[00:00] <abyssion> hey
[00:00] <WaltzingAlong> !cube | abyssion
[00:00] <ubotu> abyssion: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[00:01] <WaltzingAlong> !compiz > abyssion
[00:01] <abyssion> compiz ?
[00:02] <WaltzingAlong> abyssion: the cube is one of the effects possible through compiz-fusion. you would need to 1) get 3d accelerated drivers for your video card working, 2) get compiz-fusion working, and 3) configure the cube effect
[00:02] <joseph_> is there a compiz channel?
[00:02] <WaltzingAlong> joseph_: yes see ^^
[00:02] <joseph_> lol
[00:02] <WaltzingAlong> #compiz-fusion
[00:02] <joseph_> well ok i have a question then
[00:02] <alexbobp> I just got a usb headset.  I can get Audacity to use it with OSS.  How can I make ALSA use it?  I just need to change the device from /dev/dsp to /dev/dsp1
[00:03] <joseph_> i have my cube set up but i want a cool environment for the cube, the area outside the cube
[00:03] <joseph_> how can i do this?
[00:03] <WaltzingAlong> joseph_:  /join #compiz-fusion
[00:04]  * Dr_willis will be glad whenpeople get sick of that silly cube
[00:04] <alexbobp> but it so pretty!
[00:04] <Dr_willis> Of course NEXT will be the 'fish tank' cube
[00:04] <Dr_willis> check the compiz-fusion homapage for all your Cubby Needs!
[00:05] <WaltzingAlong> agreed: for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/
[00:05] <Dr_willis> Well Crysis is installed.. and first thign! bam  - it wants a windows update. :)  which will want a reboot...
[00:05] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: :)
[00:06] <alexbobp> I retract my question.  Turns out I just had to restart the sound server and the programs that were using it.
[00:06] <Dr_willis> ardchoille,  and  http://www.ea.com/crysis/home.jsp web site - wants my birthday since the site has 'mature content' - Yea right.
[00:06] <Dr_willis> I bet i am the only 103 yr old gamer on that site! :0
[00:07] <ardchoille> lol
[00:08] <Dr_willis> and of course the 'patch' i need.. requires i download some windows validation activex controll.. and go through 4 other popups..
[00:08] <Dr_willis> gesh
[00:08] <Dr_willis> Perhaps i will get to play the game some time Today...
[00:08] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: I like the "move with the mouse" navigation
[00:09] <WaltzingAlong> Dr_willis: apparently you paid for it already, not really important that you actually play it ...
[00:09] <Dr_willis> yep..
[00:09] <Dr_willis> Now i gotta reboot.
[00:09] <Dr_willis> Oh wait.. the 120gb hd i got is still formating...
[00:10] <Dr_willis> ben doing that since befor i logged in here.  so thats been what? an hr+ :)
[00:10] <WaltzingAlong> not a fast format? :(
[00:10] <Dr_willis> i wanted to be doubly sure it checked out. :)
[00:10] <WaltzingAlong> :D
[00:10] <JackWinter> hiya, where do i find a driver fo a pixma ip4200 printer? or is the ip4000 driver good ?
[00:10] <Dr_willis> the hd sort of died on me last night. So now its going to be a 'windows games drive'
[00:11] <Dr_willis> JackWinter,  check cups.org for that printer.
[00:11] <Dr_willis> I know that SOME canon pixma printers have no linux support at all.
[00:11] <Dr_willis> cups.org will tell you if the 4000 driver will work
[00:11] <JackWinter> thanks dr_willis!
[00:12] <Roey> hi
[00:12] <Roey> I try to load an .ogg in Amarok but get this message:  "Error Loading Media
[00:12] <Roey> There is no available decoder.
[00:12] <Roey> file:///arch/music/israeli/Kaveret/Kavaret Ba Park - Disc 1/Track 02.ogg"  What the heck is this about?
[00:14] <WaltzingAlong> Roey: in konsole run            file "/arch/music/israeli/Kaveret/Kavaret Ba Park - Disc 1/Track 02.ogg"      what are the results?
[00:15] <Roey> good point
[00:15] <Roey> one sec
[00:16] <Roey> /arch/music/israeli/Kaveret/Kavaret Ba Park - Disc 1/Track 02.ogg: Ogg data, Vorbis audio, stereo, 44100 Hz, ~256000 bps, created by: Xiphophorus libVorbis I (1.0 RC2)
[00:16] <Roey> seems kosher
[00:16] <Roey> (pardon the pun)
[00:16] <WaltzingAlong> :D
[00:17] <WaltzingAlong> ok having anything else that can play it? ogg123 for example in konsole
[00:17] <Roey> ok one sec.
[00:18] <WaltzingAlong> Roey: by the way i have not seen amarok fail with a ogg vorbis
[00:18] <WaltzingAlong> an*
[00:18] <Roey> hrm
[00:18] <Roey> it seems to show that it is processing the data but it's trying to use OSS
[00:18] <Roey> and I want it to use ALSA.
[00:20] <WaltzingAlong> Roey: so you can specify: amarok / settings / configure amarok / engine / xine engine - output plugin alsa
[00:20] <Roey> it's already set up that way.
[00:20] <Roey> with Amarok, it just throws up this error message.
[00:20] <Roey> when I try and play the file.
[00:21] <WaltzingAlong> Roey: perhaps check in #amarok  has it always done this, just started?
[00:22] <elliott> Kubuntu has locked up 4 times in the last week at seemingly random times... It happened a few minutes ago, and as i was here typing up a qiestion about it, it happened again. no error messages, no common task being done, etc. any idea what's going wrong?
[00:22] <elliott> dmesg
[00:22] <Roey> WaltzingAlong:  not sure.
[00:23] <Roey> Amarok is great but sometimes it can act like a pos
[00:23] <Arv3n> amarok is a pos
[00:23] <Roey> I checked in #amarok, only one person is active there
[00:23] <Arv3n> just kidding. ;)
[00:23] <Roey> Konqueror too
[00:23] <Roey> egven more so than amarok
[00:23] <WaltzingAlong> elliott: bad ram
[00:23] <Arv3n> band of brothers = win
[00:25] <elliott> WaltzingAlong It never happens in windows though.
[00:26] <WaltzingAlong> elliott: ok so just x is freezing or everything? could be buggy module (driver)
[00:27] <elliott> WaltzingAlong how can I tell?
[00:28] <WaltzingAlong> elliott: well let your computer run the memtest86 one night. otherwise, experiment with different scenarios to eliminate some possible culprits; like start without X or switch to the vesa or open source video drivers; overheating?
[00:29] <navets> what is the difference between kubuntu DVD and kubuntu live cd?
[00:33] <WaltzingAlong> dvd contains more packages / languages and can be run live (and then installed) or installed right away (without running live);
[00:34] <rattts> hey can linux get viruses
[00:34] <Roey> rattts:  different secirty model
[00:34] <WaltzingAlong> !viruses
[00:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about viruses - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:35] <excitatory> does anyone know if taskbar-compiz works on gutsy?  and if so, does anyone know of a repo or deb?
[00:35] <rattts> yesterday, my wireless gateway told me i might have a blaster virus...then today my ubuntu cRASHED and acting a little wierd
[00:35] <WaltzingAlong> rattts: technically possible
[00:35] <rattts> or can it just be compiz that may have caused all this?
[00:36] <WaltzingAlong> compiz!
[00:36] <alexbobp> Just out of curiosity, does anybody here have positive opinions on the replacement of konq with dolphin as the default file manager?
[00:36] <WaltzingAlong> it was not installed as standard in kubuntu gutsy for a reason ;)
[00:36] <WaltzingAlong> rattts: but i doubt you will ever see a virus/worm on your gnu/linux based kubuntu install
[00:37] <WaltzingAlong> alexbobp: could be that those of us here are more technical or have been using kde for a bit longer, since before dolphin
[00:37] <rattts> my comp crashed when i was installing(sudo apt-get install kde-desktop)  what should i do?
[00:38] <ardchoille> rattts: kde-desktop isn't in the repos, try: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:38] <WaltzingAlong> rattts: retry sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[00:38] <alexbobp> WaltzingAlong: I just have yet to see anything redeeming about dolphin.  Every difference between the two seems to make konqueror look better.
[00:38] <X314> hey.. just a question.. is gutsy suposed to totaly lock in "wrong password" or whatever it says mode if you type in your password wron once on the login screen?
[00:38] <rattts> ok hold on. im speaing of junk files here. there may be junk files on my comp since it was downloading the files when it crashed
[00:39] <rattts> can i do a purge on kubuntu-desktop
[00:39] <WaltzingAlong> alexbobp: i have yet to give dolphin a chance myself but i could see how it may be easier for new users of kubuntu
[00:39] <WaltzingAlong> rattts: sure   sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop
[00:39] <rattts> is aptitude same as sudo apt?
[00:39] <alexbobp> WaltzingAlong: do you know how to configure the "system menu" locations to open in konqueror?
[00:40] <WaltzingAlong> no
[00:40] <WaltzingAlong> alexbobp: check in #kde ?
[00:40] <Arv3n> i think dolphin just looks betetr. =P
[00:40] <WaltzingAlong> !aptitude | rattts
[00:40] <ardchoille> rattts: If you used apt-get to install: sudo apt-get remove --purge package
[00:40] <ubotu> rattts: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[00:40] <alexbobp> will do
[00:41] <excitatory> alexbobp: i actually really like dolphin, however i refuse to use it until it has 'tree view'.. i just cannot function without it...
[00:43] <ardchoille> I am told that dolphin has a tree view. But  I refuse to use it until it has a tabbed ui
[00:43] <Arv3n> am i the only one that hates konqueror? o_o
[00:43] <Arv3n> love kde, hate konqueror.
[00:43] <excitatory> ardchoille: yes, tabs are key as well.. that was the other thing i forgot
[00:44] <Arv3n> imo, file manager is fine.
[00:44] <excitatory> konq is a horrible web browser, but really works well as a file manager for my purposes.
[00:44] <Arv3n> but the file manager and browser really should be separate.
[00:44] <Arv3n> and hte browser version is horrible.
[00:44] <Arv3n> yeah.
[00:44] <Arv3n> kde 4 is sexy.
[00:44] <Arv3n> im gonna be one of the early adopters. =P
[00:44] <alexbobp> excitatory: My main gripes with dolphin are that it can't have tabs and that it doesn't have a disk space analyzer
[00:45] <WaltzingAlong> actually i find myself using konqueror more and more for web browsing (had already been using it as file manager - when i manage files through a gui)
[00:45] <alexbobp> Arv3n: why should a file manager and browser be separate, and what's wrong with konqueror's browser?
[00:45] <Arv3n> konqueror supports nothing
[00:45] <excitatory> WaltzingAlong: but it renders everything funny..
[00:45] <Arv3n> alexbobp, just imo, its what im used to.
[00:45] <alexbobp> konqueror isn't just file manager+browser, it does all sorts of things.  It has embedded plugins for everything from videos to text editing.
[00:46] <cuco> boy, kde4 stinks
[00:46] <Arv3n> im downloading the daily vm
[00:46] <cuco> i tested on real machine, and the new style is practically unusable.
[00:46] <ardchoille> alexbobp: konqueror is a shell for many things
[00:46] <cuco> i rolled back to plastik
[00:47] <Arv3n> this is exactly how i thought people would think kde4 would be like.
[00:47] <Arv3n> some people would like, some would hate.
[00:47] <Arv3n> kind of like oblivion and halo 2, lol.
[00:47] <cuco> no dud, it has a lot of problems,
[00:47] <ardchoille> Wait until it's finished, then it should be much better
[00:47] <Arv3n> thats an opinion.
[00:47] <ardchoille> cuco: it's an rc1, it's going to have problems
[00:47] <Arv3n> +, it can only get better from here.
[00:47] <cuco> for example there is no contrast in the theme, there is no clear definition of the current widget/window
[00:48] <Arv3n> exactly ard,
[00:48] <Arv3n> they arent even done doing plasma yet.
[00:48] <cuco> the sound theme is just anoying
[00:48] <Arv3n> 4.0 is more of an "ok herse what weve done, now its time to bug fix" type of thing
[00:48] <Arv3n> 4.0 = core technologies working
[00:48] <Arv3n> 4.1 = polish
[00:48] <WaltzingAlong> the lack of ability to have a contrast is far worse than a current theme not making use of proper contrast
[00:48] <cuco> dud, i know
[00:49] <Arv3n> it really is nice.
[00:49] <Arv3n> just give it time.
[00:49] <Arv3n> and if you dont like it, stick with kde 3.5
[00:49] <Arv3n> or gnome (LOL)
[00:49] <ardchoille> Well, dolphin and system settings are the first two things I'm going to rip out
[00:49] <WaltzingAlong> xfce
[00:49] <Arv3n> xfce is damn good.
[00:50] <ardchoille> xfce is quite nice
[00:50] <Arv3n> you'd be surprised.
[00:50] <Arv3n> it just feels like its missing something, though. not sure what.
[00:50] <WaltzingAlong> i typically switch xfce to kde and so on
[00:50] <Arv3n> well.
[00:50] <Arv3n> xfce = has built in transparency and composite manager, right?
[00:50] <WaltzingAlong> yes
[00:50] <cobalt> I heard that there was an app called ek something that could be added to Gutsy Gibson to send faxes could someone help me find it if there is such a thing ?
[00:50] <Arv3n> +1 for xfce, lol.
[00:51] <WaltzingAlong> kde3.5 does transparency too
[00:51] <Arv3n> its not really very developed though is it?
[00:51] <ardchoille> Arv3n: kde 3.5.7 has a built-in composite manager. I use it for drop shadows, transparency, effects, etc.
[00:51] <Arv3n> people say kde looks really nice, imo its really ugly.
[00:51] <Arv3n> unless you customize it a LOT.
[00:52] <Arv3n> but then when you customize it, damn its sexy.
[00:54] <excitatory> Arv3n: yea, i find i have to shrink the fonts, install a new iconset, change colors, shrink and move panels, change default konq views/sizes, and arrange a few other things just to feel at home.. but when i do, you're right, it's sexy.
[00:54] <ardchoille> excitatory: You can do all of that in seconds with a master bash script/
[00:54] <WaltzingAlong> curses to those developers who knew not enough to pick the settings you would like?
[00:55] <ardchoille> excitatory: When I do a new install, I run a master bash script that does all the app install and tweaking, while I have lunch. When I come back, the system is ready for me.
[00:55] <Arv3n> lol, nice.
[00:55] <excitatory> nice
[00:56] <ardchoille> This is why a fresh install only requires me to be in front of the computer for about 10 minutes.
[00:56] <excitatory> i sort of do that too.. i have a file that has about 6 or so nice one liners that i run.. nothing that configures any kde config files, but symlink and app install stuff.. (i'm still refining this said 'master script')
[00:57] <ardchoille> :)
[00:59] <ardchoille> Of course, you can lessen that time even more by putting $HOME on it's own partition
[00:59] <Arv3n> d/c.
[00:59] <Arv3n> or something. o_O
[01:00] <ardchoille> lol
[01:00] <cobalt> looking for a fax utility ?
[01:01] <ardchoille> !info kfax
[01:01] <ubotu> kfax: G3/G4 fax viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 146 kB, installed size 448 kB
[01:02] <ardchoille> WaltzingAlong: ty
[01:02] <cobalt> ubotu: does that allow the sending of faxes through a fax modem ?
[01:02] <cam_> anybody have a ralink card?
[01:03] <Arv3n> cobalt, ubotu = bot
[01:03] <ardchoille> !bot
[01:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:03] <cobalt> ardchoille: ty
[01:04] <ardchoille> yw
[01:11] <bobito_> Hey ya'll.  I'm on a new kubuntu box, and I'm having difficulty connecting to the internet (normally).  Normally, I have a winXP box set to bridge the network connection from its wireless to lan.  However, when I plug my kubuntu box into the XP box, it can't find any internet, and to be honest, I don't know enough linux to know where to go from there
[01:11] <bobito_> any help?
[01:12] <cam_> what are u trying to do?
[01:12] <bobito_> connect to the internet, on a gutsy machine
[01:12] <bobito_> connect my cat5 into an xp box, while that xp box routs internet from its wireless
[01:12] <bobito_> I have the xp box set up right, dunno how todo the linux part
[01:13] <cam_> the xp is gettin internet from the wireless?
[01:13] <bobito_> XP should be fine
[01:13] <cam_> and u wana route it through to the linux box?
[01:13] <bobito_> yup
[01:14] <bobito_> already took care of the XP box (i do believe), but when I plug in the linux box to the xp, nothing detects
[01:14] <bobito_> am i missing a step?
[01:14] <cam_> u did the internet connection sharing on XP?
[01:15] <bobito_> yup
[01:15] <bobito_> well, network bridge, but about the same thing
[01:17] <cam_> configure the interface manually on the linux box and put the IP address of the xp box where it says gateway
[01:17] <bobito_> how do I do that?
[01:17] <tekstacy> Is there a single package with all the popular restricted codecs? I'm about to do a fresh install.
[01:17] <WaltzingAlong> tekstacy: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:18] <tekstacy> Cool, thank you.
[01:18] <bobito_> could you at least point me to what to google for that?
[01:18] <cam_> do u know where the network manager is?
[01:18] <tekstacy> :)  I have turned another away from the dark side
[01:19] <bobito_> yea, in the systems menu
[01:19] <bobito_> KNetworkManager
[01:19] <cam_> yea
[01:19] <cam_> set up the interface there
[01:19] <bobito_> I would love to
[01:20] <bobito_> but everything is grayed out and all it says is no active device
[01:20] <syke> hi
[01:20] <cam_> hmm...
[01:20] <bobito_> I should mention
[01:20] <syke> my adept (and apt-get) are having trouble updating my kde4 beta 3 install to RC1
[01:20] <bobito_> the entire reason I have to do all this shizzle
[01:20] <bobito_> is because HP sold me a broken laptop, ie, the wireless card has been fried since day 1
[01:20] <cam_> type iwconfig in the terminal and see what it says
[01:20] <bobito_> and they won't fix it
[01:21] <bobito_> thats what I always assumed that was about
[01:21] <bobito_> iwconfig gives back
[01:21] <syke> I get 4 or 5 errors like this one:
[01:21] <tekstacy> WaltzingAlong, damn, I wish I knew that a while back....
[01:21] <syke> Unpacking kde-icons-oxygen (from .../kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb) ...
[01:21] <syke> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~gutsy1_all.deb (--unpack):
[01:21] <syke>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/apps/phonon-xine.png', which is also in package kde4base-data
[01:21] <WaltzingAlong> tekstacy: i think it was new with gutsy
[01:22] <bobito_> http://pastebin.com/m316d8772
[01:22] <tekstacy> oh.
[01:22] <syke> but I can't seem to remove the previous kde4 package
[01:22] <bobito_> cam_: http://pastebin.com/m316d8772
[01:23] <cam_> ur connecting to the XP box through the wierd interface right?
[01:23] <bobito_> not at the moment
[01:23] <bobito_> I would love to do that though
[01:23] <cam_> then how?
[01:23] <WaltzingAlong> !brokenkde4 | syke, pastebin the results of that command
[01:23] <ubotu> syke, pastebin the results of that command: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[01:23] <cam_> well ur trying?
[01:23] <bobito_> cam_:right now I'm right into a switch that goes into a modem
[01:24] <WaltzingAlong> syke: otherwise just add the failing packages to the list of those to be removed (the other kde-icons-oxygen ones, for example)
[01:24] <tekstacy> This kid wants me to set him up a system for web browsing and music recording and editing. Beyond Firefox and Audacity, anyone have a word of wisdom?
[01:24] <cam_> try ifconfig
[01:24] <Roey> tekstacy:  nice nick
[01:24] <syke> Waltzing: ok, thanks!
[01:24] <Roey> tekstacy:  not textacy ?
[01:25] <ardchoille> tekstacy: I would suggest to find out how he likes to handle the web browser and then find some cool extensions for firefox. Tba Mix Plus is a good extension.
[01:25] <ardchoille> *Tab
[01:25] <bobito_> cam_: http://pastebin.com/m79fd02e0
[01:25] <ardchoille> tekstacy: An id3 tag editor?
[01:25] <tekstacy> yeah, I use that too. He uses firefox on xp now, so that makes that a bit easier
[01:26] <ardchoille> yeah
[01:26] <tekstacy> Good idea
[01:26] <ardchoille> tekstacy: kid3 is good
[01:26] <tekstacy> cool, thanks
[01:26] <ardchoille> yw
[01:27] <cam_> hmm... i kno how to do it from kubuntu to XP not too sure about XP to kubuntu
[01:30] <mike-kubuntu> how can i get bin2iso for kubuntu 7.10?
[01:30] <ardchoille> !info bin2iso
[01:30] <ubotu> Package bin2iso does not exist in gutsy
[01:31] <WaltzingAlong> tekstacy: squid as a caching proxy
[01:32] <tekstacy> I havn't tried squid yet. I have heard of it. Does it really make a big difference
[01:32] <bobito> cam_: You still here?  Sorry for the pause, believe it or not, kubuntu just crashed on me
[01:33] <BluesKaj> !squid
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about squid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <tekstacy> shhh, don't say that
[01:33] <ardchoille> !info squid
[01:33] <ubotu> squid: Internet object cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.14-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 627 kB, installed size 1580 kB
[01:33] <darkness_> hi
[01:33] <ardchoille> hi darkness_
[01:33] <mike-kubuntu> anyone know where i can find the source for bin2iso?
[01:33] <ardchoille> Hello darkness_ my old friend..
[01:34] <darkness_> hi ardchoille
[01:35] <BluesKaj> "i'd like to be with you again "
[01:35] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: Shh, You're giving away our age
[01:35] <ardchoille> lol
[01:35] <bobito> Alright everybody, listen up.  I needs myself some help getting kubuntu to recognize that it can infact, get internet from the network bridge I set up on my XP box.  It has thus far refused to do so, and my KNetworkManager is of no help since it either just failes to launch, or gets all pissy that my wireless card has been DOA since day 1
[01:35] <bobito> anyone brave enough to help?
[01:36] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, you started it ...we must carry on :)
[01:36] <ardchoille> hehe
[01:37] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, I have the album on vinyl ...believe it or not
[01:37] <WaltzingAlong> tekstacy: maybe not a big difference but for frequently visited sites or slower connections... but in either case actually a dns cache may yield better results ("more responsive internet")
[01:37] <ardchoille> oh, in that case  s/our age/your age/  :P
[01:37] <bobito> anybody?  pretty please?
[01:38] <bobito> with a couple of cherries on top?
[01:38] <ardchoille> lol
[01:38] <tekstacy> Cool, I will give it a try
[01:38] <BluesKaj> <---retired for 8 yrs ...not shy to tell ppl I'm 64 and still rockin' and rollin'
[01:39] <WaltzingAlong> tekstacy: bind9 for dns and read the docs for setting it up as a caching dns
[01:39] <mike-kubuntu> anyone know how to deal with bins and cues?
[01:39] <MyNameIsURL> hey all
[01:40] <bobito> don't bother mike, they ain't helpin today
[01:40] <ardchoille> bobito: Just because no one has answered your question doesn't mean another person won't get help. Please be respectful.
[01:41] <WaltzingAlong> bobito: this is #kubuntu support
[01:41] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, AAMOF, jamming tomorrow... been in the same band for 17yrs :)
[01:41] <bobito> waltzingAlong: And I have a kubuntu problem.  It won't detect an obvious internet connection
[01:41] <funcrush> Good morning~*
[01:41] <MyNameIsURL> does anybody have any idea about how to install the drivers for a Broadcom 802.11g WiFi card?
[01:42] <BluesKaj> !broadcom
[01:42] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[01:42] <WaltzingAlong> !iso | mike-kubuntu, check the list
[01:42] <ubotu> mike-kubuntu, check the list: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[01:42] <MyNameIsURL> i'm running Kubuntu Feisty Fawn
[01:42] <WaltzingAlong> bobito: wifi? results of ifconfig ?
[01:43] <bobito> WalktzingAlong: ifconfig results are here http://pastebin.com/m79fd02e0, but this laptop has no wireless card, and is right now only plugged right into a router
[01:43] <WaltzingAlong> !wifi | MyNameIsURL, either bcm43xx or ndiswrapper
[01:43] <ubotu> MyNameIsURL, either bcm43xx or ndiswrapper: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:43] <MyNameIsURL> thank you
[01:44] <MyNameIsURL> I should have thought to ask the friendly channel bot
[01:44] <tekstacy> MyNameIs, I had one of those cards, under 6.10, it was easier to just get a better card
[01:44] <WaltzingAlong> bobito: ok so eth0 is 192.168.0.110  what was not working? ping to router? dns?
[01:44] <MyNameIsURL> what's a better card?
[01:44] <MyNameIsURL> I have an HP laptop
[01:44] <MyNameIsURL> the card can be removed
[01:45] <MyNameIsURL> I been thinking about getting an 802.11n capable card anyway
[01:45] <WaltzingAlong> MyNameIsURL: i have had success with bcm43xx for broadcoms in a gateway and emachines
[01:45] <tekstacy> I have an intel n card, works fine, nothing to set up
[01:45] <tekstacy> Just take a look at the hardware compatability list
[01:45] <bobito> WaltzingAlong: Right now I'm plugged into a switch, and everything works fine, except of course that I don't have a wireless card.  Because I don't have a wireless card, I've set up a network bridge on an XP box that does.  When I take the cat5 from my kubuntu box out of the switch, and put it into the XP box, it doesn't detect automatically connect, despite the fact that I'm pretty sure I set the XP up correctly
[01:46] <bobito> WaltzingAlong: Your last statement flew completely over my head
[01:46] <bobito> WaltzingAlong: I really am too new to linux to know anything more than I just typed, so I'm just looking for someone to point me in the right direction
[01:46] <tekteen> Anyone know where kubuntu keeps the kde default settings?
[01:46] <MyNameIsURL> tekstacy: what's the model # of your Intel card? Is it a new card, still available?
[01:47] <tekstacy> um, if you are connecting JUST two boxes together, you need a different cable
[01:47] <WaltzingAlong> bobito: so the xpbox is running ICS ? then when you move the cable run   sudo dhclient eth0  in konsole
[01:47] <MyNameIsURL> yo need a crossover cable to connect 2 macnines
[01:47] <WaltzingAlong> tekstacy: my systems do not need crossover cables :D
[01:47] <cobalt> Myname is URL: Ubuntu 7.10 has the drivers built in
[01:48] <bobito> WaltzingAlong: The XP box is running a network bridge, not quite the same thing, but similar.  Does it matter?  what should I be looking for when i run sudo dhclient?  I have to disconnect from internet to try it
[01:48] <MyNameIsURL> well if the card is configurable to implement the crossover then of course you don't need one
[01:48] <tekstacy> hmmm, ok, I was wrong, I don't have n, it's a 3945abg
[01:48] <cobalt> MyName: I had that same problem with my hp lappy
[01:48] <MyNameIsURL> yeah?
[01:49] <WaltzingAlong> bobito: well from where should the kubuntu machine get its eth0 ip? normally a dhcp server but you can set it manually.
[01:49] <MyNameIsURL> I  guess I'll have to open up the panel and look at the card to get the model #
[01:49] <tekstacy> ohh, crap, I got the two of you mixed up. :)  I thought you were the one with the problem...
[01:49] <mike-kubuntu> WaltzingAlong: thanks!
[01:50] <tekteen> Anyone know where kubuntu keeps the kde default settings?
[01:50] <cobalt> MyName: no version of Ubuntu before 7.10 would pick it up.  I did get it working with the ndiswrapper function using windows drivers but that was a pain in the $%@#$%@.
[01:50] <WaltzingAlong> tekteen: for your user? ~/.kde
[01:50] <tekteen> no
[01:50] <tekteen> kde has to get the contents of .kde from somewhere.
[01:51] <tekteen> that is what I need
[01:51] <tekstacy> MyNameIsURL, you can go to KInfoCenter and find the model of your card
[01:51] <cobalt> MyName: The other thing I had to do was to treat the HP wireless chip as Eth01 not any kind of wifi.
[01:52] <WaltzingAlong> tekstacy: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/ ?
[01:52] <tekteen> I looked
[01:52] <tekstacy> :) ?
[01:52] <tekteen> and my name is tekteen lol
[01:52] <tekteen> hi tekstacy
[01:52] <WaltzingAlong> ah sorry
[01:53] <tekteen> np
[01:53] <WaltzingAlong> both appearing in the same color too!
[01:53]  * tekstacy passes tekteen a beer
[01:53] <tekstacy> er, nevermind
[01:53]  * tekteen is scared mom will find out
[01:53] <tekstacy> :)
[01:53] <bobito> WaltzingAlong: I just did a quick little bit of research, and apparently, XP doesn't forward dhcp information, so is there a way to simply set my eth0 ip to the static IP of the XP box, the one that should be being passed on to the linux machine anyway?
[01:55] <cobalt> tecstacy: do you know a utility that will set up as a printer but send out faxes.  I remeber one called EK- something that was located at a repository called Universe or Universal.  Im an old goat and my memory is slipping any help would be appreciated.
[01:55] <WaltzingAlong> bobito: yes there are simple ways to set the static IP. could do so graphically through kmenu/system settings / network settings / network interfaces               or manually editing /etc/network/interfaces
[01:55] <MyNameIsURL> bcm 4306
[01:55] <WaltzingAlong> !find fax
[01:55] <ubotu> Found: kfaxview, acfax, asterisk-app-fax, capi4hylafax, courier-faxmail (and 12 others)
[01:55] <MyNameIsURL> !bcm4306
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcm4306 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <MyNameIsURL> that's the model card I have
[01:56] <cobalt> MyName: let me fire up my lappy and I will get you the name of the driver.
[01:56] <tekstacy> cobalt, sorry, never needed to send a fax yet
[01:56] <bobito> WaltzingAlong: So simply hitting configure interface in Network settings, and checking manual sets a static ip?
[01:57] <WaltzingAlong> bobito: yeah set the interface to manual (not dhcp)
[01:57] <bobito> WaltzingAlong: alright, let me try that.  Wish me luck
[01:57] <cobalt> anybody else ?
[01:57] <tekstacy> MyNameIs, under an earlier version, I had to use ndiswrapper to use the windows driver
[01:58] <cobalt> teckstacy: It's good to see that someone else shared my nightmare
[01:59] <tekstacy> it sucked. Is there a better way now?
[01:59] <WaltzingAlong> same here - much easier to set up with ndiswrapper with feisty and very easy now with bcm43xx on gutsy
[01:59] <darkness_s> MyNameIsURL: bcm43xx acts weird on my laptop
[01:59] <darkness_s> i prefer ndiswrapper
[02:00] <cobalt> I will have that driver name in a moment
[02:00] <tekstacy> look on ebay and you can pick up an intel card for a few bucks.
[02:00] <darkness_s> is it bcmwl5
[02:00] <darkness_s> the windows driver
[02:03] <cobalt> no its "bcm43xxfirmware.tar"
[02:05] <tekstacy> Goodnight all.
[02:05] <tekteen> night
[02:05] <tekstacy> quit
[02:05] <tekstacy> crap, sorry. hoorid little keyboard
[02:06] <tekstacy> g'nite tekteen
[02:06] <cobalt> darkness: It is a little strange on mine too you have to set up the wireless as Eth01 to get it to work after you have done this firmware mod
[02:07] <cobalt> anybody here tried to send a fax from Ubuntu 7.10 ?
[02:08] <pacman> I'm trying to set it up so that everytime I download a torrent, it automatically goes into ktorrent
[02:09] <ardchoille> pacman: You could go into file associations and associate ktorrent with the proper torrent files extension
[02:11] <darkness_s> cobalt : maybe gfax could help
[02:14] <cobalt> Thx but not exactly what I am needing is a fax printer program
[02:14] <cobalt> Like the one in M$ XP
[02:16] <WaltzingAlong> !info efax | cobalt, and efax-gtk
[02:16] <ubotu> cobalt, and efax-gtk: efax: programs to send and receive fax messages. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.9a-19 (gutsy), package size 107 kB, installed size 300 kB
[02:16] <cobalt> efax-gtk is the one I remember where can I find it?
[02:17] <WaltzingAlong> cobalt: sudo aptitude install efax-gtk                   or through adept manager
[02:17] <cobalt> k thanks
[02:17] <ratts> why are there no close or minimize buttons on the top right corner of any of my windows???????????//
[02:17] <WaltzingAlong> ratts: compiz?
[02:17] <ratts> yes
[02:18] <MyNameIsURL> bcm43xxfirmware.tar?
[02:18] <WaltzingAlong> ratts: then you shall find support in #compiz-fusion :D   otherwise run         kwin --replace &          in konsole
[02:18] <MyNameIsURL> Where can I find that?
[02:18] <ratts> i went there. no one helped
[02:18] <MyNameIsURL> they're pretty cool in there
[02:18] <ratts> ok ya that worked
[02:18] <ratts> but no more compiz lol
[02:19] <WaltzingAlong> of course. kwin is a window manager. compiz is a window manager. only one is allowed to manage the windows at a time
[02:19] <cobalt> Waltzing along: Done thanks again
[02:19] <ratts> how do i instal a kde theme?
[02:19] <WaltzingAlong> ratts: well at least you know it was a compiz issue. maybe there are specific workarounds or settings ...
[02:20] <WaltzingAlong> !themes  | ratts
[02:20] <ubotu> ratts: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[02:20] <ratts> probably
[02:20] <ratts> i found my themes lol
[02:20] <ratts> i want to install the,
[02:20] <ratts> them
[02:20] <WaltzingAlong> !changethemes | ratts
[02:20] <ubotu> ratts: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[02:20] <ratts> thanx
[02:21] <ratts> umm that didnt help...says go to system>preferences>themes....but thats what i do on gnome...im on kde
[02:21] <WaltzingAlong> "The KDE Theme Manager is not directly available through Kubuntu's System Settings" ... is it available indirectly through kubuntu's systemsettings? nope, not available at all through systemsettings. one could fire up kcontrol though
[02:21] <WaltzingAlong> follow the second link, "kubuntu themes"
[02:22] <ratts> i did
[02:22] <ratts> kubuntu themes shows me the themes for gnome for some reason
[02:23] <WaltzingAlong> ratts: here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu ?
[02:23] <ratts> ]found it thanks
[02:31] <darkness_s> how can i install gtk+-2.0?
