[00:00] <astrid> Hi. Im using kubuntu 7.10 and currently / and /home are in the same partition. I want that /home point to another partition in my disc (currently, /media/Documents). I moved all files from / to /media/Documents using konqueror and changed fstab, but after reboot  kde couldnt start, so i had to restore fstab. How can i change the location of /home??
[00:01] <Radi01> .
[00:04] <ronnie_> astrid: I'm not sure, but I think perhaps that's something need to be changed when you make the user/group..
[00:05] <ronnie_> so, does anyone have an idea why adept manager behaves differently from command-line usage ?
[00:06] <ronnie_> kind of annoying when you've finally found a usable linux for someone that doesn't spend 22hours of the day nerding by the computer, and the so-called super stability everyone talks 'bout breaks in a thousand pieces..
[00:07] <Tm_T> ronnie_: erm?
[00:07] <ronnie_> *sigh*
[00:07] <Exilant> i doubt adept calls apt-get
[00:08] <Tm_T> adept and apt-get are totally different apps
[00:08] <Tm_T> there's no command-line usage in adept really
[00:08] <ronnie_> they are ? how come ?
[00:08] <Exilant> i think they both call dpk and stuff
[00:08] <Tm_T> ronnie_: there's like 100 different apps you can use for apt
[00:09] <Tm_T> ronnie_: most famous are: adept, synaptic, apt-get, aptitude and wajig
[00:09] <ronnie_> dpk is a system general to debian, and apt is for ubuntu ?
[00:09] <Tm_T> no
[00:09] <Tm_T> apt uses dpkg
[00:10] <ronnie_> oh ok
[00:10] <posingaspopular> hey all I have a philips go gear on mp3 player and everytime i try to mount it I get the following error: mount:wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sde1, missing codepage or helper program
[00:10] <ronnie_> wich system would be the easiest, yet most reliable for updating/upgrading ?
[00:10] <Tm_T> posingaspopular: what filesystem it has?
[00:10] <posingaspopular> i should mention it is one of those 'OMG windows is awesome!!one1' types
[00:10] <posingaspopular> Tm_T: fat32
[00:10] <Tm_T> ronnie_: I would say wajig, but for you prolly synaptic
[00:10] <posingaspopular> i can paste the dmesg | tail output
[00:11] <ronnie_> Tm_T: thanks. wajig, is that command-line based ?
[00:12] <Tm_T> yes, actually it is just "wrapper" for apt-get and friends
[00:12] <ronnie_> I'm not new to linux, just been quite a while since I played around with it, and have been impressed over the user-friendly kubuntu.
[00:13] <Tm_T> roger
[00:16] <ronnie_> if I remove adept from my system, and install synaptic, will it behave the same way? I'm thinking of when new packages are available, will it give a warning ?
[00:17] <darkness_s> hi everybody
[00:19] <Exilant> ronnie_: yes, they are pretty similar
[00:19] <darkness_s> hey, if i install gnome in kubuntu, should i leave kdm as default, or should i choose gdm?
[00:19] <Exilant> synaptic is quite good
[00:20] <sam64> how can I make OpenGL work in gutsy?
[00:20] <posingaspopular> darkness_s: depends on if you want gnome or kde as your desktop manager
[00:20] <ronnie_> Exilant: great thanks, I also see adept has several packages, adept, adept-manager, adept-updater etc, is synaptic one complete of all these ?
[00:21] <darkness_s> posingaspopular: i want to keep kde, but i want to test gnome
[00:21] <Exilant> ronnie_: i think so, though it might require some extra packages on a really pure kde system
[00:22] <posingaspopular> im pretty sure you can swap out between dm's if you want at login
[00:23] <ronnie_> Exilant: Ok thank you
[00:23] <darkness_s> posingaspopular: thanks
[00:24] <excitatory> darm
[00:24] <excitatory> ,
[00:24] <excitatory> argh
[00:25] <excitatory> darkness_s: download the ubuntu livecd and give gnome a try..if you want to install it, keeping kdm will work just fine.. but as posingaspopular said, if you end up going gnome full time, it would probably make more sense to switch to gdm
[00:26] <joseph> i just downloaded google earth linux and its sitting on my desktop as a .bin   how do i install it?
[00:27] <joseph> i just downloaded google earth linux and its sitting on my desktop as a .bin   how do i install it?
[00:27] <michael> just installed kubuntu  and finished the updates and all. When adept was done, it told me that there was a new version available and to click next to continue
[00:27] <needles> hi there, im trying to burn an mpeg to dvd media
[00:27] <needles> i dont seem to know a program for linux that does that
[00:27] <ronnie_> joseph: can you rightclick it and see if the DM can choose program to run it with ?
[00:27] <needles> would anyone be able to offer some suggestions?
[00:27] <ronnie_> needles: K3B
[00:28] <needles> k3b doesn't author mpegs
[00:28] <joseph> open with wine or open with other
[00:28] <needles> ronnie_: i mean like, mpeg to dvd format for a dvd player
[00:28] <ardchoille> needles: iirc, devede can do that
[00:28] <ronnie_> needles: hm, I was sure k3b handled that, but I could be wrong hehe
[00:28] <darkness_s> excitatory: thank you
[00:30] <tazz> i am using kubuntu 7.10, how do i findout my dbus version?
[00:31] <michael> just installed kubuntu  7.10 and the static in the sound is terrible
[00:31] <michael> is there a fix?
[00:31] <needles> ardchoille: does devede just make an iso image?
[00:31] <darkness_s> needles: you can use dvdauthor, it is command line only though.
[00:31] <ardchoille> needles: yes
[00:31] <excitatory> joseph: the website has instructions, but generally you make it executable (chmod +x nameofbinfile.bin) then run it: sudo ./nameofbinfile.bin
[00:31] <ardchoille> tazz: apt-cache policy dbus
[00:32] <needles> ardchoille: ah, i see
[00:32] <michael> just installed kubuntu  7.10 and the static in the sound is terrible
[00:32] <michael> is there a fix?
[00:32] <needles> what about a nero-esque program that just transcodes and burns to dvd as it goes along?
[00:32] <excitatory> joseph: getdeb.net might have a deb as well..
[00:33] <excitatory> michael: open up kmix (click the speaker in system tray), then play with the switches tab.. some chipsets act funny with certain swtiches on, especially nforce 5.1 chipsets..
[00:33] <tazz> ardchoille: thanks
[00:34] <michael> cool ok
[00:34] <ardchoille> tazz: yw
[00:34] <darkness_s> needles: you can try this guide:
[00:34] <darkness_s> http://www.greenfly.org/talks/multimedia/dvd.html
[00:35] <needles> !videotrans
[00:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about videotrans - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:35] <needles> !info videotrans
[00:35] <ubotu> videotrans: DVD authoring utilities. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.6.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 69 kB, installed size 324 kB
[00:39] <needles> for any programmers who might be on
[00:39] <needles> a new goal: a linux nero copy
[00:39] <needles> so that burning mpegs to dvd movies is easier
[00:39] <needles> there isn't one that i can find that makes it easy
[00:39] <needles> devede makes an iso, but i dont have the hd space to spare
[01:04] <michael> needles: I can get you a hard drive if you need one
[01:05]  * Tm_T dances
[01:07] <Exilant> couldn't k3b do it?
[01:08] <Exilant> dunno, always used the command line, maybe it's just vcd
[01:16] <jhutchins> NO! Nero is one of the reasons I don't use Windows.
[01:16] <biovore> lol..
[01:17] <jhutchins> needles: I don't believe that nero or roxio can create a CD or DVD without creating the iso first, though they may not call it an iso.
[01:18] <jhutchins> What are you trying to do?  Transcode video to a DVD?
[01:19] <biovore> dvd is mpeg2
[01:19] <michael> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[01:19] <michael> I get this error every time I use adept
[01:20] <michael> whats up?
[01:20] <Exilant> you can actually burn a dvd without creating an iso first, growisofs will take a directory as input and an device as output
[01:21] <michael> restarting
[01:28] <michael> I just installed gutsy
[01:29] <michael> I noticed a chip (guess its for the video card), but I was playing with it and it disappeared
[01:30] <michael> in the system tray
[01:30] <michael> bottom right of the screen
[01:31] <michael> how do I get it back and enable my nvidia card?
[01:31] <michael> for 3d support
[01:31] <michael> I just switched from Suse 10.3 cause they cant get my card working
[01:32] <michael> anyone awake in here?
[01:32] <nsh> how do i tell locate(1) that i want it to search for ALL the terms not ANY of them?
[01:32] <nsh> you're awake in here
[01:32] <michael> lol yeah, ONLY one
[01:33] <michael> I wish I could help you man, but i'm somewhat of a newbie
[01:35] <michael> where does one get help for kubuntu?
[01:36] <Tm_T> here and forums and #ubuntu
[01:36] <Tm_T> !patience | michael
[01:36] <ubotu> michael: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:36] <Creationist> michael: I just arrived.  What is your problem?
[01:37] <michael> wow, I didnt mean to sound like I had a bad additude
[01:37] <michael> just asking a  question....honestly
[01:37] <Tm_T> michael: I know, it was just reminder :)
[01:38] <michael> ok  :)  got ya
[01:38] <darkness_s> michael: go to KMenu--System Preferences
[01:38] <darkness_s> then click the advanced tab
[01:38] <|Jason8|MK|> Hello everyone.  I have access to highspeed internet tonight, so I want to download the newest version of Kubuntu.  I saw that there's a DVD and a CD version to download.  Does the DVD version have more packages included?
[01:38] <michael> I just switched from Suse 10.3 cause they cant get my card working
[01:38] <michael> I noticed a chip (guess its for the video card), but I was playing with it and it disappeared
[01:38] <Tm_T> |Jason8|MK|: sorta yes
[01:38] <darkness_s> michael: go to KMenu--System Preferences
[01:38] <darkness_s> and advanced tab
[01:38] <michael> how do I get it back and enable my nvidia card?
[01:39] <michael> ok
[01:39] <michael> system settings maybe?
[01:39] <darkness_s> yep
[01:39] <michael> ok there
[01:40] <Creationist> michael: It's going to be "Restricted Driver Manager"
[01:40] <|Jason8|MK|> How far along has 64 bit support come along?
[01:40] <michael> ahh
[01:40] <michael> cool
[01:40] <Tm_T> |Jason8|MK|: all the way?
[01:41] <|Jason8|MK|> Are most of the programs ported to 64 bit nowadays?  I know about a year ago, there wasn't really anything "easy to use" in 64 bit
[01:41] <michael> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude)
[01:41] <michael> I get this error
[01:41] <Tm_T> |Jason8|MK|: thumb of rule: if you don't need 64bit, don't use it
[01:42] <|Jason8|MK|> Tm_T, okay, that's what I was asking.  Thanks.
[01:42] <darkness_s> michael: is adept open?
[01:42] <michael> hehe
[01:42] <Tm_T> |Jason8|MK|: shouldn't be much headache anymore but...
[01:42] <michael> umm,  no
[01:42] <michael> (not now)
[01:42] <michael> :o)
[01:43] <lvjiabin> Hi,anyone here
[01:43] <darkness_s> hi
[01:43] <Radi01> no
[01:44] <heinkel_111> Tm_T
[01:44] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: yes?
[01:44] <lvjiabin> Ah!so many
[01:44] <heinkel_111> FYI: I've just dropped the 32 bit partition
[01:44] <michael> hey actually I still get the error even if adept is closed
[01:44] <lvjiabin> can you help me about kde4rc
[01:44] <darkness_s> !adeptfix
[01:44] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: um?
[01:44] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[01:45] <heinkel_111> Tm_T: you asked about 64 bits?
[01:45] <michael> I have done that before and last time my pc refused to boot again
[01:45] <Nyle> is kde4 available in gutsy?
[01:45] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: no I didn't ask
[01:45] <michael> (after an update)
[01:45] <lvjiabin> Myle!Iwant to  say yes
[01:45] <darkness_s> michael: try doing that again
[01:45] <michael> ok
[01:45] <Nyle> !kde4
[01:45] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[01:45] <heinkel_111> Tm_T: oh bummer i misread then....checking... aha..you replied and i disagree
[01:46] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: feel free to disagree :)
[01:46] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: I wonder what part though?
[01:46] <heinkel_111> Tm_T and |Jason8|MK| : I recommend 64 bit for 64 bit machines
[01:46] <lvjiabin> ubotu : can  you  tell me howto
[01:46] <michael> "event not found"
[01:46] <heinkel_111> based on my experience, I am not missing any real useful software anymore
[01:47] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: ok, and gains?
[01:47] <darkness_s> nyle: check www.kubuntu.com
[01:47] <|Jason8|MK|> heinkel_111, I'm downloading the 64-bit version just because I felt like it.
[01:47] <heinkel_111> Tm_T: general performance is better
[01:47] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: any measures? :)
[01:48] <lvjiabin> Nyle:are you english_speak
[01:48] <heinkel_111> Tm_T probably lots but I have noticed procedures like ripping CDs are much faster on the 64 bit.
[01:48] <Dr_willis> Hmm. You mean the actual 'encoding' of wav to mp3/ogg
[01:48] <Nyle> lvjiabin: yes
[01:48] <michael> 32 bit version works a heck of alot better (as in setting up things to work)
[01:49] <heinkel_111> but gtg, cooking jambalaya on screen 3
[01:49] <michael> "event not found"
[01:49] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: I mean, without hard test numbers I can't sau a thing ;)
[01:49] <Radi01> I agree 32 bit is more stable.
[01:49] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: anyway, !worksforme ;)
[01:49] <lvjiabin> Nyle:aha ,can you help me
[01:49] <heinkel_111> true, Tm_T: how about 16-bit ?  ;-=
[01:49] <Tm_T> heinkel_111: I still use it
[01:49] <Radi01> win 95?
[01:49] <darkness_s> michael: can you use the restricted manager now?
[01:50] <michael> checking
[01:50] <Tm_T> Radi01: trying to insult?
[01:50] <Tm_T> Heinkel|afk: nooooooooo
[01:50] <Radi01> loo no
[01:50] <lvjiabin> En ,howto install kde4?
[01:50] <Radi01> Actually win95/c,is still the most stable win pgm.
[01:50] <Tm_T> lvjiabin: see topic
[01:51] <tricky> How come Xine conntrol my volume ??
[01:51] <Tm_T> tricky: because... it's configured so?
[01:51] <lvjiabin> Tm_T:my poor  English
[01:51] <Tm_T> lvjiabin: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[01:51] <michael> darkness_s: no
[01:52] <michael> should I restart?
[01:52] <tricky> Tm_T: I have to open xine to raise the volume of an other apps...ex. youtube video ...if i shut Xine , volume get back low
[01:52] <lvjiabin> Tm-T:I  cant  grap what is discribe below!
[01:52] <darkness_s> michael: easy way: rebbot, long way: try       ps -A |grep adept       on a terminal
[01:52] <SbCl3> I'm having a problem with ManDVD; when I load the binary, I get the message "error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open". Could this be because this is a 64bit machine?
[01:53] <lvjiabin> These KDE 4 packages install to /usr/lib/kde4 so run:
[01:53] <lvjiabin> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib
[01:53] <lvjiabin> export KDEDIRS=/usr/lib/kde4
[01:53] <lvjiabin> export PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:$PATH
[01:53] <lvjiabin> export KDEHOME=~/.kde4
[01:53] <michael> k
[01:53] <Tm_T> lvjiabin: don't flood
[01:53] <michael> trying long way first
[01:53] <lvjiabin> Yes,but what they mean？
[01:53] <michael> result:     00:00:10 adept_notifier
[01:54] <michael> that good?
[01:54] <michael> lol
[01:54] <Tm_T> lvjiabin: I recommend you not to try KDE4 yet if you don't know
[01:54] <darkness_s> michael: that shows that adept is not running
[01:54] <michael> ahh ok, guess I'll try again
[01:55] <darkness_s> michael: maybe apt-get is your problem
[01:55] <tricky> Tm_T: Thanks!!
[01:55] <michael> still no go
[01:56] <michael> maybe it is
[01:56] <michael> how do I kill it?
[01:56] <darkness_s> michael: try KSysGuard and search for apt-get or aptitude
[01:56] <lvjiabin> Tm_T:I konw!
[01:56] <lvjiabin> Thanks!
[01:57] <michael> sorry, but where is the ksysguard at?
[01:58] <Tm_T> michael: alt+F2 and write it and hit enter
[01:58] <darkness_s> michael: or try KMenu--System--KSysGuard
[01:59] <michael> alt f2 worked
[01:59] <Tm_T> usually quicker
[01:59] <michael> I get the same error, that its being used
[01:59] <Dr_willis> alt-space ksys ? :)
[02:00] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: hrrrr
[02:00] <darkness_s> Dr_willis: i didn't know about that one
[02:00] <Dr_willis> katapult - is handy
[02:01] <Tm_T> ...for some people yes :p
[02:01] <michael> wait maybe it was a previous error I failed to close out, cause I tried it again and I didnt get the same response
[02:01] <Dr_willis> Just use the windows answer! - REBOOT! :)
[02:02] <francesco> ho bisogno di aiuto
[02:02] <francesco> help for italian man
[02:02] <angel_> !it | francesco
[02:02] <ubotu> francesco: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:03] <michael> when I type in adept or aptitude in the command prompt (alt f2) nothing happens
[02:04] <michael> do I rebbot pc or restart x?
[02:04] <darkness_s> michael: try    ps -A | grep apt
[02:04] <michael> ok
[02:04] <michael> in alt f2?
[02:05] <michael> or konsole?
[02:05] <michael> man, I am so dumb at this
[02:05] <darkness_s> konsole
[02:05] <michael> feel like a retard
[02:05] <michael> lol
[02:06] <michael> didnt get a response out of either one (alt f2 or konsole)
[02:07] <michael> still didnt work
[02:07] <michael> wont let me enable driver
[02:07] <darkness_s> michael: then i guess you should just reboot
[02:07] <michael> ok
[02:09] <darkness_s> how can i clean up the disk cache?
[02:10] <Tm_T> disk cache in where?
[02:10] <darkness_s> in ram
[02:11] <Dr_willis> and why do you think its dirty? :)
[02:11] <vzduch> lol
[02:11] <darkness_s> Dr_willis: lol
[02:12] <darkness_s> Dr_willis: cause i opened MS paint
[02:12] <darkness_s> with wine
[02:12] <tricky> lol
[02:12] <Tm_T> why you need to clean it?
[02:12] <vzduch> why you opened M$ Paint in the 1st place?
[02:12] <darkness_s> i don't need to, i was just wondering
[02:12] <Tm_T> darkness_s: I'd say no
[02:13] <Tm_T> (yes but non-trivial)
[02:13] <ardchoille> darkness_s: Linux is quite better at managing memory than "that other OS"
[02:13] <Tm_T> ardchoille: what's wrong with BeOS ?
[02:13] <ardchoille> lol!
[02:13] <vzduch> *ouch*
[02:14] <darkness_s> ardchoille: i know, i just wanted to know how to do that
[02:14] <ardchoille> darkness_s: Not really necessary.. akin to disk defrag ;)
[02:14] <iMac> where can download dock for ubuntu ??
[02:15] <darkness_s> ardchoille: thank you
[02:15] <ardchoille> iMac: There's an app in the repos called kooldock
[02:17] <BanisterKelly> !vmware
[02:17] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:17] <BanisterKelly> Where do I get the multiverse repository?
[02:17] <vzduch> !multiverse
[02:17] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:18] <BanisterKelly> Thank you
[02:18] <michael> darkness_s: still get the error after reboot
[02:18] <ardchoille> iMac: What exactly do you need in a dock? Something like this? http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4ku6.jpg
[02:18] <BanisterKelly> I have a few iMac computers here.
[02:18] <darkness_s> michael: that is weird
[02:19] <michael> yeah
[02:19] <darkness_s> michael: try        ps -A    on konsole
[02:19] <michael> The title of the error is " Database Locked- Adept Batch"
[02:19] <Dr_willis> I got an imac.. it makes a good doorstop. :)
[02:20] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: erm?
[02:20] <ardchoille> lol
[02:20] <BanisterKelly> I am still confused.  How do I get vmware player?
[02:20] <michael> wow
[02:21] <michael> lots of stuff
[02:21] <darkness_s> michael: yes, look for anything that says adept or apt or aptitude
[02:21] <michael> darkness_s: ok
[02:22] <timbo_> how do i fix the adept manager
[02:22] <timbo_> it keeps crashing and i forgot the code
[02:22] <ardchoille> !fixadept
[02:22] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[02:22] <darkness_s> ardchoille: he said he tried that
[02:23] <michael> darkness_s:  5571 ?        00:00:04 adept_notifier
[02:23] <darkness_s> michael: is that the only one?
[02:23] <michael> yes
[02:24] <darkness_s> michael: did you really try the adept fix?
[02:24] <darkness_s> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:24] <darkness_s> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:25] <michael> yes, I can do it again
[02:25] <michael> !adeptfix   ?
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptfix   ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <michael> that right?
[02:26] <timbo_> E: Malformed line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) is what it is saying
[02:26] <ardchoille> timbo_: Can you pastebin your sources.list?
[02:26] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[02:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:26] <darkness_s> michael: yes,  type   sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock    on a konsole
[02:26] <darkness_s> michael: and then      sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:28] <michael> keep current version?
[02:28] <timbo_> how do i access it
[02:28] <timbo_> it wont let me in
[02:29] <darkness_s> michael: what?
[02:29] <ardchoille> timbo_: kate /etc/apt/sources.list  then copy and paste the contents to pastebin
[02:30] <michael> !pastebin
[02:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:31] <michael> darkness_s:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45746/
[02:31] <timbo_> ok i deleted line 56 and got back in
[02:32] <timbo_> i was trying to install kde4 and pasted what it told me and after that it crashed and wouldnt let me back in
[02:32] <ardchoille> timbo_: I was going to have a look and see if I could help repair without deleting anything
[02:33] <timbo_> it was the last source that i added
[02:33] <BanisterKelly> Is it possible to install via RPM in Kubuntu?
[02:33] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: No, please do not use rpm's, it's dangerous.
[02:33] <vzduch> BanisterKelly: w/ a bit of twisting, yes.. but don't do it unless there's no other option
[02:33] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: You need to look in the repos or find a .deb that was made for ubuntu. Which app are you trying to get?
[02:33] <darkness_s> michael: answer Y
[02:33] <timbo_> ardchoille thank you though
[02:34] <ardchoille> timbo_: yw
[02:34] <BanisterKelly> !vmware
[02:34] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[02:34] <BanisterKelly> That is what I am trying to get.
[02:35] <vzduch> which one?
[02:35] <BanisterKelly> vmware player
[02:35] <michael> ok done
[02:35] <darkness_s> michael: it worked?
[02:35] <vzduch> to my knowledge, it's in the partners repo (or what was its name?)
[02:36] <CPrgmSwR2> HOw do I run the restricted driver wizard
[02:36] <michael> oh, trying
[02:36] <CPrgmSwR2> because I am not getting the icon for it
[02:37] <darkness_s> CPrgmSwR2: KMenu--System Settings
[02:37] <michael> sweet, its never gone this far before
[02:37] <darkness_s> CPrgmSwR2: then go to the Advanced tab
[02:37] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: enable the partner repo and then do: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search vmware
[02:37] <CPrgmSwR2> got it thnx
[02:38] <CPrgmSwR2> already installing
[02:38] <michael> darkness_s:  got it
[02:38] <michael> restart x?   darkness_s
[02:38] <darkness_s> michael: did you install your card already?
[02:39] <darkness_s> michael: if so, yes but it may not work... it would be better to reboot
[02:39] <michael> oh ok
[02:40] <michael> darkness_s: the driver is installed if that is what you mean
[02:40] <darkness_s> michael: yes
[02:41] <michael> cool, brb fingers crossed
[02:42] <BanisterKelly> No vmware found that I can see.
[02:43] <ardchoille> !info vmware-server gutsy
[02:43] <ubotu> Package vmware-server does not exist in gutsy
[02:43] <ardchoille> !info vmware-server feisty
[02:43] <BanisterKelly> mdetect - mouse device autodetection tool
[02:43] <BanisterKelly> xserver-xorg-video-vmware - X.Org X server -- VMware display driver
[02:43] <BanisterKelly> libview-dev - VMware's Incredibly Exciting Widgets
[02:43] <BanisterKelly> libview2 - VMware's Incredibly Exciting Widgets
[02:43] <BanisterKelly> libview2-dbg - VMware's Incredibly Exciting Widget
[02:43] <ubotu> Package vmware-server does not exist in feisty
[02:44] <BanisterKelly> !info vmware player
[02:44] <ardchoille> Hmm.. that !vmware factoid must be old
[02:44] <ubotu> Package vmware does not exist in gutsy
[02:44] <Dr_willis> I alwyas install the vmware-server :)
[02:45] <Dr_willis> vmware used tobe in the repos for the last release.. not sure where its at now
[02:45] <Dr_willis> !find  vmware
[02:45] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xorg-video-vmware
[02:45] <BanisterKelly> I have the rpm for vmware player 2.02
[02:45] <Dr_willis> You can download vmware server for free. , never used vmware player. :)
[02:45] <Dr_willis> there sproberly some repo that has it.
[02:46] <michael> darkness_s:  sweet, tat did it
[02:46] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: Do yourself a favour and delete that rpm
[02:46] <michael> thank you
[02:46] <darkness_s> michael: great! you are welcome
[02:46] <BanisterKelly> Deleting then.
[02:47] <michael> I can offer you PC parts (new) for yard sale prices if you ever are in need
[02:47] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: With the popularity of Ubuntu, I'll bet there is a .deb package somewhere
[02:47] <BanisterKelly> Deleted.
[02:47] <michael> now to get my sound working
[02:47] <michael> lol
[02:47] <darkness_s> michael: where are you right now?
[02:47] <michael> usa
[02:48] <michael> VA
[02:48] <BanisterKelly> RI
[02:48] <darkness_s> michael: I'm in mexico (i'm not mexican though)
[02:48] <tricky>                                                                                             y
[02:49] <michael> are you there legally?
[02:49] <michael> lol
[02:49] <ardchoille> BanisterKelly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Player
[02:49] <tricky> yes you are mexican
[02:49] <michael> I hope not
[02:49] <michael> hehe
[02:49] <ardchoille> !ot
[02:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:49] <darkness_s> lol
[02:49] <darkness_s> sorry ubotu
[02:50] <michael> are pc parts cheap there ?
[02:50] <darkness_s> and ardchoille
[02:50] <keaton> What's the command to start the kde media manager (that thing that automounts cd's and such)
[02:51] <michael> oops, sorry, I'm a little slow, but Iget the point now
[02:51] <darkness_s> michael: no, but we are getting kicked if we don't stop the offtopic
[02:51] <michael> gotya darkness_s
[02:51] <baudthief> I'm trying to get multiple wallpapers going (one for each desktop) - but for some reason, even just trying to change my current wallpaper for a single desktop has no effect! Any ideas? Running Gutsy with compiz-fusion
[02:52] <ardchoille> heh
[02:53] <michael> how about this?  I need my sound working (need a hard drive?) I have an audigy and it detects it, but I get static or nothingg at all
[02:53] <ardchoille> michael: This isn't the place for psoting ads. Please stop it.
[02:53] <darkness_s> lol
[02:53] <michael> sorry
[02:53] <darkness_s> ardchoille: he was just kidding
[02:54] <michael> but the question was real
[02:54] <ardchoille> Even kidding can get him kicked
[02:54] <michael> my sound sux
[02:55] <michael> video is great now though
[02:55] <keaton> Anyone know the command to start the kde media manager (that thing that automounts cd's and such)
[02:55] <michael> I am dealing with a fresh install, so I need my dvd's, mp3's... yata yata yata working
[02:58] <scrubb2000> I have an M-Audio Revolution 7.1.  Every time I start linux, the sound only comes out of the right speaker.  If I open Kmix and move the balance slider, the left channel comes in and everything works fine from there.
[02:58] <scrubb2000> Can someone tell me how to make it "stick" so I don't have to do this every time I boot?
[02:59] <dsmith> shouldn't have to boot
[02:59] <dsmith> but once a month
[03:00] <biovore> you can use alsactl to save your mixer settings
[03:00] <scrubb2000> That's not answering my question though. ;)
[03:00] <Exilant> scrubb2000: well, the dirty way is to write a script that runs at bootup, using amixer or alsamixer (or dcop+kmix)
[03:00] <dsmith> heh
[03:00] <dsmith> I know...
[03:01] <biovore> technicaly if you restart alsa it should save the current mixer settings and then restore that saved settings
[03:01] <scrubb2000> I'm not sure it's running ALSA.  The hardware setting is "autodetect"
[03:01] <scrubb2000> Should I just force ALSA?
[03:01] <biovore> its linux.. your running alsa
[03:01] <baudthief> I have a similar problem with nvidia-settings. Gamma doesn't "stick", so I had to add 'nvidia-settings -l' to a startup script
[03:02] <biovore> !alsa
[03:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:02] <biovore> Advance Linux Sound Arch
[03:02] <biovore> replaces OSS
[03:02] <scrubb2000> What is enlightened sound daemon?
[03:03] <baudthief> haha, that sounds like a porno
[03:03] <biovore> some crap that runs to handle enlightened sounds sources..
[03:03] <biovore> just like artsd and esd
[03:03] <Tm_T> nownow
[03:03] <biovore> :-P
[03:03] <Tm_T> biovore: Enlightened Sound Daemon, ESD
[03:03] <Tm_T> !language
[03:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:04] <baudthief> rephrase: haha, that sounds like a special DVD
[03:06] <CPrgmSwR2> Tm_T: okay I got kdenetwork4 working in kubuntu
[03:06] <Tm_T> good
[03:06]  * CPrgmSwR2 is never going to touch gentoo again
[03:06] <Exilant> wise choice
[03:08] <CPrgmSwR2> Exilant:  my program is I just can't wait for kde4 to be released
[03:08] <darkness_s> your program?
[03:08] <Tm_T> some of us are developers I assume
[03:08] <CPrgmSwR2> i ment problem
[03:09] <CPrgmSwR2> my problem is that I am too impatient for kde4
[03:09] <Tm_T> I have no problems
[03:10] <CPrgmSwR2> Tm_T: huh?
[03:11] <CPrgmSwR2> bbl
[03:15] <n00b> need help getting my wireless back! I can no longer connect wirelessly, and can't get knetworkmanager to run!
[03:21] <n00b> can anyone help me connect to my wifi network?
[03:21] <darkness_s> n00b: try running knetworkmanager from a console an see what you ge
[03:22] <darkness_s> get
[03:22] <n00b> darkness_s: thats the weird part: when i try to run it, it says thats its not installed, and then when I try to install it, it says i already have the latest version
[03:23] <n00b> darkness_s: ive gone back and forth uninstalling and reinstalling.... no dice =/
[03:24] <n00b> are there any other commands i can run to connect, as knetwork manager is not working?
[03:25] <darkness_s> n00b: are you in gutsy?
[03:25] <n00b> yes
[03:26] <michael> gutsy sound sux
[03:26] <bryan> hi room
[03:26] <darkness_s> hi
[03:26] <n00b> michael: what's different than previous releases?
[03:26] <bryan> anyone know how to get that xorg automated configure thing?
[03:27] <darkness_s> n00b: maybe you could donwload gnome network manager
[03:27] <michael> I just switched from Suse, cause they dont support my video any more and now I cant get sound (without static)  lol
[03:27] <PaReNTaL_aDiViSo> I think it too michael
[03:27] <darkness_s> !xorg
[03:27] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:27] <n00b> bryan: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  but only if its borked
[03:28] <PaReNTaL_aDiViSo> but this is new... i've used the other kubuntu, the last one, and he sound was really good
[03:28] <PaReNTaL_aDiViSo> the sound
[03:28] <michael> n00b:  Sound in dapper and below worked flawlessly, but Edgy and newer... all I get is static
[03:28] <n00b> michael: i had a lot of static too- you have to make sure all other sound components are turned down or off.  Turns out, my mic was up all the way, making sound sh!tty
[03:29] <bryan> no, im talking about how do i reconfigure xorg all over w/out doing it by hand
[03:29] <n00b> darkness_s: what's the exact package name?
[03:30] <darkness_s> n00b: i don't remember exactly
[03:30] <n00b> bryan: that command essentially runs a "wizard" that will, for the most part, autodetect your settings.  You can change them though
[03:30] <michael> n00b: my mic is muted and I still get the static noise
[03:30] <n00b> michael: and you turned down all other sound in KMixer, except for the one you need?
[03:30] <darkness_s> help, anyone? gnome network manager's package name?
[03:31] <michael> n00b:   I'll try that now
[03:33] <michael> n00b: oh, hey would having a 5.1 system connected make a difference you think?
[03:33] <n00b> michael: i would think so... i've have two laptops with crappy speakers, nothing like that... =/
[03:34] <michael> not much $$ if you shop arround
[03:35] <michael> where would I go to switch from 2 speaker to 6?
[03:36] <michael> where would I go to switch from 2 speaker to 6?  n00b
[03:38] <n00b> michael: not too sure, but this *may* help you ---------> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3085273.0
[03:38] <michael> great thanks
[03:40] <michael> n00b: my prob is that I already have the audigy card
[03:41] <BanisterKelly> !compiz
[03:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:41] <michael> n00b:  thanks dude, you rock anyway!      :)
[03:43] <n00b> michael: thanks- sorry i couldnt help
[03:44] <michael> no prob bro
[03:46] <megatog615_> Why does Adept not respect my KDE theme?
[03:48] <ardchoille> megatog615_: Because adept is being run as root, not as user, you'll have to change root's theme
[03:48] <megatog615_> What? Then why does update-manager respect my GTK theme?
[03:49] <ardchoille> Is update-manager a GTK app?
[03:52] <n00b> ok, i got knetworkmanager up and running again, but now it just reads "manual network configuration", and doesn't show "wireless networks" like it used to.  what gives?
[03:53] <megatog615_> ardchoille: Yes. It's the update manager for GNOME, on Ubuntu
[03:54] <megatog615_> Adept is used as the updater for Kubuntu
[03:54] <ardchoille> megatog615_: No idea why GTK apps don't seperate root and user settings :)
[03:55] <megatog615_> Can a program run as root with sudo detect who's running it in sudo?
