[00:19] <Riddell> stdin: all new koffice2 on its way
[00:20] <jjesse> hello Riddell
[00:21] <Riddell> hola chico
[00:22] <jjesse> happ turkey day :)
[00:22] <Tm_T> ?
[00:23] <jjesse> for those crazy americans that celebrate thanksgiving
[00:23] <Tm_T> I see
[00:23] <stdin> just because I can, I just finished a script that should convert users from my ppa to -backports (when all the packages have been backported)
[00:23] <stdin> http://stdin.me.uk/code/revert.tar.gz
[00:23] <nixternal> hola everyone!
[00:23] <jjesse> hola rich
[00:23] <stdin> should work, right now it just echo's the commands it would run at the end
[00:25] <Riddell> jjesse: isn't this just the first turkey fest of two before the end of the year?
[00:26] <jjesse> Riddell: yes, thanksgiving day we eat lots of turkey and watch football
[00:26] <jjesse> and for christmas we eat a lot of turkey and do the same :)
[00:26] <Tm_T> meh
[00:26] <nixternal> I think I ate 3 or 4 pumpkins :)
[00:27] <jjesse> i ate several pieces of pie
[00:28] <Riddell> jjesse: those poor old fitba players
[00:28] <jjesse> :)
[00:38]  * stdin dgetlp's koffice2_1.9.95-0ubuntu1.dsc
[00:44] <Riddell> stdin: pst, while you're doing that, put the latest webkit package in your archive
[00:44] <Riddell> just, y'know, incase it's needed
[00:44] <stdin> k
[00:45] <ryanakca> in Please upload merge <sourcepackagename><version> (repository) from Debian <repository> (<component>) ... is <version> the Ubuntu or Debian version?
[00:45] <Tm_T> who is our marble guy?
[00:45] <Tm_T> marble
[00:45] <Tm_T> marble: error while loading shared libraries: libgps.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:46] <Tm_T> whopsie
[00:47] <Tm_T> it should be libgps.so.16 I assume
[00:49] <Riddell> ryanakca: what's the context?
[00:51] <ryanakca> Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging#head-32f94fb74efce0c3a0123e984fc5292245272e32
[00:52] <ryanakca> it could be either or... if I had to guess, I'd say debian, but... *shrugs*
[00:55] <Riddell> ryanakca: it's the debian version (since it has no XubuntuY in it)
[00:55] <Riddell> ryanakca: but if it's unclear, feel free to edit
[00:56] <ryanakca> Riddell: *nods*, thanks...
[01:04] <ryanakca> hmmm... aptitude's almost done... *twiddles*
[01:04]  * ryanakca knocks on wood
[01:05] <stdin> uhh, it'll take about 40mins to upload koffice2...
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> wow.
[01:05] <stdin> the .orig.tar.gz is 62.2MB
[01:06] <Riddell> stdin: it's big (but still a fraction of openoffice)
[01:06] <stdin> 18% done
[01:07] <stdin> please don't ask me to do openoffice, my modem will die :p
[01:09] <Tonio_> hi there !
[01:09] <stdin> this time i've put the version number to -1~ppa1 (it'll be 1.9.95-0ubuntu0~ppa1), so when it get's in to -backports it should just update from that
[01:09] <stdin> as ~ppa1 is less than ~gutsy1
[01:09] <stdin> erm, greater than
[01:17] <Riddell> stdin: so it won't update
[01:17] <stdin> Riddell: so it will
[01:17] <stdin> it wouldn't before because ~ppa1 was greater than ~gutsy1
[01:18] <stdin> but I took 1 off the ubuntu revision this time
[01:19] <stdin> so I don't have to add it to my insane "move-from-ppa-to-backports" script  http://stdin.me.uk/code/revert.tar.gz
[01:19] <stdin> 65.3085% done upload btw
[01:19] <stdin> and 3.3 seconds lag
[01:22]  * Riddell uploads webkitkde and goes to bed
[01:31] <stdin> koffice2 just finished uploading
[02:01] <nixternal> jjesse: I updated Games.xml to include KSudoku and added all of the apps people would like more information on to the kubuntu-extras.xml in our hardy bzr repo, so remember to bzr up when you run in there next
[02:02] <Jucato>  huh wha? O.o
[02:02] <Jucato> :)
[02:02] <Jucato> happy turkey night nixternal!
[02:02] <nixternal> mmm, turkey
[02:02] <nixternal> you made me hungry aga
[02:02] <nixternal> in
[02:02] <Jucato> Hobbsee!!!!!! *cough* !!!!!!!
[02:02] <nixternal> Hobbsee!*!*! :)
[02:02] <nixternal> haha
[02:03]  * DaSkreech blinks
[02:03] <DaSkreech>  Did I miss something?
[02:04] <Jucato> yeah. you missed Hobbsee entering in all her glory and awesomeness
[02:04]  * Hobbsee waves
[02:04] <Tm_T> hi kids
[02:04] <DaSkreech> baaah
[02:06] <DaSkreech> nixternal: that's just disturbing
[02:06] <DaSkreech> http://jaiku.com/image/49/avatar_39749_f.jpg?1195689540
[02:06] <nixternal> haha
[02:07] <Jucato> lmao
[02:07] <Jucato> tsk tsk... that chicken should be dressed
[02:30] <ryanakca> can someone take a look at/sponsor bug 164616 please?
[02:30] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 164616 in aptitude "Please upload merge aptitude aptitude 0.4.9-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164616
[02:30] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: ask mvo to sponsor that, methinks
[02:30] <ryanakca> ok, will do :)
[02:37] <stdin> heh, I'm hogging all the ppa buildds :)
[02:38] <DaSkreech> how many machines do they have for ppa ?
[02:39] <stdin> not sure how many physical machines
[02:39] <stdin> the ppa buildds are xen based
[02:39] <Jucato> that's another -10010110101101 for stdin... just for hogging ppa builds
[02:40] <Tm_T> stdin <3
[02:40] <Hobbsee> hm, i should throw more of kde thru
[02:40] <Jucato> thru the window?
[02:40] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: marble familiar?
[02:40] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: not really
[02:40] <Tm_T> okie
[02:41] <Tm_T> can you run it?
[02:41] <DaSkreech> has anyone used KVM ?