[02:31] <darkness_s> too many packages contain gtk on the name
[02:32] <WaltzingAlong> darkness_s: what are you looking for, exactly?
[02:34] <darkness_s> im trying to compile something, and it ask for gtk
[02:36] <WaltzingAlong> darkness_s: libgtk2.0-dev ?
[02:37] <darkness_s> Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[02:37] <darkness_s> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[02:37] <darkness_s> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[02:37] <darkness_s> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[02:39] <WaltzingAlong> !info libgtk2.0-dev | darkness_s
[02:39] <ubotu> darkness_s: libgtk2.0-dev: Development files for the GTK+ library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.12.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 2588 kB, installed size 9132 kB
[02:39] <darkness_s> ok thank you
[02:39] <darkness_s> i have to leave
[02:39] <MyNameIsURL> hey, how can I kill a particular thread that's running?
[02:39] <darkness_s> byw to everybody
[02:39] <MyNameIsURL> bye darkness
[02:40] <kib1> please i need
[02:40] <WaltzingAlong> MyNameIsURL: graphically through ksysguard
[02:40] <kib1> help
[02:40] <kib1> i just upgrade to kde this day
[02:40] <kib1> and all was working great
[02:40] <kib1> but i cant hear anything
[02:40] <kib1> :(
[02:40] <WaltzingAlong> !enter | kib1
[02:40] <ubotu> kib1: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:40] <kib1> what can i do_
[02:41] <WaltzingAlong> !sound | kib1
[02:41] <ubotu> kib1: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:41] <MyNameIsURL> for some reason, when X windows starts, the same few apps get launched and come up every time
[02:42] <MyNameIsURL> I want to kill the wallet, but I don't know the name of the thread
[02:42] <cobalt> .
[02:42] <kib1> sorry for write in many lines, yes arts is running and i have amarok
[02:42] <WaltzingAlong> MyNameIsURL: those are saved as a session. you can control sessions through the session manager
[02:45] <WaltzingAlong> MyNameIsURL: open kcontrol   then search for session, open the session manager
[02:45] <kib1> some answer??? when i had gnome i used to hear music well
[02:45] <MyNameIsURL> damn bwb!
[02:46] <biovore> kib1: kill arts
[02:46] <biovore> killall artsd
[02:46] <biovore> have amarok use alsa
[02:46] <tekteen> !helpersnack | WaltzingAlong
[02:46] <ubotu> WaltzingAlong: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[02:46] <bryan> hi everyone. i am a supern00b and i need someone to take me under their uber wings
[02:46] <WaltzingAlong> tekteen: thanks
[02:46] <tekteen> bryan: ask away
[02:46] <bryan> thanx tek
[02:47] <bryan> ok i have ati radeon x1600 graphics card
[02:47] <MyNameIsURL> yeah WaltzingAlong and tekteen, you guys are both very helpful
[02:47] <MyNameIsURL> appreciated
[02:47] <bryan> i know about all of the pain it is to install driver
[02:47] <bryan> i have kubuntu 7.10 and trying to get compiz to initiate
[02:47] <WaltzingAlong> welcome to the kommunity :D
[02:47] <tekteen> MyNameIsURL: thanks
[02:47] <bryan> it wont start. HELP
[02:47] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | bryan, how far were you getting?
[02:48] <kib1> biovore:so i cant use both thats my problem?? i had to uninstall arts or alsa to resolve it ??
[02:48] <bryan> well its installed but it says i dont have xgl
[02:48] <MyNameIsURL> anybody know the Name of the thread responsible for the KDE Wallet?
[02:48] <bryan> and no whitelist driver found
[02:49] <WaltzingAlong> bryan: basically three steps. 1) install 3d accel drivers for your video card, 2) install compiz, and 3) configure compiz
[02:49] <WaltzingAlong> bryan: which video card?
[02:49] <bryan> thats what i figured. ati radeon x1600
[02:49] <WaltzingAlong> MyNameIsURL: kwalletmanager --kwalletd
[02:50] <tekteen> bryan: open a konsole and type "sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl"
[02:50] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx 8.42.3 (this one supports AIGLX) howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide (for 3d support on older radeon cards, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver for data) | bryan or using the fglrx available with ubuntu then you need to install xserver-xgl
[02:50] <MyNameIsURL> not seeing it in the process table
[02:50] <tekteen> bryan: then logout and log back in
[02:50] <MyNameIsURL> guess I'll just command-line it
[02:50] <bryan> ok its saying cant find package xserver-xgl
[02:51] <tekteen> ok
[02:51] <tekteen> !repo
[02:51] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:51] <WaltzingAlong> MyNameIsURL: in konsole, ps aux | grep wallet
[02:51] <bryan> do i not have it in repository list
[02:51] <WaltzingAlong> !info xserver-xgl
[02:51] <ubotu> xserver-xgl: GL-based X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.99.1~git20070727-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 1696 kB, installed size 4404 kB
[02:51] <WaltzingAlong> bryan: 'universe' needs to be enabled
[02:51] <bryan> ok can u help me there please
[02:51] <tekteen> ok
[02:52] <bryan> how do i do that waltzing
[02:52] <WaltzingAlong> though with the 8.42.3 version of the fglrx module/driver, xserver-xgl is not needed
[02:52] <tekteen> nope
[02:52] <tekteen> still need it
[02:52] <bryan> <<< confuzed
[02:52] <WaltzingAlong> ah but the 8.42.3 driver supports aiglx
[02:52] <tekteen> ok
[02:53] <MyNameIsURL> kill kwalletd doesn't work
[02:53] <WaltzingAlong> bryan: follow this to enable universe   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:53] <tekteen> !compiz
[02:53] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:53] <WaltzingAlong> MyNameIsURL: killall kwalletmanager
[02:54] <MyNameIsURL> "kwalletmanager: no process killed"
[02:55] <bryan> ok i enabled universe
[02:55] <kib1> thanks very much for your help
[02:55] <WaltzingAlong> bryan: then update then install xserver-xgl
[02:55] <WaltzingAlong> MyNameIsURL: was it running?
[02:55] <bryan> doing that now waltzing
[02:55] <bryan> thank you so much btw
[02:55] <WaltzingAlong> MyNameIsURL: results from ps aux | grep -i wallet
[02:55] <WaltzingAlong> welcome!
[02:56] <bryan> ok waltzing now what
[02:56] <MyNameIsURL> WaltzingAlong: 6676  0.0  0.0   2880   804 pts/5    R+   20:56   0:00 grep -i wallet
[02:57] <WaltzingAlong> MyNameIsURL: ok so no others running
[02:57] <WaltzingAlong> MyNameIsURL: just your search for wallet
[02:57] <WaltzingAlong> bryan: installed xserver-xgl ?
[02:57] <MyNameIsURL> hmmm
[02:57] <WaltzingAlong> then follow the rest of the steps at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[02:57] <bryan> yes
[02:58] <bryan> but when i try compiz yet it still says no xgl
[02:58] <Rukus> anyone know anything about enabling Direct Rendering on an xpress 200m? using proprietary driver with fglrx
[02:58] <bryan> <<<<<<<<UBER NOOB
[02:58] <WaltzingAlong> bryan: you would need to restart X (log out, log in)
[02:58] <WaltzingAlong> and kill X
[02:58] <WaltzingAlong> between with ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:58] <bryan> ok brb i know how to do that
[02:59] <WaltzingAlong> !ati | Rukus
[02:59] <Radi01> Murderer.
[02:59] <ubotu> Rukus: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:59] <Radi01> loo
[02:59] <WaltzingAlong> Radi01: he wakes again quickly
[02:59] <Dr_willis> Rukus,  i see a lot of people asking about that.. and i even have a x200m. Not sure its easially doable. :) I havent got it done yet.
[02:59] <Rukus> i know how to install the drivers and i have gone thought it many times, i just dont see Direct Rendering working
[02:59] <Rukus> oh ok Dr_willis
[02:59] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: and the error that shows in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[02:59] <Rukus> i "heard" it couldnt be done, and i also "heard" it had been done
[03:00] <Rukus> i am not sure how
[03:00] <Rukus> how do i find that error?
[03:00] <Dr_willis> Rukus,  googling now found this info  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341149
[03:00] <JmA___> I´m having problems configuring wireless connection in ubuntu 7.04. The first one is that when I connect to a network, it asks me the password, and a put the correct one, but it keeps asking me forever.. and the second is that my network is not dhcp, and ifconfig <inter> my ip appears doesn´t work with network manager... Can anyone help me? Tks
[03:00] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> hello im trying to install kde 4 rc 1, im following the official guide so when i type : sudo make install on dbus it says : kde-devel is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. can u help me plz? thanks :)
[03:01] <biovore> asdfasdfasdfasdf: add kde-devel to admin group
[03:01] <biovore> asdfasdfasdfasdf: in /etc/groups
[03:01] <biovore> err group
[03:01] <tekteen> !ati | tekteen
[03:01] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> nano /etc/groups?
[03:02] <WaltzingAlong> asdfasdfasdfasdf: just add the stuff from your regular user then use the kde-devel account only for hacking at kde
[03:02] <biovore> asdfasdfasdfasdf: I think its /etc/group  but yeah.. add kde-devel on to the admin:<stuf> line
[03:02] <Rukus> WaltzingAlong i cant find any error in that log ....
[03:02] <Rukus> i just know it isnt enabled by viewing  glxinfo
[03:03] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: mind sharing it and /etc/X11/xorg.conf via !pastebin ?
[03:03] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> lol hacking, so that means i dont need kde-devel i can install it from my simple normal user WaltzingAlong ?
[03:03] <JmA___> anyone can help me with network manager?
[03:03] <biovore> yeah.. ati sucks most of the time.. some cards work ok.. alot don't..
[03:03] <WaltzingAlong> asdfasdfasdfasdf: sure follow the instructions at kubuntu.org any user on the system could use it
[03:04] <Rukus> you want both that log and my xorg conf?
[03:04] <Rukus> ok
[03:04] <Rukus> give me a couple mins
[03:04] <MyNameIsURL> WaltzingAlong: I terminated the session using session manager
[03:04] <MyNameIsURL> now I'm going to reboot
[03:04] <MyNameIsURL> I'll talk to you all tomorrow, most likely
[03:04] <MyNameIsURL> thanks again for the help
[03:04] <MyNameIsURL> l8r
[03:04] <WaltzingAlong> MyNameIsURL: well you know where to find the #kubuntu kommunity ;D
[03:05] <WaltzingAlong> until then!
[03:05] <Rukus> Dr_willis thanks for that link, but i am a little iffy on running random scripts, being new to ubuntu, i dont wanna accidentally  rm - rf anything haha
[03:05] <jmichaelx> if any in here use an rt2500 based wireless card, could you please tell me what you do to make it work well in gutsy? one of the very most frustrating things to me about *ubuntu, is how something like a wireless crad will work in one version of the OS, not in the next, but will work again in the next....
[03:05] <Rukus> !pastebin
[03:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:06] <Dr_willis> Rukus,  personally.. with a x200 being such a low end video card.. i wouldent even bother with the compiz stuff
[03:06] <Dr_willis> and i havent messed with it on my laptop. :)
[03:06] <Rukus> compiz works, dont get me wrong. just not all the effects and its implied to me if i enadle Direct Rendering, i might boost performance
[03:06] <Rukus> enable*
[03:06] <WaltzingAlong> installed it. oh that is it? removed it (disabled for now)
[03:06] <Dr_willis> the things people do for wiggly windows. :)
[03:07] <WaltzingAlong> ;d
[03:07] <Rukus> like,  relfection .... once i enable that, computer goes "poop"
[03:07] <jmichaelx> actually, i have a radeon 9000 on my other desktop, and i use it & compiz-fusion on a 22" wide-screen monitor with OS drivers with no problem at all...
[03:07] <biovore> Dr_willis: If I want wiggle blue windows.. I use windows XP with a deguser running near by on a CRT :-P
[03:07] <jmichaelx> in fedora 8
[03:07] <Rukus> yah, and an xpress 200m is equivalent to x300 pci xpress
[03:08] <Rukus> i also have 128mb dedicated video ram
[03:08] <Rukus> ok one sec getting pastebin
[03:08] <inaety> Hello i just got a new monitor and its native resolution is 1680x1050 but i want to make it higher than that but even after adding resolutions in my xorg.conf and running nvidia-xconfig, i can't change the resolutioj
[03:08] <inaety> resolution
[03:08] <WaltzingAlong> inaety: in konsole, xrandr        shows what?
[03:08] <Rukus> inaety - if its an LCD, you cannot havea higher res than native. from what i understand
[03:09] <Rukus> atleast i cant
[03:09] <Rukus> :(
[03:09] <Dr_willis> Rukus,  i belive so also.. ALSO anything higher will look rather nasty i bet.
[03:09] <jmichaelx> inaety: if 1650x1080 is the monitor's native resolution, i would think you should not increase it beyond that
[03:09] <inaety> Rukus: its an lcd
[03:09] <Rukus> stuck at 1280x800  trust me i tried
[03:09] <Rukus> native res is high as u can go
[03:09] <Rukus> google it
[03:09] <Dr_willis> lcd's best at their actual native res.
[03:09] <inaety> oh okay
[03:09] <Rukus> :)
[03:09] <inaety> it still looks nice i just like a lot of screen
[03:09] <Dr_willis> you are using a dvi connection?
[03:09] <Rukus> i never tried in linux tho
[03:09] <Rukus> ...
[03:10] <Rukus> ok brb
[03:10] <inaety> Dr_willis: yeah
[03:10] <inaety> vga is all screwed up
[03:10] <Dr_willis> inaety, dvi blows vga away. :)
[03:11] <inaety> Dr_willis: i was hoping.  everything is so clear now, i just got rid of a 7 year old 17 inch
[03:11] <Dr_willis> I got 2 monitors on this box right now.  - that gives me a real real real wide screen heh.
[03:11] <inaety> what size are they
[03:11] <Dr_willis> one is a 22" other is a 19"
[03:11] <Dr_willis> both are widesrceen
[03:11] <Azzco> "mkdir: cannot create directory `grub': Input/output error" Help?
[03:11] <inaety> yeah
[03:11] <inaety> mine is 22 inch, and im happy ^_^
[03:11] <Dr_willis> Azzco,  what command are you doing exactly?
[03:11] <inaety> thank god for Black Friday :P
[03:11] <WaltzingAlong> Azzco: mkdir grub ? mkdir grub/ ?
[03:11] <Dr_willis> inaety,  yea. the 2nd lcd was a spare i had.
[03:12] <Azzco> Dr_willis: "mkdir grub"
[03:12] <Dr_willis> Azzco,  you need root permissions to make files/dirs in 'system' type places
[03:12] <WaltzingAlong> Azzco: have permission to write to the device?
[03:12] <Azzco> I've used sudo su
[03:12] <WaltzingAlong> mounted as readonly?
[03:12] <Dr_willis> sudo -s  - is a better habbit then 'sudo su' :)
[03:13] <Dr_willis> Azzco,  so where are you trying to make this directory at? and why.
[03:13] <Azzco> I thoguht I'd make a new boot partition as I'm trying a few different distros right now...
[03:13] <Dr_willis> I think some day - the ubuntu/kubunu guys should put a bunch of Bash tutorials on the disks. :)
[03:13] <Azzco> It's a clean partition I'm trying to make the dir on
[03:14] <Dr_willis> Azzco,  ive done that befor.. it can take some work. I normally let one disrto handle grub totally.
[03:14] <Rukus> WaltzingAlong: here is the xorg.conf : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45651/  and here is the xorg.0.log : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45650/
[03:14] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: thanks
[03:14] <Dr_willis> Azzco,  you did fdisk, then format the partion? thus making a actuual filesystem?
[03:14] <Dr_willis> then you mount the filesystem somewhere.
[03:14] <Rukus> thank you.
[03:14] <Azzco> I used parted and made it ext2
[03:15] <Dr_willis> You did format it? You did mount it?
[03:15] <Azzco> Yupp
[03:15] <Azzco> There is even a kernel image there I added about 15 minutes ago
[03:16] <Dr_willis> you sure theres not a grub directory allready? :)
[03:16] <WaltzingAlong> sudo su then cd takes you to a different directory than you may expect as normal user and cd
[03:16] <Azzco> Nope... just a symlink to itself and a lost+found
[03:17] <Dr_willis> symlink to itself?
[03:17] <WaltzingAlong> Azzco: hm
[03:17] <Dr_willis> try 'touch test_file' to see if you can create a file on the filesystem
[03:17] <WaltzingAlong> cannot make it if it exists
[03:17] <Azzco> Okay touch worked... weird
[03:18] <Dr_willis> try 'mkdir test_dir' :)
[03:18] <Azzco> Nope making dirs doesn't work it seems..
[03:18] <Dr_willis> thats... weird..
[03:18] <Azzco> Was just thinking the same..
[03:18] <Dr_willis> i would check how its mounted.
[03:19] <Dr_willis> ls -l , to see who owns the files also., and dirs that are there.
[03:19] <dannybuntu> can anyone help me?
[03:19] <Dr_willis> I cant think of a way to disable making of dirs.. :) so cant think of what to look for.
[03:19] <WaltzingAlong> dannybuntu: with?
[03:19] <Dr_willis> we dont have ESP dannybuntu  :)
[03:19] <tekteen> !ask | dannybuntu
[03:19] <ubotu> dannybuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:20] <Azzco> Dr_willis: root owns everything and the only dir is the lost+found
[03:20] <WaltzingAlong> not all of us anyway
[03:20] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | dannybuntu
[03:20] <dannybuntu> aight - my computer keeps on saying that adept is running
[03:20] <Dr_willis> !adept
[03:20] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:20] <Dr_willis> fixadept
[03:20] <tekteen> !adeptfix
[03:20] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[03:20] <Dr_willis> !fixadept
[03:20] <Dr_willis> heh
[03:21] <Dr_willis> be sure all the package manager type programs are closed.. only ONE is to run at a time
[03:21] <Azzco> I'll try to reformat that partition...
[03:21] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: have you tried adding a 'dri' module? in xorg.conf
[03:21] <Dr_willis> that includes apt-get, and aptitude, and synaptic, and adept, and.. others that i cant rember. :)
[03:21] <WaltzingAlong> dpkg
[03:21] <dannybuntu> well yes. i killed them all
[03:21] <Rukus> WaltzingAlong: no i have not
[03:22] <tekteen> then use the command
[03:22] <Rukus> i dont even know where to put it
[03:22] <dannybuntu> i was trying to run automatix2
[03:22] <WaltzingAlong> ok i will send it to you
[03:22] <dannybuntu> i did a :ps ax | grep adept
[03:23] <bobleny> Hey, I have an issue... I am unable to access phpmyadmin, it says, "The configuration file now needs a secret passphrase (blowfish_secret)." I looked it up online and all I could find was to change a line of code in a config file. Well when I checked the file, it was already changed.
[03:23] <dannybuntu> oh btw dr_willis helped me backed then
[03:23] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45652/
[03:23] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> WaltzingAlong: i got to this cs # see above
[03:23] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> wget http://dbus.freedesktop.org/releases/dbus-glib/dbus-glib-0.74.tar.gz
[03:23] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> tar -xvzf dbus-glib-0.74.tar.gz
[03:23] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> cd dbus-glib-0.74/
[03:23] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> ./configure --prefix=$DBUSDIR
[03:24] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> make
[03:24] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> sudo make install
[03:24] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> cb
[03:24] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> sudo chown -R kde-devel:kde-devel * if u see the final line it says kde-devel since im not that one i changed it ton the one im using (nico) so i put this instead of the final one sudo chown -R nico:nico *  but it now gives me the following error :"cannot acced to '*' the file or directory does not exist"
[03:24] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> sorry 4 the translation i got it in spanish :)
[03:24] <dannybuntu> ok there - it worked
[03:24] <Azzco> Dr_willis: Problem solved with a reformat.. Nasty thingy there though
[03:24] <WaltzingAlong> asdfasdfasdfasdf: *.* ? or specify -R and a directory like .
[03:25] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> O.O
[03:25] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> pardon me?
[03:25] <Azzco> Dr_willis: Thanks for the help ;)
[03:25] <dannybuntu> brb
[03:26] <bobleny> Man, dr_willis is here again! Does he ever leave.......
[03:26] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> u mean sudo chown -R <directory> WaltzingAlong  ?
[03:26] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: and here is the error: line783   (EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727)  / line 784 (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software renderin
[03:26] <WaltzingAlong> asdfasdfasdfasdf: well with the owner name in there too and directory could be . which is current directory
[03:26] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> i guess /home/nico
[03:27] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> the default one i never used cd but theres rhe command cs, so dunno
[03:27] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> the*
[03:27] <Rukus> WaltzingAlong: i run XGL-server.  should i run aiglx?  i am confused what the erro means and what i need to do to fix it
[03:27] <JmA___> Anyone can help me with network wireless connection.. ive already have wireless card configured, but network manager can´t connect to my network
[03:28] <chris__> is your router a netgear?
[03:28] <JmA___> mine?
[03:28] <chris__> yeah my wireless works great for everything but netgears for some reason
[03:28] <alex__> someone of Brazil?
[03:29] <JmA___> no .. its encore
[03:29] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. wow - i just found a HUGE example of "game company stupidity' - Dang serial # was using 0 and O's :) and the font w made them almost identical.
[03:29] <JmA___> for some reason my auth doesnt work
[03:29] <Dr_willis> bobleny,  Just for you. :) i will go play bioshock now for a while. heh
[03:29] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: if you are going to use xserver-xgl (not aiglx) then you could specify aiglx as off in xorg.conf
[03:30] <JmA___> but if i try to connect behind the screen asking me the password again, it works!
[03:30] <bobleny> Never heard of it.......
[03:30] <chris__> try changing the router security settings to open or no security and see if oit works then.
[03:30] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: by the way which version of the fglrx module is this?
[03:30] <Rukus> waltzing along, i read that xgl runs a little better for my chipset
[03:31] <Rukus> how do i find what version?
[03:31] <JmA___> yeah .. alredy tryed... but i got another problem.. my network is fixed ip, so roaming mode doesnt work
[03:31] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45653/ here aiglx is disabled
[03:31] <chris__> Your best bet is to do a google search.  I found step by steps for everything
[03:31] <Rukus> WaltzingAlong: OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)
[03:31] <Rukus> that?
[03:32] <chris__> good luck
[03:32] <JmA___> so I ve setted every manually, but it doesnt work
[03:33] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: yes. fglrx 8.42.3 can use aiglx (does not require xserver-xgl)       but try with the server flag disabling aiglx for now
[03:33] <Rukus> ok, so after i add "Option "AIGLX" "off""  i need to ctrl alt bckspce and see what happens correct?
[03:34] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: yes
[03:34] <nzk> What does it mean to dump one's core and trace one's stack?
[03:34] <WaltzingAlong> gather debugging data
[03:35] <Rukus> ok i will brb WaltzingAlong: closing all apps and restarting X-server
[03:36] <Rukus> if i dont come back, i am restoring my xorg.conf blindfolded. ATI cars dont display terminal properly full screen
[03:36] <Rukus> cards
[03:36] <Rukus> lol
[03:36] <Rukus> brb
[03:36] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: :D ok
[03:40] <Rukus> ok
[03:40] <Rukus> no DRI
[03:41] <Rukus> compiz looks a little different
[03:41] <WaltzingAlong> well how about the new log?
[03:41] <Rukus> ok one sec
[03:41] <Rukus> xorg.0.conf
[03:41] <Rukus> correct
[03:41] <Rukus> err .log
[03:41] <WaltzingAlong> /var/log/xorg.0.log
[03:42] <Rukus> ok
[03:42] <Rukus> i got xorg.1.log and xorg.9.log... why?
[03:42] <Rukus> i do have the one u want tho
[03:42] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> WaltzingAlong: do u know how lond does it take to download qt?
[03:42] <Rukus> !paste
[03:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:42] <WaltzingAlong> asdfasdfasdfasdf: no. connection speed. server speed. distance. so on
[03:43] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> lol i know estimated
[03:43] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> 640 k <[03:43] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> :)
[03:43] <Rukus> WaltzingAlong: here is the log:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45654/
[03:43] <alex__> join kubuntubr
[03:45] <WaltzingAlong> yeah still do not know, size/speed = time ?
[03:46] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: in konsole, glxinfo | grep -i direct
[03:46] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: this log shows (II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering enabled
[03:47] <Rukus> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[03:47] <Rukus> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[03:47] <WaltzingAlong> ok pastebin that output           in konsole, LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[03:47] <Rukus> ok
[03:49] <Rukus> WaltzingAlong: here is the output  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45655/
[03:51] <homercycles> Hello. I'm in dire straits, I just started to install kubuntu, then it put the monitor to sleep, and now won't even boot into Windows XP. I've booted off the live CD again, installer still shows prior partitions, but "fdisk /dev/sda" says "Cannot open /dev/sda". Anybody know how I can restore my boot sector?
[03:51] <homercycles> it was when I finished the installer's questions and click Next when t was about to do the partitioning that it keeled over and put the monitor to sleep. I'm not game enough to go through the wizard again in case it makes the situation worse
[03:53] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: ok and the output of LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose fglrxinfo
[03:53] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> WaltzingAlong: sorry i need to ask it my friend, are u using kde 4?
[03:53] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> sorry culdnt resist :)
[03:53] <WaltzingAlong> asdfasdfasdfasdf: i have it installed here yeah
[03:53] <WaltzingAlong> asdfasdfasdfasdf: but am now in a kde3.5.8 session
[03:53] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> omg
[03:54] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> WaltzingAlong: so tell me how does it feel?
[03:54] <WaltzingAlong> so i lauch an app here and there, was in the full kde4 session
[03:54] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> cool
[03:55] <ciacon> hi all
[03:55] <WaltzingAlong> asdfasdfasdfasdf: get your feet wet :D
[03:55] <homercycles> clicking on my existing NTFS partitions in Dophin also says "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999" as well :-(
[03:55] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> WaltzingAlong: loooooooooool
[03:55] <Rukus> WaltzingAlong: here is the pastebin:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45656/
[03:55] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> that says a lot :)
[03:55] <WaltzingAlong> homercycles: in konqueror media:/ right mouse click the device, properties, mounting, uncheck mount as user
[03:56] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: even that one is reporting ati as the opengl provider  (would be mesa if it were *not* direct as far as i know)
[03:56] <ciacon> I have a little q - for some reason I managed to brick Strigi - Status tells me -> "Unique words indexed  -1" & "Documents indexed  -1"
[03:56] <homercycles> WaltzingAlong: thanks, not sure how to get into konq as a file browser off this Kubuntu live CD (seems web browser only). but Dolphin has such an option, too... same error after I unticked user
[03:57] <ciacon> can someone give me a hint?
[03:57] <Rukus> well, i think i am going to try what that guy did, in your pm you sent me
[03:57] <WaltzingAlong> homercycles: open konqueror. in the location/address bar, type media:/                       or settings/load view profile / file browsingg
[03:57] <Rukus> and see what happens
[03:57] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: wait a moment
[03:57] <Rukus> k
[03:58] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45657/ added drm to the modules
[03:58] <homercycles> WaltzingAlong: thanks. Did that and Konq seems to have remembered that preference after I unticked it in Dolphin. Still same error... Do you think it's possible that the Kubuntu installer has mangled my partitions and subsequently can't mount anything?
[03:59] <Rukus> WaltzingAlong: what did you add??
[03:59] <Rukus> line 123?
[03:59] <WaltzingAlong> line 123 load drm
[03:59] <Rukus> ok
[03:59] <WaltzingAlong> homercycles: this hal-storage.. is a common one
[04:00] <homercycles> WaltzingAlong: don't suppose there's a common workaround for it? apart from that mount as user option?
[04:00] <pacman> so I downloaded totem, and tried to play a video
[04:00] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: unless you tell me you have vga out and dvi out, using dvi ;)
[04:00] <pacman> and I got this message: The playback of this movie requires a Advanced Streaming Format (ASF) demuxer plugin which is not installed.
[04:00] <Rukus> say what?
[04:00] <biovore> !restricted-formats
[04:00] <Rukus> its a laptop
[04:00] <WaltzingAlong> homercycles: not that i know. when you get the system set up that change should be remembered
[04:00] <homercycles> WaltzingAlong: I'm hoping to mount those drives and backup the data across the network since 'm worried Kubuntu installer has rendered my partitions unusable
[04:00] <biovore> !restricted
[04:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:02] <WaltzingAlong> homercycles: well from just that message there is not enough to know that the ntfs partitions are empty or unusable
[04:02] <Rukus> WaltzingAlong:  restart X-server?
[04:02] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: yes
[04:02] <Rukus> ok brb
[04:02] <homercycles> WaltzingAlong: the wizard still shows my existing partitions but fdisk can't open /dev/sda (I was hoping to set XP as active and then reboot).
[04:02] <ciacon> can someone help me with strigi?
[04:03] <WaltzingAlong> homercycles: qtparted should be on there too; could set that partition active from there
[04:03] <i_want_kde_4> WaltzingAlong: i finished donloading qt and it says nico@nico-desktop:~/qt-copy$ make -j2
[04:03] <i_want_kde_4> no objdir found. Tried /home/nico/qt-copy
[04:03] <i_want_kde_4> what now? :)
[04:03] <homercycles> WaltzingAlong: thanks. will try that
[04:03] <jmichaelx> if any in here use an rt2500 based wireless card, could you please tell me what you do to make it work well in gutsy?
[04:04] <WaltzingAlong> i_want_kde_4: not interested in installing rc1 through the existing kubuntu packages?
[04:05] <homercycles> WaltzingAlong: qtparted sayd currently active partition was "No Active on Drive" and is allowing me to set active to /dev/sda1. Thankyou very much. I'll give that a shot
[04:05] <i_want_kde_4> WaltzingAlong: pvm blocked
[04:05] <i_want_kde_4> WaltzingAlong: invite me :) and is it possible?
[04:05] <Rukus> WaltzingAlong: still no Direct Rendering
[04:06] <WaltzingAlong> i_want_kde_4: well either build following http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4      or yes just install the existing rc1 http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[04:06] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: ok how about the log again just for kicks and by the way does it seem like there is direct rendering eventhough there is the report to the contrary?
[04:06] <Rukus> i dont know
[04:06] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: glxgears for example
[04:06] <Rukus> ok one sec
[04:07] <Rukus> 0105 frames in 5.1 seconds = 1999.880 FPS
[04:07] <Rukus> maybe?
[04:07] <Rukus> lol
[04:07] <WaltzingAlong> 2000fps
[04:07] <WaltzingAlong> :D
[04:07]  * i_want_kde_4 grabs a shotgun ans shoots himself :S
[04:07] <Rukus> but compiz sucks, my transparent taskbar has borders
[04:08] <Rukus> its not supposed to?
[04:08] <i_want_kde_4> WaltzingAlong: didnt know about that ill try that super easy way thank u sooooo much :)
[04:08] <WaltzingAlong> i_want_kde_4: :D
[04:08] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: i do not know about that
[04:08] <Rukus> 1440 frames in 5.3 seconds = 273.026 FPS
[04:08] <Rukus> thas full screen
[04:09] <Rukus> what did adding module "drm" do for me?
[04:10] <usamahashimi> Helo everyone!
[04:11] <i_want_kde_4> sh1t happens i under feisty should it work if i use gutsy repository?
[04:11] <WaltzingAlong> Rukus: direct rendering module
[04:11] <WaltzingAlong> i_want_kde_4: oh! under feisty
[04:11] <i_want_kde_4> yup
[04:12] <usamahashimi> I am facing a problem, recently I have installed kubuntu on my pc, when I want to access files on my network which are shared, my system is asking for password, i entered the password but it is not accepting, can anyone help me?
[04:12] <WaltzingAlong> i_want_kde_4: maybe you could run a chroot gutsy just for that. i do not think it has been backported to feisty
[04:12] <Rukus> i am going to try without it, i think my transperancy worked better before?
[04:12] <i_want_kde_4> ooops :(
[04:12] <i_want_kde_4> chroot gutsy? on konsole?
[04:12] <WaltzingAlong> usamahashimi: and the computer sharing the files? windows? samba? had you set a password there?
[04:12] <WaltzingAlong> !chroot
[04:12] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[04:13]  * jmichaelx grabs a shotgun and aims for his gutsy install cd
[04:13] <WaltzingAlong> i_want_kde_4: yeah then you could build according to the other site i sent
[04:13] <i_want_kde_4> thats what ive been doing
[04:13] <i_want_kde_4> :)
[04:13] <i_want_kde_4> and :(
[04:13] <i_want_kde_4> xD
[04:13] <Rukus> brb
[04:14] <usamahashimi> WaltzingAlong: yes, these computers run windows, i installed samba at my system and also set user/password for it
[04:14] <WaltzingAlong> i_want_kde_4: well i have found the steps at the techbase site easy to follow
[04:15] <i_want_kde_4> yup the are easy
[04:15] <i_want_kde_4> except for the unknown errors :(
[04:15] <WaltzingAlong> usamahashimi: so in konqueror     smb://user@192.168.0.100        then it should ask for the password
[04:16] <usamahashimi> WaltzingAlong: no, it is not asking for any password, an empty page appears
[04:17] <usamahashimi> WaltzingAlong: and an error comes, "timeout server"
[04:17] <i_want_kde_4> well i tried cd # Note: qt-copy lives in $HOME/qt-copy. See $QTDIR in .bashrc
[04:17] <i_want_kde_4> svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/qt-copy
[04:17] <i_want_kde_4> cd qt-copy
[04:17] <i_want_kde_4> ./apply_patches
[04:17] <i_want_kde_4> ./configure -qt-gif -no-exceptions -debug -fast \
[04:17] <i_want_kde_4>  -prefix $QTDIR -nomake examples -nomake demos
[04:17] <i_want_kde_4> make -j2 and i got the following error: no objdir found. Tried /home/nico/qt-copy
[04:17] <WaltzingAlong> usamahashimi: well of course you need to change the number to one to which you wish to connect; and you can specify both username and password there with smb://username:password@host
[04:18] <ciacon> hi all - I managed to brick STRIGI - can anyone give me some help/advice
[04:18] <ciacon> ?
[04:18] <usamahashimi> WaltzingAlong: lemme check
[04:19] <WaltzingAlong> ciacon: which issue with strigi?