[03:55] <megatog615_> If so, just detect the user and use that user's kde theme
[03:56] <ardchoille> Well, IMHO, an app running as root should use root's settings and an app running as user should use user settings.
[03:56] <ardchoille> That's the proper way to sepperate the environment
[03:57] <ardchoille> To change root's settings: kdesudo kcontrol
[04:01] <BanisterKelly> !compiz
[04:01] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:05] <excitatory_> so does anyone know if taskbar-compiz will compile in gutsy? or better yet know of a repo or deb?
[04:06] <ardchoille> excitatory_: Might be better to ask in #compiz-fusion
[04:06] <excitatory_> it's really quite frustrating that the taskbar does not recognize compiz.. sort of defeats the point of the cube, or even the kubuntu default of two desktop planes
[04:07] <excitatory_> ardchoille: i can try, but it's really a kubuntu question.
[04:08] <ardchoille> excitatory_: Well all compiz questions are being referred to that channel
[04:09] <ardchoille> I was just trying to point you to the best possible way to get your answer
[04:13] <ryan-c> is there a package to automaticly apply hdparm settings to drives on boot?
[04:13] <NickPresta> excitatory_, I used a nice deb for Debian Etch. The ubuntu deb for the fusion-icon has QT4 support disabled, meaning it looks like crap on my transparent taskbar. I can link you to it if you like
[04:13] <ryan-c> I'd like to disable write caching on my drives.
[04:15] <excitatory_> NickPresta: please :D
[04:17] <enzo_> Nothing in my desktop will run. I keep getting this error message:  KLauncher could not be reached via DCOP
[04:17] <enzo_> What is that?
[04:17] <NickPresta> excitatory_, http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/umtaworld/pool/unstable/main/fusion-icon-qt4_0.1+git20071010~umtdebian_all.deb YMMV
[04:17] <BanisterKelly> Is there a way to have the Windows key activate the taskbar?
[04:17] <Silouck> can anyone tell me the url to see the kubuntu patches?
[04:17] <excitatory_> NickPresta: ah nice, thank you..
[04:17] <maduser> yeah
[04:18] <maduser> you got to fiest get the windows start icon
[04:18] <maduser> or make your own
[04:18] <NickPresta> maduser, sorry, what?
[04:19] <maduser> about the icon question
[04:19] <Silouck> can anyone tell me the url to see the kubuntu patches?
[04:20] <maduser> etc/opt/kde3/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/kmenu.png
[04:20] <maduser> location of the menu icon
[04:20] <Ariel> Hi Everyone.
[04:21] <enzo_> Hello Ariel
[04:21] <Ariel> BBL.
[04:22] <BanisterKelly> !compiz
[04:22] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:23] <i_want_kde4> hello i made a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it downloaded a lot but theres an error that says: Impossible to get http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-calc_2.3.0-1ubuntu5.1_i386.deb connection failed [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]maybe u should try apt-get update --fix-missing? sorry the translation i have it in spanish. im using kubuntu feisty with kde 3.5.7
[04:24] <Silouck> where can i see the kubuntu sources=?
[04:24] <ardchoille> Silouck: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:26] <leboff> i am having the same problem as this person here: http://pastebin.ca/796229 nearly word for word, does anyone know if this is a known problem or if there is a solution?
[04:27] <bazhang_> how to change nicks?
[04:27] <leboff> .   /nick newnick
[04:27] <ardchoille> bazhang_: Type: /newnickhere
[04:27] <ardchoille> bazhang_: Type: /nick newnickhere
[04:27] <Silouck> ardchoille: i would like to for example see the kdebase patches, where can i see it?
[04:27] <bazhang_> err remove the _ from after my name
[04:28] <CPrgmSwR2> lol
[04:28] <ardchoille> Silouck: I've no idea
[04:28] <bazhang_> ok thanks ardchoille :}
[04:28] <leboff> type: /nick bazhang
[04:28] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck you will need to download kdebase-src
[04:28] <CPrgmSwR2> or sudo apt-get install kdebase-src
[04:28] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: im not running kubuntu ATM
[04:29] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: download from wherE?
[04:29] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck: this is #kubuntu
[04:29] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: sp?
[04:29] <Silouck> so??
[04:29] <morphine> Hey, does anyone know how I can have all the mail in a certain folder marked as read automatically using kontact?
[04:29] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck: hold on
[04:30] <maduser> how do you get stegiri to search you entire computer?
[04:30] <CPrgmSwR2> http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/
[04:30] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/ there you go kde source
[04:30] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: thts kde man!!!
[04:30] <Silouck> im talking about the kubuntu kde patches!!!
[04:31] <draik> I just redid my HDD. I can only run apps as "kdesu <app>"
[04:31] <Silouck> kdevase specificallyu
[04:31] <Silouck> kdebase*
[04:31] <CPrgmSwR2> http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/
[04:31] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: appears you need glasses to read what others type
[04:32] <CPrgmSwR2> you asked for kdebase
[04:32] <i_want_kde4> noone knows what can i do?
[04:32] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2:  im talking about the kubuntu kdebase patches!!!  do you even know what a patch is?!
[04:32] <i_want_kde4> :(
[04:32] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: i asked for patches
[04:32] <draik> This is my error message for Thunderbird...   Service '/home/draik/.local/share/applications/thunderbird.desktop' is malformatted.
[04:32] <draik> Do I have to reinstall the OS?
[04:33] <ardchoille> draik: Did you use kmenuedit to make that menu entry?
[04:33] <ardchoille> draik: No, no need to reinstall, just fix the menu entry
[04:33] <draik> ardchoille: I don't believe I touched it.
[04:33] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck: yes I know what a patch is, the kdebase patches should be here http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/
[04:33] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: seams your blind
[04:34] <draik> ardchoille: Configuration file "/home/draik/.kde/share/config/kmenueditrc" not writable.
[04:34] <CPrgmSwR2> really?
[04:34] <ardchoille> draik: Open that file in kate and paste it to pastebin. I'll try and help you fix it
[04:34] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[04:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:34] <draik> ardchoille: Which file?
[04:34] <ardchoille> draik: /home/draik/.local/share/applications/thunderbird.desktop
[04:35] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck: There is an apt-src command
[04:35] <JimmyTheNose> hey, I'm having a possibly stupid question about the live cd/dvd...
[04:35] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: fuck, i said im not using kubuntu asshoe
[04:35] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: take a good look -> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:36] <ardchoille> Silouck: Watch your language in this channel please
[04:36] <JimmyTheNose> Is there any way to enable a restricted driver pre boot? because if i try to enable a restricted driver using the restricted driver manager it tells me a reboot is necessary, which kind of sucks with a live cd ;)
[04:36] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck: please use #ubuntu then
[04:36] <CPrgmSwR2> this chatroom is for #kubuntu
[04:37] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: seams you have a lot to learn, there you have it all baby, please go read docs and then you can start helping other
[04:37] <ardchoille> !coc | Silouck
[04:37] <ubotu> Silouck: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:38] <draik> ardchoille: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45750/
[04:38] <Silouck> ardchoille: give me a break
[04:38] <Pollywog> what happened to tzconfig in Gutsy?
[04:38] <Pollywog> I don't think tzselect is an improvement
[04:39] <i_want_kde4> what does "waiting for headers" men?
[04:39] <draik> ardchoille: The interesting thing is that I can see the icons with "root" privileges, but not with my username.
[04:39] <Pollywog> i_want_kde4: what are you trying to install?
[04:39] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: take a very good look, but now try using glasses -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/kde/kdebase
[04:40] <i_want_kde4> im trying to upgrate to gutsy form feisty Pollywog
[04:40] <i_want_kde4> from*
[04:40] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck sudo apt-get source kdebase
[04:40] <i_want_kde4> upgrade* its 01:40 here cant type well :)
[04:40] <ardchoille> draik: You may have some files in your $HOME owned by root. Open a terminal and do: find /home/draik -user root
[04:40] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck: sudo apt-get source kdebase
[04:40] <Cold_Inz> !evolution
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <ardchoille> draik: There shouldn't be any files in your $HOME owned by root.
[04:40] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: your really blind baby, i siad i wasnt in kubuntu ATM!!!
[04:40] <Pollywog> i_want_kde4: so apt is giving you the headers message?
[04:41] <CPrgmSwR2> Silouck: thats not my problem
[04:41] <draik> ardchoille: WHOA! I think it listed everything
[04:41] <ardchoille> !ops | Silouck needs to be reminded about the coc
[04:41] <ubotu> Silouck needs to be reminded about the coc: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[04:41] <i_want_kde4> nope it gives me an error:  Impossible to get http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-calc_2.3.0-1ubuntu5.1_i386.deb connection failed [IP: 91.189.88.45 80]maybe u should try apt-get update --fix-missing? Pollywog
[04:41] <ardchoille> draik: You need to change that
[04:41] <i_want_kde4> before that it says 0% [waiting for headers]
[04:41] <Silouck> CPrgmSwR2: the problem is that you need to go learn much more before coming here helping people that know much more than you, and stop being stupid and stubborn
[04:42] <Silouck> now good nite all
[04:42] <CPrgmSwR2> wow
[04:42] <draik> ardchoille: chmod -R 700 /home/draik/    ?
[04:42] <nalioth> let us be civil, please  :)
[04:42] <Pollywog> i_want_kde4: are you ircing from that same machine?
[04:42] <i_want_kde4> yes Pollywog
[04:42] <ardchoille> draik: Never use chmod recursively, you can lock yourself out of directories like that
[04:42] <lingch3n> sob sob
[04:42] <Pollywog> and you did 'apt-get update'?
[04:43] <draik> CPrgmSwR2: Wow... That was... interesting?
[04:43] <lingch3n> halo ever1
[04:43] <draik> ardchoille: chmod 700 /home/draik      ?
[04:43] <Cold_Inz> I've got a weird question going on. anyone here knows how to configure the SuSe menu style ? :P
[04:43] <i_want_kde4> Pollywog: firts apt-get dist-upgrade when the error happened i typed apt-get update --fix-missing
[04:43] <ardchoille> draik: sudo chown -R draik:draik /home/draik/.kde
[04:43] <CPrgmSwR2> draik: actually it was since I solved his problem
[04:43] <i_want_kde4> but nothing then i retyped dist-upgrade and it gives me the same error
[04:43] <lingch3n> @.@
[04:43] <ardchoille> draik: chmod is the wrong command for this
[04:44] <bazhang> Cold_Inz: probably an answer in #suse
[04:44] <Pollywog> i_want_kde4: I think you should get a valid sources.list from the generator
[04:44] <i_want_kde4> there it goes i typed dist-upgrade --fix-missing
[04:44] <i_want_kde4> xD
[04:44] <Pollywog> !sources.list
[04:44] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:44] <draik> ardchoille: Ah! Thanks for correcting my oversight.
[04:45] <Pollywog> I don't have the URL for the sources.list generator
[04:45] <i_want_kde4> brb
[04:45] <draik> CPrgmSwR2: I had the similar issue today. I do chat at work and I provide an answer and most of my replies compose of "scroll up".
[04:46] <ardchoille> draik: yw
[04:46] <draik> ardchoille: You..... Are..... GOD!
[04:46] <ardchoille> draik: hehe
[04:46] <raylu> there is only one god, and he is i :D
[04:47] <ardchoille> draik: Did that fix the kmenuedit problem too?
[04:47] <draik> ardchoille: Yes
[04:47] <Cold_Inz> bazhang: yeah, gonna try that instead, thanks
[04:48] <ardchoille> Awesome
[04:48] <draik> ardchoille: Yes you are!
[04:48] <bazhang> draik: scroll up haha
[04:48] <ardchoille> lol
[04:49] <bazhang> Cold_Inz: unless you are referring to kickoff (sp) on Kubuntu :}
[04:49] <ardchoille> draik: doing "chmod -R 700" would have removed the execute bit from all folders, and that would have caused you to be unable to enter into them
[04:50] <Cold_Inz> bazhang: uhm sorry, SP ?
[04:50] <ardchoille> he meant "spelling"
[04:50] <bazhang> Cold_Inz: not sure of my spelling (sp) sorry
[04:51] <bazhang> Cold_Inz: your kickoff menu giving you problems?
[04:51] <CPrgmSwR2> draik: as kubuntu becomes more mainstream... your going to get more and more of those people
[04:52] <ardchoille> Cold_Inz: afaik, there is no SuSe menu style until kde4
[04:52] <Cold_Inz> bazhang: yes sorry for the confusion, I mean KickOff menustyle for kubuntu. no it's working as it should, but I would like to know if it's possible to change the looks of it, and especially the kickoff button
[04:52]  * Dr_willis starts using 'obscourelinux-that-no-one-uses'
[04:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:52] <Cold_Inz> ardchoille: I'm using it this very moment
[04:53] <ardchoille> Cold_Inz: with kde 3.5.8?
[04:53] <ardchoille> Cold_Inz: I tried that, never could get it to look right.. deleted it
[04:53] <Cold_Inz> ardchoille: earlier version too, I just upgraded .. "aptitude search kickoff"
[04:53] <draik> ardchoille: Would you know why I can't hear the Konversation alerts
[04:54] <ardchoille> Cold_Inz: kickoff isn't in the repos
[04:55] <Cold_Inz> o,O
[04:55] <ardchoille> draik: Why?
[04:55] <bazhang> Cold_Inz: from the google it seems not to be very customizable--if at all--a nice alternative that provides tons of customization is kbfx
[04:55] <Cold_Inz> ardchoille: uh.
[04:55] <Cold_Inz> $ aptitude search kickoff
[04:55] <Cold_Inz> i   kicker-kickoff                                                  - Kickoff
[04:56] <ardchoille> Cold_Inz: Then you either installed it from a .deb or you're using unofficial repos
[04:56] <ardchoille> !info kickoff
[04:56] <Cold_Inz> bazhang: yeah I've tried kbfx earlier, wasn't quite satisfied with it, but changes has been made since then, so perhaps I should take a look at it again
[04:56] <ubotu> Package kickoff does not exist in gutsy
[04:56] <darkness_s> !info kicker-kickoff
[04:56] <ubotu> Package kicker-kickoff does not exist in gutsy
[04:56] <Cold_Inz> I just upgraded from feisty to gutsy
[04:56] <bazhang> Cold_Inz: kde-look has some very nice themes for it atm
[04:57] <Cold_Inz> bazhang: yeah I'll check that out, thanks =)
[04:57] <navetz> how do i resize my partition
[04:57] <ardchoille> !partition
[04:57] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:57] <draik> ardchoille: I have it to say "Yo" when my name is mentioned. It doesn't say a think even though I have it enabled and selected. I even tried to test it out by clicking on the play button and nothing.
[04:57] <bazhang> Cold_Inz: no worries :} sorry for the earlier confusion on my part
[04:57] <navetz> ardchoille: I downloaded gparted but it wont let me resize
[04:57] <ardchoille> draik: I don't know anything about sound, sorry. I don't even know if my sound works.
[04:58] <ardchoille> navetz: Did you run it as root?
[04:58] <draik> ardchoille: I can listen to music with Amarok, but not through Konversation.
[04:58] <draik> How strange
[04:58] <navetz> ardchoille: no, would it be sudo gparted & ?
[04:58] <CPrgmSwR2> wow I love kubuntu-gutsy
[04:58] <ardchoille> navetz: No, gui apps need kdesudo, so: kdesudo gparted
[04:58] <Dr_willis> it may be best to use gparted from a live cd also
[04:59] <navetz> thanks
[04:59] <ardchoille> navetz: Dr_willis has a good point
[04:59] <navetz> Dr_willis: i tried to use a live cd but I was unable to resize my partition
[05:00] <navetz> Dr_willis: i am trying to dual boot with fedora, and i tried to split my partition in half.
[05:00] <navetz> in fedora install you dont get the option to resize
[05:00] <ardchoille> Now that's my idea of a sensible dual-boot  Linux/Linux  :)
[05:01] <navetz> i like fedora better then kubuntu because it works better on my machine
[05:01] <navetz> the problem is that when i upgrade fedora, my wireless card stops working
[05:01] <Dr_willis> i laptop dual-boots.. GeeXbox (linux) and Ubuntu :)
[05:02] <navetz> i am getting this error opening gparted : Unable to open /dev/scd0 - unrecognised disk label.
[05:02] <draik> Is there a way for me to have my external 500GB HDD display on my desktop? Device Link won't work. (It's /dev/sdb1 and /media/disk)
[05:05] <Dr_willis> You can always make a link from /media/disk to the desktop
[05:06] <Dr_willis> I just add things like that to the konqueror bookmarks also. :)
[05:07] <draik> ardchoille: Any download attempt crashes Firefox. Any idea?
[05:08] <draik> Thank you Dr_willis
[05:09] <ardchoille> draik: Are there any files in ~/.mozilla owned by root?
[05:09] <ardchoille> draik: find .mozilla -user root
[05:11] <draik> ardchoille: Nope
[05:12] <navetz> how do I install a kde theme that I downloaded?
[05:12] <ardchoille> draik: Not sure, I don't use firefox
[05:12] <ardchoille> !theme
[05:12] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:12] <ardchoille> !changethemes | navetz
[05:12] <ubotu> navetz: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[05:12] <draik> ardchoille: Ok. Thanks for your help
[05:12] <Dr_willis> navetz,  themes under kde are a little bit more complex then  they first appear.
[05:13]  * _beata_ asks if anyone happens to know of/have an all-in-wonder working with feisty or gutsy. He's gotten it *partly* working, but hasn't yet found an  howto for gatos that's recent enough to actuall work.
[05:13] <navetz> Dr_willis: alright, well for now I just want to change the icons
[05:13] <Dr_willis> could load up the icon theme tool and drag the them to it.
[05:14] <draik> Dr_willis: The issue is that when I login (from hard or soft boot), the drive isn't there. I have to unplug it and plug it back in for it to be recognized.
[05:14] <_beata_> Heh. The thing I'd really like is to get gtk/gnome apps to correctly draw their menu bar.
[05:15] <navetz> Dr_willis: Where is the icon theme tool, I see install new theme in the icons section of apperance, but I dont know how to select the theme because there are just a bunch of icons the in folder of themes
[05:15] <Dr_willis> draik,  you could just make a fstab entry for it. so it dosent need to 'automount'
[05:15] <_beata_> draik: USB drive? It des that to me on occation, but fixes itself. :/
[05:16] <Dr_willis> navetz,  i think you can drag the whole icontheme.tgz or whatever over the icons theme controlpanel.
[05:16] <Dr_willis> I rarely mess with the theme stuff so i may be wrong, It does worj that way for some other themes
[05:16] <Dr_willis> other theme parts at least. :)
[05:16] <navetz> Dr_willis: k ill try it thanks
[05:16] <Dr_willis> not using kde at the moment so i cant test
[05:18] <navetz> Dr_willis: it worked, thank you
[05:19] <Dr_willis> so logical eh. :)
[05:20] <Dr_willis> that installs that icon themne for that user only.
[05:20] <UUflu> Does anybody know how to upgrade to kde4?
[05:21] <Selanit> Hiya.  I'd like to set up my "windows" key as a shortcut for accessing the K menu.  I found the "Popup Launch Menu" entry in the system settings, but it refuses to let me use JUST the windows key.  It wants me to use at least two keys, when I only want to use the one.  How do I fix this?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> Selanit,  im not sure thats doable
[05:25] <Dr_willis> the 'windows key' is a special meta-key.  called the 'super' key
[05:28] <Selanit> Dr_willis:  I've just been studying the "modifier keys" tab, and I see the win key listed there.  Perhaps I can edit some configuration file somewhere to get it treated as a regular key.  I'll keep looking.  I know that Gnome can do this, so it's not an inherent limitation.  It might well be a base assumption of KDE, though.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> gnome assumes the user cant handle 2 keys. at once
[05:29] <shaffy> does anyone know why my programs (autostart items) and just programs in general (e.g. firefox) will attempt to load and take a long time to load, or not load at all sometimes?
[05:29] <cryonv> Hey Guys...
[05:30] <Selanit> And KDE appears to assume that user will never want less than 2 keys.  I'd rather have a system where I can either have a single-key shortcut OR a multi-key shortcut.
[05:30] <Selanit> shaffy:  no doubt you committed some grave sin in a previous life, for which this is a just punishment. ^_^
[05:30] <shaffy> Selanit: too bad.. hehe
[05:31] <cryonv> I just went through and tried to get 7.10 loaded on an external USB drive... The loading went fine,but when it came to loading the boot loader it seemed to fail...
[05:31] <cryonv> Perhaps I should say installing the boot loader...
[05:31] <Dr_willis> I belive thers some manual tweaking ya have to do to get a ExternalUSb drive bootable.
[05:33] <cryonv> I'm installing Grub on the primary drive... so it shouldn't be too hard... but the grub installer on Kubuntu seems not to install on the correct partition...
[05:34] <shaffy> does anyone know why my programs (autostart items) and just programs in general (e.g. firefox) will attempt to load and take a long time to load, or not load at all sometimes?
[05:34] <cryonv> Or should I say the MBR...
[05:35] <Dr_willis> I recall under the older releases you had to  use the alternative install cd. and manually  run the update-grub thing from the console.
[05:36] <flash> anyone who can tell me how to compile linux kernel under ubuntu?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> !kernel
[05:36] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[05:38] <flash> but i'd like to design my own kernel that contains the drivers of my machine.
[05:38] <shift> Hello, new to the linux world so thought I would pop in here and say hi :D
[05:38] <GuHHH> is there any way i can use user's quota and group's quota if i just have one partition?
[05:57] <angel_> !module | me
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about module - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <darkness_s> !jdk
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <Dr_willis> !java
[06:00] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:01] <darkness_s> that is so outdated
[06:03] <Selanit> Dr_willis:  got it working.  I found an FAQ that answered my question.  Here: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2552777
[06:04] <Dr_willis> Selanit,  great!... err.. what was the question...
[06:04] <Dr_willis> :P
[06:05] <Selanit> Dr_willis:  I wanted my windows key to open the menu, all by itself, and was having problems because KDE assumes that the windows key is ALWAYS a modifier key, never a single key by itself.
[06:05] <Dr_willis> So now the official answer is read the kde faq! :)
[06:06] <Selanit> I was messing around with my xorg.conf before I got to the FAQ.  None of the google searches I tried actually brought up that FAQ until I started throwing in stuff from xorg.conf.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> my poor keyboard.. i got the tops wore off the A/S/D/W keys.. so now they show the blue lights underneeth and you cant tell what the letters are on them
[06:07] <Dr_willis> guess i go play some games and wear them down some more.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:08] <Selanit> It seems like a bad UI choice to force users to choose between win as a single key and win as a modifier key.  It should be capable of acting as both.
[06:08] <Selanit> Oh, well.
[06:08] <Selanit> cya, ppl
[06:11]  * lavacano201014 disconnects [/ame]
[06:24] <angel_> !ubuntu
[06:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[06:31] <draik> I am unable to edit anything in Firefox (Edit > Preferences)
[06:31] <draik> What am I doing wrong?
[06:37] <CPrgmSwR2> night
[06:44] <Link> @find wubi
[06:45] <Jucato> !wubi
[06:45] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[06:45] <Jucato> (the bot uses !, not @)
[06:45] <Link> yep
[06:45] <Link> thank
[06:45] <smax> hi
[06:45] <Link> I used wubi 7.10
[06:45] <smax> is there a firefox plugin to connect to the tor network ?
[06:45] <Link> but i don't know how to save data and desktop?
[06:45] <Link> anynone know how?
[06:46] <scrubb2000> Where's the KDE control center under gutsy?
[06:46] <Jucato> scrubb2000: Kubuntu uses System Settings instead of KControl
[06:46] <Jucato> K Menu -> System Settings
[06:47] <scrubb2000> Hmm...
[06:47] <Jucato> you can still run kcontrol in Alt+F2
[06:47] <ryan-c> is there a way to mount cds case insensitive?
[06:47] <Jucato> smax: you can search in https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox or try asking in #firefox (if there's a channel) or #ubuntu
[06:48] <Link> and about Wubi?
[06:48] <scrubb2000> jucato, I found the option in system settings.  Thanks.
[06:49] <scrubb2000> the one I was looking for, that is.
[06:50] <smax> thx Jucato
[06:50] <angel_> bye
[06:54] <Grav3Mind> hey everyon e hows it goin
[06:54] <Grav3Mind> is there anyone around?
[06:55] <Azzco> Sure
[06:55] <Grav3Mind> ive got a BIG problem with kubuntu
[06:55] <Azzco> !ask
[06:55] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:55] <Grav3Mind> heh ok ^_^
[06:55] <Grav3Mind> well i installed
[06:55] <edi> hi, im recording 2 streams with streamtuner, and now i have 2 konsole windows. is it possible to have just 1 window with tabs?
[06:56] <biovore> yes
[06:56] <Grav3Mind> and when it rebooted
[06:56] <Grav3Mind> i cant get to the gui
[06:56] <Grav3Mind> someone told me to try "startx"
[06:56] <[ifr0g]> edi, ctrl + n
[06:56] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: Does it just stop at the splashscreen?
[06:56] <[ifr0g]> edi, ctrl +shift + n
[06:56] <Jucato> edi, [ifr0g]: Ctrl+Shift+N
[06:56] <Grav3Mind> well it loads the blue bar all the way across
[06:57] <[ifr0g]> ha,:))
[06:57] <Grav3Mind> then it gives a few errors about resolution
[06:57] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: You can press Ctrl+Alt+F[any key 1-6]
[06:57] <biovore> for text consoles
[06:57] <Grav3Mind> it loads to the text console
[06:57] <Azzco> While in a text console you can indeed try startx and look at the output
[06:57] <Grav3Mind> and someone told me to try startx
[06:57] <biovore> then F7 is the first graphical console if X is running..
[06:58] <biovore> (ctrl-alt-f7)
[06:58] <Grav3Mind> well when i typed startx
[06:58] <Grav3Mind> the screen went blck and a CRAPLOAD of text scrolls and then i get to see that last part of it
[06:58] <Grav3Mind> i cant even see it all
[06:58] <Grav3Mind> i think its my graphics card
[06:58] <Azzco> You can scroll up with Shift+PgU
[06:58] <biovore> shift + page-up and shift + page-down
[06:59] <biovore> Grav3Mind: what graphics card you have?
[06:59] <edi> hmm.. streamtuner starts streamripper with: x-terminal-emulator -e streamripper %q  ,but how tell him to use a tab of the allready opened window?
[06:59] <Grav3Mind> opensuse,ubuntu,xubuntu,kubuntu and fedora wont work. Geofrce fx 5500 pci with 256 megs of  ram
[06:59] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: In either case you can "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh"
[07:00] <Grav3Mind> and what will that do
[07:00] <Grav3Mind> <--- is a totaly linux newbie trying to learn
[07:00] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: that command will let you reconfigure the graphics part of xorg with a few menus
[07:00] <Grav3Mind> will i know what to do? or will i need to know commands?
[07:01] <Azzco> You can choose what drivers, resulotion and that sort
[07:01] <Azzco> It's just arrows and enter basicly ;)
[07:01] <Grav3Mind> well ill try that and then ill come back here if it doesnt work ^_^
[07:01] <Azzco> Try the "nv" driver
[07:01] <Grav3Mind> thanks guys
[07:01] <Azzco> NP ;)
[07:01] <Grav3Mind> i really appreciate it....ive been at this for a week or two
[07:02] <Grav3Mind> bye for now guys ^_^
[07:02] <edi> any suggestions to start "x-terminal-emulator -e streamripper %q"  in a konsole tab?
[07:03] <Radi01> anyone there.
[07:03] <edi> instead than opening in a new window
[07:03] <crazy6> wah wah my sound doesn't work
[07:03] <edi> mine does ;p
[07:04] <crazy6> give me your sound
[07:04] <edi> here, take it <sound>
[07:05] <crazy6> no but serious what is up
[07:05] <edi> i dont know
[07:06] <Azzco> crazy6: have you tried running alsamixer from a console and check that nothing is muted and that the sound levels aren't extremly low?
[07:06] <Sajes> Anyone having trouble connecting to MSN using Kopete? I try to connect, then with no error, the butterfly icon goes grey and stops trying to connect. (But Kopete can connect to AIM.)
[07:06] <Radi01> How do I get root privileges for firestarter
[07:06] <Azzco> Sajes: I can't log in on MSN with kopete it just crashes for me.. I'm using Pidgin ATM
[07:07] <Sajes> Azzco: I see. Must be a bug with kopete. Wonder if there's a fix; I'll let you know if I find it.
[07:09] <Azzco> Sajes: my whole kopete crashes, not the same as you
[07:10] <Azzco> Sajes: if you run kopete from a terminal do you get any weird output trying to connect to MSN?
[07:12] <Sajes> Azzco: I'm not sure. Let me try.
[07:12] <f00f> anyone here familliar with ctags?
[07:13] <crazy6> Azzco: turned everything up, unmuted em all
[07:13] <Sajes> Azzco: Yes, I get two lines. one is "kopete: ERROR: Communication problem with kopete, it probably crashed." , and the other is "Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-dakota" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0"
[07:14] <Azzco> Sajes: I get this...http://pastebin.com/d47920713
[07:14] <Azzco> crazy6: and sound still doesn't work?
[07:15] <jmichaelx> i am trying to install on a computer that had onboard graphics, but i am using a PCI nvidia card.... however, upon running the install CD, it detects the onboard graphics and not the PCI card, and then X will not start. will i have to remove the PCI card and install using the onboard, then install the PCI card or is there some kind ofcheatcode i can use to accomplish this at boot?
[07:15] <crazy6> Azzco: yeah, not working still... arts is running though
[07:15] <Sajes> jmichaelx: disable onboard video through BIOS.
[07:16] <Sajes> Azzco: Loading. I'm on dial up.. so.. well.. You get the idea. :\
[07:16] <Azzco> crazy6: sorry I'm not really a pro at sound =/
[07:16] <jmichaelx> Sajes: i have looked through my bios and see no way of doing that
[07:16] <Grav3Mind> hey guys im bacjk
[07:16] <Grav3Mind> *back
[07:16] <f00f> n/m lol I was being stupid
[07:16] <Azzco> How did it go Grav3Mind?
[07:16] <Crell> jmichaelx: Disable the onboard video in the BIOS.
[07:16] <Grav3Mind> well it didnt bring up any choices
[07:17] <Sajes> jmichaelx: Oh. I don't know what to tell you then. sorry :s
[07:17] <Azzco> jmichaelx: my onboard video settings was hidden deep inside a menu I can't remember
[07:17] <Grav3Mind> it just says "warning overwriting setting" or soemthing like that
[07:17]  * Crell reads up and sees someone just said that...
[07:17] <jmichaelx> Sajes: no problem...i appreciate the suggestion
[07:17] <Crell> Ignore me!
[07:17] <Sajes> Azzco: That's a mean error :(
[07:17] <jmichaelx> lol @ Crell
[07:17] <Grav3Mind> i can go look like the screen and type it exactly if you want
[07:18] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: What was the command you wrote?
[07:18] <jmichaelx> hmm.... i looked all through my BIOS, but i guess I can look again
[07:18] <Azzco> Sure Grav3Mind
[07:18] <Crell> It may be under "advanced features" or something, or "integrated peripherals."
[07:18] <vbgunz> is it possible to run a single command line as root on startup *without* having to enter a password?
[07:18] <jmichaelx> it's an old P3, seems like it has fewer options than it should have
[07:18] <Crell> vbgunz: An init script, perhaps?
[07:19] <Grav3Mind> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[07:19] <Grav3Mind> thats what i typed
[07:19] <vbgunz> Crell: not sure where to start
[07:19] <Sajes> vbgunz: Iunno, but that'd potentially be dangerous I'd think.
[07:19] <vbgunz> I just want to run umount -a
[07:19] <Crell> Why?? :-)
[07:19] <vbgunz> I cannot do it as a regular user... I need to be root
[07:19] <vbgunz> Crell: to try and workaround a bug
[07:19] <Crell> Odd...
[07:20] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: if you're unsure what you write but you know the command you hav tab auto-completition ;) But that looked right
[07:20] <Grav3Mind> ....umm what?
[07:20] <Grav3Mind> lol
[07:20] <Crell> Well, you'd want a script, or more likely a symlink to a script, named S99dostuff placed in your /etc/init.d/rcX.d/ directory where X is your runlevel.
[07:21] <Crell> Most of the files there are symlinks to something in /etc/init.d/
[07:21] <Crell> Er, /etc/rcX.d
[07:21] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: type sudo dpkg-re then tab and you'll see what I mean
[07:21]  * Grav3Mind runs to other computer
[07:21] <vbgunz> Crell: sounds great. found them. which runlevel is root :)
[07:22] <Crell> runlevel != user.
[07:22] <Grav3Mind> ......command not found?
[07:22] <Azzco> o.O
[07:22] <Grav3Mind> lol
[07:23] <Azzco> sudo apt-get install xorg? lol
[07:23] <Radi01> How do I get root privileges for firestarter.
[07:23] <vbgunz> Crell: I don't think I would want to put it in rcS.d .. the README states, mounting, etc takes place after that dir has been run
[07:24] <Crell> Hm.  Ok, scratch that.
[07:24] <vbgunz> as for runlevels, not sure what they are, I'll google for something
[07:24] <Grav3Mind> Azzco
[07:24] <Grav3Mind> im a moron
[07:24] <Grav3Mind> lol
[07:24] <Grav3Mind> i forgot the tab part
[07:24] <Grav3Mind> it said choose package to configure
[07:25] <vbgunz> Crell: probably and most likely runlevel 5
[07:25] <Grav3Mind> and when i did sudo apt-get install xorg
[07:25] <Grav3Mind> it said newest version install
[07:25] <Grav3Mind> *installed
[07:25] <Grav3Mind> it didnt really do anything
[07:25] <Grav3Mind> lol
[07:25] <Grav3Mind> SOOO whats next?
[07:25] <Grav3Mind> ^__^
[07:25] <vbgunz> Crell: the bug has to do with mounts not showing up on the desktop mounted or not...
[07:25] <se7en_> !runlevel
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <crazy6> Azzco: hrm ok, well, it wants to output over a different port in linux... I home it is compat. with whatever windows wants to do!
