| nixternal | does the RC 1 packages have the old kicker look? | 03:24 |
|---|---|---|
| nixternal | s/does/do | 03:25 |
| * Jucato thinks new kicker look... not absolutely sure :) | 03:26 | |
| Hobbsee | what does the old kicker look like? | 03:26 |
| Jucato | like the vista panel... glassy black | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | the one in the -backports packages is blue | 03:27 |
| Jucato | erb.. dark bluish | 03:28 |
| Jucato | http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce_4.0-beta4/kde4.0-beta4.png | 03:28 |
| nixternal | ahh, ok | 03:29 |
| nixternal | err, but that beta4 | 03:29 |
| Jucato | nixternal: yeah just showing Hobbsee what it looked like :) | 03:29 |
| Jucato | before | 03:29 |
| nixternal | freddy just installed rc1 and it is the old one from beta4 | 03:30 |
| Jucato | oh... | 03:30 |
| Jucato | I wasn't absolutely sure :) | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, that's the one that's in the rc1 in -backports | 03:30 |
| Jucato | (although I wouldn't be surprised...) | 03:30 |
| Jucato | ah I see | 03:30 |
| Jucato | glad to be wrong :P | 03:30 |
| nixternal | ahh, that is odd, because that isn't the one in the other rc1 packages for other distros | 03:30 |
| Jucato | perhaps they didn't take it exactly from tags/KDE but maybe an SVN snapshot? | 03:31 |
| Jucato | anyway.. gone :) | 03:31 |
| Jucato | :P | 03:31 |
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| Serega | hi all | 08:28 |
| Serega | does anybody use emacs for source editing? | 08:30 |
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| Tm_T | Serega: sure some people do | 08:43 |
| Serega | Tm_T: what do you use for example? vim tires me quickly and I want to choose the best editor for me | 08:45 |
| Tm_T | Kate | 08:45 |
| Tm_T | or nano, or, sed or, hmmm | 08:45 |
| Serega | oh... | 08:45 |
| Serega | sed :) | 08:45 |
| * stdin used nano or kate | 08:46 | |
| Jucato | kate or vim or kwrite | 08:47 |
| Serega | I wonder why nobody uses kdevelop | 08:47 |
| stdin | because it's mostly for larger projects than the things I mess with | 08:47 |
| Jucato | because I don't need it yet :) | 08:47 |
| Serega | Jucato: where do you run kwrite from? shell? krusader or smth else? | 08:48 |
| * Jucato isn't beyond overloading yet :P | 08:48 | |
| stdin | I have used it, but kate is simpler and does what I need | 08:48 |
| stdin | although I do most coding in nano :) | 08:48 |
| Jucato | Serega: I've set kwrite to be the default editor again. just to prepare myself for kde4.0 | 08:49 |
| Serega | stdin: can it do gcc ouput analyzing and "goto error"? | 08:49 |
| Serega | maybe some plugins needed | 08:49 |
| stdin | Serega: don't think so, nano is just an editor (and I have never needed to use goto) | 08:49 |
| Serega | Jucato: so do you use just dolphin as a shell during development> | 08:49 |
| Serega | & | 08:50 |
| Serega | ? | 08:50 |
| Serega | stdin: it was about kate :) I heard about nano and you made me interested | 08:50 |
| Jucato | Serega: no :P | 08:51 |
| * Jucato can stand using kwrite often, but not d3lphin | 08:51 | |
| Jucato | dolphin I can use :) | 08:51 |
| stdin | just " include "/usr/share/nano/c.nanorc" " in your ~/.nanorc | 08:51 |
| Serega | thanks, I'll try | 08:52 |
| Serega | one another issue | 08:52 |
| Serega | do we have some utility to monitor state of Qt application? something like the Spy for windows | 08:52 |
| stdin | asking "do we have X, like Y for windows" is pointless to me, I don't use windows so I don't know what "Y" does | 08:54 |
| Jucato | #qt people might be of help... | 08:54 |
| Serega | oh, sorry | 08:54 |
| stdin | the only time I use windows is to fix it for my parents :p | 08:55 |
| Serega | some shit happens with kaffeine video widget after engine reloading and it is really hard to track it's state | 08:55 |
| Serega | stdin: :) | 08:55 |
