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Fraggy4um00:03
anditosanI have a webcam but my friends can;t see me although I can see myself? What could be the problem. PLease help me!00:03
anditosanhow can I solve this?00:03
anditosanplease00:04
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Fraggy4?00:07
WaltzingAlonganditosan: which program?00:08
WaltzingAlong!webcam00:08
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras00:08
anditosankopete00:08
WaltzingAlonganditosan: which protocol?00:08
chris_WaltzingAlong, thanks, i used aptitude to remove all the kde4 package deps and going to retry it now00:08
anditosanmsn00:08
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anditosanwhat do you think?00:11
WaltzingAlonganditosan: perhaps a firewall is blocking the ports?00:12
anditosanmmm00:12
anditosanok00:12
DaveDormyo00:12
DaveDormI have a stupid question00:12
anditosancan I fix that on my computer or do I need to get into the router?00:12
DaveDormI used Konsole to ssh somewhere and it added my local username to the list of RSA hosts00:12
WaltzingAlonganditosan: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdenetwork/kopete/protocols.html#protocols-msn00:12
anditosanlets see00:13
DaveDormand it was different, I should not have added it00:13
DaveDormwhere does KDE/Konsole store this info so I can remove it?00:13
WaltzingAlongDaveDorm: the relevant files are stored in ~/.ssh such as known_hosts00:13
DaveDormah cool00:13
WaltzingAlongDaveDorm: ssh stores this info00:13
DaveDorma real answer, and not just "RTFM!"00:13
DaveDormrefreshing, thanks!00:13
anditosanDaveDorm: I got a wireless belkin router, but I get confused as to how to forward a port00:14
DaveDormanditosan:  my router has a web config page00:14
anditosanit does00:14
DaveDormanditosan:  have you tried to log into it and use the onboard config?00:14
anditosanand I am in the port forwarding page00:14
victoria_hi00:14
DaveDormyeah, it takes some getting used to00:15
DaveDormbut it should all be there00:15
victoria_who could help me00:15
WaltzingAlongvictoria_: and your request is?00:15
DaveDormwhat''s the beef, victoria_ ?00:16
victoria_ehm00:16
victoria_i need help with instalation in kubuntu00:16
anditosanDaveDorm: I dont think I know what the onboard config is00:16
WaltzingAlongDaveDorm: and yes the manual would tell you too :D  man ssh00:17
victoria_can i talk in pvt with someone about it00:17
anditosanDaveDorm: in thr router I get asked what is the name of the service that I want to forward, server IP address and the port00:17
victoria_who has time for me00:18
WaltzingAlongvictoria_: perhaps you could elaborate a bit more first00:19
victoria_im bit shy00:19
victoria_talk about technical stuffs00:19
Fraggy4victoria: I messaged you00:20
victoria_it blocked me00:20
victoria_i cant type with you00:20
WaltzingAlong!register | victoria_00:20
ubotuvictoria_: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration00:20
anditosanDaveDorm: the router asks for a SERVER IP ADDRESS, what do I put here?00:20
victoria_cause m not registered00:20
WaltzingAlongvictoria_: Fraggy4 you two could join your own channel #vicfrag00:21
Fraggy4Well, i did00:21
WaltzingAlonganditosan: the number to the machine on your LAN the port of which you want opened - perhaps 192.168.0.100 or such00:21
WaltzingAlongvictoria_: click on #vicfrag or type /join #vicfrag00:22
anditosanWaltzingAlong: that means that my laptop being the one wanting to get the port forwarded has an IP address? is that what I am looking for?00:22
WaltzingAlonganditosan: seems so.00:22
anditosanok00:22
anditosanifcongfig works for that right?00:23
WaltzingAlongifconfig yes00:23
anditosanok00:23
victoria_i need help with installation linux dccp00:26
victoria_it doesnt work when im using commands for it00:26
WaltzingAlongvictoria_: do you have the kubuntu desktop/live cd?00:27
victoria_no00:27
WaltzingAlongvictoria_: how were you thinking to install?00:27
victoria_i mean idid: sudo apt-get install dccp00:28
victoria_tehn it started installin but it showed that file canot be found00:28
WaltzingAlongvictoria_: what should 'dccp' be?00:29
ardchoillevictoria_: dccp isn't in the repos00:29
victoria_its for chat on local00:29
ardchoille!info dccp00:29
ubotuPackage dccp does not exist in gutsy00:29
WaltzingAlong!find dccp00:29
ardchoille!info dccp feisty00:29
victoria_i have dccp for chat connected with lan what im using00:30
ubotuPackage/file dccp does not exist in gutsy00:30
ubotuPackage dccp does not exist in feisty00:30
ardchoillevictoria_: apt-get install won't work unless the app is in the repos, and dccp isn't in the repos00:30
victoria_oh so00:30
victoria_so what is right command00:30
ardchoilleThere isn't one00:30
victoria_hehe00:30
victoria_good joke00:30
ardchoilleYou'd have to search for an dinstall it manually00:31
poppaI checked the file /var/lib/update-manager/meta-release.  It seems to be the one in the ubuntu-forums thread.00:31
WaltzingAlongvictoria_: you need to know what you want installed, need to know the name of the package00:31
WaltzingAlongpoppa: another route would be to grab the dvd then run the cdromupgrade script from it00:31
victoria_aha00:31
poppaThis shouldn't be this hard.  Is there any documentation on how this upgrade00:32
poppaprocedure is supposed to be configured?00:32
WaltzingAlongpoppa: yes on kubuntu.org00:32
poppaWhere?00:32
WaltzingAlongpoppa: or follow the topic00:32
WaltzingAlongpoppa: Upgrade instructions: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade00:32
victoria_and i have problems to upgrade new linux ubuntu 7.10 on kubuntu00:32
poppaThat's not useful.  It tells me the GUI commands, which are not working for me.00:33
poppaClearly there is some configuration problem.  For example, how does apt know my00:33
WaltzingAlongpoppa: and changing feisty to gutsy, then update and dist-upgrade with aptitude resulted in what?00:33
poppasystem is feisty?  From the sources.list file?00:33
gan|y|medhi00:34
victoria_or i wanted using valknut but it doesnt work after i inserted right id about hub where i wanted go00:34
poppaWhen I run "apt update" I'm told there are something like 1230 packages to upgrade.  I00:34
gan|y|medcan anyone tell how to enable CFS in the kernel config, that is which option it is (or is it maybe jsut CFQ) ??00:35
poppahaven't tried "apt dist-upgrade" because that's not easily reversible if it's the wrong thing.00:35
nosrednaekimgan|y|med: the default gutsy kernel does not have support for that.00:35
victoria_ta to keby som rozumela00:36
victoria_heh00:36
poppaWhat's the default gutsy kernel version?00:36
WaltzingAlongpoppa: well update then upgrade would be bad, update and dist-upgrade should be better; if you are going that route grab the latest everything of feisty, even proposed00:37
WaltzingAlong2.6.22-14 poppa00:37
nosrednaekimpoppa: 2.6.2200:37
poppaWhat does "even proposed" mean in this context?00:37
victoria_ops00:37
victoria_it was dcpp00:38
victoria_yay00:38
victoria_i was wrong00:38
victoria_now i can install00:38
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WaltzingAlong!find dcpp00:39
gan|y|mednosrednaekim: i know, i got the 2.6.23 version00:39
ubotuFound: linuxdcpp, linuxdcpp0.69100:39
victoria_ok how to install it00:40
WaltzingAlongvictoria_: if you know the package name   sudo aptitude install linuxdcpp                 or you can use adept manager00:40
victoria_what is adept manager00:40
victoria_actualisation?00:40
rytishellp00:41
victoria_i hate console00:42
victoria_its like black hole where i can fall00:42
victoria_eww00:42
nosrednaekimvictoria_: adept_manager is the package manager00:44
WaltzingAlong!pastebin > pacxjo00:44
victoria_aha there are programs00:44
nosrednaekimrytis: whats you problem?00:44
victoria_how to install there,?00:44
nosrednaekimvictoria_: click on a program and click install00:45
ignoramusHello all.  Anyone have any idea where the default path to "/gecko-sdk" would be?  I'm trying to install the latest version of mplayer...00:45
victoria_where is program?00:46
victoria_i opend adept manager00:46
victoria_now what00:46
nosrednaekimignoramus: is that a library or a executable program?00:46
ignoramusnosrednaekim: i'm guessing library... it's a mozilla plugin00:47
nosrednaekimvictoria_: where is what?00:47
nosrednaekimwhat do you want to get?00:47
nosrednaekimignoramus: do a "find files and folders"00:48
victoria_there are some programs00:48
victoria_there is dcpp too?00:48
ignoramusnosrednaekim: doing that now... but from root, it takes forever :)00:48
nosrednaekimvictoria_: which program do you want to get?00:49
victoria_linuxdcpp00:49
victoria_or similar progarrm00:49
nosrednaekimvictoria_: search for it... there is a search bar at the top of that window00:49
victoria_i see00:49
victoria_it00:49
victoria_:D00:50
nosrednaekimignoramus: hehe :D00:50
victoria_thanx for help00:50
victoria_:D00:50
victoria_where are you from here00:51
nosrednaekimyou are welcome00:52
* victoria_ is from Slovakia00:52
nosrednaekimUS00:53
victoria_wow00:54
victoria_so far00:54
nosrednaekimyeah :D00:55
victoria_its 2 am here00:55
victoria_im bit tired00:55
victoria_i need t o sleep00:56
victoria_bye thanks for help00:56
victoria_:D00:56
onishidatoonishidato@Annie:~$ sudo aptitude install Kopete00:56
nosrednaekimhaha XD00:56
nosrednaekimNo problem00:56
onishidato[sudo] password for onishidato:00:56
onishidatoE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                                   able)00:56
onishidatoE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                                   ess using it?00:57
onishidatoReading package lists... Done00:57
onishidatoBuilding dependency tree00:57
onishidatoReading state information... Done00:57
onishidatoReading extended state information00:57
onishidatoInitializing package states... Done00:57
onishidatoBuilding tag database... Done00:57
onishidatoE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                                   able)00:57
onishidatoE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                                   ess using it?00:57
onishidatosomeone can help me with this one00:57
onishidatoi can't install thing uing code00:57
WaltzingAlongonishidato: do not paste that here00:57
WaltzingAlong!aptfix | onishidato, and recall that only one such program can use the dpkg db at a time: adept, aptitude, apt-get, dpkg, synaptic, and so on;00:57
ubotuonishidato, and recall that only one such program can use the dpkg db at a time: adept, aptitude, apt-get, dpkg, synaptic, and so on;: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:57
lnxkdeguys someoen knows a good tool to convert from flac to mp3 ( I want to convert multiple file with their idtags not one by one00:59
onishidatoonishidato@Annie:~$ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a01:00
onishidato                     USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND01:00
onishidato/var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       5691 F.... adept_manager01:00
onishidatoKill process 5691 ? (y/N)01:00
onishidatowhat can i do next?01:01
nosrednaekim!transcode01:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about transcode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:01
nosrednaekimlnxkde: keep in mind that any command line program can be scripted01:01
nosrednaekimre-run that command... and Kopete isn't capitalized :D01:02
lnxkdenosrednaekim: true01:03
lnxkdeI have to man transcode :/01:03
nosrednaekimlnxkde: haha.... yeah... I don't recommend reading that XD01:04
lnxkdelol01:04
lnxkdeok01:04
nosrednaekimlnxkde: google it, im sure someone has scripted up something01:04
lnxkdeok01:05
dennisterhey channel, has anyone else noticed some real performance problems lately?01:08
onishidatoi can't request the automatix2 to be install, can you help me?01:08
DragnslcrNot being able to install automatix is the best help you can get01:09
dennistercause here's the list of annoying probs that have arisen in the last 24 hours: network settings have to be reset manually after every reboot; drastic slowdowns on fast machines...to the point where amarok and other apps refused to load01:09
dennisterok, that's only two probs, but very annoying01:10
dennisteri'm on gutsy, but my son is on feisty and he's complaining about the slowdowns too and he's on feisty...his amarok slows down to the point of unusability when there's a playlist of > 16 songs01:11
onishidatoi think amarok is always too slow01:12
dennisterok 3rd problem that's been going on for months: clock drift is constant even with ntp01:13
dennisterwell, never mind amarok for now...having to reset the network after every reboot is a brand new problem and tops the list of issues in terms of negative effects01:14
batis610i downloaded some figlet fonts but i dont know in wich directory do i have to put them?????01:14
dennisteranyone else observe this?01:15
WaltzingAlongdennister: all has been well here01:15
batis610me :)01:15
dennisterwhat could have caused this change for the worse?01:16
onishidatoi can't make amarok play mp3 file althought after i upgrade it01:16
onishidato:(01:16
batis610any help01:18
batis610??01:18
onishidatohow can i make i work with mp3 files now?01:18
onishidatothe amarok i mean01:18
dennisteronishidato: do u have libxinextracodecs installed?01:20
onishidatohow can i know?01:21
dennisteronishidato: use adept or synaptic and do a search for 'codecs'01:21
dennisteryou'll then see if it's already installed or not01:21
stdinthe package is actually "libxine1-ffmpeg" now01:22
stdinor just install "kubuntu-restricted-extras" on gutsy01:22
dennisterahhhh, stdin :) the real expert01:22
onishidatoi have install that package but amarok still can't play mp3 file01:23
stdinrestart amarok after installing it01:23
dennisterstdin: have others been complaining about drastic slowdowns or having to manually reset network settings after every reboot?01:23
stdindennister: none that I've seen01:24
onishidatocan you help me?01:24
stdinbut even though I'm here all the time, I'm not always "here" ;P01:24
dennistervery, very annoying01:24
WaltzingAlongdennister: i had problems with a router not handling dns requests well01:25
onishidatoi have install that package but amarok still can't play mp3 file01:25
WaltzingAlongdennister: bypassed the router as a nameserver and all is well01:25
stdinonishidato: after you've installed the package just restart amarok (File->Quit or it'll just minimise)01:26
dennisteronishidato: !restricted formats01:26
dennister!restricted formats01:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:26
basculemight need to wipe out ~/.xine if it cintinues moaning01:26
stdindennister: "!factoid | user"  not "user: !factoid"01:26
dennisterthx stdin01:27
dennisterWaltzingAlong: but my problem started all of a sudden, my month-old router always did very well01:28
WaltzingAlongdennister: and have you traced the issue to some source? used the process of elimination to rule out candidates?01:28
dennisterthis has only become a problem in the last 24 hours01:28
dennisterWaltzingAlong: i've tried, but I can't seem to isolate any change that might have caused the prob01:30
WaltzingAlongdennister: which makes it all the more challenging from here on out01:30
dennisteryes, i realize that...i was just wondering if perhaps i wasn't alone and it was some buggy update or something that was affecting others, too01:31
WaltzingAlongwhat slows down about amarok? and i think there was a recent mplayer or libxine update01:31
dennisterwell, i just found the issue with amarok (and all apps) that I had, anyway...an incomplete mplayer update01:32
dennisteri'm still wondering about scott's slowdown problem with playlists > 16 songs01:33
dennisterbrb01:34
dennisteroh great :) here it is again: Amarok: [Loader] Amarok is taking a long time to load! Perhaps something has gone wrong?01:45
dennisterno sh** sherlock01:46
dennisterWaltzingAlong: did u see my latest? ^^...it finally did load, btw, but no linux app should take 6 minutes or more01:48
WaltzingAlongdennister: took 6 minutes to start amarok? were you using a mysql db to store the collection?01:49
WaltzingAlongdennister: some addon or script not behaving?01:49
dennisterWaltzingAlong: no, it's the standard sqlite that comes with amarok, no addon or script...01:50
dennisteri have not made any changes to amarok or my system lately, except for updates01:51
azieglersorry for my bad english, but maybe there is a math guru and cann tell me what the result from the negation of an implication is?01:51
WaltzingAlongdennister: do not know. check in #amarok perhaps01:52
azieglersomething like this - (a -> b)01:52
stdinaziegler: this is not a math support channel01:52
siflidhapWelcome.  It's nice to meet you.01:52
aziegleris the result - a <-> -b ???01:52
dennisterWaltzingAlong: ok, i will thanks, but i am tempted to say that the slowdown probs r probably system-wide, and not app-specific01:53
stdinaziegler: try #ubuntu-offtopic01:53
aziegleryes, but i think here are some informatic students :-)01:53
azieglercause i need it for theoretic informatic01:53
stdinaziegler: fine, but ask in #ubuntu-offtopic not in here01:54
BluesKaj1+1=2 , in theory, then again it could make 3 in time :)01:54
Klownerhttp://klowner.deviantart.com/art/Flowbright-Kubuntu-70353290   just cranked out a fresh boring little wallypaper if anyone cares02:00
gan|y|medhi02:01
darknesshi02:01
dennisteranyone know how to turn this bloody eye candy off? i think it might be sapping resources and i'm tired of these constant greying app boxes02:01
gan|y|medhas anybody compiled kernel 2.6.23.1??02:01
stdinKlowner: put it up on kde-look.org02:02
Klownerstdin: no thanks02:02
KlownerI removed all my stuff from kde-look after the linspire incident02:03
dennisterlinspire incident?02:04
Klowneryah they used some of my stuff in promotional material without providing attribution02:05
Klownerso, meh, not a fan02:05
stdindennister: try using kpersonalizer to disable most effects02:07
dennisterthieves everywhere...will try kpersonalizer02:09
dennistergreat, now alt-tab isn't working and for some reason my cursor has morphed into something unusable...this is just *not* my day02:11
dennisterdoes anyone hear the sound of frustration emanating from this little corner of cyberspace?02:12
mike-kubuntuhey guys, i want to test out running a game in wine with a fresh registry and everything, trying to get soul reaver 2 to work and for some reason the italien version installed correctly and ran perfectly, but the english version i just got wont even open, anyone know how to make wine act like new without deleting everything else?02:12
WaltzingAlongmike-kubuntu: you could mv .wine .wine_saved02:12
mike-kubuntuwaltzingalong: thanks, i'll try02:13
dennisterperhaps a cig and a reboot will solve some of my isues...bbs02:13
|Aryn|hey guys ;)02:15
|Aryn|I'm looking for the software "netspeed", but the analog one for KDE02:16
|Aryn|can someone help me plz?02:16
russell--how do i reconfigure my x server?02:17
russell--xorg.conf has some junk entries on it02:18
bazhangsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:18
stdin|Aryn|: try knetload or knetdockapp02:18
russell--thanks02:18
darknessalso |Aryn| you could try knetstats02:19
stdinthat's the other one I couldn't remember02:19
|Aryn|hm, which of these is netspeed at closest?^^02:19
stdinnever used the gome applet, so I have no clue02:19
russell--bazhang: will it replace the xorg.conf file?02:19
darknessI think you can put knetstats in icon mode, like netspeed02:20
ShadixHeya! If I am running Gnome do i need any of the packages in package manager for KDE? i mean are some used for some other apps?02:20
|Aryn|darkness: yea, that's what i wanted, to show up my network-card's speed in icon-mode, thx a lot!02:21
darknessyou are welcome02:21
|Aryn|:)02:21
DM|ok so new to KDE, installed it on a second box, whats the KDE version of gksudo?02:22
darknessDM: kdesudo02:22
darknessin 7.1002:22
|Aryn|kdesu til 7.0402:22
Shadixman your a Kubuntu ninja darkness02:22
DM|kk kdesudo thank02:22
DM|s02:23
stdinkdesu will work in 7.04, it just links to kdesudo02:23
DM|errp02:23
DM|i thought adept was kde's package manager02:23
darknessyes it is02:23
coreymon77anyone here good with the gimp?02:23
DM|sudo adept, command not fond02:23
ShadixI'm running both02:23
|Aryn|stdin: you mean kdesudo02:24
darknessit is adept_manager02:24
|Aryn|which links to kdesu02:24
stdin|Aryn|: no02:24
|Aryn|DM|: sudo apt-get install kdesudo02:24
stdin|Aryn|: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2007-11-01 21:05 /usr/bin/kdesu -> kdesudo                kdesu links to kdesudo02:25
DM|aryn im running gutsy on that machine do i really need to do that02:25
stdinDM|: kdesudo is pre-installed02:25
DM|thats all i need then02:25
DM|thanks02:25
DM|its weird working on KDE after on GNOME for so long02:26
darknesswhy did you switch?02:26
DM|didnt switch02:26
DM|Just have a compy im going to be running as a VM server02:27
DM|and figured ill use KDE on it, to get used to it at the same time02:27
darknessoh02:27
|Aryn|compy = computer?02:27
DM|my heart still lies with GNOME, its much smoother02:27
DM|yes compy= computer02:27
spcKDEwhere do i find kubuntu apps?02:30
DM|kde-apps.org02:30
DM|iirc02:30
spcKDEoki02:30
spcKDEty02:31
JucatospcKDE: you can try searching in Add/Remove Programs02:31
Jucatoor Adept Manager02:31
spcKDEdifference from that two?02:32
spcKDEnone?02:32
WaltzingAlongadept manager would show all of them while add/remove shows some and grouped02:32
JucatoAdd/Remove Programs has a simplified interface and only shows some programs. Adept Manager is more superpowered and shows everything02:32
spcKDEi find hard to read all those apps :D02:33
spcKDEtnx02:33
Jucato(actually Add/Remove Programs is an alias for Adept Installer...)02:33
spcKDEkubuntu is great02:33
spcKDEi eaven managed to get my usbWirless to work02:33
spcKDEbest OS02:33
spcKDE_D02:34
darknessdoes anybody know if it is possible to run Joost with wine?02:34
DM|whats this.. "" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0 when i open up kate , mentioning /tm/ksocket-HOSTNAME02:34
Shadixif I have the Gnome enviro installed can i go ahead and uninstall all the KDE packages?02:34
DM|*/tmp/ksocket*02:35
dennisterk...i'm back...found the network annoyance source; fixed02:35
JucatoShadix: if you want to02:35
Shadixright but what i'm getting at is are there any apps I may be running that would rely on them?02:36
Jucatoif you're running some kde apps, then yes of course they'd depend on kde packages :)02:36
Jucatoif you're just running GNOME, nope02:37
mike-kubuntuthis is so wierd, anyone here have soul reaver or soul reaver 2 running in wine?02:37
mike-kubuntuthe italien version installed and ran perfectly, now the english verison wont run at all02:37
mike-kubuntuwierdin me out02:37
Jucato#winehq might be the best place to ask about it02:38
Shadixwell what i'm trying to so is get ride of the KDE enviroment only (Ie, login and splash, desktop)02:38
mike-kubuntukk02:38
dennisterbut the pc is still slow as molasses02:40
dennisteronly have 3 apps open, and even terminal is so sllllloooooowwwwwww02:40
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darknessone thing i find weird is that my computer almost always shows it is using about 1.7GB of RAM (it has 2GB) even when I only have about 3 windows02:43
WaltzingAlongdennister: ah so you installed xserver-xgl but are not using compiz? or check htop to see what is eating your cpu02:43
darknessit doesn't slow down though02:43
WaltzingAlongdarkness: wonderful! you should be so happy that the kernel is working so well02:43
DM|does KDE have a firewall like Firestarter02:43
WaltzingAlong!info guarddog | DM|02:44
ubotudm|: guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 482 kB, installed size 1436 kB02:44
WaltzingAlong!info iptables | DM|, and firestarter is just the frontend, so is guarddog02:44
ubotudm|, and firestarter is just the frontend, so is guarddog: iptables: administration tools for packet filtering and NAT. In component main, is standard. Version 1.3.6.0debian1-5ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 367 kB, installed size 1268 kB02:44
dennisterWaltzingAlong: i was using compiz, but i'm so annoyed with it constantly greying out my apps i'm trying to get rid of it02:44
WaltzingAlongdennister: well there you have it. so get rid of compiz and xserver-xgl get back to the normal xserver-xorg02:44
dennisterterminal has so far taken over 5 minutes to simply fetch kpersonalizer...and counting02:45
dennisterover 5 minutes to apt-get one app is crazy02:45
BadSneakerssomething's clearly not working normally02:46
WaltzingAlongdennister: but at least now you know what to do02:46
DM|is guarddog installed by default?02:46
BadSneakersdon't think so02:46
WaltzingAlongDM|: wno02:46
WaltzingAlongno*02:46
WaltzingAlongDM|: but iptables is02:47
dennisterBadSneakers: yes, but why all of a sudden am i having so many issues? this is normally a very quick machine, and cerrtainly was yesterday02:47
darknessWaltzingAlong: thanks for the PM, i couldnt answer because i am not registered02:47
DM|aye but iptables is a little harder to configure if you arent familiar with it02:47
DM|I realize they are the same thing techincally02:47
DM|but still02:47
WaltzingAlonganyway i would guess that most of the ram is being used for disk caching02:47
WaltzingAlongmaybe if one knows enough to install something that opens a port then one also knows enough to install guarddog/firestarter to configure the firewall?02:48
BadSneakersdennister  I really can't be specific,  I use pretty standard things.  if you added that compwiz fusion thing and the problem began, then . . .02:48
WaltzingAlongyes remove xserver-xgl then get back to the normal aiglx xserver-xorg02:49
darknessWaltzingAlong: yes it is, about 70%02:49
WaltzingAlongdarkness: how is your swap by the way?02:50
dennisterBadSneakers: compiz was added weeks ago...the system-wide problems just started today02:50
darknessWatlzingAlong: totally completely free, not a single bit is used02:50
dennisternow 10 minutes to apt-get one app...02:50
