[00:29] <MeanderingCode> hello all.....can anyone tell me if xfce likes to load esd on session start?
[00:29] <MeanderingCode> or mixer applet start?
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[00:41] <jerich0> Hey all, just got Gutsy insalled on my laptop.  I want to set the power button to bring up the log out dialog (xfce4-session-logout), but am having probs.
[00:42] <jerich0> Any pointers on how to do this?  I'm callling it from /etc/acpid/poerbtn.sh, but it runs as root instead of as 'me'
[00:43] <jerich0> err, that'd be /etc/acpid/powerbtn.sh.
[00:43] <jerich0> In /var/log/acpid I get "(xfce4-session-logout:6585): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"
[01:00] <phanto1> can someone help me get dri working on my ati rage 128 on xubuntu gutsy?
[02:13] <neur1> hello
[02:15] <nantax> hello, how do i set the screensaver for xubuntu?
[02:15] <nantax> i can preview the screensavers but after the idle time has passed, the screen blanks out
[02:15] <nantax> and the screensaver will not show up
[02:22] <hal9k2010> hello  all
[02:23] <hal9k2010> need some help installing flash player for firefox
[02:28] <hal9k2010> new to linux, dont know a thing about using the terminal
[02:52] <slimjimflim> hi. i'm on the xubuntu live-cd. i tried installing, but it didn't detect my hard drive.  it shows up in bios though.  can anyone help?
[02:57] <slimjimflim> hi. i'm on the xubuntu live-cd. i tried installing, but it didn't detect my hard drive.  it shows up in bios though.  can anyone help?
[04:47] <graelb_> Hi there... Anyone have any new development with the framebuffer issues not allowing the tty's to be visible on some nvidia cards?
[05:09] <reindeer> I have an upgrade issue to discuss( Edgy- Feisty ). I have found the upgrade from Edgy to Feisty has disabled my machine ( Sawtooth G4/ 400 ). In order to regain access to my box( CLI or GUI ), I had to perform a skeleton reinstall of Edgy twice in a week. The flow of the upgrade was flawless up to the reboot. That's when I was locked out of my box. Any solutions?
[05:18] <A2t3can0v3r10rd> would some one Please give this link to the Ubuntu channel as I cannot and am banned for lifehttp://madderhatters.blogspot.com/?
[05:19] <bloony> when I change my desktop by clicking on it on my panel some time if I move my mouse real fast its changing to another desktop.. I guess its some mouse gesture feature or something.. how do I turn this of?
[05:20] <bloony> f
[05:26] <reindeer> Bloony, do you have a two-button mouse with a middle wheel?
[05:28] <bloony> reindeer: nope.. laptop touch pad
[05:33] <reindeer> Sometimes I've found the touch pads on most PC/ Macbook laptops are highly sensitive to gestures as opposed to an external USB laser mouse where you can gesture with a wheel between workspaces. This allows for you to control your movements between workspaces.
[05:34] <bloony> yeah.. but do you know where I can turn it off?
[05:35] <V1k1ng> can anyone help me with my atrociously slow boot time?
[05:35] <V1k1ng> I think something is wrong
[05:36] <reindeer> Viking, how much RAM do you have in your box right now?
[05:36] <V1k1ng> 512
[05:36] <reindeer> CPU speed?
[05:36] <V1k1ng> it's an athlon 64
[05:37] <V1k1ng> I'm running compiz just fine for the most part
[05:37] <V1k1ng> feisty and such booted quickly and without issue
[05:38] <V1k1ng> now, after grub, I just get a black screen for 2 or 3 minutes, then finally the logon
[05:38] <V1k1ng> no splash screen?
[05:38] <V1k1ng> i've  noticed that others seem to be having similar problems on the forum, but no consensus as to what is causing it
[05:39] <V1k1ng> and i'm too noob to debug myself
[05:39]  * V1k1ng will screw something up
[05:45] <reindeer> Bloony, there isn't a way other than hooking up an external USB laser mouse which should temporarily override the settings on your mousepad.
