[01:21] <graft> yo is there any indication of when xorg 7.3 is going to be packaged for hardy?
[01:22] <mrsno> hey graft
[01:22] <mrsno> there is a blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xorg7.3
[01:23] <graft> neat
[01:24] <graft> what are the milestone dates?
[01:24] <graft> oh wait
[01:24] <graft> there it is at the top of the page, 11/29
[01:24] <graft> delivery: implemented... cool
[01:25] <graft> is this going into backports?
[01:26] <Hobbsee> no
[01:26] <mrsno> hi Hobbsee
[01:26] <graft> i guess this is too big a change to go in backports
[01:26] <Hobbsee> hiya
[01:26] <Hobbsee> far too big, yes.
[01:26] <mrsno> seems so graft
[01:28] <mrsno> not sure what the other distros are doing, with regards to 7.3
[09:06] <amikrop> Greetings. There is no doubt I love Ubuntu, nor I mean to be cruel, but I really believe this. There is no point in releasing a new Ubuntu version, if first, all bugs of the current version are not fixed, or you are 100% sure that they will not occur in the next version. I am not talking about Gutsy and Hardy, but generally.
[09:07] <Tm_T> amikrop: release new version when?
[09:07] <amikrop> The way things work now, bugs of the previous version gather, and more bugs (of the current version) are added, so there is no progress. I believe that you should consider this :-)
[09:07] <amikrop> Tm_T: What do you mean?
[09:08] <Tm_T> I mean foo
[09:08] <Tm_T> amikrop: anyhow, your point isn't quite valid, though appreciated
[09:09] <amikrop> Tm_T: I know, this way, new releases will be much more late than 3 months, but I think things will be more stable.
[09:09] <amikrop> Tm_T: Anyway, thanks for listening to my opinion :)
[09:09] <Tm_T> heh, although this is wrong place for this but thanks
[09:09] <amikrop> Oh, I am sorry. Which is the right place?
[09:09] <Toma-> amikrop➔ applications will always have bugs. its the responsibility of the upstream developers to fix them to be honest. the ubuntu folks just try to smooth over the edges and wherever possible provide patches and fixes.
[09:10] <Tm_T> Toma-: yup
[09:10] <Tm_T> amikrop: no need to be sorry
[09:15] <amikrop> Toma-, Tm_T: ok, and, thank you again
[09:15] <Toma-> np :)
[09:16] <Tm_T> amikrop: I always like to hear people who want stability over bling :))
[09:17] <amikrop> Tm_T: :-)
[09:38] <mauri> i've a problem wwith adept manager. It say: Anoter process is usign.......
[09:39] <Tm_T> in Hardy?
[09:39] <mauri> Tm_T: are you speaking with me
[09:39] <Tm_T> yes
[09:39] <mauri> Tm_T: in kubuntu 7.10
[09:40] <Tm_T> mauri: see topic
[09:41] <mauri> Tm_T: today, when i updated the system, while adept is installign the packets, it say: some packets was break .....  and all does not finished
[09:43] <nanonyme> erm, if you weren't trying to upgrade from gutsy to hardy, this is still the wrong channel ;)
[09:47] <mauri> i've a problem wwith adept manager. It say: Anoter process is usign.......
[09:48] <Tm_T> mauri: #ubuntu
[09:48] <nanonyme> actually #kubuntu
[09:48] <nanonyme> probably
[09:48] <Tm_T> nanonyme: both
[09:49] <Tm_T> but not this one
[09:49] <mauri> Tm_T: im using kubuntu 7.10
[09:49] <nanonyme> mauri, this is not 7.10 channel
[09:50] <mauri> nanonyme: sorry
[09:51] <nanonyme> Tm_T, btw, does my maths fail me or would it be 8.04 that is currently under work here?
[09:51] <Tm_T> that is Hardy Heron yes
[09:53]  * nanonyme chuckles at the idea that we'll eventually hit ubuntu 10.10
[09:54] <nanonyme> anyway, carry on, going back to what i was doing
[16:51] <Laser87> Hi everybody!
[17:20] <Teisei> Hello :)
[17:21] <Teisei> I love this new 8.04 ... works as smoothly as 7.10, but there's some kind of problem with Update Manager
[17:35] <bsm> hi, anyone knows where I can get a kernel packge with kernel 2.6.23 or 24 for ubuntu? its not in hardy till now, is it?