[07:26] <impresive> õåëëëîîóóó
[07:26] <vbgunz> se7en_: I think I have a good resource on runlevels... am still reading it though
[07:26] <vbgunz> brb
[07:26] <Azzco> lol Grav3Mind... ... it doesn't work as it used to before for me :S
[07:27] <Grav3Mind> so what does that mean for me?
[07:27] <Grav3Mind> lol
[07:27] <crazy6> is there a control panel for drive mounting? I am seeming allowed to list but not read files on my ext3 data drive as user....
[07:27] <Azzco> I have no idea...
[07:27]  * Azzco scratches head
[07:27] <Grav3Mind> great -_-
[07:27] <Grav3Mind> i was all excited
[07:27] <Grav3Mind> lol
[07:28] <Azzco> Try without the -phigh at the end
[07:28] <Grav3Mind> k
[07:28]  * Grav3Mind runs back to computer again
[07:34] <Grav3Mind> Azzco
[07:35] <Grav3Mind> brought up the menu
[07:35] <Grav3Mind> BUT
[07:35] <Grav3Mind> its bringing it up for my onboard
[07:35] <Grav3Mind> when it auto detects it
[07:35] <Grav3Mind> even when i choose nv
[07:35] <Grav3Mind> the next screen says intel onborad blah blah
[07:36] <Azzco> Well you can manually edit the configuration file with a text editor ;)
[07:36] <vbgunz> crazy6: yeah, kcontrol > system administration > disk and filesystems
[07:36] <Azzco> Are you really sure that your nVidia card is properly plugged in?
[07:36] <Grav3Mind> indeed
[07:36] <Grav3Mind> as i can run windows if i boot to it
[07:37] <Grav3Mind> question
[07:37] <Azzco> "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" will open the config file
[07:37] <Grav3Mind> it asks me resolution
[07:37] <QMario> Has anyone been able to login to GMail with Konqueror successfully?
[07:37] <Grav3Mind> and has 3 shosen
[07:37] <Azzco> google up xorg.conf and check it out
[07:37] <Grav3Mind> *chosen
[07:37] <Azzco> QMario: yes!
[07:37] <Grav3Mind> how can i choose different
[07:37] <Grav3Mind> if i hit enter it just goes to the next screen
[07:37] <vbgunz> QMario: most of googles apps act funny in konqueror
[07:37] <Grav3Mind> is it tab?
[07:38] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: IT should be arrows and eneter unless you are to specify a value or name
[07:38] <blackout> heya
[07:38] <blackout> need some help
[07:38] <Azzco> !ask
[07:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:38] <blackout> :)))
[07:38] <Grav3Mind> well the highest resolution is like 19 something
[07:38] <Grav3Mind> and i cant support that
[07:39] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: 19!? o.O
[07:39] <Grav3Mind> it needs to be changed
[07:39] <Azzco> 19 pixels?
[07:39] <blackout> if i try t opoen my shell it opens 2 windows
[07:39] <blackout> 1 with my shell
[07:39] <Grav3Mind> like 1920x####
[07:39] <blackout> and 1 shell /bin/sh
[07:39] <Grav3Mind> or something like that
[07:39] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf look it through carefully
[07:39] <Grav3Mind> its got a star next to it
[07:39] <Grav3Mind> k
[07:39] <Grav3Mind> i will
[07:40]  * Grav3Mind again will be back
[07:41] <blackout> and i get
[07:41] <blackout> kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 11
[07:41] <blackout> konsole: WARNING: Unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/mc.desktop
[07:41] <blackout> konsole: WARNING: Unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/sumc.desktop
[07:41] <blackout> in the /bin/sh shell
[07:41] <blackout> if i close the right shell is closes normally
[07:42] <blackout> if i close the /bin/sh shell it closes both shells
[07:46]  * Azzco is growing tired and can't keep eyes open
[07:47] <Azzco> I'm going to take a quick power nap..
[07:47]  * Grav3Mind hopes you come back
[07:47] <Grav3Mind> lol
[07:47] <Grav3Mind> still looking around
[07:48] <Azzco> Does it make you any wiser looking in that file?
[07:48] <Grav3Mind> well im thinking theres a few things that need to be changed
[07:48] <mzanfardino> question: I have an intel PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter in my lenovo lappy.  I've installed kubuntu gutsy and am using the default driver which shows up as iwp2100.  I have sporatic connectivity.  I can connect to my wireless network, but I can watch it drop every few seconds, then restore with wavmon.  Any idea what the cause might be?
[07:49] <Azzco> Grav3Mind: Google up xorg I bet that there's a ton that you can change but I think that you should first backup the exisiting one and just change the driver and resolution if you find out how
[07:50] <Grav3Mind> ok thanks
[07:50] <Azzco> I'll be back in a few minutes ;)
[07:50] <Grav3Mind> k ^_^
[07:50] <Grav3Mind> and thanks for your help ^_^
[08:01] <Arelis> When i try to add a printer in the printers dialog of KDE, the add printer option is grayed out. Why is it grayed out, and what do i need to install? (I didn't install kubuntu-desktop, but kde-core)
[08:05] <Linux_Galore> Arelis: either you rot admin or cups is not installed or started, go into the services section and start cups
[08:05] <Linux_Galore> not*
[08:06] <Linux_Galore> Arelis: also mark cups to automatically start on boot
[08:06] <ubunturos>  I'm using Kubuntu 6.06, and installed the gnome-desktop on it. However, even after assigning the ALT+F1 shortcut to the menu, it doesn't seem to pop up, what could be the reason?
[08:07] <Linux_Galore> ubunturos: doesnt who up whre ?
[08:08] <ubunturos> Linux_Galore: eh?
[08:08] <Arelis> Linux_Galore: i did all those things, still not working.
[08:08] <Grav3Mind> is azzco back?
[08:08] <Linux_Galore> Arelis: so the services manager shows cups is running ?
[08:09] <Arelis> Linux_Galore: okay, i got to the printer adding part - but when adding it, it shows no vendors and models. So no drivers
[08:09] <Linux_Galore> Arelis: thats usually a sign cups it not running, cant edit what isnt running
[08:09] <Arelis> Linux_Galore: how do i enable it?
[08:10] <Linux_Galore> Arelis: in the services section in k-> system settings
[08:10] <Grav3Mind> i guess not
[08:11] <Linux_Galore> ubunturos: when you install the gnome desktop if you reboot it should show the option in the login screen to select gnome as the desktop
[08:12] <ubunturos> Linux_Galore: you seem to have got the question wrong
[08:12] <Arelis> Linux_Galore: that section will not load
[08:13] <Linux_Galore> ubunturos do you want to run kde and gnome at the same time ?
[08:14] <ubunturos> Linux_Galore: no, I run them independently
[08:14] <Linux_Galore> ubunturos: well if you want to do that log out
[08:15] <Grav3Mind> hey guys i have a question
[08:15] <Grav3Mind> well i should just ask
[08:15] <Grav3Mind> lol
[08:16] <Grav3Mind> but anyway. if i want to dump the pre included nvidia driver with ubuntu
[08:17] <Linux_Galore> Grav3Mind: the free FOSS one ?
[08:17] <Grav3Mind> i guess
[08:17] <Linux_Galore> Grav3Mind: just install and run envy
[08:17] <Grav3Mind> the one that comes when you download kubuntu dvd
[08:17] <Grav3Mind> well theres a reason im asking this
[08:17] <Linux_Galore> envy will install the comercial driver for nvidia or ati
[08:18] <Grav3Mind> i cant get to it
[08:18] <Grav3Mind> because it wont load my gui
[08:18] <Grav3Mind> and even then, i wont be able to get online
[08:18] <Linux_Galore> Grav3Mind: aaah, have you run envy before ?
[08:19] <Grav3Mind> because im using a belkin usb wireless reciever
[08:19] <marcel> hi
[08:19] <Grav3Mind> so theres no way for me to access the internet even if i did manager to get to the desktop
[08:20] <Linux_Galore> Grav3Mind: so your running and rig that isnt exactly Linux friendly and you having issues
[08:20] <Grav3Mind> very much
[08:20] <Grav3Mind> i cant even get the GUI to load with the default nv drivers
[08:20] <marcel> i tried to install kde 4rc1 using apt-get but the packages are not installable, anyone got this working?
[08:20] <Linux_Galore> Grav3Mind: did the dvd have a network connection
[08:20] <Grav3Mind> it never evn took me to that part
[08:20] <Grav3Mind> *even
[08:21] <Grav3Mind> im thinking of taking out my nvidia card
[08:21] <Linux_Galore> Grav3Mind: if you cant get the dvd to do a live boot then it usually means you have issues
[08:21] <Grav3Mind> yeah
[08:21] <Grav3Mind> it wont do a live boot
[08:21] <Grav3Mind> why is that?
[08:21] <Linux_Galore> Grav3Mind: Nvidia card should work all my machines have one
[08:22] <Grav3Mind> its a geforce fx 5500 pci with 256 mb of ram
[08:22] <Linux_Galore> Grav3Mind: turn all the power management of in the bios
[08:22] <Grav3Mind> hmm lemme go look
[08:23] <Grav3Mind> ill brb dont go anywhere lol
[08:23] <Linux_Galore> pretty much turn everything off in the bios windows xp or Linux doesnt need any of it
[08:23] <marcel> why would that help?
[08:23] <marcel> just use the nv driver
[08:24] <Linux_Galore> marcel: the dvd defaults to the nv driver, I think he has a bios conflict causing the machine to hang
[08:24] <marcel> its agp, so it cannot have these conflicts
[08:24] <Grav3Mind> whoa!!!!! i just went back in the room and its at the desktop!!!
[08:24] <Grav3Mind> i dont know how or why!
[08:25] <Grav3Mind> i was just playing with the xorg config file
[08:25] <Grav3Mind> i gues i did something right
[08:25] <Grav3Mind> ill brb
[08:25] <mot_> ...
[08:25] <Grav3Mind> OH I KNOW WHY!!! i told it to start in safe graphics mode
[08:25] <mot_> sudo cat /var/log/messages |grep EE
[08:25] <Grav3Mind> what does that mean?
[08:26] <mot_> it means it uses the safest working settings.
[08:26] <mot_> run the command i gave you
[08:26] <mot_> tell me if it yields anything interesting
[08:26] <marcel> i would do less or tail
[08:26] <Grav3Mind> in what
[08:26] <marcel> instead of cat
[08:26] <Grav3Mind> konsole?
[08:26] <mot_> sorry i lie
[08:27] <mot_> sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep EE
[08:27] <mot_> don't worry about less/tail, xorg.conf never yields that many errors anyways. a dozen lines at best.
[08:27] <Grav3Mind> in konsole?
[08:27] <mot_> yes.
[08:27] <Grav3Mind> k
[08:30] <dsmith> hi, kwin crashes when I am away from my machine
[08:31] <dsmith> I locked the screen and walked away
[08:31] <dsmith> logged back in and kwin seems to be not running
[08:31] <dsmith> I have to reboot
[08:32] <Grav3Mind> anyone ever get a usb wireless internet reciever to work with linux
[08:32] <marcel> anyone got kde 4 rc1 working?
[08:35] <Grav3Mind> anyone?
[08:36] <Grav3Mind> ive never really heard of it before but getting one to work should be possible somehow
[08:37] <_6502_> grav3 what are you talking about ?
[08:37] <Grav3Mind> usb wireless internet reciever
[08:37] <_6502_> ouch
[08:37] <Grav3Mind> thats not encouraging
[08:37] <Grav3Mind> lol
[08:38] <_6502_> grav3 i had a fight with wpa-psk for quite long
[08:38] <Grav3Mind> well its not protected
[08:38] <Grav3Mind> its open access
[08:39] <_6502_> grav3 if you go for simpler things (wep, open) should be easy...
[08:39] <Grav3Mind> you mean using a wireless usb reciever?
[08:39] <Grav3Mind> will work?
[08:40] <_6502_> grav3 i had mine working with wep when i was on debian...
[08:40] <Grav3Mind> wow how did you get it to work?
[08:40] <Grav3Mind> was it plug and play?
[08:41] <_6502_> grav3 i installed the ndis support (you know... that stuff that uses windows drivers) and just worked...
[08:41] <Grav3Mind> ndiswrapper?
[08:42] <_6502_> grav3 yes
[08:42] <Grav3Mind> was it hard to install?
[08:42] <Grav3Mind> cause ive only heard of it
[08:42] <Grav3Mind> never done it
[08:42] <_6502_> may be i was dead lucky... but everything just worked
[08:42] <Grav3Mind> lol
[08:42] <_6502_> it was a debian package
[08:43] <_6502_> for sure i got anyway the impression that wireless on linux is not ready for prime time
[08:44] <Grav3Mind> lol
[08:44] <_6502_> not a linux fault... it's because of all those closed-source drivers...
[08:44] <_6502_> still the problem remains
[08:44] <Grav3Mind> yeah
[08:45] <Grav3Mind> youd think that with wine you could install the driver
[08:45] <Grav3Mind> no?
[08:45] <_6502_> ouch
[08:45] <_6502_> i wouldn't even try that.... wine is not an emulator :-)
[08:45] <_6502_> may be vmware player could work, however
[08:46] <_6502_> then you could route trough the virtual machine.... hehehe jk
[08:47] <Grav3Mind> i know wines not an emulator
[08:47] <Grav3Mind> its a compatibility layer
[08:47] <_6502_> but kidding apart i'd give a shot to ndiswrapper... i suppose it's a package even on ubuntu; probably even newer than debian version
[08:48] <_6502_> yes... but it's a compatibility mostly at gui level, not lower levels
[08:48] <Grav3Mind> how hard is ndiswrapper to install?
[08:49] <_6502_> once installed there was just a command to load a windows driver, accepting the .sys file as parameter
[08:49] <_6502_> google for your usb dongle to see if anyone got it working before
[08:50] <_6502_> mine was a belkin and worked
[08:52] <_6502_> after the driver is loading there are special commands in linux for wireless support (configuration, probing etc.) and then you just see the network card in ifconfig
[08:52] <_Angelus_> is there something to make kde/kubuntu look like vista?
[08:53] <Grav3Mind> 6502 mine is a belkin as well
[08:57] <_6502_> googling for the model name and linux gives bad news or good news ?
[08:57] <Grav3Mind> nothing really lol
[08:57] <_6502_> nah... impossible
[08:58] <_6502_> with mainstream usb stuff you're never the first one to try
[08:58] <_6502_> what is the model name ?
[08:58] <semistud2354> i have a question...would anyone know how to fix my problem...when i click on hibernate....it just desplays verticle colors that blink on the screen....and when it click or pres exc or space....it doesnt do anything...and keeps on blinking colors
[08:59] <Hoondie> hey people, anyone know why skim isn't working since i have upgraded from Edgy to Gutsy? I have removed/reinstalled, no luck.. Basically when i press ctrl + space nothing happens
[08:59] <_6502_> one really silly thing is that often USB dongles are all marked with a certain model name but indeed they're different hardware, so you've to check serial numbers to know exactly what hardware you got
[09:01] <_6502_> i've been told that hybernate in linux is not at sood as linux sound card mess... i think this says it all
[09:01] <_6502_> s/sood/good/
[09:02] <semistud2354> huh
[09:03] <semistud2354> im more confused now
[09:03] <semistud2354> lol
[09:03] <joseph> how do i make a .zip of a file on my desktop?
[09:03] <semistud2354> right click compress
[09:03] <joseph> i dont see that option
[09:03] <semistud2354> then compress as
[09:03] <semistud2354> install arc
[09:04] <semistud2354> ark**
[09:04] <joseph> im on gnome
[09:04] <semistud2354> o...
[09:04] <semistud2354> im kubuntu
[09:04] <joseph> ok ill join ubuntu lol
[09:04] <semistud2354> ok...good
[09:05] <semistud2354> i have a question...would anyone know how to fix my problem...when i click on hibernate....it just desplays verticle colors that blink on the screen....and when it click or pres exc or space....it doesnt do anything...and keeps on blinking colors
[09:05] <onishidato> joseph: you can use 7zip
[09:05] <onishidato> !7zip
[09:05] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[09:06] <semistud2354> !hibernate
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <semistud2354> o damnit....
[09:07] <onishidato> semistud2354: i think your graphic card have some problem. check it
[09:07] <semistud2354> i have the default driver...
[09:07] <semistud2354> the one that gets installed when you go to restricted driver
[09:07] <semistud2354> its an ati 200m
[09:07] <semistud2354> integrated
[09:07] <semistud2354> 128
[09:07] <onishidato> i c
[09:08] <semistud2354> theres a driver...
[09:08] <onishidato> semistud2354: how long have you had this problem?
[09:08] <semistud2354> since i installed ubuntu
[09:09] <semistud2354> i installed the 200m drivers...but they would give me...bars on the bottom left of my screen
[09:09] <onishidato> semistud2354: and your ubuntu version?
[09:09] <semistud2354> gutsy
[09:09] <onishidato> semistud2354: can you reinstall the driver again?
[09:09] <semistud2354> just 3 multi colored bars....on the bottom right (correction from left)
[09:09] <semistud2354> the xserver one
[09:10] <onishidato> yep
[09:10] <semistud2354> from restricted whatever
[09:10] <semistud2354> i suppose...but i really dont think thats it
[09:10] <ubuntu_> Alright guys, after seeing how much trouble it usually costs, and the labyrinth of desktop environments/programs that are available, i decided to switch to Windows XP. Problem is, i've gotten accostumed to some of the feature Ubuntu gives me. Such as desktop search. How do i get this in windows XP?
[09:10] <semistud2354> i think its connected to something else ubuntu does
[09:10] <ubuntu_> (Been using ubuntu for 4 years or so)
[09:10] <ubuntu_> (But after i couldn't get my tablet to work, that was the final drop.)
[09:11] <semistud2354> um...when i boot my comp....i get a message that says...cannot allocate resource regian 7
[09:11] <onishidato> !regian
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regian - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <ubuntu> i used it but it do not save anything
[09:12] <onishidato> !regain
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regain - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <ubuntu> my desktop and document too
[09:12] <Tm_T> onishidato: don't go fishin'
[09:12] <onishidato> sorry
[09:12] <onishidato> just try to search
[09:13] <semistud2354> im srry i cant spell
[09:13] <semistud2354> region
[09:14] <ubuntu> can i config it?
[09:22] <riri> Hi
[09:23] <riri> kde4-dev and mostly dev are broken on hardy ... Do you know when it will be done again ?
[09:24] <riri> meanwhile can I compile qt4 and kde4 from svn ?
[09:24] <[ifr0g]> !find Kochizz
[09:25] <ubotu> Package/file kochizz does not exist in gutsy
[09:26] <travkin> riri: kde4 sucks, don't compile now
[09:26] <travkin> w8 for final release.
[09:27] <riri> i compile it on 32 bits and it works fine...
[09:27] <travkin> works fine?!
[09:27] <travkin> lol :))))
[09:27] <travkin> its looks crazy
[09:27] <riri> not at all
[09:27] <riri> i have nearly all what is in kde3
[09:28] <riri> but that's not the point
[09:28] <travkin> you also have SMALL panel?!
[09:28] <riri> no
[09:28] <travkin> you also have that stability?
[09:28] <riri> but i don't need it
[09:28] <travkin> how kde3
[09:28] <riri> at the moment
[09:28] <riri> 32 bits aren't broken
[09:29] <riri> i would like to have them on 64 bits
[09:31] <riri> i am working mostly on kde4 now
[09:31] <riri> with svn
[09:32] <travkin> how you change wallpaper on kde4?
[09:32] <travkin> and kde menu button position
[09:32] <riri> i told you
[09:32] <riri> svn has a right click mouse on screen
[09:32] <riri> change wallpaper
[09:32] <Jucato> travkin: right-click on the desktop. moving plasmoids on the plasma panel is still WIP
[09:33] <travkin> hmm, ok
[09:33] <Jucato> but only if you have the current (post rc1) version
[09:33] <travkin> yeap
[09:38] <travkin> How to change wallpaper in Kde4?
 travkin: right-click on the desktop. moving plasmoids on the plasma panel is still WIP
[09:40] <Jucato> travkin: what version of KDE4 do you have?
[09:40] <travkin> rc1
[09:40] <Jucato> [17:33] <Jucato> but only if you have the current (post rc1) version
[09:40] <Arelis> !windows
[09:40] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:40] <travkin> i have current evrsion
[09:41] <Jucato> post rc1 = after rc1
[09:41] <Jucato> travkin: please don't PM me
[09:41] <Jucato> ask in here
[09:41] <travkin> ok
[09:41] <travkin> how to check what version of kde4
[09:41] <travkin> i have?
[09:41] <travkin> i installed yesterday it, following instructions on kubuntu.org
[09:41] <travkin> from hardy-backports
[09:41] <Jucato> after rc1 = most current, daily versions. meaning it must be compiled from source
[09:41] <travkin> aah.
[09:43] <travkin> how to compile from source it?
[09:43] <travkin> any instructions?
[09:43] <Jucato> http://techabase.kde.org
[09:43] <travkin> ok, thank you
[09:43] <travkin> how to change GTK theme in kde4?
[09:44] <travkin> firefox not supporting gtk themes
[09:44] <travkin> in kde4
[09:44] <Jucato> there is no way yet in KDE4
[09:44] <travkin> ok
[09:44] <travkin> and how to remove clock
[09:44] <travkin> on panel
[09:44] <travkin> and add system tray
[09:45] <Jucato> right now you can't. it's still a work in progress
[09:45] <Jucato> the system tray is there, but it isn't showing any icons. again, work in progress
[10:01] <ward_> Morning guys
[10:01] <ward_> I have a question, where can I find a plugin (and how do I install it) for .WMV files ? or MPEG files?
[10:03] <darkness_s> !mpeg
[10:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:03] <darkness_s> !wmv
[10:04] <darkness_s> ward_ are you in gutsy?
[10:04] <darkness_s> you can install kubuntu-restricted-extras and vlc
[10:05] <ward_> uhm
[10:06] <ward_> gutsy.. :shy:
[10:06] <ward_> sorry just running 2 days with Kubuntu.
[10:06] <posingaspopular> ward_: install the vlc media player
[10:06] <ward_> ok
[10:06] <posingaspopular> it runs almost all the files you would need
[10:06] <posingaspopular> sudo apt-get install vlc should be the command
[10:07] <ward_> how you guys knows that commands?
[10:07] <ward_> sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:07] <posingaspopular> as for audio, follow the guides that the nice bot posted above
[10:07] <posingaspopular> ward_: ive been using kubuntu for about a year now, so i picked it up. also i ran that command yesterday.
[10:08] <posingaspopular> it can be intimidating to use at first, but no worries, that's what this chan is for
[10:08] <ward_> :p
[10:08] <ward_> Thanks.
[10:08] <darkness_s> sudo: run as superuser
[10:08] <ward_> :p
[10:08] <darkness_s> apt-get: program to manage packages
[10:08] <ward_> hehe
[10:08] <ward_> q: what should be the command to install Adobe  CS3 design premium then?
[10:09] <darkness_s> mmm
[10:09] <darkness_s> there is no CS3 for linux
[10:09] <ward_> oh
[10:09] <ward_> :(
[10:09] <ward_> Can I emulate it?
[10:09] <darkness_s> yep
[10:09] <darkness_s> :(
[10:09] <ward_> VMWare or something?
[10:09] <ward_> (I read about it)
[10:10] <pjeide> !alsa
[10:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:10] <darkness_s> you can run it in vmware, but it would be slower
[10:10] <darkness_s> cause of the graphics card
[10:11] <darkness_s> vmware doesn't support them fully
[10:11] <ward_> ok
[10:11] <ward_> I'm running atm kubuntu at a low end pc
[10:11] <ward_> also
[10:12] <ward_> AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 2.2Ghz - Ati radeon 9600 pro 256mb  - 20GB hdd 5200RPM
[10:12] <ward_> 2x 256mb ram(dual channel)
[10:12] <ward_> but it works :D
[10:13] <darkness_s> yeah, it should perform well on that machine
[10:14] <ward_> :)
[10:14] <ward_> but into this machine is an other hdd with windows on it... with 7200RPM
[10:14] <ward_> :p
[10:14] <travkin> i'm running AMD Athlon XP 2.8+ - nvidia geforce 2 mx - 80gb hdd
[10:14] <travkin> 512 ram
[10:14] <ward_> :p
[10:15] <ward_> nice
[10:15] <travkin> and it run OK.
[10:15] <pjeide> does running games (counter-strike source) in wine have the potential to cause malfunctions with the soundcard drivers?  alsamixer reports no such device, /proc/asound/cards doesn't exists, I have no sound in any application, yet lspci shows my integrated audio device @ 00:1b.0.. any suugestions?
[10:15] <llutz> ward_: "have fun" if you want to work with a vmware-windows with only 512MB on host-machine :)
[10:16] <pjeide> it seems that my issues with sound coincided with running wine, but I could be mistaken.. I wish I was more positive about the origin of my dilema..
[10:16] <darkness_s> and photoshop
[10:16] <ward_> You think it woudn't work?
[10:16] <llutz> ward_: define "work"
[10:16] <ward_> :p
[10:16] <darkness_s> pjeide: i run half-life 2 and it hasn't given me problems so far
[10:17] <llutz> ward_: the emulated Win needs more RAM you can offer, so it might start but isn't funny at all
[10:17] <pjeide> darkness_s: thanks
[10:17] <darkness_s> pjeide: you are welcome
[10:17] <ward_> so i need to buy a buy a neew pc
[10:17] <llutz> ward_: RAM at least
[10:18] <darkness_s> ward_: yes, you need more ram to run vmware nicely
[10:18] <ward_> ok
[10:22] <ward_> Question
[10:22] <ward_> http://i12.tinypic.com/8acp3c7.png
[10:22] <ward_> how can I make a thing like on the right?
[10:23] <llutz> ward_: use conky, a system monitoring software
[10:23] <pag> ward_, looks like conky...
[10:23] <darkness_s> i think that is conky
[10:23] <_DT> ward_ : install conky or a super karamba desktop widget
[10:24] <darkness_s> lol
[10:24] <darkness_s> everybody agrees
[10:24] <llutz> oh, i thought it's conky :)
[10:24] <_DT> :-)
[10:24] <_DT> K > Utilities > SuperKaramba > Get More Stuff
[10:24] <ward_> :D
[10:24] <ward_> htnaks
[10:24] <_DT> has some good widgets too ;-)
[10:25] <llutz> ward_: superkaramba on your pc might not be a good idea, it needs much more ressources than conky
[10:25] <darkness_s> ward_: bear in mind that SuperKaramba is preety resource heavy
[10:25] <llutz> ok it offers more eye-candy too
[10:25] <ward_> SO i thake Conky?
[10:26] <llutz> try it
[10:26] <ward_> sudo apt-get install conky
[10:27] <ward_> Works
[10:27] <llutz> ward_: to get some ideas how to customize it: http://conky.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
[10:27] <ward_> Thanks
[10:29] <ward_> hmm
[10:29] <ward_> ist's installed
[10:29] <ward_> how to open :/
[10:30] <pjeide> Why would I have no /proc/asound directory? Is that standard with ALSA?
[10:30] <ward_> ! open files
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about open files - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <ward_> !open
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about open - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <darkness_s> try typing conky on a console
[10:31] <ward_> pjot's works
[10:31] <ward_> oh it' works
[10:31] <ward_> nice
[10:31] <llutz> pjeide: that file only exists if alsa runs and sees a supported card in your system (iirc)
[10:32] <pjeide> ty
[10:33] <pjeide> how about /etc/asound.conf...?
[10:33] <conma> Hi
[10:33] <pjeide> is /etc/asound.conf a standard file with ALSA?
[10:33] <pjeide> (no activity over on the channel)
[10:35] <posingaspopular> hi conma, welcome to #kubuntu
[10:35] <conma> who can tell me why my Konq does not work like internet browser?
[10:36] <darkness_s> conma: what happens when you try to open a web page
[10:37] <jilux> 大家好
[10:37] <conma> Konq says "connection error", but links2 opens the same page
[10:37] <darkness_s> !cn
[10:37] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[10:37] <jilux> 这应该是个kubuntu
[10:38] <jilux> 的聊天室呀 我第一次来
[10:38] <posingaspopular> conma: do you get unknown host errors or just 'connection error'?
[10:40] <Lynoure> is the KDE4 rc1 in gutsy backports supposed to be in an installable (though not supported) shape? I keep on getting notes on broken packages
[10:40] <Tm_T> Lynoure: like?
[10:41] <conma> I think it's "error loading page" and "error connecting to host"
[10:41] <darkness_s> Lynoure: it should be installable
[10:41] <darkness_s> I installed it
[10:42] <jpatrick> Lynoure: you should be installing from the Launchpad PPA
[10:42] <Lynoure> Tm_T: they scrolled off already, I'll tell you if the rehappen (I'm trying again after yet another update and clean)
[10:42] <Tm_T> Lynoure: roger
[10:42] <conma> This host is "pingable" and I can open the page with links2
[10:42] <Lynoure> jpatrick: because the backparts is broken? or why?
[10:42] <korgano> hi everybody, can anyone tell where to put options for certain modules? I need to make sure my wifi/module (iwl4965) is always loaded with "hwencrypt=1"
[10:42] <Lynoure> s/parts/ports
[10:42] <jpatrick> Lynoure: because that's where the lastest are
[10:42] <llutz> conma: switch off "use-cache" in konquerors settings
[10:44] <Lynoure> jpatrick: I prefer ok backports to lastests 'someguy's own', that's why I asked about it.... but I did try ppa too, yesterday, it did not have kdm-kde4 and installing that from backports caused conflicts
[10:44] <darkness_s> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsimpson/ubuntu gutsy main
[10:44] <jpatrick> Lynoure: this 'someguy' rocks :D
[10:45] <posingaspopular> conma: ah i see. yea i get that in konqueror when I try to open links in IRC, and if I try to open it again it works. duno how to fix it, i just use firefox
[10:45] <conma> Amazing! It works! Thank you VERY MUCH :) Why it does not want to work with cache?
[10:45] <darkness_s> Lynoure: kubuntu.com recommends that repository
[10:45] <Lynoure> jpatrick: see what I said about kdm-kde4...?
[10:45] <Lynoure> darkness_s: ditto to you...
[10:45] <darkness_s> ditto?
[10:45] <Lynoure> darkness_s: see what I said about kdm-kde4
[10:46] <jpatrick> Lynoure: personally I wouldn't use the KDE4 KDM, you just need to add a new xsession in the right dir as the instructions say
[10:46] <Lynoure> darkness_s: What instructions? http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php tells to install that...
[10:47] <jpatrick> Lynoure: that says nothing about KDM
[10:47] <Lynoure> oops, nicks wrong way around, sorry about that.
[10:47] <jpatrick> oh, wait, it does, odd
[10:47] <Lynoure> jpatrick: yes, it does.
[10:48] <Lynoure> But ppa repo does not have kdm-kde4 and installing that from backports when the rest is from ppa breaks stuff.
[10:48] <jpatrick> Lynoure: ignore it and do what the rest says, it works fine here
[10:48] <conma> Who knows how to deal with Conexant modems? Is there an opensource driver?
[10:49] <darkness_s> Lynoure: i followed that guide and it all went good
[10:49] <Lynoure> jpatrick: Don't know enough on xephyr to be comfortable with it..  what exactly does it do?
[10:49] <erland> Hi all, have upgraded to Gutsy recently following official instructions but now have a couple of strange issues. Can someone help explain/fix? Let's start with - when I click Logout/Shutdown button I can't shutdown or restart, I only have the logout option...?
[10:49] <Lynoure> darkness_s: even the kdm part?
[10:49] <jpatrick> Lynoure: no idea.. (never used it)
[10:49] <darkness_s> Lynoure: yes
[10:50] <Lynoure> darkness_s: when? I wonder if something changed meanwhile?
[10:50] <darkness_s> Lynoure: two or three days ago
[10:50] <Lynoure> darkness_s: Did you get kdm-kde4 from backports? or from somewhere else?
[10:51] <bazhang> erland: where does log out take you to? can you shutdown from there?
[10:53] <erland> bazhang: yeah, it takes me back to the normal login screen and then I can logout by Ctrl+s and it gives me the shutdown & restart buttons - it's just frustrating to have to go through both steps.
[10:53] <bobiras> hi all, could someone tell me from where i change screen resolution on kubuntu plz?
[10:53] <darkness_s> Lynoure: yes, i guess... i didn't check i just installed it
[10:54] <darkness_s> it says provider: Ubuntu MOTU developers
[10:54] <jpatrick> that's right, it's in universe
[10:54] <Lynoure> darkness_s: If I try following the instructions with both ppa and backports enables, I get an ugly mess...
[10:55] <bazhang> erland: what about from the konsole? does that allow it?
[10:55] <bazhang> bobiras: under peripherals  monitor and display
[10:55] <jpatrick> bobiras: have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"? (back up your xorg.conf first)
[10:55] <FlyBye> Hi all...
[10:55] <bobiras> nope
[10:56] <FlyBye> need some help with grub problems...
[10:56] <darkness_s> Lynoure: that's weird
[10:56] <FlyBye> cannot boot to kubuntu...
[10:56] <FlyBye> tried to fix it with easy bcd .. didnt work..
[10:56] <bobiras> i'll try, i just restarted linux and doesn't fit the screen
[10:56] <bazhang> !grub | FlyBye
[10:56] <ubotu> FlyBye: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:56] <FlyBye> tried to use wingrub - it cant see any particions...?
[10:57] <darkness_s> Lynoure: maybe you should install them separately
[10:57] <darkness_s> Lynoure: first kdebase-dev-kde4 kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-runtime
[10:57] <darkness_s> Lynoure: and then kdm-kde4
[10:57] <erland> bazhang: I'm not sure, I haven't tried from the console but I think I did try by keyboard shortcut for "Halt without Confirmation" (Alt+Ctrl+Shift+PgDn) and it worked like that, but I'd like the GUI if possible - When I ran the Kubuntu Gutsy Live CD it gave me the shutdown/restart/suspend options.
[10:58] <bazhang> erland: that is very strange
[10:58] <FlyBye> The various docs on grub/windows problems assume that one has either only one versionof windows.. i have xp and vista or it assumes the problems came when windows was installed after kubuntu... I had xp and vista first and kubuntu came as the 3rd o-system...
[11:00] <erland> bazhang: I know, I don't get it. I used to have the normal dialogue under Feisty too...