[05:46] <reindeer> Assuming you have rebooted your box within the cycle, does your box still hang between the grub and splash screen>?
[05:46] <bloony> aah.. yeah.. got It now.. misunderstood you
[05:46] <reindeer> Viking, still with us?
[05:47] <reindeer> Bloony, that's kewl.
[05:47] <V1k1ng> yeah
[05:48] <V1k1ng> my wireless connection must not be working so hot or i'm on a laggy server
[05:48] <reindeer> Kewl. Probably the combination of the two.
[05:48] <V1k1ng> well we're ok now
[05:48] <V1k1ng> anyway...
[05:48] <reindeer> Right on.
[05:49] <V1k1ng> isn't there usually a splash screen between grub and logon, with the progress bar looking thing?
[05:49] <V1k1ng> because i don't see that, I see nothing
[05:50] <V1k1ng> it just sort of sits for a long time, plucks at the hard drive and then finally goes to the logon
[05:50] <reindeer> Yes, there should be a progress bar between the grub and splash. You working with a normal PC or the Mac PPC architecture?
[05:50] <V1k1ng> so i have to wonder if something is wrong with how my system is booting that splash screen
[05:50] <V1k1ng> yup, PC
[05:51] <V1k1ng> it is the last bug I have
[05:53] <reindeer> I'm running on a Mac PPC G4 with Edgy loaded. This must be an ongoing bug since I am experiencing the same issue. Have you attempted to defrag your drive for bad sectors?
[05:53] <V1k1ng> this is the only thing that looks remotely like a solution      http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580903&highlight=slow+boot
[05:53] <V1k1ng> Yeah, I just reformatted before installing earlier tonight
[05:59] <reindeer> Kewl. I'll definetely hook this link up in Firefox. There is some code as you scroll down the page. The claim is when the code is copied/ pasted into the terminal, it speeds up the boot time. Let me know if the code works. I'm going to give it a shot, just the same, just for kicks.
[06:03] <reindeer> Is there a way I am able to overcome the upgrading issues I am experiencing from Edgy to Feisty? Is there any code available I am able to mod for the PPC architecture to make the upgrade to feisty a success?
[06:05] <V1k1ng> everyone recommends a clean install
[06:05] <V1k1ng> ubuntu isn't meant to be upgraded
[06:05] <V1k1ng> it's sort of ubuntu's achilles heal
[06:06] <reindeer> Ain't that the truth( hehe ).
[06:07] <V1k1ng> mepis and pclinuxos are designed to updated once they are installed
[06:09] <reindeer> For the clean install, you have to down the images from a mirror, verify the MD5 sums b4 the burn, and burn 'em( I recommend K3B for the burn ) on separate CD-Rs, and install.
[06:10] <reindeer> Immediately go into you terminal to hook up the code to speed up your boot time( making mods as necessary ), and see what happens. Hope for the best, expect nothing less:)
[06:11] <V1k1ng> yup, i just installed
[06:12] <V1k1ng> i've installed like 15 distros in the past few days
[06:13] <reindeer> I've attempted YDL( Yellow Dog Linux ) on my G4 from a burned DVD-R image. Wouldn't install correctly. Came back to Xubuntu/ Ubuntu due to the immediate online support:)
[06:14] <V1k1ng> if pclinuxos had an official gnome branch, i might switch
[06:15] <reindeer> I've set my burned images to bootable prior to burning on k3b. xfburn wouldn't even touch it:(
[06:16] <reindeer> I do agree, Viking. I like the choices between Gnome and KDE. However, I prefer Xfce.
[06:19] <reindeer> Xfce is cleaner while utilizing sys resources like the Mac OSX set to HFS+( Extended Hiearchial File System ).
[06:20] <reindeer> Let me know how the code loads up for you. I'm going invisible for the eve. God bless.
[06:20] <V1k1ng> no i like xfce a lot too
[06:21] <V1k1ng> but i like running compiz
[06:21] <V1k1ng> ok
[06:21] <V1k1ng> take care
[06:21] <reindeer> You too. G'eve, mate.
[06:38] <sugardrunk> little poll here: which audio / seq / tracker software are you people using and prefer?
