[00:03] <Fraggy4> um
[00:03] <anditosan> I have a webcam but my friends can;t see me although I can see myself? What could be the problem. PLease help me!
[00:03] <anditosan> how can I solve this?
[00:04] <anditosan> please
[00:07] <Fraggy4> ?
[00:08] <WaltzingAlong> anditosan: which program?
[00:08] <WaltzingAlong> !webcam
[00:08] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[00:08] <anditosan> kopete
[00:08] <WaltzingAlong> anditosan: which protocol?
[00:08] <chris_> WaltzingAlong, thanks, i used aptitude to remove all the kde4 package deps and going to retry it now
[00:08] <anditosan> msn
[00:11] <anditosan> what do you think?
[00:12] <WaltzingAlong> anditosan: perhaps a firewall is blocking the ports?
[00:12] <anditosan> mmm
[00:12] <anditosan> ok
[00:12] <DaveDorm> yo
[00:12] <DaveDorm> I have a stupid question
[00:12] <anditosan> can I fix that on my computer or do I need to get into the router?
[00:12] <DaveDorm> I used Konsole to ssh somewhere and it added my local username to the list of RSA hosts
[00:12] <WaltzingAlong> anditosan: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdenetwork/kopete/protocols.html#protocols-msn
[00:13] <anditosan> lets see
[00:13] <DaveDorm> and it was different, I should not have added it
[00:13] <DaveDorm> where does KDE/Konsole store this info so I can remove it?
[00:13] <WaltzingAlong> DaveDorm: the relevant files are stored in ~/.ssh such as known_hosts
[00:13] <DaveDorm> ah cool
[00:13] <WaltzingAlong> DaveDorm: ssh stores this info
[00:13] <DaveDorm> a real answer, and not just "RTFM!"
[00:13] <DaveDorm> refreshing, thanks!
[00:14] <anditosan> DaveDorm: I got a wireless belkin router, but I get confused as to how to forward a port
[00:14] <DaveDorm> anditosan:  my router has a web config page
[00:14] <anditosan> it does
[00:14] <DaveDorm> anditosan:  have you tried to log into it and use the onboard config?
[00:14] <anditosan> and I am in the port forwarding page
[00:14] <victoria_> hi
[00:15] <DaveDorm> yeah, it takes some getting used to
[00:15] <DaveDorm> but it should all be there
[00:15] <victoria_> who could help me
[00:15] <WaltzingAlong> victoria_: and your request is?
[00:16] <DaveDorm> what''s the beef, victoria_ ?
[00:16] <victoria_> ehm
[00:16] <victoria_> i need help with instalation in kubuntu
[00:16] <anditosan> DaveDorm: I dont think I know what the onboard config is
[00:17] <WaltzingAlong> DaveDorm: and yes the manual would tell you too :D  man ssh
[00:17] <victoria_> can i talk in pvt with someone about it
[00:17] <anditosan> DaveDorm: in thr router I get asked what is the name of the service that I want to forward, server IP address and the port
[00:18] <victoria_> who has time for me
[00:19] <WaltzingAlong> victoria_: perhaps you could elaborate a bit more first
[00:19] <victoria_> im bit shy
[00:19] <victoria_> talk about technical stuffs
[00:20] <Fraggy4> victoria: I messaged you
[00:20] <victoria_> it blocked me
[00:20] <victoria_> i cant type with you
[00:20] <WaltzingAlong> !register | victoria_
[00:20] <ubotu> victoria_: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[00:20] <anditosan> DaveDorm: the router asks for a SERVER IP ADDRESS, what do I put here?
[00:20] <victoria_> cause m not registered
[00:21] <WaltzingAlong> victoria_: Fraggy4 you two could join your own channel #vicfrag
[00:21] <Fraggy4> Well, i did
[00:21] <WaltzingAlong> anditosan: the number to the machine on your LAN the port of which you want opened - perhaps 192.168.0.100 or such
[00:22] <WaltzingAlong> victoria_: click on #vicfrag or type /join #vicfrag
[00:22] <anditosan> WaltzingAlong: that means that my laptop being the one wanting to get the port forwarded has an IP address? is that what I am looking for?
[00:22] <WaltzingAlong> anditosan: seems so.
[00:22] <anditosan> ok
[00:23] <anditosan> ifcongfig works for that right?
[00:23] <WaltzingAlong> ifconfig yes
[00:23] <anditosan> ok
[00:26] <victoria_> i need help with installation linux dccp
[00:26] <victoria_> it doesnt work when im using commands for it
[00:27] <WaltzingAlong> victoria_: do you have the kubuntu desktop/live cd?
[00:27] <victoria_> no
[00:27] <WaltzingAlong> victoria_: how were you thinking to install?
[00:28] <victoria_> i mean idid: sudo apt-get install dccp
[00:28] <victoria_> tehn it started installin but it showed that file canot be found
[00:29] <WaltzingAlong> victoria_: what should 'dccp' be?
[00:29] <ardchoille> victoria_: dccp isn't in the repos
[00:29] <victoria_> its for chat on local
[00:29] <ardchoille> !info dccp
[00:29] <ubotu> Package dccp does not exist in gutsy
[00:29] <WaltzingAlong> !find dccp
[00:29] <ardchoille> !info dccp feisty
[00:30] <victoria_> i have dccp for chat connected with lan what im using
[00:30] <ubotu> Package/file dccp does not exist in gutsy
[00:30] <ubotu> Package dccp does not exist in feisty
[00:30] <ardchoille> victoria_: apt-get install won't work unless the app is in the repos, and dccp isn't in the repos
[00:30] <victoria_> oh so
[00:30] <victoria_> so what is right command
[00:30] <ardchoille> There isn't one
[00:30] <victoria_> hehe
[00:30] <victoria_> good joke
[00:31] <ardchoille> You'd have to search for an dinstall it manually
[00:31] <poppa> I checked the file /var/lib/update-manager/meta-release.  It seems to be the one in the ubuntu-forums thread.
[00:31] <WaltzingAlong> victoria_: you need to know what you want installed, need to know the name of the package
[00:31] <WaltzingAlong> poppa: another route would be to grab the dvd then run the cdromupgrade script from it
[00:31] <victoria_> aha
[00:32] <poppa> This shouldn't be this hard.  Is there any documentation on how this upgrade
[00:32] <poppa> procedure is supposed to be configured?
[00:32] <WaltzingAlong> poppa: yes on kubuntu.org
[00:32] <poppa> Where?
[00:32] <WaltzingAlong> poppa: or follow the topic
[00:32] <WaltzingAlong> poppa: Upgrade instructions: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[00:32] <victoria_> and i have problems to upgrade new linux ubuntu 7.10 on kubuntu
[00:33] <poppa> That's not useful.  It tells me the GUI commands, which are not working for me.
[00:33] <poppa> Clearly there is some configuration problem.  For example, how does apt know my
[00:33] <WaltzingAlong> poppa: and changing feisty to gutsy, then update and dist-upgrade with aptitude resulted in what?
[00:33] <poppa> system is feisty?  From the sources.list file?
[00:34] <gan|y|med> hi
[00:34] <victoria_> or i wanted using valknut but it doesnt work after i inserted right id about hub where i wanted go
[00:34] <poppa> When I run "apt update" I'm told there are something like 1230 packages to upgrade.  I
[00:35] <gan|y|med> can anyone tell how to enable CFS in the kernel config, that is which option it is (or is it maybe jsut CFQ) ??
[00:35] <poppa> haven't tried "apt dist-upgrade" because that's not easily reversible if it's the wrong thing.
[00:35] <nosrednaekim> gan|y|med: the default gutsy kernel does not have support for that.
[00:36] <victoria_> ta to keby som rozumela
[00:36] <victoria_> heh
[00:36] <poppa> What's the default gutsy kernel version?
[00:37] <WaltzingAlong> poppa: well update then upgrade would be bad, update and dist-upgrade should be better; if you are going that route grab the latest everything of feisty, even proposed
[00:37] <WaltzingAlong> 2.6.22-14 poppa
[00:37] <nosrednaekim> poppa: 2.6.22
[00:37] <poppa> What does "even proposed" mean in this context?
[00:37] <victoria_> ops
[00:38] <victoria_> it was dcpp
[00:38] <victoria_> yay
[00:38] <victoria_> i was wrong
[00:38] <victoria_> now i can install
[00:39] <WaltzingAlong> !find dcpp
[00:39] <gan|y|med> nosrednaekim: i know, i got the 2.6.23 version
[00:39] <ubotu> Found: linuxdcpp, linuxdcpp0.691
[00:40] <victoria_> ok how to install it
[00:40] <WaltzingAlong> victoria_: if you know the package name   sudo aptitude install linuxdcpp                 or you can use adept manager
[00:40] <victoria_> what is adept manager
[00:40] <victoria_> actualisation?
[00:41] <rytis> hellp
[00:42] <victoria_> i hate console
[00:42] <victoria_> its like black hole where i can fall
[00:42] <victoria_> eww
[00:44] <nosrednaekim> victoria_: adept_manager is the package manager
[00:44] <WaltzingAlong> !pastebin > pacxjo
[00:44] <victoria_> aha there are programs
[00:44] <nosrednaekim> rytis: whats you problem?
[00:44] <victoria_> how to install there,?
[00:45] <nosrednaekim> victoria_: click on a program and click install
[00:45] <ignoramus> Hello all.  Anyone have any idea where the default path to "/gecko-sdk" would be?  I'm trying to install the latest version of mplayer...
[00:46] <victoria_> where is program?
[00:46] <victoria_> i opend adept manager
[00:46] <victoria_> now what
[00:46] <nosrednaekim> ignoramus: is that a library or a executable program?
[00:47] <ignoramus> nosrednaekim: i'm guessing library... it's a mozilla plugin
[00:47] <nosrednaekim> victoria_: where is what?
[00:47] <nosrednaekim> what do you want to get?
[00:48] <nosrednaekim> ignoramus: do a "find files and folders"
[00:48] <victoria_> there are some programs
[00:48] <victoria_> there is dcpp too?
[00:48] <ignoramus> nosrednaekim: doing that now... but from root, it takes forever :)
[00:49] <nosrednaekim> victoria_: which program do you want to get?
[00:49] <victoria_> linuxdcpp
[00:49] <victoria_> or similar progarrm
[00:49] <nosrednaekim> victoria_: search for it... there is a search bar at the top of that window
[00:49] <victoria_> i see
[00:49] <victoria_> it
[00:50] <victoria_> :D
[00:50] <nosrednaekim> ignoramus: hehe :D
[00:50] <victoria_> thanx for help
[00:50] <victoria_> :D
[00:51] <victoria_> where are you from here
[00:52] <nosrednaekim> you are welcome
[00:52]  * victoria_ is from Slovakia
[00:53] <nosrednaekim> US
[00:54] <victoria_> wow
[00:54] <victoria_> so far
[00:55] <nosrednaekim> yeah :D
[00:55] <victoria_> its 2 am here
[00:55] <victoria_> im bit tired
[00:56] <victoria_> i need t o sleep
[00:56] <victoria_> bye thanks for help
[00:56] <victoria_> :D
[00:56] <onishidato> onishidato@Annie:~$ sudo aptitude install Kopete
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> haha XD
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> No problem
[00:56] <onishidato> [sudo] password for onishidato:
[00:56] <onishidato> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                                   able)
[00:57] <onishidato> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                                   ess using it?
[00:57] <onishidato> Reading package lists... Done
[00:57] <onishidato> Building dependency tree
[00:57] <onishidato> Reading state information... Done
[00:57] <onishidato> Reading extended state information
[00:57] <onishidato> Initializing package states... Done
[00:57] <onishidato> Building tag database... Done
[00:57] <onishidato> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                                   able)
[00:57] <onishidato> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                                   ess using it?
[00:57] <onishidato> someone can help me with this one
[00:57] <onishidato> i can't install thing uing code
[00:57] <WaltzingAlong> onishidato: do not paste that here
[00:57] <WaltzingAlong> !aptfix | onishidato, and recall that only one such program can use the dpkg db at a time: adept, aptitude, apt-get, dpkg, synaptic, and so on;
[00:57] <ubotu> onishidato, and recall that only one such program can use the dpkg db at a time: adept, aptitude, apt-get, dpkg, synaptic, and so on;: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:59] <lnxkde> guys someoen knows a good tool to convert from flac to mp3 ( I want to convert multiple file with their idtags not one by one
[01:00] <onishidato> onishidato@Annie:~$ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:00] <onishidato>                      USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
[01:00] <onishidato> /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       5691 F.... adept_manager
[01:00] <onishidato> Kill process 5691 ? (y/N)
[01:01] <onishidato> what can i do next?
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> !transcode
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about transcode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> lnxkde: keep in mind that any command line program can be scripted
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> re-run that command... and Kopete isn't capitalized :D
[01:03] <lnxkde> nosrednaekim: true
[01:03] <lnxkde> I have to man transcode :/
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> lnxkde: haha.... yeah... I don't recommend reading that XD
[01:04] <lnxkde> lol
[01:04] <lnxkde> ok
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> lnxkde: google it, im sure someone has scripted up something
[01:05] <lnxkde> ok
[01:08] <dennister> hey channel, has anyone else noticed some real performance problems lately?
[01:08] <onishidato> i can't request the automatix2 to be install, can you help me?
[01:09] <Dragnslcr> Not being able to install automatix is the best help you can get
[01:09] <dennister> cause here's the list of annoying probs that have arisen in the last 24 hours: network settings have to be reset manually after every reboot; drastic slowdowns on fast machines...to the point where amarok and other apps refused to load
[01:10] <dennister> ok, that's only two probs, but very annoying
[01:11] <dennister> i'm on gutsy, but my son is on feisty and he's complaining about the slowdowns too and he's on feisty...his amarok slows down to the point of unusability when there's a playlist of > 16 songs
[01:12] <onishidato> i think amarok is always too slow
[01:13] <dennister> ok 3rd problem that's been going on for months: clock drift is constant even with ntp
[01:14] <dennister> well, never mind amarok for now...having to reset the network after every reboot is a brand new problem and tops the list of issues in terms of negative effects
[01:14] <batis610> i downloaded some figlet fonts but i dont know in wich directory do i have to put them?????
[01:15] <dennister> anyone else observe this?
[01:15] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: all has been well here
[01:15] <batis610> me :)
[01:16] <dennister> what could have caused this change for the worse?
[01:16] <onishidato> i can't make amarok play mp3 file althought after i upgrade it
[01:16] <onishidato> :(
[01:18] <batis610> any help
[01:18] <batis610> ??
[01:18] <onishidato> how can i make i work with mp3 files now?
[01:18] <onishidato> the amarok i mean
[01:20] <dennister> onishidato: do u have libxinextracodecs installed?
[01:21] <onishidato> how can i know?
[01:21] <dennister> onishidato: use adept or synaptic and do a search for 'codecs'
[01:21] <dennister> you'll then see if it's already installed or not
[01:22] <stdin> the package is actually "libxine1-ffmpeg" now
[01:22] <stdin> or just install "kubuntu-restricted-extras" on gutsy
[01:22] <dennister> ahhhh, stdin :) the real expert
[01:23] <onishidato> i have install that package but amarok still can't play mp3 file
[01:23] <stdin> restart amarok after installing it
[01:23] <dennister> stdin: have others been complaining about drastic slowdowns or having to manually reset network settings after every reboot?
[01:24] <stdin> dennister: none that I've seen
[01:24] <onishidato> can you help me?
[01:24] <stdin> but even though I'm here all the time, I'm not always "here" ;P
[01:24] <dennister> very, very annoying
[01:25] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: i had problems with a router not handling dns requests well
[01:25] <onishidato> i have install that package but amarok still can't play mp3 file
[01:25] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: bypassed the router as a nameserver and all is well
[01:26] <stdin> onishidato: after you've installed the package just restart amarok (File->Quit or it'll just minimise)
[01:26] <dennister> onishidato: !restricted formats
[01:26] <dennister> !restricted formats
[01:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:26] <bascule> might need to wipe out ~/.xine if it cintinues moaning
[01:26] <stdin> dennister: "!factoid | user"  not "user: !factoid"
[01:27] <dennister> thx stdin
[01:28] <dennister> WaltzingAlong: but my problem started all of a sudden, my month-old router always did very well
[01:28] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: and have you traced the issue to some source? used the process of elimination to rule out candidates?
[01:28] <dennister> this has only become a problem in the last 24 hours
[01:30] <dennister> WaltzingAlong: i've tried, but I can't seem to isolate any change that might have caused the prob
[01:30] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: which makes it all the more challenging from here on out
[01:31] <dennister> yes, i realize that...i was just wondering if perhaps i wasn't alone and it was some buggy update or something that was affecting others, too
[01:31] <WaltzingAlong> what slows down about amarok? and i think there was a recent mplayer or libxine update
[01:32] <dennister> well, i just found the issue with amarok (and all apps) that I had, anyway...an incomplete mplayer update
[01:33] <dennister> i'm still wondering about scott's slowdown problem with playlists > 16 songs
[01:34] <dennister> brb
[01:45] <dennister> oh great :) here it is again: Amarok: [Loader] Amarok is taking a long time to load! Perhaps something has gone wrong?
[01:46] <dennister> no sh** sherlock
[01:48] <dennister> WaltzingAlong: did u see my latest? ^^...it finally did load, btw, but no linux app should take 6 minutes or more
[01:49] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: took 6 minutes to start amarok? were you using a mysql db to store the collection?
[01:49] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: some addon or script not behaving?
[01:50] <dennister> WaltzingAlong: no, it's the standard sqlite that comes with amarok, no addon or script...
[01:51] <dennister> i have not made any changes to amarok or my system lately, except for updates
[01:51] <aziegler> sorry for my bad english, but maybe there is a math guru and cann tell me what the result from the negation of an implication is?
[01:52] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: do not know. check in #amarok perhaps
[01:52] <aziegler> something like this - (a -> b)
[01:52] <stdin> aziegler: this is not a math support channel
[01:52] <siflidhap> Welcome.  It's nice to meet you.
[01:52] <aziegler> is the result - a <-> -b ???
[01:53] <dennister> WaltzingAlong: ok, i will thanks, but i am tempted to say that the slowdown probs r probably system-wide, and not app-specific
[01:53] <stdin> aziegler: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:53] <aziegler> yes, but i think here are some informatic students :-)
[01:53] <aziegler> cause i need it for theoretic informatic
[01:54] <stdin> aziegler: fine, but ask in #ubuntu-offtopic not in here
[01:54] <BluesKaj> 1+1=2 , in theory, then again it could make 3 in time :)
[02:00] <Klowner> http://klowner.deviantart.com/art/Flowbright-Kubuntu-70353290   just cranked out a fresh boring little wallypaper if anyone cares
[02:01] <gan|y|med> hi
[02:01] <darkness> hi
[02:01] <dennister> anyone know how to turn this bloody eye candy off? i think it might be sapping resources and i'm tired of these constant greying app boxes
[02:01] <gan|y|med> has anybody compiled kernel 2.6.23.1??
[02:02] <stdin> Klowner: put it up on kde-look.org
[02:02] <Klowner> stdin: no thanks
[02:03] <Klowner> I removed all my stuff from kde-look after the linspire incident
[02:04] <dennister> linspire incident?
[02:05] <Klowner> yah they used some of my stuff in promotional material without providing attribution
[02:05] <Klowner> so, meh, not a fan
[02:07] <stdin> dennister: try using kpersonalizer to disable most effects
[02:09] <dennister> thieves everywhere...will try kpersonalizer
[02:11] <dennister> great, now alt-tab isn't working and for some reason my cursor has morphed into something unusable...this is just *not* my day
[02:12] <dennister> does anyone hear the sound of frustration emanating from this little corner of cyberspace?
[02:12] <mike-kubuntu> hey guys, i want to test out running a game in wine with a fresh registry and everything, trying to get soul reaver 2 to work and for some reason the italien version installed correctly and ran perfectly, but the english version i just got wont even open, anyone know how to make wine act like new without deleting everything else?
[02:12] <WaltzingAlong> mike-kubuntu: you could mv .wine .wine_saved
[02:13] <mike-kubuntu> waltzingalong: thanks, i'll try
[02:13] <dennister> perhaps a cig and a reboot will solve some of my isues...bbs
[02:15] <|Aryn|> hey guys ;)
[02:16] <|Aryn|> I'm looking for the software "netspeed", but the analog one for KDE
[02:16] <|Aryn|> can someone help me plz?
[02:17] <russell--> how do i reconfigure my x server?
[02:18] <russell--> xorg.conf has some junk entries on it
[02:18] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:18] <stdin> |Aryn|: try knetload or knetdockapp
[02:18] <russell--> thanks
[02:19] <darkness> also |Aryn| you could try knetstats
[02:19] <stdin> that's the other one I couldn't remember
[02:19] <|Aryn|> hm, which of these is netspeed at closest?^^
[02:19] <stdin> never used the gome applet, so I have no clue
[02:19] <russell--> bazhang: will it replace the xorg.conf file?
[02:20] <darkness> I think you can put knetstats in icon mode, like netspeed
[02:20] <Shadix> Heya! If I am running Gnome do i need any of the packages in package manager for KDE? i mean are some used for some other apps?
[02:21] <|Aryn|> darkness: yea, that's what i wanted, to show up my network-card's speed in icon-mode, thx a lot!
[02:21] <darkness> you are welcome
[02:21] <|Aryn|> :)
[02:22] <DM|> ok so new to KDE, installed it on a second box, whats the KDE version of gksudo?
[02:22] <darkness> DM: kdesudo
[02:22] <darkness> in 7.10
[02:22] <|Aryn|> kdesu til 7.04
[02:22] <Shadix> man your a Kubuntu ninja darkness
[02:22] <DM|> kk kdesudo thank
[02:23] <DM|> s
[02:23] <stdin> kdesu will work in 7.04, it just links to kdesudo
[02:23] <DM|> errp
[02:23] <DM|> i thought adept was kde's package manager
[02:23] <darkness> yes it is
[02:23] <coreymon77> anyone here good with the gimp?
[02:23] <DM|> sudo adept, command not fond
[02:23] <Shadix> I'm running both
[02:24] <|Aryn|> stdin: you mean kdesudo
[02:24] <darkness> it is adept_manager
[02:24] <|Aryn|> which links to kdesu
[02:24] <stdin> |Aryn|: no
[02:24] <|Aryn|> DM|: sudo apt-get install kdesudo
[02:25] <stdin> |Aryn|: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2007-11-01 21:05 /usr/bin/kdesu -> kdesudo                kdesu links to kdesudo
[02:25] <DM|> aryn im running gutsy on that machine do i really need to do that
[02:25] <stdin> DM|: kdesudo is pre-installed
[02:25] <DM|> thats all i need then
[02:25] <DM|> thanks
[02:26] <DM|> its weird working on KDE after on GNOME for so long
[02:26] <darkness> why did you switch?
[02:26] <DM|> didnt switch
[02:27] <DM|> Just have a compy im going to be running as a VM server
[02:27] <DM|> and figured ill use KDE on it, to get used to it at the same time
[02:27] <darkness> oh
[02:27] <|Aryn|> compy = computer?
[02:27] <DM|> my heart still lies with GNOME, its much smoother
[02:27] <DM|> yes compy= computer
[02:30] <spcKDE> where do i find kubuntu apps?
[02:30] <DM|> kde-apps.org
[02:30] <DM|> iirc
[02:30] <spcKDE> oki
[02:31] <spcKDE> ty
[02:31] <Jucato> spcKDE: you can try searching in Add/Remove Programs
[02:31] <Jucato> or Adept Manager
[02:32] <spcKDE> difference from that two?
[02:32] <spcKDE> none?
[02:32] <WaltzingAlong> adept manager would show all of them while add/remove shows some and grouped
[02:32] <Jucato> Add/Remove Programs has a simplified interface and only shows some programs. Adept Manager is more superpowered and shows everything
[02:33] <spcKDE> i find hard to read all those apps :D
[02:33] <spcKDE> tnx
[02:33] <Jucato> (actually Add/Remove Programs is an alias for Adept Installer...)
[02:33] <spcKDE> kubuntu is great
[02:33] <spcKDE> i eaven managed to get my usbWirless to work
[02:33] <spcKDE> best OS
[02:34] <spcKDE> _D
[02:34] <darkness> does anybody know if it is possible to run Joost with wine?
[02:34] <DM|> whats this.. "" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0 when i open up kate , mentioning /tm/ksocket-HOSTNAME
[02:34] <Shadix> if I have the Gnome enviro installed can i go ahead and uninstall all the KDE packages?
[02:35] <DM|> */tmp/ksocket*
[02:35] <dennister> k...i'm back...found the network annoyance source; fixed
[02:35] <Jucato> Shadix: if you want to
[02:36] <Shadix> right but what i'm getting at is are there any apps I may be running that would rely on them?
[02:36] <Jucato> if you're running some kde apps, then yes of course they'd depend on kde packages :)
[02:37] <Jucato> if you're just running GNOME, nope
[02:37] <mike-kubuntu> this is so wierd, anyone here have soul reaver or soul reaver 2 running in wine?
[02:37] <mike-kubuntu> the italien version installed and ran perfectly, now the english verison wont run at all
[02:37] <mike-kubuntu> wierdin me out
[02:38] <Jucato> #winehq might be the best place to ask about it
[02:38] <Shadix> well what i'm trying to so is get ride of the KDE enviroment only (Ie, login and splash, desktop)
[02:38] <mike-kubuntu> kk
[02:40] <dennister> but the pc is still slow as molasses
[02:40] <dennister> only have 3 apps open, and even terminal is so sllllloooooowwwwwww
[02:43] <darkness> one thing i find weird is that my computer almost always shows it is using about 1.7GB of RAM (it has 2GB) even when I only have about 3 windows
[02:43] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: ah so you installed xserver-xgl but are not using compiz? or check htop to see what is eating your cpu
[02:43] <darkness> it doesn't slow down though
[02:43] <WaltzingAlong> darkness: wonderful! you should be so happy that the kernel is working so well
[02:43] <DM|> does KDE have a firewall like Firestarter
[02:44] <WaltzingAlong> !info guarddog | DM|
[02:44] <ubotu> dm|: guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 482 kB, installed size 1436 kB
[02:44] <WaltzingAlong> !info iptables | DM|, and firestarter is just the frontend, so is guarddog
[02:44] <ubotu> dm|, and firestarter is just the frontend, so is guarddog: iptables: administration tools for packet filtering and NAT. In component main, is standard. Version 1.3.6.0debian1-5ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 367 kB, installed size 1268 kB
[02:44] <dennister> WaltzingAlong: i was using compiz, but i'm so annoyed with it constantly greying out my apps i'm trying to get rid of it
[02:44] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: well there you have it. so get rid of compiz and xserver-xgl get back to the normal xserver-xorg
[02:45] <dennister> terminal has so far taken over 5 minutes to simply fetch kpersonalizer...and counting
[02:45] <dennister> over 5 minutes to apt-get one app is crazy
[02:46] <BadSneakers> something's clearly not working normally
[02:46] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: but at least now you know what to do
[02:46] <DM|> is guarddog installed by default?
[02:46] <BadSneakers> don't think so
[02:46] <WaltzingAlong> DM|: wno
[02:46] <WaltzingAlong> no*
[02:47] <WaltzingAlong> DM|: but iptables is
[02:47] <dennister> BadSneakers: yes, but why all of a sudden am i having so many issues? this is normally a very quick machine, and cerrtainly was yesterday
[02:47] <darkness> WaltzingAlong: thanks for the PM, i couldnt answer because i am not registered
[02:47] <DM|> aye but iptables is a little harder to configure if you arent familiar with it
[02:47] <DM|> I realize they are the same thing techincally
[02:47] <DM|> but still
[02:47] <WaltzingAlong> anyway i would guess that most of the ram is being used for disk caching
[02:48] <WaltzingAlong> maybe if one knows enough to install something that opens a port then one also knows enough to install guarddog/firestarter to configure the firewall?
[02:48] <BadSneakers> dennister  I really can't be specific,  I use pretty standard things.  if you added that compwiz fusion thing and the problem began, then . . .
[02:49] <WaltzingAlong> yes remove xserver-xgl then get back to the normal aiglx xserver-xorg
[02:49] <darkness> WaltzingAlong: yes it is, about 70%
[02:50] <WaltzingAlong> darkness: how is your swap by the way?
[02:50] <dennister> BadSneakers: compiz was added weeks ago...the system-wide problems just started today
[02:50] <darkness> WatlzingAlong: totally completely free, not a single bit is used
[02:50] <dennister> now 10 minutes to apt-get one app...
