| === LongPointyStick is now known as LongPointyPony | ||
| MacSlow | Greetings everybody! | 08:23 |
|---|---|---|
| juliux | hi MacSlow | 08:24 |
| MacSlow | hi juliux | 08:31 |
| === doko_ is now known as doko | ||
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | ||
| zul | @schedule montreal | 13:11 |
| ubotu | Schedule for America/Montreal: 22 Nov 09:00: Desktop Team Development | 23 Nov 07:00: MOTU meeting | 29 Nov 09:00: Desktop Team Development | 13:11 |
| Hobbsee | @now | 13:20 |
| ubotu | Current time in Etc/UTC: November 22 2007, 13:20:57 - Next meeting: Desktop Team Development in 39 minutes | 13:20 |
| === ubotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: Desktop Team Development Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 23 Nov 12:00 UTC: MOTU meeting | 29 Nov 14:00 UTC: Desktop Team Development | ||
| Keybuk | GOOD AFTERNOON! | 13:58 |
| seb128 | hey hey hey | 13:59 |
| kwwii | howdy | 13:59 |
| * Hobbsee waves | 13:59 | |
| Keybuk | (we've lost a pitti) | 14:00 |
| Hobbsee | uh oh | 14:00 |
| * Hobbsee sends out a search party | 14:00 | |
| Keybuk | Apologies from Ted today | 14:01 |
| kwwii | that is such a pitti :-) | 14:01 |
| seb128 | yeah for fixed merges.ubuntu.com index ;-) | 14:01 |
| Keybuk | something to do with turkey apparently | 14:01 |
| Riddell | hi | 14:01 |
| kwwii | hooray for turkey day | 14:01 |
| Keybuk | first thing on the agenda | 14:02 |
| Keybuk | today is spec approval day | 14:02 |
| Keybuk | I realise that quite a few of these are blocked on me reviewing them (hi, mvo! :p) | 14:02 |
| Keybuk | but we'll run down the list anyway | 14:02 |
| Keybuk | Riddell: | 14:02 |
| Keybuk | kubuntu-hardy-kde4 ... still drafting | 14:03 |
| * mvo waves | 14:03 | |
| Keybuk | I assume that this is pending our current discussion in <-- that window | 14:03 |
| Keybuk | ? | 14:03 |
| Riddell | Keybuk: mm, yes, I'll got onto it after the meeting | 14:03 |
| Keybuk | and kubuntu-hardy-catchup is approved | 14:04 |
| Keybuk | are there any other kubuntu specs that should be goals for hardy? | 14:04 |
| Riddell | only KDE parts of other specs | 14:05 |
| Keybuk | could you mail me a list of those parts, and who is going to do them | 14:05 |
| Keybuk | just one liners for each is fine | 14:05 |
| Riddell | ok | 14:05 |
| Keybuk | "some-random-spec: boyrabbit has to implement a Qt frontend" | 14:05 |
| Keybuk | or something | 14:05 |
| Keybuk | ok, Ken | 14:06 |
| Keybuk | art-team we discussed -- you're going to work on getting that to review today? | 14:06 |
| kwwii | Keybuk: yes, I've already started...should be done in a bit | 14:06 |
| Hobbsee | Keybuk: the one about world domination, of course. | 14:06 |
| Keybuk | and hardy-theme and hardy-icon-theme are awaiting the outcome of decision by Mark etc. | 14:07 |
| kwwii | Keybuk: right, I guess that for now they are as final as we can get without a definite decision | 14:07 |
| Keybuk | still no pitti | 14:07 |
| kwwii | but they are structured such that we could probalby go ahead with them | 14:07 |
| Keybuk | and mvo and I have yet to bash out his spec list | 14:08 |
| mvo | Keybuk: I can try to call him | 14:08 |
| mvo | yeah, my spec list got a bit out of hand | 14:08 |
| Keybuk | mvo: please do | 14:08 |
| Keybuk | MacSlow: you have gdm-face-browser at review | 14:09 |
| Keybuk | (waiting on me, but I can give you immediate feedback -- still needs the > 100 mockup :p) | 14:09 |
| seb128 | new gdm doesn't look good for information | 14:10 |
| Keybuk | seb128: how do you mean? | 14:10 |
| StevenK | TBH, I'd prefer to sleep, but I'm here. :-) | 14:10 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: no way to select the language or session, no gdmflexiserver, no gdmsetup and SVN moves moderately quickly | 14:10 |
| mvo | pitti will be here soon | 14:10 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, hm | 14:11 |
| pitti | hi! I'm terribly sorry | 14:11 |
| Keybuk | MacSlow: also you have hardy-desktop-effects to complete drafting of | 14:11 |
| Keybuk | and one I snuck in to your list today, so I won't nag about that | 14:11 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 14:11 |
| Keybuk | pitti: hey | 14:11 |
