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PriceChildCould we please discuss what has happenned with the US LoCo channel naming? I was not online last night and have only heard it from there point of view.00:05
PriceChild*their00:06
PriceChild(gnine asked me in pm about his ban in -offtopic)00:46
GNineyes00:46
PriceChildping elkbuntu 00:48
PriceChild!o4o00:51
ubotuSome things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-ops. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.00:51
PriceChilds/-ops/-offtopic/00:51
PriceChild!guidelines00:51
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines00:51
PriceChildCould you read those two please GNine?00:51
PriceChildPing me when done.00:51
GNinewhat am i looking for in those articles00:52
Seeker`GNine: You are expected to read them through00:53
GNinei broke the rule i got banned. fine. i want access. so am asking for it. 00:53
Seeker`I suspect it is to help you understand how you should behave in ubuntu channels00:54
GNinei know how to behave in ubuntu channels. that i broke the rule according to whichever op is past tense now.  i guarantee you i could dig up much worst violations that have not been 'prosecuted' for whatever reason. sort of like in real life.00:56
PriceChildGNine, I would rather you read the guidelines, to understand what we expect you to abide by in future.00:56
GNineam not upset though.  i just want access to media. i , am a collabotator or, supporter , of the ubuntu cause , or movement.  if i didnt have the system installed i wouldnt be around these servers00:57
PriceChildI'm not asking you to sign your life away... just five minutes to confirm that you have read the guidelines.00:58
GNinealright. done reading.01:03
PriceChildWoohoo... and wow 5 minutes 18 seconds... I'm psychic.01:05
PriceChildGNine, ok so if I let you into -offtopic again, you understand we expect you to abide by those guidelines etc. etc. and just use your common sense? Ie not testing the limits when an op is dealing with another user?01:05
GNine10-401:06
PriceChild*isn't in the military or wherever you use those numbers*01:06
GNinethats Citizens Band code. also named 10-codes .  and also use (in part) in law enforcement as well as in the military .  01:07
PriceChildGNine, could you give me a linky to where they're explained? I've always wanted to know what they all mean. You may rejoin #ubuntu-offtopic01:08
GNinethere are 200 10-code codes01:08
Seeker`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten-code01:09
GNinethats a start01:09
GNineand, thank you01:09
PriceChildthank you too GNine 01:10
* GNine is away: turkey dinner01:19
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* GNine is away: 01:22
naliothGNine: please turn that off  :)01:25
GNineyah.. am trying. my mistake. am out 01:26
PriceChildnalioth, been talking about it in -offtopic01:26
LjLnalioth, PriceChild, i don't quite agree though that we should have some channels with one naming convention and others with a different one. that doesn't help users, although it might make some loco people happier...01:53
LjLas i said yesterday01:53
LjLthe world has many countries01:53
LjLsaid countries often are big enough to have regions01:53
LjLsince there's about 200 countries each with its regions, name clashes just will occur01:53
LjLthe US isn't the only country entitled to have sub-country loco channels i believe01:53
LjLbesides, for those channels that *don't* clash, forwards can be and are set01:54
PriceChildOk yes.01:55
LjLnobody's saying they just all have to do it overnight01:56
naliothnot at all01:56
PriceChildThat's pretty much the impression they've gotten though I think.01:56
PriceChildmeh I can't remember what I was thinking a few hours ago.01:57
LjLPriceChild, for what i'm concerned, they have all rights to first arrange with the bot owners of any bots that are in their channel (such as ubotu to begin with) to move to the new channels, and they can do the move when they have time01:57
LjLbut eventually i also think they should move01:57
LjLnalioth, the reason my bots kept spamming -unregged since 21 to 23 (and more) seems to be that chanserv wasn't replying to their pings. on the other hand, it must have replied to flootbot3, otherwise it would have dropped the limit... could there be any reason why chanserv started ignoring them?02:02