BlackDiamondscan one get KDE4 RC1 though ubuntu servers ?02:51
BlackDiamondsor must one follow the instructions in the topic ?02:51
JucatoBlackDiamonds: the topic02:51
dennisterand so far it's still reading the database02:52
BadSneakersdennister  Ksysguard will show you what is using the resources02:52
Jucato(PPA's are on the ubuntu/canonical servers anyway...)02:52
BlackDiamondsah, I did not want some third party thing, it makes me uneasy. Thank you02:52
WaltzingAlongdarkness: :D02:52
nightf0xhi, i installed kubuntu 7.10 today, and looked in the xorg.conf and there is no "modules" section. is this something new for 7.10?02:52
WaltzingAlongdarkness: so you see how it works, ram access is what all of 9ns whereas hd access is 9ms? must faster to get it from ram02:53
nightf0xalso games that use 3d run very slow02:53
nightf0xhowever glxgears shows 1900+ fps02:53
nightf0xand glxinfo says direct rendering: yes02:53
MinusSevenWhen I installed Kubuntu before, I couldn't find the /etc/fstab file02:53
Jucatonightf0x: no modules? yes I think so.02:53
Jucatonightf0x: what OpenGL renderer is it using according to glxinfo?02:54
nightf0xOpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 7.0.102:55
nightf0xis that what u meant?02:55
darknessWaltzingAlong: oh, I get it now, thanks for all your help02:55
nightf0xOpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 4x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL02:55
Jucatonightf0x: yep. and that's where your problem lies02:55
nightf0xdo you know how i can fix it?02:55
WaltzingAlongnightf0x: systemsettings/advanced/restricted manager02:56
nightf0xsays your hardware doesn't need any restirced drivers02:56
nightf0xits radeon 900002:56
nightf0xin feisty it worked well with opesource driver02:57
nightf0xinfact i didn't have to touch xorg.conf at all02:57
WaltzingAlongfglrx 8.42.3 (this one supports AIGLX) howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide (for 3d support on older radeon cards, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver for data) | nightf0x - then you want 'radeon'; check the page as you may have pieces of fglrx getting in the way02:57
BlackDiamondswill KDE4 be released for 7.10 via backports or something ?02:57
WaltzingAlongBlackDiamonds: kde4rc1 is there already!!02:58
nightf0xi'll try the "radeon" driver then02:58
nightf0xthx02:58
BlackDiamondsin backports ?02:58
|Aryn|WaltzingAlong: can i have kde 3.5 and kde4rc1 parallel?02:58
WaltzingAlong|Aryn|: yes02:58
Jucatoyes02:58
|Aryn|and how?02:58
* Jucato points to the channel topic again02:58
WaltzingAlongBlackDiamonds: according to the instructions in the top or www.kubuntu.org02:59
dennisterk, 18 minutes so far and kpersonalizer still isn't installed...:(02:59
|Aryn|ok, thx^^02:59
WaltzingAlong|Aryn|: according to the instructions in the top or www.kubuntu.org02:59
WaltzingAlongdennister: remove xserver-xgl drop to tty1 as just x is slow02:59
BlackDiamondsthats not gutsy-backports02:59
BlackDiamondsthat some package from a launchpad server02:59
BlackDiamondsa build of some sort I believe03:00
WaltzingAlongBlackDiamonds: yes not in backports03:00
dennisterBadSneakers: i've finally got ksysgaurd open, but it seems curiously empty of resources-hogging clues03:00
dennisterWaltzingAlong: "drop to tty1"????03:00
WaltzingAlongnightf0x: also pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log if you want. it may explain why the radeon 3d was not already in use03:00
stdinit will be in backports sometime03:00
WaltzingAlongdennister: ctrl+alt+f103:00
WaltzingAlongdennister: c+a+f7 to get back03:01
dennisterk, soon...kpersonalizer is unpacking now03:02
|Aryn|how can I save a console-command in a file, so I just have to click on the file and the command will be executed? So I save the time to type the command by hand every time for often sued command...you know what I mean xD03:02
dennisterof course, that 'unpacking could take another 22 minutes, heheheh03:02
|Aryn|used*03:03
|Aryn|+s03:03
nightf0xdo u want me to paste the whole log here?03:03
Jucato!pastebin | nightf0x03:03
ubotunightf0x: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:03
WaltzingAlong|Aryn|: so a small script? just a text file with a few lines03:03
rfmonk!Dolphin03:03
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.03:03
MinusSevenJust wondering, which do you think is more stable KDE or GNOME?03:04
|Aryn|nightf0x: did you mean me?03:04
nightf0xi pasted it03:04
nightf0xhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45445/03:04
stdinMinusSeven: you're asking in #kubuntu, guess what we're going to say03:04
WaltzingAlong|Aryn|: you could also make an alias for it in .bashrc03:04
MinusSevenok03:05
darknessshould I leave kdm as the default manager when installing kdm-kde4??03:07
stdindarkness: doesn't matter, you won't be using kde4's kdm03:07
nightf0xbtw i looked at that opensource radeon guide and it said to put         Mode 0666 into section DRI. i tired it earlier today and my xserver wouldn't start so i had to remove it03:09
darknessstdin: thanks03:09
greencoo1iewtf03:09
stdin!wtf > greencoo1ie03:10
greencoo1ieThis is wierd. I can't log into my nick greencookie. Ive been trying for a long time:)03:10
greencoo1ieim using irssi03:10
Hobbsee!ghost | greencoo1ie03:11
ubotugreencoo1ie: On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>03:11
greencoo1ieok03:11
greencoo1ie!nick03:11
ubotuBy default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration03:11
greencoo1iehow do I change nikc?03:11
greencoo1ie /nick greencookie03:11
stdinyeah03:11
greencoo1ienothing happens when I type that:)03:12
BlackDiamondsno space03:12
greencoo1ieit says nick greencookie already in use while ive ghost'ed the nick bout 100 times03:12
dennisterstdin: it's now been more than 30 minutes just to apt-get kpersonalizer03:12
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stdindennister: see what top says is eating the cpu03:13
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greencookieyes! finally03:13
greencookiethanks guys. bye03:14
CPrgmSwR2Hi, Does anyone know of any linux jobs in the USA?03:15
tuxwulf_I remember I saw a place to change the login screen. Can anyone remind me? I seem to have lost it.....03:15
CPrgmSwR2tuxwulf_: under systemsettings03:15
CPrgmSwR2advance tab03:15
CPrgmSwR2login manager03:15
stdinCPrgmSwR2: asking about jobs isn't a kubuntu support question, is it ;)03:16
CPrgmSwR2stdin: sorry for asking03:16
stdinCPrgmSwR2: #ubuntu-offtopic is a much better place to ask anyway03:16
CPrgmSwR2thank you stdin03:17
tuxwulf_CPrgmSwR2: I see.. Doesn't look like the one I saw before but perhaps that was pure Debian. Thanks! I will wrestle with it...03:19
CPrgmSwR2tuxwulf_: make sure you put it into administrator mode03:19
CPrgmSwR2btw tuxwulf_ before where you using gnome rather than kde?03:20
* Jucato wonders if tuxwulf_ was referring to kdmtheme03:20
dennisterstdin: top is telling me what I believed to be true...i'm hardly using any of my cpu...nothing is taking more than 10% (xorg, but it can go as low as 1%, too); artsd is often going as hight as 10%...i hardly have anything running03:20
stdintuxwulf_: probably System Settings > Appearance > KDM Theme Manager03:21
tuxwulf_CPrgmSwR2: Eh no, but I was not always using Kubuntu, but pure Debian with pure KDE.03:21
stdinhmm03:21
dennisteri finally killed the apt-get process...nothing should take 30 minutes to install03:22
tuxwulf_CPrgmSwR2: Thanks ! But that was not it... I am usually too lazy to change all those...03:22
tuxwulf_CPrgmSwR2: Have to get off now... Bye!03:23
WaltzingAlongdennister: remove xserver-xgl03:23
WaltzingAlongdennister: or compiz --replace03:23
darknessdennister: why dont you just kill compiz03:24
BluesKajdennister , some of the canuck repos have been having probs staying up today03:26
BluesKajI got stalled for almost an hr this morning03:26
dennisterok...got booted, but i had to make sure everything was purged and xorg edited properly03:41
espaciousi have an usbwirless adapater i managed out to get it work03:41
armandouyuda con wifi03:42
espaciousbut now after reboot no wirless03:42
armandoayuda con wifi03:42
dennisterthings seem a lot faster now (like usual), and it seems i didn't have sxerver-xgl installed anyway03:42
espaciousi have inserted a driver from windows03:42
espaciousany help?03:42
darknessarmando: whats the problem03:42
espaciousseems there is no wlan0 as it was before03:43
armandowifi03:43
armandono sirve03:43
darknessespacious: you used ndiswrapper right?03:44
darknessdid you add it to /etc/modules?03:44
darknessarmando: what brand is the card you are using03:45
darknessis it broadcom?03:45
armandobroadcom03:45
armandoyes03:45
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darknessdid you try the restricted manager?03:46
armandoyes03:46
espaciousdarkness jes ndiswrapper , how do i add?03:47
espaciouswhat should i write inside modules?03:47
espaciousi have fuse,lp,sbp203:48
darknessyes, add ndiswrapper below those03:48
espaciousanda reboot?03:48
darknessyep03:48
mushroomblueyou have to do a voodoo chant, first.03:49
espaciouslet's see03:49
mushroomblueotherwise, it doesn't work.03:49
espacious?03:49
darknessyes, you have to repeat aloud three times "beetlejuice"03:50
espaciousjup03:50
darknessthen send this conversation to 20 of your contacts03:51
apowancient spirits of networking... transform this crappy windows driver to a native linux module! *cue thundercats background music*03:51
dennisternight all03:51
darknessgood night03:51
helloo01HELLO03:51
darknesshello helloo03:51
helloo01no dpnt go03:51
helloo01The moon is Shining03:52
apowanyone had success with those kde4 debs?03:52
helloo01no.03:52
darknessi installed from repositories03:52
helloo01I didnt bother03:52
apowdid it work?03:52
helloo01No, because I didn't bother03:52
helloo01DUDE03:52
darknessyes03:52
darknessit worked fine03:53
darknessjust followed the instructions at kubuntu.com03:53
apowhm... i think i'll try it out :)03:53
espaciousseems when i get in gnome wirless works but not in kde, only if i first start a gnome session03:56
espaciousworks in kde03:56
espaciousbecouse wpa protocol is now auto03:58
espaciousbefore u can select only open or shared...03:58
darknessin kde the networks don't appear?03:59
darknessor the card simply doesn't work at all03:59
espaciousdont appear04:02
espaciousif i first come in kde04:02
darknessare you using knetworkmanager?04:04
flaccidi have an ati radeon using the radeon driver. what is the right/easiest/best way to set up dual display? doing it in the gui fails04:04
espaciousjes04:04
SpaceGhostI have some questions (I'm a kubuntu noob), anyone available to answer some? :)04:05
darknessyou could try to use gnome's network manager on kde to see if it works04:05
darknessSpaceGhost: if i know the answer, sure i'll help04:06
espaciousnow it works04:06
espaciousbut as i said if i first go in kde after start lappy dont find any network04:06
espaciousi meaned any wirless network04:07
SpaceGhostI installed a clean install of Kubuntu..but any time it tries to install any updates, or most installs in general, it tells me 'commit failed' and cancels the install.04:07
SpaceGhostSometimes even though it told me it failed, it works anyway, and sometimes it doesn't.04:08
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darknessespacious: i don't know... can anyone else help?04:08
geniiBah. Launchpad is down04:09
* genii sips a coffee04:09
nightf0xafter messing around w/ xorg.conf  i made it only worse. now i don't have any 3d acceleration eventhough xorg.conf is returned to previous state.04:09
espaciouswill see04:09
SpaceGhostdarkness: Do you have any idea why it might doing that?04:10
darkness@SpaceGhost, i don't know whay that happens either, it happens to me sometimes also04:10
darknessbut not most of the time04:11
nightf0xdoes any want to take a look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see whats wrong?04:11
SpaceGhostAlso, I was having problems with packages, I realized I need .deb packages, not .rpm (Like I said, I'm a noob :)  However, the ubuntu site says to download Alien..gave me a link...and it won't install.  Doesn't even see any valid files /to/ install.04:13
SpaceGhostWhich leads me to believe I am doing something stupif.04:13
SpaceGhostd04:13
darknessyou can install alien from repositories04:14
* genii ponders sudo apt-get install alien04:14
SpaceGhostRight, I went right off the ubuntu site, and downloaded the .tar.gz , I extracted it, and it told me the .gz was corrupt.04:14
* genii ponders sudo apt-get install alien once more04:15
darknessopen a console and type sudo apt-get install alien04:15
SpaceGhostOh, sorry genii I have the text fonts wierd, and I didn't see it.04:15
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SpaceGhostThanks.  I'll try that04:15
geniiSpaceGhost: Altho, only use rpm files to install something when ABSOLUTELY no ubuntu package exists04:16
SpaceGhostYeah, well the problem is I need to use a CAC Card and the Firefox add-on CAC Card addon doesn't work, and I heard a lot of people talk about one that works that's in an rpm04:17
geniiDoes it use the same chip type as for instance Fido Cards?04:18
genii(fido SIM )04:19
SpaceGhostNot exactly.  They are DOD.  But I just found an ubuntu one called coolkey.  It installed...now I just have to figure out how to use it04:19
darknessmaybe this could help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=564763&highlight=cac%20reader%20install04:19
t3ch13I just bumped the memory in my laptop from 1 Gig to 2 Gig. In windows I can see a major improvement but can't seem to notice any difference in Linux do I need to do anything special in Linux?04:20
geniit3ch13: It was already efficient with 1Gb so more ram will not give you some noticeable boost04:21
t3ch13So I guess it's not like windoze then more memory better prerformance04:22
SpaceGhost@darkness That helped, even though it inexplicably doesn't work. :)04:25
SpaceGhost@darkness But it SHOULD have worked, so that was a huge help, now I just have to figure out what i did wrong.  Thanks04:25
darkness@SpaceGhost You are welcome04:26
geniit3ch13: Yes, exactly. Sorry for lag, was in another channel giving assistance04:27
t3ch13Ok thanks genii04:27
funcrushThe package name, "sun-java6-jdk" is wrong?04:37
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funcrushI'm looking for jdk T-T04:42
Jucato!info sun-java6-jdk04:42
ubotusun-java6-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-03-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 9286 kB, installed size 31304 kB04:42
funcrushthx but, my adept manager can't find sun-java6-jdk04:46
underdog5004how do I do file transfers with irssi?04:46
Jucatowhat version of Kubuntu are you using?04:46
funcrush7.1004:46
Jucatothat's strange...04:47
Jucatofresh install?04:47
geniifuncrush: Enable multiverse repo04:48
funcrushhm..04:48
Jucatowhich should be enabled anyway04:48
JucatoI'm guessing the cdrom repository is still enabled?04:48
geniiJucato: It definitely was commented out on my default install.04:48
Jucatogenii: which version did you install?04:48
geniiJucato: 7.10 32 bit cd, from shipit04:49
JucatoI just did a fresh install yesterday and it's definitely enabled04:49
genii(ubuntu gnome, not kubuntu)04:49
Jucato(command-line system, no GUI)04:49
geniifuncrush: Did you do an offline insall? eg: no internet during install04:49
genii*install04:50
funcrushthx genii!!04:50
funcrushI check multiverse repo04:50
Jucatoweird...04:50
funcrushthen, the things resolved04:50
mac_中午好04:51
biovore!ch04:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:52
angelhello04:53
mac_有明白中文的吗??04:53
genii!cn04:54
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk04:54
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mac_who can speak Chinese here?04:55
darknessbut you speak english04:55
Dr_willisMoogoo gai pan! and an extra side of  Crab Ragoon!04:56
Dr_willis:)04:56
Dr_willisYummm...04:56
Dr_willisCrab Ragoon are just.... too good.. :)04:56
angelnadie habla chino !!!!!04:56
darknessni español!04:56
mac_?????04:57
geniimac_: It seems no one currently in this channel speaks chinese except you04:57
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darknessSorry mac_ nobody speaks chinese here04:57
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darknesshey funcrush, what IDE do you use to program java?04:58
darknesseclipse?04:59
TobyKhi... I'm having  a weird issue with compiz fusion on kubuntu 7.10 - when I enable compiz on my nvidia twinview setup, it works fine, and compiz keystrokes work, but none of my KDE shortcuts work anymore (e.g. alt-f2, or Ctrl+C) Infact Ctrl and Alt just don't work at all except for compiz shortcuts - anyone else have this issue?04:59
TobyKif I kill compiz, then the ctrl and alt keys work as normal05:00
stdinTobyK: #compiz-fusion is the place to ask05:00
TobyKok thanks05:00
mac_my os is ubuntu but who can tell me what is kubuntu??05:05
Jucato!kubuntu | mac_05:06
ubotumac_: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE05:06
darkness!KDE | mac_05:06
ubotumac_: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.05:06
sledgeMmm.... does Raid5 work with 2 x 500GB + 1 x 480GB?05:16
geniiSo long as less than 2Tb yes05:18
geniiBut you will get 480x305:18
geniix2 actually since one is checksum, etc05:19
sledgeRight.05:19
sledgeSuppose I decommission the third, the 480 gigs one, and replace it with a proper 500 GB one. I should be able to fail the drive, keep it as two disks, add the third drive, and let it rebuild. Correct?05:20
sledgeAt which point I'll a have 2x500GB = 1TB volume.05:21
ubuntuI'm running kubuntu live on my laptop .. wireless works finen but konqueror won't connect to the net .. any ideas?05:21
geniiYup, exactly05:22
genii^ sledge05:22
sledgeGood. :)05:22
sledgeI like the read throughput.05:22
sledge150 MB/s :P05:23
ubuntuare there any special settings for konqueror u have to change to get it to connect to the net .. ?05:23
geniiubuntu: No, just put a url in the top bar instead of something starting file://   or such05:24
ubuntuI did .. www.google.ca05:24
ubuntuyet I can ping just fine .. plus I'm chatting here ..05:25
sledgeubuntu: Can you open a konsole and run  iwconfig?05:25
sledgeubuntu: What's the content of /etc/resolv.conf?05:25
geniiDo other apps find domain names?05:25
ubuntuyeah just shows my that my wireless is up ... but it does say no wireless extensions on the top05:26
geniiubuntu: Did you have konq open before you enabled the wireless/network?05:27
ubuntuI just booted from livecd so etc/resolv.conf is default IO guess05:27
ubuntuI closed it and tried again05:27
geniiAh, OK05:27
geniiNo other immediate idea then05:27
sledgeubuntu: Try tracepath'ing www.google.ca05:28
sledgeAnd see were it drops out.05:28
ubuntuhmm resolv.conf has nameserver 192.168.1.1 ... thats my router I guess05:28
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sledgeubuntu: Is that the only entry? Make sure it actually _is_ your router. :P05:29
ubuntupretty sure05:30
geniiI'm 99% sure it IS the router05:30
sledgeubuntu: What about yahoo.com or ubuntu.org?05:30
ubuntufound the problem .. trace path dies after it reaches my provider ...weird as my other laptop can reach it just fine05:30
ubuntustrange05:31
sledgeubuntu: Is this the first time you're trying to use two clients at once?05:32
ubuntunope05:32
ubuntunormally I have windows on this laptop05:32
mac_who can tell me how to play wow on linux???05:32
ubuntutried ubuntu out of curiosity05:32
geniiAsk in #winehq05:32
sledgemac_: http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS4169902864.html05:33
ubuntuthanks guys05:34
sledgeubuntu: You're welcome.05:34
geniisledge: I'd forgotten wine is no longer needed LOL05:35
sledge?05:35
geniisledge: nvm, for a moment I thought there was a native linux client05:36
* genii thinks about his caffeine deficiency05:36
* ardchoille hands genii a coffee05:37
geniiardchoille: Thanks, much appreciated :)05:38
ardchoille:)05:38
* genii tips ardchoille05:38
genii;)05:38
geniiBleh. 20 to 1 in the AM05:40
ardchoilleI just made a multi-boot livedvd (kubuntu desktop cd, ubuntu desktop cd, system rescue cd, and knoppix livecd). How do I take a screenshot of the livecd boot screen menu?05:41
ardchoilleI suppose I could run it in a virtual machine and take a screenshot of that05:42
darknessardchoille: with a VM i guess05:42
Noob12356266hello06:06
Noob12356266can anybody help me install firefox in kubuntu 7.0406:06
seanixhi06:06
Noob12356266heya, can you help me install firefox in kubuntu 7.04?06:07
Dr_willissudo apt-get install firefox06:08
Dr_willisthere ya go.06:08
JucatoNoob12356266: K Menu -> Add/Remove programs. search for Firefox06:08
Noob12356266tried the first one: by dr.willis - E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.06:09
Dr_willisDid you do what it said?06:09
Dr_willisrun 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.?06:10
Noob12356266ok about to thanks06:10
spcKDEbest prog for showing temp cpu hdd etc on destop or taskbar?06:12
Dr_willis!best06:13
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.06:13
Dr_willisThers karamba applets that can do that.. or conky, or i think some kde panel applets as well06:14
AmyRoseI know I may be pointed to #ubuntu for this, but does anyone else have problems with Thunderbird freezing after about 10 minutes?06:14
spcKDEsuggested?06:14
Dr_willisDepends on what you want. I HATE desktop 'applets' :)06:14
Dr_willisi do use conky.06:14
Dr_willisgkrellm also has modules that can show that info.06:14
ubuntuDr. Willis....what program do I need to reformat the hard drive06:15
Dr_willisyou may need to install lm-sensors paclages to get the heat info.06:15
spcKDEjp06:15
spcKDEtnx06:15
Noob12356266woopee it worked!06:15
Dr_willisubuntu,   you mean 'repartition' to add new partitions? or just format a single partition?06:15
Dr_willisubuntu,  gparted/qtparted is proberly your best bet for your partioning/disk needs.06:15
ubuntuI'm running off my CD, because it's not wanting to install properly06:15
jicklesim having problems accessing my ntfs drive in kubuntu through dolphin, no problems in ubuntu however06:17
Dr_willistry accessing it through the shell?06:18
rdvon:(06:18
rdvonAmarok stopped working.06:18
rdvonafter I added a mysql database...06:18
rdvonand deleted a style.06:18
rdvonIt's been crashing alot also.06:19
rdvonis it cuz i'm using ubuntu?06:19
Dr_willisrdvon,  i doubt it.06:19
rdvondude.06:19
rdvonIt's not working. :(06:19
Dr_willisi mix up kuubntu+ubuntu and xubuntu and mythbuntu and... others.. all the time06:19
rdvonIt was a theory..06:19
Dr_willistest #1 - make a new user. see if the stuff works for them.06:20
rdvonbut what could the problem be, It's not showing anything in the terminal.06:20
Dr_willisif it does work right for them. then some how you may have some .kde config 'issues'06:20
rdvonA new user. :(06:20
Dr_willisgotta start trouble shooting somewhere.06:20
ubuntuDr. Willis:  I'm having an issue installing Kubuntu, it's having issues at about 29%06:20
rdvon:<06:20
Dr_willisI dont see how mysql would affect amarok at all.06:20
ubuntuI was thinking maybe if I reformat everything, I can start again, and it might work06:20
rdvonwat does mysql do anyways?06:20
rdvonoh, and is there anyway to start from "scratch" on amarok?06:21
Dr_willisubuntu,  you can try. use gparted to delete the existing linux partitions, so they are unallocated. You may have better luck using the alternative installer cd.06:21
Dr_willisrdvon,  remove the .kde/SOMTHING settings :)06:21
rdvonwooh06:21
rdvonthx06:21
ubuntuI can't, because I have no way to download it and burn it to disk06:21
Dr_willisrdvon,  mysql is a database06:21
rdvonI know.06:21
rdvonI use them.06:21
rdvonalot.06:21
rdvonbut what does amarok do with them.06:21
rdvonstore my music?06:22
rdvonthat'd be cool...06:22
rdvon:D06:22
Dr_willisrdvon,  ive neverheard of amarok messing with mysql at all..06:22
Dr_willisunless it uses it to some how keep played/other info on the files06:22
* Dr_willis launches amarok06:22
rdvonDr_willis: all I see in .kde is a cache file, socket file, tmp file, and a share file.06:23
rdvonI mean folder.06:23
rdvon:\06:23
rdvonooh06:23
rdvonI found config06:23
rdvonnvm06:23
Dr_willis:)06:23
rdvonDELETED06:23
darknessmaybe amarok just hanged and it didnt die properly06:23
rdvonit's still not running...06:24
rdvonI restarted the pc06:24
geniiDr_willis: You're one of the few I see both here and in #ubuntu LOL06:24
darknessyes, but even so the sessions is saved06:24
darknessthat happened to me once with kaffeine06:24
genii!helpersnack | Dr_willis06:24
ubotuDr_willis: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!06:24
rdvonhow do i stop the process.06:24
Dr_willisgenii,  :) Yep.. #ubuntu is a bit... weird tonight06:24
geniiDr_willis: marko is driving me nuts06:24
rdvonI hate that channel.. I go here for help ;)06:24
Dr_willisgenii,  yep. he really does sound a bit... well.... i wont say06:25
rdvonso how do i stop amarok?06:25
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Dr_willisrdvon,  close the program?06:25
rdvonIt's not showing up anywhere.06:25
rdvonhow do i stop the *process*06:25
rdvon;)06:25
Dr_willislook at your system tray/icons.06:25
rdvon....06:25
Dr_willisit minimizes/closes there.06:25
rdvonI know.06:25
rdvon>.>06:26
angelwith kill06:26
darknesswhat is the ksysguard equivalent in ubuntu06:26
Dr_willisif its some how crashed. use the shell, and kill it based onits pid06:26
Dr_willisps ax | grep amarok06:26
Dr_willisthen kill PID06:26
rdvonhow do i find it's pid again?06:26
rdvonPid06:27
rdvonplz06:27
Dr_willisi just showed you. :)06:27
angelin console first-- top     find name amarokapp   and see your pid06:27
Dr_willisps ax | grep amarok06:27
rdvonoh06:27
rdvonthat thing.06:27
geniirdvon: PID is the number on the left06:27
angelyes rdvon  is a number06:28
se7en_Dr_willis: how do you edit conky setting06:28
rdvonI killed 'em good.06:28
rdvon:D06:28
Dr_willisse7en_,  with a text editor. :) and a good through read of the conky website/docs on whats in the config.06:28
rdvonwewt!06:28