[06:39] <sugardrunk> I enjoyed LMMS and ALDRIN for a long time now, but still figuring out ardour, rosegarden and jack + midi connectivity
[06:40] <sugardrunk> how the connections work, in particular and is there a midi support from for example, hydrogen to ardour/rosegarden
[08:12] <ere4si> I use vnc to connect to a headless server running xubuntu and everytime I open thunar for example it shuts straight away. It will stay open and usable on the second opening. Is there something I've missed in the settings? This is wearing thin real quick!
[08:13] <TheSheep> ere4si: check the logs
[08:17] <ere4si> !paste
[08:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:33] <kwhk> i have a seemingly Flash problem with Firefox.  i posted it onto ubuntuforums but still couldn't solve the problem.  Any one here can help?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=604593
[08:58] <ere4si> TheSheep: I have been trying to paste the last lines from /var/crash/_usr_bin_xfdesktop.1000.crash as they look like someone got a crayon and drew a line through them - covering them and making them unreadable - but the cpu goes to 100% and can't copy and paste...:(
[09:05] <ere4si> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45203/ -
[09:09] <TheSheep> ere4si: ?
[09:10] <ere4si> TheSheep: you need to go to the second block of text and scroll to the bottom
[09:11] <TheSheep> ere4si: and?
[09:13] <ere4si> TheSheep: at the bottom are the lines that are covered - in mousepad they look like a crayon was dragged over them - never seen that before?
[09:13] <TheSheep> ere4si: they look normally for me, just very long
[09:13] <TheSheep> ere4si: they might wrap and overlap if you have older pango
[09:15] <ere4si> TheSheep: ok - am using feisty? it shows in the white text block under the brown text block here
[09:20] <ere4si> nautilus just died on me - nothing but probs since opening that file - off to reboot
[13:47] <aspekt_ratio> hey all.... just installed xubuntu 7.10 and after install I got "GRUB
[13:47] <aspekt_ratio> and only that
[13:47] <aspekt_ratio> i had the Fedora bootloader (grub also) before installatino
[13:48] <aspekt_ratio> i also didn't found on the installation app where to manually configure grub settings ..it just installed it
[14:46] <methods[laptop]> is there a place to past images ?
[14:47] <methods[laptop]> paste
[15:09] <methods[laptop]> i just had to add icons to my taskbar because xubuntu was completely unconfigured
[15:38] <methods[laptop]> was it because my user home directory was not created xubuntu and instaed by kubuntu is that why i didn't get a default xubuntu desktop ?
[15:50] <methods[laptop]> i hate #ubuntu channel... id rather sit here and wait a day for an answer than watch my text fly off the screen constantly
[15:51] <vinze> methods[laptop], what was your question?
[15:57] <methods[laptop]> was it because my user home directory was not created xubuntu and instaed by kubuntu is that why i didn't get a default xubuntu desktop ?
[15:58] <methods[laptop]> i had like a empty task bar floating on my desk i had to completely setup my desktop and i nkow xfce would not come like that by default
[15:58] <vinze> methods[laptop], no, it's definitely not the way it should be :P
[15:58] <vinze> methods[laptop], but I don't think it's because of Kubuntu
[15:59] <vinze> methods[laptop], I did have a similar problem before when my hard drive was full
[16:09] <methods[laptop]> no
[16:09] <methods[laptop]> i didn't install off the cd
[16:10] <methods[laptop]> i just installed xubuntu-desktop on top of kubuntu
[16:10] <methods[laptop]> and thats why
[16:10] <methods[laptop]> also an ubuntu issue i have is my tty's appear to be blown up and dont fit on the screen...
[16:23] <brick__> do you know if its possible to run google sketchup on linux somehow ?
[16:23] <brick__> iknow picasa uses wine,, isnt it possible to get sketchup working the same way ?