[02:51] <BlackDiamonds> can one get KDE4 RC1 though ubuntu servers ?
[02:51] <BlackDiamonds> or must one follow the instructions in the topic ?
[02:51] <Jucato> BlackDiamonds: the topic
[02:52] <dennister> and so far it's still reading the database
[02:52] <BadSneakers> dennister  Ksysguard will show you what is using the resources
[02:52] <Jucato> (PPA's are on the ubuntu/canonical servers anyway...)
[02:52] <BlackDiamonds> ah, I did not want some third party thing, it makes me uneasy. Thank you
[02:52] <WaltzingAlong> darkness: :D
[02:52] <nightf0x> hi, i installed kubuntu 7.10 today, and looked in the xorg.conf and there is no "modules" section. is this something new for 7.10?
[02:53] <WaltzingAlong> darkness: so you see how it works, ram access is what all of 9ns whereas hd access is 9ms? must faster to get it from ram
[02:53] <nightf0x> also games that use 3d run very slow
[02:53] <nightf0x> however glxgears shows 1900+ fps
[02:53] <nightf0x> and glxinfo says direct rendering: yes
[02:53] <MinusSeven> When I installed Kubuntu before, I couldn't find the /etc/fstab file
[02:53] <Jucato> nightf0x: no modules? yes I think so.
[02:54] <Jucato> nightf0x: what OpenGL renderer is it using according to glxinfo?
[02:55] <nightf0x> OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 7.0.1
[02:55] <nightf0x> is that what u meant?
[02:55] <darkness> WaltzingAlong: oh, I get it now, thanks for all your help
[02:55] <nightf0x> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 4x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
[02:55] <Jucato> nightf0x: yep. and that's where your problem lies
[02:55] <nightf0x> do you know how i can fix it?
[02:56] <WaltzingAlong> nightf0x: systemsettings/advanced/restricted manager
[02:56] <nightf0x> says your hardware doesn't need any restirced drivers
[02:56] <nightf0x> its radeon 9000
[02:57] <nightf0x> in feisty it worked well with opesource driver
[02:57] <nightf0x> infact i didn't have to touch xorg.conf at all
[02:57] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx 8.42.3 (this one supports AIGLX) howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide (for 3d support on older radeon cards, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver for data) | nightf0x - then you want 'radeon'; check the page as you may have pieces of fglrx getting in the way
[02:57] <BlackDiamonds> will KDE4 be released for 7.10 via backports or something ?
[02:58] <WaltzingAlong> BlackDiamonds: kde4rc1 is there already!!
[02:58] <nightf0x> i'll try the "radeon" driver then
[02:58] <nightf0x> thx
[02:58] <BlackDiamonds> in backports ?
[02:58] <|Aryn|> WaltzingAlong: can i have kde 3.5 and kde4rc1 parallel?
[02:58] <WaltzingAlong> |Aryn|: yes
[02:58] <Jucato> yes
[02:58] <|Aryn|> and how?
[02:58]  * Jucato points to the channel topic again
[02:59] <WaltzingAlong> BlackDiamonds: according to the instructions in the top or www.kubuntu.org
[02:59] <dennister> k, 18 minutes so far and kpersonalizer still isn't installed...:(
[02:59] <|Aryn|> ok, thx^^
[02:59] <WaltzingAlong> |Aryn|: according to the instructions in the top or www.kubuntu.org
[02:59] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: remove xserver-xgl drop to tty1 as just x is slow
[02:59] <BlackDiamonds> thats not gutsy-backports
[02:59] <BlackDiamonds> that some package from a launchpad server
[03:00] <BlackDiamonds> a build of some sort I believe
[03:00] <WaltzingAlong> BlackDiamonds: yes not in backports
[03:00] <dennister> BadSneakers: i've finally got ksysgaurd open, but it seems curiously empty of resources-hogging clues
[03:00] <dennister> WaltzingAlong: "drop to tty1"????
[03:00] <WaltzingAlong> nightf0x: also pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log if you want. it may explain why the radeon 3d was not already in use
[03:00] <stdin> it will be in backports sometime
[03:00] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: ctrl+alt+f1
[03:01] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: c+a+f7 to get back
[03:02] <dennister> k, soon...kpersonalizer is unpacking now
[03:02] <|Aryn|> how can I save a console-command in a file, so I just have to click on the file and the command will be executed? So I save the time to type the command by hand every time for often sued command...you know what I mean xD
[03:02] <dennister> of course, that 'unpacking could take another 22 minutes, heheheh
[03:03] <|Aryn|> used*
[03:03] <|Aryn|> +s
[03:03] <nightf0x> do u want me to paste the whole log here?
[03:03] <Jucato> !pastebin | nightf0x
[03:03] <ubotu> nightf0x: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:03] <WaltzingAlong> |Aryn|: so a small script? just a text file with a few lines
[03:03] <rfmonk> !Dolphin
[03:03] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[03:04] <MinusSeven> Just wondering, which do you think is more stable KDE or GNOME?
[03:04] <|Aryn|> nightf0x: did you mean me?
[03:04] <nightf0x> i pasted it
[03:04] <nightf0x> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45445/
[03:04] <stdin> MinusSeven: you're asking in #kubuntu, guess what we're going to say
[03:04] <WaltzingAlong> |Aryn|: you could also make an alias for it in .bashrc
[03:05] <MinusSeven> ok
[03:07] <darkness> should I leave kdm as the default manager when installing kdm-kde4??
[03:07] <stdin> darkness: doesn't matter, you won't be using kde4's kdm
[03:09] <nightf0x> btw i looked at that opensource radeon guide and it said to put         Mode 0666 into section DRI. i tired it earlier today and my xserver wouldn't start so i had to remove it
[03:09] <darkness> stdin: thanks
[03:09] <greencoo1ie> wtf
[03:10] <stdin> !wtf > greencoo1ie
[03:10] <greencoo1ie> This is wierd. I can't log into my nick greencookie. Ive been trying for a long time:)
[03:10] <greencoo1ie> im using irssi
[03:11] <Hobbsee> !ghost | greencoo1ie
[03:11] <ubotu> greencoo1ie: On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[03:11] <greencoo1ie> ok
[03:11] <greencoo1ie> !nick
[03:11] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[03:11] <greencoo1ie> how do I change nikc?
[03:11] <greencoo1ie>  /nick greencookie
[03:11] <stdin> yeah
[03:12] <greencoo1ie> nothing happens when I type that:)
[03:12] <BlackDiamonds> no space
[03:12] <greencoo1ie> it says nick greencookie already in use while ive ghost'ed the nick bout 100 times
[03:12] <dennister> stdin: it's now been more than 30 minutes just to apt-get kpersonalizer
[03:13] <stdin> dennister: see what top says is eating the cpu
[03:13] <greencookie> yes! finally
[03:14] <greencookie> thanks guys. bye
[03:15] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi, Does anyone know of any linux jobs in the USA?
[03:15] <tuxwulf_> I remember I saw a place to change the login screen. Can anyone remind me? I seem to have lost it.....
[03:15] <CPrgmSwR2> tuxwulf_: under systemsettings
[03:15] <CPrgmSwR2> advance tab
[03:15] <CPrgmSwR2> login manager
[03:16] <stdin> CPrgmSwR2: asking about jobs isn't a kubuntu support question, is it ;)
[03:16] <CPrgmSwR2> stdin: sorry for asking
[03:16] <stdin> CPrgmSwR2: #ubuntu-offtopic is a much better place to ask anyway
[03:17] <CPrgmSwR2> thank you stdin
[03:19] <tuxwulf_> CPrgmSwR2: I see.. Doesn't look like the one I saw before but perhaps that was pure Debian. Thanks! I will wrestle with it...
[03:19] <CPrgmSwR2> tuxwulf_: make sure you put it into administrator mode
[03:20] <CPrgmSwR2> btw tuxwulf_ before where you using gnome rather than kde?
[03:20]  * Jucato wonders if tuxwulf_ was referring to kdmtheme
[03:20] <dennister> stdin: top is telling me what I believed to be true...i'm hardly using any of my cpu...nothing is taking more than 10% (xorg, but it can go as low as 1%, too); artsd is often going as hight as 10%...i hardly have anything running
[03:21] <stdin> tuxwulf_: probably System Settings > Appearance > KDM Theme Manager
[03:21] <tuxwulf_> CPrgmSwR2: Eh no, but I was not always using Kubuntu, but pure Debian with pure KDE.
[03:21] <stdin> hmm
[03:22] <dennister> i finally killed the apt-get process...nothing should take 30 minutes to install
[03:22] <tuxwulf_> CPrgmSwR2: Thanks ! But that was not it... I am usually too lazy to change all those...
[03:23] <tuxwulf_> CPrgmSwR2: Have to get off now... Bye!
[03:23] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: remove xserver-xgl
[03:23] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: or compiz --replace
[03:24] <darkness> dennister: why dont you just kill compiz
[03:26] <BluesKaj> dennister , some of the canuck repos have been having probs staying up today
[03:26] <BluesKaj> I got stalled for almost an hr this morning
[03:41] <dennister> ok...got booted, but i had to make sure everything was purged and xorg edited properly
[03:41] <espacious> i have an usbwirless adapater i managed out to get it work
[03:42] <armando> uyuda con wifi
[03:42] <espacious> but now after reboot no wirless
[03:42] <armando> ayuda con wifi
[03:42] <dennister> things seem a lot faster now (like usual), and it seems i didn't have sxerver-xgl installed anyway
[03:42] <espacious> i have inserted a driver from windows
[03:42] <espacious> any help?
[03:42] <darkness> armando: whats the problem
[03:43] <espacious> seems there is no wlan0 as it was before
[03:43] <armando> wifi
[03:43] <armando> no sirve
[03:44] <darkness> espacious: you used ndiswrapper right?
[03:44] <darkness> did you add it to /etc/modules?
[03:45] <darkness> armando: what brand is the card you are using
[03:45] <darkness> is it broadcom?
[03:45] <armando> broadcom
[03:45] <armando> yes
[03:46] <darkness> did you try the restricted manager?
[03:46] <armando> yes
[03:47] <espacious> darkness jes ndiswrapper , how do i add?
[03:47] <espacious> what should i write inside modules?
[03:48] <espacious> i have fuse,lp,sbp2
[03:48] <darkness> yes, add ndiswrapper below those
[03:48] <espacious> anda reboot?
[03:48] <darkness> yep
[03:49] <mushroomblue> you have to do a voodoo chant, first.
[03:49] <espacious> let's see
[03:49] <mushroomblue> otherwise, it doesn't work.
[03:49] <espacious> ?
[03:50] <darkness> yes, you have to repeat aloud three times "beetlejuice"
[03:50] <espacious> jup
[03:51] <darkness> then send this conversation to 20 of your contacts
[03:51] <apow> ancient spirits of networking... transform this crappy windows driver to a native linux module! *cue thundercats background music*
[03:51] <dennister> night all
[03:51] <darkness> good night
[03:51] <helloo01> HELLO
[03:51] <darkness> hello helloo
[03:51] <helloo01> no dpnt go
[03:52] <helloo01> The moon is Shining
[03:52] <apow> anyone had success with those kde4 debs?
[03:52] <helloo01> no.
[03:52] <darkness> i installed from repositories
[03:52] <helloo01> I didnt bother
[03:52] <apow> did it work?
[03:52] <helloo01> No, because I didn't bother
[03:52] <helloo01> DUDE
[03:52] <darkness> yes
[03:53] <darkness> it worked fine
[03:53] <darkness> just followed the instructions at kubuntu.com
[03:53] <apow> hm... i think i'll try it out :)
[03:56] <espacious> seems when i get in gnome wirless works but not in kde, only if i first start a gnome session
[03:56] <espacious> works in kde
[03:58] <espacious> becouse wpa protocol is now auto
[03:58] <espacious> before u can select only open or shared...
[03:59] <darkness> in kde the networks don't appear?
[03:59] <darkness> or the card simply doesn't work at all
[04:02] <espacious> dont appear
[04:02] <espacious> if i first come in kde
[04:04] <darkness> are you using knetworkmanager?
[04:04] <flaccid> i have an ati radeon using the radeon driver. what is the right/easiest/best way to set up dual display? doing it in the gui fails
[04:04] <espacious> jes
[04:05] <SpaceGhost> I have some questions (I'm a kubuntu noob), anyone available to answer some? :)
[04:05] <darkness> you could try to use gnome's network manager on kde to see if it works
[04:06] <darkness> SpaceGhost: if i know the answer, sure i'll help
[04:06] <espacious> now it works
[04:06] <espacious> but as i said if i first go in kde after start lappy dont find any network
[04:07] <espacious> i meaned any wirless network
[04:07] <SpaceGhost> I installed a clean install of Kubuntu..but any time it tries to install any updates, or most installs in general, it tells me 'commit failed' and cancels the install.
[04:08] <SpaceGhost> Sometimes even though it told me it failed, it works anyway, and sometimes it doesn't.
[04:08] <darkness> espacious: i don't know... can anyone else help?
[04:09] <genii> Bah. Launchpad is down
[04:09]  * genii sips a coffee
[04:09] <nightf0x> after messing around w/ xorg.conf  i made it only worse. now i don't have any 3d acceleration eventhough xorg.conf is returned to previous state.
[04:09] <espacious> will see
[04:10] <SpaceGhost> darkness: Do you have any idea why it might doing that?
[04:10] <darkness> @SpaceGhost, i don't know whay that happens either, it happens to me sometimes also
[04:11] <darkness> but not most of the time
[04:11] <nightf0x> does any want to take a look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see whats wrong?
[04:13] <SpaceGhost> Also, I was having problems with packages, I realized I need .deb packages, not .rpm (Like I said, I'm a noob :)  However, the ubuntu site says to download Alien..gave me a link...and it won't install.  Doesn't even see any valid files /to/ install.
[04:13] <SpaceGhost> Which leads me to believe I am doing something stupif.
[04:13] <SpaceGhost> d
[04:14] <darkness> you can install alien from repositories
[04:14]  * genii ponders sudo apt-get install alien
[04:14] <SpaceGhost> Right, I went right off the ubuntu site, and downloaded the .tar.gz , I extracted it, and it told me the .gz was corrupt.
[04:15]  * genii ponders sudo apt-get install alien once more
[04:15] <darkness> open a console and type sudo apt-get install alien
[04:15] <SpaceGhost> Oh, sorry genii I have the text fonts wierd, and I didn't see it.
[04:15] <SpaceGhost> Thanks.  I'll try that
[04:16] <genii> SpaceGhost: Altho, only use rpm files to install something when ABSOLUTELY no ubuntu package exists
[04:17] <SpaceGhost> Yeah, well the problem is I need to use a CAC Card and the Firefox add-on CAC Card addon doesn't work, and I heard a lot of people talk about one that works that's in an rpm
[04:18] <genii> Does it use the same chip type as for instance Fido Cards?
[04:19] <genii> (fido SIM )
[04:19] <SpaceGhost> Not exactly.  They are DOD.  But I just found an ubuntu one called coolkey.  It installed...now I just have to figure out how to use it
[04:19] <darkness> maybe this could help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=564763&highlight=cac%20reader%20install
[04:20] <t3ch13> I just bumped the memory in my laptop from 1 Gig to 2 Gig. In windows I can see a major improvement but can't seem to notice any difference in Linux do I need to do anything special in Linux?
[04:21] <genii> t3ch13: It was already efficient with 1Gb so more ram will not give you some noticeable boost
[04:22] <t3ch13> So I guess it's not like windoze then more memory better prerformance
[04:25] <SpaceGhost> @darkness That helped, even though it inexplicably doesn't work. :)
[04:25] <SpaceGhost> @darkness But it SHOULD have worked, so that was a huge help, now I just have to figure out what i did wrong.  Thanks
[04:26] <darkness> @SpaceGhost You are welcome
[04:27] <genii> t3ch13: Yes, exactly. Sorry for lag, was in another channel giving assistance
[04:27] <t3ch13> Ok thanks genii
[04:37] <funcrush> The package name, "sun-java6-jdk" is wrong?
[04:42] <funcrush> I'm looking for jdk T-T
[04:42] <Jucato> !info sun-java6-jdk
[04:42] <ubotu> sun-java6-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-03-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 9286 kB, installed size 31304 kB
[04:46] <funcrush> thx but, my adept manager can't find sun-java6-jdk
[04:46] <underdog5004> how do I do file transfers with irssi?
[04:46] <Jucato> what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[04:46] <funcrush> 7.10
[04:47] <Jucato> that's strange...
[04:47] <Jucato> fresh install?
[04:48] <genii> funcrush: Enable multiverse repo
[04:48] <funcrush> hm..
[04:48] <Jucato> which should be enabled anyway
[04:48] <Jucato> I'm guessing the cdrom repository is still enabled?
[04:48] <genii> Jucato: It definitely was commented out on my default install.
[04:48] <Jucato> genii: which version did you install?
[04:49] <genii> Jucato: 7.10 32 bit cd, from shipit
[04:49] <Jucato> I just did a fresh install yesterday and it's definitely enabled
[04:49] <genii> (ubuntu gnome, not kubuntu)
[04:49] <Jucato> (command-line system, no GUI)
[04:49] <genii> funcrush: Did you do an offline insall? eg: no internet during install
[04:50] <genii> *install
[04:50] <funcrush> thx genii!!
[04:50] <funcrush> I check multiverse repo
[04:50] <Jucato> weird...
[04:50] <funcrush> then, the things resolved
[04:51] <mac_> 中午好
[04:52] <biovore> !ch
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <angel> hello
[04:53] <mac_> 有明白中文的吗？？
[04:54] <genii> !cn
[04:54] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[04:55] <mac_> who can speak Chinese here?
[04:55] <darkness> but you speak english
[04:56] <Dr_willis> Moogoo gai pan! and an extra side of  Crab Ragoon!
[04:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:56] <Dr_willis> Yummm...
[04:56] <Dr_willis> Crab Ragoon are just.... too good.. :)
[04:56] <angel> nadie habla chino !!!!!
[04:56] <darkness> ni español!
[04:57] <mac_> ？？？？？
[04:57] <genii> mac_: It seems no one currently in this channel speaks chinese except you
[04:57] <darkness> Sorry mac_ nobody speaks chinese here
[04:58] <darkness> hey funcrush, what IDE do you use to program java?
[04:59] <darkness> eclipse?
[04:59] <TobyK> hi... I'm having  a weird issue with compiz fusion on kubuntu 7.10 - when I enable compiz on my nvidia twinview setup, it works fine, and compiz keystrokes work, but none of my KDE shortcuts work anymore (e.g. alt-f2, or Ctrl+C) Infact Ctrl and Alt just don't work at all except for compiz shortcuts - anyone else have this issue?
[05:00] <TobyK> if I kill compiz, then the ctrl and alt keys work as normal
[05:00] <stdin> TobyK: #compiz-fusion is the place to ask
[05:00] <TobyK> ok thanks
[05:05] <mac_> my os is ubuntu but who can tell me what is kubuntu??
[05:06] <Jucato> !kubuntu | mac_
[05:06] <ubotu> mac_: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[05:06] <darkness> !KDE | mac_
[05:06] <ubotu> mac_: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[05:16] <sledge> Mmm.... does Raid5 work with 2 x 500GB + 1 x 480GB?
[05:18] <genii> So long as less than 2Tb yes
[05:18] <genii> But you will get 480x3
[05:19] <genii> x2 actually since one is checksum, etc
[05:19] <sledge> Right.
[05:20] <sledge> Suppose I decommission the third, the 480 gigs one, and replace it with a proper 500 GB one. I should be able to fail the drive, keep it as two disks, add the third drive, and let it rebuild. Correct?
[05:21] <sledge> At which point I'll a have 2x500GB = 1TB volume.
[05:21] <ubuntu> I'm running kubuntu live on my laptop .. wireless works finen but konqueror won't connect to the net .. any ideas?
[05:22] <genii> Yup, exactly
[05:22] <genii> ^ sledge
[05:22] <sledge> Good. :)
[05:22] <sledge> I like the read throughput.
[05:23] <sledge> 150 MB/s :P
[05:23] <ubuntu> are there any special settings for konqueror u have to change to get it to connect to the net .. ?
[05:24] <genii> ubuntu: No, just put a url in the top bar instead of something starting file://   or such
[05:24] <ubuntu> I did .. www.google.ca
[05:25] <ubuntu> yet I can ping just fine .. plus I'm chatting here ..
[05:25] <sledge> ubuntu: Can you open a konsole and run  iwconfig?
[05:25] <sledge> ubuntu: What's the content of /etc/resolv.conf?
[05:25] <genii> Do other apps find domain names?
[05:26] <ubuntu> yeah just shows my that my wireless is up ... but it does say no wireless extensions on the top
[05:27] <genii> ubuntu: Did you have konq open before you enabled the wireless/network?
[05:27] <ubuntu> I just booted from livecd so etc/resolv.conf is default IO guess
[05:27] <ubuntu> I closed it and tried again
[05:27] <genii> Ah, OK
[05:27] <genii> No other immediate idea then
[05:28] <sledge> ubuntu: Try tracepath'ing www.google.ca
[05:28] <sledge> And see were it drops out.
[05:28] <ubuntu> hmm resolv.conf has nameserver 192.168.1.1 ... thats my router I guess
[05:29] <sledge> ubuntu: Is that the only entry? Make sure it actually _is_ your router. :P
[05:30] <ubuntu> pretty sure
[05:30] <genii> I'm 99% sure it IS the router
[05:30] <sledge> ubuntu: What about yahoo.com or ubuntu.org?
[05:30] <ubuntu> found the problem .. trace path dies after it reaches my provider ...weird as my other laptop can reach it just fine
[05:31] <ubuntu> strange
[05:32] <sledge> ubuntu: Is this the first time you're trying to use two clients at once?
[05:32] <ubuntu> nope
[05:32] <ubuntu> normally I have windows on this laptop
[05:32] <mac_> who can tell me how to play wow on linux???
[05:32] <ubuntu> tried ubuntu out of curiosity
[05:32] <genii> Ask in #winehq
[05:33] <sledge> mac_: http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS4169902864.html
[05:34] <ubuntu> thanks guys
[05:34] <sledge> ubuntu: You're welcome.
[05:35] <genii> sledge: I'd forgotten wine is no longer needed LOL
[05:35] <sledge> ?
[05:36] <genii> sledge: nvm, for a moment I thought there was a native linux client
[05:36]  * genii thinks about his caffeine deficiency
[05:37]  * ardchoille hands genii  a coffee
[05:38] <genii> ardchoille: Thanks, much appreciated :)
[05:38] <ardchoille> :)
[05:38]  * genii tips ardchoille
[05:38] <genii> ;)
[05:40] <genii> Bleh. 20 to 1 in the AM
[05:41] <ardchoille> I just made a multi-boot livedvd (kubuntu desktop cd, ubuntu desktop cd, system rescue cd, and knoppix livecd). How do I take a screenshot of the livecd boot screen menu?
[05:42] <ardchoille> I suppose I could run it in a virtual machine and take a screenshot of that
[05:42] <darkness> ardchoille: with a VM i guess
[06:06] <Noob12356266> hello
[06:06] <Noob12356266> can anybody help me install firefox in kubuntu 7.04
[06:06] <seanix> hi
[06:07] <Noob12356266> heya, can you help me install firefox in kubuntu 7.04?
[06:08] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:08] <Dr_willis> there ya go.
[06:08] <Jucato> Noob12356266: K Menu -> Add/Remove programs. search for Firefox
[06:09] <Noob12356266> tried the first one: by dr.willis - E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Did you do what it said?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.?
[06:10] <Noob12356266> ok about to thanks
[06:12] <spcKDE> best prog for showing temp cpu hdd etc on destop or taskbar?
[06:13] <Dr_willis> !best
[06:13] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Thers karamba applets that can do that.. or conky, or i think some kde panel applets as well
[06:14] <AmyRose> I know I may be pointed to #ubuntu for this, but does anyone else have problems with Thunderbird freezing after about 10 minutes?
[06:14] <spcKDE> suggested?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> Depends on what you want. I HATE desktop 'applets' :)
[06:14] <Dr_willis> i do use conky.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> gkrellm also has modules that can show that info.
[06:15] <ubuntu> Dr. Willis....what program do I need to reformat the hard drive
[06:15] <Dr_willis> you may need to install lm-sensors paclages to get the heat info.
[06:15] <spcKDE> jp
[06:15] <spcKDE> tnx
[06:15] <Noob12356266> woopee it worked!
[06:15] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,   you mean 'repartition' to add new partitions? or just format a single partition?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  gparted/qtparted is proberly your best bet for your partioning/disk needs.
[06:15] <ubuntu> I'm running off my CD, because it's not wanting to install properly
[06:17] <jickles> im having problems accessing my ntfs drive in kubuntu through dolphin, no problems in ubuntu however
[06:18] <Dr_willis> try accessing it through the shell?
[06:18] <rdvon> :(
[06:18] <rdvon> Amarok stopped working.
[06:18] <rdvon> after I added a mysql database...
[06:18] <rdvon> and deleted a style.
[06:19] <rdvon> It's been crashing alot also.
[06:19] <rdvon> is it cuz i'm using ubuntu?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> rdvon,  i doubt it.
[06:19] <rdvon> dude.
[06:19] <rdvon> It's not working. :(
[06:19] <Dr_willis> i mix up kuubntu+ubuntu and xubuntu and mythbuntu and... others.. all the time
[06:19] <rdvon> It was a theory..
[06:20] <Dr_willis> test #1 - make a new user. see if the stuff works for them.
[06:20] <rdvon> but what could the problem be, It's not showing anything in the terminal.
[06:20] <Dr_willis> if it does work right for them. then some how you may have some .kde config 'issues'
[06:20] <rdvon> A new user. :(
[06:20] <Dr_willis> gotta start trouble shooting somewhere.
[06:20] <ubuntu> Dr. Willis:  I'm having an issue installing Kubuntu, it's having issues at about 29%
[06:20] <rdvon> :<
[06:20] <Dr_willis> I dont see how mysql would affect amarok at all.
[06:20] <ubuntu> I was thinking maybe if I reformat everything, I can start again, and it might work
[06:20] <rdvon> wat does mysql do anyways?
[06:21] <rdvon> oh, and is there anyway to start from "scratch" on amarok?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  you can try. use gparted to delete the existing linux partitions, so they are unallocated. You may have better luck using the alternative installer cd.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> rdvon,  remove the .kde/SOMTHING settings :)
[06:21] <rdvon> wooh
[06:21] <rdvon> thx
[06:21] <ubuntu> I can't, because I have no way to download it and burn it to disk
[06:21] <Dr_willis> rdvon,  mysql is a database
[06:21] <rdvon> I know.
[06:21] <rdvon> I use them.
[06:21] <rdvon> alot.
[06:21] <rdvon> but what does amarok do with them.
[06:22] <rdvon> store my music?
[06:22] <rdvon> that'd be cool...
[06:22] <rdvon> :D
[06:22] <Dr_willis> rdvon,  ive neverheard of amarok messing with mysql at all..
[06:22] <Dr_willis> unless it uses it to some how keep played/other info on the files
[06:22]  * Dr_willis launches amarok
[06:23] <rdvon> Dr_willis: all I see in .kde is a cache file, socket file, tmp file, and a share file.
[06:23] <rdvon> I mean folder.
[06:23] <rdvon> :\
[06:23] <rdvon> ooh
[06:23] <rdvon> I found config
[06:23] <rdvon> nvm
[06:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:23] <rdvon> DELETED
[06:23] <darkness> maybe amarok just hanged and it didnt die properly
[06:24] <rdvon> it's still not running...
[06:24] <rdvon> I restarted the pc
[06:24] <genii> Dr_willis: You're one of the few I see both here and in #ubuntu LOL
[06:24] <darkness> yes, but even so the sessions is saved
[06:24] <darkness> that happened to me once with kaffeine
[06:24] <genii> !helpersnack | Dr_willis
[06:24] <ubotu> Dr_willis: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[06:24] <rdvon> how do i stop the process.
[06:24] <Dr_willis> genii,  :) Yep.. #ubuntu is a bit... weird tonight
[06:24] <genii> Dr_willis: marko is driving me nuts
[06:24] <rdvon> I hate that channel.. I go here for help ;)
[06:25] <Dr_willis> genii,  yep. he really does sound a bit... well.... i wont say
[06:25] <rdvon> so how do i stop amarok?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> rdvon,  close the program?
[06:25] <rdvon> It's not showing up anywhere.
[06:25] <rdvon> how do i stop the *process*
[06:25] <rdvon> ;)
[06:25] <Dr_willis> look at your system tray/icons.
