[00:19] stdin: all new koffice2 on its way [00:20] hello Riddell [00:21] hola chico [00:22] happ turkey day :) [00:22] ? [00:23] for those crazy americans that celebrate thanksgiving [00:23] I see [00:23] just because I can, I just finished a script that should convert users from my ppa to -backports (when all the packages have been backported) [00:23] http://stdin.me.uk/code/revert.tar.gz [00:23] hola everyone! [00:23] hola rich [00:23] should work, right now it just echo's the commands it would run at the end [00:25] jjesse: isn't this just the first turkey fest of two before the end of the year? [00:26] Riddell: yes, thanksgiving day we eat lots of turkey and watch football [00:26] and for christmas we eat a lot of turkey and do the same :) [00:26] meh [00:26] I think I ate 3 or 4 pumpkins :) [00:27] i ate several pieces of pie [00:28] jjesse: those poor old fitba players [00:28] :) [00:38] * stdin dgetlp's koffice2_1.9.95-0ubuntu1.dsc [00:44] stdin: pst, while you're doing that, put the latest webkit package in your archive [00:44] just, y'know, incase it's needed [00:44] k [00:45] in Please upload merge (repository) from Debian () ... is the Ubuntu or Debian version? [00:45] who is our marble guy? [00:45] marble [00:45] marble: error while loading shared libraries: libgps.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [00:46] whopsie [00:47] it should be libgps.so.16 I assume [00:49] ryanakca: what's the context? [00:51] Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging#head-32f94fb74efce0c3a0123e984fc5292245272e32 [00:52] it could be either or... if I had to guess, I'd say debian, but... *shrugs* [00:55] ryanakca: it's the debian version (since it has no XubuntuY in it) [00:55] ryanakca: but if it's unclear, feel free to edit [00:56] Riddell: *nods*, thanks... [01:04] hmmm... aptitude's almost done... *twiddles* [01:04] * ryanakca knocks on wood [01:05] uhh, it'll take about 40mins to upload koffice2... [01:05] wow. [01:05] the .orig.tar.gz is 62.2MB [01:06] stdin: it's big (but still a fraction of openoffice) [01:06] 18% done [01:07] please don't ask me to do openoffice, my modem will die :p [01:09] hi there ! [01:09] this time i've put the version number to -1~ppa1 (it'll be 1.9.95-0ubuntu0~ppa1), so when it get's in to -backports it should just update from that [01:09] as ~ppa1 is less than ~gutsy1 [01:09] erm, greater than [01:17] stdin: so it won't update [01:17] Riddell: so it will [01:17] it wouldn't before because ~ppa1 was greater than ~gutsy1 [01:18] but I took 1 off the ubuntu revision this time [01:19] so I don't have to add it to my insane "move-from-ppa-to-backports" script http://stdin.me.uk/code/revert.tar.gz [01:19] 65.3085% done upload btw [01:19] and 3.3 seconds lag [01:22] * Riddell uploads webkitkde and goes to bed [01:31] koffice2 just finished uploading [02:01] jjesse: I updated Games.xml to include KSudoku and added all of the apps people would like more information on to the kubuntu-extras.xml in our hardy bzr repo, so remember to bzr up when you run in there next [02:02] huh wha? O.o [02:02] :) [02:02] happy turkey night nixternal! [02:02] mmm, turkey [02:02] you made me hungry aga [02:02] in [02:02] Hobbsee!!!!!! *cough* !!!!!!! [02:02] Hobbsee!*!