[02:41] <Jucato> nixternal: I don't think you can use GNOME panel applets on Kicker, just as you can't use kicker applets on gnome-panel
[02:42] <nixternal> I didn't think so, but someone told me they did/could
[02:42] <nixternal> I wanted to be nice and not tell him bs
[02:42] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: i dont have kde4 installed
[02:42] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: no, not kde4 version
[02:43] <Jucato> nixternal: yeah. you can let other people just do it for you :)
[02:43] <vorian> hello :)  what's the branch for extragear-plasma?
[02:43] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: Package: marble
[02:44] <nixternal> trunk/extragear/plasma <- vorian
[02:44] <vorian> ah!
[02:44] <vorian> duh
[02:44] <vorian> ty ty ty nixternal :)
[02:44] <Tm_T> vorian: heh
[02:44] <vorian> :)
[02:45] <Hobbsee> kdetoys-kde4 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1 FTBFS.  someone, pleasefix
[02:45] <Hobbsee> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdetoys-kde4/4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1/+build/451734
[02:46] <Hobbsee> as did i386 build of kdemultimedia-kde4 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1 in ubuntu hardy RELEASE
[02:46] <Hobbsee> (on all arches, i expect)
[02:46] <Hobbsee> everything else is pretty much dones.
[02:46] <Hobbsee> -s
[02:47] <stdin> SNAP!
[02:47] <stdin> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10505563/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.kdetoys-kde4_4%3A3.96.0-1ubuntu1%7Eppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[02:48] <stdin> I told Riddell about it a while ago
[02:48] <stdin> same for multimedia
[02:50] <Tm_T> oooh!
[02:51] <Jucato> ooooh!
[02:51] <Jucato> ponies!
[02:52] <GoldenPony> :P
[02:52] <DaSkreech> OMGWTFBBQPONIES? LOLWUT?
[02:53]  * DaSkreech chuckles
[02:53] <DaSkreech> Golden :)
[02:55] <Jucato> golden fried :)
[02:56] <DaSkreech> Or barbqued :)
[02:57] <Jucato> dressed?
[02:59] <DaSkreech> >_<
[02:59] <DaSkreech> !hobbsee
[02:59] <ubotu> I phear the stick so shhhhh
[03:01] <stdin> this one's my favourite:
[03:01] <stdin> !installhardy
[03:01] <ubotu> Every time you install hardy, Hobbsee pokes a kitten with the long pointy stick of doom!
[03:01] <DaSkreech> dang it I don't like kittens :(
[03:02] <Hobbsee> haha
[03:02] <DaSkreech> but I don't have that many computers to install hardy
[03:02]  * nixternal is running hardy and it is a slow beast right now
[03:03] <Hobbsee> mine's fine, but i'm only selectively upgrading
[03:03] <Jucato> still gutsy KDE4 :P
[03:03] <Jucato> it's purring like a cat :D
[03:04] <DaSkreech> prepoke?
[03:05] <Hobbsee> besides, i'm partial to kittens.
[03:06] <ryanakca> yay! FF crashed! :D
[03:06] <coreymon77> guys, can anyone here help me out with mounting an osx partition on a dapper livecd in the support channel?
[03:06] <DaSkreech> ryanakca: Pffft
[03:06] <Hobbsee> ...why dapper?  gutsy should do that by default, i expect
[03:06] <DaSkreech> I can get Alt+ctrl+del to crash in Vista
[03:06] <Hobbsee> coreymon77: man mount should help you
[03:07] <ryanakca> DaSkreech: hehe
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: you using KDE4? SVN?
[03:12] <Jucato> yep
[03:13] <Jucato> (need to update later though... 2 days old...)
[03:13] <Tm_T> ah!
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: yeah, as soon as my dad goes back to work after Thanksgiving vacation... i'm getting RC1 :D
[03:13] <Jucato> get svn :)
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: svn+dialup doesn't work well
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> I tried once XD
[03:14] <Jucato> oh...
[03:14] <Jucato> :/
[03:14] <DaSkreech> svn up
[03:14] <DaSkreech> beep beep Boop boop schhhhwwwwwiing Bong bong
[03:15] <stdin> only one big d/l with svn, that's why it's so good
[03:15] <Jucato> the initial checkout is a beast... co'ing kdebase took longer than compiling it :)
[03:15] <Tm_T> yup
[03:15] <DaSkreech> Still thinks gentoo with distcc is rad
[03:15] <Tm_T> but it's fun to wait!
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> yeah.... I did it at a freinds house...
[03:15] <stdin> you can use distcc (and icecc) on kubuntu too
[03:15]  * nosrednaekim <3 cmake
[03:16] <stdin> used it last time I compiled kde svn
[03:16] <stdin> (2 laptops and 1 desktop)
[03:16] <stdin> and the icecc-monitor kept me happy with status info
[03:17] <DaSkreech> !info icecc
[03:17] <ubotu> icecc: distributed compiler (client and server). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-2 (gutsy), package size 291 kB, installed size 1040 kB
[03:17] <Jucato> icecream
[03:17] <DaSkreech> What's the claim to fame for icecc?
[03:17] <Jucato> used by KDE?
[03:17] <Jucato> during hackfests/meetings (I think)
[03:18] <DaSkreech> ah that's ice cream
[03:18] <Jucato> unless I'm mistaken (which I usually am)
[03:19]  * DaSkreech smiles at Jucato
[03:22]  * Tm_T goes compiling KDE4
[03:23]  * Jucato goes for lunch
[03:24] <Tm_T> Jucato: you're not on #ubuntu-ops ? or #ubuntu-irc ?
[03:25] <nixternal> Tm_T: what is -irc?
[03:25] <DaSkreech> I was too stunned to ask
[03:26] <nixternal> I have heard of -ops, but not -irc
[03:26]  * DaSkreech is astounded by working on a KDE project where the stuff doesn't work in KDE
[03:26] <DaSkreech> Which reminds me I need to report that konqueror bug that stops me from reporting konqueror bugs
[03:26] <nixternal> what project is that?
[03:28] <Tm_T> for irc ops in ubuntu space, loco channels etc, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/ChannelOperators
[03:28] <DaSkreech> mateedit
[03:30] <nixternal> Tm_T: so the -irc is pretty much the same as -ops then i take it..nothing special about it
[03:31] <Tm_T> no
[03:31] <Tm_T> -ops is only for channels that IrcCouncil can handle
[03:31] <Tm_T> (they are not running any loco channels etc)
[03:32] <Tm_T> namely, for these people (excluding xubuntu?) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCOperators
[03:36] <nixternal> ahh, OK
[03:40] <Tm_T> like, you don't really see users asking ban to be removed in -irc, because it's not for that really
[03:44] <stdin> wooh, koffice2 seems to have built
[03:46] <stdin> ugg, why do these language-pack people insist on locking the i386 buildds for hours at a time?