| Tm_T | meh | 09:34 |
| Serega | IT RELOADS!!! | 09:55 |
| Riddell | awooga | 09:55 |
| Riddell | how did you do that Serega? | 09:55 |
| Serega | I can't believe, so little thing: no additional show() for player widget. So first time it is shown with the main->show() but secondtime it is left hidden | 09:56 |
| * Serega dences | 09:56 | |
| Serega | *dances | 09:57 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: can you give back extragear-plasma in hardy please | 10:29 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: given back | 10:32 |
| Riddell | still half the gutsy ones to build alas | 10:33 |
| Hobbsee | because of all the extra backported stuff? | 10:33 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: you should also backport exaile and qca2 | 10:33 |
| Riddell | why? | 10:33 |
| Riddell | what's exaile? | 10:33 |
| Hobbsee | music player. like amarok | 10:33 |
| Hobbsee | because i cant be bothered filing a bug to backport it myself ;P | 10:34 |
| Tm_T | "GTK clone of Amarok" I think it calls itself | 10:34 |
| Hobbsee | qca2, obviously, so that people can use the latest to build kde4 stuff | 10:34 |
| Serega | are attachments allowed in maillist? | 11:04 |
| Tm_T | should be | 11:04 |
| * _buz wonders why a gtk clone of amarok is relevant to kubuntu :P | 11:11 | |
| Tm_T | no idea | 11:16 |
| Hobbsee | _buz: i'ts not, but i can't backport. | 11:25 |
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| apachelogger_ | jpatrick: ahoy | 13:55 |
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| jpatrick | apachelogger: hi | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | jpatrick: I'm writing my motu application right now :D | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | <-- totally jumpy | 13:56 |
| jpatrick | apachelogger: good luck, I have to go to school right now :( | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | oh, have fun :P | 13:56 |
| jpatrick | history of music and spanish.. you're joking :P | 13:57 |
| _buz | jpatrick: did you try to build the luks kio patch? failed for me (but that may just be my inability to deal with dpkg-buildpackage) | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | jpatrick: histroy... of music? -.- | 13:58 |
| jpatrick | _buz: I think Riddell had to fix it up a bit | 13:58 |
| * apachelogger doesn't even like the history with war and stuff all that much | 13:58 | |
| jpatrick | apachelogger: teach goes on and on about offtopic-stuff | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | lol | 13:59 |
| _buz | jpatrick: so he built it? | 13:59 |
| jpatrick | _buz: I'll package the patch from bugs.kde asap and feed you the package | 13:59 |
| jpatrick | er.. give you | 13:59 |
| _buz | oh nice, i'll test it | 13:59 |
| _buz | never mind, i have eaten worse :P | 13:59 |
| jpatrick | later | 14:00 |
| Tonio_ | hi there | 14:03 |
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| Riddell | _buz: fixed version should be in kdebase in hardy now | 14:38 |
| Riddell | nixternal: do you think a 10th anniversary of kde e.v. would be an interesting story? | 14:39 |
| DaSkreech | Anyone got blotted? | 14:40 |
| Riddell | whit? | 14:41 |
| * DaSkreech grins. never mind :) | 14:42 | |
| _buz | Riddell: can i install that on gutsy? | 14:50 |
| _buz | might as well try it :) | 14:50 |
| Riddell | _buz: you can download the source https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/kdebase/4:3.5.8-1ubuntu2 | 14:50 |
| _buz | /usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackage: line 201: debian/rules: Permission denied | 14:58 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 15:13 |
| Riddell | _buz: try debuild? | 15:14 |
| _buz | will try | 15:16 |
| _buz | debuild: fatal error at line 1247 | 15:37 |
| _buz | (that is after applying the diff by hand) | 15:37 |
| Riddell | more context needed | 15:40 |
| _buz | http://pastebin.ca/798067 | 15:43 |
