[00:01] <stdin> acemo: give this a go "sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)'|cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime"
[00:02] <stdin> and also well done acemo, yours is the very first support question for RC1 ;)
[00:02] <acemo> stdin: http://pastebin.com/d384a0760 theres the result of ur command
[00:02] <acemo> cool, im the first to screw up RC1
[00:03] <jackuess> am i the only one getting errors when trying to install kde4rc1?
[00:03] <vit_> hi
[00:03] <acemo> jackuess: i hope you didnt do what i did..
[00:03] <stdin> acemo: add "kdebase-workspace-bin libplasma1" to the end of the command
[00:03] <jackuess> i get errors conserning the kwin package
[00:03] <jackuess> my error messages is in swedish
[00:04] <stdin> jackuess: you did remove all the old kde4 beta package before installing the RC1 packages?
[00:04] <acemo> stdin: that seems to work, atleast its removing something :)
[00:04] <jackuess> yes
[00:04] <jackuess> at least i think so
[00:04] <stdin> jackuess: is it an apt-get error?
[00:04] <jackuess> yes
[00:04] <jackuess> dpkg: fel vid hantering av /var/cache/apt/archives/kwin-kde4_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu2~gutsy2~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[00:04] <jackuess>  försöker skriva över "/usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/apps/kcmkwm.png" som också finns i paketet kde4artwork-data
[00:05] <jackuess> the last line would be something like "trying to overwrite <the file>"
[00:05] <stdin> you didn't remove everything :p
[00:05] <acemo> stdin: were getting there :) Package kdelibs5 is not installed, so not removed
[00:05] <NickPresta> :wq
[00:05] <stdin> jackuess: give this a go "sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)'|cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime"
[00:05] <NickPresta> damnit, wrong window with focus :)
[00:06] <stdin> acemo: that's ok, as long as there are no other errors
[00:06] <acemo> stdin: nope, it lets me install the new packages now
[00:06] <StFS> crap... my setup just stopped showing me the login screen when I start my computer up... I just get a console screen... but if I log into that and run "startx" then everything loads up great... I've tried looking at the logs but I can't find anything there (but I also don't quite know what logs I should be looking at... I've looked at the Xorg log, the kdm log, messages and syslog)
[00:06] <jackuess> that gives me an "unfullfilled dependencies error"
[00:06] <acemo> stdin: or atleast lets me download them
[00:06] <stdin> acemo: good, best way to install is "sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev-kde4 kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-runtime"
[00:07] <acemo> stdni: im running that command atm
[00:07] <stdin> jackuess: put LANG=C before the apt-get command and post to pastebin
[00:08] <StFS> anybody got an idea of how I can figure out what's going on when my computer doesn't start X at startup?
[00:09] <jackuess> stdin: i managed to run the previous command you recomended
[00:09] <stdin> ok, if that gives no errors then run this
[00:09] <stdin> "sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev-kde4 kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-runtime"
[00:09] <jackuess> should i try to install kde4 again?
[00:09] <jackuess> okay
[00:10] <jackuess> thx
[00:10] <acemo> stdin: at the step where u install kdm-kde4 it asks wich to use as default, u suggest to use kdm as default? only other option is kdm-kde4
[00:10] <jackuess> stdin: many thanks, now it worked
[00:10] <stdin> yeah, it doesn't matter as you'll be using the kde3 kdm
[00:11] <acemo> stdin: k
[00:11] <stdin> hopefully we'll have the rest of the RC1 up tomorrow, I'm uploading kdepim-kde4 now
[00:15] <acemo> okay.. should be installed now.. lets try it out ^.^
[00:15] <FroggyTheGreat> hmm
[00:16] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone here got Amarok to work with a Creative Zen Touch?
[00:17] <FroggyTheGreat> All I can find are tutorials for Edgy.
[00:20] <NickPresta> FroggyTheGreat, I assume the CZT uses the MTP protocol. If so, you should be able to use Amarok by setting up a new MTP device and then hitting "Connect" in Amarok when the ZT is connected
[00:21] <modjo> !libmysql-java
[00:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libmysql-java - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:22] <modjo> im having troubles with my java-mysql connector. any ideas?
[00:22] <acemo> stdin: seems to work :) am in kde4 now
[00:22] <modjo> im having troubles with my libmysql-java JDBC connector. any ideas?
[00:23] <stdin> acemo: good to know :)
[00:23] <acemo> theres no K button tho.. (the start button thingy)
[00:23] <FroggyTheGreat> NickPresta - It doesn't find the device.
[00:24] <stdin> acemo: you have to add it, it's an applet
[00:24] <stdin> it may be a RC1, but it's still buggy
[00:24] <acemo> stdin: ahh alright
[00:25] <stdin> s/applet/plasmoid/ :)
[00:25] <sirina> hey yay! RC1 is in Kubuntu reps! :-)
[00:25] <stdin> sirina: almost
[00:25] <acemo> can u also add it to the task bar yet?
[00:25] <stdin> acemo: try it and see
[00:26] <stdin> sirina: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[00:26] <[ka]killer> hey
[00:26] <FroggyTheGreat> Hmm.  Gnomad2 worked, apparently.  Let's see if I can populate it.
[00:26] <NickPresta> FroggyTheGreat, is the CZT a MTP device or is it set to UMS? If it is indeed MTP, make sure you have libmtp installed and then make sure mtp-tools is installed. Then try connecting the device from the command line (mtp-connect). if that doesn't work, perhaps the CZT isn't supported
[00:26] <acemo> stdin: thingy is... right clicking on task bar does nothing
[00:26] <[ka]killer> bah nvm cant deal with this tonight
[00:26] <sirina> thx stdin. :-)
[00:27] <stdin> acemo: the task bar is a plasmoid too, some bits work others don't. right click the desktop to open the plasmoid adder (or use the little icon in the top right)
[00:27] <FroggyTheGreat> Lemme make sure about mtp-tools.
[00:28] <modjo> im having troubles with my libmysql-java JDBC connector. any ideas?
[00:28] <FroggyTheGreat> mtp-tools wasn't installed, adding now.
[00:28] <acemo> stdin: i got the K button on the desktop now, just cant seem to put it in the task bar
[00:29] <Dragnslcr> stdin- you know if KDE4 will make it over to the standard repositories before 8.04, or will it stay in a special repository you have to add manually?
[00:29] <stdin> acemo: like i said, it's still a bit buggy on the desktop side. you'll find some help in #kde4-devel
[00:29] <mot_> anybody know if there are libgpod 0.6.0 binaries out there?
[00:29] <mot_> i can't seem to compile from source. i'm getting very strange errors.
[00:29] <mot_> Making all in po
[00:29] <mot_> make[2]: Entering directory `/home/mot/Desktop/libgpod-0.6.0/po'
[00:29] <mot_> file=`echo de | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \
[00:29] <mot_>           && rm -f $file &&  -o $file de.po
[00:29] <mot_> /bin/sh: line 1: -o: command not found
[00:29] <mot_> make[2]: *** [de.gmo] Error 127
[00:30] <stdin> Dragnslcr: it'll be in gutsy-backports/universe sometime soon, and it'll be in universe in 8.04
[00:30] <stdin> !paste | mot_
[00:30] <ubotu> mot_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:30] <acemo> stdin: thanks, its great so far, just a few things left to fix but its no final yet :)
[00:31] <Dragnslcr> Is backports "pre-release" in Adept?
[00:31] <acemo> lol okay i shoudl not have done that... brb hehe
[00:32] <stdin> Dragnslcr: no, it's "Unsupported Packages"
[00:33] <stdin> Dragnslcr: RC1 isn't in there yet, you'll have to wait or use the repository from the announcement for now
[00:36] <stdin> for those that are stuck with installing the KDE4 RC1 see !brokenkde4
[00:36] <stdin> !brokenkde4
[00:36] <ubotu> If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[00:36] <stdin> (all one line)
[00:37] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok, Gnomad2 is what I needed, then.  Cool.
[00:37] <acemo> stdin: thats a nice one.
[00:37] <stdin> acemo: I have to sleep sometime so people can pester ubotu now :p
[00:37] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[00:37] <acemo> stdin: hehe =)
[00:38] <Dragnslcr> Will having KDE3 and KDE4 installed at the same time be a bit more idiot-proofed for the release?
[00:39] <stdin> well, probably not :p
[00:39] <Dragnslcr> I may try RC1 if I have free time in the next couple weeks. I'm asking about release stuff more for my girlfriend's laptop
[00:39] <stdin> that's why we say to remove all old kde4 package
[00:40] <stdin> if you have no kde4 package is just one apt-get install, if you have old package, it's my hacky command ^
[00:40] <stdin> then apt-get
[00:41] <Dragnslcr> So we'll be stuck manually setting the environment variables?
[00:41] <Dragnslcr> Or will the last "To run it as a full session install kdm-kde4..." step be the only thing required?
[00:41] <stdin> we may have a more elegant system in place by then
[00:42] <Dragnslcr> Heh, alright
[00:42] <stdin> but this is all pre-release and changing all the time, so having any system is impossible
[00:42] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, understandable
[00:42] <acemo> think kubuntu 8.04 will have kde4 as default?
[00:43] <stdin> and we install it in it's own separate directory, so it doesn't interfere. thats why you need the exports, so the system knows where to look
[00:43] <Dragnslcr> It took me long enough to convince my girlfriend to accept Kubuntu for her new laptop. I'd be a bit worried about installing KDE4 for her if there isn't an easy way to get back to KDE3
[00:43] <stdin> acemo: not a chance in hell :)
[00:43] <Dragnslcr> acemo- definitely not
[00:43] <Dragnslcr> acemo- 8.04 is an LTS version
[00:43] <stdin> there will be special KDE4 (non-LTS) CDs  (or that's the plan)
[00:43] <acemo> hmm yeah.. for LTS it would be kinda really dared..
[00:44] <acemo> stdin: thats great =)
[00:44] <Dragnslcr> So even now, all that would be required to switch would be to copy the kde4.desktop file and add the export lines to startkde?
[00:45] <stdin> basically
[00:45] <stdin> that and a few sacrifices to the gods of KDE
[00:46] <stdin> oh, and I hope you all enjoy the svn konversation that will be installed when you update :)
[00:47] <stdin> I forgot to remove some old package from the archive and it's too late now :p
[00:47] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[00:48] <Dragnslcr> Maybe I'll wait a bit before switching from XChat then
[00:48] <NickPresta> How can I find out how many installed applications I have (not including libraries, etc)?
[00:48] <acemo> ohh crap, i knew it was a bad idea to try out rc1 in the evening.. 5 hours till my alarm goes off ;/
[00:49] <stdin> acemo: what? I haven't slept in two days getting these packages out and you're complaining about a few hours? :P
[00:50] <stdin> and it's already tomorrow
[00:50]  * tekteen has awakened from the grave
[00:51] <acemo> stdin: its just.. that always when i think of going to bed early.. i end up in bed late
[00:51] <stdin> when ever I think of going to bed...
[00:51] <stdin> I drink coffee
[00:52] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[00:52] <Dragnslcr> You have a coffee fund we should donate a few bucks to?
[00:52] <stdin> I could probably live off it (have been the last couple days)
[00:53] <stdin> I'll probably sleep until next year after I get these last few packages built
[00:54] <juacom99> hi
[00:54] <juacom99> someon here use kdetv??
[00:55] <Max-P> Hi all, can someone tell me how to disable the Power Manager?
[00:55] <stdin> right click > Quit
[00:56] <Dragnslcr> Hm, KControl doesn't have a power management section
[00:57] <Max-P> It starts each time a start my computer
[00:57] <Max-P> I want to completely disable it
[00:57] <stdin> remove kde-guidance-powermanager ?
[00:58] <Max-P> I will try
[00:58] <Dragnslcr> Are you talking about just the monitor turning off?
[00:58] <intRandom> how do you go about changing the size of your Xephyr session?
[00:58] <sven_> With what program can communicate over the serial port?
[00:58] <Max-P> I want to disable it because I get 2 betteries icons (The PowerManager and KLaptop)
[00:58] <Max-P> I want to keep the KLaptop one only
[00:59] <Dragnslcr> Ah
[00:59] <sven_> I need to communicate with a sun server over a serial port
[00:59] <Dragnslcr> If you close it and it starts every time you log in, did you check to make sure you don't have it in your Autostart directory?
[01:00] <Max-P> Already checked
[01:00] <Max-P> It starts only on battery
[01:00] <stdin> Dragnslcr: it's in the system-wide autostart dir
[01:00] <Max-P> I will check
[01:00] <Dragnslcr> Ah
[01:00] <Max-P> Where is the system-wide autostart dir?
[01:00] <stdin> /usr/share/autostart/guidance-power-manager.desktop
[01:00] <Dragnslcr> Well, since I don't have a laptop, I'll just shut up now
[01:01] <Max-P> I have it!
[01:01] <biovore> sven_: minicom
[01:02] <stdin> you could remove kde-guidance-powermanager to uninstall it, if you just delete the file then it'll come back when kde-guidance-powermanager get's an update
[01:02] <biovore> sven_:  But you probably will need to know what your doing to use it..
[01:02] <Max-P> so I can remove the kde-guidance-powermanager package?
[01:03] <intRandom> stdin: how do you go about changing the screen size of your Xephyr session?
[01:04] <sFEARs> hello
[01:04] <stdin> intRandom: Xephyr -screen WIDTHxHEIGHT :1
[01:04] <stdin> also see $ Xephyr --help
[01:06] <Max-P> Thanks stdin, it works
[01:10] <randorfer> has anyone install the kde4 release canidate?
[01:11] <jalbert> I'm having some trouble mounting my NTFS partition from Feisty
[01:11] <randorfer> jalbert:  is ntfs-3g installed?
[01:11] <jalbert> one sec
[01:11] <jalbert> lemme make sure
[01:11] <biovore> mount -t ntfs /dev/<device> /media/<dir>
[01:13] <randorfer> so no one has tried to install the kde4 release canidate yet??
[01:14] <geos> Hi
[01:14] <stdin> several have
[01:14] <gribelu> i tried.. but failed
[01:14] <biovore> It has a lot of bugs still..
[01:14] <gribelu> some dependancy problems
[01:14] <geos> I tried installing kde4 rc1 --- no success
[01:14] <geos> same here
[01:14] <randorfer> ahh, alight then ill stay away ;-)
[01:14] <biovore> I build it from SVN here...
[01:14] <stdin> !brokenkde4 | gribelu
[01:14] <ubotu> gribelu: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[01:15]  * stdin is glad he added that now
[01:15] <gribelu> i never had any kde4 packages
[01:15] <gribelu> so nothing to remove :)
[01:15] <biovore> yes.. kde4 bot thing..
[01:15] <gribelu>  kdebase-dev-kde4: Depends: kdebase-kde4 (= 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed
[01:15] <gribelu> and so on
[01:15] <stdin> gribelu: what was the command you used
[01:15] <gribelu> sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev-kde4 kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-runtime
[01:16] <gribelu> after adding the repo on the rc1 page
[01:16] <biovore> what ubuntu version..
[01:16] <gribelu> gutsy + hardy repos
[01:16] <biovore> might explain it..
[01:16] <biovore> gusty only.. hardy will break things..
[01:16] <gribelu> hmm
[01:16] <stdin> if you have gutsy then the'll be in universe
[01:16] <stdin> soon
[01:16] <randorfer> what repo is the kde4 stuff located in?
[01:16] <gribelu> would it help if i just change the repos back to the gutsy ones?
[01:16] <stdin> randorfer: see the topic
[01:17] <randorfer> answered even before i answer
[01:17] <biovore> www.kubuntu.org has some links for kde4
[01:17] <stdin> gribelu: no, if you have hardy you need hardy packages
[01:17] <biovore> else just build it from source..
[01:17] <gribelu> damn
[01:18] <stdin> hardy packages are being made, the ones in the gutsy PPA repo are backports of them
[01:18] <gribelu> i knew it was dumb to use hardy at this point... still did it
[01:18] <stdin> and there will eventually go in gutsy-backports
[01:19] <gribelu> ah
[01:19] <gribelu> so i'll just wait
[01:19] <gribelu> beats compiling
[01:19] <stdin> make sure to remove any kde4 package that may have installed (if any)
[01:19] <gribelu> i'll probably hit dependency stuff there as well
[01:19] <MilitantPotato> !iptables
[01:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:21] <gribelu> stdin: as in packages that start with kde4*? or also libqt4*?
[01:21] <stdin> gribelu: not libqt4*
[01:21] <gribelu> cool, thanks
[01:21] <stdin> "sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime" should catch them all
[01:22] <gribelu> nothing to remove here.. so i'll just wait for the hardy packages :D
[01:22] <stdin> yep
[01:23] <gribelu> does kde4 work kinda?
[01:23] <stdin> it works sorta yeag
[01:23] <stdin> still has plenty of bugs
[01:24] <stdin> but it's better than the betas'
[01:24] <stdin> and if kdegraphics-kde4 and kdeedu-kde4 start building I can actually sleep
[01:24] <gribelu> i recently installed ubuntu.. and i remembered why i was using kde for the last few years.. so i thought i'd use this box to test kde4
[01:25] <fer> ?
[01:25] <bfl> can someone tell me how i can get emerald working on kubuntu? I have an emerald themer and compiz installed and working. I just can't emerald themes working.
[01:25] <geos> sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime works here too! Thanks
[01:26] <stdin> it should do, it's of my own design ;)
[01:26] <stdin> bfl: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion#head-3f62aec4d410bb7d9a17dc47f6b04f73638dc368
[01:28] <bfl> is it obligated to install the other emerald thems?
[01:28] <bfl> stdin: i've found some emerald them on kde-look and just want to use that
[01:29] <stdin> bfl: then you should open them with the emerald theme manager
[01:29] <bfl> yes and it imports perfect
[01:29] <bfl> but how do i activate it?
[01:29] <stdin> click on it
[01:29] <bfl> nothing changes then
[01:29] <stdin> that's how it's supposed to work
[01:30] <stdin> you just click it and it should activeate
[01:30] <stdin> *activate
[01:30] <bfl> is there something icould have forget?
[01:30] <stdin> try asking in #compiz-fusion
[01:30] <stdin> see if they know
[01:30] <bfl> k, thanks for the help
[01:31] <MilitantPotato> Where are the IP tables stored?
[01:31] <bmk789__> can someone recommend a good podcast downloading program for KDE?
[01:31] <stdin> in memory afaik
[01:32] <stdin> bmk789__: amarok ?
[01:32] <bmk789__> stdin: do i need a plugin?
[01:32] <stdin> no
[01:32] <stdin> built-in
[01:32] <MilitantPotato> Firestarter keeps blocking samba while open, it doesn't give any errors though.
[01:33] <Zombocom> if I want to reconfigure my xserver
[01:33] <PeterPan^> http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/916/snapshot1du0.jpg              how to stop
[01:33] <sFEARs> i have a link to my windows partition that shows up on my desktop when i boot.. how do i disable that?
[01:33] <Zombocom> because I know the drivers/video card can handle higher resolutions
[01:34] <biovore> !aptfix
[01:34] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:34] <stdin> biovore: wrong error
[01:34] <stdin> that happens when adept isn't opened with kdesu
[01:34] <biovore> that too
[01:35] <PeterPan^> ?
[01:37] <gribelu> stdin: any clue when the kde4 hardy packages will be up? thanks
[01:37] <PeterPan^>  can any one hear me
[01:37] <Zombocom> yes
[01:37] <Zombocom> they're debating your problem
[01:37] <PeterPan^> k
[01:37] <Zombocom> apparently the program isn't being run in administrative mode
[01:38] <Zombocom> so you can't do anything with i
[01:38] <Zombocom> t
[01:38] <stdin> gribelu: not sure, depends on what other packages are building and how long they take
[01:38] <PeterPan^> it is
[01:38] <Zombocom> check the kicker's shortcut
[01:38] <PeterPan^> what?
[01:39] <stdin> PeterPan^: try Alt-F2 and put in  kdesu adept_manager      if that works then it wasn't being run as roto
[01:39] <stdin> *root
[01:39] <gribelu> i guess i may have to sleep
[01:39] <Zombocom> I gotta eat dinner, I'll be back later with my problems everyone
[01:40] <sFEARs> i have a link to my windows partition that shows up on my desktop when i boot.. how do i disable that?
[01:40] <draik> ardchoille: BluesKaj:  SHE'S ALIVE!
[01:40] <PeterPan^> what will Alt-F2 and put in  kdesu adept_manager        do
[01:40] <stdin> gribelu: should be by tomorrow hopefully, we spent 2 days uploading the packages yesterday and today
[01:40] <draik> ardchoille: BluesKaj: I figured it out.
[01:40] <draik> stdin: You too.
[01:40] <draik> ardchoille: BluesKaj: stdin: He's how you get a Dell to work... CLEAR CMOS
[01:41] <stdin> PeterPan^: run adept manager as root
[01:41] <PeterPan^> k
[01:41] <PeterPan^> ill try
[01:41] <gribelu> stdin: good luck with that then
[01:41] <PeterPan^> whats alt f2 for ?
[01:42] <stdin> PeterPan^: the run command dialog
[01:42] <PeterPan^> k
[01:42] <stdin> gribelu: after I've uploaded the last package today, I'll get to seep too :p
[01:42] <crazy_bus>  I'm trying to backup a dvd with k9copy.  But while it is set to 4400mb,  k3b tells me the created file is 4.5gb's and excedes the capacity of a dvd by 101.9mb's.  Why is this
[01:43] <stdin> because it only tried to make a file that big, it's not guaranteed to be exactly that
[01:44] <geos> does anyone know how to move widgets?
[01:45] <crazy_bus> stdin: so should I set the file size smaller?
[01:45] <stdin> yeah, give it a go
[01:45] <stdin> geos: you mean plasmoids, and they should move by click and dragging. if not then it's probably a bug, still plenty of those about
[01:46] <geos> ok, though the behavour might be changed from beta3 to rc1
[01:47] <stdin> it has in svn, but building in a closed system isn't the same so different bugs arrise
[01:47] <loguser1> no use with kdesu
[01:47] <stdin> loguser1: try opening konsole and running "sudo apt-get update", then try adept again
[01:48] <stdin> loguser1: if there are any errors then post them to pastebin
[01:48] <stdin> !paste
[01:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:49] <loguser1>  dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:49] <stdin> try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[01:51] <stdin> loguser1: use the pastebin rather than flooding me with /msgs
[01:52] <loguser1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45320/
[01:53] <stdin> loguser1: ok now do "sudo apt-get -f install"
[01:53] <stdin> or "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" if that wan's to remove packages
[01:55] <loguser1> st http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45321/
[01:55] <loguser1> whats -f install for?
[01:56] <stdin> loguser1: trys to fix
[01:57] <loguser1> k
[01:57] <stdin> loguser1: adept should work now
[01:57] <loguser1> now its fine
[01:57] <loguser1> thx!
[01:57] <stdin> :)
[01:58] <loguser1> stdin:  can you tell a good p2p app
[01:59] <stdin> !p2p
[01:59] <ubotu> Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[01:59] <stdin> several there
[02:00] <loguser1> any best
[02:00] <loguser1> ?
[02:00] <stdin> I don't know, never use any
[02:00] <BluesKaj> ktorrent
[02:00] <stdin> try them, see what you like
[02:01] <MilitantPotato> !samba
[02:01] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:01] <BluesKaj> the donkeys are clunky on linux
[02:01] <loguser1> and i dont knw why.        limewire and kazaa (in windows) and not searching any thing for me. and lime wire doesnet even connects....................
[02:01] <stdin> just keep discussion of P2P legal and you ask for support
[02:02] <BluesKaj> ktorrent has legal sites
[02:03] <stdin> BluesKaj: all P2P apps are legal, it's how you use them that may or may not be ;)
[02:03] <BluesKaj> :)
[02:03] <loguser1> what could be the reason
[02:04] <Greenery> try emule
[02:04] <Greenery> or amule
[02:05] <loguser1> why its not connecting
[02:05] <loguser1> or some not searching if connected
[02:05] <Greenery> maybe ur behind firewall
[02:06] <stdin> !limewire
[02:06] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[02:07] <loguser1> Greenery:  ya. i have cable internet.. do you think they have stop it?
[02:08] <loguser1> i have not firewall on my pc
[02:08] <Greenery> not even router?
[02:09] <loguser1> i dont know these things. i  have cable net . by lan card
[02:10] <loguser1> so can they restrict it?         and how can i use it?
[02:11] <Greenery> it could be caused by ur ISP, they might block it. So u might as well ask ur ISP abt it
[02:11] <loguser1> ok
[02:11] <loguser1> how can an isp block such a things. they block the ports that it uses?
[02:12] <Greenery> yeah most likely
[02:12] <loguser1> if i chant the ports. that will do..?
[02:12] <Greenery> chant?
[02:13] <loguser1> if i chant the ports used in limewire*. that will do..?
[02:13] <loguser1> chant.?
[02:13] <loguser1> what?
[02:14] <Greenery> i really dont understand u, sorry
[02:14] <sledge> loguser1: You mean 'shut?'
[02:14] <loguser1> sledge:  what?
[02:14] <loguser1> Greenery:  whats chant?
[02:15] <loguser1> Greenery:  if i change the ports number that limewire uses. then it will work?
[02:15] <Greenery> oh change
[02:15] <Zombocom_away> hey everyone
[02:15] <Zombocom_away> if I want to reconfigure my xserver to run in a higher res
[02:16] <Zombocom_away> because I know that the card can take it
[02:16] <Greenery> well it can if ur not behind any firewall
[02:16] <Zombocom_away> how do I do that
[02:17] <loguser1> k
[02:17] <stdin> !resolution | Zombocom
[02:17] <ubotu> Zombocom: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:17] <BluesKaj> Zombocom, k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/hardware-tab/admin mode...set your res on the slider
[02:17] <stdin> Zombocom: and dont' change nick on away
[02:18] <loguser1> how to upgrade kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 ?       and maintaiiining the same apps and settings. ?
[02:18] <stdin> loguser1: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[02:21] <loguser1> thx
[02:22] <jeff____> .
[02:22] <jagcorvair> Ok. DVD plays, but it's "scrambled"
[02:23] <jagcorvair> DVD plays in Kaffeine
[02:24] <jeff____> silly question... why can't I find "advanced desktop effects settings" in my install?
[02:25] <jalbert> hmmm I installed the ntfs-3g packages but it still won't see any NTFS filesystems
[02:25] <jalbert> I have an NTFS partition on my hdd, an NTFS DVD-ROM and an external NTFS hdd
[02:26] <loguser1>  last thing. if i pluge that hardrive to an other pc. with different hardware. like from p3 to p4. will kubuntu work
[02:27] <jalbert> it's teling me I need root access to unmount my CDROM drive
[02:28] <stdin> jeff____: because kubuntu doesn't come pre-installed with compiz
[02:29] <stdin> loguser1: should work fine
[02:29] <loguser1> windows do not work with sligh hardware change.............
[02:29] <stdin> loguser1: you may have to reconfigure the graphics and network, but that's about it
[02:30] <loguser1> k
[02:30] <stdin> loguser1: I know, but linux is not windows :)
[02:30] <loguser1> :) ya
[02:30] <loguser1> so i can use any hardware..........
[02:30] <jeff____> stdin: I thought 7.10 did?  Adept shows compiz installed
[02:30] <stdin> yeah
[02:30] <stdin> jeff____: Ubuntu does, not Kubuntu
[02:30] <stdin> !compiz | jeff____
[02:30] <ubotu> jeff____: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:32] <jeff____> stdin: thanks. I'm off to read!
[02:32] <Dragnslcr> jeff__- also make sure you have compizconfig-settings-manager installe
[02:33] <stdin> Dragnslcr: the guide says to install it
[02:34] <Greenery> what's the equivalent of compiz in KDE 4?
[02:34] <jagcorvair> !kaffeine
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <jagcorvair> !info kaffeine
[02:34] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.5-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2180 kB, installed size 6128 kB
[02:34] <jagcorvair> !dvd
[02:34] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:35] <stdin> Greenery: kwin composite
[02:35] <Greenery> still underdevelop?
