/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/11/26/#kubuntu.txt

tekteen	u do not have a network card?	00:00
ToddEDM	i do.. its a linksys WMP54G	00:00
tekteen	no, wired	00:00
ToddEDM	oh , nope	00:01
BanisterKelly	Do I need to restart samba?	00:01
tekteen	ok	00:01
tekteen	if you want I will try to google	00:01
ToddEDM	please	00:01
tekteen	one sec	00:01
Murchadh	BanisterKelly: /etc/init.d/samba restart	00:02
BanisterKelly	Thank you	00:02
Murchadh	BanisterKelly: NP, hope you get it working.	00:02
BanisterKelly	I tried to access the shared folder and its asking for a password.	00:03
BanisterKelly	\\Optiplex\IPC$	00:04
BanisterKelly	At least it trying. lol	00:04
ardchoille	jagcorvair: Linux experts?	00:05
tekteen	ToddEDM: quick question: Does it ask if you want to install from "a local folder or the internet"?	00:05
ardchoille	jagcorvair: afaik, this channel is full of them. Have you tried the ubuntu forums?	00:06
Murchadh	BanisterKelly: Check in the smb.conf file under Authentication if there is a ; in front of security = user. If not add it, restart samba and try again.	00:06
BanisterKelly	Okay.	00:07
ToddEDM	no tekteen	00:07
tekteen	ok	00:07
BanisterKelly	I really appreciate your help and putting up with me being new to this stuff.	00:07
jagcorvair	ardchoille: I have surfed the infinite waves of the net	00:07
tekteen	I can not believe you have no wired network	00:07
ToddEDM	lol	00:07
jagcorvair	ardchoille: I think the last thing left for me to do is to physically take it to a Linux tech for further inspection	00:08
ToddEDM	i could move my computer downstairs	00:08
ToddEDM	lol	00:08
ToddEDM	not really	00:08
BanisterKelly	Yes there is.	00:08
BanisterKelly	; Security = User	00:08
BanisterKelly	; security = user	00:08
tekteen	ToddEDM: does it say what "package" it could not download?	00:09
ardchoille	jagcorvair: What exactly is the problem?	00:09
Murchadh	BanisterKelly: Again, not a secure solution, I'd advise reading up on samba if you plan to have it running long term. Samba should be hardened by creating users on the linux machine for all people who are going to access the shares.	00:09
Murchadh	BanisterKelly: What version of Kubuntu are you using?	00:09
BanisterKelly	7.10	00:09
BanisterKelly	Live CD install	00:10
jagcorvair	ardchoille: For the life of me, I cannot figure out the DMA issue. Kaffeine is quite choppy.	00:10
ToddEDM	it says "The Software Source for the package bcm43xx-fwcutter is not enabled" when i try to enable the restricted driver	00:10
BanisterKelly	Been using for the past 2-3 days.	00:10
tekteen	!info bcm43xx-fwcutter	00:10
ubotu	bcm43xx-fwcutter: Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:006-3 (gutsy), package size 25 kB, installed size 116 kB	00:10
BanisterKelly	Not a bad OS just have to get used to it.	00:10
draik	ardchoille: Ok, had to disconnect from the net on friend's computer	00:10
tekteen	ok	00:10
BanisterKelly	I will admit has some great software selections	00:11
tekteen	one sec	00:11
ToddEDM	k	00:11
darkness_s	ToodEDM, open up adept _manager	00:11
ToddEDM	its open	00:11
darkness_s	go to adept--manage repositories	00:11
ToddEDM	ok	00:11
BanisterKelly	Networking Linux/Windows is just a temporary thing until I can get a DVD drive for the other PC.	00:12
BanisterKelly	About a week.	00:12
tekteen	32 or 64 bit?	00:12
ToddEDM	32	00:12
Murchadh	BanisterKelly: You may need to add the Workgroup name to the start of the smb.conf file.	00:12
tekteen	ToddEDM: first download this "http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/bcm43xx-fwcutter_006-3_i386.deb"	00:13
darkness_s	ToddEDM: then check all the boxes in the Software Kubuntu tab.	00:13
ardchoille	draik: tbh, I would have given up on that a long time ago and either used another computer or replaced that drive.	00:13
tekteen	darkness_s: he has no wired network	00:13
darkness_s	tekteen: oh	00:13
darkness_s	ok	00:13
draik	ardchoille: His computer and I bought the drive not too long ago. I know it's not bad hardware, but I would like a new set of eyes of this "mission"	00:14
darkness_s	ToddEDM: listen to tekteen	00:14
tekteen	ToddEDM: then move it to the other computer (usb drive, cd, ect)	00:14
darkness_s	:)	00:14
tekteen	:-)	00:14
tekteen	lol	00:14
BanisterKelly	What was the restart command?	00:14
darkness_s	. /etc/init.d/samba restart	00:15
BanisterKelly	Thank you	00:15
ToddEDM	ok i got it downloaded, i will be back,kids need me for a sec	00:15
tekteen	tell me when u r back	00:15
moope2	how do I stop alsa loading on boot?	00:15
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tekteen	ToddEDM: u back?	00:19
BanisterKelly	This is as bas as trying to have 98 access XP. lol	00:19
BanisterKelly	as bad	00:19
scrubb2000	Hello?	00:23
tekteen	hello	00:23
scrubb2000	I always like to check for signs of life before asking a question. =)	00:23
tekteen	ok	00:23
scrubb2000	Do you know what module(s) are needed to use a TV card? (Happauge PVR150)	00:24
scrubb2000	Or how can I check to see if linux already has it configured?	00:24
tekteen	I forgot. I can look it up	00:24
scrubb2000	Where does one look that up?	00:25
tekteen	google	00:25
scrubb2000	Oh.	00:25
* scrubb2000 smacks forehead		00:25
tekteen	:-)	00:25
scrubb2000	I just found linuxtv.org...I bet that'll be helpful. heh heh	00:26
tekteen	it is called ivti	00:26
tekteen	itvt*	00:26
tekteen	ivtv*	00:27
tekteen	I have gone instane	00:27
tekteen	it is called ivtv	00:27
draik	Wow... so many broken keyboards today.	00:27
tekteen	ToddEDM: u back?	00:28
Murchadh	BanisterKelly: On the Windows PC, try giving the linux username and password that you normally logon to the kubuntu machine with. Other than that you may need to create a user on the kubuntu machine with the same username and password as the Windows PC. I gotta go for a while. If it's still giving you problems have a good read of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605. Good luck with it. Persevere, kubuntu rocks!	00:30
ToddEDM	yep, i just got it on my ipod shuffle(that went through the wash) and its installing on the desktop machine	00:30
ToddEDM	the old shuffle is good only for a USBstick now	00:31
tekteen	lol	00:31
tekteen	my usb stick has gone through wash and dry... TWICE	00:31
tekteen	I am 14 and leave stuff in my pockets	00:32
ToddEDM	lol	00:32
tekteen	the dryer is a good place to find pencils	00:32
crazy6	hrm, booting with "splash" makes X not work properly (black screen)	00:32
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ToddEDM	sticks go good through the wash, but this ipod did not	00:32
scrubb2000	Washing it shouldn't be a problem since it's nonvolatile.	00:32
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scrubb2000	Drying is more dicey...static discharge could kill it easily.	00:33
tekteen	ToddEDM: So... Does the wireless work?	00:33
ToddEDM	it was free with a cell phone anyways	00:33
ToddEDM	hold on a sec	00:33
ToddEDM	ok i went to enable the restricted driver.....	00:34
ToddEDM	now it wants me to locate the file, or download from internet	00:35
tekteen	does it just work. without that	00:36
stdin	tekteen: the bcm43xx-fwcutter needs to download the firmware from the net to install it (or install from a local file)	00:36
ToddEDM	maybe i should restart ?	00:36
tekteen	stdin: he install a deb of it	00:36
tekteen	yes	00:36
ToddEDM	yes i installed the deb	00:36
tekteen	try it	00:36
stdin	tekteen: yea, the deb install script downloads the file	00:36
tekteen	restart	00:36
tekteen	ok	00:37
tekteen	ToddEDM: nm	00:37
scrubb2000	This is weird.	00:37
ToddEDM	ok its restarting	00:37
ToddEDM	lol	00:37
stdin	tekteen, ToddEDM: it needs http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o	00:37
scrubb2000	Linux seems to see my TV card is there, the firmware is present, the modules are loaded, but /dev/dvb/adapter* doesn't exist...	00:37
tekteen	ty stdin	00:37
scrubb2000	Anyone have any idea why, or how I can create it?	00:38
ciacon	hi all	00:39
tekteen	hi	00:39
flaccid	brb	00:40
ciacon	I have just installed my kubutu (again ;-( ) and wanted to ask, what the meta-packages is called, that includes all the restricted formats, is called...	00:40
stdin	ciacon: kubuntu-restricted-extras	00:41
Dragnslcr	Yeah, KDE4 doesn't seem to quite ready yet	00:41
* stdin doesn't recall anyone saying KDE4 was ready		00:41
ToddEDM	restricted driver IN USE!	00:42
tekteen	YES!	00:42
tekteen	so have you tested it?	00:42
Dragnslcr	I didn't quite expect glaring bugs though	00:42
ToddEDM	just did..... cant get www.google up	00:42
Dragnslcr	Like the system tray showing up in the middle of the screen and apparently not movable	00:43
stdin	ToddEDM: have you activated the network, with network manager?	00:43
scrubb2000	Can anyone help me with my TV card?	00:43
stdin	Dragnslcr: yeah, it's not ready yet ;)	00:43
Dragnslcr	Hehe	00:43
ToddEDM	stdin: im trying , not sure how though	00:44
Dragnslcr	And I really hope that the KDE3-style K menu will be available	00:44
stdin	ToddEDM: you should just be able to right-click the icon in the system tray and choose the network to connect to	00:44
Dragnslcr	Looks very promising though. Looking forward to the final release	00:44
stdin	Dragonath: I'm sure someone will come up with a kde3 style clone	00:45
ToddEDM	when i single left click it, i get NO ACTIVE DEVICE	00:45
tekteen	ToddEDM: right click	00:45
scrubb2000	Anybody? TV card help? Please :(	00:45
stdin	ToddEDM: you may have to reboot after getting the driver...	00:46
ToddEDM	i see no networks	00:46
Dragnslcr	Yeah, I heard that creating desktop and panel widgets is supposed to be almost-painfully easy in KDE4	00:46
tekteen	reboot	00:46
ToddEDM	ok stdin i will	00:46
ToddEDM	and i gotta go check out the kids gingerbread house	00:46
ToddEDM	brb	00:46
stdin	scrubb2000: if no one answers, it generally means no one knows. be patient and ask again in a while. you can also ask in #ubuntu seeing as it's not Kubuntu specific	00:46
stdin	ooh, too impatient...	00:47
scrubb2000	whoops	00:47
scrubb2000	That's the last time I click a button I don't know what it does...	00:47
stdin	scrubb2000: you just missed me say "if no one answers, it generally means no one knows. be patient and ask again in a while. you can also ask in #ubuntu seeing as it's not Kubuntu specific"	00:47
Dragnslcr	I vaguely recall that KControl was supposed to be the standard instead of System Settings. Is that true, or am I imagining stuff again?	00:47
stdin	Dragnslcr: no, other way around. kcontrol got broken horrible in the port so it was mostly abandoned	00:48
Dragnslcr	Ah	00:48
Dragnslcr	Guess I should stop using KControl then	00:48
stdin	yep :p	00:49
Dragnslcr	Will the new System Settings have a spot for Autostart apps? That seems like the only real difference between the two	00:49
stdin	maybe, not all the modules are finished (and integrated) get	00:50
Dragnslcr	Know offhand if there's an RC2 planned, or are they just going with a release and then fixing stuff that comes up in 4.0.1+?	00:53
Dragnslcr	Or I can just read the schedule notes	00:53
stdin	http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule <	00:53
Dragnslcr	Yeah, I asked before I read the details for the 4.0.1 release	00:54
ToddEDM	it is working guys	00:54
Dragnslcr	That's what I get for only reading the table of contents	00:55
ToddEDM	thanks for being so patient with me!	00:55
pjeide	hmm.. I just installed Mplayer and also w32codecs, but I am still unable to play any divx movies	00:55
tekteen	ToddEDM: cool	00:55
pjeide	the window that is supposed to contain the movie is just distorted as if the codec isn't installed... I can hear the audio in the background, and I have the video output set to xv/X11 in Mplayer	00:56
pjeide	and there was no hitch installing w32codecs	00:56
pjeide	I can play other video, just not divx video	00:57
pjeide	oh shoot.. I COULD play other video. now I cannot	00:57
pjeide	now video is broken in both Mplayer and Kaffeine	00:59
pjeide	all formats	00:59
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pjeide	Totem, Mplayer and Kaffeine all produce a box of distorted color bars	01:01
pjeide	what is the best way to reinstall all video codecs...?	01:01
steve_n	hi, i am a new linux user, i need some help on Kubuntu 7.10 installation	01:03
Dragnslcr	pjeide- I've gotten that problem a few times. I'm not quite sure what causes it (might be related to Compiz), but restarting the X server fixes it	01:04
pjeide	Dragnslcr: thanks	01:04
pjeide	I'll give it a shot	01:04
steve_n	i recently install Kubuntu, all installation is fine. After that it prompted me for 'Distribution Upgrade' which stuck at zero percent for hours. Not sure what really went wrong	01:05
tekteen	steve_n: I think you were already at the newest version	01:06
tekteen	steve: open a konsole and type "sudo apt-get update" then the enter key	01:07
Dragnslcr	steve_n- there was a bug in Adept where it would show a new version being available after a 7.10 install	01:07
steve_n	ok. if i close the Distribution Upgrade now, my pc can't book into Kubuntu anymore	01:09
steve_n	last night, i close it and i had to reinstall Kubuntu again	01:09
steve_n	Dragnslcr, should just ignore the Adept updates and use 'sudo apt-get update' command instead to get all the latest fixes for Kubuntu gutsy ?	01:11
steve_n	is there anyway that i can install Kubuntu without reformatting the harddisk ?	01:12
Dragnslcr	You should only have to format the system partition. This is why it's a good idea to make /home its own partition	01:14
steve_n	Dragnslcr : normally for system partition, how much space would be require ?	01:15
Dragnslcr	How big is the hard drive?	01:16
steve_n	80 GB	01:16
steve_n	i had another 40 GB as the second hard drive	01:16
Dragnslcr	Probably 10 GB should work	01:16
Dragnslcr	I think 20 GB is normal for larger disks	01:17
steve_n	if i close the Distribution upgrade, is there a way to recover without re-installing ?	01:17
Dragnslcr	I have 50 GB on / for some bizarre reason. Probably ignorance on my part	01:17
Dragnslcr	I dunno offhand. You can try using the recovery mode option in Grub	01:17
steve_n	ok. would try that.	01:19
steve_n	if i format the hard disk in Kubuntu, am I allowed to create folder on it ? I tried previously and had authority issues	01:20
steve_n	not sure what went wrong, it doesn't allowed me to create any folder	01:20
Dragnslcr	Depends where. Usually only root can create directories outside of your home directory	01:20
steve_n	how do i change to root ? am i the administrator by default and should have access to all the drive folder creation authority ?	01:21
Dragnslcr	!sudo	01:22
ubotu	sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	01:22
Dragnslcr	Should probably do a bit of reading on sudo	01:22
steve_n	ok. would do that :)	01:23
scrubb2000	!xine	01:24
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	01:24
draik	!info xine \| scrubb2000	01:26
ubotu	scrubb2000: Package xine does not exist in gutsy	01:26
draik	Does anyone here play Uplink?	01:27
steve_n	anyone, is ubuntu better or kubuntu better ? or both are the same cause one is running in Gnone and another one running in KDE ?	01:27
draik	steve_n: Please don't start a flame war	01:27
steve_n	oops..sorry	01:28
steve_n	i didnt mean to	01:28
pjeide	steve_n: the difference is gnome vs kde	01:29
draik	steve_n: K/Ubuntu is preference only. period.	01:29
steve_n	ok..thanks guys :)	01:29
K`zan	Just installed 7.1 and during updates it blew out and upon installing anything so far I get this:	01:31
K`zan	There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages of the comit would break packages. Latest was trying to install xchat. Any thoughts appreciated!	01:32
steve_n	K`zan : i had also just installed 7.1 yesterday. I also faced the same problem as you. I think could be some flaws in Adept. I am still very new to Kubuntu so i could be wrong.	01:35
ardchoille	aptitude cough	01:35
xniper	Hello. I'm trying to install kubuntu on my desktop and upon loading the live CD I'm getting an error of "Frequency Over Ragne". So I went to the CLI and changed the HorizSync and VertRefresh. But as I did startx again, I'm now getting this error: AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable. Can anyone help?	01:36
K`zan	steve_n: Thanks, looks like I head back to deb4 :-/. Been fighting with strangeness on this all day today.	01:40
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K`zan	Dunno which is broken, lots of packages (uncluding update stuff) or adept.	01:40
K`zan	At any rate I am tired so perhaps I'll try something else later.	01:42
K`zan	Thanks folks!	01:42
rickdog	hey, anybody had any freeze-up problems after being idle for some time, on a laptop, with kubuntu 7.10?	01:43
jughead	rickdog, I left my desktop on for 4-5 days and it locked up at some point. I had to do a hard reset	01:44
rickdog	well this is related to the powersaving mode i think and it happens after like 45 minutes, have to turn off laptop with power button	01:45
neighborlee	ahhh	01:45
neighborlee	wth!!	01:45
neighborlee	rickdog, ahh another rick in here causing me heeeeeadaches	01:45
neighborlee	dain I h ate th at	01:45
neighborlee	:)anyway	01:46
steve_n	does anyone faced a problem with Kubuntu restart ? I restarted Kubuntu and i had to do a physical reset of my pc	01:46
neighborlee	rickdog, is a known buntu problem atm I think.ie: acpi issues in latest release	01:46
rickdog	acpi? any ideas on how to tweak it?	01:48
ryan-c	is there any way to keep aRts from lagging?	01:52
neighborlee	ryan-c, lagging ?	01:54
substancev	hey all. I wanted to come in here and say that i found the fix for the issues i have been having with kubuntu and my hp pavilion laptop. The NVIDIA drivers was the cause of the problems and not allowing me to enter into gui mode. the fix is simply edit (sudo nano /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common) and change DISABLED_MODULES="" to DISABLED_MODULES="nv". thanks all and sorry to leave most of you mind boggled	01:55
substancev	basically you can install the nvidia linux drivers and it will work.. until you reboot and your back at square one	01:56
substancev	this will fix that	01:56
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excoder	Hello. I'm trying to install kubuntu on my desktop and upon loading the live CD I'm getting an error of "Frequency Over Ragne". So I went to the CLI and changed the HorizSync and VertRefresh. But as I did startx again, I'm now getting this error: AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable. Can anyone help?	02:00
Zombocom	my xserver is acting up so I'm in console, what's the command to configure the X server?	02:00
Zombocom	sudo xsomething-something xorg-xserver or whatever	02:01
neighborlee	Zombocom, I used to know ;)..dpkg something or other LOL	02:01
neighborlee	I rarely have had to do it	02:01
Zombocom	I like to mess with settings	02:02
neighborlee	:))	02:02
Zombocom	so I told it stuff about a primary and secondary monitor	02:02
Zombocom	and it freaked out	02:02
neighborlee	Zombocom, naughty	02:02
Zombocom	lol thanks neighborlee	02:02
nosrednaekim	Zombocom: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"	02:02
Zombocom	thank you nosrednaekim	02:02
neighborlee	Zombocom, sudo dpkg --reconfigure xorg-server ? ;00	02:02
neighborlee	hm	02:03
nosrednaekim	neighborlee: close!	02:03
neighborlee	excoder, id go back to a safed file and start over .	02:04
ubuntu__	g	02:04
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excoder	neighborlee, what do you mean by safed file?	02:04
neighborlee	well I was sorta close o_0	02:04
neighborlee	saved < sorry	02:05
