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| dholbach | good morning | 08:03 |
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| StevenK | ToddBrandt: When you're around can you look at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mobile/2007-November/001355.html and let me know what you think? I can upload a fix for 0.9 (probably 0.9ubuntu1), or upload any version you want to Hardy. | 13:04 |
| ian_brasil | caramba, some heavy stuff about gnome mobile here http://www.murrayc.com/blog/permalink/2007/11/26/gnome-board-2007-candidates-the-bad/ | 14:06 |
| henrix | outch! | 14:09 |
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| lool | ian_brasil: I don't think Murray has sufficient access to attest the issues he raises concerning mobile | 16:58 |
| ian_brasil | lool: the failings so far have been issues of transparency and failing to define standards/components IMO and i don't see how any one person can be responsible for this when it is a company which has contributed most of the code.....and anyway calling someone psychotic is just one step removed from calling them Hitler and a good candidate for invoking Godwin's law if you ask me | 17:13 |
| lool | ian_brasil: Right, I doubt Jeff is to blame on the transparency of the mobile stuff | 17:19 |
| guardian | the company being ? nokia ? | 17:22 |
| ian_brasil | guardian: right, and even this I believe is not intentional..just a large company finding its way into open source and getting some things wrong and learning from its mistakes | 17:26 |
| lool | I think things take time in large companies, and they do things differently, such as press releases :) | 17:26 |
| ToddBrandt | StevenK: I'll look at it today, sorry for the delay | 17:53 |
| raji | asac: Are you there? | 18:32 |
| asac | raji: not anymore :) .. will be back later most likely | 18:36 |
| raji | asac: I posing a question about nm-applet, please answer it when you have time, what is the purpose of the 'Create new wireless network'. I am expecting that a new adhoc network will be created , but that feature does not work on our moblin environment, I meant no new network is created. | 18:39 |
| agoliveira | ian_brasil: Nasty stuff about Jeff Waugh | 18:46 |
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| davidm | HappyCamp, HappyCamp_ubuntu , what is your name? | 22:04 |
| HappyCamp | davidm, John Villalovos | 22:08 |
| HappyCamp | davidm, https://launchpad.net/~happycamp | 22:09 |
| davidm | Thanks John | 22:09 |
| davidm | Your IRC client was defeating me, it's says your "Somebody" or "New Now Know How" :-) | 22:10 |
| HappyCamp_ubuntu | davidm: Oh, I should probably fix that. | 22:10 |
| davidm | I use that a lot to track who I'm talking with until I memorize the NICK which sometimes takes me a bit... Too many nicks too few brain cells... ;-) | 22:12 |
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| robr | amitk / davidm : ping | 23:33 |
| StevenK | ToddBrandt: I'm around now if you want to bug me to do something. | 23:39 |
| davidm | robr, pong | 23:41 |
| robr | davidm: paul p tells me of a disconnect with what you're asking for on the Gfx drivers and what requests i received from your engineers | 23:42 |
| davidm | Not sure yet, apparently Amit pushed back on something but Paul and Don don't know why he pushed back ie: is is broken or is it just not the "newest" | 23:43 |
| davidm | If it's broken there is no real issue, if it's not "newest" it might be | 23:43 |
| robr | davidm: you were copied on the email | 23:43 |
| robr | i will forward it to you again | 23:43 |
| davidm | Thanks I must have missed it or not understood that we were raising a flag. | 23:44 |
| davidm | I'll look for it and read carefully | 23:44 |
| robr | i got the same request on libexa from bryce and others supporting X to use the version of libexa that comes with the version in either gutsy or hardy | 23:45 |
| robr | davidm: the version of libexa in gutsy is 2.1 and in hardy it's 2.2 , PSB Gfx drivers require 2.2 plus some changes | 23:46 |
| davidm | I know that we need hardy support so that is 2.2 and Paul wants hardy support | 23:46 |
| robr | davidm: the problem with drm.ko is the gfx driver requires the upstream version from the xorg project not the downstream 2.6.24 kernel -- it basically means you have to maintain two incompatible versions of drm.ko | 23:47 |
| robr | davidm: amit's request is actually rather reasonable | 23:48 |
| davidm | OK, perhaps I need to read the email completely to understand the issue. | 23:48 |
| davidm | I would actually expect that from Amit | 23:49 |
| davidm | robr I'm reading now. | 23:52 |
| davidm | robr are you registered here on FreeNode? | 23:54 |
| robr | this alias is | 23:55 |
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