[02:36] <stdin> yeah, kde4 is at the Release Candidate 1 now
[02:36] <stdin> still got a while to go
[02:37] <Greenery> i'm waiting when KDE4 is very stable enough
[02:37] <gribelu> january then :)
[02:38] <stdin> that's not "very stable", that's "barely out the door"
[02:38] <gribelu> will rock though
[02:38] <gribelu> nothing is 'very stable' anyway
[02:38] <stdin> KDE always rocKs
[02:38] <gribelu> i'll take 'stable'
[02:39] <Greenery> lol
[02:39] <gribelu> stdin: after using ubuntu (gnome) for 2 weeks after a few years of kde.. i looooooooooooooove kde
[02:40] <gribelu> everything crashes and i can configure nothing
[02:40] <stdin> I've been a "kde guy" for >10years
[02:40] <gribelu> keep it up
[02:40] <stdin> never did like gnome
[02:40] <gribelu> i think it's the future
[02:40] <gribelu> in linux anyway
[02:41] <stdin> kde4 will make gome look like a child's toy
[02:41] <gribelu> used to be somewhat ugly
[02:41] <stdin> which gnome actually is
[02:41] <gribelu> kde4 will fix it
[02:42] <gribelu> gnome is like a dev's toy
[02:42] <stdin> how can kde be ugly when it's look is entirely configurable? if you don't like it, change it :)
[02:42] <gribelu> something to use... but not to live with
[02:42] <Greenery> sweet they got videos of Kwin Composite on youtube
[02:42] <gribelu> stdin: out of the box though..
[02:43] <stdin> out of the box it has the "windows" interface, just because it's the simplest interface and the one new uses expect
[02:43] <stdin> low learning-curve to start with
[02:43] <Greenery> yeah easy for windows user to get use to
[02:43] <stdin> then you click Settings and your mind blows :p
[02:44] <gribelu> i hope kde4 will still be somewhat compatible with compiz-fusion because i don't think their own 3dee stuff will live too long
[02:44] <stdin> I remember spending weeks configuring every conceivable options in kde2
[02:44] <stdin> was a fun few weeks too
[02:45] <gribelu> stdin: the widgets still look like they are bolted on the apps though... till i install something better that is.
[02:45] <gribelu> not trying to trash it just saying
[02:45] <stdin> gribelu: that's because they really are bolted to the apps :p
[02:45] <stdin> (in 3x)
[02:46] <gribelu> in gnome i configured everything i could but it still sucks and nothing looks like i wanted it to... in kde i managed to do it and it was stable too
[02:47] <gribelu> the good thing is that linux is becoming usable and that's what matters ;)
[02:47] <stdin> Qt4 is a great tool too, it makes generating a fully interactive and nice looking GUI app really easy
[02:47] <stdin> I made my 1st working Qt4 app after 3 days of reading
[02:48] <stdin> and that's with me being a C++ noob too
[02:48] <gribelu> and i'll be able to share Basket notes with people that use windows and macs
[02:48] <gribelu> :D
[02:49] <gribelu> how will the windows compatibility work btw? is it like installing the .net framework or something?
[02:50] <stdin> well Qt just works on windows mac and *nix
[02:50] <stdin> same source code for all
[02:51] <stdin> if it works on one, it should (if not using platform specific features) work on all
[02:51] <gribelu> so the windows user just installs the app without any other (big) libs and stuff?
[02:51] <biovore> if you build static yes..
[02:52] <stdin> they install Qt, but that's not a big deal. they already install Qt if they have google earth or skype
[02:52] <biovore> alot of things use QT
[02:52] <gribelu> i always hated installing .net/mono apps simply because i had to install a big framework..
[02:52] <stdin> and they seem fine with using firefox (which uses static GTK+)
[02:52] <stdin> which us HUGE
[02:53] <stdin> they probably already have Qt, if not, they get an .exe to install it, or go to trollteck and  download it
[02:53] <gribelu> but for example BasKet is one app that i'd like to share with some people in my team.. would be cool if it would just work (if the devs make it compatible that is)
[02:54] <stdin> getting kdelibs to compile on windows is the hardest part
[02:54] <stdin> and the most important
[02:54] <gribelu> duh :D\
[02:54] <stdin> it's been *nix only for so long it needed a complete rewrire
[02:55] <stdin> as with the rest of the kde core componants
[02:55] <stdin> if you can get kdelibs, kdepimlibs and kdebase to compile and install in windows, then you can get pretty much any kde app on it
[02:56] <gribelu> well.. if you say it's so easy to use QT as a framework it should become a standard in no time
[02:56] <stdin> Qt, not QT :p
[02:56] <gribelu> my bad
[02:56] <gribelu> :))
[02:56] <stdin> and it must be easy if I did it :p
[02:57] <gribelu> i wouldn't know... when is build UI's it's in html and css
[02:57] <stdin> learnt some basic C++ (ie: finished my beginners book) last month and spent a few days reading the Qt guides and tutorials
[02:58] <stdin> I didn't use any html/css, just pure C++
[02:58] <stdin> that's what was so cool
[02:58] <stdin> I don't even have to be a good designer :p
[02:58] <gribelu> i'm a web developer.. but i always wanted to try some C stuff
[02:59] <gribelu> tried it too but only as a toy
[02:59] <Zombocom> hey
[02:59] <Zombocom> what's the command for configuring xorg.conf
[02:59] <Zombocom> the program that does it based upon Q&A
[02:59] <stdin> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:59] <Zombocom> thank you
[02:59] <gribelu> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:59] <gribelu> yeah
[02:59] <stdin> heh
[03:00] <gribelu> hey you're not sleeping.. so i guess no hardy packages yet? :))
[03:01] <stdin> ok, kdeartwork-kde4 failed to build (should be a small fix), kdepim-kde build depends on a non existent package, now that's going to be a pain
[03:01] <crazy_bus> I set k9copy to 4300mb and it's still making files too big for a dvd5
[03:01] <stdin> this is is my ppa, I don't have any control over the ubuntu main buildds
[03:02] <gribelu> hmm
[03:02] <gribelu> any chance to install your packages on hardy?
[03:03] <stdin> well, it took 2 days to get to this point for gutst
[03:03] <stdin> gutsy*
[03:03] <gribelu> i'm in a hurry because if i don't, i'll just erase this ubuntu and install a clean kubuntu... and i probably won't risk it's health with kde4
[03:03] <stdin> and the source packages are in the hardy repos, just need to be built
[03:04] <stdin> you can't damage the kubuntu install by installing kde4 packages
[03:04] <gribelu> i can't take any more gnome :|
[03:05] <stdin> why are you using hardy anyway?
[03:05] <gribelu> so your ppa is no good for me?
[03:06] <stdin> no, my packages are build against the gutsy version of libraries. even if you installed the package they wouldn't work
[03:06] <gribelu> what if i changed my repos back to the gutsy ones?
[03:07] <stdin> wouldn't work either
[03:07] <gribelu> damn it... i still don't know why i changed the repos to hardy
[03:07] <stdin> you'd have newer package that are available, so no change
[03:08] <stdin> looks like kde4libs debs should be moving in to universe soon
[03:09] <stdin> anyway, I'll come back to the packages tomorrow (or 4 hours, which ever comes first) :P
[03:09] <gribelu> sleep well
[03:10]  * stdin heads to bed, to sleep per chance to dream... about something other then C++ classes for a change
[03:12] <jagcorvair> Why would I get this error message...
[03:12] <jagcorvair> Sound server fatal error:
[03:12] <jagcorvair> cpu overload, aborting
[03:37] <vit_> epa que tal
[03:37] <vit_> rtyw4yw4yw4wyw45y
[03:38] <vit_> hola
[03:39] <vit_> chao
[03:40] <jagcorvair> !dma
[03:40] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[03:42] <DaSkreech> !es
[03:42] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[03:43] <lachlan> can somebody tell me what im supposed to do in the last instruction on this page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[03:44] <lachlan> i am not quite understanding what it wants me to do
[03:45] <DrUnKnMuNkY> hey has anyone tried installing kde 4 on their machine yet?
[03:46] <jagcorvair> Does anyone know how to enable DMA in Kubuntu?
[03:47] <lachlan> im trying to install it but i dont understand the final instruction on this page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php DrUnKnMuNkY
[03:47] <jagcorvair> I get this error:   HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[03:48] <DaSkreech> lachlan: What don't you get?
[03:48] <lachlan> it talks about moving files and the like but i dont know if they mean the text inside the files or the files themselves
[03:49] <DrUnKnMuNkY> lachlan: i believe that it's just the text inside the file
[03:50] <munk__> my knetworkmanager acts weird at random times.....sometimes it says that there is no device detected and sometimes just doesnt connect to a wireless network..
[03:50] <DaSkreech> lachlan: it says copy in which case it doesn't matter :)
[03:50] <munk__> please help
[03:50] <DaSkreech> munk__: Knetworkmanager is weird
[03:50] <DaSkreech> What card?
[03:51] <lachlan> well yes it kinda does. do they want the text from /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop put in  /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop coz  /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop doesnt exist
[03:51] <DaSkreech> lachlan: So make it
[03:52] <lachlan> ok
[03:52] <munk__> DaSkreech, its broadcom bcm4401-B0 100Base-TX thats what i get when i do lspci
[03:52] <Dragnslcr> Creating a file and copying text into it would be exactly the same as just copying the file
[03:53] <lachlan> except the file names are different dragnslcr
[03:53] <DaSkreech> sudo cat /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop > /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop should work
[03:53] <DrUnKnMuNkY> lachlan: this is so that you don't overwrite the existing kde boot file. it allows you to choose between kde4 and kde
[03:53] <DaSkreech> sudo cp /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop  /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop works just as well
[03:53] <DaSkreech> lachlan: ^^
[03:53] <DaSkreech> same thing
[03:54] <DaSkreech> one copies the file one copies the contents of the file
[03:55] <DrUnKnMuNkY> so i've managed to install kde 4 but the system tray as well as a good number of the visual items are totally screwed up
[03:56] <DrUnKnMuNkY> would i be better asking in #kde4-devel?
[03:56] <munk__> DaSkreech, what should i do?
[03:56] <DaSkreech> munk__: You could stop using knetworkmanager until hardy
[03:57] <DaSkreech>  the new one is loads better
[03:57] <DaSkreech> DrUnKnMuNkY: #kde will do nicely
[03:57] <lachlan> thanks guys im gonna see if KDE4 works in just a moment
[03:57] <DaSkreech> Unless yo uare offering to fix the problems
[03:57] <munk__> DaSkreech, and what do i do then cuz i dunno how to make it work without that lol...
[03:57] <DaSkreech> !wifi
[03:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:57] <munk__> thanks
[03:57] <DaSkreech> I think that has a doc on raw wireless
[03:58] <DaSkreech> once you get it working once jsut make it into a script
[03:58] <munk__> but sometimes i use wired:-s
[03:58] <munk__> what do i do then?
[03:58] <DaSkreech> Wired should work fine
[03:58] <DaSkreech>  just shut off knetworkmanger and wired will pick up
[03:58] <munk__> but it doesnt..
[03:58] <munk__> :-s
[03:59] <DaSkreech> munk__: oh run sudo dhclient
[03:59] <DaSkreech> assuming you have DHCP
[03:59] <munk__> i do and what did that do?
[03:59] <munk__> made my internet work
[03:59] <munk__> thanks:D
[04:01] <DaSkreech> munk__: yeah it prompts the network card to ask for an ip address
[04:01] <jsubl2> I just install kubuntu today.  my ipw3945 and knetworkmanager have been doing great so far :-)
[04:02] <munk__> DaSkreech,thanks a lot man this is the 3rd time u helped me..
[04:02] <lachlan> thanks guys im using KDE4 now
[04:02] <DaSkreech> munk__: Ah I remember two
[04:02] <DaSkreech> I'm getting old :)
[04:02] <DaSkreech> lachlan: enojy :)
[04:02] <lachlan> thx
[04:02] <DrUnKnMuNkY> lachlan: how does your system tray look? and you taskbar in general
[04:02] <DaSkreech> lachlan: give us a review in 30 minutes
[04:02] <munk__> jsubl2, thats great man they worked fine for me the first 3 times i installed it...but i keep playing around and messing up stuff and now it started acting funny
[04:02] <lachlan> i shall post on my blog for sure
[04:03] <lachlan> its nice and blue
[04:03] <jsubl2> munk__: hang in there you will get the hang of it.
[04:03] <munk__> DaSkreech,  you helped me before a while back...
[04:03] <DaSkreech> lachlan: Ha ha :)
[04:03] <DaSkreech> lachlan: have you seen the default wallpaper?
[04:03] <lachlan> the new kmenu is fantastic imo much more modern
[04:03]  * DaSkreech thumbs up munk__
[04:03] <lachlan> im using the defult flower wallpaper
[04:03] <munk__> jsubl2,  hehe i know...funny thing is i have 4 computer 3 linux boxes and a winblows(my brothers) and i have gentoo on my main one and i find gentoo a bit easier sometimes..less confusing so to say
[04:04] <DaSkreech> lachlan: great! I like the command line thingy
[04:04] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi
[04:04] <DaSkreech> hey CPrgmSwR2
[04:04] <munk__> DaSkreech, do you know about the system tray compiz problem with kubuntu? maybe how to fix it too?:P
[04:04] <jesse> Help please: My graphics card is only working for certain parts of the computer.  When moving a window, it's as if it is software rendered (in kwin).  But if I switch to compiz, I can do a cube rotatation just fine.  Moving a window in either is slow.  Thank you.
[04:04] <jsubl2> munk__: yeah i just quit gentoo a couple of months ago
[04:04] <munk__> jsubl2, how so?
[04:04] <DaSkreech> >_<
[04:04] <DaSkreech> I avoid compiz
[04:04] <CPrgmSwR2> DaSkreech: going to research the new ati drivers that was released today
[04:04] <DaSkreech>  #compiz-fusion guys don't though :)
[04:04] <jesse> DaSkreech: But even kwin is screwed up.
[04:04] <jsubl2> munk__: just tired of it.  wanted a change
[04:05] <CPrgmSwR2> jesse: not kwin3
[04:05] <munk__> DaSkreech,  hehe ok...thanks..
[04:05] <CPrgmSwR2> oops
[04:05] <munk__> jsubl2, i see
[04:05] <CPrgmSwR2> I mean kwin4 is pretty nice
[04:05] <jesse> Haha
[04:05] <DaSkreech> jesse: You unloaded kwin and loaded compiz ?
[04:05] <jesse> DaSkreech: compiz --replace
[04:05] <jesse> kwin --replace
[04:05] <jesse> etc
[04:06] <DaSkreech> ok
[04:06] <DrUnKnMuNkY> jesse: i've found kwin to be pretty buggy on my machine at least. i was using emerald instead
[04:06] <jesse> DrUnKnMuNkY: That's screwed up too.
[04:06] <jesse> But at least I can make my computer look like Vista.
[04:06] <lachlan> i think this laptop shouldnt be running 4. its not fast enough lol
[04:06] <jesse> At least then it looks like it's supposed to screw up
[04:07] <DaSkreech> DrUnKnMuNkY: kwin was buggy?
[04:08] <jesse> I guess I'll go to compiz, thanks for your guys' help
[04:08] <DrUnKnMuNkY> DaSkreech: for me it gave me lots of issues. windows wouldn't display properly.. usually it was just that their titlebars weren't displaying properly. i think it was a problem with compiz though. emerald+compiz has worked fine
[04:09] <jesse> DrUnKnMuNkY: DaSkreech: I am using e+c
[04:09] <DaSkreech> I'm really out of the compiz loop
[04:09] <jagcorvair> !purekde
[04:09] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[04:10] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: you can /msg ubotu too
[04:10] <lachlan> DaSkreech how does the quick access command line work?
[04:11] <DaSkreech> lachlan: open the menu if you know waht you want to run (marble for instance) just type it and it will open
[04:11] <killermach_> I have libdvdcss installed, but when I put my dvd movie in to watch it, I get a message about it being encrypted
[04:11] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: Sorry. Thank you.
[04:11] <killermach_> anyone know how to solve this, I've watched this movie on previous installs of kubuntu
[04:11] <lachlan> nice
[04:11] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: Would you know about DMA in Kubuntu? I keep getting an error message.
[04:11] <killermach_> currently kubuntu 7.04 Fiesty
[04:12] <jagcorvair> I followed the instructions per !dma, but it didn't work for me
[04:12] <DrUnKnMuNkY> !dvd
[04:12] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:12] <jagcorvair> Kaffeine is choppy
[04:12] <jagcorvair> I followed those, too, DrUnKnMuNkY
[04:12] <killermach_> thanks. check link now
[04:12] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: depends on what errors
[04:12] <DrUnKnMuNkY> killermach_: have you tried vlc?
[04:12] <jagcorvair> Tm_T:  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[04:13] <Tm_T> interesting
[04:13] <jagcorvair> It's choppy as all heck
[04:13] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: maybe for you
[04:13] <DrUnKnMuNkY> jagcorvair: sorry those dvd instructions were for killermach_
[04:13] <CPrgmSwR2> I didn't want to believe it :( ATI sucks at releases drivers
[04:14] <jagcorvair> DrUnKnMuNkY: NP
[04:14] <CPrgmSwR2> ATI released a driver with a watermark left in it
[04:14] <jesse> CPrgmSwR2: Ew
[04:15] <DaSkreech> AMD still needs to step up some way
[04:15] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: I bet they are. Initially, it was that Kaffeine would not let me play DVDs because of "insufficient rights" and "missing plug-ins". Ran into a guy at the bar yesterday and he told me to clear the CMOS on the Dell machine. Sure enough, it works. Now, it's choppy. I read that you need DMA to avoid choppy DVD playback.
[04:15] <DaSkreech> but open specs make all good
[04:15] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: yup, issue in your system
[04:16] <jesse> Can someone help me with resetting my configuration files regarding X and my videocard?
[04:16] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: Any clue?
[04:16] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: Heard of this in the past?
[04:17] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: I'd say, find what is usable ioctl to your device(s) and set DMA on
[04:17] <DaSkreech> !resolution | jjesse
[04:17] <ubotu> jjesse: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:17] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: doublecheck your bios settings etc etc
[04:17] <jesse> DaSkreech: ty
[04:18] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: What is ioctl?
[04:19] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ioctl
[04:25] <apparle> series problem here SOS SOS SOS
[04:25] <Tm_T> !helpme | apparle
[04:25] <ubotu> apparle: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:26] <apparle> the installer of gutsy crashes at 94% (installing grub) unable to boot
[04:28] <apparle> tell me what to do I get GRUB error 15 on booting
[04:28] <Tm_T> apparle: you have some virus protection set on for boot sectors in BIOS ?
[04:29] <apparle> Tm_T: what do you mean
[04:30] <Tm_T> apparle: in BIOS there should be option to "writeprotect boot sectors" or similar
[04:31] <Tm_T> some systems call it virus protection
[04:31] <Tm_T> if it's on, it could mess your GRUB install
[04:31] <Tm_T> so you might like to turn it off while installing system
[04:31] <apparle> Tm_T: do you ean BIOS protect in BIOS setup
[04:32] <Tm_T> apparle: mmm, shouldn't be that, but, erm, who knows how it is called there
[04:32] <Tm_T> so try that too
[04:32] <Malkavoru> i noticed i had a hard time installing grub with my schools old desktops, they had some old gateways or somthing i believe. Probably unrelated so ill keep quiet
[04:33] <Tm_T> gateway?
[04:33] <zaraki> evening.. whats up
[04:33] <apparle> is there any method by which I only have to install grub and not the whole setup aain
[04:34] <zaraki> you can boot up a live distro and do a repair on the mbr
[04:34] <Malkavoru> yes, the school had the old cheepo desktops, they were the old gateway brand machines. Wont install ubuntu or any other grub OS.
[04:35] <apparle> I have repaired the MBR in such a way that only windows bootloader starts
[04:35] <apparle> I can boot from windows right now
[04:35] <zaraki> you did a fixboot in windows recovery?
[04:37] <apparle> zaraki: Yes I have done that from Win XP but what to do about linux. now only WIn starts
[04:38] <zaraki> you need to reinsert grub into the mbr this should get you in the right direction
[04:38] <zaraki> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:38] <Dr_willis> there is the  !fixgrub wiki page that  details how to restore the grub boot loader
[04:38] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub
[04:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:38] <Dr_willis> read it carefully. :) you need to use ONE method to reinstall grub.  someone in here the other day missunderstood and tried to do them all.
[04:39] <DaSkreech> Oh lord
[04:39] <zaraki> Dr_willis: do you have a link to configure and start/stop artsd for kde?
[04:39] <DaSkreech> spdos
[04:39] <Dr_willis>  if its a service  it would be 'sudo /etc/init.d/artsd stop'
[04:40] <Dr_willis> It dont seem to be a service. :0
[04:40] <Dr_willis> !arts
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <Dr_willis> !artsd
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about artsd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <noobie> !artsd
[04:40] <noobie> ??
[04:40] <noobie> ohh well
[04:40] <Dr_willis> Hmm..  the alsa page may have some info on it
[04:40] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[04:40] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:41] <zaraki> danke.. i'll read over these and try to fix my stuff
[04:41] <noobie> can someone give me link or somewhere that tell me how to install beryl on Gutsy ?
[04:41] <DaSkreech> !compiz
[04:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:42] <noobie> thanks mann
[04:42] <noobie> i just got my CDs from Shipi
[04:42] <noobie> shiptit
[04:42] <noobie> and i just finish installing it
[04:43] <noobie> thanks a lot for the link though
[04:43] <echo> how to find a song?
[04:44] <DaSkreech> echo: Sorry?
[04:44] <noobie> !compiz
[04:44] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:44] <echo> thk
[04:45] <echo> !compiz
[04:45] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:46] <apparle> does the installer doanything after installing grub
[04:46] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Grub is one of the last things it does.. Not sure if its the last or not..
[04:47] <apparle> Dr_willis: my setup crashes at 94%(installing grub) . Will it do if I repair the MBR
[04:48] <Dr_willis> apparle,  no idea - You using the live cd ? or alternative install cd?
[04:48] <Dr_willis> try it and see is about all i can say.
[04:49] <apparle> live CD
[04:50] <apparle> Anybody here wo actually knows what all the installer in live CD works
[04:55] <Dr_willis> I always install with the Alternative Install cd. Sorry. only used the live cd installer a few times
[04:56] <apparle> Dr_willis: I don't have any choice as shipit ships the live CD
[04:56] <DaSkreech> apparle: Wait what?
[04:57] <DaSkreech> they don't ship both any more?
[04:57] <DaSkreech> Or maybe they only did that for LTS
[04:58] <apparle> DaSkreech: do you know if live cd installer does anything else after grub install
[04:59] <DaSkreech> I can find out
[05:01] <DaSkreech> apparle: It is the last step the only thing run after that is a script to ask you if you would like to reboot
[05:10] <DaSkreech> So reinstall grub and reboot You should be good
[05:15] <Airforce55555> has anybody here seen pans labyrinth?
[05:16] <Dr_willis> Airforce55555,  i saw how they advertised the *@(@#*#@ out of it. :) and figured if they had to market it that hard... it must be about as good as that Godzilla movie was. (not)
[05:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:16] <mordaunt> is there some way to disable unresponsible application greying?
[05:17] <Airforce55555> from what i can get from youtube. its freakin amazing movie
[05:17] <mordaunt> if you use compiz that is
[05:17] <Airforce55555> im interested becausse i just say L.D. Bell high school marching band do a show on it
[05:17] <Dr_willis> Airforce55555,  try stage6.com
[05:17] <Airforce55555> full movie/
[05:17] <Airforce55555> ?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> wont know untill ya look. :)
[05:18] <Dr_willis> they got a trailer i see on the fast search i just did
[05:18] <Airforce55555> i cant find the movie there :P
[05:19] <Dr_willis> way it normally works for me.. they will have the full movie.. in spanish..
[05:19] <Dr_willis> :P
[05:19] <apparle> DaSkreech: thank GOD. just tell me which method should I use to repair the GRUB by Super GRUB disk or by live CD method
[05:19] <Airforce55555> nvm wrong search XD
[05:19] <DaSkreech> apparle: Live CD works fine
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Airforce55555: It's a ok Movie. Nice Story.
[05:20] <DaSkreech> just no one has done anything like it in a long time
[05:21] <Airforce55555> I want to see it. that marching show was good and it sounds like a good movie
[05:25]  * Dr_willis marches to the beat of a drummer with no rythm.
[05:26] <apparle> DaSkreech: I am unable to understand how to repair GRUB using live CD. Could you please explain in more detail
[05:26] <flaccid> !grubfix
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grubfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <flaccid> !fixgrub
[05:26] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:26] <DaSkreech> apparle: ^^^
[05:27] <apparle> I have read it and not able to understand it
[05:28] <DaSkreech> apparle: you have windows?
[05:28] <apparle> yes
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Vista?
[05:28] <apparle> XP
[05:29] <apparle> DaSkreech: Windows XP
[05:30] <DaSkreech> OK
[05:30] <apparle> what next
[05:30] <DaSkreech> apparle: the quick start section should work for you
[05:31] <apparle> tell me step by step I am unable to understand it. I am a new user to linux
[05:32] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: I have played with all the options in the BIOS. Nothing that dealt with DMA. What am I doing wrong?
[05:32] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: noo idea to be honest
[05:33] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: Ok. Thanks.
[05:33] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: You trying to add dma to your dvd drive?
[05:33] <apparle> jagcorvair:what is your problem??
[05:33] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: Yes
[05:33] <DaSkreech> apparle: booted into the live cd?
[05:33] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: I just did that, I can help
[05:34] <jagcorvair> HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[05:34] <apparle> DaSkreech: next
[05:34] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: Please do tell.
[05:34] <jagcorvair> That was my error message, btw.
[05:34] <DaSkreech> apparle: open konsole
[05:34] <apparle> next
[05:34] <apparle> sudo grub done
[05:34] <apparle> next
[05:34] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: Open a terminal and I will show you what I did
[05:34] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: I'm ready when you are.
[05:35] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: First, we'll make a copy of your hdparm file just in case: sudo cp /etc/hdparm.conf /etc/hdparm.conf.backup
[05:35] <DaSkreech> apparle: type root and press tab
[05:35] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: done
[05:36] <apparle> I acanot do it now as I am not sitting on the computer. I will try when I am home. You tell me the steps
[05:36] <DaSkreech> apparle: you have your partition with grub on it?
[05:36] <DaSkreech> ah
[05:36] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: kdesudo kate /etc/hdparm.conf
[05:36] <apparle> DaSkreech: i don't know
[05:37] <DaSkreech> well root and your grub partition
[05:37] <DaSkreech> if you don't know type find /boot/grub/stage1
[05:37] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: Got it.
[05:37] <apparle> next
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Which will give you the right entry
[05:37] <apparle> next
[05:37] <DaSkreech> then root (partition)
[05:37] <DaSkreech> setup (hard drive)
[05:37] <apparle> next
[05:38] <DaSkreech> quit
[05:38] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: Look at this and add it to the bottom of your hdparm.conf file in kate: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/
[05:38] <DaSkreech> then reboot the machine
[05:38] <apparle> DaSkreech: I love you thanks
[05:38] <apparle> bye
[05:38] <apparle> bye everyone
[05:38] <DaSkreech> Bye
[05:39] <clown> hello every one
[05:39] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: Ummm... it's blank
[05:39] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: Oops, sorry: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/?show=m6df8e1ae
[05:40] <clown> i have a problem about my kmix
[05:40] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: Did that.
[05:40] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: Save the file and you're done
[05:40] <clown> what file?
[05:41] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/?show=m2c91b3f1
[05:41] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: I already had the file saved as such.
[05:41] <DaSkreech> clown: What file for what?
[05:41] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: Then you should have dma enabled for that drive
[05:42] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: Right. Keyword = should
[05:42] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: I do this after every initial install and usually reboot at this point. I'm not sure if you actually need to reboot.
[05:42] <clown> no what i mean is
[05:42] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: I did a reboot and did a reboot into BIOS. Nothing
[05:43] <jagcorvair> Kaffeine plays my DVDs really choppy
[05:43] <clown> im using kubuntu in my dell 1520
[05:43] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: :(
[05:43] <jagcorvair> MPlayer is good, but everything else bails
[05:43] <clown> but the sound is not work
[05:43] <DaSkreech> !sound
[05:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:44] <earl> so my ksysguard processlist lists "apache2" several times. as far as i know, i don't run a webserver. any idea why this is?
[05:44] <earl> when i kill them, they come right back too.
