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abyssionhey00:00
WaltzingAlong!cube | abyssion00:00
ubotuabyssion: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »00:00
WaltzingAlong!compiz > abyssion00:01
abyssioncompiz ?00:01
WaltzingAlongabyssion: the cube is one of the effects possible through compiz-fusion. you would need to 1) get 3d accelerated drivers for your video card working, 2) get compiz-fusion working, and 3) configure the cube effect00:02
joseph_is there a compiz channel?00:02
WaltzingAlongjoseph_: yes see ^^00:02
joseph_lol00:02
WaltzingAlong#compiz-fusion00:02
joseph_well ok i have a question then00:02
alexbobpI just got a usb headset.  I can get Audacity to use it with OSS.  How can I make ALSA use it?  I just need to change the device from /dev/dsp to /dev/dsp100:02
joseph_i have my cube set up but i want a cool environment for the cube, the area outside the cube00:03
joseph_how can i do this?00:03
WaltzingAlongjoseph_:  /join #compiz-fusion00:03
* Dr_willis will be glad whenpeople get sick of that silly cube00:04
alexbobpbut it so pretty!00:04
Dr_willisOf course NEXT will be the 'fish tank' cube00:04
Dr_willischeck the compiz-fusion homapage for all your Cubby Needs!00:04
WaltzingAlongagreed: for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/00:05
Dr_willisWell Crysis is installed.. and first thign! bam  - it wants a windows update. :)  which will want a reboot...00:05
ardchoilleDr_willis: :)00:05
alexbobpI retract my question.  Turns out I just had to restart the sound server and the programs that were using it.00:06
Dr_willisardchoille,  and  http://www.ea.com/crysis/home.jsp web site - wants my birthday since the site has 'mature content' - Yea right.00:06
Dr_willisI bet i am the only 103 yr old gamer on that site! :000:06
ardchoillelol00:07
Dr_willisand of course the 'patch' i need.. requires i download some windows validation activex controll.. and go through 4 other popups..00:08
Dr_willisgesh00:08
Dr_willisPerhaps i will get to play the game some time Today...00:08
ardchoilleDr_willis: I like the "move with the mouse" navigation00:08
WaltzingAlongDr_willis: apparently you paid for it already, not really important that you actually play it ...00:09
Dr_willisyep..00:09
Dr_willisNow i gotta reboot.00:09
Dr_willisOh wait.. the 120gb hd i got is still formating...00:09
Dr_willisben doing that since befor i logged in here.  so thats been what? an hr+ :)00:10
WaltzingAlongnot a fast format? :(00:10
Dr_willisi wanted to be doubly sure it checked out. :)00:10
WaltzingAlong:D00:10
JackWinterhiya, where do i find a driver fo a pixma ip4200 printer? or is the ip4000 driver good ?00:10
Dr_willisthe hd sort of died on me last night. So now its going to be a 'windows games drive'00:10
Dr_willisJackWinter,  check cups.org for that printer.00:11
Dr_willisI know that SOME canon pixma printers have no linux support at all.00:11
Dr_williscups.org will tell you if the 4000 driver will work00:11
JackWinterthanks dr_willis!00:11
Roeyhi00:12
RoeyI try to load an .ogg in Amarok but get this message:  "Error Loading Media00:12
RoeyThere is no available decoder.00:12
Roeyfile:///arch/music/israeli/Kaveret/Kavaret Ba Park - Disc 1/Track 02.ogg"  What the heck is this about?00:12
WaltzingAlongRoey: in konsole run            file "/arch/music/israeli/Kaveret/Kavaret Ba Park - Disc 1/Track 02.ogg"      what are the results?00:14
Roeygood point00:15
Roeyone sec00:15
Roey/arch/music/israeli/Kaveret/Kavaret Ba Park - Disc 1/Track 02.ogg: Ogg data, Vorbis audio, stereo, 44100 Hz, ~256000 bps, created by: Xiphophorus libVorbis I (1.0 RC2)00:16
Roeyseems kosher00:16
Roey(pardon the pun)00:16
WaltzingAlong:D00:16
WaltzingAlongok having anything else that can play it? ogg123 for example in konsole00:17
Roeyok one sec.00:17
WaltzingAlongRoey: by the way i have not seen amarok fail with a ogg vorbis00:18
WaltzingAlongan*00:18
Roeyhrm00:18
Roeyit seems to show that it is processing the data but it's trying to use OSS00:18
Roeyand I want it to use ALSA.00:18
WaltzingAlongRoey: so you can specify: amarok / settings / configure amarok / engine / xine engine - output plugin alsa00:20
Roeyit's already set up that way.00:20
Roeywith Amarok, it just throws up this error message.00:20
Roeywhen I try and play the file.00:20
WaltzingAlongRoey: perhaps check in #amarok  has it always done this, just started?00:21
elliottKubuntu has locked up 4 times in the last week at seemingly random times... It happened a few minutes ago, and as i was here typing up a qiestion about it, it happened again. no error messages, no common task being done, etc. any idea what's going wrong?00:22
elliottdmesg00:22
RoeyWaltzingAlong:  not sure.00:22
RoeyAmarok is great but sometimes it can act like a pos00:23
Arv3namarok is a pos00:23
RoeyI checked in #amarok, only one person is active there00:23
Arv3njust kidding. ;)00:23
RoeyKonqueror too00:23
Roeyegven more so than amarok00:23
WaltzingAlongelliott: bad ram00:23
Arv3nband of brothers = win00:23
elliottWaltzingAlong It never happens in windows though.00:25
WaltzingAlongelliott: ok so just x is freezing or everything? could be buggy module (driver)00:26
elliottWaltzingAlong how can I tell?00:27
WaltzingAlongelliott: well let your computer run the memtest86 one night. otherwise, experiment with different scenarios to eliminate some possible culprits; like start without X or switch to the vesa or open source video drivers; overheating?00:28
navetswhat is the difference between kubuntu DVD and kubuntu live cd?00:29
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WaltzingAlongdvd contains more packages / languages and can be run live (and then installed) or installed right away (without running live);00:33
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ratttshey can linux get viruses00:34
Roeyrattts:  different secirty model00:34
WaltzingAlong!viruses00:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about viruses - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:34
excitatorydoes anyone know if taskbar-compiz works on gutsy?  and if so, does anyone know of a repo or deb?00:35
ratttsyesterday, my wireless gateway told me i might have a blaster virus...then today my ubuntu cRASHED and acting a little wierd00:35
WaltzingAlongrattts: technically possible00:35
ratttsor can it just be compiz that may have caused all this?00:35
WaltzingAlongcompiz!00:36
alexbobpJust out of curiosity, does anybody here have positive opinions on the replacement of konq with dolphin as the default file manager?00:36
WaltzingAlongit was not installed as standard in kubuntu gutsy for a reason ;)00:36
WaltzingAlongrattts: but i doubt you will ever see a virus/worm on your gnu/linux based kubuntu install00:36
WaltzingAlongalexbobp: could be that those of us here are more technical or have been using kde for a bit longer, since before dolphin00:37
ratttsmy comp crashed when i was installing(sudo apt-get install kde-desktop)  what should i do?00:37
ardchoillerattts: kde-desktop isn't in the repos, try: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop00:38
WaltzingAlongrattts: retry sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop00:38
alexbobpWaltzingAlong: I just have yet to see anything redeeming about dolphin.  Every difference between the two seems to make konqueror look better.00:38
X314hey.. just a question.. is gutsy suposed to totaly lock in "wrong password" or whatever it says mode if you type in your password wron once on the login screen?00:38
ratttsok hold on. im speaing of junk files here. there may be junk files on my comp since it was downloading the files when it crashed00:38
ratttscan i do a purge on kubuntu-desktop00:39
WaltzingAlongalexbobp: i have yet to give dolphin a chance myself but i could see how it may be easier for new users of kubuntu00:39
WaltzingAlongrattts: sure   sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop00:39
ratttsis aptitude same as sudo apt?00:39
alexbobpWaltzingAlong: do you know how to configure the "system menu" locations to open in konqueror?00:39
WaltzingAlongno00:40
WaltzingAlongalexbobp: check in #kde ?00:40
Arv3ni think dolphin just looks betetr. =P00:40
WaltzingAlong!aptitude | rattts00:40
ardchoillerattts: If you used apt-get to install: sudo apt-get remove --purge package00:40
uboturattts: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide00:40
alexbobpwill do00:40
excitatoryalexbobp: i actually really like dolphin, however i refuse to use it until it has 'tree view'.. i just cannot function without it...00:41
ardchoilleI am told that dolphin has a tree view. But  I refuse to use it until it has a tabbed ui00:43
Arv3nam i the only one that hates konqueror? o_o00:43
Arv3nlove kde, hate konqueror.00:43
excitatoryardchoille: yes, tabs are key as well.. that was the other thing i forgot00:43
Arv3nimo, file manager is fine.00:44
excitatorykonq is a horrible web browser, but really works well as a file manager for my purposes.00:44
Arv3nbut the file manager and browser really should be separate.00:44
Arv3nand hte browser version is horrible.00:44
Arv3nyeah.00:44
Arv3nkde 4 is sexy.00:44
Arv3nim gonna be one of the early adopters. =P00:44
alexbobpexcitatory: My main gripes with dolphin are that it can't have tabs and that it doesn't have a disk space analyzer00:44
WaltzingAlongactually i find myself using konqueror more and more for web browsing (had already been using it as file manager - when i manage files through a gui)00:45
alexbobpArv3n: why should a file manager and browser be separate, and what's wrong with konqueror's browser?00:45
Arv3nkonqueror supports nothing00:45
excitatoryWaltzingAlong: but it renders everything funny..00:45
Arv3nalexbobp, just imo, its what im used to.00:45
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alexbobpkonqueror isn't just file manager+browser, it does all sorts of things.  It has embedded plugins for everything from videos to text editing.00:45
cucoboy, kde4 stinks00:46
Arv3nim downloading the daily vm00:46
cucoi tested on real machine, and the new style is practically unusable.00:46
ardchoillealexbobp: konqueror is a shell for many things00:46
cucoi rolled back to plastik00:46
Arv3nthis is exactly how i thought people would think kde4 would be like.00:47
Arv3nsome people would like, some would hate.00:47
Arv3nkind of like oblivion and halo 2, lol.00:47
cucono dud, it has a lot of problems,00:47
ardchoilleWait until it's finished, then it should be much better00:47
Arv3nthats an opinion.00:47
ardchoillecuco: it's an rc1, it's going to have problems00:47
Arv3n+, it can only get better from here.00:47
cucofor example there is no contrast in the theme, there is no clear definition of the current widget/window00:47
Arv3nexactly ard,00:48
Arv3nthey arent even done doing plasma yet.00:48
cucothe sound theme is just anoying00:48
Arv3n4.0 is more of an "ok herse what weve done, now its time to bug fix" type of thing00:48
Arv3n4.0 = core technologies working00:48
Arv3n4.1 = polish00:48
WaltzingAlongthe lack of ability to have a contrast is far worse than a current theme not making use of proper contrast00:48
cucodud, i know00:48
Arv3nit really is nice.00:49
Arv3njust give it time.00:49
Arv3nand if you dont like it, stick with kde 3.500:49
Arv3nor gnome (LOL)00:49
ardchoilleWell, dolphin and system settings are the first two things I'm going to rip out00:49
WaltzingAlongxfce00:49
Arv3nxfce is damn good.00:49
ardchoillexfce is quite nice00:50
Arv3nyou'd be surprised.00:50
Arv3nit just feels like its missing something, though. not sure what.00:50
WaltzingAlongi typically switch xfce to kde and so on00:50
Arv3nwell.00:50
Arv3nxfce = has built in transparency and composite manager, right?00:50
WaltzingAlongyes00:50
cobaltI heard that there was an app called ek something that could be added to Gutsy Gibson to send faxes could someone help me find it if there is such a thing ?00:50
Arv3n+1 for xfce, lol.00:50
WaltzingAlongkde3.5 does transparency too00:51
Arv3nits not really very developed though is it?00:51
ardchoilleArv3n: kde 3.5.7 has a built-in composite manager. I use it for drop shadows, transparency, effects, etc.00:51
Arv3npeople say kde looks really nice, imo its really ugly.00:51
Arv3nunless you customize it a LOT.00:51
Arv3nbut then when you customize it, damn its sexy.00:52
excitatoryArv3n: yea, i find i have to shrink the fonts, install a new iconset, change colors, shrink and move panels, change default konq views/sizes, and arrange a few other things just to feel at home.. but when i do, you're right, it's sexy.00:54
ardchoilleexcitatory: You can do all of that in seconds with a master bash script/00:54
WaltzingAlongcurses to those developers who knew not enough to pick the settings you would like?00:54
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ardchoilleexcitatory: When I do a new install, I run a master bash script that does all the app install and tweaking, while I have lunch. When I come back, the system is ready for me.00:55
Arv3nlol, nice.00:55
excitatorynice00:55
ardchoilleThis is why a fresh install only requires me to be in front of the computer for about 10 minutes.00:56
excitatoryi sort of do that too.. i have a file that has about 6 or so nice one liners that i run.. nothing that configures any kde config files, but symlink and app install stuff.. (i'm still refining this said 'master script')00:56
ardchoille:)00:57
ardchoilleOf course, you can lessen that time even more by putting $HOME on it's own partition00:59
Arv3nd/c.00:59
Arv3nor something. o_O00:59
ardchoillelol01:00
cobaltlooking for a fax utility ?01:00
ardchoille!info kfax01:01
ubotukfax: G3/G4 fax viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 146 kB, installed size 448 kB01:01
ardchoilleWaltzingAlong: ty01:02
cobaltubotu: does that allow the sending of faxes through a fax modem ?01:02
cam_anybody have a ralink card?01:02
Arv3ncobalt, ubotu = bot01:03
ardchoille!bot01:03
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:03
cobaltardchoille: ty01:03
ardchoilleyw01:04
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bobito_Hey ya'll.  I'm on a new kubuntu box, and I'm having difficulty connecting to the internet (normally).  Normally, I have a winXP box set to bridge the network connection from its wireless to lan.  However, when I plug my kubuntu box into the XP box, it can't find any internet, and to be honest, I don't know enough linux to know where to go from there01:11
bobito_any help?01:11
cam_what are u trying to do?01:12
bobito_connect to the internet, on a gutsy machine01:12
bobito_connect my cat5 into an xp box, while that xp box routs internet from its wireless01:12
bobito_I have the xp box set up right, dunno how todo the linux part01:12
cam_the xp is gettin internet from the wireless?01:13
bobito_XP should be fine01:13
cam_and u wana route it through to the linux box?01:13
bobito_yup01:13
bobito_already took care of the XP box (i do believe), but when I plug in the linux box to the xp, nothing detects01:14
bobito_am i missing a step?01:14
cam_u did the internet connection sharing on XP?01:14
bobito_yup01:15
bobito_well, network bridge, but about the same thing01:15
cam_configure the interface manually on the linux box and put the IP address of the xp box where it says gateway01:17
bobito_how do I do that?01:17
tekstacyIs there a single package with all the popular restricted codecs? I'm about to do a fresh install.01:17
WaltzingAlongtekstacy: kubuntu-restricted-extras01:17
tekstacyCool, thank you.01:18
bobito_could you at least point me to what to google for that?01:18
cam_do u know where the network manager is?01:18
tekstacy:)  I have turned another away from the dark side01:18
bobito_yea, in the systems menu01:19
bobito_KNetworkManager01:19
cam_yea01:19
cam_set up the interface there01:19
bobito_I would love to01:19
bobito_but everything is grayed out and all it says is no active device01:20
sykehi01:20
cam_hmm...01:20
bobito_I should mention01:20
sykemy adept (and apt-get) are having trouble updating my kde4 beta 3 install to RC101:20
bobito_the entire reason I have to do all this shizzle01:20
bobito_is because HP sold me a broken laptop, ie, the wireless card has been fried since day 101:20
cam_type iwconfig in the terminal and see what it says01:20
bobito_and they won't fix it01:20
bobito_thats what I always assumed that was about01:21
bobito_iwconfig gives back01:21
sykeI get 4 or 5 errors like this one:01:21
tekstacyWaltzingAlong, damn, I wish I knew that a while back....01:21
sykeUnpacking kde-icons-oxygen (from .../kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb) ...01:21
sykedpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb (--unpack):01:21
syke trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/apps/phonon-xine.png', which is also in package kde4base-data01:21
WaltzingAlongtekstacy: i think it was new with gutsy01:21
bobito_http://pastebin.com/m316d877201:22
tekstacyoh.01:22
sykebut I can't seem to remove the previous kde4 package01:22
bobito_cam_: http://pastebin.com/m316d877201:22
cam_ur connecting to the XP box through the wierd interface right?01:23
bobito_not at the moment01:23
bobito_I would love to do that though01:23
cam_then how?01:23
WaltzingAlong!brokenkde4 | syke, pastebin the results of that command01:23
ubotusyke, pastebin the results of that command: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »01:23
cam_well ur trying?01:23
bobito_cam_:right now I'm right into a switch that goes into a modem01:23
WaltzingAlongsyke: otherwise just add the failing packages to the list of those to be removed (the other kde-icons-oxygen ones, for example)01:24
tekstacyThis kid wants me to set him up a system for web browsing and music recording and editing. Beyond Firefox and Audacity, anyone have a word of wisdom?01:24
cam_try ifconfig01:24
Roeytekstacy:  nice nick01:24
sykeWaltzing: ok, thanks!01:24
Roeytekstacy:  not textacy ?01:24
ardchoilletekstacy: I would suggest to find out how he likes to handle the web browser and then find some cool extensions for firefox. Tba Mix Plus is a good extension.01:25
ardchoille*Tab01:25
bobito_cam_: http://pastebin.com/m79fd02e001:25
ardchoilletekstacy: An id3 tag editor?01:25
tekstacyyeah, I use that too. He uses firefox on xp now, so that makes that a bit easier01:25
ardchoilleyeah01:26
tekstacyGood idea01:26
ardchoilletekstacy: kid3 is good01:26
tekstacycool, thanks01:26
ardchoilleyw01:26
cam_hmm... i kno how to do it from kubuntu to XP not too sure about XP to kubuntu01:27
mike-kubuntuhow can i get bin2iso for kubuntu 7.10?01:30
ardchoille!info bin2iso01:30
ubotuPackage bin2iso does not exist in gutsy01:30
WaltzingAlongtekstacy: squid as a caching proxy01:31
tekstacyI havn't tried squid yet. I have heard of it. Does it really make a big difference01:32
bobitocam_: You still here?  Sorry for the pause, believe it or not, kubuntu just crashed on me01:32
BluesKaj!squid01:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about squid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:33
tekstacyshhh, don't say that01:33
ardchoille!info squid01:33
ubotusquid: Internet object cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.14-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 627 kB, installed size 1580 kB01:33
darkness_hi01:33
ardchoillehi darkness_01:33
mike-kubuntuanyone know where i can find the source for bin2iso?01:33
ardchoilleHello darkness_ my old friend..01:33
darkness_hi ardchoille01:34
BluesKaj"i'd like to be with you again "01:35
ardchoilleBluesKaj: Shh, You're giving away our age01:35
ardchoillelol01:35
bobitoAlright everybody, listen up.  I needs myself some help getting kubuntu to recognize that it can infact, get internet from the network bridge I set up on my XP box.  It has thus far refused to do so, and my KNetworkManager is of no help since it either just failes to launch, or gets all pissy that my wireless card has been DOA since day 101:35
bobitoanyone brave enough to help?01:35
BluesKajardchoille, you started it ...we must carry on :)01:36
ardchoillehehe01:36
BluesKajardchoille, I have the album on vinyl ...believe it or not01:37
WaltzingAlongtekstacy: maybe not a big difference but for frequently visited sites or slower connections... but in either case actually a dns cache may yield better results ("more responsive internet")01:37
ardchoilleoh, in that case  s/our age/your age/  :P01:37
bobitoanybody?  pretty please?01:37
bobitowith a couple of cherries on top?01:38
ardchoillelol01:38
tekstacyCool, I will give it a try01:38
BluesKaj<---retired for 8 yrs ...not shy to tell ppl I'm 64 and still rockin' and rollin'01:38
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WaltzingAlongtekstacy: bind9 for dns and read the docs for setting it up as a caching dns01:39
mike-kubuntuanyone know how to deal with bins and cues?01:39
MyNameIsURLhey all01:39
bobitodon't bother mike, they ain't helpin today01:40
ardchoillebobito: Just because no one has answered your question doesn't mean another person won't get help. Please be respectful.01:40
WaltzingAlongbobito: this is #kubuntu support01:41
BluesKajardchoille, AAMOF, jamming tomorrow... been in the same band for 17yrs :)01:41
bobitowaltzingAlong: And I have a kubuntu problem.  It won't detect an obvious internet connection01:41
funcrushGood morning~*01:41
MyNameIsURLdoes anybody have any idea about how to install the drivers for a Broadcom 802.11g WiFi card?01:41
BluesKaj!broadcom01:42
ubotuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx01:42
WaltzingAlong!iso | mike-kubuntu, check the list01:42
ubotumike-kubuntu, check the list: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.01:42
MyNameIsURLi'm running Kubuntu Feisty Fawn01:42
WaltzingAlongbobito: wifi? results of ifconfig ?01:42
bobitoWalktzingAlong: ifconfig results are here http://pastebin.com/m79fd02e0, but this laptop has no wireless card, and is right now only plugged right into a router01:43
WaltzingAlong!wifi | MyNameIsURL, either bcm43xx or ndiswrapper01:43
ubotuMyNameIsURL, either bcm43xx or ndiswrapper: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:43
MyNameIsURLthank you01:43
MyNameIsURLI should have thought to ask the friendly channel bot01:44
tekstacyMyNameIs, I had one of those cards, under 6.10, it was easier to just get a better card01:44
WaltzingAlongbobito: ok so eth0 is 192.168.0.110  what was not working? ping to router? dns?01:44
MyNameIsURLwhat's a better card?01:44
MyNameIsURLI have an HP laptop01:44
MyNameIsURLthe card can be removed01:44
MyNameIsURLI been thinking about getting an 802.11n capable card anyway01:45
WaltzingAlongMyNameIsURL: i have had success with bcm43xx for broadcoms in a gateway and emachines01:45
tekstacyI have an intel n card, works fine, nothing to set up01:45
tekstacyJust take a look at the hardware compatability list01:45
bobitoWaltzingAlong: Right now I'm plugged into a switch, and everything works fine, except of course that I don't have a wireless card.  Because I don't have a wireless card, I've set up a network bridge on an XP box that does.  When I take the cat5 from my kubuntu box out of the switch, and put it into the XP box, it doesn't detect automatically connect, despite the fact that I'm pretty sure I set the XP up correctly01:45
bobitoWaltzingAlong: Your last statement flew completely over my head01:46
bobitoWaltzingAlong: I really am too new to linux to know anything more than I just typed, so I'm just looking for someone to point me in the right direction01:46
tekteenAnyone know where kubuntu keeps the kde default settings?01:46
MyNameIsURLtekstacy: what's the model # of your Intel card? Is it a new card, still available?01:46
tekstacyum, if you are connecting JUST two boxes together, you need a different cable01:47
WaltzingAlongbobito: so the xpbox is running ICS ? then when you move the cable run   sudo dhclient eth0  in konsole01:47
MyNameIsURLyo need a crossover cable to connect 2 macnines01:47
WaltzingAlongtekstacy: my systems do not need crossover cables :D01:47
cobaltMyname is URL: Ubuntu 7.10 has the drivers built in01:47
bobitoWaltzingAlong: The XP box is running a network bridge, not quite the same thing, but similar.  Does it matter?  what should I be looking for when i run sudo dhclient?  I have to disconnect from internet to try it01:48
MyNameIsURLwell if the card is configurable to implement the crossover then of course you don't need one01:48
tekstacyhmmm, ok, I was wrong, I don't have n, it's a 3945abg01:48
cobaltMyName: I had that same problem with my hp lappy01:48
MyNameIsURLyeah?01:48
WaltzingAlongbobito: well from where should the kubuntu machine get its eth0 ip? normally a dhcp server but you can set it manually.01:49
MyNameIsURLI  guess I'll have to open up the panel and look at the card to get the model #01:49
tekstacyohh, crap, I got the two of you mixed up. :)  I thought you were the one with the problem...01:49
mike-kubuntuWaltzingAlong: thanks!01:49
tekteenAnyone know where kubuntu keeps the kde default settings?01:50
cobaltMyName: no version of Ubuntu before 7.10 would pick it up.  I did get it working with the ndiswrapper function using windows drivers but that was a pain in the $%@#$%@.01:50
WaltzingAlongtekteen: for your user? ~/.kde01:50
tekteenno01:50
tekteenkde has to get the contents of .kde from somewhere.01:50
tekteenthat is what I need01:51
tekstacyMyNameIsURL, you can go to KInfoCenter and find the model of your card01:51
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cobaltMyName: The other thing I had to do was to treat the HP wireless chip as Eth01 not any kind of wifi.01:51
WaltzingAlongtekstacy: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/ ?01:52
tekteenI looked01:52
tekstacy:) ?01:52
tekteenand my name is tekteen lol01:52
tekteenhi tekstacy01:52
WaltzingAlongah sorry01:52
tekteennp01:53
WaltzingAlongboth appearing in the same color too!01:53
* tekstacy passes tekteen a beer01:53
tekstacyer, nevermind01:53
* tekteen is scared mom will find out01:53
tekstacy:)01:53
bobitoWaltzingAlong: I just did a quick little bit of research, and apparently, XP doesn't forward dhcp information, so is there a way to simply set my eth0 ip to the static IP of the XP box, the one that should be being passed on to the linux machine anyway?01:53
cobalttecstacy: do you know a utility that will set up as a printer but send out faxes.  I remeber one called EK- something that was located at a repository called Universe or Universal.  Im an old goat and my memory is slipping any help would be appreciated.01:55
WaltzingAlongbobito: yes there are simple ways to set the static IP. could do so graphically through kmenu/system settings / network settings / network interfaces               or manually editing /etc/network/interfaces01:55
MyNameIsURLbcm 430601:55
WaltzingAlong!find fax01:55
ubotuFound: kfaxview, acfax, asterisk-app-fax, capi4hylafax, courier-faxmail (and 12 others)01:55
MyNameIsURL!bcm430601:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bcm4306 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:55
MyNameIsURLthat's the model card I have01:55
cobaltMyName: let me fire up my lappy and I will get you the name of the driver.01:56
tekstacycobalt, sorry, never needed to send a fax yet01:56
bobitoWaltzingAlong: So simply hitting configure interface in Network settings, and checking manual sets a static ip?01:56
WaltzingAlongbobito: yeah set the interface to manual (not dhcp)01:57
bobitoWaltzingAlong: alright, let me try that.  Wish me luck01:57
cobaltanybody else ?01:57
tekstacyMyNameIs, under an earlier version, I had to use ndiswrapper to use the windows driver01:57
cobaltteckstacy: It's good to see that someone else shared my nightmare01:58
tekstacyit sucked. Is there a better way now?01:59
WaltzingAlongsame here - much easier to set up with ndiswrapper with feisty and very easy now with bcm43xx on gutsy01:59
darkness_sMyNameIsURL: bcm43xx acts weird on my laptop01:59
darkness_si prefer ndiswrapper01:59
cobaltI will have that driver name in a moment02:00
tekstacylook on ebay and you can pick up an intel card for a few bucks.02:00
darkness_sis it bcmwl502:00
darkness_sthe windows driver02:00
cobaltno its "bcm43xxfirmware.tar"02:03
tekstacyGoodnight all.02:05
tekteennight02:05
tekstacyquit02:05
tekstacycrap, sorry. hoorid little keyboard02:05
tekstacyg'nite tekteen02:06
cobaltdarkness: It is a little strange on mine too you have to set up the wireless as Eth01 to get it to work after you have done this firmware mod02:06
cobaltanybody here tried to send a fax from Ubuntu 7.10 ?02:07
pacmanI'm trying to set it up so that everytime I download a torrent, it automatically goes into ktorrent02:08
ardchoillepacman: You could go into file associations and associate ktorrent with the proper torrent files extension02:09
darkness_scobalt : maybe gfax could help02:11
cobaltThx but not exactly what I am needing is a fax printer program02:14
cobaltLike the one in M$ XP02:14
WaltzingAlong!info efax | cobalt, and efax-gtk02:16
ubotucobalt, and efax-gtk: efax: programs to send and receive fax messages. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.9a-19 (gutsy), package size 107 kB, installed size 300 kB02:16
cobaltefax-gtk is the one I remember where can I find it?02:16
WaltzingAlongcobalt: sudo aptitude install efax-gtk                   or through adept manager02:17
cobaltk thanks02:17
rattswhy are there no close or minimize buttons on the top right corner of any of my windows???????????//02:17
WaltzingAlongratts: compiz?02:17
rattsyes02:17
MyNameIsURLbcm43xxfirmware.tar?02:18
WaltzingAlongratts: then you shall find support in #compiz-fusion :D   otherwise run         kwin --replace &          in konsole02:18
MyNameIsURLWhere can I find that?02:18
rattsi went there. no one helped02:18
MyNameIsURLthey're pretty cool in there02:18
rattsok ya that worked02:18
rattsbut no more compiz lol02:18
WaltzingAlongof course. kwin is a window manager. compiz is a window manager. only one is allowed to manage the windows at a time02:19
cobaltWaltzing along: Done thanks again02:19
rattshow do i instal a kde theme?02:19
WaltzingAlongratts: well at least you know it was a compiz issue. maybe there are specific workarounds or settings ...02:19
WaltzingAlong!themes  | ratts02:20
uboturatts: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy02:20
rattsprobably02:20
rattsi found my themes lol02:20
rattsi want to install the,02:20
rattsthem02:20
WaltzingAlong!changethemes | ratts02:20
uboturatts: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes02:20
rattsthanx02:20
rattsumm that didnt help...says go to system>preferences>themes....but thats what i do on gnome...im on kde02:21
WaltzingAlong"The KDE Theme Manager is not directly available through Kubuntu's System Settings" ... is it available indirectly through kubuntu's systemsettings? nope, not available at all through systemsettings. one could fire up kcontrol though02:21
WaltzingAlongfollow the second link, "kubuntu themes"02:21
rattsi did02:22
rattskubuntu themes shows me the themes for gnome for some reason02:22
WaltzingAlongratts: here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu ?02:23
ratts]found it thanks02:23
darkness_show can i install gtk+-2.0?02:31
darkness_stoo many packages contain gtk on the name02:31
WaltzingAlongdarkness_s: what are you looking for, exactly?02:32
darkness_sim trying to compile something, and it ask for gtk02:34