*! :) [02:02] haha [02:03] * DaSkreech blinks [02:03] Did I miss something? [02:04] yeah. you missed Hobbsee entering in all her glory and awesomeness [02:04] * Hobbsee waves [02:04] hi kids [02:04] baaah [02:06] nixternal: that's just disturbing [02:06] http://jaiku.com/image/49/avatar_39749_f.jpg?1195689540 [02:06] haha [02:07] lmao [02:07] tsk tsk... that chicken should be dressed [02:30] can someone take a look at/sponsor bug 164616 please? [02:30] Launchpad bug 164616 in aptitude "Please upload merge aptitude aptitude 0.4.9-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164616 [02:30] ryanakca: ask mvo to sponsor that, methinks [02:30] ok, will do :) [02:37] heh, I'm hogging all the ppa buildds :) [02:38] how many machines do they have for ppa ? [02:39] not sure how many physical machines [02:39] the ppa buildds are xen based [02:39] that's another -10010110101101 for stdin... just for hogging ppa builds [02:40] stdin <3 [02:40] hm, i should throw more of kde thru [02:40] thru the window? [02:40] Hobbsee: marble familiar? [02:40] Tm_T: not really [02:40] okie [02:41] can you run it? [02:41] has anyone used KVM ? [02:41] nixternal: I don't think you can use GNOME panel applets on Kicker, just as you can't use kicker applets on gnome-panel [02:42] I didn't think so, but someone told me they did/could [02:42] I wanted to be nice and not tell him bs [02:42] Tm_T: i dont have kde4 installed [02:42] Hobbsee: no, not kde4 version [02:43] nixternal: yeah. you can let other people just do it for you :) [02:43] hello :) what's the branch for extragear-plasma? [02:43] Hobbsee: Package: marble [02:44] trunk/extragear/plasma <- vorian [02:44] ah! [02:44] duh [02:44] ty ty ty nixternal :) [02:44] vorian: heh [02:44] :) [02:45] kdetoys-kde4 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1 FTBFS. someone, pleasefix [02:45] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdetoys-kde4/4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1/+build/451734 [02:46] as did i386 build of kdemultimedia-kde4 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1 in ubuntu hardy RELEASE [02:46] (on all arches, i expect) [02:46] everything else is pretty much dones. [02:46] -s [02:47] SNAP! [02:47] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10505563/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.kdetoys-kde4_4%3A3.96.0-1ubuntu1%7Eppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [02:48] I told Riddell about it a while ago [02:48] same for multimedia === LongPointyPony is now known as LongPointyStick === LongPointyStick is now known as GoldenPony [02:50] oooh! [02:51] ooooh! [02:51] ponies! [02:52] :P [02:52] OMGWTFBBQPONIES? LOLWUT? [02:53] * DaSkreech chuckles [02:53] Golden :) [02:55] golden fried :) [02:56] Or barbqued :) [02:57] dressed? [02:59] >_< [02:59] !hobbsee [02:59] I phear the stick so shhhhh [03:01] this one's my favourite: [03:01] !installhardy [03:01] Every time you install hardy, Hobbsee pokes a kitten with the long pointy stick of doom! [03:01] dang it I don't like kittens :( [03:02] haha [03:02] but I don't have that many computers to install hardy [03:02] * nixternal is running hardy and it is a slow beast right now [03:03] mine's fine, but i'm only selectively upgrading [03:03] still gutsy KDE4 :P [03:03] it's purring like a cat :D [03:04] prepoke? [03:05] besides, i'm partial to kittens. [03:06] yay! FF crashed! :D [03:06] guys, can anyone here help me out with mounting an osx partition on a dapper livecd in the support channel? [03:06] ryanakca: Pffft [03:06] ...why dapper? gutsy should do that by default, i expect [03:06] I can get Alt+ctrl+del to crash in Vista [03:06] coreymon77: man mount should help you [03:07] DaSkreech: hehe [03:12] Jucato: you using KDE4? SVN? [03:12] yep [03:13] (need to update later though... 2 days old...) [03:13] ah! [03:13] Jucato: yeah, as soon as my dad goes back to work after Thanksgiving vacation... i'm getting RC1 :D [03:13] get svn :) [03:14] Jucato: svn+dialup doesn't work well [03:14] I tried once XD [03:14] oh... [03:14] :/ [03:14] svn up [03:14] beep beep Boop boop schhhhwwwwwiing Bong bong [03:15] only one big d/l with svn, that's why it's so good [03:15] the initial checkout is a beast... co'ing kdebase took longer than compiling it :) [03:15] yup [03:15] Still thinks gentoo with distcc is rad [03:15] but it's fun to wait! [03:15] yeah.... I did it at a freinds house... [03:15] you can use distcc (and icecc) on kubuntu too [03:15] * nosrednaekim <3 cmake [03:16] used it last time I compiled kde svn [03:16] (2 laptops and 1 desktop) [03:16] and the icecc-monitor kept me happy with status info [03:17] !info icecc [03:17] icecc: distributed compiler (client and server). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-2 (gutsy), package size 291 kB, installed size 1040 kB [03:17] icecream [03:17] What's the claim to fame for icecc? [03:17] used by KDE? [03:17] during hackfests/meetings (I think) [03:18] ah that's ice cream [03:18] unless I'm mistaken (which I usually am) [03:19] * DaSkreech smiles at Jucato [03:22] * Tm_T goes compiling KDE4 [03:23] * Jucato goes for lunch [03:24] Jucato: you're not on #ubuntu-ops ? or #ubuntu-irc ? [03:25] Tm_T: what is -irc? [03:25] I was too stunned to ask [03:26] I have heard of -ops, but not -irc [03:26] * DaSkreech is astounded by working on a KDE project where the stuff doesn't work in KDE [03:26] Which reminds me I need to report that konqueror bug that stops me from reporting konqueror bugs [03:26] what project is that? [03:28] for irc ops in ubuntu space, loco channels etc, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/ChannelOperators [03:28] mateedit [03:30] Tm_T: so the -irc is pretty much the same as -ops then i take it..nothing special about it [03:31] no [03:31] -ops is only for channels that IrcCouncil can handle [03:31] (they are not running any loco channels etc) [03:32] namely, for these people (excluding xubuntu?) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCOperators [03:36] ahh, OK [03:40] like, you don't really see users asking ban to be removed in -irc, because it's not for that really [03:44] wooh, koffice2 seems to have built [03:46] ugg, why do these language-pack people insist on locking the i386 buildds for hours at a time? [03:47] with nearly 300 packages.... [03:48] because they like to [03:51] stdin: did you ever get kdenetwork to build? [03:51] kdenetwork wont build yet [03:52] I'd have to backport libvncserver-dev to my ppa, and I'd have to make sure it'll be backported for real too [03:52] Oh its a ppa issue? [03:52] So you can compile it from source just fine? [03:52] no [03:52] may as well get it from hardy, when it goes thru NEW [03:52] mmh [03:53] CPrgmSwR2: I'll look at it [03:53] okay thnx [03:53] Tm_T: would you like the error message I get? [03:53] CPrgmSwR2: the package needs libvncserver-dev from hardy, but I'd need to make sure that it get's backported to gutsy-backports too. don't want to risk conflicting too bad with ubuntu's repos [03:54] err you get errors? [03:54] yes [03:54] why didn't you say so [03:55] Tm_T: wouldn't their be an error if something didn't build [03:55] Or in otherwords how could something not build without an error [03:55] 0551 < CPrgmSwR2> I don't have the error message but basically it will not compile === huahua is now known as Lige [03:56] CPrgmSwR2: you sorta fooled me :p [03:57] CPrgmSwR2: but yes, show me the error [03:57] Sorry [03:57] aah, is that it? [03:58] It looks like from #kde4-devel that QCA is out of date [03:58] meh === Lige is now known as lige [03:58] which is a kubuntu issue [03:59] I think I will just wait until kde4 is released to continue development of kollagame [03:59] not needed [03:59] I relize its not needed [04:00] ? [04:00] nooo [04:00] don't say that [04:00] I am just having issue finding a good setup [04:00] hmm, now why is "0~svn27674-0~ppa1" less than "0~svn27674" [04:00] surely the -0 make's it greater than [04:01] huh, it's the ~ppa1 that makes it less... [04:01] correct [04:01] the 1 mabye [04:02] sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 0~svn27674-0~ppa1 lt 0~svn27674-0 && echo true [04:02] true [04:02] ~ is less than any other character [04:02] yeah, but I thought the -0 would make it greater than no revision [04:03] true, yes. [04:03] oh, hang on [04:03] it's 0~svn..., that's why (I think) [04:03] is kubuntu going to release a kde4 cd on December 12 or not until hardy is released? [04:03] not 0.???