[05:45] <earl> it also lists "getty" like 6 times.
[05:46] <ardchoille> earl: open a terminal and type: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 status
[05:46] <ardchoille> earl: The getty lines are normal
[05:47] <earl> * Usage: /etc/init.d/apache2 {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload|start-htcacheclean|stop-htcacheclean}
[05:48] <ardchoille> earl: And you haven't installed apache web server or don't want it running?
[05:48] <earl> dont wnat it
[05:48] <earl> and certainly don't awnt 6 instances of it
[05:48] <ardchoille> earl: open a terminal and type: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[05:49] <ardchoille> earl: At this point I'd take the system offline and try to determine how a web server got installed. Sounds to me like a security breach has taken place.
[05:49] <earl> okay. sounds like it's gone.
[05:49] <earl> no i don't think it's anything that serious.
[05:49] <ardchoille> earl: Did you perhaps install lamp?
[05:50] <earl> i don't think so;
[05:50] <earl> i've been fooling around with a lot of different programs. kiba-dock, compiz, stuff like that.
[05:50] <ardchoille> earl: Well, if you didn't install a web server, then someone else did and it's running.. serving something
[05:50] <earl> its possible something installed apache as a dependency
[05:51] <munk__> where are the acpi settings in kde? i cant find them again and i need to change something...i forgot where they were
[05:51] <earl> next question: how do you disable kicker?
[05:52] <ardchoille> earl: You don't want the kde panel at all?
[05:52] <earl> now that i have kiba-dock, having the panel is redundant
[05:52] <ardchoille> True
[05:53] <munk__> where are the acpi settings in kde? i cant find them again and i need to change something...i forgot where they were
[05:54] <ardchoille> earl: I'm not sure how to keep it from restarting when you log into kde, but to stop it for now: dcop kicker kicker quit
[05:54] <earl> well i just generally kill it from ksysguard
[05:54] <snowdonkey> munk__: I'm not really sure myself but try "locate acpi"
[05:55] <munk__> snowdonkey, lol finds many things but i rmbr somewhere i activted something with hibernate sleep and all those and i cant rmbr where..:(
[05:56] <ardchoille> earl: Or you could just set it to hide
[05:56] <earl> i'd like to have it both out of sight and out of memory, but also there's no way to permanently hide it i dont think
[05:56] <snowdonkey> munk__: hibernate.sh?
[05:57] <munk__> no it was some gui somewhere i didnt edit the file myself..
[05:59] <clown> hello
[05:59] <earl> next question: have you been having trouble with getting your lappy to sleep?
[05:59] <earl> mine refuses to go to sleep correctly
[06:00] <clown> this the first time using the linux
[06:00] <jagcorvair> How can I add VLC as the player option when I put a DVD in the drive?
[06:00] <clown> so i dont now
[06:00] <clown> what im going to do
[06:00] <clown> i install kubuntu 7.10
[06:01] <snowdonkey> munk__: For simple start/stop go to KControl->System Services->Administration Mode->acpid
[06:01] <clown> in my laptop
[06:01] <earl> mine goes to a black screen and the processor stays hot. and then it won't wake up, i have to hold the power button to shut it off.
[06:02] <clown> when i install
[06:02] <clown> i dont hear any sounds
[06:03] <clown> kmix is not running
[06:03] <DaSkreech> !sound | clown
[06:03] <ubotu> clown: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:03] <clown>  thank you verymuch
[06:08] <Dr_willis> thers some newer laptop audio chipsets that dont have linux support yet. (well alsa may need to be updated)
[06:08] <surgy> whats the package name of the gtk developement kit?
[06:09] <surgy> the one with the gtk-devel packages
[06:09] <surgy> !gtk
[06:09] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[06:09] <keaton> I accidently closed the volume control in the taskbar, anyone know the command to start it again?
[06:10] <snowdonkey> keaton: kmix
[06:10] <keaton> thanks.
[06:14] <bigtrouble> ok, i need bigggg help here: can't start *any* of my linux distros on the other drive...can't even use the livecd!!! lol
[06:15] <bigtrouble> <----coming to u live from *gulp* my winblows drive
[06:16] <DaSkreech> !grub
[06:16] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:16] <bigtrouble> has anyone ever heard of someone *not* being able to get the livecd to load all of a sudden?
[06:18] <bigtrouble> could anyone pls help me with this filesystems disaster?
[06:19] <bigtrouble> grub loads fine, just nothing else...always freezes/hangs at the 'mounting local filesystems' phase
[06:20] <Nyle> what about the live cd?
[06:20] <bigtrouble> it hangs too...will not complete being loaded
[06:20] <Nyle> did you recently mess with hw
[06:21] <TillUnn> Hello guys. Can abybody advise me any software (it will be better if it is free and open) for solving this kind of task: I have a predefined table where information is stored. For example there are 15 columns. There are a lot of people who have to manage that information, but some of them can have access only to 5 columns and others can read all but change nothing. Also I need to setup predefined values for each column os people couldn't paste their data
[06:21] <TillUnn> into that columns. Is there any open and free solution for my problem?
[06:21] <bigtrouble> nope, not at all...this happened tonight after a simple system total-freeze and cold boot
[06:21] <Nyle> TillUnn: sql?
[06:22] <TillUnn>  Nyle: yes. it would be great if it uses MySQL for example
[06:22] <nite613_> Tillunn: Sounds like you're looking for a generic table front-end with column level access control.
[06:22] <bigtrouble> Nyle, sorry...thought u might be talking to me...guess not
[06:22] <Nyle> TillUnn: no idea
[06:22] <Nyle> bigtrouble: i was
[06:23] <NickPresta> TillUnn, sounds like a 30 minute job if you have any knowledge of Python and/or Django :)
[06:23] <TillUnn> nite613_: yes. it is exactly what i mean. so is there any solution?
[06:23] <nite613_> I don't know of anything, that's the type of thing you usualy pay a couple hundred $ to a freelancer to whip up for you in php
[06:23] <bigtrouble> oh, thx :)
[06:23] <Nyle> bigtrouble: unfortunately I just worked 16 hours
[06:23] <TillUnn> NickPresta: yes maybe...
[06:23] <Nyle> Im laying down in bed about to enjoy a well earned smoke
[06:23] <Nyle> i have no energy to help anyone
[06:23] <nite613_> Don't smoke in bed!
[06:23] <Nyle> im just chatting cuz im bored
[06:24] <bigtrouble> Nyle, that's ok...thx anyway
[06:24] <Nyle>  but i can say this
[06:24] <Nyle> you should maybe check your bios settings
[06:24] <TillUnn> But the time is limited. And in addition there MUST be versioning support with rollback to any of previous conditions
[06:24] <Nyle> did you by any chance save any settings regarding ide/raid setup or anything
[06:25] <NickPresta> TillUnn, your task seems pretty specific. Perhaps a custom solution is required. I can't think of any premade models off hand...
[06:25] <nite613_> Yeah, that's really a custom software job. Sounds like it could be pretty cheap, though
[06:26] <nite613_> If this were 2001 I'd offer to write it for you for $400 ;)
[06:26] <Nyle> nite613_: would ou do it for 18.99?
[06:26] <nite613_> Nope!
[06:26] <Nyle> i would
[06:26] <NickPresta> I'll do it for $18.99 and hour and I promise this will take no less than 40 hours ;)
[06:26] <Nyle> what?
[06:26] <Nyle> is that supposed to make sense?
[06:26] <Nyle> ;)
[06:27] <nite613_> TillUnn: Hire Nyle, he says he can do it for $20
[06:27] <Nyle> no
[06:27] <Nyle> not for 20
[06:27] <nite613_> Nyle, I want my $1.01 finders fee
[06:27] <Nyle> for 18.99
[06:27] <Lynoure> hmm
[06:27] <NickPresta> Well gentlemen (and ladies), I'm off to bed for the night.
[06:27] <Nyle> hmm
[06:27] <Nyle> ok bye
[06:28] <Nyle> bigtrouble: before you boot the live cd, hit f4 or f6 i think to modify boot options.  in the kernel parameters line, take out the boosplash option and see at which step the live cd fails to start
[06:29] <Lynoure> TillUnn: you could try Rentacoder.com or somesuch, though the skills of the programmers there vary wildly.
[06:29] <snowdonkey> Nyle: that or Alt + F1 to get to tty
[06:30] <Nyle> snowdonkey: that doesn't show whats going on
[06:30] <Nyle> it just gives you a login prompt
[06:30] <snowdonkey> nyle: Ah, my mistake
[06:32] <Nyle> I am going to go watch XXX
[06:32] <Nyle> i have both of em
[06:33] <Nyle> vin deisel or ice cube?
[06:36] <TillUnn> Nyle: can i pm you?
[06:37] <Nyle> why?
[06:37] <Nyle> unless you wanna have cyber *** don't bother ;)
[06:37] <Nyle> for all support, just ask in the channel
[06:37] <TillUnn> i want to ask you some specific questions about the task i explained above. may be i could hire you? ;)
[06:37] <TillUnn> So can I? :)
[06:37] <Nyle> you may not
[06:38] <Nyle> I am not willing to take any jobs
[06:38] <TillUnn> O.K.
[06:38] <Nyle> thanks for considering me though, :)
[06:38] <Nyle> hope you find someone
[06:41] <Creationist> Is there a way to extract a WinZip archive that is password protected without having the password?
[06:46] <Lynoure> Creationist: most likely. Why do you need such a way?
[06:47] <Creationist> Lynoure: I don't really NEED it.  Just downloaded a couple games from a website that want me to go to some stupid porn site, register, etc., to get the password.  Yeah, not about doing that lol
[06:49] <Lynoure> Creationist: oh, sounds like the stuff you downloaded would not be safe to install anyway :)
[06:49] <Creationist> Lynoure: They're mobile games for my cell phone.
[06:50] <Creationist> Lynoure: But I should be able to find the same ones from a not-so-shady source. :P
[06:51] <Lynoure> Creationist: If you have never heard about compromised phones, today is a good day to find out. But google probably has something on the matter of opening those.
[06:51] <Creationist> Lynoure: See, my logic is, if they wanted to hijack a cell phone, why make a person jump through hoops to do it?  Perhaps to prove they're incredibly stupid? ;)
[06:53] <surgy> i need a way to translate joystick events into keypress events, and joy2key doesnt seam to do the job i keep getting errors about my joystick input, askingme if im sure my kernal supports it.can anyone help me?
[06:53] <surgy> !joy
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <surgy> !joy2key
[06:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joy2key - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:53] <Lynoure> Creationist: because in the same go you can also get your contact info to sell to spammers
[06:55] <bazhang> !info joy2key
[06:55] <ubotu> joy2key: Translate joystick movements into equivalent keystrokes. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-5 (gutsy), package size 18 kB, installed size 88 kB
[06:57] <surgy> can you help plz?
[06:57] <surgy> !info joymouse
[06:57] <ubotu> Package joymouse does not exist in gutsy
[06:59] <Creationist> Another question... is it possible to play mobile .jar files in Kubuntu?
[07:01] <surgy> can anyone help me?
[07:17] <DjDarkman> does someone know why doesn`t the php sessions work properly with an ubuntu apahce2+php install?
[07:18] <emilsedgh> DjDarkman: What?!
[07:19] <DjDarkman> for example <? session_start(); print_r($_SESSION); $_SESSION['x']++;?> wouldn`t work for me
[07:19] <DjDarkman> it would return an empty array at second access
[07:19] <emilsedgh> DjDarkman: hm, something is wrong from your side, get a phpinfo() and take a look at session stuff
[07:21] <DjDarkman> session autostart is off but that shouldn`t be the problem
[07:22] <emilsedgh> right, you ran session_start()
[07:31] <notv> is linux written mostly in C?
[07:31] <notv> or is it C++?
[07:31] <bazhang> the kernel?
[07:31] <notv> yea
[07:31] <bazhang> isn't c++ windows?
[07:31] <notv> i dont know
[07:31] <bazhang> I'd guess C
[07:32] <bazhang> wikipedia would have the final say though :}
[07:34] <ardchoille> bazhang: C/C++ isn't OS-specific
[07:35] <notv> where do i go to get my feet wet on writing drivers
[07:35] <bazhang> ardchoille: no need for a trip to wikipedia then :}
[07:35] <notv> theres always trips to wikipedia
[07:36] <bazhang> true
[07:37] <HackAvatar> you gotta give it to the bloke who thought up wikipedia
[07:37] <ardchoille> Indeed
[07:39] <Black_Monkey> !aptfix
[07:39] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[07:41] <pechan> ayuda
[07:41] <pechan> necesito librerias para mi amule 2.1.3
[07:41] <pechan> ehey
[07:41] <bazhang> !es | pechan
[07:41] <ubotu> pechan: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[07:49] <plontaj> hello !
[07:49] <plontaj> I have a problem
[07:50] <acemo> !brokenkde4
[07:50] <ubotu> If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[08:05] <knights> I'm new to ssh. When I've ssh'd into a remote box, is it possible for me to open files on the remote machine using apps installed on my local box? Also, how do I go about accessing my local drive from within ssh to copy files from one to the other?
[08:05] <knights> Is either possible using ssh?
[08:09] <ardchoille> knights: scp - secure copy
[08:22] <anushantha> hi
[08:23] <Bux__> hi alles iO
[08:28] <god_> hello
[08:28] <Tm_T> god_: interesting nick you have
[08:29] <god_> thank you
[08:46] <Savior> hello! does somebody know how to downgrade a package?
[08:49] <Tm_T> Savior: unless you have older package somewhere safe, there's none
[08:50] <Savior> so there is only one version for a package in a repo?
[08:50] <girrig> HELP! My kubuntu feisty asked me last night to upgrade to Gutsy, so I did. But, about 4 package upgrades failed, but the progress bar continued growing. However, it stalled at 54%... I let it ran for over 6 hours but the upgrade stalled, so I rebooted... now I'm using it but there are several errors ocurring... no dhcp client, some commands crashing... what should I do to fix it?
[09:01] <Logi> Does "/usr/lib/kde4/bin/konsole: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeprint.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" ring any bells? It's supposed to be in kdelibs5 but isn't
[09:06] <Logi> I just re-installed kdelibs5, kdelibs5-data and kdelibs5-dev but to no avail. And yet packages.ubuntu.com claims that libs/kdelibs5 contains usr/lib/kde4/lib/libkdeprint.so.5
[09:06] <Logi> something is messed up and I'm hoping it's me...
[09:08] <Logi> but... of course... I'm installing rc from another repository, so what packages.debian.org says has nothing to do with it.
[09:11] <Dresken> My sound doesn't seem to be working now even tho it was working just fine before I restarted
[09:11] <Dresken> Any idea what might have caused this?
[09:13] <mous16> hi to all..  i see here http://kubuntu.org/packages/  that there are many programs available on the server. is possible to ad the server to apt source list? what i've to do?
[09:15] <stephan_> Hi, I just downloaded a GDM theme, how do I install it?  In the login window preferences window, the themes tab has an add button, but I can't get it to 'see' the theme file?
[09:16] <mous16> stephan_: you can't see the file because it's a theme for gnome, and not for kde
[09:16] <stephan_> I know, I already installed GDM, and have used several gdm themes successfully, but only those that an be installed through adept.
[09:18] <mous16> stephan_: o... i'm sorry, but i've no ideas!
[09:20] <stephan_> Don't worry about it, I should be studying anyway
[09:27] <WildeSehnsucht> hello. i have a small problem using nvclock_(qt|gtk). if i set value of "GPU clock" or "Memory clock" the system freezes and only "Reset" button helps. Is there any minimal settings for GeForce FX 5700 (AGP)?
[09:31] <Dresken> How the heck do I save the changes to a file once I've run it in terminal?
[09:31] <Dresken> sudo nano /etc/modules for example
[09:32] <hangthedj> Dresken, i think Control+O
[09:32] <hangthedj> also if you hit Control+X it will ask if you want to save
[09:32] <WildeSehnsucht> In pico (nano) it''s Ctrl + O
[09:32] <Jucato> in nano, Ctrl+O is write Out (save)
[09:32] <Jucato> Ctrl+X is eXit
[09:33] <hangthedj> but if you have unsaved stuff it asks
[09:33] <hangthedj> but ctrl+o is probably the better way to go
[09:33] <Jucato> Ctrl+O, Ctrl+X usually...
[09:33] <Jucato> (or :wq for vim)
[09:33] <Jucato> :D
[09:34] <Dresken> Well I've rechecked the file and the entry I added is not there even after pressing ctrl+o
[09:34] <hangthedj> it should prompt for a file name and then hit enter
[09:34] <Dresken> nvm
[09:35] <Dresken> done, thanks for the help
[09:35] <Dresken> restart :x
[09:35] <hangthedj> personally i like Joe the best out of all the cli editors
[09:35] <hangthedj> but i'm just used to it.
[09:37] <emilsedgh> Jucato: are the rc1 packages out?
[09:37] <ardchoille> emilsedgh: Did you check the channel topic?
[09:37] <Jucato> emilsedgh: yep. see the topic
[09:37] <Dresken> Bleh
[09:38] <Dresken> sound still won't work
[09:38] <Jucato> don't ask me about them though... I almost never use the packages :)
[09:38] <Dresken> I don't get it, it was working just fine before I restarted
[09:40] <emilsedgh> thanks, sorry
[09:40] <emilsedgh> Jucato: so what do you use?
[09:40] <Jucato> svn :)
[09:43] <hangthedj> ok this question is half kde, does anyone know if macports has kate?
[09:44] <hangthedj> i use a mac at work, and i hate the mac alternatives.
[09:44] <Jucato> #kde-darwin
[09:44] <hangthedj> :)
[09:44] <hangthedj> wow they have a channel for everything
[09:49] <sdlnxgk> anyone have a Motorola A1200 Ming that they change themes and ringtones on??? what program are you using if you do???
[10:05] <antoine_> salut tout le modne
[10:07] <_Shade_> hi
[10:07] <bazhang> hi!
[10:07] <_Shade_> is there anyone familiar to kde4?
[10:07] <bytems> hiho
[10:07] <bazhang> a bit..
[10:08] <BB83> Hi all ! I'm trying to figure out why apt-get wants to remove the kde metapackage when i remove superkaramba ? Is it a problem, will it brake the kde desktop ?
[10:09] <_Shade_> i have just built the recent version and i am a bit amazed about the progress here in just two weeks. It's becoming usable!
[10:09] <pag> BB83, kde is just a meta-package.. it contains only depencies. you won't lose anything even if it's removed.
[10:09] <SSJ_GZ> _Shade_: Yeah, all the pieces are beginning to come together very rapidly!
[10:09] <bazhang> it is looking nice _Shade_
[10:11] <bazhang> nice story about it at osnews.com
[10:11] <BB83> thaks pag !
[10:11] <BB83> *thanks
[10:11] <pag> np :)
[10:11] <_Shade_> one thing i'm wondering is when i right click on the desktop, i haven't got some usual actions like create new file or configure the desktop. Will it be implemented?
[10:12] <SSJ_GZ> _Shade_: I'd suggest asking in #plasma, but I think everyone is asleep atm :)
[10:12] <bazhang> not sure about the final form--the link above leads to one of the devs blog posts--a bit more meat there
[10:12] <SSJ_GZ> _Shade_: "Configure" should be there, but I think it missed the RC1 inclusion cut-off.
[10:14] <_Shade_> SSJ_GZ: well it is some kind of configure but it allows only the slideshow mode, nothing else
[10:14] <_Shade_> SSJ_GZ: do you know how can i enable the kwin compositing>
[10:15] <SSJ_GZ> _Shade_: I think configuration via the UI is still very primitive.  The panel, as far as I'm aware, currently has no available config options - you have to actually change the source code itself! :)
[10:15] <apparle> anybody tried the new KDE
[10:16] <SSJ_GZ> _Shade_: Right-click on a window border -> Configure Window Behaviour(?) -> Desktop Effects
[10:16] <SSJ_GZ> _Shade_: That's purely from memory, so probably wrong :)
[10:16] <bazhang> haha
[10:16] <SSJ_GZ> apparle: Yes, we're talking about it now ;)
[10:16] <mzolisi> sup e'rybody
[10:17] <Logi> apparle: I did. didn't work.
[10:17] <mzolisi> what the problem is?
[10:17] <Logi> apparle: missing /usr/lib/kde4/lib/libkdeprint.so.5 so nothing interesting will run, not even konsole
[10:17] <przem__> Hello I've got problem with my kde. When I open Konqueror, all anything else I get error: could not find mime type application/octet-stream, Please can you tell me what can I do to avoid this problem?
[10:18] <mzolisi> have you got a desktop icon linking to konqueror?
[10:18] <Logi> mzolisi: in the version that packages.ubuntu.com knows about, that library is in kdelibs5 which I've got installed from the 4-RC1 package, but I get no such library
[10:19] <Logi> is there anyone here with /usr/lib/kde4/lib/libkdeprint.so.5 installes who could tell me what package it's from?
[10:19] <mzolisi> have the same problem , is messing up my upgrade to Gutsy
[10:19] <przem__> mzolisi: no I don't have
[10:19] <mzolisi> przem: so you click on the system tray to get to conqueror?
[10:20] <Logi> oh, and the usual having to --ignore-overwrite to get kde packages to install. There is a slightly broken script somewhere.
[10:20] <przem__> mzolisi: no I usualy press alt+F2 and enter ~ fo instance
[10:21] <przem__> mzolisi: to get to my home folder
[10:21] <_Shade_> SSJ_GZ: ok got it... nice but a bit slow
[10:21] <BB83> przem_, try to look in your filetypes settings in kde. You probably have something wrong like a generic entry for all extensions (I had that same problem)
[10:21] <Logi> could someone with a working kde4 tell me what 'dpkg --search /usr/lib/kde4/lib/libkdeprint.so.5' returns?
[10:21] <przem__> mzolisi: but this error shows almost all the time
[10:22] <mzolisi> sorry Logi: did'nt give much time to that issue, but im pretty sure our problems are related and are linked to kdelibs5 : in short, im stumped...for now
[10:22] <mzolisi> BB83 is probably right
[10:22] <Logi> ok, let's hope there is a fix soon after thepackager wakes up :)
[10:22] <przem__> BB83: how can I get there ?
[10:23] <mzolisi> It's probably a change in the filetypes settings for files of type 'bin' ?
[10:23] <BB83> Can you still have konqueror to start ?
[10:23] <przem__> BB83: Yes
[10:24] <BB83> in the konqueror window (kde 3.5?) you should have configuration -> file types
[10:24] <BB83> or something similar
[10:25] <BB83> przem, Sorry, it's configuration -> Configure konqueror -> file types
[10:26] <BB83> or "file associations"
[10:27] <mzolisi> similarly, put a shortcut to , say 'kate' on the desktop and dont associate with any filetypes . then click and you will be explicitly asked what application to associate with the 'bin' file
[10:27] <BB83> You have the first file type "all", I think you should have no applications associated to this (przem_)
[10:27] <mzolisi> if that makes sense
[10:27] <inzi1985> hi..
[10:27] <inzi1985> i need some help..
[10:27] <przem__> BB83: Yes I have, all
[10:27] <Savior> hi! is there someone here who is familiar with video drivers and xine? I do not mean ati, nvidia, etc., but xv, xshm, ...
[10:27] <Savior> xine doesn't seem to find them!
[10:28] <inzi1985> does anyone here use satgate internet service on kubuntu
[10:28] <BB83> so normally you have all, and when you open it, there's "all" and "allfiles", they should have no applications associated
[10:29] <przem__> BB83: Yes, they don't have any application association
[10:29] <BB83> ok, so it must be another one...
[10:30] <mzolisi> associate with BASH?
[10:30] <BB83> przem_ you have to search a bit in these filetypes, maybe remember the last you changed...
[10:30] <mzolisi> Or try 'Run in Terminal'?
[10:31] <mzolisi> IF ALL ELSE FAILS: 'locate konquerorrc'  Remove that file
[10:31] <mzolisi> Start Konqueror again and you'll default to original settings
[10:31] <BB83> mzolisi, the allfiles wildcard should be associated to nothing, so when you open an unknown file type it will ask you wich application you want
[10:32] <BB83> (I think)
[10:32] <przem__> I installed vlc, yesterday and associated flv with that application
[10:32] <BB83> ok
[10:32] <przem__> maybe this is the problem?
[10:32] <inzi1985> has anyone configured skystar2 on ubuntu
[10:32] <mzolisi> IT IS
[10:32] <BB83> przem_ ok then go to the flv, and verify the wildcard
[10:33] <mzolisi> przem: konqueror is now associated with octet-stream (a video media related format)
[10:33] <mzolisi> so that makes sense
[10:33] <BB83> przem_ it's in the right pane (general tab) that you must specify the file names (*.flv) not, in the list
[10:34] <przem__> so I have to remove association with vlc right?
[10:35] <DR_wolf> which is the best video player for Kubuntu
[10:36] <BB83> yes
[10:36] <przem__> ok
[10:36] <BB83> przem: yes, but only for the filetype that has the wrong wildcard
[10:36] <BB83> if the wildcard in the general tab is "*.flv" and no other, then this is not your problem
[10:37] <przem__> I've got two wild cards *.flv and *.FLV
[10:37] <przem__> and type application x-kdeuser2
[10:38] <przem__> but I removed vlc
[10:41] <przem__> Do I have to restart KDE to see chcnges?
[10:41] <przem__> changes
[10:41] <BB83> przem_ I don't think so for filetypes
[10:43] <BB83> przem_ what was your message again ? About "octet-stream" ?
[10:43] <przem__> yes: cannot find mime type application/octet-stream
[10:44] <BB83> If this is the case, try to go into the file associations menu, then "application" + "octet-stream", then in the right panel where you choose the application, you should have only konqueror
[10:46] <poison--> morning
[10:46] <jealma> hi
[10:46] <poison--> :D
[10:47] <jealma> I run kubuntu 7.10 and I'd like to try out KDE4 RC1
[10:47] <przem__> I'm afraid I've got no octet-stream type in the known file types tree
[10:47] <jealma> after installing kdebase-dev-kde4 and kdebase-workspace-dev and kdebase-runtime, how should I proceed ?
[10:48] <Tm_T> dius: root?
[10:50] <dius> hy guys
[10:51] <dius> how can i tgransfer the settings of konversation
[10:51] <ScorpKing> when i run sudo apt-get upgrade on feisty i get this - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45345/ - how can i fix it?
[10:51] <dius> from normal user
[10:51] <dius> to super user.....?
[10:52] <ScorpKing> dius: the settings are kept in .kde/share/apps/konversation/
[10:52] <ScorpKing> as far as i know
[10:53] <dius> ando so....
[10:53] <dius> ops
[10:53] <dius> and so...
[10:53] <dius> ther'snt a settings for normal user...
[10:53] <dius> and another one for root?
[10:53] <dius> is the same?
[10:54] <Tm_T> root is root
[10:54] <dius> or they are totally different?
[10:54] <dius> sure...
[10:54] <BB83> przem__: solved ?
[10:54] <ScorpKing> copy that directory to the one for the other user. /root/.kde/share/apps/konversation/ for the root user
[10:54] <Tm_T> also I think I should note that you shouldn't run anything root unless really really needed
[10:54] <dius> Tim_t
[10:54] <dius> ops
[10:54] <dius> Tm_T:
[10:55] <dius> i need to download something
[10:55]  * ScorpKing agrees with Tm_T
[10:55] <dius> with  konversation
[10:55] <dius> but if in normal mode
[10:55] <dius> it doesn't open sda2 partition
[10:55] <dius> if in root
[10:55] <dius> like now i tried
[10:55] <dius> yes
[10:55] <ScorpKing> dius: fix the permissions on the sda2 partition
[10:55] <dius> help me
[10:55] <dius> if u can
[10:56] <ScorpKing> sure
[10:56] <dius> step by step....
[10:56] <ScorpKing> run kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[10:56] <dius> i opened mass astirage
[10:56] <dius> ah...
[10:56] <dius> wait
[10:57] <ScorpKing> !paste | dius: paste the file here and give us the link
[10:57] <BB83> przem__ ?
[10:57] <dius> sure
[10:57] <ubotu> dius: paste the file here and give us the link: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:57] <dius> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45346/
[11:00] <BB83> Is there an apt command to see which packages where specified which version to install
[11:00] <ScorpKing> make the sda2 entry look like this - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45347/
[11:00] <dius> i 've to unomunt the partition?
