[01:51] <h3sp4wn> Anything particularly broken ? (Not bothered if the kernel or Xorg is broken particularly) I want to fix a few things that have been really bugging me with gutsy (but I think are just packaging errors)
[01:53] <h3sp4wn> I wonder when Ubuntu will actually be taken seriously (if ever) by the people making engineering software
[01:53] <Tm_T> what you mean?
[01:55] <h3sp4wn> Tm_T: supported (i.e not just providing deb's for RHEL)
[01:55] <h3sp4wn> not debs sorry :) rpm's
[01:56] <Tm_T> hmm
[01:56] <Tm_T> issue in Ubuntu side is...
[01:56] <h3sp4wn> If someone is using a design suite that costs $100,000 or so they will use it with a supported OS
[01:56] <Tm_T> yes
[01:56] <Tm_T> I know
[01:57] <Tm_T> I'm wondering why they don't support deb*
[01:58] <h3sp4wn> No idea - I wonder if Mark Shuttleworth is offering to pay people to certify their apps (or send programmers) for Ubuntu (like Sun does for Solaris stuff that their customers want)
[01:58] <Tm_T> I see
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> I wonder if RedHat has any involvement in these apps at all or not either (or helps them in anyway) - I am not that bothered to use CentOS just for a bit (better than Windows) but I guess more students would run Ubuntu if that was what was in the labs here
[02:46] <bardyr> hey
[02:46] <bardyr> !info linux-image-generic
[02:46] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB
[03:48] <bardyr> !info linux-image-generic
[03:48] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB
[06:02] <DanaG> yay!  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=411266
[06:02] <ubotu> Debian bug 411266 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "xserver-xorg-input-synaptics: better two finger scrolling support" [Wishlist,Fixed]
[06:02] <DanaG> yay!
[06:02] <RAOF> Cool
[06:04] <DanaG> yahoo!  That had been bugging me for a while.
[10:39] <Jaymac1> is there any way to automount an nfs share that is on a server using dhcp?
[10:39] <Jaymac1> oops, wrong room
[11:27] <kinroad> What new features are in Hardy?
[11:27]  * Hobbsee would suggest reading the release notes for the alphas
[11:30] <kinroad> where can i find them?
[11:31] <Hobbsee> ubuntu-devel-announce or ubuntu-announce ML lists, when the alphas release.
[12:57] <_nix_> anyone here... awake?
[12:57] <rsk> not really
[12:57] <pvandewyngaerde> no
[12:57] <pvandewyngaerde> its only 2pm here, not am
[12:58] <_nix_> lol
[12:58] <Hobbsee> no
[12:58] <_nix_> I was about to propose something that would update the fstab uuid things after say a disk format..
[12:59] <ddddd> i always remove them
[13:00] <_nix_> but that would be a hack isn't it? I mean uuids do protect (at least) me from b0rking my setup when I change the /dev/hda /dev/hdc in the hardware
[13:01] <ddddd> i never understood the uuid it is only giving me trouble with grub and several installed OSes
[13:02] <ddddd> so i always remove them on all install from fstab and menu.list
[13:03] <_nix_> oh.. k
[13:03] <_nix_> well yeah it does give some nasty hiccups to the fsck-on-startup too.
[13:04] <ddddd> but it is useful if you have more than 1 hdd ?
[13:04] <ddddd> because i have 1 hdd with 10 partitions and that is it
[13:05] <DanaG> 10 partitions?
[13:05] <ddddd> yes
[13:05] <DanaG> Why?
[13:05] <_nix_> right there.. especially when you're prone to switching master/secondary/master/slave pendemonium
[13:05] <DanaG> (not that I'm saying there's no reason, but I don't see one for myself.)
[13:06] <DanaG> Doesn't the SCSI subsystem have some limit to the number of total partitions?
[13:06] <DanaG> On one drive, I mean.
[13:07] <DanaG> Oh, 15.
[13:07] <_nix_> only 15 partitions with scsi?? that is kinda' limiting I guess
[13:07] <ddddd> 2 primary partitions and 1 logical with the other 8
[13:07] <ddddd> ...extended
[13:09] <DanaG>  sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 < sda5 sda6 >
[13:09] <DanaG> where 4 is the extended itself.
[13:11] <ddddd> sda1 sda2 [sda4(sda 5, 6, 7, ....)]
[13:23] <DanaG> gaack, though that new scrolling patch is cool, it also renders it impossible to middle-drag using twofingertap.
[13:23] <DanaG> ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.
[19:27] <bardyr> will there be a kernel update before the first alpha?
[20:30] <DanaG> Hmm, update-manager is broken.
[20:30] <DanaG> I just use aptitude instead, so no big deal.
[20:31] <Tm_T> just commenting?
[20:32] <DanaG> Yeah.
[20:32] <Tm_T> okie
[20:33] <DanaG> Syntax error in /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeCache.py.
[21:58] <Rudd-O> hi guise
[21:58] <Rudd-O> how to figure out if someone has built pulseaudio 0.9.8 for gutsy?
[22:09] <Tomcat_> Rudd-O: Ask in #ubuntu, this is for hardy.
[22:09] <Rudd-O> they sent me over here
[22:10] <Rudd-O> and they got no answers for me either