| * pitti mixed it up with 1600, sorry | 14:12 | |
| Keybuk | StevenK: you've been drafting about-this-computer, and it's now ready for review again? | 14:12 |
| StevenK | Keybuk: Yes. | 14:12 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, 100 is the threshold were I want to disable the face-browser... for numerous reasons... one is performance on low-end hardware with very little ram... the other is images become too small to be cleanly recognizable... especially on low resolution screens | 14:12 |
| * mvo hugs pitti | 14:12 | |
| Keybuk | MacSlow: right, so that's the missing mock-up -- a username box and example flow for it | 14:12 |
| StevenK | Keybuk: Well, I think I've addressed all of your concerns | 14:13 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, ok | 14:13 |
| Keybuk | StevenK: ok, cool; Ted will own that spec, though I appreciate you'll want to help out as your -mobile time permits | 14:13 |
| Keybuk | (but I'm not going to ask for any time, since I've only just had a rant at david for stealing people on my team :p) | 14:14 |
| StevenK | Haha | 14:14 |
| Keybuk | mpt: you're the drafter for exit-strategy -- that spec needs a little more tidying up before review, how's that going? | 14:14 |
| StevenK | Keybuk: TBH, I'm perferctly happy owning it, I was planning on doing it outside core hours | 14:14 |
| MacSlow | seb128, I don't really like to have these gdm-setup things exposed directly in the greeter itself | 14:15 |
| mpt | Keybuk, I'm finishing off the design right now (it'll be another hour or three), but I don't know who can write the Implementation section | 14:15 |
| Keybuk | StevenK: but if it's on my roadmap (which it is), then I can't rely on you being able to have enough free time :-/ | 14:15 |
| Keybuk | mpt: Ted should be able to help with that | 14:15 |
| mpt | ok | 14:16 |
| MacSlow | seb128, after all that admin work... and a admin can log in and use the tool from the system menu | 14:16 |
| StevenK | Keybuk: Sure. | 14:16 |
| Keybuk | pitti: we discussed yours earlier | 14:16 |
| pitti | yep; any questions from other folks? | 14:16 |
| Keybuk | restricted-manager-rewrite and partition-management are approved | 14:16 |
| Keybuk | hardy-reducing-duplication is awaiting cjwatson approval? | 14:17 |
| pitti | right, doko gave his thumbs-up | 14:17 |
| Keybuk | policykit-integration awaiting comments from kees and cjwatson? | 14:17 |
| pitti | correct | 14:17 |
| Keybuk | ok | 14:17 |
| pitti | I was planning on working on this, so I hope I won't get it implemented before approval :-P | 14:17 |
| Keybuk | :-) | 14:18 |
| Keybuk | but it's so much fun when that happens | 14:18 |
| StevenK | Hah. A few mobile specs are in danger of that | 14:18 |
| Keybuk | I enjoy it when the specification process is subverted | 14:18 |
| StevenK | In that case, I've just uploaded about-window, enjoy. | 14:18 |
| * StevenK ducks | 14:18 | |
| Keybuk | and for the record, on my plate are hardy-hardware-detection which is a spec that involves several pieces from several people across several teams | 14:18 |
| Keybuk | so I'll be chasing it | 14:18 |
| Keybuk | and I'll also be keeping an eye on prefetch, which is hopefully just a matter of nudging upstream for it and nudging the kernel team | 14:19 |
| Keybuk | (and running lots of tests in vmware to compare with readahead) | 14:19 |
| Keybuk | are there any other desktopish specs we should go over? | 14:19 |
| mpt | packaging-tools-usability | 14:19 |
| mpt | I completed that in a hurry and perhaps mvo would like to give it a sanity check? | 14:20 |
| mvo | thanks for drafting that mpt | 14:20 |
| mvo | mpt: I looked over it a couple of minutes ago and it looked good, I need to compare it to my notes but IIRC it covers the session pretty well | 14:20 |
| Keybuk | mvo: ok, update the status whiteboard once you're happy | 14:20 |
| Keybuk | I think that's in my approval queue | 14:21 |
| mvo | ok | 14:21 |
| mpt | I made some arbitrary guesses about stuff that's too big for Hardy | 14:21 |
| MacSlow | When can I throw in the "display names with user-photos in the face-browser"-question? | 14:21 |
| Keybuk | MacSlow: presently; we'll clear off the spec list, that's a topic on the agenda :) | 14:22 |