[04:19] <WaltzingAlong> i_want_kde_4: sorry, not really the place for that. maybe in #kde
[04:19] <usamahashimi> WaltzingAlong: its still asking for password and not accepting my password
[04:19] <pacman> anyone have good knowledge of ktorrent
[04:19] <WaltzingAlong> usamahashimi: ok i would guess an issue on the server side
[04:20] <i_want_kde_4> k thanks 4 ur time i appreaciate it WaltzingAlong u rock! =P
[04:20] <WaltzingAlong> cheers and good luck with kde4!
[04:20] <i_want_kde_4> if u need anything just aks bro :)
[04:20] <Rukus> WaltzingAlong: so we should infer that my card is operating correctly?
[04:20] <Rukus> even tho it tells me it is not?
[04:20] <usamahashimi> WaltzingAlong: but all other windows machines can access each other without any problem?
[04:20] <WaltzingAlong> ha really up to you
[04:21] <WaltzingAlong> usamahashimi: then i suppose you ruled out server error
[04:21] <WaltzingAlong> !samba
[04:21] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:21] <ciacon> WaltzingAlong: I built the DB - which sounds good, but an Index the size of 1,8GB seemed odd - anyway - I restarted my box and now it tells me, "Documents indexed  -1" and "Unique words indexed  -1"... how can I re-init the DB??
[04:21] <usamahashimi> WaltzingAlong: thanks, lemme check these
[04:21] <WaltzingAlong> ciacon: are the files in ~/.strigi ?
[04:21] <ciacon> WaltzingAlong: yup
[04:22] <WaltzingAlong> ciacon: could delete ~/.strigi   (or move it elsewhere ~/.strigi_broken)
[04:22] <Rukus> what the hell. glxgears runs fast then slow, as my cpu fan gets loud to quiet. why no consistincy?
[04:22] <WaltzingAlong> demand based throttling?
[04:23] <Rukus> i have no idea
[04:23] <Rukus> probably some kind of power saving feature
[04:23] <homercycles> WaltzingAlong: just wanted to say thank you very much for your help. your suggestion to use qtparted worked a treat. I am now busily backing up my hard drives. :-)
[04:23] <ciacon> WaltzingAlong: that did the trick - it's re-indexing - but is an index of 1,8GB on 400GB home-dir ok?
[04:23] <WaltzingAlong> homercycles: great :D glad you did not lose any of the data
[04:24] <homercycles> WaltzingAlong: you've rekindled my appreciation for Linux (and the Linux community) today. Thanks again. Bye
[04:24] <WaltzingAlong> cheers bud ;)
[04:24] <WaltzingAlong> ciacon: something to redirect to #strigi ?
[04:25] <WaltzingAlong> personally not using 'desktop search' nor strigi at this time
[04:25] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know why Gutsy has broken the xpad360 driver?
[04:28] <ciacon> WaltzingAlong: let's see...
[04:28] <ciacon> WaltzingAlong: thanks anyway
[04:29] <posingaspopular> how do i configure konversation so when i close it, it will go to the task bar and not kill the app completly
[04:30] <posingaspopular> is it 'enable system tray?'
[04:30] <genii> enable system tray
[04:31] <posingaspopular> ah okay. thanks genii
[04:31] <Rukus> Well, reflection looks so cool, but i guess i just cannot run it on my computer
[04:31] <Rukus> maybe i shall try reinstalling
[04:31] <genii> Well  I'm just looking at that myself to see if it works LOL
[04:32] <Rukus> WaltzingAlong: i use the proprietary driver, with xserver-xgl  apparently its the best for the xpress 200m, is that an ok setup tho?
[04:32] <Chase> hey. I'm having some major problems with apt-get update and just about anything else that has to do with downloading anything through konsole. Can anyone help?
[04:34] <Chase> anyone?
[04:34] <maduser> whats the problem?
[04:35] <Chase> When I try to use apt-get for anything (automatix for example) I get tons of 404 errors and nothing downloads correctly
[04:35] <maduser> let me see
[04:36] <maduser> hmmm
[04:37] <Chase> are you getting my messages?
[04:37] <maduser> ?
[04:37] <Chase> or do I have to do them in the main window because I am unregistered
[04:37] <maduser> open a query
[04:37] <maduser> yeah
[04:37] <maduser> register
[04:38] <Chase> sorry. I'm new to IRC
[04:38] <maduser> yo automatix is not apperaring in adept
[04:38] <maduser> so
[04:39] <maduser> i don't think that program exists
[04:39] <astro76> !automatix
[04:39] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[04:40] <maduser> yeah
[04:40] <maduser> thats why
[04:40] <Chase> I just installed kubuntu (used ubuntu before) and had similar issues.
[04:40] <Chase> downloading wise
[04:40] <Chase> not just automatix
[04:40] <maduser> are using the program adept?
[04:40] <Chase> I need to see if I can get those errors again
[04:40] <Chase> yeah
[04:41] <maduser> did you install java yet?
[04:41] <Chase> no
[04:41] <raylu> Chase, if apt is giving you 404 errors
[04:41] <Chase> fresh install
[04:41] <raylu> it's probably because it's having trouble accessing the pages via HTTP
[04:41] <raylu> can you view pages in firefox/konqueror?
[04:41] <Chase> yep
[04:42] <raylu> o.0
[04:42] <Ahmuck> is there a reason that kubuntu firefox "sudo aptitude install firefox" requires so much krap?
[04:42] <raylu> does apt-get update work?
[04:42] <Chase> but I'm having another weird occurance. Now that I connected to IRC, things are starting to download correctly
[04:42] <raylu> Ahmuck, like what?
[04:42] <raylu> Chase, at my university, we have to authorize with the network before we can download anything, so i get similar errors from apt
[04:42] <Ahmuck> seriously, like ubuntu, gnome, etc.  the list was super duper long, and this is the first package on a default install
[04:42] <maduser> try downloadinf sun-java6-jre and sun-java-plugin
[04:43] <Chase> ah
[04:43] <maduser> try downloadinf sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-plugin
[04:43] <Ahmuck> for example "software sources" and "add/remove programs" all from ubuntu
[04:43] <raylu> Ahmuck, were those to-be-installed or held back?
[04:43] <Ahmuck> to be installed
[04:43] <raylu> Ahmuck, for an update or just firefox?
[04:43] <Ahmuck> kubuntu needs to really look at package management "depends" that ubuntu is doing
[04:43] <Ahmuck> yes, just the install for firefox
[04:43] <raylu> it wasn't that long for me
[04:44] <raylu> kubuntu and ubuntu use the same package management
[04:44] <Ahmuck> yes, and i am beggining to see a problem with it :-(
[04:44] <raylu> oh, firefox is gtk, so you'll need a little less on ubuntu I guess
[04:44] <raylu> what's the problem?
[04:44] <Ahmuck> i don't need all the *buntu stuff, just firefox.  it's not really all that hard.
[04:44] <raylu> lol
[04:45] <raylu> you didn't get all the ubuntu stuff
[04:45] <raylu> you do need gtk, though
[04:45] <raylu> which in turn requires it's own list of dependencies
[04:45] <Ahmuck> but i hate to build something i already have a package for unless the package requires all the other packages in the known universe -- sheesh
[04:45] <raylu> huh?
[04:45] <raylu> you never need to build anything
[04:45] <maduser> you need gtk for a ton of other stuff
[04:45] <raylu> especially if you already have the package installed
[04:46] <Ahmuck> yes, a "megaton" of other stuff, which, again, i don't understand why.  it's firefox
[04:46] <raylu> ...
[04:46] <raylu> ok, you're not making sense anymore; who are you talking to and what are you talking about?
[04:47] <Ahmuck> well, that and currently some of the "update" packages break the package manager
[04:47] <raylu> and what does building have to do with any of this?
[04:47] <Ahmuck> anyhow, i need to do some fixing, so i'll stop griping
[04:47] <raylu> what update packages? no package has ever broken my manager.
[04:47] <Ahmuck> cause i would get a lot less krap if i built it
[04:47] <raylu> i've had connection problems while downloading, but that's the closest i've gotten - and apt resumed the download too
[04:47] <Ahmuck> or maybe that is urap
[04:47] <raylu> no, the packages are pre-built. downloading those is always less work
[04:47] <fyrmedic> I have a networking problem. I can connect to the internet but can't ssh to computers on my own network. Any ideas?
[04:48] <Ahmuck> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:48] <Ahmuck> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:48] <Ahmuck> !lock
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <Ahmuck> !aptitude
[04:48] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[04:48] <Ahmuck> !dpkg
[04:48] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[04:48] <raylu> Ahmuck, _is_ another process using it?
[04:48] <raylu> fyrmedic, how are you confirming that those computers have ssh running?
[04:49] <Ahmuck> raylu: i killed the process just now and am dpkg --configure -a
[04:50] <Ahmuck> for example, why does firefox need docbook
[04:51] <fyrmedic> raylu: I have had no problem connecting to them in the past. I have 2 computers that I should be able to ssh into. I am trying to connect from a laptop that I can only log into via command.
[04:51] <raylu> Ahmuck, it doesn't i don't see that in the dependencies
[04:52] <raylu> fyrmedic, try sshing to themselves. then, check /etc/sshd_config to make sure that the sshd allows external connections
[04:53] <maduser> why would usamahashimi use kopete over Konversation?
[04:53] <maduser> usnless he does not have Konversation
[04:54] <fyrmedic> raylu: I can't even ping any of the computers on my network from the laptop. But I can ping outside url's and ssh.
[04:54] <angel> !er
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about er - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <raylu> it could be an issue with the laptops; they may be blocking connections via a firewall or similar
[04:54] <maduser> can you see thier ips?
[04:55] <inaety> whenever i try to run "mysql -u root" it returns that i am denied as root and/or normal users
[04:55] <genii> run mysql as user mysql
[04:56] <angel> inaety:try        mysql -p root
[04:56] <inaety> genii: it gives me access denied
[04:56] <inaety> angel: it asks me for a password, then denies me
[04:59] <genii> su mysql -c mysql
[04:59] <genii> password mysql
[05:00] <fyrmedic> raylu: It appears that sshd is listening for outside connects. Any other ideas.
[05:00] <genii> might need sudo su <etc as before>
[05:00] <inaety> genii: it says -c is unknown
[05:01] <inaety> option
[05:02] <inaety> genii, the sudo su worked
[05:02] <vbgunz> anyone know of a way to create a shortcut to a program that will launch the program along with all parameters and options **but** kill it first if in case it is already running?
[05:03] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  may have to do a bit-o-shell-scripting for that.
[05:03] <vbgunz> I can do this with a script but prefer something else e.g., oneinstance program --options
[05:04] <Dr_willis> ive never seen an oneinstance program :)
[05:04] <Dr_willis> would be handy however.. so someone proberly made such a thing
[05:04] <genii> inaety: mysql cannot be run as any other user other than user named mysql
[05:04] <vbgunz> heh, yeah, I am convinced it probably exists a hundred times over, I just don't know of a single one :/
[05:04] <Dr_willis> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/programming-9/creating-single-instance-linux-application-256693/
[05:05] <Dr_willis> is the first hit that looks good on that vbgunz  :) reading it now
[05:05] <vbgunz> sweet find
[05:05]  * genii sips his beer
[05:05] <inaety> genii, okay so how do i fix this "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)"
[05:06] <genii> inaety: Don't login as root. login as user mysql. Default password is ALSO mysql
[05:06] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  but its more of a 'how do i make a c program do this' Not a general for any program
[05:06] <inaety> genii: so mysql -u mysql?
[05:07] <vbgunz> I cannot imagine it being too hard to do. create a simple python script to do it. just curious if it already exists. I like to reinvent squares :)
[05:07] <genii> inaety: exactly, yes
[05:08] <inaety> genii: "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mysql'@'localhost' (using password: NO)"
[05:08] <genii> use -p switch to make it password-prompt then put mysql ass password
[05:08] <genii> *ass
[05:08]  * genii sips beer
[05:08] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  aha.. google for 'bash single instance' rather then linux single instance. :) got a lot better hits
[05:08] <Dr_willis> http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/25207-single-instance.html
[05:09] <genii> Dr_willis: Nice find
[05:09] <inaety> genii: mysql -p mysql?
[05:09] <inaety> that asks me for a password
[05:09] <inaety> so put mysql
[05:09] <genii> yes
[05:09] <inaety> and it denies me as my user (inaety@localhost)
[05:10] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  also  http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/18137-run-processes-sequentially.html
[05:10] <genii> mysql -u mysql -p mysql
[05:10] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  has a sample script that sort of does it with a lock file
[05:10] <inaety> genii: "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'mysql'@'localhost' (using password: YES)"
[05:10] <genii> also sometimes need to use local ip 127.0.0.1 instead of "localhost"
[05:11] <vbgunz> very cool am going to look them over. if I have some luck with them I will definitely thank you for your time :)
[05:11] <Dr_willis> my google-fu is strong..
[05:11] <Dr_willis> and  needed a break from playing  BioShock...
[05:11] <Dr_willis>  the game was creeping me out...
[05:11] <Dr_willis> :P
[05:11] <genii> google-fu
[05:12]  * genii giggles
[05:14] <genii> eg: -h 127.0.0.1
[05:14] <inaety> genii: why does it say that is using a password now?
[05:14] <ignoramus> anyone ever have problems with gmail on
[05:14] <Ahmuck> http://www.pastebin.org/9179
[05:14] <ignoramus> firefox?
[05:15] <genii> inaety: -p means use password
[05:15] <Ahmuck> raylu - requirements for firefox from aptitude - http://www.pastebin.org/9179
[05:15] <ignoramus> I click on my mail, it tries to load, and then says there;s a script thats not responding...
[05:16] <genii> inaety: perhaps try      mysql -u mysql -p -h 127.0.0.1 mysql
[05:16] <raylu> Ahmuck, those may have been leftover from a previous install
[05:16] <ignoramus> my mail never opens, but it reads as "read" after i click on it
[05:16] <raylu> i have:
[05:16] <Ahmuck> na, those are for a new install for firefox
[05:16] <Ahmuck> brand new system
[05:16] <raylu> fontconfig, psmisc, debianutils (>= 1.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.13.2), libc6 (>= 2.6-1), libcairo2 (>= 1.4.0),
[05:16] <raylu>          libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.5), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.2.1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.14.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>=
[05:16] <raylu>          2.12.0), libhunspell-1.1-0 (>= 1.1.5-1), libjpeg62, libnspr4-0d (>= 1.8.0.10), libnss3-0d (>= 1.8.0.10), libpango1.0-0
[05:16] <raylu>          (>= 1.18.2), libstdc++6 (>= 4.2.1), libx11-6, libxcomposite1 (>= 1:0.3-1), libxcursor1 (> 1.1.2), libxdamage1 (>=
[05:16] <raylu>          1:1.1), libxext6, libxfixes3 (>= 1:4.0.1), libxft2 (> 2.1.1), libxi6, libxinerama1, libxrandr2 (>= 2:1.2.0),
[05:16] <Ahmuck> something is like, really broke there if i need docbook for firefox
[05:16] <raylu>          libxrender1, libxt6, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-1)
[05:17] <raylu> oops =\
[05:17] <genii> !paste | raylu
[05:17] <ubotu> raylu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:17] <raylu> yeah, i pasted it into a pastebin and didn't copy the url
[05:19] <inaety> genii: same error...
[05:19] <genii> inaety: Bah. I apologise but am unable to assist further at this time
[05:20]  * genii goes off in search of more beer
[05:20] <genii> man mysqladmin may be a bit enlightening
[05:23] <inaety> genii: mesqladmin??
[05:23] <inaety> my*
[05:23] <genii> yes
[05:23] <genii> you caqn change passwordss there, add databases, etc etc
[05:24] <genii> typos. Bleh
[05:24] <maduser> is there spell check in Konversation?
[05:25] <genii> not that I'm aware of
[05:26] <maduser> like some kind of command
[05:26] <Ahmuck> found the problem.  aptitude installs firefox/ubifox ... which is an intergration with apt, and requires synaptic which requires docbook, i suspect
[05:27] <Ahmuck> however if you aptitude remove firefox, it does not remove synaptic ... which might be a blessing for ubuntu users but is screwed up for kubuntu users, as kubuntu users already has a nice adept to work with
[05:27] <maduser> !synaptic
[05:27] <Ahmuck> ubuntu needs to seperate firefox from ubifox and let those peeps that want ubifox install ubifox
[05:27] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[05:28] <Ahmuck> all this intergration bothers me
[05:28] <Ahmuck> all i want is an os, and a desktop, i'll pick and choose my apps.  i understand the whole koffice, kgroupware thingy, afterall it is kde
[05:30] <maduser> what does the k stand for or is it just the K desktop enviroment?
[05:30] <Ahmuck> early on kde used to name all thier apps Ksomeapp for the big K
[05:30] <Ahmuck> the K stands for KDE
[05:30] <LazyStudent> ah yes, recursive acronyms... sometimes they're funny, but I wish I knew why it was K in the first place
[05:30] <Ahmuck> ah, yes ... good question, wonder if it is on kde's homepage
[05:30] <sdlvx_> theys hould make a buntu which is just a super basic version of linux with access to the ubuntu repos
[05:31] <sdlvx_> that would be elite
[05:31] <LazyStudent> that would be Debian ;)
[05:31] <Ahmuck> well, they do sorta.  it's called ubuntu server
[05:31] <LazyStudent> (kidding)
[05:31] <Ahmuck> then you can install kde on top of it or the kubuntu desktop
[05:31] <Ahmuck> LazyStudent: actually you are quite right
[05:31] <sdlvx_> i had one and I installed KDE, GNOME, and XFCE
[05:31] <maduser> could it mean kernal desktop enviroment?
[05:31] <LazyStudent> I doubt it
[05:31] <sdlvx_> i did not know this about ubuntu server, I will have to look at it osmetime
[05:31] <sdlvx_> i think it actually means Kool
[05:32] <LazyStudent> oh god
[05:32] <LazyStudent> that's bad
[05:32] <maduser> the kernal is what kde is built on
[05:32] <LazyStudent> they have to cross that out of history
[05:32] <LazyStudent> "Kool Desktop Environment" sucks
[05:32] <Ahmuck> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-faq&m=99670886427221&w=2
[05:32] <maduser> killer desktop enviroment?
[05:33] <sdlvx_> http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/KDE
[05:33] <LazyStudent> the release cycle is a bit hectic for me -- everytime I burn a CD, it seems that I barely have a chance to use it before there's a new version
[05:33] <LazyStudent> haven't quite yet got it installed on this laptop and it's annoying me
[05:33] <maduser> 18 months
[05:33] <LazyStudent> I think I've settled on Kubuntu
[05:33] <LazyStudent> dunno why they like GNOME better; it's okay but I prefer K as my desktop
[05:33] <maduser> i don't think the kool one is raefering to linux
[05:34] <Ahmuck> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE
[05:34] <sdlvx_> http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1823/170/1600/kde-note.png
[05:35] <LazyStudent> so
[05:35] <LazyStudent> this is a 7.04 CD I'm running
[05:35] <Ahmuck> His initial Usenet post spurred a lot of interest, and the KDE project was born.[1] The name KDE was intended as a word play on the existing Common Desktop Environment, available for Unix systems. CDE was an X11-based user environment jointly developed by HP, IBM, and Sun, through the X/Open Company, with an interface and productivity tools based on the Motif graphical widget toolkit
[05:35] <LazyStudent> is it worth just downloading the 7.10 ISO and installing that from scratch?
[05:35] <sdlvx_> i did the upgrade
[05:35] <LazyStudent> ah yes, I remember reading about CDE
[05:35] <sdlvx_> and it blew up and I had to do fix it with dpkg
[05:36] <Ahmuck> heh, sometimes i think that 7.04 was a step forward and 7.10 was a step back
[05:36]  * genii apt-get installs cde
[05:36] <LazyStudent> lol I've read cautions about upgrading
[05:36] <sdlvx_> when I first upgraded I was pretty upset
[05:36] <LazyStudent> what's wrong with Gutsy?
[05:36] <sdlvx_> it uninstalled a lot of stuff I installed on my own
[05:36] <maduser> komonon desktop enviroment?
[05:36] <LazyStudent> you're kidding? A version of Linux that decides what programs to remove for you? Argh
[05:36] <LazyStudent> package managers are good but this is would worries me
[05:36] <LazyStudent> what*
[05:37] <sdlvx_> aptitude went nuts =/
[05:37] <maduser> its like windows upgrade
[05:37] <sdlvx_> lol
[05:37] <LazyStudent> I'm already annoyed with the seemingly often number of crashes
[05:37] <sdlvx_> it worked and I didn't have to reinstall the OS
[05:37] <LazyStudent> for Adept/Apt
[05:37] <LazyStudent> locked database
[05:37] <sdlvx_> but it was not as easy as I would like
[05:37] <sdlvx_> adept seems to like to crash my whole X
[05:37] <sdlvx_> right when it's installing packages
[05:37] <LazyStudent> lol
[05:38] <fscodelaro> hi everyone, i have a quick question, i just did a fresh install of kubuntu gutsy and after installing some gtk applications i kind of lost the qt look of gnome... e.g. kontact looks as if i installed it in gnome, it doesnt have the great kde look... anyone knows about this? i dont know what exact library caused this because i installed many things today
[05:38] <sdlvx_> it's probably my fault for running the ATI 7.11 driver and compiz fusion from GIT
[05:38] <LazyStudent> yeah, I've been noticing a lot of random stalling with Ubuntu... which is a shame really
[05:38] <LazyStudent> I'm trying to give Linux a chance
[05:38]  * genii is reminded of the song "Give Peace a Chance"
[05:39] <maduser> never heard it
[05:39] <sdlvx_> before I started loading up GIT programs I never really had many problems
[05:39] <sdlvx_> wasn't that john lennon?
[05:39] <LazyStudent> ugh, yeah, I need the ATI Radeon drivers for this old 2004 laptop, and the nVidia Geforce 4 ones for my desktop -- if I'm even gonna get around to installing it on that one... I kept trying to, but it freezes half-way. I think I need to do something about the desktop CPU overheating.
[05:39] <LazyStudent> lol
[05:40] <sdlvx_> is it overclocked or something?
[05:40] <LazyStudent> ah yes, "Imagine no possessions... [I'm rich!]@
[05:40] <sdlvx_> you should take the fan off the heatsink, I bet it's clogged
[05:40]  * maduser wonders how mankind will destroy themeselves
[05:40] <LazyStudent> (argh keep forgetting to set it to UK keyboard)
[05:40] <LazyStudent> I keep trying to clean it
[05:40] <LazyStudent> already replaced the grease once
[05:41] <sdlvx_> i took it off and washed it
[05:41] <LazyStudent> probably need to do that again
[05:41] <sdlvx_> lol
[05:41] <maduser> i have to repalce my entire keyboard
[05:41] <maduser> for a labtop
[05:41] <sdlvx_> i just bought a zalman 9500 and now I don't have to worry about it anymore
[05:41] <LazyStudent> Zalman?
[05:41] <sdlvx_> it's an aftermarket cooler
[05:41] <sdlvx_> I'm an avid overclocker
[05:41] <LazyStudent> ah yes
[05:41] <LazyStudent> I'm not lol
[05:41] <Ahmuck> maduser: with GMO food and bioweapons
[05:41] <maduser> overcloking on linux?
[05:41] <LazyStudent> wouldn't want to fry this old laptop beast, anyway
[05:41] <sdlvx_> I have an opteron 165 OCed to 2.91Ghz
[05:41]  * genii cracks another bottle of beer
[05:41] <mzanfardino> looking for suggestions for where I can get additional fonts.
[05:41] <sdlvx_> best 100 dollars I spent in my life
[05:42] <genii> opteron are nice
[05:42] <Ahmuck> maduser: well, that and trying to mess with the atmosphere
[05:42] <LazyStudent> what do you mean, overclocking on Linux? There are SOME games, lol
[05:42] <LazyStudent> actually I've been meaning to look at some FOSS games
[05:42] <Ahmuck> mzanfardino: like ms fonts?
[05:42]  * maduser Ahmuck the crab people
[05:42] <genii> my one work box has dual opteron 165 in fact
[05:42] <LazyStudent> who can recommend a good FOSS game?
[05:43] <LazyStudent> lemme guess, something based on Quake or UT engines?
[05:43] <LazyStudent> there must be more 3D engines than that
[05:43] <mzanfardino> Ahmuck: not specifically, just more than what comes as default with Kubuntu.  I'm checking apt-cache search xfonts- and see 112 fonts to select from, but many are simply foreign language fonts.
[05:43] <Ahmuck> try kubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:43] <Ahmuck> downloads a lot of ms fonts
[05:43] <sdlvx_> tremulous is good
[05:43] <LazyStudent> think I've heard of that
[05:43] <sdlvx_> it's an FPS
[05:44] <sdlvx_> I play it every now and then
[05:44] <Ahmuck> mzanfardino: you can use ttf fonts as well if you search google
[05:44] <LazyStudent> in the freedomware games fest
[05:44] <LazyStudent> any non-FPS games?
[05:45] <maduser> why does times new roman cost money?
[05:45] <sdlvx_> there's a lot of nice non-hardcore games
[05:45] <sdlvx_> WINE + STEAM
[05:45] <sdlvx_> maybe?
[05:45] <LazyStudent> lol, because fonts are protected by IP stuff
[05:45] <LazyStudent> you can get free fonts, and lots of them
[05:45] <LazyStudent> but apparently they're "not quite so good"
[05:45] <LazyStudent> pah
[05:46] <LazyStudent> I'd just use the Windows ones
[05:46] <LazyStudent> never tried though
[05:46] <LazyStudent> this default font set doesn't seem too bad
[05:46] <LazyStudent> still on the LiveCD
[05:46] <LazyStudent> I watched an entire programme about bloody Helvetica the other day.
[05:46] <mzanfardino> Ahmuck: I already have the extra's installed.  There are also quite a few ttf fonts available from apt-get, but again the bulk of which appear to be specific to individual languages
[05:47] <LazyStudent> seriously, an hour about a single font
[05:47] <mzanfardino> Ahmuck: I guess I will search google next.
[05:47] <LazyStudent> guess what channel it was one? Yup, BBC4 in the UK. I'm happy to pay my annual licence fee for the BBC to devote entire programmes to fonts. Pah. Not really.
[05:48] <mzanfardino> LazyStudent: yes, I have heard about the IP issues with fonts... I guess I was hoping there were more FOSS fonts out there.
[05:48] <LazyStudent> there's got to be
[05:48] <LazyStudent> surely?
[05:48] <mzanfardino> LazyStudent: I'm sure there are... and don't call me shirley
[05:48] <mzanfardino> :)
[05:48] <LazyStudent> lol
[05:48] <sdlvx_> there are sites with a good number of free fonts
[05:48] <ardchoille> lol
[05:49] <sdlvx_> i remember because I wanted the death note font
[05:49] <sdlvx_> when the L comes on the screen
[05:49] <sdlvx_> and I looked forever for it
[05:49] <sdlvx_> and everyone wanted me to buy it
[05:49] <sdlvx_> and I found a website that had it for free, but it wasn't a warez site or anything
[05:49] <mzanfardino> sdlvx_: you happen to recall the site?
[05:49] <sdlvx_> I don't remember what it was though
[05:49] <sdlvx_> I can look again
[05:49] <LazyStudent> can anyone advise me about what best to do with my NTFS partition? I've been reading that ntfs-3g is pretty good, but is it still worth setting aside a small shared FAT32 part?
[05:50] <sdlvx_> I have a 400GB external drive formatted as NTFS and I always use NTFS-3g and I haven't had any problems
[05:50] <LazyStudent> I think that idea sounds a bit ugly
[05:50] <LazyStudent> the FAT one
[05:50] <LazyStudent> ah, good
[05:50] <LazyStudent> I might just do that
[05:50] <LazyStudent> no Windows crap?
[05:50] <sdlvx_> I had this drive before I got started on linux
[05:51] <sdlvx_> I use XP on my desktop because it's my gaming machine
[05:51] <ardchoille> LazyStudent: There are some of us who have never used NTFS. I threw Windows away back in 2001 when I discovered Linux, and I haven't used Windows since.
[05:51] <LazyStudent> is it still best to install Windows first these days, anyway? How it "likes to be first" and all that?
[05:51] <LazyStudent> lol, I would love to do the same Ardchoille
[05:52] <LazyStudent> but I'll probably still require "a bit of Windows" for some time
[05:52] <ardchoille> LazyStudent: You can install Windows first, but if you install Linux first, you'll just have to re-do your grub boot loder
[05:52] <LazyStudent> would rather not mess around with GRUB just yet, it's a bit messy for me
[05:52] <ardchoille> !grub
[05:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:52] <ardchoille> ok
[05:52] <LazyStudent> btw how can you make GRUB look better, like the PNG background or whatever it is in OpenSuSE?
[05:52] <LazyStudent> I hate the plain text
[05:52] <LazyStudent> on a modern computer
[05:53] <Evil_`> I <3 apt-get makes things so much easier lol
[05:53] <LazyStudent> yeah I like packmans
[05:53] <LazyStudent> (I mean package managers not Packman itself)
[05:54] <LazyStudent> I'm surprised Ubuntu doesn't "prettify" GRUB by default
[05:54] <LazyStudent> like it's splash screens
[05:54] <LazyStudent> its*
[05:54] <ardchoille> Well, you don't really need to reboot Linux unless you're messing with kernels.. some folks I know haven't rebooted in a year.. so they don't care about the grub screen.
[05:54] <LazyStudent> I know, I know
[05:55] <ere4si> there is a howto in the forums for adding a pic to the grub screen
[05:55] <LazyStudent> but, having said that I am experiencing a lot of serious crashes... Maybe with my next proper installation that won't happen as much
[05:55] <LazyStudent> I couldn't even get to the console a couple of times
[05:56] <LazyStudent> I wasn't even doing anything intensive
[05:56] <LazyStudent> I'm thinking it's a driver issue
[05:56] <sdlvx_> maduser I am not registered yet
[05:56] <sdlvx_> http://www.fontstock.net/
[05:56] <sdlvx_> that is the site
[05:56] <Evil_`> apt-get is so awesome, It downloaded the jdk, installed it, and set the environmental variables lol
[05:56] <sdlvx_> it has old english text
[05:56] <LazyStudent> do you still need to install ATI/nVidia drivers yourself, with Edgy and Gutsy?
[05:57] <sdlvx_> Lazy I would SUggest installing ATI drivers yourself
[05:57] <LazyStudent> so they've finally included the GPL'd Java stuff?
[05:57] <LazyStudent> that's good
[05:57] <sdlvx_> the new version supports AIGLX albeit not the greatest
[05:57] <LazyStudent> stupid Sun for waiting so long
[05:58] <LazyStudent> I'm hoping that Beryl will work with a 64MB Radeon Mobility 7000 laptop card
[05:58] <LazyStudent> I've heard good stories about it
[05:59] <LazyStudent> or is it just Compiz now? I can't remember
[05:59] <sdlvx_> http://www.fontstock.net/10105/Old-English.html
[05:59] <LazyStudent> read about them merging
[05:59] <sdlvx_> it is now compiz fusion
[05:59] <sdlvx_> they merged
[05:59] <LazyStudent> right
[05:59] <sdlvx_> where did maduser go?
[05:59] <LazyStudent> to the abyss
[06:00] <LazyStudent> I'm learning Java but I don't like it much
[06:00] <LazyStudent> I still think it has its slowness to shake off
[06:00] <sdlvx> I agree
[06:00] <sdlvx> I am not a fan of java
[06:00] <LazyStudent> and besides, when you can make C as "portable" as with GTK and Qt, for example, why bother with a VM?
[06:01] <Evil_`> Ya, I dunno why I started with Java lol, but it was my first language
[06:01] <LazyStudent> I just dislike the LongMethodNameSyntax and the InstanceName
[06:01] <Evil_`> longMethodNameSyntax* <3
[06:01] <Evil_`> unless you mean C
[06:02] <Evil_`> then it may be capitalized /shrug
[06:02] <LazyStudent> InstanceName ObjectName = new ObjectName(); thing
[06:02] <Evil_`> ya
[06:02] <Evil_`> One thing I like about C++ is operator overloading lol
[06:02] <LazyStudent> much prefer JavaScript lol
[06:02] <LazyStudent> ah, C++
[06:02] <LazyStudent> the print << "Hello"
[06:02] <LazyStudent> that confuses me
[06:03] <Evil_`> ehhh
[06:03] <LazyStudent> why do you have to use << just to send a string to a function?
[06:03] <LazyStudent> I miss brackets
[06:03] <LazyStudent> I mean ()
[06:03] <biovore> its a stream..
[06:03] <biovore> printf("Hello");
[06:03] <LazyStudent> can't be bothered to type "parentheses"
[06:03] <biovore> not stream
[06:03] <LazyStudent> I see
[06:03] <Evil_`> cout << "Hello" << endl;
[06:03] <biovore> C/C++
[06:03] <LazyStudent> haven't learnt much C/C++ yet
[06:03] <LazyStudent> lol
[06:03] <LazyStudent> gotcha
[06:03] <Evil_`> Ya, I haven't really learned much
[06:03] <biovore> cout is a iostream class..  << is overloaded for a stream operator in that class
[06:04] <LazyStudent> why << and not >> then?
[06:04] <LazyStudent> is it a bitwise shift?
[06:04] <Evil_`> I don't see anything fun to do with C/++ on linux, on windows I always played around with game hacking :P
[06:04] <biovore> << output >> input
[06:04] <biovore> the << and >> only matter with iostream class members..
[06:04] <biovore> cout is a class
[06:04] <LazyStudent> ok
[06:04] <biovore> well a member function
[06:04] <LazyStudent> the difference?
[06:04] <biovore> the << and >> are overloaded for that class
[06:05] <Evil_`> ya, it still has ()
[06:05] <LazyStudent> I'm still trying to figure out what classes are. But I think the Java tutorial helped somewhat. Now I just have to learn what they mean in C++
[06:05] <biovore> that too.. I don't remember what the function is for that..
[06:05] <Evil_`> Classes are objects
[06:06] <Evil_`> C doesn't have classes
[06:06] <LazyStudent> why couldn't they just use "object.method" btw? object::method annoyes me a little -- or is it object->method?
[06:06] <shinda> hey was wondering anyone here on gutsy using kopete?
[06:06] <Evil_`> it has .