excoder	oh okay. but I'm trying to boot from the CD. I'm not able to get to the GUI interface coz it's saying Frequency Ove Range.	02:05
nosrednaekim	excoder: use the safe video mode	02:06
excoder	nosrednaekim, you mean the second option on the Menu? That doesn't work either.	02:10
excoder	nosrednaekim, I also tried the vga=771 noapic nolapic and doesnt work too.	02:10
neighborlee	excoder, if not go into that xorg file and only chaneg the line that mentions your horz/vert refresh rates	02:10
nosrednaekim	ah	02:10
nosrednaekim	ex	02:11
nosrednaekim	excoder: is this an installed system?	02:11
neighborlee	excoder, making sure its right for your monitor of course..check your m anual if you need to	02:11
excoder	neighborlee, I already did that and it worked. Frequency was fixed. Now my problem is when i do "startx" I'm now getting a different error: AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable	02:11
excoder	nosrednaekim, it's a fresh install. I'm still going to install it.	02:12
neighborlee	?	02:12
nosrednaekim	excoder: this still a live cd>	02:13
excoder	nosrednaekim, I'm trying to run the live cd. So that I can try it out first before I install.	02:14
excoder	neighborlee, how do I restart X from the command line?	02:14
neighborlee	excoder, you dont need startx first off all...ctrl-alt-backspace should work fine I thinik	02:15
nosrednaekim	excoder: "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"	02:15
excoder	neighborlee, oh okay, I'll try that.	02:15
excoder	nosrednaekim, cool, thanks.. I'll be trying that.	02:15
derkles	im a new kde user,gnome ex-pat. how do i enable desktop-effects?	02:16
* excoder BRB guys, I'll try a few things.		02:16
nosrednaekim	!compiz	02:17
ubotu	Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	02:17
pjeide	derkles, I use a package called compiz for my effects.. I am not sure about built-in KDE effects	02:17
derkles	i used compiz for gnome	02:17
derkles	i guess I need to know where I set an app to start after login?	02:18
nosrednaekim	!autostart	02:18
ubotu	To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.	02:18
derkles	thanks nosrednaekim	02:18
ryan-c	the responmsoe time for aRtsd is awful, watching movies with it is unbreable	02:26
excoder	nosrednaekim I tried the command and after that the screen just went blank.	02:28
excoder	neighborlee ctrl alt backspace don't work.	02:29
* HeLLoMoTo TODO GRATIS PARA TU MOVIL http://www.canal-moviles.es		02:29
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excoder	anyone out there?	02:37
flaccid	nope	02:38
nosrednaekim	excoder: you can go back to the terminal with "ctrl+ alt+ f2"	02:42
nosrednaekim	or f1	02:42
excoder	nosrednaekim yeah I'm there. I tried typing the command you gave. It showed the blue desktop with a mousepointer for some time and went black again.	02:45
pedro	Hola a todos, soy nuevo usando linux como SO y tengo Kubuntu, tengo una inquietud Kubuntu reconoce la disquetera??	02:51
stdin	!es \| pedro	02:51
ubotu	pedro: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.	02:51
pedro	Gracias muy amable. hast otra oportunidad,	02:52
jerware	hi	03:20
jerware	the default ftp client, fails to overwrite existing files upon uploading a file via ftp put.	03:20
jerware	what good is it?	03:20
jerware	whats a functional ftp client	03:23
jerware	and yes im restricted to ftp, therfor sftp is outa the question.	03:23
yewwen	sup ppl	03:25
NickPresta	jerware, gftp is nice	03:25
yewwen	wah	03:25
yewwen	so many ppl here	03:25
yewwen	hey guys	03:25
yewwen	how to install a file using terminal ? my file is at my desktop	03:25
NickPresta	yewwen, what kind of file? a deb?	03:26
yewwen	tar.gz	03:26
NickPresta	are you trying to compile something from source?	03:26
yewwen	no	03:26
yewwen	i just want to install this shits	03:26
NickPresta	install what? and what the language please	03:27
yewwen	english	03:27
yewwen	are u a chinese ?	03:27
yewwen	install flash player	03:27
yewwen	dude	03:27
NickPresta	watch the language, I should say	03:27
NickPresta	!flash \| yewwen	03:27
ubotu	yewwen: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	03:27
yewwen	dude dont try to be a hero in here	03:27
BluesKaj	jerware, there are several ftp clients available in adept	03:27
NickPresta	yewwen, would you like some help or would you prefer to sit there in confusion?	03:28
yewwen	NickPresta, if u are tryi	03:28
yewwen	completely.	03:28
yewwen	Unpackage the file. A directory called install_flash_player_9_linux	03:28
NickPresta	yewwen, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash	03:29
yewwen	NickPresta, if u are trying to be a hero i wouldn't mind going against u	03:29
NickPresta	yewwen, I don't know what you're trying to say but you need to follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash	03:29
yewwen	thanks for the help btw	03:29
yewwen	are u an operator in here?	03:29
yewwen	how can i get OP?	03:29
NickPresta	I'm not an op and asking for ops is a surefire way to make sure you don't get ops :)	03:30
yewwen	thanks	03:30
yewwen	see u around dude	03:30
jerware	NickPresta: gftp is an other failure.	03:31
jerware	for it woefully fails to overwrite existing files with the same name..	03:31
NickPresta	jerware, are you sure you have permission to overwrite files?	03:31
jerware	yes	03:31
NickPresta	i don't how an FTP client would prevent you from overwriting an existing file if you have permission to do so	03:32
jerware	becuase it works when i work on a windows box using wsftp	03:32
jerware	in the pc lab	03:32
NickPresta	why not try using `ftp`? that way you can rule out any specific problems caused by specific clients	03:32
Art_	Has anyone gotten CUPS working in Kubuntu Gutsy?	03:33
jerware	put the ftp command in backticks ?	03:33
NickPresta	jerware, in a konsole, type "ftp" sans quotes	03:33
jerware	i get the ftp prompt. so what.	03:33
NickPresta	so login and such and try to overwrite the file. see what error it returns and such	03:34
jerware	`ftp studentwebs.kutztown.edu` # like this for example ??	03:36
NickPresta	jerware, yes. It should ask for a Name and Password. Then, do something like "put localFile.ext remoteFile.ext"	03:38
NickPresta	to send a file	03:38
draik	What would cause me to not be able to view someone's webcam?	03:41
jerware	ftp> "put index.html index.html"	03:41
jerware	?Invalid command	03:41
jerware	draik: do you have the proper web browser plug ins ?	03:41
draik	jerware: For a webcam?	03:42
jerware	draik: are you looking at web cam porn via the web browser? if so, you'll need flash.	03:42
draik	jerware: Haha. My buddy was trying to show me his place while he's on shore from the military and I could see it on my desktop, but not my laptop.	03:43
jerware	so you're using an other application to view web cam output ?	03:43
jerware	not the web browser.	03:44
draik	jerware: I am using Kopete on my desktop and laptop. I can view the video with my desktop, but not my laptop	03:44
Silouck	where can i download latest kubuntu snapshot release?	03:50
Admiral_Chicago	Silouck: hardy is open for testing	03:51
Silouck	Admiral_Chicago: url?	03:51
Admiral_Chicago	Silouck: the latest stable is 7.10 (gutsy)	03:51
Admiral_Chicago	Silouck: cdimage.ubuntu.com iiirc	03:51
Silouck	Admiral_Chicago: dont see any hardy, just gutsy	03:52
joseph	i run wow with wine and i have compiz running....is there any way to make wow not exit when i rotate cube to fifferent desktop?	03:52
Admiral_Chicago	Silouck: check the daily images	03:52
Silouck	Admiral_Chicago: i did	03:52
Silouck	Admiral_Chicago: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ checl	03:53
Admiral_Chicago	it may not say hardy on there but those are the most up to date packages, just not the most stable	03:53
Admiral_Chicago	oh i see	03:53
Admiral_Chicago	hmm	03:54
Silouck	Admiral_Chicago: [ ] kubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso is the livecd?	03:55
Admiral_Chicago	Silouck: no its the alternative (text based with more advanced options)	03:55
Admiral_Chicago	and that is Gutsy still	03:55
Admiral_Chicago	to be honest, i don't know where the daily build of Kubuntu for Hardy are...i thought they would be up on that page	03:56
Silouck	Admiral_Chicago: where cna i get livecd?	03:56
ardchoille	Gutsy was only released last month, doubtful that there's anything useful in Hardy yet	03:57
Admiral_Chicago	http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/7.10/release/	03:57
Admiral_Chicago	Silouck: ^^ latest stable release of Kubuntu	03:57
Silouck	Admiral_Chicago: im asking about the livecd	03:57
Admiral_Chicago	that is a live CD	03:58
ardchoille	Silouck: http://www.kubuntu.com/download.php#latest	03:58
Dragnslcr	As far as I know, all of the installation discs are LiveCD's	03:58
Silouck	Admiral_Chicago: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/7.10/release/ its a dvd	03:58
Admiral_Chicago	Dragnslcr: not the alternative cds	03:58
Admiral_Chicago	you're right, I didn't look close enought, busy with other work	03:59
Admiral_Chicago	sorry	03:59
stdin	I don't think there are any ISOs of Hardy yet, best/only way it to upgrade from Gutsy	03:59
ardchoille	I wouldn't think they would bother with an ISO yet	04:00
dcosson	has anyone been able to get a decent implementation of kickoff going in kubuntu?	04:00
fitoria_	Can I watch ASCII video in konsole with caca-utils????	04:01
fitoria_	i instaled caca-utils, and libine caca	04:01
darkness_s	caca	04:01
jughead	How can I set the default view mode as "detailed" in dolphin? I tried going to view->adjust view properties and changing it there but the changes never stick. It goes back to the big icons as soon as I navigate away and come back.	04:01
fitoria_	darkness_s: i installed caca i can view pics	04:02
fitoria_	but no video	04:02
stdin	fitoria_: mplayer -vo caca video.avi ?	04:02
fitoria_	mm i dont have mplayer can i do it with kaffeine?	04:02
stdin	doubt it, kaffeine is a GUI	04:02
stdin	why would a GUI have console rendering...	04:03
fitoria_	so i need mplayer	04:03
stdin	mplayer or vlc are the ones I know can do it	04:03
stdin	there's probably others too	04:04
fitoria_	ok	04:04
fitoria_	thanks	04:04
mrtimbo	how do i hide my laptop on my network	04:16
naelr	mrtimbo: use a firewall	04:20
mrtimbo	just trying to help my dad	04:21
mrtimbo	i use on here	04:21
Dr_willis	Define "hide" :)	04:35
Dr_willis	And if its your own network.. why do you need to 'hide' it.	04:35
jughead	I just had an odd occurrence. My screen just went blank and the kb wasn't responsive. I reset and got back tothe login screen, and it did it again. Where can I start the troubleshooting?	04:37
naelr	what is the driver disk talked about on the boot up of the live cd?	04:37
cam_	does anyone know the command to check the codecs that are installed i forgot	04:42
naelr	and where does one find it	04:42
jalbert	just install Mplayer. That opens everything.	04:43
mrtimbo	is there a reason why when i uninstall superkaramba everything kde gets deleted	04:44
mrtimbo	or the last time it was kopete	04:44
cam_	no i need to know if i can decode and encode 3gp	04:44
zibrah3ed	cam_ : Just google it there are several alternatives	04:48
cam_	i was hoping to skip the long research but oh well thx anyway =)	04:49
zibrah3ed	Ther is no long research	04:50
zibrah3ed	3gp linux " press enter key"	04:50
cam_	lol thats step 1	04:51
cam_	then shift threw 20 results and about 100 posts	04:52
zibrah3ed	it looks like ffmpeg can encode 3gp	04:53
zibrah3ed	example command ffmpeg -i movie.avi -i movie.wav -b 30 -ac 1 -ab 12 -map 0.0 -map 1.0 movie.3gp	04:54
cam_	last time i had to compile ffmpeg and set an option to enable it	04:54
cam_	idk if they made a new version with it already enabled thats what i wanted to check	04:54
cam_	but oh well its not that important	04:55
zibrah3ed	front end for ffmpeg http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/3gp-converter-25338.shtml	04:55
zibrah3ed	download ffmpeg from the medibuntu repos	04:55
cam_	forget it its not that important	04:57
Zombocom	is there an app to do internet radio streaming?	04:57
Zombocom	or something similar that's opensource	04:58
Zombocom	where would I ask that	04:58
Dr_willis	vlc can do streaming. and its server.. but thats more for video..	04:59
Dr_willis	!find streaming	04:59
ubotu	Package/file streaming does not exist in gutsy	04:59
Zombocom	!radio	04:59
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about radio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	04:59
Zombocom	damn	04:59
Zombocom	yeah	04:59
Zombocom	I was just wondering	04:59
Zombocom	I'll look it up on sourceforge or something	05:00
Zombocom	and stop wasting your guy's time	05:00
zibrah3ed	icecast2 maybe	05:00
Dr_willis	peercast - P2P audio and video streaming server metapackage	05:00
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Kuscheltod	Hey @ll	05:36
Kuscheltod	I;ve an question... :)	05:37
Azzco	..So... are you going to ask it or just make us wait?	05:38
Daisuke_Ido	and the search is still on for a great usenet binary download client	05:39
yurimxpxman	is there an option in apache to not log requests from localhost or your own public IP address?	05:39
Kuscheltod	my w=lan is breaking several times, in windows i've used a tool for w-lan adapter... is there a "same" tool at linux?	05:39
Dr_willis	Daisuke_Ido, i used pan ages and ages ago. :)	05:39
Daisuke_Ido	pan's nice, doesn't do what i would like	05:40
Dr_willis	Yep all depends on your need.s	05:40
Dr_willis	I wantd binaries.. but i dident want ALL the ones. :)	05:40
Daisuke_Ido	bnr2 is excellent, but buggy, prone to crashes, and slower than molasses in january with more than a couple large groups	05:40
Dr_willis	seen several 'grab them all' type programs also.. i think ive even seen some written in perl.	05:41
Dr_willis	Buti havent used any in years	05:41
Kuscheltod	so... is there a tool which control's the network settings? ^^ (sry... new on this)	05:42
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Azzco	Kuscheltod: Check your systray there should be a "knetworkmanager" check that out	05:43
Dr_willis	Unless you closed it. :)	05:43
Kuscheltod	yeah i've seen that and use it already... but sometimes it lost the whole connection to w-lan, had the same problem in windows and use there another tool and it stops ^^ it try to connect to the network and after that its not more visible to choose (settings correct for the network)	05:46
lockd	Daisuke_Ido: usenet is not really made for binaries	05:50
lockd	Daisuke_Ido: hence having few really good ones	05:50
Kuscheltod	na okay, i'll try different settings in knetworkmanager, thx a lot	05:51
Dr_willis	But its the best way to get.. err.... i dont want to go there... :)	05:51
Dr_willis	heh heh.. gotta love alt.binary.erotica.penguins	05:51
Dr_willis	:)	05:51
lockd	I always thought torrent was the best way to grab binaries, because of the way multi files are handled	05:52
Dr_willis	lockd, usenet has been around for 20+ (perhaps 30+) years.. :)	05:52
lockd	Dr_willis: oh, and where do all the old files stack up?	05:53
Dr_willis	best is relative.. :) when it was used ages ago.. it was sort of the only way.	05:53
Dr_willis	lockd, thats a very very good question. :)	05:53
Dr_willis	There used tobe some net archive sites. but no idea whos doing what now a days with them	05:53
Dr_willis	Used to be like once a month in the MAME groups some one sould post all the roms, or a select # very month.	05:54
lockd	usenet still might be the best. but the only ones i have ever saw are "Paysites"	05:54
Dr_willis	Of course Now a days all the MAME roms is like 20GB.. vs.. 200mb back then	05:54
lockd	(only usenet servers, that is)	05:54
Dr_willis	theres free ones.. :) but it all depends on your needs I guess as to whats best.	05:54
Dr_willis	I rember the old BBS days.. egads	05:55
lockd	I can't even find a free text posting that is -decent-	05:55
* Dr_willis is old		05:55
lockd	let alone binary	05:55
Dr_willis	Torrents got us all spoiled. :)	05:56
lockd	btw, I still like konq over dolphin	05:57
Dr_willis	lockd, the dolphin in kubuntu - I think. is a bit brain dead.. compared to the one in KDE4 :) also..	05:57
lockd	that could be it	05:57
Dr_willis	or so i noticed in my kde4 live cd testing last week.	05:57
lockd	it IS brain dead	05:57
lockd	and it doesn't handle glob in address bar	05:58
lockd	kinda nice when searching through roms and such	05:58
lockd	glob, like Legend	05:59
Dr_willis	I just use MC for my main file manager. :P	05:59
Morningsickness	UNITED MEXICAN TROLLS ON THE ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE WILL RECONQUER THE SOUTHWEST DEMOGRAPHICALLY!!!!!!! VAYANSE A LA CHINGADA GRINGOS DE MIERDA SON RATEROS JUDIOS Y NECESITAN VOLVER A EUROPA GO BACK TO EUROPE THEIVING GRINGOS FUCCCKING JEWS WE WILL OUTBREED YOU AND RECONQUER THE AMERICAN SOUTHWEST 6 TROLLS AT THE UNAM IN MEXICO CITY UNSTOPPABLE	06:11
Morningsickness	UNITED MEXICAN TROLLS ON THE ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE WILL RECONQUER THE SOUTHWEST DEMOGRAPHICALLY!!!!!!! VAYANSE A LA CHINGADA GRINGOS DE MIERDA SON RATEROS JUDIOS Y NECESITAN VOLVER A EUROPA GO BACK TO EUROPE THEIVING GRINGOS FUCCCKING JEWS WE WILL OUTBREED YOU AND RECONQUER THE AMERICAN SOUTHWEST 6 TROLLS AT THE UNAM IN MEXICO CITY UNSTOPPABLE	06:11
Morningsickness	UNITED MEXICAN TROLLS ON THE ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE WILL RECONQUER THE SOUTHWEST DEMOGRAPHICALLY!!!!!!! VAYANSE A LA CHINGADA GRINGOS DE MIERDA SON RATEROS JUDIOS Y NECESITAN VOLVER A EUROPA GO BACK TO EUROPE THEIVING GRINGOS FUCCCKING JEWS WE WILL OUTBREED YOU AND RECONQUER THE AMERICAN SOUTHWEST 6 TROLLS AT THE UNAM IN MEXICO CITY UNSTOPPABLE	06:12
Morningsickness	UNITED MEXICAN TROLLS ON THE ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE WILL RECONQUER THE SOUTHWEST DEMOGRAPHICALLY!!!!!!! VAYANSE A LA CHINGADA GRINGOS DE MIERDA SON RATEROS JUDIOS Y NECESITAN VOLVER A EUROPA GO BACK TO EUROPE THEIVING GRINGOS FUCCCKING JEWS WE WILL OUTBREED YOU AND RECONQUER THE AMERICAN SOUTHWEST 6 TROLLS AT THE UNAM IN MEXICO CITY UNSTOPPABLE	06:12
Morningsickness	UNITED MEXICAN TROLLS ON THE ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE WILL RECONQUER THE SOUTHWEST DEMOGRAPHICALLY!!!!!!! VAYANSE A LA CHINGADA GRINGOS DE MIERDA SON RATEROS JUDIOS Y NECESITAN VOLVER A EUROPA GO BACK TO EUROPE THEIVING GRINGOS FUCCCKING JEWS WE WILL OUTBREED YOU AND RECONQUER THE AMERICAN SOUTHWEST 6 TROLLS AT THE UNAM IN MEXICO CITY UNSTOPPABLE	06:12
Morningsickness	UNITED MEXICAN TROLLS ON THE ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE WILL RECONQUER THE SOUTHWEST DEMOGRAPHICALLY!!!!!!! VAYANSE A LA CHINGADA GRINGOS DE MIERDA SON RATEROS JUDIOS Y NECESITAN VOLVER A EUROPA GO BACK TO EUROPE THEIVING GRINGOS FUCCCKING JEWS WE WILL OUTBREED YOU AND RECONQUER THE AMERICAN SOUTHWEST 6 TROLLS AT THE UNAM IN MEXICO CITY UNSTOPPABLE	06:12
Morningsickness	UNITED MEXICAN TROLLS ON THE ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE WILL RECONQUER THE SOUTHWEST DEMOGRAPHICALLY!!!!!!! VAYANSE A LA CHINGADA GRINGOS DE MIERDA SON RATEROS JUDIOS Y NECESITAN VOLVER A EUROPA GO BACK TO EUROPE THEIVING GRINGOS FUCCCKING JEWS WE WILL OUTBREED YOU AND RECONQUER THE AMERICAN SOUTHWEST 6 TROLLS AT THE UNAM IN MEXICO CITY UNSTOPPABL	06:12
* sub[t]rnl whistles		06:15
Azzco	...kay	06:15
Nyle	ahh boy	06:20
Nyle	wonderful	06:21
shimwha	why so	06:21
ward_	Someone who knows an FTP program for Kubuntu?	06:21
flaccid	ward_: krusader or kftpgrabber	06:22
Doctor_Nick	woooo	06:23
ward_	wich one is the best	06:24
Doctor_Nick	ubuntu	06:24
flaccid	there is no best, it depends what you want. i use krusader for most protocols. konqueror is suffice for ftp anyway..	06:24
