[00:02] stgraber: thx; I had started looking through the initramfs but got distracted into working on other things :p [00:19] does any one knor accessibility software for linux? [00:19] know? [00:19] that's really generic [00:19] what kind of accessibility software? [00:19] accessibility is a HUGE topic [00:20] ok, but a''m not looking for gnome/kde features [00:20] i''m look for educacional application [00:20] for teaching students who have accessibility problems? [00:21] yes [00:21] do you have an already existing app for an other OS that does what you want? [00:22] yes, but none gpl [00:23] here in Brazil public schools MUSt run gpl software [00:26] that''s good, but not easy [00:27] i found some:http://larswiki.atrc.utoronto.ca/wiki/Software [01:48] hey [01:48] I am having trouble starting an LTSP client [01:49] It get the X_SERVER=vesa config fine from lts.conf but the xorg.conf generated does not contain resolutions... so fails to start [01:49] any ideas how to go about this ? [02:10] MagicFab: is this gutsy? [02:26] gutsy it is [03:54] We're having thin clients at one site (feisty edubuntu servers, netier TCs with 64MB RAM, LOTS and LOTS of HPLJ4-era printers) freeze hard whenever they try to print from OpenOffice. Anybody else seeing that? [03:54] I know Jim Kronebusch was looking into something that sounds very similar (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-devel/2007-September/002398.html), but I don't see a resolution to the troubles he was having. [07:27] hi got a trouble with the application load and unload.. an error in update === LaserJock is now known as LaserRock [09:21] the link to the local apps spec on the local apps wiki page is incorrect === meduxa is now known as toscalix [12:34] RichEd, https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuVideoIntroduction === ogra1 is now known as ogra [15:00] ogra: Ping, around for a few minutes? [15:01] sbalneav, indeed [15:01] always for you :) [15:02] i shouldnt have subscribed to ltsp-devel :) [15:08] Hey, so, as you know, I've been busy. Good news is: 3 of our core infrastructure machines are now ubuntu server... [15:09] bad news is: I'm not sure where we're at. :) [15:09] So, can you gimme a 2 minute overview of what trees I should be syncing from, and I'll get my big fat butt in gear? :) [15:09] https://launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream [15:10] we'll put all upstream trees under that [15:10] https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ has currently only the merged debian/ubuntu tree [15:10] im waiting for agrant to sort out the ldm upstream tree as well [15:10] *vagrant [15:11] we'll have trunks for every app and branch off release branches if the merge is complete (read if warren committed and we have everythig stable) [15:12] so fixes can go into the release branches and developemnt should take place in the trunk branches [15:12] additionally we'll need branches for the debina dirs that we merge for packaging [15:15] ok [15:17] i'll rol a pre release tarball as soon as we have a stable ldm source [15:17] *roll [15:18] so we'll have the packaging in place etc :) [15:33] morning ogra and sbalneav [15:34] hey the Rock is here :) === LaserRock is now known as LaserJock [15:35] ogra: got gcompris merged [15:36] yeah, saw that, thanks a lot ! [15:36] and got the .pot sent to carlos for Gutsy [15:36] so we'll see how it goes [15:36] I'm still not sure how they're gonna fix Gutsy [15:38] hello [15:39] hmm, looks like vagrants ldm source is fine with some changes [15:40] * ogra ponders to push it to LP [15:44] ogra: wow, these youtube videos are really cool [15:46] yeah [15:46] i was pointed to the new ubuntu server campaign and they showed up in the list :) [15:46] I'm gonna write up a Fridge story for that [15:46] else i would never have found them [16:30] ogra: got a theme question for you [16:31] ogra: if we had a nautilus throbber (the little "I'm working" icon in the top right) would it be ok to install it in edubuntu-artwork? [16:32] hmm, i would hav to look at the code not sure thats a themeable itsm [16:32] you just drop the icons in to the icon folders [16:33] _MMA_ built one for Edubuntu [16:33] it's kinda cool [16:34] ogra: you just drop the throbber in /usr/share/icons/gartoon//animations/ [16:35] ah [16:35] well, indeed, then it shojld go into e-a [16:36] k [16:36] cool [16:36] he's still perfecting the speed, etc. [16:36] but I just tried it out and it's nice [16:37] well, there is still plenty of time until artwork freeze ;) [16:38] hehe, yes [19:23] i am thinking of switching to the 64 bit version of edubuntu 7.10 so i can increase to memory on my thin client server. any thoughts on this? [19:25] why not just use a -server kernel [19:25] and dont have the hassle with 64bit firefox and friends [19:26] could you point me to info on getting and setting up the kernel [19:28] scrapbunny: you can see what kernel you presently have (linux-image-) and then look for the one with -server [19:28] sudo apt-get install linux-image-server [19:28] actually yeah [19:29] ogra: or apt-get install linux-server perhaps? [19:29] if you need l-r-m [19:29] right [19:33] ogra! [19:33] hey [19:33] :) [19:33] I think my update to gutsy bĀ°rked my tftp root :( [19:33] thanks i will go check [19:33] tftp ? [19:34] yes [19:34] (for ltsp) [19:34] it changed locations, didn't it? [19:34] between feisty and gutsy ? no [19:34] from /opt to /var/lib/tftpboot ? [19:34] no [19:35] hmm [19:35] it was always /var/lib/tftpboot for tftp [19:35] strange [19:35] tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -v -v -v -s /opt [19:35] that's not good, then [19:35] (but it works) [19:35] and /opt/ltsp/i386 (nfs) or /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img for the rootfs [19:36] and where should the lts.conf reside? [19:36] in the tftp root [19:36] actually /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf [19:37] in the root of the tftp root? [19:37] ah [19:37] but sicne you pont ot /opt that would be /opt/ltsp/i386/lts.conf [19:37] *point to [19:37] indeed [19:38] my /var/lib/tftpboot is not functional - is there an easy way to regenerate it? [19:38] fix inetd.conf first [19:38] I'm not sure what it's missing.. I can't access the system right now [19:38] tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot [19:38] (can't boot a client) [19:38] that should be the line [19:39] then run ltsp-update-kernels [19:39] that should be all [19:39] -v -v -v idicates you once changed that manually for debugging [19:39] yep [19:40] but I don't recall changing it to /opt, just the verbose options [19:43] I'm going to change it and hope things will work smoothly tomorrow ;) [19:44] i'll be around from 11 on ... [19:44] so if it fails feel free to hunt me donw [19:49] ogra, hello :D, I meant to ask about an image request I did a few weeks ago [19:50] effie_jayx, intel has the image since last weeks monday [19:50] they should distribute it [19:50] ogra, ok [20:03] hi i'm back. can i run sudo apt-get install linux-image-server from a client or should i run it on the server itself? [20:26] hello [20:27] anyone know of a way to add users to edubuntu for profile based logins on thin clients? [20:27] i can add a user [20:27] and then remove access to unwanted applications manually [20:31] I put a new motherboard processor ram and video card in my aunt's system and it seems to be acting peculiarly. do i need to reinstall ubuntu or should it have updated itself automatically or do i have to rebuild kernel or something else? [20:32] joebob777as7: only thing that could be a problem is the video card, what was the manufacturer of the previous one and what's the one of the new one ? [20:32] stgraber, both nvidia but last was agp and new is pci-e [20:33] driver should be the same (if that's gutsy I don't think we have nvidia and nvidia-new anymore, only nvidia) [20:33] what kind of problem do you experience ? [20:35] well she is saying that sometimes it will pretty much come to a halt and she'll go to shutdown and it won't do it and it's pretty slow at that point [20:36] hmm, it would be interesting to have the list of running processus and amount of free ram at this point [20:37] do you know if there is a bigger HDD activity at this point (swapping) ? [20:39] no but i'm kind of thinking the hard drive is going bad it makes a ton of noise but not bad noise and the utility marks it clean. [20:40] but then having to do that for every new user is a pain in the $#% [21:27] ogra: italc 1.0.4 is out :) === LaserJock is now known as LaserRock