[00:11] <ubotu> New bug: #165087 in launchpad-bazaar "Cannot branch from bzr+http URLs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165087
[00:40] <Andre_Gondim> the code area in launchpad, is like a sourceforge?
[00:47] <kiko> Andre_Gondim, yes, though it is for bzr-hosted code, not svn/cvs.
[00:47] <kiko> though you can import svn and cvs branches continuously into bzr
[00:51] <Andre_Gondim> kiko, thanks :D
[00:51] <kiko> sure thing
[00:51] <kiko> wow, how hungreeee
[00:52] <Fujitsu> kiko: Eeeat!
[00:53] <Fujitsu> kiko: There seems to be a section header (for launchpad-bazaar) missing on the 1.1.11 release announcement on news.l.n.
[00:53] <kiko> let me see that.
[00:53] <kiko> man, you guys have no idea how much spam n.l.n gets
[00:53] <kiko> it's like RIDICULOUS
[00:54] <Fujitsu> Haha.
[00:54] <LaserJock> kiko: you guys have akismet or something on it?
[00:55]  * Fujitsu doesn't see any captchas.
[00:55] <kiko> what's that?
[00:56] <kiko> Fujitsu, thanks for that -- you have good eyes.
[00:56] <kiko> there was a missing > 
[00:56] <kiko> good ole wp 
[00:56] <Fujitsu> kiko: Aha.
[00:56]  * Fujitsu stabs WP dead for having SO MANY security flaws.
[00:56] <Fujitsu> 42 CVEs in 18 months is not cool.
[00:57] <kiko> WP is.. disappointingly good
[00:59] <Fujitsu> Apart from being written in PHP and having more security flaws than any other piece of packaged software, by a long way, it is fairly good.
[01:00] <kiko> I wish I could hate it enough to not use it, but I can't, which is annoying.
[01:00] <kiko> but the text editor... 
[01:00] <kiko> aiee
[01:00] <Fujitsu> ?
[01:00] <kiko> well, "text"
[01:00] <kiko> the HTML editing is really weird
[01:01] <kiko> it insists on redoing your HTML when you save rwice
[01:01] <Fujitsu> Most browser-based WYSIWYG editors are pretty wieird.
[01:01] <kiko> and using blockquotes and other elements just go haywire 
[01:01] <Fujitsu> Oh, so it interprets it, mangles it, and writes its own version out?
[01:01] <kiko> I spent hours trying to get of-bugs-and-statuses formatted properly and gave up.
[01:01] <kiko> so the first time you save it just saves as is.
[01:01] <kiko> but if you go and edit it and then save again, it interprets and rewrites it.
[01:02] <kiko> very weird.
[01:02] <Fujitsu> Night.
[01:02] <kiko-zzz> anyway, let me get something to eat and then sleep
[01:02] <kiko-zzz> you guys take care, and thanks.
[01:02] <Fujitsu> No problem, and sleep/eat well.
[02:20] <bd_> launchpad.com seems still down
[02:20] <LaserJock> launchpad.net
[02:22] <jamesh> we have no control over launchpad.com
[02:46] <mpt> or lunchpad.net
[02:47] <thumper> :)
[02:47]  * thumper wants lunchpad.net
[02:49] <mpt> There was one other I came across the other day
[02:49] <jamesh> lunchpadding.net?
[02:49] <mpt> No, that's too far away
[02:49] <mpt> It was a typo squatter
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #165110 in malone "When a bug is marked "Duplicate", all bug tasks should be preserved" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165110
[07:32] <carlos> morning
[07:32] <Fujitsu> Hi carlos.
[07:33]  * Hobbsee throws a herring in carlos' general direction in greeting
[07:33] <carlos> :-)
[07:33]  * Fujitsu throws some timeouts too.
[08:13] <carlos> Fujitsu: please, try it again, stub did some changes that should kill some remaining timeouts
[08:24] <Burgundavia> anybody from the rosetta team around
[08:24] <Burgundavia> ?
[08:24] <Burgundavia> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/165128
[08:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 165128 in rosetta "Put all translations in bzr (or possibly other vcs)" [Undecided,New] 
[08:24] <Fujitsu> carlos: ^^
[08:25] <carlos> Fujitsu: thanks
[08:25] <carlos> Burgundavia: hi
[08:25] <Burgundavia> hey
[08:26] <carlos> Burgundavia: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/rosetta/+spec/rosetta-translates-branch
[08:26] <carlos> that's something we were planning a while ago
[08:27] <carlos> the spec says to fetch from bzr branches and to commit in a translations branch so people could merge from it
[08:27] <Burgundavia> figured it had been discussed
[08:28] <Burgundavia> is there work on that?
