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hal9k2010in 6.10 i am supose to have a trash bin00:00
hal9k2010no trash bin in the desktop00:00
hal9k2010did i lost you ?00:00
somerville32Gah!!00:02
somerville32:(00:02
dddddnot patient00:02
ddddd!nvidia | Deus10100:03
ubotuDeus101: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:03
Deus101ubotu: i have allready done so00:09
dddddDeus101: then you have a problem "ome graphics hardware (aka video cards) may need non-free drivers, even though these drivers are not part of the open source community and cannot be fixed by open source software developers. If you encounter bugs with these closed-source drivers, developers will not be able or even willing to assist you in resolving your issues. Use at your own risk."00:12
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docgnomeTwo questions. First how do I set a keybinding to show the desktop in xubuntu? And second, how do I change the capslock to a ctrl key?00:15
ddddddocgnome: applications -> settings -> settingsmanager -> keyboard -> second tab -> add (i think) if someone knows better speak out loud !00:19
docgnomeAye, the problem is how do i add show desktop? It wants a command and I've no idea what to put. I've tried show-desktop and the like but nothing seems to do the trick.00:21
somerville32docgnome, Try asking in #xfce00:28
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docgnomeHas anyone else had problems with Xgl/Compiz and the fglrx driver suddenly deciding no to work?01:25
docgnomeI was logged in and then I logged out and X broke and didn't recognize my monitor/video card properly and refused to use anything but vesa01:25
Dan8765can someone help me w/ an install?01:35
Dan8765i'm at the prepare partiions screen01:36
Dan8765or give me a link01:38
XwarlokX83can someone tell me how to set a separate wallpaper for each desktop?01:38
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Deus101its cant be driver issue, x hasnt even got a chance to startx01:42
Deus101start01:42
d1n0i'm having problems with my two logitech bluetooth dongles. i have bought two dinovo's, the last one is dinovo edge, and the other one is the laser version with a mx1000 mouse (keyboard from this set is deffect and not in use). both mx1000 and dinovo edge works fine under xubuntu, but in ubuntu and kubuntu it doesn't work! Can Anyone help? This channel is kinda flooded, so if you could use /msg i would appreciate it! thx02:20
abhihi there03:00
xossis wine installable in xubuntu?03:04
XwarlokX82xoss, yes its in synaptic03:04
xosscan't seem to get it installed..03:05
XwarlokX82hmm...03:05
XwarlokX82thats odd, i have it installed03:05
XwarlokX82should be version 0.9.46 in synaptic.. whats not working for ya?03:06
xossthere is no wine package in synaptics03:06
xosscurrently reloading and set repositories to main server03:07
xossstill no wine package on synaptics03:09
TheSheep!info wine03:09
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.46-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 33097 kB, installed size 103228 kB03:09
TheSheep!repos | xoss03:09
ubotuxoss: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource03:09
xossgot any touch typing application you can suggest?03:10
TheSheepxoss: klavaro03:10
xossok will check it out03:10
xossthanks TheSheep03:11
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XwarlokX82xoss, do you have those repos enabled?03:14
xossjust now, i also checked multiverse03:15
xossstill reloading03:15
TheSheepxoss: wine is in universe03:17
TheSheepxoss: you can also add the wine repository to have the absolutely most recent version03:17
TheSheep!wine | xoss03:18
ubotuxoss: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.03:18
xossthanks guys03:18
xossgot it already currently installing03:18
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XwarlokX82I'm nothing if not persistant...damned weather03:32
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graelbAnybody know anything about xubuntu on tablets? I'm trying to get my screen to rotate 90 degrees.... no idea where to start04:11
graelbAnybody know anything about xubuntu on tablets? I'm trying to get my screen to rotate 90 degrees.... no idea where to start04:11
graelbwhoa wrong window04:11