[11:01] <ScorpKing> you can
[11:01] <dius> i can do all...
[11:01] <dius> while partition is mounted
[11:01] <dius> ?
[11:01] <dius> i do a back before....
[11:02] <dius> ?
[11:02] <ScorpKing> yes.
[11:02] <ScorpKing> when you saved the file run sudo umount /dev/sda2
[11:02] <dius> i prefer su
[11:02] <dius> eheheh
[11:02] <BB83> Does someone know a command to list packages that where installed with another version as the default one ?
[11:03] <ScorpKing> BB83: not me :(
[11:04] <dius> umount ....
[11:04] <dius> and then
[11:04] <dius> mount?
[11:04] <ScorpKing> BB83: ask in #ubuntu and ##linux as well
[11:04] <ScorpKing> as normal user
[11:04] <ScorpKing> mount /dev/sda2
[11:05] <ScorpKing> the users option enable normal users to mount it but you can take it out coz it will be mounted at boot.
[11:05] <ScorpKing> sorry about that one. ;)
[11:05] <dius> waz?
[11:05] <dius> i have to do this
[11:05] <dius> from normal user...
[11:05] <dius> or root?
[11:05] <ScorpKing> any
[11:06] <dius> is the same?
[11:06] <ScorpKing> no but it will work
[11:06] <blendtux> i was wondering what kind of gtk theme is used on the new gimp screenshots on the gimp website
[11:06] <Gedwey> !php
[11:06] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:07] <dius> well..
[11:07] <dius> done
[11:07] <ScorpKing> is it working now?
[11:07] <dius> i have to start konversation to normal one?
[11:07] <ScorpKing> wait
[11:07] <dius> so i can tell u...
[11:07] <dius> yeap
[11:07] <dius> how can i see if work or not?
[11:07] <Gedwey> What program is best to open php.image.file?
[11:07] <ScorpKing> run ls -l /media/sda2/ and see the permissions
[11:07] <Gedwey> or photo
[11:08] <ScorpKing> Gedwey: in konsole run file <filename> to see what file that is. never seen a php image file
[11:08] <dius> ehmm
[11:08] <dius> i doesn't understand
[11:08] <dius> eheheheh
[11:09] <dius> can i paste on paste bin?
[11:09] <ScorpKing> paste one line here
[11:09] <dius> it's too much long...
[11:09] <ScorpKing> ah. pastebin then
[11:09] <dius> link?
[11:10] <ScorpKing> !permissions | dius: look at this sometime -
[11:10] <ubotu> dius: look at this sometime -: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[11:10] <ScorpKing> dius: please. lol
[11:10] <dius> thanx....
[11:10] <dius> eheheh
[11:10] <ScorpKing> !paste > dius
[11:11] <dius> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45349/
[11:12] <ScorpKing> ah.
[11:12] <ScorpKing> run sudo chown 1000:1000 -R /media/sda2/
[11:12] <dius> waz wrong?
[11:12] <Gedwey> ehh.. the file is a php script.. but its a photo
[11:13] <BB83> non duality ?
[11:13] <ScorpKing> dius: root owns the files thats why you can't read them.
[11:13] <BB83> this file isn't good or bad just bexause it doesn't open
[11:13] <ScorpKing> weird..
[11:13] <dius> it's working
[11:13] <BB83> Gedwey, you mean it has php extension but is a photo ?
[11:14] <ScorpKing> dius: run kdesu kate /etc/fstab again
[11:14] <dius> but he tells me
[11:14] <dius> function not permitted....
[11:14] <ScorpKing> hmm. right, it's vfat
[11:15] <dius> ok...
[11:15] <dius> i opened...
[11:15] <dius> i have to paste?
[11:15] <ScorpKing> dius: remove the users, option
[11:15] <ScorpKing> no paste
[11:16] <dius> eheheh
[11:16] <ScorpKing> no need for the users option there
[11:16] <dius> scorpion...
[11:16] <dius> tell me which is?
[11:16] <ScorpKing> ok one sec
[11:16] <Gedwey> yes.. its opening at gimp..
[11:17] <Gedwey> so no problem
[11:17] <Gedwey> :)
[11:17] <ScorpKing> dius: in this line - /media/sda2     vfat    users,defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=1000,uid=1000
[11:17] <ScorpKing> dius: remove users,
[11:17] <dius> ah
[11:17] <dius> eheheh
[11:17] <dius> okiz
[11:18] <ScorpKing> !vfat | dius
[11:18] <ubotu> dius: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[11:18] <ScorpKing> look at that sometime
[11:18] <dius> but there'snt
[11:18] <dius> thersn't
[11:18] <ScorpKing> pastebin the file
[11:18] <dius> i'm italian sorry....
[11:18] <ScorpKing> np
[11:20] <dius> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45352/
[11:20] <ScorpKing> hehe. you never saved the file. :P
[11:20] <dius> what...?
[11:21] <dius> sh..!!!
[11:21] <dius> eheheh
[11:21] <ScorpKing> lol. one sec.
[11:21] <dius> but i clicked on save button...
[11:21] <dius> -.-
[11:21] <dius> okiz
[11:22] <ScorpKing> make the /dev/sda2 line look like this - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45353/
[11:22] <ScorpKing> and plz save :P
[11:23] <dius> i overwrited...
[11:23] <dius> -.-
[11:23] <dius> try now?
[11:24] <ScorpKing> yes. unmount and remount as root
[11:24] <dius> done
[11:25] <ScorpKing> run ls -l /media/sda2/ again and see the permissions
[11:25] <dius> yeap
[11:25] <dius> my name
[11:25] <dius> is instead of root
[11:25] <ScorpKing> nice
[11:25] <dius> eheheheh
[11:26] <dius> Scorpion
[11:26] <dius> i try with konversation
[11:26] <dius> i normal one?
[11:26] <ScorpKing> the options uid=1000,gid=1000 made it your name. ;)
[11:26] <dius> instead of root
[11:26] <dius> thanx
[11:26] <dius> i've to study the permission
[11:26] <ScorpKing> you have to mount as root.
[11:26] <ScorpKing> you're welcome :D
[11:26] <dius> but now...
[11:26] <dius> it mounts
[11:27] <ScorpKing> have work to to. will be back in a sec.
[11:27] <dius> by itself
[11:27] <dius> ?
[11:29] <ScorpKing> yes
[11:30] <ScorpKing> hey dius come back! lol
[11:30] <ScorpKing> sda1 has the same problem. hehe
[11:31] <ScorpKing> i have a problem - ubprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:31] <ScorpKing> here is the full error - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45345/
[11:32] <niko_> ScorpKing:
[11:33] <niko_> wprks perferctly
[11:33] <niko_> THNX!!!
[11:33] <niko_> i love this community!!!
[11:33] <ScorpKing> you're welcome
[11:33] <niko_> eheheh
[11:33] <ScorpKing> stay here
[11:33] <niko_> yeap for sure....
[11:33] <niko_> even if i'm italian
[11:34] <niko_> i know some words in english
[11:34] <plontaj> hello :D
[11:34] <niko_> so i can ask for help   ;-)))
[11:34] <loguser1> can i upgrade my kubuntu 7.04 to 7.10 by live cd?
[11:34] <tung> Hi
[11:34] <plontaj> yes U can
[11:35] <loguser1> plontaj:  me?
[11:35] <plontaj> but I prefer upgrade with console
[11:35] <WaltzingAlong> loguser1: by dvd yes or by alternate cd, not by desktop/live cd
[11:35] <plontaj> wrtie in console
[11:35] <ScorpKing> niko_: sda1 have the same problem
[11:35] <WaltzingAlong> plontaj: a non recommended way is to change feisty to gutsy in your sources.list then update and dist-upgrade with aptitude
[11:35] <loguser1> WaltzingAlong:  ok.    is the dvd a live dvd?
[11:35] <tung> I have a problem with usplash
[11:35] <plontaj> sudo apt-get upgrade :D
[11:35] <ScorpKing> tung: ask away.. :P
[11:36] <tung> it doesn't load after I choose kubuntu in grub
[11:36] <loguser1> plontaj:  how to do that by adept manager
[11:36] <ScorpKing> tung: check the resolution in /etc/usplash.conf
[11:36] <ScorpKing> !usplash
[11:36] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[11:36] <WaltzingAlong> loguser1: ye
[11:37] <loguser1> where can i get details. more......
[11:37] <tung> it's okay 1024:768
[11:37] <WaltzingAlong> loguser1: yes; the dvd can be used live or installed from terminal ... or used as a source for the a dist-upgrade
[11:37] <ScorpKing> tung: i saw the same problem in the forums. look on google, they have a solution there
[11:38] <plontaj> Whobody know how I can install macromedia splash in amd64?
[11:38] <tung> ScorpKing: can you send me the address
[11:38] <loguser1> and whats the difference in live cd and unlive cd
[11:39] <WaltzingAlong> plontaj: flash or shockwave? shockwave has to be used through firefox in wine
[11:39] <WaltzingAlong> !flash | plontaj
[11:39] <ubotu> plontaj: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:40] <WaltzingAlong> !gnash | plontaj
[11:40] <ubotu> plontaj: An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[11:40] <plontaj> thank's U
[11:41] <ScorpKing> tung: read through that - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=584205&page=2
[11:41] <WaltzingAlong> plontaj: for flash on 64bit one way is through a 32bit chroot; another is the nspluginwrapper https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[11:41]  * ScorpKing goes away for a few minutes.. bbl
[11:41] <tung> thanks
[11:43] <seezer> has anyone successfully installed the kde4 rc1 packages incl. kdm-kde4?
[11:44] <WaltzingAlong> seezer: where are you getting stuck?
[11:45] <seezer> WaltzingAlong: dpkg reports "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[11:45] <seezer> but i can't find the reason in /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.postinst
[11:46] <WaltzingAlong> seezer: had you removed kdelibs5
[11:46] <seezer> yes, removed everything
[11:46] <loguser1> what will sudo apt-get upgrade do ?
[11:46] <seezer> but i could try that again. perhaps i missed something..
[11:46] <tung> how can I upgrade to KDE 4RC
[11:46] <seezer> loguser1: talking to me?
[11:47] <ScorpKing> seezer: looks like i have the same problem - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45345/
[11:47] <WaltzingAlong> tung: www.kubuntu.org
[11:47] <ScorpKing> but with an update
[11:47] <WaltzingAlong> loguser1: man apt-get
[11:47] <sahin_w> tung: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[11:47] <loguser1> plontaj:  apt-get upgrade tell you download 1 37 mb . but when i full upgrade iin adept manager . it says to download 250mb. why ?
[11:47] <loguser1> seezer talking to al
[11:48] <seezer> ScorpKing: related - but not exactly the same. i get no error beside "postinst script failed."
[11:48] <ScorpKing> hmm..
[11:48] <seezer> WaltzingAlong: did it work for you?
[11:49] <WaltzingAlong> seezer: doing so now
[11:49] <plontaj> loguser1: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:49] <seezer> ok. tell me when you hit the kdm-kde4 package ;)
[11:49] <WaltzingAlong> seezer: ok ;D
[11:49] <plontaj> maybe this way
[11:51] <plontaj> the flash on youtube is running but not is downloading :/
[11:51] <plontaj> wtf?
[11:51] <Riddell> seezer: kdm-kde4 postinst seems to break a lot, just rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.postinst; apt-get -f install
[11:52] <loguser1> k
[11:52] <seezer> Riddell: hmkay. that did work. thanks ;)
[11:54] <WaltzingAlong> Riddell: seezer, yeah broke here too
[11:55] <seezer> gonna try the switch now
[11:55] <WaltzingAlong> and as suggested sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.postinst; sudo aptitude -f install  took care of it
[11:56] <seezer> re
[11:57] <ScorpKing> !aptfix
[11:57] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[12:10] <Gedwey> What java is the best install?
[12:10] <bytems> depends on the java applications you're running
[12:10] <Gedwey> Online games
[12:11] <rasmus> i've just formated everything and reinstalled gutsy. How do i replace the new home-folder with my old packup?
[12:11] <Gedwey> backup??
[12:11] <bytems> hmmm then any installation should be fine for you
[12:11] <Gedwey> ohh :s
[12:12] <BB83> Does someone have an idea ? I'm running gutsy with compiz, when I go into system params->desktop, X11 restarts, if I access this config window from a right click on a panel it works but display no options for a second panel even if I have two
[12:12] <rasmus> well, i have ah back up of my old home-folder and just wan't to replace the new one with this
[12:12] <bytems> classpath and any free implementation make sense when you've got some heavy load programm running like chatserver/p2p software etc..
[12:14] <Gedwey> what about using the backup service and use that program to use what you backed up?
[12:15] <rasmus> well, i just copied the home folder to my external harddrive
[12:16] <rasmus> haven't used any programs, maybe not so bright
[12:16] <Gedwey> I dont know if this work but try to copy it back on the root folder then.. but it can crash the computer:S
[12:17] <Gedwey> if you had it would have backed up everything :P and just a button click when you had the reinstall :P
[12:17] <Gedwey> I dont know if this work but try to copy it back on the root folder then.. but it can crash the computer:S
[12:18] <rasmus> no problem with a crash
[12:18] <Gedwey> this should only add the rest that arent there
[12:18] <rasmus> yes, well, i tried something like it, but i realize that maybe i made a misstake, i'll try again
[12:18] <Gedwey> make sure to COPY only
[12:18] <Gedwey> choose overwrite
[12:25] <rasmus> thanx, i'll restart and se what will happen
[12:30] <Stilo> hi!
[12:30] <pag> hey Stilo :)
[12:31] <Stilo> i dont want superkaramba start when i log in to a session. There is no link in the folder Autostart. How can i change this
[12:31] <tomaz> just close superkaramba
[12:32] <tomaz> and after you log out, things will be saved without superkaramba opened
[12:33] <Stilo> but so i have to do this all time when i shut down my pc. And thats annoying
[12:34]  * timri wonders why libxine in gutsy backports depends on a lot of gnome stuff
[12:35] <timri> Stilo: Perhaps this will help: Go into the session manager, add superkaramba in the "Applications to be excluded from sessions"
[12:36] <Stilo> trimri: i tried it but it doesnt work. I dont know why..
[12:36] <zorg_the_false> q. what is the name of the voice over IP alternative to skype. something in opensource
[12:36] <zorg_the_false> i know it exists, i just dont remember the name :)
[12:38] <timri> Stilo: Ah, sorry to hear that. In that case I can't help you I'am afraid (I know next to nothing about superkaramba)
[12:38] <zorg_the_false> !skype
[12:38] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:39] <Stilo> ok..np. i have to go! cya
[12:40] <timri> zorg_the_false: Wengophone, ekiga, and, to a lesser degree kopete
[12:40] <zorg_the_false> timri: ok thanks. kopete support voip now ? which protocol ?
[12:41] <timri> zorg_the_false: Through wengo IIRC (that's SIP btw)
[12:41] <timri> Abbrev man strikes again!
[12:41] <zorg_the_false> timri: ok nice :)
[12:41] <Tm_T> timri: erm?
[12:42] <Gedwey> how the hell do i uninstall wine?
[12:42] <Tm_T> zorg_the_false: no, there's no direct support to any VOIP in Kopete
[12:42] <timri> Tm_T: Abbreviation as in IIRC, SIP and btw :)
[12:42] <Tm_T> I know
[12:42] <zorg_the_false> Tm_T: i notice the "direct" in your sentence. does this mean that "kopete->wengo" is working or not ?
[12:43] <timri> Tm_T: Hence my "to a lesser degree". I have seen someone kludge it with kcall and dcop though
[12:43] <zorg_the_false> well i dont think kopete should do voip :)
[12:43] <Tm_T> zorg_the_false: though it can use Skype with Skype plugin AND there's buggy broken Jabber Jingle support "hidden"
[12:43] <zorg_the_false> so i think it is good to rely on other tool :)
[12:43] <Tm_T> timri: doable yes
[12:44] <zorg_the_false> Tm_T: ok
[12:44]  * zorg_the_false is way too much duplication in opensource :)
[12:44] <Tm_T> well Skype for instance isn
[12:44] <Tm_T> 't opensource :)
[12:45] <timri> Gedwey: Eh, sudo aptitude purge wine ?
[12:46] <erik__> How do i change the keyboard layout _
[12:47] <erik__> after i installed some stuff my keymap has change to us i think and i need norwegian
[12:48] <Gedwey> ty timri
[12:48] <Gedwey> hmm
[12:49] <erik__> nvm found it out
[12:49] <loguser1> how can i check my kernel versioon by terminal?
[12:49] <erik__> loguser1:  uname -a
[12:50] <loguser1> how to create a desktop shortcut to a drive
[12:50] <loguser1>  or partittion
[12:51] <erik__> just right click on your desktop
[12:52] <loguser1> that gives shortcut for whole drive. not a single partition
[12:52] <erik__> then you have to create a shortcut to a directory not a whole drive
[12:53] <loguser1> how exactly
[12:54] <erik__> kinda despends where that partition is mounted
[12:56] <zorg_the_false> wengophone really try to make a good software... this is nice
[12:57] <desio> hello
[12:57] <loguser1> n           /media/sda6Work
[13:01] <erik__> from terminal cd to your Desktop then write "ln -s /media/sda6Work NameOnShotcut"
[13:06] <patricio> hmpf, I delete 20 contacts in my kadressbook(kontacts) but they reappear on every open! wth?
[13:07] <jaguilera> hi all
[13:08] <jaguilera> i'm using feisty, and since recently adept updater notifies me of a new distribution upgrade availbable (gutsy oc), but I'm not sure if there are any known issues with that upgrade ... hints?
[13:09] <Tm_T> jaguilera: known
[13:09] <Lynoure> jaguilera: if you are a laptop user and need hibernation, check launchpad first to see if it is likely to be broken for you.
[13:10] <timri> Lynoure: ??
[13:10] <Lynoure> timri: please rephrase
[13:10] <jaguilera> it's a desktop, and hibernation never worked with him, so I just don't use it ;)
[13:11] <Tm_T> jaguilera: if it's not "production system" then give it a try :-P
[13:11] <Lynoure> jaguilera: then there is a known issues page somewhere, too, I cannot remember the url, though
[13:11] <timri> Lynoure: I think jaguilera's problem has little to do with hibernation. He/she is  experiencing a known bug (can't recall the #)
[13:11] <Tm_T> timri: nah
[13:11] <Lynoure> timri: I only saw those comments he wrote after just joining a channel
[13:11] <jaguilera> i'm not experiencing any bug yet, I just want to be sure of any known one before hand
[13:12] <timri> jalbert: , Tm: Ah, ok. I need some coffee :)
[13:12] <Lynoure> timri: I wish someone had warned me about the hibernation before I upgraded. Downgrading is too much hassle, so I have not done it yet
[13:12] <jaguilera> i guess it can't go tooo wrong so I'll just go on, and cross mu fingers
[13:12] <jaguilera> (famous last phrase)
[13:12] <timri> Lynoure: I feel your pain. My laptop is completely disfunctional in the suspend/resume/hibernate/thaw department :(
[13:13] <jaguilera> thx ppl
[13:13] <ubuntu> For Gutsy, can someone advise which desktop is advisable for a new be, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[13:13]  * timri ducks
[13:14] <Tm_T> ubuntu: both have pros and cons
[13:14] <Tm_T> ubuntu: I'd say: try them both
[13:14] <ubuntu> Which one I install
[13:14] <Tm_T> Kubuntu ofcourse ;)
[13:14] <timri> ubuntu: Try the two livecd's
[13:14] <Tm_T> timri: or install both etc
[13:15] <ubuntu> Yes I tried, right now I want features of both, but what should be my base
[13:15] <timri> Tm_T: I wouldn't. I have seen too many problems from people installing kubuntu_desktop over an ubuntu install
[13:16] <Tm_T> ubuntu: Kubuntu if you ask from me
[13:16] <Tm_T> timri: I have had all 4 -desktops installed
[13:16] <timri> ubuntu: Since this is a kubuntu support channel, we are all more or less partial to kubuntu :)
[13:16] <Tm_T> actually, still is
[13:16] <timri> Tm_T: You are not an average user :)
[13:17] <ubuntu> Its okay I too liked Kubuntu, and want to make it default with an additional desktop of ubuntu
[13:17] <Tm_T> ubuntu: please do then, if any problems, we are here
[13:17] <ubuntu> Okay thanks see you after half an hour!
[13:18]  * Tm_T hides
[13:19]  * timri wonders why libxine in gutsy backports depends on a lot of gnome stuff
[13:28] <Arelis> Hi all. I've recently installed the core of KDE and installed some applications for various tasks, but i might've missed some. What are some good applications for tasks i might be doing on the computer?
[13:32] <timri> Arelis: Given your vague description it is difficult for us to give you pointers. You might try installing kubuntu-desktop and get a feel for the various applications. That way you can decide what you like/need.
[13:34] <Arelis> no, i really don't want that.  But i'll list my tasks, then: I need my computer for schoolwork, searching guitar tabs, listening to music, taking notes, downloading (from bittorrent AND http), managing my files, watching movies and video's, Animation (i'm an animator by hobby), drawing, painting, gaming, managing my photo's, managing my website... and i think more, but i can't think of more right now
[13:34] <Arelis> timri: ping
[13:35] <fregl> are there debug packages for adept available?
[13:35] <Lynoure> Arelis: amarok, ktorrent, basket, kate, konqueror, dolphin, kaffeine, gimp, kflickr, digikam
[13:39] <Lynoure> Arelis: I don't know anything for animation apart from Blender
[13:39] <timri> Arelis: An alternative to gimp: krita
[13:39] <Arelis> Lynoure: 2d animation, i meant. Somewhat like macromedia flash
[13:39] <Lynoure> Arelis: ok, I don't know anything for 2d animation, unless you'd mean animated gifs...
[13:39] <Lynoure> Which you probably don't
[13:40] <Arelis> Lynoure: nope, i don't.
[13:40] <livingdaylight> anyone know about Avant Window Manager?
[13:41] <livingdaylight> what the pre-requisites are? i see nothing related to that on the Awn website
[13:42] <timri> Arelis: For animation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synfig
[13:42] <livingdaylight> anyone here?
[13:42] <timri> Arelis: Disclaimer: I have NO experience with the application, nor any in the animation field :)
[13:42] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: last I checked Avant, their pages said it's probably never doing to become usable, so not much I can say...
[13:43] <DaSkreech> !find avant
[13:43] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: if it is packaged correctly, it should take care of it's own dependencies
[13:44] <ubotu> File avant found in wims-modules
[13:44] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: my concern is that i don't have a 3-D enabled Desktop
[13:45] <livingdaylight> anyone know whether (y)AWN works with an old or non-3-D enabled Desktop?
[13:46] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: why not just try?
[13:48] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: coz i wouldn't wanna break my system...
[13:48] <livingdaylight> or slow it down
[13:49] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: you can probably uninstall from cli if you need to.
[13:50] <Arelis> timri: wow synfig looks awesome, if not better than flash
[13:51] <timri> :)
[13:51] <Arelis> timri: is it better than flash?
[13:52] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: its not so straightforward. its not in repos and so needs more investment setting it up; hence i just wondered if someone knew
[13:52] <timri> Arelis: As I said: I have no experience with it whatsoever. In fact, I just googled for "kde vector animation". Never heard of it before ;)
[13:52] <Arelis> timri: well, look at the demo video's
[13:52] <timri> Arelis: Later perhaps, got to go now.
[13:52]  * timri waves. Bye all
[13:52] <bryan> libdvdcss where can i get it?
[13:52] <Lynoure> livingdaylight: does not seem to. you could try to contact the devs of avant?
[13:53] <Jucato> !libdvdcss | bryan
[13:53] <ubotu> bryan: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[13:53] <bryan> sweet
[13:53] <livingdaylight> Lynoure: yesh
[13:54] <bryan> so it's libdvdread?
[14:11] <snake> bonjour tout le monde!
[14:15] <loguser1> where can i find drivers and softwares for alpha tv tuner ?
[14:17] <bryan_> how can i set up my trackpad?
[14:17] <DaSkreech> !trackpad
[14:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trackpad - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:17] <DaSkreech> Dang
[14:17] <DaSkreech>  :)
[14:18] <ubuntu_> русский
[14:18] <ubuntu_> русский
[14:18] <DaSkreech> !ru
[14:18] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[14:25] <patricio> how to install freetype/truetype fonts?(kubuntu gutsy gibbon)
[14:25] <loguser1> where can i find drivers and softwares for alpha tv tuner ?
[14:26] <DaSkreech> !fonts
[14:26] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[14:27] <patricio> thx
[14:27] <stdin> !tv | loguser1
[14:27] <ubotu> loguser1: http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[14:39] <loguser1> iam unable to use my tv card. (alpha tv tuner)
[14:40] <loguser1> its pci
[14:43] <loguser1> helo..........
[14:44] <[ifr0g]> how do i watch avi in tty mode ?
[14:45] <loguser1> i never.
[14:46] <loguser1> just installed linux
[14:48] <waylandbill> loguser1: welcome to the growing community. :)
[14:49] <waylandbill> stdin sent you a link to look at.
[14:49] <loguser1> yes
[14:49] <loguser1> just asking. will i need any driver besides the tv app.
[14:49] <loguser1> if yes. which one
[14:50] <loguser1> waylandbill:  thx
[14:50] <loguser1> :)
[14:51] <nchung> !compiz
[14:51] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[14:52] <loguser1> is there a place where i can find most famous , "catagorised" apps for linux.
[14:54] <[ifr0g]> anyone ?
[14:56] <loguser1> can one recommend a very good , dictionary. (better if multimedia) for my pc?
[14:56] <[ifr0g]> i belive by using some video buffer, any idea ?
[14:56] <oupa> !kde4
[14:56] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[14:57] <stdin> needs updating ^
[14:57]  * stdin prods Jucato
[14:57] <Jucato> let me actually finish it?
[14:58] <stdin> heh
[14:58] <Jucato> !kde4
[14:58] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[14:59] <stdin> much better
[14:59] <Jucato> at your service
[14:59]  * Jucato segfaults
[15:02] <surgy> hello i need help getting my gamepad mapped to my keyboard, i tryed several peices of sofware but for some reason or another i cant seam to get these to work, anyone around that might give me a hand?
[15:09] <loguser1> iam in the middle of apt-get download.       can i stop it and download an other app and then again resume the previous downloadings ?
[15:11] <surgy> no
[15:12] <onishidato> hello
[15:12] <onishidato> is some one can help me with Kubuntu
[15:13] <onishidato> i don't know what to do
[15:13] <B4S3M> where can i get the Xglpackage,deb ?
[15:13] <surgy> !info Xglpackage.deb
[15:13] <ubotu> Package xglpackage.deb does not exist in gutsy
[15:14] <surgy> !ask || onishidato
[15:14] <ubotu> | onishidato: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[15:14] <stdin> loguser1: you can as long as it hasn't started installing
[15:14] <B4S3M> !info Verilogger
[15:14] <ubotu> Package verilogger does not exist in gutsy
[15:14] <onishidato> how can i update kubuntu
[15:14] <stdin> B4S3M: xserver-xgl is xgl
[15:14] <B4S3M> !info Xgl
[15:14] <ubotu> Package xgl does not exist in gutsy
[15:14] <stdin> onishidato: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[15:15] <surgy> stdin: can you help me  with a gamepad problem please?
[15:16] <stdin> surgy: I've never tried to use a gamepad, so I don't know
[15:16] <korex> зкеукевапвап
[15:16] <stdin> !ru | korex
[15:16] <ubotu> korex: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[15:16] <surgy> ok
[15:16] <WaltzingAlong> Logi: yes
[15:16] <B4S3M> how can i know my linux version ?
[15:16] <stdin> !version
[15:16] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[15:16] <WaltzingAlong> B4S3M: uname -a
[15:17] <DR_wolf> how to install PCtel HSP56 micomodem
[15:17] <B4S3M> ok any ideas where i can find the Xgl
[15:17] <WaltzingAlong> !info xserver-xgl | B4S3M
[15:17] <ubotu> b4s3m: xserver-xgl: GL-based X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.99.1~git20070727-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 1696 kB, installed size 4404 kB
[15:18] <onishidato> i can't update my kubuntu
[15:18] <stdin> B4S3M: i already told you
[15:18] <WaltzingAlong> onishidato: explain
[15:19] <onishidato> when i try to set the upates in the Adept, they don't give me the options Recommended updates and pre released updates
[15:20] <stdin> in the "Updates" tab
[15:20] <onishidato> yes
[15:20] <stdin> what version of kubuntu do you have?