[06:06] <LazyStudent> ah
[06:06] <biovore> :: <-- name space
[06:06] <Evil_`> :: is for static functions, I believe
[06:06] <Evil_`> and namespaces
[06:06] <biovore> . <-- direct access
[06:06] <LazyStudent> right
[06:06] <biovore> ->  <-- inidrect access
[06:06] <Evil_`> I <3 ->
[06:06] <Evil_`> so awesome looking lol
[06:06] <LazyStudent> so there's a separation in C++, where there isn't in Java?
[06:06] <biovore> -> is for pointers
[06:06] <Evil_`> ya
[06:06] <Evil_`> dereferencing(sp?)
[06:06] <LazyStudent> why?
[06:07] <Evil_`> well
[06:07] <Evil_`> ya
[06:07] <Evil_`> like
[06:07] <Evil_`> Instance* i = new Instance();
[06:07] <Evil_`> i->sayHi();
[06:07] <Evil_`> I think
[06:07] <LazyStudent> pointer* syntax, got it
[06:08] <stdin> ##c < for C support  ##c++ for C++ support
[06:08] <LazyStudent> lol that's okay
[06:08] <LazyStudent> I won't ramble about C anymore
[06:08] <shinda> was wondering if anyone else had problems with kopete when chatting with msn clients and space characters not appearing
[06:09] <maduser> C is outdated and soon C++ will be to
[06:09] <maduser> new version comming out soon
[06:09] <LazyStudent> even C++?
[06:09] <biovore> yeah.. digital mars.. D
[06:09] <LazyStudent> the kernel developers don't think C is outdated
[06:09] <biovore> well C is good for quick and small..
[06:09] <biovore> can't beat it still..
[06:09] <LazyStudent> yup
[06:09] <maduser> yeah
[06:10] <LazyStudent> but most things on top of the kernel is C++, Java, Python, Qt/GTK... etc
[06:10] <shinda> hahaha am I hearing you guys right? C and c++ are out dated
[06:10] <LazyStudent> (mixed things there)
[06:10] <shinda> Qt is a c++ library
[06:10] <LazyStudent> I know
[06:10] <LazyStudent> just filling out
[06:10] <maduser> new version C++0x
[06:10] <stdin> "<stdin> ##c < for C support  ##c++ for C++ support"  you did see that, right?
[06:10] <LazyStudent> you're kidding?
[06:11] <shinda> GTK also libaries, pyhton and java well those are understandable
[06:11] <maduser> out before 2010
[06:11] <LazyStudent> what kinda name is that? C++ [HexValue]?
[06:11] <LazyStudent> (or would that be octal?)
[06:11] <maduser> ++ stands for an incramnt above C
[06:11] <LazyStudent> I know what ++ means
[06:11] <stdin> LazyStudent, maduser: take it to another channel, this is Kubuntu support
[06:11] <LazyStudent> but C++0x looks silly
[06:12] <Evil_`> lmao @ C += 2, that would be hillarious, last thing I say about it <3 lol
[06:12] <LazyStudent> sorry
[06:12] <LazyStudent> stdin
[06:13] <maduser> lets take this to offtopic
[06:13] <LazyStudent> nah
[06:13] <Evil_`> I WILL
[06:13] <LazyStudent> dried it up now
[06:13] <LazyStudent> lol
[06:13] <LazyStudent> I "lol" too much
[06:13] <Evil_`> everyone does
[06:13] <ardchoille> lol
[06:14] <LazyStudent> so how's Debian these days? Is it as "polished", or still not for the average desktop? I can see why Ubuntu picked up the baton
[06:14] <maduser> what does that stand for lots of laughs?
[06:14] <ardchoille> maduser: Yes
[06:14] <LazyStudent> "lonely obsessive laughing"
[06:15] <stdin> hmm, still off topic
[06:15] <maduser> ha
[06:15] <mzanfardino> what about ttf-xfree86 fonts?  since we are using X and not xfree86, I correct in assuming that installing these packages won't add any usable fonts?
[06:15] <LazyStudent> don't kick us please
[06:15] <stdin> then stay on topic :)
[06:15] <LazyStudent> hah, I best go then
[06:15] <maduser> but no ones asking questions
[06:15] <LazyStudent> although, I have one "RTFM" question
[06:15] <maduser> ok
[06:16]  * mzanfardino asking question
[06:16] <LazyStudent> I was a bit surprised when, after my USB 54g adapter worked perfectly first time in Kubuntu (better than Windows XP, which wouldn't even let me install the drivers from the bloody disc because it's being strange lately)
[06:17] <LazyStudent> well, my old PCMCIA 11b card wasn't detected at all
[06:17] <LazyStudent> wonder if my new 56g one will be
[06:17] <LazyStudent> bloody AddonTech
[06:18] <LazyStudent> got it 'cos it was only #14 at Maplins (argh dunno where the GBP symbol has gone, cbb to change kb settings)
[06:18] <LazyStudent> hmph
[06:18] <LazyStudent> looks like I have to actually have to install something for this one too
[06:18] <LazyStudent> :(
[06:18] <ardchoille> !enter | LazyStudent
[06:18] <ubotu> LazyStudent: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:18] <LazyStudent> hopefully it'll work right?
[06:19] <Evil_`> Does everyone have access to ubotu?
[06:19] <LazyStudent> I was trying to avoid it Ard, but my thought pattern was broken
[06:19] <LazyStudent> it's not really that busy in here
[06:19] <ere4si> !ping
[06:19] <ubotu> pong
[06:20] <stdin> Evil_`: everyone can access the factoids and everyone can submit factoids, only editors can add them tho
[06:20] <Evil_`> Ah, ok, thanks :)
[06:20] <LazyStudent> has anyone in here also bought a cheap Addon-Tech PCMCIA Wireless G card?
[06:20] <angel> !ping
[06:20] <ubotu> pong
[06:21] <LazyStudent> I don't wanna have to go with ndiswrapper
[06:21] <maduser> !pong
[06:21] <ubotu> pong is an old atari game. It's fun!
[06:21] <stdin> !botabuse
[06:21] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[06:21] <LazyStudent> I was hoping that it would be as easy as the USB wifi was
[06:22] <LazyStudent> anyone?
[06:22] <maduser> hmmm
[06:23] <LazyStudent> it seems that PC cards aren't autodetected like USB
[06:23] <maduser> ndiswrapper may be your only choice for good wifi
[06:23] <LazyStudent> lol
[06:24] <LazyStudent> I might just use the USB stick in that case, and take the card back
[06:24] <LazyStudent> then again I can't do that either, because the downstairs computer needs it
[06:24] <LazyStudent> got a spare Netgear USB one but it's broken, unresponsive
[06:24] <maduser> sell it on ebay:)
[06:25] <ardchoille> !ot
[06:25] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:25] <LazyStudent> I was amazed when it picked up the USB wifi adapter
[06:25] <LazyStudent> and worked with WPA2 straightaway
[06:25] <LazyStudent> had to install an upgrade on a few people's WinXP laptops, just to deal with WPA2
[06:25] <maduser> ah
[06:25] <LazyStudent> nah I have a 14 day return period
[06:25] <LazyStudent> half-way through that
[06:26] <maduser> get it back soon
[06:26] <LazyStudent> yup
[06:26] <LazyStudent> if Maplin will take it, which they should do
[06:26] <LazyStudent> read the small print
[06:26] <LazyStudent> doesn't exclude wireless network stuff
[06:26] <maduser> fine print g2 read it
[06:26] <LazyStudent> only "disco equipment and software"
[06:26] <LazyStudent> etc
[06:26] <LazyStudent> made me laugh
[06:26] <maduser> disco eqipment
[06:26] <maduser> disco is dead
[06:27] <LazyStudent> there must be a few people going to Maplins just to buy lights and things
[06:27] <LazyStudent> for a weekend
[06:27] <LazyStudent> then returning them after a gig
[06:27] <maduser> old people
[06:27] <ardchoille> Please take the off-topic chatter to another channel.
[06:27] <LazyStudent> I am sorry
[06:27] <LazyStudent> yet again
[06:27] <angel> lazyStuden
[06:27] <LazyStudent> anyway
[06:27] <LazyStudent> I shall look online for Linux drivers
[06:27] <LazyStudent> and leave you in peace
[06:27] <maduser> lets go to offtopic
[06:27] <angel> lazyStudent Ya callateeeeeeee
[06:28] <LazyStudent> sounds like a chatup line maduser :P
[06:28] <LazyStudent> I can't talk back to you maduser, I'm unregistered and it's blocking me
[06:28] <Trek> greetings
[06:28] <maduser> register
[06:28] <LazyStudent> not yet
[06:28] <LazyStudent> bye for now
[06:29] <LazyStudent> 6:29am in the UK, might go to bed...
[06:29] <maduser>  see ya
[06:29] <ardchoille> LazyStudent , maduser You two could always join #maduser  or #LazyStudent
[06:29] <maduser> 1:28 here
[06:29] <LazyStudent> I thought of that
[06:29] <Evil_`> How do you install a .rpm file?
[06:29] <LazyStudent> bye quiet chan
[06:29] <stdin> !rpm | Evil_`
[06:29] <ubotu> Evil_`: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[06:29] <ardchoille> Evil_`: You don't
[06:30] <Evil_`> I see
[06:30] <ardchoille> Evil_`: Look for a .deb package that was made for Ubuntu
[06:30] <LazyStudent> I was gonna suggest Alien -- just how "dangerous" is it?
[06:30] <ardchoille> dangerous enough that we shouldn't use it
[06:30] <Evil_`> when I tried to apt-get alien, it said to put in the Kubuntu disc, will the livecd suffice?
[06:30] <LazyStudent> (never used it)
[06:31] <LazyStudent> you need to update your sources
[06:31] <ardchoille> Evil_`: You realise using alien is dangerous, right?
[06:31] <stdin> Evil_`: should, you could also just remove the cd line from your sources with adept
[06:31] <Evil_`> ah
[06:31] <Evil_`> What makes it dangerous?
[06:31] <Trek> is there a way to download a package on a another computer not running linux
[06:31] <LazyStudent> well, I presume you could just download the .deb file on whatever computer you wanted
[06:32] <LazyStudent> I think you mean cross-platform package managers though?
[06:32] <LazyStudent> Java ones for instance? Or Gtk/Qt ones?
[06:32] <LazyStudent> anyone?
[06:32] <ardchoille> Trek: You could do that provided you grab the deps too
[06:33] <stdin> "apt-get --print-uris install <package>" will print all the package you need to download
[06:33] <ere4si> finding the dependencies will be hard
[06:33] <LazyStudent> but they won't work on Windows or whatever anyway, unless they're compiled for Cygwin or whatever
[06:33] <Trek> I trying to get kubuntu-desktop package, but my ubuntu box doesn't have a internet connection, it doesn't even have a modem
[06:33] <LazyStudent> ah
[06:33] <ardchoille> ere4si: apt-cache show package  will show you the deps
[06:34] <ere4si> there you go then :)
[06:34] <stdin> ardchoille: but not the dependencies of the dependencies
[06:34] <ardchoille> stdin: Very good point
[06:34] <LazyStudent> so you just download everything separately, and then move it onto the target PC?
[06:34] <ardchoille> Trek: And that meta package will have a ton of deps
[06:34] <stdin> "apt-get --print-uris install <package>" will
[06:34] <LazyStudent> double dependencies now??
[06:35] <ardchoille> LazyStudent: Each dep can have deps of its own, and each of those deps too, and so on
[06:35] <LazyStudent> thought so
[06:35] <LazyStudent> I'm grateful for package managers and the huge repos
[06:35] <LazyStudent> otherwise it'll be too much to handle
[06:35] <LazyStudent> it'd*
[06:35] <stdin> like RPM based distros :p
[06:35] <LazyStudent> heh, read about "RPM Hell" to
[06:36] <LazyStudent> too*
[06:36] <LazyStudent> gotta be better than DLL hell though?
[06:36] <LazyStudent> or is it worse...?
[06:36] <Trek> sounds like it would be easier to convince my dad to finally get broadband
[06:36] <stdin> well, if you have a dll you know it's made for windows, you don't know what specific distro an rpm was made for
[06:37] <ardchoille> Trek: Indeed
[06:37] <LazyStudent> how would you upload the files to the PC anyway?
[06:37] <stdin> cd/dvd/usb
[06:37] <ardchoille> Trek: Or transport the box to an internet connection, do what you need, then take it back home
[06:37] <LazyStudent> on a USB flash drive or external HDD?
[06:37] <LazyStudent> thought so
[06:37] <LazyStudent> no I mean, if the box has Ethernet
[06:37] <LazyStudent> could network them
[06:38] <stdin> I'd assume if they had another PC with internet they'd just get a router...
[06:38] <LazyStudent> but if it doesn't have a modem it probably won't have ethernet right?
[06:38] <Trek> can you download paackages and save them to a USB Drive, maybe I can use a liveCD and do it that way
[06:38] <ubuntu__> I have a question about Kubuntu 7.10
[06:39] <LazyStudent> mm, I like routers... Might get rid of OpenWRT on my Linksys though, unexplained signal loss.
[06:39] <twylight> a channels importance is based on the number of members, the activity, number of IRCops and most importantly, can be determined my the number of http links in the topic
[06:39] <ubuntu__> I install it and when I try to install programs or do updates I get a commit error/break packages.
[06:39] <ubuntu__> How do I fix that?
[06:39] <ere4si> Trek: you can get a network card for $20...
[06:40] <LazyStudent> yeah, or a USB to Ethernet converter
[06:40] <Trek> the box has a NIC
[06:40] <LazyStudent> that's good
[06:40] <LazyStudent> just connect it then
[06:40] <Trek> it's just a pain to transport the box
[06:40] <LazyStudent> if both comps have them
[06:40] <BanisterKelly> Also when I did updates it said there was a version update nd I installed from a 7.10 CD.
[06:40] <LazyStudent> ah, how far away are they?
[06:40] <BanisterKelly> Can anyone help, please?
[06:41] <Trek> I only have dial-up internet
[06:41] <LazyStudent> might take a while to download it even if it was connected to the modem
[06:42] <Trek> how large is the kubuntu-desktop package
[06:42] <stdin> Trek: big
[06:42] <angel> trek: 400 mb +-
[06:42] <Trek> carp
[06:42] <ardchoille> Trek: Open a terminal and type this: apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop
[06:42] <Trek> i mean crap
[06:42] <twylight> parc
[06:42] <ardchoille> Trek: Look at the "Depends"
[06:43] <LazyStudent> lol
[06:43] <twylight> 2'99 a pack
[06:43] <LazyStudent> Adept says that kubuntu-desktop is 44K installed
[06:43] <stdin> a lot of those are in ubuntu-desktop too, it's the dependencies of those dependencies and their dependencies
[06:43] <twylight> they're really cheap now
[06:43] <LazyStudent> mustn't be counting deps then...
[06:43] <twylight> too many incontinents
[06:43] <BanisterKelly> What is meant about breaking packages?
[06:43] <Evil_`> Anyone know why when I start my computer, it says it can't allocate memory in resourse 7 then about 3 minutes later, kubuntu will start up?
[06:44] <stdin> Evil_`: because you have a non-standard proprietary BIOS
[06:44] <ardchoille> LazyStudent: kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package, it itself is empty, but it pulls in everything for a kde environment
[06:44] <LazyStudent> bye
[06:44] <LazyStudent> I gathered that, thanks Ard
[06:44] <Evil_`> stdin, what do you mean by that?
[06:44] <BanisterKelly> Did I ask a bad question?
[06:44] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: No
[06:45] <BanisterKelly> Why is no one answering?
[06:45] <ere4si> !patince
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patince - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <BanisterKelly> I shall sit back and wait.
[06:45] <BanisterKelly> My apology.
[06:45] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Noteveryone who is looking at their irc client right now knows every answer
[06:45] <Evil_`> Patience is a virtue.
[06:46] <stdin> Evil_`: it means that the BIOS (the bit of software that tells the OS about the hardware you have) does not use the standard way. so the kernel has to guess a bit
[06:46] <BanisterKelly> Patience is needed for computers and new OS'
[06:46] <twylight> <3 dmdfkz
[06:46] <Evil_`> Well, right now I have it to load the Disk drive first (because of the livecd) could that affect it at all?
[06:46] <stdin> Evil_`: it's not a huge problem, if it continues to boot then the kernel worked it out and doesn't care
[06:46] <Evil_`> k, I just find it abit annoying waiting 5 minutes lol
[06:47] <Evil_`> Solution: run computer 24/7
[06:47] <stdin> it's down to the maker of the BIOS not to be evil :p
[06:47] <Trek> livecd take a while to load, depending on the CD/DVD Drive
[06:47] <BanisterKelly> I had an old PC running 2 weeks in 98SE without a reboot/shutdown.
[06:47] <Evil_`> Trek, this is the OS itself, not the livecd
[06:47] <stdin> *cough* 06:47:46 up 29 days,  6:22,  3 users,  load average: 2.95, 2.62, 2.08
[06:48] <Evil_`> I actually didn't think it installed correctly, I've reinstalled Kubuntu about 4 times because I thought it did it wrong....but now I know it just takes a while
[06:48] <ardchoille> stdin: :)
[06:48] <Trek> WIN98... 2 weeks! Why? did you want to see if the computer would commit suicide
[06:48] <BanisterKelly> lol
[06:48] <Evil_`> LOL
[06:49] <BanisterKelly> No, actually I kept forgetting it was on.   lol  Used primarily for networking and sharing.
[06:51] <Evil_`> 1 really wicked awesome thing about conversation is doing [[ word]] without spaces
[06:51] <BanisterKelly> WHen installing, how big should the swap file be?
[06:52] <BanisterKelly> swap partition
[06:52] <raylu> BanisterKelly, how much ram do you have?
[06:52] <BanisterKelly> 384MB 1Ghz CPU
[06:52] <raylu> er...
[06:52] <stdin> BanisterKelly: and is it a laptop that you want to be able to hibernate with?
[06:52] <BanisterKelly> No, old Dell PC
[06:52] <BanisterKelly> Desktop pc
[06:53] <raylu> since when do laptops come with 384?
[06:53] <BanisterKelly> I won't mention my old Dell with 32MB, or is it 64?  lol
[06:53] <stdin> I usually recommend 1GB, just in case you want to make a DVD or do some graphics processing
[06:53] <raylu> i had a 64mb desktop :D
[06:53] <BanisterKelly> Nah, I don't do those stuff.
[06:53] <Trek> 1GB for swap, or just RAM
[06:53] <stdin> BanisterKelly: 512 should do then
[06:54] <raylu> how big is the harddrive?
[06:54] <BanisterKelly> I have an HP here I fool with that is max memory of 64MB.  lol
[06:54] <twylight> lol
[06:54] <BanisterKelly> I have 2 hard drives on here at 20GB each.
[06:55] <BanisterKelly> Also a DVD burner
[06:56] <Trek> when i set up ubuntu, I put 10GB for root, 15GB for home, 5GB swap.... was this a bad move
[06:56] <Trek> ????
[06:57] <raylu> o.0, that's a pretty big swap
[06:57] <stdin> 5GB swap? I doubt you need that
[06:57] <raylu> but otherwise, sounds reasonable. though, if you have only 30gb total, you probably would have been better off combining your root and home
[06:57] <ere4si> should still work - most of the swap won't be used but
[06:57] <stdin> unless you have 16KB ram
[06:57] <Trek> i wasn't sure how linux handled virual memory
[06:57] <stdin> better than windows
[06:58] <raylu> regardless, it uses approximately the same amount as windows. it doesn't need an extra 5 GB
[06:58] <Trek> I had a 1GB RAM
[06:58] <BanisterKelly> I install all one drive as / and the second drive as extra space and a swap partition.
[06:58] <raylu> is there a way to get konversation to load scripts or must I restart everytime?
[06:59] <raylu> the scripts are in ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/scripts
[06:59] <stdin> it looks for scripts when you put in a command
[06:59] <BanisterKelly> Should I check back later and re-ask my question?
[06:59] <raylu> it doesn't :P
[06:59] <stdin> /exec scriptname
[06:59] <stdin> if you havent set an alias
[07:00] <Trek> so i know for next time, what's a good formula for estimating the size of the swap partition
[07:00] <raylu> i haven't, and that doens't work
[07:00] <BanisterKelly> Good question Trek
[07:00] <stdin> Trek: about 1.5 - 2x RAM generally, tho the more ram the less swap you need
[07:00] <raylu> o.0
[07:00] <raylu> nevermind
[07:00] <Trek> thank you
[07:01] <raylu> so, what's wrong with this line?
[07:01] <raylu> dcop $PORT Konversation say $SERVER "ChanServ" "$1 $TARGET $2+"
[07:01] <raylu> assuming i've already shifted thrice?
[07:01] <stdin> so, if you have 4GB ram, you don't need 6-8GB swap :p
[07:02] <Trek> if you have that much RAM, why would you need a swap
[07:02] <stdin> raylu: 1 $PORT  is "konversation" so you don't need another "Konversation" after
[07:02] <BanisterKelly> Would you recomend or not recomend running Kubuntu on a 550Mhz PC with 384MB memory?
[07:02] <raylu> but that was straight out of the help
[07:02] <stdin> Trek: sometimes it gives you a few extra seconds to stop an out of control process that's eating ram
[07:03] <Trek> oic
[07:04] <Rukus> hi
[07:04] <BanisterKelly> Howdy
[07:05] <Rukus> why would glxgears run REAL slow until i start compiz? then it runs fast
[07:05] <raylu> kubuntu can run on that, sure
[07:05] <stdin> raylu: "dcop $PORT default say $SERVER $TARGET $whatever $else $is $passed ", #konversation for help
[07:05] <raylu> Rukus, you mean..why does it slow down as you start compiz?
[07:05] <Rukus> no
[07:05] <raylu> ah, that looks like it'll work, stdin; I think the kde help for konv needs an update
[07:06] <Rukus> i get 150 frames/sec. then i start compiz --replace and it shoots up to 2000frames/sec
[07:06] <Rukus> why so kooky
[07:06] <ere4si> 2000 fps?
[07:07] <Rukus> ya
[07:07] <raylu> what is the variable for "every argument after 2"? i thought it was $2+?
[07:07] <ere4si> that's gotta be a record...
[07:07] <raylu> or a bug :P
[07:07] <Rukus> 9727 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1938.062 FPS
[07:07] <Rukus> 10920 frames in 5.1 seconds = 2148.201 FPS
[07:07] <BanisterKelly> I remember reading about the 3D cube effect in LInux.  Is that still around, or faded?
[07:07] <raylu> !compiz | BanisterKelly
[07:08] <ubotu> BanisterKelly: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[07:08] <Rukus> it even appears to run faster
[07:08] <BanisterKelly> Thank you.
[07:08] <raylu> the wall is better than the cube</fact></opinion>
[07:08] <BanisterKelly> I didn't know what it was, just knew of it from reading up on Linux.
[07:09] <ere4si> the wall?
[07:09] <BanisterKelly> Pink Floyd?  lol
[07:10] <raylu> yes. instead of the Desktop Cube, i use the Desktop Wall
[07:10] <raylu> :D
[07:11] <BanisterKelly> Never heard of it.
[07:11] <raylu> it's one of the plugins to compiz fusion; i disabled the cube and enabled the wall
[07:12] <twylight> screenshots plz
[07:12] <stdin> > -offtopic
[07:13] <raylu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eaI9YcxD9s <16
[07:13] <twylight> JUST AS he said offtopic
[07:13] <stdin> post links like that in -offtopic, not in the main channel, thanks
[07:14] <raylu> T.T sorry
[07:16] <BanisterKelly> I am off to do some reading.  Be back later to ask questions.
[07:18] <Linux_Galore> heres a question, how come all the nice little kde image resize apps like SIR or Kim or even the three menu image resize apps that come to mind are not on the repo, Gnome has its plugins but KDE is left the poorer
[07:19] <BanisterKelly> Here is another question: Why do I get commit/broken package errors when I install/update?
[07:19] <papi> here comes another more question. Any experience in using Heimdal kerberos and php5?
[07:20] <BanisterKelly> Why does installing Kubuntu 7.10 CD/DVD say there is a version update?
[07:21] <Linux_Galore> BanisterKelly: hmm I got that too but not from the dvd install, worked fine though afterwards
[07:21] <raylu> BanisterKelly, your repositories might include the next version's preview
[07:21] <Linux_Galore> BanisterKelly: sounds like you have an old cd/dvd
[07:21] <BanisterKelly> I just downloaded it earlier today.
[07:22] <BanisterKelly> Took a few hours to get it.
[07:22] <raylu> have you configured your repositories yet?
[07:22] <BanisterKelly> Yes.
[07:22] <raylu> then I think you added the Hoary repository
[07:22] <BanisterKelly> But everytime I run update/install of programs I get a program and the program crashes.
[07:22] <BanisterKelly> I get an error
[07:23] <BanisterKelly> then it crashes after I press Okay
[07:23] <raylu> by "the program," you mean adept?
[07:23] <BanisterKelly> Something about Commit breaking the Package, or something like that.
[07:23] <BanisterKelly> Yeah, I think that the program.
[07:23] <BanisterKelly> Add/Remove Programs
[07:24] <raylu> ah. use: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:24] <Evil_`> How can I get Adobe's Flash Player to work with Konqueror?
[07:24] <BanisterKelly> Right now I am running from the LIve CD.
[07:25] <Linux_Galore> Evil_`: just install adobe flash then it will work
[07:25] <Linux_Galore> Evil_`: use your package manager
[07:26] <BanisterKelly> I will run that once I reboot.
[07:26] <Evil_`> Linux_Galore: ok, thanks
[07:27] <Linux_Galore> ? flash
[07:27] <Linux_Galore> ! flash
[07:27] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:27] <raylu> BanisterKelly, actually, there is a way to run that command as if it were happening on your system
[07:27] <BanisterKelly> I am stuck between using Kubuntu and OpenSuSE.  OpenSuSE runs vmware fine, but not Kubuntu.  Kubuntu has a much better selection of programs to check out.
[07:27] <Linux_Galore> !vmware
[07:27] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:28] <BanisterKelly> Now you're speaking my language.  lol
[07:28] <raylu> you can mount your linux partition (as /media/linux, for example) and use chroot /media/linux
[07:28] <BanisterKelly> Never could get Vbox working in ANY Linux distros.
[07:28] <raylu> and then use dpkg --configure... from there
[07:29] <Linux_Galore> I use xen on Fedora 8, total no brainer
[07:29] <BanisterKelly> I will look that up.
[07:30] <BanisterKelly> All I am looking for is a way to run a 98SE in Linux so I can use my old favorites and still be running Linux.
[07:30] <raylu> BanisterKelly, define "old favorites"
[07:30] <stdin> BanisterKelly: try wine before vmware
[07:30] <BanisterKelly> Most of my favorite Windows programs will run fine in a virtual environment.
[07:31] <BanisterKelly> Stuff like 3D Ultra Trains, LCARS/Star Trek programs and utilities.
[07:31] <BanisterKelly> Old programming environment I love to fool with
[07:31] <raylu> o.0...never heard of any of that...but if it runs in 98, I bet wine can handle it
[07:31] <BanisterKelly> Old Windows 9x software and a few games.
[07:31] <BanisterKelly> Some from the Win 3.xx days.  lmao
[07:31] <Jucato> lcars...
[07:32] <Linux_Galore> BanisterKelly: always try bocks or dosemu
[07:32] <BanisterKelly> LCARS - Library Computer Access and Retrieval System
[07:32] <Linux_Galore> oops bochs
[07:32] <Jucato> yeah I know :)
[07:32] <BanisterKelly> OS used in Star Trek
[07:32] <raylu> o.0
[07:32] <BanisterKelly> I have a DOS program NO emulator can run without locking up the system.  lol
[07:32] <Linux_Galore> BanisterKelly: most old windows games run fine in wine
[07:33] <BanisterKelly> Looks like I have quite a bit of reading to do.  lol
[07:33] <stdin> and Wine Is Not an Emulator = WINE
[07:34] <Linux_Galore> BanisterKelly: always use mame roms, tons on the web and they run fine in Linux
[07:34] <BanisterKelly> Will Wine handle the programs used with MS agent tech?
[07:34] <Jucato> they should have really named WINE is as WICL (weekel) :D
[07:34] <stdin> ask in #winehq
[07:36] <Linux_Galore> howtoforge as a guide for setting up vmware in Linux, very well done too
[07:36] <Linux_Galore> s/linux/Ubuntu/
[07:36] <stdin> ubuntu has a guide too...
[07:37] <Linux_Galore> s/Linux/Ubuntu/
[07:37] <raylu> actually, blizzard games (including WoW), and the orange box run on wine ;D
[07:37] <raylu> with miminal configuration
[07:37] <BanisterKelly> Most of the games I play others avoid.  lol
[07:37] <raylu> seriously, what does lcars do?
[07:38] <BanisterKelly> You mean like LCARS Media Player, LCARS System, etc?  lol
[07:38] <Linux_Galore> doesnt Ubuntu sponsor the winetools project (making wine easy)
[07:38] <raylu> o.0...nevermind
[07:38] <BanisterKelly> Yup.
[07:38] <BanisterKelly> I am off to read.  Thanks for all the help and suggestions.
[07:38] <raylu> you should redistribute xubuntu and rename everything with LCARS
[07:38] <Linux_Galore> wonder how far along that has gotten (winetools)
[07:39] <raylu> !winetoolls
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winetoolls - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <raylu> !winetools
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winetools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <BanisterKelly> Can I post a link here?
[07:39] <ere4si> !wine
[07:39] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[07:39] <BanisterKelly> Non linux link
[07:39] <ere4si> !AppDB
[07:39] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[07:40] <Linux_Galore> BanisterKelly: why do you want the LCARS media player, Linux has a gazillion players and some even allow you too use windows themes and skins
[07:40] <raylu> are any of them called the LCARS media player though?
[07:40] <BanisterKelly> No one said I wanted it, just mentioning a few LCARS programs I used in Winblows.
[07:40] <BanisterKelly> Check out: http://www.bennisoft.com
[07:41] <BanisterKelly> I bought some of them before they became free and there were more when it first started.
[07:42] <Linux_Galore> BanisterKelly: get ready to have your trekie mind explode heh imagine a portable Linux UMPC whats looks and works like the one on startrek http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwXBPjLdJnU
[07:43] <Linux_Galore> get a N770 cheap as cheaps right now too
[07:43] <Linux_Galore> chips*
[07:47] <Linux_Galore> or you can use superkaramba with some lcars themes http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/LCARS+Monitor+NEW?content=62823
[07:47] <Linux_Galore> in KDE
[07:50] <Linux_Galore> Home page for the LCARS theme engine for the Nokia N770/N800 UMPC http://synthesize.us/LCARS_PADD?title=LCARS_PADD
[07:50] <BanisterKelly> Now that peeks my eyebrows.  lol
[07:51] <BanisterKelly> The first one
[07:51] <BanisterKelly> I don't do wireless phones.
[07:51] <Linux_Galore> BanisterKelly: well you can get a N770 for under US$100
[07:51]  * Jucato has that link too :)
[07:51] <Jucato> BanisterKelly: it's not a phone :)
[07:51] <BanisterKelly> portable phones, whatever yo call them.
[07:51] <Jucato> not even
[07:51] <Jucato> :D
[07:51] <Linux_Galore> BanisterKelly: its a UMPC
[07:51] <BanisterKelly> Whats a umpc?
[07:51] <Jucato> officially it's an IT (Internet Tablet)
[07:51] <Jucato> Ultra Mobile PC
[07:52] <Linux_Galore> BanisterKelly: portable tablet device with WiFi and Bluetooth
[07:52] <Jucato> which is sort of a Windows "brand"...
[07:52] <Linux_Galore> the N770 though technically isnt a PC because it runs an arm based cpu
[07:52] <BanisterKelly> Oh boy, another thing bill has his filthy hands on.  lol
[07:52] <Jucato> (hence the Internet Tablet name)
[07:53] <Linux_Galore> Im getting a N810 this xmas, got my order in over at amazon
[07:54]  * Jucato is getting one 2008 Q1... no money yet...
[07:54] <twylight> LOL!!!!!!!11111one
[07:54] <BanisterKelly> I am saving for a new PC.
[07:54] <BanisterKelly> Will take several months.
[07:54] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: I had a look at the Q1, no keyboard put me offf
[07:54] <DM|> !offtopic
[07:54] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:55] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: lol! I meant first quarter of 2008 :)
[07:55] <Linux_Galore> ah
[07:55] <Jucato> oh well. ot :)
[07:55]  * BanisterKelly zips his lips.
[07:55] <BanisterKelly> lol
[07:55] <BanisterKelly> Back to researching.  Be back later.
[07:56] <dm> Hello. Any idea how to persuade kmail to respect my umask of 0022 when saving attachments?
[07:56] <Jucato> er.. still no luck w/ that? :(
[07:57] <Linux_Galore> Ive given up on kmail
[07:57] <simion314> Please help ,i have a big problem, , it is about my scrren resolution, i had yesterday problems when i chnge the resolution the screen was not corectly painted , my scrren suports verry large resolution, now when i turn on kubuntu the maxim resolution is 640x480, i do not enderstend what happend and how to fix this
[07:57] <dm> hmmm
[07:58] <DM|> dm stole my name !
[07:58] <phaedra> Linux_Galore, Just use Thunderbird...
[07:58] <Linux_Galore> phaedra: I do
[07:58] <DM|> :P
[07:58] <phaedra> Linux_Galore, ;)
[07:59] <Linux_Galore> kmail has such allot of potential but it always seems to be buggy as hell or crippled by geek politics
[07:59] <vlt> What's a good alternate MUA?
[08:00] <ere4si> vlt: what's a mua?
[08:01] <Linux_Galore> should send the kmail guys to work at Mozilla for a while, few weeks of their whining and silly politics being laughed at will make them think
[08:03] <Evil_`> Any idea why I can't hear music from Amarok?
[08:03] <Linux_Galore> Evil_`: do you have two sounds cards ie built in & pci sound card ?