WaltzingAlongdarkness_s: libgtk2.0-dev ?02:36
darkness_sPackage gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.02:37
darkness_sPerhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'02:37
darkness_sto the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable02:37
darkness_sNo package 'gtk+-2.0' found02:37
WaltzingAlong!info libgtk2.0-dev | darkness_s02:39
ubotudarkness_s: libgtk2.0-dev: Development files for the GTK+ library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.12.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 2588 kB, installed size 9132 kB02:39
darkness_sok thank you02:39
darkness_si have to leave02:39
MyNameIsURLhey, how can I kill a particular thread that's running?02:39
darkness_sbyw to everybody02:39
MyNameIsURLbye darkness02:39
kib1please i need02:40
WaltzingAlongMyNameIsURL: graphically through ksysguard02:40
kib1help02:40
kib1i just upgrade to kde this day02:40
kib1and all was working great02:40
kib1but i cant hear anything02:40
kib1:(02:40
WaltzingAlong!enter | kib102:40
ubotukib1: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!02:40
kib1what can i do_02:40
WaltzingAlong!sound | kib102:41
ubotukib1: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:41
MyNameIsURLfor some reason, when X windows starts, the same few apps get launched and come up every time02:41
MyNameIsURLI want to kill the wallet, but I don't know the name of the thread02:42
cobalt.02:42
kib1sorry for write in many lines, yes arts is running and i have amarok02:42
WaltzingAlongMyNameIsURL: those are saved as a session. you can control sessions through the session manager02:42
WaltzingAlongMyNameIsURL: open kcontrol   then search for session, open the session manager02:45
kib1some answer??? when i had gnome i used to hear music well02:45
MyNameIsURLdamn bwb!02:45
biovorekib1: kill arts02:46
biovorekillall artsd02:46
biovorehave amarok use alsa02:46
tekteen!helpersnack | WaltzingAlong02:46
ubotuWaltzingAlong: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!02:46
bryanhi everyone. i am a supern00b and i need someone to take me under their uber wings02:46
WaltzingAlongtekteen: thanks02:46
tekteenbryan: ask away02:46
bryanthanx tek02:46
bryanok i have ati radeon x1600 graphics card02:47
MyNameIsURLyeah WaltzingAlong and tekteen, you guys are both very helpful02:47
MyNameIsURLappreciated02:47
bryani know about all of the pain it is to install driver02:47
bryani have kubuntu 7.10 and trying to get compiz to initiate02:47
WaltzingAlongwelcome to the kommunity :D02:47
tekteenMyNameIsURL: thanks02:47
bryanit wont start. HELP02:47
WaltzingAlongKubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | bryan, how far were you getting?02:47
kib1biovore:so i cant use both thats my problem?? i had to uninstall arts or alsa to resolve it ??02:48
bryanwell its installed but it says i dont have xgl02:48
MyNameIsURLanybody know the Name of the thread responsible for the KDE Wallet?02:48
bryanand no whitelist driver found02:48
WaltzingAlongbryan: basically three steps. 1) install 3d accel drivers for your video card, 2) install compiz, and 3) configure compiz02:49
WaltzingAlongbryan: which video card?02:49
bryanthats what i figured. ati radeon x160002:49
WaltzingAlongMyNameIsURL: kwalletmanager --kwalletd02:49
tekteenbryan: open a konsole and type "sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl"02:50
WaltzingAlongfglrx 8.42.3 (this one supports AIGLX) howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide (for 3d support on older radeon cards, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver for data) | bryan or using the fglrx available with ubuntu then you need to install xserver-xgl02:50
MyNameIsURLnot seeing it in the process table02:50
tekteenbryan: then logout and log back in02:50
MyNameIsURLguess I'll just command-line it02:50
bryanok its saying cant find package xserver-xgl02:50
tekteenok02:51
tekteen!repo02:51
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:51
WaltzingAlongMyNameIsURL: in konsole, ps aux | grep wallet02:51
bryando i not have it in repository list02:51
WaltzingAlong!info xserver-xgl02:51
ubotuxserver-xgl: GL-based X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.99.1~git20070727-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 1696 kB, installed size 4404 kB02:51
WaltzingAlongbryan: 'universe' needs to be enabled02:51
bryanok can u help me there please02:51
tekteenok02:51
bryanhow do i do that waltzing02:52
WaltzingAlongthough with the 8.42.3 version of the fglrx module/driver, xserver-xgl is not needed02:52
tekteennope02:52
tekteenstill need it02:52
bryan<<< confuzed02:52
WaltzingAlongah but the 8.42.3 driver supports aiglx02:52
tekteenok02:52
MyNameIsURLkill kwalletd doesn't work02:53
WaltzingAlongbryan: follow this to enable universe   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:53
tekteen!compiz02:53
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion02:53
WaltzingAlongMyNameIsURL: killall kwalletmanager02:53
MyNameIsURL"kwalletmanager: no process killed"02:54
bryanok i enabled universe02:55
kib1thanks very much for your help02:55
WaltzingAlongbryan: then update then install xserver-xgl02:55
WaltzingAlongMyNameIsURL: was it running?02:55
bryandoing that now waltzing02:55
bryanthank you so much btw02:55
WaltzingAlongMyNameIsURL: results from ps aux | grep -i wallet02:55
WaltzingAlongwelcome!02:55
bryanok waltzing now what02:56
MyNameIsURLWaltzingAlong: 6676  0.0  0.0   2880   804 pts/5    R+   20:56   0:00 grep -i wallet02:56
WaltzingAlongMyNameIsURL: ok so no others running02:57
WaltzingAlongMyNameIsURL: just your search for wallet02:57
WaltzingAlongbryan: installed xserver-xgl ?02:57
MyNameIsURLhmmm02:57
WaltzingAlongthen follow the rest of the steps at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion02:57
bryanyes02:57
bryanbut when i try compiz yet it still says no xgl02:58
Rukusanyone know anything about enabling Direct Rendering on an xpress 200m? using proprietary driver with fglrx02:58
bryan<<<<<<<<UBER NOOB02:58
WaltzingAlongbryan: you would need to restart X (log out, log in)02:58
WaltzingAlongand kill X02:58
WaltzingAlongbetween with ctrl+alt+backspace02:58
bryanok brb i know how to do that02:58
WaltzingAlong!ati | Rukus02:59
Radi01Murderer.02:59
ubotuRukus: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:59
Radi01loo02:59
WaltzingAlongRadi01: he wakes again quickly02:59
Dr_willisRukus,  i see a lot of people asking about that.. and i even have a x200m. Not sure its easially doable. :) I havent got it done yet.02:59
Rukusi know how to install the drivers and i have gone thought it many times, i just dont see Direct Rendering working02:59
Rukusoh ok Dr_willis02:59
WaltzingAlongRukus: and the error that shows in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?02:59
Rukusi "heard" it couldnt be done, and i also "heard" it had been done02:59
Rukusi am not sure how03:00
Rukushow do i find that error?03:00
Dr_willisRukus,  googling now found this info  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34114903:00
JmA___I´m having problems configuring wireless connection in ubuntu 7.04. The first one is that when I connect to a network, it asks me the password, and a put the correct one, but it keeps asking me forever.. and the second is that my network is not dhcp, and ifconfig <inter> my ip appears doesn´t work with network manager... Can anyone help me? Tks03:00
asdfasdfasdfasdfhello im trying to install kde 4 rc 1, im following the official guide so when i type : sudo make install on dbus it says : kde-devel is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. can u help me plz? thanks :)03:00
biovoreasdfasdfasdfasdf: add kde-devel to admin group03:01
biovoreasdfasdfasdfasdf: in /etc/groups03:01
biovoreerr group03:01
tekteen!ati | tekteen03:01
asdfasdfasdfasdfnano /etc/groups?03:01
WaltzingAlongasdfasdfasdfasdf: just add the stuff from your regular user then use the kde-devel account only for hacking at kde03:02
biovoreasdfasdfasdfasdf: I think its /etc/group  but yeah.. add kde-devel on to the admin:<stuf> line03:02
RukusWaltzingAlong i cant find any error in that log ....03:02
Rukusi just know it isnt enabled by viewing  glxinfo03:02
WaltzingAlongRukus: mind sharing it and /etc/X11/xorg.conf via !pastebin ?03:03
asdfasdfasdfasdflol hacking, so that means i dont need kde-devel i can install it from my simple normal user WaltzingAlong ?03:03
JmA___anyone can help me with network manager?03:03
biovoreyeah.. ati sucks most of the time.. some cards work ok.. alot don't..03:03
WaltzingAlongasdfasdfasdfasdf: sure follow the instructions at kubuntu.org any user on the system could use it03:03
Rukusyou want both that log and my xorg conf?03:04
Rukusok03:04
Rukusgive me a couple mins03:04
MyNameIsURLWaltzingAlong: I terminated the session using session manager03:04
MyNameIsURLnow I'm going to reboot03:04
MyNameIsURLI'll talk to you all tomorrow, most likely03:04
MyNameIsURLthanks again for the help03:04
MyNameIsURLl8r03:04
WaltzingAlongMyNameIsURL: well you know where to find the #kubuntu kommunity ;D03:04
WaltzingAlonguntil then!03:05
RukusDr_willis thanks for that link, but i am a little iffy on running random scripts, being new to ubuntu, i dont wanna accidentally  rm - rf anything haha03:05
jmichaelxif any in here use an rt2500 based wireless card, could you please tell me what you do to make it work well in gutsy? one of the very most frustrating things to me about *ubuntu, is how something like a wireless crad will work in one version of the OS, not in the next, but will work again in the next....03:05
Rukus!pastebin03:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:05
Dr_willisRukus,  personally.. with a x200 being such a low end video card.. i wouldent even bother with the compiz stuff03:06
Dr_willisand i havent messed with it on my laptop. :)03:06
Rukuscompiz works, dont get me wrong. just not all the effects and its implied to me if i enadle Direct Rendering, i might boost performance03:06
Rukusenable*03:06
WaltzingAlonginstalled it. oh that is it? removed it (disabled for now)03:06
Dr_willisthe things people do for wiggly windows. :)03:06
WaltzingAlong;d03:07
Rukuslike,  relfection .... once i enable that, computer goes "poop"03:07
jmichaelxactually, i have a radeon 9000 on my other desktop, and i use it & compiz-fusion on a 22" wide-screen monitor with OS drivers with no problem at all...03:07
biovoreDr_willis: If I want wiggle blue windows.. I use windows XP with a deguser running near by on a CRT :-P03:07
jmichaelxin fedora 803:07
Rukusyah, and an xpress 200m is equivalent to x300 pci xpress03:07
Rukusi also have 128mb dedicated video ram03:08
Rukusok one sec getting pastebin03:08
inaetyHello i just got a new monitor and its native resolution is 1680x1050 but i want to make it higher than that but even after adding resolutions in my xorg.conf and running nvidia-xconfig, i can't change the resolutioj03:08
inaetyresolution03:08
WaltzingAlonginaety: in konsole, xrandr        shows what?03:08
Rukusinaety - if its an LCD, you cannot havea higher res than native. from what i understand03:08
Rukusatleast i cant03:09
Rukus:(03:09
Dr_willisRukus,  i belive so also.. ALSO anything higher will look rather nasty i bet.03:09
jmichaelxinaety: if 1650x1080 is the monitor's native resolution, i would think you should not increase it beyond that03:09
inaetyRukus: its an lcd03:09
Rukusstuck at 1280x800  trust me i tried03:09
Rukusnative res is high as u can go03:09
Rukusgoogle it03:09
Dr_willislcd's best at their actual native res.03:09
inaetyoh okay03:09
Rukus:)03:09
inaetyit still looks nice i just like a lot of screen03:09
Dr_willisyou are using a dvi connection?03:09
Rukusi never tried in linux tho03:09
Rukus...03:09
Rukusok brb03:10
inaetyDr_willis: yeah03:10
inaetyvga is all screwed up03:10
Dr_willisinaety, dvi blows vga away. :)03:10
inaetyDr_willis: i was hoping.  everything is so clear now, i just got rid of a 7 year old 17 inch03:11
Dr_willisI got 2 monitors on this box right now.  - that gives me a real real real wide screen heh.03:11
inaetywhat size are they03:11
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Dr_willisone is a 22" other is a 19"03:11
Dr_willisboth are widesrceen03:11
Azzco"mkdir: cannot create directory `grub': Input/output error" Help?03:11
inaetyyeah03:11
inaetymine is 22 inch, and im happy ^_^03:11
Dr_willisAzzco,  what command are you doing exactly?03:11
inaetythank god for Black Friday :P03:11
WaltzingAlongAzzco: mkdir grub ? mkdir grub/ ?03:11
Dr_willisinaety,  yea. the 2nd lcd was a spare i had.03:11
AzzcoDr_willis: "mkdir grub"03:12
Dr_willisAzzco,  you need root permissions to make files/dirs in 'system' type places03:12
WaltzingAlongAzzco: have permission to write to the device?03:12
AzzcoI've used sudo su03:12
WaltzingAlongmounted as readonly?03:12
Dr_willissudo -s  - is a better habbit then 'sudo su' :)03:12
Dr_willisAzzco,  so where are you trying to make this directory at? and why.03:13
AzzcoI thoguht I'd make a new boot partition as I'm trying a few different distros right now...03:13
Dr_willisI think some day - the ubuntu/kubunu guys should put a bunch of Bash tutorials on the disks. :)03:13
AzzcoIt's a clean partition I'm trying to make the dir on03:13
Dr_willisAzzco,  ive done that befor.. it can take some work. I normally let one disrto handle grub totally.03:14
RukusWaltzingAlong: here is the xorg.conf : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45651/  and here is the xorg.0.log : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45650/03:14
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WaltzingAlongRukus: thanks03:14
Dr_willisAzzco,  you did fdisk, then format the partion? thus making a actuual filesystem?03:14
Dr_willisthen you mount the filesystem somewhere.03:14
Rukusthank you.03:14
AzzcoI used parted and made it ext203:14
Dr_willisYou did format it? You did mount it?03:15
AzzcoYupp03:15
AzzcoThere is even a kernel image there I added about 15 minutes ago03:15
Dr_willisyou sure theres not a grub directory allready? :)03:16
WaltzingAlongsudo su then cd takes you to a different directory than you may expect as normal user and cd03:16
AzzcoNope... just a symlink to itself and a lost+found03:16
Dr_willissymlink to itself?03:17
WaltzingAlongAzzco: hm03:17
Dr_willistry 'touch test_file' to see if you can create a file on the filesystem03:17
WaltzingAlongcannot make it if it exists03:17
AzzcoOkay touch worked... weird03:17
Dr_willistry 'mkdir test_dir' :)03:18
AzzcoNope making dirs doesn't work it seems..03:18
Dr_willisthats... weird..03:18
AzzcoWas just thinking the same..03:18
Dr_willisi would check how its mounted.03:18
Dr_willisls -l , to see who owns the files also., and dirs that are there.03:19
dannybuntucan anyone help me?03:19
Dr_willisI cant think of a way to disable making of dirs.. :) so cant think of what to look for.03:19
WaltzingAlongdannybuntu: with?03:19
Dr_williswe dont have ESP dannybuntu  :)03:19
tekteen!ask | dannybuntu03:19
ubotudannybuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:19
AzzcoDr_willis: root owns everything and the only dir is the lost+found03:20
WaltzingAlongnot all of us anyway03:20
WaltzingAlongKubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | dannybuntu03:20
dannybuntuaight - my computer keeps on saying that adept is running03:20
Dr_willis!adept03:20
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto03:20
Dr_willisfixadept03:20
tekteen!adeptfix03:20
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »03:20
Dr_willis!fixadept03:20
Dr_willisheh03:20
Dr_willisbe sure all the package manager type programs are closed.. only ONE is to run at a time03:21
AzzcoI'll try to reformat that partition...03:21
WaltzingAlongRukus: have you tried adding a 'dri' module? in xorg.conf03:21
Dr_willisthat includes apt-get, and aptitude, and synaptic, and adept, and.. others that i cant rember. :)03:21
WaltzingAlongdpkg03:21
dannybuntuwell yes. i killed them all03:21
RukusWaltzingAlong: no i have not03:21
tekteenthen use the command03:22
Rukusi dont even know where to put it03:22
dannybuntui was trying to run automatix203:22
WaltzingAlongok i will send it to you03:22
dannybuntui did a :ps ax | grep adept03:22
boblenyHey, I have an issue... I am unable to access phpmyadmin, it says, "The configuration file now needs a secret passphrase (blowfish_secret)." I looked it up online and all I could find was to change a line of code in a config file. Well when I checked the file, it was already changed.03:23
dannybuntuoh btw dr_willis helped me backed then03:23
WaltzingAlongRukus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45652/03:23
asdfasdfasdfasdfWaltzingAlong: i got to this cs # see above03:23
asdfasdfasdfasdfwget http://dbus.freedesktop.org/releases/dbus-glib/dbus-glib-0.74.tar.gz03:23
asdfasdfasdfasdftar -xvzf dbus-glib-0.74.tar.gz03:23
asdfasdfasdfasdfcd dbus-glib-0.74/03:23
asdfasdfasdfasdf./configure --prefix=$DBUSDIR03:23
asdfasdfasdfasdfmake03:24
asdfasdfasdfasdfsudo make install03:24
asdfasdfasdfasdfcb03:24
asdfasdfasdfasdfsudo chown -R kde-devel:kde-devel * if u see the final line it says kde-devel since im not that one i changed it ton the one im using (nico) so i put this instead of the final one sudo chown -R nico:nico *  but it now gives me the following error :"cannot acced to '*' the file or directory does not exist"03:24
asdfasdfasdfasdfsorry 4 the translation i got it in spanish :)03:24
dannybuntuok there - it worked03:24
AzzcoDr_willis: Problem solved with a reformat.. Nasty thingy there though03:24
WaltzingAlongasdfasdfasdfasdf: *.* ? or specify -R and a directory like .03:24
asdfasdfasdfasdfO.O03:25
asdfasdfasdfasdfpardon me?03:25
AzzcoDr_willis: Thanks for the help ;)03:25
dannybuntubrb03:25
boblenyMan, dr_willis is here again! Does he ever leave.......03:26
asdfasdfasdfasdfu mean sudo chown -R <directory> WaltzingAlong  ?03:26
WaltzingAlongRukus: and here is the error: line783   (EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727)  / line 784 (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software renderin03:26
WaltzingAlongasdfasdfasdfasdf: well with the owner name in there too and directory could be . which is current directory03:26
asdfasdfasdfasdfi guess /home/nico03:26
asdfasdfasdfasdfthe default one i never used cd but theres rhe command cs, so dunno03:27
asdfasdfasdfasdfthe*03:27
RukusWaltzingAlong: i run XGL-server.  should i run aiglx?  i am confused what the erro means and what i need to do to fix it03:27
JmA___Anyone can help me with network wireless connection.. ive already have wireless card configured, but network manager can´t connect to my network03:27
chris__is your router a netgear?03:28
JmA___mine?03:28
chris__yeah my wireless works great for everything but netgears for some reason03:28
alex__someone of Brazil?03:28
JmA___no .. its encore03:29
Dr_willisHmm.. wow - i just found a HUGE example of "game company stupidity' - Dang serial # was using 0 and O's :) and the font w made them almost identical.03:29
JmA___for some reason my auth doesnt work03:29
Dr_willisbobleny,  Just for you. :) i will go play bioshock now for a while. heh03:29
WaltzingAlongRukus: if you are going to use xserver-xgl (not aiglx) then you could specify aiglx as off in xorg.conf03:29
JmA___but if i try to connect behind the screen asking me the password again, it works!03:30
boblenyNever heard of it.......03:30
chris__try changing the router security settings to open or no security and see if oit works then.03:30
WaltzingAlongRukus: by the way which version of the fglrx module is this?03:30
Rukuswaltzing along, i read that xgl runs a little better for my chipset03:30
Rukushow do i find what version?03:31
JmA___yeah .. alredy tryed... but i got another problem.. my network is fixed ip, so roaming mode doesnt work03:31
WaltzingAlongRukus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45653/ here aiglx is disabled03:31
chris__Your best bet is to do a google search.  I found step by steps for everything03:31
RukusWaltzingAlong: OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)03:31
Rukusthat?03:31
chris__good luck03:32
JmA___so I ve setted every manually, but it doesnt work03:32
WaltzingAlongRukus: yes. fglrx 8.42.3 can use aiglx (does not require xserver-xgl)       but try with the server flag disabling aiglx for now03:33
Rukusok, so after i add "Option "AIGLX" "off""  i need to ctrl alt bckspce and see what happens correct?03:33
WaltzingAlongRukus: yes03:34
nzkWhat does it mean to dump one's core and trace one's stack?03:34
WaltzingAlonggather debugging data03:34
Rukusok i will brb WaltzingAlong: closing all apps and restarting X-server03:35
Rukusif i dont come back, i am restoring my xorg.conf blindfolded. ATI cars dont display terminal properly full screen03:36
Rukuscards03:36
Rukuslol03:36
Rukusbrb03:36
WaltzingAlongRukus: :D ok03:36
Rukusok03:40
Rukusno DRI03:40
Rukuscompiz looks a little different03:41
WaltzingAlongwell how about the new log?03:41
Rukusok one sec03:41
Rukusxorg.0.conf03:41
Rukuscorrect03:41
Rukuserr .log03:41
WaltzingAlong/var/log/xorg.0.log03:41
Rukusok03:42
Rukusi got xorg.1.log and xorg.9.log... why?03:42
Rukusi do have the one u want tho03:42
asdfasdfasdfasdfWaltzingAlong: do u know how lond does it take to download qt?03:42
Rukus!paste03:42
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:42
WaltzingAlongasdfasdfasdfasdf: no. connection speed. server speed. distance. so on03:42
asdfasdfasdfasdflol i know estimated03:43
asdfasdfasdfasdf640 k <=== sucks03:43
asdfasdfasdfasdf:)03:43
RukusWaltzingAlong: here is the log:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45654/03:43
alex__join kubuntubr03:43
WaltzingAlongyeah still do not know, size/speed = time ?03:45
WaltzingAlongRukus: in konsole, glxinfo | grep -i direct03:46
WaltzingAlongRukus: this log shows (II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering enabled03:46
RukusXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".03:47
Rukusdirect rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)03:47
WaltzingAlongok pastebin that output           in konsole, LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo03:47
Rukusok03:47
RukusWaltzingAlong: here is the output  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45655/03:49
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homercyclesHello. I'm in dire straits, I just started to install kubuntu, then it put the monitor to sleep, and now won't even boot into Windows XP. I've booted off the live CD again, installer still shows prior partitions, but "fdisk /dev/sda" says "Cannot open /dev/sda". Anybody know how I can restore my boot sector?03:51
homercyclesit was when I finished the installer's questions and click Next when t was about to do the partitioning that it keeled over and put the monitor to sleep. I'm not game enough to go through the wizard again in case it makes the situation worse03:51
=== morphine is now known as morphinex
WaltzingAlongRukus: ok and the output of LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose fglrxinfo03:53
asdfasdfasdfasdfWaltzingAlong: sorry i need to ask it my friend, are u using kde 4?03:53
asdfasdfasdfasdfsorry culdnt resist :)03:53
WaltzingAlongasdfasdfasdfasdf: i have it installed here yeah03:53
WaltzingAlongasdfasdfasdfasdf: but am now in a kde3.5.8 session03:53
asdfasdfasdfasdfomg03:53
asdfasdfasdfasdfWaltzingAlong: so tell me how does it feel?03:54
WaltzingAlongso i lauch an app here and there, was in the full kde4 session03:54
asdfasdfasdfasdfcool03:54
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ciaconhi all03:55
WaltzingAlongasdfasdfasdfasdf: get your feet wet :D03:55
homercyclesclicking on my existing NTFS partitions in Dophin also says "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999" as well :-(03:55
asdfasdfasdfasdfWaltzingAlong: loooooooooool03:55
RukusWaltzingAlong: here is the pastebin:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45656/03:55
asdfasdfasdfasdfthat says a lot :)03:55
WaltzingAlonghomercycles: in konqueror media:/ right mouse click the device, properties, mounting, uncheck mount as user03:55
WaltzingAlongRukus: even that one is reporting ati as the opengl provider  (would be mesa if it were *not* direct as far as i know)03:56
ciaconI have a little q - for some reason I managed to brick Strigi - Status tells me -> "Unique words indexed  -1" & "Documents indexed  -1"03:56
homercyclesWaltzingAlong: thanks, not sure how to get into konq as a file browser off this Kubuntu live CD (seems web browser only). but Dolphin has such an option, too... same error after I unticked user03:56
ciaconcan someone give me a hint?03:57
Rukuswell, i think i am going to try what that guy did, in your pm you sent me03:57
WaltzingAlonghomercycles: open konqueror. in the location/address bar, type media:/                       or settings/load view profile / file browsingg03:57
Rukusand see what happens03:57
WaltzingAlongRukus: wait a moment03:57
Rukusk03:57
WaltzingAlongRukus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45657/ added drm to the modules03:58
homercyclesWaltzingAlong: thanks. Did that and Konq seems to have remembered that preference after I unticked it in Dolphin. Still same error... Do you think it's possible that the Kubuntu installer has mangled my partitions and subsequently can't mount anything?03:58
RukusWaltzingAlong: what did you add??03:59
Rukusline 123?03:59
WaltzingAlongline 123 load drm03:59
Rukusok03:59
WaltzingAlonghomercycles: this hal-storage.. is a common one03:59
homercyclesWaltzingAlong: don't suppose there's a common workaround for it? apart from that mount as user option?04:00
pacmanso I downloaded totem, and tried to play a video04:00
WaltzingAlongRukus: unless you tell me you have vga out and dvi out, using dvi ;)04:00
pacmanand I got this message: The playback of this movie requires a Advanced Streaming Format (ASF) demuxer plugin which is not installed.04:00
Rukussay what?04:00
biovore!restricted-formats04:00
Rukusits a laptop04:00
WaltzingAlonghomercycles: not that i know. when you get the system set up that change should be remembered04:00
homercyclesWaltzingAlong: I'm hoping to mount those drives and backup the data across the network since 'm worried Kubuntu installer has rendered my partitions unusable04:00
biovore!restricted04:00
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:00
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WaltzingAlonghomercycles: well from just that message there is not enough to know that the ntfs partitions are empty or unusable04:02
RukusWaltzingAlong:  restart X-server?04:02
WaltzingAlongRukus: yes04:02
Rukusok brb04:02
homercyclesWaltzingAlong: the wizard still shows my existing partitions but fdisk can't open /dev/sda (I was hoping to set XP as active and then reboot).04:02
ciaconcan someone help me with strigi?04:02
WaltzingAlonghomercycles: qtparted should be on there too; could set that partition active from there04:03
i_want_kde_4WaltzingAlong: i finished donloading qt and it says nico@nico-desktop:~/qt-copy$ make -j204:03
i_want_kde_4no objdir found. Tried /home/nico/qt-copy04:03
i_want_kde_4what now? :)04:03
homercyclesWaltzingAlong: thanks. will try that04:03
jmichaelxif any in here use an rt2500 based wireless card, could you please tell me what you do to make it work well in gutsy?04:03
WaltzingAlongi_want_kde_4: not interested in installing rc1 through the existing kubuntu packages?04:04
homercyclesWaltzingAlong: qtparted sayd currently active partition was "No Active on Drive" and is allowing me to set active to /dev/sda1. Thankyou very much. I'll give that a shot04:05
i_want_kde_4WaltzingAlong: pvm blocked04:05
i_want_kde_4WaltzingAlong: invite me :) and is it possible?04:05
RukusWaltzingAlong: still no Direct Rendering04:05
WaltzingAlongi_want_kde_4: well either build following http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4      or yes just install the existing rc1 http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php04:06
WaltzingAlongRukus: ok how about the log again just for kicks and by the way does it seem like there is direct rendering eventhough there is the report to the contrary?04:06
Rukusi dont know04:06
WaltzingAlongRukus: glxgears for example04:06
Rukusok one sec04:06
Rukus0105 frames in 5.1 seconds = 1999.880 FPS04:07
Rukusmaybe?04:07
Rukuslol04:07
WaltzingAlong2000fps04:07
WaltzingAlong:D04:07
* i_want_kde_4 grabs a shotgun ans shoots himself :S04:07
Rukusbut compiz sucks, my transparent taskbar has borders04:07
Rukusits not supposed to?04:08
i_want_kde_4WaltzingAlong: didnt know about that ill try that super easy way thank u sooooo much :)04:08
WaltzingAlongi_want_kde_4: :D04:08
WaltzingAlongRukus: i do not know about that04:08
Rukus1440 frames in 5.3 seconds = 273.026 FPS04:08
Rukusthas full screen04:08
Rukuswhat did adding module "drm" do for me?04:09
usamahashimiHelo everyone!04:10
i_want_kde_4sh1t happens i under feisty should it work if i use gutsy repository?04:11
WaltzingAlongRukus: direct rendering module04:11
WaltzingAlongi_want_kde_4: oh! under feisty04:11
i_want_kde_4yup04:11
usamahashimiI am facing a problem, recently I have installed kubuntu on my pc, when I want to access files on my network which are shared, my system is asking for password, i entered the password but it is not accepting, can anyone help me?04:12
WaltzingAlongi_want_kde_4: maybe you could run a chroot gutsy just for that. i do not think it has been backported to feisty04:12
Rukusi am going to try without it, i think my transperancy worked better before?04:12
i_want_kde_4ooops :(04:12
i_want_kde_4chroot gutsy? on konsole?04:12
WaltzingAlongusamahashimi: and the computer sharing the files? windows? samba? had you set a password there?04:12
WaltzingAlong!chroot04:12
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box04:12
* jmichaelx grabs a shotgun and aims for his gutsy install cd04:13
WaltzingAlongi_want_kde_4: yeah then you could build according to the other site i sent04:13
i_want_kde_4thats what ive been doing04:13
i_want_kde_4:)04:13
i_want_kde_4and :(04:13
i_want_kde_4xD04:13
Rukusbrb04:13
usamahashimiWaltzingAlong: yes, these computers run windows, i installed samba at my system and also set user/password for it04:14
WaltzingAlongi_want_kde_4: well i have found the steps at the techbase site easy to follow04:14
i_want_kde_4yup the are easy04:15
i_want_kde_4except for the unknown errors :(04:15
WaltzingAlongusamahashimi: so in konqueror     smb://user@192.168.0.100        then it should ask for the password04:15
usamahashimiWaltzingAlong: no, it is not asking for any password, an empty page appears04:16
usamahashimiWaltzingAlong: and an error comes, "timeout server"04:17
i_want_kde_4well i tried cd # Note: qt-copy lives in $HOME/qt-copy. See $QTDIR in .bashrc04:17
i_want_kde_4svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/qt-copy04:17
i_want_kde_4cd qt-copy04:17
i_want_kde_4./apply_patches04:17
i_want_kde_4./configure -qt-gif -no-exceptions -debug -fast \04:17
i_want_kde_4 -prefix $QTDIR -nomake examples -nomake demos04:17
i_want_kde_4make -j2 and i got the following error: no objdir found. Tried /home/nico/qt-copy04:17
WaltzingAlongusamahashimi: well of course you need to change the number to one to which you wish to connect; and you can specify both username and password there with smb://username:password@host04:17