ward_	ok	06:24
Doctor_Nick	filezilla	06:24
Doctor_Nick	is a decent ftp client	06:24
* Dr_willis wishes to point out that using ssh is perferable :)		06:25
Dr_willis	but it depends on your needs.	06:25
Greenery	u can use fireftp extension on firefox	06:25
flaccid	krusader and kftpgrabber both support sftp and scp iirc	06:25
ward_	ok	06:26
Dr_willis	flaccid, cool. :)	06:26
ward_	what could be the command to install	06:26
ward_	Krusader?	06:26
ward_	kdesu krusader -caption "%c" %i %m	06:26
ward_	?	06:26
Dr_willis	i never was clear on how sftp and scp differ.	06:26
flaccid	sudo apt-get install krusader	06:26
flaccid	!info krusader	06:26
ubotu	krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.80.0-1 (gutsy), package size 3102 kB, installed size 8736 kB	06:26
ward_	hm	06:27
ward_	?	06:27
Dr_willis	!info gentoo	06:27
ubotu	gentoo: a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.55-1.1 (gutsy), package size 764 kB, installed size 2432 kB	06:27
Dr_willis	!info mc	06:27
ubotu	mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-7ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 2058 kB, installed size 5944 kB	06:27
Dr_willis	:) lets see how many others are there...	06:27
Dr_willis	!info filerunner	06:27
ubotu	filerunner: X-Based FTP program & file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.1-17 (gutsy), package size 136 kB, installed size 656 kB	06:27
jerald	I am rather... new to Kubuntu, but I have used Ubuntu before, is it almost the same?	06:28
Dr_willis	I know theres a few more...	06:28
Dr_willis	Kubuntu = Kde front end.. Ubuntu = gnome	06:28
jerald	Okay	06:28
Dr_willis	the default desktop differrs.	06:28
jerald	So, they are similar but not the same	06:28
Dr_willis	You can install kde, on ubuntu, and gnome on kubuntu easially enough.	06:28
Murchadh	!info kasablanca	06:28
ubotu	kasablanca: fast and free ftp client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0.2-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 165 kB, installed size 628 kB	06:28
Tm_T	come on	06:28
Dr_willis	and then theres the other desktops/window managers out there..	06:28
jerald	Alright	06:29
Dr_willis	is there a 'fluxbuntu' yet? i aint looked lately	06:29
jerald	I was just wondering if they were similar before I got too involved in it	06:29
Dr_willis	the 'core' is the same.. the desktop differs	06:29
jerald	Aight	06:29
Dr_willis	it always pays to learn the underlaying system and fundamentals of linux.	06:29
Dr_willis	dont just learn the 'desktop' :)	06:30
ward_	Ok guys thanks,	06:30
ward_	I went to school now	06:30
ward_	Ciao!	06:30
Dr_willis	well night a.. :) he goes to school.. i go to sleep.	06:30
sn00zer	is this an issue i need to address? 11/23/2007 08:28:32 PMsn00zersudo(pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=pts/1 ruser= rhost= user=root	06:32
sn00zer	i saw that it was a security issue in earlier kde versions but it said up to 3.4 something, i have 3.5	06:33
ppmi_	Hello Everyone!	06:34
sn00zer	process should be kcheckpass no sudo, sorry	06:35
ppmi_	Can anyone guide me about enabling DMA for my SATA Hard Drive?	06:35
bazzieb	hi guys	06:39
sn00zer	hi	06:39
bazzieb	i have just upgraded to 7.10 ubuntu	06:39
sn00zer	congrats	06:39
bazzieb	and wanted to know if it has become easier to connect to a Active Directory omain	06:39
bazzieb	*domain	06:39
sn00zer	i don't know anything about that.... sorry	06:40
bazzieb	cool	06:40
sn00zer	and there doesn't seem to be anyone talking on this channel right now	06:40
sn00zer	#ubuntu is alittle more active maybe ask there?	06:41
bazzieb	cool	06:42
bazzieb	just have	06:42
kristjan_	where can I dl hardy haron iso?	06:46
kristjan_	*heron	06:47
jalbert	hey all	06:54
jalbert	I need to install Netscape on my Feisty system	06:55
jalbert	ahould I download the tar.gz and go from there?	06:56
stdin	jalbert: why do you need netscape?	06:57
Eltoroph	hai all	07:04
MilitantPotato	Where's color schemes saved?	07:13
emilsedgh	MilitantPotato: every KDE suff is saved in ~/.kde look there	07:13
MilitantPotato	~//.kde/share/config/colors/ ?	07:14
emilsedgh	MilitantPotato: ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes (Your Personal themes)	07:15
MilitantPotato	Thank you	07:15
emilsedgh	MilitantPotato: and Installed Themes: /usr/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes	07:16
jalbert	hi all	07:29
jalbert	I'm having a little difficulty installing Netscape 7	07:30
jalbert	!install	07:30
ubotu	Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate	07:30
quin_	hey, I just install kubuntu 7.10 on a compaq presario m2000. the boot screen does not come up when it booting up	07:33
ThunderHawk	hello/witam	07:33
sillyforprez	hm	07:36
sillyforprez	hi	07:36
tazgodx	i got a problem, i have a rar file on a flash drive that has an NES rom in it. and i can extract it fine on windows, but in my kubuntu i can't extract it.	07:48
posingaspopular	tazgodx: what's the error?	08:08
posingaspopular	!unrar \| tazgodx	08:08
ubotu	tazgodx: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free	08:08
posingaspopular	look at that page if you haven't yet	08:08
tazgodx	it says its empty	08:09
posingaspopular	ahh what is the name of the file	08:09
posingaspopular	if the file starts it a dot, linux wont see it.	08:10
posingaspopular	./configure for example	08:10
tazgodx	Yoshi.rar	08:10
Ayabara	I'm having some issues trying to install kde4-rc1 -> trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/lib/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so', which is also in package kde4base	08:10
tazgodx	hold on, ill try terminal	08:11
tazgodx	says its not a rar archive, and "No files to extract"	08:12
Ayabara	I have tried an "apt-get -f install", but I get the same errors	08:13
posingaspopular	and you get this same error from ark and termial	08:13
posingaspopular	hmm	08:13
posingaspopular	can you drag and drop the file from the flash drive to a desktop	08:13
posingaspopular	i dont know if it fix the problem but im just throwing it out there	08:14
tazgodx	i actually threw it on the flash drive to take it to my parents windows comp, to test it. and it worked but i have more on this comp that i want extracted	08:15
tazgodx	yeah same error from arc and terminal with unrar command	08:15
posingaspopular	just a wuick question: why can't you use ZSNES from the repository for the ROM	08:18
posingaspopular	ive never used it, so i dont know the limitations, and i know snes and nes are different consoles	08:18
tazgodx	well the rom is rared up, i need to extract it to play it	08:19
korex	русский	08:22
korex	русские есть	08:22
Jalathan	tazgodx: have you tried the unrar program?	08:22
posingaspopular	!pl	08:23
ubotu	Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl	08:23
SSJ_GZ	Ayabara: Try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3829935#post3829935	08:23
posingaspopular	im not even sure if that'spolish. looks closer to russian...	08:23
\|Dominus\|	hallo	08:24
tazgodx	yeah, it says not a rar archive, and "No files to extract"	08:24
posingaspopular	hi	08:25
posingaspopular	hi \|Dominus\|	08:25
Ayabara	SSJ_GZ: found the same post myself, and it worked. thanks :-)	08:26
SSJ_GZ	Ayabara: Cool :)	08:26
=== \|Dominus\| is now known as linhack
inversekinetix	¿ʇı xıɟ ı uɐɔ ʍoɥ 'uʍop ǝpısdn sı uǝǝɹɔs ʎɯ	08:28
tazgodx	ʎuunɟ ǝʇınb sʇɐɥʇ	08:30
jon1k555	jupiii	08:31
posingaspopular	offtopic guys	08:31
Jalathan	tazgodx: sry for not looking at the previous posts... however, you might look into running it through 7-Zip under WINE	08:32
Airforce55555	anybody know how to view a pages web sites info	08:33
Airforce55555	In windows i pressed something but i dont remember	08:33
tazgodx	i keep hoping not to have to install wine, i still have yet to fall to that :) guess i must just for these	08:33
ActionParsnip	Airforce55555: doesnt firefox 3 beta let you do that?	08:34
Airforce55555	im not sure	08:34
Airforce55555	all i see is view page source	08:34
stdin	tazgodx: p7zip is in the repos, no need for wine	08:34
ActionParsnip	Airforce55555: Ho do you mean info?	08:34
Airforce55555	like it shows the author, date it was last updated along with other stuff	08:35
Airforce55555	stuff necessary for citations	08:35
tazgodx	hmm, says its already installed...wow this is getting annoying	08:35
posingaspopular	ctrl+I ?	08:35
stdin	Airforce55555: in which browser	08:35
posingaspopular	in firefox	08:35
Airforce55555	firefox	08:35
Airforce55555	let me see	08:36
stdin	the n Ctrl-I it is	08:36
Airforce55555	ctrl I worked	08:36
Airforce55555	:D	08:36
Airforce55555	thanks	08:36
stdin	could also just right-click -> view page info	08:36
ActionParsnip	learn something new every day	08:37
tazgodx	!info unrar-free	08:39
ubotu	unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20070515-1 (gutsy), package size 40 kB, installed size 124 kB	08:39
linhack	!info pdf	08:40
ubotu	Package pdf does not exist in gutsy	08:40
posingaspopular	linhack: what do you need to know about pdf's?	08:40
linhack	for edit pdf	08:41
linhack	acrobat full not exist for linux?	08:41
linhack	ofr alternative program	08:41
Tm_T	!pdf	08:41
ubotu	pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)	08:41
linhack	aaaaaaaaa tank....	08:41
linhack	!pdf	08:41
posingaspopular	yea editing pdf is a problem	08:41
Tm_T	see, viewable	08:41
linhack	I install acrobat full in wine directory	08:42
posingaspopular	Tm_T: i thought pdf was an open format	08:42
Tm_T	you can sure import pdf to OO.o	08:42
posingaspopular	and then edit and export to pdf again	08:42
linhack	pdf and tft	08:42
Tm_T	posingaspopular: yes, sort of, but Adobe does have their own "specialities" in their creators that doesn't fit too well to "open format"	08:43
linhack	fdf	08:43
linhack	i use linux for work.... and i have problem for pdf	08:44
ActionParsnip	posingaspopular: this could help http://www.linux.com/feature/113907	08:44
posingaspopular	!info flpsed	08:45
ubotu	flpsed: a WYSIWYG pseudo PostScript editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-1.1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 140 kB	08:45
JackWinter	hiya, is there a way to turn off hyperthreading temporarily in kubuntu?	09:09
bucatoamano	anyone use converit?	09:10
leopard	hello	09:14
leopard	hello....	09:15
posingaspopular	hey leopard	09:17
leopard	how to connect to a wireless access point?	09:17
leopard	is there any graphical took for it?	09:18
posingaspopular	knetworkmanager	09:18
leopard	tool*	09:18
posingaspopular	i dont use ever to be honest	09:18
posingaspopular	use wireless*	09:18
leopard	how do you get connected to internet?	09:20
tahir	leopard: on kubuntu there is a knetworkmanager icon, right-click on that to view available wireless networks	09:22
posingaspopular	it should be on the taskbar near the clock	09:24
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bazzieb	has any1 here managed to get 7.10 to authenticate to AD???	09:34
corinth	Hi all, it seems that my cdrom doesn't mount on boot. How do I fix that?	09:34
tahir	corinth: do you mean the cdrom 'drive' is not being detected? or an actual cdrom disc?	09:43
corinth	tahir: An actual cdrom disc. For example, I have a game cd I usually keep in the drive. In Ubuntu, I can boot up, and jump in the game. In Kubuntu, I have to navigate to the drive and open it before it mounts so I can use it.	09:44
sharkk	hi, i have just installed kubuntu but when i try to compile something with gcc i get some error like that it doesn't find header file such as stdlib.h, signal.h, ...	09:50
sharkk	what pkg i need to install?	09:50
corinth	sharkk: try build-essential	09:51
sharkk	If you do not plan to build Debian packages, you don't need this package.	09:51
sharkk	?	09:51
tahir	corinth: I am not sure. I know that many people have reported usb devices not being auto-mounted. I have had issues and make the thumbstick mount with 'pmount'.	09:51
sharkk	it doesnt seems useful...	09:52
corinth	tahir: Thanks anyway.	09:52
tahir	corinth: if it is detected but not mounted there is a window pop-up usually which states 'open in new window' and at at the bottom 'always do this for this type of medium' - try ticking that.	09:53
corinth	tahir: No go. It detects it, but doesn't ask me what to do.	09:54
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tahir	corinth: sorry don't know. you could pop the question to the 'kde' channel as well as it may be a general kde thing.	10:03
=== alex__ is now known as astocko
berga_	hi all	10:11
bazhang	hi!	10:11
berga_	I'm experiencing a strange fact over internal newtwork	10:13
berga_	network	10:13
berga_	nslookup resolves the right host's ip, but i can't ping that host	10:14
berga_	I'm a part of a domain setted via dhcplient	10:15
atno	Good morning all	10:15
bazhang	berga_: you are trying to share files through the internal network or other	10:16
bazhang	hi atno	10:16
atno	ah kde4 wont install on my system... im keep getting errors :(	10:18
atno	for example: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/apps/kcmkwm.png', which is also in package kde4artwork-data	10:18
atno	is there a fix for that?	10:18
corinth	Is there a way to fix how the small bouncing icon stays much longer than it should after launching a program sometimes?	10:19
ActionParsnip	hi all	10:20
ActionParsnip	is anyone running KUbuntu on an EEEPC here?	10:20
Tm_T	doing poll?	10:21
atno	ha!	10:21
Tm_T	atno: uhm, I'm not sure should you use KDE4 yet if you don't know how to handle package issues (well, who am I to tell)	10:22
squid0	hello! I have a wired and a wireless connection to my home LAN. but under the control module for the network, I have to specify which network interface I use to connect to the gateway (either eth0, wired, or eth1, wifi). this seems to be the only way to switch between the 2 connections... or is there a simpler way?	10:24
bazhang	ActionParsnip: tried it, but no atheros_swan support as of yet--otherwise it's nice	10:24
atno	Tm_T: i was following the guide from kubuntu home page, and yes im new to (k)ubuntu	10:24
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Tm_T	atno: I know, just a thought, newest isn't always the best (for you)	10:25
Tm_T	!worksforme > atno	10:25
atno	Tm_T: apt-get suggests running apt-get -f install, but that doesnt helps either	10:25
Tm_T	yup	10:25
ActionParsnip	bazhang: ive heard people got it working ok. I think with ndiswrapper	10:25
bazhang	ActionParsnip: true--though I'd prefer to avoid that fate :}	10:26
Tm_T	ActionParsnip: hmm, I wonder why this discussion, some help needed?	10:26
atno	Tm_T: on CentOS i have compiled kde4 and it's up and running :(	10:26
Tm_T	atno: yes	10:26
Tm_T	!dpkg	10:26
ubotu	dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.	10:26
bazhang	ActionParsnip: why not join #eeepc	10:26
Tm_T	hmh	10:26
Tm_T	atno: see dpkg --help	10:27
astocko	Are there any active Ubuntu Developers on? I'd like to ask you a few questions about how to best get into Ubuntu development. If noone answers, I'm assuming I should just hit up the bug mailing lists and start fixing.	10:27
Tm_T	atno: but whatever you do with KDE4, it's on your own risk	10:27
J-_	When installing the kubuntu metapackage kubuntu-desktop in gutsy, does it install kde4?	10:27
atno	Tm_T: yes i know	10:27
ActionParsnip	bazhang: cos no one chats :(	10:27
atno	Tm_T: :)	10:27
Tm_T	astocko: checking bugs, following mailinglists etc etc	10:28
Tm_T	astocko: we also have #kubuntu-devel	10:28
Tm_T	astocko: if you're interested on packaging, #ubuntu-motu is good place to be	10:28
bazhang	ActionParsnip: #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic then	10:28
ActionParsnip	bazhang: cheers man	10:29
astocko	Tm_T: I was reading about a "mentoring" program, though I don't know if I clearly understood. A page on ubuntu.com referenced the mentoring program as being a peer review step before coming a full fledged core developer. On launchpad.net, the mentoring program is apparently for newbies wanting to help out. Which is it?	10:30
Tm_T	astocko: noo idea =)	10:30
astocko	Tm_T: Thanks for the channels :) I'll check them out.	10:31
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Tm_T	blendtux-away: erm	10:31
rysiek\|pl	hi guys	10:31
blendtux-away	sorry	10:31
Tm_T	!away > blendtux-away	10:32
rysiek\|pl	I am having a really strange issue here - I am using Kontact (with KMail and Akregator as the most used parts) for 3+ years and I have used them with the same configs for all this time;	10:32
rysiek\|pl	what's more - I have ratyher dark desktop settings	10:32
Tm_T	rysiek\|pl: screenshot?	10:32
Tm_T	(I do have too	10:33
Tm_T	)	10:33
rysiek\|pl	Tm_T: a moment, I just finish the descr ;) )	10:33
Tm_T	yu yu	10:33
rysiek\|pl	yesterday I tried to see what will happen when I "select a different profile" in Kontact - saving my usual settings, of course	10:33
Ahmuck	what happened to sunbird's icon?	10:34
Tm_T	Ahmuck: what?	10:34
rysiek\|pl	and, well, some colours (namely: link, link visited and secondary list background) are default - but not MY default (darke), but "normal" default - blue, purple and light gray, resp.	10:34
rysiek\|pl	I tried to revert to "my" profile, but without any luck	10:35
Tm_T	rysiek\|pl: IIRC profile can have colorsettings of its own	10:35
Tm_T	I don't know if it had thrown some weird configs on	10:35
rysiek\|pl	Tm_T: yeah, but where do you set them? and why the heck doesn't it respect the "use system colours" setting in KMail?	10:35
Tm_T	interesting	10:36
Tm_T	it should	10:36
rysiek\|pl	funny thing is: when I start KMail or Akregator NOT as a kontact part (i.e. kontact is not running), A is OK	10:36
Tm_T	have you tried restarting	10:36
rysiek\|pl	yup	10:36
Tm_T	oh boy...	10:36
rysiek\|pl	tell me about it	10:36
rysiek\|pl	that would be a great material for a bugrep, had I only have any idea against what to bugrep	10:36
Tm_T	:p	10:37
Tm_T	rysiek\|pl: tried searching in bugs.kde.org?	10:37
rysiek\|pl	not yet. I played with that just before going to sleep (yeah, I knwo...), and now I have to eat some breakfast and go to work. hoped for some "Well known Bug"	10:38
rysiek\|pl	btw, is it a slow help day today? not much going on	10:38
rysiek\|pl	hmmm... maybe the guys at #kontact will know something	10:39
Tm_T	rysiek\|pl: they will, I'm sure	10:42
posingaspopular	astocko: you were talking about Masters of the Universe (MOTU).	10:56
posingaspopular	it's for anyone who wants to help develop ubuntu but needs help learning.	10:56
astocko	posingaspopular: thanks, I'm actually checking out all the wiki documentation now from MOTU :)	10:57
posingaspopular	awesome. i plan on going for motu as well in the next semester. there are lots of resources available, so you should no problem getting help	10:58
bazhang	posingaspopular: they have a mailing list?	11:00
astocko	bazhang: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-motu - mailing list sign up	11:01
bazhang	astocko: thanks! I am so there :}	11:02
posingaspopular	yes, and bazhang had the link	11:02
bazhang	cheers posingaspopular!	11:02
posingaspopular	if you hang out in the dev chan. talk to superm1 and nixternal, they are both rock solid dudes from my loco	11:03
posingaspopular	and manchicken of couser	11:03
=== ubuntu is now known as ubuntu_
=== ubuntu_ is now known as ubuntu
ubuntu	is there anyone speak italian	11:04
Tm_T	!it \| ubuntu	11:05
ubotu	ubuntu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!	11:05
ubuntu	thanks	11:05
Tm_T	you're welcome	11:05
tahir	what is the best way to download source code for programs?	11:05
posingaspopular	tahir: sourceforge	11:05