[08:04] <ere4si> Evil_: done the obvious? - !sound
[08:04] <Evil_`> I guess lol, dunno
[08:04] <ere4si> !sound
[08:04] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:05] <Linux_Galore> Evil_`: if you have two sound cards often it will default to the on-board sound not the sound card you have to tell it too use the correct one
[08:05] <Evil_`> in the sound options thing the PCM was down all the way
[08:06] <Evil_`> when I turned it up, it worked lol
[08:06] <Linux_Galore> yeah, stupid default driver settings
[08:06] <Evil_`> lol, I knew sound was working in limewire :P
[08:06] <simion314> hi, i can't find no solution on google about my  resolution problem, just some people with the same problem, can anyoane help me? i can;t increase my resolution
[08:07] <ere4si> smion314: it usually is a video driver not installed
[08:07] <darkness_s> ok simion314 what videocard do you have
[08:08] <Linux_Galore> simion314:  type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:08] <simion314> ATI
[08:08] <ere4si> I've got to start hitting my keys harder!
[08:08] <darkness_s> are you using the restricted driver?
[08:09] <Linux_Galore> I tried the Kubuntu graphical monitor setup tool and it totally messed it up heh
[08:11] <simion314> Linux_Galore: how much memory to give to my video card?
[08:12] <spykedtomato> hey all - before i switched to kubuntu i was running ubuntu (gnome) and installed f-spot from source - now I can see f-spot is still installed and I want to get rid of it - it doesn't show up as installed in Adept - any idea how I can remove it??
[08:12] <Linux_Galore> simion314: dont worry about that, most of the stuff you can default
[08:13] <vlt> ere4si: Mail User Agent
[08:13] <Linux_Galore> simion314: xorg will look after that automatically
[08:13] <ere4si> k
[08:13] <simion314> Linux_Galore: they do not put in the memory field nothing, and i belived that it will default to something
[08:13] <Linux_Galore> simion314: I always enter nothing for that
[08:15] <simion314> Linux_Galore: ok i will keep the defaul for all, if it will not work i will try other
[08:15] <Linux_Galore> simion314: when you get to the resolution section use your space bar to mark the resolutions you want to use and up down to go weell up and down the menu
[08:15] <posingaspopular> spykedtomato: you can't remove it using the add/remove programs?
[08:16] <Jucato> posingaspopular!!!
[08:16] <Jucato> not if he compiled it and didn't turn it into a .deb
[08:16] <Jucato> spykedtomato: do you still have the build directory (where you ran make and make install?)
[08:17] <posingaspopular> hey Jucato
[08:17] <spykedtomato> Jucato: looking
[08:17] <posingaspopular> i was going to suggest trying to purge <fspot> in CL. would that work?
[08:17] <simion314> Linux_Galore: i have the same problem like the person in the last post here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-distributions-5/cant-change-resolution-kubuntukde-535107/
[08:17] <Jucato> spykedtomato: if you do, run "make uninstall" (or sudo make uninstall)
[08:17] <spykedtomato> Jucato: no - i don't have the build dir
[08:18] <Jucato> posingaspopular: APT or DPKG has no knowledge about things not installed through them
[08:18] <Jucato> spykedtomato: uh oh...
[08:18] <spykedtomato> hmm
[08:18] <spykedtomato> wait
[08:18] <spykedtomato> i THINK i still have the tar
[08:18] <Jucato> no that won't be the build dir...
[08:18] <spykedtomato> if it's the same version...
[08:18] <Jucato> that would be the source dir... but you could try this (not guaranteed)
[08:18] <posingaspopular> ahh i see
[08:19] <Jucato> try to compile and install it in  exactly the same way as before
[08:19] <Jucato> then uninstall it using make uninstall...
[08:19] <spykedtomato> i could try...
[08:19] <spykedtomato> not sure i remember how i did it - it was a long time ago :)
[08:19] <Jucato> uh oh...
[08:19] <Jucato> :/
[08:19] <Jucato> anyway, afk
[08:20] <spykedtomato> back in dapper - right before i switched to kubuntu
[08:25] <DjDarkman> my laptop stoped running my hard drive with dma, what should I do?
[08:27] <stdin> DjDarkman: if it's on gutsy then libata will sort out the dma settings for you
[08:27] <phaedra> DjDarkman, Just use hdparm -d
[08:27] <noobuntu> how can i know if my desktop depth is set to 24 bits?
[08:27] <DjDarkman> stdin what do you mean?
[08:28] <DjDarkman> phaedra: I checked before
[08:28] <DjDarkman> dma is off
[08:28] <DjDarkman> and my harddisks spead is 1MB/s
[08:29] <DjDarkman> how can I check why is there no dma?
[08:30] <stdin> DjDarkman: with gutsy libata handles sata and pata disks the same, no need to set the dma setting
[08:30] <phaedra> DjDarkman, Just use hdparm -d1 /dev/whatever to set it back on...
[08:30] <stdin> DjDarkman: mode IDE type settings aren't needed (and hdparm will fail if it's using libata)
[08:31] <DjDarkman> ok it`s back
[08:31] <DjDarkman> but why did this happen?
[08:31] <DjDarkman> I mean this happened last day
[08:31] <DjDarkman> but my harddisk worked before
[08:32] <DjDarkman> is there a logical explanation for it?
[08:32] <phaedra> DjDarkman, there are some problems with 7.10 and laptop hd's...  It has something to do with the power saving routines being too agressive.  That might be it.
[08:37] <soadbi> hola alguien de ecuador??
[08:38] <stdin> !es
[08:38] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[08:43] <risto> how i install geforce 440 drivers ?
[08:45] <stdin> !nvidia
[08:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:53] <simion314> Linux_Galore:Thx, fix it
[08:56] <fairyeneried> hello everybody
[08:56] <simion314> i have 2 network cards and a modem, i want to share the internet with an other computer, i read on the forums how to make this but i have a problem , how can i determine witch card is eth0 and whitch is eth1 ,?
[08:56] <fairyeneried> i have a problem, a really big problem, i can't use KDe cause KDE windows are borderless and KDE does not recognize any keboard input :(
[08:57] <stdin> simion314: unless you know the mac address of each, you just have to try it one way and see
[08:57] <fairyeneried> the weird fact is, i'm using konversation now under gnome and it seems to be complete
[08:58] <bazhang> fairyeneried: is this using compiz in kde session?
[08:58] <fairyeneried> i think i have no compiz installed, but, yes, seems to be a compiz problem
[08:59] <bazhang> fairyeneried: if using compiz there is a fix, if not need more info
[08:59] <simion314> stdin: i know theyr name, there are diffrent, i need to see the name of the cards to determine what is eth0 and what is eth1
[08:59] <fairyeneried> i have no compiz inatlled
[08:59] <fairyeneried> i was looking at synaptic and i don't have it
[08:59] <niko_> hi to all
[09:00] <arun_> how do i move a folder into another folder using mv
[09:00] <niko_> italian chan
[09:00] <bazhang> !it | niko_
[09:00] <ubotu> niko_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:00] <niko_> tnx
[09:00] <stdin> simion314: you can try using "sudo lshw" (you may need to install the package)
[09:01] <joseph> anyone know which internet messenger for windows uses very little bandwidth?
[09:01] <se7en_> mv -r somefolder /home/some/other/folder arun_
[09:01] <stdin> arun_: mv directory1 directory2
[09:01] <DjDarkman> phaedra: is there some way to make 7.10 not want to save power?
[09:01] <arun_> thank you se7en, stdin
[09:01] <DjDarkman> I mean I was happy with the power saving features before 7.10
[09:02] <arun_> se7en: it says -R is an illegal option
[09:02] <arun_> sorry -r
[09:02] <stdin> arun_: "mv directory1 directory2" no -r
[09:02] <arun_> alright
[09:02] <simion314> stdin: i try to start firestarter and put to share internet with eth0 first and then with eth1  but it said that device is not ready, but first i want to determin exactly with card is witch
[09:02] <arun_> stdin: worked
[09:02] <arun_> thanks :)
[09:03] <stdin> simion314: the interface won't be "up" unless it connected to something
[09:03] <arun_> um how do i cd to folders that have spaces in the name
[09:04] <se7en_> use the\ for\ files
[09:05] <fairyeneried> bazhang: i have no compiz
[09:05] <phaedra> DjDarkman, You can try noacpi boot param but I don't know if that'll stop the cycling...
[09:05] <stdin> arun_: use tab to complete the name, spaced need to be "escaped" with a back-slash   "cd folder\ with\ some\ spaces"
[09:05] <arun_> alright.. thanks
[09:05] <DjDarkman> phaedra: is the dev team working on a solution for this problem?
[09:06] <bazhang> fairyeneried: have you checked the themes for a better alternative (ie one with borders)
[09:06] <arun_> thanks a lot se7en, stdin
[09:06] <arun_> you've been a real help! :)
[09:07] <fairyeneried> bazhang: i'm using plastik theme
[09:07] <fairyeneried> and i'm in gnome now, and my Konversation window has borders
[09:08] <fairyeneried> i did kwin --replace, and gnome borders gone and kde borders appeared
[09:08] <bazhang> fairyeneried: have you tried another--to see if the problem persists
[09:08] <fairyeneried> under gnome XD
[09:08] <phaedra> DjDarkman, I don't know but the trouble is with the power.sh script that is run.  It issues an hdparm -B1 to all block devices...
[09:08] <fairyeneried> let me try
[09:11] <DjDarkman> but that is wrong phaedra it makes my dvd writer useless
[09:11] <phaedra> DjDarkman, You can always edit the affected files...  But I think 7.10 has a few gotchas in it.  It's the reason I've gone back to 7.04...
[09:11] <fairyeneried> bazhang: i'm here again
[09:12] <fairyeneried> no luck
[09:12] <phaedra> DjDarkman, What makes the dvd useless?
[09:12] <DjDarkman> phaedra: if It turns off DMA on my HDD and my DVD writer then how am I supposed to write DVD`s?
[09:12] <fairyeneried> i started a session in KDE, changed themes to all other themes, windows remains borderless, then i tryied changing window decorations, and the problem continues
[09:12] <bazhang> fairyeneried: so now you no gnome borders but yes on the kde borders? strange
[09:13] <fairyeneried> no no no
[09:13] <phaedra> DjDarkman, Not turning off dma...  Turn off acpi.
[09:13] <DjDarkman> all this stuff happens in laptop mode?
[09:13] <fairyeneried> i'm in gnome, windows are normal
[09:13] <fairyeneried> gnome borders and gnome decoration except inside
[09:13] <fairyeneried> kde windows have plastik decoration
[09:13] <phaedra> DjDarkman, yes.  It happens as soon as you go to battery power.
[09:14] <DjDarkman> yeah that`s cool phaedra but I`m not on battery power and DMA is turned off on all
[09:14] <fairyeneried> ok, under gnome i openen a terminal and wrote "kwin --replace" then borders changed to other borders, i think they're KDE borders
[09:15] <fairyeneried> then i closed terminal, and of course borders disapeared, i got a gnome with no window borders
[09:15] <phaedra> DjDarkman, Just turn 'em on again...
[09:15] <thomax__> !powermanagement
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powermanagement - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <thomax__> !laptop
[09:15] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[09:15] <bazhang> fairyeneried: you have kde4 gnome and kde all installed at the same time correct? did you have this issue before you installed kde4?
[09:15] <fairyeneried> i openen the appareacen control panel in selected something trying to enable little compiz features
[09:15] <DjDarkman> would it be wise phaedra to just delete the lines from the power.sh where it goes into "laptop_mode"?
[09:15] <fairyeneried> system says, ther's no compiz and restored my window borders
[09:15] <simion314> where can i set my ip in KDE ?
[09:16] <DjDarkman> simion314: system settings -> networking...
[09:16] <fairyeneried> then i have gnome working and kde apps working under gnome, but kde session is useless
[09:16] <phaedra> DjDarkman,  No...  You can add some things to stop the cycling...  I'll see if I can get you a url for it.  Hang on...
[09:16] <DjDarkman> ok
[09:16] <fairyeneried> bazhang: i don't have kde4
[09:17] <fairyeneried> and this is the first time i try to use KDE
[09:17] <phaedra> DjDarkman, Here's one.  http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=16&t=4658
[09:17] <simion314> DjDarkman: how can i start it as root?
[09:17] <DjDarkman> one thing I don`t understand... how does turning off DMA save power?
[09:17] <fairyeneried> i mean using KDE in this installation
[09:17] <DjDarkman> simion314: it will ask for your root password don`t worry
[09:18] <bazhang> fairyeneried: so now you have borders back again--after trying to start compiz?
[09:18] <simion314> it do not ask me yet, and it seams that the options are disabled
[09:18] <phaedra> DjDarkman, And another one.  http://paul.luon.net/journal/hacking/BrokenHDDs.html
[09:19] <fairyeneried> yes, cause system cannot start compiz, thee's no compiz file at all, and then when this panel fails starting compiz then it restored last behavior XD
[09:21] <bazhang> fairyeneried: so that's fixed, or there's something still remaining?
[09:21] <Les_Caesars> I use regular old ubuntu, but I use kopete as my instant messenger because it supports webcam. When I click on a hyperlink, it opens konqueror, which I do not want. How do I make it instead open up firefox?
[09:22] <simion314> DjDarkman:in network connections at network interface the devices are disabled(eth0 and eth1) and i can't configure the ips
[09:22] <DjDarkman> simion314: no problem just re-enable them
[09:22] <joseph> most moviesin linux. is there like a codec pack i can get? cant play
[09:23] <joseph> most movies dont play in linux. anyone know of a codec pack?
[09:23] <arun_> If I were to format a 80GB hard disk as FAT32, approximately how much time would that take?
[09:23] <arun_> joseph: use vlc player
[09:23] <bazhang> joseph: physical dvds or other?
[09:23] <simion314> DjDarkman: sorry i mean that they are grayed, i can,t modify the settings, it seams that at proxy i can meke changes but in this page i can't
[09:23] <joseph> internet within browser streaming
[09:24] <joseph> which is why i need codecs
[09:24] <fairyeneried> i closed ubuntu by error :(
[09:24] <bazhang> arun_: depends on your cpu
[09:25] <DjDarkman> simion314: press admininstrator mode
[09:25] <DjDarkman> brb
[09:25] <bazhang> fairyeneried: how are those borders looking
[09:26] <arun_> bazhang: I have an intel core 2 duo processor with 1GB RAM
[09:26] <fairyeneried> bazhang:  invisible
[09:26] <bazhang> arun_: then no time at all :}
[09:26] <arun_> bazhang: it's been on for like an hour or so now
[09:26] <fairyeneried> and i can't write anything under KDE, it does not recognize my keyb input
[09:26] <arun_> not completed
[09:27] <fairyeneried> so, i'm planning to write a file with just a line inside "kwin --replace"
[09:27] <fairyeneried> but i don't know how to start a bash file :'(
[09:27] <bazhang> arun_: any indicator as to how much is completed?
[09:27] <arun_> bazhang: it's been stuck on 100%
[09:27] <arun_> it's not hung, but it's not showing as completed either
[09:27] <arun_> as in very close to 100%
[09:28] <thomax__> fairyeneried: chmod 777 file.sh
[09:28] <bazhang> arun_: sounds hung--maybe give it a few more minutes
[09:28] <arun_> bazhang: it's been this way for over an hour now
[09:28] <thomax__> fairyeneried: and to execute it, just type path to file in console
[09:28] <bazhang> arun_: at 100% for an hour?
[09:29] <fairyeneried> i'll try to double click ir under KDE, cause KDE is not receiving me any keyboard input
[09:29] <arun_> near 100% yes
[09:29] <arun_> been stuck there
[09:29] <bazhang> arun_: any way to cancel it out?
[09:29] <thomax__> fairyeneried: drag and drop file to console
[09:29] <arun_> bazhang: i just cancelled it, but when i plug it back in, it doesn't detect the drive
[09:29] <joerg> guten morgen.
[09:30] <thomax__> !de | joerg
[09:30] <ubotu> joerg: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:30] <joerg> sorry
[09:30] <thomax__> np
[09:31] <arun_> ok gotta go, brb in a bit
[09:31] <mauri> i've a problem wwith adept manager. It say: Anoter process is usign.......
[09:32] <thomax__> what is the standard power/cpu manager that comes with kubuntu?
[09:33] <fairyeneried> ok, the idea of the script worked well, but i had to double clic it 3 times cause every new windows is borderless
[09:33] <fairyeneried> now it is reading me my keyboard, but is still ignoring the dead keys..
[09:34] <mauri> i've a problem wwith adept manager. It say: Anoter process is usign.......
[09:34] <simion314> DjDarkman: thx, that button was not visible, now i have the error: Gateway ip is invalid, i want to share this intenet with other computer, so i put on that computer the default getway my ip 192.168.0.1 and i put on my computer the same gateway like my ip
[09:41] <risto> i installed ET wolfenstein and it was very slow motion, could it be because i have wrong driver?
[09:41] <fairyeneried> no, problem persists in KDE
[09:41] <fairyeneried> i have no compiz, but the problem seems to be a compiz like problem :(
[09:42] <fairyeneried> how can i explicitly disable compiz?
[09:42] <mauri> i've a problem wwith adept manager. It say: Anoter process is usign.......
[09:42] <fairyeneried> i think the problem is there's no compiz, but KDE is trying to load it
[09:42] <thomax__> by uninstalling it?
[09:42] <thomax__> hmm
[09:43] <fairyeneried> there's no compiz, there's no way to uninstall it
[09:43] <fairyeneried> maybe some old conf files missing here and there... :(
[09:43] <thomax__> yeah, I figured
[09:43] <yodo> @mauri: this should be solved after a reboot
[09:44] <risto> what was the fps testing program ?
[09:44] <mauri> yodo: i know thet after reeboot it should be probably solved. I would like to avoid this case
[09:45] <yodo> then you have to find the process that is using apt and kill it
[09:46] <mauri> yodo: i seen but no process whit the name adept are existing
[09:47] <risto> what was the the name of testing video driver glx.. ?
[09:47] <Lynoure> Akregator often hogs > 90% of my cpu and becomes quite unresponsive for a while, usually when updating the feeds. anything I can do about this?
[09:48] <fairyeneried> there's no solution for this problem, maybe i have to reinstall ubuntu again
[09:48] <fairyeneried> :(
[09:48] <niko_> guys
[09:49] <niko_> i wont to start up the eciadsl GUI....
[09:49] <niko_> but when i run eciadsl-config-tk
[09:49] <niko_> it's dispalyed
[09:50] <mauri> yodo: i seen but no process whit the name adept are existing
[09:50] <niko_> root@black-machine:/home/niko# eciadsl-config-tk
[09:50] <niko_> bash: /usr/bin/eciadsl-config-tk: /usr/bin/wish: bad interpreter: Nessun file o directory
[09:50] <niko_> someone can help me?
[09:51] <risto> 8508 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1701.561 FPS is this normal score in glxgears ?
[09:51] <joseph> anyone know of a program i can use to control other comps. i manage a network and would like to be able to see and control wat everyone on my network does all from my comp?
[09:52] <Tm_T> risto: yes
[09:52] <risto> but ET is very slow
[09:53] <joseph> 5324 fps in glx gears here
[09:53] <risto> wrong driver, i use the nvidia restricted driver ?
[09:53] <risto> mine videocard is geforce 440 64mb
[09:53] <niko_> eciadsl....
[09:53] <joseph> lol
[09:53] <joseph> really old card
[09:54] <risto> yes
[09:54] <risto> 2004 year card
[09:54] <risto> only 3 years old :D
[09:54] <joseph> wow. didnt know they go to crap so ast
[09:55] <joseph> im gonna need a new one in a year lol
[09:55] <joseph> i have the 8600 gs
[09:55] <fairyeneried> bazhang: the problem is related to KDE
[09:55] <joseph> anyone know of a program i can use to control other comps. i manage a network and would like to be able to see and control wat everyone on my network does all from my comp?
[09:56] <fairyeneried> i used my little script, then i got window borders back, then i opened anything else, and borders deissapear, i use the script again, borders back, i opened a gnome application, borders disaperas too...
[09:56] <bazhang> fairyeneried: hmm not sure there
[09:56] <fairyeneried> i was planning to delete ~/.kde folder
[09:57] <joseph> oh hey, important question here
[09:57] <Lynoure> fairyeneried: just move it out of the way instead of deleting...
[09:57] <fairyeneried> hehe, that's a better idea
[09:57] <Lynoure> fairyeneried: that way you can restore some of the settings later.
[09:57] <jpatrick> and mail, etc
[09:58] <joseph> i can alt+ctrl+right arrow into 4 different desktop screens; however, each screen hold the same icons. how can i make it so that they are all different instead of being a replica of my desktop
[10:00] <twylight> send /usr to /dev/null
[10:00] <twylight> no don't
[10:01] <jpatrick> heh
[10:02] <niko_> there's someone who can help me in configuring eciadsl?
[10:05] <fairyeneried> i'll do it this weekend
[10:05] <fairyeneried> take care guys, thanks for the help :)
[10:05] <fairyeneried> ;)
[10:06] <fairyeneried> bye
[10:07] <mauri> what means the packet was broke
[10:12] <maverick_> hey, am using amsn for some reason lately it doesn't save some of my settings when i chane them and i lose them when i restart it...ex. my Pesonal message...
[10:12] <maverick_> any ideas?
[10:12] <thomax__> where in /dev/ can I find my battery?
[10:15] <posingaspopular> when i run htop it shows 8 instances of amarok running
[10:15] <simion314> i want to share the internet connection, what should i put at default gateway?
[10:17] <jpatrick> simion314: what ip address your router is
[10:20] <simion314> jpatric: i have a modem and a network card, and i want to share the internet with the other computer  with this network card, i done this before in ubuntu but now i do not remember what ro put in gateway
[10:20] <twylight> gawd it's 5:00
[10:20] <twylight> nini
[10:22] <stdin> simion314: the default gateway for the other pc(s) is the internal IP if your pc
[10:23] <simion314> jpatrick: i put the gateway identic to my networck card ip and it gives me that is an ivalid ipgateway ip, tried to put other ip but the same error
[10:27] <simion314> stdin: on the other computer the gateway  is the same like the ip on the computer with the internet
[10:28] <stdin> simion314: no, it's needs to be your internal IP. 192.168.X.1  or similar
[10:29] <simion314> stdin: yes is 192.168.0.1 like the ip from my network card, the internet modem has dinamic ip
[10:34] <simion314> The applet in the network settings gives me the error default gateway ip, how those it check if is valid because i belive i entered a corect value?
[10:36] <simion314> how can i set the gateway manualy?
[10:36] <stdin> simion314: by editing /etc/network/interfaces
[10:37] <marco__> Hello, where I can report bug against new KDE 4 RC1 packages? Maybe in Launchpad? Thanks,
[10:38] <simion314> stdin: something is not good with the interface from kde
[10:38] <stdin> simion314: example: http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/531
[10:38] <stdin> marco__: to kde -> #kde4-devel
[10:38] <marco__> stdin: thanks
[10:38] <SSJ_GZ> marco__: Is this a bug in KDE4 itself, or a packaging bug?
[10:39] <marco__> No, it looks like a KDE bug
[10:39] <SSJ_GZ> marco__: OK :)
[10:39] <stdin> my packages are perfect, has to be a KDE bug :p
[10:40] <SSJ_GZ> marco__: Have you heard of Krush days, BTW? There's one today and it aims to make it easier to report bugs: http://techbase.kde.org/Contribute/Bugsquad/KrushDays
[10:42] <The-Compiler> Hi
[10:46] <DjDarkman> is there a way is there a way to make ubuntu not mess with my laptop and not destroying my harddisk by doing idiotic things other than turing apci off?
[10:48] <DjDarkman> the way gutsy manages these things is abnormal, is there a way put back feisty`s power management?
[10:48] <Iggi> åñòü ðóññêèå êòî ìîæåò ïîìî÷ü?
[10:50] <twylight> I'm going to write a poem,a poem with a twist
[10:50] <twylight> I'll write it with a razor blade,i'll write it on my wrist
[10:50] <twylight> When i start to write a little fountain will appear,&
[10:50] <twylight> with that little fountain,my troubles disappear.
[10:51] <Tm_T> twylight: stop
[10:51] <twylight> wrong window
[10:51] <Tm_T> yes, very wrong ;)
[10:51] <simion314> stdin: thx, now i have the configuration i wanted but the other computer can't ping me and i can ping it, and firestarter sais that my eth1 device is not ready,yes i configured eth1 and disbled the eth0 the internet comes from ppp0
[10:52] <stdin> simion314: have you enabled eth1 yet? given it an IP and activated it?
[10:53] <simion314> stdin: yes
[10:54] <stdin> simion314: and "ifconfig eth1" shows its details?
[10:55] <nikolas1983> sigh sigh
[10:55] <nikolas1983> non mi parte la connesione
[10:55] <stdin> !it
[10:55] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:55] <nikolas1983> ops
[10:55] <nikolas1983> sorry
[10:55] <nikolas1983> yeap i know
[10:57] <simion314> stdin: it do not shows my ip , other things like :
[10:57] <simion314> iface eth0 inet static
[10:57] <simion314>         address 192.168.0.2
[10:57] <simion314>         netmask 255.255.255.0
[10:57] <simion314>         broadcast 192.168.0.255
[10:57] <simion314>         gateway 192.168.0.1
[10:57] <simion314> sorry
[10:58] <stdin> if it's more than 2-3 lines, use pastebin
[10:58] <simion314> stdin : that was the intefaces file
[10:58] <stdin> I know
[10:59] <simion314> i do not have an ccount there, i do not want to paste that there, this program just read the \n and send the text
[10:59] <stdin> you don't need an account to use pastebin
[11:00] <simion314> pastebin.net?
[11:00] <stdin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:03] <simion314> stdin: i hope this is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45684/
[11:04] <stdin> simion314: ok, the interface isn't active. did you click the "Enable Interface" button in Network Settings ?
[11:05] <simion314> stdin: it is enabled
[11:05] <simion314> stdin: that it shows me there , the settigs are the one from the interfaces file
[11:06] <simion314> should i restart the computer
[11:07] <ubuntu__> hola
[11:07] <stdin> simion314: "ifconfig eth1" shows it as not being enabled, try "sudo ifconfig eth1 up" and have a look again
[11:07] <markus_> please link to german channel
[11:07] <stdin> markus_: it's #kubuntu-de
[11:07] <markus_> thanks
[11:09] <simion314> stdin: it is the same output, i will restart the computer now and check it again
[11:09] <stdin> that won't help, but he'll get the "I'll restart to fix it" idea out of his head
[11:09] <lvjiabin> Hi,can someone tell me what kde4 works
[11:11] <stdin> it mostly works, it's not complete yet though
[11:12] <lvjiabin> Stdin，thanks
[11:12] <lvjiabin> It likely somewhat beautiful
[11:13] <stdin> very :p
[11:14] <lvjiabin> En ,do you know when the stable  come out?
[11:14] <luca_b> lvjiabin: Tagging is in December
[11:14] <blendtux> stdin: question
[11:14] <blendtux> i am trying to install kde4 rc 1
[11:14] <blendtux> but i got a dep problem
[11:15] <stdin> lvjiabin: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedul
[11:15] <blendtux> /msg stdin:
[11:15] <blendtux> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:15] <blendtux>   kdebase-workspace-dev: Depends: libnm-util-dev but it is not going to be insta
[11:15] <blendtux>                          Depends: network-manager-dev but it is not going to be
[11:15] <blendtux> E: Broken packages
[11:15] <stdin> blendtux: you need to remove all the old kde beta package, all of them
[11:15] <blendtux> i never installed them stdin
[11:15] <simion314> stdin: same output
[11:16] <lvjiabin> stdin:En ,I   know !But too slow !
[11:16] <stdin> blendtux: both those are in main, should be installable. try installing them manually
[11:17] <stdin> lvjiabin: then go help out :)
[11:17] <lvjiabin> Oh ,my poor  English
[11:17] <stdin> simion314: post the /etc/network/interfaces file to pastebin
[11:18] <lvjiabin> Hi,stdin!Can you tell  me Chinese chanel?
[11:18] <jpatrick> !cn
[11:18] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[11:18] <stdin> !cn
[11:19] <lvjiabin> Thanks,evrybody
[11:21] <simion314> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45687/
[11:21] <blendtux> cant do it stdin, libnm-util-dev: Depends: libnm-util0 (= 0.6.5-0ubuntu16) but 0.6.5-0ubuntu16.7                                                              .10.0 is to be installed
[11:22] <stdin> simion314: the one with the internet connection should not have "gateway 192.168.0.1" only the one without
[11:23] <simion314> stdin: i tried every thing, and the applet from kde complains that the gateway is invalid, try to put nothing there again, i will modify the interface file
[11:23] <stdin> blendtux: looks like you had gutsy-proposed enabled then disabled. try re-enabling it
[11:23] <asktoby> How do I set the permissions on an SD card? It mounts as root:root and I can't seem to change it.
[11:24] <blendtux> stdin: lol, ehm sorry what do you mean by that
[11:24] <stdin> asktoby: mount it with pmount, not mount
[11:24] <asktoby> Trying "Disks and filesystems", and also sudo chmod :mygroup /media/mountpoint
[11:25] <asktoby> stdin: Is this facility not offered by the GUI? I don't mind CLI, but my wife does :)
[11:25] <stdin> blendtux: in adept, Adept > Manage Repositories, in the Updates tab make sure that the first 4 boxes are checked
[11:26] <stdin> asktoby: how are you mounting it?
[11:26] <asktoby> If it doesn't automount, I right-click on the icon that appears on the desktop
[11:28] <simion314> stdin: is the same output from ifconfig eth1 and the applet gives me the same error that the gatway ip is invalid, i do not understend why is not working
[11:30] <blendtux> thanks stdin :)
[11:30] <stdin> asktoby: is it ext3 ?
[11:31] <stdin> simion314: in the interfaces file, take out the "gateway 192.168.0.1" and add "auto eth1" at the very top
[11:33] <blendtux> btw stdin how is kde 4 rc1
[11:34] <stdin> blendtux: haven't had that much chance to test it yet :p
[11:34] <blendtux> oke, but are you going to help with the krush days
[11:34] <asktoby> stdin: It's VFAT, according to the 'mount' command
[11:35] <stdin> blendtux: I'm not a kde dev (not yet anyway), I just do the packaging
[11:35] <stdin> asktoby: strange, it shouldn't/can't mount as root if the user is mounting it
[11:36] <stdin> unless you have a line for it in /etc/fstab?
[11:36] <simion314> stdin:  the fiels are now emptin in system settings network.. and ifconfig output is the same, i belive i must try other time, some thing is wrong here, i made this before in ubuntu and in windows it works fine
[11:36] <blendtux> but the krush days, are for users to report bugs right
[11:36] <blendtux> you hdont have to be a developer to report bugs stdin
[11:36] <stdin> blendtux: yeah, but I haven't used it enough to see any bugs
[11:37] <stdin> been busy getting kdenetwork-kde4 to compile
[11:37] <stdin> which it now does :)
[11:37] <asktoby> quit
[11:38] <simion314> stdin: can i install other interface to the network settings?
[11:38] <asktoby> (sorry, typed into wrong window there.)
[11:40] <asktoby> stdin: There is a line in the fstab, I think it was put there by "Disk and filesystems".
[11:40] <asktoby> stdin: It reads "UUID=E494-4355 /media/R4DS auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[11:40] <stdin> simion314: try resetting everything to what it was. then just give both PCs a static IP address and set the interfaces to start at boot. then make the 2nd PC use the IP of the 1st one as the gateway. then try getting firestarter to use it
[11:40] <asktoby> stdin: I thought the "users" section would make it usable by all users, no?
[11:41] <stdin> asktoby: it should, but it's not
[11:41] <stdin> asktoby: you generally don't put a fstab line for removable media anyway
[11:41] <stdin> it should just be detected when inserted
[11:42] <asktoby> stdin: Okay, I'll try commenting that line out
[11:42] <simion314> stdin: tha applet has a bug, i configured the both y cards to auto ,and it gives me the same gatway ip invalid, and i put them to automatic dhcpm
[11:43] <stdin> you aren't using dhcp are you?
[11:43] <simion314> no
[11:45] <asktoby> stdin: Having removed that line from fstab the device is now auto-mounted by the first desktop user, my wife on Ctrl-Alt-F7
[11:45] <stdin> simion314: keep it as manual, put in the IP address and click the "Activate when computer starts" button, on the 2nd PC do the same but click the advanced tab and put in the IP of the 1st PC as the gateway
[11:45] <asktoby> stdin: How would I make it such that we both have write access to it?
[11:46] <stdin> asktoby: that'd be a bit difficult to let two users access it at the same time
[11:46] <simion314> stdin: thx for your time, i search for other interface, one from gnome maybe will work
[11:47] <asktoby> stdin: Is it not just a matter of chowning /media/mountpoint to a group of which we are both a member?
[11:47] <stdin> asktoby: the easiest was is to put back the fstab line :p  add to it "uid=46"
[11:47] <stdin> asktoby: no, because chown only work on filesystems that have support for permissions
[11:48] <asktoby> **epiphany** :D
[11:48] <stdin> asktoby: that should be "gid=46" too
[11:49] <stdin> asktoby: you could also just do "umask=0000" I guess
[11:49] <asktoby> stdin: what is the significance of 46 for the group identifier?
[11:50] <stdin> asktoby: that's the standard group number of the "plugdev" group
[11:50] <asktoby> My wife and I are both a member of the "newmans" group (our surname), so could I go gid=newmans
[11:50] <stdin> it has to be a number, not a name
[11:50] <stdin> asktoby: try this line "UUID=E494-4355 /media/R4DS auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid,umask=0000 0 0"
[11:51] <stdin> that should work
[11:52] <asktoby> If I modify fstab manually  will it upset the "Disks and filesystems" utility?
[11:52] <stdin> "Disks and filesystems" is just a GUI for fstab
[12:02] <asktoby> Neither my wife nor I have permission to mount the device now, I have to manually mount it as root.
[12:02] <simion314> had anyone tried SUSE linux? i wan to now how is it in compare tu ubuntu
[12:04] <stdin> asktoby: it should be the same line as before, just with ",umask=0000" at the end
[12:05] <asktoby> stdin: I have:
[12:05] <asktoby> UUID=E494-4355 /media/R4DS auto users,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid,umask=0000 0 0
[12:06] <asktoby> Should that be user, not users? I'm reading fstab on wikipedia now and it says "user" singular
[12:06] <stdin> asktoby: they are different options, users lets users mount it. user only lets the owner of the device node mount it (probably root)
[12:07] <kde4> stdin: i installed the packages but now i want to run kde4 instead its running kde3
[12:08] <stdin> kde4: the instructions are on the announcement page
[12:08] <maini10> Hello, I have noticed a serious regression (at least in my Pc) after today's upgrade of some KDE 4 packages. Now kickoff is disappeared and "The object cannot be created" is shown as error in many places of desktop.
