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moquiststgraber: thx; I had started looking through the initramfs but got distracted into working on other things :p00:02
xordoes any one knor accessibility software for linux?00:19
xorknow?00:19
johnnythat's really generic00:19
LaserJockwhat kind of accessibility software?00:19
johnnyaccessibility is a HUGE topic00:19
xorok, but a''m not looking for gnome/kde features00:20
xori''m look for educacional application00:20
LaserJockfor teaching students who have accessibility problems?00:20
xoryes00:21
johnnydo you have an already existing app for an other OS that does what you want?00:21
xoryes, but none gpl00:22
xorhere in Brazil public schools MUSt run gpl software00:23
xorthat''s good, but not easy00:26
xori found some:http://larswiki.atrc.utoronto.ca/wiki/Software00:27
MagicFabhey01:48
MagicFabI am having trouble starting an LTSP client01:48
MagicFabIt get the X_SERVER=vesa config fine from lts.conf but the xorg.conf generated does not contain resolutions... so fails to start01:49
MagicFabany ideas how to go about this ?01:49
moquistMagicFab: is this gutsy?02:10
MagicFabgutsy it is02:26
moquistWe're having thin clients at one site (feisty edubuntu servers, netier TCs with 64MB RAM, LOTS and LOTS of HPLJ4-era printers) freeze hard whenever they try to print from OpenOffice. Anybody else seeing that?03:54
moquistI know Jim Kronebusch was looking into something that sounds very similar (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-devel/2007-September/002398.html), but I don't see a resolution to the troubles he was having.03:54
Tabinahi got a trouble with the application load and unload.. an error in update07:27
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johnny_the link to the local apps spec on the local apps wiki page is incorrect09:21
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ograRichEd, https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuVideoIntroduction12:34
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sbalneavogra: Ping, around for a few minutes?15:00
ograsbalneav, indeed15:01
ograalways for you :)15:01
ograi shouldnt have subscribed to ltsp-devel :)15:02
sbalneavHey, so, as you know, I've been busy.  Good news is: 3 of our core infrastructure machines are now ubuntu server...15:08
sbalneavbad news is: I'm not sure where we're at. :)15:09
sbalneavSo, can you gimme a 2 minute overview of what trees I should be syncing from, and I'll get my big fat butt in gear? :)15:09
ograhttps://launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream15:09
ograwe'll put all upstream trees under that15:10
ograhttps://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ has currently only the merged debian/ubuntu tree15:10
ograim waiting for agrant to sort out the ldm upstream tree as well15:10
ogra*vagrant15:10
ograwe'll have trunks for every app and branch off release branches if the merge is complete (read if warren committed and we have everythig stable)15:11
ograso fixes can go into the release branches and developemnt should take place in the trunk branches15:12
ograadditionally we'll need branches for the debina dirs that we merge for packaging15:12
sbalneavok15:15
ograi'll rol a pre release tarball as soon as we have a stable ldm source15:17
ogra*roll15:17
ograso we'll have the packaging in place etc :)15:18
LaserRockmorning ogra and sbalneav15:33
ograhey the Rock is here :)15:34
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LaserJockogra: got gcompris merged15:35
ograyeah, saw that, thanks a lot !15:36
LaserJockand got the .pot sent to carlos for Gutsy15:36
LaserJockso we'll see how it goes15:36
LaserJockI'm still not sure how they're gonna fix Gutsy15:36
airjumphello15:38
ograhmm, looks like vagrants ldm source is fine with some changes15:39
* ogra ponders to push it to LP15:40
LaserJockogra: wow, these youtube videos are really cool15:44
ograyeah15:46
ograi was pointed to the new ubuntu server campaign and they showed up in the list :)15:46
LaserJockI'm gonna write up a Fridge story for that15:46
ograelse i would never have found them15:46
LaserJockogra: got a theme question for you16:30
LaserJockogra: if we had a nautilus throbber (the little "I'm working" icon in the top right) would it be ok to install it in edubuntu-artwork?16:31
ograhmm, i would hav to look at the code not sure thats a themeable itsm16:32
LaserJockyou just drop the icons in to the icon folders16:32
LaserJock_MMA_ built one for Edubuntu16:33
LaserJockit's kinda cool16:33
LaserJockogra: you just drop the throbber in /usr/share/icons/gartoon/<size>/animations/16:34
ograah16:35