[08:28] <poolie_> edge seems pretty slow atm....
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #165128 in rosetta "Put all translations in bzr (or possibly other vcs)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165128
[08:30] <carlos> Burgundavia: not yet
[08:32] <Burgundavia> ok. From an "upstreams hate Rosetta" perspective, getting this would probably be a good thing
[08:50] <somerville33> Hey
[08:50] <somerville33> Can an lp admin take care of this account?: https://edge.launchpad.net/~gogetfucked/
[08:51] <mwhudson> he can deal with it himself now
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #165131 in launchpad "Getting details on a superseded package version returns a 404 error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165131
[09:08] <mpt> mwhudson, it's existed for a while, quite possibly he/she has forgotten about it
[09:08] <mpt> but that doesn't mean it should still exist
[09:08] <mpt> Another use case for the "Report as inappropriate" button
[09:16] <somerville33> mwhudson: It doesn't look very professional when I'm looking at a specification for Ubuntu and I see "None of your fucking business" as one of the subscribers.
[09:16] <mwhudson> somerville32: no, indeed
[09:17] <mwhudson> i don't think any admins are here right now though
[09:23] <mwhudson> SteveA_: if you're here could you deactivate the 'gogetfucked' account on launchpad?
[09:26] <gmb_> mwhudson: It's nice to see inventive account names, isn't it :)
[09:26] <mwhudson> gmb: not really
[09:27]  * gmb reads the profile
[09:27] <gmb> Ah.
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #165142 in launchpad "Duplicate message in "Translation setup needed"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165142
[10:10] <SteveA_> mwhudson: sure
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #165146 in launchpad "lp admins cannot deactivate accounts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165146
[10:35] <StevenHarperUK> Where in launchpad would I find the Binary NEW queue from my package? : https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/easycrypt/
[10:36] <StevenHarperUK> *s/from/for
[10:38] <StevenHarperUK> Googled it : fount it : https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=easycrypt
[10:38] <Hobbsee> StevenHarperUK: ...in the new queue.  as discussed a few weeks ago
[10:39] <Hobbsee> oh, you're asking where, not why
[10:39] <StevenHarperUK> Yeh, I was trying to find  the URL
[10:40] <StevenHarperUK> Im past the source new queue
[10:40] <StevenHarperUK> now I am in the binary one
[10:40] <StevenHarperUK> Which I wasn't aware of
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #165148 in launchpad ""decativate my account" link is hard to find" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165148
[10:41] <StevenHarperUK> Hobbsee: I see that the translation files have been auto found, will they added as launchpad translateable files automatically? 
[10:41] <Hobbsee> carlos: should know the answer to that
[10:45] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: if the package is in main, yes
[10:45] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: if it's not in main, translations shouldn't be stripped out
[10:49] <StevenHarperUK> Carlos: 
[10:49] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: will they get added , or should I leave them uploaded on my Launchpad project page?
[10:49] <Hobbsee> carlos: i'ts universe
[10:52] <carlos> then translations should remain in binary packages
[10:52] <carlos> and nothing needs to be done in Launchpad
[10:57] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: I want to take advantage of the launchpad tool for getting translators to do translations using Launchpad, how do I go about this : I have put the po files into a translation QUeue on my Project page : https://edge.launchpad.net/easycrypt
[10:58] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: is that package Ubuntu specific?
[10:58] <Fujitsu> carlos: Note that he is upstream too.
[10:58] <carlos> Fujitsu: I guessed that, yes :-P
[11:00] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: seems to be something not specific for Ubuntu
[11:00] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: I recommend you to upload translations directly in your project directly
[11:01] <carlos> instead of using Ubuntu for your upstream translations
[11:01] <carlos> that way you will get translations even from non Ubuntu translators
[11:02] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: thanks for the info - do we know how long these translation imports take?
[11:02] <StevenHarperUK> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/easycrypt/+imports : that one was on the 28th of the Nov
[11:02] <StevenHarperUK> *28th Oct
[11:02] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: if you ping me once you do the upload, quite fast
[11:03] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: ping
[11:04] <carlos> :-)
[11:05] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: for next upload, please, name the template .pot instead of .po
[11:05] <carlos> .po is usually for translations while .pot is for template
[11:06] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: the file is approved now, expect an email in next 5-15 minutes
[11:13] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: ta
[11:14] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: I have an italian translation alreasy, how do I get that one in?