tahir	I use aptitude as my package manager, any way to use that to download source code as well as install programs?	11:08
wucheng	i start #glxinfo ,but return the message "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server	11:09
wucheng	Xlib: No protocol specified	11:09
wucheng	Error: unable to open display :0",what should i do ?	11:09
posingaspopular	apt and adept	11:09
posingaspopular	are usually the three for ubuntu	11:09
tahir	posingaspopular: apt-get source 'program_name' does the job but I am confused as to why I can't do the same thing with aptitude too.	11:12
ubuntu	I-m sorry can you take me the italian channel please, thank you	11:15
vorian	#ubuntu-it	11:15
tahir	Its ok I found the answer here: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/15/getting-the-source-package-with-aptitude/	11:16
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posingaspopular	yea i dont understand why ubuntu wants to use three different package managers	11:19
posingaspopular	ubuntu: type in "/join #ubuntu-it"	11:19
waylandbill	anyone using vmware server? if so, how do I access it? does it install some client?	11:20
posingaspopular	you need to install it waylandbill	11:20
waylandbill	I did install using vmware-install.pl.	11:21
waylandbill	are you saying I need to install a seperate client as well?	11:22
tahir	posingaspopular: is it ok to use different ones at different times?	11:23
posingaspopular	yes but i forget the differences and i try not to think about it too much	11:24
posingaspopular	that's one of the things about ubuntu that bothers me	11:24
waylandbill	posingaspopular: having choices is the point. being limited to one certain way isn't.	11:30
posingaspopular	yea i know, but the documentation as to WHY there are adept, aptitude and apt-get exist and how to use it isn't where it should be	11:31
posingaspopular	i know because im supposed to be on the docs team	11:32
* posingaspopular makes a mental note to write some docs asap		11:32
waylandbill	posingaspopular: aptitude is there because it was already there from upstream debian. It has an ncurses type gui. adept is for using the qt gui, synaptic, the gtk gui, and apt-get is simple command line.	11:34
waylandbill	see. simple. :)	11:34
posingaspopular	yea simple...	11:34
posingaspopular	bashes head into monitor	11:34
posingaspopular	aptitude is how one gets debian packages in debian/	11:34
waylandbill	aptitude was the way to actually select packages to install during a debian installation. I think one could have used dselect as well, but aptitude was a huge step forward from dselect.	11:36
posingaspopular	ah okay. i need to install debian etch on an ibook soon i think.	11:37
* posingaspopular goes back to being ontopic		11:37
sillyforprez	hey guys.. i have a question >_<	11:41
sillyforprez	how do i remove the top of konsole? with session edit view etc on it..	11:42
waylandbill	hmm. the documentation says to launch the vmware server console, but it doesn't appear in the k menu. I know there is a way to force updating of the k menu, but don't remember it.	11:42
posingaspopular	hide menubar sillyforprez	11:42
posingaspopular	hey guys i have a question. i hid my menubar, and now i dont know how to get it bad	11:43
posingaspopular	back*	11:43
posingaspopular	ah nvm, just open up a new konsole instance	11:43
waylandbill	posingaspopular: right click the konsole interface and select 'show menubar'	11:43
sillyforprez	where's the hide menubar option?.. maybe im just blind	11:43
posingaspopular	on top, under settings iirc	11:44
waylandbill	sillyforprez: Settings->Hide MenuBar	11:44
sillyforprez	oh.. bah.. i AM blind..	11:44
posingaspopular	ah i see	11:44
sillyforprez	thanks :P	11:44
posingaspopular	thanks waylandbill	11:44
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sillyforprez	ah cool.. ctrl+m works too :P	11:57
sunpaw	anyone here know about kubuntu on laptops?	11:59
sillyforprez	what do you need to know?	11:59
_4strO	!ask	12:00
ubotu	Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	12:00
sunpaw	Well my battery icon claims that battery isn't present, and on startup HAL says it bcant find the wifi	12:00
posingaspopular	which laptop	12:02
sunpaw	Acer Aspire 3050 1066	12:03
posingaspopular	my sister has that computer and it runs ubuntu perfectly	12:04
posingaspopular	sorry i cant help on that one	12:04
sunpaw	:( oh well	12:05
ardchoille	Anyone know how I can get elinks to have the same colours when running in screen as when running outside of screen?	12:05
sunpaw	maybe ubuntu > kubuntu on this	12:05
posingaspopular	im pretty sure my brother configured some stuff for her before he let her run wild, but ubuntu does work on that laptop	12:05
sunpaw	ok	12:06
posingaspopular	im almost positive about the particular model being the same you have	12:06
sunpaw	yah probably, its common	12:06
posingaspopular	yea im pretty sure its the same one. that won't fix your kubuntu problems though.	12:07
pongscript	hi there..	12:08
pongscript	is there any can help me .. it is regarding the toolbar that suddenly disappear	12:08
sunpaw	unfortunately kubuntu is slighted. Gnome is the environment they work with	12:08
sunpaw	i could just install gnome	12:08
sunpaw	woops	12:08
pongscript	i dunno what happened it just suddenly disappear	12:08
pongscript	i am using KDE3.5.6	12:09
pongscript	i have 7.04	12:09
pongscript	how can i bring back the toolbar?	12:09
pongscript	any help? anyone?	12:10
posingaspopular	the task bar/	12:10
pongscript	yup	12:10
posingaspopular	alt+f	12:10
posingaspopular	alt+f2	12:10
posingaspopular	you wnat to launch 'kicker' but without the quotes	12:10
pongscript	ok ill try that shortcut key	12:11
posingaspopular	you can also run it from the kmenu under 'Actions'	12:12
sillyforprez	how do i get specs on the sides like this - http://www.kubuntuforums.net/mkportal/modules/gallery/album/a_70.jpg ?	12:17
pongscript	ok thanks for your help.. though i find another solution...lolz	12:20
waylandbill	sillyforprez: super karamba	12:20
waylandbill	!info superkaramba	12:21
ubotu	superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 533 kB, installed size 1424 kB	12:21
sillyforprez	thanks :)	12:21
posingaspopular	ah yea that's wha ti was thinking of	12:21
youness	HI	12:30
posingaspopular	hey youness	12:33
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paolo	hi. considering a 17x17 mini itx, if I don't use any graphic card and any HD, how bigger could be the case (considering the power supply too) ?	12:44
=== paolo is now known as paolo_u
sigma	how do i set apache to use my local ip address as its ip address and not the default 127.0.1.1?	12:46
flaccid	its like in ports.conf or something	12:47
flaccid	one sec	12:47
sitara	Hi guys, I'm having trouble getting my kubuntu machine connected to the internet. It seems to be getting the wrong ip address from the router (DHCP server) can anyone help?	12:47
posingaspopular	sitara: try ifconfig and sudo dhclient	12:49
flaccid	sigma: do it in the default vhost	12:49
sigma	flaccid: is that in the ports.conf you were referring to?	12:50
flaccid	look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled and /etc/apache2/sites-available and /etc/apache2/ports.conf	12:51
flaccid	also check /etc/apache2/apache2.conf	12:51
flaccid	i can't entirely remember. i disagree with the config implementation on debian as do most apache people	12:51
sitara	posingaspopular: dhclient says it gets no offers	12:52
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paolo_u	hi. considering a 17x17 mini itx, if I don't use any graphic card and any HD, how bigger could be the case (considering the power supply too) ?	12:53
sigma	flaccid: I keep getting this error message - apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName	12:54
flaccid	yeah needs to be resolvable by dns..	12:55
sitara	posingaspopular: ifconfig gives me an inet addr of 169.254.. wheeras I am expecting 192.168..	12:55
sitara	posingaspopular: I don't understand where that address is coming from	12:56
flaccid	yeah dhcp server is not giving offer	12:56
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flaccid	its a virtual private address which it defaults to via service discovery	12:56
flaccid	the dhcp could be giving the offer, but the dhcp client aint getting it	12:56
sitara	the strange thing is that I am connected to the same router with this computer	12:57
sigma	flaccid: so how do i force it to? my ip addresses are set to be assigned by dhcp	12:57
sitara	this morning the other computer was working properly with a wireless connection until I moved it from one side of the room to the other!	12:58
flaccid	sigma: probably edit ports.conf and do it explicitly	12:58
pavlovic	URA evo i mene	12:59
pavlovic	Ko razume shvatice	13:00
sitara	I tried assigning a manual ip address but I sstill don't get connected	13:00
pavlovic	Jupi	13:00
flaccid	!apache	13:00
ubotu	LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)	13:00
flaccid	did you read that?	13:00
posingaspopular	sorry sitara i have to go afk. im sure others in this chan are better at networking than me anyway. good luck!	13:01
sitara	posingaspopular: thanks anyway	13:02
sitara	can anybody please help me with my networking problem? I am baffled	13:03
pavlovic	Pa sta	13:03
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Jermit	hello	13:09
=== Agrajag` is now known as Agrajag
Jermit	anyone here?	13:11
Jermit	why is nobody chatting?	13:12
ardchoille	Any idea how to get elinks to show images rather than showing [IMG] ?	13:14
Zombocom	how do I view other computers on a network in kubuntu?	13:27
Zombocom	hello?	13:31
Zombocom	hello	13:32
sillyforprez	hello	13:33
Zombocom	do you know how to view computers on your network in linux?	13:37
waylandbill_	Zombocom: you want to share files between them?	13:39
Zombocom	waylandbill_: no I just want a list of the computers near me like the windows net view command	13:40
Zombocom	hold on I think I might have figured it out	13:41
waylandbill_	Zombocom: the 'computers near me' are really only the ones that are serving samba shares.	13:48
waylandbill_	Zombocom: your router or other dhcp server if you have one probably has a list of leases. That may give a more accurate list of computers on your network.	13:50
ubuntu_	help! i need log as root in kubuntu 7.04 live	13:52
ubuntu_	someone can help me	13:52
ardchoille	ubuntu_: On the live cd?	13:52
ubuntu_	kubuntu	13:52
ubuntu_	live cd	13:52
ubuntu_	yes	13:52
ardchoille	afaik, you can't	13:53
ardchoille	You can, however, use sudo on the live cd	13:53
ubuntu_	ok	13:53
ubuntu_	but I can't log as root	13:53
ardchoille	No	13:54
ubuntu_	?	13:54
ubuntu_	oka	13:54
ardchoille	There is no need to log as root	13:54
Zombocom	ardchoille: when do you sleep?	13:54
ardchoille	Zombocom: Sleep? What's that?	13:54
sillyforprez	that thing people do when they log off from wow	13:55
ardchoille	hehe	13:55
giuseppe	hi	14:01
ardchoille	hi giuseppe	14:01
giuseppe	hi ardchoille :)	14:03
mith_	hi all!	14:03
Mr_Sonoma	cyall later, be good	14:05
mith_	does anybody playing openttd on kubuntu?	14:06
sillyforprez	thomax? :P	14:07
giuseppe	How could i enable the "automatically select file name extension" option check box in kdialog in kwrite? i have it grayed out	14:10
giuseppe	Does anyone know?	14:11
giuseppe	that option is in the save as dialog box	14:12
waylandbill_	giuseppe: might not matter. Looks like that section of code has a comment that it should be removed in kde 4. :)	14:19
waylandbill_	giuseppe: in any case, it looks like the application has to set the mime filter before it will enable that option. I don't know if that helps you or not.	14:20
giuseppe	hi waylandbill_: thanks for your answer i ask this because every time i save a file in kwrite without extension, the file is saved as a generic file and not as a text one	14:21
giuseppe	i have to add the .txt extensions to the name of the file to have it saved as text	14:22
sunpaw	So when my computerp comes on, HAL complains that the wifi card cannot be "attached". And indeed, i cannot get on my campus wifi connection with this laptop. Nobody seems to be able to help me. Im using an Acer Aspire 3050	14:22
simion314	hi, i have a problem with my internet connection, i connect to internet with a non popular modem(i am using a script to turn on the dialup modem) and if i try to configure a network card the internet will not work after restart, i have to disable the card and restart, where could be the problem?	14:24
waylandbill_	giuseppe: actually, I just tried saving a text file without the txt extension and then clicked on it in dolphin and it opened in kate.	14:24
Jucato	afaik, Linux doesn't need file extensions to identify files (although you can try to "fool" it sometimes)	14:26
BluesKaj	simion314, what network card and modem are you using ?	14:26
giuseppe	waylandbilll_: it's strange because sometimes in my case it saves as text and other times as a generic file	14:26
waylandbill_	giuseppe: I'm not certain, but konqueror and dolphin probably use 'file' to determine what a file is, not an extension.	14:26
Jucato	waylandbill_: afaik, KDE uses mimemagic of some sorts. not "file" (someone tried to explain it to me once. had to lie down after the lecture)	14:27
simion314	BluesKaj: i have a phone with a modem that i connect to internett, is a ZAPP z1130 but i elive that is not use outside romania	14:27
Jucato	giuseppe: how are you checking that it's a generic fle and not a text file?	14:28
sunpaw	So when my computerp comes on, HAL complains that the wifi card cannot be "attached". And indeed, i cannot get on my campus wifi connection with this laptop. Nobody seems to be able to help me. Im using an Acer Aspire 3050	14:28
waylandbill_	Jucato: interesting. file worked rather well. oh well. no biggie.	14:28
simion314	BluesKaj: ii install it by pasting some scripts in /etc/ppp and running a script after ading a line in etc/resolv.conf	14:28
waylandbill_	Jucato: hello BTW. :-D	14:29
Jucato	waylandbill_: file works. but afaik, KDE3 and file use different mime databases/algorithms I think. KDE4 will be using a more cross-desktop solution I think (fd.o)	14:31
Jucato	waylandbill_: hi too :)	14:31
simion314	BluesKaj:if i enable te network card something is breaking	14:31
giuseppe	Jucato: because if i create it in kwrite and save it without extension sometimes it saves as text other times as a generic file	14:31
Jucato	giuseppe: how are you determining that it's a generic file? by looking at the icon? by trying to open it?	14:31
giuseppe	Jucato: yes by looking at the icon	14:31
Jucato	giuseppe: that's not very reliable :)	14:31
Jucato	so it's not being saved as a generic file at all. just that the wrong icon is being used	14:31
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Jucato	hell I have some plain text files that are marked as header files (.h icons)	14:31
sunpaw	So when my computerp comes on, HAL complains that the wifi card cannot be "attached". And indeed, i cannot get on my campus wifi connection with this laptop. Nobody seems to be able to help me. Im using an Acer Aspire 3050	14:32
giuseppe	Jucato: everytime i have to choose a program to open it	14:32
Jucato	hm.. ok that's a different case	14:32
Jucato	and I doubt the checkbox in the Save file dialog is the solution...	14:33
BluesKaj	simion314, you could have a dialup and network card conflict...I think you must disable one if the modem is looking for dialup via cellphone service, but I'm not sure	14:33
giuseppe	Jucato: it happens that when i save a file as text sometimes it saves as a generic file an "empy icon"...	14:33
giuseppe	and i have to open with the dialog box and always choose kwrite or kate	14:34
Jucato	strange indeed... never had that behavior before	14:34
sunpaw	why does power manager show that my laptop battery is "not present"? I cant see how charged it is	14:35
giuseppe	Jucato: so is this some kind of feature? ;)	14:36
Jucato	or bug (on your end) :)	14:37
simion314	BluesKaj: i need to enable the network card, and i must find how to make the work without crashing, thx, i will post my problem in a forum and i will read more on google	14:38
BluesKaj	!pastebin \| simion314	14:39
ubotu	simion314: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	14:39
giuseppe	Jucato: i created another file and it saved as an "empty icon" it's marked as unkown file not generic sorry	14:40
giuseppe	unknown	14:40
BluesKaj	simion314 try to show in your errors in pastebin, if possible	14:40
Jucato	giuseppe: sorry. not really sure what's going one...	14:41
waylandbill_	giuseppe: what are the contents of the file?	14:41
giuseppe	Jucato: ok well... nevermind thanks anyway :)	14:41
giuseppe	waylandbyll_: text only	14:42
sunpaw	wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13) <== O.O	14:46
giuseppe	waylandbill_: i have some text files and other text files but marked as unknown files and i don't know why konqueror does that	14:47
simion314	BluesKaj: i do not have error just the modem close after 20 seconds after i start it, now i have the network card disable, ithis error happen even if i manualy configure the network car in /etc/network/interfaces so is not a bug of the GUI applet	14:53
* genii sips a coffee		14:53
ScottG	I know it's not the easiest thing in the world but I'm trying to get Java working in 64 bit Firefox..	14:53
ksivaji	genii hi	14:54
* genii hands ksivaji a coffee		14:54
BluesKaj	genii, we need your expertise , simion314 has a unique internet connection that needs configuring	14:56
waylandbill_	giuseppe: I imagine it has to do with what is in the file especially the first line.	14:56
genii	BluesKaj: Uhoh ;)	14:56
genii	simion314: Can you give me a brief description of your situation?	14:57
giuseppe	waylandbill_: it could be	14:58
BluesKaj	I am quoting from his initial question : "I connect to internet with a non popular modem(i am using a script to turn on the dialup modem) and if i try to configure a network card the internet will not work after restart, i have to disable the card and restart, where could be the problem?	14:58
giuseppe	waylandbill_: but nevermind thank you anyway :)	14:58
simion314	genii:i have a modem and a network card, i connect to internet with this modem,it is a phone in fact, if i enable the network card the modem will not work after restart	14:59
genii	simion314: In the ppp.options file you need to set a line which makes the modem and not the network card the default gateway whenever it is in use	15:01
genii	simion314: eg: replacedefaultroute	15:01
genii	Well, /etc/ppp/options	15:02
genii	Is the correct file	15:02
simion314	genii: yes it contains : lock	15:04
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simion314	genii: what this mean? i must set here a default gateway?	15:05
sillyforprez	any way i could get xmodmap /home/user/.xmodmap to run at startup?	15:06
boguh	hi, whats the standard kde ftp client?	15:07
Lynoure	boguh: you can use konqueror for basic getting of files...	15:07
BluesKaj	sillyforprez, what are you trying to do , defeat capslock ?	15:07
genii	simion314: The entire contents of the file: /etc/ppp/options contains only "lock" as it's contents?	15:08
sillyforprez	what do you mean? :P	15:08
boguh	Lynoure no i want an ftp client, not konqueror. i rememberd kbear but its not available annymore	15:08
sillyforprez	im trying to set up the hotkeys	15:08
Lynoure	boguh: well, you asked for the default...	15:08
sillyforprez	volume, play etc	15:08
Lynoure	or, well, standard.	15:08
simion314	genii: yes, just that	15:08
boguh	Lynoure ok, im searching for a stand alone application :)	15:09