[16:23] <vinze> brick__, I believe it's not
[16:23] <vinze> But let me check
[16:24] <vinze> Hmm, OK, seems like someone got it to work
[16:24] <vinze> brick__, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6842
[16:25] <brick__> thx... ill check:P
[16:27] <methods[laptop]> yes you can use it
[16:27] <methods[laptop]> i remember reading
[16:28] <methods[laptop]> hey why doesn't someone start packaging certain seperate embedded wines for applications... like woudln't it be great to download a drop in solution for google earth that has its own provena nd stable wine for that app... or like a visio version of wine which asks me for the visio cd... since the new wine doesn't work with visio
[16:36] <kwhk> what is the version of your firefox? seems that xubuntu doesn't update third party applications automatically. the "update firefox" option in my firefox is dimmed.  do i miss anything?
[16:37] <vinze> kwhk, Firefox only receives security updates
[16:37] <vinze> kwhk, I remember that before, there was one upstream (Firefox) security update that only applied to Windows, so Xubuntu's didn't get updated
[16:40] <kwhk> vinze, so xubuntu presents firefox from being updated automatically.  probably and other applications.  the only way is to update them manually by installing new versions?
[16:40] <vinze> kwhk, if no update of Firefox is available then it is not necessary to update it
[16:41] <kwhk> vinze, but the latest FF should be 2.0.0.9.  but the one on my xubuntu is 2.0.0.8.
[16:42] <vinze> kwhk, let me check the release notes, I'm sure those are only fixes for Windows security flaws
[16:45] <vinze> kwhk, the only major issue is about crashes on Windows PCs
[16:47] <kwhk> vinze, thanks. in general, is it that xubuntu will take care of the software updates? for example, i installed gnumeric.
[16:48] <vinze> kwhk, Xubuntu will take care of updates, but *security updates only*
[16:48] <vinze> So when a new version is released that adds new features (e.g. Firefox 3) you will *not* be updated
[16:48] <vinze> Unless you upgrade to a newer version of Xubuntu
[16:48] <kwhk> vinze, got it. thanks.
[16:49] <kwhk> vinze, then, if i want, i need to download it and install it myself.
[16:50] <vinze> kwhk, yes, but that is not recommended as you now have a central place to manage your software (i.e. Add/Remove... and Synaptic Package Manager)
[16:51] <kwhk> vinze, for the purpose of better integration into the O/S?
[16:51] <vinze> kwhk, yes, and easy installation/uninstallation without breaking other software
[16:51] <vinze> kwhk, *and*, of course, for automatically receiving security updates ;-)
[16:53] <Xacarith> Any one know anything about this issue    socket.gaierror: (-5, 'No address associated with hostname')
[16:54] <kwhk> vinze, but in that case, users will not have the newest features of these applications, if they are not related to any security issue.
[16:54] <vinze> kwhk, yes, that is true
[16:55] <vinze> kwhk, but new features can also introduce new bugs, which would again require more updates
[16:55] <kwhk> vize, of course.
[16:55] <vinze> kwhk, and now imagine how one would go about handling all those if they had to update each application manually :P
[16:56] <vinze> kwhk, now, one just has to wait the period between the latest update of a certain application and the next release of Xubuntu
[16:56] <kwhk> vinze, sure.
[16:57] <vinze> kwhk, though on the other hand, some times third-party individuals make their own updates packages you can install, for example, getdeb.net now has an updated package of Rhythmbox
[17:01] <kwhk> vinze, i'm new.  so how can i install to my box, assuming that i've installed the older version?
[17:02] <vinze> kwhk, install what?
[17:03] <kwhk> vinze, the package of Rhythmbox
[17:03] <vinze> kwhk, have you already downloaded it?
[17:03] <kwhk> no.
[17:03] <kwhk> vinze, no.
[17:03] <vinze> kwhk, first, you go to http://www.getdeb.net/
[17:03] <vinze> kwhk, there you search for Rhythmbox
[17:04] <kwhk> vinze, yes, i saw it.
[17:04] <vinze> kwhk, btw, I just see in the comments there: "Be warned, a ton of plugins are missing in this build."
[17:04] <vinze> kwhk, anyway, you see Download:   rhythmbox  (5.2 Mb)
[17:05] <kwhk> vinze, yes.