Dr_willisse7en_,  and lots and lots of patience and twiddling06:28
se7en_Dr_willis: couldn't find official web site06:29
Dr_willisse7en_,  look some more? :)06:29
Dr_willishttp://conky.sourceforge.net/06:29
Dr_willisfirst hit on google for 'conky' :)06:30
rdvonsoo... what does amarok do with the mysql db?06:30
flacciduses it for library iirc06:30
rdvonhmm...06:30
angelnose06:31
Dr_willisrdvon,  i cant even see where it uses mysql. :) i did discover some mood setting in amarok.06:31
ubuntu dr. willis...I'm going to try and reinstall, but I don't think it'll work06:31
ubuntuI'll relay the error message shortly06:31
rdvonflaccid: you've confused me more, please go on.06:31
Dr_willisrdvon,  wehere did ya notice any mysql info on it?06:31
Dr_willisi think hes saying it keeps the music library information  database with mysql06:32
rdvonDr_willis: either on first installation on amarok or in the settings > configure amarok > collection tab06:32
darknesshttp://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MySQL_HowTo06:32
darknessfirst hit on google with "amarok mysql"06:33
flaccidor you can use sqlite06:33
Dr_willisyea im using the default which is sqlite it seems06:33
ubuntuDr_willis:  Errno 5 Input/output error06:33
Dr_willisI guess with a HUGE library you may want to mess witht he others.06:33
flaccidi would probably only use mysql if you want/need your library in a more popular rdbms06:33
Dr_willisubuntu,  that sounds like the cd may be burnt wrongly/bad/downloaded bad.06:34
ubuntuwell, I'm screwed now06:34
ubuntuI don't have a way to download it again06:34
Dr_willisubuntu,  a lot of the linux magazines at the bookstores have ubuntu included on disk.06:34
ubuntutoo late for that tonight :(06:35
Dr_willisor find a local user group or other linux users and bum a cd from them.06:35
ubuntu10:30 here06:35
Dr_willisive given away dozens of the cd's :)06:35
rdvonoooh06:35
rdvonI know a great program if your stuck on windows... since it doesn't come with an iso burner....06:35
ubuntuno, haven't had windows in a couple years06:36
Dr_willisand you dont have a few stacks of Linux cd's laying around? :006:36
ubuntuI guess it's too much to ask that you're in San Diego, Dr. Willis?06:36
darknessor try shipit and wait 4 to 6 weeks :)06:36
Dr_willisImust have 200+ old cd's laying about.06:36
Dr_willisIn Indiana. :)06:37
ubuntuthat does me no good....it's 30 hour drive to my home in Missouri, and Indianapolis is another 7 past that06:37
rdvonI created lots of nice useless discs when figuring out which program to use to burn cds...06:38
rdvonI'm too cheap to *pay* for things. :D06:38
Dr_willisrdvon,  lots of disks with 'whatever.iso' on them :)06:38
angelk3b06:38
flaccidi just can't wait for kde4 on windows final06:38
Dr_willishttp://shop.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart06:39
ubuntubrb06:39
rdvonyay@06:39
Dr_willisI used cheapbytes a lot ages ago. :)06:39
rdvonnow i can listen to music :)06:39
angel:)06:39
rdvonFinally.06:39
flaccid!codecs06:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:39
flaccidcodecs in gutsy?06:40
rdvonI just typed in "xine" in synaptic.. checked pretty much everything.06:40
rdvon;)06:40
flaccidoh, if i just want the nonfree codecs?06:40
darknessrdvon: the same thing happened to me with kaffeine... and i didn't figure it out for about a month06:40
rdvondarkness: thanks for your help06:41
rdvonNow for some fun scripts!06:41
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rdvonomg! does copy cover write the album art to the id3 tag!?06:42
darknessyou are welcome06:42
rdvonScripts, the reason why I use amarok ;)06:43
Dr_willisnight all.06:44
angelscripts of lyric is the better :)06:44
rdvonAmarok screensaver!06:44
angel:) lyric06:45
rdvonLyric?06:45
darknesslyrc06:45
rdvoni'm trying amalyp06:45
rdvonit's like karaoke :D06:45
Noob12356266hi guys - whenever i try to use Adept Manager and try to install something the 'Apply changes" Button is grayed out. Therefore I can't install anything. I'm using 7.0406:45
angelyes06:45
angeljejeje06:45
darknessjejeje? you are latin aren't you06:46
rdvonjajajajajaja06:46
angelsoy de mexico06:46
rdvoni am from mexico!06:46
rdvon:D06:46
darknessi'm in mexico right now06:46
rdvoni'm not.06:46
darknessbut i'm not mexican06:46
rdvonme neither.06:46
angel:D06:47
Noob12356266when i start adept manager it says: You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software) because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application, apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.06:47
rdvonnoob: you need to turn off all other programs that are using the package database.06:48
angelgood night  goin a sleep06:48
angeln_n ZzZZZzZzZ06:48
darknessbuenas noches06:48
Noob12356266i think all of them are off06:48
angelGRACIAS !!!!06:48
darknesstry06:48
angelBYE06:48
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rdvontry restarting your pc then.06:48
darknessdpkg --configure -a06:48
Noob12356266tried those (both) dpkg and the restart thing06:49
rdvonhmm...06:49
rdvonhow are you running it?06:49
darknessmaybe the same thing with amarok rdvon06:49
rdvonI wouldn't think so.06:50
Noob12356266K-Menu>System>Adept Manager06:50
rdvoncould be root privileges.06:50
rdvonhmm...06:50
rdvonyeah06:50
rdvoni think your right darkness.06:50
rdvonthought you were talking about the config files.06:50
rdvonit's probably running a background process..06:50
rdvon;)06:51
KijutsuHas anyone played with the new KDE 4 Beta?06:51
Noob12356266okkk...what should i do next?06:51
jicklesis it possible to reposition windows using the keyboard?06:52
darknessNoob12356266 try       ps ax | grep adept06:52
Noob12356266ok but before i do may i know what its going to do?06:52
xt|awayhey all06:52
xt|awayi need help06:52
rdvonnoob: it's going to list all the processes adept is running >.>06:53
Jucatojickles: Alt+F306:53
Noob12356266ok06:53
xt|awayi appear to have broken something but i don't know what or how06:53
Noob12356266like this?06:53
Noob12356266 9952 ?        S      0:02 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager06:53
Noob12356266 9964 ?        Ss     0:00 sh -c adept_manager06:53
Noob12356266 9965 ?        S      1:57 adept_manager06:53
Noob1235626610077 pts/6    S+     0:00 grep adept06:53
darknessyes06:53
rdvonYeah.06:54
xt|awayi had everything working fine, and then rebooted into windows xp to play some games06:54
rdvondo you see the numbers to the left?06:54
rdvontype "kill" then the number.06:54
Noob123562664 and 5 digits yes06:54
xt|awaybooted back into kubuntu and all my ntfs partitions are empty06:54
Noob12356266umm all of them?06:54
rdvonYeah... that's what I did...06:54
rdvon;)06:55
darknesswith the 9952, 9964 and 996506:55
rdvonhe knows more.06:55
rdvonlisten to him ;(06:55
jicklesJucato, on windows I use a great program which allows me to send windows to my other monitor, resize windows to 1/3rd, half, 2/3rds of the screen, maximise windows, etc using ctrl-alt-(numpad key)... Do you know of a similar application for kubuntu?06:55
rdvonwhere would I install the kde bindings for python?06:55
xt|awayany idea what's gone wrong?06:55
Jucatojickles: sorry no06:56
rdvonooh that's happened to me before!06:56
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Noob12356266ok they're dead - adept manager disappeared06:56
rdvonnow restart it.06:56
darknessxt|away: that happens when you dont shutdown windows properly06:57
surgyim trying to compile qpadjoy from source and this is my output; http://pastebin.com/m3829d46 i have all the latest qt and qt headers can someone help plz?06:57
xt|awaydarkness: so if i reboot into windows and then quit it properly it'll all be sorted06:57
xt|away?06:57
darknessyes06:57
xt|awayexcellent, thanks06:58
Noob12356266ok i restarted it and this msg: You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.06:59
jicklesJucato, do you think it would be possible to create such an application?06:59
surgyanyone?07:00
Jucatojickles: yeah. just don't ask me how :)07:00
jicklesok :>07:00
darknessnoob: what does ps ax | grep adept show now07:00
nano_sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx07:00
Noob1235626610090 ?        S      0:01 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager07:00
Noob1235626610103 ?        Ss     0:00 sh -c adept_manager07:00
Noob1235626610104 ?        S      0:09 adept_manager07:00
Noob1235626610138 pts/6    R+     0:00 grep adept07:00
Noob12356266* i just bloody killed them all now07:00
darknessdid you use sudo when killing them?07:01
flaccidsudo kill -9 1009007:02
Noob12356266on two of them - i just restarted adept man and got the same msg:07:02
Noob12356266You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.07:02
flacciddo that on each..07:02
darknessnoob: are you on kubuntu?07:03
xt|awayvictory is mine!07:03
xt|awayby which i mean yours!07:03
Noob12356266darkness: yes07:03
Noob12356266dan@kubuntu1:~$ ps ax | grep adept07:03
Noob1235626610154 ?        S      0:01 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager07:03
Noob1235626610167 ?        Ss     0:00 sh -c adept_manager07:03
Noob1235626610168 ?        S      0:06 adept_manager07:03
Noob1235626610192 pts/6    R+     0:00 grep adept07:03
Noob12356266dan@kubuntu1:~$ sudo kill 1015407:03
Noob12356266dan@kubuntu1:~$ sudo kill 1016707:03
Noob12356266dan@kubuntu1:~$ sudo kill 1016807:03
Noob12356266dan@kubuntu1:~$ sudo kill 1019207:03
Noob12356266dan@kubuntu1:~$ ps ax | grep adept07:04
Noob1235626610203 pts/6    R+     0:00 grep adept07:04
Noob12356266dan@kubuntu1:~$07:04
flaccidsweet07:04
elio__Hi!07:04
flaccidnext time use a pastebin :)07:04
flaccidyou might also need !adeptfix if lock is still present07:04
dnbmi want to add themes to my kubuntu 7 desktop. kde-look themes does not work07:04
darknessnoob: did it work now?07:05
Noob12356266trying07:06
Noob12356266pastebin?07:06
flaccid!pastebin | Noob1235626607:06
ubotuNoob12356266: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:06
Noob12356266ok thanks - still not working07:07
darknessyou tried reeboting?07:07
flaccid!doesntwork07:07
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.07:07
darknesshahaha07:08
Noob12356266lol ok: got the same msg as above07:08
darknesseven after reeboting?07:08
flacciddid you do07:09
flaccid!adeptfix07:09
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »07:09
Noob12356266not yet rebooted will try adeptfix thing07:09
dnbmcan anybody help me with kde-look themes please?07:09
flaccid!themes07:10
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy07:10
flaccidalso see #kde07:10
dnbmthank you flaccid07:10
flaccidnp07:10
dnbm!changethemes07:12
ubotuTo change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes07:12
DM|whats the KDE equivilent to gparted07:12
darknessqtparted07:12
Noob12356266IT WORKED!07:14
darknessgreat!07:14
Noob12356266adeptfix thing did it - thanks all - thats exactly what happened - first time i tried to use adept manager to install ff2 it crashed - now it works - again thanks all for your valiant efforts07:15
darknessyou are welcome07:17
dnbmchecking for C compiler default output file name...07:17
dnbmconfigure: error: C compiler cannot create executables07:17
dnbmwhat does this mean please?07:17
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cat-ahow do i set up a progam to start up from .kde/Autostart/07:19
darknessi'm not sure if you could put a symlink there07:20
darknessbut yo could create a small script07:20
cat-aln /usr/bin/whateverprogram ???07:21
surgyi need help with qjoypad07:21
surgycompiling gives me qt errors, i can still use the compiled program after words but it seams to freeze everything as though nothing will load until i close qjoypad07:22
darknesscat-a: in the script?07:23
darknessor do you mean creating a symlink07:23
surgy?07:24
cat-ano i just set a ln pointing to the program darkness07:25
darknesssorry surgy, i don't know about qt developing07:25
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darknessgood night everybody07:26
cat-ashould work darkness but i don''t want to try now because i have a uptime of 99 days and 21h :)07:27
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oupaI have installed KDE4RC1 but get a broken package when installing kdm-kde4. Any ideas?07:40
surgycan someone help me figure out why qjoypad is slowing my computer down so badly?07:49
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zorgluq. when i create a .desktop to launch an application under kubuntu edgy, i got the 'busy bouncing icon' bouncing for a while (like 10sec) *after* the application is launched and running. how can i prevent this ?08:29
test_vista best OS08:30
test_kubuntu ubuntu bad :|08:30
test_gotune koyim ubuntu kubuntunun08:30
zorgluhehe test_ you do seem like a troll :)08:30
test_zorlu ne diyon yavrum08:30
test_zokayim kubuntuya08:31
test_bok gibi bisey08:31
Microsoftiesoh dear....08:31
test_Microsofties: :) mucx08:31
test_conqueror web browser  puhahahaha08:32
jussi01!ops08:32
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!08:32
test_msn client ? kubuntu08:33
zorglutest_: you have been reported to the local operators08:34
zorglumeanwhile my question remains :)08:35
jussi01zorglu: system settings -> keyboard and mouse -> untick visual feedback on activation08:36
test_format  disk kubuntu part. :) install vista ultimate :)08:36
test_bye bye kubuntu :|08:36
jussi01test_: please dont.08:36
test_ie7, msn, explorer,08:36
jussi01!ops | test_ is trolling08:37
ubotutest_ is trolling: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!08:37
zorglujussi01: looking but will that remove all visual feedback ?08:37
jussi01sigh08:37
jussi01zorglu: yeah08:37
zorglujussi01: well i just want it to stop in the particular case of when the apps is launched when launching an external apps :)08:38
jussi01zorglu: Im not sure you can do thet.08:38
zorglujussi01: ok thanks anyway :)08:38
jussi01zorglu:  Im sorry I cant help more08:39
zorgluthat's cool :)08:40
naliothhi zorglu08:40
zorglunalioth: hi, this was about test_ trolling. not evil guy. but trolling a bit08:40
SatManUKhow can i change adapt manager to something else - as it keeps sigterming on me?08:41
zorglujussi01 saw it too :)08:41
jussi01SatManUK: sudo aptitude install synaptic08:41
SatManUKhow do i remove the lock on : Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:43
bazhang!aptfix | SatManUK08:43
ubotuSatManUK: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »08:43
SatManUKthanks bazhang08:44
SatManUKagain..08:44
bazhangSatManUK: no worries :}08:45
SatManUK!ndiswrapper08:45
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:45
SatManUKthats the next problem to fix after i release her package database08:46
jussi01SatManUK: have fun...08:46
SatManUKim getting screamed at left right and centre for this :P08:46
ere4si!earplugs08:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about earplugs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:47
jussi01SatManUK: hehe... family members???08:47
needles!kamefu08:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kamefu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:47
SatManUK"why must you use linux, this is not a good example of linux"08:47
SatManUKjussi01: gf..08:47
SatManUK10,000 km away in Malaysia :P08:48
jussi01!info kamefu | needles08:48
ubotuneedles: kamefu: KDE All Machine Emulator Frontend for Unix - binary files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 78 kB, installed size 296 kB08:48
jussi01SatManUK: ahhh08:48
SatManUKshe just gone offline - i think she give up already and run back to windows :(08:49
SatManUKshe wouldn't give me chance to resolve her queries one by one..08:49
needlesdoes anyone know the kamefu homepage?08:49
needlesi cant find a wiki08:49
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SatManUKshe was getting sigterm errors in kopete and adapt08:50
SatManUKi know only that she is running a fujistsu laptop08:50
Noob12356266heya all kan somewun tell me how to find my second hard disk?08:50
jussi01needles:  http://kamefu.pwsp.net/08:50
needlesjussi01: i checked there, but it seems to be non active08:51
needlesits somewhat of a blank page08:51
jussi01needles: thats what is listed in the package... it may be a dead project08:51
needlesjussi01: yeah08:51
needlesim trying to figure out if it is what i think it is08:51
needleswill it play snes roms?08:51
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jussi01needles: umm, dont know - but there are plenty of other snes emulators out there08:52
needlesyeah08:52
jussi01!info zsnes08:52
ubotuzsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.510-1 (gutsy), package size 878 kB, installed size 4060 kB (Only available for i386)08:52
bazhangzsnes is better needles08:53
needlesbazhang: it is08:53
needlesdoes it play nintendo 64 roms?08:53
needleswhats a good n64 emu for linux08:53
needlesthats another part of the deal08:53
bazhangnot sure there needles08:53
jussi01needles: I dont think there is one08:55
needlesi guess i can wine one08:55
jussi01not in the repos anyway - i would search google, maybe there is something out there08:55
needlesjussi01: yeah, for sure08:56
jussi01needles: actually kamefu will do 6408:56
needlesthis has problemed someone before me08:56
jussi01needles: have you tred kamefu?08:57
needlesjussi01: im giving it a spin right now08:58
needlesits not really recognizing my n64 roms08:58
jussi01oh08:58
_titanix88hey who is using titanix88?08:59
_titanix88hey who is using titanix88?08:59
jussi01_titanix88: I dont know, but you can ghost it if it is registered08:59
needlesjussi01: its a frontend08:59
needlesnot an actual emu08:59
needlesdidnt read that part08:59
needlesi*09:00
jussi01_titanix88: ie. /ns ghost username password09:00
_titanix88i am the registered user!09:00
jussi01_titanix88: yeah, just give that command and it will die09:01
jussi01substituting the parts you need to of course09:01
_titanix88jussi thnx!it worked.09:04
jussi01_titanix88: now just change your nick!09:04
_titanix88how ?09:04
jussi01 /nick newnickname09:05
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titanix88again thnx, jussi0109:08
jussi01:)09:08
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titanix88any game related channel?09:17
titanix88i mean linux games.09:18
titanix88i mean linux games.09:18
bazhang!games09:18
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php09:18
titanix88irc channel09:19
bazhang!irc09:19
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines09:19
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fastfwdWould anyone be able to tell me why, after installing Kubuntu and running the update manager, I keep getting the message that there is a version-upgrade available while I'm already running 7.10?09:23
bazhangis that bug still around? strange09:23
jussi01fastfwd: hust try upgrade and it should go away09:24
fastfwdSo it's a known bug?09:24
jussi01yes09:24
fastfwdI tried just upgrading, but if stops somewhere in the middle and refuses to do anything after that09:24
fastfwdif=it09:24
fastfwdCan you point me to some documentation about this?09:25
jussi01fastfwd: go search on Launchpad.net09:25
jussi01fastfwd: there is a bug there somewhere09:25
SatManUKok were back online (Bad Weather in Malaysia caused internet failure)09:31
SatManUKrunning this command now  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a09:31
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JackWinterhiya.  is there a way to boost the priority of a program running in wine?  i have an audio application, that suffers when i do alot in other applications. running gutsy with the rt kernel if relevant.09:41
ere4si!nice09:45
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal09:45
thomax_homax09:46
Tm_TJackWinter: hi09:51
JackWinterhi tm_t09:54
Tm_T!away > JackWinter09:54
SatManUKhow do i manually install a package - telling the package manager where to find the dependent file?09:55
SatManUKie install game and game-data09:55
JackWintergotta admit i'm a noob. i tried "nice -n -20 wine etc" & get a "nice: cannot set niceness: Permission denied"09:55
ere4siuse sudo first09:56
ere4sie.g. sudo (command)09:56
JackWinterok, but i don't wanna run my wine application as su?09:56
JackWinterok, i'll man sudo aswell ;-)09:57
ere4sisudo is used only for the command that follows it09:57
JackWinterah, cool.  didn't know that.09:57
ere4sisudo -s    is the command to make you root  - if you will pardon the expression :)09:58
JackWinteri did "sudo nice -n -20 wine reaper.exe", but reaper is running as root?10:01
ere4siI don't do wine - apologies - don't know where to lead you for that10:04
Jucato#winehq of course :)10:04
ere4siif I did wine I would have known that `_`10:07
JackWinteri suppose that "sudo nice -n -20 wine" gets wine running as su, so whatever application wine runs will run the same10:07
JackWinterno apologies needed, thanksful for all help!10:07
ere4sisudo will let you have admin permission - it doesn't let a prog run as root10:08
titanix88clearly most ubuntu users are north american!hmm...10:08
ere4sisudo nice  means let me have permission to set the priority for a program10:09
JackWinterwhen i check reaper.exe in system guard, it reports reaper running as root login?10:09
ere4si#winehq is your best bet then10:09
bazhangnot so titanix8810:09
JackWinterok, thanks guys!10:10
ere4sithought this was #kubuntu10:10
bazhangmany asian users of kubuntu/ubuntu but this is way #offtopic10:11
titanix88bazhang: i find #kubuntu inactive when it is midnight at north america.10:11
bazhangtitanix88: not inactive--just your questions are too difficult :}10:12
titanix88ok ok off it goes...10:12
titanix88lol :d khek khek khek10:13
titanix88guys i cant wait for kde4!:)10:15
titanix88guys i cant wait for kde4!:)10:15
bazhangget the live cd now then10:16
titanix88live cdv10:16
_Carlo_hi, i'm having problem installing kde4 rc1, libclucene0 conflict with libclucene0ldbl10:19
emilsedgh!brokenkde410:20
ubotuIf you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »10:20
WaltzingAlong!brokenkde4 | _Carlo_10:22
ubotu_Carlo_: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »10:22
_Carlo_i've already remove everithing, btw i'm using herdy maybe that's the problem10:23
JackWintersorry guys no answer in winehq.  i tried "sudo nice -n -20 konsole", this makes konsole run as a su?10:24
WaltzingAlongJackWinter: if you could start the process of wine then with sudo change the niceness with renice        (and the answer to your question seems to be yes)10:26
WaltzingAlong_Carlo_: this is not (yet) a support channel for kubuntu 8.0410:27
JackWinterok, renice would work.  the only problem is i don't know how to write a script to parse the pid.  i'll see if i can learn ;-)10:29
_Carlo_WaltzingAlong: yeah i know, btw i've resolved specifying to install strigi/clucene from ppa and not herdy repository10:30
SatManUKis there a native driver for an Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5413 802.11abg NIC10:33
SatManUKmy gf doesn't have the windows driver and i can't find it in driver guide..10:34
SatManUK!ndiswrapper10:36
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:36
ere4siSatManUK: they should have the driver on there site10:41
SatManUKi can't find any dirvers on their site at all..10:42
SatManUKno technical - only pdf and docs..10:42
SatManUKi thought about fujitsu website10:42
SatManUKbut she doesn't have the model number of the laptop10:43
ere4siSatManUK: I have luck with google and typing e.g. atheros wireless in ubuntu - usually find a howto :)10:43
WaltzingAlongSatManUK: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Devices10:45
acemothe new packages of kde4 are compatible with the old packages? as in.. if i update them i wont screw up like how it would screw up when u go from beta3 to rc1?10:45
Tm_Tacemo: no, you have to remove old packages first10:45
Tm_Tacemo: see http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php10:46
acemoTm_T: i got rc1 already10:46
Tm_Tyes yes10:46
acemoTm_T: but there are new updates for it10:46
Tm_Tthen update :)10:46
acemoTm_T: kinda scared to screw it up again =P10:47
Tm_Tit's still same version10:47
acemoTm_T: alrighty10:47
WaltzingAlongacemo: you should remove kde4beta3 before installing the kde4rc110:47
WaltzingAlong!brokenkde4  > acemo10:47
acemoWaltzingAlong: i know.. !brokenkde4 got made after i screwed up the 1st time ;)10:48
Tm_Tmeh10:48
WaltzingAlongoh :D10:48
Tm_TWaltzingAlong: jumpy :)10:48
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Tm_Tmoi pennola10:49
pennolamoi vaan :)10:49
pag!fi | pennola10:49
ubotupennola: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi10:49
Tm_Tpag: ouch10:50
pennolathanks for info ;)10:50
pagTm_T, sorry. didn't mean to hurt you ;P10:50
pennolamany alternatives10:50
Tm_Tyup10:50
pennolaja mitä merkitystä jos puhuu suomeksikin?10:51
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pagpennola, please.. this is English only channel.10:51
pennolaeller på svenska, det där språket är ju vårt andra officielt språk :)10:51
pennolaokay okay10:51
Hirvinenpennola: tuhma10:51
Hirvinen(sorry)10:51
SatManUKim downloading madwifi - hopefully it should do the job10:59
sandsmarkanyone know when the kde4 rc1 packages will come to gutsy-backports?11:00
Tm_Twhen ready11:01
sandsmark:P11:01
Tm_Tthat said, it should no more than few days11:01
Riddellrather when the buildds bother11:01
sandsmarkok11:01
Tm_TRiddell: that's what I meant11:01
sandsmarkbut the builds in the ppa are usable?11:01
Tm_Tyes11:01
Riddellyes, ppa is fine11:01
black884hey11:03
pag!hi | black88411:03
ubotublack884: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!11:03
ScorpKinghi guys! :) is there a way to save flash player webpages to the disk? where is the cache for konqueror?11:04
jickleshow do I use katapult?11:10
emilsedghjickles: press alt+space11:11
Tm_Talt+space -> write app11:11
jicklesemilsedgh, doesn't seem to do anything11:11
emilsedghjickles: then type the first characters of the name of the programs you want to launch, or the song you want to listen11:11
jicklesit brings up the application menu, 'Advanced', 'To Desktop' etc11:12
jickles 11:13