[11:00] <bazhang> http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/hack-attack-how-to-tripleboot-windows-xp-vista-and-ubuntu-193474.php FlyBye
[11:00] <bazhang> erland: normal here on my gutsy kubuntu
[11:02] <Lynoure> darkness_s: that's what I did...
[11:02] <Lynoure> darkness_s: the last step ended in massive dependency hell.
[11:03] <erland> bazhang: OK, well next one is weird scrolling - after upgrading, the scrolling in programs like OOo and Firefox is jumpy regardless of the "smooth scrolling" setting. It's actually really frustrating even though it sounds like a small thing - makes stuff hard to read.
[11:03] <darkness_s> Lynoure: i have no idea what happened then
[11:03] <bazhang> erland: not small if its frustrating
[11:04] <bazhang> erland: I tend to turn off smooth scrolling as it's anything but smooth
[11:04] <Lynoure> darkness_s: do you have backports in your sources list?
[11:05] <Lynoure> darkness_s: if not, that could explain stuff :)
[11:06] <darkness_s> Lynoure: yes, i do have backports
[11:06] <Lynoure> darkness_s: hmm
[11:06] <erland> bazhang: yeah, it's probably a little better without smooth scrolling, but still jumpy. Again, smooth scrolling worked fine under Feisty.
[11:06] <Lynoure> darkness_s: and ppa, too?
[11:07] <darkness_s> Lynoure: yes
[11:07] <bazhang> erland: feisty and gutsy are very different experiences--I could get almost nothing to work under feisty, and gutsy is not that bad (for me)
[11:07] <piotr16> who is pl?
[11:07] <darkness_s> !pastebin
[11:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:08] <Aphelia> hi there, i installed kubuntu yesterday, using debian before. i figured out, there might be more "nescessary" repositories, than the free one?
[11:08] <bazhang> Aphelia: as in restricted (codecs etc)?
[11:08] <darkness_s> Lynoure: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45768/
[11:08] <Aphelia> i read something about "community repositories", can anyone help me with the deb url?
[11:08] <FlyBye> thanks folks - have had a look at the info in the page that the bot gave and it seems to be what I am looking for..
[11:08] <Aphelia> yes, like that
[11:09] <bazhang> Aphelia: via gui or cli--adept is the gui
[11:09] <Aphelia> there must be something as the "non-free" equivalent in debian, i think.. via adept
[11:10] <bazhang> Aphelia: yes, there is, and if that doesn't have what you want then there is medibuntu.org as well
[11:10] <erland> bazhang: Alright, moving on to strike 3, Amarok has become unusable. Not sure if this has to do with upgrading, as it slowed down after I upgraded to a newer less stable package (maybe 1.7 at the time) while still using Feisty. Anyway, I rolled back to the standard stable package, but it's been so slow that it now just crashes when I try to use it. I have a large collection, but it should be able to handle that right? Again, using
[11:10] <erland> the Gutsy Live CD,everything was dandy, even after hooking it up to my large collection on external HDD. Any suggestions?
[11:11] <Aphelia> is there any site, , where i can look up the urls easily?
[11:12] <Lynoure> darkness_s: one last question, did you install with aptitude (like I did), adept, apt or something else? (might make a difference when it comes to recommended stuff)
[11:12] <bazhang> Aphelia: just open up adept and enable the repositories there (including canonical partner repos), then follow instructions at medibuntu org for enabling those
[11:13] <darkness_s> Lynoure: i used apt-get
[11:13] <bazhang> erland: using the live gutsy cd with feisty installed was alright, then installing the gutsy over feisty (or apt dist upgrading via the net) things became broken?
[11:14] <bobiras> sorry i'm noob, i can not find peripherals monitor and display, can someone help me plz?
[11:14] <Aphelia> bazhang: thanks :) I'l try that
[11:15] <bazhang> Aphelia: no worries :}
[11:15] <Lynoure> darkness_s: I'll try that way then. Maybe it was some of the recommended stuff that caused the dependency mess. Thanks
[11:15] <bazhang> bobiras: do you see the kmenu?
[11:15] <bobiras> sure
[11:15] <bobiras> but i'm stuck
[11:15] <erland> bazhang: so it's using the live gutsy cd (with gutsy already installed) VS. using gutsy installed via apt dist upgrade via net
[11:16] <bart1105> hello.. i'm a noob and i have this problem with dialogue box
[11:16] <bart1105> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gabii/2062279094/
[11:16] <bart1105> that's the link to a snapshot
[11:17] <bazhang> bobiras: can you look for peripehreals (sp) in the kmenu?
[11:17] <bobiras> i searched on system setting
[11:17] <bobiras> but i still can't find from where i change the resolution
[11:17] <bazhang> erland: you upgraded to gutsy via net?
[11:17] <bazhang> bobiras: you using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[11:18] <darkness_s> Lynoure: you are welcome
[11:18] <bobiras> kubuntu
[11:19] <loguser1> i cant add a theme in kdm theme manager. what can be wrong?
[11:19] <bazhang> bobiras: you can find the appearances and themes section? peripherals is below that
[11:19] <erland> bazhang: yes, I upgraded via the net
[11:19] <bazhang> erland: sounds like that old amarok upgrade is conflicting with the new gutsy one somewhere
[11:20] <darkness_s> bobiras: kmenu--System settings--screen
[11:20] <posingaspopular> bart1105: what specifically?
[11:20] <bazhang> thanks darkness_s kbfx menu here :}
[11:21] <bobiras> i'm on system settings menu but there is nothing screen
[11:21] <bart1105> posingaspoppular: i cant get to the other options...check the screenshot here http://www.flickr.com/photos/gabii/2062279094/
[11:21] <posingaspopular> imlooking right now
[11:21] <loguser1> suddenty two of ntfs partitiions have disappeard...
[11:21] <darkness_s> bobiras: monitor or somthing like that
[11:21] <darkness_s> bobiras: my kubuntu is not in english
[11:22] <posingaspopular> you mean the gray areas?
[11:22] <bazhang> monitor and display bobiras--can you look through the systems settings under peripherals for a moment?
[11:22] <bobiras> ok
[11:22] <bart1105> posingaspopular: yes
[11:23] <Aphelia> bazhang: what i'm actually looking for is opera and alien. i have "partner" and "free/nonfree" in sources.list
[11:23] <Aphelia> and can't still find opera and alien
[11:23] <posingaspopular> that's ctrl+f?
[11:23] <posingaspopular> i have a doc open right now and everything seems to be working on my end
[11:23] <bart1105> posingaspopular: i'm running gutsy gibbon on an asus a6rp laptop, screen resolution is 1024x768
[11:23] <bazhang> Aphelia: not sure if medibuntu.org have those--have you checked that site?
[11:23] <bobiras> it suppose to be like in the look&feel menu?
[11:24] <posingaspopular> the only thing I did was click inside the box and type test
[11:24] <bart1105> posingaspopular: yes, its a crtl+f with the advanced options opend
[11:24] <posingaspopular> text* and that worked for me
[11:24] <bazhang> bobiras: settings for keyboard, appearanc and themes, monitor etc there?
[11:24] <loguser1> i cant add a theme in kdm theme manager. what can be wrong?
[11:25] <posingaspopular> i cant seem to be able to recreat that one bart1105
[11:25] <Aphelia> i've just added medibunut to surces.list, did apt-get update and looked at adept again
[11:25] <bart1105> can you show me a screenshot of your open doc??
[11:26] <bobiras> Bazhang: i checked the various menu's there but i can't find from where i change the resolution
[11:27] <posingaspopular> sure one sec while I upload
[11:27] <bart1105> posingaspopular: can i get that dialogue box to get smaller??
[11:27] <darkness_s> bobiras: is your video card nvidia
[11:27] <bazhang> Aphelia: opera is in there (available via apt-cache search) though only alien I see is alien-arena
[11:27] <bobiras> bazhang: yes
[11:27] <posingaspopular> bart1105: this is the screenshot that I have: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1638/snapshot2xg5.jpg
[11:27] <bobiras> bazhang: the proble is that the desktop is not fitting with my screen
[11:28] <loguser1> suddenty two of ntfs partitiions have disappeard...
[11:28] <bazhang> bobiras: well it's in there--perhaps you could try to reset your configuration via the command line--you game?
[11:28] <darkness_s> bobiras: if it is nvidia, type   nvidia-settings  in a console
[11:29] <bobiras> i don't game
[11:29] <Aphelia> bazhang: i found some games with "alien", but i'm looking for a tool "alien" which converts rpm to deb
[11:29] <loguser1> i cant add a theme in kdm theme manager. what can be wrong?
[11:29] <bobiras> i'll try to do that to darkness
[11:29] <bart1105> posingaspopular: can u try it using openoffice calc?
[11:29] <bazhang> bobiras: are you game=are you willing to try
[11:30] <bazhang> Aphelia: not sure there sorry :}
[11:30] <flybye7> Hi all ..
[11:30] <bobiras> oh sorry
[11:30] <bobiras> i would like to try but i don't konw how :)
[11:30] <darkness_s> Aphelia: just sudo apt-get install alien
[11:31] <flybye7> can some kind soul tell me what a listing (fd0) /dev/fd0 is all about___
[11:31] <Aphelia> darkness_s: would that do, if alien isn't showing up in adept?
[11:32] <dah_> Hya all. Any one had any success with the C++ IDEs Anjuta or Eclipse or the GTK version?
[11:32] <bazhang> Aphelia: oops it is there listen to darkness_s
[11:32] <loguser1> can any one please help me.................?
[11:32] <s4xxon> hello, where does my system store the log file with what packages i installed/removed ?
[11:33] <darkness_s> Aphelia: it should work
[11:33] <flybye7> I gues /dev/fd0 is the address of some storage device ... is it a usb stick perhaps?
[11:33] <s4xxon> ok found
[11:33] <bazhang> s4xxon: dpkg -l will show you the list not sure where they are stored
[11:34] <Aphelia> darkness_s: it works, i think its because i don't have the source "main" in adept
[11:34] <ubuntu> hi, i'm installing kubuntu 7.10, but i dont want format the / filesystem, it is possible?
[11:34] <flybye7> ah well .. i will struggel along a bit further...
[11:34] <loguser1> kdm manager is not adding the theme i downloaded
[11:35] <posingaspopular> bart1105: is that the spreadsheet software?
[11:35] <Lynoure> darkness_s: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45772/
[11:35] <bazhang> ubuntu: you want to keep feisty root?
[11:35] <ubuntu> no
[11:35] <ubuntu> i have some data that i could not move
[11:36] <Aphelia> darkness_s: any suggestions, how i can add the main-repository in adept?
[11:36] <bazhang> ubuntu: in your home directory or in / ?
[11:36] <ubuntu> in /
[11:37] <ubuntu> i have in /dev/hda2 a dir called data
[11:37] <ubuntu> and i want to use /dev/hda2 as root
[11:37] <darkness_s> Aphelia: open up adept, then click on adept and manage repositories
[11:38] <bart1105> posingaspopular: its the spreadsheet
[11:38] <bazhang> ubuntu: not sure there--my installs always overwrite /
[11:38] <darkness_s> Lynoure: what if you run the command again? sometimes apt just dies with no reason at all
[11:39] <posingaspopular> bart1105: http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8180/snapshot3kd5.jpg
[11:39] <pjeide> I spent a fair amount of time last night getting my PCI GeForce 6200 to work under Kubuntu.  After blacklisting my onboard drivers and using the Xorg wizard I was able to get ubuntu to boot with the 6200.
[11:39] <pjeide> I promptly used nvidia-settings to configure a dual screen setup.
[11:40] <pjeide> but now ubuntu thinks I have a 2704x1050 big desktop
[11:40] <ubuntu> why the installer want format the root filsystem?
[11:40] <Lynoure> darkness_s: tells me to do apt-get -f install, and that results in the same errors about things being in multiple packages
[11:40] <pjeide> when it is really a 1024x768 next to a 1680x1050 screen
[11:40] <bart1105> posingaspoplular: how come your dialogue screens are smaller than mine?
[11:40] <ubuntu> kubuntu doesnt' like reiserfs?
[11:40] <pjeide> Is there a good way to get a proper setting through so that windows don't launch in the void?
[11:41] <bazhang> ext3 is the default iirc
[11:41] <tekteen> !resolution | pjeide
[11:41] <ubotu> pjeide: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:41] <Aphelia> darkness_s: i enabled all repositories in the first tab before, but i wonder why alien is obviously there, but not showing up in adept
[11:41] <darkness_s> Lynoure: i have run out of ideas
[11:41] <pjeide> tekteen: thank you
[11:42] <tekteen> pjeide: np
[11:42] <darkness_s> Aphelia: i don't know, but you were able to install it with apt-get right?
[11:42] <Aphelia> Darkness_s: yes
[11:45] <darkness_s> Aphelia: weird, maybe try synaptic?
[11:45] <niko_> dear staff
[11:45] <niko_> my kubuntu 7.1 show me in connection manager
[11:45] <niko_> my HTC phone
[11:46] <niko_> wath it means???
[11:47] <darkness_s> that your house is haunted
[11:47] <niko_> it's wonderfull, but i wanna know if is now possible to sync my WM5 pda.....
[11:47] <Aphelia> darkness_s: i'l try kpackage-manager
[11:47] <bart1105> posingaspopular: what is your screen resolution?
[11:49] <niko_> and
[11:49] <niko_> one trouble
[11:49] <niko_> my conmizconfig-settings-manager seems broken
[11:50] <niko_> hey... waz wrong on my?
[11:52] <arash> Hi, when I log in to my moms account, it says I have to change the password. But I dont want to do that, I want it to be the same as the login name (like it was now, but it requires a change), how can I override this problem?
[11:56] <darkness_s> goodbye everybody
[11:57] <cox>  hello all, i need to flash my bios, how i've got the utility & the rom, how do I add it to a cd and make that cd bootable
[12:00] <stdin> Lynoure: ping
[12:02] <Lynoure> stdin: boing-boing-oing.
[12:02] <tekteen> arash: u still here?
[12:05] <posingaspopular> bart1105: 1027 * 768
[12:06]  * tekteen sees 343 ghosts in the room
[12:06] <tekteen> this place is dead
[12:06] <bazhang> heh
[12:07] <tekteen> and I am very bored
[12:07] <Lynoure> tekteen: it's a support channel, not a chatroom
[12:07] <tekteen> ok
[12:07] <Lynoure> tekteen: try on #kubuntu-offtopic if you just want a chat about something fun :)
[12:07] <tekteen> ok
[12:07] <tekteen> sorry (very bored)
[12:08] <Aphelia> darkness_s: is it possible, that there is no opera for amd64?
[12:09] <stdin> Lynoure: looks like you didn't remove all old kde4 beta packages before installing the RC1
[12:09] <Lynoure> stdin: I did...
[12:10] <stdin> can't have, you had kde4base
[12:10] <stdin> "kde4base-data"
[12:10] <stdin> which is an old package
[12:11] <posingaspopular> bart1105: sorry mate, bed time
[12:11] <Lynoure> stdin: oh, I did remove kdelibs5 and thought that would pretty much take everything with it. How can I be sure all is gone?
[12:11] <stdin> !brokenkde4 | Lynoure, by running this command
[12:11] <ubotu> Lynoure, by running this command: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[12:12] <stdin> Lynoure: removing kdelibs5 *should* remove all the old package, but for some it doesn't...
[12:12] <arash> Why does the password system have to be so extremely annoyingly tough?, I want my family to have a simple password so they can login with a password that is their own login name. But it requires a change of password that can't be whatever you want. Can I override the password system and pick a easy password?
[12:12] <stdin> Lynoure: if you get errors about dependencies, just add the packages causing error on to the end of the command
[12:12] <posingaspopular> arash: to change password, type 'passwd' in a terminal/konsole
[12:12] <Lynoure> stdin: thanks.
[12:13] <posingaspopular> im not sure about specific users/logins though
[12:13] <posingaspopular> i only have the one on my computer
[12:13] <posingaspopular> 6am <--- bed
[12:13] <stdin> "sudo passwd <username>" for other users
[12:13] <tekteen> arash: if u don't want to change the pass. open up the system settings program then go into the user section
[12:14] <tekteen> arash: then click the user and click on the "password & security" tab
[12:15] <arash> tekteen:  I thought so too, it says that the password will never needed to be changed, but it has too anyway, probably a bug
[12:15] <tekteen> I will look for other ways (the non gui way) to get rid of it
[12:16] <arash> tekteen: i try to do what stdin said
[12:16] <tekteen> ok
[12:17] <arash> ok, I try to login to her account now...
[12:20] <arash> yay worked, thanks, though the bug is very annoying, somehow the GUI isn't doing anything
[12:21] <tekteen> cool
[12:24] <loguser1> my storage partitions just disappear... some times 2 ntfs drives. some times all.... why. iam using dolphin , k 7.10 ?
[12:31] <loguser1> heloooo..
[12:36] <guh> how can i make a script on /etc/skel thats is executed automatically everytime a user is created? i want to add a quota to the users automatically.
[12:36] <loguser1> !pastbin
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <tekteen> check the adduser config
[12:37] <tekteen> I will look it up
[12:38] <tekteen> guh: found it
[12:38] <tekteen> guh: edit /etc/adduser.conf
[12:38] <guh> tekteen: what if i use ldap? :(
[12:38] <ubuntu> could l have the boot poartition on /dev/hda and the root partition on /dev/hdb or there are problems?
[12:40] <ubuntu> please answer to me :)
[12:40] <tekteen> :-S no clue
[12:40] <loguser1> http://pastebin.ca/796794
[12:40] <loguser1> my storage partitions just disappear... some times 2 ntfs drives. some times all.... why. iam using dolphin , k 7.10 ?
[12:41] <ubuntu> tekteen: with no clue you mean that i dont have problem?
[12:41] <tekteen> ?
[12:41] <tekteen> talking to guh
[12:41] <ubuntu> ah you are not talking to me
[12:41] <ubuntu> ok
[12:41] <tekteen> no problem though
[12:41] <ubuntu> ok, thanks
[12:42] <tekteen> sorry, did not look at your prob. (looking at guh's)
[12:42] <guh> i want to creat a quota to users added on samba, is there any way?
[12:43] <tekteen> samba might have a quota control
[12:43] <dengpeng> could anyone please tell me, which file determines the behavior of windows? only kwinrc?
[12:43] <tekteen> dengpeng: do u use kwin?
[12:44] <dengpeng> tekteen: i have some problem with my kubuntu
[12:44] <tekteen> dengpeng: what prob.
[12:44] <dengpeng> when scroll the mouse wheel on titlebar, it doesn't do what I want it to do
[12:44] <tekteen> ok
[12:44] <dengpeng> even I set it to be "shade/unshade"
[12:45] <tekteen> I know nothing about that
[12:45] <tekteen> sorry
[12:45] <dengpeng> it always switches between windows
[12:45] <pag> dengpeng, which decoration are you using? (iirc ie. Baghira ignored that settings totally..)
[12:45] <dengpeng> tekteen: no prob.
[12:45] <tekteen> what do u want it to do?
[12:46] <dengpeng> which decoration? I'm not sure, but I just start using kde no long, I didn't installed any I think
[12:46] <SatManUK> can i install kubunutu from the live cd without doing the internet check because i need to edit the server file as its not locating the server name via the dns server - i need to put in the ip address
[12:46] <pag> dengpeng, kcontrol -> Desktop -> Window behaviour -> titlebar actions  should let you configure that
[12:46] <dengpeng> tekteen: I just want to shade/unshade anywindow when I scroll on the titlebar
[12:47] <dengpeng> pag: I set "shade/unshade" there, but no effect
[12:47] <tekteen> SatManUK: yes
[12:47] <dengpeng> I remeber it effects at the beginning, but later it started ignoring my settings
[12:48] <tekteen> SatManUK: you could put the server name and ip in the hosts file
[12:48] <stdin> SatManUK: it will just detect there's no connection to the servers and disable the repositories when you install, just remember to re-activate them after you get the network back
[12:48] <pag> dengpeng, hmm.. strange.. it *should* work...
[12:49] <SatManUK> its sticking for ages on the internet test - how long should it take?
[12:49] <loguser1>  i got it. it is showing all in /media. but when i click storage folders. it only shows the ext3 and fat files. and some times shows nothiing why. is that
[12:49] <dengpeng> pag: and also when scrolling on an inactive window, that window gains focus, I don't know if  it's normal
[12:49] <loguser1> what are the drivers for ntfs ?
[12:49] <tekteen> SatManUK: It has to wait to timeout each connection
[12:50] <tekteen> SatManUK: a LONG time
[12:51] <SatManUK> i have a plan - reboot - take the network out for now
[12:51] <SatManUK> do the install
[12:51] <tekteen> just unplug the network
[12:51] <SatManUK> then configure it after..
[12:51] <SatManUK> yes
[12:51] <SatManUK> thats what im doing..!!
[12:51] <SatManUK> bye for now :P
[12:51] <tekteen> bye
[12:52] <lovre> is kde 4.0 coming out on 11.12?
[12:52] <Tm_T> who knows
[12:54] <SSJ_GZ> lovre: That's the plan, but we'll have to wait and see.
[12:56] <lovre> SSJ_GZ: ok, thank you
[13:04] <virnik> hi there, i got problem with uninstalling package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[13:04] <stdin> what's the problem?
[13:05] <virnik> i got here one crap, which demaged that package
[13:05] <virnik> package cant be installed or uninstalled
[13:05] <virnik> it freezes on "configuring package"
[13:05] <virnik> i tryed both dpkg and apt
[13:05] <virnik> it just freezes, but system goes normal
[13:05] <virnik> it can be canceled by ctrl+c
[13:06] <virnik> uninstall or install itself does not continue
[13:06] <stdin> how long have you let it run for?
[13:07] <virnik> ten minutes, and max 20 minutes yesterday
[13:07] <virnik> computer is slow and old...it's my friend's computer
[13:07] <virnik> gotta only 256MB RAM, but it shall work
[13:07] <virnik> load is really low, 0.00
[13:07] <virnik> so...process runs, but takes no cpu power
[13:08] <moroboshi> hi
[13:08] <tekteen> hi
[13:09] <stdin> virnik: well I guess you could try just removing "/var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic.prerm" then doing the uninstall.
[13:09] <stdin> virnik: that's not exactly recommended but it may work
[13:09] <moroboshi> is there an ipod channel?
[13:10] <virnik> stdin: trying right a way, thx
[13:10] <stdin> moroboshi: try ##ipod
[13:10] <moroboshi> ##ipod
[13:14] <FlyBye> Hi all...
[13:14] <newguyss> hi, how do I enable someone to reach my machine using FTP?
[13:14] <FlyBye> can somebody tell me what grub fault #22 means exactly...
[13:14] <virnik> stdin: thx
[13:14] <virnik> stdin: it looks like it works
[13:14] <FlyBye> get it when trying to boot...
[13:15] <stdin> virnik: heh, good. now go fix your system :p
[13:15] <virnik> except warning that list of packages about this modules is missing, but it is nothing critical
[13:15] <virnik> stdin: it is not mine
[13:15] <virnik> it is my friends
[13:15] <tekteen> do u have an ftp server set up
[13:15] <newguyss> no
[13:15] <virnik> but she gotta problem with low memory, and with graphic card...
[13:15] <newguyss> how to set it up
[13:15] <tekteen> !ftpd | newguyss
[13:15] <ubotu> newguyss: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[13:15] <FlyBye> virnik ...you refering to my question??
[13:16] <tekteen> newguyss: graphical front-ends makes it easy to administrate
[13:16] <Tm_T> ssh <3
[13:16] <bobiras> does anyone of u using external HD?
[13:17] <FlyBye> different quest. does kubuntu live have a remote management feature???
[13:17] <virnik> it was really hard way till install
[13:17] <tekteen> bobiras: yes
[13:17] <Tm_T> FlyBye: err what?
[13:17] <virnik> FlyBye: no
[13:17] <loguser1_> what is the partition editor utility for kubuntu. as gparted is for ubuntu ?
[13:17] <FlyBye> sorry virnik...
[13:17] <Tm_T> what is remote management :o
[13:17] <tekteen> bobiras: what is the question
[13:17] <bobiras> tekteen: i got an external WD but i can't make it work
[13:17] <tekteen> ok
[13:17] <FlyBye> tm - so that some other trusted person over the internet could fix problems on this pc...?
[13:18] <FlyBye> remote support might be better word...
[13:18] <KR-data> I got a problem, I installed kubuntu fine and all that, the restricted drivers manager found my nvidia-card and everything is fine, except that xorg won't starte when I restart. The errror from xorg is "Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)" a lsmod | grep nvidia though shows the module as loaded, what do I do?
[13:18] <Tm_T> FlyBye: there is
[13:18] <tekteen> first thing is first. Is it pluged in and on
[13:18] <FlyBye> tm you ever used it...?
[13:18] <tekteen> (have to ask)
[13:18] <bobiras> tekteen: yes
[13:18] <Tm_T> FlyBye: some of those ways yes
[13:18] <Tm_T> FlyBye: ssh is friend
[13:19] <bobiras> i've never used it before
[13:19] <tekteen> bobiras: was it pluged in when u started your computer>
[13:19] <tekteen> ?
[13:19] <andreas__> how can i make my hda automaticly mount at /media/disk?
[13:19] <FlyBye> tm feel like haveing a try to fix the grub on this system.. is supposed to be tri-boot - xp-vista - kubuntu...??
[13:19] <bobiras> no
[13:19] <Tm_T> FlyBye: ssh is friend
[13:19] <loguser1_> what is the partition editor utility for kubuntu. as gparted is for ubuntu ?
[13:19] <bobiras> but it recognising it
[13:20] <FlyBye> tm - sorry I dont understand ssh???
[13:20] <loguser1_> how to unmount and mount again , a partition ?
[13:20] <tekteen> bobiras: what does it do after it is reconized
[13:20] <FlyBye> tm please not I dont yet have a lot of background linux knowl...
[13:20] <Tm_T> !ssh | FlyBye
[13:20] <newguyss> ok I have installed ftpd how to set it up so someone can reach it ?
[13:20] <ubotu> FlyBye: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[13:21] <KR-data> FlyBye, ssh is just a simple way to make a secure terminal connection to your linux box
[13:21] <bobiras> tekteen: i get e prob, when i try to enter it "could not enter folder /media"
[13:21] <virnik> does somebody met Xstartup problem with xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0xf00000000,0x0) (Invalid argument) error?
[13:21] <tekteen> newguyss: install a frontend for it
[13:21] <tekteen> !ftpd| newguyss
[13:21] <ubotu> newguyss: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[13:21] <Tm_T> KR-data: and that way do everything, including run gui apps
[13:21] <tekteen> bobiras: I know the problem
[13:22] <KR-data> Tm_T, true, but I never used that feature much :p
[13:22] <tekteen> bobiras: open up the konsole
[13:22] <FlyBye> ok - hang on I will re-boot to the kubuntu live cd - and come back in here and askyou for the same info again and we can give it a spin perhaps...
[13:22] <newguyss> tekteen: from where, and what is the exact name?
[13:22] <bobiras> done
[13:22] <Tm_T> KR-data: I do, locally
[13:22] <FlyBye> tm - is that ok with you....?
[13:22] <KR-data> Tm_T, well I use it via the internet mostly and it is simple to slow for that
[13:22] <tekteen>  then type ... (slow typer), bobiras
[13:23] <tekteen> give me a sec
[13:23] <SatManUK> which file do i need to edit to set the server name to its ip address
[13:23] <FlyBye> see you in a bit tm - till then....
[13:24] <tekteen> sudo chmod 755 /media
[13:24] <bobiras> tekteen: i got syntax error, maybe it's my fault cause i'm noob to lnux
[13:24] <andreas__> how can i make my hda automaticly mount at /media/disk?
[13:24] <tekteen> type "sudo chmod 755 /media"
[13:24] <SatManUK> which file has the server list list for the repos i think its in /etc?
[13:25] <SatManUK> and i can't get adept to load either so i need another package manager
[13:25] <tekteen> SatManUK: /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:26] <tekteen> bobiras: did you type "sudo chmod 755 /media" in the console?
[13:26] <andreas__> how can i make my hda automaticly mount at /media/disk?
[13:26] <bobiras> tekteen: i got message: missing operand after '755/media'
[13:26] <tekteen> ok
[13:26] <tekteen> there is a space between 755 and /media
[13:27] <bobiras> ok
[13:27] <bobiras> did it
[13:27] <loguser1_> how to unmount and mount again , a partition ?
[13:27] <tekteen> now test if it works
[13:28] <loguser1_> is any one listening to me............ ?
[13:28] <bobiras> tekteen: now i get an error that i don't have enough permitions to enter
[13:28] <tekteen> loguser1_: umount <mount point>; mount <dev> <mountpoint>
[13:28] <SatManUK> it says sources.liist is empty
[13:28] <tekteen> there is one i in LIST
[13:29] <loguser1_> tekteen:  thanks. if its ntfs. then?
[13:29] <bobiras> tekteen: ?
[13:29] <tekteen> bobiras: did u put sudo before it
[13:29] <andy_123> hi, can anyone tellme how to get opengl output to work with kaffeine?
[13:29] <bobiras> yes
[13:29] <tekteen> then enter the password?
[13:30] <loguser1_> tekteen:  what is the mount point by default
[13:30] <bobiras> haven't ask me for a password
[13:30] <tekteen> loguser1_: let me help bobiras first
[13:30] <loguser1_> k
[13:30] <tekteen> bobiras: ok
[13:31] <tekteen> bobiras: post the output of this command "sudo ls -l | grep media"
[13:31] <bobiras> tekteen: it's a western digital HD witch is named mybook
[13:32] <bobiras> tekteen: and then?
[13:32] <tekteen> bobiras: I messed up, post the output of "sudo ls -l / | grep media"
[13:32] <andy_123> can anyone tellme how to recompile a package kubuntu way?
[13:32] <bobiras> tekteen: ok np
[13:33] <bobiras> tekteen: did ti
[13:33] <bobiras> tekteen: *it
[13:33] <tekteen> bobiras: so ,,, what did the program say
[13:33] <tekteen> that command just gives info
[13:33] <bobiras> tekteen: drwr-xr-x 4root root 4096 2007-11-25 14:00 media
[13:34] <tekteen> ok
[13:34] <andreas__> how can i make my hda automaticly mount at /media/disk?
[13:34] <bobiras> tekteen: plus onme more same msg for the cdrom
[13:35] <tekteen> bobiras: unplug and plug the drive back in
[13:35] <bobiras> tekteen: sec
[13:35] <andy_123> can anyone tellme how to get flash working in firefox?
[13:35] <flybye7> Hi all .. can sbdy tell me how to fix it in this kbuntu live cd so that I have a german keyboard support<<./_-)0{[Po':l hmmm quetsionmark
[13:35] <tekteen> bobiras: lets see if it works
[13:35] <novizio> hello, how can i change my right for writing on CDROM?
[13:35] <bobiras> tekteen: the fact is that it recognises it and asks me even how to open it
[13:35] <tekteen> andy_123: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:36] <tekteen> bobiras: cool
[13:36] <tekteen> bobiras: have you opened a folder?
[13:36] <tekteen> tested it?
[13:36] <andy_123> tekteen, thanx
[13:37] <bobiras> tekteen: unable to enter file:///media/My Book. you do not have access rights to this location
[13:37] <bobiras> tekteen: yes and i got this msg
[13:37] <newguyss> how do I add users to my ftpd I have it but its telling me that the user file is not there
[13:37] <tekteen> bobiras: u know what pastebin is?
[13:38] <bobiras> tekteen: nope
[13:38] <andreas__> how can i make my hda automaticly mount at /media/disk?
[13:38] <tekteen> !pastebin | bobiras
[13:38] <ubotu> bobiras: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[13:38] <tekteen> paste the output of the command "sudo ls -l /media"
[13:39] <alexander> hello. I have a strange login response when I mis-enter a password. After the incorrect password is entered, the two fileds (user and passwd) are greyed out.
[13:39] <tekteen> on the pastebin
[13:39] <alexander> I cannot enter any text, but I can select people from the user list
[13:39] <bobiras> tekteen: in the text place?
[13:39] <andreas__> how can i make my hda automaticly mount at /media/disk?
[13:39] <tekteen> bobiras: the pastebin
[13:39] <alexander> IS this a known bug?
[13:39] <flybye7> damn it = I fixed the system language to german but the keyboard is still usenglish...
[13:40] <bobiras> tekteen: did it
[13:40] <tekteen> post the link
[13:40] <flybye7> anz clue how to change this when running kubuntu live cd___qesttionmark//
[13:40] <tekteen> bobiras: what is the address?
[13:41] <bobiras> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45779/
[13:41] <bobiras> tekteen: think to be right
[13:41] <tekteen> looking at it. one sec
[13:41] <bobiras> ok
[13:41] <bobiras> ty vm
[13:41] <tekteen> bobiras: post the output not the command
[13:42] <tekteen> I know the command
[13:42] <tekteen> :-)
[13:42] <PoliticianNEW> is there any way to install IE 7 in kubuntu linux? ies4linux does only work until IE 6 and a portable IE 7 version has only made erro messages
[13:42] <Cold_Inz> I've got one major annoying problem here. something is using 100% of my cpu, but highest process listed in top is Xorg with 0.7 .. found a couple things referring to acpi yesterday, killed acpid and it gave me no more trouble, till I rebooted today. Anyone know of this problem ? was like this both in feisty and gutsy(wich is current, upgraded yesterday)
[13:42] <flybye7> ok i fouind where to change it but is still same .. we restart this perhaps...
[13:42] <virnik> my X server cant start, it writes this: xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer
[13:42] <bobiras> tekteen: sec, on your nem i wrote bobiras and in the text pllace i wrote the cmd you gave
[13:42] <virnik> can somebody help me with this?
[13:43] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: what makes you think something is using all the cpu ?
[13:43] <bobiras> tekteen: and the i did paste
[13:43] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: if you run 'top'  what does it say your load average is?
[13:43] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: all my system monitors show it
[13:43] <flybye7> hmm still the same... engl keyboard... shi]}[pooi=-_
[13:43] <tekteen> what is the url
[13:43] <pjeide> bobiras: run the command given to you in your terminal, copy the result, paste to the pastebin, and post the resulting URL address here
[13:44] <bobiras> tekteen:ok
[13:44] <tekteen> pjeide: thanks
[13:44] <SatManUK> how do i change for Adapatec package manager to synapitc - because it doesn't work
[13:44] <flybye7> forget the friggin kezboad setting .. anzbodz wanna trz using ssl to fix the grub for a tri/boot szstem?