[11:15] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: also, you need to set https://edge.launchpad.net/easycrypt/ as using Launchpad Translations
[11:15] <carlos> or it will not let anyone to see your translations
[11:16] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: you can upload it directly at https://translations.launchpad.net/easycrypt/trunk/+pots/easycrypt/+upload
[11:16] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: I thought I had set that
[11:16] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: https://launchpad.net/easycrypt/ says you didn't
[11:17] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: that last page is an error page, will it work after upload?
[11:17] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: that will go away once you set your product as using translations
[11:18] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: thanks for all the help
[11:19] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: if I upload an italian translation, how does it know its for that locale, do I have to tar n zip up the structure?
[11:29] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: I have put the tarr'ed versions up can you review them please https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/easycrypt/trunk/+imports
[11:39] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: I just approved it
[11:39] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: ta 
[11:40] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: btw, the template shouldn't have any translation, I accepted the 'en' translations as the template but you should generate a direct .pot file from the source code, which tool are you using to generate those files?
[11:41] <StevenHarperUK> I had hand cranked the po files
[11:42] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: time to change that then
[11:42] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: ;-)
[11:45] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: I have emails saying they have all failed, I have checked  them with msgfmt : I get no errors
[11:56] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: let me check...
[11:56] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: our parser doesn't understand the domain 'foo' line
[11:56] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: ill fix that now
[11:56] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: is it needed for your application or just added by you ?
[11:57] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: that's a limitation in our parser but if you don't need it , better to remove it to get it imported...
[12:01] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: what should I upload first  a POT , or a tar of Po's 
[12:01] <carlos> you can upload a tarball with the .pot file and all .po files
[12:14] <khnz> Hi. Is it possible to build ready-to-use module packages for the current ubuntu kernel (from already created *-source deb) in ppa?
[12:14] <kiko> sure, I think
[12:19] <khnz> do you have any hint, link or something how to do it? currently launchpad only builds the source package.
[12:24] <Hobbsee> erm, what?
[12:24] <Hobbsee> khnz: you can build sources, such as linux-restricted-modules on ppa, if you wish
[12:24] <carlos> khnz: I guess you need to modify the package because the original package in Ubuntu is designed to work in that way
[12:25] <Hobbsee> khnz: as for how you intend to build the modules without a source....i can't imagine what you're attempting
[12:25] <carlos> Hobbsee: there are some special packages with '-source' in its name that are not built against latest kernel in Ubuntu for each flavour
[12:26] <carlos> and I guess he wants to get the binary from that package
[12:26] <Hobbsee> carlos: this is true.  ah, in which case you have to build the source, to get the binary.
[12:27] <Hobbsee> hang on, from a -source deb?  no.  ppa does source --> binary.  not binary --> module / other strange form
[12:28] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: module-assistant can be used to build binaries from the -source, which is build from the source package. I'm sure you can convince the source package to build the modules directly.
[12:28] <khnz> right. my package build the -source package, and this works fine with module-assistant.
[12:28] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: "right"
[12:30] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: Erm?
[12:30] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: i see your point, but i dont see how it lines up with his :)
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #165160 in rosetta "Languages without plural form information break +translate form submission" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165160
[12:31] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: I doubt that khnz wishes to attempt to build it from the -source binary package, but wishes to build real binaries in addition to the -source.
[12:32] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: ah right.
[12:34] <khnz> Fujitsu: exactly, thanks (my english is too bad)
[12:36] <carlos> khnz: for that, you need to create a new package, you cannot use Ubuntu's package directly
[12:36] <carlos> because they are not designed in that way
[12:36] <Fujitsu> carlos: It depends on the package. Some probably have an easy option that you can set to build binaries too.
[12:36] <carlos> Fujitsu: maybe, but still needs to change the source package
[12:36] <Fujitsu> Yep.
[12:39] <khnz> carlos: okay, thanks, will trying.
[13:05] <ubotu> New bug: #165167 in rosetta "IndexError in +translate page" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165167
[13:16] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: I have redone all the translations and used tools to make the POT and po files, can you please check them and upload : ta
[13:16] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/easycrypt/trunk/+imports
[13:16] <frenchy> I'm new to the LP mail list but if you want I can respond to anbraveman1987@gmail.com.  I think he seems lost.