[15:20] <apparle> this site says https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/PcTel I will have to change the kernel. I have gutsy. Do I need to change the kernel
[15:22] <stdin> apparle: it needs a really old kernel version (2.6.8.1)
[15:22] <loguser1> loguser1@loguser1-pc1dtop1:~$ sudo apt-get -f install
[15:22] <loguser1> Password:
[15:22] <loguser1> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:22] <loguser1> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:22] <loguser1> loguser1@loguser1-pc1dtop1:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:22] <loguser1> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[15:22] <stdin> Gutsy is running 2.6.22
[15:22] <B4S3M> !info WinFOSS
[15:22] <ubotu> Package winfoss does not exist in gutsy
[15:22] <stdin> !paste | loguser1
[15:22] <ubotu> loguser1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:23] <loguser1> k
[15:23] <stdin> loguser1: close adept if you have it open
[15:23] <WaltzingAlong> !aptfix | loguser1; apt-get, dpkg, aptitude, adept, synaptic, and so on ... only one can have exclusive access to the dpkg db
[15:23] <ubotu> loguser1; apt-get, dpkg, aptitude, adept, synaptic, and so on ... only one can have exclusive access to the dpkg db: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:23] <stdin> !aptfix | loguser1, if adept isn't open try this
[15:23] <ubotu> loguser1, if adept isn't open try this: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:23] <apparle> stdin: do I need to change my kernel to install PCTel HSP56 mode
[15:23] <stdin> apparle: yes
[15:23] <WaltzingAlong> apparle: it seems so
[15:24] <apparle> what if I just install the driver tar file
[15:24] <loguser1> k
[15:24] <onishidato> my versoin is 7.10 gusty
[15:24] <onishidato> how can i fix it now
[15:24] <stdin> onishidato: then you are already up to date
[15:24] <WaltzingAlong> onishidato: 7.10 gutsy gibbon is the most recent k/x/ubuntu
[15:25] <apparle> Also I tried installing kubuntu 7
[15:25] <WaltzingAlong> onishidato: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade           would get updates and upgrades to packages presently installed but you have kubuntu 7.10 already
[15:25] <apparle> .10 and crashed at 94% thrice
[15:26] <apparle> Also I tried installing kubuntu 7.10 and crashed at 94% thrice. Anybody here gone through GRUB Error 15
[15:26] <onishidato> how can i use Amarok to play Mp3?
[15:27] <stdin> onishidato: install the package called "kubuntu-restricted-extras" from adept
[15:27] <stdin> then restart amarok
[15:27] <WaltzingAlong> stdin: on a roll ;D
[15:27] <onishidato> i search but i don't have it
[15:28] <stdin> if you have gutsy you do
[15:28] <stdin> make sure all the boxes in the "Manage Repositories" window are checked
[15:28] <WaltzingAlong> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras | onishidato
[15:28] <ubotu> onishidato: kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[15:28] <stdin> then click "Fetch Updates"
[15:29] <BluesKaj> Howdy all !
[15:29] <BluesKaj> coffee!
[15:29] <onishidato> oh y got
[15:29] <onishidato> i still can't find it
[15:30] <onishidato> my got
[15:30] <onishidato> my god
[15:30] <B4S3M> ok silly question .... i can i install the xgl package after downloading it :D ?
[15:30] <stdin> B4S3M: you open adept and install xserver-xgl, that's it
[15:30] <apparle> somebody please tell me what to do about GRUB error 15 ...SOS .....I canot boot my PC
[15:30] <Eyeless> only one app at the time can use my soundcard which is pretty annoying, anyone have any pointers on what i should do (card is a Realtek ALC888)?
[15:31] <stdin> onishidato: try closing adept, open konsole and type in "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[15:31] <[ifr0g]> how do i watch avi in tty mode ?
[15:31] <WaltzingAlong> apparle: ask all knowing google?
[15:31] <WaltzingAlong> apparle: try #grub ?
[15:32] <stdin> apparle: you could just try reinstalling grub too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[15:32] <onishidato> onishidato@Annie:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:32] <onishidato> Reading package lists... Done
[15:32] <onishidato> Building dependency tree
[15:32] <onishidato> Reading state information... Done
[15:32] <onishidato> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:32] <WaltzingAlong> !sound | Eyeless: get alsa working if it is not
[15:32] <ubotu> Eyeless: get alsa working if it is not: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[15:32] <B4S3M> and how can i have the 3D Desktop thing ?
[15:32] <onishidato> that is what i got
[15:32] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/  | B4S3M
[15:33] <stdin> !compiz | B4S3M
[15:33] <ubotu> B4S3M: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:33] <apparle> stdin: tried it and failed , Also tried Super Grub Disk
[15:33] <WaltzingAlong> onishidato: you would have to 1) have gutsy and 2) enable multiverse
[15:34] <andycr> Hi, I'm trying to use Compiz Fusion with KDE, but how do I get KWin to work with Compiz?
[15:34] <onishidato> how can i enable multiverse?
[15:34] <WaltzingAlong> !multiverse | onishidato
[15:34] <ubotu> onishidato: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[15:35] <WaltzingAlong> onishidato: adept manager / adept menu / manage repositories / then enable them there
[15:35] <Eyeless> WaltzingAlong: ill have a look ty
[15:35] <stdin> gutsy should have all repositories enabled by default
[15:35] <surgy> ok i need this package, becuase i deb that i want to install relies on it, libqt3c102-mt and i allready have libqt3-mt installed, can anyone help?
[15:35] <stdin> surgy: why do you need to install that ?
[15:35] <surgy> for qjoypad
[15:36] <B4S3M> where can i get a Verilogger for linux .... its a sofware for digital desing .... and i cant run i through wine :S
[15:36] <surgy> stdin: can you help?
[15:36] <Logi> WaltzingAlong: um, what was the question again, I've been doing other (more profitable) things for hours now
[15:37] <Logi> WaltzingAlong: or your nick-completion mis-fired when aiming at loguser1?
[15:37] <xeross> My adept manager wont install packages anymore every time it errors out
[15:37] <xeross> i tried nvidia-glx and firefox
[15:38] <WaltzingAlong> Logi: yes as apt-get or the others (adept or aptitude) is downloading packages, they are saved in /var/cache/apt/archives/partial then moved to /var/cache/apt/archives/ when completed. stopping then starting again the upgrade will not need download what is already in the cache
[15:38] <BluesKaj> xeross, what's the error?
[15:38] <WaltzingAlong> Xeross: or best run sudo aptitude -f install           from konsole to see errors
[15:39] <stdin> surgy: it should work with the Qt version that comes with kubuntu
[15:39] <surgy> stdin: but it doesnt it says it need the before mentioned package
[15:39]  * Logi remembers why he came here this morning (GMT). Does anyone have kde 4.0-RC1 working? Could this person then tell me the result of running "dpkg --search /usr/lib/kde4/lib/libkdeprint.so.5" please?
[15:39] <stdin> surgy: where are you getting the package from?
[15:40] <fregl> is there a way to get usable backtraces from adept?
[15:40] <Logi> WaltzingAlong: that wasn't me. That was this other guy.
[15:40] <surgy> http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/
[15:40] <WaltzingAlong> Logi: alright
[15:40] <Xeross> theres a file in the package thats also on my local disk
[15:40] <Xeross> should i overwrite
[15:41] <stdin> Xeross: kde4?
[15:41] <Xeross> just kde that comes with kubuntu 7.`0
[15:41] <Xeross> 7.10 *
[15:41] <stdin> Xeross: what file/package?
[15:41] <Xeross> nvidia-glx
[15:41] <surgy> stdin: cant help me?
[15:41] <Xeross> it wants to replace
[15:41] <Xeross> # This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
[15:41] <Xeross> # ones.
[15:41] <Xeross> title		Other operating systems:
[15:41] <Xeross> root
[15:42] <Xeross> huh
[15:42] <stdin> !paste | Xeross
[15:42] <ubotu> Xeross: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:42] <Xeross> wants to replace /etc/qt3/qt_plugins_3.3rc
[15:42] <Xeross> should i replace
[15:42] <stdin> surgy: you'll have to download and compile the source, if you replace qt3 then KDE will go
[15:42] <paolo____> is there a channel dedicated to ip-tv ?
[15:43] <Xeross> ok
[15:43] <surgy> but if i compile the source of qjoypad it should work?
[15:43] <Xeross> ill try if firefox install works now
[15:43] <stdin> Xeross: from what package
[15:43] <B4S3M> !info WinFOSS
[15:43] <ubotu> Package winfoss does not exist in gutsy
[15:43] <Xeross> package nvidia-glx
[15:43] <stdin> !msgthebot > B4S3M
[15:44] <stdin> surgy: should do
[15:44] <keeneo> hi
[15:44] <Xeross> i want nvidia drivers cus my second screen now is just flashing weirrd
[15:44] <stdin> Xeross: are you on gutsy?
[15:45] <Xeross> as far as i know im on kubuntu 7.10
[15:45] <WaltzingAlong> stdin: i have seen a few asking to replace this possibly customized file though i know of at least three systems whose users did not change that file
[15:45] <stdin> Xeross: just use the restricted manager
[15:45] <Xeross> ?
[15:46] <Xeross> restricted manager ??
[15:46] <surgy> stdin: i get this error on compile"make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.
[15:46] <stdin> Xeross: System Settings > Advanced > Restricted Drivers
[15:46] <stdin> WaltzingAlong: hmm, I should be ok to overwrite I think
[15:47] <WaltzingAlong> stdin: it has been in my experience
[15:47] <Xeross> ill try
[15:47] <apparle> DaSkreech
[15:47] <Xeross> it has to reboot now
[15:47] <Black_Monkey> hi, I'm installing KDE4 RC1, and it keeps giving errors, saying the packages are broken, etc...
[15:47] <Xeross> brb
[15:47] <apparle> DaSkreech: are you there
[15:47] <stdin> surgy: install qt3-dev-tools
[15:47] <keeneo> have you installed qt3 surgy ?
[15:47] <WaltzingAlong> Black_Monkey: which? the packages are not signed if that is what you mean
[15:47] <BluesKaj> uhoh .ca repos are down
[15:47] <stdin> !brokenkde4 | Black_Monkey
[15:47] <ubotu> Black_Monkey: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[15:48] <SHaklev> Hi guys. I just downloaded the Gutsy Gibbon KDE4 RC1 packages. Awesome stuff! ARe any of the other apps being packaged? Games, Kate, KDevelop, Amarok, KOffice (I know they are on a different release schedule) etc
[15:48] <Black_Monkey> ok, thanks stdin
[15:48] <SHaklev> also anyone know how i can install additional plasma applets?
[15:48] <stdin> SHaklev: they are being packaged as quickly as I can
[15:48] <TheGentleman> what about installing Kubuntu on a HD which is now hosting Win XP with NTFS by resizing the Windows partition?  Couldn't I risk to damage the NTFS partition ?
[15:48] <WaltzingAlong> SHaklev: right mouse click the desktop, add applet or plasmoid, whichever the name
[15:49] <surgy> stdin: ok got the dev tools still giving me qt errors like,  ‘QString’ does not name a type
[15:49] <asfak> i am habituated using ctrl+enter to autocomplete webadress on firefox and ie. How do i do that on konqueror
[15:49] <Black_Monkey> stdin: it's said that some directories weren't removed, as they weren't empty - is this a problem?
[15:49] <Pollywog> I did google but could not find the answer to this... what has replaced inittab?
[15:49] <WaltzingAlong> TheGentleman: of course there would always be some amount of risk but if gparted and its backends start it in my experience i have had no troubles at all resizing partitions
[15:49] <Pollywog> I mean /etc/inittab
[15:50] <WaltzingAlong> !inittab | Pollywog
[15:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inittab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:50] <houshuang> Hi guys. I just downloaded the Gutsy Gibbon KDE4 RC1 packages. Awesome stuff! ARe any of the other apps being packaged? Games, Kate, KDevelop, Amarok, KOffice (I know they are on a different release schedule) etc
[15:50] <houshuang> lso anyone know how i can install additional plasma applets?
[15:50] <Jucato> houshuang: kate would be in the kdesdk module of kde4 (if that's packaged too)
[15:50] <stdin> surgy: try making sure libqt3-headers is installed
[15:50] <stdin> Black_Monkey: shouldn't be a problem
[15:50] <Jucato> houshuang: kdevelop, amarok, and koffice are all released separately/independently of kde schedule
[15:50] <Vermux> is it safe to upgrade to the new distribution version?
[15:50] <WaltzingAlong> houshuang: certainly there must be a #kde channel for exactly that
[15:51] <Jucato> WaltzingAlong: he is asking for packages
[15:51] <WaltzingAlong> Vermux: to 7.10 gutsy?
[15:51] <Pollywog> Vermux: if you mean to Gutsy, I do not recommend it if you use wmware
[15:51] <apparle> stdin: the repairing of GRUB failed again error 15
[15:51] <Pollywog> but virtualbox will work
[15:52] <Downix> has Ubuntu gone 64-bit on SPARC yet?
[15:52] <Downix> never checked
[15:52] <TheGentleman> WaltzingAlong, you mean i can start my kubuntu CD and just select the partition sizes I lake with very little risk?  I'm worried beacuse it's the first time for me with NTFS  (did it more than once with FAT disks)
[15:52] <TheGentleman> like*
[15:52] <Vermux> WaltzingAlong: yes
[15:52] <Pollywog> and if you use a Ralink wifi card, probably best not to upgrade unless you want to tinker
[15:52] <WaltzingAlong> Vermux: but of course!
[15:52] <onishidato> after update and install, my computer is now very slow, do we have someway to boost it up?
[15:52] <Vermux> WaltzingAlong: I have
[15:52] <Vermux> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[15:52] <Vermux> Description:    Ubuntu 7.04
[15:52] <Vermux> Release:        7.04
[15:52] <Vermux> Codename:       feisty
[15:52] <tier> hello, has anyone a sony vaio pcg-6c1m?
[15:53] <WaltzingAlong> TheGentleman: the installer should take care of that but you could also do it the gparted livecd
[15:53] <WaltzingAlong> Vermux: sure follow the upgrade instructions in the topic
[15:53] <TheGentleman> ok thanks WaltzingAlong
[15:53] <Vermux> later on
[15:53] <Pollywog> is there a way to change my screen size if I do not have a numeric keypad?
[15:55] <Vermux> WaltzingAlong: when upgrading, will I use any of my data like bookmarks, open web sites etc...?
[15:55] <onishidato> thanks all, i can update adept now
[15:55] <Vermux> WaltzingAlong: use=lose
[15:55] <stdin> Vermux: no you won't
[15:55] <WaltzingAlong> Vermux: if something goes terribly wrong otherwise no
[15:56] <WaltzingAlong> like a meltdown or mouse in your computer
[15:56] <houshuang> waltingalone: well i was asking specifically for kubuntu packages.
[15:56] <Xeross> Ok bacvk
[15:56] <Vermux> so if I have 5 wweb sites that are opened with firefox- it will stay opened?
[15:56] <Xeross> kubuntu stopped working
[15:56] <Xeross> now on live cd
[15:56] <apparle> anybody here can help me about GRUB. SOS I cannot boot(neither win no linux
[15:56]  * Jucato teaches houshuang about pressing the Tab key in IRC to autocomplete nicks....
[15:56] <stdin> Vermux: yes, you can work as normal while the upgrade happens
[15:57] <Vermux> stdin: ok
[15:57] <vbgunz> is there an easy way to find your bookmarks in KPDF?
[15:57] <ssavilam> Hello everyone
[15:57] <houshuang> Jucato: Thanks.
[15:57] <vbgunz> other than scrolling for them in navigator?
[15:57] <Xeross> now what do i do
[15:57] <Xeross> it sais at first
[15:57] <Jucato> vbgunz: nope... unfortunately
[15:57] <ssavilam> do you mind if i ask a question recarding the restricted-manager?
[15:57] <Xeross> it cant resume session
[15:57] <Jucato> vbgunz: that has become better in okular
[15:57] <ssavilam> im having sort of problams running it
[15:57] <Xeross> then i login on command line interface thing
[15:57] <vbgunz> okular?
[15:57] <Xeross> and type startx
[15:57] <Xeross> and it cant find any monitors
[15:57] <vbgunz> Jucato: I'll have a check, thanks :)
[15:57] <ssavilam> i installed my kubuntu 7.10 system with finnish locales
[15:57] <Jucato> vbgunz: the successor of kpdf in kde4
[15:58] <Jucato> but expanded and improved
[15:58] <ssavilam> now when i try to run restrcited-manager i get ValueError: unsupported format character 'k' (0x6b) at index 82
[15:58] <ssavilam> and instead of Y we use K in finnish to indicate yes
[15:58] <vbgunz> Jucato: dang, no 3.5.8 support?
[15:58] <Jucato> vbgunz: nope. it's pure qt4/kde4
[15:59] <Pollywog> I thought we all used "k" for that
[15:59] <Vermux> when upgrading, I got the following message: could not verify the integrity of the upgrader application. This program will now exit
[15:59] <vbgunz> ahh
[15:59] <Black_Monkey> what's the file you need to chmod to stop the screen locking bug?
[15:59] <Vermux> what do I do?
[15:59] <vbgunz> Jucato: thank you :)
[15:59] <Xeross> thanks for the great support
[15:59] <Xeross> very encouraging to start working with kubuntu
[16:00] <Vermux> WaltzingAlong: when upgrading, I got the following message: "could not verify the integrity of the upgrader application. This program will now exit"
[16:00] <BluesKaj> Xeross, great ppl here...helped me a lot over the last yrs
[16:00] <Xeross> ye
[16:00] <BluesKaj> 2 yrs
[16:00] <Xeross> but they tell me to
[16:00] <Xeross> activate a driver
[16:00] <Xeross> i reboot
[16:00] <Xeross> and kde is fucked
[16:00] <Xeross> cant find no monitors
[16:00] <Tm_T> oh my
[16:01] <stdin> !language | Xeross
[16:01] <ubotu> Xeross: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:01] <Pollywog> !ohmy
[16:01] <Xeross> ok srry
[16:01] <WaltzingAlong> Xeross: easy to reconfigure X; get to a terminal then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[16:01] <Xeross> just starts to get annoying after installing kubuntu 4 times
[16:01] <Xeross> does it disable the driver i activated then
[16:01] <Xeross> ?
[16:02] <Pollywog> Xeross: I always keep a backup of xorg.conf for when I update
[16:02] <Xeross> i didnt update
[16:02] <WaltzingAlong> Xeross: well also check the x log at less /var/log/Xorg.0.log  to see the errors
[16:02] <Xeross> i went to System Settings > advanced > restricted drivers
[16:02] <apparle> SOS!! Installer fails at 94% (tried thrice)?? GRUB repair also fails error 15.
[16:02] <Xeross> and enabled nvidia graphics driver
[16:03] <BluesKaj> Xeross, have you set up the monitor driver as well, or just the grphx card?
[16:03] <Pollywog> apparle: that happened to me and it was a bad iso
[16:03] <Pollywog> apparle: did you check the md5sum?
[16:03] <Xeross> both monitors are connected to my nvidia mx460
[16:04] <apparle> Pollywog: Shipit CDs. Tried three different Cds
[16:04] <Pollywog> k
[16:04] <Xeross> xorg.0.log shows no erros
[16:04] <apparle> Pollywog: Also checked them for errors
[16:04] <Pollywog> apparle: did you try the alternate installer?
[16:04] <BluesKaj> yes, but have you set up the monitor drivers, Xeross ...sometimes they need to be configured to work with kubuntu as well
[16:04] <Xeross> i tried
[16:04] <Xeross> but adept failed
[16:05] <Xeross> i tried to dl the nvidia-glx package
[16:05] <Pollywog> Xeross: I had to use apt because adept would not upgrade Feisty to Gutsy
[16:05] <apparle> Pollywog: I cannot get it as I have slow net and shipit does not send them
[16:05] <Xeross> i already have gutsy
[16:05] <Xeross> apt-get right
[16:05] <Pollywog> Xeross: k
[16:06] <Pollywog> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[16:06] <Xeross> !pastebin > Xeross
[16:06] <Xeross> WTH
[16:06] <Xeross> on livecd
[16:06] <apparle> Pollywog: got any other ideas
[16:06] <Xeross> it doesnt fail
[16:06] <sebastian^> hey folks :)
[16:06] <Xeross> the driver install
[16:07] <Xeross> ill try to install it in the terminal brb reboot
[16:07] <Pollywog> apparle: no, unfortunately... I think the alternate installer is the ticket for you
[16:07] <jim88> hi all ... can anyone tell me how to create a desktop link of a spreadsheet from one account on the same machine to another account on the same machine ... permissions were already granted ... I want to create a desktop link
[16:08] <apparle> Pollywog: can you suggest any way to get it without downloading
[16:08] <Pollywog> none, other than having a friend download and burn it for you
[16:09] <Pollywog> or maybe at a library
[16:09] <WaltzingAlong> jim88: right mouse click the desktop, create new link to location (URL) then specify the URL such as /home/user2/files/oursheet.ods
[16:10] <apparle> Pollywog: i am in India and most people in India think a computer means windows
[16:10] <apparle> bye
[16:10] <jim88> WaltzingAlong: Thank you I will try it
[16:10] <apparle> bye everyone
[16:10] <jim88> bye
[16:10] <Pollywog> I though Linux was big in India
[16:10] <Pollywog> thought*
[16:11] <The-Compiler> Hi
[16:11] <apparle> Pollywog: Only for professional people. Not general users like me
[16:11] <Pollywog> oic
[16:12] <xeross> T3H W00T1Z
[16:12] <xeross> i installed the package and it works :D'
[16:12] <xeross> lets see if i can get second monitor working
[16:14] <Arelis> Hi all. I tried to install KDE 4.. seems like i installed beta 4, instead of Release Candidate 1. How can i upgrade?
[16:14] <xeross> damn second screen
[16:14] <stdin> Arelis: what makes you think you installed beta4?
[16:14] <xeross> am i allowed to say damn ?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> xeross,too late
[16:15] <xeross> second screen cant be turned on in config
[16:15] <Arelis> stdin: the text i get when i click "about" on everything
[16:15] <WaltzingAlong> Arelis: there are instructions at www.kubuntu.org
[16:15] <Jucato> Arelis: see the link in the /topic
[16:15] <Arelis> stdin: says it's beta4
[16:15] <Arelis> Jucato: yep, and that's what installed beta4
[16:15] <Jucato> Arelis: is it saying 3.96.00 though?
[16:15] <stdin> Arelis: yeah, but does the version say 3.96.0?
[16:15] <Arelis> let me take a gander
[16:16] <Riddell> Arelis: that's a known upstream bug
[16:16] <Riddell> blame the release manager for not changing that string
[16:16] <Tm_T> :p
[16:16] <Arelis> Jucato: it says 3.96.00
[16:16] <Jucato> Arelis: then it's rc1
[16:17] <Jucato> see what Riddell just said
[16:17] <Arelis> Jucato: why is it so incomplete then? why can't i change the wallpaper? why can't i change the location of the taskbar?
[16:17] <xeross> ok drivers and stuff installed
[16:17] <xeross> now i dont know how i can config them
[16:17] <stdin> just get a small bit of sticky tape with "RC 1" on it and place it over the screen :p
[16:17] <xeross> in system settings the screen dialog doesnt work
[16:17] <Jucato> Arelis: the moving of the items in the panel isn't implemented yet afaik
[16:18] <Arelis> Jucato: hmm. and wallpaper changing?
[16:18] <Jucato> it should be there already afaik...
[16:18] <Jucato> right-click on the desktop?
[16:18] <Jucato> either that or they implemented it after RC1 was tagged
[16:18] <xeross> got to restart x
[16:20] <Riddell> changing wallpapers wasn't implemented in RC 1
[16:21] <Arelis> Jucato: only says "Add plasma widgets"
[16:21] <xeross> i cant configure screen resolution
[16:21] <Arelis> Jucato: and log out
[16:21] <xeross> when i change it
[16:21] <xeross> it stays the same
[16:22] <Jucato> Arelis: <Riddell> changing wallpapers wasn't implemented in RC 1
[16:22] <BluesKaj> anyone else have stuck repos probs ? here in canucksville some of them seem to down and are timing out.
[16:23] <Arelis> hmm, i'll deinstall kde 4 then :P
[16:24] <BluesKaj> hmm, maybe a router reboot is in order...
[16:24] <xeross> anyone know how i can fix thaqt
[16:25] <BluesKaj> xeroos in system settings /monitor & display/admin mode will allow you to change ...has to be done with permission
[16:25] <BluesKaj> er xeross
[16:26] <xeross> doesnt change
[16:26] <xeross> when in admin mode
[16:26] <BluesKaj> relogin afterwards
[16:26] <xeross> ok
[16:27] <MilitantPotato> Man samba put me through a loop trying to enable password protected shares
[16:28] <xeross> ok
[16:28] <xeross> works
[16:28] <xeross> g2g
[16:28] <xeross> ill continue tomorrow
[16:28] <xeross> thx for the help
[16:29] <WaltzingAlong> MilitantPotato: thanks to nfs and sshfs at the end?
[16:29] <MilitantPotato> WaltzingAlong: it was a mix between mdsmf and not being able to add users/encrypted passords
[16:29] <MilitantPotato> and firestarter silently blocking ports
[16:30] <WaltzingAlong> :D
[16:31] <MilitantPotato> gsambad took care of the password and user issues, and turning off msdfs fixed the "smb:/blah/blah does not exist."
[16:35] <lapisdecor> sorry about the offtopic: I'm trying to confire moodle to use gmail for domains as smtp server, anyone has done this with sucess?
[16:36] <MilitantPotato> firestarter still keeps blocking my workgroup though, I have to stop the firewall to get access to it, doesn't do that on my wife's PC though...
[16:36] <MilitantPotato> lapisdecor: tried #networking yet?
[16:36] <lapisdecor> I'm in moodle channel but there is noone there
[16:37] <lapisdecor> will try it
[16:39] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. My bash history is Not rembering ./whatever    type commands..     wonder what setting makes it do that..
[16:42] <stdin> Dr_willis: want another interesting bash history bug? put a space before a command and run it, then press up
[16:42] <Dr_willis> not sure if this is a bug or not. In the history it output it just says  [edit]
[16:42] <stdin> may be fixed actually... nit sure
[16:43] <tier> hello, anyone a sony vaio with a radeon mobility 9600?
[16:43] <stdin> I tend to use zsh now, has a few really good features
[16:43] <Dr_willis> Ok... NOW its rembering it...
[16:44] <lapisdecor> Militant nobody seems to care
[16:44] <MilitantPotato> Hmm
[16:44] <MilitantPotato> How do I logout of a samba share session?
[16:47] <Dr_willis> how did you login?
[16:47] <susi_> moin
[16:49] <FireON> hi there!
[16:49] <MilitantPotato> Dr_willis: via remote places
[16:49] <cuco> anyone here tested the kde4 packages? on intel based cards?
[16:50] <Dr_willis> MilitantPotato,  as far as ive seen you just close the windows accessing the place. It may rember your login/password for the session however if you try to go back
[16:50] <MilitantPotato> It does remember :(
[16:51] <MilitantPotato> rkhunter gave me a couple warnings, sweet.
[16:53] <timri> MilitantPotato: One sec, let me ssh into your box, I'll fix them
[16:53] <tier> anyone a radeon mobility 9600 with 7.10?
[16:56] <MilitantPotato> timri: heh.
[16:57] <bazhang> MilitantPotato: I always get a couple of warnings in that--nothing to be concerned about afaik
[16:59] <Dr_willis> Hmm dosent the 9600 use the normal 'ati' driver. not the fglrx one?
[17:00]  * genii sips a very large coffee
[17:01] <timri> MilitantPotato: If you get stuff like "Warning: Hidden directory found: /dev/.static"  etc, those are false positives
[17:01] <MilitantPotato> my su has a warning
[17:01] <timri> MilitantPotato: ouch
[17:01] <WaltzingAlong> tier: yes
[17:02] <timri> MilitantPotato: Pastebin it, perhaps anyone here can say something about it
[17:02] <MilitantPotato> can you check a room for a specific IP?