genii	simion314: Is the modem device you are connectiong with called something like /dev/rfcomm0 or /dev/rfcomm1 or such? (Bluetooth)	15:09
Lynoure	boguh: I use command line ftp for most things. But I assume you want something graphical?	15:09
blizzzek	bye	15:10
boguh	Lynoure i used ncftp, but i want sth graphical, yes	15:10
Voyage_	pls help to install egg drop.	15:10
Voyage_	loguser1@pc1:~/Desktop/eggdrop1.6.18$ ./configure	15:10
Voyage_	This is Eggdrop's GNU configure script.	15:10
Voyage_	It's going to run a bunch of tests to hopefully make your compile	15:10
Voyage_	work without much twiddling.	15:10
Voyage_	checking for gcc... gcc	15:10
Voyage_	checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables	15:10
Voyage_	See `config.log' for more details.	15:10
Voyage_	loguser1@pc1:~/Desktop/eggdrop1.6.18$ make config	15:10
Voyage_	make: *** No rule to make target `config'. Stop.	15:10
BluesKaj	ok sillyforprez, try adding the file to autostart	15:11
Lynoure	!pastebin \| Voyage_	15:11
ubotu	Voyage_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	15:11
sillyforprez	i did that :/ didnt work	15:11
waylandbill_	!b-e: Voyage_	15:11
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about b-e: voyage_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	15:11
waylandbill_	!b-e \| Voyage_	15:11
simion314	genii: no it is a usb modem, the provider gives 4 files to paste them in etc/ppp including this option and it puts me to edit etc/resolv.conf to put an server ip there	15:11
ubotu	Voyage_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)	15:11
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genii	Voyage_: There is a package for eggdrop, you don't need to compile it	15:12
Lynoure	boguh: I'm on Debian now, so not sure what	15:12
genii	!info eggdrop	15:12
ubotu	eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.18-1.1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 464 kB, installed size 1144 kB	15:12
genii	eg	15:12
giuseppe	bye	15:12
Lynoure	boguh: ...what is in kubuntu, but there does exist kasablanca, which is a graphical ftp client for kde	15:13
genii	simion314: Ah, Ok. What are the names of the 4 files which it puts into /etc/ppp ?	15:13
genii	bah he got disconnected	15:14
Voyage_	genii, which one ?	15:14
* genii sips a coffee		15:14
genii	Voyage_: The ubot tells us the eggdrop version is the same as that you are trying to compile,eg: 1.6.18	15:15
ksivaji	genii how long you will sip a cup of coffee	15:15
genii	ksivaji: All day :)	15:16
genii	Although not the same cup	15:16
Voyage_	genii, ok. what is the package. but btw, why i am unable to compile?	15:16
ksivaji	genii my konversation is not blinking if i get a message	15:17
genii	Voyage_: The name of the package is just: eggdrop and it looks like you are unable to comile because as waylandbill_points out you need the prerequisite package build-essential in order to compile things.	15:17
kraut	moin	15:17
Voyage_	oh . ic	15:19
simi	genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45913/ this is the script that starts the internet named dialusb	15:20
Voyage_	genii, ok	15:20
genii	simi: OK, examining	15:20
simi	genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45914/ this is the chap-secrets and is one more file	15:21
genii	simi: In that script just add under defaultroute another line which is replacedefaultroue	15:21
Voyage_	in linux i cant type the letter that i can type in windows. why. e.g. press alt and stroke 569 and then release alt. a sign appears. this does not happens in linux. how can i do it ?	15:22
genii	simi: The first script	15:22
genii	simi: eg: replacedefaultroute \	15:22
thomas	hi	15:22
genii	simi: With the \	15:22
genii	work, AFK	15:23
thomas	in kpowersave, you have the option to change your screen's brightness, since a couple of days this doesnt work anymore :/ can anyone tell me which server, daemon, module takes care of this?	15:23
thomas	I was thinkin xorg, but nothing seems wrong over there	15:24
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thomas	anyone?	15:24
simi	genii: this is the last one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45915/, i will try that but whhat that mean?	15:24
Voyage_	how to set terminal encoding	15:24
Voyage_	?	15:24
thomas	what do you mean by that Voyage_	15:25
thomas	?	15:25
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Voyage_	thomas, in linux i cant type the letter that i can type in windows. why. e.g. press alt and stroke 569 and then release alt. a sign appears. this does not happens in linux. how can i do it ?	15:27
boguh	is there a way that konsole opens links in a browser?	15:27
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GuyFromHell	Anyone here use envy know what version of the nvidia driver it will install (more pointedly, will it install 169.04 beta?)?	15:28
simi	genii: i do not enderstend why to repplace default routher \ with \, what this mean?	15:29
GuyFromHell	wow my english fails >.>	15:29
thomas	Voyage_: can't help you with that one :/	15:29
genii	simi: When you have a network card and also a modem, the network card always becomes the first path to internet	15:29
simi	genii: and this replacement what does?	15:31
genii	simi: The option of: replacedefaultroute makes the modem the first place the computer looks for internet instead of to the network card	15:31
simi	genii: thx, must i restart the computer or only the pppd? thx again for your time	15:33
ubuntu	hello all,my system failed to boot everytime he stop at fsck and fail can anyone help me fix this ?	15:34
genii	GuyFromHell: envy is not an officially supported script, so you must ask the maintainer/inventor these questions and not in the official kubuntu support channel	15:34
genii	simi: No restart should be needed	15:34
genii	simi: Just the pppd or so	15:35
Voyage_	iam suing xchat. my channel name on the left does not go red or blinks when some one types my nick in the channel main and sends a message for me. how can i do it?	15:35
genii	work calls me, going /away	15:37
BluesKaj	Voyage_, settings/preferences/alerts	15:37
Voyage_	BluesKaj, that gives blinking tray or taskbar. but not the channel name in whihc i got a messeg. how will i know in which room i got a msg. if i have 10 rooms open.	15:38
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LeeJunFan	what's the install option to install a minimal/server system? I want no GUI, just a base system basically, it's been a while :)	15:38
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GuyFromHell	wrong button >.<	15:40
BluesKaj	Voyage_, in alerts choose blink taskbar on highlighted message then type your nick into the "nicknames to always highlight" textbar	15:43
Voyage_	BluesKaj, if i change my nick. ill always have to edit it	15:44
BluesKaj	<---old xchat user in windows but prefers konversation on linux	15:44
BluesKaj	don't change your nick	15:45
cabldevil_	do i have to install identd to get konversation to run on efnet?	15:45
Voyage_	how about adding $me	15:45
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GuyFromHell	someone answered my question and i just noticed it before i restarted X. thanks for your response, i couldn't read it but i think i saw the word 'unsupported' and 'third party', and if so i can figure out what you were saying. I just ended up installing the drivers by hand ;)	15:46
Voyage_	BluesKaj, no use	15:49
BluesKaj	cabldevil_, not necesary afaik , but registering your nick will help	15:49
Zombocom	is my wireless card mac adress the same as my computer's mac adress?	15:49
BluesKaj	Voyage_, use konversation. It's easier to configure	15:50
Voyage_	hmm. ok	15:50
Zombocom	anyone?	15:51
Zombocom	!mac	15:51
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	15:51
Zombocom	!Mac adress	15:51
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about mac adress - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	15:51
tung	I have some problems with ati accelerated graphics driver	15:52
BluesKaj	!mac address	15:52
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about mac address - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	15:52
Zombocom	BluesKaj: worth the try though, huh	15:52
BluesKaj	dunno about mac addresses 'n such	15:52
tung	when I play a game in full screen mode, there is nothing on the screen	15:53
tung	I'm using ATI radeon 200	15:53
darkness_s	Zombocom: every NIC in your system has a unique MAC	15:53
tung	anyone help me	15:54
BluesKaj	tung , on gutsy?	15:54
tung	yes	15:54
Zombocom	darkness_s: what's the command to get device info?	15:54
BluesKaj	tung, system settings /advanced/restricted driver enabled ?	15:55
tung	yes	15:55
tung	the status is in use	15:55
tung	my screen resolution is 1280:1024	15:56
darkness_s	Zombocom: try ifconfig	15:56
BluesKaj	ok tung, run ' fgl_glxgears ' in the terminal	15:57
darkness_s	Zombocom: it think it is HWaddr	15:57
tung	BluesKaj:there is a box spinning	15:58
Zombocom	darkness_s: there's no way that's a mac adress	15:58
neighborlee	Does anyone know if cnr/freespire is going to stay afloat ? ( Im asking due to fact that so long after a major release cnr software is still very buggy )	15:58
Zombocom	darkness_s: I mean i know that's where it should be but there's too many variables	15:58
BluesKaj	ok tung , now 'fglrxinfo' in the terminal	15:59
tung	BluesKaj:	16:00
tung	display: :0.0 screen: 0	16:00
tung	OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.	16:00
tung	OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon Xpress Series	16:00
tung	OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)	16:00
BluesKaj	tung, I'm at a loss ...your game should work :/	16:00
darkness_s	Zombocom: why not?, a normal MAC adress looks like this 00:14:a5:f2:14:22 right?	16:01
darkness_s	Zombocmo: from wikipedia The standard (IEEE 802) format for printing MAC-48 addresses in human-readable media is six groups of two hexadecimal digits, separated by hyphens (-) in transmission order, e.g. 01-23-45-67-89-ab	16:02
BluesKaj	tung, the radeon x200 card isn't the greatest graphics card for games even on windows ...it's suitable for videos etc but games require more graphics memory and processing power	16:03
tung	but I just play some simple, light games	16:03
BluesKaj	I have the same card tung , which games are you trying to play ?	16:04
tung	BluesKaj:triggers, openarena	16:04
tung	BluesKaj:bzflag	16:05
Rukus	hi, I am running compiz with XGL on an ATI card, and i like things full screen. SO naturally i set my kicker to allow applications to cover it and allow me to make it appear when i move the cursor to the screens edge. Except when i try to make it appaear by doing so, the kicker will not appear. Can anyone help me	16:06
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espacious	i disabled knetwork manager not to start at boot	16:20
espacious	now i cannot find it anymore	16:20
espacious	how do i start it in shell?	16:20
espacious	it is not in the kde menu...	16:21
XenThraL	knetworkmanager	16:21
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espacious	ty	16:21
XenThraL	yw	16:21
* genii sneaks away from work and sips a coffee		16:24
sillyforprez	how do i make a text file in konsole?	16:26
Tm_T	sillyforprez: nano file.txt ?	16:26
ybarras	bonsoir	16:27
sillyforprez	and then how do i save it? :P	16:27
Tm_T	sillyforprez: ctrl-X is exit, it'll ask saving	16:27
Vermux	does sh shell different than bash shell?	16:28
Tm_T	Vermux: yes	16:28
genii	yes	16:28
sillyforprez	hm, then it got saved as file.txt.save?	16:28
* genii ponders sh/bash/dash		16:28
Tm_T	sillyforprez: no	16:29
sillyforprez	aah, i just messed up :P	16:29
sillyforprez	i get it now.. thanks m8	16:29
Vermux	is is a different shell?	16:31
genii	Vermux: For some info on this whole bash/dash/sh thing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh	16:33
Vermux	genii: the default of useradd is SHELL=/bin/sh. But the shell Im working with is currently bash. Why is it not the same shell for both?	16:39
genii	Vermux: Obviously you did not read at all the link i provided. Comprehensive explanations are given there and so I will not bother here to reiterate	16:43
Vermux	genii: the opposite	16:45
Vermux	genii: it is fine. u dont have to help ifu dont want. keep the information for yourself- it is important	16:46
genii	Vermux: The default shell which runs scripts when sh is called during boot is dash. the default shell which is what users log into is bash	16:48
Daisuke_Ido	Vermux: your attitude doesn't help. your "i don't wanna do any work myself, tell me everything i have to do NOW!" mindset is in no way conducive to receiving help.	16:50
jpatrick	!patience \| Vermux	16:51
ubotu	Vermux: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines	16:51
Voyage_	i ./configure the tk right but when i make and make install. http://pastebin.ca/798152	16:52
Voyage_	whats wrong	16:52
jpatrick	Voyage_: did you do: "./configure --prefix=/usr"	16:52
Voyage_	no	16:52
Vermux	Daisuke_Ido: dont judge before u know the details. Documentation sometimes is not enough	16:52
Voyage_	jpatrick, no. but it gives the same result	16:53
jpatrick	Voyage_: I think you're missing header files..	16:54
Voyage_	jpatrick, whats that	16:54
Daisuke_Ido	your attitude is what i was commenting on, not the link. and as far as that goes, i did know the details. your comment about "fine, keep the information to yourself" was out of line.	16:54
jpatrick	Voyage_: source files that contain details for functions	16:54
Voyage_	jpatrick, so what should i do	16:55
Daisuke_Ido	now... back to what i was doing	16:55
jpatrick	Voyage_: can you give my the programs homepage?	16:55
simi	genii: it didn;t work, after i restart i had the same problem, do you know how linux knows where to search the internet, it must be something that all the application requesting the internet recivesm, i do not know how to search n google to find what i am looking for	16:55
Vermux	Daisuke_Ido: dear "judge" as I said u r not familiar with the details. my response was intended to comment on "Obviously you did not read at all the link i provided"- that was not reality	16:56
Voyage_	sure	16:56
Voyage_	http://www.tcl.tk/software/tcltk/8.4.html	16:56
genii	simi: I'll be available for assistance in about 10 minutes from now.	16:57
mith_	did anyone installed openttd correctly?	16:59
jpatrick	Voyage_: sorry, no idea what -dev packages you need to build that	16:59
Voyage_	hmm ok	17:00
Voyage_	Test run of ./eggdrop -v:	17:02
Voyage_	./eggdrop: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory	17:02
Voyage_	make: *** [modules] Error 127	17:02
Vermux	Daisuke_Ido: please, when u use quatations, write waht was written- dont change it. ("fine, keep the information to yourself") not what I wrote.	17:02
sitara_	Can I download a new ISO using a Kubuntu live cd and burn it to a new CD, when I have only one CD drive?	17:04
jhutchins	sitara_: Can't really.	17:05
sitara_	jhutchins: have to have the kubuntu live cd loaded the whole time?	17:06
jhutchins	sitara_: Yeah, it needs to be there for the software to load when you do the burn.	17:06
jhutchins	There may be another distro like tomsrtbt that can do it, I don't know.	17:07
jhutchins	Then you'd probably have to know how to burn with cdrecord though.	17:07
alberto	buona sera	17:07
sitara_	jhutchins: problem is I've got a screwed kubuntu/ubuntu system that won't connect to the network	17:07
sitara_	I can connect by booting from the live cd	17:08
sitara_	I want to re-install with the gnome desktop	17:08
jhutchins	sitara_: Ok, so download the iso with the live cd, then boot to the damaged system and burn.	17:08
jhutchins	don't need networking to burn.	17:09
sitara_	jhutchins:thanks duh :)	17:09
jhutchins	Hey, I've been on $150 service calls to plug in a monitor.	17:10
will	lucky you lol	17:10
Voyage_	i installed eggdrop from adept manager. where is it located to run ?	17:12
jpatrick	Voyage_: from the konsole	17:13
jhutchins	Voyage_: which eggdrop should tell you where it is.	17:14
* genii sips a coffee		17:14
sitara_	jhutchins:can you tell me where I'll find the download when I reboot?	17:14
Voyage_	how	17:15
jhutchins	sitara_: You tell it where to save.	17:16
jhutchins	sitara_: firefox usually puts stuff on the desktop, so you'd need to move it.	17:16
jhutchins	sitara_: mkdir /mnt/hd, mount your /home partition from the hd on that, move or save the iso.	17:17
jhutchins	sitara_: Know how to do that?	17:17
sitara_	jhutchins:yeah, but I'm using Konqueror. Does it also download to the Desktop?	17:17
alberto	goblin	17:19
alberto	msg NickServ HELP REGISTER	17:19
jhutchins	sitara_: konq should ask you where to save it.	17:19
jhutchins	alberto: /msg	17:19
alberto	thanks	17:19
jhutchins	/msg nickserv help register	17:19
sitara_	jhutchins:after downloading?	17:19
jhutchins	sitara_: Before iirc.	17:20
alberto	/msg NickServ HELP REGISTER	17:20
jhutchins	sitara_: So you'd want to have the HD mounted first.	17:20
genii	simi: OK. So as i gather: You boot the computer, run the script which directs pppd to use the usb modem, it then seems to connect and work. But then if you disconnect the modem connection, the regular ethernet connection seems not working. then if you start the ethernet connection, it is working but then the modem is not working, etc etc. Is this about it?	17:20
jhutchins	alberto: Your reply will be in the server window, not the channel window.	17:20
jhutchins	genii: well... no, shouldn't be.	17:21
jhutchins	genii: Shouldn't be difficult to have two interfaces up, that's how a router works.	17:21
genii	jhutchins: He has a usb dialup	17:21
genii	not usb ADSL/cable	17:22
jhutchins	genii: Figure a dial-up ISP uses a modem on one line and an ethernet connection on the other.	17:22
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genii	jhutchins: That is what I would hope, yes	17:22
jhutchins	genii: The first linux project I did was to create a router that automatically connected via the modem when anybody tried to acccess the 'net.	17:23
Serega	Hey, guys!	17:23
jhutchins	genii: So it talked to the local net via ethernet and a switch, and to the internet via dial-up.	17:23
Serega	my friend accidentaly installed (with --force) some version of xlib and he have troubles with it. Who does know how to reinstall native xlib?	17:24
Serega	I think it is an apt-related issue	17:24
genii	jhutchins: I suspected earlier his issue was that default route before script startup was ethX then needs to become pppX so that internet access used usb modem and not ethX. However i think it may be something deeper	17:25
jumperz	patata	17:25
jumperz	guarda sotto	17:25
jhutchins	genii: Yeah, you might need to tweak routing.	17:25
jhutchins	genii: It _should_ sort itself based on the address assigned to each interface.	17:26
jumperz	patata per scrivere usa lo spazio accanto al nick	17:27
genii	jhutchins: I am trying to find out from him what is the exact nature of what is operational/default at what stage so that it can be narrowed which interface needs to be exmained, etc etc	17:28
* genii tries to eat some lunch		17:28
bacli1	hello?	17:28
genii	simi: If you are around please describe again the nature of the issue	17:28
simi	genii: hi	17:29
genii	jhutchins: Incidentally the linuxrouter and fli4l projects were extremely interesting and useful :) (as a sidenote)	17:29
simi	genii: sorry of my nick has changed i am not used with xchat and simi is the user from ubuntu	17:30
genii	simi: that is fine :) If you need, choose a different name which does not belong to a registered user.	17:32
