=== robr_ is now known as robr === cprov-out is now known as cprov-zZz === sabotage is now known as sabotage_afk === Jayc__ is now known as Jayc_ === Inuka__ is now known as Inuka === Jayc__ is now known as Jayc_ === robr_ is now known as robr [08:03] good morning === alek_desktop_ is now known as alek_desktop === cprov-zZz is now known as cprov === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === doko_ is now known as doko [13:04] ToddBrandt: When you're around can you look at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mobile/2007-November/001355.html and let me know what you think? I can upload a fix for 0.9 (probably 0.9ubuntu1), or upload any version you want to Hardy. [14:06] caramba, some heavy stuff about gnome mobile here http://www.murrayc.com/blog/permalink/2007/11/26/gnome-board-2007-candidates-the-bad/ [14:09] outch! === cprov is now known as cprov-lunch === asac_ is now known as asac === cprov-lunch is now known as cprov [16:58] ian_brasil: I don't think Murray has sufficient access to attest the issues he raises concerning mobile [17:13] lool: the failings so far have been issues of transparency and failing to define standards/components IMO and i don't see how any one person can be responsible for this when it is a company which has contributed most of the code.....and anyway calling someone psychotic is just one step removed from calling them Hitler and a good candidate for invoking Godwin's law if you ask me [17:19] ian_brasil: Right, I doubt Jeff is to blame on the transparency of the mobile stuff [17:22] the company being ? nokia ? [17:26] guardian: right, and even this I believe is not intentional..just a large company finding its way into open source and getting some things wrong and learning from its mistakes [17:26] I think things take time in large companies, and they do things differently, such as press releases :) [17:53] StevenK: I'll look at it today, sorry for the delay [18:32] asac: Are you there? [18:36] raji: not anymore :) .. will be back later most likely [18:39] asac: I posing a question about nm-applet, please answer it when you have time, what is the purpose of the 'Create new wireless network'. I am expecting that a new adhoc network will be created , but that feature does not work on our moblin environment, I meant no new network is created. [18:46] ian_brasil: Nasty stuff about Jeff Waugh === Inuka__ is now known as Inuka === cprov is now known as cprov-out [22:04] HappyCamp, HappyCamp_ubuntu , what is your name? [22:08] davidm, John Villalovos [22:09] davidm, https://launchpad.net/~happycamp [22:09] Thanks John [22:10] Your IRC client was defeating me, it's says your "Somebody" or "New Now Know How" :-) [22:10] davidm: Oh, I should probably fix that. [22:12] I use that a lot to track who I'm talking with until I memorize the NICK which sometimes takes me a bit... Too many nicks too few brain cells... ;-) === asac__ is now known as asac === asac_ is now known as asac [23:33] amitk / davidm : ping [23:39] ToddBrandt: I'm around now if you want to bug me to do something. [23:41] robr, pong [23:42] davidm: paul p tells me of a disconnect with what you're asking for on the Gfx drivers and what requests i received from your engineers [23:43] Not sure yet, apparently Amit pushed back on something but Paul and Don don't know why he pushed back ie: is is broken or is it just not the "newest" [23:43] If it's broken there is no real issue, if it's not "newest" it might be [23:43] davidm: you were copied on the email [23:43] i will forward it to you again [23:44] Thanks I must have missed it or not understood that we were raising a flag. [23:44] I'll look for it and read carefully [23:45] i got the same request on libexa from bryce and others supporting X to use the version of libexa that comes with the version in either gutsy or hardy [23:46] davidm: the version of libexa in gutsy is 2.1 and in hardy it's 2.2 , PSB Gfx drivers require 2.2 plus some changes [23:46] I know that we need hardy support so that is 2.2 and Paul wants hardy support [23:47] davidm: the problem with drm.ko is the gfx driver requires the upstream version from the xorg project not the downstream 2.6.24 kernel -- it basically means you have to maintain two incompatible versions of drm.ko [23:48] davidm: amit's request is actually rather reasonable [23:48] OK, perhaps I need to read the email completely to understand the issue. [23:49] I would actually expect that from Amit [23:52] robr I'm reading now. [23:54] robr are you registered here on FreeNode? [23:55] this alias is