[03:47] <stdin> with nearly 300 packages....
[03:48] <Hobbsee> because they like to
[03:51] <CPrgmSwR2> stdin: did you ever get kdenetwork to build?
[03:51] <Hobbsee> kdenetwork wont build yet
[03:52] <stdin> I'd have to backport libvncserver-dev to my ppa, and I'd have to make sure it'll be backported for real too
[03:52] <CPrgmSwR2> Oh its a ppa issue?
[03:52] <CPrgmSwR2> So you can compile it from source just fine?
[03:52] <stdin> no
[03:52] <Hobbsee> may as well get it from hardy, when it goes thru NEW
[03:52] <Tm_T> mmh
[03:53] <Tm_T> CPrgmSwR2: I'll look at it
[03:53] <CPrgmSwR2> okay thnx
[03:53] <CPrgmSwR2> Tm_T: would you like the error message I get?
[03:53] <stdin> CPrgmSwR2: the package needs libvncserver-dev from hardy, but I'd need to make sure that it get's backported to gutsy-backports too. don't want to risk conflicting too bad with ubuntu's repos
[03:54] <Tm_T> err you get errors?
[03:54] <CPrgmSwR2> yes
[03:54] <Tm_T> why didn't you say so
[03:55] <CPrgmSwR2> Tm_T: wouldn't their be an error if something didn't build
[03:55] <CPrgmSwR2> Or in otherwords how could something not build without an error
[03:55] <Tm_T> 0551 < CPrgmSwR2> I don't have the error message but basically it will not compile
[03:56] <Tm_T> CPrgmSwR2: you sorta fooled me :p
[03:57] <Tm_T> CPrgmSwR2: but yes, show me the error
[03:57] <CPrgmSwR2> Sorry
[03:57] <Tm_T> aah, is that it?
[03:58] <CPrgmSwR2> It looks like from #kde4-devel that QCA is out of date
[03:58] <Tm_T> meh
[03:58] <CPrgmSwR2> which is a kubuntu issue
[03:59] <CPrgmSwR2> I think I will just wait until kde4 is released to continue development of kollagame
[03:59] <Tm_T> not needed
[03:59] <CPrgmSwR2> I relize its not needed
[04:00] <Tm_T> ?
[04:00] <Tm_T> nooo
[04:00] <Tm_T> don't say that
[04:00] <CPrgmSwR2> I am just having issue finding a good setup
[04:00] <stdin> hmm, now why is "0~svn27674-0~ppa1" less than "0~svn27674"
[04:00] <stdin> surely the -0 make's it greater than
[04:01] <stdin> huh, it's the ~ppa1 that makes it less...
[04:01] <Hobbsee> correct
[04:01] <CPrgmSwR2> the 1 mabye
[04:02] <Hobbsee> sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 0~svn27674-0~ppa1 lt 0~svn27674-0 && echo true
[04:02] <Hobbsee> true
[04:02] <Hobbsee> ~ is less than any other character
[04:02] <stdin> yeah, but I thought the -0 would make it greater than no revision
[04:03] <Hobbsee> true, yes.
[04:03] <Hobbsee> oh, hang on
[04:03] <stdin> it's 0~svn..., that's why (I think)
[04:03] <CPrgmSwR2> is kubuntu going to release a kde4 cd on December 12 or not until hardy is released?
[04:03] <stdin> not 0.???~svn
[04:03] <Tm_T> CPrgmSwR2: yes
[04:04] <Hobbsee> sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 1-0 eq 1 && echo true
[04:04] <Hobbsee> true
[04:04] <CPrgmSwR2> which one?
[04:04] <Hobbsee> CPrgmSwR2: we'll see
[04:04] <Hobbsee> stdin: "-0" is equal to ""
[04:04] <stdin> I see
[04:04] <Hobbsee> see the terminal output
[04:05] <stdin> yeah, I'm using dpkg --compare-versions to check too (ever since I saw you do it a while ago :p)
[04:05] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:09] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: release
[04:09] <CPrgmSwR2> huh
[04:11] <CPrgmSwR2> DaSkreech: ?
[04:12] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: you asked if there would be a reelase when KDE4 ships ?
[04:12] <CPrgmSwR2> yes
[04:12] <CPrgmSwR2> will I asked if their would be a cd-rom release
[04:13] <CPrgmSwR2> or a very easy way to install kde4 because I am having all sorts of issues with finding a good kde4 setup
[04:14] <GoldenPony> damn hardy.
[04:16] <stdin> well, at least I got koffice2 built
[04:16] <CPrgmSwR2> oh cool
[04:17] <Jucato> yay?
[04:17] <Jucato> :)
[04:17] <Jucato> oooh GoldenPoney morphed into Hobbsee!!!
[04:17] <CPrgmSwR2> stdin: how about amarok?
[04:18] <stdin> hmm, I wonder
[04:18] <coreymon77> you guys know anything able target disk mode and firewire in here, if so, please help me out in the support channel
[04:19] <stdin> CPrgmSwR2: looks like that'll fail anyway https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/amarok2/+builds
[04:19] <Hobbsee> neat....
[04:19] <Hobbsee> i didnt think ssh was so painless!
[04:19]  * stdin <3 ssh
[04:19] <stdin> and especially sshfs :D
[04:20] <Jucato> ssshhhh!
[04:20] <Jucato> :)
[04:22] <CPrgmSwR2> CMake Error: Could not find Ruby
[04:23] <CPrgmSwR2> I get this error for amarok
[04:24] <Tm_T> heh
[04:24] <CPrgmSwR2> I installed libruby
[04:24] <Jucato> ruby-dev package (forgot the name
[04:24] <Jucato> !info libruby-dev
[04:24] <ubotu> Package libruby-dev does not exist in gutsy
[04:24] <Jucato> bah
[04:25] <Tm_T> apt-get build-dep amarok ?
[04:25] <Jucato> amarok2?