[13:44] <flybye7> hehe / found the ???
[13:45] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: in boot of the system, it "hangs" up for a minute or so, before slowly moving forwards again
[13:45] <bobiras> tekteen:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45780/ hope it's this one
[13:45] <andreas__> how can i make my hda automaticly mount at /media/disk?
[13:45] <flybye7> who is the dutz grub expert?
[13:45] <alexander> Has anyone had issues with Kubuntu locking up the login on a mis-entered password?
[13:45] <flybye7> e e e duty grub expert? heheh
[13:45] <virnik> again, is there somebody who knows why xserver crashes upon start with xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer error?
[13:45] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: sounds like dns problems
[13:45] <virnik> it is old computer with radeon7000 card
[13:46] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: DNS ? how could this be ?
[13:46] <tekteen> bobiras: The problem is that my book is only available to root
[13:46] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: if you do  :  "ifconfig lo"   on the command line, does it show a line like  127.0.0.1
[13:46] <bobiras> tekteen: so, how i can change it?
[13:46] <flybye7> nobody keen to get stuck into a grub-fixing session?
[13:47] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: Yes. it was a problem that (as to my knowledge) suddenly appeared. I'd have it unsaid if it was when upgrading something though
[13:47] <tekteen> bobiras: try this command "sudo chown root.plugdev '/media/My Book'"
[13:47] <techi> Hi Folks, does anyone know how to configure Kubuntu to make microphone working ?
[13:47] <flybye7> I have tried to get the multi-boot working with grub / with wingrub / even with easy bds... nuttin works... help... heheh
[13:47] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: also, reason for reboot now, was while screensaver was running, I suspect it somehow related to power management
[13:48] <tekteen> bobiras: then type ...
[13:48] <bobiras> tekteen: it's reedonly file system
[13:48] <tekteen> ???
[13:48] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: err, I mean the system froze up when calling for power management
[13:48] <tekteen> what was the result of the command
[13:48] <bobiras> tekteen: that came out
[13:48] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: well, do what I suggest and see what happens
[13:48] <flybye7> hmmm / desperate try... is there another disab. air force veteran here who would like to give me a hand with this...?
[13:49] <bobiras> tekteen: exact result :chown: changing ownership of `/media/My Book': Read-only file system
[13:49] <tekteen> bobiras: ok
[13:49] <JohnFlux> flybye7: you haven't really given enough details yet
[13:49] <JohnFlux> flybye7: you've said it doesn't work, but nothing else
[13:50] <tekteen> bobiras: try this command "chmod 770 `/media/My Book'"
[13:50] <tekteen> note, the single quotes are part of the command
[13:50] <bobiras> tekteen: got a new line >
[13:50] <loguser1> tekteen:  are you free now?
[13:51] <flybye7> thanx john... I have a pc with an pata hard disk one part with xp / 2nd partition with vista x64.. and a sata disk with 1 partition storage ntfs and another partition with kubuntu unable to boot to kubuntu...
[13:51] <tekteen> bobiras: what was the new line
[13:51] <flybye7> before I used part magic to fix the mbr all I got was grub error 22...
[13:51] <bobiras> tekteen: nothing, blank
[13:51] <flybye7> have tried all sorts to fix it myself / no success...
[13:51] <loguser1> i can access ntfs partitions since upgrade to 7.10 . any help?
[13:52] <loguser1> i cant access ntfs partitions since upgrade to 7.10 . any help?
[13:52] <flybye7> my hope was that somebody who is real clued up could use a ssh session to have a look at it...
[13:52] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: what DID you suggest ? :P
[13:52] <flybye7> now I am accessing via the kubuntu live cd session....
[13:52] <bobiras> tekteen: sith this '>' like root, and not bobiras@bobiras:~$
[13:53] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: if you do  :  "ifconfig lo"   on the command line, does it show a line like  127.0.0.1
[13:53] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: Yes
[13:53] <tekteen> bobiras: click ctrl + c
[13:53] <flybye7> JohnFlux / is the above any better....?
[13:53] <Cold_Inz> inet addr:127.0.0.1
[13:53] <loguser1> iam in emergency.........
[13:54] <tekteen> bobiras: is the > still there
[13:54] <JohnFlux> flybye7: better, but I don't know :-)   Maybe google for that message
[13:54] <flybye7> and another prob right now is that I have not been able to get a german keyboard setup running in the live session...
[13:54] <bobiras> tekteen: no
[13:54] <JohnFlux> flybye7: try  #grub
[13:54] <DivideZer> why firefox have "netscape" navigator id ?
[13:54] <flybye7> did that / and ok / thanx....
[13:54] <tekteen> bobiras: post the output of "sudo ls -l /media | grep My"
[13:54] <bobiras> tekteen: in the commad i hade to type before i should put sudo at the beggining?
[13:54] <ubunturos> DivideZer: you mean, the appName string of the Navigator?
[13:54] <DivideZer> yes
[13:55] <tekteen> bobiras: yes
[13:55] <ubunturos> DivideZer: probably, because, netscape was "firefox" before firefox, I guess
[13:55] <tekteen> bobiras: sorry
[13:55] <Cold_Inz> DivideZer: firefox can show different IDs, like IE and opera I think
[13:55] <bobiras> tekteen: np same thing happened
[13:55] <Kitano> slt
[13:55] <DivideZer> ubunturos , what you mean firefox was netscape ?
[13:55] <tekteen> click ctrl + c
[13:56] <ubunturos> DivideZer: well, Netscape was "the firefox" of its time
[13:56] <bobiras> tekteen: ok
[13:56] <tekteen> bobiras: post the output of "sudo ls -l /media | grep My"
[13:57] <DivideZer> ubunturos , so what , i dont understand ? firefox is based on netscape source or what ?
[13:57] <bobiras> tekteen: sorry but nothing came out
[13:57] <ubunturos> DivideZer: partially, yes
[13:57] <tekteen> is the HD plugged in
[13:57] <bobiras> tekteen: yes
[13:57] <DivideZer> netspace is open source ?
[13:58] <bobiras> tekteen: shall i replug it?
[13:58] <ubunturos> DivideZer: no
[13:58] <tekteen> yep
[13:58] <fabio> im new in linux
[13:58] <fabio> i dont know how to install software
[13:58] <ubunturos> DivideZer: I assume, netscape lead to Mozilla Browser (note, *Mozilla*) which further lead to Mozilla Firefox
[13:58] <fabio> i need mp3 support
[13:59] <tekteen> I wish I could use ssh sooo much
[13:59] <Cold_Inz> There is no process listed wich uses 100% of the cpu, max 1%, and there is nothing abnormal in process tree either, and it seems to be related to the freezeup I had (supposedly when power management kicked in) anyone seen this before ? using kde 3.5.8, kernel 2.6.22-14 generic 1686
[13:59] <bobiras> tekteen: shall i put it on bin?
[13:59] <tekteen> bobiras: does the option window come up
[13:59] <tekteen> bin?
[14:00] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: i would say that the system monitor thing is lying to you :-)
[14:00] <tekteen> oh
[14:00] <bobiras> tekteen: pastebin
[14:00] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: what does 'top'  say your load average is?
[14:00] <tekteen> u mean like on macs?
[14:00] <ubunturos> DivideZer: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/ben/archives/009698.html - might interest you
[14:00] <tekteen> bobiras: what is the url?
[14:00] <alexander> hello. I have a strange login response when I mis-enter a password. After the incorrect password is entered, the two fileds (user and passwd) are greyed out. I cannot enter any text, otherwise the GUI is responsive. Has anyone seen this beofre?
[14:01] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: uh sorry how do I see the load "average" ? everything is listed below 1%, 'cept Xorg
[14:01] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: sorry, 3,35
[14:01] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: sorry, 3,34*
[14:01] <SatManUK> how to change to default package and update manager from adapt to synaptic
[14:01] <bobiras> tekteen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45781/
[14:01] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: hmmmm
[14:01] <tekteen> ok
[14:01] <loguser1> i cant access ntfs partitions since upgrade to 7.10 . any help?
[14:01] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: there's 3 numbers.  do they all say that same number, roughly?
[14:02] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: copy'n'paste: load average: 3.34, 3.21, 2.80
[14:02] <matttis> hi
[14:02] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: and in top, there's no process at the top using lots of cpu?
[14:03] <matttis> Where do I find the configuration files of kdm ?
[14:03] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: No. Couldn't this be related to the "hangup" in the booting of the system ?
[14:03] <tekteen> bobiras: Here is the problem: the daemon that mounts these things is neither mounting them with the correct gid nor the correct permissions
[14:04] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: if there's a daemon or something wich isn't quite feeling well I mean
[14:04] <tekteen> I am not sure why. I will google it
[14:04] <loguser1> i cant access ntfs partitions since upgrade to 7.10 . any help?
[14:04] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: could you msg me (or upload somewhere) the result of    cat /proc/interrupts
[14:04] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: nothing seems to be working slower as I can see, could it be procinfo that's lying ?
[14:05] <bobiras> tekteen: is there a solution to this problem?
[14:05] <fabio> i want play mp3s in kubuntu
[14:05] <fabio> can you help me
[14:05] <fabio> ?
[14:05] <JohnFlux> !mp3 | fabio
[14:05] <ubotu> fabio: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:05] <tekteen> bobiras: no clue
[14:06] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: private messages from uregistered users is blocked. shall I put in a text file and try send it to you ?
[14:06] <tekteen> bobiras: ask on the forums and list that is your problem
[14:06] <bobiras> tekteen: ie tried to go on properties and change the mount as user, from mounting tab
[14:06] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: upload to http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php
[14:06] <loguser1> what are the ways in kubuntu gusty to mount and unmout a ntfs partition?
[14:06] <fabio> i use kubuntu
[14:07] <JohnFlux> !ntfs | loguser1
[14:07] <ubotu> loguser1: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[14:07] <bobiras> tekteen: but still got that problem, and i don't even know how to get more pivilegies
[14:08] <SatManUK> oki have downloaded synaptic - but i can't get it to load
[14:08] <bobiras> tekteen: although i want to tank you for your time. been more patient
[14:08] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: done?
[14:09] <tekteen> bobiras there is a tmp solution
[14:09] <bobiras> tektenn: such?
[14:09] <fabio> i cant find  kubuntu-restricted-extras.
[14:09] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: Sorry I'm probably a complete moron but I can't seem to find any uploading tool on the site
[14:09] <fabio> in adept installer
[14:10] <tekteen> bobiras: click alt+F2 then type "kdesudo konqueror" in the window
[14:10] <tekteen> bobiras: this will give konqueror root abilities
[14:10] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: click on the url I posted, then paste your message into the text area, add your name, then click Send
[14:10] <JohnFlux> tekteen: kdesu
[14:10] <tekteen> kdesudo works too
[14:10] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: Sorry. I AM a complete moron. I'll do it right away.
[14:11] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: :-)
[14:11] <fabio> i need mp3 suport but adept installer do not work
[14:11] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: Done
[14:11] <JohnFlux> !doesntwork
[14:11] <JohnFlux> !doesnotwork
[14:11] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[14:11] <bobiras> tekteen: getting the following msg, could not run such command
[14:11] <JohnFlux> fabio: ^^
[14:11] <Norgur> @fabio: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:11] <flybye7> JohnFlux / nobody there in #grub...
[14:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesnotwork - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:11] <flybye7> pleanty there / but nowone responds...
[14:11] <tekteen> bobiras: sorry I have no idea
[14:11] <JohnFlux> flybye7: ;-)
[14:12] <bobiras> tekteen: ty again
[14:12] <flybye7> shi/ happens.. heheh
[14:12] <bobiras> tekteen: nvm, i'll try to find a solution
[14:13] <flybye7> so is there now some kind and knowedgable person here who would like to crack a grub problem on a tri/boot system via a ssh session?
[14:13] <SatManUK> ok - i have a problem launching some applications from the package menu - they just seem to quit - i load adapt - it quits - i load synaptic - it quits - if i load it from konsole its fine suggestions?
[14:13] <SatManUK> applications - k menu i mean
[14:14] <SatManUK> !mp3
[14:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:14] <fabio> im new in linux but i cant finde restricted extras
[14:15] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: done?
[14:16] <JohnFlux> fabio: did you follow:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[14:16] <JohnFlux> fabio: what part did you get stuck on?
[14:16] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: yeah, long ago =)
[14:16] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: put in cpuinfo as well as an addition
[14:16] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: ... so now tell me the url :P
[14:16] <flybye7> whos the duty grub/guru???
[14:17] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: *cough*whistle* http://pastebin.com/d647168  CPUINFO: http://pastebin.com/m3ff0ff13
[14:18] <F3000> Hi! Anyone here know how to fix "restricted drivers manager"?
[14:19] <andreas__> how can i make my hda automaticly mount at /media/disk?
[14:20] <newguyss> hi, how do I allow cgi outside the sgi bin
[14:21] <newguyss> cgi bin
[14:21] <Cold_Inz> andreas__: one way to do it is to add the command lines to /etc/rc.local, but there's probably a better way. just incase you don't get any response from here
[14:21] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: it all looks okay :/
[14:22] <matttis> Where do I find the configuration files of kdm ?
[14:22] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: could you do:  vmstat  2    and pastebin say 5 or so lines
[14:22] <virnik> hi guys, I know i alreay presented that problem here, but i got it again, and I cant solve it alone. i have borked fglrx module, so I choosed reinstalling linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[14:22] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: as far as I've seen, there's a daemon to wich monitors the system, (acpid?) could that be lying ?
[14:22] <virnik> but I got serious problems with it
[14:22] <virnik> install process freezes itself on Configuring package ...
[14:23] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: I'm not sure what the problem is
[14:23] <virnik> i can cancel it with ctrl+c, but module is not installed
[14:23] <andreas__> Okay, can u also tell me how i get write priveliges to the partition? I have to open it as root to create/paste files on it.
[14:23] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: http://pastebin.com/d1454d0b9
[14:23] <virnik> it is the same with apt or dpkg
[14:24] <JohnFlux> andreas__: ntfs ?
[14:24] <andreas__> nope. linux partition
[14:24] <virnik> tryed tip i got from one guy from here, deleting /var/lib/dpkg/info/ files depending this package, but it does not help
[14:25] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz:  1  1      0 388416  93064 334428    0    0    64    34  298 13717 32 15  0 53
[14:25] <andreas__> Cold_Inz: nope. linux partition
[14:25] <Cold_Inz> andreas__: mount -o uid=YOURUID gid=YOURGROUPID source /mountpoint I think
[14:25] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz:  that line is your problem - a huge number of 'system cs'  - meaning context switches
[14:25] <virnik> can somebody help? i am freezed on this from yesterday
[14:25] <andreas__> Cold_Inz: That is to adwanse for me.
[14:25] <virnik> just write me PM or querry, i am gonna for smoke
[14:25] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: the problem is that something in the kernel is requesting attention, continually
[14:26] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: 7 thousand times a second :(
[14:26] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: a buggy driver ?
[14:26] <Cold_Inz> ouch !
[14:26] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: indeed
[14:26] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: I have no idea how to track it down further sorry
[14:26] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: at least now I've got a clue, thanks =)
[14:27] <virnik> what about my problem?
[14:27] <virnik> can somebody help me solve it?
[14:27] <Cold_Inz> andreas__: UID is your user id, same as your login name. groupID is mostly same as UID or "users".
[14:27] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: I think we use  pmount  these days
[14:27] <JohnFlux> not mount
[14:28] <flybye77> ha - found the keyboard fix .. ah ha... yippeee...
[14:28] <JohnFlux> andreas__: pmount /dev/whatever       should be sufficent
[14:28] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: pmount .. ? oh.. world continues to grow it seems LOL
[14:28] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: indeed
[14:28] <andreas__> Cold_Inz: okay!  Thx
[14:28] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: it's the new standard :-)
[14:28] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: makes it easier for n00bz like me, this pmount ..
[14:30] <Cold_Inz> andreas__: You could try "pmount /dev/disk /mountpoint". as JohnFlux said, there's a new standard I was not aware of =)
[14:30] <JohnFlux> !pmount
[14:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pmount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:30] <PeterPan_> i can read ntfs files but cant write them. i have ntfs-3g...   why?
[14:30] <Cold_Inz> w00t, have we gotten full NTFS write support as well now ?
[14:31] <andreas__> does pmount automaticly mount the hda everytime i reboot
[14:32] <Cold_Inz> andreas__: no I don't think so, try adding the command (test it first ;) to /etc/rc.local <- this is a runlevel thingy, meaning it will run all commands within when you boot the system
[14:33] <andreas__> Cold_Inz: I'll try;D
[14:33] <vonvenom> hi
[14:34] <JohnFlux> andreas__: if you want it mounted at bootup, it should be added to /etc/fstab
[14:34] <vonvenom> everybody is english ?
[14:34] <andreas__> JohnFlux: Do i open fstab in kate?
[14:34] <stdin> !fr | vonvenom
[14:34] <ubotu> vonvenom: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:35] <vonvenom> merci!
[14:35] <Cold_Inz> andreas__: if you wanna use kate, run "kdesu kate" in command line
[14:35] <andreas__> !pastebin
[14:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:36] <JohnFlux> !mount
[14:36] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[14:36] <JohnFlux> !fstab
[14:36] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[14:36] <JohnFlux> andreas__: maybe doing it the gui way is better
[14:36] <JohnFlux> andreas__: Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem
[14:36] <JohnFlux> andreas__: maybe do that?
[14:36] <JohnFlux> !partitions
[14:36] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[14:36] <andreas__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45784/       what do i change?
[14:37] <JohnFlux> andreas__: close kate, and maybe try that gui way first
[14:37] <andreas__> JohnFlux: okay
[14:38] <Cold_Inz> I'd listen way more to JohnFlux than me, he actually knows what he's saying(I just made some response so that someone would get pissed and tell it the right way hehehe)
[14:38] <JohnFlux> Cold_Inz: not at all - I just typed  !mount   on a hunch, and got that info
[14:38] <JohnFlux> andreas__: the problem is, it's changing quite rapidly, and most of us just aren't used to the 'easy' way to do things.  :)
[14:39] <andreas__> JohnFlux: lol, it's writen in chinese or somthing -.-  And i got Norwegian launguge
[14:39] <JohnFlux> andreas__: :-D
[14:39] <andreas__> JohnFlux: I understand:P
[14:39] <Cold_Inz> indeed ... I've discovered a whole new (and beautiful) world after kubuntu.. used to be a slackware/gentoo user :P
[14:40] <Cold_Inz> JohnFlux: should there normally be at least abit usage of swap ? according to a monitor, I'm using 0% swap of 489mb
[14:42] <andreas__> JohnFlux: can you change the fstab file for me?  the gui is in chinese!
[14:43] <JohnFlux> andreas__: on the command line, maybe do:    LANG=en  systemsettings
[14:44] <PeterPan_> i can read ntfs files but cant write them. i have ntfs-3g...   why?
[14:45] <Cold_Inz> andreas__: Control Center -> regional and accessability -> Country/region and language (everything as it should there ? I looked at my GUI thingy and it worked, but I've got mine in english though)
[14:46] <andreas__> got it now. I'll reboot, to check that it worked!
[14:49] <Cold_Inz> I have a silly question: doesn't swap have any mount point ? I see it doesn't in my fstab
[14:49] <Cold_Inz> and I can't remember =/
[14:50] <PeterPan_>  i cant see opera in kubuntus package manager. why?
[14:50] <Tm_T> PeterPan_: Opera isn't free, we are not allowed to distribute just like that
[14:52] <Cold_Inz> Tm_T: opera and opera-static shows up on my "aptitude search opera" ...
[14:53] <Cold_Inz> and opera is listed for feisty and gutsy on opera.com
[14:53] <Tm_T> Cold_Inz: because you have some extra repository
[14:53] <Cold_Inz> Tm_T: I have absolutely no idea why I have that if so =/
[14:53] <Tm_T> Cold_Inz: because you have installed them perhaps?
[14:54] <Tm_T> anyway, Opera isn't in default repositories
[14:54] <Tm_T> !opera
[14:54] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[14:54] <Cold_Inz> all I've done is apt-get update and apt-get upgrade .. I haven't installed anything regarding that.. but perhaps I got it because I'm below average intelligent ?
[14:55] <Tm_T> Cold_Inz: erm?
[14:55] <Cold_Inz> nothing ;) just making out a point, if I've installed an extra repository then I must've been sleepwalking, I don't even have a clue how to do that
[14:55] <Tm_T> heh
[14:56] <Tm_T> Cold_Inz: do "apt-cache show opera" in konsole
[14:57] <Cold_Inz> Tm_T: I'ma put this in pastebin.
[14:57] <Tm_T> Cold_Inz: aye
[14:57] <Cold_Inz> Tm_T: http://pastebin.com/d5f8567c6
[14:57] <PeterPan_> Tm_T:  i once installed opera. and once ubuntu came with preinstalled opera
[14:58] <Tm_T> PeterPan_: not official Ubuntu
[14:58] <draik> Hello all
[14:59] <Tm_T> Cold_Inz: yup, from Opera site is that package
[14:59] <PeterPan_>  i once installed opera. and once ubuntu came with preinstalled opera
[14:59] <PeterPan_>  i cant see opera in kubuntus package manager. why?
[14:59] <Cold_Inz> *smacks own forehead* crap.
[14:59] <PeterPan_> Tm_T:  it was offical
[14:59] <Tm_T> PeterPan_: I repeat, official Ubuntu nor Kubuntu isn't coming with Opera, that is a hard fact
[15:00] <draik> !forefox
[15:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about forefox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:00] <stdin> PeterPan_: it's illegal for ubuntu to try to distribute it now
[15:00] <draik> !firefox
[15:00] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[15:00] <Cold_Inz> PeterPan_: http://www.opera.com/download/
[15:00] <PeterPan_> k
[15:00] <PeterPan_> thx
[15:00] <Tm_T> draik: /msg ubotu
[15:00] <PeterPan_> i think fire fox is better?
[15:00] <draik> Would anyone know why I can't download with Firefox? It crashes with any download
[15:01] <draik> Tm_T: I was maybe hoping for a link to a firefox channel or something.
[15:01] <Tm_T> draik: nope without debug output
[15:01] <draik> Tm_T: How do I get a debug output?
[15:01] <Tm_T> noo idea
[15:01] <Tm_T> #firefox @ mozillanet ?
[15:01] <Cold_Inz> Is APMd know to be buggy on kernel 2.6.22* ?
[15:02] <draik> Thank you Tm_T
[15:02] <Tm_T> you're welcome
[15:08] <dobach> hellow
[15:08] <FlyBye> still looking for help on a grub problem for a xp-visa-kubuntu system .. any offers???
[15:10] <sacrifice> gurbinstall after vista installed
[15:10] <FlyBye> yep...
[15:10] <FlyBye> xp and vista were on the box...
[15:10] <jpatrick> !grub | FlyBye
[15:10] <ubotu> FlyBye: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:11] <FlyBye> before I repaird the mrb I get grub fault report #22
[15:11] <FlyBye> jpat.. I have already done all the stuff in the info in the bot message - just go round in circles...
[15:11] <jpatrick> odd.
[15:11] <FlyBye> I dont have enough background knowledge to fix it with the infos there...
[15:12] <FlyBye> I really need sbdy who is happy to access the pc on a ssh session and have a look at it directly...
[15:13] <FlyBye> jpat .. if you are interested in taking a run at it - i need to re-boot with the kubuntu live cd and then need to start a ssh session .. but also need to know how to set that up...?
[15:14] <FlyBye> reason for kubuntu install is to learn linux...
[15:16] <FlyBye> somebody else interested in taking a look at a grub problem???
[15:16] <alexander> hello. I have a strange login response when I mis-enter a password. After the incorrect password is entered, the two fileds (user and passwd) are greyed out. I cannot enter any text, otherwise the GUI is responsive. Has anyone seen this beofre?
[15:17] <FlyBye> alex - I would be happy if I got as far as that with the boot to be honest...
[15:17] <alexander> lol
[15:18] <alexander> i am certainly a linux noob too
[15:18] <FlyBye> with my problem at the moment i get as far as hung boot - grub fault #22 - end of story.. heheh
[15:19] <FlyBye> alex - achtssst - your no good - fuck off.. heheheh <not serious>
[15:19] <alexander> np
[15:19] <alexander> would it help if i told you that I like Kubuntu otherwise :P
[15:20] <FlyBye> yeah .. really - I will probably like it too - a whole lot more when I get it too boot the first time hehehe!!
[15:20] <alexander> just curious. Have you tried just regular ubuntu?
[15:20] <FlyBye> ( I can get into the kubuntu live cd session - but that is the limit of it at the moment...)
[15:21] <FlyBye> no - i like kde..
[15:21] <FlyBye> way back I had opensuse for a while with kde...
[15:21] <Tm_T> FlyBye: possibility go the easiest path and reinstall Kubuntu?
[15:21] <alexander> i think you can add KDE later. anyone else want to verify that?
[15:21] <Tm_T> alexander: yes, not the issue though in this case
[15:21] <Sajes> FlyBye: .. You could format the drive, install windows leaving a bit of space left for kubuntu, and then after windows is installed, install kubuntu.
[15:23] <FlyBye> Sajes.. I already had xp and vista installed and was trying to install kubuntu as a 3rd o-system...
[15:24] <FlyBye> no way do I want to take off xp and vista.. need a week to re-install and get back to square one...
[15:24] <FlyBye> while it might be dumb for me (as a noob-) to say so - it *only* needs the grub correctly installed and configured .. eh...
[15:25] <FlyBye> sounds arrogant but u c what I mean I guess...
[15:25] <Tm_T> FlyBye: yup, the "under-the-fence" method would be just reinstall Kubuntu
[15:25] <FlyBye> Sajes.. what I really need is sbdy who knows thier stuff to come on a ssh session and sort it out...
[15:25] <Tm_T> !grub | FlyBye
[15:25] <ubotu> FlyBye: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:26] <Sajes> FlyBye: If that was the case, then grub would be fine. Grub dies when the MBR is formatted to install windows. That happens after grub is installed, and then windows later.
[15:26] <Tm_T> FlyBye: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[15:26] <FlyBye> free engish roast and a few beers in berlin the next time here in response..
[15:26] <Sajes> FlyBye: Having someone do it for you won't help you learn.
[15:26] <onishidato> hello every one
[15:27] <FlyBye> I made some mistake when installing the kubuntu.. and appart from that there was a lot of complicated instructions in a local comp. magazine how to do this - but it involved re-doiing a whol load of partitions with gparted - but that could not access the existing particions..
[15:27] <FlyBye> sajes.. I will learn from then as we do it together online..
[15:27] <FlyBye> I am a realist.. I know when I am out of my deapth...
[15:28] <pippo> ciao ragazzi
[15:28] <SatManUK> i am trying to install skype - however when i load the deb file - it asks me to load it - but instead of asking for password - just quits - suggestions?
[15:28] <FlyBye> I need to learn one chapter after the other - fixing this grub problem comes in about chapter 23 I suspect.. I am still on chapter 2 - or 3 .. heheh
[15:28] <pippo> italiani?
[15:29] <Tm_T> !it | pippo
[15:29] <ubotu> pippo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:29] <vic> fsd
[15:30] <draik> What is the purpose to ubufox?
[15:30] <FlyBye> ah well - I am giving up for today..
[15:33] <mzanfardino> I'm befudled by my intel wireless adapters performance.  As soon as I start transfering files, whether locallly on my intranet or from outside I can watch my network conncetions starts to drop on a fairly regular frequency.  Does anyone have any experience with the ipw2100 driver or Intel PRO nic for laptop computers?
[15:43] <ubuntu> good afternoon
[15:43] <ubuntu> i have a little performance partition question..
[15:43] <ubuntu> i have 2 sata hdds, 150 gb each
[15:44] <ubuntu> what is the best setup for the best performance?
[15:45] <mooper> hello, my laptop keeps freezing for no apparent reason. can anyone give me some help diagnosing why?
[15:46] <Tm_T> mooper: try follow mem and cpu usage
[15:46] <Tm_T> mooper: htop is good tool for that
[15:46] <Tm_T> ubuntu: I'd say "do as you like" :(
[15:47] <ubuntu> owh
[15:47] <ubuntu> it doesn't matter?
[15:47] <Tm_T> well usually it isn't the part that slows you down
[15:47] <ubuntu> ok
[15:47] <ubuntu> thx ;)
[15:48] <mooper> Tm_T: err, so just keep looking at this?
[15:48] <Tm_T> ubuntu: just make separate / and /home
[15:48] <ubuntu> and swap on the 2nd disk?
[15:48] <Tm_T> mooper: well if freeze has something to do to some cpu spike or mem spike or etc
[15:48] <Tm_T> ubuntu: or first, or, em, who knows
[15:48] <Tm_T> I don't
[15:48] <ubuntu> ok
[15:48] <ubuntu> thx
[15:49] <Tm_T> I have only slow patas so...
[15:50] <SatManUK> how do i modify grub to detect windows?
[15:50] <Tm_T> !grub
[15:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:51] <alexander> I am seeing some strange login behavior
[15:52] <alexander> when I misenter the password for any user, the login text fields ae uneditable
[15:52] <alexander> so i cannot login
[15:52] <alexander> i am able to login if i enter the password properly
[15:52] <alexander> is there anyone who has seen this
[15:52] <Sajes> I'm seeing Kopete not connect to msn and me having to install aMSN. :( wonder if it's a bug. Anyone else getting that problem?
[15:53] <Tm_T> Sajes: how it doesn't connect?
[15:53] <Sajes> Tm_T: It tries to connect, shows the butterfly flapping it's wings, stops with no error and the butterfly goes grey again.
[15:54] <Tm_T> Sajes: okie, and you have all updates installed?
[15:54] <Sajes> Tm_T: If by updates you mean sudo apt-get update then yes. If you mean the upgrade command.. no. <_<
[15:54] <ubuntu> thx for the help Tm_T, I'm switsing from windoze to kubuntu
[15:55] <Tm_T> Sajes: update and upgrade
[15:55] <Sajes> Tm_T: I just checked. The upgrade command only wants to update Opera. :o
[15:55] <Tm_T> Sajes: apt-get update only updates package lists, upgrade packages itself
[15:55] <Tm_T> Sajes: anyway, MSN has their usual server borkage I assume
[15:56] <Sajes> Tm_T: aMSN is connecting. :o
[15:56] <Tm_T> Sajes: yes, still
[15:56] <Tm_T> Sajes: you can try connecting with http method, see Kopete msn account settings
[15:56] <Tm_T> Sajes: they have not just one server to handle logins IIRC, it's up to luck which one you get
[15:57] <Sajes> Tm_T: I see. I never knew that. :P
[15:57] <substancev> listen i get this error.... kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot.
[15:58] <substancev> i don't know if it is an error but i can't get my box to boot to gui
[15:58] <substancev> startx works
[15:58] <substancev> fresh install
[15:59]  * ubuntu is leaving; -> installing kubuntu :)
[16:00] <ubuntu> o/
[16:00] <WaltzingAlong> substancev: that is just a message, not an error and not the thing preventing X from showing
[16:00] <Sajes> Brb. I have to restart X. NVIDIA driver just got done :D
[16:02] <Sajes> Swoot. Back. Now i'll try the kopete tip you gave me :D
[16:03] <Sajes> Tm_T: Nope. Still the same result.
[16:03] <Tm_T> Sajes: okie
[16:03] <Tm_T> Sajes: then try different port, +1 from current
[16:04] <WaltzingAlong> msn messenger accounts here are connected via kopete
[16:04] <Tm_T> WaltzingAlong: yes, serverside issue we are trying to bypass temporary
[16:04] <Tm_T> Sajes: still http method
[16:05] <Tm_T> Sajes: if that doesn't do it, reset to original settings and wait few days, should be gone by then
[16:05]  * Tm_T hates MSN
[16:05] <franz__> !adept
[16:05] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[16:05] <substancev> so how do i find out what is preventing my machine from booting into X
[16:05] <Sajes> Tm_T: "There was an error while connecting to the MSN server. Error message: network failure occured"
[16:06] <franz__> !apt-fix
[16:06] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:06] <substancev> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does nothing for me
[16:06] <Tm_T> Sajes: heh
[16:06] <SatManUK> how can i detect which partition windows is installed on for the boot manager?
[16:06] <Sajes> Tm_T: Does Kubuntu come with a firewall pre-enabled or something?
[16:06] <Tm_T> not really
[16:07] <Tm_T> believe me, it's serverside issue
[16:07] <substancev> Sajes: nope...
[16:07] <substancev> Sajes
[16:07] <Tm_T> Sajes: Jabber is your friend :)
[16:07] <substancev> Sajes: doing firewall in a linux enviornment is a task.
[16:07] <Sajes> Tm_T: What's Jabber?
[16:08] <substancev> Sajes: what are you trying to do?... jabber messaging network
[16:08] <jpatrick> !jabber
[16:08] <ubotu> jabber is a free and open source instant messaging protocol, unlike MSN and AIM. Supporting clients on Linux: Kopete (KDE), Gaim (GNOME). For more info see http://www.jabber.org
[16:08] <Sajes> substancev: I'm trying to connect to MSN. <_<
[16:08] <substancev> Sajes: are you on wireless?
[16:08] <substancev> Sajes: or behind a router
[16:09] <Sajes> substancev: Nope. I'm on.. *shivers* dial up.. No router for me :(
[16:09] <substancev> Sajes: forget the wireless comment.
[16:09] <Sajes> substancev: Getting sattelite internet in 3 days though. Nothing else out here but that and dial up.
[16:10] <substancev> where you at australia?
[16:10] <Sajes> substancev: Michigan.
[16:10] <substancev> Sajes: lol. you should have more options then that... satallite is going to suck..
[16:11] <substancev> so who can help me get my machine to boot into the gui... It was working in the GDM ... but KDM is not booting into the gui... just the console..
[16:11] <Sajes> substancev: I've tried every ISP I could find. They all said they couldn't get good enough signal to set anything up. Sattelite isn't so bad. I've used it before.
[16:11] <substancev> Sajes: better pray for clear weather
[16:12] <Sajes> substancev: Yeah. True. o_o
[16:12] <B4S3M> i got aMSN on Gutsy ... but when i run it it shows no contacts :S
[16:12] <SatManUK> if windows is on sda5, then how do i set it up in grub?
