[00:02] <moquist> stgraber: thx; I had started looking through the initramfs but got distracted into working on other things :p
[00:19] <xor> does any one knor accessibility software for linux?
[00:19] <xor> know?
[00:19] <johnny> that's really generic
[00:19] <LaserJock> what kind of accessibility software?
[00:19] <johnny> accessibility is a HUGE topic
[00:20] <xor> ok, but a''m not looking for gnome/kde features
[00:20] <xor> i''m look for educacional application
[00:20] <LaserJock> for teaching students who have accessibility problems?
[00:21] <xor> yes
[00:21] <johnny> do you have an already existing app for an other OS that does what you want?
[00:22] <xor> yes, but none gpl
[00:23] <xor> here in Brazil public schools MUSt run gpl software
[00:26] <xor> that''s good, but not easy
[00:27] <xor> i found some:http://larswiki.atrc.utoronto.ca/wiki/Software
[01:48] <MagicFab> hey
[01:48] <MagicFab> I am having trouble starting an LTSP client
[01:49] <MagicFab> It get the X_SERVER=vesa config fine from lts.conf but the xorg.conf generated does not contain resolutions... so fails to start
[01:49] <MagicFab> any ideas how to go about this ?
[02:10] <moquist> MagicFab: is this gutsy?
[02:26] <MagicFab> gutsy it is
[03:54] <moquist> We're having thin clients at one site (feisty edubuntu servers, netier TCs with 64MB RAM, LOTS and LOTS of HPLJ4-era printers) freeze hard whenever they try to print from OpenOffice. Anybody else seeing that?
[03:54] <moquist> I know Jim Kronebusch was looking into something that sounds very similar (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-devel/2007-September/002398.html), but I don't see a resolution to the troubles he was having.
[07:27] <Tabina> hi got a trouble with the application load and unload.. an error in update
[09:21] <johnny_> the link to the local apps spec on the local apps wiki page is incorrect
[12:34] <ogra> RichEd, https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuVideoIntroduction
[15:00] <sbalneav> ogra: Ping, around for a few minutes?
[15:01] <ogra> sbalneav, indeed
[15:01] <ogra> always for you :)
[15:02] <ogra> i shouldnt have subscribed to ltsp-devel :)
[15:08] <sbalneav> Hey, so, as you know, I've been busy.  Good news is: 3 of our core infrastructure machines are now ubuntu server...
[15:09] <sbalneav> bad news is: I'm not sure where we're at. :)
[15:09] <sbalneav> So, can you gimme a 2 minute overview of what trees I should be syncing from, and I'll get my big fat butt in gear? :)
[15:09] <ogra> https://launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream
[15:10] <ogra> we'll put all upstream trees under that
[15:10] <ogra> https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ has currently only the merged debian/ubuntu tree
[15:10] <ogra> im waiting for agrant to sort out the ldm upstream tree as well
[15:10] <ogra> *vagrant
[15:11] <ogra> we'll have trunks for every app and branch off release branches if the merge is complete (read if warren committed and we have everythig stable)
[15:12] <ogra> so fixes can go into the release branches and developemnt should take place in the trunk branches
[15:12] <ogra> additionally we'll need branches for the debina dirs that we merge for packaging
[15:15] <sbalneav> ok
[15:17] <ogra> i'll rol a pre release tarball as soon as we have a stable ldm source
[15:17] <ogra> *roll
[15:18] <ogra> so we'll have the packaging in place etc :)
[15:33] <LaserRock> morning ogra and sbalneav
[15:34] <ogra> hey the Rock is here :)
[15:35] <LaserJock> ogra: got gcompris merged
[15:36] <ogra> yeah, saw that, thanks a lot !
[15:36] <LaserJock> and got the .pot sent to carlos for Gutsy
[15:36] <LaserJock> so we'll see how it goes
[15:36] <LaserJock> I'm still not sure how they're gonna fix Gutsy
[15:38] <airjump> hello
[15:39] <ogra> hmm, looks like vagrants ldm source is fine with some changes
[15:40]  * ogra ponders to push it to LP
[15:44] <LaserJock> ogra: wow, these youtube videos are really cool
[15:46] <ogra> yeah
[15:46] <ogra> i was pointed to the new ubuntu server campaign and they showed up in the list :)
[15:46] <LaserJock> I'm gonna write up a Fridge story for that
[15:46] <ogra> else i would never have found them
[16:30] <LaserJock> ogra: got a theme question for you
[16:31] <LaserJock> ogra: if we had a nautilus throbber (the little "I'm working" icon in the top right) would it be ok to install it in edubuntu-artwork?
[16:32] <ogra> hmm, i would hav to look at the code not sure thats a themeable itsm
[16:32] <LaserJock> you just drop the icons in to the icon folders
[16:33] <LaserJock> _MMA_ built one for Edubuntu
[16:33] <LaserJock> it's kinda cool
[16:34] <LaserJock> ogra: you just drop the throbber in /usr/share/icons/gartoon/<size>/animations/
[16:35] <ogra> ah
[16:35] <ogra> well, indeed, then it shojld go into e-a
[16:36] <LaserJock> k
[16:36] <LaserJock> cool
[16:36] <LaserJock> he's still perfecting the speed, etc.