| Keybuk | ok, no other specs ;) | 14:23 |
| Keybuk | MacSlow: right, your topic :-) explain and we'll debate | 14:23 |
| MacSlow | will I look stupid when I ask for the place to read up on the agenda? | 14:23 |
| MacSlow | ah... ok | 14:23 |
| MacSlow | so Kees had the objection that displaying user-names with the users photo in the face-browser is a security-hole | 14:24 |
| MacSlow | http://people.ubuntu.com/~mmueller/face-browser-3.png | 14:24 |
| MacSlow | see that mockup to get an idae | 14:24 |
| Keybuk | you're not actually showing usernames there though? | 14:24 |
| Keybuk | you're showing users names | 14:24 |
| MacSlow | correct | 14:24 |
| MacSlow | it's showing the real names... | 14:24 |
| MacSlow | for two reasons... | 14:24 |
| MacSlow | one is to not expose the actualy login-id of a user | 14:25 |
| MacSlow | the second is to be more real world like | 14:25 |
| * pitti likes that better, too | 14:25 | |
| Keybuk | to me, this seems to alleviate kees' concerns | 14:25 |
| MacSlow | third is to help with the possibility of two or more people having chosen the same image from the stock image set provided | 14:26 |
| pitti | not hard to guess the usernames then, of course | 14:26 |
| pitti | (OTOH kdm has done this for ages) | 14:26 |
| Keybuk | http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/startupshutdown/login/macosx103-1-1.png | 14:26 |
| StevenK | pitti: Maybe. "Martin Pitt" -> "pitti" isn't an obvious mapping, for example | 14:26 |
| pitti | StevenK: installer defaults to a lower-case variant of the name | 14:26 |
| StevenK | kdm shows both the real name and username | 14:26 |
| MacSlow | well I think it not necessary easy to guess login-id from a real name... very often login-ids are totally abstract jibberish | 14:26 |
| MacSlow | especially on larger installations | 14:27 |
| pitti | right (where it matters more, too) | 14:27 |
| mvo | and it does not help with the password (as long its not a joe password) | 14:27 |
| Keybuk | I think that not displaying some form of name is a usability problem | 14:27 |
| pitti | abstract jibberish like "MacSlow" for example :-P | 14:27 |
| Keybuk | especially for abstract pictures | 14:27 |
| MacSlow | pitti, but you're right... sometimes it can be easy to map back | 14:27 |
| kwwii | we had a long discussion about this same issues years ago at suse when we switched to a face browser, in the end those who it worries can turn it off | 14:27 |
| pitti | MacSlow: I'm not overly concerned about this TBH | 14:27 |
| MacSlow | pitti, right again... I think It's hard to map MacSlow to "Mirco Müller" | 14:28 |
| Keybuk | http://www.winsupersite.com/images/showcase/winxp_login.jpg | 14:28 |
| pitti | meh, WinXP doesn't even assign passwords by default :) | 14:28 |
| MacSlow | yeah... and MacOS does show real names too | 14:28 |
| * pitti was shocked when he installed his very fist XP a few days ago (my last install was 3.11, duh) | 14:28 | |
| Keybuk | pitti: what is the concern with revealing the username? | 14:28 |
| MacSlow | pitti, what... you're kidding? | 14:28 |
| Keybuk | what extra thing does it actually give the attacker? | 14:29 |
| pitti | Keybuk: one half (the easy one, admittedly) of getting an account | 14:29 |
| Keybuk | pitti: but what does that allow them to do? | 14:29 |
| MacSlow | Keybuk, I have no idea... I'm not a network/security person | 14:29 |
| * mpt is reminded of the idea for a login system that doesn't use login names at all, just two-word passwords | 14:29 | |
| Keybuk | they can get that by *clicking on the picture* :) | 14:29 |
| pitti | Keybuk: right, but they can't do that right now in gdm | 14:29 |
| Keybuk | sure, so the problem isn't "names visible on the face browser" | 14:30 |
| Keybuk | it's actually "face browser" | 14:30 |
| pitti | but as I said, it's only a minor point, and I'm not overly concerned about it | 14:30 |
| Keybuk | since the face browser inherently reduces the security to just a password because you can click on the picture to get the username half entered for you | 14:30 |
| mpt | OS X makes it a preference, probably for that reason | 14:30 |
| Keybuk | and security-concious can always turn off the face browser | 14:30 |