[16:13] <jpatrick> SatManUK: use the disks and filesystem manager in systemsettings
[16:14] <B4S3M> how can i connect with aMSN ?
[16:14] <substancev> jpatrick: you seem knowledgable...
[16:15] <SatManUK> ok im in their - how to set grub from disks and filesystems?
[16:15] <substancev> jpatrick: why am i unable to boot directly into gui... on a fresh install of kubuntu.. even the live cd doesn't work
[16:15] <substancev> jpatrick: im on a laptop and ubuntu installed fine.
[16:15] <substancev> jpatrick: startx gets me in
[16:15] <jpatrick> substancev: maybe you don't have enough memory for it, I have a laptop and Kubuntu doesn't work from the install cd either
[16:16] <substancev> jpatrick: i have 2GB of memory....
[16:16] <jpatrick> odd, well I have a similar problem, I have to use the alternative cd
[16:17] <substancev> jpatrick: well i used the alternate cd for installtion and the same thing happens.. right now im chatting via bitchx
[16:17] <SatManUK> jpatrick: im in disks and file systems but i don't see anything for grub?
[16:17] <jpatrick> !grub | SatManUK
[16:17] <ubotu> SatManUK: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:18] <SatManUK> i been their once and i didn't understand it..
[16:18] <jpatrick> substancev: odd
[16:18] <B4S3M> how can i connect with aMSN?
[16:18] <ardchoille> jpatrick: Would it help if he put a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions?
[16:19] <jpatrick> !patience | B4S3M
[16:19] <ubotu> B4S3M: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:19] <substancev> jpatrick: initially it wouldn't find screens... so i tried installing the latest linux nvidia drivers... errored out due to lack of libc6-dev files.. installed that and i was able to install nvidia successfully. so doing startx works now
[16:19] <substancev> jpatrick: but now it wont go in on its own.
[16:19] <ardchoille> Never mind, that wouldn't get him to kdm
[16:20] <SatManUK> B4S3M: i would recomend kopete over amsn - i always found amsn crashed and wish an application name of "wish its no wonder"
[16:20] <jpatrick> substancev: have you tried sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start?
[16:20] <substancev> jpatrick: i recall doing so.. i will try again. i believe it blinks my screen and just gives me a flashing cursor... i get the F7 console
[16:21] <substancev> i guess the F7 console rather.. brb trying again.
[16:21] <ardchoille> Sounds like kdm wasn't properly set up
[16:21] <BluesKaj> substancev,F7 should give the desktop if yer loggin
[16:21] <BluesKaj> err logged in
[16:22] <substancev>  /etc/init.d/kdm start states KDM is already running.. let me try alt-f7
[16:22] <jpatrick>  /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[16:23] <substancev> same thing... blank screen with blinking cursor... its the gui.. but its not kicking off.
[16:23] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt+F1 for the TTY prompt, ctrl+alt+F7 for the desktop
[16:23] <B4S3M> SatManUK: everytime i use kopete , it crashes :S
[16:23] <substancev> BluesKaj: yea i got that... F7 console is the gui but nothing is on it and KDM is running. just a blank screen with blinking cursor.... please note that startx will get me into kubuntu desktop
[16:24] <SatManUK> B4S3M: pidgin then..
[16:24] <SatManUK> aMSN isn't any use..
[16:24] <SatManUK> B4S3M: sudo apt-get install pidgin should solve your problem
[16:24] <Tm_T> solve what problem?
[16:24] <ardchoille> substancev: Odd, never seen that before.
[16:24] <substancev> B4S3M: why don't you apt-get remove --purge the kopete application and reinstall
[16:25] <SatManUK> connection to msn..
[16:25] <Tm_T> SatManUK: no, it's not because of client, as I said many times before
[16:25] <substancev> ardchoille: me neither in the years i been a ubuntu fan never seen this.. regular flavor(GNOME) of ubuntu works perfectly
[16:25] <SatManUK> i know that..
[16:25] <SatManUK> kopete works perfectly for me
[16:25] <SatManUK> but if it crashes - then doesn't trying another program provide an alternative solution?
[16:26] <substancev> ardchoille: i think initially it wasn't going in due to lack of drivers... but now that the drivers are installed it seems not to be working... how can i check my start logs
[16:26] <BluesKaj> substancev, hmm, do a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , the init file is obviously not setup right
[16:26] <SatManUK> how do i convert a /dev/sda5 into a hd0,x problem?
[16:26] <substancev> BluesKaj: whats the dpkg-reconfigure command for kubuntu-desktop
[16:26] <SatManUK> if linux is 0,7 then windows 0,5?
[16:26] <substancev> that should assist me right?
[16:26] <B4S3M> SatManUK: i neeed the most likely to Windows live messanger is it kopete ot pidgin ?
[16:26] <substancev> SatManUK: that depends on what partition they are in..
[16:27] <SatManUK> either will do it
[16:27] <SatManUK> kopete supports file transfer
[16:27] <SatManUK> pidgin has a spell checker..
[16:27] <Tm_T> so does Kopete
[16:27] <SatManUK> i didn't know that..
[16:27] <substancev> BluesKaj: dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-desktop ??
[16:27] <BluesKaj> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-desktop
[16:27] <BluesKaj> ?
[16:27] <BluesKaj> dunno for sure
[16:27] <substancev> let me try
[16:28] <substancev> nothing.
[16:28] <BluesKaj> substancev, just try the install cmnd
[16:28] <substancev> let me jump into the gui so i can navigate the internet easier.. links is a pain in the ass.... install command gives me kubuntu-desktop is already installed
[16:29] <substancev> BluesKaj: how about reinstall? this is a fresh copy of kubuntu
[16:29] <BluesKaj> ok then it's broken somehow  remove it and reinstall
[16:29] <SatManUK> brb
[16:29] <substancev> brb
[16:29] <ardchoille> substancev: kubuntu-desktop is just a meta package uninstall and reinstall should be quick provided you don't tell it to remove deps during uninstall
[16:31] <substancev> ardchoille: i ran a apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop and now im running apt-get upgrade
[16:31] <substancev> after that is done i will install kubunt-desktop again..
[16:31] <ardchoille> Why did you run upgrade if this is a new install?
[16:32] <ardchoille> doesn't matter really, it should be quick
[16:32] <BluesKaj> substancev, there
[16:32] <BluesKaj> there's no point in upgrade
[16:32] <ardchoille> That's waht I thought
[16:32] <michael__> Hi I'm new here
[16:33] <ardchoille> hi michael__
[16:33] <ardchoille> !welcome | michael__
[16:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about welcome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:33] <BluesKaj> !hi | michael__
[16:33] <ubotu> michael__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[16:33] <ardchoille> Someone should alias !welcome > !hi
[16:34] <B4S3M> how can i change screen resoultion on gutsy ?
[16:34] <ardchoille> !fixres
[16:34] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[16:34] <substancev> no good... how ever i noticed an error flash...
[16:34] <substancev> but i could read anything but the word failed.
[16:35] <ardchoille> substancev: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log  ?
[16:37] <BluesKaj> substancev, what were you trying when it failed ...upgrade or install kubuntu-desktop?
[16:48] <Gast889> hallo
[16:49] <bazhang> hi!
[16:50] <Gast889> ein freund von mir hat das Problem das er nichts über skype sprechen kann aber er mich hören kann. kann mir bitte jemand sagen was er machen kann damit sich das ändert.
[16:50] <stdin> !de | Gast889
[16:50] <ubotu> Gast889: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:50] <bazhang> !de | Gast889
[16:51] <Gast889> sorry i´ll try the german one
[16:52] <jhutchins> Gast889: Also you need skype support, not kubuntu support.
[16:57] <shawn_> can someone help exlpain how to install java on gusty 64bit when installation breaks through adept?  I am a newby.  thanks
[16:59] <mrukus> howdy
[16:59] <mrukus> i got a porblem with amarok
[16:59] <BluesKaj> shawn_, explain what you mean by "breaks"
[16:59] <TimS> Ive been told to instal QtRuby, what package is this in?
[17:00] <mrukus> i get the error msg that no suitable demux plugin
[17:00] <mrukus> but it was just working the last time i used my computer, its an mp3
[17:00] <SSJ_GZ> TimS: libqt0-ruby1.8 for Qt3
[17:00] <SSJ_GZ> TimS: libqt4-ruby1.8 for Qt4
[17:01] <TimS> Ok, thanks :D
[17:01] <BluesKaj> mrukus,install libxinecodec1-ffmpeg
[17:01] <SSJ_GZ> TimS: np :)
[17:01] <mrukus> run that in the terminal
[17:01] <mrukus> ?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> yes , if you wish ...it's in the pkg managers if you have all the reos uncommented/enabled
[17:02] <BluesKaj> mrukus, the repositories
[17:03] <mrukus> i i get an error msg
[17:12] <fyrmedic> I have a 100gb hd. I have backed up all of my data and am going to do a fresh install of 7.04. I want to partition a /home and /data and / any suggestions on sizes for each?
[17:15] <Dragnslcr> Probably 10 GB or so for /
[17:16] <ardchoille> fyrmedic: How many additional apps are you going to install? How will /data be used?
[17:16] <Dragnslcr> The others depend on what will be on them
[17:17] <fyrmedic> ardchoille; I don't know about the apps, I tend to install and delete stuff frequently so it's not something I can specify. The /data will be used for music and pictures for the most part.
[17:19] <ardchoille> fyrmedic: Ok, I would say 8 to 10 Gb for / , and you can split the rest between /home and /data but it sounds like /data will need to be bigger than /home due to music and pics taking up a lot of space
[17:19] <ardchoille> fyrmedic: Keep in mind that your /swap will need up to 2Gb depending on your ram
[17:19] <fyrmedic> ardchoille; that's kind of where I was going with it.  Thanks
[17:19] <ardchoille> yw
[17:20] <ardchoille> Anything more tha 2Gb for /swap is a waste of space IMHO
[17:21] <ardchoille> fyrmedic: If you are able to add another hd, you might think about adding one, throw it into fstab so it's automounted and keep /data on that one
[17:22] <ardchoille> I have /dev/hda1 for /, /swap/ home and /dev/hdb1 for /data
[17:23] <fyrmedic> ardchoille; I would love to but it's on a laptop
[17:23] <ardchoille> ok
[17:23] <sigma> anyone figured out how to stop ubuntu breaking laptop harddrives over time?
[17:24] <fyrmedic> I thought that was just a rumor
[17:24] <bazhang> not conclusive sigma
[17:25] <fyrmedic> I think that was an article that was posted on slashdot.org. I read it and it didn't seem legit
[17:25] <sigma> nope it really happens, happens on my dell d600 with linux but not windows, however im not sure if its actually damaging the drive
[17:25] <ardchoille> Figures, it's slashdot
[17:25] <sigma> it just accesses the drive every 5 min or so
[17:26] <ardchoille> sigma: Do you have a partition that fills up to quickly?
[17:26] <fyrmedic> sigma; and spins it up then does nothing?
[17:26] <llutz> sigma: syncing won't break your HDD
[17:27] <sigma> ardchoille: the partition of the drive (only one main partition) is pretty empty, only has kubuntu gutsy and a few apps
[17:27] <BlackDiamonds> is there away to get firefox to look like the rest of KDE and use KDE widgets and the like ?
[17:27] <sigma> llutz: well thats good to know, why doesn't windows do it though?
[17:28] <llutz> sigma: because win uses different techniques/filesystems etc.
[17:28] <ardchoille> BlackDiamonds: No, the best you can do is to install a firefox theme. Firefox doesn't use qt or gtk afaik.
[17:28] <llutz> sigma: i havent lost a single HDD in about 10 yrs linux on laptop
[17:28] <sigma> blackdiamonds: go to mozilla.com and check the themes section out, i use a theme called crystalfox modern 1.1
[17:29] <BlackDiamonds> roger
[17:29] <mohsen> hello!
[17:29] <BlackDiamonds> also, what is this Firefox + Ubuntu mix and love I am reading about in Gutsy
[17:29] <sigma> blackdiamonds: however that has nothing to do with making it look like kde
[17:30] <sigma> llutz: well thats great, what laptop do you have? and what hdd is in it?
[17:30] <sigma> does anyone know where i can get a graphical data counter to monitor my gprs internet usage?
[17:31] <llutz> sigma: different ones, ibm thinkpad + toshiba tecra + samsung x20 (now), harddisks were fujitsu and toshiba
[17:32] <llutz> sigma: the only trouble i ever had, was corrupted filesystems caused by defective RAM
[17:32] <sigma> llutz: my dell has a toshiba, anyway doubt its anything to worry about, considering dell themselves are shipping machines pre-installed with ubuntu
[17:33] <sigma> llutz: talking about defective ram i should run memtest before boot, my ram has never been tested since i got the laptop
[17:34] <ardchoille> Speaking as a security-minded Linux user, I would wipe the hd of a box that shipped with Linux. I mean, most people trusted Sony until that rootkit fiasco.
[17:34] <sigma> llutz: do you know of a gprs internet couter for kde?
[17:34] <llutz> sigma: kppp
[17:35] <llutz> sigma: not a counter, but counts transfered bytes
[17:36] <d4ef6s> Hello, everyone.
[17:36] <d4ef6s> please somebody know a aplication for ubuntu or debian for monitorize and save clipboard content in a editable file
[17:36] <d4ef6s> or how i can make klipper save his clipboard history in a txt file
[17:37] <sigma> llutz: thats exactly what i need, but kppp can't connect to the net for me (i have to use wvdial), because it has no "stupidmode" (i use a windows mobile smartphone to connect)
[17:38] <llutz> sigma: ah ok, gkrellm/conky/superkaramba may show you the data transfered via ppp0 but it might be a bit exaggerated
[17:40] <Zombocom> hey
[17:40] <Zombocom> is there a way to edit wine so that the fonts aren't all retarded?
[17:40] <Zombocom> or a better solution, how do I get flash in konqueror or firefox?
[17:40] <Zombocom> kubuntu 7.10
[17:41] <Zombocom> can someone please help me?
[17:41] <emilsedgh> d4ef6s: ~/kde/share/apps/klipper/ there is a file at there
[17:42] <ahlex> healp me please... im use dialup but konqueror dont work only konversation work
[17:42] <sigma> llutz: i have superkaramba but which widget do i install? (i only have crystal monitor installed)
[17:43] <stdin> !flash | Zombocom
[17:43] <ubotu> Zombocom: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[17:43] <llutz> sigma: i don't know. something which shows you network-traffic...
[17:44] <bazhang> ahlex: works for what? irc?
[17:44]  * SatManUK i would like to apologise if i appeared annoyed earlier the problem was not grub it was windows..
[17:44] <ahlex> bazhang: yes... irc
[17:44] <ahlex> bazhang: konqueror dont work
[17:45] <bazhang> ahlex: as far as i know konqueror doesn't have irc capabilities
[17:45] <SatManUK> what during kubuntu install could cause the windows partition to loose boot intergrity?
[17:46] <ksal> hi
[17:47] <ksal> my / partition seems to have some bugs
[17:48] <ksal> on every startup fsck starts to check / for errors and finds them but doesn't fix them.
[17:48] <ksal> how can i fix them manually?
[17:50] <Zombocom> ok so how do I fix fonts in wine then?
[17:54] <anton> Problem: When I try to watch a video in VLC, the audio works fine, but the video doesn't. Just show a bunch of green/purple vertical lines...why?
[17:54] <TimS> I am compiling a C## program, but I get this error configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
 yes but this file is a executable and the word procesor can open it , a try open it whit kwrite but it have  the content histry but and other code words for this is dificult read it
[17:54] <TimS> What package do I need
[17:55] <emilsedgh> d4ef6s: there should be a way to read it, maybe klipeer's dcop functions, lemme see
[17:55] <thomas_newbie__> when I do: find / -name .profile > results 2>&1      don't you need a filename after 2>&1 ???
[17:56] <eliaselietarek> bonjour tout le monde
[17:56] <eliaselietarek> ils y a des personne qui parle francais?
[17:56] <thomas_newbie__> oui
[17:56] <eliaselietarek> ok
[17:57] <Jucato> !fr
[17:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:57] <eliaselietarek> je vien juste d'instaler linux et je ne sait pas trop m'en servir y a t'il quelqun qui pourer m'aider a faire quelque configuration?
[17:57] <eliaselietarek> a merci ubotu
[17:58] <Thug-life> RootMe, hi
[17:58] <thomas_newbie__> can anyone help?
[17:58] <emilsedgh> d4ef6s: dcop klipper klipper getClipboardContents
[17:58] <Jucato> thomas_newbie__: no. basically, you are redirecting the output of the command (which by default goes to standard output, which is 1) to "result", then 2>&1 means you are redirecting the output of standard error (which is 2) to 1 (standard output) which adds it to the file
[17:59] <Jucato> afaik
[18:00] <rysiek|pl> guys, just a short one - where can I change the default filemanager from dolphin to konqueror?
[18:00] <Jucato> !d3lphin | rysiek|pl
[18:00] <ubotu> rysiek|pl: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[18:00] <rysiek|pl> dlphin still needs a bunch of improvements to be functional for me
[18:00] <rysiek|pl> thanks
[18:00] <ksal> on every startup fsck starts to check / for errors and finds them but doesn't fix them.
[18:00] <ksal> how can i fix them manually?
[18:01] <thomas_newbie__> Jucato: ok I see, so the first ">" is the one that takes the standard output, but whats the &1 do?
[18:01] <Jucato> that I forgot :)
[18:01] <thomas_newbie__> Jucato: he
[18:02] <rysiek|pl> thomas_newbie__: I think it has something to do with redirecting output between stdout and stderr
[18:02] <moteyalpha> I saw that 7.10 has auto detection of USB printers but I can't get 7.10 to work on my machine, can I still get printer auto-detect?
[18:03] <rysiek|pl> &1 is stdout, &2 is stderr
 where   shoud put this
[18:03] <emilsedgh> d4ef6s: run it in konsole
[18:03] <Zombocom> !wine
[18:03] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[18:03] <rysiek|pl> thomas_newbie__: man bash, it's there somewhere ;)
[18:03] <thomas_newbie__> :S
[18:03] <Zombocom> damn there's no channel for wine support?
[18:03] <thomas_newbie__> k thx
[18:03] <Jucato> Zombocom: #winehq
[18:03] <rysiek|pl> Zombocom: stop w(h)ining ;)
 thz iwi try
[18:04] <moteyalpha> Is there a URL for installing a printer manually?
[18:04] <Zombocom> lolol
[18:04] <Zombocom> thanks everyone
[18:06] <Zombocom> oh everyone
[18:06] <oggy> hehe
[18:06] <Zombocom> I use flash in ubuntu 7.10 without having had to mess with my system files
[18:07] <Zombocom> it's 64 bit too
[18:09] <moteyalpha> Is foomatic a good start for printer setup?
[18:09] <ardchoille> Zombocom: How did you do it?
[18:09] <ardchoille> !printing
[18:09] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[18:09] <Zombocom> ardchoille: I used wine and firefox for windows
[18:09] <ardchoille> Zombocom: lol
[18:09] <Zombocom> ardchoille: works perfectly
[18:10] <ReK_> can someone help me? my new install now refuses to boot, it hangs after the line 'running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)', yet that file is empty...
[18:10] <Zombocom> ardchoille: the font's all wierd though I need to fix that
[18:10] <moteyalpha> ubotu : Thanks much.
[18:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks much. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:10] <ardchoille> !bot | moteyalpha
[18:10] <ubotu> moteyalpha: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:11] <moteyalpha> Cool, bot!.
[18:11] <Zombocom> !god
[18:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about god - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:11] <Zombocom> that makes me laugh every time
[18:11] <bazhang> anything is even better
[18:12] <d4ef6s> root@equ1:/home/d4ef6s# dcop klipper klipper getClipboardContent
[18:12] <d4ef6s> call failed
[18:12] <Zombocom> ardchoille: I can't pm you back, you have it blocked
[18:12] <Zombocom> ardchoille: oops it's just that I'm an unregistered user
[18:12] <Zombocom> let me do that now
[18:13] <ardchoille> !register Zombocom
[18:13] <ReK_> my gutsy refuses to boot now, it hangs after execing /etc/rc.local, yet the only thing in that file is the default 'exit 0'...
[18:14] <thomas_newbie__> Jucato:  u there
[18:14] <d4ef6s> this dont work , there isn a prgram for simle capture the clipboard content in a txt file automatically
[18:14] <Jucato> thomas_newbie__: barely
[18:14] <thomas_newbie__> Jucato: I don't get this lol, why does
[18:14] <Aleksander-pl> Hello. Is "Fast User Switcher" from Ubuntu avaliable for KDE? what's it's name?
[18:14] <thomas_newbie__> ls text a >text 2>&1
[18:14] <thomas_newbie__> give me an error, and ls text > text 2>&1 doesn't?
[18:15] <Jucato> thomas_newbie__: what's the error? I'm guessing it has something to do with "ls text a"
[18:15] <_Shade_> anyone's using kde4 here?
[18:15] <thomas_newbie__> gives me
[18:15] <thomas_newbie__> ls: a: No such file or directory
[18:15] <thomas_newbie__> text
[18:15] <Jucato> Aleksander-pl: no exactly like Ubuntu's, but K Menu -> Switch User (been ther ein KDE for years)
[18:16] <Jucato> thomas_newbie__: the problem is with the command "ls text a"... why is there an "a" there?
[18:16] <moteyalpha> Ok then thanks to ardchoille for waking the bot for me.
[18:16] <Aleksander-pl> Jucato: I know it, but I want to have it in the panel :)
[18:16] <ardchoille> :)
[18:17] <thomas_newbie__> Jucato: i don't know its just an example i'm reading
[18:17] <ReK_> my gutsy refuses to boot now, it hangs after execing /etc/rc.local, yet the only thing in that file is the default 'exit 0'...
[18:18] <Jucato> thomas_newbie__: try using ls on files or folders that exist :)
[18:19] <thomas_newbie__> Jucato: yes but when I do # ls text a >text 2>&1
[18:19] <thomas_newbie__> i mean
[18:20] <thomas_newbie__> # ls text >text 2>&1
[18:20] <thomas_newbie__> it doesn't give me errors
[18:20] <thomas_newbie__> when I do cat text
[18:22] <Jucato> thomas_newbie__: I'm guessing that a file named "text" exists, but a file named "a" doesn't
[18:22] <thomas_newbie__> Jucato: try it  :D........when i do: # ls text a >text 2>&1.....file text exists....with an error in cat text....when I do: # ls text >text 2>&1.....file text exists but there is no error
[18:22] <Jucato> I already did
[18:22] <Jucato> if text exists but a doesn't, "ls text a" will give you an error about a, but will still print out "text"
[18:23] <ardchoille> thomas_newbie__: Are you escaping the spaces?
[18:23] <ardchoille> ls text\ a
[18:23] <Jucato> (depends if the file name is "text a")
[18:23] <thomas_newbie__> ardchoille: ?
[18:23] <ReK_> Can someone help me with my gutsy, it isnt booting anymore, it simply stops the boot process after running /etc/rc.local, yet all that file contains is the default 'exit 0'....
[18:24] <ardchoille> ls text a  <-- looks like you're listing the file "text a" but cat text will throw an error. cat text\ a should succeed
[18:24] <Jucato> ardchoille: no, the file "text" exists, but "a" doesn't.
[18:24] <ardchoille> Ah, right
[18:25] <Jucato> if the file name where "text a", it would complain for both "text" and "a"
[18:25] <ardchoille> The spaces always throw me
[18:25] <Jucato> s/where/were/
[18:25] <ardchoille> Right
[18:29] <Ax-Ax> Ctrl-Alt-F1 shows a black screen only, but commands work. But I can't read the output :(
[18:30] <ksal> There are differences between boot sector and its backup.
[18:30] <ksal> i have such message from dosfsck when i'm booting my system
[18:30] <ksal> how to fix it?
[18:31] <beefjerky> need help with knetwork manager!  I had some problems, had to reinstall, and now all i see when i click on it is "Manual Configuration"... (see here: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6tpn1mr&s=1) What do I do?
[18:34] <munk_> whenever i try to boot and it gets at the disk check i get [ #####] Buffer I/O error on device hda3 logical block ### can someone please help me?
[18:34] <Ax-Ax> Ctrl-Alt-F1 shows a black screen only, but commands work. But I can't read the output. Any fix?
[18:35] <gabriel_> hola
[18:42] <Zombocom> wow Ax-Ax I hit ctrl-Alt-F1 and almost freaked out
[18:43] <Vincent_k> hello all, I.m setting up an pxe server and I want dhcpd to work on 1 out of two nic's. Where do I tell dhcpd witch nic to use?
[18:43] <Ax-Ax> Zombocom, ??
[18:44] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: That is a known bug wrt installing video drivers via the restricted driver manager
[18:44] <Zombocom> Ax-Ax: I forgot that the normal session was f7 for a second, so I could still hear everything, but i was trying to find a way back
[18:44] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille: can it be fixed? :(
[18:45] <delexx> hi
[18:45] <Ax-Ax> Zombocom: oh
[18:45] <Zombocom> Ax-Ax: it was very entertaining
[18:45] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: I wasn't able to fix mine, I just reinstalled and then installed the video drivers via the command line
[18:45] <Ax-Ax> :I
[18:46] <Zombocom> ardchoille you
[18:46] <Zombocom> are a solid linux user huh
[18:46] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille: reinstall kubuntu?
[18:46] <ardchoille> Zombocom: Not the most knowledgable, but I have been using Linux since 2001 as my sole OS
[18:46] <sharkk> hi, i'm using kopete-0.12.7 and when i try to login with a msn account i get this http://rafb.net/p/QstzNF52.html
[18:46] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: Hold on.. I'm looking for the bug so you can read it
[18:47] <sharkk> on #kopete they tell me that kubuntu men added a patch which broke something in msn...
[18:47] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/129910
[18:48] <ardchoille> sharkk: That bug has been fixed: sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:48] <sharkk> thanks
[18:48] <delexx> deutsche hier?
[18:48] <ardchoille> !de | delexx
[18:48] <ubotu> delexx: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:49] <TimS>  I am building a C## program, but I get this error configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[18:49] <TimS> What packages do I need
[18:49] <gabriel_> holaaaaa
[18:49] <gabriel_> alguien en castellano
[18:49] <ardchoille> !es | gabriel_
[18:49] <ubotu> gabriel_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[18:52] <khaije1> i can't decide between fireant, and miro
[18:52] <khaije1> any advice for me?
[18:53] <ardchoille> khaije1: I would suggest miro since it's in the repos and fireant isn't
[18:54] <khaije1> ardchoille: hmm ya i just noticed that, have you been happy w/ miro ?
[18:56] <ardchoille> khaije1: I've never used it, but I have noticed over the years that installing apps only from the official repos lessens the chance of problems with the system.
[18:57] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille: I don't find anything useful
[18:57] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: Neither did I :(
[18:58] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: You could try uninstall/purge the video drivers you installed and then install them from cli
[18:58] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: Which video card do you have?
[18:58] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille: nVidia Riva TNT (Legacy drivers)
[18:59] <Ax-Ax> real old
[18:59] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: Yeah
[18:59] <bigzen> who is french ?
[18:59] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: Did yo happen to notice which driver (current, new, legacy) the manager installed for you?
[18:59] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: What I found was that the restricted driver manager installed the wrong driver for my card.
[19:00] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille: I think it was legacy
[19:00] <ardchoille> ok
[19:00] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille: it works with opengl and such
[19:00] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: Right, but if you have a severe problem and need to do cli work in tty1, yo're out of luck
[19:01] <Ax-Ax> :(
[19:02] <khaije1> ardchoille: thats true, it's just too bad there isn't a more kde competitor. Kitty is the closest thing and is disorganized and anemic, ah well
[19:03] <ardchoille> khaije1: Are you just wanting an rss reader?
[19:03] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille: are you sure that it's the drivers fault?
[19:03] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: I don't know for sure, but I did notice that installing the driver from cli (not using the restricted driver manager) fixed the problem.
[19:04] <khaije1> ardchoille: no, really looking for something to combine miro and amarok, that would be pure perfection
[19:04] <somekool> hello
[19:04] <ardchoille> khaije1: Ah, yeah
[19:04] <somekool> how's kubuntu users feeling today?
[19:05] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille: did you just uninstall and then cli install it?
[19:05] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: Yes.
[19:06] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: Do you have a vga mode in your kernel line? (something like vga=791)
[19:06] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille: do you think envy works?
[19:06] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille: don't know
[19:06] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: 3rd party scripts will do more harm than good
[19:06] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: If you don't know, then you likely don't have vga mode, you'd have had to put it there manually.
[19:07] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille: hm, how do I know which vga mode?
[19:08] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: vga mode4s don't work currently
[19:08] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille: why should i put it in then? :S
[19:08] <ardchoille> I was going to have you try removing it if you had one and seeing if that helped, it seemed to help others in that bug report
[19:09] <Daemon> hi
[19:09] <ardchoille> hi Daemon
[19:09] <Daemon> where can I get winex
[19:09] <Daemon> or some app for games
[19:09] <Daemon> in linux
[19:11] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille, can I edit it whitout rebooting?
[19:11] <somekool> I am looking for a hotkey to change keyboard layout in KDE
[19:12] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: Edit what?
[19:13] <emilsedgh> somekool: go to system settings
[19:13] <emilsedgh> somekool: (the default key is alt+ctrl+k)
[19:13] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille, the kernel line you mentioned
[19:13] <emilsedgh> somekool: systemSettings->Keyboard & Mouse->Keyboard Shortcuts
[19:13] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: You don't have a vga mode, so there's nothing to remove
[19:13] <emilsedgh> somekool: the last item is 'Switch To Next Keyboard Layout'
[19:14] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille, ok
[19:17] <PeterPan_> can any one recomend an antivirus and firewall that is goog but most low on system resources ?
[19:17] <somekool> emilsedgh: thanks
[19:18] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: for kubuntu?
[19:18] <PeterPan_> rysiek|pl:  yes
[19:18] <emilsedgh> np thomax__
[19:18] <emilsedgh> PeterPan_: if you want it for desktop, you really dont need one
[19:18] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: firewall: iptables, already in the kernel
[19:18] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: antyvirous - no need for one
[19:18] <rysiek|pl> *antivirous
[19:18] <emilsedgh> !virus | PeterPan_
[19:18] <ubotu> PeterPan_: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[19:19] <PeterPan_> emilsedgh:  rysiek|pl why not ?
[19:19] <somekool> i did not have kubuntu CD so I install Ubuntu and I`ve done apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, does it turn out to be the same? my japanese keyboard was working fine in ubuntu but not in kde
[19:19] <sweettooth> hi there, forgive me if I am asking a stupid question in here, what is the diff. between vmware server and vmware workstation? what I am interested is, to run my xp partition in kubuntu
[19:19] <somekool> french/english is working fine now
[19:19] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: as ubotu told you - read this: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[19:19] <PeterPan_> emilsedgh:  ok. but i have wine installed. if i get a windows virus and clicked it. wine will run it and it can cause damage
[19:20] <emilsedgh> PeterPan_: because you dont need want, just dont waste your resources!
[19:20] <somekool> sweettooth: try VirtualBox or qEmu
[19:20] <emilsedgh> PeterPan_: i dont think that they affect your system, dont worry! just use your GNU/Linux :)
[19:21] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: virous run under wine can't affect your system, unless you really b0rked your install
[19:21] <sweettooth> somekool, thx. I have heard of qumu, and also the pros and cons. However i am interested to try vmware, but don't know which one i need
[19:21] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: 1. wine is a compatibility layer written from scratch; virouses exploit ERRORS in implementations of windows system services
[19:22] <ToddEDM> hey guys, im trying to install Kubuntu, but im having problems.... i load the live CD and it comes up, but there is no "instal to HD" icon on the desktop, i can open the "start menu"thingie, but nothing shows up in it... can someone help me maybe?
[19:22] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: likelihood that wine developers made exact same mistakes that M$ did is almost none
[19:22] <somekool> rysiek|pl: theorically if you run wine as root, could do some damage, maybe only to the wine system. but as long as you dont use root or sudo for wine, no problem with windows virus
[19:22] <somekool> I used to do collection of virus and I never had a problem
[19:22] <rysiek|pl> somekool: as I wrote above, it is nearly impossible to run a windows virous under wine in the first place
[19:23] <kubuntu> hola a todos mando saludos desde mexico df
[19:23] <rysiek|pl> somekool: as that would require wine devs to make exactly same errors as M$
[19:23] <somekool> recent viruses are trojan for MSOffice/VBA anyway... so unless you run powerpoint+word+outlook in wine, its no big deal. IMHO
[19:23] <ToddEDM> can someone help me get this Kubunt installed
[19:23] <rysiek|pl> kubuntu: try #kubuntu-es
[19:23] <PeterPan_> rysiek|pl:  emilsedgh but if i have write rights to a partition and wine runs a virus. cant it delete all in that partition?
[19:23] <kubuntu> gracias
[19:23] <rysiek|pl> kubuntu: bitte ;)
[19:24] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: as I wrote before, that would need wine devs to make exactly the same errors as M$
[19:24] <somekool> rysiek|pl: makes sense. the would need to implement the virus API ;)
[19:24] <ToddEDM> is anyone seeing this text?
[19:24] <rysiek|pl> somekool: I think they're at it at M$ ;)
[19:24] <emilsedgh> PeterPan_: wine's Partitions are not 'real' partitions, they are just dirctories in Linux filesystems, i think you will find them in ~/.wine
[19:24] <rysiek|pl> ToddEDM: I'm not, why?
[19:24] <ToddEDM> lol rysiek|pl
[19:25] <ToddEDM> i need help getting kubuntu installed
[19:25] <somekool> rysiek|pl: I thought it was you asking question, but I must have confused
[19:25] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: even if a windows virous runs under wine, it will have exactly same permissions as you, the kubuntu user
[19:25] <ToddEDM> the live CD runs really slow, and when i press the "start menu" nothing comes up in it
[19:25] <somekool> ToddEDM: defrag your windows twice and choose your mother language and follow EASY instruction.