[06:25] <rdvon> ....
[06:25] <Dr_willis> it minimizes/closes there.
[06:25] <rdvon> I know.
[06:26] <rdvon> >.>
[06:26] <angel> with kill
[06:26] <darkness> what is the ksysguard equivalent in ubuntu
[06:26] <Dr_willis> if its some how crashed. use the shell, and kill it based onits pid
[06:26] <Dr_willis> ps ax | grep amarok
[06:26] <Dr_willis> then kill PID
[06:26] <rdvon> how do i find it's pid again?
[06:27] <rdvon> Pid
[06:27] <rdvon> plz
[06:27] <Dr_willis> i just showed you. :)
[06:27] <angel> in console first-- top     find name amarokapp   and see your pid
[06:27] <Dr_willis> ps ax | grep amarok
[06:27] <rdvon> oh
[06:27] <rdvon> that thing.
[06:27] <genii> rdvon: PID is the number on the left
[06:28] <angel> yes rdvon  is a number
[06:28] <se7en_> Dr_willis: how do you edit conky setting
[06:28] <rdvon> I killed 'em good.
[06:28] <rdvon> :D
[06:28] <Dr_willis> se7en_,  with a text editor. :) and a good through read of the conky website/docs on whats in the config.
[06:28] <rdvon> wewt!
[06:28] <Dr_willis> se7en_,  and lots and lots of patience and twiddling
[06:29] <se7en_> Dr_willis: couldn't find official web site
[06:29] <Dr_willis> se7en_,  look some more? :)
[06:29] <Dr_willis> http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[06:30] <Dr_willis> first hit on google for 'conky' :)
[06:30] <rdvon> soo... what does amarok do with the mysql db?
[06:30] <flaccid> uses it for library iirc
[06:30] <rdvon> hmm...
[06:31] <angel> nose
[06:31] <Dr_willis> rdvon,  i cant even see where it uses mysql. :) i did discover some mood setting in amarok.
[06:31] <ubuntu>  dr. willis...I'm going to try and reinstall, but I don't think it'll work
[06:31] <ubuntu> I'll relay the error message shortly
[06:31] <rdvon> flaccid: you've confused me more, please go on.
[06:31] <Dr_willis> rdvon,  wehere did ya notice any mysql info on it?
[06:32] <Dr_willis> i think hes saying it keeps the music library information  database with mysql
[06:32] <rdvon> Dr_willis: either on first installation on amarok or in the settings > configure amarok > collection tab
[06:32] <darkness> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MySQL_HowTo
[06:33] <darkness> first hit on google with "amarok mysql"
[06:33] <flaccid> or you can use sqlite
[06:33] <Dr_willis> yea im using the default which is sqlite it seems
[06:33] <ubuntu> Dr_willis:  Errno 5 Input/output error
[06:33] <Dr_willis> I guess with a HUGE library you may want to mess witht he others.
[06:33] <flaccid> i would probably only use mysql if you want/need your library in a more popular rdbms
[06:34] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  that sounds like the cd may be burnt wrongly/bad/downloaded bad.
[06:34] <ubuntu> well, I'm screwed now
[06:34] <ubuntu> I don't have a way to download it again
[06:34] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  a lot of the linux magazines at the bookstores have ubuntu included on disk.
[06:35] <ubuntu> too late for that tonight :(
[06:35] <Dr_willis> or find a local user group or other linux users and bum a cd from them.
[06:35] <ubuntu> 10:30 here
[06:35] <Dr_willis> ive given away dozens of the cd's :)
[06:35] <rdvon> oooh
[06:35] <rdvon> I know a great program if your stuck on windows... since it doesn't come with an iso burner....
[06:36] <ubuntu> no, haven't had windows in a couple years
[06:36] <Dr_willis> and you dont have a few stacks of Linux cd's laying around? :0
[06:36] <ubuntu> I guess it's too much to ask that you're in San Diego, Dr. Willis?
[06:36] <darkness> or try shipit and wait 4 to 6 weeks :)
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Imust have 200+ old cd's laying about.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> In Indiana. :)
[06:37] <ubuntu> that does me no good....it's 30 hour drive to my home in Missouri, and Indianapolis is another 7 past that
[06:38] <rdvon> I created lots of nice useless discs when figuring out which program to use to burn cds...
[06:38] <rdvon> I'm too cheap to *pay* for things. :D
[06:38] <Dr_willis> rdvon,  lots of disks with 'whatever.iso' on them :)
[06:38] <angel> k3b
[06:38] <flaccid> i just can't wait for kde4 on windows final
[06:39] <Dr_willis> http://shop.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart
[06:39] <ubuntu> brb
[06:39] <rdvon> yay@
[06:39] <Dr_willis> I used cheapbytes a lot ages ago. :)
[06:39] <rdvon> now i can listen to music :)
[06:39] <angel> :)
[06:39] <rdvon> Finally.
[06:39] <flaccid> !codecs
[06:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:40] <flaccid> codecs in gutsy?
[06:40] <rdvon> I just typed in "xine" in synaptic.. checked pretty much everything.
[06:40] <rdvon> ;)
[06:40] <flaccid> oh, if i just want the nonfree codecs?
[06:40] <darkness> rdvon: the same thing happened to me with kaffeine... and i didn't figure it out for about a month
[06:41] <rdvon> darkness: thanks for your help
[06:41] <rdvon> Now for some fun scripts!
[06:42] <rdvon> omg! does copy cover write the album art to the id3 tag!?
[06:42] <darkness> you are welcome
[06:43] <rdvon> Scripts, the reason why I use amarok ;)
[06:44] <Dr_willis> night all.
[06:44] <angel> scripts of lyric is the better :)
[06:44] <rdvon> Amarok screensaver!
[06:45] <angel> :) lyric
[06:45] <rdvon> Lyric?
[06:45] <darkness> lyrc
[06:45] <rdvon> i'm trying amalyp
[06:45] <rdvon> it's like karaoke :D
[06:45] <Noob12356266> hi guys - whenever i try to use Adept Manager and try to install something the 'Apply changes" Button is grayed out. Therefore I can't install anything. I'm using 7.04
[06:45] <angel> yes
[06:45] <angel> jejeje
[06:46] <darkness> jejeje? you are latin aren't you
[06:46] <rdvon> jajajajajaja
[06:46] <angel> soy de mexico
[06:46] <rdvon> i am from mexico!
[06:46] <rdvon> :D
[06:46] <darkness> i'm in mexico right now
[06:46] <rdvon> i'm not.
[06:46] <darkness> but i'm not mexican
[06:46] <rdvon> me neither.
[06:47] <angel> :D
[06:47] <Noob12356266> when i start adept manager it says: You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software) because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application, apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[06:48] <rdvon> noob: you need to turn off all other programs that are using the package database.
[06:48] <angel> good night  goin a sleep
[06:48] <angel> n_n ZzZZZzZzZ
[06:48] <darkness> buenas noches
[06:48] <Noob12356266> i think all of them are off
[06:48] <angel> GRACIAS !!!!
[06:48] <darkness> try
[06:48] <angel> BYE
[06:48] <rdvon> try restarting your pc then.
[06:48] <darkness> dpkg --configure -a
[06:49] <Noob12356266> tried those (both) dpkg and the restart thing
[06:49] <rdvon> hmm...
[06:49] <rdvon> how are you running it?
[06:49] <darkness> maybe the same thing with amarok rdvon
[06:50] <rdvon> I wouldn't think so.
[06:50] <Noob12356266> K-Menu>System>Adept Manager
[06:50] <rdvon> could be root privileges.
[06:50] <rdvon> hmm...
[06:50] <rdvon> yeah
[06:50] <rdvon> i think your right darkness.
[06:50] <rdvon> thought you were talking about the config files.
[06:50] <rdvon> it's probably running a background process..
[06:51] <rdvon> ;)
[06:51] <Kijutsu> Has anyone played with the new KDE 4 Beta?
[06:51] <Noob12356266> okkk...what should i do next?
[06:52] <jickles> is it possible to reposition windows using the keyboard?
[06:52] <darkness> Noob12356266 try       ps ax | grep adept
[06:52] <Noob12356266> ok but before i do may i know what its going to do?
[06:52] <xt|away> hey all
[06:52] <xt|away> i need help
[06:53] <rdvon> noob: it's going to list all the processes adept is running >.>
[06:53] <Jucato> jickles: Alt+F3
[06:53] <Noob12356266> ok
[06:53] <xt|away> i appear to have broken something but i don't know what or how
[06:53] <Noob12356266> like this?
[06:53] <Noob12356266>  9952 ?        S      0:02 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager
[06:53] <Noob12356266>  9964 ?        Ss     0:00 sh -c adept_manager
[06:53] <Noob12356266>  9965 ?        S      1:57 adept_manager
[06:53] <Noob12356266> 10077 pts/6    S+     0:00 grep adept
[06:53] <darkness> yes
[06:54] <rdvon> Yeah.
[06:54] <xt|away> i had everything working fine, and then rebooted into windows xp to play some games
[06:54] <rdvon> do you see the numbers to the left?
[06:54] <rdvon> type "kill" then the number.
[06:54] <Noob12356266> 4 and 5 digits yes
[06:54] <xt|away> booted back into kubuntu and all my ntfs partitions are empty
[06:54] <Noob12356266> umm all of them?
[06:54] <rdvon> Yeah... that's what I did...
[06:55] <rdvon> ;)
[06:55] <darkness> with the 9952, 9964 and 9965
[06:55] <rdvon> he knows more.
[06:55] <rdvon> listen to him ;(
[06:55] <jickles> Jucato, on windows I use a great program which allows me to send windows to my other monitor, resize windows to 1/3rd, half, 2/3rds of the screen, maximise windows, etc using ctrl-alt-(numpad key)... Do you know of a similar application for kubuntu?
[06:55] <rdvon> where would I install the kde bindings for python?
[06:55] <xt|away> any idea what's gone wrong?
[06:56] <Jucato> jickles: sorry no
[06:56] <rdvon> ooh that's happened to me before!
[06:56] <Noob12356266> ok they're dead - adept manager disappeared
[06:56] <rdvon> now restart it.
[06:57] <darkness> xt|away: that happens when you dont shutdown windows properly
[06:57] <surgy> im trying to compile qpadjoy from source and this is my output; http://pastebin.com/m3829d46 i have all the latest qt and qt headers can someone help plz?
[06:57] <xt|away> darkness: so if i reboot into windows and then quit it properly it'll all be sorted
[06:57] <xt|away> ?
[06:57] <darkness> yes
[06:58] <xt|away> excellent, thanks
[06:59] <Noob12356266> ok i restarted it and this msg: You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[06:59] <jickles> Jucato, do you think it would be possible to create such an application?
[07:00] <surgy> anyone?
[07:00] <Jucato> jickles: yeah. just don't ask me how :)
[07:00] <jickles> ok :>
[07:00] <darkness> noob: what does ps ax | grep adept show now
[07:00] <nano_> sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx
[07:00] <Noob12356266> 10090 ?        S      0:01 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager
[07:00] <Noob12356266> 10103 ?        Ss     0:00 sh -c adept_manager
[07:00] <Noob12356266> 10104 ?        S      0:09 adept_manager
[07:00] <Noob12356266> 10138 pts/6    R+     0:00 grep adept
[07:00] <Noob12356266> * i just bloody killed them all now
[07:01] <darkness> did you use sudo when killing them?
[07:02] <flaccid> sudo kill -9 10090
[07:02] <Noob12356266> on two of them - i just restarted adept man and got the same msg:
[07:02] <Noob12356266> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[07:02] <flaccid> do that on each..
[07:03] <darkness> noob: are you on kubuntu?
[07:03] <xt|away> victory is mine!
[07:03] <xt|away> by which i mean yours!
[07:03] <Noob12356266> darkness: yes
[07:03] <Noob12356266> dan@kubuntu1:~$ ps ax | grep adept
[07:03] <Noob12356266> 10154 ?        S      0:01 kdesu -u root -c adept_manager
[07:03] <Noob12356266> 10167 ?        Ss     0:00 sh -c adept_manager
[07:03] <Noob12356266> 10168 ?        S      0:06 adept_manager
[07:03] <Noob12356266> 10192 pts/6    R+     0:00 grep adept
[07:03] <Noob12356266> dan@kubuntu1:~$ sudo kill 10154
[07:03] <Noob12356266> dan@kubuntu1:~$ sudo kill 10167
[07:03] <Noob12356266> dan@kubuntu1:~$ sudo kill 10168
[07:03] <Noob12356266> dan@kubuntu1:~$ sudo kill 10192
[07:04] <Noob12356266> dan@kubuntu1:~$ ps ax | grep adept
[07:04] <Noob12356266> 10203 pts/6    R+     0:00 grep adept
[07:04] <Noob12356266> dan@kubuntu1:~$
[07:04] <flaccid> sweet
[07:04] <elio__> Hi!
[07:04] <flaccid> next time use a pastebin :)
[07:04] <flaccid> you might also need !adeptfix if lock is still present
[07:04] <dnbm> i want to add themes to my kubuntu 7 desktop. kde-look themes does not work
[07:05] <darkness> noob: did it work now?
[07:06] <Noob12356266> trying
[07:06] <Noob12356266> pastebin?
[07:06] <flaccid> !pastebin | Noob12356266
[07:06] <ubotu> Noob12356266: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:07] <Noob12356266> ok thanks - still not working
[07:07] <darkness> you tried reeboting?
[07:07] <flaccid> !doesntwork
[07:07] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[07:08] <darkness> hahaha
[07:08] <Noob12356266> lol ok: got the same msg as above
[07:08] <darkness> even after reeboting?
[07:09] <flaccid> did you do
[07:09] <flaccid> !adeptfix
[07:09] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[07:09] <Noob12356266> not yet rebooted will try adeptfix thing
[07:09] <dnbm> can anybody help me with kde-look themes please?
[07:10] <flaccid> !themes
[07:10] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:10] <flaccid> also see #kde
[07:10] <dnbm> thank you flaccid
[07:10] <flaccid> np
[07:12] <dnbm> !changethemes
[07:12] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[07:12] <DM|> whats the KDE equivilent to gparted
[07:12] <darkness> qtparted
[07:14] <Noob12356266> IT WORKED!
[07:14] <darkness> great!
[07:15] <Noob12356266> adeptfix thing did it - thanks all - thats exactly what happened - first time i tried to use adept manager to install ff2 it crashed - now it works - again thanks all for your valiant efforts
[07:17] <darkness> you are welcome
[07:17] <dnbm> checking for C compiler default output file name...
[07:17] <dnbm> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:17] <dnbm> what does this mean please?
[07:19] <cat-a> how do i set up a progam to start up from .kde/Autostart/
[07:20] <darkness> i'm not sure if you could put a symlink there
[07:20] <darkness> but yo could create a small script
[07:21] <cat-a> ln /usr/bin/whateverprogram ???
[07:21] <surgy> i need help with qjoypad
[07:22] <surgy> compiling gives me qt errors, i can still use the compiled program after words but it seams to freeze everything as though nothing will load until i close qjoypad
[07:23] <darkness> cat-a: in the script?
[07:23] <darkness> or do you mean creating a symlink
[07:24] <surgy> ?
[07:25] <cat-a> no i just set a ln pointing to the program darkness
[07:25] <darkness> sorry surgy, i don't know about qt developing
[07:26] <darkness> good night everybody
[07:27] <cat-a> should work darkness but i don''t want to try now because i have a uptime of 99 days and 21h :)
[07:40] <oupa> I have installed KDE4RC1 but get a broken package when installing kdm-kde4. Any ideas?
[07:49] <surgy> can someone help me figure out why qjoypad is slowing my computer down so badly?
[08:29] <zorglu> q. when i create a .desktop to launch an application under kubuntu edgy, i got the 'busy bouncing icon' bouncing for a while (like 10sec) *after* the application is launched and running. how can i prevent this ?
[08:30] <test_> vista best OS
[08:30] <test_> kubuntu ubuntu bad :|
[08:30] <test_> gotune koyim ubuntu kubuntunun
[08:30] <zorglu> hehe test_ you do seem like a troll :)
[08:30] <test_> zorlu ne diyon yavrum
[08:31] <test_> zokayim kubuntuya
[08:31] <test_> bok gibi bisey
[08:31] <Microsofties> oh dear....
[08:31] <test_> Microsofties: :) mucx
[08:32] <test_> conqueror web browser  puhahahaha
[08:32] <jussi01> !ops
[08:32] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[08:33] <test_> msn client ? kubuntu
[08:34] <zorglu> test_: you have been reported to the local operators
[08:35] <zorglu> meanwhile my question remains :)
[08:36] <jussi01> zorglu: system settings -> keyboard and mouse -> untick visual feedback on activation
[08:36] <test_> format  disk kubuntu part. :) install vista ultimate :)
[08:36] <test_> bye bye kubuntu :|
[08:36] <jussi01> test_: please dont.
[08:36] <test_> ie7, msn, explorer,
[08:37] <jussi01> !ops | test_ is trolling
[08:37] <ubotu> test_ is trolling: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[08:37] <zorglu> jussi01: looking but will that remove all visual feedback ?
[08:37] <jussi01> sigh
[08:37] <jussi01> zorglu: yeah
[08:38] <zorglu> jussi01: well i just want it to stop in the particular case of when the apps is launched when launching an external apps :)
[08:38] <jussi01> zorglu: Im not sure you can do thet.
[08:38] <zorglu> jussi01: ok thanks anyway :)
[08:39] <jussi01> zorglu:  Im sorry I cant help more
[08:40] <zorglu> that's cool :)
[08:40] <nalioth> hi zorglu
[08:40] <zorglu> nalioth: hi, this was about test_ trolling. not evil guy. but trolling a bit
[08:41] <SatManUK> how can i change adapt manager to something else - as it keeps sigterming on me?
[08:41] <zorglu> jussi01 saw it too :)
[08:41] <jussi01> SatManUK: sudo aptitude install synaptic
[08:43] <SatManUK> how do i remove the lock on : Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:43] <bazhang> !aptfix | SatManUK
[08:43] <ubotu> SatManUK: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[08:44] <SatManUK> thanks bazhang
[08:44] <SatManUK> again..
[08:45] <bazhang> SatManUK: no worries :}
[08:45] <SatManUK> !ndiswrapper
[08:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:46] <SatManUK> thats the next problem to fix after i release her package database
[08:46] <jussi01> SatManUK: have fun...
[08:46] <SatManUK> im getting screamed at left right and centre for this :P
[08:47] <ere4si> !earplugs
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about earplugs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <jussi01> SatManUK: hehe... family members???
[08:47] <needles> !kamefu
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kamefu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <SatManUK> "why must you use linux, this is not a good example of linux"
[08:47] <SatManUK> jussi01: gf..
[08:48] <SatManUK> 10,000 km away in Malaysia :P
[08:48] <jussi01> !info kamefu | needles
[08:48] <ubotu> needles: kamefu: KDE All Machine Emulator Frontend for Unix - binary files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 78 kB, installed size 296 kB
[08:48] <jussi01> SatManUK: ahhh
[08:49] <SatManUK> she just gone offline - i think she give up already and run back to windows :(
[08:49] <SatManUK> she wouldn't give me chance to resolve her queries one by one..
[08:49] <needles> does anyone know the kamefu homepage?
[08:49] <needles> i cant find a wiki
[08:50] <SatManUK> she was getting sigterm errors in kopete and adapt
[08:50] <SatManUK> i know only that she is running a fujistsu laptop
[08:50] <Noob12356266> heya all kan somewun tell me how to find my second hard disk?
[08:50] <jussi01> needles:  http://kamefu.pwsp.net/
[08:51] <needles> jussi01: i checked there, but it seems to be non active
[08:51] <needles> its somewhat of a blank page
[08:51] <jussi01> needles: thats what is listed in the package... it may be a dead project
[08:51] <needles> jussi01: yeah
[08:51] <needles> im trying to figure out if it is what i think it is
[08:51] <needles> will it play snes roms?
[08:52] <jussi01> needles: umm, dont know - but there are plenty of other snes emulators out there
[08:52] <needles> yeah
[08:52] <jussi01> !info zsnes
[08:52] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.510-1 (gutsy), package size 878 kB, installed size 4060 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:53] <bazhang> zsnes is better needles
[08:53] <needles> bazhang: it is
[08:53] <needles> does it play nintendo 64 roms?
[08:53] <needles> whats a good n64 emu for linux
[08:53] <needles> thats another part of the deal
[08:53] <bazhang> not sure there needles
[08:55] <jussi01> needles: I dont think there is one
[08:55] <needles> i guess i can wine one
[08:55] <jussi01> not in the repos anyway - i would search google, maybe there is something out there
[08:56] <needles> jussi01: yeah, for sure
[08:56] <jussi01> needles: actually kamefu will do 64
[08:56] <needles> this has problemed someone before me
[08:57] <jussi01> needles: have you tred kamefu?
[08:58] <needles> jussi01: im giving it a spin right now
[08:58] <needles> its not really recognizing my n64 roms
[08:58] <jussi01> oh
[08:59] <_titanix88> hey who is using titanix88?
[08:59] <_titanix88> hey who is using titanix88?
[08:59] <jussi01> _titanix88: I dont know, but you can ghost it if it is registered
[08:59] <needles> jussi01: its a frontend
[08:59] <needles> not an actual emu
[08:59] <needles> didnt read that part
[09:00] <needles> i*
[09:00] <jussi01> _titanix88: ie. /ns ghost username password
[09:00] <_titanix88> i am the registered user!
[09:01] <jussi01> _titanix88: yeah, just give that command and it will die
[09:01] <jussi01> substituting the parts you need to of course
[09:04] <_titanix88> jussi thnx!it worked.
[09:04] <jussi01> _titanix88: now just change your nick!
[09:04] <_titanix88> how ?
[09:05] <jussi01>  /nick newnickname
[09:08] <titanix88> again thnx, jussi01
[09:08] <jussi01> :)
[09:17] <titanix88> any game related channel?
[09:18] <titanix88> i mean linux games.
[09:18] <titanix88> i mean linux games.
[09:18] <bazhang> !games
[09:18] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:19] <titanix88> irc channel
[09:19] <bazhang> !irc
[09:19] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[09:23] <fastfwd> Would anyone be able to tell me why, after installing Kubuntu and running the update manager, I keep getting the message that there is a version-upgrade available while I'm already running 7.10?
[09:23] <bazhang> is that bug still around? strange
[09:24] <jussi01> fastfwd: hust try upgrade and it should go away
[09:24] <fastfwd> So it's a known bug?
[09:24] <jussi01> yes
[09:24] <fastfwd> I tried just upgrading, but if stops somewhere in the middle and refuses to do anything after that
[09:24] <fastfwd> if=it
[09:25] <fastfwd> Can you point me to some documentation about this?
[09:25] <jussi01> fastfwd: go search on Launchpad.net
[09:25] <jussi01> fastfwd: there is a bug there somewhere
[09:31] <SatManUK> ok were back online (Bad Weather in Malaysia caused internet failure)
[09:31] <SatManUK> running this command now  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:41] <JackWinter> hiya.  is there a way to boost the priority of a program running in wine?  i have an audio application, that suffers when i do alot in other applications. running gutsy with the rt kernel if relevant.
[09:45] <ere4si> !nice
[09:45] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:46] <thomax_> homax
[09:51] <Tm_T> JackWinter: hi
[09:54] <JackWinter> hi tm_t
[09:54] <Tm_T> !away > JackWinter
[09:55] <SatManUK> how do i manually install a package - telling the package manager where to find the dependent file?
[09:55] <SatManUK> ie install game and game-data
[09:55] <JackWinter> gotta admit i'm a noob. i tried "nice -n -20 wine etc" & get a "nice: cannot set niceness: Permission denied"
[09:56] <ere4si> use sudo first
[09:56] <ere4si> e.g. sudo (command)
[09:56] <JackWinter> ok, but i don't wanna run my wine application as su?
[09:57] <JackWinter> ok, i'll man sudo aswell ;-)
[09:57] <ere4si> sudo is used only for the command that follows it
[09:57] <JackWinter> ah, cool.  didn't know that.
[09:58] <ere4si> sudo -s    is the command to make you root  - if you will pardon the expression :)
[10:01] <JackWinter> i did "sudo nice -n -20 wine reaper.exe", but reaper is running as root?
[10:04] <ere4si> I don't do wine - apologies - don't know where to lead you for that
[10:04] <Jucato> #winehq of course :)
[10:07] <ere4si> if I did wine I would have known that `_`
[10:07] <JackWinter> i suppose that "sudo nice -n -20 wine" gets wine running as su, so whatever application wine runs will run the same
[10:07] <JackWinter> no apologies needed, thanksful for all help!
[10:08] <ere4si> sudo will let you have admin permission - it doesn't let a prog run as root
[10:08] <titanix88> clearly most ubuntu users are north american!hmm...
[10:09] <ere4si> sudo nice  means let me have permission to set the priority for a program
[10:09] <JackWinter> when i check reaper.exe in system guard, it reports reaper running as root login?
[10:09] <ere4si> #winehq is your best bet then
[10:09] <bazhang> not so titanix88
[10:10] <JackWinter> ok, thanks guys!
[10:10] <ere4si> thought this was #kubuntu
[10:11] <bazhang> many asian users of kubuntu/ubuntu but this is way #offtopic
[10:11] <titanix88> bazhang: i find #kubuntu inactive when it is midnight at north america.
[10:12] <bazhang> titanix88: not inactive--just your questions are too difficult :}
[10:12] <titanix88> ok ok off it goes...
[10:13] <titanix88> lol :d khek khek khek
[10:15] <titanix88> guys i cant wait for kde4!:)
[10:15] <titanix88> guys i cant wait for kde4!:)
[10:16] <bazhang> get the live cd now then
[10:16] <titanix88> live cdv
[10:19] <_Carlo_> hi, i'm having problem installing kde4 rc1, libclucene0 conflict with libclucene0ldbl
[10:20] <emilsedgh> !brokenkde4
[10:20] <ubotu> If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[10:22] <WaltzingAlong> !brokenkde4 | _Carlo_
[10:22] <ubotu> _Carlo_: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[10:23] <_Carlo_> i've already remove everithing, btw i'm using herdy maybe that's the problem
[10:24] <JackWinter> sorry guys no answer in winehq.  i tried "sudo nice -n -20 konsole", this makes konsole run as a su?
[10:26] <WaltzingAlong> JackWinter: if you could start the process of wine then with sudo change the niceness with renice        (and the answer to your question seems to be yes)
[10:27] <WaltzingAlong> _Carlo_: this is not (yet) a support channel for kubuntu 8.04
[10:29] <JackWinter> ok, renice would work.  the only problem is i don't know how to write a script to parse the pid.  i'll see if i can learn ;-)
[10:30] <_Carlo_> WaltzingAlong: yeah i know, btw i've resolved specifying to install strigi/clucene from ppa and not herdy repository
[10:33] <SatManUK> is there a native driver for an Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5413 802.11abg NIC
[10:34] <SatManUK> my gf doesn't have the windows driver and i can't find it in driver guide..
[10:36] <SatManUK> !ndiswrapper
[10:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:41] <ere4si> SatManUK: they should have the driver on there site
[10:42] <SatManUK> i can't find any dirvers on their site at all..
[10:42] <SatManUK> no technical - only pdf and docs..
[10:42] <SatManUK> i thought about fujitsu website
[10:43] <SatManUK> but she doesn't have the model number of the laptop
[10:43] <ere4si> SatManUK: I have luck with google and typing e.g. atheros wireless in ubuntu - usually find a howto :)
[10:45] <WaltzingAlong> SatManUK: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Devices
[10:45] <acemo> the new packages of kde4 are compatible with the old packages? as in.. if i update them i wont screw up like how it would screw up when u go from beta3 to rc1?
[10:45] <Tm_T> acemo: no, you have to remove old packages first
[10:46] <Tm_T> acemo: see http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[10:46] <acemo> Tm_T: i got rc1 already
[10:46] <Tm_T> yes yes
[10:46] <acemo> Tm_T: but there are new updates for it
[10:46] <Tm_T> then update :)
[10:47] <acemo> Tm_T: kinda scared to screw it up again =P
[10:47] <Tm_T> it's still same version
[10:47] <acemo> Tm_T: alrighty
[10:47] <WaltzingAlong> acemo: you should remove kde4beta3 before installing the kde4rc1
[10:47] <WaltzingAlong> !brokenkde4  > acemo
[10:48] <acemo> WaltzingAlong: i know.. !brokenkde4 got made after i screwed up the 1st time ;)
[10:48] <Tm_T> meh
[10:48] <WaltzingAlong> oh :D
[10:48] <Tm_T> WaltzingAlong: jumpy :)
[10:49] <Tm_T> moi pennola
[10:49] <pennola> moi vaan :)
[10:49] <pag> !fi | pennola
[10:49] <ubotu> pennola: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[10:50] <Tm_T> pag: ouch
[10:50] <pennola> thanks for info ;)
[10:50] <pag> Tm_T, sorry. didn't mean to hurt you ;P
[10:50] <pennola> many alternatives
[10:50] <Tm_T> yup
[10:51] <pennola> ja mitä merkitystä jos puhuu suomeksikin?