graelbpretend i only sent that once04:11
TheSheepgraelb: there is an option in the xorg to rotate the screen, but it requires restarting the X04:13
graelbhrm...04:13
graelbTheSheep: there's no way that you know of to do it while X is running?04:14
TheSheepgraelb: no, but ther may be04:16
* graelb nods04:16
TheSheepgraelb: check the forums maybe04:16
graelbTheSheep: Ok, step ahead of you =)04:16
Dan8765i just installed linux04:42
Dan8765how do i change the mouse speed settings?04:42
Dan8765test04:44
Dan8765is anyone there?04:44
Catoptromancysettting menu04:45
Dan8765k04:47
Dan8765my firefox update is ghosted04:48
Dan8765it is 2.0.0.604:48
Dan8765i downloaded 2.0.0.904:48
Dan8765dont know how to insall it though. :004:49
TheSheepDan8765: which xubuntu are you running?04:49
Dan87657.1004:49
TheSheepDan8765: Gutsy?04:49
Dan8765yes04:49
TheSheepDan8765: you should have 2.0.0.8 in the repositories04:49
TheSheepDan8765: juts run update04:49
TheSheepjust04:49
Dan8765it didnt update anything04:53
TheSheep!info firefox05:00
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.8+2nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 8967 kB, installed size 26024 kB05:00
TheSheepDan8765: try to upgrade it using synaptic then05:01
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Dan8765it only shows 2.0.0.605:03
Dan8765i guess i cant update it then05:04
Dan8765thats ok05:04
TheSheepDan8765: update your database05:04
TheSheepDan8765: click on the first icon from the left in synaptic05:05
Dan8765same05:06
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BotzuCan anybody help me with an installation problem?07:59
BotzuPretty please?08:00
BotzuOk, so I got the boot CD, Xubuntu screen comes up, I press Start or Install, then it loads up for about 3 minutes...afterwards it goes to a blank screen with a blinking cursor in the upper-left corner...how can I resolve this issue?08:02
BotzuOk, so I got the boot CD, Xubuntu screen comes up, I press Start or Install, then it loads up for about 3 minutes...afterwards it goes to a blank screen with a blinking cursor in the upper-left corner...how can I resolve this issue?08:04
Botzuany thoughts?08:04
BotzuOk, so I got the boot CD, Xubuntu screen comes up, I press Start or Install, then it loads up for about 3 minutes...afterwards it goes to a blank screen with a blinking cursor in the upper-left corner...how can I resolve this issue?08:08
Botzuany thoughts?08:09
BotzuOk, so I got the boot CD, Xubuntu screen comes up, I press Start or Install, then it loads up for about 3 minutes...afterwards it goes to a blank screen with a blinking cursor in the upper-left corner...how can I resolve this issue?08:21
Botzucan anyone help me?08:21
ablomenBotzu, you dont have to re-post, people may not be watching the channel all the time, but if someone does and has an idea he'll help ya ;)08:43
ablomenanyway, while loading up, do you get a nice xubuntu logo and status bar, or do you get a lot of text scrolling by?08:44
Botzuit was the nice bar08:45
Botzuand sorry for the reposting, I'm just a bit frustrated with this PC08:46
ablomenhmm if you switch around with ctrl+alt F1 to F7 do you see anything that looks like an error? (when you get the blinking cursor)08:48
BotzuI didn't try that, but now I can't get the cursor, lol08:49
ablomenhehe :P08:50
BotzuI'm attempting to put Xubuntu on an older HP Desktop08:51
Botzuit's got 192mbs or ram and 32mb graphics card08:52
ablomenah then you might want to use the alternate install cd08:54
ablomenthats a lot better (for old pc's)08:54
ablomenand new ones imho08:54
BotzuOk, I've reached some kind of console using the f1+ctrl+alt08:54
Botzuahh08:54
Botzuok08:54
Botzuis there anything i could do from this screen?08:54
Botzuit doesn't say there are any errors08:54
Botzuwell wait...08:55
ablomenwell id just download the alternate cd, it will save you a lot of trouble08:55
Botzuok08:55
ablomenits an easy install aswell, just ncurses (text) based08:55
Botzuthanks for the help ablomen :)08:55
ablomennp, good luck Botzu :)08:55
gerroBotz: noapic option09:43
gerroablomen: certain amd processors don't have pic chip A to control irqs and therefor give a blank screen09:44
ablomengerro, ah hmm good to remember for next time09:44