jickleshmm, it does seem to be running11:14
jicklesbut it's not catching the alt-space11:15
jicklesemilsedgh, is it supposed to just run in the background?11:18
emilsedghjickles: yes, do this, run katapult, it will tell you that what is its shortcut11:19
loguser1how can i know what ports are forwarded by the router. (iam a client) cant reach server11:19
jicklesjickles, ah ok I fixed it, it was because I had kde set to 'windows feel' which maps alt-space to show application menu11:20
jicklesoops, I mean emilsedgh11:20
emilsedghoh11:20
emilsedghjickles: so you should change katapults shortcut11:20
jicklesit's ok11:21
jicklesI just removed the other shortcut11:21
jickleshmm, katapult seems okay, I prefer the google desktop interface though really where you get a list of items11:21
loguser1any one?11:22
grul!ntfs11:25
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE11:25
grul!ntfs-3g11:25
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions11:25
ere4siloguser1: if you have a multiport router and your comps ip address is e.g. 192.168.0.2 then type in the browser - 192.168.0.1  - and that should take you to your router config page - there will be an option there to find the forwarded ports11:25
loguser1well . its not going to that page. errors of page11:26
WaltzingAlongloguser1: http://www.portforward.com/11:27
loguser1ok. how about i make a tunnel of by ssh and eliminate all problems of  ports that are unforwarded.11:29
oupa!kde411:29
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php11:29
WaltzingAlongloguser1: man ssh11:29
loguser1k11:30
loguser1but by thinking is right.. ?11:30
loguser1is it.?11:31
loguser1by that can i use any port?11:32
ere4siyep - ssh or make nfs mounts would be my suggestions11:32
loguser1ere4si:  an i get get a free shh server.. right?11:33
loguser1nfs mounts. whats that?11:33
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arashHi, I want to move some filed and folders to my external Hard drive, but I get a error every time it passes by a file with the letters å/ä/ö , how can I override this?11:35
ere4sissh server is in synaptic - nfs is an unencrypted file sharing method that is not recommended unless behind a firewall e.g. router11:35
ere4sihttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html11:36
ere4sia howto11:36
loguser1 where can i see which ports are forwarded when i log in the routers page?11:40
arashloguser1, eh, u use a DLink?, I do and for me it's in Advanced tab11:41
loguser1arash:  yeh. where next in advanced tab?11:41
arashloguser1: virtual server11:42
arashloguser1: At least that I think is what they mean by 'forwarded'11:42
WaltzingAlong!info sshfs11:43
WaltzingAlongalso fish:/ and sftp:/ kio-slaves in konqueror11:43
loguser1theres no virtual server11:43
ubotusshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7-2.1 (gutsy), package size 34 kB, installed size 120 kB11:44
arashloguser1: U got D-Link?11:44
loguser1ya11:44
arashhmm, in top row you first select advanded then in lfet row you choose virtual server, actually virtual server is in the top so it get automatically selected11:45
arashloguser1: did it workf or ya+11:49
arash?11:49
loguser1wait11:50
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Grexeohow do I connect to a hidden WPA-AES network?11:52
loguser1http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1552/snapshot2pq9.jpg            what to put and where to put11:53
WaltzingAlongloguser1: what do you want to accomplish in the end? an incoming port is forwarded from the internet to your computer through your router?11:55
WaltzingAlong!wifi | Grexeo12:02
ubotuGrexeo: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:02
[ifr0g]!java12:06
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.12:06
xt|awayhow do you input the ascii characters in kate?12:34
xt|awayon windows i can use alt+xxxx, what's the linux equivalent?12:34
blendtuxi know you can do it in gn0me xt|away12:38
xt|awayis there no way in kde?  it'd be an odd thing to leave out12:41
Jucatoxt|away: http://www.astro.ufl.edu/it/docs/intl-keyboard.html12:41
F3000Hi! I got such a problem that when I open Restricted Drivers from System settings, it says that "Module Restricted drivers cannot be loaded." "Possible reasons: -Previous KDE-update had an error, that left lone control module. -Computer has old third party module." Trick is, that this computer is few days old. I think that something is missing from the system. Anyone got any idea about what to do?12:41
F3000*few weeks.12:42
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Armakidonplease help12:46
LynoureArmakidon: just type your question, and then wait.12:46
iceEraomg:P12:46
iceErahow do i check what type i have of kde?12:47
JucatoiceEra: Help -> About KDE on any KDE app12:47
Armakidoni'm russian i not speak english12:47
Armakidon:((((((((((12:47
Jucato!ru | Armakidon12:47
Jucatoer... where's the bot?12:47
ubotuArmakidon: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke12:47
iceEraty :)12:47
Jucatooh there12:47
xt|awaythanks Jucato, oddly intuitive system12:48
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knulfine!de12:53
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:53
SatManUKi am trying install madwifi into kubuntu but its giving me errors13:02
SatManUKdo i need to kernel source installed?13:02
SatManUKand then how to do it?13:02
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jickleshmm, how could I make my titlebar height smaller?13:12
Jucatosame answer jickles :)13:13
WaltzingAlongSatManUK:  http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu13:19
ShapeshifterI want to use kdialog in ubuntu for some reason but I get a lot of errors (about alacarte and kio) and a lot of output about OggS-SEEK. What is all this stuff? How can I fix this?13:20
WaltzingAlongSatManUK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi13:20
SatManUKwe have installed madwifi-tools13:20
jickleshmm, the top themes on kde-look.org are for 'beryl emerald'. Is it possible to use those ?13:21
SatManUKUbuntu ships madwifi in the restricted component, which is enabled in the default install. Madwifi chipsets should therefore ‘just work’.13:22
SatManUK In case you did a manual install, try installing linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) and that’s it.13:22
WaltzingAlong!find madwifi13:22
ubotuFound: madwifi-tools13:22
SatManUKyes installed them..13:22
WaltzingAlongSatManUK: !pastebin the results of iwconfig13:23
SatManUKim waiting for her to send them to me now then i will pastbin.ca then13:25
SatManUKno wireless extensions13:25
harmentalany kde 4 RC1 testers in here?13:26
WaltzingAlongSatManUK: how about lspci / lsusb is the unit correctly recognized?13:26
WaltzingAlongharmental: yes using some of kde4rc113:26
harmentalWaltzingAlong: is it stable?13:26
harmentaldid you follow kubuntu howto?13:26
SatManUKlspci - 08:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5413 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)13:27
WaltzingAlongharmental: it is installed and works well on here13:27
harmentalWaltzingAlong: did you follow kubuntu howto?13:28
WaltzingAlongSatManUK: and sudo modprobe madwifi  seems to work?13:28
WaltzingAlongharmental: yes13:28
SatManUKtrying it now..13:29
SatManUKFATAL: Module madwifi not found13:29
SatManUKwe installed madwifi-tools13:30
WaltzingAlongSatManUK: and linux-restricted-modules ?13:30
harmentalWaltzingAlong: i keep getting13:31
harmentalErr http://ppa.launchpad.net gutsy/ Packages13:31
harmental  404 Not Found13:31
WaltzingAlongharmental: while i did follow the instructions apparently you did not?13:31
SatManUKi just asked her to install that - she wondered off for 1 min i will ask her when she gets back :P13:31
harmentalWaltzingAlong: dohh...i've missed "main"13:33
harmentalsorry13:33
nosrednaekimhaha.... stupid next-gen ipods.... I just zapped my bro's with amarok13:35
WaltzingAlongharmental: ok so it works now13:35
harmentalWaltzingAlong: yep...so far so good13:36
SatManUKlinux-restricted-modules installed - trying modprobe - madwifi again13:37
nosrednaekimSatManUK: the module name is "ath_pci13:39
SatManUKso i modprobe ath_pci?13:39
nosrednaekimSatManUK: correct, make sure its not already in thekernel with " lsmod | grep ath"13:39
nosrednaekimand make sure you aren't running ndiswrapper as well.13:40
SatManUKi haven't even touched ndiswrapper13:40
SatManUKwe don't have the drivers13:40
nosrednaekimok13:40
BluesKajHowdy13:41
freshhey whatz up?13:41
nosrednaekimhey BluesKaj13:41
BluesKajhi nosrednaekim, fresh...coffee!13:41
SatManUKi think she just needs to give me a shell account on her pc - its easier to do things myself..13:42
freshsomehey blueskaj13:42
fresh;)13:42
SatManUKath_rate_sample        14208  113:42
SatManUKath_pci                98336  013:42
SatManUKwlan                  206660  4 wlan_scan_sta,ath_rate_sample,ath_pci13:42
SatManUKath_hal               192720  3 ath_rate_sample,ath_pci13:42
freshi am at the first time with kubuntu in irc-chat13:42
SatManUKnow sudo modprobe ath_pci13:42
freshand it looks good!13:43
fresh :-)13:43
nosrednaekimSatManUK: no,no need to modprobe.... its in there.13:43
SatManUKso she should now have wifi access in ip addr?13:43
nosrednaekimfresh: your first time in IRC,or your first time in kubuntu?13:43
freshin irc13:44
A-L-A-R-Mmodprobr loads a module and after a reboot it needs to be loaded again or it loads automaticaly ?13:44
freshsorry, i can`t speak very well english, because iam german13:45
sandsmark!de13:45
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de13:45
SatManUKi don't speak any english and no need to apologise..13:45
BluesKajnosrednaekim, lotta windows users haven't discovered IRC cuz of the IM apps ... i knoww some that have had windows pcs for 5 yrs and still don't know what irc is> :)13:45
A-L-A-R-Mbeing a german doesnt stop you from learning english :)13:45
* sandsmark is norwegian, and is kind of getting the hang of this inglirs thing13:45
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fresh;)13:46
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nosrednaekimSatManUK: well, maybe, your chipset may not be supported, pastebin the output of "iwconfig" and "iwlist ath0 scan"13:46
onishidatoE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)13:47
onishidatoE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?13:47
onishidatoReading package lists... Done13:47
onishidatoBuilding dependency tree13:47
onishidatoReading state information... Done13:47
onishidatoReading extended state information13:47
onishidatoInitializing package states... Done13:47
onishidatoBuilding tag database... Done13:47
onishidatoE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)13:47
onishidatoE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?13:47
onishidatoi don't know what's wrong with it13:47
BluesKaj!adeptfix | onishidato13:47
ubotuonishidato: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »13:47
onishidatoonishidato@Annie:~$ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a13:48
onishidato                     USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND13:48
onishidato/var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       5374 F.... adept_manager13:48
onishidatoKill process 5374 ? (y/N)13:48
sandsmark!pastebin | onishidato13:48
onishidatowhat can i do next?13:48
ubotuonishidato: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)13:48
onishidatosorry13:48
sandsmarkonishidato: press "y" and [ENTER]13:49
A-L-A-R-Mit doesnt accept the " "13:49
A-L-A-R-Mwhat do i do now ?13:49
SatManUKhttp://www.pastebin.ca/79365113:49
A-L-A-R-Mwrote also [Enter] doesnt work13:49
mzolisihi13:50
mzolisiall13:50
SatManUKnosrednaekim: http://www.pastebin.ca/79365113:51
SatManUKA-L-A-R-M: that means press y13:54
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onishidatohow can i write Vietnamese on Kubuntu??13:55
WaltzingAlong!vietnamese13:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vietnamese - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:56
WaltzingAlong!scim13:56
ubotuChinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM13:56
xalhi13:58
xali've got Gutsy Gibbon, I installed kde4 packages available in repo,13:58
onishidatofile:///home/onishidato/Desktop/x-unikey-1.0.3b-FC4.i586.rpm13:58
WaltzingAlongxal: hi13:58
xalhow can I run kde 4 now?13:58
xalin menu session of kdm there is no entry for kde413:58
onishidatohow can i rum a rpmfile?13:59
WaltzingAlongxal: you wish to have a full kde4rc1 session? then follow the rest of the instructions for just that.13:59
WaltzingAlongxal: you need to make it13:59
onishidatorpm file13:59
WaltzingAlong!info alien | onishidato13:59
ubotuonishidato: alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.68 (gutsy), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB13:59
harmentalWaltzingAlong: when i do xterm i get14:00
harmentalXephyr cannot open host display. Is DISPLAY set?14:00
harmentalxterm Xt error: Can't open display: :114:00
nosrednaekimSatManUK: err sorry got distracted... will take a look at that14:00
xalWaltzingAlong: im not registered :) there's no package kdm-kde414:01
nosrednaekimxal: there are instructions on the kubuntu website14:01
xalok, thanks, i'll chek it out14:01
nosrednaekimSatManUK: are you sure your wireless switch is on?14:02
SatManUKwhat do you mean?14:02
SatManUKwhat wireless switch?14:02
WaltzingAlongSatManUK: the item to which the wireless card is to connect14:02
xalhmm14:02
SatManUKits a combined wireless / wired router - the wireless is on..14:03
WaltzingAlongxal: so according to the instructions, how far did you get?14:03
nosrednaekimSatManUK: err what? what exactly is it? is it connected to your computer via ethernet?14:04
SatManUKthe wireless router?14:04
SatManUKis a wireless / wired home router14:04
SatManUKand yes its connected to the gf computer atm via ethernet but she wants to go wireless14:05
WaltzingAlongSatManUK: ok so disable encryption (for now) then connect  via  sudo iwconfig ath0 essid 'my router' enc off14:06
nosrednaekimSatManUK: and she has a wireless card in the computer?14:07
SatManUKits on board wireless14:07
nosrednaekimok, and do you have the windows drivers for it?14:07
SatManUKno14:08
SatManUKshe is dissabling security on the router atm14:08
SatManUKis that with or without ' ' WaltzingAlong14:09
WaltzingAlongeither may work14:09
nosrednaekimSatManUK: removing security won't help...14:11
xalumm14:11
SatManUKshe doesn't have the windows drivers14:11
xalWaltzingAlong: i have to erase packages that i installed from repo, yes?14:11
WaltzingAlong!brokenkde4 | xal, if you had kde4beta3 installed before, yes14:12
ubotuxal, if you had kde4beta3 installed before, yes: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »14:12
SatManUKim confused.. WaltzingAlong you said to dissable security in the wireless router - but nosrednaekim you say it won't work so...14:12
xalI don't know what i've installed14:12
nosrednaekimWaltzingAlong: disabling ecryption won't help as the card doesn't even see the AP, its a common problem with atheros cards and their transmit radios14:12
xali ran synaptic and installed kde4 packages14:13
xalnothing else14:13
nosrednaekimSatManUK: I have  atheros card myself, and I know the symptoms of a not-working card better14:13
SatManUKok :)14:13
WaltzingAlongnosrednaekim: but of course. and at the same time i have had cards show results with iwlist scan but still could connect if i specified the ap14:13
osman47!de14:13
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de14:13
WaltzingAlongSatManUK: ok follow nosrednaekim's lead14:13
nosrednaekimWaltzingAlong: yeah me too, but it says "Scaning not supported"14:14
nosrednaekimSatManUK: so, do you have the windows drivers for this card?14:14
xalWaltzingAlong: it's 3.94 so it's beta 4 yes?14:14
SatManUKnosrednaekim: where can i find the driver cd - she doesn't even have the model number14:14
SatManUKno accessable driver cd14:15
SatManUKits in Kuala Lumpur and she is in Kuching..14:15
SatManUK2 hour flight from each other..14:15
SatManUKso i need to find the driver online..14:15
nosrednaekimSatManUK: well, generally, all atheros cards use the same driver, a generic atheros window driver should work.14:15
SatManUKwould you happen to have one then?14:15
nosrednaekimSatManUK: run "sudo lshw" and see if you can get the model # from that14:15
xali'm not interested of downloading hundreds of MBs again, i've got slow connection. how can i run kde4 that i've already installed?14:15
judehow can i install gnome themes14:16
SatManUKi know the atheros model number - but not the laptop14:16
nosrednaekimSatManUK: ok, what is the model #14:16
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SatManUKEthernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5413 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)14:17
ShishKababHello... Could anyone help me with the new KDE4 RC1 packages?14:17
ardchoilleksal: That tutorial tells you how to run a kde4 session14:17
WaltzingAlongShishKabab: other than following the instructions at http://www.kubuntu.org ?14:17
ShishKababYes14:17
ksalardchoille: but it's for rc1 and packages for it are installed in some other source.14:17
harmentalWaltzingAlong: when you installed kdm-kde4, which default manager did you select?14:17
nosrednaekimSatManUK: ok, does the machine have windows on it?14:17
SatManUKyes14:18
judehow to install new gnome themes?? please help14:18
WaltzingAlongharmental: that one but does not matter i am told it will use kdm14:18
WaltzingAlong!themes | jude14:18
ubotujude: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy14:18
judethanks14:18
ardchoilleksal: rc1 is all that is available right now14:18
ShishKababWaltzingAlong: I can run a KDE4 session perfectly.. But I have another problem.14:18
ardchoilleksal: Did you copy the .desktop file?14:19
ksalardchoille: but it's not in repo14:19
harmentalWaltzingAlong: so I should select kdm-kde4 then?14:19
WaltzingAlongharmental: either or should be fine14:19
nosrednaekimSatManUK: the wireless driver is there somewhere, probably something like /windows/win32/802agb,i'mn also looking for some drivers on the internet for you.14:19
ardchoilleksal: Did you perform the last <li> of the tutorial?14:19
harmentalWaltzingAlong: ok.....here we go14:19
ksalardchoille: geez, no! this morning i've installed kde4 packaged available in regular repos, i didn't add any other sources! i didn't read that tutorial14:20
ksali juts installed packages, that seems to be beta 414:20
harmentalWaltzingAlong: f***...."There was an error comiting changes"14:20
ardchoilleksal: You didn't read that tutorial? Read that tutorial and you'll learn how to start a kde4 session14:21
WaltzingAlongharmental: with postint?14:21
WaltzingAlongharmental: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.postinst; sudo aptitude -f install14:21
ShishKababWaltzingAlong: I can't compile my KDE4 app anymore. It fails saying that KDE4Internal_DIR is not set... In which packages can I find the right CMake modules?14:21
dthackerwe need a kde4 channel14:21
ksalardchoille: i think i'll refuse.....14:21
nosrednaekimShishKabab: did you follow the instructions from the KDE4 svn?14:21
SatManUKso create one..14:21
nosrednaekimdthacker: ;)14:22
hydrogenno14:22
hydrogenwe don't.14:22
harmentalWaltzingAlong: I did that and everything seems ok....14:22
WaltzingAlongShishKabab: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4  ?14:22
nosrednaekimSatManUK: get the driver from the link on this page http://en.opensuse.org/Atheros_ndiswrapper14:23
ShishKababNo.. I tried that 3 times and it fails on me every time... I just use the packagees and normally it's fine14:23
nosrednaekimSatManUK: and if you use ndiswrapper, you need to blacklist ath_pci14:23
SatManUKi have to say i do wish there was an opesuse server in Georgia - i didn't get nearly as many sigterm errors in Suse 10.2/10.314:24
nosrednaekimShishKabab: oh... well maybe you should try #kde4-deve14:24
SatManUKas i am getting in Kubuntu14:24
SatManUKbut i had some pc's stolen and they trashed my dvd's14:24
nosrednaekim<_<14:24
ShishKababOsn't this a Kubuntu package problem?14:24
Tm_Twhat?14:25
nosrednaekimShishKabab: it may be, may not be.... #kde4-devel can tell you for certain14:25
ShishKababOk... Sorry for knocking on the wrong door :)14:25
Tm_Tnp14:25
Tm_Twell partly right door14:26
ShishKababI will try at #kde4-devel and see what they have to say... Thnx for your time!14:26
nosrednaekimbut its a duplex, and we are the downstairs ;)14:26
Tm_Tnosrednaekim: I'm not14:27
apowstarting kde 414:28
apow*cross fingers*14:28
SatManUK!ndiswrapper14:33
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs14:33
* genii sips a large coffee14:39
lucentdreamhello, is the medibuntu repository recommended for use with gutsy or should i use another repository? or shall even install eg. w32codecs manually with dpkg?14:42
SatManUKnosrednaekim: i unpacked the inf and cat files - and installed the ndiswrapper common, tools and gtk14:43
nosrednaekim!medibuntu14:43
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org14:43
nosrednaekimSatManUK: ok14:43
nosrednaekimlucentdream: I think its safe14:43
lucentdreamok thanks.14:44
SatManUKi found in applications - system - windows wireless driver14:46
SatManUKso i am going to run that14:46
SatManUKdo i need to remove all the madwifi stuff?14:46
nosrednaekimSatManUK: yeah, that would be good, and disable the ath_pci module in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common14:47
SatManUKhow to disable it?14:51
hotriceneed help upgrading to kde414:52
SatManUKbrb14:52
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nosrednaekimhotrice: did you read the kubuntu tutorial?14:54
hotriceyes14:55
hotriceI can't install kdm-kde4 for some reason14:57
hotriceI get this error: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)14:58
dmeojsalut tlm14:58
hotriceI've completed all the steps in the instructions14:58
dmeojhi everybody14:58
hotriceactually, I couldn't get Xephyr to work either14:58
tekteendmeoj: ji14:59
tekteenhi*14:59
nosrednaekimhotrice: yeah,I saw a complaint about that... just a sec.14:59
hotriceoh you saw that on ubuntuforums.org?14:59
nosrednaekimhotrice: "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.postinst; sudo aptitude -f install"15:00
nosrednaekimhotrice: no... in the scrollback ;)15:00
hotriceok will try that now15:00
dmeojtekteen: could you help me?15:00
tekteen!ask | dmeoj15:01
ubotudmeoj: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)15:01
dmeojubotu: ok15:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:01
tekteen!ubotu15:01
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots15:01
hotriceok15:01
dmeojI am beginner and I would like to change Konqueror in Kubuntu15:01
lounge-aboutquick question, how do i make mplayer play songs randomly15:01
hotriceshould I try to reinstall kdm-kde4?15:01
tekteenchange?15:01
dmeojI would like to install Firefox15:02
tekteenok15:02
tekteenopen up a konsole15:02
dmeojI got a tar g file15:02
nosrednaekimhotrice: thats what that just did :D15:02
dmeojok15:02
dmeojtekteen: and then ?15:02
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tekteennow copy and paste "sudo apt-get install firefox"15:03
tekteenthen press enter15:03
tekteenenter your password15:03
tekteenand wait15:03
hotricewell I got an error and it didn't install15:03
ardchoilledmeoj: and then get rid of the tar file of firefox, you don't need it15:03
tekteen(I type slow)15:03
xt|awayi just compiled, make'd and make installed libvisual and libvisual-plugins and amarok is still telling me that i don't have libvisual or any plugins installed.  help?15:03
tekteenty, ardchoille15:03
ardchoilleyw tekteen15:04
nosrednaekimhotrice: oh humm.15:04
hotriceI got this: rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.postinst': No such file or directory15:04
hotricethen this: No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.15:04
nosrednaekimhotrice: oh....ok try reinstalling kdm-kde4 then.15:04
hotriceok15:04
patricio16:03:28: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [smb://root@192.168.123.253/file.avi]16:03:28: xine: input plugin cannot open MRL [smb://root@192.168.123.253/file.avi]16:03:28: xine: found input plugin : CIFS/SMB input plugin based on libsmbclient15:05
hotriceWhen trying to reinstall it I got this:15:05
hotricedpkg: error processing kdm-kde4 (--configure):15:05
hotrice subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 115:05
hotriceErrors were encountered while processing:15:05
hotrice kdm-kde415:05
hotriceE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)15:05
lounge-aboutquick question, how do i make mplayer play songs randomly15:06
dmeojtekteen: thanks15:06
patriciocan I not use xine to play files that are on remote hosts in the lan?15:06
SatManUKback15:06
dmeojardchoille: thx15:06
tekteendmeoj: np15:07
dmeojtekteen: It running now15:07
tekteencool15:07
dmeojtekteen: if I want for example to install another software is it the same procedure ?15:07
tekteenyep15:07
dmeojtekteen: what is now happening with konqueror ?15:08
dmeojtekteen: should I uninstall15:08
SatManUKnosrednaekim: how to disable madwifi in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modlues-common15:08
tekteenno15:08
nosrednaekimhotrice: hmmm I don't15:08
nosrednaekimknow15:08
tekteenIt is a useful file manager15:08
nosrednaekimSatManUK: just put "ath_pci15:08
fritzI have a question15:08
nosrednaekimSatManUK: in the between the quotes after disabled_modues15:09
tekteendmeoj: u want to see a cool feature in *ubuntu15:09
fritzI try to use adept and it tells me that I already have it running or something to that effect15:09
hotriceok thanks15:09
fritzhow do I get adept running to update15:09
fritz(I just turned the machine on and have not run anything15:10
dmeojtekteen: yes15:10
tekteendmeoj: type "thunderbird" in the terminal and it will tell u how to get the program15:10
tekteendmeoj: it tells u with every program u want15:11
fritzcan someone help15:11
dmeojtekteen: It doesnt exist15:12
ricardo_WaltzingAlong: its harmental....15:12
pag!aptfix | fritz15:12