simi	genii: after i restart i try to connect the modem but after 20 seconds the phone stops, i observed this behevior befoure when i used gnome ppp to connect the modem, this to devices will not worck togheter after reboot	17:32
simi	genii: simion314 is my registred name, i set this to xchat but i do not know why it loged me with the sesion name	17:33
genii	simi: Before you restart and try to reconnect next time, pick up the telephone to see if there is still computer screeching sounds, or if for instance the dial tone sound is normal or different.	17:34
simi	genii: is not there some kind of config file that sets the mode how linux search the devices that connect to the internet, or it is not this the problem	17:34
genii	simi: If you hear still computer screeching sounds when computer has just been turned off, the modem is not being hung-up by the script	17:34
simi	genii: it works fine the 2 devices togheter, just after rebooting will not work	17:35
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=== bacli1 is now known as bcoffiel44
* bcoffiel44 absolute linux newb		17:37
bcoffiel44	hi all. are kubuntu and ubuntu the same aside from the kde/gnome interface?	17:37
simi	genii: it sais there to stop it with command: kill pppd but this not works, and why this meathers, if the modem is properly close?	17:37
genii	simi: Since you have indicated it is the modem which is being problemmatic after rebooting, that is the rreason i am asking you to physically lift up the telephone receiver and listen to see if the script that was provided to you is properly hanging the modem up. Or if it is not detecting a dialtone (eg you have messages waiting or there is something the script is not recognising as a dialtone and prevents it after 20 secinds or so	17:38
genii	from using it etc etc)	17:38
Jack111	hi	17:38
genii	simi: "kill pppd" will NOT hang up the modem	17:38
sillyforprez	what do i do when it says BREAK (install) on my compiz in adept? :/	17:38
Jack111	i s there a way to open kword or openoffice in one of the browser tabs?	17:38
Jack111	that could be helpful if you have to copy from webpages	17:39
genii	jhutchins: I think we are on the correct trail here :)	17:39
bcoffiel44	hi jack	17:40
Jack111	hi bcoffiel44	17:40
simi	genii: i will try tjat but lather, my ubuntu boots very slow , this is the next problem i want to solve, i belive it makes some suplimentar checks, it checks the file system and this takes ubuntu a lot of time, and other stuff, it boots in 2 or 3 minutes and i have 1200Mhz and 512 RAM	17:42
genii	Interesting. The AT DT command is indicating this may indeed be not a dialup modem which uses some telephone line but instead that it is a usb adsl modem. Since i sincerely doubt that #777 is some provider telephone number	17:43
jughead	Hi, I just changed out my video card to help figure out comp problems, I changed from an nvidia card to an ati card. When I had the nvidia card I ran "nvidia-settings" to change things like res, refresh, etc. is there something comparable for ati?	17:43
genii	eg: OK ATDT#777 \ CONNECT	17:44
sillyforprez	what do i do when the compiz packages in adept are broken?	17:45
astocko	jughead: You can try installing the restricted drivers for your ATI card first of all. Secondly, the nvidia drivers are Ubuntu community supported, the ATI drivers are not, so you'll get much better compatability using your nvidia card.	17:46
Jack111	nayone an idea how to open word or spreadsheet in a browser tab like in konqueror?	17:47
jughead	astocko, I installed the restricted driver using the restricted-driver-manager. The monitor was randomly going blank (linux&windows) so I changed out vid cards to narrow down the possibilities. I def. like nvidia more than ati. when nvidia installed, there was a control panel to change the resolution and refresh (a gui); but I don't see anything like that for ati	17:48
jughead	well; I just changed it through the kde control panel; hopefully the changes will stick on reboot	17:49
claetuss	jughead: I get sort of the same thing, resetting the monitor allows it to sync up, I'm also running ATI onboard	17:50
spcKDE	can amarok play file shared with samba on lan?	17:50
jughead	claetuss, how do you reset the monitor? do you mean ctl+alt+bksp for restarting X?	17:51
claetuss	jughead: there are quite a few tutorials out there on getting the res, etc. you want by dicking with your xorg.conf file	17:51
claetuss	jug: no, simplest possible terms: power button (I'm running an hp w2007, it tries to detect res/settings and hangs up)	17:52
ubuntu	Hello everyone	17:53
ubuntu	can i use kubuntu live-CD to install kubuntu_	17:55
claetuss	ubuntu, sure can, an installer icon should be on your desktop as soon as you boot	17:57
* genii sips a coffee, and thinks about ATDT#777 and Verizon EVDO		17:57
mith_	ubuntu: yes you can	17:59
mith_	it's more or less the same as ubuntu	17:59
claetuss	i havent had to use at cmds since 2400bps modem and mac lcIII ;-P	17:59
mith_	did anybody installed the kopete desklist?	18:00
Shoiab	Hello	18:03
angasule	what's a good app to use hot corners? mostly I'd like a "show desktop" in the upper left and I'm sure I can think of something for the lower right (both of which have no useful widget there anyway)	18:04
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Shoiab	I have install Kubuntu!!! but fail to browsing as well as chat behind ISA server!!! what should i do!! need a help or tutorial link!! is any one here can help to solve this problem???	18:05
SatManUK	i have a download stuck in my update server - when it tries to download it says its likely to cause a problem so quits - and its going around and around	18:06
sven_	Hi there, I have a test server running with ubuntu, and I would like it to run a time server. I have checked goodle, but I could not find good documentation on this subject.. Does anybody have a link / hint on how to do this?	18:06
claetuss	SatManUK, had a similar prob... try using apt-get install (whatever package you're trying to install)	18:07
SatManUK	libmjpeg tools	18:07
SatManUK	for mjpeg video capture	18:07
SatManUK	i don't even think i need it	18:07
Shoiab	I have install Kubuntu!!! but fail to browsing as well as chat behind ISA server!!! what should i do!! need a help or tutorial link!! is any one here can help to solve this problem???	18:07
SatManUK	its "non installed" but kubuntu has requested install of it	18:07
claetuss	The error message will be more verbose and probably be something stupid like a dependency your package manager can't resolve	18:08
CPrgmSwR2	What is a good alternative to swfmill for kubuntu because swfmill is not found?	18:08
astocko	sven: sudo apt-get install ntp	18:08
SatManUK	and remind me never to put a visualisation into full screen mode on my monitor it seriously destabalised my xserver	18:08
SatManUK	even restarting x ctrl backspace didn't recover it - i had to reboot the pc	18:09
claetuss	haha	18:09
sven_	astocko, I figured that one :) But what about configuration? I have no experience with that and I could not find a good tutorial on the subject	18:09
claetuss	that'll happen	18:09
astocko	sven_: Check out /etc/ntp.conf	18:09
astocko	sven_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#head-04e4a8decd8b98a33d0e9bd1209868a1022b7958 may be of help.	18:09
sven_	astocko, I will, thanks for the help!	18:09
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sven_	astocko, that page looks like it has something useful.. Thanks!	18:10
SatManUK	there was an error commiting changes - either the package failed to download or the commit would break packages	18:10
claetuss	Sat: that's what you got in the terminal window?	18:11
SatManUK	thats in adept updater	18:11
spcKDE	what are linux-restricted modules?	18:12
SatManUK	i can't get rid of it	18:12
SatManUK	i click cancel changes but it stays put	18:12
cheeprey	hello everybody	18:12
genii	spcKDE: Proprietary hardware drivers	18:12
spcKDE	genii: so no good if i remove..?	18:12
claetuss	sorry, I should've specified to use terminal window. That's the same error I was getting	18:13
genii	spcKDE: It depends if your system is using any of the proprietary drivers or not.	18:13
claetuss	can you close adept? maybe just kill it?	18:13
genii	spcKDE: If you installed ATI/Nvidia/broadcom stuff for instance from restricted-manager it would not be prudent	18:14
spcKDE	genii: coz i removed nvidia-kernell-common , becouse i dont have nvidia, but i have for example ndiswrapper set up and now im worried those packages can screw sth up	18:14
coreymon77	spcKDE: what are you using ndis for?	18:15
spcKDE	genii: a usb wlan adapter	18:15
spcKDE	coreymon77: usb wlan adapter	18:15
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coreymon77	spcKDE: you sure you need to use ndis for it?	18:15
spcKDE	sure	18:15
spcKDE	its an trident usb	18:16
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spcKDE	that was the only way to get it work	18:16
coreymon77	spcKDE: okay	18:16
coreymon77	spcKDE: just making sure	18:16
coreymon77	spcKDE: so, whats the poblem	18:16
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Nightwarrior	I am new with linux/kubuntu	18:17
coreymon77	Nightwarrior: welcome!	18:17
Nightwarrior	I can't find out how to install Beryl	18:17
coreymon77	!compiz \| Nightwarrior	18:17
ubotu	Nightwarrior: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	18:17
spcKDE	coreymon77: u have another way to do it? maybe? coz im getting some wired stuff with knetwork manager, wlan networks are not found at startup of kubuntu so i must wait or go and change to gnome and than back	18:17
Nightwarrior	kk	18:18
coreymon77	spcKDE: whats the specific card	18:18
sven_	!aptgix	18:18
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about aptgix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	18:18
sven_	!aptfix	18:18
ubotu	If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »	18:18
spcKDE	coreymon77: the problem i was askig is if it is safe to remove some packages that were arked as REMOVE when i mar REMOVE nvidia-kenel-common, becouse i dont need that i think coz it's a old lappy with s3 xideo card	18:19
spcKDE	coreymon77: aaa lappy keyboard is to small:D	18:20
coreymon77	spcKDE: it should be, im not sure though	18:21
spcKDE	coreymon77: what shoul be?	18:21
spcKDE	coreymon77: did u anderstood my q?	18:21
genii	spcKDE: At any rate, you can find if you are using some restricted drivers or not etc by kdesu restricted-manager the it should come up with info about anything relevant.	18:22
Nightwarrior	What do I need to add for compiz in Adapt thing?	18:22
genii	spcKDE: If you are not using any currently (even if they are available) you can likely remove restricted-modules package	18:22
spcKDE	genii: kk got it thanks	18:23
genii	spcKDE: np	18:23
Nightwarrior	I did request install at the Compiz thing is that right or?	18:23
spcKDE	genii: it said your hardware dont need any drivers...bla bla bal	18:24
spcKDE	nice	18:24
spcKDE	genii: those packages are quite big	18:25
MarcC	how do I get mp3s working in amarok?	18:25
coreymon77	!mp3	18:25
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	18:25
Pollywog	is there a way to get Linux running as a guest OS in VirtualBox to have the correct time after a reboot?	18:26
Pollywog	other than to run ntpdate at each reboot	18:26
spcKDE	genii: oh btw i have another q, can i make amarok play files over lan, i mean samba sharing..	18:27
Nightwarrior	hmm stilld ont real	18:28
Nightwarrior	woops	18:28
MarcC	spcKDE: I mounted my share using a CIFS howto and it worked fine	18:28
Nightwarrior	still don't really get it	18:28
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spcKDE	MarcC: yes i was thinking to mount but is there no other way?	18:29
MarcC	spcKDE: well, you can certainly play over the share using e.g. VLC, but it's not very fun	18:30
spcKDE	MarcC: can u maybe paste me the link of that specific tutorial ?	18:30
MarcC	maybe u hold on while I google 4 u	18:30
spcKDE	MarcC: i want to play mp3's	18:30
genii	spcKDE: For that q you'll have to wait til some amarok-familiar person replies :)	18:31
spcKDE	will google it to	18:31
MarcC	spcKDE: mp3 support and samba/cifs are two separate issues	18:31
spcKDE	genii: huh ty, will spam it again_D	18:31
spcKDE	MarcC: i dont get it?	18:31
astocko	spcKDE: Accessing shares over cifs has nothing to do with playing mp3s.	18:32
MarcC	spcKDE: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288534	18:32
spcKDE	MarcC: its not enough just to mount a share?	18:32
MarcC	spcKDE: you can mount a share and play OGG files fine, but MP3s are restricted, so you'll need to install MP3 support too.	18:32
Nightwarrior	simple question for gutsy download wut one I need to download? Alternate or Desktop CD? For gutsy	18:32
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ardchoille	Nightwarrior: The desktop cd is the live cd, the alternate cd is text-mode only	18:33
spcKDE	MarcC: huh tnx will do some resarch	18:33
Pollywog	alternate is for laptops and other situations where the desktop version does not work because of the graphical installer	18:33
Nightwarrior	So I guess the Desktop I want to update from Feisty to gutsy	18:33
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ardchoille	!upgrade \| Nightwarrior	18:34
ubotu	Nightwarrior: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes	18:34
Pollywog	Nightwalker-: if you want to do a clean install, yes	18:34
Pollywog	oops Nightwarrior	18:34
MarcC	darnit, amarok won't play mp3s even though I've installed every last restricted library there is :-/	18:34
Pollywog	dang completion	18:34
* Pollywog hits the completion thingy		18:35
ardchoille	Pollywog: I can't tell you how many times tab completion has bitten me	18:35
jhutchins	People who choose nicks that start with the same words are partly to blame.	18:39
* genii sics his TAB key on ardchoille		18:39
ardchoille	Hi genii	18:39
genii	ardchoille: Hiyas :)	18:40
genii	MarcC: libxine1-ffmpeg and also make sure amarok is using xine eg: amarok-xine	18:43
MarcC	thanks genii - tried that...apparently though, only some mp3s will not play	18:44
MarcC	but they will play fine in other programs, like audacious	18:44
genii	Probably malformed tags or such	18:45
MarcC	it won't let me play streaming stations on its list :( same error msg.	18:46
MarcC	like afterhours fm, bassdrive, etc.	18:46
genii	For those you need realplayer	18:46
MarcC	genii: then why do they come preinstalled in Amarok's station list?	18:47
anton_	Hi, I try to open adept, but it crashes...this is the backtrace: http://pastebin.org/9476	18:47
anton_	"caused signal 6 (SIGABRT)"	18:47
genii	MarcC: Dunno	18:49
anton_	Hi, I try to open adept, but it crashes...this is the backtrace: http://pastebin.org/9476 <---Anyone? :(	18:53
* MarcC switches to rhythmbox		18:54
ardchoille	I didn't realise kde came with tools to start apps in the systray or in another desktop, nice.	18:58
Doctor_Nick	is there a driver for windows that allows you to mount and modify linux partitions	18:59
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anton_	Guys, I seriously need help with this one. My adept manager is crashing, it says the database is locked and it says another adept instance is running. However, I sudokilled all the adept-processes, and it still won't work. This is the backtrace: http://pastebin.org/9476	19:06
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=== ubuntu_ is now known as cayetano1
cayetano1	hi@all	19:08
a	a	19:08
cayetano1	hab heute versucht kubuntu zu instalieren auf nem vista rechner, und jetzt ist er platt	19:09
llutz	!de \| cayetano1	19:10
ubotu	cayetano1: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	19:10
cayetano1	ups, sry	19:10
anton_	!se \| anton_	19:10
cayetano1	i thougt this was the german room, sorry	19:10
cox	hello all, ive seen people refer to ICS sharing in firestarter to share a bridged internet connection, is there a command to do the same thing?	19:11
nosrednaekim	cox: as a general rule in linux,of you can do it in a GUI, you can do it on the command line	19:12
cox	nosrednaekim: haha	19:13
nosrednaekim	cox: the gentoo-wiki has some good tutorials..	19:13
nosrednaekim	with some retty technical stuff like that	19:13
nosrednaekim	*pretty	19:13
martijn81	i cannot get a file kde4daily-0_0_1_r734472-qcow.img.bz2 decompressed... do i have to install some sort of tool?	19:14
anton_	I tried looking at bugs.kde.org but I couldn't find an answer to Adept saying that the database is locked...Signal 6 SIGABRT...will I have to format the disk or something?	19:14
SSJ_GZ	martijn81: #kde4daily, please :)	19:14
nosrednaekim	!adeptfix	19:15
ubotu	If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »	19:15
cox	nosrednaekim: cheers	19:15
morphine	Well folks, it finally happened: the upgrade from feisty to gutsy hosed my system	19:16
emilsedgh	SSJ_GZ: looks like that kde4daily helped.nice job :)	19:16
SSJ_GZ	emilsedgh: Thanks :)	19:16
Pollywog	morphine: did you forget to upgrade Feisty first?	19:17
nosrednaekim	morphine: you just upgraded now? or has it been upgrade for awhile	19:17
morphine	Pollywog: oh, I meant from feisty to gutsy ;)	19:17
anton_	I get this error when trying to run apt-get update:	19:17
anton_	E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)	19:17
anton_	E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?	19:17
anton_	(sorry for paste)	19:17
nosrednaekim	!adeptfix \| anton_	19:17
ubotu	anton_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »	19:17
genii	anton_: Use sudo	19:18
morphine	The upgrade manager program kept crashing and leaving my machine in a weird halfway state	19:18
Pollywog	morphine: yes I know, but did you upgrade Feisty to the latest packages in Feisty before upgrading to Gutsy?	19:18
anton_	genii: I did.	19:18
morphine	Pollywog: yes, I did that	19:18
Pollywog	k	19:18
nosrednaekim	Pollywog: the word is "update"	19:18
genii	Also close anything else that may be using it, open update windows, etc etc	19:18
morphine	apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade, yeah I did all that before starting on the adventure	19:18
Pollywog	nosrednaekim: yes thanks I meant to say update	19:18
anton_	genii: I have done that. Tried rebooting too. Still the same	19:19
Pollywog	the fingers did not listen	19:19
morphine	So anyway after the ipgrade manager program crashed I did some combination of apt-get dist-upgrade and do-release-upgrade	19:19
genii	anton_: then do the !aptfix	19:19
morphine	And although that seemed to work, and machine still boots, I have no network interfaces, can't launch KDE, and my system is generally hosed	19:19
nosrednaekim	morphine: any errors?	19:19
morphine	It boots with the new kernel and all	19:19
morphine	nosrednaekim: any errors where?	19:19
nosrednaekim	morphine: well, ok... does KDM(the login manager) start?	19:20
morphine	nosrednaekim: no	19:20
morphine	nosrednaekim: when i disabled the nvidia driver and went back to nv I could launch xfce by typing startx	19:20
nosrednaekim	morphine: run a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"	19:20
anton_	Great! Works now. Big thanks!	19:20
morphine	nosrednaekim: but still no luck getting kde or kdm started	19:20
morphine	nosrednaekim: I did that	19:21
morphine	nosrednaekim: when the machine boots it does throw some error about exim	19:21
morphine	when I try to start kde -- startkde -- I get some kinit error	19:21
morphine	More troubling, I no longer have any network interfaces	19:21
nosrednaekim	morphine: run "startx && startkde"	19:22
morphine	nosrednaekim: I tried that too, and it just starts xfce ;)	19:22
morphine	So i am thinking that maybe the easiest solution is to wipe the slate clean and resintall	19:22