gerroyeah safe mode helps and so does alternate install however grub menu.lst will have to be edited to have noapic boot option09:45
ablomenjust hope the alternate install will fix it for him too, i figured it was a ram problem09:45
ablomenah ok09:45
gerrowell if he's about later tell him09:45
ablomenyep :)09:46
gerromy little bro got a comp just this summer had that happen09:46
ablomenhmm yeah heard acpi is kinda crap nowadays, after a certain big company laid its hand on it09:47
WauloKI have a Q..11:37
WauloKi might have to try the forum :-/11:41
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Dan8765question: how do i find my hard drive partitions?14:19
Dan8765whats the dir14:19
vinzeDan8765, when they are mounted, they will mostly display in /media14:19
Dan8765i'm trying to locate my bookmarks dir so i  can import from my windows dir14:19
Dan8765well when i go to import it doesnt show the volumes14:19
Dan8765its system/...?14:20
vinzeDan8765, are you sure it is mounted?14:20
Dan8765yeah14:20
vinzeDan8765, and where do you click import?14:20
Dan8765hold pls14:20
Dan8765i think it wasnt mounted14:20
Dan8765:)14:20
vinze:P14:21
Pres-Gasshadebug, did you figure out your issue from Friday?14:21
Dan8765cool got that figured out14:21
Dan8765yeah ur right /media14:21
Dan8765i got firefox updated, jre installed and flash player14:22
Dan8765i dont think my audio works though14:23
Dan8765where do i go to check the volume control14:23
Dan8765make sure its not muted or something14:23
vinzeDan8765, you can add a Volume Control applet to the panel14:23
Dan8765ok14:23
Dan8765just right click i seen that14:23
vinzeOr you could run xfce4-mixer14:23
Dan8765i added a system resource thing to the bottom taskbar14:23
Dan8765from terminal?14:24
vinzeDan8765, yeah14:24
Dan8765i can do that from any dir?14:24
vinzeYes14:24
Dan8765thanks14:24
Dan8765anyone know how i get my audio to work?14:31
Dan8765i got a sb pci512 sound card14:31
Dan8765im' new to linux just installed it last night14:31
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Dan8765everything works except audio14:31
codenamektmake sure volume all the way up on mixer14:31
Dan8765yes i did check that14:31
codenamektwish i knew the command off hand but i don't14:31
codenamektdo lspci in terminal14:31
codenamekttell me if u see the card14:32
Dan8765does it make audio beep like windows does when u adjust volume level?14:32
Dan8765whats the best way to test my audio14:33
Dan8765i dont think i can play mp3's yet14:33
vinzeDan8765, play music?14:33
vinzeDan8765, there's music in /usr/share/example-content14:33
codenamektDan8765, did u do lspci or are u ignoring me now14:34
Dan8765y would i bee ignoring u14:34
Dan8765lspci?14:34
Dan8765what is that14:34
codenamekta command to run in terminal for the second time14:35
Dan8765ran that14:36
Dan8765sorry i got to run back and forth from pc's14:36
Dan8765i'm on my other windows machine14:36
vinze:P14:36
Dan8765i dont have irc for the linux system yet14:36
codenamektdid u see your sound card listed?14:37
Dan8765yeah it said multimedia dev somthing14:37
Dan8765just a sec14:37
codenamekti so bet it is ur volume levels14:37
codenamektpretty sure soundblaster cards are supported pretty well14:37
Dan8765ok let me go that that dir that vinze said and try to play some music14:38
codenamekthas even tried to play sound before this?14:38
codenamekthow did he know his card didn't work if he never had sound to play14:39
codenamektif a tree falls and no one is there to hear it does it make a boom?14:39
vinzecodenamekt, there's probably a #philosophy for that ;-)14:39
Dan8765no i never tried to lpay sound14:40
Dan8765i just installed linux last night14:41
codenamektdid it work?14:41
Dan8765oh i mean yeah it works for windows14:41
Dan8765i got a dual boot on that pc14:41
codenamektbut the sound did it play14:41
Dan8765yeah, well let me go reboot and make sure14:41
Dan8765havn't check audio in long time14:41
codenamektlol14:41
Dan8765i really udont use audio much for that pc14:41
Dan8765no speakers, i just have earbuds14:42
Dan8765lol14:42
codenamektmy three year old only gets earbuds with her computer14:42
codenamektkeeps her sitting down i love em14:42
Dan8765yep audio wroks in windows14:44
Dan8765rebooting...14:44
