hobbsee waves to mrevell and carlos
[12:15] <mrevell> yo Hobbsee
[12:15] <mrevell> Hmm, I'm gonna take a lunch break. biab
[12:29]  * Hobbsee waves to Spads
[12:29]  * Spads waves in return
[12:35] <gnomefreak> are the buildds for ppa hardy messed up by chance?
[12:37] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: which in particular?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> not sure atm but it was 386 64 and the other arch all failed, said failed to apply or remove patch but builds fine locally
[12:38] <gnomefreak> let me see if i can find it
[12:39] <gnomefreak> its a bunch of them
[12:39] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: if you've got a build log, that would be handy
[12:40] <gnomefreak> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10478174/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.nss_3.12.0%7Ecvs20071118t2115-0ubuntu1%7Eppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz  failed during make not patches
[12:42] <gnomefreak> all nss failed that way
[12:42] <gnomefreak> nspr failed with http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10478117/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.nspr_4.7.0%7Ecvs20071106t1834-0ubuntu1%7Eppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[12:43] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: how's that a failed to apply or remove patch?
[12:43] <gnomefreak> nspr is the failed patch Applying patch 30_config_64bits.patch
[12:43] <gnomefreak> patching file mozilla/nsprpub/configure.in
[12:43] <gnomefreak> Hunk #1 FAILED at 52.
[12:43] <gnomefreak> Hunk #2 FAILED at 218.
[12:43] <gnomefreak> 2 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- rejects in file mozilla/nsprpub/configure.in
[12:43] <gnomefreak> Patch 30_config_64bits.patch can be reverse-applied
[12:43] <gnomefreak> nss is glibc errors
[12:44] <Hobbsee> i'd only looked at the first one
[12:44] <Hobbsee> that would be...rather odd for that to build locally
[12:44] <gnomefreak> nss (the first one) is glibc errors and come to think of it i have a bug on that, but why would it build cleanly here
[12:45] <gnomefreak> i built and have it installed
[12:45] <Hobbsee> what are you building in?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/246174
[12:46] <gnomefreak> that is build dir for nss
[12:46] <gnomefreak> im building it in hardy system
[12:46] <gnomefreak> no chroot no pbuilder just system
[12:47] <Hobbsee> head-->desk.
[12:47] <Hobbsee> try it in a proper builder (sbuild or pbuilder), and see if it still breaks.
[12:47] <gnomefreak> nspr xulrunner and ff3 also built fine here
[12:47]  * gnomefreak doesnt know how to use pbuilder thats why i use chroots
[12:47] <Hobbsee> asked for help?
[12:48] <Hobbsee> followed !pbuilder?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> i didnt think there was a need since it built fine here
[12:48] <Hobbsee> you need a clean source, and a clean build place, how else do you expect it to work fine on others systems?
[12:48]  * Hobbsee wonders if the patch is already applied or something, so that's why it's bailing.
[12:49] <gnomefreak> i didnt add patches i just renamed already built sources and re tared the dir up and changelog edit
[12:49] <Fujitsu> pbuilders are easier to use than plain chroots, and actually do sane things.
[12:50]  * Hobbsee tries it here
[12:50] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: nspr needs to be first build
[12:51] <gnomefreak> cant remember what version of nspr and nss are in hardy but since i was building it for ppa nsor than nss than xulrunner than ff3
[12:53] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: OK, so it doesnt apply here
[12:53] <gnomefreak> it does here :(
[12:53]  * gnomefreak wonders why
[12:54] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: debian/patches/30_config_64bits.patch is already applied to your source.
[12:54]  * Hobbsee thinks you screwed over your source, and didn't rebuild in a clean place
[12:55] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: in fact, both 30_'s have been applied, adn it's bad to have 2 patches starting with the same #
[12:55] <Hobbsee> methinks you applied the patches to the source, *then* built the source.
[12:55] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: i didnt make the patches i only took already built sources from someones archive to build for ppa
[12:56] <gnomefreak> might have i will try cleaning it up and trying again
[12:56] <Hobbsee> yup, they're all already applied.
[12:56] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: who was the someone, and do you trust their packaging skills to be sane?  :)
[12:57] <gnomefreak> yes i trust them
[12:57] <gnomefreak> they started on 3.0 right after alpha1
[12:57] <Hobbsee> then either their source was wrong...or yours is :)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> i think i know what happened its my fault if im right
[12:58] <Hobbsee> the patches got applied manually, it appears, and then the source got built.
[13:40] <AnMaster> hey is there a way to get new commits in a branch hosted on launchpad as rss, subscribing seems to be email only, right?
[13:41] <AnMaster> I just want rss with the commit message of new commits
[13:43] <gmb> AnMaster: At the moment that functionality isn't available. However, it is being worked on :)
[13:43] <AnMaster> ah I see
[13:49] <cavedon> hi all!
[13:50] <cavedon> mrevell, SteveA: what about launchapd-beta-testers membership approvation?
[13:51] <mrevell> cavedon: Hi, have you have applied for membership?