| _buz | maybe i do need to run it with sudo instead of fakeroot? | 15:44 |
| _buz | actually no | 15:44 |
| _buz | lmsensors seems not to match | 15:44 |
| Riddell | hrm, no idea what's caused that | 15:45 |
| Riddell | why did you apply the diff by hand? | 15:46 |
| _buz | how would it otherwise be applied? | 15:46 |
| _buz | i cant very well use apt-get source to get the sources from launchpad | 15:46 |
| Riddell | debuild will apply it | 15:47 |
| Riddell | wget sources from launchpad; dpkg-source -x *dsc; cd kdebase-<tab>; debuild | 15:48 |
| _buz | lets see | 15:49 |
| _buz | still fails | 15:57 |
| _buz | at the same exact point | 15:57 |
| Riddell | maybe it doesn't like gutsy | 15:58 |
| Riddell | you can apt-get source kdebase in gutsy and copy the patch over | 15:58 |
| _buz | might try that tonight | 16:00 |
| seele | is anyone really familiar with adept and the restricted manager? i need some info/help on understanding what its supposed to do and how it works with everything else | 16:07 |
| Riddell | seele: mhb wrote restircted-manager-kde | 16:08 |
| Riddell | adept-batch is just called to install some packages | 16:09 |
| seele | Riddell: ok, ill ping him when he's around then | 16:12 |
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| mhb | seele: who? | 16:17 |
| mhb | :o) | 16:17 |
| mhb | anyone on gutsy? | 18:00 |
| mhb | err... | 18:01 |
| mhb | hardy | 18:01 |
| mhb | I have started to notice that I cannot chdir to directories that have whitespaces in them | 18:01 |
| jpatrick | _buz: this patch is going to take a while | 18:03 |
| ScottK | mhb: You have to quote the directory name if you're in Konsole | 18:06 |
| DaSkreech | You can't escape the white spaces? | 18:06 |
| ScottK | Dunno. Never tried that. | 18:09 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | out of couriosity, why is swfmill not in kubuntu packages | 18:09 |
| _buz | no hurry | 18:17 |
| ScottK | CPrgmSwR2: Unless it's in Debian, the probably answer is no one packaged it. | 18:19 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | oh | 18:19 |
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| mhb | ScottK: it simply does not work anymore | 19:02 |
| mhb | not in konsole, not in gnome-terminal...nowhere | 19:02 |
| ScottK | Hmmm. | 19:02 |
| * ScottK tries it. | 19:02 | |
| mhb | I have got a folder named Virtual Machines and I cannot get there | 19:02 |
| ScottK | mhb: Works here just fine. | 19:04 |
| ScottK | This is on Gutsy. It's not clear which you were on. | 19:04 |
| mhb | martin@blackbook:~$ cd Virtual\ Machines/ | 19:04 |
| mhb | bash: cd: Virtual: No such file or directory | 19:04 |
| mhb | Hardy | 19:04 |
| * ScottK logs into the chroot | 19:05 | |
| CPrgmSwR2 | mhb what about cd Virtua* | 19:05 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | or cd "Virtual Machines" | 19:05 |
| mhb | nothing, both of them | 19:06 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | mhb: can you do #ls -la into pastebin | 19:06 |
| mhb | sure | 19:07 |
| mhb | http://pastebin.ca/798303 | 19:08 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | mhb: what does # cd * do? | 19:10 |
| ScottK | mhb: I'm updating my chroot first, so it'll be a little bit. | 19:11 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | mhb: does this give you the same error? # cd * | 19:12 |
| mhb | CPrgmSwR2: same thing | 19:12 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | okay, so then that error is not correct | 19:12 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | mhb: I have never seen anything like that | 19:14 |
| mhb | me neither | 19:15 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | especially since cd * doesn't work and its the only folder/file in that directory | 19:16 |