ciaconhi all - I managed to brick STRIGI - can anyone give me some help/advice04:18
ciacon?04:18
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usamahashimiWaltzingAlong: lemme check04:18
WaltzingAlongciacon: which issue with strigi?04:19
WaltzingAlongi_want_kde_4: sorry, not really the place for that. maybe in #kde04:19
usamahashimiWaltzingAlong: its still asking for password and not accepting my password04:19
pacmananyone have good knowledge of ktorrent04:19
WaltzingAlongusamahashimi: ok i would guess an issue on the server side04:19
i_want_kde_4k thanks 4 ur time i appreaciate it WaltzingAlong u rock! =P04:20
WaltzingAlongcheers and good luck with kde4!04:20
i_want_kde_4if u need anything just aks bro :)04:20
RukusWaltzingAlong: so we should infer that my card is operating correctly?04:20
Rukuseven tho it tells me it is not?04:20
usamahashimiWaltzingAlong: but all other windows machines can access each other without any problem?04:20
WaltzingAlongha really up to you04:20
WaltzingAlongusamahashimi: then i suppose you ruled out server error04:21
WaltzingAlong!samba04:21
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT04:21
ciaconWaltzingAlong: I built the DB - which sounds good, but an Index the size of 1,8GB seemed odd - anyway - I restarted my box and now it tells me, "Documents indexed  -1" and "Unique words indexed  -1"... how can I re-init the DB??04:21
usamahashimiWaltzingAlong: thanks, lemme check these04:21
WaltzingAlongciacon: are the files in ~/.strigi ?04:21
ciaconWaltzingAlong: yup04:21
WaltzingAlongciacon: could delete ~/.strigi   (or move it elsewhere ~/.strigi_broken)04:22
Rukuswhat the hell. glxgears runs fast then slow, as my cpu fan gets loud to quiet. why no consistincy?04:22
WaltzingAlongdemand based throttling?04:22
Rukusi have no idea04:23
Rukusprobably some kind of power saving feature04:23
homercyclesWaltzingAlong: just wanted to say thank you very much for your help. your suggestion to use qtparted worked a treat. I am now busily backing up my hard drives. :-)04:23
ciaconWaltzingAlong: that did the trick - it's re-indexing - but is an index of 1,8GB on 400GB home-dir ok?04:23
WaltzingAlonghomercycles: great :D glad you did not lose any of the data04:23
homercyclesWaltzingAlong: you've rekindled my appreciation for Linux (and the Linux community) today. Thanks again. Bye04:24
WaltzingAlongcheers bud ;)04:24
WaltzingAlongciacon: something to redirect to #strigi ?04:24
WaltzingAlongpersonally not using 'desktop search' nor strigi at this time04:25
Kr4t05Does anyone know why Gutsy has broken the xpad360 driver?04:25
ciaconWaltzingAlong: let's see...04:28
ciaconWaltzingAlong: thanks anyway04:28
posingaspopularhow do i configure konversation so when i close it, it will go to the task bar and not kill the app completly04:29
posingaspopularis it 'enable system tray?'04:30
geniienable system tray04:30
posingaspopularah okay. thanks genii04:31
RukusWell, reflection looks so cool, but i guess i just cannot run it on my computer04:31
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Rukusmaybe i shall try reinstalling04:31
geniiWell  I'm just looking at that myself to see if it works LOL04:31
RukusWaltzingAlong: i use the proprietary driver, with xserver-xgl  apparently its the best for the xpress 200m, is that an ok setup tho?04:32
Chasehey. I'm having some major problems with apt-get update and just about anything else that has to do with downloading anything through konsole. Can anyone help?04:32
Chaseanyone?04:34
maduserwhats the problem?04:34
ChaseWhen I try to use apt-get for anything (automatix for example) I get tons of 404 errors and nothing downloads correctly04:35
maduserlet me see04:35
maduserhmmm04:36
Chaseare you getting my messages?04:37
maduser?04:37
Chaseor do I have to do them in the main window because I am unregistered04:37
maduseropen a query04:37
maduseryeah04:37
maduserregister04:37
Chasesorry. I'm new to IRC04:38
maduseryo automatix is not apperaring in adept04:38
maduserso04:38
maduseri don't think that program exists04:39
astro76!automatix04:39
ubotuautomatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »04:39
maduseryeah04:40
maduserthats why04:40
ChaseI just installed kubuntu (used ubuntu before) and had similar issues.04:40
Chasedownloading wise04:40
Chasenot just automatix04:40
maduserare using the program adept?04:40
ChaseI need to see if I can get those errors again04:40
Chaseyeah04:40
maduserdid you install java yet?04:41
Chaseno04:41
rayluChase, if apt is giving you 404 errors04:41
Chasefresh install04:41
rayluit's probably because it's having trouble accessing the pages via HTTP04:41
raylucan you view pages in firefox/konqueror?04:41
Chaseyep04:41
rayluo.004:42
Ahmuckis there a reason that kubuntu firefox "sudo aptitude install firefox" requires so much krap?04:42
rayludoes apt-get update work?04:42
Chasebut I'm having another weird occurance. Now that I connected to IRC, things are starting to download correctly04:42
rayluAhmuck, like what?04:42
rayluChase, at my university, we have to authorize with the network before we can download anything, so i get similar errors from apt04:42
Ahmuckseriously, like ubuntu, gnome, etc.  the list was super duper long, and this is the first package on a default install04:42
madusertry downloadinf sun-java6-jre and sun-java-plugin04:42
Chaseah04:43
madusertry downloadinf sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin04:43
Ahmuckfor example "software sources" and "add/remove programs" all from ubuntu04:43
rayluAhmuck, were those to-be-installed or held back?04:43
Ahmuckto be installed04:43
rayluAhmuck, for an update or just firefox?04:43
Ahmuckkubuntu needs to really look at package management "depends" that ubuntu is doing04:43
Ahmuckyes, just the install for firefox04:43
rayluit wasn't that long for me04:43
raylukubuntu and ubuntu use the same package management04:44
Ahmuckyes, and i am beggining to see a problem with it :-(04:44
rayluoh, firefox is gtk, so you'll need a little less on ubuntu I guess04:44
rayluwhat's the problem?04:44
Ahmucki don't need all the *buntu stuff, just firefox.  it's not really all that hard.04:44
raylulol04:44
rayluyou didn't get all the ubuntu stuff04:45
rayluyou do need gtk, though04:45
rayluwhich in turn requires it's own list of dependencies04:45
Ahmuckbut i hate to build something i already have a package for unless the package requires all the other packages in the known universe -- sheesh04:45
rayluhuh?04:45
rayluyou never need to build anything04:45
maduseryou need gtk for a ton of other stuff04:45
rayluespecially if you already have the package installed04:45
Ahmuckyes, a "megaton" of other stuff, which, again, i don't understand why.  it's firefox04:46
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raylu...04:46
rayluok, you're not making sense anymore; who are you talking to and what are you talking about?04:46
Ahmuckwell, that and currently some of the "update" packages break the package manager04:47
rayluand what does building have to do with any of this?04:47
Ahmuckanyhow, i need to do some fixing, so i'll stop griping04:47
rayluwhat update packages? no package has ever broken my manager.04:47
Ahmuckcause i would get a lot less krap if i built it04:47
raylui've had connection problems while downloading, but that's the closest i've gotten - and apt resumed the download too04:47
Ahmuckor maybe that is urap04:47
rayluno, the packages are pre-built. downloading those is always less work04:47
fyrmedicI have a networking problem. I can connect to the internet but can't ssh to computers on my own network. Any ideas?04:47
AhmuckE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:48
AhmuckE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?04:48
Ahmuck!lock04:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:48
Ahmuck!aptitude04:48
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide04:48
Ahmuck!dpkg04:48
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.04:48
rayluAhmuck, _is_ another process using it?04:48
raylufyrmedic, how are you confirming that those computers have ssh running?04:48
Ahmuckraylu: i killed the process just now and am dpkg --configure -a04:49
Ahmuckfor example, why does firefox need docbook04:50
fyrmedicraylu: I have had no problem connecting to them in the past. I have 2 computers that I should be able to ssh into. I am trying to connect from a laptop that I can only log into via command.04:51
rayluAhmuck, it doesn't i don't see that in the dependencies04:51
raylufyrmedic, try sshing to themselves. then, check /etc/sshd_config to make sure that the sshd allows external connections04:52
maduserwhy would usamahashimi use kopete over Konversation?04:53
maduserusnless he does not have Konversation04:53
fyrmedicraylu: I can't even ping any of the computers on my network from the laptop. But I can ping outside url's and ssh.04:54
angel!er04:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about er - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:54
rayluit could be an issue with the laptops; they may be blocking connections via a firewall or similar04:54
madusercan you see thier ips?04:54
inaetywhenever i try to run "mysql -u root" it returns that i am denied as root and/or normal users04:55
geniirun mysql as user mysql04:55
angelinaety:try        mysql -p root04:56
inaetygenii: it gives me access denied04:56
inaetyangel: it asks me for a password, then denies me04:56
geniisu mysql -c mysql04:59
geniipassword mysql04:59
fyrmedicraylu: It appears that sshd is listening for outside connects. Any other ideas.05:00
geniimight need sudo su <etc as before>05:00
inaetygenii: it says -c is unknown05:00
inaetyoption05:01
inaetygenii, the sudo su worked05:02
vbgunzanyone know of a way to create a shortcut to a program that will launch the program along with all parameters and options **but** kill it first if in case it is already running?05:02
Dr_willisvbgunz,  may have to do a bit-o-shell-scripting for that.05:03
vbgunzI can do this with a script but prefer something else e.g., oneinstance program --options05:03
Dr_willisive never seen an oneinstance program :)05:04
Dr_williswould be handy however.. so someone proberly made such a thing05:04
geniiinaety: mysql cannot be run as any other user other than user named mysql05:04
vbgunzheh, yeah, I am convinced it probably exists a hundred times over, I just don't know of a single one :/05:04
Dr_willishttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/programming-9/creating-single-instance-linux-application-256693/05:04
Dr_willisis the first hit that looks good on that vbgunz  :) reading it now05:05
vbgunzsweet find05:05
* genii sips his beer05:05
inaetygenii, okay so how do i fix this "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)"05:05
geniiinaety: Don't login as root. login as user mysql. Default password is ALSO mysql05:06
Dr_willisvbgunz,  but its more of a 'how do i make a c program do this' Not a general for any program05:06
inaetygenii: so mysql -u mysql?05:06
vbgunzI cannot imagine it being too hard to do. create a simple python script to do it. just curious if it already exists. I like to reinvent squares :)05:07
geniiinaety: exactly, yes05:07
inaetygenii: "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mysql'@'localhost' (using password: NO)"05:08
geniiuse -p switch to make it password-prompt then put mysql ass password05:08
genii*ass05:08
* genii sips beer05:08
Dr_willisvbgunz,  aha.. google for 'bash single instance' rather then linux single instance. :) got a lot better hits05:08
Dr_willishttp://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/25207-single-instance.html05:08
geniiDr_willis: Nice find05:09
inaetygenii: mysql -p mysql?05:09
inaetythat asks me for a password05:09
inaetyso put mysql05:09
geniiyes05:09
inaetyand it denies me as my user (inaety@localhost)05:09
Dr_willisvbgunz,  also  http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/18137-run-processes-sequentially.html05:10
geniimysql -u mysql -p mysql05:10
Dr_willisvbgunz,  has a sample script that sort of does it with a lock file05:10
inaetygenii: "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mysql'@'localhost' (using password: YES)"05:10
geniialso sometimes need to use local ip 127.0.0.1 instead of "localhost"05:10
vbgunzvery cool am going to look them over. if I have some luck with them I will definitely thank you for your time :)05:11
Dr_willismy google-fu is strong..05:11
Dr_willisand  needed a break from playing  BioShock...05:11
Dr_willis the game was creeping me out...05:11
Dr_willis:P05:11
geniigoogle-fu05:11
* genii giggles05:12
geniieg: -h 127.0.0.105:14
inaetygenii: why does it say that is using a password now?05:14
ignoramusanyone ever have problems with gmail on05:14
Ahmuckhttp://www.pastebin.org/917905:14
ignoramusfirefox?05:14
geniiinaety: -p means use password05:15
Ahmuckraylu - requirements for firefox from aptitude - http://www.pastebin.org/917905:15
ignoramusI click on my mail, it tries to load, and then says there;s a script thats not responding...05:15
geniiinaety: perhaps try      mysql -u mysql -p -h 127.0.0.1 mysql05:16
rayluAhmuck, those may have been leftover from a previous install05:16
ignoramusmy mail never opens, but it reads as "read" after i click on it05:16
raylui have:05:16
Ahmuckna, those are for a new install for firefox05:16
Ahmuckbrand new system05:16
raylufontconfig, psmisc, debianutils (>= 1.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.13.2), libc6 (>= 2.6-1), libcairo2 (>= 1.4.0),05:16
raylu         libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.5), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.2.1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.14.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>=05:16
raylu         2.12.0), libhunspell-1.1-0 (>= 1.1.5-1), libjpeg62, libnspr4-0d (>= 1.8.0.10), libnss3-0d (>= 1.8.0.10), libpango1.0-005:16
raylu         (>= 1.18.2), libstdc++6 (>= 4.2.1), libx11-6, libxcomposite1 (>= 1:0.3-1), libxcursor1 (> 1.1.2), libxdamage1 (>=05:16
raylu         1:1.1), libxext6, libxfixes3 (>= 1:4.0.1), libxft2 (> 2.1.1), libxi6, libxinerama1, libxrandr2 (>= 2:1.2.0),05:16
Ahmucksomething is like, really broke there if i need docbook for firefox05:16
raylu         libxrender1, libxt6, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-1)05:16
rayluoops =\05:17
genii!paste | raylu05:17
uboturaylu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:17
rayluyeah, i pasted it into a pastebin and didn't copy the url05:17
inaetygenii: same error...05:19
geniiinaety: Bah. I apologise but am unable to assist further at this time05:19
* genii goes off in search of more beer05:20
geniiman mysqladmin may be a bit enlightening05:20
inaetygenii: mesqladmin??05:23
inaetymy*05:23
geniiyes05:23
geniiyou caqn change passwordss there, add databases, etc etc05:23
geniitypos. Bleh05:24
maduseris there spell check in Konversation?05:24
geniinot that I'm aware of05:25
maduserlike some kind of command05:26
Ahmuckfound the problem.  aptitude installs firefox/ubifox ... which is an intergration with apt, and requires synaptic which requires docbook, i suspect05:26
Ahmuckhowever if you aptitude remove firefox, it does not remove synaptic ... which might be a blessing for ubuntu users but is screwed up for kubuntu users, as kubuntu users already has a nice adept to work with05:27
maduser!synaptic05:27
Ahmuckubuntu needs to seperate firefox from ubifox and let those peeps that want ubifox install ubifox05:27
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto05:27
Ahmuckall this intergration bothers me05:28
Ahmuckall i want is an os, and a desktop, i'll pick and choose my apps.  i understand the whole koffice, kgroupware thingy, afterall it is kde05:28
maduserwhat does the k stand for or is it just the K desktop enviroment?05:30
Ahmuckearly on kde used to name all thier apps Ksomeapp for the big K05:30
Ahmuckthe K stands for KDE05:30
LazyStudentah yes, recursive acronyms... sometimes they're funny, but I wish I knew why it was K in the first place05:30
Ahmuckah, yes ... good question, wonder if it is on kde's homepage05:30
sdlvx_theys hould make a buntu which is just a super basic version of linux with access to the ubuntu repos05:30
sdlvx_that would be elite05:31
LazyStudentthat would be Debian ;)05:31
Ahmuckwell, they do sorta.  it's called ubuntu server05:31
LazyStudent(kidding)05:31
Ahmuckthen you can install kde on top of it or the kubuntu desktop05:31
AhmuckLazyStudent: actually you are quite right05:31
sdlvx_i had one and I installed KDE, GNOME, and XFCE05:31
madusercould it mean kernal desktop enviroment?05:31
LazyStudentI doubt it05:31
sdlvx_i did not know this about ubuntu server, I will have to look at it osmetime05:31
sdlvx_i think it actually means Kool05:31
LazyStudentoh god05:32
LazyStudentthat's bad05:32
maduserthe kernal is what kde is built on05:32
LazyStudentthey have to cross that out of history05:32
LazyStudent"Kool Desktop Environment" sucks05:32
Ahmuckhttp://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-faq&m=99670886427221&w=205:32
maduserkiller desktop enviroment?05:32
sdlvx_http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/KDE05:33
LazyStudentthe release cycle is a bit hectic for me -- everytime I burn a CD, it seems that I barely have a chance to use it before there's a new version05:33
LazyStudenthaven't quite yet got it installed on this laptop and it's annoying me05:33
maduser18 months05:33
LazyStudentI think I've settled on Kubuntu05:33
LazyStudentdunno why they like GNOME better; it's okay but I prefer K as my desktop05:33
maduseri don't think the kool one is raefering to linux05:33
Ahmuckhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE05:34
sdlvx_http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1823/170/1600/kde-note.png05:34
LazyStudentso05:35
LazyStudentthis is a 7.04 CD I'm running05:35
AhmuckHis initial Usenet post spurred a lot of interest, and the KDE project was born.[1] The name KDE was intended as a word play on the existing Common Desktop Environment, available for Unix systems. CDE was an X11-based user environment jointly developed by HP, IBM, and Sun, through the X/Open Company, with an interface and productivity tools based on the Motif graphical widget toolkit05:35
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LazyStudentis it worth just downloading the 7.10 ISO and installing that from scratch?05:35
sdlvx_i did the upgrade05:35
LazyStudentah yes, I remember reading about CDE05:35
sdlvx_and it blew up and I had to do fix it with dpkg05:35
Ahmuckheh, sometimes i think that 7.04 was a step forward and 7.10 was a step back05:36
* genii apt-get installs cde05:36
LazyStudentlol I've read cautions about upgrading05:36
sdlvx_when I first upgraded I was pretty upset05:36
LazyStudentwhat's wrong with Gutsy?05:36
sdlvx_it uninstalled a lot of stuff I installed on my own05:36
maduserkomonon desktop enviroment?05:36
LazyStudentyou're kidding? A version of Linux that decides what programs to remove for you? Argh05:36
LazyStudentpackage managers are good but this is would worries me05:36
LazyStudentwhat*05:36
sdlvx_aptitude went nuts =/05:37
maduserits like windows upgrade05:37
sdlvx_lol05:37
LazyStudentI'm already annoyed with the seemingly often number of crashes05:37
sdlvx_it worked and I didn't have to reinstall the OS05:37
LazyStudentfor Adept/Apt05:37
LazyStudentlocked database05:37
sdlvx_but it was not as easy as I would like05:37
sdlvx_adept seems to like to crash my whole X05:37
sdlvx_right when it's installing packages05:37
LazyStudentlol05:37
fscodelarohi everyone, i have a quick question, i just did a fresh install of kubuntu gutsy and after installing some gtk applications i kind of lost the qt look of gnome... e.g. kontact looks as if i installed it in gnome, it doesnt have the great kde look... anyone knows about this? i dont know what exact library caused this because i installed many things today05:38
sdlvx_it's probably my fault for running the ATI 7.11 driver and compiz fusion from GIT05:38
LazyStudentyeah, I've been noticing a lot of random stalling with Ubuntu... which is a shame really05:38
LazyStudentI'm trying to give Linux a chance05:38
* genii is reminded of the song "Give Peace a Chance"05:38
madusernever heard it05:39
sdlvx_before I started loading up GIT programs I never really had many problems05:39
sdlvx_wasn't that john lennon?05:39
LazyStudentugh, yeah, I need the ATI Radeon drivers for this old 2004 laptop, and the nVidia Geforce 4 ones for my desktop -- if I'm even gonna get around to installing it on that one... I kept trying to, but it freezes half-way. I think I need to do something about the desktop CPU overheating.05:39
LazyStudentlol05:39
sdlvx_is it overclocked or something?05:40
LazyStudentah yes, "Imagine no possessions... [I'm rich!]@05:40
sdlvx_you should take the fan off the heatsink, I bet it's clogged05:40
* maduser wonders how mankind will destroy themeselves05:40
LazyStudent(argh keep forgetting to set it to UK keyboard)05:40
LazyStudentI keep trying to clean it05:40
LazyStudentalready replaced the grease once05:40
sdlvx_i took it off and washed it05:41
LazyStudentprobably need to do that again05:41
sdlvx_lol05:41
maduseri have to repalce my entire keyboard05:41
maduserfor a labtop05:41
sdlvx_i just bought a zalman 9500 and now I don't have to worry about it anymore05:41
LazyStudentZalman?05:41
sdlvx_it's an aftermarket cooler05:41
sdlvx_I'm an avid overclocker05:41
LazyStudentah yes05:41
LazyStudentI'm not lol05:41
Ahmuckmaduser: with GMO food and bioweapons05:41
maduserovercloking on linux?05:41
LazyStudentwouldn't want to fry this old laptop beast, anyway05:41
sdlvx_I have an opteron 165 OCed to 2.91Ghz05:41
* genii cracks another bottle of beer05:41
mzanfardinolooking for suggestions for where I can get additional fonts.05:41
sdlvx_best 100 dollars I spent in my life05:41
geniiopteron are nice05:42
Ahmuckmaduser: well, that and trying to mess with the atmosphere05:42
LazyStudentwhat do you mean, overclocking on Linux? There are SOME games, lol05:42
LazyStudentactually I've been meaning to look at some FOSS games05:42
Ahmuckmzanfardino: like ms fonts?05:42
* maduser Ahmuck the crab people05:42
geniimy one work box has dual opteron 165 in fact05:42
LazyStudentwho can recommend a good FOSS game?05:42
LazyStudentlemme guess, something based on Quake or UT engines?05:43
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LazyStudentthere must be more 3D engines than that05:43
mzanfardinoAhmuck: not specifically, just more than what comes as default with Kubuntu.  I'm checking apt-cache search xfonts- and see 112 fonts to select from, but many are simply foreign language fonts.05:43
Ahmucktry kubuntu-restricted-extras05:43
Ahmuckdownloads a lot of ms fonts05:43
sdlvx_tremulous is good05:43
LazyStudentthink I've heard of that05:43
sdlvx_it's an FPS05:43
sdlvx_I play it every now and then05:44
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Ahmuckmzanfardino: you can use ttf fonts as well if you search google05:44
LazyStudentin the freedomware games fest05:44
LazyStudentany non-FPS games?05:44
maduserwhy does times new roman cost money?05:45
sdlvx_there's a lot of nice non-hardcore games05:45
sdlvx_WINE + STEAM05:45
sdlvx_maybe?05:45
LazyStudentlol, because fonts are protected by IP stuff05:45
LazyStudentyou can get free fonts, and lots of them05:45
LazyStudentbut apparently they're "not quite so good"05:45
LazyStudentpah05:45
LazyStudentI'd just use the Windows ones05:46
LazyStudentnever tried though05:46
LazyStudentthis default font set doesn't seem too bad05:46
LazyStudentstill on the LiveCD05:46
LazyStudentI watched an entire programme about bloody Helvetica the other day.05:46
mzanfardinoAhmuck: I already have the extra's installed.  There are also quite a few ttf fonts available from apt-get, but again the bulk of which appear to be specific to individual languages05:46
LazyStudentseriously, an hour about a single font05:47
mzanfardinoAhmuck: I guess I will search google next.05:47
LazyStudentguess what channel it was one? Yup, BBC4 in the UK. I'm happy to pay my annual licence fee for the BBC to devote entire programmes to fonts. Pah. Not really.05:47
mzanfardinoLazyStudent: yes, I have heard about the IP issues with fonts... I guess I was hoping there were more FOSS fonts out there.05:48
LazyStudentthere's got to be05:48
LazyStudentsurely?05:48
mzanfardinoLazyStudent: I'm sure there are... and don't call me shirley05:48
mzanfardino:)05:48
LazyStudentlol05:48
sdlvx_there are sites with a good number of free fonts05:48
ardchoillelol05:48
sdlvx_i remember because I wanted the death note font05:49
sdlvx_when the L comes on the screen05:49
sdlvx_and I looked forever for it05:49
sdlvx_and everyone wanted me to buy it05:49
sdlvx_and I found a website that had it for free, but it wasn't a warez site or anything05:49
mzanfardinosdlvx_: you happen to recall the site?05:49
sdlvx_I don't remember what it was though05:49
sdlvx_I can look again05:49
LazyStudentcan anyone advise me about what best to do with my NTFS partition? I've been reading that ntfs-3g is pretty good, but is it still worth setting aside a small shared FAT32 part?05:49
sdlvx_I have a 400GB external drive formatted as NTFS and I always use NTFS-3g and I haven't had any problems05:50
LazyStudentI think that idea sounds a bit ugly05:50
LazyStudentthe FAT one05:50
LazyStudentah, good05:50
LazyStudentI might just do that05:50
LazyStudentno Windows crap?05:50
sdlvx_I had this drive before I got started on linux05:50
sdlvx_I use XP on my desktop because it's my gaming machine05:51
ardchoilleLazyStudent: There are some of us who have never used NTFS. I threw Windows away back in 2001 when I discovered Linux, and I haven't used Windows since.05:51
LazyStudentis it still best to install Windows first these days, anyway? How it "likes to be first" and all that?05:51
LazyStudentlol, I would love to do the same Ardchoille05:51
LazyStudentbut I'll probably still require "a bit of Windows" for some time05:52
ardchoilleLazyStudent: You can install Windows first, but if you install Linux first, you'll just have to re-do your grub boot loder05:52
LazyStudentwould rather not mess around with GRUB just yet, it's a bit messy for me05:52
ardchoille!grub05:52
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:52
ardchoilleok05:52
LazyStudentbtw how can you make GRUB look better, like the PNG background or whatever it is in OpenSuSE?05:52
LazyStudentI hate the plain text05:52
LazyStudenton a modern computer05:52
Evil_`I <3 apt-get makes things so much easier lol05:53
LazyStudentyeah I like packmans05:53
LazyStudent(I mean package managers not Packman itself)05:53
LazyStudentI'm surprised Ubuntu doesn't "prettify" GRUB by default05:54
LazyStudentlike it's splash screens05:54
LazyStudentits*05:54
ardchoilleWell, you don't really need to reboot Linux unless you're messing with kernels.. some folks I know haven't rebooted in a year.. so they don't care about the grub screen.05:54
LazyStudentI know, I know05:54
ere4sithere is a howto in the forums for adding a pic to the grub screen05:55
LazyStudentbut, having said that I am experiencing a lot of serious crashes... Maybe with my next proper installation that won't happen as much05:55
LazyStudentI couldn't even get to the console a couple of times05:55
LazyStudentI wasn't even doing anything intensive05:56
LazyStudentI'm thinking it's a driver issue05:56
sdlvx_maduser I am not registered yet05:56
sdlvx_http://www.fontstock.net/05:56
sdlvx_that is the site05:56
Evil_`apt-get is so awesome, It downloaded the jdk, installed it, and set the environmental variables lol05:56
sdlvx_it has old english text05:56
LazyStudentdo you still need to install ATI/nVidia drivers yourself, with Edgy and Gutsy?05:56
sdlvx_Lazy I would SUggest installing ATI drivers yourself05:57
LazyStudentso they've finally included the GPL'd Java stuff?05:57
LazyStudentthat's good05:57
sdlvx_the new version supports AIGLX albeit not the greatest05:57
LazyStudentstupid Sun for waiting so long05:57
LazyStudentI'm hoping that Beryl will work with a 64MB Radeon Mobility 7000 laptop card05:58
LazyStudentI've heard good stories about it05:58
LazyStudentor is it just Compiz now? I can't remember05:59
sdlvx_http://www.fontstock.net/10105/Old-English.html05:59
LazyStudentread about them merging05:59
sdlvx_it is now compiz fusion05:59
sdlvx_they merged05:59
LazyStudentright05:59
sdlvx_where did maduser go?05:59
LazyStudentto the abyss05:59
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LazyStudentI'm learning Java but I don't like it much06:00
LazyStudentI still think it has its slowness to shake off06:00
sdlvxI agree06:00
sdlvxI am not a fan of java06:00
LazyStudentand besides, when you can make C as "portable" as with GTK and Qt, for example, why bother with a VM?06:00
Evil_`Ya, I dunno why I started with Java lol, but it was my first language06:01
LazyStudentI just dislike the LongMethodNameSyntax and the InstanceName06:01
Evil_`longMethodNameSyntax* <306:01
Evil_`unless you mean C06:01
Evil_`then it may be capitalized /shrug06:02
LazyStudentInstanceName ObjectName = new ObjectName(); thing06:02
Evil_`ya06:02
Evil_`One thing I like about C++ is operator overloading lol06:02
LazyStudentmuch prefer JavaScript lol06:02
LazyStudentah, C++06:02
LazyStudentthe print << "Hello"06:02
LazyStudentthat confuses me06:02
Evil_`ehhh06:03
LazyStudentwhy do you have to use << just to send a string to a function?06:03
LazyStudentI miss brackets06:03
LazyStudentI mean ()06:03
biovoreits a stream..06:03
biovoreprintf("Hello");06:03
LazyStudentcan't be bothered to type "parentheses"06:03
biovorenot stream06:03
LazyStudentI see06:03
Evil_`cout << "Hello" << endl;06:03
biovoreC/C++06:03
LazyStudenthaven't learnt much C/C++ yet06:03
LazyStudentlol06:03
LazyStudentgotcha06:03
Evil_`Ya, I haven't really learned much06:03
biovorecout is a iostream class..  << is overloaded for a stream operator in that class06:03
LazyStudentwhy << and not >> then?06:04
LazyStudentis it a bitwise shift?06:04
Evil_`I don't see anything fun to do with C/++ on linux, on windows I always played around with game hacking :P06:04
biovore<< output >> input06:04
biovorethe << and >> only matter with iostream class members..06:04
biovorecout is a class06:04
LazyStudentok06:04
biovorewell a member function06:04
LazyStudentthe difference?06:04
biovorethe << and >> are overloaded for that class06:04
Evil_`ya, it still has ()06:05
LazyStudentI'm still trying to figure out what classes are. But I think the Java tutorial helped somewhat. Now I just have to learn what they mean in C++06:05
biovorethat too.. I don't remember what the function is for that..06:05
Evil_`Classes are objects06:05
Evil_`C doesn't have classes06:06
LazyStudentwhy couldn't they just use "object.method" btw? object::method annoyes me a little -- or is it object->method?06:06
shindahey was wondering anyone here on gutsy using kopete?06:06
Evil_`it has .06:06
LazyStudentah06:06
biovore:: <-- name space06:06
Evil_`:: is for static functions, I believe06:06
Evil_`and namespaces06:06
biovore. <-- direct access06:06
LazyStudentright06:06
biovore->  <-- inidrect access06:06
Evil_`I <3 ->06:06
Evil_`so awesome looking lol06:06
LazyStudentso there's a separation in C++, where there isn't in Java?06:06
biovore-> is for pointers06:06