codenamektthats why u rebooted?14:44
codenamekti gotta go to work14:44
Dan8765no i booted to xp14:45
Dan8765to check my audio card was working14:45
Dan8765now i'm going back to linux14:45
Dan8765to figure out why my sound donesnt work14:45
Dan8765oh ok codenekt thanks for your help14:46
jaybird7Hello, will using a lighter distro make my laptop battery last longer?14:46
Dan8765i like how it saves ur sesions on exit14:46
Dan8765my windows are back up so i dont have to go through those dirs again14:46
Pres-Gasjaybird7, depends.  If you are using a lighter distro, but watching alot of youtube, you may not see all that much benefit.  A lighter distro may not use as much cpu/gpu cycles with eyecandy though.14:50
jaybird7okay thank you Pres-Gas14:51
Pres-Gasjaybird7, I will admit that I miss windowmaker, but until I get the hang of all the wireless stuff, I admire the integration of gnome for laptops at least14:53
jaybird7Pres-Gas : okay, sorry i dont really understand.   i dont know what windowmaker is? nor do i know what is meant by the integration of gnome for laptops? and when talking about wireless stuff are you talking about programming stuff?14:56
Dan8765got my audio working15:15
vinzeDan8765, how?15:16
Dan8765what do in install to get my mp3's to play...its give error... Audio Codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some tyupes of movies15:17
Dan8765i didnt have my recommended updates15:17
Dan8765i just had the critical ones installed15:17
Dan8765i did the recommended then rebooted and ti worked15:17
Dan8765anyone know how to get mp3's to play15:21
Dan8765?15:21
vinzeDan8765, with which media player?15:21
Dan8765i was using totem movie player15:22
Dan8765will it not play them?15:22
vinzeYeah of course it will15:22
vinzeDan8765, you mean the one shipped by default with Xubuntu 7.10?15:22
Dan8765yes15:22
Dan8765like i said i just installed this and am new to it all15:22
Dan8765only thing i done so far is update firefox, install jre, and flashplayer15:22
Dan8765now i got my audio working15:23
vinzeDan8765, you can install xubuntu-restricted-extras to get most codecs working15:23
Dan8765i need a plugin apparently to play mp3's15:23
Dan8765ok15:23
Dan8765ty15:23
vinzeDan8765, but for just MP3 you should install libxine1-ffmpeg15:23
Dan8765thats in the repository?15:24
vinzeDan8765, yes15:24
vinzeDan8765, but perhaps you need to enable "multiverse"15:24
vinzeDan8765, in Settings->Repositories in Synaptic15:24
Dan8765installing the libxine1ffmeg now15:26
shadebugPres-Gas: not as yet, I got wire shark involved and then realised I didn't have the faintest idea on how to use it. Though I'm currently nowhere near the computer in question so I can't do too much about it15:26
Dan8765works now thx vinze15:27
vinzeDan8765, no problem :)15:27
Pres-Gasshadebug, that is cool, I have been ducking in and out but wondered what was up.15:35
shadebugPres-Gas: good to know somebody cares15:37
Pres-Gaslol15:38
Pres-GasIndeed15:38
Pres-GasWell, I am in support and have a lot to learn myself, so I am interested in how problems are getting solved.15:39
Pres-GasAll while listening to Shellac15:39
Dan8765what you guys using for irc?15:42
* vinze uses Xchat15:42
Dan8765k15:42
* Pres-Gas uses finch...your one stop IM shop.15:42
shadebugirssi, ftw15:42
shadebugirssi + bitlbee = orrsum15:42
Dan8765which is more like mirc15:43
Dan8765?15:43
* vinze doesn't know mirc15:43
Dan8765ok15:44
Dan8765i'll try xchat15:44
Dan87652.8.4?15:44
vinzeMine is 2.8.4 yes15:45
vinzeThe normal one, not xchat-gnome15:45
Dan8765_linuxopen for busines15:49
Dan8765_linux:)15:49
vinze:)15:50
Dan8765jlkj15:50
Dan8765to remove a usb drive what is the best/correct way?15:51
Dan8765just unmount then unplug/15:51
Dan8765?15:51
vinzeDan8765, yes15:51
Dan8765ok15:51
Dan8765how do i check what screen res im running?15:53
Dan8765i guess its not in desktop prfs15:54
Dan8765oh seeting msanager15:55
Dan8765i must not have the right drivers for my vid card cause the screen savesr are very low fps15:58
Dan8765_linuxtest16:00
nick4I get a window open whenever I insert a CD in the CD-ROM drive or a USB storage device. I still want them to auto-mount but not open a window. How do I do this?16:36
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vinzenick4, in Thunar, go to Edit->Prefences, Advanced tab, click "configure"16:42