| pitti | I just remember people squeaking when ssh allowed you to detect the validity of an username | 14:30 |
| pitti | (timing attack) | 14:30 |
| pitti | but that's a different use case class | 14:31 |
| pitti | with local access like gdm I don't think it's an important problem | 14:31 |
| Keybuk | ok | 14:31 |
| Keybuk | anyone else have any thoughts? | 14:31 |
| MacSlow | So I take from that that "real names" are fine as a default, with the option available via gdm-setup to disable them | 14:32 |
| pitti | are there some defaults for the faces? like picking the next free picture that's shipped by default? | 14:32 |
| * ogra has lots of thoughts ... but wont tell Keybuk :P | 14:32 | |
| pitti | MacSlow: that will look very friendly | 14:32 |
| pitti | (to avoid all users having the same default pic, which would be confusing) | 14:32 |
| MacSlow | pitti, I'm getting my head together with kwwii and andrean to provide a set of 100 256x256 stock-images for this case | 14:33 |
| pitti | 100! wow | 14:33 |
| StevenK | Keybuk: So, can I get paroled? It's 1:30am here... :-) | 14:33 |
| MacSlow | kwwii, said email went out about 30 min. ago in case you're wondering | 14:33 |
| Keybuk | StevenK: go to bed :) | 14:33 |
| pitti | MacSlow: I expected something like 5 :) | 14:33 |
| StevenK | Keybuk: Thanks :-) | 14:33 |
| kwwii | not sure if we can find/make 100 different pics but we need a certain amount to make it look nice | 14:33 |
| kwwii | we definitely need to make the process of adding your own pic as easy as possible | 14:34 |
| mpt | Users & Groups should have a "Take My Photo" button | 14:34 |
| mpt | if a camera is detected :-) | 14:34 |
| MacSlow | pitti, yes... 100 is currently the threshold value for the face-browser... but I picked that a bit randomly I admit since I've not tested performance of this case on a low-spec GPU (lowest thing I have available is a I915) | 14:34 |
| kwwii | mpt: good idea | 14:34 |
| ogra | mpt, shouldnt that be rather "about me" ? | 14:35 |
| mpt | ogra, I'm looking forward to the day when they're one and the same | 14:35 |
| ogra | yeah | 14:35 |
| Keybuk | ok, we're drifting off the original topic here | 14:35 |
| MacSlow | kwwii, I've added MeMaker and cheese as potential "means" for image-aquisation in addition to the stock image-set | 14:35 |
| Keybuk | so appears we have a consensus that displaying the names is fine as long as the security concious can turn it off (even if that means losing the face browser altogether) | 14:35 |
| ogra | mpt, that will be after the day where screenlocking, fusa and gdm are one app :) | 14:35 |
| kwwii | MacSlow: cool | 14:35 |
| MacSlow | kwwii, MeMaker creates abstract (south-park-ish) iamges from SVG graphics... cheese is a webcam-app like PhotoBooth | 14:36 |
| pitti | will gdm, fusa, and gnome-screensaver be merged to something that provides all three use cases eventually? | 14:36 |
| * ogra was planning to pull MeMaker into main as game for edubuntu anyway | 14:36 | |
| Keybuk | mvo: you have the next item - syncs and moms | 14:36 |
| kwwii | MacSlow: yeah, I've heard of cheese before, never MeMaker though | 14:36 |
| ogra | pitti, wouldnt that be cool ? | 14:36 |
| MacSlow | ogra, cool be my guest :) | 14:36 |
| pitti | absolutely | 14:36 |
| mvo | Keybuk: yeah, it got discussed on the mailinglist already a bit | 14:36 |
| mvo | Sometimes it take some time for a sync-from-debian request to get | 14:37 |
| mvo | processed. The relevant package still appears in MoM even when the | 14:37 |
| mvo | bug is filed and its possible that some work gets duplicated | 14:37 |
| mvo | when people do not check the bugpage first and look at the open | 14:37 |
| mvo | merge. Maybe we could teach MoM about requested syncs? Or get | 14:37 |
| mvo | some limited archive-admin power to do syncs? The more patches we | 14:37 |
| mvo | forward the more often we will want syncs instead of merges. | 14:37 |
| * pitti points out that he has a script to sync packages yourself | 14:37 | |
| MacSlow | kwwii, ttps://edge.launchpad.net/memaker | 14:37 |
| pitti | when handled with care, it should be absolutely ok | 14:37 |
| mvo | it seems like a good option is to teach MoM about pending sync requests | 14:37 |
