[00:46] <Riyonuk> Anyone intrested in helping on a school website?
[00:54] <troy_s> Riyonuk: How much work?
[01:02] <Riyonuk> Half and Half? Just design
[01:02] <Riyonuk> trying to redesign chs.comfort.txed.net
[01:06] <troy_s> can you send me an email Riyonuk ?
[01:06] <Riyonuk> sure
[01:06] <troy_s> no guarantees as I am hideously busy
[01:06] <Riyonuk> do you have msn?
[01:06] <troy_s> yes
[01:07] <troy_s> aphorism at telus dot net or troy dot sobotka at gmail dot com for gmail
[01:07] <troy_s> gtalk
[01:08] <Riyonuk>  is not a valid passport account.
[01:08] <Riyonuk> hm
[01:08] <Riyonuk> try adding me, riyonuk@gmail.com
[02:11] <Cimi> kwwii, you'll be surprised when you'll have the occasion to see the next murrine release
[08:22] <TheSheep> troy_s: http://markbernstein.org/NeoVictorian.html
[11:40] <lapo> hi
[14:16] <troy_s> TheSheep: +1. Especially in relation to his 'arts and crafts' analogy.
[14:21] <TheSheep> troy_s: I knew you'll like it :)
[14:22] <troy_s> TheSheep: It is soooo spot on the money really.  But we have discussed that ad nausem
[14:23] <troy_s> s/nausem/nauseam
[14:23] <TheSheep> troy_s: I'm seeing more and more people talk about that
[14:23] <TheSheep> troy_s: and about 'situated software'
[14:24] <troy_s> TheSheep: That is positive, perhaps we will get out of the 'my computer your computer' rut that we have chatted about.
[14:26] <TheSheep> troy_s: I think a cultural change is needed, but it's started
[20:56] <kwwii> nothlit, lassegul: feel like pinging natthew nuzum about the state of the art.ubuntu.com site?
[21:02] <nothlit> kwwii: sure, i can ask him whats going on
[21:02] <nothlit> you should /invite newz2000 btw :P
[21:09] <nothlit> kwwii: its been working for a week but under code review
[21:09] <nothlit> canonical audits any extra code that runs on the community servers
[21:13] <kwwii> nothlit: yeah, the biggest issue at this point is to get the login stuff going
[21:13] <kwwii> ie logging in via your launchpad account
[21:14] <kwwii> I see you guys as the ones running this stuff (as I cannot be everywhere all the time and you've done a great job so far)
[21:14] <kwwii> speak of the devil :-)
[21:15] <newz2000> that's never happened before
[21:15] <newz2000> voodoo?
[21:15] <newz2000> :-D
[21:15] <kwwii> I pwn you
[21:15] <kwwii> well, I wish I did
[21:15] <newz2000> what's happening?
[21:16] <kwwii> just wanted to check up on the status of art.ubuntu.com
[21:16] <newz2000> stuck in code review. :-(
[21:16] <kwwii> talking to nothlit and lassegul about working on this stuff
[21:17] <kwwii> hehe, sounds like an ongoing process, how long does it usually take?
[21:17] <newz2000> I've never had to submit such a large piece of code for review before, and now that kees is on dendrobates team, he's quite busy.
[21:18] <kwwii> lol
[21:19] <kwwii> I will just start spamming kees
[21:19] <kwwii> no worries
[21:19] <kwwii> good that we get it reviewed first
[21:19] <newz2000> actually, its dendrobates
[21:20] <kwwii> ouch, I'll hit him up with the st louis talk and see if I can awake any hometown feelings
[21:20] <kwwii> get him on my good side first
[21:21] <kwwii> nothlit, lassegul: another important thing that we could get done in the meantime is feeding the FAQ that I started
[21:21] <kwwii> seems that lassegul is out anyway so I'll just yell at nothlit for the time being ;-)
[21:24] <nothlit> lol, do you have a link for your faq starter?
[21:25] <nothlit> sorry, just trying to close some tabs, got 97 open trying to reduce before i establish a wiki workspace
[21:26] <newz2000> I've been using this dark caramel theme for a while now... it [has the potential to be] so handsome, but it will be a lot of work switching to a dark theme.
[21:27] <kwwii> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/FAQ
[21:27] <kwwii> all those amazing entries made me tired :p
[21:27] <newz2000> wow, that is a comprehensive faq
[21:29] <kwwii> :-)
[21:29] <kwwii> hey, I just added one more entry
[21:29] <newz2000> we need a FAtQ now, a list of frequent answers to questions (though the questions may not be so frequent)
[21:29] <kwwii> I had three people ask me in one day how to unsubscribe, thought it would be a good time to start one
[21:29] <newz2000> The first to entries would be 1: no.  2: yes.
[21:29] <newz2000> 3: Ask Troy
[21:30] <kwwii> lol
[21:30] <kwwii> very nice
[21:30] <newz2000> 4: Ask Troy and tell him you want the long answer
[21:30] <newz2000> ;-)
[21:31] <newz2000> can we include artwork that is free for non-commercial use? cc-nc-by-sa or whatever it is
[21:31] <newz2000> we can't, iirc
[21:33] <kwwii> hrm, are any of the derivs for commercial use?
[21:33] <kwwii> I would guess that a few are and that would limit us a bit
[21:34] <kwwii> for now it probably is not a problem but we need to make it very clear what parts are non-free
[21:35] <nothlit> newz2000: a guide: http://www.linux.com/feature/119212 :)
[21:36] <nothlit> but as long as they're not integrated with the product there shouldn't be as much of a problem unless ubuntu views it as nonfree
[21:40] <kwwii> nothlit: right
[21:42] <newz2000> what a mess
[21:45] <nothlit> cc is mix and match, as long as there is no NC then it can be for commercial use
[21:46] <kwwii> it gets quite confusing
[21:54] <kwwii> oh man, now I am supposed to know french again
[21:54] <kwwii> I said I could order dinner in french, not that I understand it well
[22:11] <nothlit> well, you should try your best, but that doesn't mean you have to learn french, don't sweat it
[22:12] <nothlit> any updates on the community theme or conceptual work on the default?
[22:15] <kwwii> well, the stuff on the mailing list has been amazing
[22:15] <kwwii> and I have been working on a few things as well
[22:16] <kwwii> I am making a presentation to show mark on dec 5th, after that we will have the definite art direction for the next release and to some extent those beyond that
[22:26] <kwwii> hrm, first time I have ever gotten spam for  "Women's Intimacy Enhancer Cream"
[22:27] <kwwii> and with that, good night
[22:27] <nothlit> cool, cyas
[22:34] <kwwii> cya tomorrow