| mhb | I hate when beta-testing breaks my system :o) | 19:16 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | I am suprized that it broke cd though | 19:16 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: run it in a VM.. | 19:17 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | mhb: what does this give you #cat Virtual* | 19:17 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: oh sure, I could cd to the Virtual Machines dir and launch it there... wait | 19:18 |
| mhb | :o) | 19:18 |
| mhb | cat: Virtual Machines: Is a directory | 19:18 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | wow that implies cd is broken | 19:19 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: ermm,never mind, I must have gotten here late XD | 19:19 |
| ScottK | mhb: Works just fine in my Hardy chroot. | 19:19 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | mhb: how about rename the folder with #mv Virtual* VirtualMachine | 19:20 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | not sure if that will screw more things up | 19:20 |
| mhb | that works | 19:21 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | mhb: now can you cd to the directory | 19:21 |
| mhb | yeah :o( wicked error | 19:22 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | weird | 19:22 |
| mhb | thanks | 19:22 |
| CPrgmSwR2 | your welcome | 19:22 |
| * CPrgmSwR2 wonders what happens if you rename it back | 19:23 | |
| CPrgmSwR2 | mhb: your welcome | 19:24 |
| * DaSkreech tips CPrgmSwR2 into #kdegames :-) | 19:39 | |
| nixternal_ | Riddell: would the 10th anniversary include a cake? sounds interesting to me | 19:51 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: got reply from upstream, flags are the same that are used in KTorrent | 20:04 |
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| nixternal_ | oh man, Gnome has some serious mudslinging going on...hope they have prepared for the FUD train to leave the station | 20:12 |
| DaSkreech_ | whats going on? | 20:12 |
| DaSkreech_ | nixternal_: The cake is not real | 20:12 |
| nixternal_ | read og's blog post | 20:13 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: mm, they're removed from debian I'm pretty sure, we /should/ remove them too but often don't bother | 20:15 |
| Riddell | however, should be ok so long as you put it in the copyright file | 20:15 |
| Riddell | ** testers needed http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/cds/kubuntu-kde4-20071126.iso | 20:16 |
| Riddell | stdin: fancy testing? it's largely your work :) | 20:16 |
| ScottK | nixternal_: Link? | 20:16 |
| * _buz fetches and tests in kde | 20:16 | |
| _buz | uuhm no, virtualbox :) | 20:16 |
| DaSkreech_ | nixternal_: Who? | 20:17 |
| Riddell | nixternal_: forwarded e-mail | 20:23 |
| nixternal_ | roger | 20:23 |
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| Riddell | _buz: are you talking to me about virtualbox? presumably it runs isos? | 20:23 |
| nixternal | gotta get rid of that tail | 20:23 |
| _buz | afaik it does | 20:24 |
| DaSkreech_ | nixternal: yes? | 20:24 |
| _buz | i know kvm and qemu do, so virtualbox probably does so too | 20:24 |
| nixternal | DaSkreech_: yes what? | 20:24 |
| nixternal | derr, I said roger again | 20:24 |
| DaSkreech_ | nixternal: you called? | 20:24 |
| DaSkreech_ | nixternal: Whi is og? | 20:24 |
| nixternal | Og Maciel | 20:25 |
| Riddell | is that Og the KDE user? :) | 20:25 |
| nixternal | hehe, Riddell I have converted him! | 20:25 |
| nixternal | he is going for the Gnome board while using KDE! I smell our chance for infiltration :p | 20:25 |
| _buz | boy that murray guy sure has a nice rant going on there | 20:26 |
| nixternal | I need the AOL "You've Got Mail" wav file...I want people to look at me strange with all of the stickers I have on my laptop | 20:26 |
| nixternal | Riddell: top secret, but feel free to turn it into a story...that is to funny | 20:27 |
| rbrunhuber | nixternal : try this http://newmail.monsterserve.com/keepout/misc/gotmail00.wav | 20:28 |