[10:51] <pag> pennola, please.. this is English only channel.
[10:51] <pennola> eller på svenska, det där språket är ju vårt andra officielt språk :)
[10:51] <pennola> okay okay
[10:51] <Hirvinen> pennola: tuhma
[10:51] <Hirvinen> (sorry)
[10:59] <SatManUK> im downloading madwifi - hopefully it should do the job
[11:00] <sandsmark> anyone know when the kde4 rc1 packages will come to gutsy-backports?
[11:01] <Tm_T> when ready
[11:01] <sandsmark> :P
[11:01] <Tm_T> that said, it should no more than few days
[11:01] <Riddell> rather when the buildds bother
[11:01] <sandsmark> ok
[11:01] <Tm_T> Riddell: that's what I meant
[11:01] <sandsmark> but the builds in the ppa are usable?
[11:01] <Tm_T> yes
[11:01] <Riddell> yes, ppa is fine
[11:03] <black884> hey
[11:03] <pag> !hi | black884
[11:03] <ubotu> black884: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:04] <ScorpKing> hi guys! :) is there a way to save flash player webpages to the disk? where is the cache for konqueror?
[11:10] <jickles> how do I use katapult?
[11:11] <emilsedgh> jickles: press alt+space
[11:11] <Tm_T> alt+space -> write app
[11:11] <jickles> emilsedgh, doesn't seem to do anything
[11:11] <emilsedgh> jickles: then type the first characters of the name of the programs you want to launch, or the song you want to listen
[11:12] <jickles> it brings up the application menu, 'Advanced', 'To Desktop' etc
[11:13] <jickles>  
[11:14] <jickles> hmm, it does seem to be running
[11:15] <jickles> but it's not catching the alt-space
[11:18] <jickles> emilsedgh, is it supposed to just run in the background?
[11:19] <emilsedgh> jickles: yes, do this, run katapult, it will tell you that what is its shortcut
[11:19] <loguser1> how can i know what ports are forwarded by the router. (iam a client) cant reach server
[11:20] <jickles> jickles, ah ok I fixed it, it was because I had kde set to 'windows feel' which maps alt-space to show application menu
[11:20] <jickles> oops, I mean emilsedgh
[11:20] <emilsedgh> oh
[11:20] <emilsedgh> jickles: so you should change katapults shortcut
[11:21] <jickles> it's ok
[11:21] <jickles> I just removed the other shortcut
[11:21] <jickles> hmm, katapult seems okay, I prefer the google desktop interface though really where you get a list of items
[11:22] <loguser1> any one?
[11:25] <grul> !ntfs
[11:25] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[11:25] <grul> !ntfs-3g
[11:25] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:25] <ere4si> loguser1: if you have a multiport router and your comps ip address is e.g. 192.168.0.2 then type in the browser - 192.168.0.1  - and that should take you to your router config page - there will be an option there to find the forwarded ports
[11:26] <loguser1> well . its not going to that page. errors of page
[11:27] <WaltzingAlong> loguser1: http://www.portforward.com/
[11:29] <loguser1> ok. how about i make a tunnel of by ssh and eliminate all problems of  ports that are unforwarded.
[11:29] <oupa> !kde4
[11:29] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[11:29] <WaltzingAlong> loguser1: man ssh
[11:30] <loguser1> k
[11:30] <loguser1> but by thinking is right.. ?
[11:31] <loguser1> is it.?
[11:32] <loguser1> by that can i use any port?
[11:32] <ere4si> yep - ssh or make nfs mounts would be my suggestions
[11:33] <loguser1> ere4si:  an i get get a free shh server.. right?
[11:33] <loguser1> nfs mounts. whats that?
[11:35] <arash> Hi, I want to move some filed and folders to my external Hard drive, but I get a error every time it passes by a file with the letters å/ä/ö , how can I override this?
[11:35] <ere4si> ssh server is in synaptic - nfs is an unencrypted file sharing method that is not recommended unless behind a firewall e.g. router
[11:36] <ere4si> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html
[11:36] <ere4si> a howto
[11:40] <loguser1>  where can i see which ports are forwarded when i log in the routers page?
[11:41] <arash> loguser1, eh, u use a DLink?, I do and for me it's in Advanced tab
[11:41] <loguser1> arash:  yeh. where next in advanced tab?
[11:42] <arash> loguser1: virtual server
[11:42] <arash> loguser1: At least that I think is what they mean by 'forwarded'
[11:43] <WaltzingAlong> !info sshfs
[11:43] <WaltzingAlong> also fish:/ and sftp:/ kio-slaves in konqueror
[11:43] <loguser1> theres no virtual server
[11:44] <ubotu> sshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7-2.1 (gutsy), package size 34 kB, installed size 120 kB
[11:44] <arash> loguser1: U got D-Link?
[11:44] <loguser1> ya
[11:45] <arash> hmm, in top row you first select advanded then in lfet row you choose virtual server, actually virtual server is in the top so it get automatically selected
[11:49] <arash> loguser1: did it workf or ya+
[11:49] <arash> ?
[11:50] <loguser1> wait
[11:52] <Grexeo> how do I connect to a hidden WPA-AES network?
[11:53] <loguser1> http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1552/snapshot2pq9.jpg            what to put and where to put
[11:55] <WaltzingAlong> loguser1: what do you want to accomplish in the end? an incoming port is forwarded from the internet to your computer through your router?
[12:02] <WaltzingAlong> !wifi | Grexeo
[12:02] <ubotu> Grexeo: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:06] <[ifr0g]> !java
[12:06] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[12:34] <xt|away> how do you input the ascii characters in kate?
[12:34] <xt|away> on windows i can use alt+xxxx, what's the linux equivalent?
[12:38] <blendtux> i know you can do it in gn0me xt|away
[12:41] <xt|away> is there no way in kde?  it'd be an odd thing to leave out
[12:41] <Jucato> xt|away: http://www.astro.ufl.edu/it/docs/intl-keyboard.html
[12:41] <F3000> Hi! I got such a problem that when I open Restricted Drivers from System settings, it says that "Module Restricted drivers cannot be loaded." "Possible reasons: -Previous KDE-update had an error, that left lone control module. -Computer has old third party module." Trick is, that this computer is few days old. I think that something is missing from the system. Anyone got any idea about what to do?
[12:42] <F3000> *few weeks.
[12:46] <Armakidon> please help
[12:46] <Lynoure> Armakidon: just type your question, and then wait.
[12:46] <iceEra> omg:P
[12:47] <iceEra> how do i check what type i have of kde?
[12:47] <Jucato> iceEra: Help -> About KDE on any KDE app
[12:47] <Armakidon> i'm russian i not speak english
[12:47] <Armakidon> :((((((((((
[12:47] <Jucato> !ru | Armakidon
[12:47] <Jucato> er... where's the bot?
[12:47] <ubotu> Armakidon: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:47] <iceEra> ty :)
[12:47] <Jucato> oh there
[12:48] <xt|away> thanks Jucato, oddly intuitive system
[12:53] <knulfine> !de
[12:53] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:02] <SatManUK> i am trying install madwifi into kubuntu but its giving me errors
[13:02] <SatManUK> do i need to kernel source installed?
[13:02] <SatManUK> and then how to do it?
[13:12] <jickles> hmm, how could I make my titlebar height smaller?
[13:13] <Jucato> same answer jickles :)
[13:19] <WaltzingAlong> SatManUK:  http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu
[13:20] <Shapeshifter> I want to use kdialog in ubuntu for some reason but I get a lot of errors (about alacarte and kio) and a lot of output about OggS-SEEK. What is all this stuff? How can I fix this?
[13:20] <WaltzingAlong> SatManUK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Madwifi
[13:20] <SatManUK> we have installed madwifi-tools
[13:21] <jickles> hmm, the top themes on kde-look.org are for 'beryl emerald'. Is it possible to use those ?
[13:22] <SatManUK> Ubuntu ships madwifi in the restricted component, which is enabled in the default install. Madwifi chipsets should therefore ‘just work’.
[13:22] <SatManUK>  In case you did a manual install, try installing linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) and that’s it.
[13:22] <WaltzingAlong> !find madwifi
[13:22] <ubotu> Found: madwifi-tools
[13:22] <SatManUK> yes installed them..
[13:23] <WaltzingAlong> SatManUK: !pastebin the results of iwconfig
[13:25] <SatManUK> im waiting for her to send them to me now then i will pastbin.ca then
[13:25] <SatManUK> no wireless extensions
[13:26] <harmental> any kde 4 RC1 testers in here?
[13:26] <WaltzingAlong> SatManUK: how about lspci / lsusb is the unit correctly recognized?
[13:26] <WaltzingAlong> harmental: yes using some of kde4rc1
[13:26] <harmental> WaltzingAlong: is it stable?
[13:26] <harmental> did you follow kubuntu howto?
[13:27] <SatManUK> lspci - 08:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5413 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[13:27] <WaltzingAlong> harmental: it is installed and works well on here
[13:28] <harmental> WaltzingAlong: did you follow kubuntu howto?
[13:28] <WaltzingAlong> SatManUK: and sudo modprobe madwifi  seems to work?
[13:28] <WaltzingAlong> harmental: yes
[13:29] <SatManUK> trying it now..
[13:29] <SatManUK> FATAL: Module madwifi not found
[13:30] <SatManUK> we installed madwifi-tools
[13:30] <WaltzingAlong> SatManUK: and linux-restricted-modules ?
[13:31] <harmental> WaltzingAlong: i keep getting
[13:31] <harmental> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net gutsy/ Packages
[13:31] <harmental>   404 Not Found
[13:31] <WaltzingAlong> harmental: while i did follow the instructions apparently you did not?
[13:31] <SatManUK> i just asked her to install that - she wondered off for 1 min i will ask her when she gets back :P
[13:33] <harmental> WaltzingAlong: dohh...i've missed "main"
[13:33] <harmental> sorry
[13:35] <nosrednaekim> haha.... stupid next-gen ipods.... I just zapped my bro's with amarok
[13:35] <WaltzingAlong> harmental: ok so it works now
[13:36] <harmental> WaltzingAlong: yep...so far so good
[13:37] <SatManUK> linux-restricted-modules installed - trying modprobe - madwifi again
[13:39] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: the module name is "ath_pci
[13:39] <SatManUK> so i modprobe ath_pci?
[13:39] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: correct, make sure its not already in thekernel with " lsmod | grep ath"
[13:40] <nosrednaekim> and make sure you aren't running ndiswrapper as well.
[13:40] <SatManUK> i haven't even touched ndiswrapper
[13:40] <SatManUK> we don't have the drivers
[13:40] <nosrednaekim> ok
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:41] <fresh> hey whatz up?
[13:41] <nosrednaekim> hey BluesKaj
[13:41] <BluesKaj> hi nosrednaekim, fresh...coffee!
[13:42] <SatManUK> i think she just needs to give me a shell account on her pc - its easier to do things myself..
[13:42] <fresh> somehey blueskaj
[13:42] <fresh> ;)
[13:42] <SatManUK> ath_rate_sample        14208  1
[13:42] <SatManUK> ath_pci                98336  0
[13:42] <SatManUK> wlan                  206660  4 wlan_scan_sta,ath_rate_sample,ath_pci
[13:42] <SatManUK> ath_hal               192720  3 ath_rate_sample,ath_pci
[13:42] <fresh> i am at the first time with kubuntu in irc-chat
[13:42] <SatManUK> now sudo modprobe ath_pci
[13:43] <fresh> and it looks good!
[13:43] <fresh>  :-)
[13:43] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: no,no need to modprobe.... its in there.
[13:43] <SatManUK> so she should now have wifi access in ip addr?
[13:43] <nosrednaekim> fresh: your first time in IRC,or your first time in kubuntu?
[13:44] <fresh> in irc
[13:44] <A-L-A-R-M> modprobr loads a module and after a reboot it needs to be loaded again or it loads automaticaly ?
[13:45] <fresh> sorry, i can`t speak very well english, because iam german
[13:45] <sandsmark> !de
[13:45] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:45] <SatManUK> i don't speak any english and no need to apologise..
[13:45] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, lotta windows users haven't discovered IRC cuz of the IM apps ... i knoww some that have had windows pcs for 5 yrs and still don't know what irc is> :)
[13:45] <A-L-A-R-M> being a german doesnt stop you from learning english :)
[13:45]  * sandsmark is norwegian, and is kind of getting the hang of this inglirs thing
[13:46] <fresh> ;)
[13:46] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: well, maybe, your chipset may not be supported, pastebin the output of "iwconfig" and "iwlist ath0 scan"
[13:47] <onishidato> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[13:47] <onishidato> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[13:47] <onishidato> Reading package lists... Done
[13:47] <onishidato> Building dependency tree
[13:47] <onishidato> Reading state information... Done
[13:47] <onishidato> Reading extended state information
[13:47] <onishidato> Initializing package states... Done
[13:47] <onishidato> Building tag database... Done
[13:47] <onishidato> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[13:47] <onishidato> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[13:47] <onishidato> i don't know what's wrong with it
[13:47] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix | onishidato
[13:47] <ubotu> onishidato: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:48] <onishidato> onishidato@Annie:~$ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:48] <onishidato>                      USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
[13:48] <onishidato> /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       5374 F.... adept_manager
[13:48] <onishidato> Kill process 5374 ? (y/N)
[13:48] <sandsmark> !pastebin | onishidato
[13:48] <onishidato> what can i do next?
[13:48] <ubotu> onishidato: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[13:48] <onishidato> sorry
[13:49] <sandsmark> onishidato: press "y" and [ENTER]
[13:49] <A-L-A-R-M> it doesnt accept the " "
[13:49] <A-L-A-R-M> what do i do now ?
[13:49] <SatManUK> http://www.pastebin.ca/793651
[13:49] <A-L-A-R-M> wrote also [Enter] doesnt work
[13:50] <mzolisi> hi
[13:50] <mzolisi> all
[13:51] <SatManUK> nosrednaekim: http://www.pastebin.ca/793651
[13:54] <SatManUK> A-L-A-R-M: that means press y
[13:55] <onishidato> how can i write Vietnamese on Kubuntu??
[13:56] <WaltzingAlong> !vietnamese
[13:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vietnamese - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:56] <WaltzingAlong> !scim
[13:56] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[13:58] <xal> hi
[13:58] <xal> i've got Gutsy Gibbon, I installed kde4 packages available in repo,
[13:58] <onishidato> file:///home/onishidato/Desktop/x-unikey-1.0.3b-FC4.i586.rpm
[13:58] <WaltzingAlong> xal: hi
[13:58] <xal> how can I run kde 4 now?
[13:58] <xal> in menu session of kdm there is no entry for kde4
[13:59] <onishidato> how can i rum a rpmfile?
[13:59] <WaltzingAlong> xal: you wish to have a full kde4rc1 session? then follow the rest of the instructions for just that.
[13:59] <WaltzingAlong> xal: you need to make it
[13:59] <onishidato> rpm file
[13:59] <WaltzingAlong> !info alien | onishidato
[13:59] <ubotu> onishidato: alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In component main, is optional. Version 8.68 (gutsy), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[14:00] <harmental> WaltzingAlong: when i do xterm i get
[14:00] <harmental> Xephyr cannot open host display. Is DISPLAY set?
[14:00] <harmental> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :1
[14:00] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: err sorry got distracted... will take a look at that
[14:01] <xal> WaltzingAlong: im not registered :) there's no package kdm-kde4
[14:01] <nosrednaekim> xal: there are instructions on the kubuntu website
[14:01] <xal> ok, thanks, i'll chek it out
[14:02] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: are you sure your wireless switch is on?
[14:02] <SatManUK> what do you mean?
[14:02] <SatManUK> what wireless switch?
[14:02] <WaltzingAlong> SatManUK: the item to which the wireless card is to connect
[14:02] <xal> hmm
[14:03] <SatManUK> its a combined wireless / wired router - the wireless is on..
[14:03] <WaltzingAlong> xal: so according to the instructions, how far did you get?
[14:04] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: err what? what exactly is it? is it connected to your computer via ethernet?
[14:04] <SatManUK> the wireless router?
[14:04] <SatManUK> is a wireless / wired home router
[14:05] <SatManUK> and yes its connected to the gf computer atm via ethernet but she wants to go wireless
[14:06] <WaltzingAlong> SatManUK: ok so disable encryption (for now) then connect  via  sudo iwconfig ath0 essid 'my router' enc off
[14:07] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: and she has a wireless card in the computer?
[14:07] <SatManUK> its on board wireless
[14:07] <nosrednaekim> ok, and do you have the windows drivers for it?
[14:08] <SatManUK> no
[14:08] <SatManUK> she is dissabling security on the router atm
[14:09] <SatManUK> is that with or without ' ' WaltzingAlong
[14:09] <WaltzingAlong> either may work
[14:11] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: removing security won't help...
[14:11] <xal> umm
[14:11] <SatManUK> she doesn't have the windows drivers
[14:11] <xal> WaltzingAlong: i have to erase packages that i installed from repo, yes?
[14:12] <WaltzingAlong> !brokenkde4 | xal, if you had kde4beta3 installed before, yes
[14:12] <ubotu> xal, if you had kde4beta3 installed before, yes: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[14:12] <SatManUK> im confused.. WaltzingAlong you said to dissable security in the wireless router - but nosrednaekim you say it won't work so...
[14:12] <xal> I don't know what i've installed
[14:12] <nosrednaekim> WaltzingAlong: disabling ecryption won't help as the card doesn't even see the AP, its a common problem with atheros cards and their transmit radios
[14:13] <xal> i ran synaptic and installed kde4 packages
[14:13] <xal> nothing else
[14:13] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: I have  atheros card myself, and I know the symptoms of a not-working card better
[14:13] <SatManUK> ok :)
[14:13] <WaltzingAlong> nosrednaekim: but of course. and at the same time i have had cards show results with iwlist scan but still could connect if i specified the ap
[14:13] <osman47> !de
[14:13] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[14:13] <WaltzingAlong> SatManUK: ok follow nosrednaekim's lead
[14:14] <nosrednaekim> WaltzingAlong: yeah me too, but it says "Scaning not supported"
[14:14] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: so, do you have the windows drivers for this card?
[14:14] <xal> WaltzingAlong: it's 3.94 so it's beta 4 yes?
[14:14] <SatManUK> nosrednaekim: where can i find the driver cd - she doesn't even have the model number
[14:15] <SatManUK> no accessable driver cd
[14:15] <SatManUK> its in Kuala Lumpur and she is in Kuching..
[14:15] <SatManUK> 2 hour flight from each other..
[14:15] <SatManUK> so i need to find the driver online..
[14:15] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: well, generally, all atheros cards use the same driver, a generic atheros window driver should work.
[14:15] <SatManUK> would you happen to have one then?
[14:15] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: run "sudo lshw" and see if you can get the model # from that
[14:15] <xal> i'm not interested of downloading hundreds of MBs again, i've got slow connection. how can i run kde4 that i've already installed?
[14:16] <jude> how can i install gnome themes
[14:16] <SatManUK> i know the atheros model number - but not the laptop
[14:16] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: ok, what is the model #
[14:17] <SatManUK> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5413 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[14:17] <ShishKabab> Hello... Could anyone help me with the new KDE4 RC1 packages?
[14:17] <ardchoille> ksal: That tutorial tells you how to run a kde4 session
[14:17] <WaltzingAlong> ShishKabab: other than following the instructions at http://www.kubuntu.org ?
[14:17] <ShishKabab> Yes
[14:17] <ksal> ardchoille: but it's for rc1 and packages for it are installed in some other source.
[14:17] <harmental> WaltzingAlong: when you installed kdm-kde4, which default manager did you select?
[14:17] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: ok, does the machine have windows on it?
[14:18] <SatManUK> yes
[14:18] <jude> how to install new gnome themes?? please help
[14:18] <WaltzingAlong> harmental: that one but does not matter i am told it will use kdm
[14:18] <WaltzingAlong> !themes | jude
[14:18] <ubotu> jude: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[14:18] <jude> thanks
[14:18] <ardchoille> ksal: rc1 is all that is available right now
[14:18] <ShishKabab> WaltzingAlong: I can run a KDE4 session perfectly.. But I have another problem.
[14:19] <ardchoille> ksal: Did you copy the .desktop file?
[14:19] <ksal> ardchoille: but it's not in repo
[14:19] <harmental> WaltzingAlong: so I should select kdm-kde4 then?
[14:19] <WaltzingAlong> harmental: either or should be fine
[14:19] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: the wireless driver is there somewhere, probably something like /windows/win32/802agb,i'mn also looking for some drivers on the internet for you.
[14:19] <ardchoille> ksal: Did you perform the last <li> of the tutorial?
[14:19] <harmental> WaltzingAlong: ok.....here we go
[14:20] <ksal> ardchoille: geez, no! this morning i've installed kde4 packaged available in regular repos, i didn't add any other sources! i didn't read that tutorial
[14:20] <ksal> i juts installed packages, that seems to be beta 4
[14:20] <harmental> WaltzingAlong: f***...."There was an error comiting changes"
[14:21] <ardchoille> ksal: You didn't read that tutorial? Read that tutorial and you'll learn how to start a kde4 session
[14:21] <WaltzingAlong> harmental: with postint?
[14:21] <WaltzingAlong> harmental: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.postinst; sudo aptitude -f install
[14:21] <ShishKabab> WaltzingAlong: I can't compile my KDE4 app anymore. It fails saying that KDE4Internal_DIR is not set... In which packages can I find the right CMake modules?
[14:21] <dthacker> we need a kde4 channel
[14:21] <ksal> ardchoille: i think i'll refuse.....
[14:21] <nosrednaekim> ShishKabab: did you follow the instructions from the KDE4 svn?
[14:21] <SatManUK> so create one..
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> dthacker: ;)
[14:22] <hydrogen> no
[14:22] <hydrogen> we don't.
[14:22] <harmental> WaltzingAlong: I did that and everything seems ok....
[14:22] <WaltzingAlong> ShishKabab: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4  ?
[14:23] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: get the driver from the link on this page http://en.opensuse.org/Atheros_ndiswrapper
[14:23] <ShishKabab> No.. I tried that 3 times and it fails on me every time... I just use the packagees and normally it's fine
[14:23] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: and if you use ndiswrapper, you need to blacklist ath_pci
[14:24] <SatManUK> i have to say i do wish there was an opesuse server in Georgia - i didn't get nearly as many sigterm errors in Suse 10.2/10.3
[14:24] <nosrednaekim> ShishKabab: oh... well maybe you should try #kde4-deve
[14:24] <SatManUK> as i am getting in Kubuntu
[14:24] <SatManUK> but i had some pc's stolen and they trashed my dvd's
[14:24] <nosrednaekim> <_<
[14:24] <ShishKabab> Osn't this a Kubuntu package problem?
[14:25] <Tm_T> what?
[14:25] <nosrednaekim> ShishKabab: it may be, may not be.... #kde4-devel can tell you for certain
[14:25] <ShishKabab> Ok... Sorry for knocking on the wrong door :)
[14:25] <Tm_T> np
[14:26] <Tm_T> well partly right door
[14:26] <ShishKabab> I will try at #kde4-devel and see what they have to say... Thnx for your time!
[14:26] <nosrednaekim> but its a duplex, and we are the downstairs ;)
[14:27] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: I'm not
[14:28] <apow> starting kde 4
[14:28] <apow> *cross fingers*
[14:33] <SatManUK> !ndiswrapper
[14:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:39]  * genii sips a large coffee
[14:42] <lucentdream> hello, is the medibuntu repository recommended for use with gutsy or should i use another repository? or shall even install eg. w32codecs manually with dpkg?
[14:43] <SatManUK> nosrednaekim: i unpacked the inf and cat files - and installed the ndiswrapper common, tools and gtk
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> !medibuntu
[14:43] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: ok
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> lucentdream: I think its safe
[14:44] <lucentdream> ok thanks.
[14:46] <SatManUK> i found in applications - system - windows wireless driver
[14:46] <SatManUK> so i am going to run that
[14:46] <SatManUK> do i need to remove all the madwifi stuff?
[14:47] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: yeah, that would be good, and disable the ath_pci module in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[14:51] <SatManUK> how to disable it?
[14:52] <hotrice> need help upgrading to kde4
[14:52] <SatManUK> brb
[14:54] <nosrednaekim> hotrice: did you read the kubuntu tutorial?
[14:55] <hotrice> yes
[14:57] <hotrice> I can't install kdm-kde4 for some reason
[14:58] <hotrice> I get this error: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[14:58] <dmeoj> salut tlm
[14:58] <hotrice> I've completed all the steps in the instructions
[14:58] <dmeoj> hi everybody
[14:58] <hotrice> actually, I couldn't get Xephyr to work either
[14:59] <tekteen> dmeoj: ji
[14:59] <tekteen> hi*
[14:59] <nosrednaekim> hotrice: yeah,I saw a complaint about that... just a sec.
[14:59] <hotrice> oh you saw that on ubuntuforums.org?
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> hotrice: "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.postinst; sudo aptitude -f install"
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> hotrice: no... in the scrollback ;)
[15:00] <hotrice> ok will try that now
[15:00] <dmeoj> tekteen: could you help me?
[15:01] <tekteen> !ask | dmeoj
[15:01] <ubotu> dmeoj: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[15:01] <dmeoj> ubotu: ok
[15:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:01] <tekteen> !ubotu
[15:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:01] <hotrice> ok
[15:01] <dmeoj> I am beginner and I would like to change Konqueror in Kubuntu
[15:01] <lounge-about> quick question, how do i make mplayer play songs randomly
[15:01] <hotrice> should I try to reinstall kdm-kde4?
[15:01] <tekteen> change?
[15:02] <dmeoj> I would like to install Firefox
[15:02] <tekteen> ok
[15:02] <tekteen> open up a konsole
[15:02] <dmeoj> I got a tar g file
[15:02] <nosrednaekim> hotrice: thats what that just did :D
[15:02] <dmeoj> ok
[15:02] <dmeoj> tekteen: and then ?
[15:03] <tekteen> now copy and paste "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[15:03] <tekteen> then press enter
[15:03] <tekteen> enter your password
[15:03] <tekteen> and wait
[15:03] <hotrice> well I got an error and it didn't install
[15:03] <ardchoille> dmeoj: and then get rid of the tar file of firefox, you don't need it
[15:03] <tekteen> (I type slow)
[15:03] <xt|away> i just compiled, make'd and make installed libvisual and libvisual-plugins and amarok is still telling me that i don't have libvisual or any plugins installed.  help?
[15:03] <tekteen> ty, ardchoille
[15:04] <ardchoille> yw tekteen
[15:04] <nosrednaekim> hotrice: oh humm.
[15:04] <hotrice> I got this: rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.postinst': No such file or directory
[15:04] <hotrice> then this: No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[15:04] <nosrednaekim> hotrice: oh....ok try reinstalling kdm-kde4 then.
[15:04] <hotrice> ok
[15:05] <patricio> 16:03:28: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [smb://root@192.168.123.253/file.avi]16:03:28: xine: input plugin cannot open MRL [smb://root@192.168.123.253/file.avi]16:03:28: xine: found input plugin : CIFS/SMB input plugin based on libsmbclient
[15:05] <hotrice> When trying to reinstall it I got this:
[15:05] <hotrice> dpkg: error processing kdm-kde4 (--configure):
[15:05] <hotrice>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[15:05] <hotrice> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:05] <hotrice>  kdm-kde4
[15:05] <hotrice> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:06] <lounge-about> quick question, how do i make mplayer play songs randomly
[15:06] <dmeoj> tekteen: thanks
[15:06] <patricio> can I not use xine to play files that are on remote hosts in the lan?
[15:06] <SatManUK> back
[15:06] <dmeoj> ardchoille: thx
[15:07] <tekteen> dmeoj: np
[15:07] <dmeoj> tekteen: It running now
[15:07] <tekteen> cool
[15:07] <dmeoj> tekteen: if I want for example to install another software is it the same procedure ?