nick4ahh, thank you vinze :) I was looking for this in Applications > System16:43
vinze:)16:43
vinzeIt's a bit obscure, yeah16:43
Dan8765hybernation works good....turns my pc completely off16:51
somerville32Dan8765, Thats what it is suppose to do16:52
Dan8765great now i turned it back on and i got no dislay16:53
somerville32It will come16:54
somerville32lol16:54
Dan8765second boot worked16:54
Dan8765i just installed my nvida drivers16:54
Dan8765thought a had a big problem for a minute there16:54
somerville32When it resumes from hibernate, it is in screensaver mood16:55
somerville32So you have to wake it16:55
Dan8765how do i logout and logback in16:56
Dan8765i seen it was like ctrl alt l16:56
Dan8765that dont work for me16:56
somerville32Click Applications > Quit16:56
Dan8765like in Xp you hit windows key L16:56
Dan8765ok16:57
Dan8765i'm rebooting again16:57
somerville32see: Applications > Settings > Keyboard for bindings16:57
Dan8765i think cause of the hybernate it didtn save my res settings16:57
Dan8765ok16:57
Dan8765didnt save it that time either16:58
Dan8765keeps going back to 1280x102416:58
Dan8765i dont have a keybaord for bindings17:00
somerville32You don't use a keyboard?17:01
Dan8765yes, but i mean i dont have a aplaications/settings/keyboard for bidig17:02
Dan8765im using 7.1017:03
Dan8765i have keyboard settings but dont see a tab for bindings17:03
somerville32Shortcuts, I think it is called17:04
Dan8765thers and fllock4 cntl+alt+delete17:05
Dan8765but it dont work17:05
Dan8765i guess its cntl alt backspace17:10
somerville32:/17:17
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chimpHey i just installed xubuntu on a laptop, 1ghz cpu, 230 odd meg of ram, and its running extremely slowly, i know i wasnt expecting anything lightning fast, but it ran xp quite a bit faster17:59
chimpFor example if i go onto "resources" on system monitor, it maxes the cpu out at 100%17:59
somerville32Thats really weird18:00
somerville32I wonder what process is maxing out.18:00
somerville32Can you bring up the process list?18:00
chimperm oh wait, sorry its the process list that makes it max out18:01
chimpand if i go onto it, then onto resources, it will show it having been on 100% the whole time it was on the processes list18:01
chimpyet the processes list only shows about 10-15% total for all the processes18:01
somerville32Open up the terminal and type: top18:02
chimpWill do, gimme a second its rebooting18:02
somerville32It should list the processes by CPU usage18:02
chimpahh thats useful18:02
chimpOk, fresh reboot running nothing but a terminal Xorg is using ~50%18:05
somerville32Oh wow.18:05
somerville32chimp, Did you change any of your X settings?18:06
chimpI did nothing18:06
chimpI installed it via netboot18:06
chimpAnd this is how it was when it finished18:06
somerville32What version of Xubuntu are you running?18:06
chimpAlthough, when the netboot installation finished (i went off to uni and came back few hrs later) it had just a black screen and was doing nothing, had to reboot it18:06
chimp7.1018:06
somerville32Video card?18:07
chimpsome old crappy one18:07
chimp1 sec18:07
chimpill tell you18:07
chimpSilicon Motion SM720 Lynx3DM18:07
chimpso no idea how to help?18:26
evil_techwhat is the problem?18:27
chimp50% usage of cpu from xorg when i do top in terminal18:28
evil_techouch18:29
evil_techwhat are the specs on that vid card and the contents of xorg.conf18:30
evil_techthe main things i can think of that could cause that are incorrect color depth or possibly incorrectly set framebuffer size18:31
evil_techi've had that happen on older laptops where X trys to run at 24 bit color depth and the video only supports 16 or lower18:32
evil_techso the extra color information has to be processed by ram and cpu (or swap if there isnt a whole lot of ram)18:33
chimpahh ill have a look18:33
chimphard to get info on this card18:34
chimpxorg is the default one it installed with ill try to show you it18:35
evil_techpastebin it please18:35
chimperm difficult18:36
evil_techdont wanna get yelled at :D (though it is a good way to get TheSheep attention :P )18:36
chimpYou see, havent got the wireless pcmia card working properly yet18:36
