[03:09] <shirish> does anybody else have problems installing git-core new version?
[03:14] <pwnguin> yes
[03:14] <pwnguin> i already filed a bug
[03:15] <Hobbsee> bug #?
[03:15] <pwnguin> 164167
[03:16] <Hobbsee> bug  164167
[03:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 164167 in git-core "git-core fails to install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164167
[03:16] <Hobbsee> nice
[03:17] <pwnguin> i guess nobody wants ownership of git
[03:17] <pwnguin> or perhaps the recommended way to use git is to get git to get itself
[03:18] <shirish> pwnguin: confirmed it
[03:18] <Hobbsee> ah yes, debian knows about it
[03:18] <Hobbsee> those packages are all directly synced from debian
[03:22] <Hobbsee> looks like it only broke yesterday.  they should fix it
[03:23] <pwnguin> probably
[03:23] <pwnguin> but how do the kernel people get along?
[03:33] <pwnguin> what's the deal with jmicron IDE?
[03:33] <pwnguin> my roommate has utterly failed at ubuntu
[03:34] <RAOF> At one point the deal was that the chipset didn't actually have integrated IDE, and there was no support for the tacked-on IDE controller.  Is this still a problem with {Gutsy, Hardy} though?
[03:34] <pwnguin> we install it, and then reboot and grub errors
[03:34] <pwnguin> theres probably like eight errors hiding in here
[03:34] <pwnguin> he wants ubuntu on an ide drive and vista on sata
[03:35] <pwnguin> its def a problem for gutsy
[03:36] <pwnguin> the chipset has to have IDE, as thats the only reason its on the mobo
[03:36] <RAOF> Ooooh. Sounds tricky.
[03:36] <pwnguin> he made it work before
[03:36] <pwnguin> but now grub just gives error 25 on boot
[03:37]  * RAOF is clueless
[03:38] <pwnguin> the forums all have workarounds for cd drives on ide
[03:38] <pwnguin> which is good i guess, if you have an ide cdrom
[03:38] <pwnguin> its possible that grub doesn't suppor jmicron
[03:39] <pwnguin> as it only recieved linux support in like 2.6.17
[03:39] <RAOF> Surely grub doesn't *have* to support jmicron.  It's the bios that does?
[03:40] <pwnguin> got me
[03:40] <pwnguin> theres lots of "set the mode to ahci" or something
[03:40] <pwnguin> no such setting
[03:40]  * shirish remembers lot of hue & cry about Jmicron during Gutsy's time. 
[03:41] <pwnguin> RAOF: note that jmicron IS the tacked on IDE
[03:41] <RAOF> Yeah.
[03:41] <pwnguin> i havent put the drive into my computer, but i think it actually installed ok
[03:41] <pwnguin> theres clearly partitions set up
[03:41] <RAOF> :)
[03:41] <pwnguin> i had a talk with ompaul about it
[03:42] <pwnguin> i should probably just reread it / hit him up
[03:45] <shirish> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/81596 which talks about the JMicron chip
[03:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 81596 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Feisty Herd 4 does not boot on ASUS P5W DH Deluxe" [Medium,Incomplete]
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[04:56] <cps1966> !kde4
[04:56] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
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[09:49] <alon_> Amaranth: Remember my font problem? It isn't a font problem, it's a driver problem - when I switch to vesa in xorg.conf it goes away. So fontconfig is fine, it's something with the driver.
[09:49] <Amaranth> fun
[09:49] <alon_> :)
[09:58] <pwnguin> which driver are you normally using?
[10:13] <alon_> pwnguin: I usually use "intel". After hardy upgrade it gave me the described problems. Switching to vesa is ok (but then I don't have accel or dual screen). And now "intel" just hangs. Currently apt-geting the dbg driver to get a better call stack.
[10:29] <Hobbsee> alon_: current -intel wont be fixed for a while
[10:29] <Hobbsee> they're going to get the kernel for the new stuff in, and then the new intel driver, then look for regressoins
[10:38] <alon_> Hobbsee: stack showes it isn't stuck in intel, but in xserver - specifically probing for modes. It seems to not like my preferred mode some how (I have it set to 1440x900). This is the bottom most (unless you count libc):../../../../hw/xfree86/modes/xf86Crtc.c:1406. I have the sources - it is a loop going through the modes. It seems to be endless for some reason (bad next pointers?)