[15:07] <tekteen> yep
[15:08] <dmeoj> tekteen: what is now happening with konqueror ?
[15:08] <dmeoj> tekteen: should I uninstall
[15:08] <SatManUK> nosrednaekim: how to disable madwifi in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modlues-common
[15:08] <tekteen> no
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> hotrice: hmmm I don't
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> know
[15:08] <tekteen> It is a useful file manager
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: just put "ath_pci
[15:08] <fritz> I have a question
[15:09] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: in the between the quotes after disabled_modues
[15:09] <tekteen> dmeoj: u want to see a cool feature in *ubuntu
[15:09] <fritz> I try to use adept and it tells me that I already have it running or something to that effect
[15:09] <hotrice> ok thanks
[15:09] <fritz> how do I get adept running to update
[15:10] <fritz> (I just turned the machine on and have not run anything
[15:10] <dmeoj> tekteen: yes
[15:10] <tekteen> dmeoj: type "thunderbird" in the terminal and it will tell u how to get the program
[15:11] <tekteen> dmeoj: it tells u with every program u want
[15:11] <fritz> can someone help
[15:12] <dmeoj> tekteen: It doesnt exist
[15:12] <ricardo_> WaltzingAlong: its harmental....
[15:12] <pag> !aptfix | fritz
[15:12] <ubotu> fritz: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:12] <ricardo_> i'm writing from kde 4
[15:12] <tekteen> odd
[15:12] <tekteen> type wine instead
[15:12] <fritz> great thanks
[15:12] <ricardo_> where are all my startup defaults? my file associations? conky???
[15:13] <ricardo_> WaltzingAlong: please help me here......how can i recover all that?
[15:13] <dmeoj> tekteen: same response
[15:14] <nosrednaekim> ricardo_: its probably using your .kde4
[15:14] <nosrednaekim> waht you need to do is set your KDEHOME to .kde. but that CAN mess up some settings
[15:14] <tekteen> does it say this "The program 'juice' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[15:14] <tekteen> sudo apt-get install juice
[15:14] <tekteen> "
[15:14] <dmeoj> tekteen: I am using kubuntu 6.10.1 alternate cd and I have updated at the beginning
[15:14] <tekteen> ok
[15:14] <xt|away> could i get a quick hand with something?
[15:15] <tekteen> It only works with 7.04 and up
[15:15] <dmeoj> tekteen: how can I update the os ?
[15:16] <xt|away> anyone?
[15:16] <pag> xt|away, just aske the question :)  (and please don't use away nicks)
[15:16] <fritz> well, now adept wont even load now
[15:16] <tekteen> do u what to upgrade to a new version?
[15:16] <ricardo_> nosrednaekim: is there an easy way to rollback to kde 3.5.8 and to old configs?
[15:16] <xt828> i just compiled, make'd and make installed libvisual and libvisual-plugins and amarok is still telling me that i don't have libvisual or any plugins installed.  what am i doing wrong?
[15:17] <fritz> pag: what do I do now?
[15:17] <fritz> pag: adept now wont load
[15:17] <pag> xt828, you probably got the path wrong.. try installing libvisual-0.4-0 from the repos
[15:18] <dmeoj> tekteen: I do not fully understand what you are trying to tell me
[15:18] <nosrednaekim> ricardo_: back up your .kde
[15:18] <dmeoj> tekteen: I am not english in fact
[15:18] <fritz> I did the flash install, but at the end it said it was installed with errors
[15:18] <pag> fritz, open konsole and type "sudo apt-get install -f"  see if it gives any errors..
[15:18] <dmeoj> tekteen: or american
[15:18] <fritz> ok
[15:18] <tekteen> dmeoj: ok
[15:19] <tekteen> dmeoj: are you using "dapper"?
[15:19] <dmeoj> tekteen: yes
[15:19] <tekteen> ok
[15:19] <tekteen> the new one is gutsy
[15:20] <nosrednaekim> xt828: I think you should probably install them from the repositories
[15:20] <dmeoj> gutsy doesnt exist in alternate cd ?
[15:20] <fritz> pag: cool, no errors and it looked like it installed
[15:20] <ricardo_> nosrednaekim: do you mean the /home/user/.kde folder?
[15:20] <tekteen> yes it does
[15:20] <xt828> aha!  repositories + brain turned on = win, thanks pag
[15:20] <dmeoj> tekteen: I have a media problem with a IBM
[15:20] <pag> fritz, does the Adept work now?
[15:21] <nosrednaekim> ricardo_: yes
[15:21] <pag> xt828, np :)
[15:21] <tekteen> ok
[15:21] <fritz> lol, you rock
[15:21] <fritz> yes
[15:21] <fritz> thank you
[15:21] <tekteen> dmeoj: what problem?
[15:21] <dmeoj> tekteen: That is why I just use alternate cd
[15:21] <tekteen> ok
[15:21] <SatManUK> what does "forcing map register from 256 to 64 : mean?
[15:21] <SatManUK> what does "forcing map register from 256 to 64" mean?
[15:21] <dmeoj> tekteen: I still cant install linux on it
[15:21] <dmeoj> tekteen: except mandriva 2007
[15:21] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: I'm not sure... but its normal :D
[15:22] <tekteen> dmeoj: all versions work with the alternative cd
[15:22] <dmeoj> tekteen: but I do not really like
[15:22] <ricardo_> nosrednaekim: bakcup done...what now?
[15:22] <dmeoj> tekteen: no, yamefa doesnt exist in alternate cd
[15:22] <fritz> now...... can anyone recommend cd labeling software
[15:22] <fritz> ?
[15:22] <tekteen> yamefa?
[15:22] <nosrednaekim> ricardo_: in the totorial,you had to define somewhere "KDEHOME=~/.kde4"
[15:23] <ricardo_> yep
[15:23] <dmeoj> tekteen: type yamefa in a search engine
[15:23] <nosrednaekim> ricardo_: set that to ~/.kde
[15:23] <dmeoj> tekteen: you will find the website
[15:23] <tekteen> dmeoj: u can download the alternate cd for a newer kubuntu version
[15:24] <dmeoj> ok
[15:24] <tekteen> want a link to it?
[15:24] <dmeoj> tekteen: I still have konqueror
[15:24] <tekteen> ok
[15:24] <tekteen> keep it
[15:24] <ricardo_> nosrednaekim: what about file asociations and my precious amarok database?
[15:24] <dmeoj> tekteen: ok
[15:24] <nosrednaekim> ricardo_: should all come over :D
[15:24] <nosrednaekim> but make sure you back up your .kde
[15:25] <dmeoj> tekteen: in fact gmail was not working properly with konqueror and they said to change for firefox, explorer, or netscape
[15:26] <tekteen> ok
[15:26] <tekteen> konqueror is a great file manager
[15:26] <tekteen> not a good web browser
[15:27] <dmeoj> tekteen: ok
[15:27] <dmeoj> tekteen: I still have another problem
[15:27] <tekteen> ok
[15:28] <tekteen> dmeoj: what is the problem?
[15:28] <dmeoj> tekteen: I can access to my 'partition' in fat32
[15:28] <tekteen> ok
[15:28] <dmeoj> tekteen: I would like to share excel and word docs on it
[15:28] <tekteen> ok
[15:28] <dmeoj> tekteen: to be able to work also from xp
[15:29] <tekteen> do u know what the pastebin is?
[15:29] <dmeoj> tekteen: that I left on the hdd
[15:29] <dmeoj> tekteen: non
[15:29] <dmeoj> tekteen: klipper ?
[15:29] <tekteen> !pastebin | dmeoj
[15:29] <ubotu> dmeoj: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:30] <dmeoj> tekteen: ok thanks
[15:30] <tekteen> paste the contents of the file "/etc/fstab"
[15:31] <SatManUK> rl: littlebutterflygirl@WorldOfFormulaOne:~$ ndiswrapper -l
[15:31] <SatManUK> net5211 : driver installed
[15:31] <SatManUK> i added the ath_pci as you said nosrednaekim - but when i modprobe ndiswrapper nothing happens..
[15:32] <jaguila> wenas
[15:32] <jaguila> algun/a español/a?????????'
[15:32] <tekteen> dmeoj: paste the file "/etc/fstab" in the pastebin
[15:32] <timri> !es
[15:32] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[15:33] <jaguila> lo q kiero es hablar con alguien
[15:33] <dmeoj> tekteen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45468/
[15:33] <jaguila> =)
[15:33] <tekteen> thanks
[15:33] <radanter> Hi all, I am using 7.04 and Kontact for my mail. When I log in Kmail always starts up but I don't want it to. I want to start Kontact with Kmail embedded in it not as a seperate application. I tried closing everything and saving my KDE session but it keeps doing this. Anyone have any idea how to stop Kmail starting automatically? Thanks!
[15:34] <jaguila> españa??
[15:34] <tekteen> dmeoj: open up the konsole again and type this command "fdisk -l" then paste the output on pastebin
[15:35] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: thats good... nothing is supposed to happen :D run "sudo ndiswrapper -m" and then reboot
[15:35] <WaltzingAlong> ricardo_: help you recover what?
[15:35] <WaltzingAlong> ricardo_: kde4? settings in ~/.kde4 not ~/.kde
[15:35] <WaltzingAlong> ricardo_: how to use kde3.5.8 session again? select kde (not kde4) at kdm
[15:37] <tekteen> I need to go for a secound
[15:37] <ricardo_> WaltzingAlong: i want to either recover my old config (startup apps, file assoc, amarok db,...) or simply roll back to kde3.5.8
[15:37] <dmeoj> tekteen: what is the output ?
[15:37] <tekteen> what comes out of the command
[15:37] <dmeoj> the hole text ?
[15:38] <tekteen> yep
[15:38] <WaltzingAlong> ricardo_: yes and you should find the settings in ~/.kde4 not ~/.kde   though .kde would have your 3.5.8 ones
[15:38] <nosrednaekim> ricardo_: youn should be able to select kde3 on login
[15:38] <FunnyLookinHat> Have any of you tried the RC1 ?  If so, is it actually usable now (as compared to the weird sandbox that Beta 1,2,3 were)?
[15:39] <WaltzingAlong> FunnyLookinHat: the quick answer is no
[15:39] <nosrednaekim> FunnyLookinHat: I use an svn snapshot from about 2 weeks before RC1, and it works fairly well, still plenty of bugs, but definately usable
[15:39] <FunnyLookinHat> WaltzingAlong, I mean for testing purposes....     is it usable in that sense?
[15:39] <dmeoj> tekteen: I am not sure to do exactely what you said
[15:39] <WaltzingAlong> FunnyLookinHat: of course
[15:39] <tekteen> ok
[15:40] <FunnyLookinHat> (I'm definitely able to troubleshoot and bug report what needs to be, so I'd rather help that sit idly)
[15:40] <tekteen> um
[15:40] <fritz> now...... can anyone recommend cd labeling software
[15:40] <FunnyLookinHat> Ah ok
[15:40] <tekteen> what language do u speak
[15:40] <dmeoj> tekteen: I copied what I insert on the web page
[15:40] <dmeoj> tekteen: french
[15:40] <FunnyLookinHat> Should I install kubuntu-desktop before I install all of the KDE4 stuff, or just KDE4 stuff (I'm on Gnome right now)?
[15:40] <tekteen> ok
[15:40] <tekteen> I will look up the word for output in french
[15:40] <fritz> I am very fluent in jibberish
[15:41] <ricardo_> nosrednaekim: i cant get to backup my .kde folder....
[15:41] <dmeoj> tekteen: I know output
[15:41] <tekteen> ok
[15:41] <nosrednaekim> FunnyLookinHat: just kde4 stuff should be fine
[15:41] <WaltzingAlong> FunnyLookinHat: you could just install the kde4 still as far as i know
[15:41] <dmeoj> tekteen: but I dont see any output
[15:41] <nosrednaekim> ricardo_: why not...
[15:41] <tekteen> try "sudo fdisk -l"
[15:42] <fritz> now...... can anyone recommend cd labeling software
[15:42] <Black_Monkey> is there a way to get up the new panel in kde4 rc1?
[15:42] <nosrednaekim> FunnyLookinHat: the gdm config MAY be slightly different
[15:42] <fritz> now...... can anyone recommend cd labeling software?
[15:42] <WaltzingAlong> !repeat | fritz
[15:42] <ubotu> fritz: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[15:42] <WaltzingAlong> fritz: marker
[15:42] <dmeoj> tekteen:  and then ?
[15:43] <tekteen> paste the output on pastebin
[15:43] <tekteen> then give me the link
[15:43] <nosrednaekim> man...i'm going to have to get kde4 to help all these requests :D
[15:43] <fritz> cool, thanks. I hope I'm not annoying by redundancy
[15:44] <nosrednaekim> !helpersnack | tekteen
[15:44] <ubotu> tekteen: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[15:45] <dmeoj> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45468/
[15:45]  * tekteen likes chocolate chip
[15:45] <tekteen> dmeoj: thanks
[15:46] <tekteen> dmeoj: I will look at it
[15:46] <dmeoj> tekteen: ok
[15:46] <dmeoj> tekteen: I have to leave now, my boss is gonna kill me
[15:46] <tekteen> ok
[15:47] <dmeoj> tekteen: later
[15:47] <tekteen> later
[15:48] <onishidato> how can i use the rpm file anyway?
[15:49] <tekteen> !rpm
[15:49] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[15:49] <bentob0x> anybody got a good web crawler like Teleport Pro for Ubuntu/KDE?
[15:49] <onishidato> thanks
[15:49] <WaltzingAlong> fritz: also try scribus or openoffice.org
[15:49] <WaltzingAlong> wget ?
[15:50] <bentob0x> will wget save all the files and respect website structure/hierarchy?
[15:50] <fritz> really, didnt now that
[15:50] <bentob0x> so I can see the site offline?
[15:50] <fritz> know
[15:50] <ricardo_> grrr.....ok thats it....
[15:50] <ardchoille>   onishidato You don't use .rpm files. kubuntu uses .deb files. Converting an rpm to a deb is dangerous.
[15:50] <ricardo_> nosrednaekim and WaltzingAlong:
[15:50] <nosrednaekim> bentob0x: yes
[15:51] <ricardo_> could you please indicate how to remove kde4 and roll back to my good old 3.5.8?
[15:51] <nosrednaekim> bentob0x: when configured correctly
[15:51] <WaltzingAlong> ricardo_: you did not delete kde3.5.8
[15:51] <onishidato> so how can i use it. this program is only issued in .rpm file
[15:51] <WaltzingAlong> ricardo_: at the kdm login manager, select session 'kde' to get back to 3.5.8
[15:51] <onishidato> this is a program let me type in vietnamese
[15:51] <SatManUK> nosrednaekim: rebooted - message saying windows drivers - can't open anything - still no wireless and one frustrated lady :(
[15:52] <WaltzingAlong> ricardo_: and uninstall kde4rc1 the same way you put it in there: through apt-get/adept/aptitude
[15:52] <nosrednaekim> ricardo_: on the login screen, you should be able to run kde3 by clicking on the session box and selecting "KDE"
[15:52] <ardchoille> onishidato: You don't use it, look for a deb or don't use the app. Which app is it? Have you searched the repos?
[15:52] <ricardo_> WaltzingAlong: where is the kdm login manager?
[15:52] <ricardo_> nosrednaekim: i have already tried that...i only see kde4
[15:52] <WaltzingAlong> ricardo_: when your computer starts, to ask you to log in
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK:can't open anything?
[15:53] <onishidato> x-unikey-1.0.3b-FC4.i586.rpm that's the name of it
[15:53] <ricardo_> WaltzingAlong: i only see kde4
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: try a "iwlist ath0 scan"
[15:53] <WaltzingAlong> ricardo_: into an X session
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: and check if ndiswrapper was modprobed
[15:53] <ricardo_> ok...let me try...be right back
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> with "lsmod | gre ndis"
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> *grep
[15:53] <ardchoille> onishidato: You're better off compiling it yourself if all you can find is an rpm
[15:53] <tekteen> me hungry
[15:54] <tekteen> my brother is a dead man (he wrote it)
[15:54] <bentob0x> just found that wget -rp http://www.example.com does it nicely, thx WaltzingAlong and nosrednaekim
[15:54] <onishidato> ardchoille: i will find another file anyway
[15:54] <WaltzingAlong> bentob0x: cheers
[15:56] <draik> Hello all
[15:56] <SatManUK> iwlist interface doesn't support scanning - i don't think its modprobed
[15:56] <tekteen> draik: hello
[15:56] <SatManUK> should i try a modprobe ndiswrapper?
[15:57] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: try "lsmod | grep ndis"
[15:58] <harmental> nosrednaekim and WaltzingAlong: I have options default, KDE4 and failsafe...when i select default my precious kde 3.5.8 is back!!
[15:58] <harmental> now...what is a safe way to remove kde4?
[15:58] <SatManUK> nothing happens
[15:59] <nosrednaekim> harmental: why do you want to remove it?
[15:59] <SatManUK> no lights - no messages
[15:59] <Azzco> I have a sound skipping problem here... Should I try to cvompile a new kernel or something? The problem is both with oss and alsa system wide.
[15:59] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: what does "lsmod | grep ath" show?
[15:59] <kyron> ahoy, I installed 7.10 on my mother's laptop and she is now crying 5000Km from me because she is telling me it's "dead"...from the description she is giving me it's a suspend to disk problem (hibernate). Can anyone point me to the proper kubbuntu howto on disabling resume from HDD (probably Grub/kernel boot-time parameter)
[16:00] <harmental> nosrednaekim: because i wont use until a stable release and i dont any previous RC version to get in the way :o)
[16:00] <kyron> Azzco, check the alsa wiki first
[16:00] <Azzco> kyron: It's for oss too..
[16:01] <nosrednaekim> harmental: well,then you can remove kde-base
[16:01] <kyron> oss is emulated by alsa iirc (oss is long deprecated)
[16:01] <nosrednaekim> *kde4-base
[16:01] <Azzco> kyron: Okay I'll have a look then. Thanks for clearing that up :)
[16:02] <SatManUK> nosrednaekim: still nothing
[16:02] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: then modprobe ndiswrapper
[16:02] <kyron> Azzco, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page
[16:02] <vbgunz> is there a way to get a list of all custom install packages? preferably seperated by group e.g., multimedia, etc?
[16:02] <nosrednaekim> "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[16:04] <SatManUK> still nothing
[16:04] <SatManUK> i did sudo..
[16:04] <harmental> nosrednaekim: should i request removal or purging?
[16:04] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: ok, now try "islist ath0 scan"
[16:04] <nosrednaekim> *iwlist
[16:05] <onishidato> sudo apt-get install mini-dinstall
[16:05] <onishidato> i can't do that thing
[16:05] <onishidato> is it correct code?
[16:06] <SatManUK> iwlist ath0 doesn't support scanning
[16:06] <draik> nosrednaekim: I managed to get past the error messages I received from Kaffeine. Now, everything plays, but choppy. VLC is the only player which doesn't give me any complications. Got any idea where I should look for an answer?
[16:07] <jhutchins> onishidato: Looks like plain language to me, not code.
[16:07] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: errr!
[16:07] <SatManUK> thats just what im saying..
[16:07] <harmental> nosrednaekim or WaltzingAlong: should i alos uninstall kdebase-runtime
[16:07] <SatManUK> ndiswrapper -l says driver installed..
[16:07] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: try "lsmod | grep ndiswrapper
[16:08] <nosrednaekim> harmental: yes
[16:08] <SatManUK> so the lsmod need to be sudo?
[16:09] <SatManUK> ndiswrapper           185240  0
[16:09] <SatManUK> usbcore               138632  5 ndiswrapper,usbhid,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
[16:10] <jhutchins> SatManUK: figure any time you're doing something that could affect the over-all system you need sudo.
[16:10] <SatManUK> ok
[16:10] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: ok.. good
[16:11] <SatManUK> so if your just enquring something you don't
[16:11] <SatManUK> if your changing something you do..
[16:11] <Dr_willis> Unlike how windoes vista works with its Nag-dialogs. :)
[16:11] <SatManUK> hahaha
[16:11] <SatManUK> i detest vista
[16:11] <SatManUK> 10gb just to sit their and do bugger all ..
[16:12] <WaltzingAlong> harmental: if you want it uninstalled then sure remove the packages you installed:  sudo aptitude purge kdebase-dev-kde4 kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-runtime
[16:12] <SatManUK> all its "toys"
[16:12] <SatManUK> nosrednaekim: so what do we need to do now? if ndiswrapper has imported the driver.. why isn't it active..
[16:12] <harmental> WaltzingAlong: thx!
[16:13] <jhutchins> SatManUK: Well, if you're asking about something systemish, you might.  Networking is considered security info by some, so yes, you need sudo.
[16:13] <jhutchins> SatManUK: Some wireless adapters need to actually load two drivers.
[16:14] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: is the wireless switch on?
[16:14] <jhutchins> SatManUK: sudo iwconfig doesn't show the card?
[16:14] <SatManUK> nosrednaekim: what do you mean?
[16:14] <harmental> WaltzingAlong: is it safe/clever to do apt-get autoremove --purge afterwards?
[16:14] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK:  is this a desktop or a laptop?
[16:14] <WaltzingAlong> harmental: as you wish; you can see the list of things that command would want to remove
[16:14] <SatManUK> jhutchins: nosrednaekim has a similar card (laptop)
[16:15] <SatManUK> its a fujistsu s series lifebook
[16:15] <harmental> there are 97 packages not quite easy to check them all... :op
[16:15] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: then there should be a wireless witch or hotkey somewhere
[16:15] <WaltzingAlong> harmental: :D
[16:16] <SatManUK> on the laptop?
[16:16] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: yes
[16:16] <Jix_Chojuq> selam
[16:16] <WaltzingAlong> harmental: if you installed through aptitude removing through aptitude would remove those installed just to satisfy dependencies no longer needed
[16:17] <SatManUK> i never had such a button with my laptop when i ran suse.. i just had to modprobe ndiswrapper on each boot to get the wifi working
[16:17] <WaltzingAlong> ndiswrapper -m  ?
[16:17] <SatManUK> well we have tried that..
[16:19] <SatManUK> she said it "depends" on the button question - so maybe indeed their is
[16:19] <Barbarello> Hi, people! Cant you say, whats the extension of localisation update files? As like as apts it is DEB or not? If so, where i can find it (like applications cached in /var/cache/apt)??
[16:19] <WaltzingAlong> Fn + F2 ?
[16:19] <tekteen> Barbarello: I do not understand the question
[16:19] <WaltzingAlong> ^^ likewise
[16:20] <SatManUK> quote: : there is like wireless connection... if you can detect the wifi... it's automatically connected unless if you unable the wireless connection, you need to enable it and double click and see which wifi available and connect
[16:21] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: sounds like sofware controlled then.... that makes it a bit harder.... could you boot into vista and make sure the radio is enabled?
[16:21] <Barbarello> tekteen: So.. I had download update of locale for my own language. Where i can get files i had downloaded - need to have a copy for another pc, for example.
[16:21] <SatManUK> so she needs to go into vista
[16:21] <SatManUK> check the radio is enabled
[16:21] <SatManUK> then reboot into linux..
[16:21] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK:yeah
[16:21] <tekteen> ok
[16:21] <nosrednaekim> try that
[16:21] <SatManUK> thats gonna be hard - when she gets into vista - she won't wanna leave !!!
[16:21] <tekteen> Barbarello: I will look it up
[16:21] <SatManUK> but i will ask her :)
[16:22] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK:  hehe.... yeah...
[16:22] <knights> I'd like to use our uni network connection to apt-mirror gutsy but the prob is two fold- a) We only have fedora boxes b) the local drives aren't big enough so I'd have to save it onto a big network drive, NTFS formatted. So can I run apt-mirror under Fedora (6) and will I habe to create a partition file on the NTFS share drive(1TB)?
[16:22] <nosrednaekim> knights: I believe the answer to both is probably yes
[16:22] <SatManUK> so boot into vista
[16:22] <SatManUK> when the wifi enabled
[16:22] <nosrednaekim> I know you can run apt-mirror on gentoo
[16:22] <SatManUK> boot back to linux?
[16:22] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: reboot
[16:22] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[16:22] <SatManUK> ok
[16:23] <SatManUK> ok she agreed..
[16:23] <kyron> can someone tell me at least which suspend implementation is used in Kubuntu so that I can figure out how to get a laptop to boot "normally" with the proper kernel parameter at the grub command line??
[16:23] <SatManUK> says "i am going to get introuble for this after and "she is looking for a new bf :("
[16:23] <tekteen> Barbarello: you can find the debs in "/var/cache/archives"
[16:23] <nosrednaekim> :(
[16:23] <SatManUK> why can't linux just detect her wifi card like it does her network and sound..
[16:24] <Barbarello> tekteen: just an applications ( I need locales!
[16:24] <jzilla> happy thanksgiving friends, from kcontrol - any of the options that require an Admin mode are comming up with the error "Could not find module" and kick me back the the kcontrol start page. Ive reinstalled said modules to no avail. Any ideas?
[16:24] <sada> hi!!!
[16:24] <SatManUK> she says "its not a good example for a newby setting on wifi on their first day" - which in fairness is true :P
[16:24] <knights> nosrednaekim: Good - I hope so! What about the network drive though?
[16:24] <SatManUK> i prefer to recomend linux to wired network users for this reason..
[16:25] <nosrednaekim> knights: that should work too via NFS
[16:25] <SatManUK> in theory ndiswrapper should be easy but ..
[16:25] <tekteen> Barbarello: for a application or the entire system?
[16:25] <nosrednaekim> theories are just that
[16:26] <nosrednaekim> jzilla: try starting them from the konsole with kdesudo for instance "kdesudo mountconfig"
[16:26] <Barbarello> tekteen: locale for all my kubuntu system.
[16:26] <jzilla> ill give that a shot nosrednaekim, thanks
[16:26] <tekteen> ok
[16:26] <knights> nosrednaekim: So you're saying that if the network drive that I'm apt-mirroring to is hosted via NFS I should be OK?
[16:26] <nosrednaekim> knights: I would think so.
[16:27] <noob_100> anyone know what this means to bash? :(){ :|:&};:
[16:27] <Chousuke> it's a bash fork bomb
[16:27] <tekteen> that is kept in "/var/cache/apt/archives/" under the name "language-pack*"
[16:27] <noob_100> how does it work?
[16:27] <knights> nosrednaekim: I'll give it a go - thanks!
[16:27] <nosrednaekim> jzilla: you can list the modules with "kcmshell --list"
[16:27] <Chousuke> it creates a function called : that calls itself twice
[16:28] <nosrednaekim> noob_100: basically, it spawn thousands of processes
[16:28] <Chousuke> so it creates new processes at an exponential rate.
[16:28] <noob_100> Chousuke: thanks... its a beast... killed my colleague's box a few mins ago :-)
[16:28] <tekteen> Barbarello: that is kept in "/var/cache/apt/archives/" under the name "language-pack*"
[16:28] <Chousuke> process limits are good fot you
[16:28] <Chousuke> for*
[16:28] <SatManUK> all flavours of linux have the drawback for wifi imo.
[16:29] <Barbarello> tekteen: damn. I see it.
[16:29] <knights> Chousuke: Does ubuntu not have a limit ootb?
[16:29] <Barbarello> tekteen: Thanks a lot!
[16:29] <noob_100> how do you set process limits?
[16:29] <SatManUK> i guess its down to the chipset manufacturers to do more to intergrate their products
[16:29] <tekteen> Barbarello: np
[16:29] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: you just have to shop smart... know that what you are getting is supported by linux
[16:29] <Chousuke> noob_100: with ulimit
[16:29] <Dr_willis> I find wifi under windows - to be lacking in many ways also. :)
[16:29] <ubunturos> coo! exact 400 nicks :)
[16:29] <Chousuke> noob_100: set it to 200 or 300 and you should be fine.
[16:29] <tekteen> Barbarello: why did you say damn?
[16:29] <noob_100> Chousuke: ta very much... glad to have learned something
[16:29] <SatManUK> i hear dell are shipping linux now..
[16:29] <Chousuke> noob_100: if you make it too low, your system won't run very well :)
[16:29] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: yup, and Asus
[16:30] <SatManUK> thats a start..
[16:30] <jzilla> happy thanksgiving all, and thanks for the help <3
[16:30] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: and lenovo....and HP in Australia
[16:30] <ubunturos> SatManUK: weren
[16:30] <SatManUK> i recently asked my webcam manufacturer for a linux driver in the absence of a vista driver..
[16:30] <ubunturos> SatManUK: weren't they doing it already?