[12:09] <asktoby> stdin: I've found that I can mount it using the command "$ mount R4DS" but I can't by right-clicking the GUI icon.
[12:10] <asktoby> stdin: Right clicking and choosing mount gives me a "permission denied".
[12:11] <invite_> can somone tell how to set the language of a specified app (like ksysguard) ?
[12:11] <invite_> From konsole
[12:11] <stdin> asktoby: you can create a new "link to application" and have the command "mount R4DS" then you could just double click that link to mount it
[12:11] <kde4> yes but i followed everything from the website on kubuntu
[12:11] <invite_> I have some .mo i want to test
[12:12] <stdin> kde4: then you choose kde4 from the KDM login menu
[12:13] <invite_> What's the channel for internationalization issues ?
[12:13] <kde4> yes i did, and then i get a kde3 desktop
[12:13] <stdin> invite_: #kde-i18n ?
[12:14] <invite_> thnx
[12:14] <stdin> maini10: I see nothing like that, try re-running the apt-get line to make sure you have all the needed packages
[12:14] <stdin> kde4: and you edited the file too?
[12:15] <stdin> kde4: and added the lines to /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde ?
[12:15] <invite_> Found no one in  #kde-i18n , strange !!!
[12:15] <kde4> yep i did stdin
[12:15] <invite_> stdin  : Are you sure for the channel?
[12:15] <maini10> stdin: unfortunately, no further upgrades are available
[12:16] <stdin> invite_: no, it was a guess. maybe someone knows in #kde
[12:16] <invite_> :)
[12:17] <invite_> maybe google can be of some help too, thanks
[12:19] <stdin> maini10: can you post the output of this command to pastebin:    dpkg -l|grep "4:3.96.0"
[12:21] <asktoby> stdin: That works for me. It's a little scruffy (!) but it does work,thanks.
[12:22] <stdin> asktoby: there is no perfect solution, only well hidden problems :)
[12:23] <kde4> is there a way to manualy start kde4 stdin
[12:23] <SoulChild> i am running gnome,... which package do i have to install to get KDE 4 ???
[12:23] <stdin> kde4: in Xephyr yes, instructions also on the announcement page
[12:23] <stdin> SoulChild: see the topic
[12:23] <maini10> stdin: Done, now I have to leave this conversation, thanks
[12:24] <stdin> maini10: you have to post back the URL ;)
[12:25] <kde4> to manualy run kde4 in a full screen session not trough kdm
[12:25] <maini10> stdin: sorry http://pastebin.com/med45833
[12:25] <stdin> thanks
[12:25] <maini10> stdin: thanks for your help, bye
[12:26] <kde4> let me try something brb
[12:40] <nvivo> hi... can anyone give me a hint on a bash script i'm creating?
[12:41] <nvivo> I would like to automate the installation of packages, so I want to create a file that lists the packages I want to install
[12:41] <nvivo> I have been playing with xargs... but I would like to ignore new lines and comments (starting with #)
[12:42] <nvivo> what would be the best way to do it? pipe it through grep and xargs or is there any app to read config files?
[12:43] <thomas_> hi, I get some error 21 in grub when booting, saying that device doesn't exist, now, kubuntu is installed on sdb2, do I set up grub like this? (hd1,1) ?
[12:43] <thomas_> !grub
[12:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:46] <kde4> oke i am in kde4 stdin
[12:50] <kde4> but to be honest, i wished i had not install it, :(
[12:54] <DexterF> hi
[12:55] <DexterF> friend of mine (computer illiterate) needs an app to convert avi to dvd - KMediaFactory didin't work well, target doesn't fit on a dvd
[12:55] <stdin> try devede
[12:56] <DexterF> ill have a look, thanks
[13:05] <praveenm> hi all, how to enable desktop effects in kubuntu? installed compiz-kde and settings are already enabled in ubuntu.
[13:09] <stdin> praveenm: you have to start compiz manually, Alt-F2, compiz --replace
[13:10] <nikk> can someone help me i am having a mouse issue on gutsy
[13:10] <nikk> say i have 3 windows open and my mouse shifts and hit on of the window it makes the window i am working on unactive
[13:11] <praveenm> stdin:Ok, thank you
[13:12] <Exilant> shouldn't ksnapshot start if i press the "print screen" button?
[13:16] <kaminix> How do I split an album inte a one-flac-per-song format from a one-flac-and-one-cue-per-album format again?
[13:16] <blendtux> my god,
[13:16] <blendtux> i am glad i am back :)
[13:17] <nikk> can someone help me ??
[13:18] <Tm_T> nikk: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[13:33] <blendtux> anybody is running kde 4 rc 1
[13:33] <Tm_T> some of use is
[13:33] <Tm_T> s/use/us/
[13:33] <nikk> Tm_t thanks mann
[13:34] <Tm_T> nikk: np
[13:49] <DexterF> stdin: devede works a charm - for me, said friend has not enough disk space :P thanks tho, can use that myself...
[13:50] <stdin> :)
[13:56] <Fraggy4> stdin: could you help me out with some weird graphical error i'm having?
[13:56] <stdin> depends what it is
[13:56] <Fraggy4> I have little vertical lines over every menu and taskbar
[13:57] <stdin> ATI?
[13:57] <Fraggy4> What?
[13:57] <stdin> ATI graphics card?
[13:57] <Fraggy4> No, It's a Neomagic laptop card
[13:57] <Fraggy4> Old Sony Vaio
[13:57] <stdin> hmm
[13:58] <stdin> you're not running XGL are you?
[13:58] <Fraggy4> I had the problem before in 7.04 but I fixed it somehow
[13:58] <Fraggy4> um
[13:58] <Fraggy4> What's XGL?
[13:58] <stdin> (you'd have installed xserver-xgl if you're running it)
[13:59] <Fraggy4> oh
[13:59] <Fraggy4> um
[13:59] <Fraggy4> I don't think so
[14:00] <Fraggy4> stdin: It's not installed
[14:00] <Fraggy4> Should I install it?
[14:00] <stdin> no
[14:00] <Fraggy4> ok
[14:01] <Fraggy4> What am I going to do then?
[14:01] <stdin> I don't think there's much you can do, sounds like a driver issue
[14:01] <Fraggy4> I fixed it before though
[14:01] <Fraggy4> Typed something in konsole
[14:03] <tekteen> Linux + Vio = BAD
[14:03] <Fraggy4> not really
[14:04] <stdin> Fraggy4: have a look on the forums http://ubuntuforums.org
[14:04] <Fraggy4> It runs great, it just has that one issue
[14:06] <Armakidon> http://tinyurl.com/2phfvb
[14:06] <jhutchins> Fraggy4: use sudo lspci to find the video chipset, then google that + xorg to get your solution.
[14:07] <stdin> Armakidon: ?
[14:08] <TimS> What package is WAV support in?
[14:08] <niko__> hi to all
[14:08] <TimS> !wav
[14:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wav - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:09] <niko__> how can i configure tha Avant Window Manager?
[14:09] <Tm_T> TimS: builtin
[14:09] <niko__> i'mo n kubuntu 7.1....
[14:09] <Tm_T> niko__: Kubuntu uses Kwin
[14:09] <niko__> yeap....
[14:09] <TimS> Tm_T: What about installing into amarok?
[14:09] <niko__> and compiz....
[14:09] <Tm_T> TimS: builtin
[14:10] <niko__> i can't replace avant?
[14:10] <niko__> sorry kwin with avant
[14:10] <TimS> Tm_T: Well why arent they added to my media when I rescan collection?
[14:10] <Tm_T> TimS: they don't have tags?
[14:10] <TimS> They might not, but they should still be added.
[14:11] <Tm_T> TimS: perhaps
[14:11] <Tm_T> TimS: you can open them separately though
[14:11] <TimS> Yeah i can
[14:11] <Tm_T> niko__: sure you can, but you need to ask help then from avant channels, as we prolly don't know about it
[14:12] <niko__> great
[14:12] <niko__> here is a chan?
[14:12] <Tm_T> no idea
[14:13] <niko__> #awn
[14:13] <niko__> founded!
[14:14] <maverick> anyone has any idea how to disable file icon preivew..and enable just the files icons
[14:14] <maverick> i mean like pdf files they always get a preview icon instead of the pdf icon...i don't want that
[14:14] <maverick> ?!!
[14:16] <Tm_T> niko__: does their website give help?
[14:16] <jiutian> hi
[14:16] <niko__> uhm....
[14:16] <Tm_T> maverick: look konqueror settings
[14:16] <niko__> i dunno their website
[14:16] <niko__> eheheh
[14:18] <maverick> Tm_T: can't find anything useful?! do u know how to do it?!
[14:19] <stdin> maverick: View > Preview and make sure "Postscript, PDV and DVI Files" isn't selected
[14:19] <niko__> Tim_T
[14:19] <stdin> *PDF not PDV
[14:19] <niko__> do u know their website?
[14:19] <Tm_T> niko__: who is Tim_T ?
[14:19] <niko__> sorry
[14:19] <niko__> :)
[14:19] <Tm_T> ;)
[14:19] <niko__> Tm_T:
[14:19] <niko__> eheheh
[14:19] <stdin> niko__: from the topic of #awn http://wiki.awn-project.org/
[14:20] <niko__> great
[14:20] <maverick> stdin: does this reflect on the desktop too?! cause i want it to be global
[14:20] <stdin> always read topics
[14:20] <stdin> maverick: not sure, should do I think
[14:20] <niko__> even if i'm italina, i prefer this live help channel!
[14:20] <niko__> :)
[14:24] <deguz> hi all!
[14:24] <deguz> i need help
[14:24] <deguz> about wlan
[14:24] <deguz> can anyone help me please?
[14:25] <stdin> !wifi
[14:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:25] <deguz> thanks :)
[14:25] <[ifr0g]>  !dvd
[14:25] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[14:26] <[ifr0g]> !Medibuntu
[14:26] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[14:26] <deguz> thanks stdin, i'm going to read it :)
[14:30] <blendtux> is there a way to transfer a job to another konsole
[14:31] <stdin> blendtux: only when using screen
[14:31] <stdin> !screen
[14:31] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[14:31] <blendtux> damm, cause i have job (wget) running, and the konsole is crashed but wget is still running
[14:33] <stdin> you can just kill wget and then resume it
[14:34] <stdin> "killall wget; wget -c <the URL>"  from the same directory
[14:35] <niko__> just installe the awn
[14:35] <niko__> but it doesn't start...
[14:36] <blendtux> thanks :)
[14:41] <niko__> the avant window navigator work
[14:42] <niko__> but the manager doesn't start
[14:42] <stdin> you'll have to ask in #awm if that's their channel
[14:44] <tekstacy> morning all
[14:44] <hackers> morning
[14:45] <tekteen> morning
[14:45]  * tekstacy pours the coffee
[14:47] <stdin> !coffee
[14:47] <ubotu> coffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java
[14:47] <tekstacy> can anyone reccomend a tutourial or something like that for a new linux user? Something I can leave on the desktop of a new install?
[14:47] <onishidato> !coffee
[14:47] <ubotu> coffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java
[14:48] <onishidato> !manager
[14:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about manager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:48] <onishidato> !transcode
[14:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about transcode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:48] <stdin> !msgthebot > onishidato
[14:48] <tekstacy> Qualcom uses brew instead of java, it sucks
[14:50] <tekstacy> Like a quick-start guide for those who use win
[14:50] <tekstacy> ?
[14:50] <CrazyPoultry> I just did a clean install of 7.10, of the past few times i've done this(seem to be getting good at breaking things), i've had a tray icon for the restricted drivers, this time i don't have one, how do i get them now?(sorry still pretty new to linux in gneral)
[14:50] <onishidato> do you guys know any software can play mp3 file beside Amarok?? can you show me?
[14:51] <tekteen> onishidato: vlc? mplayer?
[14:51] <stdin> CrazyPoultry: system settings > advanced > restricted drivers
[14:51] <tekstacy> google the vlc media player
[14:51] <onishidato> ok
[14:51] <stdin> anything built against libmad
[14:51] <CrazyPoultry> stdin: ty
[14:52] <onishidato>  "dpkg was interrupted" what does it mean??
[14:53] <onishidato> how can i correct it?
[14:53] <tekteen> It means it stopped while working
[14:53] <stdin> means you need to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[14:53] <tekteen> thanks stdin
[14:53] <onishidato> ty
[14:58] <tekstacy> :)
[14:58] <onishidato> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[14:58] <onishidato>   mplayer: Depends: libdvdread3 (>= 0.9.6) but it is not installable
[14:58] <onishidato> i don't know what to o next
[14:58] <tekteen> !info libdvdread3
[14:58] <ubotu> libdvdread3: library for reading DVDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 56 kB, installed size 192 kB
[14:58] <tekteen> you need to enable the 'universe' repository
[14:59] <tekteen> !repo | onishidato
[14:59] <ubotu> onishidato: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[15:00] <tekteen> onishidato: That should tell you how to enable universe
[15:00] <tekstacy> after you do that, you may want to get kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:01] <tekteen> onishidato: I also use medibuntu
[15:01] <tekteen> !medibuntu
[15:01] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[15:01] <blackout> someone here who can help me with my mobile internet??
[15:02] <tekteen> blackout: u mean like an air card?
[15:03] <blackout> yeah its a mobile usb modem
[15:03] <tekteen> I do not know if those work in linux
[15:03] <blackout> i can chat with u, download updates
[15:03] <tekteen> if u want I can google it
[15:04] <tekstacy> tekteen medibuntu rocks
[15:04] <tekteen> tekstacy: yep
[15:04] <tekstacy> I have an aircard
[15:04] <tekteen> cool
[15:04] <blackout> but no function in the konqueror
[15:05] <tekstacy> No idea. When I finally got mine to work, everything that used it worked
[15:05] <tekstacy> try firefox
[15:07] <blackout> one more querstion.
[15:07] <tekteen> ask away
[15:08] <blackout> is it usefull to update every file??? in the adept manager
[15:09] <tekteen> file?
[15:09] <tekteen> yes update every package in the manager
[15:10] <blackout> ok thx
[15:10] <tekteen> (or updater)
[15:10] <tekteen> same program different look
[15:11] <blackout> and the sources??? main, universer, multiverse
[15:11] <tekstacy> enable them all
[15:12] <tekteen> u mean repositories (repos), not sources
[15:12] <tekteen> sources are different
[15:14] <SpoZen> why do i get 530 login error on my ftp server?
[15:14] <tekteen> My ESP tells me because something is wrong
[15:14] <enoj> Is there an easy way to convert a CD ISO to a DVD ISO? I only have empty DVDs available :/
[15:14] <tekstacy> :)
[15:14] <tekteen> can't you just burn the iso to a dvd
[15:15] <bazhang> enoj: just burn away
[15:15] <tekstacy> enoj, you can do that
[15:15] <enoj> K3b won't let me, says to insert empty CD in drive ..
[15:15] <tekstacy> It may give you a warning about the file size, ignore it and all will be well
[15:16] <bazhang> enoj: close that window, then choose burn dvd iso, find the iso file then burn
[15:16] <jhutchins> SpoZen: If you don't know, you shouldn't be running an ftp server.  You're pretty much guaranteed to get hacked.
[15:16] <tekteen> SpoZen: you may want to ask on the #ubuntu chat. Also post the configuration file (and other important info) on pastebin.
[15:17] <tekteen> this will help who ever helps u
[15:18] <enoj> bazhang, tekstacy: thanks
[15:18] <SpoZen> thanks, im just running a ftp server on lan so i cant get hacked
[15:18] <fairyeneried> hi bazhang
[15:18] <bazhang> enoj: no worries :}
[15:18] <bazhang> fairyeneried: hi!
[15:18] <tekstacy> yw
[15:19] <fairyeneried> i'm the small eyed fairy...
[15:19] <tekstacy> Mmm lunch.  Thanks for the help. Bye all....
[15:19] <fairyeneried> a lot of time and KDE is working bad... no window borders, i think i'll do a sudo apt-get remove --purgue whateversoundslike KDE
[15:20] <root____> hey can someone tell me when u install flashplayer which is the path required?
[15:21] <jhutchins> root____: Install it from apt.
[15:21] <fairyeneried> i was planning to reinstall all this ubuntu gutsy, and i thought, how can i tst it before, then i placed the DVD inside, started it, installed scim and scim-bridge and tested... gnome works well with scim, and kde no, that's the uglu ugly true
[15:22] <fairyeneried> then, i'll stay here until somebody fixes scim-bridge-qt or my friend become involved in this library... i think he's interested in doing that...
[15:25] <mateuszaaa> hej
[15:26] <onishidato> tekteen: thanks
[15:27] <mateuszaaa> does anyone know why if iinstalled new kernel and i want run him i have got error  :
[15:27] <mateuszaaa> invalid unsupported executeable format
[15:27] <PA3DLK> no
[15:27] <mateuszaaa> xD
[15:28] <fairyeneried> people, I just need help in one of the most weird cases around KDE of the XXI Century. Was the year of 2007 and... ok, without the Hitchcock intro... I installed ubuntu, of course with Gnome, then i installed Amarok, then few days later kdebase, yesterday SCIM  with chinese and japanese support, after that (i removed default compiz, this computer does not support it, but system wanted to update it, then my friend asked me to remove it), then i
[15:28] <fairyeneried> configured SCIM as the guide says... AND... i started KDE just for curiosity... and the problem is KDE have no window borders, as i said i have no compiz at all, what the problem could be, and how can i solve it?
[15:30] <deguz> stdin: your links didn't help me :( about the wlan
[15:30] <deguz> i tried everything
[15:30] <deguz> really everything
[15:30] <deguz> i use a hp compaq 6720s notebook
[15:30] <deguz> and i can't get the wlan working
[15:31] <fairyeneried> I think a side effect is KDE apps read keyboard input under gnome, but not in KDE session, in KDE session keyboard is useless completelly useless, and even under gnome they ignore dead keys there's no way to write mam´a (mom in spanish) cause, as you can see, the accent was written alone... any help, please!
[15:31] <deguz> (without bios-upgrade even the lan didn't work)
[15:31] <deguz> even the light on the wlan button doesn't change when i push it
[15:31] <deguz> when i type iwconfig i get this:
[15:32] <deguz> lo        no wireless extensions.
[15:32] <deguz> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[15:32] <deguz> wlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:off/any
[15:32] <jhutchins> !paste | deguz
[15:32] <ubotu> deguz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:32] <stdin> deguz use the pastebin service
[15:34] <deguz> so i pasted it :)
[15:34] <deguz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45700/
[15:34] <deguz> sorry again
[15:34] <deguz> and thenks the unban
[15:34] <stdin> fairyeneried: try asking in #kubuntu-es
[15:34] <deguz> *thanks
[15:34] <dengpeng> Could anybody please tell me why when I scroll on an inactive window, it gains focus? and how to avoid that?
[15:35] <stdin> deguz: it was just a mute, so others didn't get flooded, only I could see what you typed
[15:35] <deguz> ohh i see
[15:35] <deguz> so it seems to work alright
[15:36] <deguz> but i can't get it worked :(
[15:36] <deguz> can you help me?
[15:37] <funkja> where can I go for help with KDE 4 RC1?
[15:37] <stdin> deguz: in pastebin, post what "iwlist wlan0 scan" says
[15:37] <stdin> funkja: #kde4-devel
[15:37] <funkja> thanks
[15:39] <deguz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45701/   (but it isn't correct, (I'm in a dorm) my roommate sees wlan networks, and even when i used windows. it saw)
[15:39] <stdin> deguz: is there a switch for the wireless on the laptop?
[15:39] <deguz> do you mean a button?
[15:40] <stdin> either
[15:40] <deguz> well there is a button, but it doesn't work
[15:40] <stdin> you've tried scanning, then pressed the button, then tried scanning again?
[15:40] <deguz> yes
[15:41] <deguz> the same result :(
[15:41] <stdin> what's the make and model of the card?
[15:42] <deguz> lspci says this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45703/
[15:42] <stdin> have you installed the driver?
[15:42] <deguz> yeah
[15:43] <deguz> i tried ndiswrapper and bcm43xx too
[15:43] <stdin> which one first?
[15:43] <deguz> bcm43xx
[15:43] <stdin> hmm
[15:43] <deguz> but i blacklisted and rmmod -ed it
[15:44] <deguz> i don't understand this situation, i tried thousands of how-tos
[15:45] <artur_> how can i discover the MAC adress of my wireless Lan card?
[15:45] <stdin> deguz: I don't know why it's not working, sorry
[15:45] <deguz> if it works, ifconfig writes it i guess
[15:45] <deguz> ohh :(
[15:46] <deguz> anyway, thanks the help
[15:46] <deguz> stdin: are you Ubuntu-dev?
[15:46] <stdin> heh, nope
[15:46] <deguz> i thought first :)
[15:46] <stdin> try posting a thread on the forums and see if someone knows, more people will see it anyway
[15:47] <deguz> okay, thanks the hint :)
[15:47] <funkja> SSJ_GZ: i'm here
[15:47] <mariannina> hi
[15:47] <SSJ_GZ> funkja: Can you pastebin the output of
[15:47] <SSJ_GZ> dpkg --list | grep kde4
[15:47] <SSJ_GZ> ?
[15:48] <mariannina> I don't have audio in kdenlive
[15:48] <funkja> one moment
[15:48] <stdin> the instructions do quite clearly state to remove all kde4 packages...
[15:49] <funkja> SSJ_GZ: http://pastebin.com/d58a3f375
[15:50] <SSJ_GZ> funkja: Those first two (3.94) probably shouldn't be there.
[15:50] <artur_> Who knows how can i discover the MAC adress of my wireless Lan card?
[15:50] <funkja> ok
[15:50] <stdin> !brokenkde4 | funkja, it's not great, but this should fix it
[15:50] <ubotu> funkja, it's not great, but this should fix it: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[15:50] <stdin> artur_: with ifconfig
[15:52] <daffa> !webcam
[15:52] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[15:52] <funkja> SSJ_GZ: i'm geting unmet dependances
[15:53] <SSJ_GZ> funkja: When doing what?
[15:53] <funkja> http://pastebin.com/d3ceff377
[15:53] <funkja> what you said to do
[15:54] <stdin> that's ok, now just add those package to the end of the line
[15:54] <daffa> !easycam
[15:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easycam - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:54] <SSJ_GZ> funkja: That was stdin, not me ;)
[15:54] <funkja> oh :)
[15:54] <stdin> funkja: "sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-dev libplasma-dev libplasma1"
[15:55] <SSJ_GZ> funkja: Just try uninstalling all of those KDE4 packages, individually if need be
[15:55] <stdin> after that just "sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev-kde4 kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-runtime"
[15:55] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[15:55] <stdin> SSJ_GZ: that's what the command does basically :)
[15:55] <SSJ_GZ> stdin: Hehe - OK, funkja - do what stdin said :)
[15:55] <stdin> it's a horrible command, but it works...
 i tried ifconfig, but the MAC showed is strange....is something like 00-19-7D-74-42-70-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 , about the wired LAN card, the MAC is like 00:16:D4:C7:0B:B3
[15:57] <wraund> help me. I used to be able to hold backspace and it would erase all my stuff constantly, now i have to kep on tapping it to erase things, what do i do oh kubuntu gurus?
[15:57] <stdin> artur_: paste the whole output to pastebin and I'll have a loog
[15:57] <stdin> *look
[15:57] <wraund> letters that is
[15:58] <stdin> wraund: system settings > keyboard & mouse > keyboard > enable keyboard repeat ?
[15:58] <funkja> ok, all the kde4 stuff is removed, i'm going to try to reinstall it again
[15:59] <stdin> you should have no problem now
[15:59] <bonbon> ciao
[15:59] <SSJ_GZ> funkja: Cool - good luck!
 eth1       Encapsulamento do Link: Não Especificado  Endereço de HW 00-19-7D-74-42-70-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
[15:59] <SSJ_GZ> funkja: If it works, remember to update your forum post with the solution :)
[15:59] <artur_> UP BROADCAST  MTU:1500  Métrica:1
[15:59] <stdin> artur_: to pastebin!
[15:59] <artur_> sorry
[16:00] <artur_> i`m not used to IRC
[16:00] <bonbon> ho un problema . non riesco a disinstallare un programma
[16:00] <bonbon> mi da degli errori
[16:00] <stdin> !it | bonbon
[16:00] <ubotu> bonbon: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[16:00] <artur_> how can i do it? paste in pastebin?
[16:00] <bonbon> ok scusate
[16:01] <stdin> artur_: it's ok, just go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, post all the text in and click send, then post the address back here
[16:04] <wraund> stdin: ty :D
[16:04] <artur_>  <stdin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45705/plain/
[16:05] <wraund> stdin: whey it worked, you rule :D
[16:05] <stdin> wraund: :)
[16:06] <deguz> is any hungarian person here?
[16:06] <stdin> artur_: hmm, I have no clue why it's printing like that. but the mac address is 00:19:7D:74:42:70 (just take out the 00's and replace - with :)
[16:06] <stdin> !!hu
[16:06]  * tekteen has been raised from the dead (ate breakfast)
[16:06] <stdin> !hu
[16:06] <ubotu> Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál
[16:07] <deguz> :)
[16:07] <deguz> thanks :)
[16:07] <stdin> :)
[16:07] <deguz> i try there too, maybe hungarian persons bought more this kind of laptop
[16:08] <fairyeneried> ok stdin, i'll try
[16:08] <fairyeneried> thanks for the help
[16:08] <artur_>  <stdin>, have a look. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45707/plain/
[16:09] <artur_> i did it...put : instead of -
[16:09] <stdin> artur_: apparently you need a specially patched version of the bcm34xx driver to use it
[16:10] <stdin> artur_: they usually have that information on http://www.aircrack-ng.org/
[16:11] <artur_> stdin: ok! thank u very much for the attention!
[16:12] <master_> okay so here's a random one, what is the package that will give me the sound settings dialog from ubuntu-desktop?
[16:19] <onishidato> i ahve install i softwear, but it doesn't appear. how can i make it appear now?
[16:20] <onishidato> i have install a softwear, but it doesn't appear. how can i make it appear now?
[16:20] <SSJ_GZ> onishidato: Which software?
[16:20] <onishidato> xunikey
[16:20] <onishidato> a soft allow me to type vietnamese
[16:20] <SSJ_GZ> onishidato: Did you install from source, or from a package?
[16:20] <Tm_T> onishidato: please don't repeat
[16:21] <onishidato> from package
[16:21] <artur_> stdin: I downloaded the patch that was required, i know what should i do now?
[16:21] <SSJ_GZ> onishidato: Try dpkg --listfiles xunikey
[16:21] <SSJ_GZ> dpkg --listfiles xunikey
[16:22] <SSJ_GZ> onishidato: (Don't paste the output into IRC, though!)
[16:22] <onishidato> IRC?
[16:22] <onishidato> !IRC
[16:22] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[16:22] <SSJ_GZ> onishidato: IRC == what you are using to talk to us with right now :)
[16:22] <onishidato> oh sorry
[16:23] <onishidato> :)
[16:23] <SSJ_GZ> onishidato: np :)
[16:23] <stdin> artur_: you have to apply that patch to the source code and rebuild it
[16:26] <artur_> stdin: thank's
[16:33] <SoulRaver> o/
[16:35] <SoulRaver> anyone have a good solution for .pls feeds?
[16:36]  * steel8 is away: Gone away for now.
[16:36] <SoulRaver> If I got it right from my googeling, I need to install propraietery codecs?
[16:37]  * Tm_T slaps steel8 
[16:44] <francesca_> ciao a tutti
[16:44] <francesca_> qualcuna sa come si cambia il colore del carattere nella konsole?
[16:45] <SSJ_GZ> !it | francesca_
[16:45] <ubotu> francesca_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[16:45] <francesca_> sorry
[16:45] <SSJ_GZ> francesca_: :)
[16:46] <scribbles> whenever I plug in my external hard drive I get this..... "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000", reads fine in Windows. Any ideas?
[16:57] <Arelis> How do i install my printer?
[16:58] <Tm_T> !printer | Arelis
[16:58] <ubotu> Arelis: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[17:01] <kaizon> Nabend.
[17:02] <Tm_T> ?
[17:02] <kaizon> Oh, sorry.
[17:06] <Radi01> Anyone there?
[17:07] <Radi01> Hello?
[17:07] <bazhang> hi Radi01
[17:08] <Radi01> Hey bazhang: What codec needs to be installed for amarok to play shoutcast.
[17:11] <Radi01> Was that a dumb question.
[17:11] <wastedfluid> I didn't know it needed a codec
[17:11] <wastedfluid> heh
[17:11] <wastedfluid> I google'd it.. and foun dsomething about a gstreamer, but i wouldn't think you would need it; can you play .mp3s?
[17:12] <Radi01> I havent tried.'
[17:12] <matttis> hello
[17:12] <wastedfluid> try
[17:12] <Radi01> k
[17:12] <wastedfluid> do you get an error when you try to play a shoutcast?
[17:12] <matttis> does anyone where the settings of Firefox are saved ?
[17:13] <Radi01> Yes but which Gstreamer file should be loaded There are many.
[17:13] <llutz> matttis: ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[17:14] <Radi01> Probably the same one for rythmbox Ill try.
[17:14] <matttis> llutz: thx
[17:14] <wastedfluid> hold on
[17:15] <Radi01> I was useing Ubuntu and decided to try Kbuntu and am just now getting around with it..thanks.
[17:15] <bazhang> Radi01: I believe it is libxine-main1 and libxine1
[17:15] <Radi01> K thanks.
[17:15] <bazhang> from teh google heh
[17:16] <wastedfluid> bazhang: what did you search for?
[17:16] <Radi01> Ok t/y bazhang.
[17:16] <bobishh> how can i configure my 7-button mouse ?
[17:16] <bobishh> =)
[17:16] <wastedfluid> ........
[17:16] <Radi01> imwheel.
[17:16] <wastedfluid> I'm not even going to start with that one, lol
[17:16] <llutz> Radi01: tray installing kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:16] <Radi01> k llutz.
[17:16] <bazhang> amarok shoutcast codecs install wastedfluid
[17:18] <Radi01> imwheel is touchy  takes time.
[17:18] <Exilant> scribbles: solved your problem? i have a similar one
[17:19] <scribbles> well
[17:19] <scribbles> what I did was run ntfs-config make sure everything was enabled, then you have to open the external as root
[17:21] <^|^> hi guys
[17:23] <Exilant> scribbles: yes, seems to be some settings problem. if i insert my usbstick, and open with dolphin(tried to change to konqui, now 2 pop ups), it gets mounted for root. Dunno where to look :/
[17:24] <Vamp0r> if i lock my session at kubuntu and close the lid of my lenovo t41 notebook and go away for some time the screen stays black and flickers and it is impossible to unlock the machine - does this problem have someone else here, too?
[17:24] <Vamp0r> aeh i use kubuntu 7.04 i forgot...
[17:28] <usern> yo
[17:28] <BanisterKelly> I could use some help.  I cannot update or upgrade.
[17:28] <BanisterKelly> I keep getting an error about Commit.
[17:28] <BanisterKelly> Breaking Package
[17:28] <BanisterKelly> Something like that.
[17:28] <BanisterKelly> This is a fresh CD install.
[17:29] <usern> try running apt-get from bash/terminal
[17:29] <BanisterKelly> Just the words apt-get?
[17:29] <BanisterKelly> I am new to this stuff.
[17:29] <usern> try sudo apt-get update
[17:30] <BanisterKelly> Probably shouldn't be fooling with it.
[17:30] <BanisterKelly> Okay.
[17:30] <usern> then sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:30] <usern> this should help to see the full error
[17:31] <bazhang> BanisterKelly: no worries, listen to usern
[17:31] <usern> I am quite new also - so any see me writing cr*p let us know
[17:31] <BanisterKelly> Thank you.
[17:31] <usern> sweet :D
[17:31] <BanisterKelly> I ran the apt-get and it gave an error and said to run 'dpkg --configure -a' so I did.
[17:32] <usern> ok now try upgrade again
[17:32] <Vamp0r> maybe you should use the adept package manager
[17:32] <BanisterKelly> Update did something but upgrade does nothing.
[17:32] <bazhang> the advantage to usern's method is to find the errors, though Vamp0r's method is generally good for no problem situations
[17:33] <Exilant> BanisterKelly: do what it suggests, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:33] <Vamp0r> it's the best invention since linux 0.0.1 :)
[17:33] <BanisterKelly> I did that Exilant
[17:33] <Vamp0r> oh ok...
[17:34] <Exilant> BanisterKelly: and it still complains?
[17:34] <BanisterKelly> No, so far all is well.
[17:34] <usern> sick!
[17:35] <BanisterKelly> I will try installing something to see if it works.
[17:35] <DocTomoe> Hi. I'm trying to get suns java to run in my openoffice on my heisty machine. I am at the config dialoge of ooo, but I don't know what path I have to enter. any suggestions?
[17:35] <matttis> Why does kubuntu only sometimes automount my external hd (startet after booting) ?
[17:35] <BanisterKelly> thank you usern and Exilant
[17:35] <jhutchins> DocTomoe: which java should return the path.
[17:35] <usern> DocTomoe open Teminal and type "whereis java"
[17:35] <DocTomoe> ~s/heisty/gutsy/g
[17:36] <TheGentleman> using Kubuntu 7.10, how can I see which wireless networks are available ? (Wireless card works fine)
[17:36] <DocTomoe> usern: java: /usr/bin/java /etc/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz  ... however, this seems to be the FSF variant, I really need the sun one.
[17:36] <DocTomoe> Need it for JDBC.
[17:36] <Exilant> BanisterKelly: thanks, but i didn't do anything
[17:37] <usern> is there a sun-java package available in adept anyone?
[17:37] <tekteen> usern: do u have backports enabled?
[17:37] <DocTomoe> usern, there are several in apt-get ... don't really like adept. and I have installed all of sun-java6-*
[17:38] <usern> adept installs things so nice its worth checking there 1st
[17:38] <tekteen> u need backports enabled though
[17:38] <hambobo> i deleted windows somehow, how do i get it back in ubuntu
[17:38] <DocTomoe> usern: adept fails to run without root privileges, even for "just looking", and fails to get proper warnings.
[17:38] <buzzkill3138> Look for kubuntu-restricted-extras.  It's the easiest way to get Java.