Pollywog	morphine: the exim error is probably because exim can't find network interfaces	19:23
morphine	I have / and /home on different disks, so I think it should be pretty painless	19:23
nosrednaekim	morphine: run a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" and select kdm as your default login manager	19:23
nosrednaekim	morphine: ah, if you have that...no problem XD	19:23
Pollywog	morphine check the udev entries for your interfaces	19:23
morphine	nosrednaekim: do you think that is recommended? because I am a bit worried about losing some stuff	19:23
nosrednaekim	morphine: you won't lose a thing unless you stored stuff in / or installed programs not in the repositories.	19:24
morphine	Well, some configuration stuff in /etc and whatnot	19:24
a	à	19:24
Pollywog	morphine: make sure the names for the interfaces in udev match the ones in /etc/network/interfaces	19:24
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morphine	nosrednaekim: but I guess my concern is this: my system ALWAYS get hosed when I upgrade	19:25
nosrednaekim	morphine: do you use automatix or anything like that?	19:25
morphine	nosrednaekim: nope	19:25
Pollywog	70-persistent-net.rules	19:25
morphine	nosrednaekim: do alot of people have problems with this? if so, I might switch to another distro	19:25
Pollywog	70-persistent-net.rules	19:26
nosrednaekim	morphine: occasionally there are problems, I wouldn't say its rare, but i'm sure you'll find upgrade hassles in any distro except the likes of gentoo and arch.	19:26
Pollywog	morphine /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules	19:26
morphine	I was thinking debian	19:26
nosrednaekim	morphine: yeah, well try sidux... they have a nice rolling release.	19:27
anton_	Where is the sessions manager in Kubuntu?	19:27
Pollywog	mporphine: I am having the same problems with upgrades in *ubuntu but it happened in Debian only once when it switched to 2.6 kernels	19:28
Pollywog	and I had a 2.4 kernel	19:28
nosrednaekim	anton_: systemsettings->advanced	19:28
morphine	Pollywog: so you are using debisn now?	19:28
Pollywog	morphine: no, still kubuntu but I upgrade one system at a time	19:28
Pollywog	and carfully	19:29
Pollywog	carefully	19:29
morphine	haha	19:29
Pollywog	I had to do a clean reinstall on one	19:29
boggystudios	is there a probram that will capture video from a mini dv cam via usb?	19:29
morphine	When I upgraded kubuntu on my laptop it broke some stuff too	19:29
boggystudios	*program	19:29
anton_	nosrednaekim: Thank you.	19:29
nosrednaekim	boggystudios: kino might	19:29
morphine	But that involved ndiswrapper and custom alsa install, so that was understandable	19:29
Pollywog	and the next time it happens I will move that system to Debian	19:29
boggystudios	nosrednaekim: kino only has firewire support	19:30
morphine	So sidux or debian have rolling upgrades, right?	19:30
morphine	What is the advantage to doing it the (k)ubuntu way?	19:30
Pollywog	morphine: the last Debian I used was Etch, which did not detect hardware as well as *ubuntu does	19:30
nosrednaekim	morphine: I do not think debain has rolling releases.	19:30
Pollywog	morphine: if you are planning to put Debian on a laptop that has wifi, it might not work	19:31
judgen	how do i change the user agent in konqueror	19:31
morphine	Pollywog: I had to use ndsiwrapper with kubuntu anyway	19:31
Pollywog	I also had problems with wifi in Xandros but not in Freespire	19:31
Pollywog	morphine: oic	19:32
morphine	sigh	19:32
morphine	Well, I think I will give kubuntu one more try	19:32
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luigi	ot question: wath kind of application do you use for sync your mobile to pc?	19:32
Pollywog	kpilot for Palm devices	19:33
nosrednaekim	boggystudios: no idea then	19:33
ardchoille	judgen: Tools > Change Browser Identification	19:33
cybrhuman	Hi, I got a dual boot pc which I will make a single-boot kubuntu, and wonder how this is done best. (can I just set kubuntu partition active partition and format windows?)	19:33
morphine	so when I reinstall kubuntu and I point /home to my current /home, when I launch apps like kmail will they look as they did before the install with all the email etc?	19:33
luigi	sonyericsson mobile z610... i should sync mms too	19:34
Pollywog	morphine: yes it should look the same	19:34
Pollywog	if you keep /home	19:34
morphine	Pollywog: and do I need to keep the username the same also?	19:35
morphine	I geuss I would huh	19:35
Pollywog	morphine: if you don't, you will have some work to do	19:35
Pollywog	I would add the new user and then copy the old files and directories over after changing ownerships	19:36
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morphine	ok, thanks for your advice guys	19:37
nosrednaekim	cybrhuman: what do you want to do with the windows part?	19:38
nosrednaekim	*partition	19:38
cybrhuman	nosrednaekim: just have it for saving stuff	19:39
cybrhuman	nosrednaekim: maybe I will move /home there so I can reinstall easy if things bug without thinking to much about backup	19:40
nosrednaekim	cybrhuman: the second option is slightly more difficult,but for the first all you need to do is wipe that parition and reformat ext3	19:41
cybrhuman	nosrednaekim: this wont screw my boot?	19:42
nosrednaekim	cybrhuman: not if you are using grub.	19:42
nosrednaekim	(as opposed to the windows bootloader)	19:42
usuario	hola	19:43
thomas_newbie__	do you guys know how to search for a word ignoring case using 'grep', without using the -i option. ?	19:44
cybrhuman	nosrednaekim: I use grub, so then I just format. one more question, windows is on sda2 and kubuntu on sda3, sda2 is active partition. this doesn't matter?	19:44
judgen	hehe im doing a dist-upgrade... it will probably botch my system again =)	19:50
judgen	but well see	19:50
judgen	btw any good irc clients that you recomend? i prefer bitchx but its nice to see a user list	19:52
thomas_newbie__	do you guys know how to search for a word ignoring case using 'grep', without using the -i option. ?	19:52
genii	thomas_newbie__: the -i switch of grep is to specify ignore case in the text to follow. so no.	19:54
thomas_newbie__	genii: there is a way	19:54
genii	thomas_newbie__: Ask in #bash	19:55
thomas_newbie__	so like i want this: "grep searchword" file1	19:55
llutz	thomas_newbie__: obsoleted grep -y ;)	19:55
thomas_newbie__	lol	19:56
llutz	thomas_newbie__: why no -i	19:56
thomas_newbie__	llutz: because I have to :S	19:56
genii	maybe use the -P (interpret as Perl regex)	19:57
spcKDE	genii: i know thats faq but hod do i install java support for yotube etc for konkuerror and firefox, opera...	19:58
judgen	spcKDE if you want java you can type in the terminal "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin" and for flash "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"	20:01
genii	spcKDE: they are somewhat different questions all in one there. package sun-java6-jre is the base. then for firefox there is a specific runtime package, etc etc	20:01
kay	anyone able to help with a 'c' programming question, or know where to ask for such help?	20:01
judgen	BudgetDedicated : are you the one that has the ubuntu repos for wine?	20:02
genii	But firefox for example has 1.4 packaged in it's plugin eg: j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin	20:02
pacman	what extension for Totem do I need to play Real videos?	20:07
pacman	I have a video with a .rl	20:07
Rukus	hi, I am running compiz with XGL on an ATI card, and i like things full screen. SO naturally i set my kicker to allow applications to cover it and allow me to make it appear when i move the cursor to the screens edge. Except when i try to make it appaear by doing so, the kicker will not appear. Can anyone help me	20:07
t4m1n0	I have a problem opening, rmvb file with MPlayer. I've followed some how to and did everything for enabling those codecs (I even builded i t from source) but I still can't open rmvb file, it says : Failed to open file ...nameofthefile.rmvb. Does anyone know heere where to get more details why I can't open this file?	20:08
RogueJediX	t4m1n0: So you already installed kubuntu-restricted-extras?	20:09
t4m1n0	RogueJediX, Im on ubuntu	20:09
Rukus	try #ubuntu as well for help	20:10
Rukus	i', sure you did tho	20:11
RogueJediX	t4m1n0: Okay, so did you try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras, then?	20:12
t4m1n0	RogueJediX, nop	20:12
RogueJediX	t4m1n0: Do apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras and try running mplayer again after that	20:13
t4m1n0	RogueJediX, ok..	20:13
RogueJediX	Sorry, I meant sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras	20:13
Rukus	hi, I am running compiz with XGL on an ATI card, and i like things full screen. SO naturally i set my kicker to allow applications to cover it and allow me to make it appear when i move the cursor to the screens edge. Except when i try to make it appaear by doing so, the kicker will not appear. Can anyone help me	20:15
tubular	can anyone help me with a networking issue? DNS is broken, but all other networking works	20:15
Riddell	** testers needed http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/cds/kubuntu-kde4-20071126.iso	20:16
t4m1n0	RogueJediX, It's the same error	20:16
t4m1n0	couldn't open file...	20:16
trappist	Riddell: is that based on gutsy or hardy?	20:16
TimS	How can I tell what a key is mapped as? as in its name?	20:17
RogueJediX	t4m1n0: I'm out of ideas. Try on #ubuntu or #mplayer	20:17
Riddell	trappist: gutsy for now, hardy is far too unstable	20:17
tubular	anybody? when I have both wireless and wired up at the same time, dna just stops working altogether until I bring eth0 down and up again	20:20
tubular	dns just stops working, that is	20:20
BluesKaj	t4m1n0,open mplayer preferences and select the video tab then X11 OpenGL ..you have to restart mplayer	20:20
Cannoli	!themes	20:20
ubotu	Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy	20:20
spcKDE	genii: i got work youtube in opera and ff easyli just installed that packages u typed	20:23
spcKDE	genii: bu konqueor?	20:23
t4m1n0	BluesKaj, the same error: couldn't open the file	20:23
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Cannoli	in the shortcuts menu, what is xf86refresh for example	20:24
Cannoli	?	20:24
spcKDE	!konqueror flash	20:24
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror flash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	20:24
BluesKaj	t4m1n0, have you tried realmedia/realplayer ?	20:24
old_toby	hello everybody!	20:25
Cannoli	hiya old_toby	20:26
old_toby	i would have a beginner question about kubuntu!	20:27
old_toby	i downloaded the amd64 version and when trying to install, my screen just goes black and nothing else happens... anyone know what i could do?	20:27
spcKDE	!konqueror	20:28
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	20:28
X2B	Hey people, one question: I would like to put some of the XF86*** keys to another use than the default, but I cannot map them via kcontrol, because they are already assigned to e.g. "mute" or "volume up". How can I free them?	20:28
BluesKaj	t4m1n0, http://www.real.com/linux?pcode=rn&am	20:30
Cannoli	BluesKaj: would u by any chance know how i can disable the mmb paste function in konqueror?	20:31
BluesKaj	mmb?	20:32
Cannoli	middle mouse button	20:32
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BluesKaj	Cannoli, I haven't the faintest , sorry :/	20:35
Cannoli	its all good	20:36
Cannoli	thanks anyways	20:36
trappist	old_toby: there are quite a few amd64-specific bugs. whether you're a beginner or not, if this is to be a desktop machine I'd recommend installing the i386 version.	20:37
Rukus	hi, I am running compiz with XGL on an ATI card, and i like things full screen. SO naturally i set my kicker to allow applications to cover it and allow me to make it appear when i move the cursor to the screens edge. Except when i try to make it appaear by doing so, the kicker will not appear. Can anyone help me	20:38
old_toby	ok.... so i will be able to have that one work? i tried it before, but it was unable to have x.org (or whatever this is called) work on tty7... do you know about this?	20:38
trappist	Rukus: kde's concept of full screen and compiz's concept of fullscreen aren't quite the same	20:39
Rukus	trappist: how do i make them worked together on it	20:40
trappist	Rukus: they're not really aware of each other, so I'm not sure it's possible, but you might get close to what you want by choosing which app's "fullscreen" to use.	20:42
kokos	witam :)	20:45
genii	spcKDE: flashplugin-nonfree normally provides what is needed for konqueror	20:47
genii	There seems still a bug with it, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/92207 for details	20:48
atlfalcons866	is kde4 stable enoug to use	20:49
Rukus	trappist: i am not sure how i would do that, or what u mean	20:49
judgen	I did a dist-upgrade to gutsy, and now the totem mozilla plugin wont start...	20:52
M_A_K	I just applied for an ssl certificate. Where should I put it on the server?	20:52
judgen	all video places says "no video"	20:52
MarcC	what is "apport"?	20:53
MarcC	!apport	20:53
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about apport - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	20:53
genii	!info apport	20:53
ubotu	apport: automatically generate crash reports for debugging. In component main, is optional. Version 0.98 (gutsy), package size 141 kB, installed size 456 kB	20:53
MarcC	oh :D	20:53
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sigma	damn that kde rc1 release is so bad	20:53
* MarcC killsall apport		20:54
old_toby	did anybody have the same problem as i did, or does anybody know what i should do?	20:54
sigma	i got the open suse live cd and it just hangs on most commands, one wonders how they are going to make the december release date	20:55
M_A_K	SHould I put the ssl cert files in /etc/ssl/certs ?	20:55
Ahmuck	what is an OEM install for kubuntu?	20:55
sigma	does anyone know how to force wine to look like kde?	20:55
tekteen	Ahmuck: that is for giving it to another person	20:55
sigma	ahmuck: oem install is for businesses installing on multiple machines	20:56
spcKDE	genii: now is magicaly working	20:56
tekteen	Ahmuck: It stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer	20:56
delecti	hey i got an issue... driving me bonkers	20:56
genii	Ahmuck: When it first boots it asks the user for settings instead of the settings being put in during install.	20:56
delecti	i cant drag windows	20:56
delecti	compiz running.. freshly	20:56
delecti	things are working... i just cant drag windows at all.	20:57
Dragonath	I guess you'd rather have to go to the compiz channel on this server	20:57
Dragonath	!compiz	20:57
ubotu	Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	20:57
delecti	hrm	20:57
tekteen	Ahmuck: It is used so when you first turn it on (after a tech guy modified it) it will ask you what lang. u speak and what the username should be	20:57
delecti	i will check the channel	20:57
spcKDE	genii: no its not it stops at loading.. wil chech that bug	20:57
delecti	nobody home in that channle	20:59
tubular	can anyone help me with a networking issue? DNS is broken, but all other networking works. It only happens after I have both wireless and wired up at the same time, and I have to bring the wired interface down and up again to fix it	21:00
genii	spcKDE: firefox is likely better for youtube watching	21:00
delecti	bah hahaha	21:00
delecti	fixed it	21:00
delecti	there is a setting.... called Window Move	21:01
delecti	remember that.	21:01
spcKDE	genii: yp	21:02
DaSkreech	tackat: ping	21:04
Ahmuck	on disk formating, what is the difference of general or LVM?//	21:04
Fleck	name resolving is sooo slow... in kubuntu	21:05
Fleck	ipv6 blasklisted	21:05
Fleck	name servers changed	21:05
Cannoli	can anyone point me in the right direction to installing themes for kubuntu	21:05
Fleck	nothing helped	21:05
drc822	where is the kde default file manager defined?	21:05
Ahmuck	Cannoli: installing themes or getting them	21:06
Cannoli	both	21:06
DaSkreech	!themes	21:06
ubotu	Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy	21:06
Ahmuck	Cannoli: kde-look	21:06
DaSkreech	!changethemes	21:06
ubotu	To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy. Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes	21:06
Cannoli	oh awesome	21:06
Cannoli	thank you	21:06
DaSkreech	ubotu: Thank you	21:06
ubotu	You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)	21:06
Ahmuck	!LVM	21:06
ubotu	Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO	21:06
Cannoli	hahah	21:07
tekteen	thank you ubotu	21:07
drc822	anyone using opera and had some core dump problems+	21:07
drc822	and hopefully solved them	21:07
tekteen	:-(	21:07
Cannoli	lmao	21:07
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Fleck	anyone?	21:08
Cannoli	ubotu: domo arigato mr. roboto	21:08
majnoon	i was wondering what does kondemand DO ??	21:08
Ahmuck	http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/benefitsoflvmsmall.html	21:08
DaSkreech	Fleck: how slow?	21:08
Ahmuck	ah, so LVM is better i see	21:08
karthikp	Quick question. I find that the gutsy usage of CPU is always really high. Why's that?	21:08
Ahmuck	!kondemand	21:08
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kondemand - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	21:08
karthikp	Numbers: It always idles around 20%.	21:09
Fleck	daDudeMan werry slow	21:09
DaSkreech	karthikp: Strigi perhaps?	21:09
karthikp	Turned off that one.	21:09
majnoon	tried ubuntu forums AND google (nothing)	21:09
Fleck	daDudeMan 1min to open google.com sometimes	21:09
max__	ciao	21:10
majnoon	hi hi	21:10
max__	ciao	21:11
Cannoli	aww guys	21:12
Cannoli	i miss my girlfriend	21:12
Cannoli	:(	21:12
Cannoli	</3	21:12
karthikp	So, even when practically nothing's running (nothing in the systray or in kicker), the load is always high.	21:12
karthikp	I wonder if others have seen something similar.	21:12
ardchoille	Ahmuck: I'd like to know what kondemand is too. There's no man page for it, there's no entry in /usr/share/doc, google is no help	21:12
BluesKaj	majnoon, ondemand is a CPU speed setting under cpufrequtils ...if that's what you're referring to.	21:12
jmichaelx	i am wanting to unzip a .pdf file compressed as a .zip. how do i unzip it with tar? what flags should i use? i tried 'tar -xfv' with no luck	21:13
ardchoille	jmichaelx: unzip file.zip	21:14
tekteen	jmichaelx: type "unzip FILE"	21:14
jmichaelx	ty much	21:14
genii	jmichaelx: tar is for tar. gzip/gunzip etc is for zip	21:14
jmichaelx	ok, makes sense	21:14
genii	well, gz. zip/unzip for zip	21:15
* genii looks for more caffeine nectar		21:15
* ardchoille hands genii a coffee		21:15
genii	ardchoille is my new hero :)	21:17
* genii sips		21:17
tekteen	genii knows CPR (coffee provides rescesitation)	21:17
genii	heh	21:17
ardchoille	hehe	21:17
tekteen	:-)	21:17
ardchoille	coffee provides respite	21:17
jmichaelx	how does one delete a dir that is not empty from the command line?	21:19
tekteen	jmichaelx: rm -r	21:19
jmichaelx	sorry for all the newb questions	21:19
jmichaelx	ty	21:19
tekteen	also use -v!	21:20
tekteen	no !	21:20
tekteen	just v	21:20
jmichaelx	to make it verbose?	21:20
tekteen	yep	21:20
jmichaelx	k, ty	21:20
tekteen	tells u what u r deleting	21:20
foenig	hi@all	21:22
tekteen	hi	21:22
foenig	how can i record an audio stream in kubuntu	21:22
tekteen	mplayer does it (forgot how)	21:23
majnoon	BluesKaj, i just saw it in ps -A	21:23
majnoon	at least you point me it right DIRECTION	21:24
majnoon	ty ty ty ty	21:24
Cannoli	1lock	21:24