[13:17] <frenchy> Do you mind if I do?
[13:36] <carlos> frenchy: you are free to answer any email
[13:37] <carlos> you don't need to ask for permission
[13:37] <carlos> any contribution is welcome, even email answering :-)
[13:37] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: ok, let me check...
[13:38] <lamont> did 1.1.11 give buildd admins a +build somewhere that covers all PPAs?
[13:39] <frenchy> Ta
[13:39] <kiko> lamont, no.
[13:40] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: approved, although the 'en' one is not needed, usually that's the source code. If you need per country English, use en_US, en_UK, etc...
[13:41] <lamont> kiko: ok.  sigh.  any guesses when?
[13:41] <kiko> lamont, when we get around to doing them -- probably jan/feb.
[13:41] <lamont> what I'd like is a way to go see everything that the queue-builder just built, or rather, what the build-launching part of launchpad is going to use to pick 'next up at bat' :)
[13:42] <lamont> understood
[13:42]  * lamont heads for the office
[13:53] <Fujitsu> lamont: That's bug #155758, and was just deferred by two releases (to 1.2.1)
[13:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 155758 in soyuz "Global PPA +builds would be useful" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155758 - Assigned to Julian Edwards (julian-edwards)
[13:54]  * Hobbsee subscribes
[13:54] <Fujitsu> Has 1.1.12 ceased to exist, or something?
[13:55] <Fujitsu> I've just had a lot of bugs deferred from 1.1.1[12] to 1.2.[12]
[14:15] <mwhudson> Fujitsu: it's a short cycle what with christmas an everything
[14:15] <mwhudson> Fujitsu: also, we're trying to be much more honest about what is actually going to happen in a given release
[14:16] <ubotu> New bug: #165179 in rosetta "Template import notification email reports successful even with a failure" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165179
[14:36]  * carlos -> lunch
[14:41]  * lamont finds himself curious enough to ask...
[14:41] <lamont> what exactly is the default sort key on launchpad.net/+builds?
[14:42] <MiserySalin> hi there....
[14:43] <MiserySalin> Could someone delete some packages from my PPA? I added it to the answer-tracker but there was no response. :-( ( https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/18506 )
[14:57] <jdong> Hi can I request https://edge.launchpad.net/~motumedia/+archive/+build/454839 to be interrupted and the relevant source package be removed?
[14:57] <jdong> I am the uploader
[14:58] <jdong> and it looks like the build is in infinite loop
[15:02] <StevenHarperUK> Is there are standard way of highlighting your new Package that needs Translating to the Launchpad Translating Community?
[15:24] <StevenHarperUK> If I want to add another language to my translation, is there a button to add a new language - without having to upload a blank template, I have noticed that if you manually change the URL from en-gb to ro you get the Romanian  page, but how do I get to a link that links there?
[15:26] <kiko> StevenHarperUK, you just need to follow the "All languages" link, or change your preferred languages
[15:26] <StevenHarperUK> All languages, only shows the ones I have uploaded blank po's to
[15:26] <StevenHarperUK> How would someone make a NEW language
[15:27] <StevenHarperUK> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/easycrypt/trunk/+pots/easycrypt
[15:28] <kiko> StevenHarperUK, what languages do you get in that list?
[15:29] <StevenHarperUK> kiko: Any that a translator is willing to do
[15:29] <StevenHarperUK> kiko: There should be a "Translate to New Language" button
[15:30] <kiko> that's not what I meant. what languages do you see in that list?
[15:32] <StevenHarperUK> kiko: I See en_UK and IT
[15:33] <StevenHarperUK> kiko: i mean en_GB and it
[15:33] <kiko> I see pt_BR, en_GB and it.
[15:34] <kiko> so while there may be a bug that you can't see the links unless you've selected a preferred language, it works out mostly fine.
[15:41] <kiko> StevenHarperUK, if you think the bug is worth filing, do it :)
[15:44] <AuntyProton> Howdy...
[15:45] <AuntyProton> I have a request for an update on a software package, the desktop wiki program Zim.  It needs to be updated to their latest version.
[15:48] <kiko> AuntyProton, you're in the wrong channel. maybe #ubuntu-motu, but they are going to ask you to file a bug I think
[15:49] <AuntyProton> Oh.  Well, this was the channel listed on the bug board registration e-mail.  I'll go over there.