[17:39] <sub[t]rnl> TheGentleman: right clicking on the knetworkmanager icon will show available wireless networks
[17:39] <usern> ok DocTomoe I would start looking on Sun's site for answers
[17:40] <usern> going...
[17:40] <TheGentleman> not on my system sub[t]rnl
[17:40] <BanisterKelly> Anyone know how to get Penguin Command?  Its not under add/remove programs.
[17:41] <bazhang> BanisterKelly: it is in the gutsy repositories
[17:42] <TheGentleman> sub[t]rnl, it doesn't!
[17:42] <bazhang> !info penguin-command
[17:42] <ubotu> penguin-command: a missile command clone. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.11-1 (gutsy), package size 929 kB, installed size 1536 kB
[17:42] <bazhang> BanisterKelly: sudo apt-get install penguin-command
[17:42] <BanisterKelly> Where do I get it?
[17:43] <sub[t]rnl> TheGentleman: what does iwconfig show?
[17:43] <BanisterKelly> thank you bazhang
[17:43] <bazhang> BanisterKelly: see the message three lines up
[17:43] <BanisterKelly> I think this was a bad install of Kubuntu.
[17:43] <bazhang> no worries :}
[17:43] <wastedfluid> iwconfig shows all networking device info for your machine.
[17:43] <wastedfluid> well, the wireless extensions
[17:44] <TheGentleman> sub[t]rnl, it shows a working ath0 device
[17:44] <BanisterKelly> How come that works and the add/remove don't?
[17:45] <TheGentleman> sub[t]rnl, I can't copy the output here as it is a different computer
[17:45] <BanisterKelly> Thgis Linux stuff is confusing.
[17:45] <sub[t]rnl> TheGentleman: what Mode: is it in?
[17:46] <BanisterKelly> Need to make a run out.  Thank you to all for the assist.
[17:46] <BanisterKelly> Be back later.
[17:46] <TheGentleman> sorry sub[t]rnl , what you mean with Mode ?  The computer i'm talking about is a laptop, just next to this computer and it is NOT cable connected now
[17:47] <hambobo> any1 know about ubuntu?
[17:47] <sub[t]rnl> TheGentleman: yeah, when you iwconfig ath0, what do you see in the Mode: output
[17:47] <bazhang> hambobo: you mean kubuntu? :}
[17:47] <TheGentleman> Mode: Managed
[17:48] <hambobo> not really
[17:48] <sub[t]rnl> hrm
[17:48] <bazhang> hambobo: then you might look in #ubuntu
[17:48] <hambobo> but they wont help me
[17:48] <TheGentleman> sub[t]rnl, Mode: Managed
[17:49] <sub[t]rnl> yeah, wonder why knetworkmanager isn't showing the wireless access points then
[17:50] <usern> sub[t]rnl did you configure the wireless manually at some point?
[17:50] <TheGentleman> sub[t]rnl, right clicking on the icon shows a menu where only available choices are manual Configuration and Options
[17:50] <hackergene> hi ,all
[17:50] <usern> yo
[17:51] <sub[t]rnl> TheGentleman: whats "iwlist eth1 scanning" tell you
[17:51] <simion314> hi, my internet is working very slow and i am afraid that some KDE torent client is downloading behind the scene,is it posible? can i stop it?
[17:51] <sub[t]rnl> from cli
[17:51] <xsarr> ,,
[17:52] <sub[t]rnl> simion314: ps ax|grep ktorrent
[17:52] <sub[t]rnl> that will look for the default kde torrent client
[17:52] <TheGentleman> sub[t]rnl, why scanning an ethernet port when it is not connected? i'm talking about wireless
[17:52] <sub[t]rnl> TheGentleman: whats "iwlist ath0 scanning" tell you
[17:53] <sub[t]rnl> sorry
[17:53] <sub[t]rnl> whatever your wireless interface is
[17:53] <usern> anyone ever experienced application window, mouse click focusing issuses in kubu?
[17:53] <TheGentleman> sub[t]rnl, it lists 7 networks
[17:53] <usern> I regulary have to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to reload KDE
[17:54] <sub[t]rnl> good, then its picking up the networks
[17:54] <TheGentleman> including the one i want to connect
[17:54] <sub[t]rnl> you can connect to the essids
[17:55] <TheGentleman> yes, i told you the card works, problem is how to see the networks and connect without configuring everything each time
[17:56] <TheGentleman> I don't want to type a lenghty HEX password each time!!!!
[17:58] <heinkel_111> anyone with a good experience of getting video streams to work in kubuntu? Please read this topic with problem description: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?board=27.0
[17:59] <heinkel_111> I need the stream to work in like 30 minutes, need help!
[18:00] <sub[t]rnl> TheGentleman: right click on the knetworkmanager and go to options, is wireless enabled?
[18:01] <substancev> yo
[18:01] <substancev> is this a support channel?
[18:01] <matttis> Why does kubuntu only sometimes automount my external hd (I switch the hd on after booting) ?
[18:01] <TheGentleman> sub[t]rnl, I think so, as the option is in gray while the option unable it is in black
[18:01] <matttis> substancev: sometimes
[18:01] <tekteen> substancev: yes
[18:01] <substancev> ok apparently soo... i just installed kubuntu on my laptop HP Pavilion ... and it doesn't go into the gui
[18:01] <substancev> but ubuntu (gnome flavor) does
[18:02] <substancev> i used the alternate installation disk.
[18:02] <substancev> im using bitchx to chat right now since the interface is not available
[18:03] <tekteen> when it stars booting click Alt+F1 and then Alt+F8
[18:03] <tekstacy> 'lo again
[18:03] <substancev> oh shit...
[18:03] <pag> substancev, try the command 'startx' and see, if there're any errors...
[18:03] <tekteen> substancev forgot to use your name
[18:04] <tekteen> substancev: when it stars booting click Alt+F1 and then Alt+F8
[18:04] <substancev> f8 right now shows checking battery [ok] running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [ok] and thats it.. normally there is alot more
[18:04] <substancev> this is the second time i install kubuntu?!
[18:04] <tekteen> I have the same problem
[18:04] <tekstacy> when I try to run adept, I get the error that another process is using the database. But I don't know what. When I let it try to resolve the problem, adept crashes
[18:05] <sparr_> can i tell apt-get to use globs instead of regex for package name matching?
[18:05] <pag> substancev, ubuntu uses 'quiet' boot option in kerlen - removing that should help..
[18:05] <TheGentleman> sub[t]rnl, I wonder if anything is missing in my installation.....
[18:05] <pag> !aptfix | tekstacy
[18:05] <tekteen> when it starts to boot I click Alt+F1 and then Alt+F8
[18:05] <ubotu> tekstacy: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:05] <substancev> pag: so what should i do
[18:05] <tekstacy> pag, thanks
[18:06] <pag> substancev, well.. are you more or less confortable with using text interface (just to solve this problem..)
[18:06] <substancev> pag: im not new at all to linux... i been using ubuntu for a couple years... never encountered this.
[18:06] <substancev> omg... im so hung over... :(
[18:07] <pag> substancev, ok. :)  then open a new tty (alt+f2 should do) and type 'startx' - it should give you errors
[18:07] <tekteen> substancev: you need to edit the menu.lst file (I think)
[18:07] <tekteen> if there is no problem with startx
[18:07] <substancev> there are errors
[18:08] <substancev> pag: no screens found... let me get more detail hold one
[18:08] <Sam1337> Is it possible to change a dm-crypt password?
[18:08] <virnik> hi there
[18:08] <virnik> gotta problem with alternate install
[18:08] <virnik> friend of mine gotta old crap
[18:08] <tekteen> substancev: have you tried when it stars booting clicking Alt+F1 and then Alt+F8
[18:08] <virnik> install fails randomily
[18:08] <substancev> pag: thats it no screens are found and an error code and message related to the screens not being found
[18:08] <virnik> media is ok
[18:09] <virnik> ram is ok
[18:09] <virnik> dvdrw is ok
[18:09] <substancev> tekteen: well i am looking at the f8 screen now... f1 is this console... and f8 is the boot script console which i can see right now...
[18:09] <matttis> I don't understand it. Why does kubuntu only sometimes automount my external hd (I switch the hd on after booting) ? Now I had to switch it off/on 3 times and now the hd is mounted. Does that look like a software or hardware problem ?
[18:09] <substancev> tekteen: i think it stalled on the boot process
[18:09] <substancev> pag: brb
[18:10] <tekteen> substancev: ok
[18:10] <substancev> back...
[18:10] <tekstacy> pag, yay! it worked
[18:10] <pag> tekstacy, glad to hear that :)
[18:10] <substancev> pag: should i purge X?
[18:10] <tekteen> substancev: I find when I boot I get a blank screen until I do that. Then it gives me info about boot. Then brings me to the X display
[18:10] <substancev> pag: and reinstall it
[18:11] <pag> substancev, just reconfigure it..
[18:11] <substancev> ahhhhh
[18:11] <substancev> i know what it is now... the resolutions
[18:11] <pag> substancev, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:11] <substancev> i remember during the installation i must have set a resolution too high
[18:12] <loguser1> how can  i chang the logo or screen which appears at the start of kubuntu asking username and pasword k 7.10?
[18:12] <pag> loguser1, install kdmtheme package
[18:13] <tekstacy> If I partiton a hdd (to make it dual boot), can I make it one partition again later?
[18:14] <pag> tekstacy, yes you can, but it might require the formating of the whole HD
[18:14] <loguser1> pag:  that will do all?
[18:14] <zorg_the_false> q. i need the 'mkmf' tool. any idea in which package it is ?
[18:15] <pag> loguser1, that'll add a kcontrol / systemsettings module, in which you can change the KDM-theme
[18:15] <tekstacy> damn
[18:15] <loguser1> pag:  i wana chang the "kubuntu" logo too
[18:15] <pag> loguser1, you mean the one with progressbar at the very beginning?
[18:16] <simion314> sub[t]rnl:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45722/ :the output from  ps ax|grep ktorrent, i do not enderstend what this mean
[18:17] <loguser1> pag: no. the one with user name password
[18:17] <loguser1> pag:  i have installed it. how to use it now?
[18:18] <pag> loguser1, alt+f2 -> kcontrol -> system admin -> KDM Theme Manager
[18:18] <Flare183> does anybody know when the kde4 is coming out?
[18:18] <simion314> how can i see all the process running in kubuntu?
[18:19] <substancev> pag: got it...i needed libc6-dev libraries and latest nvidia drivers...
[18:19] <Flare183> simion314:> press control escape
[18:19] <tekteen> simion: open a konsole and type top
[18:19] <pag> Flare183, when it's ready.
[18:19] <emilsedgh> Flare183: December-January
[18:19] <substancev> i got X to start... going to reboot to see if it stream-lines in.
[18:19] <substancev> pag: thanks for the support
[18:19] <TheGentleman> sub[t]rnl, anything else?
[18:19] <pag> substancev, np. I'm glad you have it working :)
[18:19] <loguser1> pag:  where to get more themes?
[18:19] <pag> loguser1, www.kde-look.org
[18:19] <tekstacy> where do I find what loads on startup?
[18:20] <Flare183> ok thanks
[18:20] <tekteen> tekstacy: there are a few places
[18:20] <loguser1> thx
[18:20] <tekteen> tekstacy: startup for kde?
[18:20] <tekteen> the system?
[18:20] <tekstacy> yes, mostly
[18:20] <tekteen> which one
[18:20] <tekstacy> kde
[18:20] <tekteen> ok
[18:21] <tekteen> Kde holds it in two places
[18:21] <tekteen> one is session the other is autostart
[18:21] <substancev> pag: went straight to console
[18:21] <pag> tekstacy, by default, KDE starts only the apps you had opened when you closed KDE.
[18:21] <tekteen> you can modify the sessions in the kcontrol panel under the advanced tab
[18:22] <substancev> pag: how do i check what init im starting at?
[18:22] <tekteen> 2
[18:22] <simion314> Flare183: thx, i kiled the ktorrent but how can i stop it to try to continue the download next time i boot?
[18:22] <pag> substancev, strange.. but does it start x when you tell it to?
[18:22] <tekteen> substancev: the answer is 2
[18:22] <tekstacy> Apperently, a few things I ran, like kbluetooth, now think I want them everytime I start
[18:22] <tekteen> or is it 42?
[18:22] <substancev> pag: yes.. so im guessing its not set at the right init..
[18:23] <tekteen> :-)
[18:23] <substancev> tekteen: 2 is multiuser gui?
[18:23] <tekteen> yes
[18:23] <substancev> tekteen: whats the console init.?
[18:23] <substancev> man im hungover
[18:23] <substancev> big time
[18:23] <substancev> and i have numerous hickies on my neck and 200 dollars in the whole... no idea what happened
[18:23] <tekteen> substancev: there is none however 1 is singleuser mode
[18:24] <tekteen> I will look up how to change it
[18:24] <tekstacy> tekteen, other then session manager, where does kde keep it
[18:24] <poison--> !virtualbox
[18:24] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[18:24] <substancev> pag: any ideas?
[18:24] <pag> substancev, xserver should be at following runlevels: 2, 3, 4 and 5  (use sysv-rc-conf to check that)
[18:25] <tekteen> tekstacy: in .kde/Autostart/
[18:25] <tekstacy> Ahh, cool, thanks
[18:25] <substancev> pag: god i love linux.
[18:25] <substancev> pag: win32 enviornments are no fun to trouble shoot.
[18:26] <pag> substancev, also, reconfuguring kdm might do the job...
[18:27] <substancev> pag: how would i do that dpkg-reconfigure kdm?
[18:27]  * tekstacy hugs tekteen
[18:27] <tekstacy> Yay, I fixed it. thank you
[18:27] <tekteen> lol
[18:27] <tekteen> np
[18:28] <pag> substancev, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[18:28] <substancev> pag: i ran that and nothing happened
[18:28] <substancev> pag: no message nothing
[18:28] <pag> substancev, that probably means, it all went well.. :)
[18:29] <knights> I was trying to get my nvidia TV-out working using 'Screens and Graphics' tool. It said I needed to log back in so I did. My desktop is now at 640x480 and neither the 'Screens and Graphics' tool or the resolution changer will run, probably because of the desktop size. How do I get my old desktop back?
[18:29] <maverick_> hey, my files on the desktop like PDF files they don't show as icons there previews are shown instead of their icons...is there a way to show the icons instead of previews?!!
[18:29]  * tekteen is bored and waiting for mp3 player to charge off the usb
[18:29] <maverick_> help
[18:29] <substancev> pag: /etc/init.d/kdm restart blinks the screen and gives me a blank screen with cursor
[18:30] <tekteen> !resolutionfix | knights
[18:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resolutionfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:30] <tekteen> !resolution | knights
[18:30] <ubotu> knights: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:30] <tekstacy> knights, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:30] <tekstacy> er sudo dpkg.....
[18:31]  * maverick_ 
[18:31] <knights> tekstacy: OK, same command if I'm using the binary NV driver?
[18:31]  * maverick_ .
[18:31] <pag> substancev, oh.. I must admit I'm out of ideas then... sorry.
[18:31] <pag> maverick_, please, be patient.
[18:31] <tekstacy> um, sure......
[18:31] <maverick_> !patience
[18:31] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[18:32] <tekstacy> I think it is
[18:33] <TheGentleman> anyone knows why I cannot see avaliable wifi networks with knetworkmanager, while "iwlist ath0 scanning" shows several networks available?
[18:33] <Lynoure> TheGentleman: most common fix seems to be to comment out the wifi interface from /etc/network/interfaces
[18:34] <pag> maverick_, kcontrol -> KDE comp. -> File Manager -> Previews -> set the "maximum file size" to zero
[18:34] <TheGentleman> going to have a look Lynoure .......
[18:34] <Lynoure> TheGentleman: networkmanager has known throuble configuring interfaces that are already configured in that file. Try it out, cannot hurt as you can always uncomment the changes
[18:34] <TheGentleman> ok, tahnks Lynoure
[18:35] <Tm_T> maverick_: have you tried #kde ?
[18:36] <maverick_> pag: thanks a lot, it was so confusing for me
[18:36] <maverick_> Tm_T: should i?!
[18:36] <maverick_> Tm_T:   :D
[18:36] <pag> maverick_, np :)
[18:36] <Tm_T> maverick_: if you don't get it working, then yes
[18:37] <maverick_> Tm_T: it's working thanks though
[18:37] <Tm_T> roger
[18:37] <TheGentleman> Lynoure, what exactly do I have to comment out in the interfaces file?
[18:38] <TheGentleman> Lynoure, I can't see any "wifi" line there.
[18:38] <Lynoure> TheGentleman: If you pastebin the contents, I can show you, but pretty much anything except loopback is ok.
[18:38] <Lynoure> TheGentleman: I cannot see anything about what you have in there, hard to say what you have :)
[18:39] <TheGentleman> I can't pastebin: it's adifferent computer and it is obviously not connected....
[18:40] <Lynoure> TheGentleman: Then, unless you can type it out, above was the only advice I could give. Anything except the lines for loopback
[18:40] <TheGentleman> Lynoure, if you have a few minutes, i could manually copy the content of the interfaces file to pastebin
[18:41] <Lynoure> TheGentleman: see http://www.lynoure.org/blog/index.php?/archives/76-Solving-the-common-NetworkManager-problem.html for an example
[18:41] <TheGentleman> ok, thanks Lynoure
[18:45] <TheGentleman> Lynoure, you can have a look at http://pastebin.com/d2026b4f2 if you like
[18:46] <Lynoure> TheGentleman: if you want to use knetworkmanager, try commenting out everything starting from line 7
[18:47] <TheGentleman> i will try Lynoure .  By the way, are there alternatives available to knetworkmanager?
[18:48] <Lynoure> TheGentleman: Not using it is a popular alternative. :)  It all depends on what you are comfortable with.
[18:49] <Lynoure> and what you need to connect to, too.  (Though it has been a year or so since I used anything except manual configuration or knetworkmanager)
[18:49] <TheGentleman> Lynoure, I'd be comfortable with anything wich works and lets me use my wifi connection on my laptop!
[18:49] <spoolk> kk
[18:49] <ubuntu> salut tout le monde
[18:50] <ubuntu> ??
[18:50] <Lynoure> TheGentleman: Then you seem to be an a right track already.
[18:50] <ubuntu> server uk?
[18:51] <amnesiac> amnesiac is in the house ...running a bugy gutsy gibbon on the box ...but.it is nice ..THE GiBbON rules!
[19:02] <TheGentleman> Lynoure, I'm happy to let you know your suggestion worked fine and my laptop is now connected!  well, Thanks....
[19:03] <substancev> quit
[19:03] <Lynoure> TheGentleman: That's good to hear. :)
[19:04] <TheGentleman> I guess this malfunction with knetworkmanager is well known and already reported as a serious bug
[19:06] <Lynoure> TheGentleman: It has been around since Dapper, and I made a lot of noise about it then... So I suppose it would have gotten changed if it was going to. It's not necessarily a bug, sometimes you want networkmanager to keep its paws off some interfacees
[19:08] <TheGentleman> Lynoure, well, than it means the official documentation (at least in ubuntu) needs some addition to help people like me....  ;-)
[19:09] <TheGentleman> i wouldn't have solved this issue without your help... and I already read dozens of man pages, wikis and so on
[19:10] <Dresken__> Kubuntu keeps loading my motherboard soundcard as the default one, is there a way to remove that completely from the system and make it only have my creative soundcard?
[19:11] <Lynoure> TheGentleman: it was common enough problem a year ago that I felt I had to blog about it as I had spend a day or so getting it work for myself. Yes, it should be made somehow easier.
[19:11] <knights> Can I get PAL svideo TV-output under gutsy just using the nvidia-settings or will I have to edit xorg.conf?
[19:13] <Jack111> hi
[19:14] <Jack111> i have got the problem that xorg sometimes runs at 60-90 %cpu load when i switch on opera...
[19:15] <hambobo> how do i upgrade feisty fawn to gutsy
[19:15] <NickPresta> Jack111, can you say for sure this only happens with Opera? Are you sure there are no other processes or applications that could be causing this cpu load?
[19:15] <NickPresta> !upgrade | Jack111
[19:15] <ubotu> Jack111: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:15] <NickPresta> gah, sorry, hambobo look at the link above ^
[19:15] <heinkel_111> Jack111: solution, use konqueror ;)
[19:16] <Jack111> NickPresta: yes, pretty much only, the thing is opera has some nice things, so just handy
[19:16] <NickPresta> Jack111, I understand. I (used to) like Opera too :)
[19:17] <NickPresta> Jack111, does this load jump only when you start Opera or even when you use it and such?
[19:17] <Jack111> apart, akregator sometimes crashes and doesnt really work for me..so whats a good reader for rss feeds?
[19:18] <Jack111> NickPresta: as long as i use it but sometimes it goes down after a while ...
[19:21] <shearn89> anyone know which packages i need to install to get the base kde4 desktop?
[19:22] <Radi01>  Any idea as to why I lost sound notifications in pidgin/No one home in the pidgin channel.
[19:22] <Jack111> another question, which font do you guys think is most reader friendly?
[19:22] <shearn89> Jack111: sans.
[19:22] <Jack111> for screen reading?
[19:22] <shearn89> screen reading?
[19:22] <Dresken> Any idea how to set a sound card as the default sound card instead of the motherboards built in one>?
[19:23] <shearn89> Jack111: whats that?
[19:23] <Jack111> shearn89: is sans the name of the font or just the type of sans font?
[19:24] <shearn89> Jack111: sans is the name (i think). It is in Ubuntu, not sure whether its diff. in K.
[19:24] <yhoel> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:24] <yhoel> que hay de nuevo
[19:24] <shearn89> !es
[19:24] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[19:25] <yhoel> como configuro el sonido en mi pc con linux
[19:31] <MilitantPotat1> Hey, how do I enable boot logging?
[19:39] <sledge> /dev/md0              917G  336G  582G  37%
[19:39] <sledge> I like. :D
[19:41] <angel> !de | me
[19:41] <ubotu> me: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:43] <DexterF> upgrade erased the Windows GRUB entry, can I rescan or do I need to edit maunally?
[19:46] <Flare183> dexterf:> reinstall grub
[19:46] <Flare183> !grub
[19:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:46] <Tm_T> DexterF: both goes
[19:52] <aceler> Well... when I start IRKick, lircd dies....
[19:52] <ksal> hi
[19:53] <ksal> yesterday i asked how can ichange label of a disk
[19:53] <ksal> i changed it in dolphin and changes are notable only in dolphin
[19:54] <ksal> anywhere else (kickoff) it has old name still
[19:54] <ksal> so, somebody has any idea where i can change it?
[19:54] <ksal> it's not in fstab anyway
[19:55] <biovore> ksal: I think it has to do with the drive's volume label
[19:55] <ksal> hmm, so how can i change it?
[19:56] <ksal> i hope you understand that by label i meant name of a disk i.e. Kubuntu
[19:59] <biovore> Iksal:  think it has something to do with vol_id   (sudo vol_id </dev/hda1 or /dev/sda1>
[19:59] <biovore> will print out the volume ID info for the device..
[19:59] <biovore> volname will print the info for iso9660 filesystems
[20:00] <MilitantPotato> Can someone tell me how to enable boot logging?
[20:01] <Dresken> Bleh, now Kubuntu won't detect my sound card at all, anyone has any idea on how to fix this?
[20:02] <jpatrick> !sound
[20:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:02] <MilitantPotato> I've already tried setting /etc/default/bootlogd to yes
[20:04] <hambobo> is this right http://pastebin.com/d7027eb80
[20:05] <jpatrick> hambobo: in theory, yes, practise; no
[20:06] <MilitantPotato> hambobo: way different from what I have
[20:06] <MilitantPotato> http://pastebin.com/d4714f4be
[20:07] <MilitantPotato> thats mine for XP
[20:07] <MilitantPotato> Don't recommend copying mine though
[20:08] <MilitantPotato> wait I'm seeing things
[20:08] <ciacon> hi folks - can someone help me?? I did the following from the Terminal: "ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" --> "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted"
[20:08] <kinderen> hoi
[20:08] <ciacon> how does that happen?
[20:08] <kinderen> how's live
[20:08] <MilitantPotato> lack of sudo?
[20:09] <biovore> Network interface isn't active
[20:09] <ciacon> MilitantPotato: same result for sodu
[20:09] <heinkel_111> !pastebin > heinkel_111
[20:09] <MilitantPotato> is your net card enabled?
[20:09] <heinkel_111> !pastebin
[20:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:09] <ciacon> eth0 and ppp0 up
[20:09] <biovore> sudo mii_tool
[20:09] <biovore> should tell you if you have a link or not.
[20:10] <greco> salve !
[20:10] <ciacon> biovore: "link ok"
[20:11] <ciacon> biovore: "eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD flow-control, link ok"
[20:12] <ciacon> biovore: any other hints??
[20:12] <atlfalcons866> is kde and gnome the same speed
[20:13] <biovore> ciacon: not of the top of my head.. I have seen this problem before.. But I remember what it was..  Was something stupid..
[20:13] <hectorber> declan like kyle's best friend..
[20:13] <MilitantPotato> -***********************************`--*******
[20:14] <ciacon> biovore: I'm transcoding a vid @ the moment, but I'll try the banal reboot now in a few minutes;-)
[20:15] <ksal> biovore: it shows, that partition doesn't have any label
[20:15] <egulcin> hi
[20:15] <egulcin> I have sound problem
[20:16] <egulcin> can you help me
[20:16] <egulcin> I am turkish
[20:16] <hectorber> I think gnome is a little faster but kde is much more interesting
[20:16] <ksal> biovore: i'll chek man of vol_id for some info of changing labels
[20:16] <ksal> egulcin: what's the matter?
[20:16] <ksal> hectorber: and more powerfull :)
[20:17] <Exilant> !tr
[20:17] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[20:18] <ksal> xD
[20:18] <ciacon> biovore: I did "sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter stop" - that killed the problem
[20:18] <biovore> haha.. firewall your self.. haha
[20:19] <ksal> biovore: hmm it seems that vol_id can only print info about drive
[20:19] <biovore> ksal: depends on the filesystem.. for ext2/3 you can use tunefs to set it..
[20:20] <Concerned> hi folks....Im trying to get wireless networking to work! My card is ralink based
[20:20] <ksal> o, thanks
[20:20] <Concerned> any ideas?
[20:29] <ionus> someone please help me with install a theme in kubuntu
[20:31] <NickPresta> !themes | ionus
[20:31] <ubotu> ionus: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[20:51] <rodrigo> ola
[20:52] <ahmad> i have toshiba laptop with Realtek High Definition Audio suond card but there is no suond
[20:54] <ahmad> helllllllllllllllllllp
[20:56] <atlfalcons866> !compiz
[20:56] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:00] <ignoramus> hello all... need help converting video files...  I am making screencasts with Krecordmydesktop.  They get saved as .ogg files.  When i convert them to .avi to edit, they look terrible.  any ideas?
[21:00] <ignoramus> btw, i am using mencoder to convert the files
[21:02] <ahmad>  i have toshiba laptop with Realtek High Definition Audio suond card but there is no suond
[21:02] <Radi01>  I have Ubuntu,it Rocks/Just installed Kbuntu,it Rocks 2wice.
[21:03] <Exilant> ignoramus: probably you need a higher bitrate, it's an art i don't understand to get it done well, though
[21:03] <ignoramus> ahmad: have you enabled all sound devices in KMixer?
[21:04] <ignoramus> exilant: that's what im thinking, too.  Unfortunately, krecordmydesktop does not offer any qualities or alternative filetypes :(
[21:05] <ignoramus> ahmad: is your sound card being recognized? " sudo asoundconf list "
[21:07] <Exilant> ignoramus: can't you view the oggfiles directly?
[21:08] <ignoramus> exilant: yeah - they play fine in vlc, kaffeine, etc.  But when i need to edit the screencasts, editors like kino or cinelerra can't read .ogg files
[21:08] <ignoramus> hence the need for conversion :/
[21:09] <Exilant> yeah
[21:09] <Exilant> dunno though, only converted my science videos so far, where quality was not an issue
[21:10] <ignoramus> exilant: did you use a movie editor?
[21:10] <Exilant> no, combined frames created by simulation programs
[21:11] <Exilant> and then compressed them
[21:11] <ignoramus> exilant: sounds like a lot work
[21:12] <Exilant> creating the video was quite easy that way, mencoder has some plugin to read multiple numbered jpg/png/bmp files
[21:13] <ignoramus> exilant: mencoder is pretty good at converting, i will admit... did you know there's a GUI frontend for it?  Just found it today... much easier than looking up all the commands!
[21:15] <ignoramus> vzduch: hi there!  do you know anything about converting video files?  You're pretty good with other stuff...
[21:15] <vzduch> depends on what you're up to
[21:15] <ignoramus> well...
[21:16] <ahmad> no just intel card written
[21:16] <ignoramus> i'm converting .ogg files to something a video editor can read (like .avi or DV), but the quality is so poor once they've been converted.  any ideas?
[21:16] <ignoramus> vzduch: the original .ogg file quality is very clear
[21:17] <vzduch> I guess you should use lossless MPEG4 if your editor can handle that
[21:18] <ignoramus> vzduch: i'm using Kino, and it only handles .smil, rawDV, and .avi... :/
[21:18] <raylu> where is the screen resolution setting for the users stored?
[21:18] <vzduch> .avi is a container format for various codecs..
[21:18] <raylu> alternatively, why does switching screen resolutions cause my monitor to give "no valid input?"
[21:18] <ignoramus> raylu: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:18] <raylu> ignoramus, no, that's the specification for screen resolution; i mean the settings for the user
[21:18] <raylu> i have 1280x1024 configured, but I want a user to login with 1024x768
[21:18] <ignoramus> raylu: oh. nm
[21:19] <Dr_willis> Users can have their own.. but not sure where those are saved. :)
[21:19] <raylu> =\
[21:19] <Dr_willis> I just set the login screen to the lcd  max. and  leave it at that.
[21:19] <raylu> then does anyone know why setting it to 1280x1024 for the first time works but changing resolutions causes my monitor to say "No valid input?"
[21:19] <ignoramus> vzduch: i know... but what can i do to get the video editor to convert my files without losing so much quality?  or am i just stuck?
[21:20] <raylu> ignoramus, have you tried MediaCoder? or does that not run on linux?
[21:20] <Radi01> Will DeveDe work on kbuntu?
[21:20] <ignoramus> raylu: haven't tried it ... I install Mencoder, per the advice of everyone on ubuntuforums
[21:21] <Dr_willis> going from one lossy for format to another. will always degrade things a bit i hear.
[21:21] <_julio> que pasa psa psa
[21:21] <ignoramus> radi01: http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/02/05/150718.php
[21:21] <Dr_willis> of course i mess with recorded tv shows mainly.. so the loss isent that big a loss.
[21:21] <Radi01> k,thanks
[21:21] <Dr_willis> I tend to use that avidumix or whatever its called.
[21:21] <_julio> my hard disk is dead noooooooooooooooo
[21:22] <ignoramus> dr_willis: i tried that program, but it seems a bit complicated.  I just need to truncate and edit parts out of videos... nothing special. Its just that quality *really* suffers when converting from .ogg to a DV file
[21:23] <vzduch> Dr_willis: avidemux
[21:23] <_kjulio> donde puede comprar un  HD para laptop barato y bueno
[21:23] <ignoramus> avidemux is what was recommended to me before, but Kino is really good for beginners at video editing
[21:24] <ignoramus> _kjulio: www.newegg.com
[21:24] <_kjulio> al gun lugar en san isidro o sandiego
[21:24] <ignoramus> _kjulio: no importante donde
[21:24] <Dr_willis> i dont really edit.. I just convert. :)
[21:25] <_kjulio> para mi si vivo en tijuana
[21:25] <Radi01> avidumix?..for dvd's?
[21:25] <_kjulio> aqui en tijuana es demasiado caro
[21:25] <Radi01> oh k..ignore me.
[21:25] <ignoramus> dr_willis: i never did either, but i just installed krecordmydesktop, and its really cool for creating screencasts.  Just the part about editing them sucks =/
[21:26] <Dr_willis> dont make mistakes. :)
[21:26] <raylu> I get the feeling my xorg.conf is borked
[21:26] <Dr_willis> raylu,  i was thinking there was a setting that had to be in xorg.conf in order for the user to change the res.
[21:27] <Dr_willis> somthing to do with xrand?
[21:28] <raylu> xrandr - primitive command line interface to RandR extension
[21:28] <_kjulio> i need going the defcon conference 2008 in the vegas
[21:28] <Radi01> vzduch: does it work better than devede?
[21:29] <ignoramus> _kjulio: ?http://mx.yahoo.com/?
[21:29] <ignoramus> _kjulio: eres en tijuana ahora?
[21:29] <_kjulio> si
[21:29] <_kjulio> yes
[21:29] <vzduch> Radi01: no idea.. I just happen to know the name
[21:29] <vzduch> !es | ignoramus, _kjulio
[21:29] <ubotu> ignoramus, _kjulio: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[21:30] <Radi01> K,thanks/Im on the site but I dont want to break my sys.
[21:30] <vzduch> Radi01: should be available as a package
[21:30] <ignoramus> _kjulio: apesadumbrado no sé. =(
[21:30] <miknic> hello people
[21:30] <surgy> hi
[21:31] <Radi01> I see it says it will work on all sys but dont know about kbuntu being it is finiky to other pgms.
[21:31] <miknic> what are you doing  here
[21:31] <ignoramus> vzduch: sorry, just trying to help
[21:31] <surgy> anyone wanna join me for an idepth discussion on the topic of starcraft, join #kubuntu-offtopic :
[21:31] <vzduch> ignoramus: no problem w/ that, but in English, please, or in query or in #kubuntu-es :)
[21:31] <ignoramus> vzduch: gotcha ..... np
[21:31] <miknic> jjaa ok
[21:32] <riri> is talking about hardy here ?
[21:32] <raylu> also worth noting: xfce ran fine
[21:32] <ardchoille> xfce is nice
[21:33] <raylu> i'm guessing it doesn't try to reconfigure the display
[21:33] <vzduch> it is.. but *buntu used to have some bugs w/ XFce quite a while ago
[21:33] <vzduch> back in Hoary when there was no Xubuntu yet, e.g., there was something that caused Gnome to interfere w/ XFce
[21:33] <raylu> Dr_willis, RANDR is listed by xdpyinfo
[21:34] <Arelis> How do i set my default browser?