[16:30] <SatManUK> which flavours though ubuntu or suse or what?
[16:30] <knights> Would anyone know where I could find a apt-mirror package for Fedora 6?
[16:31] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: for dell? gusty, HP does redhat, lenovo uses suse
[16:31] <SatManUK> Novell have enough clout to push it
[16:31] <Barbarello> tekteen: cuz i was blind, men! Thank u, you get me try to look closer )
[16:32] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: i'm sorry man.... but Ig2g
[16:32] <tekteen> ok
[16:32] <tekteen> your welcome. lol
[16:32] <SatManUK> ok thanks for your help man your a start
[16:32] <SatManUK> ok thanks for your help man your a star
[16:32] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: <_<
[16:32] <SatManUK> where are you from nosrednaekim?
[16:32] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: US
[16:32] <SatManUK> aha..
[16:33] <SatManUK> im in Tbilisi, Georgia and the gf is in Malaysia..
[16:33] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: i'm sure there will be others to help you though...
[16:33] <SatManUK> but im from the UK
[16:33] <knights> SatManUK: Are you the guy who used to live in Bury?
[16:33] <SatManUK> thanks man..
[16:33] <SatManUK> yes
[16:33] <nosrednaekim> SatManUK: yw
[16:33] <knights> :)
[16:33] <Barbarello> What is prefered more: ext2 or ext3??
[16:33] <nosrednaekim> ext3
[16:33] <SatManUK> knights ..
[16:33] <SatManUK> kubuntu-
[16:33] <knights> Rochdale
[16:33] <SatManUK> kubuntu_offtopic..
[16:33] <knights> danboid
[16:33] <SatManUK> so we don't get in trouble..
[16:33] <Barbarello> nosrednaekim: why?
[16:34] <vbgunz> is it possible to see a list of the applications I manually installed? not the ones that come with Gutsy? is it possible also to get a list that eliminates as many dependencies as possible?
[16:34] <knights> SatManUK: Yeah, I spoke to you in a suse channel once, thatsall
[16:34] <SatManUK> i remember
[16:34]  * genii sips a coffee and thinks about !clone but listed by date
[16:34] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  not that i am aware of on the manual install.. since there really is no differance.
[16:34] <SatManUK> i had my laptop stolen and the bar stewards trashed my dvd
[16:35] <SatManUK> kubuntu is the only flavour with a mirror in Georgia
[16:35] <SatManUK> so its 8mb/s for kubuntu or 128k/s for suse
[16:35] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: i think I figured out how to do it if necessary but don't see a quick, easy, dirty way of eliminating all dependencies
[16:36] <SatManUK> and for what i do - it makes no odds really - although i have to say - suse seems more stable - i am getting intermittant system failures with kubuntu
[16:36] <tekteen> !clone | vbgunz
[16:36] <ubotu> vbgunz: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[16:36] <knights> SatManUK: ubuntu is lightning fast compared to suse with 7.10
[16:36] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  thers a command that can show all installed packages. :) guess ya could get that list from a clean install.
[16:36] <Dr_willis> And the bot answers. :)
[16:36] <SatManUK> but it keeps crashing on me..
[16:36] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: I know about --get-selections
[16:37] <tekteen> the bot is god
[16:37] <vbgunz> maybe I am not being clear enough :(
[16:37] <tekteen> vbgunz: what r u trying to do
[16:37] <Dr_willis> not sure what you are trying to do. :)  thats often the case in here.
[16:38] <egon> hello :) i have done a big mistake and installed hardy ( with changeing the repos ) and now i want gutsy again. Do i have to install gutsy new or can i reinstalll all Hardy Packeges to Gutsy?
[16:38] <Dr_willis> Someone asks a real specific Q. that is too 'into' the problem. and overshadows the real problem.
[16:38] <timri> vbgunz: aptitude search --display-format  %p '~i!~M'
[16:38] <vbgunz> just trying to get a list of the manually installed applications. the ones I either installed from aptitude or apt-get  or even dpkg -i ... not the ones that ship with Gutsy by default. also, trying to eliminate dependencies e.g., if y and x are both installed *but* y depends on x, only show x
[16:39] <tekteen> ok
[16:39] <jzilla> is it possible to have the computer boot straight to a console, login from there, and use "startx" and basicly not use kdm to logon?
[16:39] <WaltzingAlong> jzilla: yes
[16:39] <timri> vbgunz: Ah, ok.
[16:39] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  right What i was getting at was IF you ran that command on a clean/new install - you could get a list of all default installed packages.  I know of no other way to get a list of the default ones.
[16:39] <SatManUK> !offtopic
[16:39] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[16:40] <jzilla> would removing KDM allow me to do that?
[16:40] <hero> !botsnack
[16:40] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[16:41]  * timri wonders how to coax kdevelop into giving autocompletion for python
[16:41] <Dr_willis> jzilla,  just disable the kdm serrvice
[16:41] <egon> vbgunz: i dont know wath you mean. first i have to change the sources.list from hardy to gutsy ... and than?
[16:41] <SatManUK> knights: you any good with ndiswrapper ... im having problems with the GF's laptop
[16:41] <SatManUK> and i tried just about everything i can think off..
[16:42] <jzilla> thanks!
[16:42] <timri> SatManUK: You mean soon to be EX gf :)
[16:42] <SatManUK> thanks for reminding me timri
[16:42] <timri> :)
[16:42] <knights> SatManUK: Have you tried Mandriva 2008 (GNOME Ed if you want compiz) yet? Best wifi support in Linux by some stretch
[16:42] <SatManUK> i didn't even suggest she a) install linux or b) setup wifi
[16:42] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: I think I may know but eliminating the dependencies have me bugging out atm. I have a theory. I could be way off. if your editor supports line numbers, check this file if you have it /var/log/dpkg.log.1 OR dpkg.log... compare the date on line 8772 to 8773. is that right where it changes for you?
[16:42] <SatManUK> i haven't know..
[16:43] <knights> do! You'll be impressed!
[16:43] <SatManUK> my problem is - my location - 8mb inside the country - 128k outside..
[16:43] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: e.g., it changes from the 16th to the 20th on those 2 lines
[16:43] <SatManUK> there is no other flavour with a distro in the country afaik
[16:43] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: it may not change for you *but* the time may be way different
[16:43] <Tm_T> knights: erm
[16:44] <Dr_willis> I dont een have that many lines. :)
[16:44] <vbgunz> it could also be the first instance of "startup packages purge"
[16:44] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: ?
[16:45] <vbgunz> search for that term. find the first one, after that, do you start noticing your custom packages being installed?
[16:45] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  lets see....
[16:46] <Dr_willis> string not found.   Since they are logs.. it may be i did stuff in a radicially different order then you.
[16:46] <Dr_willis> i cant even rember the last time i update/upgradeed
[16:46] <vbgunz> :(
[16:47] <Dr_willis> grep purge  dpkg.log*   shows no purge in any of my dpkg logs
[16:47]  * genii purges Dr_willis' dpkg.log
[16:48] <asso> hello i'm new of kubuntu :-)
[16:48] <Dr_willis> genii,  i tend to do that a lot also. :)
[16:48] <genii> Dr_willis: ;)
[16:48] <tekteen> hi asso
[16:48] <Asso> Kubuntu is wonderfull !!!
[16:48] <tekteen> I know
[16:48] <tekteen> :-)
[16:48] <Asso> i'm from italy !
[16:49] <tekteen> do u have a question?
[16:49] <Asso> yes
[16:49] <tekteen> what is it?
[16:49] <Asso> is necessary have a firewall in kubunto ? like windows kerio personal firewall ?
[16:49] <tekteen> no
[16:50] <Asso> is secure ? and antivirus  like bitdefender ??
[16:50] <tekteen> You can use clamav
[16:50] <tekteen> however I have never seen a linux virus
[16:51] <Asso> is simple to install ? from adept manager ?
[16:51] <tekteen> yes
[16:51] <Asso> really ? there arent virus on linux ?
[16:51] <ardchoille> Asso: You really don't need an anti-virus app in Linux, there aren't any active Linux viruses right now
[16:51] <vbgunz> Asso: you may only need anti-virus for your email in case you're sending mail to Windows users
[16:52] <tekteen> I use clamav to scan my windows partition (which is on the same computer)
[16:52] <vbgunz> not really sending mail but attaching or forwarding and stuff in which you include content you're not absolutelly sure is 100% safe, etc
[16:52] <Dr_willis> and from what history/docs ive read.. the linux viruses (viruii?) were rahter.. well.. trivial compared to the ones out for windows.
[16:52] <ardchoille> Asso: http://tinyurl.com/625fm
[16:52] <emilsedgh> Asso: for desktop, just use linux without any doubt
[16:52] <tekteen> !virus
[16:52] <Asso> i understand
[16:52] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[16:52] <vbgunz> tekteen: I tried that and found plenty of false positives :(
[16:53] <tekteen> ok
[16:53] <tekteen> was it the test viruses?
[16:53] <Asso> ok now i read the doc
[16:53] <vbgunz> tekteen: do you find false positives or do you scan all of Windows and everything is good for you?
[16:53] <tekteen> no problem
[16:54] <tekteen> I have been fine
[16:54] <Asso> is very good this support for new user of kubuntu . . thank you very much we are very nice
[16:54] <Dr_willis> Id rather have false positives.. then the othe rway. :)
[16:54] <tekteen> your welcome
[16:54] <Tm_T> Asso: youre welcome
[16:54]  * Dr_willis tests out klamav 
[16:55] <vbgunz> heh, I tried it and had so many false positives I didn't want to bother. the only thing I do in Windows atm anyhow is play steam games if I am in the mood
[16:55] <Asso> i can do another question ?
[16:55]  * tekteen likes klamav alot
[16:55] <tekteen> yes
[16:55] <tekteen> Asso: what is the question?
[16:55] <Tm_T> Asso: just ask
[16:55] <Asso> i've seen that there is a beautiful interface the name is compiz . . . is simple to install ?
[16:56] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[16:56] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:56] <MurielGodoi> Hi, why sometimes I got "The following packages have been kept back" message in apt-get upgrade? So some packages aren't updated :/
[16:56] <Dr_willis> its best to learn thebasics befor messing with compiz :)
[16:57] <sacrifice> nobady here
[16:57] <tekteen> MurielGodoi: Those are packages that may uninstall other packages
[16:57] <Asso> ihihihi  :-))) ok   i want learn  linux/kubuntu i think is a wonderfull world !!!
[16:57] <Tm_T> Asso: #kubuntu-it if you like italian channel
[16:58] <tekteen> MurielGodoi: I normally install them
[16:58] <Asso> the best  relase of linux  is kubuntu or there are other ??? oohh  good  now i know the italian channel thank you very much
[16:58] <MurielGodoi> tekteen: How do you force that packages to install?
[16:58] <Tm_T> Asso: if you ask from me, Kubuntu is the best
[16:59] <sacrifice> are there any 3D games you play in ubuntu ???
[16:59] <ardchoille> Aye, kubuntu is the best. I have been using Linux since 2001 and kubuntu is the best for me.
[16:59] <timri> Asso there are lots of other ones: distrowatch.com
[16:59] <TimS> Anyone have a 7300 and having issues with the nVidia drivers?
[16:59] <timri> sacrifice: I play nexuiz
[16:59] <tekteen> MurielGodoi: type sudo apt-get install PACKAGES YOU WANT TO UPDATE
[17:00] <MurielGodoi> TimS: I have a GeForce Go 7600, and works fine here
[17:00] <sacrifice> any else ???
[17:00] <MurielGodoi> sacrifice: tremulous
[17:00] <TimS> Its a 7300 specific problem
[17:00] <MurielGodoi> tekteen: ok thanks
[17:00] <sacrifice> and.....
[17:00] <Asso> i can ask where are you from ?
[17:01] <jim_> Does anyone know if there is a kubuntu ptrace package available? I couldn't find one.
[17:01] <sacrifice> who ?? me ?? :-0
[17:01] <MurielGodoi> Asso: who?
[17:01] <Asso> in generall :-)))
[17:01] <MurielGodoi> MurielGodoi: I am from Brazil
[17:02] <timri> sacrifice: well, the ultimate in 3D linux gaming would in my opinion planet penguin racer
[17:02] <Asso> oi brasileiro ;-)
[17:02] <sacrifice> I prefer quake 3 than that you said ...
[17:03] <MurielGodoi> Asso: oi,  but lets keep your talk in english :)
[17:03] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[17:03] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[17:04] <timri> sacrifice: http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549
[17:04] <sacrifice> may I ask one question?? how much chinese is  talking here????
[17:04] <sacrifice> thanks
[17:04] <jagcorvair> !dma
[17:04] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[17:05] <jagcorvair> !dvd
[17:05] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[17:05] <jagcorvair> !medibuntu
[17:05] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[17:06] <COBHC> sudo apt-get apt-get -f install is install with force
[17:06] <Asso> a question :  what is the best graphic ftp server for kubuntu ?
[17:07] <ardchoille> Asso: Server or client?
[17:07]  * ardchoille is confused by "graphic server"
[17:07] <genii> no, -f is to fix broken deps
[17:07] <genii> --force-yes is usually to force
[17:08] <ardchoille> I've yet to see a need for forcing anything
[17:08] <Asso> SERVER
[17:08] <ardchoille> !ftp
[17:08] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[17:08] <jpatrick> !server
[17:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[17:08] <ardchoille> ty jpatrick
[17:08] <tekteen> !ftpd
[17:08] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[17:08] <jpatrick> np ardchoille
[17:09] <tekteen> !ftpd | Asso
[17:09] <ubotu> Asso: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[17:09] <COBHC> sorry, that is true :(
[17:09] <jim_> !ptrace
[17:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ptrace - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:09] <ardchoille> Asso: servers are command line, not graphical. That's why I asked when you said "graphical ftp server"
[17:10] <tekteen> Asso: u can use these Graphical front-ends
[17:10] <tekteen> like KcmPureftpd or PureAdmin
[17:10] <timri> Asso: KcmPureftpd is probably the one you are looking for
[17:10] <Asso> ok i try program for  KDE  ??
[17:10]  * tekteen is going to eat and will be back soon
[17:11] <timri> Asso: KcmPureftpd is a KDE program, yes
[17:12] <Asso> OK Thank you vewry much for the moment . .i go to try install this program  Byee see you later !!!
[17:12] <timri> Asso: bye
[17:15] <MurielGodoi> Which package I need to install to play mp4 h.264 movies?
[17:16] <fannagoganna> probably libx264
[17:16] <Asso> very sorry i'have install KcmPureftpd from adept manager  but i don't see the lunch icon in my MENU  :-((((
[17:16] <ardchoille> KcmPureftpd.. is that a kcmshell module?
[17:17] <ardchoille> KcmPureftpd is an KDE KControl module for configuring pure-ftpd FTP server.
[17:17] <ardchoille> I thought so
[17:18] <ardchoille> Asso: Are you looking for an ftp app, or an ftp server to serve files to the world?
[17:18] <Phantom> hi
[17:18] <Asso> ftp server . . .i want do an ftp server in my pc
[17:18] <timri> Asso: Use Alt+F2 to start kcontrol. KcmPureftpd will be in there
[17:19] <ardchoille> Asso: How long have you used Linux?
[17:19] <Asso> i use kubunto from 3 days
[17:20] <ardchoille> Asso: No offense, but I would recommend you learning a bit about Linux security, safety and administration before you go opening an ftp server to the world.
[17:20] <Phantom> I have wine up and running on 7.10 and have been able to run radmin viewer 3.0 on it.  How ever when I try to run Internet explorer on it all I get is white screen.  What am I missing ?
[17:21] <Asso> ummm yes but i want transfer some file . .i know is not secure . . i use than i close
[17:21] <Phantom> need t run IE because the yahoo radio music that I want to listen too wont play in firefox.
[17:21] <ardchoille> Asso: You want to install and use an ftp server to transfer one file and then close the ftp server?
[17:22] <Asso> yes :-)
[17:22] <ardchoille> Asso: Are you transfering this file to another server? If so, you do't need a full ftp server, you just need a client. kftpgrabber can do transfers
[17:23] <ardchoille> And it's a graphical app
[17:24] <MurielGodoi> fannagoganna: perfect! thanks
[17:24] <Asso> no i need server :-(  i transfer this file from a windows machine that is a client
[17:25] <ardchoille> Asso: You're transfering a file from a windows machine to a Linux machine on the same network?
[17:26] <Asso> yes but not in the same network , , ,from  work to house
[17:28] <rowan_> Asso: if you have ssh running on your linux box, you could use winscp to transfer the file across over ssh
[17:28] <Sp3c1alK> hey
[17:28] <rowan_> this is pretty secure and allows you to do the file transfer without having to set up an ftp server
[17:28] <Sp3c1alK> Hey, I have an Intel Quad Core, and I'm wondering if I should be using the AMD64 bit version of kubuntu?!
[17:28] <rowan_> winscp is a free download
[17:29] <Asso> yes but winscp is not very  slow ???
[17:29] <rowan_> no slower than any ftp client
[17:30] <rowan_> Sp3c1alK: um why?
[17:30] <Sp3c1alK> Hey, I have an Intel Quad Core, and I'm wondering if I should be using the AMD64 bit version of kubuntu?!
[17:30] <Asso> umm  ok   tnx !!!
[17:30] <genii> Sp3c1alK: Look up your cpu specs at intel and if under features it lists EMT64 then yes. Otherwise no
[17:31] <kaboom> All Quad Cores support EMT64
[17:31] <kaboom> At least the ones from Intel :-)
[17:31] <genii> Then yes
[17:31] <Sp3c1alK> Alright, well when I try to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu, I get the splash screen, and then choose install and i ge the loading kernel, but after that i get black screen
[17:31] <ScorpKing> hi genii. ;)
[17:32]  * genii slides ScorpKing a coffee
[17:32]  * ScorpKing takes a sip..
[17:32] <Sp3c1alK> any ideas?
[17:33] <MyNameIsURL> hey all
[17:33] <ScorpKing> genii: i still have that problem with dpkg. :(
[17:33] <MyNameIsURL> Happy T-Day
[17:33] <MyNameIsURL> Scorp, what are you doing?
[17:34] <ScorpKing> trying to fix a problem. :P
[17:34] <genii> Sp3c1alK: Maybe try some kernel options like noacpi or notsc or so on. Also if you have dual-head monitor perhaps see if video is defaulting to the other output
[17:34] <ScorpKing> lol. i'll pastebin
[17:34] <MyNameIsURL> I am having soke trouble with Compiz-Fusion
[17:34] <MyNameIsURL> *some*
[17:34] <genii> ScorpKing: OK. I'll be online on and off for another 5 hours anyhow, from work.
[17:35] <Tm_T> MyNameIsURL: #compiz-fusion ?
[17:35] <MyNameIsURL> my windows are all stuck and there are no buttons to minimize/maxmize/close, etc.
[17:35] <MyNameIsURL> um, OK
[17:35] <ScorpKing> genii: right. :) one sec..
[17:35] <Sp3c1alK> genii, i'm not sure how to do any of that
[17:36] <ardchoille> !compiz | MyNameIsURL
[17:36] <ubotu> MyNameIsURL: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:36] <holzmodem> hi, im searching for an kde/qt based php IDE with auto completition, is there something available?
[17:36] <Sp3c1alK> I am using a DVI monitor, and an 8800gtx
[17:37] <genii> Sp3c1alK: hit F5 key on cdrom boot menu. Add to the end of the line which loads the kernel whatever specific options you want to put, like noacpi    or   notsc   then hit enter
[17:37] <ScorpKing> bah. now the problem changed. "mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/run/cups/certs': No such file or directory" when running sudo aptitude upgrade on feisty.
[17:37] <genii> ScorpKing: dID YOU MESS WITH THE POSTINST FILE ATA LL?
[17:38] <genii> Bah sorry about capslock
[17:38] <ScorpKing> genii: nope. i went to bed.
[17:38] <Sp3c1alK> ALright I'll try it..bbs
[17:38] <tekteen> hey everybody
[17:38] <sstchur> Is there a font similar to "Arial Narrow" that is available on most Linux systems?
[17:38] <ScorpKing> greetings tekteen
[17:39] <genii> ScorpKing: Pls excuse lag, sorta eating lunch :)
[17:40] <ScorpKing> genii: no problem. i'm cooking. hehe
[17:40] <tekteen> I just ate
[17:40] <tekteen> no wonder no one is here
[17:41] <genii> tekteen: LOL yeah feeding time at the zoo
[17:41] <ScorpKing> haha
[17:41] <tekteen> yep
[17:43] <t3ch13> How do I enable compiz-fusion in Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon
[17:43] <tekteen> !compiz
[17:43] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:43] <genii> AFK a while, they are yelling for me even tho i'm officially on my lunch right now :/
[17:43] <tekteen> !compiz-fusion
[17:44] <tekteen> !compiz |  t3ch13
[17:44] <ubotu> t3ch13: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:46] <kreib> somethings wrong with the system, cpu usage is constantly at 98 %, firefox-bin is eating 21 %
[17:46] <tekteen> kreib: what firefox extensions do u have?
[17:46] <kreib> mediaplayerconnectivity only
[17:47] <tekteen> ok
[17:47] <kreib> process kicker is at 18 %
[17:48] <Sp3c1alK> genii: I tried both commands, both didn't do anything different
[17:48] <tekteen> no idea
[17:48] <Sp3c1alK> sorry
[17:49] <Sp3c1alK> I do get text at the bottom of the screen that says it's mapping something
[17:49] <Sp3c1alK> Is there a way I can view a log of some sort while it's booting?
[17:51] <Ayabara> Hey. I have installed Ubuntu on my new ASUS F3Sc, and I have a sound problem (I think). I have to turn the volume almost to max before it's enough to listen to music. My PCM level is on top.
[17:51] <ScorpKing> how can i reconfigure cups from apt?
[17:52] <stdin> ScorpKing: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys" ?
[17:53] <ScorpKing> thanks stdin :)
[17:54] <ScorpKing> i get - sudo: /etc/init.d/cupsys: command not found - when trying to start cups. apt shows that it is installed.
[17:55] <stdin> does ls ?
[17:55] <ScorpKing> yes.
[17:55] <ScorpKing> vi as well
[17:55] <stdin> is it +x thne?
[17:55] <stdin> then*
[17:55] <ScorpKing> looking..
[17:55] <ScorpKing> nope. finxing..
[17:56] <ScorpKing> bah. fixing*
[17:56] <stdin> it would be something simple :p
[17:57] <ScorpKing> stdin: thanks again. problem solved. :D "sudo chmod u+x"
[17:57] <stdin> yw :)
[18:05]  * tekteen says HAPPY THANKSGIVING
[18:06] <Tm_T> erm?
[18:06] <tekteen> what?
[18:06] <tekteen> why did u say erm?
[18:06] <Tm_T> tekteen: why all this yelling?
[18:07] <tekteen> why not?
[18:07] <tekteen> NO SCHOOL
[18:07] <Tm_T> tekteen: stop it
[18:07] <tekteen> ok
[18:08] <coreymon77> !caps | tekteen
[18:08] <ubotu> tekteen: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[18:08] <Tm_T> coreymon77: that was quite unneeded
[18:08] <coreymon77> Tm_T: sorry
[18:08] <Tm_T> no need to be sorry, just saying it
[18:09] <ardchoille> Technically, caps isn't shouting, using an exclamation point at the end of the sentence is shouting.
[18:10] <ardchoille> But, I digress
[18:13] <posingaspopular> hey all im installing gutsy on a new hard drive. i want to use the whole drive space but setup a seperate /home
[18:13] <posingaspopular> how do i do that?
[18:13] <stdin> select manual partitioning
[18:14] <tekteen> posingaspopular: also make sure you make a swap partition as well
[18:14] <jagcorvair> !dev
[18:14] <ubotu> Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[18:14] <posingaspopular> right thanks...
[18:15] <posingaspopular> i haven't installed ubunty since edgy
[18:15] <jagcorvair> Does anyone know how to fix the issue with choppy playback from DVDs? VLC works, but everything else is choppy
[18:16] <coreymon77> jagcorvair: use a regular dvd player? :P
[18:16] <coreymon77> just kidding
[18:17] <jagcorvair> coreymon77: :/
[18:18] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: and you have tested it how?
[18:19] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: I have followed everything under !dma !dvd and other forums, etc
[18:19] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: DMA doesn't seem to work
[18:19] <Tm_T> jagcorvair: thats it then
[18:19] <jagcorvair> ...?
[18:19] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: What's it?
[18:20] <Tm_T> without DMA it's hard to get non-choppy dvd playback
[18:20] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: Disable DMA?
[18:20] <Tm_T> you need it enabled
[18:21] <jagcorvair> Tm_T: Right, but it won't :( and it seems to be a bug that is being "ignored" across the board.
[18:21] <jagcorvair>  HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[18:21] <Tm_T> can't help, sorry
[18:22] <jagcorvair> How do I find the dev channel?
[18:22] <Tm_T> !irc | jagcorvair
[18:22] <ubotu> jagcorvair: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[18:22] <jagcorvair> dev's of K/Ubuntu
[18:23] <posingaspopular> got it. thanks all
[18:23] <stdin> #ubuntu-devel and #kubuntu-deval  (those are not support channels tho)
[18:23] <Tm_T> stdin: you repeat me
[18:24] <stdin> Tm_T: you repeat me
[18:24] <Aartix003> could someone plz just send me a link to a good kubuntu versoin for download?
[18:24] <stdin> :p
[18:24] <ardchoille> Aartix003: Which country?
[18:25] <stdin> !download
[18:25] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[18:25] <Aartix003> Norwegian
[18:25] <stdin> also has links to mirrors
[18:25] <stdin> like http://no.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/
[18:26] <Exilant> is there a way to disable dolphin and get konqui back as default file manager?
[18:26] <stdin> !dolphin | Exilant
[18:26] <ubotu> Exilant: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[18:26] <Exilant> thanks a lot
[18:27] <ardchoille> Aartix003: You get that link?
[18:28] <Aartix003> yeah
[18:28] <ardchoille> ok
[18:29] <Aartix003> the gutsy version a have now is totaly F**ked....   GParted + Emerald and more not functioning
[18:29] <ardchoille> Had a situation the other day where xorg wasn't working, the pm wasn't working, had no cli web browser installed, but wget worked great. So, I direct link to a kubuntu download was all the person could use.
[18:30] <Aartix003> okey.. thx anyway:)
[18:33] <TheFuzzball> Hello all
[18:33] <ardchoille> hi TheFuzzball
[18:33] <dwidmann> Hmm, anyone know much about getting laptop fn-key functions/media/buttons/stuff to work?
[18:35] <TheFuzzball> does anyone know why Gutsy wouldn't be able to mount a Data DVD that was made in K3b when a Windows computer can mount it?
[18:35] <new2kubuntu7> Hi i need help getting my wifi to work
[18:35] <stdin> dwidmann: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/128320 < I've had problems with that for a while
[18:36] <llp78> what can I do about my phone? it will not work (auto-mount) like in feisty i cant access the phone on this new version of kubuntu.. can i install some driver? i guess thats   the proplem?
[18:36] <tekteen> new2kubuntu7: are you using gutsy
[18:36] <new2kubuntu7> I need help getting my wifi card working its a Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (eth1)
[18:36] <new2kubuntu7> tekteen: yes
[18:36] <Exilant> new2kubuntu7: good luck
[18:36] <tekteen> new2kubuntu7: 64 bit
[18:36] <tekteen> ?
[18:37] <zarath> Hi, I seem to have problems with folders containing search results in Kmail (e.g. show all messages larger than 100k). These search folders get refreshed each time I switch to a new folder (e.g. when I switch from inbox to sent items). Sometimes the results of the search folders is accurate, other times it's lower than it should be (e.g. it shows 3 messages but there are actually 35 that meet the search criteria and should therefore be shown). Has
[18:37] <zarath> anyone come across this problem before? Any clues as to what might be the problem?
[18:37] <jhutchins> llp78: You should be able to find some documentation, maybe a sourceforge project page, for your phone.
[18:37] <dwidmann> stdin: worked fine in 2.6.22-10 IIRC... then failed spectacularly in -14. Running 2.6.24-rc3 right now, having better luck with it but I was just wondering if there was anything simple I could do about it
[18:37] <new2kubuntu7> tekteen: 86
[18:37] <stdin> new2kubuntu7: System Settings > Advanced > Restricted Drivers
[18:37] <tekteen> ok
[18:37] <llp78> jhutchins:  thanks ill have a look biab
[18:37] <nova> fresh install of kubuntu gutsy trying to use my old home directory getting error on open "call to lnusertemp failed (temporary directories full?) check your installation
[18:37] <Exilant> new2kubuntu7: tried that one too, didn't really work
[18:37] <tekteen> !restrited
[18:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restrited - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:37] <nova> any ideas?