chimpSo im typing through my desktop18:36
evil_techah18:36
evil_techwell in that case just tell me what xorg.conf says the color depth is18:37
chimptakes time, laptop is running sooo slow because of this18:37
chimptakes 30s+ to open a terminal18:37
evil_techkill x and go to command line18:39
chimpwell this is weird18:39
chimpI tried changing the screen type in "screens and graphics" from "plug and play" to lcd 1024x... and it messed up for a while, placed me back at the login screen, gives me a resolution smaller than the screen so that the screen has black edges, but xorg only using <3% now18:40
chimpyeah, it changed the resolution to 800x600 by itself18:40
chimpEven though im sure thats not its native resolution18:41
evil_techhmm18:41
evil_techive had that problem in Fluxbuntu18:44
chimpdefault depth 2418:44
evil_techi think that is too high for that card18:44
evil_techwhat are the rest of the specs on the machine18:44
chimp1ghz ( tho its some non pentium or amd type processor)18:45
chimp230meg ram18:45
chimpill set it to what, 16 bit?18:45
evil_techhmm18:46
evil_techid say reconfigure x and put it at 1024x768 and 16 bit color18:46
evil_techsee if it likes that18:47
evil_techis it a cyrix?18:47
chimpk18:47
evil_techtype cat /proc/cpuinfo in a terminal18:47
chimpCruesoe18:47
chimpCrusoe*18:48
chimpyer, "transmeta crusoe"18:48
evil_techhmm18:49
evil_techheard of them but thats all i know18:49
chimpis there anywhere to set the colour depth other than in xorg.conf19:12
evil_technot that i know of19:13
evil_techyou could technically just edit xorg.conf without running the reconfiguration and then restart x19:14
evil_techi forget what the command to do that is. CTRL + ALT + Backspace?19:15
evil_techno19:15
evil_techblarg cant remember19:15
chimpctrl-alt-backspace restarts x19:15
chimpThis is annoying19:16
chimpnow even though its native resoltuions is 1024x7.... it is doing that thing were the screen is shown at 800x600 and you can scroll at the edges19:16
evil_techso it is running 1024 x 768 in an 800 x 600 sized space19:17
evil_techthat is annoying19:17
chimpwow19:30
chimpwell thats odd19:30
chimpnow the splash screen looks and runs fast19:30
chimperm login screen19:30
chimpbut after logging it its totally messed :P19:30
evil_techlol19:30
chimpis there a shortcut to quit x19:31
chimpso i just have a prompt19:32
evil_techwell you could kill x19:33
wyrdctrl + alt + F1 to 619:33
wyrdwill give you one of 6 consoles19:34
evil_techthat leaves x running on F7 though19:34
wyrdand then you can kill it19:34
evil_techat the login screen you can switch to one of the TTY19:34
evil_techyay packet tracer runs in WINE19:41
chimphow can i start x from the  command line please :)19:52
wyrd/etc/init.d/gdm start19:52
wyrdif memory serves19:52
wyrdor startx19:52
chimperrr19:53
chimpthings are messed19:53
wyrdhow so?19:53
chimpthing it needs a reboot basically19:54
chimphard to describe19:54
methods[death]what is safe graphics mode ?20:01
methods[death]does the desktop cd not include the alternative install ?20:01
evil_techstarts x with the minimum needed to run20:05
evil_techif you want the alternative install then you need to down the alternative disc20:05
chimpoHmm ok i really buggered the xorg.conf by changing the screen type in "screens and graphics(or something like thaT)20:16
chimpoand i cant remeber what was a setting that worked20:16
chimposince i can only access the xorg.conf now and not the one when x boots20:16
TheSheepchimpo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg20:16
chimpocheers20:17
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chimpogarghhh, went through all of the reconfigure thing, and its still messed, how odd20:27
drc822i installed kubuntu a while back and decided that i do not like kde so i installed xfce instead. now that seems to be really unstable as im using a lot of kde apps. Dont think that it should matter that much but xfce seems to crash constantly on different situations21:16
drc822just wondering if i have done something wrong and what not..21:16
drc822bleh lah..21:18
NullNameyou guys how can I turn on color editing with vim in xubuntu 7.10?21:20
NullNamewhen I do ":syntax on" it says I hae the wrong version21:21
zoredacheNullName: which version of vim are you using?21:23