Cannoli	!lock	21:24
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	21:24
Cannoli	is there any way i can lock kubuntu	21:24
ardchoille	Cannoli: ctrl+alt+l	21:25
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Cannoli	awesome thanks	21:25
ardchoille	yw	21:25
ardchoille	Cannoli: iirc, that simply invokes the screensaver and locks too	21:25
Cannoli	0o0o sweet	21:26
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ardchoille	Whoa, I just discovered "locate:foo" in konqueror	21:34
streitimuck	Hy ;)	21:35
streitimuck	ich hab probleme mit dem Adept Manager kann mir da vll jemand helfen?	21:38
ScorpKing	!de	21:38
ubotu	Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	21:38
streitimuck	oh thx :)	21:38
sorin	what package do I have to install to get man pages for C methods ???	21:47
sorin	like man fopen	21:47
sorin	please ... I forgot to say please	21:47
sorin	sry	21:47
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e66	is there any way to get kubuntu from osn	21:49
slow-motion	hallo	21:49
sorin7486	osn ?	21:49
e66	opensource network	21:49
sorin7486	I don't even know what that is ... I should check it out ...	21:50
sorin7486	:)	21:50
e66	i am talking about local osn office?	21:50
e66	in every country there is a osn group	21:50
rysiek\|pl	hi all	21:51
trappist	sorin7486: try glibc-doc and glibc-doc-reference	21:51
lgkan	I'm using ndisgtk to configure the driver for linksys usb 54g card, and its not totally remembering its there on reboot	21:52
rysiek\|pl	guys, I am having a strange issue with the wine config applet in the system settings - I can enter it once (it then creates the .wine dir, etc), but afterwards it says "module could not be loaded". when I delete the ~/.wine dir, it works AOK again - one time	21:53
sorin7486	trappist: somebody answered on another chanel ... it's manpages-dev	21:53
trappist	sorin7486: oh and manpages-posix-dev and manpages-dev	21:53
sorin7486	trappist: yes.. :) ... thanks anyway	21:54
trappist	sorin7486: yeah that :)	21:54
lgkan	works fine if I reinstall the driver, funny thing is it sees it connected to the laptop, recognizes as avail. but get dev error unless I redo it	21:56
lgkan	then it works good	21:56
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=== jan-eike is now known as squish123
venik	I cannot get rdiff to backup my home folder... It complains that the destination exists, but does not look like an rdiff directory. The destination folder is a removable USB drive. Is that a problem?	22:07
squish123	Hi! i cant install any programs, adept says " adept databank is already in use"	22:13
squish123	And i dont know how i can kill this process	22:13
tubular	can anyone help me with a networking issue? DNS is broken, but all other networking works. It only happens after I have both wireless and wired up at the same time, and I have to bring the wired interface down and up again to fix it	22:14
lgkan	hard code your dns address on the wired interface	22:30
dannybuntu	Hello world!	22:37
=== anton is now known as Anton_
=== Anton_ is now known as Anton___
dannybuntu	hi world!	22:40
=== genii_ is now known as genii
* genii sips a fruit juice		22:43
dannybuntu	yum	22:43
* genii hands dannybuntu a large mango juice		22:44
dannybuntu	thanks	22:44
genii	np	22:45
dannybuntu	want a marlboro? i always smoke when i drink juice	22:45
claetuss	i'm kind of a noob, but is there significance to the sharing of virtual juice/coffee/cigs?	22:47
dannybuntu	dont worry im a noob too	22:48
genii	claetuss: Socialisation of a sort :)	22:48
Cannoli	helllo	22:48
Cannoli	i was here earlier inquiring about themes	22:49
blendtux	stdin: how much is a default kernel loaded in the ram	22:49
dannybuntu	ooh i love themes	22:49
Cannoli	is there any other place (other tahn kubuntu art) where i can get good themes. like the ones available on xpthemes.com	22:49
claetuss	genii: like winking, futile but fun ;-)	22:49
genii	claetuss: Pretty much, yes	22:50
Rukus	anyone know how to make my win key work? it used to work. now it doesnt. What do i do?	22:50
dannybuntu	kde-look.org	22:50
dannybuntu	thats the best i could think off	22:50
Cannoli	and would these work on kubuntu?	22:51
Cannoli	sorry i still dont know this kind of stuff, like do ubuntu files or lile slacks files run on kubuntu just the same?	22:52
jonrysh	How can I install the libraries needed to run a 32-bit application (acroread) on an x86_64 system with /usr/lib32 currently unpopulated?	22:52
genii	jonrysh: Perhaps view http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790	22:56
jonrysh	Thanks genii, will do.	22:57
dannybuntu_	hey - there could only be one dannybuntu - look here http://dannybuntu.blogspot.com	22:58
jonrysh	Alright genii, where is getlibs -- how can it be downloaded?	22:59
genii	jonrysh: The link is given there	22:59
holeinone	I screwed up my kdm file in init.d Can someone help me with that?	23:01
genii	jonrysh: eg: http://www.boundlesssupremacy.com/Cappy/getlibs/getlibs-all.deb	23:01
dannybuntu_	guys could you tell me how i could make my computer shutdown - i mean it shuts down but does not turn off the power - it just shows KUBUNTU	23:01
Cannoli	should i install a driver for my video card?	23:02
Cannoli	cause right now im running fine without one	23:02
=== Sal is now known as Salanth
ardchoille	Cannoli: You may not need it unless you plan to do 3d games/artwork/stuff	23:02
Cannoli	oh cra	23:03
Cannoli	crap	23:03
Salanth	Hello.	23:03
Cannoli	i plan to XD	23:03
Salanth	Actually, I'm probably in the wrong channel for this.	23:03
ardchoille	Cannoli: The drivers allow graphics instesive stuff to be taken off the CPU and handled by the video card	23:03
ardchoille	Salanth: You won't know until you ask :)	23:03
holeinone	I screwed up my kdm file in init.d Can someone help me?	23:03
Cannoli	will it cause any harm if i install them?	23:03
ardchoille	Cannoli: I have installed them on 200+ machines and never had a problem. Which card do you have?	23:04
Salanth	Alright. KDE4. Usually I'm good at figuring things out...Any way to customize the menu bar? (The default one on the bottom.) Oh, and maybe tone down a bit of the effects.	23:04
Cannoli	ati radeon x1650 pro	23:05
jugheadtn	how do I enable the alt-tab preview window thing in KDE? I'm running gutsy and it's not there for whatever reason	23:05
ardchoille	Salanth: I hear that plasmoids work isn't quite ready yet	23:05
ardchoille	!ati \| Cannoli	23:05
ubotu	Cannoli: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	23:05
Salanth	ardchoille: Ah. That would explain it.	23:05
Cannoli	oh yea i know how to install it, the driver manager thing came up and asked me	23:05
rysiek\|pl	Salanth: http://etotheipiplusone.com/kde4daily/docs/kde4daily.html	23:05
Cannoli	i just dont want it to mess up my linux	23:05
rysiek\|pl	Salanth: that might be an interesting option if you just want to test stuff	23:05
rysiek\|pl	Cannoli: you won't :)	23:06
Cannoli	awesome thank you	23:06
* Cannoli needs a restart		23:06
Cannoli	brb	23:06
rysiek\|pl	Cannoli: it's not you messing the system up, but the system installing the drivers for your card	23:06
ardchoille	Cannoli: I hear that ati drivers have quite improved lately	23:06
rysiek\|pl	meh, too slow	23:06
angasule	what's a good app to use hot corners? mostly I'd like a "show desktop" in the upper left and I'm sure I can think of something for the lower right (both of which have no useful widget there anyway)	23:06
rysiek\|pl	angasule: are you using compiz?	23:06
angasule	rysiek\|pl: no, I find compiz doesn't get along too well with KDE, I'll wait till KDE4	23:07
rysiek\|pl	angasule: ah, ok. in that case I have no idea what you could get in those corners. konsole? bring up som app from tray (like kmail/kopete)?	23:08
ardchoille	angasule: If you're just wanting menu drop shadows, transparency and some other light stuff, kde can do that on its own.	23:08
dannybuntu_	wot	23:08
* rysiek\|pl 's gonna get some tea		23:09
dannybuntu_	aiiiie somebody stole my name	23:09
rysiek\|pl	anybody? ;)	23:09
Salanth	Oh.	23:09
claetuss	cannoli: in my limited experience, some stuff designed for gnome runs poorly under kde and vice versa, but most times is works	23:09
Salanth	Angasule. There's a setting for that I believe.	23:09
angasule	rysiek\|pl: how do I get hot corners? I don't care about compiz, hot corners and 3D effects are unrelated	23:09
Salanth	Let me check real fast...	23:09
LjL	angasule, i think you don't.	23:10
=== dannybuntu_ is now known as dannybuntu
Salanth	angasule: Darn, that setting doesn't work.	23:10
LjL	angasule: for having a "Show Desktop" thing on a corner, however, you might perhaps live with the following: create a new panel, make it 0% length, place it bottom-left (or whatever), set it as hidden, and add a "Show Desktop" applet to it. then you'll have to squash the mouse to the bottom right corner and hit the left mouse button	23:11
benedikt	Hallo	23:11
angasule	LjL: hmm, that's not entirely awful, thanks :)	23:12
ardchoille	LjL: That's actually a nice idea	23:13
* ardchoille writes that down		23:13
LjL	ardchoille: i've done it for ages... although i didn't want to =) i'm doing it because, while KDE insists on needing to have a "main" panel which can't be removed, i don't want such a main panel, since my "main" panel is the menubar	23:14
=== tiborio__ is now known as tiborio
LjL	so i made the main panel tiny and hidden, and though i could put Show Desktop on it just to make it do something	23:14
ardchoille	LjL: Sounds cool.. I don't use my panel at all either, so it's good to know how to hide it like that	23:15
=== dannybuntu is now known as dannybuntu_
rysiek\|pl	angasule: ah, right, sorry. I thought you asked what could you do with your hot corners, missed the first part of the question	23:15
angasule	LjL: hmm, I right click on the new panel (I already added the 'show desktop' applet), select 'configure panel'... and I get the configure stuff for my main panel instead	23:16
jonrysh	Thanks genii	23:16
genii	LjL: Isn't that like that old 1 pixel transparent gif trick?	23:16
LjL	angasule, but there is a selection box at the top of the tab, with "Settings for: main panel"	23:16
genii	jonrysh: yw	23:17
LjL	genii, i don't know about that trick... i know this one requires a mouseclick. and it isn't really a trick, it's just a quite standard panel with only one icon on it	23:17
angasule	LjL: what tab?	23:17
angasule	LjL: in the Configure - KDE Panel stuff I don't have any such thing	23:17
=== dannybuntu_ is now known as dannybuntu
LjL	angasule: i mean just the settings window, "Arrangement" icon/tab/page/whatyoucallit	23:18
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genii	LjL: for reference http://golivetutor.com/tutorials/misc/transparent.html	23:19
angasule	LjL: I really don't know what you are talking about, System Settings?	23:19
LjL	angasule no, just right click on the panel and configure.	23:19
Cannoli	guys	23:19
epimeth	ahhhhh.... its so nice to have real internet again.	23:19
Cannoli	it messed up	23:20
LjL	angasule: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2522/panelpj0.png	23:20
Cannoli	i freezes now before the log in screen!	23:20
jonrysh	And now, how do I install the 32-bit version of an application (firefox)?	23:20
ardchoille	jonrysh: sudo apt-get install firefox	23:20
Cannoli	like i see a black screen	23:20
Cannoli	and thats it	23:20
angasule	LjL: what version of Kubuntu are you using? what version of KDE? I don't have that drop down	23:20
epimeth	does anyone know how to check if there are updates / which updates are available after running apt-get update without running upgrade?	23:21
LjL	angasule: gutsy 3.5.8	23:21
angasule	LjL: same here, it's very odd, why wouldn't I have that drop down??	23:21
syke	hi	23:21
epimeth	hi syke!	23:21
Cannoli	i tried recovery mode but i dont know the commands so thats no help tp me	23:21
LjL	angasule: i wouldn't know. try creating a third panel	23:21
syke	I'm having trouble installing the kdm-kde4 package. I get this error:	23:21
jonrysh	Sorry ardchoille, I didn't make clear that I am running an x86_32 system.	23:21
syke	dpkg: error processing kdm-kde4 (--configure):	23:21
syke	subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1	23:21
BluesKaj	epimeth, enable adept notifier in kcontrol	23:21
=== jontec_ is now known as jontec
LjL	syke: you have uninstalled any previous KDE 4 versions you might have had?	23:22
epimeth	BluesKaj: heh... this is for a server :-) I knew that :-p	23:22
carwash^	when i run kde4 Xorg claims 100% cpu-usage. Is this a known bug? (and what could be causing it)?	23:22
ardchoille	epimeth: sudo apt-get --show-upgrade ?	23:23
syke	ljl: I thought so -- I had to in order to update to RC1	23:23
epimeth	BluesKaj: I want to automate the update process with a cronjob	23:23
angasule	LjL: hmm, right click, Add Panel->Panel ? I have three and still no drop down	23:23
Cannoli	ardchoille: it messed up, now when the log in screen is suppose to come up i just get stuck at a black screen the a tenth of that screen is missing on the left hand side	23:23
ardchoille	angasule: I noticed that I didn't have that drop-down menu either until I opened the panel config in kcontrol	23:24
holeinone	Could anyone please send me the content of the /init.d/kdm file? please?	23:24
epimeth	ardchoille: lemme check that :-)	23:24
ardchoille	Cannoli: Never seen that before, but, then again, I've never used ati drivers.	23:24
Cannoli	oh no!	23:24
Cannoli	im screwed :(	23:24
dannybuntu	logout	23:24
angasule	ardchoille: thanks, will try that	23:24
epimeth	ardchoille: nope	23:25
ardchoille	epimeth: Then the man page is wrong	23:25
genii	holeinone: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm should replace/reinstall it	23:25
holeinone	thanks genii!!	23:25
genii	holeinone: np	23:26
epimeth	ardchoille: lol... I'll check te manpage.	23:26
epimeth	ardchoille: do you know if there's a file I can checksum maybe?	23:26
syke	ljl: I'll try uninstalling and reinstalling again	23:26
LjL	angasule: if what ardchoille says makes it appear, then i call bug	23:26
angasule	LjL: oh, the hot corner thing is available in the hiding tab of the panel in kcontrol	23:26
syke	changing my default login manager to kdm-kde4 will boot into kde4 automatically, right?	23:26
jonrysh	(Repeating) I'm running an x86_64 system and want to install the 32-bit version of firefox. What's the easy way to do this?	23:26
epimeth	also... I checked out the help on WPA ad it said it should be installed by default, then mentioned a wpa supplicant I have to install? how do I install wpa support for knetwork manager? just apt-get wpa_supplicant ?	23:27
LjL	angasule: you mean "raise when the pointer touches..."?	23:27
claetuss	jonrysh: I just looked for firefox in adept and it hooked me up	23:28
LjL	syke: i'm afraid it won't allow you install or uninstall anything now... (as for the setting kdm-kde4 as default, haven't tried, i followed the instructions for kdm 3)	23:28
angasule	LjL: hmm, even after going to kcontrol, if I right click on it and go to settings, it shows the settings for the main panel, so it's a bug	23:28
toggi	hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000	23:29
genii	claetuss: You misunderstand, he wants 32bit firefox installed to his 64 bit ubuntu/kubuntu	23:29
toggi	how to fix that ?	23:29
LjL	angasule: it most likely is, but i still wonder why i see it. perhaps try logging out and in	23:29
=== toggi is now known as ToGGi
claetuss	genii, jonrysh: my bad, I just realized that	23:29
genii	jonrysh: The method to install the 32 bit version is described in the post I referred you to earlier	23:30
ToGGi	any one know how i can fix this problem?? " hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"	23:30
genii	In fact any 32 bit version of an app into the 64 bit ubuntu, using the getlib	23:30
angasule	LjL: kinda busy at the moment for that, at least now it's working	23:30
LjL	angasule: (as an aside, anyway, i don't even have "raise when the pointer touches corner" enabled - all i have is "hide automatically - immediately", with no animation)	23:31
holeinone	genii <- executed "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm" but init.d/kdm was not replaced	23:31
zert	hdy	23:31
zert	chong	23:31
angasule	hmm, and 'show desktop' isn't a toggle, which is a bit annoying	23:31
genii	holeinone: Odd. Normally it will replace it. Try then: sudo apt-get remove --purge kdm; sudo apt-get install kdm	23:33
syke	ljl: I uninstalled again, reinstalled, same error :/	23:34
holeinone	genii <- That did it! thanks, I'll restart now and see if KDE boot up :)	23:35
LjL	syke: try « sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.postinst », pastebin the output	23:35
* holeinone wanders of happily		23:36
epimeth	I checked out the help on WPA ad it said it should be installed by default, then mentioned a wpa supplicant I have to install? how do I install wpa support for knetwork manager? just apt-get wpa_supplicant ?	23:36
Cannoli	!gmd restart	23:38
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about gmd restart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	23:38
Cannoli	!gdm	23:38
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	23:38
Cannoli	!gmd	23:38
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about gmd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	23:38
LjL	!botabuse	23:38
LjL	!x	23:38
ubotu	Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.	23:38
ubotu	The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto	23:38
genii	LjL: LOL thx	23:39
Cannoli	thank you LjL	23:39
syke	ljl: http://pastebin.com/d733a3912	23:39
LjL	syke: uhm, weird behavior... does it show anything if you type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm »?	23:42
syke	ljl: it prompts me to choose with kdm I want to use; I select kdm-kde4, press enter, and it exits	23:43
LjL	syke, i don't really know why that error is happening. try this though	23:44
LjL	!brokenkde4	23:44
ubotu	If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l \| egrep '(KDE 4\|KDE PIM 4\|-kde4)' \|cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »	23:44
syke	yea, I did that already	23:44
alfredo	hi	23:44
syke	that did fix my other errors	23:44
syke	I'll dick around with it a bit more	23:45
syke	thanks for talking me through things! :)	23:45
alfredo	%&/GCCGTT$	23:45
LjL	syke, reset kdm (not kdm4) as the default display manager now, or you might not be able to login at all, if kdm-kde4 is broken enough	23:45
syke	ljl: will do -- thanks for the tip!	23:47
Rukus	XGL uses 165mb ram on my system, is this a usual and necessary amount of ram for that process?	23:49
Daisuke_Ido	Rukus: ati card?	23:51
keith	I've just downloaded the Ubuntu 7.10 iso with konqueror and it's got saved as a text file. Is there any way to fix it so that I can make an install cd?	23:54
flaccid	if you have actually saved it as ascii it will be corrupted	23:55
flaccid	you are more likely just opening the binary file in a text editor...	23:55
keith	flaccid: what was I supposed to do? it didn't seem to give me any other options	23:56
flaccid	if you have saved the .iso, just burn it with k3b or something now	23:56
flaccid	if thats your goal..	23:56
flaccid	you can always check the md5sum for integrity	23:56
keith	flaccic: that's it. will k3b still read it as an iso?	23:57
flaccid	if the integrity of the file is fine then yes it will	23:57
rysiek\|pl	keith: open terminal and type: filethefileyoudownloaded.iso	23:58
rysiek\|pl	keith: oops	23:58
rysiek\|pl	keith: that's: file thefile.iso	23:59

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