[17:03] <MilitantPotato> without whois'n everyone
[17:03] <softmaster> hi all
[17:03] <Ayabara> anyone here using picasa? or is it digikam only?
[17:03] <Dr_willis> i would think you would need a script for that, that would whois them
[17:03] <Dr_willis> I use picassa all the time. :)
[17:03] <MilitantPotato> this IP has been scanning me for a week now.
[17:03] <MilitantPotato>  85.190.0.3
[17:04] <Dr_willis> block it with the proper iptables command?
[17:04] <softmaster> I just wanna to know how to take asnapshot of my desktop?
[17:04] <WaltzingAlong> Ayabara: i use both picasa and digikam though digikam more and more and picasa just for picasaweb uploads
[17:04] <Dr_willis> it may not even be someone you know/see on irc.
[17:04] <Ayabara> Dr_willis: which version do you use?
[17:04] <WaltzingAlong> !info ksnapshot | softmaster, usually just the printscreen key
[17:04] <Dr_willis> Ayabara,  whateer was the lastest 3 weeks ago when i downloaded it. :)
[17:04] <ubotu> softmaster, usually just the printscreen key: ksnapshot: screenshot utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 173 kB, installed size 432 kB
[17:05] <koomi> mornings
[17:05] <MilitantPotato> Dr_willis: my router seems to be fending him off
[17:05] <softmaster> WaltzingAlong thanks
[17:05] <Dr_willis> 2.2.2825 seems tobe the version #
[17:05] <Ayabara> the picasa .deb is ooooold compared to the latest for windows I think. I once had a link to a page describing how to install the latest picasa using wine.
[17:05] <Ayabara> can't find it now :-/
[17:05]  * WaltzingAlong has been using the windows picasa build through wine
[17:06] <WaltzingAlong> Ayabara: wine picasaweb-current.exe
[17:06] <timri> MilitantPotato: Phone number with that IP: 0800 1656531 (Germany), give them a call
[17:06] <Ayabara> WaltzingAlong: do you run the installer for that?
[17:06] <Dr_willis> I think picasa uses wine anyway. :) well their own wine
[17:06] <WaltzingAlong> Dr_willis: true
[17:06] <Dr_willis> Home brew wine :)
[17:07] <WaltzingAlong> Ayabara: download the .exe from picasa.google.com then wine thatexe runs the installer, yes
[17:07] <Ayabara> WaltzingAlong: on my way. thanks :-)
[17:08] <hero> what is intended to be used for sms messages in kontact?
[17:08] <Ayabara> should be possible to mount hfs+ in ubuntu, right?
[17:08] <Dr_willis> !hfs
[17:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[17:08] <Dr_willis> Not sure about the hfs+ bit..
[17:09] <Dr_willis> !find hfs
[17:09] <ubotu> Found: hfsplus, hfsutils, libhfsp-dev, libhfsp0, squashfs-tools (and 5 others)
[17:09] <Dr_willis> !info hfsplus
[17:09] <ubotu> hfsplus: Tools to access HFS+ formatted volumes. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.4-12build1 (gutsy), package size 45 kB, installed size 236 kB
[17:09] <Dr_willis> :) looks like its a yes.
[17:09] <Ayabara> Dr_willis: thanks again
[17:09] <Ayabara> just need to get the data from the drive so I can format it to ext3
[17:13] <serenity> re
[17:21] <Narada> hi; how can i remove or permanently disable avahi-daemon without removing other linked dependencies?
[17:23] <timri> Narada: system-settings->system services, set avahi-daemon to not start at boot
[17:23]  * timri just installed xsnow and amor
[17:24] <Narada> timri: that sounds great but it is not even listed there as a service
[17:24] <timri> Narada: It is here :)
[17:24] <timri> Narada: In that case: I have no clue
[17:24] <Narada> timri: it is in /etc/init.d though
[17:25] <Narada> timri: for me it is System > Services
[17:26] <timri> Narada: I use kcontrol, so I had to "translate" it a bit, btw what says ps aux | grep avahi
[17:26] <Narada> timri: that's why i couldn't find it; because it is called multicast dns service discovery
[17:26]  * timri is going to sudo aptitude purge amor NOW!
[17:26] <timri> Narada: Weird, kcontrol calls it avahi-daemon
[17:27] <bjorn_> hey is there a channel for thinkpad users?  having a terrible problem with my trackpoint
[17:28] <Dr_willis> I think theres a thinkpad forum on the ubuntu forums
[17:29] <Narada> timri: done thanks so much
[17:29] <sdlnxgk> Happy Pre Thanksgiving Everyone I'm off to Las Vegas !!!Q
[17:30] <bjorn_> thanks dr_willis
[17:31] <qolo> I want to change my JAVA_HOME environment variable in /etc/enviornment, how can I reload the value after Ive changed w/o logging out and back in ?
[17:31] <qolo> also, how do I get to a text based startup instead of a GUI startup thing ?
[17:32] <Dr_willis> disable gdm/kdm service :)
[17:32] <Jucato> excuse me, is there something special I need to do to enable 3d acceleration on an intel IGP? (855GM)
[17:34] <Vermux> Is it possible to back up files that I have on xp machine to another machine that runs Kubuntu through the network?
[17:34] <Dr_willis> Vermux,  yes.
[17:35] <Dr_willis> Vermux,   you can access the linux box with samba, and just copy things over.. or use some other backup tools.
[17:35] <Dr_willis> or use ssh and winscp,
[17:35] <wraithmagi> ok... quick question... keep getting message that apps like ark, dolphin, and konqueror cannot save changes to various files (bookmarks.xml, etc....)
[17:35] <Vermux> how do I get samba and for what purpose?
[17:35] <wraithmagi> says most likely full disk, but have 18Gb free.
[17:36] <Dr_willis> !samba
[17:36] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[17:36] <wraithmagi> do I just need to change permissions on the /.kde folder?
[17:36] <Dr_willis> Vermux,  may be easier to just use ssh and winscp then.
[17:36] <Dr_willis> Vermux,  how much data are you talking about?
[17:36] <Vermux> what is winscp?
[17:36] <Dr_willis> Vermux,  a windows front end to ssh/scp
[17:36] <bjorn_> anyone know about the trackpoint bug with ibm thinkpad r31 (even on gutsy)
[17:37] <Vermux> about 50 or more giga I think
[17:37] <Vermux> what is scp?
[17:37] <genii> scp = secure copy
[17:37] <Dr_willis> Vermux,  the copy command that ssh uses
[17:38] <Vermux> ic
[17:38] <Dr_willis> and if you dont know what ssh is... well.. :)
[17:38] <Dr_willis> !ssh
[17:38] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[17:38] <Dr_willis> I use winscp/ssh to transfer stuff to/from windows machines - when i just have to do it once or twice and dont want to mess with samba.
[17:39] <Vermux> Ic
[17:39] <bjorn_> anyone know about trackpoint bugs? cheers
[17:39] <Vermux> I may get to that later on..  I got an extra machine that I think I will install Kubuntu on it and use it as backup for the other xp machine
[17:40] <wraithmagi> any ideas on my ?
[17:41] <Vermux> Dr_willis: I have the machine with xp for about 4 years now. never backed up my music and media files.
[17:41] <Dr_willis> Vermux,  if you want the kubuntu box to be a fileserver, you will want to learn about samba.
[17:41] <Dr_willis> then you can access it from windows as you would any other shared folder on a windows machine.
[17:42] <Doctor_Nick> has anyone tried kde4 rc1 yet?
[17:42] <Vermux> Dr_willis: what uses would I do with it if it will be used as file server?
[17:42] <Dr_willis> Vermux,  install and configure samba
[17:43] <Dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[17:43] <ubotu> samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 6816 kB, installed size 14752 kB
[17:43] <Vermux> Dr_willis: would I be able to use the file server machine as just workstation too? for Linux?
[17:43] <Dr_willis> the samba-doc package has whole books on the topic. :)  but its rather straightforwared
[17:43] <Dr_willis> Vermux,  of course.
[17:43] <MilitantPotato>  85.190.0.3  Anyone able to sort out who/what that IP is?
[17:43] <Dr_willis> My fileserver, is also a desktop, and a torrent grabber, and a vncserver, and a mythtv backend.
[17:44] <loguser1> can i run windows (that is preinstalled on a partition) from linux kubuntu at the same time?
[17:44] <Vermux> Dr_willis: I undersood up to the word "Desktop...." but leave it for now
[17:44] <qolo> Dr_willis: thanks that worked
[17:45] <qolo> loguser1: try VirtualBox, thats what I use to run windows in linnux
[17:45] <qolo> its insanely easy to setup
[17:45] <bjorn_> anyone know where i could look for trackpoint help with the thinkpad?
[17:45] <Dr_willis> Problem with a preinstalled windows, under a virtual machine is that windows will basicially 'see' that its been removed and put in a totally new machine/new hardware.. That may flag the windows anti-piracy stuff.
[17:46] <Dr_willis> of course if you boot back to the original machine.. the Os will see that its been changed again.
[17:46] <bottiger> I tried installing the KDE4 RC1 as posted on kubuntu.org . However it fails with this message "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)".
[17:46] <TimS> I am using kaffien to run DivX videos off stage6, but I cannot seek within the video like i would in the stag6 player on windows, is there a way arround this?
[17:48] <loguser1> qolo:  ok
[17:48] <Vermux> Dr_willis: do u suggest installing both win and linux samba on the extra machine or just linux samba?
[17:48] <loguser1> qolo:  by that i cant run both linux and preinstalled windows at the same time
[17:48] <Dr_willis> There is no 'windows samba'  - Linux uses 'samba' to access the windows 'network neighborhood' type shares. and visa-versa
[17:49] <Dr_willis> unless you mean installing 2 os's.  in that case.. do what you want. :) i dont see much need for windows on the other box.
[17:49] <loguser1> how can i see my network computers
[17:50] <Vermux> Dr_willis: ok, I think I will install kubuntu. does samba is an additional software or it has to be installed together with kubuntu?
[17:50] <Dr_willis> when samba is configured right it  the shares will appear under the 'network neighborhood' stuff
[17:51] <Dr_willis> samba is not isntalled by default
[17:51] <Dr_willis> !find samba
[17:51] <ubotu> Found: dpsyco-samba, egroupware-sambaadmin, gsambad, system-config-samba, xffm4-samba (and 6 others)
[17:51] <Dr_willis> !info samba
[17:51] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 3750 kB, installed size 9212 kB
[17:52] <Vermux> brb- rebooting
[17:53] <loguser1> how can i see my network computers
[17:53] <Dr_willis> loguser1,  doublc click on the 'network neighborhood' icon and they should be in there somewhere.
[17:54] <Whistleboy> As a long time Debian user ready to move to kubuntu, I was confused on a couple of things.  I am used to just installing whatever I want and running whatever window manager I want.  My temptation was to load up ubuntu first and add the kde packages.  Does that make sense to do?
[17:54] <Whistleboy> to get both Gnome and KDE apps
[17:55] <Hydrogen> you can do so
[17:55] <kopyto> jak přehrávat videa z youtube přes konvector?
[17:55] <loguser1> wheres that icon
[17:55] <loguser1> Dr_willis: wheres that icon
[17:55] <Whistleboy> I am also confused of the state of kubunto 7.10, compiaz fusion, and KDE 4.
[17:56] <Hydrogen> !compiz | Whistleboy
[17:56] <ubotu> Whistleboy: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:56] <Hydrogen> !kde4 | Whistleboy
[17:56] <ubotu> Whistleboy: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[17:56] <Whistleboy> can one run both KDE 4 and compiz?
[17:57] <stdin> Whistleboy: if you install ubuntu first, it's best to install "kubuntu-desktop" package rather than "kde"
[17:57] <loguser1> can i run windows (that is preinstalled on a partition) from linux kubuntu at the same time?
[17:57] <loguser1> what options do i have. and is there a place where i can get their details.?
[17:57] <MilitantPotato> i ran rkhunter and /bin/su has it's permissions and group changed, the group is "admin" my samba share is a member, is this typical?
[17:57] <Whistleboy> ok, yea I had seen that.  thanks
[17:58] <Whistleboy> what was the reason for having compiz on ubuntu but not kubuntu?
[17:59] <Whistleboy> are there any disk partitioning recommendations?  I've had /var /usr /home and /, and swap on Debian - probably overkill
[18:00] <Whistleboy> I assume separate /home is a good idea
[18:00] <Whistleboy> but any advice on how big to make the / partition?
[18:00] <trappist> Whistleboy: http://blog.linuxkungfu.org/blog/index.php?/archives/15-My-Partitioning-Preferences.html
[18:01] <Whistleboy> thanks.  So far I am extremely impressed at the level of polish over Debian, and I am a big Debian fan!
[18:01] <ryan-c> hey, i can't access administrator mode in system settings.  I never get prompted for my password.
[18:02] <bjorn_> anyone know about the thinkpad prackpoint bug?  i'm supposed to add a line to the kernal but don't really know how to do it.  any help would be very appreciated, cheers
[18:02] <_Schlumpf> how can i find out which build options were used for compiling kde?
[18:08] <Dr_willis> loguser1,  you dont normally run 2 os's at once.  you boot to the one you want to use.
[18:09] <Dr_willis> loguser1,  if you just HAVE to have windows going at the same time you can install  one OS into a virtual machine like vmware, or virtualbox.
[18:09] <loguser1> k
[18:09] <loguser1> how can i see network computers
[18:09] <loguser1> ?
[18:10] <Dr_willis> how? how with what?
[18:10] <Dr_willis> You got 2 pc's networked right now?
[18:11] <loguser1> yes
[18:11] <Dr_willis>  PCstats guides you through the process of home networking - Version 1.1.0    http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1427
[18:12] <Dr_willis> You configure samba, you click on the network neighborhood icon under windows... it shows up  there.
[18:12] <Dr_willis> if you dont know have samba going on the linux box yet. You need to install it and configure it,
[18:12] <loguser1> isnt there any builtin thing in kubuntu for that
[18:12] <loguser1> >?
[18:12] <Dr_willis> proberly is.. but its a 5 sec manual edit for me.
[18:12] <Dr_willis> !samba
[18:12] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[18:13] <Dr_willis> theres some kde samba tool. but i forget its name.
[18:13] <Dr_willis> !find samba
[18:13] <ubotu> Found: dpsyco-samba, egroupware-sambaadmin, gsambad, system-config-samba, xffm4-samba (and 6 others)
[18:13] <Dr_willis> kdenetwork-filesharing - network filesharing configuration module for KDE
[18:13] <loguser1> k
[18:14] <Vermux> Dr_willis: I have 2 hard drives on the machine- each one is about 50 giga. How u would suggest installing Kubuntu?
[18:15] <ddddd> how to  remove al packages and only keep the linux-image-generic(and dependent packages) + ubuntu minimal(and dependent packages) metapackages ?
[18:15] <Dr_willis> Vermux,  may as well keep it simple and  put /home and swap on one, and / on the other.
[18:15] <Dr_willis> Vermux,  10gb may be plenty for / , but it all depends on your needs
[18:15] <Dr_willis> 10gb for / will NOT work for me. :)
[18:16] <Vermux> Dr_willis: my needs currently are to play with linux and to back up my data that resides currently with windows on another machine
[18:17] <ddddd> no one ?
[18:17] <ryan-c> anyone know why system settings won't let me enter administrator mode?
[18:19] <genii> ryan-c: Are you logged in as first default user that was created, or a subsequent username?
[18:19] <ryan-c> default user
[18:19] <ryan-c> it prompts me for my password, but then fails to load the module as root.
[18:19] <ryan-c> I can sudo with that user.
[18:19] <genii> ryan-c: Ah, that was my next question, about the sudo etc
[18:20] <ryan-c> ddddd: dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | awk '{ print $2 }' will give you a list of all packages installed
[18:20] <WaltzingAlong> ryan-c: kdesu systemsettings ?
[18:20] <genii> ryan-c: Did you chmod anything in that user's dir to other than that user's ownership?
[18:20] <ryan-c> genii: I don't think so
[18:20] <genii> *chown rather
[18:20] <ryan-c> immediatly after install it didn't work
[18:21] <ryan-c> kdesu systemsettings gives me warnings about DCOP tehn segfaults
[18:21] <rhadamanthe> hi all
[18:22] <Dr_willis> hi
[18:22] <Vermux> Dr_willis: if I give / 10 gb partition on one drive, the rest 40 gb wont be usable?
[18:22] <Dr_willis> of course you can use it. :)
[18:22] <Dr_willis> what you want to do with it - is another story.
[18:22] <Dr_willis> make it /var or /home or /porn or /whatever :)
[18:23] <Dr_willis> of course you proberly wont gain mych by splitting up /
[18:23] <ryan-c> kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'System/serviceconfig'.
[18:23] <Dr_willis> so just a / and swap on the first HD. then mount  the 2nd hd whever ya want. /home if you want a totally dedicated home drive.
[18:23] <ryan-c> that's one thing that shows up when i run from the shell and enter administrator mode
[18:23] <ryan-c> or use RAID1
[18:24] <rhadamanthe> i need help, i can't use amarok to read last.fm stream . when i launch amarok in a console it said : "amarok: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Impossible de trouver un module d'entrées/sorties pour le protocole « lastfm »."  somebody know what is the solution ? (sorry for my english : i'm french)
[18:25] <DK> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 64 bit off the alternate CD. Can someone help me partition my harddrive without erasing anything i've got on there?
[18:26] <genii> ryan-c: Perhaps try reinstalling the app, eg:  sudo apt-get remove --purge kde-systemsettings; sudo apt-get install kde-systemsettings
[18:26] <Dr_willis> DK,  well.. when in doubt BACKUP the imporntant stuff
[18:26] <ryan-c> genii, I already reinstalled
[18:26] <Dr_willis> DK,  i normall y use the live cd and the gparted/qtparted to resize the partitions manually, then install into the unallocated space. to be 'extra' safe
[18:26] <genii> ryan-c: With the --purge ?
[18:26] <Vermux> Dr_willis: so every time Im turning on the computer I will have to mount the 2nd hd (in case that I put /home on it)?
[18:27] <ryan-c> genii: not with purge
[18:27] <Dr_willis> Vermux,  thats what /etc/fstab does for you :)
[18:27] <WaltzingAlong> since when is reinstalling the answer? :D
[18:27] <DK> Dr_willis: did that, but my computer has windows installed as a partition instead of having a separate CD
[18:27] <genii> WaltzingAlong: Just one app, not the entire OS :)
[18:27] <DK> Dr_willis: I'm installing off the alternate CDs because the live CD wasnt working on my computer
[18:27] <Vermux> Dr_willis: remind me what is it?
[18:28] <ryan-c> do i need to worry that that's removing kubuntu desktop?
[18:28] <genii> ryan-c: Nah
[18:28] <Dr_willis> DK,  that... almost made sence..  you have a single HD. with 2 windows partitiosn on it? a system partition and a rescue/restire partition?
[18:28] <Dr_willis> !fstab
[18:28] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[18:28] <DK> Dr_willis: I'm trying to put ubuntu on a 15 GB partition without erasing anything else
[18:28] <ryan-c> it's just a meta package, isn't it?
[18:28] <ryan-c> DK, do you need to make any changes to the partition table?
[18:28] <DK> Dr_willis: yeah. One HD, 1 partition for my OS, 1 with the backup/reinstall files on it
[18:29] <Dr_willis> DK,  im not sure if the alternative cd- has a resize feature. I always either use a live cd (there are other distro/live cds that may work) to repartition with gparted manually.
[18:29] <DK> ryan-c: I'm trying to make a 3rd partition
[18:29] <ryan-c> can you either a) back up your data or b) afford to lose it?
[18:29] <Dr_willis> I always perfer to have a 2nd hd just for linux. :) unless of course this is a laptop.
[18:30] <DK> Dr_willis: this is on my laptop
[18:30] <kaminix> Is there any way at all to view or convert .sub files to a usable format under Linux?
[18:30] <DK> ryan-c: I'd rather not loose it
[18:30] <ryan-c> Dr_willis: I prefer to go tell windows to get the fsck off my computer >:)
[18:30] <ryan-c> DK: can you back it up?
[18:31] <DK> ryan-c: my most important documents are backed up, but I still want to keep windows on my computer
[18:31] <DK> Dr_willis: that's fair. I want to have both OSes here
[18:31] <ryan-c> genii: purging and reinstalling didn't work.
[18:31] <ryan-c> kaminix: mplayer or vlc can probably deal with them
[18:32] <ryan-c> DK, so you need to resize the windows partition?
[18:32] <kaminix> I'd prefer it if I could use mplayer somehow. VLC is okay, but mplayer is a big no no for an entire movie. :/
[18:32] <DK> ryan-c: sounds about right. I'd like to make a 3rd partition for linux
[18:33] <genii> It looks like the sudo is successful, but then it chokes because the subset/module of systemsettings called serviceconfig cannot be found.
[18:34] <ryan-c> genii: yeah, that was my conclusion
[18:34] <ryan-c> DK, can you afford to spend $30 on partition magic?
[18:34] <genii> ryan-c: does /usr/bin/serviceconfig   exist?
[18:34] <DK> ryan-c: is it cool to pm you?
[18:35] <DK> ryan-c: don't think so
[18:35] <WaltzingAlong> !info kcontrol
[18:35] <ubotu> kcontrol: control center for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 2945 kB, installed size 9220 kB
[18:35] <ryan-c> yeah, you can pm me
[18:36] <genii> WaltzingAlong: Yeah i'm thinking thats the package he needs to purge/refresh
[18:36] <ryan-c> genii: it does.  and fyi, NONE of the modules work
[18:36] <ryan-c> as root
[18:36] <ryan-c> using the administrator mode button
[18:37] <ryan-c> DK: The linux ntfsresize stuff sucked the last time i used it, and I prefer to use partition magic to resize ntfs partition as it does a much better job.
[18:38] <ryan-c> the linux one doesn't work well unless you defrag under windows first
[18:39] <Dr_willis> always a good idea to defrag/scan the disks,  befor and AFTER resizing them
[18:39] <BluesKaj> heh , beware of partition magic ...it can really screw up you drive(s)
[18:39] <Dr_willis> I tend to use gparted with no hassles so far. on the 20+ machines.
[18:39] <bottiger> ryan-c: are you sure? I recommended the gparted liveCD to a lot of people - only positive feedback
[18:39] <Dr_willis> Ive had partition magic - magicially trash things.
[18:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> never had any issues with PM when i used windows, but now it's gparted all the way :D
[18:39] <BluesKaj> !GParted | ryan-c
[18:39] <ubotu> ryan-c: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[18:39] <Dr_willis> Ive had issues with the PM company :) a lot..
[18:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> Dr_willis: symantec?
[18:40] <DK> ryan-c: I guess I'll give that a shot then. I've got three options here. #1 primary 109 GB B K ntfs /media/sda1, and under it it says 8.2MB free space
[18:40]  * genii sips a coffee and thinks
[18:40] <DK> then #2 primary 9.9GB K fat32, and #3 primary 1.1 GB k ntfs
[18:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> i have hundreds of problems with symantec.  95% of them start with 'norton'
[18:40] <ryan-c> also, post install, i did aptitude reinstall on every package on my system.
[18:40] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Laptop,  yep. they sort of liked to buy out companies that made products i used (their competiors) then kill off the product. and they would be Generous and offmer The Synaptic one for JUSt a upgrade price
[18:41] <ryan-c> norton antivirus protects your computer by slowing it down so much that you don't want to use it.
[18:41] <ardchoille> lol
[18:41] <BluesKaj> !gparted | sorry DK, wasn't reading closely enuff
[18:41] <ubotu> sorry DK, wasn't reading closely enuff: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[18:41] <ryan-c> genii: can i purge kcontrol so dependancies don't get removed?
[18:42] <DK> well, I've tried the live CDs, and none have worked for either ubuntu or kubuntu
[18:42] <DK> so now im using the alternate install CDs
[18:43] <ryan-c> genii, reinstalling kcontrol didn't work
[18:43] <genii> ryan-c: When i did a test of removeing kcontrol it has on the list of items to remove: kcontrol kde-systemsettings kmplayer-konq-plugins konq-plugins konqueror kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts
[18:44] <ryan-c> I could delete every file the package owns then reinstall.
[18:44] <genii> well, kubuntu-desktop is the entire metapackage
[18:44] <genii> So i would not suggest
[18:44] <genii> work, afk
[18:44] <BluesKaj> DK, gparted is a live bootable cd , that works with windows and linux ...very easy to use and has proven to be safe and effective.
[18:45] <DK> can anyone help me partition my hard drive using the alternate Ubuntu CD?
[18:45] <DK> Blues Kaj: is it free?
[18:45] <BluesKaj> yes
[18:45] <ardchoille> kubuntu-desktop is just a met package, it can be safely removed without harming the system. Purging it, however, is another matter entirely
[18:45] <BluesKaj> DK, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[18:46] <Dr_willis> gparted live cd - is a MUST have in your PC toolbox. :)
[18:46] <Dr_willis> Puppylinux, and a DSL live cd are also worth having handy
[18:47] <DK> Blues Kaj: I've never really partitoined a hard drive before. Is this simple?
[18:47] <ryan-c> also getting "kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available" errors when trying to use administrator mode on stuff
[18:47] <Dr_willis> DK,  if you have never done it befor.. I highly suggest the parted live cd. If it works..
[18:48] <DK> Dr_willis: I've tried the ubuntu/kubuntu live CDs for my computer, none have worked
[18:48] <BluesKaj> ryan-c,try : sudo updatedb
[18:48] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: And putting puppylinux, DSL, MEPIS, knoppix and Kubuntu livecd all on a live dvd is even handier :)
[18:48] <Dr_willis> DK,  try the others...
[18:48] <DK> Dr_willis: I've only gotten the alternate CDs to work so far
[18:48] <Dr_willis> ardchoille,  dont for get geexbox
[18:48] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: Ah.. :)
[18:48] <DK> Dr_willis: what others? as in, older versions?
[18:48] <Dr_willis> DK,  the others dsl/puppy are not ubuntu takeoffs. they are from different peoples..  they should work
[18:48] <Dr_willis> If you cant get ANY live cd's working at all.. well thats a bad sign
[18:49] <llp78> hi all on the old version of kubuntu(feisty) my mobile communicated as expected now on the new version(dusty dawn) plug the phone in and nothing... where do i start to try and sort this out?
[18:49] <DK> Dr_willis: I'm not sure what those things are
[18:49] <Dr_willis> They tend to default to very 'safe' defaults.
[18:49] <Dr_willis> DK,  Gparted livecd, mentioned above, would be what i would download/try next.
[18:49] <Dr_willis> its only like 50mb.
[18:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> dusty dawn?  wt...
[18:49] <ardchoille> lol
[18:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> are we talking about the same distro here?
[18:50] <BluesKaj> DK, you may have to go into your BIOS boot sequence to make the the cd/dvdrom #1 on the sequence list
[18:50] <DK> Dr_willis: so which live CDs did you say I should try?
[18:50] <llp78> Daisuke_Laptop.. lol i ment Gutsy Gibbon
[18:50] <genii> back
[18:50] <ryan-c> BluesKaj: why? it ran last night from cron
[18:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> that was weird :)
[18:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> but cool :P
[18:51] <BluesKaj> wb genii
[18:51] <genii> BluesKaj: LOL thanks
[18:51] <llp78> is auto mount still default in  Gutsy Gibbon
[18:51] <Dr_willis> DK,  the gparted live cd, Puppylinux, and DSl
[18:52] <BluesKaj> ryan-c, it's an update command after installing deb pkgs
[18:52] <DK> Dr_willis: I'll give those things a shot. anything I should do beforehand? i've got a lot of free space on my C drive, but do I have to do anything other than burn GParted onto a CD?
[18:52] <genii> ryan-c: Do you have some default encoding that is NOT utf-8?
[18:52] <ryan-c> I doubt it.
[18:52] <DK> Dr_willis: and how big should I make my linux partition?
[18:52] <genii> hmm
[18:52] <ryan-c> how would i check.
[18:53] <ryan-c> if not, it'd be en_US
[18:53] <BluesKaj> DK, what kind of work/play do you intend to do on the linux partition ?