[15:49] <kiko> AuntyProton, the bug board registration email?!
[16:00] <ubotu> New bug: #165194 in launchpad "Rename LaunchpadScript.add_my_options method" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165194
[16:11] <ubotu> New bug: #165200 in launchpad "Proper LaunchpadScript transaction handler" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165200
[16:35] <ubotu> New bug: #165205 in launchpad "OOPS changing team ownership to a invited member" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165205
[16:41] <PriceChild> My ppa still hasnt' been cleared. https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/17826 remains unsolved. Uploads and created debs are now nolonger showing at +archive, ... but build records are there and source/binaries are still in the repo.
[16:46] <StevenHarperUK> kiko: I raised a bug/wish https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/165209
[16:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 165209 in launchpad "Choose to Create new Language Translation for a Package" [Undecided,New] 
[16:47] <kiko> cprov, ping.
[16:47] <cprov> kiko: pong
[16:48] <kiko> cprov, can you check out PriceChild's issue above? I saw his question unanswered too.
[16:48] <cprov> PriceChild: let me check
[16:51] <cprov> PriceChild: you can start uploading new sources, it will trigger the processes to clean up old files from your repo.
[16:52] <kiko> cprov, can you explain? doesn't death row run independently?
[16:52] <cprov> PriceChild: the build records won't be removed.
[16:52] <cprov> kiko: no, the sources were not dominated yet.
[16:53] <kiko> cprov, I don't quite understand. isn't this a manual removal?
[16:54] <cprov> kiko: yes, it is a manual removal, but it's up to the publisher to calculate if all references to the file in pool are gone and then whether it should be removed or not.
[16:55] <ubotu> New bug: #165209 in launchpad "Choose to Create new Language Translation for a Package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165209
[16:55] <ubotu> New bug: #165211 in launchpad-answers "ValueError sending mailnotification for a question" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165211
[17:03] <PriceChild> Thankyou kiko, cprov, just trying again now.
[17:04] <cprov> PriceChild: np, thank you for the feedback.
[17:05] <PriceChild> Can't wait for the ability to remove them myself as the upstream for gizmod has a habit of making changes to releases, after release :P
[17:06] <PriceChild> cprov, just got a message from librarian, complaining that the md5sums don't match :/
[17:07] <PriceChild> The old orig.tar.gz is still there and its not shifting :/
[17:07] <kiko> yeah, that's a problem. 
[17:07] <kiko> cprov, can we trigger this manually?
[17:08] <cprov> kiko: not easily, the whole procedure is triggered only by a pending-publication record, which we can't emulate in a empty PPA
[17:09] <kiko> PriceChild, if you publish /anything/ to your PPA it should work, I think.
[17:09] <jdong> can you guys abort https://edge.launchpad.net/~motumedia/+archive/+build/454839  and all the queued builds for that package?
[17:09] <jdong> the packagin has an infinite loop build bug due to a bashism
[17:09] <jdong> it've been building for 24 hours :)
[17:09] <kiko> not sure -- can we cprov?
[17:09] <PriceChild> kiko, what so if i upload some random package with unchanged source frmo ubuntu for example... things will clear then i'll be able to build what I really want to again?
[17:10] <kiko> PriceChild, that's what I think cprov was saying.
[17:10] <StevenHarperUK> kiko: can you look at this page : https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/easycrypt/trunk/+pots/easycrypt : the italian says 60 strings not translated, however if you open it and filter them only 4 are not done - is this a bug?
[17:10] <PriceChild> Oh sorry I didn't understand last time :)
[17:10] <cprov> jdong: let me check
[17:11] <jdong> cprov: thanks
[17:11] <kiko> StevenHarperUK, sorry, I'm busy right now. ask a question as per the /topic, or talk to carlos, danilo_ or jtv 
[17:11] <StevenHarperUK> kiko: ok no problem
[17:11] <StevenHarperUK> Can someone help me confirm if this is a bug : if you look at this page : https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/easycrypt/trunk/+pots/easycrypt : the italian says 60 strings not translated, however if you open it and filter them only 4 are not done - is this a bug?
[17:12] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: that's indeed a bug
[17:12] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: do you know if its a known bug : or shal I go search
[17:12] <carlos> please, file a bug
[17:12] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: roger roger
[17:12] <carlos> is the first time I see it...
[17:16] <jtv> carlos: looks like the changed-in-launchpad count is not subtracted from the untranslated count, doesn't it?
