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tormodgood night00:02
desertcGreetings -- quick question -- what is happening when I change the gstreamer video plugin settings from Autodetect to "X Window System (No Xv)" ?02:29
desertcThe Autodetect is problematic for me, and I am wondering what is going on behind the scenes when I select that option, instead of X Window System.02:30
desertcPerhaps it is using Xv ?02:31
pwnguinhighly likely02:47
ubotuNew bug: #165326 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[Gutsy][kubuntu][ati] horizontally fuzzy screen with a ATI Technologies Inc RS200/RS200M AGP Bridge [IGP 340M] (rev 02)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16532603:00
ubotuNew bug: #149710 in displayconfig-gtk (main) "You need to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22.13-generic" but no available on update-manager (dup-of: 149661)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14971010:31
ubotuNew bug: #145279 in xserver-xorg-video-openchrome (universe) "[gutsy] Unmet dependencies while installing xserver-xorg-video-openchrome" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14527910:36
ScislaCmorningall15:37
ScislaCwith a space even ;)15:37
ScislaCokay, so I'm going to try building that AtomBios branch of -ati per tormod's request yesterday... are ./configure errors when running autogen to be expected?17:22
ScislaCit looks like it's taking issue when doing the Checks for extensions (line 20282 is where it dies)17:24
bryceI don't know much about that branch, but in general there should not be configure errors17:44
ScislaChmmm17:44
ScislaCbryce: is it possible that it relates to what my xserver is currently running (in terms of extensions it has or doesn't have enabled based on what the driver is capable of)? It seems like radeonhd can't do much, so I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.17:45
ScislaCit's basically just barfing on the xinerama stuff17:45
bryceyes, configure does depend on what things you have installed17:51
brycegenerally when making ubuntu packages we build them in a pbuilder or chroot environment 17:51
ScislaCbryce: I think I should learn more about chroot... I've only ever used it when rescuing a system. But it makes sense for me to try and build in the same fashion that you guys do.18:00
brycethere's a link with paint-by-numbers directions... lemme dig it up for you18:16
bryceyeah here we go:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto18:18
brycebasically just the "First Steps" and "Rebuilding a package" should be sufficient18:18
bryceeverything after those two sections is advanced tips and tricks18:19
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ubotuNew bug: #149924 in mesa (main) "xgl crash" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14992419:41
ubotuNew bug: #145482 in mesa (main) "[savage] X crashed when running Mathematica 6.0 remotely" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14548220:31
Scisla1guess who's rockin -ati with a mobility X1400 :D21:01
Scisla1bryce: woohoo!21:01
Scisla1doh, evil nick... brb21:02
ScislaCbetter...21:02
bryce\o/  -ati goodness21:03
ScislaCoh yeah!21:04
tjaaltonnice :)21:07
ScislaCso, is there a need for me to fill in a modules section in my xorg.conf? or is that all autodetected and used if applicable now?21:08
ScislaCbrb21:10
tjaaltonbryce: btw, we discussed hal/input-hotplug configuration earlier today21:11
bryceah great, I'll review backlog21:12
tjaaltonand he had an idea how to make hal configuration; in a runtime script that gathers the needed information from console-setup on ubuntu and "something else" on debian21:12
tjaaltonit was on #ubuntu-installer21:12
tjaaltonhttp://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/11/27/%23ubuntu-installer.html21:13
tjaaltonso, there's no need to generate an fdi file21:13
tjaaltonjust let hal do it on the fly21:14
bryceah thanks for the link21:14
tjaaltonnot the file but configuration21:14
bryceyeah I've got a blueprint task to work on console-setup a bit21:15
ScislaCwell... I guess I was a little too optimistic about getting my blingy desktop back ;)21:18
ubotuNew bug: #172427 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Uses external DVI port as main screen on iMac G5 rev C - ATI X600" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17242721:46
ScislaCtormod: per your request from yesterday, I tried out the AtomBios -ati driver... works fine on my Mobility X140022:25
tormodScislaC: cool, if you have any issues I am sure they would appreciate your feedback on #radeon22:55
ScislaCtormod: other than lacking 3d & compositing support (at least for the r500s)... it's shaping up nicely :)22:56
tormodScislaC: I think they said 3D for r500 should be doable soon22:57
tormodcause it has the same 3d core as r300 IIRC22:58
ScislaCtormod: ahhhh very nice :)22:58
ScislaCmy desktop with an r300 will be happy then too ;)22:58
tormodit's already happy now, right?23:00
ScislaCtormod: the 3d support for my r300?23:00
tormodyes23:01
ScislaCyeah, my r300 is pretty happy (I'm just looking forward to any minor improvements)23:01
ScislaCI had to go back to Gutsy's xorg for the time being. :(  I'll try hardy's again when I can get better support for my card.23:56

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