[04:25] <Tm_T> that works too
[04:25] <Tm_T> either way
[04:27] <stdin> CPrgmSwR2: the real error is "/build/buildd/amarok2-2.0.0~svn693037/po/ar/CMakeLists.txt:2: Unknown CMake command "kde4_create_po_files"."  and I don't know enough about cmake to attempt to fix that
[04:28] <CPrgmSwR2> I can't get paste the ruby error here
[04:29] <CPrgmSwR2> so I can't figure that next part out
[04:29] <stdin> CPrgmSwR2: install ruby? (ruby1.8-dev)
[04:30] <Jucato> yay for naming conventions :)
[04:30] <stdin> I just ran "dpkg -l|grep ruby|grep "\-dev"" to get that
[04:31] <stdin> if it's a -dev package, I probably have it installed
[04:31] <Jucato> ah, libruby1.8, ruby1.8, ruby1.8-dev... nice :)
[04:31] <Jucato> heheh
[04:31] <CPrgmSwR2> I got past it finally
[04:31] <CPrgmSwR2> CMake Error: Could not find REQUIRED package Kcddb
[04:31] <CPrgmSwR2> now I am stuck on this error
[04:31] <Jucato> CPrgmSwR2: if what you're compiling usually complains about missing packages, try looking for the -dev version of those packages
[04:32] <Jucato> automake is usually more specific, it says missing headers instead of package
[04:32] <CPrgmSwR2> there isn't a folder called kcddb
[04:32] <Jucato> but in this case.. hm...
[04:32] <stdin> !find kcddb
[04:32] <ubotu> Found: libkcddb1
[04:32] <Jucato> I ran into that 2 months ago.. forgot how I did it
[04:32] <CPrgmSwR2> svn up I think solved the problem
[04:33] <CPrgmSwR2> Oh... I need to install kdemultimedia
[04:33]  * CPrgmSwR2 goes to compile kdemultimedia
[04:33] <Jucato> and libcddb2-dev needs to be installed in order to build libkcddb I think
[04:34] <CPrgmSwR2> kdemultimedia is at 11%
[04:34]  * Jucato wished he had better luck w/ kdenetwork...
[04:34] <CPrgmSwR2> its a QCA issue
[04:34] <CPrgmSwR2> someone needs to update that package in ubuntu
[04:35] <Tm_T> stdin: ohoy
[04:35] <CPrgmSwR2> stdin: can you update QCA
[04:35] <stdin> que?
[04:36] <CPrgmSwR2> Can you update the package QCA for kdenetwork
[04:37] <stdin> I can't touch the ubuntu repos
[04:37] <Tm_T> stdin: did you build kdenetwork with qca?
[04:38] <stdin> Tm_T: well it build-deps on libqca2-dev
[04:38] <CPrgmSwR2> stdin: can you provide the newest qca package in your ppa archive
[04:38] <stdin> so guess so
[04:38] <Tm_T> stdin: yes, which doesn't build on current svn it seems
[04:39] <Tm_T> meh
[04:39] <stdin> besides, it needs libvncserver-dev (>= 0.9.3.dfsg.1-1ubuntu1)
[04:39] <Tm_T> true
[04:39] <CPrgmSwR2> stdin: kdemultimedia is now compiling
[04:39] <CPrgmSwR2> or amarok I mean
[04:39] <CPrgmSwR2> I didn't get that error about kde4_create_po_files or whatever it was
[04:39] <CPrgmSwR2> did you install kdepim
[04:40] <CPrgmSwR2> oops
[04:40] <CPrgmSwR2> I mean kdepimlibs
[04:40] <Tm_T> it must be installed before anything else except kdeliba
[04:40] <Tm_T> s
[04:40] <CPrgmSwR2> stdin: do you have amarok2 depending on kdemultimedia?
[04:41] <stdin> CPrgmSwR2: I'm sure the debian guys know what packages depend on what :p
[04:41] <stdin> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/amarok2/+builds < not my built
[04:41] <CPrgmSwR2> hmm...
[04:41] <stdin> that's from hardy
[04:42] <stdin> I'll tell you it's build-deps in a sec...
[04:43] <stdin> Build-Depends: cdbs, cmake, debhelper (>=5), quilt, kdelibs5, kdelibs5-dev, libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev, libtag1-dev (>> 1.4), libmysqlclient15-dev, libpq-dev, libxine-dev, libsdl1.2-dev, libvisual-0.4-dev, ruby, ruby1.8-dev
[04:43] <stdin> that's amarok2
[04:44] <CPrgmSwR2> yep no kdemultimedia
[04:44] <CPrgmSwR2> Thats the issue
[04:44] <CPrgmSwR2> wait
[04:44] <CPrgmSwR2> where is kdebase?
[04:44] <stdin> so "kde4_create_po_files"  is defined in kdemultimedia?
[04:45] <CPrgmSwR2> I think its defined in kdebase
[04:45] <stdin> hmm
[04:45] <CPrgmSwR2> looking for it now
[04:46] <CPrgmSwR2> going to take a while
[04:46] <CPrgmSwR2> using grep -R kde4_create_po_files *
[04:48] <CPrgmSwR2> hmm....
[04:48] <CPrgmSwR2> I cannot find it
[04:50] <stdin> well that needs to be fixed before we can try to build it
[04:52] <CPrgmSwR2> I cannot find that declare anywhere on my system
[04:53] <CPrgmSwR2> Oh I know why
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Jucato: google search for krushdays
[04:54] <CPrgmSwR2> that has to do with language stuff
[04:54] <Jucato> DaSkreech: tomorrow
[04:54] <CPrgmSwR2> And I don't have po = polish encoding installed
[04:54] <DaSkreech> Jucato: It's a 4 second query :)
[04:54] <CPrgmSwR2> stdin: still here
[04:54] <stdin> I'm always here
[04:55] <stdin> even when I'm not
[04:55] <stdin> :)
[04:55] <CPrgmSwR2> anyways its a translation thing
[04:55] <stdin> I know
[04:55] <stdin> po = translations
[04:55]  * Jucato thinks that's what the "po" means
[04:55] <Jucato> bah.. need to type faster
[04:55] <CPrgmSwR2> stdin: it probably requires a translation package
[04:56] <stdin> well, if you find what one I can get it to build :p
[04:56] <DaSkreech> http://www.google.com.jm/search?q=krushdays&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[04:57] <Hobbsee> it be borken.
[04:58] <stdin> I have a feeling that will be but one of many errors for amarok2 anyway
[05:01] <CPrgmSwR2> stdin: amarok2 should build just fine for you
[05:01] <DaSkreech> What's Ampache?