[13:51] <cavedon> I made a resquest a couple of days ago
[13:51] <cavedon> on 17th
[13:52] <mrevell> cavedon: I've approved your membership. welcome to the team
[13:53] <cavedon> mrevell: thank you!
[13:53] <mrevell> np :)
[14:25] <lamont> cprov: could I talk you into a mass-give-back on lpia/hardy?
[14:25] <lamont> I get tired of clicking
[14:25] <ubotu> New bug: #164065 in launchpad-bazaar "more revision properties" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164065
[14:25] <Hobbsee> lamont: another greasemonkey script required?
[14:25] <lamont> that's more than a script...
[14:25] <Hobbsee> ooh, more interesting options here
[14:25] <Hobbsee> oh i know :)
[14:26] <Hobbsee> lamont: it's yours that does the build rescores in a click, isnt it?
[14:26] <lamont> mithrandir is more to blame for it - I just use it.
[14:26] <lamont> otoh, the version I have is currently broken (claims to work, doesn't change anything)
[14:26] <cprov> lamont: I'm about to leave for lunch, can we talk when I come back or is it urgent ?
[14:26] <Hobbsee> lamont: the one i'm using works fine
[14:26]  * lamont wishes those LP guys would quit breaking greasemonkey scripts with their changes...
[14:26] <lamont> cprov: no hurry
[14:27] <lamont> there are a bunch of failures and I'm too lazy to figure out which ones
[14:27] <lamont> :-)
[14:27] <cprov> lamont: ok, talk to you in bit.
[14:27] <lamont> Hobbsee: hrm... could be that retry works, and rescore is b0rked.  dunno
[14:28] <Hobbsee> lamont: although, it appears to just say it's worked, show the correct increment, but not go back to the previous page
[14:28] <Hobbsee> which should be simple to fix, but i dont speak greasemonkeyesque.
[14:29] <lamont> I don't mind it not going back a page... what I was seeing was that when I went back to the build queue and hit shift-reload, I didn't see the new scores.
[14:29] <lamont> which is, um, strange
[14:29] <Hobbsee> weird.  i'd say yours is borken
[14:30] <lamont> cprov-lunch: actually, the bigger question is why lpia isn't doing anything with the 300+ builds it has in needs-build...
[14:30] <Hobbsee> lamont: i was wondering that earlier.
[14:31] <lamont> hppa is back below 2600 needs-builds... :-(
[14:32] <Hobbsee> mrevell: u-d mail unmoderated btw.
[14:32] <mrevell> Hobbsee: Thanks. I thought I was a member. I'll have to rejoin.
[14:33] <Hobbsee> mrevell: for non-developers, it's moderated.
[14:33] <Hobbsee> and as you're not a part of ~ubuntu-dev...
[14:33] <mrevell> Hobbsee: Ah right...
[14:33] <Hobbsee> :)
[14:47] <lamont> cprov-lunch: and ~lamont/chroot-fresh has freshened hardy chroots to help speed the build process along a little
[14:49]  * lamont heads officewards
[14:56] <ubotu> New bug: #164071 in malone "The comments in +text are difficult to read" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164071
[18:05] <ubotu> New bug: #164136 in rosetta "+translate page triggering a ShortListTimeOutError" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164136
[18:35] <ubotu> New bug: #164144 in launchpad "oops tools should categorize ProtocolErrorException in a different section" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164144
[18:46] <crevette> hello
[18:47] <crevette> is there people here which can help me with liblaunchpad-integration APIs ?
[18:48] <glatzor> Hello, I would need to remove some file from a PPA, since I made a versioning error
[18:55] <crevette> how can I integrate liblaunchpad-integration with glade ?
[18:56] <crevette> gcalctool migrates to glade
[18:56] <crevette> migrated even
[19:01] <carlos> crevette: you mean to get the extra entries in the Help menu?
[19:11] <glatzor> crevette: take a look at synaptic
[19:11] <glatzor> crevette: basically a three line patch:
[19:12] <glatzor> +#include <launchpad-integration.h>+   widget = glade_xml_get_widget (_gladeXML, "help1_menu");
[19:12] <glatzor> +   launchpad_integration_add_items (widget, -1, TRUE, TRUE);
[19:24] <crevette> thanks glatzor
[19:35] <jelmer> is there some XML/RPC that can be used to obtain the list of branches registered on launchpad?
[19:45] <ubotu> New bug: #164162 in launchpad "OOPS when requesting a non-existent host" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164162
[20:31] <thumper> morning lunch padders
[21:00] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[21:08] <thumper> morning mpt
[21:23] <cr3> is there a plan to make code.launchpad.net support private branches?
[21:24] <thumper> cr3: yes, why?
[21:38] <cr3> thumper: I would very much like that for my own projects :) is there any scheduled date for this feature?
[21:39] <thumper> cr3: yes, see priv msg
[22:15] <ubotu> New bug: #164196 in malone "Quickly-undone actions shouldn't send mail notifications" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164196
[22:52] <stdin> are the any PPA admins about, I need some packages removed from my PPA