~svn [04:03] CPrgmSwR2: yes [04:04] sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 1-0 eq 1 && echo true [04:04] true [04:04] which one? [04:04] CPrgmSwR2: we'll see [04:04] stdin: "-0" is equal to "" [04:04] I see [04:04] see the terminal output [04:05] yeah, I'm using dpkg --compare-versions to check too (ever since I saw you do it a while ago :p) [04:05] :) [04:09] CPrgmSwR2: release [04:09] huh [04:11] DaSkreech: ? [04:12] CPrgmSwR2: you asked if there would be a reelase when KDE4 ships ? [04:12] yes [04:12] will I asked if their would be a cd-rom release [04:13] or a very easy way to install kde4 because I am having all sorts of issues with finding a good kde4 setup [04:14] damn hardy. === GoldenPony is now known as Hobbsee [04:16] well, at least I got koffice2 built [04:16] oh cool [04:17] yay? [04:17] :) [04:17] oooh GoldenPoney morphed into Hobbsee!!! [04:17] stdin: how about amarok? [04:18] hmm, I wonder [04:18] you guys know anything able target disk mode and firewire in here, if so, please help me out in the support channel [04:19] CPrgmSwR2: looks like that'll fail anyway https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/amarok2/+builds [04:19] neat.... [04:19] i didnt think ssh was so painless! [04:19] * stdin <3 ssh [04:19] and especially sshfs :D [04:20] ssshhhh! [04:20] :) [04:22] CMake Error: Could not find Ruby [04:23] I get this error for amarok [04:24] heh [04:24] I installed libruby [04:24] ruby-dev package (forgot the name [04:24] !info libruby-dev [04:24] Package libruby-dev does not exist in gutsy [04:24] bah [04:25] apt-get build-dep amarok ? [04:25] amarok2? [04:25] that works too [04:25] either way [04:27] CPrgmSwR2: the real error is "/build/buildd/amarok2-2.0.0~svn693037/po/ar/CMakeLists.txt:2: Unknown CMake command "kde4_create_po_files"." and I don't know enough about cmake to attempt to fix that [04:28] I can't get paste the ruby error here [04:29] so I can't figure that next part out [04:29] CPrgmSwR2: install ruby? (ruby1.8-dev) [04:30] yay for naming conventions :) [04:30] I just ran "dpkg -l|grep ruby|grep "\-dev"" to get that [04:31] if it's a -dev package, I probably have it installed [04:31] ah, libruby1.8, ruby1.8, ruby1.8-dev... nice :) [04:31] heheh [04:31] I got past it finally [04:31] CMake Error: Could not find REQUIRED package Kcddb [04:31] now I am stuck on this error [04:31] CPrgmSwR2: if what you're compiling usually complains about missing packages, try looking for the -dev version of those packages [04:32] automake is usually more specific, it says missing headers instead of package [04:32] there isn't a folder called kcddb [04:32] but in this case.. hm... [04:32] !find kcddb [04:32] Found: libkcddb1 [04:32] I ran into that 2 months ago.. forgot how I did it [04:32] svn up I think solved the problem [04:33] Oh... I need to install kdemultimedia [04:33] * CPrgmSwR2 goes to compile kdemultimedia [04:33] and libcddb2-dev needs to be installed in order to build libkcddb I think [04:34] kdemultimedia is at 11% [04:34] * Jucato wished he had better luck w/ kdenetwork... [04:34] its a QCA issue [04:34] someone needs to update that package in ubuntu [04:35] stdin: ohoy [04:35] stdin: can you update QCA [04:35] que? [04:36] Can you update the package QCA for kdenetwork [04:37] I can't touch the ubuntu repos [04:37] stdin: did you build kdenetwork with qca? [04:38] Tm_T: well it