naliothno clue, LjL 02:04
LjLoh, uhm, actually, i was grepping the logs incorrectly02:07
LjLi know why they did that. same reason as yesterday's apparent misbehavior02:07
LjLmore than 50 users difference between channel and limit02:07
LjLand due to the "safe" algorithm i use, it takes a *long* time for the limit to catch up again with the users count02:07
LjLso they stayed in emergency mode all that time02:08
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Hobbsee!ping02:47
ubotupong02:47
Dave2the bots cheat, they never miss returning the ball.02:49
TheSheepDave2: they do. on netsplits.02:58
ubotuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, recon said: !no, recon is <reply> recon stands for reconnect.02:59
LjL!recon-#ubuntu-offtopic is <reply> recon stands for something related to lousy Internet service providers.03:02
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL03:02
crdlbUbotwo: ping03:02
ompaulahh dude he forgots what it was he was03:02
* ompaul goes back to sleep03:02
crdlbmissed that one :p03:02
ompaulLjL, forget what I said - I need to sleep :)03:03
* ompaul goes to the land of nond03:03
ompaulnod03:03
LjLnight ompaul :)03:03
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Paddy_EIREhey Pici I think you mentioned once you have all your join/part messages set to anther window on your irc client04:04
Paddy_EIRE?04:04
ubotuastro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (multiverse)07:41
ubotumultiverse called the ops in #ubuntu (astro76)07:41
Madpilotdealt with. 07:43
ubotuastro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (Imperium)07:48
nixternalmy god, the image that imperium posted was horrid07:50
stdinyou should know not to click on random links by now :07:54
stdin*:p07:54
tritiumnixternal: the scary thing is those who enjoy violence towards animals would likely enjoy violence towards humans07:57
nixternaltritium: please don't bring that up...I watched the PETA movie on HBO today called "I am an animal" and I literally almost cried at some of the crap I seen07:58
nixternalstdin: I click on them to see if they are ban worthy instead of taking someone elses word for it07:58
tritiumnixternal: oh yeah?07:59
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nixternaldude it was horrible...they showed videos of skinners from like the 70s and 80s that was god awful man08:00
tritiumI can only imagine.08:01
nixternalworse than anything faces of death ever showed08:01
nixternalis FloodBot* going to receive a name change before he goes live in a main channel?08:02
nixternalI know if I was in a main channel and seen floodbot, I would get all of my 1337 5c|2ip7 k1ddi3z after um :p08:03
tritiumboth sounds like movies I'll avoid watching, then08:03
nixternalfaces of death was a hoax, but still showed some gruesom stuff08:03
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Davieyisn't it ironic that FloodBot* is flooding this channel? :D10:51
Garyhaha10:51
Garyyeah10:51
DavieyGary: o/10:52
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ubotuJuhaz called the ops in #ubuntu ()14:17
Tm_Twhere is all ops14:17
Tm_T.14:18
Tm_Tthis is bit silly14:18
Tm_That here but not in #ubuntu(-offtopic)14:18
Tm_Tstdin: I'm becoming frustrated14:20
stdinwhat's up Tim_T :p14:20
HobbseeTm_T: you need ops?14:21
Tm_THobbsee: not currently14:21
HobbseeTm_T: keep 'em anywya.14:21
Tm_Troger14:21
HobbseeTm_T: and ask for permanent ones14:21
Tm_THobbsee: I have asked14:21
Tm_Tand I did get14:22
PriceChildTm_T, who'd you ask?14:22
Tm_T...to here14:22
Tm_Tseveas14:22
PriceChildTm_T, seveas isn't the contact anymore14:22
Tm_Twell he atleast had rights back then14:22
PriceChildTm_T, fixed14:23
Tm_Tthank you sir14:23
PriceChildTm_T, are you not in ubuntu-irc?14:24
Tm_TI am14:24
PriceChildaha got you14:25
Tm_TPriceChild: :)14:26
Tm_Tand I'm sorry if anyone felt that I'm complaining to us ops, it was towards spammers not you/us14:28
Seeker`who do you ask for permanent ops?14:36
naliothSeeker`: you don't.14:36
Tm_Thah14:37
Tm_TI so waited that answer14:37
Seeker`Hobb see told Tm_T to ask for permanent ops...14:38
naliothbut he didn't14:38
naliothand neither should you14:38
Seeker`if he was going to, who would he ask?14:38
Tm_TSeeker`: prolly sabdfl14:39