| nixternal | how much does it cost to be a supporting member? I would be interested..but if Shuttleworth is on the list, something tells me that I don't have enough in my piggy bank :) | 20:28 |
| rbrunhuber | nixternal : do not know about license issues though | 20:28 |
| nixternal | rbrunhuber: oh lord that was disgusting....the funny thing is it played in amarok, and when it finished went right into Led Zeppelin's Communication Breakdown :) | 20:29 |
| nixternal | what are the damn odds on that one | 20:29 |
| Riddell | nixternal: http://ev.kde.org/getinvolved/supporting-members.php 100euro | 20:30 |
| Riddell | of course you could become a normal member before too long too | 20:30 |
| nixternal | groovy | 20:31 |
| DaSkreech_ | nixternal: Ok strange guy | 20:33 |
| DaSkreech_ | he starts out saying I've been knee deep in KDE for 5 years nowthen later on It's been years since I've really used KDE | 20:34 |
| DaSkreech_ | Conflicted much? | 20:34 |
| nixternal | knee deep as in everyone around him uses/used kde | 20:34 |
| DaSkreech_ | ha ha | 20:36 |
| DaSkreech_ | never mind it was 5 days | 20:36 |
| DaSkreech_ | I read that thrice and read it wrong | 20:36 |
| _buz | must be a good place where all people use kde | 20:40 |
| * apachelogger just sent his motu application | 20:47 | |
| DaSkreech_ | nixternal: Is that stuff true? | 20:48 |
| ScottK | Which stuff? | 20:51 |
| _buz | Riddell: the gradient in the kde4live window title bar is making it near impossible to actually read whole of the title | 20:51 |
| _buz | and window decoration looks somehow broken for me | 20:52 |
| Riddell | _buz: it's a matter of some debate in KDE 4 land | 20:52 |
| _buz | parts of the window have a black bar, other parts of the same window do not | 20:53 |
| Riddell | the developer has designed it assuming everyone has composite shadows on | 20:53 |
| Riddell | and everyone else thinks that's unacceptable in a default | 20:53 |
| _buz | composite shadows dont even work on my machine (never mind that compiz does a great job in kde3) | 20:53 |
| DaSkreech_ | ScottK: the pyschosis of one of the GNOME members | 20:54 |
| * ScottK is still hoping for a link to read all about it. | 20:54 | |
| _buz | ScottK: http://www.murrayc.com/blog/permalink/2007/11/26/gnome-board-2007-candidates-the-bad/ | 20:55 |
| ScottK | _buz: Thanks | 20:56 |
| DaSkreech_ | ScottK: Sorry logged in from Vista so I have WONDERFUL performance from insane mind blowing activities like clicking a mouse, typing, or receiving a packet from the internet! | 20:59 |
| DaSkreech_ | please see with me if it takes me 10 minutes to an hour to see a message you hve sent and i respond | 20:59 |
| ScottK | Heh | 21:00 |
| ScottK | Will it sounds like that guy would get along well with Kmos. | 21:00 |
| DaSkreech | OK from Kubuntu now | 21:05 |
| DaSkreech | much better :) | 21:05 |
| DaSkreech | Argh | 21:08 |
| DaSkreech | now I have to go home | 21:08 |
| DaSkreech | :( | 21:08 |
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| Jucato | oh boy... :/ | 22:48 |
| jpatrick | sup? | 22:49 |
| Jucato | waking up to GNOME news :/ | 22:49 |
| Jucato | poor guys | 22:49 |
| Jucato | good morning/evening! :) | 22:49 |
| jpatrick | ..for us at least | 22:50 |
| Jucato | is it ok to test the kde4 iso in vbox only? I don't think I have blank CD's to spare | 22:50 |
| Riddell | Jucato: yeah, that's fine | 22:52 |
| Jucato | cool! now to just wait :/ | 22:53 |
| Jucato | (it's the waiting that kills...) | 22:53 |
| yuriy | kde4 iso? | 23:16 |
| Jucato | [04:16] <Riddell> ** testers needed http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/cds/kubuntu-kde4-20071126.iso | 23:16 |
| Jucato | yay 3 hours to go to finish downloading it :) | 23:16 |
| yuriy | downloading :) ETA 11 minutes | 23:17 |
| Jucato | O.o | 23:17 |
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