[08:42] sweet, openchrome no longer conflicts with via/unichrome [09:06] nice [09:07] tjaalton: btw, I've written up a couple more specs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/MonitorsDatabaseOnline and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/AutodetectMonitorFrequency [09:07] please feel free to update either [09:11] bryce: is there any radeonhd or fglrx package working on hardy somewhere? [09:11] seb128: see my post on ubuntu-devel [09:11] tjaalton: which one? [09:11] not yet, although timo's l-r-m package could be used for fglrx [09:11] seb128: "new l-r-m for testing" [09:12] Nov 13 [09:12] tjaalton: thanks [09:13] seb128: feedback welcome :) [09:13] maybe I should just upload that [09:13] ok, will try those ;-) [09:13] still no reply from kernel-team [09:14] don't hold your breath [09:14] seb128: note that it doesn't ship ATI libGL anymore, which makes it installable with -ati :) [09:15] seb128: I've already got one confirmation that it works just as fine, but compiz still fails. Maybe you can get it running :) [09:15] bryce: oh, they are on vacation?-) [09:16] uh, more like under-manned [09:16] yeah [09:17] btw, want to become a kernel maintainer for ubuntu? [09:17] hehe [09:17] :-) [09:17] I'm probably not qualified for the task ;) [09:17] rats, no hiring bonus for me ;-) [09:18] ah, you have those :) [09:19] yeah I plan on getting you hired on for something! ;-) [09:19] [09:20] heh :) [09:20] want to be a new marketing manager? Operations Manager? hrm... [09:21] open-gl conman / recruiter ;) [09:21] do you know taiwaneese? [09:21] aren't you desperate :P [09:21] does taiwan speak taiwaneese? [09:21] pwnguin, maybe you do? [09:22] im pretty sure they speak chinese, given the history [09:22] ahhhh [09:22] need a job? [09:22] i dont speak chinese [09:22] at UDS I noticed to my dismay that even my english had suffered a lot :) [09:24] * pwnguin just noticed a few demoscene packages [09:24] didnt realize sesse was a DD [09:25] bryce: if you're looking for a hiring bonus, this guy might fit the desktop developer role: https://edge.launchpad.net/~sesse [09:26] maintains nfs-utils in debian ;) [09:26] and lots of others [09:27] wrote several openGL apps [09:27] apps that won demoparties [09:27] oh [09:27] that part I didn't know [09:27] apt-get install amoeba [09:27] hmm, cool. although there's only 3 open bugs related to him in LP [09:28] http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=sesse@debian.org [09:28] there ya go ;) [09:28] ahh, nice [09:30] yeah, I've tried to get alex and cworth for the desktop position, but alex went to amd, and cworth isn't replying (guess he's happy at RH). [09:31] these are just names to me [09:31] are many rh engineers DDs? [09:31] bryce, tjaalton: is there any known intel bug which means compiz shadows being buggy on hardy? [09:32] no idea, but cworth is pretty focused on cairo development; I don't think he does much packaging [09:32] seb128: not that I remember [09:32] seb128, hrm; only one I know of was that one we took care of around the developer sprint last time [09:35] seb128: I have i945 that works just fine [09:38] bryce: is the MonitorDatabase.... meant for custom settings only, and normally rely on autodetection? [09:39] yup [09:39] (so I expect it is going to be needed extremely rarely) [09:41] bryce: did I mention that the latest xorg-server has a newer version of patch 120? I tried it with the i945 and it didn't crash or pose any other problems, so I thought it's safer to keep for -ati users for now.. and evaluate dropping it later? [09:43] yeah you mentioned that. It sounds like a good idea to keep it [09:45] New bug: #164290 in xorg (main) "nvidia driver selects non-existing CRT monitor as default instead of the DFP on the laptop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164290 === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [10:06] night [10:10] night [10:25] New bug: #164295 in xorg (main) "external monitor doesn't "work" on laptop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164295 === seb128__ is now known as seb128 === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [14:47] seb128: btw, did the fglrx update work? [14:48] tjaalton: I'll try in a minute [14:48] ah, no hurry [15:02] tjaalton: works fine [15:02] I've just installed fglrx [15:02] it's still unusable slooooooow but that was already the case in gutsy [15:02] * seb128 kicks the radeonhd support on linux [15:03] should try the radeonhd driver again [15:03] seb128: what card do you have? [15:04] radeon 2400 something [15:04] radon 2400 hd I think [15:05] hmm, that's r6xx [15:05] radeon 2400 hd I think [15:05] rather [15:05] yes [15:06] workspaces or applications switching is alright but scrolling is not, it's really laggy [15:10] atombios support is being merged in -ati, so I'm not sure if radeonhd is another avivo or not :) [15:11] on http://planet.freedesktop.org/ there are a couple of articles explaining the recent changes [15:12] hopefully we'll have proper 2D at least for r5xx when hardy releases [15:15] New bug: #163292 in xorg (main) "*buntu runs as root w/ the command "sudo startx"" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163292 === jcristau_ is now known as jcristau [18:17] just curious, are there plans for xorg-driver-fglrx for the Hardy's xserver in the near future? [18:17] yes [18:17] http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~tepsipakki/lrm [18:19] tjaalton: I am gonna snag those :) thanks [19:33] tjaalton: is the overlay in the bottom right corner to be expected? (regarding your fglrx stuff) [19:34] ScislaC: don't know, since I can't test it :) [19:35] the driver is known to be buggy, but it's the best you can get for now.. [19:35] since older versions don't work with the newer xserver [19:37] tjaalton: well... I can test for you ;) That was part of my motivation of getting a working fglrx, to help bryce with triaging bugs for the newer xserver (the -ati driver isn't too friendly with my video card) [19:38] tjaalton: ScislaC is one of my long time Inkscape buddies and a kick ass artist [19:39] he also did a lot of tire kicking on fglrx packages I did during gutsy [19:41] heya bryce :) [19:41] brb [19:47] oh, ok :) [19:47] that's good [20:08] hi guys - here's the specs I've put in for Hardy: [20:08] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/autoconfigure-monitor-frequency [20:08] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/monitor-settings-database-online [20:08] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardy-hardware-detection (this one is actually Pitti's but there's some input hotplug stuff captured there too) [20:09] A fourth spec I'll work on this afternoon will be dealing with X testing infrastructure [20:09] comments/corrections on any of the above would be most appreciated [21:25] New bug: #164411 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "[Gutsy] X crashes after using xrandr through a game [i915]" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164411