[18:38] <tekteen> !restricted
[18:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:38] <stdin> dwidmann: yeah, seems something changed in how the kernel deals with those key events
[18:38] <tekteen> new2kubuntu7: what happened
[18:38] <new2kubuntu7> tekteen: xorg-driver-fglrx
[18:38] <new2kubuntu7> tekteen: i have to install that through adept 1 sec
[18:39] <tekteen> new2kubuntu7: wait
[18:39] <new2kubuntu7> tekteen: wat
[18:39] <tekteen> new2kubuntu7: have you tried the manager
[18:39] <new2kubuntu7> manager?
[18:39] <stdin> new2kubuntu7: System Settings > Advanced > Restricted Drivers
[18:39] <tekteen> ok ati for the graphics. nm
[18:40] <tekteen> you can get to system settings from the k menu (like start menu)
[18:40] <new2kubuntu7> tekteen, stdin: when i try to enable those restricted driver i get this: xorg-driver-fglrx
[18:40] <stdin> new2kubuntu7: yes, it installs and sets it up for you
[18:40] <tekteen> it should install it automatically.
[18:40] <new2kubuntu7> stdin: it says im missing this package! xorg-driver-fglrx
[18:41] <tekteen> do you have the repos set up right
[18:41] <stdin> new2kubuntu7: ahh, make sure you have all the repositories enabled.
[18:41] <dwidmann> stdin: funny thing is that xev reports the keycode and everything ... just pressing the buttons does nothing ... can't even set them as a shortcut
[18:41] <nova> fresh install of kubuntu gutsy trying to use my old home directory getting error on open "call to lnusertemp failed (temporary directories full?) check your installation
[18:41] <new2kubuntu7> tekteen, stdin, im new k please help me im use to ubuntu
[18:41] <nova> old home was on a fiesty install
[18:41] <tekteen> ok
[18:41] <stdin> new2kubuntu7: go to KMenu > System > Adept Manager, then Adept > Manage Repositories. make sure all the boxes are checked
[18:42] <ScorpKing> nova: run du -h in konsole
[18:42] <tekteen> stdin I will let u take over :-)
[18:42] <new2kubuntu7> stdin, thanks i new how to do that only on ubuntu lol
[18:42] <stdin> dwidmann: make sure that the key-codes are different with the fn key than without. when i press the fn+F? it's the same code as just F?
[18:43] <nova> hey ScorpKing what exactly am I looking for here, I know I have free disk space
[18:43] <dwidmann> hhmm, I'll have to check that stdin
[18:43] <ScorpKing> nova: just to make sure you have free space. ;)
[18:43] <nova> ah yeah I do
[18:43] <stdin> nova: especially in /tmp
[18:43] <fuzzy> is there a channel for K3b?
[18:43] <nova> I cleared tmp completely
[18:44] <dwidmann> stdin: reports a different keycode too
[18:44] <nova> that wasn't it
[18:44] <stdin> dwidmann: well that's better than mine then :p
[18:44] <posingaspopular> has anyone ever seen this error during a kubuntu gutsy install attempt; [Errno 5] Input/output error: '/rofs/usr/share/perl/5.8.8/Fatal.pm'
[18:44] <dwidmann> stdin: somehow that doesn't reassure me
[18:44] <stdin> new2kubuntu7: when adept finishes you should close it and go back to the restricted manager
[18:45] <ScorpKing> posingaspopular: maybe a bad disk. run dmesg and check for disk errors
[18:45] <nova> I've also verified permissions and ownership of directories, naming convention, etc
[18:45] <nova> all seems correct
[18:45] <stdin> posingaspopular: looks like a bad burn or scratched cd
[18:45] <Gedwey> hey anyone good whit steam\crossover and nvidia grafics card?
[18:45] <simi> hi, i need a kind of total uninstaller for an applications that i install in kubuntu, i mean i want to completly remove some apps
[18:46] <ScorpKing> simi: sudo aptitude purge <package>
[18:46] <ardchoille> simi: sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove packagename
[18:46] <stdin> simi: if you installed them with adept just use adept to remove them
[18:46] <posingaspopular> ah yea that's the error all right
[18:46] <simi> i want to remove some apps that  have their own installer
[18:47] <ScorpKing> like?
[18:47] <nova> wondering if it could have anything to do with user ID this is slightly different
[18:47] <nova> that's all I can think of but I don't see how that should matter
[18:47] <simi> i do not use  sudo when i install them so they let traces just in my home
[18:47] <ScorpKing> nova: it could be the problem.
[18:48] <posingaspopular> oh come on, it didn't install!
[18:48] <posingaspopular> lame
[18:48] <dwidmann> stdin: oh well, at least the brightness keys are working again .... and the kernel is tickless :)
[18:48] <simi> i need to trace where  the installer or the program writes
[18:48] <dthacker> posingaspopular: did you verify media?
[18:48] <rasmus> i've got some serious problems! I reeinstalled Kubuntu yesterday and now i get an error message when i try to install new programs. Bizarre enough is that some programs gets installed regardless of the errors
[18:48] <posingaspopular> umm i didn't burn the cd so no
[18:48] <Exilant> simi, well, maybe there is a nice "make uninstall", or, you could use checkinstall to create a package, and then use that filelist
[18:48] <stdin> dwidmann: it's strange here, after suspend/resume I get the media keys to work but that's it. some wonky kernel stuff happening :p
[18:50] <zarath> rasmus, what error messages?
[18:50] <posingaspopular> bbl, im going to get a different cd
[18:51] <Gedwey> noen som snakker norsk her
[18:51] <new2kubuntu7> I need help getting compiz-fusion on kubuntu 7.10
[18:51] <Gedwey> ?
[18:51] <rasmus> I'll translate it in a minute (i have my machine talking swedish you see ;-)
[18:51] <MurielGodoi> !compiz : new2kubuntu7
[18:51] <Gedwey> I rasmus
[18:51] <new2kubuntu7> !compiz
[18:51] <tekteen> !compiz | new2kubuntu7
[18:51] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:51] <ubotu> new2kubuntu7: please see above
[18:51] <Gedwey> rasmus kan du hjelpe meg?
[18:52] <simi> the truth is that i want to use a trial app more then 30 times but i can remove it completly and it knows that it was in my system another time, the only solution was to install it to an other user account
[18:52] <rasmus> Gedway jeg trur ikke det, jeg er ikke så flink på linux, men hvad er problemet ditt?
[18:53] <Ayabara> what do I need to make kaffeine play wmv files?
[18:53] <pag> !no | Gedwey
[18:53] <ubotu> Gedwey: Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[18:53] <ScorpKing> !w32codecs
[18:53] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[18:53] <ScorpKing> Ayabara: see there ^
[18:53] <Ayabara> ScorpKing, thanks
[18:53] <Exilant> new2kubuntu7: does your wlan card work?
[18:53] <new2kubuntu7> yes
[18:54] <new2kubuntu7> Exilant: yes
[18:54] <Exilant> wow
[18:54] <new2kubuntu7> Exilant: what
[18:54] <tekteen> I have not seen a wireless card that does not work on gutsy
[18:55] <stdin> and the restricted manager makes it really easy
[18:55] <new2kubuntu7> stdin: yes
[18:55] <lucentdream> if i want to run kde4-rc1, do i need to use the ppa.launchpad.net repository or is it enough using the gutsy-backports (as the announcement states that it's beeing uploaded there)?
[18:55] <TheFuzzball> !awn
[18:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:55] <stdin> lucentdream: it's not in backports yet
[18:55] <Exilant> my girlfriend's laptop has that card, tried to no avail with native drivers and ndiswrapper, albeit all from livecds
[18:55] <stdin> lucentdream: well, not all of it anyway
[18:56] <lucentdream> stdin: so i just have to be a bit more patient?
[18:56] <rasmus> Zarath! A wery free translation: "An error occured when the changes was about to get archived. A problem with the downloading of the package may have occured. Or the package would get damaged"
[18:56] <tekteen> Exilant: u tried restricted drivers
[18:56] <tekteen> ?
[18:56] <Exilant> new2kubuntu7: do you have a 64 bit pc?
[18:56] <Exilant> tekteen: doesn't work on the livecd
[18:56] <tekteen> ok
[18:57] <tekteen> it rarely does
[18:57] <Exilant> used fwcutter manually, though
[18:57] <stdin> lucentdream: yeah, they need to be build for hardy, then backported and built for gutsy. which is why we used my ppa, so you could use it without having to wait several days
[18:57] <TheFuzzball> please can someone tell me why I can't mount a DVD that I can in Windows?
[18:57] <tekteen> it worked with mine though
[18:57] <zarath> rasmus, that sounds like a problem associated with being behind a proxy or firewall.
[18:57] <TheFuzzball> It has all my backed up Music on it :'(
[18:57] <lucentdream> stdin: is there a timeframe on how long this will take?
[18:58] <rasmus> well, i haven't got the problem before
[18:58] <zarath> rasmus, some repositories do not allow connections from people behind proxies (hence the error message). You are likely to behind one if you are connected from a school/university/organisation...
[18:58] <rasmus> when i ran feisty
[18:58] <weenus> fuzzball: try mount /dev/cdrom0 /media/
[18:58] <lucentdream> stdin: or is it perfectly safe to use the repository? as a quick look revealed that there is a lot more than kde in there
[18:59] <zarath> rasmus, are you trying to install the same packages as before? different packages are in differnet repositorios, and different repositories have different rules re proxies.
[18:59] <rasmus> i'm at home. Connected trough a ISDN or ADSL, don't remember
[18:59] <stdin> lucentdream: no definite one, depends on how the builds go and what other package are building and how long those take, then how long it takes for the final debs to be uploaded to the archive (all very complicated)
[18:59] <rasmus> well, i can try som other ones to to see if it works.
[18:59] <stdin> lucentdream: you'll get a new version of konqueror and qt-curve, but other than that it's fine
[19:00] <lucentdream> stdin: allright.. i take your word ;-)
[19:00] <zarath> rasmus, does hte error have a number? e.g. error 405, error 403...?
[19:00] <rasmus> a strange thing is that opera said something like this but i'm able do run it
[19:00] <lucentdream> thank you
[19:00] <rasmus> i'll check for a number!
[19:00] <stdin> lucentdream: and I'll post some instructions somewhere on how to revert the packages when kde4 rc1 is in backports, so you can remove my ppa from your sources and have default packages
[19:00] <TheFuzzball> weenus: My CD drive is at scd1 and I've tried that
[19:01] <lucentdream> stdin: thanks again ;-)
[19:01] <rasmus> no number. The headline is something like: "Couldn't archive the changes"
[19:01] <Larson-h> is it possible to get normal kernel boot/shutdown console output instead of the kubuntu screen?
[19:01] <weenus> Fuzzball How do you know your cd drive is at scdl ?
[19:01] <lucentdream> stdin:  btw. this is "incoming" from your repository: gtk2-engines-qtcurve kde-style-qtcurve konversation libpoppler-dev libpoppler-glib2 libpoppler-qt-dev libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler-qt4-2 libpoppler-qt4-dev libpoppler2 libsearchclient0 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libstrigihtmlgui0 poppler-utils qtcurve strigi-daemon
[19:02] <genii> Larson-h: Remove kernel options splash and quiet from the default grub entry
[19:02] <TheFuzzball> weenus: because I have mounted disks with terminal before
[19:02] <stdin> lucentdream: yeah, everything except konversation and qt-curve is needed for the kde4 packages
[19:02] <lucentdream> so also konversation bump ;)
[19:02] <lucentdream> yeah sure
[19:02] <Larson-h> genii: thank you!
[19:02] <TheFuzzball> weenus: and I have 2 Disk drives, one at scd0 and one at scd1
[19:02]  * genii sneaks away from box-crushing duties to sip a coffee
[19:03] <weenus> Then it might be a hardware problem, Have you checked the cables?
[19:03] <stdin> lucentdream: those other packages are going to be in -backports too
[19:03] <lucentdream> qtcurve is fine too.. i'm using it here ;-)
[19:03] <weenus> and the power connector?
[19:03] <TheFuzzball> weenus: first drive is in a laptop and the other connected through USB
[19:04] <stdin> lucentdream: the version in the repos is 0.52.3, I have 0.54.0 :)
[19:04] <TheFuzzball> weenus: I am running sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/disk/ and it's still not completed the command
[19:04] <rasmus> no, the problem occur even when i try to download something i installed fine before i updated
[19:04] <weenus> maybe it's already mounted
[19:05] <mike-kubuntu> hey guys, i'm trying to compile wine and with ./configure it says my c compiler cannot create executables
[19:05] <TheFuzzball> weenus: it's not
[19:05] <mike-kubuntu> and bugs out with an error
[19:05] <stdin> mike-kubuntu: why are you trying to compile wine??
[19:05] <TheFuzzball> weenus: it would say it was already mounted
[19:05] <Exilant> mike-kubuntu: maybe it can't?
[19:05] <mike-kubuntu> stdin: doing regression testing trying to hunt down which patch broke soul reaver 2 in wine for me
[19:05] <weenus> I hate to say this but try rebooting then try it.
[19:05] <mike-kubuntu> what should i do to get past the error, it probably cant since i'm in linux, not windows
[19:06] <TheFuzzball> weenus: lol, have done :)
[19:06] <TheFuzzball> weenus:  I've tried everything :'(
[19:06] <Exilant> mike-kubuntu: if you are sure your compiler is working, look at configure and search for the error
[19:06] <stdin> mike-kubuntu: best way then is "sudo apt-get install build-essential" and then "sudo apt-get build-dep wine"
[19:06] <stdin> mike-kubuntu: then it should compile fime
[19:06] <TheFuzzball> weenus: but when I put the disk in my dad's windows computer it mounts the DVD no problem
[19:06] <stdin> Exilant: it's because he didn't have build-essential installed
[19:07] <ubuntu_> hola
[19:07] <weenus> Is this a dual boot? Try booting into windows and see if it does the same thing.
[19:07] <TheFuzzball> weenus: I don't have a dual boot
[19:07] <ScorpKing> TheFuzzball: make an iso image from it and mount it then
[19:08] <ubuntu_> espanlon please
[19:08] <mike-kubuntu> stdin: thanks
[19:08] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing: how?
[19:08] <rasmus> Zarath! Could it possibly be a proxy/firewall problem?
[19:08] <zarath> rasmus, not sure what the problem might be. Have you googled up the error message in the original language?
[19:08] <JackWinter> what is the script called that runs when i log in?
[19:08] <rasmus> yes, i've only got to the transaltion of the problem.
[19:08] <ScorpKing> TheFuzzball: dd if=/dev/<cdromdevice> of=mydvd.iso
[19:09] <ScorpKing> !iso | TheFuzzball:
[19:09] <ubotu> TheFuzzball:: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[19:09] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing: I'll try, and btw after 5 minutes of mounting it returned
[19:09] <TheFuzzball> mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[19:09] <TheFuzzball> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[19:09] <zarath> rasmus, you can check your system log for blocked traffic when you try to download the packages.
[19:09] <rasmus> wait, i'll see if i can find the english original message
[19:09] <ScorpKing> TheFuzzball: what is the command you typed to mount it?
[19:09] <rasmus> how?
[19:09] <zarath> rasmus, do you use kde?
[19:09] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing:  sudo mount /dev/scd1 /media/disk/
[19:10] <lucentdream> stdin: another shot: installation went fine - but do you know why the active item in the main menu bar of kde4 apps is not highlighted?
[19:10] <rasmus> yes, KDE
[19:10] <rasmus> Original message: here was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages
[19:10] <zarath> rasmus, then open ksystemlog (e.g. by typing ksystemlog in your console)
[19:10] <stdin> lucentdream: because kde4 is still buggy
[19:10] <ScorpKing> TheFuzzball: weird.. it should work like that. anyway, try the iso way
[19:11] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing: will do
[19:11] <lucentdream> stdin: ok.. so it's a kde4 bug and not some setting thingy?!
[19:11] <stdin> lucentdream: (that's probably the answer to just about every kde4 question) #kde4-devel is the best place for support
[19:11] <lucentdream> ok ;)
[19:11] <zarath> rasmus, what are you using for the instalation? apt-get? adept?
[19:11] <lucentdream> maybe i go for kde4 qtcurve for now ;-)
[19:11] <zarath> rasmus, and what are you trying to install?
[19:11] <weenus> Fuzball: What do you see when you just type "mount"?
[19:12] <rasmus> adept installation, trying to install a rar-program
[19:12] <TheFuzzball> weenus: pastebin?
[19:12] <rasmus> but the problem remains for other programs
[19:12] <weenus> does it show any of the cdroms mounted?
[19:12] <TheFuzzball> weenus: http://pastebin.com/m6b2016bf
[19:13] <TheFuzzball> weenus: and no
[19:13] <zarath> rasmus, when you click on the components you want to install, do you get a message by the name of the packet saying there is a conflict or dependencies would get broken?
[19:13] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing: http://pastebin.com/d73ac01b
[19:13] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing: it didn't work
[19:13] <rasmus> now, i don't. Everything works fine in the beginning
[19:14] <zarath> rasmus, try using the console. type: sudo apt-get install [name of the package]
[19:14] <ScorpKing> TheFuzzball: try sudo
[19:14] <weenus> Fuzball: That's neat
[19:14] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing: what do you think the "[sudo] password for fuzzy:" part was for :p
[19:15] <rasmus> ok, i'll try! Thanx for the help by the way, indeed kind of you!
[19:15] <new2kubuntu7> Hi can anybody help me get a plugin for kaffeine that lets me play .mpg videos, .wav , etc
[19:15] <ScorpKing> TheFuzzball: lol. did not see that.
[19:15]  * ScorpKing hides..
[19:15] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing:  :)
[19:15] <mike-kubuntu> getting an error compiling wine
[19:16] <zarath> new2kubuntu7, you don't need plugins, you need to install the proprietary drivers
[19:16] <ScorpKing> TheFuzzball: maube something wrong with the disk or the drive
[19:16] <Exilant> mike-kubuntu: which one?
[19:16] <mike-kubuntu> {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:38: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `push' and {standard input}:46: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `pop'
[19:16] <lucentdream> kde4-qtcurve works fine.. so i can run kde4 dolphin with "perfect" (kde3) desktop integration now ;-)
[19:16] <new2kubuntu7> zarath: how do i do that
[19:17] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing: Neither of those, I can mount the disk on my Dad's windows computer and play the contents and I just tried another DVD :(
[19:17] <Exilant> mike-kubuntu: sounds evil
[19:17] <ScorpKing> TheFuzzball: with the same dvd-rom you use now in your box?
[19:17] <zarath> the easiest way is to download automatix and select the components you want to install
[19:17] <mike-kubuntu> exilant: lol, thanks
[19:17] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing: I don't understant
[19:18] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing: Understand*
[19:18] <ScorpKing> TheFuzzball: the thing where you put the dvd into. that might be dirty or broken
[19:18] <new2kubuntu7> zarath: this can be downloaded in adept?
[19:19] <zarath> new2kubuntu7, yes
[19:19] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing: It's not, I just tested another DVD in it and it mounted fine
[19:19] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing: and I also tried to mount the DVD with my burner
[19:19] <Exilant> mike-kubuntu: really no clue what could have happened, maybe the assembler is not properly installed or configure detected your system wrong.
[19:19] <ScorpKing> TheFuzzball: it can be the filesystem that was used to create the disk in windows.
[19:20] <rasmus> zarath! I managed to do it that way. The console was asking me something that i didn't really botherd to understand fully, and then every thing seems to work fine
[19:20] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing: I created the Disk with K3b
[19:20] <zarath> rasmus, great news
[19:20] <rasmus> i've tried to install other programs with adept installation and it works
[19:20] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing: the only thing I can think of is the name of the Disk
[19:20] <rasmus> Thank you very very much. If i knew you, i vould spend you a beer (or an ice cream if you prefer ;-)
[19:20] <weenus> Fuzzball: I don't see why this doesn't work: sudo  mount /dev/scd1 /media/
[19:20] <ScorpKing> TheFuzzball: i know there is one mode that can only be used on windows (k3b will warn but not stop you)
[19:20] <zarath> rasmus, sounds like you just needed to purge a broken package
[19:21] <new2kubuntu7> zarath: its not showing up
[19:21] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing: could it be something to do with the names?
[19:21] <ScorpKing> TheFuzzball: yes
[19:22] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing: is there no way to mount it other than windows then?
[19:22] <new2kubuntu7> zarath: automatix is not showing up
[19:22] <ScorpKing> it does not look that way.
[19:22]  * TheFuzzball *Cries*
[19:22] <alejho> ciaoooo
[19:22] <LjL> zarath, automatix can't be downloaded from adept. new2kubuntu7, don't use automatix.
[19:22] <LjL> !automatix
[19:22] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[19:23] <zarath> new2kubuntu7, i forgot that you need to add  the repositories to your list.
[19:23] <LjL> !codecs > new2kubuntu7    (new2kubuntu7, see the private message from Ubotu) use this to play media files
[19:23] <LjL> !medibuntu > new2kubuntu7    (new2kubuntu7, see the private message from Ubotu)
[19:23] <Ayabara> where can I find the fonts on my system?
[19:23] <ScorpKing> TheFuzzball: put in in windows and copy it on cd's or something
[19:23] <zarath> !automatix
[19:23] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[19:23] <TheFuzzball> ScorpKing: I know, I'll have to burn then all again which is a pain in the arse
[19:24]  * ScorpKing pass TheFuzzball some painkillers..
[19:24] <TheFuzzball> thanks :)
[19:25] <ScorpKing> yw
[19:27] <simi> the truth is that i want to use a trial app more then 30 times but i can remove it completly and it knows that it was in my system another time, the only solution was to install it to an other user account
[19:27] <weenus> Hey Anybody! Is there a Interactive startup mode for Kubuntu like there is for Redhat (you press the I key) I just installed the ATI restricted driver and I have a feeling that I am in for some trouble when I restart!
[19:28] <new2kubuntu7> LjL, THANKS!
[19:29] <ScorpKing> simi: can i pm jou?
[19:30] <simi> yes
[19:30] <weenus> come on Kubuntu gurus. how do you do interactive startup? I can't find anything for Ubuntu on this either.
[19:30] <new2kubuntu7> how do i end a process
[19:30] <simi> i am not register
[19:31] <weenus> new2: killall name of process
[19:31] <Tm_T> weenus: what you mean by interactive?
[19:31] <Tm_T> weenus: you mean you like to see something too?
[19:31] <new2kubuntu7> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude).
[19:31] <new2kubuntu7> Would you like to attempt to resolve this problem? No will enter read-only mode and Cancel to quit and resolve this issue yourself.
[19:31] <new2kubuntu7> ohh ya sorry
[19:31] <new2kubuntu7> !pastebin
[19:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[19:31] <Tm_T> weenus: hit F2 and remove quiet?
[19:32] <ioan> weenus i installed restricted nvidia drivers and no trouble
[19:32] <new2kubuntu7> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45490/ : Can anybody help me fix this
[19:32] <cressy1> Hi, I have finally taken the plunge and have kubuntu up and running. Still have a feew things to work out but I know I'll get it  ;)
[19:32] <weenus> Tm_T  It loads drivers and service one by one in response to yes and no answers
[19:33] <Tm_T> ah
[19:33] <Tm_T> that prolly would need more interesting kernel parameters
[19:33] <Tm_T> and that I do not know
[19:33] <weenus> Tm_T then you can choose not to load the one causing the problem.
[19:33] <seezer> weenus: use the "failsafe" bootoption to boot into single mode and start the daemons by running /etc/rc2.d/* one by one
[19:33] <LjL> new2kubuntu7, are you sure you don't have another Adept or some other APT application open?
[19:33] <new2kubuntu7> LjL: nope
[19:33] <LjL> well then if you're sure
[19:34] <LjL> !adept crash fix | new2kubuntu7
[19:34] <ubotu> new2kubuntu7: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[19:34] <Esteth> Can i follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php safely, without breaking existing gnome or kde3.5?
[19:34] <ScorpKing> simi: did you get it?
[19:34] <simi> yes
[19:34] <LjL> Esteth: if you follow them carefully. you could always create a new user, to make sure you don't mess up your normal user's settings
[19:34] <weenus> thant seezer that sounds like a move in the right direction, but do you have to manually start each deamon doing that?
[19:34] <simi> i am not registred
[19:34] <simi> so i cant write
[19:34] <new2kubuntu7> LjL: thanks
[19:35] <wraund> help me. I used to be able to hold backspace and it would erase all my stuff constantly, now i have to kep on tapping it to erase things, what do i do oh kubuntu gurus?
[19:35] <simi> thx
[19:35] <Esteth> LjL: New user sounds like a good plan. How do i go about doing that in ubuntu?
[19:35] <ScorpKing> simi: oh ok. you're welcome. :)
[19:35] <simi> but i am afraid that it can edit some existing files
[19:35] <LjL> !adduser | Esteth
[19:35] <ubotu> Esteth: To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
[19:35] <seezer> weenus: right. there are only "two" runlevels in (k)ubuntu/debian. single mode and "full system"
[19:36] <seezer> weenus: but you can see the correct order via `ls -1 /etc/rc2.d/`
[19:36] <ScorpKing> simi: try that first but that's the only way to find out as far as i know
[19:37] <simi> how can i register from konversation?
[19:37] <weenus> seezer: thanks for the info I was thinking of changing my server over to Ubuntu, but because of that I won't that interactive startup has saved my rearend many a time when I have messed things up.
[19:37] <new2kubuntu7> LjL: when i try to install kubuntu-restricted-extra's i get this: http://pastebin.com/m6772428a
[19:37] <Esteth> LjL: Right. I've created my new user. Should i log in to KDE 3.5 with that user before following the instructions?
[19:37] <seezer> weenus: what distro are you using right now?
[19:38] <weenus> on the server I'm still on  fedora2
[19:38] <LjL> new2kubuntu7, i'm not sure. try doing it with apt-get (sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras), it will probably give an error message that's more meaningful to us
[19:38] <LjL> Esteth: yeah
[19:38] <ScorpKing> simi: type /msg nickserv REGISTER <password> i think
[19:38] <LjL> !register
[19:38] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[19:38] <Esteth> LjL: Thanks a lot :) If i have any more problems, i'll be back here in a few minuites :)
[19:39] <LjL> i have to go away for dinner now though
[19:40] <new2kubuntu7> Ljl: i get this now http://pastebin.com/m21200bb4
[19:40] <new2kubuntu7> LjL: i get this http://pastebin.com/m21200bb4
[19:40] <ScorpKing> new2kubuntu7: he is away
[19:40] <new2kubuntu7> Scorpking: dang it
[19:41] <ScorpKing> nite guys! have fun!
[19:41] <seezer> weenus: i know it from my times with suse. perhaps it's possible in ubuntu too - but i didn't need it the last 2-3 years. so..
[19:41] <new2kubuntu7> Uhh does anybody know how to install a driver that lets me watch mpg , .wav files for videos
[19:41] <LjL> new2kubuntu7: make sure you have universe and multiverse enabled, and also have them enabled for gutsy-security and gutsy-updates. other people will be able to guide you through that, probably. i really have to go. some instructions should also be at
[19:41] <LjL> !repos
[19:41] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[19:42] <weenus> seezer:  You mean to use the method of troubleshooting start up you told me about?
[19:43] <seezer> weenus: i mean that solution is/was good enough to handle all problems i ran into the last years
[19:44] <seezer> (with debian, but same "problem" there)
[19:45] <matttis> Why doesn't KDE system setting allow correct refresh rates for my screen ?
[19:45] <weenus> seezer:  Kubuntu Gutzy
[19:46] <matttis> It doesn't show the ones of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:47] <weenus> seezer: Stick with me a minute. I tried ls -1 /etc/rc2.d/ How do I prevent something from autostarting if  i think it is caussing trouble.
[19:49] <seezer> weenus: rm /etc/rc2.d/S50ssh would disable the automatic start of opensshd
[19:49] <underdog5004> Is there anyway for sshfs to follow symlinks when it mounts a dir? I've got a dir where half the files are symlinks to files on a different drive...
[19:49] <seezer> you could use KMenu->SystemSettings->Advanced->SystemServices too
[19:51] <weenus> seezer: that you permenently remove it. I mean temporaily for troubleshooting.
[19:53] <seezer> weenus: it's just a symlink. just create the link again whenever you finished troubleshooting.