[05:01] <stdin> I'm sure I could get it to build on my pc, but that's not the point ;)
[05:02] <CPrgmSwR2> # ome/kde-devel/kde/src/KDE/extragear/multimedia/k3b/libk3b/videodvd/k3bvideodvd.cpp:29:32: error: dvdread/dvd_reader.h: No such file or directory
[05:02] <CPrgmSwR2> okay where do I get dvd_reader.h
[05:02] <stdin> !find dvdread/dvd_reader.h
[05:03]  * stdin guesses libdvdread-dev
[05:03] <ubotu> File dvdread/dvd_reader.h found in libdvdread-dev
[05:03] <stdin> let's see
[05:03] <stdin> WOOH!
[05:03] <stdin> :)
[05:04] <DaSkreech> http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=KDE4+krushdays&btnG=Search&meta=
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Ha ha ha ha ha ha
[05:04] <stdin> heh
[05:05] <stdin> guess google gets a lot of searches for "kde 4 crashes"
[05:06] <CPrgmSwR2> http://fbsd.za.net/2007/06/04/kde4-crashes-applications-beautifully/ <--- this is interesting
[05:07] <DaSkreech> http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=KDE4+krushday&btnG=Search&meta=
[05:07] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: indeed
[05:07] <DaSkreech> CPrgmSwR2: Problem is when the program fixes itself
[05:08] <CPrgmSwR2> Oh oops
[05:08] <CPrgmSwR2> it could peice itself back together
[05:09] <CPrgmSwR2> 70% on amarok
[05:10] <DaSkreech> does anyone know if the *buntu kernels have linmodem support ?
[05:10] <CPrgmSwR2> I didn't know linmodem exists
[05:16] <CPrgmSwR2> yeah 95% on amarok
[05:16] <DaSkreech> I hate telling people they have to recompile the kernel just to go online
[05:16] <DaSkreech>  :-(
[05:17] <CPrgmSwR2> they need to have a standard for modem communication
[05:17] <CPrgmSwR2> 99%
[05:18] <DaSkreech> there is
[05:18] <DaSkreech> it just only works with Windows
[05:20] <CPrgmSwR2> and linux can't use it?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Kinda
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Linmodem :)
[05:20] <CPrgmSwR2> oh
[05:20] <CPrgmSwR2> does it work well
[05:22] <DaSkreech> For some chipsets
[05:22] <CPrgmSwR2> wow amarok2 rocks
[05:22] <Jucato> yay! here comes the pony!!
[05:22]  * GoldenPony nickers
[05:22]  * Tm_T hides
[05:22] <GoldenPony> back to gutsy
[05:22] <Jucato> heh :)
[05:23] <GoldenPony> where all this stuff is not installed.
[05:23] <DaSkreech> KnicKers?
[05:23] <DaSkreech> That's got to be the silliest name for a team every
[05:23] <DaSkreech> ever
[05:25] <Jucato> Hobbsee!!!!! *chokes* *coughs* *swallows* !!!!!!!!!
[05:26]  * DaSkreech waves at Jucato
[05:26] <Jucato> ~~~~\o/~~~~~
[05:26]  * Jucato drowning in the waves
[05:27] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: wave wave!!
[05:27] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:27] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:27] <Jucato> ~~~~~~~~~
[05:28] <Jucato> __/+\___  here lies Jucato...
[05:28]  * DaSkreech throws a surfboard
[05:29] <Jucato> _o/ \o/ \o_  DaSkreech's cheering squad
[05:31] <DaSkreech> How?
[05:31] <DaSkreech> Oh you underlined everything
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Heehee
[05:32]  * DaSkreech hula dances
[05:42] <DaSkreech> Niht all
[06:02] <Tm_T> meh
[07:07] <Sime> is it just me or is mounting USB sticks etc really screwed up.
[07:08] <Sime> I'm seeing two popup windows. One of which is coming from root, while the other is from my login.
[07:46] <Tm_T> nixternal: yo
[07:47] <nixternal> yo yo
[07:48] <Tm_T> nixternal: "Umm, I thought you were already a member!?!?" made me smile wide :))
[07:49] <Tm_T> we have surprisingly many non-members here :)
[07:49] <nixternal> no doubt
[07:49] <Tm_T> like me
[07:50] <Jucato> and non-functioning members like me :)
[07:50] <Tm_T> haha
[07:50] <Jucato> nixternal?!?! O.o
[07:50] <Jucato> what are you doing up this late/early?
[08:00] <nixternal> I just got lost in KDE 4...and I did the freakin' unthinkable
[08:00] <Tm_T> yes?
[08:01] <Hobbsee> what, replaced vista?
[08:01] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: stop reading my mind
[08:01] <nixternal> no, thank god :p
[08:07] <Jucato_> nixternal: seems like I was a bit wrong. or at least according to hydrogen, building with BUILD_TYPE=release should be faster than debugfull
[08:07] <Jucato_> I built w/ no BUILD_TYPE, which according to wiki.kde.org, defaults to relwithdebinfo..
[08:08] <Jucato_> does feel faster...
[08:08] <Jucato_> but I don't have benchmarks :O)
[08:08] <Jucato_> oops! I did an mhb.. I meant :)
[08:10] <stdin> mornin'
[08:10] <Tm_T> hi stdin
[08:10] <Jucato_> yo stdin
[08:10] <stdin> oh joy, I love waking up to failed to build emails  :p
[08:11] <Tm_T> hah
[08:11] <stdin> hmm, now that is strange...
[08:11] <stdin> "libqtwebkit-dev: Depends: libqtwebkit0d (< 0~svn27674-0~ppa1.1~) but 0~svn27674-0gutsy1 is to be installed"
[08:12] <stdin> why is the -dev older than the lib?
[08:13] <Hobbsee> mmm...shiniy.
[08:13] <stdin> I suppose a better question would be "why wasn't the new -dev built?" :/
[08:13]  * stdin is flummuxed and gets coffee
[08:19] <stdin> and the language pack people are *still* blocking the i386 ppa buildds...
[08:19] <Jucato_> :P
[08:20] <stdin> only another 60 to go
[08:24] <Hobbsee> stdin: what were you looking boosted?
[08:25] <stdin> Hobbsee: huh?
[08:26] <Hobbsee> or you're just whining about the state of ppa in general?
[08:28] <stdin> Hobbsee: well, that :p and I have no clue why the lib and lib-dbg packages were built but not the lib-dev
[08:28] <stdin> and all I did was bump the version
[08:37] <stdin> AHH, I know why now
[08:39] <stdin> the -dev is an _all.deb, those are built on i386 and the i386 version hasn't built because the language pack people have hoarded it for the last few hours
[08:39]  * stdin feels better now he's solved the puzzle
[09:23] <milos> hello, i have a bug to report, who do i turn to?