Evil_`ya06:06
Evil_`dereferencing(sp?)06:06
LazyStudentwhy?06:06
Evil_`well06:07
Evil_`ya06:07
Evil_`like06:07
Evil_`Instance* i = new Instance();06:07
Evil_`i->sayHi();06:07
Evil_`I think06:07
LazyStudentpointer* syntax, got it06:07
stdin##c < for C support  ##c++ for C++ support06:08
LazyStudentlol that's okay06:08
LazyStudentI won't ramble about C anymore06:08
shindawas wondering if anyone else had problems with kopete when chatting with msn clients and space characters not appearing06:08
maduserC is outdated and soon C++ will be to06:09
madusernew version comming out soon06:09
LazyStudenteven C++?06:09
biovoreyeah.. digital mars.. D06:09
LazyStudentthe kernel developers don't think C is outdated06:09
biovorewell C is good for quick and small..06:09
biovorecan't beat it still..06:09
LazyStudentyup06:09
maduseryeah06:09
LazyStudentbut most things on top of the kernel is C++, Java, Python, Qt/GTK... etc06:10
shindahahaha am I hearing you guys right? C and c++ are out dated06:10
LazyStudent(mixed things there)06:10
shindaQt is a c++ library06:10
LazyStudentI know06:10
LazyStudentjust filling out06:10
madusernew version C++0x06:10
stdin"<stdin> ##c < for C support  ##c++ for C++ support"  you did see that, right?06:10
LazyStudentyou're kidding?06:10
shindaGTK also libaries, pyhton and java well those are understandable06:11
maduserout before 201006:11
LazyStudentwhat kinda name is that? C++ [HexValue]?06:11
LazyStudent(or would that be octal?)06:11
maduser++ stands for an incramnt above C06:11
LazyStudentI know what ++ means06:11
stdinLazyStudent, maduser: take it to another channel, this is Kubuntu support06:11
LazyStudentbut C++0x looks silly06:11
Evil_`lmao @ C += 2, that would be hillarious, last thing I say about it <3 lol06:12
LazyStudentsorry06:12
LazyStudentstdin06:12
maduserlets take this to offtopic06:13
LazyStudentnah06:13
Evil_`I WILL06:13
LazyStudentdried it up now06:13
LazyStudentlol06:13
LazyStudentI "lol" too much06:13
Evil_`everyone does06:13
ardchoillelol06:13
LazyStudentso how's Debian these days? Is it as "polished", or still not for the average desktop? I can see why Ubuntu picked up the baton06:14
maduserwhat does that stand for lots of laughs?06:14
ardchoillemaduser: Yes06:14
LazyStudent"lonely obsessive laughing"06:14
stdinhmm, still off topic06:15
maduserha06:15
mzanfardinowhat about ttf-xfree86 fonts?  since we are using X and not xfree86, I correct in assuming that installing these packages won't add any usable fonts?06:15
LazyStudentdon't kick us please06:15
stdinthen stay on topic :)06:15
LazyStudenthah, I best go then06:15
maduserbut no ones asking questions06:15
LazyStudentalthough, I have one "RTFM" question06:15
maduserok06:15
* mzanfardino asking question06:16
LazyStudentI was a bit surprised when, after my USB 54g adapter worked perfectly first time in Kubuntu (better than Windows XP, which wouldn't even let me install the drivers from the bloody disc because it's being strange lately)06:16
LazyStudentwell, my old PCMCIA 11b card wasn't detected at all06:17
LazyStudentwonder if my new 56g one will be06:17
LazyStudentbloody AddonTech06:17
LazyStudentgot it 'cos it was only #14 at Maplins (argh dunno where the GBP symbol has gone, cbb to change kb settings)06:18
LazyStudenthmph06:18
LazyStudentlooks like I have to actually have to install something for this one too06:18
LazyStudent:(06:18
ardchoille!enter | LazyStudent06:18
ubotuLazyStudent: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!06:18
LazyStudenthopefully it'll work right?06:18
Evil_`Does everyone have access to ubotu?06:19
LazyStudentI was trying to avoid it Ard, but my thought pattern was broken06:19
LazyStudentit's not really that busy in here06:19
ere4si!ping06:19
ubotupong06:19
stdinEvil_`: everyone can access the factoids and everyone can submit factoids, only editors can add them tho06:20
Evil_`Ah, ok, thanks :)06:20
LazyStudenthas anyone in here also bought a cheap Addon-Tech PCMCIA Wireless G card?06:20
angel!ping06:20
ubotupong06:20
LazyStudentI don't wanna have to go with ndiswrapper06:21
maduser!pong06:21
ubotupong is an old atari game. It's fun!06:21
stdin!botabuse06:21
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.06:21
LazyStudentI was hoping that it would be as easy as the USB wifi was06:21
LazyStudentanyone?06:22
maduserhmmm06:22
LazyStudentit seems that PC cards aren't autodetected like USB06:23
maduserndiswrapper may be your only choice for good wifi06:23
LazyStudentlol06:23
LazyStudentI might just use the USB stick in that case, and take the card back06:24
LazyStudentthen again I can't do that either, because the downstairs computer needs it06:24
LazyStudentgot a spare Netgear USB one but it's broken, unresponsive06:24
madusersell it on ebay:)06:24
ardchoille!ot06:25
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:25
LazyStudentI was amazed when it picked up the USB wifi adapter06:25
LazyStudentand worked with WPA2 straightaway06:25
LazyStudenthad to install an upgrade on a few people's WinXP laptops, just to deal with WPA206:25
maduserah06:25
LazyStudentnah I have a 14 day return period06:25
LazyStudenthalf-way through that06:25
maduserget it back soon06:26
LazyStudentyup06:26
LazyStudentif Maplin will take it, which they should do06:26
LazyStudentread the small print06:26
LazyStudentdoesn't exclude wireless network stuff06:26
maduserfine print g2 read it06:26
LazyStudentonly "disco equipment and software"06:26
LazyStudentetc06:26
LazyStudentmade me laugh06:26
maduserdisco eqipment06:26
maduserdisco is dead06:26
LazyStudentthere must be a few people going to Maplins just to buy lights and things06:27
LazyStudentfor a weekend06:27
LazyStudentthen returning them after a gig06:27
maduserold people06:27
ardchoillePlease take the off-topic chatter to another channel.06:27
LazyStudentI am sorry06:27
LazyStudentyet again06:27
angellazyStuden06:27
LazyStudentanyway06:27
LazyStudentI shall look online for Linux drivers06:27
LazyStudentand leave you in peace06:27
maduserlets go to offtopic06:27
angellazyStudent Ya callateeeeeeee06:27
LazyStudentsounds like a chatup line maduser :P06:28
LazyStudentI can't talk back to you maduser, I'm unregistered and it's blocking me06:28
Trekgreetings06:28
maduserregister06:28
LazyStudentnot yet06:28
LazyStudentbye for now06:28
LazyStudent6:29am in the UK, might go to bed...06:29
maduser see ya06:29
ardchoilleLazyStudent , maduser You two could always join #maduser  or #LazyStudent06:29
maduser1:28 here06:29
LazyStudentI thought of that06:29
Evil_`How do you install a .rpm file?06:29
LazyStudentbye quiet chan06:29
stdin!rpm | Evil_`06:29
ubotuEvil_`: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)06:29
ardchoilleEvil_`: You don't06:29
Evil_`I see06:30
ardchoilleEvil_`: Look for a .deb package that was made for Ubuntu06:30
LazyStudentI was gonna suggest Alien -- just how "dangerous" is it?06:30
ardchoilledangerous enough that we shouldn't use it06:30
Evil_`when I tried to apt-get alien, it said to put in the Kubuntu disc, will the livecd suffice?06:30
LazyStudent(never used it)06:30
LazyStudentyou need to update your sources06:31
ardchoilleEvil_`: You realise using alien is dangerous, right?06:31
stdinEvil_`: should, you could also just remove the cd line from your sources with adept06:31
Evil_`ah06:31
Evil_`What makes it dangerous?06:31
Trekis there a way to download a package on a another computer not running linux06:31
LazyStudentwell, I presume you could just download the .deb file on whatever computer you wanted06:31
LazyStudentI think you mean cross-platform package managers though?06:32
LazyStudentJava ones for instance? Or Gtk/Qt ones?06:32
LazyStudentanyone?06:32
ardchoilleTrek: You could do that provided you grab the deps too06:32
stdin"apt-get --print-uris install <package>" will print all the package you need to download06:33
ere4sifinding the dependencies will be hard06:33
LazyStudentbut they won't work on Windows or whatever anyway, unless they're compiled for Cygwin or whatever06:33
TrekI trying to get kubuntu-desktop package, but my ubuntu box doesn't have a internet connection, it doesn't even have a modem06:33
LazyStudentah06:33
ardchoilleere4si: apt-cache show package  will show you the deps06:33
ere4sithere you go then :)06:34
stdinardchoille: but not the dependencies of the dependencies06:34
ardchoillestdin: Very good point06:34
LazyStudentso you just download everything separately, and then move it onto the target PC?06:34
ardchoilleTrek: And that meta package will have a ton of deps06:34
stdin"apt-get --print-uris install <package>" will06:34
LazyStudentdouble dependencies now??06:34
ardchoilleLazyStudent: Each dep can have deps of its own, and each of those deps too, and so on06:35
LazyStudentthought so06:35
LazyStudentI'm grateful for package managers and the huge repos06:35
LazyStudentotherwise it'll be too much to handle06:35
LazyStudentit'd*06:35
stdinlike RPM based distros :p06:35
LazyStudentheh, read about "RPM Hell" to06:35
LazyStudenttoo*06:36
LazyStudentgotta be better than DLL hell though?06:36
LazyStudentor is it worse...?06:36
Treksounds like it would be easier to convince my dad to finally get broadband06:36
stdinwell, if you have a dll you know it's made for windows, you don't know what specific distro an rpm was made for06:36
ardchoilleTrek: Indeed06:37
LazyStudenthow would you upload the files to the PC anyway?06:37
stdincd/dvd/usb06:37
ardchoilleTrek: Or transport the box to an internet connection, do what you need, then take it back home06:37
LazyStudenton a USB flash drive or external HDD?06:37
LazyStudentthought so06:37
LazyStudentno I mean, if the box has Ethernet06:37
LazyStudentcould network them06:37
stdinI'd assume if they had another PC with internet they'd just get a router...06:38
LazyStudentbut if it doesn't have a modem it probably won't have ethernet right?06:38
Trekcan you download paackages and save them to a USB Drive, maybe I can use a liveCD and do it that way06:38
ubuntu__I have a question about Kubuntu 7.1006:38
LazyStudentmm, I like routers... Might get rid of OpenWRT on my Linksys though, unexplained signal loss.06:39
twylighta channels importance is based on the number of members, the activity, number of IRCops and most importantly, can be determined my the number of http links in the topic06:39
ubuntu__I install it and when I try to install programs or do updates I get a commit error/break packages.06:39
ubuntu__How do I fix that?06:39
ere4siTrek: you can get a network card for $20...06:39
=== ubuntu__ is now known as Banister
=== Banister is now known as BanisterKelly
LazyStudentyeah, or a USB to Ethernet converter06:40
Trekthe box has a NIC06:40
LazyStudentthat's good06:40
LazyStudentjust connect it then06:40
Trekit's just a pain to transport the box06:40
LazyStudentif both comps have them06:40
BanisterKellyAlso when I did updates it said there was a version update nd I installed from a 7.10 CD.06:40
LazyStudentah, how far away are they?06:40
BanisterKellyCan anyone help, please?06:40
TrekI only have dial-up internet06:41
LazyStudentmight take a while to download it even if it was connected to the modem06:41
Trekhow large is the kubuntu-desktop package06:42
stdinTrek: big06:42
angeltrek: 400 mb +-06:42
Trekcarp06:42
ardchoilleTrek: Open a terminal and type this: apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop06:42
Treki mean crap06:42
twylightparc06:42
ardchoilleTrek: Look at the "Depends"06:42
LazyStudentlol06:43
twylight2'99 a pack06:43
LazyStudentAdept says that kubuntu-desktop is 44K installed06:43
stdina lot of those are in ubuntu-desktop too, it's the dependencies of those dependencies and their dependencies06:43
twylightthey're really cheap now06:43
LazyStudentmustn't be counting deps then...06:43
twylighttoo many incontinents06:43
BanisterKellyWhat is meant about breaking packages?06:43
Evil_`Anyone know why when I start my computer, it says it can't allocate memory in resourse 7 then about 3 minutes later, kubuntu will start up?06:43
stdinEvil_`: because you have a non-standard proprietary BIOS06:44
ardchoilleLazyStudent: kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package, it itself is empty, but it pulls in everything for a kde environment06:44
LazyStudentbye06:44
LazyStudentI gathered that, thanks Ard06:44
Evil_`stdin, what do you mean by that?06:44
BanisterKellyDid I ask a bad question?06:44
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: No06:44
BanisterKellyWhy is no one answering?06:45
ere4si!patince06:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about patince - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:45
BanisterKellyI shall sit back and wait.06:45
BanisterKellyMy apology.06:45
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Noteveryone who is looking at their irc client right now knows every answer06:45
Evil_`Patience is a virtue.06:45
stdinEvil_`: it means that the BIOS (the bit of software that tells the OS about the hardware you have) does not use the standard way. so the kernel has to guess a bit06:46
BanisterKellyPatience is needed for computers and new OS'06:46
twylight<3 dmdfkz06:46
Evil_`Well, right now I have it to load the Disk drive first (because of the livecd) could that affect it at all?06:46
stdinEvil_`: it's not a huge problem, if it continues to boot then the kernel worked it out and doesn't care06:46
Evil_`k, I just find it abit annoying waiting 5 minutes lol06:46
Evil_`Solution: run computer 24/706:47
stdinit's down to the maker of the BIOS not to be evil :p06:47
Treklivecd take a while to load, depending on the CD/DVD Drive06:47
BanisterKellyI had an old PC running 2 weeks in 98SE without a reboot/shutdown.06:47
Evil_`Trek, this is the OS itself, not the livecd06:47
stdin*cough* 06:47:46 up 29 days,  6:22,  3 users,  load average: 2.95, 2.62, 2.0806:47
Evil_`I actually didn't think it installed correctly, I've reinstalled Kubuntu about 4 times because I thought it did it wrong....but now I know it just takes a while06:48
ardchoillestdin: :)06:48
TrekWIN98... 2 weeks! Why? did you want to see if the computer would commit suicide06:48
BanisterKellylol06:48
Evil_`LOL06:48
BanisterKellyNo, actually I kept forgetting it was on.   lol  Used primarily for networking and sharing.06:49
Evil_`1 really wicked awesome thing about conversation is doing [[ word]] without spaces06:51
BanisterKellyWHen installing, how big should the swap file be?06:51
BanisterKellyswap partition06:52
rayluBanisterKelly, how much ram do you have?06:52
BanisterKelly384MB 1Ghz CPU06:52
rayluer...06:52
stdinBanisterKelly: and is it a laptop that you want to be able to hibernate with?06:52
BanisterKellyNo, old Dell PC06:52
BanisterKellyDesktop pc06:52
raylusince when do laptops come with 384?06:53
BanisterKellyI won't mention my old Dell with 32MB, or is it 64?  lol06:53
stdinI usually recommend 1GB, just in case you want to make a DVD or do some graphics processing06:53
raylui had a 64mb desktop :D06:53
BanisterKellyNah, I don't do those stuff.06:53
Trek1GB for swap, or just RAM06:53
stdinBanisterKelly: 512 should do then06:53
rayluhow big is the harddrive?06:54
BanisterKellyI have an HP here I fool with that is max memory of 64MB.  lol06:54
twylightlol06:54
BanisterKellyI have 2 hard drives on here at 20GB each.06:54
BanisterKellyAlso a DVD burner06:55
Trekwhen i set up ubuntu, I put 10GB for root, 15GB for home, 5GB swap.... was this a bad move06:56
Trek????06:56
rayluo.0, that's a pretty big swap06:57
stdin5GB swap? I doubt you need that06:57
raylubut otherwise, sounds reasonable. though, if you have only 30gb total, you probably would have been better off combining your root and home06:57
ere4sishould still work - most of the swap won't be used but06:57
stdinunless you have 16KB ram06:57
Treki wasn't sure how linux handled virual memory06:57
stdinbetter than windows06:57
rayluregardless, it uses approximately the same amount as windows. it doesn't need an extra 5 GB06:58
TrekI had a 1GB RAM06:58
BanisterKellyI install all one drive as / and the second drive as extra space and a swap partition.06:58
rayluis there a way to get konversation to load scripts or must I restart everytime?06:58
rayluthe scripts are in ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/scripts06:59
stdinit looks for scripts when you put in a command06:59
BanisterKellyShould I check back later and re-ask my question?06:59
rayluit doesn't :P06:59
stdin/exec scriptname06:59
stdinif you havent set an alias06:59
Trekso i know for next time, what's a good formula for estimating the size of the swap partition07:00
raylui haven't, and that doens't work07:00
BanisterKellyGood question Trek07:00
stdinTrek: about 1.5 - 2x RAM generally, tho the more ram the less swap you need07:00
rayluo.007:00
raylunevermind07:00
Trekthank you07:00
rayluso, what's wrong with this line?07:01
rayludcop $PORT Konversation say $SERVER "ChanServ" "$1 $TARGET $2+"07:01
rayluassuming i've already shifted thrice?07:01
stdinso, if you have 4GB ram, you don't need 6-8GB swap :p07:01
Trekif you have that much RAM, why would you need a swap07:02
stdinraylu: 1 $PORT  is "konversation" so you don't need another "Konversation" after07:02
BanisterKellyWould you recomend or not recomend running Kubuntu on a 550Mhz PC with 384MB memory?07:02
raylubut that was straight out of the help07:02
stdinTrek: sometimes it gives you a few extra seconds to stop an out of control process that's eating ram07:02
Trekoic07:03
Rukushi07:04
BanisterKellyHowdy07:04
Rukuswhy would glxgears run REAL slow until i start compiz? then it runs fast07:05
raylukubuntu can run on that, sure07:05
stdinraylu: "dcop $PORT default say $SERVER $TARGET $whatever $else $is $passed ", #konversation for help07:05
rayluRukus, you mean..why does it slow down as you start compiz?07:05
Rukusno07:05
rayluah, that looks like it'll work, stdin; I think the kde help for konv needs an update07:05
Rukusi get 150 frames/sec. then i start compiz --replace and it shoots up to 2000frames/sec07:06
Rukuswhy so kooky07:06
ere4si2000 fps?07:06
Rukusya07:07
rayluwhat is the variable for "every argument after 2"? i thought it was $2+?07:07
ere4sithat's gotta be a record...07:07
rayluor a bug :P07:07
Rukus9727 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1938.062 FPS07:07
Rukus10920 frames in 5.1 seconds = 2148.201 FPS07:07
BanisterKellyI remember reading about the 3D cube effect in LInux.  Is that still around, or faded?07:07
raylu!compiz | BanisterKelly07:07
ubotuBanisterKelly: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion07:08
Rukusit even appears to run faster07:08
BanisterKellyThank you.07:08
rayluthe wall is better than the cube</fact></opinion>07:08
BanisterKellyI didn't know what it was, just knew of it from reading up on Linux.07:08
ere4sithe wall?07:09
BanisterKellyPink Floyd?  lol07:09
rayluyes. instead of the Desktop Cube, i use the Desktop Wall07:10
raylu:D07:10
BanisterKellyNever heard of it.07:11
rayluit's one of the plugins to compiz fusion; i disabled the cube and enabled the wall07:11
twylightscreenshots plz07:12
stdin> -offtopic07:12
rayluhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eaI9YcxD9s <1607:13
twylightJUST AS he said offtopic07:13
stdinpost links like that in -offtopic, not in the main channel, thanks07:13
rayluT.T sorry07:14
BanisterKellyI am off to do some reading.  Be back later to ask questions.07:16
Linux_Galoreheres a question, how come all the nice little kde image resize apps like SIR or Kim or even the three menu image resize apps that come to mind are not on the repo, Gnome has its plugins but KDE is left the poorer07:18
BanisterKellyHere is another question: Why do I get commit/broken package errors when I install/update?07:19
papihere comes another more question. Any experience in using Heimdal kerberos and php5?07:19
BanisterKellyWhy does installing Kubuntu 7.10 CD/DVD say there is a version update?07:20
Linux_GaloreBanisterKelly: hmm I got that too but not from the dvd install, worked fine though afterwards07:21
rayluBanisterKelly, your repositories might include the next version's preview07:21
Linux_GaloreBanisterKelly: sounds like you have an old cd/dvd07:21
BanisterKellyI just downloaded it earlier today.07:21
BanisterKellyTook a few hours to get it.07:22
rayluhave you configured your repositories yet?07:22
BanisterKellyYes.07:22
rayluthen I think you added the Hoary repository07:22
BanisterKellyBut everytime I run update/install of programs I get a program and the program crashes.07:22
BanisterKellyI get an error07:22
BanisterKellythen it crashes after I press Okay07:23
rayluby "the program," you mean adept?07:23
BanisterKellySomething about Commit breaking the Package, or something like that.07:23
BanisterKellyYeah, I think that the program.07:23
BanisterKellyAdd/Remove Programs07:23
rayluah. use: sudo dpkg --configure -a07:24
Evil_`How can I get Adobe's Flash Player to work with Konqueror?07:24
BanisterKellyRight now I am running from the LIve CD.07:24
Linux_GaloreEvil_`: just install adobe flash then it will work07:25
Linux_GaloreEvil_`: use your package manager07:25
BanisterKellyI will run that once I reboot.07:26
Evil_`Linux_Galore: ok, thanks07:26
Linux_Galore? flash07:27
Linux_Galore! flash07:27
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash07:27
rayluBanisterKelly, actually, there is a way to run that command as if it were happening on your system07:27
BanisterKellyI am stuck between using Kubuntu and OpenSuSE.  OpenSuSE runs vmware fine, but not Kubuntu.  Kubuntu has a much better selection of programs to check out.07:27
Linux_Galore!vmware07:27
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers07:27
BanisterKellyNow you're speaking my language.  lol07:28
rayluyou can mount your linux partition (as /media/linux, for example) and use chroot /media/linux07:28
BanisterKellyNever could get Vbox working in ANY Linux distros.07:28
rayluand then use dpkg --configure... from there07:28
Linux_GaloreI use xen on Fedora 8, total no brainer07:29
BanisterKellyI will look that up.07:29
BanisterKellyAll I am looking for is a way to run a 98SE in Linux so I can use my old favorites and still be running Linux.07:30
rayluBanisterKelly, define "old favorites"07:30
stdinBanisterKelly: try wine before vmware07:30
BanisterKellyMost of my favorite Windows programs will run fine in a virtual environment.07:30
BanisterKellyStuff like 3D Ultra Trains, LCARS/Star Trek programs and utilities.07:31
BanisterKellyOld programming environment I love to fool with07:31
rayluo.0...never heard of any of that...but if it runs in 98, I bet wine can handle it07:31
BanisterKellyOld Windows 9x software and a few games.07:31
BanisterKellySome from the Win 3.xx days.  lmao07:31
Jucatolcars...07:31
Linux_GaloreBanisterKelly: always try bocks or dosemu07:32
BanisterKellyLCARS - Library Computer Access and Retrieval System07:32
Linux_Galoreoops bochs07:32
Jucatoyeah I know :)07:32
BanisterKellyOS used in Star Trek07:32
rayluo.007:32
BanisterKellyI have a DOS program NO emulator can run without locking up the system.  lol07:32
Linux_GaloreBanisterKelly: most old windows games run fine in wine07:32
BanisterKellyLooks like I have quite a bit of reading to do.  lol07:33
stdinand Wine Is Not an Emulator = WINE07:33
Linux_GaloreBanisterKelly: always use mame roms, tons on the web and they run fine in Linux07:34
BanisterKellyWill Wine handle the programs used with MS agent tech?07:34
Jucatothey should have really named WINE is as WICL (weekel) :D07:34
stdinask in #winehq07:34
Linux_Galorehowtoforge as a guide for setting up vmware in Linux, very well done too07:36
Linux_Galores/linux/Ubuntu/07:36
stdinubuntu has a guide too...07:36
Linux_Galores/Linux/Ubuntu/07:37
rayluactually, blizzard games (including WoW), and the orange box run on wine ;D07:37
rayluwith miminal configuration07:37
BanisterKellyMost of the games I play others avoid.  lol07:37
rayluseriously, what does lcars do?07:37
BanisterKellyYou mean like LCARS Media Player, LCARS System, etc?  lol07:38
Linux_Galoredoesnt Ubuntu sponsor the winetools project (making wine easy)07:38
rayluo.0...nevermind07:38
BanisterKellyYup.07:38
BanisterKellyI am off to read.  Thanks for all the help and suggestions.07:38
rayluyou should redistribute xubuntu and rename everything with LCARS07:38
Linux_Galorewonder how far along that has gotten (winetools)07:38
raylu!winetoolls07:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about winetoolls - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:39
raylu!winetools07:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about winetools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:39
BanisterKellyCan I post a link here?07:39
ere4si!wine07:39
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.07:39
BanisterKellyNon linux link07:39
ere4si!AppDB07:39
ubotuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org07:39
Linux_GaloreBanisterKelly: why do you want the LCARS media player, Linux has a gazillion players and some even allow you too use windows themes and skins07:40
rayluare any of them called the LCARS media player though?07:40
BanisterKellyNo one said I wanted it, just mentioning a few LCARS programs I used in Winblows.07:40
BanisterKellyCheck out: http://www.bennisoft.com07:40
BanisterKellyI bought some of them before they became free and there were more when it first started.07:41
Linux_GaloreBanisterKelly: get ready to have your trekie mind explode heh imagine a portable Linux UMPC whats looks and works like the one on startrek http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwXBPjLdJnU07:42
Linux_Galoreget a N770 cheap as cheaps right now too07:43
Linux_Galorechips*07:43
Linux_Galoreor you can use superkaramba with some lcars themes http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/LCARS+Monitor+NEW?content=6282307:47
Linux_Galorein KDE07:47
Linux_GaloreHome page for the LCARS theme engine for the Nokia N770/N800 UMPC http://synthesize.us/LCARS_PADD?title=LCARS_PADD07:50
BanisterKellyNow that peeks my eyebrows.  lol07:50
BanisterKellyThe first one07:51
BanisterKellyI don't do wireless phones.07:51
Linux_GaloreBanisterKelly: well you can get a N770 for under US$10007:51
* Jucato has that link too :)07:51
JucatoBanisterKelly: it's not a phone :)07:51
BanisterKellyportable phones, whatever yo call them.07:51
Jucatonot even07:51
Jucato:D07:51
Linux_GaloreBanisterKelly: its a UMPC07:51
BanisterKellyWhats a umpc?07:51
Jucatoofficially it's an IT (Internet Tablet)07:51
JucatoUltra Mobile PC07:51
Linux_GaloreBanisterKelly: portable tablet device with WiFi and Bluetooth07:52
Jucatowhich is sort of a Windows "brand"...07:52
Linux_Galorethe N770 though technically isnt a PC because it runs an arm based cpu07:52
BanisterKellyOh boy, another thing bill has his filthy hands on.  lol07:52
Jucato(hence the Internet Tablet name)07:52
Linux_GaloreIm getting a N810 this xmas, got my order in over at amazon07:53
* Jucato is getting one 2008 Q1... no money yet...07:54
twylightLOL!!!!!!!11111one07:54
BanisterKellyI am saving for a new PC.07:54
BanisterKellyWill take several months.07:54
Linux_GaloreJucato: I had a look at the Q1, no keyboard put me offf07:54
DM|!offtopic07:54
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:54
JucatoLinux_Galore: lol! I meant first quarter of 2008 :)07:55
Linux_Galoreah07:55
Jucatooh well. ot :)07:55
* BanisterKelly zips his lips.07:55
BanisterKellylol07:55
BanisterKellyBack to researching.  Be back later.07:55
dmHello. Any idea how to persuade kmail to respect my umask of 0022 when saving attachments?07:56
Jucatoer.. still no luck w/ that? :(07:56
Linux_GaloreIve given up on kmail07:57
simion314Please help ,i have a big problem, , it is about my scrren resolution, i had yesterday problems when i chnge the resolution the screen was not corectly painted , my scrren suports verry large resolution, now when i turn on kubuntu the maxim resolution is 640x480, i do not enderstend what happend and how to fix this07:57
dmhmmm07:57
DM|dm stole my name !07:58
phaedraLinux_Galore, Just use Thunderbird...07:58
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Linux_Galorephaedra: I do07:58
DM|:P07:58
phaedraLinux_Galore, ;)07:58
Linux_Galorekmail has such allot of potential but it always seems to be buggy as hell or crippled by geek politics07:59
vltWhat's a good alternate MUA?07:59
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ere4sivlt: what's a mua?08:00
Linux_Galoreshould send the kmail guys to work at Mozilla for a while, few weeks of their whining and silly politics being laughed at will make them think08:01
Evil_`Any idea why I can't hear music from Amarok?08:03
Linux_GaloreEvil_`: do you have two sounds cards ie built in & pci sound card ?08:03
ere4siEvil_: done the obvious? - !sound08:04
Evil_`I guess lol, dunno08:04
ere4si!sound08:04
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:04
Linux_GaloreEvil_`: if you have two sound cards often it will default to the on-board sound not the sound card you have to tell it too use the correct one08:05
Evil_`in the sound options thing the PCM was down all the way08:05
Evil_`when I turned it up, it worked lol08:06
Linux_Galoreyeah, stupid default driver settings08:06
Evil_`lol, I knew sound was working in limewire :P08:06
simion314hi, i can't find no solution on google about my  resolution problem, just some people with the same problem, can anyoane help me? i can;t increase my resolution08:06
ere4sismion314: it usually is a video driver not installed08:07
darkness_sok simion314 what videocard do you have08:07
Linux_Galoresimion314:  type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:08
simion314ATI08:08
ere4siI've got to start hitting my keys harder!08:08
darkness_sare you using the restricted driver?08:08
Linux_GaloreI tried the Kubuntu graphical monitor setup tool and it totally messed it up heh08:09
simion314Linux_Galore: how much memory to give to my video card?08:11
spykedtomatohey all - before i switched to kubuntu i was running ubuntu (gnome) and installed f-spot from source - now I can see f-spot is still installed and I want to get rid of it - it doesn't show up as installed in Adept - any idea how I can remove it??08:12
Linux_Galoresimion314: dont worry about that, most of the stuff you can default08:12
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vltere4si: Mail User Agent08:13
Linux_Galoresimion314: xorg will look after that automatically08:13
ere4sik08:13
simion314Linux_Galore: they do not put in the memory field nothing, and i belived that it will default to something08:13
Linux_Galoresimion314: I always enter nothing for that08:13
simion314Linux_Galore: ok i will keep the defaul for all, if it will not work i will try other08:15
Linux_Galoresimion314: when you get to the resolution section use your space bar to mark the resolutions you want to use and up down to go weell up and down the menu08:15
posingaspopularspykedtomato: you can't remove it using the add/remove programs?08:15
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Jucatoposingaspopular!!!08:16
Jucatonot if he compiled it and didn't turn it into a .deb08:16
Jucatospykedtomato: do you still have the build directory (where you ran make and make install?)08:16
posingaspopularhey Jucato08:17
spykedtomatoJucato: looking08:17
posingaspopulari was going to suggest trying to purge <fspot> in CL. would that work?08:17