[19:53] <seezer> weenus: or klick another button in the gui
[19:54] <seezer> it's ok for me. perhaps it's not for you. but hey - free world we have. kinda.. :)
[19:54] <weenus> seezer: Let's say I can't get the gui after I restart with the restricted ati driver. How do I stop that from loading. I haven't found it yet under any of the /etc/rc directories.
[19:55] <weenus> lspci returns:
[19:55] <weenus> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]
[19:55] <weenus> 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE]
[19:55] <seezer> weenus: just change the xorg driver back to "vesa" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[19:56] <seezer> (which server needs a opengl-gui anyway ;) )
[19:58] <weenus> seezer: You're right. That's what I have done in the past. I'm going to try rebooting hopefully I will see you on the other side.
[19:59] <seezer> ;)
[19:59] <matttis> What can I do, if KDE system settings ignores my /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[20:00] <matttis> or is another settings file the one for KDE ?
[20:00] <seezer> matttis: did you select a monitor in systemsettings>hardware?
[20:01] <seezer> after hitting "administrator mode.." you should be able to configure monitor #1
[20:01] <seezer> but this menu is my personal enemy too..
[20:02] <matttis> Seezer: I did choose one which is nearly right
[20:03] <matttis> but even though the values in xorg.conf are different those
[20:04] <seezer> i tried nvidia-settings some days ago. that one seems quite better. but i have to say, i'm glad i have no Hz problems anymore.. those crts are gone in my house.. ;)
[20:04] <lucentdream> hello, can someone confirm/disprove that konsole4 (rc1) is *very* sluggish? (e.g. compare "time cat /var/log/messages" to konsole3 times or run mc and scroll around)
[20:06] <lucentdream> even more with a bitmap font like terminus
[20:06] <JackWinter> what keys do i press to see boot up messages ?
[20:07] <Larson-h> after changing to the nvidia driver my fonts are MUCH bigger, I found out kdm is responsible (If I kill X and run startx only the fonts are fine)... any known solution?
[20:07] <lucentdream> stdin: ^^ could you please test this and tell your result here or in #kde4-devel ..
[20:08] <lucentdream> Larson-h: it's because the nvidia driver tells the right dpi settings
[20:08] <lucentdream> Larson-h: either force them in xorg.conf or simply set them with the system settings (fonts => force dpi or something alike)
[20:08] <seezer> JackWinter: at the grub menu press 'e' on your boot option, scroll to the "kernel" line and remove the word "quiet" at the end. then press "b" for boot.
[20:09] <Larson-h> lucentdream: ok. But why the difference when using kdm and when not?
[20:09] <stdin> lucentdream: seems fine here
[20:09] <lucentdream> stdin: any idea why this might happen here?
[20:10] <Thylio> How do i get accses to my hdd? I dont have write accses.
[20:10] <stdin> lucentdream: maybe with compositing it's slower, not sure
[20:10] <JackWinter> thanks seezer!
[20:12] <seezer> JackWinter: if you want it to be default - edit the "#kopt " line in /boot/grub/menu.lst and run `update-grub`
[20:12] <lucentdream> stdin: but i have factor of 28 compared to konsole3 :( .. (nvidia binary drivers with default xorg.conf)
[20:13] <Thylio> How do i get accses to my hdd? I dont have write accses.
[20:14] <new2kubuntu7> can somebody help me install compiz and emerald on kubuntu 7.10
[20:15] <Larson-h> lucentdream: thanks.. let me try this :)
[20:17] <Thylio> How do i get accses to my hdd? I dont have write accses.
[20:29] <Tech-Mike> sup peeps, how can i check what driver my usb network adapter is using? i think it was using rt73usb, but i blacklisted that in order to use rt2500usb (with ndiswrapper) but still cant get connected
[20:29] <matttis> seezer: well, kde twits me. I choose a diffent monitor, choose a higher refresh rate, restarted kde, and now the old values are back (but the monitor is the same)
[20:31] <seezer> matttis: *g* sorry - i guess i know more about the next lottery results than about the "sane behaviour mechanism" of that part of systemsettings
[20:31] <matttis> hmm
[20:31] <matttis> has anyone else an idea ?
[20:31] <seezer> my way: reset xorg.conf - modify by hand - never ever touch "admin mode" in the monitor section
[20:32] <matttis> maybe it has something to do with first installing ubuntu and than upgrading to kubuntu
[20:33] <weenus2> seezer I'm back. Of course that computer I was telling about wouldn't reboot properly. It used to run beryl great with fiesty. I donno what the problem is.
[20:33] <Tech-Mike> ...aybody read my question?
[20:34] <weenus2> That was back at my office and now I'll worry about that later. It's thanksgiving.
[20:34] <matttis> Tech-Mike: sorry, no idea. Maybe grep dmesg or something like that
[20:35] <Tech-Mike> its weird that ubuntu used the rt2500usb driver correctly and kubuntu isnt
[20:35] <matttis2> hi
[20:35] <seezer> weenus2: i'm sorry. have to invest my last minutes/hours for today in learning.. see you tomorrow and gn8 for today.
[20:35] <matttis2> d'oh
[20:37] <matttis> bye
[20:37] <weenus2> seezer: I'll be back. This is one of the first irc channels that I have found that will be of ongoing use to me. I am deeply committed to all *buntus on the desktop.
[20:38] <Tech-Mike> ...instead of using knetworkcontrol ... what commands do i need to enter with iwconfig to connect , i think i know most of it - just not the wep key
[20:38] <genii> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "yadda"                  etc etc    man iwconfig for more
[20:40] <Larson-h> the DPI trick worked nicely... now last question: I only get about 50% of the "correct" performance using my wireless (iwl4965). I tried the disable ipv6 trick with no results. Any other ideas?
[20:42] <niko_> hi to all
[20:42] <niko_> italian channel?
[20:43] <Larson-h> niko_: not really :)
[20:43] <Tm_T> !it | niko_
[20:43] <ubotu> niko_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:43] <Thylio> How do i get accses to my hdd? I dont have write accses.
[20:43] <niko_> or... someone can help me in reading/writing a ntfs usb mass storage drive?
[20:43] <matttis> How or where can I change the kdm settings
[20:44] <matttis> It seems that kdm does the mess
[20:44] <simi> hi, how can i create users in kubuntu? i used ubuntu before and there is an application that makes this thing
[20:45] <matttis> simi: in the kde system settings
[20:45] <Exilant> well, there's adduser
[20:45] <Exilant> theres also some kde stuff
[20:46] <ardchoille> simi: kdesudo kcmshell userconfig
[20:46] <matttis> better not use the kde stuff...
[20:48] <genii> simi: Also kmenu ..system settings ...user management    but as mattis suggests, better to use command line since is same on all *buntu
[20:51] <simi> thx, i made it
[20:53] <simi> can anyoane tell me  how to run some commands at boot time, i have a dial up connection and i must run a script manualy every time and also some errors appears at boot time that it can't start the connection
[20:55] <genii> simi: Don't set the dialup modem to be a network connection which it keeps wanting to start every boot. instead use kppp to dial out
[20:56] <Thylio> How do i get accses to my hdd? I dont have write accses.
[20:56] <pemphigus> !permissions | Thylio
[20:56] <ubotu> Thylio: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[20:58] <justin__> how do i make  the name of a folder all UPPERCASE? anytime i try it just changes it. wtf>
[20:59] <timri> justin__: Try chaning it first to a different name, then to your all uppercase one.
[20:59] <timri> changing
[20:59] <CelticSoul> hi guys, how do I boot up the LiveCD in text mode to install
[21:00] <justin__> i tried that, but it automatically changes it back t lowercase
[21:00] <CelticSoul> safe graphic mode does not work for me
[21:00] <justin__> it's a really stupid feature
[21:00] <timri> justin__: Curious. Perhaps a dolphin feature
[21:00] <justin__> i
[21:00] <timri> CelticSoul: You'll need to download the alterate installer
[21:00] <ardchoille> timri: I would consider that a bug
[21:00] <genii> CelticSoul: alternate install cd
[21:01] <justin__> i'll try konqueror
[21:01] <CelticSoul> ok, i'll try it then
[21:02] <tex> hi guys
[21:02] <justin__> yea.. it does it in that too.
[21:02] <tex> sorry someone that can help me to configure audio?
[21:02] <timri> justin__: On a FAT partition?
[21:02] <tex> I'm getting crazy!!
[21:03] <ardchoille> !sound | tex
[21:03] <ubotu> tex: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:03] <justin__> yea vfat
[21:03] <justin__> on my flash driver
[21:03] <justin__> *drive
[21:03] <Boohbah> hi, how can i get kftpgrabber to use SSL on the data channel?
[21:04] <timri> justin__: In that case, i don't know a workaround. On "linux" filesystems konqueror works fine here , sorry
[21:04] <JackWinter> hiya, how do i setup konqeror to always display the favorites toolbar?
[21:04] <timri> JackWinter: Save your profile
[21:05] <timri> JackWinter: Settings, Save View profile
[21:06] <justin__> i would just reformat it, but i'm trying to apply an update to my ps3, and i doubt that it recognizes linux file systems.
[21:06] <justin__> the damn firmware updates are almost weekly
[21:07] <simi> genii: i  do not set up my modem like that i have no choice because is not a popular modem so i do not have support for it, i just find this scripts that works
[21:08] <JackWinter> thanks guys, works a treat!
[21:08] <genii> simi: Add the script then to /etc/rc.local
[21:11] <simi> genii: i have to just run this script with sudo from terminal, how can i put my pass there, or i do not need to do that, i need to run a command with sudo
[21:12] <genii> simi: If you just put the path to the script there it will execute in sudo/root mode by default
[21:12] <simi> genii:thx
[21:14] <Thylio> How do i get accses to my hdd? I dont have write accses.
[21:15] <matttis2> Thylio: /dev/hdd or harddisk ?
[21:16] <genii> Thylio: More specific information would aid us. Internal/external hard drive? What filesystem is on it? etc
[21:17] <genii> What does the file /etc/fstab say about the drive? what does the command  sudo fdisk -l say about the drive? and so on
[21:17] <tex_> sorry guys how can I find the name of module of my soundcard
[21:17] <tex_> I mean snd-?
[21:18] <genii> tex_: You mean an already loaded module or one which you want to use for the hardware you have, etc?
[21:19] <genii> Hmm. Impatient ppl
[21:21] <Azzco> Hi I need to remove a few symbolic links... Can konqueror sort out symbolic links someway or do I need to pick them all by hand?
[21:22] <Azzco> Or dolphin pherhaps?
[21:23] <tex_> sorry guys
[21:23] <tex_> any expert in sound configuration please?
[21:23] <ardchoille> Azzco: You could use find to remove all links in a directory
[21:23] <Azzco> find?
[21:23] <Azzco> Ctrl+f?
[21:23] <tex_> I tried the troubleshooting of kubuntu but nothing to do
[21:24] <Thylio> Genii. It's a internal hardisk that i have newley formated/paritioned/mounted. When i try to paste a file to it, i don't have accses
[21:24] <ardchoille> Azzco: no, something like:  find . -type l | while read f; do echo $f; done
[21:25] <ardchoille> Azzco: If that works to your needs, simply replace the "read $f" with rm $f
[21:25] <Pocris> hola a todos
[21:26] <ardchoille> !es
[21:26] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[21:26] <Azzco> Thanks ardchoille
[21:26] <ardchoille> Azzco: yw
[21:28] <vergi> how can i make ls command to list the hidden files?
[21:28] <stdin> vergi: -A
[21:28] <leo_rockw> hello, i have a problem with amarok. it won't let me select alsa as the xine output plugin. in the dropdown list i only get "autodetect" and "esd". how can i tell xine to use alsa?
[21:29] <cox_> does anyone know the link to the website where u can download an installer thats abouyt 9mb then download the rest of the dist via symatic
[21:29] <vergi> can ls command display details like size and modify date
[21:29] <leo_rockw> vergi: ls -l
[21:29] <stdin> vergi: -l
[21:29] <new2kubuntu7> hi i need help installing comiz and emerald theme manager
[21:30] <stdin> new2kubuntu7: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[21:32] <vergi> thx, but how can i apply the command  for the sufolders ? ii know it can be done , i want to list all the files in a folder including subfolders and the detals
[21:33] <jtt> vergi  find .  -ls
[21:33] <new2kubuntu7> stdin: did u install compiz fusion on kubuntu yourself?
[21:33] <stdin> new2kubuntu7: I have, but I don't use it
[21:34] <stdin> vergi: or just add -R
[21:34] <stdin> vergi: see "man ls" for all the options
[21:34] <new2kubuntu7> stdin: when i go to set the options it doesnt work, example all the effects on my ccsm manager dont work it just doesnt anable anything!
[21:35] <Thylio> Genii. It's a internal hardisk that i have newley formated/paritioned/mounted. When i try to paste a file to it, i don't have accses
[21:35] <new2kubuntu7> stdin: it doesnt even show the example pics or the effect in ccsm
[21:35] <stdin> new2kubuntu7: you'll have to ask about that in #compiz-fusion  it's not officially supported in kubuntu
[21:40] <tex_> SORRY AGAIN GUYS...ANYONE ABLE TO HELP ME IN SOUND CONFIGURATION?
[21:42] <sybux> Hi all
[21:42] <tex_> nothing to do...I't very strange for a channel called Official Kubuntu support channel...
[21:43] <sybux> I've got a really simple problem. I'd like to change my runlevel to 3 (don't want X on my poor laptop) but I can't find the inittab as used before
[21:44] <Exilant> no x? not perhaps twm or something like that?
[21:44] <tex_> sybux this is a fucking server because nobody helps nobody...
[21:44] <stdin> tex_: watch the language
[21:44] <stdin> !patience | tex_
[21:44] <ubotu> tex_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[21:45] <underdog5004> does firefox depend of gnome libs?
[21:45] <stdin> sybux: the only runlevels that don't run X are s and 1. and inittab is used in the old init systsm, the new one (upstart) doesn't use it by default
[21:45] <sybux> stdin: ok but where is it so that I can change it
[21:45] <stdin> sybux: if you just want to start with no X then use "sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove"
[21:46] <stdin> sybux: then you can still do "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start" if you want to start it sometime
[21:46] <stdin> underdog5004: it depends on the GTK library
[21:47] <sybux> stdin: ok I can accept your answer but I still want to search a way to change the runlevel
[21:47] <underdog5004> oh
[21:47] <stdin> sybux: there is one, it's with /etc/event.d/rc-default
[21:48] <tex_> stdin : There is another way or channel to getting helps?
[21:48] <tex_> there is another way in general?
[21:48] <stdin> sybux: also have a look at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[21:48] <sybux> stdin: thx for help
[21:48] <stdin> tex_: there are the forums and there is #ubuntu if it's not kde specific
[21:49] <tex_> stdin : thanks
[22:00] <nikk> !compiz
[22:00] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:02] <blizzzek> bye
[22:05] <josei> hola
[22:05] <josei> hay alguien
[22:05] <stdin> !es
[22:05] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[22:06] <josei> stdin demasiado novato
[22:06] <josei> para saber abrir canales
[22:06] <WaltzingAlong> !en
[22:06] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[22:07] <leo_rockw> josei: escribe /join #kubuntu-es
[22:08] <Aranel> i know this is a bit noobish question, but I need help about adding commands to startup. I need use 'sudo swapon /dev/sdb3' in boot, how can i do it ?
[22:08] <sybux> !wiki webcam
[22:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wiki webcam - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:08] <Aranel> P.S : sorry my poor english :)
[22:08] <sybux> !webcam
[22:08] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[22:08] <stdin> Aranel: why not just add it to your fstab?
[22:08] <WaltzingAlong> Aranel: add the entry to /etc/fstab
[22:09] <stdin> Aranel: like "/dev/sdb3 none swap sw 0 0"
[22:10] <Aranel> stdin: thanks a lot :)
[22:10] <new2kubuntu7> how do i install themes on kubuntu 7.10? there plain themes not emerald
[22:10] <WaltzingAlong> !themes | new2kubuntu7
[22:10] <ubotu> new2kubuntu7: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[22:10] <sybux> I'm looking for a simple program that can take picture from a webcam but I want to run it in shell mode
[22:12] <new2kubuntu7> !changethemes
[22:12] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[22:12] <WaltzingAlong> !find webcam
[22:12] <ubotu> Found: webcam, webcam-server, webcamd
[22:12] <Exilant> webcam should do it
[22:12] <WaltzingAlong> !info webcam | new2kubuntu7
[22:12] <ubotu> new2kubuntu7: webcam: capture and upload images. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95.dfsg.1-6ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 36 kB, installed size 112 kB
[22:13] <new2kubuntu7> WaltzingAlong: i dont need info on a webcam!
[22:14] <new2kubuntu7> Does anybody know how to install a theme on kubuntu not ubuntu kubuntu 7.10
[22:14] <WaltzingAlong> new2kubuntu7: right you asked about some software, three packages with webcam in the name, i sent info about one of those packages
[22:14] <stdin> WaltzingAlong: nope, sybux did
[22:14] <new2kubuntu7> WaltzingAlong: what are u smoking?
[22:15] <WaltzingAlong> oh, i see
[22:15] <new2kubuntu7> lol
[22:15] <sybux> ^^
[22:15] <WaltzingAlong> !info webcam | sybux
[22:15] <ubotu> sybux: webcam: capture and upload images. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95.dfsg.1-6ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 36 kB, installed size 112 kB
[22:15] <sybux> but during the mean time I've found it
[22:15] <stdin> everyone makes mistakes ;)
[22:15] <new2kubuntu7> yea its np
[22:15] <WaltzingAlong> so i have heard
[22:15] <new2kubuntu7> but im perfect lol
[22:15] <stdin> except me ofcourse
[22:15] <new2kubuntu7> just kidding
[22:16] <WaltzingAlong> new2kubuntu7: which themes? kde-look.org ? colors? kwin-styles ?
[22:16] <stdin> I'm practically perfect in every way
[22:16] <stdin> (in my mind anyway)
[22:16] <new2kubuntu7> WaltzingAlong: kde-llok.org
[22:16] <new2kubuntu7> kde-look.org
[22:16] <WaltzingAlong> keyword is virtually perfect
[22:17] <new2kubuntu7> GTG TURKEY!!!!!!
[22:17] <new2kubuntu7> bye guys
[22:18] <tekteen> hello everybody
[22:19] <sybux> how can I see on which device a webcam is connected ?
[22:19] <plisken> hi
[22:19] <sybux> if I do a lsusb I can see it but i don't knwo on which /dev/ it's connected
[22:21] <stdin> sybux: try looking at "dmesg|tail"
[22:23] <sourcemaker_> are there alternatives to amarok and juk? (for radio streams)
[22:23] <leo_rockw> sourcemaker_: vlc, mplayer
[22:24] <f00f> Happy thanksgiving kubuntu team! :)
[22:24] <leo_rockw> f00f: i would say thank you... but i'm not amerikan, haha
[22:24] <sourcemaker_> leo_rockw:  okay
[22:25] <leo_rockw> f00f: happy thanksgiving day to you, tho
[22:26] <sourcemaker_> is there any stable release for amarok available?
[22:26] <stdin> the release in the archives is stable
[22:26] <leo_rockw> sourcemaker_: from #amarok Amarok 'Fast Forward' 1.4.7 released!
[22:26] <leo_rockw> the one in gutsy is 1.4.7 and it is stable
[22:27] <sourcemaker_> leo_rockw: thats the version I have installed
[22:27] <sourcemaker_> :-)
[22:27] <sourcemaker_> I have to click twice... to play a radio stream
[22:28] <leo_rockw> sourcemaker_: my amarok stopped working just now... so i'm sad
[22:28] <sourcemaker_> the first time... i receive an error.... no demux plugin
[22:28] <anmijala_> hallo
[22:28] <sourcemaker_> on the second click it works... sometimes...
[22:28] <leo_rockw> anmijala_: hallo
[22:28] <tekteen> anyone know of a cli program that will read a xml file?
[22:32] <jtt> tekteen, what do you mean read it, display edit what??
[22:32] <sybux> does anyone got a simple script that add a date and time extention to a filename ?
[22:34] <stdin> sybux: nope, but you can make one. (date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S < is a hint)
[22:34] <Exilant> sybux: as in mv foo foo.`date` ?
[22:35] <sybux> Exilant: yes but is there a way to format the date ? yyyymmdd_hhmm for example ?
[22:35] <stdin> sybux: look at my command above
[22:36] <stdin> $(date +%Y%m%d"_"%H%M) < for example
[22:36] <sybux> stdin & exilant : Perfect... you're the best
[22:37] <Exilant> *blush* :)
[22:37] <peplote> someone know how to play a .wav file through konsole
[22:37] <peplote> ??
[22:38] <stdin> peplote: aplay file.wav
[22:38] <Exilant> mplayer foo.wav ?
[22:38] <peplote> something like this?:
[22:38] <peplote> no, no that way
[22:38] <peplote> cat song.wav > /dev/XXX
[22:38] <peplote> this way
[22:38] <stdin> that only works if it's RAW unformatted wav
[22:38] <peplote> i did it in the past, but know can't remember
[22:39] <stdin> /dev/dsp
[22:39] <peplote> yes, i tried it with dsp but it doesn't worked
[22:39] <peplote> because of RAW unformatted i think now
[22:40] <stdin> sybux: it's best to use $() for commands rather than ``, for example    "echo `echo the date is `date``" and "echo $(echo the date is $(date))" produce very different results
[22:40] <peplote> thank you very much stdin
[22:40] <Exilant> peplote: or maybe arts or sth. like that blocks it
[22:40] <stdin> arts will auto suspend after a while tho
[22:41] <stdin> you can do it manually too
[22:41] <sybux> stdin: thx for the remark
[22:42] <peplote> i want to send a music file to a microcontroller through the COM
[22:42] <peplote> the idea is the same
[22:42] <Exilant> wouldn't you rather use /dev/ttyUSB0 or sth. like that then?
[22:42] <peplote> cat file.mp3 > /dev/ttyS0
[22:43] <gribelu> will the kde4rc1 packages ever make it into the hardy repos?
[22:43] <peplote> play the song was a previous probe
[22:43] <stdin> gribelu: they already are getting there
[22:43] <Exilant> peplote: you'll have to take care of baudrate settings
[22:43] <leo_rockw> gribelu: kde4rc1 can be installed in gutsy already
[22:44] <Exilant> and somehow just catting didn't always work for me
[22:44] <peplote> with the usb is more difficult, because usb interface is more difficult to manage
[22:44] <gribelu> stdin: so i still have to wait some?
[22:44] <stdin> gribelu: yeah, they should be coming through in bulk soon
[22:44] <sybux> one last question before going to bed .... which syntax shall I use in crontab to run a script every minute ?
[22:44] <peplote> thanks you all
[22:44] <sybux> I've tryed 1 * * * * * /myscript.sh but it doesn't work
[22:45] <stdin> sybux: use kcron, it's a nice GUI to crontab
[22:45] <Exilant>  /dev/ttyUSB0 is usually a usb-serial-converter device
[22:45] <sybux> stdin: I don't have GUI on my laptop
[22:45] <stdin> sybux: heh, ok
[22:45] <peplote> yes but you need to manage it also in the microcontroller :S
[22:46] <peplote> you have to add a new integrated
[22:46] <peplote> some FTDI
[22:46] <gribelu> sybux it think: */1 * * * * root /script.sh
[22:47] <peplote> Exilant: thank you anyway
[22:47] <sybux> gribelu: will check in a minute :)
[22:48] <Exilant> peplote: no, the usb-serial takes place outside the µC, it only sees a standard serial interface
[22:48] <sybux> gribelu: it seems to work. thanks
[22:49] <gribelu> cool
[22:49] <sybux> ok thanks all for help. bye bye
[23:10] <nikk> !compiz
[23:10] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[23:12]  * genii sips a coffee
[23:16] <ardchoille> hi genii
[23:16] <mani_> has anybody problems with kdm_kde4? like me ...
[23:16] <NickPresta> mani_, what problems are you having exactly?
[23:17] <mani_> 1 moment
[23:23] <Pollywog> !acroread
[23:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acroread - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:24] <N0oBi3> hi all i just install compiz and compiz fusion when I start it i get like 8 desktop when i had like 4 as my default
[23:25] <mani> hi, again
[23:25] <N0oBi3> and all my windows are on one desktop
[23:25] <stdin> N0oBi3: compiz has it's own desktop settings, support in #compiz-fusion
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. dang  - i think ome of my Hd's just took a nosedive. :(
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> getting all sorts of weird messages abotu  it now when i boot.  They dont make them like they used to.
[23:26] <stdin> backup while you still can
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> yea. reinstalling is no big deal. i was running that clamv virus checker on the windows drive. and had it do the whole system   just in case..  dident find anything. but then i noticed the / was mounted read only.
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> wonder if clamv did somting
[23:28]  * Minataku meows at Dr_Willis :3
[23:28] <stdin> I've never really used clamav, so I've never had trouble with it :p
[23:28] <mani> my kdm_kde4 problem:
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> i just noticed that i was able to install it... then ran it.. then after it was done.. my / was read only.
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> It may be it just triggered somehing  else on the hd.
[23:29] <Minataku> ClamAV shouldn't touch anything or cause anything like that
[23:29] <Minataku> What are the messages?
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> yea - thats why i wonder if just the HD was going out. and the extra ussage triggered it.
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> Lots of 0x00 type failure and so forth.. stuff ive never seen EVER befor. :)
[23:30] <mani> dpkg aborted installation with error -1
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> going to boot a live cd and fsck the disk
[23:30] <Minataku> Hrm
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> wonder wgere i put my DSL cd.
[23:31] <Minataku> 0x00 is "No Error"
[23:31] <Minataku> That's pretty much universal
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> unless its trying to access memory 0x00 :)
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> but time to reboot to dsl.
[23:36] <genii> back
[23:36] <genii> ardchoille: Belated hello
[23:37] <ardchoille> :)
[23:37]  * Minataku meows at genii and ardchoille :3
[23:37] <Minataku> I'm thinking about trying out DESQview/X
[23:37] <Minataku> It seems pretty cool, an X11R5 server for DOS
[23:37] <Minataku> lol
[23:38] <genii> Let me know how you find it
[23:41] <Minataku> I've got a fairly good system for it, as well, a Toshiba Satellite 100CS
[23:45] <JohnFlux> !intel
[23:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:45] <JohnFlux> !nvida
[23:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvida - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:45] <JohnFlux> !nvidia
[23:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:45] <JohnFlux> how do I setup my intel card? :)
[23:45] <JohnFlux> I want accelerated x goodness too
[23:46] <kid_confucius> was wondering i have no sound on my kubuntu everything has left on default with sound how  do i get sound?
[23:46] <JohnFlux> !glx
[23:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:48] <kid_confucius> JohnFlux: download envy dude
[23:48] <kid_confucius> if it is nvidia
[23:48] <JohnFlux> it's intel :-D
[23:48] <kid_confucius> kk
[23:49] <kid_confucius> nvm
[23:49] <JohnFlux> thanks though
[23:49] <ardchoille> !envy | JohnFlux
[23:49] <ubotu> JohnFlux: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[23:50] <kid_confucius> that true
[23:50] <kid_confucius> lol
[23:50] <kid_confucius> can i get some help with my sound plz.?
[23:50] <ardchoille> 3rd party scripts are not a good idea anyway
[23:50] <NickPresta> kid_confucius, what help do you need with your sound?
[23:50] <ardchoille> !sound | kid_confucius
[23:50] <ubotu> kid_confucius: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:51] <kid_confucius> NickPresta: well i dont have any sound i left everythnig on default
[23:51] <Minataku> !envy
[23:51] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[23:51] <Minataku> Oh, someone else got there already
[23:51] <Minataku> Also
[23:51] <Minataku> !automatix
[23:51] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[23:51] <Minataku> Don't use EITHER of them
[23:51] <ardchoille> Minataku: Indeed
[23:51] <Minataku> Unless you like reinstalling everything from scratch
[23:54] <kid_confucius> and its using the c-media pci cmi8738 drivers but i still have no sound everything
[23:54] <kid_confucius> didnt have a problem with sound when i installed ubuntu
[23:58] <kid_confucius> ty ardcholiie
[23:58] <kid_confucius> got the sound workin
[23:58] <ardchoille> Are there any extensions available for konqueror bwe browser? I miss some of them when I used firefox.
[23:59] <Minataku> If you like extensions, go back to Firefox
[23:59] <genii> ardchoille: yeah do apt-cache search konq|grep plugin
[23:59] <Minataku> It's 100x better anyway