| pitti | http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/scripts/syncpackage | 14:37 |
| mvo | pitti: oh? isn't that something that requires archive-admin power? | 14:38 |
| pitti | my main concerns are: | 14:38 |
| pitti | - we lose the papertrail for bugs | 14:38 |
| Keybuk | mvo: is there any easy way to tell? | 14:38 |
| pitti | - we lose peer review | 14:38 |
| pitti | mvo: no, it's just a normal upload | 14:38 |
| Keybuk | mvo: do you have a url listing sync requests? | 14:38 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: only that it signs with your key, rather than the installer key | 14:38 |
| pitti | https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/+subscribedbugs?field.searchtext=sync | 14:38 |
| mvo | Keybuk: just the heuristics, open bug with sync and debian + archive-admin is subscribed | 14:38 |
| pitti | ^ list | 14:38 |
| pitti | mvo: that's in fact how a sync bug needs to look like | 14:39 |
| pitti | mvo: you just need archive admin power to use sync-source.py on drescher | 14:39 |
| pitti | but in the end this does nothing else than my script, with just some additional sanity checks | 14:39 |
| mvo | aha, I see. | 14:39 |
| Keybuk | hmm | 14:40 |
| Keybuk | how do I turn that into a feeds URL? | 14:40 |
| pitti | so it's not so much a technical issue, more a question of which kind of documentation we want for syncs we did in the past | 14:40 |
| pitti | Keybuk: isn't that a LP feature they are already working on? | 14:40 |
| mpt | Keybuk, the answer is "not yet" | 14:40 |
| Keybuk | oh | 14:40 |
| mvo | my only concern is duplication of work when people look at MoM output and think that this is a open merge when in facts its already dealt with | 14:41 |
| Keybuk | can probably beautiful soup that table | 14:41 |
| mpt | The eventual answer will be "click the orange button in the URL bar" | 14:41 |
| seb128 | mvo: merges have a name next to them | 14:41 |
| Keybuk | I'll add it to MoM about the time I fix the most recent fuckage :p | 14:41 |
| pitti | mvo: I dont' think that's a big problem, though; if you grab someone else's merge, you should contact him first anyway | 14:41 |
| mvo | seb128: and that name is often e.g. Ian Jackson (so unclaimed by default) | 14:41 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: \o/ | 14:42 |
| seb128 | mvo: usually it's good practice to tell to whoever is assigned that you will do it ;-) | 14:42 |
| pitti | mvo: good point about that | 14:42 |
| seb128 | right | 14:42 |
| mvo | seb128: see above, there are some people where it does matter | 14:42 |
| pitti | mvo: so you're going to merge dpkg? *hug* | 14:42 |
| seb128 | I've no conflicted yet with anybody | 14:42 |
| seb128 | I don't think it happens that often | 14:42 |
| mvo | pitti: I did everything else from ian list ... | 14:42 |
| Keybuk | ok | 14:42 |
| Keybuk | did I miss any other agenda items? | 14:42 |
| pitti | mvo: *more hugs* | 14:43 |
| mvo | if everybody thinks its not a issue, I will shut up :) | 14:43 |
| seb128 | mvo: well, I don't say it never happens but I don't think we got many conflicts | 14:43 |
| seb128 | who here duplicated work on merges this cycle? | 14:43 |
| Keybuk | mvo: even if not, it's not that difficult to add | 14:43 |
| seb128 | (just curious) | 14:43 |
| MacSlow | not me | 14:43 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: it's more common in universe. | 14:43 |
| MacSlow | :) | 14:43 |
| Keybuk | I can make it hide table rows, or have a different table | 14:43 |
| Hobbsee | so universe would appreciate it, at least. | 14:43 |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: for universe you reinvented the wheel anyway and have a comment thingy ;-) | 14:43 |
| mvo | Keybuk: maybe just a small comment (just like currently the uploaders) and a differnt color? | 14:44 |
| seb128 | but right | 14:44 |
| mvo | possible with link? | 14:44 |
| seb128 | having a such feature would be nice | 14:44 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: some of them did, but i tend to prefer mom :P | 14:44 |
| Keybuk | mvo: I have mad ajax idea for submitting comments <g> | 14:44 |
| mvo | heh :) | 14:44 |
| mvo | web 2.0! | 14:44 |