[09:25] <milos> all right, i`ll just write it down here, then paste it to the ubuntu-devel - because the same thing happens in both distro variants
[09:25] <milos> So, my box is: asus nforce2 mobo, nvidia geforcefx5600 (asus), 512mb ram etc
[09:26] <milos> when i boot from the desktop installer cd, and try to install using the first option, the screen filckers when the installer goes into X
[09:26] <milos> so, i tried to set the resolution to something lower - like 800x600x16 in the first prompt, and choosing "safe vga mode"
[09:26] <milos> but the same thing happens!
[09:27] <milos> resolution is 1920xsomething (i can check that on my monitor OSD menu)
[09:37] <JJtech> my box is AMD64bit athlonFX 4000+ , 1.5g RAM, 2 SATA 80gb, 1 EIDE 40gb, nforce430 mainboard, geForce 8400GS video card       what shud i do to take full effects and optimal settings??
[10:02] <Hobbsee> ...
[10:02]  * Jucato huggles Hobbsee
[10:02] <Hobbsee> why would we have a bug tracker, just to report bugs on irc instead?
[10:06] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: I can sing bugreports!
[10:06] <Hobbsee> oh no...
[10:08]  * Tm_T likes singing
[10:14] <stdin> Hobbsee: \sh set him it the direction of launchpad anyway
[10:15] <\sh> Hobbsee, most people don't know anything about reporting and bugs and bugtracker...consumers only...if it's broken, they want to give it back ,-)
[10:18] <Hobbsee> yeah, but most consumers wont try to return a bought piece of clothing at the individual register - instead, they do it at the big register marked "customer service"
[10:57] <Riddell> mhb: what's that key called that the -fvisibility patch broke in qt 3?
[11:26] <stdin> now that was odd
[11:27] <stdin> couldn't login as stdin then, had to get a staffer to help :p
[11:31] <Riddell> apachelogger__: is there a recent snapshot of amarok2 we could package?
[11:33] <Riddell> stdin: you're now giving away that you're from somewhere in England :)
[11:33] <stdin> B'ham actually
[11:36] <Riddell> stdin: not another one of these wolveslug people I've actually met?
[11:36] <stdin> no :p
[11:36] <stdin> I'd be in sblug (if i was in a lug that is)
[11:44] <Mez> stdin, didnt know you were a brummie
[11:44] <Mez> Riddell, to answer your amarok2 question
 there is none
 it's too unstable still
[11:44] <stdin> Mez: yeah, have been all my life :p
[11:44] <Riddell> Mez: meh
[11:45] <Mez> stdin, same here till I moved to Reading
[11:45] <Mez> lol
[11:45] <Mez> and why are you not part of sblug ?
[11:45] <stdin> just never joined
[11:45] <Mez> aw :( but it's a nice lug
[11:46] <stdin> I may join up one day
[11:46] <Mez> lol - I'm freenode's contact for them
[11:46] <stdin> heh, so I see
[11:47] <Mez> we might have to meet up for a drink at some point when I head back up ;)
[11:47] <stdin> yeah :)
[11:47] <Riddell> Hobbsee: could you give back kdebase-workspace 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu2~gutsy1 on mad64?
[11:47] <Riddell> amd64 too
[11:52] <Mez> Riddell, I think mad64 is a better name
[12:03] <Hobbsee> Riddell: done.
[12:03] <Hobbsee> Riddell: how'd our gutsy ones do?
[12:05] <Mez> Hobbsee, so you now have your ubuntu-archive powers?
[12:05] <Hobbsee> Mez: i've had ubuntu-archive for a while, but can do close to nothing with them.
[12:05] <Hobbsee> these are buildd-admin
[12:06] <Mez> ah ... lol
[12:08] <Riddell> Hobbsee: gutsy is just stuck on that amd64 one
[12:09] <Hobbsee> yup
[12:09] <Hobbsee> hm, doesnt look like much of hardy is left to go
[12:09] <Riddell> hardy is mostly done
[12:09] <Riddell> I still need to backport the rest to gutsy though
[12:16] <apachelogger__> Riddell: I'll drop an alpha release as soon as amarok is somewhat useable
[12:16] <apachelogger__> but as of now we are missing a lot of stuff in the playlist section
[12:34] <Mez> nixternal, ping
[12:46] <Riddell> motu Q&A in 15 mins in #ubuntu-classroom
[12:46] <Riddell> speaking of which, apachelogger__ when will you apply for MOTU?
[12:47] <apachelogger__> Riddell: soon
[12:48] <apachelogger__> maybe 2 weeks
[12:48]  * apachelogger__ is quite busy with exams right now
[14:48] <stdin> WaltzingAlong: yeah the "+ #3214" is the svn version
[14:48] <WaltzingAlong> stdin: ok. thanks
[14:50] <stdin> Riddell: are you planning on backporting libvncserver (0.9.3.dfsg.1-1ubuntu1) to gutsy for kdenetwork-kde4 ?
[14:51] <Riddell> stdin: if that's what's needed
[14:52] <stdin> Riddell: well it says "Missing dependencies: libvncserver-dev (>= 0.9.3.dfsg.1-1ubuntu1)" so if you're ok I'll put that in my ppa
[14:52] <stdin> *ok with that...
[14:53] <Riddell> stdin: please do
[14:56] <Jucato> hm.. PPA's don't have components/sections do they?
[14:57] <Hobbsee> Riddell: please do some archive new, in particular for the libvncserver stuff, if it's not already done
[14:57] <Hobbsee> then we can have kde 4 :)
[14:57] <Hobbsee> unfortunately, hardy's so unstable at the moment that i suspect i'll use the gutsy variant
[14:58] <stdin> Jucato: no, just release
[14:58] <Jucato> stdin: okies :)
[14:59] <stdin> Jucato: they have sections, like "libs" and "kde", but no -backports or the like
[14:59] <Riddell> Hobbsee: nothing about vnc in hardy New
[15:00] <Hobbsee> Riddell: oh, so libvncserver got cleared from binary new?  cool.
[15:00] <Jucato> stdin: ah no, I meant something that would be like: deb http://stdins_godly_repo/ubuntu gutsy kde4, and then deb http::/stdins_godly_repo/ubuntu gutsy konversation
[15:01] <Jucato> just wondering coz, everyone who's going to use your ppa for kde4 rc1 will have everything else that you put up there :)
[15:01] <stdin> Jucato: ahh, no, nothing line that. there was main/restricted/universe/multiverse, but someone decided to splat them app together
[15:02] <Jucato> (which could also limit what you could upload to your ppa...)