ubotufritz: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:12
ricardo_i'm writing from kde 415:12
tekteenodd15:12
tekteentype wine instead15:12
fritzgreat thanks15:12
ricardo_where are all my startup defaults? my file associations? conky???15:12
ricardo_WaltzingAlong: please help me here......how can i recover all that?15:13
dmeojtekteen: same response15:13
nosrednaekimricardo_: its probably using your .kde415:14
nosrednaekimwaht you need to do is set your KDEHOME to .kde. but that CAN mess up some settings15:14
tekteendoes it say this "The program 'juice' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:15:14
tekteensudo apt-get install juice15:14
tekteen"15:14
dmeojtekteen: I am using kubuntu 6.10.1 alternate cd and I have updated at the beginning15:14
tekteenok15:14
xt|awaycould i get a quick hand with something?15:14
tekteenIt only works with 7.04 and up15:15
dmeojtekteen: how can I update the os ?15:15
xt|awayanyone?15:16
pagxt|away, just aske the question :)  (and please don't use away nicks)15:16
fritzwell, now adept wont even load now15:16
tekteendo u what to upgrade to a new version?15:16
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ricardo_nosrednaekim: is there an easy way to rollback to kde 3.5.8 and to old configs?15:16
xt828i just compiled, make'd and make installed libvisual and libvisual-plugins and amarok is still telling me that i don't have libvisual or any plugins installed.  what am i doing wrong?15:16
fritzpag: what do I do now?15:17
fritzpag: adept now wont load15:17
pagxt828, you probably got the path wrong.. try installing libvisual-0.4-0 from the repos15:17
dmeojtekteen: I do not fully understand what you are trying to tell me15:18
nosrednaekimricardo_: back up your .kde15:18
dmeojtekteen: I am not english in fact15:18
fritzI did the flash install, but at the end it said it was installed with errors15:18
pagfritz, open konsole and type "sudo apt-get install -f"  see if it gives any errors..15:18
dmeojtekteen: or american15:18
fritzok15:18
tekteendmeoj: ok15:18
tekteendmeoj: are you using "dapper"?15:19
dmeojtekteen: yes15:19
tekteenok15:19
tekteenthe new one is gutsy15:19
nosrednaekimxt828: I think you should probably install them from the repositories15:20
dmeojgutsy doesnt exist in alternate cd ?15:20
fritzpag: cool, no errors and it looked like it installed15:20
ricardo_nosrednaekim: do you mean the /home/user/.kde folder?15:20
tekteenyes it does15:20
xt828aha!  repositories + brain turned on = win, thanks pag15:20
dmeojtekteen: I have a media problem with a IBM15:20
pagfritz, does the Adept work now?15:20
nosrednaekimricardo_: yes15:21
pagxt828, np :)15:21
tekteenok15:21
fritzlol, you rock15:21
fritzyes15:21
fritzthank you15:21
tekteendmeoj: what problem?15:21
dmeojtekteen: That is why I just use alternate cd15:21
tekteenok15:21
SatManUKwhat does "forcing map register from 256 to 64 : mean?15:21
SatManUKwhat does "forcing map register from 256 to 64" mean?15:21
dmeojtekteen: I still cant install linux on it15:21
dmeojtekteen: except mandriva 200715:21
nosrednaekimSatManUK: I'm not sure... but its normal :D15:21
tekteendmeoj: all versions work with the alternative cd15:22
dmeojtekteen: but I do not really like15:22
ricardo_nosrednaekim: bakcup done...what now?15:22
dmeojtekteen: no, yamefa doesnt exist in alternate cd15:22
fritznow...... can anyone recommend cd labeling software15:22
fritz?15:22
tekteenyamefa?15:22
nosrednaekimricardo_: in the totorial,you had to define somewhere "KDEHOME=~/.kde4"15:22
ricardo_yep15:23
dmeojtekteen: type yamefa in a search engine15:23
nosrednaekimricardo_: set that to ~/.kde15:23
dmeojtekteen: you will find the website15:23
tekteendmeoj: u can download the alternate cd for a newer kubuntu version15:23
dmeojok15:24
tekteenwant a link to it?15:24
dmeojtekteen: I still have konqueror15:24
tekteenok15:24
tekteenkeep it15:24
ricardo_nosrednaekim: what about file asociations and my precious amarok database?15:24
dmeojtekteen: ok15:24
nosrednaekimricardo_: should all come over :D15:24
nosrednaekimbut make sure you back up your .kde15:24
dmeojtekteen: in fact gmail was not working properly with konqueror and they said to change for firefox, explorer, or netscape15:25
tekteenok15:26
tekteenkonqueror is a great file manager15:26
tekteennot a good web browser15:26
dmeojtekteen: ok15:27
dmeojtekteen: I still have another problem15:27
tekteenok15:27
tekteendmeoj: what is the problem?15:28
dmeojtekteen: I can access to my 'partition' in fat3215:28
tekteenok15:28
dmeojtekteen: I would like to share excel and word docs on it15:28
tekteenok15:28
dmeojtekteen: to be able to work also from xp15:28
tekteendo u know what the pastebin is?15:29
dmeojtekteen: that I left on the hdd15:29
dmeojtekteen: non15:29
dmeojtekteen: klipper ?15:29
tekteen!pastebin | dmeoj15:29
ubotudmeoj: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)15:29
dmeojtekteen: ok thanks15:30
tekteenpaste the contents of the file "/etc/fstab"15:30
SatManUKrl: littlebutterflygirl@WorldOfFormulaOne:~$ ndiswrapper -l15:31
SatManUKnet5211 : driver installed15:31
SatManUKi added the ath_pci as you said nosrednaekim - but when i modprobe ndiswrapper nothing happens..15:31
jaguilawenas15:32
jaguilaalgun/a español/a?????????'15:32
tekteendmeoj: paste the file "/etc/fstab" in the pastebin15:32
timri!es15:32
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.15:32
jaguilalo q kiero es hablar con alguien15:33
dmeojtekteen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45468/15:33
jaguila=)15:33
tekteenthanks15:33
radanterHi all, I am using 7.04 and Kontact for my mail. When I log in Kmail always starts up but I don't want it to. I want to start Kontact with Kmail embedded in it not as a seperate application. I tried closing everything and saving my KDE session but it keeps doing this. Anyone have any idea how to stop Kmail starting automatically? Thanks!15:33
jaguilaespaña??15:34
tekteendmeoj: open up the konsole again and type this command "fdisk -l" then paste the output on pastebin15:34
nosrednaekimSatManUK: thats good... nothing is supposed to happen :D run "sudo ndiswrapper -m" and then reboot15:35
WaltzingAlongricardo_: help you recover what?15:35
WaltzingAlongricardo_: kde4? settings in ~/.kde4 not ~/.kde15:35
WaltzingAlongricardo_: how to use kde3.5.8 session again? select kde (not kde4) at kdm15:35
tekteenI need to go for a secound15:37
ricardo_WaltzingAlong: i want to either recover my old config (startup apps, file assoc, amarok db,...) or simply roll back to kde3.5.815:37
dmeojtekteen: what is the output ?15:37
tekteenwhat comes out of the command15:37
dmeojthe hole text ?15:37
tekteenyep15:38
WaltzingAlongricardo_: yes and you should find the settings in ~/.kde4 not ~/.kde   though .kde would have your 3.5.8 ones15:38
nosrednaekimricardo_: youn should be able to select kde3 on login15:38
FunnyLookinHatHave any of you tried the RC1 ?  If so, is it actually usable now (as compared to the weird sandbox that Beta 1,2,3 were)?15:38
WaltzingAlongFunnyLookinHat: the quick answer is no15:39
nosrednaekimFunnyLookinHat: I use an svn snapshot from about 2 weeks before RC1, and it works fairly well, still plenty of bugs, but definately usable15:39
FunnyLookinHatWaltzingAlong, I mean for testing purposes....     is it usable in that sense?15:39
dmeojtekteen: I am not sure to do exactely what you said15:39
WaltzingAlongFunnyLookinHat: of course15:39
tekteenok15:39
FunnyLookinHat(I'm definitely able to troubleshoot and bug report what needs to be, so I'd rather help that sit idly)15:40
tekteenum15:40
fritznow...... can anyone recommend cd labeling software15:40
FunnyLookinHatAh ok15:40
tekteenwhat language do u speak15:40
dmeojtekteen: I copied what I insert on the web page15:40
dmeojtekteen: french15:40
FunnyLookinHatShould I install kubuntu-desktop before I install all of the KDE4 stuff, or just KDE4 stuff (I'm on Gnome right now)?15:40
tekteenok15:40
tekteenI will look up the word for output in french15:40
fritzI am very fluent in jibberish15:40
ricardo_nosrednaekim: i cant get to backup my .kde folder....15:41
dmeojtekteen: I know output15:41
tekteenok15:41
nosrednaekimFunnyLookinHat: just kde4 stuff should be fine15:41
WaltzingAlongFunnyLookinHat: you could just install the kde4 still as far as i know15:41
dmeojtekteen: but I dont see any output15:41
nosrednaekimricardo_: why not...15:41
tekteentry "sudo fdisk -l"15:41
fritznow...... can anyone recommend cd labeling software15:42
Black_Monkeyis there a way to get up the new panel in kde4 rc1?15:42
nosrednaekimFunnyLookinHat: the gdm config MAY be slightly different15:42
fritznow...... can anyone recommend cd labeling software?15:42
WaltzingAlong!repeat | fritz15:42
ubotufritz: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience15:42
WaltzingAlongfritz: marker15:42
dmeojtekteen:  and then ?15:42
tekteenpaste the output on pastebin15:43
tekteenthen give me the link15:43
nosrednaekimman...i'm going to have to get kde4 to help all these requests :D15:43
fritzcool, thanks. I hope I'm not annoying by redundancy15:43
nosrednaekim!helpersnack | tekteen15:44
ubotutekteen: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!15:44
dmeojhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45468/15:45
* tekteen likes chocolate chip15:45
tekteendmeoj: thanks15:45
tekteendmeoj: I will look at it15:46
dmeojtekteen: ok15:46
dmeojtekteen: I have to leave now, my boss is gonna kill me15:46
tekteenok15:46
dmeojtekteen: later15:47
tekteenlater15:47
onishidatohow can i use the rpm file anyway?15:48
tekteen!rpm15:49
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)15:49
bentob0xanybody got a good web crawler like Teleport Pro for Ubuntu/KDE?15:49
onishidatothanks15:49
WaltzingAlongfritz: also try scribus or openoffice.org15:49
WaltzingAlongwget ?15:49
bentob0xwill wget save all the files and respect website structure/hierarchy?15:50
fritzreally, didnt now that15:50
bentob0xso I can see the site offline?15:50
fritzknow15:50
ricardo_grrr.....ok thats it....15:50
ardchoille  onishidato You don't use .rpm files. kubuntu uses .deb files. Converting an rpm to a deb is dangerous.15:50
ricardo_nosrednaekim and WaltzingAlong:15:50
nosrednaekimbentob0x: yes15:50
ricardo_could you please indicate how to remove kde4 and roll back to my good old 3.5.8?15:51
nosrednaekimbentob0x: when configured correctly15:51
WaltzingAlongricardo_: you did not delete kde3.5.815:51
onishidatoso how can i use it. this program is only issued in .rpm file15:51
WaltzingAlongricardo_: at the kdm login manager, select session 'kde' to get back to 3.5.815:51
onishidatothis is a program let me type in vietnamese15:51
SatManUKnosrednaekim: rebooted - message saying windows drivers - can't open anything - still no wireless and one frustrated lady :(15:51
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WaltzingAlongricardo_: and uninstall kde4rc1 the same way you put it in there: through apt-get/adept/aptitude15:52
nosrednaekimricardo_: on the login screen, you should be able to run kde3 by clicking on the session box and selecting "KDE"15:52
ardchoilleonishidato: You don't use it, look for a deb or don't use the app. Which app is it? Have you searched the repos?15:52
ricardo_WaltzingAlong: where is the kdm login manager?15:52
ricardo_nosrednaekim: i have already tried that...i only see kde415:52
WaltzingAlongricardo_: when your computer starts, to ask you to log in15:52
nosrednaekimSatManUK:can't open anything?15:53
onishidatox-unikey-1.0.3b-FC4.i586.rpm that's the name of it15:53
ricardo_WaltzingAlong: i only see kde415:53
nosrednaekimSatManUK: try a "iwlist ath0 scan"15:53
WaltzingAlongricardo_: into an X session15:53
nosrednaekimSatManUK: and check if ndiswrapper was modprobed15:53
ricardo_ok...let me try...be right back15:53
nosrednaekimwith "lsmod | gre ndis"15:53
nosrednaekim*grep15:53
ardchoilleonishidato: You're better off compiling it yourself if all you can find is an rpm15:53
tekteenme hungry15:53
tekteenmy brother is a dead man (he wrote it)15:54
bentob0xjust found that wget -rp http://www.example.com does it nicely, thx WaltzingAlong and nosrednaekim15:54
onishidatoardchoille: i will find another file anyway15:54
WaltzingAlongbentob0x: cheers15:54
draikHello all15:56
SatManUKiwlist interface doesn't support scanning - i don't think its modprobed15:56
tekteendraik: hello15:56
SatManUKshould i try a modprobe ndiswrapper?15:56
nosrednaekimSatManUK: try "lsmod | grep ndis"15:57
harmentalnosrednaekim and WaltzingAlong: I have options default, KDE4 and failsafe...when i select default my precious kde 3.5.8 is back!!15:58
harmentalnow...what is a safe way to remove kde4?15:58
SatManUKnothing happens15:58
nosrednaekimharmental: why do you want to remove it?15:59
SatManUKno lights - no messages15:59
AzzcoI have a sound skipping problem here... Should I try to cvompile a new kernel or something? The problem is both with oss and alsa system wide.15:59
nosrednaekimSatManUK: what does "lsmod | grep ath" show?15:59
kyronahoy, I installed 7.10 on my mother's laptop and she is now crying 5000Km from me because she is telling me it's "dead"...from the description she is giving me it's a suspend to disk problem (hibernate). Can anyone point me to the proper kubbuntu howto on disabling resume from HDD (probably Grub/kernel boot-time parameter)15:59
harmentalnosrednaekim: because i wont use until a stable release and i dont any previous RC version to get in the way :o)16:00
kyronAzzco, check the alsa wiki first16:00
Azzcokyron: It's for oss too..16:00
nosrednaekimharmental: well,then you can remove kde-base16:01
kyronoss is emulated by alsa iirc (oss is long deprecated)16:01
nosrednaekim*kde4-base16:01
Azzcokyron: Okay I'll have a look then. Thanks for clearing that up :)16:01
SatManUKnosrednaekim: still nothing16:02
nosrednaekimSatManUK: then modprobe ndiswrapper16:02
kyronAzzco, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page16:02
vbgunzis there a way to get a list of all custom install packages? preferably seperated by group e.g., multimedia, etc?16:02
nosrednaekim"sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"16:02
SatManUKstill nothing16:04
SatManUKi did sudo..16:04
harmentalnosrednaekim: should i request removal or purging?16:04
nosrednaekimSatManUK: ok, now try "islist ath0 scan"16:04
nosrednaekim*iwlist16:04
onishidatosudo apt-get install mini-dinstall16:05
onishidatoi can't do that thing16:05
onishidatois it correct code?16:05
SatManUKiwlist ath0 doesn't support scanning16:06
draiknosrednaekim: I managed to get past the error messages I received from Kaffeine. Now, everything plays, but choppy. VLC is the only player which doesn't give me any complications. Got any idea where I should look for an answer?16:06
jhutchinsonishidato: Looks like plain language to me, not code.16:07
nosrednaekimSatManUK: errr!16:07
SatManUKthats just what im saying..16:07
harmentalnosrednaekim or WaltzingAlong: should i alos uninstall kdebase-runtime16:07
SatManUKndiswrapper -l says driver installed..16:07
nosrednaekimSatManUK: try "lsmod | grep ndiswrapper16:07
nosrednaekimharmental: yes16:08
SatManUKso the lsmod need to be sudo?16:08
SatManUKndiswrapper           185240  016:09
SatManUKusbcore               138632  5 ndiswrapper,usbhid,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd16:09
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jhutchinsSatManUK: figure any time you're doing something that could affect the over-all system you need sudo.16:10
SatManUKok16:10
nosrednaekimSatManUK: ok.. good16:10
SatManUKso if your just enquring something you don't16:11
SatManUKif your changing something you do..16:11
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Dr_willisUnlike how windoes vista works with its Nag-dialogs. :)16:11
SatManUKhahaha16:11
SatManUKi detest vista16:11
SatManUK10gb just to sit their and do bugger all ..16:11
WaltzingAlongharmental: if you want it uninstalled then sure remove the packages you installed:  sudo aptitude purge kdebase-dev-kde4 kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-runtime16:12
SatManUKall its "toys"16:12
SatManUKnosrednaekim: so what do we need to do now? if ndiswrapper has imported the driver.. why isn't it active..16:12
harmentalWaltzingAlong: thx!16:12
jhutchinsSatManUK: Well, if you're asking about something systemish, you might.  Networking is considered security info by some, so yes, you need sudo.16:13
jhutchinsSatManUK: Some wireless adapters need to actually load two drivers.16:13
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nosrednaekimSatManUK: is the wireless switch on?16:14
jhutchinsSatManUK: sudo iwconfig doesn't show the card?16:14
SatManUKnosrednaekim: what do you mean?16:14
harmentalWaltzingAlong: is it safe/clever to do apt-get autoremove --purge afterwards?16:14
nosrednaekimSatManUK:  is this a desktop or a laptop?16:14
WaltzingAlongharmental: as you wish; you can see the list of things that command would want to remove16:14
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SatManUKjhutchins: nosrednaekim has a similar card (laptop)16:14
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SatManUKits a fujistsu s series lifebook16:15
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harmentalthere are 97 packages not quite easy to check them all... :op16:15
nosrednaekimSatManUK: then there should be a wireless witch or hotkey somewhere16:15
WaltzingAlongharmental: :D16:15
SatManUKon the laptop?16:16
nosrednaekimSatManUK: yes16:16
Jix_Chojuqselam16:16
WaltzingAlongharmental: if you installed through aptitude removing through aptitude would remove those installed just to satisfy dependencies no longer needed16:16
SatManUKi never had such a button with my laptop when i ran suse.. i just had to modprobe ndiswrapper on each boot to get the wifi working16:17
WaltzingAlongndiswrapper -m  ?16:17
SatManUKwell we have tried that..16:17
SatManUKshe said it "depends" on the button question - so maybe indeed their is16:19
BarbarelloHi, people! Cant you say, whats the extension of localisation update files? As like as apts it is DEB or not? If so, where i can find it (like applications cached in /var/cache/apt)??16:19
WaltzingAlongFn + F2 ?16:19
tekteenBarbarello: I do not understand the question16:19
WaltzingAlong^^ likewise16:19
SatManUKquote: : there is like wireless connection... if you can detect the wifi... it's automatically connected unless if you unable the wireless connection, you need to enable it and double click and see which wifi available and connect16:20
nosrednaekimSatManUK: sounds like sofware controlled then.... that makes it a bit harder.... could you boot into vista and make sure the radio is enabled?16:21
Barbarellotekteen: So.. I had download update of locale for my own language. Where i can get files i had downloaded - need to have a copy for another pc, for example.16:21
SatManUKso she needs to go into vista16:21
SatManUKcheck the radio is enabled16:21
SatManUKthen reboot into linux..16:21
nosrednaekimSatManUK:yeah16:21
tekteenok16:21
nosrednaekimtry that16:21
SatManUKthats gonna be hard - when she gets into vista - she won't wanna leave !!!16:21
tekteenBarbarello: I will look it up16:21
SatManUKbut i will ask her :)16:21
nosrednaekimSatManUK:  hehe.... yeah...16:22
knightsI'd like to use our uni network connection to apt-mirror gutsy but the prob is two fold- a) We only have fedora boxes b) the local drives aren't big enough so I'd have to save it onto a big network drive, NTFS formatted. So can I run apt-mirror under Fedora (6) and will I habe to create a partition file on the NTFS share drive(1TB)?16:22
nosrednaekimknights: I believe the answer to both is probably yes16:22
SatManUKso boot into vista16:22
SatManUKwhen the wifi enabled16:22
nosrednaekimI know you can run apt-mirror on gentoo16:22
SatManUKboot back to linux?16:22
nosrednaekimSatManUK: reboot16:22
nosrednaekimyeah16:22
SatManUKok16:22
SatManUKok she agreed..16:23
kyroncan someone tell me at least which suspend implementation is used in Kubuntu so that I can figure out how to get a laptop to boot "normally" with the proper kernel parameter at the grub command line??16:23
SatManUKsays "i am going to get introuble for this after and "she is looking for a new bf :("16:23
tekteenBarbarello: you can find the debs in "/var/cache/archives"16:23
nosrednaekim:(16:23
SatManUKwhy can't linux just detect her wifi card like it does her network and sound..16:23
Barbarellotekteen: just an applications ( I need locales!16:24
jzillahappy thanksgiving friends, from kcontrol - any of the options that require an Admin mode are comming up with the error "Could not find module" and kick me back the the kcontrol start page. Ive reinstalled said modules to no avail. Any ideas?16:24
sadahi!!!16:24
SatManUKshe says "its not a good example for a newby setting on wifi on their first day" - which in fairness is true :P16:24
knightsnosrednaekim: Good - I hope so! What about the network drive though?16:24
SatManUKi prefer to recomend linux to wired network users for this reason..16:24
nosrednaekimknights: that should work too via NFS16:25
SatManUKin theory ndiswrapper should be easy but ..16:25
tekteenBarbarello: for a application or the entire system?16:25
nosrednaekimtheories are just that16:25
nosrednaekimjzilla: try starting them from the konsole with kdesudo for instance "kdesudo mountconfig"16:26
Barbarellotekteen: locale for all my kubuntu system.16:26
jzillaill give that a shot nosrednaekim, thanks16:26
tekteenok16:26
knightsnosrednaekim: So you're saying that if the network drive that I'm apt-mirroring to is hosted via NFS I should be OK?16:26
nosrednaekimknights: I would think so.16:26
noob_100anyone know what this means to bash? :(){ :|:&};:16:27
Chousukeit's a bash fork bomb16:27
tekteenthat is kept in "/var/cache/apt/archives/" under the name "language-pack*"16:27
noob_100how does it work?16:27
knightsnosrednaekim: I'll give it a go - thanks!16:27
nosrednaekimjzilla: you can list the modules with "kcmshell --list"16:27
Chousukeit creates a function called : that calls itself twice16:27
nosrednaekimnoob_100: basically, it spawn thousands of processes16:28
Chousukeso it creates new processes at an exponential rate.16:28
noob_100Chousuke: thanks... its a beast... killed my colleague's box a few mins ago :-)16:28
tekteenBarbarello: that is kept in "/var/cache/apt/archives/" under the name "language-pack*"16:28
Chousukeprocess limits are good fot you16:28
Chousukefor*16:28
SatManUKall flavours of linux have the drawback for wifi imo.16:28
Barbarellotekteen: damn. I see it.16:29
knightsChousuke: Does ubuntu not have a limit ootb?16:29
Barbarellotekteen: Thanks a lot!16:29
noob_100how do you set process limits?16:29
SatManUKi guess its down to the chipset manufacturers to do more to intergrate their products16:29
tekteenBarbarello: np16:29
nosrednaekimSatManUK: you just have to shop smart... know that what you are getting is supported by linux16:29
Chousukenoob_100: with ulimit16:29
Dr_willisI find wifi under windows - to be lacking in many ways also. :)16:29
ubunturoscoo! exact 400 nicks :)16:29
Chousukenoob_100: set it to 200 or 300 and you should be fine.16:29
tekteenBarbarello: why did you say damn?16:29
noob_100Chousuke: ta very much... glad to have learned something16:29
SatManUKi hear dell are shipping linux now..16:29
Chousukenoob_100: if you make it too low, your system won't run very well :)16:29
nosrednaekimSatManUK: yup, and Asus16:29
SatManUKthats a start..16:30
jzillahappy thanksgiving all, and thanks for the help <316:30
nosrednaekimSatManUK: and lenovo....and HP in Australia16:30
ubunturosSatManUK: weren16:30
SatManUKi recently asked my webcam manufacturer for a linux driver in the absence of a vista driver..16:30
ubunturosSatManUK: weren't they doing it already?16:30
SatManUKwhich flavours though ubuntu or suse or what?16:30
knightsWould anyone know where I could find a apt-mirror package for Fedora 6?16:30
nosrednaekimSatManUK: for dell? gusty, HP does redhat, lenovo uses suse16:31
SatManUKNovell have enough clout to push it16:31
Barbarellotekteen: cuz i was blind, men! Thank u, you get me try to look closer )16:31
nosrednaekimSatManUK: i'm sorry man.... but Ig2g16:32
tekteenok16:32
tekteenyour welcome. lol16:32
SatManUKok thanks for your help man your a start16:32
SatManUKok thanks for your help man your a star16:32
nosrednaekimSatManUK: <_<16:32
SatManUKwhere are you from nosrednaekim?16:32
nosrednaekimSatManUK: US16:32
SatManUKaha..16:32
SatManUKim in Tbilisi, Georgia and the gf is in Malaysia..16:33
nosrednaekimSatManUK: i'm sure there will be others to help you though...16:33
SatManUKbut im from the UK16:33
knightsSatManUK: Are you the guy who used to live in Bury?16:33
SatManUKthanks man..16:33
SatManUKyes16:33
nosrednaekimSatManUK: yw16:33
knights:)16:33
BarbarelloWhat is prefered more: ext2 or ext3??16:33
nosrednaekimext316:33
SatManUKknights ..16:33
SatManUKkubuntu-16:33
knightsRochdale16:33
SatManUKkubuntu_offtopic..16:33
knightsdanboid16:33
SatManUKso we don't get in trouble..16:33
Barbarellonosrednaekim: why?16:33
vbgunzis it possible to see a list of the applications I manually installed? not the ones that come with Gutsy? is it possible also to get a list that eliminates as many dependencies as possible?16:34
knightsSatManUK: Yeah, I spoke to you in a suse channel once, thatsall16:34
SatManUKi remember16:34
* genii sips a coffee and thinks about !clone but listed by date16:34
Dr_willisvbgunz,  not that i am aware of on the manual install.. since there really is no differance.16:34
SatManUKi had my laptop stolen and the bar stewards trashed my dvd16:34
SatManUKkubuntu is the only flavour with a mirror in Georgia16:35
SatManUKso its 8mb/s for kubuntu or 128k/s for suse16:35
vbgunzDr_willis: i think I figured out how to do it if necessary but don't see a quick, easy, dirty way of eliminating all dependencies16:35
SatManUKand for what i do - it makes no odds really - although i have to say - suse seems more stable - i am getting intermittant system failures with kubuntu16:36
tekteen!clone | vbgunz16:36
ubotuvbgunz: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate16:36