| seb128 | web 3! | 14:44 |
| Hobbsee | web 42! | 14:45 |
| * MacSlow eyes bleed | 14:45 | |
| pitti | mine too, I just looked at our dpkg delta | 14:46 |
| Keybuk | ok | 14:46 |
| Keybuk | any other agenda items? | 14:46 |
| seb128 | pitti: dpkg is clearly a task for Keybuk ;-) | 14:46 |
| seb128 | not an item | 14:46 |
| pitti | I'm sure he'll jump for joy | 14:46 |
| Keybuk | hmm? :) | 14:47 |
| seb128 | bug I want to point https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PatchTaggingGuidelines | 14:47 |
| seb128 | from now desktop packages expect proper tagging | 14:47 |
| seb128 | and patches must be sent upstream | 14:47 |
| seb128 | s/bug/but | 14:48 |
| Keybuk | seb128: could you add an example of a patch-with-a-comment to that? | 14:49 |
| Keybuk | do you mean just placing the text above the patch? | 14:49 |
| Keybuk | e.g. | 14:49 |
| Keybuk | Ubuntu: ... | 14:49 |
| Keybuk | diff -r ... | 14:49 |
| MacSlow | seb128, does that include also the work from last cycle? | 14:49 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: could you make merges.ubuntu.com/extracted list the debian/ubuntu-applied-patches directory also if there is one? | 14:49 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: ok, will do | 14:49 |
| MacSlow | seb128, I know vuntz waits for my cleaned up patches anyway | 14:50 |
| pitti | seb128: maybe we should generally use # Tag: | 14:50 |
| pitti | to use the exact same syntax for dpatches | 14:50 |
| seb128 | MacSlow: no need to modify everything right now, but tagging patches on the way when you do a merge or an update would be nice | 14:50 |
| seb128 | and new patches should be tagged | 14:50 |
| Keybuk | seb128: what's in that directory? | 14:50 |
| pitti | Keybuk: it's only used for packages without a patch system; the broken-out patches | 14:50 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: a copy of the diff we apply when the package use no patch system | 14:50 |
| Keybuk | ah, cool | 14:50 |
| Keybuk | yes, added to todo | 14:51 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:51 |
| Keybuk | so people should | 14:51 |
| Keybuk | * add tags for all new patches | 14:51 |
| Keybuk | * add tags when merging or updating a source package for any existing patches | 14:51 |
| pitti | * submit them upstream along the way | 14:51 |
| seb128 | right | 14:51 |
| Keybuk | oh, and yes, submit them upstream | 14:51 |
| Keybuk | forgot the most important bit :-) | 14:51 |
| Keybuk | and to debian, if relevant | 14:51 |
| * pitti is happy that all our remaining sudo patches except the ~/.sudo-successful tag one were accepted upstream | 14:52 | |
| Keybuk | when is sudo going to use policykit? :p | 14:52 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: if we want to make list of patches to forward, etc, would it make sense to do that in patches.ubuntu.com? It's already dealing with the datas | 14:52 |
| pitti | just at the moment when we switch everything to PK :) | 14:52 |
| pitti | Keybuk: pk_0wn_me_priv to allow everything :) | 14:53 |
| pitti | "get me a root shell over dbus", yay | 14:53 |
| Keybuk | org.2600.h4x0r.RootShell () | 14:53 |
| Keybuk | seb128: yeah, if tags are added consistently in patches, then I can extract that information and generate html from it | 14:54 |
| Keybuk | which is why I asked for an example on the wiki page, so I can make regexp :p | 14:54 |
| seb128 | Keybuk: excellent ;-) | 14:54 |
| Keybuk | ok | 14:54 |
| Keybuk | any other business? | 14:54 |
| MacSlow | not from my side | 14:55 |
| Keybuk | ok, then; end of meeting (with 3 min to go) | 14:55 |
| * mvo waves | 14:56 | |
| seb128 | Keybuk: thanks | 14:56 |
| kwwii | thanks everyone | 14:56 |
| pitti | thanks everyone | 14:56 |
| * MacSlow goes back to mockup-drawing | 14:58 | |
| * kwwii goes back to spec'ing | 14:59 | |
| === ubotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 23 Nov 12:00 UTC: MOTU meeting | 29 Nov 14:00 UTC: Desktop Team Development | ||
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| === czessi_ is now known as Czessi | ||
| === johnc4511 is now known as johnc4510 | ||
| === _czessi is now known as Czessi | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