simion314Linux_Galore: i have the same problem like the person in the last post here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/cant-change-resolution-kubuntukde-535107/08:17
Jucatospykedtomato: if you do, run "make uninstall" (or sudo make uninstall)08:17
spykedtomatoJucato: no - i don't have the build dir08:17
Jucatoposingaspopular: APT or DPKG has no knowledge about things not installed through them08:18
Jucatospykedtomato: uh oh...08:18
spykedtomatohmm08:18
spykedtomatowait08:18
spykedtomatoi THINK i still have the tar08:18
Jucatono that won't be the build dir...08:18
spykedtomatoif it's the same version...08:18
Jucatothat would be the source dir... but you could try this (not guaranteed)08:18
posingaspopularahh i see08:18
Jucatotry to compile and install it in  exactly the same way as before08:19
Jucatothen uninstall it using make uninstall...08:19
spykedtomatoi could try...08:19
spykedtomatonot sure i remember how i did it - it was a long time ago :)08:19
Jucatouh oh...08:19
Jucato:/08:19
Jucatoanyway, afk08:19
spykedtomatoback in dapper - right before i switched to kubuntu08:20
DjDarkmanmy laptop stoped running my hard drive with dma, what should I do?08:25
stdinDjDarkman: if it's on gutsy then libata will sort out the dma settings for you08:27
phaedraDjDarkman, Just use hdparm -d08:27
noobuntuhow can i know if my desktop depth is set to 24 bits?08:27
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DjDarkmanstdin what do you mean?08:27
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DjDarkmanphaedra: I checked before08:28
DjDarkmandma is off08:28
DjDarkmanand my harddisks spead is 1MB/s08:28
DjDarkmanhow can I check why is there no dma?08:29
stdinDjDarkman: with gutsy libata handles sata and pata disks the same, no need to set the dma setting08:30
phaedraDjDarkman, Just use hdparm -d1 /dev/whatever to set it back on...08:30
stdinDjDarkman: mode IDE type settings aren't needed (and hdparm will fail if it's using libata)08:30
DjDarkmanok it`s back08:31
DjDarkmanbut why did this happen?08:31
DjDarkmanI mean this happened last day08:31
DjDarkmanbut my harddisk worked before08:31
DjDarkmanis there a logical explanation for it?08:32
phaedraDjDarkman, there are some problems with 7.10 and laptop hd's...  It has something to do with the power saving routines being too agressive.  That might be it.08:32
soadbihola alguien de ecuador??08:37
stdin!es08:38
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.08:38
ristohow i install geforce 440 drivers ?08:43
stdin!nvidia08:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:45
simion314Linux_Galore:Thx, fix it08:53
fairyeneriedhello everybody08:56
simion314i have 2 network cards and a modem, i want to share the internet with an other computer, i read on the forums how to make this but i have a problem , how can i determine witch card is eth0 and whitch is eth1 ,?08:56
fairyeneriedi have a problem, a really big problem, i can't use KDe cause KDE windows are borderless and KDE does not recognize any keboard input :(08:56
stdinsimion314: unless you know the mac address of each, you just have to try it one way and see08:57
fairyeneriedthe weird fact is, i'm using konversation now under gnome and it seems to be complete08:57
bazhangfairyeneried: is this using compiz in kde session?08:58
fairyeneriedi think i have no compiz installed, but, yes, seems to be a compiz problem08:58
bazhangfairyeneried: if using compiz there is a fix, if not need more info08:59
simion314stdin: i know theyr name, there are diffrent, i need to see the name of the cards to determine what is eth0 and what is eth108:59
fairyeneriedi have no compiz inatlled08:59
fairyeneriedi was looking at synaptic and i don't have it08:59
niko_hi to all08:59
arun_how do i move a folder into another folder using mv09:00
niko_italian chan09:00
bazhang!it | niko_09:00
ubotuniko_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:00
niko_tnx09:00
stdinsimion314: you can try using "sudo lshw" (you may need to install the package)09:00
josephanyone know which internet messenger for windows uses very little bandwidth?09:01
se7en_mv -r somefolder /home/some/other/folder arun_09:01
stdinarun_: mv directory1 directory209:01
DjDarkmanphaedra: is there some way to make 7.10 not want to save power?09:01
arun_thank you se7en, stdin09:01
DjDarkmanI mean I was happy with the power saving features before 7.1009:01
arun_se7en: it says -R is an illegal option09:02
arun_sorry -r09:02
stdinarun_: "mv directory1 directory2" no -r09:02
arun_alright09:02
simion314stdin: i try to start firestarter and put to share internet with eth0 first and then with eth1  but it said that device is not ready, but first i want to determin exactly with card is witch09:02
arun_stdin: worked09:02
arun_thanks :)09:02
stdinsimion314: the interface won't be "up" unless it connected to something09:03
arun_um how do i cd to folders that have spaces in the name09:03
se7en_use the\ for\ files09:04
fairyeneriedbazhang: i have no compiz09:05
phaedraDjDarkman, You can try noacpi boot param but I don't know if that'll stop the cycling...09:05
stdinarun_: use tab to complete the name, spaced need to be "escaped" with a back-slash   "cd folder\ with\ some\ spaces"09:05
arun_alright.. thanks09:05
DjDarkmanphaedra: is the dev team working on a solution for this problem?09:05
bazhangfairyeneried: have you checked the themes for a better alternative (ie one with borders)09:06
arun_thanks a lot se7en, stdin09:06
arun_you've been a real help! :)09:06
fairyeneriedbazhang: i'm using plastik theme09:07
fairyeneriedand i'm in gnome now, and my Konversation window has borders09:07
fairyeneriedi did kwin --replace, and gnome borders gone and kde borders appeared09:08
bazhangfairyeneried: have you tried another--to see if the problem persists09:08
fairyeneriedunder gnome XD09:08
phaedraDjDarkman, I don't know but the trouble is with the power.sh script that is run.  It issues an hdparm -B1 to all block devices...09:08
fairyeneriedlet me try09:08
DjDarkmanbut that is wrong phaedra it makes my dvd writer useless09:11
phaedraDjDarkman, You can always edit the affected files...  But I think 7.10 has a few gotchas in it.  It's the reason I've gone back to 7.04...09:11
fairyeneriedbazhang: i'm here again09:11
fairyeneriedno luck09:12
phaedraDjDarkman, What makes the dvd useless?09:12
DjDarkmanphaedra: if It turns off DMA on my HDD and my DVD writer then how am I supposed to write DVD`s?09:12
fairyeneriedi started a session in KDE, changed themes to all other themes, windows remains borderless, then i tryied changing window decorations, and the problem continues09:12
bazhangfairyeneried: so now you no gnome borders but yes on the kde borders? strange09:12
fairyeneriedno no no09:13
phaedraDjDarkman, Not turning off dma...  Turn off acpi.09:13
DjDarkmanall this stuff happens in laptop mode?09:13
fairyeneriedi'm in gnome, windows are normal09:13
fairyeneriedgnome borders and gnome decoration except inside09:13
fairyeneriedkde windows have plastik decoration09:13
phaedraDjDarkman, yes.  It happens as soon as you go to battery power.09:13
DjDarkmanyeah that`s cool phaedra but I`m not on battery power and DMA is turned off on all09:14
fairyeneriedok, under gnome i openen a terminal and wrote "kwin --replace" then borders changed to other borders, i think they're KDE borders09:14
fairyeneriedthen i closed terminal, and of course borders disapeared, i got a gnome with no window borders09:15
phaedraDjDarkman, Just turn 'em on again...09:15
thomax__!powermanagement09:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about powermanagement - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:15
thomax__!laptop09:15
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org09:15
bazhangfairyeneried: you have kde4 gnome and kde all installed at the same time correct? did you have this issue before you installed kde4?09:15
fairyeneriedi openen the appareacen control panel in selected something trying to enable little compiz features09:15
DjDarkmanwould it be wise phaedra to just delete the lines from the power.sh where it goes into "laptop_mode"?09:15
fairyeneriedsystem says, ther's no compiz and restored my window borders09:15
simion314where can i set my ip in KDE ?09:15
DjDarkmansimion314: system settings -> networking...09:16
fairyeneriedthen i have gnome working and kde apps working under gnome, but kde session is useless09:16
phaedraDjDarkman,  No...  You can add some things to stop the cycling...  I'll see if I can get you a url for it.  Hang on...09:16
DjDarkmanok09:16
fairyeneriedbazhang: i don't have kde409:16
fairyeneriedand this is the first time i try to use KDE09:17
phaedraDjDarkman, Here's one.  http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=16&t=465809:17
simion314DjDarkman: how can i start it as root?09:17
DjDarkmanone thing I don`t understand... how does turning off DMA save power?09:17
fairyeneriedi mean using KDE in this installation09:17
DjDarkmansimion314: it will ask for your root password don`t worry09:17
bazhangfairyeneried: so now you have borders back again--after trying to start compiz?09:18
simion314it do not ask me yet, and it seams that the options are disabled09:18
phaedraDjDarkman, And another one.  http://paul.luon.net/journal/hacking/BrokenHDDs.html09:18
fairyeneriedyes, cause system cannot start compiz, thee's no compiz file at all, and then when this panel fails starting compiz then it restored last behavior XD09:19
bazhangfairyeneried: so that's fixed, or there's something still remaining?09:21
Les_CaesarsI use regular old ubuntu, but I use kopete as my instant messenger because it supports webcam. When I click on a hyperlink, it opens konqueror, which I do not want. How do I make it instead open up firefox?09:21
simion314DjDarkman:in network connections at network interface the devices are disabled(eth0 and eth1) and i can't configure the ips09:22
DjDarkmansimion314: no problem just re-enable them09:22
josephmost moviesin linux. is there like a codec pack i can get? cant play09:22
josephmost movies dont play in linux. anyone know of a codec pack?09:23
arun_If I were to format a 80GB hard disk as FAT32, approximately how much time would that take?09:23
arun_joseph: use vlc player09:23
bazhangjoseph: physical dvds or other?09:23
simion314DjDarkman: sorry i mean that they are grayed, i can,t modify the settings, it seams that at proxy i can meke changes but in this page i can't09:23
josephinternet within browser streaming09:23
josephwhich is why i need codecs09:24
fairyeneriedi closed ubuntu by error :(09:24
bazhangarun_: depends on your cpu09:24
DjDarkmansimion314: press admininstrator mode09:25
DjDarkmanbrb09:25
bazhangfairyeneried: how are those borders looking09:25
arun_bazhang: I have an intel core 2 duo processor with 1GB RAM09:26
fairyeneriedbazhang:  invisible09:26
bazhangarun_: then no time at all :}09:26
arun_bazhang: it's been on for like an hour or so now09:26
fairyeneriedand i can't write anything under KDE, it does not recognize my keyb input09:26
arun_not completed09:26
fairyeneriedso, i'm planning to write a file with just a line inside "kwin --replace"09:27
fairyeneriedbut i don't know how to start a bash file :'(09:27
bazhangarun_: any indicator as to how much is completed?09:27
arun_bazhang: it's been stuck on 100%09:27
arun_it's not hung, but it's not showing as completed either09:27
arun_as in very close to 100%09:27
thomax__fairyeneried: chmod 777 file.sh09:28
bazhangarun_: sounds hung--maybe give it a few more minutes09:28
arun_bazhang: it's been this way for over an hour now09:28
thomax__fairyeneried: and to execute it, just type path to file in console09:28
bazhangarun_: at 100% for an hour?09:28
fairyeneriedi'll try to double click ir under KDE, cause KDE is not receiving me any keyboard input09:29
arun_near 100% yes09:29
arun_been stuck there09:29
bazhangarun_: any way to cancel it out?09:29
thomax__fairyeneried: drag and drop file to console09:29
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arun_bazhang: i just cancelled it, but when i plug it back in, it doesn't detect the drive09:29
joergguten morgen.09:29
thomax__!de | joerg09:30
ubotujoerg: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:30
joergsorry09:30
thomax__np09:30
arun_ok gotta go, brb in a bit09:31
maurii've a problem wwith adept manager. It say: Anoter process is usign.......09:31
thomax__what is the standard power/cpu manager that comes with kubuntu?09:32
fairyeneriedok, the idea of the script worked well, but i had to double clic it 3 times cause every new windows is borderless09:33
fairyeneriednow it is reading me my keyboard, but is still ignoring the dead keys..09:33
maurii've a problem wwith adept manager. It say: Anoter process is usign.......09:34
simion314DjDarkman: thx, that button was not visible, now i have the error: Gateway ip is invalid, i want to share this intenet with other computer, so i put on that computer the default getway my ip 192.168.0.1 and i put on my computer the same gateway like my ip09:34
ristoi installed ET wolfenstein and it was very slow motion, could it be because i have wrong driver?09:41
fairyeneriedno, problem persists in KDE09:41
fairyeneriedi have no compiz, but the problem seems to be a compiz like problem :(09:41
fairyeneriedhow can i explicitly disable compiz?09:42
maurii've a problem wwith adept manager. It say: Anoter process is usign.......09:42
fairyeneriedi think the problem is there's no compiz, but KDE is trying to load it09:42
thomax__by uninstalling it?09:42
thomax__hmm09:42
fairyeneriedthere's no compiz, there's no way to uninstall it09:43
fairyeneriedmaybe some old conf files missing here and there... :(09:43
thomax__yeah, I figured09:43
yodo@mauri: this should be solved after a reboot09:43
ristowhat was the fps testing program ?09:44
mauriyodo: i know thet after reeboot it should be probably solved. I would like to avoid this case09:44
yodothen you have to find the process that is using apt and kill it09:45
mauriyodo: i seen but no process whit the name adept are existing09:46
ristowhat was the the name of testing video driver glx.. ?09:47
LynoureAkregator often hogs > 90% of my cpu and becomes quite unresponsive for a while, usually when updating the feeds. anything I can do about this?09:47
fairyeneriedthere's no solution for this problem, maybe i have to reinstall ubuntu again09:48
fairyeneried:(09:48
niko_guys09:48
niko_i wont to start up the eciadsl GUI....09:49
niko_but when i run eciadsl-config-tk09:49
niko_it's dispalyed09:49
mauriyodo: i seen but no process whit the name adept are existing09:50
niko_root@black-machine:/home/niko# eciadsl-config-tk09:50
niko_bash: /usr/bin/eciadsl-config-tk: /usr/bin/wish: bad interpreter: Nessun file o directory09:50
niko_someone can help me?09:50
risto8508 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1701.561 FPS is this normal score in glxgears ?09:51
josephanyone know of a program i can use to control other comps. i manage a network and would like to be able to see and control wat everyone on my network does all from my comp?09:51
Tm_Tristo: yes09:52
ristobut ET is very slow09:52
joseph5324 fps in glx gears here09:53
ristowrong driver, i use the nvidia restricted driver ?09:53
ristomine videocard is geforce 440 64mb09:53
niko_eciadsl....09:53
josephlol09:53
josephreally old card09:53
ristoyes09:54
risto2004 year card09:54
ristoonly 3 years old :D09:54
josephwow. didnt know they go to crap so ast09:54
josephim gonna need a new one in a year lol09:55
josephi have the 8600 gs09:55
fairyeneriedbazhang: the problem is related to KDE09:55
josephanyone know of a program i can use to control other comps. i manage a network and would like to be able to see and control wat everyone on my network does all from my comp?09:55
fairyeneriedi used my little script, then i got window borders back, then i opened anything else, and borders deissapear, i use the script again, borders back, i opened a gnome application, borders disaperas too...09:56
bazhangfairyeneried: hmm not sure there09:56
fairyeneriedi was planning to delete ~/.kde folder09:56
josephoh hey, important question here09:57
Lynourefairyeneried: just move it out of the way instead of deleting...09:57
fairyeneriedhehe, that's a better idea09:57
Lynourefairyeneried: that way you can restore some of the settings later.09:57
jpatrickand mail, etc09:57
josephi can alt+ctrl+right arrow into 4 different desktop screens; however, each screen hold the same icons. how can i make it so that they are all different instead of being a replica of my desktop09:58
twylightsend /usr to /dev/null10:00
twylightno don't10:00
jpatrickheh10:01
niko_there's someone who can help me in configuring eciadsl?10:02
fairyeneriedi'll do it this weekend10:05
fairyeneriedtake care guys, thanks for the help :)10:05
fairyeneried;)10:05
fairyeneriedbye10:06
mauriwhat means the packet was broke10:07
maverick_hey, am using amsn for some reason lately it doesn't save some of my settings when i chane them and i lose them when i restart it...ex. my Pesonal message...10:12
maverick_any ideas?10:12
thomax__where in /dev/ can I find my battery?10:12
posingaspopularwhen i run htop it shows 8 instances of amarok running10:15
simion314i want to share the internet connection, what should i put at default gateway?10:15
jpatricksimion314: what ip address your router is10:17
simion314jpatric: i have a modem and a network card, and i want to share the internet with the other computer  with this network card, i done this before in ubuntu but now i do not remember what ro put in gateway10:20
twylightgawd it's 5:0010:20
twylightnini10:20
stdinsimion314: the default gateway for the other pc(s) is the internal IP if your pc10:22
simion314jpatrick: i put the gateway identic to my networck card ip and it gives me that is an ivalid ipgateway ip, tried to put other ip but the same error10:23
simion314stdin: on the other computer the gateway  is the same like the ip on the computer with the internet10:27
stdinsimion314: no, it's needs to be your internal IP. 192.168.X.1  or similar10:28
simion314stdin: yes is 192.168.0.1 like the ip from my network card, the internet modem has dinamic ip10:29
simion314The applet in the network settings gives me the error default gateway ip, how those it check if is valid because i belive i entered a corect value?10:34
simion314how can i set the gateway manualy?10:36
stdinsimion314: by editing /etc/network/interfaces10:36
marco__Hello, where I can report bug against new KDE 4 RC1 packages? Maybe in Launchpad? Thanks,10:37
simion314stdin: something is not good with the interface from kde10:38
stdinsimion314: example: http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/53110:38
stdinmarco__: to kde -> #kde4-devel10:38
marco__stdin: thanks10:38
SSJ_GZmarco__: Is this a bug in KDE4 itself, or a packaging bug?10:38
marco__No, it looks like a KDE bug10:39
SSJ_GZmarco__: OK :)10:39
stdinmy packages are perfect, has to be a KDE bug :p10:39
SSJ_GZmarco__: Have you heard of Krush days, BTW? There's one today and it aims to make it easier to report bugs: http://techbase.kde.org/Contribute/Bugsquad/KrushDays10:40
The-CompilerHi10:42
DjDarkmanis there a way is there a way to make ubuntu not mess with my laptop and not destroying my harddisk by doing idiotic things other than turing apci off?10:46
DjDarkmanthe way gutsy manages these things is abnormal, is there a way put back feisty`s power management?10:48
Iggiåñòü ðóññêèå êòî ìîæåò ïîìî÷ü?10:48
twylightI'm going to write a poem,a poem with a twist10:50
twylightI'll write it with a razor blade,i'll write it on my wrist10:50
twylightWhen i start to write a little fountain will appear,&10:50
twylightwith that little fountain,my troubles disappear.10:50
Tm_Ttwylight: stop10:51
twylightwrong window10:51
Tm_Tyes, very wrong ;)10:51
simion314stdin: thx, now i have the configuration i wanted but the other computer can't ping me and i can ping it, and firestarter sais that my eth1 device is not ready,yes i configured eth1 and disbled the eth0 the internet comes from ppp010:51
stdinsimion314: have you enabled eth1 yet? given it an IP and activated it?10:52
simion314stdin: yes10:53
stdinsimion314: and "ifconfig eth1" shows its details?10:54
nikolas1983sigh sigh10:55
nikolas1983non mi parte la connesione10:55
stdin!it10:55
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:55
nikolas1983ops10:55
nikolas1983sorry10:55
nikolas1983yeap i know10:55
simion314stdin: it do not shows my ip , other things like :10:57
simion314iface eth0 inet static10:57
simion314        address 192.168.0.210:57
simion314        netmask 255.255.255.010:57
simion314        broadcast 192.168.0.25510:57
simion314        gateway 192.168.0.110:57
simion314sorry10:57
stdinif it's more than 2-3 lines, use pastebin10:58
simion314stdin : that was the intefaces file10:58
stdinI know10:58
simion314i do not have an ccount there, i do not want to paste that there, this program just read the \n and send the text10:59
stdinyou don't need an account to use pastebin10:59
simion314pastebin.net?11:00
stdinhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:00
simion314stdin: i hope this is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45684/11:03
stdinsimion314: ok, the interface isn't active. did you click the "Enable Interface" button in Network Settings ?11:04
simion314stdin: it is enabled11:05
simion314stdin: that it shows me there , the settigs are the one from the interfaces file11:05
simion314should i restart the computer11:06
ubuntu__hola11:07
stdinsimion314: "ifconfig eth1" shows it as not being enabled, try "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" and have a look again11:07
markus_please link to german channel11:07
stdinmarkus_: it's #kubuntu-de11:07
markus_thanks11:07
simion314stdin: it is the same output, i will restart the computer now and check it again11:09
stdinthat won't help, but he'll get the "I'll restart to fix it" idea out of his head11:09
lvjiabinHi,can someone tell me what kde4 works11:09
stdinit mostly works, it's not complete yet though11:11
lvjiabinStdin,thanks11:12
lvjiabinIt likely somewhat beautiful11:12
stdinvery :p11:13
lvjiabinEn ,do you know when the stable  come out?11:14
luca_blvjiabin: Tagging is in December11:14
blendtuxstdin: question11:14
blendtuxi am trying to install kde4 rc 111:14
blendtuxbut i got a dep problem11:14
stdinlvjiabin: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedul11:15
blendtux/msg stdin:11:15
blendtuxThe following packages have unmet dependencies:11:15
blendtux  kdebase-workspace-dev: Depends: libnm-util-dev but it is not going to be insta11:15
blendtux                         Depends: network-manager-dev but it is not going to be11:15
blendtuxE: Broken packages11:15
stdinblendtux: you need to remove all the old kde beta package, all of them11:15
blendtuxi never installed them stdin11:15
simion314stdin: same output11:15
lvjiabinstdin:En ,I   know !But too slow !11:16
stdinblendtux: both those are in main, should be installable. try installing them manually11:16
stdinlvjiabin: then go help out :)11:17
lvjiabinOh ,my poor  English11:17
stdinsimion314: post the /etc/network/interfaces file to pastebin11:17
lvjiabinHi,stdin!Can you tell  me Chinese chanel?11:18
jpatrick!cn11:18
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk11:18
stdin!cn11:18
lvjiabinThanks,evrybody11:19
simion314stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45687/11:21
blendtuxcant do it stdin, libnm-util-dev: Depends: libnm-util0 (= 0.6.5-0ubuntu16) but 0.6.5-0ubuntu16.7                                                              .10.0 is to be installed11:21
stdinsimion314: the one with the internet connection should not have "gateway 192.168.0.1" only the one without11:22
simion314stdin: i tried every thing, and the applet from kde complains that the gateway is invalid, try to put nothing there again, i will modify the interface file11:23
stdinblendtux: looks like you had gutsy-proposed enabled then disabled. try re-enabling it11:23
asktobyHow do I set the permissions on an SD card? It mounts as root:root and I can't seem to change it.11:23
blendtuxstdin: lol, ehm sorry what do you mean by that11:24
stdinasktoby: mount it with pmount, not mount11:24
asktobyTrying "Disks and filesystems", and also sudo chmod :mygroup /media/mountpoint11:24
asktobystdin: Is this facility not offered by the GUI? I don't mind CLI, but my wife does :)11:25
stdinblendtux: in adept, Adept > Manage Repositories, in the Updates tab make sure that the first 4 boxes are checked11:25
stdinasktoby: how are you mounting it?11:26
asktobyIf it doesn't automount, I right-click on the icon that appears on the desktop11:26
simion314stdin: is the same output from ifconfig eth1 and the applet gives me the same error that the gatway ip is invalid, i do not understend why is not working11:28
blendtuxthanks stdin :)11:30
stdinasktoby: is it ext3 ?11:30
stdinsimion314: in the interfaces file, take out the "gateway 192.168.0.1" and add "auto eth1" at the very top11:31
blendtuxbtw stdin how is kde 4 rc111:33
stdinblendtux: haven't had that much chance to test it yet :p11:34
blendtuxoke, but are you going to help with the krush days11:34
asktobystdin: It's VFAT, according to the 'mount' command11:34
stdinblendtux: I'm not a kde dev (not yet anyway), I just do the packaging11:35
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stdinasktoby: strange, it shouldn't/can't mount as root if the user is mounting it11:35
stdinunless you have a line for it in /etc/fstab?11:36
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simion314stdin:  the fiels are now emptin in system settings network.. and ifconfig output is the same, i belive i must try other time, some thing is wrong here, i made this before in ubuntu and in windows it works fine11:36
blendtuxbut the krush days, are for users to report bugs right11:36
blendtuxyou hdont have to be a developer to report bugs stdin11:36
stdinblendtux: yeah, but I haven't used it enough to see any bugs11:36
stdinbeen busy getting kdenetwork-kde4 to compile11:37
stdinwhich it now does :)11:37
asktobyquit11:37
simion314stdin: can i install other interface to the network settings?11:38
asktoby(sorry, typed into wrong window there.)11:38
asktobystdin: There is a line in the fstab, I think it was put there by "Disk and filesystems".11:40
asktobystdin: It reads "UUID=E494-4355 /media/R4DS auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 011:40
stdinsimion314: try resetting everything to what it was. then just give both PCs a static IP address and set the interfaces to start at boot. then make the 2nd PC use the IP of the 1st one as the gateway. then try getting firestarter to use it11:40
asktobystdin: I thought the "users" section would make it usable by all users, no?11:40
stdinasktoby: it should, but it's not11:41
stdinasktoby: you generally don't put a fstab line for removable media anyway11:41
stdinit should just be detected when inserted11:41
asktobystdin: Okay, I'll try commenting that line out11:42
simion314stdin: tha applet has a bug, i configured the both y cards to auto ,and it gives me the same gatway ip invalid, and i put them to automatic dhcpm11:42
stdinyou aren't using dhcp are you?11:43
simion314no11:43
asktobystdin: Having removed that line from fstab the device is now auto-mounted by the first desktop user, my wife on Ctrl-Alt-F711:45
stdinsimion314: keep it as manual, put in the IP address and click the "Activate when computer starts" button, on the 2nd PC do the same but click the advanced tab and put in the IP of the 1st PC as the gateway11:45
asktobystdin: How would I make it such that we both have write access to it?11:45
stdinasktoby: that'd be a bit difficult to let two users access it at the same time11:46
simion314stdin: thx for your time, i search for other interface, one from gnome maybe will work11:46
asktobystdin: Is it not just a matter of chowning /media/mountpoint to a group of which we are both a member?11:47
stdinasktoby: the easiest was is to put back the fstab line :p  add to it "uid=46"11:47
stdinasktoby: no, because chown only work on filesystems that have support for permissions11:47
asktoby**epiphany** :D11:48
stdinasktoby: that should be "gid=46" too11:48
stdinasktoby: you could also just do "umask=0000" I guess11:49
asktobystdin: what is the significance of 46 for the group identifier?11:49
stdinasktoby: that's the standard group number of the "plugdev" group11:50
asktobyMy wife and I are both a member of the "newmans" group (our surname), so could I go gid=newmans11:50
stdinit has to be a number, not a name11:50
stdinasktoby: try this line "UUID=E494-4355 /media/R4DS auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid,umask=0000 0 0"11:50
stdinthat should work11:51
asktobyIf I modify fstab manually  will it upset the "Disks and filesystems" utility?11:52
stdin"Disks and filesystems" is just a GUI for fstab11:52
asktobyNeither my wife nor I have permission to mount the device now, I have to manually mount it as root.12:02
simion314had anyone tried SUSE linux? i wan to now how is it in compare tu ubuntu12:02
stdinasktoby: it should be the same line as before, just with ",umask=0000" at the end12:04
asktobystdin: I have:12:05
asktobyUUID=E494-4355 /media/R4DS auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid,umask=0000 0 012:05
asktobyShould that be user, not users? I'm reading fstab on wikipedia now and it says "user" singular12:06
stdinasktoby: they are different options, users lets users mount it. user only lets the owner of the device node mount it (probably root)12:06
kde4stdin: i installed the packages but now i want to run kde4 instead its running kde312:07
stdinkde4: the instructions are on the announcement page12:08
maini10Hello, I have noticed a serious regression (at least in my Pc) after today's upgrade of some KDE 4 packages. Now kickoff is disappeared and "The object cannot be created" is shown as error in many places of desktop.12:08
asktobystdin: I've found that I can mount it using the command "$ mount R4DS" but I can't by right-clicking the GUI icon.12:09
asktobystdin: Right clicking and choosing mount gives me a "permission denied".12:10
invite_can somone tell how to set the language of a specified app (like ksysguard) ?12:11
invite_From konsole12:11
stdinasktoby: you can create a new "link to application" and have the command "mount R4DS" then you could just double click that link to mount it12:11
kde4yes but i followed everything from the website on kubuntu12:11
invite_I have some .mo i want to test12:11
stdinkde4: then you choose kde4 from the KDM login menu12:12
invite_What's the channel for internationalization issues ?12:13
kde4yes i did, and then i get a kde3 desktop12:13
stdininvite_: #kde-i18n ?12:13
invite_thnx12:14
stdinmaini10: I see nothing like that, try re-running the apt-get line to make sure you have all the needed packages12:14
stdinkde4: and you edited the file too?12:14
stdinkde4: and added the lines to /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde ?12:15
invite_Found no one in  #kde-i18n , strange !!!12:15
kde4yep i did stdin12:15
invite_stdin  : Are you sure for the channel?12:15
maini10stdin: unfortunately, no further upgrades are available12:15
stdininvite_: no, it was a guess. maybe someone knows in #kde12:16
invite_:)12:16
invite_maybe google can be of some help too, thanks12:17