[21:35] <ardchoille> Arelis: System Settings > Default Applications
[21:35] <Arelis> ardchoille: I don't have system settings at the moment.. how do i install it?
[21:36] <ardchoille> Arelis: You on Gutsy?
[21:36] <raylu> ok...I think I know what the problem is... but I need to know how to disable one of my displays
[21:36] <Arelis> ardchoille: Yes.
[21:36] <raylu> my setup is actually a laptop connected by VGA to a monitor; the laptop's screen is broken and
[21:36] <raylu> xrandr --output LVDS --off works, but only for that session
[21:36] <sstchur> how com alt + f2 doesn't seem to work in KDE4?  is that by design, or because the software is still beta?
[21:37] <raylu> sstchur, actually, I believe alt+f2 is a *ubuntu thing
[21:37] <ardchoille> Arelis: Then you should have System Settings, alt+f2, type in systemsettings
[21:37] <Arelis> ardchoille: naw, i didn't install kubuntu-desktop, but kde-core. So i installed just the core of KDE
[21:37] <ardchoille> raylu: no, alt+f2 is not a kubuntu thing
[21:37] <raylu> oh :(
[21:38] <ardchoille> Arelis: alt+f2, type in kcontrol, go to KDE Components > Default Applications
[21:38] <sstchur> raylu: oh, that would answer it then
[21:38] <raylu> er...it doesn't :P
[21:38] <Arelis> ardchoille: the Default applications thing is not there
[21:38] <ardchoille> sstchur: install an rc1 desktop should tell you that there will be certain problems ;)
[21:38] <Radi01> They have it here http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=1840 Thanks vzduch.
[21:39] <ward_> Hi guys, Just installed Kubuntu 7.04 on my hard disc
[21:39] <vzduch> ward_: why not 7.10?
[21:39] <ward_> Now I need to update with  Adept?
[21:40] <raylu> ward_, yes
[21:40] <ward_> Because this was hte version I had on my bureau
[21:40] <ward_> 'desk'
[21:40] <ardchoille> Arelis: Then I think you're out of luck since you didn't install kubuntu-desktop
[21:40] <ward_> Is it good as graphic designer to install my Adobe CS3 design premium on Kubuntu?
[21:40] <ward_> Or is it better to use windows?
[21:41] <ardchoille> ward_: It's never beter to use Windows, IMHO
[21:41] <ward_> So you should advice me Kubuntu :) ?
[21:41] <simion314> stdin: hi, are you there?
[21:42] <ardchoille> ward_: What exactly do you design? I use gimp for all graphics design.
[21:43] <ward_> Photoshop / Illustrator
[21:44] <bjwebb> hihi
[21:45] <bjwebb> how do i get it to foreably fix apt, removing packages?
[21:46] <raylu> bjwebb, ..huh?
[21:46] <bjwebb> like apt-get -f install
[21:46] <raylu> Does anyone know how to get the equivalent of "xrandr --output LVDS --off" into my xorg.conf?
[21:46] <raylu> bjwebb, why won't it remove something?
[21:47] <bjwebb> raylu: because its broke
[21:47] <bjwebb> i want to tell it to do whatever it takes to fix it
[21:47] <bjwebb> including removing packages
[21:47] <ward_> Question I have A disc :c & a disc :d  in my pc. Can I set up a file server that accesses the C disc and maybe other external hard drives?
[21:47] <raylu> right..."because it's broke" is really not helping; paste the error
[21:47] <Dr_willis> ward_,   you can mount and access windows drives from linux.. so yes.
[21:47] <raylu> ward_, with other linux machines or windows?
[21:48] <ward_> I mean can I acces from kubuntu my windows driv
[21:48] <ward_> e
[21:48]  * ward_ test
[21:48] <Dr_willis> ward_,  linux can read/write to windows filesystems so yes...
[21:48] <bjwebb> http://pastebin.ca/796229
[21:49] <bjwebb> raylu: sorry, i jsut thought it was a very genearl question that could be answered easily
[21:49] <raylu> ward_, yes, google "ifs ext"
[21:50] <raylu> bjwebb, er...do you want kde4 installed or uninstalled?
[21:50] <bjwebb> either
[21:50] <bjwebb> i don't care
[21:50] <bjwebb> i installed it a while ago
[21:50] <raylu> then just uninstall it?
[21:50] <bjwebb> and all ive done recently is done apt-get update
[21:50] <bjwebb> raylu: but will it whilst apt is broke?
[21:51] <raylu> apt isn't broken, it's just that
[21:51] <raylu> two of the packages are modifying the same ifle
[21:51] <raylu> *file
[21:51] <ward_> And can I also acces
[21:51] <ward_> External hard drives?
[21:51] <bjwebb> no but apt won't let me do much
[21:53] <ward_> And wich prorgam do I need to use to for example write files from my network to this linux pc on the hdd
[21:53] <bjwebb> nvm i think ive fixed it
[21:54] <raylu> ward_, from windows machines or linux machines?
[21:55] <raylu> and yes, you can access external HDs; these are USB, i assume?
[21:55] <ward_> yes
[21:55] <ward_> USB
[21:58] <ward_> oh damn
[21:58] <ward_> I have a problem :(
[21:58] <ward_> There was an error isntalling MP3 support. You need to install the package "libxine1-fmpeg" manually.
[21:59] <ardchoille> ward_: sudo apt-get install libxine1-fmpeg
[22:00] <ward_> how to do?
[22:00] <ward_> sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[22:00] <ward_> It's my first time.
[22:00] <ardchoille> ward_: open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install libxine1-fmpeg
[22:00] <ardchoille> That will install libxine1-fmpeg for you
[22:00] <Dr_willis> time to get out some Bash/Linux tutorials. :)
[22:01] <ardchoille> !bash
[22:01] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[22:01] <Dr_willis> i forget which ones are all in the bots library. ;P
[22:01] <hydrogen> or
[22:01] <hydrogen> use adept
[22:01] <ardchoille> ward_: Actually, I believe it's libxine1-ffmpeg
[22:01] <hydrogen> as much as we hate to do so
[22:01] <Dr_willis> adept is for wimps! :P
[22:01] <ward_> ubotu :p thanks
[22:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about p thanks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:01] <Dr_willis> !bot
[22:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:02] <hydrogen> yep.. because everyone that uses a gui is a wimp
[22:02] <hydrogen> the fact that they have a monitor that displays more than shades or gray with a resolution of higher than 80x24 has nothing to do with it
[22:02] <ardchoille> I find adept extremely sluggish, I like synaptic
[22:02] <Dr_willis> ardchoille,  you and most people.. Not sure why its like.. click.. wait 10 sec... click next package... and so on..
[22:03] <ardchoille> Yeah
[22:03] <ward_> sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[22:03] <Dr_willis> real men use Serial terminals plugged into their.. noses. :P
[22:03] <ward_> Esudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[22:03] <ward_> damn
[22:03] <ward_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc
[22:04] <Dr_willis> close any other programs that are trying to install stuff. adept/ synaptic/ update/ugrader tools.
[22:04] <ardchoille> I remember seeing ksynaptic a while back.. not sure why it's not in kubuntu.
[22:05] <Ashex> Anyone compiled moviefly?
[22:05] <Ashex> The .deb package doesn't work for me. And when I tried compiling I got this error when running ./configure, http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/11/22/windows-software-linux-software/
[22:05] <Ashex> Er
[22:05] <Ashex> >.<
[22:06] <Ashex> configure: error: failed to find required module stringtemplate
[22:06] <ward_> Maybe he shows the error because
[22:06] <ward_> Adept  is updating?
[22:06] <ardchoille> ward_: Right. You can't have more than one package manager front-end opened at a time
[22:07] <ward_> Then I have to wait.
[22:07] <ward_> "update finished" aha nice
[22:07] <ardchoille> ward_: Wait for adept to finish, then close it and you can apt-get
[22:07] <ward_> nice I installed my first program.
[22:07] <ward_> Thanks for help.
[22:08] <ardchoille> ward_: :)
[22:08] <dsmith_> kubuntu locksup after a period of say a few hours when I walk away from it, any thoughts on where to start to look for issues?
[22:08] <ward_> I would like to make a "file program". Is that possible?
[22:08] <ardchoille> dsmith_: Is it locking and requiring a password to unlock, or does it just freeze?
[22:08] <Exilant> dsmith_: probably some suspend to ram/disk stuff
[22:08] <ward_> so when I put this pc on I can send with my notebook files to a hard driver internal / external.
[22:09] <ardchoille> ward_: Please elaborate
[22:09] <dsmith_> in the past, I was using the sceen saver. I just now shut it off..
[22:09] <Ashex> Does kubuntu take longer then usual to shutdown with Gutsy for anyone else?
[22:09] <Ashex> Or is it just me?
[22:09] <dsmith_> Exilant: I was thinking along those lines
[22:09] <dsmith_> this is a laptop
[22:10] <ward_> how you mean??
[22:10] <ward_> elaborate..
[22:10] <ward_> work out..
[22:10] <ardchoille> ward_: You can use the file manager for that, and you need to learn more about mounting file systems
[22:10] <ardchoille> !mount
[22:10] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[22:10] <Dr_willis> Time to start learning the FUNdaMENTALS
[22:10] <ward_> !thanks bot :p
[22:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks bot :p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:10] <Dr_willis> :)
[22:10] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: :)
[22:10] <Radi01> loo
[22:11] <ward_> You mean I have to make myself another partition?
[22:11] <Dr_willis> You normally install linux to its own partition..
[22:11] <ardchoille> ward_: I recommend these two sites to start with:  http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php  and  http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/index/C/index.html
[22:11] <BanisterKelly> Is there a way to have Kubuntu shrink down its windows so I can use 800x600?
[22:12] <ward_> Is there also a dutch site of that faq?
[22:12] <ardchoille> ward_: I believe there is a Dutch ubuntu channel, but I don't remember the factoid trigger. Dr_willis ?
[22:13] <thE_oNE>  I'm about to follow http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon to install my ati mobile radeon 9000 graphics card + the 3d desktop(Beryl) any other suggestions - better driver install guides?
[22:13] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Usually you can just resize windows and they'll remember that new size
[22:13] <dsmith_> ardchoille: it just freezes
[22:13] <ardchoille> !ati | thE_oNE
[22:13] <thE_oNE> ok thanks did try there was dead :(
[22:13] <BanisterKelly> Well, some things I run in 800x600 are too big and go off the screen.  I am trying to get used to 1024x768.
[22:13] <ubotu> thE_oNE: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:14] <thE_oNE> Thanks
[22:14] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: you can alt+right-click to resize a window
[22:14] <BanisterKelly> I use an nvidia g-force on this PC.  128MB AGP
[22:14] <ward_> lala
[22:14] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[22:15] <ward_> Linux is nice
[22:15] <BanisterKelly> Not that I know of,  Fresh install.
[22:15] <ardchoille> !nvidia | BanisterKelly Have a look here:
[22:15] <ubotu> BanisterKelly Have a look here:: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:15] <BanisterKelly> Live CD 7.10 install.
[22:15] <BanisterKelly> I am there.
[22:15] <ardchoille> Ok
[22:15] <BanisterKelly> I clicked on it the first time it appeared.
[22:17] <BanisterKelly> Sweet.  No more having to go to text mode to install drivers.  lol
[22:17] <thE_oNE> anyone using Beryl on Kubu?
[22:17] <ardchoille> !beryl | thE_oNE
[22:17] <ubotu> thE_oNE: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[22:17] <ardchoille> !compiz
[22:17] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:17] <thE_oNE> ah great thanks for the info
[22:18] <BanisterKelly> I am confused.
[22:18] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: ?
[22:18] <thE_oNE> Compiz is sexy guys
[22:18] <BanisterKelly> It says to go to advanced tab and there is no advanced tab under system settings.
[22:18] <BanisterKelly> Says to go to restricted drivers.
[22:18] <BanisterKelly> Don't see it.
[22:19] <BanisterKelly> As of Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) the recommended way to install the binary driver is to open System Settings KMenu → System Settings, go to the Advanced tab and click Restricted Drivers. Then click the Administrator Mode button and check the box marked Enable to install the driver. This should install the right package for your card and set it up for you.
[22:19] <BanisterKelly> I think they left something out.
[22:19] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Your system settings only has the General tab?
[22:20] <BanisterKelly> No tabs at all.
[22:20] <BanisterKelly> Just a start menu like the Windows 9x does.
[22:20] <BanisterKelly> But it looks all different, of course.
[22:20] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Which version of Kubuntu are you running? lsb_release | grep Release
[22:20] <ward_> Ok i'm going to sleep.
[22:21] <BanisterKelly> I installed from Kubuntu Live CD I downloaded this mornin.
[22:21] <ward_> Thanks for help guys.
[22:21] <ward_> CU
[22:21] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Yes, but which release? 7.10? 7.04? Earlier?
[22:21] <ardchoille> ward_: Good night
[22:21] <ward_> Thanks ciaaoo
[22:21] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Which nvidia card do you have?
[22:22] <BanisterKelly> lsb_release
[22:22] <BanisterKelly> No LSB modules are available.
[22:22] <BanisterKelly> lsb_release
[22:22] <BanisterKelly> No LSB modules are available.
[22:22] <BanisterKelly> lsb_release
[22:22] <BanisterKelly> No LSB modules are available.
[22:22] <ardchoille> lsb_release | grep Release
[22:22] <andy_123> hi there
[22:22] <thE_oNE> No LSB modules are available here also
[22:23] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Sorry, my fault:  lsb_release -a | grep Release
[22:23] <BanisterKelly> brb
[22:23] <thE_oNE> ah
[22:23] <BanisterKelly> I need to get the Mrs.
[22:23] <andy_123> is it possible to use thinderbird with local email delivery?
[22:23] <BanisterKelly> I am running nvidia g-force fx5200
[22:23] <BanisterKelly> Be right back.
[22:24] <neville> :/
[22:26] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: When you get back, I can walk you through installing the nvidia drivers for that card if you want.
[22:27] <Kohlrabi> "sudo envy -t"? *cough*
[22:27] <ardchoille> Envy is neither supported nor needed
[22:27] <ardchoille> !envy
[22:27] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[22:27] <Kohlrabi> hm?
[22:27] <Kohlrabi> OK, sorry :(
[22:29] <BanisterKelly> lsb_release -a | grep Release
[22:29] <BanisterKelly> No LSB modules are available.
[22:29] <BanisterKelly> Release:        7.10
[22:30] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: That's Gutsy. No idea why your system settings has no Advanced tab :(
[22:31] <BanisterKelly> I know I went to do updates and it kept crashing on a fresh install.  Something about something.  Cannot remember.
[22:31] <beefjerky> i am having problems with Knetworkmanager - it used to automatically connect to my wifi network.  Now it starts, and immediately goes to the white box with an X in it.  Upon right-clicking, and clicking on my
[22:32] <BanisterKelly> Ready. to install drivers.
[22:32] <beefjerky> SSID, it will connect
[22:32] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Well, I can walk you through installing nvidia drivers via the command line, it's up to you
[22:32] <BanisterKelly> Lets try it.
[22:32] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Ok, open a terminal
[22:32]  * Dr_willis is back
[22:33] <beefjerky> Also, there's a new entry under "wireless networks": hpsetup - wtf is this?
[22:33] <beefjerky> i just want it to auto-connect like it did before
[22:33] <BanisterKelly> Ready
[22:33] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Let's make sure your restricted modules are installed: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` | grep Installed
[22:34] <BanisterKelly> bash: pt-cache: command not found
[22:34] <ardchoille> you missed the "a"
[22:34] <ardchoille> apt-cache, not pt-cache
[22:35] <BanisterKelly> Installed: 2.6.22.4-14.10
[22:35] <bascule> beefjerky: is it in the trusted networks?
[22:36] <beefjerky> bascule: yes
[22:36] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Good, now we'll install the drivers: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[22:36] <beefjerky> bascule: there is a black X next to my SSID now, though =/
[22:37] <bascule> isn't that the connected indicator?
[22:37] <beefjerky> bascule: you know what - it probably is :)
[22:37] <bascule> :)
[22:37] <bascule> is the pass[hrase saved?
[22:37] <beefjerky> bascule: but why is there this "hpsetup" listed?
[22:38] <beefjerky> bascule: yup, once i click on my SSID, it will connect without having to enter the WPA
[22:38] <BanisterKelly> Done.
[22:38] <BanisterKelly> Thank you for the help.
[22:38] <bascule> that sounds like a wi-fi printer hp, just a guess
[22:38] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Now we need to enable the drivers: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[22:38] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: We're not done yet :)
[22:39] <beefjerky> bascule: yeah, but I don't have one, and there's no other houses around me... this problem started when i took my laptop out and connected to other wireless networks
[22:39] <BanisterKelly> Warning: your X configuration has been succesfully changed.
[22:39] <BanisterKelly> In order to take full advantage of the changes, X needs to
[22:39] <BanisterKelly> be restarted.
[22:39] <bascule> beefjerky: try removing them from the trusted networks, the other wi-fis that is
[22:39] <beefjerky> bascule: now i have this weird entry under "wireless networks" (doesn't really bother me), and it won't connect automatically
[22:40] <beefjerky> bascule: the other one isn't listed in trusted or untrusted ... weird, huh?
[22:40] <BanisterKelly> Ready.
[22:40] <BanisterKelly> Do I reboot now?
[22:40] <bascule> beefjerky: yeah, every network i habe ever connected to is in my list
[22:40] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Ok, now open xorg.conf for editing: kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:41] <BanisterKelly> Opened
[22:42] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Ok, in kate, go to the section marked: Section "Device" and you'll see the current Driver (it's probably nv)
[22:42] <beefjerky> bascule: what should my "default gateway" be set to?
[22:42] <bascule> the wpa you are using
[22:42] <bascule> wap rather
[22:43] <beefjerky> bascule: the ip assigned by the router?
[22:43] <BanisterKelly> Section "Device"
[22:43] <bascule> no the router's IP
[22:43] <BanisterKelly> 	Identifier	"nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
[22:43] <BanisterKelly> 	Driver		"nvidia"
[22:43] <BanisterKelly> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[22:43] <BanisterKelly> EndSection
[22:43] <beefjerky> as in 192.168.1.X?
[22:43] <bascule> yes
[22:44] <beefjerky> bascule: i should enter the same IP that i would enter in a URL bar to access my router config page?
[22:44] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: ok, you can restart xorg now, close/save all work and do: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[22:44] <bascule> beefjerky: exactly
[22:44] <TimS> I am looking for a cheap 20gb MP3/Video player compatible with linux, any recomendations
[22:44] <_michael> Hello I'm looking to upgrade to Gutsy, but I certainly don't want the full contents of the kubuntu-desktop meta package. Is there a way to upgrade only upgrading packages I currently have installed.
[22:44] <beefjerky> bascule: do i need to enter anything in "domain name"?
[22:45] <ardchoille> _michael: Are you running Kubuntu now?
[22:45] <Mr_President> hi everybody!
[22:45] <bascule> beefjerky: no not really unless you use multiple hosts ina domain that isn't in DNS records :)
[22:45] <beefjerky> bascule: nope... at least no problems there =)
[22:46] <beefjerky> bascule: ok, now that "hpsetup" has disappeared!  very strange
[22:46] <Exilant> _michael: there is, but dependencies just run amok if the metapackages aren't there
[22:47] <bascule> _michael: it will only update what is there in erms of downloads and installs, the packae lists reflect all updated versions though
[22:47] <Shao`> Anyone gotten a HP PSC 1110 to work with kooka and/or xsane here? It's recognized but kooka says it's not a sane scanner, and xsane just locks up when trying to select the scanner
[22:47] <gustavo> hi! can someone give a iptables basic rules? (for security) like anti-dos attack, ping of death... something like it?
[22:47] <_michael> ardchoille: Yes 7.04 and I don't want everything in kubuntu-desktop to be installed again since I've removed many things from it. Should I just manually edit my sources.list and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[22:47] <bascule> beefjerky: well I dunno what it was so I am kind of glad to here that
[22:47] <beefjerky> bascule: me too - now is there a way i can test to see if it will auto-connect to my network?
[22:48] <ardchoille> _michael: I think even that will cause problems. you really need to have the meta-package installed to have a safer upgrade
[22:48] <bascule> beefjerky: sudo killall NetworkManager && sudo NetworkManager
[22:51] <_michael> ardchoille: Ok then is it better to upgrade off of the alternate cd or from the internet?
[22:52] <ardchoille> _michael: Seeing that the packages in the repos are more current than those of the cd, I feel it's better to upgrade from the internet so you don't double your work.
[22:52] <ardchoille> !upgrade | _michael
[22:52] <ubotu> _michael: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:52] <_michael> ardchoille: Ok then thank you
[22:52] <ardchoille> yw
[22:55] <Mr_President> does kubuntu installer have a built-in partitioning manager?
[22:55] <Mr_President> i tjink i'm gonna need it to create my / partition...
[22:55] <ardchoille> Mr_President: Yes, the isntaller has a partitioner.
[22:55] <ardchoille> Unless you have special needs, the installer will handle that for you
[22:56] <Mr_President> oh, thanks for the help ;)
[22:56] <ardchoille> yw
[22:59] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: How is everything with the new drivers?
[23:05] <BanisterKelly> SO far no problems.
[23:05] <BanisterKelly> Can I use the 3D cube effect with the new drivers?
[23:07] <ardchoille> You should be able to
[23:07] <BanisterKelly> Okay.  I am looking it up now.
[23:07] <BanisterKelly> One thing I like so far is LInux has quite a selection of interesting programs.
[23:08] <BanisterKelly> I am installing 48 under Edutainment.
[23:08] <ardchoille> Yeah, the major benefit of Linux, IMHO, is the freedom to choose that which works for me.
[23:09] <BanisterKelly> I am new to LInux, but so far I like what I see.
[23:09] <BanisterKelly> My next challenge is to get a Windows 98 up and running.
[23:09] <BanisterKelly> Virtually.
[23:09] <andy_123> can anyone assist in setting up local email delivery with kmail
[23:09] <andy_123> somhow it does not retrieve the mail
[23:10] <andy_123> i have the mail in /var/spool/mail
[23:10] <ardchoille> andy_123: I just did that yesterday
[23:10] <Roey> BanisterKelly:  good luck wtih it! :)
[23:10] <chx> I have managed to pair kbluetooth with my mobile phone. Browsing to obex://[08:00:1f:87:ab:d3]/ still results in an error.
[23:10] <chx> Could not connect to host.
[23:10] <ardchoille> andy_123: On Gutsy, /var/spool/mail is a smlink to /var/mail
[23:11] <BanisterKelly> Thank you Roey
[23:11] <daffa> !dvd
[23:11] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:11] <ardchoille> andy_123: kmail > Configure Kmail > Accounts > Add
[23:11] <Shao`> Could someone please help me out with this error message: kooka: failed to open scan channel: scan/sane/hpaio ? Google gives me nada...
[23:12] <andy_123> ardchoille: well, anyway kamil refuses to pick it up, also evolution and it looks like thunderbird does not have this option at all
[23:12] <ionus> how to install theme
[23:12] <BanisterKelly> NICE! Thank you ubotu
[23:12] <ionus> theme
[23:12] <ionus> !theme
[23:12] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[23:12] <ardchoille> andy_123: What are you using for File location?
[23:12] <BanisterKelly> ardchoille, ever use WIn XP?
[23:12] <ardchoille> !thanks | BanisterKelly
[23:12] <ubotu> BanisterKelly: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[23:13] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: I haven't touched a Windows OS since 2001
[23:13] <BanisterKelly> I didn't know you were a bot ubotu.
[23:13] <BanisterKelly> WOW!  Thats quite a while.
[23:13] <BanisterKelly> I couldn't last that long.
[23:13] <ardchoille> Well, I don't feel the need for Windows while Linux exists :)
[23:13] <BanisterKelly> lol
[23:13] <MaTiAz> In a world without fences and walls, who needs Gates and Windows? ;)
[23:14] <ardchoille> MaTiAz: Exactly
[23:14] <BanisterKelly> I cannot live without 98 and my most used software/games, and especially DOS mode.
[23:14] <chx> I can send data to the phone with the OBEX push client but I can't browse the phone :(
[23:14] <MaTiAz> BanisterKelly: you could try dosbox :P
[23:14] <chx> BanisterKelly: dosbox
[23:14] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: I'd be willing to bet you can find equivalent apps in Linux for your Windows apps
[23:15] <chx> ardchoille: your bet is wrong, though. TortoiseCVS or SVN has no match.
[23:15] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Sadly, gaming is one area where Linux is still behind the times, but it's getting better.
[23:15] <neville> But this is a world WITH gates and walls, unfortunately
[23:15] <BanisterKelly> I don't play alot of games and the ones I do are mostly card/board games.  Hoyle is one I have loads of.
[23:16] <BanisterKelly> I don't like those war/fight everything/sports games.
[23:16] <andy_123> ardchoille: file location is /var/mail/andy
[23:16] <andy_123> i also tried /var/spoll/mail/andy
[23:16] <andy_123> no go
[23:16] <andy_123> and there is already mail in there
[23:17] <ardchoille> andy_123: You probably aren't able to get a lock due to not being able to write to /var/mail/andy. I use the "None" locking method and it works fine. Tried that?
[23:17] <BanisterKelly> Linux might not be big in the game department, but it does have one I will stay playing for hours.  Midssile Command.
[23:17] <BanisterKelly> Missile Command
[23:17] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Check out crack-attack and chromiumbsd
[23:18] <BanisterKelly> Never heard of those.
[23:18] <ardchoille> Addictive Linux games, they're in the repos
[23:18] <NickPresta> GNU+Linux has plenty of games. Whether or not they're of the same quality or have the same popularity as commercial games for Windows, that's another story :)
[23:18] <andy_123> adchoille: wow, this was it...just curious while it says 'use with care'??
[23:18] <ardchoille> NickPresta: Good point
[23:18] <ardchoille> andy_123: Not sure, but it has never caused a problem here.
[23:19] <andy_123> oki
[23:19] <andy_123> thanx, that was it then
[23:19] <BanisterKelly> As long as its a game that is fun to play, it doesn't need to be smancy fancy.  lol
[23:19] <Dr_willis> $50 pc games are agetting a bit pricy
[23:19] <ardchoille> andy_123: You could add yourself to the mail group and then be able to use Procmail lockfile, but something about that changes each time I log into kde forcing me to fix it again, too much trouble
[23:19] <Dr_willis> thenya got the tons-o-$20-a-pop-crud :)
[23:20] <andy_123> ardchoille: do you know a way to use local delivery with thunderbird?
[23:20] <BanisterKelly> Be back soon.
[23:20] <Dr_willis> I will confess that i can get most of the pop-cap games working with wine just fine. :P
[23:20] <ardchoille> andy_123: I haven't used tb in years, don't know much about it :(
[23:20] <BanisterKelly> Bejeweled 2 works with Wine?
[23:21] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Ah, I forgot about wine, that's another thing you may want to set up
[23:21] <Dr_willis> BanisterKelly,  Hmm not sure agou that one..  Bookworm Deluxe does,  Peggle does,
[23:21]  * BanisterKelly makes a note to install wine
[23:21] <Dr_willis> and many others.. some dont however.
[23:21] <Dr_willis> Some of those games i think are some sort of browser/flash thang.
[23:22] <BanisterKelly> Be back soon.  I will look up those games and the wine program.  Thank you.  Time to fondle Google.  lol
[23:22] <scrubb2000> !workspace
[23:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workspace - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:22] <juank> alguna niña de peru?
[23:23] <ardchoille> I'm not sure if he needs Spanish
[23:23] <ardchoille> !es
[23:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:24] <BanisterKelly> Do you know if there is a Linux version of Uno or Skip-bo?
[23:24] <juank> alguien puede ayudarme
[23:24] <juank> ¡?
[23:25] <NickPresta> !es | juano__
[23:25] <ubotu> juano__: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:25] <andy_123> juank: aki se habla ingles
[23:26] <NickPresta> sorry, *kicks tab conpletion*
[23:26] <astrid> Hi. Im using amarok to play last.fm streams but the skip button is not working. Is there any amarok channel?
[23:26] <NickPresta> astrid, #amarok
[23:26] <astrid> hmm... obvious, thanks
[23:28] <aro> #kubuntu,#ubuntu,#xubuntu
[23:29] <Dr_willis> #mythbuntu
[23:29] <Dr_willis> :)
[23:32] <navetz> how do i get a compiz button to enable compiz
[23:32] <lovre> OT - does any1 know where i can get unreal tournament for linux?
[23:33] <Dr_willis> isent the linux binary included on the  comercial cd's ?
[23:33] <Tm_T> should be
[23:33] <Dr_willis> I rember one of the unreals working that way
[23:33] <Dr_willis> I aint kept up. :) I did pickup Crysis and BioShock last night
[23:33] <Dr_willis> Gotta love  Day-after-thanksgiving sames
[23:33] <Dr_willis> sales
[23:33] <NickPresta> lovre, which unreal? The up-and-coming release of UT2007? or ut2004?
[23:34] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: umm, never heard of those
[23:34] <NickPresta> Tm_T, they're both great games that were recently released :)
[23:35] <Tm_T> ok so not interesting
[23:35] <Dr_willis> Tm_T,  youve been under a rock again.. it seems. :)
[23:35] <NickPresta> Tm_T, well, the engine for Crsys, made my Crytek, is interesting, to say the least
[23:35] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: I'm way too old for this
[23:35] <Tm_T> NickPresta: not to me
[23:35] <Dr_willis> Tm_T,  Yep. same here.. I suck at the First person shooters Online. but these are both good single player games
[23:36] <Dr_willis> it seems every Nov. the game cmpanies all realase the 'best' games they been saving all year
[23:36] <Craya> hi, i have installed kubuntu on a vm in windows xp ... the x window system is working just fine and resizes to my monitor width and height ... but if i change to console view (ctrl+alt+f1) the screen is just about 1/4th the size of my screen ... any ideas how to fix this ?
[23:36] <lovre> NickPresta: any UT, i dont think 2k7 is available for linux yet, so i think 2k4, or even 99 will do
[23:36] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: me, I tried Doom3 demo, 2 fps was best I got back then
[23:37] <Dr_willis> Tm_T,  and it was so dark. you culdent tell anyway. :)(
[23:37] <Dr_willis> 100+ FPS of solid darkness!
[23:37] <Tm_T> Craya: you have to tell prolly to tty:s to use higher res, how, I do not know
[23:37] <Dr_willis> i never did finish doom3.
[23:37] <NickPresta> lovre, http://www.linuxelectrons.com/features/reviews/playing-unreal-tournament-2004-linux
[23:37] <Dr_willis> well bbl. :)
[23:37] <Craya> thx Tm_T ... gonna man me through :-)
[23:38] <scrubb2000> What does "Workspace Down" mean on the menu that comes up when I right click on a window's title bar?
[23:38] <ronnie_> Hello, attempting to upgrade to Kubuntu 7.10, but the adept updater gives and error and stops at that point, giving "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." Is this any known bug ? Someone able to give me some help with it ?
[23:39] <Tm_T> ronnie_: ummm, hard to tell if it doesn't tell anything else
[23:39] <lovre> NickPresta: so you are saying there is installation for linux inside a DVD for windows game?
[23:40] <lovre> NickPresta: ok, thanks
[23:40] <ronnie_> if I try to disable the first two packages or something that it tries to update, think that would help ? is stil la problem, and weird thing is that this seems to be a download problem, I didn't see any problems during download, and if it were, everyone would have same problem
[23:41] <ardchoille> !sound
[23:41] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:42] <scrubb2000> Anybody?  Workspace down? What's it mean?
[23:42] <armando> hola agien que hable español??
[23:42] <NickPresta> !es | armando
[23:42] <ubotu> armando: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[23:43] <ronnie_> gonna try to cancel the updates of acpi, acpi-support and acpid
[23:43] <Tm_T> scrubb2000: if you have for example 6 workspaces, and they are set to be in 3-in-a-row then 1 is above 4 etc
[23:43] <ronnie_> nope.
[23:44] <scrubb2000> tm_t, workspace = desktop?
[23:44] <Tm_T> scrubb2000: yes
[23:44] <TimS> I have an .avi and I want to convert it and burn it to a DVD so that it is playable, how can I do this?
[23:45] <Tm_T> !info k9copy
[23:45] <ubotu> k9copy: DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1409 kB, installed size 2748 kB
[23:45] <scrubb2000> tm_t, but when I use the "workspace down" thing, the window vanishes from all of my workspaces.
[23:45] <Tm_T> TimS: see that
[23:45] <TimS> Okay
[23:45] <Tm_T> scrubb2000: interesting
[23:45] <scrubb2000> is there a keyboard shortcut to cycle through workspaces?
[23:46] <Tm_T> scrubb2000: here it is winkey-F1 etc
[23:47] <scrubb2000> tm_t, I'm running compiz.  Does that change it?
[23:47] <Tm_T> scrubb2000: well yes really
[23:47] <Tm_T> that's huge difference
[23:47] <scrubb2000> I presume they're documented somewhere for compiz?
[23:47] <Tm_T> no idea, ask in #compiz-fusion
[23:48] <scrubb2000> k
[23:48] <Carutsu> scuse me how do i find out if i have opengl enabled? I'm using an intel i810 graphic card
[23:49] <biovore> glxinfo | grep direct
[23:49] <nsh> hey, where's the beef
[23:49] <nsh> can i put my X windows into ascii mode?
[23:49] <nsh> that would be three shades of vanilla awesome
[23:49] <ardchoille> When I play music at a high volume level, it plays for a few seconds then the sound quits. A reboot fixes this but there has to be another way. How do I restart the sound system without rebooting?
[23:50] <Carutsu> biovore: thank you very much!
[23:53] <nsh> hello?
[23:53] <NickPresta> hi, nsh
[23:53] <nsh> nobody answer my question and i cry a little
[23:53] <nsh> but luckly has tissue
[23:56] <tung> I'm using ATI. When I install the restricted driver, the res of kdm become bigger than usual.
[23:59] <tung> the second thing is that when I play a game at fullscreen mode, the display is blank.
[23:59] <ronnie_> uh, is adept manager different from the commands used as apt-get ? when trying to upgrade to 7.10 by using adept manager, it fails, but when I used apt-get update and apt-get upgrade now, it works ... also gave something 'bout "packages kept back" ... anyone got an explanation to this ?