Tm_Tjust to get k-lined or so14:39
Garyhaha14:39
Tm_TI wonder if he btw has op rights at all anywhere14:39
elkbuntuTm_T, i'm pretty sure he doesnt14:42
Seeker`i suspect that if he wanted them he would get them14:43
Tm_Telkbuntu: that's what I assume14:43
elkbuntuSeeker`, i doubt he wants/has time for them14:44
Tm_Tyup14:44
Tm_Tnor has needs14:44
Garywhats he doing at the mo?14:44
Tm_TGary: ?14:45
GaryMark Shuttleworth - whats he doing?  ie what does he do each day14:45
Tm_Tah14:45
elkbuntuGary, he has lots of meetings and so forth most days14:45
stdinhe works on world domination14:46
Tm_Tstdin: aren't we all?14:46
stdinnot for ubuntu, just for himself :p14:46
Tm_Tnooooooooooooo14:46
Garymust be a boring life - full of meetings14:46
Garyi'd hate that14:47
Garydoes he have any hobbies, not including overpriced commuting14:47
PriceChildwell he does do some developing...14:47
DavieyGary: I think he collects stamps :)14:47
elkbuntuGary, go to markshuttleworth.com and read14:47
DavieyAnd I think he's also into DIY Taxidermy14:48
elkbuntusurely you're making stuff up now14:49
Garyhaha14:49
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poeloqHey guys18:39
PriceChildHey poeloq.18:39
poeloqwhat is the normal procedure to become a #ubuntu op?18:39
tritiumpoeloq: you start by not asking to become one18:40
poeloqtritium: that is what I expected :)18:40
PriceChildYou're asking about #ubuntu in particular...18:40
PriceChildYou get asked by the Ubuntu IRC Council (the channel contact) to op.18:40
poeloqyes, that is the only channel I am currently helping on18:41
poeloqPriceChild: Thanks! 18:41
PriceChildWe normally choose new ops from those helping lots when we feel we need more ops.18:41
Tm_TPriceChild: yup, normally18:41
poeloqcool, that seems like the best way. It doesn't seem like there is a big need for too many OPs as it is18:41
poeloqnot much silliness going on over there18:42
tritiumit varies18:42
PriceChildFriday nights on school holidays noticably different.18:43
poeloqPriceChild: I can imagine :)18:43
poeloqLuckily private messaging is disable for unregistered users18:43
poeloqOn DalNet it is crazy18:43
poeloqIs idling allowed/encourage on #ubuntu18:44
tritiumThere is no problem with idling, poeloq 18:45
poeloqcool18:46
crdlbcan you imagine if those 1200 people *weren't* mostly idling? :)18:46
poeloqthat would be quite crazy :) 18:46
poeloqThat is one of the disadvantages of big IRC rooms18:46
PriceChildpoeloq, no it isn't....18:46
PriceChildpoeloq, by default... you don't accept messages from unregistered users.18:46
PriceChildUbuntu IRC ops are suggested to turn that "feature" off.18:46
poeloqPriceChild: Of course, that seems like a reasonable thing. I would be annoyed if I couldn't contact any Ops by /msg. 18:48
poeloqAnd Freenode is a lot more grown up than many other networks18:48
poeloqI am off19:15
poeloqthanks guys19:15
PriceChildHi jimmacdonald, can I help?19:53
jimmacdonaldPriceChild:  no man I am good... things are setup perfectly.... just lurking.19:58
* tritium points jimmacdonald to the /topic19:59
* jimmacdonald Lurks away.19:59
tritiumI didn't _ask_ him to leave...20:00
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PriceChildnalioth, could you set me as contact for #ubuntu-us-ne please?20:22
PriceChild*thinks we should all poke a certain someone at once to get the gcf sorted*20:24
GaryI dread to think how many outstandings there are20:25
vorianPriceChild, New York has a squatter20:25
vorianalso20:26
vorian:)20:26
vorian-us-ny20:26
PriceChildnalioth, could you give me #ubuntu-us-ny too please?20:26
crdlbthe gcf? don't you already have that? :)20:27
PriceChildcrdlb, nope...20:27
crdlbyou need another GCF for #ubuntu-us* ?20:27
PriceChildcrdlb, no20:28
PriceChildcrdlb, the old gcf is in effect... is seveas20:28
crdlbah20:28
PriceChildcrdlb, we're waiting for a new one to be approved, listing the 4 of us for #ubuntu,go,k.x.edu,20:28
Seeker`GCF?20:41
crdlbgroup contact form20:42
crdlbit's the only way to "repossess" # channels in a certain namespace20:42
PiciGCF sounds like some sort of video game faction20:46
PumpernickelGameCube Forum20:48
PiciGround Control Force20:48
uboturr72 called the ops in #ubuntu-chicago ()20:50
nixternalnevermind that idiot20:50
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