[01:33] <theunixgeek> How do I get the current Hardy build?
[01:34] <Toma-> usual methods
[01:34] <theunixgeek> Toma-: which are?
[01:34] <Toma-> see the topic
[01:35] <theunixgeek> Toma-: doesn't say anything about downloading the latest build's ISO image.
[01:35] <Toma-> build isos come in the final release stages.
[01:35] <Toma-> nothing but repos at the moment
[01:36] <theunixgeek> Toma-: thank you.
[03:09] <crimsun> Heads up: pulseaudio 0.9.7-3ubuntu1 users upgrading to 0.9.7-3ubuntu2 without rebooting or following this[0] procedure may experience issues.
[03:10] <crimsun> [0] Log out of GNOME, kill the pulseaudio daemon(s) and remove /tmp/.esd*, then log back in.
[03:11]  * Hobbsee updates
[03:11] <Hobbsee> crimsun: a little late, no? :)
[03:12] <crimsun> I've just returned from a transcontinental flight, so I've been scurrying to bzr push changes :)
[03:12] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[06:52] <savi0r666> need some help
[06:52] <savi0r666> anyone around
[07:48] <pwnguin> so /j #openwrt
[07:48] <pwnguin> doh
[12:41] <DanaG> Gaack, that netsplit destroyed my logs for today.
[16:07] <Laser87> Hi!
[19:42] <h3sp4wn> Have I just upgraded to hardy half way through an x transition ?
[19:51] <IdleOne> h3sp4wn: have you?
[19:52] <h3sp4wn> IdleOne: I don't know - it has not finished yet
[19:52] <IdleOne> X seems to be working ok here
[19:52] <IdleOne> finish and see what happens
[19:52] <h3sp4wn> but a few things that I may need seemed to be removed (unless they moved to another package)
[19:52] <h3sp4wn> xrandr for example
[19:53] <IdleOne> yeah it will probably be replaced with newer version or maybe a diff package
[19:54] <h3sp4wn> infact I use the XiG xserver anyway so I almost certainly don't need it
[19:54] <h3sp4wn> I do need the client libraries though
[20:03] <qaws> hi, how can I upgrade to hh? gksudo "update-manager -d" freezes (stops refreshing graphics and stops upgrading), is is the same like it was with upgrade FF->GG - is any other way to upgrade it?
[20:04] <h3sp4wn> qaws: Just use aptitude if you are certain you want to do it
[20:04] <h3sp4wn> (I did just that ~ 20 mins ago and it seems fine)
[20:04] <qaws> h3sp4wn: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[20:05] <qaws> or what command?
[20:05] <h3sp4wn>  read the /topic
[20:06] <qaws> yeah, but I am only asking for help, i want to know, whether is my Ubuntu corrupted
[20:06] <IdleOne> qaws: does Gutsy boot?
[20:06] <IdleOne> if so you should be ok
[20:06] <qaws> IdleOne: yes, I use it about 5 months and it is too old
[20:06] <IdleOne> lol
[20:06] <IdleOne> ok
[20:07] <qaws> I want something newer
[20:07] <IdleOne> qaws: you can change all instances of gutsy in /etc/apt/sources.list to hardy  that is how I did it but if it breaks dont come yelling at me
[20:08] <IdleOne> then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:08] <IdleOne> again instructions provided without any express implication of workability
[20:09] <IdleOne> do !backup first
[20:09] <qaws> IdleOne: now should it go  gksudo "update-manager -d" (non-manual way), but it does not work, because update-manager has always problem
[20:09] <qaws> IdleOne: Must I rewrite it manually?
[20:10] <IdleOne> qaws: do it whatever way you want
[20:10] <h3sp4wn> !backup
[20:10] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[20:10]  * IdleOne uses sudo nanio /etc/apt/sources.list and edits the file manualy
[20:11] <IdleOne> s/nanio/nano
[20:11] <qaws> Was any diferent way to upgrade FF->GG, then rewriting repos and using update-manager?
[20:12] <h3sp4wn> I used "sudo perl -pi -e 's/gutsy/hardy/i' /etc/apt/sources.list"
[20:12] <IdleOne> qaws: yes but right now the update manager is probably not working
[20:12] <h3sp4wn> I don't see any need for it to be working until people should be using it
[20:13] <IdleOne> qaws: hardy is more then pre-alpha it is pre-pre-alpha
[20:13] <qaws> IdleOne: it wasnt never working on my PC, but there is a option to do it ==> can be ubuntu absolutely screwed up?
[20:14] <IdleOne> qaws: ubuntu is fine. besides if you cant figure out how to upgrade to alpha software then you should not be running that software especially if it is an entire OS
[20:15] <IdleOne> h3sp4wn: agreed
[20:17] <qaws> IdleOne: thx, is it enough to rewrite it in sources.list?
[20:19] <IdleOne> qaws: yes
[20:20] <qaws> 554MB downloading :D
[20:20] <h3sp4wn> I cannot understand why ubuntu is always quite fast until late in the development process then suddenly it becomes really sluggish
[20:21] <qaws> h3sp4wn: probably it is a support of technologies we will never use
[20:22] <h3sp4wn> perhaps
[20:23] <qaws> what is new in hardy yet?
[20:24] <h3sp4wn> nothing much - found some broken stuff though
[20:25] <qaws> h3sp4wn: it's not a bug, it's a feature :D
[20:25] <h3sp4wn> qaws: I know and I don't doubt it should be done
[20:26] <h3sp4wn> I just need to work out how to use an external jre with matlab
[22:18] <DanaG> OOh, nvidia 169.04!
[22:19] <DanaG> Powermizer actually works!
[22:19] <DanaG> But you can't set limits to speeds.
[22:19] <DanaG> i.e. you can't make it not go to full-speed when doing 3D stuff on battery.