ograwell, indeed, then it shojld go into e-a16:35
LaserJockk16:36
LaserJockcool16:36
LaserJockhe's still perfecting the speed, etc.16:36
LaserJockbut I just tried it out and it's nice16:36
ograwell, there is still plenty of time until artwork freeze ;)16:37
LaserJockhehe, yes16:38
scrapbunnyi am thinking of switching to the 64 bit version of edubuntu 7.10 so i can increase to memory on my thin client server. any thoughts on this?19:23
ograwhy not just use a -server kernel19:25
ograand dont have the hassle with 64bit firefox and friends19:25
scrapbunnycould you point me to info on getting and setting up the kernel19:26
LaserJockscrapbunny: you can see what kernel you presently have (linux-image-<something>) and then look for the one with -server19:28
ograsudo apt-get install linux-image-server19:28
LaserJockactually yeah19:28
LaserJockogra: or apt-get install linux-server perhaps?19:29
LaserJockif you need l-r-m19:29
ograright19:29
Joris_ogra!19:33
ograhey19:33
ogra:)19:33
Joris_I think my update to gutsy bĀ°rked my tftp root :(19:33
scrapbunnythanks i will go check19:33
ogratftp ?19:33
Joris_yes19:34
Joris_(for ltsp)19:34
Joris_it changed locations, didn't it?19:34
ograbetween feisty and gutsy ? no19:34
Joris_from /opt to /var/lib/tftpboot ?19:34
ograno19:34
Joris_hmm19:35
ograit was always /var/lib/tftpboot for tftp19:35
Joris_strange19:35
Joris_tftp           dgram   udp     wait    root  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -v -v -v -s /opt19:35
Joris_that's not good, then19:35
Joris_(but it works)19:35
ograand /opt/ltsp/i386 (nfs) or /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img for the rootfs19:35
Joris_and where should the lts.conf reside?19:36
ograin the tftp root19:36
ograactually /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf19:36
Joris_in the root of the tftp root?19:37
Joris_ah19:37
ograbut sicne you pont ot /opt that would be /opt/ltsp/i386/lts.conf19:37
ogra*point to19:37
Joris_indeed19:37
Joris_my /var/lib/tftpboot is not functional - is there an easy way to regenerate it?19:38
ografix inetd.conf first19:38
Joris_I'm not sure what it's missing.. I can't access the system right now19:38
ogratftp           dgram   udp     wait    root  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot19:38
Joris_(can't boot a client)19:38
ograthat should be the line19:38
ograthen run ltsp-update-kernels19:39
ograthat should be all19:39
ogra-v -v -v idicates you once changed that manually for debugging19:39
Joris_yep19:39
Joris_but I don't recall changing it to /opt, just the verbose options19:40
Joris_I'm going to change it and hope things will work smoothly tomorrow ;)19:43
ograi'll be around from 11 on ...19:44
ograso if it fails feel free to hunt me donw19:44
effie_jayxogra,  hello :D, I meant to ask about an image request I did a few weeks ago19:49
ograeffie_jayx, intel has the image since last weeks monday19:50
ograthey should distribute it19:50
effie_jayxogra,  ok19:50
scrapbunnyhi i'm back. can i run sudo apt-get install linux-image-server from a client or should i run it on the server itself?20:03
gfxhello20:26
gfxanyone know of a way to add users to edubuntu for profile based logins on thin clients?20:27
gfxi can add a user20:27
gfxand then remove access to unwanted applications manually20:27
joebob777as7I put a new motherboard processor ram and video card in my aunt's system and it seems to be acting peculiarly. do i need to reinstall ubuntu or should it have updated itself automatically or do i have to rebuild kernel or something else?20:31
stgraberjoebob777as7: only thing that could be a problem is the video card, what was the manufacturer of the previous one and what's the one of the new one ?20:32
joebob777as7stgraber, both nvidia but last was agp and new is pci-e20:32
stgraberdriver should be the same (if that's gutsy I don't think we have nvidia and nvidia-new anymore, only nvidia)20:33
stgraberwhat kind of problem do you experience ?20:33
joebob777as7well she is saying that sometimes it will pretty much come to a halt and she'll go to shutdown and it won't do it and it's pretty slow at that point20:35
stgraberhmm, it would be interesting to have the list of running processus and amount of free ram at this point20:36
stgraberdo you know if there is a bigger HDD activity at this point (swapping) ?20:37
joebob777as7no but i'm kind of thinking the hard drive is going bad it makes a ton of noise but not bad noise and the utility marks it clean.20:39
gfxbut then having to do that for every new user is a pain in the $#%20:40
stgraberogra: italc 1.0.4 is out :)21:27
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