[16:36] <LaserJock> but I just tried it out and it's nice
[16:37] <ogra> well, there is still plenty of time until artwork freeze ;)
[16:38] <LaserJock> hehe, yes
[19:23] <scrapbunny> i am thinking of switching to the 64 bit version of edubuntu 7.10 so i can increase to memory on my thin client server. any thoughts on this?
[19:25] <ogra> why not just use a -server kernel
[19:25] <ogra> and dont have the hassle with 64bit firefox and friends
[19:26] <scrapbunny> could you point me to info on getting and setting up the kernel
[19:28] <LaserJock> scrapbunny: you can see what kernel you presently have (linux-image-<something>) and then look for the one with -server
[19:28] <ogra> sudo apt-get install linux-image-server
[19:28] <LaserJock> actually yeah
[19:29] <LaserJock> ogra: or apt-get install linux-server perhaps?
[19:29] <LaserJock> if you need l-r-m
[19:29] <ogra> right
[19:33] <Joris_> ogra!
[19:33] <ogra> hey
[19:33] <ogra> :)
[19:33] <Joris_> I think my update to gutsy b°rked my tftp root :(
[19:33] <scrapbunny> thanks i will go check
[19:33] <ogra> tftp ?
[19:34] <Joris_> yes
[19:34] <Joris_> (for ltsp)
[19:34] <Joris_> it changed locations, didn't it?
[19:34] <ogra> between feisty and gutsy ? no
[19:34] <Joris_> from /opt to /var/lib/tftpboot ?
[19:34] <ogra> no
[19:35] <Joris_> hmm
[19:35] <ogra> it was always /var/lib/tftpboot for tftp
[19:35] <Joris_> strange
[19:35] <Joris_> tftp           dgram   udp     wait    root  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -v -v -v -s /opt
[19:35] <Joris_> that's not good, then
[19:35] <Joris_> (but it works)
[19:35] <ogra> and /opt/ltsp/i386 (nfs) or /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img for the rootfs
[19:36] <Joris_> and where should the lts.conf reside?
[19:36] <ogra> in the tftp root
[19:36] <ogra> actually /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
[19:37] <Joris_> in the root of the tftp root?
[19:37] <Joris_> ah
[19:37] <ogra> but sicne you pont ot /opt that would be /opt/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
[19:37] <ogra> *point to
[19:37] <Joris_> indeed
[19:38] <Joris_> my /var/lib/tftpboot is not functional - is there an easy way to regenerate it?
[19:38] <ogra> fix inetd.conf first
[19:38] <Joris_> I'm not sure what it's missing.. I can't access the system right now
[19:38] <ogra> tftp           dgram   udp     wait    root  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
[19:38] <Joris_> (can't boot a client)
[19:38] <ogra> that should be the line
[19:39] <ogra> then run ltsp-update-kernels
[19:39] <ogra> that should be all
[19:39] <ogra> -v -v -v idicates you once changed that manually for debugging
[19:39] <Joris_> yep
[19:40] <Joris_> but I don't recall changing it to /opt, just the verbose options
[19:43] <Joris_> I'm going to change it and hope things will work smoothly tomorrow ;)
[19:44] <ogra> i'll be around from 11 on ...
[19:44] <ogra> so if it fails feel free to hunt me donw
[19:49] <effie_jayx> ogra,  hello :D, I meant to ask about an image request I did a few weeks ago
[19:50] <ogra> effie_jayx, intel has the image since last weeks monday
[19:50] <ogra> they should distribute it
[19:50] <effie_jayx> ogra,  ok
[20:03] <scrapbunny> hi i'm back. can i run sudo apt-get install linux-image-server from a client or should i run it on the server itself?
[20:26] <gfx> hello
[20:27] <gfx> anyone know of a way to add users to edubuntu for profile based logins on thin clients?
[20:27] <gfx> i can add a user
[20:27] <gfx> and then remove access to unwanted applications manually
[20:31] <joebob777as7> I put a new motherboard processor ram and video card in my aunt's system and it seems to be acting peculiarly. do i need to reinstall ubuntu or should it have updated itself automatically or do i have to rebuild kernel or something else?
[20:32] <stgraber> joebob777as7: only thing that could be a problem is the video card, what was the manufacturer of the previous one and what's the one of the new one ?
[20:32] <joebob777as7> stgraber, both nvidia but last was agp and new is pci-e
[20:33] <stgraber> driver should be the same (if that's gutsy I don't think we have nvidia and nvidia-new anymore, only nvidia)
[20:33] <stgraber> what kind of problem do you experience ?
[20:35] <joebob777as7> well she is saying that sometimes it will pretty much come to a halt and she'll go to shutdown and it won't do it and it's pretty slow at that point
[20:36] <stgraber> hmm, it would be interesting to have the list of running processus and amount of free ram at this point
[20:37] <stgraber> do you know if there is a bigger HDD activity at this point (swapping) ?
[20:39] <joebob777as7> no but i'm kind of thinking the hard drive is going bad it makes a ton of noise but not bad noise and the utility marks it clean.
[20:40] <gfx> but then having to do that for every new user is a pain in the $#%
[21:27] <stgraber> ogra: italc 1.0.4 is out :)