[17:05] <vinze> kwhk, click that, and select "Open with GDebi Package Installer"
[17:05] <kwhk> vinze, ok.
[17:06] <vinze> kwhk, then, it's basically just clicking "Install", it will install and then you can close the window and you'll find it in the menu :)
[17:06] <kwhk> vinze, thanks a lot.
[17:06] <vinze> kwhk, no problem :)
[19:34] <EhPrettyEasy> l0l hi guys
[19:34] <EhPrettyEasy> y the fak this command not work
[19:34] <EhPrettyEasy> sudo-apt getchicken moparscape
[19:34] <EhPrettyEasy> ???11+1+1one+
[19:34] <Ilikekeke> hlo
[19:34] <Ilikekeke> hlo
[19:35] <EhPrettyEasy> SOMEONE ANSWER
[19:35] <EhPrettyEasy> FUCKING NOOBS
[19:35] <EhPrettyEasy> OR WE DCC THIS CHANEL
[19:35] <EhPrettyEasy> WITH c0cks
[19:35] <Ilikekeke> I did sudo apt-get moarsap v1337
[19:35] <Ilikekeke> r not wrk
[19:35] <Ilikekeke> O BTW
[19:35] <Ilikekeke> HELLO:
[19:35] <Ilikekeke> Twinkletoes rhavenn hfsdo evil_tech beblour_ totalwormage Eagle_101 whyking_ JohanSalim bigfuzzyjesus HiuCD Ow1 joakim_ brick__ daurn neozen sparr_w gnomefreak PriceChild MatBoy luisbg rob sylvander_ reindeer snook3r magic_ninja Casey relapse aanderse R[a]ndom nalioth eldenz sjefen6 mindframe- shadebug eteran kikr nixternal T` squirrelpimp Super_BQ Quetzalcoatl crimsun ubuntulog mindframe_ emdash PeckaH -wraund k^^ zoredache distrotubux c
[19:35] <totalwormage> go to hell
[19:35] <EhPrettyEasy> totalwormage
[19:35] <Ilikekeke> totalwormage, you know what I am?
[19:35] <EhPrettyEasy> u help
[19:35] <EhPrettyEasy> how do we instal moparscape
[19:35] <EhPrettyEasy> on the anus
[19:35] <EhPrettyEasy> edubuntu
[19:35] <EhPrettyEasy> FAK LOL
[19:35] <EhPrettyEasy> A!?!?!?!?!
[19:35] <totalwormage> !ops
[19:36] <Ilikekeke> But why is sudo apt-get install moparscape
[19:36] <Ilikekeke> not working
[19:36] <EhPrettyEasy> Hi stork
[19:36] <Ilikekeke> Or it's not on the list?
[19:36] <totalwormage> wouldn't know
[19:37] <Ilikekeke> Also do you know if it's possible to get an IRC client?
[19:37] <Ilikekeke> Sorry, I'm new :)
[19:39] <nalioth> hi y'all
[19:39] <nixternal> thanks nalioth, not on the list in here
[19:40] <Ilikekeke> Hello
[19:40] <nalioth> nixternal: not on what list?
[19:40] <nixternal> ops
[19:40] <nixternal> all i could do is watch
[19:40] <totalwormage> Ilikekeke: there are lots of irc clients around. like irssi, xchat
[19:40] <totalwormage> you probably would like xchat
[19:40] <nalioth> i'm just wondering who ran to the staff
[19:41] <nalioth> instead of running to #ubuntu-ops
[19:42] <Greeny_> HiuCD, was anyone in here spamming recently?
[19:42] <nalioth> Greeny_: "spamming" ?
[19:43] <Greeny_> well
[19:43] <Greeny_> someone in a channel on another net claimed they were annoying you guys
[19:43] <Greeny_> so before i ban him
[19:43] <nixternal> Greeny_: yes
[19:43] <Ilikekeke> totalwormage, mIRC?