[10:39] <Hobbsee> no idea
[10:39] <alon_> Hobbsee: of course it doesn't get stuck when using vesa driver, so naturally it has something to do with the intel driver. I have no idea either - I'm going to use vesa for now.
[10:39] <Hobbsee> true
[10:39]  * Hobbsee just hasnt upgraded -intel
[10:40] <alon_> Hobbsee: you think I can downgrade it without having a problem with the newer X packages all around?
[10:42] <Hobbsee> this is the feisty version of -intel :)
[10:42] <Hobbsee> well, built for gutsy
[10:43] <alon_> Hobbsee: I have to confess I haven't actually downgraded a package, so I'll have to go read some docs. I'll do it later..
[11:28] <alon_> Hobbsee: removing PreferredMode solved the infinite loop problem.
[11:57] <alon_> Hobbsee: well, problem solved, sorta - NoAccel makes it ok again. So I guess fontconfig does something that is accelerated, while enlightenment e17 and xterm (and yudit) don't. Now I can patiently wait for someone to fix this.
[11:57] <alon_> maybe I should be reporting this to the intel guys?
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[18:28] <silent> does anyone know how to mount ntfs-3g in fstab giving users permission to mount? 'users' isn't working
[18:38] <stdin> silent: users,noauto ?
[18:52] <silent> stdin, current entry
[18:52] <silent> UUID=791F09DC27F6580D /win ntfs-3g nls=utf8,users,noauto,exec,umask=000,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[18:54] <silent> Error opening partition device: Permission denied
[18:54] <silent> Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Permission denied
[18:54] <pwnguin> is it users or user?
[18:55] <pwnguin> oh
[18:55] <pwnguin> silent: what groups is your user in?
[18:56] <pwnguin> ntfs3g is a fuse FS, so you need access to the fuse device
[18:56] <silent> pwnguin, 1000
[18:56] <pwnguin> what?
[18:56] <pwnguin> group*s*
[18:56] <silent> user is silent in group silent
[18:56] <pwnguin> need moar groups
[18:57] <silent> k this will take a while
[18:57] <pwnguin> just bring up a terminal and run "groups"
[18:57] <silent> uid=1000(silent) gid=1000(silent) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),108(lpadmin),110(admin),115(netdev),117(powerdev),1000(silent)
[18:58] <pwnguin> add user silent to the group fuse
[18:58] <silent> how? I've never added users to groups before
[18:58] <pwnguin> just use the gui
[19:00] <pwnguin> hit users&groups then go to the properties of your user
[19:00] <silent> I'm in the gui, I can manage groups but I dont see any option to add groups
[19:00] <pwnguin> hmm
[19:00] <silent> k I'm on the account tab
[19:01] <pwnguin> user privledges
[19:01] <pwnguin> "allow use of fuse devices like LTSP thin..."
[19:01] <pwnguin> if it's not there we need to add it
[19:01] <silent> its there
[19:01] <silent> I'll try mounting now
[19:02] <silent> permission denied
[19:03] <pwnguin> truth be told ive not set up ntfs-3g
[19:04] <silent> this skin is messing with me, I cant tell which options are enabled and which arent
[19:04] <pwnguin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[19:04] <pwnguin> which skin?
[19:04] <silent> custom theme
[19:05] <pwnguin> hmm
[19:05] <silent> changed it
[19:06] <silent> now i have check marks in bullets
[19:06] <pwnguin> does /var/log/messages or /var/log/dmesg contain any information on what went wrong?
[19:07] <silent> doesnt look like it
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[21:46] <bardyr> !info linux-image-generic
[21:46] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB
[21:47] <bardyr> hey btw :)
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[22:20] <theunixgeek>  Hello. I'm following the osdev Bare Bones tutorial for writing a simple kernel. http://www.osdev.org/wiki/Bare_bones I'm a complete noob at this, so please don't assume I know all the terminology you guys do. I'd like to be able to boot the kernel shown in the tutorial in either Bochs or QEMU. How would I go about this?
[22:46] <knix> thomax: What does this have to do with ubuntu?
[22:46] <knix> ignore that :)