| ubotu | New bug: #165093 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "[nvidia-glx-new] Xorg crashes with /usr/bin/X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0x1e1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165093 | 02:15 |
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| tjaalton | soren: oh, glad that it worked | 05:42 |
| tjaalton | soren: btw, you seem to have the same keyboard/mouse as I do (bought it this Saturday) :) | 05:42 |
| ubotu | New bug: #165117 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (multiverse) "Broken Image/Road Overlays on Google Earth" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165117 | 07:26 |
| ubotu | New bug: #165189 in xorg (main) "cannot switch VTs from bulletproof-X" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165189 | 15:26 |
| ScislaC | tjaalton: was it your xorg-driver-fglrx debs that ended up hitting the repos for Hardy? | 17:01 |
| ScislaC | I still get the watermark in the bottom right corner, and for the most part everything in my Xorg.0.log looks fine... the only things I wonder about are the lines that say "No signature file" and "AMD Video Driver is unsigned". | 17:06 |
| ScislaC | btw... hi all :) | 17:06 |
| bryce | heya ScislaC | 17:39 |
| ScislaC | hi bryce! how goes in X land? | 17:40 |
| bryce | I've been thanksgiving-ing the past few days so am not sure myself | 17:41 |
| ScislaC | hehehe | 17:42 |
| * ScislaC nods | 17:42 | |
| ScislaC | yeah, I think I've hit my turkey quota for the rest of the year | 17:42 |
| bryce | we tossed the rest in the freezer yesterday | 17:45 |
| ubotu | New bug: #165002 in xorg (main) "Installing new PCI device breaks X" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165002 | 18:21 |
| tjaalton | hey dudes | 19:47 |
| tjaalton | ScislaC: maybe the driver is just buggy | 19:47 |
| * bryce waves | 19:57 | |
| tjaalton | hey bryce | 20:01 |
| bryce | http://news.launchpad.net/general/inkscape-moving-to-launchpad | 20:01 |
| tjaalton | yeah, xcb-1.1 built already | 20:03 |
| tjaalton | and radeonhd, nv synced | 20:04 |
| ScislaC | tjaalton: well, if you get bored in the coming weeks and want to give the newer one (Catalyst 7.11) a shot, I'd be happy to test it before you up it to the repo | 20:09 |
| tjaalton | maybe when hardy gets a new kernel | 20:10 |
| tjaalton | "catalyst 7.11" is just marketing, the driver itself is 8.43 :) | 20:12 |
| ScislaC | tjaalton: New kernel makes sense... as for version numbering, yeah, I know... but I want to roll with what it's officially called :) | 20:15 |
| ScislaC | tjaalton: fyi, the following got rid of the watermark for me. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3843078&postcount=3 | 20:59 |
| bryce | yeah, I think there might also be a build option that turns it off | 21:02 |
| bryce | I was thinking we should incorporate that into our build scripts | 21:02 |
| bryce | tjaalton: btw, did you commit the lrm changes into the kernel team's git? | 21:02 |
| ScislaC | bryce: so now I know the driver works :) Now to see if I can get XGL working again :D (since aiglx doesn't work with that driver and the newest xserver) | 21:06 |
| bryce | cool | 21:08 |
| tjaalton | bryce: it's not in the git | 21:22 |
| tjaalton | ScislaC: it should work | 21:23 |
| ScislaC | tjaalton: I'll be the judge of that ;) just unpacking a large tar, then I will restart X | 21:24 |
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| tormod | hi, is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Patches originally meant for backports to 1.4 (Hardy) or 1.3 (Gutsy) as well? | 21:26 |
| tormod | maybe we should have a Gutsy field and a Hardy field? Or some way to tag where the patch is nominated for? | 21:28 |
| bryce | good idea | 21:35 |
| bryce | heya tormod btw, good to see ya | 21:35 |
| tormod | hi bryce | 21:36 |