[19:25] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: and that means that - unless you heavily modified your system - it can't actually damage the system
[19:26] <ToddEDM> somekool: the install wont start
[19:26] <PeterPan_> rysiek|pl:  if i have right permissions to some folders. it can destroy them.....     so its dangeouros
[19:26] <PeterPan_> ?
[19:26] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: worst case scenario in this case is: you might losse your files. the system will be fine.
[19:26] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: but as I said, that is *extremely* unlikely
[19:26] <newguyss> hi, I need to browse the computer as sudo
[19:27] <PeterPan_> rysiek|pl:  my files are more important from my system
[19:27] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: besides, how could you get the virii in the first place? you are not able to use IE under linux, you know ;)
[19:27] <newguyss> because the www-data created many many files and its not letting me control them, so I need to control them some how
[19:27] <newguyss> anyidea?
[19:27] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: than limit what such a malware can reach from within wine - just change the paths wine has access to
[19:27] <PeterPan_> rysiek|pl:  yes. but i have many bad experiences. viri from cds. mails . friends. etc
[19:27] <somekool> wait Canada keyboard in KDE and Gnome is not same ....
[19:27] <Ax-Ax> newguyss: Alt-F2, then gksu konqueror (or something)
[19:28] <somekool> ToddEDM: why É
[19:28] <rysiek|pl> newguyss: kdesu konqueror
[19:28] <somekool> why ?
[19:28] <rysiek|pl> newguyss: but that is EXTREMELY dangerous
[19:28] <ToddEDM> somekool:  wtf you talking about?
[19:28] <newguyss> well guys I will just get the files and then get out
[19:28] <jpatrick> !language | ToddEDM
[19:28] <ubotu> ToddEDM: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:28] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: you are safe as far as mails go - just don't use outlook ;)
[19:28] <emilsedgh> somekool: i think thats not a kde/gnome related thing, that should be in X i think...
[19:28] <somekool> ToddEDM: I am asking question and answering same time . that`s why youre confused.
[19:29] <ToddEDM> what question are you asking?
[19:29] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: then, just change the drives/paths for wine so that your really important files are noit accessible for Windows executables
[19:29] <somekool> I have keyboard problem in KDE and you cannot install kubuntu
[19:29] <BluesKaj> somekool, you've chosen the canada french KB , is why
[19:29] <PeterPan_> rysiek|pl: cds?
[19:29] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: I run Linux on 20+ systems for years now, and this I can tell you: AV software is a HUGE overkill
[19:30] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: are you reading what I am writing?
[19:30] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: [20:29] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: then, just change the drives/paths for wine so that your really important files are noit accessible for Windows executables
[19:30] <Ax-Ax> how can it be EXTREMLY dangerous to root-browse the system?
[19:30] <rysiek|pl> Ax-Ax: because you are just a click away from deleting important files
[19:30] <PeterPan_> rysiek|pl:  how to do that. how to changs paths. what do you mean.
[19:30] <rysiek|pl> Ax-Ax: it's easier to make serious mistakes
[19:30] <ToddEDM> hey guys if you wont help me install kubuntu, heres another question... i got some guyon my network, is there a way to send a message to him, in the form of a popup or something?
[19:30] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: KMenu -> System Settings -> Advanced -> Wine
[19:30] <Ax-Ax> rysiek|pl, just like turning of the screen? :P
[19:31] <somekool> BluesKaj: I am french but I use US all the time for programming and everything, plus I need japanese. I install scim-anthy, worked in gnome. then I did install kubuntu-desktop with apt-get and japanese keyboard does not load, skim menu is empty. and Canadian keyboard in KDE and Gnome is not same.
[19:31] <rysiek|pl> Ax-Ax: just like "ops I didn't want to Shift+Del that /etc/modules.d dir..."
[19:32] <Ax-Ax> rysiek|pl, everyone isn't clumsy
[19:32] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: besides, pleae _do_ read the article: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[19:32] <rysiek|pl> Ax-Ax: believe me, I've seen much in that dept
[19:32] <Ax-Ax> rysiek|pl, ok then
[19:32] <rysiek|pl> Ax-Ax: browsing as root is just something you should *not* do, as long as there are alternatives
[19:32] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: People make mistakes. Making a mistake in /boot/grub as user does nothing. But removing the wrong file there as root can keep your system from booting
[19:33] <rysiek|pl> Ax-Ax: like: sudo chown my_user some_dir/*
[19:33] <PeterPan_> rysiek|pl:  do you mean that i can restrict wine to open windows files in some areas and disable it to open any windows files outside that area ?
[19:33] <velho> hello!
[19:33] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: exactly
[19:33] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: wine apps will *only* have access to files and folders configured as "drives" in wine config
[19:34] <velho> hello, this is my fist time in this program and in this chatroom. can somebody help me?
[19:34] <rysiek|pl> velho: what's the problem? just ask
[19:34] <ardchoille> velho: Help with what?
[19:34] <sweettooth> can anyone tell me the difference between vmware workstation and vmware sever?
[19:34] <velho> i'm not english
[19:35] <rysiek|pl> velho: #kubuntu-pt
[19:35] <ardchoille> velho: That's ok, I'm Scottish and they let me in :)
[19:35] <velho> an i would lika to join a portuguese chatroom. how I do that?
[19:35] <rysiek|pl> oops
[19:35] <ardchoille> !br
[19:35] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[19:35] <velho> lolo
[19:35] <rysiek|pl> velho: sorry, wrong channel ;)
[19:35] <somekool> !fr
[19:35] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:35] <somekool> !ja
[19:35] <ubotu> 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[19:35] <velho> #ubuntu-pt
[19:35] <rysiek|pl> aye
[19:35] <somekool> AWESOME !!!!!!!
[19:35] <rysiek|pl> velho: /join #ubuntu-pt
[19:35] <JackWinter> hiya, just out of curiosity i installed the ubuntu-desktop on my laptop.  now i wanted to remove it.  i went to Adept and removed ubuntu-desktop, but i still have all the programs installed in k menu, and i can chose gnome at login?  iare there instructions somewhere for removing it completely?
[19:36] <velho> how can i join a chanel? sorry, i'm really noob in here...
[19:36] <somekool> JackWinter: you want to choose gnome at login or you want to remove gnome ??
[19:36] <sub[t]rnl> !purekde
[19:36] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[19:36] <rysiek|pl> velho: /join #ubuntu-pt
[19:36] <somekool> NICE !!!
[19:36] <somekool> sub[t]rnl: thanks
[19:36] <somekool> the help for Kubuntu is so great
[19:36] <rysiek|pl> velho: type "/join #ubuntu-pt" (without the quotes"
[19:37] <JackWinter> i'd like to return to a plain kubuntu installation
[19:37] <somekool> thank you all
[19:37] <PeterPan_> rysiek|pl: ok
[19:37] <somekool> JackWinter: watch what sub[t]rnl said... PureKDE on ubuntu help site
[19:37] <JackWinter> thanks, purkde it is ;-)
[19:37] <velho> thankx :D:D:D:D
[19:37] <ardchoille> JackWinter: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package, it's empty and only serves to "pull in" other packages.
[19:37] <ardchoille> !purekde | JackWinter
[19:37] <ubotu> JackWinter: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[19:38] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: and just as a footnote, I use Linux for 4+ years now, my sisters sit on it for ~2 years, no AV installed, all is ok. even when using wine
[19:38] <PeterPan_> rysiek|pl:  if   / is added in drives.   that will mean it has access to all my harddisk... ?
[19:38] <ardchoille> PeterPan_: But, keep in mind that wine *can* run Windows viruses/trojans/worms just as well as Windows can
[19:39] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: yes; just remove it
[19:39] <root_> hi
[19:39] <rysiek|pl> ardchoille: not quite
[19:39] <ardchoille> rysiek|pl: There have been articles on it, yes, quite :)
[19:39] <SatManUK> im back - windows deleted - fresh install.
[19:39] <rysiek|pl> ardchoille: as stated before (3 times ;) ) most virii and trojans base their operations on bugs in windows programs
[19:40] <Daemon> can anybody say program for games in linux??
[19:40] <SatManUK> why is their a version upgrade from 7.1 to 7.1 :)
[19:40] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: known bug
[19:40] <SatManUK> do i need to do this upgrade or not?
[19:40] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: nay
[19:40] <PeterPan_> rysiek|pl:  oh ok. any by that. it will not auto run and windoes app if i just double click it by mistake. ? but it will auto run only that are inside  the drives added. ?
[19:40] <rysiek|pl> ardchoille: and the possibility that wine devs made exactly the same errors, well, is not likely ;)
[19:41] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: yup
[19:41] <PeterPan_> rysiek|pl:  THANKS. GREAT HELP
[19:41] <PeterPan_> rysiek|pl:
[19:41] <SatManUK> whats the command to release the package manager
[19:41] <Tm_T> root_: erm, rooted?
[19:41] <root_> hey guyz
[19:41] <SatManUK> cancelling that upgrade locked out pkg
[19:41] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: no prob; somebody once told me all this, so I just sort of give back to community ;)
[19:41] <JackWinter> can anyone confirm.  i didn't spend much time with it, but it seems like the gnome desktop didn't quite work on my system.  there were icons missing, windows didn't show all controls etc..?
[19:41] <root_> is that just for linux ubuntu support or its public chat
[19:42] <rysiek|pl> root_: neither
[19:42] <rysiek|pl> root_: linux kubuntu support, it is
[19:42] <Tm_T> root_: this is for Kubuntu support
[19:42] <rysiek|pl> ;)
[19:42] <root_> yep
[19:42] <nadie_> hi
[19:42] <SatManUK> rysiek|pl:  how do i restart package manager now - upgrade manager locked it out
[19:42] <nadie> hi
[19:42] <root_> hi nadie
[19:42] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: huh? what do you mean by "locked it out"
[19:43] <PeterPan_> btw, is there something better that wine ? crossover .. i heard. is it?
[19:43] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: CrossOver, Cedega, etc, are all based on wine
[19:43] <root_> is there arelease of dc++ fo kununtu
[19:43] <SatManUK> another process is using the database when its not
[19:43] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: but have nice tested configs for few stubborn apps
[19:44] <rysiek|pl> PeterPan_: and some nice GUIs
[19:44] <SatManUK> i want to do a full update
[19:44] <nadie> coul u tell me about a good irc client for kubuntu please? i've tested irssi and it's cool but a little fuzzy
[19:44] <antonio__> hello
[19:44] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: open konsole and: ps aux | grep -e 'apt|adept'
[19:44] <rysiek|pl> nadie: konversation
[19:44] <Tm_T> root_: why you are as root?
[19:44] <rysiek|pl> nadie: it's pre-installed with kubuntu
[19:45] <nadie> thanx
[19:45] <rysiek|pl> no prob
[19:45] <khaije1> i just wanna say miro player is really nice (even on kde) i'm trying it again after a year break
[19:45] <nadie> it's a pitty cos i love to use the console
[19:45] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: did you get any output?
[19:45] <PeterPan_> rysiek|pl:  which is better. most popular
[19:45] <root_> cuz i like dominate every thing :D
[19:45] <SatManUK> yes
[19:45] <SatManUK> pid 7164
[19:46] <SatManUK> when i try and kill it - itsays no such pid
[19:46] <rysiek|pl> nadie: in that case just search wikipedia for IRC and there you'll find some console chat clients
[19:46] <Tm_T> root_: you should NOT IRC as root, nor use X as root
[19:46] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: that pid is the grep's pid, don't worry about it
[19:46] <root_> why
[19:46] <seezer> nadie: i'd recommend irssi
[19:46] <SatManUK> ok
[19:46] <rysiek|pl> root_: ...because somebody can dominate you
[19:46] <root_> iam noob in linux in genreal
[19:47] <root_> lol
[19:47] <Tm_T> root_: it's security risk
[19:47] <SatManUK> stuart    7201  0.0  0.1   2976   756 pts/1    R+   23:46   0:00 grep -e apt|adept
[19:47] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: nothing besides this single process?
[19:47] <emilsedgh> Root for IRC? thats like using a plane to going around!
[19:47] <SatManUK> thats it
[19:47] <SatManUK> one line
[19:47] <root_> somebody like who
[19:47] <rysiek|pl> hmmm
[19:47] <rysiek|pl> root_: like me for example
[19:47] <Tm_T> root_: it's security risk, don't make me repeat
[19:47] <rysiek|pl> root_: I am not a linux noob, you know
[19:47] <SatManUK> rysiek|pl: can't i just restart package manager?
[19:47] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: lemme think
[19:47] <root_> i didnt said u r noob
[19:48] <root_> i said iam noob
[19:48] <Tm_T> root_: rule of thumb, if you don't need to be as root, don't be as root
[19:48] <rysiek|pl> root_: yeah. And I mean: some non-noobs are telling you that it's a security risk
[19:48] <Tm_T> root_: it's for your own safety
[19:48] <root_> okay
[19:48] <rysiek|pl> root_: chances are they know better :)
[19:48] <MeglaW_> hi, installed 7.10 on a g4 powerpc with kubuntu-7.10-alternate-powerpc.iso, from cd.
[19:49] <somekool> root_: convince yourself you dont know root exist. sometimes ubuntu will ask you for passwords
[19:49] <MeglaW_> it installed ok, yaboot starts booting something
[19:49] <MeglaW_> and then nothing
[19:49] <root_> yeah always
[19:49] <root_> but how root is asecurity risk for me
[19:49] <root_> u can hack my system easily while iam in root
[19:50] <moteyalpha> root_ rootkit
[19:50] <rysiek|pl> root_: if any of the programs you are running has a security flaw
[19:50] <MeglaW_> anyone have any idea on how to proceed?
[19:50] <Tm_T> MeglaW_: does #ubuntu-ppc help?
[19:50] <rysiek|pl> root_: than if you are running them as a normal user, not much can be damaged
[19:50] <root_> yep it not askin for pass cuz iam in root
[19:50] <SatManUK> i can't purge kopete either because of package manager..
[19:50] <rysiek|pl> root_: but when you run them as root, and somebody uses the flaw - he or she automagically gains root provs
[19:50] <SatManUK> i need to reinstall it to clear the sigterm issue
[19:50] <Tm_T> root_: and it won't ask password from me neither now
[19:51] <root_> so thats the risk that root confirm any thing
[19:51] <MeglaW_> Tm_T: scence its kubunto...
[19:51] <somekool> root_: try google ... "why not to use root"
[19:51] <somekool> easy as a pie
[19:51] <Tm_T> MeglaW_: Ubuntu is Kubuntu is Ubuntu
[19:51] <ardchoille> root_: Someone who wants to hack you knows you have a root account and can sit there all month brute-forcing root, but you can't do that if the root account is locked. And you can't brute-force your user accounts without knowing the user names. This is why using sudo is, IMHO, more secure.
[19:51] <rysiek|pl> root_: root has access to everything, that's the whole problem
[19:51] <root_> yeah
[19:51] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: hmmm... I don't l;ike what I am going to say, but... could you reboot your machine?
[19:51] <somekool> root can delete your porn
[19:51] <SatManUK> ok.. brb yall
[19:52] <root_> advanced users can use root
[19:52] <root_> hahahha i dont have porn
[19:52] <somekool> root_: no, advance users never use root except for install
[19:52] <Tm_T> somekool: .
[19:52] <rysiek|pl> root_: advanced users KNOW that they should NOT use root account on a daily basis
[19:52] <root_> yeah
[19:52] <root_> thanks for the advice guyz
[19:52] <Tm_T> root_: you know now, you have been informed, rest is up to you
[19:52] <MeglaW_> so, what to do, cant find anything helpfull in yaboot
[19:53] <Tm_T> MeglaW_: have you asked from #ubuntu-ppc ?
[19:53] <MeglaW_> yeah
[19:53] <MeglaW_> ideling
[19:53] <Tm_T> okie
[19:53] <somekool> root_: most people actually quit using su in favor for sudo
[19:53]  * rysiek|pl did
[19:53] <Tm_T> MeglaW_: you have much better chance there
[19:53] <somekool> KDE Run dialog (alt-f2) has root checkbox
[19:54] <root_> sudo use in normal user to confirm root quists is that right ??
[19:54] <Tm_T> somekool: which uses sudo?
[19:54] <somekool> actually run as different user, so you can run kopete under your account and under your girlfriend account
[19:55] <somekool> Tm_T: kdesu internally, but it turns out to be the same yes.
[19:55] <Tm_T> I know
[19:55] <SatManUK> lets try again with adaptec upgrade
[19:56] <SatManUK> well it loaded this time - to guess you were right mate..
[19:56] <DexterF> hi
[19:56] <DexterF> !stream
[19:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stream - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:56] <SatManUK> reboot fixed it.. - would a log out and log in have fixed it or not?
[19:56] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: yeah, there must have been some process taht was using the db
[19:57] <DexterF> meh. someone know how save a copy of a mms stream to disk?
[19:57] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: nope, I don't think so
[19:57] <somekool> root_: $ man sudoers    && sudo kwrite /etc/sudoers
[19:57] <SatManUK> mplayer i think can grab
[19:57] <MLG_GooseMann> Does anybody know why when I'm using my laptop's sound control it only goes from 0% to 11%?
[19:57] <SatManUK> i seen it somewhere
[19:57] <SatManUK> can't remember the switches
[19:57] <MLG_GooseMann> The volume doesn't actually change.
[19:57] <Phlogi> I can't connect to wpa2 secured wlan with network manager, it just says can't connect. What should I do? here is the information about the network http://pastebin.ca/797131
[19:57] <SatManUK> but mplayer to a wav..
[19:57] <SatManUK> but the wav would be huge,,
[19:57] <SatManUK> huge
[19:57] <kub^> !compiz-fusion
[19:58] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: bu then lame or oggenc and you have a nice mp3 or ogg
[19:58] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[19:58] <MLG_GooseMann> Does anybody know why when I'm using my laptop's sound control it only goes from 0% to 11%?
[19:58] <Daemon> i tryed to start some games in wine but it just chenged resolution and i cant do anything any help??
[19:59] <MLG_GooseMann> The volume doesn't change, it's a Toshiba Satellite A135-S4527.
[19:59] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille, after removed the drivers with restricted manager, did the TTYs work?
[19:59] <SatManUK> yes but how much hd you loose during the wav in the first place..
[19:59] <rysiek|pl> Daemon: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[19:59] <rysiek|pl> Daemon: this will restart your XServer
[19:59] <SatManUK> why is adaptec still not reading my dns server..
[19:59] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: ADEPT, not adaptec ;)
[19:59] <SatManUK> whatever..
[20:00] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: what do you have in /etc/resolv.conf
[20:00] <SatManUK> either way its not reading my dns servr
[20:00] <rysiek|pl> Phlogi: Do you have the Pre-Shared Key?
[20:00] <somekool> my ubuntu does not wake up from sleep or hibernate. while it were on gentoo
[20:01] <SatManUK> generated by network manager do not edit - 192.168.1.1
[20:01]  * somekool is not starting a distrib war, its just to say...
[20:01] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: humm
[20:01] <SatManUK> everything else but adapt works
[20:01] <MLG_GooseMann> Does anybody know why when I'm using my laptop's sound control it only goes from 0% to 11%?
[20:01] <SatManUK> i just cheated last time and edited the server file with the ip address instead..
[20:01] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: so ping google.com works?
[20:01] <SatManUK> yup
[20:01] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: what server file?
[20:01] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: /etc/apt/sources.list?
[20:02] <Phlogi> rysiek|pl: what do you mean? I have the password of course yes
[20:03] <bamsamba> is it possible to install the new kde release with the fancy eyecandy err...whats-its-name from feisty fawn?
[20:03] <rysiek|pl> Phlogi: hmmm, in that case you probably need to use wpa_supplicant, but I can't help you with that :/
[20:03] <Tm_T> bamsamba: no if you have to ask
[20:03] <rysiek|pl> bamsamba: compiz-fusion?
[20:03] <SatManUK> sources.list in /etc/apt
[20:03] <rysiek|pl> bamsamba: you want compiz-fusion on feisty?
[20:04] <bamsamba> no, the kde release based on qt4.
[20:04] <mitch_> Hi all, how do I remove the shortcut overlay icon from a shortcut?
[20:04] <Daemon> rysiek|pl oh i need help for starting game not for restartng:D
[20:04] <Tm_T> root_: you're still as root
[20:04] <SatManUK> its unable to resolve the ip from the server name in sources.list
[20:04] <bamsamba> damn it. lemme google.
[20:04] <MLG_GooseMann> Does anybody know why when I'm using my laptop's sound control it only goes from 0% to 11%?
[20:04] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: hmmm... what's the server in sources.list?
[20:04] <SatManUK> and since i started using kubuntu about three weeks ago - never has
[20:04] <SatManUK> doesn't matter its the same for all..
[20:05] <moonflux> moin
[20:05] <bamsamba> kde 4.0?
[20:05] <rysiek|pl> MLG_GooseMann: probably not. google: "ubuntu your_laptop_manufacturer your_laptop_model sound"
[20:05] <ardchoille> Tm_T: When he is forced to re-install his OS, or someone steals his personal info, he'll learn
[20:05] <Daemon> MLG_GooseMann tryied to do it manually?? not with fn+ something
[20:05] <MLG_GooseMann> Okay.
[20:05] <MLG_GooseMann> It works in KMix.
[20:05] <jermain> hi all
[20:05] <moonflux> any kubuntu-devs/-maintainers around?
[20:05] <yodokalk> hi
[20:05] <Tm_T> moonflux: always some of them
[20:05] <rysiek|pl> Daemon: thought you didn't know how to restore your resolution
[20:06] <rysiek|pl> !kde4
[20:06] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[20:06] <jermain> adept keeps teling me that something is allready running (like another instancee of adept or an apt get command)
[20:06] <moonflux> well, meybe one of them has a minute and can have a look at bug 118723
[20:06] <Daemon> rysiek|pl oh noooo i know how to do that :D
[20:06] <rysiek|pl> !kde4 | bamsamba
[20:06] <root_> ye iam still as root
[20:06] <ubotu> bamsamba: please see above
[20:06] <jermain> but i cant find any other program that should be doing that
[20:06] <root_> i will convert right now
[20:06] <jermain> :(
[20:06] <Daemon> rysiek|pl i wanna to know how to start any game
[20:06] <Tm_T> rysiek|pl: meh
[20:06] <jermain> now i cant install / update
[20:07] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: what's the server in your sources.list? did you try to ping it?
[20:07] <rysiek|pl> jermain: try rebooting
[20:07] <dthacker> !fixadept
[20:07] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:07] <rysiek|pl> Tm_T: huh?
[20:07] <BluesKaj> jermain , try this in the terminal :sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[20:07] <jermain> rysiekjpl: i did, even that didnt help
[20:07] <jermain> k
[20:07] <SatManUK> ubuntu.eriders.com
[20:07] <SatManUK> ubuntu.eriders.ge
[20:07] <SatManUK> its way the fastest..
[20:08] <Tm_T> erm
[20:08] <sven_> !apt-fix
[20:08] <sven_> !aptfix
[20:08] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:08] <SatManUK> inside Tbilisi, I can pull 8mb / outside of Tbilisi i pull 128k...
[20:08] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: did you try to ping'em?
[20:08] <SatManUK> so much for working away..
[20:08] <SatManUK> yeah it works
[20:08] <SatManUK> i used it loads..
[20:08] <Tm_T> rysiek|pl: you don't seem to follow what I say
[20:08] <jermain> crap i gtg
[20:08] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: NOW. does it work NOW :)
[20:08] <jermain> ><
[20:08] <SatManUK> i mean
[20:08] <rysiek|pl> Tm_T: no, I got lost along the way
[20:09] <Tm_T> rysiek|pl: perhaps your best :)
[20:09] <medhat> iam not root any more
[20:09] <SatManUK> i mean 217.147.239.4 works but ubuntu.eriders.ge doesn't
[20:09] <rysiek|pl> Tm_T: your 3 last msgs: "meh", "erm", "rysiek|pl: you don't seem to follow what I say"
[20:09] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: now, that's not a problem with apt
[20:09] <Tm_T> rysiek|pl: yes yes, that wasn't my point ;)
[20:10] <rysiek|pl> Tm_T: point being?.. :)
[20:10] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: but with DNS. if pinging google.com works - DNS for the server is down
[20:10] <SatManUK> why konqueror et all can connect to the server
[20:10] <SatManUK> why can't apt?
[20:10] <ardchoille> medhat: Good, now do yourself a favor and lock the root account.
[20:10] <medhat> how can  i lock it
[20:10] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: please just do what I ask: 1. ping google.com.
[20:10] <ardchoille> !sudo
[20:10] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: pings?
[20:10] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[20:10] <SatManUK> yes
[20:11] <SatManUK> ubuntu.eriders.ge - pings
[20:11] <ardchoille> medhat: sudo passwd -l root
[20:11] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: it pings right now?
[20:11] <SatManUK> yes
[20:12] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: not "it used to ping yesterday"? ;)
[20:12] <SatManUK> it always pings
[20:12] <SatManUK> but apt can't find it..
[20:12] <SatManUK> if i put in the dns not the server name it always works
[20:12] <SatManUK> but i can still conntect to http://ubuntu.eriders.ge in a browser
[20:12] <velho> how can i register a nickname? please help... thank you!
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[20:12] <SatManUK> velho:  /ns register password e-mail
[20:13] <SatManUK> it just sits here waiting for headers..
[20:13] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille, after removed the drivers with restricted manager, did the TTYs work?
[20:13] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: if it pings RIGHT NOW at the DNS NAME, not IP, then, well, it's something really unusuall
[20:13] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: I would change the server
[20:13] <SatManUK> i know its really unusuall.. like to keep you on your toes..
[20:13] <Tm_T> SatManUK: my advice, stick in official mirrors when you can
[20:13] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: I didn't test that.. I removed and reinstalled via cli and they worked, tho
[20:14] <medhat> how can forward word to some one here like u guyz
[20:14] <SatManUK> what its doing is treating all servers as 1.0.0.0
[20:14] <SatManUK> sudo apt-get install - likewise
[20:14] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: ok, seen that once. that's a problem with your DNS server - the 192.168.1.1 machine
[20:14] <Tm_T> medhat: forward word?
[20:14] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille, did you install them in kdm/gdm/whatever?
[20:14] <SatManUK> but every other application but apt - doesn't have an issue with it
[20:14] <medhat> some chat appear on red in m screen
[20:14] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: I did it in tty1
[20:15] <medhat> when some one takes to me
[20:15] <ardchoille> medhat: You mean like this?
[20:15] <medhat> so how can i do that to otheres
[20:15] <medhat> yeah
[20:15] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: sudo echo "nameserver 208.67.222.222" > /etc/resolv.conf
[20:15] <Pupeno> !restricted
[20:15] <ardchoille> medhat: Use their nick: nick message
[20:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:15] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: that should help
[20:15] <ardchoille> rysiek|pl: That won't work. Sudo doesn't handle redirection like that
[20:15] <medhat> ardchoille: hey is that workin
[20:16] <ardchoille> medhat: Yes :)
[20:16] <medhat> ardchoille: thank you
[20:16] <rysiek|pl> ardchoille: you probably right
[20:16] <SatManUK> permission denied :P
[20:16] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille, but it doesn't work, how shall I cli install the drivers if i can't see what im doing?
[20:16] <rysiek|pl> sudo $( echo "nameserver 208.67.222.222" > /etc/resolv.conf )
[20:16] <medhat> so how can i lock the root and why i have o look it and what is the meaning of looking the root
[20:16] <ardchoille> rysiek|pl: echo "nameserver 208.67.222.222" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf
[20:16] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: ^^
[20:17] <medhat> locking*
[20:17] <rysiek|pl> thanks, ardchoille
[20:17] <mith__> helo all!
[20:17] <ardchoille> !sudo | medhat Read this page for that info
[20:17] <ubotu> medhat Read this page for that info: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[20:17] <ardchoille> rysiek|pl: yw
[20:17] <SatManUK> now that one worked :)
[20:18] <medhat> ok
[20:18] <rysiek|pl> SatManUK: now it should work AOK
[20:18] <mith__> Can anybody help me? If i want to install anything it writes that: "other program using the package installer" but there aren't any programs that using it...
[20:18] <SatManUK> but how do i kill adapt without locking the database?
[20:18] <SatManUK> adept
[20:18] <SatManUK> its froze..
[20:18] <SatManUK> on waiting for headers 28%
[20:18] <NickPresta> !aptfix | SatManUK
[20:18] <ubotu> SatManUK: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:18] <draik> Is there a channel for help with Kaffeine and/or video issues?
[20:19]  * rysiek|pl 's gotta go
[20:19] <rysiek|pl> cu all sometime later
[20:19] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: I just knew the proper command and what those commands would yield.. I know the cli pretty good.
[20:21] <SatManUK> later man
[20:21] <SatManUK> (already left i know)
[20:21] <SatManUK> now its froze at 63% instead of 28% :P
[20:21] <ubuntu_> hi
[20:21] <SatManUK> hi
[20:22] <draik> hello
[20:22] <ubuntu_> what's up
[20:22] <ardchoille> hi draik
[20:22] <draik> Hello ardchoille
[20:23] <mith__> i can't install anything, because it said, the apt in use... can anybody help me?
[20:23] <mith__> which program should be using the apt?
[20:23] <ardchoille> mith__: Close any other package managers you may have open
[20:23] <NickPresta> mith__, adept, synaptic, apt-get, aptitude all use the APT database
[20:23] <mith__> the aren't any
[20:24] <mith__> i know that
[20:24] <NickPresta> !aptfix | mith__
[20:24] <ubotu> mith__: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:24] <mith__> i have restarted my system
[20:24] <mith__> on a freshly restarted system i tried to install anything but it doesn't work :S
[20:25] <medhat> ardchoille: nice documentation
[20:26] <draik> ardchoille: After I did a reboot on my computer, the audio files were, well, audible.
[20:26] <medhat> ardchoille: have to go thanks for help
[20:26] <mith__> ubotu: thanks it works :)
[20:26] <sigma> does anyone know how to use the tv out on a dell d600 laptop (it has the ati mobility 9000 chipset and a composite tv out)
[20:26] <SatManUK> i give up - i change the ip again in the server you can all ponder later its 00:25 - i want these updates done for tonight..
[20:27] <sigma> i have already tried "atitvout" and that didnt work
[20:29] <sigma> and does anyone know how to sync a htc oxygen (s310 with windows mobile 5) with kontact?
[20:31] <BluesKaj> !tvout
[20:31] <ubuntu> hi
[20:31] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[20:36] <draik> Ok. Here is my strange issue. It's a Dell Dimension 4700 desktop. I cleared the CMOS and was able finally access DVDs in the drive. Now, Kaffeine is choppy. The Transformers DVD is not only choppy, but pixelated. It's just a bunch of green and orange squares blocking the main video. When I put in Chris Rock's special (pretty old), it plays, but not smoothly. It's jumpy/choppy and then it's fine. It goes back and forth. What could be causing this issue?
[20:38] <BluesKaj> draik, old codecs
[20:38] <ardchoille> draik: Have you enabled DMA for that drive?
[20:38] <draik> BluesKaj: How do I get the latest codecs? I thought I had them.
[20:38] <draik> ardchoille: Sadly enough, no.
[20:38] <ardchoille> !dma
[20:38] <BluesKaj> why did you clear the cmos , draik ?
[20:39] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[20:39] <draik> BluesKaj: I was talking to a guy at a bar that told me about a similar issue that he had with a Dell. You have to clear the CMOS or else you don't get to run certain apps. He was right. I wasn't able to use Kaffeine to play DVDs prior to clearing the CMOS
[20:40] <BluesKaj> dvlibdvdcss2 allows dvd playback
[20:40] <BluesKaj> oopd libdvdcss2
[20:40] <BluesKaj> oops
[20:40] <draik> BluesKaj: wow....
[20:41] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: You using my keyboard again? :)
[20:41] <draik> BluesKaj: It's the latest
[20:41] <BluesKaj> libxine1-ffmpeg  is the other important one and win3codec
[20:41] <i_want_kde4> hello i upgraded from feisty to gutsy and it seems not to be working. i have the new kdm but when i tipe my pass the screen locks. so i ran it in test mode (dunno its name its in spanish) so in the terminal i tiped kwin --replace kicker and kdesktop and now its workin. the question is ich file should i edit to make kwin the defaul window manager?
[20:41] <loonytunz> !printer
[20:41] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[20:41] <draik> BluesKaj: win3 or win32?
[20:41] <BluesKaj> win3
[20:41] <ardchoille> win32
[20:41] <BluesKaj> win32
[20:42] <BluesKaj> my KB is acting up
[20:42] <i_want_kde4> i dont have 3d aceleration cuz my integrated video card its not supported so i think compiz isthe problem
[20:42] <draik> Couldn't find win32
[20:42] <BluesKaj> win32codecs
[20:42] <draik> ah
[20:43] <draik> w32codecs is the latest
[20:44] <ardchoille> draik: try enabling dma
[20:44] <draik> Won't work
[20:44] <PeterPan_> can any one recomend a good dictionary to install ?
[20:44] <draik> I keep getting the error messages
[20:44] <draik> ardchoille: I'm going to KVM into the desktop. Gimme a sec
[20:45] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: Ok. I'm situated in the desktop now
[20:45] <NickPresta> PeterPan_, kdict
[20:46] <i_want_kde4> how can i set kwin back as my window manager?
[20:46] <PeterPan_> NickPresta:  free and best it is?
[20:47] <NickPresta> it has no cost associated with it and it's a good dictionary client
[20:47] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: That is what I get when I follow the directions
[20:47] <PeterPan_> NickPresta: ok
[20:48] <PeterPan_> NickPresta: do you know any better. max vocabulary  if multimedia with videos and sounds and speller would be better
[20:49] <NickPresta> PeterPan_, I don't know, sorry
[20:49] <jagcorvair> I would nuke the HDD and start fresh, but I get CLI when using the Gutsy Live CD
[20:50] <PeterPan_> k
[20:50] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i edit Network interfaces,routes, and my domain name systems
[20:50] <Jay-Oh-En> without using knetwork manager
[20:50] <kottlett> hi! is there a guide somewhere, for easy setup and administration of a small network with some (dev) workstations running (k)ubuntu?
[20:51] <khaije1> anyone using miro player? i'm just wondering if mp4's play properly for you
[20:51] <BluesKaj> draik, sounds like you may have some fstab probs but I'm not familiar enuff with the file to spot what it might be.