[15:02] <Jucato> I see...
[15:02] <stdin> Jucato: I did put all the other stuff in universe so I could keep them separate, but that got rained on by LP
[15:02] <Jucato> oh well. just wondering :)
[15:02] <Jucato> lovely :)
[15:03] <stdin> I have made a "tool" to remove all my ppa stuff, replace it with the proper version and convert the kde package to the -backports version when it's all done tho :)
[15:04] <stdin> and it's not even *that* complicated :p
[15:05] <Jucato> too bad though, it would have been nice :)
[15:05] <Jucato> custom repo components...
[15:05] <Riddell> Hobbsee: did you give back kdepim_3.5.7enterprise20070926-1ubuntu3.dsc ?
[15:05] <stdin> would have made things easier
[15:05] <Riddell> erm no
[15:05] <Riddell> Hobbsee: did you give back kdebase-runtime/4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1 ?
[15:05] <Jucato> easier, safer, more stable :)
[15:05] <Hobbsee> Riddell: if tha'ts hwat you asked me to give back before, yes.
[15:05] <Hobbsee> Riddell: did it not work?
[15:06] <stdin> Jucato: but not "simple" enough apparently ;)
[15:06] <Jucato> hahah :)
[15:06] <Riddell> Hobbsee: it's still failed to build, not needs building
[15:07]  * Hobbsee tries again
[15:10] <Hobbsee> Riddell: give me a yell if it falls over again.  sometimes soyuz loses info, etc.
[15:36] <jpatrick> apachelogger__: you should have put a Conflicts: libk3b-mp3 for -extracodecs!
[15:41] <DaSkreech> stdin: can you mail me that script?
[15:41] <DaSkreech> assuming no passwords :)
[15:42] <stdin> the "move to -backports" script?
[15:43] <DaSkreech> yes
[15:43] <stdin> DaSkreech: just download it :) http://stdin.me.uk/code/revert.tar.gz (it's a script and some other text files)
[16:52] <Riddell> Hobbsee: can you give back kdebase-kde4 in gutsy-backports?
[16:52] <Hobbsee> Riddell: what, again?
[16:54] <Hobbsee> oh, that was -runtime before
[16:56] <Riddell> Hobbsee: -runtime done
[16:56] <Riddell> this one was in main, sigh
[16:58] <Hobbsee> Riddell: given back
[16:58] <Riddell> lets hope that works, we may have to wait until publisher runs and really puts it into universe
[17:53] <nixternal> Mez: pong?
[17:54] <Jucato> :)
[17:54] <Jucato> nixternal!!!! :)
[17:55] <nixternal> mornin'
[17:55] <nixternal> heh, 5 minutes to noon :)
[17:55] <Jucato> haha :)
[17:55] <Jucato> 5 minutes to 2am :)
[17:56] <DaSkreech> Ha ha
[17:56] <nixternal> isn't it past your bedtime?
[17:56] <Jucato> I finally got system sounds in KDE4.. but lost all icons... and I consider that a lot worse :/
[17:56] <nixternal> :)
[17:56] <DaSkreech> I got system sounds in KDE4 :)
[17:56] <Jucato> waaaay past...
[17:56]  * nixternal does too
[17:56] <Jucato> no wait.. lately I've been sleeping around 3am...
[17:57] <Jucato> I just updated today. before that, no system sounds
[17:57] <Jucato> no startup, minimize, maximize, etc. sounds
[17:57] <nixternal> ahh, I hate them sounds..that is so winme
[17:58] <DaSkreech> Yeah I can see sound packs shipping soon
[17:58] <DaSkreech> Man I hope themes are easier under KDE4 :(
[17:58] <nixternal> how is it I have never had a problem with themes?
[17:58] <Jucato> coz you know what to do? :)
[17:58] <nixternal> they have always just worked for me
[17:58] <nixternal> heh
[17:59] <nixternal> every tarball usually comes with a readme that tells you exactly what to do
[17:59] <Jucato> the kde theming system (specially the theme manager) needs a lot of work to be usable for mere mortals.
[17:59] <Jucato> that's coming from the guy who wrote the doc for theming :)
[17:59] <Jucato> heh you just got the good tarballs..
[18:00] <Jucato> oh and kde-look isn't helping either... practically no QA :/
[18:00] <DaSkreech> He probably made them :-P
[18:00] <nixternal> hehe
[18:00] <Jucato> wouldn't be surprised :)
[18:00] <nixternal> I suck at artwork, so you will never see a theme from me
[18:00] <Jucato> s/made/packaged/\
[18:00] <Jucato> better? :)
[18:00] <nixternal> ya
[18:00] <nixternal> hehe
[18:00] <nixternal> now that I have done
[18:00] <nixternal> but only to share it with the rest of the world
[18:05] <nixternal> ya ya yo yo wheeeeeee
[18:07] <Jucato> O.o
[18:07] <nixternal> oh, looks like I am a Linux+ editor now :)
[18:07] <nixternal> so, start paying $15 USD to read my articles!
[18:07] <Jucato> o.O
[18:07] <Jucato> lol
[18:08] <nixternal> I can wait for this semester to be over with already...I will have so much free time I won't know what to do with myself :)
[18:08] <Jucato> don't do anything with yourself. do something for ________ :D
[18:09] <jpatrick> Riddell: bug 164724 awaiting upload
[18:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 164724 in k3b "k3b-extracodecs missing conflicts and replaces" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164724
[18:10] <nixternal> hehe
[18:15] <Riddell> jpatrick: looks good, uploading
[18:39] <jpatrick> Riddell: thanks
[18:40] <DaSkreech> Night Jucato
[18:40] <Jucato> going to bed DaSkreech?
[18:41] <DaSkreech> Aren't you?
[18:41] <Jucato> not yet
[18:55] <innovati> I've noticed an ubuntu color palette in inkscape and I'm wondering if this is an official colour palette and if so, how important it is to kubuntu artists?
[18:56] <rouzic> hi all
[19:00] <rouzic> Tm_T: ping
[19:31] <Tm_T> rouzic: ?
[19:32] <rouzic> Tm_T: i have a kopete's bug :)
[19:32] <rouzic> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45395/
[19:32] <Tm_T> yay
[19:34] <rouzic> Tm_T: kopete crashes 5 times today
[19:34] <rouzic> Tm_T: in 2/3 hours
[19:36] <Tm_T> rouzic: and if you disable nowlistening plugin...