| bryce | yeah that page was set up originally just for Gutsy backports, but it certainly can be extended if you'd like | 21:36 |
| tormod | well I see some patches are well commented about SRUs | 21:36 |
| bryce | yeah I'm going to try pushing on those a bit today | 21:36 |
| bryce | I'd like to clear out that page, I don't think there's as much pressure for gutsy backports of the fixes as I anticipated | 21:37 |
| tjaalton | bryce: your merge-status page isn't updating, it shouldn't have separate apps anymore ;) | 21:43 |
| bryce | hrm | 21:44 |
| tjaalton | ScislaC: doesn't work? | 21:44 |
| ScislaC | nope... xgl is a no go here... going to look at logs | 21:44 |
| tjaalton | oh, I meant aiglx | 21:44 |
| ScislaC | ah, no... aiglx does not work with the newest xserver according to many reports on phoronix and my own experience of it not doing what it should (yes I whitelisted fglrx for compiz and all that jazz) | 21:45 |
| ScislaC | or... let me say | 21:45 |
| tjaalton | do you have a link? | 21:45 |
| ScislaC | FGLRX 8.42 does not use AIGLX correctly with the new version | 21:46 |
| ScislaC | give me a couple mins to dig up | 21:46 |
| bryce | hmm, you're right - last update was the 20th. I'll start capturing logs on it. meanwhile I'm doing a manual update now | 21:46 |
| tjaalton | ok, nice to know that it's the driver failing :) | 21:46 |
| bryce | bbiab (lunch) | 21:46 |
| tjaalton | ScislaC: btw, I misread your original issue.. I thought you had some corruption on the screen or similar | 21:49 |
| ScislaC | no no... it was just the watermark originally :) | 21:49 |
| ScislaC | tjaalton: here's a thread that discusses it http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?p=37328 | 21:49 |
| tjaalton | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=449117 | 21:49 |
| ubotu | Debian bug 449117 in fglrx-driver "fglrx-driver: Corruption in the lower right corner with 8.42.3" [Important,Open] | 21:49 |
| tjaalton | that's why it sounded familiar | 21:50 |
| tjaalton | thanks, I'll read | 21:50 |
| ScislaC | I've seen a few threads on phoronix mention the aiglx and xserver-xorg version issue too... so the compiz thread isn't alone | 21:50 |
| ScislaC | tjaalton: as for that bug, yes, I have seen the corruption twice there... once when I had the watermark, and the other today after I removed the watermark | 21:51 |
| tjaalton | ScislaC: ok, let's wait for the next release then | 22:01 |
| * ScislaC nods | 22:02 | |
| ScislaC | tjaalton: I've seen mixed reports of 8.43 fixing the aiglx issue | 22:02 |
| ScislaC | I'll keep you posted either way, just because it's good to have more info rather than less :) | 22:02 |
| tjaalton | well, if there is going to be a 2.6.24rc kernel for the alpha, we are forced to update fglrx :/ | 22:06 |
| tjaalton | or :) | 22:07 |
| tjaalton | I wonder if libx11 needs a rebuild because of the new libxcb | 22:13 |
| jcristau | eh? there's no soname change | 22:14 |
| ScislaC | tjaalton: just curious, with stuff like xserver-xgl, is that just the automatic merge from debian, or is the ubuntu X team doing stuff like that? | 22:15 |
| tjaalton | jcristau: oh, right | 22:25 |
| tjaalton | ScislaC: could you rephrase that? | 22:26 |
| tjaalton | ScislaC: you mean if xserver-xgl is packaged by ubuntu? | 22:31 |
| tjaalton | seems to be the case | 22:32 |
| ScislaC | tjaalton: let me ask the real question... :) In Gutsy, if XGL was installed, gdm would automatically start a session with it. I'm just wondering if that was part of the xserver-xgl package or a gdm thing, or what. Mainly I wonder because it doesn't start an XGL session (even though it's still installed) with all the new xorg/xserver stuff. | 22:37 |
| tjaalton | see /etc/X11/Xsession.d/98xserver-xgl_start-server | 22:38 |
| tjaalton | which is from xserver-xgl | 22:39 |
| tjaalton | I'd just get rid of xgl ;) | 22:39 |