[17:16] <carlos> I guess...
[17:16] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: I think its because I uploaded the italian po empty
[17:16] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: with all blank strings
[17:17] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: that shouldn't be a problem
[17:17] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: I have added that inof to the bug
[17:17] <StevenHarperUK> carlso "shouldnt"
[17:17] <StevenHarperUK> carlos: bug #165218
[17:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 165218 in launchpad "Number of Translated Strings not correct" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165218
[17:18] <carlos> StevenHarperUK: thank you
[17:22] <cprov> jdong: done, the manualdepwait won't be collected anyway. upload a new source with the code-fix and it will be fine.
[17:22] <jdong> cprov: thanks!
[17:25] <ubotu> New bug: #165218 in launchpad "Number of Translated Strings not correct" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165218
[17:32] <PriceChild> cprov, how long do you think I should have to wait?
[17:32] <PriceChild> Do I now have to wait until after the cron at 3am?
[17:32] <cprov> PriceChild: 8 minutes to get the new archive indexes.
[17:32] <PriceChild> ah funky! :)
[17:34] <cprov> PriceChild: yes, the files will be removed from poll only at 3am, but it doesn't block you to upload, publish and build new sources.
[17:34] <jdong> PriceChild: why do you have to have the packages removed?
[17:34] <PriceChild> jdong, upstream changed an orig.tar.gz after release
[17:35] <jdong> PriceChild: wow that's stupid of them
[17:35] <jdong> PriceChild: try +repack1 type version numbers on the orig?
[17:36] <jdong> PriceChild: and have you tried smacking them for repacking stuff with the same version number?
[17:38] <PriceChild> jdong, well yeah i've asked whether they could just bump the version a small amount or something... but no luck yet. Every time its happened so far, its been because of a bug i've informed him about meaning ftbfs on 64bit which he's fixed.
[17:39] <PriceChild> cprov, in "it doesn't block you to upload, publish and build new sources"... by new sources do mean ones not already up there? or new copies?
[17:39] <jdong> PriceChild: upload newer versions he means
[17:39] <jdong> PriceChild: upploading two orig.tar.gz's with thee same version will error out
[17:39] <PriceChild> Ok 3am it is then :)
[17:39] <cprov> PriceChild: version that are not yet in the archive (pool)
[17:39] <jdong> PriceChild: until then, smack your lovely upstream ;-)
[17:40] <ubotu> New bug: #165223 in soyuz "Source packages should be dgettable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165223
[17:44] <cprov> dup !
[18:46] <ubotu> New bug: #165230 in launchpad "PPA generates an endlessly upgrading package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165230
[19:00] <ubotu> New bug: #165232 in rosetta ""Download translations" option in the wrong place" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165232
[20:31] <Kmos> kiko: bug 28459 (don't have a milestone set?)
[20:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 28459 in malone "Handle mid-air collisions in bug reports" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28459
[20:46] <ubotu> New bug: #165258 in malone "upgrade to gutsy error python 2.5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165258
[20:53] <cprov> cprov
[20:53] <cprov> err, sorry
[20:54] <Fujitsu> cprov: Good to see we'll get our publishing table back soon. Thanks.
[20:55] <cprov> Fujitsu: yup, in fact, an enhanced-version of the old table.
[20:55] <Fujitsu> What's new? Dates?
[20:58] <cprov> Fujitsu: the publishing life-cycle information (as we have today in the divs) in a expandable box below the table row.
[20:59] <Fujitsu> That's what I suspected. That sounds good!
[20:59] <Fujitsu> (well, I didn't expect the expander bit)
[21:00] <cprov> Fujitsu: https://dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkim-milter/+publishinghistory
[21:01] <cprov> Fujitsu: the target links are slightly more useful now.
[21:01] <Fujitsu> cprov: That looks quite good.
[21:01] <Fujitsu> The dates don't seem to follow the normal format, but that's not a bad thing.
[21:01] <cprov> Fujitsu: yup, thanks to ScottK & LaserJock comments.
[21:02] <cprov> Fujitsu: err, the bad-date-format is my fault :( I will get it fixed in a bit.
[21:06] <Fujitsu> cprov: Might be nice to normally capitalise the publishing status and pocket constants, but it's not bad as it is.
[21:06] <cprov> Fujitsu: you mean Release/Published instead of RELEASE/PUBLISHED ?