[18:54] <Dr_willis> DK,  bigger is better. :)
[18:54] <DK> Blues Kaj: I want to just try out linux. I'm a students, so mostly open office stuff, download music, email and internet. basic stuff. maybe some audio recordings
[18:54] <ryan-c> BluesKaj: I know what it does.  I just reinstalled the package, i don't see the point.
[18:54] <biopod> anyone got vmware workstation installed on 7.10?
[18:55] <ryan-c> and it'll take forever to run.
[18:55] <Dr_willis> DK,  i have linux machines with 1TB of drive space.
[18:55] <ryan-c> this one computer has 6x200GB and 2x250GB drives
[18:55]  * genii sips a coffee and thinks about kde-guidance
[18:55] <DK> Dr_willis: I have 75 GB free on my HD, and I'd like my linux partition to be able to read files on my Windows XP partition. will that happen?
[18:55] <ryan-c> raid6 is fun
[18:55] <ryan-c> DK, yes.
[18:56] <Dr_willis> DK,  linux can read/write ntfs and vfat
[18:56] <Dr_willis> windows can read/write ext2/3 witht he right tools. (not all that safe however)
[18:56] <vadim> hi2all
[18:57] <biopod> DK: you should know it might make you edit a few configuration files.
[18:57] <vadim> need a little help :) what package should be installed to make possible automatic convertion of mp3 files to wav in K3b...
[18:57] <DK> biopod: I don't mind learning that so much. right now i'm just trying to figure out how to partition my HD to run linux and windows without erasing any of my windows stuff
[18:58] <Vermux> Dr_willis: why when I typ cat fstab the columns are not alligned?
[18:58] <ryan-c> http://pastebin.com/m736a8070 < console from systemsettings
[18:59] <biopod> DK: i think partition magic was the tool for editing partitions in windows. after that, it'll be easy
[18:59] <genii> ryan-c: You are running as root?
[19:00] <genii> eg:remove /root/.DCOPserver_windy__0        etc etc
[19:00] <genii> (in the paste)
[19:00] <DK> biopod: I was recomended GParted
[19:01] <DK> i'm basically looking for a very easy way to partition my HD. should I try an old version of linux for a live CD?
[19:01] <biopod> DK: i never used it on windows. so i cant really say.
[19:01] <biopod> DK: why old version?
[19:01] <Dr_willis> Vermux,  so? why do you think that matters. :)
[19:01] <DK> biopod: I can't get any live CDs of v7,10 to work for ubuntu or kubuntu
[19:01] <Dr_willis> work time for me.. byeee...
[19:02] <biopod> dk: old computer?
[19:02] <Vermux> Dr_willis: it seems to be not organized
[19:02] <mot_> what's the package that i need to have installed so that when i open konqueror i can go to the "view" menu and select "photobook" as a way of viewing my photos?
[19:02] <DK> biopod: not really. it's an HP dv6040us
[19:03] <biopod> DK: should work... did you asked the guys here? i'm sure they can help (i'm a noob my self, so cant really offer anything but mental support..)
[19:03] <DK> biopod: whenever I tried to install, it'd just quit after some loading text and the screen would go blank and the disk would stop spinning
[19:03] <biopod> maybe your disk is not good?
[19:04] <xst> After upgrading to gutsy, it goes wrong when I try to print out on a small paper size from OpenOffice: Instead of centering the paper, the contents are printed to the left. This is a problem as the paper feed are narrowing towards the *center* when I adjust it to fit the paper size. It worked fine in Feisty. What is wrong?
[19:04] <DK> biopod: I ran the disk check features for them. I've tired 64 bit versions of kubuntu and ubuntu, and the 86x version of kubuntu
[19:05] <vadim> well, looks like libk3b2-mp3 is the solution for my quation... thx, 2 all who tried to find an answer...
[19:05] <biopod> DK: as I said, I can't really help you with it, but you can try the 7.04 and see how it goes.
[19:06] <DK> biopod: if I make the 7.04 install work, will it be an easy upgrade?
[19:06] <biopod> yea
[19:06] <biopod> DK: yea, it will be easier then you imagine
[19:06] <DK> biopod: will it just update itself via downloads or how much manual effort will I have to put in?
[19:06] <BluesKaj> DK , there shouldn't be any diff trying 7.10 vs 7.04 installs
[19:07] <loguser1> is there a p2p app that can by pass any router or firewall?
[19:08] <DK> Blues Kaj: well, i'm still not sure why the live CDs don't work as tey should. the text goes though, then nothing. just blank screen, no disk spinning, nothing
[19:09] <ScorpKing> DK: press <ctrl>+<alt><keypad+> a few times and see if it does anything.
[19:10] <DK> ScorpKing: I think I tried that once. Do you mean any button on the keypad or the "+" button?
[19:10] <genii> ryan-c: Other than messed up permissions/ownership of files in the user's home dir, corrupt/misconfigured kcontrol or kde-guidance I'm pretty much outta immediate ideas
[19:10] <ScorpKing> DK: the + button on the keypad. not the + with <shift>
[19:11] <ScorpKing> hi genii
[19:11]  * genii slides ScorpKing a coffee
[19:11] <ryan-c> damnit.
[19:11] <ryan-c> it's annoying :/
[19:11] <DK> ScorpKing: so basically ctrl, alt, and = all at the same time? just making sure I didn't do this wrong last time I tried
[19:12] <ScorpKing> ty genii
[19:12] <ScorpKing> DK: no. it has to be ctrl alt keypad+. it will switch resolution
[19:13] <DK> ScorpKing: well, now i'm a little confused
[19:13] <biopod> DK: do you have a laptop or a desktop
[19:13] <DK> biopod: laptop
[19:13] <ScorpKing> DK: the = <+> is the wrong one
[19:14] <DK> ScorpKing: that might be what I did wrong. which "+" do I use?
[19:15] <ScorpKing> DK: the keypad one.
[19:15] <ScorpKing> NOT shift =
[19:15] <biopod> DK: what ScorpKing is saying that maybe the defult screen resulotion is not set right for your computer, and that maybe it's just a matter of changing it. in linux, they have a shortcut to change the resolution, it's alt control and + ./// i dont think there are 2 + keys on your computer, so the =/+ will do.
[19:16] <DK> biopod: I think I tried that one already. the thing is, it starts out normal, but then the text dissapears and the disk stops spinning
[19:16] <ScorpKing> it might be the second function key and ;/:
[19:16] <ScorpKing> function key*
[19:17] <ja2> why is source-o-matic page so small?
[19:17] <ScorpKing> DK: it might also be that kdm does not start. you can go to tty1 and start it manually
[19:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> ja2: it was designed by little people
[19:17] <biopod> or you can just try to kill it with the ctrl alt backspace and see what you get.
[19:18] <DK> I'll try those things out. thanks
[19:18] <ja2> lol it use to have more repo's.... now it only had 4!!!
[19:18] <ScorpKing> !repos
[19:18] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[19:18] <ja2> que passa hombre ?
[19:18] <biopod> so, anyone can tell me something about vmware?
[19:18] <ScorpKing> biopod: what do you want to know?
[19:19] <biopod> i want to know if there's another alternative for it.
[19:19] <ScorpKing> yes
[19:19] <ScorpKing> !info virtualbox
[19:19] <ubotu> Package virtualbox does not exist in gutsy
[19:19] <ScorpKing> bah.
[19:19] <ScorpKing> !virtualbox
[19:19] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[19:20] <biopod> thanks
[19:20] <ja2> blah blah blah
[19:20] <biopod> i wonder if it will run xp and photoshop cs3 on it.
[19:20] <ScorpKing> biopod: maybe. i know vmware does.
[19:21] <biopod> ScorpKing: i thought about going open source all the way...
[19:22] <ScorpKing> biopod: give virtualbox a try then. ;)
[19:22] <biopod> (except for the installation of xp and cs3 which are totally for work)
[19:22] <ScorpKing> if it runs xp the rest will work
[19:22] <ScorpKing> !emulate
[19:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emulate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:23] <ScorpKing> silly bot. :P
[19:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> except virtualbox's open version is missing a few things
[19:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> ScorpKing: false logic, infortunately.  3d is still iffy at best
[19:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> un*
[19:23] <ScorpKing> i won't know. hehe
[19:24] <ScorpKing> i use vmware and qemu here
[19:26] <mot_> how do i unpack a file packed as just a .gz
[19:26] <mot_> as in file.gz
[19:28] <genii> mot gzip
[19:29] <ScorpKing> or open it with ark
[19:30] <genii> mot_: command-line way:   gunzip -d <filename>
[19:43] <Agent_bob> i'd like to report another bug.   something in the dapper updates breaks "startkde"   the process "xrdb -nocpp -merge" hangs and leaves the gui useless.     this is a fresh clean install plus apt-get update/dist-upgrade   so nothing i have done.
[19:43] <_al_> hello
[19:43] <_al_> can someone tell me where could I find amarok2 package for gutsy gibbon?
[19:45] <ScorpKing> i can't install anything. i get - subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1. how can i fix it? it's cupsys that has the error
[19:46] <ScorpKing> Setting up cupsys (1.2.8-0ubuntu8.1) ... - that one
[19:48] <biopod> how do i add my user to a group?
[19:48] <ScorpKing> here is the full error i get - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45397/
[19:50] <TFrog> Does anyone know why i get a "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" from dolphin?
[19:51] <pennette> is there a channel for kommander ?
[19:52] <Agent_bob> update.  the bug is a known issue.   it's the same old   dev/null is a regular file with the wrong permissions bug...
[19:52] <ardchoille> pennette: I use kommander and maybe I can help
[19:52] <Agent_bob> seems that xrdb reads from /dev/null for input.   how dumb can you be and still breath...
[19:53] <trappist> ScorpKing: looks like bad update-rc.d usage in the postinst script.  look in /var/lib/dpkg/info for the postinst script and get rid of (or fix!) the update-rc.d line
[19:53] <pennette> ardchoille: well :) i have a treewiget and i would like , when some item is selected, set the value to a general variable
[19:53] <CPrgmSwR2> What video codecs is not supported by linux?
[19:53] <ScorpKing> trappist: thanks. will do
[19:54] <jmichaelx> is there any kind of known issue with KDE just crashing from time to time? i have had this problem at various points in both feisty and gutsy
[19:54] <CPrgmSwR2> jmichaelx: Interesting...
[19:54] <CPrgmSwR2> KDE hardly crashes at all for me
[19:54] <CPrgmSwR2> Its as stable as windows XP
[19:54] <jmichaelx> KDE has crashed twice for me today
[19:55] <jmichaelx> generally it is just a once in a while thing... but not good. i did a fresh install of gutsy this time wondering if that would help, but it didn't
[19:56] <jmichaelx> i guess i'll have to look through bug reports
[19:57] <ardchoille> pennette: Wouldn't it be:  @setGlobal(variable_name, @TreeWidget1.selection)
[19:57] <lego> Is there a way to change the screen resolution in Kubuntu 7.04?
[19:58] <lego> Is anyone around?
[19:58] <ScorpKing> yes. in kcontrol
[19:58] <ardchoille> lego: Are you wanting to select a res that's already in xorg.conf?
[19:59] <CPrgmSwR2> lego: upgrade to kubuntu 7.10
[19:59] <lego> I wanna change to a lower resolution than whatever it is on.
[19:59] <lego> Can I use 800x600?
[19:59] <pennette> ardchoille: yep but then i want use that variable_name in another string ( for exaple @setGlobal( variable_name, @TreeWiget1.selection) @exec (@variable_name) ) but after it said it doesn t know what is @varible_name
[19:59] <johan__> Any tips on any video edit programs?
[20:00] <ScorpKing> lego: yes
[20:00] <pennette> johan__: to do what ? convert or editing
[20:00] <lego> Found it.  Thank you,
[20:00] <johan__> pennette Editing
[20:00] <lego> Its set to 1280x1024.  No wonder I cannot read.  lol
[20:01] <lego> Much better.
[20:01] <andreas_> I have just partitioned a hadd extention, But it wont mount, when i try to open it i get "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000"
[20:01] <sebbar> can anybody tell me when kubuntu gutsy for ps3 will be out? according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_3 right now there's only a feisty version...
[20:03] <pennette> ardchoille: maybe is more clear this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45398/
[20:03] <ardchoille> pennette: Wouldn't that need @setGlobal and @exec on two diff lines?
[20:04] <ardchoille> pennette: Ah, ok. @exec(@global(variable_name))
[20:05] <pennette> ardchoille: :) now i try
[20:05] <pennette> thank
[20:05] <ardchoille> yw
[20:06] <ardchoille> pennette: http://www.kde-apps.org  has a kommander scripts section
[20:06] <lego> Thank you all.  Be back later,
[20:07] <lego> Running updates now.
[20:07] <pennette> ardchoille: :) i am bit tired :) i have solved.... @exec(@TreeWidget4.selection)
[20:07] <ardchoille> pennette: That' will work, but it doesn't use the global variable.
[20:09] <DarthFrogger> Hello.
[20:09] <jpatrick> !hello | DarthFrogger
[20:09] <ubotu> DarthFrogger: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[20:10] <DarthFrogger> Has anyone managed to get kdm-kde4 to install?  From the KDE4 RC1.
[20:10] <ubuntu__> heh
[20:11] <ubuntu__> I'm trying to install 7.10 for 64, and I'm getting an error message at 29%
[20:11] <_al_> valid installation media?
[20:11] <genii> The nature of the error message may be enlightening
[20:12] <ubuntu__> it gives a bunch of possible causes...I'll tell you what it is when I get back to 29%
[20:12] <ubuntu__> I'm trying to do the OEM install this time, maybe that'll fix it
[20:12]  * genii sips a coffee and thinks about MD5 sums
[20:12] <stdin> DarthFrogger: having problems?
[20:13] <DarthFrogger> stdin: Yes.  dpkg reports the post-install script throws an error.
[20:13] <stdin> DarthFrogger: post the log to pastebin so we can see
[20:13] <ubuntu__> This particular error is often due to a faulty CD/DVD disk or drive, or a faulty hard disk.  It may help to clean the CD/DVD, to burn the CD/DVD at a lower speed....etc
[20:14] <DarthFrogger> stdin: pastebin?
[20:14] <stdin> !paste
[20:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:14] <ubuntu__> it's a brand new hard drive, and I just burned the disk last night
[20:14] <ScorpKing> dpkg error - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45397
[20:14]  * ScorpKing looks a genii.. >.> 
[20:14] <DarthFrogger> Ah.  Thanks.
[20:16]  * genii looks at ScorpKing
[20:16] <ScorpKing> hehe.
[20:17] <ubuntu__> anyone?
[20:18] <genii> ScorpKing: did you try to purge it and reinstall?
[20:19] <genii> (altho it looks like the configuration script is broken)
[20:19] <ScorpKing> did not purge it yet.
[20:21] <genii> ScorpKing: Hmm. i think first i would try rm the cupsys file in /var/cache/apt/archives, then do sudo apt-get install cupsys
[20:21] <ScorpKing> genii: when i purge it i get this - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45404/ - is it safe to carry on?
[20:22] <genii> lemme look
[20:22] <kid_confucius> any clue how i install nvidia graphics on kubuntu
[20:22] <kid_confucius> can i use envy on kubuntu?
[20:23] <genii> ScorpKing: Looks like if you do the step i just outlined it may work
[20:23] <ScorpKing> doing it now
[20:23] <stdin> kid_confucius: if you have gutsy, just use the restricted drivers manager
[20:23] <kid_confucius> i did
[20:24] <kid_confucius> seems like its not working..
[20:24] <genii> Working, back and forth from computer.. have some patience for lag :)
[20:24] <ScorpKing> genii: rm does not fix it
[20:24] <stdin> what part isn't ?
[20:24] <kid_confucius> i cant even get resoultion
[20:25] <kid_confucius> its stiuck on 1024x768
[20:25] <kid_confucius> i cant change it
[20:25] <stdin> !resolution
[20:25] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:25] <genii> ScorpKing: try: sudo apt-get install -f cupsys
[20:25] <stdin> you have the driver, don't try to install another over it
[20:25] <kid_confucius> what u mean
[20:26] <ScorpKing> genii: same problem
[20:26] <kid_confucius> was  i suoppose to download the drivers, but i thought the restrct driver does it for you
[20:26] <genii> ScorpKing: It says the other packages are broken?
[20:26] <stdin> kid_confucius: if you installed the driver from the restricted manager you have it now, it'll break if you try to install something over it
[20:27] <kid_confucius> ohhhh
[20:27] <kid_confucius> iseee
[20:27] <kid_confucius> kk
[20:27] <ScorpKing> genii: no. just this - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45397/
[20:27] <kid_confucius> well how do i get it my nvidia setting tools going
[20:28] <genii> looking
[20:28] <ScorpKing> genii: <trappist> ScorpKing: looks like bad update-rc.d usage in the postinst script.  look in /var/lib/dpkg/info for the postinst script and get rid of (or fix!) the update-rc.d line
[20:28] <stdin> kid_confucius: should be in the kmenu, probably under settings
[20:28] <ScorpKing> i can't find anything related to that
[20:28] <stdin> kid_confucius: if not the command is usr/bin/nvidia-settings (i think)
[20:29] <freqmod_nx> *Whine* kubuntu and kde4rc1 and okular doesn't work.  gives undefined symbol
[20:29] <kid_confucius> kk
[20:29]  * freqmod_nx sorry, he shouldn't click enter yet, he is soon leaving irc
[20:30] <stdin> freqmod_nx: make sure you removed all old beta packages first
[20:30] <freqmod_nx> i tried
[20:30] <kid_confucius> usr/bin/nvidia-setting
[20:30] <kid_confucius> lol
[20:30] <kid_confucius> sry
[20:30] <freqmod_nx> i removed kde4base*
[20:30] <genii> ScorpKing: man update-rc.d tells me default way to call is: update-rc.d appname defaults
[20:31] <ScorpKing> hmm.. let me try that
[20:32] <bryan__> hey guys i need help please
[20:32] <bryan__> i just installed gutsy kubuntu and i cant get my wifi to work
[20:32] <bryan__> any tips?
[20:33] <ScorpKing> !wifi
[20:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:33] <genii> ScorpKing: I have on my 7.04 box, the file /var/lib/dpkg/info/cupsys.postinst open to the update-rc.d line but my brain is too fuzzy to process it
[20:33] <bryan__> thanx ubotu
[20:34] <ScorpKing> genii: thanks. looking..
[20:35] <genii> ScorpKing: A light bulb sort of just went off. Maybe touch the file /etc/init.d/cupsys if it does not exist right now
[20:36] <ScorpKing> it is there.
[20:36] <ScorpKing> if i remove it it complains
[20:36] <ardchoille> !thanks | bryan__
[20:36] <ubotu> bryan__: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[20:36] <genii> (I had this error on another install where it needed it even tho the startup system is changed)
[20:38] <genii> scorpking perhaps add the -f switch in the postinst file
[20:38] <genii> (force)
[20:39] <ScorpKing> oh ok. still trying to see what is going on.
[20:40] <genii> Altho i think -f may be for removal option only.
[20:40] <phoenix__> slt
[20:40] <phoenix__> hello
[20:41] <genii> ScorpKing: Also my file may differ greatly from yours
[20:42] <genii> work, af
[20:42] <genii> afk also
[20:42] <venik> Can anyone tell me how to change the location of the Strigi  (desktop search engine) index?
[20:42] <ScorpKing> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45406/ when ur back.
[20:50] <phoenix__> slt
[20:50] <Fraggy4> Need help with python-numeric installation
[20:51] <qolo> slut
[20:51] <Fraggy4> ardchoile
[20:51] <Fraggy4> ardchoille
[20:51] <phoenix__> comment ça va?
[20:51] <virnik> hi there
[20:52] <virnik> can some experienced user or developer help me out? i got one generic problem, which should not be on ubuntu or kubuntu
[20:52] <virnik> I have bought http://www.avermedia.com/cgi-bin/support_driverbympdpro.asp?category=TV%20USB%20Box%20/%20Pendrive&category2=Hybrid&proname=193&modelno=A828
[20:52] <virnik> and from the papers it seems it works ok in linux
[20:52] <virnik> but
[20:52] <virnik> one big problem
[20:52] <Fraggy4> !spanish|phoenix
[20:52] <ubotu> phoenix: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[20:53] <virnik> i have downloaded drivers from avermedia.com
[20:53] <virnik> extracted
[20:53] <virnik> and compiled
[20:53] <Fraggy4> virnik: stop
[20:53] <virnik> after insmod, kernel respond with "Unknown module"
[20:53] <virnik> you know what I mean
[20:53] <Fraggy4> stop
[20:53] <virnik> ok
[20:53] <Fraggy4> !paste| virnik
[20:53] <ubotu> virnik: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:53] <phoenix__> do you speak french?
[20:53] <virnik> no
[20:54] <virnik> czech, slovak, and english
[20:54] <Fraggy4> !french| phoenix__
[20:54] <ubotu> phoenix__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:54] <virnik> Fraggy4: I have no long texts
[20:54] <Fraggy4> virnik: everything you were typing
[20:54] <phoenix__> merci ubotu
[20:54] <Fraggy4> your welcome phoenix
[20:54] <virnik> Fraggy4: do somebody read that, on pastebin?
[20:54] <virnik> cos I need help, really
[20:54] <Fraggy4> yes
[20:54] <Fraggy4> you post the url
[20:54] <virnik> oki, I will post it there
[20:55] <Fraggy4> I need help, but I know my way around the channel
[20:56] <Fraggy4> Need help with python-numeric installation
[20:57] <Fraggy4> Need help with python-numeric installation
[20:59] <JohnnyBlazer> i need help please
[21:00] <Fraggy4> !ask| JohnnyBlazer
[21:00] <ubotu> JohnnyBlazer: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:01] <JohnnyBlazer> i installed rageircd using adept manager, and it failed, i cannot unistall the package, reinstall it, or use apt-get or adept manager without errors. any help is apppreciated.
[21:01] <ardchoille> Fraggy4: Did you need me for something?
[21:01] <Fraggy4> I get a dependency not satisfied: python when I try and install python-numeric
[21:02] <Fraggy4> Johnny: did you try sudo apt-get purge rageircd
[21:02] <Fraggy4> ardchoille: I get a dependency not satisfied: python when I try and install python-numeric
[21:02] <JohnnyBlazer> didnt try that give me a moment
[21:02] <ardchoille> Fraggy4: are you installing python-numeric from the repos?
[21:02] <Fraggy4> Johnny: tell me what it wants to remove
[21:02] <Fraggy4> ardchoille: cant
[21:02] <JohnnyBlazer> rageircd
[21:02] <JohnnyBlazer> i tried to
[21:02] <Fraggy4> I just installed gutsy
[21:02] <JohnnyBlazer> error commiting changes
[21:02] <Fraggy4> and my wireless card wont work
[21:02] <JohnnyBlazer> the updates wont even install
[21:03] <ardchoille> Fraggy4: python-numeric is in the repos: sudo apt-get install python-numeric
[21:03] <ardchoille> Oh, ok. Well, I can't help you, sorry
[21:03] <Fraggy4> I'm trying to install Wifi-radar
[21:03] <max_> hi everyone! need emergency help setting up lirc at built-in SIR on Acer Ferrari 4000
[21:03] <max_> can anyone help?
[21:04] <virnik> OK, to my problem, here it is. Can somebody look on this, and tell me how to make it work? PLEASE. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45410/
[21:04] <JohnnyBlazer> Fraggy4: it says invalid operation purge
[21:04] <Fraggy4> Hmmm....
[21:05] <virnik> JohnnyBlazer: apt-get remove package --purge must work
[21:05] <max_> can anyone help?
[21:05] <Fraggy4> johnny: what did you type?
[21:05] <JohnnyBlazer> sudo apt-get purge rageircd
[21:05] <Fraggy4> hmm
[21:05] <virnik> JohnnyBlazer: it is wrong syntax
[21:05] <Fraggy4> virnik: no
[21:05] <virnik> JohnnyBlazer: use apt-get remove rageircd --purge
[21:06] <JohnnyBlazer> i have to use sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:06] <Fraggy4> try it without the purge first
[21:06] <virnik> Fraggy4: yes, it is wrong
[21:06] <JohnnyBlazer> to install the updates
[21:06] <JohnnyBlazer> ok
[21:06] <Fraggy4> virnik: I always use sudo apt-get purge
[21:06] <virnik> can somebody look on my problem?
[21:06] <virnik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45410/
[21:06] <virnik> Fraggy4: i think this option is no longer supported by apt
[21:06] <ScorpKing> virnik: no idea
[21:07] <Fraggy4> virnik: it is
[21:07] <Fraggy4> I just used it 2 minutes ago
[21:07] <JohnnyBlazer> Fraggy4, what is your version?
[21:07] <Fraggy4> Scorpking: could you help me with mine?
[21:07] <Fraggy4> Gutsy
[21:07] <ScorpKing> !wifi
[21:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:08] <iceEra> Help me i cannot REMOVE WINE
[21:08] <JohnnyBlazer> i have 7.04
[21:08] <Fraggy4> iceEra: "sudo apt-get purge wine"
[21:08] <max_> PLEASE HELP!!!
[21:08] <Fraggy4> Johnny: I upgraded yesterday
[21:08] <Fraggy4> It works in feisty too
[21:08] <JohnnyBlazer> ok
[21:09] <ScorpKing> max_: ask in #ubuntu and #linux as well
[21:09] <JohnnyBlazer> nope invalid operation
[21:10] <iceEra> It says that i have nothing to remove.. But Wine is still in the menu..:S What to do?
[21:10] <JohnnyBlazer> virnik's way worked
[21:10] <JohnnyBlazer> oh wait
[21:10] <Fraggy4> virnik: you have KDE right?
[21:11] <kubuntu4me> hello. when a removable usb device is connected to the machine, no window pops up in kde. is that a per user setting or system wide.dmesg shows the device and the filesystem is recognized with gparted
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> kubuntu4me: does dmesg show it mounted?
[21:11] <Fraggy4> iceEra: right click on the menu and hit edit menu
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> does "mount" show it?
[21:12] <iceEra> oki ty
[21:12] <kubuntu4me> no it is not mounted nosrednaekim
[21:13] <iceEra> and when i run steam whit crossover i get belongs to Wine :S plz say it in private message:)=
[21:14] <nosrednaekim> kubuntu4me: can you mount it manually? try "sudo mount /dev/<device name from dmesg> /mnt"
[21:15] <kubuntu4me> nosrednaekim: udevinfo -a -n /dev/sdg shows everything about it, ok mounting now
[21:15] <ScorpKing> iceEra: ask in #winehq
[21:16] <virnik> Fraggy4: yes
[21:16] <kyled185> ack how do I clear programs that failed to install from apt?
[21:16] <kubuntu4me> nosrednaekim: yes it mounted fine. (it is fat32 btw)
[21:16] <virnik> kubuntu4me: it is normal in gutsy. automounter does not react on usb mass storage. it is bug
[21:16] <Fraggy4> virnik: did you google linux drivers for your product?
[21:16] <virnik> Fraggy4: sure i did
[21:16] <Fraggy4> virnik: it does that on mine
[21:17] <virnik> i am not lame, it is my job to work in linux, make routers, and so on
[21:17] <Fraggy4> It opens a window when I plug in a flash drive
[21:17] <virnik> Fraggy4: do you have i386?
[21:17] <Fraggy4> yea
[21:17] <virnik> Fraggy4: it did feisty
[21:17] <virnik> not gutsy
[21:17] <Fraggy4> it did the same thing in feisty
[21:17] <Fraggy4> its a feature
[21:17] <Fraggy4> not a bug
[21:17] <virnik> and i have gutsy and 64b
[21:18] <Fraggy4> virnik: that's why
[21:18] <virnik> Fraggy4: bug is, that it is not automounting theese drives
[21:18] <nosrednaekim> kubuntu4me: huh...you could try using the disks and filesystems manager to automount it.
[21:18] <virnik> feisty worked fine
[21:18] <Fraggy4> virnik: the driver is most likely for i386
[21:18] <Fraggy4> oh
[21:18] <Fraggy4> then
[21:18] <Fraggy4> switch back to feisty
[21:18] <virnik> Fraggy4: argh, I am speaking about automounter!
[21:18] <virnik> that driver have both variants
[21:19] <Fraggy4> w/e
[21:19] <ScorpKing> !enter
[21:19] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:19] <virnik> Fraggy4: never...i like gutsy
[21:19] <nosrednaekim> virnik: whats the problem?