[19:43] <Ilikekeke> what is irssi by the way
[19:44] <Greeny_> an irc client
[19:44] <nalioth> Greeny_: i'd not call it 'spamming' more like misbehaving
[19:44] <Ilikekeke> Which is better, xchat or irssi
[19:44] <Ilikekeke> and which is easier to get
[19:44] <totalwormage> mirc is a windows client
[19:44] <Ilikekeke> I forgot that :p
[19:45] <totalwormage> nothing is better
[19:45] <totalwormage> everyone has his own taste
[19:45] <Ilikekeke> True
[19:45] <Greeny_> ok thanks
[19:45] <totalwormage> xchat has a gui, graphical interface like mirc
[19:45] <totalwormage> irssi is text-based
[19:45] <Ilikekeke> Ok, thanks :)
[19:45] <totalwormage> just do a 'sudo apt-get install xchat' :P
[19:46] <Ilikekeke> I'll do it :)
[19:46] <Ilikekeke> Let me turn the computer on :)
[19:47] <Ilikekeke> Hmm, computer is a bit slow today.
[19:47] <slow-motion> hi
[19:48] <Ilikekeke> hi
[20:24] <Ahmuck> i noticed on the alternate cd that ltsp server was an option.  i assume that this works like edubuntu's ltsp server setup, as in turn key
[20:27] <Pres-Gas> Whew, #ubuntu is hoppin'.
[20:28] <evil_tech> i get lost when im in there
[20:29] <Pres-Gas> Yeah, evil_tech, I don't watch it that closely and then I got lost in about 5 min.
[20:32] <evil_tech> even with all the traffic though they still mangae to help most folks it seems
[20:32] <Ahmuck> i noticed on the alternate cd that ltsp server was an option.  i assume that this works like edubuntu's ltsp server setup, as in turn key
[20:35] <evil_tech> dunno what an ltsp server even is so...
[20:37] <Ahmuck> linux terminal server project - one server, many clients
[20:38] <Pres-Gas> Ahmuck, it is the same package because they come from the same repos
[20:43] <Ahmuck> Pres-Gas: as i understand it, edubuntu is a turn key system, i've tired the ltsp on ubuntu and the setup is not hte same
[20:45] <Pres-Gas> turn key?
[20:48]  * Pres-Gas wonders if there is some additional packaes related to edubuntu that make it easier, but if a package is available on one system, it tends to be available on another
[21:45] <slow-motion> n8
[22:28] <jeems> could someone answer for me, a potentially silly question?
[22:29] <evil_tech> sure
[22:30] <jeems> ok then. Why does alt-left/right/up/down produce D/C/A/B in terminal windows?
[22:30] <jeems> I have alt+left and right assigned to two mouse buttons for foreward/backward in firefox, thunar, etc. but it just results in a D/C in terminal.
[22:31] <jeems> I bougnt meta-left and meta-right in irssi to next/previous window, hoping to be able to switch windows with the mouse, but no go.
[22:31] <jeems> is there some way to uh fix this
[22:31] <jeems> It's worked before, but I just recently reinstalled and have no idea what's different now.
[22:37] <evil_tech> have no clue how to configure the terminal or irssi
[22:37] <evil_tech> i still have to manually connect to the servers when i run it :)
[22:37] <jeems> it's easy once you get the hang of it :)
[22:38] <jeems> the binds are fine, since esc-left//right work fine. but alt does now. oh well.
[22:38] <jeems> I bet in a few weeks, it'll randomly make itself work
[22:38] <evil_tech> or someone will be in here that can fix it
[22:38] <jeems> yep.
[22:38] <evil_tech> wow esc and arrows does move to different windows
[22:39] <evil_tech> and here i am always pressing esc and number keys
[22:39] <jeems> what does alt+arrows do?
[22:39] <evil_tech> d c a b
[22:39] <jeems> hm.
[22:39] <evil_tech> DACB
[22:39] <evil_tech> wierd
[22:43] <jm1> wow x hates me
[22:44] <evil_tech> why is that
[22:45] <jeems> switched to a tty and back and it was blackscreen, and then no hotkeys worked. so I had to reboot via power button.