[19:39] <rouzic> Tm_T: crashes with the plugin disconnect
[19:43] <Tm_T> rouzic: and trace of that?
[19:46] <rouzic> Tm_T: kopete with the plugin enable
[19:47] <Tm_T> rouzic: no, I need trace of crash without plugin
[19:49] <rouzic> Tm_T: okas :)
[19:50] <rouzic> Tm_T: now xD
[19:50] <Tm_T> ?
[19:50] <rouzic> Tm_T: crashes without plugin now
[19:51] <Tm_T> interesting
[19:51] <rouzic> Tm_T: arg, sorry, no disable :s
[19:51] <ryanakca> wow... 55.4% of those surveyed use an Ubuntu variant... http://www.surveymonkey.com/sr.aspx?sm=WE9PoU_2bO_2b9Incc1aPjQTMvqIHQ7sZ6Y5sA1yP920aDE_3d
[19:52] <ryanakca> (at work... 56.1% at home)
[20:53] <jpatrick> Riddell: since we've added support for LUKS in kdebase, could you get kryptomedia past NEW?
[20:54] <buz> jpatrick: did you actually get it to work on hardy?
[20:54] <buz> or gutsy for that matter
[20:54] <Tm_T> Jucato: poke
[20:54] <Jucato> semi-poke-back
[20:54] <Jucato> going to bed in a minute
[20:54] <Tm_T> Jucato: yes, quickie
[20:54] <jpatrick> buz: the cryptosetup thing ruined my usb.
[20:54] <Jucato> yep?
[20:55] <Tm_T> Jucato: you used KDE4 with and without debug?
[20:55] <buz> jpatrick: what do you mean by ruined
[20:55] <Jucato> Tm_T: debugfull and release
[20:55] <Tm_T> Jucato: real difference?
[20:55] <jpatrick> buz: couldn't do anything to it
[20:55] <Jucato> release is a bit faster. haven't checked the size of the dirs
[20:55] <buz> thats really weird
[20:55] <buz> it might break usb storage detection but other than that?
[20:55] <jpatrick> had to format to get it back
[20:55] <Tm_T> Jucato: okie, I have massive loads all the time without cpu or disk usage
[20:56] <Jucato> Tm_T: I really don't have benchmarks or metrics to prove it. but it feels faster
[20:56] <Tm_T> and sluggggish
[20:56] <buz> jpatrick: well obviously you would ;)
[20:56] <Jucato> debugfull?
[20:56] <Tm_T> yup
[20:56] <Tm_T> noo
[20:56] <Jucato> ah
[20:56] <Tm_T> debug
[20:56] <Jucato> er
[20:56]  * Jucato didn't use debug.. used "release"
[20:56] <buz> without kryptomedia or pmount, the system wont even know theres something on there
[20:56] <buz> (which is the whole point of encrypted storage)
[20:56] <Tm_T> Jucato: anyway, there's some weird going on I afraid, but I don't know what
[20:57] <Jucato> perfect for #kde4-krush :)
[20:57] <Tm_T> almost like software accelerated desktop
[20:57] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Sun come up yet?
[20:57] <Jucato> in an hour or so
[20:57] <Tm_T> Jucato: thanks and have good sleep
[20:58] <Jucato> Tm_T: my laptop only uses Mesa for OpenGL :)
[20:58] <Tm_T> Jucato: well I have proper acceleration, and as said, no cpu usage
[20:58] <Tm_T> ooh!
[20:58] <Tm_T> there is
[20:58] <Tm_T> in spikes
[20:58] <buz> Tm_T: what graphics card
[20:59] <Tm_T> nvidia fx5700
[21:00] <buz> oh, i had kinda hoped you'd use intel :P
[21:00] <buz> because so far, i havent been able to get it to do much at all in kde4
[21:00] <Tm_T> umm no, actually nvidia 6600GT
[21:01] <Tm_T> but Xorg seems to hog cpu in spikes, but still, that wouldn't explain all sluggers...
[21:03] <buz> what scheduler
[21:03] <buz> i find that going to a kernel with low-latency desktop scheduler has helped my system in fringe cases
[21:04] <Tm_T> scheduler?
[21:05] <buz> yeah
[21:06] <buz> the standard scheduler is sort of not really desktop oriented ;)
[21:07] <buz> i swear i have had enough of this lousy cable
[21:08] <buz> for months now it stops working about 5 times a day for 1minute
[21:08] <buz> first thing on monday i'm going to get vdsl
[21:14] <Tm_T> sooo
[21:14] <Tm_T> what I can do with this scheduler issue?
[21:14] <Tm_T> I'm not familiar with it
[21:16] <buz> basically you can force the kernel to distribute cpu power more "fairly" (i think time slices are shorter that way)
[21:16] <buz> or maybe its just placebo
[21:17] <Tm_T> but that would not solve the root of this issue
[21:22] <buz> probablynot
[21:23] <Tm_T> oh well
[21:23] <Tm_T> back in KDE3
[21:51] <hunger> Where can I get the Qt4 SQL plugins? They are not in libqt4-sql:-(
[22:29] <Riddell> hunger: /usr/lib/libQtSql.so.4.3.2 not enough for you?
[22:30] <DaSkreech> night
[22:31] <hunger> Riddell: Nope. That is the lib that loads plugins. Not much use without them.
[22:31] <hunger> Riddell: I'm building qt4 myself. I'll provide a diff if that works out.
[22:32] <Riddell> hunger: but it links against libpq and libmysqlclient
[22:33] <hunger> Riddell: Dunno. I tried using QtSql to open a sqlite DB and got an error about the plugin not being installed.
[22:34] <hunger> Riddell: On my other linux system there is /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/sqldrivers and that is missing in ubuntu, so I assume that is the problem.
[22:35] <hunger> OTOH my code might be broken;-)
[22:37] <hunger> Riddell: You might be right: ubuntu's libQtSql links to all kind of DB libs, the libQtSql in gentoo does not. Maybe the stuff is builtin.
[22:53] <hunger> Riddell: You *ARE* right:-( Damn... that implies that my code is buggy:-(
[23:14] <ryanakca> hmm.. RC1 still in progress?
[23:32] <nixternal> hunger: I am trying to build Decibel 0.5 but it crashes out at the end -> http://pastebin.com/m2966dbb1 if you get a chance to take a look at what I might be missing