[01:22] <zul> *sigh* old habbits die hard
[05:23] <chaitues> hi could some one tell me what is netif in the kernel source code?
[17:44] <zul> xen almost merged for i386
[17:59] <rtg> zul: lemme know when.
[17:59] <zul> rtg: merged, didnt say it was working ;)
[18:00] <rtg> well, I'm not much interested until it works :0
[18:00] <rtg> s/:0/:)/
[18:01] <zul> lol
[18:45] <zul> has anyone thought of putting kvm in lum for hardy?
[19:12] <BenC> zul: kvm is in the mainline kernel
[19:15] <zul> BenC: true but userland and kernel might not always agree
[19:15] <BenC> zul: we need to make userland agree with the kernel...kernel sets the pace :)
[19:16] <BenC> unless there's considerable reason not to
[19:16] <BenC> especially now that the kernel has paravirt-ops for kvm
[19:16] <zul> yep
[19:23] <Keybuk> BenC: except when the kernel lags 20 years behind the pace of what userland wants
[19:23] <BenC> Keybuk: I blame that one upstream kvm
[19:23] <BenC> Keybuk: either they are moving too fast, or not syncing with linus enough
[19:24] <zul> well you could just cherrypick them from the kvm git then
[19:24] <BenC> this can easily be said for alsa