[21:07] <Fujitsu> cprov: Right, like they are in most other places. It looks a bit strange at the moment, as you don't use `hardy' but `Hardy', etc.
[21:08] <cprov> Fujitsu: we are going to update the other places to 'Hardy' at some point, it's the default series displayname.
[21:09] <LaserJock> cprov: do you think you'll also linkify the release names in the top table at https://dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkim-milter/ too?
[21:11] <Fujitsu> cprov: The inconsistencies in pocket display are a little strange. On that page we have both CamelCase and ALLCAPS, on the previous page it's nocaps.
[21:13] <cprov> Fujitsu: uhm, not sure if I'm going to change the sources page in this chunk.
[21:13] <cprov> Fujitsu: it's consistent by itself, every reference to pocket is lowercase, right ?
[21:14] <Fujitsu> cprov: I can see why they're different in the index page, as it looks better. But ALLCAPS looks strange in the new (old) table, I think.
[21:15] <cprov> Fujitsu: yes, I'm changing it to either Release or release
[21:16] <Fujitsu> cprov: Thanks, that's likely better.
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[21:18] <Fujitsu> cprov: Something went thoroughly wrong with https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compizconfig-bindings/0.0.0+git20070615-0ubuntu2
[21:18] <Fujitsu> Why did it try to rebuild it in Hardy?
[21:18] <Fujitsu> (and then fail to upload, of course)
[21:19] <cprov> Fujitsu: let me check
[21:22] <Fujitsu> cprov: Similar thing happened in https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/gtk-xfce-engine/2.3.0cvs20050306-2, but for much longer.
[21:23] <Fujitsu> Hardy has revived a number of very old builds (happycoders-emacs, among numerous others)...
[21:26] <cprov> Fujitsu: there was a failure in the algorithm to catchup lost-builds across all series, but it's already fixed.
[21:27] <cprov> Fujitsu: although you've pointed sources with problems that should be cleaned.
[21:27] <Fujitsu> cprov: There are quite a few, and it would be nice to have them off our FTBFS page.
[21:28] <Fujitsu> cprov: But the records won't be recreated next release?
[21:28] <cprov> Fujitsu: no, they won't be created again
[21:29] <Fujitsu> Ah, good.
[21:32] <cprov> Fujitsu: if you are working to isolate those cases let me know, I can help you and benefit of the results as well ;)
[21:33] <Fujitsu> cprov: Well, we can see that there are quite a number on http://members.ping.de/~mb/depwait/out.html
[21:35] <cprov> Fujitsu: nice page !
[21:36] <Fujitsu> cprov: It would be nice to have that in LP, rather than hitting it with a lot of requests, but...
[21:37] <cprov> Fujitsu: we can think about it ;) I have to go now ... see you later. 
[21:37] <Fujitsu> cprov: Bye!
[22:12] <jdong> ok, this is awfully embarassing, https://edge.launchpad.net/~motumedia/+archive/+build/456133
[22:12] <jdong> can someone abort that again for me?
[22:13] <kiko> hmm, I can't
[22:14] <jdong> oh is that a cprov only thing? :(
[22:14] <jdong> oh well I guess a lot of i386 PPA uploaders will just have to be pissed at me ;-)
[22:14] <kiko> might be just him I'm not sure
[22:15]  * LaserJock kicks jdong 
[22:15]  * jdong sheepishly grins
[22:15] <LaserJock> I was gonna upload some stuff today too :(
[22:15] <jdong> kiko: wouldn't it be a good feature to have a timeout on builds?
[22:15] <jdong> LaserJock: there's more i386 builders, no?
[22:16] <LaserJock> jdong: yeah, but the way you're going you'll have'em all DOSed by the end of the day ;-)
[22:16] <jdong> LaserJock: lol local pbuilder probation for me on mpeg4ip :)
[22:19] <kiko> yes.
[22:30] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[22:31]  * somerville32 wonders if mpt knows how annoying that is to hear when he is barely able to stay awake :P
[22:31] <jdong> somerville32: how about transition metal coordination complexes?
[22:32] <somerville32> ... Good Morning mpt.
[22:32]  * jdong goes back to reviewing for his test and weeping for himself
[22:33] <RainCT> Hi
[22:33] <RainCT> is there documentation for the Python launchpadbugs module somewhere?
[22:39] <RainCT> oh ok, found it
[23:11] <ubotu> New bug: #165283 in malone "The +txt listing for a bug is missing mentoring information" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165283