[21:19] <virnik> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45410/
[21:20] <kubuntu4me> nosrednaekim: but how do i get the window back that pops up when the usb media is inserted?
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> kubuntu4me: thats ussualy a hit-or miss
[21:20] <kyled185> I tried to install the kde4 RC1 as posted in the topic, now apt is messed up with tons of unmet dependencies and is failing to install when the dependencies are explicitly specified.  Now I can't even apt-get upgrade is there a way to fix this?
[21:21] <sam_> hi
[21:21] <sam_> oops
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> virnik: look to me like a driver conflict, do you have two version of that driver in your kernel?
[21:22] <Some_Person> thats better
[21:22] <Ayabara> I installed picasa using wine, but how do I start the application now?
[21:22] <Ayabara> I'm kinda new to wine :-)
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> virnik: or that module is for a kernel that is too new
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> !wine
[21:22] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[21:22] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: go to #winehq
[21:23] <Some_Person> What is the email client for KDE?
[21:23] <virnik> nosrednaekim: no
[21:23] <Fraggy4> !email
[21:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> Some_Person: kmail
[21:23] <Lapatik> kmail.
[21:23] <virnik> I have not
[21:23] <Some_Person> thanks
[21:23] <virnik> nosrednaekim: I have latest one
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> virnik: latest kernel?
[21:23] <virnik> Some_Person: KMail
[21:23] <virnik> nosrednaekim: latest distro kernel
[21:24] <virnik> Linux Crusader 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:24] <nosrednaekim> virnik: yeah.but thats not the newest kernel.... anyway, thats some serious kernel stuff that I have no clue about. sorry.
[21:24] <nosrednaekim> virnik: try posting on the ubuntu forums
[21:24] <virnik> nosrednaekim: I will try, thanks
[21:28] <ZeBarbu> Hello
[21:29] <ZeBarbu> Does anybody managed to make composition work in the lastest KDE4 packages?
[21:29] <gauss_> Hi :)
[21:29] <Zombocom> does anybody managed?
[21:30] <ZeBarbu> Zombocom: hum, my english is not quite good, isn't it? :)
[21:30] <Zombocom> oh sorry, I thought you were a native speaker who was trying to sound cool
[21:31] <ZeBarbu> not at all!
[21:31] <Zombocom> my apologies for jumping to a concluions
[21:31] <Zombocom> oops
[21:31] <Zombocom> conclusion
[21:31] <gauss_> Does anyone by chance know of any software that would load up a picture from the web, save it as say PIC001.jpg, then reload t seconds later and repeat, saving it as PIC002.jpg, etc. etc..?
[21:31] <Fraggy4> !offtopic| Zombocom ZeBarbu
[21:31] <ubotu> Zombocom ZeBarbu: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[21:32] <CPrgmSwR2> Who in here has an ATI card?
[21:32] <max_> CPrgmSwR2: me
[21:33] <Zombocom> I didn't install kubuntu with swap space, but I created a partition for swapping, and now wish to use it for swap, how do I do so
[21:33] <CPrgmSwR2> Do you think they are improving from 8.40 to catalyst 7.11?
[21:33] <Some_Person> How do I put a trash icon on my desktop?
[21:33] <andreas_> I have just partitioned a hadd extention, But it wont mount, when i try to open it i get "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000".
[21:33] <Fraggy4> Some Person: it already is there
[21:34] <Fraggy4> Some_Person: right side of the taskbar
[21:34] <Some_Person> No, on my desktop
[21:34] <Fraggy4> you can't
[21:34] <Some_Person> Why not?
[21:34] <Zombocom> hold on some_person
[21:34] <Zombocom> I'll try to do it
[21:35] <Zombocom> I remember finding the folder once I added my linux partition in windows
[21:36] <Zombocom> so I think it's possible
[21:36] <Fraggy4> ScorKing: I need help with python-support and python-gtk2
[21:36] <Fraggy4> ScorpKing: I need help with python-support and python-gtk2
[21:36] <Zombocom> however, I think the safest bet is to keep it on the taskbar
[21:37] <ScorpKing> Fraggy4: not sure i can help. what's wrong though?
[21:37] <Zombocom> how do I mount additional swap space?
[21:37] <Zombocom> or new swap space?
[21:37] <ScorpKing> ah. :)
[21:38] <Fraggy4> ScorpKing: python-support is already installed, but python-gtk2 gdebi install says that it's not and the dependency for it is not satisiable
[21:38] <ScorpKing> Zombocom: you can make a loopback image and mount it as swap.
[21:38] <andreas_> why do i get "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000" when i try to mount my hdd??
[21:38] <Zombocom> scorpking: is that if I haven't had swap before?
[21:38] <ScorpKing> Fraggy4: no idea. sorry.
[21:38] <s4xxon> hello, could someone tell me a good application like magenta ?
[21:39] <sourcemaker_> SAP Developers here?
[21:39] <Some_Person> nevermind, Zombocom
[21:39] <Some_Person> i found it on the forums
[21:39] <Fraggy4> python-support is already installed, but python-gtk2 gdebi install says that it's not and the dependency for it is not satisiable
[21:39] <ScorpKing> Zombocom: it does not matter but it will only fix the problem until you reboot.
[21:39] <Zombocom> sorry Some_person
[21:39] <Some_Person> thats ok
[21:39] <ScorpKing> andreas_: google and look on the forums.
[21:39] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i install jre 1.5
[21:39] <Fraggy4> !java
[21:39] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[21:39] <andreas_> ScorpKing: Have allready done that. Dont get any further.
[21:40] <Zombocom> scorpking: dangint I have a good swap partition
[21:40] <ScorpKing> andreas_: heh. it's seems lika a common problem. ask in #ubuntu as well.
[21:40] <Fraggy4> python-support is already installed, but python-gtk2 gdebi install says that it's not and the dependency for it is not satisiable
[21:40] <andreas_> ScorpKing: Thx
[21:40] <s4xxon> or a greek-english dictionar
[21:41] <ScorpKing> Zombocom: you can boot from the livecd and resize it.
[21:41] <Some_Person> Are any games supposed to come with KDE?
[21:41] <Fraggy4> !google| s4xxon
[21:41] <ubotu> s4xxon: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[21:41] <ScorpKing> Some_Person: not by default
[21:41] <Some_Person> Is there a basic games package (like gnome-games for GNOME)?
[21:42] <ScorpKing> s4xxon: try stardict
[21:42] <Zombocom> ScorpKing: I can't get Qparted in normal installed kubuntu?
[21:42] <s4xxon> i will check for it
[21:42] <ScorpKing> Zombocom: partitions wont resize if they are mounted
[21:43] <ScorpKing> Some_Person: yes. run sudo aptutide search games | grep kde and see what is there
[21:43] <Zombocom> ScorpKing: I already have the partition made, I just need linux to use it as swap
[21:43] <Some_Person> thanks
[21:43] <Zombocom> Some_person: I reccomend armagetron
[21:43] <Some_Person> in case you cant realize, im a GNOME user trying out KDE
[21:44] <Zombocom> Some_person I tried gnome but couldn't get into it
[21:44] <ScorpKing> Zombocom: oh i see. sudo mkswap /dev/<partition> and then add a entry in /etc/fstab for it
[21:44] <Some_Person> I've been using GNOME for years
[21:44] <Some_Person> It's time I tried out KDE
[21:44] <ScorpKing> nice :D
[21:44] <ScorpKing> welocome to KDE
[21:44] <ScorpKing> bah. welcome*
[21:44] <Some_Person> thanks ScorpKing
[21:45] <Some_Person> What I did was install kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu system, and i made KDE use a different desktop folder, and i removed the KDE apps from GNOME and vice versa
[21:46] <ScorpKing> hmm.. no need to do that
[21:46] <ScorpKing> kde apps will run in gnome and vice versa
[21:47] <Some_Person> i did that because with both sets of apps together, the menus were very crowded
[21:47] <Some_Person> i know that
[21:49] <plb209> Is it possible to install/check out KDE4 on the Kubuntu livecd?
[21:49] <Zombocom> oh crap
[21:49] <Zombocom> where do I change my keyboard settings
[21:49] <BadSneakers> it'd take a lot of ram I'd imagine
[21:49] <Zombocom> the super key is missing
[21:49] <ardchoille> plb209: See the channel topic
[21:49] <Zombocom> I mean, it doesn't work
[21:49] <plb209> ardchoille: I've read the page already
[21:50] <BadSneakers> Zombocom  there are some livecds that already incorporate kde4
[21:50] <plb209> I get broken package problems
[21:50] <Zombocom> badsneakers I didn't ask the question plb 209 did
[21:50] <BadSneakers> Zombocom   oh, yeah, sorry.
[21:50] <Zombocom> BadSneakers no problem
[21:51] <gauss_> Does anyone by chance know of any software that would load up a picture from the web, save it as say PIC001.jpg, then reload t seconds later and repeat, saving it as PIC002.jpg, etc. etc..?
[21:51] <ardchoille> plb209: You can install things in the livecd, but they'll be gone once you reboot/shutdown
[21:51] <plb209> ardchoille: I know
[21:51] <plb209> ardchoille: I just wanted to try out the DE in a familiar distro before I bothered installing it on my Gentoo box
[21:51] <Zombocom> my super/windows key isn't doing anything
[21:51] <ardchoille> plb209: Ah, smart idea
[21:51] <Zombocom> what do I do
[21:51] <BadSneakers> plb209  it really doesn't look any different in the default
[21:51] <Some_Person> How come when I put .desktop links in a folder, they show up in Dolphin with the .desktop suffix
[21:52] <Zombocom> some_person I have the same problem
[21:52] <plb209> BadSneakers: it's more just a curiosity than anything else
[21:52] <plb209> I run Fluxbox now
[21:52] <ardchoille> fluxbox is awesome
[21:52] <plb209> yeah
[21:52] <plb209> agreed
[21:52] <Zombocom> some_person you're talking about  desktop themes?
[21:53] <Zombocom> oh no, shortcuts
[21:53] <plb209> but I figured KDE4 had to cut down on some of the bloat/problems that drove me away from it to begin with
[21:53] <Zombocom> my bad
[21:53] <BadSneakers> plb209  then maybe kde4's version of kde-core you'd like ?
[21:53]  * plb209 shrugs
[21:53] <balint> hi there, i have a pretty noob question, how can i install flashplayer 8 on firefox? i extracted the tar.gz but i cant remember how can i install it from terminal. i used linux very long time ago, and forgot how to work in terminal :$
[21:53] <plb209> I just wanted to check it all out before installing everything [Gentoo requires me to compile everything]
[21:53] <Some_Person> Is there a way to make them show their name instead of the filename
[21:53] <plb209> balint: go for flash player 9
[21:53] <balint> than 9, but how?
[21:54] <balint> why doesnt it install itself when i clcik on the shell script?
[21:54] <plb209> try "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" in the terminal
[21:54] <Zombocom> balint do you have kubuntu 64 bit?
[21:54] <ScorpKing> nite guys.
[21:55] <balint> no, i have normal , but its the old edgy 6.10...
[21:55] <balint> but my cpu is 64 bit amd
[21:56] <BadSneakers> plb209  I saw a kde4 live cd the other day based on another linux version and it was AWFUL
[21:56] <Zombocom> can anyone help me with my keyboard issue?
[21:56] <plb209> BadSneakers: that's exactly why I wanted to try it with a known good distro
[21:56] <BadSneakers> plb209   i was looking for it, but I can't find it.  And it was AWFUL
[21:56] <plb209> awful because of the distro or because of KDE4
[21:57] <plb209> and which KDE4 was it?
[21:57] <plb209> cause RC1 just came out
[21:57] <mark__> hello, i have a question about wget, where should i ask it?
[21:57] <BadSneakers> plb209  it was hot off the press when I found it.  and it wasn't ubuntu based
[21:57] <plb209> was it yesterday or today?
[21:58] <plb209> or even earlier
[21:58] <geos> suse?
[21:58] <plb209> yes, that's the one I saw
[21:58] <BadSneakers> plb209  I rand the cdr I made thru the shredder about 30 minutes after I booted it.
[21:58] <plb209> I wanted to see if I could do it with kubuntu first
[21:58] <geos> I tried it too
[21:58] <plb209> the RC1 or one of hte betas?
[21:58] <geos> rc1
[21:58] <plb209> how was it?
[21:59] <geos> works better than on my gutsy
[21:59] <plb209> hm
[21:59] <BadSneakers> plb209  I really think and hope that it was the underlying linux version I hated.
[21:59] <plb209> lol
[21:59] <plb209> thanks for the info everyone
[21:59] <plb209> I'm gonna go restart back into Gentoo
[22:00] <plb209> [although I'm really tempted to install Kubuntu thanks to this live cd]
[22:00] <BadSneakers> plb209 it was opensuse
[22:00] <CPrgmSwR2> plb209: i was a gentoo user
[22:00] <plb209> CPrgmSwR2: why was
[22:00] <CPrgmSwR2> Because I got tired of waiting for everything to install for 1
[22:00] <BadSneakers> plb209 http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/
[22:00] <geos> yes it was opensuse
[22:00] <BadSneakers> plb209  you'll hate that
[22:00] <plb209> yeah, I've seen that link
[22:00] <CPrgmSwR2> my gentoo system corrupted itself while trying out kde4
[22:00] <plb209> eep
[22:01] <plb209> fn
[22:01] <plb209> fun*
[22:01] <BadSneakers> gentoo   its kinda expected
[22:01] <plb209> anyway, I'm gonna go reboot now, thanks
[22:01] <plb209> yeah
[22:01] <plb209> I haven't had a problem with this install yet
[22:01] <CPrgmSwR2> So I figured that if I was going to have to wait another 3 days to have my gentoo system back... that I would go to kubuntu where you can install a system in 1hour and be done with it
[22:02] <CPrgmSwR2> I will admit that I was using kde4 for a month or 2 before it happened though
[22:03] <BadSneakers> install and configure to taste in an hour
[22:03] <Zombocom> where can I get info on mounted swap partitions?
[22:03] <Zombocom> or general info
[22:04] <Zombocom> the filesystem info
[22:04] <Zombocom> (UUID)
[22:04] <s4xxon> ise there any good dictionary for kde that supports also greek language ?
[22:04] <NetSKaVeN> hell-o!
[22:09]  * genii sips some coffee
[22:10] <NetSKaVeN> anyone tried kde4 rc1 in kubuntu?
[22:10] <Zombocom> can anyone help me
[22:10] <Zombocom> how do I reinstall my keyboarD?
[22:10] <Zombocom> the windows/super key isn't working
[22:11] <IAmAi> Hello
[22:11] <Zombocom> hello
[22:11] <geos> NetSKaVeN: yes
[22:12] <NetSKaVeN> geos: is it working ok?
[22:12] <IAmAi> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to eject the CD drive while running Kubuntu live?
[22:12] <IAmAi> I need to burn a CD.
[22:12] <geos> not really
[22:12] <IAmAi> Damn
[22:12] <geos> it works but I can't move widgets
[22:13] <geos> There's no start menu
[22:13] <NetSKaVeN> geos: the same problem here then
[22:14] <geos> stdin said last night that this bugs are known
[22:15] <geos> I'm waiting for the new kitchensync...
[22:16] <NetSKaVeN> I wanna work with kde4, but now it isn't usable
[22:16] <fregl> NetSKaVeN: you could get the svn version
[22:17] <NetSKaVeN> fregl: svn is not Kubuntu's KDE 4
[22:18] <fregl> NetSKaVeN: yes, but the kubuntu packages are not that heavily patched, are they?
[22:18] <fregl> not yet at least
[22:18] <theunixgeek> Hello. I'm following the osdev Bare Bones tutorial for writing a simple kernel. http://www.osdev.org/wiki/Bare_bones I'm a complete noob at this, so please don't assume I know all the terminology you guys do. I'd like to be able to boot the kernel shown in the tutorial in either Bochs or QEMU. How would I go about this?
[22:19] <fregl> NetSKaVeN: of course it's more work, but to actually report bugs it would be pretty cool to have the latest kde4 running
[22:20] <NetSKaVeN> fregl: yeah, I understand that
[22:20] <NetSKaVeN> but I can't recompile it every day
[22:20] <NetSKaVeN> slow machine and little free time
[22:31] <jussi01> have the kde4 rc1 packages hit gutsy backports yet?
[22:33] <jussi01> !adeptfix
[22:33] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:34] <blizzzek> bye
[22:38] <jgg74> wenas
[22:39] <jgg74> me h puesto el kubuntu 7.10 y el kopete me da el error la aplicacion fallo y provoco la señal 11
[22:39] <jussi01> !es | jgg74
[22:39] <ubotu> jgg74: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[22:39] <jgg74> gracias
[22:39] <jussi01> :)
[22:40] <Vermux> what is the difference between the file in /home/User/.bashrc  and /etc/skel/.bashrc???
[22:41] <Vermux> anyone?
[22:41] <jussi01> Vermux: I dont know.
[22:42] <jussi01> Vermux: its pretty dead in here atm
[22:42] <Vermux> atm?
[22:42] <jussi01> Vermux: but the one in the home dir is probably a user writable file
[22:42] <jussi01> Vermux: at the moment
[22:42] <Vermux> ok
[22:43] <jussi01> where as the /etc one is probably not..
[22:44] <ardchoille> Vermux: /home/user/.bashrc is the bashrc file used by that user (writeable by that user). /etc/skel/.bashrc is the file used as a template when a new user account is created (writeable by root only)
[22:44] <Vermux> ardchoille: thanks
[22:46] <ardchoille> yw
[22:47] <felipearj> ola
[22:49] <mushroomblue> mmkay. after the basic instructions to install RC1 of KDE4 are finished, what other -kde4 packages can I install? are there some that I should stay away from?
[22:50] <mushroomblue> cos I'm seeing lots of overlapping files when trying to install packages.
[22:57] <AXAUser101> need help with python-gtk2
[22:58] <Fraggy4> need help with python-gtk2
[22:59] <Fraggy4> Could someone help me fix python-gtk2? I have no inernet on my kubuntu laptop and I'm installing the python-gtk2.deb file. It says I need python-support, but I already have it
[23:05] <Fraggy4> Could someone help me fix python-gtk2? I have no inernet on my kubuntu laptop and I'm installing the python-gtk2.deb file. It says I need python-support, but I already have it
[23:09] <JohnnyBlazer> how do i install unrar into ark?
[23:09] <ardchoille> !rar
[23:09] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[23:10] <JohnnyBlazer> is that for ark?
[23:11] <BejeweledPudenda> I want to install k9copy v. 1.2.0 -- how can I do that?  debian-multimedia respository has broken dependenicies.
[23:11] <BejeweledPudenda> I want to install k9copy v. 1.2.0 -- how can I do that?
[23:11] <Fraggy4> !repeat| BejeweledPudenda
[23:11] <ubotu> BejeweledPudenda: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[23:11] <BejeweledPudenda> not repeated
[23:12] <BejeweledPudenda> differently worded
[23:12] <Fraggy4> !repeat| BejeweledPudenda
[23:12] <ubotu> BejeweledPudenda: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[23:12] <BejeweledPudenda> ubotu: you're repeating yourself
[23:13] <Fraggy4> !repeat| BejeweledPudenda
[23:13] <ubotu> BejeweledPudenda: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[23:13] <Greenery> Fraggy4: dont spam ubot pls
[23:13] <Fraggy4> yes sir!
[23:14] <Fraggy4> Greenery: could you help me?
[23:14] <kgx> hey..i need to recussively count the number of lines in all the files in a directory, is there a quick way to do this?
[23:14] <BejeweledPudenda> back to my question now:  I want to install k9copy v. 1.2.0 -- how can I do that?
[23:15] <Fraggy4> Bejewled: sudo apt-get k9copy
[23:15] <Fraggy4> Bejewled: sudo apt-get install k9copy
[23:15] <BejeweledPudenda> Fraggy4: gutsy has version 1.1.3
[23:15] <Greenery> Fraggy4: sorry i couldn't
[23:15] <BejeweledPudenda> I need 1.2.0
[23:15] <Fraggy4> Bejewled: then your screwed
[23:15] <Fraggy4> jk
[23:15] <Fraggy4> !google| Bejeweled
[23:15] <ubotu> Bejeweled: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[23:16] <Fraggy4> durh
[23:17] <Minataku> Bejeweled: You could try compiling it
[23:17] <Minataku> !compile
[23:17] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[23:19] <Fraggy4> Minataku: could you also help me?
[23:19] <Minataku> Maybe
[23:19] <Minataku> What's wrong?
[23:19] <Fraggy4> I cant get python-gtk2 to install, it says it's missing python-support, but it is already instaleld
[23:19] <Fraggy4> I'm installing it from a deb file
[23:19] <Fraggy4> I dont have internet on it
[23:20] <Minataku> There's your problem
[23:20] <Fraggy4> what do you mean?
[23:20] <Minataku> Don't mix things like that
[23:20] <Minataku> If it's a deb, IT'S NOT FOR *BUNTU
[23:20] <Fraggy4> Yeah it is...
[23:20] <Fraggy4> It's in the repos
[23:20] <Minataku> Oh, sorry
[23:20] <Minataku> Brainfart
[23:20] <Minataku> >.<
[23:20] <Fraggy4> I downloaded it from packages.ubuntu.org/whatever
[23:21] <Minataku> I was thinking of something else, sorry
[23:21] <Fraggy4> So anyway
[23:21] <Fraggy4> What do I do?
[23:21] <Minataku> Are you SURE it's installed? Is the version correct?
[23:21] <Fraggy4> positive
[23:21] <Fraggy4> everything is updated and brandnew
[23:21] <Fraggy4> once I get this instaleld then my internet should work
[23:23] <Fraggy4> minataku: ?
[23:24] <Minataku> Oh, sorry
[23:24] <Minataku> I'm not sure what's wrong, it shouldn't complain if it's installed
[23:24] <Fraggy4> grrrr
[23:25] <Fraggy4> What is the newest version of python-gtk2?
[23:25] <Fraggy4> could you check for me?
[23:27] <Fraggy4> MINATAKU!
[23:28] <Fraggy4> minataku: got it
[23:29] <Fraggy4> I downloaded the edgy deb instead and that worked
[23:30] <Minataku> Cool
[23:30] <Minataku> So the versions WERE wrong :3
[23:30] <Fraggy4> not really
[23:30] <Fraggy4> they were too new
[23:30] <Fraggy4> didnt work
[23:31] <Minataku> Heh
[23:32] <Minataku> I was still on the right track, though
[23:32] <Minataku> XD
[23:32] <Fraggy4> minataku: now the program wont work
[23:32] <Fraggy4> it wont scan for wireless routers
[23:32] <Minataku> :P
[23:33] <Fraggy4> know any good programs for that?
[23:37] <Fraggy4> minataku
[23:37] <Minataku> Oh
[23:37] <Minataku> Sorry, I'm in multiple channels
[23:37] <Minataku> Wireless Assistant
[23:37] <Fraggy4> I see that
[23:37] <Minataku> !info wlassistant
[23:37] <ubotu> wlassistant: User friendly KDE frontend for wireless network connection. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.7-2 (gutsy), package size 162 kB, installed size 688 kB
[23:38] <Fraggy4> already got it
[23:38] <Fraggy4> it doesnt work
[23:38] <Fraggy4> None of them work
[23:38] <Minataku> Then there's something lower down causing a problem
[23:38] <Minataku> Misconfiguration, unsupported hardware, something like that
[23:38] <Fraggy4> and I got Wifi radar on Feisty about 2 days ago and it worked fine
[23:38] <poppa> Does anybody know about upgrading feisty to gutsy?
[23:38] <Minataku> !upgrade
[23:38] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[23:39] <poppa> I tried that, but I can't get the instructions there to work.
[23:39] <poppa> Adept's repository management command crashes some installer,
[23:39] <poppa> and the update-manager -c command tells me there's nothing to
[23:39] <poppa> upgrade to.
[23:40] <chris_> i seem to have a bad dependency problem with kde 4 rc1 that i cant fix. everything depends on kde-icons-oxygen but that wont install because there's a few conflicting files merging into kde4multimedia-data. any ideas?
[23:40] <siflidhap> Howdy to you, pardner!  Yee-haw!  Did you get up on that.
[23:41] <WaltzingAlong> chris_: have you removed previous installs of kde4beta ?
[23:41] <chris_> i can't do anything but apt-get update
[23:41] <chris_> apt-get -f install tries to install kde-icons-oxygen which fails
[23:41] <WaltzingAlong> chris_: !pastebin the results of sudo aptitude -f install
[23:41] <WaltzingAlong> ah
[23:42] <poppa> To upgrade from feisty to gutsy, is it sufficient to replace "feisty" with "gutsy"
[23:42] <poppa> in sources.list?
[23:43] <chris_> WaltzingAlong, http://pastebin.com/ddd931d5
[23:43] <WaltzingAlong> poppa: one could do that though it is not the recommended 'kubuntu' way
[23:44] <poppa> WaltzingAlong: I have tried adept and update-manager both.  They both fail for me.
[23:44] <poppa> I don't want to screw anything up, but the only way I can get any progress is to
[23:44] <poppa> change sources.list.
[23:45] <WaltzingAlong> !brokenkde4 | chris_, may help to remove any pieces of kde4beta first
[23:45] <ubotu> chris_, may help to remove any pieces of kde4beta first: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[23:45] <WaltzingAlong> poppa: do-release-upgrade in konsole
[23:46] <poppa> WalzingAlong: The do-release-upgrade command says "current dist not found in meta-release-file"
[23:46] <poppa> "No new release found".
[23:47] <chris_> WaltzingAlong, that fails too, any ideas? http://pastebin.com/d3f1028e1
[23:47] <dente> everyone:sorry, why the addons of the other servers don't function
[23:47] <dente> ?
[23:47] <MilitantPotato> Hey all
[23:48] <WaltzingAlong> dente: what do you mean
[23:48] <WaltzingAlong> chris_: how about adding  kde-icons-oxygen to the list of items to be removed
[23:49] <chris_> WaltzingAlong, Package kde-icons-oxygen is not installed, so not removed
[23:49] <dente> waltzingalong: i connected at #fusion server and i had try to install the addons
[23:49] <dente> but it didn't work
[23:49] <dente> sorry for my english :(
[23:50] <WaltzingAlong> chris_: sudo aptitude               then use that to fix broken packages or ask some to be removed. if it were my system i would do that or fix the removal of some, knowing i will install others soon
[23:50] <WaltzingAlong> poppa: following the other way to dist-upgrade, through adept manager and the upgrade tool, how far does it get
[23:51] <poppa> Waltzing-along: In adept, when I start to update the repositories I get an installer crash,
[23:52] <poppa> telling me the list of servers is empty.
[23:52] <WaltzingAlong> poppa: otherwise http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3436057#poststop
[23:52] <dente> !list
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[23:53] <jeroenvrp> anyone tried to use kde4 as his/her default desktop?
[23:53] <WaltzingAlong> jeroenvrp: i have
[23:53] <jeroenvrp> WaltzingAlong: and, is it usable?
[23:54] <jeroenvrp> are kde3-apps, like amarok working normally?
[23:54] <WaltzingAlong> jeroenvrp: apps like amarok and koffice have their own release schedule
[23:54] <jeroenvrp> WaltzingAlong: yes I understand, but can they run without problems in kde4?
[23:55] <WaltzingAlong> jeroenvrp: you can install kde4rc1 alongside your kde 3.5.8 setup, then run some kde4rc1 apps or a full session; the full session is taking shape
[23:56] <poppa> WalzingAlong: That url does not work. Can you repeat it?
[23:56] <jeroenvrp> WaltzingAlong: but can you run kde3-applications while running kde4 as a full sesion?
[23:56] <WaltzingAlong> jeroenvrp: yes
[23:56] <jeroenvrp> ok
[23:56] <WaltzingAlong> poppa: otherwise http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3436057
[23:57] <jeroenvrp> and is kde full session free of crashes
[23:57] <jeroenvrp> so I can use it on a daily base
[23:57] <WaltzingAlong> jeroenvrp: honestly if you are asking the answer is no
[23:57] <jeroenvrp> WaltzingAlong: ok, thanks
[23:57] <WaltzingAlong> in my opinion anyway
[23:58] <jeroenvrp> WaltzingAlong: I mean less functionality is no problem for me, but crashes are annoying
[23:59] <WaltzingAlong> applications will still crash. i do not know about the entire session though