knightsSatManUK: ubuntu is lightning fast compared to suse with 7.1016:36
Dr_willisvbgunz,  thers a command that can show all installed packages. :) guess ya could get that list from a clean install.16:36
Dr_willisAnd the bot answers. :)16:36
SatManUKbut it keeps crashing on me..16:36
vbgunzDr_willis: I know about --get-selections16:36
tekteenthe bot is god16:37
vbgunzmaybe I am not being clear enough :(16:37
tekteenvbgunz: what r u trying to do16:37
Dr_willisnot sure what you are trying to do. :)  thats often the case in here.16:37
egonhello :) i have done a big mistake and installed hardy ( with changeing the repos ) and now i want gutsy again. Do i have to install gutsy new or can i reinstalll all Hardy Packeges to Gutsy?16:38
Dr_willisSomeone asks a real specific Q. that is too 'into' the problem. and overshadows the real problem.16:38
timrivbgunz: aptitude search --display-format  %p '~i!~M'16:38
vbgunzjust trying to get a list of the manually installed applications. the ones I either installed from aptitude or apt-get  or even dpkg -i ... not the ones that ship with Gutsy by default. also, trying to eliminate dependencies e.g., if y and x are both installed *but* y depends on x, only show x16:38
tekteenok16:39
jzillais it possible to have the computer boot straight to a console, login from there, and use "startx" and basicly not use kdm to logon?16:39
WaltzingAlongjzilla: yes16:39
timrivbgunz: Ah, ok.16:39
Dr_willisvbgunz,  right What i was getting at was IF you ran that command on a clean/new install - you could get a list of all default installed packages.  I know of no other way to get a list of the default ones.16:39
SatManUK!offtopic16:39
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!16:39
jzillawould removing KDM allow me to do that?16:40
hero!botsnack16:40
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!16:40
* timri wonders how to coax kdevelop into giving autocompletion for python16:41
Dr_willisjzilla,  just disable the kdm serrvice16:41
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egonvbgunz: i dont know wath you mean. first i have to change the sources.list from hardy to gutsy ... and than?16:41
SatManUKknights: you any good with ndiswrapper ... im having problems with the GF's laptop16:41
SatManUKand i tried just about everything i can think off..16:41
jzillathanks!16:42
timriSatManUK: You mean soon to be EX gf :)16:42
SatManUKthanks for reminding me timri16:42
timri:)16:42
knightsSatManUK: Have you tried Mandriva 2008 (GNOME Ed if you want compiz) yet? Best wifi support in Linux by some stretch16:42
SatManUKi didn't even suggest she a) install linux or b) setup wifi16:42
vbgunzDr_willis: I think I may know but eliminating the dependencies have me bugging out atm. I have a theory. I could be way off. if your editor supports line numbers, check this file if you have it /var/log/dpkg.log.1 OR dpkg.log... compare the date on line 8772 to 8773. is that right where it changes for you?16:42
SatManUKi haven't know..16:42
knightsdo! You'll be impressed!16:43
SatManUKmy problem is - my location - 8mb inside the country - 128k outside..16:43
vbgunzDr_willis: e.g., it changes from the 16th to the 20th on those 2 lines16:43
SatManUKthere is no other flavour with a distro in the country afaik16:43
vbgunzDr_willis: it may not change for you *but* the time may be way different16:43
Tm_Tknights: erm16:43
Dr_willisI dont een have that many lines. :)16:44
vbgunzit could also be the first instance of "startup packages purge"16:44
Tm_TDr_willis: ?16:44
vbgunzsearch for that term. find the first one, after that, do you start noticing your custom packages being installed?16:45
Dr_willisvbgunz,  lets see....16:45
Dr_willisstring not found.   Since they are logs.. it may be i did stuff in a radicially different order then you.16:46
Dr_willisi cant even rember the last time i update/upgradeed16:46
vbgunz:(16:46
Dr_willisgrep purge  dpkg.log*   shows no purge in any of my dpkg logs16:47
* genii purges Dr_willis' dpkg.log16:47
assohello i'm new of kubuntu :-)16:48
Dr_willisgenii,  i tend to do that a lot also. :)16:48
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geniiDr_willis: ;)16:48
tekteenhi asso16:48
AssoKubuntu is wonderfull !!!16:48
tekteenI know16:48
tekteen:-)16:48
Assoi'm from italy !16:48
tekteendo u have a question?16:49
Assoyes16:49
tekteenwhat is it?16:49
Assois necessary have a firewall in kubunto ? like windows kerio personal firewall ?16:49
tekteenno16:49
Assois secure ? and antivirus  like bitdefender ??16:50
tekteenYou can use clamav16:50
tekteenhowever I have never seen a linux virus16:50
Assois simple to install ? from adept manager ?16:51
tekteenyes16:51
Assoreally ? there arent virus on linux ?16:51
ardchoilleAsso: You really don't need an anti-virus app in Linux, there aren't any active Linux viruses right now16:51
vbgunzAsso: you may only need anti-virus for your email in case you're sending mail to Windows users16:51
tekteenI use clamav to scan my windows partition (which is on the same computer)16:52
vbgunznot really sending mail but attaching or forwarding and stuff in which you include content you're not absolutelly sure is 100% safe, etc16:52
Dr_willisand from what history/docs ive read.. the linux viruses (viruii?) were rahter.. well.. trivial compared to the ones out for windows.16:52
ardchoilleAsso: http://tinyurl.com/625fm16:52
emilsedghAsso: for desktop, just use linux without any doubt16:52
tekteen!virus16:52
Assoi understand16:52
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2116:52
vbgunztekteen: I tried that and found plenty of false positives :(16:52
tekteenok16:53
tekteenwas it the test viruses?16:53
Assook now i read the doc16:53
vbgunztekteen: do you find false positives or do you scan all of Windows and everything is good for you?16:53
tekteenno problem16:53
tekteenI have been fine16:54
Assois very good this support for new user of kubuntu . . thank you very much we are very nice16:54
Dr_willisId rather have false positives.. then the othe rway. :)16:54
tekteenyour welcome16:54
Tm_TAsso: youre welcome16:54
* Dr_willis tests out klamav 16:54
vbgunzheh, I tried it and had so many false positives I didn't want to bother. the only thing I do in Windows atm anyhow is play steam games if I am in the mood16:55
Assoi can do another question ?16:55
* tekteen likes klamav alot16:55
tekteenyes16:55
tekteenAsso: what is the question?16:55
Tm_TAsso: just ask16:55
Assoi've seen that there is a beautiful interface the name is compiz . . . is simple to install ?16:55
Dr_willis!compiz16:56
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion16:56
MurielGodoiHi, why sometimes I got "The following packages have been kept back" message in apt-get upgrade? So some packages aren't updated :/16:56
Dr_willisits best to learn thebasics befor messing with compiz :)16:56
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sacrificenobady here16:57
tekteenMurielGodoi: Those are packages that may uninstall other packages16:57
Assoihihihi  :-))) ok   i want learn  linux/kubuntu i think is a wonderfull world !!!16:57
Tm_TAsso: #kubuntu-it if you like italian channel16:57
tekteenMurielGodoi: I normally install them16:58
Assothe best  relase of linux  is kubuntu or there are other ??? oohh  good  now i know the italian channel thank you very much16:58
MurielGodoitekteen: How do you force that packages to install?16:58
Tm_TAsso: if you ask from me, Kubuntu is the best16:58
sacrificeare there any 3D games you play in ubuntu ???16:59
ardchoilleAye, kubuntu is the best. I have been using Linux since 2001 and kubuntu is the best for me.16:59
timriAsso there are lots of other ones: distrowatch.com16:59
TimSAnyone have a 7300 and having issues with the nVidia drivers?16:59
timrisacrifice: I play nexuiz16:59
tekteenMurielGodoi: type sudo apt-get install PACKAGES YOU WANT TO UPDATE16:59
MurielGodoiTimS: I have a GeForce Go 7600, and works fine here17:00
sacrificeany else ???17:00
MurielGodoisacrifice: tremulous17:00
TimSIts a 7300 specific problem17:00
MurielGodoitekteen: ok thanks17:00
sacrificeand.....17:00
Assoi can ask where are you from ?17:00
jim_Does anyone know if there is a kubuntu ptrace package available? I couldn't find one.17:01
sacrificewho ?? me ?? :-017:01
MurielGodoiAsso: who?17:01
Assoin generall :-)))17:01
MurielGodoiMurielGodoi: I am from Brazil17:01
timrisacrifice: well, the ultimate in 3D linux gaming would in my opinion planet penguin racer17:02
Assooi brasileiro ;-)17:02
sacrificeI prefer quake 3 than that you said ...17:02
MurielGodoiAsso: oi,  but lets keep your talk in english :)17:03
Tm_T!offtopic17:03
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!17:03
timrisacrifice: http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=54917:04
sacrificemay I ask one question?? how much chinese is  talking here????17:04
sacrificethanks17:04
jagcorvair!dma17:04
ubotudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA17:04
jagcorvair!dvd17:05
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs17:05
jagcorvair!medibuntu17:05
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org17:05
COBHCsudo apt-get apt-get -f install is install with force17:06
Assoa question :  what is the best graphic ftp server for kubuntu ?17:06
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ardchoilleAsso: Server or client?17:07
* ardchoille is confused by "graphic server"17:07
geniino, -f is to fix broken deps17:07
genii--force-yes is usually to force17:07
ardchoilleI've yet to see a need for forcing anything17:08
AssoSERVER17:08
ardchoille!ftp17:08
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd17:08
jpatrick!server17:08
ubotuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support17:08
ardchoillety jpatrick17:08
tekteen!ftpd17:08
ubotuFTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP17:08
jpatricknp ardchoille17:08
tekteen!ftpd | Asso17:09
ubotuAsso: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP17:09
COBHCsorry, that is true :(17:09
jim_!ptrace17:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ptrace - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:09
ardchoilleAsso: servers are command line, not graphical. That's why I asked when you said "graphical ftp server"17:09
tekteenAsso: u can use these Graphical front-ends17:10
tekteenlike KcmPureftpd or PureAdmin17:10
timriAsso: KcmPureftpd is probably the one you are looking for17:10
Assook i try program for  KDE  ??17:10
* tekteen is going to eat and will be back soon17:10
timriAsso: KcmPureftpd is a KDE program, yes17:11
AssoOK Thank you vewry much for the moment . .i go to try install this program  Byee see you later !!!17:12
timriAsso: bye17:12
MurielGodoiWhich package I need to install to play mp4 h.264 movies?17:15
fannagogannaprobably libx26417:16
Assovery sorry i'have install KcmPureftpd from adept manager  but i don't see the lunch icon in my MENU  :-((((17:16
ardchoilleKcmPureftpd.. is that a kcmshell module?17:16
ardchoilleKcmPureftpd is an KDE KControl module for configuring pure-ftpd FTP server.17:17
ardchoilleI thought so17:17
ardchoilleAsso: Are you looking for an ftp app, or an ftp server to serve files to the world?17:18
Phantomhi17:18
Assoftp server . . .i want do an ftp server in my pc17:18
timriAsso: Use Alt+F2 to start kcontrol. KcmPureftpd will be in there17:18
ardchoilleAsso: How long have you used Linux?17:19
Assoi use kubunto from 3 days17:19
ardchoilleAsso: No offense, but I would recommend you learning a bit about Linux security, safety and administration before you go opening an ftp server to the world.17:20
PhantomI have wine up and running on 7.10 and have been able to run radmin viewer 3.0 on it.  How ever when I try to run Internet explorer on it all I get is white screen.  What am I missing ?17:20
Assoummm yes but i want transfer some file . .i know is not secure . . i use than i close17:21
Phantomneed t run IE because the yahoo radio music that I want to listen too wont play in firefox.17:21
ardchoilleAsso: You want to install and use an ftp server to transfer one file and then close the ftp server?17:21
Assoyes :-)17:22
ardchoilleAsso: Are you transfering this file to another server? If so, you do't need a full ftp server, you just need a client. kftpgrabber can do transfers17:22
ardchoilleAnd it's a graphical app17:23
MurielGodoifannagoganna: perfect! thanks17:24
Assono i need server :-(  i transfer this file from a windows machine that is a client17:24
ardchoilleAsso: You're transfering a file from a windows machine to a Linux machine on the same network?17:25
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Assoyes but not in the same network , , ,from  work to house17:26
rowan_Asso: if you have ssh running on your linux box, you could use winscp to transfer the file across over ssh17:28
Sp3c1alKhey17:28
rowan_this is pretty secure and allows you to do the file transfer without having to set up an ftp server17:28
Sp3c1alKHey, I have an Intel Quad Core, and I'm wondering if I should be using the AMD64 bit version of kubuntu?!17:28
rowan_winscp is a free download17:28
Assoyes but winscp is not very  slow ???17:29
rowan_no slower than any ftp client17:29
rowan_Sp3c1alK: um why?17:30
Sp3c1alKHey, I have an Intel Quad Core, and I'm wondering if I should be using the AMD64 bit version of kubuntu?!17:30
Assoumm  ok   tnx !!!17:30
geniiSp3c1alK: Look up your cpu specs at intel and if under features it lists EMT64 then yes. Otherwise no17:30
kaboomAll Quad Cores support EMT6417:31
kaboomAt least the ones from Intel :-)17:31
geniiThen yes17:31
Sp3c1alKAlright, well when I try to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu, I get the splash screen, and then choose install and i ge the loading kernel, but after that i get black screen17:31
ScorpKinghi genii. ;)17:31
* genii slides ScorpKing a coffee17:32
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* ScorpKing takes a sip..17:32
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Sp3c1alKany ideas?17:32
MyNameIsURLhey all17:33
ScorpKinggenii: i still have that problem with dpkg. :(17:33
MyNameIsURLHappy T-Day17:33
MyNameIsURLScorp, what are you doing?17:33
ScorpKingtrying to fix a problem. :P17:34
geniiSp3c1alK: Maybe try some kernel options like noacpi or notsc or so on. Also if you have dual-head monitor perhaps see if video is defaulting to the other output17:34
ScorpKinglol. i'll pastebin17:34
MyNameIsURLI am having soke trouble with Compiz-Fusion17:34
MyNameIsURL*some*17:34
geniiScorpKing: OK. I'll be online on and off for another 5 hours anyhow, from work.17:34
Tm_TMyNameIsURL: #compiz-fusion ?17:35
MyNameIsURLmy windows are all stuck and there are no buttons to minimize/maxmize/close, etc.17:35
MyNameIsURLum, OK17:35
ScorpKinggenii: right. :) one sec..17:35
Sp3c1alKgenii, i'm not sure how to do any of that17:35
ardchoille!compiz | MyNameIsURL17:36
ubotuMyNameIsURL: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion17:36
holzmodemhi, im searching for an kde/qt based php IDE with auto completition, is there something available?17:36
Sp3c1alKI am using a DVI monitor, and an 8800gtx17:36
geniiSp3c1alK: hit F5 key on cdrom boot menu. Add to the end of the line which loads the kernel whatever specific options you want to put, like noacpi    or   notsc   then hit enter17:37
ScorpKingbah. now the problem changed. "mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/run/cups/certs': No such file or directory" when running sudo aptitude upgrade on feisty.17:37
geniiScorpKing: dID YOU MESS WITH THE POSTINST FILE ATA LL?17:37
geniiBah sorry about capslock17:38
ScorpKinggenii: nope. i went to bed.17:38
Sp3c1alKALright I'll try it..bbs17:38
tekteenhey everybody17:38
sstchurIs there a font similar to "Arial Narrow" that is available on most Linux systems?17:38
ScorpKinggreetings tekteen17:38
geniiScorpKing: Pls excuse lag, sorta eating lunch :)17:39
ScorpKinggenii: no problem. i'm cooking. hehe17:40
tekteenI just ate17:40
tekteenno wonder no one is here17:40
geniitekteen: LOL yeah feeding time at the zoo17:41
ScorpKinghaha17:41
tekteenyep17:41
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t3ch13How do I enable compiz-fusion in Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon17:43
tekteen!compiz17:43
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion17:43
geniiAFK a while, they are yelling for me even tho i'm officially on my lunch right now :/17:43
tekteen!compiz-fusion17:43
tekteen!compiz |  t3ch1317:44
ubotut3ch13: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion17:44
kreibsomethings wrong with the system, cpu usage is constantly at 98 %, firefox-bin is eating 21 %17:46
tekteenkreib: what firefox extensions do u have?17:46
kreibmediaplayerconnectivity only17:46
tekteenok17:47
kreibprocess kicker is at 18 %17:47
Sp3c1alKgenii: I tried both commands, both didn't do anything different17:48
tekteenno idea17:48
Sp3c1alKsorry17:48
Sp3c1alKI do get text at the bottom of the screen that says it's mapping something17:49
Sp3c1alKIs there a way I can view a log of some sort while it's booting?17:49
AyabaraHey. I have installed Ubuntu on my new ASUS F3Sc, and I have a sound problem (I think). I have to turn the volume almost to max before it's enough to listen to music. My PCM level is on top.17:51
ScorpKinghow can i reconfigure cups from apt?17:51
stdinScorpKing: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys" ?17:52
ScorpKingthanks stdin :)17:53
ScorpKingi get - sudo: /etc/init.d/cupsys: command not found - when trying to start cups. apt shows that it is installed.17:54
stdindoes ls ?17:55
ScorpKingyes.17:55
ScorpKingvi as well17:55
stdinis it +x thne?17:55
stdinthen*17:55
ScorpKinglooking..17:55
ScorpKingnope. finxing..17:55
ScorpKingbah. fixing*17:56
stdinit would be something simple :p17:56
ScorpKingstdin: thanks again. problem solved. :D "sudo chmod u+x"17:57
stdinyw :)17:57
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* tekteen says HAPPY THANKSGIVING18:05
Tm_Term?18:06
tekteenwhat?18:06
tekteenwhy did u say erm?18:06
Tm_Ttekteen: why all this yelling?18:06
tekteenwhy not?18:07
tekteenNO SCHOOL18:07
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Tm_Ttekteen: stop it18:07
tekteenok18:07
coreymon77!caps | tekteen18:08
ubotutekteen: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.18:08
Tm_Tcoreymon77: that was quite unneeded18:08
coreymon77Tm_T: sorry18:08
Tm_Tno need to be sorry, just saying it18:08
ardchoilleTechnically, caps isn't shouting, using an exclamation point at the end of the sentence is shouting.18:09
ardchoilleBut, I digress18:10
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posingaspopularhey all im installing gutsy on a new hard drive. i want to use the whole drive space but setup a seperate /home18:13
posingaspopularhow do i do that?18:13
stdinselect manual partitioning18:13
tekteenposingaspopular: also make sure you make a swap partition as well18:14
jagcorvair!dev18:14
ubotuInterested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment18:14
posingaspopularright thanks...18:14
posingaspopulari haven't installed ubunty since edgy18:15
jagcorvairDoes anyone know how to fix the issue with choppy playback from DVDs? VLC works, but everything else is choppy18:15
coreymon77jagcorvair: use a regular dvd player? :P18:16
coreymon77just kidding18:16
jagcorvaircoreymon77: :/18:17
Tm_Tjagcorvair: and you have tested it how?18:18
jagcorvairTm_T: I have followed everything under !dma !dvd and other forums, etc18:19
jagcorvairTm_T: DMA doesn't seem to work18:19
Tm_Tjagcorvair: thats it then18:19
jagcorvair...?18:19
jagcorvairTm_T: What's it?18:19
Tm_Twithout DMA it's hard to get non-choppy dvd playback18:20
jagcorvairTm_T: Disable DMA?18:20
Tm_Tyou need it enabled18:20
jagcorvairTm_T: Right, but it won't :( and it seems to be a bug that is being "ignored" across the board.18:21
jagcorvair HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device18:21
Tm_Tcan't help, sorry18:21
jagcorvairHow do I find the dev channel?18:22
Tm_T!irc | jagcorvair18:22
ubotujagcorvair: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines18:22
jagcorvairdev's of K/Ubuntu18:22
posingaspopulargot it. thanks all18:23
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stdin#ubuntu-devel and #kubuntu-deval  (those are not support channels tho)18:23
Tm_Tstdin: you repeat me18:23
stdinTm_T: you repeat me18:24
Aartix003could someone plz just send me a link to a good kubuntu versoin for download?18:24
stdin:p18:24
ardchoilleAartix003: Which country?18:24
stdin!download18:25
ubotuKubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php18:25
Aartix003Norwegian18:25
stdinalso has links to mirrors18:25
stdinlike http://no.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/18:25
Exilantis there a way to disable dolphin and get konqui back as default file manager?18:26
stdin!dolphin | Exilant18:26
ubotuExilant: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.18:26
Exilantthanks a lot18:26
ardchoilleAartix003: You get that link?18:27
Aartix003yeah18:28
ardchoilleok18:28
Aartix003the gutsy version a have now is totaly F**ked....   GParted + Emerald and more not functioning18:29
ardchoilleHad a situation the other day where xorg wasn't working, the pm wasn't working, had no cli web browser installed, but wget worked great. So, I direct link to a kubuntu download was all the person could use.18:29
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Aartix003okey.. thx anyway:)18:30
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TheFuzzballHello all18:33
ardchoillehi TheFuzzball18:33
dwidmannHmm, anyone know much about getting laptop fn-key functions/media/buttons/stuff to work?18:33
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TheFuzzballdoes anyone know why Gutsy wouldn't be able to mount a Data DVD that was made in K3b when a Windows computer can mount it?18:35
new2kubuntu7Hi i need help getting my wifi to work18:35
stdindwidmann: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/128320 < I've had problems with that for a while18:35
llp78what can I do about my phone? it will not work (auto-mount) like in feisty i cant access the phone on this new version of kubuntu.. can i install some driver? i guess thats   the proplem?18:36
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tekteennew2kubuntu7: are you using gutsy18:36
new2kubuntu7I need help getting my wifi card working its a Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (eth1)18:36
new2kubuntu7tekteen: yes18:36
Exilantnew2kubuntu7: good luck18:36
tekteennew2kubuntu7: 64 bit18:36
tekteen?18:36
zarathHi, I seem to have problems with folders containing search results in Kmail (e.g. show all messages larger than 100k). These search folders get refreshed each time I switch to a new folder (e.g. when I switch from inbox to sent items). Sometimes the results of the search folders is accurate, other times it's lower than it should be (e.g. it shows 3 messages but there are actually 35 that meet the search criteria and should therefore be shown). Has18:37
zarathanyone come across this problem before? Any clues as to what might be the problem?18:37
jhutchinsllp78: You should be able to find some documentation, maybe a sourceforge project page, for your phone.18:37
dwidmannstdin: worked fine in 2.6.22-10 IIRC... then failed spectacularly in -14. Running 2.6.24-rc3 right now, having better luck with it but I was just wondering if there was anything simple I could do about it18:37
new2kubuntu7tekteen: 8618:37
stdinnew2kubuntu7: System Settings > Advanced > Restricted Drivers18:37
tekteenok18:37
llp78jhutchins:  thanks ill have a look biab18:37
novafresh install of kubuntu gutsy trying to use my old home directory getting error on open "call to lnusertemp failed (temporary directories full?) check your installation18:37
Exilantnew2kubuntu7: tried that one too, didn't really work18:37
tekteen!restrited18:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about restrited - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:37
novaany ideas?18:37
tekteen!restricted18:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats18:38
stdindwidmann: yeah, seems something changed in how the kernel deals with those key events18:38
tekteennew2kubuntu7: what happened18:38
new2kubuntu7tekteen: xorg-driver-fglrx18:38
new2kubuntu7tekteen: i have to install that through adept 1 sec18:38
tekteennew2kubuntu7: wait18:39
new2kubuntu7tekteen: wat18:39
tekteennew2kubuntu7: have you tried the manager18:39
new2kubuntu7manager?18:39
stdinnew2kubuntu7: System Settings > Advanced > Restricted Drivers18:39
tekteenok ati for the graphics. nm18:39
tekteenyou can get to system settings from the k menu (like start menu)18:40
new2kubuntu7tekteen, stdin: when i try to enable those restricted driver i get this: xorg-driver-fglrx18:40
stdinnew2kubuntu7: yes, it installs and sets it up for you18:40
tekteenit should install it automatically.18:40
new2kubuntu7stdin: it says im missing this package! xorg-driver-fglrx18:40
tekteendo you have the repos set up right18:41
stdinnew2kubuntu7: ahh, make sure you have all the repositories enabled.18:41
dwidmannstdin: funny thing is that xev reports the keycode and everything ... just pressing the buttons does nothing ... can't even set them as a shortcut18:41
novafresh install of kubuntu gutsy trying to use my old home directory getting error on open "call to lnusertemp failed (temporary directories full?) check your installation18:41
new2kubuntu7tekteen, stdin, im new k please help me im use to ubuntu18:41
novaold home was on a fiesty install18:41
tekteenok18:41
stdinnew2kubuntu7: go to KMenu > System > Adept Manager, then Adept > Manage Repositories. make sure all the boxes are checked18:41
ScorpKingnova: run du -h in konsole18:42
tekteenstdin I will let u take over :-)18:42
new2kubuntu7stdin, thanks i new how to do that only on ubuntu lol18:42
stdindwidmann: make sure that the key-codes are different with the fn key than without. when i press the fn+F? it's the same code as just F?18:42
novahey ScorpKing what exactly am I looking for here, I know I have free disk space18:43
dwidmannhhmm, I'll have to check that stdin18:43