stdinmaini10: can you post the output of this command to pastebin:    dpkg -l|grep "4:3.96.0"12:19
asktobystdin: That works for me. It's a little scruffy (!) but it does work,thanks.12:21
stdinasktoby: there is no perfect solution, only well hidden problems :)12:22
kde4is there a way to manualy start kde4 stdin12:23
SoulChildi am running gnome,... which package do i have to install to get KDE 4 ???12:23
stdinkde4: in Xephyr yes, instructions also on the announcement page12:23
stdinSoulChild: see the topic12:23
maini10stdin: Done, now I have to leave this conversation, thanks12:23
stdinmaini10: you have to post back the URL ;)12:24
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kde4to manualy run kde4 in a full screen session not trough kdm12:25
maini10stdin: sorry http://pastebin.com/med4583312:25
stdinthanks12:25
maini10stdin: thanks for your help, bye12:25
kde4let me try something brb12:26
nvivohi... can anyone give me a hint on a bash script i'm creating?12:40
nvivoI would like to automate the installation of packages, so I want to create a file that lists the packages I want to install12:41
nvivoI have been playing with xargs... but I would like to ignore new lines and comments (starting with #)12:41
nvivowhat would be the best way to do it? pipe it through grep and xargs or is there any app to read config files?12:42
thomas_hi, I get some error 21 in grub when booting, saying that device doesn't exist, now, kubuntu is installed on sdb2, do I set up grub like this? (hd1,1) ?12:43
thomas_!grub12:43
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:43
kde4oke i am in kde4 stdin12:46
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kde4but to be honest, i wished i had not install it, :(12:50
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DexterFhi12:54
DexterFfriend of mine (computer illiterate) needs an app to convert avi to dvd - KMediaFactory didin't work well, target doesn't fit on a dvd12:55
stdintry devede12:55
DexterFill have a look, thanks12:56
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praveenmhi all, how to enable desktop effects in kubuntu? installed compiz-kde and settings are already enabled in ubuntu.13:05
stdinpraveenm: you have to start compiz manually, Alt-F2, compiz --replace13:09
nikkcan someone help me i am having a mouse issue on gutsy13:10
nikksay i have 3 windows open and my mouse shifts and hit on of the window it makes the window i am working on unactive13:10
praveenmstdin:Ok, thank you13:11
Exilantshouldn't ksnapshot start if i press the "print screen" button?13:12
kaminixHow do I split an album inte a one-flac-per-song format from a one-flac-and-one-cue-per-album format again?13:16
blendtuxmy god,13:16
blendtuxi am glad i am back :)13:16
nikkcan someone help me ??13:17
Tm_Tnikk: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html13:18
blendtuxanybody is running kde 4 rc 113:33
Tm_Tsome of use is13:33
Tm_Ts/use/us/13:33
nikkTm_t thanks mann13:33
Tm_Tnikk: np13:34
DexterFstdin: devede works a charm - for me, said friend has not enough disk space :P thanks tho, can use that myself...13:49
stdin:)13:50
Fraggy4stdin: could you help me out with some weird graphical error i'm having?13:56
stdindepends what it is13:56
Fraggy4I have little vertical lines over every menu and taskbar13:56
stdinATI?13:57
Fraggy4What?13:57
stdinATI graphics card?13:57
Fraggy4No, It's a Neomagic laptop card13:57
Fraggy4Old Sony Vaio13:57
stdinhmm13:57
stdinyou're not running XGL are you?13:58
Fraggy4I had the problem before in 7.04 but I fixed it somehow13:58
Fraggy4um13:58
Fraggy4What's XGL?13:58
stdin(you'd have installed xserver-xgl if you're running it)13:58
Fraggy4oh13:59
Fraggy4um13:59
Fraggy4I don't think so13:59
Fraggy4stdin: It's not installed14:00
Fraggy4Should I install it?14:00
stdinno14:00
Fraggy4ok14:00
Fraggy4What am I going to do then?14:01
stdinI don't think there's much you can do, sounds like a driver issue14:01
Fraggy4I fixed it before though14:01
Fraggy4Typed something in konsole14:01
tekteenLinux + Vio = BAD14:03
Fraggy4not really14:03
stdinFraggy4: have a look on the forums http://ubuntuforums.org14:04
Fraggy4It runs great, it just has that one issue14:04
Armakidonhttp://tinyurl.com/2phfvb14:06
jhutchinsFraggy4: use sudo lspci to find the video chipset, then google that + xorg to get your solution.14:06
stdinArmakidon: ?14:07
TimSWhat package is WAV support in?14:08
niko__hi to all14:08
TimS!wav14:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wav - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:08
niko__how can i configure tha Avant Window Manager?14:09
Tm_TTimS: builtin14:09
niko__i'mo n kubuntu 7.1....14:09
Tm_Tniko__: Kubuntu uses Kwin14:09
niko__yeap....14:09
TimSTm_T: What about installing into amarok?14:09
niko__and compiz....14:09
Tm_TTimS: builtin14:09
niko__i can't replace avant?14:10
niko__sorry kwin with avant14:10
TimSTm_T: Well why arent they added to my media when I rescan collection?14:10
Tm_TTimS: they don't have tags?14:10
TimSThey might not, but they should still be added.14:10
Tm_TTimS: perhaps14:11
Tm_TTimS: you can open them separately though14:11
TimSYeah i can14:11
Tm_Tniko__: sure you can, but you need to ask help then from avant channels, as we prolly don't know about it14:11
niko__great14:12
niko__here is a chan?14:12
Tm_Tno idea14:12
niko__#awn14:13
niko__founded!14:13
maverickanyone has any idea how to disable file icon preivew..and enable just the files icons14:14
mavericki mean like pdf files they always get a preview icon instead of the pdf icon...i don't want that14:14
maverick?!!14:14
Tm_Tniko__: does their website give help?14:16
jiutianhi14:16
niko__uhm....14:16
Tm_Tmaverick: look konqueror settings14:16
niko__i dunno their website14:16
niko__eheheh14:16
maverickTm_T: can't find anything useful?! do u know how to do it?!14:18
stdinmaverick: View > Preview and make sure "Postscript, PDV and DVI Files" isn't selected14:19
niko__Tim_T14:19
stdin*PDF not PDV14:19
niko__do u know their website?14:19
Tm_Tniko__: who is Tim_T ?14:19
niko__sorry14:19
niko__:)14:19
Tm_T;)14:19
niko__Tm_T:14:19
niko__eheheh14:19
stdinniko__: from the topic of #awn http://wiki.awn-project.org/14:19
niko__great14:20
maverickstdin: does this reflect on the desktop too?! cause i want it to be global14:20
stdinalways read topics14:20
stdinmaverick: not sure, should do I think14:20
niko__even if i'm italina, i prefer this live help channel!14:20
niko__:)14:20
deguzhi all!14:24
deguzi need help14:24
deguzabout wlan14:24
deguzcan anyone help me please?14:24
stdin!wifi14:25
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs14:25
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deguzthanks :)14:25
[ifr0g] !dvd14:25
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs14:25
[ifr0g]!Medibuntu14:26
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org14:26
deguzthanks stdin, i'm going to read it :)14:26
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blendtuxis there a way to transfer a job to another konsole14:30
stdinblendtux: only when using screen14:31
stdin!screen14:31
ubotuscreen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen14:31
blendtuxdamm, cause i have job (wget) running, and the konsole is crashed but wget is still running14:31
stdinyou can just kill wget and then resume it14:33
stdin"killall wget; wget -c <the URL>"  from the same directory14:34
niko__just installe the awn14:35
niko__but it doesn't start...14:35
blendtuxthanks :)14:36
niko__the avant window navigator work14:41
niko__but the manager doesn't start14:42
stdinyou'll have to ask in #awm if that's their channel14:42
tekstacymorning all14:44
hackersmorning14:44
tekteenmorning14:45
* tekstacy pours the coffee14:45
stdin!coffee14:47
ubotucoffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java14:47
tekstacycan anyone reccomend a tutourial or something like that for a new linux user? Something I can leave on the desktop of a new install?14:47
onishidato!coffee14:47
ubotucoffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java14:47
onishidato!manager14:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about manager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:48
onishidato!transcode14:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about transcode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:48
stdin!msgthebot > onishidato14:48
tekstacyQualcom uses brew instead of java, it sucks14:48
tekstacyLike a quick-start guide for those who use win14:50
tekstacy?14:50
CrazyPoultryI just did a clean install of 7.10, of the past few times i've done this(seem to be getting good at breaking things), i've had a tray icon for the restricted drivers, this time i don't have one, how do i get them now?(sorry still pretty new to linux in gneral)14:50
onishidatodo you guys know any software can play mp3 file beside Amarok?? can you show me?14:50
tekteenonishidato: vlc? mplayer?14:51
stdinCrazyPoultry: system settings > advanced > restricted drivers14:51
tekstacygoogle the vlc media player14:51
onishidatook14:51
stdinanything built against libmad14:51
CrazyPoultrystdin: ty14:51
onishidato "dpkg was interrupted" what does it mean??14:52
onishidatohow can i correct it?14:53
tekteenIt means it stopped while working14:53
stdinmeans you need to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"14:53
tekteenthanks stdin14:53
onishidatoty14:53
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tekstacy:)14:58
onishidatoThe following packages have unmet dependencies:14:58
onishidato  mplayer: Depends: libdvdread3 (>= 0.9.6) but it is not installable14:58
onishidatoi don't know what to o next14:58
tekteen!info libdvdread314:58
ubotulibdvdread3: library for reading DVDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 56 kB, installed size 192 kB14:58
tekteenyou need to enable the 'universe' repository14:58
tekteen!repo | onishidato14:59
ubotuonishidato: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu14:59
tekteenonishidato: That should tell you how to enable universe15:00
tekstacyafter you do that, you may want to get kubuntu-restricted-extras15:00
tekteenonishidato: I also use medibuntu15:01
tekteen!medibuntu15:01
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org15:01
blackoutsomeone here who can help me with my mobile internet??15:01
tekteenblackout: u mean like an air card?15:02
blackoutyeah its a mobile usb modem15:03
tekteenI do not know if those work in linux15:03
blackouti can chat with u, download updates15:03
tekteenif u want I can google it15:03
tekstacytekteen medibuntu rocks15:04
tekteentekstacy: yep15:04
tekstacyI have an aircard15:04
tekteencool15:04
blackoutbut no function in the konqueror15:04
tekstacyNo idea. When I finally got mine to work, everything that used it worked15:05
tekstacytry firefox15:05
blackoutone more querstion.15:07
tekteenask away15:07
blackoutis it usefull to update every file??? in the adept manager15:08
tekteenfile?15:09
tekteenyes update every package in the manager15:09
blackoutok thx15:10
tekteen(or updater)15:10
tekteensame program different look15:10
blackoutand the sources??? main, universer, multiverse15:11
tekstacyenable them all15:11
tekteenu mean repositories (repos), not sources15:12
tekteensources are different15:12
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SpoZenwhy do i get 530 login error on my ftp server?15:14
tekteenMy ESP tells me because something is wrong15:14
enojIs there an easy way to convert a CD ISO to a DVD ISO? I only have empty DVDs available :/15:14
tekstacy:)15:14
tekteencan't you just burn the iso to a dvd15:14
bazhangenoj: just burn away15:15
tekstacyenoj, you can do that15:15
enojK3b won't let me, says to insert empty CD in drive ..15:15
tekstacyIt may give you a warning about the file size, ignore it and all will be well15:15
bazhangenoj: close that window, then choose burn dvd iso, find the iso file then burn15:16
jhutchinsSpoZen: If you don't know, you shouldn't be running an ftp server.  You're pretty much guaranteed to get hacked.15:16
tekteenSpoZen: you may want to ask on the #ubuntu chat. Also post the configuration file (and other important info) on pastebin.15:16
tekteenthis will help who ever helps u15:17
enojbazhang, tekstacy: thanks15:18
SpoZenthanks, im just running a ftp server on lan so i cant get hacked15:18
fairyeneriedhi bazhang15:18
bazhangenoj: no worries :}15:18
bazhangfairyeneried: hi!15:18
tekstacyyw15:18
fairyeneriedi'm the small eyed fairy...15:19
tekstacyMmm lunch.  Thanks for the help. Bye all....15:19
fairyenerieda lot of time and KDE is working bad... no window borders, i think i'll do a sudo apt-get remove --purgue whateversoundslike KDE15:19
root____hey can someone tell me when u install flashplayer which is the path required?15:20
jhutchinsroot____: Install it from apt.15:21
fairyeneriedi was planning to reinstall all this ubuntu gutsy, and i thought, how can i tst it before, then i placed the DVD inside, started it, installed scim and scim-bridge and tested... gnome works well with scim, and kde no, that's the uglu ugly true15:21
fairyeneriedthen, i'll stay here until somebody fixes scim-bridge-qt or my friend become involved in this library... i think he's interested in doing that...15:22
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mateuszaaahej15:25
onishidatotekteen: thanks15:26
mateuszaaadoes anyone know why if iinstalled new kernel and i want run him i have got error  :15:27
mateuszaaainvalid unsupported executeable format15:27
PA3DLKno15:27
mateuszaaaxD15:27
fairyeneriedpeople, I just need help in one of the most weird cases around KDE of the XXI Century. Was the year of 2007 and... ok, without the Hitchcock intro... I installed ubuntu, of course with Gnome, then i installed Amarok, then few days later kdebase, yesterday SCIM  with chinese and japanese support, after that (i removed default compiz, this computer does not support it, but system wanted to update it, then my friend asked me to remove it), then i15:28
fairyeneriedconfigured SCIM as the guide says... AND... i started KDE just for curiosity... and the problem is KDE have no window borders, as i said i have no compiz at all, what the problem could be, and how can i solve it?15:28
deguzstdin: your links didn't help me :( about the wlan15:30
deguzi tried everything15:30
deguzreally everything15:30
deguzi use a hp compaq 6720s notebook15:30
deguzand i can't get the wlan working15:30
fairyeneriedI think a side effect is KDE apps read keyboard input under gnome, but not in KDE session, in KDE session keyboard is useless completelly useless, and even under gnome they ignore dead keys there's no way to write mam´a (mom in spanish) cause, as you can see, the accent was written alone... any help, please!15:31
deguz(without bios-upgrade even the lan didn't work)15:31
deguzeven the light on the wlan button doesn't change when i push it15:31
deguzwhen i type iwconfig i get this:15:31
deguzlo        no wireless extensions.15:32
deguzeth0      no wireless extensions.15:32
deguzwlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:off/any15:32
jhutchins!paste | deguz15:32
ubotudeguz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)15:32
stdindeguz use the pastebin service15:32
deguzso i pasted it :)15:34
deguzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45700/15:34
deguzsorry again15:34
deguzand thenks the unban15:34
stdinfairyeneried: try asking in #kubuntu-es15:34
deguz*thanks15:34
dengpengCould anybody please tell me why when I scroll on an inactive window, it gains focus? and how to avoid that?15:34
stdindeguz: it was just a mute, so others didn't get flooded, only I could see what you typed15:35
deguzohh i see15:35
deguzso it seems to work alright15:35
deguzbut i can't get it worked :(15:36
deguzcan you help me?15:36
funkjawhere can I go for help with KDE 4 RC1?15:37
stdindeguz: in pastebin, post what "iwlist wlan0 scan" says15:37
stdinfunkja: #kde4-devel15:37
funkjathanks15:37
deguzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45701/   (but it isn't correct, (I'm in a dorm) my roommate sees wlan networks, and even when i used windows. it saw)15:39
stdindeguz: is there a switch for the wireless on the laptop?15:39
deguzdo you mean a button?15:39
stdineither15:40
deguzwell there is a button, but it doesn't work15:40
stdinyou've tried scanning, then pressed the button, then tried scanning again?15:40
deguzyes15:40
deguzthe same result :(15:41
stdinwhat's the make and model of the card?15:41
deguzlspci says this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45703/15:42
stdinhave you installed the driver?15:42
deguzyeah15:42
deguzi tried ndiswrapper and bcm43xx too15:43
stdinwhich one first?15:43
deguzbcm43xx15:43
stdinhmm15:43
deguzbut i blacklisted and rmmod -ed it15:43
deguzi don't understand this situation, i tried thousands of how-tos15:44
artur_how can i discover the MAC adress of my wireless Lan card?15:45
stdindeguz: I don't know why it's not working, sorry15:45
deguzif it works, ifconfig writes it i guess15:45
deguzohh :(15:45
deguzanyway, thanks the help15:46
deguzstdin: are you Ubuntu-dev?15:46
stdinheh, nope15:46
deguzi thought first :)15:46
stdintry posting a thread on the forums and see if someone knows, more people will see it anyway15:46
deguzokay, thanks the hint :)15:47
funkjaSSJ_GZ: i'm here15:47
marianninahi15:47
SSJ_GZfunkja: Can you pastebin the output of15:47
SSJ_GZdpkg --list | grep kde415:47
SSJ_GZ?15:47
marianninaI don't have audio in kdenlive15:48
funkjaone moment15:48
stdinthe instructions do quite clearly state to remove all kde4 packages...15:48
funkjaSSJ_GZ: http://pastebin.com/d58a3f37515:49
SSJ_GZfunkja: Those first two (3.94) probably shouldn't be there.15:50
artur_Who knows how can i discover the MAC adress of my wireless Lan card?15:50
funkjaok15:50
stdin!brokenkde4 | funkja, it's not great, but this should fix it15:50
ubotufunkja, it's not great, but this should fix it: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »15:50
stdinartur_: with ifconfig15:50
daffa!webcam15:52
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras15:52
funkjaSSJ_GZ: i'm geting unmet dependances15:52
SSJ_GZfunkja: When doing what?15:53
funkjahttp://pastebin.com/d3ceff37715:53
funkjawhat you said to do15:53
stdinthat's ok, now just add those package to the end of the line15:54
daffa!easycam15:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easycam - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:54
SSJ_GZfunkja: That was stdin, not me ;)15:54
funkjaoh :)15:54
stdinfunkja: "sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-dev libplasma-dev libplasma1"15:54
SSJ_GZfunkja: Just try uninstalling all of those KDE4 packages, individually if need be15:55
stdinafter that just "sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev-kde4 kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-runtime"15:55
BluesKajhowdy all15:55
stdinSSJ_GZ: that's what the command does basically :)15:55
SSJ_GZstdin: Hehe - OK, funkja - do what stdin said :)15:55
stdinit's a horrible command, but it works...15:55
artur_<stdin> i tried ifconfig, but the MAC showed is strange....is something like 00-19-7D-74-42-70-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 , about the wired LAN card, the MAC is like 00:16:D4:C7:0B:B315:56
wraundhelp me. I used to be able to hold backspace and it would erase all my stuff constantly, now i have to kep on tapping it to erase things, what do i do oh kubuntu gurus?15:57
stdinartur_: paste the whole output to pastebin and I'll have a loog15:57
stdin*look15:57
wraundletters that is15:57
stdinwraund: system settings > keyboard & mouse > keyboard > enable keyboard repeat ?15:58
funkjaok, all the kde4 stuff is removed, i'm going to try to reinstall it again15:58
stdinyou should have no problem now15:59
bonbonciao15:59
SSJ_GZfunkja: Cool - good luck!15:59
artur_<stdin> eth1       Encapsulamento do Link: Não Especificado  Endereço de HW 00-19-7D-74-42-70-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-0015:59
SSJ_GZfunkja: If it works, remember to update your forum post with the solution :)15:59
artur_UP BROADCAST  MTU:1500  Métrica:115:59
stdinartur_: to pastebin!15:59
artur_sorry15:59
artur_i`m not used to IRC16:00
bonbonho un problema . non riesco a disinstallare un programma16:00
bonbonmi da degli errori16:00
stdin!it | bonbon16:00
ubotubonbon: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!16:00
artur_how can i do it? paste in pastebin?16:00
bonbonok scusate16:00
stdinartur_: it's ok, just go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, post all the text in and click send, then post the address back here16:01
wraundstdin: ty :D16:04
artur_ <stdin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45705/plain/16:04
wraundstdin: whey it worked, you rule :D16:05
stdinwraund: :)16:05
deguzis any hungarian person here?16:06
stdinartur_: hmm, I have no clue why it's printing like that. but the mac address is 00:19:7D:74:42:70 (just take out the 00's and replace - with :)16:06
stdin!!hu16:06
* tekteen has been raised from the dead (ate breakfast)16:06
stdin!hu16:06
ubotuMagyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál16:06
deguz:)16:07
deguzthanks :)16:07
stdin:)16:07
deguzi try there too, maybe hungarian persons bought more this kind of laptop16:07
fairyeneriedok stdin, i'll try16:08
fairyeneriedthanks for the help16:08
artur_ <stdin>, have a look. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45707/plain/16:08
artur_i did it...put : instead of -16:09
stdinartur_: apparently you need a specially patched version of the bcm34xx driver to use it16:09
stdinartur_: they usually have that information on http://www.aircrack-ng.org/16:10
artur_stdin: ok! thank u very much for the attention!16:11
master_okay so here's a random one, what is the package that will give me the sound settings dialog from ubuntu-desktop?16:12
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onishidatoi ahve install i softwear, but it doesn't appear. how can i make it appear now?16:19
onishidatoi have install a softwear, but it doesn't appear. how can i make it appear now?16:20
SSJ_GZonishidato: Which software?16:20
onishidatoxunikey16:20
onishidatoa soft allow me to type vietnamese16:20
SSJ_GZonishidato: Did you install from source, or from a package?16:20
Tm_Tonishidato: please don't repeat16:20
onishidatofrom package16:21
artur_stdin: I downloaded the patch that was required, i know what should i do now?16:21
SSJ_GZonishidato: Try dpkg --listfiles xunikey16:21
SSJ_GZdpkg --listfiles xunikey16:21
SSJ_GZonishidato: (Don't paste the output into IRC, though!)16:22
onishidatoIRC?16:22
onishidato!IRC16:22
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines16:22
SSJ_GZonishidato: IRC == what you are using to talk to us with right now :)16:22
onishidatooh sorry16:22
onishidato:)16:23
SSJ_GZonishidato: np :)16:23
stdinartur_: you have to apply that patch to the source code and rebuild it16:23
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artur_stdin: thank's16:26
SoulRavero/16:33
SoulRaveranyone have a good solution for .pls feeds?16:35
* steel8 is away: Gone away for now.16:36
SoulRaverIf I got it right from my googeling, I need to install propraietery codecs?16:36
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francesca_ciao a tutti16:44
francesca_qualcuna sa come si cambia il colore del carattere nella konsole?16:44
SSJ_GZ!it | francesca_16:45
ubotufrancesca_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!16:45
francesca_sorry16:45
SSJ_GZfrancesca_: :)16:45
scribbleswhenever I plug in my external hard drive I get this..... "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000", reads fine in Windows. Any ideas?16:46
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ArelisHow do i install my printer?16:57
Tm_T!printer | Arelis16:58
ubotuArelis: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows16:58
kaizonNabend.17:01
Tm_T?17:02
kaizonOh, sorry.17:02
Radi01Anyone there?17:06
Radi01Hello?17:07
bazhanghi Radi0117:07
Radi01Hey bazhang: What codec needs to be installed for amarok to play shoutcast.17:08
Radi01Was that a dumb question.17:11
wastedfluidI didn't know it needed a codec17:11
wastedfluidheh17:11
wastedfluidI google'd it.. and foun dsomething about a gstreamer, but i wouldn't think you would need it; can you play .mp3s?17:11
Radi01I havent tried.'17:12
matttishello17:12
wastedfluidtry17:12
Radi01k17:12
wastedfluiddo you get an error when you try to play a shoutcast?17:12
matttisdoes anyone where the settings of Firefox are saved ?17:12
Radi01Yes but which Gstreamer file should be loaded There are many.17:13
llutzmatttis: ~/.mozilla/firefox/17:13
Radi01Probably the same one for rythmbox Ill try.17:14
matttisllutz: thx17:14
wastedfluidhold on17:14
Radi01I was useing Ubuntu and decided to try Kbuntu and am just now getting around with it..thanks.17:15
bazhangRadi01: I believe it is libxine-main1 and libxine117:15
Radi01K thanks.17:15
bazhangfrom teh google heh17:15
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wastedfluidbazhang: what did you search for?17:16
Radi01Ok t/y bazhang.17:16
bobishhhow can i configure my 7-button mouse ?17:16
bobishh=)17:16
wastedfluid........17:16
Radi01imwheel.17:16
wastedfluidI'm not even going to start with that one, lol17:16
llutzRadi01: tray installing kubuntu-restricted-extras17:16
Radi01k llutz.17:16
bazhangamarok shoutcast codecs install wastedfluid17:16
Radi01imwheel is touchy  takes time.17:18
Exilantscribbles: solved your problem? i have a similar one17:18
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scribbleswell17:19
scribbleswhat I did was run ntfs-config make sure everything was enabled, then you have to open the external as root17:19
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^|^hi guys17:21
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Exilantscribbles: yes, seems to be some settings problem. if i insert my usbstick, and open with dolphin(tried to change to konqui, now 2 pop ups), it gets mounted for root. Dunno where to look :/17:23
Vamp0rif i lock my session at kubuntu and close the lid of my lenovo t41 notebook and go away for some time the screen stays black and flickers and it is impossible to unlock the machine - does this problem have someone else here, too?17:24
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Vamp0raeh i use kubuntu 7.04 i forgot...17:24
usernyo17:28
BanisterKellyI could use some help.  I cannot update or upgrade.17:28
BanisterKellyI keep getting an error about Commit.17:28
BanisterKellyBreaking Package17:28
BanisterKellySomething like that.17:28
BanisterKellyThis is a fresh CD install.17:28
userntry running apt-get from bash/terminal17:29
BanisterKellyJust the words apt-get?17:29
BanisterKellyI am new to this stuff.17:29
userntry sudo apt-get update17:29
BanisterKellyProbably shouldn't be fooling with it.17:30
BanisterKellyOkay.17:30
usernthen sudo apt-get upgrade17:30
usernthis should help to see the full error17:30
bazhangBanisterKelly: no worries, listen to usern17:31
usernI am quite new also - so any see me writing cr*p let us know17:31
BanisterKellyThank you.17:31
usernsweet :D17:31
BanisterKellyI ran the apt-get and it gave an error and said to run 'dpkg --configure -a' so I did.17:31
usernok now try upgrade again17:32
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Vamp0rmaybe you should use the adept package manager17:32
BanisterKellyUpdate did something but upgrade does nothing.17:32
bazhangthe advantage to usern's method is to find the errors, though Vamp0r's method is generally good for no problem situations17:32
ExilantBanisterKelly: do what it suggests, sudo dpkg --configure -a17:33
Vamp0rit's the best invention since linux 0.0.1 :)17:33
BanisterKellyI did that Exilant17:33
Vamp0roh ok...17:33
ExilantBanisterKelly: and it still complains?17:34
BanisterKellyNo, so far all is well.17:34
usernsick!17:34
BanisterKellyI will try installing something to see if it works.17:35
DocTomoeHi. I'm trying to get suns java to run in my openoffice on my heisty machine. I am at the config dialoge of ooo, but I don't know what path I have to enter. any suggestions?17:35
matttisWhy does kubuntu only sometimes automount my external hd (startet after booting) ?17:35
BanisterKellythank you usern and Exilant17:35
jhutchinsDocTomoe: which java should return the path.17:35
usernDocTomoe open Teminal and type "whereis java"17:35
DocTomoe~s/heisty/gutsy/g17:35
TheGentlemanusing Kubuntu 7.10, how can I see which wireless networks are available ? (Wireless card works fine)17:36
DocTomoeusern: java: /usr/bin/java /etc/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz  ... however, this seems to be the FSF variant, I really need the sun one.17:36
DocTomoeNeed it for JDBC.17:36
ExilantBanisterKelly: thanks, but i didn't do anything17:36
usernis there a sun-java package available in adept anyone?17:37
tekteenusern: do u have backports enabled?17:37
DocTomoeusern, there are several in apt-get ... don't really like adept. and I have installed all of sun-java6-*17:37
usernadept installs things so nice its worth checking there 1st17:38
tekteenu need backports enabled though17:38
hamboboi deleted windows somehow, how do i get it back in ubuntu17:38
DocTomoeusern: adept fails to run without root privileges, even for "just looking", and fails to get proper warnings.17:38
buzzkill3138Look for kubuntu-restricted-extras.  It's the easiest way to get Java.17:38
sub[t]rnlTheGentleman: right clicking on the knetworkmanager icon will show available wireless networks17:39
usernok DocTomoe I would start looking on Sun's site for answers17:39
userngoing...17:40
TheGentlemannot on my system sub[t]rnl17:40
BanisterKellyAnyone know how to get Penguin Command?  Its not under add/remove programs.17:40
bazhangBanisterKelly: it is in the gutsy repositories17:41
TheGentlemansub[t]rnl, it doesn't!17:42
bazhang!info penguin-command17:42
ubotupenguin-command: a missile command clone. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.11-1 (gutsy), package size 929 kB, installed size 1536 kB17:42
bazhangBanisterKelly: sudo apt-get install penguin-command17:42
BanisterKellyWhere do I get it?17:42
sub[t]rnlTheGentleman: what does iwconfig show?17:43
BanisterKellythank you bazhang17:43
bazhangBanisterKelly: see the message three lines up17:43
BanisterKellyI think this was a bad install of Kubuntu.17:43
bazhangno worries :}17:43
wastedfluidiwconfig shows all networking device info for your machine.17:43
wastedfluidwell, the wireless extensions17:43
TheGentlemansub[t]rnl, it shows a working ath0 device17:44
BanisterKellyHow come that works and the add/remove don't?17:44
TheGentlemansub[t]rnl, I can't copy the output here as it is a different computer17:45
BanisterKellyThgis Linux stuff is confusing.17:45
sub[t]rnlTheGentleman: what Mode: is it in?17:45
BanisterKellyNeed to make a run out.  Thank you to all for the assist.17:46
BanisterKellyBe back later.17:46
TheGentlemansorry sub[t]rnl , what you mean with Mode ?  The computer i'm talking about is a laptop, just next to this computer and it is NOT cable connected now17:46
hamboboany1 know about ubuntu?17:47
sub[t]rnlTheGentleman: yeah, when you iwconfig ath0, what do you see in the Mode: output17:47
bazhanghambobo: you mean kubuntu? :}17:47
TheGentlemanMode: Managed17:47
hambobonot really17:48
sub[t]rnlhrm17:48
bazhanghambobo: then you might look in #ubuntu17:48