| tjaalton | like, completely | 22:39 |
| bryce | tjaalton: hmm, versions page updated, but the old packages haven't dropped off | 22:40 |
| bryce | http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Xorg/versions_current.html | 22:40 |
| tjaalton | is it because of gutsy still being listed? | 22:40 |
| bryce | hmm, it shouldn't. let me poke a bit | 22:41 |
| bryce | appres is one that should be disappeared now, yes? | 22:42 |
| bryce | aha, found the issue | 22:43 |
| bryce | (the chroot wasn't getting apt-get update'd) | 22:45 |
| tjaalton | hehe | 22:45 |
| bryce | ok regenning. thanks for catching the problem | 22:45 |
| ubotu | New bug: #165282 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "laptop freezes after log out with Intel 855GM graphic chip" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165282 | 22:45 |
| tjaalton | there should be a couple of apps left which are not in x11* bundles, and are probably worth dropping completely | 22:47 |
| tjaalton | although there is a debian bug about adding beforelight | 22:47 |
| * bryce nods | 22:48 | |
| bryce | page is refreshed now | 22:48 |
| bryce | I bet we could drop beforelight and no one would care | 22:48 |
| bryce | woow, look at all the green :-) | 22:49 |
| tjaalton | yeah :) | 22:50 |
| tjaalton | apps are still listed though :) | 22:50 |
| bryce | do you know if the -evdev package pre-1.2.0, or post-1.2.0? | 22:51 |
| bryce | er ^is^ | 22:51 |
| tjaalton | pre, but new enough | 22:51 |
| tjaalton | actually, 1.2.0 breaks all evdev setups that doesn't use input-hotplug | 22:54 |
| bryce | hmm, there doesn't seem to be much recent activity on -avivo. I wonder if it's still relevant, or if we should think of deprecating it? | 22:54 |
| tormod | I don't think avivo makes any sense any longer. | 22:55 |
| tjaalton | right | 22:55 |
| tjaalton | soon radeonhd faces the same destiny :) | 22:55 |
| bryce | what's going to replace radeonhd? | 22:56 |
| tormod | what about -mga, should we file a sync request? | 22:56 |
| tjaalton | stuff being merged in -ati | 22:56 |
| tjaalton | atombios stuff | 22:56 |
| bryce | tjaalton: ahhhh nice | 22:56 |
| bryce | tormod: not a bad idea | 22:56 |
| tjaalton | you mean 1.9.100? | 22:56 |
| bryce | yeah | 22:56 |
| tormod | tjaalton: yes | 22:56 |
| bryce | I see it's in experimental | 22:56 |
| tjaalton | check the bugs first :) | 22:57 |
| bryce | maybe it'll sync over on its own once it's out of experimental? | 22:57 |
| tjaalton | yes | 22:57 |
| tormod | bryce: yes | 22:57 |
| bryce | ah | 22:57 |
| ScislaC | where can I find a list of cards that -ati currently supports? (the version in the repo) | 22:58 |
| bryce | any interesting stories with -sis? | 22:58 |
| bryce | ScislaC: I'm not sure there's a published list, but if you apt-get the source, you could look in the pci id file to check what's advertised as supported | 22:58 |
| tormod | bryce: I think 0.9.3-6 is almost as good as 0.9.4 | 22:59 |
| bryce | anyway, that short list of outstanding merges is pretty dang short! I'm impressed | 22:59 |
| ScislaC | maybe I'll just break my stuff real quick to test instead ;) | 23:00 |
| ScislaC | brb | 23:00 |
| tjaalton | too fast :) | 23:01 |
| tjaalton | his X1xx surely isn't supported | 23:01 |
| tormod | :) he could have just asked | 23:02 |
| tjaalton | yeah | 23:05 |
| bryce | nah, he loves testing this stuff | 23:08 |
| bryce | what's the difference between -dbg and -dbgsym? | 23:11 |
| jcristau | the latter is ubuntu-specific and exists for all packages, aiui | 23:12 |
| tormod | bryce: I think -dbg is when the source package makes it and -dbgsym when it's built separately | 23:12 |
| tormod | but I think packages should be fixed to not build -dbg. | 23:13 |
| tormod | hmm I asked about this here or somewhere else but don't remember the answer :) | 23:13 |
| bryce | ah interesting | 23:14 |