ScorpKingnova: just to make sure you have free space. ;)18:43
novaah yeah I do18:43
stdinnova: especially in /tmp18:43
fuzzyis there a channel for K3b?18:43
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novaI cleared tmp completely18:43
dwidmannstdin: reports a different keycode too18:44
novathat wasn't it18:44
stdindwidmann: well that's better than mine then :p18:44
posingaspopularhas anyone ever seen this error during a kubuntu gutsy install attempt; [Errno 5] Input/output error: '/rofs/usr/share/perl/5.8.8/Fatal.pm'18:44
dwidmannstdin: somehow that doesn't reassure me18:44
stdinnew2kubuntu7: when adept finishes you should close it and go back to the restricted manager18:44
ScorpKingposingaspopular: maybe a bad disk. run dmesg and check for disk errors18:45
novaI've also verified permissions and ownership of directories, naming convention, etc18:45
novaall seems correct18:45
stdinposingaspopular: looks like a bad burn or scratched cd18:45
Gedweyhey anyone good whit steam\crossover and nvidia grafics card?18:45
simihi, i need a kind of total uninstaller for an applications that i install in kubuntu, i mean i want to completly remove some apps18:45
ScorpKingsimi: sudo aptitude purge <package>18:46
ardchoillesimi: sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove packagename18:46
stdinsimi: if you installed them with adept just use adept to remove them18:46
posingaspopularah yea that's the error all right18:46
simii want to remove some apps that  have their own installer18:46
ScorpKinglike?18:47
novawondering if it could have anything to do with user ID this is slightly different18:47
novathat's all I can think of but I don't see how that should matter18:47
simii do not use  sudo when i install them so they let traces just in my home18:47
ScorpKingnova: it could be the problem.18:47
posingaspopularoh come on, it didn't install!18:48
posingaspopularlame18:48
dwidmannstdin: oh well, at least the brightness keys are working again .... and the kernel is tickless :)18:48
simii need to trace where  the installer or the program writes18:48
dthackerposingaspopular: did you verify media?18:48
rasmusi've got some serious problems! I reeinstalled Kubuntu yesterday and now i get an error message when i try to install new programs. Bizarre enough is that some programs gets installed regardless of the errors18:48
posingaspopularumm i didn't burn the cd so no18:48
Exilantsimi, well, maybe there is a nice "make uninstall", or, you could use checkinstall to create a package, and then use that filelist18:48
stdindwidmann: it's strange here, after suspend/resume I get the media keys to work but that's it. some wonky kernel stuff happening :p18:48
zarathrasmus, what error messages?18:50
posingaspopularbbl, im going to get a different cd18:50
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Gedweynoen som snakker norsk her18:51
new2kubuntu7I need help getting compiz-fusion on kubuntu 7.1018:51
Gedwey?18:51
rasmusI'll translate it in a minute (i have my machine talking swedish you see ;-)18:51
MurielGodoi!compiz : new2kubuntu718:51
GedweyI rasmus18:51
new2kubuntu7!compiz18:51
tekteen!compiz | new2kubuntu718:51
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion18:51
ubotunew2kubuntu7: please see above18:51
Gedweyrasmus kan du hjelpe meg?18:51
simithe truth is that i want to use a trial app more then 30 times but i can remove it completly and it knows that it was in my system another time, the only solution was to install it to an other user account18:52
rasmusGedway jeg trur ikke det, jeg er ikke så flink på linux, men hvad er problemet ditt?18:52
Ayabarawhat do I need to make kaffeine play wmv files?18:53
pag!no | Gedwey18:53
ubotuGedwey: Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!18:53
ScorpKing!w32codecs18:53
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs18:53
ScorpKingAyabara: see there ^18:53
AyabaraScorpKing, thanks18:53
Exilantnew2kubuntu7: does your wlan card work?18:53
new2kubuntu7yes18:53
new2kubuntu7Exilant: yes18:54
Exilantwow18:54
new2kubuntu7Exilant: what18:54
tekteenI have not seen a wireless card that does not work on gutsy18:54
stdinand the restricted manager makes it really easy18:55
new2kubuntu7stdin: yes18:55
lucentdreamif i want to run kde4-rc1, do i need to use the ppa.launchpad.net repository or is it enough using the gutsy-backports (as the announcement states that it's beeing uploaded there)?18:55
TheFuzzball!awn18:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:55
stdinlucentdream: it's not in backports yet18:55
Exilantmy girlfriend's laptop has that card, tried to no avail with native drivers and ndiswrapper, albeit all from livecds18:55
stdinlucentdream: well, not all of it anyway18:55
lucentdreamstdin: so i just have to be a bit more patient?18:56
rasmusZarath! A wery free translation: "An error occured when the changes was about to get archived. A problem with the downloading of the package may have occured. Or the package would get damaged"18:56
tekteenExilant: u tried restricted drivers18:56
tekteen?18:56
Exilantnew2kubuntu7: do you have a 64 bit pc?18:56
Exilanttekteen: doesn't work on the livecd18:56
tekteenok18:56
tekteenit rarely does18:57
Exilantused fwcutter manually, though18:57
stdinlucentdream: yeah, they need to be build for hardy, then backported and built for gutsy. which is why we used my ppa, so you could use it without having to wait several days18:57
TheFuzzballplease can someone tell me why I can't mount a DVD that I can in Windows?18:57
tekteenit worked with mine though18:57
zarathrasmus, that sounds like a problem associated with being behind a proxy or firewall.18:57
TheFuzzballIt has all my backed up Music on it :'(18:57
lucentdreamstdin: is there a timeframe on how long this will take?18:57
rasmuswell, i haven't got the problem before18:58
zarathrasmus, some repositories do not allow connections from people behind proxies (hence the error message). You are likely to behind one if you are connected from a school/university/organisation...18:58
rasmuswhen i ran feisty18:58
weenusfuzzball: try mount /dev/cdrom0 /media/18:58
lucentdreamstdin: or is it perfectly safe to use the repository? as a quick look revealed that there is a lot more than kde in there18:58
zarathrasmus, are you trying to install the same packages as before? different packages are in differnet repositorios, and different repositories have different rules re proxies.18:59
rasmusi'm at home. Connected trough a ISDN or ADSL, don't remember18:59
stdinlucentdream: no definite one, depends on how the builds go and what other package are building and how long those take, then how long it takes for the final debs to be uploaded to the archive (all very complicated)18:59
rasmuswell, i can try som other ones to to see if it works.18:59
stdinlucentdream: you'll get a new version of konqueror and qt-curve, but other than that it's fine18:59
lucentdreamstdin: allright.. i take your word ;-)19:00
zarathrasmus, does hte error have a number? e.g. error 405, error 403...?19:00
rasmusa strange thing is that opera said something like this but i'm able do run it19:00
lucentdreamthank you19:00
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rasmusi'll check for a number!19:00
stdinlucentdream: and I'll post some instructions somewhere on how to revert the packages when kde4 rc1 is in backports, so you can remove my ppa from your sources and have default packages19:00
TheFuzzballweenus: My CD drive is at scd1 and I've tried that19:00
lucentdreamstdin: thanks again ;-)19:01
rasmusno number. The headline is something like: "Couldn't archive the changes"19:01
Larson-his it possible to get normal kernel boot/shutdown console output instead of the kubuntu screen?19:01
weenusFuzzball How do you know your cd drive is at scdl ?19:01
lucentdreamstdin:  btw. this is "incoming" from your repository: gtk2-engines-qtcurve kde-style-qtcurve konversation libpoppler-dev libpoppler-glib2 libpoppler-qt-dev libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler-qt4-2 libpoppler-qt4-dev libpoppler2 libsearchclient0 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libstrigihtmlgui0 poppler-utils qtcurve strigi-daemon19:01
geniiLarson-h: Remove kernel options splash and quiet from the default grub entry19:02
TheFuzzballweenus: because I have mounted disks with terminal before19:02
stdinlucentdream: yeah, everything except konversation and qt-curve is needed for the kde4 packages19:02
lucentdreamso also konversation bump ;)19:02
lucentdreamyeah sure19:02
Larson-hgenii: thank you!19:02
TheFuzzballweenus: and I have 2 Disk drives, one at scd0 and one at scd119:02
* genii sneaks away from box-crushing duties to sip a coffee19:02
weenusThen it might be a hardware problem, Have you checked the cables?19:03
stdinlucentdream: those other packages are going to be in -backports too19:03
lucentdreamqtcurve is fine too.. i'm using it here ;-)19:03
weenusand the power connector?19:03
TheFuzzballweenus: first drive is in a laptop and the other connected through USB19:03
stdinlucentdream: the version in the repos is 0.52.3, I have 0.54.0 :)19:04
TheFuzzballweenus: I am running sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/disk/ and it's still not completed the command19:04
rasmusno, the problem occur even when i try to download something i installed fine before i updated19:04
weenusmaybe it's already mounted19:04
mike-kubuntuhey guys, i'm trying to compile wine and with ./configure it says my c compiler cannot create executables19:05
TheFuzzballweenus: it's not19:05
mike-kubuntuand bugs out with an error19:05
stdinmike-kubuntu: why are you trying to compile wine??19:05
TheFuzzballweenus: it would say it was already mounted19:05
Exilantmike-kubuntu: maybe it can't?19:05
mike-kubuntustdin: doing regression testing trying to hunt down which patch broke soul reaver 2 in wine for me19:05
weenusI hate to say this but try rebooting then try it.19:05
mike-kubuntuwhat should i do to get past the error, it probably cant since i'm in linux, not windows19:05
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TheFuzzballweenus: lol, have done :)19:06
TheFuzzballweenus:  I've tried everything :'(19:06
Exilantmike-kubuntu: if you are sure your compiler is working, look at configure and search for the error19:06
stdinmike-kubuntu: best way then is "sudo apt-get install build-essential" and then "sudo apt-get build-dep wine"19:06
stdinmike-kubuntu: then it should compile fime19:06
TheFuzzballweenus: but when I put the disk in my dad's windows computer it mounts the DVD no problem19:06
stdinExilant: it's because he didn't have build-essential installed19:06
ubuntu_hola19:07
weenusIs this a dual boot? Try booting into windows and see if it does the same thing.19:07
TheFuzzballweenus: I don't have a dual boot19:07
ScorpKingTheFuzzball: make an iso image from it and mount it then19:07
ubuntu_espanlon please19:08
mike-kubuntustdin: thanks19:08
TheFuzzballScorpKing: how?19:08
rasmusZarath! Could it possibly be a proxy/firewall problem?19:08
zarathrasmus, not sure what the problem might be. Have you googled up the error message in the original language?19:08
JackWinterwhat is the script called that runs when i log in?19:08
rasmusyes, i've only got to the transaltion of the problem.19:08
ScorpKingTheFuzzball: dd if=/dev/<cdromdevice> of=mydvd.iso19:08
ScorpKing!iso | TheFuzzball:19:09
ubotuTheFuzzball:: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.19:09
TheFuzzballScorpKing: I'll try, and btw after 5 minutes of mounting it returned19:09
TheFuzzballmount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only19:09
TheFuzzballmount: you must specify the filesystem type19:09
zarathrasmus, you can check your system log for blocked traffic when you try to download the packages.19:09
rasmuswait, i'll see if i can find the english original message19:09
ScorpKingTheFuzzball: what is the command you typed to mount it?19:09
rasmushow?19:09
zarathrasmus, do you use kde?19:09
TheFuzzballScorpKing:  sudo mount /dev/scd1 /media/disk/19:09
lucentdreamstdin: another shot: installation went fine - but do you know why the active item in the main menu bar of kde4 apps is not highlighted?19:10
rasmusyes, KDE19:10
rasmusOriginal message: here was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages19:10
zarathrasmus, then open ksystemlog (e.g. by typing ksystemlog in your console)19:10
stdinlucentdream: because kde4 is still buggy19:10
ScorpKingTheFuzzball: weird.. it should work like that. anyway, try the iso way19:10
TheFuzzballScorpKing: will do19:11
lucentdreamstdin: ok.. so it's a kde4 bug and not some setting thingy?!19:11
stdinlucentdream: (that's probably the answer to just about every kde4 question) #kde4-devel is the best place for support19:11
lucentdreamok ;)19:11
zarathrasmus, what are you using for the instalation? apt-get? adept?19:11
lucentdreammaybe i go for kde4 qtcurve for now ;-)19:11
zarathrasmus, and what are you trying to install?19:11
weenusFuzball: What do you see when you just type "mount"?19:11
rasmusadept installation, trying to install a rar-program19:12
TheFuzzballweenus: pastebin?19:12
rasmusbut the problem remains for other programs19:12
weenusdoes it show any of the cdroms mounted?19:12
TheFuzzballweenus: http://pastebin.com/m6b2016bf19:12
TheFuzzballweenus: and no19:13
zarathrasmus, when you click on the components you want to install, do you get a message by the name of the packet saying there is a conflict or dependencies would get broken?19:13
TheFuzzballScorpKing: http://pastebin.com/d73ac01b19:13
TheFuzzballScorpKing: it didn't work19:13
rasmusnow, i don't. Everything works fine in the beginning19:13
zarathrasmus, try using the console. type: sudo apt-get install [name of the package]19:14
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ScorpKingTheFuzzball: try sudo19:14
weenusFuzball: That's neat19:14
TheFuzzballScorpKing: what do you think the "[sudo] password for fuzzy:" part was for :p19:14
rasmusok, i'll try! Thanx for the help by the way, indeed kind of you!19:15
new2kubuntu7Hi can anybody help me get a plugin for kaffeine that lets me play .mpg videos, .wav , etc19:15
ScorpKingTheFuzzball: lol. did not see that.19:15
* ScorpKing hides..19:15
TheFuzzballScorpKing:  :)19:15
mike-kubuntugetting an error compiling wine19:15
zarathnew2kubuntu7, you don't need plugins, you need to install the proprietary drivers19:16
ScorpKingTheFuzzball: maube something wrong with the disk or the drive19:16
Exilantmike-kubuntu: which one?19:16
mike-kubuntu{standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:38: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `push' and {standard input}:46: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `pop'19:16
lucentdreamkde4-qtcurve works fine.. so i can run kde4 dolphin with "perfect" (kde3) desktop integration now ;-)19:16
new2kubuntu7zarath: how do i do that19:16
TheFuzzballScorpKing: Neither of those, I can mount the disk on my Dad's windows computer and play the contents and I just tried another DVD :(19:17
Exilantmike-kubuntu: sounds evil19:17
ScorpKingTheFuzzball: with the same dvd-rom you use now in your box?19:17
zaraththe easiest way is to download automatix and select the components you want to install19:17
mike-kubuntuexilant: lol, thanks19:17
TheFuzzballScorpKing: I don't understant19:17
TheFuzzballScorpKing: Understand*19:18
ScorpKingTheFuzzball: the thing where you put the dvd into. that might be dirty or broken19:18
new2kubuntu7zarath: this can be downloaded in adept?19:18
zarathnew2kubuntu7, yes19:19
TheFuzzballScorpKing: It's not, I just tested another DVD in it and it mounted fine19:19
TheFuzzballScorpKing: and I also tried to mount the DVD with my burner19:19
Exilantmike-kubuntu: really no clue what could have happened, maybe the assembler is not properly installed or configure detected your system wrong.19:19
ScorpKingTheFuzzball: it can be the filesystem that was used to create the disk in windows.19:19
rasmuszarath! I managed to do it that way. The console was asking me something that i didn't really botherd to understand fully, and then every thing seems to work fine19:20
TheFuzzballScorpKing: I created the Disk with K3b19:20
zarathrasmus, great news19:20
rasmusi've tried to install other programs with adept installation and it works19:20
TheFuzzballScorpKing: the only thing I can think of is the name of the Disk19:20
rasmusThank you very very much. If i knew you, i vould spend you a beer (or an ice cream if you prefer ;-)19:20
weenusFuzzball: I don't see why this doesn't work: sudo  mount /dev/scd1 /media/19:20
ScorpKingTheFuzzball: i know there is one mode that can only be used on windows (k3b will warn but not stop you)19:20
zarathrasmus, sounds like you just needed to purge a broken package19:20
new2kubuntu7zarath: its not showing up19:21
TheFuzzballScorpKing: could it be something to do with the names?19:21
ScorpKingTheFuzzball: yes19:21
TheFuzzballScorpKing: is there no way to mount it other than windows then?19:22
new2kubuntu7zarath: automatix is not showing up19:22
ScorpKingit does not look that way.19:22
* TheFuzzball *Cries*19:22
alejhociaoooo19:22
LjLzarath, automatix can't be downloaded from adept. new2kubuntu7, don't use automatix.19:22
LjL!automatix19:22
ubotuautomatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »19:22
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zarathnew2kubuntu7, i forgot that you need to add  the repositories to your list.19:23
LjL!codecs > new2kubuntu7    (new2kubuntu7, see the private message from Ubotu) use this to play media files19:23
LjL!medibuntu > new2kubuntu7    (new2kubuntu7, see the private message from Ubotu)19:23
Ayabarawhere can I find the fonts on my system?19:23
ScorpKingTheFuzzball: put in in windows and copy it on cd's or something19:23
zarath!automatix19:23
ubotuautomatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »19:23
TheFuzzballScorpKing: I know, I'll have to burn then all again which is a pain in the arse19:23
* ScorpKing pass TheFuzzball some painkillers..19:24
TheFuzzballthanks :)19:24
ScorpKingyw19:25
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simithe truth is that i want to use a trial app more then 30 times but i can remove it completly and it knows that it was in my system another time, the only solution was to install it to an other user account19:27
weenusHey Anybody! Is there a Interactive startup mode for Kubuntu like there is for Redhat (you press the I key) I just installed the ATI restricted driver and I have a feeling that I am in for some trouble when I restart!19:27
new2kubuntu7LjL, THANKS!19:28
ScorpKingsimi: can i pm jou?19:29
simiyes19:30
weenuscome on Kubuntu gurus. how do you do interactive startup? I can't find anything for Ubuntu on this either.19:30
new2kubuntu7how do i end a process19:30
simii am not register19:30
weenusnew2: killall name of process19:31
Tm_Tweenus: what you mean by interactive?19:31
Tm_Tweenus: you mean you like to see something too?19:31
new2kubuntu7Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude).19:31
new2kubuntu7Would you like to attempt to resolve this problem? No will enter read-only mode and Cancel to quit and resolve this issue yourself.19:31
new2kubuntu7ohh ya sorry19:31
new2kubuntu7!pastebin19:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:31
Tm_Tweenus: hit F2 and remove quiet?19:31
ioanweenus i installed restricted nvidia drivers and no trouble19:32
new2kubuntu7http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45490/ : Can anybody help me fix this19:32
cressy1Hi, I have finally taken the plunge and have kubuntu up and running. Still have a feew things to work out but I know I'll get it  ;)19:32
weenusTm_T  It loads drivers and service one by one in response to yes and no answers19:32
Tm_Tah19:33
Tm_Tthat prolly would need more interesting kernel parameters19:33
Tm_Tand that I do not know19:33
weenusTm_T then you can choose not to load the one causing the problem.19:33
seezerweenus: use the "failsafe" bootoption to boot into single mode and start the daemons by running /etc/rc2.d/* one by one19:33
LjLnew2kubuntu7, are you sure you don't have another Adept or some other APT application open?19:33
new2kubuntu7LjL: nope19:33
LjLwell then if you're sure19:33
LjL!adept crash fix | new2kubuntu719:34
ubotunew2kubuntu7: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »19:34
EstethCan i follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php safely, without breaking existing gnome or kde3.5?19:34
ScorpKingsimi: did you get it?19:34
simiyes19:34
LjLEsteth: if you follow them carefully. you could always create a new user, to make sure you don't mess up your normal user's settings19:34
weenusthant seezer that sounds like a move in the right direction, but do you have to manually start each deamon doing that?19:34
simii am not registred19:34
simiso i cant write19:34
new2kubuntu7LjL: thanks19:34
wraundhelp me. I used to be able to hold backspace and it would erase all my stuff constantly, now i have to kep on tapping it to erase things, what do i do oh kubuntu gurus?19:35
simithx19:35
EstethLjL: New user sounds like a good plan. How do i go about doing that in ubuntu?19:35
ScorpKingsimi: oh ok. you're welcome. :)19:35
simibut i am afraid that it can edit some existing files19:35
LjL!adduser | Esteth19:35
ubotuEsteth: To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo19:35
seezerweenus: right. there are only "two" runlevels in (k)ubuntu/debian. single mode and "full system"19:35
seezerweenus: but you can see the correct order via `ls -1 /etc/rc2.d/`19:36
ScorpKingsimi: try that first but that's the only way to find out as far as i know19:36
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simihow can i register from konversation?19:37
weenusseezer: thanks for the info I was thinking of changing my server over to Ubuntu, but because of that I won't that interactive startup has saved my rearend many a time when I have messed things up.19:37
new2kubuntu7LjL: when i try to install kubuntu-restricted-extra's i get this: http://pastebin.com/m6772428a19:37
EstethLjL: Right. I've created my new user. Should i log in to KDE 3.5 with that user before following the instructions?19:37
seezerweenus: what distro are you using right now?19:37
weenuson the server I'm still on  fedora219:38
LjLnew2kubuntu7, i'm not sure. try doing it with apt-get (sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras), it will probably give an error message that's more meaningful to us19:38
LjLEsteth: yeah19:38
ScorpKingsimi: type /msg nickserv REGISTER <password> i think19:38
LjL!register19:38
ubotuBy default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration19:38
EstethLjL: Thanks a lot :) If i have any more problems, i'll be back here in a few minuites :)19:38
LjLi have to go away for dinner now though19:39
new2kubuntu7Ljl: i get this now http://pastebin.com/m21200bb419:40
new2kubuntu7LjL: i get this http://pastebin.com/m21200bb419:40
ScorpKingnew2kubuntu7: he is away19:40
new2kubuntu7Scorpking: dang it19:40
ScorpKingnite guys! have fun!19:41
seezerweenus: i know it from my times with suse. perhaps it's possible in ubuntu too - but i didn't need it the last 2-3 years. so..19:41
new2kubuntu7Uhh does anybody know how to install a driver that lets me watch mpg , .wav files for videos19:41
LjLnew2kubuntu7: make sure you have universe and multiverse enabled, and also have them enabled for gutsy-security and gutsy-updates. other people will be able to guide you through that, probably. i really have to go. some instructions should also be at19:41
LjL!repos19:41
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu19:41
weenusseezer:  You mean to use the method of troubleshooting start up you told me about?19:42
seezerweenus: i mean that solution is/was good enough to handle all problems i ran into the last years19:43
seezer(with debian, but same "problem" there)19:44
matttisWhy doesn't KDE system setting allow correct refresh rates for my screen ?19:45
weenusseezer:  Kubuntu Gutzy19:45
matttisIt doesn't show the ones of /etc/X11/xorg.conf19:46
weenusseezer: Stick with me a minute. I tried ls -1 /etc/rc2.d/ How do I prevent something from autostarting if  i think it is caussing trouble.19:47
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seezerweenus: rm /etc/rc2.d/S50ssh would disable the automatic start of opensshd19:49
underdog5004Is there anyway for sshfs to follow symlinks when it mounts a dir? I've got a dir where half the files are symlinks to files on a different drive...19:49
seezeryou could use KMenu->SystemSettings->Advanced->SystemServices too19:49
weenusseezer: that you permenently remove it. I mean temporaily for troubleshooting.19:51
seezerweenus: it's just a symlink. just create the link again whenever you finished troubleshooting.19:53
seezerweenus: or klick another button in the gui19:53
seezerit's ok for me. perhaps it's not for you. but hey - free world we have. kinda.. :)19:54
weenusseezer: Let's say I can't get the gui after I restart with the restricted ati driver. How do I stop that from loading. I haven't found it yet under any of the /etc/rc directories.19:54
weenuslspci returns:19:55
weenus01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]19:55
weenus01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE]19:55
seezerweenus: just change the xorg driver back to "vesa" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?19:55
seezer(which server needs a opengl-gui anyway ;) )19:56
weenusseezer: You're right. That's what I have done in the past. I'm going to try rebooting hopefully I will see you on the other side.19:58
seezer;)19:59
matttisWhat can I do, if KDE system settings ignores my /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?19:59
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matttisor is another settings file the one for KDE ?20:00
seezermatttis: did you select a monitor in systemsettings>hardware?20:00
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seezerafter hitting "administrator mode.." you should be able to configure monitor #120:01
seezerbut this menu is my personal enemy too..20:01