build-deps on libqca2-dev [04:38] stdin: can you provide the newest qca package in your ppa archive [04:38] so guess so [04:38] stdin: yes, which doesn't build on current svn it seems [04:39] meh [04:39] besides, it needs libvncserver-dev (>= 0.9.3.dfsg.1-1ubuntu1) [04:39] true [04:39] stdin: kdemultimedia is now compiling [04:39] or amarok I mean [04:39] I didn't get that error about kde4_create_po_files or whatever it was [04:39] did you install kdepim [04:40] oops [04:40] I mean kdepimlibs [04:40] it must be installed before anything else except kdeliba [04:40] s [04:40] stdin: do you have amarok2 depending on kdemultimedia? [04:41] CPrgmSwR2: I'm sure the debian guys know what packages depend on what :p [04:41] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/amarok2/+builds < not my built [04:41] hmm... [04:41] that's from hardy [04:42] I'll tell you it's build-deps in a sec... [04:43] Build-Depends: cdbs, cmake, debhelper (>=5), quilt, kdelibs5, kdelibs5-dev, libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev, libtag1-dev (>> 1.4), libmysqlclient15-dev, libpq-dev, libxine-dev, libsdl1.2-dev, libvisual-0.4-dev, ruby, ruby1.8-dev [04:43] that's amarok2 [04:44] yep no kdemultimedia [04:44] Thats the issue [04:44] wait [04:44] where is kdebase? [04:44] so "kde4_create_po_files" is defined in kdemultimedia? [04:45] I think its defined in kdebase [04:45] hmm [04:45] looking for it now [04:46] going to take a while [04:46] using grep -R kde4_create_po_files * [04:48] hmm.... [04:48] I cannot find it [04:50] well that needs to be fixed before we can try to build it [04:52] I cannot find that declare anywhere on my system [04:53] Oh I know why [04:53] Jucato: google search for krushdays [04:54] that has to do with language stuff [04:54] DaSkreech: tomorrow [04:54] And I don't have po = polish encoding installed [04:54] Jucato: It's a 4 second query :) [04:54] stdin: still here [04:54] I'm always here [04:55] even when I'm not [04:55] :) [04:55] anyways its a translation thing [04:55] I know [04:55] po = translations [04:55] * Jucato thinks that's what the "po" means [04:55] bah.. need to type faster [04:55] stdin: it probably requires a translation package [04:56] well, if you find what one I can get it to build :p [04:56] http://www.google.com.jm/search?q=krushdays&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a [04:57] it be borken. [04:58] I have a feeling that will be but one of many errors for amarok2 anyway [05:01] stdin: amarok2 should build just fine for you [05:01] What's Ampache? [05:01] I'm sure I could get it to build on my pc, but that's not the point ;) [05:02] # ome/kde-devel/kde/src/KDE/extragear/multimedia/k3b/libk3b/videodvd/k3bvideodvd.cpp:29:32: error: dvdread/dvd_reader.h: No such file or directory [05:02] okay where do I get dvd_reader.h [05:02] !find dvdread/dvd_reader.h [05:03] * stdin guesses libdvdread-dev [05:03] File dvdread/dvd_reader.h found in libdvdread-dev [05:03] let's see [05:03] WOOH! [05:03] :) [05:04] http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=KDE4+krushdays&btnG=Search&meta= [05:04] Ha ha ha ha ha ha [05:04] heh [05:05] guess google gets a lot of searches for "kde 4 crashes" [05:06] http://fbsd.za.net/2007/06/04/kde4-crashes-applications-beautifully/ <--- this is interesting [05:07] http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=KDE4+krushday&btnG=Search&meta= [05:07] CPrgmSwR2: indeed [05:07] CPrgmSwR2: Problem is when the program fixes itself [05:08] Oh oops [05:08] it could peice itself back together [05:09] 70% on amarok [05:10] does anyone know if the *buntu kernels have linmodem support ? [05:10] I didn't know linmodem exists [05:16] yeah 95% on amarok [05:16] I hate telling people they have to recompile the kernel just to go online [05:16]