[22:46] <evil_tech> wow you werent kidding
[22:46] <jeems> it happens all the time. similar things
[22:47] <jeems> mostly when going to/coming from fullscreen in something like a ogl visualisation or ogl game. heck even wine games do it.
[22:47] <jeems> no fun. so I just try and avoid such situations
[22:48] <evil_tech> hmm games never seem to work well with x except for little one
[22:48] <evil_tech> like tetris and such
[22:49] <jeems> actually anything that goes real fullscreen fucks it up, now I think about it. videos and whatnot are fine though.
[22:51] <Pumpernickel> What video driver are you using?
[22:52] <jeems> propriatary nvidia ones. latest legacy ones. am on a gf4
[23:05] <evil_tech> boy lot of netsplits
[23:33] <malaeum> hello. I just installed xubuntu on an old laptop hoping to breathe some life into this machine as I cannot afford a new one at this point in time. For the most part the experience has been very positive. I was just wondering if there is any sort of integration of power saving functions into xubuntu. As of now when I try and put the machine into "standby" it hard locks. I would idealy like to set the machine to go into standby when the 
[23:34] <evil_tech> how old is old? does it use APM or ACPI
[23:36] <malaeum> evil_tech: to be honest, I do not know off hand. I just got it yesterday. Its a P3 700mhz system, so I'd guess that its 6 or 7 years old.
[23:37] <malaeum> I do assume that at least has APM and most likely ACPI
[23:37] <malaeum> Just not sure how to check, never had a laptop before so I've never really made use of either feature too much.
[23:38] <evil_tech> i would google your laptop model and see if others have had a similar problem and if a workaround or fix was found
[23:38] <malaeum> well it had XP on it when I got it and it did go into standby in XP
[23:39] <malaeum> just not sure how to tell xubuntu to behave that way.
[23:39] <evil_tech> just cause xp can do it doesnt necessarily mean that xubuntu can
[23:39] <evil_tech> whats the model
[23:41] <malaeum> Latitude L400
[23:42] <malaeum> evil_tech: I don't even see any ACPI stuff in xubuntu's config. I do not have very much experience with XFCE4 and I cannot find any sort of place where I would configure the behavior. I know where to find such things in KDE and I could most likely in gnome as well. Just not sure where I should be looking here. I think I have looked through all of the settings.
[23:45] <malaeum> I am finding some issues with the ACPI stuff that explains my inability to make proper use of standby mode. But it doesn't even attempt to when I close the lid, right now it just turns the screen of and thats it, still running full on.
[23:45] <evil_tech> just a minute. let me boot up to xubuntu and ill see if i can find
[23:46] <evil_tech> my guess is that xubuntu didnt turn acpi on either because your laptop doesnt have it or because its right on the cut off as far as age
[23:46] <evil_tech> brb
[23:52] <evil_tech> so i apparently installed ubuntu in my xubuntu partition :\
[23:53] <malaeum> ouch
[23:53] <malaeum> lol, well does ubuntu support this stuff? I mean I can install ubuntu and then run xfce
[23:53] <malaeum> I just didnt see any support for it but as you said, might just be disabled on my machine
[23:53] <evil_tech> yes it doesn
[23:53] <evil_tech> does*
[23:53] <evil_tech> my guess is its turned off
[23:54] <evil_tech> im pretty sure that the lat l400 didnt have acpi
[23:54] <malaeum> well I think it does, one second, I'll show you what I am reading...
[23:54] <malaeum> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-423251.html
[23:55] <evil_tech> it should say something at boot about it
[23:55] <malaeum> the last post there seems pretty knowledgeable
[23:55] <malaeum> well let me check dmesg
[23:55] <malaeum> nevermind
[23:55] <malaeum> seems xubuntu doesn't use it.
[23:56] <evil_tech> it does when the harware support is there
[23:57] <malaeum> for dmesg, that requires hardware support?
[23:57] <evil_tech> no not for dmesg for acpi stuff
[23:57] <malaeum> oh, sure.
[23:57] <malaeum> well it seems that others with the L400 are talking about ACPI stuffs on the forums.
[23:58] <evil_tech> bios update maybe?