[20:52] <crazy6> ok, so, when I open a torrent via firefox, there isn't an option to open it with ktorrent, and I always have ot type in /usr/bin/ktorrent .. is tihs fixable?
[20:52] <jagcorvair> BluesKaj: It's all good.
[20:53] <BluesKaj> jagcorvair, ??
[20:53] <jagcorvair> BluesKaj: I KVM'd into my friend's desktop
[20:54] <jagcorvair> BluesKaj: :) Sorry about that... How's this.........
[20:54] <draik> BluesKaj: It's all good
[20:55] <tes2> hi all
[20:55] <ardchoille> hi tes2
[20:55] <jhutchins> We need to put some sort of big blinking readme on the installer or the firstrun or something that says "Don't go downloading software like windows, learn to use the package manager!!!"
[20:56] <ardchoille> jhutchins: Indeed
[20:56] <crazy6> well, a Konq startup page that is "How to use Ubuntu" would take car eof that (mac's have it w/ a video, right?)
[20:56] <tes2> tach
[20:57] <tes2> kennt einer einen weg, um thunderbird-email aus windows nach thundesbird linux zu exportieren ?
[20:57] <ardchoille> !de | tes2
[20:57] <ubotu> tes2: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:58] <tes2> da hab ich leider keine lösung gefunden :-(
[20:58] <draik> jhutchins: I second/third that
[20:59] <crazy6> I'm tellin ya, make a nice little video
[20:59] <draik> crazy6: video about what? There are many MANuals.
[21:00] <draik> Ubotu is great with most info. !apt is helpful.
[21:00] <jhutchins> draik: Yeah, but we need to direct people TO the manuals withs something simple but really "in your face".
[21:00] <draik> Ummm... Can someone tell the Ops to disregard the submission I just made without knowing?
[21:00] <crazy6> draik: a video that shows on firstrun that says how to use ubuntu (package manager, etc)
[21:00] <ardchoille> Open konqueror and type: apt:/  or  man:/
[21:01] <jhutchins> draik: what did you submit?
[21:01] <jhutchins> crazy6: I don't want something that tells how to use the pacakge manager, but something that tells them to use it.
[21:01] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille, I installed the drivers in TTY, but it still doesn't work :(
[21:01] <draik> Not sure. This is what Ubotu PM'd me... "Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail" I think it was about (!)apt being helpful
[21:02] <ardchoille> jhutchins: I still think that is a great idea
[21:02] <draik> jhutchins: Yeah, but "USE IT OR ELSE" without instructions will turn new users away
[21:02] <ardchoille> jhutchins: Are you in a position to get that done?
[21:03] <draik> ardchoille: jhutchins: crazy6: http://www.draikunderlord.com/Kubuntu.html
[21:04] <draik> That is something I put together as "basics"
[21:06] <draik> Nothing special, I assure you
[21:07] <ksal> hi
[21:07] <ksal> how can i turn compiz on?
[21:07] <posingaspopular> !compuz | draik
[21:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compuz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:08] <posingaspopular> !compiz
[21:08] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:08] <draik> posingaspopular: ...? I think you want ksal
[21:10] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille, cli installing didn't help
[21:11] <draik> ardchoille: You know how to install Kubuntu (fresh install) via CLI?
[21:12] <ardchoille> draik: the alternate install cd
[21:13] <ardchoille> Ax-Ax: :(
[21:13] <draik> ardchoille: Can it be done via Live CD?
[21:13] <lovre> can someone tell me what is the most played multiplayer (online) game on linux?
[21:14] <lovre> fps
[21:15] <Ax-Ax> ardchoille, but the TTYs works in failsafe, and nvidia drivers too :S
[21:15] <draik> UT2004.... Tremulous.... and many other games which are compatible with Cedega and WINE
[21:17] <Ax-Ax> draik: UT2004 is native or am I wrong?
[21:17] <draik> Ax-Ax: It is native.
[21:17] <Ax-Ax> draik: thought so:)
[21:18] <draik> Ax-Ax: Although not supported by Atari, it's there
[21:22] <Daemon> can anybody help me with winex?
[21:22] <biovore> All the unreals have native ports..   See http://icculus.org/
[21:23] <Daemon> i don't know how to install it
[21:25] <NickPresta> Daemon, you mean Cedega?
[21:27] <BanisterKelly> Is there a way to xfer files from my Kubuntu Linux to my Windows using the network?
[21:28] <Daemon> NickPresta cedega??
[21:28] <n00b> hello all.  anyone have any experience with wicd, which i'm using instead of knetworkmanager
[21:28] <Daemon> NickPresta i really dont know im just noob. I want to play games on linux and I saw wine but it doesn't work
[21:29] <tekteen> !smb | BanisterKelly
[21:29] <ubotu> BanisterKelly: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[21:29] <BanisterKelly> Thank you very much.
[21:29] <BanisterKelly> I am off to get some reading in.  lol
[21:29] <jagcorvair> !cedega > Daemon
[21:29] <tekteen> BanisterKelly: no problem
[21:30] <BanisterKelly> I have a 4GB ISO I wanna xfer off this PC if I can.
[21:30] <jagcorvair> !cedega | Daemon
[21:30] <ubotu> Daemon: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[21:30] <tekteen> that is easy
[21:31] <tekteen> BanisterKelly: on your linux machine open a konsole and type "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[21:31] <tekteen> this sets up the linux end
[21:32] <BanisterKelly> Thank you
[21:32] <n00b> anyone use wicd?
[21:32] <tekteen> on the windows end download this file "http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/pscp.exe"
[21:33] <tekteen> make sure to put it on your desktop
[21:33] <BanisterKelly> Does it work with Windows 98?
[21:33] <tekteen> yes
[21:33] <BanisterKelly> I sshould of mentioned that.  lol
[21:33] <tekteen> yep
[21:34] <BanisterKelly> can you email that link to me?
[21:34] <tekteen> do u know how to make a .bat file
[21:34] <tekteen> ?
[21:34] <BanisterKelly> Of course.  I am a DOS masteer.  lol  Love DOS.  Thats one reason I keep 98SE running on a spare very old PC.
[21:34] <tekteen> ok
[21:35] <tekteen> then u don't need to make one
[21:35] <tekteen> since u know dos
[21:35] <BanisterKelly> OKay.
[21:36] <BanisterKelly> Be back soon.
[21:36] <tekteen> run the command pscp.exe USER@HOST:FILE <PLACE TO PUT FILE>
[21:36] <tekteen> no wait
[21:36] <tekteen> pscp.exe --cypher=none ...
[21:37] <hdevalence> if I have an ext3 external drive and it got accidentally unplugged, will the kde media detecter run e2fsck?
[21:38] <laurent_> can anyone help me, I've a problem to install vmwareserver on 7.10
[21:38] <michael__> hello all
[21:38] <michael__> shalom
[21:38] <tekteen> michael__: shalom
[21:39] <Pollywog> does anyone else have a problem with kmail losing message bodies?
[21:40] <n00b> anyone have any good alternatives to KnetworkManager that are more reliable?
[21:40] <tekteen> I use the cli
[21:41] <michael__> I have a fresh install of gutsy 7.10 and I noticed my SB Audigy has more static than a  telsa coil
[21:41] <tekteen> iwconfig? dhclient? wpa supplicant? anything else knetworkmanager is a frontend for?
[21:42] <n00b> michael_: is this for your 5.1 system?
[21:42] <michael__> n00b: hey man, yeah it is
[21:42] <n00b> michael_: still no solution, eh?
[21:43] <n00b> tekteen: any good wireless guis?
[21:43] <michael__> n00b:  not yet, but there will be
[21:43] <tekteen> n00b: trying to remember the name
[21:44] <tekteen> !wireless
[21:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:44] <michael__> I have run into countless people with the same prob, but they were noobies like me so the ones that got it fix culdnt tell me how they did it
[21:45] <n00b> michael_: did you see this --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1525153&postcount=4
[21:45] <BanisterKelly> Xfer functioning perfectly.  Thank you Tekteen
[21:46] <ciacon> hi all - I have a Q - what is the best way to find out what kind of Sound System I use?? I just installed the Kubuntu 7.10 and am experienceing some sound problems - all command line apps seem to have problems accessing the soundcard and I also have the feeling, that Kopete does not notify me of new messages thaks to sound-problems - can someone give me some advice??
[21:46] <JackWinter> i have a problem installing aMule 2.1.3-3 on kubuntu gutsy ?
[21:46] <michael__> n00b: thanks, I'll look at it now
[21:48] <morphinex> hey folks, adept crashed halfway through install updates to go from 7.04 to 7.10
[21:48] <morphinex> What should I do?
[21:49] <ciacon> morphinex: try this in the console "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[21:49] <Rukus> anyone have any suggestions on a flashfxp alternative? i tried gftp, but i cant get it to do what i want
[21:50] <ciacon> Rukus: have you tried "KGet"?
[21:50] <morphinex> ciacon: it only wants to upgrade a few files
[21:50] <morphinex> ciacon: err a few packages, only eight
[21:51] <Rukus> i need auth TLS does it d othat?
[21:51] <morphinex> this happened when I upgraded before, and I recall having to issue a command that had something to do wqith reconfigure
[21:51] <ciacon> morphinex: I am no expert - but my Kubuntu crashed in mid-way aswell... I had just previously installed a new ati-driver, so I was bound to the console - dist-upgrade did the trick for me...
[21:52] <morphinex> ciacon: ok, thanks :)
[21:52] <ciacon> morphinex: I can only try - whis is less, than the most here do...
[21:53] <morphinex> hey, if it gets hosed I can always reinstall
[21:53] <morphinex> that's why I put /home on a seperate disk
[21:55] <Rukus> i'll reword, i need a FlashFXP alternative for linux that supports SSL, specifically auth TLS.  any suggestions?
[21:56] <paule118> iiiiiitgpgt
[21:56] <paule118> okkk#
[21:56] <paule118> klöäiioiozihöp
[21:56] <paule118> klö-ugfz,i6,9465
[21:57] <paule118> jloääözkih  zufkirf
[21:57] <NickPresta> paule118, ?
[21:57] <paule118> he
[21:58] <paule118> kotz
[21:58] <paule118> ´´´´´´´´´´´```????
[21:58] <NickPresta> !cod | paule118
[21:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:59] <paule118> 33333333333333333
[21:59] <NickPresta> !coc | paule118
[21:59] <ubotu> paule118: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[21:59] <paule118> dank
[21:59] <paule118> de
[22:00] <paule118> ubuntu
[22:00] <NickPresta> !de | paule118
[22:00] <ubotu> paule118: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[22:01] <paule118> skype
[22:01] <paule118> skype ????
[22:01] <NickPresta> !skype | paule118
[22:01] <ubotu> paule118: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[22:02] <paule118> dank
[22:02] <NickPresta> !english | paule118
[22:02] <ubotu> paule118: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[22:03] <paule118> thank
[22:04] <paule118> tanke
[22:05] <Gibby69> How do you force a screen resolution change in Ubuntu 7.04? Paule 118
[22:06] <sourcemaker> I am sorry for this question, but what is jabber? And how can I use this?
[22:06] <Pollywog> Jabber is a chat protocol
[22:06] <NickPresta> sourcemaker, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabber
[22:06] <Pollywog> you can use Kopete, Psi , Gamin, or Pidgin to connect to Jabber servers
[22:07] <Pollywog> oops Gajim
[22:08] <Pollywog> not Gamin
[22:08] <sourcemaker> Pollywog: thanks
[22:09] <thomas_newbie__>  does anyone know how to display the last few words of certain lines in a text file?
[22:09] <dick-richardson> How do I burn an .avi file (xvid and mp3) to a dvd?
[22:10] <thomas_newbie__> dick-richardson: do you want to have it played on a stand alone player?
[22:10] <dick-richardson> thomas_newbie__: tail <filename>
[22:10] <dick-richardson> thomas_newbie__: yeah
[22:10] <thomas_newbie__> dick-richardson: you'd have to convert your avi to mpeg2
[22:11] <thomas_newbie__> dick-richardson: and then compile into dvd format
[22:11] <dick-richardson> thomas_newbie__: will k3b do that?
[22:11] <thomas_newbie__> dick-richardson: in other words....author your the mpeg into dvd format
[22:11] <paule118> Portieren (eingedeutscht): Das Verändern eines Programms, um es auf einem anderen System oder einer anderen Architektur benutzen zu können.
[22:11] <thomas_newbie__> dick-richardson: is that a program....never heard of it
[22:12] <dick-richardson> thomas_newbie__: yeah, it's the native kde burning app
[22:12] <Gibby69> How can i force a screen resolution change in after changing from a CRT to a LCD monitor
[22:12] <thomas_newbie__> dick-richardson: hehe i have no idea on it
[22:12] <thomas_newbie__> dick-richardson: i don't use linux much :S
[22:13] <paule118> dick-richardson: hehe i have no idea on it
[22:13] <thomas_newbie__> dick-richardson: tail won't do it
[22:14] <HS^> anyone has a screenshot of kubuntu (fonts)
[22:15] <thomas_newbie__> Gibby69: what do you mean?
[22:15] <Murchadh> Hi all! Anyone good with boot time cheat codes - I used to use vga=791 in my grub files so as to have a good resolution at the command prompt, and since upgrade to 7.10 I've had to remove it. The screen is just blank, I can login blind but that's not great. Any ideas? I hate using a 19" monitor in vga mode.
[22:15] <paule118>  i have no idea on it
[22:16] <thomas_newbie__>  does anyone know how to display the last few words of a line in a text file?
[22:17] <ciacon> hi all - I've just run through a guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto .... I rebooted and now I'm up the following step: "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec" which returns "cat: /proc/asound/card0/codec#*: No such file or directory"... I'm stuck - can anyone help?
[22:17] <Murchadh> Gibby69: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the new monitor settings there when asked. First: cp /etc/X11/xserver-xorg /etc/X11/xserver-xorg.bak
[22:18] <paule118>  i have no idea on
[22:18] <dobigeon> Un pti bonjour a tout les utilisateurs de Kubuntu ! ^
[22:19] <paule118>  i have no idea on´
[22:22] <thomas_newbie__>  does anyone know how to display the last word of a line in a text file?
[22:23] <paule118> jjüüpgölfuil-.uto
[22:23] <paule118> klulguiööoäopuhüi0-
[22:23] <jpatrick> thomas_newbie__: "cat file | tail -n 1"?
[22:23] <Gibby69> Murchadh: how do you reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:24] <jpatrick> Gibby69: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:24] <angel_> !de | paule1118
[22:24] <ubotu> paule1118: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[22:24] <thomas_newbie__> jpatrick: no i dont think
[22:24] <jpatrick> thomas_newbie__: last line but oh well
[22:25] <paule118> ou need to be a channel operator to do that
[22:25] <thomas_newbie__> jpatrick: dont need the cat anyway, just dont know how to get the last word in a line
[22:25] <jpatrick> thomas_newbie__: ah, sorry then
[22:30] <gan|y|med> hi
[22:31] <gan|y|med> i am compiling my own kernel. however, it cannot find root. fs support and ata driver are compiled in. i suppose, it is the fact that the old ata driver is used and therefore /dev/hda instead of /dev/sda. does anybody know how to make /dev/sda the default?
[22:33] <NickNak> thomas_newbie__: awk '{ print $NF }' < inputfile
[22:33] <thomas_newbie__> NickNak: haha wtf is that
[22:34] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, it's awk. It's magic ;)
[22:34] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: lol i have no idea what awk is and the rest before the <
[22:36] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, `man awk`
[22:36] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: ok for now
[22:37] <NickPresta> thomas_newbie__, alternately, you can do `tail -n 1 file`
[22:37] <NickPresta> to get the last line
[22:39] <thomas_newbie__> NickPresta: thats only for that line, I need tail -3 file .......then "lastwordofline"
[22:39] <row> What is the adv of using UUIDs in fstab over normal /dev devices?
[22:42] <dingodeege> Color me confounded. Any clue why setting the BIOS Primary Display Adapter to PCI would result in a boot/installation freeze during Hardware Detection?
[22:43] <K`zan> Here is an odd one that perhaps someone can help me resolve.  Kubuntu in a vmware vm, boots to the login screen at 1800 x 1400 or something like that and then resizes after I login in to the 1024x768 that I want.  Problem is the background for login screen is still there and the 1024x768 is sort of in the middle of it.  Any thoughts appreciated!
[22:43] <thomas_newbie__> hey guys is KOPETE the best to use....Should I use another Instant messenger program
[22:44] <thomas_newbie__> because I can't voice chat with friends when they using windows live Messenger
[22:44] <K`zan> Is there another xorg.conf that kdm uses separate from the one in /etc/X11 ?
[22:47] <JackWinter> i have a problem in adept.  when i try to install packages i get the following msg:There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[22:51] <Zombocom> hello?
[22:51] <Zombocom> xserver went crazy
[22:51] <Zombocom> and went kaput
[22:51] <Zombocom> bbl about this though
[22:51] <ToddEDM> hey guys, i got Kubuntu installed, but i cant get the wireless card to work, what can i do to get it going?????
[22:55] <thomas_newbie__> doesn't this command: echo -n "Last line" >> /mail/mail2        :writes Last line into file mail2 without showing on the cmd line?
[22:55] <ToddEDM> why is this room dead?
[22:55] <thomas_newbie__> its supoost to append
[22:56] <Pollywog> thomas_newbie__: it is not appending?
[22:56] <thomas_newbie__> Pollywog: no i think it is
[22:56] <thomas_newbie__> but i'm doing a test and it says thats the wrong answer
[22:56] <Pollywog> maybe the test is wrong
[22:57] <Pollywog> ToddEDM: which card?
[22:57] <ToddEDM> WMP54G
[22:57] <Pollywog> I don't know about that card
[22:58] <Pollywog> have you Googled?
[22:58] <ToddEDM> not really i just got kubuntu installed
[22:58] <sourcemaker_> JackWinter: try the command line.... sometimes... there is user interaction required... which is not possible in adept
[22:58] <Shao`> Linksys card?
[22:58] <ToddEDM> yes Shao`
[22:59] <ToddEDM> mwp54g
[22:59] <ToddEDM> WMP54G
[22:59] <Shao`> Hm
[22:59] <Shao`> Unless they've changed chipsets recently, it uses broadcom chipset, and you need firmware to make it work.
[23:00] <ToddEDM> hmmmm and how would i go about doing that
[23:00] <nikos> hi , i have the kubuntu 7.10 but i very new to linux :) and i want to do format to one of my hdd how i do this ?
[23:00] <ToddEDM> nikos: QTParted
[23:01] <nikos> i have use it but is nor work for me :(
[23:01] <sourcemaker> nikos: which file format do you want to use?
[23:01] <nikos> not*
[23:01] <nikos> ext3
[23:02] <Pollywog> QTParted is on the desktop CD, if it does not work try the Ubuntu CD or the System Rescue CD
[23:02] <Pollywog> the System Rescue CD is found by googling
[23:02] <Pollywog> it is very handy
[23:03] <Pollywog> and has gparted
[23:03] <Pollywog> which has worked for me when qtparted would not work
[23:03] <sourcemaker> nikos: create/delete/change the patition fdisk /dev/hda and mke2fs -j format disk
[23:03] <nikos> look i to format with qtparted but when i put the button it do not do enything
[23:03] <sourcemaker>  /dev/hda ... chang in correct disk !!!!
[23:04] <sourcemaker> nikos: or sd* for sata disks
[23:04] <nikos> mm i will try now
[23:04] <sourcemaker> nikos: ext2  	mke2fs ext3  mke2fs -j reiserfs  mkreiserfs xfs  mkfs.xfs jfs  mkfs.jfs
[23:05] <sourcemaker> this are the command for different file system types :-)
[23:05] <sourcemaker> nikos: your disk should be un-mounted .... check with df -h
[23:07] <BanisterKelly> I tried copying a file from this Linux PC to Windows via network and it goes and then says that it cannot write to the destination.  Anyone can help?
[23:07] <BanisterKelly> I was using Samba
[23:07] <nikos> look i want to format a usb disk
[23:07] <BanisterKelly> Is tekteen still around?
[23:07] <sourcemaker> nikos: for windows or linux use?
[23:07] <nikos> linux
[23:08] <nikos> the disk is new
[23:08] <nikos> it have not created yet
[23:08] <BanisterKelly> I am trying to copy a 4GB file to a Windows PC.
[23:09] <sourcemaker> nikos: can you mount the disk?
[23:09] <nikos> no
[23:09] <sourcemaker> nikos: mount /dev/sdXXX1  /mnt/usb -t ntfs?
[23:10] <ciacon> hi folks - can anyone help me?? I had minor sond probs @ first. I went through this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto  (reconmended @ #ubuntu) and hit the first reboot - I did a "make uninstll" in all the relevant dirs and rebootet again - not I have this prob... no sound and the Sound and the System Settings -> Sound give me this... http://ciacon.dyndns.org:8001/arts-prob.png    can anyone pls help me??
[23:10] <BluesKaj> BanisterKelly, using samba I assume ?
[23:10] <sourcemaker> mke2fs -j /dev/USBDRiVE
[23:10] <BanisterKelly> Yes
[23:10] <BanisterKelly> samba
[23:10] <nikos> mount: can't find /dev/sdc1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[23:11] <BluesKaj> BanisterKelly, konq or other means?
[23:11] <sourcemaker> you forgot the mount pount :-( mount /dev/sdc1 /media/usb
[23:11] <BanisterKelly> I click on copy, choose the network shared folder and choose paste.
[23:12] <BanisterKelly> It copies all the way and then stops with an error.
[23:12] <BluesKaj> what's the error?
[23:12] <BanisterKelly> Cannot write to the destination or something.
[23:13] <BanisterKelly> Wait.  I am copying a 4GB file to fat32.  That might be why.
[23:13] <BanisterKelly> Duh.
[23:13]  * BanisterKelly slaps himself.
[23:13] <BluesKaj> you may have to go into the shared folder in windows to give yourself read/write permission
[23:13] <BanisterKelly> If I remember right, Fat32 cannot handle 4GB files.
[23:14] <BluesKaj> dunno , been using XP on my windows share = ntfs
[23:14] <BanisterKelly> Thats probably why I cannot copy the file.
[23:14] <BanisterKelly> My PC cannot use XP.
[23:14] <BanisterKelly> Too old, slow, etc.
[23:14] <BluesKaj> I mean your windows pc
[23:15] <BluesKaj> ok
[23:15] <BanisterKelly> The Windows PC is 550Mhz 384MB
[23:15] <sourcemaker> BanisterKelly:  4 GiB − 1 byte *g*
[23:15] <BluesKaj> wife has xp on her 366mhz 256ram pc..runs fine
[23:15] <Murchadh> BanisterKelly: That's the reason alright. I remember ripping a DVD to a FAT32 drive once and it split the file into 2 4 gig pieces due to the FAT32 limitations.
[23:16] <BanisterKelly> Thank you
[23:18] <BanisterKelly> Is there a way to have Windows access the ISO from this PC?
[23:19] <BanisterKelly> LInux sees Windows, can I have Windows see and access LInux?
[23:19] <ctp> hi folks. the difference between kubuntu and original ubuntu is _only_ kde vs gnome? i have to setup ubuntu+kde on 16 desktops, so wanna chose the right one ;-)
[23:21] <Murchadh> BanisterKelly: Share it with samba. Should be installed if you can access Windows shares.
[23:21] <morphinex> jesus, I can't get my feisty to gutsy upgrade to happen
[23:21] <BanisterKelly> How?
[23:22] <BanisterKelly> I tried clicking on Share folder and it says that smb and nfs servers are not installed.
[23:22] <BanisterKelly> I was going to add/remove to install them.
[23:23] <Murchadh> BanisterKelly: In konqueror, right-click on the .iso file and select sharing. Install samba with apt-get install samba.
[23:23] <gan|y|med> BanisterKelly: are the drives on the same pc?
[23:23] <BanisterKelly> OKay.
[23:23] <BanisterKelly> No
[23:23] <gan|y|med> then samba
[23:24] <BanisterKelly> I am trying to allow Windows to access a 4GB file on this PC.
[23:24] <BanisterKelly> File too big to copy over.
[23:24] <angel_> banisterkelly: see http://www.fs-driver.org/screenshots.html
[23:24] <gan|y|med> how is /dev/sda used a default in kubuntu??
[23:24] <angel_> read partition ext3 in windows
[23:26] <Murchadh> BanisterKelly: http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic2791.html seems to be a good place to start.
[23:26] <gan|y|med> BanisterKelly: what exactly do you want to do?
[23:26] <sourcemaker> morphinex: what's wrong?
[23:29] <BanisterKelly> I am trying to get Windows 98 to be able to see a folder on the Linux PC so it can read a large file/
[23:30] <BanisterKelly> If that makes sense.
[23:30] <BanisterKelly> The file is too large for the Fat32 filesystem.
[23:31] <gan|y|med> larger than 32 gb (this is the limit, isn't it). and what does the file size have to do with it if you access it via samba anyway
[23:31] <thomas_newbie__> when I click on "request install" nothing happens
[23:31] <sourcemaker> BanisterKelly: it make not sense :-) The file is too lage... why are u using Win98?
[23:31] <morphinex> sourcemaker: it keeps crashing in the middle of the upgrade
[23:32] <sourcemaker> morphinex: I had the same problem...
[23:32] <gan|y|med> probably because he has to...? why else?
[23:32] <morphinex> sourcemaker: what is the solution?
[23:32] <BanisterKelly> Forget I asked.  I like 98 for one, and second the PC is too old for XP.
[23:32] <sourcemaker> morphinex: the upgrade utility have some bugs in my opinion... using the command line solves the problem
[23:32] <Murchadh> BanisterKelly: At a prompt type apt-get install samba and tell us what it reports back. If samba is installed you can share directories in 2 different ways, editing /etc/samba/smb.conf or right click on the folder in konqueror and select sharing.
[23:32] <morphinex> sourcemaker: so just apt-get dist-upgrade?
[23:33] <morphinex> Now I have like half a feisty and half  gutsy install
[23:33] <angel_> banisterkelly: whyt the program Ext2IFS you can read/write  ext3...but only run in Windows NT4.0/2000/XP/2003
[23:33] <morphinex> Sooo annoying. Why don't they fix it? It crashed when I upgraded before too
[23:34] <BanisterKelly> angel I don't have Windows NT 4/2K/XP/2003
[23:34] <gan|y|med> i am asking myself the same question for a dozen of other issues
[23:34] <sourcemaker> morphinex:(1) apt-get dist-upgrade  (2) do-release-upgrade
[23:34] <sourcemaker> morphinex: execute do-release-upgrade only... when all updates are installed
[23:34] <morphinex> sourcemaker: dist-upgrade gives me an error
[23:34] <sourcemaker> morphinex: what's the error message?
[23:35] <BanisterKelly> I think its installing samba
[23:35] <gan|y|med> BanisterKelly: what exactly do you want to do? you don't need ext2IFS if you don want access an ext2/3 partition on the same pc from win
[23:35] <morphinex> sourcemaker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45856/
[23:35] <morphinex> I hope the database isn't hosed
[23:35] <BanisterKelly> I keep mentioning I am using two PC's.  One WIndows and one Linux.
[23:36] <gan|y|med> then forget IFS and install samba. i suggest u use konqueror for sharing as it provides a similar feel to windows
[23:36] <angel_> ahhh... with samba you can
[23:37] <Murchadh> BanisterKelly: When it's installed do the right click in konqueror on the .iso you want to share, select Properties, Sharing....
[23:37] <tahir> Hi - I am running kubuntu 7.10 with vlc 0.8.6c and am trying to play an avi coming from my home computer many miles away to my parents computer. I have upload speed by my ISP of 1.3Mbps and download speed of 1Mbps at my mums. The file plays ok for a few minutes and then stops playing. I reckon it is a bandwidth issue but I am not sure what the options to change in preferences are to help the file to play across the WAN.
[23:38] <sourcemaker> morphinex: apt-get update
[23:38] <BanisterKelly> Sharing isn't listed.
[23:38] <BanisterKelly> It is when I select the folder.
[23:38] <gan|y|med> you might have to "be" root
[23:38] <morphinex> sourcemaker: I have both gutsy and feisty repos in there
[23:38] <gan|y|med> which is kind of annoying and stupid, but hey...
[23:39] <sourcemaker> morphinex: why doing this?
[23:39] <morphinex> sourcemaker: same exact error
[23:39] <BanisterKelly> brb
[23:39] <morphinex> sourcemaker: like I said, it crashed when I was upgrading before and left my system this way
[23:39] <ignoramus> hey all- still having trouble with KnetworkManager - it won't connect automatically, but after 2 or 3 tries to connect manually, it finally does.  WTF?
[23:39] <sourcemaker> morphinex: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:39] <tahir> I have mounted the files with sshfs
[23:40] <sourcemaker> morphinex: replace feisty with gusty
[23:40] <morphinex> sourcemaker: are you sure? the machine is currently running feisty
[23:40] <angel_> baniserkelly: propieties
[23:41] <tahir> and am playing the avi with vlc but only plays for a few minutes ... Is playing an avi across such distance possible with the upload and download speeds mentioned?
[23:41] <morphinex> sou
[23:41] <morphinex> sourcemaker: maybe I should repalce gutsy?
[23:42] <sourcemaker> morphinex: well have you execute apt-get dist-upgrade bevor starting the gui upgrade ?
[23:42] <morphinex> sourcemaker: yeah, I tried that after the first time it crashed
[23:42] <morphinex> sourcemaker: byut the first time I did it, it upgraded only vrey few packages
[23:42] <tekteen> tahir: it is very hard to strem these files fast enough
[23:43] <ToddEDM> Shao`:  hey what is this firmware you spaeak of that i need to get my WMP54G wifi card working ?
[23:43] <tekteen> stream*
[23:43] <sourcemaker> morphinex: replace gusty with feisty and execute do-dist-upgrade
[23:44] <tekteen> tahir: The biggest problem is that vlc does not know it is remote and therefore expects it to be a faster disc.
[23:44] <morphinex> sourcemaker: what does do-dist-upgrade do?
[23:45] <sourcemaker> morphinex: i mean: do-release-upgrade
[23:45] <morphinex> ok, it is doing it now
[23:45] <sourcemaker> morphinex: it's a script from ubuntu... for release upgrading... i
[23:46] <ToddEDM> anyone know of some firmware i need to get a linksys WMP54g Wifi card working?....
[23:46] <morphinex> sourcemaker: it errored out...
[23:47] <sourcemaker> morphinex: whats the message?
[23:47] <morphinex> sourcemaker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45857/
[23:47] <hagabaka> thanks :)
[23:47] <cloakable> heh
[23:47] <tekteen> ToddEDM: have u tried the restricted drivers manager?
[23:48] <ToddEDM> nope
[23:49] <ToddEDM> where do i find that tekteen
[23:49] <BanisterKelly> Back.  I chose sharing on the folder and says I can only share folders in my home directory.
[23:49] <tekteen> ToddEDM: open up the "system settings" program in the k menu
[23:49] <ToddEDM> ok i found it
[23:49] <tekteen> cool
[23:49] <tekteen> I am a slow typer
[23:50] <morphinex> sourcemaker: looks like it is downloading a corrupt file
[23:50] <angel_> banisterkelly: mount you disk in home
[23:50] <tekteen> ToddEDM: did it work?
[23:51] <jagcorvair> While attempting to enable DMA, I tried "sudo hdparm -t /dev/scd1" and got this error: Timing buffered disk reads:  read() failed: Input/output error
[23:51] <ToddEDM> ok i just tried to enable the driver, then i get an error "The Software Source for the package    bcm43xx-fwcutter     is not enabled
[23:52] <tekteen> ok
[23:52] <BanisterKelly> How angel?
[23:52] <morphinex> sourcemaker: that file is downloadable...
[23:52] <angel_> banisterkelly: or a  ln -s     link symbolic
[23:52] <tekteen> do u have all the repositories enabled
[23:52] <tekteen> ?
[23:52] <BanisterKelly> I try to access and its giving me I have no permissions.
[23:54] <sourcemaker> morphinex: I do not know this problem...  the do-release-upgrade was working for me... :-)
[23:54] <angel_> permission with      chmod 777        as root
[23:54] <ToddEDM> notsure tekteen
[23:54] <jagcorvair> I have followed what seems to be every instruction on the 'net, but I cannot enable DMA. Would this be a Kubuntu, media players, drive, Dell (computer brand), Memorex (DVDR brand) or _____?____ issue?
[23:54] <Murchadh> BanisterKelly: You could edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf file and add the share that way. I can pastebin the 3 lines required to do that.
[23:54] <morphinex> sourcemaker: oh well... someone told me to try to upgrade with the alternate install CD, so I guess I will try that next
[23:54] <tekteen> angel_: for BanisterKelly's problem, the kde daemon that mounts the drives does not change the ownership to plugdev.
[23:54] <ToddEDM> is that where it says show proprietary and un supported software
[23:55] <jagcorvair> s/drive/driver
[23:55] <tekteen> ToddEDM: can u pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[23:55] <ToddEDM> tek, i dont know what that is
[23:55] <BanisterKelly> Please do
[23:55] <tekteen> ok
[23:55] <ToddEDM> sorry im such a noob
[23:55] <tekteen> !pastebin | ToddEDM
[23:55] <ubotu> ToddEDM: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:56] <ToddEDM> ok wait, i see software sources
[23:56] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: Do you know if there exists such a thing as Linux experts where I can take my computer to get checked?
[23:56] <BanisterKelly> conf file opened as root
[23:57] <Murchadh> BanisterKelly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45860/ - Add that to the bottom of the smb.conf file altering it to reflect the location of the file you wish to share.
[23:57] <BanisterKelly> Thank you
[23:57] <tekteen> ToddEDM: do u still need help?
[23:58] <ToddEDM> yeah, i do , hold on a sec
[23:59] <ToddEDM> ok i cant really paste that sources file
[23:59] <tekteen> why not?
[23:59] <Dragnslcr> How stable is the KDE4 RC? Anyone found any bugs that make it annoyingly unusable?
[23:59] <Murchadh> BanisterKelly: This is just a temporary solution to see if it solves your problem. Samba should really be setup more securely in the long run.
[23:59] <ToddEDM> i cant get online with it
[23:59] <tekteen> ok
[23:59] <ToddEDM> with that machine