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hambobobut they wont help me17:48
TheGentlemansub[t]rnl, Mode: Managed17:48
sub[t]rnlyeah, wonder why knetworkmanager isn't showing the wireless access points then17:49
usernsub[t]rnl did you configure the wireless manually at some point?17:50
TheGentlemansub[t]rnl, right clicking on the icon shows a menu where only available choices are manual Configuration and Options17:50
hackergenehi ,all17:50
usernyo17:50
sub[t]rnlTheGentleman: whats "iwlist eth1 scanning" tell you17:51
simion314hi, my internet is working very slow and i am afraid that some KDE torent client is downloading behind the scene,is it posible? can i stop it?17:51
sub[t]rnlfrom cli17:51
xsarr,,17:51
sub[t]rnlsimion314: ps ax|grep ktorrent17:52
sub[t]rnlthat will look for the default kde torrent client17:52
TheGentlemansub[t]rnl, why scanning an ethernet port when it is not connected? i'm talking about wireless17:52
sub[t]rnlTheGentleman: whats "iwlist ath0 scanning" tell you17:52
sub[t]rnlsorry17:53
sub[t]rnlwhatever your wireless interface is17:53
usernanyone ever experienced application window, mouse click focusing issuses in kubu?17:53
TheGentlemansub[t]rnl, it lists 7 networks17:53
usernI regulary have to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to reload KDE17:53
sub[t]rnlgood, then its picking up the networks17:54
TheGentlemanincluding the one i want to connect17:54
sub[t]rnlyou can connect to the essids17:54
TheGentlemanyes, i told you the card works, problem is how to see the networks and connect without configuring everything each time17:55
TheGentlemanI don't want to type a lenghty HEX password each time!!!!17:56
heinkel_111anyone with a good experience of getting video streams to work in kubuntu? Please read this topic with problem description: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?board=27.017:58
heinkel_111I need the stream to work in like 30 minutes, need help!17:59
sub[t]rnlTheGentleman: right click on the knetworkmanager and go to options, is wireless enabled?18:00
substancevyo18:01
substancevis this a support channel?18:01
matttisWhy does kubuntu only sometimes automount my external hd (I switch the hd on after booting) ?18:01
TheGentlemansub[t]rnl, I think so, as the option is in gray while the option unable it is in black18:01
matttissubstancev: sometimes18:01
tekteensubstancev: yes18:01
substancevok apparently soo... i just installed kubuntu on my laptop HP Pavilion ... and it doesn't go into the gui18:01
substancevbut ubuntu (gnome flavor) does18:01
substancevi used the alternate installation disk.18:02
substancevim using bitchx to chat right now since the interface is not available18:02
tekteenwhen it stars booting click Alt+F1 and then Alt+F818:03
tekstacy'lo again18:03
substancevoh shit...18:03
pagsubstancev, try the command 'startx' and see, if there're any errors...18:03
tekteensubstancev forgot to use your name18:03
tekteensubstancev: when it stars booting click Alt+F1 and then Alt+F818:04
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substancevf8 right now shows checking battery [ok] running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [ok] and thats it.. normally there is alot more18:04
substancevthis is the second time i install kubuntu?!18:04
tekteenI have the same problem18:04
tekstacywhen I try to run adept, I get the error that another process is using the database. But I don't know what. When I let it try to resolve the problem, adept crashes18:04
sparr_can i tell apt-get to use globs instead of regex for package name matching?18:05
pagsubstancev, ubuntu uses 'quiet' boot option in kerlen - removing that should help..18:05
TheGentlemansub[t]rnl, I wonder if anything is missing in my installation.....18:05
pag!aptfix | tekstacy18:05
tekteenwhen it starts to boot I click Alt+F1 and then Alt+F818:05
ubotutekstacy: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »18:05
substancevpag: so what should i do18:05
tekstacypag, thanks18:05
pagsubstancev, well.. are you more or less confortable with using text interface (just to solve this problem..)18:06
substancevpag: im not new at all to linux... i been using ubuntu for a couple years... never encountered this.18:06
substancevomg... im so hung over... :(18:06
pagsubstancev, ok. :)  then open a new tty (alt+f2 should do) and type 'startx' - it should give you errors18:07
tekteensubstancev: you need to edit the menu.lst file (I think)18:07
tekteenif there is no problem with startx18:07
substancevthere are errors18:07
substancevpag: no screens found... let me get more detail hold one18:08
Sam1337Is it possible to change a dm-crypt password?18:08
virnikhi there18:08
virnikgotta problem with alternate install18:08
virnikfriend of mine gotta old crap18:08
tekteensubstancev: have you tried when it stars booting clicking Alt+F1 and then Alt+F818:08
virnikinstall fails randomily18:08
substancevpag: thats it no screens are found and an error code and message related to the screens not being found18:08
virnikmedia is ok18:08
virnikram is ok18:09
virnikdvdrw is ok18:09
substancevtekteen: well i am looking at the f8 screen now... f1 is this console... and f8 is the boot script console which i can see right now...18:09
matttisI don't understand it. Why does kubuntu only sometimes automount my external hd (I switch the hd on after booting) ? Now I had to switch it off/on 3 times and now the hd is mounted. Does that look like a software or hardware problem ?18:09
substancevtekteen: i think it stalled on the boot process18:09
substancevpag: brb18:09
tekteensubstancev: ok18:10
substancevback...18:10
tekstacypag, yay! it worked18:10
pagtekstacy, glad to hear that :)18:10
substancevpag: should i purge X?18:10
tekteensubstancev: I find when I boot I get a blank screen until I do that. Then it gives me info about boot. Then brings me to the X display18:10
substancevpag: and reinstall it18:10
pagsubstancev, just reconfigure it..18:11
substancevahhhhh18:11
substancevi know what it is now... the resolutions18:11
pagsubstancev, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg18:11
substancevi remember during the installation i must have set a resolution too high18:11
loguser1how can  i chang the logo or screen which appears at the start of kubuntu asking username and pasword k 7.10?18:12
pagloguser1, install kdmtheme package18:12
tekstacyIf I partiton a hdd (to make it dual boot), can I make it one partition again later?18:13
pagtekstacy, yes you can, but it might require the formating of the whole HD18:14
loguser1pag:  that will do all?18:14
zorg_the_falseq. i need the 'mkmf' tool. any idea in which package it is ?18:14
pagloguser1, that'll add a kcontrol / systemsettings module, in which you can change the KDM-theme18:15
tekstacydamn18:15
loguser1pag:  i wana chang the "kubuntu" logo too18:15
pagloguser1, you mean the one with progressbar at the very beginning?18:15
simion314sub[t]rnl:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45722/ :the output from  ps ax|grep ktorrent, i do not enderstend what this mean18:16
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loguser1pag: no. the one with user name password18:17
loguser1pag:  i have installed it. how to use it now?18:17
pagloguser1, alt+f2 -> kcontrol -> system admin -> KDM Theme Manager18:18
Flare183does anybody know when the kde4 is coming out?18:18
simion314how can i see all the process running in kubuntu?18:18
substancevpag: got it...i needed libc6-dev libraries and latest nvidia drivers...18:19
Flare183simion314:> press control escape18:19
tekteensimion: open a konsole and type top18:19
pagFlare183, when it's ready.18:19
emilsedghFlare183: December-January18:19
substancevi got X to start... going to reboot to see if it stream-lines in.18:19
substancevpag: thanks for the support18:19
TheGentlemansub[t]rnl, anything else?18:19
pagsubstancev, np. I'm glad you have it working :)18:19
loguser1pag:  where to get more themes?18:19
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pagloguser1, www.kde-look.org18:19
tekstacywhere do I find what loads on startup?18:19
Flare183ok thanks18:20
tekteentekstacy: there are a few places18:20
loguser1thx18:20
tekteentekstacy: startup for kde?18:20
tekteenthe system?18:20
tekstacyyes, mostly18:20
tekteenwhich one18:20
tekstacykde18:20
tekteenok18:20
tekteenKde holds it in two places18:21
tekteenone is session the other is autostart18:21
substancevpag: went straight to console18:21
pagtekstacy, by default, KDE starts only the apps you had opened when you closed KDE.18:21
tekteenyou can modify the sessions in the kcontrol panel under the advanced tab18:21
substancevpag: how do i check what init im starting at?18:22
tekteen218:22
simion314Flare183: thx, i kiled the ktorrent but how can i stop it to try to continue the download next time i boot?18:22
pagsubstancev, strange.. but does it start x when you tell it to?18:22
tekteensubstancev: the answer is 218:22
tekstacyApperently, a few things I ran, like kbluetooth, now think I want them everytime I start18:22
tekteenor is it 42?18:22
substancevpag: yes.. so im guessing its not set at the right init..18:22
tekteen:-)18:23
substancevtekteen: 2 is multiuser gui?18:23
tekteenyes18:23
substancevtekteen: whats the console init.?18:23
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substancevman im hungover18:23
substancevbig time18:23
substancevand i have numerous hickies on my neck and 200 dollars in the whole... no idea what happened18:23
tekteensubstancev: there is none however 1 is singleuser mode18:23
tekteenI will look up how to change it18:24
tekstacytekteen, other then session manager, where does kde keep it18:24
poison--!virtualbox18:24
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox18:24
substancevpag: any ideas?18:24
pagsubstancev, xserver should be at following runlevels: 2, 3, 4 and 5  (use sysv-rc-conf to check that)18:24
tekteentekstacy: in .kde/Autostart/18:25
tekstacyAhh, cool, thanks18:25
substancevpag: god i love linux.18:25
substancevpag: win32 enviornments are no fun to trouble shoot.18:25
pagsubstancev, also, reconfuguring kdm might do the job...18:26
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substancevpag: how would i do that dpkg-reconfigure kdm?18:27
* tekstacy hugs tekteen18:27
tekstacyYay, I fixed it. thank you18:27
tekteenlol18:27
tekteennp18:27
pagsubstancev, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm18:28
substancevpag: i ran that and nothing happened18:28
substancevpag: no message nothing18:28
pagsubstancev, that probably means, it all went well.. :)18:28
knightsI was trying to get my nvidia TV-out working using 'Screens and Graphics' tool. It said I needed to log back in so I did. My desktop is now at 640x480 and neither the 'Screens and Graphics' tool or the resolution changer will run, probably because of the desktop size. How do I get my old desktop back?18:29
maverick_hey, my files on the desktop like PDF files they don't show as icons there previews are shown instead of their icons...is there a way to show the icons instead of previews?!!18:29
* tekteen is bored and waiting for mp3 player to charge off the usb18:29
maverick_help18:29
substancevpag: /etc/init.d/kdm restart blinks the screen and gives me a blank screen with cursor18:29
tekteen!resolutionfix | knights18:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about resolutionfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:30
tekteen!resolution | knights18:30
ubotuknights: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto18:30
tekstacyknights, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg18:30
tekstacyer sudo dpkg.....18:30
* maverick_ 18:31
knightstekstacy: OK, same command if I'm using the binary NV driver?18:31
* maverick_ .18:31
pagsubstancev, oh.. I must admit I'm out of ideas then... sorry.18:31
pagmaverick_, please, be patient.18:31
tekstacyum, sure......18:31
maverick_!patience18:31
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines18:31
tekstacyI think it is18:32
TheGentlemananyone knows why I cannot see avaliable wifi networks with knetworkmanager, while "iwlist ath0 scanning" shows several networks available?18:33
LynoureTheGentleman: most common fix seems to be to comment out the wifi interface from /etc/network/interfaces18:33
pagmaverick_, kcontrol -> KDE comp. -> File Manager -> Previews -> set the "maximum file size" to zero18:34
TheGentlemangoing to have a look Lynoure .......18:34
LynoureTheGentleman: networkmanager has known throuble configuring interfaces that are already configured in that file. Try it out, cannot hurt as you can always uncomment the changes18:34
TheGentlemanok, tahnks Lynoure18:34
Tm_Tmaverick_: have you tried #kde ?18:35
maverick_pag: thanks a lot, it was so confusing for me18:36
maverick_Tm_T: should i?!18:36
maverick_Tm_T:   :D18:36
pagmaverick_, np :)18:36
Tm_Tmaverick_: if you don't get it working, then yes18:36
maverick_Tm_T: it's working thanks though18:37
Tm_Troger18:37
TheGentlemanLynoure, what exactly do I have to comment out in the interfaces file?18:37
TheGentlemanLynoure, I can't see any "wifi" line there.18:38
LynoureTheGentleman: If you pastebin the contents, I can show you, but pretty much anything except loopback is ok.18:38
LynoureTheGentleman: I cannot see anything about what you have in there, hard to say what you have :)18:38
TheGentlemanI can't pastebin: it's adifferent computer and it is obviously not connected....18:39
LynoureTheGentleman: Then, unless you can type it out, above was the only advice I could give. Anything except the lines for loopback18:40
TheGentlemanLynoure, if you have a few minutes, i could manually copy the content of the interfaces file to pastebin18:40
LynoureTheGentleman: see http://www.lynoure.org/blog/index.php?/archives/76-Solving-the-common-NetworkManager-problem.html for an example18:41
TheGentlemanok, thanks Lynoure18:41
TheGentlemanLynoure, you can have a look at http://pastebin.com/d2026b4f2 if you like18:45
LynoureTheGentleman: if you want to use knetworkmanager, try commenting out everything starting from line 718:46
TheGentlemani will try Lynoure .  By the way, are there alternatives available to knetworkmanager?18:47
LynoureTheGentleman: Not using it is a popular alternative. :)  It all depends on what you are comfortable with.18:48
Lynoureand what you need to connect to, too.  (Though it has been a year or so since I used anything except manual configuration or knetworkmanager)18:49
TheGentlemanLynoure, I'd be comfortable with anything wich works and lets me use my wifi connection on my laptop!18:49
spoolkkk18:49
ubuntusalut tout le monde18:49
ubuntu??18:50
LynoureTheGentleman: Then you seem to be an a right track already.18:50
ubuntuserver uk?18:50
amnesiacamnesiac is in the house ...running a bugy gutsy gibbon on the box ...but.it is nice ..THE GiBbON rules!18:51
TheGentlemanLynoure, I'm happy to let you know your suggestion worked fine and my laptop is now connected!  well, Thanks....19:02
substancevquit19:03
LynoureTheGentleman: That's good to hear. :)19:03
TheGentlemanI guess this malfunction with knetworkmanager is well known and already reported as a serious bug19:04
LynoureTheGentleman: It has been around since Dapper, and I made a lot of noise about it then... So I suppose it would have gotten changed if it was going to. It's not necessarily a bug, sometimes you want networkmanager to keep its paws off some interfacees19:06
TheGentlemanLynoure, well, than it means the official documentation (at least in ubuntu) needs some addition to help people like me....  ;-)19:08
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TheGentlemani wouldn't have solved this issue without your help... and I already read dozens of man pages, wikis and so on19:09
Dresken__Kubuntu keeps loading my motherboard soundcard as the default one, is there a way to remove that completely from the system and make it only have my creative soundcard?19:10
LynoureTheGentleman: it was common enough problem a year ago that I felt I had to blog about it as I had spend a day or so getting it work for myself. Yes, it should be made somehow easier.19:11
knightsCan I get PAL svideo TV-output under gutsy just using the nvidia-settings or will I have to edit xorg.conf?19:11
Jack111hi19:13
Jack111i have got the problem that xorg sometimes runs at 60-90 %cpu load when i switch on opera...19:14
hambobohow do i upgrade feisty fawn to gutsy19:15
NickPrestaJack111, can you say for sure this only happens with Opera? Are you sure there are no other processes or applications that could be causing this cpu load?19:15
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NickPresta!upgrade | Jack11119:15
ubotuJack111: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes19:15
NickPrestagah, sorry, hambobo look at the link above ^19:15
heinkel_111Jack111: solution, use konqueror ;)19:15
Jack111NickPresta: yes, pretty much only, the thing is opera has some nice things, so just handy19:16
NickPrestaJack111, I understand. I (used to) like Opera too :)19:16
NickPrestaJack111, does this load jump only when you start Opera or even when you use it and such?19:17
Jack111apart, akregator sometimes crashes and doesnt really work for me..so whats a good reader for rss feeds?19:17
Jack111NickPresta: as long as i use it but sometimes it goes down after a while ...19:18
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shearn89anyone know which packages i need to install to get the base kde4 desktop?19:21
Radi01 Any idea as to why I lost sound notifications in pidgin/No one home in the pidgin channel.19:22
Jack111another question, which font do you guys think is most reader friendly?19:22
shearn89Jack111: sans.19:22
Jack111for screen reading?19:22
shearn89screen reading?19:22
DreskenAny idea how to set a sound card as the default sound card instead of the motherboards built in one>?19:22
shearn89Jack111: whats that?19:23
Jack111shearn89: is sans the name of the font or just the type of sans font?19:23
shearn89Jack111: sans is the name (i think). It is in Ubuntu, not sure whether its diff. in K.19:24
yhoelholaaaaaaaaaaaaaa19:24
yhoelque hay de nuevo19:24
shearn89!es19:24
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.19:24
yhoelcomo configuro el sonido en mi pc con linux19:25
MilitantPotat1Hey, how do I enable boot logging?19:31
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sledge/dev/md0              917G  336G  582G  37%19:39
sledgeI like. :D19:39
angel!de | me19:41
ubotume: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de19:41
DexterFupgrade erased the Windows GRUB entry, can I rescan or do I need to edit maunally?19:43
Flare183dexterf:> reinstall grub19:46
Flare183!grub19:46
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto19:46
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Tm_TDexterF: both goes19:46
acelerWell... when I start IRKick, lircd dies....19:52
ksalhi19:52
ksalyesterday i asked how can ichange label of a disk19:53
ksali changed it in dolphin and changes are notable only in dolphin19:53
ksalanywhere else (kickoff) it has old name still19:54
ksalso, somebody has any idea where i can change it?19:54
ksalit's not in fstab anyway19:54
biovoreksal: I think it has to do with the drive's volume label19:55
ksalhmm, so how can i change it?19:55
ksali hope you understand that by label i meant name of a disk i.e. Kubuntu19:56
biovoreIksal:  think it has something to do with vol_id   (sudo vol_id </dev/hda1 or /dev/sda1>19:59
biovorewill print out the volume ID info for the device..19:59
biovorevolname will print the info for iso9660 filesystems19:59
MilitantPotatoCan someone tell me how to enable boot logging?20:00
DreskenBleh, now Kubuntu won't detect my sound card at all, anyone has any idea on how to fix this?20:01
jpatrick!sound20:02
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP320:02
MilitantPotatoI've already tried setting /etc/default/bootlogd to yes20:02
hambobois this right http://pastebin.com/d7027eb8020:04
jpatrickhambobo: in theory, yes, practise; no20:05
MilitantPotatohambobo: way different from what I have20:06
MilitantPotatohttp://pastebin.com/d4714f4be20:06
MilitantPotatothats mine for XP20:07
MilitantPotatoDon't recommend copying mine though20:07
MilitantPotatowait I'm seeing things20:08
ciaconhi folks - can someone help me?? I did the following from the Terminal: "ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" --> "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted"20:08
kinderenhoi20:08
ciaconhow does that happen?20:08
kinderenhow's live20:08
MilitantPotatolack of sudo?20:08
biovoreNetwork interface isn't active20:09
ciaconMilitantPotato: same result for sodu20:09
heinkel_111!pastebin > heinkel_11120:09
MilitantPotatois your net card enabled?20:09
heinkel_111!pastebin20:09
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:09
ciaconeth0 and ppp0 up20:09
biovoresudo mii_tool20:09
biovoreshould tell you if you have a link or not.20:09
grecosalve !20:10
ciaconbiovore: "link ok"20:10
ciaconbiovore: "eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok"20:11
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ciaconbiovore: any other hints??20:12
atlfalcons866is kde and gnome the same speed20:12
biovoreciacon: not of the top of my head.. I have seen this problem before.. But I remember what it was..  Was something stupid..20:13
hectorberdeclan like kyle's best friend..20:13
MilitantPotato-***********************************`--*******20:13
ciaconbiovore: I'm transcoding a vid @ the moment, but I'll try the banal reboot now in a few minutes;-)20:14
ksalbiovore: it shows, that partition doesn't have any label20:15
egulcinhi20:15
egulcinI have sound problem20:15
egulcincan you help me20:16
egulcinI am turkish20:16
hectorberI think gnome is a little faster but kde is much more interesting20:16
ksalbiovore: i'll chek man of vol_id for some info of changing labels20:16
ksalegulcin: what's the matter?20:16
ksalhectorber: and more powerfull :)20:16
Exilant!tr20:17
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.20:17
ksalxD20:18
ciaconbiovore: I did "sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter stop" - that killed the problem20:18
biovorehaha.. firewall your self.. haha20:18
ksalbiovore: hmm it seems that vol_id can only print info about drive20:19
biovoreksal: depends on the filesystem.. for ext2/3 you can use tunefs to set it..20:19
Concernedhi folks....Im trying to get wireless networking to work! My card is ralink based20:20
ksalo, thanks20:20
Concernedany ideas?20:20
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ionussomeone please help me with install a theme in kubuntu20:29
NickPresta!themes | ionus20:31
ubotuionus: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy20:31
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rodrigoola20:51
ahmadi have toshiba laptop with Realtek High Definition Audio suond card but there is no suond20:52
ahmadhelllllllllllllllllllp20:54
atlfalcons866!compiz20:56
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion20:56
ignoramushello all... need help converting video files...  I am making screencasts with Krecordmydesktop.  They get saved as .ogg files.  When i convert them to .avi to edit, they look terrible.  any ideas?21:00
ignoramusbtw, i am using mencoder to convert the files21:00
ahmad i have toshiba laptop with Realtek High Definition Audio suond card but there is no suond21:02
Radi01 I have Ubuntu,it Rocks/Just installed Kbuntu,it Rocks 2wice.21:02
Exilantignoramus: probably you need a higher bitrate, it's an art i don't understand to get it done well, though21:03
ignoramusahmad: have you enabled all sound devices in KMixer?21:03
ignoramusexilant: that's what im thinking, too.  Unfortunately, krecordmydesktop does not offer any qualities or alternative filetypes :(21:04
ignoramusahmad: is your sound card being recognized? " sudo asoundconf list "21:05
Exilantignoramus: can't you view the oggfiles directly?21:07
ignoramusexilant: yeah - they play fine in vlc, kaffeine, etc.  But when i need to edit the screencasts, editors like kino or cinelerra can't read .ogg files21:08
ignoramushence the need for conversion :/21:08
Exilantyeah21:09
Exilantdunno though, only converted my science videos so far, where quality was not an issue21:09
ignoramusexilant: did you use a movie editor?21:10
Exilantno, combined frames created by simulation programs21:10
Exilantand then compressed them21:11
ignoramusexilant: sounds like a lot work21:11
Exilantcreating the video was quite easy that way, mencoder has some plugin to read multiple numbered jpg/png/bmp files21:12
ignoramusexilant: mencoder is pretty good at converting, i will admit... did you know there's a GUI frontend for it?  Just found it today... much easier than looking up all the commands!21:13
ignoramusvzduch: hi there!  do you know anything about converting video files?  You're pretty good with other stuff...21:15
vzduchdepends on what you're up to21:15
ignoramuswell...21:15
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ahmadno just intel card written21:16
ignoramusi'm converting .ogg files to something a video editor can read (like .avi or DV), but the quality is so poor once they've been converted.  any ideas?21:16
ignoramusvzduch: the original .ogg file quality is very clear21:16
vzduchI guess you should use lossless MPEG4 if your editor can handle that21:17
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ignoramusvzduch: i'm using Kino, and it only handles .smil, rawDV, and .avi... :/21:18
rayluwhere is the screen resolution setting for the users stored?21:18
vzduch.avi is a container format for various codecs..21:18
raylualternatively, why does switching screen resolutions cause my monitor to give "no valid input?"21:18
ignoramusraylu: /etc/X11/xorg.conf21:18
rayluignoramus, no, that's the specification for screen resolution; i mean the settings for the user21:18
raylui have 1280x1024 configured, but I want a user to login with 1024x76821:18
ignoramusraylu: oh. nm21:18
Dr_willisUsers can have their own.. but not sure where those are saved. :)21:19
raylu=\21:19
Dr_willisI just set the login screen to the lcd  max. and  leave it at that.21:19
rayluthen does anyone know why setting it to 1280x1024 for the first time works but changing resolutions causes my monitor to say "No valid input?"21:19
ignoramusvzduch: i know... but what can i do to get the video editor to convert my files without losing so much quality?  or am i just stuck?21:19
rayluignoramus, have you tried MediaCoder? or does that not run on linux?21:20
Radi01Will DeveDe work on kbuntu?21:20
ignoramusraylu: haven't tried it ... I install Mencoder, per the advice of everyone on ubuntuforums21:20
Dr_willisgoing from one lossy for format to another. will always degrade things a bit i hear.21:21
_julioque pasa psa psa21:21
ignoramusradi01: http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/02/05/150718.php21:21
Dr_willisof course i mess with recorded tv shows mainly.. so the loss isent that big a loss.21:21
Radi01k,thanks21:21
Dr_willisI tend to use that avidumix or whatever its called.21:21
_juliomy hard disk is dead noooooooooooooooo21:21
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ignoramusdr_willis: i tried that program, but it seems a bit complicated.  I just need to truncate and edit parts out of videos... nothing special. Its just that quality *really* suffers when converting from .ogg to a DV file21:22
vzduchDr_willis: avidemux21:23
_kjuliodonde puede comprar un  HD para laptop barato y bueno21:23
ignoramusavidemux is what was recommended to me before, but Kino is really good for beginners at video editing21:23
ignoramus_kjulio: www.newegg.com21:24
_kjulioal gun lugar en san isidro o sandiego21:24
ignoramus_kjulio: no importante donde21:24
Dr_willisi dont really edit.. I just convert. :)21:24
_kjuliopara mi si vivo en tijuana21:25
Radi01avidumix?..for dvd's?21:25
_kjulioaqui en tijuana es demasiado caro21:25
Radi01oh k..ignore me.21:25
ignoramusdr_willis: i never did either, but i just installed krecordmydesktop, and its really cool for creating screencasts.  Just the part about editing them sucks =/21:25
Dr_willisdont make mistakes. :)21:26
rayluI get the feeling my xorg.conf is borked21:26
Dr_willisraylu,  i was thinking there was a setting that had to be in xorg.conf in order for the user to change the res.21:26
Dr_willissomthing to do with xrand?21:27
rayluxrandr - primitive command line interface to RandR extension21:28
_kjulioi need going the defcon conference 2008 in the vegas21:28
Radi01vzduch: does it work better than devede?21:28
ignoramus_kjulio: ?http://mx.yahoo.com/?21:29
ignoramus_kjulio: eres en tijuana ahora?21:29
_kjuliosi21:29
_kjulioyes21:29
vzduchRadi01: no idea.. I just happen to know the name21:29
vzduch!es | ignoramus, _kjulio21:29
ubotuignoramus, _kjulio: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.21:29
Radi01K,thanks/Im on the site but I dont want to break my sys.21:30
vzduchRadi01: should be available as a package21:30
ignoramus_kjulio: apesadumbrado no sé. =(21:30
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miknichello people21:30
surgyhi21:30
Radi01I see it says it will work on all sys but dont know about kbuntu being it is finiky to other pgms.21:31
miknicwhat are you doing  here21:31
ignoramusvzduch: sorry, just trying to help21:31
surgyanyone wanna join me for an idepth discussion on the topic of starcraft, join #kubuntu-offtopic :21:31
vzduchignoramus: no problem w/ that, but in English, please, or in query or in #kubuntu-es :)21:31
ignoramusvzduch: gotcha ..... np21:31
miknicjjaa ok21:31
ririis talking about hardy here ?21:32
raylualso worth noting: xfce ran fine21:32
ardchoillexfce is nice21:32
raylui'm guessing it doesn't try to reconfigure the display21:33
vzduchit is.. but *buntu used to have some bugs w/ XFce quite a while ago21:33
vzduchback in Hoary when there was no Xubuntu yet, e.g., there was something that caused Gnome to interfere w/ XFce21:33
rayluDr_willis, RANDR is listed by xdpyinfo21:33
ArelisHow do i set my default browser?21:34
ardchoilleArelis: System Settings > Default Applications21:35
Arelisardchoille: I don't have system settings at the moment.. how do i install it?21:35
ardchoilleArelis: You on Gutsy?21:36
rayluok...I think I know what the problem is... but I need to know how to disable one of my displays21:36
Arelisardchoille: Yes.21:36
raylumy setup is actually a laptop connected by VGA to a monitor; the laptop's screen is broken and21:36
rayluxrandr --output LVDS --off works, but only for that session21:36
sstchurhow com alt + f2 doesn't seem to work in KDE4?  is that by design, or because the software is still beta?21:36
raylusstchur, actually, I believe alt+f2 is a *ubuntu thing21:37
ardchoilleArelis: Then you should have System Settings, alt+f2, type in systemsettings21:37
Arelisardchoille: naw, i didn't install kubuntu-desktop, but kde-core. So i installed just the core of KDE21:37
ardchoilleraylu: no, alt+f2 is not a kubuntu thing21:37
rayluoh :(21:37
ardchoilleArelis: alt+f2, type in kcontrol, go to KDE Components > Default Applications21:38
sstchurraylu: oh, that would answer it then21:38
rayluer...it doesn't :P21:38
Arelisardchoille: the Default applications thing is not there21:38
ardchoillesstchur: install an rc1 desktop should tell you that there will be certain problems ;)21:38
Radi01They have it here http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=1840 Thanks vzduch.21:38