zoredachethe 'default' vim-tiny package doesn't support highlightig I think21:24
zoredachetry install vim-full21:25
nopcodehey21:25
nopcodehow do i rescue my xubuntu installation? the boot loaders gone21:25
NullNamezoredache: 7.121:25
NullNamenevermind zoredache: I just found a shitload of plugins under synaptic21:26
nopcodei've been trying to boot with the 7.10 x64 boot cd but i only get a black screen after the boot menu21:26
NullNameI'm installing a ton of vim addons and what not21:26
NullNameit should do the trick21:26
NullNamethanks guys...that did it21:26
nopcodei mean21:27
nopcodeit sticks at this black screen ,right21:27
nopcodebut at some point it starts loading stuff21:27
nopcodebut nevertheless, the screen stays black.21:27
nopcodei'm trying the alternate cd now21:32
nopcodebut i really feel selecting "text mode" should print _something_ about the booting process21:32
nopcodeif only so people know it's not dead21:32
nopcodesince it sits on a black screen for ages until it does something on the drive21:32
chimpoThis is still really pissing me off21:39
chimpoAt the login screen its absolutely perfect21:39
chimpofull screen everything21:39
chimposoon as i log in, all hell breaks loose21:39
brick__could someone point me to a place where i can find some info on how to setup a "live terminal"(terminal as a part off the desktop background) ,, ?21:44
nopcodedocs of your WM prolly21:45
nopcodeand maybe man xterm21:45
brick__ok.. i heard it was possible using conky... is that right ?21:45
zoredachethe conky package description seems to suggest that as a possibility... I haven't used it though...21:48
slow-motionhallo21:49
chimpoWhen booting from grub, what commands can i give it so it doesnt boot into x, but into a terminal?21:58
zoredachechoose the rescue mode?21:58
chimpoahh22:00
* chimpo is fool22:00
Alyxanderhey room22:23
somerville32Hi22:27
POVaddctmoin22:30
POVaddctwarum zum geier man denn adept, wenn man xubuntu hat?22:31
POVaddct*nimmt man22:32
POVaddctnevermind22:32
bmodhi ppl22:43
bmodhow can i stop x from running (ie. just bash, no x)22:45
bmod?22:45
somerville32bmod, You just disable it from starting at boot22:46
bmodi used to do 'init 3' or so, but it doesn't seem to work properly22:46
nanonymeyou'd have to disable gdm22:46
bmodgdm? (i'm sorry, i'm having a really awkward video mode right now)22:47
nanonymegnome display manager22:47
nanonymeit's the one that starts X22:47
bmod322:47
bmodok22:47
nanonymealso22:48
nanonymebmod, ctrl+alt+f1 gets you a non-X shell22:48
nanonymectrl+alt+f7 brings you back22:49
bmodyeah i know, but i need to disable x temporarily to install the nvidia drivers (that's what i'm trying to do anyway)22:49
bmodoh x22:49
bmodX22:50
bmodok sorry for the spam22:50
nanonymebmod, /etc/init.d/gdm stop22:51
nanonymethen install nvidia drivers22:51
nanonyme(most ubuntu users would install them and boot the computer)22:52
bmodhehe, but i could use 'gdm start' to restart x?22:52
nanonymesure22:53
bmodthnx22:53
nanonymeif X is setup properly22:53
bmodi hope i'm smart enough for that (prolly not)22:53
bmodhere goes nothing22:54
bmodoh btw, i have a tty that's trying to stop cupsd22:54
bmodapparently i had problems with cupsys during the upgrade to the latest xubuntu22:55
bmodis that something i did?22:55
bmodor does the cups thing have problems anyway22:56
bmod[spam spam] my terminals stopped reacting to user(lamer?) input22:58
somerville32do: /etc/init.d/gdm start22:58
bmodas root22:58
bmod?22:58
somerville32To restart X, when you're ready, yea22:59
dooglusis there any way to set my locale in xubuntu?23:01
dooglusI want pidgin to spellcheck in english, not american23:01
somerville32Applications > System > Language Support23:03
dooglusthanks23:04
dooglusheh, it's installing over 15MB of stuff and it didn't even ask what language I want yet!23:05
somerville32:D23:05
somerville32It is just that smart23:05
dooglusit's downloading 10,8MB of 'openoffice.org-help-en-gb'23:06
dooglusI don't use openoffice at all - that's not very smart :)23:06
somerville32lol23:06
dooglusI just want pidgin not to keep telling me that colour is spelled wrong23:07
somerville32Is OpenOffice installed?23:07
dooglusI guess so23:07
dooglusI think ubuntu-desktop depends on it23:07