matttisSeezer: I did choose one which is nearly right20:02
matttisbut even though the values in xorg.conf are different those20:03
seezeri tried nvidia-settings some days ago. that one seems quite better. but i have to say, i'm glad i have no Hz problems anymore.. those crts are gone in my house.. ;)20:04
lucentdreamhello, can someone confirm/disprove that konsole4 (rc1) is *very* sluggish? (e.g. compare "time cat /var/log/messages" to konsole3 times or run mc and scroll around)20:04
lucentdreameven more with a bitmap font like terminus20:06
JackWinterwhat keys do i press to see boot up messages ?20:06
Larson-hafter changing to the nvidia driver my fonts are MUCH bigger, I found out kdm is responsible (If I kill X and run startx only the fonts are fine)... any known solution?20:07
lucentdreamstdin: ^^ could you please test this and tell your result here or in #kde4-devel ..20:07
lucentdreamLarson-h: it's because the nvidia driver tells the right dpi settings20:08
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lucentdreamLarson-h: either force them in xorg.conf or simply set them with the system settings (fonts => force dpi or something alike)20:08
seezerJackWinter: at the grub menu press 'e' on your boot option, scroll to the "kernel" line and remove the word "quiet" at the end. then press "b" for boot.20:08
Larson-hlucentdream: ok. But why the difference when using kdm and when not?20:09
stdinlucentdream: seems fine here20:09
lucentdreamstdin: any idea why this might happen here?20:09
ThylioHow do i get accses to my hdd? I dont have write accses.20:10
stdinlucentdream: maybe with compositing it's slower, not sure20:10
JackWinterthanks seezer!20:10
seezerJackWinter: if you want it to be default - edit the "#kopt " line in /boot/grub/menu.lst and run `update-grub`20:12
lucentdreamstdin: but i have factor of 28 compared to konsole3 :( .. (nvidia binary drivers with default xorg.conf)20:12
ThylioHow do i get accses to my hdd? I dont have write accses.20:13
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new2kubuntu7can somebody help me install compiz and emerald on kubuntu 7.1020:14
Larson-hlucentdream: thanks.. let me try this :)20:15
ThylioHow do i get accses to my hdd? I dont have write accses.20:17
Tech-Mikesup peeps, how can i check what driver my usb network adapter is using? i think it was using rt73usb, but i blacklisted that in order to use rt2500usb (with ndiswrapper) but still cant get connected20:29
matttisseezer: well, kde twits me. I choose a diffent monitor, choose a higher refresh rate, restarted kde, and now the old values are back (but the monitor is the same)20:29
seezermatttis: *g* sorry - i guess i know more about the next lottery results than about the "sane behaviour mechanism" of that part of systemsettings20:31
matttishmm20:31
matttishas anyone else an idea ?20:31
seezermy way: reset xorg.conf - modify by hand - never ever touch "admin mode" in the monitor section20:31
matttismaybe it has something to do with first installing ubuntu and than upgrading to kubuntu20:32
weenus2seezer I'm back. Of course that computer I was telling about wouldn't reboot properly. It used to run beryl great with fiesty. I donno what the problem is.20:33
Tech-Mike...aybody read my question?20:33
weenus2That was back at my office and now I'll worry about that later. It's thanksgiving.20:34
matttisTech-Mike: sorry, no idea. Maybe grep dmesg or something like that20:34
Tech-Mikeits weird that ubuntu used the rt2500usb driver correctly and kubuntu isnt20:35
matttis2hi20:35
seezerweenus2: i'm sorry. have to invest my last minutes/hours for today in learning.. see you tomorrow and gn8 for today.20:35
matttis2d'oh20:35
matttisbye20:37
weenus2seezer: I'll be back. This is one of the first irc channels that I have found that will be of ongoing use to me. I am deeply committed to all *buntus on the desktop.20:37
Tech-Mike...instead of using knetworkcontrol ... what commands do i need to enter with iwconfig to connect , i think i know most of it - just not the wep key20:38
geniisudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "yadda"                  etc etc    man iwconfig for more20:38
Larson-hthe DPI trick worked nicely... now last question: I only get about 50% of the "correct" performance using my wireless (iwl4965). I tried the disable ipv6 trick with no results. Any other ideas?20:40
niko_hi to all20:42
niko_italian channel?20:42
Larson-hniko_: not really :)20:43
Tm_T!it | niko_20:43
ubotuniko_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!20:43
ThylioHow do i get accses to my hdd? I dont have write accses.20:43
niko_or... someone can help me in reading/writing a ntfs usb mass storage drive?20:43
matttisHow or where can I change the kdm settings20:43
matttisIt seems that kdm does the mess20:44
simihi, how can i create users in kubuntu? i used ubuntu before and there is an application that makes this thing20:44
matttissimi: in the kde system settings20:45
Exilantwell, there's adduser20:45
Exilanttheres also some kde stuff20:45
ardchoillesimi: kdesudo kcmshell userconfig20:46
matttisbetter not use the kde stuff...20:46
geniisimi: Also kmenu ..system settings ...user management    but as mattis suggests, better to use command line since is same on all *buntu20:48
simithx, i made it20:51
simican anyoane tell me  how to run some commands at boot time, i have a dial up connection and i must run a script manualy every time and also some errors appears at boot time that it can't start the connection20:53
geniisimi: Don't set the dialup modem to be a network connection which it keeps wanting to start every boot. instead use kppp to dial out20:55
ThylioHow do i get accses to my hdd? I dont have write accses.20:56
pemphigus!permissions | Thylio20:56
ubotuThylio: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview20:56
justin__how do i make  the name of a folder all UPPERCASE? anytime i try it just changes it. wtf>20:58
timrijustin__: Try chaning it first to a different name, then to your all uppercase one.20:59
timrichanging20:59
CelticSoulhi guys, how do I boot up the LiveCD in text mode to install20:59
justin__i tried that, but it automatically changes it back t lowercase21:00
CelticSoulsafe graphic mode does not work for me21:00
justin__it's a really stupid feature21:00
timrijustin__: Curious. Perhaps a dolphin feature21:00
justin__i21:00
timriCelticSoul: You'll need to download the alterate installer21:00
ardchoilletimri: I would consider that a bug21:00
geniiCelticSoul: alternate install cd21:00
justin__i'll try konqueror21:01
CelticSoulok, i'll try it then21:01
texhi guys21:02
justin__yea.. it does it in that too.21:02
texsorry someone that can help me to configure audio?21:02
timrijustin__: On a FAT partition?21:02
texI'm getting crazy!!21:02
ardchoille!sound | tex21:03
ubotutex: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP321:03
justin__yea vfat21:03
justin__on my flash driver21:03
justin__*drive21:03
Boohbahhi, how can i get kftpgrabber to use SSL on the data channel?21:03
timrijustin__: In that case, i don't know a workaround. On "linux" filesystems konqueror works fine here , sorry21:04
JackWinterhiya, how do i setup konqeror to always display the favorites toolbar?21:04
timriJackWinter: Save your profile21:04
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timriJackWinter: Settings, Save View profile21:05
justin__i would just reformat it, but i'm trying to apply an update to my ps3, and i doubt that it recognizes linux file systems.21:06
justin__the damn firmware updates are almost weekly21:06
simigenii: i  do not set up my modem like that i have no choice because is not a popular modem so i do not have support for it, i just find this scripts that works21:07
JackWinterthanks guys, works a treat!21:08
geniisimi: Add the script then to /etc/rc.local21:08
simigenii: i have to just run this script with sudo from terminal, how can i put my pass there, or i do not need to do that, i need to run a command with sudo21:11
geniisimi: If you just put the path to the script there it will execute in sudo/root mode by default21:12
simigenii:thx21:12
ThylioHow do i get accses to my hdd? I dont have write accses.21:14
matttis2Thylio: /dev/hdd or harddisk ?21:15
geniiThylio: More specific information would aid us. Internal/external hard drive? What filesystem is on it? etc21:16
geniiWhat does the file /etc/fstab say about the drive? what does the command  sudo fdisk -l say about the drive? and so on21:17
tex_sorry guys how can I find the name of module of my soundcard21:17
tex_I mean snd-?21:17
geniitex_: You mean an already loaded module or one which you want to use for the hardware you have, etc?21:18
geniiHmm. Impatient ppl21:19
AzzcoHi I need to remove a few symbolic links... Can konqueror sort out symbolic links someway or do I need to pick them all by hand?21:21
AzzcoOr dolphin pherhaps?21:22
tex_sorry guys21:23
tex_any expert in sound configuration please?21:23
ardchoilleAzzco: You could use find to remove all links in a directory21:23
Azzcofind?21:23
AzzcoCtrl+f?21:23
tex_I tried the troubleshooting of kubuntu but nothing to do21:23
ThylioGenii. It's a internal hardisk that i have newley formated/paritioned/mounted. When i try to paste a file to it, i don't have accses21:24
ardchoilleAzzco: no, something like:  find . -type l | while read f; do echo $f; done21:24
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ardchoilleAzzco: If that works to your needs, simply replace the "read $f" with rm $f21:25
Pocrishola a todos21:25
ardchoille!es21:26
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.21:26
AzzcoThanks ardchoille21:26
ardchoilleAzzco: yw21:26
vergihow can i make ls command to list the hidden files?21:28
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stdinvergi: -A21:28
leo_rockwhello, i have a problem with amarok. it won't let me select alsa as the xine output plugin. in the dropdown list i only get "autodetect" and "esd". how can i tell xine to use alsa?21:28
cox_does anyone know the link to the website where u can download an installer thats abouyt 9mb then download the rest of the dist via symatic21:29
vergican ls command display details like size and modify date21:29
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leo_rockwvergi: ls -l21:29
stdinvergi: -l21:29
new2kubuntu7hi i need help installing comiz and emerald theme manager21:29
stdinnew2kubuntu7: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion21:30
vergithx, but how can i apply the command  for the sufolders ? ii know it can be done , i want to list all the files in a folder including subfolders and the detals21:32
jttvergi  find .  -ls21:33
new2kubuntu7stdin: did u install compiz fusion on kubuntu yourself?21:33
stdinnew2kubuntu7: I have, but I don't use it21:33
stdinvergi: or just add -R21:34
stdinvergi: see "man ls" for all the options21:34
new2kubuntu7stdin: when i go to set the options it doesnt work, example all the effects on my ccsm manager dont work it just doesnt anable anything!21:34
ThylioGenii. It's a internal hardisk that i have newley formated/paritioned/mounted. When i try to paste a file to it, i don't have accses21:35
new2kubuntu7stdin: it doesnt even show the example pics or the effect in ccsm21:35
stdinnew2kubuntu7: you'll have to ask about that in #compiz-fusion  it's not officially supported in kubuntu21:35
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tex_SORRY AGAIN GUYS...ANYONE ABLE TO HELP ME IN SOUND CONFIGURATION?21:40
sybuxHi all21:42
tex_nothing to do...I't very strange for a channel called Official Kubuntu support channel...21:42
sybuxI've got a really simple problem. I'd like to change my runlevel to 3 (don't want X on my poor laptop) but I can't find the inittab as used before21:43
Exilantno x? not perhaps twm or something like that?21:44
tex_sybux this is a fucking server because nobody helps nobody...21:44
stdintex_: watch the language21:44
stdin!patience | tex_21:44
ubotutex_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines21:44
underdog5004does firefox depend of gnome libs?21:45
stdinsybux: the only runlevels that don't run X are s and 1. and inittab is used in the old init systsm, the new one (upstart) doesn't use it by default21:45
sybuxstdin: ok but where is it so that I can change it21:45
stdinsybux: if you just want to start with no X then use "sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove"21:45
stdinsybux: then you can still do "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start" if you want to start it sometime21:46
stdinunderdog5004: it depends on the GTK library21:46
sybuxstdin: ok I can accept your answer but I still want to search a way to change the runlevel21:47
underdog5004oh21:47
stdinsybux: there is one, it's with /etc/event.d/rc-default21:47
tex_stdin : There is another way or channel to getting helps?21:48
tex_there is another way in general?21:48
stdinsybux: also have a look at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/21:48
sybuxstdin: thx for help21:48
stdintex_: there are the forums and there is #ubuntu if it's not kde specific21:48
tex_stdin : thanks21:49
nikk!compiz22:00
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion22:00
blizzzekbye22:02
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joseihola22:05
joseihay alguien22:05
stdin!es22:05
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.22:05
joseistdin demasiado novato22:06
joseipara saber abrir canales22:06
WaltzingAlong!en22:06
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat22:06
leo_rockwjosei: escribe /join #kubuntu-es22:07
Araneli know this is a bit noobish question, but I need help about adding commands to startup. I need use 'sudo swapon /dev/sdb3' in boot, how can i do it ?22:08
sybux!wiki webcam22:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wiki webcam - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:08
AranelP.S : sorry my poor english :)22:08
sybux!webcam22:08
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras22:08
stdinAranel: why not just add it to your fstab?22:08
WaltzingAlongAranel: add the entry to /etc/fstab22:08
stdinAranel: like "/dev/sdb3 none swap sw 0 0"22:09
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Aranelstdin: thanks a lot :)22:10
new2kubuntu7how do i install themes on kubuntu 7.10? there plain themes not emerald22:10
WaltzingAlong!themes | new2kubuntu722:10
ubotunew2kubuntu7: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy22:10
sybuxI'm looking for a simple program that can take picture from a webcam but I want to run it in shell mode22:10
new2kubuntu7!changethemes22:12
ubotuTo change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes22:12
WaltzingAlong!find webcam22:12
ubotuFound: webcam, webcam-server, webcamd22:12
Exilantwebcam should do it22:12
WaltzingAlong!info webcam | new2kubuntu722:12
ubotunew2kubuntu7: webcam: capture and upload images. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95.dfsg.1-6ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 36 kB, installed size 112 kB22:12
new2kubuntu7WaltzingAlong: i dont need info on a webcam!22:13
new2kubuntu7Does anybody know how to install a theme on kubuntu not ubuntu kubuntu 7.1022:14
WaltzingAlongnew2kubuntu7: right you asked about some software, three packages with webcam in the name, i sent info about one of those packages22:14
stdinWaltzingAlong: nope, sybux did22:14
new2kubuntu7WaltzingAlong: what are u smoking?22:14
WaltzingAlongoh, i see22:15
new2kubuntu7lol22:15
sybux^^22:15
WaltzingAlong!info webcam | sybux22:15
ubotusybux: webcam: capture and upload images. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95.dfsg.1-6ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 36 kB, installed size 112 kB22:15
sybuxbut during the mean time I've found it22:15
stdineveryone makes mistakes ;)22:15
new2kubuntu7yea its np22:15
WaltzingAlongso i have heard22:15
new2kubuntu7but im perfect lol22:15
stdinexcept me ofcourse22:15
new2kubuntu7just kidding22:15
WaltzingAlongnew2kubuntu7: which themes? kde-look.org ? colors? kwin-styles ?22:16
stdinI'm practically perfect in every way22:16
stdin(in my mind anyway)22:16
new2kubuntu7WaltzingAlong: kde-llok.org22:16
new2kubuntu7kde-look.org22:16
WaltzingAlongkeyword is virtually perfect22:16
new2kubuntu7GTG TURKEY!!!!!!22:17
new2kubuntu7bye guys22:17
tekteenhello everybody22:18
sybuxhow can I see on which device a webcam is connected ?22:19
pliskenhi22:19
sybuxif I do a lsusb I can see it but i don't knwo on which /dev/ it's connected22:19
stdinsybux: try looking at "dmesg|tail"22:21
sourcemaker_are there alternatives to amarok and juk? (for radio streams)22:23
leo_rockwsourcemaker_: vlc, mplayer22:23
f00fHappy thanksgiving kubuntu team! :)22:24
leo_rockwf00f: i would say thank you... but i'm not amerikan, haha22:24
sourcemaker_leo_rockw:  okay22:24
leo_rockwf00f: happy thanksgiving day to you, tho22:25
sourcemaker_is there any stable release for amarok available?22:26
stdinthe release in the archives is stable22:26
leo_rockwsourcemaker_: from #amarok Amarok 'Fast Forward' 1.4.7 released!22:26
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leo_rockwthe one in gutsy is 1.4.7 and it is stable22:26
sourcemaker_leo_rockw: thats the version I have installed22:27
sourcemaker_:-)22:27
sourcemaker_I have to click twice... to play a radio stream22:27
leo_rockwsourcemaker_: my amarok stopped working just now... so i'm sad22:28
sourcemaker_the first time... i receive an error.... no demux plugin22:28
anmijala_hallo22:28
sourcemaker_on the second click it works... sometimes...22:28
leo_rockwanmijala_: hallo22:28
tekteenanyone know of a cli program that will read a xml file?22:28
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jtttekteen, what do you mean read it, display edit what??22:32
sybuxdoes anyone got a simple script that add a date and time extention to a filename ?22:32
stdinsybux: nope, but you can make one. (date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S < is a hint)22:34
Exilantsybux: as in mv foo foo.`date` ?22:34
sybuxExilant: yes but is there a way to format the date ? yyyymmdd_hhmm for example ?22:35
stdinsybux: look at my command above22:35
stdin$(date +%Y%m%d"_"%H%M) < for example22:36
sybuxstdin & exilant : Perfect... you're the best22:36
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Exilant*blush* :)22:37
peplotesomeone know how to play a .wav file through konsole22:37
peplote??22:37
stdinpeplote: aplay file.wav22:38
Exilantmplayer foo.wav ?22:38
peplotesomething like this?:22:38
peploteno, no that way22:38
peplotecat song.wav > /dev/XXX22:38
peplotethis way22:38
stdinthat only works if it's RAW unformatted wav22:38
peplotei did it in the past, but know can't remember22:38
stdin/dev/dsp22:39
peploteyes, i tried it with dsp but it doesn't worked22:39
peplotebecause of RAW unformatted i think now22:39
stdinsybux: it's best to use $() for commands rather than ``, for example    "echo `echo the date is `date``" and "echo $(echo the date is $(date))" produce very different results22:40
peplotethank you very much stdin22:40
Exilantpeplote: or maybe arts or sth. like that blocks it22:40
stdinarts will auto suspend after a while tho22:40
stdinyou can do it manually too22:41
sybuxstdin: thx for the remark22:41
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peplotei want to send a music file to a microcontroller through the COM22:42
peplotethe idea is the same22:42
Exilantwouldn't you rather use /dev/ttyUSB0 or sth. like that then?22:42
peplotecat file.mp3 > /dev/ttyS022:42
gribeluwill the kde4rc1 packages ever make it into the hardy repos?22:43
peploteplay the song was a previous probe22:43
stdingribelu: they already are getting there22:43
Exilantpeplote: you'll have to take care of baudrate settings22:43
leo_rockwgribelu: kde4rc1 can be installed in gutsy already22:43
Exilantand somehow just catting didn't always work for me22:44
peplotewith the usb is more difficult, because usb interface is more difficult to manage22:44
gribelustdin: so i still have to wait some?22:44
stdingribelu: yeah, they should be coming through in bulk soon22:44
sybuxone last question before going to bed .... which syntax shall I use in crontab to run a script every minute ?22:44
peplotethanks you all22:44
sybuxI've tryed 1 * * * * * /myscript.sh but it doesn't work22:44
stdinsybux: use kcron, it's a nice GUI to crontab22:45
Exilant /dev/ttyUSB0 is usually a usb-serial-converter device22:45
sybuxstdin: I don't have GUI on my laptop22:45
stdinsybux: heh, ok22:45
peploteyes but you need to manage it also in the microcontroller :S22:45
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peploteyou have to add a new integrated22:46
peplotesome FTDI22:46
gribelusybux it think: */1 * * * * root /script.sh22:46
peploteExilant: thank you anyway22:47
sybuxgribelu: will check in a minute :)22:47
Exilantpeplote: no, the usb-serial takes place outside the µC, it only sees a standard serial interface22:48
sybuxgribelu: it seems to work. thanks22:48
gribelucool22:49
sybuxok thanks all for help. bye bye22:49
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nikk!compiz23:10
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion23:10
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* genii sips a coffee23:12
ardchoillehi genii23:16
mani_has anybody problems with kdm_kde4? like me ...23:16
NickPrestamani_, what problems are you having exactly?23:16
mani_1 moment23:17
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Pollywog!acroread23:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acroread - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:23
N0oBi3hi all i just install compiz and compiz fusion when I start it i get like 8 desktop when i had like 4 as my default23:24
manihi, again23:25
N0oBi3and all my windows are on one desktop23:25
stdinN0oBi3: compiz has it's own desktop settings, support in #compiz-fusion23:25
Dr_WillisHmm.. dang  - i think ome of my Hd's just took a nosedive. :(23:26
Dr_Willisgetting all sorts of weird messages abotu  it now when i boot.  They dont make them like they used to.23:26
stdinbackup while you still can23:26
Dr_Willisyea. reinstalling is no big deal. i was running that clamv virus checker on the windows drive. and had it do the whole system   just in case..  dident find anything. but then i noticed the / was mounted read only.23:27
Dr_Williswonder if clamv did somting23:27
* Minataku meows at Dr_Willis :323:28
stdinI've never really used clamav, so I've never had trouble with it :p23:28
manimy kdm_kde4 problem:23:28
Dr_Willisi just noticed that i was able to install it... then ran it.. then after it was done.. my / was read only.23:29
Dr_WillisIt may be it just triggered somehing  else on the hd.23:29
MinatakuClamAV shouldn't touch anything or cause anything like that23:29
MinatakuWhat are the messages?23:29
Dr_Willisyea - thats why i wonder if just the HD was going out. and the extra ussage triggered it.23:29
Dr_WillisLots of 0x00 type failure and so forth.. stuff ive never seen EVER befor. :)23:30
manidpkg aborted installation with error -123:30
Dr_Willisgoing to boot a live cd and fsck the disk23:30
MinatakuHrm23:30
Dr_Williswonder wgere i put my DSL cd.23:30
Minataku0x00 is "No Error"23:31
MinatakuThat's pretty much universal23:31
Dr_Willisunless its trying to access memory 0x00 :)23:31
Dr_Willisbut time to reboot to dsl.23:31
geniiback23:36
geniiardchoille: Belated hello23:36
ardchoille:)23:37
* Minataku meows at genii and ardchoille :323:37
MinatakuI'm thinking about trying out DESQview/X23:37
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MinatakuIt seems pretty cool, an X11R5 server for DOS23:37
Minatakulol23:37
geniiLet me know how you find it23:38
MinatakuI've got a fairly good system for it, as well, a Toshiba Satellite 100CS23:41
JohnFlux!intel23:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:45
JohnFlux!nvida23:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvida - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:45
JohnFlux!nvidia23:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto23:45
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JohnFluxhow do I setup my intel card? :)23:45
JohnFluxI want accelerated x goodness too23:45
kid_confuciuswas wondering i have no sound on my kubuntu everything has left on default with sound how  do i get sound?23:46
JohnFlux!glx23:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:46
kid_confuciusJohnFlux: download envy dude23:48
kid_confuciusif it is nvidia23:48
JohnFluxit's intel :-D23:48
kid_confuciuskk23:48
kid_confuciusnvm23:49
JohnFluxthanks though23:49
ardchoille!envy | JohnFlux23:49
ubotuJohnFlux: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »23:49
kid_confuciusthat true23:50
kid_confuciuslol23:50
kid_confuciuscan i get some help with my sound plz.?23:50
ardchoille3rd party scripts are not a good idea anyway23:50
NickPrestakid_confucius, what help do you need with your sound?23:50
ardchoille!sound | kid_confucius23:50
ubotukid_confucius: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP323:50
kid_confuciusNickPresta: well i dont have any sound i left everythnig on default23:51
Minataku!envy23:51
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »23:51
MinatakuOh, someone else got there already23:51
MinatakuAlso23:51
Minataku!automatix23:51
ubotuautomatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »23:51
MinatakuDon't use EITHER of them23:51
ardchoilleMinataku: Indeed23:51
MinatakuUnless you like reinstalling everything from scratch23:51
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kid_confuciusand its using the c-media pci cmi8738 drivers but i still have no sound everything23:54
kid_confuciusdidnt have a problem with sound when i installed ubuntu23:54
kid_confuciusty ardcholiie23:58
kid_confuciusgot the sound workin23:58
ardchoilleAre there any extensions available for konqueror bwe browser? I miss some of them when I used firefox.23:58
MinatakuIf you like extensions, go back to Firefox23:59
geniiardchoille: yeah do apt-cache search konq|grep plugin23:59
MinatakuIt's 100x better anyway23:59
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