ward_Hi guys, Just installed Kubuntu 7.04 on my hard disc21:39
vzduchward_: why not 7.10?21:39
ward_Now I need to update with  Adept?21:39
rayluward_, yes21:40
ward_Because this was hte version I had on my bureau21:40
ward_'desk'21:40
ardchoilleArelis: Then I think you're out of luck since you didn't install kubuntu-desktop21:40
ward_Is it good as graphic designer to install my Adobe CS3 design premium on Kubuntu?21:40
ward_Or is it better to use windows?21:40
ardchoilleward_: It's never beter to use Windows, IMHO21:41
ward_So you should advice me Kubuntu :) ?21:41
simion314stdin: hi, are you there?21:41
ardchoilleward_: What exactly do you design? I use gimp for all graphics design.21:42
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ward_Photoshop / Illustrator21:43
bjwebbhihi21:44
bjwebbhow do i get it to foreably fix apt, removing packages?21:45
raylubjwebb, ..huh?21:46
bjwebblike apt-get -f install21:46
rayluDoes anyone know how to get the equivalent of "xrandr --output LVDS --off" into my xorg.conf?21:46
raylubjwebb, why won't it remove something?21:46
bjwebbraylu: because its broke21:47
bjwebbi want to tell it to do whatever it takes to fix it21:47
bjwebbincluding removing packages21:47
ward_Question I have A disc :c & a disc :d  in my pc. Can I set up a file server that accesses the C disc and maybe other external hard drives?21:47
rayluright..."because it's broke" is really not helping; paste the error21:47
Dr_willisward_,   you can mount and access windows drives from linux.. so yes.21:47
rayluward_, with other linux machines or windows?21:47
ward_I mean can I acces from kubuntu my windows driv21:48
ward_e21:48
* ward_ test21:48
Dr_willisward_,  linux can read/write to windows filesystems so yes...21:48
bjwebbhttp://pastebin.ca/79622921:48
bjwebbraylu: sorry, i jsut thought it was a very genearl question that could be answered easily21:49
rayluward_, yes, google "ifs ext"21:49
raylubjwebb, er...do you want kde4 installed or uninstalled?21:50
bjwebbeither21:50
bjwebbi don't care21:50
bjwebbi installed it a while ago21:50
rayluthen just uninstall it?21:50
bjwebband all ive done recently is done apt-get update21:50
bjwebbraylu: but will it whilst apt is broke?21:50
rayluapt isn't broken, it's just that21:51
raylutwo of the packages are modifying the same ifle21:51
raylu*file21:51
ward_And can I also acces21:51
ward_External hard drives?21:51
bjwebbno but apt won't let me do much21:51
ward_And wich prorgam do I need to use to for example write files from my network to this linux pc on the hdd21:53
bjwebbnvm i think ive fixed it21:53
rayluward_, from windows machines or linux machines?21:54
rayluand yes, you can access external HDs; these are USB, i assume?21:55
ward_yes21:55
ward_USB21:55
ward_oh damn21:58
ward_I have a problem :(21:58
ward_There was an error isntalling MP3 support. You need to install the package "libxine1-fmpeg" manually.21:58
ardchoilleward_: sudo apt-get install libxine1-fmpeg21:59
ward_how to do?22:00
ward_sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg22:00
ward_It's my first time.22:00
ardchoilleward_: open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install libxine1-fmpeg22:00
ardchoilleThat will install libxine1-fmpeg for you22:00
Dr_willistime to get out some Bash/Linux tutorials. :)22:00
ardchoille!bash22:01
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal22:01
Dr_willisi forget which ones are all in the bots library. ;P22:01
hydrogenor22:01
hydrogenuse adept22:01
ardchoilleward_: Actually, I believe it's libxine1-ffmpeg22:01
hydrogenas much as we hate to do so22:01
Dr_willisadept is for wimps! :P22:01
ward_ubotu :p thanks22:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about p thanks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:01
Dr_willis!bot22:01
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots22:01
hydrogenyep.. because everyone that uses a gui is a wimp22:02
hydrogenthe fact that they have a monitor that displays more than shades or gray with a resolution of higher than 80x24 has nothing to do with it22:02
ardchoilleI find adept extremely sluggish, I like synaptic22:02
Dr_willisardchoille,  you and most people.. Not sure why its like.. click.. wait 10 sec... click next package... and so on..22:02
ardchoilleYeah22:03
ward_sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg22:03
Dr_willisreal men use Serial terminals plugged into their.. noses. :P22:03
ward_Esudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg22:03
ward_damn22:03
ward_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc22:03
Dr_willisclose any other programs that are trying to install stuff. adept/ synaptic/ update/ugrader tools.22:04
ardchoilleI remember seeing ksynaptic a while back.. not sure why it's not in kubuntu.22:04
AshexAnyone compiled moviefly?22:05
AshexThe .deb package doesn't work for me. And when I tried compiling I got this error when running ./configure, http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/11/22/windows-software-linux-software/22:05
AshexEr22:05
Ashex>.<22:05
Ashexconfigure: error: failed to find required module stringtemplate22:06
ward_Maybe he shows the error because22:06
ward_Adept  is updating?22:06
ardchoilleward_: Right. You can't have more than one package manager front-end opened at a time22:06
ward_Then I have to wait.22:07
ward_"update finished" aha nice22:07
ardchoilleward_: Wait for adept to finish, then close it and you can apt-get22:07
ward_nice I installed my first program.22:07
ward_Thanks for help.22:07
ardchoilleward_: :)22:08
dsmith_kubuntu locksup after a period of say a few hours when I walk away from it, any thoughts on where to start to look for issues?22:08
ward_I would like to make a "file program". Is that possible?22:08
ardchoilledsmith_: Is it locking and requiring a password to unlock, or does it just freeze?22:08
Exilantdsmith_: probably some suspend to ram/disk stuff22:08
ward_so when I put this pc on I can send with my notebook files to a hard driver internal / external.22:08
ardchoilleward_: Please elaborate22:09
dsmith_in the past, I was using the sceen saver. I just now shut it off..22:09
AshexDoes kubuntu take longer then usual to shutdown with Gutsy for anyone else?22:09
AshexOr is it just me?22:09
dsmith_Exilant: I was thinking along those lines22:09
dsmith_this is a laptop22:09
ward_how you mean??22:10
ward_elaborate..22:10
ward_work out..22:10
ardchoilleward_: You can use the file manager for that, and you need to learn more about mounting file systems22:10
ardchoille!mount22:10
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter22:10
Dr_willisTime to start learning the FUNdaMENTALS22:10
ward_!thanks bot :p22:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thanks bot :p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:10
Dr_willis:)22:10
ardchoilleDr_willis: :)22:10
Radi01loo22:10
ward_You mean I have to make myself another partition?22:11
Dr_willisYou normally install linux to its own partition..22:11
ardchoilleward_: I recommend these two sites to start with:  http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php  and  http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/index/C/index.html22:11
BanisterKellyIs there a way to have Kubuntu shrink down its windows so I can use 800x600?22:11
ward_Is there also a dutch site of that faq?22:12
ardchoilleward_: I believe there is a Dutch ubuntu channel, but I don't remember the factoid trigger. Dr_willis ?22:12
thE_oNE I'm about to follow http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon to install my ati mobile radeon 9000 graphics card + the 3d desktop(Beryl) any other suggestions - better driver install guides?22:13
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Usually you can just resize windows and they'll remember that new size22:13
dsmith_ardchoille: it just freezes22:13
ardchoille!ati | thE_oNE22:13
thE_oNEok thanks did try there was dead :(22:13
BanisterKellyWell, some things I run in 800x600 are too big and go off the screen.  I am trying to get used to 1024x768.22:13
ubotuthE_oNE: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto22:13
thE_oNEThanks22:14
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: you can alt+right-click to resize a window22:14
BanisterKellyI use an nvidia g-force on this PC.  128MB AGP22:14
ward_lala22:14
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Have you installed the nvidia drivers?22:14
ward_Linux is nice22:15
BanisterKellyNot that I know of,  Fresh install.22:15
ardchoille!nvidia | BanisterKelly Have a look here:22:15
ubotuBanisterKelly Have a look here:: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto22:15
BanisterKellyLive CD 7.10 install.22:15
BanisterKellyI am there.22:15
ardchoilleOk22:15
BanisterKellyI clicked on it the first time it appeared.22:15
BanisterKellySweet.  No more having to go to text mode to install drivers.  lol22:17
thE_oNEanyone using Beryl on Kubu?22:17
ardchoille!beryl | thE_oNE22:17
ubotuthE_oNE: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz22:17
ardchoille!compiz22:17
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion22:17
thE_oNEah great thanks for the info22:17
BanisterKellyI am confused.22:18
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: ?22:18
thE_oNECompiz is sexy guys22:18
BanisterKellyIt says to go to advanced tab and there is no advanced tab under system settings.22:18
BanisterKellySays to go to restricted drivers.22:18
BanisterKellyDon't see it.22:18
BanisterKellyAs of Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) the recommended way to install the binary driver is to open System Settings KMenu → System Settings, go to the Advanced tab and click Restricted Drivers. Then click the Administrator Mode button and check the box marked Enable to install the driver. This should install the right package for your card and set it up for you.22:19
BanisterKellyI think they left something out.22:19
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Your system settings only has the General tab?22:19
BanisterKellyNo tabs at all.22:20
BanisterKellyJust a start menu like the Windows 9x does.22:20
BanisterKellyBut it looks all different, of course.22:20
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Which version of Kubuntu are you running? lsb_release | grep Release22:20
ward_Ok i'm going to sleep.22:20
BanisterKellyI installed from Kubuntu Live CD I downloaded this mornin.22:21
ward_Thanks for help guys.22:21
ward_CU22:21
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Yes, but which release? 7.10? 7.04? Earlier?22:21
ardchoilleward_: Good night22:21
ward_Thanks ciaaoo22:21
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Which nvidia card do you have?22:21
BanisterKellylsb_release22:22
BanisterKellyNo LSB modules are available.22:22
BanisterKellylsb_release22:22
BanisterKellyNo LSB modules are available.22:22
BanisterKellylsb_release22:22
BanisterKellyNo LSB modules are available.22:22
ardchoillelsb_release | grep Release22:22
andy_123hi there22:22
thE_oNENo LSB modules are available here also22:22
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Sorry, my fault:  lsb_release -a | grep Release22:23
BanisterKellybrb22:23
thE_oNEah22:23
BanisterKellyI need to get the Mrs.22:23
andy_123is it possible to use thinderbird with local email delivery?22:23
BanisterKellyI am running nvidia g-force fx520022:23
BanisterKellyBe right back.22:23
neville:/22:24
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: When you get back, I can walk you through installing the nvidia drivers for that card if you want.22:26
Kohlrabi"sudo envy -t"? *cough*22:27
ardchoilleEnvy is neither supported nor needed22:27
ardchoille!envy22:27
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »22:27
Kohlrabihm?22:27
KohlrabiOK, sorry :(22:27
BanisterKellylsb_release -a | grep Release22:29
BanisterKellyNo LSB modules are available.22:29
BanisterKellyRelease:        7.1022:29
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: That's Gutsy. No idea why your system settings has no Advanced tab :(22:30
BanisterKellyI know I went to do updates and it kept crashing on a fresh install.  Something about something.  Cannot remember.22:31
beefjerkyi am having problems with Knetworkmanager - it used to automatically connect to my wifi network.  Now it starts, and immediately goes to the white box with an X in it.  Upon right-clicking, and clicking on my22:31
BanisterKellyReady. to install drivers.22:32
beefjerkySSID, it will connect22:32
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Well, I can walk you through installing nvidia drivers via the command line, it's up to you22:32
BanisterKellyLets try it.22:32
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Ok, open a terminal22:32
* Dr_willis is back22:32
beefjerkyAlso, there's a new entry under "wireless networks": hpsetup - wtf is this?22:33
beefjerkyi just want it to auto-connect like it did before22:33
BanisterKellyReady22:33
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Let's make sure your restricted modules are installed: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` | grep Installed22:33
BanisterKellybash: pt-cache: command not found22:34
ardchoilleyou missed the "a"22:34
ardchoilleapt-cache, not pt-cache22:34
BanisterKellyInstalled: 2.6.22.4-14.1022:35
basculebeefjerky: is it in the trusted networks?22:35
beefjerkybascule: yes22:36
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Good, now we'll install the drivers: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx22:36
beefjerkybascule: there is a black X next to my SSID now, though =/22:36
basculeisn't that the connected indicator?22:37
beefjerkybascule: you know what - it probably is :)22:37
bascule:)22:37
basculeis the pass[hrase saved?22:37
beefjerkybascule: but why is there this "hpsetup" listed?22:37
beefjerkybascule: yup, once i click on my SSID, it will connect without having to enter the WPA22:38
BanisterKellyDone.22:38
BanisterKellyThank you for the help.22:38
basculethat sounds like a wi-fi printer hp, just a guess22:38
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Now we need to enable the drivers: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable22:38
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: We're not done yet :)22:38
beefjerkybascule: yeah, but I don't have one, and there's no other houses around me... this problem started when i took my laptop out and connected to other wireless networks22:39
BanisterKellyWarning: your X configuration has been succesfully changed.22:39
BanisterKellyIn order to take full advantage of the changes, X needs to22:39
BanisterKellybe restarted.22:39
basculebeefjerky: try removing them from the trusted networks, the other wi-fis that is22:39
beefjerkybascule: now i have this weird entry under "wireless networks" (doesn't really bother me), and it won't connect automatically22:39
beefjerkybascule: the other one isn't listed in trusted or untrusted ... weird, huh?22:40
BanisterKellyReady.22:40
BanisterKellyDo I reboot now?22:40
basculebeefjerky: yeah, every network i habe ever connected to is in my list22:40
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Ok, now open xorg.conf for editing: kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:40
BanisterKellyOpened22:41
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Ok, in kate, go to the section marked: Section "Device" and you'll see the current Driver (it's probably nv)22:42
beefjerkybascule: what should my "default gateway" be set to?22:42
basculethe wpa you are using22:42
basculewap rather22:42
beefjerkybascule: the ip assigned by the router?22:43
BanisterKellySection "Device"22:43
basculeno the router's IP22:43
BanisterKellyIdentifier"nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"22:43
BanisterKellyDriver"nvidia"22:43
BanisterKellyBusID"PCI:1:0:0"22:43
BanisterKellyEndSection22:43
beefjerkyas in 192.168.1.X?22:43
basculeyes22:43
beefjerkybascule: i should enter the same IP that i would enter in a URL bar to access my router config page?22:44
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: ok, you can restart xorg now, close/save all work and do: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart22:44
basculebeefjerky: exactly22:44
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TimSI am looking for a cheap 20gb MP3/Video player compatible with linux, any recomendations22:44
_michaelHello I'm looking to upgrade to Gutsy, but I certainly don't want the full contents of the kubuntu-desktop meta package. Is there a way to upgrade only upgrading packages I currently have installed.22:44
beefjerkybascule: do i need to enter anything in "domain name"?22:44
ardchoille_michael: Are you running Kubuntu now?22:45
Mr_Presidenthi everybody!22:45
basculebeefjerky: no not really unless you use multiple hosts ina domain that isn't in DNS records :)22:45
beefjerkybascule: nope... at least no problems there =)22:45
beefjerkybascule: ok, now that "hpsetup" has disappeared!  very strange22:46
Exilant_michael: there is, but dependencies just run amok if the metapackages aren't there22:46
bascule_michael: it will only update what is there in erms of downloads and installs, the packae lists reflect all updated versions though22:47
Shao`Anyone gotten a HP PSC 1110 to work with kooka and/or xsane here? It's recognized but kooka says it's not a sane scanner, and xsane just locks up when trying to select the scanner22:47
gustavohi! can someone give a iptables basic rules? (for security) like anti-dos attack, ping of death... something like it?22:47
_michaelardchoille: Yes 7.04 and I don't want everything in kubuntu-desktop to be installed again since I've removed many things from it. Should I just manually edit my sources.list and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?22:47
basculebeefjerky: well I dunno what it was so I am kind of glad to here that22:47
beefjerkybascule: me too - now is there a way i can test to see if it will auto-connect to my network?22:47
ardchoille_michael: I think even that will cause problems. you really need to have the meta-package installed to have a safer upgrade22:48
basculebeefjerky: sudo killall NetworkManager && sudo NetworkManager22:48
_michaelardchoille: Ok then is it better to upgrade off of the alternate cd or from the internet?22:51
ardchoille_michael: Seeing that the packages in the repos are more current than those of the cd, I feel it's better to upgrade from the internet so you don't double your work.22:52
ardchoille!upgrade | _michael22:52
ubotu_michael: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes22:52
_michaelardchoille: Ok then thank you22:52
ardchoilleyw22:52
Mr_Presidentdoes kubuntu installer have a built-in partitioning manager?22:55
Mr_Presidenti tjink i'm gonna need it to create my / partition...22:55
ardchoilleMr_President: Yes, the isntaller has a partitioner.22:55
ardchoilleUnless you have special needs, the installer will handle that for you22:55
Mr_Presidentoh, thanks for the help ;)22:56
ardchoilleyw22:56
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: How is everything with the new drivers?22:59
BanisterKellySO far no problems.23:05
BanisterKellyCan I use the 3D cube effect with the new drivers?23:05
ardchoilleYou should be able to23:07
BanisterKellyOkay.  I am looking it up now.23:07
BanisterKellyOne thing I like so far is LInux has quite a selection of interesting programs.23:07
BanisterKellyI am installing 48 under Edutainment.23:08
ardchoilleYeah, the major benefit of Linux, IMHO, is the freedom to choose that which works for me.23:08
BanisterKellyI am new to LInux, but so far I like what I see.23:09
BanisterKellyMy next challenge is to get a Windows 98 up and running.23:09
BanisterKellyVirtually.23:09
andy_123can anyone assist in setting up local email delivery with kmail23:09
andy_123somhow it does not retrieve the mail23:09
andy_123i have the mail in /var/spool/mail23:10
ardchoilleandy_123: I just did that yesterday23:10
RoeyBanisterKelly:  good luck wtih it! :)23:10
chxI have managed to pair kbluetooth with my mobile phone. Browsing to obex://[08:00:1f:87:ab:d3]/ still results in an error.23:10
chxCould not connect to host.23:10
ardchoilleandy_123: On Gutsy, /var/spool/mail is a smlink to /var/mail23:10
BanisterKellyThank you Roey23:11
daffa!dvd23:11
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs23:11
ardchoilleandy_123: kmail > Configure Kmail > Accounts > Add23:11
Shao`Could someone please help me out with this error message: kooka: failed to open scan channel: scan/sane/hpaio ? Google gives me nada...23:11
andy_123ardchoille: well, anyway kamil refuses to pick it up, also evolution and it looks like thunderbird does not have this option at all23:12
ionushow to install theme23:12
BanisterKellyNICE! Thank you ubotu23:12
ionustheme23:12
ionus!theme23:12
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy23:12
ardchoilleandy_123: What are you using for File location?23:12
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BanisterKellyardchoille, ever use WIn XP?23:12
ardchoille!thanks | BanisterKelly23:12
ubotuBanisterKelly: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)23:12
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: I haven't touched a Windows OS since 200123:13
BanisterKellyI didn't know you were a bot ubotu.23:13
BanisterKellyWOW!  Thats quite a while.23:13
BanisterKellyI couldn't last that long.23:13
ardchoilleWell, I don't feel the need for Windows while Linux exists :)23:13
BanisterKellylol23:13
MaTiAzIn a world without fences and walls, who needs Gates and Windows? ;)23:13
ardchoilleMaTiAz: Exactly23:14
BanisterKellyI cannot live without 98 and my most used software/games, and especially DOS mode.23:14
chxI can send data to the phone with the OBEX push client but I can't browse the phone :(23:14
MaTiAzBanisterKelly: you could try dosbox :P23:14
chxBanisterKelly: dosbox23:14
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: I'd be willing to bet you can find equivalent apps in Linux for your Windows apps23:14
chxardchoille: your bet is wrong, though. TortoiseCVS or SVN has no match.23:15
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Sadly, gaming is one area where Linux is still behind the times, but it's getting better.23:15
nevilleBut this is a world WITH gates and walls, unfortunately23:15
BanisterKellyI don't play alot of games and the ones I do are mostly card/board games.  Hoyle is one I have loads of.23:15
BanisterKellyI don't like those war/fight everything/sports games.23:16
andy_123ardchoille: file location is /var/mail/andy23:16
andy_123i also tried /var/spoll/mail/andy23:16
andy_123no go23:16
andy_123and there is already mail in there23:16
ardchoilleandy_123: You probably aren't able to get a lock due to not being able to write to /var/mail/andy. I use the "None" locking method and it works fine. Tried that?23:17
BanisterKellyLinux might not be big in the game department, but it does have one I will stay playing for hours.  Midssile Command.23:17
BanisterKellyMissile Command23:17
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Check out crack-attack and chromiumbsd23:17
BanisterKellyNever heard of those.23:18
ardchoilleAddictive Linux games, they're in the repos23:18
NickPrestaGNU+Linux has plenty of games. Whether or not they're of the same quality or have the same popularity as commercial games for Windows, that's another story :)23:18
andy_123adchoille: wow, this was it...just curious while it says 'use with care'??23:18
ardchoilleNickPresta: Good point23:18
ardchoilleandy_123: Not sure, but it has never caused a problem here.23:18
andy_123oki23:19
andy_123thanx, that was it then23:19
BanisterKellyAs long as its a game that is fun to play, it doesn't need to be smancy fancy.  lol23:19
Dr_willis$50 pc games are agetting a bit pricy23:19
ardchoilleandy_123: You could add yourself to the mail group and then be able to use Procmail lockfile, but something about that changes each time I log into kde forcing me to fix it again, too much trouble23:19
Dr_willisthenya got the tons-o-$20-a-pop-crud :)23:19
andy_123ardchoille: do you know a way to use local delivery with thunderbird?23:20
BanisterKellyBe back soon.23:20
Dr_willisI will confess that i can get most of the pop-cap games working with wine just fine. :P23:20
ardchoilleandy_123: I haven't used tb in years, don't know much about it :(23:20
BanisterKellyBejeweled 2 works with Wine?23:20
ardchoilleBanisterKelly: Ah, I forgot about wine, that's another thing you may want to set up23:21
Dr_willisBanisterKelly,  Hmm not sure agou that one..  Bookworm Deluxe does,  Peggle does,23:21
* BanisterKelly makes a note to install wine23:21
Dr_willisand many others.. some dont however.23:21
Dr_willisSome of those games i think are some sort of browser/flash thang.23:21
BanisterKellyBe back soon.  I will look up those games and the wine program.  Thank you.  Time to fondle Google.  lol23:22
scrubb2000!workspace23:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about workspace - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:22
juankalguna niña de peru?23:22
ardchoilleI'm not sure if he needs Spanish23:23
ardchoille!es23:23
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.23:23
BanisterKellyDo you know if there is a Linux version of Uno or Skip-bo?23:24
juankalguien puede ayudarme23:24
juank¡?23:24
NickPresta!es | juano__23:25
ubotujuano__: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.23:25
andy_123juank: aki se habla ingles23:25
NickPrestasorry, *kicks tab conpletion*23:26
astridHi. Im using amarok to play last.fm streams but the skip button is not working. Is there any amarok channel?23:26
NickPrestaastrid, #amarok23:26
astridhmm... obvious, thanks23:26
aro#kubuntu,#ubuntu,#xubuntu23:28
Dr_willis#mythbuntu23:29
Dr_willis:)23:29
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navetzhow do i get a compiz button to enable compiz23:32
lovreOT - does any1 know where i can get unreal tournament for linux?23:32
Dr_willisisent the linux binary included on the  comercial cd's ?23:33
Tm_Tshould be23:33
Dr_willisI rember one of the unreals working that way23:33
Dr_willisI aint kept up. :) I did pickup Crysis and BioShock last night23:33
Dr_willisGotta love  Day-after-thanksgiving sames23:33
Dr_willissales23:33
NickPrestalovre, which unreal? The up-and-coming release of UT2007? or ut2004?23:33
Tm_TDr_willis: umm, never heard of those23:34
NickPrestaTm_T, they're both great games that were recently released :)23:34
Tm_Tok so not interesting23:35
Dr_willisTm_T,  youve been under a rock again.. it seems. :)23:35
NickPrestaTm_T, well, the engine for Crsys, made my Crytek, is interesting, to say the least23:35
Tm_TDr_willis: I'm way too old for this23:35
Tm_TNickPresta: not to me23:35
Dr_willisTm_T,  Yep. same here.. I suck at the First person shooters Online. but these are both good single player games23:35
Dr_willisit seems every Nov. the game cmpanies all realase the 'best' games they been saving all year23:36
Crayahi, i have installed kubuntu on a vm in windows xp ... the x window system is working just fine and resizes to my monitor width and height ... but if i change to console view (ctrl+alt+f1) the screen is just about 1/4th the size of my screen ... any ideas how to fix this ?23:36
lovreNickPresta: any UT, i dont think 2k7 is available for linux yet, so i think 2k4, or even 99 will do23:36
Tm_TDr_willis: me, I tried Doom3 demo, 2 fps was best I got back then23:36
Dr_willisTm_T,  and it was so dark. you culdent tell anyway. :)(23:37
Dr_willis100+ FPS of solid darkness!23:37
Tm_TCraya: you have to tell prolly to tty:s to use higher res, how, I do not know23:37
Dr_willisi never did finish doom3.23:37
NickPrestalovre, http://www.linuxelectrons.com/features/reviews/playing-unreal-tournament-2004-linux23:37
Dr_williswell bbl. :)23:37
Crayathx Tm_T ... gonna man me through :-)23:37
scrubb2000What does "Workspace Down" mean on the menu that comes up when I right click on a window's title bar?23:38
ronnie_Hello, attempting to upgrade to Kubuntu 7.10, but the adept updater gives and error and stops at that point, giving "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." Is this any known bug ? Someone able to give me some help with it ?23:38
Tm_Tronnie_: ummm, hard to tell if it doesn't tell anything else23:39
lovreNickPresta: so you are saying there is installation for linux inside a DVD for windows game?23:39
lovreNickPresta: ok, thanks23:40
ronnie_if I try to disable the first two packages or something that it tries to update, think that would help ? is stil la problem, and weird thing is that this seems to be a download problem, I didn't see any problems during download, and if it were, everyone would have same problem23:40
ardchoille!sound23:41
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP323:41
scrubb2000Anybody?  Workspace down? What's it mean?23:42
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armandohola agien que hable español??23:42
NickPresta!es | armando23:42
ubotuarmando: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.23:42
ronnie_gonna try to cancel the updates of acpi, acpi-support and acpid23:43
Tm_Tscrubb2000: if you have for example 6 workspaces, and they are set to be in 3-in-a-row then 1 is above 4 etc23:43
ronnie_nope.23:43
scrubb2000tm_t, workspace = desktop?23:44
Tm_Tscrubb2000: yes23:44
TimSI have an .avi and I want to convert it and burn it to a DVD so that it is playable, how can I do this?23:44
Tm_T!info k9copy23:45
ubotuk9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1409 kB, installed size 2748 kB23:45
scrubb2000tm_t, but when I use the "workspace down" thing, the window vanishes from all of my workspaces.23:45
Tm_TTimS: see that23:45
TimSOkay23:45
Tm_Tscrubb2000: interesting23:45
scrubb2000is there a keyboard shortcut to cycle through workspaces?23:45
Tm_Tscrubb2000: here it is winkey-F1 etc23:46
scrubb2000tm_t, I'm running compiz.  Does that change it?23:47
Tm_Tscrubb2000: well yes really23:47
Tm_Tthat's huge difference23:47
scrubb2000I presume they're documented somewhere for compiz?23:47
Tm_Tno idea, ask in #compiz-fusion23:47
scrubb2000k23:48
Carutsuscuse me how do i find out if i have opengl enabled? I'm using an intel i810 graphic card23:48
biovoreglxinfo | grep direct23:49
nshhey, where's the beef23:49
nshcan i put my X windows into ascii mode?23:49
nshthat would be three shades of vanilla awesome23:49
ardchoilleWhen I play music at a high volume level, it plays for a few seconds then the sound quits. A reboot fixes this but there has to be another way. How do I restart the sound system without rebooting?23:49
Carutsubiovore: thank you very much!23:50
nshhello?23:53
NickPrestahi, nsh23:53
nshnobody answer my question and i cry a little23:53
nshbut luckly has tissue23:53
tungI'm using ATI. When I install the restricted driver, the res of kdm become bigger than usual.23:56
tungthe second thing is that when I play a game at fullscreen mode, the display is blank.23:59
ronnie_uh, is adept manager different from the commands used as apt-get ? when trying to upgrade to 7.10 by using adept manager, it fails, but when I used apt-get update and apt-get upgrade now, it works ... also gave something 'bout "packages kept back" ... anyone got an explanation to this ?23:59

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