somerville32You have it ubuntu-desktop installed?23:08
bmodwell so far so good, but which package do i need for the libc headers?23:09
bmodi have libc6 but that prob won't do23:09
dooglusI have ubuntu-desktop installed, yes.  some users use GNOME23:11
dooglusbmod: libc6-dev23:12
bmodthanks23:13
bmodwow tty chat looks much better23:14
somerville32:)23:15
bmodwhy is there no 'default' nvidia support within ubuntu for noobs like me?23:16
dooglusbmod: irssi is nice23:16
dooglussomerville32: what do my non-root xfce users do to set their language?23:17
dooglussomerville32: I speak English, but some of the people using this PC want to use Czech23:17
somerville32Umm..23:17
bmodirssi?23:18
dooglussetting the default language seems to need the sudo password23:18
dooglusis there no per-user setting?23:18
dooglusbmod: it's a console IRC client23:18
bmodah yes i see23:18
somerville32dooglus, I'm not entirely sure. Try asking TheSheep23:19
somerville32or in #xfce23:19
dooglussomerville32: I asked in #xfce - they told me "make sure that PAM includes it in the environment"23:20
dooglusI seem to remember that gdm used to have a 'language' drop down, but it's not there in gutsy, as far as I can see23:22
wbadgerbmod, are you just trying to install the nvidia driver?23:22
bmodyes and i succeeded23:23
wbadgerok but is there a reason why you didn't use the restricted drivers manager included in xubuntu?23:24
bmodBUT my screen is 'stuck' at 640x480 and i really like guis and wizards to configure video modes (and the window does'n fit)23:24
bmodrestricted? is that the one that popped up automatically?23:25
wbadgerI don't know if it does23:25
wbadgerbut that is the standard way to install nvidia drivers since feisty23:25
bmodoh yeah it did23:25
wbadgeryou just tick the driver23:25
bmoddamn, it just installed it automatically23:26
wbadgerand that's not.. don't have to turn off the gui or anything...23:26
wbadgerthat's it*23:26
bmodok that's the way i did it before23:26
bmodbut i have a hard time setting the resolution (the confirmation button flows out of my screen)23:27
somerville32Press atl + click on the window to drag it23:27
wbadgerexactly..23:27
wbadgeralso you could have just set the resolution and not install drivers23:27
bmod*doh*23:28
bmodi must be dead tired i guess23:28
bmodso... 'screen and graphics' is the window to use for resolution and enabling a second monitor?23:31
somerville32:]23:32
bmodthen 'logging off' to see changes actually means restarting x right?23:32
somerville32It should change the resolution right then and there23:33
bmodoh it doesn't23:33
bmodit asks me to log in again (but restarting gdm/x does the trick)23:34
bmod(ohhh i'm getting there!)23:34
somerville32:)23:35
bmodthen again, the nvidia drivers i just installed, seem to recognise my monitors, the screen&graphics thing doesn't show that to me23:35
bmod(btw i'm really glad you're helping)23:36
somerville32I'm not very good at graphic stuff but I'll try my best :]23:37
somerville32and no problem :]23:37
somerville32Thats what Ubuntu (Xubuntu) is all about :]23:37
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bmodso it seems, and what it tries to do, it does really well in my opinion23:38
bmodoh i just updated to the latest version (x)ubuntu but the updater halted halfway, can i force it to redo the whole thing just to make sure?23:41
somerville32bmod, no need23:46
somerville32Just continue23:46
bmodoh it's that smart eh, nice23:49
bmodbut i cant get my screens set up properly23:50
bmodwell i'll fiddle around a bit23:51
somerville32What seems to be the problem?23:51
bmodi set my larger monitor to 1600*1200 (which should work), manually specifying the brand/type23:51
bmodthen it gives me 640*480 and (nice) scrolling23:52
bmodbut not the full res23:52
somerville32Very weird.23:53
bmodi guess it has something to do with the proper h/v refresh rates?23:53
somerville32Maybe. I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to X23:54
bmodthe nvidia drivers (sysinfo window > nvidia setup window) usually does it right23:54
* somerville32 nods.23:54
bmodi'm tossing a coin: TwinView or Seperate X Screens?23:58
bmodargl now i have that scrolling with the nvidia driver as well23:59

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