| bryce | I kind of like it when packages have -dbg's -- makes it simpler to build both versions for testers | 23:15 |
| tormod | yes but there is just a package to install that will always make dbgsym's using a hook in debian/rules | 23:16 |
| tjaalton | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mozillateam/2007-March/000215.html | 23:17 |
| tjaalton | so there are no user-installable packages called $pkg-dbgsym | 23:18 |
| tjaalton | but some have $pkg-dbg | 23:18 |
| tormod | I found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyDebugPackageRemoval | 23:18 |
| bryce | huh, interesting | 23:19 |
| bryce | ok, in any case, that's enough to answer the user's question, thanks. | 23:20 |
| ScislaC | well... no -ati for me... but radeonhd works okay. All that matters is that I have a semi-working driver that doesn't peg one of my cores (as the new fglrx does) | 23:21 |
| bryce | brb | 23:22 |
| bryce | <-- ScislaC has quit ("Leaving.") | 23:22 |
| bryce | <tjaalton> too fast :) | 23:22 |
| bryce | his X1xx surely isn't supported | 23:22 |
| bryce | <tormod> :) he could have just asked | 23:22 |
| bryce | ;-) | 23:22 |
| ScislaC | hehehe | 23:22 |
| tormod | what card do you have? | 23:22 |
| ScislaC | mobility X1400 | 23:22 |
| tormod | ScislaC: you could try the atombios branch of -ati git... | 23:24 |
| tjaalton | 01:21 < ScislaC> well... no -ati for me... but radeonhd works okay | 23:24 |
| tjaalton | but yeah, why not try that as well :) | 23:24 |
| tormod | when "okay" is too boring :) | 23:24 |
| ScislaC | heh... okay is always too boring ;) | 23:25 |
| tjaalton | "I can see something moving on the screen.. I'll try git head instead" | 23:25 |
| ScislaC | heh | 23:25 |
| ScislaC | you want to point me to the url? (also, is there a recommended way to install so that I don't fudge repo updates?) | 23:26 |
| ScislaC | okay then... | 23:29 |
| ScislaC | apparently this driver is a little buggy :P | 23:29 |
| tjaalton | \o/ | 23:29 |
| tjaalton | more fun | 23:29 |
| ScislaC | I tried to start something that required acceleration, but, it died... | 23:30 |
| ScislaC | I so wish I had stuck with the intel graphics chip instead of going for the ati... :( | 23:31 |
| ScislaC | oh well... one more person to help you guys test stuff ;) | 23:32 |
| ScislaC | oh hey... didn't even notice keescook in here :) | 23:32 |
| * keescook waves "hi" to ScislaC :) | 23:32 | |
| ScislaC | heya keescook! how goes in security land? | 23:32 |
| keescook | goes okay. still need more hours in the day. :) | 23:33 |
| keescook | how're you doing? | 23:33 |
| ScislaC | doing okay... the funny thing? I'm also still having that hours in the day problem. ;) | 23:34 |
| keescook | hehe | 23:34 |
| tormod | ScislaC: http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati.git;a=shortlog;h=atombios-support | 23:38 |
| tormod | ScislaC: for how to make debs out of it, do something like http://wiki.debian.org/XTips | 23:39 |
| jcristau | or just run autogen.sh && make and copy the resulting radeon_drv.so in /usr/lib/xorg/modules | 23:42 |
| bryce | heya keescook | 23:46 |
| keescook | hiya bryce | 23:46 |
| ScislaC | tormod: pardon my git stupidity... when I do a git clone git://git.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati, I don't seem to get the AtomBios stuff with it... (and I don't believe I need everything on a higher level from the git repo either, but may be wrong about that) | 23:51 |
| tormod | you have to change to the atombios branch | 23:52 |
| jcristau | ScislaC: you need to checkout the atombios-support branch after the clone | 23:52 |
| jcristau | git-checkout -b atombios-support origin/atombios-support | 23:52 |
| ScislaC | hmmm not quite getting it yet (still new to git)... have to run and will try tomorrow... | 23:57 |
| ScislaC | bbl | 23:57 |
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